[00:01] <tyfon> did you change your os at some point?
[00:01] <bashbin> hi
[00:01] <bashbin> there is a file I am searching for
[00:01] <bashbin> this file defines my documents location to be in ~/Documents/
[00:02] <bashbin> this affects for example kwrite
[00:02] <bashbin> when I want to save a file,  it opens ~/Documents/ by default
[00:02] <bashbin> it should open ~/  by default
[00:04] <tyfon> bashbin: do you mean the button in the file dialog?
[00:04] <bashbin> tyfon, no?
[00:04] <tyfon> do you have a mac?
[00:05] <bashbin> no *g*
[00:05] <tyfon> ;)
[00:05] <bashbin> a toshiba laptop
[00:05] <tyfon> then you have windows probably
[00:05] <bashbin> yep, Windows 8.04
[00:05] <bashbin> ;)
[00:05] <tyfon> oh it came preinstalled with that?
[00:05] <tyfon> erm
[00:05] <bashbin> tyfon, no I installed it by myself
[00:05] <tyfon> rofl
[00:05] <tyfon> sorry
[00:05] <tyfon> i thought i was talking to skole :p
[00:06] <bashbin> tyfon :)
[00:06] <bashbin> tyfon, please open kwrite
[00:06] <bashbin> ALT+F2 -> kwrite
[00:06] <bashbin> CTRL + S  to save it
[00:06] <bashbin> the default location to be displayed in the "Save Dialoque" is  ~/Documents
[00:06] <bashbin> this also effects many other programs
[00:06] <tyfon> hmm
[00:10] <bashbin> tyfon, bye bye :) thx!
[00:13] <antoranz> Hi (again), Guys!
[00:13] <antoranz> A friend of mine is trying to setup a smtp account in kmail and it is not working
[00:13] <antoranz> when she hits OK, the account is not added
[00:13] <antoranz> I just tried with a different user in the same host and it does work for me
[00:14] <antoranz> what can I do?
[00:20] <nmk> Is there any version of Skype on Kubuntu Linux that we can use? and which one is recommended?
[00:23] <Adola> You wanting voice chats?
[00:23] <nmk> no, just a response to my query
[00:23] <Adola> Kopete supports webcam.  But, I'm pretty sure there is a "Skype" for Kubuntu.
[00:24] <nmk> oh, interesting. Is it provided in the default bundled package?
[00:24] <nmk> or is it separately downloadable?
[00:25] <Pici> No, Skype is not open source.  You should be able to find it in the medibuntu repository.
[00:25] <Pici> !medibuntu | nmk
[00:29] <nmk> talk 'where does the medibuntu repository reside'
[00:30] <Pici> nmk: Hm? What do you mean?
[00:32] <genii> nmk: If you visit the URL provided above it gives instructions on how to add the repository from there into your ubuntu system
[00:32] <Adola> You have to add the deb://whateveritis to your sources.  And update.
[00:32] <Adola> I believe.
[00:33] <nmk> I'm proceeding through the link provided, but haven't found the add repository instructions yet
[00:34] <genii> nmk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[00:37] <FM2n-> how do i make ubuntu NOT suck
[00:37] <Adola> Isn't that called Trolling?  And, Ubuntu doesn't SUCK.
[00:38] <Adola> UAK
[00:38] <genii> FM2n: Learn to use it
[00:38] <genii> Bah, too late
[00:39] <Adola> He's a wind$dows user.
[00:39] <Adola> SORRY :D  Window$
[00:40] <FM2n-> lol
[00:40] <iLOVEwinXP> =)
[00:41]  * iLOVEwinXP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:41] <Adola> o.O
[00:41] <Clyde> What don't you like about Ubuntu?
[00:41] <iLOVEwinXP> mostly the drivers
[00:41] <Adola> Video drivers?
[00:41] <iLOVEwinXP> once thats all settled, i love it
[00:41] <Adola> OR WiFI drives?
[00:41] <iLOVEwinXP> wifi
[00:42] <Adola> Ndiswrapper.
[00:42] <Clyde> :(
[00:42] <Clyde> Wifi worked out-of-the-box for me
[00:42] <FM2n> im on ubuntu rright now
[00:42] <FM2n> and whats up with the keyboard delay control
[00:42] <FM2n> the adjustments make little to no difference
[00:42] <Adola> You can change that.
[00:42] <FM2n> its still fasttttttttttttttt
[00:42] <FM2n> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[00:42] <Adola> Yeah, which is how it should be.
[00:43] <FM2n> they delay should be able to be longer
[00:43] <FM2n> i type double letters at times
[00:43] <Pici> File a bug then.
[00:43] <Adola> You can set the delay longer.
[00:43] <Pici> Or look at the existing bugs to see if it was fixed for newer KDE releases.
[00:44] <FM2n> noooooo
[00:44] <FM2n> so lazyyyyyyyyyyy
[00:44] <FM2n> must.... revert.... to..... xP
[00:44] <FM2n> j/k
[00:44] <Adola> I get your humor...BUT, You must realize your in a Kubuntu place of worship...Troling isn't cool.
[00:45] <Adola> Nor is advertising..
[00:45] <Adola> my MSN is atiradeonman@hotmail.com  ADD ME
[00:45] <FM2n> im not trolling
[00:45] <FM2n> im just conversing
[00:45] <FM2n> i love ubuntu
[00:45] <Pici> Well, #kubuntu is really a support channel.  If you just want to talk about it then you can join #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:46] <Adola> yeah, you kinda gotta join the other room for conversing.
[00:46] <Adola> SUPER SMART HUMANS and I live here in this room.
[00:46] <Adola> To help humans.
[00:47] <korn> how to we find the detailed ubuntu 8 version we are using: e.g. 8.10 or 8.04?
[00:48] <korn> how *do* we find ... sorry!
[00:49] <genii> korn: lsb_release -a
[00:49] <korn> excellent - thanks!
[00:49] <Pici> !nickspam
[00:50] <genii> Also it's just darn annoying when you've already typed a reply to one nick that is different, then you adjust name, then it changes again, etc etc
[00:51] <korn> okay, sorry. I wan't aware of any other method to change the nick.
[00:54] <FM2n> im gonna make my own distro
[00:54] <korn> just curious: but what does the .d suffix refer to?
[00:54] <FM2n> and call it obama
[00:54] <Adola> #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:54] <FM2n> as you would guess, there will be lots of CHANGES
[00:55] <Adola> AHAHAH
[00:55] <HappySmileMan> FM2n: http://www.blackbirdhome.com/
[00:55] <HappySmileMan> Default browser?
[00:56] <FM2n> they beat me to it!
[00:56] <FM2n> reverse racism
[00:56] <FM2n> !
[00:57] <FM2n> ok im off of work, gotta run.. cya guys =)
[00:57] <hoxtonhopper> FM2n: hey, anyone can use it
[00:57] <MortalBrian> Howdey All
[00:58] <korn> .d anyone?
[00:59] <Adola> Hello
[01:04] <burn_> !pastebin
[01:06] <Ch1ppy> hey, I'm thinking of picking myself up another (read: third) screen, with the associated extra video card, but I was wondering how well dual GPUs work right now. Do they work okay together? Is it okay to mix and match (nvidia and ati cards in one box), etc?
[01:07] <Adola> Yes, multi GPU's work great.  It's a cheap way to do soemthing good.
[01:07] <genii> korn: You want to know what the .d part of init.d means for instance?
[01:07] <Adola> And, NO, You can't mix ATi  and nVidia.
[01:08] <Ch1ppy> Adola: Perfect. Thanks
[01:08]  * Firefishe is Trying out Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.1 live cd on Asus G50V-X1.  Sees my wireless, sound is good, dns lookup and web page loading is fast on both firefox 3 (installed from repositories via synaptic) and konqueror.
[01:08] <Adola> nVidia's solution to multi GPU's are SLi  and ATi's is Crossfire.
[01:08] <Ch1ppy> Adola: Oh, sorry. Not quite what I meant
[01:08] <Ch1ppy> Adola: What I want to do is have them independent
[01:08] <Firefishe> Any reason to not install over debian lenny 64bit kernel?
[01:09] <Adola> Ch1ppy: ATi's crossfire is a little more forgiving with different type of Crossfire able cards.
[01:09] <Adola> Two sets of dual GPU'S in one box?!?!?
[01:09] <Ch1ppy> Adola: no no
[01:09] <genii> Ch1ppy: I have in one box here an 8800 gts and an ati 1650 in different slots, nothings exploded yet except my brain
[01:09] <Ch1ppy> Adola: I'd like to have two graphics cards not hooked together via SLi or the like
[01:09] <Firefishe> Adola...old news.  Go to www.sager.com, and look for at some of their higher-end models.
[01:09] <Firefishe> blast...
[01:09] <Firefishe> Adola:  www.sagernotebook.com
[01:09] <Firefishe> sorry there
[01:10] <korn> genii: yes, that is correct
[01:10] <Adola> Crossfire is old news?!?!!?  IT"S THE WAVEEEEEEEEE
[01:10] <Ch1ppy> genii: Okay, that's perfect. Thanks :)
[01:10] <genii> korn: It means "daemon"
[01:10] <szrhawaii> is it possible to have amarok 2 on kde 3.5
[01:10] <Firefishe> Which nvidia driver should I use to get the most out of my Nvidia 9700M GT 512mb chipset in my Asus G50V?
[01:11] <Adola> genji: may I ask why do you or...HOW do you....Need/want/use two different video cards not working togheter.
[01:11] <korn> genii: thanks, does it have a special handling mechanism in ubuntu
[01:11] <szrhawaii> !amarok
[01:11] <Adola> szrhawaii: yes it is.
[01:11] <szrhawaii> how do i manage that
[01:12] <Ch1ppy> Adola: I want to do the same thing. I'll need it for screen #3, because I'm that hardcore :)
[01:12] <genii> korn: update-rc.d   will set what daemons run at what runlevels of the machine.
[01:13] <genii> korn: But generally if you call a script in /etc/init.d   for instance, you give it some argument like stop/start/restart      or so which tells it what to do
[01:13] <szrhawaii> adola how do i do that
[01:13] <Adola> yeah, that's pretty hardcore BUT in CPU's magazine this month..They did a 14 monitor computereee
[01:14] <Ch1ppy> Adola: I said I was hardcore. Not crazy.
[01:14] <Adola> AmaroK 2 is just now in AmaroK 2 RC1
[01:14] <Adola> AHAHAH, yeah!
[01:15] <Adola> szrhawaii: which means.  It's NOT out in official supported respreieriories just yet.
[01:15] <szrhawaii> do i need to add anymore files besides the standard amarok file
[01:15] <Adola> BUT, you can get it using nightly.
[01:15] <szrhawaii> do you have the place to get the unofficial repos
[01:15] <Adola> Yeah, let me look.
[01:15] <szrhawaii> k
[01:16] <Adola> Wait, can someone tell me where the list of repo's is?
[01:16] <gaelan> speaking of Amarok, has anyone else had a problem with amarok responding slowly to pause/stop/play/volume commands?
[01:16] <gaelan> i'll adjust the volume, but the sound continues at the same level for about 5 seconds
[01:17] <szrhawaii> maybe its your sound driver
[01:17] <Adola> Gaelan : No, but I can't get it to speak with Kopete.
[01:17] <Adola> They have a section on lagg and hangups in the FAQ of AmaroK's webpage
[01:17] <gaelan> thanks, i'll check there
[01:18] <Adola> Where is your repo list?
[01:18] <Adola> I mean, where is THE repo list?
[01:18] <szrhawaii> i guess no one knows
[01:18] <genii> Adola: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:18] <Adola> Thansk!
[01:19] <genii> Just because no one answers immediately doesn't mean you won't get an answer after a little while
[01:19] <Adola> I know.  But..Nevermind thanks.
[01:19] <[vedder]> Hi  all!
[01:20] <szrhawaii> has anyone tried this repo
[01:20] <szrhawaii> http://amarok.kde.org/de/node/485
[01:20] <Adola> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/kubuntu intrepid main
[01:20] <korn> genii: thanks, are all the daemons in init.d run at Ubuntu start-up (by default)?
[01:20] <Adola> But, yours would be your distro.
[01:21] <Adola> Just copy all that into sources and change intrepid
[01:21] <[vedder]> Iḿ a newbie on Linux and just got Kubuntu 8.10 up and running. But my X restarts sometimes. Anyone knows a way to sort out whatss causing this?
[01:21] <genii> korn: Yes
[01:22] <szrhawaii> well i found the hardy repo and that looks the same as your intrepid repo
[01:22] <szrhawaii> ok bye
[01:27] <tyfon> korn: look in /etc/rc2.d you can see all that stars in the default runlevel (2)
[01:28] <tyfon> all that are prefixed with an S and those with K will stop at that runlevel (0 is shutdown and 6 is reboot.. 1 is singleuser mode)
[01:29] <tyfon> /etc/rc0.d would be for runlevel 0 and /etc/rc1.d for level 1 etc
[01:29] <korn> genii and tyfon: thanks, what are the run-levels?
[01:30] <korn> as in, how many are there?
[01:30] <genii> korn: runlevels are the state of the machine. In ubuntu 2,3,4 and 5 are multi-user runlevels (identical)
[01:30] <tyfon> those 4 basically..
[01:30] <tyfon> and yes like genii sais
[01:30] <genii> korn: 6 plus 0 is 7 runlevels altogether
[01:30] <tyfon> ubuntu starts default in runlevel 2
[01:30] <genii> korn: 0 is halt, 1 is single-use and 6 is reboot
[01:31] <tyfon> to switch runlevel you can use telinit... typing sudo telinit 0 will halt your machine and sudo telinit 6 will reboot
[01:34] <korn> genii and tyfon: thanks, but would single-user mode (Level 1) throw out all other users logged on the machine
[01:34] <genii> korn: Yes
[01:34] <tyfon> yes and shut down all the daemons and X
[01:34] <tyfon> its for system maintnance
[01:36] <tyfon> if you add single to the kernel boot command line you will boot straight into single user mode.. nice if you messed up something and need to fix it :)
[01:36] <Kovert> is there a littel app i can use to tesat my mike?
[01:36] <Kovert> ok test my mike
[01:40] <prometheus77> ok
[01:47] <korn> genii and tyfon: thanks about the run-levels. What about testing the number of networking sockets being used. Is there an easy way to do that in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <korn> for example, the number of ports, for now, would be sufficient?
[01:48] <genii> korn: netstat has some useful options. Although I actually don't use it much enough to guide you in the usage
[01:51] <Firefishe> I'm currently testing the live cd version of Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.1, on an Asus G50V-X1 laptop (Intel T5750 CPU, Nvidia 9700M GT GPU.  Is there any specific reason to upgrade to the 64bit variety over the 32 bit variety?
[01:54] <genii> Firefishe: Some speed increase, recognition of large ram size.
[01:55] <genii> Firefishe: Many apps are natively 32 bit however so you'd have to run them by installing the 32 bit libraries into your 64 bit version anyhow
[01:58] <Firefishe> genii:
[01:58] <Firefishe> <fingernails, go figure> ;)
[01:58] <genii> Firefishe: Yes ?
[01:58] <Firefishe> genii:  I've got exactly 4GB of ram, and this is a laptop, not a server.
[01:59] <genii> Firefishe: With 32 bit you'll see about 3.2G of it.
[01:59] <Firefishe> genii:  that's it, eh?
[01:59] <Firefishe> is putting in a PAE kernel worth the trouble?
[02:00] <genii> Firefishe: Probably not since you have to mess with it every time theres a kernel update
[02:01] <genii> Firefishe: Suggest either to install 64bit with package ia32-libs to run the 32 bit apps, or else just stock 32bit system which runs everything usually out of box
[02:03] <Firefishe> genii:  I have the 32-bit cd, and so far, everything's working (have to test the ethernet port) and 4.1 looks great.  To install kde 3.5.x, I just load the kde-desktop, don't I?
[02:04] <genii> Firefishe: kde 3 is no longer supplied or supported after 8.04
[02:05] <genii> Firefishe: The package kubuntu-desktop in later versions than this just install kde4 versions
[02:07] <Firefishe> genii:  I'm already sold on 4.1.x now anyway.  It looks great, feels great, is a ton faster, and is nicely integrated.  Just one minor itch, personal to me:  Is there any way to make the <kde panel> transparent?  I need more contrast on the clock applete (widget, whatevah).
[02:07] <Firefishe> I'm still learning the new names.
[02:08] <genii> Firefishe: I'm still currently using kde3 as main desktop so don't know offhand
[02:10] <Firefishe> genii:  no probs.  I tried 4.0 out a while ago, and it was too buggy for me.  This is much nicer.
[02:10] <JontheEchidna> Firefishe: currently you have to use a theme that is more transparent. I believe slim-glow is installed by default
[02:10] <JontheEchidna> right-click desktop -> desktop settings
[02:10] <JontheEchidna> then at the bottom of the dialog there should be a widget theme selector
[02:15] <burn_> !k3b
[02:16] <burn_> how to remove updating RMA from k3b?
[02:19] <korn> genii: thanks, netstat contains useful information and pointers to other equally helpful commands
[02:20] <genii> korn: You're welcome
[02:25] <root> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:25] <Tm_T> root: are we rooted now?
[02:25] <Guest6024> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:25] <genii> !es | Guest6024
[02:25] <Guest6024> hola
[02:25] <Guest6024> si
[02:25] <Guest6024> oki
[02:26] <Guest6024> grasias
[02:26] <genii> Guest6024:   :)
[02:26] <Guest6024> jejejeje
[02:26] <Guest6024> te quiero genni grasias
[02:28] <SiVA_> hi
[02:29] <genii> !hi
[02:29] <Guest6024> hello
[02:29] <SiVA_> I installed the latest KUBUNTU with KDE 4.1. Problem is, the UI of firefox seems to be really screwed up
[02:29] <SiVA_> my tabs don't display correctly, and overall something isn't quite right with firefox. Anyone have similar problems?
[02:29] <Guest6024> good!!!!! bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:31] <dr_willis> Hmmm
[02:31] <dr_willis> You say hello.. we say goodbye...
[02:31] <dr_willis> :P
[02:32] <Adola> I love that song.
[02:33] <SiVA_> no it's "You say goodbye, and I say hello"
[02:33] <benbloom> I get a strange error when trying to enable zeroconf via kcontrol: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found" and it's true. there is no enable_avahi anywhere on my system. how do i enable avahi? my mt-daapd server is not working :'(
[02:33] <SiVA_> which doesn't work in this context ... :)
[02:36] <genii> benbloom: Do you find that libnss-mdns is installed?
[02:36] <jiang> #kubuntu cn
[02:36] <Adola> I still like the song.
[02:36] <mooglinux> since switching to kubuntu, i have noticed a decrease in audio quality
[02:36] <Adola> mooglinux: is your name a referance to FF?
[02:36] <genii> jiang: /j #ubuntu-cn
[02:36] <mooglinux> yup
[02:36] <Adola> ZOMG, I love FF.
[02:36] <jiang> thank you//
[02:37] <Adola> I just beat VIII for the 4th time a 3 weeks ago.
[02:37] <genii> jiang: 不必客气
[02:37] <benbloom> it was not genii. thing is it used to work!
[02:37] <Walzmyn> What does mooglinux have to do with Firefox?
[02:38] <Adola> Ntohign really!
[02:38] <mooglinux> does kubuntu use a different sound system then gnome?
[02:38] <Adola> No, ALSA.
[02:38] <mooglinux> both use alsa?
[02:38] <dios_mio> if you has 512 RAM, and a Celeron 1.7 Ghz, and a GeForce 2 video card with 64 mb ram .... would you get enough performance from KDE?
[02:38] <Adola> Yes.
[02:39] <Adola> Default.
[02:39] <genii> benbloom: Well, I found an old bug report which suggests this package has something to do with this error  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nss-mdns/+bug/78680
[02:39] <jiang> i can't hear something in my KUBUNRU .who can help me?
[02:43] <SiVA_> anyone experience strange visual problems with firefox after installing kubuntu/kde4.1?
[02:51] <Danu> Hello
[02:53] <dr_willis> hooo
[02:53] <Danu> please i need super help!
[02:53] <Tm_T> dr_willis: rah
[02:53] <Danu> Hello to all
[02:53] <dr_willis> State the Question.. See who can help
[02:53] <Danu> my english sucks so forgive me
[02:54] <Danu> better if you see pics
[02:54] <Danu> http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tyeui8.png
[02:54] <Danu> I just install Amarok 2
[02:54] <dr_willis> There are Kubuntu Specific channels in other languages also.
[02:54] <Danu> is so lonely
[02:55] <Danu> they're all sleeping
[02:55] <Danu> and: http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gotkv9.png
[02:55] <Danu> I just installed it (Amarok 2)
[02:55] <bipolar> Danu: Is ESD running?
[02:55] <Danu> and if i have question : statistics doesn't exist anymore?
[02:56] <Danu> Mr. bipolar =S
[02:56]  * dr_willis isent sure what Danu  it talking about.. YOu are saying some 'feature' in amarok is missing is the 'problem' ?
[02:56] <Danu> No
[02:56] <bipolar> Danu: talking about the message about the intel sound card working and falling back to ESD?
[02:56] <Danu> is just a question, the problem is in the pics
[02:57] <dr_willis> pics? You Mean the Album art?
[02:57] <Danu> i don't think that ESD is running
[02:57] <Danu> no , the pics in the links
[02:57] <Danu> imageshack
[02:57] <bipolar> dr_willis: the first pic shows an error with the sound card
[02:57] <Danu> the second is the worst
[02:57] <bipolar> Danu: if ESD is running, it may be interfering with Phonon... not sure.
[02:58] <dr_willis> You MAY want to spend the time to actually type up the questions then. Not everyone has WEB browsers to  look at  imageshacks :)
[02:58] <bipolar> Danu: not sure if Amarok 2 is ready for general use yet.
[02:58] <dr_willis> I gotta run to work. bye alll......
[02:58] <Danu> Bye
[02:58] <Danu> I install it because they told that this was the final version
[02:58] <Danu> Mr. bipolar
[02:58] <bipolar> Danu: also, you're running Gnome as your DE, so you may want to ask in #ubuntu
[02:59] <bipolar> Danu: you are correct. Amarok2 was just realeaseed
[02:59] <bipolar> ...just released
[02:59] <Danu> By the way i'm using Gnome because my KDE 4 got crazy
[03:00] <bipolar> Danu: try booting into kde and see if you get the same kind of error.
[03:00] <mooglinux> using kde 4.1, only complaint really is that the widgets raent the most responsive. does 4.2 have some performance tweaks?
[03:02] <Danu> Ok thanks,(since a week ago my KDE 4 turn off)
[03:02] <Danu> Bye
[03:02] <Danu> and Thanks
[03:03] <bipolar> 4.2? Thats not even in feature freeze yet.
[03:03]  * bipolar runs and hides in case Danu comes back
[03:03] <mooglinux> lol
[03:03] <mooglinux> i thought 4.2 was in beta?
[03:03]  * hidingfromdanu shudders
[03:04] <hidingfromdanu> yeah. beta1
[03:04] <SiVA_> I don't like the minimize/maximize buttons in my default setup. How do I change those?
[03:05] <bipolar> SiVA_: right click on the title bar...
[03:05] <bipolar> ...Configure window behavior
[03:06] <bipolar> ...click on the 'buttons' tab
[03:06] <bipolar> you can drag them where you want them
[03:07] <bipolar> Check the box "Use custom titlebar button positions" if it's not already.
[03:08] <SiVA_> after "configure window behaviour", then I click "Windows", then the
[03:08] <SiVA_> "Buttons" tab?
[03:09] <SiVA_> oh that's much better... hated that space... too many years of using MS
[03:09] <bipolar> SiVA_: you got it?
[03:10] <SiVA_> yea! thanks
[03:13] <Jared555> any ideas why firefox ?3.0.4" on kubuntu rendering looks like crap? some things are huge/others tiny, check boxes/radio buttons don't even show up somewhat correctly until I run the mouse over them
[03:22] <mooglinux> openoffice doesnt look the same as it did under gnome. is there a way to enable either qt or gtk so it looks prettier?
[03:22] <jiang> who can help me a small trouble?
[03:30] <bdizzle> hi, need some help with getting Kubuntu to recognize an external hard drive plugged in through USB
[03:31] <bdizzle> windows sees it and for a moment I had linux seeing it, then it suddenly decided to disappear and I haven't seen it since
[03:31] <bdizzle> anyone?
[03:34] <kaic> i'm having dificulties on installing java
[03:34] <jdawg> #manila
[03:39] <mooglinux> there a rough time frame for the release of kde 4.2?
[03:41] <cadoo> end of january
[03:41] <cadoo> mooglinux: End of january
[03:42] <mooglinux> not too far away. im pretty eager, since ive just come from gnome, and am rather impressed
[03:42]  * genii ponders what kind of job the kde devs do after New Year's Eve partying dies down
[03:42] <mooglinux> 4.0 wasnt really complete. 4.1 works quite well tho. lots of spit and polish
[03:43] <cadoo> i'm sort of running 4.2 it's nice
[03:44] <cadoo> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule
[03:44] <kaic> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/your_news/7593687.stm
[03:45] <keres_> how do i tell if i have certain dependencies? like gkt+, gtkglext, zlib, libpng, etc...
[03:47] <keres_> can anyone help me?
[03:47] <mooglinux> trying to install something?
[03:47] <keres_> does sudo apt-get install build-essential intstall all these dependencies from https://zerowing.idsoftware.com/svn/radiant/GtkRadiant/branches/1.5/COMPILING?
[03:47] <keres_> yeah
[03:47] <bdizzle> join #linux
[03:48] <bdizzle> meh, sorry about that
[03:49] <No1PeaceDragon> hello all, When I try to play some linux games my screen goes black with red error meaasage saying "Out Of Range"  I have to do a hard reboot to get functionality of puter back
[03:50] <seba_> !es
[03:50] <mooglinux> its trying to use a resolution not supported by your monitor
[03:50] <keres_> how do you install zlib, gtkglext, and libpng and such?
[03:50] <mooglinux> sudo apt-get install zlib gtkglext libpng etc.
[03:50] <No1PeaceDragon> ok is new widescreen monitor there a simple fix or just delete the games that are not supported
[03:50] <No1PeaceDragon> ?
[03:51] <cadoo> keres_: it might be easier through adept or synaptics
[03:52] <mooglinux> edit your xorg.conf file to add the resoltions your monitor does support. its kindof a pain, be forewarned. alternatly, if you ahve an nvidia or ati card, those drivers ushually include a utility to edit the xorg.conf
[03:52] <No1PeaceDragon> mooglinux  ok thanks got Nvidia
[03:53] <cadoo> keres_:  look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188250
[03:55] <cadoo> keres_:  or here http://alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3093
[03:55] <bdizzle> I take it when I am copying large numbers of files and suc, I should probably do it one set at a time?
[03:56] <cwiedel> ne virtual box peps in here?
[03:59] <cwiedel> I have a networking problem. I am using kubuntu with virtualbox. How do I make it some my virtual machines are on the same network as my actual network?
[04:00] <keres_> cadoo: thanks!!!
[04:00] <keres_> i visit nexuiz forums alot, idk why i didn't see that
[04:03] <da_> can I download Amarok to Ubumtu 8.04?
[04:03] <mooglinux> yup
[04:03] <da_> okay, thanks...
[04:04] <keres_> i have both gnome and kde installed
[04:04] <keres_> kinda cool, i get kde apps in gnome and vise versa
[04:04] <keres_> i'm using konversation in gnome atm
[04:05] <da_> well, I just bought a MP3 player that only works with windows. working on it all dat to no avail...
[04:06] <keres_> da_: what brand?
[04:06] <da_> Spi
[04:06] <keres_> never heard of it :S
[04:07] <mooglinux> the best way to work with mp3 players is if they have a 'mass storage' option. then it just shows up like a normal flash drive, and you can drag and drop your music
[04:07] <da_> me either, comes from my wifes ULTA store..
[04:07] <keres_> how do you know where a .deb installed to?
[04:08] <keres_> ARG
[04:08] <keres_> i'm missing GTK+ dependency
[04:10] <genii> keres_: dpkg -L <packagename>
[04:10] <keres_> genii: so "sudo dpkg -L gtk+
[04:10] <keres_> ?
[04:11] <stdin> what are you trying to install?
[04:11] <genii> keres_: I think that will expand out and cover a lot of packages
[04:11] <keres_> stdin: i have installed gtkradiant, but it needs gtk+
[04:11] <keres_> genii: so will that work?
[04:12] <stdin> keres_: don't you have jockey installed?
[04:12] <keres_> stdin: no? wahts jockey?
[04:12] <keres_> Package `gtk+' is not installed.
[04:12] <stdin> jockey-kde will help you install .deb packages by fetching it'd dependencies from the apt repositories
[04:12] <stdin> *it's
[04:13] <genii> !info gtk+
[04:13] <genii> keres_: No, that won't work
[04:13] <stdin> it should be installed in gutsy+ iirc
[04:13] <bdizzle> da_ those should work. MP3's are essentially flash drives
[04:13] <shad0w0fsin> does anyone know how to bypass kdm and autologin to a user and then immediately lock the screen?
[04:14] <keres_> when i start up radiant, i get a saying:
[04:14] <keres_> runtime error: GTK+ error: Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting and adjustment with a non-zero page size is deprecated
[04:14] <keres_> radiant/main.cpp:186
[04:14] <stdin> then that's a problem with the package, it's too old
[04:15] <keres_> the .deb i installed?
[04:15] <stdin> the actual application, not the .deb
[04:15] <stdin> the code is too old
[04:15] <keres_> it's gtkradiant 1.5
[04:15] <keres_> :S
[04:15] <keres_> not too old
[04:16] <stdin> well it's using deprecated GTK features and it's causing it to abort, so it is
[04:16] <keres_> can it be fixed?
[04:16] <keres_> or a workaround?
[04:16] <stdin> only by using an older version of GTK+ or rewriting the application
[04:16] <keres_> stdin: i got it from here: http://alientrap.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3093
[04:17] <keres_> stdin: i have 8.10, if i run an old GTK+ will it mess things up?
[04:17] <stdin> yes
[04:17] <keres_> :S
[04:17] <stdin> that package is for Gutsy/Hardy apparently
[04:18] <_2> what's this k3b error, medium or device does not suport write speed 8x switching to 16x  ???
[04:18] <stdin> keres_: try posing the error to that forum and asking for advice
[04:19] <genii> _2: Does it actually write anything at 16x ?
[04:20] <_2> genii yes,   but that's not the point, i was trying to gain a safty margen and the program goes "oh, that !*^# doesn't know what's best for him, i'll set it to max speed"    ;/
[04:21] <_2> did microsoft write k3b by any chance ?
[04:21] <genii> _2: Possibly your disks don't like slower than 16
[04:21] <_2> a cdr that can't be burned at 1x ?
[04:22] <genii> _2: I have some like that, won't go less than 4x for instance
[04:23] <_2> hmmm,   still seems that the app should have errored out, and let me choose whether or not i wanted a faster speed or not,   this automatic change of settings crap is way to M$'ish for me.
[04:24]  * _2 <- control freek extreemest zealott
[04:25] <_2> i'm like if i could tolerate that kind of behaviour i would still be using windows
[04:25] <genii> _2: I empathise
[04:26] <_2> k.   nuogh said, i'll leave it at that.
[04:26] <avishek> !ubottu
[04:27] <haggus99> can someone help me with 64 bit flash problem please?
[04:27] <haggus99> adobe flashplayer
[04:28] <mooglinux> trouble installing?
[04:28] <haggus99> I keep getting sigsegv 11 on any page with flash
[04:29] <haggus99> I downloaded the file extracted the .so to the plugins folder went to konqueror settings and scan new plugins
[04:29] <avishek> !aptoncd
[04:29] <haggus99> still every page with flash errors in konqueror and crashes completely in ff
[04:29] <asobi> what's an easy image editor?
[04:30] <asobi> crop/resize
[04:30] <mooglinux> gimp
[04:30] <_2> kolour paint
[04:30] <asobi> those installed by default?
[04:31] <mooglinux> ushually
[04:31] <asobi> where might i find them
[04:32] <_2> asobi umm i dont think kolourpaint is.   but both are in the repos
[04:32] <_2> !info kolourpaint
[04:32] <_2> !info gimp
[04:32] <asobi> which do i want?
[04:33] <mooglinux> gimp has the most features, and is reasonably easy to use
[04:33] <mooglinux> never used kolorpaint
[04:33] <_2> both so you  never have to ask that question again
[04:33] <asobi> haha
[04:33] <asobi> i will need to use it once a year
[04:33] <asobi> thanks
[04:34] <_2> seriously,  test them both for yourself and then you will know what you like to use for *
[04:34] <_2> or is that  .*
[04:35] <_2> if all i was going to do was a clip and resize i would use the smaller lighter faster kolourpaint   if i was going to do heavy editing i would use the heaver app
[04:38] <_2> use the saw to cut the board into, drive the nail with the hammer.    don't beet the board into with the hammer or try to drive the nail with the saw.
[04:38] <mooglinux> *nods*
[04:47] <mooglinux> is there a waty to change the clock to 12 hours, instead of 24?
[04:49] <_2> in kde3 right click the clock and configure   it's a 'language and ...' setting.   not sure how to get there the easiest in kde4
[04:49] <_2> but kcontrol  can get you there in either version
[04:50] <_2> !lag
[04:51] <_2> my lag meter is hung at 10 seconds
[04:55] <dwidmann> come to speak of lag ... mine's at 30s
[04:56] <_2> round trip ping time ?
[04:57] <_2> -:- CTCP PING reply from _2: 0.707 seconds
[05:00] <elaterite> Does anyone know the new link for sourceforge ndiswrapper tested drivers?
[05:08] <eklypze_> hey guys, anyone using 8.10 know how to set the default konsole size upon opening it?
[05:09] <dwidmann> eklypze_: right click the windows title bar, go to window specific settings or similar and you can set it ther
[05:09] <dwidmann> e
[05:10] <eklypze_> oh, very nice. thanks a lot =)
[05:16] <Jared555> any guide on getting firefox working properly on kubuntu 8.10? (rendering pages and the actual interface badly)
[05:17] <_2> gtkqt something something
[05:17] <_2> gtk2-engines-qtpixmap - QtPixmap GTK2.x theming engine
[05:17] <_2> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x
[05:17] <_2> see if that helps ?
[05:19] <Jared555> k. thanks
[05:26] <eklypze_> anyone using gmail on kubuntu 8.10? i notice that things like the radio buttons are always too big and half of it is cutoff.
[05:26] <eklypze_> it seems to happen on all themes, is there a correction to make it good look like windows?
[05:34] <_2> what's a "radio button" anyway ?
[05:34] <Clyde> Maybe use Firefox instead of Konqueror or vice-versa?
[05:35] <Clyde> Oh, he left.
[05:35] <shad0w0fsin> Hi everyone, how do I install .skz widgets in KDE4? When I go to install widget --> plasmoid, I can't see the .skz file
[05:44] <da_> Just installed Kubuntu 7.04with amarok 1.2, do I need to downloadamarok 2.0 Now?
[05:45] <_2> 7.4 is eol i think
[05:46] <Pici> Indeed.
[05:46] <Pici> 7.04 reached its End Of Life in April.
[05:47] <_2> Pici only one year ?   i was thinking the standard was 1.5 year support       </con fuzz>
[05:47] <Pici> _2: 18 months for a non LTS release.
[05:47] <Pici> er, not April, sorry.
[05:47] <Pici> October.
[05:47] <_2> Pici then it should have went ...  right.
[05:47] <Pici> Long day ;)
[05:47] <_2> :)
[05:48] <hantz_> kiero sexo
[05:49] <_2> well it looks like the disks all burned successfullyyyy   so i'm went now.
[05:51] <da_> okay, I'll see if I can get the newer KUbuntu
[05:53] <da_> Thank you folks...
[06:05] <tacidsky> I just installed 8.10 and wondering if theres any good and easy to install docks ?
[06:21] <Firefishe> Hello :)
[06:22] <Firefishe> I've currently installed kubuntu 8.10, kde 4.1, and I need to know what file to delete to allow for a complete default kde desktop, like after just installing it.
[06:22] <eagles0513875> Firefishe
[06:22] <Firefishe> eagles0513875:
[06:22] <eagles0513875> firfish do sudo apt-get purge kde* that will remove all the kde and its programs
[06:23] <Firefishe> eagles0513875: no, I don't mean that.
[06:23] <eagles0513875> to get a clean kde with nothing install install kde-core
[06:23] <eagles0513875> then u can install what programs you want
[06:23] <eagles0513875> reread ur question and to be honest im not sure i went for the super stripped down install what u want kde
[06:24] <Firefishe> eagles0513875: I have kubuntu 8.10 installed already.  My panel is toast at this point, the nvidia proprietary driver is lagging something awful, and I want to strip my desktop, and just have the default beginning desktop.
[06:25] <DeadTreeHugger> hi, would like to know whether network-manager-kde knetworkmanager in intrepid are actually 2 distinct / different GUI applets for manager NetworkManager
[06:25] <DeadTreeHugger> when i do apt-cache search, I can see knetworkmanager in the list of avail packages
[06:26] <DeadTreeHugger> but dpkg -l | grep knetworkmanager yields nothing
[06:27] <DeadTreeHugger> but the knetworkmanager binary is in my path, so am I to assume that knetworkmanager was actually installed as part of network-manager-kde?
[06:45] <Illusioneer> hey i have a question, before i lose my mind, is there some kind of general KDE log so i can find out what the #*&$ is causing these constant system crashes?
[07:07] <dwidmann> Wow ... that was a very weird, nasty crash.
[07:09] <anr78_> when I try to start a vpnc connection I get the error "/etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink". it worked well earlier, and I've done no changes to my setup...
[07:14] <willrjmarshall> I have two monitors attached to one nVidia 8600GS video card
[07:15] <willrjmarshall> Can I set up dual monitors, and if so: how?
[07:21] <szrhawaii> anyone here know anything about knetwork or access points
[07:24] <szrhawaii> my comp is acting as the access point rather than actually connecting to the access point so my computer is shutting down the access point does anyone know how to configure
[07:25] <selab> hi
[07:25] <szrhawaii> !access point
[07:25] <szrhawaii> !wifi
[07:25] <selab> hi
[07:25] <selab> hi~
[07:26] <selab> hi~
[07:26] <szrhawaii> hello
[07:26] <selab> 안녕친구들아
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: so your kubuntu box is running as a router?
[07:27] <szrhawaii> yeah and its knocking out the access point
[07:27] <szrhawaii> which i want to use not shut down
[07:27] <selab> #korea
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> access point? so the Kubuntu box is attatched to a wifi router or a wired router and making it not work?
[07:28] <szrhawaii> heres the set up
[07:29] <szrhawaii> my laptop is trying to access the access point but when it does the access point shuts down and the laptop ends up taking it over but doesnt give me service to the router so there is a conflict i am trying to solve there
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: ah so you have 2 lots of wireless connectivity?
[07:30] <szrhawaii> yeah
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: are they using the same channel?
[07:30] <szrhawaii> its a secured access point ran by a secured router
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: if they are both using the same channel it aint gonna fly
[07:31] <szrhawaii> yeah everything is set up on that end cause everyone elses comp gets on but mine
[07:31] <szrhawaii> how do i configure mine to work properly
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: you could try manually editting /etc/networ/interfaces to make it use the settings you want rather than an application
[07:33] <szrhawaii> let me see
[07:33] <potwak> is there a free training certification for ubuntu?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: you could do it just to test, if you rename the file and reboot you can reset it up with apps, if you manually populate that file, no applications will be able to setup the networking on that pc
[07:34] <szrhawaii> ok
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> potwak: i dont know of any free certs personally, You could do your LPA which will transfer between all Linux systems
[07:35] <szrhawaii> hey do you recommend a better program than kwifi and knetwork
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: no idea man, i always use that file (im old school)
[07:37] <potwak> ActionParsnip: what is LPA?
[07:37] <szrhawaii> ok i have all the regular stuff how do i get the 802.11 stuff on there
[07:38] <szrhawaii> is there a plug in or something
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> potwak: sorry, its LPI
[07:38] <szrhawaii> or a lib file i can get
[07:39] <szrhawaii> !wireless
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> potwak: http://www.lpi.org/
[07:39] <potwak> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[07:39] <potwak> :)
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> szrhawaii: yeah read that guide
[07:40] <szrhawaii> im looking at it right now
[07:41] <szrhawaii> thanks for your help though
[07:41] <potwak> ActionParsnip: UCP is very expensive, I can't afford to pay $250 for its certificate. :)
[07:42] <potwak> ActionParsnip: do you have an idea of how much is the payment on LPI?
[08:20] <szrhawaii> where do i go to find my source list again
[08:20] <POKE53281> slight problem, I used to have two independent panels (one on each screen, dual view setup) - if I dragged a window from one screen to the other, it'd move from one panel to the other. I disabled a panel a while ago, now when I re-add it, no tasks appear!
[08:20] <POKE53281> any ideas?
[08:21] <POKE53281> I can add buttons and applets, but it doesnt function as a taskbar
[08:21] <POKE53281> (adding an external taskbar works, but I cant add applets or buttons to it heh)
[08:21] <szrhawaii> where do i find my source list file at
[08:26] <szrhawaii> source.lst where is it at
[08:27] <POKE53281> sources.list?
[08:27] <POKE53281>  /etc/apt/
[08:27] <POKE53281> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <POKE53281> fixed the problem, had to add a taskbar applet to the additional panel :\
[08:28] <POKE53281> *doh*
[08:28] <szrhawaii> oh i already found it
[08:28] <szrhawaii> thatnks though
[08:28] <POKE53281> sorry heh, had no idea what you meant by sources, thought maybe you meant linux headers/etc
[08:28] <POKE53281> np
[08:29] <szrhawaii> nah i accidentally put a wrong file in the wrong place and my apt wasnt working
[08:29] <szrhawaii> but got it down
[08:29] <szrhawaii> hey do you know where this would go git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mcgrof/compat-wireless-2.6.git
[08:30] <POKE53281> absolutely no idea l\
[08:30] <POKE53281> ;\ even
[08:30] <POKE53281> channel aint much help anymore it seems :P
[08:38] <willrjmarshall> Hi. I have a problem in which my application windows overlap the panel at the bottom of my screen
[08:38] <willrjmarshall> How might I prevent this?
[08:38] <sigma20> whats the konsole command to logout and shutdown kde4 properly?
[08:53] <willrjmarshall> Anyone?
[09:00] <bitmous1> ﻿anybody know where swiftfox keeps it's bookmarks etc for each user?
[09:02] <Andrew``> can anyone tell me how/where to find kaudiocreator ? I have just installed kubuntu for the very first time.
[09:02] <Andrew``> adept wont finid it
[09:02] <Andrew``> find
[09:03] <Andrew``> does kubuntu have repositories like suse does?
[09:16] <willrjmarshall> Andrew``: Yes
[09:16] <willrjmarshall> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:16] <willrjmarshall> Uncomment the commented out ones
[09:16] <willrjmarshall> T
[09:16] <willrjmarshall> Try again
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:21] <Andrew``> ok I uncommented them.. adept still didnt find it...
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: did you sudo apt-get update?
[09:23] <Andrew``> no
[09:23] <Andrew``> sorry.. as Isaid am new to this linux
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: you'll learn
[09:24] <Andrew``> ok also did that.. stil nothing
[09:24] <Andrew``> :(
[09:25] <Andrew``> I thought it was supposed to be included with KDE anyway
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> can you apt-cache search it?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> what app is it?
[09:25] <Andrew``> I dont know how to
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: apt-cache search <app name>
[09:26] <Andrew``> andrew@Home:~$ apt-cache search kaudiocreator
[09:26] <Andrew``> andrew@Home:~$
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> then its not that, try
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install kau then press tab on the end to tab complete the package name
[09:28] <Andrew``> Display all 34047 possibilities? (y or n)
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: http://paste.ubuntu.com/83901/
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: thats all the packages with the word audio in their name or description AND with creat in them too
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: if you wanna make an audio cd, k3b will do it
[09:32] <Andrew``> All I need is to be able to rip CD's into mp3s
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: k3b does that too
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[09:36] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip, I notice that its supposed to be in the menu list in Kubuntu, but its NOT in mine
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: what isnt in menu.lst?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> oh menu list
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> haha
[09:37] <Andrew``> Kaudiocreator
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> try running it from command line
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> i dont have it myself
[09:38] <Andrew``> andrew@Home:~$ kaudiocreator
[09:38] <Andrew``> bash: kaudiocreator: command not found
[09:38] <Andrew``> andrew@Home:~$
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> i dont have it either, you could go find a deb for it and install it, or compile source, looks like its not in standard repos
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia/+question/49360
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: if so i believe this will work: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/amd64/kaudiocreator/4:3.5.9-0ubuntu2
[09:48] <Andrew``> yes sorry am using 64bit
[09:49] <Andrew``> I downloaded the file.. what do I do now?
[09:50] <noaXess> hi all
[09:50] <noaXess> how can i insert a printer PPD file into my system? if i work over system-config-printer-kde i can't select a PPD file from disk..
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Andrew``: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[09:50] <noaXess> or is there another printig config tool?
[09:50] <noaXess> hey ActionParsnip was up?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: nm man, you tried cups for your ppd file/
[09:51] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: öhm.. standard kde4 printing
[09:52] <noaXess> i think its cups
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> noaXess: http://localhost:631
[09:53] <Guest3360> Word lol
[09:53] <Guest3360> Im ver new to this
[09:53] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: cups yes
[09:53] <Guest3360> any advise
[09:53] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip,  sorry but errors qwere encountered... how do I see these errors?
[09:53] <Andrew``> -q
[09:54] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: aha.. nice.. thanks
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> noaXess: http://smemirror.fullnet.co.uk/contribs/rvandenaker/beta/e-smith-cups/documentation/howtos/foomatic-ppds.html
[09:58] <noaXess> ActionParsnipit works.. thanks.. now i can insert the needed PPD for my big printing system ;)
[09:58] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip,  sorry but errors were encountered... how do I see these errors?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> noaXess: sweet nice one bro
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: when you do what?
[10:00] <Andrew``> sudo dpkg
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: can you pastebin the command and the whole error please
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | Andrew``
[10:02] <Andrew``> http://paste.ubuntu.com/83908/
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: you have an unmet dependancy: libkcddb1
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: sudo apt-get install libkcddb1
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: if its not in repos, you need to find a deb of that too
[10:07] <Andrew``> ok its not available
[10:07] <Andrew``> google it?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> whatever search engine you like
[10:12] <SlimG> Now I've got the problem I had before in KDE3, when clicking http:// links in either kmail or kopete seems to completely hang the app for 10-20 seconds before konqueror finally pops up, and the app resumes normality
[10:12] <SlimG> What gibs?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> SlimG: is it ok if you use a different browser in your settings?
[10:27] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip1, could it be on the CD I downloaded? if so, how would I find it?
[10:27] <ubuntu_> join #sitapead
[10:27] <ubuntu_> &join #sitapead
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: I doubt it
[10:40] <cuznt> [05:30] *** Guest60032 is now known as MIKE20INCHDICK.  ****NOT a very appropo nick for a family orientated chat
[10:46] <Tm_T> cuznt: use ops call, thanks (:)
[10:50] <jm> hi
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> hi jim
[10:52] <ivan360> ce nessuno?
[10:52] <juanantonio> Hello. How can I get a Screensaver with Matrix motif for KDE?
[10:53] <juanantonio> Hello, Ivan
[10:53] <ivan360> kde have a default matrix scrensaver
[10:53] <ivan360> im' italian
[10:53] <juanantonio> Matrix 3.5? No, I cannot find it
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> ikonia: you around man?
[10:53] <ivan360> kde3.5
[10:54] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip1, should I just install the source package from this site ------> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/amd64/libkcddb1/4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1~hardy1
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> juanantonio: sudo apt-get install xscreensaver-gl  xscreensaver-gl -extra
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> juanantonio: one of those will moan, just remove the bad one from the command
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: you sure can
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: you'll need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:55] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip1, so that will install ALL of what I need? And, is this part of KDE 4 and NOT 3.5?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: i'd suggest creating a deb from the compiled source too
[10:55] <juanantonio> Ok, action. Off we go
[10:55] <juanantonio> Ivan, I'm spanish
[10:55] <ivan360> heheheeh
[10:55] <ivan360> barcellona?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: it will satisfy that dependany. i dont know if it needs anything else, from your error it implys only that was at fault
[10:56] <juanantonio> No, Madrid
[10:56] <faileas> !it | ivan360
[10:56] <faileas> looking for that?
[10:56] <ivan360> grazieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:56] <jm> Please, i wonder if it is possible to hide the taskbar in ubuntu latest version?
[10:56] <jm> kubuntu sorry
[10:56] <Andrew``> ActionParsnip1,  well when I installed that... I got another error...  ----> kaudiocreator depends on kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu2); however:
[10:57] <Bou> jm: you mean, auto-hide ?
[10:57] <juanantonio> Action, my console tells me -extra command does not exist
[10:57] <jm> exatcly
[10:58] <jm> Bou: exactly
[10:58] <jm> we can do that one mandiva one 2009 :(
[10:59] <Tm_T> jm: in newest KDE4 you can
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> juanantonio: then remove that one from the command
[10:59] <Bou> in current default Kubuntu version you can not
[10:59] <Bou> jm: only trunk version contains this feature
[10:59] <ActionParsnip1> Tm_T: do you know how to kick your own account off irc if you accidentally log on twice?
[11:01] <Andrew``> ACt ok.. now that you have said that ...... creating deb... I dont know hwo to do that.. so it might be over my head
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: theres guides all over
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: k3b can rip cds to mp3 though and konqueror has plugins for it
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: you could even install grip
[11:01] <jm> Bou: thanks, how can i upgrade ? is it stable upgrade ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: but you'd install a tonne of gnome rubbish too
[11:02] <Bou> jm: trunk = dev so it's unstable by definitition I guess
[11:02] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: if you are registered /msg nickserv ghost username password
[11:02] <Bou> jm: should be release with KDE 4.2 in February
[11:02] <jm> Bou: thanks for the asnwer
[11:02] <Bou> jm: You're welcome
[11:03] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: ty man
[11:08] <Andrew``> ok you will not believe me Kaudio creator is installed..
[11:09] <Andrew``> dont know how but it is
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: then run it
[11:10] <ActionParsnip1> if it works, dont knock it
[11:10] <Andrew``> I ran it.. tried to rip one track of a CD.... got this error... -----> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:
[11:11] <ActionParsnip1> well you got me there, have a websearchdude. I gotta check some citrix WIs
[11:11] <Andrew``> + this ----->klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'audiocd'.
[11:11] <Andrew``> ok
[11:11] <Andrew``> thanks for your help anyway ActionParsnip1
[11:20] <winterelf> hi, just wanted to know what is the command i need if i wanna see what wireless driver i m using
[11:21] <niklauz> hey when is the next LTS release?
[11:24] <faileas> winterelf: lshw i think
[11:31] <hardyrr> hi
[11:31] <hardyrr> does anyone know a simple way in kubuntu intrepid to share files? even if it's just between other linux
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: samba
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: it also alows share to windows clients
[11:32] <Matrix22> i dont lisent steam mms in amarok, only in totem
[11:32] <hardyrr> don't tell me to edit files and read the man...
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:33] <hardyrr> i did that, but kde3 had a gui that made it simple, can't find it in kde4
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you can sare with right click if you want, or manually edit smb.conf
[11:33] <hardyrr> no gui comes up with the right click though
[11:33] <Matrix22> working amarok with mms radios?
[11:34] <hardyrr> I click in the sharing tab, and configure share. nothing comes up
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: /etc/samba/smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/f3745188c
[11:34] <hardyrr> Matrix22: try installing kubuntu-restricted codecs
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: just scroll to the bottom and read
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: thats how simple it is
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: the name in the brackets is the share name, the rest is self explanatory
[11:35] <Matrix22> apt-get install kubuntu-restricted codecs??
[11:35] <hardyrr> something like that yes, let me see if I have the command here
[11:36] <hardyrr> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:36] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help, i'll look into it then...
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: once you have a file nice an setup you will need to restart samba
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: to load the new file
[11:37] <hardyrr> but I kinda knew that already, I hate using the command line for things that should be quite simple using a GUI. now the other pcs need to do mount -t samba or something...
[11:37] <faileas> naw, KDE autodetects samba shares
[11:37] <hardyrr> or maybe not
[11:37] <faileas> its somewhere in network shares
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: im a command line kid, what can i say. If yu can use cli more, you can administer your system via ssh remotely :)
[11:38] <sigma20> where is the 4.1 rss plasmoid?
[11:38] <amerigo> !windows
[11:38] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: I understand the advantages of the cli, but sometimes it just takes more time typing that clicking
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> sometimes
[11:38] <amerigo> Ciao Action
[11:39] <hardyrr> like uploading files to a server through ssh
[11:39] <hardyrr> what do you think is easier? using ssh and typing each file you want to send, or go to dolphin using fish:// ?
[11:39] <faileas> ActionParsnip: well you can do x forwarding over ssh ;p
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> faileas: too much bandwidth wasted for what can be as simple as adding a samba share
[11:40] <faileas> hardyrr: dolphin 's sidebar has a network shares option, which lets you access samba shares elswhere
[11:40] <faileas> ActionParsnip: ssh isn't just about cli
[11:40] <hardyrr> faileas: my problem is not accessing, i want to share :S
[11:40] <faileas> its a bit of a swiss army knife, IMO
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> faileas: i realise but if you can do something at cli it uses less bandwidth than gui
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> faileas: oh absolutely
[11:41] <faileas> he does have a point there
[11:41] <faileas> the rightclick configure shares thing dosen't work on a folder, and they dumped simple file server
[11:42] <hardyrr> i'm gonna go samba pro just to share a simple folder.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> its hardly pro, a child can understand the file
[11:44] <hardyrr> oh rly
[11:44] <hardyrr> what's the difference between browseable and read-only?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: read the one i sent you, isnt it hugely readable
[11:44] <winterelf> hi, just wanted to know what is the command i need if i wanna see what wireless driver i m using
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> browsable means you can go into subdirectorys
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> readable means you have only read access to files (no write)
[11:45] <hardyrr> ok, so far so good, but what is a guest?
[11:45] <hardyrr> a guy who isn't registered in the machine that is sharing?
[11:46] <hardyrr> so, if a guest can read, it's open to anyone in the network?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: yeah pretty much
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: from what i understand
[11:46] <hardyrr> cool, gonna see what happens
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: i always log in with an account so its pretty defunct for me, its just a security thing really
[11:48] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: another thing, what with the ';' in some lines?
[11:48] <hardyrr> aren't comments started with '#' ?
[11:49] <hardyrr> sorry for the barrage of questions, but you'll save me time lol
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: looks like a comment
[11:49] <hardyrr> ah, so two ways of making comments, that's so great and handy. oh the freedom of choice :)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: as the other ones that are applied dont have it but you are right about #
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: the only bits you really need are your shares and the systems WORKGROUP name
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: which can be set to match your own
[11:51] <hardyrr> yeah, but my smb.conf already had the homes share "set up" but with the ';' thingy
[11:51] <hardyrr> and sharing the home seems like an easy way to do what i want
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> then thats fine
[11:54] <gaelan> i've been trying to force pulseaudio to work with kubuntu 8.10 but i just read somewhere that it doesn't even need or use pulseaudio by default... i feel stupid, does it just use alsa? esound?
[11:54] <gaelan> i'm still trying to understand all this, if someone can direct me to a page that could explain it...
[11:54] <hardyrr> gaelan: i'm pretty sure it's just alsa
[11:54] <hardyrr> for example my virtualbox complains that pulseaudio doesn't respond
[11:55] <hardyrr> so I switched to alsa and doesn't complain anymore :/ , that's about what i know
[11:55] <gaelan> yeah, i'm getting an error that pulseaudio won't respond
[11:55] <gaelan> great, i'll try to clean all the junk off i've just installed
[11:55] <gaelan> thanks!
[11:55] <hardyrr> pulseaudio is the other thing I don't really understand the advantage over alsa for most users
[11:55] <hardyrr> maybe for devs it's easier
[11:56] <dustrial> IF i need pulse audio i use it like this "pulseaudio --high-priority=1 -D" and after i used it i KILL it, because it suxx hard! killall pulse[TAB]
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: me neither, alsa work beautifuly
[11:56] <gaelan> ohhh that's good to know, i've been fighting pulseaudio for days thinking i had to make it work
[11:57] <gaelan> whoops
[11:57] <dustrial> gaelan:  for me i need pulse for skype to run
[11:57] <dustrial> and i can use my microphone in wine apps with it
[11:57] <basy> hi, i have nvidia but always after reboot kubuntu starts in 640x480 mode... then i have to run as root nvidia-settings and set 1920x1200...
[11:57] <dustrial> (skype doesnt use wine here)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> basy: you could add the modeline in xorg.conf
[11:58] <gaelan> dustrial: i'll keep that in mind since i will need skype, for now i just want the general sound to work
[11:59] <basy> when i edit manualy  xorg.conf it will be always replaced during reboot
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> basy: are you editing it with kdesudo / sudo ?
[11:59] <dustrial> =) yes yes good luck =)
[11:59] <basy> jes
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> basy: if you run nvidia settings after you edit xorg.conf it will nullify settings in xorg.conf you manually typed
[12:00] <basy> i delete as root xorg.conf and copy there my version
[12:00] <basy> but during reboot it is replaced
[12:00] <dustrial> basy there are many issues regarding the nvidea-settings ... i think googleing reveals most of the best results!
[12:01] <basy> and after reboot there is always default xorg.conf fine :(
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> basy: can you use nvidia-settings at command line and make a small script to set the resolution?
[12:01] <basy> file
[12:02] <basy> ActionParsnip: is tehere aby tutoroal for that?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> basy: man nvidia-settings
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> basy: im unsure if it can be used that way
[12:04] <val_> helpp fatal error with my adept manager?
[12:04] <val_> how can i fix it
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> val_: try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[12:06] <dustrial> nvidia-xconfig
[12:07] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: val's problem yesterday was about the lock, maybe it still is
[12:07] <hardyrr> it also happened to me, when the lock was on, adept asked to try and solved, it tried and then crashed instantly
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: its a malformed line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:08] <hardyrr> fatal error over a malformed line is not the best kind of programming, maybe a warning...
[12:09] <sixty8k> Anybody playing with KDE 4.2 beta 1 that has got akonadiserver to actually start?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> !paste . val_
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> !paste | val_
[12:10] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: i'm having problems with samba, I set the shares very similar to the pastebin you gave me, but the other pc (virtual machine) can access and browse, read and stuff, but can't write to the folder
[12:11] <hardyrr> even though writable = yes
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: did you run smbpasswd <user name>
[12:12] <hardyrr> nah, the virtual machine used konqueror 3 and I just did smb://ip
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you'll need sudo for that
[12:12] <hardyrr> it worked in windows :/
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you do it on the samba server
[12:12] <hardyrr> oh
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: sudo smbpasswd <some user name>
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: make sure that password is in the valid users section of the share
[12:14] <hardyrr> but i want to make that accessible to anyone..
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you will be challenged for a password when you connect which you can store on the clients you wis to have access
[12:14] <hardyrr> i'll look to the secutiry later
[12:14] <hardyrr> *security
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: ive not dont it with free access like that, too flakey for my taste. have an ask round or websearch
[12:15] <hardyrr> still says access denied...
[12:15] <hardyrr> but just when i want to write something
[12:15] <hardyrr> i did the valid users thingy, and the password too, i was asked for it on the other end
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> maybe theres a line further up that grants guest write access
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> if you were asked for a password then you are connected to samba as that user which will then have the access you granted. Did you use the same username as the one you log onto ubuntu with?
[12:17] <hardyrr> i created the same username i'm using in the server
[12:17] <hardyrr> with the smbpasswd
[12:18] <hardyrr> see how this is not simple?
[12:18] <hardyrr> :(
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> and the same password too?
[12:19] <hardyrr> no, i used a different one for samba
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: try re-passwding and make it the same, just to test
[12:20] <hardyrr> ok
[12:22] <hardyrr> it's working
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> cool, maybe you need the same auth of user / pass to get write privs
[12:23] <hardyrr> also, this is patheticly slow
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: oh theres a thing for that, gimme a sec
[12:24] <doc___> hi there
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: find something similar or add the line: name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: and also find similar or add: socket options = SO_KEEPALIVE
[12:26] <bibstha> anyone got mediadevices support in amarok2?
[12:27] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: trying that now...
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you need to restart the samba service each time you edit the file
[12:28] <hardyrr> i do
[12:28] <bibstha> amarok2 and mediadevices anyone?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: just a friendly remonder :D
[12:28] <hardyrr> bibstha: when they released amarok, they said that some devices wouldn't be supported
[12:29] <hardyrr> don't know if any is...
[12:29] <bibstha> hardyrr: well the mediadevices tab is completely missing
[12:29] <hardyrr> maybe it will only show up with the right libraries installed, like libpod or something
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: any faster?
[12:30] <bibstha> hardyrr: humm weird
[12:30] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: a little faster yeah
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[12:30] <hardyrr> but it copies 10 files per seconds, each one a few KB
[12:31] <hardyrr> more than 30 secs to copy 400 files totalling 2 MB :S
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: mine copys fine, see what i have in mine that you don't
[12:32] <hardyrr> you have socket options = TCP_NODELAY :S
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> try that then
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> thatd make sense, no delay is better than some delay
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: i pulled it off a forum
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> !paste > val_
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: better?
[12:34] <hardyrr> i'm just gonna blame konqueror 3 from opensuse 10.2 at this point, although it didn't seem slow when the same was done in windows
[12:35] <hardyrr> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway
[12:35] <hardyrr> i'll live with it, either that, or start using the command line
[12:36] <Dr_Willis64> or both. :)
[12:36] <hardyrr> the command line just for the copying. because i don't gui's to move files from one place to another
[12:37] <hardyrr> *i don'tr trust
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: you could hunt round for more options
[12:37] <Dr_Willis64> I tend to use mc as a file manager :)
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: yakuake here
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> yakuake is awesome
[12:37] <hardyrr> i used yakuake too, but that's not a filemanager lol
[12:37] <hardyrr> it's just a console in the end
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: i move, reaname and open my files with it
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: so in effect i am managing my files ;)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: but it is just a front for konsole
[12:39] <hardyrr> since everything is a file, everything is a file manager, yay
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hehe touche
[12:39] <hardyrr> :)
[12:40] <Dr_Willis64> 'dd' the ultimate file manager
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> makes me laugh when folks ask about icon themes and i cant help
[12:41] <hardyrr> Dr_Willis64: more hardcore than that is very hard to achieve lol
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: cat ;)
[12:42] <Schubi_> mh, the only application who gets some sound out of my boxes is amarok, wtf <.<
[12:42] <hardyrr> touche, ActionParsnip
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !sound | Schubi_
[12:45] <faileas> ooh
[12:46] <faileas> amarok2 went gold?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> uber
[12:47] <Dr_Willis64> SuperUber
[12:47] <Dr_Willis64> UltraSuperUber!
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> PANZERFAUST!!
[12:47] <faileas> well lifehacker seems to think so (which is nice since its one of those apps i'd like on any system regardless of OS ;p)
[12:47] <hardyrr> yeah, uberfail .
[12:47] <Dr_Willis64> 'MultiKill!'
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> M-M-M-Monsterkill
[12:48] <Guest95294> Ben een bash scriptje aan het schrijven, maar loop tegen een probleem aan
[12:49] <Guest95294> Kan iemand mij helpen met commando case
[12:49] <hardyrr> agreed
[12:49] <faileas> !ml
[12:49] <faileas> !nl
[12:50] <faileas> least i think its dutch >_>
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !dutch
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> same bag
[12:50] <hardyrr> !polish
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[12:50] <hardyrr> yeah, doesn't seem polish
[12:51] <hardyrr> !russian
[12:51] <faileas> ActionParsnip: nl = neitherlands = dutch = holland ;p
[12:51] <hardyrr> yap, not russian
[12:51] <faileas> looks like dutch but i'm not sure, its not german spanish, portugese or french for certain
[12:51] <hardyrr> faileas: pardon my ignorance, but i don't see a difference, just semmantics
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> faileas: oh ive heard they get quite upset at holland
[12:52] <hardyrr> it's not latin based for sure
[12:52] <hardyrr> holland is a region of the netherlands, but they speak differently ?
[12:52] <Bou> no
[12:53] <hardyrr> cool :)
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> hardyrr: from my grasp its the same but if you speak to folks from there they get a bit upity and inist they are from netherlands
[12:53] <Bou> i think holland=netherlands
[12:53] <hardyrr> Bou, it's definitely a region, not the country
[12:53] <hardyrr> but most people don't care and just call it holland
[12:53] <Bou> really? then in French we say "Hollande" to designte this country
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands
[12:54] <Bou> or "Pays-Bas" (low country)
[12:54] <hardyrr> i thought it was Pays Bas
[12:54] <hardyrr> ah, i knew my french wasn't that off...
[12:54] <Bou> yes, but we also say "Hollande".. which is maybe abusing
[12:54] <hardyrr> we do too in Portugal, "Holanda"
[12:54] <Bou> no Dutch people around here?
[12:54] <hardyrr> but at least i know the difference
[12:54] <Guest3762> OK no problem
[12:55] <gaelan> well, i think i've completely removed pulseaudio, but my sound is only working for one program at a time.. i get an error from xine if i try to use 2
[12:55] <Guest3762> ja ik ben NL
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> gaelan: have you set your system to use alsa?
[12:55] <hardyrr> it seems like it's using oss
[12:56] <gaelan> i went into the system settings>sound should it be on that list?
[12:56] <faileas> oss can only do one sound at a time
[12:56] <hardyrr> faileas: the most recent oss can a lot like alsa
[12:56] <supert0nes> ya
[12:56] <supert0nes> oss 4
[12:56] <faileas> ... i almost typed in my password here >_>
[12:56] <ikonia> careful
[12:56] <hardyrr> that's why it's a pity they were kinda closed sourced, alsa should have never come to existence, oss should have been improved on
[12:56] <faileas> ya
[12:57] <gaelan> hmm, i don'tknow if i'm using oss, should i try installing the newest oss, or just remove that completely?
[12:57] <supert0nes> the newest oss should work
[12:57] <supert0nes> i liked it
[12:57] <Dr_Willis64> I guess im lucky  - ive rarely had a sound issue .
[12:57] <gaelan> ok, i'll give that a try
[12:57] <hardyrr> as long as linux applications still target oss, shouldn't be a problem
[12:58] <supert0nes> gaelan: you should look on the forums how to proprely do it
[12:58] <supert0nes> or ask in #ubuntu
[12:59] <gaelan> supert0nes: yeah, i think i'll just post on the forums, but i am using kubuntu.. maybe there's no difference with the sound
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: me neither
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: save for my volume slider not moving in kmix, but i didnt care
[13:00] <Dr_Willis64> Only issue i ever had ages ago was having to make my creative card default to the digital out... :)
[13:00] <supert0nes> i don't think it is...If you find an ubuntu setup that should work because kde4 has oss backends
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: moves in intrepid thought :) and it autopicked up my volum keys on my keyboard
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: i dont buy creative
[13:01] <Dr_Willis64> Yep. the ubuntu disrtos seem to work better then most others ive ever tried at seeing/setting up the extra keys
[13:01] <ikonia> !give a test
[13:01] <Dr_Willis64> I will be suprised if creative is still around in a year or 2
[13:01] <gaelan> ok, thanks for the help!
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis64: ooh thats something id put money on
[13:03] <keres_> is it possible to disable error messages all together in an application?
[13:04] <keres_> i have an application that runs perfect on ibex, though it was meant for hardy and gutsy. it displays ~10 error dialogs on startup
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> you got the source?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis64> keres_,  given the varity of ways somtning can be doing error messages - i doubt if its possible
[13:07] <keres_> Um, yes. but the whole point it am running the .deb is so i do not have to compile it
[13:08] <keres_> :S
[13:08] <JvM_Gelon> Hello
[13:08] <keres_> Dr_Willis64: should i just ignore them?
[13:08] <JvM_Gelon> I was wondering if there is a possibility to add an SFTP to the remote locations in Kubuntu Hardy
[13:08] <Dr_Willis64> keres_,  got any other options? :) ya cant disable them  im guessing.. so you have to ignore them?
[13:09] <keres_> I'm gussing thats the only option.
[13:09] <keres_> :S
[13:09] <keres_> until i learn how to compile it for ibex, or i find a .deb for it
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> keres_: you could addresss the messages
[13:10] <Dr_Willis64> i would have to wonder what the specific error messages are also.
[13:10] <keres_> ActionParship: they are gtk+ error messages, for a UFOAI plugin/gamepack that nobody ever uses.
[13:11] <keres_> the program runs just fine otherwise
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> keres_: i'd log a bug
[13:13] <keres_> ActionParship: would that disable them?
[13:14] <keres_> from re-occurancE?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> keres_: if it can be replicated, the devs may release a patch or sugest a work around
[13:15] <keres_> ActionParship: the dev's have since released 1.6, which i think is ibex compatable. but it is mildly different than 1.5
[13:15] <keres_> and you have to compile it yourself
[13:15] <JvM_Gelon> Is there a way to add a SFTP folder to my remote places?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> could try removing it completely including --purge and reinstal fresh
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> JvM_Gelon: you might be able to add it if you type the protocol name at the start of its address
[13:19] <hardyrr> in intrepid i'm having a hard finding the regional settings, is there no such thing?
[13:20] <hardyrr> found it, damn i'm blind
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> JvM_Gelon: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg10t9.htm
[13:23] <JvM_Gelon> thx
[13:23] <JvM_Gelon> found that allready, but can't add it to my remote folders
[13:24] <JvM_Gelon> in Dolphin at remote:/
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> JvM_Gelon: thats all i got, have a hunt, im sure you'll find something. i'll lend a hand
[13:25] <bdizzle> morning
[13:26] <bdizzle> I was wondering, when trying to copy over the entire contents of one's hard drive, would it be best just to copy the Home folder, or do I need to copy everything else as well?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> JvM_Gelon: sudo apt-get install sshfs
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> JvM_Gelon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351777
[13:28] <JvM_Gelon> thnx
[13:30] <tyfon> eagles0513875:
[13:30] <tyfon> ups
[13:30] <tyfon> wrong window :p
[13:31] <koperton> hey guys someone can help me to choose another linux kde centred distro
[13:31] <koperton> or suggest me another?
[13:32] <hardyrr> opensuse or mandriva, that's it :P . nah just kidding, there's also pclinuxos
[13:32] <koperton> mm maybe it's better on offtopic
[13:32] <koperton> !offtopic
[13:32] <koperton> hardyrr: :) thank you
[13:33] <koperton> hardyrr: could you come on offtopic?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> koperton: mandriva :)
[13:41] <jm> Bou: one more finally i upgrade kde with backports and proposed, is there another to upgrade more because i don't have the option for hiding the task bar yet ?
[13:42] <jm> or anyone else :)
[13:45] <sd2> hi there. No kde 4.1.4 in view??
[13:47] <jm> salut sd2 tu utilises la version 4.1.3 ?
[13:47] <sd2> wép
[13:47] <sd2> jm
[13:47] <jm> sd2:
[13:47] <jm> oui ,
[13:47] <jm> moi aussi
[13:48] <jm> je cherche une version qui pourrait cacher la barre des taches .....
[13:48] <jm> mais c'est tjs pas la 4.1.3
[13:48] <Bou> jm: you won't get the latest version of KDE via backport
[13:48] <jm> Bou: or via proposed ?
[13:48] <Bou> jm: you have to build it from source, or use the kde 4.2 beta package for Kubuntu (you can find some on the Net)
[13:49] <jm> or sorry via ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu
[13:49] <jm> hum ok is ther a depot for that ?
[13:49] <jm> i will search ok thanks for the informations
[13:51] <X4D> Hi, I've been using Ubuntu for quite some time now, nearly 2 years and after trying out various KDE distributions I feel that KDE has an advantage over Gnome with it's applications Kontact, Amarok, etc... and the way they integrate. I just installed Opensuse 11.1 RC1 yesterday and I don't feel comfortable in a rpm based distro. Is Kubuntu stable for daily use? I don't mind troubleshooting at the beginning to set things up.
[13:53] <sd2> just a question about kubuntu : I use it from the beginning (befor was with debian+kde). Can anyone telle me why 8.10 included kde 4.1. why no waiting for 4.2. As a (only) user it looks very bugfull
[13:54] <Bou> maybe because you need feedback from user to track bugs
[13:54] <Bou> and people almost never download beta versions just for testing..
[13:55] <Bou> I guess that's one reason
[13:55] <Bou> probably not the only one
[13:57] <RurouniJones> Is there a lightweight version of ubuntu suitable for old machines that is also translated into Japanese?
[14:00] <bdizzle> xubuntu with a jap language pack?
[14:01] <bdizzle> X4D, I don't consider myself a power user by any means, other than running simulations for my research, but I've used Kubuntu for about 8 months now with no serious issues
[14:01] <bdizzle> the first two weeks are rough, but other than that, its solid
[14:01] <DawnLight> hello... where can i see information about the updates for stable? would an rss feed be asking too much?
[14:02] <RurouniJones> bdizzle: Yea sorry about that, had a brain fart
[14:02] <RurouniJones> Anyway I can get the language packs offline? I will probably be installing it on a machine with no net access in the beginning.
[14:03] <gustavonarea> Hello. Are you sure KDE 4.2 Beta 1 really is available in the repo you point out? Please take a look at this: http://paste.chrisarndt.de/paste/8510ee1e128e45d69a5aac738644e9b8
[14:03] <gustavonarea> I'm using Intrepid
[14:04] <X4D> bdizzle: Well I'll give it a go, can't hurt to try :)
[14:06] <bdizzle> X4D: word of advice. Create the root partition of about 10 GB and the rest you are planning to use as Home
[14:06] <bdizzle> helps out a lot
[14:07] <gustavonarea> Oh, and "Recommended Updates" is enabled
[14:07] <X4D> bdizzle: thanks
[14:08] <bdizzle> anyway, I'm in the process of copying over two partitions of my laptop hard drive onto my desktop, so naturally linux is running a bit slow right now (Windows would have died by now)
[14:08] <bdizzle> so I need to log off and allocate resources towards that
[14:08] <bdizzle> later all
[14:15] <atno> hello guys, how are you today?
[14:15] <atno> im trying to install ubuntu 8.10 on 20 machines
[14:15] <atno> is there and easy way to do it?
[14:16] <atno> do i have to make 20 copies of ubuntu, or there is an easier deployment?
[14:16] <RurouniJones> Depends on your definition of east - http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install
[14:16] <RurouniJones> er, easy
[14:16] <bazhang> !automate
[14:20] <weyland> hi! kennt ihr einen einfachen cpu/ram benchmark den ich ueber kommandozeile benutzen kann? ich benuzte hier auf der arbeit ein cluster und moechte die leistung der einzelnen nodes vergleichen...
[14:20] <Bou> !de
[14:20] <weyland> oh sorry, i thought this is the german channel
[14:21] <weyland> i am searching for a simple command line cpu/ram benchmark. i use a cluster at work and i want to measure the cpu/ram performance of the nodes...
[14:22] <Bou> i guess "top" is too basic for what you want to do?
[14:23] <weyland> yes :)
[14:24] <atno> !cloning
[14:24] <LjL> !info lmbench | weyland, RAM only
[14:26] <weyland> LjL: thx
[14:26] <Bou> !info hardinfo
[14:32] <desu> !automate
[14:53] <legodude> I'm having a problem with "print" dialogs never appearing
[14:53] <legodude> and the printer conf tool doesn't seem to work either
[14:54] <eagles0513875> what package do i need to have installed to be able to update sources from adept
[14:56] <LjL> eagles0513875: none...?
[14:56] <LjL> aside from adept
[14:56] <eagles0513875> LjL adept is telling me i cannot edit the sources form there
[14:57] <eagles0513875> it says the editor for package sources is not yet implemented
[15:00] <LjL> eagles0513875: so *edit* the sources, not *update* the sources. those are two different things. do you mean by doing Adept / Manage Repositories?
[15:01] <Leeuw> I changed some in fstab with the mount-manager, now my system won't start because it can't find the (separate) /var partition etc.   Am working from my emergency-Debian on differrent partition.  What can I do to solve the problem ?
[15:02] <LjL> Leeuw: reboot, go to the GRUB menu, pass "init=/bin/sh" to your kernel command line, boot, revert changes to fstab
[15:03] <Leeuw> LjL I'm not sure about the changes; would there be a backup of the old file ?
[15:03] <LjL> Leeuw: never used mount-manager, i don't know
[15:05] <Leeuw> LjL, ok, I'll have a look then and see what i'll find...   How can I list the files in a folder (by the way, fstab is in /boot, right ?) with the dates ?
[15:05] <LjL> Leeuw: no, fstab is in /etc/fstab.  "ls -l --sort=time"
[15:06] <Leeuw> LjL, of course, /etc, I knew that (all shook up by the bug...)...  Thanx !
[15:06] <yusuf_> how do i remove the grey background from the check Boxes in firefox
[15:06] <Leeuw> LjL the sort is a great idea, thanx nr 2
[15:17] <erisch> does anyone know if the load_cycle_count issue is solved in inteprid ibex?
[15:23] <Captain_Haddock> wasn't there supposed to be a point release with a lot of goodies backported in early december?
[15:23] <saurjk> hasnt amarok 2.0 been released in the repos??
[15:25]  * Captain_Haddock doesn't see it
[15:26] <saurjk> okie kool
[15:32] <[Vex]> gaaaaaa
[15:33] <[Vex]> upgraded to 8.10 yesterday
[15:33] <[Vex]> fixed sound
[15:33] <faileas> yay?
[15:33] <[Vex]> master channel set tp PCM
[15:33] <[Vex]> when front is muted (for docking) the volume OSD is always 0%
[15:34] <[Vex]> follows front, not master channel
[15:34] <[Vex]> a fix? workaraound?
[15:34]  * [Vex] fix speling
[15:38] <gaelan> ok, i've just messed up... when i log in using KDE4 it loads everything, but KDE itself is just white, all my autostart programs load because i can see skype
[15:38] <gaelan> but the interface itself is just... white
[15:38] <[Vex]> gaelan: newly upgrade or?
[15:38] <gaelan> is there a kde config file somewhere i can check from the terminal? or just delete something and let it regenerate?
[15:38] <gaelan> yes
[15:38] <[Vex]> a lot of X is left upto HAL now
[15:38] <gaelan> yes, i installed a long list of packages
[15:39] <[Vex]> but I'm sry to say I'm not familiar with it
[15:39] <gaelan> ok, thanks anyway, i'll do some more searching
[15:39] <[Vex]> wanted to turn off synaptic, but don't know how anymore...
[15:40] <jedix> gaelan: nightly, or beta?
[15:41] <gaelan> i'm just using the standard intrepid
[15:41] <gaelan> what i did was generate a list of packages from one install and try to use that for a second computer
[15:42] <gaelan> thought it would speed things up on configuration, guess not!
[15:42] <Captain_Haddock> gaelan: you can try renaming .kde in your home directory to .kde-old and restart X.
[15:42] <Captain_Haddock> that should regenerate all config files
[15:42] <pronoy> When i restart my computer, all my widgets go back to the default positon: up left corner, even though i locked the widgets before shutting down my pc.....how can i fix this ?
[15:43] <gaelan> thanks, when i try to rename it comes up with a syntax error, doesn't like the dot
[15:44] <Captain_Haddock> try doing it from the command line perhaps ...
[15:45] <gaelan> that's where i was trying from; just "rename .kde .kdeold"
[15:45] <[Vex]> mv
[15:45] <Captain_Haddock> use mv, not rename
[15:45] <gaelan> ahh, thanks
[15:46] <gaelan> i'm quite new to all this
[15:46] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[15:46] <pronoy> when i restart my pc..all my widgets come to the upper left corner, their default postion i guess....how can i keep them from going back ?
[15:47] <gaelan> wonderful! it's working again
[15:47] <gaelan> thanks so much!
[15:47] <Captain_Haddock> yw :)
[15:48] <jussi01> pronoy: it happens a few times then goes away in my experience, so just fix thhem and wait until it stops
[15:48] <Captain_Haddock> pronoy: no idea.. perhaps try logging out and logging back in rather than shutting down
[15:49] <pronoy> Captian_Haddock, jussi01 how to fix them....? and my computer can't keep running all the time.....i have to shut down some time you know
[15:49] <jussi01> pronoy: just reposition them as you would normally
[15:49] <jussi01> and after a few restarts it wont do it anymore..
[15:51] <pronoy> jussi01: i have like 10 widgets up there.......i'll have to do them all over again every time i login....this is not an option !
[15:52] <KomiaPoika> when installing kubuntu, how do i make grub install on the ide hard disk, instead of the sata hard disk where it's installed?
[15:53] <jussi01> pronoy: as I said, it shouldnt last long, just a few times, then the problem goes away!!!
[15:54] <pronoy> jussi01: i'll give it a shot.....
[16:03] <webas> hi guys.. any help? my wlan doesnt work and im not sure where to check what.
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Hola all
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !wireless | webas
[16:07] <webas> thanks im reading that, just its for ubuntu..and i cant even find system/administration/networking ( as this is in ubuntu )
[16:08] <desu> !bluetooth
[16:11] <BluesKaj> webas, maybe the ppl at #ubuntu can help you better , this is #kubuntu..some apps are different
[16:12] <webas> im on kubuntu.. the guid you showed me suits ubuntu.. and so i dont find where to go by that guide
[16:16] <KomiaPoika> does the  GeForce 7950GT work nice in kubuntu with nvidia drivers if the 6800GT works fine with the current install?
[16:16] <eagles0513875> KomiaPoika i have an 8800gt and it works fine in this desktop
[16:20] <eagles0513875> when i go to sources in adept that the editor for package sources has not yet been implimented what package do i need to install to impliment it
[16:21] <faileas> eagles0513875: you could use kate or nano to edit /etc/apt/sources.lst ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, I have the geforce7600GT and it worked fine right from the time I installed it, with the nvidia/kubuntu/linux recommended driver of course.
[16:23] <eagles0513875> :( blues
[16:29] <BluesKaj> KomiaPoika, I think your GeForce 7950GT should work right from the get-go
[16:30] <user17> yuuu... hi at all
[16:31] <user17> I'd like to know how to configure my kubuntu to be seen by an XP home PC in a mixed LAN
[16:31] <tyfon> !samba | user17
[16:32] <eagles0513875> tyfon any idea as to my issue
[16:32] <eagles0513875> when i go to sources in adept that the editor for package sources has not yet been implimented what package do i need to install to impliment it
[16:32] <tyfon> its not programmed yet
[16:32] <tyfon> what repository do you want to add?
[16:32] <paul__> hola
[16:33] <paul__> tengo un problema
[16:33] <paul__> el haber nacido
[16:33] <paul__> jejejejeje
[16:33] <eagles0513875> !es | paul__
[16:35] <tyfon> eagles0513875: have to add it manually to /etc/apt/sources.list until gui support for it is finished in adept
[16:35] <faileas> eagles0513875: as i mentioned, just use a text editor ;)
[16:35] <eagles0513875> i gotten spoiled by by adept and doing it that way
[16:37] <webas> anyone has notebooks with wlan? i need some help :)
[16:38] <eagles0513875> webas i do
[16:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, webas is running 8.04 kde3
[16:41] <webas> me too blueskaj me too :)
[16:41] <eagles0513875> ahhhhhhh gotcha blackflag
[16:41] <eagles0513875> webas ignore what i said then
[16:42] <BluesKaj> I was telling eagles0513875 you situation , webas ;)
[16:42] <BluesKaj> err your
[16:43] <webas> no need.. well he suggested me to restart pc..now my pc is messed up..because before restart i changed default rezolution from 4:3 1024*xxx to 16:9 1280*800 :\  i need to back up somehow
[16:44] <eagles0513875> webas dpkg --cofigure Xorg if im not mistake
[16:44] <eagles0513875> mistaken*
[16:45] <webas> err the screen is too unreadable.. but i opened terminal and wrote this..nothing happened..so i wrote password and still nothing happened :D
[16:46] <webas> :D haha my screen is unreadable.. ;) its ok i have old pc
[16:47] <faileas> webas: control alternate f1 . then edit your xorg or something, then reboot
[16:47] <faileas> though
[16:47] <faileas> you may have a failsafe mode, least on the newer ones
[16:50] <faileas> hmm
[16:50] <faileas> has anyone worked with mondo/mindi on kubuntu intrepid? i can't seem to get my mindi or mondo disks to boot
[16:51] <faileas> i get told to copy the disk images into floppies for some reason
[16:51] <BluesKaj> webas , ctrl+alt+f2 , then type : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:51] <ubuzztu> hey
[16:52] <BluesKaj> webas then once done type: startx
[16:52] <ubuzztu> i switched from kubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-desktop
[16:53] <ubuzztu> but i am having trouble switching back to kubuntu-desktop
[16:53] <user17> got another problem ... fresh installation of kubuntu 8.10 on and old 300Mhz - I can't USB KEY 2gb
[16:54] <ubuzztu> when i reboot it takes me to a ubuntu-desktop
[16:54] <ubuzztu> but the splash and login screens are kubuntu style
[16:56] <ubuzztu> and i am running kdm
[16:56] <usuario> kello
[17:01] <SiVA_> does anyone else find GTK apps really sluggish with kde4.1?
[17:02] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ i just chunk the default install of kde 4.1 that comes with kubuntu and do a custom one of my own which is plenty lighter
[17:03] <SiVA_> eagles0513875: Could you elaborate?
[17:04] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ i run a sudo apt-get purge kde* which strips the install back down to command line only. then i do sudo apt-get install kde-core and u come out wiht kde 4.1 but wiht no progrmas no kmix no knetworkmanager etc you install what you want
[17:06] <SiVA_> eagles0513875: Sounds interesting. But I don't care about disk space being used by extra programs.... or are there certain programs that are installed by default that reside in the memory at all time? Eating up CPU?
[17:08] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ the reason im doing this is bout half the default programs i dont use
[17:08] <eagles0513875> open office is slow and koffice is so much faster
[17:12] <SiVA_> open office is pathetically slow... I just got a new laptop.. top of the line dell XPS. But open office doesn't open any faster!! It's so frustrating
[17:12] <wesley__> SiVA try koffice
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !apt-build | SiVA_
[17:12] <moms> fr
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !info apt-build | SiVA_
[17:12] <eagles0513875> !fr | moms
[17:13] <eagles0513875> thats what im doing is using apt build to optimize everythign even k office and my whole system even shutdown bootup is super fast now
[17:13] <SiVA_> cool!! I'll try this for sure
[17:13] <webas> anyone can tell me why wireless network list is empty ( in network manager ) :)
[17:13] <SiVA_> I can do apt-build instead of apt-get for everything?
[17:13] <eagles0513875> yes
[17:13] <eagles0513875> even the upgrades
[17:14] <eagles0513875> there are certain packages that it wont work for like kmix and some others
[17:14] <KomiaPoika> !info apt-build | komiapoika
[17:14] <eagles0513875> :) found out about it from another user yesterday
[17:14] <cuznt> is it better than apt-get?
[17:15] <eagles0513875> cuznt it optimizes and compiles the programs from source for your hardware
[17:15] <SiVA_> will this remove office: apt-get purge openoffice* ?
[17:15] <eagles0513875> yes
[17:17] <KomiaPoika> how can i chose on which hard drive to install grub when installing kubuntu?
[17:17] <SiVA_> it wants to know what my cpu architecture is
[17:17] <eagles0513875> what processor u got in ur laptop
[17:17] <eagles0513875> it has to be specified so it knows how to optimize it
[17:18] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ im gonna pm ya
[17:18] <SiVA_> hey I got it
[17:18] <eagles0513875> KomiaPoika it has to be the vry first partition or the MBR
[17:18] <SiVA_> Core duo.. so I guess it's core2! :)
[17:18] <eagles0513875> guess so 2 im doing this on 3 yr old amd athlon64 and im telling u it helps
[17:18] <eagles0513875> i have core2 quad and i would love to try it out on here
[17:19] <KomiaPoika> eagles0513875: kubuntu installs on a sata drive but the pc only sees the ide drive at boot time
[17:19] <KomiaPoika> eagles0513875: so i want to force install grub on the ide drive
[17:20] <SiVA_> "sudo apt-build install openoffice" doesn't find openoffice
[17:20] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ not everythign will work wiht apt-build
[17:20] <cuznt> can you move your grub?
[17:20] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ try koffice instead and it will work apt-build
[17:20] <eagles0513875> grub needs to be in first primary partition on the mbr
[17:21] <KomiaPoika> SiVA_: sudo apt-build install openoffice.org
[17:21] <cuznt> right now for me it is on the other harddrive and i want to move it
[17:22] <eagles0513875> SiVA_ fyi if u set apt-build to strong it will take some time to compile cuz its doing the most optimization for your system
[17:24] <eagles0513875> !adept
[17:32] <cool_> hello people..
[17:32] <cool_> I've installed kubuntu 8.10
[17:32] <jussi01> cool_: great to hear! can we help you with something?
[17:33] <cool_> i have a problem ... with screen blanking ... the backlight doesn't go out like it used to in 8.04
[17:33] <cool_> i have intel video
[17:33] <jussi01> cool_: Ive not seen that issue, hopefully someone around has though
[17:33] <cool_> jussi01: ihave updated kde to 4.1.3 also
[17:36] <eagles0513875> does anyone know of a link to a list of pkgs that work with apt-build
[17:41] <webas> anyone can tell me why wireless network list is empty ( in network manager ) :)
[17:41] <eagles0513875> webas im not on kde3 anymore otherwise i would work with you on this i dont have the problem in kde4
[17:41] <eagles0513875> 4.1.3
[17:43] <webas> 4.1.3 is beta ye?
[17:44] <ari> HI: I have Kubuntu 8.10 installed, but the Compiz Fusion does not function correctly. I can not resize the windows. Anybody ahs experienced this ?
[17:45] <webas> ye..but i dont remember which option lets you to resize..just disable all functions..and then try to resize..if it works.then enable one by one functions
[17:45] <ari> ok.I'll try that out. Thanx.
[17:53] <jm> which soft can we use for viewing TV on kde4 ( like kaffeine on kde3 )
[17:53] <eagles0513875> !info mythtv
[17:53] <eagles0513875> jm is that what u want
[17:53] <eagles0513875> *you
[17:54] <jussi01> !tv | jm
[17:54] <jm> thks
[17:55] <jm> my card works great with kaffeine but now no more kaffeine on KDE4 i will try these soft
[17:55] <eagles0513875> jussi01 i found what i was missing software-properties-kde
[17:55] <jussi01> eagles0513875: I noticed...
[17:55] <eagles0513875> its amazing what a lil search on the link provided when you do adept on here can do
[17:56] <wallabee> How do i go about installing the proprietary driver for my video card???
[17:56] <KomiaPoika> wallabee: nvidia?
[17:57] <wallabee> KomuaPoika: Im not sure how to tell in linux
[17:57] <jm> there is no replacement of kaffeine ?
[17:57] <jussi01> wallabee: kmenu - system - hardware drivers
[17:58] <jussi01> jm: there is, but it doesnt support tv yet. so install kaffeine.
[17:58] <wallabee> jussi01: yes ive been there but it doesnt hav anything listed
[17:58] <jussi01> wallabee: which card?
[17:59] <wallabee> jussi01: when i go to sytem hardware drivers there are none listed ..im not sure what card can i use some sort of ls command to find out?
[17:59] <[Vex]> how do I disable synaptic touchpad after HAL took over?
[17:59] <jussi01> wallabee: lspci
[18:00] <wallabee> jussi01: this is what i get
[18:01] <wallabee> 0:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:01] <wallabee> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[18:01] <wallabee> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02
[18:01] <jussi01> wallabee: intel cards dont need restricted drivers
[18:01] <jussi01> they are installed from the word go, as the drivers are open source
[18:02] <wallabee> jussi01: thank you for the heads up
[18:02] <jussi01> wallabee: np's :
[18:02] <tat> ari: did you tryed compiz --replace?
[18:03] <user17> got another problem ... fresh installation of kubuntu 8.10 on and old 300Mhz - I can't see USB KEY 2gb
[18:04] <wallabee> jussi01: i have video glitches sometimes is why i wonder like when i right click and the menu comes up it takes a minute and its all distorted at first  and when i play some video games it seems like it struggles so i didnt know if i needed something to fix this
[18:05] <jussi01> wallabee: thats a kde glitch, and afaik they are working on it
[18:06] <wallabee> jussi01: no doubt will be an update...any opinion on allowing unsupported updates?
[18:07] <benbloom> did i just timeout and reconnect?
[18:07] <jussi01> wallabee: hrm, Im running the experimental repo, took a little to get going but now I have 4.2. if you dont need it for production, and are willing to play a little to get things working...
[18:07] <benbloom> at 10:02
[18:07] <jussi01> benbloom: no.
[18:07] <wallabee> jussi01: thanks again
[18:10] <Bels1> I could need some help getting suspend working
[18:12] <benbloom> what graphics card are you using Bels1?
[18:13] <lee00650> HOLA
[18:14] <Bels1> ati x1600.. using fglrx, but I have tried disabling fglrx and used the open source radeon driver instead.. no success
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[18:16] <Bels1> it's an asus a7jc laptop, i'll try to suspend, and it shuts down harddrives, wlan etc but leaves the monitor on with a blinking cursor and the fans go crazy
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> how can i stop the window data being displayed when i mouse over in kde 4.1
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> it says stuff like "opera on desktop 4" etc
[18:17] <cuznt> try right clicking on the task bar
[18:17] <Drunktard> what is the default video player on kunbuntu?
[18:18] <Drunktard> *kubuntu
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Drunktard: dragon
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Drunktard: in intrepid
[18:21] <Drunktard> alright thanks
[18:21] <lee00650> HOLA HABLA ALGUIEN ESPAÑOL
[18:23] <tyfon> !es | lee00650
[18:23] <lee00650> HOLA
[18:24] <lee00650> ALGUIEN EN ESPAÑOL
[18:25] <lee00650> HOLA
[18:26] <fabian__> holaaaaaaaa
[18:27] <fabian__> alguien de chile?
[18:28] <fabian__> nadie de chile? :S
[18:28] <bazhang> !es
[18:29] <fabian__> chucha thx
[18:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-cl fabian__
[18:33] <webas> anyone can tell me why wireless network list is empty ( in network manager ) :) wlan not working
[18:42] <webas> how to download autoinstall synaptic?
[18:48] <Bels1> What alternatives to adept do I have in KDE? (ofc synaptic but it looks ugly in kubuntu 4.2beta1 for some reason.. gtk-qt-engine is to blame i guess)
[18:49] <moms> fr
[18:51] <blackflag> Hello all :) What is the bast way to upgrade from 8.04-server to 8.10-server?
[18:55] <moms> fr
[18:55] <moms> kubuntu-fr
[19:01] <vonkleist> blackflag, u sure u want to upgrade?
[19:02] <vonkleist> 8.04 is LTS
[19:02] <vonkleist> 8.10 isn't
[19:02] <vonkleist> Bels1, what 'bout apt-get ? :P
[19:03] <Bels1> hehe... i already use aptitude
[19:03] <moms> salut
[19:04] <Bels1> for almost everything.. but synaptic show packets from different repositories in a nice way, new packages and stuff.. adept just don't give anything that aptitude can't
[19:05] <Bels1> with ease that is.
[19:09] <user17> i got a problem ... fresh installation of kubuntu 8.10 - I can't see USB KEY 2gb
[19:10] <user17> any tips?
[19:10] <tyfon> if its the 300 mhz machine it might be that the stick is usb 2.0 and the machine is 1.0.. but i was under the impression that 2.0 devices could be plugged into 1.0 usb ports
[19:10] <[Vex]> does anyone know how I can disable synaptic touchpad after HAL took over?
[19:11] <user17> tyfon: before with windows it works
[19:11] <[Vex]> normally usb 2.0 stick are 1.2 backwards compatible
[19:12] <user17> tyfon: yes is that old 300 mhz machine
[19:15] <user17> ok
[19:15] <tyfon> well im not sure then ;)
[19:16] <tyfon> i have a dual ppro 200 mhz with usb 1.0 that works fine with all my pendrives
[19:16] <user17> tyfon: i suppose you think it may works
[19:17] <user17> tyfon: i think that may be formatting of pen that is unrecognized by this fresh installation...
[19:17] <user17> tyfon:
[19:17] <user17> may be?
[19:17] <tyfon> it wont format anything by itself
[19:17] <tyfon> it should pop up on the desktop even if unformated
[19:18] <user17> it was formatted under XP
[19:18] <tyfon> it reads that fine :)
[19:18] <user17> so if I clear the pen may be no problem...
[19:18] <tyfon> it shouldnt matter
[19:19] <tyfon> i don't think the pen is the problem, maybe your usb drivers are acting up
[19:19] <tyfon> but im not very good in debugging usb problems
[19:19] <user17> clear
[19:20] <user17> !usb
[19:20] <user17> !driver
[19:22] <lee00650> hola
[19:24] <lee00650> hola como me boy al servidor en español
[19:26] <jpds> lee00650: Escribe: /join #kubuntu-es
[19:35] <root> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:35] <root> denme la
[19:35] <root> otra sala
[19:35] <Guest74592> donde hablan espanish
[19:35] <jpds> !es | Guest74592
[19:35] <Guest74592> grasias
[19:36] <Guest74592> se los agradescooooooooooooooo
[19:42] <delilaz> hello room, How does one terminate a program (k3b) using konsole???
[19:43] <gkffjcs_> killall k3b
[19:43] <elwood> delilaz: ps aux  | grep nameofprogramm
[19:43] <elwood> delilaz: kill -9 numer of pid
[19:44] <webas> anyone can tell me why wireless network list is empty ( in network manager ) :) wlan not working
[19:46] <delilaz> Thanks much gkffjcs and elwood! :)
[19:47] <pc_doode> HELP, installed Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition (64-bit) am trying to find drivers and application that will let me use my AVerMedia M791 NTSC/ATSC TV Tuner Card?
[19:51] <kaminix> Is there any quick way to copy all ./folder1/$folder$/*png to ./folder2/$folder$/*png? E.g. to copy files from one folder to another copying the structure of the previous folder.
[19:52] <edju> Is there a tool to select the best mirror for sources.list, like mirrorselect in gentoo?
[19:52] <vonkleist> kaminix, use cp -rp
[19:53] <pc_doode> HELP, installed Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition (64-bit) am trying to find drivers and application that will let me use my AVerMedia M791 NTSC/ATSC TV Tuner Card, does anybody have any ideas?
[19:53] <faichele_> ivtv.org
[19:54] <faichele_> Sorry, correct link: http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Main_Page
[19:55] <faichele_> Offers support for a wide range of TV tuner cards.
[19:56] <kaminix> vonkleist: Thanks. :)
[20:10] <avihayb> !numlock
[20:12] <avihayb> hello. does anybody know how to change the numlock behaviour so that it won't be effected by shift?
[20:12] <oliver__> irc://irc.freenode.net#ubuntu-de-loco
[20:21] <pc_doode> faichele: Thanks for trying help earlier but after reading through most of the info from the website am more confused now than ever!
[20:23] <pc_doode> I am about ready to give up using Ubuntu and just re-installing MS Windows Vista Home Premium!!!  :(
[20:25] <faichele_> Argh! No...
[20:26] <faichele_> What's the objective? Just a simple TV, or something more sophisticated like MythTV?
[20:27] <pc_doode> I'm trying to make my Gateway GM5478 and its various devices fully functional in something other than MS Windows Vista!
[20:27] <faichele_> What's that device? Settop box?
[20:28] <pc_doode> Avermedia M791 PCIe Combo NTSC/ATSC
[20:29] <tyfon> pc_doode: your card should be supported out of the box...
[20:29] <pc_doode> No, no settop box, direct connection to cable!
[20:29] <tyfon> you need ivtv to swithc channels though unless you use mythtv
[20:29] <tyfon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Feisty
[20:29] <tyfon> oh wait
[20:29] <tyfon> 791 :o..
[20:30] <pc_doode> OS shows no driver located for card!
[20:30] <tyfon> i saw 179 or something on that list ;)
[20:30] <faichele_> MythTV should work for you, I'd say.
[20:31] <tyfon> Avermedia M179 is the only supported avermedia card i can see
[20:31] <tyfon> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Supported_hardware
[20:31] <pc_doode> This OS isn't detecting card and providing a driver?
[20:31] <tyfon> no
[20:31] <faichele_> What does "lsmod|grep ivtv" say?
[20:32] <pc_doode> do what???
[20:32] <pc_doode> noobie to linux
[20:33] <faichele_> Open a terminal: "System"->"Konsole"
[20:34] <pc_doode> ok
[20:34] <faichele_> Then type that command without the quotes.
[20:35] <pc_doode> rodney@GM5478:~$ lsmod|grep ivtv
[20:35] <pc_doode> rodney@GM5478:~$
[20:35] <faichele_> No output?
[20:35] <pc_doode> ???
[20:35] <pc_doode> just get that
[20:35] <faichele_> There should be some text output if ivtv has picked up your TV card...
[20:36] <tyfon> hi's card isnt supported
[20:36] <pc_doode> That was all I got!
[20:36] <tyfon> hes*
[20:37] <Elijah_Frost> Good evening gentlemen. How do I play *.wmv video in Kubuntu?
[20:37] <Elijah_Frost> 8.04
[20:37] <Elijah_Frost> GStream codes do not help
[20:37] <faichele_> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/AVerMedia_M791_PCIe_Combo_(OEM)
[20:38] <Elijah_Frost> (however I can hear sound but there is no video)
[20:39] <pc_doode> ok plenty of assorted info at site but what do I do?
[20:40] <faichele_> Uh oh: "It is currently not supported under Linux"
[20:40] <pc_doode> An NTSC/ATSC PCIe card from AVerMedia.
[20:40] <pc_doode> It is currently not supported under Linux.
[20:41] <pc_doode> Just saw that!
[20:41] <pc_doode> This is definitely not good!
[20:41] <webas> how can download ndisgtk for hardy?
[20:44] <pc_doode> Looks like its going to be a wonderful trip down MS Windows Vista lane for me!
[20:45] <pc_doode> Teach me to buy a stinking proprietary system such as this one!
[20:46] <faichele_> Sorry, can't help that :-).
[20:47] <pc_doode> Thanks for trying to help!
[20:47] <faichele_> np.
[20:48] <faichele_> Next time, look for a Hauppauge card...
[20:48] <pc_doode> This is what came with system!
[20:50] <pc_doode> Even at that I have found that it is only mainly supported under Vista and maybe XP!!!
[20:50] <faichele_> A Hauppauge tuner?
[20:50] <pc_doode> No, the AverMedia!
[20:50] <faichele_> Chances are much better with these under Linux.
[20:50] <faichele_> Sorry, my mistake.
[20:51] <pc_doode> np :)
[20:51] <pc_doode> It's really to bad, I was starting to like this OS too!
[20:52] <faichele_> If you're feeling adventorous...
[20:52] <faichele_> Try VMWare.
[20:52] <faichele_> Or Xen.
[20:53] <faichele_> Vista as main OS, Kubuntu in virtual machine.
[20:53] <pc_doode> Hey, now you're really talking over my head!!!
[20:53] <edoceo> So 8.10 is way better than 8.04?  I should upgrade right now?
[21:01] <SkittleLinux18_> JontheEchidna: hey, what was that command you gave me yesterday to update adept manager in kubuntu??
[21:05] <SkittleLinux18_> or does anyone else know it for that matter??
[21:12] <dwidmann> hmm, looks like printing a range of pages with okular isn't working ... I tell it to print pages 20-22 and it printed pages 1-3 ...
[21:12]  * ildyakonov is away: ïÔÏÛ£Ì.
[21:12] <olegb> SkittleLinux18_: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/10/%23kubuntu.html
[21:14] <SkittleLinux18_> olegb: thanks man
[21:21] <robin0800> +
[21:29] <delilaz> Hello everyone, I have a problem.  I'm trying to burn a cd iso with k3b but k3b gets stuck in "starting writing at 32x speed" and then nothing happens.  Any help appreciated.
[21:30] <delilaz> Even when I cancel the job, k3b remains frozen
[21:32] <avihayb> hello. does anybody know how to change the numlock behaviour so that it won't be effected by shift?
[21:37] <brandon__> how the hekc does the flash drivers get going?
[21:37] <brandon__> On my eee pc everything works like it should. On my desktop in Kubuntu, flahs drivers do not work.
[21:37] <brandon__> any ideas?
[21:39] <brandon__> well tat doent work for me now does it?
[21:39] <NEKUBUNK> NE2KUBUNTU
[21:39] <NEKUBUNK> How
[21:39] <NEKUBUNK> and why?
[21:39] <NEKUBUNK> what?
[21:40] <NEKUBUNK> where and when?
[21:41] <Firefishe> is kde 3.5.x available in the intrepid release?
[21:42] <apachelogger> nope
[21:42] <Chafas> alguien habla español
[21:42] <Chafas> speak spanish
[21:42] <Chafas> help ayuda
[21:42] <apachelogger> !es
[21:43] <apachelogger> hyper_ch: => JontheEchidna
[21:44] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: thx :)
[21:44] <hyper_ch> he's been idle quite a while
[21:45] <apachelogger> maybe he is picking flowers
[21:45] <hyper_ch> maybe
[21:46] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: great job on amarok2 ppa... works great
[21:46] <apachelogger> you just saying that because you don't know the flaws :P
[21:46] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: a lot more things work than in the official 8.10 repo version
[21:47] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: you did compile with the --enable-flaws flag?
[21:47] <apachelogger> that is because it got less things to make work
[21:47] <apachelogger> also cmake uses -DVAR rather than --setting :P
[21:47] <hyper_ch> no clue about cmake :)
[21:48] <hyper_ch> and DVAR sounds to me like DVORAK
[21:48] <apachelogger> me neither :P
[21:50] <hyper_ch> apachelogger: so you know when JontheEchidna is normally online?
[21:50] <juan> hola a todos
[21:57] <Firefishe> Is there any way to install kde 3.5.x alongside Intrepid?
[22:07] <bitripper> hallo
[22:08] <reagleBRKLN> anyone know of kde 4.2 debs for hardy? neon-nightly not updated since oct
[22:10] <keres_> is photoshop CS3 supported in wine yet?
[22:18] <derjens> hello everyone
[22:18] <derjens> can somebody help me setting up tor button in firefox?
[22:18] <derjens> i've read i just have to install privoxy and tor button firefox add-on and it works
[22:19] <derjens> it does not:(
[22:19] <olegb> derjens: have you edited the privoxy conf file ?
[22:19] <derjens> olegb, i did not but i had read this wasn't necessary??
[22:20] <derjens> "apt-get install privoxy and installed Torbutton.
[22:20] <derjens> Just worked! Thanks "
[22:20] <derjens> https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/reviews/display/2275?show=10&page=9
[22:21] <olegb> derjens: i have added "forward-socks4a / 127.0.0.1:9050 ." in /etc/prixoxy/conf
[22:21] <keres_> is photoshop CS3 supported in wine yet?
[22:21] <derjens> does "/" mean these are 2 lines, olegb ?
[22:23] <olegb> derjens: no, the stuff between "" should be in the beginning of the privoxy config file in one line
[22:24] <derjens> olegb, i have just copied it
[22:24] <derjens> in that very moment tor button said it works!
[22:24] <derjens> yeah
[22:25] <derjens> YEAH
[22:25] <derjens> olegb, it is amazingly slow but an ip service now reports i am from sweden and my ip is some foreign one
[22:25] <derjens> thanks a lot!
[22:43] <ytoox> I am using kubuntu and I am confused because the wifi signal strength drops suddenly even though I am not moving around
[22:44] <ytoox> what can it be, how can I fix it?
[22:47] <dr_willis> some drivers have 'issues' from what i hear ytoox , also it could be some interferance. Hard to tell really.
[22:48] <ytoox> mm
[22:48] <fabio_> using kde4.2beta. May I ask?
[22:49] <ytoox> what are some of the things that others have tried in order to fix these problems?
[22:49] <ytoox> nop, I am on ubuntu
[22:49] <ytoox> but that channel is too crowded
[22:49] <dr_willis> ytoox,  you may want to check the forums for your exact wireless card/chipse4t - see if any others report similer issues.
[22:49] <fabio_> can't get strigi working (Failed to contact strigi)
[22:49] <ytoox> ok
[22:50] <fabio_> someone can help me?
[22:50] <emma> hey guys i need a little help
[22:51] <emma> after doing the updates and a restart, now kde does not begin when i start my computer.
[22:51] <emma> it just hangs, the screen stays black for a long time, until finally it gives up and boots me to the command line.
[22:51] <fabio_> xserver error, emma?
[22:51] <emma> i don't know, there was no problem until after i did the updates and a restart.
[22:52] <emma> i did nothing to the system myself.
[22:52] <fabio_> tried with the command startx?
[22:52] <emma> no i didn't try that. i think it's not x that needs to start but kdm.
[22:52] <ytoox> I think i have an atheros card
[22:53] <fabio_> try startx... it should spit out some hints...
[22:53] <fabio_> me to ytoox...it runs very slow
[22:54] <ytoox> mmmm
[22:54] <ytoox> it sucks
[22:54] <ytoox> do atheros card run on madwifi?
[22:54] <fabio_> I jave proprietary drivers installd with jokey?
[22:54] <ytoox> link?
[22:55] <fabio_> try with jockey program.
[22:55] <dwidmann> emma: kdm requires an x server to be running ... so if X can't be started with startx then kdm can't be started either
[22:55] <fabio_> someone can help me with strigi&nepomuk
[22:55] <fabio_> pls
[22:56] <emma> Any ideas?
[22:56] <emma> dwidmann: i'll see if it does that.
[22:57] <ytoox> fabio_: is there a repository for ubuntu with these propietary drivers?
[22:57] <emma> dwidmann: i did startx and it seems to be starting kde.
[22:57] <fabio_> ok emma..let us know
[22:57] <dwidmann> emma: hah, that's interesting
[22:58] <fabio_> oh...ytoox...i just launched jockey from a console
[22:58] <ytoox> ok
[22:58] <ytoox> oohh, i tried it but no devices show up
[22:58] <emma> dwidmann: except no kdm because i'm already logged on. also doing it like this, it means that i (em) started x and not root. i think there could be probs with that.
[22:59] <ytoox> it says, no propietary devices on this system
[22:59] <fabio_> are you on kde, ytoox?
[23:00] <ytoox> nop
[23:00] <fabio_> i have restricted repository enabled
[23:00] <emma> dwidmann: for example now i have no audio.
[23:00] <dwidmann> emma: that's likely a separate problem
[23:00] <emma> dwidmann: should i do sudo startx ?
[23:00] <ytoox> I did jockey-gtk and on the interface there are no devices present
[23:00] <ytoox> ok
[23:01] <emma> i think it's because the audio does not know i'm part of the group to get audio.
[23:01] <emma> it's not a separate problem because i've always had audio.
[23:01] <dwidmann> emma: you almost never want to start x as root anyway ....
[23:01] <ytoox> fabio_: me too
[23:01] <dwidmann> emma: type "groups" in a shell to find out if you're part of the audio group
[23:02] <fabio_> just a moment,ytoox
[23:02] <ytoox> ok
[23:02] <emma> dwidmann: it says: em adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[23:03] <derjens> olegb, still there?
[23:03] <emma> you should not have to type startx after logging into commandline login on kubuntu.
[23:03] <derjens> for last mins i have been trying out tor
[23:03] <emma> i should not be logging in on command line in kubuntu. that's the whole problem.
[23:03] <derjens> why does google.com present german google site even if i set tor to "spoof us browser"??
[23:03] <dwidmann> emma: no audio? You'll have to fix that then if you want sound
[23:04] <emma> no this makes no sense.
[23:04] <emma> i have always had sound.
[23:04] <fabio_> ytoox
[23:04] <emma> this is what's happened: i did the updates and i restarted. after doing that, kdm is not starting and i'm not getting any kde. after a long blank scren it takes me to command line login.
[23:04] <fabio_> try this:
[23:04] <dwidmann> emma: erm, try putting yourself in the audio group anyway
[23:04] <emma> how?
[23:04] <fabio_> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[23:04] <LjL> sudo adduser username group
[23:05] <emma> it said that was succesful but i really feel this is ignoring the real problem some how.
[23:05] <emma> isn't the real problem that kdm and kde aren't starting like they always have before?
[23:06] <dwidmann> emma: with regards to sound issue, that may help, with regards to the other issue(s), they're separate problems
[23:06] <emma> i feel this is a problem with kubuntu not me since i did nothing but do the updates and restart.
[23:06] <fabio_> ytoox...something installing?
[23:07] <fabio_> Ok..right to the originary question...something can help me get strigi working with nepomuk?
[23:07] <dwidmann> emma: possibly doing the upgrades caused some sort of trouble.
[23:08] <emma> it seems like that must be. it's the only variable that changed.
[23:08] <dwidmann> emma: come to think of it try running "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if anything big happens
[23:08] <ytoox> hold on
[23:08] <emma> okay.
[23:08] <fabio_> before that try sudo apt-get chech, emma!
[23:08] <fabio_> check sorry
[23:08] <fabio_> maybe briken dependencies :-/
[23:09] <fabio_> broken...today I suffer dislexia
[23:10] <ytoox> fabio_: done!
[23:10] <fabio_> ok...seems like i have to go to sleep...no help today!
[23:10] <fabio_> heve you reboot system ytoox'
[23:10] <ytoox> ok
[23:10] <ytoox> any other steps after that?
[23:10] <fabio_> reboot
[23:11] <ytoox> all right
[23:11] <ytoox> thank you!
[23:11] <ytoox> gotta run
[23:11] <fabio_> and let us see today here...same hour same channel! :-)
[23:11] <fabio_> bye all, good night!
[23:14] <emma> dwidmann: i did that and did a reboot and it's the same thing.
[23:15] <emma> after being taken to the commandline login i did a startx
[23:15] <dwidmann> hmmm
[23:15] <emma> with a startx kde begins, but not the kde login.
[23:15] <emma> it does seem i have audio now, though, doing it that way.
[23:15] <dwidmann> emma: perhaps the sound will work in the command line but not in kde ... I had a similar problem on my parents computer not so long ago
[23:15] <emma> but this does not seem to be the way that you are supposed to start kubuntu.
[23:16] <emma> the sound is not the issue. the sound always worked when kdm/kde would start automatically upon starting kubuntu.
[23:16] <emma> now those are not starting and i have to do startx from the commandline after being taken to commandline login
[23:22] <emma> well im not sure what hte problem is.
[23:22] <emma> is kubuntu failing to start with the correct runlevel?
[23:22] <emma> kubuntu is supposed to start with a kdm login screen. it's not supposed to take me to command line where i start x manually.
[23:25] <tyfon> make sure /etc/rc2.d/S30kdm is in place
[23:25] <devin> hey all i added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main to my repositories list but it won't fetch it. Any ideas why?
[23:25] <tyfon> also check that you are in runlevel 2 (by issuing the runlevel command)
[23:27] <emma> well when i do that from konsole it says it's runlevel 2.
[23:27] <tyfon> emma: is the file in place?
[23:27] <emma> tyfon: i don't know what that means is it in place.
[23:27] <tyfon> ls -l /etc/rc2.d/S30kdm
[23:27] <tyfon> see if it's there, and if so if it points to ../init.d/kdm
[23:27] <emma> doing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart seems to 'fix' the problem also. but not fix it since it will just do the same thing next time.
[23:29] <emma> tyfon i get this...
[23:29] <emma> ls: cannot access /etc/rc2.d/S30kdm: No such file or directory
[23:30] <emma> no that doesn't make sense. scratch that.
[23:30] <emma> i was using /exec -o but i forgot im sshing into a different comp.
[23:30] <emma> the file is there and it's pointing to /init.d/kdm
[23:30] <tyfon> ok
[23:30] <tyfon> oh
[23:30] <tyfon> thats strange indeed
[23:31] <tyfon> since it starts when you /etc/init.d/kdm restart.. btw, .. does it work with /etc/init.d/kdm start?
[23:31] <emma> i don't know. should i reboot and try that also?
[23:31] <tyfon> yes, if it tells you kdm is already running, try ALT+F7
[23:32] <emma> right now in tty 7 i have kde going.
[23:32] <emma> kde is currently going in tty7
[23:32] <tyfon> might be that its not switching to tty 7 automatically
[23:32] <tyfon> yes
[23:32] <emma> well i'll totally restart and then try /etc/init.d/kdm start to see what happens.
[23:32] <tyfon> kk
[23:34] <aboSamoor> amarok is not working with my thinkpad r61 multimedia keys how can I fix this ?
[23:35] <aboSamoor> I am using Amarok 2.0
[23:35] <devin> hey abo I'm trying to install amarok 2.0, my repo isn't fetching it.  How did you go about getting it?
[23:37] <aboSamoor> devin: I have 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main' in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:37] <emma> tyfon: okay this really makes no sense. This time when I rebooted, having done nothing in particular that was permenant, it works normal.
[23:37] <devin> aboSamoor: i think that's what i have, lemme check
[23:37] <aboSamoor> and the proposed and backports updates are enabled also
[23:37] <emma> I seriously wish that computers would follow the laws of physics.
[23:38] <devin> hmm, have all that and yet it still has amarok as 1.4
[23:40] <aboSamoor> devin: even in hardy it was 1.6
[23:41] <aboSamoor> devin:  for sure you have proposed and backports repos enabled ? did you make apt-get update ?
[23:41] <devin> that's strange.  Arg, why doesn't adept fetch as advertised
[23:41] <devin> let me try that
[23:41] <tyfon> emma: lol
[23:41] <tyfon> emma: i had that same issue once.. but only once
[23:41] <emma> Sure doesn't make sense.
[23:42] <tyfon> and when it happened it was that X fired up, but didnt switch to the VT
[23:42] <emma> I'm glad it decided to spontaneously heal itself.
[23:42] <tyfon> :)
[23:42] <devin> i guess yet one more package i'm going to need to install from source
[23:42] <devin> must run off to work, thanks aboSamoor!
[23:44] <Neremor> hello!
[23:44] <Neremor> I'Ve a problem
[23:44] <Neremor> i try to set up compiz with emerald
[23:44] <Neremor> because i like compiz and i found a very nice emerald theme
[23:44] <Neremor> compiz works very nice for me
[23:45] <Neremor> but i don't have any window decorations.
[23:45] <aboSamoor> any idea how to make my multimedia keys work with amarok ?
[23:45] <Neremor> i think kwin isn't running and i also think that emerald is running
[23:45] <Neremor> but just don't displays any decorations
[23:45] <Neremor> any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[23:50] <wallabee> my amarok has been acting up.. it hasnt been appearing after loading up.. i logged out and then back in and i could access it but now its greyed out (or rather darkened) in the system tray anyone know what might be causing this or how to fix it???
[23:53] <keres_> what does "mv: cannot move `maps' to `/home/keres/.quake2world/default/maps': Directory not empty" mean?
[23:55] <tyfon> try to mv maps/* /home/keres/.quake2world/default/maps
[23:55] <tyfon> since it already has a maps directory it doesnt want to overwrite it
[23:56] <bdizzle> hi
[23:56] <bdizzle> I was wondering if anyone knew how to remove recent documents in KDE4? (Hardy)
[23:58] <afeijo> I lost my login screen, now it just wait for a login in like a black shell screen! how to restore it ?
[23:59] <tyfon> bdizzle: in the k-meny, right click on the tab with the recent files
[23:59] <tyfon> and select "clear recent file list"