[00:05] tjaalton: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83221/ [00:08] bryce_: yeah, looks very good [01:15] bryce_: xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.0.99+git20080912-0ubuntu6 appears to do really evil stuff (bug 303228) [01:15] Launchpad bug 303228 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev "[jaunty] all entries (also passwords!) logged to terminal underlying the X server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303228 [01:16] kees: they should have 2.1 [01:17] er, that and xserver 1.5.3 [01:23] tjaalton: oh! sorry, I meant, version 2.1 seems to do evil stuff for them [01:23] kees: yes, without 1.5.3 :) [01:23] aaah [01:23] weird. [01:23] tjaalton: can you answer and close that report? [01:24] kees: yes, I've replied and following it [01:25] the depends should probably be tightened [01:41] tjaalton: cool, thx [05:22] tjaalton: are you enabling DRI2 in the new xserver build? [07:07] bryce: yep [07:07] hmm, wrong bryce [16:55] interesting, the new mesa and/or kernel makes my intel dog slow after resume [16:57] I had such behaviour yesterday night (but I had no new mesa) after the x11proto-dri2 updated [16:58] the proto is irrelevant [16:58] for instance switch between chans in xchat was sloooow [16:58] protos are just headers [16:58] and only needed for building stuff [16:58] tjaalton: while I remember it, you can remove that Xsession.d_65mesa-check-x86-64 hook from mesa now. [16:58] tormod: cool, thanks [16:59] tjaalton, ah okay, perhaps some bits elsewhere [16:59] hmm, now after trying to change the vt everything else is snappy but the mouse :) [17:00] bryce_: yes, dri2 is enabled [17:01] there's a new beta, I'll pull that and the one patch from the proposed set that thomas jaeger suggested [17:03] tjaalton: kewl [17:05] Do we have the right mesa stuff for DRI2? [17:05] wgrant: yes [17:06] but there's an "intel-q4" -branch that I'm not sure what it contains [17:06] nor when it's going to be merged in master [17:08] maybe jesse knows [17:32] superm1: jesse's patch is packaged for hardy - http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/Intel-Bug297245/ [19:00] tjaalton: we have our X session right now [19:02] great [19:03] hey [19:06] wgrant: btw we're having the X session at this time (in Bragi) [19:07] wgrant: btw we're having the X session at this time (in Bragi) [20:09] bryce_: Argh, I didn't see that (due to the fixed width layout being chopped off), and went to identity management instead. [20:10] wgrant: well, we can rehash the topics over a beer or so ;) [20:11] there's a gobby document about what was discussed (xorg-jaunty) [20:12] federico1: it doesn't work? [20:25] solarion: what doesn't work? [20:41] federico1: I dunno. You were saying it, not me. (trelane on #gnome-hackers) [21:32] tormod: hi [21:34] shirish: hi, got your keyboard sorted out? :) [21:35] tormod: no, I'm on Intrepid atm [21:35] tormod: it works when I go single, but not when I'm on the GUI [21:35] see my mail [21:35] tormod: saw it [21:36] didn't help? [21:37] tormod: still trying to figure out what to do next. [21:37] you installed evdev from the ppa, as the Warning said? [21:39] tormod: there is no warning of that sort on the PPA [21:39] tormod: https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive [21:40] you don't get the "PPA whiteboard" in fading blue? [21:41] are you logged into lp? [21:41] tormod: I'm logged into lp [21:42] hmm it's a problem that not everybody see the page as I do... [21:42] tormod: what do you mean "PPA whiteboard" in fading blue, where I should be looking [21:43] on top, under the two lines "PPA for..." and "URL:..." [21:43] before "Xorg packages pretty fresh..." [21:44] tormod: nope, don't see anything therein [21:44] oops I have to fix that. anyway, I posted this in the phoronix thread as well. [21:45] tormod: cool, also aren't there two evdev packages? [21:46] no? [21:46] I updated the PPA page now! [21:47] tormod: I refreshed and now do see some additional info. [21:48] tormod: thank you [21:48] tormod: as far as the evdev packages I meant there is :- [21:48] xserver-xorg-input-evdev - 1:2.1.0~git-0ubuntu0tormod [21:48] and [21:48] xserver-xorg-input-evdev - 1:2.0.99+git20080726.53e75257-0ubuntu0tormod [21:48] tormod: which of the two to choose? [21:48] for Intrepid? [21:49] tormod: for jaunty [21:49] one is for Jaunty the other for Hardy... [21:49] see the Series column [21:49] tormod: ah, so I just have to install xserver-xorg-input-evdev and it would do the needful :) [21:50] tormod: ah yes, my fault [21:50] tormod: ok rebooting in jaunty now, installing that and see if I can get it working :) [21:50] tormod: thank you for your guidance so far. [21:57] tormod: I am on jaunty and xserver-xorg-input-evdev has been already installed [21:58] tormod: dunno whether its from the ppa or otherwise [21:58] be back in a moment [21:58] shirish: you need the ppa version. [21:58] tormod: would check it apt-cache policy should tell me [21:59] bbiaw [21:59] * bryce_ waves to tormod [22:00] * tormod waves back to bryce_ [22:00] o/ [22:01] tormod: I am guessing just purging xserver-xorg-input-evdev and installing it would get it from the ppa or do I have to give some specific path or something? [22:02] shirish: either download the debs directly from the PPA page, [22:02] or install with apt-get install package=version [22:03] tormod: but apt-cache shows me both the archive and the one therein as same [22:03] shirish: pastebin? [22:03] I would have to log out and log back in [22:03] bbiaw [22:07] tjaalton: did you sort out the MAP_ANON breaking mesa on lpia? [22:08] tormod: not yet, no idea what's going on.. but apparently it shouldn't even be built on armel and I'm fixing that now [22:08] armel failed the same way [22:09] did you ask some kernel guys? [22:10] nope, not yet [22:10] I saw there is discussion about dropping lpia altogether... [22:10] yes, finally [22:13] googling tells me ANON_MAP was deprecated long time ago [22:13] "use "MAP_ANONYMOUS" instead" [22:16] tormod: thank you, I'm in jaunty and everything is cool :) [22:16] but then the failing main/execmem.c has #ifndef MAP_ANONYMOUS [22:16] #define MAP_ANONYMOUS MAP_ANON [22:16] #endif [22:16] so it seems MAP_ANONYMOUS is missing on lpia... [22:17] shirish: nice! do you run DRI2? [22:17] tormod: I have no idea what DRI2 is ? [22:18] tormod: thanks, I'll ask around! [22:18] shirish: well it should make glxgears follow the cube when you spin it :) [22:19] tormod: wouldn't that be for newer hardware, not for ancient chipsets like mine i845 which has a measly 8 MB of RAM [22:19] tormod: on the chipset I mean [22:19] shirish: oh yes, that's only for i915 I guess [22:20] but 3D acceleration works? [22:20] tormod: another small issue though, I do get this message, No command 33 has been defined with window named Metacity every now and then. [22:21] tormod: also when I installed the xserver-xorg-input-evdev from the ppa it downgraded the version [22:21] shirish: I get it every time I hit Up-arrow (which I usually use all the time, on the command line as well in the browser). PITA especially when I keep the key down and I get 100 metacity dialogs... [22:22] tormod: yup, it has something to do with the terminal [22:22] tormod: same here [22:22] Yes, that's the catch. the needed ppa version has been superseeded by the main package which will not work. [22:23] I will need to bump the version, or just wait for Timo to push a rebuilt evdev in main. [22:24] tormod: yup, something has to be done, till that time can't do any normal upgrades otherwise the one which doesn't work will come up. [22:24] once xserer 1.6beta is uploaded, all drivers will be rebuilt because of the abi bumps [22:24] *xserver [22:24] http://pastebin.com/f3f589827 [22:24] tormod: now as it stands [22:24] shirish: yes that how it should be [22:25] tormod: ok cool, so this works, so I guess just need to be patient till next week. [22:25] I don't want to bump the version now, since the rebuilt main version might be just -build1 and I want it to supersede mine [22:26] you can upgrade all other packages, except -evdev and -synaptics [22:27] tormod: what I would like to do now is to downgrade to all the packages in main, wait for next week when the xserver-xorg which is there in the PPA as well as the driver and see if the problem persists [22:29] you mean the keyboard mapping issue? yes I wonder if Timo also will be bitten by this. [22:29] tormod: yup [22:29] tormod: now the final thing how to get back to where I was, with others in archives, purging all the packages from the PPA and getting back to main [22:29] shirish: but if you run "setxkbmap -model evdev " it helps a lot [22:30] oh my, try setxkbmap first :) [22:31] I did that, what is supposed to be happen with this? [22:31] the wrong key mapping should be better. It helped me make PgUp/down work. [22:31] tormod: I still get the No command 33 has been defined with window error in terminal [22:32] only the damn up-key is still broken [22:32] right [22:32] you don't need to purge, just apt-get install package=version where version is the official version [22:33] tormod: what about the drm-modules-2.6.28-2-ub-generic that was installed [22:33] tormod: shouldn't that be purged? [22:33] tormod: bitten by what exactly? [22:34] tjaalton: with the 1.6 server there's some funkiness with evdev, wrong keymapping, undefined keys so metacity complains etc [22:35] tormod: hum, ok.. thanks for the heads-up then [22:35] what should I do about drm-modules package which I configured and then installed http://pastebin.com/f5faa0a9f [22:35] shirish: just uninstall it [22:36] tormod: right ok cool [22:36] tormod: thank you for all your help [22:36] bbl [22:36] the drm-modules-somekernelversion [22:36] tormod: right [22:36] you can keep the drm-module-source package [22:36] you're welcome [22:37] there is drm-modules-source and drm-modules as well [22:37] tormod: you might want to ping whot on #xorg-devel about these issues [22:43] tjaalton: I first thought I missed something in the merge, like the fdi files, but I am not sure. Don't have time to look at it now. [22:44] evdev ships no fdi-files [22:44] at least our evdev shouldn't [22:44] the debian one does, since they don't have the necessary plumbing in place just yet [22:45] or all the debian patches I just ditched because they didn't apply... [22:46] hmm, my evdev does ship a 10-x11-evdev.fdi [22:48] tormod: that's probably it then [22:48] at least worth to check out [22:49] tjaalton: You broke my video! [22:49] It's flickering constantly now :( [22:49] wgrant: congrats! [22:49] I think I might have deleted it, because I don't see it, only in dpkg -L [22:50] wgrant: the new mesa? [22:50] tjaalton: Possibly. I'll turn off Compiz. [22:51] tjaalton: No, still broken with metacity. [22:51] Hmm. [22:51] is it with -intel? my 965 works now, with the old kernel [22:51] try with .27 [22:51] i915, -intel, yep. [22:51] .28 breaks stuff for me [22:51] I can't, my root is ext4 and I mounted with .28 a couple of weeks ago so can't mount with .27 any more. [22:52] .28 worked fine for ages. [22:52] tjaalton: I see now in .bash_history (better than brain) that I moved the fdi away to check. [22:52] Oh. [22:53] It's getting the EDID lots, so I presume something is RandRing lots. [22:53] hmm, sounds like some app going crazy then [22:53] wgrant: KDE? [22:53] and you should be able to back out to ext3 btw [22:53] Possibly. I'll check what else I upgraded. [22:53] tormod: No, GNOME. [22:53] tjaalton: Not once it has a file with extents. [22:54] The new kernel is fine. [22:54] wgrant: ah, ok [22:54] well my intel goes crazy with the new kernel. [22:54] -1 froze after suspend. -2 works fine. [22:55] after resume it just slows down, until you change to a vt (which will bounce back), and then everything is snappy except the mouse which is really jerky [22:59] Aha. [22:59] It's g-s-d being crap. [23:00] hehe [23:00] * tormod says good night [23:44] tjaalton: It's not just g-s-d's fault - something seems to go wrong when things anything does some kind of xrandr stuff. I'm trying to work it out. [23:44] (aplogies for atrocious typing, I can't read the screen too well) [23:44] Or maybe it's because X is freezing and missing keystrokes. [23:45] heh