/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/10/#ubuntu-ops.txt

ikoniayour apology is appriciated, although I wasn't looking for an apology (appriciated it is though)00:00
ikoniaI just find you trying to justify your behaviour a weak argument00:00
ikoniaand thats what I'm not comfortable with00:01
ikoniaI'm not trying to humiliate you in any way shape or form.00:01
ikoniawhich is another thing that concerns me that you think you've been banned for humilation or to beg forgivness, you where banned because of your comments in the channel - nothing more00:01
ikoniajust want to make that clear00:01
Ximali did not curse in the channel i merely spoke my open opinion of your trying to moderate my question which was legitmate00:02
ikoniayour question wasn't legitimate00:02
ikoniayou where asking for isbn numbers of books00:02
Ximalno i asked how to find out what book an isbn number belonged too..00:03
ikoniayes, and that is not legitimate in #ubuntu00:03
ikoniaand your response to be being asked to keep on topic was unacceptable00:03
Ximalit is if that book number corresponds with an ubuntu book i was trying to look up00:03
ikoniano it isn't00:03
Ximalyes it is as ubuntu is a support channel for all things relating to the canonical product of ubuntu00:04
Ximaland it says in the tos that ubuntu will support its products.. not limited to but including it's reading material00:04
Ximalhow can you support a product but not even read it's tos or user agreements ?00:04
ikoniawell, a.) I disagree with that b.) I don't believe you where looking for an ubuntu book - but thats a personal opinion c.) you could have said that when you where asked to keep on topic00:04
ikoniaXimal: is it a book published by canonical ?00:05
Ximalsee you said personal opinion yourself friend... and i did ... 00:05
Ximali was looking for the ubuntu bible isbn number so my library could order it..00:05
ikoniaI didn't say my personal opinion - I'm making my personal opinion known to you00:05
LjL[01:03:43] <Ximal> it is if that book number corresponds with an ubuntu book i was trying to look up00:05
LjLwrong answer00:05
ikoniaubuntu bible is not a canonical book, so it's nothing to do with ubuntu or canonical, it's a third party book, and researching 3rd party isbn numbers is not #ubuntu's job00:06
LjL"it is if i'm looking for an Ubuntu package to perform that task" <- right answer00:06
ikoniawell thats the bottom line of it00:06
Ximalcorrect ljl ... 00:06
PiciIts akin to asking questions like 'Whats a good computer to run Ubuntu on', these are not things that we discuss in the main channel, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic for such things.00:07
Ximalmy issue was i'm trying to get my library to expand their horizons ... anything about ubuntu or linux period ... and since this seems to be my favorite distro...00:07
Ximali was merely trying to seek help from whom i thought might have better ideas or experience in such things00:07
ikoniaXimal: that doesn't make it on topic to ask in #ubuntu00:07
LjL... then it's a fine topic for #ubuntu-offtopic.00:07
ikoniaas bazhang directed you to that channel00:07
Ximalok if i had asked that in off topic like i did before i would have been ignored..00:07
ikoniathat doesn't mean ask in #ubuntu00:08
LjLand? 1) that's a hypothetical 2) so?00:08
LjLi mean, seriously00:08
Ximalok guys... my issue with this is ... simply put ... i want to learn more than just how to use ubuntu so i'm researching what i can and trying at the same time to get the local library to do so too.. 00:08
LjLpeople who have support questions ask them in #ubuntu-offtopic instead of #ubuntu, because they feel they're ignored in the latter00:09
ikoniathats not your issue00:09
ikoniayour issue is your attitude in #ubuntu00:09
mneptokwe have Terms Of Service?00:09
LjLpeople who have NOT support questions ask them in #Ubuntu instead of #ubuntu-offtopic, because they feel they're ignored in the latter00:09
ikoniayou can research what ever you want00:09
LjLmneptok: do you?00:09
mneptoknot for the OS. for a support contract, sure.00:09
mneptokunless i missed something.00:10
LjLmneptok, then why are you idling here when Ximal has signed a support contract with you saying that you should be helping him!00:10
Ximalwell is it tooo much to ask to get a bot that would que questions so ops and trusted members of the community can help out and wade through the junk questions or refer them to an echo bot ... in the off topic channel etc... i mean i realize that's what a forum is for... but for those of us who chose as you say .. " the latter " would it not be useful ?00:10
mneptokLjL: i'm taking some of the free peanuts.00:10
ikoniaI'm afraid I must leave for 10 - 15 minutes. Apologies for disruption00:10
LjLi mean, i think he has signed it, because otherwise it'd be foolish of him to EXPECT support, right?00:10
LjLXimal: no, it's not too much too ask00:11
LjLXimal: look, i'll code that bot in... 10 seconds00:11
* mneptok is never surprised by what people expect00:11
LjLXimal: join #ubuntu-meta please00:11
LjLdone, coded00:11
Ximalanyhow ... i am sorry for the sore and rude attitude ... 00:11
Ximalwhen and if u decide to let me back in... i will be thankful... and i will try to change my attitude according to how it is expected when in the main support channel... thank u for ur time guys..00:12
LjLand he still hasn't joined #ubuntu-meta00:12
LjLright after complaining that a bot *exactly* like the one i have in there "doesn't exist"00:12
mneptokLjL: perhaps that cinnamon roll scared him :P00:13
LjLi retract that, he joined00:13
ikoniaLjL: no one likes your bot00:21
ikoniajust unbanned him, 00:22
LjLikonia: that's true, yet a lot of people ask about something exactly like it00:26
LjLikonia: then look at it for a day or two, find it wonderful, and forget it entirely00:26
ikoniaI was only teasing00:26
LjLikonia: ok but that's actually the truth00:27
ikoniaI come and go with metabot as you know00:28
ikoniaright - back out again00:28
LjLikonia: imo it shows, if nothing else, that people don't really know what they want from things, in this case the thing being #Ubuntu00:28
LjLikonia: but you never *asked* for something like metabot to begin with00:28
PiciFYI: ctrl-alt-backspace is going to be tested as being disabled by default in Jaunty00:32
LjLPici: WTF00:32
LjLPici: no seriously, WTF00:33
PriceChildThat combo never works for me anymore when I want it to :(00:33
PiciLjL: I mentioned that users rely on it as a mechanism to restart X00:33
PriceChildPici: what was the reply?00:34
LjLPriceChild: uh, i've never had an instance of it failing - except when everything else would fail..00:34
PriceChildLjL: hehe that's the instance i'm moaning about 8-)00:34
LjLPriceChild: in those cases there's really only REISUB left usually00:34
LjLPici: but to begin with, is there any vaguely sane or valid reason to propose removing it?00:34
PriceChildLjL: my keyboard has sysrq on a fn key and it doesn't seem to like it anyway :(00:34
PiciLjL: xorg removed it upstream00:35
LjLPriceChild: you need to keep AltGr pressed too00:35
LjLPici: ah well, then the blame rests elsewhere... that's not much comfort though00:35
PriceChildLjL: so what keys in total?00:35
LjLPriceChild: well, i don't know your actual keyboard layout, but probably keep pressed AltGr+Fn+SysRq and hit R E I S U B00:36
PiciPriceChild: There are other patches discussed to enable it, but not make it easy for a user to accidentally press it00:36
LjLPriceChild: and no, i can't lend you a hand.00:36
PriceChildLjL: meh, i was just using alt, ah well. Anyway, night!00:36
PriceChildjdong: ^00:36
LjLPici: i still find it nonsense, who'd *accidentally* press ctrl+alt+backspace... pulease00:37
LjLPriceChild: what's with jdong anyway?00:38
PiciWhat isnt wrong with jdong00:39
LjLPici: i didn't say "wrong", you stretched it00:39
PiciLjL: I somehow saw it in that sentence.00:39
LjLPici: you've had too much jdong then00:40
jdong:D00:51
* jdong hugs PriceChild 00:51
jdongEMBRACE the INNUENDO... LOVE the INNUENDO.... TAKE IT INSIDE OF YOU....00:51
LjLdon't tell me that...00:51
LjLnevermind, not investigating further00:51
phixhey LjL, I am still banned01:29
Mez@bansearch phix01:31
ubottuMatch: *!*@123-243-44-131.tpgi.com.au by LjL-Simmons in #ubuntu on Dec 09 2008 21:34:27 (ID: 7762)01:31
LjLyes you are01:31
LjLare you're staying that way01:31
Mez@btlogin01:31
musikgoat|maindon't know if it shoudl be delt with or not, but nick|here just randomly spurted out   dd -i /dev/zero -o /dev/sda01:33
musikgoat|mainoh nevermind01:33
musikgoat|maini'm an idiot01:33
* musikgoat|main laughs, and parts01:33
Mezrandom01:34
LjLhe's not an idiot, he spotted it correctly01:34
* Mez didnt say he was01:34
LjLhe said it01:35
MezI know ;)01:35
LjLuhm, i'm unmuting nick|here because i'm not entirely sure 1) whether he gave the command he gave by mistake, forgetting a limiting dd option  2) whether that command might actually have been appropriate for the question that was asked (it doesn't look so to me, but it was a bit complicated an issue)01:41
LjLphix: any more questions?01:45
Mez!idle | phix 01:48
ubottuphix: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.01:48
phixok01:48
phixLjL: yes, can you unban me now?01:48
LjLphix: no01:49
LjLi mean, yes i can, but i won't01:49
phixLjL: Why won't you?01:49
LjLphix, you proposed to come back after an hour. i really do not think that's an appropriate duration for your ban.01:50
LjLphix: i mentioned that, too, but perhaps too implicitly01:50
phixLjL: ok, it has been alot longer than an hour sir01:50
LjLphix: so i'll say that more explicitely: come back in a few *days*01:50
phixI have more questions01:50
LjLphix: perhaps you might learn that bad things you do actually do bite back against you01:50
phixmore relating to you on a personal level, or isn't that appropiate here?01:51
LjLit's not really appropriate here01:51
phixshame01:51
LjLand for that matter, i don't think i'm particularly interested about talking about personal issues01:51
phixwell I will be on my way then01:51
LjLbye01:51
Mez@mark phix01:53
ubottuThe operation succeeded.01:53
LjL@mark #ubuntu-ops phix Weird fellow, anyway, the intent of what he did was malicious enough (9 "hi" messages, including those after the floodbots muted, only stopped when I kicked him)01:53
ubottuThe operation succeeded.01:53
* Mez chuckles01:53
LjLshould have known01:53
Mezit's not obvious we just discussed that at all is it ? :P01:53
* Mez chuckles01:54
LjLMez: perhaps let's add as a postilla that, unless they forget, the banning op does the @mark so we don't end up in a marking conflic ;P01:54
* Mez whistles innocently01:55
LjLwatch for people complaining that "manzur" is sending them weird PMsve he's just a clueless fellow with a bad habit of querying people, but i might be wrong and he might be a larger scale troll.02:01
MezLjL: I believe that earlier he was in #freenode asking about getting a cloak for his "brothers" account02:02
Mezoh, no, that was tugan02:02
LjLhe's also been asking, in #ubuntu-es, how to change his nickserv password02:02
* Mez headwalls02:02
LjLit took about half an hour to get him to do it02:03
LjLwhen i gave him the plain command, he asked someone else (who was giving terrible advice himself, such as "here /help -l gives info about all commands") to confirm that my version was correct02:03
LjLso i told him to /msg nickserv set password help to confirm that for himself02:03
LjLso he asked me what the english help he got meant02:04
bazhanghe's a known quantity LjL , has a history of this sort of thing02:04
LjLbazhang: there must be a reason i had him on a weird-colored highlight to begin with02:05
bazhangie manzur / trolling02:05
* LjL should patch his client to give reasons for highlights02:05
bazhanghaha02:05
bazhangis there really a #ubuntu-meta ?02:05
LjLbazhang: yup, try it, the bot is fun, if not especially useful02:06
bazhangLjL, joined thanks :)02:06
LjLah wait, manzur is the guy who had jesus in the ident02:06
LjLi had a sudden flash02:06
LjL(well, no, i looked at the bt)02:06
bazhangheh same here, though his name (manzur ) was very familiar02:07
LjLok look, i was about to just ban "froggles"02:15
LjLi haven't02:15
LjLwatch02:15
bazhangthat metabot rocks.02:15
bazhangah spongebob, that name is really familiar (from a couple of days ago)02:16
LjLnah, it gets 95% of the questions wrong02:16
LjLyeah i stared a little at the realname...02:17
LjLbut can't link it to anything honestly02:17
LjL@mark manzur Reports of innocuous but annoying and semi-random private queries from this fellow02:19
ubottuThe operation succeeded.02:19
LjL@mark #ubuntu froggles Joined and asked "Is this the place where to spread the word of the Klan?", then went on with normal Ubuntu questions.02:20
ubottuThe operation succeeded.02:20
FlannelWhat a strange fellow02:20
ubottubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (shield)02:36
FlannelNo ones awake?02:36
bazhanghe just did that in #freenode as well, claiming 'wrong window'02:36
naliothyep, i just had a 'wrong window' spasm, too02:47
* nalioth needs to see a doctor for that02:47
bazhanghaha02:47
ubot3In #ubuntu-offtopic, dmsuperman said: !kirbyrape is <reply> (>^.^(>O.O)>03:00
jdongwhat the hell?03:02
jdongif you give em that, I want my omgjacob alias.03:02
FlannelWho on earth would give them that?03:02
bazhangno one.03:02
jdongI don't see the rape though.03:03
jdongmaybe I'm not looking hard enough?03:03
jdongor maybe I shouldn't look any harder..03:03
* bazhang goes back to sweeping the dojo03:03
* jdong doesn't speak all you young kid slang....03:04
jdong"sweeping the dojo" back in my day we used to call it... well.. nvm03:04
* nalioth wonders how ubot3 keeps getting into -offtopic03:07
Flannelgenerally with a /join03:08
* Flannel ducks.03:08
=== robotgee1 is now known as robotgeek
macroba1Hello, guys! Whom could I mail regarding a bug in ubottu factoids database web interface script? I don't have an launchpad account, and wouldn't like to create one. If it is ok, I can post it here as well.05:43
macroba1Well, or I can pm it to any op here...05:44
ubottubazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (Chimpbot)06:04
ubottuDaSkreech called the ops in #kubuntu ()06:05
stdinmacroba1: you can say here or in #ubuntu-bots06:10
macroba1Well, I've already pm'ed seveaz, who is listed as the author of the script. Basically, it is an SQL Injection, and that's why I wouldn't like to announce it so openly.06:24
ubottuIn ubottu, liquidfu22 said: new to this so what is a bot06:25
jussi01Hello all06:57
jussi01Im still alive... kinda06:57
stdinooh, he lives!06:59
jussi01stdin: Im sitting in heathrow...07:00
jussi01I have to wait till 6.30 tonight for my flight :/07:00
stdinat least you wern't supposed to go via Stansted07:01
jussi01lol07:01
jussi01Im not "that" stupid when planning my itenary..07:02
stdinso what are you going to do in an airport for 11.5 hours?07:03
ikoniajussi01: come meet me for lunch, I'm buying07:07
ikoniahave a walk around london if you fancy it07:07
ikoniakill some time07:07
jussi01Ive no idea. Ive got free lan, so probably just do internet stuff.. maybe complain to people about my pain07:07
ikoniaahhh yes07:07
ikoniathe leg07:07
jussi01ikonia: WOnt be doing any walking07:07
ikoniaI'd forgot07:07
ikoniasorry07:07
ikoniathoughtless07:07
jussi01yeah07:07
jussi01you could come up here.... :P07:07
ikoniaI can look into it, if I can get there from my close tubes I'll popup 07:08
ikoniayour not "air side" yet are you07:08
jussi01was just thinking about that, I am - Ive not been through customs cause Im a transfer...07:10
jussi01so aint going to work :/07:10
ikoniaI'd be locked out07:11
ikonia:(07:11
ikonia:(what a shame you have missed your free meal ticket ;)07:11
jussi01yeah07:11
jussi01after the last one, that is a shame07:12
ikoniaand your London "red phone box" keep sake07:12
jussi01(that was the best meal Ive had in a long time)07:12
ikoniaannoying that your in London yet a.) crippled b.) actually not able to interact wit the non-transfer guys07:12
jussi01damn!07:12
ikoniaglad you enjoyed it07:12
ikoniahow is the leg ?07:13
jussi01very sore07:14
jussi01morphine helps but not perfectly07:14
ikoniastill bad then07:16
jussi01yeah07:17
jussi01got to get home and get it assed07:17
jussi01assess07:17
jussi01damn stupid keyboard07:17
jussi01asessed*07:17
ikoniadoes anyone else find it odd that natalisushka: in #ubuntu knows about config files like menu.lst but doesn't know that you can't have more than one running kernel07:47
ikoniaand other basic things like that07:47
ikonia@btlogin07:47
jussi01la de da... Im so bored...08:15
ikoniaI'm about tot get off the train08:16
jussi01where?08:17
ikoniaLondon08:18
ikoniaPaddington08:18
ikonia1 more week of this dump08:18
jussi01come here, buy a flight, hang out with me, then cancel it :P08:18
ikoniaha ha08:18
ikoniaI'll just get my magic credit card then08:18
ikoniaok, power down time, back in 2008:19
jussi01lol ok08:19
Tm_Thi kids08:19
elkbuntuhi pops08:20
bazhangshe's taking a break.08:44
bazhangmaybe better not to talk about that in -ot elkbuntu 08:54
elkbuntubazhang, we could talk about it here instead, where it's logged, and the -ot people will read anyway08:57
bazhangelkbuntu, your call naturally08:58
bazhangjust dont see how it concerns them directly 08:58
bazhangespecially as we ask people with issues here not to discuss them in other channels.08:58
bazhange.g. bans08:59
elkbuntubazhang, i kicked him without a prior warning. i was going to have to explain it to the idiocy advocates anyway08:59
elkbuntuif you want the honest truth bazhang, the people you least want to see that stuff, get to see it all because they hawk the log for this channel, because they're sick sick puppies.09:00
bazhangheh09:00
Sazhi guys09:38
Tm_Twell, hi, how can we help you?09:39
jussi01Hi Saz, how can we help you today?09:39
jussi01LAG!09:39
Tm_Tjussi01: and I'm not even home, so I should be very laggy09:39
Sazwell...i started working at computer store - in Africa. My boss wants to move from pirated XP/Vista to Ubuntu so that he doesnt get into trouble. The general clientele are more microsoft familiar. What i need help with is how to promote ubuntu over XP/Vista & aid them in understanding how ubuntu works without confusing them. Furthemore, how to get additional applcaitions which will spice up their experience with ubuntu09:42
Tm_TSaz: did you read channel topic?09:42
Sazno09:42
Tm_Tplease do (:)09:42
Sazcan u refer me to another channel where i could be helped09:43
jussi01!channels09:43
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:43
Tm_TSaz: sure, #ubuntu is our base support channel09:43
Tm_Tfor more, see what ubottu said09:43
Sazty09:43
bazhangthat seems overly broad for #ubuntu though09:43
Tm_Tbazhang: indeed09:44
Tm_T#ubuntu-marketing perhaps? dunno09:44
elkbuntuSaz, what part of africa?09:46
SazSouth Africa09:47
elkbuntuSaz, since we're discussing this elsewhere, it's probably a good idea to leave this channel to do it's thing. we try to avoid crowding in here, since it makes it hard to deal with people who need Op help.09:51
ikoniabazhang: spongebob has been associated with the user "scrote" he's been a problem in a few channels10:02
bazhangikonia, nice catch, remember 'scrote' well10:04
ikoniaI am sharp  ;)10:05
bazhanghehe10:05
ikoniaI've got a ban on scrote in #ubuntu - think it's on nickname10:05
bazhangbtw, eagles was up to his usual in -ot, caps locking, trying to start flame war etc10:05
ikoniabazhang: I've spent days with him, so my stance with him now is if he starts anything in any channel he's removed straight away10:06
bazhangyep10:06
ikonia5 days of explaining things to him, one on one, he admits he understands but just doesn't want to change, so thats enough for me10:06
ikoniaconsider that a "warning" 10:06
ikoniaI mean I consider that enough of a warning for him about his beahviour10:07
elkbuntuikonia, which is what i did10:12
elkbuntuhe tried to play dumb & innocent too, of course10:12
ikoniagood10:13
Tm_Tmyrtti <3<3<311:05
Myrttihi, just checking how things are going11:05
* Tm_T is failing to make account in nokia.taleo.net11:05
MyrttiI just hate deadlines11:05
Tm_TI too11:05
Myrttianything intresting going on?11:07
Tm_Twell I'm trying to find a possible job11:08
Tm_Tand dns did crap out just now here in university, how convenient11:09
Myrtti*sigh*11:19
Myrttieverything breaks down11:19
Tm_Theh11:20
Tm_Tworks now11:20
Myrttielkbuntu: you'll be surprised when you get the letter :-D11:22
Myrttithe lady at the post office stuck so many stamps on the envelope I was afraid the address would be covered :-D11:22
elkbuntuMyrtti, you didnt stuff it full of glitter, did you? i did that to a friend once, and he opened it while driving home for xmas (rip end off with teeth, blow envelope apart, sparkles!)11:23
elkbuntuMyrtti, haha11:23
Myrttielkbuntu: nono, I stuffed it full with cinnamon, cloves, cardamom, ginger and seville orange peel :-D11:24
Myrttiand raisins11:24
Myrtti:-D11:24
elkbuntuhehe11:24
elkbuntui hope it gets through customs then :-/11:24
Tm_Telkbuntu: biochemical weapon!11:25
MyrttiEEEP!11:25
MyrttiIt'll explode!11:25
* Tm_T hides11:25
Tm_TMyrtti: yes, and sread all lovely odours around11:25
Myrttielkbuntu: I did take a photo of the card before I sent it, so you'll be getting a card in one way or another anyway11:25
elkbuntuhehe11:26
Myrttiwell, handmade cards, I did take a picture of all the designs I did11:26
elkbuntu:)11:28
ikoniahow sweet11:28
Tm_Tsour11:28
MyrttiTm_T: you'll be getting one as well :-)11:28
Tm_Toh boy <311:29
Tm_Tand I don't even "do" christmas'n'stuff11:29
MyrttiI don't decorate at home at all11:29
Myrttithat's why I do the cards11:29
Tm_Thttp://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html11:31
ikoniaI'm decorating my tree tommorow11:33
ikoniaI have one that lives in my garden and each year I bring it in11:33
ikoniaI am "green" 11:33
Myrttisnow snow snow ♥11:36
Tm_Tglad I can do my best to avoid all this "holiday fuss"11:41
Tm_TMyrtti: did you read that blog post?11:42
ikoniaI am enjoying the holiday fuss this year11:42
ikoniafeel in good spirits for christmas11:42
MyrttiTm_T, yeah11:42
MyrttiI've got mixed feelings about that11:43
Tm_Tikonia: I can have good spirits without fuss11:43
Tm_TMyrtti: but interesting case, I would like to know how it ends, anyway11:43
Myrttiyeah, definitely11:43
Tm_Tikonia: "the christmas spirit is not what you drink"11:43
ikoniaoh11:44
Tm_T- Ian Anderson11:44
ikoniain that case I'm not bothered11:44
ikoniajust found a bug in the intrepid upgrades guide11:44
MyrttiWonderful! Just when telco is about to start, the neighbour finds a drill ♥ 11:45
ikoniano I've not11:45
ikoniaworks11:45
* Myrtti feels like crying11:45
* Tm_T huggggles Myrtti 11:47
Myrttiooh aah11:58
Myrttiput a plate full of spaghetti on my chair while I was searching for my handsfree11:58
ikoniadid you sit on it11:58
Myrttitook the plate off and sat on the chair, mmmmm warm seat11:58
Myrttino11:58
ikoniaoh :(11:59
Myrttialso my subwoofer is nice and warm to keep my feet on it11:59
jussi01hrm, new android phone - form australia!!!! looks ok... http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/android-powered-kogan-agora-pro-mobile-phone/12:03
Myrttinom12:08
Myrttianyway, if there wasn't anything particular going on that I should be aware of, I'm gone12:13
Myrttitata12:13
geniiGood morning, afternoon, or evening 14:40
Jack_SparrowHello14:40
* genii hands Jack_Sparrow a Tim Horton's coffee14:40
Jack_SparrowYum, thanks...14:41
ikoniahowdy gn14:41
ikoniagenii: even14:41
geniiikonia: Hi :)14:41
* genii pokes jussi01 to see if he lives14:47
Jack_Sparrowgenii I get my coffee from a guy across the border that roasts and seasons his coffee by hand.. Himself wife and daughter.  So good...14:49
ikoniagenii: he's on a flight shortly14:49
ikoniagenii: he's sat at London Heathrow airport14:49
Jack_SparrowDo any of you play with MAME emulation?  I am building a box for it now..14:50
geniiikonia: Ah, thanks14:54
* genii ponders coffee seasoning14:55
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: /dev/mapper/vg00-emmulation--vol 80G   18G   63G  23% /mnt/emu YES !14:57
Jack_SparrowReally.. you run a mame setup?15:15
ikoniayup15:15
Jack_SparrowCool.15:15
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: working on intergrating it into myth at the moment15:15
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: my myth clients can launch mame15:15
ikoniahence the large central repo15:15
Jack_SparrowMay we talk in private, I would hate to put genii to sleep15:16
ikoniaplease, always welcome to pm15:16
Jack_Sparrowgenii He roasts the coffee just right and for my favorite, puts a cup of Kalua over it and roasts until it soaks in.. yummy15:17
geniiHah, don't mind me :) 15:17
geniiJack_Sparrow: Nice15:18
geniiHehe. "this partimage doesn't have some gui must be installed wrong" "No, it *is* a command-line app" "Oh no"            ... to paraphrase16:30
LjLyeah, quite depressing16:30
PiciI suppose I'll be attending the Community Governance session as an IRC representitive.17:41
ikoniagood !17:41
jpdsPici: Yo. (Even tho you're sitting a seat away from me.)17:45
Piciyo17:45
geniiWeirdos17:47
ikoniaha ha17:47
ikoniaPici: jpds ar eyou guys getting some good photos17:48
PiciNo17:49
ikoniayou suck then, please fix that17:49
Piciikonia: We're not allowed to take photos inside the Google buildings.17:49
jpdsikonia: Don't have a camera, and they're banned at Google.17:49
ikoniaooh for the love of.17:49
jpdsikonia: But we have plenty of video.17:49
ikoniahow fun google are17:49
Nafallohehe. all the datacenters say stuff like that as well17:49
Piciikonia: The main sessions are all being videoed though.17:49
ikonia"we are wacky and off the wall, we think out side the box....NO CAMERA!"17:49
Nafalloin reality... who cares? :-P17:50
ikoniaPici: not the same, 17:50
Piciikonia: I know :(17:50
ikoniaNafallo: data centers are not a office/meeting point though17:50
jpdsikonia: We take plenty of pics at the hotel.17:50
Nafalloikonia: meeting point sometimes, but yea. I know what you mean :-)17:50
ikoniajpds: thats more like it17:51
ikoniajpds: bit of fun shots and sillyness was waht I was lookign for17:51
ikoniawow google truly are free thinking off the wall coperation....with rules like that, host a conference - but no photos17:51
geniiData centers make bad meeting places, the fans whirring drills into your brain and makes for horrible background noise to talk over17:51
jpdsikonia: Well, they've probably saved Canonical a load of cash by letting them come here.17:52
ikonianot the point17:52
ikonianot the point I was making I mean17:52
jpdsAnd there are two video cameras in every room.17:53
geniiLook, this zaapiel fellow in #u-offtopic is giving me a slow burn here since I'm of native descent18:29
=== ryanakca_ is now known as ryanakca
* genii puts on another pot of coffee19:12
ikonialazy: how can we help19:46
lazyunban me from ubuntu19:47
lazyi am trying to get help on ubuntu but you ban me19:48
lazyi am trying for 4 hour to figure out my problem19:48
lazypfffffffffffffffff19:49
lazyikonia, why you have ban me?19:50
lazywhy you waste my time?19:50
lazyi haven't break an rule on ubuntu19:50
lazyto get banned19:50
lazyso be patient, and unban me19:51
lazycan please someone else help me, i dont need help from ikonia19:58
lazy:D19:58
lazyLjl19:59
lazyunban me please from ubuntu19:59
naliothlazy: attitude is everything.19:59
naliothplease come back in 24 hours19:59
lazynalioth19:59
lazyyou are jokeing with me?19:59
lazywhy do i need to come back in 24 hours?19:59
naliothbecause your ban probably won't be removed before then20:00
lazyi will never come back here.20:00
lazynalioth, will my ban expire in24 hours?20:01
lazyi dont want20:01
lazyto chat with you that with tha kind of virtual peoples20:01
lazyi prefer the real contact.20:02
LjLlazy, more than lazy you sound crazy20:03
lazyLjL, why you all remark my nickname all the time?20:04
=== lazy is now known as someone
someonedose not import20:04
=== someone is now known as Guest21598
LjLnor export, nor include nor link20:04
Guest21598LjL: listen, i do not want to waste my time with converstating with you about my20:04
Guest21598person20:05
LjLthen don't20:05
Guest21598please set20:05
Guest21598that my ban will expire automaticaly becouse i dont want to conversate with you20:05
LjLplease make me a cheesecake20:06
Guest21598lol20:07
Guest21598i should came back and talk with remove my ban etc. etc.20:07
jpdsLjL: You forgot to add the magic word.20:07
LjLGuest21598, not only you aren't making any sense20:08
LjLbut also, you aren't making any sense20:08
Guest21598i have no reason for my ban20:08
LjLcome back when you can make more sense20:08
Guest21598LjL, unban me please from ubuntu20:08
Guest21598some ikonia ban me 20:09
Guest21598i have tried to speak with some user from ubuntu, but he banned me20:10
Jack_SparrowGuest21598 The ban will be reviewed in 24 hours..  You are not helping your cause by staying in here 20:10
Guest21598what sens do you make?20:10
Guest21598Jack_Sparrow: i am not sure20:11
Jack_SparrowGuest21598 Not sure of what.. It will be reviewed..  that is for sure..  20:13
Guest21598mde20:14
Guest21598i have entered here to get help, and ops are blaming me, you a crazy etc.20:15
Guest21598:D20:15
Guest21598why you people are so bad?20:15
Guest21598jack_sparrow ok20:15
LjL@mark guest21598 Makes no sense. This is "sergiu" and "nick1", who's also just been in #fedora making very little sense20:16
ubottuThe operation succeeded.20:16
geniiHe's now in -offtopic, be warned20:20
genii"LSD1"20:20
=== hateyou is now known as Smile
LjLchanging many more nicknames?20:32
LjL!nickspam20:32
ubottuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead. See also « /msg ubottu Guidelines »20:32
SmileHi20:32
Smilei can enter the #ubuntu20:33
LjLno20:33
Smilei mean, can't20:33
LjLjust like you coulnd't 10 minute ago20:33
Smileanyone know why?20:33
LjLSmile: ...?20:33
sschoonmakerno one is helping me and I don't want to have to downgrade to 8.04 :((20:34
Smilewhy i can't enter the #ubuntu?20:34
LjLbecause you're banned?20:34
PiciSmile: You aren't fooling anyone by changing your nick.20:34
LjLSmile: and you aren't *helping* anyone, either20:34
Smilei have been banned? yes?20:34
Smilewhy?20:34
LjLsschoonmaker: and what can we do?20:34
sschoonmakeryou guys are smart right, can you help with glx?  20:34
Smilecan i be unbanned?20:35
sschoonmakeror maybe what do I do if nobody answers in #ubuntu20:35
LjLsschoonmaker: no, i'm afraid this is not a support channel20:35
LjLSmile: NO20:35
LjLEN, OH20:35
SmileLJL, NO?20:35
LjL!support | sschoonmaker you can try one of these other routes20:35
ubottusschoonmaker you can try one of these other routes: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org20:35
Smilewhy did you banned me?20:36
Smileor 20:37
Smilei should not ask this question20:37
LjLSmile: because you've been disrespectful and annoying. but you know that already.20:37
Smilethe operators can ban for no reason, yeah?20:37
SmileLjL, sorry, how is this that i was been annoiyng?20:37
LjLSmile: aside from pestering soundray for half an hour, you mean...?20:37
* LjL blinks20:38
Smilewhat does mean "pestering" ?20:40
LjLSmile: you didn't just PM him, did you?20:40
Smilewho? soundray? 20:40
LjLya20:40
Smilenope20:41
LjLkay20:41
LjLpester means to bother or annoy deeply20:41
Smileis he sick?20:41
LjLi don't think so?20:42
SmileLjL, i don't understand what is the matter20:42
LjLSmile, you were annoying. that is the matter. soundray said that he would stop helping you. ikonia said to drop the issue. you didn't. you kept arguing. eventually, you just insulted all channel users.20:43
LjLthat's not acceptable.20:43
SmileLJL, sorry, how is that that i insulted channel users?20:44
Smilei did not.20:44
LjL2008-12-10T19:41:42 <lazy> off20:45
LjL2008-12-10T19:41:45 <lazy> stupid people.20:45
Smilei said this in channel?20:45
Smile:DD20:45
* Smile mde20:45
LjLi don't find it very funny. do you?20:45
Smilecan't be..20:45
Smileme not20:46
Smilei don't belive, i have said this in channel?20:46
LjLi do believe so.20:46
LjLi have logs and i can read.20:46
Smilecan't belive to that i said this20:46
Smileyeah..20:47
Smilebad20:47
SmileLjL, 20:48
Smilemaybe i say this in private?20:48
Smileor in channel?20:48
Hobbseein channel, people are watching, maybe?20:49
Smilei think that have said this in someone private but don't think that i said this in channe,l20:49
LjLyou did.20:49
Smilei still can belive.20:49
Smilerofl20:49
Smilecan't20:49
LjLeh, you're free to believe what you want20:50
LjLyou've also very free to stop wasting my time20:50
Smilerofl20:50
SmileLjl, don't be fool20:50
Smile )20:50
Hobbsee@btlogin'20:50
LjLSmile, come back in 24 hours. your ban won't be lifted at the present time.20:51
Smileok20:51
Hobbsee@btlogin20:51
SmileLjL, i think i should not come in 24 hours, this is unforgivebel20:52
Smile..20:52
Smileok,thanks20:53
LjLoh lord.20:53
Pici@btlogin20:57
* Seeker` facedesks20:58
geniiWell, never any lack of entertainment around here, anyhow20:59
LjLyou could look at it that way i suppose21:00
Jack_SparrowHow can we possibly say that is the same person.. he has a different nick after all  :)21:00
LjLJack_Sparrow: which different nick are you referring to, among the 10 he's had?21:01
Jack_Sparrow:)21:01
ikoniaapologises my connection dropped21:05
LjLikonia: HOW CONVENIENT21:06
LjL:P21:06
ikoniashut up21:06
geniiHehehe21:06
ikoniafor some reason my connection dropped for half the train ride21:07
ikonianever done that before21:07
ikoniajust got through the door21:07
Flannelyou're really starting to bore.21:08
LjLikonia: did they upgrade the line to super-high speed and they didn't tell you?21:08
Jack_Sparrowikonia Lose the tinfoil hat...  It may help21:08
* Flannel only now thinks of better rhymes.21:09
Jack_SparrowFlannel Did you get that windstorm yesterday.. it was outrageous down here21:10
Jack_SparrowI still have not found the car cover21:10
FlannelJack_Sparrow: I don't think it was that windy, but I was in rooms without much window area/view for most of the day, so...21:11
geniiikonia: Anyhow, the channel log for here is probably interesting reading during your absense21:18
ikoniaI've just been scrolling up and chuckling watching LjL struggle21:19
ikoniaenjoy !21:19
ikoniacouldn't have timed it better21:19
nalioththey're all the same person21:19
ikoniaI know21:19
ikoniahe was pretty rude to me in pm too21:19
ikoniahe joined here after I said I wouldn't discuss it futher while he was using "fuk u" style comments21:20
ikonia@bansearch hwilde21:23
ubottuNo matches found for hwilde!n=hwilde@64.58.242.11 in any channel21:23
ikoniaahh good it's removed21:23
ubottuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (JOHNNY_BOI)21:47
FlannelWhy are people stupid?21:48
Nafallocomes with the upbring. their mothers and fathers are probably idiots too.21:49
* Flannel sometimes regrets the illegality of forced castration based on idiocy.21:50
geniiIf ignorance is bliss, why aren't there a lot of really happy people out there?21:53
jdonggenii: because you have to spread ignorance for it to work.21:56
geniiInteresting theor21:57
genii*theory21:57
LjLjdong: fess up, saying that just made you a little happier21:57
jdongLjL: *NO* I wanted to turn it into a STD analogy but thought better.21:58
jdongI was hoping you'd be proud of me for that...21:58
geniiHeh21:58
jdong;-)21:58
geniiI gotta head home, so /away   ...21:58
LjL[23:21:45] <-- ompaul has left this server ("an sql query walked up to two tables and asked, can I join you?  (the old ones are best)").22:23
LjLok, what length ban?22:23
Pici:P22:31
PiciFYI, Expect something from the CC regarding the IRCC.22:35
phixG'day22:42
Jack_Sparrowphix how may we help you22:43
Jack_Sparrow!idle22:44
ubottuPlease keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.22:44
phixI would love to go into #Ubuntu22:53
Jack_Sparrow@bansearch phix22:56
Jack_Sparrowphix Should I assume you were banned22:57
Jack_SparrowYou were banned yesterday by ljl.. you need to speak with him about it22:58
Jack_Sparrow!idle > phix 22:59
ubottuphix, please see my private message22:59
phixok23:08
phixI will go then23:09
LjLwhat's hard to grasp in the expression "a few days"23:10
Jack_SparrowWe have jason_ idling as well..  Has anyone spoken withhim/her23:12
Jack_Sparrow!idle > jason_ 23:15
ubottujason_, please see my private message23:15
PiciJason is jrib iirc.23:16
Jack_SparrowAhhh..  23:16
Jack_Sparrowty23:16
Jack_SparrowHe joined right next to phix.. so I wasnt sure23:17
LjLno, he isn't23:21
PiciOh?23:21
Pici@bansearch jason_ 23:21
ubottuNo matches found for jason_!n=jason@24-176-23-13.dhcp.klmz.mi.charter.com in any channel23:21
LjLPici: realname isn't jrib's23:21
PiciAh.23:22
PiciI didn't look any closer.23:22
geniiPici: You guys still at that meeting?23:22
Picigenii: Which?23:22
geniiPici: I thought you were in Mountainview at Google or so23:23
Picigenii: I am.  UDS is not just one meeting, its a weeklong series of meetings.23:23
Seeker`geektastic23:24
geniiHehe23:24
PiciThe schedule is here: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-jaunty/23:25
PiciAlso, #ubuntu-devel-summit23:26
geniiIf someone just basically fed me to do it, I'd probably do more development stuff23:26
Picigenii: Google is feeding us for free23:28
geniiPici: Geez, don't tell me stuff like that!23:29
LjL-Simmonswas this just me disconnecting...?23:30
PriceChildyep23:30
LjL-Simmonsweird23:31
LjLBuZZ-T: hi, can we help?23:35
BuZZ-Tno thx23:35
BuZZ-Tsry, just wanted to know whats this channel is about23:35
BuZZ-T*what23:35
LjLok23:36
nalioth"same as any other channel with -ops tacked on the end of it"23:42
naliothduh23:42
mneptoktwo red circles and a thick black spot.23:53

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