[00:03] http://www.stgraber.org/download/ubuntu/ltsp/ contain both packages [00:04] I couldn't test the package on a jaunty system but the intrepid backport I made is working fine (and is actually kind-of in production as we needed these features) [00:09] stgraber: are you going to get that into -updates or -backports? [00:23] LaserJock: well, for now the intrepid one is in my PPA, it won't be uploaded to -updates as it's really hard to cherrypick fixes for ltsp but I'll probably ask for a backport. [00:23] stgraber: how much is feature addition though? [00:24] I wonder if it could get squeezed into a SRU [00:25] LaserJock: integrating the whole ltsp-cluster, getting a replacement for configure-x (xorg configuration file generation), adding a xdg menu generator for the localapps, addind xinitrc.d and screen-session.d, moving a good part of the C code to shell when possible (mainly in ldm) [00:25] as I said, not easy to cherry-pick from :) [00:26] what's the reason for C -> shell ? [00:26] and these are really new features, I don't think there is any reported bug on LP fixed by that (I'd need to have one more look) [00:26] because starting X from the C code was really weird and making changing the X parameters really hard [00:27] I see [00:27] we also moved the session open from the C code to an rc script, so we can easily add a script changing the environment (as we source these and the final (gnome-session/kde/..) has the whole environement set) [00:27] oh, we also added .dmrc support to store the language and session [00:27] added serial printer support too [00:28] ok, well I know sbalneav was eager to get some Intrepid stuff into Hardy [00:28] I just wondered how much of this new stuff would be bug fixing [00:28] yeah, hardy is a bit broken [00:29] so intrepid => hardy needs a few SRU, jaunty => intrepid doesn't it's mostly new features [00:30] right [00:49] LaserJock: ogra_ did the upload [00:52] stgraber: good, I haven't even got my jaunty chroot made :-) [00:56] who needs a chroot ... [00:56] * ogra_ just debsigned [00:58] ogra_: old habit I guess ;-) [00:59] no need for that for stgraber's ltsp uploads ... just do them :) [00:59] he should do them already, it's just buerocracy thats in the way [00:59] yeah ... [00:59] slacking motu council ... [01:01] LaserJock: should I make the apps page with an app icon? [01:02] nubae: why not [01:03] yeah did without one and it looks quite silly... [01:11] problem is not all apps have icons... what do I do for those? [01:12] nubae: which ones don't? [01:14] weird ones, for example: DDV Sequence Alignment Viewer [01:17] maybe I'm looking in the wrong place... I'm using the net to look for relevant websites [01:18] why the heck is DDV Sequence Alignment Viewer doing on your list? [01:19] I'm using the the ubuntu-apps edu spreadsheet [01:19] don't use that [01:19] use the seeds [01:19] k [01:19] only a handfull of the apps on the list are in Edubuntu [01:19] ok? ??? [01:20] also.. should I make them clickable install then? [01:21] U did tell me to use the spreadsheet as a base... [01:22] not for Hardy and Intrepid [01:22] for Hardy and Intrepid we need to list what we *actually* support/ship [01:22] for Jaunty we're looking at expanding all that and using these bundles [01:23] *which* will come from the spreadsheet [01:23] ok, so the spreadsheet is Juanty related then? [01:23] yeah [01:24] k, I learn something new... :-) [01:25] that's why I said to not worry about the spreadsheet so much [01:25] because it's sort of a different issue than the app lists for Hardy & Intrepid [01:26] and also why I showed you the seeds :-) [01:26] so hopefully that will make your life *much* easier ;-) [01:26] for the current distro yes [01:30] nubae: perhaps though could you make a new column on that spreadsheet that gives which apps you found didn't have an icon? [01:33] ok, so I list all, but put a generic edubuntu icon infront of non icon apps? [01:34] not on edubuntu.org [01:35] I just meant in that spreadsheet if you could mark which ones didn't have an icon [01:35] it might be something we look at later [01:36] just to clarify I've made a edubuntu page for this... should I make this elsewhere? [01:37] nubae: i'm getting an error, and wondered if you would know anything about it? [01:39] * nubae listens [01:40] brb [01:41] nubae: I don't think you need it elsewhere [01:41] (02:34:53 AM) LaserJock: not on edubuntu.org [01:44] exportfs: /etc/exports:1: syntax error: bad option list [01:44] when i try the third line "sudo exportfs -a" [01:45] any clues? [01:46] Ahmuck-Jr: be more inclusive please... what are u trying to do? [01:46] sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-kernel-server nfs-common [01:46] echo "/home 192.168.0.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports /dev/null [01:46] sudo exportfs -a [01:46] that [01:47] and what error do u get, abviously u are trying my fatclient script... [01:48] nubae: I meant to mark down which don't have icons in the spreadsheet [01:48] nubae: the ones that will go on edubuntu.org should all have icons [01:48] exportfs: /etc/exports:1: syntax error: bad option list - i get this error [01:59] Ahmuck-Jr: can u edit that file and tell me whats in it: /etc/exportfs/ [02:03] it appears that /etc only has a file named "exports" [02:03] no exportfs directory [02:05] should be file /etc/exportfs [02:05] exports file has three lines, and the first line had a syntax error [02:05] yes, no file exportfs. is that one you were trying to create via the script ? [02:05] including /home/whatever 192.158.0..00/24/24 [02:06] 0.0 [02:06] yes. did nfs installation on ubuntu 8.10 change the file location? [02:06] er, name? [02:07] but, yes, /home/whatever is there in exports [02:08] exportfs: /etc/exports [1]: Neither 'subtree_check' or 'no_subtree_check' specified for export "192.168.0.0/24:/home". [02:08] Assuming default behaviour ('no_subtree_check'). [02:08] NOTE: this default has changed since nfs-utils version 1.0.x - and now this error [02:08] telll me where the exportfs instaled. [02:08] i saved exports to exportfs [02:08] no subtree is normal [02:08] k, let me look [02:09] http://pastebin.be/15390 [02:11] show me /etc/exportfs [02:11] there was no exportfs ... i can create one from exports [02:11] let me do that [02:12] http://pastebin.be/15391 [02:14] thats great except its exports and not as it should be /etc/exportfs/ [02:16] so, i'm confused should there have been an exportfs by default on ltsp server? [02:17] /etc/exportfs? [02:18] echo "/home 192.168.0.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)" | sudo tee -a /etc/exports /dev/null - should this line say "exportfs" rather than exports ? [02:20] nope sorry that is correct [02:20] exports [02:21] so, i'm lost now i guess [02:21] i don't understand what is happening or what should be happening [02:22] it should just work... [02:23] "exportfs -a" should just work? [02:23] yes [02:23] hrm. before i tried your script, i "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" [02:23] so i'mat the latest update [02:24] would this be an indication my system was comprimized? [02:25] that should be fine [02:25] what should be fine? [02:25] oh, nm [02:26] your systen should not be compromised [02:26] i see. originally i had a syntax error, now it exports and gives me the other error which is ok [02:26] because i went and looked at the file and removed the line with the syntax error and saved back. k, thx nubae i'll go from here [02:26] cool [03:15] I am using Edubuntu Server, and I added the line default_server = 127.0.0.1 to the file /etc/pulse/client.conf [03:16] Now what do I do for the changes to take effect? === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [15:40] 0 stray cats were added ?! [15:40] odd message [15:42] nubae: is there a way to overwrite entries in /usr/opt/fati386 without having to redo the entire thing? [15:44] sorry, /opt/ltsp/fati386 [15:47] nubae: just saw ur artilce on xo. reading some of your articles, i'm really interested in what your doing with ltsp [15:48] specifically, it appears that you are making a concentrated effort to ease ltsp for the classroom learning environment [16:25] to run fat clients, do i need to create a "local apps" menu? [16:27] !docs [16:27] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [16:27] !docs [16:27] !doc [19:05] Ahmuck-Jr: u can set it to use nfs instead of nbd, and that way u won't have to rebuild the image all the time I suppose [19:06] and localapps is not needed for fat client [19:06] kewl, thx [19:06] i've been trying to get the fatclient installation to work, but it keeps erroring out partway through the install [19:06] * Ahmuck needs to wait until it gets to that point again [19:06] where's it dying? [19:10] i'll know in about 10min [19:10] it's at 76% download right now [19:11] i'll post to pastbin.be if it does it again. i deleted the script to make sure i did not install hardy script and am trying again [19:12] k I updated it recently... so make sure u are using the latest one from nubae.com [19:13] i am [19:33] k, it asks to enter main root user, which i assume is the account i created when intalling ubuntu ltsp server. user1 [19:34] nubae: http://pastebin.be/15405 [19:42] edit the script and remove the part about kde-guidance [19:43] in any case, by that time the script should have gone through and done everything, u just have to build the image [19:44] what should the script say there. i just noticed it's at the end [19:45] just take out the if... fi [19:45] so the last 3 lines... but keep the esac at the end [19:49] k. the last three lines are not needed i guess. i'm going to post my dhcpd.conf to make sure everything is kosher [19:50] http://pastebin.be/15408 [20:06] hrm, when i reboot the thin client it is still being served the thin client address. need to reboot the server to enforce ltsp/dhcp addressing? [20:24] nubae: well, after using the dhcp change, the thin client fails to boot thin or thick [20:28] * Ahmuck is going out for sunshine