[17:31] cjwatson: Is there any reason lilo is on the desktop CD, despite us not using it in ubiquity? === robbiew1 is now known as robbiew [20:33] evand: we probably ought to use it in ubiquity in certain circumstances - I think it's a bug that we don't [20:34] evand: or at least we'll need to once we support LVM anyway [20:37] evand: I think the actual *reason* is that it's pulled in by a recommendation from the kernel - haven't bothered fixing since it seems basically harmless [20:45] indeed, I think slangasek removed it to help free up space for grub2 [20:46] the decision there being that we offer it as an option so that users can help us test and evaluate it [20:46] cjwatson: ^ [20:46] though actually, I believe it ended with us downloading it from the archive rather than having it on the cd [20:47] so perhaps he didn't remove lilo [20:48] lilo really takes up that much space? [20:48] err, ok [20:48] it doesn't, no [20:48] adding grub2 as an option is pretty easy [20:48] grub-installer in fact already supports that [20:48] yup, just commented out [20:48] though I may have nobbled it since we weren't using it [20:48] right [20:49] just un-nobble it and revert to Debian for that bit [20:49] indeed, I mentioned in the session that it would be an easy change for us [20:54] if one were interested in helping out with ubuntu installer work, where might one start? helping out on bugs? there seem to be quite a lot that haven't had updates in a while. [20:55] fleat: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerDevelopment is generally a good starting point. [20:58] ok, i did read through that (including all the installer internals stuff), which is why i figured bug chasing would be good since it's at the top of the list at the bottom. the specifications (like feisty-ubiquity) seem to have gotten a little stale though? the link for the README file in that bullet point list also gives a server error, so i figured i'd ask here in case there might be more up-to-date pathways to [21:46] user-setup: evand * r133 user-setup.ubuntu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) [21:46] user-setup: Changes for LP: #302870 [21:46] user-setup: * user-setup-apply: Add support for adduser --encrypt-home; remove [21:46] user-setup: deprecated encrypted-private (replaced in the installer by [21:46] user-setup: encrypted home support) [21:46] user-setup: * debian/user-setup-udeb.templates: Add encrypt-home debconf question; [21:46] user-setup: remove deprecated encrypted-private [22:01] user-setup: evand * r134 user-setup.ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.23ubuntu2 [22:07] fleat: Bug fixing is quite helpful. [22:45] fleat: major feature work (specifications) is probably not the best place to start [22:53] fleat: I've fixed the ubiquity/doc/README link in the wiki page [22:54] (thanks for the note) [23:03] okay, sounds good, i'll see what i can do