[00:49] <Riggspc> hello?
[00:50] <cody-somerville> Hi
[00:50] <Riggspc> im a noob
[00:50] <Riggspc> ill say that right now
[00:50] <Riggspc> but is this where i go for ubuntu help?
[00:52] <The-Kernel> Riggspc: for Xubuntu, yes
[00:52] <Riggspc> well, like i said im a noob
[00:52] <Riggspc> how do i konw if i have xubuntu?
[00:52] <Riggspc> know*
[01:31] <j_xinudsb> tough crowd today
[01:32] <yotux> can anyone assist me on how to add a partition to fstab?
[01:32] <knome> !fstab
[01:32] <knome> !partitions
[01:32] <knome> yotux, ^
[01:32] <yotux> thanks
[01:34] <yotux> I used to be able to but since uuid came into the mix I was unsure
[01:34] <charlie-tca> Hey, knome! how's it going
[01:34] <djbushdio> what specifically do you need to do? I recommend using gparted for partition editing
[01:35] <knome> charlie-tca, great. we are getting some serious work done with cody-somerville, NCommander and JPohlmann
[01:35] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, I was looking for you earlier
[01:35] <charlie-tca> Good to hear. Wish I was too
[01:35] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, I want to talk to you about leading up Jaunty testing and QA efforts.
[01:35] <charlie-tca> What´s up, cody-somerville
[01:35] <charlie-tca> Anytime?
[01:36] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: Got time now?
[01:36] <knome> charlie-tca, he has :P
[01:36] <knome> charlie-tca, sitting next to me and talking to jannis
[01:36] <charlie-tca> Thanks, Knightlust
[01:36] <charlie-tca> knome: thanks!
[01:36] <knome> haha. :]
[01:38] <charlie-tca> I been hiding today. Finally got new images to test :-)
[01:38] <knome> heh
[02:22] <yotux> is there a way to reconfigure grub to add oses that where no there when xubuntu was installed?
[02:23] <charlie-tca> Yes, yotux
[02:24] <charlie-tca> edit the menu.lst file in /boot/grub
[02:24] <yotux> can you point me to the proper documentation?
[02:24] <charlie-tca> give me a minute to find it
[02:24] <yotux> ty
[02:28] <charlie-tca> yotux: This is good to get you into menu.lst to add: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[02:28] <charlie-tca> This one is better for what to edit to add an OS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:08] <aboucher> i have a computer with about 64 mb of ram is xubuntu good for that computer
[04:11] <charlie-tca> 64MB is a little small. I have loaded it and run on 128MB, but it is very slow.
[04:12] <charlie-tca> What is the CPU? On a 400MHz CPU with 384MB ram, you run one program at a time
[04:16] <aboucher> i have intel pentium I mmx
[04:19] <charlie-tca> I don't think you will be very happy with it. It will be really slow, and will freeze often.
[04:20] <charlie-tca> Any way you could increase the memory to 256 or 512MB?
[04:26] <aboucher> i dont have any memory sticks
[04:29] <charlie-tca> I could suggest trying puppy linux on it. Should have better speed and less freezes.
[04:31] <charlie-tca> You can find it through http://distrowatch.com/
[04:41] <aboucher> i think i'll just use fluxbuntu
[04:43] <Ivo_Helory> anyone know how to fix booting splash @ center by 1024x768 console resolution?
[04:44] <aboucher> nope
[07:07] <R1cochet> when i click switch user and leave it at login screen im automatically logged back in after a couple minutes
[07:07] <R1cochet> anything i can do so im not logged back in automatically
[07:08] <dnyy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882497
[07:08] <dnyy> I don't have a solution myself, but a quick google search came up with that.  Might help ya.
[07:10] <R1cochet> thats exactly what is my problem but theres no solution there :( just multiple people with the same problem
[07:10] <R1cochet> thank you tho
[07:12] <R1cochet> where can i find the login properties?
[07:20] <dnyy> Yeah, after linking that I realized there were no answers, lol. my bad. :(
[07:21] <dnyy> There's "Sessions and Startup" in the settings manager
[07:21] <dnyy> But there's not many options :/
[07:23] <dnyy> ah, there's also Settings -> Login Window
[07:24] <dnyy> The security tab has some options about auto logins and timed logins, that might be of some help. i'm pretty new to xfce, so beyond the obvious I don't know. :(
[07:25] <R1cochet> yea didnt see anything there
[07:26] <dnyy> yeah, a lot of settings in xfce seem to have no GUI
[07:26] <dnyy> and rely on editing config files. :/
[07:52] <R1cochet> so to rewyouest something like that woyould you go to xyoubyountyou or xfce?
[07:52] <R1cochet> request*
[07:52] <R1cochet> xubuntu*
[07:52] <dnyy> I honestly have no clue, but I would imagine xubuntu.  I don't think xfce handles the setting GUIs or anything. Could be wrong, though.
[07:54] <R1cochet> ok
[08:02] <Sinister`> i get spam from 30 differnt @verizon.net addys but mine is verizon can i filter so i only get the ones to: my addy ?
[08:46] <insan> ermm
[08:46] <insan> hiii all of u
[08:46] <insan> i'm newbie
[08:48] <dnyy> 'elo :)
[09:36] <R1cochet> if i remove gnome-screensaver and add xscreensaver will i have to add xscreensaver to auto started apps?
[11:14] <yakuzza> hi
[11:46] <heap1> does anyone have a dell laptop and experience really random system lockups?
[11:47] <gabkdlly> heap1: yes, and no
[11:48] <heap1> i have had real problems with ubuntu 8.04.1, random system freezing
[11:48] <heap1> should i try xubuntu?
[11:49] <dnyy> it's worth a shot
[11:49] <gabkdlly> heap1: it is probably a better idea to see if you can isolate what causes the crashes
[11:49] <gabkdlly> m1330?
[11:49] <dnyy> my laptop was freezing up a lot in ubuntu 8.10
[11:49] <heap1> i know i dont know how to do that mate
[11:49] <dnyy> has yet to freeze in xubuntu
[11:49] <heap1> im really new, and my system will probably crash in a minute!!
[11:49] <heap1> #i have a forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006394 if you could take a look i would appreciate it
[12:01] <heap1> is xubuntu similar to regular ubuntu?
[12:04] <gabkdlly> heap1: yes
[12:05] <gabkdlly> one of xubuntu's aims is to consume less system resources
[12:05] <gabkdlly> but the base system is the same
[12:06] <heap1> gabkdlly: i am using a m1530 and have system crashes using 8.04.1
[12:06] <heap1> really random crashes too
[12:07] <gabkdlly> describe some of the things you are doing when it crashes
[12:07] <heap1> i just wondered if xubuntu would be worth a try, maybe it will run more stable? i just dont have trust in what im doing
[12:08] <heap1> ok.
[12:09] <heap1> well this morning , it froze on the startup screen showing "ubuntu"... then i had to hold down the power button to turn it off. after that restart, it froze again in firefox after like 5 minutes. no mouse movement no response at all
[12:10] <heap1> i have installed all the updates lastnight, 260 odd mb's worth..
[12:11] <heap1> this is the longest session without a hang, im quite shocked !
[12:12] <yakuzza> how can i add programms to the autostart of xubuntu ?
[12:12] <yakuzza> i started with linux yesterday :D
[12:13] <heap1> me2
[12:13] <heap1> & its causing me a headache!
[12:13] <yakuzza> not only you :D
[12:13] <yakuzza> i am so much a graphical windows noob :D
[12:14] <heap1> im quite happy with linux, but its freezing on me randomly yakuzza lad.. sooo frustraiting!
[12:14] <yakuzza> for example how long it took me how to share with my windows
[12:14] <yakuzza> ok, its not freezing for me so i just have the software issue
[12:15] <heap1> ask gabkdlly, he seems experienced..
[12:15] <heap1> or try the forums, thats what i have done but i cant get to the bottom of this issue
[12:15] <yakuzza> yeah, i am in the wikiś right now
[12:16] <gabkdlly> yakuzza: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Autostarted Apps
[12:16] <yakuzza> for example i can get tightvnc running
[12:16] <yakuzza> hi
[12:16] <yakuzza> thx
[12:16] <gabkdlly> heap1: I just read through your forum entry
[12:17] <heap1> ok what do you think ?
[12:17] <heap1> am i doomed?! hah
[12:17] <gabkdlly> no warm in trying a clean install of xubuntu
[12:17] <heap1> yeah i think i will lad
[12:17] <gabkdlly> I would not mess around with restricted drivers and such if you don't really need them
[12:17] <heap1> can i do the same things as in regular ubunut, like openoffice and the like?
[12:18] <gabkdlly> start a clean install, document EVERYTHING you do, and go from there
[12:18] <gabkdlly> all the programs that run under ubuntu will also run under xubuntu
[12:18] <heap1> gabkdlly: the only thing i have changed is a nvidia driver and all the updates
[12:19] <gabkdlly> try whether your crashes also occur when you refrain from installing the restricted nvidia
[12:19] <gabkdlly> if they do, write down what you had done to make the crash happen
[12:20] <gabkdlly> the more specific you can be, the more people will be able to help
[12:20] <gabkdlly> the forum is a good place to post your documentation of steps to reproduce your crashes
[12:22] <gabkdlly> heap1: you might even just try removing the nvidia drivers and see if that fixes your problems
[12:22] <gabkdlly> but trying xubuntu won't hurt :)
[12:26] <heapy> well that was a crash gabkdlly
[12:26] <heapy> i just disabled the nvidia restricted drivers and restarted again.. see what happens eh ? : )
[12:26] <gabkdlly> heapy: did you try reverting to the default driver rather than the restricted nvidia?
[12:26] <gabkdlly> yes, good idea
[12:28] <heapy> yeah i have, its annoying if this is the fix tho.. cus surely the system is better to be using the actual drivers for the parts. how do i for instance run a 3d game or run those funky effects without a decent driver installed? .. but then again if the system is stable without then thats good enough i suppose
[12:29] <gabkdlly> heapy: if you narrow the problem down to the restricted drivers, it might be worth you while to file a bug report
[12:32] <gabkdlly> heapy: i can't promise you that nvidia will listen to you, though
[12:32] <heapy> whats strange is , some people on the forum have replied to my post. & they are running very similar setups without any problems at all... nvidia drivers installed, blah blah.. so i just dont know its bamboozeling me
[12:32] <gabkdlly> launchpad would be the first place to try and report a bug, but only once you have narrowed down what is causing the problem
[12:33] <gabkdlly> what were you doing when this last crash happened?
[12:33] <gabkdlly> what programs were running?
[12:33] <heapy> talking to you on irc
[12:33] <heapy> firefox, the pigeon thingy im using now & thats it
[12:33] <gabkdlly> hmmm
[12:34] <gabkdlly> you might look at the logs in /var/log/
[12:34] <heapy> how do i get there?
[12:34] <gabkdlly> sometimes you can gather something usefull from them
[12:34] <gabkdlly> open a terminal, and type "cd /var/log/"
[12:34] <heapy> okay.......
[12:35] <heapy> i have /var/log
[12:36] <heapy> auth.log, daemon.log , debug, kern.log, messages, syslog, user.log and xorg.0.log
[12:37] <gabkdlly> yup, lots of stuff to look at
[12:38] <gabkdlly> maybe "less dmesg.0" for example
[12:38] <gabkdlly> or syslog
[12:39] <gabkdlly> syslog.0
[12:39] <gabkdlly> I think that without the 0 is the one currently being written to, i.e. for this session
[12:40] <gabkdlly> with the 0 should then be the one from the previous boot, the one that had the crash
[12:40] <heapy> i found these logs using system/administration/system log - are they the  same as going threw terminal?
[12:41] <gabkdlly> ah, good job, I did not even know that GUI existed :)
[12:41] <heapy> in that case, i dont have a syslog.0 only without the .0
[12:42] <gabkdlly> in the terminal, type "ls" after having done "cd /var/log"
[12:42] <heapy> learn something new everyday, and im on learning overdrive!
[12:42] <heapy> oky.....
[12:44] <gabkdlly> oh, in the gui you can do File -> open
[12:44] <gabkdlly> and then select the previous log
[12:45] <heapy> thats better, i was struggling in terminal.. i typed cd /var/log Is then it said /var/log$ is
[12:49] <gabkdlly> heapy: I am getting ready to go now, but I subscribed to your forum thread
[12:49] <heapy> is right lad. have a nice day thanks for the help
[12:50] <heapy> .... i have my head buried in syslogs etc tara
[12:50] <gabkdlly|away> scroll down to the bottom and see if there is anything interesting
[13:18] <heapy> bbs
[14:17] <sniperlt> hello is anyone up in here and at the keyboard
[14:17] <sniperlt> How can I tell which network manager I am running?
[14:18] <gabkdlly|away> hi
[14:19] <sniperlt> hello gabkdlly
[14:19] <gabkdlly> if you have not changed it, you are running the one provided by the package network-manager-gnome
[14:21] <sniperlt> how can I tell?
[14:22] <gabkdlly> in a terminal, type "aptitude search network-manager"
[14:22] <gabkdlly> there will be an "i" before the packages that are installed
[14:34] <sniperlt> none of them have an i gabkdlly
[14:35] <sniperlt> they either have a c or a p
[14:38] <sniperlt> Hello anyoen home
[14:42] <gabkdlly> hi
[14:42] <gabkdlly> hmmm, I can't remember what c and p mean
[14:42]  * gabkdlly does a "man aptitude"
[14:44] <gabkdlly> sniperlt: I do believe that means you don't have a network manager installed
[14:45] <gabkdlly> i guess you must have inadvertantly removed it
[14:45] <gabkdlly> wierd
[14:45] <sniperlt> then how am I talking to you
[14:47] <gabkdlly> hey, try "ps -ef | grep NetworkManager"
[14:48] <sniperlt> 11564 10540  0 06:48 pts/0    00:00:00 grep NetworkManager
[14:48] <gabkdlly> I have my network configured in /etc/network/interfaces, and have deactivated the applet
[14:49] <gabkdlly> that is all the output you get?
[14:49] <gabkdlly> that would indicate that you don't have the network-manager daemon running
[14:49] <gabkdlly> which would be consistent with it not being installed on your system
[14:50] <sniperlt> The once again how am I talking to you?
[14:50] <gabkdlly> the manager is not essential to having an internet connection
[14:50] <sniperlt> Well I ask becasue prior to installing 8.04 I had wicd running
[14:50] <sniperlt> and it gave me a nice littel icon in the top panel
[14:51] <sniperlt> Well I have it reinstalled to autostart
[14:51] <sniperlt> but no icon
[14:51] <sniperlt> It must be working since I am talking to you
[14:51] <sniperlt> but I would really like to see that icon
[14:51] <sniperlt> I thought maybe I as still using ns-applet and not knowing it
[14:52] <gabkdlly> check: Applications -> Settings -> Settings Mangager -> autostarted apps
[14:52] <sniperlt> says wicd is check and wicd systems tray is checked too.
[14:52] <gabkdlly> there might be an checkbox there to activate the nework manager applet
[14:52] <sniperlt> and network manager is uncheck.
[14:52] <gabkdlly> wierd
[14:53] <sniperlt> but I wanted to be sure that network manager was not runnign for sure
[14:53] <sniperlt> sorry nm-applet
[14:53] <gabkdlly> from what you have told me, I can say with confidence that you don't have the default network-manager running
[14:53] <gabkdlly> I must confess, I have never used wicd myself
[14:54] <sniperlt> well I am a member of thier forum
[14:54] <gabkdlly> hmmm, wicd is not available in intrepid
[14:54] <sniperlt> but I hate to go there and say. "hey wicd is not working"
[14:54] <sniperlt> You know what I mean
[14:54] <gabkdlly> sure
[14:55] <sniperlt> I would like to be able to have enought knowledge to form and intelligent question.
[14:55] <gabkdlly> but wicd shows up if you do "ps -ef | grep wicd" ?
[14:56] <sniperlt> yes it does
[14:56] <gabkdlly> it has happened to me before that the network-manager is running, an the applet has started, but the icon does not show up properly
[14:57] <gabkdlly> there would just be a blank space in the system tray
[14:58] <gabkdlly> I could click on that blank space, and I would get the options as normal, but without seeing an icon
[14:58] <gabkdlly> it might be a bug with the xfce system tray
[14:58] <sniperlt> nope no blank spamce
[14:58] <sniperlt> spaces
[14:59] <sniperlt> I think its and error with the deamon.
[14:59] <gabkdlly> the space I refer to was a very narrow space, but it was clickable
[14:59] <sniperlt> nope not at all
[15:00] <sniperlt> btw I am a windows person
[15:00] <gabkdlly> no system tray whatsoever?
[15:00] <sniperlt> where exactly is the systray on xubuntu
[15:00] <sniperlt> I think it is in the upper left corner neve the clock
[15:00] <gabkdlly> by default, I believe it is in the upper right hand corner
[15:00] <sniperlt> but wnat to be sure
[15:00] <sniperlt> upper right is what I meant
[15:01] <gabkdlly> I moved mine some time ago, though, so I can't tell you for sure
[15:01] <sniperlt> yes it is there along with the clock icon and this kvirc icont
[15:01] <sniperlt> but no wicd icon
[15:12] <gabkdlly> sniperlt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/263993
[15:14] <gabkdlly> sniperlt: you might contribute your experience to that bug
[15:15] <sniperlt> Actually it goes beyond even that
[15:15] <sniperlt> I got to Applications-->network-wicd
[15:15] <sniperlt> and click and nothing happens
[15:15] <sniperlt> nada
[15:15] <sniperlt> nothing
[15:16] <sniperlt> no indication on screen at all
[15:16] <gabkdlly> wierd
[15:16] <sniperlt> wt
[15:16] <sniperlt> I spoke too soo
[15:16] <sniperlt> soon
[15:17] <sniperlt> this is the first time I have gotten the program interfacte up though
[15:18]  * gabkdlly will be right back
[15:22] <sniperlt> I will be back in 4 hours gabkdlly. Time for me to go pic up this pitiful pay check of mine
[15:32] <privet> where/how do I mount SD/MMC card on my laptop when they are detected by the tifm_core module?
[15:32] <privet> running xubuntu 8.10
[15:38] <Natureshadow> Hi guys :)
[15:39] <Natureshadow> I have this line in my /etc/apt/sources.list :
[15:39] <Natureshadow> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[15:39] <Natureshadow> Any idea why I don't get universe packages over apt ?
[17:37] <heapy> hello
[17:48] <gabkdlly> hi
[17:49] <gabkdlly> so, you are still getting crashes, eh?
[17:50] <heapy> hey gabkdlly lad
[17:53] <heapy> well its weird, i couldnt see anything mager in the syslogs so i went in search of other things that could be causing the crashes. i am using the default video card drivers & it seems a hellova lot more stable but i have had a lockup earlier. i noticed a slight "clicky" noise comming from the hdd so i did a search on forums and found out a few people had that prob too.. so i d/loaded somethin called smartmontools and looked for the load_cycle_count ( good aft
[17:55] <heapy> but im confused by the report so i posted a screenshot on the forum, maybe someone can decipher the output
[17:57] <gabkdlly> it is worth finding out if when the crash occurs, what it has hard crashed, or just appears to have crashed because it is reacting very slowly
[17:57] <heapy> i dont understand that m8
[17:58] <heapy> you mean its worth finding out what the hdd is doing when the system crashes?
[17:59] <gabkdlly> when it crashes, can you still move the mouse? can you switch to a virtual terminal (with Alt-Ctrl-F1)? ist the harddrive working on something?
[17:59] <ViTRoN> anyone know how to get linux running on a samsung epix?
[18:01] <gabkdlly> ViTRoN: you mean the phone?
[18:01] <ViTRoN> yeah
[18:02] <ViTRoN> maxamillion: you there?
[18:02] <heapy> gabkdlly: in #nvidia one of the boys there suggested using something called gentoo : )
[18:04] <maxamillion> ViTRoN: uhmmm... yes, yes i am
[18:04] <ViTRoN> maxamillion: pm me i dont know how to on this irc client
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> /query nick ?
[18:05] <Odd-rationale> usually...
[18:06] <ViTRoN> sweet that worked, im doing this from my phone
[18:11] <gabkdlly> heapy: with gentoo you usually compile everything from source, which usually takes a while
[18:11] <gabkdlly> heapy: the learning curve for gentoo is kind of steep
[18:11] <heapy> sod that then lad
[18:12] <gabkdlly> heapy: you do a lot on the commandline
[18:12] <heapy> dude, im struggling to spell let alone use command line
[18:12] <gabkdlly> commandline = terminal
[18:12] <gabkdlly> = console
[18:13] <heapy> what do you think to this, tryin the nvidia drivers from their website and manually installing them?
[18:13] <heapy> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82.pkg1.run
[18:13] <gabkdlly> the ones from the website are not the ones you had before?
[18:13] <heapy> from the website
[18:13] <heapy> im not sure lad!!!!
[18:14] <gabkdlly> I guess there is not harm in trying, you can always do a clean install if things go bad
[18:14] <heapy> i just went threw hardware drivers, and it found some nvidia one's. i assumed they were the latest but it didnt show a version
[18:14] <gabkdlly> i stay away from restricted drivers whenever possible, binary blobs scare me
[18:15] <gabkdlly> what were you doing right before the last crash?
[18:15] <heapy> you have to get the gfx card running as it should tho right? i mean otherwise having a geforce card is pointless, as bad as intergrated innit
[18:16] <heapy> nothing much, a bit of work on open office and had a website open
[18:17] <gabkdlly> heapy: how much ram do you have?
[18:18] <heapy> 3gb
[18:19] <heapy> i am using ubuntu 32bit
[18:20] <gabkdlly> hmmm
[18:20] <gabkdlly> doesn't the xps1530 come with a 64-bit processor?
[18:20] <heapy> mmm
[18:20] <gabkdlly> I have been told it does not make a difference
[18:20] <heapy> i dont know m8
[18:21] <gabkdlly> you can do "sudo lshw" to find out
[18:21] <heapy> i thought it only mattered if u have more than 4gb of ram
[18:21] <heapy> okay....
[18:21] <gabkdlly> I think you are right, actually
[18:22] <heapy> it says width 64bit?
[18:27] <heapy> i quick google does say the processor is 64bit
[18:28] <gabkdlly> i guess you could try installing 64-bit ubuntu, but my guess is that it would not make a difference
[18:29] <knome> 32 and 64 bit version do have some differences
[18:29] <knome> you should install 64-bit
[18:29] <knome> if you have a 64-bit cpu
[18:30] <heapy> knome:  i have 3gb of ram tho
[18:30] <heapy> i mean, oh i dont know im so confused lol
[18:30] <knome> heapy, no problem. you should go for 64-bit
[18:30] <heapy> okay i will d.load the 64bit version and give that a whirl
[18:31] <knome> great.
[18:31] <gabkdlly> heapy: good luck
[18:31] <heapy> knome: lad, dont suppose u have a nvidia gfx card?@
[18:31] <knome> heapy, actually i do on my desktop pc
[18:31] <knome> but i'm hundreds of miles away from it
[18:32] <heapy> gabkdlly: have u experienced anything like random freezes and lockups for no apparent reason after installin the drivers? (i think its the drivers anyway, gabkdlly told me to use the standard) and the system ran fine
[18:33] <knome> haven't had any problems.
[18:33] <heapy> okay thought i would ask
[18:34] <heapy> look at this if u get a chance, i have had really shitty problems with ubuntu.. im new to linux and setting up a stable machine has made my head throb!
[18:34] <heapy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6356078#post6356078
[18:34] <heapy> cheers im off to try 64bit x
[20:54] <heapy> hello
[20:56] <privet> how/where do I mount devices mapped with the "tifm" module?
[20:56] <privet> running 8.10
[21:34] <knome> tifm?
[21:34] <knome> uhoh
[21:35] <aug_aug> hello?
[21:35] <aug_aug> how do I add simdock to sessions in xfce
[21:35] <aug_aug> that's my question
[21:35] <aug_aug> the session manager has no "new" option
[21:36] <aug_aug> in xubuntu I mean
[21:38] <knome> aug_aug, run simdock (and any other apps you want to be loaded right after login), close any apps you don't want to see right after login, go to quit-dialog and check to save session, logout and back in, then logout back again and uncheck the box.
[21:38] <Odd-rationale> aug_aug: do you have applications --> settings --> settings manager --> autostarted applications?
[21:38] <knome> or the way Odd-rationale suggests
[21:39] <Odd-rationale> yeah... i don't like using saved sessions... it sometimes messes things up...
[21:39] <aug_aug> Oh man, I was looking right at it! I kept opening sessions and startup, thanks!
[21:39] <knome> yes. i don't like them either
[21:39] <knome> we're disabling session by default in jaunty
[21:39] <knome> i think they might be disabled by default in intrepid as well
[21:41] <aug_aug> I think it's set to ask at shutdown by default
[21:41] <aug_aug> at least that's what mine did
[21:41] <knome> yes it asks. but it that option isn't enabled by default
[21:41] <knome> i suppose that even the option gets removed from jaunty
[21:43] <aug_aug> I'm gonna try Simdock now, this is the first time i've used IRC, can I bookmark this channel somehow?
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> aug_aug: yeah, some irc clients support that...
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> like pidgin and xchat.
[21:44] <aug_aug> Thanks, I found it, I'm using pidgin
[21:44] <aug_aug> thanks for the help guys
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> good luck!
[22:44] <Dev_n00b> Xubuntu gives me cramfs: wrong magic and something about needing ext3fs on dev/sdc.  I am booting using Wubi.  Any ideas?