| stgraber | http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/ltsp/ contain both packages | 00:03 |
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| stgraber | I couldn't test the package on a jaunty system but the intrepid backport I made is working fine (and is actually kind-of in production as we needed these features) | 00:04 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: are you going to get that into -updates or -backports? | 00:09 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: well, for now the intrepid one is in my PPA, it won't be uploaded to -updates as it's really hard to cherrypick fixes for ltsp but I'll probably ask for a backport. | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: how much is feature addition though? | 00:23 |
| LaserJock | I wonder if it could get squeezed into a SRU | 00:24 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: integrating the whole ltsp-cluster, getting a replacement for configure-x (xorg configuration file generation), adding a xdg menu generator for the localapps, addind xinitrc.d and screen-session.d, moving a good part of the C code to shell when possible (mainly in ldm) | 00:25 |
| stgraber | as I said, not easy to cherry-pick from :) | 00:25 |
| LaserJock | what's the reason for C -> shell ? | 00:26 |
| stgraber | and these are really new features, I don't think there is any reported bug on LP fixed by that (I'd need to have one more look) | 00:26 |
| stgraber | because starting X from the C code was really weird and making changing the X parameters really hard | 00:26 |
| LaserJock | I see | 00:27 |
| stgraber | we also moved the session open from the C code to an rc script, so we can easily add a script changing the environment (as we source these and the final (gnome-session/kde/..) has the whole environement set) | 00:27 |
| stgraber | oh, we also added .dmrc support to store the language and session | 00:27 |
| stgraber | added serial printer support too | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | ok, well I know sbalneav was eager to get some Intrepid stuff into Hardy | 00:28 |
| LaserJock | I just wondered how much of this new stuff would be bug fixing | 00:28 |
| stgraber | yeah, hardy is a bit broken | 00:28 |
| stgraber | so intrepid => hardy needs a few SRU, jaunty => intrepid doesn't it's mostly new features | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | right | 00:30 |
| stgraber | LaserJock: ogra_ did the upload | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | stgraber: good, I haven't even got my jaunty chroot made :-) | 00:52 |
| ogra_ | who needs a chroot ... | 00:56 |
| * ogra_ just debsigned | 00:56 | |
| LaserJock | ogra_: old habit I guess ;-) | 00:58 |
| ogra_ | no need for that for stgraber's ltsp uploads ... just do them :) | 00:59 |
| ogra_ | he should do them already, it's just buerocracy thats in the way | 00:59 |
| stgraber | yeah ... | 00:59 |
| ogra_ | slacking motu council ... | 00:59 |
| nubae | LaserJock: should I make the apps page with an app icon? | 01:01 |
| LaserJock | nubae: why not | 01:02 |
| nubae | yeah did without one and it looks quite silly... | 01:03 |
| nubae | problem is not all apps have icons... what do I do for those? | 01:11 |
| LaserJock | nubae: which ones don't? | 01:12 |
| nubae | weird ones, for example: DDV Sequence Alignment Viewer | 01:14 |
| nubae | maybe I'm looking in the wrong place... I'm using the net to look for relevant websites | 01:17 |
| LaserJock | why the heck is DDV Sequence Alignment Viewer doing on your list? | 01:18 |
| nubae | I'm using the the ubuntu-apps edu spreadsheet | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | don't use that | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | use the seeds | 01:19 |
| nubae | k | 01:19 |
| LaserJock | only a handfull of the apps on the list are in Edubuntu | 01:19 |
| nubae | ok? ??? | 01:19 |
| nubae | also.. should I make them clickable install then? | 01:20 |
| nubae | U did tell me to use the spreadsheet as a base... | 01:21 |
| LaserJock | not for Hardy and Intrepid | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | for Hardy and Intrepid we need to list what we *actually* support/ship | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | for Jaunty we're looking at expanding all that and using these bundles | 01:22 |
| LaserJock | *which* will come from the spreadsheet | 01:23 |
| nubae | ok, so the spreadsheet is Juanty related then? | 01:23 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:23 |
| nubae | k, I learn something new... :-) | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | that's why I said to not worry about the spreadsheet so much | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | because it's sort of a different issue than the app lists for Hardy & Intrepid | 01:25 |
| LaserJock | and also why I showed you the seeds :-) | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | so hopefully that will make your life *much* easier ;-) | 01:26 |
| nubae | for the current distro yes | 01:26 |
| LaserJock | nubae: perhaps though could you make a new column on that spreadsheet that gives which apps you found didn't have an icon? | 01:30 |
| nubae | ok, so I list all, but put a generic edubuntu icon infront of non icon apps? | 01:33 |
| LaserJock | not on edubuntu.org | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | I just meant in that spreadsheet if you could mark which ones didn't have an icon | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | it might be something we look at later | 01:35 |
| nubae | just to clarify I've made a edubuntu page for this... should I make this elsewhere? | 01:36 |
| Ahmuck | nubae: i'm getting an error, and wondered if you would know anything about it? | 01:37 |
| * nubae listens | 01:39 | |
| Ahmuck | brb | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | nubae: I don't think you need it elsewhere | 01:41 |
| nubae | (02:34:53 AM) LaserJock: not on edubuntu.org | 01:41 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | exportfs: /etc/exports:1: syntax error: bad option list | 01:44 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | when i try the third line "sudo exportfs -a" | 01:44 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | any clues? | 01:45 |
| nubae | Ahmuck-Jr: be more inclusive please... what are u trying to do? | 01:46 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-kernel-server nfs-common | 01:46 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | echo "/home 192.168.0.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports /dev/null | 01:46 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | sudo exportfs -a | 01:46 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | that | 01:46 |
| nubae | and what error do u get, abviously u are trying my fatclient script... | 01:47 |
| LaserJock | nubae: I meant to mark down which don't have icons in the spreadsheet | 01:48 |
| LaserJock | nubae: the ones that will go on edubuntu.org should all have icons | 01:48 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | exportfs: /etc/exports:1: syntax error: bad option list - i get this error | 01:48 |
| nubae | Ahmuck-Jr: can u edit that file and tell me whats in it: /etc/exportfs/ | 01:59 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | it appears that /etc only has a file named "exports" | 02:03 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | no exportfs directory | 02:03 |
| nubae | should be file /etc/exportfs | 02:05 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | exports file has three lines, and the first line had a syntax error | 02:05 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | yes, no file exportfs. is that one you were trying to create via the script ? | 02:05 |
| nubae | including /home/whatever 192.158.0..00/24/24 | 02:05 |
| nubae | 0.0 | 02:06 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | yes. did nfs installation on ubuntu 8.10 change the file location? | 02:06 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | er, name? | 02:06 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | but, yes, /home/whatever is there in exports | 02:07 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | exportfs: /etc/exports [1]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/24:/home". | 02:08 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | Assuming default behaviour ('no_subtree_check'). | 02:08 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | NOTE: this default has changed since nfs-utils version 1.0.x - and now this error | 02:08 |
| nubae | telll me where the exportfs instaled. | 02:08 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | i saved exports to exportfs | 02:08 |
| nubae | no subtree is normal | 02:08 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | k, let me look | 02:08 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | http://pastebin.be/15390 | 02:09 |
| nubae | show me /etc/exportfs | 02:11 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | there was no exportfs ... i can create one from exports | 02:11 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | let me do that | 02:11 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | http://pastebin.be/15391 | 02:12 |
| nubae | thats great except its exports and not as it should be /etc/exportfs/ | 02:14 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | so, i'm confused should there have been an exportfs by default on ltsp server? | 02:16 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | /etc/exportfs? | 02:17 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | echo "/home 192.168.0.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports /dev/null - should this line say "exportfs" rather than exports ? | 02:18 |
| nubae | nope sorry that is correct | 02:20 |
| nubae | exports | 02:20 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | so, i'm lost now i guess | 02:21 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | i don't understand what is happening or what should be happening | 02:21 |
| nubae | it should just work... | 02:22 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | "exportfs -a" should just work? | 02:23 |
| nubae | yes | 02:23 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | hrm. before i tried your script, i "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" | 02:23 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | so i'mat the latest update | 02:23 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | would this be an indication my system was comprimized? | 02:24 |
| nubae | that should be fine | 02:25 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | what should be fine? | 02:25 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | oh, nm | 02:25 |
| nubae | your systen should not be compromised | 02:26 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | i see. originally i had a syntax error, now it exports and gives me the other error which is ok | 02:26 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | because i went and looked at the file and removed the line with the syntax error and saved back. k, thx nubae i'll go from here | 02:26 |
| nubae | cool | 02:26 |
| alex_21 | I am using Edubuntu Server, and I added the line default_server = 127.0.0.1 to the file /etc/pulse/client.conf | 03:15 |
| alex_21 | Now what do I do for the changes to take effect? | 03:16 |
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| Ahmuck-Jr | 0 stray cats were added ?! | 15:40 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | odd message | 15:40 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | nubae: is there a way to overwrite entries in /usr/opt/fati386 without having to redo the entire thing? | 15:42 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | sorry, /opt/ltsp/fati386 | 15:44 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | nubae: just saw ur artilce on xo. reading some of your articles, i'm really interested in what your doing with ltsp | 15:47 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | specifically, it appears that you are making a concentrated effort to ease ltsp for the classroom learning environment | 15:48 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | to run fat clients, do i need to create a "local apps" menu? | 16:25 |
| Ahmuck | !docs | 16:27 |
| ubottu | documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com | 16:27 |
| Ahmuck | !docs | 16:27 |
| Ahmuck | !doc | 16:27 |
| nubae | Ahmuck-Jr: u can set it to use nfs instead of nbd, and that way u won't have to rebuild the image all the time I suppose | 19:05 |
| nubae | and localapps is not needed for fat client | 19:06 |
| Ahmuck | kewl, thx | 19:06 |
| Ahmuck | i've been trying to get the fatclient installation to work, but it keeps erroring out partway through the install | 19:06 |
| * Ahmuck needs to wait until it gets to that point again | 19:06 | |
| nubae | where's it dying? | 19:06 |
| Ahmuck | i'll know in about 10min | 19:10 |
| Ahmuck | it's at 76% download right now | 19:10 |
| Ahmuck | i'll post to pastbin.be if it does it again. i deleted the script to make sure i did not install hardy script and am trying again | 19:11 |
| nubae | k I updated it recently... so make sure u are using the latest one from nubae.com | 19:12 |
| Ahmuck | i am | 19:13 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | k, it asks to enter main root user, which i assume is the account i created when intalling ubuntu ltsp server. user1 | 19:33 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | nubae: http://pastebin.be/15405 | 19:34 |
| nubae | edit the script and remove the part about kde-guidance | 19:42 |
| nubae | in any case, by that time the script should have gone through and done everything, u just have to build the image | 19:43 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | what should the script say there. i just noticed it's at the end | 19:44 |
| nubae | just take out the if... fi | 19:45 |
| nubae | so the last 3 lines... but keep the esac at the end | 19:45 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | k. the last three lines are not needed i guess. i'm going to post my dhcpd.conf to make sure everything is kosher | 19:49 |
| Ahmuck-Jr | http://pastebin.be/15408 | 19:50 |
| Ahmuck | hrm, when i reboot the thin client it is still being served the thin client address. need to reboot the server to enforce ltsp/dhcp addressing? | 20:06 |
| Ahmuck | nubae: well, after using the dhcp change, the thin client fails to boot thin or thick | 20:24 |
| * Ahmuck is going out for sunshine | 20:28 | |
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