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knoppixhi, how do  i connect from kde to a smb server (gnome user here) , the smb server is on my subnet00:25
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knomeknoppix, ask #kubuntu00:26
knoppixhome, oops sorr00:27
knoppixsorry00:27
ron_omight have found a bug in 8.0400:53
ron_okeyboard shortcuts. I add the keyboard shortcut, say 'xkill' .. then it asks me for the shortcut and won't let me place it anywhere.00:54
ron_onevermind. you have to type the keys on the keyboard. just weird.00:55
McCallisterHey guys.01:18
McCallisterI lost my panel.01:19
McCallisterhello dsmith01:22
phixhi McCallister01:29
phixhow are you?01:29
McCallisterI'm alright.01:30
McCallisterI lost my panel.01:31
McCallisterNot sure how to restart it.01:31
McCallisterxfce401:32
knomeMcCallister, alt+f2 > xfce4-panel01:32
Recursiv3How do I enable SHMConfig in Xubuntu 8.10? The xorg.conf file is not working.01:34
McCallisterI'm not sure.01:50
phixMcCallister: :(01:52
Kudihow do i get conky to show my ip address?  What did i do wrong?: IP - ${color white}${addr interface}01:56
McCallisterThat's it!!01:58
McCallisterGot it. Thanks a bunch01:58
Recursiv3How do I edit my touchpad settings in Intrepid Ibex?02:01
Recursiv3I can't use GSynaptics because I can't enable SHMConfig02:02
McCallisterI'm not sure.02:04
McCallisterWhat type of laptop?02:04
Recursiv3eeePC02:08
McCallisterAre there any posts about it on the forums?02:09
Recursiv3Yes. They don't seem to work.02:09
Recursiv3I just need some way to turn tapping off.02:10
McCallisterThat would get annoying.02:11
McCallisterWhat operating system came installed?02:12
Recursiv3A version of Xandros.02:13
Recursiv3It was really dumbed down; I needed a real OS.02:13
ballCP/M-80 ftw02:14
ballSpeaking of "dumbed down", I think Mrs. ball's next PC will have MS Windows Vista Home Basic02:15
Recursiv3God damn it.02:16
ballWhat's wrong?02:16
Recursiv3I've been trying for at least a week to get tapping disabled.02:16
Recursiv3This damn computer.02:17
ballOn a trackpad?02:17
Recursiv3YEs.02:17
ballYeah, that would be annoying.02:17
balls/would/could/02:17
ballIs it a CMOS setting?02:17
Recursiv3No, you are supposed to be able to use gsynaptics, but it doesn't work on Intrepid.02:17
ballSo there's no CMOS setting to disable it?02:18
Recursiv3I will check, I am almost certain not.02:18
ballDefinitely worth checking.  If the firmware's passing "clicks" to the OS, there's nothing gsynaptics (or whatever) will be able to do about it.02:19
Recursiv3No, no option.02:19
ballhello effie_jayx02:19
ballRecursiv3: that's odd.02:19
effie_jayxhello ball02:19
Recursiv3I have not been able to get any touchpad configuration stuff running.02:20
ballAre you running some sort of touchpad driver, or just generic mouse?02:21
Recursiv3IDK.02:21
Recursiv3I think there is some sort of driver installed.02:21
ballI'm inclined to blame the firmware, but then I'm always inclined to blame the firmware.02:21
ball...because /so/ much firmware is broken, or at best poorly-written02:22
Kudihow do i make the volume applet control pcm instead of master?02:34
ballhello Kudi02:36
Kudiball: hi02:38
Kudiball: what are u bored or something?02:39
Recursiv3Some sites say that I can use xinput to configure the touchpad.02:40
KudiRecursiv3: if your talking to me i have no idea what your talking about but if you are i can google02:41
Recursiv3I'm just saying it to anyone who will listen.02:42
Recursiv3Can anyone tell me what command I would use to disable the tapping using xinput?02:42
Kudiohh...i dont think any1 is answering questions here, there probably all out for tea02:43
ballRecursiv3: I reckon you're barking up the wrong tree.02:43
ballKudi: depends on the question02:43
Recursiv3ball, what do you mean?02:44
ballRecursiv3: Well, I've an idea, but I don't know enough about Xubuntu to know how to test it.02:45
Recursiv3Tell me your idea and I can test it.02:45
Kudiball: ha, what are u trying to say..02:45
ballRecursiv3: There may be a way in Xubuntu (or in X, specifically) to see what events the firmware is sending to your X server.02:46
ballThat could tell you whether your firmware is at fault.02:46
Recursiv3I don't think the firmware is at fault.02:47
ballWhy do you think that?02:48
Recursiv3The OS that was previously installed was able to have tap-to-click disabled.02:48
ballHmm... ok02:48
ballWell that supports your thought.02:48
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D-MANDOES ANYONE KNOW WERE TO GET AN EASY TO USE INVOICE TEMPLATE?03:38
D-MANsry caps03:38
izinucsOO should have one either built in or downloadable.03:38
D-MANizinucs,  tried downloading on for oo but cant edit it it says read only?03:39
izinucsD-MAN, once open in oo save it again with a new name03:40
D-MANkk let me try that03:40
D-MANIZ IT WORKED BOY DO I FEEL DUMB!!!!!03:43
D-MANizinucs,  thnx03:44
izinucsnp.. :)03:44
D-MANmy printer keeps cutting off the right side of page in oo spreadsheeet how can i fix this?05:04
R1cochetis there any way to view printer ink levels?05:51
crawlthewarriorkdoes anyone perhaps know why when I update packages or use apt-get to dl software, it goes really slow (download speed) but on the internet (firefox) I can download really fast?06:01
crawlthewarriorkanyone?06:05
cody-somervillecrawlthewarriork, try a different mirror06:06
crawlthewarriorkhow do you do that using apt-get or update manager?06:07
crimsuncody-somerville: do you know if Xubuntu 9.04 will use PulseAudio?06:09
crimsuncody-somerville: ok, well, if you happen to know, find me during lunch tomorrow06:19
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bebop_anyone available to help with a issue?08:59
generalsnusWe have a problem with our thin clients,  It seems like each user has 2 instances of the process "ps" running.. using 2% cpu each.. as you imagine..this is a problem when there is 30 users logged on.. cpu load is at 90-100%  what can i do?09:04
generalsnusWe have a problem with our LTSP clients.. each user have x2 instances of the process "ps" its eating all cpu. What could be wrong? pstree: http://paste2.org/p/11358509:26
TheSheepgeneralsnus: it's being called by some python script...09:33
TheSheepgeneralsnus: maybe try 'ps auxwww' to see the full command that started it09:34
generalsnushttp://paste2.org/p/113591  is the output of "ps auxwww|grep python "09:44
TheSheepgeneralsnus: what's /usr/bin/scp-client ?09:45
TheSheephmm... it's part of thin-client-manager-backend09:46
TheSheepwhatever it is09:47
TheSheepI see it's placed in autostarted applications09:47
generalsnusisnt it somthing i would need to have autostarted?09:48
TheSheepno idea09:50
TheSheepyou can file a bug for it09:50
TheSheepgeneralsnus: that script is strange09:52
TheSheeplooks like it's written by a java programmer who never saw python before09:52
generalsnushere is the script tho: http://paste2.org/p/11359609:52
TheSheepgeneralsnus: yes, I downloaded it from packages.ubuntu.com09:53
generalsnusah09:53
TheSheepgeneralsnus: it should run the 'perent poller' function every 10 seconds09:54
TheSheepparent_poller09:54
TheSheepit then forks a shell running ps and grep just to see if its parent process is still running09:56
TheSheepmadness09:56
generalsnushm.. we tried to killall python, just to get the system responsive again... cpu load went back to 20%09:58
generalsnusis there somthing i can do to the script, to prevent this?09:58
TheSheepgeneralsnus: let me see09:59
TheSheepgeneralsnus: try this: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/94659/10:03
TheSheepgeneralsnus: but please report the bug too10:06
generalsnusok, ill wait until i can reboot the thing..10:06
generalsnusill report bug aswell as reporting feedback here10:07
generalsnusbrb lunch10:09
R1cochetis there a way to check my printer ink cartridge levels? 8.1011:43
gabkdllyR1cochet: you might check if the site of your printer manufacturer has a page dedicated to linux support11:46
gabkdllyif there is not a way to do this, then it is a bug, since I have heard that running your printer when there is no ink can damage the heads11:46
gabkdllyalthough I guess on some printers it does not matter, you just find out that the cartridges are empty by your printouts fading to white11:47
gabkdllyyou should definitely consult your user manual and/or the printers manufacturers site11:47
likemindeadCan anyone explain why are some updates "kept back" when I try to "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?15:05
likemindeadIs it most likely that there are dependencies for those packages that haven't made it into updates yet?15:06
Shaba1anyone here?16:00
tinglejep16:02
Shaba1Hello tingle16:04
tinglehello Shaba116:04
Shaba1I think I found the answer to my question already16:04
Shaba1but I will stand by just in case16:04
Shaba1here is one though16:05
tinglegood, google is your friend16:05
Shaba1how do I find the version of xubuntu I am running16:05
tinglehm let me think16:05
tingleuname -a maybe16:05
tinglesec ill check16:05
tinglewell you cant really see what XUBUNTU you running whit uname -a16:06
tingleShaba1: applications > help on the top page you can see what version your running16:07
tingleShaba1: Welcome to Xubuntu 8.10! for example16:08
Shaba1that opened a web page in firefox16:09
Shaba1it said welcome to xubuntu 8.04 or something similar16:09
tinglewell than you prolly have 8.0416:11
Shaba1Ok next16:12
Shaba1How do I "install" a .deb file16:12
Shaba1sorry for all the stupid newbie questions16:12
tingledpkg -i packagename.deb16:12
tingleas root ofc..16:12
Shaba1I a quite versed in windows but totally new to linux16:12
tingleits no problem but you can google most of the question too16:13
tingleim sure there has been someone whit the same question before you16:13
Shaba1thanks tingle16:15
tingleno problem Shaba116:16
Shaba1I will still hang out here though16:17
Shaba1Now that I knew there is someone here16:17
Shaba1:D16:17
tinglexD16:18
Shaba1is the not and edit command in linux16:44
ErantHow come my system boots up in the wrong resolution? I've only got about 1/4 of the screen. I can go to the Settings Panel and change the resolution, and then it's fine.16:46
ErantBut it does that everytime I boot16:46
Shaba1ok what question16:52
Shaba1what does '/etc/profile/" do>?16:52
TheSheepShaba1: it's explained in teh first line of that file16:53
ErantHmm, other question then. The GRUB that comes with Ubuntu, would that be GRUB2 or GRUB legacy?17:14
crimsunErant: grub legacy17:17
crimsunErant: we're actually in a session currently at UDS discussing replacing grub legacy with grub 217:18
crimsunErant: and by "GRUB that comes with Ubuntu", I presume you mean not "GRUB available in Ubuntu" (because both are) but "GRUB that is the default bootloader"17:19
MiVoHello, I try to use icecast2 in Xubuntu, but I get this error: "Starting icecast2: start-stop-daemon: Unable to set gid to 123 (Operation not permitted)"17:19
Shaba1what is "UDS"17:20
KudiKAD is firewalled still but i cant control udp in my router settings and i have no idea how to update the node list...all im looking for is a green arrow.  What are my options?17:22
Shaba1linux is so frustrating17:27
Shaba1no wonder it had not made it as a general user OS17:28
KudiShaba1: ha if you think ubuntu is frustrating you need to read a lil more, ubuntu already does so much for you17:29
Shaba1I have been using computer since I brought my first altair 5000 in the 70s17:33
Shaba1I seperate things into how easy is it for someone like me to do operations17:34
Shaba1and how easy it is for a general user to do the an operations17:34
Shaba1and trust me linux is NOT for the average user17:34
TheSheepShaba1: it also hurts that you can't use all your experience from Other Operating Systems (tm)17:37
TheSheepShaba1: on the bright side, you learn a bit of POSIX, which is a standard that is going to stay17:37
Shaba1true17:40
Shaba1and that is why I am learning linus17:40
Shaba1linux17:41
Shaba1right now I am tring to get the roadsendphp compiler to complie itself17:41
Shaba1and its frustrating17:41
TheSheepbootstrapping is always tricky17:44
Shaba1bootstrapping?17:46
Shaba1I used this page17:46
Shaba1http://www.compdigitec.com/labs/2008/07/24/install-roadsend-php-compiler-on-ubuntu-without-compiling-anything/17:46
Shaba1but when I get to step four I get and error. something about pcc.conf not availible or something17:47
TheSheepShaba1: remember how baron Munhausen pulled himself from swamp by his boot straps?17:47
Shaba1nope17:48
TheSheepShaba1: anyways, the process of a program compiling itself or a loading itself into memory, or doing similar things with itself is called 'bootstrapping'17:49
TheSheepShaba1: that's why you 'boot' the operating system17:49
Shaba1I know what that is TheSheep. I just did not see how it applied in this context17:52
TheSheepwell, compiler compiling itself...17:53
Shaba1lol17:56
Shaba1I now it sounds silly17:56
Shaba1did you look at that page?17:56
TheSheepShaba1: took a cursory glance18:00
TheSheepShaba1: not much to do, they provide ready debs, you just have to set up a bunch of environment variables because the debs have the files in wrong places18:01
TheSheepShaba1: btw, instead of setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, you can jsut add it to /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf and run ldconf18:05
TheSheepldconfig18:05
Shaba1what does that do?18:21
Shaba1TheSheep check out this pastbin.18:22
Shaba1http://pastebin.com/d3a5f49ff18:22
Shaba1that is the error I get when I use the -d 2 debug levle18:22
VeinorSo I just switched from GNOME to xfce, what should I know?18:28
knomeVeinor, be happy.18:29
Veinorlol18:30
Veinorbut seriously, what should I get used to doing differently?18:30
MOrashi anyone to help me with xubuntu 6.06. I click on Applications but the list won't show18:31
Shaba1TheSheep are you still here?18:34
knomeVeinor, not really anything in particular.18:37
Veinorawesome18:37
knomebut little things, xfce should be a bit more logical and have some different configurability18:40
knomeyou can just ask if you need help or don't know how something is supposed to be workinhg18:40
knome-h18:40
Veinorso far this is great18:40
knomegood to hear..18:42
Veinorhmm18:45
Veinoralthough my mute button doesn't seem to be able to unmute things18:45
knomedid it work in gnome?18:45
Veinoryep18:45
Veinorand banshee doesn't seem to be liking this at all18:45
knomeVeinor, mine works so i don't have any experience in fixing it18:46
ErantVeinor: Banshee works fine here too18:58
Veinori get stuff like "Trying to dispose element playbin, but it is not in the NULL state.18:58
ErantI'm currently having some issues with XUbuntu as well though. In order to get a proper desktop, I have to re-set the resolution each time I boot. When I boot, I only get 1/4 of the screen :/18:59
ErantIt's like 640x480, with a 1024x768 framebuffer19:00
Veinoryeah, it's doing it even after a reboot. :/19:05
Veinorhmm19:08
Veinortotem's doing it, but VLC isn't, nor is exaile19:08
Veinorer19:08
Veinortotem's glitching, VLC and exaile aren't19:08
Veinorfixed it19:14
Veinorpulseaudio wasn't starting for some reason19:14
Veinornow how do i get the multimedia keys to work again?19:17
ohgodnotanother1hi there19:26
ohgodnotanother1my brother is having trouble with his sound card on a fresh Xubuntu 8.1019:26
ohgodnotanother1where can I set the sound "manager"? OSS or ALSA?19:26
ohgodnotanother1it's a built in intel sound card btw.19:27
ohgodnotanother1the problem: no audio playback under the os19:27
Voluharhello, my instalation of alternate xubuntu freeze up after first reboot in xfce19:36
Aquinahoi20:40
AquinaIs there a way to rename the "/home/<username>/Desktop" direcory to something like ".dektop"?20:41
AquinaIt's often getting into my way...20:41
David-AAquina: there are setting i this file that might be what you want, not tested: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs20:52
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Aquinathx, David-A ;-)21:48
David-Adid it work changing XDG_DESKTOP_DIR?21:49
Aquinawell I need to restart the gdm session. I'm gonna tell you later. ;-)22:01
Aquina5 mins.22:01
David-Ano worries, take your time, no need to hurry for me22:02
ig0r1Hi everybody22:06
ig0r1can anyone please tell me where is the Font dir in xubuntu???22:06
knomeig0r1, you can put fonts in ~/.fonts22:06
knomeig0r1, then fc-cache -f -v22:07
ig0r1knome: but that would be for one user only?22:07
knomeig0r1, yes.22:07
knome!fonts22:07
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer22:07
knomethere you are.22:08
David-Aig0r1: remember, every user config for him self22:08
ig0r1Thank you very much I will read it! ))22:08
Aquinabrb22:21
AquinaIt didn't work. :-(22:21
AquinaI followed there instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-631711.html22:22
David-AAquina: just a hunch, what if, what happens if you add a line "export XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=~/.desktop" in the file ~/.profile or ~/bash_profile (but no "quotes") (and logout/in)22:26
Aquinasec I'm loggin in and out...22:29
Aquinano, It doesn't work22:31
Aquina:-(22:31
David-AAquina: well, i dont know then. remember to restore your ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile and ~/.config/whatsitsnameagain22:33
R1cocheteverytime i try to add an .mp3 to audio project in Brasero it freezes the program22:35
R1cochetis there anyway to fix this?22:35
Aquinathx, David-A22:43
Aquina:-/22:43
David-A:-( with u and the environment, otherwise :-)22:44
Aquina:-)22:45
David-Asorry, no comparision with u and the environment intended22:45
Aquina"with me and the environemnt" - a strange expression...23:27
ubenduIs xubuntu just a shortened-down version of ubuntu? Or is it completely different.23:27
ubenduLooking for something light to run on office computers.23:28
knomeR1cochet, i don't actually know if brasero supports mp323:28
knomeubendu, it's basically the same, but it uses xfce as window manager rather than gnome, so for the enduser it might look quite a lot different23:28
ubenduknome: So it's not 'lighter' at all really? Just different.23:29
knomeubendu, it is also lighter, yes,23:29
ubenduknome, right okay :)23:29
knomeubendu, it really depends on the machine you have whether it's usable23:29
ubenduWell, they have Windows (am I allowed to say that here?) on the server and all computers at the moment23:30
ubenduSo it would be a big conversion.23:30
knomeubendu, how much ram?23:31
ubenduknome: It differs from machine to machine, but I thought the requirements for Windows XP Professional > ubuntu23:32
ubendu> x 100.23:32
knomeubendu, yes...23:33
knomeubendu, which is the lowest? are we talking about 128 or 256 or 51223:33
ubendu25623:33
ubenduI will have to check though first.23:33
knomeit should be ok, but maybe a bit slow user experience.23:34
ubenduWhat would be the easiest way of install ubuntu on all of those computers?23:34
ubenduWe're talking 30/40.23:34
ubenduubuntu-server will be on the server, so is there a net install feature?23:34
knomei'm not actually an expert on this.23:34
knomecody-somerville, ?23:34
TheSheepwe are actually dd-ing the whole hard disk, it's about 100-150 computers23:35
knomehello TheSheep. how are you?23:35
TheSheepwe have a simple linux boot disk that brings up the network, downloads and unzips the disk images and runs grub23:35
TheSheepknome: hi, all good23:36
zoredacheyou probably should consider setting up a apt-cache, you might want to look at pxe booting the mini.iso, you might want to look at building an answer script so you can completely automate the install23:36
TheSheepI admit we do that mainly because we also install windows that way23:36
zoredacheTheSheep: how do you deal with hardware varation?23:37
TheSheepzoredache: our installs are proofed to it23:38
TheSheepzoredache: at least in the range of the computers we have to support23:38
TheSheepzoredache: I thin they use something called sysprep on windows23:38
zoredacheyeah, but on linux boxes, do you do something to resize the partitions to take up all the available space?23:39
TheSheepzoredache: no, we use sfdisk to create the partitions and just leave the empty space as it on the larger disks23:40
TheSheepzoredache: the installs are prepared for the smallest disks we support23:41
zoredacheah23:41
TheSheepit's easier this way, we also have some hooks in /etc/rc.local to run scripts from nfs-mounted partition, so we can add fixes after the install23:42
TheSheepand they will be applied on next boot23:42
TheSheepfor the next year we are working on instalation scripts based on torrent :)23:43
ConstrabusWhat is the default root password to enter su for the xubuntu live CD23:45
ConstrabusIm using the xubuntu live cd to install gentoo on a hard drive.23:46
knomeConstrabus, you should use sudo23:46
j_xinudsbyes --sudo passwod root23:50
j_xinudsbsorry23:50
j_xinudsbsudo passwd root23:50
j_xinudsbto set it23:50
j_xinudsbor $sudo bash23:52
knomeactually i referred to using sudo and not root at all.....23:53

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