| jjesse | evening from miniapolois | 00:27 |
|---|---|---|
| Jucato | morning :) | 00:28 |
| jjesse | evening i think | 00:28 |
| Jucato | well, the sun isn't coming out, so ok, I'll agree to that :) | 00:29 |
| Jucato | how are things going in here? :) | 00:30 |
| jjesse | in the airport waiting for last flight home | 00:30 |
| jjesse | super tired and super hungry but no time for innder | 00:30 |
| jjesse | dinner | 00:30 |
| Jucato | aw :( | 00:30 |
| jjesse | at least its just an hour | 00:30 |
| Jucato | eat something, like crackers or whatnot... just to keep you from collapsing due to hunger | 00:31 |
| Jucato | whooops I think that highlighted someone :D | 00:32 |
| jjesse | can't have crackers due to wheat allergy | 00:32 |
| jjesse | and i don't have any snakcs i can eat on me :( | 00:32 |
| Jucato | double ouch :( | 00:32 |
| jjesse | yay time to board l8ter g8tor | 00:36 |
| Jucato | bye! take care | 00:36 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all.. | 01:52 |
| _Groo_ | any dev alive? | 01:52 |
| _Groo_ | could use some help | 01:52 |
| _Groo_ | anyone? | 01:58 |
| * ScottK-laptop uploads another Krusader snapshot, "because it's been a while." | 04:36 | |
| === glade88|ZzZ is now known as glade88 | ||
| vbgunz | I was inside #kde and had a little episode about "Windows Explorer" Vs "Konqueror" on an NTFS partition and a directory with over 5000+ files. Anyhow, I ran strace and we both think we found something that could be a bug. Can someone tell me why strace prints out over 1700 lines over 2 files? I mean this probably leads to 4,675,000 lines over a 5000 file directory... http://dpaste.com/98392/ | 07:18 |
| vbgunz | point being, not to start a war, Windows Explorer screams like lightning in that directory and Konqueror just needs to be put out of its misery with termination. Is that paste a bug? | 07:19 |
| glade88 | pakage gtk2-engines-qtcurve has been removed? | 07:24 |
| glade88 | ok. that was adept not finding it :/ | 07:25 |
| _Groo_ | hey ppl anyone alive? | 07:48 |
| _Groo_ | im having a tough problem in the launchpad builder | 07:49 |
| _Groo_ | im building koffice-kde4 beta4 but the builder says he cant find Missing dependencies: libglpk-dev although its in universe. i already have my ppa pointing to the backport deps.. what else am i missing? | 07:50 |
| _Groo_ | locally it build just fine, and i corrected all new files and such.. | 07:50 |
| _Groo_ | so koffice2-kde4 beta 4 is good to go, providing the ppa is able to build it :P | 07:51 |
| _Groo_ | any dev alive? | 08:13 |
| _Groo_ | could really use the help | 08:13 |
| _Groo_ | !help | 08:13 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #kubuntu-devel's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 08:13 |
| _Groo_ | !cookie _Groo_ | 08:13 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie _Groo_ | 08:13 |
| _Groo_ | !cookie| _Groo_ | 08:14 |
| ubottu | _Groo_, please see my private message | 08:14 |
| stdin | _Groo_: why not just say what the problem is and wait patiently? | 08:16 |
| _Groo_ | hi stdin, i already did, half an hor ago | 08:18 |
| _Groo_ | hour | 08:18 |
| _Groo_ | im building koffice-kde4 beta4 but the builder says he cant find Missing dependencies: libglpk-dev although its in universe. i already have my ppa pointing to the backport deps.. what else am i missing? | 08:18 |
| _Groo_ | locally it build just fine, and i corrected all new files and such.. | 08:18 |
| _Groo_ | so koffice2-kde4 beta 4 is good to go, providing the ppa is able to build it :P | 08:18 |
| stdin | PPA's don't build against universe/multiverse | 08:19 |
| _Groo_ | ah :( thats the problem then | 08:19 |
| stdin | fwiw, PPA questions should be in #launchpad | 08:19 |
| _Groo_ | where can i upload it for you guys to review? | 08:19 |
| _Groo_ | stdin: ok, noted | 08:19 |
| stdin | you just need to "apt-get source libglpk-dev" then create a new changelog entry with (version)~ppa1 and upload | 08:20 |
| stdin | that will let it build in the PPA but not need you (or your users) to download the package from your PPA if they have universe | 08:20 |
| _Groo_ | ahh ok | 08:21 |
| _Groo_ | and then i can notify you here so you can review it? | 08:21 |
| stdin | review in what way? | 08:22 |
| _Groo_ | so you can accept it and put it into kubuntu ppa | 08:23 |
| _Groo_ | i also have fixed the libamsn needed by kopete to suport the live msn protocol, after koffice i would like to upload the changed kdenetwork so you guys could update the kubuntu repo also | 08:25 |
| stdin | I'll have a look, but I won't add. at least not without a few ACKs from other devs | 08:25 |
| _Groo_ | sure, thats the idea :) | 08:27 |
| * Jucato waves at stdin | 09:02 | |
| stdin | ooh, it's Jucato | 09:02 |
| Jucato | how are things in Kubuntu-land? :) | 09:03 |
| stdin | rocKing along | 09:04 |
| stdin | and very shiny | 09:04 |
| Jucato | just wanted to drop by and spend a few moments before saying goodbye :P | 09:04 |
| hunger | Jucato: Where are you going? | 09:04 |
| Jucato | just dropping off from the Kubuntu radar | 09:06 |
| stdin | as long as you still use KDE, I'll forgive you | 09:06 |
| Jucato | of course :) | 09:07 |
| Jucato | I have a somewhat bigger responsibility now up there :) | 09:07 |
| etretyak | Jucato: a child? ;-) | 09:08 |
| hunger | Jucato: Well, thanks for all the stuff you did for kubuntu. I hope you have fun outside kubuntu land! | 09:08 |
| Jucato | anyway, my membership runs out next month, so not gonna renew | 09:08 |
| Jucato | etretyak: yes! KDE is my child now! :P | 09:08 |
| Jucato | hunger: thanks too. see you in KDE land! :) | 09:09 |
| Jucato | luckily/hopefully we'll still cross paths in KDE um.. "continent" :) | 09:09 |
| Jucato | (although I will be missing Hobbsee :P) | 09:09 |
| stdin | shush, she'll bring the stick! | 09:10 |
| hunger | Jucato: Dunno. I'm rather inactive myself wrt. KDE at this time:-( | 09:10 |
| Jucato | I no longer ph34r the stick. it can't reach me :) | 09:10 |
| Jucato | hunger: aw... :( | 09:10 |
| stdin | one think I've learnt, never underestimate the stick | 09:10 |
| Jucato | well, we all have our seasons. unfortunately we're not all like Riddell... KDE/Kubuntu all year round :) | 09:10 |
| Jucato | stdin: hm.. yeah... I might have forgotten that during my hiatus :) | 09:11 |
| stdin | well Riddell is a dedicated guy for sure | 09:11 |
| hunger | Jucato: Well, Riddell has the luxury of being paid for kubuntu. I'd spend more time on kde too, if I did not have to do something else to pay the rent. | 09:11 |
| stdin | well, we'll always have !autostart-#kubuntu to remind us of you :) | 09:13 |
| Jucato | stdin: hahaha! I need to update that for KDE 4 asap :) | 09:27 |
| stdin | you're still on KDE3? | 09:27 |
| stdin | how have you survived so long? :p | 09:27 |
| Jucato | of course not :) | 09:27 |
| stdin | ah, you're guide, yes | 09:27 |
| Jucato | but there are times that I do wish I was on it :) | 09:27 |
| Jucato | I can escape nvidia borkage in KDE 3 :) | 09:28 |
| stdin | I never want to look back now, plasma is my friend | 09:28 |
| Jucato | you must have a very recent/decent graphics card/driver :) | 09:28 |
| Jucato | but it's not only Plasma.. but Qt/KDE 4 in general | 09:28 |
| Jucato | s/only// | 09:28 |
| stdin | it's not really recent, or decent :p | 09:29 |
| stdin | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) | 09:29 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=3&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 3 | Source imported | 09:29 |
| stdin | but it works fine | 09:29 |
| stdin | huh, ubottu you know that wasn't right | 09:30 |
| smarter | hey | 09:31 |
| Jucato | stdin: in this context, any Intel is more decent than a legacy nvidia :) | 09:31 |
| Jucato | I'm talking about 96.xx.xx legacy :) | 09:32 |
| stdin | even my intel 810 works fine with plama, gotta love open drivers :) | 09:32 |
| Jucato | yeah I have an i810 as well on the laptop | 09:33 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 11:43 |
| _Groo_ | can anyone tell me if there is any way to add unvierse packages to a ppa without having to upload them one by one? | 11:43 |
| _Groo_ | maybe adding a ppa dependencie that points to universe packages? | 11:44 |
| stdin | _Groo_: no, you have to do it manually | 11:48 |
| _Groo_ | stdin: it making me nuts.. i been on this for hours now, just to make the damn koffice2 to compile in the ppa | 11:48 |
| _Groo_ | stdin: and to think the simple act to add universe would solve everything.. | 11:49 |
| _Groo_ | oh well | 11:49 |
| _Groo_ | trying to be a kubuntu dev isnt easy :P | 11:49 |
| _Groo_ | !cookie| _Groo_ | 11:50 |
| ubottu | _Groo_, please see my private message | 11:50 |
| _Groo_ | ahhh cookies | 11:50 |
| doc___ | hi there | 12:15 |
| ScorpKing | hi everyone. where do i find the kickoff menu icon in kubuntu 8.10? i don't see any kickoff related icons on my box. i'm using kde 4.1 | 12:18 |
| smarter | ScorpKing: it's the K icon on the left | 12:50 |
| smarter | ScorpKing: but please ask this type of question on #kubuntu | 12:51 |
| ScorpKing | smarter: i know. how can i make it pink? ;) | 12:51 |
| ScorpKing | smarter: yes i know. stdin just helped me there. thanks anyway | 12:51 |
| smarter | okay, you're welcome | 12:52 |
| smarter | (btw, you can actually change icons color using systemsettings --> appearance --> icons --> advanced ;)) | 12:53 |
| stdin | is that different in 4.1.80, because you can only change the effects with 4.1.x | 12:56 |
| smarter | stdin: actually, one of the "effects" is the color | 13:22 |
| stdin | smarter: ah, I thought you meant you could change the actual icon to something else | 13:22 |
| apachelogger | stdin: don't be silly :P | 13:34 |
| * apachelogger sends stdin and smarter to the batcave | 13:36 | |
| * Jucato plays adam west batman background music in head | 13:40 | |
| * ScottK-laptop notes that mikearthur in #ubuntu-motu is a kdepim developer (he says). Perhaps someone else wants to help entice him in here to help us. | 13:43 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Do we want an announcement on kubutu.org that 4.1.3 is in intrepid-updates now? | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | ScottK-laptop: I doubt it's useful since updates is on by default anyway | 13:49 |
| * apachelogger merges klibido while kdepimlibs is batbuilding | 13:50 | |
| ScottK-laptop | Good point. | 13:50 |
| ScottK-laptop | I guess it'd just be the PR value of announcing we're keeping people up to date. | 13:51 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: so im uploading the universe packages one by one and waiting for them to build so i can finally build koffice on ppa | 13:53 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: is there a good reason for universe not being accepted in ppa build? cause its a pain in the utt | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | it should be | 13:54 |
| _Groo_ | stdin said otherwise | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | stdin: why would ppas only support building against main packages? | 13:55 |
| stdin | ahh, they did once | 13:55 |
| stdin | it was -backports I was confused with | 13:55 |
| stdin | which seems to be fixed on edge now | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 13:56 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yeah, learning the hard way.. i hope i get a cookie when im finally done | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | have to think about that :P | 13:58 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: what? no cookie??? :( | 13:59 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: small kitten? banana? | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | maybe a pony | 14:00 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: hmm they are very nice with potatoes... maybe a good wine... | 14:00 |
| _Groo_ | is anyone working on koffice2 beta 4? | 14:01 |
| _Groo_ | hope not :P | 14:01 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 14:02 |
| * apachelogger notes that _Groo_ will nevar get a pony | 14:02 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: honey! | 14:02 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: honey?! | 14:03 |
| Tm_T | nuts! | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ahhh :( i was almost tasting it already :P damn... | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: what about a puppy? | 14:03 |
| Nightrose | _Groo_: you don't get any of them if you are going to eat them! | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: they are very tasty also... but dont have much carb | 14:03 |
| _Groo_ | Nightrose: what else was i suposed to do with a pony??? | 14:04 |
| Nightrose | hug it of course | 14:04 |
| Jucato | ride 'em | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | cuddles it! | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: so, do we know anyone with broken kde-nightly? | 14:04 |
| Tm_T | and then eat it | 14:04 |
| Jucato | color 'em pink | 14:04 |
| _Groo_ | can i eat it AFTER cuddling and riding? | 14:04 |
| * apachelogger is wondering if the run yesterday did finish at all | 14:04 | |
| Jucato | and *then* eat 'em... raw | 14:04 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: havn't heard any complains in the last 24 h | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | well, I'd like to hear some praise | 14:05 |
| Nightrose | _Groo_: NO! | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | or rather, if it works at all | 14:05 |
| * Nightrose cuddles apachelogger | 14:05 | |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i can give it a test later | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | fair enough | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | that would be worth a cookie I guess | 14:06 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: puppy? oO | 14:06 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: with sugar on top? | 14:06 |
| _Groo_ | so if i get it straight.. trying kde-nightly which doesnt involve any effort = 1 cookie | 14:07 |
| apachelogger | aye | 14:07 |
| _Groo_ | making the koffice2-kde4 beta4 package which is kicking my ... since last night = no cookie, pony or any edible mamals | 14:08 |
| Nightrose | right | 14:08 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 14:08 |
| _Groo_ | you know, im pretty sure i read in the kubuntu membership guide lines that kubuntu devs are allowed to eat any kind of mamals | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | I am quite sure they are not | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | otherwise we should do a meeting right away | 14:09 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: wait for me to get my membership so i can vote :D | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | only the council would vote :P | 14:10 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: damn... | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | that said, I am the councils supply of cookies... :P | 14:11 |
| _Groo_ | -.- | 14:12 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: why did they disabled universe for ppas? too easy for devs? :P | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: they did not | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | your issue must be a different one | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | backports is not on by default | 14:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yes it is. | 14:15 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i mean, i enabled it | 14:16 |
| _Groo_ | take a look: https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive | 14:16 |
| _Groo_ | its becoming a freaking nightmare, so close yet so far | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: you shouldn't build against intrepid by default | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ??? | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: if you want me to sponsor the package has to be done for jaunty | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: hum.. why? isnt intrepid the standard? | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | jaunty is development series | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: just a matter of changing the changelog | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: at times it's more than that | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i think im gonna cry... ok.. so need to reupload for jaunty, then universe will work? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: universe would work for intrpid as well | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: yes i know, some libs mya differ | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: why it isnt then? | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | the problem you were facing is that certain packages don't appear to be in intrepid | 14:20 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: sure they are, i checked with packages.ubuntu.com | 14:20 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: all of them.. | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | also the required version? | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | pstoedit: Depends: libpstoedit0c2a (>= 3.45-4~1padoka1) but it is not going to be installed | 14:21 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: that one was a bug.. im already rebyuilding it | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | well, I don't see another build log | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: the others where for ex: libgraphicsmagick1-dev, libeigen2-dev | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: because is building as we speak | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | try now | 14:23 |
| _Groo_ | didnt know why is started compilng that one, if i deleted it and uploaded the ppa1 version :/ | 14:23 |
| _Groo_ | i mean dont know | 14:23 |
| * apachelogger is confused :P | 14:24 | |
| _Groo_ | two | 14:24 |
| _Groo_ | im using launchpad beta btw | 14:24 |
| _Groo_ | and i never had any problems with universe before yesterday... | 14:24 |
| * _Groo_ is very confused | 14:25 | |
| _Groo_ | well anyway, gonna wait for the intrepid build to ACTUALLY build, and then im gonna make the jaunty build.. so for you reviews it must be always jaunty then? | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: well, or whatever is development series at the time ;-) | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: in general it makes sense to ensure it also builds against $lateststable-backports (e.g. intrepid-backports) to take appropriate actions in order to get the package backported | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | for example prepare the backport of a new library | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: it appears to me kollide is a bit slowish | 14:30 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ok | 14:30 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: heh - probably still due to release traffic | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: awful, how am I supposed to do KDE release packaging :P | 14:30 |
| Nightrose | :P | 14:31 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: one deb at a time? XD | 14:31 |
| _Groo_ | so beta2 is out? oO | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | no | 14:32 |
| apachelogger | we (the ninjas) have super exclusive access to the source before it gets released | 14:32 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: its called svn -.- | 14:32 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: Super Vindicated Ninjas | 14:33 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: isnt this (*@&#*(@# suposed to work? pstoedit: Depends: libpstoedit0c2a (>= 3.45-4~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: ive done the usual package by the book.. this ppa is starting to piss me off.. can i just send you my diff? | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: i already build it locally and tested it... | 14:35 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: 99% chance it will work for jaunty without changes too | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | _Groo_: diff.gz and dsc to apachelogger@ubuntu.com | 14:38 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: sent | 14:41 |
| * _Groo_ warns that using groo packages may cause sexual disfunction, loss of hair and wow addiction | 14:42 | |
| * seele yawns | 14:55 | |
| gambix | i i need a big help on a problem with glib | 15:08 |
| gambix | the package seem to be broken | 15:08 |
| _Groo_ | seeya later ppl :) | 15:24 |
| seele | huh.. did pitti remove his blog entry about amarok? | 15:30 |
| Nightrose | he blogged about amarok? | 15:33 |
| * DaSkreech tacklehugs Nightrose then throws himself off a cliff | 15:34 | |
| Nightrose | ohnoes! | 15:34 |
| seele | Nightrose: he commented on some technical stuff.. but it's removed from his blog now | 15:34 |
| Nightrose | hmmm | 15:35 |
| * DaSkreech hugs seele. Wheee System settings looks much nicer in 4.3 | 15:35 | |
| * Nightrose tries to find it | 15:35 | |
| stdin | who want's to fix bug #307412 ? | 15:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307412 in kaffeine "Binary executable missing from kaffeine package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307412 | 15:35 |
| DaSkreech | Is there a Kaffiene komplete with Koffee for KDE4 ? | 15:36 |
| Nightrose | argh!!!!! | 15:36 |
| Nightrose | thank god he removed that | 15:36 |
| Nightrose | makes him look very stupid | 15:36 |
| Nightrose | _very_ | 15:37 |
| Nightrose | ScottK: Riddell: Did pitti ask you about the amarok db? if so also clarification for you: amarok does not require a db setup by the user | 16:08 |
| * Nightrose still shakes head about that blog entry | 16:08 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: bad research | 16:25 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: worst blog in days :( | 16:26 |
| Nightrose | doesn't matter if it was bad research | 16:26 |
| * apachelogger doesn't read blogs anymore, so he wouldn't know :P | 16:26 | |
| Nightrose | and he said he talked to skot and Jonathan | 16:26 |
| Nightrose | Scott even | 16:26 |
| Nightrose | which makes it even worse | 16:27 |
| Nightrose | and worst thing: people read it and will actually believe the bs | 16:27 |
| Nightrose | :( | 16:27 |
| Nightrose | but oh well... | 16:27 |
| Nightrose | at least he took it offline | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: write a blog puting things straight | 16:28 |
| Nightrose | hmmmm | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | planet ubuntu got almost 4k google reader subscribers | 16:28 |
| Nightrose | oh dear... | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | all those have that stuff in the reader cache | 16:29 |
| Nightrose | indeed | 16:29 |
| Nightrose | f*ck! | 16:29 |
| Nightrose | sounds like i need to write a blog entry | 16:30 |
| * Nightrose sights | 16:30 | |
| * apachelogger huggles Nightrose and gives her a hot cup of tea | 16:32 | |
| Nightrose | :) thx honez | 16:32 |
| Jucato | good luck :) | 16:32 |
| * Jucato waves good night | 16:33 | |
| Nightrose | nini Jucato | 16:33 |
| Jucato | I didn't get the blog post from the planet. luckily Google cached it :P | 16:33 |
| * Nightrose should teach parley not to change her keyboard layout | 16:33 | |
| apachelogger | now that is ugly behaviour :P | 16:33 |
| Nightrose | hehe nah it is what i told it to do | 16:34 |
| Nightrose | there is just a small bug with it | 16:34 |
| Nightrose | when typing in spanish vocabulary i want it to have a spanish keyboard layout so i can type the special characters | 16:34 |
| Nightrose | but for some reason it doesn't go back to the german layout when i close parley | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | I am not sure I would want a completely different layout for that | 16:35 |
| Nightrose | well i wanted to give it a try :P | 16:36 |
| Nightrose | and it is handy i have to say | 16:36 |
| seele | Nightrose: he heard us talking about amarok requiring mysql and no the setup does not require the user to enter a password | 16:49 |
| Nightrose | i see | 16:49 |
| seele | Nightrose: if we use kpackagekit (which we most likely will).. they wont have a chance to set it on setup, it defaults to no password | 16:49 |
| Nightrose | yea shouldn't be a problem then | 16:50 |
| Nightrose | it is completely configuration free | 16:50 |
| Nightrose | mysql != mysql embedded | 16:50 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: shaking head at which blog entry? | 17:01 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: pitti's - he took it offline already | 17:02 |
| Nightrose | it was very uninformed | 17:02 |
| smarter | care to paste it somewhere so we can all see it? :] | 17:03 |
| Nightrose | sec | 17:03 |
| Nightrose | http://pastebin.com/d15f31c95 | 17:05 |
| * Nightrose would have expected better of him | 17:06 | |
| Nightrose | but oh well | 17:06 |
| * Nightrose drinks tea and chills | 17:06 | |
| Riddell | how strange | 17:06 |
| * rgreening yawns | 17:07 | |
| jjesse | afternoon | 17:51 |
| Riddell | hi jjesse, crisis managed? | 17:53 |
| jjesse | Riddell yes crisis managed | 17:53 |
| jjesse | caleb had a fever and was consipitated which is why he wasn't sleeping | 17:53 |
| jjesse | loaded him up on prune juice and cleared up both problems | 17:54 |
| jjesse | how's the discussion todya? | 17:55 |
| jjesse | the discussion must be captiviating as no one is responding | 18:01 |
| === rmblr is now known as Ramblurr | ||
| jjesse | wow the prune juice kicked in big time for caleb | 18:31 |
| directhex | o_o | 18:36 |
| quassel251 | ahem | 18:39 |
| === quassel251 is now known as Riddelll | ||
| Riddelll | why does quassel feel the need to include a window showing the raw IRC protocol? | 18:41 |
| jjesse | because | 18:47 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: have you seen the mail on the kubuntu list about kaffeine being removed? | 18:48 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: i have that here as well and since my phonon is b0rked i can't watch videos right now | 18:48 |
| Nightrose | :( | 18:48 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: yeah, working on it | 19:06 |
| Nightrose | ok thx | 19:06 |
| Nightrose | installed vlc now | 19:06 |
| yuriy | huh nobody here is subscribed to bug 269191 | 19:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269191 in kdenlive "[Wish][Intrepid]Please include Kdenlive 0.7 for kde4 in the repo´s" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269191 | 19:25 |
| yuriy | but someone is working on a package, right? | 19:25 |
| Riddell | yuriy: yes, ScottK-laptop | 19:34 |
| ScottK | yuriy: I've been picking at it. | 19:34 |
| ScottK | Anyone wants to jump in and make it work, feel free. For Intrepid you'll also have to backport mlt and mlt++. | 19:38 |
| rgreening | gobby stands for gobble up your notes | 20:12 |
| ScottK | Having read nixternal's blog post ... What IRC client are we shipping? | 20:29 |
| Riddell | yes | 20:29 |
| ScottK | Yes we are shipping one, but we don't know what it is yet? | 20:30 |
| Riddell | no resolution yet | 20:31 |
| nixternal | ScottK: read the comment in that post, as it will answer that | 20:35 |
| * smarter votes for Quassel :] | 20:35 | |
| nixternal | if k3b comes out with a kde4 release we can use, then it just leaves konvi as the only KDE 3 app, and trying to rid ourselves of that would mean we would lose konvi on the cd, but it would still be available in the archive | 20:36 |
| smarter | do we have a replacement for knetworkmanager? | 20:36 |
| nixternal | smarter: nope, but we didn't get to see tonio show off the knetworkmangler kde4 version...pretty pimp but far from perfect | 20:37 |
| ScottK-laptop | Well if IRC is the primary means of getting end user support, I'd think we should ship an IRC client in the default install.... | 20:37 |
| nixternal | we will probably utilize the kubuntu-users mailing list as the primary in the future, as some complaints from new users is that the main support is on IRC, which they are uncomfortable with | 20:38 |
| directhex | people complaining because there's not *enough* mailing listage? | 20:38 |
| * smarter is more confortable with IRC than ml :P | 20:39 | |
| nixternal | smarter: as I am as well, but unfortunately being a fairly substantial community distribution, we have to listen to the users....if it is that much of a worry that we have IRC, I suggest people start helping Sho_ get it ported and working in KDE 4 | 20:40 |
| seele | mailing lists are much more commonplace than IRC | 20:41 |
| smarter | ...or we switch to Quassel :p | 20:41 |
| nixternal | smarter: yes, the IRC client that connects to localhost by default instead of a real IRC server | 20:41 |
| nixternal | I say screw it, and we ship Irssi | 20:41 |
| smarter | nixternal: and we remove X | 20:42 |
| nixternal | oh man, that would rock! | 20:42 |
| nixternal | everyone complaining about their ati cards...get rid of x and ati cards work perfectly :) | 20:43 |
| smarter | hehe | 20:43 |
| smarter | they will complain about framebuffer drivers not working at full speed :p | 20:43 |
| * directhex locks up nixternal's framebuffer console | 20:43 | |
| nixternal | I haven't locked that up in a super long time | 20:43 |
| * smarter remembers http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Uncyclux :] | 20:43 | |
| directhex | uncyclopaedia is on wikia now? o_o | 20:44 |
| seele | ok.. am i stupid or something | 20:45 |
| nixternal | something | 20:45 |
| seele | i cant get quassel to connect | 20:45 |
| nixternal | seele: change localhost in quassel's settings | 20:45 |
| seele | added a connection.. put irc.freenode.net in hostname.. port 6667 | 20:45 |
| nixternal | haha, nice | 20:45 |
| seele | clicked ok.. it's added.. click OK and it says it didn't connect | 20:45 |
| seele | no other information | 20:45 |
| seele | so uh.. what did i do wrong? | 20:45 |
| smarter | on the buffer view in the list, you should have Freenode, click on it, then on buffer state and see if it's trying to connect, if not, right click on freenode --> connect | 20:46 |
| smarter | also, the version of quassel in Kubuntu 8.10 is a bit outdated | 20:46 |
| seele | no.. its not in that list | 20:47 |
| seele | oh wait | 20:47 |
| seele | what's quassel core? | 20:47 |
| smarter | quassel has two parts | 20:47 |
| smarter | quasselcore and quasselclient | 20:47 |
| smarter | the client connects to the core | 20:47 |
| seele | i just apt-get install quassel and typed quassel in krunner | 20:48 |
| smarter | this allow to have a core on a remote system, so that you can stay connected on the net | 20:48 |
| seele | is that the client or core? | 20:48 |
| smarter | none :p | 20:48 |
| Nightrose | seele: that is the standalone package that has both | 20:48 |
| smarter | this is a version with both client and core built in the same exe | 20:48 |
| smarter | for those who don't have a server | 20:48 |
| smarter | (thought it's also handy to stay connected when you reboot X) | 20:49 |
| seele | ok.. so how do i get to the client? i clicked the Quassel icon | 20:49 |
| Nightrose | seele: if you have a server with a core somewhere like i do you only need to install the client and can save some discspace that way | 20:49 |
| seele | gah | 20:49 |
| Nightrose | ? | 20:49 |
| seele | ok.. so i installed quassel-client, opened it.. put irc.freenode.net 6667 and it still wont connect | 20:51 |
| Nightrose | where did you put it? in the connect dialog at the beginning? | 20:51 |
| seele | why does it still say quassel core? i apt-get removed quassel and installed quassel-client | 20:51 |
| seele | yes.. the first dialog | 20:51 |
| Nightrose | that one is only for connecting to the server where your core is running | 20:52 |
| seele | that's stupid | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | (yes usability of quassel is a nightmare still) | 20:52 |
| seele | and we want to ship this? | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | i don't think it is ready for that yet | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | i am trying to push them in the right direction from time to time but it needs someone with more time and knowledge to really get it perfect | 20:52 |
| seele | ok.. so.. hmm | 20:53 |
| seele | where do i add an irc network? File -> Networks gave me a dialog that was completely disabled | 20:53 |
| Nightrose | are you running the client only now? without a core? | 20:53 |
| Nightrose | if so that will not work | 20:54 |
| seele | quassel-client | 20:54 |
| seele | what? | 20:54 |
| Nightrose | install the quassel package if you just want to try it localy | 20:54 |
| seele | so it's not a client? | 20:54 |
| Nightrose | what you have is a client but it needs a core to connect to | 20:54 |
| * seele faceslaps | 20:55 | |
| Nightrose | if you install "quassel" you get both in one | 20:55 |
| seele | forget this.. apt-get remove | 20:55 |
| Nightrose | it is kinda like irssi with screen | 20:55 |
| Nightrose | but with a (not yet perfect) gui | 20:55 |
| seele | and we expect people to use this for support reasons? | 20:56 |
| Nightrose | if you have suggestions on how to improve it one of their lead devs is a friend of mine - i can get you in touch with them or anyone you could recommend | 20:56 |
| seele | they'll need support just to install the thing | 20:56 |
| seele | i'd rather just get konversation ported :) | 20:56 |
| Nightrose | jep as I said i don't think it is ready for that | 20:56 |
| Nightrose | it needs a lot of work to be usable by joe-user | 20:57 |
| Nightrose | it works nice for me now that i know how to use it and compared to a few months ago it is already a lot better | 20:57 |
| smarter | if it's properly installed and configured(thought I'm not sure there is a system-wide config file?), users shouldn't have too much problems | 20:57 |
| Nightrose | smarter: there are still too many problems | 20:58 |
| ScottK-laptop | How's their security history? | 20:58 |
| Nightrose | very good so far afaik | 20:58 |
| ScottK-laptop | IIRC we patched a significant security bug right before Intrepid release. | 20:58 |
| ScottK-laptop | \sh took care of it, i think. | 20:58 |
| Nightrose | jep he is a friend of sput | 20:58 |
| Nightrose | one of the lead devs | 20:59 |
| smarter | http://www.quassel-irc.org/node/89 | 20:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | Yeah. That's the one. | 20:59 |
| smarter | between 0.3.0.2 and 0.3.0.3(with the fix) ten days passed, I don't know when the bug was reported but it looks like it was quiet quickly fixed | 21:00 |
| ScottK-laptop | That's the reason why I asked though. If that's the only one and they're responsive, not a big deal. | 21:03 |
| ScottK-laptop | I misremembered. It was apachelogger that took care of the quassel security issue right before release. | 21:08 |
| jjesse | afternoon everyone :) | 21:35 |
| * jjesse finished christmas shopping today ;) | 21:35 | |
| jpds | jjesse: You're back /home? | 21:37 |
| jjesse | jpds: yeah i had to go home early due to family emergency | 21:37 |
| jpds | jjesse: Ah, sorry to hear that. | 21:37 |
| jjesse | son wasn't sleeping due to fever, ear ache, etc and because of that wife had like 5 hours of sleep all week while i was at uds | 21:38 |
| jpds | :( | 21:38 |
| jjesse | yeah | 21:38 |
| jjesse | so i came home early | 21:38 |
| jjesse | but a lot of the stuff i cared about was already discussed which was nice | 21:38 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: do you know why the library amarok uses is a static library? | 22:33 |
| Nightrose | mysql embedded? you'd need to ask Aides about that | 22:34 |
| Nightrose | he is the mysql guru | 22:34 |
| NCommander | hey Riddell | 22:35 |
| Riddell | hi Nightrose | 22:40 |
| Riddell | hi NCommander | 22:40 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 22:40 |
| NCommander | Riddell, I need your help on something | 22:41 |
| NCommander | Where are you heading after this meeting? | 22:41 |
| Riddell | no plans | 22:42 |
| seele | Riddell: did you get your tshirt? | 22:55 |
| Riddell | seele: nope | 22:55 |
| seele | hmm.. i saw the boxes under the tables but i dont know if they were empty | 22:56 |
| seele | nixternal is crew, you should see if he can nab you one | 22:57 |
| * seele pokes nixternal | 22:57 | |
| Riddell | <nixternal> they're over there on the table | 22:58 |
| glatzor | Tonio_, http://launchpad.net/~packagekit/+archive | 23:29 |
| Riddell | * spec for review https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntyKDEPackaging | 23:42 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: is there a new kaffine up? does it fix your problem? | 23:44 |
| * Nightrose checks | 23:44 | |
| Riddell | i.e. it should be up, might be on your mirror | 23:44 |
| Nightrose | no update yet | 23:45 |
| Nightrose | i am using the main server i think | 23:45 |
| Riddell | oh grr | 23:46 |
| Riddell | I messed up | 23:46 |
| Riddell | again | 23:46 |
| Nightrose | heh no problem - i am probably up for another hour at least if you need me to check later | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you are in good company | 23:48 |
| * apachelogger just broke batbuild | 23:48 | |
| * Nightrose hands out cookies to the b0rkers :P | 23:49 | |
| Riddell | Nightrose: 0.8.7-1ubuntu3~intrepid2 uploaded, look out for it appearing, should be fairly fast I believe the bulidds are quiet this week | 23:50 |
| Nightrose | alright | 23:50 |
| Nightrose | thx | 23:50 |
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