[00:29] <ravalox> For that matter, after a mythbuntu install how do I get my root password for mysql?
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> ravalox, by default, there is no root password for mysql
[00:32] <tgm4883_laptop> unless you set one during installation
[00:33] <ravalox> Thanks, I still can't seem to get mythtv to schedule recordings
[00:33] <ravalox> I've been using it for over two years now and never seen this.
[02:39] <Lossif> Hey, I just installed a new HD in my mythbox, Mounted and shared it and I can see it on the network but for some reason it is readonly even though it is set to be open
[03:01] <jase_> lossif: You shared it using samba? nfs?
[03:02] <Lossif> samba
[03:02] <Lossif> it is in my /media/ directory
[03:02] <Lossif> would I need to change the permissions of that directory?
[03:03] <jase_> im wondering if its shared read only to anonymous users, read/write to people that have supplied a password.
[03:04] <jase_> how was the samba share configured?
[03:04] <Lossif> [terradrive]
[03:04] <Lossif> comment = terradrive
[03:04] <Lossif> path = /media/terradrive
[03:05] <Lossif> public = yes
[03:05] <Lossif> writable = yes
[03:05] <Lossif> create mask = 0660
[03:05] <Lossif> directory mask = 0770
[03:05] <Lossif> force user = mythtv
[03:05] <Lossif> force group = mythtv
[03:05] <Lossif> my windows machine sees it
[03:05] <jase_> i was going to say you can force the user :)
[03:05] <Chaorain> how do I empty the trash?
[03:05] <Lossif> just can't write to it or delete anything
[03:05] <jase_> looks good from here. everything under /media/terradrive is owned by the mythtv user?
[03:06] <Lossif> owned?
[03:06] <Lossif> how do I check?
[03:06] <jase_> ls -l
[03:06] <Chaorain> When I delete the files from trash they disapear for 1/4 of a second and reappear
[03:07] <Lossif> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 2008-12-09 21:05 lost+found
[03:07] <jase_> or possibly for nautilus you can view the owner from the properties
[03:08] <jase_> ls -l /media/terradrive
[03:08] <jase_> or check using your gui by going to properties on the folder, owner is under permissions
[03:08] <Lossif> I am using ssh
[03:08] <Lossif> so no gui
[03:09] <jase_> ah
[03:09] <Lossif> and that drwx line is what I get when I run the ls -l
[03:09] <Lossif> does that root root mean it is root access only?
[03:09] <jase_> is the terradrive empty?
[03:10] <Lossif> yep
[03:10] <jase_> root means the root user owns it
[03:10] <jase_> try chown mythtv:mythtv /media/terradrive
[03:10] <jase_> you might have to run that as root or sudo
[03:10] <Chaorain> Um how do I permently delete files?
[03:11] <jase_> chaorain: try not deleting the files out from the trash, but right clicking on the trash icon and hitting empty trash.
[03:11] <Chaorain> thanks
[03:11] <Chaorain> that worked
[03:12] <Lossif> that works!
[03:12] <Lossif> yahoo!!!!
[03:12] <jase_> i couldnt replicate the problem with them reappearing on my own machine.. weird
[03:12] <Lossif> your the man ja
[03:12] <jase_> sweet!
[03:12] <Lossif> jase!
[03:12] <Chaorain> now I just have to get my TV tunner working
[03:12] <Lossif> now to copy over 500 gigs of media
[03:13] <Chaorain> lol
[03:13] <jase_> now mythtv owns that directory tree, so the people accessing it from shared folders can write as they are that user.
[03:13] <jase_> good luck !
[03:13] <Lossif> should take a couple of hours
[03:13] <Lossif> again, thanks a lot!
[03:14] <jase_> no problem
[03:14] <Chaorain> Is there anything I need to know on how to set up my tunner that is not on this page? (this is the correct card) http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_(800i)
[03:15] <jase_> charoain: check the notes at the top of that page
[03:16] <jase_> it says drivers were included with kernel >2.6.25
[03:16] <Chaorain> oh I missed thatnks
[03:16] <Chaorain> er
[03:16] <jase_> mythbuntu works out of the box, apparently
[03:16] <Chaorain> thanks
[03:17] <Chaorain> now I just need to get it setup the right way
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> Chaorain, jase_ not exactly
[03:18] <tgm4883_laptop> you still need the firmware
[03:18] <Chaorain> oh thanks
[03:22] <Chaorain> for videos where do I put the box art?
[03:24] <tgm4883_laptop> in your posters dir
[03:25] <Chaorain> um where is the posters dir
[03:27] <tgm4883_laptop> default, 8.10 and prior its in ~/.mythtv/mythvideo I think, 9.04 its in /var/lib/mythtv/posters
[03:29] <Chaorain> I'm running 8.10 but its not there but the 9.04 is there except for the /posters part. Do I need to create it?
[03:29] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[03:30] <jase_> is the posters directory a configurable setting through the mythtv frontend?
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> sorry answer come slow
[03:31] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm playing gear of war
[03:32] <tgm4883_laptop> yea you can configure the posters dir in the frontend
[03:32] <Chaorain> ah found it
[03:34] <Chaorain> or not
[03:35] <Chaorain> found it for real this time
[03:41] <scotepi> is iptables enabled by default?
[03:41] <scotepi> samba was working then i rebooted and its no longer working
[03:41] <scotepi> its running, but i cant connect
[03:42] <tgm4883_laptop> scotepi, I don't think so, you can check the status of ufw
[03:42] <scotepi> not running
[03:44] <scotepi> ive restarted samba a few times as well as rebooted
[03:48] <scotepi> another reboot, nothin
[03:49] <Chaorain> how do I delete a directory I do not have permission to?
[03:49] <scotepi> sudo rm -rf
[03:49] <Chaorain> ty
[03:51] <scotepi> why is samba not working >< i set up all the time for my self
[03:56] <scotepi> where the hell is the smb.conf?
[03:56] <Zinn> scotepi: Please watch your language.
[03:57] <scotepi> the gui has like 15 shares in it, but both smb.conf in locate only have defaults
[03:57] <Chaorain> how do I delete a poster for a video?
[04:14] <scotepi> ubuntu, you fail go back into the hole you crawled out of
[04:16] <hads> s/ubuntu/scotepi/
[04:24] <tgm4883_laptop> wtf?
[04:28] <hads> The world is full of silly angry people.
[04:55] <sabhain> laga you in?
[05:08] <sabhain> anyone have a recommendation on debugging tftp services?
[05:11] <jase_> i have seen people putting -vvv in the server args. cant elaborate as i havent done it myself
[05:13] <sabhain> I'm just trying to find that it's actually running .. I have a working mvpmc system running on my backend server, and now I'm trying to add mythbuntu-diskless .. seems like since inetd.d was already there that the diskless install didn't go all the way?  totally grasping at straws here.
[05:15] <jase_> sorry not really sure. you could try connecting manually with a tftp client on your desktop. might be easier to debug than a booting diskless client
[05:17] <foxbuntu> sabhain, ps ax | grep inet.d
[05:17] <foxbuntu> perhaps
[05:20] <sabhain> that was helpful .. foxbuntu & jase_ .. now I'm at least getting a "forbidden directory" error from the tftp client ..
[05:20] <sabhain> perhaps it's now a permissions error?
[05:21] <sabhain> when a directory name in the output of ls is highlighted .. what does that mean?
[05:21] <foxbuntu> sabhain, highlighted how?
[05:22] <foxbuntu> sabhain, what user is inet.d running as, and what directory is it trying to access, and the output of ls -l /dir/from/error
[05:25] <sabhain> highlighted green .. I think it must just mean 777
[05:27] <sabhain> how do I determine whose running inet.d .. wouldn't it be root?
[05:28] <sabhain> should be trying to access /tftpboot
[05:31] <foxbuntu> sabhain, its in the conf
[05:39] <sabhain> well now ,, real progress .. i can get a splash screen
[05:40] <BandC> how do i check if my tuner is set up correctly. i can set it up as a DVB capture card but scanning channels doesnt work. signal level is zero
[05:45] <sabhain> get from the splash to an (initramfs) cursor .. so that's some real progress .. enough for tonight .. thanks for the help all
[06:06] <foxbuntu> BandC, which tuner?
[09:39] <ingo86> hi all
[09:40] <ingo86> i'm searching for an hybrid tv card, which does DVB-T and analogue, anyone could advice me something that works out of the box with mythtv?
[10:55] <frink_> hey folks
[10:55] <frink_> anybody here today??
[11:07] <highzeth> obviously ;)
[11:11] <frink_> ;-)
[11:11] <frink_> how r ya?
[11:11] <highzeth> not shabby, working from home, yourself?
[11:19] <frink_> knackered, in hospital with my  kid.
[11:19] <frink_> knackered, in hospital with my  kihe got pnumonia
[11:20] <frink_> oops
[11:20] <frink_> and on a dodgy HSDPA connection ;-)
[11:20] <highzeth> ouch, sorry to hear that, nothing is worse than having a sick kid
[11:21] <frink_> aside from that, I'm OK1 heh
[11:21] <frink_> Yeah, he is doingOK now though. antibiotics kicking
[11:21] <frink_> in nicely.
[11:21] <frink_> He's well enough to destroy hospital equipment no
[11:21] <frink_> w and to crash the tv/internet/info terminal ;-)
[11:21] <highzeth> hehe good
[11:22] <frink_> windows innit..
[11:22]  * frink_ gets a cmd shell
[11:35] <highzeth> =)
[11:36] <highzeth> cant decide on what multiswitch to get, preparing to setup a BUD over xmas
[11:39] <frink_> whats a ultiswitch?
[11:39] <frink_> and whats a BUD? heh
[11:40] <highzeth> multiswitch is a emm DiSEqC on steroids you could say. BUD = Big Ugly Dish
[11:48] <frink_> ahhh ok
[11:48] <frink_> i just get terrestial digital here in the uk
[11:48] <frink_> and.. torrents
[11:49] <highzeth> mhm, thats why Im getting the BUD, to lock on 28.2E and get britsh channels
[11:49] <highzeth> so far up north(norway) so I need a big one to get a lock that can handle bad weather
[12:04] <frink_> yeah
[12:04] <frink_> 28.2E has some good stuff on
[12:05] <highzeth> oh yes, and best of all, its FTA, so well worth the hassle mounting up the BUD
[12:05] <frink_> and an awfull lot of crap
[12:05] <highzeth> thats a common with all sats ;)
[12:11] <highzeth> http://wiki.hoiseth.no/images/4/47/Sat-28.2e-integrate-draft-2.png  thats how it will be ones all is done
[12:33] <frink_> flip
[12:34] <frink_> all for tv!
[12:34] <frink_> well, a fun project too :-)
[12:35] <highzeth> well, its only the BUD thats missing atm, the rest of the chart is operational today
[12:35] <frink_> cool
[12:35] <frink_> thats some setup
[12:35] <frink_> with 3 kids and a degree to complete, i aint got time now. heh
[12:35] <frink_> i just have a myth backend, couple of front ends and thats it
[12:36] <highzeth> its not that bad, the biggest issue is the cable stretches, longest one being over 150meter. Gotta try and "hide" the BUD as best as I can to keep the family peace hehe
[12:37] <frink_> ;-)
[12:37] <frink_> i know..
[12:37] <highzeth> thank god I live on a farm is all I say ;)
[12:37] <highzeth> 4.8meter dish is a little easier to hide here than in a regular back garden
[12:46] <highzeth> off for a few errands, good luck with the kid
[12:52] <frink_> hanks
[12:52] <frink_> we just got discharged - behome soon!
[12:52] <frink_> good luck with the project!
[12:52] <frink_> that'll be a nice looking dish!
[14:29] <stiev3> is there a filename length limit for mythvideo recognition?  It seems like it's randomly ignoring some of my longer filenames or ones that contain underscores.
[15:35] <MythbuntuGuest23> I'm getting ready to setup my first mythbuntu box. I already have a hauugpauge pvr 150 however the box that I bought is a Gateway GM5483E. This model already comes with a TV tuner. My question is, should I use that one or the PVR-150 or should I keep them both in?
[15:39] <MythbuntuGuest23> I cant copy an paste to this window, however googling the compouter and going to the gateway support site, it doents give much details for the tv tuner
[16:07] <shankazulu> MythbuntuGuest23: you can check with "lspci" for detail on your tv tuner, and yes you can have multiple tuners in one mythtv setup
[16:12] <MythbuntuGuest23> what would be the benifit of having two?
[16:25] <sabhain> laga, how current are the issues with MCC that are referenced in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5464494&postcount=4
[16:26] <sabhain> I've navigated through my PXE / TFTP timeout issues (I have / will document in the forums .. I don't think they're bugs so much as perhaps the specifics of my setup).
[16:27] <sabhain> But now, I'm at the point of trying to reconfigure the i386 image from MCC, and MCC for the client doesn't want to fire.  As I haven't enabled the proprietary nvidia in the image, I think the diskless boot is hanging at the gui fireup.  It sits at a blinking cursor for a bit, and then drops me to an (initramfs) prompt.
[16:27] <sabhain> before I started, i did a complete apt-get upgrade / update on the server .. but I am running 8.04 and not 8.10
[16:30] <stiev3> MythbuntuGuest23, with each additional tuner you increase the number of simultaneous things you can do.  Record 1 live program, watch a different live program, record two live programs, etc...
[16:51] <MythbuntuGuest23> Thank you stiev3
[17:48] <laga> sabhain: if X doesn't start, you won't be dropped to an initramfs prompt
[17:49] <sabhain> darn .. was hoping it would be that simple
[17:55] <sabhain> seems perhaps the image might be incomplete or something?
[18:01] <sabhain> is there a key stroke during the splash to show details of the boot?
[18:01] <tgm4883_laptop> ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[18:32] <javatexan> hey guys have yall seen the new switched digital video adapters for time warner cable?
[18:43]  * sabhain hopes that takes a LONG time to get to his area
[18:43] <javatexan> you are evil
[18:44] <javatexan> sabain
[18:44] <sabhain> why's that?  SDV doesn't work so well w/ my 6 tuner mythbuntu setup .. it'll cost me a fortune to maintain what I have when they go to SDV
[18:45] <sabhain> I'll pretty much need to get 2 or 3 HD-PVR's (@ $200 each) just to keep 4 tuners up and running ..
[18:46] <javatexan> wow
[18:46] <foxbuntu_vm> indeed that is my worry as well
[18:46] <sabhain> TWC just needs to ditch analog cable .. if they drop the 70 channels of analog, they'd have PLENTY of bandwith to double or even triple their HD offering
[18:47] <sabhain> I can convert my HDHR over to OTA .. but as for the other channels .. I'm toast.
[18:47] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, well you should still be able to get all clearQAM via the HDHR
[18:48] <foxbuntu_vm> but for HD Cable you will need the HDPVR depending on the STB setup from TWC
[18:48] <sabhain> foxbuntu_vm: in my area .. the clear QAM is pretty much the same as OTA .. for awhile, I was getting TNT / TBS  .. etc, but the last 3 or 4 months, the Clear has just been the OTA's with really good signal strength
[18:49] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, thats my area as well
[18:49] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, but I get better signal on QAM than OTA
[18:49] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm ya I don't get my analog stuffs over clear QAM
[18:49] <foxbuntu_vm> so thats why I stick to it
[18:49] <jphillip> just my localst and a bunch of garbage
[18:50] <sabhain> agreed on the signal quality .. what, you don't like the 5 or 6 shopping channels in clear QAM?
[18:50] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, nor do I, I think when the switch to digital happens the STBs will still convert to analog signal so it wont matter too much
[18:50] <jphillip> sabhain those and the 180 music channels
[18:50] <jphillip> also all the on demand junk
[18:51] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm ya but then I'd need to get 2 more stb's where I don't need them now
[18:51] <jphillip> comcast supposidly is keeping analog around, but I'm tempted to pick up 2 converter boxes with them free coupons just incase
[18:52] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, I already have 2. plus the HDHR, and 3 HVR-1800s
[18:52] <foxbuntu_vm> and the unsetup HDPVR
[18:53] <jphillip> I have to pay so much a month per STB too
[18:54] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, as do I and they jacked up the prices again so I am looking at just buying a few off ebay or something
[18:55] <foxbuntu_vm> I think its 9$/mon now
[18:55] <jphillip> I already have 3 STBs, a HDHR, and 2 pvr-xxxs.  I'd hate to have to throw 2 more STBs on just to use the pvr-xxxs
[18:55] <sabhain> either of you actually get a Firewire enabled STB?
[18:56] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm there was that lawsuit I pasted a while back about a guy suing TWC saying he wanted to buy his own STB and not rent
[18:56] <jphillip> sabhain I might :_
[18:56] <jphillip> :)
[18:56] <sabhain> comcast?
[18:56] <jphillip> yep
[18:56] <jphillip> that who you have too?
[18:56] <sabhain> no .. TWC .. and no luck getting anything out of the 1394 yet
[18:57] <javatexan> next month
[18:57] <javatexan> darn
[18:57] <jphillip> ya TWC is bad with that, one of the other devs has them and can't get a thing
[18:57] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, I have my STBs on my pvr150s atm because I am grabbing the digital channels beyond the normal cable band
[18:57] <javatexan> so are you saying that these converter boxes dont work well with mythtv?
[18:57] <jphillip> they randomly 5C everything and the STB will say its good on boot but then it 5C's them later or something
[18:58] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm thats what firewire does for me, with the exception of a few channels
[18:58] <jphillip> I guess I could overlap them if I needed
[18:58] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, yeah, I dont think firewire works in my area
[18:58] <jphillip> javatexan I'd imagine you would be fine, just need to do a lot of IR blasting
[18:58] <sabhain> I picked up a STB (motorola DCH) on ebay that just needs an MCard .. but I haven't gotten in to that yet .. part of me thinks they won't even install the M-Card unless it's a TiVo
[18:59] <jphillip> sabhain I've heard you can get them if you befriend some of the workers, but there is no policy in place for you to be able to get one
[18:59] <javatexan> my understanding was the communication was over USB not IR blasting
[18:59] <jphillip> also I don't know if there is anything to stop them from firmware blasting the box you just bought
[18:59] <jphillip> javatexan only thing I know of that does usb are the directtv receivers
[19:00] <sabhain> how close are the hdpvrs to being user ready?
[19:00] <javatexan> let me find the link again....hold on
[19:00] <jphillip> sabhain whenever .22 is released
[19:01] <jphillip> maybe next mythbuntu release, maybe not
[19:01] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, things are not looking good for .22 happening in 9.04
[19:01] <foxbuntu_vm> seems like the devs have backed off their original comments about it getting close
[19:02] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm I believe it
[19:02] <foxbuntu_vm> yeah
[19:02] <jphillip> its a shame I hear that it has some great features
[19:02] <foxbuntu_vm> yeah
[19:02] <sabhain> so probably another 6 months?  That's livable ..
[19:02] <jphillip> in theory a PPA may exist for it at some point as well, you are all welcome to help if you want it :)
[19:02] <foxbuntu_vm> its going to be a big feature jump again like .20 -> .21
[19:03] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm I hear the HD support in it is phenomenal
[19:03] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, yes, iirc h.264 will be supported
[19:03] <foxbuntu_vm> well, it has to be]
[19:03] <foxbuntu_vm> for the HDPVR
[19:04] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm BDrom rips are supposed to be very nice in there as well
[19:05] <jphillip> where currently you'd have to feed mplayer all sorts of info just to get it to play with sound and such
[19:05] <javatexan> never mind you also have to have cablecard too.
[19:05] <javatexan> darn smaller print
[19:05] <javatexan> :)
[19:05] <jphillip> javatexan ya thats not gonna happen
[19:06] <foxbuntu_vm> not until someone gets venture money to pay people to make it happen ;)
[19:06] <foxbuntu_vm> ....so not likely anytime soon
[19:06] <jphillip> foxbuntu_vm I think its hard to even get your hands on them
[19:06] <foxbuntu_vm> :P
[19:06] <foxbuntu_vm> jphillip, as a consumer yes...as a business/oem no
[19:07] <jphillip> I think I saw pci cards for them but they were like 1k a pop
[19:07] <foxbuntu_vm> yeah
[19:07] <foxbuntu_vm> the tech is there, it just isnt used because the cable co's dont want to support it
[19:23] <sabhain> jphillip .. PPA?
[19:23] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, Personal Package Archive
[19:24] <sabhain> that would be for implementing .22 before it's migrated to the main?
[19:26] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, yes, it will be built so it can be installed via apt rather than building from source
[19:26] <foxbuntu_vm> sabhain, there already has been some work done on it, but it is still a ways out
[19:28] <sabhain> understood.
[20:49] <toorima> any news on the replacement imdb script will come? Or is the problem with low res posters solved for you guys?
[20:51] <toorima> http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5917
[20:51] <toorima> will such updates come to 8.10 or will only weekly updates get it?
[20:52] <laga> if it goes into the -fixes branch, then weekly updates will get it for sure
[20:52] <laga> 8.10 would require an SRU, which is a PITA to do
[20:52] <hads> It's just a script, download it and change a setting :)
[20:53] <toorima> hmm will try that
[20:56] <toorima> anyone tested that script? tmdb.pl
[20:58] <jphillip> toorima I was under the impression that it is currently working fine
[20:59] <jphillip> I haven't seen a low res poster on mine in ages
[20:59]  * hads uses TMDB and TTVDB anyway
[20:59] <jphillip> if you are trying to get new images make sure you delete the old one or it will just keep that and not get a new one
[21:00] <toorima> jphillip: yeah i know, but every new movie i add gets the low res cover
[21:00] <toorima> not sure why really
[21:00] <toorima> hads: does it work well for ya?
[21:01] <hads> Yes fine. I don't use that script though.
[21:01] <toorima> and what is ttvdb? same as metacleanup or?
[21:01] <jphillip> the current imdb one works fine for me unless I upgrade it by hand at some point and don't recall
[21:02] <toorima> jphillip: would you mind emailing me your imdb.pl?
[21:03] <toorima> jphillip: do you use regular 8.10 or weekly updates?
[21:03] <jphillip> 8.10, I'll pastebin it
[21:03] <toorima> i dont use weekly updates
[21:03] <jphillip> !pastebin
[21:03] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[21:04] <jphillip> I did use weekly updates in 8.04, so in theory maybe its left over from that
[21:06] <jphillip> toorima http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m103aeb7a
[21:06] <toorima> jphillip: thx i'll try it right away
[21:06] <jphillip> toorima do me a favor and compare it to your old one
[21:07] <jphillip> so we know if there is a difference or what
[21:10] <toorima> ok
[21:12] <toorima> hmm its identical to mine
[21:13] <jphillip> could be the movies then
[21:13] <jphillip> got any examples that it happens on, I can try it on mine tonight
[21:15] <toorima> well last movies i've added was mirrors and in bruges and those got low res covers
[21:16] <toorima> eagle eye
[21:17] <jphillip> I'll fake one of them and see what it does
[21:18] <laga> brügge?
[21:19] <toorima> in bruges http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780536/
[21:19] <laga> ah, yes. german title is "leben und sterben in brügge", for some reason i assumed it was a german film
[21:19] <laga> .oO(.."bruges is a fscking shithole"..)
[21:20] <toorima> heard its a good movie, but not seen it myself yet
[22:48] <KillerKiwi> I have a backend with a wireless connection, is it possible to set the backend to use the IP from the wireless card on startup ?
[22:53] <hads> Use a static IP
[22:54] <KillerKiwi> network manager cant set one
[22:55] <hads> Weird. Tell your DHCP server to staically assign one to that MAC
[22:56] <KillerKiwi> ive done that...
[22:56] <KillerKiwi> but network manager connects after mythbackend starts
[22:57] <hads> Get a wired connection :)
[22:58] <KillerKiwi> lol the box is in a bad position....