[00:00] <slangasek> tjaalton: I don't find 385 in /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev either...?
[00:00] <tjaalton> slangasek: XF86WLAN -> <I246> -> keycode 238
[00:00] <tjaalton> slangasek: you can find 238 in /usr/include/linux/input.h
[00:01] <slangasek> tjaalton: and where does the 385 /come/ from?
[00:01] <tjaalton> ie. KEY_WLAN
[00:01] <slangasek> the scancode isn't 385, the scancode is 0xe016
[00:01] <tjaalton> slangasek: the module, X can't handle keycodes >255
[00:01] <slangasek>           <append key="input.keymap.data" type="strlist">e016:wlan</append> <!-- Fn+F5 wireless -->
[00:01] <slangasek> what does that fdi line do?
[00:01] <tjaalton> beats me :)
[00:01] <slangasek> I understood that it maps the e016 scancode to the "wlan" keycode
[00:02] <slangasek> but I don't see where wlan == 385
[00:02] <tjaalton> hmm, there's also KEY_RADIO
[00:02] <superm1> slangasek, are you using intrepid-proposed (or jaunty for that matter)?
[00:03] <slangasek> intrepid-proposed, yes
[00:03] <tjaalton> slangasek: how does e016 map to hex?
[00:03] <superm1> slangasek, okay just wanted to make sure you had all the right bits in place.  XF86WLAN probably wasn't available until my upload of a few of the hotkey things to proposed
[00:04] <slangasek> tjaalton: do you mean decimal?
[00:04] <slangasek> superm1: oh - I haven't pulled from -proposed at all this week :)
[00:04] <tjaalton> slangasek: input.h has only <255 in decimal, rest is in hex
[00:04] <slangasek> tjaalton: well, e016 is a hex number, so I'm not sure what you mean by "map to hex" :)
[00:05] <superm1> slangasek, you might want to make sure you've got the handful of my stuff from last week then.  libx11-data, xkeyboard-config particularly
[00:05] <tjaalton> slangasek: heh, ok.. different format then :)
[00:05] <superm1> otherwise you'll have some possibly unexpected behaviors
[00:06] <tjaalton> e016 == 57366 (dec)
[00:09] <soren> pitti: If you're doing archive administration stuff today, some virt-viewer love would be much appreciated.
[00:12] <soren> pitti: It's just binary new, if it matters.
[00:13] <StevenK> soren: Why does the virt-viewer binary only provide /usr/share/doc stuff?
[00:13] <soren> StevenK: You're kidding, right?
[00:13] <StevenK> Nope
[00:13] <StevenK> soren: Where are you, I'll show you?
[00:14] <soren> Weirdness. I'm using it *right* now.
[00:15] <LaserJock> dpkg -c ?
[00:15] <soren> StevenK: Err... You're right.
[00:15] <pitti> soren: probably not today; sort of busy...
[00:15] <jdong> in a chroot, how do I disable calling of sysvinit scripts?
[00:15] <jdong> I've seen pbuilders do this
[00:15]  * soren glances at his build environment, rather puzzled.
[00:15] <StevenK> soren: Shall I REJECT it, then?
[00:16] <soren> StevenK: That would probably be best :)
[00:16] <StevenK> pitti: Do I need to mail when I reject binary packages in NEW?
[00:16] <pitti> jdong: man invoke-rc.d and look for policy-rc.d
[00:16] <pitti> jdong: /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz
[00:17] <jdong> pitti: cool, just what I needed, thanks!
[00:17] <tjaalton> superm1: is the missing_inet_keys patch sent upstream?
[00:18] <superm1> tjaalton, i've sent everything i put in proposed upstream yes
[00:18] <tjaalton> superm1: ok, svu is just slow then :)
[00:18] <superm1> tjaalton, i forget which patch it was, but i know at least one package they wanted to wait for other parts to play catch up before they added it
[00:19] <superm1> tjaalton, so they were going to add it in jan or feb for "distributions to catch up"
[00:19] <tjaalton> superm1: ok, probably after xlib 1.2 is released
[00:19] <bryce_> StevenK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys now with gfx
[00:20] <soren> Hmm.... The plot thickens... I just rebuilt, and it's still builds correctly here.
[00:20] <soren> s/'s//
[00:20] <StevenK> soren: Read the build log?
[00:21] <soren> Did that..
[00:21] <soren> Oh..
[00:21] <soren> Heheh...
[00:21] <soren> *blush*
[00:22] <StevenK> Now you can explain :-P
[00:22] <soren> Apparantly, trying to weed out diff from Makefile.in updates by doing -i(foo|bar|\.in|baz) isn't such a hot idea. Hint: virt-viewer.install is also matched by that regex. :(
[00:24] <soren> So the .install files got left out of the diff.gz. -> fail
[00:26] <soren> I suppose "Don't be an idiot" isn't an appropriate changelog entry.
[00:26] <Hobbsee> sure it is
[00:26] <Hobbsee> if you're writing it about yourself ;)
[00:26] <Hobbsee> last i checked, self-depreciation is not against the CoC.
[00:27] <jdong> exactly.
[00:27] <jdong> be respectful TO OTHERS :)
[00:27] <Hobbsee> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[00:27] <Hobbsee> except maybe you ;)
[00:27] <jdong> :)
[00:28] <LaserJock> and nixternal
[00:28] <azeem> if self-depreciation was against the CoC, bddebian would've never been a MOTU
[00:28] <StevenK> soren: virt-viewer REJECTed
[00:28] <LaserJock> azeem: lol!!
[00:28] <nixternal> quit making fun of me!
[00:29] <bddebian> Hey
[00:29] <slangasek> superm1: I installed everything from intrepid-proposed, restarted X; I still get keycode 385
[00:29] <bddebian> He's not, azeem hates me
[00:29] <slangasek> superm1: should I have restarted hal first before restarting X?
[00:29] <soren> StevenK: Thanks very much. Apologies for the wasted time.
[00:29] <azeem> hating is against the CoC
[00:29] <StevenK> soren: You owe me a beer :-P
[00:29] <tjaalton> slangasek: I get the same with jaunty, so those changes can't make a difference here
[00:29] <slangasek> tjaalton: heh, ok
[00:29] <slangasek> well, I still can't figure out where 385 comes from
[00:30] <soren> StevenK: Can you just get it from jcastro? I don't think I could drink all the ones he says he owes me anyway.
[00:30] <StevenK> soren: :-P
[00:31] <LaserJock> the beer economy
[00:32] <slangasek> microbrewpayments
[00:32] <LaserJock> I'm sure jorge is looking for a bailout
[00:33] <LaserJock> "dude, I gave away all my beer, the economy would be ruined if I ran out!"
[00:34] <tjaalton> slangasek: woo, 385 == 0x181 (hex) -> KEY_RADIO
[00:34] <slangasek> tjaalton: ok, where did you find that?
[00:35] <slangasek> apparently this debugging document is going to be a bit longer than I expected ;)
[00:35] <tjaalton> slangasek: input.h. now, thinkpad_acpi.c has KEY_WLAN instead
[00:35] <slangasek> it has KEY_WLAN declared to the same value?
[00:36] <tjaalton> it only has a map of KEY_*, no mappings
[00:36] <tjaalton> uhm, does that make any sense
[00:36] <slangasek> no :-)
[00:37] <tjaalton> line ~2034
[00:37] <tjaalton> drivers/misc/thinkpad_acpi.c
[00:38] <tjaalton> so, it maps scancodes
[00:39] <tjaalton> to keycodes
[00:39] <slangasek> mumble mumble kernel
[00:40] <ogra> yummy, kernel
[00:41] <slangasek> tjaalton: so, KEY_WLAN is supposed to be defined to 238?
[00:41] <slangasek> and if I quirk the kernel keymap to output that, we should be golden?
[00:42] <tjaalton> slangasek: yes, pretty much
[00:43] <slangasek> ok, then I was in the right file before and just needed to flesh it out :)
[00:43] <slangasek> because the fdi file doesn't match my model
[00:43] <tjaalton> so you'll quirk in the fdi file?
[00:43] <slangasek> at least for testing, yes
[00:44] <infinity> doko: gcc-4.3 is still busticated on powerpc, fwiw.
[00:44] <tjaalton> slangasek: cool, throw the patch to me so I can verify
[00:45] <doko> infinity: yep, seen. maybe ask munckfish about it? won't fix it this week
[00:46] <infinity> doko: Mmkay.  Wasn't all that distressed about it, just making sure you noticed.
[00:46] <superm1> kirkland, i think it's needed still in the postinst too.  it's not doing the right thing for me on fresh installs at all
[00:47] <slangasek> tjaalton: /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/30-keymap-module-thinkpad-acpi.fdi :         <append key="input.keymap.data" type="strlist">0x04:radio</append> <!-- Fn+F5 wifi -->
[00:47] <slangasek> tjaalton: patch == fix that :)
[00:47] <slangasek> (both instances)
[00:48] <tjaalton> slangasek: humm, ok, but actually, my lshal actually has that already :)
[00:49] <slangasek> tjaalton: by "fix that", I mean "replace radio with wlan"
[00:49] <slangasek> since radio == KEY_RADIO == FAIL
[00:49] <tjaalton> ahh, right
[00:49] <superm1> isn't KEY_RADIO really what should be providing such functionality though?
[00:49] <tjaalton> we'll see in a minute :)
[00:51] <elmo> does anyone know of a 'reduce a list of packages down as far as possible' in terms of 'if you have foo and bar and foo depends on bar, only list foo'
[00:52] <elmo> a script/program to do so
[00:56] <tjaalton> slangasek: ok, now xev shows XF86WLAN, but nothing happens :)
[00:57] <tjaalton> but if it really should be KEY_RADIO, then there needs to be some daemon to listen to it, and X shouldn't care
[01:02] <soren> elmo: Isn't that sort of what deborphan does?
[01:02] <soren> elmo: If "have" == "is installed" anyway.
[01:04] <ebroder> elmo: "aptitude install '!~M'" can sort of do that, but it usually tends to be overly inclusive
[01:08] <Hobbsee> please P-A-S acpica-unix on armel.  Thanks!
[01:41] <slangasek> tjaalton: correct - there's no action implemented for XF86Wlan, AFAIK :-)
[01:41] <slangasek> hmm, we did discuss that hal should be listening for this rather than current X, didn't we
[01:43] <slangasek> so actually, we can revert that one, can't we
[02:38] <tjaalton> slangasek: right, some keys are best handled elsewhere
[03:19] <raylu> what does does it mean for a bug to be triaged?
[03:19] <raylu> is it determined to be of high or low importance?
[03:19] <ScottK-laptop> raylu: No, it means that it has enough information for a developer to work on fixing it.
[03:20] <ScottK-laptop> raylu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[03:23] <raylu> ScottK-laptop: thanks
[03:34] <raylu> how are all the files for these two bugs generated?
[03:35] <raylu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/270271
[03:35] <raylu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/247480
[03:35] <raylu> i'm getting something similar and i'm about to report it, but i'm wondering where all those other files came from
[03:40] <andersk> Those reports were generated automatically using apport.
[03:40] <andersk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[03:57] <raylu> ah, impressive
[04:06] <ebroder> Any backporters who could ACK 301283 or 305001 ?
[04:06] <ebroder> Oh, fine. LP #301283 or LP #305001
[04:06] <ebroder> There we go
[06:49] <alkisg> Hello... If I run setupcon on tty1, the console fonts display fine. If I switch to tty2 and then back to tty1, the fonts are broken. Could this be due to nvidia proprietary driver not saving/restoring correctly the vga state in my laptop? Where can I report this?
[06:53] <alkisg> And another, similar one: while installing Ubuntu (any version so far), if I select Greek language anywhere, I get the "Uni1" font in /etc/default/console-setup, which doesn't containt Greek characters. It should be either Uni2 or Greek. Should I report this under console-setup, or under the installer?
[09:09] <mr_pouit> directhex: xfce4 uploads still need to be ordered.
[13:29] <leszek> hi
[13:30] <leszek> where can I set the name of the automatic ubuntu grub installation entry in the menu.lst on the livecd. So that it shows something different in the autoinstalled grub after installation ? Is there a config file for it somewhere ?
[14:47] <stewski> has anyone come across a bug where gvfs endlessly asks for passwords when connecting to a samba share
[14:54] <gaspa> vorian: lemonpos has a conflicting manpage with another package (squeeze). (I asked you as seems you wrote the manpage)
[14:54] <gaspa> what do you think it's better? renaming the manpage could be enough?
[15:02] <vorian> gaspa: let me look at iy when i get home
[15:03] <gaspa> vorian: ok. ;)
[17:24] <ebroder> What's the next step on trying to get an SRU for LP #216761?
[17:24] <ebroder> Someone commented that it should be assigned to the maintainer, but the maintainer of xen-utils-3.2 is "Ubuntu Core Developers"
[17:24] <ebroder> And the SRU wiki page says that the fix should be in the dev release, but the xen-utils-3.2 package dead-ended in Hardy
[17:25] <ebroder> Do I need to get the fix into xen-utils-3.3 before I can get it into -3.2?
[17:30] <pochu> ebroder: it needs to be fixed in Jaunty first, then it can be fixed in the stable releases
[17:31] <pochu> ebroder: also note that those packages are in main, so you should subscribe ubuntu-sru instead of motu-sru
[17:31] <ebroder> pochu: But xen-utils-3.2 isn't in Jaunty
[17:31] <pochu> ebroder: oh, true
[17:31] <ebroder> And xen-utils-3.2 is in universe...
[17:31] <pochu> but the source is in main, so it's up to ubuntu-sru
[17:32] <ebroder> Oh, huh. Ok
[17:32] <pochu> ebroder: so I'd say, fix it in jaunty for xen-3.3 (in case it needs fixing), then go for the stable releases
[17:32] <ebroder> Is it useful for me to upload a debdiff that's the attached patch + a changelog entry?
[17:33] <pochu> sure thing
[17:33] <pochu> ebroder: if you do so, subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsors too
[17:33] <ebroder> Ok
[17:33] <pochu> !sponsorship
[17:34] <pochu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[17:34] <pochu> which basically says you need to attach patches in launchpad and subscribe ubuntu-{main,universe}-sponsors as appropriate
[20:24] <mohbana> why was the font viewer removed from ubuntu 8.10?