[01:40] <Meeso_OS> hmm
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> whenI turn off xubuntu, it goes to some black and white prompt thingy
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> some errors show up
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> pertaining to the wireless access
[01:40] <Meeso_OS> how do I fix this?
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> I tihnk it has to do with me not being able to connect to my wireless access point
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> I installed it on the same comp
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> with wubi
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> and it worked fine
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> I wiped the drive, installed linux on the whole drive
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> and it wont connect
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> :/
[01:41] <Meeso_OS> halps :D
[01:48] <Meeso_OS>  when I turn off xubuntu, it goes to some black and white prompt thingy some errors show up pertaining to the wireless access how do I fix this? I tihnk it has to do with me not being able to connect to my wireless access point I installed it on the same comp with wubi and it worked fine. I wiped the drive, installed linux on the whole drive and it wont connect
[01:48] <Meeso_OS> I can has halpz?
[02:29] <tetsuo9> hello
[02:29] <tetsuo9> i am having a hell of a time trying to set up sound in Xubuntu
[02:31] <tetsuo9> google turned up some resources on this topic, but they all seem to mention messing with "System > Preferences > Sound", and I don't even know where 'System' is (nothing appropriate in the Applications menu, or on any toolbar).
[02:31] <tetsuo9> does anyone know any other good resources that might help me?
[02:31] <charlie-tca> Use alsamixer to unmute and turn up volumes
[02:32] <charlie-tca> If it is not installed, install using synaptic
[02:34] <tetsuo9> thank you. i will try that
[02:35] <charlie-tca> Hope it works. :-)
[02:36] <tetsuo9> would it be wise to turn the volume up on all channels to 100%?
[02:36] <charlie-tca> I did, then I could control it with the panel volume control.
[02:37] <tetsuo9> i have no volume control on any panel.
[02:38] <charlie-tca> Right click on a blank spot, Add New Item, Volume Control. It works after you set up with alsamixer
[02:42] <tetsuo9> thank you again : )
[02:45] <tetsuo9> it all works!  wonderful!
[02:45] <tetsuo9> thank you! and good night
[03:16] <Pici> pleia2: Now I know :)
[03:16] <pleia2> :)
[04:13] <Metatron> the xubuntu live cd saw my wireless network...installed to hard drive and now it doesnt see it...whats up?
[04:51] <Edgar> hello everyone
[04:51] <Edgar> I have ubuntu with gnome by default
[04:52] <Edgar> and I installed kde by typing kde-core in the terminal
[04:52] <Edgar> what I have to type for download the Xfce's core
[04:52] <Edgar> ??
[04:53] <Edgar> now, I'm downloading the Xfce, by the command apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <Metatron> been kinda quiet in here edgar
[04:54] <Edgar> yes I have noticed it
[04:54] <Metatron> ive been out of loop too long to help, im stuck with a wifi problem, xubuntu live cd boot should wireless, after install to hard drive no wireless...pain in the router
[04:54] <Metatron> showed that is, not should
[04:55] <Edgar> it seems that there is no community support at these hours
[04:56] <Metatron> u trying to downgrade xubuntu to something lighter?
[04:56] <Metatron> downgrade isn right word
[04:56] <Edgar> I'm not downgrading
[04:57] <Edgar> I'm just want to download the core to test it
[04:57] <Metatron> i c
[04:57] <Edgar> for download the kde core I just type kde-core
[04:57] <Metatron> cant u find xfce in symantic
[04:58] <Edgar> mmmm it should, I just wanted to type the command
[04:59] <Edgar> anyway, I don't find it in symantic
[05:00] <Metatron> trying to think
[05:00] <Metatron> im in xp atm
[05:00] <Edgar> hehe
[05:00] <Edgar> ok, yea, sometimes I need to use xp too
[05:00] <Metatron> sudo apt-cache search xfce
[05:02] <Metatron> should list packages with xfce in it
[05:02] <Edgar> ok
[05:02] <Metatron> i think hehe
[05:02] <Metatron> i dont think xubuntu is gonna do it for me on target box, its OLD
[05:03] <Edgar> well that should work, but it's ok now I have already downloaded the xubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <Metatron> but im trying to revive its ANCIENT tv tuner card, no luck in other distro's, but xubuntu is gonna be too slow, back to puppy, tinyme or zenwalk
[05:03] <Edgar> so you don't like the xubuntu?
[05:03] <Metatron> its ok, i just have a realy old box
[05:03] <Metatron> not up to it
[05:06] <Metatron> the biggest plus on all ubuntu flavors is the repository, best selection of stuff, best dependancy checking
[05:07] <Metatron> i once installed ubuntu as a text/console only and tried icewm fluxbox xfce rox-filer anb ran fast on old box, just too hard to configure
[05:10] <Edgar> xfce looks like a copy of gnome
[05:11] <Edgar> it's almost the same but...gnome it's kinda of superior
[05:11] <Metatron> its much faster, gnome has alot more guts to it
[05:12] <Metatron> realy its the panels that make it loot the same
[05:12] <Metatron> look
[05:12] <Edgar> well yes it's faster but gnome looks better I mean smoother
[05:12] <Metatron> gnome has more shading and transparecy stuff
[05:13] <Edgar> yes, that's what I mean
[05:13] <Metatron> i like the xfce file manager over thunar or whatever its called nowadays, its like explore in xp sorta
[05:14] <Edgar> what advantages has xfce over gnome? besides the performance
[05:15] <Metatron> performance
[05:15] <Metatron> about it
[05:16] <Edgar> something else?
[05:16] <Metatron> xfce might be easier to tweak
[05:16] <Metatron> customize i mean, but u got a learning curve
[05:17] <Metatron> right click menus are more customizable in xfce if i remember correctly
[05:19] <Edgar> so for you, which is better for u gnome or xfce?
[05:19] <Metatron> gnome if i got horsepower, xfce on slower box
[05:19] <Edgar> ok
[05:19] <Edgar> do u like the kde?
[05:20] <Metatron> abit better at performance than gnome, some nice apps forit
[05:20] <Metatron> gnome is used more thus there is alot of infor availble for it, lots of ppl banging on it
[05:20] <Edgar> ok
[05:21] <Metatron> if performance isnt an isssue gnome is fine, if performace is an isssue, fluxbox, icewm, rox-filer, jwm or some combination there of
[05:23] <Edgar> ok
[05:28] <Edgar> well, it's cool that xfce have a theme similar to the gnome human theme
[05:39] <Edgar> it seems that xfce is kinda of abandoned, becouse the last version was released in 2007 :s
[05:39] <Edgar> :-/
[05:40] <Metatron> not abandoned, just slower develeopment
[05:40] <Metatron> alot less ppl working on it
[05:40] <Edgar> why is that?
[05:40] <Metatron> gnome is used in oodles of distro's
[05:40] <Metatron> more ppl in the community to work on it
[05:41] <Edgar> ook
[05:41] <Edgar> but the people that develop gnome or xfce, does they make money?
[05:42] <Edgar> I mean the softwares is free
[05:43] <Edgar> I guess that people who works in free software doesn't live of making free software
[05:43] <Metatron> yup
[05:43] <Metatron> though some of the distro's that use gnome do have commercial interests
[05:44] <Metatron> even ubuntu has a commercial sponser
[05:44] <Metatron> thus more support for gnome
[05:47] <Edgar> with the free software, people can make money with commercial support or sponsored services
[05:47] <Metatron> yeah
[05:48] <Edgar> with the services can make money, but with the product can't
[06:14] <dnyy> Everytime I open this file and edit it, then try and save, it says It can not open file to save.  Why? :(
[06:34] <knome> dnyy, what file is it?
[06:35] <dnyy> .conkyForecast
[06:35] <dnyy> I opened it through sudo thunar and it worked, though.
[06:35] <dnyy> It lets me edit other hidden files, so I have no idea why it wouldn't on that one. :/
[06:36] <knome> i suppose it has such permissions you can edit it only with root/sudo
[06:36] <zoredache> dnyy: Perhaps you don't have rights to edit the file because it owned by seomeone else
[06:37] <dnyy> Err, yeah.  For some reason it's owned by root.
[06:37] <dnyy> Didn't think to check that, sorry. ;o
[07:33] <gaurdro> is there a way to configure the options for a particular screensaver in intrepid?
[07:44] <bitmous1> ﻿I think I am having a problem with permissions, I have a minimal install with idesk as my desktop manager, unless I run it as root, it crashes every time I try to move an Icon, my icon files as well as their related files (.png's etc) are all within my personal home folder, any ideas?
[07:55] <bitmous1> ﻿hmm anybody know how to tell wine to open a command prompt and then run a program within that command prompt?
[08:02] <gaurdro> wine command.com?
[09:00] <bitmous1> ﻿anybody know where swiftfox keeps it's bookmarks etc for each user?
[12:17] <generalsnus> we have a ltsp enviroment, and the ltsp servers(xubuntu) authenticates with M$ AD.  we would like to get USB drives to work for the clients..   It used to work on both servers..  now, this has stopped working on 1 of the servers..prolly after a update.. thing is.. we dont really remember how we got it to work the first time around..  So what config files are involved here?
[12:55] <emkeyen> hello
[12:55] <emkeyen> i have a problem
[12:55] <emkeyen> i'm running xubuntu 8.10 on a hp omnibook 6100
[12:56] <emkeyen> but it does not mount my floppy disk
[12:56] <emkeyen> can i do it manually?
[13:02] <emkeyen> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy/ -t vfat
[13:02] <emkeyen> mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[13:02] <emkeyen> and
[13:03] <emkeyen> $ sudo mount /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy/ -t vfat
[13:03] <emkeyen> mount: /dev/pts/0 is not a block device
[13:03] <emkeyen> ???
[13:03] <j_xinudsb> emkeyen: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[13:04] <emkeyen> j_xinudsb: doesnt work. see error message above.
[13:06] <emkeyen> when i hot swap to cdrom it works
[13:07] <vidd> emkeyen, what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:07] <j_xinudsb> emkeyen: yeah ubuntu does not set /dev/fd0 as a automuntable device so it must be u-mounted before removing
[13:08] <emkeyen> aha
[13:10] <j_xinudsb> emkeyen: try /dev/fd0  /media/floppy0  auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8   0    0 in your fstab
[13:11] <j_xinudsb> note auto
[13:14] <emkeyen>  mount /dev/fd0
[13:14] <emkeyen> mount: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[13:15] <vidd> emkeyen, is this a usb floppy, or a standard floppy?
[13:15] <emkeyen> hotswappable standard floppy on laptop
[13:16] <vidd> emkeyen, then it will not mount as /dev/fd0
[13:17] <vidd> check your thunar under /dev/ to see what devises are listed
[13:17] <vidd> ie what is the cdrom mounted as?
[13:17] <emkeyen> when i look at fstab i see cdrom listed as /dev/scd0
[13:18] <vidd> emkeyen, then when you hotswap the floppy, see if you can mount /dev/scd0 as /media/floppy
[13:19] <vidd> you might also try scd1
[13:20] <emkeyen> hmm. weird. now i have no /dev/scd0
[13:20] <vidd> the devices listed in thunar with an "X" icon are devices not connected.....
[13:21] <vidd> items with no "X" icon are found devices
[13:21] <j_xinudsb> or create a floppy device in dev/ to point to the cd drive as ln -s scd0 floppy0
[13:22] <j_xinudsb>  ln -s scd0 fd0
[13:23] <vidd> emkeyen, when you boot with the floppy in, your bios does detect it....right?
[13:23] <emkeyen> yes
[13:23] <emkeyen> it tries to boot from floppy
[13:23] <vidd> try booting with the floppy device in, and review the list of devices in /dev
[13:24] <emkeyen> ok
[13:24] <emkeyen> now it does not mount cdrom any more either
[13:24] <vidd> this will let you know what linux is seeing the device as
[13:24] <emkeyen> ok
[13:24] <emkeyen> thanks
[13:24] <emkeyen> i'll try and bbl
[13:24] <vidd> do you still have that /dev/fd0 in your fstab?
[13:25] <emkeyen> commented it out. should i have it?
[13:50] <j_xinudsb> ahh yes otherwise ubuntu does not know how to and where to mount fd0
[14:09] <RurouniJones> Howdy all, is there anything that the alternate xubuntu install CD has that recommends it over the standard liv/install CD?
[14:11] <gabkdlly> smaller footprint
[14:12] <RurouniJones> Don't suppose it has a utility to resize windows partitions on it?
[14:13] <vidd> RurouniJones, of course it does
[14:15] <RurouniJones> On the live CD as well as the alternate?
[14:15] <RurouniJones> Non-destructively resize windows partitions that is ;)
[14:18] <j_xinudsb> use Debian if you need a smaller footprint
[14:19] <j_xinudsb> and just dont install
[14:19] <RurouniJones> footprint isn't that important. lightweight GUI is the main one
[14:19] <RurouniJones> This is going to be a Granny OS installation
[14:20] <j_xinudsb> i use dream linux for small gui footprint
[14:21] <j_xinudsb> it is based on Debian too
[14:22] <j_xinudsb> but i think xubuntu is light enough for most cases
[14:58] <vynlwombat> Hello
[14:59] <vynlwombat> I have been trying to figure out how to run the LiveUSB system creator from an ISO of xubuntu alt ISO
[14:59] <vynlwombat> jsut can't figure it out, and i've been googling all night
[19:10] <dbm> Hello there.
[19:42] <afallenhope|work> hey I was wondering can I make a liveCD of my current setup?
[19:49] <NDS> does anyone know a bluetooth applet for the XFCE panels?
[19:52] <Shaba1> NDS you are trying to connnect a bluetooth headset to your computer?
[19:52] <NDS> well, yes. among other things
[19:53] <Shaba1> not that I can help. I am just trying to figure out what you are doing
[19:53] <NDS> i just need an applet like the one available for GNOME, i find it to be the easiest to add new devices and browse files on my phone.
[20:02] <OiPenguinn> How do I install xubuntu in text mode? I have the regular and the alternate 8.10 cd. Plus graphic driver issue.
[20:04] <OiPenguinn> I've figured out. I didn't know it was text only...
[20:30] <afallenhope|work> Anyone know how I can get my current setup  (I just installed like 5 things and custom scripts/programs) as a live CD?
[20:37] <zoredache> sorry?
[20:37] <zoredache> what do you mean get your current setup?
[20:37] <knome> i suppose he means a custom cd
[20:38] <afallenhope|work> Well I just installed Xubuntu, and I've installed like 5 applications and  a few of my custom scripts/programs. now I was wondering if I can turn that into a livecd
[20:38] <afallenhope|work> you know like knoppix, slax, unbuntu,
[20:39] <zoredache> the procedure for ubuntu should be the same for xubuntu
[20:40] <zoredache> anywho, you might want to look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[21:23] <Buster_Hymen> how do i acces autostarted programs in xfce?
[21:25] <Kudi> how do i make k3b burn mp3 files
[21:28] <Buster_Hymen> Kudi:  do you have the mp3 codecs installed?
[21:28] <Kudi> yah i can play mp3 fine
[21:29] <Buster_Hymen> oh. lol well it was a shot in the dark. i'm not sure then
[21:29] <Kudi> haha k thanks
[21:39] <Shaba1> Is there a good subversion client for xubuntu 8.04?
[21:46] <Erant> Hmm, how do I set the initial boot resolution in xfce?
[21:47] <Erant> For some reason, it keeps defaulting to either 640x480 or 800x600, and doesn't even show the 1024x768 resolution.
[21:47] <Erant> I can set it just fine with xrandr though :
[21:47] <Erant> :/
[22:02] <ian___> how do i install a persistent cpy of xubuntu on a usb drive
[22:03] <ian___> *copy
[22:34] <cody-somerville> EVERYONE: Shout out your most wanted features in Xubuntu!! :D
[22:36] <cody-somerville> :)
[22:40] <Shaba1> better documentation
[22:40] <Shaba1> and a good user forum
[22:50] <cody-somerville> Shaba1, we have ubuntuforums.com
[22:50] <cody-somerville> * http://ubuntuforums.org/
[22:51] <Shaba1> that is for ubuntu
[22:51] <Shaba1> not xubuntu
[22:51] <cody-somerville> No
[22:51] <cody-somerville> It is for both
[22:52] <Shaba1> My point is that there is enough difference that there needs to be a specific forum for xubuntu
[22:53] <cody-somerville> No, no there doesn't
[22:53] <Shaba1> ok your opinion cody-somerville
[22:53] <Shaba1> sheesh
[22:53] <cody-somerville> There is only like 66 packages different between Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[22:54] <Shaba1> the whole interface is differnt
[22:54] <Shaba1> you go into the ubuntu room and ask about something
[22:54] <Shaba1> and someone tells you to click here and choose this menu item
[22:54] <cody-somerville> Sure
[22:54] <knome> Shaba1, ok so you're talking about bad *xfce* documentation
[22:54] <Shaba1> well that does not exist in xubuntu and you are totally lost
[22:54] <cody-somerville> but we don't need a separate forums
[22:55] <cody-somerville> just separate space on the forum
[22:55] <cody-somerville> and that exists
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> xfce4.6!
[23:03] <cody-somerville> :D
[23:05] <Odd-rationale> network (samba) browsing in thunar!
[23:19] <Shaba1> that would have been nice in my former job
[23:20] <Shaba1> but now that I am only on my 2 computer home network its not a necessary thing
[23:47] <skymebill> xfce 4.6 add in 8.10?
[23:49] <cody-somerville> Xfce 4.6 will be in the next release, yup
[23:50] <skymebill> :-D
[23:57] <knome> yes.