[15:44] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: I can't figure out that bug you are experiencing. I guess you are missing the symbolic link at /usr/share/gnome/help/libs?
[15:46] <Rocket2DMn> hey mdke
[15:46] <Rocket2DMn> i just ran across the bug report when i was triaging yesterday, and i was able to reproduce it
[15:46]  * mdke nods
[15:47] <Rocket2DMn> i didnt try to read very much into the output, let me have a look at the attachments i uploaded
[15:47] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: I've asked for the output of a couple more commands, if you have time
[15:48] <Rocket2DMn> sure let me wake up the laptop
[15:49] <Rocket2DMn> heh yeah that directory is empty
[15:49] <mdke> it exists?
[15:50] <mdke> it should be a symbolic link pointing at /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs
[15:50] <Rocket2DMn> i just posted back, the directory exists but it is empty
[15:51] <Rocket2DMn> negative, it is its own directory
[15:51] <mdke> how bizarre
[15:52] <mdke> I'm stumped about that
[15:52] <Rocket2DMn> that laptop has been upgraded since Feisty
[15:52] <mdke> aha...
[15:53] <Rocket2DMn> its always been to a stable release though, i dont use it for development testing
[15:53] <mdke> I think that in gutsy and feisty that directory may not have been a symbolic link, so I guess what has happened is that it didn't get removed, and therefore the symbolic link can't be created
[15:54] <Rocket2DMn> i see in Jaunty that it is a symlink
[15:54] <mdke> it should be in Intrepid too
[15:54] <Rocket2DMn> its not a symlink in hardy
[15:55] <mdke> does it have files in it in hardy?
[15:55] <Rocket2DMn> yeah
[15:55] <Rocket2DMn> they are symlinked though
[15:55] <mdke> ok, that must be the issue
[15:56] <mdke> i don't know how to fix that :)
[15:56] <Rocket2DMn> idk how updates are configured during upgrades, but i guess you need to run a command to check for a symlink, and if it doesnt exist, then delete the directory and create the link
[15:56] <Rocket2DMn> like a bash script with some if/then statements
[15:57] <mdke> maybe
[15:57] <Rocket2DMn> i dont actually patch bugs for Ubuntu, i drew the line at triaging
[15:58] <mdke> I'll ask one of the developers who knows all about packaging
[15:58] <Rocket2DMn> ok, do you want me to post the source of problem to the bug report?
[15:59] <mdke> thanks for your help debugging that issue
[15:59] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: no, that's fine. I think the bug report has the right info now
[15:59] <Rocket2DMn> ok, no problem
[15:59] <Rocket2DMn> and thank you for the testimonial last week
[15:59] <mdke> pleasure
[16:00] <Rocket2DMn> did you go to UDS Jaunty?
[16:00] <mdke> no
[16:00] <mdke> I've never been to a developer conference
[16:01] <Rocket2DMn> i havent either, but i would loved to have gone to this one.  I was from the Bay Area, and I have a friend who works at Google, I could've gotten in no problem
[16:01] <Rocket2DMn> didnt think my company would fly my 3k miles for that though
[16:02] <mdke> heh
[16:02] <mdke> I can't really see myself getting the time off either
[16:02] <Rocket2DMn> yeah same, woulda been great if they could fly me out there and give me a charge number
[16:03] <mdke> indeed
[16:03] <Rocket2DMn> apparently it was decided (or just announced) at UDS that the Forum Council can now approve Ubuntu Members
[16:03] <mdke> ok. I know it's been talked about for a bit
[16:04] <mdke> personally, I thoroughly disapprove of team councils being permitted to approve Ubuntu members, especially now that we have a great regional board system
[16:04] <mdke> if team councils do it, you lose the benefit of contributors being seen by other areas of the community, because teams just appoint members from their own section of the community
[16:05] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, I think the idea was that it could be granted to outstanding contributors to the forums.
[16:05] <Rocket2DMn> however i do wish the forums were more integrated with the rest of the community, and having to go to regional boards is one way to encourage that
[16:05] <mdke> that's exactly my point
[16:06] <Rocket2DMn> there is discussion right now about how another mod and i who are currently on the regional board application list are going to go through the approval process.  i'm all for staying with the regional board, like everybody else does
[16:06] <mdke> it's up to you :)
[16:07] <Rocket2DMn> we'll figure it out soon, it would be nice if they set a date for the next meeting though
[16:09] <j1mc> hi a
[16:09] <j1mc> all
[16:10] <Rocket2DMn> hello
[16:12] <j1mc> is there talk of a docteam meeting?
[16:12] <mdke> no :)
[16:13] <Rocket2DMn> lol, we dont actually have many people who sit in this channel, and those that do dont speak
[16:13] <j1mc> yes, it's pretty rare
[16:13] <mdke> I don't think we have had a meeting for a number of years now, it wouldn't be a bad idea
[16:14] <Rocket2DMn> i would very much like to know what duncan lithgow was doing onthe community docs and how we can clean it up
[16:16] <j1mc> i know that we had tried to coordinate a meeting during the hardy release, but couldn't work out schedules.
[16:17] <j1mc> it should be a busy doc cycle for me, as xfce needs new docs for xfce 4.6
[16:17] <mdke> cool
[16:17] <j1mc> fortunately, work has mellowed out some for now.
[16:17] <j1mc> so not as many late nights.
[16:18] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, thats good
[16:19]  * mdke ducks out for a bit
[16:19] <j1mc> have a good day, mdke
[16:19] <Rocket2DMn> see ya mdke
[16:19] <Rocket2DMn> hmm CategoryX and CategoryXwindowSystem