[02:09] <xp_prg> oh cool, hi everyone, I just installed 8.04 on my virtual host, want to upgrade to 8.10 but not clear how to do that using only command line, can anyone assist?
[02:10] <xp_prg> hi anyone here?
[02:10] <xp_prg> I want to user ubuntu server
[02:11] <xp_prg> user = use
[02:20] <ScottK-laptop> xp_prg: sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:21] <xp_prg> do-release-upgrade
[02:21] <xp_prg> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[02:21] <xp_prg> No new release found
[02:21] <xp_prg> should that happen ScottK-laptop?
[02:22] <ScottK-laptop> There's a flag you need to use.  Let me look (this is because 8.04 is LTS).  Hang on.
[02:22] <xp_prg> ok many thanks
[02:22] <xp_prg> is it:  do-release-upgrade -d
[02:22] <xp_prg> ?
[02:23] <ScottK-laptop> I think so.
[02:24] <ScottK-laptop> Worst case it won't find anything either.
[02:25] <hads> Yeah -d
[02:25] <zoopster> did you already apt-get install update-manager-core?
[02:25] <xp_prg> ya just did that
[02:25] <xp_prg> that will bring me up to 8.10 right?
[02:25] <ScottK-laptop> Should.
[02:25] <hads> Yeah
[02:25] <xp_prg> nice! what are the benefits of 8.10 compared to 8.04?
[02:25] <hads> Some things
[02:26] <hads> Depends what services you use etc.
[02:26] <xp_prg> well I am hoping to make this a django/postgres type server
[02:26] <hads> Not a lot of difference then I'd say.
[02:26] <ScottK-laptop> 8.10 has django 1.0 for starters then.
[02:27] <hads> Unless you use django from packages I guess, heh.
[02:27]  * hads doesn't use django
[02:27] <xp_prg> I guess everyone loves php
[02:27] <ScottK-laptop> Now that it's 1.0 that's a pretty reasonable thing to do.
[02:27] <hads> ScottK-laptop: True
[02:27]  * ScottK-laptop wouldn't touch php with a 10 foot pole.
[02:27] <hads> xp_prg: I wouldn't guess that
[02:27] <xp_prg> what do you like Scott?
[02:27] <xp_prg> jsp?
[02:28]  * ScottK-laptop is more of a mail server guy than a web server guy, so I tend to hand write python scripts when I need non-static web stuff.
[02:28] <ScottK-laptop> But I'd do Perl before I'd do PHP.
[02:28] <hads> I do websites in Python, not django though.
[02:29] <xp_prg> what do you use hads?
[02:29] <ScottK-laptop> I know a number of people who really like Pylons.
[02:29] <ScottK-laptop> I haven't tried it myself.
[02:30] <ScottK> I'm also experimenting with different IRC clients right now.
[02:30] <hads> I use Werkzeug/Jinja/SQLAlchemy mostly.
[02:30] <xp_prg> I wish perl had a good backend, only thing you can use is like catalyst but that is not very turnkey
[02:34] <xp_prg> if I do the do-release command and disconnect from the terminal does it stop running?
[02:41] <hads> Of course, unless you're running in screen.
[02:45] <xp_prg> well if I exit in the middle can it restart ok or not?
[02:53] <xp_prg> anyone know the answer to that, I need to know please
[02:54] <zoopster> xp_prg: not a good idea, you may be left with a non-functional system depending on where it is left
[02:54] <xp_prg> oops ok
[02:55] <hads> Patience is a virtue
[02:55] <ScottK> If you run do-release-upgrade via ssh it'll start a second instance of ssh you can connect to
[02:55] <ScottK> It's not recommended, but I've never had a problem with it.
[02:55] <hads> And print several warnings telling you all about it.
[02:55] <ScottK> Yes.
[02:55] <xp_prg> yes I ran it via ssh
[02:55] <ScottK> It's not clear to me how else one is supposed to do a remote upgrade.
[02:55] <hads> Yeah, I do it too.
[02:56] <hads> In screen of course
[02:56] <xp_prg> so it is ok to disconnect if it I did that way?
[02:57] <xp_prg> ScottK ?
[02:58] <ScottK> I suppose.
[02:58]  * xp_prg wishes he would have used screen
[02:58] <ScottK> I actually don't generally bother with that as my ssh connections are very reliable.
[02:59]  * hads has dodgy NZ ADSL
[03:00] <xp_prg> wow the upgrade is done!
[03:02] <zoopster> my upgrade went quick as well, but then again I don't have much on it!
[03:52] <alex_21> I want to set up my own equivilant to dyndns for my users. I run a service where people can use hard drive space on their home hdd to store stuff and access it via username.vipbc.org instead of ipaddress. How to do this, is what I am after
[06:29] <axisys_> is there a pkg for lustre filesystem?
[11:12] <Kapli> Hey, I've used apt-get install eggdrop to install the eggdrop bot but i cant find out where it was installed
[11:15] <badawi> dpkg -L eggdrop
[11:16] <_ruben> and dpkg -L eggdrop-data
[11:20] <Kapli> thanks
[12:22] <stefg> Hi, i'm about to set up a backup server and find contradicting info about wether a mdadm raid 1 takes advantage of the combined read speed of the participating disk. The mdadm wiki says yes, some benchmarkers say no... any mdadm expert in here who can shed light on this?
[12:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> its supposed to, wether you see a noticeable difference on the other hand ... (note, not an expert on mdadm)
[12:29] <stefg> Hmm... my problem is that it the server needs to be a drop in replacemant for the actual file server in case of failure. As you can imagine the budget only paid a backup machine whose I/O performance will get my users angry, should the actual server ever fail ... so if raid 1 does not increase read speeds over a single disk i might beg for some more disks to setup a raid 10 instead
[12:35] <_ruben> too many factors involved, run benchmarks to make sure, also depends on the type of workload and everything .. tho the global rule of thumb is that raid1 has better read performance over single disk
[12:35] <_ruben> raid10 gives even more read performance, and also increased write performance
[12:39] <stefg> Yeah, i was hoping to get around of doing benchmarking myself... workload is just files erving (samba) in a 30 user network. but as all users have all their files on the samba server it's quite busy
[15:30] <refnumzx> i am getting the following error in the kernel log from my ubuntu 8.10 server [236776.421342] console-kit-dae[9983]: segfault at 1a0 ip 00007fa54526ee09 sp 000000004091d090 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.1800.2[7fa545242000+c3000]
[15:31] <refnumzx> any advice on how to stop this error? or what is causing this?
[15:31] <refnumzx> google doesn't help
[15:36] <ScottK-laptop> refnumzx: That's related to the consolekit package, which isn't normallly a part of Ubuntu Server installs.
[15:38] <refnumzx> i did not install it on my own the only packages i select during install was the virtualization package and openssh-server. can i remove this package with out harm, and if so what is the package name?
[15:39] <ScottK-laptop> consolekit is the package name.  You can try to remove it and see what else is removed too (it'll ask for confirmation).  If you don't care about the other stuff it wants to remove, then go ahead.
[15:39] <refnumzx> consolekit is the name.
[15:40] <refnumzx> uhh dbus and dbus-x11
[15:40] <refnumzx> do you know wha they do?
[15:41] <ScottK-laptop> Those are things consolekit needs, not things that need consolekit, so if that's it, it's safe to remove.
[15:41] <refnumzx> ah right, thanks man appreciate it
[15:41] <ScottK-laptop> Dbus is more commonly found in desktop installations.
[15:42] <ScottK-laptop> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[15:42] <refnumzx> why would it install for this server? strange.
[15:42] <refnumzx> i tried to be minimal when it comes to this instal as i am going to be using it for virtual machines
[15:42] <refnumzx> using the kvm builder that ships with this version
[15:43] <ScottK-laptop> Dunno.  I checked and I don't have it installed in my Intrepid server, but it was also an upgrade from Hardy, so it's possible a new install would bring in more packages.
[15:43] <refnumzx> ah. ok
[15:49] <refnumzx> are you sing VM on your server? if so, do you use the built in ubuntu tools? do you like them? how is network performance? any problems with USB storage?
[15:50] <ScottK-laptop> I've experimented a bit, but not really and not recently, so i don't have much to offer.
[15:51] <ScottK-laptop> I know that Ubuntu is putting a lot of effort into it, so I'd expect the supported tools to work reasonably well.
[15:52] <refnumzx> yeah, i would as well.  how do you use your server?  i mostly use my servers for file storage over samba/nfs, mail and other database tasks so i think virtualizing will be a good approach?
[15:54] <ScottK-laptop> Sorry, need to run off ....
[15:54] <refnumzx> seeya
[16:15] <Miscc>  hello is there some program or script to allow only some countries make connection into my server and prevent other countries from connecting to my server in deffirent ports ??
[16:28] <lianimator> how do I make a local server accessible from the outside (e.g. Internet)?
[16:29] <lianimator> I have installed apache server on Ubuntu. it's works locally. I am behind a router.
[16:30] <lianimator> so if I access my external IP, the it goes to my router config page by default.. what do I do from here?
[16:31] <lianimator> I tried adding port 8080 to NameVirtualHost and Listen in the file etc/apache2/ports.conf
[16:31] <lianimator> but when I restart apache, it says NameVirtualHost takes one argument.. I'm trying to adapt http://www.groovypost.com/howto/apache/configure-apache-web-site-to-use-multiple-ports/ to Ubuntu
[16:39] <Miscc>  hello is there some program or script to allow only some countries make connection into my server and prevent other countries from connecting to my server in deffirent ports ??
[16:53] <lianimator> Miscc: what do you mean by different ports?
[17:15] <Miscc> lianimator : all public ports like 22 80 21 ...
[18:28] <Crystalli> blaae ! :S
[18:28] <Crystalli> +tnc
[18:40] <Chipzz> Miscc: for apache, you can try geoip
[18:41] <Chipzz> but that doesn't work for arbitrary ports
[18:41]  * Chipzz is having some troubles with the crap called UUID
[18:42] <Chipzz> findfs only finds my root partition, not the other partitions
[18:42] <Chipzz> I'm thinking it's because some symlinks (/dev/md-*) are not created
[18:43] <Chipzz> what would be responsible for that? udev I suppose?
[19:05] <Hawkey> hi, im looking for some mysql diagnostic tool for ubuntu, can someone give me some tip?
[19:06] <jmarsden> Hawkey: mysqladmin?  Be more specific -- what is the problem you are having?
[19:07] <Hawkey> hi loads
[19:07] <Hawkey> high loads ...
[19:08] <jmarsden> So you think there is a specific query causing this?  You can turn on query logging and see what is happening that way... is that the kind of thing you are looking for?
[19:09] <Hawkey> or back forget.. some utility which shows me  why are my cores on 100%.. for example i have own program and it loads 100% of one core.. so.. is there some utility to check where could be some mistake?.. some kind like valgrind if you now
[19:11] <jmarsden> Sounds like this is not a MySQL issue, but a basic "my prorgam is looping" issue... what language is your program written in?
[19:13] <Hawkey> jmarsden : i wrote forget;) written in c++
[19:14] <jmarsden> So why not use whatever debugger you normally use for C++ programs (gdb or watever) to debug this one?
[19:16] <Hawkey> well.. good point :DD
[19:16] <jmarsden> You could try gprof if you ened a profiler, but I think a normal debugger might be the first thing to try.
[19:16] <jmarsden> s/ened/need/
[19:24] <maswan> Hawkey: oprofile takes a system view on what's taking up time. systemtap if you need to do more in-depth instrumentation in the kernel etc.
[19:24] <Hawkey> thanx
[22:23] <aaronkrill> anyone here use haproxy?
[23:25] <Hawkey> lol interesting
[23:27] <Hawkey> jmarsden : remember advice you gave me before 4 hours? ;)
[23:48] <aaronkrill> i cant get haproxy to add the x-forwarded-for headers to requests... any ideas? my config: http://dpaste.com/98651/