| fta | reed, are you there? | 00:39 |
|---|---|---|
| reed | fta: yep | 00:39 |
| fta | in a meeting? | 00:39 |
| reed | yes, but I can leave | 00:39 |
| reed | I'm in the p2v meeting | 00:39 |
| reed | in server room | 00:40 |
| reed | fta: what do you need? | 00:41 |
| fta | nothing, just wondered were you were. | 00:46 |
| reed | getting tired | 00:46 |
| asac | reed: so when can we go to mozillla? | 00:54 |
| asac | reed: i think it starts at 1830 ... but we end at 1715 today | 00:54 |
| asac | so there is a limbo time | 00:55 |
| reed | I see no reason for us not to just go on | 00:55 |
| reed | mconnor: any problems you see if we come early? | 00:55 |
| stevel | asac: their page says 6... talks start at 6:30 | 00:56 |
| stevel | i assume pizza or stuff we'll arrive in between | 00:56 |
| reed | asac: 1715? looks like 1700 | 00:58 |
| asac | reed: where do you see that? | 00:59 |
| reed | the people just confirmed it | 00:59 |
| reed | in the room | 00:59 |
| reed | as in, we're wrapping up | 00:59 |
| asac | hmm ... 1700 is when last sessions end ... i think they leave at 1715 | 00:59 |
| asac | so yeah ... lets meet in front of 1500 in a few | 00:59 |
| reed | I think we can go over, and I can give you all a tour | 01:00 |
| reed | before everybody else shows up | 01:00 |
| asac | cool | 01:01 |
| reed | ok, I'm packing up | 01:02 |
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| emgent | asac: ping | 03:38 |
| === rZr is now known as RzR | ||
| === fta2 is now known as fta | ||
| asac | @time los_angeles | 22:46 |
| ubottu | Current time in America/Los_Angeles: December 11 2008, 14:46:56 - Next meeting: LoCo Council in 3 days | 22:46 |
| reed | http://whacked.net/2008/12/11/ubuntu-songbird-sitting-in-a-tree/ | 23:35 |
| asac | hmm | 23:36 |
| asac | not really matches exactly what i said ... but well | 23:36 |
| reed | well, what are the differences for stevel's benefit? | 23:40 |
| stevel | asac: doh. i'm happy to update. what did i miss? | 23:42 |
| stevel | or get wrong :-P | 23:42 |
| asac | stevel: i didnt say "we dont care about security in universe", but "there is no canonical commitment to do whatever is required to provide it" .... | 23:53 |
| asac | stevel: "actually i said we care about security in universe, and hence we should see if we can loosing some stability policy constraints" | 23:53 |
| stevel | i don't think i said "we don't care about security in universe" did i? | 23:53 |
| asac | e.g. so you can just upload latest | 23:53 |
| stevel | that's certainly not what i meant... | 23:53 |
| asac | stevel: you said that the security can be dealt more loosely in universe | 23:54 |
| stevel | yeah, i said "but main has stricter support and security guarantees than universe does" | 23:54 |
| asac | which is true in that we might consider to just upgrade to latest upstream version instead of doing individual backports for patches | 23:54 |
| stevel | right... that's what i understood... you're right though, my wording perhaps is phrased poorly | 23:54 |
| stevel | i'll post an addendum | 23:55 |
| asac | stevel: yeah ... for me it sounds like that we can get songbird in universe because its ok if we stopp doing security :) ... its just that we could try to get new upstreams in given that we can reach consent internally about this ;) | 23:55 |
| asac | stevel: thanks | 23:55 |
| stevel | asac, does this read correctly as an addendum? | 23:58 |
| stevel | Update: My wording was perhaps poor... I didn't mean to give the impression that there is not security in universe, or that security policies are somehow lax vs. main. Specifically, universe might be a better option than main because instead of having to backport individual patches to the supported-release version (as would have to happen in main), we could instead just rev to the latest Songbird release (thus shifting some of t | 23:58 |
| stevel | uh. minus the typo in maintenancefrom | 23:58 |
| stevel | :-P | 23:58 |
| asac | stevel: right. givin that other ubuntu folks accept that xulrunner based applications are special | 23:58 |
| * stevel nods | 23:58 | |
| asac | and that we manage to find a more or reliable way to make those updates happen on a longer run ;) | 23:59 |
| stevel | yeah | 23:59 |
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