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tretlehmmmmm...... how do you change the colour themes of the themes which have them greyed out?00:39
tretleanyone know where I can get a borderless glossy gtk border?04:34
tretleif that makes sense to anyone04:35
robstahi12:15
robstahi thorwil13:01
thorwilhi robsta13:01
robstathorwil: maybe some day there will be an inkscape-based svg rendering library ...13:03
thorwilodd there isn't already13:04
robstathey got cairo support not too long ago13:05
thorwilif you though you knew all there was to drawing perspectives, check http://www.termespheres.com/perspective.html :)13:29
robstathorwil: should not be too hard turning their "inkview" program into a library though :)13:48
dilomohi16:07
dilomowhat do you think of the new top notebook (lower left):16:09
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1228925308.png16:09
dilomoI can't make the top part look 3D enough without using shadows on the sides of the active tab which I don't want to use because my light direction comes from the top16:20
dilomoAny ideas how can I do it16:21
thorwildilomo: hi! do you know what ambient occlusion is?16:23
dilomoyes, at least I think I know16:23
dilomothi is when light bounces between objects16:24
thorwildilomo: in short, if you assume a slightly more complex lighting situation, subtle shadows on the sides are ok16:24
dilomohmm ok I will try it out16:25
thorwilthis picture shows quite nicely what ambient occlusion does: http://www.antropus.com/private/custom_portfolio/characters/oldlady/ambient001.jpg16:26
thorwilnote the shadows in the corners. that's what you want to have a little bit of16:26
dilomoyeah I got the idea. Nice grandmom btw ;)16:27
dilomothorwil: do you think that the AO should affect the whole tab (should the tab drop shadow on the area above the inactive tabs and should this shadow be darker)?16:36
thorwildilomo: try it. there's realism and then there's whatever looks good :)16:37
dilomook :) here's the shadow casted on the inactive tbas only:16:40
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1228927204.png16:40
dilomothe other is comin in several minutes16:40
thorwildilomo: it's nicely subtle on the top tabs, but too stretched out on sideway tabs16:43
dilomothe sideways are still from the old version16:44
dilomodon't look at them yet16:44
* thorwil was looking at the entirely wrong thing16:47
dilomohers the version with more depth as suggested but it won't happen because when it is the last tab the shadow dropped is irregular:16:49
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1228927695.png16:49
thorwilgood morning nand! how's things?16:52
nandgood evening! well, so far so good16:53
nandlots of interesting stuff16:53
nanddid you see summit.ubuntu.com ?16:53
thorwilnand: only on monday16:53
thorwilafter some very low volume audio streaming, i decided to wait for videos :)17:03
* dilomo going to take a shower18:02
knomehello MadsRH19:33
MadsRHhi knome :-)19:34
dilomothorwil: here's update:20:29
dilomohttp://www.piccdrop.com/images/1228940881.png20:29
dilomoDo you think that the top line should be darker? I made it to make the inactive tabs more contrasting to the content and with ethced in effect20:30
thorwildilomo: you mean the top line of inactive tabs? no, looks fine tome20:31
dilomono the line underneath20:34
dilomoyou can see its darker then the rest of the "walls"20:35
thorwildilomo: hmm, if i concentarte on it, it seems to work against the 3d effect. it kinda drags the page down20:38
dilomoI think this too20:40
dilomobut helps to consolidate the inactive tabs with the content20:40
dilomoI will try different options20:45
dilomobtw i have to run bye20:46
thorwilcya20:47
IkimashoZhttp://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/16375/21:34
IkimashoZ(see comments)21:34
IkimashoZI'm also interested in helping more generally speaking.  I like making icons.21:42

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