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Meeso_OShmm01:40
Meeso_OSwhenI turn off xubuntu, it goes to some black and white prompt thingy01:40
Meeso_OSsome errors show up01:40
Meeso_OSpertaining to the wireless access01:40
Meeso_OShow do I fix this?01:40
Meeso_OSI tihnk it has to do with me not being able to connect to my wireless access point01:41
Meeso_OSI installed it on the same comp01:41
Meeso_OSwith wubi01:41
Meeso_OSand it worked fine01:41
Meeso_OSI wiped the drive, installed linux on the whole drive01:41
Meeso_OSand it wont connect01:41
Meeso_OS:/01:41
Meeso_OShalps :D01:41
Meeso_OS when I turn off xubuntu, it goes to some black and white prompt thingy some errors show up pertaining to the wireless access how do I fix this? I tihnk it has to do with me not being able to connect to my wireless access point I installed it on the same comp with wubi and it worked fine. I wiped the drive, installed linux on the whole drive and it wont connect01:48
Meeso_OSI can has halpz?01:48
tetsuo9hello02:29
tetsuo9i am having a hell of a time trying to set up sound in Xubuntu02:29
tetsuo9google turned up some resources on this topic, but they all seem to mention messing with "System > Preferences > Sound", and I don't even know where 'System' is (nothing appropriate in the Applications menu, or on any toolbar).02:31
tetsuo9does anyone know any other good resources that might help me?02:31
charlie-tcaUse alsamixer to unmute and turn up volumes02:31
charlie-tcaIf it is not installed, install using synaptic02:32
tetsuo9thank you. i will try that02:34
charlie-tcaHope it works. :-)02:35
tetsuo9would it be wise to turn the volume up on all channels to 100%?02:36
charlie-tcaI did, then I could control it with the panel volume control.02:36
tetsuo9i have no volume control on any panel.02:37
charlie-tcaRight click on a blank spot, Add New Item, Volume Control. It works after you set up with alsamixer02:38
tetsuo9thank you again : )02:42
tetsuo9it all works!  wonderful!02:45
tetsuo9thank you! and good night02:45
Picipleia2: Now I know :)03:16
pleia2:)03:16
Metatronthe xubuntu live cd saw my wireless network...installed to hard drive and now it doesnt see it...whats up?04:13
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Edgarhello everyone04:51
EdgarI have ubuntu with gnome by default04:51
Edgarand I installed kde by typing kde-core in the terminal04:52
Edgarwhat I have to type for download the Xfce's core04:52
Edgar??04:52
Edgarnow, I'm downloading the Xfce, by the command apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:53
Metatronbeen kinda quiet in here edgar04:53
Edgaryes I have noticed it04:54
Metatronive been out of loop too long to help, im stuck with a wifi problem, xubuntu live cd boot should wireless, after install to hard drive no wireless...pain in the router04:54
Metatronshowed that is, not should04:54
Edgarit seems that there is no community support at these hours04:55
Metatronu trying to downgrade xubuntu to something lighter?04:56
Metatrondowngrade isn right word04:56
EdgarI'm not downgrading04:56
EdgarI'm just want to download the core to test it04:57
Metatroni c04:57
Edgarfor download the kde core I just type kde-core04:57
Metatroncant u find xfce in symantic04:57
Edgarmmmm it should, I just wanted to type the command04:58
Edgaranyway, I don't find it in symantic04:59
Metatrontrying to think05:00
Metatronim in xp atm05:00
Edgarhehe05:00
Edgarok, yea, sometimes I need to use xp too05:00
Metatronsudo apt-cache search xfce05:00
Metatronshould list packages with xfce in it05:02
Edgarok05:02
Metatroni think hehe05:02
Metatroni dont think xubuntu is gonna do it for me on target box, its OLD05:02
Edgarwell that should work, but it's ok now I have already downloaded the xubuntu-desktop05:03
Metatronbut im trying to revive its ANCIENT tv tuner card, no luck in other distro's, but xubuntu is gonna be too slow, back to puppy, tinyme or zenwalk05:03
Edgarso you don't like the xubuntu?05:03
Metatronits ok, i just have a realy old box05:03
Metatronnot up to it05:03
Metatronthe biggest plus on all ubuntu flavors is the repository, best selection of stuff, best dependancy checking05:06
Metatroni once installed ubuntu as a text/console only and tried icewm fluxbox xfce rox-filer anb ran fast on old box, just too hard to configure05:07
Edgarxfce looks like a copy of gnome05:10
Edgarit's almost the same but...gnome it's kinda of superior05:11
Metatronits much faster, gnome has alot more guts to it05:11
Metatronrealy its the panels that make it loot the same05:12
Metatronlook05:12
Edgarwell yes it's faster but gnome looks better I mean smoother05:12
Metatrongnome has more shading and transparecy stuff05:12
Edgaryes, that's what I mean05:13
Metatroni like the xfce file manager over thunar or whatever its called nowadays, its like explore in xp sorta05:13
Edgarwhat advantages has xfce over gnome? besides the performance05:14
Metatronperformance05:15
Metatronabout it05:15
Edgarsomething else?05:16
Metatronxfce might be easier to tweak05:16
Metatroncustomize i mean, but u got a learning curve05:16
Metatronright click menus are more customizable in xfce if i remember correctly05:17
Edgarso for you, which is better for u gnome or xfce?05:19
Metatrongnome if i got horsepower, xfce on slower box05:19
Edgarok05:19
Edgardo u like the kde?05:19
Metatronabit better at performance than gnome, some nice apps forit05:20
Metatrongnome is used more thus there is alot of infor availble for it, lots of ppl banging on it05:20
Edgarok05:20
Metatronif performance isnt an isssue gnome is fine, if performace is an isssue, fluxbox, icewm, rox-filer, jwm or some combination there of05:21
Edgarok05:23
Edgarwell, it's cool that xfce have a theme similar to the gnome human theme05:28
Edgarit seems that xfce is kinda of abandoned, becouse the last version was released in 2007 :s05:39
Edgar:-/05:39
Metatronnot abandoned, just slower develeopment05:40
Metatronalot less ppl working on it05:40
Edgarwhy is that?05:40
Metatrongnome is used in oodles of distro's05:40
Metatronmore ppl in the community to work on it05:40
Edgarook05:41
Edgarbut the people that develop gnome or xfce, does they make money?05:41
EdgarI mean the softwares is free05:42
EdgarI guess that people who works in free software doesn't live of making free software05:43
Metatronyup05:43
Metatronthough some of the distro's that use gnome do have commercial interests05:43
Metatroneven ubuntu has a commercial sponser05:44
Metatronthus more support for gnome05:44
Edgarwith the free software, people can make money with commercial support or sponsored services05:47
Metatronyeah05:47
Edgarwith the services can make money, but with the product can't05:48
dnyyEverytime I open this file and edit it, then try and save, it says It can not open file to save.  Why? :(06:14
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knomednyy, what file is it?06:34
dnyy.conkyForecast06:35
dnyyI opened it through sudo thunar and it worked, though.06:35
dnyyIt lets me edit other hidden files, so I have no idea why it wouldn't on that one. :/06:35
knomei suppose it has such permissions you can edit it only with root/sudo06:36
zoredachednyy: Perhaps you don't have rights to edit the file because it owned by seomeone else06:36
dnyyErr, yeah.  For some reason it's owned by root.06:37
dnyyDidn't think to check that, sorry. ;o06:37
gaurdrois there a way to configure the options for a particular screensaver in intrepid?07:33
bitmous1I think I am having a problem with permissions, I have a minimal install with idesk as my desktop manager, unless I run it as root, it crashes every time I try to move an Icon, my icon files as well as their related files (.png's etc) are all within my personal home folder, any ideas?07:44
bitmous1hmm anybody know how to tell wine to open a command prompt and then run a program within that command prompt?07:55
gaurdrowine command.com?08:02
bitmous1anybody know where swiftfox keeps it's bookmarks etc for each user?09:00
generalsnuswe have a ltsp enviroment, and the ltsp servers(xubuntu) authenticates with M$ AD.  we would like to get USB drives to work for the clients..   It used to work on both servers..  now, this has stopped working on 1 of the servers..prolly after a update.. thing is.. we dont really remember how we got it to work the first time around..  So what config files are involved here?12:17
emkeyenhello12:55
emkeyeni have a problem12:55
emkeyeni'm running xubuntu 8.10 on a hp omnibook 610012:55
emkeyenbut it does not mount my floppy disk12:56
emkeyencan i do it manually?12:56
emkeyensudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy/ -t vfat13:02
emkeyenmount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist13:02
emkeyenand13:02
emkeyen$ sudo mount /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy/ -t vfat13:03
emkeyenmount: /dev/pts/0 is not a block device13:03
emkeyen???13:03
j_xinudsbemkeyen: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy13:03
emkeyenj_xinudsb: doesnt work. see error message above.13:04
emkeyenwhen i hot swap to cdrom it works13:06
viddemkeyen, what exactly are you trying to do?13:07
j_xinudsbemkeyen: yeah ubuntu does not set /dev/fd0 as a automuntable device so it must be u-mounted before removing13:07
emkeyenaha13:08
j_xinudsbemkeyen: try /dev/fd0  /media/floppy0  auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8   0    0 in your fstab13:10
j_xinudsbnote auto13:11
emkeyen mount /dev/fd013:14
emkeyenmount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist13:14
viddemkeyen, is this a usb floppy, or a standard floppy?13:15
emkeyenhotswappable standard floppy on laptop13:15
viddemkeyen, then it will not mount as /dev/fd013:16
viddcheck your thunar under /dev/ to see what devises are listed13:17
viddie what is the cdrom mounted as?13:17
emkeyenwhen i look at fstab i see cdrom listed as /dev/scd013:17
viddemkeyen, then when you hotswap the floppy, see if you can mount /dev/scd0 as /media/floppy13:18
viddyou might also try scd113:19
emkeyenhmm. weird. now i have no /dev/scd013:20
viddthe devices listed in thunar with an "X" icon are devices not connected.....13:20
vidditems with no "X" icon are found devices13:21
j_xinudsbor create a floppy device in dev/ to point to the cd drive as ln -s scd0 floppy013:21
j_xinudsb ln -s scd0 fd013:22
viddemkeyen, when you boot with the floppy in, your bios does detect it....right?13:23
emkeyenyes13:23
emkeyenit tries to boot from floppy13:23
viddtry booting with the floppy device in, and review the list of devices in /dev13:23
emkeyenok13:24
emkeyennow it does not mount cdrom any more either13:24
viddthis will let you know what linux is seeing the device as13:24
emkeyenok13:24
emkeyenthanks13:24
emkeyeni'll try and bbl13:24
vidddo you still have that /dev/fd0 in your fstab?13:24
emkeyencommented it out. should i have it?13:25
j_xinudsbahh yes otherwise ubuntu does not know how to and where to mount fd013:50
RurouniJonesHowdy all, is there anything that the alternate xubuntu install CD has that recommends it over the standard liv/install CD?14:09
gabkdllysmaller footprint14:11
RurouniJonesDon't suppose it has a utility to resize windows partitions on it?14:12
viddRurouniJones, of course it does14:13
RurouniJonesOn the live CD as well as the alternate?14:15
RurouniJonesNon-destructively resize windows partitions that is ;)14:15
j_xinudsbuse Debian if you need a smaller footprint14:18
j_xinudsband just dont install14:19
RurouniJonesfootprint isn't that important. lightweight GUI is the main one14:19
RurouniJonesThis is going to be a Granny OS installation14:19
j_xinudsbi use dream linux for small gui footprint14:20
j_xinudsbit is based on Debian too14:21
j_xinudsbbut i think xubuntu is light enough for most cases14:22
vynlwombatHello14:58
vynlwombatI have been trying to figure out how to run the LiveUSB system creator from an ISO of xubuntu alt ISO14:59
vynlwombatjsut can't figure it out, and i've been googling all night14:59
dbmHello there.19:10
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afallenhope|workhey I was wondering can I make a liveCD of my current setup?19:42
NDSdoes anyone know a bluetooth applet for the XFCE panels?19:49
Shaba1NDS you are trying to connnect a bluetooth headset to your computer?19:52
NDSwell, yes. among other things19:52
Shaba1not that I can help. I am just trying to figure out what you are doing19:53
NDSi just need an applet like the one available for GNOME, i find it to be the easiest to add new devices and browse files on my phone.19:53
OiPenguinnHow do I install xubuntu in text mode? I have the regular and the alternate 8.10 cd. Plus graphic driver issue.20:02
OiPenguinnI've figured out. I didn't know it was text only...20:04
afallenhope|workAnyone know how I can get my current setup  (I just installed like 5 things and custom scripts/programs) as a live CD?20:30
zoredachesorry?20:37
zoredachewhat do you mean get your current setup?20:37
knomei suppose he means a custom cd20:37
afallenhope|workWell I just installed Xubuntu, and I've installed like 5 applications and  a few of my custom scripts/programs. now I was wondering if I can turn that into a livecd20:38
afallenhope|workyou know like knoppix, slax, unbuntu,20:38
zoredachethe procedure for ubuntu should be the same for xubuntu20:39
zoredacheanywho, you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch20:40
Buster_Hymenhow do i acces autostarted programs in xfce?21:23
Kudihow do i make k3b burn mp3 files21:25
Buster_HymenKudi:  do you have the mp3 codecs installed?21:28
Kudiyah i can play mp3 fine21:28
Buster_Hymenoh. lol well it was a shot in the dark. i'm not sure then21:29
Kudihaha k thanks21:29
Shaba1Is there a good subversion client for xubuntu 8.04?21:39
ErantHmm, how do I set the initial boot resolution in xfce?21:46
ErantFor some reason, it keeps defaulting to either 640x480 or 800x600, and doesn't even show the 1024x768 resolution.21:47
ErantI can set it just fine with xrandr though :21:47
Erant:/21:47
ian___how do i install a persistent cpy of xubuntu on a usb drive22:02
ian___*copy22:03
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cody-somervilleEVERYONE: Shout out your most wanted features in Xubuntu!! :D22:34
cody-somerville:)22:36
Shaba1better documentation22:40
Shaba1and a good user forum22:40
cody-somervilleShaba1, we have ubuntuforums.com22:50
cody-somerville* http://ubuntuforums.org/22:50
Shaba1that is for ubuntu22:51
Shaba1not xubuntu22:51
cody-somervilleNo22:51
cody-somervilleIt is for both22:51
Shaba1My point is that there is enough difference that there needs to be a specific forum for xubuntu22:52
cody-somervilleNo, no there doesn't22:53
Shaba1ok your opinion cody-somerville22:53
Shaba1sheesh22:53
cody-somervilleThere is only like 66 packages different between Ubuntu and Xubuntu22:53
Shaba1the whole interface is differnt22:54
Shaba1you go into the ubuntu room and ask about something22:54
Shaba1and someone tells you to click here and choose this menu item22:54
cody-somervilleSure22:54
knomeShaba1, ok so you're talking about bad *xfce* documentation22:54
Shaba1well that does not exist in xubuntu and you are totally lost22:54
cody-somervillebut we don't need a separate forums22:54
cody-somervillejust separate space on the forum22:55
cody-somervilleand that exists22:55
Odd-rationalexfce4.6!23:00
cody-somerville:D23:03
Odd-rationalenetwork (samba) browsing in thunar!23:05
Shaba1that would have been nice in my former job23:19
Shaba1but now that I am only on my 2 computer home network its not a necessary thing23:20
skymebillxfce 4.6 add in 8.10?23:47
cody-somervilleXfce 4.6 will be in the next release, yup23:49
skymebill:-D23:50
knomeyes.23:57

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