[00:42] <Anusien> !help
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[00:42] <Anusien> !help samba
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[00:42] <Anusien> !samba
[00:42] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about samba
[02:15] <fuxxy> What's the difference between the "Desktop" and "Alternate" x64 images?
[02:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> alternate is the text based installer
[02:19] <rhpot1991_laptop> use the desktop unless you have a reason otherwise
[02:19] <fuxxy> rhpot1991_laptop, ok, thanks.
[03:47] <twitchnln> greetings
[03:50] <twitchnln> i would like to implement "remote passthru" to allow me to use my crapcast on demand via my frontend, i already have the blaster working on the backend.. how difficult would it be to have the frontend relay the crapcast remote to the blaster?
[03:52] <hads> How would you differentiate what you want to send to myth and what you want to send to your STB?
[03:52] <hads> Or do you have seperate remotes?
[03:54] <twitchnln> i put my stb in a different room with the backend
[03:55] <twitchnln> i'm actually trying to figure out how i can pass my comcrap remote thru to the backend so i can take advantage of on demand
[03:56] <hads> Yes I gathered that from when you said 'i would like to implement "remote passthru" to allow me to use my crapcast on demand via my frontend'
[03:56] <hads> THen I said "How would you differentiate what you want to send to myth and what you want to send to your STB?"
[03:56] <twitchnln> sorry... yes seperate remotes
[03:56] <hads> :)
[03:57] <twitchnln> burned out here...
[03:58] <hads> I don't think there is a way to do it from within myth at all.
[03:58] <hads> You would probably be able to do it with a bit of hacking though.
[03:59] <twitchnln> yeah, thats what i figured...
[03:59] <twitchnln> i was just hoping to get around cat'ing the buttons on the comcast remote and putting them into the lirc conf file
[03:59] <hads> I know lirc has some network stuff built in but I've not used it so don't know if it will do that.
[04:00] <twitchnln> i was unaware that lirc was network aware
[04:01] <hads> Yeah; http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html
[04:07] <twitchnln> if i set it up client/server like that, wouldn't everything be piped out the server? including the remote that changes the frontend? or would myth still catch that?
[04:10] <hads> As I said I've not tried it.
[04:10] <rhpot1991_laptop> perhaps you can have irexec execute some sort of blaster script
[04:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> video delay is gonna kill you though
[04:11] <rhpot1991_laptop> just get netflix, its easier
[04:11] <twitchnln> yeah.... i know
[04:11] <hads> Yeah, that's probably what I would do, irexec a script via the network to the backend where it does an irsend. I thought lirc may have something built in though.
[04:12]  * rhpot1991_laptop gets bluefish to pretend asp is html, and is happy about it
[04:12] <rhpot1991_laptop> doing that would work to get you on the on demand, but its gonna be a pain to navigate with the delay
[04:13] <hads> Oh for sure.
[04:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> IMO you'd be better off trying firewire and having the box hooked up to a TV, my STBs will pump video to firewire and hdmi at the same time
[04:13] <rhpot1991_laptop> then you can navigate get your video ready and do a manual record
[04:13] <hads> I have a script that does a couple of things for when silly Sky bring up parental lock screens etc.
[04:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> provided you can get the channel with firewire
[04:14] <twitchnln> my box is the most low budget stb i've ever seen... it's near as small as the modem
[04:14] <rhpot1991_laptop> I generally get fed up with sillyness and just find it on netflix, encryption on dvds are much easier to work with than encryption on stbs
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> twitchnln: ah, those are old and don't have firewire cause they are SD only
[04:15] <twitchnln> correct
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> you can upgrade to HD and get a good one
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> or yell at them and tell them they are required by FCC to provide you with firewire for OTA channels
[04:15] <rhpot1991_laptop> good luck with that :)
[04:16] <rhpot1991_laptop> my comcast treats me like I am a terrorist when I ask for a specific STB
[04:16] <twitchnln> slave tuner... i have a one hd box already, on pinnacle i800... then i have the sd box plugged to pvr350.. and analog to pvr150
[04:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> the motorolla boxes generally work well with firewire
[04:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> if you get one that was made in the firewire age
[04:17] <rhpot1991_laptop> but encryption is hit or miss depending on your area
[04:18] <rhpot1991_laptop> I think the ones capable of HD are more to rent as well though, I am pretty sure you could just request a HD box and say you don't want to pay anymore for any new channels
[04:21]  * rhpot1991_laptop goes to make some more tea
[04:22] <fuxxy> I've never done wifi with linux before, I'm planning on trying this out real quick as a livecd frontend.. How would I get wireless networking working?
[04:23] <hads> I'm not sure if mythbuntu has network manager by default, I assume so. Boot it up and see what happens
[04:24] <fuxxy> Will it boot into the frontend, or a desktop?
[04:24] <Chaorain> I'm having some problems with my tv tunner
[04:24] <fuxxy> Chaorain, have you tried kicking it?
[04:25] <Chaorain> it has bad sound on analog and does not work on digital
[04:25] <Chaorain> lol
[04:25] <fuxxy> What card is it?
[04:25] <Chaorain> http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_(800i)
[04:26] <fuxxy> Chaorain, what kernel version?
[04:26] <Chaorain> I installed the firmware and the v4l-dvb too
[04:26] <Chaorain> um
[04:26] <fuxxy> Chaorain, uname -a
[04:26] <Chaorain> Is there a way to minimise mythtv dvd rip?
[04:27] <Chaorain> nvm
[04:27] <twitchnln> back usually works or esc on kb
[04:27] <fuxxy> Chaorain, doubt it, I just log in using ssh
[04:27] <fuxxy> Chaorain, how much was the card? It seems interesting.
[04:28] <hads> fuxxy: Not used the live disk, I think XFCE
[04:28] <Chaorain> 2.6.27-9-generic
[04:28] <Chaorain> it was a while ago I think $80
[04:29] <fuxxy> rebooting
[04:33] <rhpot1991_laptop> Chaorain: you can exit it and it keeps running
[04:34] <Chaorain> oh right thats the backend not the front end
[04:34] <Chaorain> thats cool
[04:35] <hads> Na it's frontend
[04:35] <Chaorain> I ment the process of riping is backend
[04:35] <hads> It's not :)
[04:40] <Chaorain> so does anyone know whats wrong?
[04:49] <sabhain> !chroot
[04:49] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about chroot
[05:27] <z4chh> i recently installed a haupaugge pvr-150 after a mythbuntu installation...the probe of the card detected it fine and seemed to load everything (drivers and device creation)..but when i go into mythtv Tv->system settings, i see "Tuner 1 [MPEG: /dev/video0] is unavailable"
[12:54] <slaine_> Hey guys
[12:54] <slaine_> I've got an 8.04 Mythbuntu setup on a Via CLE266 based box with a PVR-500 analogue card for tv capture. Any issues likely for me with an Upgrade to 8.10 ?
[16:17] <Guest68008> hi all my tv is capable of doing 1360 x 768 but when i try and set it to that res it fails
[16:50] <sabhain> anyone ever see this chroot error: "id: cannot find name for group ID 124" .. .? Trying to chroot into diskless image.  Seems to be a permissions / ownership thing?
[17:12] <sabhain> Ok .. so I think maybe I'm stumbling onto something.  In my core backend, the mythtv group is #124.  In the i386 image, it is 115 .. could it be that the groups mismatch is causing a problem?
[17:22] <sabhain> but if I edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/group to match (just making the mythtv group  = 124), it let's me in the chroot.
[17:28] <sabhain> or maybe I was in all along? .. I'm confused ..
[18:03] <neofax> I upgraded my system and decided to use the alpha1 version of Jaunty Mythbuntu.  Now I cannot record on the first tuner of my PVR-500.
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> !logs | neofax
[18:06] <Zinn> neofax: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/
[18:06] <tgm4883_laptop> !pastebin | neofax
[18:06] <Zinn> neofax: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[18:08] <neofax> Here is my backend log: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7eedb914
[18:10] <neofax> I have not used the frontend yet on the mythbuntu server.  I pretty much just use my other system to connect to the backend.
[18:10] <tgm4883_laptop> neofax, post some logs using mythbuntu-log-grabber
[18:11] <neofax> Can I do that from the pc I am at now using the mythfrontend?
[18:11] <tgm4883_laptop> no, from the backend
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> I want more logs from the backend
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> You might be able to do it from another computer over ssh
[18:13] <neofax> The previous pastebin is from the server backend which I sshed into.  I will go to the system itself and send the link. brb
[18:15] <tgm4883_laptop> neofax, I got the link, I just want more logs.  MLogG will give me the relevent info I think
[18:15] <tgm4883_laptop> !logs
[18:15] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use Mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[18:16] <neofax> Here is the new log pastebin: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f3ad4d2f5
[18:20] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, I'm not seeing anything wrong in these logs :(
[18:21] <tgm4883_laptop> is mythweb still showing both tuners?
[18:21] <neofax> Mythweb allows me to select either tuner, but for some reason tuner1 raises a conflict.
[18:23] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm, lets see the logs from your frontend machine
[18:23] <neofax> I think this may have to do with the similar problem I had before where my cx88 tuner card would change /dev/videoX positions on each reboot.  However, I did not have that problem on mythbuntu 8.04.
[18:23] <neofax> Here are the frontend logs:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f1c614586
[18:25] <tgm4883_laptop> very odd.  I'd try readding the tuners in mythtv-setup
[18:26] <neofax> Is there a way to add in the modules file to force the cx88 card to say /dev/video2?
[18:28] <neofax> Found it!  Just ned to add options cx8800 video_nr=2 and it should work.  Then I can reboot and re-run mythtv-setup and that should fix it.
[18:32] <neofax> Thanks for the help!  Now just to figure out how to add the wether maps for my area, Philadelphia, to mythweb and the frontends.
[18:56] <richard1901> hi all
[18:56] <jphillip> I hope you are 107 years old
[18:57] <richard1901> can any onr tell me hoe i can change my monitor settings is there an app or somthing
[18:57] <richard1901> nearly 1008
[18:57] <jphillip> heh
[18:57] <richard1901> errr 1008
[18:57] <richard1901> dAMIT SEE SO OLD CAN'T TYPE
[18:57] <richard1901> see
[18:58] <jphillip> richard1901 nvidia/ati/something else?
[18:58] <richard1901> nvidia but the settings manager fails to set correct res
[18:58] <richard1901> trying to get 1360x768
[18:59] <richard1901> i think it hasn't got my monitor setup correctly
[18:59] <richard1901> how do i change settings
[18:59] <jphillip> let me dig for a minute
[18:59] <jphillip> !pastebin
[18:59] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[18:59] <richard1901> k cheers
[19:00] <richard1901> sorry
[19:02] <jphillip> richard1901 http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m70dbd84d
[19:02] <jphillip> you will have to do research on your tv, but I get 1360x768 with this
[19:03] <jphillip> in theory it should be able to auto detect, but some TVs don't send the propper EDID info and sometimes some vga cable don't transmit it correctly either
[19:03] <richard1901> will it break if i use your xorg.conf?
[19:03] <jphillip> this is the big thing you need: Option          "ModeValidation"        "NoWidthAlignmentCheck"# Important!!! need this option to use nvidia card at 1366 x 768
[19:03] <jphillip> richard1901 I would back your current one up first
[19:03] <jphillip> then start picking pieces of mine and plugging them in
[19:03] <richard1901> cheers
[19:04] <tgm4883_laptop> IIRC, using someone elses modeline isn't a good idea
[19:06] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop well if he just gets rid of the width validation it may all fall into place, the problem is that 1366x768 isn't a standard res
[19:06] <jphillip> so it gets rejected then xorg defaults to 1024x768 or something
[19:07] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[19:22] <neofax> For the 1360x768 resolution, there is no need for the modeline or the mode validation.  Just set the UseEdid to false and you may want to force the dpi to 96.  I currently run this on my 40" Samsung LCD TV as that is the intended resolution for this LCD.
[19:23] <neofax> Here is my Xorg.conf file:  http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d7e65fd90
[19:24] <jphillip> neofax your sammy should do EDID well
[19:24] <jphillip> mine does
[19:25] <jphillip> also you want dpi 100x100 for mythtv
[19:26] <jphillip> and you are 1360x768, the screen res for a lot of tv's is actually 1366x768 which is where the problems come from
[19:26] <jphillip> but yes, going with 1360x768 is easier to work with if you don't want to hack up your xorg
[19:26] <neofax> 1360x768 is what he asked for.
[19:27] <jphillip> neofax you are right, my appologies
[19:28] <jphillip> I'd still say to check the manufacturers info on the TV as I've seen most of them at 1366
[19:41] <candrews> what init script starts the mythtv interface on mythbuntu?
[19:46] <laga> candrews: are you talking about mythfrontend?
[19:46] <sabhain> laga, I need to disable the splash screen on the diskless boot to determine where it is hanging .. am I correct to change the languange in pxelinux.cfg/default?
[19:46] <candrews> laga right, on mythbuntu, what starts mythfrontend?
[19:48] <laga> sabhain: language? remove "splash quiet"
[19:48] <laga> or add "nosplash"
[19:48] <laga> candrews: gdm and xfce
[19:48] <laga> AFAIR
[19:49] <candrews> ah gdm does it. i should have guessed that!
[19:49] <laga> GDM starts the X session which starts the frontend
[20:56] <sabhain> laga, is that in the right file: pxelinux.cfg/default?
[20:56] <laga> sabhain: it's a relative path.
[20:59] <sabhain> /opt/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg?
[21:00] <laga> it's in /var/lib/tftpboot/.. but it gets overwritten every time you run ltsp-update-kernels IIRC
[21:00] <laga> it's been a while
[21:00] <hads> Yeah, that's right
[21:03] <sabhain> thanks .. I feel that I'm on the brink of getting the diskless setup running .. but it's dumping me to an initramfs prompt after a few seconds of the splash and a black screen w/ cursor
[21:04] <sabhain> with full notes / documentation of the process to follow swiftly thereafter of course
[21:05] <laga> that'd be appreciated
[21:05] <sabhain> on a related note .. what is supposed to be the owner of the pxelinux.0 stuff in tftboot?  Root?  Mythtv?
[21:06] <laga> root probably, or nobody
[21:06] <hads> Yeah root
[21:07] <hads> That's what you're running update-ltsp-* as
[21:07] <laga> hads: scary that you know that stuff better than i do :)
[21:08] <hads> I'm sure I don't, I just spent a bit of time messing around with it :)
[21:08] <sabhain> ok .. because i needed to chown it to nobody before the PXE boot would go.  With it set to root, it would come back as "permission denied" .
[21:08] <sabhain> I was trying lots of stuff at the time, so I'll go back and retry on a clean install after it all worked, but I had a heck of a time getting the PXE thing going .. and that was somewhat of a factor in my setup
[21:08] <hads> Interesting, mines all root.
[21:12] <sabhain> hads, any issues in running chroot where it returns an error that group name isn't found?  On my backend the mythtv group is 124, but on the diskless image it's 115 .. does that matter?
[21:14] <hads> Shouldn't matter AFAIK, once you have chroot then your shell doesn't care about the parent systems users.
[21:18] <Buster_Hymen> hi, i'm wondering how i can get a program to auto-start when the system boots.  The sessions manager doesn't seem to have those options like in gnome
[21:19] <Buster_Hymen> any ideas?