| RAOF | phix: You'll want to file a bug, attaching the output of alsa-info.sh (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems) and a pulseaudio log; you can get that by killing the current daemon with "pulseaudio -k" and starting a new one with "pulseaudio -vvv 2>&1 > pulseaudio-debug-log" | 00:00 |
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| Keybuk | ugh | 00:00 |
| Keybuk | wpa supplicant is worse | 00:00 |
| phix | ok | 00:00 |
| pochu | kees: btw, in case you hadn't seen it: http://www.coresecurity.com/content/vinagre-format-string | 00:01 |
| kees | pochu: ah, I hadn't. thanks! | 00:01 |
| kees | pochu: though, strangely, still no CVE | 00:02 |
| RAOF | phix: As a work around you can probably edit /etc/pulse/default.pa and defining a static alsa sink using hw:0,3 - the comments should make it obvious how to do this. | 00:04 |
| pochu | kees: I think upstream confused that with a cve :) | 00:05 |
| pochu | kees: so no idea if there's one... | 00:05 |
| phix | RAOF: yes I tried that with no success, I will try again :\ | 00:06 |
| phix | RAOF: VLC doesn't play anythin, I can't use totem as it crashes when I use ATI properitary drivers | 00:07 |
| kees | pochu: s'okay | 00:07 |
| phix | why am I finding all of the bugs for? :) | 00:07 |
| Riddell | MacSlow: http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/notifier.py | 00:07 |
| Riddell | http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/notifier.notifyrc | 00:08 |
| Riddell | that does into /usr/share/apps/kde4/notifier/ | 00:08 |
| kees | pitti, slangasek: uhm, okay, where is libhttp-response-encoding-perl ? I don't see a build and I don't see it in NEW... | 00:35 |
| slangasek | um... context? | 00:36 |
| slangasek | was this the sync you were waiting for a while ago? | 00:36 |
| kees | slangasek: it's related, yes | 00:38 |
| kees | slangasek: but it should have already been pulled in. | 00:38 |
| slangasek | hmm | 00:38 |
| kees | (it's a build-dep for the thing I was waiting on) | 00:38 |
| * Hobbsee wonders if that's a ppa bug, coming back to bite us | 00:38 | |
| slangasek | kees: ok; looking | 00:39 |
| Hobbsee | seeing as LP doesn't seem to know about a source. | 00:39 |
| kees | slangasek: cool. mostly I just don't know where it might be hiding. | 00:39 |
| kees | Hobbsee: it seems to know it exists, but without any files. | 00:39 |
| Hobbsee | kees: that's why I suspect it's the ppa bug | 00:40 |
| kees | aaah | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | kees: ppas were creating those pages for any new source that was uploaded to a ppa, as a package in ubuntu | 00:40 |
| Hobbsee | but never had sources attached to them, as the sources weren't actually in ubuntu. | 00:41 |
| kees | Hobbsee: yucky. this package _should_ exist in Ubuntu, but ... I don't know where. It would have been NEW on Nov 28. | 00:41 |
| kees | (assuming a debian-sync was run then) | 00:41 |
| Hobbsee | while they fixed the bug, i don't think they ever removed the pages that shouldn't ahve been generated. | 00:41 |
| Hobbsee | i presume slangasek will try to resync it | 00:42 |
| slangasek | yes, currently trying | 00:42 |
| slangasek | since I didn't do archive admin duties yesterday anyway :) | 00:42 |
| pwnguin | feisty's dead right? | 00:48 |
| nhandler_ | Yes pwnguin | 00:48 |
| pwnguin | sigh, users... | 00:48 |
| nhandler_ | It has reached its End of Life | 00:48 |
| pwnguin | heh | 00:49 |
| pwnguin | i was just thinking, if they sit on this for much longer | 00:49 |
| pwnguin | there wont be a good upgrade plan | 00:49 |
| tseliot | Riddell: we need to talk. Celeste knows why | 01:27 |
| Riddell | tseliot: that sounds worrying :) | 01:34 |
| Riddell | I'm in the desktop room | 01:34 |
| slangasek | doko: is gcc-spu meant to be in main instead of universe? (newlib dep-wait on powerpc) | 01:35 |
| slangasek | kees: ^^ newlib is the package going a little funny during the autosync | 01:35 |
| slangasek | so I'm following through on that, maybe it fixes us | 01:35 |
| ScottK | slangasek: If you've still got your archive-admin hat on, I'd appreciate it if you'd also sync mlt++ (Bug 306257) | 01:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 306257 in mlt++ "Please sync mlt++ 0.3.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306257 | 01:37 |
| StevenK | I think mlt is still in NEW | 01:37 |
| doko | sladen: yes please | 01:37 |
| slangasek | StevenK: mlt didn't just FTBFS on all archs? That's where it was last I'd looked | 01:37 |
| StevenK | It got given back on lpia | 01:38 |
| slangasek | and it succeeded? | 01:38 |
| tseliot | Riddell: so am I, I hadn't noticed. No, it's nothing to worry about | 01:38 |
| slangasek | doko: fixed | 01:39 |
| Riddell | oh aye, there you are | 01:40 |
| slangasek | kees: bah, have to wait for a publishing run to be sure I know what's going on there | 01:40 |
| StevenK | slangasek: I think it should be given-back everywhere, since it was Build-Depends things | 01:40 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: Did you attach the pulseaudio jaunty debdiff to bug 202089? | 01:41 |
| ScottK | mlt built on i386 and amd64 | 01:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 202089 in pulseaudio "Pulseaudio is blocking normal sound after resume" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/202089 | 01:41 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: no, I can do that now (it's also in my ppa) | 01:41 |
| slangasek | StevenK, ScottK: ah, ok | 01:41 |
| ScottK | StevenK: mlt is out of New and built at least on amd64 and ii386 | 01:41 |
| TheMuso | crimsun: No need, I'll fetch from your PPA. | 01:41 |
| crimsun | TheMuso: ok. | 01:41 |
| slangasek | thanks, I'll take mlt off my to-be-followed-up list :) | 01:41 |
| * ScottK knew he'd done a test build somehow | 01:41 | |
| kees | slangasek: cool, I'm not in a rush, just deeply curious. thanks for digging. did you see doko's mis-tab? | 01:42 |
| kees | slangasek: oh, you did, I can't read | 01:42 |
| slangasek | :-) | 01:42 |
| StevenK | I was ignoring mlt since it hadn't built everywhere | 01:42 |
| doko | oops | 01:42 |
| slangasek | ScottK: looking now, but there are some other requests ahead of that one in the queue so it'll be a few minutes to churn through them | 01:47 |
| slangasek | ScottK: doh, out of time and not there yet, will pick it up after heading back to the hotel | 02:01 |
| candrews | I'm trying to convince XBMC to use dynamic linking instead of including all the source in their own tree and compiling everything in. Can anyone point me to a policy of Ubuntu, Debian, or another distro that demonstrated why dynamic linking is important? | 02:23 |
| jdong | candrews: does XBMC use some ffmpeg type stack? | 02:23 |
| candrews | they do, but they also include python, faad, pulseaudio, mplayer, and a whole lot more :-) | 02:24 |
| candrews | I totally understand ffmpeg being included, that situation is nuts. | 02:24 |
| jdong | yeah I was going to point out that they probably have a reason to do this with ABI-unstable multimedia stack | 02:24 |
| jdong | ffmpeg and faad I'd put on that list. mplayer possibly. | 02:24 |
| RAOF | s/ABI/API/ :( | 02:24 |
| jdong | but no excuse for Python or pulseaudio | 02:25 |
| jdong | RAOF: yeah, it's both :D | 02:25 |
| ScottK | candrews: http://people.redhat.com/drepper/no_static_linking.html | 02:25 |
| candrews | Here's the conversation if anyone is interested: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=252592 | 02:25 |
| candrews | It's driving me nuts - if I was a distro (like Ubuntu) I would never accept such a package... | 02:26 |
| ScottK | With PIE enabled would it even run? | 02:27 |
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| jdong | only on i386 IIRC | 02:27 |
| candrews | sdl, mad, sqlite, hal, glew, boost, libjpeg, libpng are also statically included | 02:28 |
| candrews | there's way more too - it's like it's own distro | 02:28 |
| jdong | ok we'd absolutely not accept that. | 02:28 |
| jdong | it is basically its own distro. | 02:28 |
| jdong | but then again, I don't feel you should use distribution policies as a bullying tactic for changing the project... | 02:28 |
| jdong | that's a decision for the project to make | 02:28 |
| jdong | perhaps for their purpose they'd rather have a no-dependencies bundled distribution | 02:29 |
| candrews | What do you think though? If you were them and all... | 02:30 |
| jdong | well... if I were them I'd have two separate distributions. | 02:34 |
| jdong | I understand their motivation for an all-in-one build | 02:35 |
| jdong | but at the same time I understand why that's a horrible nightmare for distributions. | 02:35 |
| jdong | But, if I were them, I would be annoyed as hell if every 2 days someone came asking for the libraries to be de-bundled. | 02:35 |
| phix | RAOF: I finally got HDMI set as default auto device :D but it should of done that by default as it was the only device there. | 02:35 |
| phix | auto = audio | 02:36 |
| jdong | in my opinion the correct thing to do here is for the packaging community to debundle the libraries themselves for the reasonable libraries to debundle | 02:36 |
| RAOF | phix: Right. Which is why you should file a bug to document (a) your set up (b) what was wrong, and (c) how you fixed it, so we can possibly make it Just Work. :) | 02:36 |
| jdong | I'd probably leave mplayer and ffmpeg bundled because those have very version-specific bugs, quirks, and APIs and I'd rather not be introducing extra bugs by mutant hybrid compiles of their code :) | 02:37 |
| phix | RAOF: I will try :) but I am no expert in that area | 02:37 |
| RAOF | jdong: And then provide patches to the project, yes. | 02:37 |
| jdong | RAOF: right I was getting to that. Honest :) | 02:37 |
| phix | RAOF: What is your affilation with the ubuntu project if you don't mind me asking? | 02:37 |
| RAOF | phix: I'm a MOTU. | 02:37 |
| jdong | I was going to say that with time upstream will probably appreciate the work you're doing and you can happily merge your efforts as an integral part of upstream. | 02:37 |
| jdong | It's always good to do something productive/constructive instead of standing there whining, in the open source world. | 02:37 |
| phix | RAOF: I am not familiar with that acronym | 02:38 |
| jdong | phix: it means he's a scapegoat for not-very-maintained packages having bugs. | 02:38 |
| jdong | (joking) | 02:38 |
| candrews | jdong - indeed! But, I'm not that familiar with C, especially not on the sheer scale and complexity of that project... and their build system is very large and frankly scares me. | 02:39 |
| phix | candrews: heh, what is this? | 02:40 |
| jdong | candrews: the developers probably feel the same way about debundling. | 02:40 |
| jdong | candrews: hence why I suggested it's probably not productive to whine at upstream to debundle | 02:40 |
| candrews | phix xbmc | 02:40 |
| phix | I would like to contribute to the Ubuntu project, what can I do? :) | 02:40 |
| phix | candrews: no idea what that is :) | 02:40 |
| jdong | phix: you can start by doing my decision theory homework... | 02:40 |
| candrews | www.xbmc.org | 02:40 |
| phix | jdong: heh | 02:41 |
| * candrews cringes, and is quite glad he's out of college. | 02:41 | |
| phix | ditto | 02:41 |
| phix | RAOF: Nice, a fellow Aussie | 02:42 |
| mnabil_ | guys, i want to customize the live cd , i wanna change the kernel on it , any idea ? | 03:48 |
| mnabil_ | guys really i got sick from the ubuntu livecd customization how to's all failed with me, always the live cd drops the initramfs shell | 03:50 |
| MiladKhajavi | how can I create a repository with a pool directory? | 04:35 |
| cody-somerville | MiladKhajavi, reprepro | 04:47 |
| MiladKhajavi | cody-somerville: thank a lot | 04:50 |
| LaserJock | any gnome-app-install gurus happen to be around? | 05:16 |
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| wgrant | doko: hppa should be on the main FTBFS list in about 15 minutes, I guess. LP is slow. | 08:25 |
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| AtomicSpark | What is this?! | 08:52 |
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| catmando | hey all | 11:40 |
| catmando | i think i've found a rather large bug that's somehow slipped thorugh the cracks | 11:40 |
| catmando | the 8.10 alternate cd never installs a bootloader | 11:40 |
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| Sockan | hello | 13:07 |
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| NCommander | bdmurray, ping | 14:12 |
| lionel | Ah NCommander :) | 14:14 |
| NCommander | morning lionel | 14:15 |
| lionel | Would you mind to approve this backport https://bugs..launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/303265 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303265 in hardy-backports "please backport lightning-extension-locales from intrepid to hardy" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:15 |
| lionel | it would unbreak hardy-backports for lightning users :) | 14:15 |
| NCommander | sure, I'll ack it | 14:16 |
| NCommander | As a side note | 14:16 |
| NCommander | Don't used confirmed in backport trackers | 14:16 |
| NCommander | That's a good wayt o make sure your bug isnt' seen :-) | 14:17 |
| lionel | rah, sorry. Second time I've done it :( | 14:17 |
| NCommander | Let me just test build this | 14:17 |
| lionel | NCommander: that beeing said, you use "In progress" when you approved it and waiting for backport for archive admin | 14:18 |
| NCommander | YEah | 14:18 |
| NCommander | DOn't ask, it really doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either | 14:18 |
| lionel | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports -> this say to put as "Confirmed" when built and tested... | 14:19 |
| NCommander | A backporters is supposed to do it | 14:20 |
| NCommander | s/s//g | 14:20 |
| NCommander | test building now | 14:20 |
| lionel | hum... that's not what I have observed in backports for some years, I think we should clarify this | 14:21 |
| lionel | (but that's not the topic today) | 14:21 |
| NCommander | Anyway, once it test builds, I'll ack it | 14:21 |
| Laney | I thought anyone could confirm, but only a backporter could approve it | 14:33 |
| lionel | <NCommander> Anyway, once it test builds, I'll ack it | 15:16 |
| lionel | I'm a bit surprised by the fact that you can not a MOTU trust but somebody ack the lightning backport without even checking rdepends... | 15:16 |
| lionel | +trust | 15:16 |
| maxb | <NCommander> Don't used confirmed in backport trackers <--- but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports says you should! | 15:21 |
| NCommander | I fail :-P | 15:21 |
| jdong | interesting that lightning backport caused so much trouble. | 15:41 |
| jdong | it would seem like from bug 220166 that it received a good deal of testing. | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 220166 in lightning-sunbird "New upstream version available (v0.8)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220166 | 15:41 |
| jdong | I guess nobody hit all the rdepends. | 15:41 |
| jdong | I am brainstorming on a prevu QA suite for backporting that tests installability, upgradability of a requested package and all its rdepends | 15:42 |
| lionel | jdong: if nobody use locales, it's not catched | 15:42 |
| lionel | jdong: my "pb" is that I opened the bug two weeks ago and we can not get this fixed | 15:43 |
| lionel | (more than things get broken, it's the game with backport) | 15:43 |
| jdong | NCommander: anything holding us back in your opinion on approving said backport? | 15:47 |
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| tclineks | as far as i can tell io.py that is installed by python-stats breaks lxml.etree.parse | 16:31 |
| tclineks | makes it segfault | 16:31 |
| ruthgard | Greetings what is the esiest way to create a deb file from a binary? | 16:38 |
| jdong | from a binary? | 16:38 |
| ruthgard | I have a tomcat webapp that I want to make deb file from, I want it to depend on apache tomcat and to put a file in the conf/Catalina/localhost folder for the tomcat configuration. | 16:39 |
| ruthgard | the webapp is a .war file | 16:39 |
| jdong | Well the same way you make a deb from a source package | 16:39 |
| jdong | only you won't have a "build" target but only an install target | 16:40 |
| ruthgard | can you recomend any guide for creating a deb? | 16:41 |
| maxb | I think it's usually a mistake to look for "guides" that teach you to do a single operation without understanding it | 16:42 |
| maxb | Especially because people very seldom write them! | 16:43 |
| ruthgard | you are correct | 16:43 |
| maxb | Unfortunately I'm not immediately aware of the right doc to recommend for starting to learn deb packaging | 16:44 |
| maxb | It's something I've absorbed over time | 16:44 |
| ruthgard | I found an article about how to create a deb for debian, is there any difference with debian and ubuntu debs? | 16:45 |
| ruthgard | or are they the same? | 16:45 |
| ruthgard | I read something about creating a file called debian | 16:45 |
| maxb | very little, in general. In fact, very many Ubuntu packages are built from the Debian source, unmodified | 16:45 |
| ruthgard | sorry I mean directory | 16:45 |
| ruthgard | and in that file create controlfiles for how the deb should be assembled | 16:46 |
| maxb | In this case, the "debian" directory refers to the packaging system, rather than the distribution - i.e. yes, it's "debian" for ubuntu packages too | 16:46 |
| maxb | Oh, one key thing to know is that many of the details of the format of debian packages are specified in the "Debian Policy Manual" - despite the name, it contains a *lot* of material on packaging too | 16:47 |
| tormod | ruthgard: you want this: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/336 | 16:49 |
| pitti | Good morning | 16:51 |
| pitti | kees: was the libhttp-response-encoding-pel issue resolved? | 16:52 |
| NCommander | StevenK, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/intrepid-backports/+bug/303245 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303245 in intrepid-backports "Please backport amule-adunanza" [Wishlist,In progress] | 16:58 |
| kees | pitti: let me check, one moment | 16:59 |
| kees | pitti: no: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libhttp-response-encoding-perl | 17:00 |
| kees | pitti: slangasek had some theories and was letting soyuz settle before poking at it some more. | 17:00 |
| slangasek | kees: pitti: it's a bug in sync-sources, plain and simple; I need to have a look to see exactly where the bug is | 17:01 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Found it | 17:13 |
| NCommander | StevenK, where did it go? | 17:13 |
| StevenK | NCommander: I can't read, and grep can | 17:13 |
| ebroder | Is there documentation somewhere on the process for requesting a package get imported from Debian experimental? | 17:14 |
| ebroder | Like, I've seen wiki pages on DIF, but nothing on the Debian import itself | 17:15 |
| crimsun | ebroder: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 17:16 |
| ebroder | crimsun: Ah, thanks. I'll check that out | 17:16 |
| crimsun | ebroder: (there's also a tool in the ubuntu-dev-tools binary package called requestsync) | 17:17 |
| ebroder | Even better. I'll check that out, too | 17:17 |
| StevenK | NCommander: NEWed | 17:19 |
| NCommander | Thanks StevenK | 17:19 |
| NCommander | I appreciate it | 17:19 |
| ebroder | crimsun: Does requestsync assume that you want to sync from unstable? | 17:22 |
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| crimsun | ebroder: yes, but see -d | 17:23 |
| ebroder | Hmm...that's not documented in my requestsync. New after Hardy? | 17:24 |
| crimsun | ebroder: yes, in intrepid | 17:25 |
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| gicmo | mvo | 17:27 |
| gicmo | where is he | 17:27 |
| TheMuso | gicmo: He is currently in a session, and may or may not be online. | 17:28 |
| TheMuso | Since I can't see him on IRC, I'd say not. | 17:28 |
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| ebroder | Any backporters around who could ACK LP #301302 and LP #305001 ? | 17:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 301302 in hardy-backports "Please backport pyyaml (3.05-2) and libyaml (0.1.1-1) from Intrepid to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301302 | 17:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 305001 in hardy-backports "Please backport sqlalchemy 0.4.8 from Jaunty to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305001 | 17:42 |
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| Meztli-Xictli | hi | 17:53 |
| ScottK | ebroder: I'll have a look at the first one. | 18:14 |
| ScottK | ebroder: Why not 3.06-1 from Jaunty? | 18:14 |
| NCommander | hey ScottK | 18:15 |
| ScottK | Heya NCommander. | 18:15 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I just had a good talk with mvo on selective backports installation | 18:15 |
| ScottK | And ... | 18:15 |
| NCommander | ScottK, he'd be interested in extending APT to do what we want | 18:15 |
| ScottK | Excellent. | 18:15 |
| NCommander | (the base is there, libapt needs a write interface, and synaptic needs an interface) | 18:16 |
| joaopinto | how are you planning to support that ? | 18:16 |
| ScottK | NCommander: It'd probably be good to touch base with the bpo people too and see what they'd like. | 18:16 |
| NCommander | Well, one person showed up at my backports meeting | 18:16 |
| NCommander | (mvo showed, but had to run) | 18:16 |
| joaopinto | NCommander, do you have those ideas somewhere I can read ? | 18:17 |
| NCommander | joaopinto, I posted it in a spec | 18:17 |
| NCommander | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backports/SelectiveInstallation#preview | 18:17 |
| ebroder | ScottK: No good reason. 3.06-1 should be fine | 18:17 |
| joaopinto | NCommander, checking, tks | 18:18 |
| jdong | NCommander: if you have mvo hostage there's something else I want to poke him about | 18:19 |
| NCommander | jdong, I'm eating lunch w/ him | 18:19 |
| jdong | NCommander: in the case when a backport causes a package to be uninstallable it'd be nice for APT / synaptic to fall back on the regular non-backported version if it is installable. | 18:19 |
| andersk | Is there an appropriate place to assign bugs in the Ubuntu APT archive itself, such as bug 201179? | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 201179 in ubuntu "Contents.gz empty in dapper" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201179 | 18:22 |
| Hobbsee | andersk: a mirror, or archive.ubuntu.com? | 18:24 |
| andersk | archive.ubuntu.com | 18:24 |
| Hobbsee | that's not what the bug says? | 18:26 |
| Hobbsee | us.archive.ubuntu.com is a mirror | 18:26 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, i was probably unclear | 18:26 |
| Hobbsee | andersk: ubuntu-mirror-admins, iirc. | 18:26 |
| andersk | archive.ubuntu.com has the same bug. | 18:26 |
| andersk | So this is not just a mirror problem. | 18:27 |
| Hobbsee | oh, so it is | 18:27 |
| Hobbsee | slangasek: where should https://launchpad.net/bugs/201179 get reassigned to, if it's wrong on a.u.c? | 18:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 201179 in ubuntu "archive.ubuntu.com Contents.gz empty in dapper" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:28 |
| StevenK | Soyuz | 18:31 |
| andersk | Thanks. I assigned it to Soyuz, can someone confirm? | 18:33 |
| btm | Are there any plans to pull multipath-tools from upstream or patch multipath-tools for an intrepid SRU to fix the API issues with udev? (LP #306723) | 18:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 306723 in udev "udev breaks compatibility with multipath" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306723 | 18:36 |
| joaopinto | NCommander, I am not sure I got a clear understanding of the "Pinning dependencies" section, the text "Depends line which explicately pulls in the new version", means it will only pull the version if it's the dependency as a version requirement provided by the backports repos ? | 18:38 |
| NCommander | Right | 18:39 |
| NCommander | That means if we have a security fix in a backported library, we'd have to update its rdepends to pull it in unless the deps were pinned | 18:39 |
| joaopinto | so, unlike now, you must be sure that the package on backports have proper versions on the dependends, right ? | 18:40 |
| slangasek | Hobbsee: I don't have a better place for it than where it currently is :/ | 18:40 |
| slangasek | Hobbsee: "ubuntu-archive is subscribed" is more meaningful than anything else, I fear | 18:40 |
| joaopinto | ok, got it | 18:41 |
| Hobbsee | slangasek: ah, so it's ubuntu-archive fixable? | 18:43 |
| joaopinto | NCommander, the implementation should be generic, so you can use this selectivity feature with PPAs or 3rd party repositories | 18:45 |
| ebroder | ScottK: Who is the comment on LP 301302 directed at? Me? | 18:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 301302 in hardy-backports "Please backport pyyaml (3.05-2) and libyaml (0.1.1-1) from Intrepid to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301302 | 18:56 |
| ebroder | Oh - did you want me to switch it to use pyyaml 3.06-1? | 18:56 |
| ScottK-laptop | ebroder: Yes and yes. | 18:56 |
| ebroder | Ok, cool - I'll check that now | 18:56 |
| ScottK-laptop | ebroder: You don't actually have to change anything for a no change backport. Just build it locally, test that it installs and runs, and then say so in the bug. | 18:57 |
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| lionel | Hi ScottK-laptop, could you have a look at #303265 please? | 19:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | lionel: Ack'ed. It's up to the archive admins now. | 19:04 |
| slangasek | Hobbsee: should be, at least in coordination with soyuz | 19:04 |
| lionel | ScottK-laptop: thanks a lot! | 19:05 |
| Hobbsee | slangasek: oh good | 19:05 |
| ebroder | ScottK: I've updated LP 301302 - it does b/i/r on Hardy | 19:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 301302 in hardy-backports "Please backport pyyaml (3.06-1) and libyaml (0.1.1-1) from Jaunty to Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301302 | 19:07 |
| * ScottK-laptop looks | 19:09 | |
| ScottK-laptop | ebroder: Ack'ed now it's up to when an archive admin has time to process it. | 19:25 |
| ebroder | ScottK: Thanks a lot | 19:27 |
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| Picklesworth | Oh my.... the synaptics driver is indented with tabs /and/ spaces, by the same person! | 19:34 |
| ScottK-laptop | doko: Is there some summary of yesterday's Python discussion written up somewhere? I was trying to listen in, but could hear almost none of it. | 19:34 |
| doko | ScottK-laptop: just the blueprint | 19:42 |
| ScottK-laptop | doko: Thanks. That's more than I knew before. | 19:54 |
| mnemo | im trying to build the gvfs backends package but I get this error --> http://rafb.net/p/RcDYTK61.html | 20:09 |
| mnemo | what am I doing wrong? | 20:09 |
| ebroder | mnemo: You don't have the build dependencies installed | 20:09 |
| mnemo | ok thanks | 20:10 |
| ebroder | You should build packages with something like dpkg-buildpackage or debuild - those will tell you if you're missing build deps | 20:10 |
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| mnemo | ebroder: what is the exact command for building with these tools? | 20:10 |
| ebroder | With debuild, you can basically just run debuild. With dpkg-buildpackage, I think you want to do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 20:11 |
| mnemo | ebroder: ok thanks I will try those | 20:11 |
| ebroder | Both of them will attempt to GPG-sign packages, so you may want to add -us -uc to the command line args to keep them from doing that | 20:12 |
| ebroder | It'll error, but it's harmless | 20:12 |
| ebroder | (That is, it'll error if you don't pass -us -uc) | 20:12 |
| Hobbsee | apt-get build-deps packagename is also useful. | 20:12 |
| Hobbsee | sorry, build-dep | 20:13 |
| mnemo | Hobbsee: I know that one already, but thank you | 20:15 |
| Hobbsee | y/w | 20:16 |
| doko | tjaalton: please fix mesa, ftbfs on armel and lpia, causing build failures on other packages | 20:33 |
| tjaalton | doko: yes, ideas abou the problem? | 20:34 |
| tjaalton | +t | 20:34 |
| tjaalton | what to those archs share that makes it fail? | 20:35 |
| tjaalton | s/to/do/ | 20:35 |
| doko | tjaalton: create a lpia chroot and check ... | 20:35 |
| tjaalton | doko: hmm ok | 20:36 |
| TheMuso | c | 20:37 |
| pitti | Keybuk: do you see a reason to not upgrade jaunty's udev to 130? | 20:39 |
| pitti | Keybuk: it's needed for latest DK-Power | 20:39 |
| Nafallo | Denmark! | 20:39 |
| pitti | Keybuk: in fact, current Devkit itself needs it already | 20:43 |
| mnemo | im building a package using "fakeroot debian/rules binary" and then I do "dpkg -i ..." etc.... but can I do the same and also get debug symbols built into the binary??? | 20:45 |
| mok0 | mnemo: man dh_strip | 20:46 |
| gicmo | aha! mnemo is here | 20:46 |
| gicmo | right at the time I am about to leave for lunch | 20:46 |
| mnemo | hey gicmo :) | 20:46 |
| mnemo | did you see the patch Peter Christoffersen attached? | 20:47 |
| lifeless | cr3: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/%7Echeckbox-dev/checkbox/trunk/+merges | 21:05 |
| lifeless | cr3: its odd that there isn't a ubuntu branch for this, which any ubuntu dev/motu can write to | 21:06 |
| andersk | I'm trying to get a new upstream version of OpenAFS into Jaunty so that it will work on the Jaunty kernel: LP bug #303122. Have I done everything right to request sponsorship for this upload? | 21:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303122 in elisa "[win32] File "lost.305.hdtv-lol.avi" plays partially on XP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303122 | 21:56 |
| andersk | Sorry, LP bug #303112 | 21:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 303112 in openafs "Please upgrade to 1.4.8 for Jaunty kernel 2.6.28 support" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303112 | 21:57 |
| jdong | lol at 303122 | 21:58 |
| lionel | andersk: I had a look yesterday night. I wanted to give it more tests before uploading | 22:01 |
| lionel | andersk: how did you test it? server/client part? | 22:01 |
| andersk | After installing the openafs-client package, you run m-a a-i openafs to build and install the kernel module. Then you should be able to /etc/init.d/openafs start and see a bunch of stuff in /afs. | 22:02 |
| lionel | andersk: looks ok for the client, but for the server | 22:04 |
| andersk | Hmm. Testing the server is...complicated. | 22:05 |
| lionel | I know | 22:05 |
| lionel | but that would be cool to have some basic test for it | 22:05 |
| andersk | http://dietrichschroff.blogspot.com/2008/07/openafs-on-debian-configuration.html | 22:06 |
| lionel | andersk: yeah, I configured it once, but that's not an "easy" task | 22:07 |
| andersk | Possibly the /usr/sbin/afs-newcell makes this easier. | 22:08 |
| lionel | andersk: well, will continue my work on it. You bug is complete, there is no problem about it, just we are a bit slow processing | 22:09 |
| andersk | Great, thanks. | 22:09 |
| lionel | andersk: fell free to ping me again if it's not done over the week-end | 22:09 |
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| bryce_ | pitti: btw mdz is asking for you in the online services session (in the desktop room) if you're not otherwise occupied | 23:25 |
| seb128 | bryce_: he's leading a language pack session with danilo | 23:26 |
| bryce_ | seb128: thanks | 23:27 |
| gicmo | mnemo: hmm | 23:28 |
| tjaalton | doko: the mesa build problems are because lpia/armel don't have MAP_ANONYMOUS? | 23:39 |
| wgrant | doko: You ran away! | 23:39 |
| doko | wgrant: no, you did ;) anyway, meet in the lobby? | 23:40 |
| wgrant | doko: Bah, only for a moment. Which building? | 23:40 |
| doko | wgrant: coffe lobby | 23:40 |
| wgrant | Sure, I'll be there in a minute or so. | 23:41 |
| doko | $ fgrep -r MAP_ANONYMOUS /usr/include/ | 23:41 |
| doko | /usr/include/bits/mman.h:# define MAP_ANONYMOUS 0x20 /* Don't use a file. */ | 23:41 |
| doko | /usr/include/bits/mman.h:# define MAP_ANON MAP_ANONYMOUS | 23:41 |
| doko | /usr/include/asm-generic/mman.h:#define MAP_ANONYMOUS 0x20 /* don't use a file */ | 23:41 |
| doko | tjaalton: ^^^ | 23:42 |
| tjaalton | doko: so bits/mman.h, not sys/mman.h | 23:42 |
| doko | tjaalton: did you check on lpia? | 23:42 |
| tjaalton | doko: nope | 23:42 |
| tjaalton | but x86 has sys/mman.h | 23:43 |
| tjaalton | doko: I'll try the chroot | 23:44 |
| tjaalton | doko: no match for lpia | 23:55 |
| tjaalton | oh wait | 23:55 |
| tjaalton | doko: right, better to install libc6-dev before checking that. anyway, it's the same as with armel, so mesa should be patched to check bits/ | 23:57 |
| \sh | grmpf...why is the updated hardy kernel build with 4.2.3 but on upgraded hardy there is gcc 4.2.4? | 23:58 |
| tjaalton | doko: sorry, bits/mman.h is included by sys/mman.h, so it's something different then | 23:59 |
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