[00:05] <linuxman410> i have a question about video
[00:06] <linuxman410> i turned off computer and back on and now all i have is 640x480 resoultion
[00:10] <linuxman410> i turned off computer and back on and now all i have is 640x480 resoultion
[00:14] <linuxman410> anyone have any ideas how to fix
[00:42] <MAXI-MUM> hey guys i read an article about that windows 7 is far faster than windows vista that is already faster than ubuntu on high end machines !!! is that true?
[00:46] <MAXI-MUM> and i realy hate ubuntu because firefox always crash on youtube
[00:47] <MAXI-MUM> and my boot time suck
[00:47] <MAXI-MUM> but it has a good memory usage apart from 83 mb used by nautilus to just view my desktop
[00:48] <MAXI-MUM> ubuntu is great if it has a better theme and tweak memory usage and boot timwe
[01:41] <charlie-tca> Jaunty Question: Finally got an alternate cd image that loaded. If /home/$USER is carried forward, the user can be added!
[01:41] <charlie-tca> */can/can not
[01:42] <RAOF> I'm not sure I can parse the question out of that.
[01:42] <RAOF> What is it that you're actually asking?
[01:43] <charlie-tca> The user does not currently exist, but /home/$USER does. Trying to add the user generates an error that home directory exists.
[01:43] <charlie-tca> Sorry, question got lost. Is this a known bug?
[01:43] <RAOF> Hm.  I don't know, acutally.
[01:44] <charlie-tca> Any way to add the user if /home/$USER exists?
[01:44] <RAOF> Move /home/$USER away, create the user, copy it back?
[01:45] <RAOF> That's a bit problematic really; there's no guarantee that the newly-created user has the same UID as the old one, so permissions may well be messed up.
[01:45] <charlie-tca> Yeah, looks like it. There is an old Hardy alpha4 bug on the same thing bug 190815
[01:46] <charlie-tca> RAOF: Might be, but I have been doing it since 6.06
[02:44] <maek> can anyone tell me if jaunty has the pkg xcb-util please?
[02:44] <RAOF> maek: /msg ubottu !find xcb-util
[02:45] <maek> RAOF: thanks much :)
[02:47] <RAOF> Hm.  Seems ubottu's on holiday.  I can't find it in Jaunty, no.  What is it?
[02:48] <maek> RAOF: its bindings for X11 C development needed to compile awesome wm
[02:48] <nhandler> packages.ubuntu.com also doesn't produce any results for it
[02:48] <maek> nhandler: thanks
[02:48] <genii> !info libxcb1-dev jaunty
[02:49] <RAOF> Right; that's the core xcb bindings.
[02:49] <maek> these are i think as the name says utilitys for handing cut and paste
[02:49] <maek> thanks all for the help.
[02:50] <maek> I lied, its the replacement for xlib xcb, supposed to make it fast. just reading this I dont know what im talking about.
[02:51] <RAOF> Aaah.  xcb-misc isn't packaged as that; it's split out into its component bindings.
[02:52] <RAOF> You probably want libxcb-icccm0-dev
[02:53] <maek> RAOF: thanks, ill install that and try to compile
[02:53] <maek> I appreciate the help.
[02:53] <RAOF> Generally, running awesome's configure script should tell you the pkg-config files it's after; it'll say something like "xcb-icccm xcb-event xcb-whatever", and you want to apt-file search for xcb-icccm.pc.
[02:54] <genii> Interesting. http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/jaunty/xcb-util   reports it exists
[02:54] <RAOF> Right.  That's the source package that builds libxcb-event, libxcb-icccm, etc.
[02:55] <maek> genii: yeah, thats what I came in here to ask, I found a post that said it was built for jaunty
[02:56] <genii> maek: According to the site an Intrepid version exists also
[02:56] <genii> They both seem to be from git, not regular repos
[02:57] <maek> genii: it sas the following binary pkgs are build from this source pkg, does that mean they just use it only to build the regular .debs?
[02:58] <genii> maek: It means it's a source package. So it compiles. What it compiles into binaries (not deb files) is what is in the list
[03:00] <maek> genii: thanks.
[03:00] <genii> maek: np
[03:00] <maek> so it would be the same as doing a git checkout and building it my self? or will using that src pkg provied some dpkg/apt interface to the stuff installed?
[03:01] <genii> maek: Yes, git checkout and build. No dpkg interface unless you do checkinstall or such to build a deb when you compile it
[03:02] <maek> genii: thanks.
[03:02] <RAOF> maek: I think you're a bit confused.
[03:02] <RAOF> You don't need to touch the xcb-misc source package; it's not useful for you.
[03:02] <maek> RAOF: thats a polite understatement
[03:02] <genii> maek: What is it that you perceive to be requiring it for?
[03:03] <maek> RAOF: except that the install instructions say to git checkout and build the xcb-util pkgs from freedesktop.org
[03:03] <RAOF> Awesome doesn't need the xcb-misc library, because it doesn't exist.  xcb-misc is a collection of smaller libraries, which our source package splits into their own binary package.
[03:03] <maek> for awesome wm, just following the ubuntu install guide, except its for hardy, so I was just hopping maybe intrepid had this pkg
[03:03] <maek> RAOF: ah, understood now. thank you.
[03:04] <genii> RAOF: I did notice that the entire list it compiles is available when I apt-cache search
[03:04] <maek> or jaunty, after I saw int mentioned in a search
[03:04] <RAOF> awesome _actually_ needs one or more of the libraries that is bundled in xcb-misc.  They're called 'libxcb-$STUFF-dev'.  Examples of $STUFF are: event, icccm, render, etc.
[03:06] <maek> RAOF: yeah and based on that libxcb-iccm0-dev pkg you told me to install it installed all the event iccm render etc etc stuff
[03:06] <RAOF> So, basically, you want to run awesome's ./configure script, which will hopefully tell you what it needs.
[03:06] <maek> it shows up in dpkg -l but awesomes make is still whining.
[03:07] <RAOF> Can you pastebin the full output of ./configure?
[03:07] <maek> RAOF: they use cmake so I *think* make is also doing the equiv of ./configure
[03:08] <maek> let me pastie, thanks!
[03:10] <maek> RAOF: http://pastebin.com/m6d485bb0
[03:10] <maek> oh, maybe im the worst person ever
[03:10] <maek> >= 0.3.0
[03:11] <maek> these are all 0.2
[03:11] <maek> sorry to have wasted your time
[03:11] <maek> thanks for the hand holding and such.
[03:11] <RAOF> Oooh, so they are.  It needs a newer version of those libs; thus you _will_ have to check out xcb-misc from git.
[03:12] <maek> RAOF: ok thanks. how do you do the underline?
[03:12] <maek> oh, _
[03:17] <RAOF> IRC psueudo-formatting FTW!
[03:17] <maek> :)
[03:18] <maek> one last question and ill stop abusing this channel. is there a way to tell the compile options for a given pkg?
[03:19] <RAOF> You mean, package in Ubuntu?  Not particularly easily, no.
[03:19] <maek> RAOF: ok thanks
[03:19] <RAOF> You can go to the source package's page on launchpad, and go to the buildlog, and hunt for CFLAGS or whatever :)
[03:20] <maek> blah, awesome built, ill just assume cario has the proper things compiled in
[03:22] <RAOF> Quite likely.
[06:39] <Hew> When will http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ be updated to track the Jaunty development releases? There needs to be somewhere to point new testing users, rather than finding isos for them individually.
[10:27] <Vahids> i need a command for restart my pci card, without restart Computer
[10:27] <Vahids> ??
[10:27] <Vahids> is this exist ???
[13:51] <nblracer> howdy
[13:51] <BUGabundo_work> hi nblracer
[13:51] <nblracer> looking for some/advices
[13:51] <BUGabundo_work> shoot
[13:52] <nblracer> my mobo just died, i was using a raid 0 array
[13:52] <nblracer> i can not find a replacment motherboard
[13:52] <nblracer> with the same raid controllor
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> ah ah
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> so?
[13:53] <nblracer> can i use mdadm to rebuild it?
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> I don't know!
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> raid aint my field
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> you are better trying for help at #ubuntu-server
[13:54] <nblracer> will try
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> okay
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> let us know how it when
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> I'm always curious to learn a bit more
[13:55] <nblracer> rgr
[13:55] <nblracer> when i mount a drives does it write at all to the drive
[13:56] <nblracer> and is there a way to mount a drive in like a read only state
[14:00] <Hew> nblracer: you can mount read-only with the -r option for mount, see man mount
[14:01] <nblracer> thanks
[14:02] <nblracer> thats should help, this away i can mess around a bit with out the drives getting screwed up
[14:03] <nblracer> hew, but doesn't ubuntu auto mount drives at start up?
[14:03] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[14:03] <BUGabundo_work> won't mounting both disk separeted be of no used?
[14:04] <nblracer> yes
[14:04] <BUGabundo_work> I don't think it automounts RAID volumes
[14:04] <nblracer> but im going to play around with mdadm
[14:04] <Hew> nblracer: "auto mount" is performed based on your /etc/fstab, make sure you remove/comment out relevant lines
[14:04] <nblracer> it is a softweare base raid system
[14:04] <BUGabundo_work> but were the disks in strip or mirror?
[14:04] <Hew> nblracer: and if you're trying to recover a RAID 0 array, I wouldn't be mounting them until you have the right controller
[14:04] <nblracer> strip
[14:05] <BUGabundo_work> yeah for strip you will need MD working
[14:05] <BUGabundo_work> nothing yet on #u-server?
[14:05] <nblracer> i was going to use software raid, i cant find the same mobo oir even one close whith the correct chip
[14:05] <nblracer> no
[14:06]  * Hew is pleased he has got over RAID :P
[14:06] <nblracer> and really it not a ubuntu question, i just know there is always smart people in here
[14:07] <nblracer> but you think that will work hew? has anyone done this before
[14:07] <BUGabundo_work> I tried it once
[14:08] <BUGabundo_work> after using clonezilla to backup 2 striped disks
[14:08] <BUGabundo_work> but never manage to make it work again
[14:08] <Hew> nblracer: Done what? I don't have experience with software RAID. If the question is you have an array created with a hardware controller and you want to recover it with a software controller, then I think the answer is no.
[14:09] <Hew> nblracer: Do you have a backup of the data, or is it your only copy?
[14:09] <nblracer> my back up server, was not correctly synced up
[14:10] <nblracer> so no
[14:10] <nblracer> :(
[14:11] <Hew> nblracer: I think the only solution is to find the same hardware controller, unfortunately
[14:13] <Hew> Personally, this is why I avoid RAID. The risks and consequences outweigh the benefits, at least for me.
[14:14] <nblracer> this happen last weekend, and i have been searching the net
[14:15] <nblracer> i only found one replacement m0bo and they are charging 2X as much as i paid for it 7 years
[14:16] <nblracer> i think my next machine will be a raid5, or raid0 again just with OS and software, no personal data
[14:17] <nblracer> i realy like the faster read and write speeds it made all the difference for me
[14:17] <nblracer> specialty with video editing and capturing
[14:18] <BUGabundo_work> nblracer: humm SSD then?! lol
[14:20] <Hew> I can't wait until SSDs become mainstream :D
[14:20] <nblracer> i thought SSD would be faster then what they are
[14:21] <nblracer> if i remember right a WD raptor is faster then the average SSD
[14:24] <BUGabundo_work> come on!!! it's a raptor... LOL
[14:26] <nblracer> but it has moving parts ( well at 10,000 rpm) lol
[14:27] <loic-m> nblracer, don't give up on recovering your raid. It's not the same, but I remember 15 years ago when a distribution botched my mbr and overlaped to another partition on the hd, everybody on the net said it was impossible. I really needed the data, and eventually found the solution on an obscure page. Nowadays it's trivial, there's even programs to do that automagically. I would be surprised if some firms didn't offer the service for a cost, and of a
[14:27] <loic-m> firm can do it, anybody can do it.
[14:27] <loic-m> s/of a/if a
[14:28] <nblracer> thats what i say
[14:28] <loic-m> If you really need your raid now but can wait to recover the data, just a dd of the partitions and you'll try to recover that when you'll have a few hours/days to spend looking on the net
[14:28] <BUGabundo_work> as long as you have the data
[14:28] <nblracer> but i went around to a few locol computer shopes for advice, and that was scary
[14:29] <BUGabundo_work> I guess you can use software to scrape it ...
[14:29] <loic-m> Never trust a computer shop.
[14:29] <BUGabundo_work> plus, most of them don't know GNU/Linux
[14:30] <nblracer> 1/2 don't know what a raid was, the other did not know the servirity of the problem, and thought i could connect to any raid controllor and that it will auto rebuild and work
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> LOL
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> well, they ARE trying to help
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> eheh
[14:32] <loic-m> The other solution is to find a friend with the same controller, or if you're desesperate by the mobo and resell it (or send it back if you can, but that's borderline)
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> I would dd the disk to images, make an extra set of backups, and start trying to scrape the data!
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> I have no idea, but can MD even be used to mount that=
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> ?
[14:34] <nblracer> to me there is something wrong with me paying $450 for a 7 yeat old mobo, for a computer i'm ready to replaces
[14:34] <loic-m> how can a mobo cost that much? It's dual socket?
[14:34] <nblracer> no
[14:35] <nblracer> i paid 200 for it new
[14:35] <nblracer> it is a asus p4t533
[14:35] <nblracer> has rdram though
[14:36] <loic-m> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ASUS-P4T533-C-Motherboard-850e-SOCKET-478-FSB533-400_W0QQitemZ180309865342QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item180309865342&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
[14:36] <nblracer> not c
[14:36] <nblracer> c has no raid on it
[14:39]  * genii sips and thinks about RamBus
[14:40] <nblracer> rambus sucks
[14:40] <nblracer> worst move i made in building this system
[14:41] <loic-m> is the southbridge responsible for the raid, or is it a special chipset?
[14:41] <nblracer> or it was way ahaed of it time
[14:41] <nblracer> spechail chip
[14:41] <nblracer> promise pdc20276
[14:42] <nblracer> do you think this will help?
[14:42] <nblracer> http://linux-raid.osdl.org/index.php/Permute_array.pl
[14:42] <loic-m> as said, people on a -server ml (even generic, or linux related) would know better, but possibly contacting asus or the raid chipset maker would tell you if some newer chipsets are bw compatible
[14:44] <nblracer> i called asus and they said my best luck would to find a replacment mobo
[14:45] <loic-m> I don't have a clue. I don't know perl, and never had to use a raid. It seems more for people that forgot how their raid was assembled, I expect you remember that (especialy with only two drives)
[14:45] <loic-m> they didn't try really hard...
[14:45] <nblracer> but i will call promise now
[14:46] <nblracer> well in building this array, i only had three options AV, desktop, server
[14:46] <loic-m> Email them. You never get anybody on a phone.
[14:47] <loic-m> they must have documented what it translates to in raid terms, and they'll know if they use the same on newer chips.
[14:49] <nblracer> or tell me the strip sizes and offsets if any
[14:52] <nblracer> blah to early
[14:52] <nblracer> got to wait a few hours
[14:58] <nblracer> this looks hopefull http://man-wiki.net/index.php/8:mdadm#ASSEMBLE_MODE
[14:59] <nblracer> I realy should DD a copy  but dont have a big enough harddrive laying around
[15:01] <BUGabundo_work> time to spend some money in buying one?
[15:01] <BUGabundo_work> clonezilla does a great job compressing them
[15:03] <loic-m> mdadm seems limited to software raid, so I don't know. A DD depends on the value of what you have - if it represents years of work, it's worth it, considering since it will be your first time attempting that there's good chances you'll mess up at least part of it.
[15:04] <loic-m> http://recovery-review.com/unformat-tools/diskinternals-raid-recovery.html shows that it's possible even for hw raid, you only have to learn how to do that with Linux. Then write a good howto on ubuntu wiki...
[15:06] <nblracer> could i buy a huge drive, partion it in 3 places. one for drive a, another drive B, and the third  is where i can try to merge A and B
[15:09] <nblracer> here is another revovery tool
[15:09] <nblracer> http://www.runtime.org/raid.htm
[15:09] <nblracer> only they were open source....
[15:11] <loic-m> I think with a third disk, you just plug your two disks that were in the raid, but plug them as individual disks, mount them read-only and use a software to recover the data.
[15:12] <nblracer> so do DD each drive that was on the raid
[15:12] <nblracer> `````````````````woops
[15:13] <nblracer> dont i ment to say
[15:16] <loic-m> With a third disk, no DD is necessary, but you need a program that will try to recover the data. DD is only good if you want to reuse the two drives immediatly and save the data recovery for latter
[15:18] <loic-m> but you should also definitely try with promise to see if their dedicated raid cards could do the job - that way you keep using the same raid without modifications (even though I'd rather run software raid than hw)
[17:22] <nblracer> loic-m: just got of the phone with promise
[17:39] <loic-m> and?
[17:42] <nblracer> get there raid controllor
[17:42] <nblracer> it should work
[17:43] <nblracer> he said it might be possable to do it with softweare, but it not worth the time
[17:47] <loic-m> it's worth the time if you can make it your job ;) or if you want to document it for others. But (even though I'd like to see a good howto for Linux) getting a controller is cheap, and you can reuse it on a new computer. Nice to know it's compatible, I can't remember the number of time I hear of people with hw raid that go and track an identical mb for a high cost.
[17:48] <nblracer> only problem is he sugested one that was ata133 and another that was ata100
[17:49] <nblracer> he thought what i had was ata100, but i just looked in The Man. it is ata133
[17:50] <nblracer> should i pay the extra money for ata133? i know my drives support it
[18:02] <loic-m> that's up to you. I've gone sata looong ago and wouldn't want to switch back. For someone that bought a RAMBUS mb, you seem to chose your technology wisely ;)
[18:06] <loic-m> btw, a recent sata hd would output over 100MB/s on a first partition that would match the size of your raid, all with an access time that could be close to half your average. Get your data out the cheapest way possible, and with the savings get a good sata drive.
[18:16] <nblracer> i agree
[18:16] <nblracer> i just a referbished ata133 one
[18:16] <nblracer> get my data back, and build a new rig with the core I7
[19:40] <nblracer> what is a good recomended softweare to play music and videio from my ipod in ubuntu
[19:41] <nblracer> gtkpod? or is there a better plugin for Rhythmbox?
[19:45] <ikonia> !offtopic
[22:34] <Spencerical> is there a name for Ubuntu I.+? I.+? Yet?
[22:34] <Spencerical> sorry k
[22:35] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: Are you asking about Intrepid + 1 name?
[22:35] <admin_masu3701> hello
[22:35] <charlie-tca> hello
[22:35] <admin_masu3701> i install dual boot ubuntu and windowns
[22:36] <Spencerical> charlie-tca, no, Jaunty +1
[22:36] <admin_masu3701> when i boot into windowns it wont boot all the way
[22:36] <admin_masu3701> it stop at some point and say need to restor system
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: I don´t think it has been selected yet. Don't they decide during UDS?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> admin_masu3701: What point did it stop? did it get to the login window? Did you see the splash screen?
[22:37] <Spencerical> charlie-tca: I wouldn't know...
[22:38] <charlie-tca> Spencerical: me too. I just do not think they picked it yet.
[22:38] <Spencerical> ok
[22:41] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: no it didnt get to the login
[22:41] <charlie-tca> Was this the first boot after installation?
[22:41] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: it stops just before that and say Recovery center
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> says: Choose a program
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> Windows system Restore
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> hardware diagnosics
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> Restore C: Drive
[22:42] <admin_masu3701> REscue Data
[22:43] <charlie-tca> What is the last thing you did to the system? Is this right after installing Ubuntu?
[22:44] <admin_masu3701> after install in did a sudo /atc/grub/boot/menu... and # commented out stuff that i didnt want to appear
[22:45] <admin_masu3701> just left ubuntun and windows
[22:46] <charlie-tca> I think you should comment it back and see if it will boot windows.
[22:46] <admin_masu3701> ok
[22:46] <admin_masu3701> let me try
[23:07] <admin_masu3701> charlie-tca: i did uncommanded thm out but still facing the same issue
[23:11] <charlie-tca> Maybe one of these will help. I have not run windows since 3.1 myself. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[23:19] <admin_masu3701> i cant play vedeos on youtube says i need to install flash
[23:19] <admin_masu3701> can somone tell me how to install flash on ubuntu?
[23:24] <Frijolie> i've got a broken package on Jaunty and I can't seem to get it fixed...
[23:24] <Frijolie> any suggestions?
[23:27] <admin_masu3701> can play videos..do anyone know what i need to do?
[23:33] <admin_masu3701> cant play vidoes on youtube..do anybody know what the problem may be?
[23:37] <Frijolie> may not have flash installed?
[23:38] <admin_masu3701> Frijolie: how to i install it?
[23:39] <Frijolie> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[23:45] <admin_masu3701> Frijolie: i run into an erro message
[23:59] <nikolam> admin_masu3701, 32bit or 64bit? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772490