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Anusien!samba00:42
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fuxxyWhat's the difference between the "Desktop" and "Alternate" x64 images?02:15
rhpot1991_laptopalternate is the text based installer02:19
rhpot1991_laptopuse the desktop unless you have a reason otherwise02:19
fuxxyrhpot1991_laptop, ok, thanks.02:19
twitchnlngreetings03:47
twitchnlni would like to implement "remote passthru" to allow me to use my crapcast on demand via my frontend, i already have the blaster working on the backend.. how difficult would it be to have the frontend relay the crapcast remote to the blaster?03:50
hadsHow would you differentiate what you want to send to myth and what you want to send to your STB?03:52
hadsOr do you have seperate remotes?03:52
twitchnlni put my stb in a different room with the backend03:54
twitchnlni'm actually trying to figure out how i can pass my comcrap remote thru to the backend so i can take advantage of on demand03:55
hadsYes I gathered that from when you said 'i would like to implement "remote passthru" to allow me to use my crapcast on demand via my frontend'03:56
hadsTHen I said "How would you differentiate what you want to send to myth and what you want to send to your STB?"03:56
twitchnlnsorry... yes seperate remotes03:56
hads:)03:56
twitchnlnburned out here...03:57
hadsI don't think there is a way to do it from within myth at all.03:58
hadsYou would probably be able to do it with a bit of hacking though.03:58
twitchnlnyeah, thats what i figured...03:59
twitchnlni was just hoping to get around cat'ing the buttons on the comcast remote and putting them into the lirc conf file03:59
hadsI know lirc has some network stuff built in but I've not used it so don't know if it will do that.03:59
twitchnlni was unaware that lirc was network aware04:00
hadsYeah; http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html04:01
twitchnlnif i set it up client/server like that, wouldn't everything be piped out the server? including the remote that changes the frontend? or would myth still catch that?04:07
hadsAs I said I've not tried it.04:10
rhpot1991_laptopperhaps you can have irexec execute some sort of blaster script04:10
rhpot1991_laptopvideo delay is gonna kill you though04:11
rhpot1991_laptopjust get netflix, its easier04:11
twitchnlnyeah.... i know04:11
hadsYeah, that's probably what I would do, irexec a script via the network to the backend where it does an irsend. I thought lirc may have something built in though.04:11
* rhpot1991_laptop gets bluefish to pretend asp is html, and is happy about it04:12
rhpot1991_laptopdoing that would work to get you on the on demand, but its gonna be a pain to navigate with the delay04:12
hadsOh for sure.04:13
rhpot1991_laptopIMO you'd be better off trying firewire and having the box hooked up to a TV, my STBs will pump video to firewire and hdmi at the same time04:13
rhpot1991_laptopthen you can navigate get your video ready and do a manual record04:13
hadsI have a script that does a couple of things for when silly Sky bring up parental lock screens etc.04:13
rhpot1991_laptopprovided you can get the channel with firewire04:14
twitchnlnmy box is the most low budget stb i've ever seen... it's near as small as the modem04:14
rhpot1991_laptopI generally get fed up with sillyness and just find it on netflix, encryption on dvds are much easier to work with than encryption on stbs04:14
rhpot1991_laptoptwitchnln: ah, those are old and don't have firewire cause they are SD only04:15
twitchnlncorrect04:15
rhpot1991_laptopyou can upgrade to HD and get a good one04:15
rhpot1991_laptopor yell at them and tell them they are required by FCC to provide you with firewire for OTA channels04:15
rhpot1991_laptopgood luck with that :)04:15
rhpot1991_laptopmy comcast treats me like I am a terrorist when I ask for a specific STB04:16
twitchnlnslave tuner... i have a one hd box already, on pinnacle i800... then i have the sd box plugged to pvr350.. and analog to pvr15004:16
rhpot1991_laptopthe motorolla boxes generally work well with firewire04:17
rhpot1991_laptopif you get one that was made in the firewire age04:17
rhpot1991_laptopbut encryption is hit or miss depending on your area04:17
rhpot1991_laptopI think the ones capable of HD are more to rent as well though, I am pretty sure you could just request a HD box and say you don't want to pay anymore for any new channels04:18
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* rhpot1991_laptop goes to make some more tea04:21
fuxxyI've never done wifi with linux before, I'm planning on trying this out real quick as a livecd frontend.. How would I get wireless networking working?04:22
hadsI'm not sure if mythbuntu has network manager by default, I assume so. Boot it up and see what happens04:23
fuxxyWill it boot into the frontend, or a desktop?04:24
ChaorainI'm having some problems with my tv tunner04:24
fuxxyChaorain, have you tried kicking it?04:24
Chaorainit has bad sound on analog and does not work on digital04:25
Chaorainlol04:25
fuxxyWhat card is it?04:25
Chaorainhttp://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_(800i)04:25
fuxxyChaorain, what kernel version?04:26
ChaorainI installed the firmware and the v4l-dvb too04:26
Chaorainum04:26
fuxxyChaorain, uname -a04:26
ChaorainIs there a way to minimise mythtv dvd rip?04:26
Chaorainnvm04:27
twitchnlnback usually works or esc on kb04:27
fuxxyChaorain, doubt it, I just log in using ssh04:27
fuxxyChaorain, how much was the card? It seems interesting.04:27
hadsfuxxy: Not used the live disk, I think XFCE04:28
Chaorain2.6.27-9-generic04:28
Chaorainit was a while ago I think $8004:28
fuxxyrebooting04:29
rhpot1991_laptopChaorain: you can exit it and it keeps running04:33
Chaorainoh right thats the backend not the front end04:34
Chaorainthats cool04:34
hadsNa it's frontend04:35
ChaorainI ment the process of riping is backend04:35
hadsIt's not :)04:35
Chaorainso does anyone know whats wrong?04:40
sabhain!chroot04:49
ZinnSorry I don't know about chroot04:49
z4chhi recently installed a haupaugge pvr-150 after a mythbuntu installation...the probe of the card detected it fine and seemed to load everything (drivers and device creation)..but when i go into mythtv Tv->system settings, i see "Tuner 1 [MPEG: /dev/video0] is unavailable"05:27
slaine_Hey guys12:54
slaine_I've got an 8.04 Mythbuntu setup on a Via CLE266 based box with a PVR-500 analogue card for tv capture. Any issues likely for me with an Upgrade to 8.10 ?12:54
=== richard is now known as Guest68008
Guest68008hi all my tv is capable of doing 1360 x 768 but when i try and set it to that res it fails16:17
sabhainanyone ever see this chroot error: "id: cannot find name for group ID 124" .. .? Trying to chroot into diskless image.  Seems to be a permissions / ownership thing?16:50
sabhainOk .. so I think maybe I'm stumbling onto something.  In my core backend, the mythtv group is #124.  In the i386 image, it is 115 .. could it be that the groups mismatch is causing a problem?17:12
sabhainbut if I edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/group to match (just making the mythtv group  = 124), it let's me in the chroot.17:22
sabhainor maybe I was in all along? .. I'm confused ..17:28
neofaxI upgraded my system and decided to use the alpha1 version of Jaunty Mythbuntu.  Now I cannot record on the first tuner of my PVR-500.18:03
tgm4883_laptop!logs | neofax18:06
Zinnneofax: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/18:06
tgm4883_laptop!pastebin | neofax18:06
Zinnneofax: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.18:06
neofaxHere is my backend log: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7eedb91418:08
neofaxI have not used the frontend yet on the mythbuntu server.  I pretty much just use my other system to connect to the backend.18:10
tgm4883_laptopneofax, post some logs using mythbuntu-log-grabber18:10
neofaxCan I do that from the pc I am at now using the mythfrontend?18:11
tgm4883_laptopno, from the backend18:11
tgm4883_laptopI want more logs from the backend18:12
tgm4883_laptopYou might be able to do it from another computer over ssh18:12
neofaxThe previous pastebin is from the server backend which I sshed into.  I will go to the system itself and send the link. brb18:13
tgm4883_laptopneofax, I got the link, I just want more logs.  MLogG will give me the relevent info I think18:15
tgm4883_laptop!logs18:15
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use Mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.18:15
neofaxHere is the new log pastebin: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f3ad4d2f518:16
tgm4883_laptophmm, I'm not seeing anything wrong in these logs :(18:20
tgm4883_laptopis mythweb still showing both tuners?18:21
neofaxMythweb allows me to select either tuner, but for some reason tuner1 raises a conflict.18:21
tgm4883_laptophmm, lets see the logs from your frontend machine18:23
neofaxI think this may have to do with the similar problem I had before where my cx88 tuner card would change /dev/videoX positions on each reboot.  However, I did not have that problem on mythbuntu 8.04.18:23
neofaxHere are the frontend logs:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1c61458618:23
tgm4883_laptopvery odd.  I'd try readding the tuners in mythtv-setup18:25
neofaxIs there a way to add in the modules file to force the cx88 card to say /dev/video2?18:26
neofaxFound it!  Just ned to add options cx8800 video_nr=2 and it should work.  Then I can reboot and re-run mythtv-setup and that should fix it.18:28
neofaxThanks for the help!  Now just to figure out how to add the wether maps for my area, Philadelphia, to mythweb and the frontends.18:32
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richard1901hi all18:56
jphillipI hope you are 107 years old18:56
richard1901can any onr tell me hoe i can change my monitor settings is there an app or somthing18:57
richard1901nearly 100818:57
jphillipheh18:57
richard1901errr 100818:57
richard1901dAMIT SEE SO OLD CAN'T TYPE18:57
richard1901see18:57
jphilliprichard1901 nvidia/ati/something else?18:58
richard1901nvidia but the settings manager fails to set correct res18:58
richard1901trying to get 1360x76818:58
richard1901i think it hasn't got my monitor setup correctly18:59
richard1901how do i change settings18:59
jphilliplet me dig for a minute18:59
jphillip!pastebin18:59
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.18:59
richard1901k cheers18:59
richard1901sorry19:00
jphilliprichard1901 http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m70dbd84d19:02
jphillipyou will have to do research on your tv, but I get 1360x768 with this19:02
jphillipin theory it should be able to auto detect, but some TVs don't send the propper EDID info and sometimes some vga cable don't transmit it correctly either19:03
richard1901will it break if i use your xorg.conf?19:03
jphillipthis is the big thing you need: Option          "ModeValidation"        "NoWidthAlignmentCheck"# Important!!! need this option to use nvidia card at 1366 x 76819:03
jphilliprichard1901 I would back your current one up first19:03
jphillipthen start picking pieces of mine and plugging them in19:03
richard1901cheers19:03
tgm4883_laptopIIRC, using someone elses modeline isn't a good idea19:04
jphilliptgm4883_laptop well if he just gets rid of the width validation it may all fall into place, the problem is that 1366x768 isn't a standard res19:06
jphillipso it gets rejected then xorg defaults to 1024x768 or something19:06
tgm4883_laptopyea19:07
neofaxFor the 1360x768 resolution, there is no need for the modeline or the mode validation.  Just set the UseEdid to false and you may want to force the dpi to 96.  I currently run this on my 40" Samsung LCD TV as that is the intended resolution for this LCD.19:22
neofaxHere is my Xorg.conf file:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d7e65fd9019:23
jphillipneofax your sammy should do EDID well19:24
jphillipmine does19:24
jphillipalso you want dpi 100x100 for mythtv19:25
jphillipand you are 1360x768, the screen res for a lot of tv's is actually 1366x768 which is where the problems come from19:26
jphillipbut yes, going with 1360x768 is easier to work with if you don't want to hack up your xorg19:26
neofax1360x768 is what he asked for.19:26
jphillipneofax you are right, my appologies19:27
jphillipI'd still say to check the manufacturers info on the TV as I've seen most of them at 136619:28
candrewswhat init script starts the mythtv interface on mythbuntu?19:41
lagacandrews: are you talking about mythfrontend?19:46
sabhainlaga, I need to disable the splash screen on the diskless boot to determine where it is hanging .. am I correct to change the languange in pxelinux.cfg/default?19:46
candrewslaga right, on mythbuntu, what starts mythfrontend?19:46
lagasabhain: language? remove "splash quiet"19:48
lagaor add "nosplash"19:48
lagacandrews: gdm and xfce19:48
lagaAFAIR19:48
candrewsah gdm does it. i should have guessed that!19:49
lagaGDM starts the X session which starts the frontend19:49
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sabhainlaga, is that in the right file: pxelinux.cfg/default?20:56
lagasabhain: it's a relative path.20:56
sabhain/opt/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg?20:59
lagait's in /var/lib/tftpboot/.. but it gets overwritten every time you run ltsp-update-kernels IIRC21:00
lagait's been a while21:00
hadsYeah, that's right21:00
sabhainthanks .. I feel that I'm on the brink of getting the diskless setup running .. but it's dumping me to an initramfs prompt after a few seconds of the splash and a black screen w/ cursor21:03
sabhainwith full notes / documentation of the process to follow swiftly thereafter of course21:04
lagathat'd be appreciated21:05
sabhainon a related note .. what is supposed to be the owner of the pxelinux.0 stuff in tftboot?  Root?  Mythtv?21:05
lagaroot probably, or nobody21:06
hadsYeah root21:06
hadsThat's what you're running update-ltsp-* as21:07
lagahads: scary that you know that stuff better than i do :)21:07
hadsI'm sure I don't, I just spent a bit of time messing around with it :)21:08
sabhainok .. because i needed to chown it to nobody before the PXE boot would go.  With it set to root, it would come back as "permission denied" .21:08
sabhainI was trying lots of stuff at the time, so I'll go back and retry on a clean install after it all worked, but I had a heck of a time getting the PXE thing going .. and that was somewhat of a factor in my setup21:08
hadsInteresting, mines all root.21:08
sabhainhads, any issues in running chroot where it returns an error that group name isn't found?  On my backend the mythtv group is 124, but on the diskless image it's 115 .. does that matter?21:12
hadsShouldn't matter AFAIK, once you have chroot then your shell doesn't care about the parent systems users.21:14
Buster_Hymenhi, i'm wondering how i can get a program to auto-start when the system boots.  The sessions manager doesn't seem to have those options like in gnome21:18
Buster_Hymenany ideas?21:19

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