[00:09] <badawi> what's the linux-virtual package? how is it different from linux-server? doesn't linux-server kernel have the xen support?
[00:10] <ivoks> linux-virtual is for guest operating systems
[00:11] <ivoks> so, if you ubuntu runs in vmware, use linux-virtual
[00:11] <ivoks> s/you/your
[00:11] <badawi> ahh i see
[00:11] <badawi> ivoks: thanks
[00:12] <ivoks> np
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Clearly I don't understand Avahi...
[07:10] <Lokin> Can someone help me set up my web server? Got a domain name and DNS A record set, also port forwarded :80 But it still doesn't work
[07:26] <Lokin> anyone?
[09:40] <Gargoyle> mornin all
[09:46] <_ruben> mornin
[11:15] <Scare|Working> Hi all
[15:55] <dsandage> can anyone help me with a postifix issue?
[15:55] <dsandage> postfix, sorry
[15:57] <ScottK> dsandage: What issue?
[15:58] <dsandage> ah... ill give you the err as seen in /var/log/mail.err
[15:59] <dsandage> fatal: parameter smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout: bad time value or unit: 3600a
[16:00] <ScottK> dsandage: Please pastebin the output of postconf -n
[16:00] <_ruben> 3600a is most likely a typo for 3600s
[16:00] <ScottK> Probably.
[16:01] <dsandage> it ends a
[16:01] <dsandage> but ill go find the output of postconf here in a minute
[16:03] <dsandage> ill have to return
[16:07] <dsandage> AHHH!
[16:07] <dsandage> I see what you mean I think the line with the cache_timeout reads 3600a but should read 3600s
[16:12] <ScottK> 3600s is the default anyway, so there's no need to specify it.
[16:13] <dsandage> at the end of setting up postfix it tells me to telnet into the "mail.example.com" on port 25, I telnet into my mailserver at port 25 but I don't see the lines that the documentation suggests
[16:13] <dsandage> it doesn't do anything actualy
[16:13] <dsandage> it has you type "ehlo mail.example.com"
[16:14] <dsandage> I get nothing when plugging in ehlo and my server name
[16:19] <dsandage> any thoughts?
[17:11] <ball> Daviey: so what's the server-side news?
[17:15] <ball> hello EtienneG_laptop
[17:18] <EtienneG_laptop> hello ball, but who are you?
[17:21] <Daviey> ball: talking about puppet right now
[17:27] <ball> Daviey: remote control?
[17:28] <ball> EtienneG_laptop: nobody of importance, happily :-)
[17:29] <EtienneG_laptop> ball, ok, greeting nonetheless!  :)
[17:31] <ball> Daviey: screen with the status bar would break compatibility with actual teletypes though.
[17:31] <ball> (and perhaps hamper logging)
[17:32] <ivoks> ball: thing about it as a 'special multipourpuse ubuntu maintainance shell'
[17:32] <ivoks> not a replacement for screen
[17:32] <ivoks> or shell
[17:32] <Daviey> ball: just an idea at the moment
[17:32] <ball> Daviey: I hope it gets shot down in flames, or at least made optional (perhaps a program that you can choose to launch once you log in)
[17:33] <ivoks> it won't be default, of course
[17:33] <ball> Oh good!
[17:34] <Daviey> i said it's reinventing zsh (hi jpds)
[17:35] <jpds> Daviey: o/
[17:35]  * ball isn't familiar with zsh
[17:35] <ball> Is that a Bourne derivative?
[17:35] <ball> hey, it's lunch time!
[17:35] <ivoks> zsh supports multerminal interface?
[17:35] <Daviey> !zsh
[17:35] <Daviey> :(
[17:35] <ivoks> zsh is a shell
[17:35] <ball> !lunch
[17:35] <Daviey> jpds: please fix :)
[17:36] <jpds> !info zsh
[17:36] <jpds> Daviey: Still use my .zshrc?
[17:37] <Daviey> jpds: not since i reinstalled
[17:37] <Daviey> :(
[17:37] <Daviey> jpds: can you give it to me again?
[17:37] <Daviey> it's backed up at home, would be nice to have here :)
[17:37] <jpds> Yeah, I have it here - just don't have anywhere to dump it at.
[17:37] <Daviey> email?
[17:38] <jpds> Daviey: Sent.
[17:39] <Daviey> winner \o/
[17:42] <Daviey> afk
[19:41] <Fenix|work> Greetings
[19:41] <Fenix|work> a Jr. admin of mine accidentally ran chmod on / with the permissions 770
[19:41] <Fenix|work> now no user can log in... any quick fix? :)
[19:42] <sommer> chmod -R 755 /home/
[19:42] <sommer> err no -R, sorry
[19:46] <maswan> ehm. if it wasn't recursive, just chmod the / dir back to 755
[19:46] <maswan> if it was recursive, you're out of luck
[19:55] <Fenix|work> it was recursive
[20:10] <nrpil> hi people
[20:10] <nrpil> any kvm users here ?
[20:14] <chimp> If you accidently send shutdown now without -r on it, is there a way to make the server come back to life (i haven't done this)
[20:18] <Deeps> if it has WOL you might be able to magic packet it, assuming you ahve another machine on the same subnet to send from
[20:37] <soren> chimp: I'd advise you to take a look at molly-guard at any rate..
[20:37] <soren> It wraps reboot, shutdown and halt, checks if you're logged in remotely and asks you to enter the name of the machine you think you're shutting down.
[20:38] <soren> That way, you don't accidentally shut down a remote machine.
[20:38] <soren> For local logins, it doesn't do anything. Only remote logins.
[20:39] <tonyyarusso> btw, why is it called molly-guard?  Who is this molly?
[20:42] <tonyyarusso> Meanwhile, is there anyone who understands dnsmasq and avahi?  Technically I think the changes I need to make are on my router running DD-WRT, but if someone knows about those applications here that might be enough to figure it out.  (Issue explained at http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=238861#238861)
[20:46] <Fenix|work> ok... I need some advice
[20:46] <chimp> soren: That sounds great, I was thinking of doing alias' but that seems better
[20:47] <Fenix|work> my jr adm screwed up the permissions royally on this and two other boxes that were NFSed to this one... if I use apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ... how badly is it going to mess up my current config?
[20:48] <soren> He managed to uninstall ubuntu-minimal?
[20:49] <hads> I believe it was a chmod -R /
[20:49] <Fenix|work> soren, no... he managed to run the following --- find . -type d -exec sudo chmod 770 {} \;
[20:50] <soren> Fenix|work: apt-get installing ubuntu-minimal is not going to help that.
[20:50] <Fenix|work> I was thinking it may fix permissions
[20:51] <hads> Good time to test your backups :)
[20:52] <Fenix|work> hads, would be if this thing would even boot :)
[20:52] <Fenix|work> my backups are all on tape
[20:52] <hads> Your backups rely on the server being going?
[20:53] <Fenix|work> yes...
[20:53] <Fenix|work> ... even if it were a brand new install... which takes no time with ubuntu, I need a live server to restore to
[20:53] <Fenix|work> and my restore will restore everything to just the way it were
[20:54] <Fenix|work> although I had just started on experimenting with making live cd's of my installs... I hadn't finished in my vm environment
[20:59] <Fenix|work> soren, is it safe to say that all directories outside of var should be permed at 755?
[21:01] <Nafallo> hrm
[21:01] <ivoks> no
[21:02] <Nafallo> I'm doing it wrong.
[21:02]  * Fenix|work smacks his forehead ... /bin = 660 ... everything
[21:02] <Nafallo> this virtual machine should not use on of the hosts IPs externally...
[21:02] <Nafallo> one even
[21:49] <Lamo> I set up a Hardy web server and am having trouble getting my .htaccess file working. I created a .htaccess file in ~/public_html that looks like http://nopaste.com/p/aDsE6kD2M and used htpasswd -c /etc/apache2/passwords to create the file passwords. yet I am still able to load the page without being prompted for a usr/pass?
[21:54] <jmarsden|work> Lamo: check permissions on the .htaccess file, and then restart your web server and retest?
[21:54] <Lamo> 644
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> also, check that .htaccess is enabled in your apache config - I don't think it is by default
[21:58] <Lamo> that's apache2.conf?
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> I think it's in sites-available/default actually
[21:59] <Nafallo> Lamo: rather enable the correct modules with a2enmod
[21:59] <tonyyarusso> The option's called AllowOverride
[22:00] <Nafallo> Lamo: that will load in the correct options and enable the module.
[22:00]  * tonyyarusso defers
[22:02] <Lamo> I ran a2enmod and it gives me many choices but I don't see AllowOverRide in there
[22:05] <drate> What am I missing:  I am trying to setup postfix per the documentation for Ubuntu Server 8.10, here is a pastebin of my postconf -n followed by a link of the step at which I encounter an issue:
[22:05] <drate> http://pastebin.com/d283b6664     https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/postfix.html#postfix-testing
[22:06] <drate> The expected behavior is shown in the second link, the actual behavior is the computer equivilant of a blank stare.
[22:06] <Lamo> aha
[22:07] <Lamo> needed to change none to all in my default config
[22:07] <Lamo> like you were saying
[22:07] <Lamo> thanks
[22:07] <lamont> drate: I'm going to guess that is a modified output of postconf -n and that you've tweaked anything like hostnames and IPs, which may or may not be of significance... .what does /var/log/mail.log have to say on the subject?
[22:07] <lamont> and anyway, about to run off for the evening, myself
[22:08] <Lamo> where do I find my server error log?
[22:08] <drate> you are correct, I am doing this for my place of business so I figured certaind details should be masked... I'll go get what you asked for
[22:08] <DBAmethyst> ok I got a DL360 and I just installed 8.04.1 server.  Bios shows up both P3 1.266 procs yet a cat /proc/cpuinfo only shows up one
[22:08] <DBAmethyst> how can I change this
[22:10] <Fenix|work> I'm trying to run chroot from the livecd and I'm getting the following: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[22:10] <Fenix|work> I'm logged in as root (as I've sudo bash, and then passwd
[22:12] <Fenix|work> any ideas?
[22:15] <drate> http://pastebin.com/d7a4b5be1   http://pastebin.com/d660e5f54
[22:15] <drate> there are cats of mail.log and mail.err respectively
[22:18] <drate> lamont  I think I do see something I might can track down myself but another that I cannot
[22:19] <drate> the SASL can't connect to  private auth/client no such file or directory I might can trace
[22:19] <drate> but the no sasl mechanisms I cannot
[22:19] <drate> lamont: do you think they are related?
[22:23] <drate> lamont: correction I am completely confused, it is in the /etc/postfix/main.conf exactly as indicated by the documentation
[22:46] <ScottK> I guess he left.
[22:47] <ScottK> If he turns up again, he should look in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf