[00:00] <catmando> or the other way round?
[00:00] <fallore> My firefox window is giving me a lot of trouble. When I open it is is maximized full screen (an on top of the top and bottom panel) and missing the title bar containing the minimize, maximize and close buttons. All methods of resizing it (Alt + Shift, Alt + Click, F11, etc) that I've tried thus far have failed. Can anyone help me restore my FF back to normal?
[00:00] <eternaljoy> catmando: use the 8.04 ALTERNATIVE CD
[00:00] <onetinsoldier> i should say that i fixed up the Makefile so it will compile on x86_64.. left that out
[00:00] <jabop> fallore: ie4linux
[00:00] <eternaljoy> catmando: use the 8.04 ALTERNATIVE CD and tell it to use VLM encryption during install
[00:00] <jabop> w00t
[00:00] <catmando> eternaljoy: yeah i am
[00:00] <fallore> jabop: if you're suggesting a different browser i'd rather not, thanks
[00:01] <catmando> eternaljoy: i need a specific setup
[00:01] <eternaljoy> catmando: during install... choose VLM encryption
[00:01] <eternaljoy> catmando: easy as that
[00:01] <catmando> eternaljoy: i guess it's actually a theoretical question
[00:01] <eternaljoy> catmando: you dont need anything... during install... choose VLM encryption
[00:01] <catmando> eternaljoy: it is mighty easy, but i like to know
[00:02] <eternaljoy> is there a way to install 8.10 using inode 128?   previous versions uses inode 128, but 8.10 uses inode 256!  Anyone?
[00:02] <gbear14275> does anyone know if dma is enabled by default in 8.10
[00:02] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey. i want to remap my caps lock key to the super (win) key since i don't have one. how do i do this in intrepid?
[00:02] <anto9us> fallore, alt+f7 and alt+f8 will allow you to move and resize respectively
[00:02] <fallore> anto9us: neither of those do anything.
[00:03] <jabop> fallore: alt+click and drag will work too
[00:03] <fallore> jabop: i said that that doesn't work
[00:03] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[00:03] <jabop> oh
[00:03] <jabop> alt+f4
[00:03] <anto9us> fallore, alt+space brings up the window menu?
[00:03] <fallore> anto9us: yes, but clicking reside or move doesn't matter
[00:04] <anto9us> fallore, are you using compiz?
[00:04] <fallore> anto9us: no
[00:04] <exodus_ms> eternaljoy, did you try man mke2fs
[00:05] <fallore> anto9us: actually, i might've been. had appearance effects on "normal" and changing it to none fixed the problem.
[00:06] <mikebeecham> is there an irc channel that I can get help with Banshee?
[00:06] <anto9us> fallore, yeah, sometimes compiz needs a restart
[00:06] <vahnx> i got a corrupt file in windows on an external drive and it doesnt delete in ubuntu. i ran windows chkdsk but didnt fix it
[00:07] <bolinec> Quick question about a mouse if someone has a chance.
[00:07] <vahnx> in ubuntu it shows up as 30mb in windows like 20 gigs
[00:07] <nnull> guys im trying to get my 64meg tnt ultra pro working on my TV, im using the nvidia legacy drivers, but whenever i try use the card on my tv, once it boots into login screen the screen is morphed and theres no mouse, and max is 60hertz.. any help?
[00:08] <vahnx> whats the ubuntu check disk command?
[00:08] <vahnx> fsck nvm
[00:08] <exodus_ms> eternaljoy, is this what you want to do --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83224/
[00:08] <dr_willis> vahnx,  what filesystem is the external drive using?
[00:08] <bolinec> So my mouse issue: I have a sony vaio all in one (pos). It has an RF mouse and keyboard.  The Keyboard works fine, the mouse does not.  When I check /dev/inputs/event2 I see data when the buttons are clicked, but not when the mouse is moved.  Could these events be at another location?
[00:09] <dr_willis> bolinec,  could test out /dev/input/mice or other similer names.
[00:10] <bolinec> yeah, I've tried everything in the inputs dir.
[00:10] <bolinec> Evil evil sony mouse.
[00:10] <anto9us> nnull, I remember having a similar issue once, run nvidia-settings I think that has the power to resolve things for you,
[00:10] <nuts> hi, my acer aspire 5520 webcam no longer works, it was working fine when i first installed ibex.. i'm sure i have not uninstalled any cam drivers... but now all apps that uses cam gives me no cam found..
[00:10] <nnull> anto9us¬ ok cheers ill try that
[00:11] <anto9us> nuts, is the webcam enabled? try disabling/enabling and see what dmesg says about it
[00:11] <Aggrav8d> hello, everybody!  I'm a retarded sysadmin.  Do I need to start getting ready for DNSSEC now, or do I have to wait for TLDs to implement it first?
[00:12] <albert_fish>  http://pastebin.com/m60af6753 i tryed to set up windows because linux does not yet support my printer and now ive lost grub,following the direction available onine does not work to restore grub
[00:12] <computer> i am logged in as a regular user, what do i type in terminal to become admin(not root)? so i can apt-get update
[00:12] <anto9us> computer, sudo apt-get update
[00:12] <exodus_ms> !sudo > computer
[00:12] <nuts> anto9us, usually with cheese it turns on automatically.. i see no way to turn it on or off otherwise
[00:13] <dr_willis> computer,  'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'    Your differeance between admin and root is.. err.. not correct
[00:13] <igorw> You guys know of any good mail archiving software?
[00:13] <chyea> hey all. is there a way to make "ls" list directories first?
[00:14] <computer> sudo apt-get update asks for the password of current user and not the admin account
[00:14] <anto9us> nuts, usually Fn and one of the F(number) keys
[00:14] <corinth> Is there a way to check the md5sum of a burned disc?
[00:14] <Pici> !verify | corinth
[00:14] <dr_willis> computer,  there is no root password..  the initial user has 'sudo' rights.. and yes it will want their password.
[00:14] <computer> user123  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported
[00:14] <anto9us> nuts, also try ekiga, cheese doesn't work properly with my built in webcam sometimes where ekiga sees it fine
[00:14] <corinth> Thanks, Pici
[00:15] <jrib> computer: 'su - ADMIN_ACCOUNT' to login as ADMIN_ACCOUNT then
[00:15] <anto9us> computer, you're not in the admin group
[00:15] <dr_willis> computer,  I guess you could call the 'first' user you made the admin account.. but its rarely called that..
[00:15] <nuts> anto9us, ekiga also reports no cam
[00:15] <kristian1> i have to mount /dev/sdb1 to /HDD and make it remain there even if i reboot, i can't get it to work! any help is very much appreciated!
[00:16] <dr_willis> kristian1,  make a proper entry in /etc/fstab for the device.
[00:16] <nuts> anto9us, also no Fn keys to turn on/off cam
[00:16] <anto9us> nuts, it's a built in webcam?
[00:16] <catmando> erm
[00:16] <scientes> i have a feeling that ubuntu stores system time as local time which is idiotic, how can i check and change this
[00:16] <catmando> does anyone know how to pass pageup to irssi from a macbook?
[00:16] <DanaG> Windows likes it that way, so Ubuntu does it that way for compatibility.
[00:16] <nuts> anto9us, yes built in.. it worked fine when i first installed ibex.. it's an acer crystal eye cam
[00:17] <scientes> but windows can be changed easily
[00:17] <scientes> windows only did it for compadibility too
[00:17] <scientes> with dos
[00:17] <rww> catmando: Fn+Up Arrow usually works for me o.O
[00:17] <calc> scientes: i'm prety sure it asks you on install
[00:17] <dr_willis> so we are grandfathered back all the way to the stone age. :)
[00:17] <kristian1> dr_willis : that's the problem! :( i added "/dev/sdb1 /HDD ext3 defaults 0 0" to etc/fstab, and the hdd will be there, but after rebooting, it no long is used, only the main hdd is used. any thoughts?
[00:17] <anto9us> nuts, I'm guessing there should be a key combination to enable/disable then
[00:17] <albert_fish> ﻿ dr_willis can you take a look at this? ive asked a few times without getting assitence and ive noticed you are one of the more helpfull people on here over the last year+? so ifigured id ask you http://pastebin.com/m60af6753 i tryed to set up windows because linux does not yet support my printer and now ive lost grub,following the direction available onine does not work to restore grub
[00:18] <catmando> rww: yeah that's what I thought, but it's not doing it
[00:18] <catmando> rww: i wonder if going through screen is what's messing it up
[00:18] <igorw> kristian1 did you created /HDD directory?
[00:18] <calc> scientes: set it in /etc/default/rcS and then set the time like you want (i think)
[00:18] <DanaG> http://jvliet.blogspot.com/2006/10/ubuntu-system-clock-setting-for-utc.html
[00:18] <dr_willis> kristian1,  you did somthing wrong then.. or you got somthing else going on.  what do you mean by 'the main hdd' ?  also - its best to use the UUID= type nameing features that way the same hd always gets mounted to the same place.
[00:18] <DanaG> oops, lemme switch into screen.
[00:18] <storrgie> Is there a good web editor that will connect to my site using ssh?
[00:19] <storrgie> i mean server
[00:19] <kristian1> igor : yes i already made the dir
[00:19] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: gedit? :-)
[00:19] <dr_willis> kristian1,  if you add that line to fstab.. it wont 'be' there untill you reboot, or run 'sudo mount -a' or 'sudo mount /HDD'     so you need to clarify what exactly its doing I guess
[00:19] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: its a headless box, i want to edit the files over ssh
[00:20] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: yes,  create a "connect to server" connection via sftp (ssh), and then edit with gedit
[00:20] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: how do you do that? I know how to do sftp but dont know how to use it.
[00:20] <kristian1> dr_willis : will try
[00:21] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: so start with the "connect to server" and if you plan to do this alot, i recommend creating a bookmark
[00:21] <Bluebus112> Is there any way to limit the download speed when downloading updates and such on ubuntu since it uses my max and I need some for something else I'm doing
[00:21] <musikgoat|main> let me know if you get that accomplished
[00:22] <Tomay> hi every body
[00:22] <nuts> anto9us, just checked the fn keys sheet for this laptop..and no fn key for cam
[00:22] <Tomay> I have a big problem wen booting from ubuntu 8.10 DVD
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> hello there Tomay
[00:23] <Tomay> end-request : I/0 error, dev sr0, sector 138652
[00:23] <Tomay> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0, logical block 346125
[00:23] <Tomay> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllppppppppppppppp
[00:24] <Pici> Tomay: Don't do that, people have already seen your question
[00:24] <InYourBase> Tomay: Sounds like it didn't burn properly
[00:24] <rww> Tomay: Is there an option on the DVD's boot menu to verify it? if so, do that.
[00:24] <Tomay> sorry Pici
[00:24] <icicle99> my openSUSE installation hangs at "Mounting CD/DVD drive..."   what to do now ?
[00:25] <Tomay> so thame problem when try to verify the DVD
[00:25] <ninix> hi, anyone has already installed/configured mailman under ubuntu ?
[00:25] <musikgoat|main> lol, get support from novell?
[00:25] <rww> icicle99: well, step one would be /join #openSUSE
[00:26] <D-MAN> are there any accounting programs for xubumtu?
[00:26] <Tomay> I burn it twice
[00:26] <Tomay> i redownloaded it & burn it for the 3 rd time
[00:26] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: thanks man, thats awesome
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: got it worked out?  cool
[00:27] <Tomay> the same problem persist
[00:27] <mastershihochief> still trying to get help, x is eating up 100% processing power when i use graphcs packs on web based games via apache2 http://localhost
[00:27] <anto9us> nuts, I had a laptop with the key for enable/disable webcam not labeled, check the manual
[00:27] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: yea but i can use xscream... which seems kinda cool.
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> !file xscream
[00:27] <musikgoat|main> hmm, i'll have to look it up, html editor?
[00:28] <mastershihochief> no i just drop a bunch of images into var/www and then i set it to download images from localhost instead of downloading images from the server
[00:28] <mastershihochief> speeds up loading the page
[00:29] <computer> how do i log out from su - admin_acc?
[00:29] <computer> in terminal, just close the terminal?
[00:29] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: yea it seems intersting, been using it for 5 seconds... it does other languages too.
[00:29] <jrib> computer: ctrl-d or exit or that
[00:29] <musikgoat|main> computer: exit
[00:29] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: u sure thats the name? cant find much other than the thrill ride in vegas :-P
[00:29] <storrgie> xscream
[00:30] <mezquitale> which e-mail client that can also use newsgroups for GNOME would you recommend??
[00:30] <PeterFA> How does one change his or her settings to open urls in Firefox instead of Thunderbird?
[00:30] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: can you link me to its site? if it exists?
[00:31] <onetinsoldier> PeterFA: i think there's an option in Firefox to check and see if it's the 'default browser'
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> PeterFA: check the Firefox preferences
[00:32] <computer> whats the command line for editing menus?
[00:32] <PeterFA> onetinsoldier, thanks.
[00:32] <D-MAN> anyone know how i can get grisbi the accounting program for linux?
[00:32] <mezquitale> computer, which menus are you talking about?
[00:32] <onetinsoldier> computer: on Debian, what i'm running right now. it's  update-alternatives
[00:32] <musikgoat|main> computer: do you need command line version, you can edit it in system -> preferences -> menus
[00:33] <computer> u know when u right click apps > edit menus. because i want to do through su - admin_acc
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> PeterFA: yw
[00:33] <wan> Ayone want to point an Ubuntu Noob in the right direction?
[00:34] <computer> any1?
[00:34] <musikgoat|main> computer: alacarte
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> hi all. would anyone like a little snowy christmas with santa's sleigh in your x windows? i have fixed up the Makefile for the very old xsnow program for x86_64 if you want it! won't work with all window managers tho. won't work with kde nor xfce and i'll bet not in compiz either. xsnow be very old but it's still a great X amusement for this time of year!
[00:34] <kristian1> i've just mounted a partition to a dir (sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /HDD) - however if i restart now, the partition will not be mounted, the main partition will be used if i use dir HDD. need help please!
[00:34] <wan> I have an existing squashfs that I want to compile a driver for, but I can't find the correct linux-headers to build against... any suggestions?  (yes, any1)
[00:35] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: add the mount instructions to /etc/fstab
[00:35] <kdub> latest upgrade broke my sound. driver still works, but banshee/ff/vlc/etc cant talk to it... any help?
[00:35] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: then it will mount on boot
[00:36] <android60> with 4gig ram, should you go 32 or 64 bit?
[00:36] <wan> i'm looking for linux-headers-2.6.20.4 to compile a driver against, any idea where to get this?
[00:36] <kdub> ah, got it. the pcm channel was turned all the way down... nevermind :P
[00:36] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : i've tried that, but i cant get it to work. can you tell me excactly what to add? :)
[00:36] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: paste your fstab file
[00:36] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: i'll look it over
[00:37] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : give me a sec
[00:37] <mezquitale> kristian1, first get the UUID of your device
[00:37] <sadam> jrib: I solved it, I had to uninstall and reinstall gconf to have the schemas reinstalled ala http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5a111f3b43e3cb2236bfe5d6eab438d5&t=929584&highlight=gnome-settings-demon&page=2
[00:37] <onetinsoldier> android60: i would go for 64-bit
[00:38] <sadam> jrib: http://www.lowlevel.cz/log/pivot/entry.php?id=95
[00:38] <wan> I'm a noob here, if i have a question, do i just go ahead, ask & hope someone responds?
[00:38] <InYourBase> wan: Just ask it
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> wan: yes
[00:39] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : http://paste.ubuntu.com/83242/ - heres the info
[00:39] <mezquitale> wan, just go on ahead and ask, if someone knows the answer they will reply, if nobody answers, go get some rest, an asian girl, and a beer, and come back at another time
[00:39] <corinth> I can't figure out how to check the md5sum of a disc I just burned using md5sum in the terminal. A little help?
[00:39] <wan> Does anyone know where to find an older linux-headers version (2.6.20.4) to compile a driver against?
[00:39] <kristian1> mezquitale : UUID? :-P
[00:39] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: that doesn't show what you tried to add for your new partition
[00:40] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: what is the filesystem you chose to use for your new partition?
[00:40] <phishphood> hello?
[00:40] <gnutron> corinth: md5sum filename.iso   [smash enter] you check sums Before you burn.
[00:40] <mezquitale> kristian1,  type " ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh"
[00:41] <corinth> gnutron: and that will compare the md5sum of my disc? (not the ISO)
[00:41] <phishphood> anybody up to helping me with dualmonitor support?
[00:41] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : my line= "/dev/sdb1 /HDD ext2 defaults 0 0" added at the end of txt. using default gparted settings. ext2
[00:41] <gnutron> corinth: do the md5sum filename.iso if its ok, your disk should be fine.
[00:41] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: ext2 is not good for media, i remember you saying you were going to use media
[00:42] <phishphood> exit
[00:42] <musikgoat|main> *put videos/audio on the disk, right?
[00:42] <peleg> Hello! Succesfuly finished installing 7.10. Everything looks quite fine, but I have one critical bug:
[00:42] <mezquitale> kristian1, whatever points to /dev/sdb1, that is the UUID you will use in "/etc/fstab"
[00:42] <peleg> while using the English keyboard, ctrl-a (for example) prints ש, which is from the Hebrew Keyboard.
[00:42] <rascal> good day
[00:43] <knight_> hi everyone
[00:43] <peleg> so I can't navigate in screen, or do some vim stuff, etc.
[00:43] <mastershihochief> http://i38.tinypic.com/qn6w4z.jpg   <<<my problem; http://i33.tinypic.com/2rgnxw7.jpg  <<< What it is when that tab isnt active (Been trying to fix this for days and i never get help wth.... T_T)
[00:43] <mezquitale> kristian1, the line you need to add to "/etc/fstab" should look something like this: "UUID=2515965e-86cf-42be-b508-531ce026e7cd /home           ext3    relatime        0       2"
[00:43] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : yeah, im going to use it for media, but i thought the discussion ending in just using default setup?
[00:43] <kristian1> mezquitale : done that now...
[00:43] <mezquitale> !email
[00:44] <mezquitale> !e-mail
[00:44] <mezquitale> !newsgroup
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> wan: you could download that kernel and compile it to get the header files, that is one way to get them. i don't think you have to actually install it, but the driver might not find them unless you can point them to it
[00:44] <musikgoat|main> kristian1: can I pm you?
[00:44] <joaquinm> hi guys, someone knows a guid of how to recompile gcc with i686 chost ?
[00:45] <mezquitale> kristian1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[00:45] <nnull> are newsgroups like email? ive never understood the concept of them
[00:45] <wan> onetinsoldier: thx, i'm just DLing the tarball now...
[00:46] <kristian1> musikgoat|main : yes please
[00:46] <gnutron> nnull: newgroups are like bulletin boards, does that help?
[00:46] <kristian1> mezquitale : trying what you said now...
[00:46] <kristian1> mezquitale : thanks for the link
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> wan: roger that.. gl
[00:47] <heath|OTG> What is that cool app launcher I keep seeing called?
[00:47] <heath|OTG> it kind of looks like an OSX appbar?
[00:48] <Guest71218> hey can any one help me with a grub erro  code 22
[00:48] <[e]Lement> heath|OTG, ah crap I cannot remember the name of it
[00:48] <peleg> help? Maybe it's a problem of the terminal, since in nautilus and firefox crtl-a selects all, and does not print ש
[00:48] <albert_fish> anto9us: how would i find out what drive/whever i need to know to fix that grub problem
[00:48] <heath|OTG> Guest71218  how did the problem start
[00:48] <heath|OTG> and can you change your name
[00:49] <maxus> sory
[00:49] <maxus> sorry even
[00:49] <mib_nxh4bzxp> guys having an issue
[00:49] <heath|OTG> error 22 means it kind find a partition that was there
[00:50] <mib_nxh4bzxp> I must have uninstall ncorrectly
[00:50] <mib_nxh4bzxp> I can't even choose to boot into windows
[00:50] <maxus> i did a really stupid thing i had a  ubuntu dual booting with windows on my laptop which im using for music production, i have decided to go with windows so deleted the partition of linux without thinking about it and now it stops at the grub loader i tried my windows disk and cant get into recovery mode so booted the live disk for ubuntu
[00:50] <mib_nxh4bzxp> I have same problem maxus
[00:50] <heath|OTG> lol... damn windows
[00:50]  * maxus waits for the laughter
[00:51] <maxus> i know it is really annoying that ableton doesnt work on ubuntu
[00:51] <mib_nxh4bzxp> I need to boot into windows..I see it there
[00:51] <heath|OTG> maxus: xp or vista
[00:51] <gnutron> maxus: boot a windows cd, use recovery console, run fixboot
[00:51] <maxus> xp
[00:51] <mib_nxh4bzxp> but linux is default and I unitsalled and I guess linux was piority
[00:51] <nick|here> try booting into windows installer cd than open a recovery console, and then fixboot fixmbr
[00:51] <heath|OTG> what gnutron said
[00:51] <mib_nxh4bzxp> so get my windows install disk?
[00:51] <maxus> gnutron as i said i cant  the disk wont let me
[00:51] <mib_nxh4bzxp> or get my ubuntu disk
[00:51] <hikenboot> hello all would a ati rage 128 from a G3 likely work in a pc?
[00:51] <nick|here> maxus: try to boot of the "Windows Installation CD"
[00:52] <maxus> when i boot of windows disk it wants to format thats it no repair option :(
[00:52] <Pici> hikenboot: I think so, check out ##hardware for a definite answer though.
[00:52] <five_> hello what is the autocomplete command in terminal?
[00:52] <nick|here> maxus: try pressing F2 for recovery console, google it
[00:52] <heath|OTG> no ones the name of the app launcher OSX look alike
[00:53] <five_> like to auto complete a file name or folder
[00:53] <nick|here> five_: ? TAB ?
[00:53] <gnutron> maxus: go to microsoft read the recovery console section, you need a windows install cd.
[00:53] <five_> ok
[00:53] <anto9us> albert_fish, cat /proc/partitions should give you a clue, devices tend to go sda, sdb, etc. and partitions sda1, sda2 etc,
[00:53] <five_> thank you
[00:53] <maxus> been there read it tried it  didnt work
[00:53] <maxus> it will not let me into recovary console
[00:54] <heath|OTG> maxus: how many HDD's are in the machine
[00:54] <maxus> 1
[00:54] <maxus> can i not do it through some kind of fdisck command
[00:54] <heath|OTG> fdisk then d
[00:54] <heath|OTG> j.k
[00:54] <maxus> lol
[00:54] <Genius314> I want to mount my extra ATA drive, but Ubuntu doesn't see it for some reason. I even tried "sudo fdisk -l," but it didn't show up.
[00:55] <heath|OTG> maxus look up noeboot
[00:55] <heath|OTG> neobppt
[00:55] <fliegenderfrosch> i’m trying to connect to an open wlan via the console. with network manager it works. when i use iwconfig ath0 essid "ESSID", iwconfig shows me the essid, but no ap or channel is shown. Has anyone an idea how I could connect?
[00:55] <heath|OTG> jnfdsajfd
[00:55] <heath|OTG> neogrub
[00:55] <root> where can I set it so root cannot ssh in?
[00:55] <root> heh
[00:55] <maxus> thanks for the advice will reseasrch
[00:55] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: try to obtain  an ip with dhclient or dhcpcd or whatever you are using
[00:55] <Lasivian> yes, yes, I know "never irc as root"
[00:56] <anto9us> Genius314, is it configured in the bios? does it have a file system on it?
[00:56] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: and what about link quality shown when you done iwconfig ath0
[00:56] <maxus> btw my laptop doesnt have a disck drive
[00:56] <musikgoat|main> Lasivian: you set that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:56] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, all the information you need should be available from   sudo iwlist ath0 scan
[00:57] <Lasivian> musikgoat|main: hrrm, I changed it there and was still able to ssh 127.0.0.1 and login with root
[00:57] <musikgoat|main> Lasivian: restart sshd:  sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[00:57] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, all except the password offcourse :)
[00:57] <Lasivian> oh stupid me..
[00:57] <Genius314> anto9us: Yeah, I have a filesystem on it, and it has most of my files on it. I was running Ubuntu on it before, but then I got a sata drive, installed Ubuntu on it (while the ATA was disconnected) and now I can't see it in Ubuntu...
[00:57] <albert_fish> Can someoen PM me and help me out with setting up grub froma live CD? http://pastebin.com/m60af6753
[00:58] <Lasivian> musikgoat|main: is there a setting that would stop external logins? only 127.0.0.1 is working
[00:58] <radovich> hi. i have a little problem: when i runa script from shell it executes with command ./script.sh, bur when i doubleclick it it does not. how do i make a shortcut to it that works???
[00:58] <maxus> neogrub im really confused now
[00:58] <musikgoat|main> Lasivian: there is, but i'm not sure what it is... check man sshd
[00:59] <Lasivian> ok, thanks
[00:59] <musikgoat|main> Lasivian: or it could be a firewall
[00:59] <gnutron> radovich: whats the very first line in your script? should be: #!/bin/bash
[00:59] <unop> radovich, what does the script do?
[00:59] <paulfitzpatrick> what do you guys recommend for managing process on a web server, to stop them killing the server - god or monitor?
[00:59] <radovich> it is
[00:59] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: dhclient doesn‘t get me an ip and afterwards the AP and channel are still not set
[00:59] <anto9us> Genius314, does gparted see it?
[00:59] <radovich> executes a game wormux
[00:59] <gribouille> hi
[00:59] <Lasivian> no, i've gotten as far as being certain it's hitting port 22 inbound :/
[00:59] <jhalstea1> :/p
[00:59] <radovich> unop: it executes a game
[00:59] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: the wlan is open btw
[00:59] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: try iwconfig ath0 ap "ESSID"
[00:59] <gribouille> I have speakers on one machine and I want to watch a video on another machine (connected to the former). how can I do that without unplugging the speakers ?
[00:59] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, dhclient won't be successful unless you set all parameters for iwconfig/iwpriv
[01:00] <third3ye> Hey there, how can I make a command react to a keyboard shortcut?
[01:00] <maxus> heath|OTG   i dont understand what you mean by neogrub
[01:00] <third3ye> or make a keyboard shortcut execute a command, I dunno :P
[01:00] <albert_fish> ﻿ Can someoen PM me and help me out with setting up grub froma live CD? http://pastebin.com/m60af6753
[01:00] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, nick|here, that wouldn't work - an AP is a MAC address not an ESSID
[01:00] <Genius314> anto9us: I don't have it installed right now, but I'll try to see if it finds it.
[01:00] <heath|OTG> maxus: brb
[01:00] <mib_jof61oin> hey guys sorry IE crashed
[01:00] <mib_jof61oin> maxus I don't have a repair option either
[01:01] <gribouille> I have speakers on one machine and I want to watch a video on another machine (connected to the former). how can I do that without unplugging the speakers ?
[01:01] <delineator> whats the difference between desktop, server, and "alternate" installations of ubuntu?
[01:01] <Genius314> anto9us: Nope, it doesn't see it...
[01:01] <mib_jof61oin> Maxus you there?
[01:01] <delineator> is "alternate" for laptops or mobile devices?
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> third3ye: been a long time since i looked at doing anything like that, but i think you have to edit the init file
[01:01] <noobnoob> !offtopic
[01:01] <lexvegas> does anyone know what the offtopic ubuntu channel is?
[01:01] <nick|here> unop: my bad. sorry. fliegenderfrosch try ifconfig then check if ath0 is there. if not ifconfig ath0 up. and bring the interface up
[01:02] <mdmkolbe> Help! I just upgraded to 8.10 and now the wireless won't kick in.
[01:02] <fliegenderfrosch> unop: I followed the madwifi user guide (http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo) and there it says that the essid should be enough
[01:02] <noobnoob> where do i look at all my system specs under the GUI of Ubuntu?
[01:02] <unop> delineator, the server release doesn't contain the desktop environment - i.e. gnome or KDE - and contains stuff for web, file, print servers etc .. the alternate CD is just another way of installing ubuntu - i.e. it doesn't have a live GUI environemnt to work from
[01:02] <mib_jof61oin> so obviousy I can't get the system repair option in vista...even googled and found out how to. What do I do
[01:02] <anto9us> Genius314, do sudo lshw and check that the drive or at least the ATA controller is listed
[01:02] <maxus> yes i am here
[01:02] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: by the way, do you get anything when you do iwlist ath0 s can
[01:02] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: ath0 is up
[01:02] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: yes, I get a list with all networks
[01:03] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, yea, in most cases the ESSID and key are enough - but sometimes you have to force the AP
[01:03] <delineator> thanks unop, so if i have a gateway 'gaming' laptop, what would be the appropriate installation?
[01:03] <radovich> unop: i downloaded a game wormux from a website, because it is newer than in repos, it has a binary executable which dows not work. in a script, it sais #!bin/bash blah blah paths etc, and it works from a console when i ./script.sh, but when i doubleclick, it does not. is there a way to make a shortcut to it that works?
[01:03] <fliegenderfrosch> unop: so should it need anything besides essid, AP MAC and channel?
[01:03] <noobnoob> where do i look at all my system specs under the GUI of Ubuntu?
[01:03] <unop> delineator, the usual one
[01:03] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: when you done iwconfig ath0 essid "YourEssid" then iwconfig you can't see your essid here, that's your problem. can you check in which mode your ath0 is?  Monitor, managed?
[01:03] <markdrago> Is there a way to force my machine to use the vesa driver?  I'm a little lost with an empty xorg.conf.
[01:04] <gnutron> radovich: chmod u+x scriptname.sh
[01:04] <gribouille> I have speakers on one machine and I want to watch a video on another machine (connected to the former). how can I do that without unplugging the speakers ?
[01:04] <albert_fish> ﻿ Can someoen PM me and help me out with setting up grub froma live CD? http://pastebin.com/m60af6753
[01:04] <markdrago> I'm about to give a presentation at my lug and I need to use vesa to connect to the projector.
[01:04] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: it's enough to set ap for an open network
[01:04] <fliegenderfrosch> noobnoob: you could install hardinfo
[01:04] <anto9us> noobnoob, System | Administration | System Monitor and select System tab
[01:04] <Scunizi> markdrago: try installing grandr for control of xrandr
[01:04] <radovich> gnutron: thanx alot! i will try it
[01:04] <unop> radovich,  are you sure the first line is  #!bin/bash ?? and not  #!/bin/bash  ?
[01:04] <third3ye> onetinsoldier: Nothing that can be fixed via X?
[01:04] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: ath0 is managed
[01:05] <markdrago> Scunizi: thanks.  I'll give that a shot.
[01:05] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, for home environments AP is hardly ever needed - just ESSID and key should suffice
[01:05] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: iwconfig sets the essid, but AP is shown not associated and channel is shown 0
[01:05] <Scunizi> markdrago: xrandr is what controls the video display now.. :( & :)
[01:05] <markdrago> Scunizi: gotcha
[01:05] <fliegenderfrosch> unop: it’s not even encrypted...
[01:05] <jrib> markdrago: you still use xorg.conf to choose your video driver
[01:06] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: try iwconfig channel "Channel" essid "ESSID" rate auto
[01:06] <Genius314> anto9us: What exactly am I looking for in the output?
[01:06] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: but it isn't necessary to do that
[01:06] <unop> fliegenderfrosch, this is what i have in my config file - http://pastebin.com/d5a51b10
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> third3ye: i'm not sure.. keep asking your question every once in a while. someone might know
[01:06] <badawi> !linux-virtual
[01:06] <markdrago> jrib: I can get it to use vesa, but it then won't go above 800x600.
[01:06] <gnutron> unop: #!bin/bash isn't correct.
[01:06] <unop> gnutron, quite right, it's not correct
[01:06] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: there should be a mac filter if you can't connect even with the last command
[01:07] <unop> gnutron, well it can be - if the script is resident in /
[01:07] <jrib> !x > markdrago
[01:07] <gnutron> unop: mis-understood you, apologies.
[01:07] <radovich> unop: sorry, it's a typo. it sais #!/bin/bash :)
[01:07] <badawi> !linux-server
[01:07] <unop> radovich, mind if we have a look at your script - it should work by all means
[01:07] <radovich> script is good, just does not execute on doubleclick
[01:07] <Genius314> anto9us: The only drive I see here is my SATA...
[01:07] <ninulkin> i need help on russian
[01:08] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: there can‘t be a mac filter, as i can connect with network-manager, it just doesn‘t work from the console. but i’ll try this command
[01:08] <gnutron> radovich: if its supposed to output to STDOUT, the a nautilus click isnt going to work.
[01:08] <unop> radovich, that's the thing - it should
[01:08] <albert_fish> ﻿ Can someoen PM me and help me out with setting up grub froma live CD?the normal directions availble on line for retoring grub after a winblows install are not working and i cant figure this out onmy own.  http://pastebin.com/m60af6753
[01:08] <radovich> #!/bin/bash
[01:08] <radovich> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./lib WORMUX_DATADIR=./data/ WORMUX_LOCALEDIR=./data/locale WORMUX_FONT_PATH=./data/font/DejaVuSans.ttf ./lib/ld-linux.so.2 ./bin/wormux
[01:08] <Scunizi> markdrago: grandr won't do what you want.. I just checked. there is a lot of instruction on xrandr on debian's site http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[01:09] <unop> radovich, there's your problem - you are using incorrect paths
[01:09] <radovich> that's it
[01:09] <unop> radovich, or you aren't changing to the right directory before hand
[01:09] <anto9us> Genius314, you sure the ATA controller is enabled then?
[01:09] <radovich> but when i execute it from shell with ./ it works
[01:09] <Lasiv> ok, when I ssh from a computer on the lan it connects, when I ssh from outside my network it gets refused, is there any way to test and see how far the connection is getting? everything else that is open on my router works fine
[01:09] <nick|here> albert_fish: are you using ubuntu?
[01:09] <unop> radovich, but at the shell your $PWD is different to the one in which nautilus is at
[01:10] <unop> radovich, at the shell, what does the command pwd give you?
[01:10] <radovich> the same as nautilus
[01:10] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: i still get AP: Not associated with this last command
[01:10] <Genius314> anto9us: It should be... I can use the CD drive, and they're running from the same connection (this mobo only has one ATA port)
[01:10] <unop> radovich, nautilus does not return anything :)
[01:10] <jill> hi
[01:11] <Lasiv> hrrm, ok, I telnetted it and I get a ssh reasponse, but when I try putty it refuses
[01:11] <radovich> unop: yep:)
[01:11] <unop> radovich,  anyway - you need this on line 2.   cd /path/to/game/
[01:11] <radovich> i click, nothing happens
[01:11] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: i’ve got the feeling that this command doesn‘t really do anything, it quits instantaniously and tha wlan led doesnt blink
[01:11] <anto9us> Genius314, the ATA HD has been disconnected? Reconnected properly to same cable and connector?
[01:11] <jill> I have an HP Photosmart D7460, and I have some photo paper that is 4x8 that I would like to print a 4x8 photo on. How can I do this with ubuntu?
[01:11] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: wlanconfig ath0 destroy && wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta
[01:11] <gnutron> Lasiv: do you have port forwarding enabled to the sshd host box
[01:12] <Lasiv> gnutron: yes
[01:12] <Lasiv> oh, I see it now, it's hitting the wrong ubuntu box
[01:12] <jill> my printer is connected and reconized by my ubuntu computer
[01:12]  * Lasiv smacks her forehead
[01:12] <gnutron> Lasiv: what error do you get
[01:12] <Lasiv> nevermind, fixed
[01:12] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: it's normal. it actually seems like to do nothing but it does. and the leds cannot be work unless you've done some special settings. by the way, why you're insisting to connect via command line
[01:12] <Lasiv> duh on me
[01:13] <maxus> sorry to reask but im having major trouble with a grub error code 22  when itry to recover via windows it asks for me to insert a floppy disk i dont even have a fdd
[01:13] <radovich> unop: You are a Wiz! The Force is strong with You!!! Thank You! It works!
[01:13] <maxus> is there no way to fix via ubuntu
[01:13] <nick|here> maxus: try R to enter a repair console
[01:13] <unop> radovich, ta :)
[01:13] <jill> can anyone help?
[01:14] <Genius314> anto9us: It was disconnected when I installed Ubuntu. I just connected it now, then turned on my computer, but I can't see it.
[01:14] <maxus> nick|here when i do that it asks for a floppy disk i dont have a floppy disk drive
[01:14] <nick|here> maxus: if you want you can boot from ubuntu cd, rescue broken system and then reinstall grub
[01:14] <badawi> what's the difference between linux-server and linux-virtual?
[01:14] <badawi> !linux-virtual
[01:14] <badawi> :(
[01:14] <mdmkolbe> Can someone help me get wireless working?  (It broke durring my upgrade to 8.10)
[01:14] <anto9us> Genius314, does lshw not list it?
[01:14] <jill> how can you configure the paper size of your photo?
[01:15] <nick|here> mdmkolbe: what wireless card are you using
[01:15] <radovich> unop: thanx again, i'm off now to play!
[01:15] <Genius314> anto9us: Nope.
[01:15] <unop> radovich, happy gaming!!
[01:15] <jill> @mdmkolbe: Sure, I know all about wireless. Just finished with that
[01:15] <radovich> anyway, if you like worm, try this game!
[01:15] <mdmkolbe> nick|here: how do I check
[01:15] <nick|here> mdmkolbe: lspci
[01:15] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any way to get rid of unused installation files, like .deb files downloaded by synaptic?
[01:15] <anto9us> Genius314, it's got power connected and it's jumpered properly?
[01:15] <nick|here> mdmkolbe: then look for something like atheros, broadcom
[01:15] <unop> GodfatherofEire, sudo apt-get clean
[01:15] <mdmkolbe> nick|here: 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:16] <GodfatherofEire> unop, thanks, been wonderin how to do that for a while
[01:16] <jill> ahhh, does anyone know anything about printers?
[01:16] <unop> GodfatherofEire, or perhaps, better. sudo apt-get autoclean
[01:16] <Genius314> anto9us: The jumpers... I forgot. I might have the CD and HDD both set to master... not sure, but I'll check.
[01:16] <GodfatherofEire> unop: thanks
[01:16] <echinos> jill: yeah, but maybe not what you want to know...
[01:17] <mdmkolbe> nick|here: that is was I get from lspci.  (this is a laptop with integrated wireless)
[01:17] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here: still the same... it’s not really important that I can connect, I just thought it would be nice to be able to do it from the console and as it didn’t work I wanted to know if I do something wrong.
[01:17] <maxus> nick|here just booting ubuntu how do i rescue ?
[01:17] <gnutron> jill: you can try using a browser and cups type http://localhost:631 to administer the printer there.
[01:17] <Caduceus> Hello
[01:18] <nick|here> maxus: try rescue broken system option, and then select reinstall grub from rescue operations
[01:18] <fliegenderfrosch> nick|here, unop: thanks for your help anyway
[01:18] <istvan> hi guys, I don't want to be off topic, anyone knows where should I go if I have hardware/software related questions
[01:18] <Caduceus> I've just downloaded ubuntu 8.10 and I use a USB flash drive for my internet.  wat internet thing should i get?
[01:18] <maxus> where should i find  the rescue broken system options when i boot it wasnt in the list
[01:19] <jill> gnutron: thanks. I see the option "Media Size", but I'm not sure which to pick... I have 4x8 photo papper
[01:19] <jill> *paper
[01:19] <hackel> Caduceus, what in the world does that mean?
[01:19] <nick|here> fliegenderfrosch: nope. i really wonder why you can't. i'm creating a tool that allow users to connect from console easily like gui. i'll inform you later
[01:19] <jill> there doesn't appear to be an option for 4x8
[01:19] <nick|here> maxus: try to type rescue and enter
[01:19] <maxus> at the console?
[01:20] <anto9us> istvan, if it's running on ubuntu then ask here
[01:20] <badawi> !virtualization
[01:20] <Caduceus> hackel, ibe got a 11g wireless USB adapter
[01:20] <nick|here> maxus: yes
[01:20] <maxus> ok will try that now
[01:20] <istvan> yess and no, if it solves on ubuntu then probably everything isd solved... here it is
[01:20] <gnutron> jill: I don't think it supports it. you might try the CUPS site- http://cups.org/
[01:20] <hackel> Caduceus, ah, okay, that's quite different from a flash drive.  Still don't know what the "internet thing" means that you want to get...
[01:21] <maxus> nick|here  thank you so much for  trying to help i cant loose the data on the windows drive its got all my composition work :(
[01:21] <Caduceus> hackel, I cant connect to the internet
[01:21] <manzur> hey my friend i need one help, maybe it is not about ubuntu, but it is about sending  bug, listen: i want to know how do you say "atrazar" in english, i know you say rewind, so how do you say "adelantar"?
[01:21] <Caduceus> should i pop in the CD i got with the adapter?
[01:21] <istvan> I just built a somewhat high end rig and know that is together I cannot put any OS on it. on windows says that its a crc error system halted and something similar on ubuntu as well
[01:22] <hackel> Caduceus, no, unless the manufacturer randomly supplied linux drivers.  Have you searched for that model to see if it's compatible with linux?
[01:22] <maxus> it says rescue command not found
[01:22] <Caduceus> Where should I check?
[01:22] <albert_fish> nick|here: yes im useing ubuntu
[01:22] <istvan> I put   4 sata hdds on it, one assigned to windows related oses and one for linuxes, but no luck with any of these
[01:22] <hackel> Caduceus, google
[01:22] <manzur> istvan: hey my friend i need one help, maybe it is not about ubuntu, but it is about sending  bug, listen: i want to know how do you say "atrazar" in english, i know you say rewind, so how do you say "adelantar"?
[01:22] <noobnoob> will an external hd made for windows users be plug n play on ubuntu will there be a problem with xferring data?
[01:23] <nick|here> albert_fish: which version ? try to boot from cd and rescue broken system , then reinstall grub
[01:23] <LjL> manzur: don't randomly use people's nicknames.
[01:23] <hackel> noobnoob, I've never heard of making hard drives for a particular operating system.  Should work fine.
[01:23] <echinos> noobnoob: should be plugnplay, ubuntu has ntfs modules afaik
[01:23] <tuxxy__> hey are the forums down
[01:23] <anto9us> istvan, your psu is rated to support that many drives?
[01:23] <manzur> LjL: ok my friend
[01:23] <hackel> noobnoob, you'll probably want to reformat it as ext3 though.
[01:23] <istvan> i don't know but it can provide 950W
[01:24] <LoveGuru> Hi, to make linux as ssh server then i can access my box from outside. which packages i do need ? ssh-server or ssh?
[01:24] <wan> Hi onetinsoldier:  Me again.  Have DLed & am building a 2.6.20.4 kernel.  When it's done, where will I find the linux-headers?
[01:24] <echinos> hackel: no,he wants to read the drive from ubuntu
[01:24] <LjL> manzur: the word you'd looking for might be "forward", but it depends on the context.
[01:24] <gnutron> istvan: check your BIOS hdd settings maybe.
[01:24] <jrib> !ssh > loveguru
[01:24] <anto9us> istvan, that's a lot of watts, should be ok
[01:24] <LjL> manzur: or "fast forward", or simply "wind".
[01:24] <lu6cifer> I'm compiling something, and it asks for boost/bind.hpp--is there someway I can obtain this file without installing the entire boost library?
[01:24] <echinos> noobnoob: plug 'er in, go to places, should be there
[01:24] <mdmkolbe> nick|here have you forgotten about me?
[01:25] <echinos> noobnoob: only catch is ntfs might be read only, not sure about that
[01:25] <LjL> manzur: but if you're trying to translate a the words of a program to English in a bug, i suggest you just leave them in Spanish instead.
[01:25] <istvan> my fan controller said that on turning on uses only 250 with QX9650, 2 9800 GX2 and 4 1TB hdd
[01:25] <istvan> in it
[01:25] <nick|here> mdmkolbe: try googling "ubuntu intrepid 3945ABG"
[01:25] <LjL> lu6cifer: not easily. what's the problem with installing the whole library? "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" will get it for you
[01:26] <wan> I downloaded & built an older kernel as I'm after the linux-headers for that version.  Now it's built, where do I find the linux-headers?
[01:26] <mezquitale> what e-mail client that also is able to use newsgroups would you recommend for GNOME???
[01:26] <RequinB4> istvan: are you trying to have all 4 at once?
[01:26] <Caduceus> hackel, i cant find anything about it.
[01:26] <McCallister> I'm running xubuntu and seem to have lost my panel (task bar equivalent). How can I get it back?
[01:26] <LoveGuru> jrib: what i have to install ? ssh-server , ssh-client or ssh ?
[01:26] <Caduceus> will my computer be affected if i put in the cd?
[01:26] <istvan> gnutron: I check, I can even partition and install os just doeasn't load. I can't believe that(or at least tqwo that i tried) have MBR issues
[01:26] <anto9us> echinos, noobnoob, ubuntu supports write on NTFS provided windows has shutdown cleanly and isn't hibernated
[01:26] <jrib> LoveGuru: did you read the link from ubottu?
[01:26] <echinos> wan: where'd you get the kernel?
[01:26] <lu6cifer> It's just that the library is really large (half a gig when uncompressed)
[01:27] <echinos> anto9us: thx\
[01:27] <hackel> Caduceus, what kind of device is it?  What is the model?
[01:27] <istvan> RequinB4: yes, the motherboard should be able to support 6 sata2 one
[01:27] <Daemonik> I'm running a ubuntu ltsp server, nbd-server won't start. http://pastebin.ca/1281237  I didn't delete any configs, it was setup with the ltsp-server-standalone package (I think). What am I missing here?
[01:27] <lu6cifer> I want to try and avoid downloading the entire thing
[01:27] <unop> McCallister, try launching the xfce4-panel  from a terminal or run dialog box
[01:27] <MasterShihoChief> ok now i need big help
[01:27] <LoveGuru> jrib: alright. :) thx
[01:27] <maxus> nick|here couldnt rescue so im installing again onto freespace that i deleted  from previous this should at least fix  grub?
[01:27] <hackel> Caduceus, no, it won't be affected, but it only contains windows drivers.  You might be able to use those with ndiswrapper if there are no open-source drivers.
[01:27] <MasterShihoChief> now my environment wont stop blinking
[01:27] <MasterShihoChief> and my desktop icons are gone
[01:27] <Caduceus> What do you suggest I do hackel?
[01:27] <nick|here> maxus: which version are you using?
[01:27] <Daemonik> I suppose it doesn't matter . . hm
[01:28] <maxus> 7.10
[01:28] <wan> echinos:  I struggled finding it, eventually turned up in a tarball on a us .edu server
[01:28] <gnutron> istvan: try booting a gparted cd
[01:28] <hackel> Caduceus, what kind of device is it?  What is the model?
[01:28] <RequinB4> istvan: i'm definitly not claiming this will do anything, but i had a problem once with my power supply on ubuntu - can you try using just sata drive (the one you're booting from) and move from there?  It'll make diagnostics easier too
[01:28] <echinos> wan: ok, so they didn't have headers there too?
[01:28] <MasterShihoChief> hello? my windows are all blinking non stop
[01:28] <maxus> im assuming all i have to do is  install then if it fixes grub error  then i just need to edit my grub file again?
[01:28] <istvan> gnutron: i did and used it for partitioning for linux distros but nothing, grub starts and then error message kicks in
[01:29] <Caduceus> TRENDnet TEW-444UB is the model, hackel
[01:29] <keres_> what is the chown syntax to remove ownership from a folder?
[01:29] <anto9us> istvan, are you trying to set up raid or lvm across these drives? you will need to put /boot on a partition by itself
[01:29] <echinos> wan: maybe the headers are in the tarball and you didn't see 'em?
[01:29] <mdmkolbe> thx nick|here the first link provided some info that helped (at least as work arounds)
[01:29] <keres_> anyone?
[01:29] <keres_> what is the chown syntax to remove ownership from a folder?
[01:30] <Octoroks> how would i get ubuntu to boot from a external harddrive?
[01:30] <lstarnes> keres_: you need to transfer its owbership to another user account
[01:30] <Yann1> hi, I used the force-quit applet to kill an aplication. it worked but now I have still a (forcequit) splash over evrything. How can I kill the applet itself?
[01:30] <lstarnes> *ownership
[01:30] <istvan> anto9us: no raid yet, I just wanted to start with four plain hdds
[01:30] <musikgoat|main> keres_: removing whose ownership?
[01:30] <gnutron> istvan: maybe zero  the mbr with 'dd'
[01:30] <badawi> Yann1: xkill
[01:30] <istvan> gnutron: talk to me, what's that?
[01:30] <keres_> i accidentally set ´sudo chown -R keres:keres /usr/´ to do some major work on a series of folders, big mistake
[01:30] <Yann1> badawi: xkill on the splash don't work...
[01:30] <MasterShihoChief> <<< this guy's comp is 3 inches from the pool and ready to throw it in
[01:30] <echinos> !permissions
[01:31] <musikgoat|main> keres_: oh, thats bad
[01:31] <nick|here> istvan: dd -i /dev/zero -o /dev/sda
[01:31] <wan> echinos: the tar has a /include directory, but its a totally different structure to the linux-headers-2.6.20-17 in my usr/src
[01:31] <anto9us> keres_, chown user:group, you don't remove so much as change ownership and group ownership
[01:31] <Recursiv3> Hello. I am trying to disable the tap to click on my Synaptics touchpad in Ubuntu 8.10. I cannot use gsynaptics because it gives me the error message "GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics".
[01:31] <istvan> gnutron: I'm using live cd right now, can I do that through this?
[01:31] <badawi> Yann1: killall <processname>
[01:31] <keres_> anto9us: is this the same as it was before?
[01:32] <badawi> Yann1: what's the app
[01:32] <keres_> to make it the same?
[01:32] <gnutron> istvan: should be able to, best to google dd and mbr
[01:32] <matus_> hello.. I got core2duo 2.6 processor... can I install the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[01:32] <Recursiv3> There is no tutorial that I have read yet that tells me how to get GSynaptics to work in 8.10.
[01:32] <MasterShihoChief> i swear its like pulling teeth to get an damn help around here
[01:32] <storrgie> I want to configure my hosts.allow to allow a couple things and set my deny to all, can anyone help me out
[01:32] <Yann1> badawi; right, but I have no idea what the process name of the force-quit applett is....
[01:32] <anto9us> keres_, before what?
[01:32] <fliegenderfrosch> Recursiv3: have you tried doing what it tells you to do?
[01:32] <keres_> anto9us: before i changed ownership of /usr/ to my account?
[01:32] <RequinB4> Yann1: iirc its just python
[01:32] <istvan> gnutron: this dd doesn't have the -i option. would it work without it?
[01:32] <badawi> Yann1: ps -eaf | grep force
[01:32] <scientes> can you just issue one command and then allways install -dev packages?
[01:33] <keres_> anto9us: it leaves huge vulnerabilities. i´d rather get it back the way it was :S
[01:33] <scientes> its so annoying when building packages
[01:33] <hackel> Caduceus, it uses an Atheros AR5523 / AR2112 chip which should work with the madwifi driver.
[01:33] <LjL> DON'T RUN THE DD COMMAND GIVEN
[01:33] <Caduceus> What does that mean> o_O
[01:33] <Caduceus> And what should i do to make it work?
[01:34] <dk> is it a good idea to always set swap space even though you have 4gb of memory
[01:34] <israelito_solito> hello, can anyone tell me how I can use the S-video cable to switch to my TV?
[01:34] <anto9us> keres_, hopefully you've not changed recursively and can just do sudo chown root:root /usr
[01:34] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: xrandr should be able to do that
[01:35] <keres_> anto9us: recursively?
[01:35] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: which ubuntu version?
[01:35] <kelen> Hi,i'm a beginner on ubuntu.
[01:35] <anto9us> keres_, with -R, don't use that now though
[01:35] <israelito_solito> Intrepid
[01:35] <Yann1> badawi: strange, but there's no python process running expect screenlets and  printer-applet
[01:35] <keres_> anto9us: sudo chown -r root:root /usr/    ?
[01:35] <israelito_solito> 8.10
[01:35] <Yann1> badawi: grep force returns nothing
[01:35] <israelito_solito> Intrepid Ibex
[01:35] <anto9us> keres_, no, don't do that, I was checking if you had previously, that's all
[01:36] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: you could check if the tv shows up in the screen settings
[01:36] <Caduceus> Are you there hackel?
[01:36] <musikgoat|main> keres_: i don't know if root should own the entire /usr directory,  i think there will be apps that will not work
[01:36] <anto9us> keres_, just do the command sudo chown root:root /usr
[01:36] <lorenzo> hi, is there any way I can make the volume out of my laptop louder? Often even if I crank the master up to max, volume is still to low on my ibex. Maybe it's me going deaf but I was just wondering, maybe i can get a bit extra gain and pull it up a tad. Thanks a lot everybody
[01:36] <MasterShihoChief> ok well i have had enough this comp is going in the pool, cheers
[01:36] <musikgoat|main> keres_: i'm not sure if all /usr directories are supposed to be owned by root, perusing my own
[01:37] <RequinB4> lorenze: try turning pcm up?
[01:37] <l337ingDisorder> does anyone here know the proper syntax for scp?
[01:37] <choklitrein> I need a hand with my wired networking. I need my box to connect to the internet via a XP laptop
[01:37] <choklitrein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6339840
[01:37] <fliegenderfrosch> lorenzo: make sure all channels are up
[01:37] <l337ingDisorder> i'm trying    scp root@<host>: /path/to/file
[01:37] <lorenzo> fliegenderfrosch, yes all up
[01:37] <l337ingDisorder> it's telling me:
[01:37] <badawi> Yann1: it's called something else, i'm looking
[01:37] <l337ingDisorder> scp: .: not a regular file
[01:37] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: scp file user@host:  will work, dont  forget the colon.
[01:38] <lorenzo> RequinB4, how do i do that?
[01:38] <anto9us> choklitrein, if this is without a hub then are you using a cross-over network cable and not a standard one?
[01:38] <dsch04> I've just hit a really bizarre "thing" with GNOME Terminal
[01:38] <RequinB4> lorenzo: alsamixer (in terminal)
[01:38] <dsch04> If I hit "s", it opens a new terminal
[01:38] <istvan> manzur: to move forward maybe?
[01:38] <choklitrein> anto9us: just a standard eth0 one
[01:38] <dsch04> wtf?
[01:38] <anto9us> choklitrein, do you have a hub between them?
[01:38] <choklitrein> nope
[01:38] <fliegenderfrosch> dsch04: is s set as the shortcut for the terminal?
[01:38] <choklitrein> just this:
[01:38] <choklitrein> [ Ubuntu ] --ethernet--> [ Win XP Laptop ] - - - Wireless - - -> [ Router ]
[01:39] <dsch04> Not that I'm aware of
[01:39] <hackel> Caduceus, sorry, madwifi doesn't support USB.  You'll have to try to use ndiswrapper.  Install the "ndisgtk" package from Synaptic, which will allow you to load the windows driver off of your CD, and with any luck, it will work. :)
[01:39] <dsch04> It doesn't happen in any other window
[01:39] <l337ingDisorder> gnutron: Ok I tried putting the file path first, now the error has changed to "/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf: No such file or directory" (but I know damn well that file exists as I have it open in pico in another session
[01:39] <l337ingDisorder> )
[01:39] <anto9us> choklitrein, it won't work, the wiring on the cable has to be different, the green and orange pairs need swapping
[01:39] <choklitrein> anto9us: alright, thanks
[01:39] <jtaji> l337ingDisorder: what is the source file, and what is the destination file?
[01:39] <l337ingDisorder> gnutron: so if I know the file exists on the host I'm trying to grab it from, why would it say it doesn't?
[01:39] <dsch04> "S" doesn't do anything, just "s"
[01:40] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: give me the path to file you want to copy, or the whole dir.
[01:40] <Caduceus> what is the website to the "ndisgtk" thing?
[01:40] <lorenzo> RaquinB4, yeah the master's up, capture is 0 but I guess that has nothing to do with it right?
[01:40] <recon69> have a question, using firestarter firewall GUI it shows 4 http connectios open, these connection show no program owning them, and the only internet program i have open is this irc program which show in active connections as well. anyone know what going on?
[01:40] <istvan> another thing this is more hardware related, can sata optical drive be used on the ide with appropriate sata2ide thing?
[01:40] <RequinB4> lorenzo: there should be a pcm slider
[01:40] <hackel> Caduceus, I don't know, it doesn't matter.  Just install it in Ubuntu's Add/Remove programs.  More details here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:40] <l337ingDisorder> gnutron: the file I want is on root@server at /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01:40] <RequinB4> lorenzo: or maybe not... nevermind
[01:40] <dsch04> fliegenderfrosch: Ah, you're right
[01:40] <l337ingDisorder> gnutron: I just need to copy that to the local filesystem
[01:40] <jtaji> l337ingDisorder: so you need scp root@server:/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf /path/to/local/dest
[01:41] <lorenzo> RequinB4, I only got master, capture, all. that's it
[01:41] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: and where do you want it
[01:41] <fliegenderfrosch> dsch04: what was it?
[01:41] <Caduceus> ok thanks hackel
[01:41] <l337ingDisorder> jtaji: Tried that, didn't let me.. hold on i'll try again
[01:41] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: ok, sec
[01:41] <dsch04> "New Window" is set to "s"
[01:41] <dsch04> No idea how
[01:41] <fliegenderfrosch> dsch04: :)
[01:41] <dsch04> Must have been some random keypresses  - I didn't do it on purpose
[01:41] <dsch04> In fact, I don't know how to undo it!
[01:41] <lorenzo> RequinB4, any other ideas?
[01:41] <RequinB4> lorenzo: well, how quiet is it? really really quiet to the point you think something is wrong or just not as loud as you think it would be
[01:41] <rascal_is_here> hai every body welcome to #hackers_heaven join and share and solve hacking
[01:42] <wan> Hey echinos!  Sorry for the delay, just grepped the entire untarred kernel 2.6.20.4 sources for "linux-header*" & there's no references in there - are the /usr/src/linux-header* built along with the installation?
[01:42] <Pici> rascal_is_here: Please do not advertise channels here, this is a support channel.
[01:42] <lorenzo> RequinB4, it's not superquiet but still quieter than on Gutsy
[01:42] <RequinB4> lorenzo: what is your sound card (lspci)
[01:43] <dsch04> So, how do I reset that back to Ctrl-Shift-n ?
[01:43] <lorenzo>  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:43] <l337ingDisorder> jtaji: root@awd-264-mkt:~# scp root@hornby: /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf /root/snmpd.conf
[01:43] <l337ingDisorder> /root/snmpd.conf: No such file or directory
[01:43] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: jtaji should be correct OR  scp root@server:/etc/snmp/snmpd.conf . ENTER will put it in your pwd
[01:43] <rascal_is_here> sorry pici
[01:43] <gnutron> l337ingDisorder: use the dot
[01:43] <jtaji> l337h4l: no space between root@hornby: and /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf
[01:43] <jtaji> l337ingDisorder: ^
[01:43] <dsch04> Ah, ok. Got it.
[01:43] <fliegenderfrosch> dsch04: there is an entry in the edit menu
[01:44] <dsch04> Yeah, I couldn't work out how to change it
[01:44] <dsch04> Found it by trial and error - click on the Shortcut LKey column in the dialog box and press the desried shortcut key combination
[01:44] <lorenzo> RequinB4,  Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:44] <RequinB4> lorenzo: hey, that's my sound card
[01:44] <fliegenderfrosch> lorenzo: in the gnome mixer, you can perhaps show more channels via the settings
[01:45] <l337ingDisorder> jtaji: Ahhhh great, thanks! I first tried without the space but that gave another error (probably because I didn't specify destination)
[01:45] <l337ingDisorder> thanks for the help guys!
[01:45] <RequinB4> lorenzo: I needed to add a new driver to get mine working
[01:45] <Octoroks> does the file browser shoe file extentions on default?
[01:45] <lorenzo> RequinB4, ah really?
[01:45] <jedi06> should i be using aptitude instead of apt-get?
[01:45] <RequinB4> lorenzo: and you should have pcm there somewhere
[01:45] <israelito_solito> can anyone tell me if its possible to display the monitor on the TV
[01:45] <RequinB4> lorenzo: yeah, but that was in feisty so idk
[01:45] <gnutron> jedi06: either will do.
[01:45] <israelito_solito> usign s-video cable
[01:45] <lorenzo> RequinB4, I can see PCM in the alsa mixer from icontray
[01:45] <RequinB4> lorenzo: do what fliegenderfrosch said
[01:45] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: have you checked the screen (resolution) preferences?
[01:46] <jedi06> gnutron but is aptitude better
[01:46] <RequinB4> lorenzo: remember best quality sound is at 74% PCM, loudest at 100%
[01:46] <israelito_solito> hi, yes
[01:46] <israelito_solito> it doesnt show
[01:46] <jtaji> jedi06: officially you should be, apt-get is the "back end" interface, and aptitude is the high-level interface, according to the man pages :)
[01:46] <lorenzo> RequinB4, fliegenderfrosch, ok you have been very kind, thanks for your time!
[01:46] <fliegenderfrosch> RequinB4: thx, didnt know that with best quality
[01:46] <gnutron> jedi06: yes, so i've heard, didnt want to start a package manager war :)
[01:47] <Octoroks> it won't let me move files to /usr/ it says i don't have the permission
[01:47] <gnutron> jedi06: i agree btw.
[01:47] <RequinB4> fliegenderfrosch: yeah, i learned that the hard way
[01:47] <rob227> anyone know anything about pulseaudio in here?
[01:47] <noobnoob> echinos thanks for the help on external hds and ntfs i dont think linux and ntfs get along well
[01:47] <rob227> I ony can get sound out of one speaker?
[01:47] <RequinB4> fliegenderfrosch: actually, i'm 70% sure its the same quality and only gets bad at 75% +
[01:47] <gnutron> noobnoob: yes they do.
[01:47] <jedi06> ok i will start using aptitude
[01:48] <fliegenderfrosch> RequinB4: i just learned that my soundcard sounded shitty when i set pcm to 100 and used master to change the volume
[01:48] <noobnoob> anto9us thanks for the help on system mon
[01:48] <noobnoob> fliegenderfrosch hardinfo!
[01:48] <anto9us> noobnoob, yw
[01:48] <gribouille> hi
[01:48] <rob227> Can anyone help with pulseaudio?
[01:48] <crimsun> rob227: what sort?
[01:49] <RequinB4> fliegenderfrosch: there you go.  I just turn pcm up really loud if i'm in an area with lots of noise pollution and to 74 when not
[01:49] <fliegenderfrosch> noobnoob: ?
[01:49] <gribouille> I can't get my sound card to yield any sound. my card is Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB High Definition Audio Controller. any idea ?
[01:49] <DiiPhantom> how i know i have latests OPENGL? am I supposed to update some OPENGL for ubuntu? or updates do it?
[01:49] <rob227> crimsun: Only one speaker is working! The other doesn't. I have check the volume controls aka alsamixer.
[01:50] <merln> gribouille: i am having the same prolem
[01:50] <fliegenderfrosch> RequinB4: i had to fight with that as gnome didnt let me change the channel my multimedia keys control...
[01:50] <gribouille> merln, and the same card ?
[01:50] <gnutron> DiiPhantom: updates ; upgrades will do it. provided it's installed.
[01:50] <crimsun> rob227: please pastebin the output from `amixer -c0'
[01:50] <rob227> Thanks for any help you can give
[01:50] <badawi> i want to rebuild a package with the debugging flag on (-g) i did apt-get source  --download-only foobar, but now what do i do?
[01:50] <DiiPhantom> gnutron: ty
[01:50] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: what do you get if you type xrandr in the console?
[01:51] <merln> gribouille: let me check i think
[01:51] <rob227> so in terminal "pastebin amixer -c0"?
[01:51] <rob227> i need to copy it first right? How do i do it?
[01:52] <gnutron> rob227: is the audio jack plugged in all the wy
[01:52] <merln> sudo lshw
[01:52] <rob227> yes gnutron
[01:52] <rob227> i have been trying to figure it out for days
[01:52] <gnutron> rob227: do the amixer thing suggested
[01:53] <noobnoob> is gnome the gui on top of the kernel?
[01:53] <anto9us> rob227, click and select your text, then right click and copy
[01:53] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: still here?
[01:53] <noobnoob> !gnome
[01:53] <rob227> i am trying to figure out how to paste bin
[01:53] <McCallister> type into the terminal : cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:53] <rascal_is_here> any body help me
[01:53] <Loganhoup> rob227 http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:53] <fliegenderfrosch> noobnoob: you could put it like that, but gnome is only a part of the gui
[01:53] <gnutron> rob227: alsamixer might help check both channels, crank 'em up.
[01:54] <rascal_is_here> how to add auto welcome to a channel
[01:54] <recon69> sick to death of "connection intrupted" messages when i try login to web sites.
[01:54] <rob227> thanks Loganhoup
[01:54] <merln> gribouille: i have an intel card but i think its differnt from yours
[01:54] <Loganhoup> rob227 your welcome
[01:54] <rascal_is_here> anybody say how to add auto welcome to a channel
[01:54] <istvan> is manzur a bot?
[01:54] <noobnoob> gliegenderfrosch im guessing its just the appearance or theme?
[01:54] <noobnoob> gleigenderfrosch how would i compare it to a windows box ?
[01:54] <LjL> istvan: no, why?
[01:55] <merln> gribouille: scratch that i have a sound blaster audigy card
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> badawi: get an answer yet?
[01:55] <fliegenderfrosch> noobnoob: gnome is the desktop environment, which means it is a collection of programs which provide you with windows, a desktop, panels, and so on
[01:55] <McCallister> I have a Creative SB0090 Sound Blaster Audigy PCI Sound Card w/ SB1394 Firewire
[01:55] <noobnoob> !desktop
[01:56] <badawi> onetinsoldier: no i'm googling
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, i might be able to help
[01:56] <McCallister> Try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-463921.html
[01:56] <noobnoob> so i couild run kde or sfce on my existing ubuntu system?
[01:56] <Loganhoup> !flavors
[01:56] <badawi> onetinsoldier: please
[01:56] <rob227> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83261/plain/
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> badawi: well, first you need to unpack the source to the /usr/src directory
[01:56] <rob227> thanks again there is the pastebin ;)
[01:57] <McCallister> type alsamixer into terminal
[01:57] <norcim122> hello
[01:57] <fliegenderfrosch> noobnoob: have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[01:57] <merln> i have a SB Audigy sound card but i cant get sound working on my computer could anyone help me?
[01:57] <norcim122> can someone help with a logon problem?
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> badawi: what is the full name of the file?
[01:57] <anto9us> noobnoob, yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu or xubuntu
[01:57] <DiiPhantom> how can i see all the hidden folders?
[01:58] <rob227> crimsun: the pastebin you asked for http://paste.ubuntu.com/83261/plain/
[01:58] <israelito_solito> hey, fliegenderfrosch, yes
[01:58] <badawi> onetinsoldier: uqm_0.6.2.dfsg.orig.tar.gz
[01:58] <nbeebo> what cad program do u guyz recommend
[01:58] <iicsa> How do you sort a list, and return a copy of it? (not sort inline). Like new_list = old_list.sort()??
[01:58] <israelito_solito> I need to add this
[01:58] <fliegenderfrosch> DiiPhantom: in nautilus with control+h
[01:58] <israelito_solito> fliegenderfrosch:
[01:58] <israelito_solito> to my video card
[01:58] <Ximal> can anyone tell me if there's currently an issue with the new flash player ? i installed flash 10 . x and now it won't work period ... only youtube is working ... if that even half the time..
[01:58] <DiiPhantom> thats it! ty
[01:58] <gnutron> DiiPhantom: ls -la  from a terminal, in nautilus edit prefs.
[01:58] <israelito_solito> this: /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[01:58] <norcim122> anyone have a minute to help me
[01:58] <badawi> onetinsoldier: what i'm looking for is rebuilding it into a .deb file but with -g flag set
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok... cd /usr/src . then use the following command  tar -zxvf /path_to_file/uqm_0.6.2.dfsg.orig.tar.gz -C .
[01:59] <Loganhoup> diiphantom or just press Ctrl+h with natilus open
[01:59] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: just open a terminal, type xrandr, press enter and tell us what you got
[01:59] <crimsun> rob227: I'm offline for ~20 minutes for travel
[01:59] <israelito_solito> thanks
[01:59] <crimsun> rob227: please ping me in a bit
[01:59] <robert__> how do i install google chrome?
[02:00] <onetinsoldier> badawi: you will probably need to use the 'sudo' command in front of that
[02:00] <robert__> it beat firefox and epiphany in the acid test
[02:00] <norcim122> can someone help?
[02:00] <McCallister> google chrome is windows only
[02:00] <Pici> robert__: There is no native version of Chrome for Linux currently
[02:00] <McCallister> you might try opera
[02:00] <robert__> oh ok
[02:00] <robert__> are there plans for google to make it for linux?
[02:00] <israelito_solito> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 800, maximum 1280 x 1200
[02:00] <israelito_solito> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[02:00] <israelito_solito> LVDS connected 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 330mm x 210mm
[02:00] <israelito_solito>    1280x800       60.1*+
[02:00] <israelito_solito>    1024x768       60.0
[02:00] <israelito_solito>    800x600        60.3
[02:00] <FloodBot1> israelito_solito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <fliegenderfrosch> norcim122: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer he can answer it
[02:01] <robert__> is google making chrome for linux?
[02:01] <anto9us> nbeebo, BRL-CAD is worth a look
[02:01] <israelito_solito> I used it all the time with windows so
[02:01] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch thanks ... here goes
[02:01] <norcim122> I have an install in ubuntu USB persistent
[02:01] <israelito_solito> switch the monitor to the TV I mean
[02:01] <h00k> robert__,  yeah
[02:01] <h00k> robert__, eventually, it's in the works
[02:02] <norcim122> no at boot i get run-init: overmounting root: stale NFS File Handle
[02:02] <robert__> thanks
[02:02] <norcim122> this is the error ERROR> run-init: overmounting root: stale NFS File Handle
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> badawi: what's happening? you with me?
[02:03] <badawi> onetinsoldier: yes
[02:03] <nbeebo> anto9us, thanks dude
[02:03] <McCallister> Does anyone know of a driver that supports Creative SB0090 Sound Blaster Audigy PCI Sound Card w/ SB1394 Firewire ?
[02:03] <alex_21> DAISY is the Digital Accessible Information System, used by visually impaired people for print material, converted to speech I am looking for a guide to using DAISY Pipeline, and installing it. Does anyone know what I can try Googleing, because I run into brick walls everywhere so far, getting only DAISY Pipeline GUI, which isn't what I want
[02:03] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, is it unpacked?
[02:03] <israelito_solito> fliegenderfrosch, are you there_
[02:03] <israelito_solito> ?
[02:03] <badawi> onetinsoldier: yes but without -C in the end
[02:04] <norcim122> I have a usb install which gets this at boot:  ERROR> run-init: overmounting root: stale NFS File Handle
[02:04] <norcim122> any takers?
[02:04] <fliegenderfrosch> norcim122: to me it looks like it is trying to mount a NFS volume as root file system
[02:04] <Ximal> also heyguys ... for some reason i'm getting an error message from the   "501 Tor is not an HTTP Proxy" error .. are there any solutions to this if you use tor ?
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> badawi: well i don't know if it would have unpacked into  /usr/ src  dir then. did it?
[02:04] <badawi> onetinsoldier: yes it's unpacked
[02:04] <onetinsoldier> ok
[02:05] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch and that is bad?
[02:05] <onetinsoldier> badawi: does it have a 'debian' dir in there?
[02:05] <badawi> onetinsoldier: no
[02:05] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch  another clue is that   has PATH: /root/usr/bin:/root/usr/bin:/root/usr/bin:/root/usr/bin:
[02:06] <norcim122> I guess that is the overmounting part
[02:06] <badawi> onetinsoldier: ok if it apt-get source uqm, that unpacks it and creates the debian folder
[02:06] <israelito_solito> how can I add this file /etc/x11/xorg.conf to my video card?
[02:06] <badawi> onetinsoldier: s/it/i
[02:06] <nbeebo> whats the "best" for new apps?
[02:06] <nbeebo> best site*
[02:06] <fliegenderfrosch> norcim122: i don‘t know this exactly, maybe there is an entry in your /etc/fstab
[02:06] <ardchoille> israelito_solito: That's the wrong path
[02:06] <storrgie> can you run bastille on a headless box?
[02:06] <D-MAN> does anyone kow a program that will allow me to create invoices?
[02:07] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: it looks like it hasn‘t recognized your tv out
[02:07] <badawi> onetinsoldier: i got the debian folder, what's the next move
[02:07] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch  I will check
[02:07] <gnutron> nbeebo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:07] <ardchoille> israelito_solito: it should be /etc/X11/xorg.conf (Linux is case sensitive)
[02:07] <alex_21> Any acess users here?
[02:07] <anto9us> D-MAN, there's a template already in Openoffice.org spreadsheet
[02:07] <alex_21> Access, sorry
[02:07]  * Panarchy says Hi
[02:08] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, cool. now, i've never used the debian dir before, but i have seen the command for it. i have used a simple program called checkinstall to make .debs. but perhaps we can see if we can use the debian dir to build it
[02:08] <israelito_solito> thanks, but how can I get it to recognize it?
[02:08] <D-MAN> an do you know were to locate it?
[02:08] <fliegenderfrosch> israelito_solito: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the configuration file for the xserver, where your graphics card driver settings are stored.
[02:08] <badawi> onetinsoldier: sure
[02:08] <onetinsoldier> badawi: hang on a minute
[02:08] <D-MAN> anteaya,  do you know were to locate it?
[02:08] <ardchoille> !nvidia | israelito_solito
[02:08] <noobnoob> anto9us i would if i was downloading the entire internet
[02:09] <noobnoob> wasnt
[02:09] <mrwes> I see the ppa repos for open office 3.0 are working again for Ibex 8.10 -- anyone get them to work for 8.04?
[02:09] <israelito_solito> thanks everyone, I-ll give it a shot
[02:09] <storrgie> can I run the graphical version of bastille on my server using my laptops x window system?
[02:09] <revilodraw> hi! i have tried to print a test page for my new brother hl-2150n printer, and received this error '
[02:09] <revilodraw> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'." any ideas?
[02:09] <nbeebo> gnutron, not really what im looking for..
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok. do you see the 'Makefile' in there?
[02:10] <fliegenderfrosch> storrgie: it could work with ssh -X
[02:10] <McCallister>  0 [Audigy         ]: Audigy - Audigy 1 [Unknown]
[02:10] <McCallister>                       Audigy 1 [Unknown] (rev.3, serial:0x581102) at 0xdf80, irq 17
[02:10] <storrgie> fliegenderfrosch: how do i do that?
[02:10] <Panarchy> Hi, I'm trying to remove a package called libgnutls26, which I just added. However, it wants to remove all of these; [pastebox] http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Fcyl2l
[02:10] <badawi> onetinsoldier: no Makefile in debian or base_dir
[02:10] <storrgie> fliegenderfrosch: when i connect to ssh just throw the -X arg on there?
[02:11] <onetinsoldier> badawi: base_dir
[02:11] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch  what do i look for in fstab
[02:11] <fliegenderfrosch> storrgie: i think so
[02:11] <mrwes> I see the ppa repos for open office 3.0 are working again for Ibex 8.10 -- anyone get them to work for 8.04?
[02:11] <fliegenderfrosch> norcim122: a NFS entry
[02:11] <badawi> onetinsoldier: uqm-0.6.2.dfsg
[02:11] <onetinsoldier> badawi: yes
[02:11] <fliegenderfrosch> norcim122: but i have no idea if that is the problem, i’m just guessing
[02:11] <froggles> hi
[02:11] <mrwes> er
[02:12] <D-MAN> anteaya,  do you know were to locate it in open office spreadsheet?
[02:12] <froggles> is this the place to spread the word of the Klan?
[02:12] <mrwes> hah
[02:12] <musikgoat|main> absolutely not
[02:12] <froggles> ok ok... which is why i asked.
[02:12] <Panarchy> Please tell me what to do;
[02:12] <Panarchy> Hi, I'm trying to remove a package called libgnutls26, which I just added. However, it wants to remove all of these; [pastebox] http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Fcyl2l
[02:12] <anteaya> D-MAN, I have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry mate!
[02:12] <norcim122> fliegenderfrosch  I have this .................${UNIONFS} / ${UNIONFS} rw 0 0
[02:13] <onetinsoldier> badawi: well, one way to add the -g flag is to edit that file. but, now it been a while since i've done this, i think you can export the -g option as an environment variable. let's try that
[02:13] <L3Tum> how long should it take for the terminal to "read filenames from STDIN"? I've waited almost 10 mins, there are almost 400 files. It's showing just the blinking cursor, should I close the terminal and try to do less files at once?
[02:13] <badawi> onetinsoldier: sure
[02:13] <anto9us> D-MAN, can't find it at the moment, it used to be there, not used it for a while though, trying to locate, hang on
[02:13] <merln> sorry i accidentally closed out before i am having trouble getting sound working on my computer can anyone help?
[02:14] <D-MAN> anto9us,  kk i appreciate it!
[02:14] <froggles> Panarchy: thats cooky
[02:14] <tsrk> My flash drive isn't working and I'm getting the error "device not accepting address 9, error -110" in kern.log.  It doesn't work on windows either.  What's wrong with it?
[02:14] <SSilver2k> how do i tell if 3d acceleration is enabled on my system?
[02:14] <peeps_> hiya folks!
[02:14] <onetinsoldier> badawi: to do that, here's the command,   export "gcc=gcc -g"  ..however, let me try and look and see if i have that right
[02:14] <peeps_> http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:14] <mrwes> SSilver2k, open a terminal and type glxgears
[02:14] <froggles> i say let apt-get uninstall all those, then apt0get install them
[02:14] <peeps_> why am i getting that error?
[02:15] <storrgie> should I run bastille on my webserver?
[02:15] <qcjn> hi, after the screensaver, i can't open the computer, it leaves a black screen ?
[02:15] <gribouille> I have a Quadro FX 370 graphics card. what package should I install for the X server ?
[02:15] <storrgie> gribouille: nvidia 177 will handle your card fine
[02:15] <froggles> gribouille: you mean the driver ?
[02:15] <L3Tum> Is there any way to know if the terminal has frozen?
[02:15] <scientes> checkinstall mkdir is completely broken
[02:15] <gribouille> froggles, yes
[02:16] <storrgie> gribouille: what laptop are you using? my precision 4300 has that and I use the 177 driver
[02:16] <scientes> i have to run it then manually created the directories it needs in /usr/lloca/whatever
[02:16] <SSilver2k> im getting 550FPS in glxgears, i assume thats good?
[02:16] <Scunizi> I need a reference for a graphical pdf page extractor and merging utility.. pdfedit just doesn't seem to want to work
[02:16] <gribouille> storrgie, it's not a laptop, it's a workstation
[02:16] <Asako> try glxinfo
[02:16] <scientes> it does it like mkdir -p -- /usr/local/share/gtk-doc/html/libvirt
[02:16] <scientes>  and doesnt work
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> badawi: instead try   export "CCFLAGS=-g" ...there, i'm pretty certain that's how to do it.
[02:16] <scientes> how can i make this work
[02:16] <badawi> onetinsoldier: and what
[02:17] <storrgie> gribouille: i have a FX 360m, i was thinking 370 sorry
[02:17] <badawi> onetinsoldier: and what's the command to build the .deb package?
[02:17] <onetinsoldier> badawi: you can see that with  echo "$CCFLAGS"
[02:17] <gnutron> L3Tum: type reset, or try ctrl+c first
[02:17] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: i don't think the quattro cards work with the default drivers...
[02:17] <onetinsoldier> badawi: do you have the CCFLAGS environment variable set?
[02:17] <froggles> i have an nVidia 8400GS, a pci card. when i watch high quality movies and dvd's there's a random,  glitch like ripple accross mplayer/xine.  but when i had my prior card (nvidia mx4000), that never happened.
[02:17] <gribouille> storrgie, what is the name of the package containing the 177 driver ?
[02:17] <badawi> onetinsoldier: yes
[02:17] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: mine works fine, and 177 glx works fine on most of them
[02:17] <mib_b2ny13hw> Hey guys I got my boot fixed by reinstalling ubuntu
[02:18] <musikgoat|main> on a quattro? didn't they have special drivers?
[02:18] <qcjn> hi gnutron
[02:18] <mib_b2ny13hw> now how do I uninstall ubuntu safely?
[02:18] <L3Tum> gnutron: what does reset or ctrl+c do?
[02:18] <gnutron> qcjn: yo
[02:18] <peeps_> why am i getting this error?
[02:18] <peeps_> http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:18] <storrgie> quattro?
[02:18] <storrgie> u mean quadro?
[02:18] <onetinsoldier> bascule: ok. now, as root, or perhaps you can use the 'sudo' command, while in the base_dir, type in   sudo debian/rules binary
[02:18] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: sorry, yeah
[02:18] <gnutron> L3Tum: reset, resets and clears the terminal buffer, ctrl-c aborts what might be running
[02:19] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: yea glx-177 supports them
[02:19] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: i'm going with you on this
[02:19] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: must have been back in the day
[02:19] <Scunizi> froggles: the newer nvidia 180.11 driver will probably fix that.. It fixed many of my issues.. install instructions are on the forums.. just search for 180.06 and you'll see it.
[02:19] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: well we could check the package information
[02:19] <badawi> onetinsoldier: is it CCFLAGS or CFLAG?
[02:19] <storrgie> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/nvidia-glx-177
[02:19] <musikgoat|main> storrgie: your right
[02:20] <storrgie> musikgoat|main: quadro fx 370 is in there
[02:20] <onetinsoldier> badawi: hmm, been so long, perhaps it is CFLAG
[02:20] <qcjn> gnutron: after the screensaver, my computer stay,s in blackscreen, and i can't have access to the computer, so i have to restart
[02:20] <gribouille> there is no nvidia-glx-177 in hardy 64 bit !
[02:20] <storrgie> hmmm
[02:20] <onetinsoldier> badawi: yep. i think it is CFLAG]
[02:20] <storrgie> yes that might be a problem
[02:20] <musikgoat|main> gribouille: there should be, thats what i'm running
[02:20] <storrgie> gribouille: have you ever installed the nvidia drivers? (from nvidia)
[02:20] <badawi> onetinsoldier: it's building with CCFLAGS, i'll try CFLAG in a minute
[02:20] <peeps_> why am i getting this error?    http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:20] <gnutron> qcjn: just restart x-windows ctrl+alt+backspace i think.
[02:21] <gribouille> storrgie, no
[02:21] <storrgie> gribouille: that might be a better option for you, why are you stuck in 8.04?
[02:21] <qcjn> like ...right now ?
[02:21] <gribouille> storrgie, because it's LTS
[02:21] <onetinsoldier> badawi: i think your right CFLAGS. CFLAGS is for the C compiler options, while i believe that CCFLAGS is for the C++ options
[02:21] <storrgie> gribouille: alright well... install the nvidia bin driver, if you want assistance you can message me
[02:21] <gribouille> musikgoat|main, are you using 64 bit hardy ?
[02:21] <badawi> onetinsoldier: know what, i'll export all of them and try again :)
[02:22] <anto9us> D-MAN, can't find it in the repos but there's one here http://smalldataproblem.org/ooextras/downloads/english/index.php?tab=Calc
[02:22] <fliegenderfrosch> i gotta go to sleep now, see you
[02:22] <gnutron> qcjn: sure, if you have irssi in a screen, you wont drop your irc connection.
[02:22] <noobnoob_> how do i join another irc server and keep these channels open on this server in xchat?
[02:22] <gribouille> storrgie, you mean the driver from the ubuntu repos ?
[02:22] <qcjn> gnutron: ok
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok.. but if you are redoing, you need to run a clean command
[02:22] <musikgoat|main> gribouille: no, intrepid, i picked up on that late, i'll let storrgie help you :-P
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> badawi: or remove the dir and unpack it again
[02:22] <storrgie> gribouille: just pm me, i cant watch this thread my eyes hurt
[02:23] <froggles> Scunizi: cool thanx
[02:23] <mrwes> I see the ppa repos for open office 3.0 are working again for Ibex 8.10 -- anyone get them to work for 8.04?
[02:23] <froggles> Scunizi: i thought there was only one nvidia driver
[02:23] <mrwes> re McCallister
[02:24] <McCallister> Hey guys.
[02:24] <gnutron> noobnoob_: xchat |help
[02:24] <corinth> rg
[02:25] <gnutron> noobnoob_: xchat should do multiple servers, though i don't know the exact command.
[02:25] <mib_b2ny13hw> where do I type fixmbr in vista reovery mode? Do I start command line or something?
[02:25] <onetinsoldier> badawi: if you need to clean the source for a clean compile, try  sudo debuild clean
[02:25] <McCallister> You can connect to multiple servers and channels in xchat.
[02:25] <onetinsoldier> badawi: again, i've never done this using the debian build dir
[02:25] <peeps_> why am i getting this error? http://pastebin.com/m3a9a9f39
[02:26] <anto9us> noobnoob, ctrl+t then type /server <address>
[02:26] <badawi> onetinsoldier: ok got the .deb file!! now to see if it has the debugging information
[02:26] <McCallister> Just create new tabs in xchat.
[02:26] <onetinsoldier> badawi: roger, gl!
[02:27] <Bax> I want to empty a .Trash folder on a partition.  I can type rm -rf * in that folder and it will delete everything in ONLY that folder, right?
[02:27] <mrwes> noobnoob, you can also use Ctrl + W to close a tab -- just like in Firefox
[02:27] <mrwes> Bax, heh
[02:27] <badawi> onetinsoldier: didn't work :( (no debugging symbols found)
[02:27] <mrwes> making sure aye?
[02:27] <gnutron> peeps_: try mount -t vfat /media/floppy/
[02:27] <anto9us> Bax, provided that folder is the PWD (present working directory)
[02:28] <McCallister> is there an easy way to save the open servers/channels you have in xchat so that they open next time you open the program?
[02:28] <Yamikuronue> I reinstalled ubuntu after it was working (long story, was trying to do something that didn't work so I ended up reformatting again) and now the desktop won't load. I'm very much unfamiliar with the command line... can anyone help me figure out how to get it back up?
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> badawi: dang... well, you can edit the Makefile and see if that works
[02:28] <D-MAN> anto thanks that helps allot now i can get paid !
[02:28] <noobnoob_> gnutron thx
[02:28] <gnutron> peeps_: or try mount -t vfat /dev/floppy /media/floppy/
[02:28] <badawi> onetinsoldier: we're close i'll try changing config.state in debian
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok
[02:28] <mrwes> Bax, you can type pwd at the prompt to make sure you're in the correct directory
[02:29] <qcjn> gnutron: it was the right command, it restarted, it unconnected xchat, thought.. But i won't know if it's working till the screensaver starts again ? or the energie saver ?
[02:30] <gnutron> qcjn: the screensaver probably didnt agree with the box resources or video driver, use another screensaver.
[02:31] <L3Tum> when browsing, like to upload pictures, is there a hotkey to view as thumbnails instead of list? I can't select multiple files in list.
[02:31] <anto9us> McCallister, yes, ctrl+s and edit the Network server, add favourite #channels seperated by a comma and without spaces
[02:31] <gribouille> storrgie, I'm not chatting on the workstation
[02:32] <qcjn> gnutron: i did change screensaver ! just before i asked the question i came back to the older one !
[02:33] <the_dark_warrio> sometimes, when scrolling large pages, or text files, the sound interrupts for a while and than starts again. Any hints?
[02:33] <gribouille> storrgie, kde
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> badawi: Ur-Quan Masters is Star Control released as free open source. i used to play Star Control way back on a game console called a 3DO.
[02:35] <qcjn> gnutron: but if i wan,t to use another screensaver and it does the samething (comes black and can't do anything anymore) . Can i restart x? ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[02:35] <nbeebo> whats a simple easy good forum solution (SOFTWARE)? lol
[02:35] <gnutron> qcjn: yes
[02:35] <storrgie> ummmm in gnome there is GDM, what is it called in KDE?
[02:35] <onetinsoldier> kdm
[02:35] <qcjn> ok,
[02:36] <badawi> onetinsoldier: ok, for debugging, uqm creates uqm-debug, but debian isn't including it in the .deb
[02:36] <storrgie> onetinsoldier: thnnkx.,
[02:36] <L3Tum> ok so apparently ubuntu does not support thumbnail views when browsing files. so is there a way to select all files or select multiple files when browsing?
[02:36] <anto9us> the_dark_warrio, your processor isn't keeping up with the demand, look at what's eating up resources, try different apps for doing what you're doing that are less processor intensive
[02:37] <onetinsoldier> badawi: hmmm, you could use checkinstall to make the .deb. but it's more simplistic. the .deb won't contain stuff like all the dependency information and things of that nature
[02:37] <Static--> is there a command to launch gnome gdm, so i can use it as a lock screen?
[02:37] <gnutron> L3Tum: gthumb does thumbnails
[02:37] <BazookaAce> <L3Tum: yes it does
[02:37] <zxus> hey
[02:37] <BazookaAce> yo
[02:37] <Lossif> Hey, I just installed a new HD in my mythbox, Mounted and shared it and I can see it on the network but for some reason it is readonly
[02:38] <zxus> Just installed unbuntu, its aswome =D
[02:38] <ardchoille> zxus: :)
[02:38] <zelrikriando> zxus, glad you like it
[02:38] <gnutron> Static--: /etc/init.d/gdm  start | stop   lock screen is in your logoff menu.
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> badawi: is uqm-debug a toaly separate executable?
[02:38] <onetinsoldier> tottaly*
[02:38] <evgeni> Ho
[02:38] <evgeni> hi
[02:39] <Static--> gnutron: i know where lock is, but i want to launch gdm to use it insead of lock screen
[02:39] <zxus> yeah, thanks, i've gotta go play more, i'll be back to bug you guys with my problems soon =P peace people !
[02:39] <badawi> onetinsoldier: yes otherwise it's uqm
[02:39] <L3Tum> gnutron, BazookaAce: Is there either a hotkey or way to change from list view to thumbnail view, or a way to select multiple files from list view? I'm trying to upload some pics but there are almost 400 of them, and I can't select more than one at a time from the list view
[02:39] <the_dark_warrio> anto9us: I was working with Bless, a hex editor, and when I scrolled the window, the music interrupted. I think gnome is a little bit heavy
[02:39] <noobnoob_> its just be against the world baby
[02:39] <noobnoob_> !xchat
[02:39] <evgeni> I tried to set up a msql/php/html server using lamp method... Everything is set up accept that I don't know my mysql password
[02:39] <ardchoille> badawi: I had no idea that game was in the repos
[02:40] <gnutron> Static--: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm  start or stop
[02:40] <evgeni> can you help me to find it
[02:40] <l7> how do i get a program to start when i log in?  i want to get tomboy notes to start automatically - minimized if possible
[02:40] <Static--> gnutron: doesnt that just start the service, not launch it
[02:40] <badawi> ardchoille: it's been there for a looong time
[02:40] <onetinsoldier> badawi: i'm thinking checkinstall wouldn't include either, but i could be wrong. you would probably need to edit some file in the debian dir, or perhaps the Makefile in base_dir, in order to get it included in the .deb
[02:41] <onetinsoldier> badawi: if you want i can download this and start looking at it myself
[02:41] <tsopp> Hey got a quick question, I'm using ffmpeg, trying to change an .avi to a .flv but its telling me "unknown format" for the .avi file, is there something i'm missing?
[02:41] <tsopp> s/change/convert/
[02:41] <badawi> onetinsoldier: don't bother, unless you want to play it too ;)
[02:41] <anto9us> everyone_, system | preferences | sessions | startup programs, add
[02:41] <eli_> Any one know howto resolve this error? ‘const char*’ to ‘char [6]’
[02:41] <fushorts> l7, system > preferences > sessions
[02:41] <Static--> is there a command to launch gnome gdm, so i can use it as a lock screen?
[02:42] <dj_ee3> Anyone knows how I can find my mysql password ?? I am using LAMP ...
[02:42] <badawi> onetinsoldier: i got by debug file, it's not that much of a problem that it's not installed, i can copy the file manually
[02:42] <l7> fushorts: thanks, i'm trying that
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> badawi: i will do it. this has been a good refresher for me, besides, like the game and have installed older versions of uqm in linux as well as in windows
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, whatever works, but i will take a look anyway
[02:43] <badawi> onetinsoldier: i need the debug version to cheat, the game is sooo hard
[02:43] <schnauzer> Static--, If you want to lock your screen, use [Ctrl]+[Alt]+L
[02:43] <zhjawe> My 3D accelerate card is Geforce2 mx 400,the refresh rate is always 50HZ.
[02:43] <onetinsoldier> badawi: oh, hehe
[02:43] <anto9us> tsopp, you should make sure you have all the codecs installed
[02:43] <tsopp> anto9us: well not sure which one i am missing :P
[02:43] <anto9us> !restricted
[02:43] <gnutron> Static--: it starts the gnome desktop
[02:43] <badawi> onetinsoldier: pause when it's about to save, and change the values on the fly >:)
[02:44] <tsopp> anto9us: well yea, those codecs I have.
[02:44] <Static--> schnauzer: i know how to lock the screen, i want to use gdm instead of the lock screen
[02:44] <anto9us> tsopp, does the file play in vlc?
[02:44] <Yamikuronue> hmm. Startx gives me "Fatal server error: no screens found" followed by "xinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server" followed by "xinit: no such process (errno 3): server error" followed by dumping me back at the command line. If that helps at all with the not loading the desktop thing.
[02:44] <l7> another question: how can i start firefox with the same window position and dimensions every time?
[02:44] <schnauzer> Static--, ohh, in that case, i think you can use "switch user" for that, if that's the result you want
[02:44] <gnutron> Static--: that doesn't make sense to me !
[02:45] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ahh, i see. the game is hard, but i have beaten it without cheat. but i have to save a lot and restart from my saves. ;-)
[02:45] <fushorts> l7 that should save automagically
[02:45] <froggles> Scunizi: is it 180.11 driver or  180.06 ?
[02:45] <froggles> you mentioned both
[02:45] <schnauzer> Static--, System > Log out [username] > Switch User
[02:46] <gnutron> l7: i think system - prefs - sessions you toggle save session settings.
[02:46] <froggles> Scunizi: you were talking about the nvidia driver.
[02:46] <l7> hmm, it seems when terminal is occupying the top left corner, firefox will not open in the top left corner as well
[02:46] <schnauzer> Your programs will remain, but you will get your login screen instead of a lock screen
[02:46] <Lossif> is there a reason why my samba share is readonly even if it should be set to share?
[02:46] <mdmkolbe> What is intrepid-backports?
[02:46] <l7> basically i want several apps to open in the top left corner rather thank looking for a "free" corner...
[02:46] <storrgie> how do i update/install the linux headers?
[02:46] <Yamikuronue> do I maybe need some sort of video card driver?
[02:47] <asrael> a generic linux question... how is it possible that a script runs fine when i start, but when the same users crontab runs it, i get errors?
[02:47] <fushorts> l7, i know if you have advanced desktop settings it is possible for the most part
[02:47] <mdmkolbe> Is it (intrepid-backports) ports from older versions to intrepid or ports from newer versions to intrepid?
[02:47] <qcjn> schnauzer: will the program still continue, like the music continue playing ?
[02:47] <storrgie> how do i install/update my linux headers?!?!?!?!
[02:47] <fushorts> l7, you can get that from add/remove programs if you dont have it already
[02:48] <anto9us> mdmkolbe, newer versions
[02:48] <ardchoille> mdmkolbe: my understanding is that backports are apps from newer versions of Ubuntu
[02:48] <l7> gnutron: hmm, system - prefs - sessions doesn't quite work as it doesn't save window positions but thanks anyhow
[02:48] <asrael> storrgie apt-get install linux-headers-version
[02:48] <schnauzer> I'm using Rhythmbox, and it seems to pause the music.
[02:48] <mdmkolbe> anto9us, ardchoille: thx
[02:49] <badawi> onetinsoldier: hey thanks for your dedicated help btw
[02:49] <qcjn> schnauzer: i use mpd
[02:49] <RequinB4> asrael: replace version with `uname -r` (with the `)
[02:49] <schnauzer> However, the programs will retain their info; If you're typing a document, you can continue where you left off earlier
[02:49] <onetinsoldier> badawi: yw, although i was obviously rusty
[02:49] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to play Yo Frankie, or in other words, the Apricot open game. But I only get a gray screen. I'm using the open ati drivers. What's going on? Do I have to use fglrx?
[02:49] <schnauzer> qcjn: I'm afraid I don't know, then.
[02:50] <onetinsoldier> badawi: what window manager do you use?
[02:50] <qcjn> i ll try it
[02:50] <asrael> back to my question... ^^' how is it possible that a script runs fine when i start, but when the same users crontab runs it, i get errors?
[02:50] <badawi> onetinsoldier: right now it's gnome or gnome/openbox
[02:50] <badawi> onetinsoldier: when i'm remote
[02:50] <mylisto> question...
[02:50] <mylisto> I've got a .sh file...
[02:50] <Chriger[Ecl]> Ubuntu is AWSOME!
[02:50] <l7> fushorts: hmm, i'm searching for it...
[02:50] <mylisto> Its a script (me thinks) to install twonky
[02:50] <mylisto> how do I run the script?
[02:51] <Bitfish> Chriger[Ecl], it sure is, yep!
[02:51] <asrael> mylisto, allow it to run (chmod +x filename) and ./filename
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> badawi: gnome is the environment. do you know what window manager it is? enlightenment(e16), xfce? icewm?
[02:51] <schnauzer> ./script or sh script
[02:51] <[TiZ]> mylisto, right click it, properties, click the Permissions tab, and add execute permissions. then just double click it.
[02:51] <asrael> or sh filename
[02:51] <ShaunWing> say does ubuntu come standard with a putty like program?
[02:51] <kristian_> what bittorrent client and partition editor do people use?
[02:51] <ShaunWing> Assumed it would?
[02:51] <badawi> onetinsoldier: metacity, but openbox for vnc
[02:51] <wan> thx - bye
[02:51] <Bitfish> ShaunWing, you mean SSH?
[02:52] <asrael> kristian_, utorrent and fdisk
[02:52] <ShaunWing> yes
[02:52] <mylisto> ah..
[02:52] <mylisto> thanks
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> badawi: roger that. are you using 64-bit install?
[02:52] <ardchoille> ShaunWing: Ubuntu comes with ssh
[02:52] <Bitfish> ShaunWing, there is a PuTTy-alike client available, but SSH is builtin
[02:52] <l7> fushorts: did you mean simple-ccsm?
[02:52] <gnutron> ShaunWing: apt-cache search putty   its there
[02:52] <badawi> onetinsoldier: no 32
[02:52] <fushorts> l7, up top you need to make sure you have it set to all available applications, then it is called Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)
[02:52] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to play Yo Frankie, or in other words, the Apricot open game. But I only get a gray screen. I'm using the open ati drivers. What's going on? Do I have to use fglrx?
[02:52] <Bitfish> ShaunWing, just type 'ssh user@host' in your Terminal
[02:52] <Yamikuronue> ...so no advice, huh?
[02:53] <asrael> guys, any1 use crontabs? for some reason it gives error when i run a script that runs normally fine
[02:53] <Lossif> how do you find the permissions of a directory?
[02:53] <Lossif> in terminal
[02:53] <asrael> Lossif, ls -l dir
[02:53] <ShaunWing> tx but looking for an X ssh application like putty
[02:53] <[TiZ]> Yamikuronue, did you ask a question? I don't see one from you when I scroll back.
[02:53] <Bitfish> Yamikuronue, in what?
[02:53] <peleg> I type mplayer -really-quiet /home/peleg/.voicemem/voice.wav 2>&1 > /dev/null   --- it plays well enough, but still I recieve two error messages ("mplayer: could not connect to socket" and "mplayer: No such file or directory
[02:53] <Bitfish> s/in/on
[02:53] <Yamikuronue> [21:28] <Yamikuronue> I reinstalled ubuntu after it was working (long story, was trying to do something that didn't work so I ended up reformatting again) and now the desktop won't load. I'm very much unfamiliar with the command line... can anyone help me figure out how to get it back up?
[02:53] <l7> fushorts: you mean make sure there's a check mark next to all the third party software repos?
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, copy. i was going to ask if you wanted to try something. i made the Makefile work for x86_64 for an old program call 'xsnow'. it would need to be edited again to make it work for 32-bit tho
[02:53] <SergeantPony> I updated from 7.10 to 8.10 and for some reason it won't boot using kernel 2.6.27-10-generic, it will booot using 2.6.24-22-generic. Any specific reason why?
[02:54] <peleg> what's happening? how come mplayer does not shut up?
[02:54] <[TiZ]> Desktop won't load? Please elaborate more.
[02:54] <Bitfish> Yamikuronue, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:54] <Yamikuronue> the... gnome or whatever. The GUI. I'm just staring at a command prompt and I've never (before today) used a unix/linux command prompt, though google has been helping me learn.
[02:55] <schnauzer> Yamikuronue: "startx"
[02:55] <fushorts> l7, on mine it is just a selection on the top that says All available applications
[02:55] <Yamikuronue> I tried that. It claims to be running gnome and restarts fine but I'm still at a prompt
[02:55] <badawi> onetinsoldier: what do you need? i think xsnow is already there in the repo
[02:55] <Yamikuronue> Startx gives me "Fatal server error: no screens found" followed by "xinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server" followed by "xinit: no such process (errno 3): server error" followed by dumping me back at the command line.
[02:55] <ShaunWing> say how do I install putty?
[02:55] <Bitfish> Yamikuronue, type this in your terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:55] <ohcrapitsgone> How do I configure grub to boot vista?
[02:55] <schnauzer> Alt+F7 maybe?
[02:55] <[TiZ]> Yamikuronue, what about -- okay. That's more useful.
[02:55] <qcjn> schnauzer: the music continued, but firefox & xchat closed
[02:55] <SergeantPony> I updated from 7.10 to 8.10 and for some reason it won't boot using kernel 2.6.27-10-generic, it will booot using 2.6.24-22-generic. Any specific reason why? this is on a Toshiba Satellite laptop
[02:55] <[TiZ]> What version of Ubuntu are you trying to run?
[02:55] <ari_stress> Yamikuronue: sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm
[02:55] <mylisto> ok...
[02:55] <mylisto> not working
[02:55] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: case sensitive startx
[02:55] <nnull> guys, im trying to open nvidia-settings, but it says when i try open that x driver isnt in use, but the restricted driver for my software is in use according to hardware drivers???
[02:55] <schnauzer> qcjn: thats odd, im not sure what caused thatr
[02:55] <[TiZ]> No, that's sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm. It needs a hyphen
[02:56] <l7> fushorts: http://phubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/advanced-desktop-effects-settings/ seems to suggest the package is compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:56] <Bitfish> ShaunWing, well, lemme see
[02:56] <l7> fushorts: is that the package you're referring to?
[02:56] <gnutron> ShaunWing: sudo apt-get install putty
[02:56] <Bitfish> ShaunWing, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/putty
[02:56] <onetinsoldier> badawi: oh, it might be in ubuntu. i'm using regular debian here. it's not in available in debian. but i just got downloading ubuntu 8.10 a bit ago because i thought i'd install it to see what it's all about.
[02:56] <RequinB4> !info putty
[02:57] <fattmoley> Can anyone tell me how to start the NVIDIA X Server Settings program with root privileges? Also how do I restart the X Server?
[02:57] <[TiZ]> Yamikuronue, another thing you could do is sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:57] <ShaunWing> tx
[02:57] <RequinB4> [TiZ]: that command does next to nothing in hardy +
[02:57] <qcjn> schnauzer: well i did it with the red close button (upper right) disconnect !
[02:57] <Yamikuronue> yeesh, I found the update command and it's apparently got a lot of updates. I'll try both those in one minute when it finishes.
[02:57] <gds_lumut> ab_d
[02:57] <[TiZ]> RequinB4: Next to nothing is better than nothing.
[02:58] <[TiZ]> What does the "fix xserver" thing in the recovery menu do, then?
[02:58] <afeijo> how can I check if my user is under quota (disk space) ?
[02:58] <fushorts> l7, yeah
[02:58] <schnauzer> qcjn: on the panel?
[02:58] <daemonicum> okay: question: running ubuntu.. i have some drives, which i DO want to mount on startup, but u don't want them to be shown on the "desktop"... what do i do?
[02:58] <badawi> onetinsoldier: it's debian testing with a re renamed firefox and morbid emphasis on sudo
[02:58] <onetinsoldier> badawi: i'll have three linux installs. debian lenny, debian sid, and ubuntu, lol. and then winxp pro to boot.. lol. i can hardly keep up witjh them all. anyway, i'm off to install. gl with uqm!
[02:58] <fattmoley> Can anyone tell me how to start the NVIDIA X Server Settings program with root privileges? Also how do I restart the X Server?
[02:59] <anto9us> ohcrapitsgone,  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default to whatever line number windows would appear at in that list
[02:59] <qcjn> schnauzer: the upper bar right of the time
[02:59] <daemonicum> fattmoley xserver restart is ctrl alt backspace
[02:59] <fushorts> l7, after it is installed on mine it turns to the compiz name however in the Add/Remove programs list it was the advanced desktop settings name
[02:59] <[TiZ]> daemonicium, you can either hide all volumes from the desktop, or show all volumes from the desktop. Nothing in between.
[02:59] <onetinsoldier> badawi: a morbid emphasis eh? hehe
[02:59] <gnutron> fattmoley: i think  its sudo nvidia-settings in a terminal
[02:59] <fattmoley> Thanks
[02:59] <nnull> fattmoley¬ gksu nvidia-settings & ctrl + alt + backspace
[02:59] <SergeantPony> I updated from 7.10 to 8.10 and for some reason it won't boot using kernel 2.6.27-10-generic, it will booot using 2.6.24-22-generic. Any specific reason why?
[02:59] <onetinsoldier> badawi: what happens if you don't use sudo?
[02:59] <l7> fushorts: which version of ubuntu do you have by the way?
[02:59] <badawi> !sudo
[02:59] <asrael> any1 use crontabs? for some reason it gives error when i run a script that runs normally fine... any idea?
[03:00] <schnauzer> qcjn: I'm afraid I don't know how to help you
[03:00] <nnull> when i try to start nvidia-settings it says im not using X server
[03:00] <anto9us> SergeantPony, run updates and upgrades and try again
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> SergeantPony did you go through 8.04
[03:00] <nnull> but if i check in hardware drivers i am using proprietry driver
[03:00] <qcjn> schnauzer: i'm just telling you what i did!
[03:00] <afeijo> how can I check if my user is under quota (disk space) ? it tells me 'no disk space' but I have 6 gb
[03:00] <badawi> onetinsoldier: from the link ubottu gave -> . If you believe you need a root account to perform a certain action, please consult the official support channels first, to make sure there is not a better alternative.
[03:00] <daemonicum> anyone got an answer to my question?
[03:00] <xorxes> Anyone know how to format a partition to hfs+ ??
[03:00] <badawi> onetinsoldier: lol
[03:00] <SergeantPony> jack_sparrow I did all upgrades / updatews when they came out. it stops on loading hardware drivers
[03:00] <fushorts> l7, 8.10 currently but it has been that way fro me since 7.04 i believe
[03:01] <daemonicum> xorxes use an os x install disk ^^
[03:01] <badawi> onetinsoldier: there's a section called -> Re-disabling your root account
[03:01] <onetinsoldier> badawi: ok, see ya later. have fun
[03:01] <badawi> onetinsoldier: later
[03:01] <xorxes> daemonicum....lol. i tried that, believe me. it didnt work, so my last resort is to do it from linux
[03:01] <ShaunWing> sudo apt-get install putty ---> couldn't find package ... any ideas?
[03:01] <onetinsoldier> badawi: i'll have a look at it befoe i install
[03:01] <daemonicum> xorxes what.. seriously?
[03:01] <anto9us> daemonicum, I think there's a tweak in gconf-editor for that somewhere
[03:02] <daemonicum> via diskutil you should get it done
[03:02] <[TiZ]> daemonicum, you can either hide all volumes from the desktop, or show all volumes from the desktop. Nothing in between.
[03:02] <asrael> ShaunWing why would you need putty?
[03:02] <gnutron> ShaunWing: open synaptic, enable reositories
[03:02] <gnutron> asrael: good question ;p
[03:02] <clickster> Hello, how do I elevate to superuser status in sudo?
[03:02] <ShaunWing> to vie multiple ssh clients
[03:02] <daemonicum> [TiZ] how so?
[03:02] <ohcrapitsgone> anto9us: I installed Linux after Vista and unlike with XP Vista wasn't auto detected and I have no entry for it and I'm screwed.....
[03:02] <daemonicum> that would help already.. like.. how do i do htat
[03:02] <daemonicum> ?
[03:02] <exodus_ms> windoze? putty?
[03:03] <[TiZ]> Wanna do it through GUI, or CLI?
[03:03] <McCallister> Where do programs generally get installed to?
[03:03] <l7> fushorts: ah well thanks for the tip, switching the placement mode to cascade in compizconfig is a bit nicer
[03:03] <daemonicum> xorxes diskutil should actually do the trick
[03:03] <ShaunWing> and store their login info easily...
[03:03] <Lossif> if I set up a samba share in my /media directory would I need to change the permissions of that folder?
[03:03] <fushorts> l7, sorry i cant be of more help good luck
[03:03] <daemonicum> [TiZ] it's not for me actually, so rather gui
[03:03] <anto9us> ohcrapitsgone, I believe you can configure grub to do it, I've never had to though
[03:03] <qcjn> anyway, other subject..i couldn't play the video or diaporama so i wen't and changed in xorg.conf...section screen, defaultdeph to 16 instead of 24, and now it works..But the quality seems to have "diminushed" ---not sure of this word --firs language is french
[03:03] <Yamikuronue> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm says "changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended". I've also noticed my screen is blinking oddly from time to time.
[03:04] <[TiZ]> daemonicum, okay. So hit Alt+f2, type gconf-editor, and hit enter. Go to apps -> nautilus, and change show_volumes to false. Done.
[03:04] <ohcrapitsgone> anto9us: Darn, I can't seem to get help with this and I really need to be able to get into Vista tonight. Thanks for trying to help.
[03:04] <l7> fushorts:  it's cool, cascaded windows is a bit of an improvement for not too much work
[03:04] <unicum> [TiZ] i'll try.. thx is coming soon ^^
[03:04] <Yamikuronue> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg warns me "overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; backiup in /etc/x11/xorg.comf.20081209220409". Still looking at a prompt.
[03:05] <[TiZ]> Yamikuronue, restart.
[03:05] <fushorts> l7, fair enough :)
[03:05] <schnauzer> qcjn: That's because you've changed your color settings to display fewer colors
[03:06] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: try just 'start'  looks like a buntu thing i dunno
[03:07] <Yamikuronue> rebooting puts me at a prompt
[03:07] <Yamikuronue> start gives me "missing job name"
[03:07] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:08] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: you've tried that right?
[03:08] <Yamikuronue> "* starting GNOME Display Manager... [OK]" followed by a prompt
[03:09] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: check your x log in /var/log/
[03:09] <McCallister> I installed tomboy using the synaptic package manager and I can't open the program.
[03:09] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: something is missing or just whacked but fixable.
[03:09] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: how do I do that? Again, absolute command line newbie, I'm used to dos commands
[03:10] <keymaster> irc
[03:10] <keymaster> irc
[03:11] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: like, I figured out using google how to nagivate to the directory, but what program do I use to open the log and what's the command for that?
[03:11] <anto9us> McCallister, type tomboy in a terminal and see what it says
[03:11] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: sudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log   its scrollable, spacebar, page-up
[03:11] <Yamikuronue> thanks
[03:12] <Yamikuronue> what am I looking for? I presume at the bottom, right?
[03:12] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: correct
[03:12] <McCallister> That did the trick! How can I add it to my applications list?
[03:13] <anto9us> McCallister, it should already be under accessories
[03:13] <unicum> http://helios.wh2.tu-dresden.de/~unicum/usual_suspects.jpg
[03:13] <McCallister> It is, I'm blind. Thanks.
[03:14] <l7> does anyone know how to adjust stickiness in compizconfig?  i want to get windows to stop sticking to the edge of the screen
[03:14] <Yamikuronue> the end of it tells me again "Fatal server error: no screens found".
[03:14] <Yamikuronue> Before that, "(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/muodules/drivers//vesa_drv.so  (II)Module vesa: vender="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.5.0, module version = 1.3.0 Module class = X.org Video Driver  ABI class: x.Org Video Driver, version 4.1   (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets:vesa  (II) Primary Device is:  (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa  (EE) No devices detected."
[03:15] <keres_> what is the apt-get for firefox?
[03:15] <Yamikuronue> with of course each (II) thing starting a new line
[03:15] <keres_> is it "sudo apt-get install firefox" ?
[03:16] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  it should probe for the driver
[03:16]  * Panarchy says Hi
[03:16] <keres_> i guess it works :S
[03:16] <Yamikuronue> how do I get back to the prompt?
[03:16] <vboxw> keres: this may help - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-firefox-3-beta-2-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[03:16] <Panarchy> I'm trying to work out how to install a .deb via command line?
[03:17] <gnutron> Panarchy: sudo dpkg -i name.deb
[03:17] <kindofabuzz> dpkg -i <whatever>.deb
[03:17] <Panarchy> As I only know how to install .rpm via command line
[03:17] <schnauzer> Panarchy: dpkg -i [package]
[03:17] <slayerboyWRK> Panarchy: check out http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-dpkg-to-install-deb-files/ for more info
[03:17] <bryanbuchanan> anyone know how to get wireless interweb working on a fresh install?
[03:17] <Baba_B00ie> Panarchy, sudo apt-get install firefox   ... should work
[03:17] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: type q
[03:17] <azfira_> hjhfxj
[03:18] <slayerboyWRK> bryanbuchanan: depends on what kind of wireless card you have
[03:18] <Panarchy> Can someone help me find the latest version of libgnutls
[03:18] <Panarchy> Can someone help me find the latest version of libgnutls13
[03:18] <bryanbuchanan> I'm a complete linux noob, if you could point me in the right direction, I'd be pumped
[03:19] <bryanbuchanan> starting with how to find out what wireless card this thing has :)
[03:19] <Panarchy> if I guess right, should work just now
[03:19] <gnutron> !wifi | bryanbuchanan
[03:19] <Mal3ko> how do we kill hang session?
[03:19] <Yamikuronue> ah, thanks. Do I want to use the kernel's framebuffer device interface?
[03:19] <McCallister> Thanks for recommending Tomboy notes, it's really great.
[03:19] <Panarchy> Can someone help me find the latest version of libgnutls13? As I need it for wireshark-common, the latest version, which isn't available in apt.
[03:20] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: that could be the problem, i would say no, but yes might work.
[03:20] <viator> what packages do i need forStandard C runtime library development  Standard C++ runtime library development
[03:20] <Yamikuronue> I'll try no, then
[03:21] <Yamikuronue> selecting keyboard... XKB set shuold be left alone, right?
[03:21] <Panarchy> viator: gcc
[03:21] <Mal3ko> how do we kill hang session?
[03:21] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: correct
[03:21] <Mal3ko> how do we kill hang ssh session?
[03:21] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:22] <viator> i have build essential
[03:22] <Panarchy> Can someone help me find the latest version of libgnutls13? As I need it for wireshark-common, the latest version, which isn't available in apt.
[03:22] <gnutron> Mal3ko: try ctrl+c or kill pid
[03:22] <keres_> what is the apt-get for pure gnome?
[03:22] <viator> let me check cache for gcc
[03:22] <tritium> viator: build-essential depends on gcc
[03:22] <gnutron> viator: ubuntu-desktop i'm pretty sure
[03:22] <Panarchy> CodeBlocks for an IDE if you like
[03:22] <keres_> i guess it works :S
[03:22] <keres_> wait
[03:22] <viator> lol
[03:22] <gnutron> keres_: ubuntu-desktop i'm pretty sure
[03:23] <gnutron> viator: sorry
[03:23] <Yamikuronue> ok, I configured the appropriate keyboard, told it no keyboard options, and it warns me it's overwriting the configuratino file and puts me back at the prompt. Did I miss something here? It all seemed to be asking about the keyboard type
[03:23] <micah> Should upstream upgrade requests be made in ubuntu or debian?
[03:23] <viator> ok i have them both
[03:23] <keres_> gnutron: thanks
[03:23] <bryanbuchanan> to get my wireless card working, can I use windows wireless drivers to install the drivers from my cd that came with the computer?
[03:24] <keres`zZz> ARG
[03:24] <slayerboyWRK> Panarchy: the latest version for libgnutls13 that i can see is 1.4.4.3
[03:24] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:24] <keres`zZz> if you close out a terminal that is doing something on accident, what happens?
[03:24] <keres`zZz> like an apt-get
[03:24] <micah> bryanbuchanan: check out ndisgtk
[03:24] <woden_> What is the digital photo program for Ubuntu?
[03:24] <bryanbuchanan> gracias, will do
[03:25] <Yamikuronue> it put me back at a prompt but the screen's blinking a bit oddly.
[03:25] <woden_> "You have just inserted a medium with digital photos.  Choose what application to launch."
[03:25] <woden_> "No applications found"
[03:25] <ThePlastikJesus> Is there a way to cleanup un wanted files in Ubuntu like you would in windows like a "Disk Clean-Up"
[03:26] <keres_> if you close out a terminal that is doing something on accident, what happens?
[03:26] <schnauzer> keres_, the program stops.
[03:26] <gnutron> keres_: it will probably stop it
[03:27] <woden_> keres_:  Type CTRL + z, then bg, then you can close the Terminal and the program won't stop
[03:27] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: you do have ubuntu-desktop installed right, did it ever work?
[03:28] <woden_> What is the digital photo program for Ubuntu?
[03:28] <Yamikuronue> It used to work before I reformatted. All signs seem to indicate it's installed, I forget now what the command was but it told me it was already installed...
[03:28] <schnauzer> keres_, If you want to run a terminal program in the background, open up a virtual terminal [Ctrl]+[Alt]+F1
[03:28] <asdfg>  hi
[03:28] <Chrisie> woden_:  try GIMP
[03:28] <asdfg>  i like hi better
[03:29] <woden_> Chrisie:  No, a digital photo program.  When I plug in my digital camera I get a box that says "You have just inserted a medium with digital photos.  Choose what application to launch." and "No applications found".  I already have gimp installed.
[03:30] <mikeypizano> can i reverse sync an ipod on ubuntu?
[03:30] <Xcerca> i just compiled a program from code blocks and it runs fine there,  but how can i run the executable from the foler without moving it to the bin folder ?
[03:30] <McCallister> use songbird.
[03:30] <schnauzer> mikeypizano, I prefer gtkpod
[03:30] <Xcerca> bash program or ./ program or somthing like that ?
[03:30] <mikeypizano> mccallister, i do have the songs, i need the rating and play count info
[03:30] <ntndo> neither gtkpod, nor songbird seem to transfer album art over when I put music on my iPod.  Any halp?
[03:31] <McCallister> mikeypizano, I haven't tried gtkpod.
[03:31] <mikeypizano> y do i havet o have this thing lol
[03:32] <mikeypizano> having ratings is important
[03:32] <woden_> What is the digital photo program for Ubuntu?
[03:32] <lifeistoenjoy> mk
[03:32] <Xcerca> woden_   for editing ?
[03:32] <slayerboyWRK> woden_: there are many, GIMP can be used, you can try Picasa, you can try F-spot
[03:32] <tritium> woden_: you need to be more specific
[03:32] <McCallister> woden_, great question. There is a photo viewer, but not an importer. Does Picasa have a linux client?
[03:32] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: so its a fresh install?
[03:32] <tritium> (There are several, that do various things)
[03:32] <slayerboyWRK> McCallister: yes
[03:33] <woden_> Xcerca:  No, when I plug in my camera it asks me which program I want to open but the list is empty it says "No applications found".
[03:33] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: yeah.
[03:33] <woden_> tritium:  Did you read my previous comment above?
[03:33] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: I'd consider re-installing
[03:33] <Xcerca> woden_ you can just open the file location in the file browser nautilus,   i would check the forum
[03:33] <tritium> woden_: no, I'm giving you some general guidance
[03:34] <ThePlastikJesus> is there a way to do a disk cleanup in ubuntu like you would do in windows?
[03:34] <tritium> !pm | lifeistoenjoy
[03:34] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: alright, will do.
[03:34] <Chrisie> woden_: ahh, well I'm still on uBuntu Hardy. But at least here it's the "Removable Drives and Media Preferences" dialogue you want from the System->Preferences menu. My Digital camera import is set to: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[03:34] <slayerboyWRK> woden_: check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=233037
[03:35] <McCallister> In xchat, is there an easy way to reply to a user without have to type their full name?
[03:35] <acydlord> start typing their name and hit tab
[03:35] <rob227> spare any help for an man with speaker problems? One doesn't work. I have prepared pastebins of amixer -c0 and -c1
[03:35] <McCallister> acydlord, thanks!
[03:35] <kreg__> hi, is this a good idea to use ext4 filesystem in nowdays ubuntu 8.04 ?  I want speed, data realibility etc
[03:36] <acydlord> welcome
[03:36] <woden_> Chrisie:  I don't have "Removable Drives and Media Preferences"
[03:36] <rob227> acydlord: can you spare a little help?
[03:36] <izinucs> kreg__, ext4 is not available for Ubuntu yet..
[03:36] <woden_> Does F-Spot come by default in Ubuntu 8.10?
[03:36] <slayerboyWRK> woden_: because you are using a different version of Ubuntu, you have the latest
[03:36] <izinucs> woden_, yes
[03:37] <acydlord> i'm pretty rusty with my also knowledge
[03:37] <rob227> spare any help (or change if you like southpark?)
[03:37] <izinucs> I also don't know much
[03:37] <woden_> Sounds like I should install F-Spot then, since it is supposed to come with Ubuntu 8.10 by default?
[03:37] <asdfg>  southpark is alright
[03:37] <rob227> oh well thought id ask
[03:37] <asdfg>  getting a bit tired though
[03:37] <slayerboyWRK> woden_: it should be installed already
[03:37] <rob227> soundcard problems are killing me
[03:38] <asdfg>  what's the issue?
[03:38] <slayerboyWRK> woden_: check your applications menu
[03:38] <woden_> alright
[03:38] <rob227> left speaker won't work
[03:38] <slayerboyWRK> rob227: laptop or desktop?
[03:38] <rob227> desktop
[03:38] <McCallister> rob227, at least you get sound from your left speaker. I get no sound.
[03:38] <dnyy> Can I install XP after Ubuntu to daulboot, or does Windows need to be first?
[03:39] <izinucs> dnyy, to eliminate headaches.. install win first
[03:39] <tyebud> Is it possible to rename a joystick in the system
[03:39] <slayerboyWRK> dnyy: windows should be first
[03:39] <rob227> what version of ubuntu you running?
[03:39] <tyebud> 8.04
[03:39] <Yamikuronue> dnyy: I tried that earlier. Hence my having to reformat. Windows XP doesn't like non-NTFS disks I think was my problem.
[03:39] <outlaw1> does anyone have experience with ''kino''  for merging mpg files together. i have used ''mpgtx'' and mencoder and ''cat'' with no success ?
[03:39] <deefzi> if someone is familiar with RAID-1 with installing ubuntu, a helping hand would be appreciated here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6339667
[03:39] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: FAT32 should be fine for WinXP
[03:40] <Yamikuronue> slayerboy: I also might have a bad disk. It kept bluescreening with an error about losing control of the boot partition
[03:40] <rob227> i've decided that my sound card has AIDS in Ubuntu
[03:40] <tritium> rob227: please, have some tact
[03:40] <Yamikuronue> it did that over vista too, though, originally
[03:40] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: yeah from the sounds, there's something funky going on with your HDD
[03:40] <rob227> sorry just joking
[03:40] <bruenig> rob227: AIDS or super AIDS?
[03:40] <georgy_28> outlaw1, : kino can't do that, work only with DV or avi files. Use Kdenlive
[03:41] <rob227> trying to lighten the problem
[03:41] <rob227> super
[03:41] <bazhang> !offtopic
[03:41] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: I meant my install disk >.> the laptop's brand new, I've just been trying to liberate it from vista
[03:41] <rob227> haha
[03:41] <izinucs> outlaw1, also try LiVeS!  you'll find it at www.getdeb.net
[03:41] <Yamikuronue> ah, sorry
[03:41] <gnutron> rob227: right click your volume icon choose preferences, does it list your card?
[03:41] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: try Ultimate Boot Disk and run some tests, then write zeros to the drive 2-3 times, it takes a long time but it cured a problem I had with an old hard drive
[03:42] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: ah gotcha
[03:42] <rob227> its the ICEnsembler silly. Which is set for -c1
[03:42] <tyebud> How would I copy the results of cat /proc/bus/input/devices into a nano instance via the command line?
[03:42] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: are you trying to install 64bit or 32bit Ubuntu?
[03:42] <rob227> -c0 is set to HDA Intel
[03:42] <kristian_> where can i change the resolution in ubuntu?
[03:42] <outlaw1> izinucs: thank you i'll give it a try now . thanks !
[03:42] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: while I'm reformatting, is there any reason why I should change the partition setup instead of just telling it to reformat the partition I installed to?
[03:42] <gnutron> rob227: right click your volume icon choose preferences, select audigy
[03:43] <izinucs> tyebud, you want it in a txt file?  just add ... > <filename> .... at the end of the line
[03:43] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: whichever is the normal one ;P my brain's a bit hosed right now
[03:43] <rob227> i would think it should also be set to ICEnsemble but i don't know how to do it. I think i am getting devices confused with channels. I'm a noob
[03:43] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: you have windows on it?
[03:43] <Yamikuronue> gnutron: nope, not right now. I failed miserably with windows so just wiped it all and put ubuntu on it
[03:44] <gnutron> Yamikuronue: just tell it to use the entire disk
[03:44] <tyebud> izinucs: and then I can copy and paste from one document to another?
[03:44] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: and all your having problems with in Ubuntu is getting video to come up?
[03:44] <rob227> gnutron: Audigy is not an option
[03:44] <rob227> ICEnsembler controls my sound in the right speaker for sure
[03:44] <izinucs> tyebud, yep
[03:44] <gnutron> rob227: does dmesg detect it
[03:44] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: yeah.
[03:44] <tyebud> izinucs: God I hope this works
[03:45] <tyebud> izinucs: Thank you for your help
[03:45] <izinucs> tyebud, did it work?
[03:45] <rkvirani_> I love my netbook
[03:45] <amikrop> Is the helvetica font included in Ubuntu, without the installation of msttcorefonts?
[03:45] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: what kind of laptop is it?  wondering if there's an issue with the integrated video card?
[03:45] <tyebud> izinucs: one sec
[03:45] <rkvirani_> so rad with ubuntu netbook remix
[03:45] <izinucs> amikrop, probably something similar but not by that name
[03:45] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: thinkpad T500. Thinkwiki tells me it ought to work but I have no idea what I'm doing with a command prompt so... got any ideas before I reformat it?
[03:46] <gnutron> tyebud: cat  /proc/bus/input/devices  > some-filename  should work
[03:46] <thyarrizka> assalamualaikum
[03:46] <rob227> gnutron: not sure what dmesg is. Can you elaborate
[03:46] <amikrop> izinucs: ok, thx
[03:46] <izinucs> gnutron, kinda like I said :)
[03:46] <rkvirani_> gnutron: CLICK ON THE TERMINAL ICON
[03:46] <gnutron> rob227: in a terminal type dmesg |less  see if it detects the card
[03:46] <rkvirani_> then type dmesg
[03:46] <rkvirani_> (sorry ops for caps
[03:46] <dnyy> Err, internet disconnected.  Did anyone answer my question? :x
[03:46] <rob227> ok
[03:47] <Yamikuronue> dnyy: To save yourself a headache, windows should come first
[03:47] <tritium> To save yourself a headache, windows should not come at all
[03:47] <eseven73> lol
[03:47] <dnyy> haha
[03:47] <Yamikuronue> lol
[03:47] <tyebud> izinucs: No it didn't work.   grrr
[03:47] <dnyy> If it wasn't for Photoshop CS3 it wouldn't. :'(
[03:48] <tyebud> izinucs: i'm going to try something else
[03:48] <izinucs> tyebud, what's the cat line your using again?
[03:48] <Yamikuronue> tritium: to be fair, I've never had tie winXP desktop fail to come up and dump me at a command prompt like this on a fresh install ;P
[03:48] <L3Tum> I installed vista after ubuntu with no problems
[03:48] <rkvirani_> silly vista
[03:48] <Baba_B00ie> why don't you replace photoshop cs3 with gimp and other related tools
[03:48] <dnyy> L3Tum I read something about windows deleting GRUB or something :/
[03:48] <yeryry> vista uses grub itself..
[03:48] <Baba_B00ie> i don't see how cs3 is so amazing
[03:49] <tritium> Yamikuronue: nor have I.  But, then again, I don't use windows...
[03:49] <tyebud> izinucs: cat /proc/bus/input/devices    the text file output worked, but I couldn't copy and paste between nano instances
[03:49] <gnutron> windows overwrites the mbr which totally whacks grub
[03:49] <dnyy> Baba_B00ie: Deadlines and not having the time (currently) to learn to use Gimp to it's potential. :/
[03:49] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to change the look and feel so it looks like redmond
[03:49] <L3Tum> It didn't delete mine, I just used gParted to create a second partition after ubuntu, then installed vista on that
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> tritium: this laptop is my first adventure with linux, I got sick to death of vista and winXP refused to install over it.
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> and ubuntu is ncie and pretty and I want to play with it... if only it'd work
[03:49] <Yamikuronue> anyway, reformat ho I suppose
[03:49] <mezquitale> !look and feel
[03:49] <Baba_B00ie> gimp is frickin' amazing. but i'm no pro at it.. it does way to much than i need.. lol
[03:50] <izinucs> tyebud, can you open it in gedit?
[03:50] <dnyy> L3Tum: maybe vista got better, who knows.  i'm gonna have to go with xp, though.
[03:50] <a-l-p-h-a> Instead of VNC, is there a way to remote desktop to a single machine? where by, it's headless, like microsoft terminal server, but for ubuntu/xorg? And allow multiple users to connect to the same machine?
[03:50] <tyebud> izinucs: I don't have a windows environment.  It's command line only
[03:50] <izinucs> tyebud, hang on let me try here.
[03:51] <gnutron> I gotta go
[03:51] <surfjdh> someone I need help
[03:51] <MindVirus> Hi. My gnome-terminal's a bit screwered. When I type a line too long the line disappears seems to move back like 70 characters.
[03:51] <tyebud> izinucs: The problem I'm having is that the name I want to copy has special symbols in it.
[03:51] <surfjdh> I have a /etc/fstab problem
[03:51] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: when you installed ubuntu, beforehand, did you change your graphics in the BIOS?
[03:51] <L3Tum> dnyy: Yeah, I don't know about xp. If it weren't for games, I wouldn't have windows at all
[03:51] <MindVirus> The cursor shifts 70 characters left and the line itself goes up a line and back 70 characters, because when I press home, the cursor ends up on the line above.
[03:51] <rob227> gnutron: Not sure if it was detected or not using that method here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/83306/
[03:51] <tyebud> izinucs: Otherwise I would just type it in myself
[03:51] <surfjdh> anyone wanna help
[03:51] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: I didn't touch the bios
[03:51] <surfjdh> ?
[03:52] <surfjdh> I need someone to tell me how to get my sd card to not be read-only
[03:52] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: check the "Before Installation" part http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Ubuntu_8.10_(Intrepid_Ibex)_on_a_Thinkpad_T500
[03:52] <izinucs> tyebud, I just did it.. highlight what you want to copy and then go the next instance of nano and middle click .. if you don't have a middle click then the right and left mouse buttons at the same time.
[03:52] <tyebud> izinucs: I don't have a gnome, or kde though.  I don't even have a mouse :)
[03:52] <surfjdh> so anyone wanna help?
[03:52] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: man /etc/fstab
[03:52] <surfjdh> ...
[03:53] <surfjdh> ok thats not really helpful
[03:53] <rkvirani_> you have to add 'ro' to your /etc/fstab under the options for the sdcard
[03:53] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: uhh learn how to read
[03:53] <surfjdh> that makes it READONLY
[03:53] <izinucs> tyebud, that was my next thing.. if you don't have a mouse then someone will have to you what the shortcut keys are for middle click .. if there is one.
[03:53] <surfjdh> durr
[03:53] <surfjdh> i need it to remain rw
[03:53] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: surfjdh didnt you just say you want it read-only
[03:53] <surfjdh> or rwx
[03:53] <rkvirani_> 'remain\
[03:53] <tritium> !enter | surfjdh
[03:53] <rkvirani_> what do you mean remain
[03:53] <surfjdh> 10:52:08 PM) surfjdh: I need someone to tell me how to get my sd card to not be read-only
[03:54] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: hahaaa lmao
[03:54] <surfjdh> to not be read-only
[03:54] <izinucs> tyebud, you must like the command line only.. or maybe you're just a massochist
[03:54] <rkvirani_> check the write protect tab on the card
[03:54] <surfjdh> nope
[03:54] <surfjdh> doesn't even have one
[03:54] <Yamikuronue> slayerboy: great, now you tell me. I bet that's why I have to use the alternate install disk too. When it reboots post-reformat I'll edit the settings
[03:54] <rkvirani_> hrm... what file system is it?
[03:54] <surfjdh> I ripped that bitch off i was soo mad
[03:54] <tritium> surfjdh: please see above about !enter
[03:54] <surfjdh> vfat
[03:54] <surfjdh> fat16
[03:54] <tritium> surfjdh: and watch the language, please
[03:54] <tyebud> izinucs: LoL.  It's an htpc.  Barebones boxee install.
[03:54] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: well if you ripped it off then...
[03:54] <surfjdh> its for my cell phone
[03:54] <surfjdh> it was ro before i ripped it off
[03:54] <slayerboyWRK> Yamikuronue: yeah I just found that page :P
[03:55] <izinucs> tyebud, what are you doing with it?
[03:55] <tyebud> izinucs: Eventually I won't even have a keyboard :)
[03:55] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: then its the filesystem
[03:55] <surfjdh> my card reader doesnt ever have the lock mechanism
[03:55] <rkvirani_> did you try formatting it?
[03:55] <surfjdh> gparted cant see it
[03:55] <Yamikuronue> slayerboyWRK: heh, I feel stupid because I've been staring at it for a while. I skimmed until I read "should work out of the box" and went all "grr" lol
[03:55] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: the card has it
[03:55] <surfjdh> but it mounts anyways
[03:55] <rkvirani_> not the card reader
[03:55] <surfjdh> wtf is that
[03:55] <izinucs> tyebud, got a usb port on it? got a spare mouse?
[03:55] <rkvirani_> gparted cant see it
[03:55] <rkvirani_> I think its corrupt
[03:55] <surfjdh> nope
[03:55] <izinucs> !language | surfjdh
[03:55] <surfjdh> did fsck
[03:55] <surfjdh> its fine
[03:56] <tyebud> izinucs: I do.  But no windows environment
[03:56] <rkvirani_> and it you dont know what a filesystem is then you need to read about computers in general
[03:56] <tyebud> izinucs: Mouse wouldn't do any good :)
[03:56] <rkvirani_> fsck eh
[03:56] <izinucs> tyebud, doesn't matter.. I don't think you need the gui for the mouse to do it's thing.. worth a try?
[03:56] <rkvirani_> hrm... did it report anything
[03:56] <surfjdh> one messed up block
[03:56] <rkvirani_> try running bad-blocks agains the file
[03:56] <surfjdh> it fixed it
[03:56] <Baba_B00ie> whats a CLI web browser besides lynx ? that's worth a looksy ?
[03:57] <surfjdh> the problem lies in a cryptic output from dmesg
[03:57] <eseven73> links2, w3m
[03:57] <izinucs> tyebud, that is just for the middle clicks.. obviously it won't move a cursor or anything :-)
[03:57] <qcjn> i'm back
[03:57] <rkvirani_> err I think you can set a flag in fdisk
[03:57] <rkvirani_> possibly
[03:57] <tritium> surfjdh: you've been told about !enter.  Please try it ;)
[03:57] <surfjdh> it looks something like this
[03:57] <rkvirani_> what does the filesystem report as in fdisk
[03:57] <surfjdh>  8562.754652] attempt to access beyond end of device
[03:57] <surfjdh> [ 8562.754654] sdf: rw=0, want=3932160, limit=1966081
[03:57] <surfjdh> wtf is !enter
[03:57] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: heh
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter surfjdh rkvirani_
[03:58] <izinucs> !enter | surfjdh
[03:58] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: the enter key
[03:58] <tyebud> izinucs: Give me a second.  The computer is on the other side of the house
[03:58] <rkvirani_> type your response in full THEN press enter
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Please dont swear even in shorthand.
[03:58] <surfjdh> ok
[03:58] <qcjn> schnauzer: wonder if i change back to 24 in my xorg.conf
[03:58] <rkvirani_> and it looks like your file system is screwed up based on the line you sent me
[03:58] <L3Tum> surfjdh: Don't keep pressing enter, with only a few words on each line. Type what you have to say, then hit enter. When you keep pressing enter after each word its called flooding and it gets annoying
[03:58] <rkvirani_> looks like the geometry is messed up
[03:58] <qcjn> schnauzer: and see what it does ?
[03:58] <tritium> surfjdh: you really need to pay attention to what you've been told/asked
[03:58] <surfjdh> I know, it probably is, but I cant reformat it because gparted cant SEE IT
[03:59] <rkvirani_> back the card up and re-parition and then reformat it
[03:59] <mastastealth> hey guys, I just threw in a 6800 into a PC running 8.10. I thought since the last card was a Geforce 2 all I needed to do was uninstall and reinstall the nv drivers from 96 to 177. after some fiddling it seems this whole thing has gone out of whack. wireless stopped working, and mouse wont move. am using nv drivers to get X start, can someone help?
[03:59] <surfjdh> you hear meGPARTED CANT SEE IT
[03:59] <rkvirani_> surfjdh: why are you GPARTED
[03:59] <rebel_kid> is there a decent countdown timer to display the D:H:M:S until a specified date?
[03:59] <surfjdh> mkfs.vfat doesn't work
[03:59] <rkvirani_> ass-tart I can hear you
[03:59] <rkvirani_> fdisk
[03:59] <rkvirani_> use fdisk
[03:59] <rkvirani_> remove the partition
[03:59] <rkvirani_> then re-add it
[03:59] <tritium> !enter | rkvirani_
[03:59] <FloodBot1> rkvirani_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <rkvirani_> this\
[04:00] <rkvirani_> is
[04:00] <rkvirani_>  a
[04:00] <rkvirani_> test
[04:00] <FloodBot1> rkvirani_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <surfjdh> Unable to open /dev/sdf1
[04:00] <rkvirani_> just checking my enter key works
[04:00] <rkvirani_> lol
[04:00] <tyebud> izinucs: oooh... I have an idea.  I can delete everything from the output except the name I need, open the Keymap.xml, the insert the file where I need it
[04:00] <tritium> rkvirani_: tread lightly
[04:00] <schnauzer> qcjn: might work
[04:01] <FLAME> hello everyone
[04:01] <qcjn> schnauzer: i ll try to see
[04:01] <surfjdh> ok so the strange thing is my phone can read and write to it just fine
[04:01] <surfjdh> so it must be dbus fstab or mtab
[04:01] <GhostlyDeath> What's the code name of 8.10?
[04:01] <surfjdh> I just have no freaking idea
[04:01] <schnauzer> GhostlyDeath: Intrepid Ibex
[04:01] <izinucs> tyebud, sounds good but now you have my curiosity up.. what are you doing?
[04:01] <macjason0607> guys i have a question .. i have video i took that is in a format that is crappy .. what can i use to convert it and make it look decent ?
[04:02] <tritium> g2g591||Away: please disable that
[04:02] <GhostlyDeath> What about the last release?
[04:02] <g2g591||Away> lolwut
[04:02] <L3Tum> macjason0607, if the quality is crappy, no conversion will make it better
[04:02] <g2g591||Away> I was just changing my nick
[04:02] <surfjdh> so what to do, anyone wanna help
[04:02] <tyebud> izinucs: the name has special characters that I don't know how to type in the cli.  So I need to copy and paste the string to preserve the name correctly
[04:02] <izinucs> I'm looking for a pdf page extractor/combiner that is graphical.. pdfedit doesn't seem to function.. any suggestions?
[04:03] <tritium> !nickspam | g2g591||Away
[04:03] <surfjdh> izinucs:lrn2add/remove
[04:03] <izinucs> tyebud, I got that before.. but what is it suppose to do?
[04:03] <g2g591||Away> just changed it once is all, sorry
[04:03] <izinucs> surfjdh, Is that a suggestion or just an offhand misguided comment?
[04:04] <surfjdh> a little of both
[04:04] <tritium> g2g591||Away: imagine if everyone did that when they set themselves /away
[04:04] <surfjdh> getdeb; etc
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> g2g591||Away the away part is what caught our attention, it looks like a a repeating away message
[04:04] <g2g591||Away> I am not away
[04:04] <g2g591||Away> I understand the confusion
[04:04] <tritium> g2g591||Away: cool, thanks
[04:04] <surfjdh> so, sd card is stuck on read-only need help with fstab
[04:04] <surfjdh> SOMEONE?
[04:04] <schnauzer> GhostlyDeath: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[04:04] <izinucs> surfjdh, how 'bout apt-cache search <something> or synaptic.. you missed those two.. oh.. also aptitude.. .. DOH!
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: this is my card...GeForce4 MX 4000 ! i've changed it, now i have to restart xwindow again ?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Sounds like it was locked down, you will need to force mount it to write
[04:05] <mastastealth> I removed xorg.conf, reboot and gdm starts fine (not sure with which drivers) but the keyboard nor mouse work now. it also didnt generate a new xorg.conf, is that normal?
[04:05] <tyebud> izinucs: It's going to be my remote control
[04:05] <surfjdh> (need help?, dont be a jerk)
[04:05] <schnauzer> qcjn: Every time you change something in xorg.conf, you have to restart the X server.
[04:05] <surfjdh> force mount doesn't work
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: ok
[04:05] <surfjdh> I already said that
[04:05] <qcjn> schnauzer: be back
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh I just got back...
[04:05] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: what does the line in fstab for your SD card look like?
[04:06] <izinucs> tyebud, ah.. sounds like a lot of fun.. like a mythTV box or something?
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh what format on the card
[04:06] <surfjdh> hold on
[04:06] <surfjdh> /dev/sdf1       /media/disk-1 vfatrw,nodev,sync,noatime,umask=000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[04:06] <tyebud> izinucs: Exactly.  Have you heard of boxee?
[04:06] <surfjdh> I sorta made it myself
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh yea.. looks like it
[04:06] <izinucs> tyebud, just starting to ring a bell.. what tuner card are you using?
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh what is vfatrw ?
[04:07] <surfjdh> well its not exactly like that, it has been changed like 20 times in the past hour
[04:07] <g2g591> surfjdh: put a space between vfat and rw
[04:07] <surfjdh> parrow: surfjdh what is vfatrw ?
[04:07] <Logikos> hi, i installed wine, from ubuntu 8.04 but now realize i need a newer version at least 1.1.7 ... how do i upgrade to the new version?
[04:07] <surfjdh> i know i know
[04:07] <tyebud> izinucs: nada.  just a streaming box.  It has all the network streaming support built in, like hulu, comedy central, cnn, etc
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Logikos /j #winehq
[04:07] <tyebud> izinucs: So like comcast on demand, but free
[04:07] <Logikos> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[04:07] <surfjdh> not it wont even let me mount it, I am getting really pissed
[04:07] <jtaji> Logikos: http://winehq.org/download/deb
[04:08] <surfjdh> now*
[04:08] <Logikos> jtaji: thanks
[04:08] <Killer--Tux> help with adjusting reslution on my pc
[04:08] <slayerboyWRK> Logikos: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[04:08] <izinucs> tyebud, nice.. where do you find the streaming channel addresses? or is there another program that does that automagiclly?
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh I would rem out that line....  in fstab..   restartx.. and force mount from cli
[04:08] <tritium> surfjdh: family-friendly, please.  Remember?
[04:08] <tyebud> izinucs: And I've got all the various roommates music libraries shared to the box, so it has a massive library of music
[04:08] <surfjdh> attempted
[04:08] <surfjdh> failed
[04:08] <tyebud> izinucs: It's built into boxee.   check it out.   www.boxee.tv
[04:09] <izinucs> tyebud, thanks..!
[04:09] <surfjdh> piss*d isn't family friendly?, guess I grew up in a rough family
[04:09] <tritium> surfjdh: there is no need for you to use it.
[04:09] <tyebud> izinucs: I basically messed myself the first time I saw it.
[04:09] <surfjdh> well im angry then, very angry I have been working on this one problem for the better half of 2 hours
[04:09] <izinucs> tyebud, this is nice.. did you have to compile it or is there a deb?
[04:09] <Chrysalis> whats easyest way to pastebin from command line
[04:10] <bazhang> Chrysalis, use pastebinit
[04:10] <tyebud> izinucs: There's an aptitude repo
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Sorry to hear that, but dont bite the hand that is trying to help
[04:10] <tyebud> izinucs: Watch the video.  it's awesome
[04:10] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: what command are you using to force mount the SD card?
[04:10] <surfjdh> sorry
[04:10] <surfjdh>  sudo mount /dev/sdf1 -o rw,force
[04:10] <surfjdh> [sudo] password for jd:
[04:10] <surfjdh> mount: block device /dev/sdf1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:11] <FloodBot1> surfjdh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:11] <izinucs> tyebud, thanks.. this one I'll have to put in my "recommended programs" list.. :)
[04:11] <surfjdh> AARRGGHH
[04:11] <tyebud> izinucs: definitely!  They have windows and mac versions too
[04:11] <izinucs> tyebud, too cool
[04:11] <qcjn> schnauzer: back, it worked..the screensaver looks better, but about the video, or diaporama i ll have to check
[04:11] <uman> Hey guys, im in ubuntu 8.10 and i am using a usb sd card reader with 2 different cards, the 1 gb card works just fine( it automounts and i can browse the files), but the 4 gb card wont work... Anyone have an idea of what could be the problem and how can i see al usb connected devices. Thanks
[04:11] <tyebud> izinucs: it's in private alpha right now, but I can get you an invite I think
[04:12] <brycan> hey
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh Stop with the enter key..
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> surfjdh sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[04:12] <surfjdh> it was a copypasta
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > surfjdh
[04:12] <izinucs> tyebud, sure.. kinda like grandcentral
[04:13] <slayerboyWRK> surfjdh: type sudo mkdir /meida/sdcard then type sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/sdcard
[04:13] <brycan> hey anyone know why i can't connect wirelessly to my router
[04:14] <surfjdh> d@jd-desktop ~ $ sudo mkdir /media/sdcard
[04:14] <surfjdh> jd@jd-desktop ~ $ sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/sdcard
[04:14] <surfjdh> mount: block device /dev/sdf1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:14] <surfjdh> AARRGGHH
[04:14] <bazhang> surfjdh, dont paste here.
[04:14] <surfjdh> PASTE WHERE?
[04:14] <bazhang> surfjdh, use paste.ubuntu.com
[04:14] <schnauzer> qcjn: That's good news, but I'm afraid I'm out of ideas.
[04:14] <tyebud> izinucs: pm me your email, and I'll invite you
[04:14] <onetinsoldier> hi. i'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10. the cdrom bootas but i get I/O read read errors after what appears to be the end of loading up the installer. as if the kernel is having problems with my sata dvd drive. np with a debian lenny installer in this area. anyone think they can help?
[04:16] <izinucs> tyebud, done.. funny the site has a "join" button but it doesn't go anywhere but back to the main page.
[04:16] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, first, obvious questions: did you check the burn? there's an option on the cd boot menu
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > surfjdh
[04:17] <tyebud> izinucs: yeah, they aren't handing invites out right now
[04:17] <izinucs> tyebud, got it.. thanks..
[04:18] <YellowGTOL> Hello all
[04:18] <leofwine> hello
[04:18] <tyebud> izinucs: no prob.  thanks for the time
[04:18] <YellowGTOL> Linux is killin me today :-(
[04:18] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: yes. it goes through that and then the same thing. i''m presented with pages full of message about end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1431680. if there is an actual disaply about the integrity if the cdrom, i couldn't see it
[04:19] <McCallister> I have a problem with sound. In the Volume Control options my device is #0: Audigy 1 (Unknown).
[04:20] <qcjn> schnauzer: when i look at P.P.S whit Open Office it is super slow ? is it my material , or it does that to everybody ?
[04:20] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: just a while ago another fellow was in here with the same problem. so i know i'm not alone. just an fyi.
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> So I have tried everything to install this damn flash player on Ubuntu 8.10 64bit
[04:20] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, yeah, the burn has to be good enough to get the burn check to run ;) . I'd check the md5sum of the downloaded iso, then burn again, at lowest speed possible. And I've heard some have problems if they've burned the iso to a dvd. Sorta 'out there' info, no links or first hand exp.
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> And I can not get this workin for the life of me
[04:20] <izinucs> tyebud, it was fun..
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> YellowGTOL That is one of the reasons we try to guide newer users away from 64 bit
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> :-(
[04:20] <YellowGTOL> It was supposed to be a duel boot system
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> But the partitioner had an error
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > YellowGTOL
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> And killed everything on the PC lol
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, roger. i used 12x speed. i'll try a lower speed and the run md5sum of the iso if i can find it.
[04:21] <n8tuser2> YellowGTOL--> you can dual boot with 32bit ubuntu perhaps?
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> YellowGTOL sounds like you didnt defrag your windows partition before resizing
[04:21] <YellowGTOL> Its to late now. It already killed my older partitions
[04:21] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, md5sum /path/to/ubuntu-*.iso  ;)
[04:22] <CyBurnett> is it safe to remove/uninstall trackerd from Ubuntu 8.04
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: btw, i'm using a cdrom. thanks for your replies and help
[04:22] <nickrud_> CyBurnett, yes
[04:22] <YellowGTOL> So what your saying is I should put 32bit Ubuntu on here?
[04:22] <n8tuser2> yes
[04:22] <CyBurnett> So if i sudo apt-get remove trackerd is ok?
[04:23] <nickrud_> CyBurnett, yes. You'll also probably lose ubuntu-desktop, but that's only a meta package (list of packages to install upon first installation). You'll want it back when you upgrade to 9.*
[04:23] <eseven73> CyBurnett: that or you could just disable the trackerd service
[04:24] <sigp239> Any idea why it is that when I plug in my digital camera I get two boxes that pop up?
[04:24] <mcquaid> i'm following a guide for vncserver on startup and it says to run rc.update.d
[04:24] <mcquaid> which hardy doesn't have
[04:24] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ok, ran the md5sum. so now i need to find out if that value is correct.
[04:24] <mcquaid> what's the equiv?
[04:24] <sigp239> Any idea why, when I right-click on the camera volume on the desktop, I see 2 entries for gthumb?
[04:24] <nickrud_> sigp239, probably two partitions on that camera's storage
[04:24] <n8tuser2> mcquaid--> update-rc.d
[04:24] <sigp239> nickrud_:  How do I check that?
[04:25] <mcquaid> thx
[04:25] <nickrud_> sigp239, sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions on all media
[04:25]  * mcquaid smacks puts palm to forehead picard style
[04:25] <nickrud_> sigp239, attached media of course
[04:25] <CyBurnett> Well, I went into the add/remove program and selected tracer then it said that it would also remove some other stuff, I rebooted and all is ok, Thanks! :-)
[04:25] <sigp239> nickrud_:  here is the camera /dev/sdc1   *           1         985     2047746+   6  FAT16
[04:26] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, releases.ubuntu.com/8.10 has a file with the md5sums
[04:26] <tim__> hey i am having trouble with my sound. any one can help?
[04:26] <nickrud_> sigp239, then I'm not sure why you're getting two windows. Do they both show the same content?
[04:26] <sigp239> nickrud_: Yes it is attached
[04:26] <sigp239> nickrud_:  Yes they both show the same content.
[04:27] <steerpike> how do you stop the hard drive noises?
[04:27] <nickrud_> sigp239, what camera?
[04:27] <n8tuser2> steerpike--> replace the harddrive
[04:27] <nickrud_> steerpike, get a solid state drive. hard drives make noise
[04:27] <steerpike> this only happens in ubuntu
[04:27] <McCallister> Description of my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83316/
[04:27] <sigp239> nickrud_:  dmesg identifies this  OLYMPUS  u1030SW,S1030SW
[04:27] <steerpike> i hear a high-pitch noise
[04:27] <PERTAIY> HALO.
[04:27] <sigp239> nickrud_: an olympus stylus 1030sw
[04:27] <Anacranom> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes? and then, after the links i've already followed dont work...?
[04:28] <McCallister> steerpike, your dive is dying?
[04:28] <n8tuser2> steerpike--> high pitch tone is not a good sign
[04:28] <tim__> hey i am having trouble with my sound. any one can help?
[04:28] <steerpike> McCallister: no it isn't, it only happens in UBUNTU
[04:29] <etzerd> hello all
[04:29] <etzerd> ?
[04:29] <steerpike> it's happened on other PC
[04:29] <Flannel> Howdy etzerd, how can we help you?
[04:29] <uman> anyone know a good app to reencode .mov videos to avi divx or something that is smaller so uploading HD videos to youtube wont literally take hours? thanks
[04:29] <etzerd> can anyone tell how to install the drivers to play DVD using Ubuntu 8.10
[04:29] <nickrud_> sigp239, I'm finding nothing with googling   ubuntu 1030sw ; I'd file a bug on bugs.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <powertoo108> uman: mencoder? don't know much about it
[04:30] <Flannel> !dvd | etzerd
[04:30] <n8tuser2> uman google for it?
[04:30] <uman> powertoo108, ill look it up
[04:30] <etzerd> Flamel: I went to ubuntuguide.org they no longer have step to install DVD
[04:30] <rob227> how do i disable my onboard sound?
[04:30] <rob227> card 1 (c0)
[04:30] <powertoo108> rob227: in your bios
[04:30] <rob227> sound card? really?
[04:30] <Anacranom> etzerd, spell the nick
[04:30] <rob227> i suppose that makes perfect sense
[04:30] <powertoo108> rob227: yes
[04:31] <rob227> thanks restart i will
[04:31] <sigp239> nickrud_: Maybe it is because my camera has a built-in memory and I added a 2GB memory card?
[04:31] <steerpike> no one knows why UBUNTU causes my harddisk to make noises?!
[04:31] <etzerd> Anacranon: what you mean by spell the nick?
[04:32] <tim__> i am having trouble with oss and am getting no sound at all. I have tried some old tricks, but nothing has helped. can anyone help me?
[04:32] <nickrud_> sigp239 two partitions, could be. But that's still a bug, if nautilus opens two windows but both have the same content
[04:32] <roger_> it access disk faster than microcrap
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> steerpike if it is a new install it might be tracker, reading the drive
[04:32] <sigp239> nickrud_:  When I remove the 2GB card, it still just shows /dev/sdc1
[04:33] <steerpike> i've had it running for a week now
[04:33] <steerpike> on my laptop
[04:33] <akahige1> when I upgraded to Intrepid, there was a Gnome message about a new combination icon for logout / restart / IM status. apparently I clicked the wrong thing because I don't have that.  is there a way to get it back?
[04:33] <nickrud_> sigp239, does it still open two windows?
[04:33] <McCallister> My sound problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83316/
[04:33] <sigp239> nickrud_: No
[04:34] <steerpike> you're all useless
[04:35] <sigp239> nickrud_:  I think it may be creating 2 /media/ mount points?
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: the md5sum of the .iso checks out, it's exactly what it should be. i guess my only option is try a slower burn and then try again. thanks again for the help
[04:35] <tim__> McCallister: same problem
[04:35] <roger_> steerpike wtf is up
[04:35] <nickrud_> sigp239, then somehow, somewhere something is not right. I'm not the programmer for it, so I'm in no position to troubleshoot it. If you file a bug, explain what you see and offer to provide any requested information ...
[04:35] <nickrud_> sigp239, if it was creating 2 /media mount points, you'd see two on the desktop
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> roger_ Please dont swear even in shorthand
[04:35] <tim__> McCallister: what engine are you running? oss, ALSA or pulse?
[04:35] <roger_> oh shut up you
[04:36] <bazhang> roger_, please stop.
[04:36] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, that's THE most common cause of those types of errors I've seen
[04:36] <roger_> you quiet to
[04:36] <Flannel> roger_: We have simple channel rules and only ask that you respect them
[04:36] <robs227> restarted, no more onboard sound!
[04:36] <nickrud_> roger_, not to pile on, but think disney g rated
[04:36] <tim__> congats robs227
[04:36] <robs227> my soundcard is now c0
[04:37] <robs227> still doesn't solve the problem though *sigh*
[04:37] <nickrud_> roger_, not to pile on, but think disney g rated
[04:37] <roger_> oh boy
[04:37] <MiladKhajavi> how can I create a ubuntu repository with pool structure?
[04:37] <tim__> what is the problem robs227
[04:37] <tim__> ?
[04:37] <Yamikuronue> Success! I managed to get the GUI working thanks to slayerboy
[04:37] <Flannel> MiladKhajavi: You looking for a full on mirror? or what?
[04:37] <roger_> chill and find someone else to blabber at cuz i really don't cre
[04:37] <roger_> *care
[04:37] <McCallister> tim__, ALSA
[04:37] <robs227> no sound out of left speaker. I think the subwoofer is being mistaken for the left speaker.
[04:38] <Yamikuronue> I gotta jet, tho, so, thanks for the help, see you later
[04:38] <powertoo108> robs227: have you looked around in alsamixer?
[04:38] <gribouille> I can't get any sound from my sound card (Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB High Definition Audio Controller) any idea ?
[04:38] <robs227> god yes looked around like crazy
[04:38] <MiladKhajavi> Flannel: I want create a mirror
[04:38] <McCallister> powertoo108, I have. I've done a lot
[04:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !mirror
[04:38] <luddite> my ACER Aspire 4315 / ubuntu 8.10 screeen keeps randomly flashing to black and back to  normal. very annoying- any ideas?
[04:39] <nickrud_> !hdaintel > gribouille
[04:39] <robs227> been all over alsamixer
[04:39] <nickrud_> gribouille, I haven't actually gone over that page recently, ymmv
[04:39] <robs227> pulseaudio believes that my left speaker is working great
[04:39] <gribouille> nickrud_, ok, thanks
[04:40] <Anacranom> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes?
[04:40] <robs227> my sound card is an ENCORE but the system thinks its an ICEnsembler
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 do you know if you have a mixer?
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 oooo rough
[04:40] <robs227> alsamixer, yeah
[04:40] <tim__> robs227 i don't think i can help you sorry
[04:40] <Flannel> MiladKhajavi: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror can get you started
[04:41] <robs227> no one can Wahahhaah
[04:41] <nickrud_> gribouille, looking at it, it's much better than before ;)
[04:41] <tim__> robs227 have you tried fiddling with the controls?
[04:41] <sigp239> How do I set eog to be the default image viewer instead of gimp?
[04:41] <robs227> alsamixer controls? That's all I do all day!
[04:41] <tim__> robs227 ha i feel ya....
[04:41] <nickrud_> sigp239, right click an image of the type you want to change, select properties and Open with in the dialog box
[04:42] <powertoo108> robs227: I found a post with no sound on left speaker, they said if they adjust the PCM level it works until reboot, could be a temp fix
[04:42] <nickrud_> sigp239, image viewer is eog
[04:42] <gribouille> nickrud_, I get some sound, but it is extremely low
[04:42] <tim__> robs227 yeah, sorry i probably wont be able to help. try the #alsa channel
[04:42] <powertoo108> robs227: they also said it was fixed in 8.10 amd64 with the 2.6.27-7-generic kernel
[04:42] <robs227> like i said pulseaudio volume meter registers the left speaker works fine! Because it thinks the sub IS the left speakers. Thanks TIm!
[04:42] <sigp239> nickrud_: Do I have to do that manually for every type of picture file (jpg, png, etc) ?
[04:42] <Jack_Sparrow> robs227 HAve you asked in /j #alsa
[04:43] <robs227> no i haven't Mr. Sparrows thanks!
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> robs227 read the topic and run that script
[04:43] <Soros> i just plugged in a usb external drive (ntfs formatted).. but it was umounted incorrectly in windows, how do I find out which /dev/ device it is so I can -force it ?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Soros sudo fdisk -l
[04:44] <nickrud_> sigp239, yep, as of my last search for info on that
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Soros Last letter is L
[04:44] <MiladKhajavi> just listen to me. I have a problem to download package with linux OS, I can just download them from windows. then I want to create a repository with pool structure. and then I want to devide theme to DVD
[04:44] <gribouille> nickrud_, the link you gave me isn't very clear
[04:44] <nickrud_> gribouille, I'm not very good with sound, alsa is a black hole for me ;(
[04:44] <sigp239> nickrud_:  Should be a way to set to open "Pictures" with a default application of your choice
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[04:44] <gribouille> nickrud_, me too
[04:45] <cjh_> 한국인은 없나?
[04:45] <bazhang> !ko | cjh_
[04:45] <nickrud_> ah, I was guessing that.
[04:45] <cjh_> thanks you bazhang and ubottu
[04:45] <bazhang> cjh_, you are welcome
[04:46] <bazhang> oops
[04:46] <nickrud_> need that translated to korean
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: ya
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: burning at 1x speed. :)
[04:47] <Marfi> quick question. how well does 8.10 partitioner work with resizing a vista drive?
[04:47] <tonybaloney867> very random question: I'm on the x86 version of 8.10. What are all the lib64 packages for?
[04:47] <nickrud_> onetinsoldier, hahaha, well I'll be long gone by the time it's done ;)
[04:47] <tonybaloney867> Just curious :)
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> nickrud: yeah, gonna take several more minutes yet at this speed!
[04:47] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, compatability maybe?
[04:48] <akahige1> can anybody tell me how to get gnome's fast user switching applet back? (I don't seem to have it any more)
[04:48] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, what processor are you using?
[04:48] <exmachina> so my friend just did an update
[04:48] <exmachina> now when he reboots
[04:49] <exmachina> he gets a blank screen
[04:49] <exmachina> he used to get an Acer bootup logo
[04:49] <nickrud_> akahige1, right click menu bar, select add to panel, and add the user switcher
[04:49] <exmachina> now he can't even go into the BIOS
[04:49] <SarahAu> the acer bootup thing is part of the monitor isnt it?
[04:49] <tonybaloney867> Mardeni: x86, not amd64
[04:49] <tonybaloney867> which is why I was asking
[04:49] <nickrud_> exmachina, don't see how an update can alter bios
[04:50] <SarahAu> maybe he should test the monitor on another computer, it might have broken or something
[04:50] <exmachina> SarahAu what?
[04:50] <exmachina> he's on a laptop
[04:50] <akahige1> nickrud_: thanks!
[04:50] <SarahAu> exmachina, oh ok sorry nevermind
[04:50] <tim__> nickrud_: try oss
[04:50] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, try to do a sudo apt-get autoremove from the terminal
[04:50] <nickrud_> tim__ ?
[04:51] <tonybaloney867> well they're not installed on my system. I was just wondering what they were used for. Mostly being curious :)
[04:52] <exmachina> anyone?
[04:52] <Marfi> tonybaloney867, ah, ok. if your looking in synaptic, you can highlight it and see a description of it
[04:52] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> if your friend cannot get into the bios, is he pressing the correct key combo?
[04:52] <tonybaloney867> okay thanks :)
[04:52] <exmachina> he usually has a logo that displays like Acer blahj blah becuase he's using an acer laptop
[04:53] <exmachina> it's a bootup screen that says like Press F12 to go into BIOS
[04:53] <n8tuser2> !who | exmachina
[04:53] <bryanbuchanan> I'm trying to get my wireless card to work--I believe it's a realtek rtl8158. I got the linux drivers, uncompressed, and ran the commands in the readme, but run into errors, anyone know if I'm doing anything wrong or if this is a common problem?
[04:53] <exmachina> n8tuser, that was directed to you
[04:54] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> did he press F12 or perhap del at boot time?
[04:54] <exmachina> yes
[04:54] <exmachina> he doesn't even hear the typical bootup sound
[04:55] <Anacranom> !seen Anacranom
[04:55] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> you dont seem to like the protocol, prefix the nick or else am not responding to you anymore
[04:55] <lysf1994> ?
[04:55]  * n00b_PT is away (bounce)
[04:55] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[04:55] <lysf1994> ㄹ
[04:56] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: pastebin the errors and maybe somebody will know what to do from there
[04:56] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: !pastebin > bryanbuchanan
[04:56] <powertoo108> !pastebin > bryanbuchanan
[04:57] <exmachina> n8tuser2, he definitely said that it was an ubuntu update
[04:57] <noobnoob> anybody know how to keep this ubuntu irc channel up and log onto another irc server in xchat?
[04:57] <Marfi> exmachina, and it won't turn on at all?
[04:57] <n8tuser2> exmachina--> he has to get into the bios first, before even getting the hd to be booted
[04:58] <exmachina> Marfi, n8tuser2, it turns on, like hte fan works, and even the light for CAPSLOCK doens't work
[04:58] <exmachina> he cna't even boot the HD
[04:58] <SeaPhor> what do i need to do in ubuntu 8.04 to share an external usb drive and make it accessible for both ubuntu and windows xp boxes?
[04:58] <powertoo108> noobnoob: the channel logs are online if you are simply trying to save the content
[04:58] <exmachina> like the HD isn't whirring
[04:58] <exmachina> apparently
[04:58] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[04:58] <noobnoob> powertoool08 im trying to log onto another server
[04:58] <noobnoob> while staying in this channel
[04:58] <exmachina> n8tuser2,  the HD isn't whirring and he can't boot up
[04:58] <Marfi> exmachina, tell him to unplug the power from the back, and push the power to drain the power from the mobo
[04:58] <joeb3_> SeaPhor, mount the drive and share it using samba.
[04:59] <noobnoob> without openeng another instance
[04:59] <noobnoob> of xchat
[04:59] <powertoo108> noobnoob: sorry, I don't know how to do that
[04:59] <exmachina> Marfi, how long do you hold it down?"
[04:59] <D-MAN> in open office spreadsheet how do i get my printer to print whole page
[04:59] <D-MAN> ??
[04:59] <eseven73> noobnoob: i think /newserver irc.whatever.org   should do the trick
[04:59] <noobnoob> powertool08 you are a tool :)
[05:00] <powertoo108> noobnoob: I know... where do you think I got my nick? :)
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, just like you would hit the power. if they are savvy enough, have them take the cmos battery out (round battery the size of the quarter on the mother board) and make sure there is nothing plugged into it
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, this basically resets the settings and whatnot, and may get it back up and running
[05:00] <noobnoob> irc.2600.net
[05:00] <exmachina> Marfi does he hit the power button repeatedly or does he hold it down?
[05:00] <Marfi> exmachina, just push it once
[05:00] <exmachina> pushing it once doesn't work
[05:01] <Marfi> exmachina, make sure the power cable from the back is unplugged
[05:01] <joeb3_> noobnoob, CtrlT to open a new server tab.  /server whatever
[05:01] <exmachina> it doesn't even turn off when he holds down the power button
[05:01] <exmachina> the power cable from the back is plugged
[05:01] <exmachina> Marfi, he's on a laptop
[05:01] <Marfi> exmachina, ohhhh, i thought it was a desktop
[05:02] <exmachina> I told him to unplug the battery
[05:02] <Marfi> exmachina, have him unplug the battery and the power cable, let it sit for about a half hour. then i would tell him to plug it back in and try again
[05:02] <alex_21> DAISY is the Digital Accessible Information System, used by visually impaired people for print material, converted to speech I am looking for a guide to using DAISY Pipeline, and installing it. Does anyone know what I can try Googleing, because I run into brick walls everywhere so far, getting only DAISY Pipeline GUI, which isn't what I want
[05:03] <noobnoob> does ubuntu make me a l33t hax0r?
[05:03] <Marfi> noobnoob, no, makes you a noobnoob
[05:03] <Marfi> =)
[05:03] <exmachina> Marfi does he have to still hit the power button?
[05:04] <noobnoob> marfi LOL
[05:04] <powertoo108> noobnoob: upgrades you to l33tnoob
[05:04] <Marfi> alex_21, you could try orca. thats the screen reader built in
[05:04] <noobnoob> powertool08 LOL...
[05:04] <Marfi> exmachina, na, just a quick push to drain any extra power thats in it
[05:04] <noobnoob> how can i become a l33t hax0r?
[05:05] <Marfi> noobnoob, not write in leet
[05:05] <Marfi> for starters
[05:05] <Melik> lol
[05:05] <noobnoob> LOL
[05:05] <exmachina> He'll give it half an hour to see what happens
[05:05] <powertoo108> noobnoob: learn to program, then go from there
[05:05] <alex_21> I know of Orca, but i am trying to convert an text file into an audiobook
[05:05] <avis> has anyone see a bug effect with ATI drivers in intrepid where while playing a video, if totem is moved, there remains a snapshot of the video screen where the window once was -- doesn't show the desktop.  any way to fix this ?
[05:05] <exmachina> And that's why I use gentoo =P ubuntu patches are way too unpredictable
[05:06] <Marfi> alex_21, orca should be able to read the text file, let me see if i can find anything for converting it to audio for you really fast
[05:06] <ZeZu> anyone know of any mirrors for ubuntu cd images?  specifically: xubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc+ps3.iso
[05:08] <alex_21> Not just any audio, rather the DAISY standards
[05:08] <Marfi> alex_21, i found this one page that has a way to convert it to audio   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=876440
[05:09] <Marfi> alex_21, ill check for daisy standards though
[05:09] <Melik> anybody here good with webcam drivers?
[05:09] <luddite> Melik: maybe
[05:09] <Marfi> alex_21, do you know what format the DAISY needs?
[05:10] <gribouille> does linux have problems with realtek sound cards ?
[05:10] <bryanbuchanan> here's what I get trying to install that wireless card driver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83331/
[05:10] <ZeZu> gribouille, sometimes they are a royal PITA to get working
[05:10] <bryanbuchanan> Dunno much about Linux at all, hard to tell if that's even the step it's tripping up on
[05:11] <Marfi> alex_21, and heres one you may want. it converts word documents to DAISY   http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/daisy/
[05:11] <luddite> i wish lyx could export and import .doc files
[05:12] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: not sure if it will help but try running the command with sudo ie: sudo ./makedrv
[05:13] <Errno5> every time i try to install.. im getting an error 'ERRNO 5' ?
[05:13] <Errno5> why
[05:14] <eseven73> is there a way to disable xubuntu's screensaver/power settings? Ive tried setting it to two hours but it never saves, it just keeps blacking out the screen every 5 mins, so annoying!
[05:14] <Marfi> eseven73, just use no screen saver
[05:14] <eseven73> i tried that too
[05:14] <eseven73> :/
[05:15] <bryanbuchanan> powertoo1: get the same thing w/sudo
[05:15] <Marfi> eseven73, or look for the option of when its idle not to dim
[05:17] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: I don't know what to tell you, it looks like the script/source needs editing or you are supposed to provide some other parameter(unlikely since its using its own makedriver script) see if realtek has a channel
[05:17] <alex_21> Marfi: I will check it out, but I think it does, ... oh, that one, ... it just outputs a DAISY XML File, not the whole audio track as well
[05:17] <joeb3_> eseven73, Check the power settings on the monitor.  Mine refers to it as OSD timeout.
[05:17] <alex_21> Thanks though
[05:17] <bernard__> hkgkgkgk
[05:18] <tyebud> I'm having in issue with the name of my joystick.
[05:18] <bryanbuchanan> powertoo1: would it be possible to download a windows driver and use that "WIndows Wireless Drivers" app?
[05:18] <eseven73> ok ty guys
[05:18] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> try disabling the acpid perhaps?
[05:18] <Singer2> hello
[05:18] <Marfi> alex_21 gotcha. sorry i couldn't help more. wish i was more up to date on the standards for ubuntu with that. the college i go to has a few deaf students who i help from time to time
[05:18] <powertoo108> bryanbuchanan: possibly
[05:18] <eseven73> yep did that but didnt reboot yet n8tuser2 , not sure if a reboot is even needed
[05:18] <Singer2> quick question, I just got a quad core Pheon with 8GB of RAM.. I'm planning used it for a desktop/development/testing box... should I go for the desktop or server image?
[05:19] <Singer2> consider the RAM?
[05:19] <Chrysalis> stupid question but how do i jump to next search result in vim, forgot lol
[05:19] <Marfi> alex_21, ****blind. school has a deaf population also   =)
[05:19] <joeb3_> Chrysalis,  /
[05:19] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> how did you disable acpid ?
[05:19] <dmsuperman> Singer2: If you're using it for a desktop/dev/testing box, as in like a normal computer, 8GB is entirely overkill :P
[05:20] <Chrysalis> joeb3_, jump no next '/' searches
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: But Personally, I went with the normal kernel, 32bit, and just enabled PAE
[05:20] <Singer2> dmsuperman: not really, if I loadup 2-3 instaces of MySQL for work with replciation.. it acutally uses a lot of the RAM
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: Here's a guide to enabling PAE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5347489
[05:20] <eseven73> oh that was in ubuntu n8tuser2
[05:20] <jtaji> Singer2: if you need a desktop then use the desktop image, no need for server kernel if that's what you're thinking
[05:20] <eseven73> n8tuser2: it was in some settings thing cant recall now which one it was
[05:20] <dmsuperman> Singer2: 1: Something is seriously wrong then, MySQL never uses that much memory by default
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: 2: Why run more than one instance?
[05:21] <eseven73> n8tuser2: i think it was under Administration>Services
[05:21] <n8tuser2> eseven73--> if you have used /etc/init.d/acpid stop  then no need to reboot
[05:21] <Singer2> jtaji: okay.. so the desktop image will support 8GB of RAM?
[05:21] <ardchoille> Is it possible to have aliases for textboxes? Like type in myemailaddy and have that expand to me@foo.com in any app?
[05:21] <eseven73> oh nice, ok ty n8tuser2 :)
[05:21] <jtaji> Singer2: 64bit will
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: No, it won't which is why you'd need PAE or 64 bit
[05:21] <dmsuperman> Singer2: That guide I sent you is to enable PAE
[05:21] <Singer2> dmsuperman: I'm working with NDB and also replication
[05:22] <dmsuperman> I personally don't want to deal with 64 bit, but to each his own
[05:22] <Singer2> cool, downloading now
[05:22] <Singer2> NDB = memory hog.. as all yoru indexes have to be in RAM
[05:22] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: I've personally been looking for a good solution to that. I guess "snippits" is alright, but I couldn't get it to work for me
[05:22] <Veinor> Is it possible to control fan speed on a HP Pavilion dv9235nr?
[05:22] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: You could give it a try
[05:22] <alex_21> And also, the thing you said requires Microsoft word. I am using The Open Office extention instead to do that task.  Thanks again, blind smiley
[05:22] <Singer2> testing replication = at least 2 instances
[05:23] <bdelin88> hey, i need to have a .bin/.cue file mounted ASAP, can anyone help?
[05:23] <omar> #linuxac
[05:23] <bdelin88> i have tried bchunk and it only makes a bunch of files in a folder, no good
[05:23] <dmsuperman> !cue | bdelin88
[05:23] <jtaji> !iso | bdelin88
[05:23] <slayerboyWRK> Veinor: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Is+it+possible+to+control+fan+speed+on+a+HP+Pavilion+dv9235nr%3F
[05:23] <Errno5> im getting Errno 5.. while installing Ubuntu 8.10.. anyone any solution about it?
[05:23] <bdelin88> jtaji: it's not an iso
[05:24] <bdelin88> it is .bin/.cue
[05:24] <jtaji> bdelin88: hit the link for conversion instructions
[05:24] <alex_21> Veinor: Yes, download HPs Linux drivers for the fan you want to control. It is an RPM or something though. There is a guide on the Ubuntu Help/wiki pages
[05:24] <bdelin88> i love how brasero converts to that format yet, it is not a native to linux like .iso...
[05:24] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: I can't see snippits in the repos, do you know the name of the app?
[05:24] <Veinor> slayerboyWRK: :|
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: It's called snippits but it's not in the repos, it's a ruby app
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Lemme find a link
[05:25] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: http://lifehacker.com/351285/automate-repetitive-typing-with-snippits
[05:25] <Errno5> im getting Errno 5.. while installing Ubuntu 8.10.. anyone any solution about it?
[05:26] <slayerboyWRK> Veinor: sorry wasn't nice I know :(
[05:26] <gribouille> I'm trying to compile the alsa driver, but the compile fails because of the unknown function hrtimer_forward_now
[05:26] <dmsuperman> !repeat | Errno5
[05:26] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: Thanks
[05:28] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Sure thing
[05:28] <Errno5> ill try 7.10.. will wubi install Ubunt7.10?
[05:29] <hakr> no
[05:30] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Wubi was a new feature with 8.04
[05:30] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Try 8.04, it's the LTS as well
[05:30] <bdelin88> ok... this guide is not working fast enough, i need a .bin/.cue mounting solution like right now
[05:30] <Errno5> 8.10 is giving errno 5.. everytime i try to install it.
[05:30] <Errno5> is 8.04 okay?
[05:30] <D-MAN> how can i get the hplp drivers for my printer?
[05:30] <bdelin88> the freaking link is not even working
[05:31] <natsukao>  have you seen the new laptop totally free ? free hardware and free bios on which runs GNU/linux ? http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong9c.html
[05:31] <BlearyBram> hi again
[05:31] <dmsuperman> !patience | bdelin88
[05:32] <dmsuperman> Errno5: Try it
[05:32] <bdelin88> no this is crap
[05:32] <bdelin88> brasero comes with ubuntu
[05:32] <bdelin88> yet ubuntu has no native mounting software
[05:32] <dmsuperman> natsukao: Take discussion like that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:32] <bdelin88> brasero made .cue/.bin format
[05:32] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: A poor attitude won't get you any help
[05:32] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Nobody is obligated to help you
[05:32] <bdelin88> dmsuperman, yea well i relaly need this asap i have a final tomorrow
[05:32] <jrgp> bdelin88, acting all greedy only turns us away from you
[05:32] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i know that...
[05:33] <bdelin88> jrgp: greedy?
[05:33] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I'm sorry, but treating volunteers like crap isn't the way to get us to help you
[05:33] <BlearyBram> hi again, do anyone have any problems with X server since upgraded to Intrepid from Hardy?
[05:33] <dmsuperman> BlearyBram: I couldn't even get it to run with my nvidia drivers
[05:33] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yea i know man but u sent me to a guide, i mean... isn't there something in the repos?
[05:33] <alex_21> Ubi installs 7.04 and greater. It was official in 8.04
[05:33] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i'm just in a tight spot and i need this thing to get mounted
[05:33] <BlearyBram> bdelin88: calm down first
[05:33] <jrgp> bdelin88, what do you need to get mounted?
[05:34] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you don't want to follow the instructions then there's not much we can do for you
[05:34] <dmsuperman> jrgp: He wants to mount a .bin/.cu
[05:34] <dmsuperman> .cue*
[05:34] <bdelin88> jrgp: ok... brasero made a .bin/.cue of a cd i want to get mounted
[05:34] <jrgp> ah
[05:34] <jrgp> there's a way of doing that
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Yeah
[05:34] <bdelin88> jrgp: i know windows has gui programs for this and i am trying to find a quick solution to mount this
[05:34] <dmsuperman> !iso
[05:34] <jrgp> from the command line
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Convert to .iso
[05:34] <dmsuperman> And then mount the iso
[05:34] <jrgp> indeed
[05:34] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i am eager to learn :)
[05:34] <dmsuperman> mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/iso /media/mountpoint
[05:34] <dmsuperman> Something like that
[05:35] <bdelin88> where do i put the path to the .bin/.cue?
[05:36] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Gotta convert to .iso
[05:36] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yes, but in order to do that i need the path to the .bin/.cue and then make a path to .iso that i want, right?
[05:36] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: sbippits doesn't seem to be what I need.
[05:36] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: But, thanks for letting me know about it :)
[05:36] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: bdelin88 Something like that
[05:36] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Are you sure?
[05:37] <eseven73> i dont see how snippets is any easier than emacs macros :/
[05:37] <jrgp> eseven73, use nano
[05:37] <eseven73> maybe im missing something
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: Do you want to basically type ";me" and have it expand to "blah@me.com
[05:37] <eseven73> i do jrgp :)
[05:37] <bdelin88> ...
[05:37] <dmsuperman> eseven73: emacs macros are emacs only
[05:37] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: ye
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: I'm fairly sure it does that
[05:37] <dmsuperman> ardchoille: With just a bit of finessing
[05:37] <eseven73> dmsuperman: do you have to have compiz?
[05:38] <dmsuperman> eseven73: Er, of course not
[05:38] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: mount -t iso9660 -o loop path/to/iso /media/mountpoint (i see the path to the iso output file i want, but where do i put the path to .bin/.cue file?)
[05:38] <jrgp> it's just extra special effects
[05:38] <jrgp> not necessary
[05:38] <eseven73> ah
[05:38] <jrgp> but they do look really cool
[05:38] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You have to convert the .bin/.cue to a .iso like I said
[05:38] <ardchoille> dmsuperman: so this ruby script is a daemon and is present at all times without me having to start it each time?
[05:38] <jrgp> :3
[05:38] <dmsuperman> jrgp: It's a lot more than that but yeah not necessary
[05:38] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have gmount so mounting the iso is no problem, i am trying to find out how to convert it to an iso
[05:39] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Right, so read this guide:
[05:39] <dmsuperman> !iso
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: bchunk fails miserablyh
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i did, the link is broken to the solution i need
[05:39] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: bin2iso
[05:39] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Have you tried googling for bin2iso
[05:40] <Singer2> OMG
[05:40] <Singer2> they stroke
[05:40] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yes i am trying.. wow i never thought i would have this much trouble with this
[05:40] <dmsuperman> Singer2: Hrm?
[05:40] <Singer2> sorry
[05:40] <android60> how long can sata cables be before being problematic?
[05:40] <Singer2> wrong windows..
[05:40] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I know it doesn't help now, but in the future a good standard format .iso is always the best thing to rip to
[05:40] <alex_21> Hi, small laptops ther, and I would wonder what the price is. They are ultimately the best for my small school lab project
[05:40] <jrgp> android60, forever?
[05:40] <dmsuperman> android60: The maximum length is 3 feet afaik
[05:41] <Singer2> android60: depending on quality.. but no more then .9m
[05:41] <android60> so a 3ft cable should be good to go?
[05:41] <Singer2> dmsuperman: the public transit in my major city is ons trike
[05:41] <Singer2> android60: why so long?
[05:41] <android60> i need to be able to run it from the back of the comp to external devices
[05:41] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: that is the problem though man...
[05:42] <android60> just for temporary quick things
[05:42] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: brasero comes with ubuntu and doesn't give you that option!
[05:42] <dmsuperman> android60: You want an eSATA cable/port
[05:42] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it doesn't make any sense you know?
[05:42] <Singer2> have you thought of an esata port/cable?
[05:42] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I've never had it not give me the option for iso
[05:42] <android60> ya i have the port but i just wanted to see length of the cable
[05:42] <android60> first
[05:42] <bdelin88> it only gave me 3 options for formats
[05:42] <dmsuperman> android60: But yeah I'm fairly certain 3ft is the max length for sata, lemme double check for you
[05:42] <android60> ok
[05:42] <calc> android60: eSATA cables are apparently good up to 2m
[05:43] <dmsuperman> android60: 1m maximum length
[05:43] <android60> ok thanks for the info guys i appreciate it
[05:43] <dmsuperman> calc: Really? Last I used them eSATA had the same max as internal
[05:43] <calc> android60: but yes regular SATA Is only 1m
[05:43] <android60> ya
[05:43] <calc> dmsuperman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA <- if that is accurate anyway
[05:44]  * BlearyBram noticed something different: when he ran the LiveCD, the display is fine.
[05:44] <bdelin88> my god i do not have time to do all this conversion, there must be an easier way
[05:44] <dmsuperman> Oh yeah it appears to be correct, 2m eSATA 1m SATA
[05:44] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: This time you waste not running it is time that could be saved if you just started the process
[05:45] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It doesn't take that logn to convert a .bin to a .iso
[05:45] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What happens with bchunk?
[05:45] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have no idea which one to download and the website lacks a quick explanation: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/#download
[05:46] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: well bchunk worked fine until it decided to split the entire .iso into 15 different parts
[05:46] <DigitalFiz> weird
[05:46] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i am not sure if i need CDEmenu client or gCDEmu
[05:46] <DigitalFiz> my ipod touch keeps connecting and siconnecting really quickly
[05:47] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What arguments did you pass to bchunk?
[05:47] <dmsuperman> DigitalFiz: Disconnect it, power down, power up, reconnect it?
[05:47] <DigitalFiz> ahhhh!
[05:47] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: one sec
[05:47] <DigitalFiz> i just got like 500 diologs about fspot and opening the ipod drive
[05:47] <alex_21> Hey, can someone PM me about the fact that I have three new hard drives comming in and have no more sata prts on my Motherboard. What can I do?
[05:48] <DigitalFiz> its an ipod touch it doesnt have disk use mode
[05:48] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i tried - "bchunk brasero.bin brasero.cue music3.iso" and "bchunk brasero.bin brasero.cue music3"
[05:48] <dmsuperman> alex_21: You can get a PCI daughter board with SATA ports on them
[05:48] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And what do you get when it completes?
[05:49] <Errno5> [Errno 5] Input/output error :(
[05:49] <alex_21> Daughter board with SATA ports, how much does that cost?
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: a bunch of files named "music3.iso02.cdr" "music3.iso03.cdr" etc...., 36 items
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: over 50 now
[05:50] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And it was completed? Or still running?
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: still running now,i waited last time though
[05:50] <high-freq> anyone got a garmin m-nav 650 workin with gpsd yet?
[05:50] <dmsuperman> alex_21: Take a look on newegg.com if you live in the US, I wouldn't imagine too much money
[05:50] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it's done, 69 items named like above
[05:51] <bdelin88> bchunk is epic fail right now
[05:51] <Errno5> i dont find any solution to [Errno 5] Input/output error while installing on forums even?
[05:51] <Errno5> anyone here or i should give-up trying install again n again
[05:52] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It appears that it thinks it's an audio CD
[05:52] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: It creates .cdr files when it's an audio CD
[05:52] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it is an audio cd, but it is supposed to just convert it to .iso
[05:52] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: all i want is .iso, how do i tell it to do that?
[05:52] <alex_21> Ok, thanks.
[05:52] <alex_21> Good night.
[05:53] <alex_21> Good night. Bani Bash
[05:53] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Do you want to play them back?
[05:53] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Or does it _have_ to be in .iso
[05:54] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you just want to play them back, "sox file.cdr new.wav" converts them to normal audio files
[05:54] <kapildev> want to run sudo without prompting for password.
[05:54] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it has to be an .iso
[05:54] <kapildev> dave    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[05:54] <kapildev> does not work.
[05:54] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You could use mkisofs to put them back into an iso
[05:55] <dmsuperman> But I'm not sure the arguments for audio cds
[05:55] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: can i just run an apt-get install for that?
[05:55] <dmsuperman> For what? mkisofs?
[05:55] <dmsuperman> Should be installed already I think
[05:55] <Wicked> is there anyway to just have one bar in gnome?
[05:55] <LogicalDash> Power Management has a checkbox to dim my backlight whenever I unplug the power; I want it to set the backlight to the *lowest available setting* when I unplug, and keep it that way. How do I do this?
[05:55] <doorknob60> Wicked: delete the other one
[05:55] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yup it is
[05:56] <LogicalDash> Wicked: you can right-click the panel you want to remove and select Delete This Panel
[05:56] <Wicked> doorknob60, well yea..but then my open apps are off in la la land.
[05:56] <doorknob60> Wicked: then right click the one you wanna keep and add the missing stuff to it, its pretty easy
[05:56] <Wicked> i want one panel to have the menu stuff and the open apps and all that
[05:56] <z987k> got a problem, hopefully someone can help:  installed proftpd and gproftpd from synaptic and I get " fatal: Socket operation on non-socket" when trying to execute proftpd
[05:56] <Wicked> oh
[05:56] <Wicked> ok
[05:56] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: man... this is way too complicated
[05:56] <doorknob60> Wicked: add task list (i think its called) on the leftover panel
[05:56] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That's why I just like .iso :P
[05:57] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: yea that's what i wanted it in originally
[05:57] <mespejel> i have a big
[05:57] <mespejel> very big ploblem
[05:58] <mespejel> :(
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i just want this thing back to .iso and just like the original cd
[05:58] <Wicked> doorknob60, im not really seeing anything like that
[05:58] <indian> ?
[05:58] <Wicked> under the add to panel window
[05:58] <indian> hold on
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: does mkisofs know how to put it back exactly? the tracks MUST be in the original order
[05:58] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You could use cdrecord to burn them back to a CD
[05:58] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: don't have any blanks on me man or i would
[05:59] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: wonder if brasero can convert it
[05:59] <doorknob60> WIcked: well i havent used gnome in like 6 months, but right click the panel, click Add To Panel, and it should be in there. something like task lisk, windows list, or task manager probably its called
[05:59] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Try running bchunk without the .cue
[05:59] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: bchunk file.bin out.iso
[05:59] <Wicked> window list. thanks!
[05:59] <doorknob60> np
[05:59] <LogicalDash> bdelin88: You want to convert some image file to .iso? try the program, "iat"
[06:00] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i will try
[06:00] <lxnb> hello, I have intel core2 duel, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:00] <LogicalDash> lxnb: i386 probably
[06:00] <bdelin88> LogicalDash: will look into it, it's an emergency, lol, thanks :)
[06:00] <LogicalDash> bdelin88: np
[06:00] <l7> any ubuntu mactel users here?
[06:00] <rdw200169> l7: you mean ubuntu on a mac?
[06:01] <l7> rdw200169: yeah
[06:01] <rdw200169> l7: when i did it, i use rEFIt, and boot camp
[06:01] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: Example: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -v  Verbose mode
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -r  Raw mode for MODE2/2352: write all 2352 bytes from offset 0 (VCD/MPEG)
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -p  PSX mode for MODE2/2352: write 2336 bytes from offset 24
[06:01] <bdelin88>       (default MODE2/2352 mode writes 2048 bytes from offset 24)
[06:01] <FloodBot1> bdelin88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <bdelin88>   -w  Output audio files in WAV format
[06:01] <l7> i've been wondering what works and what doesn't on the new macbooks
[06:01] <LogicalDash> lxnb: 64-bit computers usually have some kind of label on them saying they're 64-bit
[06:01] <lxnb> I have intel core2 duo, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:01] <l7> rdw200169: why refit as a bootloader instead of lilo or grub?
[06:02] <lxnb> I have intel core2 duo, and 2048RAM, should I install x86_64 or just i386?
[06:02] <calc> i LogicalDash all new cpus pretty much (besides atom) are 64bit
[06:02] <LogicalDash> !repeat | lxnb
[06:02] <l7> oh, refit = efi i guess?
[06:02] <rdw200169> l7: i don't know about the new ones, they have NVIDIA, so they should work well... NVIDIA drivers are on point
[06:02] <dmsuperman> !64bit | lxnb
[06:02] <jtaji> lxnb: no reason really for 64bit, I'd stick with i386
[06:02] <dmsuperman> lxnb: It's up to you
[06:02] <calc> lxnb: 64bit would be faster has more registers, etc
[06:02] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: there's the output, maybe i can tell it to keep it as .iso??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/83349/
[06:02] <rdw200169> l7: you use both, but you have to trick the EFI (mac BIOS replacement) into loading the linux boot camp part, but still allow you to load mac
[06:02] <l7> rdw200169: do the macs with ATI cards not work so well?
[06:02] <lxnb> thanks guys!
[06:02] <dmsuperman> lxnb: Personally I would never go with 64bit, it's usually full of issues
[06:02] <mespejel> Here is my problem: I am using ubuntu with vmware in a macbook. The thing is that there is no video card support for linux using vmware.. my mistake was to open a supertux game.. it freeze. since my main OS is leopard.. i cannot just shutdown the computer with force.. i actually need to shut down it normally. and i cant do it.. cause it is freeze.. everytime i try to log in that happens.
[06:03] <mespejel> it just satay like that
[06:03] <rdw200169> l7: it's the ati drivers, they're worse than NVIDIA, but they still work
[06:03] <calc> dmsuperman: what issues are those, i'm running it here fine
[06:03] <calc> of course i also did the initial porting in debian 5 years ago
[06:03] <dmsuperman> calc: Compatibility problems, not everything works easy like it does 32bit
[06:03] <LogicalDash> mespejel: type alt+f2 and then xkill
[06:03] <LogicalDash> mespejel: then click on the vmware window
[06:04] <dmsuperman> calc: Flash has only recently gotten better 64bit support
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: you still haven't actually said what though
[06:04] <LogicalDash> mespejel: it should quietly close
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: flash worked fine with 32bit on 64bit as well
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: well as well as flash ever works
[06:04] <crawlthewarriork> can anyone explain how come when I use apt-get or add/remove software it downloads really slow but when I use firefox my dl speeds are pretty fast? Is there a config I need to fix?
[06:04] <dmsuperman> :P
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: its constantly crashing on my wife's windows (32bit) machine as well
[06:04] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: any ideas on that output?
[06:04] <dmsuperman> Virtual Machines too
[06:04] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yeah I'm not sure
[06:04] <zedu> i dont get audio in flash videos since i upgraded to 8.10
[06:04] <l7> rdw200169: ah well that's good to know.  i suppose the intel drivers are probably the best aren't they?  in terms of being open source rather than nvidia's binary blobs?
[06:04] <calc> dmsuperman: vmware works fine on amd64 and has for a long time
[06:04] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: If you can get the CD back I'd just rip it to .iso, if not I have no idea
[06:05] <LogicalDash> mespejel: unless you mean that the virtual machine is running inside of OSX? in that case you'd have to use OSX's way of killing hung processes
[06:05] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it says i need the .cue, but can i tell it to just make it an .iso, according to that output?
[06:05] <mespejel> LogicalDash: i will try that
[06:05] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Worst case scenario you could try getting poweriso for linux and mount / convert it like that
[06:05] <rdw200169> l7: there are also open source nvidia drivers, i just prefer the binaries b/c they have more features
[06:05] <mespejel> yes of cousre is a virutal machine inside OSX
[06:05] <mespejel> its vmware
[06:05] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: do they have a linux version?
[06:05] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: A command line one, yes
[06:06] <LogicalDash> mespejel: try googling for [osx force quit]
[06:06] <alexserver> hi, I need personal assistance to compile a module within a kernel, I dont know how to do that
[06:06] <dmsuperman> calc: I dislike vmware, so vbox for me, and that's had issues
[06:06] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: grr...command lind
[06:06] <l7> mespejel: actually there's a choice of several VM appliances for OSX: vmware, parallels and virtualbox... and also qemu
[06:06] <rdw200169> l7: i followed some excellent tutorials on installing ubuntu on a mac, they won't steer you wrong
[06:06] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: command line*
[06:06] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: You mean "yay command line"
[06:06] <l7> mespejel: and some smaller ones too
[06:07] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: lol, yea...... no, not right now actually
[06:07] <calc> dmsuperman: ah, i've tried various other vm's and had issues with them even on 32bit so just stuck with vmware
[06:07] <LogicalDash> l7: I thought that qemu == virtualbox?
[06:07] <l7> rdw200169: yeah i'm a bit on the fence about whether to try ubuntu on a newer macbook
[06:07] <alexserver> may anyone help me to compile a module within a kernel
[06:07] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i plan on learning that over break, but now is not the time
[06:07] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That should be able to do it, checking the quick help it appears it can directly convert it to a .iso
[06:07] <dmsuperman> calc: Funnily it's the same for me but vbox
[06:07] <calc> l7: buy a thinkpad X200 instead :)
[06:07] <l7> rdw200169: how was your experience with ubuntu as far as dual booting osx and ubuntu vs running ubuntu in a VM?
[06:07] <dmsuperman> calc: vmware can never do shared folders or audio correctly, at the very least
[06:08] <Daemonik> Is there a way to get machines booted from a ubuntu ltsp server to automount the cdrom drive on /cdrom? I would install ltspfs but I'm using this thin-client to connect to an NX server. The NX server accesses the thin-clients with Nautilus use sftp://sftp-cdrom@$NXUSERIP/media/cdrom, I've installed hal, when I look at ps aux it's running, but it doesn't automount the disc :-\
[06:08] <dmsuperman> calc: Plus seamless mode is pretty sexy :P
[06:08] <rdw200169> l7: using rEFIt, it's been a piece of cake
[06:08] <l7> LogicalDash: virtualbox is based on qemu but i think it's a bit more robust
[06:08] <dmsuperman> But, I have to go to bed
[06:08] <rdw200169> l7: refit gives me a boot menu, giving me the options of mac or ubuntu, right when i turn it on
[06:08] <dmsuperman> Gnight all
[06:08] <calc> dmsuperman: hmm i should take a look at vbox then i might have missed it when looking at stuff before
[06:08] <alexserver> may anyone help me to compile a module within a kernel
[06:08] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i have poweriso on my desktop, how in the world do i run this thing... or install it?
[06:08] <mespejel> LogicalDash: i undesrtand what you are saying now.. of course i try to just quit it.. but what always happens is that it will supend the os (linux.. in that state.. and when i try to log in it wil start the same.. i mean just by force quit it will not shut down the linux os
[06:08] <LogicalDash> !repeat | alexserver
[06:09] <l7> calc: as much as i like Ubuntu, it's too tweaky for me so far.
[06:09] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it just says "poweriso" with no extension after i extracted from tar.gz
[06:09] <l7> calc: hence, i still want to use OSX in some form
[06:09] <LogicalDash> mespejel: Well, in VirtualBox there's an option to discard the saved state when the machine is suspended. Does VMWare have something like that?
[06:09] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yeah, it's an executable
[06:09] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: extract it and type "poweriso -?"
[06:09] <alexserver> MAN !!! IS SO HARD TO KNOW ABOUT UBUNTU !!!
[06:09] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: k
[06:10] <l7> rdw200169: yeah, i'm not sure i like splitting my environment with a dual boot though
[06:10] <mespejel> LogicalDash: ok, good idea, i will look for it
[06:10] <mespejel> actually im going to vmware room
[06:10] <mespejel> brb
[06:10] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: nothing happens
[06:10] <l7> rdw200169: how much did you use ubuntu vs osx or windows?
[06:10] <glax> HI guys, I am trying to configure a wireless card on a compaq. lspci -nn returns this "06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card [14e4:4311] (rev 01)", I already install bcm43xx-fwcutter and do modprobe bcm43xx but still the card is not detected
[06:10] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: What's it say
[06:10] <calc> alexserver: what kernel module are you trying to compile? is it not already compiled in ubuntu?
[06:10] <rdw200169> l7: well, i use ubuntu exclusively, but i've been using it for many yeras
[06:10] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: command not found
[06:10] <alexserver> people, i have a compaq presario, amd sempron, nvidia chipset, new ubuntu intrepid doesnt recognize my dvd
[06:10] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: "./poweriso -?"
[06:11] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: definitely didn't do the "./" part
[06:11] <rdw200169> l7: i just wish i could use the Omni products in linux...
[06:11] <rdw200169> l7: omnigraffle is the greatest thing on earth, but that's off topic
[06:11] <alexserver> calc: i found this page saying my problem could be solved if I compile ATA and IDE modules
[06:12] <alexserver> calc: http://thomer.com/howtos/dma_on_sata_dvd.html
[06:12] <gcbirzan> Hm. I'm trying to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid via de the update manager and I just clicked on the "upgrade" button. Is it supposed to gray out the whole update manager window and not say anything for, uhm, 5 minutes?
[06:12] <alexserver> it says "Compile IDE and SATA into the kernel"
[06:13]  * calc been using ubuntu for 4 years now, debian for 6 years before that, and slackware for 3 before that
[06:13] <calc> alexserver: hmm i'm pretty sure i have dma on my sata dvd-rw without having to compile it directly in
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: that doc you are referring to is REALLY OLD
[06:14] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i need your help maybe one last time, can you look at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83351/ and tell me how i should convert this thing, i just tried it and it said invalid file format, could u just gimme a correct example with all your infinite command line knowledge?
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: 2.6.18 came out in sep 2006
[06:14] <calc> alexserver: i'm pretty sure you don't need to do that anymore
[06:14] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: it shouldn't be that long…
[06:14] <gcbirzan> SATA doesn't have PIO
[06:15] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: i did: ./poweriso convert /home/bryce/Desktop/cd3/brasero.bin -o /home/bryce/Desktop/music3.iso -ot iso
[06:15] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: I'm looking at the process list and I can see a "sleep 577" in there, heh.
[06:15] <alexserver> calc: what i need is to set my dvd-rw drive dma on
[06:15] <alexserver> cacl: and i can't do that
[06:15] <BlearyBram> calc: what do you think about the remedy of this bug #284408 about AMD dropping support for older display cards.
[06:15] <ReK_> Hey, I'm having problems getting networking to work with ubuntu as a guest OS in vmware
[06:16] <gcbirzan> alexserver: You probably don't, since it should be on by default.
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: should be done by default i think, looking at my system now
[06:16] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: A-ha! I got the release notes dialog. :-)
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: That looks right
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: I'm not sure what's up
[06:16] <ReK_> It doesn't seem to be connecting at all. It should be bridged over, but my router never see ubuntu trying for an ip
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: yea its on by default on my system
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Something is wrong with something, I don't know how to fix it from here
[06:16] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: And I need to get some sleep :(
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: hdparm -i /dev/scd0 (or whatever on your system)
[06:16] <calc> alexserver: UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[06:16] <alexserver> calc: i've seen my dmesg and there is some trouble with bios, so my dvd mode is in PIO, not DMA
[06:17] <BlearyBram> I didn't think I've used fglrx but now the X Org simply unable to use any graphics card features (mine is a ATi Radeon Mobility 9200, it's a 3-4 year old machine).
[06:17] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: it's alright, thanks man
[06:17] <BlearyBram> calc: right, there you go.
[06:17] <bdelin88> dmsuperman: appreciate the help and patience
[06:17] <calc> alexserver: hdparm -d 1 /dev/scd0 might fix it
[06:17] <BlearyBram> oops, I meant gcbirzan
[06:17] <dmsuperman> bdelin88: Yup
[06:17] <calc> BlearyBram: so use the open source radeon driver?
[06:17] <alexserver> calc: I  know, I've been tried, but ot doesnt works, the troubles goes beyond I think
[06:17] <calc> BlearyBram: it fully supports your card
[06:18] <BlearyBram> well, open source or not, it doesn't help.
[06:18] <ganesh> is it possible to do gtalk  in ubuntu
[06:18] <calc> alexserver: get an updated bios?
[06:18] <BlearyBram> I've been even stupid enough to install the latest driver without realising that it isn't imcompatible.
[06:18] <alexserver> calc: yes
[06:18] <BlearyBram> !pidgin| ganesh
[06:18] <gcbirzan> calc: Actually, I don't think it does.
[06:19] <alexserver> calc: let me show you the problematic line
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a way, in nautilus, to open a terminal window at the current location?
[06:19] <ganesh> BlearyBram, pidgin does only chat
[06:19] <ganesh> BlearyBram, i want to do voice chat
[06:19] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, skype or ekiga
[06:20] <gcbirzan> Oh, or. You mean the old open source driver.
[06:20] <alexserver> calc:   [    5.608485] ata4.00: ATAPI: MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-850S, 1.05, max MWDMA2
[06:20] <balrog> why is gtk-window-decorator taking up 4.0 GiB of memory?  http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsystemmonitorkn7.png
[06:20] <alexserver> calc: [    5.608500] ata4: nv_mode_filter: 0x39f&0x7001->0x1, BIOS=0x0 (0x0) ACPI=0x7001 (60:600:0x11)
[06:20] <grendal_prime> I want an ai program that talks to me...like jarvis in iron man
[06:20] <gcbirzan> balrog: Because on 32bit machines, that's the maximum amout of memory a process can use? :-P
[06:20] <alexserver> calc: anf then [    5.624487] ata4.00: configured for PIO0
[06:20] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, through ekiga we have to register & to get some permission
[06:20] <grendal_prime> it doesnt exist do it
[06:20] <calc> BlearyBram: so why not just get rid of fglrx on your system and install the open source driver? i don't understand what you are complaining about, yes commercial companies drop support for old obsolete hardware that is why open source drivers are important
[06:21] <balrog> gcbirzan: so, youre telling me that gtk=window-decorator has one hell of a memory leak problem?
[06:21] <alexserver> calc: see ? my ubuntu is configured for DMA, but something goes wrong and then it sets to PIO
[06:21] <calc> alexserver: ouch an nvidia motherboard chipset, i'm sorry
[06:21] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, get some permission? do you just want to connect directly?
[06:21] <BlearyBram> calc: the problem isn't that: the problem is that a) I don't know where to drop the driver and b) even vesa is NOT responding.
[06:21] <balrog> gcbirzan: *gtk-window-decorator
[06:21] <alexserver> calc: what ? is tha so bad ?
[06:22] <calc> alexserver: nvidia is really anti open source and they have had buggy motherboard stuff in the past which might be why you are seeing that
[06:22] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, i do not want any similar applications which help for voice chat , i did skype but i didnt have any idea over ekiga
[06:22]  * grendal_prime loves his 1420 with nivida card
[06:22]  * calc notes his wife is calling so has to run for a bit
[06:22] <alex_21> Hi, can someone please PM me. I need to know about any good gnome GPS software that works on Ubuntu/Ubuntu-mobile
[06:22]  * grendal_prime never had an invidia card before.
[06:22] <ganesh> Seven_Six_Two, how am i using gmail in ubuntu like that i want to use the gtalk in ubuntu
[06:23] <alexserver> calc: dont tell me that !!! so am I in troubles ?
[06:23] <powertool08> ganesh: empathy looks like it will do the job http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=819046
[06:23] <balrog> nvidia is not anti foss, they just created a memory manager, and they dont want to open source that because it will give the ati drivers an advantage over what ati currently nas (nothing)
[06:23] <ganesh> powertool08, sure empathy will do that
[06:23] <Seven_Six_Two> ganesh, oh sorry, I must have come late. I never got it to work, that's why I use skype.
[06:23] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: I'm not sure exactly how you're supposed to do it in Ubuntu, but in Debian, installing fglrx is just a matter of running m-a a-i fglrx
[06:24] <balrog> so, nobody knows why gtk-window-decorator is using 4.0 GiB of ram?
[06:24] <gcbirzan> Which m-a is part of module-assistant
[06:24] <powertool08> ganesh: look at the link and see if it looks like it will work for you
[06:24] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: is fglrx a closed or open-source thing? (just checking)
[06:25] <alexserver> calc: when  was using ubuntu 7.04 my dvd was working like a charm !!! so, there is no hope to me for make this works in 8.10 ?
[06:25] <alexserver> calc: should I get back to 7.04 ?
[06:25] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: It's the proprietary driver. The open source radeonhd one won't work for your card, and the old open source one is called, ah...  Hm, I forgot. :-P
[06:25] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan: ah, removing fglrx does the trick, thanks. :P
[06:25] <gcbirzan> BlearyBram: ati, maybe? *shrugs* 'sbeen a while since I bothered with it, since it doesn't support my video card at all.
[06:25] <powertool08> BlearyBram: gcbirzan "ati" or "radeon"
[06:26] <Acedip> how to compile and run java programs in 8.10
[06:26] <BlearyBram> gcbirzan, powertool08: it seemed to be resolved for now, though I'd update the (open) radeon driver just for sure.
[06:26] <BlearyBram> I didn't even know I had fglrx!
[06:27] <BlearyBram> must be part of the restricted drivers I've installed in the restricted package.
[06:29] <alexserver> calc: are you there man ?
[06:29] <Severian> Howdy.  I want to make a JeOS installed system run gnome on startup.  I have been searching the web for what to do, and have not found instructions for 8.10(intrepid ibex).  Any suggestions?
[06:29] <Acedip> how to compile and run java programs in 8.10 ??
[06:30] <calc> alexserver: back now
[06:30] <lif0> hey hey hey
[06:30] <calc> alexserver: does the kern.log mention anything about why it doesn't have dma? it might be blacklisted or something
[06:30] <alex_21> Hey, thanks for all your help
[06:30] <alex_21> Good night. Bani bash
[06:30] <Synchronos> Can someone please help me figure out why I can't see any of my windows in the bottom taskbar?
[06:31] <alexserver> calc: where is the ken.log stored ?
[06:31] <Severian> Acedip, install the sun-java6-bin package
[06:31] <alex_21> Synchronos: Is it the same reason I can't. Blind smiley. No, probably not. Did you minimize them at any point?
[06:32] <calc> alexserver: var/log
[06:32] <alex_21> Oh, did you get rid off the bottom pannel?
[06:32] <Synchronos> alex_21: no the bottom panel is there  I just can't see the windows
[06:33] <ganesh> powertool08, ok
[06:33] <Synchronos> alex_21: also this applies to all my windows when I start them up.
[06:34] <alexserver> calc: i have found it, I'm reading it, do you have any clue ? any keyword so i can find such error if there was ?
[06:36] <shbika> Does anyone know a way to use skype without killing the pulseaudio
[06:36] <calc> alexserver: not really sure, it depends on what they felt like putting on the output
[06:36] <Ayabara> !lighttpd
[06:36] <jtaji> Severian: sudo aptitutde install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/83362/
[06:37] <rdw200169> shbika: you might be able to use padsp
[06:37] <Severian> jtaji, There is more to it than that.  Gnome does not start.
[06:37] <Wicked> ive downloaded some themes from gnome look ...where do i put them?
[06:37] <Severian> At least not automatically.  I tried startx, but that did not work.
[06:38] <powertool08> macjason0607: what are you trying to do? resize a partition or something?
[06:38] <jtaji> Severian: than maybe it's an issue specific to JeOS, any reason you are using it?
[06:38] <macjason0607> powertool08, copy all the contents
[06:38] <macjason0607> i got it
[06:38] <macjason0607> thanks anyway
[06:38] <iuri> hi there, i installed diff-ext and meld on my box. how do i link both
[06:39] <alexserver> calc: i saw the same 3 lines i show you before
[06:39] <alexserver> calc: ata4: nv_mode_filter: 0x39f&0x7001->0x1, BIOS=0x0 (0x0) ACPI=0x7001 (60:600:0x11)
[06:39] <Severian> jtaji, What I am really doing is building virtual machines with vmbuilder.  It starts with JeOS as a base.
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: not sure what that means other than maybe its your bios screwing up your system?
[06:40] <shbika> rdw200169: can you please explain more what is padsp ? How can I use it for skype
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: looks like a register and port number maybe, but not sure
[06:40] <calc> alexserver: i haven't looked at ide kernel stuff in many years
[06:41] <rmendoza> hello
[06:41] <Severian> jtaji, The problem left is to configure gdm properly, I believe.  Instructions on how to setup Gnome on Ubuntu Server or JeOS would probably tell me what is left to do.
[06:41] <rmendoza> hello i am new here
[06:41] <jtaji> Severian: on ubuntu server installing ubuntu-desktop will work.. your issue is specific to JeOS or your virtualization setup
[06:41] <alexserver> calc: could you tell mw who can help me? or where do i have to go so i can solve this unfortunate problem ?
[06:42] <calc> alexserver: file a bug report in launchpad?
[06:42] <jtaji> Severian: and I'm not at all familiar with JeOS except knowing it's stripped down, including the kernel
[06:42] <alexserver> calc: I also have a report regarding ths isue
[06:43] <alexserver> calc: but no one hav answered, I suppose because it's a new complain
[06:43] <actionfigure> video problem
[06:43] <alex_21> Synchronos: I have no idea about your windows. Blind appologetic smiley. Sorry
[06:44] <alexserver> calc: I suppose i need to have patience so hopefully this issue could be solved in next relase
[06:44] <actionfigure> i have an intel i810 and the xf86-video-intel is installed but i cant run blender..it crashed...i wanna know how to replace it with the xf86-video-i810....
[06:45] <actionfigure> anyone help?
[06:46] <renjith> Hi All
[06:46] <Zeroedout> are those package names?
[06:47] <renjith> is this possible to get default DNS  address while the SetIp option is set?
[06:47] <alexserver> calc: thanks for your assistance, you have been so usefull my friend
[06:47] <darius12> would you like recent eclipse packaged for ubuntu? would you be willing to help?
[06:48] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, me?
[06:48] <Zeroedout> yes
[06:48] <actionfigure> yes
[06:48] <actionfigure> those are the names
[06:48] <Zeroedout> did you try apt-get install package?
[06:48] <actionfigure> no i use the synaptic
[06:49] <Zeroedout> and what happened when you tried to install it?
[06:49] <actionfigure> i tried installling the i810 but then x doesnt work at all
[06:49] <actionfigure> i mean it igonres it i think
[06:49] <Zeroedout> did you change the driver in xorg.conf?
[06:49] <actionfigure> when i change the driver to i810 in the conf file..thats why it wont startx
[06:49] <alex_21> Good night. Bani bash
[06:50] <calc> alexserver: you might want to bring it up on the kernel bug tracker also
[06:50] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i noticed that i740 was also installed..i uninstalled it since i didnt think i needed it
[06:50] <Zeroedout> what error does /var/log/Xorg.0.log give you?
[06:50] <actionfigure> let me check
[06:50] <calc> alexserver: if they look at it and fix it then it won't matter if the ubuntu people do or not
[06:52] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i dont know where to start
[06:52] <Zeroedout> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:52] <alexserver> calc: ok, do you know where can i report a kernel bug ?
[06:52] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i did..i mean for errors
[06:53] <calc> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/
[06:53] <Zeroedout> what are the last few lines in the log saying?
[06:53] <calc> alexserver: it seems they like people to just report about mainline kernels so they might not want the bug without you trying an unpatched kernel first
[06:54] <zod21> whats up fellas!!?
[06:54] <Zeroedout> if you need to copy paste, do it to the ubuntu paste
[06:54] <shbika>  rdw200169:thank you for your response. my Skype is now working with pulse without a problem
[06:54] <Everett> Can anyone point me to a resource for assistance with building intltool from trunk?
[06:54] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, just the mouse info
[06:54] <Zeroedout> ......yet X doesn't sart?
[06:54] <rdw200169> shbika: oh, cool, sorry i didn't reply quicker, i got sidetracked
[06:54] <Everett> Just need to know if there are any options needed for the autogen.sh command
[06:54] <iank_> hi
[06:54] <rdw200169> shbika: padsp also works on realplayer
[06:54] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, x starts....blender looks garbled and crashes...all 3d progs do that
[06:55] <iank_> how are you
[06:55] <Zeroedout> anything in dmesg about i810?
[06:55] <alexserver> calc: what is an unpatched kernel ? is that a compiled kernel ? compiled from scratch ?
[06:55] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, ill paste it.....
[06:55] <shbika> rdw200169:ok I will install realplayer and give it a try
[06:56] <calc> alexserver: compiled from scratch downloaded from kernel.org
[06:56] <calc> i'm headed to bed i'm at UDS and have the UbuFlu
[06:56] <bdelin88> is there anyone out there that can help me with converting .bin/.cue to iso... this is miserable and complicated and nothing seems to work
[06:57] <bdelin88> even poweriso for some reason
[06:57] <calc> bdelin88: you can burn them with nero linux iirc
[06:57] <bdelin88> bchunk put it into a bunch of cdr files
[06:57] <bdelin88> calc: haven't tried
[06:57] <calc> bdelin88: bchuck claims to convert
[06:57] <calc> bchunk - CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr
[06:57] <Architect> Hello Ubuntu community!
[06:57] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83369/
[06:57] <calc> cue2toc - converts CUE files to cdrdao's TOC format
[06:57] <calc> cuetools - tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files
[06:57] <bdelin88> calc: it's an audio cd and it puts it into cdr, i don't know how to tell it .iso
[06:58] <alexserver> calc: hahahaha, wow, this sounds as a challenge for a newbie like me !! I haven't compiled yet a kernel
[06:58] <Architect> Does anybody have a solution to my computer displaying a grey screen and doing absolutely nothing upon attempted installation of Ubuntu?
[06:58] <calc> oh for an audio cd the cue2toc might work, not really sure
[06:58] <calc> bdelin88: .iso isn't audio format though so you don't want that afaik
[06:58] <calc> iso refers to iso9660
[06:59] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: hrmm, when blender crashes, does it give you an error?
[06:59] <actionfigure> no
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> Architect: do u have ati drivers ?
[06:59] <Architect> Aye.
[06:59] <calc> ok now i'm off to bed
[06:59] <Zeroedout> not even a segfault?
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> i was having that problem
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> let me tell u
[06:59] <DJ_HaMsTa> pain in the ass to get it working
[06:59] <actionfigure> i open it usning the menu..let me try the terminal
[06:59] <histo> bdelin88, k3b should do it and a host of other burning applications
[07:00] <bdelin88> calc: mounting it is what i want
[07:00] <transporter> i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: i just found k3b and it seems to do it
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: i wonder why it does not support iso
[07:00] <Zeroedout> k3b does support iso
[07:00] <bdelin88> histo: it says "Writing Mode: Auto, DAO, TAO, TOC"?
[07:00] <histo> bdelin88, bchunk will do it also
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, Disk at once, track at once, etc...
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: bchunk is terrible in my experience, it converted it to a crapload of .cdr files instead of an iso
[07:01] <actionfigure> Zeroedout,    Compiled with Python version 2.5.2. Checking for installed Python... got it! Segmentation fault
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: which one is .iso?
[07:01] <transporter>  i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: or nm i see what you are saying, but how do i tell it .sio
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, wlel you have to bchunk image.bin image.cue image.iso
[07:01] <Architect> DJ_HaMsTa: What did you do to fix it?
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: .iso*
[07:01] <bdelin88> histo: i did
[07:01] <histo> bdelin88, hrm.. well in k3b you should be able to export as iso or sometihgn.
[07:02] <Zeroedout> bdelin88: lol, not very helpful, you did remove the old driver and modrpobe i810 right?
[07:02] <alexserver> calc: thanks
[07:02] <transporter>  i would appreciate if somebody could help me with bluetooth file transfers
[07:02] <ardchoille> !repeat | transporter
[07:02] <bdelin88> Zeroedout: that is just computer gibberish to me lol, i have no idea
[07:03] <dnyy> What would be the system requirements to run XP in a virtual machine?
[07:03] <Melik> can i remove qt 4?
[07:03] <Zeroedout> modprobe -r <old driver>                      modprobe i810 (both as root)
[07:03] <powertool08> dnyy: I've done it on my amd athlon xp 2800+ with 1 gb ram and it does ok most of the time
[07:04] <Zeroedout> but if you rebooted the pc after installing the driver through synaptic then it wont make a difference
[07:04] <bdelin88> histo: i am in "burn cd image" and it says i can burn an image to an image... but i can't select to burn to an .iso any ideas?
[07:04] <dnyy> powertool08: err, I've only got 512MB.  I'm startin' to think I'm stuck using CS2 in wine.
[07:04] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, heres my  dmesg   http://paste.ubuntu.com/83374/
[07:04] <bdelin88> i do not have time for all this crap, why is this so difficult on linux :(
[07:04] <bdelin88> windows -> poweriso, done
[07:05] <grendal_prime> so no talking ai/personality type apps (like jarvis in ironman)
[07:05] <powertool08> dnyy: cs2? as in photoshop? GIMP is a pretty good photoshop replacement
[07:05] <bdelin88> linux -> poweriso -> file unsupported, even though it is listed as supported
[07:05] <dnyy> powertool08: Well I'm doing freelance work, and don't have the time (at the moment at least) to try and learn new software.  But I can't install Windows due to broken CD drive. :/
[07:05] <Zeroedout> bdelin88: it could be a problem with the driver, but maybe you don't have the correct one installed
[07:06] <powertool08> dnyy: It does pretty much everything anyone except top professionals would use, just moved some things around with slightly different terminology on stuff
[07:06] <Zeroedout> what is your videocards chipset? you may be able to check with lspci
[07:06] <grendal_prime> thats to bad i had a huge project i have to work on and if i had a computer like  jarvis (the one in ironman) i would sure get it done faster.
[07:06] <bdelin88> Zeroedout: what driver, it's a cdrw drive?
[07:06] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, you got my message? :)
[07:06] <Zeroedout> yea, lol, was talking to actionfigure
[07:06] <powertool08> dnyy: its pretty similar imo so its not hard to pick up if you already have a good grip on photoshop
[07:06] <dnyy> powertool08: Well I'll look into it in my free time.  I've got another computer to use PS on atm, so no rush.
[07:07] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, intel
[07:07] <powertool08> dnyy: also, if you run the most minimal host system possible and dedicate more to the virtual machine it will help
[07:07] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 04)
[07:07] <dnyy> powertool08: The dashed line around the image you're editing always confuses me, makes me think I have the whole image selected. :(
[07:08] <Architect> Is there anyone else here who knows how to install even with ATI drivers?
[07:08] <grendal_prime> my oldes son does albulm cover art with gimp.  He was showing me tonight all these crazy brushes and gradiants he found on the internet.
[07:08] <dnyy> Is there an app for converting photoshop brushes to gimp brushes?
[07:08] <grendal_prime> he had to walk way from the machine because he said he would be up all night if he kept at it. hehehe.
[07:09] <almark> Hello what can I do to get my sound setup properly in Ubuntu 8.10 I did a sound test at the command line, Due to Ubuntu having no alsaconf and I know why it doesn't, I just need to know what to do get my card to work with it.
[07:09] <grendal_prime> dnyy: i think they are the same.
[07:09] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i do see a i810 when i lsmod
[07:09] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: hrmm, it looks lke you're definatly using the right driver....... you did restart your system or atleast modprobe the new driver right?
[07:10] <dnyy> grendal_prime: ah, well looks like i'll be playing with gimp tomorrow. hopefully it'll live up to my hopes. :p
[07:10] <whynot> When I enjoy music with ubuntu alsa, some process affects alsa and the music used to stop and play.  How can I prevent other process from affecting alsa?
[07:10] <rdw200169> whynot: that's why pulseaudio was created...
[07:10] <whynot> pulseaudio?
[07:10] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i didnt have to modprobe since its using the right driver
[07:10] <rdw200169> !pulseaudio > whynot
[07:11] <almark> When I go to the login screen I can hear the drum sound, and the sound test with the static from a term.
[07:11] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but then i install the old i810 driver...i change the driver to i810 in xorg and then it wont start x
[07:11] <grendal_prime> My understanding is that some stuff there is more of, simply because they are opensource and alot of people are contributing.
[07:11] <almark> But that is the only way I can hear sound I have a Audigy Se SB
[07:11] <grendal_prime> dnyy:  sorry that was for you.
[07:11] <grendal_prime> im going to bed.
[07:12] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, are you good at checking these kinda things? if so..i dont mind you sshing my box
[07:12] <grendal_prime> was a long ass day night folks
[07:13] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: i don't think there's much i can do. it seems to be a problem with the driver, does glxinfo give you an error as well?
[07:13] <Everett> Running h804, is there a howto on upgrading gnome and / or Orca to 2.24.x?
[07:14] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83375/
[07:14] <ikonia> Everett: you can't upgrade gnome outside of official ubuntu packages
[07:14] <almark> Am I not asking the right questions?
[07:14] <sparr> linux says my NIC MAC address is invalid, likely due to a known issue with it being read backwards.  Due to this I get assigned a random MAC and an incremented ethXX device number every time I reboot.  Is there some way to avoid that?
[07:14] <ikonia> Everett: (technically you can but everything would break)
[07:15] <ikonia> sparr: get a card thats supported ?
[07:15] <Everett> ikonia: should I be able to upgrade to i810 using apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:15] <vladtsepesh1984> i have a problem....i'm able to sync contact from evolution to ppc with evo2sync msynctool's plugin but i can't sync contact or any other things from ppc to evol....can somebody help me????
[07:15] <sparr> ikonia: its built into my motherboard, and it worked fine for years.  up until about gutsy
[07:15] <ikonia> Everett i810 is not gnome, thats an Xorg driver
[07:16] <ikonia> Everett: and i810 is installed by default, so there is nothing to upgrade to
[07:16] <ikonia> sparr: check the bug report on the card, push it forward if it's been broken for that long
[07:16] <Everett> ikonia: here is my situation.  1. I'm blind 2. I installed hardy 804 using accessible install (which is broken in intrepid).  3. I need to do some testing with Orca 2.24.x
[07:16] <almark> How do I setup sound without alsaconf?
[07:16] <visof> how can i change the screen resolution in ubuntu , my graphics card is nvidia Geforce
[07:16] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: so driver seems to be okay, does glxgears crash?
[07:16] <Everett> ikonia: Orca 2.22.x is what comes in hardy
[07:16] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, no but it looks garbled
[07:17] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: it might be worthwhile to file a bug report with launchpad
[07:17] <ikonia> Everett: well, I don't know about oraca details, but the best thing I can suggest is to log a bug requesting a package update be put into hardy
[07:17] <ikonia> Everett: that would be the most sensible thing to not break anything and get eh package you want
[07:17] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, why do xorg.confg look so small in ubuntu. ...in other distros its huge....
[07:18] <Everett> ikonia: is it worth trying to install orca 2.24 from the intrepid repo?
[07:18] <rww> Everett: no, that's a Bad Idea
[07:18] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, when i upgraded to intrepid it fucked my xorg.conf, but i restored it to an earlier one, it might have to do with the graphical crash thing
[07:18] <Everett> rww: bad like certainly won't work, or might cause problems?  Been struggling with trying to get orca 2.24 on any distro all week.
[07:18] <rww> !ohmy | Zeroedout
[07:19] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83376/
[07:19] <ardchoille> Everett: I would log a bug report. Given that this is a special circumstance (accessibility) it might go through.
[07:19] <Winnipeger> Hi... I want to setup aa fully encrypted triple boot system, fedora 10, Ubuntu Ibex, and Debian Lenny. Setting up just one is easy. But can it be done with three?
[07:19] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thats my entire xorg.conf file
[07:19] <rww> Everett: it's very likely to cause problems
[07:19] <rww> Everett: Intrepid does have 2.24, though, so you could upgrade to it if you don't mind the effort...
[07:19] <jtaji> actionfigure: the latest xorg configures itself quite effectively, xorg.conf is not necessary in most situations anymore
[07:19] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: you mean, where they all share the same encrypted home directory?
[07:20] <Everett> rww: ok, thanks for the heads up.  I'm pretty sure bugs on this have already been logged.  At least on the broken accessible install.
[07:20] <Winnipeger> rdw200169: Yup.
[07:20] <actionfigure> jtaji, im having major problems running blender or wings3d.....
[07:20] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, since nothing else is working, try using a more generic xorg.conf and see what happens
[07:20] <ardchoille> Everett: even if bugs have been logged, there's power in numbers :)
[07:20] <ikonia> Everett: apologiese I lost connection for a moment, only use packages designed for your current release
[07:20] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, where can i get that from?
[07:20] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: i imagine it would be pretty easy b/w lenny and ubuntu, but i don't know about fedora
[07:20] <Everett> I don't suppose there's a vbox image of intrepid out there somewhere?
[07:20] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, what if i downgrade to 8.04
[07:20] <Winnipeger> rdw200169: But if that is too complicated, I would be willing to have a separate data partition that they share and separate homes
[07:21] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, is it interpid thats causing this problem/
[07:21] <rdw200169> Winnipeger: that would be best, it's the standard to have a separate partition for one shared /home
[07:21] <actionfigure> jtaji, so far interpid is not working well with my box....
[07:22] <rdw200169> Everett: why not just install intrepid, thus having an image, in vbox?
[07:22] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: if you've got time to kill, go for it. but if you like, i can pastebin my xorg.conf and you can try that.............
[07:22] <warriorforgod> What would cause a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to not work on hardy?
[07:22] <rdw200169> Everett: you can tell vbox to use the .iso of the install image for a 'cd-rom'
[07:22] <ikonia> warriorforgod: define not work
[07:22] <Everett> rdw: I would love too, but accessible install is broken in intrepid.
[07:22] <Winnipeger> Ok... so then I essentially create three encrypted systems using each installer, create an encrypted data partition once using the first installer. That sounds simplest?
[07:22] <warriorforgod> ikonia: It says no packages to upgrade
[07:23] <ikonia> Everett: as I said, request a package update (log a bug for it explaining your reasons)
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: what do you mean, the kernel doesn't work?
[07:23] <ikonia> warriorforgod: then your up to date
[07:23] <warriorforgod> Wouldn't intrepid be up to date?
[07:23] <Everett> rdw: I'm blind and need to use Orca for install.  I guess it's time to breakdown and try the long and tricky workaround for intrepid with fingers crossed.
[07:23] <ardchoille> !upgrade | warriorforgod
[07:23] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but how will ubuntu know your xorg if its using different driver names and such
[07:23] <Winnipeger> Does Ibex allow the creation of a fully encrypted system that doesn't use all available disk space? I'd need to reserve 14 GB for the other two
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: ohhh, i see
[07:23] <rww> warriorforgod: you don't upgrade to intrepid with dist-upgrade ;)
[07:23] <ikonia> warriorforgod: thats a different distro -
[07:23] <rdw200169> Everett: sorry, i wasn't paying attention
[07:24] <warriorforgod> I understand that.  When I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it doesn't upgrade the system.
[07:24] <ikonia> warriorforgod: you've jusut been told not to use that to upgrade
[07:24] <ardchoille> warriorforgod: that command isn't suppoed to take you to the next release
[07:24] <ikonia> warriorforgod: it's better to read how to upgrade before assuming anything
[07:24] <Everett> rdw: no problem.  I know that an accessible install is possible in intrepid, it just requires a lot of commands to be entered without Orca to get orca up and running.
[07:24] <ikonia> !upgrade > warriorforgod
[07:25] <warriorforgod> I get it now.  My bad.
[07:25] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83381/  I just made the main necessary change, should work fine............. just bakcup your one now, mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[07:26] <StevenX> Where can I find the sources file that tells Ubuntu what repositories to use?
[07:26] <Everett> Thanks for all of your assistance confirming what I figured would be what I have to do.
[07:26] <rww> StevenX: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <ardchoille> StevenX:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <e-frame> i experienced few times about uncomplete upgrade. i did upgrade via console, but the upgrade notification icon was still telling me about available upgrades. i did upgrade via console once again and find nothing. but when i tried to upgrade via synaptic, there were some upgrades available. then i upgraded it there. so was it normal ?
[07:26] <StevenX> ty
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks....ill try that soon...downloading 8.04 first before messing this up
[07:26] <rdw200169> rww: ardchoille, speed test!
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks for all your help though....... :)
[07:26] <ardchoille> hehe
[07:26] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, its greatly appreciated
[07:26] <Everett> Just to confirm, there's no way to upgrade from hardy to intrepid from the terminal?
[07:27] <whynot> What is OSS?
[07:27] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Everett
[07:27] <ardchoille> whyameye: open source software
[07:27] <ardchoille> whynot:  open source software
[07:27] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, don't worry about, if it messes anything up, just mv your old xorg.conf and it'll be back to the way it is
[07:27] <rww> whynot: or Open Sound System
[07:28] <whynot> Thank you.  ESD, OSS, ALSA, PULSEAUDIO.... I'm confused.
[07:28] <rdw200169> whynot: scrap ESD and OSS, they're old and deprecated
[07:28] <natalisushka> Hi, how can I know the kernel version from command line?
[07:28] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, but how to i kill X if when i kill it it pops back up again
[07:28] <e-frame> simple story: upgrade from terminal only upgrades some packages. other packages only available via synaptic. that is the problem i'm asking
[07:28] <rww> Everett: specifically, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended) will work for hardy->intrepid even if you're using a non-server install
[07:28] <ikonia> natalisushka: uname -a
[07:28] <rdw200169> whynot: stick with pulseaudio/alsa
[07:29] <ardchoille> natalisushka: uname -r
[07:29] <rdw200169> whynot: alsa is kinda like hardware-layer, and pulseaudio runs on top of alsa, to provide software mixing
[07:29] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: /etc/init.d/gdm stop (as root, replace with kdm if using kubunutu)
[07:30] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks again :)  will do
[07:30] <Everett> rww: Looks like that uses the gui upgrade tool.  No notes on duing this from the terminal?
[07:30] <rdw200169> whynot: technically, pulseaudio uses alsa to push sound, consequentially, apps that say they use only OSS actually use ALSA, they just don't know it, b/c alsa has OSS-ALSA compatibility
[07:30] <natalisushka> ikonia, ardchoille thanks :) now I have a question concerning the kernels, I want to understand what is the use of leaving previous versions that existed before previous updates, and whether I can remove them or not
[07:30] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, one thing....i dont see your depth line in your xorg
[07:30] <sushiX> i am not able to access my sessions setting any idea
[07:30] <rdw200169> whynot: further, pulseaudio has ESD compatibility
[07:30] <whynot> rdw200169/My computer has low hardware profile, so I hesitate to try pulseaudio, I'm afraid that pulseaudio would make my computer much slower.
[07:30] <ikonia> natalisushka: if you don't want to use them, please remove them
[07:30] <ikonia> natalisushka: thats all they are there fore
[07:30] <ikonia> for
[07:31] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: right at the bottom under "Screen"
[07:31] <ikonia> whynot: not really a an overhead
[07:31] <ardchoille> natalisushka: you can indeed remove old kernels, but it's good practice to keep the current one and the previous one just in case an update causes a problem
[07:31] <rdw200169> whynot: it's possible, but you have to forego the possibility for two apps to push sound at the same time
[07:31] <sluimers> Hello, My mouse and keyboard is not working in the login screen after a crashed upgrade from hardy to ibix, can someone help me with this?
[07:31] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, i mean  the 1024x768 800x600 etc
[07:31] <sluimers> I would like to login
[07:32] <ikonia> sluimers: a failed update is probably better to do a clean install to get to a sane situation
[07:32] <Zeroedout> X should auto-detect it, if not you can add it in manually under screen
[07:32] <rdw200169> whynot: it's more possible though, that if you downgrade your window environment, you will get a much larger performance boost, like xfce, etc...
[07:32] <ikonia> sluimers: it can be quite a long process to work out whats working and not and fix it
[07:32] <rdw200169> whynot: instead of gnome/kde
[07:32] <whynot> ok.  Actually, I'm satisfied the sound quality of alsa.  the only problem is ..while I do some task, that process affects alsa and music.
[07:32] <natalisushka> ardchoille, that's what I guessed, keep the current and previous, so just for me to understand the real use of kernels. Are they basic code of linux that bridge software and hardware?
[07:32] <almark> why is pulseaudio my defualt in alsamixer, and how do i get my soundcard to work with Sound preferences?
[07:33] <ardchoille> natalisushka: basically, yes
[07:33] <skaboy> hey was up
[07:33] <Paddy_EIRE> almark, Because pulseaudio is default
[07:34] <skaboy> i got a question
[07:34] <dbugger> Hello!
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: please ask it
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !pulse | almark
[07:34] <almark> :Paddy_EIRE thanks for the answer, but how do I get alsamixer to work, I can't get sound from my soundcards
[07:34] <skaboy> on ubuntu the virus works???
[07:34] <natalisushka> ardchoille, what is the difference between linux-restricted and linux-headers?
[07:34] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa | almark
[07:34] <skaboy> do i need a antivirus????????????????????????
[07:34] <rhA> ............
[07:34] <ardchoille> natalisushka: That's a but out of my league I'm afraid
[07:34] <whynot> rdw200169/I experienced MS- DOS, if I determined to learn linux command I think I can.  But I'm too lazy to learn unix/linux command.  I'm already accustomed to the GUI environment.
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: ubuntu is not effected by virus's in the same way as windows
[07:34] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks again :)  greatlly appreciate it
[07:34] <ikonia> skaboy: one "?" mark is enough
[07:35] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: did it work?
[07:35] <natalisushka> ardchoille, thanks :)
[07:35] <dbugger> I've been trying for ours to set up a webserver that runs PERL but have no success... either I get a 403 error or i get a Open/save Dialog Box. :( Can someone please help me?
[07:35] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, gone a try soon....burning 8.04 just in case :)
[07:35] <skaboy> but do i need 1 or not?
[07:35] <ikonia> skaboy: not really know
[07:35] <almark> Thank YE
[07:35] <Paddy_EIRE> !virus | skaboy
[07:35] <ardchoille> !antivirus | skaboy
[07:35] <ikonia> skaboy: sorry not really "no"
[07:35] <natalisushka> Anyone knows what is the difference between linux-restricted and linux-headers kernels? And what does server or generic refer to?
[07:35] <Everett> Just confirming that there is no commandline upgrade to intrepid, not nagging, just using a horribly inaccessible IRC client and this room is busy, might have missed the answer.
[07:36] <ikonia> natalisushka: restricted are closed source modules, headers are the kernels headers
[07:36] <gcbirzan> Everett: you can try aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade
[07:36] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: lol, the power in linux rests is being able to fix (especially so if you like the command line) let me know it it worked either way :)
[07:36] <ikonia> natalisushka: server is a kernel designed for enteprise hardware, generic is for desktop/home user kit
[07:36] <skaboy> because there is a video that it says avg antivirus for ubuntu
[07:36] <ikonia> skaboy: I really wouldn't worry about it if I was you
[07:37] <skaboy> but thank you guys
[07:37] <ikonia> skaboy: just use common sense in how you use ubuntu and you'll be fine
[07:37] <Everett> gcbirzan: I tried apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade with no luck.  is hat the same?
[07:37] <whynot> Most of younger generation who are used to window GUI don't know how to input/use command line, and that's one of many reasons they keep using windows, I guess.
[07:37] <natalisushka> ikonia, thanks :) But I need a sort of explaination that will help me determine what to use (when grug gives me options) just in certain case
[07:37] <gcbirzan> Everett: Yeah. You must have intrepid in /etc/apt/sources.list, instead of what distribution you have now.
[07:37] <ardchoille> Everett: apt-get dist-upgrade is not intended to take you to the next release of Ubuntu
[07:37] <ikonia> natalisushka: grub won't give you options, grub will only present what you install
[07:38] <skaboy> oh and how can use the effects
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: kernel-headers and restriced modules are not kernels ether so they won't show up in grub
[07:38] <skaboy> or how can i get more effects?
[07:38] <ikonia> !compiz > skaboy
[07:38] <Zeroedout> whynot: I disagree, i grew up with windows guis and I love linux
[07:38] <Everett> ardchoill: not intended, or wont work?
[07:38] <almark> Paddy_EIRE: alsamixer does work, But I get no sound no matter what I do, But... I hear drums in the Ubuntu login and If I do a tem sound test then I hear static. Please help.
[07:38] <k4rjj> #hamradio
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: if you installed the desktop CD - you will get the generic kernel, if you got the server CD you will get the server kernel
[07:38] <whynot> zeroedout/ I said MOST not all of them.
[07:38] <ikonia> natalisushka: so grub will only present what you installed
[07:39] <ikonia> natalisushka: does that make it clear ?
[07:39] <natalisushka> ikonia, yes some how. But why do I have both genreic and server? I installed ubuntu from Desktop CD
[07:39] <ardchoille> Everett: I've seen it break system more than it helps
[07:39] <Zeroedout> whynot: lol, i attribute it to a lack of interest and seld-esteem, "I want my computer to just work!" "what X is broken, the hell is X? windows didn't have a command line i'm goin back"
[07:40] <Everett> ardchoille: well, I might give it a shout before muddling through a Orcaless install of Intrepid.  Thanks or letting me know that it is a possible option.
[07:40] <ikonia> natalisushka: you've installed the server kernel
[07:41] <redrebel> how do I upgrade my 8.04 ubuntu to 8.10??
[07:41] <ikonia> natalisushka: thats the only reason, I suggest you open synaptic search for the server kernel and remove it
[07:41] <ikonia> !upgrade > redrebel
[07:41] <almark> Paddy_EIRE: Did you get my message way back there?
[07:41] <natalisushka> ikonia, probably when I selected the option LAMP in synaptic ready packages?
[07:41] <redrebel> thanx
[07:41] <ikonia> natalisushka: I don't think lamp is linked to a kernel, so no
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, so when I am using generic (Desktop), server is useless?
[07:42] <sushiX> i am notable to access System > Preferences > Sessions any idea y this could be
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: you can only run one kernel at once
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, I see.
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: if your running the desktop kernel, no other kernel can be run
[07:42] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you remove the server kernel to stop any confusion
[07:42] <natalisushka> ikonia, how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:42] <sluimers> ikonia, I also have trouble booting from cd-rom and usb-stick
[07:42] <ikonia> sluimers: ?
[07:43] <Zeroedout> sushiX:try  "gnome-session-properties" in the terminal and see what errors it spits out
[07:43] <skaboy> the last question sorry but im new on this ! where can i get a tutorial about ubuntu?
[07:43] <ikonia> skaboy: ubuntu.com
[07:43] <ikonia> skaboy: https://help.ubuntu.com too,
[07:43] <sluimers> ikonia, it doesn't seem to recognize the external cd-rom drive
[07:43] <skaboy> ok im out later and thankyou
[07:43] <ardchoille> skaboy: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation
[07:44] <ikonia> sluimers: need to make sure you've got supported hardware, I can't fix unsupported hardware
[07:44] <BigMike> hi all
[07:45] <sushiX> Zeroedout, it says could not connect to the session manager
[07:45] <BigMike> ???? is there a way to deselect all items in the update manager????
[07:46] <shamus> hello
[07:46] <natalisushka> ikonia, how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:46] <natalisushka> Guys how do i restore my menu.lst to it's defaults in terms of what is installed of kernels?
[07:46] <ikonia> natalisushka: when you remove the server kernel, it will be removed from the menu.lst
[07:47] <natalisushka> ikonia, I have edited my menu.lst before, and so it's reduced to a couple of kernels of what I have. I have a back up, but I need to know in case i lost it, or new kernels were installed so i want to have a menu.lst that detects what is already installed and list them
[07:48] <sluimers> ikonia, What do you mean supported hardware, at least a usb-stick should be recognized in the BIOS shouldn't it?
[07:48] <Zeroedout> sushiX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/237872 seems to have the same problem
[07:48] <ikonia> natalisushka: when you install or remove a kernel it will update menu.lst for you - you never have to manually edit it
[07:48] <ikonia> sluimers: don't know, depends on your hardware
[07:49] <Zeroedout> sushiX: one solution was to delete the ~/.kde diretory, but I cna't figure out why that would work. Try it anyway, other wise kill X ctrl alt bkspc and see if it still happens
[07:52] <Platypus-Man> took about 6 months for my first Ubuntu error to appear on the screen (Fork failed), but just bashed the keyboard and tried to install the updates two more times, and then it worked. :D
[07:52] <Platypus-Man> c ya in another 6 months when the next error appears
[07:53] <natalisushka> ikonia, in my menu.lst I have 2.6.27-7-generic, while in synaptic I see that I have 2.6.27-8-generic and 2.6.27-10-generic! If 10 is installed, then why isn't it in menu.lst? And that is my need, in such case, how do I make menu.lst have the default list of all installed kernels? (like doing it manually by some command)
[07:53] <ikonia> natalisushka 2.6.27-9 is current
[07:54] <rice_> hi
[07:54] <ikonia> natalisushka there is only 2.6.27-7 and 2.6.27-9-generic in the repos, you should ignore the server kernels
[07:54] <ikonia> natalisushka: as I said I suggest you remove them
[07:55] <ikonia> natalisushka: it also sounds like you may have the "proposed" repository enabled, I suggest you disalbe that also
[07:55] <ikonia> natalisushka: (if you do have it enabled)
[07:56] <ardchoille> I don't see 2.6.27-10-generic in the Intrepid repos
[07:56] <ikonia> ardchoille: it's not there
[07:56] <natalisushka> ikonia, I can see it it's right there in my synaptic, 2.6.27-10-generic from the main repos
[07:56] <rice_> Is there any official solution for to agressive disk parking on laptops?
[07:56] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, didnt work but thanks for your help again :)
[07:57] <ikonia> natalisushka: your mistaken, or your not using ubuntu as 2.6.27-19 is not in the main repo as a generic kernel
[07:57] <ardchoille> ikonia: could it be that natalisushka has mixed Intrepid and Jaunty repos in the sources.list?
[07:57] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: same error as before?
[07:57] <ikonia> ardchoille: I was just yping that
[07:57] <ardchoille> ikonia: :)
[07:57] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, no..just blank screen :)
[07:57] <sluimers> ikonia, thanks for your help, I think I fixed it :)
[07:57] <natalisushka> ikonia, how can i send you a screenshot?
[07:57] <ikonia> natalisushka: you are either using the proposed repos, or the jauny repos, could you please pastebin your /etc/apt/source.list file
[07:57] <ikonia> !pastebin | natalisushka
[07:57] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: and nothing in xorg log or dmesg about i810 not loading?
[07:57] <dkT> I can't find my audio cd from audacious in 8.10... Any suggestions?
[07:58] <actionfigure> zErOaCid, cant check it if its wont let me get to termainl at all
[07:58] <ikonia> sluimers: I didn't do anything, ou sorted yourself out
[07:58] <nme> anyone knows how to get rid of it? -> CRON[9416]: Sigfile not found
[07:59] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: ctrl alt F1 will drop you to a terminal
[07:59] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, yeah but the screen is black...cant do anything
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, you're right, I have intrepid-proposed
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you disable that
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, why?
[08:00] <Zeroedout> actionfigure: that's very strange, antime i've ever had an error in linux i was always able to do that......... lol, good luck
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: because proposed updates are not stable
[08:00] <ikonia> natalisushka: and you have no need of unstable "proposed" updates
[08:00] <natalisushka> ikonia, i see.
[08:00] <actionfigure> Zeroedout, thanks....just an old system and i usually dont use ubuntu
[08:01] <ardchoille> natalisushka: and the kernel is one thing you do *not* want to break
[08:01] <rice_> Is there any official solution for to agressive disk parking on laptops?
[08:01] <natalisushka> ikonia, ok, anyway, I can't see that I have 9 installed, I must do that manually?
[08:01] <ikonia> rice_: check the bug report - at the moment I don't think so
[08:01] <ardchoille> natalisushka: uname -r
[08:02] <Zeroedout> can't rice just use hdparm and tweak it to his liking?
[08:02] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you remove the others first, fall back to -7, then reboot - once you re-open synaptic you'll find it refreshes the correct data without the proposed update
[08:02] <ikonia> natalisushka: better to clean up befo going forward
[08:02] <ikonia> before
[08:03] <rice_> Zeroedout: hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda stops disk parking but rise temperature of disk (to much).
[08:04] <natalisushka> ardchoille, 2.6.27-7-generic
[08:04] <ikonia> natalisushka: great, your running a sensible version
[08:04] <z987k> what does the ubuntu-standard package do for me?
[08:05] <ardchoille> natalisushka: that's a good one
[08:05] <ikonia> natalisushka: open synaptic and remove (with puprhge) the other kernels
[08:05] <drkn00ck3rz> Do we have something like icon manager for setting the size of various icons and their appearance on ubuntu platform ?
[08:05] <natalisushka> ardchoille, ikonia should I install 9?
[08:05] <ikonia> natalisushka: no - you should remove the others first as I'ave said 3 times
[08:06] <ardchoille> natalisushka: follow what ikonia says, he knows his stuff
[08:06] <natalisushka> ikonia, Ok :) I understood, I meant, after I remove the rest
[08:06] <ikonia> natalisushka: I suggest you reboot then, once youve rebooted synaptic will offer you the updates available to you
[08:06] <ikonia> if 9 is one of them - take it
[08:06] <ikonia> natalisushka: if 9 is not then you have other problems, that the proposed repos have caused that may stop 9 being installed
[08:06] <vladtsepesh1984> i have a problem....i'm able to sync contact from evolution to ppc with evo2sync msynctool's plugin but i can't sync contact or any other things from ppc to evol....can somebody help me????
[08:06] <ikonia> natalisushka: hence why I'm saying clean up and reboot first
[08:07] <natalisushka> ikonia, ardchoille thanks a lot
[08:07] <Zeroedout> rice_: you can try adjusting it even lower and find a balance....... but I don't know if it will work forsure
[08:07] <ardchoille> natalisushka: yw
[08:07] <dannyobrien> hi, so i'm trying to install an external kernel driver. Usually I just had to install the requisitive linux-headers package but now I get  /lib/modules/2.6.28-2-generic/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[08:07] <dannyobrien> where should I point KERNELPATH? What packages do I need
[08:07] <drkn00ck3rz> Do we have any appearance manager, like the display manager in windows, for ubuntu ?
[08:07] <ikonia> dannyobrien: your using the jaunty repo s that is not supported
[08:08] <ardchoille> drkn00ck3rz: Syste, > Preferences > Appearance
[08:08] <ikonia> !jaunty > dannyobrien
[08:08] <Racoon1> Can anybody help me!
[08:09] <drkn00ck3rz> ardchoille: but here you cannot set the icon size, common to all. Can we ?
[08:09] <ikonia> rice_: if you ask a question
[08:09] <ikonia> oops
[08:09] <ikonia> Racoon1: if you ask a question
[08:09] <Zeroedout> liar, irc isn't for questions
[08:09] <Racoon1> I cant hear anything
[08:09] <Racoon1> Im using 64 bit
[08:09] <ardchoille> drkn00ck3rz: I've not seen a place to set icon size in Ubuntu
[08:09] <Racoon1> how can I fix it
[08:09] <natalisushka> ikonia, ardchoille before I go furthur, what is image ... -rt ?
[08:09] <ikonia> natalisushka: real time kernel
[08:09] <ikonia> natalisushka: you don't need/want it
[08:09] <Racoon1> How can I fix my sound
[08:10] <ikonia> natalisushka: use the generic kernel, again as I've said more than once
[08:10] <ikonia> Racoon1: is the volume turned up
[08:10] <natalisushka> ikonia, thanks :)
[08:10] <Racoon1> Yes
[08:10] <dannyobrien> ikonia: okay, i get that, but in the general case -- if something is looking in /lib/modules-*/build for source, where should I be pointing it?
[08:10] <drkn00ck3rz> ardchoille: Any recommended software's
[08:10] <Racoon1> I have a 64 bit USB Headset
[08:10] <Racoon1> 64 Bit processor*
[08:10] <ikonia> dannyobrien: if you get that you'll stop asking
[08:10] <Racoon1> and
[08:10] <ardchoille> drkn00ck3rz: Not that I'm aware of
[08:10] <Racoon1> I saw similiar problems
[08:10] <Racoon1> but I dont understand them
[08:10] <Racoon1> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2008-November/001226.html
[08:10] <ikonia> Racoon1: forget the headet for the moment
[08:10] <drkn00ck3rz> ardchoille: Anyways thanks
[08:11] <ikonia> Racoon1: work with your speakers for a moment to confirm sound is working first
[08:11] <Racoon1> I had sound
[08:11]  * Panarchy says Hi
[08:11] <Racoon1> with my XP
[08:11] <ikonia> Racoon1: no - work with your speakers first
[08:11] <Racoon1> ok.,
[08:11] <ikonia> Racoon1: verify you have sound in ubuntu on your speakers
[08:11] <natalisushka> ikonia, you said clean with puprhge, you meant purge? is the option Mark for Complete Removal is the purge thing?
[08:12] <ikonia> natalisushka: thats correct
[08:12] <ardchoille> natalisushka: yes
[08:12] <Panarchy> What's the command to order packages by size?
[08:12] <soreau> I get 'grub error 15' after installing Intrepid, but when I boot from the live cd and select 'boot from first hard disk', (grub and) ubuntu loads ok. What might be going on?
[08:13] <Racoon1> I seem to have misplaced my speakers
[08:13] <Racoon1> But im 100% sure sound is working
[08:13] <e-frame> soreau: check the menu.lst
[08:13] <Panarchy> What's the command to order packages by size?
[08:13] <Racoon1> I saw the same problem on ubuntu forums
[08:13] <Racoon1> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2008-November/001226.html
[08:14] <ikonia> Racoon1: how are you %100 certain sound is working
[08:15] <soreau> e-frame: Should I replace the uuids with root (hd0,#)?
[08:15] <Racoon1> Well
[08:15] <Panarchy> What's the command to order packages by size?
[08:15] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to uninstall something that i installed without a GPG key?
[08:15] <ikonia> Panarchy: man dpkg
[08:15] <Racoon1> #1. It works with Win. XP
[08:15] <Racoon1> #2. I heared my own voice from my mic via headset but no other sound works like youtube
[08:15] <e-frame> soreau: u can do that also, but make sure to backup the old one
[08:15] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: use apt-get or dpk
[08:16] <soreau> e-frame: Okay ..
[08:16] <nme> anyone knows what is "Sigfile" ?
[08:16] <nme> why cron wants it?
[08:16] <rookeeeeeeeee> ikonia, what????????????????????????????
[08:16] <nme> every cron action places Sigfile not found in /var/log/syslog
[08:16] <angry_squirrel> Hi friends -- new user here, I have a real easy question.  I have a linksys router, and 2 ubuntu boxes behind it.  I already have port 113 open for say box 1 at 192.168.1.100 , can I also open port 113 for box 2 on 192.168.1.101 ?
[08:16] <Panarchy> ikonia: What's the command to order packages by size?
[08:16] <Severian> Panarchy, try ls -S
[08:16] <Ximal> anyone here know how to configure tor properly ? as I cannot by any means use synaptics now that i've gotten this installed ?
[08:16] <almark> Hello again, why can't I hear sound within Ubuntu 8.10, but at the login I hear drums, My volume is turned up as well?
[08:16] <rookeeeeeeeee> sorry ikonia i dont understand you
[08:16] <Panarchy> ikonia: I'd like the command line one and the GUI one
[08:17] <e-frame> soreau: just follow the grub repair tutorial
[08:17] <e-frame> !grub
[08:17] <ikonia> Panarchy: look in the gui for sort functions
[08:17] <soreau> e-frame: Ok, thanks
[08:17] <Racoon1> DId you hear my reasons
[08:17] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: the commands apt-get remove or dpkg will remove packages
[08:17] <Racoon1> I Can hear my own voice
[08:17] <Panarchy> Severian: No, you don't understand, I want to list the programs I've installed by size
[08:17] <Racoon1> but no YOutube videos
[08:17] <Racoon1> or anythimng
[08:17] <ikonia> Racoon1: yes and they are not valid
[08:17] <Racoon1> I have Sound
[08:17] <ikonia> Racoon1: 1.) your not using XP 2.) your mic is not the sound system
[08:18] <Racoon1> I just want my headset working
[08:18] <Racoon1> I saw somebody else with the same problem
[08:18] <Racoon1> SO can you help me
[08:18] <Ximal> angry_squirrel: what are you trying to do by opening port 113 ?
[08:18] <Racoon1> LIke
[08:18] <Racoon1> give me things to try
[08:18] <Severian> Panarchy, no such command.  You can ge close.
[08:18] <rookeeeeeeeee> its telling me invalid operation
[08:18] <ikonia> Ximal: why did you say you can't use synaptic ?
[08:19] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: what command are you using
[08:19] <rookeeeeeeeee> sudo apt-get remove
[08:19] <Racoon1> I will listen
[08:19] <Racoon1> if you can give me things to try
[08:19] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: you need to specify the package nme
[08:19] <FM2nSLEEPn> booyah!
[08:19] <Ximal> because i installed tor ... ikonia ... i get the 501 error about proxy ... i installed tor and privoxy like the community page tells me
[08:19] <rookeeeeeeeee> i did
[08:19] <angry_squirrel> Ximal: its the port that IRC sends ident requests; i want both boxes to respond
[08:19] <rookeeeeeeeee> sudo apt-get remove vidalia
[08:19] <e-frame> soreau: about uuid u can try :vol_id
[08:19] <Panarchy> Severian: Yes, there is a command for it. I remember someone telling me on IRC chat (here) a month or two ago
[08:19] <simplexio> angry_squirrel: i am assuming that you mean portforwading from public ip address, then answer is no.
[08:20] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: dpkg -l | grep -i vadal
[08:20] <ikonia> Ximal: apologies, you can't use synaptic BECAUSE you've installed tor ?
[08:20] <almark> Hello again, I hear sound in Ubuntu login but not in Ubuntu itself, how can I get sound to work within Ubuntu?
[08:20] <Racoon1> Guys
[08:20] <Ximal> i've been unable to update ... that is correct..
[08:20] <Racoon1> I have the SAME problem
[08:21] <ikonia> Racoon1: no you don't
[08:21] <simplexio> angry_squirrel: if you mean opening port between private addresses then yes, but then it isnt port forvarding
[08:21] <ikonia> Racoon1: you said you have no sound
[08:21] <Panarchy> What's the command to order packages by size? (so that the pacakges/installations that have the most MB will be listed at the top of the list)
[08:21] <Ximal> ikonia: let me check it real quick ...
[08:21] <rookeeeeeeeee> that removes that vidalia program?
[08:21] <Ximal> ikonia: i will pastebin..
[08:21] <Racoon1> is anybody going to Help me
[08:21] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: no that tells you the correct name
[08:21] <ikonia> Panarchy: man dpkg and man apt-get
[08:21] <XB23> hey guys ive created a 8gig tarball - if i extract it via ubuntu works great, but ive ftp'd the file to my windows box and it sayin archive is corrupt
[08:21] <rookeeeeeeeee> that did nothing
[08:21] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: then the package is not called what you think it is called
[08:21] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: how did you install it
[08:21] <Panarchy> ikonia: please tell me what command to use
[08:21] <Racoon1> ikonia
[08:22] <krizalid> windows has some issues with handling large files
[08:22] <rookeeeeeeeee> apt-get vidalia
[08:22] <Racoon1> Can u help me get sound working through my headset
[08:22] <ikonia> Panarchy: man apt-get and man dpk will show you the commands
[08:22] <krizalid> you could try splitting the archive
[08:22] <ikonia> Racoon1: you need to validate sound is working outside othe headset
[08:22] <Panarchy> ikonia: What IS THE COMMAND
[08:22] <ikonia> must dash
[08:22] <Racoon1> FIne
[08:22] <Racoon1> brb
[08:22] <ikonia> Panarchy: I've told you the commmand to find out the commands you want
[08:22] <ikonia> Panarchy: and don't use caps, I heard you
[08:22] <Ximal> http://pastebin.ca/1281460 <--- ikonia this is the main error that is keeping me from going on the web with proxy ..
[08:22] <Panarchy> Yes, but please just tell me the command to use
[08:23] <ikonia> Panarchy no - look in the man page for the command
[08:23] <simplexio> Racoon1: check pulseaudio flash support
[08:23] <Panarchy> Yes, but please just tell me the command to use
[08:23] <ikonia> Panarchy: no-one knows it off the top of their head or they would have responded
[08:23] <Panarchy> ok
[08:23] <ikonia> Panarchy: so you can read the man page
[08:23] <krizalid> command for what?
[08:23] <Ximal> i can browse and chat i just can't update etc... and the test page at xenobite tells me i'm not using tor.. or it's not configured properly and i've search all over the forums 3 or 4 pges of post andnone of them have my issue ..
[08:23] <Panarchy> krizalid: To list packages by size
[08:23] <Ximal> ps ikonia . take them i'm good to wait... i got time .. heh
[08:23] <ikonia> Ximal: give me 10 minutes, just need to move positions
[08:24] <Ximal> i'm good to wait m8...
[08:24] <drkn00ck3rz> Have anybody tried pear pc ?
[08:25] <krizalid> Ximal: do you have tor running? sudo /etc/init.d/tor status
[08:25] <Panarchy> awww
[08:26] <Ximal> yes krizalid ..
[08:26] <krizalid> configured firefox to use it?
[08:26] <Ximal> and privoxy and the port is listening
[08:26] <Ximal> 9050 that is..
[08:26] <krizalid> localhost:8118
[08:26] <Panarchy> When doing an fdisk -l, I get 'Cannot open /dev/sda'. Can someone please tell me how to get GRUB back on my computer if I can't even view my hda settings?
[08:27] <krizalid> i think you can skip privoxy
[08:27] <krizalid> just make it use tor
[08:27] <Panarchy> No the problem is
[08:27] <Panarchy> the port number
[08:27] <Panarchy> 9050 only for socks
[08:27] <Racoon1> ikonia: SOUND IS WORKING THROUGH SPEAKERS
[08:27] <Panarchy> WOOT
[08:27] <Ximal> here's the file i used to help me setup tor ...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[08:27] <X4D> hi, has anyone been able to export song ratings from rythmbox to ID3 tags ? I need to move some files and I would like to keep the ratings in the tag instead of the rhythmbox database.
[08:28] <Racoon1> ikonia: SOUND IS WORKING THROUGH SPEAKERS
[08:28] <Panarchy> # Use 127.0.0.1:8118 for all proxies, except SOCKS
[08:28] <simplexio> Panarchy: sudo ?
[08:28] <krizalid> Ximal: are you using torbutton or foxyproxy?
[08:28] <Ximal> ?
[08:28] <bazhang> Racoon1, no need for caps
[08:28] <Ximal> torbutton
[08:28] <Panarchy> simplexio: ???
[08:28] <Panarchy> Oh
[08:28] <Panarchy> fdisk
[08:28] <Panarchy> OK
[08:28] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <Racoon1> did u hear me ikonia: SOUND IS WORKING THROUGH SPEAKERS
[08:28] <krizalid> and the error you get is... ?
[08:28] <Ximal> i didn't install a gui/front end for tor ... didn't know we had one..
[08:28] <Racoon1> ikonia
[08:28] <krizalid> there is no need for a gui
[08:29] <Panarchy> yep, thanks that worked
[08:29] <bazhang> Racoon1, he is not here now, please stop with the caps.
[08:29] <rookeeeeeeeee> ikonia, are you still here?
[08:30] <rookeeeeeeeee> bazhang, how do you uninstall a package that you installed without a key?
[08:31] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, what do you mean without a key
[08:31] <rookeeeeeeeee> PGP
[08:31] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, which package
[08:31] <rookeeeeeeeee> vidalia
[08:31] <maddash> aptitude purge [name of packages]
[08:32] <i845g_problem> has anyone here been able to use ubuntu 8.10 on intel i845 video card?
[08:32] <rookeeeeeeeee> thats going to remove a bunch of packages that i need dude
[08:33] <Panarchy> then keep a record of those packages
[08:33] <Panarchy> and install them as soon as you've removed vidalia
[08:33] <Racoon1> How do u install .tar.gz
[08:33] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get remove tar
[08:33] <Racoon1> And where is ikonia
[08:33] <bazhang> Racoon1, which package
[08:34] <i845g_problem> Racoon1: is that a source?
[08:34] <Racoon1> Its just a .tar.gz file
[08:34] <maddash> Racoon1: you'd have to uninstall each piece manually
[08:34] <Racoon1> compressed file
[08:34] <Racoon1> Install
[08:34] <Racoon1> not uninstall
[08:34] <Racoon1> :S
[08:34] <FloodBot1> Racoon1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:34] <bazhang> Racoon1, what is the package name
[08:34] <bazhang> Racoon1, exact name
[08:34] <i845g_problem> Racoon1: if it contains source code, than extract it, use ".config", than "make", than "sudo make install"
[08:34] <Racoon1> vloopback-1.1.2.tar.gz
[08:35] <Panarchy> before that
[08:35] <Panarchy> make sure you have
[08:35] <Panarchy> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:35] <sammy> Hi all
[08:36] <sammy> I'm a newbie here
[08:36] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone assist me with torK
[08:36] <Panarchy> hi
[08:36] <terryx> hi guys
[08:36] <i845g_problem> anyone having i845g video card?
[08:37] <terryx> how can i connect my sony ericsson 580i in ubuntu
[08:37] <terryx> is there any software for mobiles
[08:37] <terryx> in ubuntu
[08:38] <krizalid> terryx: just plug the usb cable in... it should be recognized
[08:38] <Racoon1> How can i install this tar.gz file
[08:38] <terryx> its recoganized
[08:39] <terryx> but how can i transfer files on that
[08:39] <i845g_problem> terryx: or use bluetooth, if your pc supports it
[08:39] <Panarchy> extract it
[08:39] <Racoon1> how?
[08:39] <Panarchy> then cd to it in terminal
[08:39] <Racoon1> how can I extract it
[08:39] <Panarchy> (right-click extract)
[08:39] <Racoon1> its on my desktop
[08:39] <Racoon1> oh lol
[08:39] <Panarchy> then open terminal
[08:39] <Panarchy> lol
[08:39] <Panarchy> then open terminal
[08:39] <krizalid> terryx: does it show up on the desktop?
[08:39] <Panarchy> and type in;
[08:39] <Panarchy> cd Desktop
[08:39] <Racoon1> k
[08:39] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <Panarchy> cd 'whatever folder you extracted to your desktop'
[08:40] <Panarchy> then
[08:40] <Racoon1> cd desktop doesnt work
[08:40] <terryx> my phone says file manager, phone mode
[08:40] <Panarchy> type in
[08:40] <Racoon1> wait
[08:40] <Panarchy> ./configure
[08:40] <Panarchy> make
[08:40] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <Panarchy> make install
[08:40] <krizalid> Desktop
[08:40] <Racoon1> =-O
[08:40] <terryx> if i select file manager i casn't receive calls or call anyone
[08:40] <Racoon1> u went too fast
[08:40] <Panarchy> Okay?
[08:40] <Racoon1> the words went too fast
[08:40] <Panarchy> lol
[08:40] <terryx> phone mode needs software
[08:40] <Racoon1> cuz of the join/exit
[08:40] <Panarchy> Private chat
[08:40] <Panarchy> No bot
[08:40] <Panarchy> ok
[08:40] <Racoon1> k
[08:40] <FloodBot1> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <krizalid> terryx: I think that is how the phone was built
[08:40] <krizalid> unless you plan to use bluetooth to send the files, this is the only way
[08:41] <terryx> what u mean?
[08:41] <krizalid> do you have a bluetooth connector on your computer?
[08:44] <terryx> is there any mobile software for ubuntu
[08:45] <krizalid> try obextool
[08:45] <shrini> terryx: yes. gammu, wammu, gnokii
[08:45] <terryx> how i install them
[08:45] <shrini> terryx: sudo apt-get install gammu
[08:46] <shrini> terryx: or use synaptic
[08:47] <ashutosh> Hi ashutosh
[08:48] <ashutosh> Hi krzysztof
[08:48] <ashutosh> lol script
[08:48] <ashutosh> Hi krzysztof
[08:48] <ashutosh> Hi schmidtm
[08:48] <ashutosh> Hi bfiller
[08:48] <bazhang> ashutosh, please stop
[08:49] <e-frame> wtf
[08:49] <ashutosh> its a script
[08:49] <bazhang> ashutosh, turn it off
[08:49] <ardchoille> Yay for ignore lists
[08:49] <ashutosh> Hi kb
[08:49] <e-frame> lol
[08:49] <ardchoille> yay for good ops :)
[08:50] <terryx> i have installed gammu
[08:50] <terryx> but where i find it, where to open from
[08:50] <terryx> ?
[08:52] <macjason0607>  whats a good term command to format a drive to dos/ntfs ? mkfs.dos ?
[08:52] <shrini> terryx: installed?
[08:52] <vladtsepesh1984> can't sync wm6 to evol with opensync but only evol to wm6...please help!
[08:52] <terryx> yes
[08:52] <terryx> i mean from synaptic
[08:53] <shrini> terryx: search in menu
[08:53] <shrini> terryx: application
[08:54] <vladtsepesh1984>  i have a problem....i'm able to sync contact from evolution to ppc with evo2sync msynctool's plugin but i can't sync contact or any other things from ppc to evol....can somebody help me????
[08:54] <shrini> citizenofgnu: hi
[08:55] <cQ> my wallpaper not set when i restart.here the script=http://paste.ubuntu.com/83396/.i use fluxbox
[08:55] <cQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83396/
[08:56] <scientes> what device is actually my dvdrw?
[08:56] <scientes> there are so many of them
[08:56] <scientes> im trying to turn on packet writing
[08:56] <bebop_> Hello, i am currently using Xubuntu 8.10 with compiz-fusuin and emerald, but even before i had those installed i was having chopy video issues.
[08:56] <scientes> i keep getting read only filesystem errors
[08:57] <shrini> terryx: got it?
[08:57] <terryx> nop...
[08:57] <terryx> i have entered in terminal
[08:57] <shrini> terryx: what did you install?
[08:57] <terryx> and its shows gammu command
[08:57] <terryx> i type gammu
[08:57] <terryx> and its shows bad way to use this command
[08:57] <bebop_> I am on an HP 510, 1.5Ghz Celeron M, 1GB DDR2 ram, and it seems that xubuntu is overallocating video memory, as i believe the GMA 910 only supports up to 128  and the xorg.0.log is showing 256mb cached
[08:57] <shrini> terryx: install wammu
[08:58] <terryx> do u know how to use this commnd
[08:58] <terryx> wammy
[08:58] <terryx> 28\9mb
[08:58] <shrini> terryx: wammu
[08:58] <bebop_> are there any ideaas as to what could be the issue
[08:58] <terryx> ok
[08:58] <ardchoille> bebop_: ask in #xubuntu
[08:59] <cQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83396/
[08:59] <cQ> how to fix wallpaper not loaded at startup?
[08:59] <bebop_> I have asked about issues in there before and have never gotten a response, figured i would try to ask the more active channel
[09:00] <azfira> dewi
[09:00] <azfira> jamela
[09:00] <azfira> fhhhg
[09:01] <ardchoille> bebop_: Well, I was trying to get you into the channel that is best suited for your environment, xfce
[09:01] <ardchoille> bebop_: you could always post on ubuntu forums
[09:01] <Tm_M> hi kids
[09:01] <zhjawe> Where can I download Geforce2 MX 400 drivers runing on Ubuntu 8.1.
[09:03] <Tm_M> how to determine what dpi some app uses? as there seems to be differences
[09:05] <generalsnus> We have a problem with our thin clients,  It seems like each user has 2 instances of the process "ps" running.. using 2% cpu each.. as you imagine..this is a problem when there is 30 users logged on.. cpu load is at 90-100%  what can i do?
[09:05] <terryx> shrini: what u use for mobile..?
[09:06] <mchelen1> generalsnus, how are clients connecting?
[09:06] <mchelen1> !nvidia | zhjawe
[09:07] <mchelen1> zhjawe, also recommend using envy-ng for that card, use the driver version it suggest
[09:07] <mchelen1> !envy-ng
[09:07] <mchelen1> !envy
[09:07] <zhjawe> Thank you for your help.
[09:08] <zhjawe> My refresh rate is only 50HZ now.
[09:08] <generalsnus> mchelen1: clients authenticates with M$ AD, trough the ltsp server
[09:09] <ddoom> how I do I setup a script to run on boot
[09:09] <mchelen1> zhjawe, it should be possible to increase the refresh rate even without nvidia drivers, but that should work ok too
[09:10] <mchelen1> generalsnus, is it all handled by ltsp? if so maybe ask in #ltsp
[09:10] <Thomas> hi! Can anybody tell me if i need powernowd or if i can disbale it?
[09:10] <Juliada> ddoom: you can add it to autostarted applications
[09:10] <Tch23> Hi all!
[09:11] <ddoom> sorry, on ubuntu server
[09:11] <azfira> dewi
[09:12] <jtaji> ddoom: call it from /etc/rc.local
[09:12] <ddoom> jtaji: ty
[09:12] <Tch23> I got an USB sound card that works well with intrepid...however the sound level is mad... It's impossible to adjust it cause the level goes up/down/left-up/right-down....
[09:13] <Juliada> Tch23: try in terminal alsamixer
[09:14] <Tch23> Juliada I tried dude... It's the same madness here
[09:14] <Tch23> Juliada ALSAMIXER/Gnome Gui and laptop shortcuts give me the same thing
[09:15] <Juliada> Tch23: I see... then look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[09:15] <Thomas> anybody can help me with my powernowd problem?
[09:16] <Osaris> hi
[09:16] <Osaris> anyone good in grep?
[09:16] <Osaris> how do i search for something like this in grep
[09:17] <Osaris> "Dec 09" "piet@gmail.com"
[09:17] <ardchoille> Osaris: grep "piet" /dir
[09:18] <ardchoille> Osaris: grep -r "piet" /dir
[09:18] <X4D> i need to export song ratings from rhythmbox to id3, anyone have any ideas how to do this ?
[09:18] <_ruben> Osaris: nasty approach would to use two greps piped along
[09:18] <Osaris> i tried zgrep *"Dec 09" |zgrep "piet@gmail.com" /var/log/mail.log
[09:19] <ardchoille> Osaris: grep -r "piet" /var/log/mail
[09:20] <ardchoille> Osaris: oops,  grep -r "piet" /var/log
[09:23] <[c0re]> hey i need help with driver.... NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[09:23] <Thomas> Can I disable powernowd??
[09:24] <ardchoille> [c0re]: how did you install that driver?
[09:24] <Juliada> [c0re]: if no permission, type sudo before command
[09:25] <[c0re]> ardchoille, its was fine before upgrade....
[09:26] <[c0re]> ardchoille, i did with automatic driver installer
[09:26] <ardchoille> [c0re]: ok, and hwne are you seeing this error?
[09:26] <Thomas> does no-one know an answer or has nobody read my question?   :-(
[09:26] <generalsnus> We have a problem with our LTSP clients.. each user have x2 instances of the process "ps" its eating all cpu. What could be wrong? pstree: http://paste2.org/p/113585
[09:26] <[c0re]> ardchoille, by typing compiz
[09:28] <Thomas> i have a problem with powernowd
[09:29] <terryx> i have installed wammu
[09:29] <terryx> now i can send files to my phoje
[09:29] <terryx> phone
[09:29] <terryx> but how to send to my pc
[09:30] <terryx> anybody knows how to use wammu
[09:30] <terryx> ?
[09:31] <overrider> hi, id like that gnome-terminal --tab opens a new tab in my current terminal window that i have open. instead, it will open a new window with one tab. i also tried the various --tab-with-profile=Default and stuff, (my profile is just the default one) . How can i open a new tab in my terminal window from the commandline ? thanks
[09:31] <DaNk> how do i copy all files in a directory?
[09:32] <overrider> cp -r * destination/
[09:32] <KILLrothchilds>  
[09:34] <\slash> how can i get a list of apt-get cache applications available?
[09:35] <bebop_> ardchoille: Was it you who told me to go into #xubuntu earlier?
[09:35] <deepthink> Hello. I'm trying to get my backup system (bacula) to run unsion for each user to sync between computers. The problem is that unison has to be run with the permissions of each user. I have tried to create a small script called run_sync for one of my users. It is owned by the user and has the setuid bit set. The privileges don't seem to be changed. Isn't the setuid bit supposed to make the programs in the script believe that they ar
[09:35] <deepthink> e running as the scripts owner?
[09:35] <ardchoille> bebop_: yes
[09:35] <jim_p> \slash, you mean ALL the available packages?
[09:35] <\slash> yeah jim
[09:35] <ardchoille> \slash: you're better off using synaptic as that would be a huge list
[09:35] <\slash> ah
[09:35] <jim_p> \slash, or just the installed ones?
[09:35] <ne2k__> overrider: WOW! I never knew that gnome terminal had tabs!
[09:35] <ne2k__> that is cool
[09:35] <bebop_> Alright, i figured i would tell you since i kinda gave you greif about never getting a response. I think it was a memory allocation issue with the bios
[09:36] <\slash> jim letsay i want to search for an available package with * name
[09:36] <bebop_> i updated t the newest version and ran wall-e 720P flawlessly it seems
[09:36] <jim_p> ne2k__, prepare for a big surprise. nautilus in 8.10 has tabs too!
[09:36] <overrider> ne2k__, dude its soo important. open a new tab by clicking Ctrl+Shift+T
[09:36] <\slash> like just to check whats available with that name.
[09:36] <overrider> otherwise the windows get scattered all over your desktop soon
[09:36] <ardchoille> \slash: apt-cache search package_name_here
[09:36] <ne2k__> overrider: can you move between them with the keyboard
[09:37] <ardchoille> \slash: or to only search the package names: apt-cache search -n package_name
[09:37] <overrider> ne2k__, yesm Ctrl+Page Up or Down
[09:37] <ne2k__> overrider: ah, cool
[09:37] <ne2k__> that is TOO COOL
[09:37] <\slash> ah thanks ard
[09:37] <overrider> ne2k__, now if we can figure out how to make a new tab via just one keystroke, eg, aliasing t to Ctrl+Shift|Tab, then it will be even cooler
[09:38] <overrider> eg t=new tab, q=close current tab
[09:38] <ne2k__> overrider: that would be a little bit stupid, no?
[09:38] <overrider> ne2k__, no, why?
[09:38] <\slash> BitchX isnt available?
[09:38] <ne2k__> overrider: so that every time you press t, it opens a new tab?!
[09:38] <ardchoille> overrider: and if you happen to mistype a "t" while that app is focused?
[09:38] <\slash> only irssi ?
[09:39] <overrider> well it would be e+enter
[09:39] <overrider> and i don't mistype :-)
[09:39] <ardchoille> I find that quite hard to believe
[09:39] <nm_> hi here. Someone know how to establish a vpn with pptp? I doesn't work here :/
[09:39] <overrider> lol you guys. obviosuly not typing a t  = a new tab.
[09:40] <overrider> hell
[09:41] <ocs> hi. i don't remember which is the page for configuring printers... can you write the link? thnks
[09:41] <node357> nm_, I don't know if this helps but check it out; http://tipotheday.com/2008/04/29/connect-to-windows-vpn-server-pptp-with-ubuntu-hardy-heron/
[09:42] <ardchoille> !printer | ocs
[09:42] <ne2k__> nm_: network manager icon->vpn connections->configure vpn->add
[09:42] <cQ> how to amke my disk auto mount?
[09:42] <cQ> make*
[09:42] <ne2k__> nm_: you need to install network-manager-pptp and pptp-linux first
[09:42] <ocs> ardchoille: i just need a link
[09:42] <ocs> nothing else
[09:43] <ardchoille> ocs: done :)
[09:43] <ocs> I don't need explanations on how to install printers
[09:43] <nm_> node357 -> thx, I will read this
[09:43] <huwenfeng> hi all, i got a computer with two disk in ubuntu, how can i find out the io stat for each disk?
[09:43] <ne2k__> ocs: I don't understand what you mean by the "page" for configuring printers and a "link" to it. printers in ubuntu are configured with an application. nobody can give you a link to that
[09:43] <nm_> ne2k__ I know but it doesn't work
[09:44] <ocs> ne2k__: somebody did. and it worked perfectly.
[09:44] <cQ> how to make my partition auto mount??it is ntfs partition
[09:44] <ardchoille> ocs: if you'll look at that first link, you'll see several links for different printers
[09:44] <ocs> ardchoille: this is not what I need
[09:44] <ne2k__> nm_: how far do you get? can you see if ppp and/or pptp is running? how about looking in the debug log?
[09:44] <ocs> I need something like :   http://localhost/somepage
[09:44] <ardchoille> ocs: Oh, I thought you wanted a link about configuring a printer, my bad
[09:45] <Ast001> Hi I just disabled HDA-Intel on my asus motherboard's bios to free interrupt 17,saved that and restart and after boot Ubuntu 8.04 server I see HDA Intel on interrupt 17 again.  Is this asus or ubuntu problem ?
[09:45] <jb-firefoxx> hi all
[09:45] <ne2k__> ocs: what makes you think that you can configure your printers through a local web interface?
[09:45] <ocs> ne2k__: i 've already done that
[09:45] <nm_> ne2k__ : here is my /var/log/message about that :
[09:45] <Tch23> Re désolé oblioigation professionnelle
[09:45] <ne2k__> nm_: PASTEBIN!
[09:45] <nm_> ok
[09:45] <ne2k__> ocs: you've already done what?
[09:46] <Tch23> Damn
[09:46] <ardchoille> !fr | Tch23
[09:46] <ocs> ne2k__: if you don't know or don't understand what I'm talking about, it's unuseful to make observations
[09:46] <Tch23> wrong channel
[09:46] <cQ> how to make my partition auto mount??it is ntfs partition
[09:46] <Tch23> ardchoille I know I forgot the two letters
[09:46] <ne2k__> ocs: well you haven't what makes you think you can configure your printer through a web interface. why would you be able to do that?
[09:46] <ocs> ne2k__: i HAVE IT. i don't remember the url.
[09:47] <ne2k__> ocs: you have what?
[09:47] <ne2k__> ocs: what is IT?!
[09:47] <ocs> ne2k__: ok, you are getting boring
[09:47] <ardchoille> ne2k__: he's saying he has already used a web interface to configure his printer
[09:47] <jb-firefoxx> cQ: edit /etc/fstab
[09:47] <jb-firefoxx> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html#what
[09:48] <nm_> ne2k__ -> http://pastebin.com/d1c9048e7
[09:48] <\slash> !BitchX
[09:48] <ocs> well, just found:  localhost:631/printers
[09:49] <TiNRiB> that's cups
[09:49] <ocs> TiNRiB: that's what i need. a web page for configuring printers
[09:50] <ne2k__> ocs: oh look. a search for "cups web interface" reveals that as the first result
[09:50] <TiNRiB> dont you have X?
[09:50] <ocs> ne2k__: now, you are ridiculous. You don't want to admit  your ignorance about the question
[09:51] <ardchoille> !ot
[09:51] <ocs> anyway, closed discussion for me
[09:51] <BonezAU> Hi, I used sysv-rc-conf to disable some services yesterday and now my wireless will not work. NetworkManager says "Wireless is disabled". I have re-enabled all of the services that I can remember turning off but still can not get wireless to work. Any ideas? Thanks
[09:51] <ne2k__> ocs: I never knew that cups has a web interface. why would it?
[09:51] <ne2k__> ocs: but, I still maintain that your question was crap
[09:51] <click170> How is /etc/resolv.conf maintained?  I recently changed my local DNS server from .24 to .20, but my gateway machine still has .24 in it's resolv.conf on boot.  I've checked the dhcp configurations and /etc/network/interfaces file
[09:51] <ocs> ne2k__: ok, bye bye
[09:52] <VerumAddo> can someone tell me why im getting a 404 error when trying to apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[09:52] <davmonster> click170: I want to know that too
[09:52] <ne2k__> VerumAddo: try apt-get update first. then try checking your repository address
[09:52] <xray7224> hey guys
[09:52] <ardchoille> VerumAddo: possible a problem with the archive server, nothing you can do about it
[09:53] <TiNRiB> are you using a DHCP client?
[09:53] <jburd> I'm trying to run multiple operating systems in VirtualBox on Intrepid.  However, networking doesn't work in the virtual machine.  The network adapter is configured to use NAT on the interface, so I should be able to access anything oustide of the VM, no?
[09:53] <click170> davmonster: I've asked in the Debian channel already, no response
[09:53] <TiNRiB> as opposed to static IP?
[09:53] <jim_p> VerumAddo, are you on 8.04? the package is broken. adobe moved the plugin to another location
[09:53] <click170> I am using DHCP on the external interface, which is to the ISP
[09:53] <davmonster> I'm using a DHCP client also
[09:53] <VerumAddo> jim_p im on 7.10
[09:53] <ne2k__> jburd: what is the status of the virtual interface on the virtual machine? does it claim to have an IP address?
[09:54] <jim_p> VerumAddo, anyway, the package is roughly the same. its flashplugin v9 that adobe moved to another location
[09:54] <TiNRiB> im no pro but doesnt having DHCP grab ip also grab DNS
[09:54] <VerumAddo> jim_p how do i get apt to look in that location ?
[09:54] <jim_p> VerumAddo, i am sure it affects all versions from 8.04 and down
[09:54] <jburd> ne2k__: 10.0.2.15 is the ip address the virtual interface has.
[09:54] <jim_p> VerumAddo, adobe also offers a .deb standalone package
[09:54] <ne2k__> TiNRiB: a decent DHCP client lets you override anything like that
[09:54] <ne2k__> jburd: and where did this come from?
[09:55] <jburd> /sbin/ifconfig
[09:55] <davmonster> I'm using dhcp3
[09:55] <VerumAddo> jim_p not sure how to use those...
[09:55] <jim_p> VerumAddo, and you can alwais install the plugin by hand. i have done so. opera is on flash 10 and ff is on flash 9 for me
[09:55] <deepthink> I have created a script containing only the command "env". It is owned by userA and has the setuid bit set. If executed by userB shouldn't the env reflect userA?
[09:55] <jburd> It's assigned via dhcp on an instance of centos 5.2 @ ne2k__
[09:55] <davmonster> I guess ubuntu 8.10 dhcp3 grabs dns by default
[09:55] <jim_p> VerumAddo, just download the .deb and double click it. instructions will come up
[09:55] <jburd> My local computers are on the 192.168.0.0/24 network. @ ne2k__
[09:56] <TiNRiB> trying going static.. and seeing if it keeps the DNS entry
[09:56] <VerumAddo> jim_p okay will try it thanks
[09:57] <BonezAU> Hi, I used sysv-rc-conf to disable some services yesterday and now my wireless will not work. NetworkManager says "Wireless is disabled". I have re-enabled all of the services that I can remember turning off but still can not get wireless to work. Any ideas? Thanks
[09:57] <Juliada> Hello everyone! I accidentally uninstalled gnome network-manager, and Internet disappeared... I re-installed the system... Is there a way to keep DHCP internet connection without it?
[09:57] <jburd> BonezAU: Have you turned on the switch for your wireless card?
[09:57] <nunocruz> hEllo
[09:57] <davmonster> if you I've edited /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf and removed the 'netbios-name-servers' entry and the 'domain-nane-servers' entries
[09:57] <davmonster> hopefully that will fix
[09:58] <jburd> BonezAU: Also right click on the network manager icon in the notification area and check whether you have "Enable Wireless" checked.
[09:58] <BonezAU> jburd, it does not have a switch, its usb
[09:58] <nunocruz> davmonster in Portugal we use to say that isn it by default but on contrary certainly by Omission ..:0)
[09:58] <nunocruz> ;0)
[09:58] <Wartorn> s
[09:58] <BonezAU> jburd, it's greyed out since I disabled those services, just not sure which one I disabled that broke it
[09:58] <davmonster> nunocruz: :)
[09:59] <nunocruz> I am also using _Ubuntu 8.10 its extremly fast in a 2,5 ram memory laptop with slow integrated intel card
[09:59] <nunocruz> :9
[09:59] <nunocruz> )
[09:59] <jburd> BonezAU: You shouldn't disable services you don't know about :-)
[09:59] <BonezAU> jburd, i know that... there is only one way to learn though :)
[09:59] <TiNRiB> darn right!
[09:59] <jburd> And that is to RTM first!
[10:00] <TiNRiB> do that 2nd
[10:00] <ne2k__> TiNRiB: look at man 5 dhcp-options
[10:00] <TiNRiB> break it first
[10:00] <jburd> ne2k__: What do you think is the problem with the VM?
[10:00] <Juliada> davmonster: was the insfo about /etc/dhcp3/dhcp.conf for me? :)
[10:01] <nikin> hy
[10:01] <VerumAddo> jim_p it appears that adobe has stopped hosting flash 9 and is now solely hosting 10
[10:01] <ne2k__> jburd: and what is the vm's gateway? can you ping the gateway from the vm? (should presumably be the real vm)
[10:01] <VerumAddo> =(
[10:01] <davmonster> for anyone that was experiencing domain-name clobbering on /etc/resolv.conf
[10:01] <ne2k__> jburd: the real machine, I mean
[10:01] <BonezAU> sooo.... can anyone help?
[10:01] <jburd> ne2k__: A few kernel upgrades ago, networking was working without my doing anything on it.
[10:01] <jburd> ne2k__: Nope.  I'm unable to ping 192.168.0.1
[10:01] <\slash> is it just me or does audacious only play local files? network files dont play?
[10:01] <davmonster> domain-name-servers
[10:01] <jburd> Let me check if I'm able to ping the VM's gateway.
[10:02] <ne2k__> jburd: errm, if it's gateway is 192.168.0.1 then something is really very very wrong. that's not on the same subnet
[10:02] <jim_p> VerumAddo, give me a sec to look it up in adobe. i still have 9.0..124 and 9.0...48 on my drive with installers
[10:02] <nunocruz> -if someone is trying a new pre installed vista laptop, also ubuntu to choose what to run , then ask me , because i got experiece on it .. .
[10:02] <rubystallion> When I updated to Intrepid, my keyboard layouts lost their dead keys. Now the accent keys behave as if they were totally unassigned (even if pushed twice or followed by vowel, nothing happens). What's wrong?
[10:02] <ne2k__> jburd: if I were you, I'd get everything working with fixed IP before embarking on DHCP with VMs
[10:02] <nunocruz> also then to how to resize the disks after installation
[10:03] <ne2k__> jburd: have you checked iptables? it might be that something has been added to the default ruleset that is blocking this
[10:03] <jburd> I'll check that too
[10:03] <davmonster> nunocruz: I can't get vista 64 dual-booting with ubuntu, do you have a recommended way?
[10:04] <nunocruz> yes
[10:04] <nikin> i am running an eeepc 900 with ubuntu, and i want to play some gmes in wine.. mainly GT3 and GTA VC .. i managed to install Vice City just fine. But the fps is to low. Wht i am thinking of is either set the detaillevel of the game somehow even lower than it ispossible in the GUI, or get some extra performnce out of the GMA950.
[10:05] <TiNRiB> nikin: dont bother.
[10:05] <dirty> does any know about kde
[10:05] <VerumAddo> jim_p nvm i found it on a 3rd party site
[10:05] <jim_p> VerumAddo, oh ok
[10:05] <davmonster> nunocruz: please elaborate
[10:05] <nikin> TiNRiB: why?
[10:05] <TiNRiB> i have tried to tweak wine for optimal performance for loads of games.
[10:06] <TiNRiB> the FPS just isn't up to scratch
[10:06] <Unknown0BC> Greetings :D
[10:06] <BonezAU> Hi, I used sysv-rc-conf to disable some services yesterday and now my wireless will not work. NetworkManager says "Wireless is disabled". I have re-enabled all of the services that I can remember turning off but still can not get wireless to work. Any ideas? Thanks
[10:06] <TiNRiB> even by going to the latest releases of wine.
[10:06] <jburd> ne2k__: I'm facing the same problem in a Windows VM as well.
[10:06] <Getterac7> my keyboard layout is dvorak, but my login screen still types in qwerty... any suggestions?
[10:06] <nikin> TiNRiB: ok then no wine  tuning.. wht about tuning the game, or tuning the videocard driver?
[10:06] <Unknown0BC> How can I get my Ubuntu system to not ask for a password after it comes out of hibernate ?
[10:06] <sybux> Hi all
[10:07] <TiNRiB> not looked at that...
[10:07] <sybux> I'd like to know how to configure postfix with spamassasin so that all spam message are moved to the "Spam Folder"
[10:07] <TiNRiB> have you tried at all?
[10:07] <ne2k__> jburd: if they were both working before, and have now stopped, I would suggest it is either something with the virtualization software itself, of the host OS
[10:07] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: what is your wireless card ?
[10:07] <Getterac7> unknown0BC: it's because it locks the screen when it hibernates, i believe.
[10:07] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, rt73usb
[10:07] <C0nn0R_> bonezAU: Have you reinenabled the services you disabled ?
[10:07] <Getterac7> unknown0BC: i don't think there is a way to change that.
[10:07] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, not all of them, just anything to do with networking
[10:08] <VerumAddo> jim_p okay i ran the .deb file but i still get the Box saying i need the plugin
[10:08] <Adross> hello, i installed a fedora install in virtual box, and i'm trying to ssh into it from the host ubuntu install. the network type is nat, but the ssh just hangs. I know this may not be the right channel, but we all know that you guys are smarter than #fedora
[10:08] <VerumAddo> jim_p and i have restarted the browser
[10:08] <ne2k__> Unknown0BC: why would you want to do that?
[10:08] <GFree> Getterac7: ahh good ol' GNOME, hiding the options people actually want to see. :)
[10:08] <jim_p> VerumAddo, did the installation pop any errors?
[10:08] <fivetwentysix> I need help with this bug I have, NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0 is displaying my network devices twice... Although I'm not sure if it's a cause to my other problem (random wireless spiking in ping), I'd still like to solve it. I can screen shot it if you don't understand what I mean.
[10:08] <TiNRiB> nikin: i had a GTS8800 640MB playing COD4, halflife 2 under wine 1.0
[10:08] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, is there any way to reset all services back to default?
[10:08] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Have you tried booting in recovery mode and see any errors there ?
[10:08] <davmonster> Adross: type ifconfig in the fedorall install at a console
[10:08] <nunocruz> Put it the instalation CD
[10:08] <TiNRiB> performance was pretty bad with fps around 20
[10:08] <VerumAddo> jim_p only that there was a newer version available via the software repositories
[10:09] <nikin> TiNRiB: i tryed to find some config file in the game.. no luck on that.. for the videocard i have no idea. the only thing that coes in mind i somehow disable features so that the game does not try touse them, like particles
[10:09] <nunocruz> And make a installation in _HArdDISK
[10:09] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, no, but that would probably not help me.
[10:09] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Hmm.. you can try live cd to see if your wireless works then.
[10:09] <jim_p> VerumAddo, :|
[10:09] <davmonster> Adross: does it display an ip address?
[10:09] <nunocruz> yeS live cd
[10:09] <jim_p> VerumAddo, can you remove it? do you know how to?
[10:09] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, the PC dual boots WinXP and it works fine. It's something i've done to the ubuntu install
[10:09] <nunocruz> DAVMONSTER
[10:09] <Adross> davmonster: one moment
[10:09] <TiNRiB> nikin: turning all the effects down does improve it... but then the game looks shabby.
[10:09] <nunocruz> put live cd run on it
[10:09] <nikin> TiNRiB: i had GTA_VC run finron a Geforce8400M :D
[10:09] <nunocruz> instal on hard disk
[10:09] <VerumAddo> jim_p will apt-get remove still work since i installed it with a .deb file ?
[10:09] <TiNRiB> FPS?
[10:10] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Tried "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[10:10] <davmonster> nunocruz: ah ok, thanks
[10:10] <nunocruz> chosse to mantains your other partition it will crete a new one ofr you
[10:10] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, how would that help is multiple "reboot" does not work
[10:10] <Getterac7> anyone know how to change the keyboard layout for the login screen?  i want it to be dvorak.
[10:10] <BonezAU> is = if
[10:10] <jim_p> VerumAddo, yes, but you need to know the name. BEFORE you remove it.... what do you see in about:plugins of ff?
[10:10] <Rugg>  .dpkg -purge xx.deb ??
[10:10] <nikin> TiNRiB: i dont care... :D i like the missions and the driving :D no need for bullet particles :D
[10:10] <Everett> Is there a howto for replacing PulseAudio with Alsa or OSS?
[10:10] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Have you looked at your ifconfig ?
[10:11] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, it shows lo and eth0, no wirelss
[10:11] <Everett> Basically just getting rid of PulseAudio is what we're shooting for here.
[10:11] <TiNRiB> haha yeh sure.. first person shooters.. I meant frames per sec.
[10:11] <C0nn0R_> Its on the motherboard and not through usb right ?
[10:11] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, it's USB
[10:11] <VerumAddo> jim_p i dont see an about plugins option... i see an option for add-ons
[10:11] <C0nn0R_> So it should show eth1.
[10:11] <C0nn0R_> Hmm....
[10:11] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, yes
[10:12] <VerumAddo> jim_p its not in that list however
[10:12] <nikin> TiNRiB: i am the one whotweaked UT to thepoint where there where no textures at all :D
[10:12] <Adross> davmonster: there is no ifconfig in fedora 8
[10:12] <sybux> I'd like to know how to configure postfix with spamassasin so that all spam message are moved to the "Spam Folder"
[10:12] <zaggynl> So I thought ext3 didn't fragment: que, ext3 fragments? http://www2.lut.fi/~ilonen/ext3_fragmentation.html
[10:12] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, I just need to know which damn service it is that has to be enabled to make it work :(
[10:12] <jim_p> VerumAddo, no lol. open a new tab and type                 about:plugins         in the addressbar
[10:12] <davmonster> Adross: try sudo ifconfig
[10:12] <TiNRiB> and you still got ur a$$ caned?
[10:12] <jim_p> VerumAddo, do you see flash in there?
[10:12] <Unknown0BC> ne2k__, like some people who don't work for te FBI and CIA and arent very paranoid don't need passwords. Some prefer to have the system log them in automatically. Dig ?
[10:13] <VerumAddo> jim_p negative
[10:13] <Unknown0BC> Thats why I don't like a screen lock to come up after hibernate.
[10:13] <jim_p> VerumAddo, negative as in "i dont see it there" ?
[10:13] <VerumAddo> jim_p its not listed in the list no
[10:13] <Unknown0BC> If anybody knows how to remove it please let me know :)
[10:13] <ne2k__> Unknown0BC: ;-) I don't know, I'm afraid. I suspect it's possible. I'd just like to be able to get hibernate to work at all, to be honest
[10:13] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: What is the services listed ?
[10:14] <jim_p> VerumAddo, ok. remove the package you installed from adobe
[10:14] <Adross> davmonster: yes, if have an ip address
[10:14] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, you want me to list the services?
[10:14] <jim_p> VerumAddo, let me find 9 and install it manually
[10:14] <Adross> davmonster: which is the one i was trying to ssh into from the host address
[10:14] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, are you on ati?
[10:14] <davmonster> Adross: try sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart from within fedora
[10:14] <Adross> davmonster: *host machine
[10:14] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Yeah anything to do with networking.
[10:15] <VerumAddo> jim_p actually man dont worry about it... its late i will try to get it going tomorrow, thanks for your help
[10:15] <BonezAU> "networking" and something like "wpa_ipc$"
[10:15] <Adross> davmonster: no joy
[10:15] <VerumAddo> jim_p might just end up upgrading to 8.04
[10:15] <Adross> davmonster: didn't work
[10:15] <davmonster> Adross: try pinging the ip address of the fedora vm from within ubuntu
[10:15] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Try enabling both of those services.
[10:15] <Unknown0BC> ne2k__, Those functions in my experience usually gives problems. My suspend won't work. You might want to man pm-hibernate look at the quirks.
[10:15] <StormBlade> how can i change gdm theme while using kde
[10:15] <Adross> davmonster: already tried, no response
[10:16] <jim_p> VerumAddo, well i have the installers. do you want me to upload it somewhere?
[10:16] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: And you may need to reboot to see if that works.
[10:16] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, I have ATI redeon yes.
[10:16] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, I did enable both of them and reboot. Google told me to disable them because networkmanager control sthem
[10:16] <VerumAddo> jim_p nah thats okay thanks tho
[10:16] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, and fglrx installed?? if so, how?
[10:16] <BonezAU> i need someone who has had this happen before to help me
[10:16] <jim_p> VerumAddo, you are welcome
[10:16] <BonezAU> i'm a linux sysadmin so i've tried everything i know about
[10:16] <Adross> davmonster: the guest machine can ssh into the host though
[10:16] <davmonster> Adross: looks like virtual networking interface is down for vmbox
[10:16] <BonezAU> its just a stupid problem that is not documented anywhere
[10:16] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: I have had my Broadcom card act up on me but it was a simple fix.
[10:17] <davmonster> Adross: oh. in that case maybe firewall issue or misconfigured sshd on vm
[10:17] <Adross> i've turned off the firewall
[10:17] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Looked at your network settings in your System menu ?
[10:17] <Adross> where is the firewall config stored?
[10:17] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, yes... shows no wireless adapter
[10:17] <Adross> i might just swap out my ubuntu one into the fedora install
[10:18] <jim_p> Adross, do you use a gui for setting the firewall??
[10:18] <davmonster> Adross: type sudo /etc/init.d/sshd status
[10:18] <C0nn0R_> modprobe -l rt73usb
[10:18] <Adross> jim_p: yes
[10:18] <jim_p> BonezAU, sorry i did not catch the conversation earlies, but what does lspci / lsusb show?
[10:18] <C0nn0R_> See if that does anything.
[10:18] <gregd> hi guys, is it possible to make my ubuntu being a2dp receiver?
[10:19] <Adross> davmonster: it's running
[10:19] <jim_p> Adross, what frontend?
[10:19] <BonezAU> jim_p, it shows the wireless adapter... dmesg also shows it as being registered
[10:19] <gregd> I want to play music wirelessly through my desktop speakers
[10:19] <clusby> Hi, has anyone had problems where kern.log, messages, syslog are huge (2GB)?
[10:19] <jim_p> BonezAU, can you please paste its line here?
[10:19] <clusby> Its all full with "bad: scheduling from the idle thread" messages
[10:19] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, what is fglrx ?
[10:19] <davmonster> Adross: check fedora-specific firewall gui utility for incoming ssh access
[10:19] <BonezAU> jim_p, can't paste it as such since there is no network connectivity to the box :/
[10:19] <C0nn0R_> Driver for ATI cards.
[10:20] <Adross> davmonster: already done, the firewall has since been entirely disabled
[10:20] <BonezAU> it shows up in dmesg as soon as you plug the usb adapter in
[10:20] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, closed source driver for atis, made by ati , VERY problematic
[10:20] <BonezAU> 3 lines of text
[10:20] <jim_p> BonezAU, can you give me a clue at least?
[10:20] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: Did your system work when you hook your computer up to the adaptor ?
[10:20] <jim_p> BonezAU, not dmesg, lsusb!
[10:20] <BonezAU> jim_p, rt73usb: registered
[10:20] <alesan> !vpn
[10:21] <BonezAU> jim_p, hang on
[10:21] <jim_p> BonezAU, so its realtek made
[10:21] <davmonster> Adross: hm.. at a loss to what it might be
[10:21] <davmonster> Adross: try changing vm network adaptor on vmbox if there are other options
[10:21] <NET||abuse> huge problem, my laptop freezes up for 5-10 seconds randomly every now and then..
[10:21] <davmonster> Adross: my vmware for example gives NAT, bridged or host-only
[10:21] <NET||abuse> how can i go about diagnosing this?
[10:22] <alesan> do you have any idea what I have to install to enable the vpn connections? I'd have to login to a CISCO vpn
[10:22] <davmonster> Adross: experiment with the other two if they are available
[10:22] <BonezAU> jim_p, it shows Linksys WUSB54G blah blah [realtek 73usb] or something similar
[10:22] <TiNRiB> davmonster: can you ssh to the VMs whern using NAT?
[10:22] <NET||abuse> i'm on 8.10, dell d630 latitude, compiz etc..
[10:22] <TiNRiB> with firewall down.
[10:22] <jim_p> BonezAU, thanks. give me some time
[10:22] <BonezAU> jim_p, you could have just asked me what chipset it was, i said before it was an rt73usb ;)
[10:22] <NET||abuse> uses nvidia nvs135M gpu card
[10:22] <davmonster> TiNRiB: I can yeah
[10:22] <BonezAU> jim_p, the pc is in a diffent room to where i am so its a bit difficult :)
[10:22] <jim_p> ok lol
[10:22] <TiNRiB> weird: in old vmware workstation 4.x i could
[10:22] <Adross> davmonster: thanks
[10:23] <C0nn0R_> BonezAU: have you tried modprobing the wireless driver ?
[10:23] <C0nn0R_> For your card ?
[10:23] <BonezAU> C0nn0R, thanks for ur help, but you don't seem to understand the issue
[10:23] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, I don't have problems with my graphics. ( not much ) . Is this related to me wanting to remove the lock screen after coming out of hibernate at all ?
[10:23] <davmonster> TiNRiB: I am in vmware ubuntu vm at the moment
[10:23] <davmonster> TiNRiB: but not sure about vbox's networking setup
[10:24] <johannes_> does 32bit software work on an 64 bit OS?
[10:24] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, there is a "service" that takes care of hibernating and stuff. atieventsd is the name. please disable it if you can.
[10:24] <earthling> no johannes
[10:24] <jim_p> BonezAU, modprobing works?
[10:24] <johannes_> is there some kind of 32bit emulator for ubuntu?
[10:24] <jim_p> johannes_, emulator for what?
[10:25] <johannes_> I want to run labview on a 64 bit kubuntu laptop
[10:25] <jim_p> BonezAU, sudo modprobe rt73usb                                if that does not give erros, and the card is seen, then its that !@#$ network manager
[10:25] <BonezAU> jim_p, the module is loaded at boot. modprobing does nothing. there is some form of a service which is not activating at boot which makes networkmanager think that the wireless is disabled. i disabled some services yesterday with sysv-rc-conf and whatever I did, it screwed up the wireless. I don't remember exactly which services i disabled or enabled
[10:25] <johannes_> but there is a 32bit labview version only
[10:26] <jim_p> BonezAU, please remove network manager then
[10:26] <BonezAU> jim_p, i need network manager, its a laptop and i travel a lot
[10:26] <jim_p> johannes_, i think it will run on wine as usual, provided that labview does run on wine!
[10:26] <StevenX> Anyone have a good link on how to boost Ubuntu 8.10 performance?
[10:26] <Sivam> Hi All
[10:26] <jim_p> BonezAU, try wicd! network manager is 110% problem software
[10:27] <johannes_> i meant the 32bit linux version of labview
[10:27] <davmonster> StevenX: in what area?
[10:27] <jim_p> johannes_, sec
[10:27] <Sivam> I wanted to change the keyboard layout of Ubuntu. Please let me know how to change it. do I have to change the key board layout every time I restart the machine ?
[10:27] <earthling> BonezAU : if eth0 shows up in dmesg then its not a problem with network manager
[10:27] <hateball> johannes_❄ you'll need the ia32libs (unsure about spelling) package
[10:27] <BonezAU> jim_p, how am i gonna apt-get it without a connection? :(
[10:28] <StevenX> davmonster, all of them.
[10:28] <BonezAU> earthling, yes that is true. the problem is that i have disabled some kind of service at boot which prevents the wireless from working
[10:28] <davmonster> StevenX: might help to clarify
[10:28] <NET||abuse> rrrr,,, ok, nothing shows up in messages, dmesg has no timestamps so i don't know when anything is arrising.
[10:28] <johannes_> hateball thanks a lot ill have a look
[10:28] <jim_p> BonezAU, wired maybe?
[10:28] <Erant> I've currently got an Ubuntu Hardy Heron install on my system, but I need devfs, is it even remotely possible to downgrade to a devfs kernel?
[10:28] <BonezAU> jim_p, no wired connection available here
[10:28] <jim_p> johannes_, have a look here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=4556
[10:28] <StevenX> davmonster, not sure really. I was looking for something general. I can't specifically point anything out that is running "slow."
[10:28] <Toznoshio> Hi community, how can I generate at the command line pop-outs sticking out of the notification area (like the one that says "Software updates available")
[10:29] <BonezAU> is there any way to reset all services to ubuntu default??
[10:29] <jim_p> BonezAU, i can tell you its dependencies and conflicts!
[10:29] <Omar87> Is this a correct command to play a sound clip backwards? cat ~/my.mp3 rev | /dev/audio
[10:29] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, will disabling that still mean that hibernate will work, but without the screenlock when it comes out of hibernate ?
[10:29] <davmonster> StevenX: if you are looking for performance, try a more minimal windowmanager like blackbox or fluxbox
[10:29] <BonezAU> jim_p, thanks - but no thanks! if I can get NM working then i'll be more than happy to try WICD
[10:29] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, i can assure you about the screen lock, i cant assure you about the hibernate
[10:29] <davmonster> StevenX: I usually find this improves responsiveness noticably on lower range hardware
[10:29] <rascal_is_here> i have made few exe's which works fine in wine , can i pack them into installation package , that can be installed on ubuntu and appears on application menu?
[10:30] <StevenX> davmonster, thanks. I will look into that. I also found a link that might be helpful for a future question like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189192
[10:30] <jim_p> sec people, phonecall
[10:30] <BonezAU> jim_p, np, im gonna go try and enable a few more services and see what happens, bbs
[10:30] <hischild> I'm looking for an IDS (Intrusion Detection System). Any advice?
[10:31] <jim_p> BonezAU, i have to leave. i will go put together some IKEA furniture!
[10:32] <Tch23> Hi again!
[10:32] <Unknown0BC> atieventsd is not intalled on this system jim_p.
[10:33] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, how did you check? in fact, how did you install fglrx, if you did so?
[10:33] <DJ_HaMsTa> so by just going to /usr/sbin/sshd after generating ssh keys, that would start the ssh serveR ?
[10:34] <Tch23> I got two sound cards (internal and USB). I got the USB as default and I got sound... But the sound level is mad! I can't set it, cause it goes up n down. The left becomes independant of the right... I'm puzzled
[10:34] <hischild> DJ_HaMsTa, a bit of the story would be nice. Anyway, this restarts an SSH server. --> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[10:34] <hischild> Tch23, use alsamixer on command line.
[10:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> hischild: just looking at http://www.offensive-security.com/movies/01intro/01intro.html
[10:35] <Tch23> hischild: yeah but it can only be a temporary solution
[10:35] <noxo> hey
[10:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> ty that would also help
[10:36] <Everett> Thanks to everyone for their help earlier.  I was finally able to get Intrepid installed with Orca in Virtualbox.l
[10:36] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, whereis atieventd
[10:36] <noxo> dunno
[10:36] <Unknown0BC> atieventsd
[10:37] <Unknown0BC> *
[10:37] <jim_p> Unknown0BC,  ls /etc/init.d/
[10:38] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, or in these folders
[10:38] <jim_p> /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh
[10:38] <jim_p> /usr/sbin/atieventsd
[10:39] <Unknown0BC> I don't have it on my system jim_p.
[10:39] <jim_p> Unknown0BC, ok then. i dont know what else to sugest
[10:39] <ocs> I have added my_printer through CPUS. i can print documents with common applications (such as editors) but if i try to stat all the printers with lpstat -a i don't see it. and if I try: "lp -h my_printer foo.txt" it doesn't work...
[10:39] <[c0re]> Checking for FBConfig: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[10:39] <[c0re]>  any idea how do i fix it?
[10:41] <davmonster> [c0re]: sudo ls -al /dev/nvidiactl
[10:41] <[c0re]> davmonster, crw-rw---- 1 root 44 195, 255 2008-12-10 16:09 /dev/nvidiactl
[10:41] <Unknown0BC> jim_p, ok :)
[10:42] <[c0re]> davmonster, any idea how to fix it?
[10:42] <davmonster> [c0re]: um.. what is fbconfig running as?
[10:44] <[c0re]> davmonster, what is fbconfig?
[10:44] <[c0re]> davmonster, bash: fbconfig: command not found
[10:44] <davmonster> [c0re]: when does the error occur?
[10:44] <[c0re]> davmonster, when i try to run compiz
[10:46] <davmonster> [c0re]: try this.. sudo chmod a+rx /dev/nvidiactl
[10:47] <davmonster> and then restart compiz
[10:47] <davmonster> bbiab
[10:48] <neriodavid_> did anyone has the problem on Restart? My Ubuntu 8.10 hang on the Restart everytime.
[10:49] <[c0re]> .
[10:49] <hischild> I'm looking for an IDS (Intrusion Detection System). Any advice?
[10:49] <davmonster> [c0re]: did it work?
[10:49] <[c0re]> no
[10:49] <[c0re]> NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[10:49] <[c0re]> still :s
[10:50] <Unknown0BC> paranoia is of the darkness.
[10:50] <davmonster> [c0re]: I think nvidia driver may not be installed properly
[10:51] <DJ_HaMsTa> netstat -anu|grep port   netstat -ant|grep port   <-- what is the diff between anu and ant ?
[10:52] <[c0re]> DJ_HaMsTa, ant = show all
[10:52] <hischild> davmonster, note --> permission denied usually means he forgot to put sudo in front of it.
[10:53] <hischild> DJ_HaMsTa, man netstat and look it up
[10:53] <[c0re]> hischild, do you run compiz by sudo compiz  ?
[10:53] <davmonster> hischild: not sure if compiz should need root
[10:53] <neriodavid_> Guys, restart Froze on blank screen on my desktop. I have search the internet to apply any correction to it. None of them works for me.
[10:54] <hischild> [c0re], davmonster, no. But apparently either the user can't read on that device, the X server is not run as root, or something's seriously screwed up
[10:54] <jjabez> anyone have a link on getting microsoft optical mouse to work on fresh 8.10 install?
[10:55] <davmonster> hischild: hm
[10:56] <[c0re]> i believe its kernel problem
[10:57] <hischild> !away > sleepy_cat
[10:57] <davmonster> [c0re]: nvidia driver is loaded as kernel module usually so not a problem
[10:57] <davmonster> [c0re]: I'd try: sudo lsmod | grep nv
[10:57] <Tch23> Hi! Ok I solved my sound-level problem by selecting ALSA-PCM on front:1... When I move the Gnome SOund level it works... But How can I set my laptop's shorcut to move the level too? Cause my shortcut doesn't modify the level
[10:57] <sleepy_cat> but i didnt write anything here
[10:58] <davmonster> [c0re]: but I'm not very good at troubleshooting graphics drivers
[10:58] <sleepy_cat> ubottu: nope never
[10:59] <StevenX> how do i add more virtual desktops ?
[11:00] <Toznoshio> Tch23, use kmix instead
[11:00] <wariskampar> hello, i want to encrypt a folder in intrepid
[11:01] <wariskampar> what should i do
[11:01] <mikevankuik> Hi i want to start my vnc server at boottime before any user is logging in any idea's on that?
[11:01] <mikevankuik> how to get it done I meen :D
[11:01] <wariskampar> what is the best application to do that i mean
[11:01] <Toznoshio> mikevankuik, use x11vnc
[11:01] <[c0re]> mikevankuik,  add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:02] <erUSUL> !encfs
[11:03] <mikevankuik> [c0re]: do I need to uncomment anything like the #!/bin/sh -e part to make it work? or just put it in there and let it go?
[11:04] <balau_> StevenX, by virtual desktops you mean workspaces?
[11:04] <hischild> mikevankuik, #!/bin/sh is a shebang part of a script. It states what program should be used for that script.
[11:04] <StevenX> balau_, yes.
[11:04] <Tch23> Toznoshio: I just want to "plug" my shortcut the one output setting
[11:05] <balau_> StevenX, right-click on the workspace switcher (bottom right if you haven't moved it) and set the desired number
[11:05] <wiehan> my sound is extremely choppy (it's horrible) in intrepid, it wasn't like that in hardy - please help
[11:05] <balau_> StevenX, from preferences, sorry
[11:06] <StevenX> balau_, Thanks. Worked like a charm.
[11:06] <balau_> glad to help :D
[11:07] <mikevankuik> [c0re]: ? do I need to uncomment the "#!/bin/sh -e" part to get the file executed or does it just run?
[11:07] <saudara> chy
[11:08] <wiehan> my sound is extremely choppy (it's horrible) in intrepid, it wasn't like that in hardy - please help
[11:08] <nik0n> hi, my ubuntu has strange library links that dont work for me for development. librarys are only linked this way: libSM.so.6.0 -> libSM.so.6 and not as it should be a link from libSM.so.6.9 to libSM.so
[11:08] <nik0n> any ideas?
[11:08] <balau> mikevankuik, that comment is special, it is used to know how to execute the file. Leave it commented
[11:08] <wiehan> my sound is extremely choppy (it's horrible) in intrepid, it wasn't like that in hardy - please help
[11:08] <mikevankuik> balau: oke thanx
[11:09] <balau> mikevankuik, long story short, when you execute the file XXX it really executes /bin/sh -e XXX
[11:10] <mikevankuik> balau: ok :) in other words leave it alone :D lol
[11:12] <outlaw1> anybody have experience with ''kino''.?
[11:12] <inertial> i've got an old ubuntu disk lying around.. 7.10.. would the livecd for that be able to mount ntfs?
[11:12] <outlaw1> i have a real simple question
[11:13] <Tch23> I got another question...Using dualHead display, is it possible to move windows from one screen to the other without using xinerama (nvidia stuff)
[11:13] <chfwiggum> inertial: read only
[11:13] <balau> inertial, it should mount them read-only
[11:13] <balau> hivemind
[11:13] <drkn00ck3rz> Can i get information about lynx browser here /
[11:13] <inertial> cheers chfwiggum and balau .. read only is all i need
[11:15] <a1len> When I exit firefox, the page that I had opened last is my homepage the next time I load it... I didn't set it this way. Is there a reason for it? Is something messed up?
[11:16] <nm_> Hi here. I need to establish a vpn with pptp between two linux (desktop ubuntu -> server Debian°. I know this is stupid to use pptp in that cas but I don't have the choice at the moment.
[11:17] <nm_> The problem is, on the server side I have thant in /var/log/messages: EAP: unauthenticated peer name "nm-laptop"
[11:17] <nm_> that*
[11:19] <balau> a1len, if you go Edit -> Preferences -> General -> When Firefox Starts what do you have?
[11:22] <jack_> is there anyway I can get konqueror 3.5 on Ubuntu 8.10
[11:23] <BonezAU> hi, after i rebooted, network manager shows both the wired and wireless connections as being greyed out / not available. when I do an ifconfig it shows eth0 but not eth1 (wireless usb adapter) lsusb shows the wlan adapter but networkmanager refuses to see it.
[11:24] <nachi_> hello all! hey, i want to create a cronjob that downloading my online server's backup (.tar) to my local one.. i have ftp / ssh .. any idea? ... thanks!
[11:24] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, you may have to use ndiswrapper
[11:25] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, never had to before... i have a compatible rt73usb wireless adapter
[11:25] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, it just randomly stopped working
[11:26] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, what happens if you restart eth1?
[11:26] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, ?
[11:26] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, you mean ifdown / ifup eth 1?
[11:26] <Toznoshio> yes
[11:26] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, i've restarted the PC about 8 times today and still can't get a connection
[11:27] <BonezAU> all the options in network manager are greyed out
[11:27] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, try wicd instead f network manager
[11:27] <asfjio> hello, how can i change the apt-get mirror list without GUI?
[11:28] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, I knew you were going to say that... lol. The PC has no connectivity - it's wireless only... do you know if I can download a .deb and install it for wicd?
[11:28] <erki> asfijo: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, let me look around
[11:28] <erki> !sources.list
[11:29] <asfjio> erki: thank you
[11:29] <BonezAU> Toznoshio, I am looking at the wicd home page and it just shows how to add the repos and apt-get it.. i should be able to track down a .deb file hopefully
[11:32] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, look here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=194573
[11:33] <Toznoshio> BonezAU, here is another link: http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wicd/wicd_1.5.6_all.deb
[11:33] <fred12345> Where are the config files for VPN connections in network-manager-gnome stored?
[11:34] <azfira> GIGI TARING
[11:35] <AdvoWork> hi there,im trying to add an entry into /etc/fstab, im doing: //192.168.0.whatever/share /home/whatever cifs exec  this normally works but it keeps asking for a password, there is no password for this share but there is a username. I tried cifs user=myusername exec but it said it was bad, any ideas please?
[11:35] <derto> are there any way to install a base sistem and then install kdebase for example? Because I don't like that ubuntu or kubuntu come with a lot of things that I don't use
[11:36] <catmando> hey all
[11:36] <Toznoshio> AdvoWork, create a credentials file with a blank password
[11:38] <Toznoshio> !samba > Toznoshio
[11:38] <AdvoWork> Toznoshio, im now doing:  cifs,username=operator exec and its saying: mount: unknown filesystem type 'username=operator'  :S
[11:38] <Guest77849> hello
[11:40] <Toznoshio> AdvoWork, look for the keyword credentials at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[11:41] <miguel> hello, good day
[11:41] <Guest49762> Y need do a transmision/reception In GnuRadio at OFDM
[11:41] <Guest49762> somebody can help me
[11:42] <Guest77849> 19 f cali here
[11:42] <inertial> anyone got a link to how vista does the default disk partitioning?
[11:42] <AdvoWork> Toznoshio, i dont get what you mean
[11:42] <inertial> i'm trying to recover a friend's vista disk
[11:42] <asfjio> how can i say to apt-get to install an older version of package for example mplayer 1.5 if it is valid version?
[11:42] <catmando> any developers or maintainers around?
[11:43] <Toznoshio> AdvoWork, store the user ID and password in a separate file
[11:43] <Guest49762> GNURADIO-->OFDM, somebody know who do the transmision/Reception?
[11:43] <ompaul> catmando, ask your question and if anyone can answer they will, if you need to be redirected you will be
[11:44] <catmando> the 8.10 alternate cd never installs a bootloader if you choose any type of lvm setup
[11:46] <catmando> also i'm pretty sure the actual lvm partitioning system itself is borked
[11:46] <catmando> since trying the rescue option shows all partitions as 'not in use'
[11:46] <catmando> and no, you can't just select the grub install option
[11:47] <catmando> that doesn't work either
[11:47] <erki> catmando: Sounds like something that needs to be put in a bug-report!
[11:47] <catmando> erki: oh it's going in one
[11:48] <BonezAU> hi, which service needs to be started at boot to enable USB devices? I disabled some services last night with sysv-rc-conf and now my USB devices wont work :(
[11:48] <catmando> erki: i was just wondering if this is knowns already
[11:48] <catmando> erki: the quality of each ubuntu release gets worse and worse
[11:48] <catmando> it's as if there's no testing at all
[11:49] <maek0> BonezAU, check that dbus is working (I think)
[11:49] <BonezAU> maek0, dbus is working
[11:52] <BonezAU> please help, none of my USB devices are being detected
[11:53] <obi_> i did something very stupid and accidently removed all the icons on my menubar, my network manager, battery indicator, is there a way to get those back because now i cant log on to wirelsss?
[11:53] <maek0> BonezAU, maybe try and look at this link: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-disable-usb-mass-storage-device-usb-drive-in-linux-651262/  just do the opposite to what it says
[11:54] <obi_> or is there a way to just reset my settings to an earlier configuration?
[11:54] <erki> obi_: Right-click menubar, hit "Add applet" and just add the ones you want
[11:54] <inertial> is it possible to mount a vista partition in linux?
[11:55] <bimberi> obi_: not sure about reset.  Notification Area is the applet with NM and battery
[11:55] <hateball> !ntfs | inertial
[11:55] <BonezAU> maek0, it is not only usb storage that won't work, it's also my usb wireless adapter - so I don't think that will have any effect
[11:55] <inertial> the vista disk is showing up as 3 partitions, and the guys in the windows channel are telling me that the vista disks should just have one partition
[11:56] <ikonia> inertial: vista problems are solved in ##windows please
[11:56] <obi_> bimberi: thank you, awesome, im really glad that the problem was im a moron. fixed it.
[11:56] <mee> i have an xchat question
[11:56] <hypnus9> !server
[11:56] <inertial> right.. i just figured some people here might have exp with vista/ubuntu
[11:56] <inertial> i'm trying to fix a friend's laptop
[11:56] <BonezAU> inertial, we do
[11:57] <bimberi> obi_: cool.  (except the too-hard-on-yourself bit about being moron :) )
[11:57] <ikonia> inertial plenty of experience with windows/ubuntu, but your asking how to fix windows
[11:57] <inertial> and it seemed strange that it was showing up 3 partitions when i expected 1
[11:57] <ikonia> inertial: thats a windows issue
[11:57] <DJ_HaMsTa> inertial: thats fine
[11:57] <inertial> i'm just asking how many partitions i should be seeing from linux
[11:57] <BonezAU> inertial, pm me
[11:57] <ikonia> inertial: you'll see how ever many are on the disks
[11:58] <ZeroA4> inertial, windows usually have only one but can have more... it is not wrong or anything
[11:58] <Pretto> obi_, try to remove the .gnome* directory inside your home, but make a backup first... that might help
[11:58] <inertial> it's probably some weird oem thing
[11:58] <ikonia> why would it be an oem thing ?
[11:58] <ikonia> anyway - thats a question for ##windows pelae
[11:58] <ottarw> does anyone knows how to install xfce over debian
[11:58] <ZeroA4> inertial,maybe... some oems create rescue partitions
[11:58] <ottarw> ?
[11:59] <ikonia> ottarw: join #debian please
[11:59] <mee> ikonia why am i getting the error "There was an error loading key bindings configuration" when i type "xchat -d /usr/bin/.xchat-alt"???
[11:59] <ikonia> mee: I've not idea what .xchat-alt is
[11:59] <bimberi> or what it would be doing in /usr/bin !
[11:59] <mee> does anyone know?
[12:00] <BonezAU> i disabled some services, now USB wont work. can anyone tell me which service it is that I need to activate at boot to make usb work? pleeeeeeeeease?
[12:00] <ikonia> BonezAU does lsbu still show a device
[12:00] <ikonia> BonezAU: which services did you stop
[12:00] <ikonia> BonezAU: lsusb sorry
[12:01] <BonezAU> ikonia, yes, but networkmanager wont detect my usb wireless card and if i put a 2gb usb flash stick in it also does not automatically mount. dmesg shows the devices as being connected though
[12:01] <bimberi> mee:  should it be: xchat -d ~/.xchat-alt  ?
[12:01] <BonezAU> ikonia, i don't remember - that is the problem.... !! :(
[12:01] <ikonia> BonezAU sounds like hal and dbus
[12:01] <toehio> hello
[12:01] <Ximal> hey ikonia ... did u get my pounces ?
[12:02] <mee> oohhhhhhhhhhho k
[12:02] <BonezAU> ikonia, both hal and dbus are running at runlevel 5, is there any other run levels they need to be active at?
[12:02] <ikonia> Ximal: sorry no, just got back to my desk
[12:02] <ikonia> BonezAU: thats a problem then
[12:02] <ikonia> BonezAU: ubuntu doesn't use run level 5
[12:02] <ikonia> BonezAU: ubuntu only uses run level 1 and 2 now
[12:02] <Ximal> hold on i'll give u my pastebin again then.
[12:02] <BonezAU> ikonia, which is 'boot to x' is that runlevel 2?
[12:02] <ikonia> Ximal: thanks
[12:02] <Ximal> http://pastebin.ca/1281460 <--
[12:02] <ikonia> BonezAU yes thats run level 2
[12:02] <BonezAU> ikonia, awesome. brb i am going to make some changes and reboot. thanks!
[12:03] <toehio> When I boot it gets up too starting HALD but does not reach vesa. The only thing I changed in my computer is replaced an ATI witha GeForce 9600 GT (which should work). How do I solve this problem?
[12:03] <ZeroA4> BonezAU, did hal asked you "BonezAU what are you doing ?" when you tried to disable it ?
[12:03] <ZeroA4> ;)
[12:03] <ottarw> do you know any chat that soport voice ?
[12:03] <ikonia> Ximal ooh interesting, so are you actually trying to use tor as a http proxy ?
[12:03] <mee> still getting the same error!
[12:03] <ikonia> Ximal: I missunderstood the problem until I saw that
[12:03] <Ximal> not really.. i just installed it period
[12:04] <Ximal> and installed privoxy like the community page here said too.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[12:04] <ikonia> Ximal can you pastebin the output of "env" please
[12:04] <neko> hi people
[12:04] <erki> ottarw: Ekiga and Skype, I guess.
[12:04] <BonezAU> ZeroA4, unfortunately no, he didn't. I wish he did now!
[12:04] <ottarw> ok tnks
[12:04] <BonezAU> ikonia, hal and dbus were running at runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5 but networking was only running at 4 and 5... maybe that is the problem
[12:04] <neko> how do i make files writable for the group at creation ?
[12:05] <ikonia> BonezAU well possibly, but that doesn't explain usb not automounting
[12:05] <ikonia> neko change the umask or setgid on the directory
[12:05] <Ximal> http://pastebin.ca/1281564
[12:05] <Ximal> what would i be looking for in the env output ..
[12:05] <ikonia> Ximal lokinf for proxy info
[12:06] <ikonia> no_proxy=localhost,127.0.0.0/8,*.local
[12:06] <ikonia> I think thats the key
[12:06] <ikonia> Ximal as I understand this config you've just setup, its saying use tor as a proxy for EVERYTHING except 127.0.0.01 or .local domains
[12:06] <neko> ikonia, something like that : umask XXX /some/folder ?
[12:06] <ikonia> Ximal: so when you hit the net over http iot wants to use tor (as it's non local) as a http proxy
[12:07] <ikonia> neko: just umask xxx should do it for the user
[12:07] <Ximal> ok... well i don't understand this if u'd walk me through the fix..
[12:07] <ikonia> Ximal: does that make sese
[12:08] <Ximal> i understand that the ip routing is contradicting if that's what u mean..
[12:08] <ikonia> Ximal: let me work out the fie, your going to have to put a rule in that no_proxy enviornment that says something like " 0.0.0.0 or *.canonical or whatever your synaptic repo address is
[12:08] <Ximal> ahh...
[12:08] <ikonia> Ximal: give me a minute or two to read up how this works, I don't use tor so don't know
[12:08] <ikonia> I'm learning as I go
[12:08] <Ximal> well when i use a test site to test the tor it tells me i'm not using tor in any way
[12:08] <Guest82065> what the fuck
[12:08] <Guest82065> whats this server?
[12:09] <Ximal> umm yeah..
[12:09] <Guest82065> i am bac
[12:09] <Guest82065> k
[12:09] <ikonia> Guest82065: control your language
[12:09] <Guest82065> i can
[12:09] <Guest82065> t
[12:09] <ikonia> Ximal what test site ar eyou hitting ?
[12:09] <Ximal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[12:10] <neko> ikonia, umask don't seem to work
[12:10] <Ximal> torcheck.xenobite.eu
[12:10] <ikonia> Ximal: reading - this is new to me
[12:10] <neko> ikonia, wait i must have mistake
[12:10] <Ximal> k
[12:11] <syanddyl1> nick
[12:11] <neko> the umask equivalent for 664 would be : 113 ?
[12:12] <fermio91> hi all i've a problem with my pendrive... i cannot modify any files inside the stick or create a new one (files inside the stick)...
[12:12] <Ximal> u tried using chmod 777 on tht drive fermio91 ?
[12:12] <ikonia> fermio91 is the file system fat 32 ?
[12:13] <fermio91> Ximal: no, i won't use it, i would use the simple file manager to open it
[12:13] <fermio91> Ximal: as i done before
[12:13] <Ximal> hmm well then it must be something more for ikonia ..
[12:13] <fermio91> ikonia: i don't know
[12:14] <BonezAU> none of my usb devices are working. can anyone help?\
[12:14] <fermio91> ikonia: it worked some days ago...
[12:15] <marks730> why the ssh permitrootlogin is yes when i change my ubuntu password -  sudo passwd root  ??
[12:15] <BonezAU> marks730, root is disabled by default. if you enable it; it also enables shh
[12:15] <BonezAU> marks730, ssh rather
[12:16] <BonezAU> marks730, logging in as root is frowned apon, you should always use sudo where possible
[12:16] <marks730> yes- it's by default - and when i change first time - sudo passwd root - then ssh config make changes..
[12:16] <BonezAU> marks730, yes
[12:17] <BonezAU> none of my usb devices are working. can anyone help?\
[12:18] <fermio91> ikonia: are you free?
[12:18] <Chriger[Ecl]> is what free
[12:19] <marks730> ok i have now root no and denyhosts up  +  my  rsa keys is generated ~4096 bit - it's now strong? ok, i bleive it..
[12:20] <fermio91> ok, i repeat my question: i've a problem with my pendrive... i cannot modify any files inside the stick or create a new one (files inside the stick)...
[12:20] <BonezAU> none of my usb devices are working. can anyone help?\
[12:20] <techouse> hey, i downloaded the svn from madwifi for my atheros wifi on my asus eee701 and compiled it and installed it, now when i start the module (modprobe ath_pci) i get this in dmesg: ath_pci: HAL doesn't support MAC revision 0xe2
[12:20] <techouse> i'm running ubuntu eee 8.04
[12:21] <techouse> i compiled madwifi in order to use aircrack-ng
[12:22] <marks730> question+ it's default ubuntu selinux - is best options? and so - ufw so on up
[12:22] <hypnus9> Hi room. I just rebooted my ubuntu server, and now I can't access it from my client.
[12:22] <hypnus9> Any help?
[12:23] <marks730> i think that is..
[12:23] <AdvoWork> Hi there,im doing: Backup_locationConfigLocal="/192.168.0.27/Backup$" FileName="/home/backup" Worked=0 [[ -e $FileName ]] && { sudo rsync -a -u -z "${FileName[@]}" $Backup_locationConfigLocall; let Worked=1; }  its saying it worked, and /home/backup contains folders, but theres nothing appearing in 192.168.0.27/Backup$  any ideas please?
[12:23] <marks730> ok mary chrismas - from (-unix.planet.ee-)
[12:24] <Paolo88> hi
[12:25] <uberadm> techouse: Try take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy ... it gave me a lot of help with my wireless
[12:26] <sinan> how can i hide panels on one of the workspaces (but not the others) ?
[12:26] <askand> I had some strange nautiluscrashes lately, here is dmesg http://pastebin.com/m281f7ad6
[12:26] <askand> What gives?
[12:27] <Paolo88> i will install ubuntu 64 bit on pc with 4 giga of ddr3 ram. how much must be large swap partition?
[12:28] <Ximal> Paolo88: how much hd space u got ?
[12:28] <Paolo88> ximal: 750 Gb
[12:28] <Ximal> then use as much as u like.. i used 4 gig err 4.5 gigs on my computer..
[12:28] <marks730> 4g swap
[12:29] <marks730> 3-4g swap - no more..
[12:29] <Paolo88> 3 - 4 giga ok swap? is not musch?
[12:29] <Paolo88> *much?
[12:30] <Ximal> no Paolo88... it's bene. err ok
[12:30] <Paolo88> sorry!
[12:31] <ikonia> Ximal: just on the phone, be with your shorlty, still reading
[12:32] <peleg> After my upgrade to 7.10, my emblems in Nutilus became too small. What can I do to enlarge them back?
[12:32] <Ximal> it's ok ikonia.. i'm watching the new resident evil
[12:32] <ikonia> peleg: thats set in your view, just zoom in
[12:32] <SEA> hello :-)
[12:33] <peleg> ikonia, no, the icons of the folders stayed in the same size (I don't want to enlarge them) -- only the emblems became tiny (really tiny)
[12:34] <ikonia> psicobra: emblems ? what do you mean
[12:34] <ikonia> peleg: what do you mean by emblems if not the icons
[12:35] <gnutron> peleg: you should be able to click the +/-% to the left of 'view as whatever' bar.
[12:36] <peleg> ikonia, there's a folder, and you can stick (in Gnome) an emblem on it, such as "Erase", "Art", and so on
[12:36] <gnutron> peleg: intrepid, just curious?
[12:36] <ikonia> Ximal: is tor urrently working for everything
[12:36] <Ximal> nope
[12:36] <ikonia> Ximal: sorry for anything
[12:36] <Ximal> not for anything as far as i can tell
[12:36] <ikonia> Ximal: ok, I'm getting a better picture here
[12:36] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:36] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:36] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:36] <FloodBot1> angeleyes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <ikonia> Ximal: tor does support http, so it look slike tor is not setup correctly to support http
[12:36] <Paolo88> I go out. tanks at all!
[12:37] <neko> ikonia, thanks about the umask stuff
[12:37] <bazhang> !webcam | angeleyes read this
[12:37] <ikonia> neko: no sweat, glad your sorted
[12:37] <neko> ikonia, it seems to work
[12:37] <gnutron> ikonia: your reactor core must be getting mighty warm you need a break :)
[12:37] <DarkKnight> hey wen i try 2 open a file done on photoshop....my GIMP says that it cannot support 16-bit channel PSD files..... any idea how to solve this....
[12:37] <peleg> gnutron, I have no idea where should I press +/- or what is "view as" bar. What is intrepid?
[12:37] <ikonia> gnutron: I am stable
[12:37] <neko> ikonia, i set it definitvly via .profile ?
[12:37] <Ximal> k
[12:37] <ikonia> neko: .bash_profile
[12:37] <gnutron> ikonia: great wotk
[12:38] <neko> it will be okey with creation from any software ?
[12:38] <jonalv> okey so I am very lazy. (don't wanna learn comman line programs if I don't have to) thjere is a graphical user and groups management tool right? What's it's name? How do I start it from commandline when I have done "ssh -X"?
[12:38] <ikonia> neko: should be
[12:38] <ikonia> jonalv: it's launched from the gome menu
[12:38] <gnutron> peleg: in the upper bars, right side of screen, do you see a percentage sign, or 'view as list' or icons
[12:39] <jonalv> ikonia: as in I can not launch from command line?
[12:39] <neko> i maybe need to relog
[12:39] <DarkKnight> hey wen i try 2 open a file done on photoshop....my GIMP says that it cannot support 16-bit channel PSD files..... any idea how to solve this....
[12:39] <ikonia> jonalv: you can but you'll need to use gksudo and nkow the name of ti, but I wouldn't use any critical gui tool like a useradmin one over the internet
[12:39] <jonalv> ikonia: hm good point...
[12:39] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:39] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:39] <ikonia> DarkKnight: check with the gurus in #gimp
[12:39] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:40] <FloodBot1> angeleyes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <bazhang> !webcam > angeleyes
[12:40] <peleg> gnutron, well, just as I told ikonia: This resizes the icons, the the emblems. The icons are just fine: I want to enlarge the emblems, they became so tiny that it's difficult for me to distinguish between them
[12:41] <ikonia> Ximal: does ps -ef | grep -i priv show privoxy running ?
[12:41] <gnutron> peleg: i guess i don't understand what the emblems are.
[12:41] <ikonia> gnutron: I don't either
[12:42] <AdvoWork> im doing: rsync -a -u "/home/backup/" "//192.168.0.27/Backup$" and its giving me the error:  rsync: mkdir "//192.168.0.27/Backup$" failed: No such file or directory (2)  any ideas why? those locations exist..
[12:42] <DarkKnight> ikonia; no gurus on gimp...all are lazy
[12:42] <ikonia> DarkKnight: no, they are just not at their keyboard, wait for a response there
[12:42] <gnutron> peleg: you're talking about the 'places' column?
[12:42] <ikonia> AdvoWork: looks like it doens't exist
[12:42] <AdvoWork> ikonia, what bit doesnt exist?
[12:42] <peleg> gnutron, you can change that column to "Emblems", and add emblems to your icons
[12:43] <ikonia> AdvoWork: looks like the backup dir
[12:43] <ikonia> AdvoWork: don't forget you have to have the absoulte path defined as a "share" for aess
[12:43] <ikonia> access
[12:43] <gnutron> peleg: ok, you taught me, i rarely use nautilus but thanks.
[12:43] <AdvoWork> ikonia, you mean: //192.168.0.27/Backup$ doesnt exist? if i type that in, it takes me to the folder
[12:44] <peleg> ikonia, do you have any idea?
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg: I don't understand what your asking, so no
[12:44] <keystr0k> When listening to music on my external hard drive using Rhythmbox or Banshee (and probably others) the audio stutters every 10-20 seconds. Any ideas?
[12:45] <ikonia> keystr0k: check the hardware buffer on the drive
[12:45] <pumpkin_> i'm on ubuntu 8.10, using gnome: what can i use to replace file-roller? it crashes too much to be usable (yes, i filled bugs. several. other the last 2 years)
[12:45] <peleg> ikonia, look at this picture: http://www.actsofvolition.com/images/screenshots/gnome-emblems.png
[12:45] <peleg> ikonia, or just do F9 in Nautilus, and on the left bar choose Emblems. You can then drag them on an icon
[12:46] <keystr0k> ikonia, is this something I can change?
[12:46] <AdvoWork> ikonia, so if i can get to that share, why else wouldnt it work? :S
[12:46] <peleg> As I said, the icons are of good size, but the emblems, while applied to an icon, are too small.
[12:46] <ikonia> AdvoWork: just looking at your rssync command
[12:46] <ikonia> keystr0k: hdparm
[12:46] <ikonia> peleg: looksl ike the icon graphics have just changed then
[12:46] <keystr0k> ikonia, whoa!
[12:47] <rev667> good morning
[12:47] <peleg> ikonia, I don't think so. These are SVG files, and they are scalable, and they are in my home folder; I don't think that the upgrade had overwritten the graphic files themselves
[12:47] <rev667> i am have some problems
[12:47] <ikonia> peleg no idea
[12:47] <abarai_renji> !webcam
[12:47] <russian> hi, guys. i have some problems with my rdesktop. when i try to connect to my ms server 2008 i get such mestake "ERROR: Failed to extract public key from certificate". my tsclien work fine. Google don't give me answer. Any ideas?
[12:48] <AdvoWork> ikonia,  oki
[12:48] <ikonia> russian what are you connecting from
[12:48] <rev667> tried to re-install ubuntu from 8.10 live cd and the install failed with an i/o error. now i have an unbootable system
[12:48] <russian> from ubuntu :)
[12:48] <peleg> ikonia, thanks.
[12:48] <Chriger[Ecl]> When installing Ubuntu on VM Ware do you just do a normal instal?
[12:48] <ikonia> Chriger[Ecl]: works fine
[12:48] <SlimeyPete> Chriger[Ecl]: yes
[12:48] <Chriger[Ecl]> ty :)
[12:48] <keystr0k> ikonia, Sorry... but how do I determine which drive my external is (/dev/????) It's auto-mounted and not in fstab
[12:49] <Silicium> hi there
[12:49] <ikonia> keystr0k /etc/mtab
[12:49] <russian> ikonia, i have ubuntu 7.10
[12:49] <Silicium> Anyone know how i can Compile mISDN at $ubuntu-version?
[12:49] <Silicium> is a know big problem with this
[12:49] <Silicium> and i cant find any solution
[12:49] <Symbi0nt^D5> can I ban an application from beeing installed or so?
[12:50] <ikonia> Symbi0nt^D5: don't install it
[12:50] <keystr0k> ikonia, thanks :)  readahead 256 (on)
[12:50] <ikonia> Symbi0nt^D5: it's that simple
[12:50] <ikonia> keystr0k: good man ! well done
[12:50] <Symbi0nt^D5> well I am in an office and my employee shall not install it
[12:50] <Symbi0nt^D5> so its not that simple
[12:50] <Symbi0nt^D5> he is not an uberlinuxgeek so
[12:50] <ikonia> Symbi0nt^D5: don't give him permissions to install softare
[12:50] <keystr0k> ikonia, are you mocking me?
[12:50] <Symbi0nt^D5> if there is a cfg file I can use or so it would do the trick
[12:50] <ikonia> keystr0k: no, saying well done for finding it
[12:51] <keystr0k> ikonia, oh! haha.
[12:51] <gnutron> Symbi0nt^D5: remove them from /etc/sudoers
[12:51] <ikonia> Symbi0nt^D5: remove his synaptic permissions from his sudo profile
[12:51] <Symbi0nt^D5> synaptic :>
[12:51] <angeleyes> i want to use my webcam on kopete insntant messanage but the other person cannot see the cam can any one help
[12:51] <Symbi0nt^D5> okay will check that ...
[12:51] <ikonia> angeleyes you've asked many times and ubottu has sent you a link to read
[12:51] <ikonia> angeleyes: have you read that link
[12:52] <gnutron> Symbi0nt^D5: remove them from /etc/sudoers you need to use 'visudo' for that.
[12:52] <Robbie_Crash> How long should it take to tar -cjpf 823GB of data?
[12:52] <ikonia> Robbie_Crash: too many variables to say
[12:52] <angeleyes> i did i did not give me wat i wanted
[12:52] <Robbie_Crash> ikonia mostly movies, music and compressed images
[12:52] <spacey_> Robbie_Crash, depends on your hardware ;)
[12:52] <ikonia> Robbie_Crash: contents doesn't matter, too many variables to say
[12:52] <Symbi0nt^D5> thank you
[12:52] <Robbie_Crash> spacey_ that's not good. Old AMD 3400+
[12:52] <fograven> what is libc development package and where can I get it?
[12:53] <ikonia> fograven:  it's in synaptic and it's the core c library development package
[12:53] <spacey_> Robbie_Crash, its hardly worth compressing compressed/music/images/videos anyway
[12:53] <spacey_> they are already very compact
[12:53] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: thats going to takes hours probably.
[12:53] <ikonia> AdvoWork: strugglging to see a problem with your command
[12:53] <fograven> a lot of stuff came up which do I need?
[12:53] <ikonia> AdvoWork: does the user have write permissions to that share
[12:53] <spacey_> bz2 is particularly slow as well
[12:54] <ikonia> fograven depends what your looking for
[12:54] <djaj10> hi
[12:54] <Toznoshio> Hi community, how can I generate at the command line pop-outs sticking out of the notification area (like the one that says "Software updates available")
[12:54] <outboard> i cant get my web cam to work and i have read all the links everywhere, i give up , it is not that important
[12:54] <ikonia> fograven: not to be mystical, but stuff is broken intro seperate packages
[12:54] <fograven> well I was trying to re install my nvidia driver aagin
[12:54] <ikonia> Toznoshio: gnome event triggers, it's in the gnome-desktop api
[12:54] <Robbie_Crash> gnutron it's already taken 12, and my tarball is only 20GB :(
[12:54] <ikonia> fograven: what is wrong the drivers packages in #ubuntu ?
[12:54] <coz_> hey guys  how can I get pulseaudio to stop running in services? I have use sysv-rc-conf and everything else inslucing uninstalling some pulseaudo stuff
[12:55] <fograven> well my sound has been messed up
[12:55] <ikonia> fograven how is sound related to your video card ?
[12:55] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: probably days. it would  be quicker to scp it all to a remote box
[12:55] <fograven> lol have no clue
[12:56] <ikonia> fograven so why are you re-installing your nvidai dirvers ?
[12:56] <AdvoWork> ikonia, ive changed it around a bit, think its working
[12:56] <keystr0k> ikonia, how does this look? Timing buffered disk reads:   76 MB in  3.01 seconds =  25.26 MB/sec
[12:56] <fograven> I had an image update
[12:56] <ikonia> keystr0k a little lower than I would like, but depends on a lot so not bad
[12:56] <rev667> anyone got an idea about how i can use the live cd to burn another copy?
[12:57] <[c0re]> NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[12:57] <ikonia> rev667: yup, boot the livecd, download another to the desktop, then burn itr
[12:57] <[c0re]> anyidea how to fix it?
[12:57] <fograven> this is the first time I got that alert/warning
[12:57] <rev667> tried that
[12:57] <ikonia> [c0re]: look at the permissions on that device
[12:57] <ikonia> rev667: what's the problem ?
[12:57] <fivetwentysix> rev667: Rip the CD in to a ISO and then burn using that image you created.
[12:57] <rev667> it won't allow me access to the cd
[12:57] <fograven> that libc dev package was missing
[12:57] <fograven> do I need it?
[12:57] <ikonia> fograven why are you re-installing your nvidia drivers to fix the sound/
[12:58] <fivetwentysix> rev667, the cd has to be blank...
[12:58] <[c0re]> ikonia, how do i do it?
[12:58] <fograven> its two different fixes
[12:58] <gnutron> fograven: dev packages shouldnt be needed unless you're compiling stuff
[12:58] <rev667> seems the cd is in use (which is unsuprising considering i'm using the live cd)
[12:58] <jtravnick> Im dualbooting ubuntu 8.4 and windows xp have everything set up only problem when i set the time in one than the time is wrong in the other I know theres something i need to change just cant seam to find it
[12:58] <fograven> cool
[12:58] <Ximal> hey ikonia i'm going to shoot u a pm... cause i need to go afk
[12:58] <ikonia> no problem
[12:59] <Robbie_Crash> gnutron I don't have 800+GB of space on a remote box. Tarring it up over the network is nope too since I'm only on wireless here.
[12:59] <Robbie_Crash> I guess it's not a huge issue, since even non-compressed it doesn't fill up my external, and I only use the external for backups
[12:59] <[c0re]> NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[12:59] <[c0re]> ikonia, how do i do it?
[12:59] <rev667> i can't eject the live cd while running it, which kinda makes sense, but still leaves me with an unbootable system
[12:59] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: depending on the file formats, you may not get much compression. unless the are text files.
[12:59] <AdvoWork> how do you use rsync if you need to put a username, and a host, and a password? ive done the user and hosts like: $username@$host:  but unsure about password?
[13:00] <ikonia> [c0re] look at the permissons on /dev//dev/nvidiactl
[13:00] <Newb`s> [c0re]: cd /dev/ && ls -lh
[13:00] <ikonia> AdvoWork password is tough, I don't think you can pass a password
[13:01] <ikonia> AdvoWork: thought you had to use keys or null password accounts
[13:01] <Robbie_Crash> gnutron Someone in here was saying the other night they knocked about 15GB off of 150 of normal data, movies, mp3s, pictures, etc...
[13:01] <Robbie_Crash> So I figured I'd try... an 80GB savings would be nice, but not if it's going to turn a 7 hour job into a 5 day job
[13:01] <Newb`s> [c0re]: cd /dev/ && ls -lh | grep nvidiactl
[13:01] <AdvoWork> ikonia, ive seen something like password-file=location but unsure
[13:02] <ikonia> AdvoWork you could possible get it to auth against a samba file format ?
[13:02] <Newb`s> [c0re]: and say what is writen before the name of the file
[13:02] <ikonia> AdvoWork: samba password file format I mena
[13:02] <[c0re]> dude
[13:02] <[c0re]> 0 crw-------
[13:03] <AdvoWork> ikonia, how do you do that?
[13:03] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: mp3s are compressed to start with, but those figures may be accurate. to an extent
[13:03] <[c0re]> Newb`s, ikonia 0 crw-------
[13:03] <ikonia> AdvoWork no idea, but as samba is rsync's family I'm making an assumption, not fact
[13:03] <Newb`s> [c0re]: k, wait plz
[13:03] <Robbie_Crash> gnutron still not worth it
[13:04] <Robbie_Crash> no compression is good enough
[13:04] <[c0re]> Newb`s, if i run sudo chmod go+rw /dev/nvidia*... its works but i have to do it every restart
[13:05] <Newb`s> hum
[13:05] <gnutron> AdvoWork: heres my rsync for one directory ifit helps. rsync -avz Music/ linux@192.168.1.101:Music  thats local box to remote box.
[13:05] <ikonia> [c0re]: thats because of udev
[13:05] <[c0re]> ikonia, how do i fix it?
[13:05] <ikonia> [c0re]: change the udev rules
[13:06] <[c0re]> how do i do it?
[13:06] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: i would connect a slave drive or external and copy
[13:06] <AdvoWork> gnutron,  cheers, did that ever need a password?
[13:06] <ikonia> [c0re]: the rules are in /etc/udev.d
[13:07] <kouwe> folks i have a problem, i have a fresh installation of ubuntu 8.10. Only when i put my ATI graphic pci-e card in slot it hangs on boot... Error rc-default 255 .. someone pls
[13:07] <gnutron> AdvoWork: yes, it will ask for the destination user's pass
[13:07] <[c0re]> ikonia, what should i add there?
[13:07] <AdvoWork> gnutron,  i need to automate that.. ive seen --password-file=... but cant see how to use it
[13:07] <ikonia> [c0re]: look at the rules that control that device and change the permissions on it
[13:08] <gnutron> AdvoWork: google rsync, ive seen some good pages on that.
[13:09] <uberadm> I want to tell ubuntu not to look for an eth0 ip addy during startup... what config file do I change?
[13:09] <Robbie_Crash> gnutron it's already going over to an external. I really don't currently *need* the compression, so I'm going to ignore it for now.
[13:10] <ardaking> -it
[13:10] <[c0re]> ikonia, KERNEL=="nvidia*", NAME="%k", GROUP="c0re"
[13:11] <gnutron> Robbie_Crash: by the time you compressed, they could be copied, the problem is available drives/media etc., good luck tho'
[13:13] <gnutron> AdvoWork: http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html   ....this has what you need.
[13:14] <[c0re]> NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied).
[13:15] <gnutron> [c0re]: did you use sudo prefixing the command?
[13:16] <[c0re]> gnutron, no
[13:16] <TuxSympathiser> I think I may have the killer ethernet bug!
[13:16] <[c0re]> Newb`s,
[13:16] <[c0re]> you there?
[13:17] <TuxSympathiser> can somebody please advise me what to do?
[13:17] <Newb`s> No, sorry
[13:17] <neko> hey if i do umask 113
[13:17] <Untamle> Can please anyone tell me, how can I make a sign I will continue editing an article in Wikipedia? I saw people can do this, but I don't know how... Thank you.
[13:17] <neko> i could not create file or folder in new created folder
[13:19] <[c0re]> Newb`s, sorry i didnt see  your pm
[13:19] <asfjio> hello, when i make "apt-get update" i see some "Failed to fetch http://some_url  404 Not Found". what could be the problem?
[13:20] <rrecio> asfjio: which ubuntu version are you using?
[13:20] <gnutron> neko: umask 022 is a good idea, thats octal 644 for files, 755 for dirs.
[13:21] <neko> i need 664 and 775
[13:21] <gnutron> asfjio: try using a different mirror
[13:21] <neko> so it would be 002 ?
[13:22] <TuxSympathiser> my computer is crashing due to the ethernet, I think it may be the killer bug!
[13:22] <rrecio> asfjio: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:22] <gnutron> neko: this explains it well. http://www.tech-faq.com/umask.shtml
[13:23] <kouwe> help... i have a fresh installation of ubuntu 8.10. Only when i put my ATI graphic pci-e card in slot it hangs on boot... Error rc-default 255 .. someone pls
[13:23] <ikonia> kouwe boot into safe mode
[13:23] <kouwe> ok
[13:24] <Nith> Does anyone have any experience with the iomega eGo USB drive working with linux/ubuntu?
[13:24] <kouwe> ikonia: can i change something in safe mode to get this work?
[13:24] <ikonia> kouwe lets se what happens first
[13:24] <neko> gnutron thanks
[13:24] <asfjio> rrecio: i think it is feisty
[13:24] <neko> i think i get it
[13:24] <kouwe> ikona: good idea
[13:25] <rrecio> asfjio: check for feisty apt mirror on the web, and change the urls on /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:26] <rookeeeeeeeee> could anyone tell me how to get kfmclient
[13:26] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee is it in the repo's
[13:27] <gnutron> rookeeeeeeeee: i don't see that in any repo's
[13:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> me neither
[13:27] <thiebaude> rookeeeeeeeee: check online :)
[13:28] <rookeeeeeeeee> i checked online there's nothing but crap telling me to download the konqueror package
[13:28] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee I was just about to say it's in the konqueror package
[13:28] <thiebaude> rookeeeeeeeee: did you enable all your repositories?
[13:29] <rookeeeeeeeee> yes thiebaude
[13:29] <thiebaude> kewl
[13:29] <gnutron> rookeeeeeeeee: it looks to be a very old KDE package, a buggy one at that.
[13:29] <Toznoshio> rookeeeeeeeee, kfmclient is the technical name for konqueror
[13:30] <gnutron> rookeeeeeeeee: konqueror is kinda cool, it does fish:
[13:30] <asfjio> rrecio: i tried two different mirrors and again the same problem. another thing that i see is "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." this message.
[13:30] <rookeeeeeeeee> well im trying to set up torK perhaps this is a bad idea
[13:31] <Toznoshio> asfjio, is it a non-Ubuntu repository that gives you the error?
[13:31] <rrecio> asfjio: the index files failed to download because the mirrors may be broken
[13:31] <Orbur> h
[13:32] <asfjio> Toznoshio: no, i don't think so. i get the mirrors from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[13:33] <gnutron> asfjio: the mirrors may be syncing with new updates also. wait awhile. albeit a nuisance.
[13:33] <Toznoshio> asfjio, pastebin the results of apt-get update
[13:35] <gnutron> asfjio: try a german mirror, they always seem the fastest, even from the USA
[13:37] <ardiem> how much space does ubuntu need
[13:37] <ardiem> ow big should a partition be?
[13:37] <gnutron> ardiem: A full install, maybe 4 gb.
[13:37] <ardiem> okay thank you :)
[13:38] <thiebaude> ardiem: and aslo how much room for ubuntu do you want
[13:38] <ardiem> and swap?
[13:39] <thiebaude> ardiem: i think swap is automatically set unless you decide to change the size of it
[13:39] <aar> Hi, I'm interested in researching Internet traffic volume (e.g. generating a graph with the most active .edu domains). What tools could I use for  this?
[13:39] <gnutron> ardiem: rule of thumb 1.5 times the physical system ram = swap
[13:39] <ardiem> thank you
[13:40] <asfjio> Toznoshio: http://pastebin.com/d652a4dce i replaced "http://" with "http_", because there was some problems with submiting it with http://
[13:41] <esenoy> hi! I'm looking for help wit rt61 module under intrepid, I cant unload the module.... any help?
[13:41] <Toznoshio> asfjio, bingo
[13:42] <Toznoshio> asfjio, Feisty s no longer supported
[13:42] <gaelfx> how do you force architecture in dpkg?
[13:42] <asfjio> Toznoshio: waht can i do?
[13:42] <gnutron> asfjio: atleast don't use http_mirror.beyondi.org
[13:43] <Toznoshio> asfjio, upgrade you Ubuntu or do a fresh install
[13:43] <gnutron> asfjio: comment it out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:44] <ardchoille> gaelfx: What are you trying to do?
[13:44] <esenoy> hi! I'm looking for help wit rt61 module under intrepid, I cant unload the module.... any help?
[13:44] <gaelfx> I'm trying to install a 32-bit deb package of QQ on 64-bit
[13:44] <asfjio> Toznoshio: do you think if i update the whole distro it could have major problems with all applications and the graphical environment (gnome)?
[13:44] <gnutron> asfjio: in sources.list insert a pound sign as such  #http_mirror.beyondi.org
[13:45] <mchelen1> how can i mount a drive encrypted with the installation option
[13:45] <asfjio> gnutron: to comment all mirrors?
[13:46] <gnutron> asfjio: you must upgrade distro incremenally, one at a time. yes comment out all http_mirror.beyondi.org entries
[13:46] <Toznoshio> asfjio, you never know for sure, things can and do go bad sometimes, that's why I suggest you do a backup
[13:46] <aar> Hi, I'm interested in researching Internet traffic volume (e.g. generating a graph with the most active .edu domains). What tools could I use for this?
[13:46] <jclbrt> so i just installed 8.10 to my macbook pro. How can I enable right click, it used to work in 8.08 but now it doesnt
[13:46] <gaelfx> nevermind, figured it out --force-architecture -i
[13:47] <asfjio> Toznoshio: to backup what exactly? my home dir?
[13:47] <Toznoshio> aar, use iftop
[13:47] <jclbrt> i use to be able to put two fingers on the pad and click for right click
[13:47] <davmonster> aar: google 'netcraft'
[13:47] <esenoy> AAR: try wireshark
[13:48] <aar> Toznoshio, davmonster, esenoy : Thanks
[13:48] <Toznoshio> asfjio, I would back up my home directory, do a fresh install, then selectively restore stuff I need, but that's me
[13:49] <asfjio> gnutron: when i comment all mirrors and then make apt-get update nothing happened
[13:49] <quizme> hi, does anybody use ec2 here ?
[13:50] <esenoy> I can't unload a module from the kernel... Console says: "ERROR: Module rt61 is in use"
[13:50] <asfjio> Toznoshio: ok, where can i read about how can i upgrade the whole distro, because i don't know how? i will try to upgrade instead of fresh install.
[13:50] <esenoy> but I placed the module in the blacklist!
[13:51] <esenoy> I can't unload a module from the kernel... Console says: "ERROR: Module rt61 is in use" but I placed the module in the blacklist!
[13:52] <gnutron> asfjio: you need to add a legitimate update mirror besides security. your using feisty right?
[13:52] <thiebaude> asfjio:which version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:52] <asfjio> gnutron: yes
[13:52] <Toznoshio> asfjio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[13:53] <kebomix> Free Programming e-books With Direct Links & Request ebooks Here : http://request-ebooks.blogspot.com/
[13:54] <gnutron> asfjio: one sec, since its reached end  of life may not be easy
[13:54] <asfjio> Toznoshio: so Gutsy is the last code name of ubuntu, right? i will try to upgrade.
[13:54] <jtravnick> how do I get both ubuntu and windows to show the right time?
[13:55] <Toznoshio> asfjio, no Gutsy immediately follows Fiesty
[13:55] <skylarS> what is our dreamweaver equivalent?
[13:55] <Toznoshio> asfjio, the most recent one is Intrepid Ibex
[13:55] <zaky> gvfg
[13:55] <Toznoshio> !intrepid | asfjio
[13:55] <gnutron> asfjio: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[13:55] <zaky> mnhugtygjik,o0i7t67bnjkki09u76dex
[13:56] <gnutron> asfjio: insert that line
[13:56] <zaky> ij78y65dzq2r68hvedszsevb;l
[13:56] <quizme> i just installed ubuntu, what's the first thing i should do to get things to work properly ?
[13:56] <zaky> ]b['/lkhblingybikolokngb
[13:56] <asfjio> Toznoshio: so i need to pass through Gustsy to reach the recent
[13:56] <Scix> is this the right channel for pxelinux questions?
[13:56] <Toznoshio> asfjio, yes
[13:56] <gnutron> asfjio: then apt-get update and see what happens, then apt-get upgrade
[13:56] <Toznoshio> !gutsy | asfjio
[13:57] <jclbrt> what is HAL
[13:57] <jclbrt> ?
[13:57] <gnutron> jclbrt: hardware abstraction layer
[13:57] <Scix> is there a way to boot a CD ISO from a PXELinux boot menu?
[13:57] <jclbrt> oh
[13:57] <jclbrt> ok
[13:58] <jclbrt> i jst created a new fdi policy in /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[13:58] <jclbrt> how do i restart hal
[13:58] <esenoy> skylarS: try kompozer
[13:58] <jclbrt> without rebooting my computer
[13:58] <asfjio> Toznoshio, gnutron and ALL other thank you for the patient and the help. i will tell you if i succeed
[13:58] <gnutron> asfjio: if the feisty upgrade works, then dist-upgrade to the next distro and so on.
[13:58] <jclbrt> would sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart work?
[14:00] <gnutron> jclbrt: it might, normally hal does its deeds on bootup
[14:00] <jclbrt> ah ok
[14:00] <jclbrt> brb then... i was hoping to not have to boot the machine
[14:00] <jclbrt> it's a touchpad tweak i did
[14:01] <gnutron> jclbrt: that could do it
[14:01] <jclbrt> so maybe i need to reboot x too
[14:01] <gnutron> jclbrt: i would
[14:01] <J_HaMpSta> so!, im connecting remotely via VNC to my ubuntu server, but when i move/open windows within either the VNC srver or localy, they do not syncronize, im thinking because they are under different x windows, is this normal ? is my belief correct, please be kind enough to answer.
[14:02] <devlogic> I'm getting 404s on multiple canonical feisty repos this morning.  Have I missed an outage or security announcement somewhere?
[14:02] <gnutron> J_HaMpSta: thats probably a logical assumption
[14:03] <daxroc> Hello
[14:03] <jclbrt> yay it worked gnutron just by restarting x
[14:03] <jtravnick> how do i get ubuntu and windows xp to show the correct time? if i fix it in one than the time is off in the other
[14:03] <jclbrt> i didnt have to do a whole cold reboot
[14:03] <gnutron> jclbrt: excellent
[14:03] <jclbrt> just sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart then ctrl+alt+delete
[14:04] <gnutron> devlogic: we just talked about feisty, its reached end of life, try this repo- deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[14:05] <devlogic> thanks muchly; I must've just missed the convo.  Time to schedule an overnight maintenance for the upgrade, I guess :(
[14:06] <gnutron> jclbrt: restarting x is common, re-booting is usually not required exeption- kernel updates
[14:06] <daxroc> After upgrading to 8.10  my sound worked fine for a while , now it seems to have switched to pulse (why) all I get when pulse is selected is some low clicking noises, from alsa hda_intel the same , I have to switch to oss to get sound which works fine for the most part. But any audio thats produced by flash is routed too pulse, can this be changed ?
[14:06] <gnutron> jclbrt: excuse the typo
[14:09] <gnutron> daxroc: seems that 8.10 has produced alot of sound issues.
[14:10] <tarelerulz> I reinstalled my system and the res every use the close source nvidia driver is 640 x 480.  What do I do
[14:10] <daxroc> gnutron: I cant understand why it would work fine then during playback it switches to pulse, very weird
[14:11] <miik> tarelerulz, maybe need edit xorg.conf and add hz for monitor
[14:11] <hipitihop> is there a way to completely reconfigure/detect sound hardware and related configurations ?
[14:11] <gnutron> tarelerulz: if i recall, there is a nvidia-settings command available in the terminal, try ubuntu search on that
[14:11] <Toznoshio> hipitihop, asoundconf
[14:11] <slayton> is it possible to generate a graphical or text representation of a folder and all its sub dirs?
[14:11] <Ian_Corne> system->admin->Nvidia X settings
[14:12] <hipitihop> Toznoshio: does that redetect evrything like a liveCD does (guessing it is HAL)
[14:12] <daxroc> gnutron: man nvidia-settings
[14:12] <Toznoshio> slayton, yes, run the find command with no arguments
[14:13] <gnutron> slayton: the 'tree' command in a terminal will do it
[14:14] <anouar> hi everybody
[14:14] <fermio91> hi... how can i format an usb device?
[14:15] <gnutron> hipitihop: system - preferences - sound is a good place to start from..
[14:15] <anouar> how can i make the NTFS partitions mounted auto when Ubuntu starts ?
[14:15] <slayton> Toznoshio, gnutron thanks
[14:16] <gnutron> !ntfs
[14:16] <gnutron> anouar: yes that can be done, install ntfs-3g i think
[14:16] <hipitihop> gnutron: I have had no problem with sound on this machine since Ubuntu 6.x sometime during 8.04 it stopped. I tested recently with a 7.4 live cd and it was fine. have now upgraded to 8.10 and still no sound
[14:17] <afancy> Hi, I met a problem on my Ubuntu. In any applications, such as konsole, sometimes, it cannot accept my keyboard input. it is just like dead. But a moment, it can accept the input again. What is the problem?
[14:17] <gnutron> hipitihop: i lost count of how many people encountered problems with sound on 8.10
[14:17] <anouar> i have installed ntfs-3, every thing work well, but every time when i start my laptop, i have to mount manualy
[14:18] <hipitihop> gnutron: my problems started with 8.04
[14:18] <afancy> Hi, I met a problem on my Ubuntu. In any applications, such as konsole, sometimes, it cannot accept my keyboard input. it is just like dead. But a moment, it can accept the input again. What is the problem?
[14:18] <gnutron> hipitihop: choose the proper device first, then try alsa as output
[14:19] <hipitihop> gnutron: in regards to "chose proper device" is that via asoundconf ?
[14:20] <gnutron> afancy: type 'top' in  terminal, see if the machine is very busy with something possibly
[14:20] <fermio91> anybody know how to format a pendrive?
[14:20] <ty_> hello
[14:20] <gnutron> afancy: 'q' to quit
[14:20] <ty_> yes
[14:20] <ty_> fermio91: use gparted and just format it to fat32
[14:21] <gnutron> hipitihop: right click on your volume icon, choose preferences i think then a dropdown box may have options
[14:21] <fermio91> thk, i try
[14:21] <kane77> what tool should I use to batch find and replace text in files?
[14:22] <scunizi> kane77, at terminal?
[14:22] <gnutron> kane77: a streaming editor like 'sed'
[14:22] <fermio91> ty_: and after i've installed it?
[14:22] <scunizi> kane77, cat, grep, sed, awk
[14:22] <afancy> gnutron: no, it is not busy
[14:23] <kane77> scunizi, gnutron any chance for gui tool? :P
[14:23] <gnutron> afancy: try restarting x-windows
[14:23] <scunizi> afancy, is this with a new install or upgrade?
[14:23] <afancy> scunizi: it is new install
[14:24] <afancy> scunizi: it is Ubuntu 8.10, i installed yesterday
[14:24] <Ximal> if i uninstall tor will it be safe to do so ?
[14:24] <scunizi> afancy, restarting xwindows will not fix this.. most likely it has to do with your video card.. what kind of card do you have, nvidia, ati, intel...?
[14:24] <hipitihop> gnutron: don't mean to be a pain, and I  understand you are probably tired of the same old same old.. how do I know what the right device is ?
[14:24] <victormanuel> hola
[14:24] <victormanuel> quien me ouede ayudar con servidor radius
[14:25] <gnutron> hipitihop: in my experience i try everything until it works.
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > victormanuel
[14:25] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[14:26] <TuxSympathiser> my laptop blew up after installing ubuntu!
[14:26] <Ximal> ouch TuxSympathiser... what happened ?
[14:26] <jiang> hello everyome...
[14:26] <gnutron> hipitihop: which devices do you show?
[14:26] <TuxSympathiser> ximal, it went nuclear
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> TuxSympathiser Thw two can hardly be related..
[14:26] <Aquahallic> installed 8.10 and it was running fine... now all of a sudden I can't resolve any DNS... can someone tell me where the command line network config is so I can set the ip,dns, and gateway manually through CLI
[14:26] <hipitihop> gnutron: for example my first one is 'Intel ICH5 (Alsa mixer) but a second list show options like 'Master, PCM...'
[14:26] <scunizi> afancy, ?? what kind of video card? do you know?
[14:26] <Ximal> what kind of laptop ... how old ?
[14:27] <TuxSympathiser> ximal just over a year old
[14:27] <TuxSympathiser> ximal, could it be the killer ethernet bug reported the other month?
[14:27] <Ximal> ethernet bug ?
[14:27] <scunizi> that's been fixed
[14:27] <TuxSympathiser> ximal, yeah with e1000e
[14:27] <gnutron> hipitihop: use the intel, thats onboard sound chip, open controls and un-mute and set levels
[14:28] <Ximal> the only way it would blow up is if u didn't disconnect the battery and then unplug it to keep the prcessor from o/h
[14:28] <hipitihop> gnutron: second device 'Analog Devices AD1985 (OSS...)'
[14:28] <TuxSympathiser> scunizi, but ubuntu was freezing only with ethernet connected and when I unplugged the ac from the laptop
[14:28] <TuxSympathiser> scunzi, it didn't freeze though when connected by wireless??
[14:29] <TuxSympathiser> scunzi, so could that be why, the killer e1000e bug?
[14:29] <thief`> anyone know a good place to find ebooks on ubuntu?
[14:29] <TuxSympathiser> and now my lappy is a hole in my desk :-(
[14:29] <wjoyce> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[14:29] <wjoyce> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > thief`
[14:29] <scunizi> TuxSympathiser, if it was the "killer ethernet" bug your wired nic wouldn't work at all.
[14:29] <gnutron> hipitihop: try both, i wish i could be more specific.
[14:29] <TuxSympathiser> scunzi, well it doesn't now LOL
[14:30] <wjoyce> my package manager returns this error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[14:30] <jtravnick> how do I take UTC off in 8.4?
[14:30] <wjoyce> what do i do
[14:30] <wjoyce> ?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> wjoyce Try patience
[14:30] <hipitihop> gnutron: what are options in the second list, like 'Master, Master Mono, PCM' should these be selected also ?
[14:31] <TuxSympathiser> scunizi, did the e1000e bug kill the ethernet streight away or over a period of time due to usage?
[14:31] <scunizi> thief`, http://www.scribd.com/
[14:31] <wjoyce> i enabled the main server in Software Sources
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> wjoyce did you then apt-get update?
[14:31] <scunizi> TuxSympathiser, As I remember it dropped it like a stone
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> scunizi Please dont support his ot in here
[14:31] <esenoy> how can I remove a rebel module from the kernel? Console says that it is in use, but i've blacklisted it...
[14:31] <gnutron> hipitihop: yes, set those levels up high, especially master and pcm
[14:31] <wjoyce> Jack_Sparrow: no i didn't, shall I run that in terminal?
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> wjoyce yes
[14:32] <wjoyce> Jack_Sparrow: thank you
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo apt-get update
[14:32] <TuxSympathiser> scunizi, so is it likely that the system lock ups are harmless to the hardware?
[14:32] <hipitihop> gnutron: I don't mean in the levels, but in the speaker icon preferences
[14:32] <wjoyce> ubuntu 8.10 is really impressive
[14:33] <TuxSympathiser> scunizi they only seem to happen when I unplug/ plug in ac during or before I receive a lot of data such as downloading a file would cause a lock up
[14:34] <scunizi> Jack_Sparrow, I haven't been on long enough to know if he's been abusing it.. I didn't see a problem asking about online ubuntu references like an ebook.  It was non specific and not a "what's the best, mostest etc"..
[14:34] <MatBoy> is it not possible to make softraid on the 8.10 cd anymore ?
[14:34] <scunizi> TuxSympathiser, could be.. I really don't know..
[14:34] <gnutron> hipitihop: when you right click, choose open controls, check the controls, if that doesnt work, change device and try controls again.
[14:34] <nelson_> hello
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> scunizi It was not for ubuntu ebooks...
[14:35] <gnutron> hipitihop: it takes toying with but it'll work eventually.
[14:35] <TuxSympathiser> scunizi, hmm ubuntu devs have a way ith breaking things that use to work perfectly in previous versions!
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> TuxSympathiser please keep your comments to yourself
[14:35] <nelson_> where are you from?
[14:35] <wjoyce> Jack_Sparrow: terminal returned this "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch"
[14:36] <scunizi> Jack_Sparrow, Here's the direct quote from above.. the one I answered "anyone know a good place to find ebooks on ubuntu?"  I read that as about ebooks for ubuntu
[14:36] <TuxSympathiser> Jack_Sparrow, they're linux devs not MS devs
[14:37] <TuxSympathiser> Jack_Sparrow, there is no plause in the EULA saying you are not about to bitch about ubuntu devs :-)
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> TuxSympathiser this is the support room..  for ubuntu...
[14:37] <hipitihop> gnutron: awesome you are a champion. One of the setting using the Intel device had option 'Exchange Front/Surrond' ticked.. turned it off and I have sound. Although I have loud buzzing/ringing
[14:37] <iSchadow> would anyone like to help me with my synaptics touchpad on ibex? it works now but the scrolling area is too small and I often miss it
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !touchpad
[14:37] <NuKKleZ> best dvd ripper?
[14:38] <wjoyce> anyway what is this error all about?
[14:38] <gnutron> hipitihop: try muting your mic or auxilary
[14:39] <iSchadow> ubottu: sorry, read it through and
[14:39] <iSchadow> dam enter button
[14:39] <nelson_> hi
[14:40] <iSchadow> ubottu: I already did the whole guide through to configure my touchpad, but I saw the "xinput"... does it do the same as gsynaptics? Would it be wise/unwise to install both at once?
[14:40] <iSchadow> oh..
[14:40] <mobodo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/devel/yasm <-- says yasm 0.7.1 is in universe - is there something I need to do to have it listed in my available packages?  Right now I only see 0.7.0
[14:40] <nelson_> who chat with me ?
[14:41] <hipitihop> gnutron: yip that helps but not totally gone. as you say, have to play around. I now know enough to be dangerous. thanks
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > nelson_
[14:41] <gnutron> hipitihop: good luck, i know its frustrating
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mobodo the latest releases will not be in the repos
[14:41] <scunizi> !ask | nelson_
[14:41] <gnutron> the experts are awake, i'm out to lunch.
[14:41] <mobodo> Jack_Sparrow:  why not?
[14:42] <Ximal> is there any way to skin the panels at top and bottom ...  such as add text to it or something without making it into a wanda type frame ?
[14:42] <NuKKleZ> any suggestions on what the best dvd ripper is?
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> mobodo # If you want the latest release, then you need to compile it yourself or see if a deb for Ubuntu is available.  It will not show up in the repos..   Only critical bug fixes are applied to the current released versions
[14:42] <jrib> NuKKleZ: I use dvdbackup, but see ubottu
[14:42] <jrib> !dvd > NuKKleZ
[14:42] <mobodo> Jack_Sparrow: ohh! alright then
[14:43] <NuKKleZ> thx jrib
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mobodo there are exceptions
[14:43] <tdrusk> Hey guys. In debian I had a package called something like python3-cli. Does ubuntu have this?
[14:43] <slayton> tdrusk, when did it get included in the debian repos?
[14:43] <tdrusk> lenny
[14:44] <tdrusk> slayton: lenny
[14:44] <slayton> tdrusk, its not in the hardy repos, but all packages in debian will automatically be ported to ubuntu
[14:44] <gnutron> hipitihop: do try to use alsa not oss in sound / preferences
[14:44] <iDevil> is it safe to run 3dsmax via ubuntu using wine?
[14:44] <jrib> tdrusk: what does it do?  There are python 3 packages in intrepid's universe though
[14:44] <jrib> iDevil: "safe"?
[14:44] <iDevil> err letme rephrase.. will it run properly?
[14:44] <jrib> !appdb | iDevil
[14:45] <scunizi> iDevil, what is that package .. ?? there might be an ubuntu/linux alternative..
[14:45] <iDevil> 3d studio max
[14:45] <jrib> iDevil: yes, try blender
[14:45] <tdrusk> jrib: it allows me to run a php program in the commandline. I am trying to make a package for a program and I really just need to know the minimal python package to use for my task
[14:45] <iDevil> blender?
[14:45] <iDevil> i'll check it out
[14:45] <iDevil> thanks jrib
[14:46] <jb-firefoxx> hi all
[14:46] <tdrusk> jrib: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/php5-cli
[14:46] <Speppa> salve
[14:46] <slayton> tdrusk, if you want to know more try #ubuntu-motu
[14:46] <jrib> tdrusk: did you mean php5-cli ?
[14:46] <scunizi> iDevil, blender is in the repos for download.. but here's the link http://www.blender.org/
[14:46] <Speppa> perchè se voglio masterizzare un mds/mdf, k3b mi dice "non sembra un file immagine  utilizzabile"?
[14:46] <Speppa> ops soorry
[14:46] <tdrusk> jrib: yes, sorry
[14:47] <fivetwentysix> blender is very good
[14:47] <jrib> tdrusk: sure, that's in ubuntu
[14:47] <jrib> !info php5-cli | tdrusk
[14:48] <tdrusk> jrib: thanks
[14:48] <iDevil> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=343
[14:48] <iDevil> garbage rating
[14:48] <duvet> hi i want to install ubuntu from live cd with xfs filesystem but grub everytime
[14:49] <duvet> how do i install lilo?
[14:49] <jrib> iDevil: blender is nice (and free!) so if you don't mind learning how to use a new program, it's a good alternative
[14:49] <jb-firefoxx> blender is great
[14:49] <scunizi> iDevil, time to learn something new :)
[14:49] <iDevil> *nods
[14:49] <duvet> grub crash
[14:49] <iDevil> is it available via apt-get ?
[14:49] <jb-firefoxx> iDevil: yes
[14:49] <jrib> iDevil: yep
[14:49] <Toznoshio> iDevil, apt:blender in Firefox
[14:50] <iDevil> yar i found it
[14:50] <iDevil> awesome
[14:50] <gnutron> duvet: GRUB may not like xfs, ext3 is preferred. I would avoid lilo. keep asking.
[14:50] <iDevil> just curious.. sudo apt-cache search packname << correct format for searching?
[14:51] <scunizi> Toznoshio, I never knew that you could do that in FF with Apt..
[14:51] <gnutron> iDevil: correct
[14:51] <duvet> why avoid lilo?
[14:51] <iDevil> thanks
[14:51] <jrib> iDevil: sudo isn't needed
[14:51] <Speppa> How I can burn a mdf/mds image cd file on k3b?
[14:51] <Toznoshio> scunizi, that's apturl at work there
[14:51] <Ian_Corne> duvet: make a /boot partition as ext3 and use zfs for your /
[14:51] <duvet> ok
[14:51] <gnutron> duvet: ubuntu uses grub as deault, i havent used lilo since the redhat days.
[14:52] <duvet> :)
[14:52] <gnutron> duvet: default rather
[14:52] <duvet> instead of lilo?
[14:53] <scunizi> Speppa, I think you have to convert it to an iso
[14:53] <gnutron> duvet:  correct
[14:53] <duvet> ok thanks
[14:53] <iSchadow> can anyone help me get my screen brightness buttons working on my laptop, in 8.10?
[14:53] <gnutron> !grub > duvet
[14:54] <Ian_Corne> ubuntu using grub by default makes it easier when you have kernel updates, they adapt the menu.list for you :)
[14:54] <Speppa> scunizi, ok thanks
[14:55] <gnutron> someone convince me upgrading from hardy to intrepid isnt premature!?
[14:56] <rjune> depends on what you need.
[14:56] <scunizi> gnutron, if you are having issues with hardy, sometimes intrepid can fix it.. it did with me..
[14:56] <Ian_Corne> i'm using intrepid because i like to know that i'm using the latest versions of software
[14:57] <gnutron> i've never had dist-upgrade problems since ubuntu's inception, but intrepid scares me and hardy works perfectly.
[14:57] <Ian_Corne> i'll be using the alpha 4/5 of jaunty too
[14:57] <scunizi> gnutron, if hardy works don't fix it..
[14:57] <gnutron> Ian_Corne: thanks for the input.
[14:57] <AdvoWork> i know with rsync and ssh you can do rsync ssh i and use a file for a ssh key, but what about without using ssh?
[14:57] <gnutron> scunizi: thanks
[14:57] <frostburn> i'm using intrepid because i know it's not the latest, but the most stable of the latest...
[14:57] <frostburn> running on the bleeding edge hemorrhages...
[14:58] <AdvoWork> ie if im doing: rsync -a -u "$FileName" $username@$host:$Backup_locationConfigLocal  but i need to pass the key from the ssh file
[14:58] <leafw> any ideas why bluetooth applet may show the "Browse device" greyed out? I have the hardware switch on, bluetooth enabled in the BIOS, and enabled in the session and in the services. I even did sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart, to no avail
[14:58] <leafw> bluetooth worked fine a few weeks ago.
[14:58] <scunizi> gnutron, unless you really like living on the edge :)..  but if you actually use the machine for work or something important... stay where you're at.
[14:59] <five_> can someone help me with setting up a wpa tkip peap connection
[14:59] <gnutron> scunizi: the edge is good :)  multiple boxes means lots of tweaking though :)
[14:59] <mikevankuik> can anyone help me with my script and getting it to run @boot time? :( pls?
[15:00] <scunizi> gnutron, with lots of boxes you gotta have at least one for a test bed.. right?  ..( just trying to help you find an excuse to upgrade)
[15:00] <tiyowan> gnutron: I came over to intrepid a week ago from winxp. Had to do some tweaking, but I'm *very* pleased with the results.
[15:01] <gnutron> scunizi: thats precisely what i need, a little pushing, thanks
[15:01]  * scunizi jumps up and down
[15:01] <tiyowan> gnutron: Just upgrade over the weekend. :-)
[15:02] <mikevankuik> I can run the script from its folder but ubuntu won't accept it in its startup file :S
[15:02] <c9s> hi all, is there any recommended wave editor ?
[15:02] <iSchadow> anyone know a temperature monitor app for linux?
[15:02] <tiyowan> c9s...maybe audacity?
[15:02] <gnutron> c9s: audacity i believe
[15:03] <Ximal> would i need to reboot after uninstalling tor and it's subsidaries ?
[15:03] <tiyowan> iSchadow: Yeah....either use Conky or there is a CPU temp. monitor applet available which you can put on your panel.\
[15:03] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; lm-sensors will be the program needed. then you could use something like conky or the sensor appelt for your toolbar
[15:03] <jxander> if i copy some text from an application and then i close the application, i lose the copied text. why?
[15:03] <jxander> under xfce
[15:04] <matic_> why would my Hardy refuse to mount drives like flash, cd/dvd and ntfs partition?
[15:04] <iSchadow> I just need something to monitor my cpu/gpu once in a while
[15:04] <iSchadow> Im-sensors?
[15:04] <rjune> lmsensors
[15:04] <c9s> thanks :)
[15:04] <rjune> that's an L, not an I
[15:04] <bullgard4> In Gutsy Ubuntu provided a package 'linhdd'. Why does Ubuntu not provide it in Hardy any more?
[15:04] <tiyowan> iSchadow: The cpu temp applet should do the trick. But I think Conky's much better if you've got some time to tweak around. It monitors *everything*. :-)
[15:04] <heinrich> hddtemp
[15:05] <kwtm> If I want to see who has been trying to connect to my computer (e.g. SSH into a certain port), which log file do I check under /var/logs?
[15:05] <bullgard4> matic_: Because you played with Hardy and misconfigured it.
[15:06] <tiyowan> iSchadow: Here's some of the stuff you can do with conky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conky
[15:06] <iSchadow> tiyowan: will it also let me raise the tolerated temps?
[15:06] <gnutron> Ximal: restarting x may be useful, a hard boot isn't likely needed.
[15:06] <gnutron> kwtm: /var/log/auth.log
[15:07] <Ximal> thanks gnutron .. i got 12 minutes left on an episode of friday night lights ... and then i'll be doing it..
[15:07] <mikevankuik> anyone here who can help me with my non starting at boot script?:(
[15:07] <tiyowan> iSchadow: I don't think so. Conky is a system monitor I believe. If you're running the dell inspiron 8000 series, you could use the i8kutils package to manage your CPU fans and temp.
[15:07] <Ximal> btw restarting x is /etc/init.d/xorg restart ?
[15:08] <matic_> bullgard4, you are right, what might I have tampered with?
[15:08] <iSchadow> well most of my hardware is intel
[15:08] <gnutron> Ximal: negative, if using gnome, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart or ctrl+alt+backspace might work.
[15:08] <bastid_raZor> tiyowan; iSchadow the actual package name is lm-sensors
[15:08] <Ximal> i'm using basic ubuntu gui
[15:08] <kwtm> gnutron: Thanks. I just checked, and I don't find any entries where I tried to SSH in from another computer. What network-related thing can I do to make sure something shows up in the log?
[15:08] <bastid_raZor> Ximal; replace xorg with gdm and that will also make X restart
[15:09] <iSchadow> bastid_raZor: can't find it with apt-get??
[15:09] <tiyowan> Ok folks, here's an interesting problem. The other day someone had trouble booting from an intrepid install on a usb. An error kept coming, "Stale NFS lock". I've been searching for it but I can't find any info. Has anyone ever encountered this before?
[15:09] <gnutron> Ximal: gksudo /etc/init.d/gdm from the gui or sudo from a terminal
[15:09] <kwtm> gnutron: for example, could I say "telnet localhost:25" --would that then show up in /var/log/auth.log for sure, to make sure I'm looking at the right log?
[15:09] <Ximal> thanks bastid_raZor..
[15:09] <ikonia> tiyowan soundsl ike they made the image from a box that was running NFS
[15:09] <ikonia> Ximal: no joy with tor so far,
[15:09] <gnutron> kwtm: i would say yes
[15:10] <Ximal> it's ok..
[15:10] <jtaji> Kwitschibo: the syntax would be telnet localhost 25
[15:10] <Ximal> i'm going to reinstall tor once i reboot x
[15:10] <Ximal> and then i'm going to install tork first
[15:10] <jtaji> kwtm: the syntax would be telnet localhost 25
[15:10] <gnutron> kwtm: /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog are useful also
[15:10] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lm-sensors&searchon=names&suite=intrepid&section=all
[15:10] <Ximal> as i haven't done this completely yet... i think it would be pertint to have people install tork as a primary function when installing tor
[15:11] <bullgard4> matic_: Please check first the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'. Secondly, check the output of 'mount'. May be you will find some abnormal lines there and get an idea why.
[15:11] <tiyowan> ikonia: I checked out NFS, from what I read on the man page, it's a network file share right? My question is, how would one go about fixing it? I mean is there a kernel option to ignore NFS shares or something? There's a cmd fileshareset, but I don't know. I'm just curious as to how one would fix something like this.
[15:11] <kwtm> gnutron, jtaji: Wow, it did show up. (I did "ssh localhost -p 22".)  But none of my other attempts did.  Okay, that helps me debug.  Thanks.
[15:11] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; hardy-proposed repo's is where it is. if you're using hardy
[15:11] <iSchadow> bastid_raZor: I'm using ibex and I have enabled all repos but I still can't find it there
[15:12] <nauticalthinker> any of you use ie6 under wine?
[15:12] <ikonia> nauticalthinker no
[15:12] <ikonia> nauticalthinker: firefox works fine
[15:12] <gnutron> kwtm: in a term use sudo tail -f /var/log/auth.log to watch as the file is written in real time
[15:12] <Ximal> why would u want internet explorer ?
[15:12] <iSchadow> nauticalthinker: question, why IE?
[15:12] <bastid_raZor> iSchadow; http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/lm-sensors
[15:12] <iSchadow> lol at the "why"s
[15:12] <nauticalthinker> lol...I need it for full access to OWA
[15:13] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use was Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet using manual wvdial...
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> It's working great, but there's a huge memory leak
[15:13] <iSchadow> nauticalthinker: you can download an IE addon for firefox
[15:13] <ikonia> nauticalthinker: so what do you want ubuntu do to about it ?
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> just asking if any of you have seen this and discovered a workaround or fix
[15:13] <scunizi> nauticalthinker, there's ie4linux out there.. but it's mostly for testing web pages etc.. it won't allow you to use sites that are explicitly designed for ie6+
[15:13] <nauticalthinker> that is what I used ie4linux
[15:13] <tiyowan> ikonia: I'm going afk, send me a pm if you can think of something or provide any links to resources. Thanks in advance.
[15:13] <ikonia> tiyowan: links on what ?
[15:14] <kwtm> gnutron: Good idea.  Thanks.  But now I need my wife's computer to see if a computer can connect from within my LAN, and if it can, then it's my router blocking the SSH attempt. <sigh> I hate debugging this DD-WRT router. :P
[15:14] <kwtm> gnutron: will debug later.  THx for help.
[15:14] <zetix> hello
[15:14] <ikonia> tiyowan: are you having this problem - as you said it was someone else
[15:14] <Toznoshio> nauticalthinker, use the user agent switcher FF addon
[15:14] <gnutron> kwtm: i use dd-wrt its great
[15:15] <scunizi> nauticalthinker, a lot of times the agent switcher in FF doesn't work because of the asp and directx that's involved with some sites.. I solved this by installing windows in virtualbox
[15:15] <kwtm> gnutron: DD-WRT: lots of features, but user interface can be confusing. (Why is port forwarding under "gaming"!??)  Anyway, see ya!
[15:15] <dalekleader> anyone familiar with vmware, I installed 6.5 on intrepid and now usb device cannot mount.  I get 'special device does not exit'
[15:15] <mikevankuik> help?
[15:16] <dalekleader> ?
[15:16] <mikevankuik> I'm trying to get some :P but did not succeed yet :P
[15:16] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[15:16] <ikonia> mikevankuik ask a question then
[15:17] <Ximal> ok... that's funny
[15:17] <Ximal> err sorry channel.. wrong window
[15:17] <Faust-C> after upgrading to 8.10 my system upon reboot gives file system is read only
[15:17] <Faust-C> then i have to manually make it r/w
[15:17] <Faust-C> is this a known issue?
[15:17] <mikevankuik> I did :P but no reaction :D but I've got this script that I want to run at boot time :) but it won't because of something wrong with the syntax it needs to be SLM or something
[15:17] <Ximal> ikonia ... u there
[15:17] <LjL> esenoy: does modprobe -r remove it?
[15:17] <ikonia> yes
[15:18] <Ximal> did u get thar one...err that...
[15:18] <esenoy> LjL: no, it didn't wors
[15:18] <esenoy> twork
[15:18] <bravo> how to impress someone to use Ubuntu?
[15:18] <bravo> ideas pls !
[15:19] <bravo> :D
[15:19] <esenoy> compiz
[15:19] <LjL> !ot | bravo
[15:19] <dalekleader> bravo: the support community
[15:19] <esenoy> LjL: how can I force a module to unload?
[15:20] <dalekleader> anyone have anything for my usb mounting problem?
[15:20] <esenoy> dalekleader: is vfat?
[15:20] <mikevankuik> ikonia: ?
[15:20] <LjL> esenoy: i don't know, modprobe -r usually manages to remove them for me.  does lsmod not give any clue why it's in use?
[15:20] <mikevankuik> I did  but no reaction  but I've got this script that I want to run at boot time  but it won't because of something wrong with the syntax it needs to be SLM or something
[15:20] <ataufik> how to make connction using Merlin U630 detected by NetworkManager?
[15:20] <danub> how to dyou mount a DLT tape?
[15:21] <danub> mount ? /dev/tape/tape0_d1 /mnt/point/
[15:21] <esenoy> LjL: I've even blacklisted it with no results
[15:21] <danub> what is the ? options supposed to be?
[15:21] <ikonia> you don't mount a tape
[15:21] <ikonia> danub: you don't mount a tape
[15:21] <dalekleader> esenoy: no
[15:21] <esenoy> LjL: I simply can't stop using it...
[15:21] <scunizi> dalekleader, I've had issues lately with vmware and have switched to vbox.. both are good but it seems vbox is a tad easier and more fun for some reason.
[15:21] <danub> dang it... how am i supposed to browse it then?
[15:21] <LjL> esenoy: which modules is it anyway
[15:22] <bravo> wat is difference between sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude ???
[15:22] <esenoy> rt61 module
[15:22] <Ximal> ok .. i am back
[15:22] <LjL> !aptitude > bravo    (bravo, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:22] <esenoy> LjL: rt61 module
[15:22] <bravo> ?
[15:22] <mikevankuik> bravo: aptitude is a gui :) apt-get not :P
[15:22] <danub> how can i browse data on a tape then?
[15:22] <Ximal> now i'm getting a connection refused error when trying to use synaptics ikonia ...
[15:22] <ikonia> danub you don't browser it, it's an archive device, what's on it depends how it was written
[15:23] <danub> tar is what they used to compress it and put it on the tape
[15:23] <gnutron> bravo: they say aptitude deals with dependancies better than apt-get for starters
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: I compiled it from source, but works very bad
[15:23] <dalekleader> scunizi: yes, I use vbox as well...but this always worked in the past and I have to remain compatible with the field
[15:23] <LjL> esenoy: so not rt61pci?
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: now I can't unload it
[15:23] <LjL> danub: then you use tar
[15:23] <danub> i just wanna be able to zgrep it and see if the file i am looking for is on the tape without having to run tar
[15:23] <scunizi> dalekleader, have you checked #vmware? at least I think that's the channel
[15:23] <LjL> danub: for instance, tar f /dev/whateverthetapeiscalled
[15:23] <danub> what is the f do?
[15:23] <esenoy> LjL: and blacklist it don't seems to work
[15:24] <mikevankuik> bravo: I use aptitude if I don't know the correct name of a package :) if I do I just use apt-get :)
[15:24] <dalekleader> i haven't because vmware isn't running at this point and I can't even mount the drive
[15:24] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:24] <danub> oh ok
[15:24] <Ximal> umm ikonia ... or anyone else with tor uninstallation experience ... I went through synaptics to uninstall tor and i come up with this now when i try to use the add remove or the synaptic installer/pacman ..
[15:24] <LjL> danub: lets you specify a file
[15:25] <danub> yeah, thats not what i am looking for though :(
[15:25] <LjL> danub: then you could, for instance, use the "t" flag (or "-list" option) to list the contents
[15:25] <gnutron> mikevankuik: aptitude is gui?  ...nay, synaptic is though. i may be wrong.
[15:25] <Ximal> and now i get this http://pastebin.ca/1281711
[15:25] <LjL> danub: is it .tar, or tar.gz? because if it's just .tar, there's no reason to *z*grep it...
[15:25] <bravo> upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 safe?? or i need to install fresh copy ??
[15:26] <danub> LjL no idea, i cant mount a tape
[15:26] <mikevankuik> gnutron: its not a x type gui :) but consider it a "dos like" gui thingy :)
[15:26] <muppo> hello, i've been trying to setup my usb sound-card but i seem to be in need of some help, http://paste.ubuntu.com/83546/
[15:26] <LjL> danub: then type "file /dev/tape", it will tell you what sort of stuff it is
[15:26] <Shrini> I use "apt-cdrom add". but it says can not mount device
[15:26] <LjL> danub: (note when i say "/dev/tape" i mean it as a shorthand to whatever the device is actually called)
[15:26] <dalekleader> scunizi, esenoy: if I fdisk -l, I see the usb drive but mount comes back with special device
[15:26] <gnutron> Ximal: thats a Tor proxy problem
[15:27] <danub> cant open device for reading
[15:27] <LjL> danub: might need sudo
[15:27] <danub> cannot open for reading rather
[15:27] <gnutron> mikevankuik: roger that then :)
[15:27] <danub> nah im root on that system
[15:27] <Ximal> well gnutron i can't seem to figure the issue out or how to undo tor long enough to install a tor handler such as tork
[15:27] <scunizi> dalekleader, usb can be connected to the vm or ubuntu but not both.. so it sounds like it's connected to the vm..
[15:27] <danub> its an old AIX system
[15:27] <mikevankuik> gnutron: you've got any experiance with running scripts on boottime?
[15:27] <esenoy> dalekleader: and sudo mount - don't work?
[15:27] <dalekleader> scunizi, even w/o vmware running?
[15:28] <esenoy> dalekleader: and sudo mount -a don't work?
[15:28] <LjL> danub: it seems you probably need to initialize it or something, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502206
[15:28] <dalekleader> esenoy, nope
[15:28] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:28] <dalekleader> esenoy, not in fstab
[15:28] <danub> ok, ill go search the AIX forums to see if i am missing something about tape devices
[15:28] <gnutron> mikevankuik: ive been up all night, i don't dare advise on that, but its not to difficult.
[15:28] <esenoy> dalekleader: I don't know, then...
[15:29] <scunizi> dalekleader, vmware services are alway running in the background.. that's one of the differences with vbox.. if vmware has been setup to start on boot and load a vm.. it's quite possible that's what's grabbing the usb.. if you have a different machine you should be able to connect to the vmware server if you have the "shortcut link"
[15:29] <mikevankuik> gnutron: :P gehehe ok :) you might want to hit the sack then ;) :P sleep does miracles I've been told ;)
[15:29] <Hideme_> Any ideas why sound just stops working in Ubuntu 8.10?
[15:29] <gnutron> Ximal: is your /etc/hosts file messed up per chance?
[15:29] <esenoy> LjL: Can I remove the module manually? Where is the module located?
[15:30] <ataufik> how to make connction using Merlin U630 detected by NetworkManager?
[15:30] <scunizi> dalekleader, vmware can load the vm without displaying it graphically on your screen
[15:31] <dalekleader> scunizi, ty, i am testing another usb to be sure..i have a server downstairs with vmware server 2.0 but have no more resources for a 3rd image :(
[15:31] <rafting> I'm so tired of this. I do: lspci | grep -i vga ; ndis ; etc. I don't find ndiswrapper. It should come with booter right(I use an USB-booter)? The network I use with Vista is detected(I am dualbooting and don't have problems with Vista) but when I try to authenticate it doesnt happen, I am positive I give the correct code(the weird thing is it shows another code if i click show password, is that the encryption?). Do I always need ndiswrap
[15:31] <scunizi> dalekleader, by resources you mean ram, or storage?
[15:32] <LjL> esenoy: somewhere in /lib/modules, use "find /lib/modules | grep rt61"
[15:32] <dalekleader> scunizi: ram
[15:32] <esenoy> LjL: Ok... I located the module (rt61.ko), but before deleting it I need to know if there is some file that calls for it
[15:32] <gnutron> esenoy: lsmod in a terminal lists, modules modprobe -r <module> removes it.
[15:32] <rconan> hello, I have a wierd problem with my sound. When I run "speaker-test -Dsurround71 -c8 the sound for "Centre" comes of of the Side Right speaker, the sound for "Side Right" comes out of the Rear Right speaker and I don't hear the sound for "Rear Right" or "LFE"
[15:32] <esenoy> LjL: Is anywhere a file that calls for modules?
[15:32] <n8tuser> rafting what are you trying to find?
[15:32] <LjL> esenoy, you said you compiled it yourself, no?
[15:33] <scunizi> dalekleader, ah.. you don't have to load all the images at the same time.. unless of course they are different appliances that are used all the time..
[15:33] <esenoy> gnutron: rmmod and modprobe didn't work...
[15:33] <lut4rp> anyoe running Ubuntu on the just updated macbook/macbook pro ?
[15:33] <esenoy> LjL: yes
[15:33] <aphesz> is it possible to use 8.10's 2.6.27 kernel on 8.04? will there be complications?
[15:33] <LjL> esenoy: then you can remove it safely
[15:33] <rafting> n8tuser: im trying to get wireless running ubuntu 8.10
[15:33] <LjL> aphesz: complications.
[15:34] <esenoy> LjL: nice... I only have to delete file, isn't it?
[15:34] <dalekleader> scunizi, I need them all, I am trying to test a system and this 5th image is giving me head ache, thanks for your time i am going to check #vmware
[15:34] <Ximal> hey gnutron i am sending u a pm ... i'm having trouble keeping up with all the chatter in this channel
[15:34] <scunizi> lut4rp, do you have a more specific question?  that one's kinda broad and leading
[15:34] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses?
[15:34] <scunizi> dalekleader, np
[15:34] <dalekleader> esenoy, thx for you time i am going to check #vmware if it exists
[15:34] <aphesz> LjL: to apps ? drivers? everything?
[15:34] <recon69> havin problems with my net connection, was scanning my IP address to see what ports where in use, several ports show as open with no service and the port numbers keep chaning every few seconds. This is happening even when I have not net apps running and a fire wall up. anyone know what the cause might be? the port numbers are all high like 44512
[15:34] <esenoy> dalekleader: np... good luck!
[15:35] <lut4rp> scunizi, i am confirming if it works fine without any serious problems. :)
[15:35] <scunizi> lut4rp, that is a totally different question.. have  you tried booting to a live cd?
[15:35] <muppo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83546/ anyone know what i've missed?
[15:35] <n8tuser> recon69-> what is your ip address? and are you scanning your own ip address? which tool?
[15:36] <jolter> Hello guys! I downloaded the ubuntu 8.10 iso file and buned it to a disc. Does not Ubuntu 8.10 contain an Graphical installation guid? because when I inserted the disc and booted up I only got into the non graphical mode
[15:36] <noxo> Hello
[15:36] <lut4rp> scunizi, ahha I am about to buy one :) and I am confirming if someone has already done it!
[15:36] <noxo> I'll soon find out
[15:36] <muppo> its for my usb sound card
[15:36] <LjL> aphesz: mostly system mechanisms for doing core stuff such as (un)plugging and things like that. if you need that kernel, just install intrepid is a much safer option.
[15:36] <scunizi> lut4rp, buy one?  you can get it for free.. www.ubuntu.com
[15:36] <scunizi> lut4rp, just download the iso and burn it.
[15:36] <n8tuser> jolter-> is it the livecd iso you downloaded for sure?
[15:36] <aphesz> LjL: ah. thanks for the info. cheers :D
[15:36] <lut4rp> scunizi, i'm totally confusing you.
[15:36] <recon69> n8tuser: I scanning my own local ip 192.168.2.10 and using netscan from system->nettools
[15:37] <lut4rp> scunizi, i am buying the new macbook.
[15:37] <jolter> n8tuser: hmm I hope so :D I've gotta check it :)
[15:37] <Hideme_> Any ideas why sound just stops working in Ubuntu 8.10 for no apparent reason?
[15:37] <Ximal> gnutron:  < >----﻿(09:29:54 AM) gnutron: Ximal: is your /etc/hosts file messed up per chance? <--- i have no clue what this is
[15:37] <scunizi> lut4rp, ah..
[15:37] <recon69> ﻿Hideme_: pulseaudio
[15:38] <Ximal> hey gnutron ; http://pastebin.ca/1281716
[15:38] <n8tuser> recon69-> compare that result with a simple netstat -n  command
[15:38] <gnutron> Ximal: paste your /etc/hosts file in pm if you like, it's just a guess as to why the repo's refer to you with your loopback address
[15:38] <scunizi> Mac users out there! will ubuntu run on the newer macbook/pro ?? lut4rp wants to buy one but needs conformation..
[15:38] <AdvoWork> can you rm all files from a directory except a certain file?
[15:39] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure
[15:39] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> yes you can, you may want to man rm  to see the options
[15:39] <gnutron> Ximal: your hosts file is just fine. must be something else
[15:39] <AdvoWork> actually, i dont think ill be able todo that
[15:39] <Toznoshio> scunizi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[15:39] <iSchadow> I installed Im-sensors now but why can't I find it?
[15:39] <jrib> AdvoWork: eh?
[15:40] <AdvoWork> im still able to remove everything from a folder/ arent i? if i just specify the folder/ so it gets everything within folder/
[15:40] <scunizi> lut4rp, ^__^  .. the post from Toznoshio has a link for y ou
[15:40] <jrib> AdvoWork: if you just run 'rm -r folder', yes
[15:40] <lut4rp> scunizi, yes, thanks. I found it.
[15:40] <jrib> AdvoWork: what exactly do you want to do?
[15:40] <AdvoWork> jrib, wont that remove the folder? i just want to remove the contents
[15:40] <gnutron> Ximal: tor is for anonymous browsing, could it be the apt-get problem? it uses proxy servers iirc
[15:41] <jrib> AdvoWork: I'm just responding to your last comment
[15:41] <Ximal> iirc ?
[15:41] <esenoy> LjL: I'm gonna try to delete module... THX (I think that my wifi will fall)
[15:41] <rafting> Is it possible for Ubuntu 8.10 to wotk with a Vista-driver without doing anything? I'm going crazy here because I can't even eliminate the possibilities. 1. Do I have to download a driver for Ubuntu? 2. Can I use ndiswrapper for Vista-drivers? 3. Which encryption method should I normall use?
[15:41] <recon69> n8tuser : "tcp        0      0 192.168.2.10:55507      192.168.2.10:55507      TIME_WAIT " greped the port number and got <-
[15:41] <fivetwentysix> rafting: What kind of drivers?
[15:42] <fivetwentysix> rafting: I can tell you that I have installed directx 9 on Wine.
[15:42] <AdvoWork> jrib,  say ive got a folder  TEST in there ive got 100 files, i want to remove all the 100 files, but leave the folder in place
[15:42] <jolter> n8tuser: ohh I think i've downloaded the wrong version... the one that i've downloaded was called ubuntu 8.10-alternate-i386.iso but It should be ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso right?
[15:42] <gnutron> Ximal: if i recall correctly = iirc
[15:42] <n8tuser> jolter-> yes
[15:42] <scunizi> rafting, wpa or wpa2 for encryption but only after you get the wireless working.. as for the rest I'll leave that to someone else.
[15:42] <jolter> n8tuser: what a newbie I am :D
[15:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: rm -r TEST/*    but will miss . files.  What shell are you using?
[15:43] <Ximal> proxy server via apt-get ? i'm unsure how to fix this issue
[15:43] <iSchadow> how do I update GTK to the latest version
[15:43] <sergiumihai> hi
[15:43] <sergiumihai> ubuntu-ru totaly sucks
[15:43] <AdvoWork> jrib, there should be any .files but if there are can you somehow do that?
[15:43] <sergiumihai> ubuntu-ru team
[15:43] <jrib> AdvoWork: only if you answer my question :)
[15:44] <AdvoWork> bash
[15:44] <n8tuser> recon69-> can you complete the thought on that last post? am not following you
[15:44] <gnutron> Ximal: have you installed network stuff prior to  your apt-get errors
[15:44] <Ximal> only tor
[15:44] <Ximal> and then uninstalled and no good
[15:44] <Ximal> i can browse the web but nothing else
[15:45] <jrib> AdvoWork: well, this should work, but will give you errors you can ignore: rm -r TEST/{*,.*}
[15:45] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses? <-- you have not responded to this
[15:45] <gnutron> Ximal: well, Tor may definetly disagree and not play nice with ubuntu repo's
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !tor
[15:45] <jolter> is there any reason to get the ubuntu 8.10 64bit version?
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jolter over 4 gigs of ram?
[15:46] <jolter> Jack_Sparrow: not really :D
[15:46] <AdvoWork> jrib, cheers will give it a go
[15:46] <fivetwentysix> jolter: over 2gb of ram?
[15:46] <gnutron> jolter: x86_64 can address more memory
[15:46] <jolter> fivetwentysix: no 512mb ram
[15:47] <sergiumihai> hey
[15:47] <jolter> gnutron: ok so no 64bit for me
[15:47] <jrib> AdvoWork: in zsh I just use *(D) to glob all files including dot files :)
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> jolter 32 will be fine
[15:47] <recon69> ﻿n8tuser: well netstat -n gave a huge list of things so i greped for the open port 'netstat -n | grep "55507"'
[15:47] <sergiumihai> please remove ubuntu-ru from ubuntu support channels
[15:47] <Hideme_> recon69  what about pulseaudio?
[15:47] <sergiumihai> they kicked me and banned becouse i used the nikcname "pidgin" !
[15:47] <jolter> Jack_Sparrow: yeah I have it atm .. works fine :)
[15:47] <sergiumihai> they are russian idiots
[15:47] <jrib> sergiumihai: #ubuntu-irc can help you
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sergiumihai
[15:48] <iSchadow> why doesn't Im-sensors show up anywhere in my system?
[15:48] <fivetwentysix> jolter, stick with 32-bit, 64-bit applications tend to use more memory since their long variables can hold much larger numbers which means taking up much more memory even if it's not being fully used
[15:48] <n8tuser> recon69-> and what is the exact output?
[15:48] <rafting> scunizi: after I got it working? so how o I get it working int he first place? the thing is I cant even figure iout what I need to fix so it is impossible to get somewhere
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> fivetwentysix good point that I had not considered
[15:48] <jolter> fivetwentysix: yeah i will do so :)
[15:49] <n8tuser> rafting-> what type of wifi interface? usb dongle? what chip it uses? <-- you have not responded to this
[15:49] <scunizi> rafting, others have ask you questions about what kind of wireless device it is etc.. without response.. maybe they will come back.. I don't have answers for you..
[15:49] <jolter> fivetwentysix: I would like to install ubuntu 8.10 on my mothers HP 6715s laptop but it does not work @ all :(
[15:49] <fivetwentysix> Although Linux has come a way to supporting 64-bit through a long and bumpy road, I think 64-bit has much less complications
[15:49] <recon69> Hideme_: well since i went to 8.04 and pluseaudio my sound cut out for a couple of seconds every hour or so and about one a week it stops totally saying my device is busy(have to kill pulse audio process and restart app to get sound again). check the ubuntu forums and you'll find more info
[15:49] <gnutron> iSchadow: not Im  it's lm-sensors, and i think you need an applet to interface w/lm-sensors.
[15:50] <fivetwentysix> That it did before..
[15:50] <fivetwentysix> jolter why not?
[15:50] <AdvoWork> jrib,  rm -r test/{*,.*} gives: rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[15:50] <iSchadow> gnutron: I downloaded all depencies, it should work?
[15:50] <jolter> fivetwentysix: I really dont know but i've been doing some readings about hp laptops and linux and that it's a bad combination but I dont know if that's true
[15:50] <jrib> AdvoWork: yep, those are the errors you ignore...
[15:51] <AdvoWork> ahh i see
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but the PcLinuxOS did work on that laptop though
[15:51] <scunizi> rafting, n8tuser asked you a question.. he may have some answers.. and you are now ignoring him.. I don't get it..
[15:51] <rdw200169> AdvoWork: it would be a nightmare if you *could* delete . and ..
[15:51] <fivetwentysix> jolter: It sounds like it's a old laptop and ubuntu doesn't detect the display card or monitor.
[15:51] <recon69> n8tuser: unfortunately the network problems i'm having stop me from logging into secure sites and posting to paste bin :( , been driving me crazy for months now
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but when I try to run the Ubuntu Live CD I get lots of error messages
[15:51] <fivetwentysix> How old is the laptop?
[15:51] <jolter> fivetwentysix: well it's and AMD 3800+
[15:52] <Ximal> is there a way for me to download via http the tork tor and privoxy packages ?
[15:52] <jrib> Ximal: apt-get
[15:52] <fivetwentysix> that's 3 years ago
[15:52] <fivetwentysix> yeah?
[15:52] <Ximal> jrib: no
[15:52] <rdw200169> Ximal: packages.ubuntu.com too, but that's a pain
[15:52] <recon69> ﻿jolter: have you tested the CD to make sure there are no error on it?
[15:52] <jrib> Ximal: yes... did you mean something different than what you asked?
[15:52] <Toznoshio> Ximal, would torbutton-extension work fr you alternatively?
[15:52] <n8tuser> recon69-> what other network problems you have?
[15:52] <Ximal> no it did not Toznoshio
[15:52] <jolter> recon69: yes because i've installed with it on other computers
[15:53] <fivetwentysix> recon69, come on, who gets cd errors these days...
[15:53] <AdvoWork> anyone know if rsync can delete files from a folder?
[15:53] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, you'd be supprised..
[15:53] <gnutron> fivetwentysix: burn a debian cd, worked for me when buntu would not
[15:53] <jolter> fivetwentysix: but the last version i've tried was hardy
[15:53] <nesakysiu> any1 knows good .cue splitter on ubuntu?
[15:53] <fivetwentysix> jolter, 8.10 is much more polished and has much better hardware support
[15:54] <n8tuser> recon69-> besides pastebin is not a secure site to paste..
[15:54] <fivetwentysix> jolter, you should give it a try.
[15:54] <jolter> fivetwentysix: yeah i'm going to burn 8.10 right now
[15:54] <fivetwentysix> jolter, my same computer im using now use to have wireless conflicts, graphic card glitches, and tons of other issues
[15:54] <Toznoshio> nesakysiu, cuetools ?
[15:55] <jolter> fivetwentysix: ok
[15:55] <fivetwentysix> jolter, I just switched back to Ubuntu from Vista and I think my hair isnt turning gray
[15:55] <recon69> n8tuser: even so, I can not currently use it, I just hangs and does nothing, I'l try pasteinit
[15:55] <jolter> fivetwentysix: haha :D
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> vista is too bloated
[15:55] <nesakysiu> Toznoshio where can i find it?
[15:55] <reduz> help! ubuntu doesn't let me change my IP to static in the network config window.. it stays with the dhcp assigned IP, how do i change it? :(
[15:55] <fivetwentysix> ActionParsnip, /agree, I wanted to pick up programming again
[15:55] <Toznoshio> nesakysiu, apt-get install cuetools
[15:56] <scunizi> reduz, click the unlock button before trying
[15:56] <fivetwentysix> ActionParsnip, But Vista has too many libraries they force you to use and makes compiling shit in that environment such a mess
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> reduz: try a different app or you can manually code it in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:56] <AlexOnRuby> woo
[15:56] <AlexOnRuby> lots of ppl
[15:56] <jolter> fivetwentysix: well in about 10 minutes i'm gonna give that laptop another try
[15:56] <reduz> scunizi, what unlock buttun? i don't see anything
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> fivetwentysix: ive not coded under vista, ive made dos apps only :)
[15:57] <reduz> ActionParsnip, but why a different app? it's supposed to be this one, i mean i go change the network to static IP and set everything fine, but the ip doesn't change when i close the window
[15:57] <fivetwentysix> I installed Direct X with Wine lol
[15:57] <scunizi> reduz, go to System>Admin>network  and change things there.. that's where the unlock button is.
[15:57] <jolter> fivetwentysix: Ubuntu 8.10 works really well on my Toshiba Tecra computer :)
[15:57] <AlexOnRuby> hello i am a vista user who begins to hate windows really bad. .. can i install ubuntu on one of my windows partition ?
[15:57] <AlexOnRuby> :D
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> reduz: ive never used apps like that, i just set it with the config file (im old school)
[15:57] <jolter> fivetwentysix: even though the computer is old :)
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> AlexOnRuby: you could use a VM
[15:58] <reduz> scunizi, there's no such thing as System > Admin > Network
[15:58] <reduz> scunizi, only network tools
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> AlexOnRuby: or dual boot
[15:58] <Toznoshio> AlexOnRuby, google wubi
[15:58] <AlexOnRuby> ok
[15:58] <AlexOnRuby> tx
[15:58] <fivetwentysix> AlexOnRuby, Sure, but you need a partition plan because Linux doesn't run off NTFS devices.
[15:58] <Hideme_> recon69  I killed it.... but how were you restarting it?
[15:59] <scunizi> reduz, ah.. I'm on hardy. you must be on intrepid.. I don't know if it's in the repos but. sudo apt-get install nm-appellate.. or do it by hand like it was mentioned before.
[15:59] <fivetwentysix> I personally don't see how people can bother dual booting..
[15:59] <n8tuser> reduz-> it may not be in your menu, but you can   gksu  network-admin &
[15:59] <fivetwentysix> Vista isn't that bad to make me want to dual boot with Linux...
[15:59] <error404notfound> how can I check if my connections are being going throw a  transparent squid proxy?
[15:59] <reduz> scunizi, E: Couldn't find package nm-appellat
[15:59] <recon69> n8tuser: no, pastebinit wont work either :(
[15:59] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, only if you're into games or have an absolute need for an app that only exists in win.
[15:59] <reduz> scunizi, sounds too difficult to do by hand
[15:59] <eth01>  netstat -tl
[16:00] <fivetwentysix> I would never want to dual boot, it's absolutely annoying.
[16:00] <urbands> applet
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: i game on all my linux machines
[16:00] <badawi> error404notfound: stop squid
[16:00] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, use a site called what is my ip address
[16:00] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: Solved, just install directx with wine...
[16:00] <dimebar> the only reason i dual boot is counterstrike
[16:00] <reduz> scunizi, also why doesn't the ubuntu network settings window work? isn't it a serious bug?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: CS runs great in wine
[16:00] <error404notfound> Toznoshio: that will give me my live ip address, what if proxy is running on the gateway..
[16:00] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, so you got directx to install.. doesn't mean the games will run
[16:00] <poss> :)
[16:01] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: it does but my usb headset doesnt :p
[16:01] <n8tuser> recon69-> well, if you have such a complex networking, perhaps you are an advance user and should be able to resolve this yourself
[16:01] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, AFAIK the site tells you about proxies too
[16:01] <scunizi> reduz, I haven't messed with it in intrepid so I couldn't tell you ..
[16:01] <fivetwentysix> scunizi, Isn't that all games depend on? Direct x?
[16:01] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, no
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: i see, id get a new headset then and save the space hogged by windows
[16:01] <bullgard4> In Gutsy Ubuntu provided a package 'linhdd'. Why does Ubuntu not provide it in Hardy any more?
[16:01] <fivetwentysix> I got hardware accelartion enabled
[16:01] <error404notfound> Toznoshio: can you tell me the url?
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> for my graphics card
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> I don't see why any game wouldn't work on my system.
[16:02] <recon69> n8tuser: complex? is a basic install of 8.04 using a wireless router . not complex about it except that it only half works
[16:02] <rjune> fivetwentysix, power.
[16:02] <rjune> libraries
[16:02] <scunizi> bullgard4, you have to ask the dev's about that.. maybe there's another package that's replaced it.
[16:02] <rjune> old versions of myth II soulblighter probably won't work.
[16:02] <daleklea1er> Q: I have 2 pc's (Xubuntu 8.04 and ubuntu 8.10) i am trying to get synergy to work but each machine has a different version.  How do you get access to the same packages?
[16:02] <fivetwentysix> Well anyways
[16:02] <bullgard4> scunizi: I have to? oO
[16:03] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, whatismyipaddress.com
[16:03] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: when my current one dies i may do but i can tolerate 2 or 3 boots to windows a week
[16:03] <n8tuser> recon69-> the way you have mumbled earlier, you made it sound so complex,
[16:03] <fivetwentysix> All I play is DotA/War3, that works with my operating system.
[16:03] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, good luck.. if it was that easy then winehq would have to rate different programs as to their functionality
[16:03] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: Wine ratings are based on how apps work with wine libs ...
[16:03] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; it is possible to enable the backports in 8.04 to get some of the 8.10 packages but that isn't always true.
[16:03] <LjL> bullgard4: most likely just because debian dropped it
[16:04] <fivetwentysix> scunizi: If you import Windows libs, it's like cheating.
[16:04] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:04] <scunizi> bullgard4, nobody here has an answer to why it's not in the repos for intrepid.. only the dev's can answer that question.
[16:04] <outboard> how did i break this  , ubuntu boots up to a comand line  not the gnome gui
[16:04] <bullgard4> LjL: Thank you.
[16:04] <Toznoshio> error404notfound, http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/advanced-proxy-test
[16:04] <ltineo> hello all
[16:04] <scunizi> fivetwentysix, ok.. give it a shot.. install something and report back your findings.
[16:04] <booksbuggy> outboard, what kind of command line did you get?
[16:05] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor: would that mess up all packages?
[16:05] <remoteCTR1> .
[16:05] <outboard> command line login
[16:05] <ltineo> i have a little wireless problem with a compaq presario 2500 and broadcom
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: http://www.pcbypaul.com/software/dl/linHDD-0.4.tar.bz2
[16:05] <LjL> bullgard4: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-project%40lists.debian.org/msg14921.html
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: if you want it, compile it, make a deb and install the deb
[16:05] <booksbuggy> outboard, does it boot into the desktop after you enter the user name and password
[16:05] <n8tuser> outboard-> log on and look in /var/log/  for X logs
[16:05] <booksbuggy> outboard, not asking them just wondering if it went to the place
 nope
[16:06] <booksbuggy> oh
[16:06] <booksbuggy> strange
[16:06] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:06] <recon69> n8tuser: I could write a book and the number of different symptoms of networking trouble I having. but the setup is basic. two days ago i could cause a kernel panic using nmap on my router, now that stopped happening. get "connection interrupted" when logging into hotmail ect, nearly ready to go back to windows after 4 years
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: its your system. I'd just use a standard 3.5mm jack that plugs into the mic port on ANY souncard rather than some flashy (probably not supported) thing
[16:06] <n8tuser> ltineo-> thats a common problem, broadcom 43xx chip, but some are able to make it work
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | ltineo
[16:07] <Hideme_> recon69  ?
[16:07] <habit> Hello. Help me please - how much place on hdd will take full repository of intrepid? Including universe.
[16:07] <changeling> a lot?
[16:07] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; it would attempt to upgrade what packages are in the backports. you could try to just upgrade a specific package without doing a full update
[16:08] <obi_> can anyone point me in the direction of a good opensource PDF converter. or better still, tell me how to do it with the software that comes with ubuntu
[16:08] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; you have the option of allowing it to update them or not to.
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> habit: lots. my gues would be a few Tb's
[16:08] <recon69> ﻿Hideme_: it'll restart itself, just restart the app you want sound from
[16:08] <n8tuser> recon69-> umm, when you say a router, a router in front of your ubuntu or the ubuntu acting as router itself?  you have all these external devices causing your issues?
[16:08] <Toznoshio> obi_, like pdfedit?
[16:08] <outboard> i have Xorg logs
[16:08] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[16:08] <obi_> toznoshio: i assume, yes
[16:09] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor, so if I enable the backport -> upgrade the 1 or 2 packages -> then disable I would be good?
[16:09] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: my 'system' is fine; usb headset works fine with ALSA just not with wine
[16:09] <Toznoshio> obi_, otherwise use the cups-pdf printer driver
[16:09] <ltineo> n8tuser and ubotttu: I followed a guide to make b43xx to work and it did work altough i needed to add wicd to the equation, but now my wireless is disabled and i cannot get it enabled
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> obi_: if you want to convert a file to pdf, you have a pdf printer installed by default, just print to it and one will be made
[16:09] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; yes, you would be fine.
[16:09] <Hideme_> wow.. that worked
[16:09] <Hideme_> thanks
[16:09] <habit> ActionParsnip, where can I check it?
[16:09] <[c0re]> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables...
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: strange
[16:09] <n8tuser> ltineo-> can you post in pastebin  the results of  cat /etc/network/interfaces
[16:10] <outboard> i have Xorg logs
[16:10] <daleklea1er> bastid_raZor, cool ty
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> habit: i'd email to repo maintainers and ask, its gonna be a fairly colossol figure
[16:10] <fivetwentysix> My network connection periodically spikes! I'm using a wireless connection, I have reason to believe it's the same cause that happens with Vista but was solved by using a third party app to disable periodic scan for wireless networks. Is there a way to disable this in Linux?
[16:10] <habit> We want to mirror ubuntu intrepid repo on our ISP, but first we need to know how much it takes plase.
[16:10] <bastid_raZor> daleklea1er; good luck :)
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> habit about 6 dvd's worth
[16:10] <obi_> actionparsnip: no from a pdf
[16:10] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: the headphones work fine just not the microphone.  I tried everything to get it working but gave up
[16:10] <bumm13> anyone here know what to do regarding an otherwise-functioning intrepid system but the keyboard and mouse refuse to work in X?
[16:10] <ltineo>  n8tuser: where?
[16:10] <habit> Jack_Sparrow, 6 dvd is ~25gb including universe?
[16:10] <n8tuser> !pastebin | ltineo
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !mirror
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> dimebar: fair point. Im sure you got better things to do than mess with a mic
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> habit yes..
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> habit: plus backports,
[16:11] <recon69> n8tuser: it's a external G+ Mimo router, the problem is intermittent . and does not affect windows boxes , nearest bug report i found was bug #89160 but the solutions i tried did not help. tell me, should i get 3 pages of results from netstat -n ?
[16:11] <habit> Thanks a lot.
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:11] <ltineo> i will do so now one moment pls
[16:12] <dimebar> ActionParsnip: if I didn't have a working xp installation with only steam and cs installed i'd have persevered (or bought a new headset) but solving a software problem with extra hardware seems silly
[16:12] <AdvoWork> how can you unmount something when its giving this error: unmount error 16 = Device or resource busy  - its not busy or in use, so its stuck
[16:12] <n8tuser> fivetwentysix-> umm i think by design, wifi has to listen to beacons being broadcast, you can not possibly have your transmitter constantly on or else you'd flood the airwave noh?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: lsof | grep <mount point name>
[16:12] <Toznoshio> AdvoWork, use lsof to find out
[16:12] <daleklea1er> AdvoWork, best to close the process in use
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: that will show files open on the mount
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: you can then ps -ef | grep <thing> and kill its PID if the app is still running
[16:13] <n8tuser> recon69-> if the issue is you can not get wireless to work, lets resolve that, but dont get that confused with the results of netstat (services being active) .. two different issues
[16:13] <AdvoWork> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() cifs file system /home/theshare :S
[16:14] <recon69> ﻿Hideme_: it's only a temporary fix, you will likely have the same problem again. if it get to annoying look at removing pluseaudio and using the only sound system. I dont mind it that much and hope it will get fixed soon
[16:14] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> actually   fuser -km /dev/sdxxx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: can you run: lsof | less
[16:14] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> but you dont want to kill the process using /  your root ..get it?
[16:14] <roger__> is there anyone that can help with copying ubuntu to another partition
[16:15] <Guest31409> When can I get the address of third party repositories
[16:15] <outboard> i have Xorg logs , n8tuser , i guss your helping me now
[16:15] <AdvoWork> ActionParsnip, i get the same error
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> roger__: is the partition you are copyin your / ?
[16:15] <ltineo> n8tuser and ubottu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83564/
[16:15] <scunizi> roger__, are you trying to move your /home?
[16:15] <roger__> i need all of ubuntu to another drive
[16:15] <n8tuser> outboard-> ill try, so go and look at that log to see what errors you have, and hopefully  get some hint on how to fix it
[16:16] <roger__> this drive it's on is old old 13gb ata66
[16:16] <roger__> and other drive is ata133 60gb
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> roger__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75251
[16:16] <LjL> roger__: and you're doing that by copying everything over to a SMB share...?
[16:16] <n8tuser> ltineo-> which chip does your wifi have again?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> roger__: the speed increase will be nice too :)
[16:16] <scunizi> roger__, use partimage to mirror the current partition and restore it to the other drive
[16:17] <roger__> is there a deb for partimage
[16:17] <LjL> !info partimage | roger__
[16:17] <outboard> n8tuser : n00b question=> what is the command for the command line editor ?
[16:17] <LjL> !packages > roger__    (roger__, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:17] <AdvoWork> should fuser -km /dev/sdxxx be sdxxx or replace with something else?
[16:17] <n8tuser> ltineo-> also try it without using encryption, ie set your AP to be open first then try the wpa once the on the clear works
[16:17] <ltineo> bcm4306
[16:17] <roger__> huh
[16:17] <scunizi> roger__, www.sysresccd.org
[16:17] <AdvoWork> n8tuser, what did you mena?
[16:18] <ltineo> the problem is that wicd doesn't see any wireless interface nor does ifconfig
[16:18] <scunizi> roger__, it's a live cd with partimage on it.
[16:18] <n8tuser> outboard-> may I suggest a tutorial on learning how to use linux?  btw, vim, nano, joe, pine are editors you can use
[16:18] <ltineo> i listed my wireless interfaces with lshw -C network and also with iwlist
[16:18] <roger__> i don't have blank cd's
[16:18] <recon69> n8tuser: my wireless works for some things. I just cant use certain sites, like gmail , hotmail, pastebin, a lot of forums ect. keep getting "connection interrupted" or a blank page. and it's intermittent , could work find for a week the stop. I been tring to figure this out for 6 months but every time i think i got a clue it turns out to be wrong.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: replace sdxx with the partition name in /dev/ (e.g /dev/sda1)
[16:18] <n8tuser> AdvoWork-> if unclear ,  man  fuser please to get an idea on how to  use this tool
[16:18] <LjL> roger__: whatever you do, *don't* copy your installation over by making it go through a SMB share. if anything, tar it.
[16:19] <deadkode> n8tuser: pine works as a text editor?
[16:19] <roger__> i dunno what smb share is, but i'm not doing that
[16:19] <fletch> *Serious Question* I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:19] <scunizi> roger__, then you have a problem.. got a live cd? maybe you can apt-get partimage on the live cd and use it there.. I've never tried
[16:19] <n8tuser> deadkode-> second thing i lost is my memory, what do you expect :P
[16:20] <AdvoWork> tried it with sda1, 2, 3 nothing
[16:20] <Guest31409> Can we install Gtalk on ubuntu?
[16:20] <deadkode> Guest31409: you can use it with pidgin, which is an amazing im tool
[16:20] <scunizi> Guest31409, pidgin works for gtalk.. also wengophone
[16:20] <LjL> Guest31409: would that be GNU Talk, or Google Talk?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> roger__: you could mount both disks and use rsync: http://encodable.com/tech/blog/2006/10/30/Ubuntu_Linux_Hard_Drive_Upgrade
[16:21] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, nice link
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> LjL: would that work, looks massively cheeky
[16:21] <error404notfound> how can I copy an entire directory tree except a certain directory?
[16:21] <fletch> *Serious Question* I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: would that work, its sneaky as hell
[16:21] <LjL> ActionParsnip: i'm completely not familiar with rsync. myself, i would probably tar it.
[16:21] <roger__> ok after i copy this over i have to edit the fstab right to new drive
[16:22] <LjL> ActionParsnip: unless of course the two drives are both connected to the same computer, in which case i'd see nothing wrong with "cp"
[16:22] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, don't know.. the only thing it wouldn't get is the MBR and grub would have to be reinstalled.. also uuid references in fstab.. sounds like a headache
[16:22] <AdvoWork> so how else can i remove it then as i cant get any details of how or by what its being used by :S
[16:22] <Guest31409> deadkode: I am using it, but have issues of connection, when I start it. It does not show up my friends, i have to change the status for me to get connected .
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> LjL: just makes one directory look like another with comparisons every now and again, first one would see an empty drive and copy the data over
[16:22] <fletch> I mounted my Windows Hard Drive onto my Linux Drive using NFTS Driver, but I named it wrong and I'm trying to reverse the process but it's not working, any suggestions?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> scunizi: true (tbh id go for a clean install)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fletch: what did you name wrong?
[16:23] <LjL> Guest31409: as far as i'm aware, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol (or more properly the XMPP protocol), which is an open-source instant messenging protocol, so you can use any Jabber/XMPP compatible client
[16:23] <matic_> fletch, did you backup the fstab
[16:23] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I added a space so like /media/Windows Drive
[16:23] <fletch> matic_: what do you mean?
[16:23] <Guest31409> LjL: Any for suggestion ?
[16:23] <scunizi> ActionParsnip, roger__ better to just make a partition for  /home .. copy it over  and do a fresh install without formatting /home
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> fletch: ok then use: sudo umount /media/Windows\ Drive
[16:24] <matic_> fletch, did you edit the file /etc/fstab?
[16:24] <ne2k__> it seems as though the new drivers/ata/pata_it821x driver in hardy/intrepid (2.6.24-22) is completely broken. it also seems that the drivers/ide/pci/it821x driver that worked in feisty (2.6.15-29) is still in the mainstream kernel (2.6.27-8), but has been removed from hardy/intrepid one. this means I need to use an old kernel on my intrepid server. any reason for this?
[16:24] <AdvoWork> also doing ls -all shows this weirdness: ?---------  ? ?        ?             ?                ? Backups
[16:24] <fletch> matic_: no
[16:24] <LjL> Guest31409: no, i wouldn't really know which to suggest, but "apt-cache search jabber client" and "apt-cache search xmpp client" shows quite a few
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> fletch: then rename / delete the mount point. try to avoid spaces in names, it causes headaches
[16:24] <fletch> ActionParsnip: did that, unmounted it, then wanted to rename or delete
[16:24] <Guest31409> LjL: Thanks.
[16:24] <rdw200169> Guest31409: Pidgin does XMPP
[16:24] <fletch> ActionParsnip: thats what I'm having issues with
[16:25] <rdw200169> Guest31409: and it works on Google Talk, i know this for a fact.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fletch: then use: sudo mv /media/Windows\ Drive /media/<new name goes here buddy>
[16:25] <fletch> ActionParsnip: kind of a linux new
[16:25] <fletch> b
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> fletch: you'll learn
[16:25] <fletch> ActionParsnip: thanks man
[16:25] <LjL> Guest31409: you could try "gossip" and "ayttm", since they're GNOME programs
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: as I said, spaces arent really great in mount points
[16:26] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I love you, that works lol thanks
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: np man :D
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: mv = move
[16:26] <afallenhope|work> is there a way of making a LiveCD of my current ubuntu install?
[16:26] <scunizi> fletch, spaces aren't good in most places.. directory names, mount points, file names... etc
[16:26] <fletch> scunizi: yeah I learned the hard way lol
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> fletch: you moved the folder to be named a different name in the same location, effectively renaming it
[16:26] <fletch> ActionParsnip: so to remount?
[16:27] <bullgard4> LjL: Thank you for your thorough explanation.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> fletch: if you mounted it before, press up cursor til you see the old mount command and edit it appropriately
[16:28] <LjL> afallenhope|work: not very easily, i guess, but it should be possible
[16:28] <LjL> !customlivecd > afallenhope|work    (afallenhope|work, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:28] <LjL> !cloning > afallenhope|work    (afallenhope|work, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:28] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I did it visually with the NTFS driver, but it does not see the windows partition anymore
[16:28] <roger__> this partimage doesn't have a gui, it runs in a terminal, did i install it wrong or something
[16:28] <LjL> afallenhope|work: by combining those together, it should be doable. it'll take quite an amount of diskspace i suspect.
[16:28] <rpfaff> my 3d acceleration works on my laptop but runs very slow on my second monitor, whats wrong?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> fletch: what is the partition name in fdisk? /dev/sd?
[16:28] <LjL> roger__: no, it simply *is* a terminal program.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> fletch: sudo fdisk -l will output the partitions. we just need its name
[16:29] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: LjL provided a thorough answer to the question which I put here in the channel. --  Thank you.
[16:29] <roger__> oh no
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> fletch: or you can reuse the app you used before
[16:29] <fletch> ActionParsnip: sda2
[16:29] <Ximal> i've been having trouble with tor and the like .. and i am wandering if there is any way to uninstall tor or to ensure synaptic can get access to the web ? if not i am ok to reinstall if i have too.. i just want to get this done because tor is messing up my ability to receive updates
[16:29] <scunizi> roger__, however it runs a type of menu system in the terminal.. so don't worry.. kinda like an old dos program
[16:29] <ikonia> Ximal did you install tor through synaptic ?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> fletch: sudo mount /dev/sda2 -t ntfs-3g /media/<mountpoint goes here buddy>/ -o uid=1000
[16:30] <LjL> Ximal: way to uninstall Tor? of course there is, like any program, you'd just "sudo apt-get remove tor"
[16:30] <scunizi> roger__, to start it type partimage in terminal after install.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: as long as you are happy, sweet :D
[16:30] <Ximal> yes ikonia ... and if i could find a way to download the entire repository i would just to be able to not have to deal with this issue..
[16:30] <ikonia> Ximal: dpkg can be used to remove tor
[16:30] <roger__> yeah i got it running now
[16:30] <Ximal> i tried removing tor through synaptic Ljl and now I cannot even get a connection to the update manager let alone synaptic or the apt-get
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> roger__: sweet :)
[16:30] <ikonia> Ximal: I'm trying to work out why tor is not working for you, it looks like a config issue, but I can't see where
[16:31] <fletch> ActionParsnip: copy that whole thing, even that stuff at the end there? lol
[16:31] <LjL> Ximal: you don't need any connection to remove packages. "sudo apt-get remove tor" won't connect to anything.
[16:31] <Ximal> well ikonia ... i'm trying to get synaptic to work and unfortunately uninstalling tor made things worse
[16:31] <roger__> i got a ext3 on my other drive already with a swap, so i just make a image and restore it to that right
[16:31] <ikonia> Ximal: I suggest you use dpkg to remove it and make sure your proxy settings for ubuntu (not firefox) are removed
[16:31] <Ximal> is there a way to turn off the instance of tor that is running ? just in case that's the problem ?
[16:31] <LjL> Ximal, do the commands "echo $http_proxy" and "echo $HTTP_PROXY" say anything?
[16:32] <fletch> ActionParsnip: that didn't work
[16:32] <ikonia> LjL: he's got a proxy setting for tor in his env, but as tor is not running it's causing an issue
[16:32] <LjL> ikonia: he's probably got a proxy setting for Privoxy though, not Tor itself
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> fletch: if its mounted then you dont need it, if you want it mounted auto at boot you will need to add something like that to /etc/fstab
[16:32] <ikonia> correct
[16:32] <ikonia> LjL: correct
[16:32] <Ximal> 127.0.0.1;9050
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | fletch
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | fletch
[16:33] <Ximal> HTTP PROXY returned NO response but a clear file
[16:33] <LjL> Ximal: so type "export http_proxy=" and "export HTTP_PROXY=", and APT will resume working (only in that specific terminal, though).
[16:33] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:33] <Ximal> ahh...
[16:33] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I'm using NTFS Configuration Tool, but it doesn't see that device anymore
[16:33] <Ximal> i wish i had known that before lj;
[16:33] <LjL> Ximal: you will probably fix the issue if you remove and purge the "privoxy" package
[16:33] <ikonia> LjL: nice idea
[16:34] <fletch> ActionParsnip: I'll figure it out, thanks for the help gtg
[16:35] <rockstarmike> Hey there, I'm having a problem with a lot of my text kind of blacked out and garbled...anyone want to take a look at a screen shot and see if they've seen it before?
[16:35] <Ximal> why is privoxy required to run tor though isn't it ?
[16:35] <ikonia> Ximal: prixoy is your proxy
[16:36] <powertool08> Does anyone know why alt+1 won't work to change to window one in my terminal
[16:36] <rockstarmike> everything ends up looking like the screenshots I posted here
[16:36] <rockstarmike> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:37] <MattJ> Guest31409: For the record Gajim is a good client
[16:37] <Ximal> oh wow ikonia .. privoxy was a bungled install
[16:37] <Ximal> this whole time..
[16:37] <scunizi> powertool08, ctrl+alt+f1
[16:37] <Ximal> i mean majorly
[16:37] <Ximal> i got synaptic to work for the moment... let u know the result shortly..
[16:37] <powertool08> scunizi: not the virtual terminal, like a single console window within X
[16:37] <scunizi> MattJ, you mean Gaim?  Gaim IS Pidgin
[16:38] <scunizi> powertool08, alt+f2
[16:38] <rockstarmike> :/
[16:38] <AdvoWork> whats going on here? rm -r ZimraBackupDir/ rm: cannot lstat `ZimraBackupDir/': Not a directory rm  ZimraBackupDir rm: cannot remove `ZimraBackupDir': Is a directory  its not, but then it is? :S
[16:39] <null_mind> on ubuntuforums.org, is the "Dell Ubuntu Support" forum only for owners of Dells with preinstalled ubuntu?
[16:39] <powertool08> scunizi: that opens a run dialog, for example, I use irssi, I can change to windows 2, 3, etc with alt+2 or alt+3, but alt+1 doesn't change to window 1
[16:39] <snsh> всем привет!
[16:39] <MattJ> scunizi: I know what I'm talking about, I mean Gajim :)
[16:39] <snsh> кто - нибудь говорит по-русски?
[16:39] <MattJ> !ru
[16:40] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:40] <derdon> rpfaff: disable them
[16:40] <scunizi> powertool08, k.. I'm lost.. sorry.. I don't have the answer to that one.
[16:40] <Ximal> hey ... is tor automatically ran at startup ?
[16:40] <powertool08> scunizi: ok, thanks anyway
[16:40] <semo> hi. my friend has a problem with her W-LAN. the AP she wants to connect dont accept the right password ubt is worked days before
[16:40] <kubuc> hi, i have a question. Looking at my desktop it seams to run in less colors then i want. I have ATI HD2400 XT, apearently it runs on xserver-xorg-radeon, why isnt the xserver-xorg-radeonhd installe dper default? And how to alter color depth?
[16:42] <rpfaff> derdon: not quite the solution im looking for
[16:42] <rpfaff> when i enable visual effects it works fine on my laptop, but runs super super slow on my second monitor? help!
[16:42] <kubuc> rpfaff, it depends if you can get the hardware acceleration running i gues
[16:43] <derdon> rpfaff: the information have to be sent from your laptop to your monitor. that takes time
[16:43] <Zzeiss> I'm having a problem compiling libdvdcss.  When I run .configure --prefix=/usr, I get "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check.  See `config.log' for more details."  Any ideas?
[16:43] <revmoo> quick question, how do I completely disable window shade? There is an ubuntu bug where if my scroll wheel moves while going over a titlebar it rolls up the whole window. How do I disable this behavior?
[16:43] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:44] <rpfaff> kubuc: it does work, on my laptop just fine. my second monitor is almost unresponsive its so slow
[16:44] <allsystemsarego> revmoo, System-Prefs-Windows
[16:44] <revmoo> allsystemsarego: tried that
[16:44] <revmoo> allsystemsarego: that only affects double-click action
[16:44] <Zzeiss> revmoo:  You must have button 3, 4, or 5 set to roll-uip.  Check system>prefs>windows for it.
[16:44] <revmoo> there aren't any options related to that
[16:45] <revmoo> only double click on titlebar
[16:45] <revmoo> which I've already set
[16:45] <ghumman> I am begner
[16:45] <revmoo> however, accidentally rolling the wheel still causes windows to roll up
[16:45] <rpfaff> derdon: its not like a lag, its like enabling visual effects on a computer w/ no 3d card. almost unresponsive
[16:45] <ghumman> which tool will help to creat m3u
[16:46] <allsystemsarego> ghumman, audacious
[16:46] <LasBuntu> I run 2 windows computers and my ubuntu machine on a KVM, the ubuntu screen is 1/4 inch offset, but when I move the monitor settings around it changes the windows machines and vice-versa. Is there any way to move the ubuntu display? (lcd panel btw) thanks
[16:46] <derdon> ghumman: moc
[16:47] <kubuc> rpfaff, it could be many things, maybe randr is messing up, but as a start look if /var/log/Xorg.0.log reveals anything ...
[16:47] <revmoo> quick question, how do I completely disable window shade? There is an ubuntu bug where if my scroll wheel moves while going over a titlebar it rolls up the whole window. How do I disable this behavior?
[16:47] <rockstarmike> LasBuntu: that's weird, I don't have that problem with KVM...my problem with kvm is when i switch back my mouse freaks out for like 5 seconds
[16:47] <d3co> a need install ltsp server! do you know ?? 3
[16:47] <ghumman> my firefox hang what command to shutdown  i  may use
[16:48] <revmoo> killall -9 firefox
[16:48] <LasBuntu> i've tried different video cards and ubuntu is always offset from the 2 windows boxes no matter how I put the cards in
[16:48] <ghumman> thnakyou
[16:48] <rockstarmike> hrm, i just auto adjust when i boot the ubuntu box...and they both stay perfect
[16:49] <sergiumihai> hi, it is possible to change screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10 by editing xorg.conf ?
[16:49] <semo> are there any known bugs in the w-lan tool from ubuntu?
[16:49] <LasBuntu> Rockstarmike: when "on boot" exactly?
[16:49] <rockstarmike> when I hit the login screen
[16:49] <LasBuntu> before x?
[16:49] <rockstarmike> after x
[16:49] <d3co> yes lstpserver!!
[16:49] <LasBuntu> hrrm
[16:49]  * LasBuntu tests that
[16:50] <d3co> say ltsp server
[16:50] <sergiumihai> how to detect the monitor in ubuntu
[16:51] <sindar> !hint 14
[16:51] <sergiumihai> how to change screen resolution.
[16:51] <Captcha> Hey
[16:51] <nesakysiu> i get an error trying to install beep media player E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player
[16:51] <LasBuntu> nope, still 1/4 offset in windows then
[16:51] <nesakysiu> whats wrong?
[16:52] <bedo2991> rieccomi
[16:52] <kubuc> sergiumihai, did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as root user)?
[16:52] <sergiumihai> ubuntu is not still for human being, it's almost but not yet
[16:52] <rockstarmike> what type of KVM switch is it?
[16:52] <LjL> nesakysiu: the fact that the package for Beep is called "bmpx", not "beep-media-player"
[16:52] <sergiumihai> kubuc, nope.
[16:52] <LasBuntu> rockstarmike: kinda old and slightly cheap, but has no problems with any other os/box
[16:53] <LasBuntu> rockstarmike: i'm forced to think it's Ubuntu, since I can swap the cards directly and have the same issue
[16:53] <quizme> hi, configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH  <--- what's should i do ?
[16:53] <quizme> sorry
[16:53] <sergiumihai> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg this did not change the resolution ..
[16:53] <LjL> !build-essential > quizme    (quizme, see the private message from ubottu)
[16:53] <quizme> i'm a newbie
[16:53] <LjL> quizme: if you're a newbie, why are you compiling things manually?
[16:54] <lesshaste> how do I get kghostview in intrepid? The upgrade seems to have killed it
[16:54] <quizme> LjL: cuz i'm a hardcore newbie
[16:54] <rockstarmike> sounds like it
[16:54] <kubuc> quizme, installed build-essential ?
[16:54] <derdon> lesshaste: wait till 9.04 :)
[16:54] <lesshaste> derdon, I need it for kile
[16:54] <LjL> quizme: don't come here to complain if you compile something and then install it in your root hierarchy and that results in various sorts of system breakage.
[16:54] <lesshaste> is it still available?
[16:55] <LjL> lesshaste: i'm afraid that, possibly due to being a kde 3 program, it's just not available
[16:55] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[16:55] <sergiumihai> kubuc,the gutsy was perfect for me, there were displayconfig-gtk with that was possible to change resolution.
[16:55] <sergiumihai> ..
[16:55] <d3co> ltsp x 4
[16:55] <lesshaste> LjL, ?! that's terrible
[16:55] <sergiumihai> and hardy too
[16:55] <tomdu29> français ????????
[16:55] <LjL> lesshaste: if you can't find it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ (and i can't), it means it's not there
[16:55] <kubuc> sergiumihai, if you not choose autodetect screen, you get option to choose your resolution
[16:55] <LjL> !fr | tomdu29
[16:56] <sergiumihai> in 8.10 i can't find any tool with that it's possible to change the resoltuion..
[16:56] <lesshaste> LjL, they must be meant to replace it with something.. kile needs it
[16:56] <d3co> ok then ltsp with ubuntu? someone?
[16:56] <LjL> lesshaste: kile doesn't *claim* to need it, though, since it's not a dependency
[16:56] <rafting> wifi interface? i dont know. I have a realtek card. i have a router and a modem.
[16:56] <sergiumihai> maybe i will go with another distro
[16:57] <lesshaste> LjL, really?  hmm.. let me see if I can reconfigure kile to use something else
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: what does it need it for?
[16:57] <sergiumihai> ubuntu it's hard
[16:57] <sergiumihai> is*
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: you most likely can, it's just a PS file viewer
[16:57] <LjL> lesshaste: if all else fails, you could always make a symlink from another PS viewer to /usr/bin/kghostview
[16:58] <quizme> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:58] <quizme> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:58] <quizme> is only available from another source
[16:58] <quizme> what does that mean ?
[16:59] <LjL> quizme: that your /etc/apt/sources.list file is messed up
[16:59] <LjL> quizme: pastebin it please
[16:59] <d3co> sources.list man!!
[16:59] <FFForever> Was the problem with the 8.10 mcp67 systems freezing at boot fixed? (i am still on 8.04)
[17:00] <kubuc> quizme, build-essential is there alright, you are up 2 date, did fetch package list and updated?
[17:00] <Izinucs> does imap store messages locally like pop3 does? just wondering the best way to setup gmail on evolution
[17:00] <kubuc> quizme, talking about intrepid here
[17:00] <quizme> http://pastie.org/335876
[17:00] <quizme> 8.04
[17:00] <quizme> http://pastie.org/335876  <--- that's my sources.list
[17:00] <LjL> Izinucs, storning stuff locally or not is not something that depends on the protocol, but on what the client decides to do
[17:00] <lesshaste> LjL, so what's a good alternative viewer?
[17:01] <LjL> Izinucs: IMAP is certainly more suited to remote-only storage than POP3, though
[17:01] <joaopinto> Izinucs, no, usually you use online imap, messages are kept on the server
[17:01] <rockstarmike> :(
[17:01] <ckebabo> how can i config apache2 for python's cgi? my config is http://rafb.net/p/5r20De33.html but, it's not work for me.
[17:01] <Izinucs> LjL: joaopinto thanks!
[17:01] <LjL> quizme: that looks right, try doing "sudo apt-get update" and then install build-essential again
[17:01] <lesshaste> LjL, ggv is missing too!
[17:01] <kubuc> quizme, http://pastie.org/335877
[17:02] <LjL> lesshaste, "okular" is the standard KDE 4 PS viewer
[17:02] <ghumman> best tool for watch online tv in ubuntu?
[17:02] <quizme> ljl: ok
[17:02] <lesshaste> LjL, ok.. who knew :)
[17:02] <quizme> ljl: massive shit is happening
[17:02] <d3co> ltsp x 45
[17:02] <LjL> lesshaste: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kile will show you three recommends (the green ones), those are probably packages that will work as replacements for kghostview
[17:02] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:02] <LjL> quizme, language please
[17:03] <lesshaste> LjL, thanks!
[17:03] <quizme> ljl: i love you
[17:03] <quizme> ljl: it's working
[17:03] <quizme> apt-get is kind of on the awesome side
[17:04] <quizme> ljl: the benevolent dictator
[17:05] <kubuc> A question for a smart guy, if they live in here: Looking at my desktop it seams to run in less colors then i want. I have ATI HD2400 XT, apearently it runs on xserver-xorg-radeon, why isnt the xserver-xorg-radeonhd installed per default? And how to alter color depth?
[17:05] <amikrop> Hello. I downloaded some Greek subtitles, but when I use them with VLC or view them with Gedit, they seem gibberish. Is it an encoding issue?
[17:05] <amikrop> How could I fix it?
[17:05] <amikrop> !encoding
[17:05] <amikrop> !subtitles
[17:05] <LjL> !fishing
[17:05] <lesshaste> LjL, thanks :)
[17:05] <amikrop> !subs
[17:05] <amikrop> LjL: ok, sorry
[17:07] <quizme> ljl: thanks, it's compiling
[17:07] <Maveas> Hmm, I can't repatition my USB drive. At this moment it's partitioned in FAT32 and I want to make it ext3. I'm using gparted and got dosfstools
[17:07] <roger_> copying ubuntu to another drive=epic fail
[17:08] <Fitzz> if i have done some change to liveCD (on usb stick), like installed new softwares, will those changes be still on if i install ubuntu to hard disk?
[17:08] <kubuc> roger_, use dd, man dd howto
[17:08] <roger_> yeah i was just reading about that dd command and just was gonna ask about it
[17:09] <roger_> partimage won't image it cuz it's mounted
[17:09] <kubuc> roger_, and you cant save a mounted partition if / is being used
[17:10] <LjL> amikrop: it's probably an encoding issue, i.e. the subtitles are encoded using the greek extension of ASCII instead of using UTF-8. you might try converting them with for example "recode", or you could change the variables listed in "locale" in a terminal - and then start VLC in that terminal - to the Greek encoding (i don't know what it's called, however)
[17:10] <LjL> amikrop: you might try asking nicely in #ubuntu-gr, as well
[17:10] <roger_> partimage=epic fail
[17:10] <roger_> i only have partitions for ubunut / and swap
[17:10] <amikrop> LjL: Opening with Gedit, Save As and choose an encoding is enough to recode?
[17:10] <roger_> so / is always mounted
[17:10] <rockstarmike> so no one has ever seen this problem?
[17:11] <LjL> amikrop: only if you can get gedit to show it in proper greek in the first place
[17:11] <kubuc> roger_, for that you need to boot and run your tool from another partition, like a cd or sub stick or something
[17:11] <LjL> amikrop: (which might involve choosing an encoding when you *open* it)
[17:11] <roger_> only thing i got is the ubuntu 8.10 cd
[17:11] <amikrop> LjL: I couldn't, though I saved it as two Greek encodings
[17:12] <roger_> can i do anything with it other than install
[17:12] <kubuc> roger_, why not use kubuntu live cd or something?
[17:12] <andreus> Hello. I have a question. I have laptop(debian lenny) with wireless internet connection and a desktop(ubuntu 8.10) without. Is it possible to patch desktop to connect to internet through a crossover cable between laptop and desktop? thank you in advance.
[17:12] <roger_> i have kubuntu live cd, but i don't like kubuntu
[17:12] <LjL> amikrop: Open, Character Encoding / Add or Remove, Greek ISO-8859-7, Add
[17:12] <kubuc> roger_, any live cd will do
[17:13] <roger_> what i do with live cd
[17:13] <amikrop> LjL: I did so, but no success
[17:13] <kubuc> roger_, read the manpages ... oh boy
[17:13] <roger_> more reading, sheesh
[17:13] <kubuc> roger_, the fault is not the tool but the user ...;)
[17:14] <roger_> nah the os is, i'm never wrong :)
[17:14] <recon61> ﻿roger_: put the cd in and boot to "live cd (without changing you hard drive)" option
[17:14] <error404notfound> I have a domain name, and a live IP, how can I point that domain name to my live ip? Its only one ip, and the domain registrar needs a primary and a secondary dns for the domain, so even if I used an aurthoritative dns, it won't help...
[17:14] <ikonia> error404notfound you need someone to host your dns
[17:14] <andreus> anyone?
[17:14] <recon61> ﻿roger_: then you can work without mounting "/" from your hdd
[17:14] <ikonia> andreus: anyone what
[17:15] <error404notfound> ikonia: and that costs? so I will have to pay for the dns separately?
[17:15] <andreus> Hello. I have a question. I have laptop(debian lenny) with wireless internet connection and a desktop(ubuntu 8.10) without. Is it possible to patch desktop to connect to internet through a crossover cable between laptop and desktop? thank you in advance.
[17:15] <ikonia> error404notfound look at hosting provifders
[17:15] <adaykin> has anyone tried to install php6 on ubuntu?
[17:15] <ikonia> andreus yes thats possible
[17:15] <roger_> i boot up with this live cd then how i copy this ubuntu partition to the other one
[17:15] <ikonia> andreus: nope it's not main stream stable
[17:15] <FFForever> how can i keep my hardy kernel after upgrading?
[17:15] <kubuc> andreus, yes
[17:15] <roger_> is there something on it i can use
[17:15] <ikonia> roger_: make the parttiions and copy the data, or use dd to copy the data at a block level
[17:16] <ikonia> roger_: just a flat file copy will work
[17:16] <recon61> ﻿roger_: which partition to which??
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever: you don't really
[17:16] <kubuc> andreus, as long as the box youy connect to does routing and has a steady internet connection, why not?
[17:16] <FFForever> ikonia, i have to =D
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever then you shouldn't upgrade
[17:16] <ikonia> FFForever: the kernel versions are matched for ubuntu
[17:16] <sdlwof> man, i must not be understanding egrep. egrep -o '[http]' prints out only http, not the whole url....
[17:16] <error404notfound> ikonia: but they charge for hosting, I want to host it at my home, and free if possible.. :(
[17:17] <ikonia> error404notfound nope
[17:17] <FFForever> ikonia, due to bug #272247 i have to keep my hardy kernel XD, also i want the newer software (vlc) from ibex XD
[17:17] <ikonia> error404notfound: you need multiple dns servers
[17:17] <L0neWolf> Anybody have an idea why a flash orientated site works fine in CentOS but not Ubuntu?  It's the same flash version in both distros
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever you can't do both safley
[17:17] <FFForever> =(
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever: the kernels are matched to the versions
[17:17] <kubuc> andreus, for Gigabit adapters dont use X-over but straight cables
[17:17] <jrib> sdlwof: -o only prints what your pattern matches...
[17:17] <FFForever> ikonia, can i search ppa's for programs?
[17:17] <genii> FFForever: Then add the ibex deb-src lines and compile the newer vlc
[17:17] <ikonia> FFForever: if you want
[17:17] <sdlwof> jrgp, wouldn't the [] match the whole url?
[17:17] <sdlwof> jrib, i suppose not
[17:18] <jrib> sdlwof: no, what do you think [] does?
[17:18] <FFForever> ikonia, i cant compile vlc from source i get stuck at a dependency that just won't compile =(
[17:18] <sdlwof> it works for IP addresses '[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+'
[17:18] <roger_> ok this ubuntu is on sdc1 and i need to copy it to sda2
[17:18] <andreus> kubuc, so what has to be done?
[17:18] <ikonia> FFForever: don't recompile it then
[17:18] <jrib> sdlwof: [0-9] matches any digit 0 through 9
[17:18] <error404notfound> ikonia: any links? I am trying it on google but coming up empty handed with the string "Free DNS service"
[17:18] <kiloblaster> hello everyone!!
[17:19] <ikonia> error404notfound no, and I wouldn't trust free dns services
[17:19] <kiloblaster> My Ubuntu cannot detect any wireless... can someone please help me out ??
[17:19] <error404notfound> ikonia: and why would be that?
[17:19] <kubuc> andreus, in short: setup static ipś on booth boxes that have a dif subnet, enable routing on th ebox connected to the internet, thats basically it apart from firewalling
[17:19] <jrib> sdlwof: you want something like: 'http://[^"]*' (untested) probably.  Where " is the character that ends the url
[17:19] <ikonia> error404notfound: check the terms and conditions of your home ISP too, a lot will disconnect you if you try to host websites on your home connection
[17:19] <L0neWolf> ikonia, you wouldn't trust opendns ?
[17:19] <ikonia> L0neWolf: nope
[17:20] <L0neWolf> ikonia, how come?
[17:20] <jrib> sdlwof: anyway, I have to go now
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: don't trust free dns services
[17:20] <error404notfound> L0neWolf: I have opendns, do they offer such a thing?
[17:20] <L0neWolf> ikonia, I got that part but why?
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: bit offtopic in here
[17:20] <L0neWolf> true
[17:20] <ikonia> L0neWolf: I've see how they are run
[17:20] <adaykin> hey I'm having problems with rhythmbox working out of the box, it crashes every time I try and play a file
[17:20] <L0neWolf> error404notfound, opendns provide a few services, best to look on their website for what you want
[17:21] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:21] <genii> error404notfound: http://www.dnsserverlist.org/  has a list of dns IP
[17:21] <kiloblaster> ANYONE please help me with the wireless in Ubuntu??
[17:21] <error404notfound> L0neWolf: hmm, lemme check, I am already using them as forwarders and liking so far...
[17:21] <L0neWolf> Anybody have an idea why a flash orientated site works fine in CentOS but not Ubuntu?  It's the same flash version in both distros
[17:21] <matic_> adaykin, just use mplayer it plays quite a number of formats
[17:21] <error404notfound> genii: thanks ..
[17:21] <FFForever> ikonia, how can i search the ppa for only 8.04?
[17:22] <pidgin> can anyone tell how to change screen resolution in ubuntu 8.10
[17:22] <pidgin> i have tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and screen resolution tool from preferancies
[17:22] <DasEi> L0neWolf:32 or 64 bit ubuntu, hardy or ibex ?
[17:22] <pidgin> is there any another way to change screen resolution ?
[17:22] <genii> error404notfound:   If your dns is currently no-go their direct IP is:  69.64.156.57
[17:22] <kubuc> L0neWolf, use the tool dig to check your setups
[17:22] <boozary> hi all
[17:22] <L0neWolf> DasEi, 32 bit ibex
[17:22] <matic_> L0neWolf, is the site hosted in any of the two distros?
[17:22] <roger_> the guy that mentioned dd command, is this right dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/dev/sda2
[17:22] <error404notfound> genii: what was that no-go?
[17:22] <adaykin> matic: for music files?
[17:22] <boozary> how to i can change my hostname in terminal window ?
[17:22] <L0neWolf> matic_, no it's a separate site altogether
[17:22] <L0neWolf> kubuc, I'm not sure what you mean
[17:23] <matic_> adaykin, yeah
[17:23] <kubuc> roger_, yes, dd if=source of=destination
[17:23] <sdlwof> jrib, tested. thanks
[17:23] <recon61> ﻿pidgin: I normaly use System->Preferances->Screen Resolution
[17:23] <roger_> ok i try that
[17:23] <genii> error404notfound: EG: If you try to go to: http://www.dnsserverlist.org/    but it can't resolve the name to an IP. Then use the IP I provided
[17:23] <d3co> !ltsp
[17:23] <roger_> fix coffee catch a nap while stuff copies
[17:23] <Jacobbs> !lisp
[17:23] <kubuc> L0neWolf, install the tool called dig and use it to check all dns-ing
[17:23] <matic_> L0neWolf, am asking whether the site is hosted in any of the two?
[17:23] <Jacobbs> aww
[17:23] <AngryElf> uhm, so I want to record whatever my browser is pumping out to mp3 -- is there an app that can do that?
[17:23] <DasEi> L0neWolf:strange, works good out the box mostly;  (browser closed)   sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozplugger ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:24] <roger_> after this is done all i do is edit the fstab on other partition and add in grub entry correct
[17:24] <d3co> !edubuntuhandbook
[17:24] <L0neWolf> matic_, I said no up there  ^^^ it's a separate site to both of them
[17:24] <DasEi> !flash > L0neWolf
[17:24] <boozary> how to i can change my hostname in terminal window ? please help me
[17:24] <kubuc> L0neWolf, and dyndns.org works well and its free for non-commercial
[17:25] <ikonia> boozary: change /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[17:25] <adaykin> hey has anyone tried to install php6? I'm having problems with the sudo make install command
[17:25] <ikonia> adaykin ask in ##php
[17:25] <L0neWolf> kubuc, ahh I think you're mistaking me  :)  I was answering someone else about dns services, sorry
[17:25] <genii> boozary: Also:  sudo hostname <newhostname>
[17:25] <boozary> ok thanks ikonia
[17:25] <kiloblaster> PLEASE GUYS! i need some help with the wireless in Ubuntu... right now i am forced to use Vizta :(:(
[17:25] <boozary> thanks thanks :-)
[17:25] <kubuc> L0neWolf, oh ok
[17:25] <L0neWolf> DasEi, I'll give it a try.  thing is all other flash sites work but this one and it really confuses me when it works in CentOS but not Ubuntu
[17:26] <DasEi> L0neWolf:url ?
[17:27] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: What wireless card do you have, what version of ubuntu are you using, and what seems to be the problem?
[17:27] <DasEi> L0neWolf:could you give the url of not working flash-site ?
[17:27] <L0neWolf> DasEi, it's www.stickam.com chat to a few friends on there but only a few parts of it, let me find a more specific link on the site
[17:28] <horstle> hi
[17:28] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: i have ubuntu 8.10 with and Atheros... it cannot detect any wireless network
[17:28] <recon61> kiloblaster: you could start by working through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiTroubleshooting and the asking if you have a spicific problems, we can wave a magic wand to fix your network without some info
[17:28] <dn5a-b> hi everybody. I just installed newest ubuntu desktop and something is wrong with it. It halts at the desktop start - orange screen shows and thats about it
[17:28] <dn5a-b> any ideas how it can be fxed?
[17:28] <kubuc> recon, can you ? ;)
[17:28] <ikonia> dn5a-b got an ati card ?
[17:29] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Hold on, please.
[17:29] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: Thanks in advance :D
[17:29] <dn5a-b> ikonia: whats ati card? sry
[17:29] <dn5a-b> ah no
[17:29] <dn5a-b> :P
[17:29] <DasEi> L0neWolf:tari-cam brodcasts well, gonna reboot to 32, brb
[17:29] <rockstarmike> Anyone seen anything like this?  A lot of text on my screen is blacked out and garbled constantly...screenshots are here... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006513
[17:29] <ikonia> dn5a-b: just checking a common cause
[17:29] <ikonia> dn5a-b: as in ati video card
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: try booting into safe mode from the grub menu
[17:30] <kai> Heya there, Everytime i try to do dd if=./boot1h of=/dev/rdisk0 bs-=512 count =1 i get an error saying" resource busy" any way to fix this? (Trying to reinstall mac bootloader)
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: see what that gets you
[17:30] <recon61> ﻿kiloblaster : also look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[17:30] <ikonia> kai: make sure the disk is not in use
[17:30] <kubuc> kai, are they mounted?
[17:30] <ikonia> kai: you can't write to a disk thats in use
[17:30] <kai> ikonia, i am trying to install from disc
[17:30] <dn5a-b> ikonia: aint that gonna get me to the console?
[17:30] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Could you provide me the model number of the atheros card? It'll help me search the forums.
[17:30] <ikonia> dn5a-b: yup
[17:30] <kai> and i dont know how to unmount, :(
[17:30] <afallenhope|work> dn5a-b, yes and then you can typelspci | grep -i vga
[17:31] <kai> i was trying unmount -f /dev/diskXsY and it says unmount not a command
[17:31] <afallenhope|work> kai, umount MOUNTPOINT
[17:31] <ikonia> kai: mount -u
[17:31] <ikonia> umount sorry
[17:31] <ikonia> not unount
[17:31] <afallenhope|work> no worries ikonia I got your back :-p
[17:31] <dn5a-b> afallenhope|work: im on livecd right now, ill reboot and then be bac
[17:31] <kai> <3 I love you if this works
[17:32] <kai> "unknown special file or file system /dev/diskXsY :(
[17:32] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: ar5007eg
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: thats not a mount point
[17:32] <CURRICULUM> ANYONE there?
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: I suggest you do it from a livecd
[17:32] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: yes
[17:32] <kai> I am doing this from a live CD, ikonia
[17:32] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: you get a better response if you don't use capslock
[17:32] <Buyydee> Hey, I have a sound problem: whenever a program that uses sound (be it a game, mediaplayer, flash-firefox-plugin...) is running, the sound is locked for all other programs, often stopping them. I use Hardy 64-bit.
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: what is /dev/rdisk ?
[17:32] <kubuc> kai, mount, and look how the mountpoints are called
[17:32] <ikonia> kai: I've not seen that device before
[17:33] <kai> kubuc, i am not fimilar with mac at all..can you explain that? and ikonia, I am following the guide previously posted
[17:33] <kai> http://forum.insanelymac.com/lofiversion/index.php/%22http:/t97198.html
[17:33] <FFForever> is there anyway to keep my touchpad/mouse from crashing?, every now and then (when using the slide/scroll bar on the right) then i loose scroll functions till i reboot =(
[17:33] <ikonia> kai: what guide
[17:33] <CURRICULUM> is someone into domestic violence
[17:33] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Thanks! :-) Just a moment.
[17:33] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: please don't talk about that
[17:33] <kai> visit link from insanelymac.com up in my last post
[17:33] <ikonia> CURRICULUM: this is ubuntu support ONLY
[17:33] <L0neWolf> DasEi, back yet?
[17:34] <L0neWolf> lol  timed that well
[17:34] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: thanks to you ;) lol sorry if i didnt post it before
[17:34] <Buyydee> Hey, I have a sound problem: whenever a program that uses sound (be it a game, mediaplayer, flash-firefox-plugin...) is running, the sound is locked for all other programs, often stopping them. I use Hardy 64-bit.
[17:34] <L0neWolf> DasE1, same as DasEi ?
[17:34] <kai> Any thoughts, Kubuc ; Ikonia ?
[17:34] <Grom> is http://ubuntuforums.org/ sharing vBulettin theme to other sites?
[17:34] <DasE1> L0neWolf: yep
[17:34] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site ar eyou following
[17:35] <ikonia> Grom ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:35] <kubuc> kai, i thought you where on a ubuntu machine, not a mac
[17:35] <Grom> can I download that theme from somewhere?
[17:35] <ikonia> Grom ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:35] <kubuc> kai, but it should be simular
[17:35] <recon61> kiloblaster: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[17:35] <genii> kubuc: Ubuntu runs on mac
[17:35] <kubuc> genii, yes
[17:35] <L0neWolf> DasE1, ah ok, www.stickam.com/n3k0w0lf I went 'live' to show how it looks.  this is what it shows up to me as www.r4wr.co.uk/uploads/broken.jpg
[17:35] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: Ok, good news. :-) You  need to compile the drivers for your card and use those drivers. That should fix the problem. Here's the link: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[17:36] <genii> kubuc: That was a statement and not a question :)
[17:36] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site are you following
[17:36] <kai> http://pastebin.com/m1c1dc367
[17:36] <kubuc> genii, i run dif linux on mac also, but mac os handles alot different
[17:36] <ikonia> kai: which guide on that site are you following
[17:36] <kai> guide from here
[17:36] <kai> http://forum.insanelymac.com/lofiversion/index.php/%22http:/t97198.html
[17:36] <kiloblaster> THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH... now i shutdown Vista and try with ubuntu...thanks again :)
[17:36] <kiloblaster> bye people!!!
[17:37] <kiloblaster> FROM ITALY::::    UBUNTU RULEZ ::::::::
[17:37] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: np, here's another link, btw.
[17:37] <kubuc> genii, > tiger its more simular to linux, that is
[17:37] <recon61> the support from http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/
[17:37] <ikonia> kai the instructions you are typing are for if you are running on mac OS
[17:37] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 <- There's a section on your card there as well.
[17:38] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: Shot it :D
[17:38] <loller> can somebody tell me how to enable the sound of vmware machine
[17:38] <genii> kubuc: Yes.
[17:38] <nutzer> come you from germany kiloblaster
[17:38] <kiloblaster> tiyowan: if you ever pass by southern Italy, i owe you a beer ;)
[17:38] <kai> ikonia, I am trying to boot to mac, grub is installed and i need it replaced because Ubuntu is no longer on my computer
[17:38] <Aperculum> is there some app to create quick temporary ftp server?
[17:38] <ikonia> kai I understand but I've just told you the instructions you are following are for if you are running from  mac
[17:38] <edju> I've googled till I've gone nuts.  Kaffeine keeps reporting the dvd is encrypted, even though libdvdcss (and libdvdread) is installed.  Any pointers, solutions?
[17:39] <kai> Ikonia, Okay, so how do i do this from a live CD?
[17:39] <ikonia> kai do you have the boot loader you want to use ?
[17:39] <tiyowan> kiloblaster: np. :-) I've got a friend in Torino btw. Beautiful country, Italy. Best of luck with your wireless, mate.
[17:39] <kai> Ikonia, I was hoping to just insstall the standard mac bootloader
[17:39] <kubuc> Aperculum, vsftpd ?
[17:39] <ikonia> kai then do that then
[17:39] <L0neWolf> DasE1, as I say it's just this one thing and it bugs me so much since it works in Windows but also CentOS with the same flash plugin.
[17:39] <ikonia> kai: boot form your mac CD and use the repair options
[17:40] <kai> Ikonia I'm trying to :P that's why I am here, It's not working well... Where are the repair options? :S
[17:40] <Aperculum> kubuc, quick temporary, like, run it, share few files, and close it
[17:40] <Aperculum> no need to be on default ftp port either
[17:40] <ikonia> kai if you boot from your mac CD it starts the install phase and there should be a repair menu, people in ##apple or ##mac should know better than me
[17:40] <kubuc> Aperculum, just aptitude install it, where you are done aptitude purge it
[17:40] <kai> Okay, thanks again!
[17:41]  * myselfpt is away (bounce)
[17:41] <ra21vi> i have installed a new development server on Ubuntu server edition, and created some users, I want some chatting sort of program, so users can chat in a common room or privately .... is there some package for it,
[17:41] <ikonia> !away > myselfpt
[17:41] <ian__> anyone else having partial upgrades issues...failing on openoffice
[17:41] <ikonia> ra21vi talkd or setup a small irc server
[17:41] <ra21vi> when nothing seems feasible, i will have to install IRC server on it, so users can login and chat
[17:41] <DasE1> L0neWolf: did you try to d/l  adobe flashplyer-plugin ? they got a deb for hardy..
[17:41] <myselfpt> ikonia ?!?!?!
[17:41] <kubuc> ra21vi, you mean irc?
[17:42] <myselfpt> ubottu ?!
[17:42] <ikonia> myselfpt: read the message from ubottu
[17:42] <L0neWolf> DasE1, I tried using the hardy repo it's the same version  :/
[17:42] <myselfpt> ikonia ive got none
[17:42] <ra21vi> ikonia: well i should now be reading docs after you pointed talkd, but does talkd allow common room like we are here chatting..
[17:42] <ikonia> myselfpt: it's a private message
[17:42] <ikonia> !away >myselfpt
[17:42] <ra21vi> kubuc: i am searching for now, and maybe I will install irc
[17:42] <myselfpt> ikonia again, ive got none
[17:43] <ckebabo> how can i config apache2 for python's cgi? my config is http://rafb.net/p/5r20De33.html but, it's not work for me.
[17:43] <ikonia> !away | myselfpt
[17:43] <myselfpt> ok ok
[17:43] <ikonia> ra21vi talk is one on one yes
[17:43] <myselfpt> got it
[17:43] <myselfpt> sorry
[17:43] <myselfpt> gonna fix it
[17:43] <FloodBot1> myselfpt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <ikonia> thanks
[17:43] <kubuc> ra21vi, a bit of work to setup, but i use exactly this for that: http://www.phpbots.org/
[17:44] <ian__> anyone else having partial upgrades issues...failing on openoffice
[17:44] <ra21vi> kubuc: ok
[17:44] <L0neWolf> DasE1, I just worked out what you mean, I'll grab the .deb from Adobe's site and see if it makes a difference
[17:44] <kubuc> ra21vi, bonus: nothing is installed on the clients
[17:44] <kubuc> ra21vi, works through there webbrowser
[17:45] <evans2088> has anyone been having trouble with the latest flash player other than me?
[17:45] <quizme> apt-get install emacs?
[17:45] <quizme> is that how to install emacs ?
[17:46] <kubuc> quizme, use aptitude now a days
[17:46] <kai> ikonia, kubuc, I was booted from ##mac
[17:46] <tiyowan> evans2088: Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:46] <quizme> kubuc: aptitude install emacs ?
[17:46] <roger_> i repartioned a drive, in terminal i typed blkid and it still shows old id's, how i make it to current
[17:46] <derdon> quizme: no, definetely not! with this command you install vim!
[17:46] <evans2088> 8.10
[17:46] <ikonia> kai: why ?
[17:47] <kai> I told them i was installing mac on PC
[17:47] <kubuc> quizme, basically yes, depends on what frills you all want: aptitude search emacs ...
[17:47] <quizme> derdon: is vim bad ?
[17:47] <ikonia> kai: ahhh and you'll be removed from here too if you talk about that
[17:47] <kai> =[
[17:47] <ikonia> kai: there is illegal, I thought you where runningo n  mac
[17:47] <derdon> quizme: yes, and emacs too! only cat is the right editor
[17:47] <kai> =[ darnit, i didn't knoww...sory
[17:47] <tiyowan> evans2088: Same here. No problems, though. Which site are you trying to use?
[17:48] <powertool08> ikonia: hackintoshes are illegal?!?!
[17:48] <quizme> derdon: ok, i consider you to be a space alien now
[17:48] <kubuc> emy favorite nano
[17:48] <citronbleu-v_> hello, i have firefox which crash often
[17:48] <ikonia> powertool08: yes
[17:48] <quizme> derdon: what is cat ?
[17:48] <evans2088> tiyowan: i've been having trouble with any streaming video that runs on flash, youtube in particular
[17:48] <derdon> quizme: the best editor
[17:48] <citronbleu-v_> it's normal ?
[17:48] <tiyowan> ikonia: He's trying to install the mac OS on PC?
[17:48] <powertool08> ikonia: hmm, any reason other than not buying mac's hardware in addition to software?
[17:49] <ikonia> tiyowan: yes
[17:49] <quizme> aptitude is cool.  it turned my terminal into a gui !
[17:49] <ikonia> powertool08: the license only allows it on apple hardware
[17:49] <powertool08> ikonia: ahh, guess that would do it
[17:49] <quizme> derdon: apt-get install cat ?
[17:49] <trancefat> is emacs very difficult to use?
[17:49] <balau> evans2088, what kind of trouble? the browser hangs when you close the page?
[17:49] <quizme> trancefat: i like emacs
[17:49] <tiyowan> evans2088: Hold on, I'm checking.
[17:49] <kubuc> quizme, cat is already installed (bas-packages)
[17:49] <trancefat> quizme: i ve been using eclipse all along
[17:50] <kubuc> quizme, man cat
[17:50] <trancefat> quizme: just wondering hows it to work on emcs
[17:50] <quizme> trancefat: eclipse is advanced alien technology
[17:50] <quizme> trancefat: it's going to feel like you're in the stone age compared to eclipse.
[17:50] <balau> citronbleu-v_, does it crash at particular times?
[17:50]  * kubuc mumbles eclipse has nice php plugins too
[17:50] <evans2088> balau:no, the browser freezes b4 the video loads
[17:50] <webas> hi..i cant find a notebook if its supported by ubuntu/kubuntu.. ?
[17:51] <trancefat> quizme: is emacs good for intermediate as3/php programmer
[17:51] <balau> citronbleu-v_, for example, always with the same sites?
[17:51] <quizme> kubuc: how do i run cat as an editor ?
[17:51] <citronbleu-v_> no
[17:51] <hc> So i have my laptop and normal pc, identically configured. However,, there is a problem with the laptop. Whenever i watch a video, there'll be a few seconds of pauze every few minutes, where the audio plays, but the video freezes along with the desktop.
[17:51] <citronbleu-v_> i have a error message
[17:51] <kubuc> quizme, i did not state you can ....
[17:51] <quizme> trancefat: for as3 you don't want to use the adobe IDEs ?
[17:51] <tiyowan> evans2088: Checked out youtube. Everything works fine, here.
[17:51] <quizme> kubuc: holy hell, you are a space alien.
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: obviously not
[17:52] <evans2088> tiyowan: what version of flash do you have?
[17:52] <kubuc> quizme, no, i explained that it was already installed
[17:52] <quizme> trancefat: you're going to compile the SDK ?
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: i ve been using flash develop which is really cool
[17:52] <citronbleu-v_> which say : firefox is already run
[17:52] <kubuc> quizme, someone else told that
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: of course thts on win
[17:52] <hc> !enter | citronbleu-v_
[17:52] <quizme> trancefat: oh yeah...
[17:52] <trancefat> quizme: is emacs only for advanced users?
[17:53] <tiyowan> evans2088: Flash v10.
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: emacs is for old people like Donald Knuth
[17:53] <powertool08> webas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: it's easy to use when u get used to it
[17:53] <recon61> ﻿hc: suggest you check that you have the video card hardware drivers installed on the laptop, and install the gstream-10-ugly codex , try turn compiz off if on.
[17:53] <tiyowan> evans2088: Using it on firefox v3.0
[17:53] <trancefat> quizme: what do u use it for
[17:53] <Shrini> My usb is not mounting automatically. why
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: it will make your left pinky hurt.
[17:53] <kubuc> trancefat, you maybe want to delve into mc and mcedit too, i use that for quick and dirty projects, or the php plugin for eclipse if you need more
[17:53] <hc> recon61, let me check on that package. Compiz makes no difference.
[17:53] <powertool08> webas: also, if everything works when you run a live cd its supported and you only need to look into things which don't autoconfigure
[17:53] <quizme> trancefat: i use it for editing files on the server side.  are you going to be using a gui ?
[17:54] <dimebar> trancefat: if you search for emacs tutorials they'll soon give you an idea of if its for you
[17:54] <evans2088> tiyowan: yea, firefox v3.0, but i dont think i have flash v10
[17:54] <webas> powertool08 i dont have notebook yet..im just thinking which to choose from many.. so it can be supported fully
[17:54] <AlexOnRuby> hey ^^ i am on ubuntu, and i'm very happy
[17:54] <tiyowan> evans2088: Did you install flash using sudo apt-get nonfreeflash?
[17:54] <AlexOnRuby> i now realize vista really sucks !
[17:55] <hc> recon61, the drivers for my graphics card are also installed, as is that package. Note that i have it with every video application, including if i stream it of my other pc that has no probs.
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: ok thanks
[17:55] <quizme> trancefat: i use OS X, and program in Ruby, so i use Textmate.  i just use emacs for servers side edits when i have to.  i prefer it over emacs.
[17:55] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:55] <hc> recon61, and even with vlc i have it. So its not a codec problem.
[17:55] <Shrini> ﻿AlexOnRuby: yes. ubuntu rocks
[17:55] <quizme> trancefat: i mean i prefer emacs over vi
[17:55] <tiyowan> evans2088: Type about:plugins in a firefox window. Do you see the flash plugin in there?
[17:55] <quizme> trancefat: good luck.
[17:55] <Tw|sT> All OS's suck until you tweak them.  I've not yet found an OS that I installed and used it as packaged.
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: i ve never used vi either
[17:55] <trancefat> quizme: it s scary
[17:55] <kubuc> quizme, trancefat i us enano on servers
[17:55] <AlexOnRuby> but i have a problem :) how do i install a program on ubuntu without an exe? :)
[17:56] <kubuc> s/enano/nano
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> i got only a db2 archive
[17:56] <dimebar> trancefat: vim comes with a inbuilt tutorial called vimtutor
[17:56] <Shrini> ﻿AlexOnRuby: use synaptic package manager
[17:56] <quizme> trancefat: if you get really good at emacs, you can do serious stuff and be really productive.  but you hae to be kinda hardcore to get to that level.
[17:56] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:56] <hc> Tw|sT, linux is a box with bricks. You build anything you want from it and use it then. Would you be proud to show you have  a box with bricks or would you be proud to show you build a castle from it?
[17:56] <Veinor> Is there a way to configure whether gedit's file picker shows dotfiles by default?
[17:56] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: you have a few choices, go to Applications: Add/Remove, there's a big selection there
[17:56] <Shrini> ﻿AlexOnRuby: what program you need?
[17:56] <balau> Shrini, about your usb, does it mount when you do lsusb inside a terminal?
[17:56] <quizme> trancefat: good night i'm out. good luck!
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> last fm
[17:56] <AlexOnRuby> http://www.last.fm/download from here
[17:56] <biophile> I keep getting an error when I try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[17:56] <genii> hc: I like that metaphor
[17:56] <Tw|sT> but, most ppl judge Vista on its installation state, rather than tweaking it to work the way they want it to.  Ubuntu/Kubuntu are really no different.  I love them both, but I tweak the hell out of em before I use them
[17:57] <tiyowan> biophile: What error do you get?
[17:57] <DasE1> L0neWolf: interesting...
[17:57] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: you could also use Synaptic or go to www.getdeb.net, they supply .DEBs which are like the Ubuntu version of .exe
[17:57] <hc> genii, thank you.
[17:57] <Shrini> balau: it shouws on lsusb, but not mounting automatically
[17:57] <trancefat> dimebar: is vim installed by default on ubuntu 8.10
[17:57] <biophile> tiyowan: dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[17:57] <kubuc> biophile, what you try to do?
[17:57] <Veinor> ah, found it
[17:57] <nibbler> Tw|sT: total bs :D
[17:57] <dimebar> Veinor: right click -> filter -> show hidden
[17:57] <L0neWolf> DasE1, you see it as I do or how it should?
[17:57] <Xero> AlexOnRuby: the Last.fm player is in Add/Remove =]
[17:57] <evans2088> tiyowan: i have flash v9.0
[17:57] <trancefat> kubuc: is nano for advanced users onle=y?
[17:57] <Tw|sT> nibbler:  how so?
[17:57] <hc> Xero, .deb is not equal to a .exe, but more as an installer.
[17:57] <Veinor> but on a related note, whenever I open ~ in the file picker, it takes like 10 seconds
[17:57] <kubuc> trancefat, nano = simple
[17:57] <AlexOnRuby> xero : really ? :] thats cool
[17:57] <balau> Shrini, what I have on my ubuntu is that a flash drive does not mount automatically, but when I do lsusb it mounts by itself.
[17:57] <Veinor> to populate the list, anyway
[17:57] <gibranlp> hey guys, anyone knows hot to add the global addressbook in evolution?
[17:57] <dimebar> trancefat: yes but its a minimal install; do 'sudo aptitude install vim-gnome'
[17:57] <kubuc> trancefat, no frills
[17:58] <trancefat> kubuc: does it have code complete/highlighting for php, as3
[17:58] <tiyowan> Tw|st: Well...Vista is almost 50 mil. lines of code. *nix is 10.5. But I think this discussion is better off in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:58] <DasE1> L0neWolf: I had a few sites with probs, now went to synaptic searching for flash and choosin about 13 additional packets (swf n stuff), now the work !
[17:58] <trancefat> dimebar: ok
[17:58] <Shrini> balau: for me, t is not working
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, for that i use mcedit = also simple to use
[17:58] <trancefat> kubuc: is that for linux
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, part of mc
[17:58] <recon61> ﻿hc: cant think of anything obvious then other that to check system processes to see if anything is spiking usage on your system
[17:58] <biophile> kubuc: I tried to configure dpkg because it wasn't working during software update
[17:58] <kubuc> trancefat, part of ubuntu/kubuntu and many other
[17:59] <tiyowan> evans2088: You need to remove the flash plugin, visit another site that uses flash, it'll prompt you to install the plugin automatically. Should fix the problem.
[17:59] <Jo_> could somebody help me configure evolution for Gmail(IMAP) ?
[17:59] <trancefat> kubuc: ok... thanks for th info
[17:59] <Veinor> yeah, the gnome file picker is S-L-O-W
[17:59] <kubuc> Biolunar, just do aptitude reinstall dpkg [period]
[17:59] <hc> recon61, unfortunately, also done that. No high CPU usage, in fact it even drops then (remote terminal with top to check it). Also disabled screen saver and other options like automatic backlight dimming. No luck.
[17:59] <evans2088> tiyowan: i feel bad asking this, but i cant figure out how to remove it, i've been trying to for a little while now i can only disable it for some reason
[17:59] <kubuc> trancefat, yw
[17:59] <NicEXE> I just installed blender from add/remove. the problem is that i get version 2.48a and the latest is 2.48a . how do i get the latest version?
[18:00] <Shrini> jo_: http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[18:00] <CelticLord> le peuple :)
[18:00] <dimebar> Jo_: http://weakish.int.eu.org/tutorial/configure-evolution-for-gmail.xhtml
[18:01] <jedi06> does ubuntu not support certain graphics cards?
[18:01] <balau> evans2088, apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree does not work?
[18:01] <tiyowan> evans2088: That's a good question, actually. Hmmm...did you install flash from the medibuntu repo?
[18:01] <hc> jedi06, please elaborate. Why do you think this?
[18:01] <Veinor> hmm, KDE seems to work better
[18:01] <biophile> tiyowan: dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system
[18:01] <Xero> NicEXE: the lastest version is available here http://www.getdeb.net/app/Blender
[18:01] <Jo_> thanks a million, i'll try!
[18:01] <tiyowan> biophile: Hang on.
[18:01] <kubuc> jedi06, it supports almost all, but does not have ahrdware accelaration for all cards
[18:02] <Shrini> ﻿ jedi06: it supports most of cards
[18:02] <jedi06> dell is telling me that with the ubuntu version of studio 15 it won't run smoothly with 5800 core 2 and faster ram and upgrade cards
[18:02] <kubuc> jedi06, HW accel is still ... a bit a mess
[18:02] <evans2088> tiyowan:actually no, to be honest im not sure where it came from, i had never had a problem before but then suddenly it was "updating" to v9.0 and now nothing works
[18:02] <jedi06> I'm online chatting with this guy now
[18:02] <recon61> ﻿hc: some sort of paging / hdd issue maybe?
[18:02] <NicEXE> Xero: installing blender from a deb file is risky
[18:02] <tiyowan> evans2088: What balau said. sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree from the terminal. Then reinstall it again. Then open up firefox, and go to a flash site. Then you'll get the you need a plugin blah to view this site.
[18:03] <jedi06> what about the processor and ram? would it make any difference if you had a 5750 core 2 or an 5800 core 2
[18:03] <hc> recon61, don't have a swap area, 3gb of rams which is used just over 10% (302meg), a 7200rpm HD in it, 1Gb network to stream ... doubt it
[18:03] <jedi06> only difference is the FSB and ram speed
[18:03] <hc> recon61, it's really annoying :(
[18:03] <tiyowan> evans2088: Do you know whether you have the medibuntu repos enabled?
[18:03] <kubuc> jedi06, if you have the bucks any fast cpu has huge beneifits on a desktop, but on a small server it doesnt really mather that much
[18:03] <Xero> NicEXE: as far as i'm aware that's how the versions in the repos work, though... if you don't want to install from a DEB blender.org has linux tarballs
[18:04] <Izinucs> jedi06: souldn't
[18:04] <Izinucs> jedi06: what graphics card?
[18:04] <jedi06> that's what he is telling me right now
[18:04] <joaopinto> NicEXE, it's risky depending on the source you have used, the same applies to compiling from the source ;)
[18:05] <allsystemsarego> how do I check what is being installed along with ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:05] <Xero> joaopinto, thanks for clearing that up
[18:05] <joaopinto> allsystemsarego, apt-cache show ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:05] <Izinucs> jedi06: there use to be quirks with 800 mHZ ram.  not sure if that's been ironed out or not.. I'm running it on my desktop 800/ddr2
[18:05] <Xero> NicEXE, getdeb.net is a very reliable source, there should be no problems downloading from them
[18:05] <tiyowan> biophile: Can you run apt-get? Or do you get errors with that as well?
[18:05] <kubuc> jedi06, if you know how to config any linux will happely run with low resources so
[18:06] <biophile> tiyowan: no
[18:06] <tiyowan> biophile: What you need to do is to run fsck (filesystem checker utility) off a livecd.
[18:06] <allsystemsarego> joaopinto, thanks
[18:07] <biophile> tiyowan: bother. thanks
[18:07] <Izinucs> kubuc: I don't think he has issues with low resources. I think he on a chat with Dell trying to order a machine with ubuntu preinstalled
[18:07] <nnull> if im trying to get tv out to work via s-video on legacy drivers does using the s-video little dangle cable converter to s-video work better then just plugging straight into s-video?
[18:07] <jedi06> well what about wireless n
[18:07] <kubuc> Izinucs, ah ic
[18:07] <tiyowan> evans2088: Any luck with your flash problem?
[18:07] <jedi06> 256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450     $75 dollar upgrade
[18:07] <kubuc> Izinucs, i have ordered just a dell opitplex 755 with intel on board and 4G & E8500 it rocks with ubuntu
[18:08] <d3co> where I find ubuntu-alternatives cd ???
[18:08] <kubuc> Izinucs, skip the crappy ATI cards
[18:08] <jedi06> it has hardy installed on the dell studio 15
[18:08] <nnull> im using legacy drivers only way i could get the computer to recognise there was a tv was to unplug the monitor and let it use the tv as primary.. but the max resolution is 640x480 @ 60 hertz and wont go any higher in screen resolution
[18:08] <Drk_Guy> !alternate d3co
[18:08] <d3co> where can  I find ubuntu-alternatives cd ???
[18:08] <Drk_Guy> !alternate
[18:08] <joaopinto> d3co, www.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <kubuc> jedi06, yes, you simply can installed intrepid on it, did that myself
[18:08] <evans2088> tiyowan: the package installer just said there is a later version already installed, and its flash v9 is still there
[18:09] <jedi06> Izinucs ^^
[18:09] <d3co> where can  I find ubuntu alternative cd ??? for my ltsp server
[18:09] <dn5a-b> Hi everyone (once again), I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and the desktop doesnt start. The orange screen shows and then nothing happens. When i try to boot it live, the black screen shows with a 'clock' cursor and it halts once again. Please help
[18:09] <Drk_Guy> X isuues
[18:09] <jedi06> kubuc but is it compatible with the  256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450  and 800mhz fsb and ram
[18:09] <Drk_Guy> !server
[18:09] <Izinucs> jedi06: see kubuc 's comment above.. I don't know much about the studio 15..
[18:10] <kubuc> jedi06, not really (yet)
[18:10] <d3co> !alternate
[18:10] <jedi06> ok kubuc what about the card?
[18:10] <kubuc> jedi06, i am just trying to get thta card running xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd is not ready for that card yet
[18:10] <jimmy__> ddc gateway
[18:10] <Drk_Guy> ATi Sucks for Linux
[18:11] <dn5a-b> anyone?
[18:11] <Izinucs> jedi06: I have a vostro 14 with a nvidia card.. it works great even though the windows install keep crashing.. the ubuntu side keeps going.
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, that goes for HD 2400 XT as well
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, stick to the intel from dell and you wont regret it
[18:11] <kubuc> jedi06, the onboard intel cards work out of the box
[18:12] <jedi06> of course I'm getting the intel. but the graphics card sucks it has the the intgrated intel
[18:12] <d3co> !minimal
[18:12] <kubuc> jedi06, and tell DELL that they sould sell ubuntu PCs in Holand too! ;)
[18:13] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <hc> so i've got this laptop of mine, runs perfect. However, when i watch a video, it randomly stutters for a few seconds every few minutes, which is plainly annoying. I've disabled screensaver, automatic powersaving options, backlight dimming, cpu speed adjustments, codecs are fine, no hogging on CPU or memory. Please advice (sorry for the long story)
[18:13] <simplenewb> What is a good podcast downloader for linux to replace itunes? I've tried several in the past and they all were plagued with corrupt file that would have to later be re-downloaded. Any suggestions?
[18:13] <dennda> songbird?
[18:13] <Drk_Guy> !podcast
[18:13] <DasE1> hc:try to copy it to hd first
[18:13] <Xero> hc: please elaborate, do you mean flash video on sites like youtube or video you have saved to your hd?
[18:13] <jedi06> Kubuc what about the wireless N?
[18:14] <hc> Xero, .avi video's on my HD.
[18:14] <Izinucs> simplenewb: the built in Rhythmbox works fine for that adn will sync to portable devices.
[18:14] <hc> DasE1, it is on my HD.
[18:14] <DasE1> saw it, hc, using vlc ?
[18:14] <kubuc> jedi06, reagrding ATI cards please look at this: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[18:14] <jimmy__> Xero, most flash videos will auto save to your tmp folder
[18:14] <hc> Xero, DasE1, note --> using VLC.
[18:14] <kubuc> jedi06, works out of the box with most cards
[18:14] <DasE1> hc : basic system facts ?
[18:15] <kubuc> jedi06, WPA2 can be tricky so
[18:15] <Xero> hc: have you tried any alternate media players, such as MPlayer or Totem?
[18:15] <roger_> ok i copied ubuntu partition to another drive, but i check for uuid to fix the fstab and the terminal shows same id as the drive it's on now, how i fix that
[18:15] <kubuc> jedi06, but WPA1 works
[18:15] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:15] <simplenewb> lzinucs: Ok I'll give it another go last time I tried it things didn't go well but thanks.
[18:15] <hc> Xero, yes, same result. Streamed video of a working pc also stutters. (using vlc via tunneled SSH).
[18:15] <pavi> hi all
[18:15] <DasE1> roger_: sudo blkid shows uuids of your partis
[18:15] <jedi06> well i going to put xp and vista on it so
[18:16] <hc> DasE1, amd, 1.8Ghz X2, 3Gb ram, 7200rpm 120Gb HD, Nvidia Geforce 7000M 256Meg Gfx card .
[18:16] <jedi06> Ok what graphics card do you suggest with ubuntu?
[18:16] <pavi> I deleted my /var/apt/cache directory .. how do I fix it?
[18:16] <roger_> DasE1 that's where i got the id's from, they showing the same and they shouldn't be
[18:16] <jedi06> cheapeast one?
[18:16] <Veinor> is there any way to speed up the GTK file picker? it's incredibly slow for me
[18:16] <DasE1> hc: drivers for grfics card installed ?
[18:17] <odeland> hello, I'm kind of a newbie and I'm wondering if it's possible to have both libstdc++.so.5 and .6 on the same box?
[18:17] <hc> DasE1, yes. Wow plays fine with them, decent fps on it (around 30).
[18:17] <jedi06> cheapest one for a laptop?
[18:17] <Photoguy> !WEBCAM
[18:17] <evans2088> anyone know how to remove the flash plugin from firefox, i need to reinstall it but i cant seem to remove it
[18:17] <Izinucs> jedi06: mine uses the nvidia 6xxx series and works fine
[18:18] <jedi06> Izinucs how much?
[18:18] <Izinucs> jedi06: it's been over a year since I got it so I don't remember
[18:18] <Xero> evans2088: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/uninstall.html
[18:18] <cuci> Hi folks! I have 2 wire net-connections, what program should I be using so that the net settings get automagally changed?
[18:18] <recon61> hc: do you get the issue with all movie files and dvds ?
[18:18] <DasE1> hc: no certain idea then, tried looking in /var/log/syslog after opening a vd ? tried proper vid ? (some avis amongst other formats can be bad)
[18:19] <evil-bob> i'm kinda looking for a torrent site with unbuntu cause my connection sucks an fire fox never resumes a download
[18:19] <hc> recon61, no exceptions.
[18:19] <cuci> something if not neta then netb
[18:19] <evans2088> xero: thanx
[18:19] <avis> has anyone see a bug effect with ATI drivers in intrepid where while playing a video, if totem is moved, there remains a snapshot of the video screen where the window once was -- doesn't show the desktop.  any way to fix this ?
[18:19] <Ienorand> Hia, seems like Symantec is complaining about a pdf-file attack from the ubuntu.com website, anyone know anything about this? I have recently updated Sym. and every time i reload the ubuntu.com page Sym. says something like "an intrusion attack was averted"...
[18:20] <Xero> evil-bob: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[18:20] <MrCollins> !cp directory
[18:20] <hc> DasE1, tried the same (exact same vid, no copies what so ever) on a different pc from a USB stick. It runs fine on that pc. That same vid with the same stick runs bugged on my laptop. copy speed is good, around 20meg/s, on both pc and laptop. recon61
[18:20] <kubuc> avis, yes
[18:20] <powertool08> MrCollins: cp -hR or something to copy a directory recursively, check with cp --help
[18:20] <jedi06> I will be paying 869 for a ubuntu dell studio 15.  1920x1200 screen is only reason I'm considiring it.
[18:20] <Photoguy> How can I make a Logitech webcam work on Ubuntu?
[18:20] <allsystemsarego> evil-bob: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:20] <sken> lol
[18:20] <mircmac> Anybody care to take a stab at a intel3954 issue?
[18:21] <sken> hello guys
[18:21] <avis> kubuc:  do you know of a fix for that kubuc ?
[18:21] <MrCollins> quick one: how do I do cp of a dir to another location?  I am passing this command:  cp /$DIRECTORY$ /home/user/$NEWDIRECTORY$
[18:21] <dn5a-b> Last call. i just installed ubuntu 8.10 and the desktop doesnt start. Orange screen shows and thats about it. When i boot it live, the black screen shows with a 'waiting' cursor and it halts once again. Moreover Ubuntu 7.* live boots and works well. ANyone knows whats going on or how to fix the problem? Thank you
[18:21] <sken> did you know what i realised now?
[18:21] <kubuc> avis, for the opensource drivers for most R600 and up cards the driver is not ready for Xvideo, the prop drivers form SATI sucks
[18:21] <MrCollins> powertool08, so it would be cp -hR /dir /home/user/dir  ??
[18:21] <hc> powertool08, MrCollins, cp -R, dont think there's need for the h in there.
[18:21] <newmansan> hey guys. I just installed the compiz fuzion packages, now how do I enable it?
[18:22] <MrCollins> hc what is the h function?
[18:22] <Izinucs> jedi06: you better do some reading about the studio 15 and ubuntu http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dell+studio+15+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&aq=0&oq=dell+studio+15+u
[18:22] <jedi06> But it has a crappy intel ingrated graphics. and fsb is only 667. is only doubts i had
[18:22] <kubuc> avis, you only way is through standard X with opensource drivers but the video chokes a bit sometimes
[18:22] <powertool08> MrCollins: yes, and like hc, probably don't need the h, i just remembered using it at one point but forget what its for
[18:22] <Ximal> is there anything out there besides tor that i can use ?
[18:22] <avis> thank you kubuc
[18:22] <kubuc> avis, reagrding ATI cards please look at this: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[18:22] <MrCollins> thank you powertool08  and hc
[18:22] <hc> MrCollins, just checked, it makes it follow command line symbolic links, and has to be a capital H. No need for it, don't use it.
[18:23] <aleks_> всем привет
[18:23] <MrCollins> hc, thank you.
[18:23] <Ximal> that would include anonymization ?
[18:23] <kubuc> avis, it can come soon so (i hope)
[18:23] <powertool08> !ru
[18:23] <aleks_> у кого  есть man  на русском для bash?
[18:23] <sken> many setting of ubuntu are stolen from vista and mac os x lol
[18:24] <LjL> aleks_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[18:24] <MrCollins> hc would 'mv' be like the 'Cut' when I right click on  a file?
[18:24] <sken> it's ridiculous
[18:24] <hc> DasE1, recon61, any thoughts?
[18:24] <ardchoille> !ru | aleks_
[18:24] <hc> MrCollins, correct.
[18:24] <MrCollins> hc, how do I learn more about the command line?
[18:24] <hc> !cli | MrCollins
[18:24] <ardchoille> !terminal | MrCollins
[18:24] <recon61> hc: have you tried recording a movie using web cam and see if the problem is there as well. also w32codex might help
[18:25] <DasE1> hc: take a look /var/log/syslog
[18:25] <MrCollins> hc thank you ardchoille thank you
[18:25] <nnull> when i try to load nvidia-settings it says x driver isnt in use, but in hardware drivers its in use, yet cant open nvidia-settings, tells me to run nvidia-xconfig, inturn removes nvidia-settings lol
[18:25] <hc> DasE1, done that, nothing in there that can indicate a problem.
[18:25] <MrCollins> without you guys around I would have quit a long time ago :)
[18:25] <Veinor> is there any way to change what monitor is assigned to screen 0 and what one's assigned to screen 1?
[18:25] <ardchoille> MrCollins: :)
[18:26] <aleks_> LjL: спасибо
[18:26] <hc> recon61, let me install that package and check again. A second.
[18:26] <ardchoille> aleks_: Пожалуйста
[18:26] <MOras> hi anyone to help me with xubuntu 6.06. I click on Applications but the list won't show
[18:26] <Izinucs> Veinor: you need to look at instructions for xrandr.. also ..just maybe.. granr will allow you to do it graphically instead of by the command line.
[18:26] <Izinucs> *grandr
[18:26] <Veinor> huh, figured it out :D
[18:27] <nnull> anyone???
[18:27] <ardchoille> MOras: join #xubuntu
[18:27] <LasBuntu> what's a good package for a webcam on a notebook?
[18:28] <henry-nicolas> LasBuntu: what's the webcam name ?
[18:28] <LasBuntu> hrrm, dunno, it's built into my Acer Aspire One
[18:28] <henry-nicolas> so, what's the complete computer name ?
[18:29] <henry-nicolas> anyway, try cheese to see if it works out of the box
[18:29] <LasBuntu> henry-nicolas, dmesg says "Acer crystal eye webcam"
[18:29] <kubuc> henry-nicolas, i cant help you here but i use vlc to recard my webcam (tip)
[18:29]  * LasBuntu feels good that she figured that out, lol
[18:29] <jcliff> I have a farm of about 800 ubuntu servers and do not want to be sshing into each one weekly or whatever to make sure security packages are installed ok or whatever is there a better way to remotely administer such large numbers of ubuntu boxen?
[18:29] <sken> many settings of ubuntu are stolen from mac os x and vista dude
[18:29] <Photoguy> Is it the .03 or 1.3 mp version?
[18:29] <jcliff> for just package updates?
[18:29] <LjL> sken: do you have a support question?
[18:29] <ardchoille> Lasivian: good job :)
[18:30] <jcliff> (ps they *Were* going to be windows server 2008 boxes ;) )
[18:30] <Lasivian> grep is godly, I wish windows had that kind of function
[18:30] <kubuc> sken, or was it otherwise around? saw that too ;)
[18:30] <jcliff> Lasivian: cygwin+grep?
[18:30] <MrCollins> how do I know which process I want to kill from command line say for instance 'ies4linux' browser... how I kill it?
[18:30] <Izinucs> sken: this is off topic and likely to spark an "I know better than you" war.. take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:30] <MrCollins> psd?
[18:30] <MrCollins> is it ps -aux
[18:31] <henry-nicolas> I'm trying to access a remote sane via the net backend. Using scanimage -L works ok, but sane-find-scanner doesn't, any idea ?
[18:31] <Pici> MrCollins: Should be a wine process.
[18:31] <sken> hey shut up
[18:31] <Izinucs> !language | sken
[18:31] <gythred> haha, nice
[18:31] <jared555> is there a good option for centrally managing a few ubuntu desktops that is free?
[18:31] <hc> recon61, i'm going to try it again. I'll see if it goes wrong again and return should it happen. If not, you have my thanks.
[18:31] <nnull> when i try to load nvidia-settings it says x driver isnt in use, but in hardware drivers its in use, yet cant open nvidia-settings, tells me to run nvidia-xconfig, inturn removes nvidia-settings lol
[18:31] <recon61> hc np, good luck
[18:32] <Izinucs> jared555: sure.. another install of ubuntu :)
[18:32]  * kubuc says, the world will prolly not end by eveil, but by stupidity ....
[18:33] <jared555> :P is their out of the box support for nvidia 3d rendering or do you have to get the drivers/compile the kernel module?
[18:33] <mircmac> ubuntu wireless can see wap, wap log shows a connect from the MAC address, dns is defined, gateway defined, can't ping wap or anything on the wap's network.
[18:34] <Drk_Guy> jared555: you have to install drivers due to nvidia's legal restrictions
[18:34] <kubuc> mircmac, firewall?
[18:34] <recon61> ﻿jared555: you have to get drivers, goto system->admin->hardware
[18:36] <Next1> Help please, I am trying to install clamav I get the following message Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/clamav/clamav-base_0.92.1~dfsg2-1.1ubuntu0.4_all.deb  403 Forbidden
[18:36] <recon61> ﻿mircmac: try ifconfig and see if you got an ip address from wap
[18:36] <Lasivian> cheese has the camera listed with the right name, but displays nothing, using 8.10
[18:36] <nnull> when i try to load nvidia-settings it says x driver isnt in use, but in hardware drivers its in use, yet cant open nvidia-settings, tells me to run nvidia-xconfig, inturn removes nvidia-settings lol
[18:37] <nnull> recon61¬ any idea mate?
[18:38] <newmansan> how do i set compiz fuzion settings so that I get the whole cube effect? I want to be able grab the cube and rotate it on a whim. How do I do that?
[18:38] <nnull> newmansan¬ its all in ccsm settings
[18:38] <nesakysiu> installed cuetools on ubuntu but cant find them where to start them any clues?
[18:38] <nnull> newmansan¬ and its a good idea to save backup profles too dude incase something doesnt agree with your system
[18:39] <MrCollins|Home> weird... all of a sudden I couldnt do jack and I had to reboot my box.
[18:39] <newmansan> but that's just it, i have dektop cube enables, but only one desktop
[18:39] <mircmac> recon61: the ip for the wap and the laptop are fixed, not dhcp. I have a XP box that works fine. It is an older wap that only does 802.11b
[18:39] <nnull> newmansan¬ change the number of desktops in the general settings at the top of ccsm
[18:40] <nnull> im about to install xp because hours after seeking help ive got none on my problem, and i being forced into blashempy!
[18:40] <darkhamm> ragazzi, scusatemi, il comando da terminale per riloggarsi come user da root
[18:40] <jcliff> nnull: what is the problem?
[18:41] <nnull> jcliff¬ when i try to load nvidia-settings it says x driver isnt in use, but in hardware drivers its in use, yet cant open nvidia-settings, tells me to run nvidia-xconfig, inturn removes nvidia-settings lol
[18:41] <jcliff> nnull: this is the proprietary nvidia drivers correct?
[18:41] <nnull> using legacy drivers on tnt2 ultra pro 64 meg (king of its day)
[18:41] <recon61> ﻿﻿mircmac: is the network encrypted? not sure about static ip addresses , you my have a IP address but the router might not be recognising it.
[18:41] <tomdu29> fr
[18:41] <tomdu29> ?
[18:41] <jcliff> nnull: have you tried restarting, also?
[18:41] <soundray> !fr | tomdu29
[18:41] <nnull> jcliff¬  yea many times
[18:42] <Lasivian> odd, I know cheese was working on the netbook image I was using before I installed from scratch, so something must work
[18:42] <jcliff> or lsmod / removing the nvidia kernel module before doing any of this?
[18:43] <allsystemsarego> nesakysiu, use the program cuebreakpoints to split a large audio file
[18:43] <nnull> jcliff¬ so what are you saying disable its use and reboot or?
[18:44] <jcliff> if it's saying that it's already loaded try disabling its use
[18:44] <jcliff> and then try doing whatever it is you're trying to do but which is not working
[18:44] <recon61> ﻿nnull: so your not using the standard video drivers?
[18:45] <obi_> so i use my laptop at work, and i want to know how i can easily and quickly connect to a projector and use it as a dual monitor, setup jsut like another workspace, ideally.
[18:45] <nnull> recon61¬ i was, but couldnt get it to work, trying to nvidia-legacy atm.. which apperently are the right ones for this card
[18:45] <jcliff> obi_: might be a driver related question
[18:45] <nnull> jcliff¬ mk ill try that.
[18:45] <[c0re]> how to access sudo without password???
[18:45] <jcliff> c0re what password
[18:45] <jcliff> the user password?
[18:46] <recon61> ﻿nnull: and did you get the legacy tools package as well?
[18:46] <crumple> does bazaar run on python 3.0?
[18:46] <DasE1> !sudo | ﻿﻿ [c0re]:
[18:46] <nnull> recon61¬ nope?
[18:46] <mircmac> recon61: it is wep keyed and the mac address of the wireless node is defined in the wap. wep key works for the XP box.
[18:46] <jcliff> the whole point of sudo is to access root stuff without the password
[18:46] <MoLoot> [c0re]: the point of sudo is to protect superuser access... so you NEED a password for su and sudo
[18:46] <le_mischa> jcliff: :D
[18:46] <[c0re]> DasE1, i know what is SUDO
[18:46] <sken> hello
[18:46] <MoLoot> [c0re]: or you could hire-a-hacker...
[18:46] <mircmac> recon61: it is wep keyed and the mac address of the wireless node is defined in the wap. wep key works for the XP box.
[18:46] <nnull> recon61¬ whats the name of it do you know mate?
[18:47] <nnull> will it be in synaptic or apt?
[18:47] <[c0re]> MoLoot, i am lazy to type my password again and again and again and again
[18:47] <crumple> does bazaar (the vcs) run on python 3.0?
[18:47] <soundray> [c0re]: you can run a root shell with sudo -i (but please be careful)
[18:47] <soundray> !rootshell | [c0re]
[18:48] <allsystemsarego> [c0re], there is a way, but you didn't hear it from me :)
[18:48] <[c0re]> MoLoot, i was running ubuntu box without sudo password... its was just fine for 5/6 months... :p
[18:48] <MoLoot> [c0re]: I cam
[18:49] <Photoguy> What abotu RAW (Image format) on Ubuntu?
[18:49] <MoLoot> [c0re]: oops..  I can't help you - it's against my religion as an IT Sec guy to help people setup passwordless root access :X
[18:49] <zenit> Pretty sure that sudo can be set up in passwordless mode.
[18:49] <MoLoot> [c0re]: no offense...
[18:49] <Mi-kun> hello
[18:49] <UserC> can anybody here help me add an export command to the bashrc file?
[18:50] <allsystemsarego> [c0re], do this at your own risk - add the line "c0re ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" at the end of the visudo screen
[18:50] <sken> why when i use wine or any windoes program screen is flickering?
[18:50] <soundray> Photoguy: what about it?
[18:50] <bill> Hi, how can I check what drive /home, windows and boot is on? I normally use gparted, but I would like a gui way.
[18:50] <recon61> nnull: well, I'm short on details but it's likely that the legacy driver has a very different setup than the default one from synaptic. so installing nvidia tools from synaptic is removing you legacy drivers. I have a google to see if i can find some details
[18:50] <Mi-kun> I just got a new laptop and i just installed ubuntu 8.10 but i need some help
[18:50] <UserC> can anybody here help me add an export command to the bashrc file?
[18:50] <[c0re]> allsystemsarego, thanks :D
[18:50] <bill> sorry, a cli way
[18:51] <Photoguy> Can I edit RAW photos on Ubuntu?
[18:51] <soundray> UserC: what's the problem with it?
[18:51] <sken> why when i use wine or any windoes program screen is flickering?
[18:51] <TTilus> Photoguy: yes
[18:51] <soundray> Photoguy: you can use the gimp with a plugin
[18:51] <Photoguy> F-spot?
[18:51] <soundray> !info gimp-dcraw | Photoguy
[18:51] <[c0re]> allsystemsarego, thanks dude :D
[18:51] <soundray> !info gimp-ufraw | Photoguy
[18:51] <TTilus> Photoguy: f-spot is image archive mgmt
[18:51] <UserC> soundray, i want to add the following command: "export LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8" i did and it's supposed to automatically use it right? doesn't seems to do that
[18:51] <fwaokda> how can i listen to streaming windows media stuff in firefox?
[18:52] <allsystemsarego> fwaokda, use vlc
[18:52] <eseven73> allsystemsarego: is there a way to do that for allowing ONLY localhost root privilages without passwords?, but everyone else from non-localhost would have to enter password, ie people that SSH into my box
[18:52] <bill> fwaokda; install the codecs (medibuntu repo)
[18:52] <soundray> UserC: no, it will be used the next time you start a shell.
[18:52] <hateball> fwaokda⡶ you need some restricted codecs and some plugin for the browser
[18:52] <TTilus> Photoguy: f-spot does the job for most of people, i'm using kphotoalbum
[18:52] <UserC> soundray, um how do i make it be used by all the programs?
[18:52] <fwaokda> i dont know how to entirely do all that can someone help me? whichever way is easiest i suppose
[18:52] <Mi-kun> i think i installed wine, but i still cant install my drivers
[18:52] <bill> Instead of using gparted, how can a see what drives are on my system and what's on it?
[18:53] <allsystemsarego> eseven73, that is beyond me
[18:53] <AlexOnRuby> are there any skin packs for ubuntu ?
[18:53] <AlexOnRuby> can i design one ?
[18:53] <eseven73> ok
[18:53] <bill> AlexOnRuby: http://gnome-look.org
[18:53] <soundray> UserC: .bashrc is only for shells. To set a variable system-wide, set it from /etc/environment. In the case of LC_ALL it might be better to choose a session in your language at login, however.
[18:54] <Lasivian> is there any other program like "cheese"? Ekiga works but doesn;t take photos
[18:54] <Lasivian> Cheese does not work
[18:54] <UserC> soundray, how do i do that exactly?
[18:54] <Lasivian> because I can;t change the settings enough
[18:54] <ComputerCarl> ok, me and my friend are arguing, centos vs ubuntu
[18:54] <nnull> for server obviously?
[18:54] <ComputerCarl> this is going to be a kvm server...
[18:54] <hc> !poll | ComputerCarl
[18:54] <ardchoille> ComputerCarl: that should go to off topic
[18:55] <ComputerCarl> whats the off topic #room?
[18:55] <hc> !ot | Commie_Cary
[18:55] <recon61> ﻿mircmac: would suggest turning off encryption to see if you can ping the router, if so the turn encryption back on and fault find that.
[18:55] <ardchoille> !ot
[18:55] <hc> Commie_Cary, sorry, wrong nick.
[18:55] <hc> ComputerCarl, see above
[18:55] <ComputerCarl> ty ubootu!
[18:55] <ComputerCarl> k
[18:55] <sere_> i use fluxbox and trying to use a screen saver....anyone know how i would do that with kscreensaver
[18:55] <soundray> UserC: boot to the login (gdm) screen. Click on Options, select Language, pick your language. You may have to install support for it first through System-Administration-Language Support
[18:55] <ardchoille> sere_: ok, that's twice you're in the wrong channel, lol
[18:55] <UserC> soundray, oh ok, and i have support for it.. thanks i'll try
[18:56] <ardchoille> sere_: #fluxbox or #kubuntu
[18:56] <eseven73> ok im the only one with access to my computer, so i dont see a need to enter root pass every 5 mins, but other people (other than localhost) need to enter pass, like if someone were to hack into my box remotely, how would i go about doing this?
[18:56] <sere_> ardchoille: what are u talking about i just got here
[18:56] <Mi-kun> Does anyone know where i can find drivers for my ubuntu?
[18:56] <ardchoille> sere_: #fluxbox or #kubuntu
[18:56] <sere_> shut up
[18:57] <lucax> every time i want to open an image, ubuntu tries to open it with gedit instead of pic viewer, how do i solve this?
[18:57] <ikonia> sere_: please don't speak to people like that
[18:57] <ikonia> Mi-kun: what drivers are you looking for
[18:57] <mircmac> recon61: Yeah I tried no encrypt, with same result, the laptop looks connected, the wap sees the laptop connect, but won't talk.
[18:57] <allsystemsarego> eseven73, on second thought, maybe you can do it with TCP wrappers, but I have no experience with that :(
[18:57] <needhelp> Alright,
[18:57] <ardchoille> sere_: according to your question, you are better off in #fluxbox or #kubuntu. And please be nice to people in this channel.
[18:57] <needhelp> I need help
[18:57] <needhelp> with my pppoe connection
[18:57] <Mi-kun> Well i think i have them on a disc but i cant run the installer
[18:58] <needhelp> So, who here can help me.
[18:58] <xmax> hello
[18:58] <ikonia> Mi-kun: what drivers ar eyou looking for, what device ?
[18:58] <soundray> !enter | needhelp
[18:58] <needhelp> ANY help/guidance will be greatly appreciated.
[18:58] <Mi-kun> for my Geforce 9600GT among others
[18:58] <ikonia> needhelp: if you ask a question we maybe able to
[18:58] <soundray> !ask | needhelp
[18:58] <Mi-kun> basically everything
[18:58] <eseven73> no ones offering to help, okkaaaayyy time to fire up google *sigh*
[18:58] <ikonia> Mi-kun: well you souldn't need "drivers" for anything apart from rare occasions
[18:58] <recon61> ﻿mircmac: you removed encrypt from laptop and ap?
[18:58] <ikonia> eseven73: ask the question
[18:58] <eseven73> i did twice now
[18:58] <needhelp> ok, So, i went through the sudo pppoeconf procedure, and it started and everything
[18:58] <Mi-kun> ikonia what do you mean?
[18:58] <ikonia> Mi-kun: what else are you looking for, we'll get to the nvidia card in a minute
[18:59] <ikonia> Mi-kun: drivers are in the ubuntu kenrel for most hardware
[18:59] <needhelp> but after about five minutes the my connection disconnects
[18:59] <eseven73> if i repeat you guys will just do !repeat | eseven73
[18:59] <UserC> soundray
[18:59] <UserC> soundray, you misunderstood me
[18:59] <ikonia> eseven73: I'm asking you the question as I missed it
[18:59] <needhelp> I don't know why, I type sudo pon again and it says something about a file dsl-providers.
[18:59] <Mi-kun> well i have this fingerprint scanner thingy
[18:59] <LjL> eseven73: only if you do that overly often
[18:59] <eseven73> ok im the only one with access to my computer, so i dont see a need to enter root pass every 5 mins, but other people (other than localhost) need to enter pass, like if someone were to hack into my box remotely, how would i go about doing this?
[18:59] <needhelp> a file* about dsl-providers.
[18:59] <soundray> eseven73: please rephrase rather than repeating -- it's not clear what you want to do
[19:00] <Mi-kun> but i dont think its working
[19:00] <jughead> I have some mixed .m4a and .m4p files in my music folder.  they are mixed up in different sub directories and I'm wondering, is there a way to recursively delete all of the m4p files?
[19:00] <ikonia> eseven73: change your sudoers file to have the NOPASSWD option for you account
[19:00] <soundray> !pppoe | needhelp
[19:00] <LjL> eseven73: man sudoers will let you know that sudo has a NOPASSWD options. people connecting from SSH or whatever will still have to get into your account to begin with
[19:00] <ikonia> Mi-kun: well it sounds like you've got some awkward hardware to be sure
[19:00] <eseven73> woah soundray's back, long time no see :)
[19:00] <Mi-kun> well its basically a normal laptop
[19:00] <needhelp> did. No help
[19:01] <ikonia> Mi-kun: wwith awkward hardware for linux to use
[19:01] <budz0r> i can't delete a file i created in ubuntu from windows because it contains invalid characters. anyone know a trick?
[19:01] <soundray> eseven73: it's been so long I don't even know who you are.
[19:01] <Mi-kun> well im not sure if i even need the drivers
[19:01] <ikonia> Mi-kun: anything else you need before we dive in
[19:01] <needhelp> but, i'll take another look and be back. Excuse me a second
[19:01] <eseven73> ok thanks ikonia , LjL  and soundray
[19:01] <Mi-kun> yes most importantly how do i get the racing game with the penguin
[19:01] <dkerschner> is there a metapackage for installing LAMP on ubuntu 8.10 server? I didn't think I needed it when I installed and now I do...
[19:01] <ikonia> budz0r: use escape chars "\" or quotes "hello there" for the file
[19:01] <ikonia> Mi-kun: tux racer, ahh that one should be in the repos
[19:01] <eseven73> soundray: yea i dont talk much in here, and i had a different nick when you were last here :)
[19:01] <allsystemsarego> budz0r, or use the liveCD
[19:01] <budz0r> ikonia, i've tried that. i can't touch the file in dos
[19:01] <five_> couldnt you get that from add/remove programs
[19:02] <five_> games
[19:02] <Lasivian> what is the command to compile something, "make all install"?
[19:02] <soundray> UserC: try setting the variable from /etc/environment then. Save and reboot after editing. No need to use export in that file.
[19:02] <ikonia> Mi-kun: install the package extremetuxracer from your package manager
[19:02] <needhelp> I'm back, and it was not useful.
[19:02] <budz0r> allsystemsarego, i'm going to have to it looks like. but i'm at work and trying to do it remotely. can't reboot my machine.
[19:02] <mircmac> recon61: I believe I got them both, I guess I'm going to have to start from scratch and take copious notes along the way
[19:02] <UserC> soundray, no um wait, i don't want my whole computer to use hebrew, i just want programs to start with the hebrew locale
[19:02] <Mi-kun> i have a package manager?
[19:02] <ikonia> budz0r: you mean you want to delete it in windows ?
[19:02] <soundray> needhelp: you should be able to ask a more specific question, though.
[19:02] <budz0r> tried renaming the file in dos to something managable, tried to delete it all different kind of ways.
[19:02] <ikonia> Mi-kun: you do
[19:02] <ikonia> !synaptic > Mi-kun
[19:02] <UserC> soundray, like when they start after starting them with the export LC_ALL=he_IL.UTF-8 command in the terminal
[19:03] <recon61> ﻿mircmac: would seem that the basic setup is wrong, you just going to have to check everything again
[19:03] <hothollas> is there a default cam program for gutsy?
[19:03] <hothollas> application*
[19:03] <soundray> UserC: you could write a wrapper script for each program that needs that setting then
[19:03] <ikonia> budz0r: sorry, not sure what your asking ar eyou trying to delte it in windows, or ubuntu ?
[19:03] <Mi-kun> ill check the link
[19:03] <wesolek> hello, does anybody know how to enable 3D effect in cairo-dock?
[19:03] <needhelp> Ok, here it is. THE INTERNET ISN'T WORKING. I understand that I'm being totally ambiguos. BUt that's all I know!
[19:03] <budz0r> ikonia yeah the file name (ex) "1d:3:2:.conf" . i want to delete it from windows. its on an external disk i haev. but because of those characters it wont let me
[19:03] <ikonia> budz0r: the guys in ##windows will know the trick
[19:03] <UserC> soundray, how do i do that?
[19:03] <budz0r> ikonia, thanks :)
[19:04] <UserC> soundray, um wait a better question.. could i make wine use it only?
[19:04] <needhelp> wait...
[19:04] <needhelp> I'll be back.
[19:04] <dkerschner> oh woot i found it, tasksel for the win
[19:04] <soundray> UserC: like this:     #!/bin/bash ;; export LC_ALL=... ;; wine $*
[19:05] <sere_> i just recently switched to kubuntu and wonder if ubuntu is faster than kebuntu
[19:05] <ikonia> sere_: nope
[19:05] <ikonia> sere_: they are the same OS with different desktops
[19:05] <soundray> UserC: replace ;; with linebreaks and fill in the proper variable value
[19:05] <UserC> soundray, what are linebreaks..? lol
[19:05] <LjL> UserC: the Enter key.
[19:05] <recon61> null: is you hardware driver actually installed yet?
[19:05] <sere_> ikonia: oh ok ...so kde and gnome use about the same in resources?
[19:05] <UserC> soundray, and i don't understand the meaning of variable value..
[19:06] <UserC> i'm confused now..
[19:06] <Mi-kun> allrighty i found the package manager but it has no extremetuxracer package
[19:06] <ikonia> sere_: prett much
[19:07] <mircmac> recon61: Yeah, I'm missing or setting something wrong, I've gotten the same results in a fresh install of hardy, intrepid, and ubuntustudio...
[19:07] <ikonia> Mi-kun search for tux racer and you'll find it
[19:07] <soundray> UserC: just make sure that instead of writing my line literally, you replace all occurences of ;; with a new line (hit Enter). When you get to the second line, you will know what to put instead of my ...
[19:07] <tripps> hello. after updating and restarting my hardy heron desktop, I now get a "xgl server setup changed" dialog box. I'm not sure I understand what it's telling me. can someone enlighten me? thx
[19:07] <UserC> soundray, ok lol
[19:08] <Abu7amza> hello there, I have a question about the window manager
[19:08] <[c0re]> how do i apply same themes as i am using to root? (gnome themes)
[19:08] <Abu7amza> for some reason, I cant see a title bar anymore
[19:08] <Abu7amza> any hint?
[19:08] <hothollas> I plugged in a usb cam into gutsy.  it lights up.  but what application should I use?
[19:08] <UserC> soundray, um it did not help.. did i do it wrong?
[19:08] <tripps> i also have firefox without any addons or bookmarks - perhaps these are related?
[19:08] <UserC> soundray, i wrote
[19:09] <UserC> soundray, #!/bin/bash ;; export LC_ALL=...
[19:09] <soundray> UserC: hold on
[19:09] <ikonia> [c0re]: if you launch applicatiosn with gksudo it will use the same theme
[19:09] <UserC> soundray, pressed enter and wrote the rest
[19:09] <UserC> soundray, um ok
[19:09] <soundray> UserC: you're supposed to write a wrapper *script*
[19:09] <Abu7amza> ok, will come later to ask
[19:09] <Abu7amza> something came up
[19:09] <[c0re]> ikonia, and sudo ?
[19:09] <ikonia> [c0re]: no
[19:09] <UserC> soundray, um um.. lol
[19:09] <UserC> soundray, i'm a new ubuntu user.. lol
[19:09] <[c0re]> lol
[19:09] <thiebaude> just install the themes from appearence
[19:09] <ikonia> [c0re]: you don't use sudo to launch gui applications
[19:09] <soundray> UserC: that means you will call the script by its name instead of wine directly.
[19:10] <UserC> soundray, could you give me an example with the program notepad?
[19:10] <[c0re]> ikonia, dude i am real lazy ass. i dont wanna type gk before sudo
[19:10] <ikonia> [c0re]: then don't ask for help about it
[19:10] <recon61> mircmac: can you ping the laptop ip address from the laptop?
[19:11] <sjbrown> so I think I've got a Santa Rosa macbook, and I followed the ndiswrapper instructions, but still I can't see any wifi.
[19:11] <sjbrown> any suggestions?
[19:11] <soundray> UserC: two minutes
[19:11] <UserC> soundray, ok thank you.. and sorry for troubling lol
[19:11] <D-rew> How would I go about sharing an NTFS mount via SMB?
[19:11] <[c0re]> ikonia, dude you have no idea how to do it....
[19:11] <recon61> mircmac: or you loopback address 127.0.0.1
[19:11] <[c0re]> i just wanna know what is the gnome themes settings name
[19:12] <juanez> D-rew: you setup SMB (samba). and it wont really matter what filesystem you use
[19:12] <D-rew> Ah, okay.
[19:12] <soundray> UserC: download this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83654/plain/
[19:12] <keystr0k> The mute button on my apple keyboard pops up the notificaton and shows the red X, but the sound doesn't actually mute.  I click it again and the red X goes away... sounds keeps playing. Any ideas?
[19:12] <Aradiv> Hi i have a problem with firefox and ubuntu 8.04
[19:13] <mircmac> recon61: I believe so, yes...not at the machine in question so can't test right now. But, I believe I could ping loopback and the defined ip in the laptop
[19:13] <Mi-kun> ikonia i managed to install it
[19:13] <Mi-kun> but can i pm you about those drivers?
[19:13] <UserC> soundray, thanks i'll try that lol
[19:13] <Aradiv> the url in the navbar doesn't appear or diplay the real page
[19:13] <artha> hi all
[19:13] <soundray> UserC: copy the contents to a file named hewine in your home directory. Make it executable by running 'chmod +x $HOME/hewine'
[19:13] <recon61> mircmac: been a while, but pinging you loopback address tests if your lan card is working,
[19:13] <sjbrown> keystr0k, maybe it's muting a device other than the speakers
[19:14] <sjbrown> like the headphones
[19:14] <keystr0k> sjbrown, hmm.
[19:14] <nick1> hi
[19:14] <soundray> UserC: then you will be able to run '$HOME/hewine notepad.exe'
[19:14] <keystr0k> maybe because I use a dock. I'll check into it.
[19:14] <ikonia>  [c0re] I do undeerstand how to do it, but you not listening, that is not the way to launch root applications
[19:14] <recon61> mircmac: also check that you have you gateway and subnet address correct
[19:14] <ikonia> Mi-kun: we can work on the drivers in here
[19:14] <soundray> UserC: can you understand what this does?
[19:15] <keystr0k> sjbrown, nope... doesn't mute any of my sound ports.
[19:15] <[c0re]> ikonia, sudo ln -s /root/.themes/ ~/.themes
[19:15] <[c0re]> lmao
[19:15] <UserC> soundray, no but apperently it works..
[19:15] <UserC> lol
[19:15] <ikonia>  [c0re] I woulnd't suggest that
[19:15] <mircmac> recon61: Yes, now that you mention it, that doesn't tell much.
[19:15] <fwaokda> I've installed vlc, mplayer, and firefox plugins for both and yet the sirius online radio I can't listen too... anyone have anything I might try to resolve this?
[19:15] <ikonia> [c0re]: because you will be launching the root applications WRONG and can cause problems for yourself
[19:16] <recon61> mircmac: also check you have set up the right lan device, you could have configured you wired adaptor instead of your wireless
[19:16] <soundray> UserC: I'm flattered and worried now. Flattered because you trusted my code, worried because you shouldn't have.
[19:16] <Mi-kun> allrighty
[19:16] <recon61> mircmac: pinging your loopback address tells you that you card is working
[19:17] <UserC> soundray, i'll tell you once someone kills my ubuntu box
[19:17] <ikonia> Mi-kun: the bad news is your nvidia card isn't supported by the current ubuntu packaged drivers (that I'm aware of)
[19:17] <ikonia> !away  patrickod|away
[19:17] <ikonia> !away > patrickod|away
[19:17] <Mi-kun> well that sucks
[19:17] <ikonia> Mi-kun: not quite
[19:17] <ikonia> Mi-kun: there are drivers on nvidia.com for your card, however your running a bleeding edge card, so they may have a few issues
[19:18] <UserC> soundray, i understand it after reading it again.. lol
[19:18] <jabop> Hi, in 8.10, I'm trying to find out a way to sync emails in Evolution so other clients don't see messages as unread when I've in fact read them on Evolution. How can this be done?
[19:18] <Mi-kun> bleeding edge?
[19:18] <ikonia> Mi-kun: "latest current"
[19:18] <UserC> soundray, it's really too bad i can't simply make wine always use that locale
[19:18] <experimental> how can we crack a wep key?
[19:18] <subpar_> subpar: time out ya ghost
[19:18] <soundray> UserC: you can now
[19:18] <ikonia> experimental: you don't
[19:18] <ikonia> experimental: please don't ask
[19:19] <UserC> soundray, well yeah but i would have to always tell all the programs i run from it use this command
[19:19] <UserC> soundray, or bash file.. or something
[19:19] <soundray> UserC: if you do a 'sudo cp $HOME/hewine /usr/local/bin/wine' you won't notice any difference
[19:19] <experimental> will some1 help me?
[19:19] <recon61> jabop: you normally set it on the email server, there is a option like "keep email on server"
[19:19] <fsanchezcv> hello, i need help regarding installation
[19:19] <ikonia> experimental: please don't ask
[19:19] <wesolek> does anybody know a bit about the 3D effects in cairo-dock?
[19:19] <UserC> soundray, unless you're on to me and that will kill my comp.. but i shall trust you
[19:19] <experimental> why not ikonia?
[19:19] <ikonia> experimental: we will not help you crack wep keys
[19:20] <Xero> fsanchezcv: hello, what is your problem?
[19:20] <sweetgum> is there another program to run windows files other then wine?
[19:20] <experimental> ok i will ask google then
[19:20] <thiebaude> experimental, this is a support forum for ubuntu questions, not to circumvent some security
[19:20] <javadude> Hey everyone... I just noticed that FF comes installed with "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" - Im curious as to what that is and does?
[19:20] <jabop> recon61: I was using thunderbird, which did it successfully. for example, when I read mail in evolution, my iphone still displays it as unread. it's very annoying.
[19:20] <UserC> soundray, ummm it didn't do a thing
[19:20] <ikonia> experimental: that notn allowed or the focus of this channel
[19:20] <fsanchezcv> Xero: well, i am currently using ubuntu 8.04 in my laptop, but im trying to install it in my friend's and it just doesnt work
[19:20] <Mi-kun> sorry was plugging in a network cable
[19:20] <Xero> sweetgum: yes, but they will all require a Windows licence / install CD, and invilve running Windows in a virtual machine
[19:21] <experimental> ikonia everything about ubuntu is hacking
[19:21] <soundray> UserC: when you run 'wine notepad.exe' now, it will use the wrapper script instead of the original wine (which is in /usr/bin)
[19:21] <mircmac> recon61: Well, the wired works when a cable is plugged in (it also has a different ip defined) (question: is the gateway for the laptop the wap or the gateway on network connected to the wap?)
[19:21] <sweetgum> Xero: ah vmware?
[19:21] <lazy> hi
[19:21] <UserC> soundray, oh wait.. perhaps cus i used the um notepad link
[19:21] <experimental> you cant stop that
[19:21] <ikonia> experimental: no it's not and please don's discuss this futher
[19:21] <Xero> fsanchezcv: are you using the alternate or normal install cd, and how far does it get?
[19:21] <Lasivian> anyone want to help me try and install something from source that does not want to install? heh i'm trying to install cheese 2.25 on 8.10 and it's telling me there is no makefile
[19:21] <ikonia> !away > patrickod
[19:21] <lazy> i have an question, Can i USE displayconfig-gtk in ubuntu 8.10 to change screen resolution ?
[19:21] <ikonia> lazy: probably because there is no makefile
[19:21] <Mi-kun> do i even need those drivers btw?
[19:22] <Xero> sweetgum: yes, like VMware =] there's a few alternatives, but as far as I know, it's either Wine or a VM
[19:22] <lazy> ikonia, bad...
[19:22] <fsanchezcv> Xero: im using the one that the guys at ubuntu.com shipped me. I get the menu, select "install Ubuntu" and then theres some loading bar, and after that, the screen is just blank
[19:22] <ikonia> Mi-kun: you can use the interneal "nv" drivers which will work, just won't support 3d acceleration
[19:22] <ikonia> lazy: tpoy , osrry
[19:22] <fsanchezcv> and its been like that for like 15 minutes
[19:22] <ikonia> typo sorry
[19:22] <Mi-kun> ikonia i dont even know what that means.
[19:22] <Xero> fsanchezcv: is there an option for "Test Ubuntu with no change to your system"?
[19:23] <ikonia> Mi-kun: then you'll be fine with out those drivers
[19:23] <lazy> ikonia, what? ) you answered me or to typo?
[19:23] <subpar_> anyone have luck running ms word in wine?
[19:23] <ikonia> lazy: my asnwer to you was a typo
[19:23] <lazy> ah ok
[19:23] <ikonia> subpar_: #winehq has solid wine support
[19:23] <fredl> hello
[19:23] <Mi-kun> well i was hoping to run some games on this
[19:23] <recon61> mircmac: gateway setting on the laptop should be the ap's ip address on local network, normally 192.168.1.1.
[19:23] <subpar_> ah
[19:23] <fsanchezcv> Xero: the problem is that the computer only has 256 RAM, so we prefer to install it wholly on th ehard drive
[19:23] <lazy> then my question is still alive
[19:23] <Mi-kun> but im gonna guess i gotta install windows anyway :S
[19:23] <ikonia> Mi-kun: then you'd probably want the drivers
[19:23] <subpar_> I haven't tried it yet, so I don't need support really
[19:23] <subpar_> just need to know if it'll be a pain in the arse
[19:23] <Lasivian> ikonia: porbably, but source compile instructions don't mention this anywhere
[19:23] <lazy> can i use displayconfig in ubuntu 8.10 to change screen resoltuion? thnaks..
[19:23] <fredl> does anybody know if it's possible to use the optical audio output with the snd-hda-intel driver?
[19:24] <tripps> great now I don't have any more servers in xchat after updating - wtf
[19:24] <crimsun> fredl: yes
[19:24] <ikonia> Lasivian: then contact the support people for that package
[19:24] <recon61> mircmac: and i take it you are disconnecting the wired connection when testing your wireless?
[19:24] <Lasivian> gee, thanks
[19:24] <ikonia> tripps: could you please avoid using phrases like wtf, people know what it means and don't need to see it
[19:24] <DasE1> lazy : apt-cache search displayconfig-gtk  :P
[19:24] <ikonia> Lasivian: what do you want us to do, we don't make this package ?
[19:24] <fredl> crimsun - and will you share this knowledge with me? :)
[19:24] <lazy> DasE1, no , it isn't (
[19:24] <Xero> fsanchezcv: ah, i see... so i assume you have not tried the alternate install CD?
[19:25] <lazy> i have already searched for it
[19:25] <Lasivian> ikonia, you could not act like a jerk for starters. I asked a question, I didn;t piss in your oatmeal
[19:25] <fsanchezcv> Xero: No, how does that work?
[19:25] <lazy> it is not is repository.
[19:25] <MoLoot> Lasivian: lol - piss in your oatmeal.. haha
[19:25] <ikonia> Lasivian: watch your language and attitude, it was a sensible response to offer you
[19:25] <ikonia> Lasivian: we don't makke the package, and if there is nothing about it in the README file, how can we support it
[19:25] <tripps> can I get my list of xchat servers back by 'refreshing' the package or something?
[19:25] <soundray> lazy: displayconfig-gtk is not for 8.10
[19:25] <ikonia> Lasivian: the obvious suggestion is to contact the people who made it
[19:26] <MoLoot> ikonia: sorry :) but that was a funny expression...
[19:26] <Lasivian> ikonia, then perhaps you should have said "contact the package makers, we can;t help you with that here" first
[19:26] <mircmac> recon61: That's what I thought, and I'm pretty sure I checked the gateway setting on the xp box to verify since it's working, yes, wired is discon'd when trying w'less
[19:26] <DasE1> tripps : purge-reinstall it
[19:26] <ikonia> Lasivian: thats what I did
[19:26] <Xero> fsanchezcv: it's a different way of installing ubuntu, to put it bluntly, you still end up witht the same ubuntu installed but the alternate disc has more options available and it's better for installing on older systems, such as yours
[19:26] <ikonia> Lasivian: I offered you the suggestion of the README where it should be, then suggestion you contact the package makers
[19:26] <soundray> lazy: what's the problem with your display setup?#
[19:26] <lazy> soundray, but what is for ubuntu? how can i change screen resolution
[19:26] <fsanchezcv> Xero: Where and how do i get it?
[19:26] <DasE1> tripps : sudo apt-get remove --purge xchat && sudo apt-get install xchat
[19:26] <recon61> mircmac: pastebin the output of ifconfig
[19:26] <tripps> DasE1, ok - will I have to reconfig my preferences afterwards I presume?
[19:26] <lazy> _
[19:26] <lazy> )
[19:27] <ozzloy> how do i get konsole to open links with firefox?
[19:27] <soundray> lazy: System-Preferences-Screen Resolution
 lasivian: probably because there is no makefile <-- who else sees this as baiting trouble? I know I do
[19:27] <DasE1> tripps : sure
[19:27] <soundray> Lasivian: you're oversensitive
[19:27] <tripps> DasE1, ok thanks
[19:27] <ikonia> Lasivian: no, thats explaining the problem, you'd be surprised how many people don't know how to read the erroor messages
[19:27] <lazy> soundray, there is only one mode that i currently use, it's 640x ..
[19:27] <Xero> fsanchezcv: you can download an ISO from the internet and burn it to a CD, do you have the right software installed?
[19:27] <Lasivian> soundray, i'm a chick, what's your point?
[19:27] <ikonia> Lasivian: you could have checked and told is there is no/is a makefile
[19:27] <mib_yj0q0gll> hello
[19:27] <fsanchezcv> yes i do
[19:27] <fsanchezcv> Xero: in the ubuntu website?
[19:27] <fredl> crimsun - can you tell me how I configure snd-hda-intel to use the optical output ?
[19:27] <ikonia> Lasivian: I suggest you contact the package maintainers then
[19:27] <mib_yj0q0gll> по-русски кто-нибудь есть? :)
[19:28] <tripps> ok second Q: why do I get the "Xgl server setup changed" information dialog everytime I login/restart?
[19:28] <lazy> mib_yj0q0gll: #ubuntu-ru ...
[19:28] <ozzloy> how do i change kde's system settings?  i'm currently in gnome
[19:28] <ardchoille> !ru | mib_yj0q0gll
[19:28] <Xero> fsanchezcv: yep, the download is there :)
[19:28] <simplenewb> I listen to a lot of podcasts and I've made the switch from windows to ubuntu. I have a text file with 73 podcast urls, how do I add them to rhytmbox in bulk and not line by line?
[19:28] <fsanchezcv> Xero, Thank you very much
[19:28] <soundray> Lasivian: my point is, filter out whatever might be the emotional content of the messages you get, then the remainder will be helpful for you.
[19:28] <lazy> there people there is not user-frindly.
[19:28] <crimsun> fredl: just tell the alsa app(s) to use plug:spdif
[19:28] <crimsun> fredl: or, plug:iec958
[19:29] <lazy> aren't
[19:29] <mircmac> recon61: so the laptop w'less: 192.168.53.13, wap is 192.168.53.251, gateway defined on l'top: 192.168.53.100
[19:29] <soundray> lazy: what? I'm just in the process of helping you
[19:29] <Lasivian> soundray, lemme guess, you're a stone-hearted male with no emotion?
[19:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: can we drop this please, you've got solid advice
[19:29] <Lasivian> ikonia, I quit talking to you several minutes ago, you didn;t seem to notice
[19:29] <sjbrown> how should i go about diagnosing an empty list when looking for wifi networks?
[19:29] <soundray> Lasivian: maybe, but the subject of me is offtopic here.
[19:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: stop discussing htis in the channel
[19:30] <soundray> Lasivian: have you tried gqcam?
[19:30] <fredl> crimsun - oh really? Ok, I'll try that, I had expected some sort of kernel module option.
[19:30] <fredl> crimsun - thanks!
[19:30] <lazy> soundray, i answered that there is only one mode that i currently use, it's 640x 480, but i need at least, 1024 x...
[19:31] <recon61> mircmac: thats look wrong, you gateway address should match the wireless access point's ip address , and whats you subnet mask?
[19:31] <foititis> join #anarxikos
[19:31] <tripps> the info dialog says, "The XGl server will now be started automatically next time you log in . . . . ." but it doesn't and I don't think I use XGl any more as of hardy heron. what is the story here?
[19:31] <lazy> soundray, the screen resolution tool that you have mentioned, says also that monitor is UNKNOWN
[19:31] <soundray> lazy: then you went on to say how unhelpful this channel is. That's very inappropriate, if someone has just started helping you.
[19:31] <mircmac> recon61: Anyway we could connect later when I get in front of the machine (it's 27miles away) and I won't get there until 7PM'ish tonight
[19:31] <USSVoyager> greetings all
[19:31] <USSVoyager> I have a question
[19:31] <USSVoyager> how do I setup SNMP in ubuntu
[19:32] <USSVoyager> ?
[19:32] <ikonia> USSVoyager: if you search the package manager for SNMP you'll find a few daemons
[19:32] <lazy> soundray? i did not say that
[19:32] <ikonia> USSVoyager: install one and start to configure the community you want
[19:32] <tripps> the new method for eye candy is fglrx, right? no need to run xgl any more. is that correct?
[19:32] <ikonia> USSVoyager: I assume your familier with snmp
[19:32] <recon61> mircmac: sound like a good idea, bit hard to fix a network issue from 27 miles away :)
[19:32] <USSVoyager> yeah
[19:33] <Lasivian> lazy: they're confusing you and me, don;t take it personally
[19:33] <lazy> i say that people on #ubuntu-ru aren't frendly, not #ubuntu, it's a big difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-ru
[19:33] <soundray> lazy: maybe not, but it doesn't matter to me now
[19:33] <nibsa1242> need minor pulse audio help; I'm getting this error: W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.  Solution seems to be to add user to pulseaudio group, how do I know which group?
[19:33] <ikonia> USSVoyager: couple of daeons to chose rom pick on and give it a go
[19:33] <iSchadow> how do I install the latest version of GTK through synaptic
[19:33] <soundray> Lasivian: no, I can tell you and lazy apart very well. The secret is in the nickname.
[19:33] <fredl> crimsun - can I ask you some things in privmsg?
[19:33] <ikonia> iSchadow: you can only install it if there is a package available
[19:33] <crimsun> fredl: pretty busy ATM
[19:34] <fredl> ok, n/p
[19:34] <lazy> soundray, ...
[19:34] <lazy> do you have an solution or not
[19:34] <lazy> if not, then..
[19:34] <soundray> lazy: not for you, no
[19:34] <lazy> do not waste my time
[19:35] <mircmac> recon61: The subnet mask is 255.255.255.0, network is cable modem->firewall/gateway(OpenBSD)-> other wired computers & wap ~> laptops
[19:35] <Tex-Twil> Hello
[19:35] <nibsa1242> need help resolving state of no sound- pulse audio reports W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[19:35] <Tex-Twil> please how can I secure erase a partition ?
[19:36] <lazy> this channel also is not frendly?
[19:36] <ikonia> Tex-Twil: dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/$diskID bs=512k
[19:36] <ikonia> Tex-Twil: that will write random data to the disk
[19:36] <Tex-Twil> ok
[19:36] <lazy> soundray, this is becuse you don't like my nickname?
[19:36] <soundray> ikonia: that's going to be very slow, though...
[19:36] <Bob3> Heya, Just trying to configure GRUB properly.. on fdisk -l shows the partition i want to add to GRUB is SDA3, so what would that be writing it in? kernel 		(hd0,3)?
[19:36] <ikonia> soundray: true,
[19:37] <ikonia> soundray: didn't say speed was importnat
[19:37] <ikonia> Bob3: (hd0,2)
[19:37] <neonimr> hi
[19:37] <recon61> mircmac: I take it this is your first wireless connection? Think i see you problem.
[19:37] <lazy> soundray, why then you asked me if i have an screen resoltion trouble?
[19:37] <Bob3> Thank you, Ikonia!
[19:37] <lazy> )
[19:37] <neonimr> how can I use rsync to execute a remote command before doing the copying?
[19:37] <ikonia> lazy: please stop going on - he doesn't have a correct answer for you at this time
[19:37] <iSchadow> isn't grub supposed to have like, an image? when I dual boot I just get a black/white command line selection screen
[19:38] <lazy> ikonia, lolz
[19:38] <ikonia> iSchadow: you can have splash images, sure, it's not setup by default
[19:38] <Lasivian> well, I think I know why my webcam doesn't work.. but I don't know how to fix it
[19:38] <soundray> lazy: I offered to work through the issue with you, then I found out that I don't like your attitude. Okay?
[19:38] <ikonia> lazy: I'm not laughing
[19:38] <ikonia> !webcam > Lasivian
[19:38] <lazy> ikonia, ok
[19:38] <calaveraDeluxe> hey, i have a problem with automounting of my usb-drive. there are 2 patitions on it, one is mounted as my user, the other is mounted as root, how do i mount both as user?
[19:38] <DasE1> ﻿iSchadow: busybox ?
[19:38] <experimental> linux or bsd?
[19:38] <iSchadow> dasE1: never heard of it, sorry
[19:38] <ikonia> experimental: thats not on topic here
[19:38] <[c0re]> ikonia, sudo ln -sf /home/c0re/.themes /root/.themes
[19:38] <lazy> soundray, you do not like my attitune on #ubuntu-ru ?
[19:38] <ikonia> [c0re]: I said I would not recommend that
[19:38] <lazy> soundray, you do not like my attitune to ubuntu-ru?
[19:38] <ikonia> lazy: last warning =- drop it now
[19:39] <[c0re]> ikonia, why not?
[19:39] <DasE1> ﻿iSchadow: do you get a grub error or a (overlined with few rows of text) shell (busybox) ?
[19:39] <mircmac> recon61: No the xp latop is a completely different machine with a pcmcia dlink which has worked for years. The new l'top has a intel3945 on MOBO.
[19:39] <iSchadow> dasE1: I installed vista first and then ubuntu so I could dual boot. The boot selection screen is only a black/white command line screen with no GUI, however I'd love to have just a bit of colours as I know it can happen
[19:39] <ikonia> [c0re]: because your launching gui applicatiosn wrong
[19:39] <neonimr> how can I use rsync to execute a remote command before doing the copying?
[19:39] <lazy> ikonia, this person was a bit confused and  i am trying to explain it
[19:39] <Lasivian> actually it's in my video playback, the webcam is supported. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne110L#Video/3D
[19:39] <[c0re]> ikonia, lol really?
[19:39] <ikonia> lazy: he's not confused - please drop it
[19:39] <ikonia> [c0re]: yes, you need to use gksudo as I suggested earlier
[19:39] <DasE1> ﻿iSchadow: so it goes just about customizing grub menu ?
[19:40] <ikonia> [c0re]: launching gui apps with sudo will cause you problems down the line
[19:40] <Lasivian> where it specifically states: "The Option Clone is especially useful if you want to capture video or photos. Without it you will get a black screen on applications like cheese." but what *IS* clone?
[19:40] <lazy> soundray, i do not offenced the ubuntu
[19:40] <iSchadow> dasE1: I guess that's it
[19:41] <ikonia> iSchadow: you need to look at the "splash" option, there are compressed images ready to be used with it
[19:41] <lazy> off
[19:41] <lazy> stupid people.
[19:41] <DasE1> ﻿iSchadow: there is indeed a grahical more expensive way- personally I avoid it , because it was buggy in the past, sry then
[19:42] <soundray> neonimr: not with rsync -- but you can execute a remote command with ssh, and script it together with rsync if necessary
[19:42] <UserC> soundray, how do i um recover the file i just replaced with the last command? lol
[19:42] <iSchadow> is coloured boots buggy with ibex?
[19:43] <soundray> UserC: you didn't replace a file, unless you have a very unusual wine installation. You can restore the original state with 'sudo rm /usr/local/bin'
[19:43] <soundray> UserC: you didn't replace a file, unless you have a very unusual wine installation. You can restore the original state with 'sudo rm /usr/local/bin/wine'
[19:43] <ikonia> iSchadow:  you can do it with any version
[19:43] <iSchadow> ikonia: where do I find the option?
[19:43] <Lasivian> is there any way to get a notification when a specific package has been updated?
[19:43] <soundray> UserC: please use the second version
[19:43] <recon61> mircmac: so how is you AP configured? ﻿ network is cable modem->firewall/gateway(OpenBSD)-> other wired computers & wap ~> laptops , seem like you may need to configure the new laptop on you gateway(OpenBSD) system and not the wap if it operating as a wireless switch. would need to see the ip/sub-net/gateway address of the OpenBSD, the AP and the laptop to tell what its set up.
[19:44] <ikonia> iSchadow: you have to put it in, it's called splash
[19:44] <ikonia> iSchadow: you put it in the menu.lst file, it's documented on the grub docs
[19:44] <Izinucs> Lasivian: that happens only if the package was installed via apt-get from the repo's.. and updates are typically security issues..
[19:44] <UserC> soundray, well whatever happened it causes wine to open a lot of wine processes almost crashing my pc
[19:44] <Izinucs> Lasivian: you won't typically get version updates.
[19:45] <soundray> UserC: I see... sorry, I made a mistake
[19:45] <UserC> soundray, well i hope this will fix it.. if not i'll have to slowly shut down my comp.. lol
[19:45] <iSchadow> ikonia: can I rename the entries in the menu.lst? like rename vista/longhorn (loader) to vista?
[19:45] <eltrkbrd> I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 with latest updates and I'm having problems with Flash even though I downloaded latest .deb from Adobe.
[19:45] <soundray> UserC: here's the corrected version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83670/plain/
[19:45] <ikonia> iSchadow: sure, they are just text entries
[19:46] <ardchoille> What is the command that launches when you do alt+f2?
[19:46] <nibsa1242> Is there a way to roll back my pulse audio to the previous version, the current version 0.9.10 is not working for me. The previous version worked just fine
[19:46] <soundray> UserC: reboot to fix the current problem, or try 'killall wine ; killall wine'
[19:46] <recon61> mircmac: you could have 2 subnets , the BSD router and the WAP router, or you could have one sub net with BSD router and WAP switch.
[19:46] <iSchadow> ikonia: can I also make it show JUST Ubuntu/Vista instead of having ubuntu/ubuntu safemode another ubuntu another ubuntu safe mode memtestx86? It looks pretty messy
[19:46] <iSchadow> ikonia: or would that possibly screw something
[19:47] <UserC> soundray, well i used that command and it worked.. btw i need to change that locale cus without it wine programs stop allowing me to write after 1 character
[19:47] <calaveraDeluxe> hey, i have a problem with automounting of my usb-drive. there are 2 patitions on it, one is mounted as my user, the other is mounted as root, how do i mount both as user?
[19:47] <eltrkbrd> The video is always choppy unless I disable compiz desktop effects
[19:47] <soundray> UserC: strange... have you asked about this on #winehq ?
[19:47] <mircmac> recon61: It's been a long time since I setup the gateway, it's possible I did define what ip's the gateway (gateway is 192.168.53.100) will allow...but I haven't added the wired ip of the new laptop works fine
[19:47] <UserC> soundray, it happened because i installed some hebrew support components
[19:48] <UserC> soundray, i need it anyways to enable hebrew
[19:48] <UserC> soundray, i edited the hewine file, how do i replace it with the wine one again?
[19:48] <biopod> UserC:  you need wine to enable Hebrew?
[19:48] <javadude> I just noticed that FF comes installed with "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" - Im curious as to what that is and does?
[19:48] <soundray> UserC: well, that new wrapper script should work, even if you copy it to /usr/local/bin/wine again with 'sudo cp $HOME/hewine /usr/local/bin/wine'
[19:48] <UserC> bipolar, no i need to enable hebrew support in wine
[19:49] <eltrkbrd> I'm running a P4 2.8GHz HT CPU with an ASUS P4P800-VM motherboard (Intel 865G Chipset) integrated graphics, 3GB DDR-RAM
[19:49] <eltrkbrd> I've been all through the forums
[19:49] <UserC> soundray, done.. now i will try it and hope not to get an extremely slowly computer..
[19:49] <eltrkbrd> everything else works like a dream
[19:49] <fernanchel1> Hello everybody
[19:49] <UserC> soundray, and i'll improve my lines till then
[19:49] <eltrkbrd> just the choppy flash problem unless compiz is disabled
[19:49] <soundray> !info ubufox | javadude
[19:50] <eltrkbrd> any ideas or am I forced back to windows?
[19:50] <UserC> soundray, yay it works
[19:50] <javadude> Excellent... thanks alot soundray
[19:50] <lieP> hello
[19:50] <ComradeHaz> hello all. Gonna spam a few associated channels this one: Anybody working with any large networks having any weird DHCP issues today/yesterday? We think we may have 'caught' something :S
[19:50] <soundray> javadude: you can remove this if you prefer a more upstream-like firefox
[19:51] <javadude> No worries... just wanted to know what it did.
[19:51] <mircmac> recon61: the BSD is NAT'ing between cable modem and the rest of the 192.168.53 wire, so the ap should just pass thru...I think that's what it's doing for the xp box.
[19:51] <fdude> could anyone tell me how to make the sound play through my HDMI(which leads to my TV) instead of through the PC-speakers?
[19:52] <fdude> i've tried switching pretty much anything in the volume control, but im not sure if i do the right thing to check if it works
[19:52] <alexcorn> im trying to set up an apache web server on ubuntu, but im having a strange problem. if i go to http://www.dogstarllc.com, everything works fine. if i go to http://dogstarllc.com, apache has me download the index.php file. I have no idea how to correct this problem. any ideas?
[19:52] <Clonik> I'm building gtk+-2.14.0 from source. It fails with "undefined reference to 'cairo_format_stride_for_width'". What is wrong?
[19:53] <joaopinto> alexcorn, it maybe a firefox cache problem, clear your firefox cache
[19:53] <DigitalFiz> hey do you guys know of any kid of voip fax machine software?
[19:53] <killerboy> i have following problem: when changing volume with volume wheel in my laptop it changes all volumes. i would like it to change only particular volume, is it possible? where are configs etc. ?
[19:54] <recon61> mircmac: should wait till you get home so you can check the setup
[19:54] <soundray> fdude: not sure if that's possible, but if it is, it would require Ubuntu to see your HDMI interface as a sound card. Check whether you can switch over to it with System-Preferences-Sound
[19:54] <alexcorn> joaopinto, that seems to have done the trick. thanks, that was driving me CRAZY for like two hours :)
[19:54] <mircmac> recon61: yes will you be around?
[19:55] <killerboy> i suppose it's somehow compiz connected, but i'm not sure
[19:55] <eltrkbrd> any ideas with Adobe Flash 10 on Ubuntu 8.10?
[19:55] <eltrkbrd> if I disable compiz, no problems
[19:55] <eltrkbrd> clean install
[19:55] <eltrkbrd> latest version of flash (download .deb from adobe)
[19:55] <FFForever> do i need swap space if i have 3gb of ram?
[19:55] <eltrkbrd> choppy video on youtube, vimeo, etc
[19:56] <almark> The packages in Synaptic Package Manager that are not authenticated, is it bad to install them, or is this just like windows warning you to do the same?
[19:56] <centaur5> What is the average length of time it takes for the new ATI drivers to be in the repos?
[19:56] <tmRDRGZ> FANNY JUICE?
[19:56] <thiebaude> FFForever: swap is for when you run out of ram
[19:56] <eltrkbrd> I've tries synaptic to install too...
[19:56] <eltrkbrd> same problems
[19:56] <knut> how can i unpack a *.sit file with intrepid?
[19:56] <FFForever> thiebaude, can u even use 3gb of ram for normal usage?
[19:56] <soundray> FFForever: that depends entirely on what you're planning to do. Many systems run well without, though, even some with a lot less RAM
[19:56] <eltrkbrd> just can't get flash to play nice unless compiz is disabled
[19:56] <cipps> ciao
[19:56] <cipps> !list
[19:56] <soundray> FFForever: of course
[19:57] <thiebaude> i only have 512 mb
[19:57] <rogan> Whats best music file organizer/player for 50k plus library..
[19:57] <FFForever> thxs
[19:57] <eltrkbrd> I'm using Intel 865G integrated graphics on a P4 2.8GHz with HT and 3GB DDR-Ram
[19:57] <eltrkbrd> there is no reason flash should suck so much
[19:57] <pim> What is the current version of openoffice.org in the Ubuntu repositories?
[19:57] <biopod> eltrkbrd: besides compiz's having problems with it.
[19:57] <soundray> !info openoffice.org | pim
[19:57] <eltrkbrd> my internet connection isn't the problem - 15Mbps down & 4Mbps up and flash works fine on windows
[19:58] <eltrkbrd> thanks biopod
[19:58] <biopod> eltrkbrd: you should attack that problem :)
[19:58] <eltrkbrd> any work arounds?
[19:58] <almark> Is it not a good idea to install not authenticated packages?
[19:58] <recon61> mircmac: hard to know, but without being able to check the actual setup cant be much more help.Having a hard time working out how a wireless router can work as a switch to a BSD gateway, think there is another part to the puzzle.
[19:58] <rogan> Whats best music file organizer/player for 50k plus library..
[19:58] <Abu7amza> hello there, I am having a problem in the windows decorator missing, how can i figure out the reason behind that?
[19:58] <eltrkbrd> biopod: you're saying the problem is between compiz & flash?
[19:58] <fdude> soundray, thanks, well i do have this: "HDA ATI HDMI ATI HDMI (ALSA)" as an option, but i didnt hear any sound through my tv when testing it, so i really dont know what to do
[19:59] <pim> soundray I installed openoffice 3.0 from the openoffice website, I removed it and when I use apt-get install it will install version 3.0, I want it to use the standard version
[19:59] <SJrX> IS Fiesty dead?
[20:00] <calaveraDeluxe> can anyone tell me how i can automount my usb-drives as ot?my user and not as ro
[20:00] <almark> is there a quieter Ubuntu channel that I could get my questions from, unbuntu 2 perhaps?
[20:00] <soundray> fdude: try switching everything over to that interface in the Prefs dialog. Then double-click the volume icon and switch the mixer app to HDMI as well. Then you should be able to unmute, change volume etc.
[20:00] <ardchoille> SJrX: Feisty is EOL
[20:00] <mircmac> recon61: Yeah, I'll get in front of the machine later and see what's up...also check my old notes about setting up the gateway. Thanks for your support!
[20:00] <eltrkbrd> biopod: how should I go about "attacking the problem" between compiz and flash?
[20:01] <eltrkbrd> I'm not one to give up easily but I'm out of answers..
[20:01] <ardchoille> eltrkbrd: it might be worth asking in #compiz-fusion if they know anything about the flash issue
[20:01] <soundray> almark: ask your question here. Then, if you find someone helpful, they might go to PM with you or to #ubuntu-classroom if it's free.
[20:02] <SJrX> Is there anyway to upgrade, or willl those broken packages affect me there too?
[20:02] <SJrX> And I guess if I want to get to hardy, I have to go through gutsy first eh?
[20:02] <almark> :soundray thanks, It just seems to me that 1000 plus ppl is alot, so there has to be an alternative
[20:02] <ardchoille> !upgrade | SJrX
[20:02] <thiebaude> bbl, going to study my book Linux Bible 2008
[20:02] <killerboy> did anybody read my message?
[20:03] <ompaul> sjbrown, better idea to download a hardy cd and start afresh, only because you get a clean install
[20:03] <biopod> eltrkbrd: how about some intensive googling session and digging every piece of forum post available on the subject?
[20:03] <killerboy> donno if i should resend it, or look for help in different place
[20:03] <soundray> almark: depending on your question, there might be a more specialized channel that you can go to.
[20:03] <ompaul> sjbrown, and it is less to download than step though a couple of upgrades with possible breaks
[20:03] <rubbs_> killerboy, I just got here, what was your question?
[20:04] <killerboy> i have following problem: when changing volume with volume wheel in my laptop it changes all volumes. i would like it to change only particular volume, is it possible? where are configs etc. ?
[20:04] <almark> :soundray I have this question, is my ati 8500 agp card supported in 8.10 ubuntu, I see screen flickers when I use glxgears
[20:04] <ompaul> almark, typically you would not install stuff if you have no authentication unless you know a lot about what you are looking at and have trust in those who made the packages
[20:04] <allsystemsarego> eltrkbrd, maybe downgrade your flash plugin?
[20:04] <rubbs_> killerboy, it's possible, give me a second to find what you need.
[20:04] <SeaPhor> yioou'd be surprised almark , the ppl here are pretty effective
[20:04] <killerboy> rubbs_, ok, thanks
[20:04] <soundray> almark: do you see the gears in the window?
[20:05] <almark> I understand you guys help but just too many ppl
[20:05] <soundray> almark: do you see the gears in the window?
[20:05] <almark> :soundray yes I do
[20:05] <soundray> almark: then your card is supported.
[20:05] <Acky> http://www.revengeonlora.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=aa3a4aa9fdd8415099a2912b1a3bd45f
[20:05] <almark> :soundray but graphics glitches happen
[20:05] <Barackuse> Howdy Folks
[20:06] <rubbs_> killerboy, quick question.  The volume control, it is a piece of hardware that you want to only control on specific audio channel?
[20:06] <soundray> almark: you can turn off visual effects to try and reduce that: System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects
[20:06] <aar> Hi, is it safe to keep the tor and privoxy ports open by default in my box (i.e. by starting the daemons every time I boot), or should I keep them closed till I need them? Is it a security risk?
[20:06] <rubbs_> killerboy, if so, I what type of laptop do you have.
[20:06] <sschoonmaker> hello my glx is broken  here is the error message:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:07] <killerboy> rubbs_,yes, toshiba satellite a200-1yu
[20:07] <eltrkbrd> I haven't tried downgrading flash plugin
[20:07] <eltrkbrd> let me try that
[20:07] <eltrkbrd> thanks for all the advice guys
[20:08] <USSVoyager> I have a UFW question
[20:08] <almark> :soundray When I move the glxgears window I see copies of it you know graphic glitches, The same thing happned when I used Ubuntu Ultimate 8.1 That thing that turns your screen or flips it compiz I think the screen flashed when that happned to, So could I need a downgrade for my card?
[20:08] <rubbs_> killerboy, k... I'm checking up on it
[20:08] <allsystemsarego> eltrkbrd, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4343118&postcount=23
[20:08] <USSVoyager> When I try to allow access to port 80 on a certain IP range, it doesn't allow access to port 80 at all... whats up with that?
[20:08] <Mi-kun> how do i open a run file?
[20:08] <odonil> Where can I get third party repository lists ?
[20:09] <knut> which program do i need to unpack a *.sit file in ubuntu 8.10
[20:09] <soundray> almark: just turn off visual effects: System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects
[20:09] <sschoonmaker> soundray, almark you are having glx issues too?  mine won't even open when I type glxgears   http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:09] <Barackuse> I have to brag, I now have Ubuntu will all updates, apache, ftp, mysql and wordpress running on Virtualbox hosted by XP.  Sweet!
[20:09] <aar> Mi-kun If it's a script (e.g. called foo) you can run it by typing ./foo
[20:09] <almark> :soundray thanks for your info :) I'll try that
[20:09] <USSVoyager> anyone?
[20:09] <USSVoyager> anyone?
[20:09] <recon61> USSVoyager: maybe because those computer dont have web server
[20:09] <soundray> Barackuse: time to get rid of XP and install it all natively, then
[20:10] <USSVoyager> it does though
[20:10] <Mi-kun> foo?
[20:10] <USSVoyager> because if I open 80 to everyone it works fine
[20:10] <almark> :sschoonmaker What log Do you need to see?
[20:10] <jNoxx> !seen jim_p
[20:10] <rubbs_> killerboy, I think the easiest way to do it is to change the preferences of the volume control applet that is on the panel.  If I've read it correctly, the channel that the panel applet is set to is the one the hardware controls also control.
[20:10] <Barackuse> soundray: I would but sadly I need the XP for working.  Somethings I need it for.
[20:10] <sschoonmaker> log?  here is my error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:10] <calaveraDeluxe> soundray: any idea why my usb-drive does mount as root and not as my user?
[20:10] <sschoonmaker> glxgears won't even open
[20:10] <n8tuser> USSVoyager-> what is your rule?
[20:10] <aar> Mi-kun, what's the program called?
[20:10] <soundray> Barackuse: nm. Well done anyway
[20:10] <rubbs_> killerboy, You can change it by right clicking on the panel applet and choosing preferences
[20:10] <Mi-kun> nvidia linux x86 64 something somethnig.run
[20:10] <USSVoyager> 134.161.1.1 - 134.161.254.254 port 80 ALLOW
[20:10] <jcarlso> Can anyone tell me how to get ImageMagick-devel installed? aptitude says its not a package, I've already installed  ImageMagick 6.3.7 02/18/08, Wand-config isn't available with it. MagicWand requires it to compile: http://www.magickwand.org/
[20:11] <tmRDRGZ> Im running a CFG78v4 motherboard with INTEL DUAL CORE proessor vagina ATI radeon graphics card WHAT DO I DO KNOW?
[20:11] <rubbs_> killerboy, if that doesn't work, I'm working on some other answers
[20:11] <n8tuser> USSVoyager-> umm use the iptables -vL  to list that line, what you typed does not easily translate to the iptables rules
[20:12] <killerboy> rubbs_, which applet do you mean, sound control applet (asking to be sure)
[20:12] <rubbs_> killerboy, yes
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jcarlso chasing dependencies on a program you wish to compile from outside sources can be a pain..  See what all their site says, or look for a deb package
[20:12] <aar> Mi-kun, first make sure it's got executable rights, so you type: chmod +x nvidia linux x86 64 something somethnig.run
[20:12] <aar> Mi-kun, then you type ./nvidia linux x86 64 something somethnig.run
[20:12] <killerboy> nope, it doesn't work that way, it sets ALL controls
[20:13] <soundray> jcarlso: I think what you need is libmagick9-dev
[20:13] <USSVoyager> iptables?
[20:13] <recon61> USSVoyager: what exactly are you trying to do? that dont make sense to me?
[20:13] <nibsa1242> if I installed kubuntu-desktop and I now want to remove it how can I do so? removing package-kubunntu-desktop seems to leave all of the other packages installed
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[20:13] <almark> :soundray I am also having sound issues
[20:13] <sschoonmaker> anybody can help with my glx issues?  please?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:14] <BenAshton24> TmRdgz: perhaps you shud plug in some periferals
[20:14] <soundray> almark: ask the channel a question then
[20:14] <killerboy> rubbs_, in other words, when i change vlume with this wheel it sets all volume controls at once
[20:14] <USSVoyager> I'm going to try a reboot
[20:14] <killerboy> rubbs_, it doesn't depend on applet default settings (checked it)
[20:14] <Mi-kun> aar it didnt work
[20:14] <jcarlso> soundray: thanks I'll try that
[20:14] <almark> Hello, I need help with my alsamixer no working properly
[20:14] <soundray> nibsa1242: why do you want to remove them -- do you need the space?
[20:14] <aar> Mi-kun, what's the error message?
[20:15] <soundray> almark: you need to be a bit more precise than that
[20:15] <Mi-kun> cannot acess nvidia blablabla no such file or directory
[20:15] <recon61> USSVoyager: why open port 80 to incoming connections on your entire network?
[20:15] <almark> :soundray I have enough trouble with google :P
[20:15] <rubbs_> killerboy, k. I'm not sure then off the top of my head, but I'm seeing if I could find something like what you're talking about
[20:15] <Reformer81> If I burn the Ubuntu CD image to a blank DVD, will it still function properly?
[20:16] <USSVoyager> I don't want them to access it from theoutside world
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Reformer81 it is supposed to work.. yes
[20:16] <malnilion> So, I want to use the regular metacity window theme for my windows with compiz but an emerald theme continues to be applied despite having uninstalled emerald, disabled emerald in my compiz script, and removed libemeraldengine0. Does anyone know what my problem might be, google has not been helpful.
[20:16] <Reformer81> Jack_Sparrow: THanks
[20:16] <ardchoille> Reformer81: I've done it, yes
[20:16] <rubbs_> killerboy, just to make sure, when you use the hardware control (wheel) it sets the whole system up and down, but you would like it to only control one chanell (ie. pcm or something) right?
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:16] <nibsa1242> soundray: because I'm having audio issues, and it started around the same time I installed kubuntu-desktop; additonally I never use KDE. Only KDE apps I use are Kate, Konq, and K3b. I can't even use K3b anymore because upgrading to Ibex means the burner on this machine creates coasters.
[20:16] <D-rew> Anybody get gspca compiled for Intrepid?
[20:16] <aar> Mi-kun, make sure you navigate to the right directory (i.e. the "folder" were the file is located) and make sure you're spelling the file name correctly. Also, if the file name has spaces, type inverted commas around it, like this: "nvidia linux x86 64 something somethnig.run"
[20:16] <sschoonmaker> Jack_Sparrow, do you know anything about glx?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sschoonmaker a little, but I am busy elsewhere..
[20:17] <almark> I have a soundblaster Audigy SE 24bit sound card and I cant hear sound, I have the volume turned up in my mixer, I know the sound works though please help.
[20:17] <sschoonmaker> Jack_Sparrow, I would be busy but I cant run my software now that I updated to 8.10
[20:17] <soundray> D-rew: why? It's in the stock kernel
[20:17] <gab3> any way in the shell to identify what TYPE of dram your computer uses?
[20:17] <sschoonmaker> Jack_Sparrow, why would it work fine in 8.04 and then refuse to open whatsoever in 8.04
[20:17] <D-rew> It is?
[20:17] <killerboy> rubbs_, exactly, it's because when it controls all channels it controls mic recording volume too, and i don't wanna it do set it to full volume (you know what is there if you'll set your mic recording to full volume ;-)
[20:17] <recon61> USSVoyager: well, it's the firewalls on the individual machines you need to change then, not the one on the router.
[20:18] <USSVoyager> I'm on the machien
[20:18] <allsystemsarego> almark, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:18] <killerboy> s/what is there/what is happening/
[20:18] <almark> :sschoonmaker Do you have a xorg.conf to show ppl?
[20:18] <D-rew> This is why I need to read changelogs more frequently. ><
[20:18] <DasE1> ﻿almark: is your snd-device listed correctly in alsamixergui ?
[20:18] <ardchoille> What is the command that launches when you do alt+f2?
[20:18] <USSVoyager> this isn't a router I'm trying to set it on
[20:18] <rubbs_> killerboy, ok, I think i'm getting there, but haven't quite found what you need
[20:18] <almark> :allsystemsarego thank you :)
[20:18] <eltrkbrd> almark: I tried this yesterday with my audigy 2 zs and it did the trick - http://www.automaticable.com/2008-05-28/how-to-enable-surround-sound-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[20:18] <Reformer81> Next question:  I have two physical hard drives.  HD1: Windows, Ubuntu partitions.  HD2: /home/ and linux-swap partitions.  How would I go about moving my /home to the first HD?
[20:18] <almark> wow quick service
[20:18] <eltrkbrd> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[20:18] <jcarlso> soundray: That did the trick, thanks
[20:19] <rubbs_> killerboy, found it!
[20:19] <soundray> nibsa1242: I doubt that removing packages will fix the issue, but you could try starting with libarts libraries
[20:19] <LjL> ardchoille: uhm, i'm not sure it's not just part of the panel (or whatever)...
[20:19] <rubbs_> killerboy, go to system/preferences/sound
[20:19] <eltrkbrd> simple and did the trick
[20:19] <killerboy> rubbs_, ok, tell me please
[20:19] <nibsa1242> soundray: ok, remove or add them?
[20:19] <sschoonmaker> my xorg.conf is just the default, but here it is if you want to see:  http://pastebin.com/f782b7504
[20:19] <lily_> question: Ubuntu 8.10, how can I change the icon of a launcher I've created?
[20:19] <DasE1>  ardchoille: just a cmd-line (blank)
[20:19] <rubbs_> killerboy, in there at the bottom is a list of devices you want to control with the hardware keys.
[20:19] <almark> I have sound when I am at the login screen, I hear the drums, but thats it
[20:19] <soundray> nibsa1242: remove (artsd is the KDE sound daemon, it causes trouble in rare circumstances)
[20:19] <almark> I'll check those sites out thanks
[20:19] <pulsewave> i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now when i hold alt and use the scroll wheel on the mouse my windows dont go transparent any more... where can i turn this back on?
[20:20] <killerboy> rubbs, yup it works, thank you very much
[20:20] <claux> hello
[20:20] <nibsa1242> soundray: ok removing libarts1c2a right now
[20:20] <rubbs_> killerboy, no problem glad I could help, sorry it took so long
[20:20] <almark> :DasEl you mean the volume above Gnome right?
[20:20] <sschoonmaker> before I upgraded to 8.10 my glx worked fine.  now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:20] <LjL> ardchoille: i really don't think it's a command, given nothing shows up in "ps aux" when that dialog is open
[20:20] <killerboy> rubbs, no problem, it's me who need help :-)
[20:20] <eltrkbrd> so guys, should I give up on the adobe flash choppiness problem and ubuntu 8.10 with compiz enabled?
[20:21] <eltrkbrd> it sucks because it really forces me to switch back to windows
[20:21] <hwilde> eltrkbrd, are you out of ram
[20:21] <almark> "uses both"
[20:21] <claux> !list
[20:21] <Mi-kun> aar how do i navigate to my desktop?
[20:21] <eltrkbrd> no, I have 3GB DDR-RAM
[20:22] <eltrkbrd> P4 2.8GHz HT CPU
[20:22] <killerboy> rubbs_, i have also some old problem, maybe you could help it too, interested?
[20:22] <ardchoille> LjL: yeah, I've been trying to find it here with ps and gsm, can't find anything so I thought I'd ask
[20:22] <eltrkbrd> it's an older Mobo
[20:22] <D-rew> Hrm...
[20:22] <soundray> nibsa1242: generally, if you've removed a metapackage like kubuntu-desktop, it should be possible to remove the dependent packages with 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[20:22] <rubbs_> killerboy, i can try, hit me
[20:22] <eltrkbrd> Asus P4P800-VM with Intel 865G chipset (onboard graphics)
[20:22] <killerboy> rubbs_, how to change default dvd player?
[20:22] <nibsa1242> soundray: still no sound; still getting W: main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not permitted error in pulse audio
[20:22] <eltrkbrd> everything else works amazingly
[20:23] <nibsa1242> soundray: I allowed sudo apt-get autoremove to run.
[20:23] <pulsewave> i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and now when i hold alt and use the scroll wheel on the mouse my windows dont go transparent any more... where can i turn this back on?
[20:23] <aar> Mi-kun, if you type pwd in your console you will get your Present Working Directory (e.g. /home/Mi-Kun/foo/bar means you're currently in the folder bar). In order to move down a folder (e.g. from bar to foo) you type "cd .." To move up a folder (e.g. from foo to bar) you type cd and the name of the folder (e.g. cd bar).
[20:24] <nibsa1242> soundray: sorry the main issues seems to be this W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[20:24] <sschoonmaker> before I upgraded to 8.10 my glx worked fine.  now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:24] <radecek> hi haw can I run a out file? I make I "hello word", bud I can't run this :(
[20:24] <rubbs_> killerboy, i think it's in /system/preferences/prefered applications.   In there you can hit the drop down and it should have a list of some apps you have installed.  Otherwise you can use the terminal command to specify one that isn't on the list
[20:24] <soundray> nibsa1242: I doubt whether your problem has anything to do with the KDE packages, but I haven't got any good suggestions (don't let my nick fool you, it's to do with ultrasound rather than audio)
[20:24] <rubbs_> killerboy, there might be another way to do it.  I'll check into it
[20:24] <hwilde> radecek, it's a binary, so put ./ before the name to run it   like   ./helloworld
[20:24] <odonil> Where can I get ubuntu software repository list ?
[20:24] <aar> Mi-kun, I reccommend you have a look at basic console commands before attempting to manage your system: http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/basic.shtml
[20:25] <hwilde> odonil, /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[20:25] <soundray> !software > odonil
[20:25] <recon61> USSVoyager: "iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --sport 80 -j ACCEPT"  "iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT"  on the computer that the webserver is on, and you should have another firewall at you gateway that blocks port 80 for inbound connections( which will keep computer not on the local network from accessing webserver). but i not expert
[20:25] <nibsa1242> soundray: I didn't think it had anything to do with KDE, but I was hoping. What makes no sense to me is that the live cd had sound. Installed, there was sound, then within a week or two... no sound.
[20:25] <killerboy> rubbs_, problem is that there is no such entry as dvd player
[20:25] <kushal> I have 5.1 speakers but only 3 out of the 5 speakers work on ubuntu. Please help!!
[20:26] <radecek> thx :)
[20:26] <killerboy> killerboy, only sound player and i've already changed it
[20:26] <rubbs_> killerboy, another way you might try is to right click on a dvd and select properties.  Many times there's an "open with" tab.  From there you can select a player.  I'd have to try this method out myself yet.
[20:26] <rubbs_> killerboy, try just the media player
[20:26] <nibsa1242> soundray: maybe if I get rid of pulseaudio... what is the best alternative to pulse?
[20:26] <soundray> nibsa1242: perhaps the problem is in your user config. Have you tried with a different user?
[20:26] <nibsa1242> soundray: I'll go make one and try that. brb
[20:26] <rubbs_> killerboy, if you don't want all your media to go there then I might have another way for you to do it
[20:26] <recon61> USSVoyager: the web server you setting up is behind a second firewall(a router) I take it.
[20:26] <ZummiG777> Question: I wish to install 8.10 from a flash drive onto a computer without a CD/DVD drive.  What is the best method to load the alternate livecd to a flash drive and make it bootable?
[20:27] <soundray> !install | ZummiG777
[20:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ZummiG777 The alternate is a livecd?
[20:27] <soundray> ZummiG777: the Installation page has links for your exact issue ^^
[20:27] <kushal>  I have 5.1 speakers but only 3 out of the 5 speakers work on ubuntu. Please help!!
[20:27] <killerboy> killerboy, problem is that it doesn't matter, it could even be all media, but it's impossible to set, totem start always
[20:28] <killerboy> s/killerboy/rubbs/
[20:28] <skeruno> Hi there some knows about a bug in gzip compressed tar file bigger that a few gb's (2-4)?
[20:28] <ZummiG777> Thanks soundray.  Jack the livecd is an iso of the livecd, alternate installer.
[20:28] <eltrkbrd> I guess I'll try rolling back to flash version 9
[20:29] <killerboy> rubbs_, and there is also no open with... when right clicking
[20:29] <soundray> eltrkbrd: have you checked for conflicting flash plugins?
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ZummiG777 I am aware of the livecd, I understood that the alt was a tex install and NOT a livecd
[20:29] <eltrkbrd> kushal: try - http://www.automaticable.com/2008-05-28/how-to-enable-surround-sound-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[20:29] <sschoonmaker> nobody can help get glx working??  it worked fine before in 8.04.  I am going to have to reinstall completely  http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:29] <eltrkbrd> I did that yesterday on my Audigy 2 zs with z5300 5.1 sound system and it works perfectly
[20:29] <rubbs_> killerboy, k, got an idea. just a sec
[20:29] <kushal>  eltrkbrd: thanks I would try it
[20:29] <soundray> eltrkbrd: have you checked for conflicting flash plugins?
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> yea
[20:30] <ZummiG777> Sorry, my mistake in terminology
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> about:plugins
[20:30] <rubbs_> killerboy, what version of Ubuntu are you using (ie hardy, intrepid)
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> only the adobe 10.0 rc12 plugin
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> the latest one
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> no others
[20:30] <eltrkbrd> it works fine if I disable compiz
[20:30] <killerboy> hardy
[20:31] <eltrkbrd> I had this problem in 7.10 but it went away when I installed 8.04
[20:31] <soundray> eltrkbrd: compiz is evil
[20:31] <eltrkbrd> now I did a clean install of 8.10 and problem is back :(
[20:31] <killerboy> eltrkbrd, exactly :-)
[20:31] <sschoonmaker> please I don't want to have to reinstall 8.04
[20:31] <neohaven> DjDCH: salut
[20:31] <eltrkbrd> ahh
[20:31] <nbeebo> damn dudes deluge is much faster than transmission!!
[20:32] <killerboy> nbeebo, deluge is good piece of software
[20:32] <eltrkbrd> so guys, what's the alternative to compiz?
[20:32] <Nickste> Hi - I'm having trouble understanding how my hostname should work. If I have a domain xxxxxx.com - that points to my ubuntu server (dns not handled by me), should my hosts file show  <ipaddress> xxxxxx.com <servername> or should it be <ipaddress> <servername>.xxxxxxx.com <servername> ?
[20:32] <DjDCH> neohaven: hey !
[20:32] <Melik> eltrkbrd,
[20:32] <soundray> eltrkbrd: metacity
[20:32] <Melik> whats wrong?
[20:32] <eltrkbrd> hi melik
[20:32] <almark> I need to just get my sound working I don't need surround sound my card is a surround sound card though but I dont have the speakers for it.
[20:32] <nbeebo> killerboy it is
[20:32] <hwilde> Nickste, your hosts file should be your internal hostname, aka the output of the command "hostname"
[20:33] <ardchoille> eltrkbrd: Metacity on its own can do compositing, though it's not as feature-rich as compiz.
[20:33] <Melik> sound card?
[20:33] <hwilde> Nickste, dns can point whatever name it wants to you, that is external
[20:33] <killerboy> rubbs_, so, did you find something?
[20:33] <Melik> what sound card do u have
[20:33] <nest> o kurwa co to jest
[20:33] <eltrkbrd> the problem is that I have an Asus P4P800-VM mobo (intel 865G chipset for onboard graphics) with P4 2.8GHz HT CPU, and 3GB DDR-RAM with clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and latest version of adobe flash (installed from .deb) and I get choppy video on all flash unless compiz is disabled
[20:33] <Nickste> hwilde: Ermmm... I'm not sure I quite understand that?
[20:34] <killerboy> nest, co masz na mysli?
[20:34] <loller> i`ve got problems with running videos in websites , they just can`t run , any suggestion what can cause the problem swf-player or flash ..
[20:34] <rubbs_> killerboy, I think I might, but it depends on what version of ubuntu you are running.  what version are you running (hardy, intrepid?)?
[20:34] <eltrkbrd> I check firefox about:plugins and only 1 version of flash is installed
[20:35] <killerboy> rubbs_, hardy, i answered before, but you might not have seen it
[20:35] <Mi-kun> aar i know those commands but somehow cd desktop doesnt seem to work when im my home directory
[20:35] <eltrkbrd> version 8.04 didn't have this problem with flash & video from what I can remember
[20:35] <allsystemsarego> eltrkbrd, why did you install flash from .deb and not from the repos?
[20:35] <almark> :DasEl I have my card enabled in alsamixer gui want am I doing wrong?
[20:35] <ardchoille> Mi-kun: cd Desktop
[20:35] <Nickste> hwilde: I'm wanting to run apache and a mail server from this ubuntu setup. I'm not sure whether my hostname should be <servername>.xxxxx.com or just xxxxxx.com in my hosts file?
[20:35] <sschoonmaker> help before I upgraded to 8.10 my glx worked fine.  now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:35] <rubbs_> killerboy, sorry I didn't see it
[20:35] <shams> where can i find a good  gedit color scheme for php developing?
[20:35] <eltrkbrd> well, I tried going into synaptic afterwards and uninstalled/ reinstalled from repos but it was the same version and still same problem
[20:35] <killerboy> rubbs_, np, much traffix
[20:36] <hwilde> Nickste, it should just be servername.    the external dns adds your domain
[20:36] <killerboy> sschoonmaker, want help?
[20:36] <almark> :sschoonmaker I think the only way to use an Ati card 8500 is to use the older Ubuntu, I might have to do this myself
[20:36] <eltrkbrd> I installed from .deb because I didn't know any better I guess...
[20:36] <Nickste> ok, thanks :)
[20:36] <eltrkbrd> I'm a noob to Ubuntu...
[20:36] <sschoonmaker> please I don't want to have to reinstall 8.04
[20:36] <rubbs_> killerboy, I think this will do it.  Open up your home folder (or nautilus) and go to /edit/preferences/ then you can go to the media tab
[20:37] <almark> :sschoonmaker I don't want to either, but is this the only way, someone?
[20:37] <eltrkbrd> this really breaks my back though because without flash working properly it's back to windows
[20:37] <sschoonmaker> before I upgraded to 8.10 my glx worked fine.  now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:37] <almark> :sschoonmaker What card do you have?
[20:37] <rubbs_> killerboy, from there you should be able to change the default behavior for dvd's
[20:37] <eltrkbrd> If I installed a new video card instead of using the onboard Intel 865G graphics, that would probably help but I don't have another video card...
[20:38] <isleshocky77> Anyone know if there is a plugin or extension to have a summary panel for Evolution?  Similar to outlook and Kontact that contains upcoming appointments, tasks, and new email.
[20:38] <killerboy> rubbs_, yup, there is somthing, but there is no choice, only totem, or nothing, or ask or open folder
[20:38] <sschoonmaker> almark, I have an ati radeion x1200 or something like that
[20:38] <brutus> jumpy jaguar is ubuntu's next release?
[20:38] <sschoonmaker> jaunty jackalope
[20:38] <almark> :sschoonmaker I have a ati radeon 8500 agp 128 ddr
[20:38] <rubbs_> killerboy: ok try this: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-06/msg02572.html
[20:38] <eltrkbrd> adobe sucks
[20:38] <allsystemsarego> !jaunty | brutus
[20:38] <eltrkbrd> but what's the alternative
[20:38] <almark> :sschoonmaker This is a problem I have read about with Linix, Linux doesn't like ati
[20:39] <Akiv1> Anyone else running GNOME-DO? I am loving it, but find it is extremely buggy. It seems to always crash or not load properly
[20:39] <eltrkbrd> proprietary bs
[20:39] <sschoonmaker> almark, my video card works fine.
[20:39] <rubbs_> killerboy, you can replace vlc in those instructions with whatever you want
[20:39] <eltrkbrd> flash!
[20:39] <brutus> what's with all the animals
[20:39] <almark> :sschoonmaker But not fglrx?
[20:39] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:39] <Mi-kun> ok i think i got the chmod thing to work
[20:39] <sschoonmaker> help before I upgraded to 8.10 my glx worked fine.  now it won't open any glx windows whatsoever http://paste.ubuntu.com/83677/
[20:39] <allsystemsarego> !flash | eltrkbrd
[20:39] <DasE1> ﻿﻿almark: :sschoonmaker prob is xorg 7.4 of ibex, but you can use free drivers
[20:40] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, I am using free drivers
[20:40] <eltrkbrd> ubottu: thanks, will try that...
[20:40] <sschoonmaker> my xorg.conf is just the default, but here it is if you want to see:  http://pastebin.com/f782b7504
[20:40] <eltrkbrd> uh oh...
[20:40] <DasE1> sschoonmaker so then you'll have to set up your monitor correctly
[20:40] <almark> :DasEl why the flickering screen then, that is my problem and I know if I run blender the whole system will crash with DRI on, I have to do the same thing In Gentoo disable DRI do you know what I could do?
[20:41] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, I don't know how.  I didn't have to do that before.  What do I d o
[20:41] <killerboy> rubbs_, reading
[20:41] <hans> hi
[20:41] <nbeebo> how to start a forum?
[20:41] <Lasivian> is there any way to get a notification when a specific package has been updated?
[20:41] <Lasivian> ubottu, you're smarter than some users I know :P
[20:41] <rubbs_> killerboy, np
[20:41] <nun> !send
[20:42] <loller> i`ve got installed flashplugin-nonfree but i still can`t run videos using firefox
[20:42] <loller> the videos just can`t start ...
[20:43] <DasE1> sschoonmaker : I'm about to leave (tired) , xorg of ibex stimes is even empty, as they moved config to other items, but you can still edit /etc/X11/xorg conf, with two things in mind : load the right driver and sepecify your monitor
[20:43] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, my xorg.conf is just the default, but here it is if you want to see:  http://pastebin.com/f782b7504
[20:43] <USSVoyager> Hey I need some help with UFW
[20:43] <eltrkbrd> thanks guys, maybe better luck on upcoming updates of ubuntu 8.10, firefox, compiz, and flash
[20:43] <KemrinH> I need some serious help. I'm using a Dell XPS 1210 running Ubuntu 8.10, and my Keyboard has been disconnecting for some reason. I'll be doing routine tasks like browsing the web or sorting files and it will simply stop working and refuse to accept any imput. The mouse will still work, but I've noticed that whenever my keyboard stops working, I lose the ability to move windows around with the mouse, though I can otherwise interact with them normally
[20:43] <Mi-kun> i just gave it permission but i still got permission denied?
[20:43] <USSVoyager> why is it ignoring the IP range rules that I have setup
[20:43] <DasE1> sschoonmaker : watched it already
[20:44] <eltrkbrd> damn flash, switching back to xp for now...
[20:44] <d0kt0rn> eltrkbrd: Why would you?
[20:44] <KemrinH> eltrkbrd What's wrong with your flash?
[20:44] <eltrkbrd> cause flash is choppy
[20:44] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, but it's a laptop, how would I even go about figuring out everything I need to specify
[20:44] <brutus> ubottu, what's your purpose?
[20:44] <d0kt0rn> eltrkbrd: what version are you using? 9 or 10?
[20:44] <eltrkbrd> I have a clean install of Ubuntu 8.10
[20:44] <eltrkbrd> 10
[20:44] <allsystemsarego> Lasivian, with some heavy scripting, yes
[20:44] <Hix-nix_> et
[20:44] <sschoonmaker> please I don't want to have to reinstall 8.04
[20:44] <DasE1> !x | sschoonmaker
[20:45]  * sschoonmaker stares blankly at DasE1... 
[20:45] <sschoonmaker> so I have to just reinstall then
[20:45] <d0kt0rn> eltrkbrd: can you explain what's happeing, what's your problem?
[20:45] <almark> "is still needing sound help"
[20:45] <sschoonmaker> !alsa > almark
[20:45] <KemrinH> almark: What's wrong with your sound?
[20:45] <eltrkbrd>  the problem is that I have an Asus P4P800-VM mobo (intel 865G chipset for onboard graphics) with P4 2.8GHz HT CPU, and 3GB DDR-RAM with clean install of Ubuntu 8.10 and latest version of adobe flash and I get choppy video on all flash unless compiz is disabled
[20:46] <Lasivian> allsystemsarego, drat, thanks
[20:46] <sschoonmaker> eltrkbrd, so disable compiz already ok?
[20:46] <killerboy> rubbs_, it's strange that there is no configurator for that don't you think, i suppose somebody forgot about in in ubuntu, or gnome
[20:46] <eltrkbrd> yea, but that sucks
[20:46] <DasE1> sschoonmaker : there also is a example for a (configured ) xorg, it's no too geeky, but I'm really tired and unconcentrated I can give only direction
[20:46] <almark> :KemrinH I hear drums in login but thats it, I cant get sound  to work inUbuntu
[20:46] <eltrkbrd> with compiz disabled window look like windows 3.1
[20:46] <nbeebo> how to start a forum?
[20:46] <Melik> do metacity --replace
[20:46] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, so you think it is vsync and hsync and all that?  my monitor displays everything perfectly fine.  I just can't open glx.  It's not a resolution iissue
[20:47] <rubbs_> killerboy, this is true, although sometimes the problem is that the media player developers don't add hooks for the gnome environment to easily use.
[20:47] <KemrinH> almark Have you opened your Volume Control and checked your settings?
[20:47] <almark> :KemrinH If I do a command line sound test then i hear that static sound for testing.
[20:47] <rubbs_> killerboy, what media player where you hoping to use?
[20:47] <d0kt0rn> eltrkbrd: Sorry that I can be of no help but perhaps if you google your issue or try the compiz channel you'd might get some more usefull help
[20:47] <almark> :KemrinH Yep
[20:47] <killerboy> rubbs_, mplayer
[20:47] <Melik> whats a good alternative to VLC/
[20:47] <DasE1>  sschoonmaker : so you got a vid-driver problem
[20:47] <eltrkbrd> I've tried both already, but thanks d0kt0rn
[20:47] <killerboy> Melik, mplayer
[20:47] <ardchoille> Melik: mplayer
[20:47] <killerboy> ;-)
[20:47] <eltrkbrd> :)
[20:47] <eltrkbrd> ubuntu still rocks!
[20:47] <d0kt0rn> !alsa > d0kt0rn
[20:47] <almark> :KemrinH All is fine, what could I be doing wrong, even In Gentoo I got sound working lol
[20:47] <Melik> which would u say is better, vlc or mplayer?
[20:48] <eltrkbrd> just flash sucks cAAAcks
[20:48] <KemrinH> almark have you opened your sound preferences and checked your hardware settings?
[20:48] <sschoonmaker> DasE1, ok I would agree to that...  how does hacking xorg.conf resolve a video driver problem tho
[20:48] <killerboy> Melik, mplayer, only menus don't work, but they will
[20:48] <nbeebo> how hard can it be to get info how to start a forum...
[20:48] <almark> :KemrinH do you mean alsamixer yes
[20:48] <ardchoille> Melik: and if you need dvd menus, try xine
[20:48] <KemrinH> almark No, the basic Sound Preferences window in your hardware section.
[20:48] <almark> :KemrinH I have it on auto atm
[20:48] <frith> does anyone else here have the issues with the kernel panic if near a wireless N gateway?
[20:49] <KemrinH> almark have you attempted to change it to Alsa or something other than auto?
[20:49] <KemrinH> almark It's possible that it's autodecting incorrectly
[20:49] <KemrinH> I'm using a Dell XPS 1210 running Ubuntu 8.10, and my Keyboard has been disconnecting for some reason. I'll be doing routine tasks like browsing the web or sorting files and it will simply stop working and refuse to accept any imput. The mouse will still work, but I've noticed that whenever my keyboard stops working, I lose the ability to move windows around with the mouse, though I can otherwise interact with them normally
[20:49] <Gyron> Can someone here plz help me with setting up my wifi card?
[20:49] <frith> KemrinH, does dmesg say anything?
[20:50] <almark> :KemrinH Default Mixer Tracks CA0106 (Alsa Mixer) <--- my card is on
[20:50] <Gyron> The driver is installed, but for some reason I am having trouble adding the wireless network connection
[20:50] <rubbs_> killerboy, if you do the graphical way (going though the preferences in nautilus, you can specify "other application"
[20:50] <KemrinH> Yeah, it gives a bunch of code looking output. I don't know what it means. What should I look for?
[20:50] <rubbs_> killerboy, this will allow you to select mplayer from the list.
[20:50] <almark> :KemrinH how do I get it detect my card properly?
[20:50] <killerboy> rubbs_, there is no "other application"
[20:50] <rubbs_> killerboy, at least that's what is allowed on mine, but I'm running intrepid
[20:51] <rubbs_> killerboy, ah. sorry then. not sure then.
[20:51] <frith> KemrinH, stupid question, have you tried another keyboard?
[20:51] <KemrinH> almark It may not be able to, you may have to configure the sound preferences yourself.
[20:51] <powertool08> I'm trying to use vnc over a ssh tunnel and it is unusably slow, whats a recommended upload speed for the vncserver to be on? Mine is 512kb/s up and 8000kb/s down
[20:51] <KemrinH> frith The keyboard is built in. It's a laptop.
[20:51] <almark> :KemrinH yeah but no alsaconf , that was so much easier
[20:52] <KemrinH> almark So it's fixed?
[20:52] <frith> KemrinH, that is interesting, i thought it was a usb issue for a second
[20:52] <almark> :KemrinH hardly
[20:52] <Gyron> someone plz help me. The wifi driver for my card is installed, but for some reason I am having trouble adding the wireless network connection
[20:52] <killerboy> rubbs_, what is %m, there is nothing in desktop entry specification about it
[20:52] <almark> :KemrinH where do I configure the sound manually in Ubuntu?
[20:52] <brutus> whats more stable? kde or gnome?
[20:52] <KemrinH> frith No, I'm not sure what's the problem. I think it's software.
[20:52] <jhass840> hey guys, at boot time one of my partitions showed 42.4% non-contiguous blocks and I'm a little worried about it.  What should I do?
[20:53] <KemrinH> almark I'm no expert, but I think you should go to Sound Preferences window and see if you can adjust everything to Alsa
[20:53] <ghaleb> guys I'm really impressed about nx project .. it's really light!!
[20:53] <frith> KemrinH, pastebin me the last 30 lines of your dmesg
[20:53] <recon61> ﻿frith: yep, must say i do have that problem now and then
[20:53] <rubbs_> killerboy, it's what tells the vlc command (in this case) that it should look at the media that is inserted
[20:53] <Mi-kun> how do i switch to run level 3?
[20:53] <KemrinH> jhass840 try fisk
[20:53] <rubbs_> killerboy, I'm not sure if mplayer needs that or not.
[20:53] <ghaleb> thank you nx guys ;)
[20:53] <almark> :KemrinH I have played around with that until i was blue in face "shurgs" I don't know what to do.
[20:53] <frith> recon61, i've only managed to avoid it my turning wifi off, i assume its a kernel 2.6.27 issue
[20:53] <killerboy> rubbs_, but it's undocumented, or i cannot find documentation for it
[20:53] <KemrinH> frith What's a pastebin again?
[20:54] <ghaleb> oh wrong channel sorry!!
[20:54] <jhass840> KemrinH: Thanks, I appreciate the help
[20:54] <KemrinH> almark Sorry, I'm not sure either, you'll have to find someone a little more expert than me.
[20:54] <Gyron> What about me? Is anyone going to help me?
[20:54] <KemrinH> jhass840 Don't do that while you're disk is mounted.
[20:54] <frith> KemrinH, pastebin.com pastebin.ca .org etc etc etc :) pick the one you like the best
[20:54] <KemrinH> jhass840  Just a heads up. Unmount and fisk it from a liveboot CD or something
[20:55] <KemrinH> frith Alright, one second
[20:55] <recon61> ﻿frith: being getting panics since 8.04. but the come and go, not consistent
[20:55] <frith> KemrinH, i don't know what one is the most politically correct one to use
[20:55] <almark> :KemrinH I know what is doing I suspect anyway, I have three sound devices in my computer my onboard intel, I don't use. my sb live I use for old midi and my Sb audigy SE I use.
[20:55] <killerboy> rubbs_, lol %m is deprecated and it's name of miniicon %-S
[20:55] <frith> recon61, i've not had one on 8.04 ever, just 8.10 now
[20:55] <frith> recon61, have you seen if you get it on other distros?
[20:56] <jhass840> KemrinH: I might be able to unmount it and do it right now and do it without the live cd.  It's just a mail partition
[20:56] <kroffe> finns det nån hubblista till dc som fungerar
[20:56] <recon61> ﻿frith: on one distro is enough for me
[20:56] <rubbs_> killerboy, ah, in any case, I've found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843542 it might help
[20:56] <Gyron> frith: are you familiar with how to configure wireless network connections under 8.04?
[20:56] <lucax> is it possible to resume upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 if i want? its gonna take it a while and i dont know if im gonna leave this on
[20:56] <recon61> ﻿frith: to you experience any problems with secured web pages like hotmail?
[20:57] <jhass840> KemrinH: One last thing, is fisk installed by default or do I need to get it from synaptic?
[20:57] <frith> Gyron, so so, i used to do it manually with iw*
[20:57] <KemrinH> jhass840 it's default.
[20:57] <KemrinH> frith http://pastebin.com/d6e20ecff
[20:57] <almark> :KemrinH thanks for your help regardless of this problem I am having.
[20:57] <eltrkbrd> well guys, thanks for all the fish... maybe better luck with ubuntu/compiz and flash in the future... :)
[20:57] <frith> recon61, none on either my laptop or desktop
[20:57] <jhass840> KemrinH: Alright, thank you very much.  I appreciate it
[20:57] <Gyron> frith: What do I do to add a connection once I am in gnome>
[20:57] <KemrinH> almark No problem, only wish I'd been able to help.
[20:57] <Gyron> ?
[20:57] <almark> :KemrinH ;)
[20:57] <KemrinH> jhass840 No problem. Hope it helps.
[20:58] <frith> Gyron, well there is a gnome applet that does it for you,
[20:58] <fdm> Hello, I am looking for a program wich checks my logfiles (auth.log,maillog,apache,etc) for unauthorized access attempts.
[20:58] <Gyron> frith: Could you kindly point me to the applet?
[20:58] <recon61> ﻿frith: well, I was able to reproduce a crash for about one day by nmap 'ing my router , then it stopped. think there is a external net factor to the panics.
[20:58] <ThersiT> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu-Studio last night and in installed alot of other programs as dependencies including a new kernel. Is there any way to easly uninstall all of it mainly the kernel update?
[20:59] <fdm> (....... and blocks ips)
[20:59] <frith> Gyron, have you lost the icon in your gnome bar that looks like two computers? one behind the other?
[20:59] <KemrinH> frith Did you get that?
[20:59] <frith> KemrinH, sorry dude, i didn't
[21:00] <KemrinH> frith No problem, here it is again: http://pastebin.com/d6e20ecff
[21:00] <jhass840> KemrinH: you said it's called fisk?
[21:00] <Gyron> Frith: I see that applet now
[21:00] <KemrinH> jhass840 I believe so, yes. fsck sorry.
[21:00] <KemrinH> jhass840 Misspelled it.
[21:00] <frith> Gyron, right click
[21:01] <frith> KemrinH, ok i was expecting to see something interesting there
[21:01] <KemrinH> jhass840 fsck /dev/sda(blablablablabla)
[21:01] <jhass840> KemrinH: Oh okay, that would explain why I couldn't find it. :)
[21:01] <frith> KemrinH, suggestion, plug in a usb keyboard
[21:01] <KemrinH> frith Nothing of interest?
[21:01] <frith> KemrinH, normally i swear by dell laptops
[21:02] <nikami> nah...dell has gone to crap
[21:02] <nikami> Lenovo FTW
[21:02] <LjL> !ot
[21:02] <KemrinH> frith Yeah, it's worked fine since I installed ubuntu 2 years ago or so, but now I'm getting this odd glitch
[21:02] <ChrisBookwood> How do i make a certain app open on a particular viewport?
[21:02] <Gyron> frith: I right clicked it and selected edit wireless networks
[21:02] <outoftime> hi everyone - my macbook pro running intrepid has suddenly started hard-freezing today. it looks like my GPU temperature is very high - would that cause a complete screen-freeze?
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck > Jack_Sparrow
[21:02] <Barackuse> nikami: I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell D6150 Lap Top
[21:03] <frith> KemrinH, have you upgraded to each release?
[21:03] <Jon5000> Hey #Ubuntu team!  Anyone succesfully share a FAT32 USB drive with a Windows PC on the network??  Have tried all sorts of tricks and still cannot share it!  (Ubuntu 8.04)
[21:03] <gnutron> fdm: sudo grep denied /var/log/auth.log
[21:03] <b52laptop> hi
[21:03] <Robotra> i must say, for an eee specific distro, this is pretty lam
[21:03] <Robotra> e
[21:03] <b52laptop> ppl i have just installed ubuntu
[21:03] <fdm> gnutron: thanks, i got already an answer. i was looking for something like fail2ban
[21:03] <KemrinH> frith I usually format and fully reinstall, only bringing important files like .mozilla and .purple with me.
[21:03] <nikami> i'm sure it runs fine, but the build quality of dells has really gone downhill in recent years
[21:03] <b52laptop> and my default xorg.conf is empty
[21:03] <frith> Gyron, you should be able to figure it out from there, oh wait you can left click it :) should auto scan for you
[21:03] <b52laptop> !!
[21:03] <Robotra> like, what is this shit
[21:03] <LjL> ThersiT: "sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ubuntustudio-desktop" *should* achieve that
[21:04] <KemrinH> frith I'm on Ibex now.
[21:04] <LjL> !language | Robotra
[21:04] <Caduceus> hackel
[21:04] <KemrinH> ubottu Are you really a robot?
[21:04] <frith> KemrinH, dude i am not helping you with pre-release stuff
[21:04] <KemrinH> frith Ibex is the current release
[21:04] <Robotra> ok fine
[21:04] <Caduceus> I need help downloading nvidsdriver without an internet connection
[21:04] <frith> oh intrepid
[21:04] <Caduceus> Could someone help me out?
[21:04] <KemrinH> frith Jackalope is the next step.
[21:04] <ChrisBookwood> How do i make a certain app open on a particular viewport?
[21:04] <Robotra> but you think an eee centric distro would support the hardware ootb
[21:05] <recon61> ﻿frith: here is the syslog of a crash i had a couple of days ago http://paste.ubuntu.com/83704/
[21:05] <frith> KemrinH, sorry i forgot it was intrepid ibex
[21:05] <nikami> downloading implies using an internet connection
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc
[21:05] <KemrinH> frith No problem.
[21:05] <nikami> besides, if you're connected right now, why can't you just get it from the net?
[21:05] <LjL> Robotra: what exactly is this eee specific distro you're talking about? ubuntu isn't eee specific.
[21:05] <Barackuse> can anyone hit this page? 172.20.1.18
[21:05] <frith> recon61, we need to turn debug on for our kernels there is not enough info,
[21:06] <Caduceus> I've got a USB flash drive and I need help downloading the software.
[21:06] <Barackuse> oh never mind
[21:06] <Caduceus> Can someone help me?
[21:06] <frith> KemrinH, so you put in a usb keyboard and all is well?
[21:06] <ibm_> anyone know how to open sig file
[21:06] <KemrinH> barackuse No
[21:06] <KemrinH> frith No, I'm using my normal keyboard. When it happens I just have to reboot and everything is fine again.
[21:06] <subpar> Caduceus: the usb should be able to work if you just plug it in
[21:07] <killerboy> rubbs_, ok, i'm writing simple script, so it should work
[21:07] <Barackuse> KemrinH: Yea I know, its a private IP, I realized that once I finished typing it
[21:07] <KemrinH> frith It's just that it happens often enough to be really annoying, and I'd like to fix it.
[21:07] <recon61> ﻿frith: well, I'm pretty sure my crashers are related to http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/
[21:07] <rubbs_> Killerboy good to know
[21:07] <KemrinH> barackuse Okay.
[21:07] <Caduceus> subpar, Its a wireless USB adapter
[21:07] <Caduceus> and I use it to get my internet connection
[21:07] <recon61> ﻿frith: so how you turn on debugging?
[21:08] <subpar> oh
[21:08] <nikami> anyone know of a better GUI client than XChat? Its OK, but I loved mIRCs window tiling, plus the insane number of scripts available. Invision rocked my world
[21:08] <negge> Does anyone have any recommendations of how I could shrink my Ubuntu installation a little bit. I'm using Intrepid on my Eee and the operating system alone takes up about 3.1 GB of disk space, and this is after I've removed as many unnecessary applications as possible (OO, Evolution, Gimp etc).
[21:08] <Caduceus> A guy yesterday told me to download something called nvidriver or something like that.
[21:08] <frith> recon61, hang on
[21:08] <KemrinH> frith Oh well, thanks for trying to help. I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.
[21:08] <gnutron> Caduceus: you are here as nikami pointed out, why not download it now and put it on some portable media?
[21:08] <subpar> ndiswrapper
[21:08] <k2s> what is the best way to share pictures between two users on Ubuntu 8.10 ? I want to let my wife to work with Picasa under her account and be able to work with the same pictures from my account.
[21:08] <subpar> are you using intrepid?
[21:08] <nikami> what driver are you looking to install? WLAN?
[21:08] <Caduceus> gnutron, where can i download it from
[21:08] <genii> negge: Maybe clear your apt cache
[21:09] <Caduceus> yes i am subpar.
[21:09] <ChrisBookwood> How do I make an application always open on a particular viewport/workspace?
[21:09] <KemrinH> k2s You can establish a folder in the home folder to which you both have permissions.
[21:09] <nikami> The newest kernels have support for most WLAN chips
[21:09] <subpar> Caduceus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:09] <gnutron> Caduceus: i assumed you knew, try google?
[21:09] <subpar> the wiki is your friend :)
[21:09] <Caduceus> #
[21:09] <Caduceus> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/misc/ndiswrapper-common
[21:09] <Caduceus> #
[21:09] <Caduceus> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[21:09] <Caduceus> #
[21:09] <FloodBot1> Caduceus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <Caduceus> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/net/ndisgtk
[21:10] <nikami> lol
[21:10] <genii> negge: eg:  sudo apt-get clean
[21:10] <negge> genii: you mean running apt-get autoclean?
[21:10] <subpar> that's the package yr looking for, though I would make sure that your card isn't supported natively first
[21:10] <Caduceus> ok which link should i press? :|
[21:10] <negge> I already did that
[21:10] <subpar> just read the page
[21:10] <Caduceus> k
[21:10] <subpar> if you can build legos, you can do anything with the wiki
[21:10] <genii> negge: Autoclean only dumps some of them, clean dumps all of them
[21:10] <subpar> it's all following instructions
[21:11] <negge> genii: wow thanks for the tip, it instantly shaved off about 500 MB!
[21:11] <nikami> BTW...anyone have an answer to my client question? Anything better than XChat?
[21:11] <negge> genii: any other suggestions? I think I've used localepurge once before but it didn't seem to matter that much
[21:11] <Caduceus> so put it onto my usb and plug the usb onto the ubuntu computer and it should work?
[21:11] <subpar> Caduceus: it might.. ubuntu supports a lot of cards natively, especially in intrepid
[21:11] <gnutron> nikami: for a gui irc client, probably not, but you may like irssi.
[21:12] <ddggttff3> hi
[21:12] <Caduceus> subpar, I found out mine isnt supported =(
[21:12] <LjL> nikami: x-chat is almost certainly the most developed-for GUI client under Linux, so while some non-GUI client may have more scripts available than it, i doubt you'll have much luck with GUI clients. perhaps the most similar to mIRC would be KvIRC, but then it's a KDE application.
[21:12] <subpar> then follow the directions on that page
[21:12] <nikami> thanks gnutron, but I am definitely looking for a GUI client
[21:12] <Caduceus> okay.
[21:12] <Caduceus> Thanks
[21:12] <subpar> np
[21:12] <Xero> ddggttff3: hey, welcome to the ubuntu irc :P
[21:13] <genii> negge: Thats the biggest one. Also buildup hapens in /var/log and firefox caches, I have firefox set to clear all stuff when it exits. Rotating logs often also helps with the log buildup
[21:13] <Jon5000> $$ REWARD $$ get my USB FAT32 drive shared over windows network...  Will pay
[21:13] <subpar> Jon5000: lol google samba
[21:13] <gnutron> nikami: you could do mIRC via wine, but... cough, xchat is superior imho.
[21:13] <Flannel> !samba | Jon5000
[21:13] <LjL> Jon5000: and with that, you've made sure that a few people will never even consider helping you now.
[21:14] <nikami> I definitely don't want to put KDE on my laptop. Gnome's network manager is so much better and thats important especially since I switch between a lot of encrypted networks and use WPA2 a lot
[21:14] <ddggttff3> um, can i get some driver help? i use a creative x- fi sound card, and i need help geting my 5.1 to work on ubuntu with the official creative driver
[21:14] <LjL> nikami: uh, wait, i'm not a big fan of mixing GNOME apps with KDE apps, but installing KvIRC definitely doesn't mean that you'd *switch* to KDE...
[21:14] <Jon5000> Subpar, I have been ALL OVER SAAMBA.  Totally works for all other folders.  But the USB drive will not share regardless of what i do with permissions, etc.
[21:15] <nikami> I thought about the whole mIRC via wine, but I read that it doesn't run too well and I am definitely looking to migrate to as much OS software as posible.
[21:15] <negge> genii: I'll check the log sizes. My system is fairly fresh (installed about a month ago and haven't been used that much) so the buidup is probably quite small...
[21:15] <subpar> nikami: then just acclimate to xchat.. it's the best one, better than mIRC after you get used to it
[21:15] <powertool08> I'm trying to use vnc over a ssh tunnel and it is unusably slow, whats a recommended upload speed for the vncserver to be on? Mine is 512kb/s up
[21:16] <LjL> nikami: look the only other two GTK clients there are in the repos are Loqui and LostIRC, not much around to try out
[21:16] <nikami> why do you think its better than mIRC? More efficient?
[21:16] <hwilde> powertool08, you can't just do it via command line?  what are you tyring to do (end result)
[21:16] <Jon5000> subpar, in fact I have also noticed other people experiencing the same problem with USB drive shares in forum's etc.  Most unsolved, others with solutions that did not work for me.  hence my $$ REWARD $$
[21:16] <gnu> salut
[21:16] <subpar> Jon5000: well if it's unresolved, then I doubt anyone would suddenly be able to resolve it for money
[21:17] <Flannel> Jon5000: And that's still not the way to go about it.  A properly crafted question (complete with whta you've tried, and what else works, etc) would be a much better way to get that question answered.
[21:17] <unkmar> I plan to create a fai (fully automatic install) of Ubuntu on a USB flash drive.  I'm not understanding the fai instructions.
[21:17] <powertool08> hwilde: well i do alot via cli but sometimes i want gui,so i'll ssh in and start the vnc server only if i need it but its slow, right now I'm wanting to use k3b
[21:17] <ddggttff3> um, can i get some driver help? i use a creative x- fi sound card, and i need help geting my 5.1 to work on ubuntu with the official creative drive
[21:17] <powertool08> hwilde: x forwarding over ssh is even slower than vnc btw
[21:17] <ddggttff3> i use the creative x-fi xtreme gamer card
[21:17] <Jon5000> subpar: just because others' similar issues didnt show up as resolved in the particular forums i found did not translate to "unresolvable" to me....  especially not for the #ubuntu team!
[21:18] <hwilde> powertool08, oh I know.   you should try tightvnc  it has nice cmopression.  make sure you tune all hte options
[21:18] <unkmar> we can assume the install is for CD, as I know how to create a bootable USB of a CD using UNetbootin.
[21:19] <Caduceus> subpar. Are you there?
[21:19] <subpar> yeah, but I'm about to head to work
[21:19] <powertool08> hwilde: i'm using x11vnc because its the only option i've found to let me connect to an already running display without starting vnc with X, can tightvnc do this?
[21:19] <allsystemsarego> powertool08, alternatively use reverse VNC, it's more secure than straight VNC
[21:19] <hwilde> powertool08, yeah of course
[21:20] <beeyatch> hey :) anyone here running ubuntu on 3 (or more) screens on 2 seperat nvidia cards (pcie, 9800gtx)?
[21:20] <Caduceus> Ok okay, I've just got a question but ill ask someone else.
[21:20] <Caduceus> Thanks for your help though.
[21:20] <Gyron> frith: it will not let me enter in the bssids into the wirelesss network configuration window
[21:20] <unkmar> The instructions mention FAI_DEBMIRROR in the fai_conf.  All the needed files are intended to be on the CD.
[21:20] <dalekleader> Q: What is the command to view running processes?
[21:20] <powertool08> hwilde: how do i get it to connect to display :0 days after display :0 was logged into?
[21:20] <unkmar> beeyatch: I'm not, but I have recently.
[21:20] <rickjames> do you guys knowof a converter to take standard movie formats and turn them in to 3gp formats for ubuntu ?
[21:20] <Jimi__Hendrix> u/join #ubuntu-programming
[21:20] <fosco_> dalekleader: ps ax
[21:20] <Gyron> it doesn't even show any wireless networks on the left
[21:20] <hwilde> powertool08, just type umm    vino-preferences    then allow it.  it binds to the current display
[21:21] <unkmar> I don't recall which to PCI cards I have.  not PCIE.
[21:21] <allsystemsarego> rickjames, mencoder
[21:21] <killerboy> rubbs, it won't work so simply, because i have to discover if disc is DVD, VCD, etc...
[21:21] <beeyatch> unkmar: i have a problem to enable twinview via nvidia-settings (not checkable) is that due to a leak of the tool or dosn't it work at all?
[21:21] <hackel> For some reason, Network manager is showing my ethernet device 3 times, and my wifi device twice.  Has anyone seen this behaviour before?
[21:21] <killerboy> :-(
[21:21] <dalekleader> fosco, thx
[21:21] <Jon5000> Flannel, thanks for the critique.  here is a more fully developed question:  I am having touble sharing folders on my USB drive (connected to a pc running Ubuntu 8.04) with other computers on the network that run windows.  I am using Samba and have been able to share other folders succesfully.  From windows I can "see" the folders in question, but clicking on them produces a message saying i dont have permission.  no passwor
[21:21] <Jon5000> d screen comes up.  I have tried to changed the permissions, etc. but that didnt work.  Can anyone help?
[21:21] <rickjames> allsystemsarego mencoder?
[21:21] <Caduceus> hackel! remember me? :P
[21:21] <CyberGabber> Jon5000: Maybe this : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-February/138576.html
[21:21] <Caduceus> I kinda need some more help :$
[21:21] <Jimi__Hendrix> hey guys i installed from the beta cd (cause that was already burned) and it worked well...but when i updated screens have been laggy (when scrolling) and when moving windows around...how can i fix this (compiz wont turn on either)
[21:21] <ddggttff3> can i please get help? i got a creative x-fi xtreme gamer sound card, and id like to get my 5.1 on it working.
[21:22] <allsystemsarego> rickjames, it's in the medibuntu repo
[21:22] <hackel> Caduceus, yes...
[21:22] <powertool08> hwilde: hmm, vino...
[21:22] <ubuntu_> .....
[21:22] <Caduceus> Could you help me out a bit hackel? :$
[21:22] <killerboy> oh, he's gone
[21:22] <rickjames> allsystemsarego: ty
[21:22] <hackel> Caduceus, what is the problem?
[21:22] <hwilde> !vino | powertool08
[21:22] <killerboy> bye
[21:22] <hwilde> !vnc | powertool08
[21:22] <unkmar> anyone here familiar with fai? (Fully Automatic Install)
[21:22] <powertool08> hwilde: i'm aware of vino
[21:22] <hwilde> powertool08, freenx
[21:22] <Caduceus> Remember the site page you gave me yesterday?
[21:22] <hwilde> powertool08, freenx is the bomb
[21:22] <Gyron> Cybergabber: Do you know how to configure wireless network connections?
[21:22] <Caduceus> on section 3.1, I didnt understand how to do that :|
[21:23] <powertool08> hwilde: ok i'll look into freenx
[21:23] <hwilde> powertool08, its very fast
[21:23] <Jimi__Hendrix> hey guys i installed from the beta cd (cause that was already burned) and it worked well...but when i updated screens have been laggy (when scrolling) and when moving windows around...how can i fix this (compiz wont turn on either)
[21:23] <powertool08> allsystemsarego: thanks for the reverse vnc tip
[21:23] <powertool08> hwilde: thanks
[21:23] <CyberGabber> Gyron: No, sorry, why ask me?
[21:23] <h00k> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the Dell's latest BIOS A12 and its effect on the touchpad
[21:24] <Tankado> Any good program for writing a PDF file ?
[21:24] <Jimi__Hendrix> anyone?
[21:24] <hwilde> Tankado, OpenOffice can export to pdf
[21:24] <Gyron> Is anyone here good with wireless connections?
[21:24] <genii> Tankado: openoffice writer can export directly to pdf
[21:24] <Jon5000> cybergrabber: thanks.  thats a link i had not found.  will look into it.
[21:24] <allsystemsarego> Tankado, the cups-pdf driver
[21:24] <hackel> Caduceus, that's for a different card, it doesn't apply to you.  Did you get ndisgtk installed?
[21:24] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : have you got all the restricted drivers enabled?
[21:24] <Gyron> I cannot configure my my wireless connection
[21:24] <genii> hwilde: Darn, too slow
[21:24] <Tankado> geniii,hwilde,allsystemsarego : thanks :)
[21:24] <unkmar> beeyatch: If I Remember Correctly, twinview works for 2 of the 3, but a 2nd X server must run to get the 3rd screen.
[21:24] <hwilde> genii, yep
[21:24] <Caduceus> Yup.
[21:25] <ddggttff3> can i please get help? i got a creative x-fi xtreme gamer sound card, and id like to get my 5.1 on it working on ubuntu 8.10 64 bit
[21:25] <Caduceus> So now I put in the CD for the wireless adapter?
[21:25] <hackel> Caduceus, did you do step 3.2.2?  What is the chipset ID?
[21:25] <Jimi__Hendrix> Xero, thats another problem
[21:26] <Gyron> I have the driver installed for my wireless card, but I cannot add a connection
[21:26] <Caduceus> um nope.
[21:26] <Caduceus> for that i plug in the wireless adapter?
[21:27] <hackel> Caduceus, yes, and run lsusb.
[21:27] <Jimi__Hendrix> i hit activate, it scans for something, then it still says that it is not active...
[21:27] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : so you cant enable restricted drivers? could you explain what you've tried?
[21:28] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : and you have a connection to the internet from your ubuntu installation?
[21:28] <felipe__> #brasil
[21:28] <dowN70> i need help installing dyndns anyone?
[21:29] <sken> how can i uninstall google earth
[21:29] <LjL> sken: depends, how did you install it?
[21:29] <marek_> hi how can i copy system from one disk to another?
[21:29] <Jimi__Hendrix> Xero, yes i do
[21:29] <LjL> dowN70: what do you mean exactly "installing dyndns"? there isn't a "dyndns" package in the repositories
[21:30] <LjL> marek_: both disks being on the same computer?
[21:30] <ProSI2> /who freenode/staff/*
[21:30] <allsystemsarego> dowN70, apt-get install ipcheck
[21:30] <LjL> ProSI2: try without a leading space
[21:30] <ProSI2> /who freenode/staff/*
[21:30] <marek_> LjL yup, one is hdd other is ssd
[21:30] <Charitwo> LjL: he doesn't have a leading space
[21:30] <sken> LjL i intalled it by command
[21:30] <Charitwo> it appears your client doesn't support /who, is there something you needed help with, ProSI2
[21:31] <allsystemsarego> dowN70, or "sudo apt-get install ipcheck" rather
[21:31] <Caduceus> hackel, is the website on step 3.3 opening up for you?
[21:31] <gnutron> sken: do you have googleearth installed in /home/user/googleearth ?
[21:31] <icqnumber> !info ddd
[21:31] <hackel> Caduceus, no, it's broken.  But what does lsusb say?
[21:31] <dowN70> allsystemsarego, run that in a terminal?
[21:31] <sken> gnutron i dunno
[21:31] <LjL> marek_: sudo cp -a -x / /media/whatever   should work fine (-a is to be recursive and preserve stuff like permissions, and -x is not to cross filesystems)
[21:31] <LjL> marek_: then you'll have to install GRUB on it if you want to boot form it
[21:31] <ProSI2> Charitwo: I guess not. yeah I was looking to see if a freenode staffer can help me drop a nick
[21:32] <Caduceus> it says 157e:3007
[21:32] <marek_> LjL does it matter if it is partition with all system?
[21:32] <Charitwo> ProSI2: which nick
[21:32] <marek_> also i would like to create two partitions one for ubuntu one for xp
[21:32] <allsystemsarego> dowN70, yes, or otherwise put "apt:ipcheck" in the address bar in Firefox
[21:32] <LjL> sken: next time install it using the Medibuntu package. installing from random executable files is really not recommended. anyway, it might come with its own uninstaller.
[21:32] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : and do you have an nvidia or ati graphics card? or something else?
[21:32] <negge> ProSI2: if it's a registered nick you can ghost it and then quickly change your nick to get it back
[21:32] <Jimi__Hendrix> ati
[21:32] <zleap> is it a new hdd
[21:32] <Jimi__Hendrix> fglrx driver
[21:32] <zleap> as in empty
[21:32] <LjL> marek_: the command i gave you will only copy a single partition's contents
[21:32] <Charitwo> negge: i believe he wants a registered nick dropped
[21:32] <zleap> install xp first
[21:32] <zleap> then linux
[21:32] <marek_> LjL also what about mbr with grub?
[21:32] <LjL> !enter | zleap
[21:33] <negge> Charitwo: it's better if you explain it, I can't remember the command
[21:33] <zleap> sorry
[21:33] <LjL> marek_: "grub-install" will let you install GRUB to the new MBR
[21:33] <zleap> ok install xp
[21:33] <zleap> install linux
[21:33] <sken> what's medibuntu LjL
[21:33] <LjL> !medibuntu > sken    (sken, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:33] <zleap> linux installer will reduce the xp partition, create a swap partition
[21:33] <zleap> then install grub
[21:33] <zleap> or lilo boot loader
[21:33] <Guest12053> dangit I can't remember how I can pass special characters thru the command line, what do I enclose them with?
[21:33] <Charitwo> negge: nicks which are unregistered after 60 days can be requested dropped, the person just needs to /nick to it and ask a staffer for a drop
[21:33] <Caduceus> uh hackel, what should I do now?
[21:33] <Guest12053> Quotations?
[21:34] <LjL> Guest12053: generally yes, ""
[21:34] <LjL> Guest12053: sometimes ''
[21:34] <ProSI2> Charitwo: "ProSI"... for some reason, while I was setting up pidgin irc before, I had that username and have since deleted that account but it appears to still be connected, hence the 2 at the end.
[21:34] <CyberGabber> Gyron: Tell exactly what's not working, so people maybe can help
[21:34] <hackel> Caduceus, I would try to install the driver off the CD, since I'm not sure which one you need.
[21:34] <Charitwo> ProSI2: that nick is not registered
[21:34] <gnutron> Guest12053: parenthesis will work too
[21:34] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : try installing the ati driver using envy
[21:34] <Caduceus> okay.
[21:35] <Jimi__Hendrix> Xero, how do i do that
[21:35] <hackel> Caduceus, or you could download the latest windows driver from their website.
[21:35] <benbloom_> can somebody tell me either how to resize a window using a keyboard command or where the prefs are for gnome to remember window size/location from firefox use to the next?
[21:35] <ProSI2> Charitwo: but I am unable to switch to it.
[21:35] <Charitwo> ProSI2: you also cannot ghost unregistered nicks
[21:35]  * benbloom_ has never seen this channel so quiet!
[21:35] <ProSI2> Charitwo: what do you mean by that?
[21:36] <gnutron> benbloom_: in gnome metacity alt+f8 to resize a window.
[21:36] <kbrosnan> benbloom_: if your firefox is not remembering its size then firefox's localstore.rdf file may be corrupt. with firefox closed it will be in a subfolder of  ~/.mozilla
[21:36] <Charitwo> ProSI2: only nicks which are registered can be ghosted by nickserv (due to a password being required), see /msg nickserv help ghost - you'll unfortunately have to wait for the nick to timeout and consider registering to avoid that situation in the future. See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup for how to properly setup a nick
[21:37] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html , i just noticed it doesnt list intrepid in the supported list for envyng but its the closest i can get :/ sorry, but i guess you could try :P
[21:37] <Jimi__Hendrix> wait but thats for nvidia...ii have ati
[21:37] <ProSI2> how long does a nick take to time out?
[21:38] <LjL> ProSI2: can take a very long time (days)
[21:38] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : it supports ati as well ;)
[21:38] <dowN70> allsystemsarego, ok thats done now what do i do
[21:38] <Jimi__Hendrix> ok
[21:39] <narcoclepsy> is anyone else having problems with ssh-id-copy? It was working, updated the server, and now it doesn't work
[21:39] <narcoclepsy> even after reinstalling the key
[21:39] <prosi2> thank you for your help Charitwo and LjL
[21:40] <Charitwo> np
[21:42] <benbloom_> Every time I open firefox it opens in what looks like fullscreen mode. if I then hit f11 it goes into what is actually full screen mode, and if i hit it again it looks like it should in the first place. this is really annoying to have to hit f11 twice every time i open a browser window. is this a bug ? or some preference that i have accidently set??
[21:43] <Slart> benbloom_: sounds like you've got some kind of window decorator problem.. I've heard a lot of questions about this lately.. might be a bug in firefox
[21:43] <Slart> benbloom_: have you searched the forums?
[21:43] <gnutron> benbloom_: kbrosnan answered you. try /lastlog benbloom_
[21:45] <Nab> hi all
[21:45] <Caduceus> hacekl
[21:45] <Caduceus> hackel*
[21:45] <Caduceus> I tried to download it from the CD and it said null :(
[21:46] <Phase> Whats the difference between abrowser and firefox?
[21:46] <Slart> Phase: same as the difference between a car and a ford
[21:46] <Jimi__Hendrix> Xero, it wont work
[21:46] <Slart> Phase: unless abrowser is something new..
[21:47] <Slart> !info abrowser
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> CAN ANY1 TEECH ME TO HAK????
[21:47] <benbloom_> gnutron, that is not in my log. something happened to my connection there (hence the comment about it being so quiet)
[21:47] <Slart> Phase: oh.. I'll go sit in the corner.. nevermind me
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ?
[21:47] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : does it give an error message?
[21:47] <Vhghost> can anyone shed some light on why i can't seem to recieve dcc file transferes? it shows up in xchat tranfer file window but will not start the transfer! ?
[21:47] <Phase> Slart, good boy. ;)
[21:47] <fosco_> JOHNNY_BOI: wrong channel, this is for ubuntu assistance only
[21:47] <Jimi__Hendrix> yes about kernel headers
[21:47] <benbloom_> am i still here? grrr. guess my computer's having problems!
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> OMG FU GUYZ WTF JUS WAN SUM HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FU
[21:47] <Slart> !ops | JOHNNY_BOI
[21:47] <kaos_> hello
[21:47] <JOHNNY_BOI> inb4ban :(
[21:48] <JOHNNY_BOI> slow ops are slow
[21:48] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : and youre on ubuntu intrepid i presume?
[21:48] <Slart> Phase: isn't the name and logo for firefox registered and non-free ? isn't this why we have iceweasel? might abrowser be a noname firefox?
[21:48] <hackel> Caduceus, sorry, I need more details.  Actually I haven't used ndiswrapper in quite a long time so I'm not sure.  Hopefully someone else here can help you.
[21:48] <Jimi__Hendrix> 8.10...yes
[21:48] <gnutron> benbloom: kbrosnan> benbloom_: if your firefox is not remembering its size then firefox's localstore.rdf file may be corrupt.  with firefox closed it will be in a subfolder of  ~/.mozilla
[21:48] <ghaleb> guys, how can I make gnome menus transparent like this image http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=74813&file1=74813-1.jpg&file2=74813-2.jpg&file3=74813-3.jpg&name=Overglossed ?
[21:49] <nubuntu> how can I configure internet sharing across two NICs without using firestarter
[21:49] <dva5912> Ok i just lost my X screen. I cant get back into linux. And honestly i dont realy want to so my question how do i remove Grub and put Windows Boot managet back in its place?
[21:49] <Slart> !ics | nubuntu
[21:49] <Phase> Slart, Maybe, but the real reason I want to know is, I want another browser (or at least another firefox) with completely different path directories so one will not  interfere with the other (profiles/addons/saved passwords/cookies all different)
[21:49] <Halitech> dva5912, boot from your windows install cd, go into recovery and restore the windows boot manager
[21:49] <Slart> nubuntu: basically you create a couple of iptables rules.. perhaps install a dhcp server and you're done
[21:49] <Xero> Jimi__Hendrix : ...you might be able to get it to work by installing hardy first, using envyNG, then upgrading to intrepid, but i'm not sure... sorry, i'm at a loss here :/
[21:50] <dva5912> Halitech: Un able to. This is an OEM machine. I have no Vista disk. Unless you know where to get one
[21:50] <Slart> Phase: ah.. I have no idea how abrowser does that.. it doesn't have some kind of site?
[21:50] <benbloom_> ok-- trying this again! something seems to be messed up with my computer
[21:50] <Halitech> dva5912, any option to create disks from within windows?
[21:50] <Phase> I dunno yet, this was my first stop in trying to figure out what exactly abrowser does :P
[21:51] <dva5912> Halitech: Not to my knowledge unless you know of a way with Gateway
[21:51] <Halitech> dva5912, sorry, can't say I do, never had one
[21:51] <Max101> hi guys
[21:51] <Max101> i need some help
[21:51] <Phase> Slart, It looks like it just removes the Mozilla branding and adds it's own.. to the existing firefox-3.0 install.
[21:51] <Halitech> dva5912, maybe google gateway (your model) and create install cd
[21:52] <Max101> i installed Mint and everything works fine except my sound, i dont have sound
[21:52] <Flannel> !mintsupport | Max101
[21:52] <LjL> Max101: this is not the Mint channel
[21:52] <Max101> thanks
[21:52] <dva5912> Halitech: i think ive found a website that has the vista boot disk on it at 120 mb.... wierd. Im DOwnloading.
[21:52] <Caduceus> Thanks for your time anyways, hackel.
[21:53] <Caduceus> Anyone here who uses  ndiswrapper and can help me?
[21:53] <Halitech> dva5912, an install cd/dvd should be much bigger then that for vista, maybe look into super grub boot disk
[21:53] <Vhghost> Xchat not recieving dcc transferes / shows up in transferes window but does not start .. any ideas ?
[21:53] <Jimi__Hendrix> anywhere else i can go?
[21:53] <dva5912> Halitech: the site says its just a restore cd
[21:53] <Jimi__Hendrix> ill post on the forums but any other irc's are good
[21:55] <Halitech> dva5912, hmmmm maybe but I don't know
[21:55] <Caduceus> Hey, is there anyone here who uses ndiswrapper?
[21:55] <krish> what's the command to remove a software from ubuntu server?
[21:55] <Halitech> sudo apt-get remove name_of_program
[21:55] <fosco_> krish: sudo apt-get remove program
[21:56] <sjbrown> Caduceus, i'm trying to use it
[21:56] <sjbrown> failing
[21:56] <gnutron> krish: apt-get autoremove package-name
[21:56] <ring> g
[21:56] <gnutron> krish: remove also works :)
[21:57] <obi_> can anyone tell me anything about how to set up dual monitors in intrepid. i can sort of do it through screen resolution but its not very good. i would prefer just to do it with a gui rather than editing xconfig
[21:57] <Ketzusaka> If apt-get can't verify the public key does it still look in the respository for the package?
[21:57] <fosco_> yes
[21:57] <sproingie> is there a tortoiseCVS equivalent or similar for nautilus?
[21:57] <fosco_> but it will warn you
[21:57] <sproingie> or, daring to stray offtopic a little, for kde?
[21:58] <jzitt> I'm trying to iterate through a test file with a bash for loop. I want it to handle the file a line at a time, but it's breaking it into individual words. Is there a way to get it to handle it a line at a time?
[21:58] <Halitech> sjbrown, what do you get for a failure message?
[21:59] <Max101> what was the server/channel for linux mint support again?
[21:59] <sjbrown> Halitech, no failure message.  everything says it works, but i don't see any wifi networks
[21:59] <eseven73> sproingie: emacs has cvs capabilities have you tried it? if you want the very newest one 'sudo apt-get install emacs-snapshot'
[21:59] <robd> Hi guys!
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> I'm having a bit of a DNS issue.  'ping <machinename>.local' works fine, but just 'ping <machinename>' gives "unknown host".  How can I make both work?  (I already have "search local" in /etc/resolv.conf.)
[21:59] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: doesn't seem to be working. After adding a source, then updating it, and running apt-get install libapache2-mod-passenger it says it can't find the package
[22:00] <jzitt> I doing, for example ... for i in `cat myfile` ; do ; echo "foo $i done" ; done
[22:00] <sproingie> eseven73: i like emacs's cvs capabilities, i use 'em all the time.  i'm looking for file browser integration
[22:00] <robd> Has anyone installed Ubuntu 8.10 on a Windows Hyper-V server?
[22:00] <Ketzusaka> http://www.modrails.com/install.html following instructions on that
[22:00] <rose> Hey People! Since I updated to Ubuntu 8.4, nautilus does not work with ftp:// directories anymore. Any idea?
[22:00] <sproingie> eseven73: dired isn't my idea there :)
[22:00] <gnutron> Ketzusaka: yes it will but it should warn you before installing
[22:00] <Caduceus> im having problems with my wireless USB adapter.
[22:00] <robd> Just curious if there's any tweaking I need to do or if I can just load up the install cd and be good to go.
[22:00] <Halitech> sjbrown, what is the output of sudo iwconfig?
[22:00] <eseven73> sproingie: ah gotcha
[22:00] <fosco_> Ketzusaka: try sudo aptitude search libapache2
[22:00] <Max101> where do i go for linux mint support?
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> rose: as in just typing it in directly, or using the "Connect to Server" dialogue?
[22:00] <tonyyarusso> Max101: check their web site.
[22:01] <Daniel_NL> oy
[22:01] <Max101> i tried, no use. i need an irc
[22:01] <eseven73> sproingie: kdesvn is cool
[22:01] <sjbrown> Halitech, i'll pastebin it
[22:01] <Halitech> Max101, #linuxmint on irc.spotchat.org
[22:01] <Caduceus> I've downloaded ndiswrapper and need some help.
[22:01] <rose> tonyyarusso: typing directly.
[22:01] <sproingie> kde's got cervseia but i never liked it that much.
[22:01] <Max101> thanks Halitech
[22:01] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: isn't on there.
[22:01] <sproingie> eseven73: sadly i'm stuck with cvs in this particular case
[22:01] <pulsewave> how can i tell if im running ubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[22:01] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: But the update command sees it
[22:01] <Slart> pulsewave: uname -a
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> Max101: They list their IRC channel on their web site...
[22:01] <tonyyarusso> rose: try the other and see if that works first.
[22:01] <pulsewave> i686 = 64bit?
[22:01] <robd> Has anyone here installed Ubuntu as a guest OS under Hyper-V?
[22:01] <gnutron> pulsewave: in a terminal type uname -m
[22:02] <klync> pulsewave: i686 = pentium
[22:02] <fosco_> pulsewave: no, 32bit
[22:02] <Halitech> pulsewave, i686 is 32bit
[22:02] <Slart> pulsewave: it will either say i686 or x86_64  or similar
[22:02] <rose> tonyyarusso: i dont see a "connect to server" thingy in the menu.
[22:02] <tonyyarusso> rose: under Places
[22:02] <sproingie> robd: googling the two relevant words pulls up all kinds of hits
[22:03] <robd> sproingie: I didn't find anything specific for 8.10... Just thought I'd ask here
[22:03] <nbeebo> nothing sucks more than firefox's flash, why dont they fix it? thinking about chaning to windows again dammit
[22:03] <rose> tonyyarusso: nothing works anymore. it always says stuff like "nautilus cannot handle ftp: places" and "nautilus cannot handle network: places" etc.
[22:03] <sproingie> robd: i imagine the same applies
[22:03] <Phase> Slart, I'm taking the cheapshot route, booting my laptop for what I want to do :P
[22:03] <Slart> nbeebo: write an email to adobe.. let them know how you feel
[22:03] <sproingie> robd: looks like some caveats around network interfaces, but otherwise goes smooth
[22:03] <pulsewave> Ok, I'm running 32bit, i have a Duo should i be running 64bit?
[22:04] <Ketzusaka> fosco_: Shoud i pastebin the update ?
[22:04] <sproingie> if you don't know if you need 64 bit you probably don't
[22:04] <Slart> Phase: hehe... at least it works.. I hope =)
[22:04] <fosco_> Ketzusaka: ok
[22:04] <h00k> I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with the Dell's latest BIOS A12 and its effect on the touchpad
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> rose: hrm...I've never seen that.  Not sure.
[22:04] <Slart> pulsewave: not unless you have 4GB or more memory
[22:04] <pulsewave> Ketzusaka: trying to learn
[22:04] <pulsewave> nope only 2 gig
[22:04] <kbrosnan> nbeebo: Mozilla firefox has little relation to the quality of Adobe's Flash player
[22:04] <obi_> does anyone know of a frontend for dual monitors
[22:04] <pyrak> command to list attached storage devices?
[22:04] <pyrak> need to know the arg to umount
[22:04] <sjbrown> Halitech, http://code.bulix.org/3jtj09-69211?raw
[22:04] <nbeebo> ok, linux sucks then
[22:04] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: df -h
[22:05] <sproingie> if you have less than 4G RAM, you won't get immediate benefit from 64 bit.  it's just a tiny bit faster in some areas, but you unfortunately lose more to pointer bloat and poor architecture ports
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> nbeebo: ...  Linux also has nothing to do with flash.  It's Adobe's fault.
[22:05] <pulsewave> thank you sproingie
[22:05] <ikonia> nbeebo: none of this is anything to do with linux or ubuntu, so use the proper support resources
[22:05] <Torne> i have my rootfs on LVM, and I just converted it to a mirrored LV. The initramfs now fails to mount the root :(
[22:05] <ikonia> nbeebo: this is for ubuntu related support only
[22:05] <nbeebo> its still all thier fault
[22:05] <Slart> nbeebo: not really something we can do something about here.. if you just want to rant and let off some steam I recommend #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:05] <myk_robinson> hey guys. Any words of wisdom to speed up USB transfer in 8.10?
[22:05] <nbeebo> ok i see
[22:05] <pyrak> tonyyarusso, is at that only mounted drives?
[22:05] <Torne> dm_mirror is loaded, and it finds the mirror compoents.. any ideas why? :)
[22:05] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: yes
[22:05] <ikonia> Torne: how did you use a mirrored LV as lvm doesn't have mirror-view
[22:05] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, you have a good connection, its just not associated yet
[22:05] <Ketzusaka> http://pastebin.ca/1282028
[22:05] <Torne> ikonia: yes it does
[22:06] <ikonia> Torne: ahhh dm-mirror
[22:06] <ikonia> Torne: just saw your next post
[22:06] <Torne> ikonia: lvconvert -m1 /dev/mapper/whatever :)
[22:06] <Torne> but yeah, now it doesn't boot
[22:06] <h00k> nbeebo, Yeah, that's definitely Adobes fault for lack of support.  Please let them know how you feel.
[22:06] <Torne> it creates the dm node for the LV, but doesn't add a table to it
[22:06] <Torne> so it can't be mounted
[22:06] <pyrak> tonyyarusso, i need to find the location of a drive that isn't mounted yet
[22:07] <pyrak> so that i can mount it
[22:07] <sjbrown> Halitech, i'm not sure what that means.  so the driver is loaded.  i'm confident of that
[22:07] <iBrick> can i set up dual-booting after i've finished installing both vista and ubuntu?
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: what about if you break the mirror, does it boot then
[22:07] <ikonia> iBrick: yup
[22:07] <ikonia> iBrick: easier to install vista first, then ubuntu
[22:07] <Torne> ikonia: can't unless i boot into a livecd or similar :)
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: Best way is probably 'ls /dev/sd*', and figure out which one isn't mounted yet by comparing to the previous list then.
[22:07] <sjbrown> but i don't think it's doing the right thing with my hardware, or else it is not displaying the networks i know to exist around me
[22:07] <Torne> ikonia: initramfs has no useful tools in it, of course :)
[22:07] <Ketzusaka>  hmm
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: of couse.....
[22:07] <nbeebo> h00k, last comment about this on #ubuntu, linux should work harder to fix it, in every way, its not linux's fault wine doesnt work, its windows... well k thanks bye
[22:07] <Ketzusaka> Seems like it's not finding the package propery >.>
[22:07] <jabop> recon61: I was using thunderbird, which did it successfully. for example, when I read mail in evolution, my iphone still displays it as unread. it's very annoying.
[22:07] <jabop> oops, sorry about that
[22:07] <jabop> ignore :P
[22:07] <ikonia> Torne: pondering now.......
[22:08] <ikonia> Torne: what actual error is it giving on boot
[22:08] <marceldv> Is dkms installed by default in ubuntu intrepid?
[22:08] <iBrick> and i need to use grep?  is that correct?
[22:08] <Halitech> sjbrown, yes, driver is loaded, try sudo iwconfig scan
[22:08] <iBrick> -dual booting
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: no
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: grep is nothing to do with dual booting
[22:08] <sproingie> when wine discovers what proper release engineering is about in its free versions, then linux distros might be able to do something about it
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> marceldv: I believe yes, but wouldn't totallly swear to it.
[22:08] <Torne> ikonia: device-mapper: table: 254:3: mirror: Error creating mirror dirty log
[22:08] <Ketzusaka> is there a way to view the packages available from a single source?
[22:08] <ikonia> iBrick: install vista, then ubuntu it should do it all for you
[22:09] <Torne> ikonia: is the error that prevents the table from being installed for the lv
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: I'm following, interesting
[22:09] <Wickk> for me to upgrade to Ibex from hardy would I have to back up everything and just reinstall all my programs or can I just upgrade and leave all my files on my hardrive?
[22:09] <Halitech> sjbrown, sorry, sudo iwlist scan
[22:09] <marceldv> I actually need to be sure :) ... Probably found a bug in the apt system..
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: so the mirroring is breaking it, no need to break the mirror then
[22:09] <Torne> ikonia: 254:3 is the node for the real LV
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: yup, make sense,
[22:09] <Torne> it happily mapped 0-2, which are the two halves of hte mirror and hte disklog
[22:09] <ikonia> marceldv: what's the issue
[22:09] <Halitech> Wicked, yes but I'd back up just to bed saef
[22:09] <ikonia> Torne: so it mapped the two individual disks, but not the mirror node
[22:10] <sjbrown> Halitech, hm.  that shows the networks
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: and the log LV as well, yeah
[22:10] <iBrick> ikonia: what do you mean?  sorry, linux newbie here
[22:10] <sjbrown> but i don't see them in the Gnome network tool
[22:10] <tonyyarusso> Wickk: you should be able to just upgrade, but it is recommended to make backups of course.
[22:10] <ikonia> iBrick: install vista, then install ubuntu, dual booting should be setup automaticlly for you
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: unfortunately google mostly returns references to the dm source code :)
[22:10] <Wickk> K thanks, wasn't sure
[22:10] <ikonia> Torne: how useful
[22:10] <Torne> ikonia: for that error
[22:10] <Lasivian> sigh
[22:10] <Lasivian> I hate it when I try to fix something and screw up something else that was working
[22:10]  * Lasivian reinstalls Ubuntu, again
[22:10] <ikonia> Torne: is there a udev rule assinged for mirrored devices
[22:11] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, good sign, now we just need to connect to it
[22:11] <ikonia> Torne: I'm just thinking what could cause the situation
[22:11] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok.. After I deinstalled VirtualBox (from the virtualbox repo's). dkms appeared in the 'obsolete' filter. Meaning it has been installed by VirtualBox.
[22:11] <iBrick> heh... how do i get both OS's up and running at the same time?
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: you don't
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: thats not dual boot
[22:11] <ikonia> iBrick: you boot one or the other
[22:11] <Torne> ikonia: mirrors are identical to any other dm device to udev, afaik
[22:11] <pyrak> how do i ask whether or not a volume is mounted?
[22:11] <Torne> ikonia: it's not the device node that's broken, but the dm table itself
[22:11] <ikonia> Torne: I would expect so, thinking out loud
[22:11] <h00k> iBrick, you could one inside the other with virtualization like Virtualbox
[22:12] <Torne> ikonia: dmsetup shows the node as having no table
[22:12] <ikonia> Torne: yes, but what would cause the table to not be created
[22:12] <Torne> well, that error did, i assume
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> pyrak: see if it's in the output of 'mount' / etc/mtab.
[22:12] <Torne> since ht next line is ioctl: error adding target to table
[22:12] <Torne> :)
[22:12] <iBrick> h00k: are there any limitations there?
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok.. After I deinstalled VirtualBox (from the virtualbox repo's). dkms appeared in the 'obsolete' filter. Meaning it has been installed by VirtualBox.
[22:13] <sjbrown> Halitech, i await your wisdom
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: I mean the 'auto removable' status
[22:13] <ikonia> marceldv: does virtualbox depend on dkms ?
[22:13] <h00k> iBrick, well, it depends on your amount of system memory, etc that you allocate to the guest operating system
[22:13] <marceldv> ikonia: I believe so.. let me check
[22:13] <Halitech> sjbrown, do you have a network manager up by your clock?
[22:14] <iBrick> i wouldn't need much to just run an ssh daemon would I?
[22:14] <sjbrown> i can add one maybe...
[22:14] <ikonia> Torne: just looking at my box now to see what would/could cause that senario and there is nothing obvious
[22:14] <marceldv> ikonia: virtualbox 'recommends' dkms
[22:14] <keystr0k> is there a way to get instant rss feed notifications if there is a new post/feed entry?
[22:14] <sjbrown> nm-applet
[22:14] <ikonia> marceldv: apologies, but I'm not seeing the problem, you've installed virtual box, it's pulled down a dependency, you've removed virtual box,whats teh issue
[22:15] <rafting> How can I turn off the encryption of my wireless network so anyone can sign on? I cant possibly do that from Ubuntu if I cant get on to the netwrok in the firsrt place right because then what would be then point at all?
[22:15] <Lasivian> any idea why cheese would suddenly show no resolution options?
[22:15] <sjbrown> huh.  now it's showing up in there
[22:15] <h00k> rafting, reset the router would work
[22:15] <Slart> rafting: do you have some kind of wireless router?
[22:15] <rafting> Slart: yes
[22:15] <Slart> rafting: can't you connect to it using the wired connection?
[22:15] <Halitech> sjbrown, yes, that should work
[22:16] <lucax> i cant install kubuntu-kde4-desktop thisis what i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/83728/
[22:16] <sjbrown> but it doesn't show up in the "Network Settings" dialog
[22:16] <veritos> Is there a way to mark a package as automatically installed (for autoremove purposes) at install time? Similar to "emerge --oneshot" in Gentoo.
[22:16] <marceldv> ikonia: Well i thought dkms would be install by default on ubuntu intrepid install.
[22:16] <sjbrown> the one from System->Administration->Network
[22:16] <ikonia> marceldv: it's not a dependency so it won't
[22:16] <rafting> Slart: the wired is setup differently it was a huge pain in the ass to get it working in the first place
[22:16] <Halitech> sjbrown, if you click on it, do you get an option to connect to wireless networks?
[22:16] <nate> anybody know whats up with us.archive.ubuntu.com ? I'm getting 404 errors on feisty/main, feisty/restricted, feisty/universe and feisty/multiverse
[22:16] <Lasivian> or how do I reload a driver for a device that's not detecting right?
[22:16] <Torne> ikonia: guess i will just have to mess with it. thanks for trying, though
[22:16] <ikonia> Torne: still playing here
[22:16] <Slart> rafting: then you need to read the manual for the router.. or temporarily use some other computer that *can* connect to the wireless network
[22:16] <ikonia> Torne: I've just done a none-root file system and it worked
[22:17] <Torne> yeah i've done this exact conversino thign before
[22:17] <Torne> on debian
[22:17] <sjbrown> Halitech, yes.  i just tried to connect to my intended one.  it's spinning...
[22:17] <marceldv> ikonia: Ok,, thanks anyway :)
[22:17] <Torne> on the rootfs even. and that worked :)
[22:17] <sjbrown> now it's showing 4 bars
[22:17] <Halitech> nate fiesty is I think not supported any longer so the repo is changed
[22:17] <Torne> so either it's some freak accident, or the different kernel/initramfs is a problem
[22:17] <rafting> Slart: ok im dumb im using vista now, so how can i change the authoirty? and to what?
[22:17] <Halitech> sjbrown, ok, you should be connected then
[22:17] <Slart> rafting: that would depend entirely on your router..
[22:17] <Slart> rafting: usually is has some kind of web interface where you can change stuff
[22:18] <Ketzusaka> What does "c" mean in aptitude search [term] ? (I see p for package, i for installed, but not sure what c is?)
[22:18] <sjbrown> Halitech, ok.  nice. thanks.  but why is Network Settings still empty?
[22:18] <Bsims> I just discovered a usefull trick df -h shows free space in real gigs and df -H shows them in marketing gigs
[22:18] <Torne> Ketzusaka: it's the package status. p is purged, as in not installed at all
[22:18] <Ketzusaka> ah
[22:18] <Bsims> Ketzusaka: configured?
[22:18] <ikonia> Bsims: thats well known and documented
[22:18] <Torne> Ketzusaka: c is config-files-only. ie the package has been removed but the config not deleted
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> Bsims: Not sure
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> torne: ah okie
[22:19] <Bsims> ikonia: I know it is but it still bit me when I installed my new HD
[22:19] <Torne> Ketzusaka: if you want them gone too, apt-get --purge remove foo
[22:19] <Halitech> sjbrown, no idea
[22:19] <redrebel> how come openoffice 3.0 is not available through apt?
[22:19] <aLeSD> hi all
[22:19] <scottpledger> does anyone here know why when firefox has focus, flash is extremely choppy, but when another window has the focus, it works just fine?
[22:19] <Bsims> redrebel: too new
[22:19] <Halitech> nate, change your sources.list to be like this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[22:19] <aLeSD> do u know a good audio converter ?
[22:19] <Ketzusaka> this is weird =[
[22:19] <aLeSD> i mean a gui
[22:19] <pyrak> i need someone to hold my hand through the process of installing a new hard drive on a command-line machine
[22:19] <Halitech> aLeSD,  audacity
[22:19] <Slart> redrebel: something about it not being good enough..
[22:20] <redrebel> anyone here using oo3?
[22:20] <pyrak> physically, the drive is installed
[22:20] <Bsims> pyrak: ever use parted?
[22:20] <rafting> so if i change to no authentification I could perhas log on from ubuntu?
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: there is nothing to hold your hand with
[22:20] <Slart> redrebel: there's probably a ton of posts about it in the forum
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: just plug the disk in, and put a file system on it
[22:20] <aLeSD> Halitech thanks
[22:20] <ikonia> Bsims: he's on a non-gui machine
[22:20] <pyrak> Bsims, gparted, yes, normal parted, no
[22:20] <Halitech> aLeSD, no problem
[22:20] <Slart> rafting: sounds reasonable
[22:20] <Bsims> ikonia: parted is the non gui portion
[22:20] <Bsims> pyrak: man parted
[22:20] <ikonia> Bsims: apologies thought you said gparted
[22:20] <pyrak> well first i need to figure out which /dev/hda# it is
[22:20] <Halitech> pyrak, do you mean physically installing or adding to fstab?
[22:20] <Ketzusaka> I have two ubuntus. My local one and one on a server. I added the passenger suorce a while back on this one through synaptic, and I see libapache2-mod-passenger just fine. But on the server, after adding it in /etc/apt/sources.list and running apt-get update it's not found anywhere =[
[22:20] <ikonia> pyrak: how many disks do you have
[22:20] <nate> that fixed it. thank you Halitech, I didn't realize 7.04 was EOL already.
[22:21] <Bsims> pyrak: is it the second drive?
[22:21] <agustin> hell any can help my with 5.1 audigy congif for ubuntu?
[22:21] <n2diy> My DSL access has been down for hours, how is it I can chat here?
[22:21] <Halitech> nate, yeah, back in october
[22:21] <pyrak> i have one usb disk, one ide, and one sata2
[22:21] <rafting> Slart: but what should I then set it to? because now i have wpa-personal and I give the correct key and cant log on.
[22:21] <pyrak> the ide is master, and the OS is running off of it
[22:21] <Bsims> pyrak: the primary drive will be /dev/sda, the second will be /dev/sdb
[22:21] <ikonia> pyrak: your new one would be /dev/sd*
[22:21] <Halitech> pyrak, sudo fdisk -l
[22:21] <pyrak> the usb disk is unmounted, so i guess i'll just unplug it now to simplify things
[22:21] <ikonia> pyrak: probably sdb, but your ide one will change potentially
[22:21] <mphill> pyrak: you can type dmesg | grep -i sd or you can run bklid
[22:21] <Lasivian> ok, I screwed up a device and it's not being detected anymore, can someone point me towards how to fix this without reinstalling? :/
[22:21] <agustin> hell any can help my with 5.1 audigy congif for ubuntu????
[22:22] <exodus_ms> !sound > agustin
[22:22] <Bsims> pyrak: Yeah what Halitech said... sudo fdisk -l to list known drives
[22:22] <Slart> rafting: I'm horrible with wireless and all it's encryptions.. you'll be better off asking the channel for wireless advice
[22:22] <scottpledger> so nobody knows about flash?
[22:22] <ikonia> scottpledger: what's up
[22:22] <mphill> pyrak: blkid will get you the UUID which is the prefered method of mounting these days.
[22:22] <scottpledger> flash is extremely choppy when firefox has the focus
[22:22] <Halitech> scottpledger, the flash? I know he's a hero in the comic book world :D
[22:22] <scottpledger> but its just fine when any other window has focus
[22:23] <Bsims> pyrak: is the new drive much larger than the others?
[22:23] <ikonia> scottpledger: its a closed source product, it reacts different on different machines, websites, etc
[22:23] <pyrak> Bsims, yes
[22:23] <exodus_ms> agustin, also look here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[22:23] <scottpledger> its incredibly annoying
[22:23] <kbrosnan> scottpledger: do you use any extensions, e.g. adblock or firebug?
[22:23]  * Lasivian guesses not
[22:23] <AlexOnRuby> where i can find the last.fm player for ubuntu ?
[22:23] <Bsims> pyrak: try running di and see if its already mounted
[22:23] <scottpledger> not that i know of, but i can check real quick
[22:24] <h00k> AlexOnRuby, the last.fm has the .deb on their site
[22:24] <marceldv> AlexOnRuby; banshee has last.fm plugin build in.
[22:24] <Aquina> I followed there instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-631711.html unfortunately they don't work. Can someone help me please?
[22:24] <mphill> AlexOnRuby: there is a pluging for rhythmbox
[22:24] <scottpledger> nope
[22:24] <scottpledger> i'm not
[22:24] <kbrosnan> scottpledger: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Safe+Mode can disable all your extensions to check if that is the problem
[22:24] <Aquina> You can pm me whenever you want to!
[22:24] <schnauzer> How does one enable boot logging in Intrepid
[22:24] <n2diy> My DSL access has been down for hours, how is it I can chat here?
[22:24] <lucax> how do i repair broken packages?
[22:25] <marceldv> scottpledger: Are you runnen ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[22:25] <Aquina> schnauzer, try the bootlog package
[22:25] <ikonia> n2diy: it's not down
[22:25] <Halitech> n2diy, are you sure its down?
[22:25] <gnutron> agustin: read this whole page, looks promising: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[22:25] <Lasivian> n2diy, try going to 209.85.171.100 in a browser
[22:25] <scottpledger> still does it in safe mode.
[22:26] <marceldv> scottpledger: Are you runnen ubuntu 32 or 64 bit?
[22:26] <Halitech> n2diy, how do you know you are really here, maybe you are imaging things ;)
[22:26] <schnauzer> Aquina: Couldn't find any package matching "bootlog".  However, the following
[22:26] <schnauzer> packages contain "bootlog" in their description: gfxboot"
[22:26] <scottpledger> 32
[22:26] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:26] <n2diy> Ikonia, Halitech , yes, I'm waiting for tech. support to call me back with the fix! I'm getting authentifcation errors logging in.
[22:26] <schnauzer> I'll install that one, then
[22:26] <pyrak> so i have my fdisk output
[22:26] <ikonia> n2diy: its working
[22:26] <pyrak> anyone wanna take it via pm?
[22:26] <Aquina> wait a minute, schnauter...
[22:26] <ikonia> pyrak: use the pastebin
[22:26] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:26] <scottpledger> it does it on 64 too, but i figured that that was just because adobe doesn't release 64 bit flash binaries.
[22:26] <pyrak> ikonia, k
[22:26] <Slart> !ccsm | gam3r111
[22:26] <h00k> !pastebin | pyrak
[22:26] <schnauzer> Aquina: ok..
[22:27] <n2diy> iBrick, any idea why Firefox wouldn't be authenticating correctly?
[22:27] <Halitech> n2diy, well if you are in here then you are online so whatever 'fix' the tech is calling you with is well, whatever
[22:27] <pyrak> http://pastebin.com/m34773000
[22:27] <marceldv> scottpledger: Adobe has an alpha for flash 64bit .. Works great
[22:27] <gam3r111> slart i accidentally deleted everything in the ani,ations
[22:27] <gam3r111> **animations
[22:27] <scottpledger> ok, i'll download that on my desktop, but at the moment i'm on my laptop (32 bit)
[22:27] <gam3r111> can someone help me setup animations for compiz?
[22:27] <Lasivian> is there a command to force a package to reinstall itself and all deps?
[22:27] <Aquina> Well it was bootchart, schnauzer. ;-)
[22:28] <ikonia> Lasivian: synaptic has a re-install option
[22:28] <gnutron> Lasivian: synaptic will do that.
[22:28] <Lasivian> ikonia, I know, but it does not reinstall deps
[22:28] <exodus_ms> !repeat | gam3r111
[22:28] <scottpledger> maybe i'll try the latest alpha for flash 32 bit.
[22:28] <marceldv> scottpledger: You can find it on labs.adobe.com ..
[22:28] <ExElNeT> how do i enable compiz for kde4.1?
[22:28] <Paw> Oh so here is where everyone is :-p
[22:28] <Halitech> Lasivian, sudo apt-get remove packagename && sudo apt-get install packagename
[22:28] <Slart> gam3r111: hmm.. not sure how to get the defaults back.. sorry.. perhaps ask in #compiz-fusion
[22:28] <lucax> ExElNeT, compiz --replace
[22:28] <agustin> im using pulse for 5.1 is that right?
[22:28] <ikonia> Lasivian: why do you want to re-install everything + deps
[22:28] <Lasivian> halitech: that does not forcibly reinstall dependencies tho, just that package
[22:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: it won't re-install deps as other things may depend on those dependencies
[22:29] <Lasivian> ikonia: because I have something very broken and i'm trying to fix it the only way I can think of
[22:29] <Halitech> Lasivian, try with the -f option
[22:29] <Paw> I know this is a stupid question, but can someone help me install ubuntu, tried and am having some troubles :/
[22:29] <gnutron> agustin: leave pulse alone, concentrate on alsa
[22:29] <ikonia> Lasivian: re-installing with no reason it not a good way to resolve something
[22:29] <Halitech> Lasivian, no, thats for fixing, I think its --force
[22:29] <h00k> !ask | paw
[22:29] <Lasivian> ikonia: well, it's that or reinstall at this point
[22:29] <shovi> SAVAGE 2??
[22:30] <ikonia> Lasivian: I'd advise against re-installing things blindly - but thats your call
[22:30] <Halitech> Lasivian, what are you having trouble with?
[22:30] <exodus_ms> Paw, what is the problem?
[22:30] <mphill> Lasivian: check out apt-rdepends
[22:30] <schnauzer> Aquina: I've already tried that package; what I want is to see an error message I get when usplash quits. It scrolls up before I can read it.
[22:30] <marceldv> scottpledger: You already upgraded to intrepid?
[22:30] <agustin> ohh and how i configurate alsa for my audigy???
[22:30] <Paw> Can someone help me install ubuntu, I have having ab uffer I/O error, and i chcked all the forums with no help :/.
[22:30] <agustin> where i select
[22:30] <Lasivian> ikonia: trying to get my webcam working has broken my video, and I can;t figure out how to re-detect/install that device
[22:30] <schnauzer> Seems Aquina left; Anyone else know?
[22:30] <ExElNeT> lucax: hmm this didnt work out? do you have a hint? http://nopaste.info/1146e22486.html
[22:30] <Halitech> Lasivian, what type of webcam?
[22:30] <mphill> Lasivian: what kernel module are you using?
[22:30] <gnutron> agustin: did you catch this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317
[22:31] <ikonia> Lasivian: why do you need to re-detect it ? has the device file gone ?
[22:31] <agustin> audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: No se pudo abrir el dispositivo de audio para reproducción
[22:31] <Roasted> Anybody have any experience with CloneZilla Live? I'm having a problem trying to make an image of a hard drive. I'm sure it's something simple I am overlooking but I can't get it to work and I'm on a strict time table with getting this to work for my job... Can anybody help?
[22:31] <agustin> that i get when i slect alsa
[22:31] <Lasivian> halitech: Acer Crystal Eye
[22:31] <marceldv> scottpledger: You already upgraded to intrepid?
[22:31] <Lasivian> mphill: no idea
[22:31] <pyrak> Halitech, ran fdisk, here's my output: http://pastebin.com/m34773000
[22:31] <gnutron> agustin: no idea who you're talking to.
[22:31] <lucax> ExElNeT, try searching in synaptic for some package called compizconfig-kde something like that...
[22:31] <Lasivian> ikonia: I don;t know, it's not displaying correctly anymore and I can;t change the resolution
[22:31] <nbeebo> anyone know a good site for guides on how to start a forum?
[22:31] <mphill> Lasivian: do 'lsusb' and paste it in a query
[22:31] <Paw> Having install issues with ubuntu, "Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block" Can anyone resolve?
[22:31] <ikonia> pyrak: your new disk is /dev/sda
[22:32] <Halitech> Lasivian, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928467&highlight=Acer+Crystal+Eye
[22:32] <agustin> to you
[22:32] <pyrak> ikonia, so it looks like i only have one unmounted hard disk
[22:32] <h00k> Paw, is that booting from the CD?
[22:32] <ikonia> pyrak: errrrr no
[22:32] <pyrak> oh, which makes sense, because i forgot to plug the usb disk back in
[22:32] <Paw> h00k: yes
[22:32] <ikonia> pyrak: you have one disk that doens't have a partition table, the disk is 500gb in size, is that your new disk
[22:32] <h00k> Paw, check your CD, it might be defective
[22:32] <Lasivian> mphill: Suyin corp (it's on my other computer)
[22:32] <exodus_ms> agustin, type the persons nick and hit tab,
[22:33] <pyrak> ikonia, yes, that all sounds right
[22:33] <Paw> h00k: okay let me check, any ways to find out..
[22:33] <HideousNashimoto> hello
[22:33] <pyrak> next step: parted?
[22:33] <ikonia> pyrak: use a partition tool you chose to put a partition on it
[22:33] <h00k> Paw, yes, when you boot from it, there is an option after you select your language
[22:33] <mphill> Lasivian: type sudo modprobe -r gspca; sudo modprobe gspca
[22:33] <h00k> Paw, something like "Check this CD for defects"
[22:33] <HideousNashimoto> I have a folder with couple of other folders and files in it, I want to know how to change permissions so that I have all access to them, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:33] <Paw> h00k, i tried that, and i get the same error.
[22:33] <exodus_ms> agustin, is your ubuntu install in English?
[22:33] <pyrak> ikonia, what tool do you recommend?
[22:33] <agustin> gnutron, i get this when i put alsa in my sound driver audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: No se pudo abrir el dispositivo de audio para reproducción
[22:33] <ikonia> pyrak: I use fdisk
[22:33] <Roasted> CloneZilla? Anybody?
[22:34] <agustin> exodus_ms, nop spanish
[22:34] <Paw> h00k: it starts to say the error again while checking for defects
[22:34] <Lasivian> halitech: yes, I saw that, but the solution just records to a file
[22:34] <Paw> Let me try again.
[22:34] <h00k> Paw, okay, it does sound like you need to either re-download the file, or re-burn the CD
[22:34] <ExElNeT> lucax: i installed the compiz-kde package
[22:34] <Lasivian> mphill: gspca not found
[22:34] <HideousNashimoto> I have a folder with couple of other folders and files in it, I want to know how to change permissions so that I have all access to them, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:34] <Paw> h00k: I shall try both, and see what happens..
[22:34] <scottpledger> ok, i feel dumb -- the fix is to set the local storage to unlimited.
[22:34] <h00k> Paw, you can check the MD5 Hash against the original to verify your CD image is correct
[22:35] <exodus_ms> agustin, Are you comfortable with support in English or would you like a channel for Spanish?
[22:35] <ikonia> HideousNashimoto use the chmod command or launch nautlius with gksudo to use it as root
[22:35] <Halitech> Lasivian, whats the output of lsusb?
[22:35] <gnutron> agustin: no se habla espanol dude, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261317 work with alsa.
[22:35] <Paw> h00k: md5?
[22:35] <marceldv> scottpledger: Weird .. :)
[22:35] <h00k> !md5 | Paw
[22:35] <agustin> no problem dude with english support
[22:35] <Roasted> CLONEZILLA? ANYBODY?
[22:35] <pyrak> so, ikonia do i need to so anything fancy with DOS partition tables or anything like that?  or just add a partition and then format it?
[22:36] <exodus_ms> agustin, check that link gnutron posted
[22:36] <lucax> ExElNeT, that should do it
[22:36] <CarlFK> I have i386 ver loaded on a x64 box.  is there a way to upgrade to x64?
[22:36] <marceldv> Roasted:  Probably not. What's the problem?
[22:36] <Halitech> CarlFK, reinstall with 64 bit
[22:36] <Lasivian> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83737/
[22:37] <Izinucs> CarlFK: why bother with most programs running in a 32bit environ. unless you really want to compile most everything
[22:37] <ExElNeT> lucax: same error ;/
[22:37] <Halitech> Lasivian, was the webcam plugged in?
[22:37] <gnutron> agustin: have you installed alsamixer
[22:37] <marceldv> Roasted:  Probably not. What's the problem?
[22:37] <Lasivian> it's built into the notebook
[22:37] <Lasivian> Halitech, it's an Aspire One, built in
[22:38] <Halitech> Lasivian, doesnt look like its being seen, have you tried a reboot?
[22:38] <CarlFK> Izinucs: cuz I am running out of cpu doing live video encoding: check out my 5fps fish: http://giss.tv:8000/fsfs.ogg
[22:38] <Halitech> Lasivian, do you have Ubuntu on it or still running lipus?
[22:38] <lucax> ExElNeT, try logion out and backin kde some times does that... but u should check if u have all compiz kde packages installed
[22:38] <Lasivian> halitech: hang on, I wasen't ssh'd over there
[22:38] <f00fyf00f3rz> I don't knoew how dinosaurs roam
[22:39] <agustin> im using hardy and it detect my sound card like audigy ...(alsa mixer)
[22:39] <Slade605> Hey all, where is the password file kept?
[22:39] <Roasted> marceldv - I have a test computer here with a fresh installation of Windwos XP on it. The copy of XP is a work issued one. I'm trying to create an image of it for the 500 computers we're getting in next month. But when I try to creat an image, it says the drive needs to be unmounted... yet I'm following the directions picture by picture step by step on this ugide I found. I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[22:39] <agustin> thats all i know
[22:39] <agustin> in newbie with ubuntu
[22:39] <Lasivian> Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83739/
[22:39] <Izinucs> CarlFK: link doesn't work.. but anyway.. not sure if it will help on 32bit in your situation but take a look at your swap space. You might need to increase it.
[22:39] <gnutron> agustin: whip open a terminal and type alsamixer
[22:39] <zwerver> someone knows what's happend here: i can't open files via firefox anymore, i have to download them. I think it's my /tmp, that has only 952KB free (but only 1.8 in use, although it says 'some contents unreadable'). any solutions?
[22:40] <agustin> yes i put that but it shows the sound driver of my ati 3850hd
[22:40] <Halitech> Lasivian, okay, it is being seen
[22:40] <marceldv> Roasted: You probably need to download the live cd from clonezilla. When the disks are mounted you can't make an image.
[22:41] <Lasivian> Halitech: Ekiga was working, Cheese displayed nothing, then Cheese showed a multi-color "tv" screen and no resolution, then my video flaked out
[22:41] <Roasted> marceldv - I did. I'm booted to the LiveCD right now on the test computer behind me. I get the same error each time.
[22:41] <Halitech> Lasivian, if you run cheese does it work or give you an error
[22:41] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok, not sure then
[22:41] <agustin> how did i change the alsamixer soundcard?
[22:41] <marceldv> Roasted: You're trying to make an image of the XP box right?
[22:41] <Lasivian> I think it was because Cheese needed to be version 2.25, but I couldn;t figure out how to install that from source
[22:41] <Roasted> Yes. I am, marceldv.
[22:41] <gnutron> agustin: type lspci  does it show your audigy card, we were talking audigy werent we?
[22:42] <agustin> gnutron,  yeap
[22:42] <marceldv> Roasted: And you're sure none of the disks is mounted?
[22:42] <gnutron> agustin: type lspci, yes it lists it?
[22:42] <Halitech> Lasivian, usually its download, extract, then ./configure,  make,  make install, might need to do them as sudo
[22:43] <Izinucs> Roasted: if clonezilla doesn't work for you .. take a look at partimage from the "rescue live cd"
[22:43] <Roasted> marceldv -I went to the command line and saw the disk was mounted. I used umount to unmount it, then I used a command to get back into the GUI. Then again it still didn't work.
[22:43] <Lasivian> Halitech, aye, but on this thre was no makefile
[22:43]  * Lasivian shrugs
[22:43] <Halitech> Lasivian, any readme file?
[22:43] <Lasivian> so I pretty much gave up and now I just want to get back to where I was before
[22:43] <Roasted> izinucs - I pretty much need to use clonezilla, though. It sems to have cloning speeds that are absolutely unreal, and I have 500 computers to deploy on my own. Speed will help me out so much.
[22:43] <gnutron> agustin: right click on your volume control, choose preferences, use the dropdown box and select the soundcard
[22:43] <f00fyf00f3rz> Where are owls indigenouss
[22:44] <Izinucs> Roasted: wow.. I've never compared the two for speed.. but if you've already looked so be it.. that's a lot of machines.
[22:44] <Roasted> besides, cl onezilla is based on partimage from what I've read...
[22:45] <agustin> gnutron,  Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[22:45] <marceldv> Roasted: Hang on.
[22:45] <Halitech> Roasted, any chance of doing a PXE boot and install?
[22:45] <f00fyf00f3rz> If my computer bloed up what are the chabces ill fly away
[22:45] <agustin> gnutron, Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3870 Audio device -- how i changed this
[22:45] <Lasivian> Halitech: yes, but not at any level I understadd
[22:45] <agustin> couse i cant select audigy here
[22:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > f00fyf00f3rz
[22:45] <gnutron> agustin: cool, choose the SB then, again right click on volume, choose open volume controls
[22:45] <Roasted> halitech - oh yeah, I have a 10/100 netgear switch here with me. I just don't understand how I am getting the image in the first place. I just assumed I should boot to the liveCD on the main computer, grab the image, then go to the DRBL Server (CloneZilla Server) and deploy it across the network then.
[22:46] <gnutron> agustin: i didnt know ATI did audio, choose creative labs
[22:46] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok, not sure what else to tell you
[22:46] <Roasted> Out of all of the guides I've read with how to configure your CloneZilla SErver, I have yet to find one that tells me how I get the darn image in the first place. And on top of that, how to wire the thing up. Do the client computers and the server just go to the LAN ports? Does oneget plugged into the uplink? I just don't know and can't find any information on it.
[22:46] <agustin> my ati 3850hd have hdmi audio
[22:46] <cockn1gger>  my ati 3850hd have hdmi audio
[22:46] <Lasivian> halitech: so i'm guessing if the video doesn't redetect on reboot i'm screwed?
[22:46] <cockn1gger>  halitech: so i'm guessing if the video doesn't redetect on reboot i'm screwed?
[22:46] <Halitech> Roasted, not totaly sure but I think you just use an install cd
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  Roasted, not totaly sure but I think you just use an install cd
[22:47] <agustin> i choose audigy but when i put alsamixer in the terminal it shows ati
[22:47] <cockn1gger> sup guyz
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  i choose audigy but when i put alsamixer in the terminal it shows ati
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I suggest you guys stop that
[22:47] <cockn1gger>  I suggest you guys stop that
[22:47] <gnutron> agustin: can you change it to creative labs audigy?
[22:47] <f00fyf00f3rz> Kick that guy out his tag is so offensive
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> done
[22:47] <gnutron> thx jack
[22:48] <f00fyf00f3rz> Thank you
[22:48] <Halitech> Lasivian, I would hazard a guess you are right
[22:48] <ruto> ciao a tutti
[22:48] <agustin> gnutron,  i dont know how
[22:48] <Halitech> Jack_Sparrow, thank you
[22:48] <Roasted> Halitech - Meaning what? What install CD? The Windows install CD? Where am I using it? You know what I mean, there's just so many places that aren't covered in these guides I read.
[22:48] <gnutron> agustin: just click the dropdown box and make the creative entry stick instead of ATI
[22:49] <Halitech> Roasted, from what I can remember of what I've read, when you are setting up your PXE server, you can specify where the image (or cd) is
[22:49] <marceldv> Roasted: Could you repeat the error message you're getting?
[22:49] <Lasivian> Halitech, thanks
[22:49] <albertico> hi guys... my numeric pad suddenly stopped working
[22:49] <albertico> seems like I pressed something wrong... any ideas?
[22:49] <Roasted> Marceldv - standby... I'll go through the process on my test PC behind me and type back to you in a minute when I get the message.
[22:49] <agustin> ─[AlsaMixer v1.0.16 (Press Escape to quit)]──────────────────┐
[22:49] <agustin> │ Card: HDA ATI HDMI                                                           │
[22:49] <agustin> │ Chip: Generic 1002 ATI R6xx HDMI                                             │
[22:49] <agustin> │ View: [Playback] Capture  All                                                │
[22:49] <agustin> │ Item: IEC958
[22:49] <FloodBot1> agustin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <marceldv> Roasted: K
[22:50] <marceldv> albertico: Try numlock
[22:50] <Roasted> marceldv - Error! No unmounted disks are found! To use Clonezilla to save or clone a disk, the source disk must be unmounted! Press enter to exit...
[22:50] <Jon5000> Let me try another question:  I have a dual boot setup with Vista, which is running out of space.  Ubuntu has a 16gb partition but is only using about 2gb now.  can someone advise me on a simple way to reduce ubuntu's partition by about 5gb and give it to windows?
[22:50] <gnutron> agustin: try this sudo apt-get install asoundconf-gtk
[22:50] <Roasted> Let's put it this way. HOW do I get an image "created" for an image server (clonezilla server)
[22:51] <Halitech> Roasted, what is the output of sudo mount?
[22:51] <albertico> marceldv, it doesn't have to do with the numlock
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Jon5000 use gparted, but I suggest you have a backup whenever you are working at the partition level
[22:51] <Roasted> Halitech - well, I have to log out of the gui and into terminal to type any commands...
[22:51] <Vhghost> Xchat-gnome not recieving dcc transferes / shows up in transferes window but does not start .. any ideas ?
[22:51] <Halitech> Roasted, why? just open a terminal
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Vhghost I dont think you are allowed to dcc in here
[22:51] <albertico> marceldv, I keep pressing it and typing but doesn't work
[22:51] <Roasted> Halitech - I'm booted to the LiveCD of CloneZilla. I'm not in Ubuntu.
[22:51] <gnutron> agustin: tell me if that worked, if so, try clicking system/preferences/default sound card in your menu.
[22:51] <Vhghost> not here but other chans
[22:52] <marceldv> Roasted: Try ctrl+alt+f1
[22:52] <Halitech> Roasted, no terminal option in the menu?
[22:52] <Roasted> marceldv - no go.
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Vhghost try #xchat or whatever client you are suing
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> using
[22:52] <Ketzu> Is there a way to see what packages are available on a repository?
[22:52] <Roasted> Halitech - No. Keep in mind, I'm working on two computers here. The one behind me is on the LiveCD for CloneZilla.
[22:52] <agustin> gnutron, ok wait a sec
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Ketzu synaptic
[22:52] <Halitech> Roasted, I know, pretty much ignoring the system you are on ;)
[22:52] <Roasted> Halitech - this is the KIND of screen I'm looking at. http://drbl.sourceforge.net/screenshot/?op=show&filepath=album//01_Clonezilla/09_ocs-sr-x.png
[22:53] <Ketzu> jack_sparrow: Without a gui
[22:53] <marceldv> Roasted: ctrl+alt+f2 neither?
[22:53] <Halitech> Roasted, ahhh, got ya now
[22:53] <Halitech> marceldv, think old school DOS installer window
[22:53] <Jon5000> jack_sparrow: thank you.  my main concern is that i will mess up the windows partition and make it unbootable.  key files are all saved elsewhere so i am ok there.  its just the OS i am afraid of losing
[22:54] <Halitech> Jon5000, it's only windows ;)
[22:54] <Roasted> ctrl alt F2 worked...
[22:54] <marceldv> Halitech: It's linux live cd.
[22:54] <Ketzu> Jack_Sparrow: That doesn't tell me how anyways...
[22:54] <gnutron> Ketzu: type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' in a terminal, goto the http addresses and browse them.
[22:54] <Roasted> but the thing is, I dont know how to get the GUI back after I get to terminal besides restarting. I used to have the command for it but I dont know where I got it.
[22:54] <Halitech> marceldv, I know but it looks the same so wasn't sure if it would have multiple tty's
[22:54] <Ketzu> gnutron; That doesn't help either. I've done that. Packages are there. They aren't locally tough.
[22:54] <marceldv> Roasted: alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[22:55] <eseven73> if i install virtualbox-ose and since it has no usb support, will that mean my usb keyboard/mouse wont work ?
[22:55] <Jon5000> Halitech: easy for you to say you are not a newbie like me (probably), and you (probably ) have not completely failed at being able to share USB drives using samba with other windows computers...  Cant cut the windows chord just yet.
[22:55] <Roasted> marceldv - CTRL ALT F2 worked for terminal.
[22:55] <Ketzu> I'm trying to find out why =\
[22:55] <gnutron> Ketzu: try in a terminal, apt-cache search some-search-term
[22:55] <marceldv> Roasted: F1 should bring you back to the blue stuff
[22:55] <albertico> marceldv, I just fixed it... seems like some settings got changed on the System->Preference->Keyboard dialog
[22:56] <marceldv> albertico: Cool
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: No results. What's really bothering me is it's working on one system but not another..
[22:56] <ruto> ciao
[22:56] <Halitech> Jon5000, I consider myself a newbie in a lot of things even though I've been using Linux for 3 years ... have you checked out the howto on samba?
[22:56] <gnutron> Ketzu: are your repositories enabled?
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: Not sure =|
[22:56] <Roasted> Marceldv - I used the GUI to the very last step of CloneZilla, where I name the image I'm about to make. I went to terminal, unmounted, back to GUI, hit enter... same error.
[22:56] <Ketzu> gnutron: How would I do that without a gui?
[22:56] <ruto> hello
[22:57] <lastnode> hi i anna install ubuntu to a usb stickbut i dont think my bios can boot it atm. will something like openbios help me?
[22:57] <ruto> ma ci sn sl inglesi o anche italiani?
[22:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[22:57] <gnutron> Ketzu: whip open synaptic, its in the menu options somewhere, quite easy, check it out.
[22:57] <Jon5000> Halitech: yes.  in fact I have been able to share folders fine with samba.  I understand the samba.conf file now better than i ever expected i could.  its just the darn usb drive (which is fat32) that i cant seem to share.  I have asked about it here but no relief.
[22:58] <psudo> Hello i just installed ubunutu server on my server how ever i do not have gnome installed i got took to the command line i was wondering if some one could help me install the desktop
[22:58] <Ketzu> gnutron; I don't have synaptic.
[22:58] <j0hnnyX> Can someone direct me to a wiki that will tell me how to get Iced Tea working so that it won't display improperly
[22:58] <gnutron> Ketzu: oh, ok, insure no '#' pound signs precede the repo's you desire in sources.list
[22:58] <marceldv> Roasted: Where is the image written to?
[22:58] <eseven73> if i install virtualbox-ose and since it has no usb support, will that mean my usb keyboard/mouse wont work ?
[22:58] <Ketzu> gnutron: Doesn't
[22:58] <Roasted> marveldv - I have no idea, to be honest. I'm just following the tutorial I found. I was hoping to search the hard drive after I make the image so I can pull it off of the computer and save it.
[22:58] <Halitech> Jon5000, are you sharing a folder on the drive? might not work if you are trying to share the root of the drive
[22:59] <marceldv> eseven73: Will work
[22:59] <mikhailt> is ubuntu using /etc/network/interfaces as the conf for the interfaces? I can't seem to get it to be enabled even tho the network manager works fine after changing stuff, but modifying the interfaces file doesn't seem to change anything
[22:59] <gnutron> Ketzu: does apt-get update work?
[22:59] <marceldv> Roasted: Where the tutorial?
[22:59] <Roasted> http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/
[23:00] <ExElNeT> lucax: compiz still seg faults... /
[23:00] <Halitech> psudo, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> This is the problem I'm getting
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=javahd9.png
[23:00] <Jon5000> Halitech: I have tried to do both.  I am able to see the drive from the windows pc, but unable to access it (you do not have permission, or some such.)  I have messed around wih permissions and ownership, but the drive is fat32 so none of that has worked.
[23:00] <j0hnnyX> See how its not lined up
[23:00] <ExElNeT> brb
[23:01] <j0hnnyX> Does that with every java app
[23:01] <psudo> Halitech,  yes i found that on the fourm but do i also need to get x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment
[23:01] <Halitech> Jon5000, chmod and chown to the user listed in samba doesn't work?
[23:01] <Ketzu> gnutron: Yes. Results: http://pastebin.ca/1282073
[23:01] <Ketzu> gnutron: It might be because I'm on a lts version
[23:01] <ExElNeT> re
[23:01] <Halitech> psudo ubuntu-desktop should pull everything
[23:01] <sdf> anybody can help me with a 64 bit MUL with x86 architect?
[23:01] <emo> can i set a different wallpaper for each desktop side? *i have 4 desktop spaces, and i want a different wallpaper for each*
[23:01] <psudo> Halitech,  okay that is installing now any configuring i gotta do or dose it do that for me
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: that looks ok, what do you want to do again?
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: browse stuff?
[23:02] <Ketzu> gnutron: I'm trying to install passenger. rubygems are being a pain so I'm trying to install it through the aptitude
[23:02] <marceldv> Roasted: When you choose local_dev on the first page. Does it ask which partition to load?
[23:02] <Halitech> psudo, shouldnt have to , either reboot when its done in stalling or run gdm and it should take you to the desktop
[23:02] <gnutron> Ketzu: aptitude should work, use sudo of course
[23:03] <Ketzu> The package I'm trying to install is libapache2-mod-passenger; I downlaoded the deb after running into the sources problem, and installed it, but then the .so file isn't being placed properly
[23:03] <Roasted> marceldv - It brings up SDA1 80.0GB NTFS... so I hit enter.
[23:03] <Ketzu> gnutron: I'm in a root environment
[23:03] <eseven73> whats the command to check kernel version?
[23:04] <scientes> /etc/localtime cannot be overwritten: Failed to create file '/etc/localtime.0B04LU': Read-only file system
[23:04] <marceldv> Roasted: There is your problem. You are trying to get the image of sda1 and writing it to sda1 .. Which can't be done. (I'm just guessing)
[23:04] <scientes> i cant change the timezone
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Anyways Java seems to work though but could that just be a bug in iced tea?
[23:04] <mikhailt> eseven73: try uname -r
[23:04] <Sylphid|work> im having some issues with a directory in my home folder, .gvfs has permissions of d????????? and is taking up all of the space thats unused on my /home partition
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> There should be a way to center it no?
[23:04] <eseven73> mikhailt: thanks
[23:04] <psudo> Halitech,  Why dose server edition not come with a gui?
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Cause when I go to chat in Java applets the text all shows up half chopped off
[23:04] <j0hnnyX> Just like that image in that link I posted
[23:05] <Sylphid|work> and i cant seem to delete it ... although i havent tried in run level 1
[23:05] <mikhailt> psudo: server are usually headless, thus never need GUI for it
[23:05] <lubosz> hi
[23:05] <Roasted> marceldv - maybe if I plug in my external hard drive and select that to save the image to??
[23:05] <gnutron> Ketzu: you need the development repo enabled, or deb src entry to get source files if i recall correctly.
[23:05] <Jon5000> Halitech: correct, chmod and chown did not work
[23:05] <scientes> why would /etc be a read only firesystem its not
[23:05] <marceldv> Roasted: That should work..
[23:05] <scientes> and there is space
[23:05] <lubosz> my apache forbids symlinks to be followed owned by me and the group www-data
[23:05] <marceldv> Roasted: Post back any results :)
[23:05] <lubosz> symlinks pointed to stuff owned by root are followed
[23:05] <lubosz> wtf
[23:05] <psudo> mikearr,  It should still come with an option on install :D
[23:05] <lubosz> isn't apache in the group www-data?
[23:05] <scientes> help
[23:05] <Ketzu> gnutron: shouldn't. It's a third-party repo. one sec
[23:06] <mikhailt> apache is www-ata yep
[23:06] <scientes>       /etc read-only filesystem ????
[23:06] <mikhailt> www-data
[23:06] <sdf> anybody can help me with a 64 bit MUL with x86 architect?
[23:06] <lubosz> so, why it forbids me the symlinks
[23:06] <Ketzu> gnutron: Upgrading to intreped fixed it
[23:06] <R0b0t1> For some reason when trying to update a program from a .deb, it says "Older version in software channel" and proceeds with the download, but the installed package is not the newer version :|
[23:06] <gnutron> Ketzu: i noticed the third party repo, that could pose problems.
[23:06] <Ketzu> gnutron: Software isn't in the regular hehe
[23:06] <lubosz> user:www-data 775 -> user:www-data Forbidden
[23:06] <Roasted> marceldv - Will do. Booting up now. :)
[23:06] <Halitech> Jon5000, not sure unless its the way its being mounted
[23:07] <lubosz> user:www-data 775 -> root:root works
[23:07] <gusto5> R0b0t1, uninstall previous first and then install new?
[23:07] <Roasted> marceldv - it makes sense that it would work like that because I tested this on ANOTHER spare PC I have that dual boots... and it worked then but that's because I was saving the image to another partition.
[23:07] <Halitech> psudo, because servers do not use gui's
[23:07] <R0b0t1> gusto5: That did not work.
[23:07] <Jon5000> Halitech: how do you mean the way its mounted.  I have unmounted and remounted it btw
[23:07] <gnutron> Ketzu: i hope my upgrade to intrepid goes well, i havent found the nerve just yet.
[23:07] <R0b0t1> gusto5: When I did that, the "older" version was reinstalled.
[23:07] <marceldv> Roasted: So true =)
[23:07] <scientes> ahh /dev/sda1 read-only wtf
[23:08] <gusto5> R0b0t1, what's the package for?
[23:08] <Ketzu> gnutron: This is on a slicehost, basically just an image extract haha
[23:08] <mikhailt> psudo: well, if you wanted GUI, you shouldve started with the regular ubuntu, servers are intended for sysadmins who know they never want GUi and just intend to run it headless
[23:08] <Halitech> Jon5000, I'm wondering if you are mounting it as your user or as root, maybe that is having a weird side effect on it
[23:08] <R0b0t1> gusto5: Free Pascal. "fpc" for apt-get, etc.
[23:08] <ataufik> dear all... what is the program should I use to as vpn client / dialer in Intrepid? currently vpnc package is already installed. The modem I use is Merlin U630 which not been detected by NM and therefore I have to connet to internet using manual wvdial...
[23:09] <mikhailt> lubosz: did you check if the <Directory> in the VirtualHost allow symlinks?
[23:09] <systm> im having trouble watching a DVD on ubuntu 8.10, what do i need to be sure i can play it
[23:09] <exodus_ms> !codecs
[23:09] <Jon5000> Halitech: hmmm.  this is getting out of my league.  But I do think that i unmounted and remounted to specifically correct this.  Now i dont recall whether the remount as user didnt take and the drive reverted to root or not.  i seem to recall that happening but have had to reinstall since then and am not 100% sure.
[23:09] <gusto5> R0b0t1, if i may ask, whats the version on a search for fpc*
[23:10] <R0b0t1> gusto5: What do you mean?
[23:10] <psudo> mikhailt, Yes but i am installking it on a secer :P i am a good sysadmin im sure i could get by without a gui it just makes me feel better having 1
[23:10] <gusto5> R0b0t1, when you run an aptitude search for fpc*
[23:10] <lubosz> mikhailt: yes, it allows them, also symlinks which point to stuff owned by root, work
[23:10] <Halitech> Jon5000, do you have anything in fstab to mount it?
[23:10] <Guest76914> systm; i use the vlc program and it works great.
[23:11] <itsatrick> Hello.  Something's wrong with audio CD's in Intrepid Ibex (KDE 4, especially, but also Gnome).  When I put in an audio CD, I should expect that Linux automatically mount the disc.  However, nothing happens.  The disc turns, but I can't seem to mount it (even as root).  DVD's are just fine.  Anyone else have this problem?
[23:11] <mikhailt> systm: use VLC
[23:11] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:11] <exodus_ms> !codecs | systm
[23:11] <R0b0t1> gusto5: It says installed version is 2.2.2 (which is what I want, the older one is 2.2.0), although when typing "fpc" on the terminal brings up version 2.2.0
[23:11] <Halitech> psudo, then if you are a good sysadmin you shouldn't need a gui as the machine won't have a monitor attached to it
[23:11] <Jon5000> Halitech: thats one thing i didnt try (fstab) mainly because i havent gotten comfortable yet that i understand what i would be trying to do in there... what fstab does and why, eg
[23:11] <mikhailt> psudo
[23:11] <lubosz> k, got it, after 777 all stuff
[23:11] <lubosz> damn
[23:12] <systm> mikhailt: i will try but its not reading
[23:12] <Halitech> Jon5000, fstab is basically a list of drives you want the system to mount and what ID or location they are using
[23:12] <gusto5> R0b0t1, what version runs? 2.2.0?
[23:12] <psudo> :P
[23:12] <scientes> WTF UBUNTU REMOUNTED MY DRIVE RO AND WONT LET ME REMOVUUNT IT RW
[23:12] <R0b0t1> gusto5: Yes, like I said :)
[23:12] <kitche> !caps | scientes
[23:12] <mikhailt> psudo: so what, apt-get install kde/geome doesnt work for you?
[23:12] <tim167_> hi, i want to dd an image to a disk at /dev/sda but i get 'permission denied' even with sudo, how come ? thanks
[23:13] <gusto5> R0b0t1, sorry im a little confused. to conclude, it says 2.2.2 is installed, which is what you want, but 2.2.0 comes up on the apt search?
[23:13] <psudo> mikhailt,  i dont know im waiting for it to finish
[23:13] <gusto5> R0b0t1, and 2.2.2 is the one that runs?
[23:13] <marceldv> Roasted: Does it work?
[23:13] <Ma1> hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF
[23:13] <myk_robinson> How do I increase USB transfer speed in Intrepid? it creeps like the dead
[23:14] <R0b0t1> gusto5: No, no... In the synaptic window, it says the installed version is 2.2.2. But what actually runs is 2.2.0.
[23:14] <Jon5000> halitech: how is that different from umount and mount each time.  i mean, what little i understood was that fstab just made it so that you didnt have to do that each time... but even after i did that manually it didnt work.  what else does fstab do that would be different?
[23:14] <gnutron> tim167_: try a hdd partition e.g. /dev/sdaX where X is an arbitrary integer, fdisk -l to see partitions.
[23:14] <mikhailt> systm: what exactly are you reading
[23:14] <Roasted> marceldv - I messed it up. I accidentally tried imaging the external hard drive and saving the image to the 80gb SATA drive... so I'm rebooting now to set it up the proper way. :)
[23:15] <zedster> I messed up and deleted my dpkg var and usr files, now I can't upgrade or install anything
[23:15] <gusto5> gimme a sec R0b0t1 ill brb, if someone else can help you during, tahts be grat
[23:15] <Ma1> ﻿hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF
[23:15] <marceldv> Roasted: lol : )
[23:15] <cbarreda> I wanted to do a clean install of Ibex. I copied my home folder, did a clean ibex install, copied the evolution folder back. My e-mail are there but not my contacts. There are folders under .evolution/addressbook/local but evolution does not seem to be reading them. Any ideas?
[23:15] <Halitech> Jon5000, fstab will mount things in the same place everytime where mount/umount may put a thumbdrive at /dev/sdc1 on 1 mount, /dev/sdc3 the next time
[23:15] <tim167_> gnutron,  sda has no partitions, I want the partitions to be overwritten anyway, but I'll try to make a partition first and try your suggestion...
[23:15] <gnutron> tim167_: use extreme caution!
[23:16] <Guest47367> I'm an IRC noob. How do I "identify in time for the nickname <name>"?
[23:16] <Halitech> cbarreda, did you make sure they have proper permissions?
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest47367 Have you registered it?
[23:16] <qcjn> hi, i've unstalled a couple of things whit synaptic, apache,mysql,icecast2,..can i do something to like the ccleaner
[23:16] <Ma1> ﻿hi im having trouble with hardy heron 8.04 and intel-hda drivers for ALC260 realtek hd audio. i have no sound on speakers. only very faint sound when i plug headphones into SPDIF. what can i do!?
[23:16] <tim167_> gnutron, yes i will, I'm aware, thanks :)
[23:16] <Guest47367> No?
[23:16] <Guest47367> I'm using Xchat in Xubuntu at the moment.
[23:16] <exodus_ms> !repeat | Ma1
[23:17] <cbarreda> I only have my account. Copied the evolution folder to an NTFS partition prior to doing the ibex install & copied back after the ibex install.
[23:17] <cbarreda> Halitech I only have my account. Copied the evolution folder to an NTFS partition prior to doing the ibex install & copied back after the ibex install.
[23:17] <systm> mikhailt: Retail DVD
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[23:17] <jclbrt> ok i'd have to say that the new 8.10 has been the easiest one to use than any other prior version
[23:17] <roadrunner_> Question about bazaar here. Latest version of Gwibber gives me segmentation fault. Previous version ran fine. Had bright idea of using bzr to go get prior version of main branch. I can grab other branches of project, but I can't seem to find docs on how to pull down previous revision of main gwibber branch.
[23:17] <RobertGonzalez> Does anyone know of any drawbacks to installing 8.10 Server without a GUI?
[23:17] <exodus_ms> systm, what are you trying to do?
[23:17] <Roasted> marceldv - I got past the error. Currently it apperas to be cloning. But I'll have to wait till afterwards to push the image to my OTHER test computer to see how it works... gahh this is confusing!
[23:17] <jclbrt> every single thing worked right out of the box
[23:17] <RobertGonzalez> I heard it was a bad Idea.
[23:17] <Guest47367> ok. Thanks.
[23:17] <Jon5000> halitech: thats what i thought.  but even when i know where and how its monted, ie in situations where i just mounted it, i wasnt able to share it.  So i still am unclear why fstab will help me at this point in my problem. (i can see how it would be helpful if my problem were inconsistency in ability toi share, but i have never gotten the thing shred in the first place)
[23:17] <Halitech> cbarreda, probably doesn't have proper ownership to read it, find it with nautilus and right click and go to properties, then permissions
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest47367 If you are getting your nick removed.. it probably belongs to someone else
[23:18] <Sylphid|work> im having some issues with a directory in my home folder, .gvfs has permissions of d????????? and is taking up all of the space thats unused on my /home partition
[23:18] <jclbrt> except for the trackpad which just required a new .fdi policy file for HAL
[23:18] <gnutron> cbarreda: evolution will export all mail and setting to a gzipped tarball for you fyi. :)
[23:18] <Ma1> does "make install" command actually install drivers?
[23:18] <Halitech> Jon5000, I'm not sure it will, just giving options
[23:18] <tim167_> gnutron, still 'permission denied' with /dev/sda1 now...
[23:18] <jclbrt> even my Wireless broadband card works without a problem
[23:18] <jclbrt> YAY
[23:18] <marceldv> Roasted: The other test pc's disk has to be exactly the same size. Or it can't write the image. As far as I know.
[23:18] <qcjn> how can i be sure i made a clean uninstall..I did it via synaptic
[23:19] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: none that i am aware of and i use ubuntu all the time for servers, the only exception is when you want to do scripting but most of the time you do that on your machien and copying it to the machine
[23:19] <jclbrt> tho i wish that verizon had a version of the VZaccess software for linu
[23:19] <gnutron> tim167_: you'll need to mount it properly, filesystem type, and permissions.
[23:19] <Roasted> marceldv - I have two work issued computers at home with me... 80gb SATA, 1gb RAM, 3.0ghz P4... so I'm using one as my client, one as my server. :)
[23:19] <jclbrt> linux*
[23:19] <mikhailt> systm: you using the latest version of VLC?
[23:19] <gusto5> R0b0t1, i know this may sound straight foward, but have tried a complete removal from synaptic package manager?
[23:19] <R0b0t1> Yes.
[23:19] <tim167_> gnutron, can you help  me do that ? im not sure how...
[23:19] <gusto5> well ill be
[23:19] <marceldv> Roasted: ok, that should do :)
[23:20] <gusto5> R0b0t1, mind showing me where you acquired the 2.2.2 deb package?
[23:20] <cbarreda> Halitech folders, addressbook.db and addressbook.db.summary show I have read/write persmissions and shows me as the owner.
[23:20] <Roasted> marceldv - They're also connected to a netgear 5 port 10/100 switch with no uplink... so they're on their own little LAN with no outside connection. I'm trying to mimic how I want to set it up at work... casue at work I have a 48 port gigabit switch that I plan to use instead of the netgear 5 port that I'm using here for testing purposes.
[23:20] <Jon5000> Halitech: and i appreciate it!  hope is starting to fade... sharing this drive, and the fact that once in a while Vista would fail to mount it properly, was the main reason for my experiment with linux.  if i cant do it then its back to windows...  hence my original question -- i dont want to mess up my vista installation when i try to give it more room on the disk
[23:20] <gusto5> R0b0t1, actually im good, gimme a sec
[23:20] <R0b0t1> gusto5: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=2174&use_mirror=voxel&filename=fpc_2.2.2-0_all.deb&49860024
[23:20] <Ma1> does "make install" command actually install drivers? or does it create a deb file??
[23:20] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Thanks. We are in the process of moving away from Fedora/RHAS and our system admin has had all sorts of trouble sorting out RAID installations and what not.
[23:20] <Halitech> cbarreda, I wonder if something got fubarred where it was on an NTFS drive
[23:20] <myk_robinson> !slow usb transfer
[23:21] <myk_robinson> !slow usb
[23:21] <RobertGonzalez> His last issue was when he tried to install without the GUI and the installer told him that he shouldn't do that.
[23:21] <Halitech> Jon5000, vista failed to mount the drive from within windows?
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile > Ma1
[23:21] <georgy_28> !usb
[23:21] <marceldv> Roasted: You could setup a network using Virtualbox or Vmware. Just setup multiple machines and boot them all.
[23:21] <gnutron> tim167_: /dev/sda1 is a  block device pointing to a partition. use /etc/fstab to auto mount it. and you can use 'mount' with parameters on the cmd line
[23:21] <Ma1> thanks jack_sparrow
[23:21] <gnutron> !mount
[23:21] <systm> mikhailt: i believe so, i think is a mounting issue.. or disk decrypting one
[23:21] <hatter243> My totem player has stopped trying to authenticate when connecting to a .htaccess controlled stream. libsoup errors 401. Anyone know a way to get it to ask for the password as I remember it doing not too long ago?
[23:22] <mikhailt> systm: you  dont see it on the desktop, you try mounting it thur cli?
[23:22] <jclbrt> has anyone used Tmobiles wireless broadband
[23:22] <marceldv> Roasted: That should be enough for testing purposes :)
[23:22] <Roasted> marceldv - I'm not a network administrator, I'm a computer technician... so my intention here is to use spare computers + network accessories to my advantage without implementing things into the network I don't have control of.
[23:22] <gnutron> tim167_: man mount or check out the ubuntu site for mounting drives
[23:23] <zedster> how can you rebuild a dpkg system when you removed all the usr and var files on mistake?
[23:23] <Roasted> marceldv - so what I want to do is use this 80gb 1gb RAM P4 computer (one of them) to use as my official server, and put it in the tech office with the gigabit switch... then whenever I need to image a computer, I'll just bring it in the office, push the image on the local LAN, and be on my way.
[23:23] <zedster> it has no memory of what packages I've installed
[23:23] <cbarreda> Halitech do you know if evolution has files in folders other than the .evolution folder?
[23:23] <Jon5000> Halitech: sorry.  not failed to mount it.  i meant it fails to find it sometimes (infrequently) and other times assigns it the wrong letter (also infrequent) rendering it unshared and i have to reassign and re-share.  even tho infrequent i felt this was unacceptable, and thougt ubuntu would be a more powerful, study and better solution.  i am finding that not to be the case
[23:23] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: and you tink moving to ubuntu is going to help with RAID?
[23:23] <tim167_> gnutron, man mount is _very_ long , but thanks anyway...i'll do some reading
[23:23] <gloryman_> Hi all
[23:23] <Halitech> zedster, how do you 'mistakenly' remove those folders?
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> zedster Easiest is to restore from a backup.. if you nuked dpkg then you have a problem
[23:23] <Roasted> marceldv - also, if I get this working, I plan to utilize my laptop as a dual boot (Ubuntu/XP Pro) and use Ubuntu as a server for clonezilla... so when I go to the elementary schools (I work in a school district) I can use my laptop, which I have on me at all times, to push the image in a completely different building miles away from my office.
[23:23] <Halitech> cbarreda, not as far as personal files
[23:24] <zedster> Halitech: stupidity ?
[23:24] <gnutron> tim167_: look on the ubuntu site for mounting partitions, its easier than the man pages
[23:24] <hatter243> Roasted, is wiki.systemimager.org the kind of thing you're thinking of?
[23:24] <zedster> Jack_Sparrow: I restored the var/lib from backup
[23:24] <Halitech> Jon5000, have you considered that maybe there is a problem with the drive and thats why its not sharing properly?
[23:24] <tim167_> gnutron, ok thanks
[23:24] <zedster> but not the usr and such
[23:24] <zedster> it won't let me install files
[23:24] <cbarreda> Halitech thanks. Guess will try an old windows trick. Create new folders, copy the .db and hope it works
[23:24] <Halitech> zedster, guess that answer works as well as any :)
[23:24] <Paw> Hey guys I am installing ubuntu, I checked the disk and no errors on it, now I am at a cool back ground, and a grey box in the middle with a cursor, but it is not changing any ideas?
[23:24] <systm> mikhailt: its mounted on the desktop, but its like its blank
[23:25] <zedster> Halitech: honesty is a good policy right?
[23:25] <Roasted> hatter243 - Well, sort of... but I dont use Linux at work besides for my personal troubleshooting reasons. :(
[23:25] <malcom2073> Question: sound worked earlier today, I left my computer sit for about 10 hours and then I just tried to play audio and I've tried banshee and rythymbox, both players lock up when I try to play any audio. When I click "Test" in system -> preferences ->  sound settings, it says Failed to connect: connection refused.Any thoughts on what could cause this?
[23:25] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: No. But we are confident that making the move to Ubuntu was the right choice. Its just that the folks around here are heavy on the Unix experience, not so much on the Linux and what linux they do have is pretty much all RH. Installation in the past has been easy because it was known by experience. Ubuntu is apparently significantly more different than RH.
[23:25] <psudo> Halitech,  problem "User Switcher" has quit unexpectedly
[23:25] <gnutron> zedster: i think you're fubar'd man. i'd be looking for an install disk.
[23:25] <psudo> i keep hitting reload but nothing
[23:25] <hatter243> Roasted, suppose you could also try a kickstart network but so far for me that's bit a bit of a troublesome thing to get happy
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167_ sudo mkdir /media/blah then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah   substitute your drive for sda1
[23:25] <Halitech> cbarreda, I wonder if you copy the files to the desktop, make the owner root then change them back to you and move them back, wonder if that would do anything
[23:26] <Halitech> zedster, makes it easier to help if we can :)
[23:26] <marceldv> Roasted: If you setup multiple virtual machines with virtualbox or whatever virtualization software. You could create a virtual network to test out your setup. You don need multiple system. One system running virtualbox is enough. Though don't expect any superspeed though
[23:26] <Halitech> psudo, no idea, never used it
[23:26] <Jon5000> Halitech: i am open to this suggestion for sure.  but by wrong with the drive i am not sure what you mean.  can you explain a possibility>?again, now i think we are over my head.
[23:26] <psudo> kk
[23:26] <Pabremer> Hello people, may someone help me please?
[23:26] <yowshi> hmmm iu see the firefox memory issue is back
[23:26] <Halitech> Jon5000, thinking that maybe the drive is dying
[23:26] <mikhailt> systm: does it work anywhere else?
[23:26] <Roasted> Anybody who has used CloneZilla Live, how long did it take to make an image?? I'm making an image now and after 10 minutes its at 2%
[23:27] <badawi> !azureus
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Pabremer Just ask your question and wait
[23:27] <marceldv> Roasted: That should be enough for testing purposes :)
[23:27] <marceldv> Roasted: If you setup multiple virtual machines with virtualbox or whatever virtualization software. You could create a virtual network to test out your setup. You don need multiple system. One system running virtualbox is enough. Though don't expect any superspeed though
[23:27] <Pabremer> Ok...
[23:27] <J4k3-> xenxenxen
[23:27] <J4k3-> ;)
[23:27] <_cb> zedster couple of things that have worked for me. 1.- If booting from CD is not working try running Ubuntu from CD and installing from there.  If that does not work change mode to safe graphics (F4) on initial install
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> J4k3- Please dont
[23:28] <Jon5000> Halitech: dying?  that sounds technical.  FYI its a new drive, purchased 1 year ago, when it began its natural life.  Dying... not to get too existential, but what does that mean?
[23:28] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: i wouldn't say it would be that big of a different, just replacing some of the commands and it still is the same in most of the way, its the question of how fast they update their packages and core stuff
[23:28] <Roasted> marceldv - Yeah, like I said, my control over the network is limited... and I always have my laptop with me... so what I need to do will bes ufficient if I can get my laptop working. But I also plan to use the HP computer I'm using now for mass deployment hooked up to our 48 port gigabit switch for when the 500 pcs come.
[23:28] <Halitech> Jon5000, means that it is going to stop working....have you used it alot?
[23:28] <dalekleader> is it safe to delete files core and core.28687 from te home folder?  what are these files for?
[23:28] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: however RH is much slower than Ubuntu for sure on some area, mostly iSCSI
[23:29] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: i mean the other way, Ubuntu is slower than RH
[23:29] <J4k3-> Jack_Sparrow: don't what?
[23:29] <azimout> dalekleader: yes, you can delete them. some applications create them when they crash
[23:29] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Our biggest issue at the moment is that with each iteration of Fedora their support for the previous iteration all but stops. So in order to get the newest versions of software packages we need to install an entirely new OS or make all sorts of changes to the system to handle the newest versions of packages while maintaining dependencies.
[23:29] <marceldv> Roasted: Well I don't know anything about CloneZilla. But probably you setup a clonezilla server. And use the live cd to get the image from the server.
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> J4k3- Please dont put up posts like that
[23:29] <J4k3-> xen is outrageously easy to implement and use.
[23:29] <marceldv> Roasted: Though,, Don't ask me how. Don't know anything about it.
[23:29] <dalekleader> azimout, is it normal for them to get 250mb+ each?
[23:30] <Roasted> marceldv - I think I know what I did... I think I utilized the entire 80gb drive as an image... whereas I just wanted to use the USED blocks on the HDD as the image.
[23:30] <Lasivian> sigh, I just rebooted and my wireless will not connect
[23:30] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Of course, since we are more knowledgable in the RH flavor of Linux setting it up is not really an issue. Ubuntu is proving to be a tad more difficult than was expected.
[23:30] <Roasted> So basically I was making an image thats 3.5gb into an image thats 80gb with 77gb worth of free space.
[23:30] <Jon5000> Halitech: ummm.  hard to define alot.  I dont think so.  It is a 500GB drive that stores photos, music, video and documents.  About 230GB is used.  Parts of it are It is backed up daily, weekly, and monthly.  So i guess its read from somewhat frequently.  but not writtent to extensively...
[23:30] <Pabremer> I was using Ubuntu 8.04 then I installed Mandriva 2009, but the "mandriva's lilo" did not have the option to Ubuntu so I tried to add Ubuntu in the "lilo.conf" but I failed then when I restarted my computer I cannot access both systems... What can I do to acess Ubuntu again?
[23:31] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: But I think it is all good. As long as we can install the server version without the GUI and we can manage it as we are now (through remoting in or through SSH) we are golden.
[23:31] <Halitech> Jon5000, what format is it? NTFS? fat32?
[23:31] <badawi> Pabremer: mandriva uses grub just like ubuntu, and by default it has "othe linux" selection
[23:31] <marceldv> Roasted: Ok.. Maybe there's a setting somewhere.. Anyway I gotta go. Good luck !! :)
[23:31] <Paw> Need Help: I am doing an install for Ubuntu, I am stuck at a redish background and a grey box.. I can move the mouse but it is laggy.. Any ideas what to do?
[23:31] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: that is why in most of my work, i use ESX to install the OSes even for SQL/Emaiil servers. it is far much easier to set up a new virtualized Ubuntu to test the new OS against our products and softwares and crap like that, once it is done, we move it forward and leave the noncompatibles behind so that we can fix it
[23:31] <Roasted> thanks!
[23:32] <marceldv> Roasted: No problem!
[23:32] <Paw> Need Help: I am doing an install for Ubuntu, I am stuck at a redish background and a grey box.. I can move the mouse but it is laggy.. Any ideas what to do?
[23:32] <Pabremer> badawi: ok, but it didn't appear in the grub
[23:32] <azimout> dalekleader: yes... can you remember any of your programs crashing recently?
[23:32] <pan> can u backup windows by mounting first then tar czvfp backup.tgz?
[23:32] <Jon5000> Halitech: Fat32.  FWIW, I have seen others posting in forums with similar problems but havent seen any great resolution from the heavens.  in some cases the people solved their problem with solutions that didint work for me.
[23:33] <Pabremer> badawi: instead of conventional grub, is being used Mandriva's grub
[23:33] <azimout> paw: did you get any error messages?
[23:33] <Paw> azimout: no
[23:33] <dalekleader> azimout, no, it was the first time I saw those files since feb
[23:33] <Jon5000> Halitech: in other cases there was no resolution
[23:33] <Halitech> Jon5000, ok, was thinking maybe NTFS which does seem to be flaky at times with mounting
[23:33] <mikhailt> Paw: are you after the installation or during the installation
[23:33] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: ESX? I think I am more n00B than I let on. :(
[23:33] <badawi> Pabremer: is mandriva grub on mbr and ubunt grub on /dev/sda2 or something like that?
[23:33] <_cb> paw couple of things that have worked for me. 1.- If booting from CD is not working try running Ubuntu from CD and installing from there.  If that does not work change mode to safe graphics (F4) on initial install
[23:33] <Paw> mik: during the installing, Im at it now..
[23:33] <b52laptop> ppl how to desactivate the gnome background image
[23:33] <azimout> paw: try checking the livecd for errors, and also running a memtest86+
[23:34] <Paw> azi: I checked for erros, and I am running off the live cd
[23:34] <gnutron> b52laptop: right click on the desktop
[23:34] <mikhailt> Paw: sounds like it may not work with your monitor or graphic card
[23:34] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: So if we have a brand new box with no OS on it how would you install Ubuntu 8.10 server on it?
[23:34] <Lasivian> what would make a wireless device stop working? I didn;t muck with it, I just rebooted
[23:34] <Paw> mik: so how do I solve that?
[23:34] <b52laptop> gnutron, i want to select it true a personnal script
[23:34] <psudo> IndyGunFreak,  Why you not aim me no more?
[23:34] <Pabremer> badawi: i don't know.. i think mandriva is in "sda6" and ubuntu in "sda2" or the contrary
[23:34] <Paw> mik: I just have a grey box with a ][ curse but together..
[23:34] <Roasted> Has anybody ever created an image with CloneZilla?
[23:34] <b52laptop> i mean gnome must not touch the backgournd at all
[23:34] <pan> can u backup windows by mounting first then tar czvfp backup.tgz?
[23:34] <hatter243> In Ubuntu, when a program requires a password and you select to "always remember" that password. Where is it stored?
[23:34] <b52laptop> not just change it
[23:35] <Jon5000> Halitech: vfat would be fat32, right?
[23:35] <Halitech> Lasivian, did you check your network applet and try to connect to your wireless network?
[23:35] <Halitech> Jon5000, fat32 or fat16
[23:35] <Pabremer> badawi: i just wanna backup 8gbs of files in Ubuntu then reinstall only Ubuntu in my hd
[23:35] <gnutron> b52laptop: i can't help you there, sorry.
[23:35] <mgolisch> pan: no
[23:35] <b52laptop> gnutron, thanks ;d
[23:35] <Lasivian> halitech: yes, it sees the network, but it's not able to connect to either of my routers, no settings have changed and I rebooted both of them
[23:35] <badawi> !paste
[23:35] <Halitech> RobertGonzalez, boot from the alt install cd and install
[23:35] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: ESX is a complete bareborne server virtualization platform from VMWare, you install it first on the server, then remotely you install the OS or locally depending on which version of ESX you use
[23:35] <antix> d
[23:35] <Lasivian> I was connected, then I rebooted and it has not reconnect
[23:36] <zedster> I get this error when I open apptitude then it crashes  E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[23:36] <Halitech> Lasivian, do the sudo iwlist again and see if its still seeing them
[23:36] <mgolisch> pan: for fat32 that might work but it doenst for ntfs as tar wouldnt save any attributes or permissions for the files
[23:36] <badawi> Pabremer: try adding somthing like this in mandriva grub file http://paste.ubuntu.com/83758/
[23:36] <mikhailt> RobertGonzalez: it is also free now, so you can test and play around with it
[23:36] <pan> k
[23:36] <The-Kernel> Hi so for some reason when I click on the network icon, and then menu comes down, everything is grayed out. How do I change that?
[23:37] <badawi> Pabremer: u'll need to play with the values to suit you, the sda2 part and the 1 and 2 number that goes with hd0
[23:38] <badawi> Pabremer: please don't pm me
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: its easier
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: lots of mesages here
[23:38] <Pabremer> badawi: please
[23:38] <kindofabuzz> how do i make it to where intrepid can play more than one sound at once?
[23:38] <badawi> Pabremer: that's how we roll over here
[23:38] <Lasivian> Halitech, shutdown/pull power & battery then restart seems to have fixed it
[23:38] <kindofabuzz> like i want pidgin sounds while playing a media file
[23:39] <Halitech> Lasivian, ok
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[23:39] <badawi> !grub | Pabremer
[23:39] <Pabremer> badawi: ok, btw... what can i do to see what's my ubuntu and mandriva partition?
[23:39] <Lasivian> I hate knowing windows so well and being so damned unix stupid.. grr
[23:39] <badawi> Pabremer: and google something called supergrub, it will boot into anything from anything
[23:39] <mikhailt> Lasivian: everybody start out everywhere
[23:39] <Pabremer> badawi: then i'll create the "way" to ubuntu and mandriva again in grub
[23:39]  * Lasivian cries in her ice cream
[23:39] <Viflux> Hi everyone.  Network share question...I've mounted a network drive (on a Debian server) from my Ubuntu machine.  I can't save files to it from applications, and when I do "touch [file]" I am told that [file] is "not a directory".  I can confirm that the share is working properly as I can access it from other machines (Vista/XP/Debian).  Thoughts?
[23:40] <Lasivian> mikhailt, yes, it's just frustrating when you know what's wrong, but not what steps to take to troubleshoot :)
[23:40] <Halitech> Lasivian, we all start somewhere but I know wha tyou mean, it can be quite humbling to realize how little we know when we come over to linux
[23:40] <benzss> what would i do if i wanted to own /mnt ? something to do with chown?
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasivian Not to worry, since you wont be chasing down virii and reinstalling windows you will have time to learn this os quite fast
[23:40] <Lasivian> like cars, "ok, I have a flat tire, but why does this car have no lug nuts?!?!"
[23:40] <Guest66429> j
[23:41] <mikhailt> Lasivian: i love it, it's the part of the reason im in IT, it's like being a detective
[23:41] <kindofabuzz> how do i make it to where intrepid can play more than one sound at once? with alsa, or does alsa not support that?
[23:41] <Lasivian> mikhailt, yeah, "House M.D."
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> kindofabuzz I called up the sound factiod a minute ago
[23:41] <Pabremer> badawi: i cannot use supergrub because i dont have any cd
[23:41] <kindofabuzz> Jack_Sparrow, and that factoid says use alsa
[23:41] <gnutron> benzss: sudo chown user:group /mnt  would be the syntax. /media is another option.
[23:42] <mikhailt> Lasivian: love the show, the only difference is I dont intent to kill my pc just to find out what problem it has
[23:42] <Lasivian> heh
[23:42] <Lasivian> I fried 2 motherboards last week
[23:42] <badawi> Pabremer: you can boot usb and floppy too http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:42] <RobertGonzalez> mikhailt: Thanks for the info. I will be looking up ESX shortly.
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > Pabremer
[23:42] <mikhailt> Lasivian: well then... you on the right track
[23:43] <Lasivian> mikhailt, hah
[23:43] <RobertGonzalez> Halitech: Thanks. Our admin figured that part out after about 20 failed attempts and setting it up. He figured out the alt install CD and got it working from there. Then ran into that issue of removing the GUI having problems.
[23:43] <Pabremer> !pm > Jack_Sparrow
[23:44] <elphias> how do i kill x to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Pabremer I know what pm is thanks
[23:44] <Halitech> RobertGonzalez, should have been an option to do the server install which wouldnt have a gui
[23:44] <mikhailt> does anybody ever find a job thur the IRC? would be nice to get jobs
[23:45] <Pabremer> the end of my grub.lst :
[23:45] <Pabremer> ## ## End Default Options ##
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> elphias  hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff, using sudo. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[23:45] <Pabremer> title		Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
[23:45] <Pabremer> root		(hd0,1)
[23:45] <Pabremer> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=ee580cdd-cfa4-4d68-abb7-0c50b33e70be ro quiet splash locale=pt_BR
[23:45] <Pabremer> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
[23:45] <FloodBot1> Pabremer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <gnutron> elphias: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  or kdm for kubuntu.
[23:45] <badawi> !ot | mikhailt
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Pabremer
[23:45] <elphias> gnutron: thank you for your help ^_^
[23:45] <mrwes> re
[23:46]  * elphias poofs to install nvidia drivers
[23:46] <mrwes> anyone know if the ppa repos for open office 3.0 for Hardy will ever be available?
[23:46] <tim167_> when i pipe a sudo command with | and the part after | should also be 'sudo-ed' do i repeat sudo after | ?
[23:46] <fosco_> mrwes: don't think so
[23:46] <LjL> tim167_: yes, although it's kind of unusual for *both* parts of a piped command to need sudo
[23:47] <mrwes> doesn't make friggin' sense they have them for Ibex, but not for a LTS version
[23:47] <erUSUL> tim167_: which command line ?
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> tim167_ sudo should hold for 5 minutes (that window only)
[23:47] <mrwes> fosco_, thanks...
[23:47] <psudo> hmm can some one explain to me what a dns server dose exactly ?
[23:47] <tim167_> LjL, erUSUL  its this: gzip -dc /mnt/hdb1/system_drive_backup.img.gz | dd of=/dev/hda
[23:47] <psudo> i googled for a definition but uh didnt recive quite what i was looking for
[23:47] <Pabremer> I installed Mandriva then the ubuntu's grub dessapeared... Trying to add ubuntu in the mandriva's grub I did something wrong and now i cannot access mandriva and ubuntu... what can i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:47] <erUSUL> tim167_: yes you need sudo i this case...
[23:47] <Halitech> psudo, translates words into IP addresses so the net can understand them
[23:48] <j_xinudsb> wiki DNS
[23:48] <etherael> I notice there seems to be no irc server in the ubuntu packages, but that's not that big of a deal because I'm imagining that there's now some new and jazzy better web based collab tool that would do the same job as an irc server would otherwise do that I can whack on my local web server and then hand out the web address to people. Does such a beast exist?
[23:48] <azimout> psudo: try wikipedia...
[23:48] <tim167_> erUSUL, ok, but do i have to repeat 'sudo' after the '|' ?
[23:48] <psudo> Halitech,  So what is the point of having a dns server ?
[23:48] <Pabremer> !paste > Jack_Sparrow
[23:48] <Jon5000> Halitech, good to chat w. you.  gotta run.  thanks.
[23:48] <kitche> etherael: there is many irc servers in the repos
[23:48] <LjL> tim167_: sudo on both, yes. you can also always go to "sudo -i" when doing complex operations like that
[23:48] <Halitech> psudo, would you rather have to remember millions of IP addresses?
[23:48] <badawi> psudo: dns server translates www.google.com into 66.102.9.104 and ...
[23:49] <badawi> !ot | psudo
[23:49] <etherael> kitche, hmmm nothing coming up except clients when I search for "irc server" ?
[23:49] <erUSUL> tim167_: i will use it only after the | i do not think you need sudo tu unzip a file but you sure need it to wrtte to a raw block device
[23:49] <mikhailt> etherael: there are irc servers, you might be looking int eh wrong place
[23:49]  * Flare183 laughs
[23:49] <kitche> etherael: hmm odd try to see if unrealircd comes up
[23:49] <mikhailt> etherael: usually the servers dont name themselve irc server
[23:49] <tim167_> LjL ok thanks, then I think i found why i got 'permission denied' before :)
[23:49] <etherael> checking.
[23:49] <LjL> tim167_: actually anyway whether or not you need "sudo" on the "gzip" part depends on what permissions the /mnt/hdb1 mount has
[23:50] <etherael> kitche, nope, nothing, and it's searching in all available apps, I'll try apt-get from cmdline h5.
[23:50] <Paw> I am happy this irc channel is here.. its helpful :)
[23:50] <tim167_> LjL is it ok to use sudo even if it's not needed (i started the command now, but i could interrupt it if necessary)
[23:50] <psudo> badawi,  it has somthing to do with ubuntu i am asking the questions because i installed a dns server on my server and i wanted to know how to use it :P
[23:51] <LjL> tim167_: it's bad form (and potentially dangerous if you mistype something), but it will work just fine.
[23:51] <tim167_> LjL ok cool, thanks
[23:51] <Halitech> psudo, unless you register it then its not going to do anything
[23:51] <badawi> psudo: you don't need to have it installed, trust me
[23:52] <psudo> badawi just cause i seem like a retard dont mean i dont want to learn how to use it :D
[23:52] <jayk-> does ubuntu support ext4?
[23:52] <mrwes> uh?
[23:52] <Paw> Suggestion: What should I do for ubuntu partion, guided use the largest continuous free space?
[23:52] <badawi> psudo: nobody called you that, dns server is for ISPs
[23:53] <chronographer> hi all I got problems with audio on intrepid. http://pastebin.com/m7c9d8445 this is get when testing with 'sound preferences' restarting alsa-utils and pulseaudio doesn't work
[23:53] <mrwes> Paw, try a manual and setup a root / , a /home and a swap
[23:53] <Flare183> jayk-: I didn't know that ext4 existed
[23:53] <chronographer> mpd wont play music (it usually does)
[23:53] <psudo> badawi,  i am looking into web and domain hosting :P
[23:53] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, well how much free space do you want to give to ubuntu?
[23:53] <Halitech> badawi, hosting companies will use them as well if they are big enough
[23:53] <Pabremer> i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:53] <Paw> mrwes: how do i do that lol
[23:53] <jeremy_> Hi
[23:53] <amikrop> Hello. VLC crashes when I try to switch to Fullscreen. Any help, please?
[23:53] <kitche> psudo: there is many documents on the web depending on which DNS server you have installed
[23:53] <jeremy_> Could somebody please help me set up dual monitors on my ubuntu 8.10?
[23:54] <Paw> indy: Well i had 20 gigs free is that enough for ubuntu?
[23:54] <macondo> I'm not able to mount an audio cd, could it be DRM?
[23:54] <mikhailt> badawi: no it aint just for ISP, most businesses use it as well not just ISP
[23:54] <genii> psudo: When someone requests a domain you own, their browser or so asks how to get there and resolve the name to an ip. So thru a chain of requests finally some box asks your machine "are you the primary nameserver for this domain?" If so then it responds and then they now arrive at your domain
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, if you're this co9njfused, i would ust setup a / and a swap
[23:54] <jeremy_> Coulod somebody please help me set up dual monitors on ubuntu
[23:54] <jbernard_> jayk-: not currently, i believe the testing team is working on it now
[23:54] <jayk-> cool
[23:54] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, 20gigs is plenty, is this machine gonna dual boot?
[23:54] <Flare183> !dualhead | jeremy_
[23:54] <jayk-> cool, cant wait for it. :)
[23:54] <Paw> Indy: for now until I can figure out enough about ubuntu to take off horrid windows.
[23:54] <mrwes> Paw, there are plenty of on line guides http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[23:54] <Halitech> psudo, you would be better off using something like zoneedit.com since it is already registered as a DNS server
[23:54] <kitche> jayk-: I believe it does but not sure since I have not touched ext4
[23:55] <Paw> Actually, just going to use it all for ubuntu :-p.
[23:55] <jeremy_> um
[23:55] <kitche> Halitech: huh you don't have to register a DNS server
[23:55] <genii> psudo: You may want to ask along this line in #ubuntu-server since desktop version does not need or have bind installed
[23:55] <jeremy_> could somebody actually HELP ME set up dual head
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, then i would leave you a little space on the drive for windows.
[23:55] <punzada> does anyone know any ncurses based binary news readers?
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> maybe give 15gigs to ubuntu.
[23:55] <jeremy_> not just give me a dictionary definition?
[23:55] <Paw> Indy: I am going to take off windows I think.
[23:55] <Halitech> kitche, if its not registered somewhere then how will the other servers know to look for it?
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, i w9ouldn't do that, you'll ended up frustrated, and using windows again in less than a week
[23:55] <jeremy_> somebody please help me
[23:55] <IndyGunFreak> happens to everyone who does that without at least experimenting first
[23:55] <Paw> Indy: I have my laptop with everything I need, My desktop is old and something to fiddle with :-p
[23:56] <jbernard_> jayk-: you're free to use ext4 now, but I doubt ted's got all the kinks worked out yet
[23:56] <jayk-> ext4 might be in jaunty?
[23:56] <Pabremer> ﻿i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:56] <jayk-> alpha1?
[23:56] <chronographer> anyone help with audio playback please? http://pastebin.com/m5fc3f7f1
[23:56] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, oh, well in that case, that would be a good idea, just tell it to take over the whole drive, and it will do everything else
[23:56] <jbernard_> jayk-: i wouldn't be surprised
[23:56] <Paw> Indy: I think I did, It saids Ubuntu 100% so.. yeah
[23:56] <Pici> jayk-: Some of it should be in there, but ext4 itself is not finished.
[23:56] <kitche> Halitech: easy it's just a config file really that you setup to tell a root server about the DNS but you don't register a DNS server only time you need to register a DNS server is though a registrar so that it actually knows where the domain points to for DNS
[23:56] <IndyGunFreak> Paw, ok.
[23:56] <mrwes> Paw, Have you tried a Live CD to see if Ubuntu will run with your hardware?
[23:57] <jayk-> yeah..i shouldnt use ext4 on my mailserver...
[23:57] <Paw> Indy: And Windows is crap.. so bye bye :-p I am fiddling with it on my old desktop so when I am ready, I am going to put my laptop into ubuntu!
[23:57] <jayk-> with these large drives, fsck takes forever...like 45 minutes
[23:57] <Paw> mrwes: I have had ubuntu on this computer before and it runs, but I didnt have time to fiddle and only one computer, so windows went back on it
[23:57] <Pici> jayk-: Definitely not, I wouldn't use it unless you are planning to develop the filesystem itself.
[23:57] <Halitech> kitche, but you need to register with the root server so it wil accept the information
[23:57] <mrwes> Paw, gotcha
[23:57] <Pabremer> ﻿i installed mandriva ubuntu didn't appear in the mandriva's grub... trying to fix it I modificatead the mandriva's grub and now i cannot acces mandriva and ubuntu... what should i do to access ubuntu again?
[23:57] <genii> jayk-: Try running it on a 7 hard drive raid 5 with all 1Tb drives :/
[23:57] <Paw> So now i have a laptop with windows and everything important and a free computer to fiddle with!
[23:57] <Paw> So if it goes boom no biggy
[23:58] <jayk-> genii: i have a 4gb array with 6 drives and 1 spare
[23:58] <jayk-> but im using zfs
[23:58] <mikhailt> Halitech: yes you register the domain with the domain registrar and they send the DNS info to the root servers
[23:58] <mrwes> Paw, yah I do that too.. I have my desktop running Hardy LTS and my laptop running Ibex
[23:58] <Paw> mrwes: Very nice, I have my laptop (dont kill me..) Windows vista, and my desktop setting up ubuntu..
[23:58] <mrwes> although Ibex has been pretty stable
[23:58] <Halitech> mikhailt, so the DNS server is still being registered
[23:58] <almark> Is is possible to upgrade Ubuntu intrepix  8.10 to Ubuntu Studio, the Studio live cd gave me problems installing. The cd is Ubuntu 8.10 also
[23:58] <jayk-> genii: oops..4tb using raid6
[23:59] <kitche> Halitech: no you don't
[23:59] <mrwes> Paw, Ibex runs great on my Dell D600
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: Only thing I think this ati radeon card on my desktop is going to give me some bad news..
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: I have a hp 64 bit
[23:59] <elementz> is there a difference between the nvidia driver provided in the repositories, and the legacy driver?
[23:59] <genii> jayk-: It's painful, I know. I usually let it run overnight
[23:59] <mrwes> Paw, you might want to go with Ibex then, better support for ATI cards
[23:59] <fosco_> elementz: legacy is for old ones (also provided by repos)
[23:59] <Paw> mrwes: Oh really? Damn already started installing lol