[00:18] <feijo> damn! GParted will copy the entire partition sectors... only 797782158
[00:18] <feijo> 5 hours... bah
[00:19] <uber_noober> howdy folks
[00:21] <uber_noober> quick question....I have kubuntu installed on my laptop (sda1)... want to install Debian etch on another partion (sda2) but I don't want to reinstall grub. In other words I want to use the bootloader from kubuntu not debian...any thoughts?
[00:39] <NetSkier> What do people like these days for a consoled based IRC client?  I did not find bitchx with apt-cache search bitch.
[00:40] <cuznt> i like konversation
[00:40] <cuznt> !bitchx
[00:40] <jpds> NetSkier: irssi.
[00:40] <jpds> !info irssi | NetSkier
[00:41] <cuznt> thats too uber for me br4h's
[00:43] <isaacj87> hey all, my friend and I are trying to play around with remote desktops...He's all the way across town, but I have his IP adress. I'm trying to use the Remote Desktop Client but I'm not sure how to use it correctly...Can someone help us out?
[00:43] <leandro_> Hi. I own a prescott p4 and would like to know if thermal throttling is ative. How do I do that
[00:43] <leandro_> ?
[00:44] <cuznt> i think you will need to use on his a no-ip client
[00:44] <isaacj87> cuznt: no-ip client?
[00:44] <cuznt> the remote needs an addy to get there
[00:45] <cuznt> it isd a dns update client i think
[00:45] <cuznt> hold on
[00:45] <cuznt> !no-ip
[00:45] <cuznt> corse not
[00:47] <cuznt> i use no-ip so bewofthe.no-ip.org = a root server on my pc
[00:47] <cuznt> so i have a client on my machine here
[00:47] <cuznt> and register for an addy
[00:47] <cuznt> its free btw
[00:49] <cuznt> i have a couple... you can make it point to an application on your pc. so for me I have bewofthe.no-ip.org as an update client linking my pc to root servers then i must open a port on my firewall  to allow it to allow it to update
[00:49] <cuznt> issacj87 is sounds difficult but really is not
[00:50] <cuznt> and i got no-ip2 on my kde through my repositories
[00:50] <cuznt> it is a Dynamic DNS Update Clients
[00:50] <cuznt> and then you register for an account
[00:51] <cuznt> and the client on your pc hooks up to it.. bling bling...
[00:51] <cuznt> i am not sure if you both can hook up to each other at the same time
[00:52] <cuznt> plus you might also need a terminal server to allow a remote connection
[00:52] <isaacj87> cuznt: thanks for the info. I have a look at it :)
[00:52] <cuznt> peas
[00:53] <radlipat> ok how do i configure my mic????????
[00:54] <radlipat> for ip to ip??
[00:54] <radlipat> with skype
[00:55] <radlipat> i can here incoming calls and answer them and i can here them but they cant here me
[00:55] <radlipat> hello??????????????/
[00:57] <radlipat> anyone?????????????????????????????????????????
[00:57] <cuznt> easy rad
[00:57] <radlipat> PLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLP
[00:57] <cuznt> simmer down rad
[00:57] <cuznt> !!!
[00:57] <radlipat> ok
[00:57] <cuznt> !skype
[00:58] <cuznt> try that
[00:58] <radlipat> ok ill try
[00:58] <cuznt> ifn it does not work come back post your ? and when someone who knows what to do sees it? they will tell you....
[00:58] <radlipat> kk
[00:58] <cuznt> ;)
[01:06] <NetSkier> Is this the appropriate channel to get help fixing KDE which broke when upgrading to Intrepid?
[01:07] <NetSkier> broke = lost the login screen.
[01:08] <radlipat> how do i add repositorys?
[01:08] <NetSkier> So I have an Intrepid with a console; no X working now.
[01:08] <NetSkier> radlipat, Edit /etc/apt/sources-lst or similar.
[01:09] <radlipat> what i type that into?
[01:09] <radlipat> konqueror?
[01:09] <NetSkier> radlipat, whatever editor you use.
[01:09] <radlipat> or terrminal?
[01:10] <radlipat> im new to linux
[01:10] <radlipat> im runing old version of kubuntu
[01:10] <radlipat> OLDDDD
[01:10] <radlipat> 6.06
[01:10] <NetSkier> radlipat, there is some way using adept, but I don'tknow the new tools.
[01:11] <NetSkier> radlipat, cf and study https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#Intrepid%20Ibex%20(8.10)
[01:12] <radlipat> will that help when i have 6.06
[01:12] <radlipat> ??????????
[01:12] <NetSkier> radlipat, sure
[01:12] <radlipat> kk
[01:16] <radlipat> ok i added the repository and tryed to install
[01:16] <radlipat> but
[01:17] <radlipat> it said Broke
[01:17] <radlipat> srry "BREAK"
[01:17] <radlipat> grrrr
[01:17] <radlipat> "brake"
[01:17] <NetSkier> radlipat, did run run update before you tried to install it?
[01:18] <radlipat> ummmmmmmmmmm
[01:18] <NetSkier> 'sources' tells update where to look.
[01:18] <radlipat> no i only have fetch update and i did run that
[01:19] <NetSkier> radlipat, from a console, run
[01:19] <radlipat> run word sources?
[01:20] <radlipat> net?
[01:21] <NetSkier> Add your repository to /etc/apt/sources-whatever file.
[01:21] <radlipat> whateverfile "actualy"???
[01:22] <radlipat> or replace
[01:22] <radlipat> ??
[01:22] <NetSkier> radlipat, then from a console, run 'apt-get update', then run 'apt-get install -u whatever-package-you-want'
[01:22] <NetSkier> radlipat, NO.\
[01:23] <radlipat> radlipat@radlipat-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[01:23] <radlipat> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:23] <radlipat> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[01:23] <NetSkier> radlipat, the file name is 'sources.list'.
[01:23] <NetSkier> radlipat, you must sudo to root to edit this file.
[01:25] <radlipat> is there a way to update kubuntu with konsole?
[01:25] <radlipat> i hate this old version
[01:25] <radlipat> !!!withapassion!!!!
[01:25] <radlipat> lol
[01:28] <radlipat> [19:33] <radlipat> is there a way to update kubuntu with konsole?
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> sudo apt-get update
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:29] <radlipat> both??
[01:29] <radlipat> srry
[01:30] <radlipat> i want to update from 6.06 to 8."whatever" is there a way to do that with konsole?
[01:30] <radlipat> i have no cd burner
[01:30] <radlipat> and i dont wanna wait 1-3 weeks
[01:31] <radlipat> im getting mad at it
[01:32] <radlipat> ok so how do i install mic???????????/
[01:33] <radlipat> anyone
[01:33] <jsunio> hi
[01:33] <radlipat> i just wanna use mic in general
[01:33] <radlipat> how i install?????????
[01:34] <radlipat> hi
[01:34] <jsunio> plug into mic jack
[01:34] <radlipat> thats done
[01:34] <jsunio> kmix - make sure mic is on
[01:34] <radlipat> no power button
[01:35] <radlipat> always on
[01:35] <radlipat> now what?
[01:35] <jsunio> when I set my mic up I had to go into the kmix utility and mess around with it
[01:36] <jsunio> I think I had to "unmute" the mic channel
[01:36] <jsunio> Or set some volume up to 100% or something
[01:36] <radlipat> how i check to see if works?????
[01:37] <jsunio> Usually you can hear yourself in your speakers if its working I think, otherwise you can use one of the recording utilities
[01:37] <radlipat> kewl
[01:38] <radlipat> works
[01:38] <jsunio> what did you have to do?
[01:38] <NetSkier> What the names of the kde3, kde4.-0, and kde4.1 packages?  I.e. how can I tell which version of KDE is installed but NOT running on mysystem?
[01:38] <radlipat> ty very much first problem that has acctualy been solved
[01:38] <jsunio> glad to hear it
[01:39] <jsunio> I just set up a mic so I somewhat remembered
[01:40] <radlipat> lol well ty very much
[01:41] <radlipat> now to see if it works on skype!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!??
[01:41] <radlipat> lol
[01:41] <jsunio> I was able to get that to work
[01:41] <jsunio> But I had to mess with kmix a little
[01:42] <jsunio> or maybe  had to define which headphones/speakers I wanted in the skype software itself
[01:43] <jennifer> hey
[01:43] <jsunio> hello there
[01:48] <jimmy51_home> how can i check how much free space is available on my hdd's?
[01:48] <jsunio> du . -h
[01:50] <jimmy51_home> jsunio: is there a quick way that doesn't list all files?
[01:50] <jimmy51_home> i'd just like a /dev/sda1 900/1000 free or something
[01:50] <jsunio> Sorry thats the wrong command I gave you
[01:50] <jsunio> df . -h
[01:50] <jsunio> du is disk used, df is disk free
[01:51] <jsunio> I was thinking of du . -h --max-depth=0
[01:51] <jimmy51_home> ok
[01:51] <jimmy51_home> so df / -h ?
[01:51] <jsunio> df . -h
[01:52] <jsunio> I just tried regular old df and I think it gave me all drives
[01:52] <jsunio> kinda messy though
[01:52] <jsunio> -h means human-readable output
[01:52] <jimmy51_home> ah
[01:52] <jimmy51_home> thanks jsunio
[01:54] <etfb> Every time I wake my laptop (Kubuntu, Hardy) from Suspend mode, it flashes up a message before it restores the X server: "i8042 aux 00:09 activation failed".  What the *&%$@ does that mean???
[01:54] <jsunio> did you google it?
[01:54] <etfb> jsunio: Yep, and all the links seem to be related to keyboards not working, but mine works fine.
[01:54] <jsunio> What happens if you unplug keyboard and wake it from suspend mode
[01:55] <etfb> jsunio: It's a laptop; I can't unplug the keyboard.
[01:55] <etfb> (Well, not without a chisel...)
[01:56] <jsunio> What is i8042?
[01:56] <etfb> Something keyboard related.  I was hoping someone here knew.
[01:57] <jsunio> brb
[01:59] <jsunio> Do you think its hardware or OS?
[01:59] <jsunio> I see the same problem happening on ubuntuforums.org
[02:01] <jsunio> does the touchpad work after resuming?
[02:01] <jsunio> what kernel version are you using
[02:02] <etfb> jsunio: Evidence suggests it's a Hardy problem, since I don't recall it happening with Gutsy and suspend is otherwise working perfectly (if a bit slowly, but that's Ubuntu).
[02:03] <etfb> Checking kernel version (but it'll be the latest 8.04 one._
[02:03] <jsunio> Oh hmm how does it compare to:  2.6.17-8.22
[02:03] <jsunio> (It looks like an open bug)
[02:04] <jsunio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/59867
[02:04] <jsunio> someone mentioned using latest kernel 2.6.17-8.22 but I don't know if it then works
[02:05] <etfb> jsunio: Grub seems to be booting 2.6.24-22-generic
[02:06] <jsunio> etfb: did you say that you upgraded to a newer of version of kubuntu (sorry I dont know the nicknames) and it stopped working?
[02:06] <etfb> Funny thing is: the synaptic touchpad works fine, the keyboard is OK, the only symptom is the message. I've learned to be careful about apparently-harmless warning messages, or else I wouldn't bother...
[02:07] <etfb> jsunio: Hardy Heron = 8.04, Gutsy Gibbon = 7.10.  On Hardy, the warning appears.  On Gutsy, I'm pretty sure it didn't.
[02:07] <jsunio> Ok so its a new bug
[02:08] <etfb> The bug you linked to has the same warning, but is otherwise unrelated.
[02:09] <etfb> I suspect the touchpad problem is not related to the message.
[02:09] <etfb> Ah well, I'll shelve it for now.  A warning with no errors is hardly the biggest worry.  When I upgrade to Intrepid Ibex, maybe that will fix it.
[02:10] <jsunio> Here is another one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/238728
[02:10] <jsunio> Yep. I would do the same...
[02:11] <etfb> jsunio: I found that one too.  In both cases, the logic seems to be 1. I get this keyboard problem, 2. I get this message, therefore 3. They must be related.  Since I get #2 and not #1, I think #3 must be false.  Hope so, anyway.
[02:12] <jsunio> Oh Interesting, it says there (though I didnt actually see it myself) that 2.6.27 kernel fixes #1 (maybe #2)
[02:12] <jsunio> I'm running 2.6.22-14
[02:14] <radlipat> [19:38] <radlipat> i want to update from 6.06 to 8."whatever" is there a way to do that with konsole?
[02:14] <radlipat> [19:38] <radlipat> i have no cd burner
[02:14] <radlipat> [19:38] <radlipat> and i dont wanna wait 1-3 weeks
[02:14] <radlipat> [19:39] <radlipat> im getting mad at it
[02:15] <jsunio> I think you can do that, but what if it fails, you are stuck with no CD?
[02:15] <radlipat> i can reinstall 6.06 i have that cd
[02:15] <jsunio> I think apt-get can update the version?
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> I think you have to upgrade one version at a time
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> i.e. 6.06 -> 6.10 -> 7.04 etc.
[02:16] <radlipat> ok so what would the command be?
[02:16] <pragmatic> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:16] <pragmatic> i think
[02:17] <NetSkier> I went from 6.06 to 8.04 with no apparent problems, then broke KDE with upgrade to 8.10.
[02:17] <NetSkier> pragmatic, that is correct; be sure to update before upgrading.
[02:17] <[Relic[> anyone good with kde4 panels?  I want to get rrid of the huge application icons and make them 1/2 the size or less but there doesn't seem to be a decent quicklaunch bar to stuff them all in so I have to add them one at a time
[02:18] <radlipat> it said 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:18] <radlipat> here here is all it said
[02:18] <radlipat> Reading package lists... Done
[02:18] <radlipat> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:18] <radlipat> Calculating upgrade... Done
[02:18] <radlipat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:19]  * radlipat idk what to do
[02:19] <[Relic[> test
[02:19] <jsunio> Might be able to do it from Adept Notifier GUI. That's how I've done it.
[02:20] <jsunio> tried google?
[02:21] <radlipat> no idk what to ask for it
[02:22] <radlipat> could there be a repository for it????????????????????
[02:24] <radlipat> [20:30] <radlipat> could there be a repository for it????????????????????
[02:25] <Walzmyn> radlipat, there's something on the website about how to set the repos to update via apt
[02:25] <Walzmyn> radlipat, it was in the announcement for 8.10
[02:25] <radlipat> ok
[02:25] <radlipat> do u understand it?
[02:25] <radlipat> i wont
[02:26] <radlipat> again i am new to all linux terms
[02:26] <aib> help me get my default panel back: http://imagebin.ca/view/0W7sl1y.html
[02:26] <bazhang> radlipat, you want to go from 6.06 to 8.04?
[02:26] <radlipat> im used to windows but i need to learn this stuff for my career as an IT
[02:26] <radlipat> yes please
[02:27] <bazhang> !upgrade
[02:27] <bazhang> read that
[02:27] <Walzmyn> radlipat, gimme a min to fix the wife's wifi and i'll help ya
[02:27] <aib> i did something totally innocusou - clicking on a widget in the add widget interface, and now my panel is totally messed up: http://imagebin.ca/view/0W7sl1y.html
[02:27] <aib> *innocuous
[02:27] <bazhang> radlipat, there is a one step upgrade from lts to lts
[02:28] <bazhang> ie 6.06 to 8.04
[02:28] <bazhang> !lts
[02:28] <radlipat> ok
[02:28] <radlipat> how
[02:28] <bazhang> read the upgrade link
[02:30] <aib> someone, please take a look at this http://imagebin.ca/view/0W7sl1y.html
[02:30] <aib> how did my volume get over there? why is my clock so wide?
[02:30] <bazhang> open a browser and read the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes  radlipat
[02:30] <aib> i did nothing to get rid of the defaults, so how do i get them back??
[02:31] <radlipat> so what do i do this in???? konsole????
[02:31] <radlipat> To find your Ubuntu version:
[02:31] <radlipat> lsb_release -a
[02:31] <aib> if I choose panel settings, it lets me move the clock from side to side. the instant I let go it goes back to this bizarre wide-format
[02:32] <bazhang> radlipat, yes
[02:32] <radlipat> kk ty
[02:32] <bazhang> np
[02:33] <aib> does anyone know how to get the default panel back in kde4? http://imagebin.ca/view/0W7sl1y.html
[02:34] <aib> the clock, it goes on the right, the volume, it goes next to the clock. how did this happen???? i did NOT move them into this position
[02:38] <Walzmyn> aib i'm not running kde4, but can you not simply move them back to where they are supposed to be?
[02:39] <aib> you can't, it's very buggy :(
[02:41] <radlipat> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr i dont understand what its asking of me
[02:42] <Walzmyn> radlipat, we're glad to help if we can, but don't spam the channel
[02:43] <radlipat> srry stiil dont understand
[02:43] <rush_> эй
[02:43] <rush_> ездь хтота русский?
[02:43] <radlipat> whatdid he say?????????/\
[02:43] <NetSkier> radlipat, He means don't spell grrr with too many R's.
[02:43] <radlipat> ahhhhh
[02:44] <radlipat> ic
[02:44] <radlipat> srry
[02:44] <rush_> гг
[02:44] <NetSkier> Every extra thing slows down the channel.
[02:45] <radlipat> ok so what did that upgrade mean????
[02:46] <Walzmyn> radlipat, it means it's going to be really hard and time consuming and it'd be better to get a CD
[02:46] <Walzmyn> radlipat, did you find this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UpgradeFromOldVersion
[02:46] <radlipat> yes but i dont understand it
[02:47] <radlipat> i dontcare if i loose everything on the hardrive
[02:47] <Walzmyn> radlipat, you're on 6.10 now right?
[02:47] <radlipat> yes
[02:48] <Walzmyn> ok, go here
[02:48] <Walzmyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[02:50] <haggus99> why after upgrading to ff3.0.4 do you need to symlink libflashplayer.so when it was already the plugins folder?
[02:52] <haggus99> I'm confused I need to link the files for plugins instead of having the files in the actual plugins folder?
[02:55] <radlipat> ok i did all it said to do and now i still dont have full upgrade buttun
[02:56] <radlipat> how do i see what version i am running mabey it is already done cause when i first installed 6.06 i hit full upgrade
[02:57] <radlipat> let me know if you are looking so i dont keep typing
[02:57] <radlipat> plz
[02:57] <Walzmyn> radlipat, being fully updated won't change your version
[02:58] <Walzmyn> radlipat, i'd just go ahead to the next step
[02:58] <radlipat> according to site u guyz linked me it gave me repos to add and then i should hit full upgrade
[02:58] <radlipat> ok
[02:59] <radlipat> huh??
[02:59] <Walzmyn> radlipat, that was to make sure 6.10 was fully updated. Now you needa change your repos to the version 7 repos and update again.
[02:59] <radlipat> Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)
[02:59] <radlipat> You can easily upgrade over the network with the following procedure.
[02:59] <radlipat> Open the Adept Manager by going to KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager (Manage Packages).
[02:59] <radlipat> In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates (or feisty-updates "Recommended Updates" if you are already on feisty)
[02:59] <radlipat> If you are using the Edgy KDE 3.5.6 repository, also add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main
[03:00] <radlipat> If your system is up to date, the upgrade wizard will be offered via the Version Upgrade button. Otherwise:
[03:00] <radlipat> Press the Full Upgrade button.
[03:00] <Walzmyn> radlipat, don't paste all that in here
[03:00] <radlipat> Press the Apply Changes button.
[03:00] <radlipat> Once the packages are installed, exit the Adept Manager (Adept -> Quit).
[03:00] <radlipat> Repeat the initial steps (1-4).
[03:00] <radlipat> i tryied that thats what im on
[03:00] <Walzmyn> radlipat, I can see the webpage
[03:00] <radlipat> well wtf then idk what to do
[03:00] <[Relic[> what is a good sensors program that can log all 4 core temps?
[03:00] <radlipat> i though this thing was to help me???
[03:01] <radlipat> i am getting super confused... i miss windows but i lost my disk
[03:01] <radlipat> and i dont have a job right now to buy a new one
[03:02] <radlipat> how is it i lost somthing i used 1 month ago but i found somthing i used over a year ago???
[03:03] <radlipat> anyways back to subject
[03:03] <radlipat> !offtopic
[03:03] <Walzmyn> radlipat, I don't know what to tell you, i've not tried a big update like that. I would recommend getting a CD from a friend or something.
[03:04] <radlipat> i have one coming in the mail from shipit now i seen the link on top of chat window but thanks anyways
[03:05] <radlipat> that is the newist one right
[03:05] <radlipat> ??
[03:07] <bazhang> radlipat, you dont need to do the intermediate steps
[03:07] <bazhang> radlipat, you can do a ONE step upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04
[03:08] <radlipat> how????
[03:08] <bazhang> radlipat, you are on 6.06 , correct???
[03:09] <radlipat> yes\
[03:09] <radlipat> :-(
[03:10] <[Relic[> no college or tech school with a high speed connect around you to go burn a CD?
[03:10] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades radlipat scroll down to '6.06 to 8.04' section
[03:10] <radlipat> yes but not open and as far as i know you are not aloud to download and burn to cd
[03:11] <bazhang> Enable the "dapper-updates" repository.
[03:11] <bazhang> Install the new "update-manager-core" package
[03:12] <bazhang> Run "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" in a terminal window.
[03:12] <bazhang> Follow the steps on the terminal window.
[03:12] <runpain2> how do i change clock to 12 hour‌ instead of 24
[03:12] <bazhang> radlipat, terminal = konsole
[03:13] <bazhang> radlipat, in channel please (not PM)
[03:13] <astromme> runpain2: System Settings -> Regional and Language -> Time and Date -> Time Format
[03:13] <radlipat> sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[03:13] <bazhang> radlipat, after you have done the other steps.
[03:13] <radlipat> ahh
[03:14] <radlipat> step one Make sure the "dapper-updates" software channel is enabled.....how???
[03:14] <bazhang> in adept under repositories
[03:14] <radlipat> ok there
[03:14] <radlipat> now?
[03:15] <bazhang> update
[03:15] <radlipat> ok
[03:15] <bazhang> close adept
[03:16] <radlipat> then i have option to full upgrade
[03:16] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[03:16] <radlipat> oh ok
[03:16] <runpain2> thanks astromme
[03:17] <muxomor_> Hi, does anyone knows some console utility, which could show the strength of wlan signal?
[03:17] <astromme> runpain2: No problem. That info should really be on a visable wiki or faq. (Maybe it is...)
[03:17] <radlipat> ok now it asks y/n
[03:17] <quentin> muxomor_ ifconfig
[03:18] <bazhang> once that is installed: then sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[03:18] <quentin> muxomor_ iwconfig
[03:18] <bazhang> of course Y
[03:18] <muxomor_> quentin: zes, i know, iwconfig too, but i want dznamical information to be shown
[03:18] <muxomor_> quentin: not just like a snapshot
[03:18] <quentin> muxomor_ iwlist
[03:19] <quentin> muxomor_ otherwise u can automate this in a script
[03:19] <radlipat> its working...:-)
[03:19] <ses59_> I apt-get install krecipes and it installed but there was not a shortcut on the menu.  How do find the program to launch it?  I use windows most of the time so finding programs kubuntu is different
[03:19] <radlipat> so far
[03:20] <radlipat> still installing
[03:20] <humoud> hi people
[03:20] <radlipat> !offtopic
[03:20] <bazhang> radlipat, no need to do the !offtopic
[03:21] <radlipat> i dont know how to open it W/O typing that
[03:21] <humoud> did any one tryed to use the mic in msn ??
[03:21] <bazhang> open what radlipat
[03:21] <radlipat> off topics general chat
[03:22] <radlipat> i am not known as that lol
[03:22] <bazhang> radlipat, you need to /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:22] <radlipat> ahhhh ok ty lol
[03:22] <bazhang> radlipat, type /join #channelname
[03:22] <muxomor_> quentin: am i right, that ioption is called triggering scanning?
[03:23] <bazhang> that will take you to whatever channel you wish
[03:23] <radlipat> what all is there?
[03:23] <radlipat> i thught only wo
[03:23] <radlipat> two*
[03:23] <bazhang> radlipat, you need all freenode channel list? there are MANY
[03:24] <ses59_> muxomor you might try net stumbler http://www.netstumbler.com/
[03:24] <radlipat> how i find them my self?
[03:24] <muxomor_> ses59_: thanks, i ll look about it
[03:25] <radlipat> is there a list on the chat window?
[03:25] <bazhang> radlipat, /msg alis help list
[03:25] <radlipat> kewl ty
[03:25] <bazhang> np
[03:26] <muxomor_> ses59_:  ah, i remembered, i have aircrack too, it shows signals aswell. And kismet / forgot that name, hehe and now remembered. Thanks to all, bze
[03:30] <radlipat> ok how i type in red to you like you do to me?
[03:32] <radlipat> u there baz?
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> radlipat- it's probably just highlighting
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> A lot of IRC programs change the color of a line that has your nickname in it
[03:32] <radlipat> huh?
 huh?
[03:33] <radlipat> BAZ u still here its done installing
[03:34] <jedix> what's todays build like?
[03:34] <bazhang> radlipat, use baz <tabkey> to get my nickname
[03:34] <jedix> beta and nightly
[03:34] <radlipat> bazhang: ahh
[03:34] <bazhang> radlipat, what is done installing
[03:34] <radlipat> bazhang: the first part
[03:35] <bazhang> update-manager-core?
[03:35] <radlipat> bazhang: yes
[03:35] <bazhang> radlipat, then do the next step
[03:35] <bazhang> radlipat, it will be a big install; time to make some coffee
[03:36] <radlipat> bazhang: lol sounds good let me know when ur back
[03:36] <radlipat> uh oh
[03:36] <bazhang> radlipat, do the next step; more like when you are back :)
[03:37] <radlipat> bazhang: IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpRG5kNd/edgy.tar.gz'
[03:37] <radlipat> bazhang:  what now?
[03:37] <bazhang> radlipat, check the version again
[03:37] <bazhang> !version
[03:37] <radlipat> how?
[03:38] <bazhang> ^^
[03:38] <bazhang> sounds like you have 6.10 and not 6.06
[03:39] <radlipat> No LSB modules are available.
[03:39] <radlipat> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[03:39] <radlipat> Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS
[03:39] <radlipat> Release:        6.06
[03:39] <radlipat> Codename:       dapper
[03:39] <radlipat> ???
[03:40] <bazhang> yep that is right
[03:40] <radlipat> so i couldnt do next step now what?
[03:40] <bazhang> radlipat, did you install update-manager-core after updating?
[03:41] <radlipat> bazhang: how?
[03:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[03:41] <bazhang> radlipat, see above
[03:42] <radlipat> update-manager-core is already the newest version.
[03:42] <radlipat> it says
[03:42] <bazhang> sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[03:43] <radlipat> sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop again
[03:43] <radlipat> srry hold on
[03:43] <radlipat> it says this again
[03:43] <radlipat> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpGUPHhm/edgy.tar.gz'
[03:44] <radlipat> bottom line only
[03:44] <bazhang> radlipat, paste.ubuntu.com your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:44] <bazhang> radlipat, dont paste in this channel
[03:44] <radlipat> ???
[03:44] <bazhang> radlipat, open a browser and paste.ubuntu.com the contents of that file
[03:45] <bazhang> radlipat, open the konsole
[03:45] <radlipat> kk
[03:45] <bazhang> radlipat, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:45] <bazhang> type that and copy and paste ---->>> paste.ubuntu.com
[03:45] <bazhang> NOT here.
[03:46] <radlipat> huh ummmmmmmm?
[03:46] <radlipat> i typed that
[03:46] <radlipat> but copy and paste in same line?
[03:47] <radlipat> or after i hit enter or space or what?
[03:47] <mister-tea> !paste
[03:47] <bazhang> radlipat, open a browser
[03:47] <radlipat> ok
[03:47] <bazhang> then type in the address paste.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <radlipat> went to that url
[03:48] <bazhang> yep
[03:48] <radlipat> now?
[03:48] <radlipat> copy all of konsole?
[03:48] <bazhang> now in konsole:      cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <nate__> Hi, im trying to do some upgrades and it says the server is down, anybody else
[03:49] <bazhang> that will give you some output radlipat ; copy that to the browser you have open
[03:50] <radlipat> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84638/
[03:50] <radlipat> that right?
[03:50] <bazhang> radlipat, now you will need to edit that file
[03:51] <radlipat> how?
[03:51] <bazhang> radlipat, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <radlipat> ok it opened
[03:52] <bazhang> radlipat, once you have that open, put a # in front of entries 1, 2, 3
[03:52] <radlipat> ok then?
[03:52] <radlipat> 1# or 2
[03:52] <radlipat> ??
[03:53] <nate__> if i do an apt-get update i get a bunch of 404 not found<
[03:54] <radlipat> hello???
[03:54] <radlipat> baz?
[03:54] <radlipat> bazhang: # or##??
[03:54] <bazhang> radlipat, remove the # from in front of 17, 18 31 32
[03:54] <pedro> alo alguin habla español???
[03:54] <bazhang> !es
[03:55] <jedix>  !de
[03:55] <pedro> buenas tengo unproblema con mi ubuntu alguien me puede socorrer
[03:55] <jedix> what?
[03:56] <pedro> i have a little problem
[03:56] <radlipat> bazhang: kk
[03:56] <radlipat> bazhang: done
[03:56] <bazhang> radlipat, hang on a second
[03:56] <radlipat> bazhang: kk
[03:56] <pedro> i can't hear my youtube's videos
[03:57] <radlipat> thats ok i cant get flash so u win
[03:57] <radlipat> pedro
[03:58] <pedro> por favor alguien me puede ayudar a corregir mi problema con lso videos de youtube
[03:59] <pedro> radlipat
[03:59] <radlipat> bazhang: i opened a new chat room if you want so i dont have to scroll up and down
[03:59] <radlipat> pedro: no comprende espaniol
[04:00] <Soliloquial> really dumb question: how do I make the digital clock in kubuntu 12-hour?
[04:00] <bazhang> radlipat, save the file and let me see it again in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:01] <pedro> padlipat i speak english, not a lot but something
[04:02] <pedro> somebody speak spanish???
[04:02] <nate__> I AM TRYING TO UPGRADE TO GUSTY, BUT I KEEP GETTING ERRORS ABOUT 404 NOT FOUND
[04:02] <bazhang> !es | pedro
[04:02] <bazhang> nate__, caps
[04:03] <nate__> Sorrry
[04:03] <bazhang> pedro, please dont PM me
[04:04] <radlipat> how i link it again?
[04:04] <pedro> i have a littl problem with my videos on youtube
[04:04] <mister-tea> nate gutsy will be in the archives
[04:04] <bazhang> radlipat, link what
[04:04] <pedro> i can hear it
[04:04] <radlipat> i have the http open
[04:04] <bazhang> radlipat, paste.ubuntu.com
[04:05]  * radlipat Quote <bazhang> radlipat, save the file and let me see it again in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <cuznt> !pastebin
[04:05] <bazhang> radlipat, yes
[04:05] <bazhang> radlipat, I am waiting for the new link
[04:05] <cuznt> but there is a tool you can d/l too
[04:06] <bazhang> pastebinit
[04:06] <radlipat> got that i forgot what to paste the kate flie or termianl one?
[04:06] <cuznt> thats it
[04:06] <bazhang> but lets keep this simple :)
[04:06] <cuznt> danks
[04:06] <bazhang> radlipat, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:06] <pedro> alo
[04:07] <cuznt> right on but i certainly came l00kin in at the right time.... thanks
[04:08] <radlipat> bazhang: am i supposed to save the edit file or what?
[04:09] <radlipat> when i typed that all up it didnt change when i retyped  cat /etc/apt/sources.list in a new konsole
[04:10] <radlipat> bazhang: u still here??????????????????????
[04:10] <mister-tea> did you start kate with sudo
[04:10] <radlipat> yes
[04:10] <radlipat> mr tee
[04:11] <mister-tea> and save the cganges?
[04:11] <mister-tea> changes
[04:11] <radlipat> ???
[04:11] <radlipat> ahh no how?
[04:11] <radlipat> just save but where too?
[04:12] <mister-tea> you could be looking at a copy of the old file if you didn't save it right
[04:12] <Guest24594> ok
[04:12] <SilentDis> !keep
[04:12] <Guest24594> ??
[04:13] <kuteab> pppaaa
[04:14] <kuteab> and save the cganges?
[04:15] <radlipat> kk here is the link
[04:15] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84645/
[04:15] <kuteab> ??
[04:15] <kuteab> wacht
[04:16] <kuteab> wattt
[04:16] <CrazyKlompjes> kuteab-are you dutch?
[04:16] <kuteab>  kuteab-are you dutch?
[04:16] <CrazyKlompjes> O.o
[04:17] <mister-tea> radlipat:  what are you trying to do?
[04:17] <radlipat> get 8.10 through konsole
[04:17] <radlipat> from 6.06
[04:18] <mister-tea> you are going to have to go to 8.04 first I think
[04:19] <radlipat> idk he was taking me through it step by step on site cause i didnt understand it
[04:20] <mister-tea> what step did you get stuck at
[04:21] <radlipat> ummm part two i think
[04:21] <devin> hey everyone.  I have a question and would love to get anyone's $.02 on the matter.  I'm trying to install the amarok 2.0 deb on ubuntu 8.10, and the package installer is giving me this error: dependency is not satisfiable: amarok-mysql-data.  I'm somewhat of a linux neophyte so any help would be appreciated.
[04:21] <mister-tea> not being in the conversation Idk what step two was
 Run "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" in a terminal window.
[04:23] <radlipat> was step two
[04:23] <mister-tea> i would think you would have to update your sources list as your post still shows you are trying to get newer releases from a dapper backport
[04:24] <radlipat> ok so how?
[04:25] <mister-tea> I'm pretty new in doing this without a gui can you do it from a gui?
[04:25] <NetSkier> radlipat, By editing your sources.list with a text editor, I guess you already used kate.
[04:26] <radlipat> yeah but idk bout the rest
[04:26] <NetSkier> radlipat, but I STRONGLY suggest that you first verify that you can go all the way from 6.06 to 8.10 in ONE step.
[04:26] <radlipat> and ima falling asleep atkb here
[04:26] <mister-tea> maybe sudo apt-get update sourseslist
[04:26] <mister-tea> i don't think he can
[04:26] <bazhang> radlipat, your sources.list is a bit too long
[04:26] <Soliloquial> any way for me to make my clock 12 hour?
[04:26] <mister-tea> I think he has to go to 8.04 first
[04:26] <Soliloquial> in the tray
[04:26] <NetSkier> I just did it in two steps:  6.06 to 8.04 and then to 8.10.  And this broke my KDE, which I just fixed, but I can not remember how.
[04:27] <bazhang> radlipat, you can only go from 6.06 to 8.04
[04:27] <radlipat> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[04:27] <radlipat> ok
[04:27] <radlipat> ur back
[04:27] <bazhang> then from 8.04 to 8.10
[04:27] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84645/
[04:28] <bazhang> radlipat, or you could save yourself some time and just get the 8.10 cd iso
[04:28] <radlipat> ill stick with 8.04 for now cds coming in mail
[04:28] <mister-tea> !8.10
[04:29] <NetSkier> radlipat, if bazhang is right, then you need to replace all your words 'dapper" with "hardy', then from a console, sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -u.
[04:29] <mister-tea> you can download that iso too
[04:29] <bazhang> NetSkier, that is not the 'approved' method
[04:30] <radlipat> can i make it so you guyz can take over computer?
[04:30] <bazhang> radlipat, no
[04:30] <NetSkier> bazhang, Sorry, I am fairly new to Kubuntu.  What is the approved method?
[04:30] <bazhang> radlipat, that is a very very bad idea
[04:30] <radlipat> dang
[04:30] <bazhang> radlipat, you are just trying to save $$ on Cd's?
[04:31] <radlipat> i have nopersonal stuff on comp
[04:31] <mister-tea> still bad idea
[04:31] <radlipat> my harddrive is even empty except for linux
[04:31] <radlipat> oh k
[04:31] <mister-tea> you could open your box to future problems
[04:32] <NetSkier> radlipat, The point is that a bad person could take over your computer, and use it to commit crimes.
[04:32] <bazhang> radlipat, looks like your sources.list has triple entries
[04:32] <radlipat> ahh cant i just unplug it in middle?
[04:32] <radlipat> lol yeah it does
[04:33] <mister-tea> you won't neccesarily know
[04:33] <bazhang> radlipat, remove the bottom two thirds
[04:33] <radlipat> ahhh
[04:33] <radlipat> i closed kate how i open it again?
[04:33] <bazhang> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list <---write this down
[04:35] <radlipat> now its shorter???
[04:35] <bazhang> hope so
[04:35] <radlipat> relink it?
[04:35] <bazhang> yep
[04:35] <radlipat> save first or send right out of kate?
[04:36] <bazhang> save first :/
[04:36] <radlipat> ok
[04:36] <bazhang> NetSkier, /msg ubottu upgrade
[04:36] <radlipat> saved now what?
[04:36] <bazhang> cat /etc/apt/sources.list ---->paste.ubuntu.com
[04:38] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84654/
[04:40] <radlipat> brb
[04:40] <radlipat> brb B.R.B. lol
[04:40] <radlipat> or rrb
[04:40] <radlipat> what ever
[04:41] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84655/  radlipat replace your sources.list with this
[04:41] <rodolfo> hi ther!
[04:41] <rodolfo> is there an IM that works on Kubuntu and I can use my webcam on it...?
[04:41] <rodolfo> does amsn works on kubuntu?
[04:42] <Wickk> rodolfo: AFAIK Pidgin has support for webcams
[04:43] <rodolfo> Wickk: is it enabled by default?
[04:43] <Wickk> rodolfo: Actually nvm I don't see it anywhere in my options. There may be a plugin though
[04:44] <rodolfo> humm let me give you the whole picture
[04:44] <radlipat> bazhang: kknow what?
[04:44] <rodolfo> I'm on UBUNTU right now but I have a friend that uses Kubuntu
[04:44] <bazhang> radlipat, replace your sources.list with that one
[04:44] <rodolfo> the thing is, he can't use his wc
[04:45] <radlipat> i did
[04:45] <radlipat> now what?
[04:45] <radlipat> and saved
[04:45] <bazhang> radlipat, sudo apt-get update
[04:45] <rodolfo> Wickk: so you mean that Pidgin has support for webcams...
[04:45] <radlipat> and ran cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:45] <radlipat> and it matched
[04:45] <radlipat> kk
[04:45] <bazhang> radlipat, did you use the one I just sent you?
[04:45] <rodolfo> Wickk: which is weird because the pidgin's GNOME version still hasn't
[04:45] <NetSkier> bazhang, /msg ubottu upgrade  did not do anything.   What should I see?
[04:46] <bazhang> radlipat, cut and paste ?
[04:46] <Wickk> rodolfo: No they don't I was wrong
[04:46] <bazhang> NetSkier, check the PM from ubottu
[04:46] <rodolfo> Wickk: so which app/IM program can I suggest for him to install?
[04:46] <rodolfo> Wickk: aMSN?
[04:46] <radlipat> kk its doing that
[04:46] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84655/  radlipat this one?
[04:47] <radlipat> yea
[04:47] <Wickk> rodolfo: honestly I'm not too sure, I only use Pidgin and Xchat. Hopefully someone else can recommend you one
[04:47] <radlipat> and it matched
[04:47] <[NetSkier> bazhang, HOW DO I check the PM from ubottu?
[04:47] <radlipat> konsole is running update
[04:47] <bazhang> radlipat, paste.ubuntu.com yours
[04:47] <rodolfo> SOMEONE please tell me what instan message Program can handle webcams!!!!
[04:47] <rodolfo> for Kubuntu -_-'
[04:47] <bazhang> !upgrade | [NetSkier
[04:48] <bazhang> [NetSkier, check that link
[04:48] <[NetSkier> bazhang, thanks, will do.
[04:48] <Wickk> rodolfo: according to http://www.amsn-project.net/ aMSN has support for webcams
[04:48] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84656/
[04:49] <radlipat> ok and update via konsole is complete
[04:49] <rodolfo> Wickk: OK so let me understand one thing
[04:49] <rodolfo> Wickk: what's equivalent to sudo apt-get install command to use on Kubuntu-console/terminal/whatever?
[04:50] <bazhang> radlipat, now sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[04:50] <Wickk> rodolfo: Just have him go through Adept and search for it in the repos
[04:50] <radlipat> bash: now: command not found
[04:51] <bazhang> radlipat, no
[04:51] <bazhang> radlipat, sudo etc etc
[04:51] <rodolfo> Wickk can he quickly exec Adept through alt+F2 and typing Adept and then Enter?
[04:52] <radlipat> ooops
[04:52] <radlipat> lol little tired
[04:53] <Wickk> rodolfo: I don't think so, but you can always just go through the menu...
[04:53] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84657/
[04:53] <radlipat> is what it says
[04:54] <rodolfo> Wickk that's the thing he does'nt know how to get there and neither do I
[04:54] <bazhang> radlipat, did you kdesu kate edit your sources.list ?
[04:54] <bazhang> radlipat, looks like you never changed it.
[04:55] <radlipat> i did
[04:56] <radlipat> i saved it and all i even sent u the link above that last one
[04:56] <bazhang> radlipat, any reason not to get the iso and do a fresh install?
[04:56] <radlipat>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/84656/
[04:56] <radlipat> idk how
[04:57] <bazhang> radlipat, seems you did a different upgrade route before all this (ie to edgy) and there are some leftover problems from that
[04:57] <radlipat> and if i need cd burner its ootq
[04:57] <bazhang> radlipat, a fresh install is much much easier
[04:57] <radlipat> do i need a cd burner for that?
[04:58] <bazhang> radlipat, yes; no one you know has one?
[04:58] <radlipat> nope
[04:59] <bazhang> radlipat, did you try to upgrade to edgy before I started helping you?
[04:59] <radlipat> yes
[04:59] <bazhang> no wonder
[04:59] <radlipat> it was on list that other dude gave me
[05:00] <radlipat> sigh*
[05:00] <bazhang> and update-manager-core is installed?
[05:01] <bazhang> radlipat, check in /etc/apt if there is a sources.list.d
[05:01] <forcesito> saluton
[05:02] <radlipat> bash: /etc/apt: is a directory
[05:02] <bazhang> radlipat, cd to that directory
[05:03] <radlipat> huh?
[05:04] <[NetSkier> bazhang, Perhaps we could edit the file for him, and paste.ubuntu.com it back to him?
[05:04] <bazhang> [NetSkier, we have tried that but it seems some edgy stuff got in there
[05:04] <[NetSkier> bazhang, and that way enforce him going to Hardy before Intrepid.
[05:05] <[NetSkier> bazhang, My guess is that the edginess was there from before.
[05:05] <radlipat> no
[05:05] <radlipat> some other dude had me update it
[05:05] <rodolfo> Wickk thanks for the help, it didn't work though
[05:10] <radlipat> sooooooooO????????????
[05:10] <bazhang> radlipat, you have update-manager-core installed?
[05:11] <radlipat> bash: update-manager-core: command not found
[05:11] <bazhang> radlipat, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[05:12] <radlipat> hey kewl as of now im not single i just hooked up with my best friend
[05:12] <bazhang> radlipat, ??
[05:12] <radlipat> we are on skype
[05:12] <radlipat> lol
[05:13] <radlipat> Reading package lists... Done
[05:13] <radlipat> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:13] <radlipat> update-manager-core is already the newest version.
[05:13] <radlipat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:13] <bazhang> radlipat, now sudo apt-get update
[05:13] <bazhang> radlipat, followed by: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:14] <radlipat> kk
[05:14] <radlipat> did both
[05:14] <bazhang> radlipat, in five seconds??
[05:14] <bazhang> radlipat, do them again.
[05:15] <radlipat> ctrl c ctrl v man
[05:15] <radlipat> lol
[05:15] <radlipat> ok
[05:18] <radlipat> kk done srry trying to talk to gf and you
[05:18] <radlipat> lol
[05:19] <radlipat> still here
[05:19] <radlipat> ????
[05:19] <radlipat> i can only be on till 1 centeral time
[05:19] <radlipat> so we gotsta hurry
[05:21] <radlipat> bazhang: HELLO
[05:21] <radlipat> u there?
[05:22] <bazhang> radlipat, did you run those commands again?
[05:23] <radlipat> yes bud
[05:24] <radlipat> now what?
[05:24] <bazhang> radlipat, try the sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[05:25] <bazhang> radlipat, if that fails, then you have a couple of options (as clearly your earlier upgrade route did some damage)
[05:26] <radlipat> failed again
[05:27] <bazhang> option a: use the dapper cd to reinstall and go through the upgrade route (correct route) again
[05:28] <radlipat> b?
[05:28] <bazhang> option b: burn the iso to cd/usb stick and do a fresh install, or wait for hardy/intrepid disks from shipit
[05:28] <bazhang> the iso referring to hardy/intrepid of course
[05:28] <radlipat> how much space does iso take?
[05:29] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com <--available here
[05:29] <radlipat> my mp3 player work?
[05:29] <bazhang> with the proper codecs likely (if you are referring to iPod)
[05:29] <radlipat> no
[05:29] <radlipat> reg mp3 dang
[05:30] <bazhang> should do
[05:30] <radlipat> 624 meg left
[05:30] <bazhang> hopefully not a zune
[05:30] <radlipat> but i have a backup of all songs
[05:30] <radlipat> no not zune zune sucks
[05:30] <bazhang> so those are your options. come back if you need more help
[05:30] <radlipat> philips
[05:31] <bazhang> iso is less than 700mb
[05:31] <radlipat> how i make my mp3 player read b4 harddrive?
[05:31] <bazhang> good luck :)
[05:31] <radlipat> how late u on for?
[05:32] <bazhang> 10 more seconds
[05:32] <radlipat> awwwwwwwww
[05:32] <klobster> ACKACKACK!!!  The PC speaker on my mobo won't stop beeping!  how do I kill it!?!
[05:32] <radlipat> lol no friends list eather
[05:32] <radlipat> do you have skypee?
[05:33] <bazhang> see you later radlipat ; come back if you need help with options a or b
[05:33] <radlipat> skype
[05:33] <bazhang> nope
[05:33] <zapunidis>  здесь тольк на анг
[05:33] <radlipat> when u on again next week?
[05:33] <zapunidis> ?
[05:33] <bazhang> !ru | zapunidis
[05:33] <bazhang> zapunidis, /join #ubuntu-ru
[05:34] <radlipat> u on next week?
[05:34] <bazhang> later today/tomorrow/everyday
[05:36] <zapunidis> тогда один вапрос почему нечего кроме amarok не васпраизводит звука?
[05:40] <uman> Hi guys. Im having a bit of a problem with ubuntu 8.10. In the network manager i can add wired/wireless/mobile broadband/DSL connections but the "ADD" vpn connection is grayed out. Any idea on how to fix this: Ps: What is the best way to create a VPN in ubuntu that is compatible with the iphone/ipod touch? Thanks
[05:58] <alakhia> does anyone have recommendations on what to use to manage my finances? I tried using kmymoney2 for half an hour and it is horrible
[06:02] <Mamarok> alakhia: why do you find it horrible?
[06:02] <Mamarok> too complex maybe?
[06:03] <Mamarok> then gnucash is not a solution neither
[06:04] <alakhia> Mamarok: well, i exported my data from the bank to an OFX file
[06:04] <\Kira> anybody have any experience with krecordmydesktop? After I record and select a destination to record to, the icon turns gray and wont respond. Not really sure whats going on...
[06:04] <alakhia> Mamarok: now, everything is in blinking red text
[06:05] <alakhia> Mamarok: i read the faq and it says i need to categorize my entries
[06:05] <Mamarok> alakhia: yes, of course, else it will not work correctly
[06:05] <alakhia> Mamarok: so, I tried to search by my payroll company
[06:06] <alakhia> Mamarok: i figured I'll select them all and set the category
[06:06] <alakhia> Mamarok: i can't select all of them ... have to do it manually
[06:06] <alakhia> one by one
[06:06] <Mamarok> alakhia: you should ask the kmymoney2 folks on their forum
[06:06] <alakhia> where would that be? are they on irc?
[06:06] <Mamarok> alakhia: well, that's how accounting works, there's a lot of setup to do on your side I'm afraid
[06:07] <alakhia> Mamarok: i don't mind the setup ... but when I select the category for a few items, it still shows up as red
[06:07] <Mamarok> alakhia: check here: http://forum.kde.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=69,
[06:07] <alakhia> that leaves me with little faith
[06:07] <Mamarok> don't know of a particular channel on irc
[06:08] <alakhia> and i don't want to categorize one item at a time only to find out i did it wrong
[06:08] <Mamarok> alakhia: you have to build your categories first, then import your data I would say...
[06:08] <alakhia> well, i already found categories for payroll
[06:09] <alakhia> here's another funny thing
[06:09] <alakhia> if i do: edit splits and enter a category, close and then come back, the category is gone
[06:10] <alakhia> and the entire amount again shows up as uncategorized
[06:11] <Mamarok> alakhia: what version do you unse, 0.9.2 or 0.8?
[06:11] <Mamarok> *use
[06:11] <alakhia> 0.8.8
[06:11] <Mamarok> hm, you really should ask on their forum, that's where the devs are
[06:11] <alakhia> Mamarok: oh, i figured it out. I need to click on the "Enter" button
[06:12] <alakhia> if i just hit enter, it doesn't get saved
[06:12] <Mamarok> well, of course, you have to validate the entries :)
[06:12] <alakhia> but if i hit enter, shouldn't it do something sane like as if i hit the "enter" button
[06:12] <Mamarok> that's a bug then, if the enter key is not set, go to their forum!
[06:12] <alakhia> ok, it sounds like that's what I will do
[06:13] <alakhia> thanks for your help and for listening to me rant
[06:13] <alakhia> :-(
[06:13] <Mamarok> alakhia: your are welcome :)
[06:34] <snarkster> anyone else having issues with amarok and kde4.2 beta
[06:35] <snarkster> amarok starts fine in XFCE and works pretty good, but just will not start up in kde at all.
[06:35] <reenignEesreveR> what is LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable and why is it set by KDE?
[06:42] <Firefishe> snarkster: I'm not that brave ;).  As it is, I'm running 4.1.x kubuntu, and the graphic latency redraw on my desktop--with an Nvidia 9700M GT 512mb GPU and the proprietary (177) Nvidia driver--is horrible.  I have to wait an average of 5 to 10 seconds to be able to use anything I click on.
[06:43] <Firefishe> snarkster: Any way to speed things up?
[06:43] <stdin> reenignEesreveR: in Hardy?
[06:52] <Andrew``> hmmm.. just reading about getting amarok 2.. it shows that kubuntu 8.1 should be using KDE 4 yet I am using 3.5 ... any reason why?
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> anyone know why I still get a blank screen when X starts with the new 8.12 catalyst driver with a HD4850 card, I have followed the howto on the wiki to the letter, also /var/log/xorg.log.0.old doesnt shine a light on the matter as no error is showing
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> the old catalyst driver also had the same problem, the radeon driver works but obviously I have no 3D support
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> the official packages in the kubuntu repo also result in a blank screen when x starts
[06:58] <rogan> linux users may like this post http://www.blogpirate.org/2008/12/12/teacher-bans-linux-what-you-may-not-have-heard/
[06:59] <Expecto> Catalyst is one of the main reasons I'm happy to have gone nvidia. Can't stand ATI  Linux support
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> Expecto: my old machine had an nvidia card and the laugh is kubuntu also showed me a blank screen until I ran envy
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> kubuntu + proprietry video driver = needs work
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> could it be the ati radeon driver needs xorg.conf to be filled in unlike the open source radeon driver ?
[07:08] <Expecto> @rogan: wow.  Just... Wow
[07:09] <Expecto> @Linux_Galore: I don't know. Restricted drivers always did me well
[07:23] <snarkster> Firefishe: wow someone else having an issue with speed as well? it takes me over a minute to get dolphin to even open
[07:24] <pronoy> how do i install opera on kubuntu 8.10
[07:24] <pronoy> ?
[07:24] <Firefishe> snarkster:  I don't know what the ubuntu team were thinking nixxing kde 3.5.x so soon.  I just don' t follow their thinking.  No flames please.
[07:24] <eklypze> anyone know the best site for kde4.1 customization? (specifically window styles)
[07:24] <Firefishe> snarkster:  Do you use gnome?
[07:25] <eklypze> kde-look has like 4 to choose from <.<
[07:25] <Dr_Willis_TCE> !opera
[07:26] <snarkster> nah I dont normally use gnome.. but i do have xfce which to me looks just like gnome
[07:26] <bhramar> Hi ! I am facing problem with photo quality on any webpage... They are little coarse grained. I am using Firefox 3.0.1. Does anyone know what can be done to improve photo quality?
[07:31] <ubuntu__> hi, how r u?
[07:32] <jussi01> piotreceq: this is a support channel, if you have a question, please ask, if you just want to chatter, please go to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:32] <piotreceq> aha
[07:32] <jussi01> :)
[07:35] <bhramar> I was disconnected due to some reason. Did someone answered my question?
[07:36] <jussi01> bhramar: no, noone answered.
[07:36] <jussi01> bhramar: and Ive no idea on how to fix that, sorry.
[07:37] <bhramar> Thanks jussi01 for replying. It's fine.
[07:42] <snarkster> good night
[07:44] <Expecto> Battlestar galactica!
[07:55] <Expecto> Anyone see this?
[07:55] <Expecto> I'm a cylon
[07:58] <eklypze> hey, can anyone using kubuntu 8.10 tell me how to install a new font?
[07:59] <piotreceq> I've got a question, is there a 'games' menu in kubuntu 8.04 or how to add it?
[08:00] <Ab3L> hello
[08:01] <piotreceq> hi Ab3L
[08:01] <Ab3L> i am trying to run kubuntu 8.10 in virtualbox. the problem is that i am not able to install the guest additions.
[08:01] <jussi01> piotreceq: you need to install some games, then the menu will come
[08:02] <piotreceq> can I add games with 'Add/Remove Programs'?
[08:02] <dr_willis> THere are some games in that list... its just a 'package manager lite' front end..
[08:02] <dr_willis> brb
[08:03] <piotreceq> oĸ, ŧħąńĸ yóu vęry µućħ
[08:03] <Ab3L> and other games shall be added through adept or installed manually
[08:03] <piotreceq> kk
[08:03] <piotreceq> how do u change nick's color?
[08:04] <Ab3L> i am trying to run kubuntu 8.10 in virtualbox. the problem is that i am not able to install the guest additions. the host is a machine running on ubuntu 8.04
[08:04] <Ab3L> if you want to see my log, you find it in : http://pastebin.com/d37eea26
[08:09] <pronoy> can anyone tell me the official channel for ubuntu gaming arena ?
[08:09] <piotreceq> i quit
[08:09] <piotreceq> bb
[08:24] <davide> Anyone here?
[08:27] <Guest81291> can anyone tell me how to change my resolution to something bigger than 800X600?
[08:29] <jussi01> !fixres | Guest81291
[08:50] <eagles0513875> hi jussi01
[08:52] <Tupac_Shakur> helloo to al hommies
[08:53] <eagles0513875> hi
[08:53] <eagles0513875> !hi | Tupac_Shakur
[09:09] <eagles0513875> anyone else having issues with knetwork manage
[09:09] <eagles0513875> manager*
[09:11] <jussi01> !anyone | eagles0513875 - you should know this by now ;)
[09:13] <eagles0513875> im having issues with static ips in knetoworkmanager and i know already there is a bug out for it and 2ndly im not able to find any wifi networks
[09:13] <eagles0513875> and i have one right in the room with me
[09:23] <Timmy> I just updated my graphics cafrd drivers and 1280x1024 is lo longer a resolution option, how can I get this back?
[09:30] <ryxxed> you need to edit xorg.conf
[09:31] <ryxxed> it happened to me way back with a 7600gs
[09:32] <Timmy> I'm on a 7300gs :p
[09:32] <Timmy> Its yuck.
[09:32] <Timmy> What would I need to put in xorg?
[09:32] <ryxxed> can't really remember, there's a tutorial you can look up
[09:33] <ryxxed> oh, and don't forget to put the custom refresh rate
[09:33] <ryxxed> working in 50 isn't that good
[09:37] <stefanjrklb> hello
[09:37] <CrazyKlompjes> hi there :)
[09:37] <stefanjrklb> i have problem
[09:38] <stefanjrklb> can you help me ?
[09:38] <CrazyKlompjes> tell me about it :D
[09:38] <CrazyKlompjes> maybe
[09:38] <CrazyKlompjes> I might be able to help you
[09:38] <stefanjrklb> thx
[09:38] <CrazyKlompjes> so what's the problem?
[09:38] <stefanjrklb> curently i have new kubuntu installed 8.10 for 64 bit procesors
[09:38] <stefanjrklb> but i want to installed kubuntu also new for 32 bit
[09:39] <CrazyKlompjes> But let me guess, you don't want to overwrite everything?
[09:39] <stefanjrklb> and I download the this kubuntu and burn it into cd
[09:39] <stefanjrklb> now :)
[09:39] <CrazyKlompjes> oh...ok
[09:39] <stefanjrklb> no :)
[09:39] <CrazyKlompjes> and the cd doesn't install properly
[09:39] <piotreceq> how to log in as a root in kubuntu 8.04?
[09:39] <stefanjrklb> but when i start instalation
[09:40] <stefanjrklb> the graphics instalation dosent start
[09:40] <eagles0513875> !root | piotreceq
[09:40] <ryxxed> just use sudo passwd root
[09:40] <CrazyKlompjes> so you click on the install-but the installation doesn't pop up...
[09:40] <stefanjrklb> i can see you know something like in terminal
[09:40] <stefanjrklb> yes
[09:40] <eagles0513875> piotreceq O_o was hoping that it would link you to how to enable root account
[09:41] <ryxxed> someone tell me how to get ip of my computer in the lan
[09:41] <CrazyKlompjes> have you tried using the cd twice or checking if there are any defects with the cd?
[09:41] <ryxxed> wait, wait, wait, never mind
[09:41] <ryxxed> i remembered
[09:41] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: in the console, type ifconfig
[09:41] <stefanjrklb> i must say that I try it something around 5 times
[09:42] <stefanjrklb> maybe i can install it by text mode instalation
[09:42] <stefanjrklb> do you know what to do ?
[09:42] <CrazyKlompjes> just a question-is your internet fast enough to download from another server another .iso image?
[09:42] <ryxxed> yeah, i know
[09:42] <ryxxed> here's the deal, i got everything working to share internet from my kubuntu to xp
[09:42] <stefanjrklb> yes :)
[09:42] <CrazyKlompjes> my guess is that you used http download right?
[09:43] <ryxxed> lan is operational, everything is working
[09:43] <stefanjrklb> yes
[09:43] <ryxxed> but it's not getting the internet, LAN is working though
[09:43] <ryxxed> nothing, no packets
[09:43] <ryxxed> i did static ip setup, do i have to enable the default gateway?
[09:43] <ryxxed> or just the DNS?
[09:44] <CrazyKlompjes> try getting an .iso file from another server-and if the second .iso image doesn't work then it's a pc problem (sometimes I have to download 2 images before I get one that works 100%)
 do you think i should download it not by http ?
[09:44] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: I think your dns might be --
[09:44] <stefanjrklb> ok :)
[09:44] <CrazyKlompjes> missing
[09:45] <stefanjrklb> but you know i had kubuntu installed but it is 64 bit
[09:45] <CrazyKlompjes> stefanjrklb: you could try bit torrent
[09:45] <CrazyKlompjes> yes I know, but 64bit has flash problems
[09:45] <CrazyKlompjes> So I heard
[09:45] <ryxxed> my dns might be --?
[09:45] <ryxxed> you can manually install it
[09:45] <ryxxed> not really hard
[09:45] <stefanjrklb> yes that is why i want 32 bit :)
[09:45] <ryxxed> or if you're lazy, you can just install 32 bit firefox
[09:45] <stefanjrklb> because of flash :)
[09:45] <ryxxed> go 32bit firefox
[09:45] <ryxxed> on 64bit
[09:46] <ryxxed> trust me, works flawlessly
[09:46] <eagles0513875> im on 64bit and probably running a few 32bit apps wihtout knowing it
[09:46] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: your internet only stops working when you go static right? Maybe try jotting down your automated ip address with the gateway and dns and then using similar settings when you use the static ip address-
[09:46] <ryxxed> no, it never worked
[09:46] <ryxxed> i tried firestarter, everything probably
[09:47] <ryxxed> this is the first time LAN worked, as in, not showing the warning icon on XP
[09:47] <ryxxed> now i just need it to somehow share internet
[09:47] <ryxxed> just did ifconfig, not getting any adresses from eth0
[09:47] <ryxxed> which is my network card
[09:48] <ryxxed> any ideas?
[09:48] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: your router is connected to the internet I presume
[09:50] <ryxxed> no router :/
[09:50] <ryxxed> only a USB DSL modem
[09:50] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: just wondering, you say you have no internet yet you're on the internet right now O.
[09:50] <CrazyKlompjes> O.o
[09:50] <ryxxed> which is connected, as in pp;0
[09:50] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[09:50] <ryxxed> *ppp0
[09:51] <CrazyKlompjes> But that usb modem(you got dsl I guess) does have a lan cable right?
[09:51] <CrazyKlompjes> you can plug a cable in-
[09:51] <ryxxed> yap
[09:51] <ryxxed> i'm running between rooms, can't really respond quickly
[09:52] <eagles0513875> ryxxed you connected through a router
[09:52] <eagles0513875> or a small switch
[09:52] <eagles0513875> for how ever many machines u running
[09:52] <ryxxed> connecting with a usb modem
[09:53] <ryxxed> 2 computers
[09:53] <eagles0513875> directly to the modem
[09:54] <ryxxed> yeah, my kubuntu is connected to the modem
[09:54] <ryxxed> with a usb cable
[09:54] <eagles0513875> there is ur problem
[09:55] <ryxxed> huh?
[09:55] <eagles0513875> having 2 machines fighting for a single ip that you get from your isp
[09:55] <eagles0513875> you need to have a router to manage internal network ips
[09:55] <eagles0513875> via router dhcp
[09:55] <eagles0513875> ryxxed can i pm ya
[09:55] <ryxxed> sure thing
[10:16] <Ab3L> re
[10:18] <TimS> Hmm, I edited my xorg and 1280x1024 still isn't showing up
[10:21] <ryxxed> hm
[10:21] <ryxxed> have you searched all the forum topics regarding that problem?
[10:22] <eagles0513875> ryxxed :)
[10:23] <ryxxed> i had the same problem ages ago :p
[10:26] <ryxxed> tims, is it working?
[10:26] <TimS> Yup
[10:26] <ryxxed> put it under the wrong device?
[10:26] <TimS> I just rand sudo nvidia-xconfig in the end
[10:26] <ryxxed> hah
[10:26] <TimS> No, the xorg editing never helped :/
[10:27] <ryxxed> :/
[10:27] <ryxxed> that's how i did it
[10:27] <ryxxed> um
[10:28] <ryxxed> nvidia-xconfig, that's like a GUI for xorg.conf, right?
[10:30] <CrazyKlompjes> ryxxed: yes it's, but I usually stick to Envy to do the dirty work :P
[10:30] <ryxxed> well, i did too, back when i started with ubuntu
[10:31] <ryxxed> still had the same problem with the resolution
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> but nowadays
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> I don't use the driver though
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> from Nvidia
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> especially on KDE 4--it kind of slows things down
[10:31] <ryxxed> if you enable the effects
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> My Geforce 9500m GS can't take it :(
[10:31] <CrazyKlompjes> I have the effects all disabled
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> just the 2d things slow down a bit
[10:32] <ryxxed> my 7600gs is handling it not that bad
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> 3d is perfect-
[10:32] <ryxxed> and it's a piece of shit
[10:32] <ryxxed> really
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> lol
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> it can't be that bad-
[10:32] <ryxxed> it doesn't have a cooler
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> With me I'm waiting till Nvidia finally has my graphics card under their new drivers section--
[10:32] <CrazyKlompjes> oh :(
[10:32] <ryxxed> DDR2, 128-bit bus width
[10:33] <ryxxed> 256 MB VRAM
[10:33] <ryxxed> i can't even play team fortress 2
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> ...you should be able to with 256 mb of vram...
[10:33] <ryxxed> and i have a 22" widescreen, my refresh rate is docked to 60hz
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> maybe you can't play it nicely...
[10:33] <ryxxed> i can, but it's laggy
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> but you should be able to--"play" it...
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> ok
[10:33] <ryxxed> terrible for 20 man servers
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> put the graphics down then
[10:33] <CrazyKlompjes> do you go into Windows?
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> to play the games?
[10:34] <ryxxed> well i did
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> or play it under wine...now?
[10:34] <ryxxed> yeah
[10:34] <ryxxed> hell no
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> Cedega?
[10:34] <ryxxed> no
[10:34] <ryxxed> windows
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> ok
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> Windows does what it does best-
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> just play games
[10:34] <ryxxed> i turned down some, but the cell shading looks stupid without some settings
[10:34] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[10:35] <CrazyKlompjes> yeah that might be true
[10:35] <ryxxed> yeah, i disabled everything possible
[10:35] <CrazyKlompjes> do you use a desktop?
[10:35] <ryxxed> yap
[10:35] <CrazyKlompjes> Then why not just replace it with a newer card!?!?
[10:35] <eagles0513875> do i need samba installed so that my linux machine will automatically open the necessary samba port cuz im having issues streaming audio on a windows vista box on my lan
[10:35] <ryxxed> well, uh, i'm short on money
[10:35] <ryxxed> kind of
[10:35] <ryxxed> isn't samba preinstalled or something?
[10:37] <ryxxed> anyway, uh, my network is disconnected, the LAN one, is there a way to tell ubuntu to just ignore it?
[10:37] <ryxxed> the status in pidgin is kind of irritating me
[10:38] <Dr_willis> samba server is not preinstalled.
[10:38] <Dr_willis> You can browse windows  shares without it.. but you may want to set the proper workgropup in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:38] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis would that help wiht my issue at all
[10:39] <Dr_willis> No idea what your issue really is....
[10:39]  * Dr_willis is fighting with a picky machine all night. :)
[10:39] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis wanting to play music thats on my vista machine and its not even loading in amarok
[10:39] <eagles0513875> amarok  2 in 1.4 used to get an error message though
[10:40] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  you may want to actually MOUNT the windows shares to a directory. that can save a lot of problems.
[10:40] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis how
[10:40] <eagles0513875> !info apt-build | ryxxed
[10:41] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  proper use of the mount command, or other tools..  and an entry int he fstab is one way
[10:41] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[10:41] <Dr_willis> mounting remote shares is documented all over the place.. id have to relook it up.
[10:42] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis could i install samba on my windows machine
[10:43] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  samba  the name of the 'tool' that is the 'smb' protocall..  its basicially allready ON windows machines
[10:43] <Dr_willis> windows has the share/network-neighbothood/smb/netbui/whatever other names they got for the silly protocall/servers  installed.. :)
[10:43] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis ok
[10:44] <eagles0513875> im thinking my issue is a linux port issue
[10:44] <eagles0513875> nmap is showing no port are open on linux
[10:44] <Dr_willis> People often think that 'networking' is ONLY  when 2 machiens can see each otehrs shares.. :)  thats just one service
[10:44] <eagles0513875> but im streaming audio from a stream and able to copy stuff off of windows machine
[10:44] <Dr_willis>  You are trying to share things over the internet or a lan?
[10:44] <eagles0513875> lan
[10:45] <Dr_willis> the kde file manager 'browses' the samba network..  - it does NOT mount the 'shares'  to access them.. this can cause issues when playinb video and audio files  in the kde file manager
[10:45] <Dr_willis> if you MOUNT the shares.. you should have no problems
[10:45] <eagles0513875> !samba
[10:45] <eagles0513875> gotcha doc
[10:47] <Dr_willis> !appdb
[10:47] <ryxxed> this apt-build looks like fun
[10:47] <ryxxed> anyway i can do it on already installed kubuntu and programs?
[10:48] <eagles0513875> ryxxed ya i am wnating to do a whole os rebuild but for some reason i cant
[10:49] <ryxxed> apt-build world?
[10:50] <eagles0513875> ya does whole system re compile and optimization
[10:50] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis any idea about that
[10:50] <ryxxed> why doesn't it work?
[10:50] <ryxxed> uh, if i do apt-build amarok
[10:51] <ryxxed> will it overwrite my amarok install, or do i have to remove it first?
[10:51] <eagles0513875> not sure
[10:51] <eagles0513875> i did this with a completely clean install
[10:52] <ryxxed> i'll give it a try
[10:52] <ryxxed> ah come on
[10:52] <ryxxed> sempron's are athlon architecture based processors
[10:52] <ryxxed> right?
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ryxxed not sure first one i had was athlon 64
[10:55] <ryxxed> it says k8
[10:55] <ryxxed> for apt-build
[10:56] <eagles0513875> not sure about semprons bro tbh
[10:57] <ryxxed> says something about read readme.debian first
[10:57] <ryxxed> when i try world
[10:57] <ryxxed> anyway i can skip that?
[10:58] <liyu_> which ip
[10:58] <ryxxed> what?
[10:58] <eagles0513875> ryxxed no you cant thats what tells apt-build how to optimize the code
[10:58] <eagles0513875> i think its k8
[10:59] <ryxxed> it is
[10:59] <ryxxed> but how do i read this debian stuff
[10:59] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:59] <eagles0513875> Dr_willis so would mounting windows share permanently fix my issue of not playing mp3's
[11:00] <Dr_willis> eagles0513875,  one way to find out......
[11:00] <eagles0513875> true that
[11:00] <Dr_willis> you can mount them to a directory from the command line as a test... and see
[11:01] <eagles0513875> O_o how do i do that
[11:03] <KomiaPoika> hi
[11:03] <KomiaPoika> where is my pouch with all my install cd's
[11:03] <KomiaPoika> can't find it
[11:03] <KomiaPoika> ok, found it
[11:03] <ryxxed> good job on letting us know
[11:04] <KomiaPoika> indeed
[11:04] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:07] <ryxxed> eagles0513875 - http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/
[11:10] <nahy> i installed kubuntu 8.10 but it does not boot the initial screen that shows file system loading and the others pops but ut doesn't continue and freezes
[11:11] <ryxxed> wait, what
[11:11] <nahy> i said the booting process freezes
[11:12] <ryxxed> before even getting to the boot selection?
[11:12] <nahy> no no
[11:12] <nahy> after that
[11:12] <ryxxed> when you get to the grub screen
[11:12] <ryxxed> it freezes?
[11:12] <nahy> after grub
[11:13] <ryxxed> so your kubuntu freezes
[11:13] <nahy> when the screen that shows some icons
[11:13] <nahy> yeah
[11:13] <ryxxed> ah
[11:13] <ryxxed> have you tried clicking?
[11:13] <ryxxed> that's the splash for loading
[11:14] <nahy> i can only the icon of the hard disc that means file system
[11:14] <nahy> aha
[11:14] <nahy> that's it
[11:14] <nahy> yes i tried clicking
[11:14] <ryxxed> hm
[11:14] <ryxxed> and it just stands at the splash
[11:14] <ryxxed> not doing anything?
[11:15] <nahy> i thought that it may be my x
[11:15] <nahy> but im not a pro
[11:15] <ryxxed> did you uninstall any packages?
[11:15] <nahy> started just a mounth
[11:15] <nahy> no
[11:15] <nahy> that was a fresh install
[11:15] <ryxxed> you don't have an ancient shitty pc or something like that?
[11:16] <nahy> i haven't used it even for the first time
[11:16] <nahy> no
[11:16] <nahy> it works good with win
[11:16] <ryxxed> maybe there's something wrong with uh, the cd
[11:16] <ryxxed> i don't know...
[11:16] <nahy> i tried ubuntu
[11:17] <ryxxed> same thing?
[11:17] <nahy> it has the same problem too
[11:17] <nahy> may be my hardware has a problem
[11:17] <ryxxed> can you start the live cd?
[11:17] <nahy> ?
[11:17] <nahy> i haven't tried
[11:18] <ryxxed> did you write the installations on a CDRW?
[11:18] <ryxxed> perhaps?
[11:18] <nahy> no
[11:18] <nahy> it's an original cd
[11:19] <ryxxed> well, i have no clue then
[11:19] <nahy> if the problem is hardware so why does win work
[11:20] <nahy> how can i ask anyone else?
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> anyone know if there is a deb package of the radeonhd 1.2.4 for intrepid,  it has support for the ATi HD4800 series missing in the stock package ubuntu is offering ?
[11:21] <nahy> ryxxed: how can i find the answer
[11:22] <nahy> thank you anyway
[11:23] <nahy> i'm leaving
[11:23] <blackflag> Hello all: I upgraded to 8.10. I found the new kde design to dark and want to change it. How or where can I change the standard design?
[11:25] <jussi01> blackflag: you mean the colours of the desktop items? (plasmoids?)
[11:29] <jca_> hi all
[11:29] <blackflag> all: the control thing ( dont know the word in english) I dont find the programms its totally dark.
[11:30] <jca_> can anyone give me an easy solution to mount a smb drive in kde, without using console?
[11:34] <jussi01> jca_: go to dolphin, in the address bar (accessed with the little thing on the right) type: smb://
[11:34] <jussi01> blackflag: right click the desktop, desktop settings, change the desktop theme
[11:38] <jca_> jussi01 problem that wont mount it so i can access my music via amarok :S
[11:39] <jussi01> jca_: ahh, you didnt say you needed it like that ;)
[11:39] <jca_> jussi01 well how can i do that :)
[11:40] <jussi01> jca_: to be honest, im not sure. the only way I know is through fstab, which you need at least a little command line for...
[11:41] <jca_> i can do it trough fstab just think there must be an easyer way to mount smb
[11:41] <Dr_willis> you can do it with the command line...
[11:42] <Dr_willis> there used to be some tools like smb4k that could do it.. but with kde4 - not sure if those still work
[11:42] <Dr_willis> the fusesmb tool was a neat way also.. but its been very flakey lately
[11:44] <jca_> Dr_willis: thats a needed feature for newcomers to linux
[11:46] <jca_> im gonna try the fusesmb
[11:48] <Dr_willis> Most peopel are able to use the browse feature of the file manager.. but lately its been flakey in some cases.
[11:48] <Dr_willis> gnome file manager also has issues.
[11:49] <Dr_willis> Of course you dont want to get me started onm the fighting ive had to do lately to get 2 windows machines to see each others shares... :P
[11:49] <jca_> i have no problem with windows i just need a easy way on linux
[11:50] <liyu> help
[11:50] <liyu> help me
[11:50] <jca_> i think tinkering with comandline every time  take too much time
[11:51] <Dr_willis> I think the command line is the fastest way.
[11:51] <Dr_willis> Then again   If you had a proper entry in the fstab file.. you dont have to tinker with it any more
[11:51] <liyu> which player can play rmvb file
[11:52] <jca_> Dr_willis: yea problem is amarok wont use that fetature
[11:53] <jca_> whats the command line tool to mount smb smbclient?
[11:53] <Dr_willis> I forget.. id have to look it up. in the samba-doc books, or google for examples..
[11:53] <Dr_willis> the bot gave a url earlier with examples I think
[11:54] <Dr_willis> !samba
[11:55] <Dr_willis> mount -t smbfs -o username=<username>,password=<password> //<win-box>/<share> /mnt/<name-of-mountpoint>
[11:55] <Dr_willis> I hear that one should use cifs instead of smbfs
[12:03] <tictric> /server/share /home/user/shares/ cifs credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[12:03] <tictric> that's how I use it
[12:06] <tictric> jca_: the above is in my /etc/fstab
[12:10] <arocc> scusate che il canale è inglese?
[12:10] <jussi01> arocc: yes, this channel is only english
[12:10] <tictric> !it
[12:11] <arocc> ok
[12:11] <arocc> thank you
[12:11] <tictric> prego!
[12:12] <petra_> I change the kde design to web-colors, now I have black sreen, all is black. How can I change the seetings under console?
[12:31] <Guest76310> hey.. any tricks to get past kd4 freezing up when I try to enable desktop effects?
[12:33] <ryxxed> uh, got your drivers installed?
[12:33] <petra__> how can I change the colure of the window bar?
[12:34] <petra__> How can I add programms to the window bar?
[12:34] <petra__> Can someone help?
[12:35] <ryxxed> window bar?
[12:37] <petra__> yes dont know  the word in english: when I minimize prgram windows they are located then in thew window bar
[12:38] <pronoy> using useradd command what is the default password alloted to the user ??
[12:38] <pronoy> !accounts
[12:38] <ryxxed> don't think there's anny
[12:38] <ryxxed> *any
[12:38] <ryxxed> just do sudo passwd username
[12:39] <robin0800> petra__: its called panel
[12:39] <ryxxed> and put a password for the user
[12:39] <petra__> ahh, okay!
[12:39] <petra__> how can I change the color?
[12:39] <robin0800> right click on desktop
[12:40] <robin0800> choose desktop settings
[12:41] <petra__> okay thanks!
[12:41] <RurouniJones> Anyone now of a handy program to convert RTF to ascii?
[12:49] <marc-andre> hiho
[12:50] <marc-andre> how can i see in the console where to a file is linked ?
[13:07] <Guest24426> how do i figure out which nvidia driver I need?
[13:08] <KomiaPoika> the linux ones
[13:08] <KomiaPoika> i386 if you have intel, amd64 if you have athlon
[13:08] <Guest24426> yeah but product and series
[13:09] <KomiaPoika> what nvidia card do you have?
[13:09] <Guest24426> I opened the box but I can only find "nvidia" and I don't know which one it is..
[13:09] <Guest24426> probably about 4 years old
[13:09] <KomiaPoika> what does the box say
[13:09] <ryxxed> use envy
[13:09] <Guest24426> ah, right.. envy was the trick!
[13:09] <Guest24426> I'll try that one :)
[13:09] <ryxxed> by the way
[13:10] <ryxxed> is it an mx 440?
[13:10] <KomiaPoika> or dmesg
[13:10] <Guest24426> don't really know what I have :P
[13:10] <ryxxed> uh
[13:12] <Guest24426> dmesg | grep "nvidia"
[13:12] <Guest24426> [   12.312559] agpgart-nvidia 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe0000000
[13:12] <Guest24426> does that tell you something
[13:13] <ryxxed> it's an AGP
[13:13] <robin0800> Guest24426: try lspci
[13:13] <ryxxed> which means ancient
[13:14] <Guest24426> thx, robin0800.. says Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IGP2 (rev c1)
[13:15] <ryxxed> that's his mobo
[13:15] <Guest24426> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]
[13:15] <Guest24426> so I have geforece fx 5600 then
[13:15] <ryxxed> yeah
[13:16] <Guest24426> lol i bet it's ancient yes
[13:16] <Guest24426> ;)
[13:16] <ryxxed> i have an mx 440
[13:16] <robin0800> Guest24426: might still work ok
[13:16] <ryxxed> way older
[13:17] <ryxxed> back when geforce 4k series was apstract
[13:18] <ariela> Hi folks ... I've some problems with video playback (from dvd or video_ts on my hd), with any player (I've tested vlc, xine-ui, mplayer): every 10-15 sec I see the video jenky (is that the correct word? :) ), and from vlc cli I see 'late picture skipped'
[13:20] <ariela> I've already tryed modifying the DVD cache (from 300ms to 1000 and counting) on vlc, without any luck ... but the problem is on mplayer and xine-ui, so I think is could be a kde issue
[13:21] <robin0800> ariela: probably a video driver problem
[13:22] <ariela> robin0800 good idea ... what could I do to see which is my video card (I've a Dell D620 laptop) and maybe a new driver to test?
[13:22] <robin0800> glxgears will give framrate
[13:23] <ariela> 4952 frames in 5.0 seconds = 990.261 FPS
[13:24] <robin0800> should be ok
[13:24] <ariela> normally I have no problems with ibex, with any application ... only opening firefox, but just for 2-3 sec
[13:24] <ariela> the issue is focused on the video playback
[13:25] <robin0800> check xorg log for any errors
[13:25] <ariela> k
[13:25] <ariela> tail xorg log and open vlc?
[13:26] <robin0800> ariela: you may need to add or remove options from xorg.conf
[13:28] <ariela> in the xorg log I see that:
[13:28] <ariela> http://pastebin.com/m48a2be6
[13:28] <ariela> in tail every few secs
[13:28] <ariela> what could I check in xorg.conf?
[13:29] <ryxxed> speaking of media files
[13:29] <ryxxed> is there a codec pack i can get for kubuntu
[13:30] <ariela> my xorg.conf is quite simple:
[13:30] <ariela> http://pastebin.com/m1f74889f
[13:30] <ariela> ryxxed a pack to see the video more fluently?
[13:31] <ryxxed> i can't even see video
[13:31] <ariela> ryxxed that is ... you can't even see a dvd with your distro?
[13:31] <_ubuntu> i am useing a old version of live cd kubuntu I change the source.list file but when it updatws it crashes
[13:31] <_ubuntu> update
[13:33] <ryxxed> uh, kind of
[13:33] <ryxxed> i start an .avi and no sound or video
[13:33] <_ubuntu> has anyone got a standard source list that they might paste bin mr please
[13:33] <_ubuntu> me
[13:34] <ariela> I've googled ... without any luck ... if you have more ideas about the video playback issue, please figure out :)
[13:35] <ariela> ryxxed I've tryed vlc ... it works correctly, audio ok ... video is a little jenky every 10 secs
[13:35] <robin0800> ariela: try ddc problem
[13:35] <ryxxed> i'll try it later
[13:36] <cumulus007> Hi. I'm using this repository: http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58. Does it contain nightly builds, or official releases only?
[13:36] <cumulus007> like Beta 1, 2 RC 1 etc.
[13:37] <ariela> there's a way to see the video card installed in my laptop?
[13:37] <Guest24426> hmm.. a guide says I should run "sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run", however I'm getting "no such command" when I try it .. any ideas?
[13:37] <ariela> (sorry for the newbie question :) )
[13:37] <ariela> robin0800 thanks ... I'll investigate
[13:38] <cumulus007> Guest24426: I advise you: don't install the driver that way
[13:38] <ryxxed> guest24426 ; use envy
[13:38] <Guest24426> ok.. I can install envy using synaptics?
[13:38] <ryxxed> type in terminal
[13:38] <cumulus007> or Hardware Drivers, it's built-in in Kubuntu
[13:38] <ryxxed> sudo aptitude install envy
[13:38] <ryxxed> or envyng
[13:39] <ryxxed> envy configures everything automatically
[13:39] <cumulus007> ryxxed: why not Hardware Drivers?
[13:39] <ryxxed> well, it doesn't matter
[13:39] <ryxxed> envy's easier, because it's configured automatically
[13:39] <cumulus007> Hardware Drivers is quicker
[13:40] <ariela> robin0800 ok, I've a Intel(r) 82945GM Chipset Family Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
[13:40] <ariela> I do a get-edid
[13:41] <ariela> Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
[13:41] <ariela> Monitor and video card combination supports DDC2 transfers
[13:41] <Guest24426> I've installed envyng-core and envyng-qt now.. still can't run "sudo envy -t" which I know I did last time I fixed this thing
[13:41] <ryxxed> it has a GUI
[13:42] <ryxxed> no need for terminal commands
[13:42] <Guest24426> ok found it :)
[13:43] <robin0800> ariela: you must force ddc2 don't know how though!
[13:46] <funbitz> hello. hope someone's willing to help.  i just downloaded and installed ubuntu 8.10, then the kubuntu-desktop, and the problem is that kde is kinda slow (for example my core 2 duo 8200 raises to 20% when i simply use a windows' drag bar, and the process is called xorg). i guess is a video card problem (mine is Nvidia geforce 9400GT)... to note that the Nvidia accelerate graphics driver...
[13:46] <funbitz> ...version 177 is activated. anyone, suggestions?
[13:46]  * timmy is away: Gone away for now
[13:47] <ariela> robin0800 in fact ... dmesg | grep vesa says nothing ...
[13:48] <KaZeR> hello there. i'm trying to use kubuntu as a media center
[13:48] <KaZeR> desktop display on TV is fine, but i have two issues :
[13:48] <KaZeR> xbmc doesn't run fullscreen (i get a black screen, period)
[13:49] <KaZeR> mplayer videos playback is ugly( some kind of flickering)
[13:49] <KaZeR> i have installed and enabled ati proprietary drivers
[13:49] <ariela> KaZeR same problem here ... with vlc
[13:50] <ariela> the video is jenky
[13:50] <ariela> KaZeR I've tryed vlc as well ... my problem is with the video playback
[13:50] <KaZeR> ariela, with xbmc it's fine, but i can't get it fullscreen
[13:58] <cuznt> !video
[13:59] <ubunturos> I wonder, why does it show 7.04
[14:03] <Leander256> voir Extreme en concert: c'est fait \m/
[14:03] <eagles0513875> !fr | Leander256
[14:04] <Leander256> sorry, wrong channel
[14:10] <ariela> robin0800 see that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=939027
[14:10] <ariela> robin0800 is my issue
[14:13] <ariela> but in this post, that user has solved the issue in ubuntu de-activating compiz ... on kubuntu I've already tryed to disabling desktop effects, .... no effects ;)
[14:27] <boy-stockholm> hi
[14:29] <sorush20> openoffice.org 3 crashes in ubuntu any help?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:33] <ariela> hi folks ... I've tryed that way http://dot.kde.org/1213447279/1214036849/
[14:33] <ariela> no luck :(
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hey all. I'm trying to use apt-file for a chuckle but when I run sudo apt-file updaet I get this error: Can't get http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/intrepid/Contents-amd64.gz. I've looked at /etc/apt/apt-file.conf but it makes very little sense, can anyone please assist
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Is there a way to change the file it attempts to download
[14:36] <cuznt> uncheck the repository wine is supported in?
[14:39] <BruceLeeds> hi
[14:40] <cuznt> greetings
[14:40] <Phlogi> which on eis the official kubuntu forums?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> !kaffeine
[14:41] <BluesKaj> !kaffiene
[14:41] <BluesKaj> kaffeine has disappeared from my mulimedia menu list , since the the last upgrade
[14:42] <engemec> hello
[14:42] <marek_> hi, where should i copy .desktop file with servicemenus in kde?
[14:42] <engemec> i have a dout
[14:42] <BruceLeeds> I've got a question regarding k3b: I would like to burn to mp3's on a cd but chop both in parts of 5 minutes. How can I do that other than using the function presented after a right klick on the sample, cause I will have to burn a lot and it would take ages to to aver chop manually
[14:42] <engemec> boubt
[14:42] <engemec> doubt
[14:42] <engemec> sorry!
[14:43] <BruceLeeds> I meant to do every chop manually
[14:43] <engemec> Well, i saw kubuntu 8.10. He's very beautiful. I'm a ubuntu user, but i would like to change to kubuntu.
[14:44] <BluesKaj> engemec, install kubuntu-desktop
[14:44] <engemec> ok
[14:44] <engemec> but i use some softwares
[14:44] <engemec> for example....
[14:44] <engemec> gimp
[14:45] <engemec> and server: apache, mysql and php
[14:46] <engemec> will i have some problem or  these sofwares are capable?
[14:46] <engemec> sorry, bu my english is terrible.
[14:46] <lolren> engemec:   those softwares will have no problem
[14:47] <lolren> they will work in kubuntu as in ubuntu
[14:48] <BluesKaj> engemec, what is your language ?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> !pt | engemec
[14:50] <lolren> !pt | lolren
[14:53] <engemec> thanks BluesKaj, but i need to practice my english
[14:54] <engemec> bye
[14:55] <ariela> ph.ubuntuforums.com is down?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ok, engemec do yo want to keep gnome desktop , you can choose either kde (kubuntu-desktop) or gnome  at the login page when you start your session
[14:56] <BluesKaj> heh, some practice
[15:09] <eljot> lakj2406
[15:12] <funbitz1> ok... here i go again, does anyone know why nvidia video cards have problems with kubuntu? when i resize a window my cpu goes crazy...
[15:14] <astromme> funbitz1: What GPU do you have? I have a 6600 GT with the nvidia binary drivers and my desktop is working very well.
[15:15] <funbitz1> astromme: 9400GT... what version of drivers do you use? (there in hardware drivers?)
[15:16] <funbitz1> did you install kubuntu from the beginning or install over a ubuntu installation?
[15:17] <astromme> funbitz1: I use 180.x I think... not entirely sure. However, if you're getting cpu spikes that's probably not dependant on your gpu. The window itself is still drawn by the cpu (mostly) and during resize I get some moderate cpu usage as it redraws my window. But nothing extreme and I don't have super laggy redrawing, just sort of laggy redrawing.
[15:17] <astromme> funbitz1: It was a new Ubuntu 8.10 install that I've upgraded to the jaunty alphas. Both worked fine with my nvidia card.
[15:24] <nyholm84> Anyone know how to activate SPIF or isnt it possible atm?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> nyholm84, SPDIF out ?
[15:28] <nyholm84> yes
[15:33] <ariela> I'm trying the totem-gstreamer
[15:33] <ariela> totem-xine has the same issue as vlc/xine-ui and mplayer
[15:35] <runpain2>  how do i stop an application from starting up when i boot up
[15:36] <BluesKaj> I use it to tranfer digital audio to the digital input on my HT Receiver , but the odd part is I have to set the alsamixer to analog on the iec958 ...but that was on my ati onboard soundcard
[15:37] <andrew_> Hello
[15:37] <andrew_> Could anybody help me with TV tuner please
[15:38] <runpain2> hello some please tell me  how do i stop an application from starting up when i boot up
[15:39] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[15:39] <runpain2> kdetv keeps coming up when i boot or reboot
[15:41] <AzizLight> I have a noob question: how do I move from one workspace to the other using the keyboard in Kubuntu? in Ubuntu I used Ctrl+Alt+[ArrowKeys]
[15:41] <bluelightning> now I've upgraded to intrepid, konversation opens quanta instead of konqueror when clicking URL links
[15:41] <bluelightning> this has something to do with it being a KDE3 app, obviously.. but I'm unsure how to fix it
[15:42] <bluelightning> any suggestions?
[15:42] <runpain2> hello some please tell me  how do i stop an application from starting up when i boot up
[15:42] <runpain2> kdetv keeps coming up when i boot or reboot
[15:47] <olskolirc> hey guys how do I uninstall this kde4.2 upgrade or kubuntu all together and start over with what came with my intrepid please?  command line?
[15:48] <Walzmyn> I just plugged in my external harddrive and it's telling me that it belongs to root and I cannot add anything to it - I've never had this problem before
[15:50] <olskolirc> oh cool Walzmyn I couldn't even find my hard drive
[15:51] <eagles0513875> how do i open ports on kubuntu
[15:51] <runpain2> how do i stop an application from starting at login on my session
[15:51] <Walzmyn> olskolirc, do what?
[15:52] <Walzmyn> What's the best way to set premissions on an external drive? 777?
[15:56] <KomiaPoika> chmod
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> Walzmyn--do you want to lose data?aka-by someone else with an linux os being able to delete stuff on it?
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> lol
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> KomiaPoikia answered
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> it correctly
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> my bad :P
[15:56] <CrazyKlompjes> KomiaPoika*
[15:57] <hazzy> I'm really impressed with the newest version of KDE
[15:57] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, i'm just going to be moving this drive between a couplle of computer of my own
[15:57] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, and using it as backup
[15:58] <CrazyKlompjes> alright, then 777 makes sense :)
[15:58] <CrazyKlompjes> mine is on the same setting(and I'm basically the only one that uses it)
[15:58] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, how did it get changed? All i've ever done is just plug this in and drop stuff on it. Now it's telling me I don't have premission
[15:59] <CrazyKlompjes> did you format the drive before you used it or no?
[15:59] <CrazyKlompjes> I have it -sadly-on fat32 as I have some game saves on it-
[15:59] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, yes. Brand new, broke up a couple of partitions and formatted the whole thing
[16:00] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, I put a 1% (smallest I could) fat 32 - and put the ext3 windows drivers on there, so i can install them on any Winders computer I run across
[16:00] <Walzmyn> err, fat32 partition
[16:00] <CrazyKlompjes> very smart of you-guess I need to do that-
[16:01] <CrazyKlompjes> usually I prefer one huge partition though on my external drive- :) but well-
[16:01] <CrazyKlompjes> have you checked their current permissions?
[16:01] <CrazyKlompjes> if it's still the same as you always have had it-
[16:01] <Walzmyn> CrazyKlompjes, that's what I have - one huge partition ... and one little bitty one
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> that makes 2 ;-)
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> haha
[16:02] <Walzmyn> I know
[16:02] <Walzmyn> but I do have one huge one
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> but yeah-more or less-you're right
[16:02] <Walzmyn> 500 Gb - 99% of that == huge in my book
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> aha-that's pretty big-
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> so
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> have you tried copying a file-
[16:02] <CrazyKlompjes> to the external
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> and then copying it again from the external to your pc?
[16:03] <Walzmyn> Yeah, iv'e got 1.5 gigs of pictures moving as we type
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> cool-
[16:03] <Walzmyn> I guess when I was setting all this up I had something opened though sudo and forgot it.
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> that explains a LOT!
[16:03] <Walzmyn> I'm thinking this is only the second time i've tried to back stuff up to the drive
[16:03] <Walzmyn> yeah
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> meaning that root user is the only one that can cut or move the files
[16:03]  * Walzmyn kicks himself
[16:03] <CrazyKlompjes> haha-dont worry-happened to me once or twice too
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> kde 4.2 is awesome
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> wazzup actionparsnip
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> and yep-I know it's :)
[16:04] <Walzmyn> is it out in final, or still beta?
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> the best thing-
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> but I still use KDE 4.1-
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> shame it doesnt port some things over from 4.1
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> you guys should try Amarok 2-
[16:04] <tzd> im still on kde 3.5.10 :)
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> haha
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> but well tzd-
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> you have the most stable
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> CrazyKlompjes: it came down fromi the repo
[16:04] <CrazyKlompjes> GUI out of us all-
[16:05] <Walzmyn> i'm still on 8.04 - I was waiting on the auto-hide panel in 4.2 to upgrade
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> actually it didnt
[16:05] <tzd> CrazyKlompjes: yeah, im a bit of a chicken :P Don't want to mess up my amarok suite and all other progs I'm using ;)
[16:05] <CrazyKlompjes> ActionParsnip-I added a new sources list-the difference is pretty cool I have to say-
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> CrazyKlompjes: how do you get it?
[16:05] <Walzmyn> Widescreen lappy - that panel takes up a lot of real estate
[16:05] <CrazyKlompjes> haha
[16:05] <CrazyKlompjes> tzd-you will make the big step forward some day
[16:05] <CrazyKlompjes> just a sec ActionParsnip-
[16:05] <CrazyKlompjes> need to find the url :)
[16:06] <uman> Hey guys. I just wanted to know, if i create a vpn server in my ubuntu box with pptp using this guide: http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=132029 ... will the data transfered be encrypted? (128 bit?) Thanks
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> CrazyKlompjes: ive got amarok nightly names in my installable apps, just need to know which to install
[16:06] <tzd> CrazyKlompjes: yeah... I'd like to do it now but yeah... too much hassle... I wonder when the devs will make bluetooth and syncing as easy as it should be?
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> uman: yeah should be. the server software wll perform encryption
[16:07] <CrazyKlompjes> ActionParsnip-- install the amarok-kde4
[16:08] <cactux> Hello
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> CrazyKlompjes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84827/
[16:08] <uman> actionparsnip thanks, i hope so .. i mean what if i then try to connect to the vpn from another ubuntu box... should i enable 128 bit encryption?
[16:09] <CrazyKlompjes> oh-well-;(
[16:09] <CrazyKlompjes> o
[16:09] <CrazyKlompjes> ok
[16:09] <CrazyKlompjes> let me get it
[16:10] <CrazyKlompjes> tzd: I don't use bluetooth though, never tried it(even though my laptop has it). It does need to be easier I have to agree---> maybe in Kde 4.3 or 4.4 they will start adding more features to things(to simplify a few things that is)
[16:10] <CrazyKlompjes> KDE 4.1 was making everything stable-
[16:10] <CrazyKlompjes> not sure what KDE 4.2 will bring(hopefully, more apps and such-or stabler apps)
[16:11] <hazzy> Arg, I miss the KDE icon for the Kmenu. I don't like the arrow.
[16:11] <tzd> yeah. I Think a bit more ppl will join the "light" side when things are more simple.
[16:11] <tzd> hmm "bright" side is probably a more suitable word ;P
[16:13] <andrew_> Hello. Please help me with my TV tuner. TVtime starts but seems like it cannot switch channels, just plays at.
[16:14] <CrazyKlompjes> tzd:haha-light on hardware(more than 3.5 or so). But I dont want it to be sooooo simplistic it makes it hard to use(or have fun with it)-
[16:14] <CrazyKlompjes> GNOME for example--is too simplistic
[16:14] <CrazyKlompjes> I feel "dumb" when using it
[16:16] <tzd> CrazyKlompjes: yeah i completely get what you mean :) I think there should be a "hidden" advanced mode so that skilled people can modify as they wish and then the less skilled people can access the basic stuff
[16:17] <CrazyKlompjes> yep-true :) even though I use all the options from the menus and such(details and so). Just love the look of KDE and the ability to split a screen with ctrl-alt-shift-left arrow and such :D
[16:18] <CrazyKlompjes> So
[16:19] <tzd> Hehe that was a new cmd :) Didn't work here though... a kde4 cmd perhaps?  Anyway, as much as i enjoy talking kde/linux i still have to get back and ruin my Saturday with some ITIL studying :P
[16:19] <CrazyKlompjes> tzd--> what are the main features you think--the KDE 4.something---
[16:19] <CrazyKlompjes> oh
[16:19] <CrazyKlompjes> haha
[16:19] <CrazyKlompjes> ok
[16:19] <CrazyKlompjes> good luck then tzd
[16:20] <DawnLight> hey. what's your favourite irc client for intrepid?
[16:20] <hazzy> irssi
[16:20] <runpain2> Hello can some one help me please i am running Kubuntu 8.04 and i have an appliction that keeps starting when i login to my seesion that i dont want to its my web cam (KDETV) i would like my gdesklets to load though
[16:20] <CrazyKlompjes> I use Konversation DawnLight
[16:20] <runpain2> what file do i need to configure
[16:20] <CrazyKlompjes> hmmm...
[16:20] <DawnLight> i'm using irssi now
[16:21] <petra_> Hello :) I have kubuntu 8.04 on a dell 1535 and have no sound. Can someone help?
[16:21] <YAOMTC> I'm watching Crazy Shine Maidens right now - an anime that often involves characters talking over each other. Does anyone know of a video player that handles subtitles well and doesn't overlap them?
[16:21] <YAOMTC> One that can play MKV.
[16:21] <tzd> CrazyKlompjes: thanks, have a nice evening/morning/day ;)
[16:21] <astromme> runpain2: System Settings -> Advanced -> Session Manager -> Applications to be excluded from sessions
[16:21] <DawnLight> petra_: did you open up the mixer and pumped up the pcm?
[16:21] <CrazyKlompjes> YAOMTC: VLC player does it well
[16:22] <Walzmyn> damn I hate windows
[16:22] <runpain2> ok will try that astromme
[16:22] <CrazyKlompjes> petra: go to Systems Settings->autostart
[16:22] <runpain2> thanks BRB
[16:22] <CrazyKlompjes> astromme beat me to it :P
[16:22] <DawnLight> hey... is there a gui for converting vieo formats? a good one?
[16:22] <DawnLight> like .flv to xvid or asf?
[16:22] <astromme> VLC can do it on a single file basis
[16:23] <astromme> For batch, idk
[16:23] <astromme> Open a file in vlc, click file -> Save as/convert
[16:23] <olskolirc> how do I uninstall this kubuntu and start over on intrepid
[16:23] <olskolirc> this is an upgrade
[16:23] <Jones_mello> olá, nao estou conseguindo conectar no AMSN pelo kurumin 8 =(
[16:23] <Jones_mello> alguem... sabe oq pode ser?
[16:23] <DawnLight> sounds good, astromme
[16:23] <hazzy> DawnLight: ffmpeg?
[16:24] <Walzmyn> !es | Jones_mello
[16:24] <astromme> that's not es...
[16:24] <Walzmyn> what was it?
[16:24] <astromme> portugues?
[16:24] <Walzmyn> great, what's the shorthand for portugues?
[16:25] <astromme> !pt
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> !portuguese
[16:25] <hazzy> Too late :P
[16:25] <Jones_mello> olá, nao estou conseguindo conectar no AMSN pelo kurumin 8 =(
[16:25] <Jones_mello> alguem... sabe oq pode ser?
[16:25] <astromme> Err... now that I read it some more, it could be spanish.. /shrug
[16:26] <Walzmyn> well, spanish and portugues are so close, if you don't speak them they'll look real similar
[16:26] <astromme> I do speak some spanish though... and nao estou looks more pt than es...
[16:26] <astromme> !pt | Jones_mello
[16:27] <Jones_mello> #ubuntu-br
[16:27] <YAOMTC> Huh. VLC overlaps the two subtitles, totem doesn't do multiple subtitles at once, kaffeine does something weirder (can't figure out exactly what it thinks it's doing)... but mplayer seems to be the best at handling subtitles in this case.
[16:27] <astromme> so brazil... makes sense
[16:28] <astromme> brasil*
[16:29] <CrazyKlompjes> YAOMTC: I watch anime --.mkv pretty fine in vlc. Guess mplayer is the best after all :(
[16:29] <CrazyKlompjes> Dawnlight: Try downloading Konverter(front-end gui for mencoder...)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> mplayer is awesome
[16:33] <CrazyKlompjes> and kmplayer aint bad at all too ;)
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> gmplayer is better :D:D
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> linux humour at its best
[16:33] <CrazyKlompjes> lol
[16:33] <CrazyKlompjes> too many different types-
[16:33] <CrazyKlompjes> the way of the linux
[16:34] <amerigo> !openoffice
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> choice is good
[16:34] <Pliskin> smplayer is the best mplayer front-end :)
[16:36] <CrazyKlompjes> lol pliskin
[16:36] <CrazyKlompjes> never heard of that one
[16:37] <Pliskin> you should ^^
[16:37] <YAOMTC> openoffice takes up too much space for me
[16:37] <YAOMTC> I use koffice for now until I get an external
[16:37] <CrazyKlompjes> YAOMTC: how big is your drive?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> my mpolayer plays at low res and if I try to bump it up , it crashes
[16:37] <BluesKaj> mplayer
[16:37] <BluesKaj> so i don't bother with it
[16:38] <CrazyKlompjes> have you configured mplayer correctly?
[16:38] <YAOMTC> hundred-something gigs, I'll check
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> YAOMTC: theres lots of office productivity softwares
[16:40] <hazzy> Ugh, for some reason, some applications, when I do as little as click on them, crash
[16:40] <CrazyKlompjes> hazzy: what's the output? (start a program from the terminal/command line and post the result)
[16:40] <YAOMTC> ActionParsnip: KOffice suits my purposes for now. When openoffice 3 is available as a .deb I'll get it, but by then I'll have an external
[16:41] <YAOMTC> (KOffice is quite a bit smaller)
[16:42] <hazzy> CrazyKlompjes: http://pastebin.com/m491b18ec
[16:44] <CrazyKlompjes> hazzy:maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578748
[16:44] <hazzy> Thanks
[16:44] <CrazyKlompjes> similar/same error as yours
[16:44] <CrazyKlompjes> just a sec.-that doesn't have a 100% true solution-but you're not alone-
[16:45] <hazzy> Ok, I'll try after I get back, I have to go right now
[16:49] <olskolirc> what is the name of this kubuntu 4.2 beta that is in my repository so that I can uninstall kubuntu
[16:50] <ryxxed> uh
[16:50] <eagles0513875> olskolirc what you mean
[16:50] <ryxxed> that's not kubuntu 4.2 beta
[16:50] <ryxxed> that's kde 4.2 beta
[16:51] <ryxxed> it's the GUI that kubuntu uses
[16:51] <ryxxed> sup eagles
[16:51] <olskolirc> I insatted the kubuntu 4.2 beta and now I want the old kubuntu back on Intrepid
[16:51] <olskolirc> what is this kubuntu 4.2 beta called in my repository so that I can apt-get remove it
[16:52] <ryxxed> it's not kubuntu 4.2 beta, it's kde 4.2 beta
[16:52] <ryxxed> let me find the link
[16:53] <ryxxed> http://www.kubuntu.org/node/58
[16:54] <ryxxed> you can try, but i'm not sure if this is it, aptitude remove kde-core
[16:54] <ryxxed> remove the repository for the kde 4.2 beta
[16:54] <ryxxed> and aptitude install kde-core
[16:54] <olskolirc> remove the repository first?
[16:54] <ryxxed> yeah
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> kde is the desktop environment, using kwin by default
[16:54] <olskolirc> ok thanks ryxxed
[16:54] <ryxxed> google a bit
[16:55] <ryxxed> make sure that's it
[16:55] <ryxxed> i don't know if it removes kde-office
[16:55] <ryxxed> which is incompatible
[16:56] <keymone> olskolirc kde 4.2 isn't useable atm?
[16:56] <cactux> sorry I've been disconnected
[16:56] <olskolirc> too unstable keymone
[16:56] <cactux> I asked some questions regarding the hp 6830
[16:57] <cactux> but could not see the answers :(
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> cactux: what about the printer?
[16:58] <cactux> ActionParsnip: I have no printer
[16:58] <ryxxed> never install beta stuff on linux
[16:58] <cactux> the hp6830 is a laptop
[16:58] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip how do i open ports in kubuntu
[16:58] <ubuntu__> how can I fix this error when I turn on: grub error 15
[16:59] <Feijo> how can I fix this error when I turn on: grub error 15
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> cactux: the make or model is irrelevant, its the hardware inside that is important
[16:59] <ryxxed> have you tried updating and/or reinstalling grub?
[16:59] <cactux> ActionParsnip: yes
[16:59] <Feijo> not yet, I'm with livecd now
[16:59] <cactux> I have more information:
[16:59] <Feijo> never saw about grub before :)
[16:59] <ryxxed> there's a utility in the live cd
[16:59] <FrauHansen> Hi. I'm on KDE 4.2 Beta 1. My Oxygen-Icons are weird (some wrong, some missing). what is the command for the kde3-icon-settings? i thing there lays the problem
[16:59] <ryxxed> kubuntu right?
[16:59] <Feijo> ryxxed: yes
[16:59] <Feijo> 8.04
[16:59] <ryxxed> go to
[16:59] <cactux> A Kubuntu 8.04 has sound, but if I update it there is no sound anymore
[17:00] <ryxxed> go to system settings
[17:00] <Feijo> ok
[17:00] <cactux> (just an update, not an upgrade)
[17:00] <ryxxed> go to advanced, and there should be a grub editor icon there
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> cactux: wassup with your lappy
[17:00] <keymone> anybody has performance problems with kubuntu 8.10 and nvidia drivers?
[17:00] <ryxxed> GUI for reinstalling grub and updating it
[17:00] <ryxxed> everyone does
[17:01] <Feijo> one more information, last night I repartitioned /
[17:01] <ryxxed> Feijo : found it?
[17:01] <Feijo> I found a Disk and File system
[17:01] <cactux> achille_: if I try Ubuntu 8.10 : I have the wifi, but no sound
[17:01] <cactux> sorry it was for ActionParsnip
[17:01] <ryxxed> update grub
[17:01] <Feijo> apt-get ?
[17:02] <cactux> If I install Kubuntu 8.04 : I have sound but no wifi. And if I update, I lose sound (and do not get wifi)
[17:02] <ryxxed> feijo : no
[17:02] <ryxxed> that should be on the live dc
[17:02] <ryxxed> *cd
[17:02] <ryxxed> i just googled your problem, you need to reinstall grub
[17:02] <Feijo> I will google to, I type grub in shell, it just stay waiting a command
[17:03] <ryxxed> yeah
[17:03] <ryxxed> you need to give it some commands first
[17:03] <ryxxed> because it goes to a command text based install
[17:03] <ryxxed> even though you're in ubuntu
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> cactux: run lspci, it will tell you your sound card
[17:03] <ryxxed> let me give you a guide
[17:03] <ryxxed> feijo : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[17:04] <cactux> ActionParsnip: can't do rigth now, but i will
[17:04] <ryxxed> same thing goes for kubuntu
[17:04] <Feijo> grub-install --recheck /dev/hda ?
[17:04] <ryxxed> read the topic i gave you
[17:04] <Feijo> I just opened
[17:04] <ryxxed> you'll reinstall it in 5 seconds
[17:04] <Feijo> :D
[17:05] <ryxxed> that puts grub on MBR
[17:05] <Feijo> find returned (hd0,5)
[17:05] <Feijo> now root? ok :|
[17:05] <cactux> it seems the kernel shipped with kubuntu 8.04 is too old for the wireless chipset
[17:05] <ryxxed> feijo : uh, wait, so your grub is on a partition?
[17:05] <Feijo> no risk to damage, right?
[17:06] <Feijo> my linux / is a partition, I had windows here before
[17:06] <ryxxed> not really
[17:06] <Feijo> I dont care about windows
[17:06] <ryxxed> it goes to /boot
[17:06] <ryxxed> not /
[17:07] <runpain2> astromme, it did not work
[17:07] <Feijo> so, should I run root (hd0,5) or not?
[17:07] <ryxxed> try it
[17:07] <Feijo> ok
[17:07] <Feijo> the setup (hd0) returned all yes and succeded
[17:07] <runpain2> unless i check the box start with empty session
[17:07] <Feijo> now quit and reboot?
[17:08] <ryxxed> yap
[17:08] <runpain2> and even put it in the applications to be excluded box too
[17:08] <Feijo> ok, thanks a lot for your help.  I hope next time I enter this channel I'm not with livecd ;)
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> cactux: then get a wired conection and fully update
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> cactux: or install intrepid
[17:09] <Feijo> sorry for any english slip, I learned it by myself lol
[17:09] <cactux>  ActionParsnip intrepid ?
[17:09] <ryxxed> it's ok
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | cactux
[17:09] <ryxxed> cactux : 8.10
[17:10] <runpain2> hello some please tell me  how do i stop an application from starting up when i boot up
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> !startup | runpain2
[17:11] <cactux> ActionParsnip: is it poiisible to stay with kde 3.5 while having intrepid? I prefer kde to gnome, but can not stand the 4.1
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> cactux: i think you can install it seperately
[17:11] <stdin> no
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> stdin: you could compile the source, surely
[17:11] <cactux> i googled for that, and found a unofficial site only, not an official one
[17:11] <ryxxed> !autoremove
[17:12] <ryxxed> apt-get autoremove, what does it do?
[17:12] <stdin> ActionParsnip: sure, as long as you install to /opt or something
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ryxxed: uninstalls orphaned deps
[17:12] <cactux> I have the lspic output
[17:12] <cactux> for the audio :
[17:12] <ryxxed> anyway i can remove source code after it's done compiling?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cactux: ok, whats the line for the soundcard say?
[17:12] <ryxxed> or is it automatical?
[17:12] <cactux> intel copr 82801I
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> stdin: so it can be installed ;)
[17:13] <cactux> (ich9 family)
[17:13] <runpain2> ActionParsnip,  cant find 'Save Session' in the K menu
[17:13] <stdin> ActionParsnip: but not easily
[17:13] <SRazi1> Hi, how can I change default font for kchmviewer?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> cactux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=661102
[17:13] <runpain2> brb
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> stdin: oh definately, but my point is it can. You are right though, its a PITA
[17:15] <cactux> ActionParsnip: thx, I am reading
[17:15] <FrauHansen> does this mess look familiar to someone? http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/sc991bno/icons.jpeg
[17:17] <FrauHansen> some are wrong and some are gone ... another icon theme (i.e crystal for kde4) displays the right icons in the right place
[17:18] <FrauHansen> already re-installed oxygen-kde4 but no effect
[17:18] <tsunami> alguien save como conectar un soni ericson con el cable de datos en ubuntu   kubuntu
[17:19] <tsunami> como ago para entrar al canal en español?
[17:19] <mister-tea> !es
[17:20] <ryxxed> hm, let me see
[17:20] <ryxxed> !sr
[17:20] <ryxxed> !rs
[17:20] <mister-tea> (/join ubuntu-es)
[17:20] <Feijo> livecd again :(
[17:20] <ryxxed> what happened?
[17:21] <Feijo> ryxxed: now grub show me all kernel versions, I always load the first one
[17:21] <Feijo> after I wait the 10 secs, or click enter
[17:21] <ryxxed> always?
[17:21] <ryxxed> what's the problem here?
[17:21] <Feijo> it says: file not found
[17:21] <Feijo> error 15
[17:21] <ryxxed> so it's not booting?
[17:21] <Feijo> no, file not found
[17:21] <ryxxed> yeah, it's not booting the OS
[17:22] <Feijo> but how it found my kernel versions?
[17:22] <mister-tea> tUff:
[17:22] <ryxxed> uh, menu.lst
[17:22] <ryxxed> it has them saved there
[17:22] <Feijo> I'm googling
[17:22] <mister-tea> tsunami: comprende?
[17:23] <ryxxed> try update-grub
[17:23] <Feijo> next I would like to know how to clean that menu.lst, it have a lot :)
[17:23] <ryxxed> or just keep google
[17:23] <ryxxed> keep googling
[17:23] <ryxxed> you'll find something
[17:23] <Feijo> it says no GRUB directory found
[17:23] <ryxxed> keep googling
[17:24] <Feijo> found menu.lst
[17:25] <Feijo> I may need grub-install
[17:25] <ryxxed> google your problem
[17:25] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip you there bro
[17:25] <Adola> Sounds like googling is like giving birth :)
[17:25] <ryxxed> i just gave you advice from the top of my head when i had some similar problems
[17:25] <Adola> "Just keep googling"
[17:25] <Feijo> I am
[17:25] <Adola> "C'mon, you can do it"
[17:28] <Feijo> hmmmm, menu.lst point to (hd0,6) I set grub as hd0,5
[17:28] <Feijo> I will grub again to hd0,6
[17:32] <tUff> mister-tea: apologies was afk .. whats up?
[17:33] <mister-tea> bad key hit I didn't mean to bother you
[17:33] <tUff> no worries :)
[17:34] <mister-tea> I was trying to tab up a different nick by hitting caps lock
[17:34] <ryxxed> apt-build is finally finished!
[17:34] <keymone> ryxxed
[17:34] <cactux> q
[17:34] <ryxxed> yes?
[17:35] <keymone> how come apt-build uses O2 instead of O3 in config?
[17:35] <ryxxed> no idea
[17:35] <keymone> i tried to install few packets with apt-build but i see a lot of O2 in logs
[17:35] <ryxxed> it needs oxygen, i guess
[17:36] <ryxxed> dohoho
[17:36] <keymone> ha-ha
[17:36] <keymone> good one
[17:36] <zeltak> hi all
[17:36] <ryxxed> i'm using K8, don't really know
[17:36] <zeltak> does any one have any idea how to search with strigi with kubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2 (beta) i cant for the life of me find a gui for it?
[17:38] <karin> ÇÑ±¹ À¯Àú ÀÖ½À´Ï±î
[17:59] <d_mitry> if i choose console login at the kde login screen, then how can i get back to graphical login?
[18:00] <stdin> d_mitry: Alt-F7
[18:02] <eagles0513875> stdin can i remove alot of the default pkgs that come with kubuntu without breaking my entire install?
[18:02] <stdin> yes
[18:03] <eagles0513875> i dunno how though i have broken installs though trying
[18:03] <stdin> depends what you consider "broken"
[18:03] <eagles0513875> cant boot etc
[18:04] <stdin> then don't remove grub or the running kernel for one :)
[18:04] <stdin> if you don't know what it is, don't remove it
[18:04] <funbitz1> anyone: I'm having problems with nvidia's proprietary driver, but if I deactivate it my resolution goes no higher than 800*600. can I set a higher resolution without activating the accelerated driver?
[18:05] <eagles0513875> stdin i dont
[18:05] <eagles0513875> it happens when removing just plain programs
[18:05] <stdin> that wouldn't stop the system from booting
[18:06] <eagles0513875> i removed certain programs and it has actually wanted to remove everythign else on the install
[18:06] <nyte> hi there
[18:07] <nyte> is this a germen room?
[18:07] <stdin> eagles0513875: yeah, don't remove libc6 :)
[18:07] <stdin> !de | nyte
[18:07] <nyte> ty (=
[18:11] <eagles0513875> im having a super weird issue when tryign to boot right to installer from live cd
[18:11] <eagles0513875> loads the initramfs and thats it
[18:16] <eagles0513875> i cannot install intrepid 64bit when i choose to go right to installer or desktop all it takes me to is an initramfs prompt any ideas
[18:18] <eagles0513875> anyone help me plz :(
[18:19] <ryxxed> gives you a what
[18:19] <eagles0513875> gives me an initramfs prompt and it wont boot to desktop or anything
[18:19] <runpain2__> !start
[18:19] <runpain2__> !startup
[18:20] <runpain2__> !boot
[18:23] <eagles0513875> runpain2 what i find funny this is the first time this has sdone this to me
[18:26] <cactux> ActionParsnip : thankx a lot, now I have sound !!!
[18:27] <d_mitry> stdin: thanks.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> cactux: awesome
[18:27] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip or stdin for some reason im booting of interpid live cd and when i go either to install or to live cd desktop it doesnt work for me it takes me to an initramfs shell
[18:27] <cactux> ActionParsnip, following your link, I started by removing alsa
[18:27] <cactux> then I have sound
[18:28] <cactux> I did not had to re-install it, and tyo configure it
[18:28] <cactux> thanks
[18:29] <cactux> now, do you know how I can enable the wifi? No line of the lspci output contains "wireless" nor "wifi"
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> cactux: is it internal or usb?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: did you md5 check your cd image as well as check the burned cd?
[18:32] <eagles0513875> ya
[18:32] <eagles0513875> i know the iso is good cuz i use it to install on vms
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: check your ram is ok then, or try disabling some hardware in bios
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: you could also try some boot options
[18:33] <eagles0513875> it is cuz i already have kubuntu on here i wanna do a ram install
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | eagles0513875
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: try nodma acpi=off
[18:35] <dems> хуяссе
[18:35] <ryxxed> i downloaded some source code with svn co
[18:35] <ryxxed> so, how do i install it?
[18:35] <ryxxed> as in, what command?
[18:35] <dems> qiut
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> cactux: if its usb, use lsusb
[18:38] <scunizi> Just loaded up the latest kubuntu in vbox.. I gotta say that the changes in kde look great. A couple crashes on install and then a notification about incomplete language install that I ignored.
[18:38] <ryxxed> you should try 4.2 beta
[18:39] <ryxxed> sluggier than a limbless child
[18:40] <nashk> Hi, just install kde 4. It seems everytime I boot I have to connect to my wireless. Anyway to make connect right away?
[18:43] <nashk> how can I find out what fglrx version I"m suing? I'm doing fglrxinfo and it's showing that info.
[18:46] <walter_> holaaaa
[18:46] <walter_> como estann
[18:46] <walter_> ?
[18:47] <scunizi> ryxxed, do I do that through adept?
[18:47] <ryxxed> uh, you have to add the experimental repository for kubuntu
[18:48] <scunizi> ah.. ok.. do you think the current version (not beta) is ready for a production environment or does it crash randomly?
[18:48] <nyte> someone know how i connect my networkstoreage
[18:48] <nyte> ?
[18:51] <tdn> How can I rename every file in a folder, so that each file name becomes $isodate-$oldfilename, where $isodate is the last modification date for the file and $oldfilename is the file's original name;  such that a file called foo.txt will be called 2008-06-23-foo.txt, if it was last modified on 23rd of june 2008.
[18:52] <jussi01> tdn: I think krename can do that
[18:52] <jussi01> !info krename
[18:53] <tdn> jussi01, I have tried using krename, but it is not easy to use. I cannot figure out exactly how it works...
[18:53] <jramskov> Hrm...does Kopete @ KDE4 not include MSN support?
[18:53] <cuznt> amsn its called
[18:53] <jussi01> jramskov: not at the moment, its broken iirc
[18:53] <cuznt> !krename | tdn
[18:54] <jramskov> k
[18:54] <jramskov> sad
[18:57] <ryxxed> how can i stop a svn checkout
[18:57] <psicoloko> Algum brazuca na área?
[18:58] <ryxxed> !br
[19:01] <olskolirc> how do I reinstall kubuntu please
[19:01] <leleobhz> im trying to make amarok 2.0 works with oss, but phonon dont recognize my board
[19:01] <leleobhz> how can i configure my oss devices in phonon?
[19:02] <psicoloko> tks
[19:02] <psicoloko> !br
[19:03]  * doodlewolfdude is away: http://www.twitter.com/doodlewolfdude
[19:08] <dthacker> Hi, I've installed EasyCam2 to try in find drivers for my webcam, but the programs prompts are in french.  Is there a french speaker in the channel that could help me out?
[19:09] <ryxxed> !fr
[19:10] <dthacker> Ok, let's try again.  I need to work in English, so I need to stay in this channel, but I need the help of someone who speaks french.
[19:11] <ryxxed> i believe that most of the people there are educated enough to speak proper english
[19:12] <dthacker> but will they welcome an english discussion in their channel?
[19:14] <ryxxed> try it
[19:16] <dthacker> ryxxed: they invited me to leave
[19:17] <ryxxed> oh well
[19:18] <sourcemaker> how can I convert a FLV movie file to OGG?
[19:24] <gaelan> got a question about installing: when i installed i put everything on one partition, i'd like to reinstall now anyway and i was wondering if i could call this partition the /home... then just delete everything else once i've reinstalled
[19:24] <gaelan> is that a bad idea?
[19:24] <cuznt> my synaptic is stuck
[19:25] <cuznt> nope
[19:25] <cuznt> sorry it is not....
[19:25] <dwidmann> gaelan: well, if you've got space elsewhere, yeah, you could probably do that
[19:27] <dwidmann> gaelan: you'd also have to move all the home directories up a level on that partition though
[19:27] <gaelan> yeah, since installing i've shrunk my windows partition, so i have space for 2 partitions now
[19:28] <gaelan> should i do all that after i've installed the new version?
[19:28] <faichele> Short question: I have a little problem with the "Insert" key being configured to launch ksnapshot under KDE 3.5.
[19:28] <faichele> Is there a way to turn that off somewhere in the control center?
[19:28] <dwidmann> gaelan: I'd say before
[19:28] <dwidmann> faichele: yeah
[19:28] <gaelan> ok, great, i'll back everything up and give it a try, thanks for the help!
[19:29] <faichele> OK, where is that "somewhere"?
[19:29] <dwidmann> faichele: ummm, in control center go to regional & ... -> keyboard shortcuts
[19:30] <dwidmann> faichele: probably under command shortcuts
[19:30] <faichele> OK, found it, thanks.
[19:30] <faichele> Was just far down the shortcuts list; thanks!
[19:38] <ShaunR> how do i start an ssh server for localhost?
[19:39] <ShaunR> i could ssh to a different user at localhost in hardy, but now that i have 8.10 i cannot do it
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:44] <psicoloko> !br
[19:44] <psicoloko> #kubuntu-br
[19:45] <timecist> English M-Fer! Do you speak it?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> timecist: not as many as speak mandarin
[19:46] <guest_> Hi everyone, Is there a way to increase the drive capacity of one OS once kubuntu and xp have already been installed?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> guest_: you can resize partitions using gparted in live cd, make sure you backup your data before starting
[19:49] <guest_> ActionParsnip: thanks much
[19:49] <ryxxed> gparted, definatel
[19:49] <ryxxed> if you can, try not to move any files, it might take some time
[19:49] <ryxxed> otherwise, i was done in 5 seconds
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> guest_: yuo can aviod this in the future by planning partitions when you first establish the disk
[19:51] <guest_> ActionParsnip: yes I know, I was just new to kubuntu and didn't know if I'd get accustomed to it so didn't give it much room
[19:51] <ShaunR> nvm
[20:00] <cactux> ActionParsnip, sorry, I was away. The wifi is built in, but I don't know the hardware.
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> cactux: if its not showing up in lspci then its probably turned off. is there a button to turn it on?
[20:01] <cactux> ActionParsnip, yes, and it is already shining blue
[20:02] <cactux> it seems to be on USB
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> cactux: what model laptop is it again?
[20:02] <cactux> dmesg outputs something when I press the wifi on/off switch
[20:02] <cactux> it is a hp6830
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> ahh, then use the identifier you get and websearch
[20:03] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip i need help with apt-build world command
[20:03] <cactux> it seems to be 03f0:171d
[20:03] <cactux> I thought it was bluetooth only
[20:03] <cactux> but no, wifi toot
[20:03] <cactux> too*
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> cactux: http://www.delaere.nl/blog/2008/hp-6830-with-ubuntu-linux-804-wireless-not-working-working/
[20:04] <cactux> ActionParsnip, you are fast! wow!
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> cactux: i'm black belt google-fu and 2nd dan ask.com-chi
[20:05] <cactux> ActionParsnip, :)
[20:07] <ryxxed> i'm a level 80 neckbeard
[20:07] <ryxxed> not even chuck norris can punch all the way through
[20:08] <cactux> ActionParsnip, according to a link found on the last link, I should get compat-wireless. There is a specific tar ball for kernels below 2.6.26 (I have 2.6.24), but it gives a 404.
[20:08] <cactux> Can I upgrade the kernel?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> cactux: then try find the tar yourself, the link is clearly bad
[20:08] <cactux> without upgrading the complete distro
[20:09] <ryxxed> is beryl open source?
[20:09] <bazhang> ryxxed, no more beryl
[20:09] <bazhang> ryxxed, its compiz-fusion now
[20:09] <ryxxed> really?
[20:10] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that happened last year I think
[20:11] <ryxxed> so, does it have a source code?
[20:12] <ryxxed> in some sort of a repository?
[20:12] <josetek> buenas tardes
[20:12] <eagles0513875> !es | johnflux_
[20:12] <eagles0513875> johnflux_ miss type bro
[20:12] <eagles0513875> !es | josetek
[20:16] <Walzmyn> Is there a problem with getting kontact_kde4 to download a calendar from a remote server?
[20:16] <mschiff> Anybody tried kaffeine from intrepid-backports and having xine sound problems, too?
[20:17] <lechat> #ubuntu-fr
[20:18] <ryxxed> anyone know of a repository with compiz-fusion source code on it?
[20:18] <ryxxed> latest stable version
[20:19] <JontheEchidna> just install the compiz package
[20:19] <HappySmileMan> apt-get source can get source of the version in Ubuntu repoes I think
[20:20] <Lupus-SLE> Evening folk... I'm on Intrepid and bear questions about my webcam. It's a Trust WB-1400T and while I'm aware they're not supported by the manufacture (I wasn't at the time, and in fairness, it was £10). It has worked in the past but I remember it was plugged in when i installed Hardy and not when I installed Intrepid. When I plug it in, aMSN see's it as a device though it won't stream any video and I'm presented
[20:20] <Lupus-SLE> with black... soo.. how about that?
[20:21] <bill> can ayone help with an upgrade intrepid .. getting this error with apt > http://nopaste.com/p/ajJPFr1Ic
[20:21] <cactux> ActionParsnip, I am following the instructions to build and use compat-wireless. I could build it, no error. Then when trying to load it, I get one warning and one fatal error:
[20:21] <Lupus-SLE> lsusb picks it up as: Bus 005 Device 003: ID 093a:2468 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Cammaestro 2.5DU/X-EYE/Orite SC-120/ICGear TravelCam/Easy Snap Snake Eye WebCam
[20:21] <ryxxed> no source for compiz in the ubuntu source repo
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> cactux: whats the error?
[20:21] <cactux> the fatal error is: FATAL: Error inserting iwl4965, Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[20:22] <faichele> And what does the dmesg command say?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> cactux: what does dmesg | tail say?
[20:23] <cactux> ActionParsnip, many unknown symbol
[20:23] <cactux> I can not past everything here
[20:24] <faichele> Are you certain the module you loaded can handle your cam?
[20:27] <Lokiase> hello, can someone tell me how I can update my software in ubuntu. I have vlc 0.8 and I need 0.9...
[20:27] <Lokiase> *in kubuntu
[20:29] <cactux> ActionParsnip, you can see the dmesg there: http://dl.free.fr/pNReGXb8f
[20:30] <faichele> Is your camera listed here? http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[20:32] <d_mitry> blank screen after livecd kubuntu loads. thoughts?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> cactux: looks like they were loaded ok
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: did you md5 check the cd and verify the burned cd once burned?
[20:33] <Lokiase> [21:27] <Lokiase> hello, can someone tell me how I can update my software in kubuntu. I have vlc 0.8 and I need 0.9...
[20:33] <cactux> ActionParsnip, I may I have forgotten to load the firmware
[20:33] <cactux> I am reading a doc on that step
[20:33] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: cd works on my other computer. it was shipped anyway.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: id run the cd checker at thefirst boot screen on the cd
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: is it the same if you restart the x server
[20:34] <bill> anyone help .. am going crazy .. keep getting error >> trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/launchpad.png', which is also in package kdelibs-data >> http://nopaste.com/p/ai4kEM5Hqb
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: you could try some boot options
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | d_mitry
[20:35] <ryxxed> lokiase : if it's not in the repository you have to update manually
[20:36] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: sure, i'll run the checker. what's the shortcut to restart the x server?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: ctrl + alt + backspace
[20:38] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: this is kubuntu 8.10, btw. could memory (or lack of -- according to memtest, 224 MB) be a problem?
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> possibly, you can check that is ok as well using the live cd]
[20:41] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: perhaps it's also worth mentioning that kubuntu 6.10 installed fine.
[20:42] <ryxxed> uh, i was just updating my kubuntu
[20:42] <ryxxed> and i got the menu.lst got updated but the local version was modified
[20:42] <ryxxed> is doing a 3way merge safe?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: maybe the disk is bad then
[20:46] <ImLiz> Question about Hardy Heron install,  I have kubuntu and xp, will the installaton give me the option to override the kubuntu portion?
[20:46] <Tupac_shakur> sup hommies
[20:47] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: impossible. i've happily used it on my other machine a bunch of times (last time being today). ctrl + alt + backspace has no effect. i doubt the memory is bad (that wasn't my question), i'm wondering whether it'd install with there being only 224 mb.
[20:48] <d_mitry> also, no difference with graphics only mode turned on.
[20:50] <d_mitry> graphics only? safe graphics mode, i mean.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: can you do a trext based install with that disk?
[20:51] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: if safe graphics mode is synonymous to text only, then yes, i have that option. otherwise, no.
[20:51] <ImLiz> Also have a question about vmware, does that function as it's suppose to and do all windows program really work? If anyone knows, thanks.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: try some boot options for the live boot
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | d_mitry
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: try acpi=off nodma
[20:54] <d_mitry> ok. thanks.
[21:03] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: that has yielded some interesting results. the last message is: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,1)" and my caps and scroll lock lights are flashing.
[21:06] <d_mitry> which is due to me getting rid of some boot options. maybe i should try again then. :P
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> d_mitry: wow crazy
[21:11] <d_mitry> ActionParsnip: those options made no difference. i'm gonna read up on various options now.
[21:13] <sorset> hello, i have a problem with .jar files , they known as zip file in kubuntu 8.10 an open by ark while i have changed to open by java
[21:13] <sorset> icon of jar files are just like zip!
[21:15] <ryxxed> sorset : they are kind of an archive
[21:15] <ryxxed> just like .xpi for firefox addons
[21:17] <sorset> ryxxed: i didnt have this problem in حrevious versions!!
[21:17] <sorset> *previous
[21:18] <ryxxed> that's not really a problem
[21:18] <ryxxed> actually, what is the problem
[21:18] <ryxxed> are you trying to run it as a java script?
[21:18] <HappySmileMan> He wants to click a JAR file and have it run directly I think
[21:18] <ryxxed> open with?
[21:18] <HappySmileMan> The problem is that he can't, when he clicks it it extracts it
[21:18] <sorset> ryxxed: no , java -jar
[21:19] <sorset> HappySmileMan: exactly
[21:19] <ryxxed> i'm gonna repeat myself : open with>?
[21:19] <sorset> ryxxed: what you mean? :D
[21:20] <sorset> left click!
[21:20] <ryxxed> well, uh, have you tried left clicking
[21:23] <sorset> ryxxed: i know, it cant be a problem
[21:23] <sorset> ryxxed: but i want when i click on zip file, it open by ark and jar open bye java
[21:24] <sorset> now both are opening by same program
[21:25] <ryxxed> both?
[21:27] <sorset> yes!
[21:29] <sorset> kubuntu cannot putting different between zip and jar
[21:38] <d_mitry> is it possible to upgrade kubuntu from cd?
[21:41] <sorset> d_mitry: yes, but you should have dvd or alternative cd
[21:43] <d_mitry> sorset: why?
[21:43] <vitomax> how do you change themes?
[21:44] <peabody> where do I find documentation for Dragon player?
[21:44] <Elijah_Frost> Good evening gentlemen. I've just installed Firestarter and configured it to guard ethernet interface wich is connected to adsl modem. However, a check made in <Shields Up> serivce told that my machine is defenseless ("Without your knowledge or explicit permission, the Windows networking technology which connects your computer to the Internet may be offering some or all of your computer's data to the entire world at this very moment!"). What am I doi
[21:44] <sorset> d_mitry: :D
[21:44] <peabody> how do I find out the command string behind a menu item?
[21:45] <d_mitry> sorset: i see. :P
[21:45] <sorset> d_mitry: desktop هس United
[21:45] <sorset> *is
[21:45] <d_mitry> eh?
[21:45] <sorset> but in upgrading kubuntu installs new packages
[21:45] <sorset> or upgrade them
[21:46] <d_mitry> ok.
[21:46] <sorset> and just thish packs are found in alternate
[21:47] <d_mitry> but what alternative cd/dvd will this be?
[21:47] <peabody> can anyone answer a simple question?
[21:47] <d_mitry> peabody: simple questions may be unanswerable! ;)
[21:47] <peabody> awesome
[21:48] <sorset> d_mitry: you can download alternate cd or dvd from ubuntu servers
[21:48] <peabody> so I installed nzb, and it won't run without a path to my media player
[21:48] <sorset> there is just one alternate!
[21:48] <sorset> or DVD
[21:48] <sorset> (for each architecture)
[21:49] <d_mitry> ok. thanks.
[21:49] <sorset> x86 or x64
[21:49] <d_mitry> what if i have internet access -- will i need an alternate cd then?
[21:50] <sorset> no, you can upgrade whit adept manager
[21:50] <sorset> but in low speed
[21:50] <d_mitry> alright.
[21:50] <peabody> /j #nzb
[21:50] <jennifer> hi
[21:51] <jennifer> i need help again with my sprint card
[21:52] <jennifer> can anyone plez help me?
[21:53] <d_mitry> jennifer: ask your question.
[21:53] <jennifer> ok, i have Sprint Mobile Broadband connection card
[21:53] <jennifer> and i did as some one on here suggested by going to KPPP and setting it up
[21:53] <nu__> hi
[21:54] <jennifer> it works but every 2 mintues; it kicks me off and goes back in
[21:54] <jennifer> i've tried everything
[21:56] <sorset> jennifer: im not sure, but you can use WICD
[21:56] <jennifer> what is that
[21:56] <sorset> jennifer: i heared that there is a bug in knetworkmanager
[21:57] <sorset> jennifer: a network manager
[21:57] <sorset> !
[21:57] <jennifer> i just need to know how the heck to set it up
[21:57] <jennifer> or fix it
[21:57] <jennifer> or else i am just going to switch back to XP
[21:57] <sorset> jennifer: you cant fix it
[21:57] <jennifer> how
[21:58] <sorset> cant!
[21:58] <sorset> jennifer: plz see http://wicd.sourceforge.net/download.php
[21:58] <sorset> jennifer: linux is alternate
[21:59] <jennifer> i just need to know a way to use my card on linux
[21:59] <jennifer> because i am getting fed up
[21:59] <sorset> jennifer: it it wireless network?
[21:59] <sorset> i said im not sure
[21:59] <sorset> and heared there is a bug i knetwork with wirelwss
[22:00] <sorset> *in
[22:01] <jennifer> no
[22:01] <jennifer> its a sprint mobile broad band connection card
[22:01] <jennifer> thanks
[22:01] <jennifer> ok does anyone in here know how to help me fix this problem?
[22:01] <jennifer> anyone else*
[22:01] <jennifer> i've tried adjusting the speed; everything
[22:03] <HighHo> jennifer:  is the card made by "sprint"?
[22:04] <jennifer> yes
[22:04] <bipolar> jennifer: I had an issue like that. there was a pppd paramiter I needed to add. let me see if I can find it.
[22:04] <jennifer> It's a sprint pcs connection card
[22:04] <jennifer> Merlin S620
[22:04] <d_mitry> is it possible to upgrade from 6.06 to 8.10?
[22:05] <genii-around> d_mitry: Not directly. but you can go from 6.06 to 8.04
[22:06] <bipolar> jennifer: take look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-434097.html all the way at the bottom.
[22:07] <jennifer> okay
[22:07] <bipolar> jennifer: that solved the problem for him, and he has the exact same card and problem as you.
[22:07] <jennifer> the very very bottom?
[22:07] <jennifer> thats it
[22:07] <bipolar> jennifer: the very last one, written by 'himikeb'
[22:07] <jennifer> whats sudo?
[22:07] <bipolar> sudo runs whatever you tell it as the root user
[22:08] <jennifer> ok can u walk me through it cause i am a noob with linux
[22:08] <bipolar> root is like the Administrator user in windows.
[22:08] <bipolar> jennifer: try it this way...
[22:08] <bipolar> right click on the desktop and select 'Run"
[22:09] <jennifer> run command
[22:09] <bipolar> in the box type "kdesu kate /etc/ppp/options"
[22:09] <bipolar> without the quotes...
[22:09] <d_mitry> genii-around: is that possible with just the 8.04 cd?
[22:09] <bipolar> it will ask for your password.
[22:10] <bipolar> then open the file with kate, which is like Notepad on steroids
[22:10] <bipolar> find that line, "lcp-echo-failure 4", and put a "#" in front of it. then save the file and close kate.
[22:10] <jennifer> hang on
[22:11] <bipolar> jennifer: its on line 232 on my system
[22:12] <jennifer> all i have is line 1 col: 1
[22:12] <bipolar> close what you have
[22:12] <jennifer> nvm
[22:12] <jennifer> i see it
[22:12] <bipolar> ok
[22:13] <jennifer> lol im slow
[22:13] <bipolar> np
[22:13] <jennifer> brb
[22:14] <jennifer> bck
[22:14] <bipolar> jennifer: once that line is changed, and you've saved the file, you should be ok
[22:15] <jennifer> wat do i change it 2
[22:16] <bipolar> just put a "#" in front of it.
[22:16] <bipolar> that will make the program that reads it ignore that line
[22:17] <jennifer> ah
[22:17] <bipolar> so instead of the line being "lcp-echo-failure 4" it will be "#lcp-echo-failure 4"
[22:17] <jennifer> ok i saved it
[22:17] <bipolar> Ok. try using the card again.
[22:18] <jennifer> ok
[22:18] <jennifer> ty
[22:18] <bipolar> np
[22:18] <jennifer> i have another ?
[22:18] <charlie_> the chanel kubuntu in spanish?
[22:18] <jennifer> how do i hook up a printer
[22:18] <bipolar> jennifer: what kind?
[22:18] <jennifer> that is a USB hook up
[22:19] <bipolar> usualy just plug it in, then go to System Settings, Printers.
[22:19] <jennifer> i did that and when i go to print
[22:19] <jennifer> the same error pops up
[22:20] <jennifer> unable to print
[22:20] <bipolar> did you add the printer to your system?
[22:20] <jennifer> i checked my cable and it's fine
[22:20] <belze> hi every body
[22:20] <charlie_> mm, alguien sabe cual esel canal kubuntu en español?
[22:20] <jennifer> yeah
[22:20] <belze> i had a question
[22:20] <belze> sorry for my english
[22:20] <bipolar> jennifer: whats the make and model of your printer?
[22:21] <jennifer> Dell 968
[22:21] <jennifer> brb
[22:21] <Idzme> i have a question about kmail: I restored my old .kmail folder to a fresh kubuntu 8.10 install
[22:21] <belze> I only want to know why we had to tap twice for a ^ ?
[22:21] <Idzme> but when i click on my mails in my personal folders, the email disappewars
[22:21] <Idzme> and the subject and sender are called unknown
[22:22] <Idzme> anyone ??
[22:23] <bipolar> jennifer: A quick search tells me that the Dell 968 Printer is incompatable. It's a rebranded lexmark, and lexmark printers in general are not linux friendly.
[22:23] <jennifer> great
[22:23] <belze> I only want to know why we had to tap twice for a ^ ?
[22:23] <bipolar> jennifer: sorry. wish I had better news about that.
[22:24] <jennifer> is there a way around that
[22:24] <belze> anyone please ?
[22:24] <bipolar> jennifer: just about every other manufacture supports linux...
[22:24] <jennifer> well i got my net back
[22:24] <jennifer> lol but my printer
[22:25] <bipolar> jennifer: not really. Lexmark doesn't release drivers, and they don't release specs so drivers can be written.
[22:25] <bipolar> they are kindof bastards that way
[22:25] <jennifer> well i can get a new printer lol
[22:25] <bipolar> I recomend HP
[22:25] <bipolar> I've never had an HP not work. very good linux support.
[22:26] <bipolar> if you want to double check, just google "linux <printer model"
[22:26] <bipolar> you'll find other linux users using that model printer and their experiance.
[22:26] <Dragonath> my system just crashed, the keyboard lights started blinking and sound froze - how do I find out what went wrong?
[22:27] <belze> I only want to know why we had to tap twice for a ^ ?
[22:27] <belze> anyone please ?
[22:27] <jennifer> -cries-
[22:27] <jennifer> lol
[22:27] <bipolar> belze: if no one answers, they don't know.
[22:27] <jennifer> ty again for the help bi
[22:27] <belze> ok i think that it was my english that you don't understand xD
[22:27] <Bou> belze: how would you write this: ê ?
[22:27] <bipolar> jennifer: no problem... send me some internet dollors. :)
[22:27] <bipolar> lol
[22:28] <jennifer> yeah
[22:28] <belze> no I only want to know why we had to tap twice on the keyboard for only one ^ ?
[22:28] <Bou> :)
[22:28] <Bou> i understand,
[22:28] <Bou> where are you from?
[22:28] <bipolar> ^ is Shift+6 for me. :P
[22:28] <Bou> belze are you French?
[22:29] <belze> how do you know that ? xD
[22:29] <Bou> because i am,
[22:29] <Bou> and almost only French use "^"
[22:29] <Bou>  :)
[22:29] <belze> oh parlons francais alors =)
[22:29] <Bou> private
[22:30] <bipolar> jennifer: heres a good page to look for compatable printers: http://www.openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[22:38] <d_mitry> argh, how to upgrade kubuntu from 6.06 to 8.04?
[22:39] <ryxxed> download iso, open tray, burn cd, reboot
[22:39] <d_mitry> ryxxed: oh, i meant via internet.
[22:40] <ryxxed> uh, nope
[22:40] <d_mitry> eh?
[22:40] <ryxxed> not the same thing as downloading updates
[22:41] <bipolar> d_mitry: thats too far of a jump to upgrade. you'll need to reinstall.
[22:41] <ryxxed> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading-8.04
[22:41] <scunizi> jennifer, you still around?
[22:42] <d_mitry> bipolar: not according to a few sources.
[22:42] <jennifer> posting on this site
[22:42] <ryxxed> actually, he can do it
[22:42] <jennifer> sorry lol
[22:42] <jennifer> hey does anyone in here watch Fringe?
[22:42] <bipolar> you're right! the instructions say it can be done.
[22:42] <ryxxed> d_mitry : http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading-8.04
[22:42] <bipolar> Good luck! :)
[22:42] <d_mitry> ryxxed: reading.
[22:42] <d_mitry> danke.
[22:43] <ryxxed> didn't sound realistic, but wow, it can be done
[22:43] <scunizi> jennifer, couple of things.. the printer site is a couple years out of date.. you might look on Dell's site for linux drivers and if they are not there then check out the Lexmark print drivers.. some of Dell's printers mirror Lexmark
[22:43] <ryxxed> that's gonna be one hell of an upgrade
[22:43] <d_mitry> if i were using gnome, then update-manager could do it very easily (apparently).
[22:43] <ryxxed> use adept manager?
[22:43] <d_mitry> that doesn't give me an option to upgrade at all. :P
[22:44] <ryxxed> did you enable the channel
[22:44] <bipolar> d_mitry: you could install the gnome update manager
[22:44] <ryxxed> that the instructions say
[22:44] <ryxxed> dapper-updates?
[22:45] <d_mitry> ryxxed: haven't read the instructions yet. i have it enabled, though.
[22:45] <d_mitry> bipolar: could you help me with that?
[22:45] <ryxxed> uh
[22:45] <ryxxed> it's just apt-get install gnome something
[22:46] <d_mitry> if it's gonna come with a couple of hundred megabytes of other stuff, then i'll pass. :P
[22:46] <ryxxed> not really
[22:46] <ryxxed> but i don't think you need it
[22:47] <d_mitry> k, i'm gonna follow these instructions.
[22:48] <scunizi> d_mitry, the easiest way if you have room is to create a separate partition large enough for your /home and move all your data there.. then all you have to do in reinstall the entire system tagging the newly created /home as /home but not formatting it.
[22:48] <d_mitry> i thought they weren't gonna involve update-manager. i guess i'll try to get that then.
[22:49] <d_mitry> scunizi: i can't install 8.10 (or 8.04) from the cd. that's why i'm trying to upgrade instead.
[22:49] <ryxxed> i found it
[22:49] <ryxxed> this is what you're gonna do
[22:49] <scunizi> d_mitry, ah.. I missed why that wasn't possible.. enlighten me
[22:49] <ryxxed> sudo aptitude install update-manage-core
[22:49] <ryxxed> after it's done with installing dependencies and the update manage
[22:49] <ryxxed> do-version-upgrade in terminal
[22:50] <ryxxed> *version ==> upgrade
[22:50] <d_mitry> scunizi: black screen after choosing to install (or try kubuntu with no changes) at boot menu of live cd. same with safe graphics mode.
[22:51] <ryxxed> d_mitry : did it work?
[22:51] <d_mitry> ryxxed: two secs.
[22:52] <scunizi> d_mitry, just wondering if you removed "quiet splash" from the kernel line on boot so you could see the errors?
[22:53] <d_mitry> ryxxed: package couldn't be found.
[22:53] <ryxxed> ah crap
[22:53] <d_mitry> scunizi: sadly, i didn't. i could try doing so now.
[22:53] <ryxxed> it's update-manager-core
[22:53] <ryxxed> not manage
[22:53] <ryxxed> i suck at spelling
[22:53] <ryxxed> *typing
[22:53] <d_mitry> yeah, i typed manager. :P
[22:53] <d_mitry> i didn't notice that you said manage.
[22:54] <ryxxed> hm
[22:54] <ryxxed> did you enable all of the software sources?
[22:54] <d_mitry> negative. i'm gonna go do that now somewhere.
[22:54] <scunizi> d_mitry, upgrading the manual way from 6.06 to 8.04 can be problemmatic.. there's also safe graphics mode boot.. and the one that I turn to most of the time is the Alternate CD.
[22:58] <d_mitry> scunizi: ok. i might do it from the cd then.
[22:58] <domenico> !list
[22:59] <d_mitry> ryxxed: and done. what did you mean by *version ==> upgrade?
[23:00] <ryxxed> instead of version
[23:00] <ryxxed> put upgrade
[23:00] <d_mitry> do-upgrade-upgrade?
[23:00] <ryxxed> do-release-upgrade
[23:01] <ryxxed> why is kde so bloaty with firefox, anyway to straighten that out?
[23:01] <d_mitry> doing.
[23:01] <domenico> irc://irc.darksin.net/Blusky
[23:01] <d_mitry> yeah, firefox doesn't look good at all with kde 4.
[23:01] <d_mitry> 1
[23:02] <ryxxed> and my systray icons tend to white out all the time
[23:03] <ryxxed> i'm thinking of installing ubuntu
[23:03] <ryxxed> over kubuntu
[23:04] <Tm_T> ryxxed: bloated?
[23:04] <scunizi> ryxxed, you can do that without loosing kde.. yet.. just sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop.. then change sessions on boot.. if you want to keep it and uninstall kde, google "pure gnome" and you'll have a  way to get rid of the kde dependancies.
[23:05] <ryxxed> hm
[23:05] <ryxxed> tm_t : well, honestly, i feel gnomeis somehow more stable and faster than kde
[23:05] <ryxxed> and i get these weird graphical bugs with kde
[23:05] <Tm_T> ryxxed: hmm, interesting, feel (:)
[23:06] <ryxxed> well, isn't it?
[23:06] <Tm_T> ryxxed: not here atleast
[23:07] <Tm_T> ryxxed: I don't find my KDE bloated nor slow
[23:07] <ryxxed> is there any hope for 4.2?
[23:07] <scunizi> ryxxed, you're graphical oddities might be due to the graphics driver / card combo.
[23:07] <ryxxed> using the latest nvidia driver
[23:07] <ryxxed> with 7600gs
[23:07] <Guiri> I run the 4.2 beta on a radeon 9000 just fine with compositing
[23:07] <ryxxed> it was even worse before i installed them
[23:08] <Guiri> Anyone tried Slax?
[23:08] <Tm_T> some yes
[23:09] <giovanni> hallo
[23:09] <Guiri> With a bit of tweaking to the kernel and disabling services I got Kubuntu to boot just as fast on my oldl system
[23:09] <Guiri> I was impressed
[23:10] <ryxxed> uh, you got your pc to boot as fast as the old one?
[23:10] <d_mitry> hah
[23:11] <Guiri> old system meaning partition with slax installed
[23:11] <bipolar> ryxxed: I got rid of the kde4 graphical glitches by installing the nvidia driver from jaunty
[23:11] <bipolar> ryxxed: that driver should show up in backports someday.
[23:11] <ryxxed> guiri : hah
[23:11] <ryxxed> that's not bad
[23:11] <ryxxed> bipolar : hope it will
[23:12] <bipolar> ryxxed: it's not hard to install. just download and install with dpkg.
[23:12] <bipolar> doesn't break anything else
[23:12] <ryxxed> which one?
[23:13] <bipolar> nvidia-glx-180
[23:13] <ryxxed> i got 180.84 on windows
[23:13] <bipolar> and nvidia-180-kernel-source
[23:13] <scunizi> ryxxed, are you using 177 173 or 180?
[23:13] <ryxxed> scunizi : 177
[23:13] <bipolar> we really need it in backports.
[23:13] <bipolar> solves a lot of issues
[23:13] <Tm_T> !wish | bipolar
[23:13] <ryxxed> well, is it live?
[23:13] <scunizi> ryxxed, that's part of you problem.. drop to 173 and you'll notice a speed increase or go to 180..
[23:14] <Tm_T> bah
[23:14] <ryxxed> i'm gonna try 180
[23:14] <scunizi> ryxxed, if you don't do it right it will leave you with no X
[23:14] <ryxxed> as soon as wine's done building
[23:14] <ryxxed> oh
[23:14] <ryxxed> well, that'd be bad
[23:14] <bipolar> I didn't have any issues installing it.
[23:15] <bipolar> just dpkg -i 'ed the two packages and rebooted.
[23:15] <scunizi> ryxxed, you have to disable the current nvidia driver then uninstall all nvidia stuff from aptitude.. then you can install the new one but only from terminal after stopping kdm
[23:15] <scunizi> ryxxed, easier to try 173 first
[23:15] <bipolar> huh? I didn't do any of that.
[23:15] <ryxxed> yeah, i guess i'll downgrade
[23:16] <scunizi> bipolar, for 180?
[23:16] <bipolar> yeah
[23:16] <ryxxed> how do i downgrade?
[23:16] <bipolar> I downloaded the two pacakages, then used dpkg -i from konsole to install them.
[23:16] <scunizi> ryxxed, restricted drivers manager.. sometimes known as Hardware drivers..
[23:16] <ryxxed> right...
[23:16] <ryxxed> i'm not thinking clearly
[23:16] <ryxxed> it's midnight
[23:17] <scunizi> 3pm here but I got 4 hrs last night.. arg..
[23:17] <Flashtek> q: how do I graphically add a printer  ?
[23:18] <ryxxed> graphically?
[23:18] <scunizi> Flashtek, you could go right to cups if you want.. in a browser go to http://localhost:631
[23:18] <Flashtek> scunizi: there has to be another way right ?
[23:18] <ryxxed> scunizi : damn you, i was thinking of a clever pun
[23:19] <Flashtek> how, without the use of a web browser, do you add a printer ?
[23:19] <scunizi> Flashtek, in kde.. aaahh. is there a printer appelate in settings?
[23:19] <Flashtek> scunizi: noop
[23:20] <scunizi> Flashtek, hang on let me check my VM of Kubuntu
[23:21] <scunizi> booting it now
[23:21] <Guiri> Damn. Shipit doesn't do Xubuntu. I was gonna mail my parents a cd.
[23:23] <d_mitry> 709 mb have nearly been downloaded.
[23:23] <ryxxed> already!?
[23:23] <d_mitry> yep. average speed was about 785 kB/s.
[23:24] <ryxxed> i'm lucky if i get 10 times less than you
[23:24] <scunizi> Flashtek, Apptlications>system>printing
[23:24] <d_mitry> damn
[23:25] <scunizi> ryxxed, bittorentr
[23:25] <scunizi> *bittorent
[23:25] <Flashtek> scunizi: thanks
[23:25] <ryxxed> uh, my internet is 768 kbps
[23:25] <ryxxed> i don't think bittorrent really helps
[23:25] <ryxxed> especially with 64kbps upload ;_;
[23:26] <vbgunz> anyone know how to improve resizing on an old FX5600?
[23:26] <ryxxed> buy a new graphics card
[23:26] <vbgunz> resizing performance is the only thing that makes dealing with windows look choppy :/
[23:26] <scunizi> ryxxed, kbps is different from kB/s  one is kilobytes and one is kilobits.. which is which I always get confused.
[23:27] <ryxxed> b = bytes
[23:27] <ryxxed> i mean
[23:27] <ryxxed> b = bits, B = bites
[23:27] <scunizi> 8 bits to a byte
[23:27] <ryxxed> but, let me translate
[23:27] <vbgunz> ryxxed: the FX5600 works flawlessly on a dual monitor 1920x1200x2 setup... resizing is choppy
[23:27] <ryxxed> theoretical 6 kb/s upload
[23:28] <d_mitry> i'm being asksed whether to allow restarting rsync, cupsys, cron and atd. should i?
[23:28] <ryxxed> and 90 kb/s
[23:28] <vbgunz> any other solution than buy a new card?
[23:28] <ryxxed> killing off some effects?
[23:28] <ryxxed> i have dsl
[23:28] <ryxxed> so it's no guaranteed speed
[23:28] <ryxxed> and also, it's PPPoE
[23:28] <ryxxed> which is rage inducign
[23:29] <scunizi> d_mitry, what have you been doing that it would want to ask that? either way answering OK is probably ok
[23:29] <d_mitry> scunizi: upgrading glibc.
[23:29] <vbgunz> ryxxed: actually effects is what makes everything feel more responsive. I think I tweaked the effects to zen. resizing is the only problem. everything else is quite perfect :/
[23:29]  * d_mitry does it.
[23:29] <ryxxed> i have no idea then
[23:33] <scunizi> ryxxed, I have an 8200 card on my motherboard and with the 177 driver preformance was horrible.. laggy.. streaks when moving windows etc.. the 180.xx driver fixed it all for me but it's still not up to the 173 driver on my 6600 GT AGP card
[23:34] <ryxxed> i'm gonna wait till it hits the backport
[23:34] <scunizi> ryxxed, you should be able to downgrade to the 173 without issues..
[23:35] <ryxxed> yeah, but right now, i'm copying 30 gb from ext3 to ntfs
[23:35] <ryxxed> and apt-building wine
[23:35] <scunizi> ryxxed, yea.. you don't want to do anything right now.
[23:36] <ryxxed> yeah, i know
[23:36] <ryxxed> i might as well grow a beard
[23:36] <ryxxed> thank god for 64bit
[23:39] <markus> hy where is here
[23:39] <markus> where here and speske german
[23:39] <Walzmyn> !gr
[23:40] <Walzmyn> was that german?
[23:40] <Walzmyn> !german
[23:40] <ryxxed> that was greek
[23:40] <Walzmyn> ah, de
[23:40] <Walzmyn> markus that help?
[23:41] <markus> i speake german
[23:41] <markus> and you
[23:41] <markus> yess de
[23:42] <markus> how are you
[23:42] <markus> how from you come
[23:43] <d_mitry> !ru
[23:43] <markus> watzmyn
[23:44] <markus> hy @ all
[23:46] <markus> Watzmyn i come from austria and you?
[23:47] <ryxxed> markus : double click #kubuntu-de
[23:48] <Walzmyn> markus, sorry i was AFK. I'm in the USA - follow the link ryxxed gave ya for the german channel
[23:49]  * Walzmyn remembers the language barrier - AFK = Away From Keyboard
[23:49] <scunizi> markus, macht's du /join #ubuntu-de
[23:49] <ryxxed> you mean kubuntu-de
[23:49] <scunizi> right
[23:49] <scunizi> markus, oder /join #kubuntu-de
[23:49] <markus> ok thanks but i want  chat of englisch again
[23:51] <d_mitry> chat is at #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:53] <brad_> hey I have just a quick question that I can't seem to find online anywhere (in part because I am not sure how to search for it)
[23:54] <d_mitry> ask :)
[23:55] <ryxxed> go for it
[23:55] <brad_> ok, on the newer version of kopete (and its been doing this since it first installed), instead of showing me the link, it says link
[23:55] <brad_> and then sends me to a cache page, where links dont work from
[23:55] <brad_> I cant find a setting anywhere to turn this off
[23:57] <Ketrel> I'm trying to backup my home directory to DVD
[23:57] <Ketrel> But when I try to burn it says "please insert a complete or appendable DVD +- R (W) medium"
[23:58] <ryxxed> why would you backup your home directory?
[23:58] <Ketrel> ryxxed: how is that relavant to the problem?
[23:58] <vbgunz> Anybody know how to get QtSQL properly installed? is it in a package other than qtsql or something? I don't know how to get it
[23:58] <ryxxed> well, uh, depends on what you're doing
[23:59] <ryxxed> actually, i'm just mumbling
[23:59] <ryxxed> proceed
[23:59] <Ketrel> ryxxed: I'm backing up my home directory because I'm installing the latest version fresh and I want my files on a DVD in case I need them
[23:59] <brad_> I mean, when everyone connects to kopete does it make their link say the word link?
[23:59] <brad_> *everyone upgrades
[23:59] <ryxxed> if you're doing tha
[23:59] <ryxxed> no need for backing it up
[23:59] <brad_> to the newest version, does it do this now
[23:59] <brad_> and if so why?
[23:59] <scunizi> Ketrel, much easier with an external usb HD.. but then you use what you have.
[23:59] <ryxxed> just format the OS directory, install it the latest there
[23:59] <ryxxed> don't touch home
[23:59] <ryxxed> much easier