| keesj | hi | 09:01 |
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| kysucix | hi | 15:13 |
| kysucix | how can I generate a custom event from a script? (not with emit from command line) | 15:13 |
| notting | dumb answer: have your script call initctl emit | 15:26 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: around? | 18:55 |
| Keybuk | yup | 18:58 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: So, I've been assessing things, and in order to start writing the state machine, I need 1) to know the rough protocol for talking to pid 1 (mostly the division of responsibilites. specifics can come later) 2) Libnih needs to unblock me | 18:59 |
| sadmac2 | 1 I think we could hash out fairly quickly | 18:59 |
| sadmac2 | 2 is kind of bugging me. I don't like that things are hung because of libnih, and I might seriously propose going without it for awhile | 19:00 |
| sadmac2 | at least on my end | 19:00 |
| Keybuk | what's the panic'd rush? | 19:00 |
| sadmac2 | eager beaver syndrome | 19:02 |
| sadmac2 | runs in my family | 19:02 |
| Keybuk | I'm really not expecting to start serious work on any of this until next year | 19:03 |
| sadmac2 | I've been thinking of writing a state machine as a separate project in the meantime. | 19:05 |
| sadmac2 | when you're ready you can pick it up, or we can scrap it and write a new one | 19:06 |
| ion_ | I should take a good look at this state machine thing of yours. | 19:07 |
| ion_ | I skimmed through the ruby prototype, but didn’t manage to understand it only based on the code. | 19:08 |
| sadmac2 | the fact that its a very conceptually declarative task being implemented in a high level imperative language makes it a bit hard to follow | 19:09 |
| sadmac2 | there's some odd hackish bits that are there to keep things sync'd | 19:10 |
| ion_ | Is there some documentation for this state machine thing? | 19:11 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: there's that huge mailing list posting... | 19:12 |
| * sadmac2 checks to see if there's any RDoc | 19:12 | |
| sadmac2 | there's some minimal rdoc | 19:13 |
| sadmac2 | the test cases are probably more worth looking at than the state machine itself | 19:13 |
| sadmac2 | from a "what the hell's going on" perspective | 19:14 |
| ion_ | Ah, i forgot about the mailing list post. I’ll take a new look at it. | 19:14 |
| ion_ | sadmac: Btw, i found out about Cucumber recently, you might find it interesting. http://github.com/aslakhellesoy/cucumber/wikis/ | 19:28 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: interesting | 19:31 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: I think being that high level has its dangers though. When its that close to plain english it becomes unclear where the formal subset ends. | 19:33 |
| ion_ | sadmac: Real-life examples for the state machine would be helpful for understanding it. | 19:44 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: my mind always goes blank when I get asked for an example | 19:54 |
| sadmac2 | :) | 19:54 |
| ion_ | sadmac: About cucumber, http://goruco2008.confreaks.com/01_helmkamp.html (/me is watching it right now) | 20:15 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: I'll hit it up when I get home tonight :) | 20:15 |
| sadmac2 | ion_: ah, so the thing doesn't really "understand" english | 20:19 |
| sadmac2 | its a simple pattern match | 20:19 |
| ion_ | Indeed | 20:19 |
| sadmac2 | hmm, a logo contest | 20:20 |
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