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KetrelListen, if I could do any of this, I would, but I can't so I'm doing it fresh00:00
KetrelLets try this another way00:00
KetrelI'm trying to burn a Data DVD for a friend00:00
KetrelBut when I try to burn it says "please insert a complete or appendable DVD +- R (W) medium"00:00
ryxxedtell your friend that he shouldn't touch his home directory00:00
ryxxedbut in all seriousness00:00
KetrelIt's no longer the home directory00:00
ryxxedi have no clue, have you tried googling00:00
Ketrelit's just a generic data dvd00:00
KetrelI googled it and found nothing usefull00:01
ryxxedtried different dvds?00:01
Ketreldon't have different DVDs, but KDE detects it as a blank DVD00:01
Ketrelwhen I insert it00:01
Kenzor_maybe you have one of those old exlusively + or - drives00:01
Kenzor_and the wrong kind of DVD00:02
KetrelI've burned this type of DVD on windows on the same laptop00:02
ryxxedtry a different program?00:02
KetrelI'm open to that, got any suggestions?00:02
scuniziKetrel, much easier with an external usb HD.. but then you use what you have on the DVD and the software isn't prepaired to split the burn in several DVD's00:02
ryxxedk3b comes with kde00:02
ryxxedso, let's say, try brasero00:02
scunizithat didn't make any sense because I inadvertantly hit the mouse pad on this laptop.. drives me nuts..00:03
Ketrelscunizi: the directory I wish to burn is under 4.4gb00:03
KetrelI asked this in #kde as well and was told that this was a bug in kubuntu which at least when he last looked was never fixed00:04
scuniziKetrel, interesting..  maybe take the data and make an ISO out of it then burn just one file..00:04
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Ketrelis there any way to make the iso in k3b (because I did exclude some files from the DVD)00:04
scuniziKetrel, sure..00:04
Ketreland how?00:05
scuniziI'll look hang on.00:06
KetrelBrasero segfaults XD00:06
ryxxedawesome00:06
Ketrelonly when a DVD is in00:06
Ketrelif it's empty it's fine00:06
crimsaqI have lost my entire kpanel, its completely blank... anyone know how I can restore it back to normal?00:07
crimsaqmy clock, taskbar apps, EVERYTHING is gone :|00:07
ryxxedright click > add widgets?00:07
crimsaqI have to manually add it all back?00:07
ryxxedit's not that hard00:07
ryxxedin fact, it's easier00:08
Kenzor_i've had that happen once or twice too, it's a pain00:08
ryxxedctrl + l = ftw00:08
crimsaq.00:08
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Ketrelok, option two, time to setup samba00:09
lmghi there is there anybody knows how to use joining yahoo chat using kopete?00:09
crimsaqomg this is so retarded.00:10
crimsaqnone of the widgets are fitting right00:10
crimsaqI added a clock and it spanned the entire panel00:10
crimsaq...00:10
crimsaqcovering up my kmenu.00:11
ryxxedright click on the panel00:11
ryxxededit panel00:11
scuniziKetrel, this might help some.. two things are mentioned.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/create-.iso-image-wk3b-287326/00:11
Ketrelscunizi doesn't matter any more, I get the same problem in K3b when trying to burn an image, and Brasero segfaults when I put a DVD in00:12
crimsaqI need a break from this, its pissing me off.00:12
KetrelI'm gonna try with samba00:12
vbgunzis there a way to maximize a window *but* without overlapping another? sort of maximize into empty space?00:12
ryxxedresizing ext300:12
ryxxedhow safe is it?00:12
scuniziKetrel, that's weird.. I use k3b in gnome with dvd's and it works fine.00:12
ActionParsnipyo yo yo00:13
vbgunzdo I need the cddb configuration tool on Intrepid? is this a left over from KDE 3.5?00:14
ActionParsnip!info cddb00:15
ubottucddb (source: xmcd): CD DataBase support tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-19.2 (intrepid), package size 59 kB, installed size 144 kB00:15
brad_so does anyone have any answer about how to make it stop saying "link" instead of showing me the link in Kopete? This happened to other people right?00:15
vbgunzcool00:15
vbgunzactually I don't even have xmcd installed... but I do see the cddb configuration tool in settings00:16
vbgunzI'll peep into it00:16
Ketrelscunizi as I said, it's supposed to be a bug from what I heard00:18
vbgunzthis is what the command says: kcmshell libkcddb ... I am thinking though if it is a lib, should I really remove it... hmm, in a bind00:18
Ketrela but in 8.04 (BTW)00:18
ryxxedis there a way to display RSS feeds on desktop?00:20
ryxxedusing akregator00:20
ActionParsnipbrad_: when does it say link?00:21
fleetcommandi think akregator can't display rss feeds on desktop00:22
marek_hi anybody with success with Ata-over-Ethernet?00:22
d_mitryryxxed: how long do you think the upgrade's gonna take?00:23
d_mitry256 mb of ram and 1.2 ghz processor.00:23
ryxxednot as much as what i'm dong00:23
ryxxedwait, wait00:23
ryxxedi take that back00:23
d_mitryhaha00:23
brad_actionparsnip: when someone sends a link, instead of seeing the actual text of the link, it says the word link (so I cant see what website it is) then when I click on it it opens as a cached page00:23
ryxxedmy 8 year old pc is better than that00:23
brad_and it did this ever since upgrading and there is no setting I can find about it00:23
ryxxedbut still your internet is 10 times faster00:23
d_mitry...whoa, i just saw "Done."00:23
d_mitryoh, that was for just one thing.00:24
ryxxedi want to punch you over the internet00:24
ActionParsnipryxxed: if it does the job then its fine00:24
d_mitryheh00:24
ActionParsnipbrad_: then ask the person to send it as normal text00:24
ryxxedyou're gonna aptitude my fist through the universe repo00:24
marek_i;m typing "modprobe aoe", but with  tail /var/log/syslog i cant see any action, what might be the cause?00:24
ryxxedactionparsnip : since you're here, anyway i can dock my rss feed on the desktop?00:24
brad_no thats what they do, they copy and paste the link00:25
brad_into the chat window, from the web browser00:25
brad_and I see the word "link"00:25
brad_every time00:25
ActionParsnipryxxed: no idea man00:25
ryxxedwell, i guess you gotta experiment00:25
brad_ever since getting whatever the major kopete upgrade was00:25
scunizibrad_, switch to irssi :).. you'll never have that issue again.00:26
ryxxedirssi supports msn?00:27
brad_did this not happen to anyone else?00:27
brad_does anyone here use the new kopete?00:27
d_mitrythrough bitlbee, it does.00:27
ryxxedeven pidgin's better than kopete00:27
brad_yeah I find I never get help here so I'm going to go this is just going to continue to drive me insane indefinitely00:28
d_mitrypidgin 2.5.2 is great. all it needs is voice clip and webcam support now.00:28
brad_I mean these answers aren't even comments on this problem00:28
brad_I say I try to do something which should work, and wont work, and am told "well don't do that"00:28
d_mitrybrad_: i'd love to help, but i don't use kopete.00:28
scunizibrad_, have you considered xchat.. it's better than kopete and pidgin00:30
illissiushi00:31
illissiusanyone here have kdm autologin working w/ intrepid?00:31
scuniziwhy would you do that and ruin your security?00:31
ActionParsnipillissius: i do00:31
Dragnslcrbrad_- I've seen that or heard of anyone else having that problem. what version of Kopete?00:31
illissiusscunizi: because i'm a masochist who is incapable of making rational decisions.00:32
brad_I'm on 4.1.3 now, it was as soon as I upgraded to the version where the icon changed00:32
ActionParsnipscunizi: if he lives alone and no one ever sees his system, its pretty ok00:32
scuniziillissius, Ah! In that case please proceed!00:32
illissiusActionParsnip: could you send me the contents of your /etc/pam.d/kdm-np in a query please?00:32
ActionParsnipillissius: in a query?00:32
Dragnslcrbrad_- Help -> About Kopete00:32
vbgunzdoes anybody know how to get konqueror to open an iso seamlessly? I mean just browsing to one, clicking on it, it simply mounts and opens?00:33
illissiusActionParsnip: hm. dunno how it is in pidgin :/00:33
illissiusin konversation you would right click my name and select 'open query'00:33
ActionParsnipillissius: http://pastebin.com/f57cb587800:33
illissiuspidgin might call it a private chat or something...00:33
illissiusActionParsnip: that works too :) thanks a bunch00:34
ActionParsnipillissius: its a pastebin00:34
illissiusi see that00:34
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illissiushmm00:35
illissiusso that's not my problem then :(00:35
illissius(same file here)00:35
illissiusstupid pam00:35
illissiusshould it be making a difference whether I'm using kubuntu's KDE packages or KDE from SVN (which I am)?00:36
scuniziWhy are the help files for kmail not installed? can't find them in the repos either.00:37
illissiusalternately, if anyone knows how to make it give me something more detailed about why it fails than just "authentication failed", that would also be very helpful00:39
ryxxedum00:40
ryxxedsudo passwd user ?00:40
scuniziillissius, have you looked at dmesg?00:40
ryxxedtried that?00:40
illissiusryxxed: yeah I can login normally just fine, it's just setting up autologin which doesn't work00:40
ryxxedwhat does it say?00:40
ryxxedyou can't autologin with a blank password00:41
ryxxedi think00:41
illissiusryxxed: well kdm starts up, pops up a dialog saying "authentication failed", I close it, and then I type in my password and login normally00:41
illissius(i.e. my password isn't blank)00:41
ryxxedmisstyped it?00:41
scuniziillissius, have you seen this ? http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm00:41
illissiusscunizi: i have, kernel log doesn't say much about this... nor does anything in /var/log, far as i can tell00:42
SkittleLinux18hey everybody, i got a simple question00:42
scunizino such thing00:42
scunizibut go ahead :)00:42
SkittleLinux18scunizi:  haha... ok00:42
mhallhey i'm pretty baffled by how things are working after i distupgraded hardy to intrepid00:43
mhallso i am in KDE 4, it works, but a lot of the defaults are really annoying00:43
ActionParsnipmhall: in what way?00:43
mhallno problem, right, try to run kcontrol00:43
mhallbut it got replaced with systemsettings00:43
mhallso i installed that with aptitude (hey i used debian since 1997)00:43
illissiusryxxed: ...misstyped what? (again, logging in normally with my password works, it's autologin which doesn't)00:43
ActionParsnipyou could symlink it if you want :)00:43
mhallbut the content pane is blank00:44
mhalllike, i can't tweak any settings of anything00:44
SkittleLinux18if my kubuntu intrepid has a screen resolution of 1280x1024. then i restart my computer and come back to a screen resolution of 1024x768, with no option in teh GUI's to set it back, how can i get it back to 1280x1024?00:44
mhallall it's got is overview and search00:44
ryxxedoh00:44
mhallthe rest is blank00:44
ryxxedrght00:44
mhalli can't figure out wtf i'm supposed to do now, lol00:44
mhalli ran out of ideas00:44
illissiusmhall: use systemsettings? :)00:44
mhallillissius: i tried00:45
mhallillissius: but the content pane is blank00:45
mhallillissius: nothing to click on, type into, etc00:45
mhallillissius: only overview and search00:45
illissiusoh. I thought you meant you didn't like it and installed kcontrol instead, which didn't work00:45
mhallillissius: like i think i must have some pkgs missing from the dist upgrade00:45
illissiusseems probable00:45
kerescan someone help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd600:45
mhallillissius: nope, i would be willing to suffer through any interface no matter how bad00:45
illissiusaptitude install kubuntu-desktop do anything?00:45
mhallillissius: but i have literally *no* interface to suffer thru ;)00:46
mhallillissius: let me try it in another konsole tab... one sec00:46
mhallillissius: ok it's getting about 14mb of goodies00:46
mhallillissius: then after this log myself out and bounce my kdm?00:46
sgroi135Can someone please give me a hand.  I just istalled Nepenthes using apt-get. That cause it to automatically start.  I would like to be able to start from the console so that i can have it running on the screen.  Is tehre a way to open so i can watch.  Im not sure that if i restart if it will start on reboot00:47
scunizimhall, in a terminal try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and see if it pulls in things that were missed.00:47
illissiusmhall: something like that00:47
mhallscunizi: will do once illissius's kubuntu-desktop finishes00:47
vbgunzis there a way to *list* every single application that comes on the Intrepid CD?00:47
illissiusmaybe just running kbuildsycoca4 followed by systemsettings will pick it up w/o having to relogin00:47
vbgunz*only* the applications that actually install?00:48
mhallscunizi: no dice00:48
mhalllet me logout and login00:48
illissiusSkittleLinux18: yeah, that's not a n easy question :). dunno how to solve it w/ xorg autoconfiguring itself these days either...00:49
* illissius checks if there's a #pam...00:49
ActionParsnipvbgunz: find /media/cdrom0 -name *.deb 2>/dev/null00:49
illissiuspopulation: 2 :/00:50
ActionParsnipvbgunz: oic, er not sure00:50
ryxxedskittlelinux18 : have you tried configuring your xorg?00:50
mhallillissius: good call man00:52
mhallillissius: that totally fixed it up00:52
mhallare there any other metapackages i should manually reinstall just to make sure nothing else is wonky on here00:53
illissiusawesome00:53
mhallor am i cool now00:53
illissiusthink that's it00:53
mhallillissius: i'll owe you a beer next time you end up in norcal00:53
illissiusubuntu-desktop if you also have/need gnome00:53
mhalllol gnome is so... 199500:53
mhall;-) </troll>00:54
ryxxedworst troll ever00:54
illissiusmhall: lol. i might take you up on it if I ever cross the atlantic ;)00:54
mhallthis laptop does a surpisingly good job of kde400:54
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: no i haven't. which text file can i manually edit to make the resolution 1280x1024??00:54
mhalli have an hp mobile workstation 8510w00:54
scuniziillissius, he'll probably buy you a coors light..00:54
mhallinternal quadro board00:54
scunizi:)00:54
ryxxedskittlelinux18 : /etc/X11/xorg.conf00:55
mhallscunizi: nah i'll get the man an alaska amber00:55
ryxxedfor manual edition00:55
SkittleLinux18thanks00:55
scunizithat's much better..00:55
mhallryxxed: you didn't get ryxxrolled by that little troll, eh? ;)00:55
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: i'll report back in a few to let you know how i made out00:55
mhallryxxed: i just couldn't resist making it though :)00:55
mhallscunizi: no point to buying somebody a CL if they do you a legit favor on something00:56
ryxxedk, skittle00:56
ryxxedmhall : uh, yeah, a real man trolls with bug guns00:57
mhallryxxed: i wasn't trying to say it was a good one00:57
scunizimhall, how true.. I was drinking a Karl Strauss xmas dark last night.. yummy00:57
mhallryxxed: after all it's a bit unkind to GNAA a channel that gives good assistance ;)00:57
ryxxedtrue00:57
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: does this channel have a paste thingy where i can paste info to and then send you the link??00:57
mhallscunizi: haven't had that yet00:57
ryxxedpaste.ubuntu.com00:57
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: because i am not seeing anything in my file regarding screen resolution00:58
mhallscunizi: i'll have to find some at this local alcohol shop00:58
try4cedoes any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??00:58
d_mitryalcohol shop? there's a term i've never heard before. :P00:58
mhallscunizi: which has outrageous selection and great pricing... it puts bevmo, riteaid, costco, and sams all to shame00:58
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: so i want to send you the text that is in the file00:58
try4cedoes any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??00:58
ryxxedskittle, that's why you're supposed to edit it00:58
mhalld_mitry: you homebrew yours? it's got to come from someplace ;)00:58
ryxxedi think you can use a GUI now00:58
ryxxedxorgserver -configure00:59
ryxxedor something like that00:59
ryxxedlet me check it up00:59
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: ok got it00:59
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: the code is in the file itself00:59
SkittleLinux18i'll run it00:59
ryxxeduh, go for it00:59
mhallwhat can you do to get a larger amount of kde4 color schemes and widget styles00:59
d_mitrywell, liquor store is what they say in america, according to music/films that i've heard/seen. i haven't seen any places that sell just alcohol here in england.01:00
ActionParsnipd_mitry: oddbins01:00
ActionParsnipd_mitry: im from UK01:00
mhalld_mitry: yeah i don't use standard vocabulary01:00
illissiusmhall: kde-look.org?01:00
SkittleLinux18alright, the code didn't do anything01:00
SkittleLinux18sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg01:00
SkittleLinux18that's the one i typed in01:00
scunizimhall, karl strauss is a san diego beer..01:00
d_mitryActionParsnip: ah, ok.01:00
mhallillissius: was hoping maybe there was some extras package or something01:00
ActionParsnipd_mitry: you been here long ?01:00
mhallscunizi: i'll have my room mate buy me some at christmas time01:01
tacidskyhow do i reset my plasma layout configuration to default?01:01
mhallscunizi: he's from LJ01:01
try4ceHello??01:01
try4cedoes any one know how to get X-Fi drivers working??01:01
illissiusmhall: aptitude search style | grep -i kde maybe?01:01
ActionParsniptry4ce: very painfully01:01
try4ceeeeew01:01
d_mitryActionParsnip: four and a half years. i'm not one to go around lookin' for booze, though, considering that i've been eighteen for just over a week.01:01
mhallillissius: yeah good call01:01
scunizimhall, he'll know it well.  If you go to the brewery they even sell it in 1 gallon glass jugs.01:01
try4ceI compiled the kernel and no errors...but no sound01:01
mhallscunizi: we have a place like that here too, beermann's01:01
ryxxedskittle : nothing at all?01:02
mhallscunizi: really fresh beer is impressively good01:02
illissiusmhall: yeah, seems KDE4 ones are prefixed kde4-01:02
illissiusnot many of them01:02
mhallscunizi: there's another one here called sudwerk01:02
ActionParsniptacidsky: cd ¬/.kde/share/config01:02
mhallscunizi: beermann's sells 24 packs for just over 1 dollar a bottle, not too bad01:02
try4ceAction--> any suggestions?01:02
ryxxedskittlelinux18 : read this to understand how to manually put in your resolution http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml01:03
mhallscunizi: the gallons can go bad kind of quick if you don't pound them down asap01:03
tacidskyActionParsnip , thanks :)01:03
ActionParsniptacidsky: you should see plasmarc , killall plasma, rename that file then rerun plasma01:03
scunizimhall, good beer is like good scotch... sips and company make the experience much better.01:03
mhallscunizi: true01:04
tacidskyActionParsnip: thank you, i'll try that when my update is done.01:04
mhallscunizi: i work at HP so it's pretty easy to find people that want to go drink beer01:04
try4ceAction--> any suggestions?01:04
ActionParsniptry4ce: http://ru.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=209&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Linux&region=3&Product_Name=X-Fi+Fatal1ty&Product_ID=14000&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=12&drivertype=0&x=26&y=1101:04
mhallscunizi: engineers and physicists are pretty good about that, and hp people are very relaxed mostly01:04
try4cethx01:05
ActionParsniptry4ce: you need to compile the driver for it01:05
try4ceI did that...w/ no errors01:06
try4ceand then installed it into the kernel...how do I know it's installed??01:06
ActionParsniptry4ce: thats all i know, i avoid creative. they dont know their ass from their elbow01:06
ActionParsniptry4ce: lsmod ill show you the drivers installed01:06
d_mitryso roughly how long would an upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 take?01:06
ActionParsnipd_mitry: depends how fast your connection is01:07
sgroi135How do i remove something from starting on boot? I installed Nepenthes and want to run from console and not in background.  I was able to kill the process and then start manually. but i dont want to do it like that Running 8.1001:07
d_mitryActionParsnip: installation only.01:07
KetrelDoes 8.10 fix the problem in 8.04 where I seem to have a choice between blank TTYs and The ability to logout without restarting x?01:07
illissiusd_mitry: weeks while you tear your hair out because it's not -ing working, I expect01:07
ActionParsnipd_mitry: shouldnt be more than an hour01:07
d_mitryillissius: heheh. i hope not.01:08
ActionParsnipd_mitry: if you have the cds to upgrade from01:08
d_mitryActionParsnip: hour and 35 minutes.01:08
illissiusi'd save /etc and /home and install 8.04 fresh, and then copy /home back (and use /etc as reference)01:08
try4cethx01:08
try4ceout01:08
SkittleLinux18ryxxed: ok, i ran through my file and made the neccesary changes. i'm going to reboot and see if it works. brb01:08
ryxxedjust restart x01:08
ryxxednever mind01:08
d_mitryActionParsnip: no, it's been downloaded. 1:35 to install so far, i mean.01:09
mhallhow can i decommision KDE4's alt-tab stuff01:09
mhallit's kind of irritating having everything pop out at me01:09
illissiusdesktop effects01:09
illissiusdunno what it's under. thankfully there's a searchbar :)01:09
illissiusso no one has any idea how to either make autologin work or at least find out -why- it's not working?01:10
ActionParsnipd_mitry: it varys from system to system01:11
ActionParsnipillissius: you could turn it off, then on in systemsettings01:11
d_mitryActionParsnip: of course. an hour sounds good to me. it looks like it'll finish soon.01:11
ryxxeduh01:12
ryxxedwhat nvidia driver version should i use again?01:12
ryxxed173 for smoothes?01:12
illissiusI'm pretty sure the problem is something to do with PAM01:12
ActionParsnipillissius: its worth a try01:12
illissiusunfortunately, I'm not sure if there's anyone in the world who understands how PAM works01:12
d_mitryActionParsnip: how long do you think an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 would take?01:14
illissiusActionParsnip: pretty sure i've tried it at some point...01:14
ActionParsnipd_mitry: similar, i'd imagine01:15
zyxwvutsrhi. I have a problem with my display resolution settings. I can't get anything above 640x480 even though my display is 1280x800. This happened after a reboot after I had adjusted my gamma settings, but it all worked great before that.01:15
illissiusd_mitry: wait, so do you have 6.06 or 8.04, and want 8.04 or 8.10? i'm confused01:15
zyxwvutsrit's a nvidia geforce 610001:16
d_mitryillissius: i want to upgrade twice. currently from 6.06 to 8.04.01:16
mhallalright so there is only one thing missing i can't find that i had in kcontrol01:16
mhalli am missing the thing which let me select my modifier key theme for KDE from a list01:17
ActionParsnip!nvidia | zyxwvutsr01:17
ubottuzyxwvutsr: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:17
mhallso i could get a sensible default keybinding setup01:17
illissiusoh. I see01:17
zyxwvutsrActionParsnip, I've already got the restricted driver installed01:18
ryxxedwell01:19
ryxxedkde 4.2 beta01:19
ryxxedhere i come01:19
ActionParsnipzyxwvutsr: i think you need to configure your xorg.conf01:19
d_mitrywoo. restart time.01:19
olskolircis there absolutely NO WAY for me to change my clock out of this stupid military time on kde4.1 intrepid?01:20
ActionParsnipzyxwvutsr: to use the new driver01:20
zyxwvutsrchanging the gamma would cause it to stop using the new driver?01:20
ActionParsnipzyxwvutsr: not sure01:21
mhalli have a similar problem to olskolirc, i cannot resize my clock to show all its text01:21
olskolircmy time says 20:21 instead of 8:21 I want it to say 8:2101:22
JontheEchidnaolskolirc: Sytem Settings -> REgional and Language -> Time01:25
JontheEchidnayou should be able to change the time format from there01:26
mhallhow do i reorder and rezied the widgets?01:26
mhalli cannot figure this out at all01:27
d_mitrywoohoo.01:28
ActionParsnipd_mitry: better?01:30
mhallok i think this is good enough for now01:31
mhalli'll have to play with kde4 more later01:31
d_mitryActionParsnip: 8.04 is lovely.01:31
ActionParsnipd_mitry: i like it too :)01:31
ryxxed!rs01:32
ubottuMolimo udjite u #ubuntu-rs za pomoc u vezi sa Ubuntuom na srpskom jeziku.01:32
d_mitrywhat is rs?01:32
ryxxedmy country's domain01:33
ryxxedserbia01:33
d_mitryoh. why not sr instead? :P01:33
ryxxed!sr01:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sr01:33
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ActionParsnip!serbia01:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about serbia01:35
d_mitry!ubuntu01:35
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Ubuntu comes with the GNOME interface. To install that from Kubuntu install the ubuntu-desktop package.01:35
d_mitryhmmmm01:35
d_mitry!computers01:36
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about computers01:36
d_mitrywoo01:36
ActionParsnip!coffee01:36
ubottucoffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering hot water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java01:36
ryxxedguess i'm gonna go resize my home01:36
d_mitrygetting another room?01:37
ryxxedclever01:37
ryxxedi mean /home/01:37
d_mitryi figured. ^_^01:37
ryxxedwoo, found my gparted bootable01:38
ryxxedbbl01:38
zackk101:39
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jdfellowi have what should be a simple question regarding kde 4.201:47
jdfellowi would like to add available partitions, dvds , drives to the desktop without going thru Dolphin how ?01:48
jdfellowit wont let me drag them01:48
mister-teause konquerer01:49
jdfellowcan you drag them from konqueror to the desktop?01:49
jdfelloweven unmounted partitions01:49
mister-teanever tried but you can01:50
jdfellowI have seen desktops on kde-look.org that have disk icons on the desktop wondered how they did that01:51
mister-teadon't know if you can do that with unmounted stuff01:51
jdfellowthe old kde allowed it01:52
jdfellowhow bout a widget ?01:52
ryxxedwhat are we talking about?01:53
Ketrelexactly how long should the media check take when?01:54
Ketrel*when checking the dvd prior to instlaling01:54
jdfellowthanks got to run01:57
nosrednaekimhey everyone01:57
ryxxedntfs-config for automounting, y/n?01:58
d_mitrynow i should sleep. thanks for the help and take care.01:59
andres1can anyone help me reset ubuntu02:00
ryxxedreset?02:00
andres1not reset but reinstall02:00
ryxxeduh, format the partition where ubuntu is and just install it there?02:01
ryxxedis that what you mean?02:01
andres1i dont know how to02:01
ryxxedhow did you install it in the first place02:01
andres1it came with it i never toch it i just dealt w it cuz it was a gift02:01
ryxxed!install02:02
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate02:02
nosrednaekimryxxed: ask the person who gave you the gift :P02:03
ryxxeduh, i'm not the guy reinstalling02:03
nosrednaekimmy bad.. worry :P02:04
andres1ok i do have the ubuntu cd02:04
Walzmynandres1 what exactly are you wanting to accomplish?02:04
andres1the problem is its a mini i have an external cd drive02:04
rayneIs Kubuntu better than Ubuntu? Can some one tell me some differences between the two?02:05
ryxxedthe GUI, for start02:05
nosrednaekim!kubuntu02:05
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE02:05
ryxxed!gnome | rayne02:05
ubotturayne: GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal.02:05
WalzmynKubuntu uses KDE instead of Gnome, and most likely the folks in here will say, yes, kubuntu is better02:05
ryxxed!kde | rayne02:05
rayne!kubuntu02:05
ubotturayne: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde402:05
andres1i tried goin to the bios to set up from there to reinstall but it wont do it02:05
Walzmynandres1, the external won't use the mini?02:06
rayneI have Kubuntu installed, for a gaming aspect, is Kubuntu any good?02:06
ryxxedlinux and gaming02:06
ryxxedBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA02:06
andres1wat im tryin to accomplish heris to  reisntall ubuntu02:06
Walzmynrayne, ubuntu and kubuntu use the same base packages, it's (mostly) just the desktop GUI that's different02:07
andres1i tryed runin the bios n run the cd from there but it doesnt do it02:07
Walzmynrayne, so for soemthing like that, no difference02:07
rayneOh, are they alright for gaming? I am installing WoW using WIne, should that be a good experience?02:07
Walzmynrayne, there are people that do it, but....02:08
rayne?02:08
Walzmynandres1, you'll need to tell the bios to boot via USB, I think02:08
andres1anyone?02:08
Walzmynandres1, Is there something broken on your machine? It might be easier to just work though the repos instead of starting over.02:08
ryxxedrayne : maybe, but don't get your hopes up, windows is far superior for gaming02:09
andres1i did i pluged the external cd drivee i set up the bios but it wont work for some reason02:09
Walzmynryxxed, rayne, well, not in and of itself, its just that they've got better drivers02:09
andres1now i lost most of my menus02:09
rayneThe reason for the switch is because my system seems to run so much smoother with Linux, so far I like it very much.02:09
ryxxedand directx02:09
andres1i only have  places and system02:10
ryxxedi like it a lot, but i like to game a lot, so i dual boot02:10
rayneCan I install Direct X using wine?02:10
ryxxedi think so02:10
andres1ive tryed doing an update but shows n error02:10
ryxxedbut you're gonna need some windows files02:10
rayneLike?02:10
ryxxedi don't know02:10
Walzmyn!wine | rayne02:11
ubotturayne: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help02:11
KetrelOff topic question: should I make my room smell like Honeysuckle or cupcakes02:11
andres1E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.02:11
andres1E: _cache->open() failed, please report.02:11
andres1thats what i get02:11
Walzmynrayne, i'm warning ya, that's going to be a frustating road trying to get stuff to work in wine02:11
WalzmynKetrel, cupcakes will make you hungry all the time02:11
rayneWhat;s a better emulator than wine?02:12
Ketrelhoneysuckle it is02:12
Walzmynrayne, dual booting02:12
andres1?02:13
ryxxedmost efficient way to automount ntfs?02:16
nosrednaekimryxxed: add it to your /etc/fstab02:17
rayneIs Linux gaining more popularity?02:17
KetrelHow long does the "calculating files to skip copying..." step take?02:18
rayneIt took a while on mine.02:18
Walzmynrayne, that depends on if you ask that on slashdot or on a MS blog02:18
ryxxedor how fat you are02:18
KetrelI've been at 15% for about 10 minutes now02:19
Ketrelyet it still moves02:19
Ketrelshould I stop and switch to text based?02:20
WalzmynKetrel, I had the same issues - turned out to be a dirty CD reader02:23
keresi have 8.10, is it possible to dual boot 8.4, i need 8.4 for compatability with an important application02:24
Walzmynkeres, hehe, this is linux - you can boot those two and one of ubuntu if you want02:27
keressweert02:28
keresbuh, no need to dual boot02:28
kereswhat is the major advantage of 8.10 over 8.4?02:28
Walzmynkeres, yer moving up to KDE4 from KDE 3.502:28
kereskde4, is that it?02:28
KetrelWalzmyn: of course after I ask, and as I reach for the power button, it works :p02:28
WalzmynI'm sure everything else got updated as well, but that's the primary difference02:29
keresWalzmyn, can you download ubuntu 8.4, then install kde4?02:29
keresor will it miss dependencies?02:29
WalzmynKetrel, always - my dad would always get a bolt loose with pliars just as I got to him with the wrench02:29
Walzmynkeres, you can. I'm on 8.4 and running a ton of KDE4 apps but still using KDE3.502:30
Walzmynkeres, what is the app you need compatability with?02:30
keresWalzmyn: netradiant02:31
Walzmynkeres, if you're on 8.4 and install KDE4 it installs the entire thing in a seperate location beside KDE3.5 - then you can choose which one you want when you log in02:31
keresWalzmyn: i do that with gnome and kde4 currently02:31
Walzmynkeres, /nod02:31
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Guest49832hey I'm using Ubuntu and want to add Kubuntu's repositories so that I can install amarok 2.0. Where can I find Kubuntu's repositories?02:59
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JontheEchidnaGuest49832: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.003:02
Guest49832JontheEchidna: "amarok-kde4" isn't a package in synaptic :(03:04
JontheEchidnastrange... did you update the package list after you added the repository?03:05
Guest49832JontheEchidna: yeah03:06
JontheEchidnaweird03:06
Guest49832I hit "reload" anyway03:06
* JontheEchidna wonders what sudo apt-get install sez03:06
Guest49832hm03:06
Guest49832so sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4 ?03:06
JontheEchidnayeah03:06
Guest49832weird... it's not complaining yet03:07
rayneI need some help with Nvidia, is anyone up to the challenge?03:07
rayne:)03:07
rayneI installed the drivers I found under add programs03:08
raynebut03:08
JontheEchidnathere's always the "but" :P03:08
rayneI get a funky message under the settings icon. It says "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. "03:08
rayneHow do I use it? lol03:09
JontheEchidnasudo nvidia-xconfig?03:09
rayneI would be eternally grateful!03:09
rayneIs that under the terminal?03:09
JontheEchidnayes03:09
rayneK trying that now03:09
rayneNothing happened.03:10
rayneAnyone have any other ideas?03:10
Guest49832JontheEchidna:  huzzah! Amarok 2 is running03:11
JontheEchidna:)03:11
JontheEchidnaweird why it didn't end up in synaptic... oh well03:11
Guest49832it didn't preserve my collection :(03:12
Guest49832lol03:12
Guest49832now it'll take a while to scan.03:12
JontheEchidnathere should be an import feature03:12
Guest49832where would I tell it to import from?03:13
Guest49832oh! hey that was easy.03:13
Guest49832nvm03:13
KetrelI just installed 8.1003:17
KetrelWhat happened to Synaptic?03:17
rayneI'm still having issues with Nvidia...can anyone explain this to me?03:18
KetrelAnyone, I can't seem to find any packages, and the nvidia drivers won't install03:21
tacidskyKetrel, that's weird. I just installed 8.10 on thursday, and I find packages03:22
tacidskytry apt-get updating ?03:22
KetrelI get packages listed, but when it trys to download them it just flashes by03:22
tacidskyhm thats weird.03:23
Ketrellemme try updating03:23
Ketrelperhaps it's not pointing to the right place03:23
Ketrelnow it's staying at 0% rather than flashing by, so that might be it03:24
Ketrelyeah, that was it03:24
tacidskyhm.03:24
Ketrelis synaptic available for this version, I hate adept03:25
ubuntu__is there a way to downgrade to kde 3.5.x in ibex?03:25
tacidskyjust use command line :)03:25
tacidskyI don't think 8.10 has support for 3.5.x03:25
ubuntu__kde 4 isnt ysable for me right now03:26
Ketrelme, it's staying at 88% <.<03:26
Ketrelas I click enter it goes to 9003:26
Ketrelhmmm, things are randomly crashing03:27
Ketrelthis time kmix with sig 603:27
tacidskyubuntu__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96369503:27
zhs?03:28
tacidskytry that thread ubuntu__03:29
ubuntu__thanks03:29
ubuntu__which program can I use to partition my disk in kubuntu?03:33
ubuntu__I'm used to gparted03:33
tacidskyubuntu__ command line or gui?03:33
uman_Anyone know how to connect to an L2TP over IPSEC vpn in ubuntu 8.10? Thanks03:34
ubuntu__gui plz03:34
tacidskyubuntu__ http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/03:35
tacidskyubuntu__ is that what you're looking for?03:39
ubuntu__tacidsky: cant install since Im on Kubuntu Kde4 live cd03:40
ubuntu__I want to create an extended partition03:40
tacidskytry fdisk ?03:41
ubuntu__lik sda3 -> sda4 ext3, sda 5 ext3, sda 6 swap03:41
ubuntu__I've never used03:41
tacidskytry http://www.freeos.com/articles/3935/03:42
tacidskythis looks better03:42
tacidskyhttp://lissot.net/partition/partition-05.html03:42
ubuntu__ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk /dev/sda03:42
ubuntu__Unable to open /dev/sda03:42
tacidskywhen on a live cd i think /dev/sda is the live cd.. im not sure though03:43
tacidskyid try   ##linux03:43
ubuntu__hm03:43
ubuntu__kubuntu didnt automount my other partitons03:44
ubuntu__:/03:44
ubuntu__thats strange03:44
ubuntu__kubuntu live cd03:44
dumbpoetNewb here, is there a / command for changing my nick?03:45
tacidskytype   /nick  nickname03:45
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hope4gorillaAwesome.03:45
hope4gorillaThanks03:46
tacidskyyep03:46
ubuntu__anyone?03:46
ubuntu__do I really have to boot in Ubuntu just to partition my disk?03:46
ubuntu__I mean03:46
ubuntu__...03:46
tacidskyubuntu__ goto ##linux and ask your questiomn03:47
hope4gorillaWhen I try to register my nick, why am I told that an email is not valid, when it clearly is?03:48
hope4gorillaAnyone here use tellico?03:50
tacidskyis that an ISP ?03:57
hope4gorillaHa, no.. it's a linux program that requires kde.. the only reason that I'm running kubuntu.04:00
hope4gorillaThough I agree it sounds like an ISP.04:00
tacidskyoh looks cool04:01
hope4gorillaI'm trying to figure out how to modify a python script for the program, but the python channel requires some kind of nickname registration that I can't figure out.04:02
hope4gorillaI plan to use it to manage my MP3 tags.04:03
tacidsky#python ?04:03
hope4gorillaKind of bends it's purpose.. but it has some features that I can't find elsewhere.04:03
tacidskydoesnt look like it has a registration,04:03
hope4gorilla"channel" "you need to be identified to join that channel"04:03
tacidskyoh, maybe because i am already registered. im an idiot.04:04
hope4gorillaHaha, it's cool.04:04
tacidskyum you could always use http://10minutemail.com/ to get an email there if yours isnt working04:05
hope4gorillaRight now I'm hung up on providing the email.. it doesn't like any of the 3 I've used so far.04:05
hope4gorillagmail, and 2 different .edu ones..04:05
tacidskyhm lame04:05
tacidskyoh man, i just connected to via SSH on my blackberry, so cool04:07
hope4gorillacrackberry.. mmm..04:08
tacidskyYeah I just got the storm04:08
hope4gorillaReally? is it an "iphone killer"?04:08
tacidskynever used an iPhone so i couldnt say. but I do enjoy it better than my old Motorola Q04:08
hope4gorillaI'm not really up on all this stuff, but some of my friends talk about it like it's a sport..04:09
tacidskytakes a bit getting used to the on screen keyboard though.04:10
tacidskydid you try the 10minute mail thing ?04:10
hope4gorillaI was going to try 1 more email that I remembered.. but I've lost the registration command04:10
tacidskyi think its just /msg nickserv register email password04:11
hope4gorillaI think I'm just going to go to bed for now.. but thanks for the help, have fun with your gadget :)04:12
tacidskyhave fun. Good luck with tellico04:12
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iloveoophello everybody~!04:42
iloveoopi'm new in irc04:43
iloveoopanybody there?04:43
iloveoophmm04:43
tacidskyhi04:44
tacidskyobject oriented programming?04:45
wangyantaohello04:46
tacidskyhi04:46
iloveoopyes04:48
iloveoopI'm C++ user in windows os04:48
iloveoopbut i'm using ubuntu now a days04:48
iloveoop^^04:48
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SmaulUnixAnyone alive?04:50
tacidskyI'm Still Alive04:50
iloveoopme too04:50
SmaulUnixsweet, I am somewhat of a noob to linux, I have 1 small question04:51
SmaulUnixin grub,  is there a code i can use to add line breaks between the boot options?04:51
tacidskywhy would you want line breaks?04:51
SmaulUnixi'm weird04:52
tacidskylol04:52
SmaulUnixi'm reading up and have not found anything that would allow that04:52
SmaulUnixi did get some neet colors going on though in grub lol04:52
tacidskynice04:52
tacidskyi've never dealt with grub, i either manually select which hard drive to boot, or its always worked perfectly for me04:53
SmaulUnixI got it dual booted with XP so it loads for me,04:53
SmaulUnixgrub that is,04:53
tacidskyI just select which hard drive to boot via the motherboards commands04:54
tacidskyits easy when you have three different sized hard drives.04:54
SmaulUnix but where it says Other Operating Systems i wanted to put spaces there to clean it up a little04:54
SmaulUnixSweet04:54
tacidskyhmm.04:54
tacidskyyou could just echo a blank line?04:54
SmaulUnixjust make 1 line saying echo  ?04:55
tacidskynaw04:55
tacidskylike a blank title line04:55
SmaulUnixah I tried that, you should see what that does lol04:55
tacidskylol whats it do ?04:55
SmaulUnixmakes all the options below it disappear and when you move the line you pick with the arrows it brings them back onto the screen04:56
SmaulUnixkind of weird, so it makes them like they are hidden04:56
tacidskyha nice04:57
SmaulUnixi havent been able to find anything on doing this in google, it is hard to search for04:57
SmaulUnixi dont think anyone really bothers to do it04:57
SmaulUnixor knows enough and just does it04:57
tacidskyhmm..04:58
tacidskyjust have title with a dor ?04:58
tacidskydot*04:58
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SmaulUnixthat would probably work too04:58
tacidskytry in #grub04:58
SmaulUnixNice didnt think of checking there lol04:59
SmaulUnixwhat irc client are you using?04:59
tacidskyxchat04:59
SmaulUnixah, i am trying out konversation04:59
SmaulUnixi use to use Xchat04:59
tacidskysudo apt-get install xchat nowwww :)04:59
tacidskyor pidgin05:00
SmaulUnixlol05:00
tacidskyno luck yet :(05:04
tacidskydid you try the    title            .05:04
tacidsky?05:04
SmaulUnixnah, not yet, dont wanna reboot to test05:04
SmaulUnixi am on the system now05:04
tacidskyreboot ill tell you if anyone responds in # grub ?05:06
KetrelWhat do you have to do to get mp3 support and other things like that in 8.10?05:06
tacidskyinstall the codecs?05:06
SmaulUnixalright thanks man,05:07
SmaulUnixbrb05:07
Ketrelisn't there something odd you have to do to even get the codecs?05:07
tacidskyhmm no idea. lemme try!05:08
tacidskyuse amarok05:09
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tacidskyno one responded yet smaul05:10
SmaulUnixthanks,05:10
tacidskydid it work?05:10
SmaulUnixdoing that replaced the line that says Other Operating Systems with the .05:10
tacidskyyah, Ketrel, just use amarok and then play an mp3 file, it will tell you to install the codecs, then it will install them and restart amarok05:11
tacidskySmaulUnix hm thats weird05:12
KetrelI don't have any mp3s handy I'm in synaptic trying to get everything setup05:12
SmaulUnixin my menu.lst i had this05:12
SmaulUnixtitle   .05:12
SmaulUnixtitle Other Operating Systems05:12
tacidskyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21151605:12
SmaulUnixand only the . showed on to the boot up05:12
tacidskythats a good solution!05:13
SmaulUnixhe has a better reason for doing it lol05:14
tacidskyaw hes so nice to his daddy.05:15
tacidskyso yah, do you understand what its doing?05:15
tacidskyits basically making a fake kernel and fake initrd, so it wont boot anything05:16
SmaulUnixya i may try it. Not a big deal really, just trynig to be different05:17
tacidskylol and just use \t for a title! lol05:17
ZehavaI installed kubuntu 8.10 from live CD, everything works great, until...I try to play a game and it says I don't have opengl 2.1.  which if I"m reading correctly is due to bad or not up to date nvidia drivers.05:18
ZehavaSo my question is how do I install nvidia drivers on kubuntu please?05:18
tacidskyZehava http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=install+nvidia+drivers+ubuntu+8.10&btnG=Google+Search&aq=1s&oq=install+nvidia+drivers+kubu05:19
NickPresta!nvidia | Zehava05:20
ubottuZehava: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:20
Zehavathanks05:20
qmrI'm on ubuntu 8.04, I need kioclient ... what pkg should I install?05:24
tacidskydoes the Twitter widget crash on anyone else?05:27
KetrelOther than using Amarok and doing it that way, how can you get mp3 and other non-free codec support?05:29
NickPresta!mp3 | Ketrel05:30
ubottuKetrel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:30
runpain2how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from05:32
Zehavahow can I shut down KDM with kde4? sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop    isn't working05:32
KetrelNickPresta: thanks, that's what I was looking for05:32
qmr!kioclient05:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kioclient05:33
tacidskywow knowing about that script would have been nice earlier :(05:34
romy28hi05:38
runpain2how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from05:42
runpain2Like in ubuntu ce a bible verse shows up on desktop when you loged in05:43
pulaskihello, is there a specific channel other than #apache2 on freenode for asking kubuntu apache2 confiuration questions?06:01
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runpain2how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from06:02
runpain2Like in ubuntu ce a bible verse shows up on desktop when you loged in06:02
runpain2is there an .xsessions any where where i can add the lines   #!/bin/bash   /usr/bin/clock06:04
dwidmannrunpain2: you could put a .desktop file in ~/.kde/Autostart06:07
dwidmannrunpain2: which could actually refer to a script to be run in a terminal ... least that's how I'd do it.06:08
runpain2how do i make the file please06:08
pulaskiCan I add an alias directive in /etc/apache2/htppd.conf so requests for files with a .php extension will, for example, be found in ~/public_html/php/index.php?06:09
dwidmannrunpain2: should be able to (in dolphin or konqueror) right click, create new -> link to application06:12
runpain2great but i only want the bible verses to show up not the shell that shows all the chooses06:14
tacidskymake a widget to do that?06:15
dwidmannrunpain2: erm, with graphical things the workaround with the script and terminal shouldn't usually be necessary06:17
runpain2i dont have option on right clik for creat new link only text or html06:18
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vbgunzI cannot set a shortcut key to launch ksnapshot... anyone know why?06:41
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tacidskyI have no idea why07:18
tacidskydoesnt printscreen bring it up?07:20
Neremorhello!07:20
Neremori've a question07:20
tacidskyhi907:21
tacidskyhi*07:21
Neremori gonna use compiz now but i don't know wich window manager and wich window decorator is the best...07:21
Neremorwhich one may you recommend?07:21
tacidskywhich ones have you used?07:21
Neremori'm on kde so i used kwin right now07:21
tacidskyits all preference. One person may say one thing, and another may say a different thing.07:22
Neremorbut i want one that is highly customizable...07:22
Neremori mean with your own skins07:22
tacidskyOh I've never tried skinning so I can't help you there07:22
Neremorfor wich one are the most skins written?07:22
Neremorhm07:22
Neremornp ;)07:23
tacidskycheck kde-look.org or gnome-look.org07:23
Neremori do but there are themes for many window decorators07:23
Neremori don't think i can use kwin as the window manager and compiz-decorator es window decorator, can i?07:24
Neremorok in kde-look the most skins are for beryl07:25
Neremorbut i think beryl is something like compiz but for gnome and not a real window manager?07:25
tacidskyi thought beryl and compiz joined?07:25
dr_willis!beryl07:25
ubottuBeryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz07:25
tacidskywoo I was right :)07:25
dr_willisBeryl is dead07:25
dr_willisand with the new features of kde 4 -  You may want to explore them instead of messign with compiz07:26
dr_willis:)07:26
tacidskyI'd wait until KDE4 was less buggy.. Its been a pain to me. :(07:26
tacidskyI remember my first experience with KDE4.. Some reason after every install the System fonts were HUGE, so i couldnt do anything and the windows were so small, it was very comical.07:27
andrew_Hello. Please help me with soundcard mess07:27
Neremori tried them07:27
Neremorand they are nice too :)07:28
andrew_A have Audigy 4 and on-board Realtek. I can not hear sound from the Audigy AUX input07:29
Neremori think i can use dekorator skins without compiz?07:29
tacidskyhey SmaulUnix did you ever figure out that thing you were doing with Grub ?07:29
andrew_And I can make only one call from skype. After it the skype displays problem with playback07:31
tacidskytry installing aumix ?07:32
andrew_that is aumux?07:33
andrew_sorry, what is07:33
tacidsky!aumix07:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about aumix07:33
tacidskynaw thats not what you want07:33
andrew_by the way which sound system should be installed, alsa or pulse auduo? Looks like I have both07:34
tacidskynever heard of pulse07:34
tacidskybut then again im not the best person to ask07:34
tacidskyask in ##linux07:34
andrew_ok, thanks07:34
andrew_and where is best place to ask about TV-tuners?07:35
mkquistandrew_: have you opened alsamixer and made sure all are up?07:35
dlew86anyone know how to get smb working in 8.1007:36
dlew86nvm07:36
andrew_mkquist: I do not have alsamixer. KMix does not fit?07:36
mkquistandrew_: thats right this is kubuntu...  not sure if they are the same, but I believe you can still open alsamixer07:39
andrew_mkquist: Ok, I'll install it now. I've just uninstalled pulse audio... Let me take a look07:40
mkquistandrew_: open a terminal and type alsamixer07:40
mkquistandrew_: have you checked out this yet? ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544907:41
andrew_mkquist: some text-mode app appears07:41
andrew_Colored as antique TMail :)07:42
mkquistandrew_: should be a box with sliders and color bars, use arrow key to go side to side and move sliders up/down...07:42
andrew_mkquist: I see six sliders. master, bass, tone show level about 50%  and PCM cent, front and LFE - 100%07:45
mkquistandrew_: might try moving them up/down and see if it makes a difference w/you sound problem.07:46
mkquist*your07:46
andrew_It shows Audigy 4 and SigmaTel STAC9750 by the top07:46
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tacidskyI KNEW YOU WERE ALIVE!07:48
andrew_mkquist: Yes, I can adjust volume in videoplayer from there. But after uninstalling pulseudio amarok becomes quiet again :( Looks like I must have both sound managers installed - alsa and pulse07:49
andrew_So I have at least two problems with sound: no sound from TV-tuner, attached to AUX on Audigy and persistent problem with skype, which is able to play test sound, but fail to make calls07:50
mkquistandrew_: i think you can change the driver in amarok to use another driver07:50
hyper_chJontheEchidna: are you online?07:51
andrew_mkquist: Yes, I've tried to switch amarok to alsa manually: no sound. It plays only via pulseaudio07:52
mkquistandrew_: hmm, well it was just a thought, cant say I've played around with amarok a whole lot...07:53
RandyCaliforniawhat do u need to know about amarok?07:53
andrew_Amarok? - It does not make sound via alsa07:54
RandyCalifornia[andrew_] go to settings ---> configure amarok07:55
RandyCaliforniaand click where it says "OSD"07:55
RandyCaliforniasorry,07:55
mkquistandrew_: might wanna restate your problems for RandyCalifornia...07:55
RandyCalifornia"ENGINE"07:55
andrew_Randy: Yes, I'm there. What to do next?07:56
RandyCaliforniaand change the device07:56
RandyCaliforniasorry, "OUTPUT PLUGIN"07:56
RandyCaliforniatry "OSS"07:56
andrew_Output plugin: alsa07:56
RandyCaliforniatry "oss"07:57
andrew_Done! No sound yet07:57
andrew_How the videoplayer managed to make sounds...07:58
andrew_I mean dragon player.07:58
vbgunzare there any themes that help make KDE3 mix in well with KDE4 yet?07:58
RandyCalifornia:S try another output07:59
andrew_Which one? I've just uninstalled pulse, so Amarock now crashes if pulse selected.08:00
andrew_There are these outputs: auto, pulse audio, alsa, oss, and file. That's it08:01
andrew_alsa and oss are silent as a fish. Via pulse it works if pulse installed.08:02
RandyCaliforniait should work with oss08:06
RandyCaliforniado u have xine installed?08:06
andrew_Yes08:07
andrew_As I've written before it works via pulse audio08:07
andrew_xine engine, not xine player08:08
andrew_looks like I have to reboot the system. I'll be back soon...08:11
RandyCaliforniaI'm out of ideas :S08:11
RandyCaliforniaok08:11
RandyCaliforniaso, does anyone here likes amarok?08:11
* _lumm does08:12
_lumm:p08:12
RandyCalifornia??08:13
RandyCalifornia:(08:13
RandyCalifornia:'(08:14
RandyCaliforniasup andrew_08:14
andrew_Hello again08:15
RandyCaliforniaI ran out of ideas08:15
RandyCaliforniadoes it work fine now?08:15
RandyCalifornia???08:15
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andrew_Randy: Unfortunately no.08:16
KubuntuOnIbookhave you tried xmms?08:16
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RandyCaliforniahave you tried xmms?08:16
andrew_And after reinstallation of pulse audio it fails too,08:16
RandyCalifornia:S08:16
andrew_Not yet.08:17
RandyCalifornialike, do you get a message or no sound is coming out of amarok?08:17
andrew_Not it says: xine is unable to initialize any audiodriver08:18
andrew_Whan I'm trying to switch it to pulse. And it still quiet when alsa is selected08:19
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andrew_sorry, for misstyping "When"08:19
RandyCaliforniaoss is quiet too, right??08:19
andrew_yes08:19
andrew_But kde plays windows effects, dragon player works08:20
RandyCaliforniawhen I get that message, I'm still able to play songs08:20
RandyCaliforniainstall Xine Player08:20
RandyCaliforniathe full player08:20
RandyCaliforniaand then restart x-server08:20
RandyCaliforniamake sure the audio driver on systems settings is selected "Auto"08:21
RandyCaliforniaor you just may use xmms08:21
andrew_Is the xine player able to work with collections, etc?08:21
RandyCaliforniano, but it may solve ur problem with amarok08:21
andrew_Ok, I'll try it a bit later. Now please help me with the updates. It says about 162 updates available, but fails to download them08:22
andrew_It worked for 15 minutes and downloaded many files, but then it failed. I've tried several times, changing the source server08:24
andrew_Any ideas about it08:24
andrew_?08:24
nuviashey if I have kubuntu 8.04 how do I upgrade to 8.10?08:24
hyper_chandrew_: what do you want to do?08:25
hyper_chnuvias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades/Kubuntu08:26
nuviasthx08:26
andrew_I've just permitted the auto-update to do its job and do not annoy me anymore. But it fails to update08:27
hyper_chandrew_: open the terminal and run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade08:27
hyper_chandrew_: and close synaptic and adept or whatever package manager you use08:27
andrew_So, I should not trust the auto-update applet which is sitting in the tray? If so, how to get rid of it?08:29
hyper_chandrew_: where did I say you should not trust it?08:29
andrew_sorry, you dont08:30
andrew_you didnt08:30
hyper_chandrew_: ;) running updates from the command line gives you feedback ;)08:31
hyper_chandrew_: whether it works and where problems might be08:31
andrew_Thnk you. I'll try it immediately after adept finishes current operation08:32
andrew_It takes some time...08:33
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andrew_Sorry for my troubling you again. How to get the KDE help search working?08:40
andrew_It searches only among a few manuals...08:41
piotreceqHow do I install an application with extension "tar.bz2"?08:42
RandyCalifornia??08:43
RandyCaliforniawhat the heck happened?08:43
RandyCalifornia??08:43
piotreceqidk08:43
wet wat is dis?!08:43
RandyCaliforniahey wet!08:43
RandyCaliforniaidk08:43
RandyCaliforniathat was weird08:44
andrew_tar -jxf <archive name>.tar.bz2 and then look for README or INSTALL there08:44
wet yeah08:44
piotreceqaha thx08:44
RandyCaliforniaI cannot install mplayer, totem, amsn08:44
RandyCalifornia:S08:44
RandyCaliforniait says it cannot fetch some archives08:44
RandyCaliforniaI already did a check and same thing is happening08:44
Ketreldoes KDE4 not have screensavers?08:45
Ketrel(lol netsplit)08:45
RandyCaliforniaidk08:45
eppandont your screen turn black when u leave it for a while?08:45
Ketreleppan: ye08:45
Ketrel*yes08:45
KetrelI see the screensaver area08:45
Ketrelthere' just nothing listed08:45
RandyCaliforniachange the screensaver in system settings08:45
Ketrelexcept for blank and random08:45
RandyCaliforniaor press "F2" and run "kcontrol"08:45
KetrelRandyCalifornia: I know where to change it, I just have none08:46
RandyCalifornia:S08:46
eppanKetrel: tried apt-cashe search screensaver | grep kde ?08:51
Ketreleppan I just remembered to do that :p08:54
KetrelWhy do screensavers such as "Flipscreen3d" never work?08:55
KetrelThey seem to use some stock image rather than the screen.08:56
macjason0607question .. if i make a folder that has mp3's into an iso .. can i just burn the iso to a cd and it will be an mp3 cd ?08:56
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eppanmacjason0607: that will work for my mp3 player...not sure about every player08:58
macjason0607hmm..08:58
macjason0607eppan, i want to make multiple cd's08:58
Ketrelmacjason0607: is your goal to just have a CD with mp3s on it or an audio cd?08:59
RandyCaliforniatotem won't install :S08:59
RandyCaliforniait says that the install is broken09:00
hyper_cheppan: it's cache09:01
eppanye,...typo.....cant tab commands in here :S09:02
andrew_Hello again09:02
dwidmann_macjason0607: yeah, or (easier), just add the files/folders you want in k3b and burn it as a data cd ... most things that can play mp3 cds will treat each folder as an album and provide functionality for switching albums09:04
nuviashey i've downloaded firefox but i must open it by some firefox script. i want to have it in internet tab or on desktop, how to do that?09:06
ryxxedmake a shortcut to the script, i don't get your situation completely?09:07
nuviasi have unpacked the tar.bz2 file into 'firefox' folder. i have a list of weird files in it. and there's a script called 'firefox'. it always starts installation,  but it doesn't install itself09:08
hyper_chnuvias: why do you "download" firefox?09:09
hyper_chnuvias: you should install it from the repos09:09
hyper_chnuvias: sudo apt-get install firefox09:09
nuviasahaa09:10
eppannuvias: do you have attributes and premissions sett correctly?09:10
hyper_chnuvias: (1) most of the software is available in the repositories09:10
nuviasi don't know, i am new in Kubuntu09:10
hyper_chnuvias: (2) you can add more repositories - if you trust them09:10
hyper_chnuvias: I'd urge you to have a read through here:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php09:11
eppannuvias: it is smart to stick to the repo's for installing programs in the beginning.09:11
nuviaskk09:11
KetrelDoes synclient and syndaemon exist for 8.10?09:14
hyper_chKetrel: what are they supposed to do?09:16
Ketrelmanage touchpad settings09:21
Ketrelanyway, another question, my xorg.conf in /etc/X11 looks very empty09:22
Ketrelis it in another place in 8.10?09:22
hyper_chKetrel: that's the new way how x11 is being handled....09:22
dr_willisX11 auto-configures most stuff these days09:23
KetrelWhere would the load statment for the synaptics driver be located?09:23
peabody_Does anyone here use news? I'm trying to find a good usenet client, and I have two simple requirements, nzb and ssl support. The program nzb SAYS it supports SSL, but it is riddled with bugs that the options interface won't close once opened, program crashes, and SSL is ONLY supported on port 443, not 119.09:23
KetrelI need to find the "Section "InputDevice""09:23
Ketreland add a line09:23
dr_willisKetrel,  for my laptops I dont need to mess with them.  I guess i could check my xorg.conf - but im pretty sure they are not listed in my machines09:24
dr_willisYou want to tweak the synaptics stuff?09:24
Ketreldr_willis in order to tweak it, I need to add a line09:25
peabody_I've tried KLibido, but it hangs on the first queue item, and it doesn't have SSL support, and it stops the queue after about 4 files saying there's a file IO error, but there's nothing wrong with my disk. The FAQ for klibido says to delete the queue and try again, but omg how fucking annoying is it to have to requeue your entire que every 5 files?09:25
Ketrelbut that whole section isn't in xorg.conf anymore09:25
KetrelI need to know where it is09:25
dr_willisKetrel,  if you find a example xorg with the lines you can add them all to it.09:25
peabody_I've tried wine + newleccher, which is what I'm used to but it won't install my newsleecher key under wine09:26
dr_williscut/paste the whole sexction - i think it will override any auto-detected settings09:26
Ketrelbut where is it now is my question09:26
peabody_Buehler?09:30
Ketreldr_willis: do you know where? (it's important because if I don't disable tapping, I always screw up by accidently brushing against it)09:30
KetrelI really want to avoid running a system wide grep :(09:31
MamarokKetrel: updatedb, then locate09:32
Ketrellocate WHAT09:32
KetrelI don't know what file it's in09:32
Mamaroklocate thepackageyouarelookingfor09:32
KetrelI'm not looking for a package09:32
Mamarokoh, then try apt-cache search09:32
KetrelI'm looking for a section in a config file09:32
MamarokKetrel: what are you looking for exactly?09:33
KetrelI need the InputDevice section from xorg.conf as I need to add a line to it, but that section no longer exists in what ever this new way is.09:33
gr8n0wnhi, all my online-games suddenly cant connect to the internet, it worked well before,any1 know what i can do to find the problem?09:34
KetrelIt has to be stored somewhere09:35
MamarokKetrel: why not add it then? you can override Xorg.conf with adding your personal settings09:36
KetrelBecause I don't know exactly WHAT to override09:37
Mamarokthe default settings have been removed from xorg.conf a while ago09:37
dr_willisKetrel,  I recall there being some synaptic 'tweak/tools' in the repos to allow disabling of  those settings09:37
MamarokKetrel: what laptop do you have?09:38
dr_willisI bet the ubuntu/kubuntu forums also discuss this Ketrel  - ive seen many people ask about it.. My own laptp has a 'off' button on the touchpad i normally leave it off.09:38
KetrelSony Vaio09:38
Ketreldr_willis: there ARE solutions09:38
Mamarokyou should have a shortcut on your laptop for disabling the touchpad then09:38
Mamaroklike FN with something, read the specs of your laptop09:38
KetrelI don't want to disable the touchpad09:38
KetrelI want to disable TAPPING09:38
Mamarokit's hardware driven, so no need to do thid in software09:38
KetrelI still use it as a mouse09:38
KetrelOk, let me start fresh.09:39
MamarokKetrel: depends on your acpi settings then, not sure you can change that, did you google for your particular laptop?09:39
KetrelI wish to disable tapping, I know the command to use "synclient TapButton1=009:39
dr_willisif you find an older xorg.conf via google. or in the forums. In theory you could cut./paste the whole section to the new minimal xorg.cnf. but i do not know what setting disables it..09:39
KetrelI did this PERFECTLY in 8.0409:39
dr_willisWith the latest xorg.conf the synaptic drivers have been radically changed. I dont think synclient works any more09:39
KetrelI just need to enable SHMConfig09:40
KetrelThat's all I need to do09:40
Ketrelbut I need to add it to a section in xorg that no longer exists09:40
KetrelIf synclient doesn't work, why would it be included in the install without me installing it?09:41
dr_willisGot your old xorg.conf handy?  You could in theory just use it...09:41
Ketrelall I wish to do is enable SHMConfig09:41
KetrelI know what to do from there09:41
dr_williscut/paste an example  Section "InputDevice"09:42
dr_willis   , to the end of the xorg.conf Might work.09:42
dr_willislike the ones shown at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=97542109:42
dr_willisperson at this ForumPost.. also just added options to the end  of his xorg.conf it seems...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5720757&postcount=1109:45
dr_willis!info gsynaptics09:47
ubottugsynaptics (source: gsynaptics): configuration tool for Synaptics touchpad driver of X server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.14-6 (intrepid), package size 39 kB, installed size 392 kB09:47
dr_willis!info ksynaptics09:47
ubottuPackage ksynaptics does not exist in intrepid09:47
dr_willisHmm.. the 'proper' way to enable SHMCOnfig seems to be documented at -->? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig09:48
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Ketreldr_willis: the person at the forum post did what I am TRYING to do09:51
KetrelNote how he added options to the InputDevice section, a section which is MISSING from mine09:52
Ketrelthe reason I can't add it is becasue I don't know what to put for some of them, such as device09:52
dr_willisYou cut/paste the WHOLE section from his notes to the end of the xorg.conf  - is what i am gathering from the forums.09:54
dr_willisas for specific options that are unknown.. i would say comment them out.. and let  X auto-set them09:54
KetrelOption"Device""/dev/psaux"09:55
Ketreleven that one09:55
Ketrelis my touch pad definitely /dev/psaux?09:55
dr_willisevery touchpad ive seen is /dev/psaux09:55
dr_willison 3 laptops...09:55
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MitsuoDeshoDeshohello, how do i define a vpn connection, i want to connect to my university's network10:08
dr_williscant say that ive ever used VPN sorry10:08
dr_willis!vpn10:08
ubottuFrom more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD10:08
dr_willisKDE might have some gui/front ends also..    but thats all i know on the topic10:09
MitsuoDeshoDeshothanks10:09
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Ketrelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig <---- that worked10:13
Ketreland as a result, I can use the synclient command10:13
Ketrelwhich also works now10:13
dr_willisAnd thats  Proberly the 'best' fix for the issue in 8.10 also10:14
eagles0513875!info curl10:14
ubottucurl (source: curl): Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS or FTP server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.18.2-1ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 204 kB, installed size 316 kB10:14
KetrelI guess I'll throw a shmconfig.fdi file on my flash drive10:14
eagles0513875!info libcurl310:21
ubottulibcurl3 (source: curl): Multi-protocol file transfer library (OpenSSL). In component main, is optional. Version 7.18.2-1ubuntu4 (intrepid), package size 214 kB, installed size 424 kB10:21
KetrelWhat's up with the tray icons getting messed up10:23
Ketrelthe non-kde ones10:23
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ubuntu__plz help. i have kubuntu 8.10 and running Compiz Fusion. When i switch something like "Bicubic Filter" on (in compiz) my system crashed and now i can't see graphic screen :( any suggestions? i'm from Live CD now10:34
nytehi, how can i insatll adobe flash player für firefox?10:35
ubuntu__how can i switch this to "off" or how can i disable Compiz at start up, to my native kubuntu10:35
ryxxeduh10:35
ryxxedjust remove the packages10:35
ryxxedactually, wait10:35
ryxxedif you reinstall them later, you'll still get the bicubic10:35
luedze#rpa10:36
ubuntu__ryxxed:  if i remove settings folder from my home folder?10:36
ryxxedyou could try it10:37
ryxxedexperiment10:37
stdinI'd recommend removing ~/.compizconfig/ to reset the config10:37
nyteanyone knows a german kubuntu help chat?10:39
eagles0513875ryxxed experimenting sometimes is recipe for disaster in linux world10:39
eagles0513875!de | nyte10:39
ubottunyte: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:39
nytety10:39
ryxxedyou can always just ctrl + alt + t10:39
eagles0513875nyte i thought i mis read that10:39
ryxxedfull screen terminal is awesome10:39
ubuntu__there is a folder named ".compiz" in my home folder10:40
ubuntu__delete that?10:40
webashow to unplugg ipod correctly.. if i unplug it..still i cant remove it10:41
dr_willisubuntu__,  you could move it.. :)10:41
dr_williswebas,  Huh?  You proberly want to unmount it  in the menus, or safely remove, or whatever terms they use these days.. first - then physcally unplug the device10:42
webasi want to safely remove whatever the word is :)10:42
dr_willisive seen the terms 'eject' 'safely remove' 'unmount' and others used in different GUI/Tools...10:43
dr_willisno idea what kde4 uses at this time10:43
andrew_Hello10:57
Mamarokhi10:59
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andrew_Help me please with my TV-tuner. Today I have installed updates and TV time has stopped displaying channels.11:02
MrOtaconHello. I wonder if someone can help me please. I have created a kai.desktop file to launch a program called Xlink Kai. Its executable is /usr/sbin/kaiengine. I have added my kai.desktop file (located in /usr/share/applications/kde4/) to a panel so i can quick launch it. However - the program must be run with root rights. It runs fine, if I enter the password, but i do not want to enter the password - i want it to run as11:02
MrOtaconroot, but not prompt for password. How do i do this?  I have tried to "sudo visudo" and added the line: "user    ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/kaiengine", but it still prompts for password11:02
andrew_RandyCalifornia: I won, My Amarok is working now!11:04
andrew_...after uninstalling pulseaudio and editing alsa.conf manually11:04
andrew_Does anybody have a working analog TV-tuner? Please help11:08
dr_willisMrOtacon,  you may want to reread/check some sudo tutoials - i think you can set up what you want  with the proper sudo options.   OR as a 'bad' way.. (not reccomended) , you could set the suid bit on the executable so every user can run it and that app runs as root.11:08
MrOtacondr_willis: How do i do that - i want every user to be able to access it without needing root rights11:09
dr_willisset the suid bit on the executable11:09
dr_willischmod +s /whatever/binary11:09
dr_willisthis could be considered a HUGE SECURITY risk11:09
dr_willisoh add a sudo to the front of that command line. :P11:10
MrOtaconty.. what are the major consequences of me doing this?11:11
dr_willisIf for example.. that program can launch a  terminal, or other tasks.. they WILL be running as root.. thus that program could delete/change/remove/ most anythying on the system11:12
MrOtaconahhh - ty... don't really want to do that. Lol11:13
MrOtaconthey have the ability to open a firefox window through the app... dont want them having root access in firefox11:14
dr_willisSUDO has a lot of features people dont ever try/learn/read about.. :) thers a lot more to it then just a command ya tack in front of 'root' commands11:14
MrOtacon:)11:14
dr_willisFirfox would be ran as root I belive..  actually you may want to double check that...11:14
dr_willisIm pretty sure it would be ran as root11:14
MrOtaconok - ty... I'm gonna go and read up on sudo properly11:14
MrOtaconthanks for help11:14
dr_willisi find varioud web sites with sudo config examples.. to be more clear then the docs/man pages at times11:15
ubuntu__i want to chat with my gmail account in kopete what should i do11:17
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nahyi want to chat with my gmail account in kopete what should i do11:18
nahydoesn't anybody help me?11:21
dr_willisI dont know enough about Kopete to tutor you on its usseage.. i wouls say check its docs...11:22
dr_willisIt may or may not be able to use gmail chat.11:22
nahythank you!11:23
hyper_chnahy: have some patience... nobody is paid here to help you11:23
dr_williswhch  of coruse.. should of been step 1 :)  - but People seem to forget about documetation these days11:24
nahyi know11:24
dr_willisIve never used the gmail chat stuff yet ..11:24
* dr_willis lives on IRC11:24
eagles0513875!jabber11:27
ubottujabber is a free and open source instant messaging protocol, unlike MSN and AIM. Supporting clients on Linux: Kopete (KDE), Pidgin (GNOME). For more info see http://www.jabber.org11:27
eagles0513875nahy i think thats the protocol u use for gtalk11:27
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nahywhen i want sign in it doesn't have gtalk option11:28
NallemanWhat is the best way to install Skype to a kubuntu system?11:29
dr_willisfrom medibuntu repos11:30
dr_willis!skype11:30
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto11:30
nahyi'm going to install pidgin and use it instead of kopete11:32
ryxxedpidgin is much better, yeah11:33
dr_willis!skype11:33
dr_willisdoh11:33
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KetrelWhat's up with the tray icons getting messed up in kde4, the seem to get corrupted, and go blank sometimes11:38
MamarokKetrel: you have a Nvidia card?11:40
hyper_chJontheEchidna: the KDE 4.2 PPA repo gives me this error:  http://phpfi.com/38827111:40
Mamarokhyper_ch: try to override it11:43
hyper_chMamarok: how?11:43
Mamarokhyper_ch: dpkg -i --force-overwrite and the adress of the kjots source on your computer_11:44
Mamarokhyper_ch: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kjots_4%3a4.1.80-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2_amd64.deb11:45
hyper_chMamarok: still this won't help with the packages itself11:45
Mamarokhyper_ch: it will install the kjots package, yes11:46
hyper_chMamarok: I know... kdepim also works without kjots11:46
hyper_chMamarok: but the problem lies in the packaged .deb files... I don't think I'm the only one who gets that :)11:46
Mamarokhyper_ch: and that error messages doesn't come from the ppa source11:46
hyper_chMamarok: from what then?11:47
Mamarokit's a packaging error, and it takes some time and manpower to repackage it, so be patient :)11:47
Mamarokhyper_ch: that's a dpkg message11:47
hyper_chMamarok: an error in the packages... isn't that what I said?11:47
Mamarokhm, yes :)11:48
hyper_chMamarok: :) well, I didn't know where else to post about this issue.... and apachelogger told me that JontheEchidna is the maintainer of the PPA KDE 4.2 repo11:48
Mamarokhyper_ch: I think he knows about that already, as others have posted the same errors here too11:49
hyper_chMamarok: ok :)11:49
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MamarokoO, new nightly builds :)11:52
hyper_chnighly builds?11:55
hyper_chMamarok: nightly builds?11:56
Mamarokhyper_ch: kde-nightly, the neon project11:56
hyper_chMamarok: are there also .deb files or all source?11:57
Mamarok!neon11:57
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon11:57
hyper_chMamarok: I currently use:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main11:58
hyper_chMamarok: maybe I should try neon11:58
Mamarokhyper_ch: it's more stable for me at least11:59
Mamarokbut it's alocal installation, doesn't touch your current kde11:59
Mamarokhyper_ch: install it then logout and login eith the Neon session12:00
Mamarok*with12:00
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hyper_chMamarok: gotta add this to my sources list generator :)12:01
KetrelMamarok, yes I have an nvidia card12:01
Ketrelit happened prior to drivers12:01
MamarokKetrel: that's happening here too, but is gone with the neon build, so maybe that plasma bug got fixed :)12:02
hyper_chMamarok: added :)12:03
Mamarokhyper_ch: :)12:04
Mamaroksure you will like it :)12:04
hyper_chI still need a html/css junkie :)12:04
hyper_chMamarok: you happen to know any?12:06
KetrelMamarok: neon build?12:06
Ketrelwait don't answer yet12:06
nuviashow can I check what version of Kubuntu I have?12:09
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=== Guest23144 is now known as exally
olskolirchey guys where do I go to learn how to make plasma themes please?12:11
exallywhere do i learn to be 1337 at ubuntu?12:11
exallyfuck it this geek shit doesn't suit me12:11
hyper_chexally: what does 1337 mean?12:11
exallygoodbye12:11
olskolirc#ubuntu exally12:11
Tm_Texally: son, no cursing12:12
exallyi can't even quit this application.... it justs stays there :(12:12
exallyi fail12:12
Tm_Thi funky12:13
olskolircps -u username exally and then kill the pid12:13
olskolirci use kill -9 and then the number but i heard -9 was not a good option to use all the time12:13
Tm_Tindeed12:14
olskolirchey guys where do I go to learn how to make plasma themes please?12:14
Tm_Tolskolirc: I'12:14
olskolirc?12:14
hyper_chany html/css guru in here that wants to give a try at cleaning up the most ugly website on the whole internet?12:14
Tm_TI'd say techbase.kde.org/Plasma12:14
olskolirclets see how ugly hyper_ch12:14
Tm_Tolskolirc: sorry, slipped enter12:14
olskolirclol12:14
hyper_cholskolirc: http://sourceslist.simplylinux.ch  --> I'm just not bothered for design... I just need functionality ;)12:15
olskolirctry #html12:15
olskolircoh im not clicking that12:15
hyper_ch^^12:15
olskolircive never heard of a ch extension12:15
Tm_T!ch12:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ch12:16
Tm_Thmmm (:)12:16
hyper_cholskolirc: I guess you haven't heard of a lot of extensions12:16
hyper_cholskolirc: you know what .dk is?12:16
Tm_Thyper_ch: denmark12:16
hyper_cholskolirc: or .es ?12:16
Tm_Thyper_ch: espana12:16
hyper_cholskolirc: .ce12:16
hyper_cholskolirc: .cr12:17
hyper_ch :)12:17
Tm_Thyper_ch: and this is slipping to offtopic (;)12:17
hyper_cholskolirc: but you don't know what .ch is :(12:17
KetrelOk, now you can tell me what neon build means :p12:17
Tm_T!neon | Ketrel12:17
ubottuKetrel: The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon12:17
hyper_ch!.ch12:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ch12:17
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olskolirc!clipper12:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about clipper12:18
olskolirc!ch12:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ch12:18
Ketreloh ack, I don't want to use that, I'll wait until it hits stable lol12:19
olskolirci was running kde4.2 and its awesome but too unstable i just lost my whole system behind it12:19
Tm_Tolskolirc: glad it all works fine here (:12:19
olskolircim still rebuilding12:19
hyper_cholskolirc: .ch --> Switzerland (confoederatio helvetica)12:20
olskolircmy plasma kept crashing12:20
olskolirc#html can help you hyper_ch12:20
hyper_cholskolirc: ^^12:20
Ketrelwhat version is in 8.10?12:20
olskolirckde4.1 Ketrel12:21
Ketrelah ok12:21
olskolircits stable12:21
Mamarokolskolirc: 4.1.3 I guess?12:21
olskolircbut you can't do much with the panels and other things we did in 3.5.  that all comes out in 4.2 stable realease in january12:21
olskolircyes i guess Mamarok12:21
fighterpilothi12:21
olskolirchi12:22
fighterpilotanybody have iluminated keyboad media-tech?12:22
fighterpiloti got a problem putting it to shine12:22
Mamaroknope, not me12:22
fighterpilotwhen X is not open, it works, when it is, id does not. the light starts when you press the scroll lock key? any ides?12:22
Mamarokfighterpilot: and not many others I'd say, as this is quite expensive stuff12:23
fighterpilotit is not. i got it as a gift :)12:23
kristinahi, how I disactivate the confirm logout dialog?12:24
fighterpiloti think you cannot kristina12:24
kristinafighterpilot: I did on my laptop, an option somewhere in system settings I think, but don't remember how :)12:25
fighterpilot kristinaoh, stupi dme12:26
fighterpilotgoto kcontrol>kde components>session manager12:26
kristinaah got it12:26
olskolircwhere do I go to learn how to make plasma themes?12:26
kristinasession manager12:27
fighterpilotyep12:27
fighterpilot:)12:27
kristinathanks anyhow fighterpilot :)12:27
fighterpilotnp kristina12:27
olskolircoh good theres another girl12:27
olskolirchi hi12:27
fighterpilotanyone knows how do i edit custom commands for a keyboard?12:27
olskolirci don't have a clue fighterpilot12:27
fighterpilotok12:28
jussi01!shortcuts | fighterpilot12:28
ubottufighterpilot: keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts12:28
olskolirc!plasma12:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about plasma12:28
olskolirc!plasmoids12:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about plasmoids12:29
olskolirc!plasmoid12:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about plasmoid12:29
hyper_ch!widget12:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about widget12:29
jussi01!botabuse > olskolirc12:29
ubottuolskolirc, please see my private message12:29
olskolirc!stupid12:29
ubottuThe only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.12:29
olskolirc!stupid |ubottu12:29
ubottuubottu: The only dumb or stupid question is the one not asked. Please do not tell people off for asking something, just because it seems simple or obvious -- we discourage this attitude in all our channels.12:29
jussi01olskolirc: please dont abuse the bot12:30
olskolircjussi01, where do i go to learn how to make plasma themes12:30
olskolirci looked all over the internet12:30
jussi01olskolirc: obviously not :D go to google, type: "how to make plasma themes" then click on the third one... ;)12:32
jussi01easy link: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/Plasma/Theme12:32
olskolircwow thanks jussi0112:34
jussi01no probs :D12:35
hyper_chMamarok: is the nightly amarok build submitting data to last fm?12:38
Mamarokhyper_ch: I don't know, I use SVN12:38
hyper_chMamarok: oh ok12:38
Mamarokbut then, as nightly is using SVN also, it should :)12:38
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nahyhi. i want to know if kubuntu 8.04 is long time support?12:42
hyper_chnahy: it is12:42
nahyok i just installed it and like it12:42
hyper_chnahy: any reason why you went for the LTS version and not current one?12:43
hyper_chMamarok: seems the nightly building is not submitting to last.fm... at least not to me12:43
nahybecause 8.10 doesn't match with my hardware12:43
Mamarokhyper_ch: it does, but only from the collection, not when you play streams12:43
hyper_chnahy: with what hardware?12:43
hyper_chMamarok: I play collections12:44
hyper_chMamarok: the PPA amarok 2 version did submit12:44
hyper_chMamarok: but not anymore12:44
nahyi think it's the problem with my graphic card12:44
hyper_chMamarok: http://www.lastfm.de/user/hyper_ch12:44
hyper_chnahy: what video card?12:44
nahyi have an onboard gfx12:44
hyper_chnahy: so have I :)12:44
hyper_chnahy: but what onboard do you have?12:44
hyper_chnahy: did you try 8.10?12:45
Mamarokhyper_ch: it does with SVN, so normally Nightly should as it's a svn snapshot12:45
nahyintel12:45
Mamaroknahy: that definitely works with Intrepid!12:45
nahyand i tried 8.1012:45
hyper_chMamarok: I don't get any error at all.. which is strange... so I don't even know if it tries to submit12:45
hyper_chnahy: intel should work on 8.1012:45
nahymy splash screen was freezing12:45
nahyat the very first use12:46
Mamarokhyper_ch: sometimes the last.fm server doesn't show your stas very fast, mybe wait another few minutes12:46
hyper_chMamarok: been waiting for half an hour already12:46
Mamaroknahy: disable desktop-effects12:46
hyper_chMamarok: and amarok 1 used to show in the bottom bar that it submits... I can't see that in amarok 2 anymore12:46
nahyi couldnt even sign in12:46
Mamaroklet's see if the bot knows something:12:46
Mamarok!intel12:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about intel12:46
nahyi couldnt even sign in12:47
Mamarokhyper_ch: no, it doesn't show12:47
Mamarokhyper_ch: take the Amarok discussion to #amarok, it's getting cluttered here :)12:47
hyper_chMamarok: :)12:47
nahyi have my intrepid at home and it works great but at work i use hardy12:48
Mamaroknahy: did you try to start wit a new .kde/ folder in your home?12:48
nahyi said my friend :i couldnt even sign in12:49
nahylog in12:49
nahyi meant12:49
Mamaroknahy: you mean no login on the command line possible?12:50
nahyoh no12:51
nahythere was but i didn't use it12:51
Mamarokthen something else is borked, that has nothing to do with your graphic card12:51
nahyok12:51
Mamaroknahy: you should run in failsafe mode to see what errors you get12:52
nahybut im cool with hardy12:52
Mamarokthen stay with hardy :)12:52
nahyi tried it and it said your x is damaged12:52
nahythumbs up12:52
Mamaroknahy: try reinstall teh Xorg drivers then12:53
Mamarok*the12:53
nahyaha12:53
nahysomething else: how can i use kopete to sign in to Gtalk12:53
nahy?12:54
webashello..can anyone tell me what the hell is going in adept :( im very dissapointed and frustrated... in adept i write example - amarok... to install it..and then i press apply changes.. and then adept downloads 100mb and installs who knows what :(12:54
jussi01nahy: have you set it to use gtalk? ie. in settings, accounts12:54
nahyoh no im gonna find it12:54
jussi01webas: first,calm down! :) then, tell me what exactly is the problem? that it installs a lot of stuff?12:55
webasyess..on intrepid new kde 4.1 official.. if i select to install for php or apache...or only one any program, it downloads always so much mb..100mb..70mb.. why? :D12:56
RurouniJonesPossibly because it is installing updates while it is at it12:57
jussi01webas: I suspect it is because apt is now set to install recommends as well12:57
RurouniJonesOr because it is downloading dependencies that the progra,m you requested ned12:57
RurouniJonesOr that12:57
webassecond thing.. if i want to refresh new list of all programs that adept offers..it downloads 10mb.. on old 3.5kde it downloads maybe 1mb.. i mean very fastly..i dont want to use so much bandwitch :|12:57
nahyjussi01: i couldnt find any gtalk in accounts sorry12:58
jussi01nahy: sorry, forgot to mention gtalk is jabber ;)12:59
nahyaha12:59
nahythanks12:59
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vlad_Привет всем!13:04
Soliloquialfor some reason, gtk-window-decorator is decorating my windows in kde. how do I get this back to default behavior?13:04
pmashohow do I create another user with su privelages.. there aint no checkbox like in ubuntu which says "admin the system" ?13:05
MamarokSoliloquial: system settings, appearance13:05
hyper_chpmasho: add him to the "admin" group13:05
nahythank you all bye13:06
Mamaroknahy: :)13:06
Tm_TSoliloquial: mkdir ~/.config/autostart/removed/ && mv ~/.config/autostart/* ~/.config/autostart/removed/13:07
Tm_TSoliloquial: logout ... login, see if it's fixed13:07
pmashohyper_ch: ta ;-)13:07
hyper_chpmasho: ta?13:08
pmashohyper_ch: thankyou, it worked13:09
hyper_chpmasho: :)13:09
Tm_TSoliloquial: let me know how did it go13:10
SoliloquialTm_T, thanks13:11
Tm_Tworked?13:11
SoliloquialI'll try that13:11
Tm_Tah13:11
Soliloquialthere's no such folder autostart13:12
olskolircplasma theme instructions talk a lot about svg.  what is svg?13:12
Soliloquialolskolirc: it's a vector image format using xml....you can make svgs in inkscape or by coding them by hand13:14
olskolirccreate an image and save as .svg Soliloquial ?13:14
webasanyone can tell me how to to make php-mysql-apache work in kubuntu? what to search in adept ? what to install?13:14
jussi01!lamp | webas13:15
ubottuwebas: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)13:15
webasthanks13:15
jussi01:)13:15
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olskolirci heard lamp wasn't cool to install13:15
Soliloquialolskolirc, you have to use a vector image editor to save svgs such as inkscape, but that will work13:16
jussi01olskolirc: the vector image editor in kde is called Karbon ;)13:16
Soliloquialok13:16
jussi01!info karbon13:16
ubottukarbon (source: koffice): a vector graphics application for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-6ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 951 kB, installed size 3364 kB13:16
olskolirci just downloaded that one too and krita.  how do I take a look at an svg file anyone?13:18
jussi01olskolirc: just open it with karbon or inksacpe13:19
stefanjrklbhello :)13:19
olskolircnevermind i got it13:19
jussi01hello stefanjrklb13:19
stefanjrklbI have question for some experience users of any distribution of linux:)13:19
jussi01!ask | stefanjrklb13:20
ubottustefanjrklb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:20
stefanjrklbdo you know some web sites for some new users13:20
stefanjrklb?13:20
stefanjrklbok, next time I will know that :)13:20
jussi01!docs | stefanjrklb13:21
ubottustefanjrklb: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com13:21
olskolircyou could try linuxcommand.org stefanjrklb13:22
stefanjrklbI will see :)13:22
webaswhen i sudo tasksel - select lamp server -.. i get error : aptitude failed (e100)13:23
hyper_chstefanjrklb: and also search for:   "fosswire linux cheat sheet"  and "fosswire ubuntu cheat sheet"13:23
webaswhy i cant --- sudo apt-get install apache2 ..any help? error is - "..couldnt lock administrator folder"13:26
webasE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) ||| E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?13:27
stefanjrklbthx guys :)13:27
sgroi135anyone here have any exp with Nepenthes>13:28
stefanjrklbI will help start useing Linux :)13:28
jussi01webas: do you have adept open?13:28
Mamarokwebas: are you running another instance of aptitude or adept or whatever apt-get frontend13:28
Mamarok?13:28
webasi closed everything..even log out'ed once13:28
jussi01!aptfix | webas13:28
ubottuwebas: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:28
webasthanks13:28
webaswell i was trying sudo tasksel install lamp-server but for 10mins it was at 0percent so i turned terminal off.. :)13:31
webasit always is on 0%13:32
bubuslt a tous13:32
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Soliloquialcan someone help me figure out why windows in kde are being decorated by gtk?13:38
yosiany indonesian here?13:52
bazhang!id13:53
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia13:53
eagles0513875ryxxed :)14:02
webashello is it possible somehow download all those apt-get programs i want to download.. but not to install just download..and put in cd or flash usb to offline pc to install same things?14:02
zhouren114:03
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Tm_Tzhouren: ok14:04
zhouren............14:04
jussi01!offline | webas14:10
ubottuwebas: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ (now with Intrepid support)14:10
murchadhWebas: Aptitude install -d14:12
webasah yes.. i got same help with -d only now i cant find where it saved14:12
murchadhwebas: /var/cache/apt/archives/14:13
ShaunRHow can I allow my user -rw access to another users account, for all future files? Chmod or Chown only does existent files, correct?14:14
ShaunRdoes it deal with "umask"or something14:14
ubuntu__hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu 8.10 but my menu.lst is empty (in fact there is only memtest)14:15
hyper_chShaunR: make him member of that other user's group14:16
hyper_chShaunR: and then set umask to give group write permissions14:16
kevinhello all... how can  I check to see if my computer  had recognized a new  web cam that I just plugged into a usb port? thanks!14:17
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hyper_chkevin: try to run it :)14:17
ShaunRhyber_ch: what do you mean, set umask to give group write permissions? If we're talking about the user i want to write to, it would be in it's own group, and would naturaly have -rw access to its own user space14:19
hyper_chShaunR: you need to make user2 also a member of he group of user1 and you need to set umask in such a way that new files will be created with group write access14:21
ShaunRhyber_ch: and user2 would be the one that wants to write to user1,correct?14:21
kevin actually............I wanted to see if the pc would recognize the camera so I could search for the driver. I know that it  does not work on kopete14:25
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kevinthere is a terminal command to search for plugged in devices, at least I think there is, but I do not know what it si14:26
jianghello everyone   i am coming....14:30
jiangis anybody here?14:31
Tm_T!anybody14:32
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?14:32
ubuntu__is kde 4.2 functional ?14:32
Tm_Tubuntu__: is here (:)14:33
ubuntu__?14:33
eagles0513875its still beta14:33
ubuntu__but functionnal or not ?14:33
eagles0513875wont be released till january if im not mistaken14:33
ubuntu__lol14:33
eagles0513875i dont know14:34
eagles0513875im using stable 4.1.314:34
ubuntu__because hardy, intrepid were stable in beta (for ubuntu)14:34
eagles0513875ubuntu__ i would ask in kde channel14:34
eagles0513875#kde14:35
murchadhkevin: lsusb14:35
ubuntu__ok14:35
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ShaunRhyper_ch: ?14:38
Mamarokrniamo: if you want a pretty stable snapshot of kde 4.2, use kde-nightly14:47
Mamarok!neon | rniamo14:47
ubotturniamo: The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon14:47
webashow to install same files in another pc..that i got from Aptitude install -d ?14:52
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kevinlsusb...thanks14:53
jiang_#ubuntu-cn14:55
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ZehavaI installed compiz-fusuion, or attempted to, through adepts gui and now when I login I get black screen, the desktop flashes for a moment, then it's black.  How can I uninstall compiz and it's components from command line please14:57
ryxxeddid you install all the dependencies?14:58
JontheEchidnasudo apt-get remove compiz14:58
Zehavaryxxed not sure if I got the dependencies or not, I used the package manager from teh gui, it installed what ever it selected.14:58
ZehavaJontheEchidna trying that now14:59
ryxxedsudo apt-get install  compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common14:59
ryxxedhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion14:59
Zehavatesting ryxxed will have to restart in a few, but ther were many of those I didn't have yet15:01
Zehavahow can I restart X from the console?15:01
ryxxedctrl + alt + backspace15:01
ryxxedoh15:01
ryxxedwait, never mind15:01
ShaunRto start it I think it'sjust 'startx'15:01
ShaunRor something15:01
DoubleD84I'm having some issues with power management. More so the fact that my monitor turns off every 15 minutes. I'm running KDE 3.5.10 and I've been using kPowerSave but the settings don't seem to change anything. i've tried modifying the monitor time out in kcontrol under peripherals but it won't let me change it, even under administrator mode. Anyone have any ideas?15:01
Zehavait shows my login screen fine, shows loading up fine, then flashes the desktop for a quick moment and screen goes black15:02
webasyou have radeon zehava ?15:03
Zehavanvidia  And everything on the vid has worked fine till I loaded compiz15:03
Zehavacrud15:04
ShaunRTo set it so every newly created file inside User 1 grants r/w/ex access to User2... Would I just ssh into User1 and then run 'umask 0000' to get permissions 777 on that entire userspace? I added User 2 to User1's group15:04
BluesKajhowdy15:06
graczyko loo15:12
ZehavaOkay, so installing all of that ryxxed, so I uninstalled all of it again and I still have a black desktop can't see anything15:13
ZehavaI can see my mouse...it moves around fine, but it's like there's a black layer over the desktop it's self15:14
ryxxedwell, it's not a dependancy issue then15:14
ryxxedmaybe you messed up the gui15:14
ryxxedtry reinstalling kde15:14
Zehavahow do I go about doing that?15:14
ZehavaI have kde415:14
michael_how in the world do i get the wired network to stay connected when i first start kubuntu15:17
Zehavamichael_ not sure, never had mine disconnect15:17
michael_well i have to tell the wireless network icon to go to wired everytime i log into kubuntu15:18
michael_and this something i don't care for, it should be connected the moment i log in without having to tell it15:19
Soliloquialwhat is the name of the kde window decorator?15:19
michael_i am using kubuntu 8.04 and the icon is knetwork manager15:20
ShaunRi thought it was just "Kde Window Decorator"15:20
ShaunRat least that's what the compiz-fusion icon says15:20
Tm_TKwin15:20
Tm_Tif you mean it15:20
Soliloquialyes, thank you15:21
michael_thats why i am not a linux user. its a nice operating system but it hate modems and sound cards15:21
ShaunRyeah but kwin is the window manager, they are not one in the same, are they?15:21
ShaunRmichael_: more like the modems and soundcards hate it15:22
hyper_chmichael_: it's not that linux hates those things.. it's like hardware manufacturer don't like linux15:22
michael_some help this channel is. giving me all the specs but what the problem15:22
lokys009http://pastie.org/338865 any help???15:22
michael_there is no way i am going to use kubuntu 8.1 it won't even save my screen resolution. 800x600 at 85hz15:23
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michael_its nice though i am not on dialup!!15:24
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michael_its stupid for a stupid dialup modems, that runs very slow the manufacterurs won't release the source code for those modems15:24
michael_yet the network cards use the sam basic chips  alot of them do and everyone works with linux15:25
eagles0513875michael_ are you using a winmodem15:25
michael_no no!! thats the last resort.15:25
webaswell..feel free to try mandriva or opensuse.. still its linux side..not windows :>15:25
michael_i am on dsl15:25
michael_so it converts to ethernet15:26
michael_if i was on dialup i would not be using no linux15:26
michael_because no linux that i tried support those old ancient things dialup modems15:26
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saliwhy if i have downloaded 2 different flash players i still can't view flash objects?15:27
michael_the only problem i am having with kubuntu is geting the wired network to stay connected when i first log into kubuntu15:27
michael_i tried to going into network settings and telling it auto start when computer starts but still no help15:29
michael_manually have to tell knetwork manager that i am using wired not wireless.15:29
Soliloquialhow can I stop compiz from trying to load at startup on kde?15:30
hyper_chI prefer WICD over knetwork manager15:30
michael_well that is what starts with kubuntu by default when i installed it15:31
michael_i wouldn't need to use no network managers at all because before i installed kubuntu 8.04 it defaulted to wired by default15:31
michael_now since i installed 8.04 i have to manually connect it everytime.15:32
michael_other then that no crashes with kubuntu15:32
michael_would there be any suggestions for this network problem or not.15:35
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salihow do i move files as a root?15:36
cumulus007sudo rm15:36
michael_you may want to start konqueror15:36
salihmm15:36
michael_kdesudo konqueror if you are using kubuntu15:37
michael_alt f2 to bring up run command15:37
michael_be extremely careful when using this as root, because you can delete files needed to help linux run right15:38
saliok15:38
salithe 3rd method helped me15:39
michael_you running kubuntu or ubuntu15:39
salik15:39
Mamaroksali: don't move files as root elsewhere than in your home folder15:39
Mamarokelse you might break your installation15:39
michael_i am running kubuntu because i like the kde interface, same thing as ubuntu15:40
michael_mamarok i had to move files as root, because there was so much junk starting so sometimes you don't have a choice15:41
Mamarokmichael_: hm, I don't have junk around here, running all the cleanups regularily as cron jobs15:41
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k25hi there, anyone from Poland?15:47
ubuntu__hello15:50
ubuntu__I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd15:50
ubuntu__I found a file15:50
ubuntu__in /etc/X11/xorg.conf15:50
ubuntu__but it's not it15:50
ubuntu__where is the real xorg configuration file?15:51
michael_you don't want to mess with that file xorg it is all auto controlled15:51
dennister_hey channel, flash is driving me nuts...anyone gota definitive fix?15:51
michael_what browser you running dennister15:51
SeanTaterSince ubuntu had everything pre-configured with my wifi - how do I know what driver I'm using (I'd like to try ad-hoc for fun)15:52
dennister_firefox...new install for someone else...flashplugin-nonfree doesn't install because of 404 error; tried adobeflash 10, too, doesn't work, and yet synaptic says these 2 are installed15:53
ubuntu__michael_: autocontrolled? and how can I get the xorg.conf itself?15:53
ubuntu__I cannot?15:53
kuruminOpa15:54
michael_copy the flash file directly into firefo/plugins15:55
webashow to test if mysql works fine ?15:55
michael_wherever you installed firefox to15:55
dennister_michael_: at the moment, I've purged both; when I type in about:plugins in firefox the only mention of flash is in libtotem-basic-plugin.so15:56
amerigohello15:56
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michael_ok where is your plugin directory, i can manually send you the files necessary so that it will work right15:57
michael_kubntu or ubuntu never did bother to install the drivers for playing media files or flash15:57
michael_so i copied them from my old vector linux and walla15:57
Tm_Terr15:57
Tm_T!mp3 | michael_15:57
ubottumichael_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats15:57
amerigoI got a problem installing kubuntu 8.04 on an old PC (300Mhz) ... on this I can see USB port... what it means?15:57
dennister_michael_: I have no idea on this machine :) new install, and i'm so used to flash 9 working i've forgotten where the directory is15:58
michael_i know, thats why before i installed this new kubuntu and messing trying to locate the plugins i copied them15:58
michael_and put them back into firefox/plugins and walla15:58
michael_because it is a bitch trying to find those driverw15:58
michael_until you know where the plugin directory is i cannot help you no further.15:59
michael_on my kubuntu my firefox/plugins is /opt/firefox/plugins15:59
michael_because i manually installed it there.15:59
Tm_Tmichael_: why can't you do it thru package manager?16:00
dennister_michael_: k...perhaps /usr...i'll search :)16:00
michael_because trust me i reinstalled ubuntu and those drivers should be included but they aren't trust me16:00
Tm_Tmichael_: no16:00
michael_i tried the same thing to using package manger16:00
michael_so instead of pissing around i took a little action ahead of time, copy the freakin drivers to a usb flash drive16:01
michael_i can send you all those plugins but before i can you just need to find the plugins thats all.16:01
michael_trust me i been with linux for while and by default those plugins are a pain to install. and trying locate the driver, they want you to compile them yourself, no thank you16:02
michael_you will catch on what i am trying to say soon if you think about it.16:03
michael_if you the plugins i can send them to you direct but you will have to locate the plugins.16:03
amerigoI got a problem installing kubuntu 8.04 on an old PC (300Mhz) ... on this I can see USB port... what it means? Perhaps ... on /proc/bus/usb there's no presence of any usb devices...16:04
amerigoi had to install driver for them manually16:04
amerigo???16:04
amerigoBIOS trouble?16:05
amerigoDriver missing....?16:05
amerigoHave some tips for me?16:05
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michael_were you able to locate the plugins TM_T16:06
webashow to test if mysql works fine ?16:06
olivier_!fr16:10
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:10
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michael_these are the plugins you need, put these in your plugins16:11
michael_no viruses because its linux not windows ehehe16:11
michael_i tried so no acceptence Tm screw it!!!16:13
DexterLBanybody home?16:15
hyper_chno16:16
michael_.............................16:16
DexterLBI'm having a problem with kttsd16:16
DexterLBafter porting to kde4 the filters don't work16:16
DexterLBanyone else have this bug?16:17
dennister_michael_: ok, the only mozilla plugins that are now installed (libjavaplugin.so) seem to be duplicated in /usr/lib/firefox and /usr/lib/mozilla...i do have an empty /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree directory...should i delete that empty directory?16:18
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DexterLBgrr16:18
michael_well i will send you the file and unzip these into your plugins and should have everything you need16:18
michael_i need to know are yo using firefox 3.0416:19
michael_or a older version16:19
hyper_chdennister_: kubuntu-restricted-extra installed?16:19
dennister_michael_: yes, 3.0416:19
michael_let me guess you, used the apt get install or do a  manual install16:20
michael_only reason i am asking because i did a manual install and giving you the specs before i can send the files16:20
michael_because /usr/lib and /usr/mozilla relate to a old firefox.16:21
ubuntu__I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd... where is written? in which file? it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:21
dennister_hyper_ch: actually, while i prefer kubuntu and this channel in particular, this new install is for a kid's xmas present, so it's ubuntu and edubuntu......firefox was therefore installed by default, and I've tried many ways of getting flash installed, apt-get, repositories, etc.16:21
michael_dennister could i make a simple suggestion, do a manual firefox 3.0416:22
michael_then i will give you the plugins and you don't have to mess around hunting.16:22
dennister_right now flash has been purged, and i was looking for support before i tried installing flash *again* for the 10th time16:22
michael_like install firefox to your home directory.16:22
captainbrailleHello, anyone else have a problem installing Amarok? I can't even get it to show up in my Adept list16:23
michael_i give up16:23
dennister_michael, so I should simply purge the default install of firefox?16:23
michael_go ahead16:23
ubuntu__I was looking for the xorg.conf in kubuntu live cd... where is written? in which file? it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:23
michael_and get the orignal file from firefox.com16:23
michael_unzip it and install it into a directory of your choice.16:24
michael_dennister_ you know how to make a icon for it or not16:24
dennister_michael_: yes, i think i remember how to make an icon16:25
dystopianrayis there an amarok 2.0 repo for 8.10?16:25
michael_ok :) don't worry you will be onyour way here soon dennister16:25
michael_just take it step at a time16:25
hyper_chdennister_: did you install then ubuntu-restricted-extra?16:26
rniamohi, i have no vmlinuz after an install from kubuntu iso16:26
hyper_chdystopianray: there is16:26
hyper_chdystopianray: wanna be bleeding edge amarok 2 or not so bleeding edge?16:26
michael_trust me hyper_ch i serach high and low for those plugins'16:26
dystopianrayhyper_ch: what's the difference? nightly build vs. release build?16:27
michael_i simply copied them from my old linus and don't have to piss around hunting them or compiling16:27
captainbrailleI tried "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" from the Kubuntu site, but when I 'fetch current package list' it doesn't appear16:27
hyper_chdystopianray: yes16:27
dennister_michael_: firefox has been uninstalled, although I'm sure there's still bits of it hanging around...16:27
hyper_chmichael_: flash is simple installed with ubuntu-restricted-extra and flashnonfreeplugin16:27
dystopianrayhyper_ch: I think the release build will suffice16:28
hyper_chdystopianray: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.016:28
dystopianrayhyper_ch: oh thanks, i was there earlier but didn't scroll down enough for the install instructions16:29
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jussi01captainbraille: where did you put that deb line?16:31
rniamowhere could i foind vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic16:32
captainbraillejussi01: 'edit software sources' clicked on 'Third-Party Software' tab, clicked on 'Add' and the box is checked16:32
Mamarokrniamo: you mean on your hard disk or in wich repository?16:35
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rniamoMamarok : on hard disk after installation16:37
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Mamarokrniamo: in /boot16:38
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rniamoMamarok : yes16:39
captainbraillejussi01: do you need a gpg key for the repository?16:40
rniamoi have only : abi-2.6.27-7-generic     System.map-2.6.27-7-generic config-2.6.27-7-generic  vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-7-generic memtest86+.bin16:40
agapitoquel'è la pagina in italiano?16:40
Mamarokrniamo: did you install it?16:40
Mamarok!it16:40
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:40
rniamoMamarok : i've install kubuntu16:41
rniamo8.1016:41
Mamarokagapito: ^^16:41
Mamarokrniamo: yes, but if you haven't installed that package you will not find it16:41
rniamoMamarok : normally it's not a package16:42
rniamoit's installed by default16:42
rniamoin fact the problem is that grub doesn't find kubuntu16:42
captainbrailledoes anyone know how to install Amarok 216:43
hyper_chcaptainbraille: waht release?16:43
Mamarokcaptainbraille: what is your distro version?16:43
Mamarokrniamo: that's weird indeed16:44
Mamarokrniamo: try to reinstall that kernel16:44
agapitomamarok ^^16:44
captainbraillekubuntu 8.1 - kde 4.1.3 - and I'm trying to install Amarok 2 from the Latest news on Kubuntu.org16:44
rniamomamarok : i tryed 3 times and now i have no mre cd :(16:45
hyper_chcaptainbraille: what latest version?16:45
Mamarokrniamo: cd?16:45
Mamarokdownload it on your system I mean16:46
rniamomamarok : i'm doing it16:46
Mamarokcaptainbraille: and what is your problem exactly?16:46
captainbrailleOn Kubuntu.org it says "Amarok 2.0 Released" and it gives some instructions and athis repo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" but when I Fetch current package list Amarok-kde4 doesn't appear in my list16:46
Mamarokrniamo: still don't understand your words: "now I have no more cd"16:46
Tm_Tcaptainbraille: it's amarok16:47
Tm_Tcaptainbraille: if I got it right16:47
amerigobye16:47
hyper_chcaptainbraille: and that's not the latest version16:47
captainbrailleTm_T: it's amarok?16:47
captainbraillehyper_ch: anything I should try then?16:48
rniamomamarok : i burn all my cd16:48
webasanyone noticed this am..bug? no sound at all.but then i turn of pc..the turn-off melody plays normaly.. strange16:48
hyper_chcaptainbraille: kubuntu 8.10 has no kde 3.x anymore16:48
hyper_chcaptainbraille: so I think it's all amarok16:48
Mamarokrniamo: what has burning CD's to do with the location of a kernel on your system?16:48
hyper_chcaptainbraille: well, there's the neon project that makes .debs from the nightly builds16:48
hyper_chcaptainbraille: that would be more up-to-date than the one you intend to add16:48
rniamomamarok : i can't burn another iso to try to reinstall it16:49
hyper_chcaptainbraille: although the one you intend to add is already a lot more up-to-date than the one delivered with kubuntu 8.1016:49
rniamomamarok : i'll try to reboot, see U16:49
Mamarokrniamo: does this system work?16:49
rniamomamarok : no, it doesn't boot16:49
Mamarokrniamo: why not try to reinstall from one of the previous CD's? you don't have to burn the same ISO over again IMHO16:49
captainbrailleso is it a problem with the repo?16:50
hyper_chthere is no problem16:50
hyper_chjust different versions16:50
dystopianrayamarok can't find any collection plugins and won't start, what's up with this?16:50
Mamarokhyper_ch: don't suggest people to use svn if there is a stable 2.0 available please16:50
hyper_chMamarok: he said something about the latest version16:51
Mamarokdystopianray: what collection plugins are you talking about? what version of Amarok, distro?16:51
Mamarokcaptainbraille: you want to install 2.0, no?16:51
dystopianrayMamarok: 8.10, amarok 2.0 from the ppa repo16:51
michael__i was helping osmeone here16:51
Mamarokdystopianray: where do you get that error?16:51
captainbrailleMamarok: Yes, 2.0 the same as the News from the Kubuntu website16:51
Mamarokcaptainbraille: did you remove your current Amarok?16:52
Mamarokcaptainbraille: the previous 1.4.x I mean16:52
dystopianrayMamarok: in a dialog as soon as I try to start amarok16:53
michael__no one should install firefox using apt-get with firefox because flash will not work!!!!16:53
captainbrailleMamarok: no I did not remove my current Amarok. I didn't yet because when I refresh my Package list Amarok-kde4 doesn't appear in my list.16:53
Mamarokhyper_ch: the package name of Amarok 2.0 is amarok-kde4 FYI16:53
dennister_michael__: glad to see ur back :)16:53
Mamarokcaptainbraille: did you check your sources.list if correct?16:53
dystopianraydo I only need to install the amarok-kde4 package or is there more to it?16:54
Mamarokdystopianray: did you bother to read the release notes?16:54
dystopianrayMamarok: yes16:54
michael__forget kde4 folks!!!16:54
dystopianrayMamarok: is there something i've missed?16:54
michael__it does not work worth the darn16:54
captainbrailleI added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" to my Third-Party Software tab, and fetched new, but I have not checked my sources.list, how do I check that?16:54
Mamarokdystopianray: you need mysql to build a collection16:55
dystopianrayMamarok: err, no you don't16:55
dystopianrayMamarok: amarok 2.0 uses mysql embedded16:55
* Mamarok is afk, brb16:55
Mamarokdystopianray: I know :)16:57
dystopianrayis there a gpg key for the ppa repo?16:58
jussi01no16:59
dystopianrayok16:59
Mamarokcaptainbraille: are you sure your package list did refresh? sometimes mirrors are broken17:00
dystopianrayah I figured out my problem, I accidently had the hardy repo set for intrepid17:01
captainbrailleIt goes by fast, and it looked like it says "failed"  if it's a broken mirror, what should I try instead?17:02
Mamarokcaptainbraille: you use Adept?17:02
captainbrailleMamarok: I do use adept17:02
Mamaroktry the main server: in the sources -> edit sources you can change on the lower right side17:03
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d_mitryhomie is back.17:04
captainbrailleMamarok: Alright, changed that, package list loading17:04
captainbrailleMamarok: Nothing, no package, thanks for the help though, =) Have a good day17:09
Mamarokhm, strange17:09
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MamarokR2-AFK2: please deactivate your automatic away messages!17:11
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Mamarokrickus: please deactivate your automatic away messages!17:19
Bouhello17:21
Boui'm trying to build kdebase from trunk17:21
Boubut get an error saying that phonon is missing,17:21
Bouyet phonon is installed (built from kdesupport)17:22
Boudoes someone have any clue about how to fix it?17:22
MamarokBou: you should ask on #kde-devel17:23
Bouok thanks17:23
mhallOK I have almost got things set up right in KDE4 but it hasn't been easy. I am only missing two things now. First, Alt-F1 refuses to launch my app menu. Second my digital clock is too small and won't resize, and I can't figure out how to get my taskbar panel to be double height like KDE 3 was.17:25
mhallThe Alt-F1 broken thing really drives me crazy17:26
jussi01mhall: try alt+f517:27
mhalljussi01: echoes control chars to my konsole17:27
mhallthus i don't think it's assigned to anything17:27
jussi01mhall: hrm, works with lancelot in 4.2 here - it opens the main lancelot menu wherever the mouse is17:27
mhallwhat is lancelot?17:28
jussi01its an alternate menu17:29
jussi01!info plasmoid-lancelot17:29
ubottuplasmoid-lancelot (source: plasmoid-lancelot): An alternative launcher menu plasmoid for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3~svn860641-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 536 kB, installed size 1508 kB17:29
mhallthis sucks17:30
mhalli *really* need this to work17:30
jussi01mhall: try lancelot - its well worth it imho17:31
Mamarokmhall: works here17:31
Mamarokand I didn't have to tweak things at all17:32
Mamarokmhall: what version of KDE4 you talk about?17:33
mhallwhatever shipped with intrepid17:33
mhalli think it worked at first then quit after i had perfected my plasmoid layout17:34
mhallnow i can't figure out why it quit working17:34
Mamarokthat will be 4.1.2 then, or did you update your system?17:34
mhallMamarok: no funny business... just used standard stuff17:34
Mamarokmhall: well, you probably broke it yourself, as it works out of the box17:34
mhallMamarok: although i'm willing to use another version if it's considered safe and better17:34
mhallMamarok: maybe so but how do i unbreak it? ;-)17:34
Mamarokmhall: upgrade to 4.1.317:34
Mamarokand I can't tell, don't know what else you tweaked :)17:35
mhallMamarok: has some improvements?17:35
Mamarokor else, use kde-nightly, works best for me17:35
mhallMamarok: what apt repo do i use to get it?17:35
Mamarok!neaon | mhall17:35
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about neaon17:35
Mamarok!neon | mhall17:35
ubottumhall: The Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon17:35
mhalland what do you do to get 4.1.3?17:36
mhallmaybe i'll try that first since it's not a scary trunk release17:36
Mamarokmhall: check the kubuntu.org website17:36
mhallok17:36
jussi01mhall: Id suggest you go to 4.2 in the experimental repo, as detailed on the kubuntu.org page17:36
Mamarokjussi01: bold move, kde 4.2 is not stable at all, plasma eats the CPU with big regularity17:37
Mamarokmhall: if you need a productive setup, don't use 4.2 other than with the neon packages17:38
jussi01Mamarok: curious, Im running it here with minimal issues. however, it is totally up to him of course.17:38
mhallyeah i don't want anything which eats CPU... this is a laptop install17:38
mhallit's a beefy laptop but i don't want to toast the batteries17:38
jussi01mhall: if it is a production machine, really keep to the official stuff - 4.1.317:38
mhalljussi01: nah not production17:39
mhalljussi01: i have like three laptops17:39
jussi01mhall: ok then. Im running 4.2 from the experimental repos with minimal probs on my lappy here. take that howeever you like ;)17:39
mhallinteresting... it appears i have 4.1.3 already17:40
mhallprobably because i have the backports repo available17:40
jussi01mhall: yeah, 4.1.3 is in backports17:40
zoranhello all :) I want to sync my iphone with ubuntu 8.04 with no luck. I tried gtkpod with no succsess. Can someone help?17:40
zoranwant to connect via usb17:40
mhalllet me trying moving aside my KDE dir17:41
jussi01zoran: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone17:41
michael__kubuntu and ubuntu still won't install those plugins by default what is the deal????17:42
jussi01michael__: which plugins?17:43
michael__for firefox17:43
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jussi01michael__: again, which plugins?17:43
michael__thats ok i got them from my old linux install and copied them directly and walla17:43
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michael__plugins like adobe flash and mplayer17:43
AdolaE: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.17:44
AdolaCan someone please help me with this?!17:44
jussi01michael__: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package17:44
michael__so seems like they want me to compile the mplayer plugin17:44
zoranyes. but the link to jailbraking doesnt work. Im stuck. can someone help?17:45
jussi01zoran: I cant help, but a quick google search on "jailbreak iphone" reveals some good stuff ;)17:46
michael__no thats ok , ubuntu has been a pain so i copied them directly and walla no problem17:46
Guest71602is 4.2 alot faster than 4.1?17:46
zoranokay, thanks!17:46
AdolaCan someone please help me with thsi?!/17:47
MamarokAdola: with what?17:47
Adola E: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.17:47
AdolaI can't install anything untill this is fixed.17:47
Mamarokhm, you must have misstyped something there17:47
Mamarokyou mean kubuntu-extras?17:48
AdolaNo.17:48
stdinAdola: you need to remove the package then17:48
AdolaHow?17:48
stdinwith dpkg17:48
stdinsudo dpkg --remove kubxtra17:48
* Mamarok wonders what package that would be, never heard of17:49
Adolasudo dpkg --remove kubxtra17:49
AdolaSorry17:49
Adoladpkg: error processing kubxtra (--remove):17:49
Adola Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should17:49
Adola reinstall it before attempting a removal.17:49
Adola(I got it from kde-apps.org.17:49
MamarokAdola: then17:49
Adolayes mamarok?17:50
Mamaroktry reinstalling it from kde-apps..org, or do you have a package locally17:51
Mamarok?17:51
AdolaI have it locally17:51
eagles0513875hi Adola and Mamarok17:51
Mamaroksry, keys sometimes stuck17:51
stdinAdola: so reinstall it17:51
Mamarokhi eagles051387517:51
AdolaOk.17:51
Mamarokhm, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite locationPathOfKubxtra17:52
AdolaI did, and, GDeb crahes everytime17:52
stdindon't use gdebi, use dpkg17:52
zer0ohi guys: everytime i rename a file in a folder with other files the all folder kind of flicks a bit and it takes 2 seconds to make all the files re-appear, plus it starts back from the top of the folder and it's annoying cuz then i have to scroll down till the renamed file to rename the next one, is there a way to avoid that? how does it work? thanks17:52
AdolaI'm not sure where kubxtra would be.17:52
MamarokAdola: you might have to retrieve another copy then, maybe something went wrong when you downloaded it17:52
AdolaOk.  i'll try again17:53
Mamarokzer0o: could you say this again, but easier? what package did you use for renaming? Command line?17:53
ncfi1013what is an iso17:54
Adolahttp://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/17:54
tacidsky!iso17:54
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.17:54
tacidskyIs there a way to fix a problem I have in KDE4.1 that when ever I restart my computer, my Widgets reset.17:54
Mamarokncfi1013: an image you use to burn a CD17:54
AdolaIt still crashes17:54
zer0oMamarok: simply Dolphin17:54
MamarokAdola: could you give me the link to that package?17:54
mrpistolwassup17:54
Adolahttp://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/17:55
mrpistollong live ubuntu 8.10 mofokas!!17:55
mrpistolperfect deskop17:55
ncfi1013mamarok how do you use it to burn a disc17:55
Mamarokncfi1013: with a burning tool like k3b17:55
tacidskyhttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/15/how-to-burn-an-iso-image-in-3-clicks-cd-or-dvd/17:55
AdolaI am running Intrepid if that counts.17:55
stdinAdola: how are you trying to install it?17:56
AdolaI double clicked it.17:56
AdolaAnd, I tried dpkg.17:56
stdinuse dpkg.17:56
AdolaAnd that failed17:56
ncfi1013mamarok i have that. do i unpack it or something? i have never used an iso.17:56
stdinwhat dpkg command did you use?17:56
mrpistoli made touch screen and fingerprint reader work with HP TX1420CA :)17:56
Adolasudo dpkg -i17:56
MamarokAdola: there are instructions on that website, why not follow them?17:56
AdolaI did.17:56
Guest71602stdin: dam were have you been hiding:)17:57
mrpistolanyone owns a Tablet pc from HP??17:57
Mamarokncfi1013: no, what do you want to do with this iso? do you habe k3b installed?17:57
stdinAdola: try "sudo dpkg --force-all -i /path/to/the.deb"17:57
Guest71602mrpistol: write a help page @ help.ubuntu.com17:57
Adolaok.17:58
AdolaSo.17:58
AdolaI would put.17:58
Adola"sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubextra984523745.deb17:59
Guest71602isnt kubxtra a really dodgy package to use?17:59
stdinmrpistol: open K3B from KMenu -> Multimedia -> K3b and choose Tools -> Burn ... Image (either "CD" or "DVD ISO"17:59
ncfi1013first download it, then burn it to disc. i saw the link that tacidsky posted and it is so much easier than i anticipated. thanks guys.17:59
stdinAdola: yes, try that17:59
Mamarokncfi1013: you need to run k3b, then choose "burn CD image"18:00
Mamarokstdin: you are adressing the wrong person I fear :)18:00
ncfi1013yes i have k3b installed mamarok18:00
zer0oMamarok: i use Dolphin18:00
mrpistolLONG LIVE HP TX1420CA WITH UBUNTU 8.10 :)18:00
stdinMamarok: so I see :p18:00
Guest71602mrpistol: did it work after installing just the os?18:01
Mamarokzer0o: hm, still did not understand what your problem is, could you rephrase it please?18:01
ncfi1013mamarok that's after i've downloaded it?18:01
Mamarokncfi1013: well, yes, an iso is only usefull to make CDs or DVDs :)18:01
Adoladpkg: error processing /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386.deb (--install):18:01
Adola cannot access archive: No such file or directory18:01
AdolaErrors were encountered while processing:18:01
Adola /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386.deb18:01
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$18:01
ncfi1013where in k3b is 'burn cd image' located mamarok?18:03
AdolaWhat is the command to show the files in the folder in the terminal?18:03
MamarokAdola: I'm not sure that this package will be of much use, installing the kubuntu-extras with Adept would have been easier I think18:03
Mamarokncfi1013: look at the buttons at the bottom18:03
ncfi1013nevermind found it18:03
DaSkreechAdola: ls18:03
Adolamamarok: yeah, I agree  But, I just need to get rid of it now so I can do ANYTHING.18:03
Guest71602Adola: that happens if there is a "%" in the file name18:03
ncfi1013all of my buttons are at the top mamarok18:04
Mamarokncfi1013: ok, just a different version of k3b then, works the same way :)18:04
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb18:04
Adolabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('18:04
AdolaWHY DOES UBUNTU HATE ME.18:04
MamarokAdola: no, it doesn't :)18:04
zer0oMamarok: i want to rename some files in a folder right? so I open this folder with Dolphin, click on a file, rename it. After pressing "enter" to rename it, all the files in the folder flick a bit, and then desappear for about 2 secs. When they re-appear, i'm not in the same spot of that folder (where was the file i renamed) but im back to the top, so i have to scroll down till that renamed file to rename the next one after it... and it's18:05
zer0oannoying! In WinXp when you rename a file and press enter it's done in less than one sec and the folder doesn't move back to the top, the selection remain on that file so that you can easily select the one right undearneath it and rename it if you want, got it now?18:05
ncfi1013ok thanks mamarok, tacidsky18:05
Mamarokyou just shouldn't install things form the outside :)18:05
DaSkreechAdola: What are you trying to do?18:05
tacidskyncfi1013, no problem18:05
stdinAdola: use quotes: sudo dpkg --force-all -i "/home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"18:05
AdolaJust remove this kubxtra package18:05
Mamarokzer0o: well, this is not XP as you can see ;)18:05
ncfi1013what color are you when i type your names, tacidsky, mamarok?18:06
ncfi1013mines red18:06
DaSkreechzer0o: Known bug It's fixed already18:06
zer0oMamarok: yes but apparently XP was better18:06
Mamarokzer0o: just tried to rename a file with my Dolphine, it worked without flickering, might be related to your version?18:06
Mamarokzer0o: no, not better, different maybe18:06
tacidskyew konversation ncfi1013 ? Use Xchat :) and i am red18:06
zer0oDaSkreech: tell me about it please18:06
Adola.....18:06
DaSkreechzer0o: It works fine here. I'm on KDE 4.218:07
zer0oMamarok: then i have to fix that bug DaSkreech is talking about :D18:07
zer0oim on kde318:07
DaSkreechzer0o: It's fixed already18:07
zer0oon kde3?18:07
DaSkreechzer0o: Oh Dear :) umm maybe next release18:07
Mamarokzer0o: well, that's the problem, we mostly are using kde4 here... and there it's fixed18:07
AdolaIt didn't work.18:07
DaSkreechtacidsky: What's ewww about konversation ?18:07
MamarokAdola: just remove the package?18:07
zer0oDaSkreech: what distro are you using?18:07
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-all -i /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb18:07
Adolabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('18:07
DaSkreechzer0o: Kubuntu18:07
Adoladpkg: unknown option -/18:08
stdinAdola: use quotes: sudo dpkg --force-all -i "/home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"18:08
AdolaSorry, I did.18:08
DaSkreechAdola: What are you tryng to do?18:08
tacidskyDaSkreech, I never liked it, I always install pidgin and xchat.18:08
AdolaI pasted the wrong thing.18:08
zer0oDaSkreech: yes which version?18:08
stdinAdola: make sure you typed it correctly18:08
AdolaI'm just rying to get Kubextra's out of here.  I can't install anything because I get an error concerning it.18:08
DaSkreechtacidsky: I think that much is obvious :) what don't you like about it?18:08
stdinAdola: maybe you missed a space18:08
DaSkreechAdola: how did you try to install it?18:08
Mamarokzer0o: I think he uses 8.10, like me18:08
AdolaI first double clicked the .deb.18:09
AdolaThen, that didn't work  So, I tried the dpkg way18:09
MamarokAdola: did you change the permissions of the file?18:09
zer0ogot it, so you think intrepid ibex is better than hardy? and it works better?18:09
DaSkreechAdola: Where did you get the dpkg from ?18:09
Adolawww.kde-apps.org18:09
DaSkreechzer0o: Don't know about that :)18:09
Mamarokzer0o: it's not about being better, it's newer, yes, and with KDE4 which is different18:09
tacidskyI just dont like the rabs at the bottom18:09
Adolahttp://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/18:09
ramanhelp18:10
ramanh18:10
DaSkreechzer0o: If you like KDE3 then stay on hardy otherwise KDE4 is quite nice18:10
tacidskytabs* and I know that you can change them, i just like xchat better18:10
Mamaroktacidsky: could you take discussions to -offtopic please? this is a support channel18:10
zer0oyou're telling me is not kde4 (beta) any more but is a stable release?18:10
DaSkreechtacidsky: Tabs I assume. I don't have tabs and the channels turn up over there <-------18:10
ramanmore of a gnome user18:11
ramanstarted kde one week back18:11
ramanoh sorry18:11
DaSkreechzer0o: That depends on you I suppose.18:11
Mamarokzer0o: Intrepid uses currently kde 4.1.2, and if you are a beginner you shouldn't try it, but wait for Jaunty18:11
DaSkreechraman: That's great but what do you want help with?18:11
ramancan anyone  help me on how to ask help18:11
Mamarokraman: be specific on what you need help for18:12
AdolaI looked in .list and couldn't find kubextra18:12
DaSkreechraman: From us you just ask from a program F1 might help18:12
zer0oim not a beginner any more :D but on my hardy if i wanted to try kde4 it would be the beta version, since i havent checked about ibex i was just wondering if they finally realesed a stable version of kde418:12
zer0oand i guess thats how it is18:13
Mamarokzer0o: KDE 4.1.2 is stable, yes, but doesn't have all the features kde 4.2 will have18:13
zer0ogot it, and when is it coming out?18:13
DaSkreechzer0o: Again it depends on you. I've been using ot for a while and it works fine more my needs. Some people still have things that don't work as well for them as it did in KDE3 so it's beta for them18:13
zer0owhen is it going to be realesed? du know?18:13
Mamarokkde 4.2 will be released at the end of January, and Jaunty is planned for April18:13
zer0ogot it18:14
DaSkreechThough if you read the topic ... :-)18:14
AdolaNothing is working18:15
zer0odoesnt say much :D18:15
Mamarokzer0o: if you choose to use KDE 4.1.2 (4.1.3 in the backports) just don't complain but help with bug fixing18:15
DaSkreechAdola: What does kubuntu extras do?18:15
MamarokAdola: why not try dpkg --purge yourpackage?18:16
AdolaIt supposedly installs things kubuntu beginers need18:16
DaSkreechzer0o: Dolphin is very different in KDE4 and KDE318:16
DaSkreechraman_: Hi18:16
AdolaMamarok.  Could you please god walk me through that.18:16
DaSkreechAdola: I assume you tried sudo apt-get -f install18:16
AdolaI'm on dial up normally.  But, today, I'm a t a friends house.  And, this ismy one chance for a while to get stuff I need.And I can't install ANYTHING untill I fix this.18:16
Adoladaskreech :  no, I didn't.18:17
DaSkreechAdola: Try that18:18
MamarokAdola: well, type sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /pathtoyourpackage18:18
MamarokDaSkreech: it's broken, so apt-get will not work18:18
DaSkreechah right of course18:18
DaSkreechAdola: Do what Mamarok said18:19
Adolasudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb"18:19
AdolaIs this correct?18:19
Mamarokyes, without the " at the end, unless it's in the package name18:19
DaSkreechWhere did that " come from ?18:19
stdinbecause the name needs quoting, it has '(' and ')'18:20
Mamarokraman_: please ask in this channel, do not query!18:20
stdinand add a space between options18:20
Mamarokstdin: not with the command I gave him I'd say18:21
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386(2).deb18:21
Adolabash: syntax error near unexpected token `('18:21
stdinMamarok: bash doesn't like '(' and ')'18:21
AdolaThis is getting depressing.18:21
DaSkreechAdola: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386\(2\).deb18:21
Mamarokhm, rename the package?18:21
stdinwell, it does like it, but for it's own purposes18:22
DaSkreechAdola: use that ^^^18:22
Adoladpkg: need an action option18:22
stdinneeds --remove probably18:22
DaSkreechAdola: huh What you did you just put in?18:22
Mamarokraman_: stop querying me, aske in this channel!!!18:22
DaSkreechraman_: Just ask your question here18:23
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq /home/adam/kubxtra-8.04-7-hardy.i386\(2\).deb18:23
Mamarokor --purge18:23
DaSkreechraman_: The more people see it the more can help. It also helps to train other people18:23
MamarokAdola: try adding --remove after the --force-remove-reinstreq18:23
Adoladpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names ofthe files they come in18:24
AdolaI'm sorry you guys.  But, I am fairly new to linux and...Gah, this makes life so hard.18:24
MamarokAdola: we will find out, don't worry, that's what we are here for :)18:25
Adola:D  Thanks.18:25
stdinok just "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra"18:25
DaSkreechraman_: Just ask your question here18:25
AdolaUmm, can I paste the output of stdin said.18:26
Adola!pastebit18:26
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebit18:26
Adola!pastebin18:26
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)18:26
Adolahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/85251/18:27
Mamarokhm, that looks not nice :(18:27
Adolao.O18:28
MamarokAdola: ?18:28
AdolaSo...Does anyone one have any idea?!18:29
Mamarokoh, missunderstood your "o.O" for a positive exclamation, sry Adola18:29
AdolaIt's ok.18:29
DaSkreechHa ha18:29
Mamarokhm, lets see what else man dpkg gives us18:29
stdinhmm, you need to edit that prerm script18:31
Adola?18:31
DaSkreechAdola: What error do you get on installing it?18:31
AdolaOn installing kubextra?18:31
DaSkreechYes18:32
marc_I'm new to Kubuntu. I've used debian previously, and have upgraded to 8.10. I believe I'm running the 32bit version, however it's picking my AMD 6000+ up as 1.8ghz. (rather than 3.1, x2 of course). Is this a Kubuntu issue, or a Kernel issue?18:32
marc_running kernel 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP18:32
Adolahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/85254/18:33
DaSkreechmarc_: cat /proc/cpuinfo to see how the Kernel sees the CPU18:33
DaSkreechmarc_: More info than you care about but it's the best way to see what the Kernel is seeing18:34
stdinAdola: type "sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubxtra.postrm" and add a new line with "exit 0" right under "#!/bin/bash"18:35
marc_yep, i've done that... 1800mhz is 'mhz'. sorta guessed it was probably kernel, but didn't want to rule kubuntu out. (being new, n all.)18:35
stdinAdola: and never install a package from a complete moron again18:35
stdinwhat sort of idiot would call konsole from a dpkg script!18:35
Mamarokstdin: +118:35
stdinand what sort if insane idiotic moron would use it to do "konsole --real-transparency --vt_sz 1x1 --nomenubar --noframe --noscrollbar --notabbar --notoolbar -e rm $HOME/Desktop/kubxtra.desktop"18:36
marc_I'm guessing that I'm installing latest kernel, from scratch?18:36
DaSkreechmarc_: Well the kernel is provided by Kubuntu so ... it could still be :)18:36
marc_or oes Adept give me choices?18:36
Adola#!/bin/bash18:36
Adolaexit 018:36
Adolakonsole --real-transparency --vt_sz 1x1 --nomenubar --noframe --noscrollbar --n$18:36
AdolaDoes that look good?18:36
DaSkreechAdola: be careful of where you install things from is the lesson18:37
blablacan i recover a ext2 file system? i have a acer aspire one and since i pressed suspend to disk there is no /dev/mmcblkp1 just /dev/mmcblk and its unmountable18:37
Adolayes, most certainly18:37
DaSkreechmarc_: What do you mean from scratch?18:37
Mamarokstdin: check his package site at Google....http://code.google.com/p/kubxtra/18:37
stdinAdola: yes18:37
marc_kernel.org, and start manually.18:37
DaSkreechblabla: possibly18:37
stdinMamarok: I'm already filing an "Issue" there18:37
Mamarokstdin: good!18:37
stdinand trying not so use too many curse words18:37
blablaDaSkreech: do you know how?18:38
stdinSummary: You're a moron!18:38
stdinsteps to reproduce: install the package18:38
DaSkreechmarc_: Oh dear no. Kubuntu gives a wide range of Kernel choices. Try the generic kernel it should do a best autodetect or if you lilke the AMD kernel18:38
Mamarokmarc_: why would you do this?18:38
marc_I am running the generic kernel. It's not cooperating as well as I'd have hoped, at least with the CPU18:39
DaSkreechMamarok: He's new to Kubuntu. He was just asking if Kubuntu only offered one kernel to install18:39
marc_Mamarok: It's not picking the cpu up correctly, and in tern I have a slow system18:39
marc_turn*18:39
Mamarokmarc_: maybe it's an acpi setting tuning down your CPU18:39
marc_hmm..18:39
marc_on 8.04 it detected it at 1000mhz, 8.10 detected it at 1800mhz18:40
marc_konversation's 'sysinfo' still reads, or did at last check, 1000mhz18:40
Adola:/18:40
AdolaIt....Still differnt work.18:40
AdolaDidn't.18:40
Mamarokmarc_: if some power saving settings is activated18:41
DaSkreechmarc_: Konversation is on KDE318:41
marc_ok, that explains that.18:41
DaSkreechraman_: Still need help ?18:41
marc_this is 4 now, innit?18:41
DaSkreechYou can run KDE4 apps in KDE3 and KDE3 apps in KDE418:42
DaSkreechKonversation is an example of that18:42
marc_hmm... ok i'll reboot, login to cmos and fiddle with 'power saving' settings. if that fails, where do i go to, to install a new kernel? pref. amd version18:42
AdolaAPT Error. Context:18:43
Adola    Package download failed,18:43
Adola    I wasn't able to locate file for the kubxtra package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.,18:43
stdinis that from "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra" ?18:43
Mamarokmarc_: you might try the AMD kernel form the repos18:43
blablaDaSkreech: do you know how? i have no backup and want to have my data back :(18:43
Adolastdin that's from me trying to install Gimp using Adept18:43
marc_ok, so using apt in terminal?18:43
dsmith_how does one arrange the desktop icons on 8.10?18:44
DaSkreechmarc_: open adept and scoll down to the section that says linux18:44
sourcemaker!home entertainment18:44
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:44
Mamarokmarc_: well, yes, or from a package manager like aptitude or Adept18:44
stdinAdola: then it looks like it's still installed18:44
sourcemaker!entertainment18:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about entertainment18:44
DaSkreechblabla: How did you lose the partition ?18:44
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AdolaIt's still installed....18:44
Adola...I really.  really need this fixed.18:45
DaSkreechAdola: We are working on it :)18:45
marc_ok i'll have a play before harassing you kind people again.18:45
marc_Thanks guys.18:45
DaSkreechsure18:46
AdolaYes, I appreciate it.18:46
DaSkreechAdola: what happens if you type sudo remove --purge kubxtra ?18:47
blablaDaSkreech: on acer aspire one suspend to disk does not work correctly and i pressed on the suspend to disk button but without intention and now there is no /dev/mmcblkp1 any more18:47
josephis it possible to get ktorrent to stay in its own virtual desktop when loading a torrent from a website?18:47
Adolasudo: remove: command not found18:48
DaSkreechblabla: so what happened when you came out of suspend?18:48
josephinstead of stealing the focus and coming to the active virtual desktop i mean18:48
DaSkreechThe computer crashed ?18:48
DaSkreechAdola: Argh sudo apt-get remove etc etc18:48
AdolaE: The package kubxtra needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive forit.]18:49
blablaDaSkreech: it shut down directly(but normal shutdown), after i rebooted it /home was not mounted, because /dev/mmcblkp1 was away18:49
DaSkreechblabla: can you install and open gparted18:49
DaSkreechIt should tell you the raw partitions I think18:50
Adola...18:50
AdolaNothing.18:50
* stdin becomes lost for words and horrified at that package18:50
stdinit'd EVIL18:50
ASCEhey there. what are the basic commands to install from a .tar.bz2 file. i cant remember them. i remember /make and /make install18:51
AdolaWhere can I find this..Is there a list that has kubxtra apended toit?18:51
DaSkreechIsn't there a way to just drop that package and rebuild the apt-database ?18:51
stdinwhy did this person think they had the intelligence do do this?18:51
DaSkreechASCE: You can't install from a tar.bz2 only extract list and add to it18:51
DaSkreechstdin: Should be interesting to find out if they submitted it to kubuntu and what the comments where18:52
DaSkreechhow did they test it ?18:52
stdinAdola: did the command "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra"  work? did it say anything?18:52
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra18:52
Adoladpkg - warning, overriding problem because --force enabled:18:52
Adola Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should18:52
stdinDaSkreech: trust me, it wouldn't get past our QC18:52
Adola reinstall it before attempting a removal.18:52
Adola(Reading database ... 161804 files and directories currently installed.)18:52
AdolaRemoving kubxtra ...18:52
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$18:52
blablaDaSkreech: is there also a command line tool wich shows raw partitions? because kde crashes since there is no /home direcory18:52
DaSkreechblabla: parted but that's hard to use18:53
DaSkreechblabla: Does X work ?18:53
blablayes18:53
blablaDaSkreech: yes, but after i login kde restarts and shows the login thing again18:54
stdinDaSkreech: the "application" runs "konsole --vt_sz 65x2 --nomenubar --notabbar --notoolbar --noframe --noscrollbar -T Install_depends_kubxtra -e sudo dpkg -E -i /opt/kubxtra/depends/(several debs here)" for a start18:54
MamarokAdola: did it just end there, removing... and then show the prompt?18:54
stdinI'm stunned!18:54
stdinit's pure dumb18:54
AdolaYes.18:54
AdolaEnd.18:54
DaSkreechMamarok: Probably would. It has a exit 0 in it so no errors at all18:55
giuseppe_during boot phase it appears "Activatinf swapfile ... FAILED - What can I do?18:55
blablaDaSkreech: i think i am able to use parted18:55
DaSkreechWe just said to put that in the remove script18:55
Mamarokoh, yes, forgot that one18:55
AdolaShould i remove the "exit 0"?  and try again?18:55
MamarokAdola: no, don't think it will help18:56
DaSkreechblabla: Ok well list the partitions. If you need stronger tools look at testdisk18:56
DaSkreechblabla: It's in the repos that for sure looks at raw discs and does recovery18:56
Mamarokstdin: we should tear this chap into this channel by his ears to repair the damage he did18:56
AdolaPlease do.18:57
stdinthe more I look at this "package", the more I'm just horrified18:57
AdolaOk.18:57
AdolaProgress18:57
AdolaI removed the "exit 0" and got this18:57
Adolasudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/kubxtra.postrm18:57
AdolaSorry18:57
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove kubxtra18:58
Adoladpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kubxtra, only the config18:58
Adola files of which are on the system.  Use --purge to remove them too.18:58
Adolaadam@adam-desktop:~$18:58
stdinso it's removed now18:58
AdolaIs it?18:58
AdolaI'm not sure.18:58
AdolaDEAR GOD18:59
AdolaIT WORKED18:59
AdolaOMG18:59
stdin"ignoring request to remove kubxtra, only the config files of which are on the system"18:59
MamarokAdola: :)18:59
Mamarokgreat!!!18:59
AdolaWAIT18:59
otavio_oi18:59
AdolaOnly one TRUE way to find out.18:59
otavio_oi pessoal18:59
* Adola passes out18:59
DaSkreech!br18:59
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.18:59
AdolaIt...It seems to be working now.  No more "Blahlbahlbah, I hate you Adam and I also hate kubextra"19:00
DaSkreechwhat??19:00
DaSkreechIt should hate kubxtra19:00
AdolaGimp is now downloading...(Which it wouldn't allow before)19:00
DaSkreechThat needs fixing19:00
DaSkreechhard code it if needed19:00
DaSkreechstdin: What's the status of the "official" KDE3 for Ibex ?19:01
Mamarokwe should give out a warning to all users not to touch this package19:01
AdolaIt worked...Thank you gusy so so so much.  I appreciate it so much19:01
MamarokAdola: you have been very patient, thank you too :)19:01
stdinDaSkreech: it's kind of stalled at the moment, we don't have too many people volunteering to package it19:01
giuseppe_hi all, during boot phase I read this message "Activating swapfile swap [FAILED]" - What can I do to solve it?19:01
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DaSkreechstdin: Raise the visibilty a little ?19:02
AdolaWow, if19:02
CiRuXhola19:02
Adolawow, if only I could donate some money ;D19:02
DaSkreechAdola: Umm. Wait you can't?19:02
AdolaThank you Mamarok, thank you Daskreech, thank you Stdin19:02
* DaSkreech rescinds his help!!!19:02
DaSkreechX-D19:03
MamarokAdola: you are welcome :)19:03
stdinDaSkreech: ask about in -devel for the latest on it. I haven't really kept up-to-date with it19:03
stdinI'm going to compose one hell of an "issue" report and send off an email to the author. I would normally try not to sound patronising to them, but for an idiot like this the only way not so sound patronising is not to say anything19:05
Mamarokstdin: you can sign with my name too if you want, that's just pure hell19:06
AdolaAhh, thanks you guys!  Doing the good work by complaining!19:06
Adola....Another super hard question....19:06
AdolaOn Adept..i searched AmaroK....Is "2:1.4.10" the same things as AmaroK 2?  Or is it just AmaroK 1.4?19:07
stdinI bet this person learnt some kommander script and though "oh, I'll make something kool!!!1 LOL"19:07
MamarokAdola: no, its 1.4.10,19:07
DaSkreechAdola: 1.4.119:07
AdolaOk.19:07
DaSkreech1019:07
blablaDaSkreech: testdisk just detects /dev/sda but not /dev/mmc.. but parted detected the ext2 file system on /dev/mmc...19:07
AdolaI have AmaroK 2.19:07
AdolaI was just wondering if an update was already out.19:07
MamarokAdola: no, it just came out last week, be patient :)19:07
DaSkreechblabla: ok but it's not in /dev ?19:08
AdolaOk!19:08
DaSkreechAdola: an update? it just came out like two days ago19:08
AdolaAHAHAH, That's why I was like "WTF?"19:08
DaSkreechOr recently :-) I've been a little distracted :)19:08
MamarokAdola: but bugfixing patches will come out soon, will be named 2.0.1 I think19:08
AdolaOk.19:09
MamarokDaSkreech: you talk about 2.0 release, do you?19:09
AdolaDo any of you use Kopete?19:09
blabla/dev/mmcblk0 is in /dev but not /dev/mmcblk0 wich was the original partition19:09
DaSkreechMamarok: yes19:09
AdolaBecause, still, AmaroK 2 doesn't work with Kopete's "Now playing  for AmaroK 2" plugin.19:09
AdolaWhat gives there?19:09
blabla/dev/mmcblk0 is in /dev but not /dev/mmcblk0p1* wich was the original partition19:09
MamarokDaSkreech: just missread the line :)19:09
DaSkreechblabla: can you mount it and see if it is the same?19:09
MamarokAdola: because the Kopete plugin is for Amarok 1.4. not Amarok 219:10
AdolaIt says "AmaroK 2"19:10
Mamarokit uses dcop and Amarok 2 uses dbus19:10
Adola2.x to be precise.19:10
MamarokAdola: the script?19:10
AdolaNo, a default plugin with the latest version of Kopete19:10
blablamount output is: mount: Stale NFS file handle19:10
MamarokAdola: well, if it doesn't work you should ask the Kopete folks, not an Amarok issue19:11
Ch1ppyHi, every time my box automounts my ipod I get a runaway kded process that takes up 100% CPU and causes all sorts of issues with KDE applications. Can anyone help me fix the issue?19:11
DaSkreechstdin: Umm Any NFS knowledge ?19:11
* Mamarok uses the ~np with insanity19:11
stdinI don't use NFS, I tend to go for sshfs19:12
blablaDaSkreech: i have no idea of NFS if you meant me19:13
Adolayeah, I know.19:14
DaSkreechblabla: Yeah I think that there is just a lock but I haven't worked with NFS in a few years so I don't remember how it all works :)19:14
AdolaSomeone overthere said "Wait for the KDE4 release"19:14
MamarokAdola: overthere == Kopete?19:14
DaSkreechOf what?19:15
Adolayes19:15
DaSkreechUmm19:15
DaSkreechThere has been a Kopete for KDE4 since 4.019:15
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Feijohi19:15
DaSkreech!hi19:15
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:15
blablaDaSkreech: :S do you know anyone who can help me?19:16
Feijomy kubuntu dont access internet anymore, it get ip from my Router, 192.168.0.2, but dont navigate. I have virtual machines in this computer, those (win or linux) navigate! what can be wrong19:16
DaSkreechblabla: This room is a good place to ask19:16
DaSkreechYou are looking to correct a stale NFS handle. I assume that your ~ is on NFS ?19:17
DaSkreechFeijo: Most likely your DNS19:17
blablaDaSkreech: sorry, what?19:18
blablaDaSkreech: what is +~?19:18
DaSkreechblabla: ~ is your home folder19:19
blablaokay sorry, i just was confused about the + before ~^^, yes it was on the destroyed partition19:20
blablaDaSkreech: i just saw that that + is because i use ircii19:21
feijosorry, my app freezed19:22
feijohow can I check my network config// it is not working, I have no internet19:22
blablatrace19:22
* Mamarok is afk19:24
GuiriHey guys. The kubuntu live cd keeps freaking out at the last minute with my video when it tries to boot the desktop. Any safer boot options I can try?19:25
Guirithanks in advance19:25
GuiriThe VCard is the Cirrus Logic PCI that's emulated from qemu19:25
GuiriBueller?19:26
feijoanyone/19:28
DaSkreechGuiri: There is a Safe graphics mode when you boot it up19:29
DaSkreechfeijo:  Can you ping (209.85.171.100 ?19:29
feijoI can ping nothing19:30
feijoI'm using a virtual machine, it works, but my main machine dont19:30
DaSkreechfeijo: it works in the virtual machine but not on the host OS ?19:31
blablaDaSkreech: i just looked up what nfs is and i dont use nfs, the (sd)disk is directly connected and formated as ext219:32
feijoDaSkreech: yes19:34
DaSkreechblabla: o_O19:34
feijoDaSkreech: another weird stuff, when I access my router IP (192.168.0.1) it show me my machine apache! so it is geting my machine, not the router19:34
feijomy hosts file is ok19:34
DaSkreechfeijo: what is your IP address?19:34
feijo.219:34
feijousing my router DNS19:35
blablaDaSkreech: :( i dont want to loose this files19:35
DaSkreechblabla: I realise19:35
DaSkreechHow big is the partition ?19:35
blabla8GB (SDHC card)19:36
DaSkreechDo you have 8GB free somewhere else ?19:36
blablayes19:37
DaSkreechblabla: Hmm Ok19:37
DaSkreechWhat does sudo fdisk -l say?19:37
DaSkreech!paste19:37
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)19:37
feijoDaSkreech: my ip ends with .2, router ends with .119:37
feijohmmm, my virtual machine dont see my main machine thru IP19:38
feijowth19:38
feijowith imagecd my main machine navigate19:38
DaSkreechfeijo: Probably wouldn't unless you raise it's network level19:39
feijoit should, I have apache, everything worked fine until 2 days ago19:39
DaSkreechfeijo: can you ping 192.168.0.2 and .0.1 ?19:39
feijoDaSkreech: .1 yes, .2 no!19:39
DaSkreechfeijo: Ha ha Sounds like you took your routers IP address :)19:40
feijoDaSkreech: my KNetworkManager shows me .2, thru my virtual, when I browse for .1, it open my router admin page.  I guess it is not that19:41
Soliloquialoh here is to my sweet satan, the one whose little path would make you sad whose power is satan. He'll give those with him 666. there was a little toolshed where he made us suffer sad satan19:41
feijomy main machine network system (or whatever name it have) is broken19:41
DaSkreechfeijo: ok what does sudo ifconfig -a show19:41
DaSkreechpastebin it19:41
DaSkreechblabla: Tried that command ?19:41
feijoomg, I cant pastebin !! my ctrl+c ctrl+v dont work between main and virtual machine! that sux19:44
feijoinet end.: 192.168.0.2 Bcas: 192.168.0.255 Masc: 255.255.255.019:44
blablaDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85279/19:44
DaSkreechfeijo: Right YOu can't pastebin :)19:44
DaSkreechfeijo: Do you have ssh setup ?19:44
feijoyes19:44
DaSkreechfeijo: what do you have in the virtual machine? *nix or Windows?19:45
feijokubuntu 819:45
feijoI just installed it to come here in this channel lol19:45
DaSkreechok well sudo ifconfig -a > netresults19:45
DaSkreechthen you can fish:// to the main machine19:45
feijooh, I have ssh on my main, not virtual machine19:46
feijoapt-get install openssh.server19:46
feijo/19:46
feijoops19:46
DaSkreechfeijo: Don't need it on the virtual machine19:47
feijobut my vm cant see my main, lol! I have only my eyes19:47
DaSkreechfeijo: You can't ping 192.168.0.2 from the virtual machine ?19:47
feijono19:47
feijoshould I try change my IP//19:47
DaSkreechblabla: Yes it looks like you need testdisk19:48
DaSkreechfeijo: no seems like the router is being strange19:48
blablai already installed it... but it detects /dev/sda only19:48
feijoreset it//19:48
DaSkreechfeijo: your virtual machine can go to the routers web page?19:50
feijoyes19:50
DaSkreechbut your main computer cannot19:50
d_mitrywoo. the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 was successful. firefox doesn't look good, though, as expected.19:50
DaSkreechfeijo: Well try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart19:50
DaSkreechd_mitry: Whooot19:51
feijoon the main// I already did try that19:51
DaSkreechAh what did it do?19:51
DaSkreechblabla: what did parted list the partition as ?19:51
YAOMTCDoes anyone know if any torrent client is able to download queue-style? Like, downloads one torrent at a time, when one's done start on another...?19:52
feijoDaSkreech: just one line: Reconfiguring network interfaces... [OK]19:52
DaSkreechHmm ok that's fine19:52
YAOMTCLike what you can do with DownThemAll19:52
DaSkreechYAOMTC: kget19:52
DaSkreechfeijo: And you can't see anything outside your own machine ?19:52
feijono, not even the VMs shares19:53
DaSkreechwhat happens when you try to ping say mba4.org ?19:53
YAOMTCkget can do torrents? It doesn't say anything about torrents in its description, only downloads...?19:53
feijounknow host19:53
feijoYAOMTC: no19:54
DaSkreechKDE4 :-)19:54
feijoYAOMTC: I use rtorrent on my shell19:54
DaSkreechKtorrent has some scheduling but I don't know if that does what you want19:54
feijoDaSkreech: I use kde319:54
snarksterwhy is ettercap considered dangerous to use?19:54
blablaDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85286/19:55
YAOMTCI should use ktorrent anyway, would be better than Transmission (not sure why I'm still using it)19:55
DaSkreechblabla: Ok thats good at least Why is it mounted with loop?19:56
DaSkreechblabla: can you fsck it ?19:56
DaSkreechKorrent is pretty neat. You can enable a small server that will spit up a webpage so you can login from anywhere and add a torrent and manage the ones running19:57
feijoDaSkreech: no more ideas// I'm doomed lol19:57
DaSkreechfeijo: Still trying to figure out what's going on. What happens if you tracepath google.com19:58
blablaDaSkreech: it is not mounted, fsck says bas magic number in super-block... superblock unreadable / discribes no valid ext219:58
DaSkreechblabla: Well I would surely say do a full backup of the partition19:58
feijoDaSkreech: Unknown host19:59
blablaDaSkreech: how?19:59
DaSkreechblabla: dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/path/to/somewhere/that/can/hold/8GB.part.bkup20:00
DaSkreechfeijo: What happenes if you ping 72.14.205.10020:01
Skulblakahow comes Amarok doesn't support mp3? oO20:01
DaSkreechSkulblaka: Cause the engine you are using doesn't have Mp3 support20:01
Skulblakawhatever20:01
feijoanything I try to ping return instantaneouslly the Uknown host20:01
Skulblakathanks20:01
feijoDaSkreech: or Network is unreachable20:02
YAOMTCDaSkreech: KTorrent seems to have a queue manager20:02
DaSkreechSkulblaka: try install kubuntu-restricted-extras20:02
DaSkreechfeijo: Except 192.168.0.1 ?20:02
Skulblakaerm, I think i can live without, thankyou anyway20:02
KetrelI installed Open Office 3 just now and it crashes each time I try to open it.20:03
KetrelAnyone have any clue why?20:03
snarksteri dont understand.. u asked why it doesnt support it.. you are told what to do to make it support it and you dont care?20:04
feijoDaSkreech: .1 or .2 it thinks is localhost, any other IP, even from my VMs, it dont reach20:04
DaSkreechKetrel: Not unil you give us a error message20:04
DaSkreechfeijo: Sure you hosts file is ok?20:04
Skulblakasnarkster: I'll just download the song again, it was just a simple question20:04
d_mitryin kde4, why is there a universal taskbar for all desktops?20:04
* snarkster gives DaSkreech a cup of coffee.20:04
DaSkreechfeijo: what does /etc/resolv.conf say ?20:05
KetrelDaSkreech: it doesn't GIVE me an error message20:05
DaSkreechsnarkster: Tea?20:05
YAOMTCDo Transmission and KTorrent have different "temporary files"? KTorrent doesn't seem to recognize the files that Transmission made. Do I need to start over when I switch clients?20:05
d_mitrymore specifically, how can i have separate taskbars for different desktops?20:05
KetrelIt just informs me that it crashed and I can recoved my documents next time I start it20:05
feijoDaSkreech: 2 lines: search feijo and nameserver 192.168.0.120:05
DaSkreechd_mitry: That's by default change it if you like20:05
d_mitryDaSkreech: where?20:05
DaSkreechKetrel: run it from the command line20:05
snarkstermy bad20:06
* snarkster give DaSkreech a hot cup o tea20:06
DaSkreechfeijo: ha. That explains a lot. and it thinks that you are 192.168.0.1 ;-)20:06
KetrelLemme get this so you can see it20:06
DaSkreechfeijo: wait no it doesn't :-(20:06
giuseppe_during boot phase I read activating swapfile swap [FAILED] - what can I do?20:06
roganHelp please. I have upgraded to KDE4.2 beta 1 and after the update I have lost the ability to close or resize windows.20:06
DaSkreechfeijo:  can't ping 200.10.152.232 can you?20:07
feijoDaSkreech: nameserver = dns, right//20:07
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: sudo swapon20:07
DaSkreechrogan: Do you have a terminal open ?20:07
DaSkreechfeijo: yes20:07
feijocant ping20:07
roganDaSkreech: no20:07
roganDaSkreech: I do now20:08
DaSkreechrogan: can you move windows ?20:08
roganDaSkreech: I cannot move windows20:08
DaSkreechrogan: try kwin --replace20:08
KetrelDaSkreech http://pastebin.com/m5430391a <-- the assert line is when the crash happens20:08
giuseppe_DaSkreech: thisi is the output:20:08
giuseppe_usage: swapon [-hV]20:08
giuseppe_       swapon -a [-e] [-v]20:08
giuseppe_       swapon [-v] [-p priority] special|LABEL=volume_name ...20:08
giuseppe_       swapon [-s]20:08
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: sudo swapon and the path to your swap partition20:08
feijoDaSkreech: I see that youre overloaded on this channel, I need to do something else... will be back shortly :)20:08
roganDaSkreech: that worked... can you explain what that just did?20:09
giuseppe_DaSkreech: Sorry... how can I find my swap partition?20:09
DaSkreechfeijo: tracepath to an IP address20:09
safari4mexico20:09
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: sudo fdisk -l will list out your partitions one of them will be marked swap20:09
DaSkreech!es20:09
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:09
DaSkreechrogan: Did that work?20:09
roganDaSkreech: that worked20:10
feijoDaSkreech: 1: send failed           Resume: pmtu 6553520:10
giuseppe_DaSkreech: now here the output: swapon: /dev/sda5: Device or resource busy20:10
MrInternetWhat is the line for enabling the newest amarok?20:10
MrInternetin sources.lst?20:10
roganDaSkreech: can you explain in brief what that just did20:10
DaSkreechMrInternet: http://kubuntu.org20:10
DaSkreechrogan: started a window manager. So you could manage your windows20:11
giuseppe_DaSkreech: any idea?20:11
DaSkreechrogan: If you log out and back in now you should be good from now on20:11
roganDaSkreech: I just closed that terminal window which created a crash20:11
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: It probably enabled but just later20:11
DaSkreechrogan: I was about to say don't close the terminal :)20:11
DaSkreechrogan: open the terminal run that command then logout20:12
roganDaSkreech: thanks20:12
giuseppe_DaSkreech: Ohh ok... can it depend by my new RAM installation? Two months ago I had 1 GB RAM!20:12
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: no it shouldn't20:12
DaSkreechSwap is the Hard drive not RAM20:12
giuseppe_DaSkreech: yes I know but the swap size was defines with old RAM size...20:13
DaSkreechKetrel: how did you install it?20:13
KetrelDaSkreech http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml20:13
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: Yes but that doesn't stop it being used :)20:13
giuseppe_DaSkreech: now I want to say that I see FAILED message every time I start up my notebook...20:14
DaSkreechOh lord20:14
DaSkreechKetrel:20:14
KetrelBad idea?20:14
DaSkreechWho runs those PPAs ?20:14
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: Since you put in the RAM ?20:14
KetrelDaSkreech not sure, but I will remove them , and try my method from 8.04 then20:15
giuseppe_DaSkreech: sorry?20:15
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: You have been getting [FAILED] since you put in the RAM ?20:15
giuseppe_DaSkreech: well I don't know this because before installing the new RAM I had splash enabled on my distro :-S20:16
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: What does the bottom line of the command "free" say ?20:16
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: Ha ha :) I hate the splash20:16
giuseppe_DaSkreech: me too in fact now I disabled it :)20:16
giuseppe_DaSkreech: Swap:      1461872          0    146187220:17
giuseppe_DaSkreech: here the bottom line!20:17
DaSkreechOk your swap is fine it's just taking a little long to mount20:17
roganDaSkreech: help!20:18
DaSkreechso upstart leaves it and moves on20:18
DaSkreechrogan: SOS!20:18
roganDaSkreech: situation unresolved20:18
DaSkreechrogan: you ran kwin --replace ?20:18
KetrelDaSkreech: its safe using the .deb from the site on 8.10 right?20:18
roganDaSkreech: yes it works temporarily but not perm fix20:18
Nallemanis it possible to upgrade amarok in any simple way?20:19
DaSkreechKetrel: No clue.  I have no idea who runs that ppa20:19
DaSkreechrogan: Do you have session save on?20:19
DaSkreechNalleman: What do you mean?20:20
giuseppe_DaSkreech: ok thanks a lot for all informations... before saying hello to you I have another little question. What can I use to write some little codes to excecute repetitive operation by terminal? By bash... I mean20:20
DaSkreech!commands20:20
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:20
voicu.20:20
DaSkreechgiuseppe_: ^^^^20:20
KetrelDaSkreech: I used the .deb from the openoffice.org site on 8.04, so hopefully it also works on 8.1020:21
DaSkreechKetrel: It does but it stays out of the way of Ubuntu20:21
DaSkreechrogan: When you logout and back in does it remember which applications you had open ?20:22
roganDaSkreech: yes!20:22
DaSkreechrogan: Hmm20:22
DaSkreechshould work then20:22
DaSkreechrogan: try kwin --replace &20:22
giuseppe_DaSkreech: ok... it's difficult to explain... I'll start using google and eventually I'll come back here... thanks a lot for all information and have a nice (day or evening I don't know :))!20:22
NallemanDaSkreech, i would like to have the latest amarok player but I don't know the best way to install it.20:23
DaSkreechNalleman: Do you mean amarok 2 ?20:23
roganDaSkreech: http://pastebin.com/m65f0cac020:23
NallemanDaSkreech, yes20:23
DaSkreechNalleman: Have you read the release notes for it?20:23
KetrelDaSkreech: what do you mean stays out of the way? As in not integrated and uses as default? (Because I dealt with that in 8.04)20:24
NallemanDaSkreech, no20:24
DaSkreechKetrel: Correct20:24
DaSkreechNalleman: Ok are you aware it's not a functional as Amarok 1.4 ?20:24
roganDaSkreech: now my task bar is frozen20:24
DaSkreechrogan: in what way ?20:24
NallemanDaSkreech, no20:24
KetrelDaSkreech: I used the desktop integration (for menus) and then manually set it as the default app for opening the related files. That's all that would be needed right?20:24
DaSkreechKetrel: yes20:25
voicuI don't get it, is k-network-manager supposed to handle the connections too or just show what's happening?20:26
voicuit doesn't seem to work by itself, just when editing connections with the gnome applet20:26
DaSkreechNalleman: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#Amarok_2.0_FAQ and if you still want it then http://kubuntu.org20:26
roganDaSkreech: :( restart after system froze > still nothing20:28
KetrelDaSkreech: same problem with the .deb20:29
DaSkreechrogan: ok when did this start happening ?20:29
Ketrelfrom the official site20:29
roganDaSkreech: I just updated now updated to kde 4.2 beta20:29
DaSkreechrogan: can you alt+F2 ?20:29
roganDaSkreech: negative20:30
voicuis anyone else having problems with knetworkmanager? i'm on intrepid and it doesn't handle wired connections, doesn't show available wireless connections, nothing20:30
DaSkreechTerminal open? :-)20:30
roganDaSkreech: ah :)20:30
DaSkreechknetworkmanager needs love in ibex20:30
voicuOTOH it does show when a connection is activated with the gnome counterpart20:30
DaSkreechrogan: from the terminal type krunner20:30
KetrelOMG, they STILL haven't fixed the blank TTY problem?20:30
DaSkreechin krunner type kwin20:30
roganDaSkreech: ok I typed kwin and quickly opened something then quit20:31
DaSkreechrogan: Ha ha20:31
voicuDaSkreech: ok, i guess i'll go with that horrible looking gnome thing for now20:31
DaSkreechYou think that you can move faster than the computer?20:31
roganDaSkreech: lulz got it20:32
DaSkreechvoicu: ok. Please post bugs about knetworkmanager so that your prolems can be addressed20:32
jussi01voicu: you need to go to new connection20:32
KetrelDaSkreech: any idea why it crashes?20:32
roganDaSkreech: Run Kwin | Desktop Effects | Windows20:32
DaSkreechrogan: Yeah I think I know what was happening. the terminal was closing before the killing of kwin so that it didn't get restored when you logged back in krunner would fix that20:32
voicujussi01: i know how to create connection, knetworkmanager just doesn't do anything20:33
DaSkreechKetrel: Looks like a bad Qt package for KDE 4.1.3 which I don't get as I had OO.o 3 since 4.1.0 and it worked fine20:33
jussi01voicu: ahh, ok. :)20:33
roganDaSkreech: ! Error Could not find the program 'kwine'20:33
DaSkreechkwin20:34
KetrelDaSkreech: wait, it's a different error this time20:34
DaSkreechok what's the error line?20:34
radlipatok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?20:34
Ketrel"terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno:RuntimeExeception'"20:34
DaSkreechOk that's a OO.o error20:34
roganDaSkreech: kruner > kwin > then If I open Kwin nothing happens20:35
DaSkreechKetrel: #openoffice.org :)20:35
DaSkreechrogan: Can't move your windows ?20:35
roganDaSkreech: no20:35
feijoback20:35
DaSkreechrogan: that's not cool20:35
radlipat  ok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?20:35
roganDaSkreech: the only time I can is if kwin --replace < but thats a temp fix20:35
DaSkreechrogan: Hmm ok you did that from krunner ?20:36
DaSkreechalt+F2 should work now20:36
roganno20:36
roganDaSkreech: nope20:36
feijoDaSkreech: did you had other ideas/ :)20:36
DaSkreechrogan: ok well try it from in krunner20:36
DaSkreechfeijo: tracepath to 192.168.0.120:37
roganDaSkreech: try what from within krunner?20:37
DaSkreechkwin --replace20:37
roganDaSkreech: yes that works.. just like it did in terminal20:38
feijoDaSkreech: 3 lines, mentioning feijo-home.local (that ip)  It thinks its my machine20:38
roganDaSkreech: should I try logging out again?20:38
DaSkreechyes20:38
DaSkreechfeijo: go to your router's IP in the VM and see where it gets DNS from20:39
voicuDaSkreech: I'd be happy to post a bug report but I'm not sure "no connection seems to work" is a lot of help20:39
DaSkreechvoicu: state what you did what you expect to happen and what did happen and your hardware20:40
feijodns relay active on router, is that ok20:40
roganDaSkreech: dosent work anymore20:40
feijoDaSkreech: WAN page shows Primary DNS Address as 0.0.0.020:41
DaSkreechfeijo: so it acts as it's own DNS20:41
roganDaSkreech: after loging back in I still do not have the ability to move/resize/close windows20:41
feijoDaSkreech: yes, its a DLink 624 wifi router20:41
DaSkreechrogan: grr i could just force it to open20:41
roganDaSkreech: this is not common after upgrading to beta1?20:42
DaSkreechfeijo: do you have dhcp server installed on your computer?20:42
DaSkreechrogan: Nope.20:42
feijoDaSkreech: I dont think so20:42
roganDaSkreech: I can live with it by just using kwin --replace every time I open a new session.. should I submit this bug report somewere?20:43
roganDaSkreech: what do you suggest I do20:43
DaSkreechfeijo: Ok sudo dhclient then20:43
DaSkreechrogan: You can use Autostart and tell it to run kwin --replace when you login20:43
DaSkreechbut it really should be auto starting by itself20:44
roganDaSkreech: yea thats like slapingd duct take on the problem20:44
* DaSkreech takes his ducts20:44
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: if it makes it work, dont knock it20:44
feijoDaSkreech: what am I looking at it show me all my connections, I have a few from vmware20:44
DaSkreechfeijo: really? That's strange20:45
DaSkreechwhat IP address did you get?20:45
roganDaSkreech: were should I submit this error?20:45
DaSkreech!bugs20:45
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots20:45
feijoDaSkreech: that command returned several times 192.168.188.12820:46
feijolast linke, bound to that ip20:46
feijo"renewal in 894 seconds"20:47
feijolast *line20:47
DaSkreechfeijo: can you ping 200.10.152.232 now ?20:47
feijo//////// yes20:47
feijoWTH!!!!!!!20:48
feijoits working now20:48
feijogoogle back20:48
radlipat ok how much ram do i need to run 8.10?20:48
feijowhat was that/// lol20:48
radlipat /me how much ram do i need to run 8.10?20:49
voicuis there a way too see what wireless connections are around with the gnome applet for network manager?20:50
ActionParsnipvoicu: you could use sudo iwlist scan20:50
DaSkreechfeijo: You picked up a rogue DHCp20:51
KetrelDaSkreech: no luck there :\20:51
feijoDaSkreech: thanks a lot, so that dhclient solved//20:51
DaSkreechradlipat: I was running with 512 for a while20:51
DaSkreechradlipat: It's going to be a little more than KDe3 by default because a) it's not optimized and b) it's using compositing20:51
DaSkreechYou can turn off compositing and get a boost but a less wobbly experience :)20:52
voicuActionParsnip: well i guess it's better than nothing but is there something a little more integrated with the network manager?20:52
radlipatok so ineed at least 512?20:52
ActionParsnipvoicu: no idea man, i dont use gui apps for that sort of thing20:52
feijonow I have another question, I guess much easier. My keyboard stop working the keys shift, ctrl and alt20:53
DaSkreechradlipat: no you can do it with less but I would think that unless you are restricting yourself it would get painful below that20:53
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radlipatDaSkreech: lol i believe im only at 25620:53
ActionParsnipradlipat: you could use xubuntu20:53
radlipatbut i can go up to 32020:53
ActionParsnipradipor unofficial - fluxbuntu20:54
afeijoi'm back ... but no shift key20:54
logan85Got a question about wireless - I am using the Kubuntu DVD (live so far, haven't installed yet) and it recognized my laptops wireless card and can even find some networks. . .20:54
radlipatActionParsnip: ok whats the link?20:54
voicuActionParsnip: I wasn't using them either when I just had wired connections but handling so many wireless connections is annoying in a terminal20:54
radlipatim sick of 6.0620:54
radlipatand is there a shipit?20:55
ActionParsnip!xubuntu | radlipat20:55
ubotturadlipat: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels20:55
logan85But I can not convince the thing to connect to my school network20:55
ActionParsniplogan85: if your wireless lan uses wpa you will need the wpa supplicant20:55
logan85Is there a way to em, get information about why this thing won't connect to my school network?20:55
logan85I know the network does not broadcast the SSID - no prob, plugged that in, and they use WEP - so I copy pasted the hex key20:56
DaSkreechradlipat: Ha ha I can get you to work on KDE4 with that but it's .. strange20:56
DaSkreechmuch more like adding what you need than stripping out what you dont'20:56
ActionParsniplogan85: then type the ssid used and then specify the wep key20:56
logan85I have done that already20:57
ActionParsniplogan85: as scanning for ssid's will not show the name20:57
radlipatDaSkreech: what is a mimic program for shockwave20:57
radlipatDaSkreech: and how can u do that?20:57
DaSkreechThere is none as far as I know20:57
afeijoi lost shift, ctrl and alt keys, how to restore/20:58
ActionParsnipradlipat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave20:58
radlipatActionParsnip: ty20:58
radlipatDaSkreech: so how is it strange with kde4 on 6.06?20:59
ActionParsnip!keyboard | afeijo20:59
ubottuafeijo: To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts20:59
DaSkreechradlipat: No on 8.10. I'd login on the failsafe setting so that you just start X then pop in any programs you need20:59
logan85well fuck me. . . the wireless worked this time. Don't know what I did different and don't really care lol. Sorry to be a bother21:00
DaSkreech!ohmy21:00
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:00
radlipatahhh ic21:00
radlipatDaSkreech: well ok21:01
afeijoActionParsnip: thanks, it was right on that program, but I did 2 applies and not my shift and ctrl are working21:01
radlipatso ineed to wait for my cd in mail then?21:01
ActionParsnipafeijo: does xev show any output?21:02
afeijoActionParsnip: whats xev?21:02
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radlipatonce Xubuntu is fully installed with konsole will it whipe my hardrive?21:04
ActionParsnip!info xev21:04
ubottuPackage xev does not exist in intrepid21:04
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ActionParsnipafeijo: it shows codes for inputs21:04
ActionParsnipafeijo: its a command line app21:04
radlipatActionParsnip: once Xubuntu is fully installed with konsole will it whipe my hardrive?21:05
radlipatActionParsnip: or will i still have skype?21:05
afeijoActionParsnip: but I solved my problem, by going in the system config, thanks again21:06
ActionParsnipradlipat: no, as long as you dont delete it21:07
ActionParsnipradlipat: if you have skyp installed it will work in xubuntu, its the same system, just different front21:07
ActionParsnipafeijo: awesome21:07
snarksterwow this is a hard finale..21:08
DaSkreechradlipat: You should be fine21:08
snarkstertaking my linux 126DL final right now21:08
radlipatActionParsnip: kewl  thank you very much ill let you know if i need anything else21:08
DaSkreechShould you be on the net while doing that ?21:08
radlipatDaSkreech: thank you too21:08
snarksterits a take home test..21:08
radlipatthats how im running it lol21:08
KetrelDaSkreech: I'm getting no help there. Basically I'm being told, I should be using *ubuntu21:09
snarksteraccording to my prof, if your going to become a linux admin you have to be able to search21:09
radlipatkonsole window in konversation21:09
DaSkreechKetrel: Well pop into #ubuntu-devel and ask them if they know of that PPA and what tests were done on it21:09
mohbanahow much space will kde take up on my Ubuntun install21:10
DaSkreechmohbana: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it will tell you21:11
KetrelDaSkreech: I'm using the deb from the open office site now, remember?21:11
DaSkreechYou will use <ths much> space continue y/N ?21:11
DaSkreechKetrel: Ah you removed the o ther one ?21:11
Ketrelyes21:11
ActionParsnipmohbana: DaSkreech is right. it will say what will be installed and ask for confirm before installing21:12
mohbanathanks.  when is the new amarok going to be released?21:12
mnhi everyone21:13
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radlipatcan i  get link to paste it plz21:14
radlipatso u can see whats going on21:14
radlipati 4got it21:14
Amelie1973does anybody know ho wto make a raid in kubuntu?21:14
radlipat!pasteit21:14
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pasteit21:14
radlipatnope21:14
Amelie1973:(21:15
radlipatidk how to spell it lol21:15
ActionParsnip!paste | radlipat21:15
ubotturadlipat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:15
radlipatty21:15
KetrelI may have a lead.21:15
radlipatok i dont know what bottom part means21:16
Ketrelfixed21:16
radlipathttp://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/21:16
KetrelDaSkreech fixed it21:16
DaSkreechKetrel: what was it?21:16
radlipatlines 4 through 621:16
KetrelI had to delete .openoffice.org from my home directory21:16
DaSkreechUm21:16
Ketrelhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-121141.html <----21:16
DaSkreechyou could just mv it :021:16
ActionParsnipKetrel: rm ~/.openoffice.org21:17
ActionParsnipKetrel: i'd mv it first though just to test21:17
KetrelActionParsnip I did that already, that's how I fixed it21:17
DaSkreechKetrel: really should just mv it :)21:17
stdin2 hours later /me hit's the "Send" button21:18
ActionParsnipKetrel: cool, then rm the old file21:18
KetrelDaSkreech: was a fresh install, I had nothing to lose21:18
radlipathello???21:19
DaSkreechOk21:19
DaSkreech!hi21:19
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:19
DaSkreechhi blabla21:19
blablahi21:19
radlipat] <radlipat> ok i dont know what bottom part means21:19
radlipat[15:24] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/21:19
DaSkreechdid you do the back up?21:19
radlipatummmmmmmm no!!!!21:19
radlipattoo late now me thinks21:20
blablathe sd card is very slow :( it dd has finished about 4GB now21:20
radlipat97% done already21:20
radlipat99%21:20
radlipat100%21:21
DaSkreechblabla: alright21:21
ActionParsnipradlipat: fyi, dont use sudo gedit, use gksudo gedit21:21
ActionParsnipwell, kdesudo kate if you are using kde21:21
DaSkreechstdin: recovery question21:21
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radlipathttp://paste.ubuntu.com/85312/21:22
DaSkreechIf you have the time and energy21:22
radlipatplz take a look21:22
radlipatgdm and kdm are my choices21:23
zanberdoquestion: what happened to katapult for ibex?  I've search the repos and no go.  Was it removed?21:24
TeknoGnomeis there a vnc server installed on 8.10 by default?21:24
radlipatdo u know what i should choose?????????21:24
ActionParsnip!info katapult21:24
ubottuPackage katapult does not exist in intrepid21:24
ActionParsnipzanberdo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95198321:26
ActionParsnipzanberdo: theres nothing stopping you compiling it, making a deb and installing it21:26
stdinDaSkreech: it's 21:27, I've yet to have anything to eat, so I'll probably be a while21:28
zanberdoActionParsnip: nope, no reason I couldn't compile it, make a deb and install.  However, seeing that krunner appears to be the alternative, I will try it.21:30
radlipatActionParsnip: plz take a look!?!?!?!?!? http://paste.ubuntu.com/85312/21:30
rniamohi, how can i use bluetooth under kubuntu21:30
ActionParsnipradlipat: if you are using kde, id use kdm21:31
radlipatkk ty21:31
zanberdoActionParsnip: I suppose my question should have been: is katapult no longer included with kde 4.x and if so, what is it's replacement?  The answer I see is krunner.  I did search kde 4 and katapult but for some reason did not find the forum entry you linked.  Thank you for the feedback21:31
ActionParsniprniamo: try kbluetooth21:31
ActionParsnipzanberdo: you got it, krunner. Its been taken out21:31
rniamohow do i have to use kbluetooth ?21:32
DaSkreechstdin: Go konsume21:32
DaSkreechzanberdo: hasn't been ported to KDE4 yet. Try krunner21:32
DaSkreechbluetooth doesn't work in ibex21:33
zanberdokrunner works for me.  I'm still not sure I like that I can't do some things with kde 4.x that I could with previous versions. For instance, the size of the panels can not be made as small as in previous versions.  And it appears to be some limits to how you can configure your panels... note: just observations21:33
zanberdoDaSkreech: yep, ActionParsnip let me know, thanks21:33
ActionParsnipzanberdo: the link i gave gives all the info you need, if you like it i'd compile it21:33
rniamo<DaSkreech> : bluetooth doesn't work in ibex ? it works for me under gnome ... so why not under kde ?21:34
zanberdoActionParsnip: nope, I'm good. I will play with krunner for the time being and see if it does what I'm accustomed to katapult doing.  If not, I will compile it can play around with it more.  thank you for the offer.21:34
DaSkreechin KDE :-) You are correct. I think the Gnome packages might work21:34
DaSkreechzanberdo: how small do you want the panel?21:35
zanberdoDaSkreech: "tiny" bhy 3.5.9 standard.  Current size is more like "small" by 3.5.9 standard21:36
zanberdoDaSkreech: the reason being that I like to have two panels: one on top and one on bottom similar to gnome layout21:36
DaSkreechzanberdo: Hmm well KDE 4.2 is pretty small21:36
zanberdoDaSkreech: small yes, tiny no. :)21:37
zanberdoDaSkreech: 4.2 did you say?21:37
zanberdohmm21:37
DaSkreechzanberdo: Topic :)21:37
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: sneaky ;)21:38
zanberdoDaSkreech: I appear to still be running 4.1.221:38
DaSkreechActionParsnip: Shhhhh :-)21:38
ActionParsniphahaha21:38
DaSkreechzanberdo: 4.2 is nice :) Beta 2 is coming out in a few days but if you like you can wait till Jan21:39
DaSkreechBut it's nice :-)21:39
zanberdoDaSkreech: updaing to 4.2 b1 now21:39
* DaSkreech winks at ActionParsnip21:39
loganWHDhola all21:40
loganWHDlets say i owned a movie and i wanted to make a legal dvd back up... what tool would u use in kubuntu?21:40
* ActionParsnip has 4.221:40
hyper_chloganWHD: dd21:40
jussi01!info k9copy21:41
ubottuk9copy (source: k9copy): DVD backup tool for KDE. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.2-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1349 kB, installed size 3024 kB21:41
shad0w0fsinHey, does anyone know why Kopete in the KDE 4.2 beta doesn't support MSN?21:41
hyper_chshad0w0fsin: it does21:41
zanberdologanWHD: I use dvdbackup21:41
ActionParsnipshad0w0fsin: do you mean amsn or the Microsoft network?21:41
loganWHDthank you both21:42
shad0w0fsinhyper_ch: I don't see an option to add an MSN account in Kopete21:42
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loganWHDwhich is better21:42
zanberdologanWHD: is a cli app that preserves the dvd menu structure and all files21:42
shad0w0fsinActionParsnip: i meant the Microsoft network21:42
ActionParsnip!best | loganWHD21:42
ubottuloganWHD: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.21:42
loganWHDoh sorry21:42
hyper_chshad0w0fsin: you're right... use amsn then21:42
ActionParsnipshad0w0fsin: like hotmail do you mean?21:42
loganWHDi need to make some copies of some movies for back up... but never did it in kubuntu21:43
hyper_chloganWHD: dd will make a 1:1 copy21:43
zanberdologanWHD: dd will permit you to make a bit-for-bit backup into a single file such as an ISO.  dvdbackup will "rip" the dvd and create the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS file structure, along with the associated files.21:43
loganWHDdd is dvdbackup?21:43
zanberdologanWHD: of course, dvdbackup is not used to burn a new disc21:43
shad0w0fsinActionParsnip: No I meant the instant messaging protocol21:43
DaSkreechshad0w0fsin: The Debian packages got held up They should be back shortly21:44
hyper_chshad0w0fsin: seems it's not supported yet in 4.2... any reason you don't like aMSN?21:44
radlipat please take a look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/ ... i dont know what the bottom part means21:44
shad0w0fsinhyper_ch: Yeah I'll just use aMSN or emesene for now, I was just wondering if it was a bug at my end or not21:44
hyper_chshad0w0fsin: kopete supports now QQ :)21:45
ActionParsnipshad0w0fsin: amsn or pidgin support msn protocol21:45
loganWHDk9 looks awesome21:46
loganWHDthank yo21:46
loganWHDu21:46
radlipatplease take a look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/85311/ ... i dont know what the bottom part means21:47
DaSkreechhyper_ch: Again21:48
hyper_chDaSkreech: ???21:48
DaSkreechSupporting qq21:48
hyper_chDaSkreech: it did before?21:49
DaSkreechIn KDE3 I think21:49
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hyper_chDaSkreech: :) didn't see that then... used Eve21:49
DaSkreechWho's eve?21:50
hyper_chDaSkreech: rather "what" than "who"21:51
DaSkreech:-)21:51
hyper_cheva - QQ IM protocol compatible client in KDE21:51
ActionParsnipradlipat: its there for you, run kdesudo kate /etc/mozpluggerrc21:52
hyper_cheva, not eve :)21:52
DaSkreechok21:52
hyper_chbut it's basically the same21:52
ActionParsnipradlipat: and copy / paste the lines to the end of the file21:52
ActionParsnipradlipat: its in plain english21:52
radlipatkk ill try in a few gotta wait for xubuntu21:53
radlipatto finish installing21:53
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peabodyhow do I set it so that sub directories take the properties of the base directory?22:01
DaSkreechpeabody: Hmm?22:01
peabodyI thought it was with the group sticky bit but I guess I was wrong22:01
peabodyliek I have a directory /usr/share22:01
peabodyand it's 755 share:users22:01
peabodyif a sub directory is created/usr/share/this22:02
peabodythis is owned by share:users witth the permissions 75522:02
mnhi22:03
mni need nelp22:03
mnhelp22:03
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Amelie1973can't install the adobeflash player in kubuntu 8.0422:03
peabodyAmelie1973: did you try installing it in adept?22:04
Amelie1973yes22:04
Amelie1973i tried from there, and from the terminal22:04
Amelie1973and doesn't work22:05
peabodywhat's the problem?22:05
Amelie1973also, I downloaded the .deb file, and executed it, and when i try to watch youtube22:05
Amelie1973or other websites, it still saying the flashplayer plugin is required22:05
peabodyare you blocking javascript?22:07
Amelie1973i don't think so22:07
Amelie1973how do i know is enable or not?22:07
radlipatok my xubuntu in done installing what do i do?22:09
Amelie1973ok, i've already check the firefox preferences22:09
Amelie1973and it says "enable java script" and is selected22:10
peabodyare you using any type of blocking software?22:10
Amelie1973no!22:10
ActionParsnipback22:10
Amelie1973i just installed the kubuntu 8.04 OS22:10
peabodytry this website: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/22:11
radlipatok action so what should i do now to get xubuntu desktop to show?22:11
radlipatrestart computer?22:11
ActionParsnipradlipat: in kdm, change session type to xfce22:11
ActionParsnipradlipat: log off and change to xfce22:12
ActionParsnipradlipat: then log back on22:12
radlipatim in kdm mode i think22:12
radlipatthats what i chose b4 right22:12
mouser-radlipat: are you at the login screen?22:12
ActionParsnipradlipat: at the logon screen, look at the bottom right, you'll see session]22:13
radlipatok22:13
ActionParsnipradlipat: click that and change it to xfce22:13
radlipatits not there22:13
radlipatwtf?22:14
Amelie1973doesnt work :(22:16
ActionParsnipradlipat: install the xubuntu-desktop package. Next time you login, you can choose Xfce4 from the Session menu on the login screen.  Thats from http://www.xubuntu.org/get22:18
radlipatkk ty22:18
delilazHi all, Right now I'm using kubuntu dapper-drake but am thinking of switching to hardy-heron, and was wondering if any external HD is compatible with either of the two systems???22:20
loganWHDhrmmmmm k9copy keeps crashing... not the best i guess22:27
ActionParsniploganWHD: run it from terminal and you'll get intelligent output22:27
ActionParsniploganWHD: so you can see whats up22:27
ShaunRdelilaz: what do you mean by compatible?22:28
blablaDaSkreech: dd finished22:28
loganWHDwell it runs22:28
loganWHDbut soon as i try to load a dvd it crashes22:28
roganhey DaSkreech22:29
kaminixWhen converting my Flac-songs to mp3, all my japanese and swedish tags go lost somehow. Is there any good/easy/quick way to restore them? I used the perl script pacpl for converting.22:30
delilazShaunR: compatible meaning that kubuntu will recongnize it as an external hd and no problems mounting it22:30
Dr_willis_AAOEvery externa;l USBhard dr4ive has worked for me...22:30
triggerhappTried in #kde, couldnt get a staright answer, KDE launches KMail compose message whenever i plug in my power cable (laptop, so its often) any ideas why?22:30
blablaDaSkreech: i have a backup now22:30
DaSkreechHi22:30
Dr_willis_AAOdepending on what you want to do with it. You may want to tweak how it mounts22:30
DaSkreechrogan: Sup?22:30
ShaunRyeah, delilaz: generally, usb externals tend to be the same usually22:30
DaSkreechstdin: around ?22:31
ShaunRits usually notices it regardless of what make, etc.22:31
roganDaSkreech: problem submite but I have run into a few more.. perhaps I need to reinstall?22:31
ShaunRjust like it notices any generic HDD (internal)22:31
roganDaSkreech: widget problems too22:31
delilazThanks much ShaunR :)22:32
delilazThank you too Dr_willis_AAO22:32
ShaunRdelilaz: yw22:32
roganDaSkreech: ex. To add a widget freezes up my entire system now and am forced to reboot22:32
DaSkreechrogan: ugh22:32
DaSkreechblabla: ok it's the same size as the partition22:33
roganDaSkreech:  :(22:33
rogan... /writs22:33
blablaDaSkreech: its about 8GB22:35
DaSkreechrogan: whats the list of problems?22:35
roganDaSkreech:  as you know kwin and now adding a widget will freeze the system22:36
DaSkreechblabla: See if you can mount that :)22:36
DaSkreechrogan: Sounds like a driver issue22:37
ActionParsniprogan: you could try renaming ~/.kde and restarting. you'll lose all kde settings but you'll get stock settings which may work, as you've renamed, you can rename back22:37
blablaDaSkreech: mount: Stale NFS file handle22:37
blabla:(22:37
blablaDaSkreech: sudo mount /media/sdb1/mmcblk0backup.bkup /media/disk22:39
blablaDaSkreech: mount: Stale NFS file handle22:39
DaSkreechblabla: Hmm That's fairly bad.22:39
keresDaSkreech: is there a program out there that can write bootable DVDs for kubuntu?22:41
moth_uhm, hi ^^  I'm all new to Linux and stuff, I downloaded Kubuntu yesterday and now I'm trying to figure it out. But I seem to have trouble installing things, like VLC or Mozilla Firefox because it just doesn't want to install anything..! Can anyone help me? :)22:41
DaSkreechkeres: Any program that burns DVD22:42
blablaDaSkreech: everything lost? :(22:48
zanberdoquestion: when creating a new panel and adding widgets, how can I make them stay in the position I place them on the panel?  At present, I have a panel at the top of the screen that I'd like to have my clock and other items which are currently in the main/bottom panel.  When I add items to the panel, they all shift to the left...22:49
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ActionParsnipmoth_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc firefox22:54
ActionParsnipmoth_: linux is case sensitive22:54
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ActionParsnipmoth_: is that working?22:55
DaSkreechblabla: I don't think so but I don't know22:57
roganHow do I reinstall the packages for kde 4.2 beta 123:03
zeth_how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?23:06
roganDaSkreech: how do I go about reinstalling?23:06
stefanjrklbDoes anyone know why when I am connecting my mouse into USB in computer (notebook) my mouse isn't working ??23:06
ActionParsniprogan: sudo apt-get --reinstall install kde-nightly23:06
roganActionParsnip thats not correct23:07
roganActionParsnip to reinstall kde4.2. beta123:07
roganE: Couldn't find package kde-nightly23:08
DaSkreechActionParsnip: It's kubuntu-desktop23:08
ActionParsniprogan: well change the package to whatever package installed it23:08
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: for kde 4.2?23:08
ActionParsnipstefanjrklb: sudo modprobe usbmouse may work23:09
ActionParsnipstefanjrklb: try this http://www.mepis.org/node/18523:09
roganActionParsnip DaSkreech: so sudo apt-get --reinstall..........23:10
DaSkreechyeah23:10
zeth_how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?23:10
rogankubuntu desktop?23:10
blablaDaSkreech: can i use testdisk the backup? i just called testdisk /media/sdb1/mmcblk0backup.bkup and now testdisk asks me to select the partition table type23:11
ActionParsniprogan: kubuntu-desktop will install kde 4.123:11
roganso I cant reinstall 4.2 beta?23:11
zeth_how do I make konqueror web browser window open sligtly larger and not 640x480 ?23:12
ActionParsniprogan: yes, try kde-nightly-kdebase23:12
|DS|whats the default root password?23:12
dr_willisThere is none23:12
dr_willisYour first initial user has sudo rights.. use sudo23:13
ActionParsnip!root | |DS|23:13
ubottu|DS|: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo23:13
|DS|lol23:13
roganActionParsnip E: Invalid operation kde-nightly-kdebase23:13
ActionParsnip|DS|: forget about root, use sudo / kdesudo23:13
|DS|I do :P23:13
ActionParsnip|DS|: then you have as much power as root23:13
|DS|my friend said to try root because I'm getting an error with my current account23:14
stefanjrklbMy mouse still doesny working :/23:14
zeth_KDE 4.2 is pretty awsome! but definitely not as smooth as my Ubuntu-compiz experience23:14
ActionParsnipzeth_: dont you mean gnome + compiz ;)23:14
zeth_ ActionParsnip: right you are :)23:14
ActionParsniprogan: i'd run dpkg -l | less and see what looks likely23:15
roganHow do I reinstall kde4.2 beta?23:15
zeth_umm ... I just did compiz --replace and all my window borders are gone now23:15
|DS|I've had that :/23:15
ActionParsnipzeth_: you need some options in your xorg.conf23:16
zeth_ ActionParsnip: what? really?23:16
ActionParsnipzeth_: http://pastebin.com/f2fa0edfd23:16
roganActionParsnip ok what good does that do me23:16
ActionParsnipzeth_: line 75 + 7623:16
zeth_ ActionParsnip: is there a way to undo compiz --replace?23:17
ActionParsniprogan: that shows you whats installed, you can peruse to see if anything jogs your memory23:17
dr_williskwin --replace23:17
zeth_thanks23:17
ActionParsniprogan: http://hehe2.net/linux-general/try-kde-42-now-in-ubuntu/23:17
DaSkreechblabla: yes23:17
zeth_now where is the xorg.conf file again?23:18
shad0w0fsindoes anyone know how to fix the graphical glitches I experience in KDE 4.1 Intrepid when using OpenOffice?23:18
zeth_ActionParsnip: where is the xorg.conf file located again?23:19
denis!de23:19
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de23:19
ActionParsnipzeth_: kdesdo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf23:21
zeth_bash: kdesdo: command not found23:21
zeth_I think you meant kdesudo ... :)23:22
captainbrailleHi, I have a quick question, I'm not sure how to do something... I logged into my Yahoo.com email and told Kwallet I didn't want it to remember the password, but now I want it to remember the password and the pop-up won't come back up. How do I "reset" it so it will?23:22
kereswhile burning an ISO, i get the error ' Error while burning: the disk could not be mounted (max attempts reached).23:23
ActionParsnipzeth_: typo23:23
kereswhat does this mean?23:23
zeth_ok ... now do i need to resart X before trying emerald again?23:23
kereswhat does that mean? i am using brasero23:23
DaSkreechrogan: Worked?23:23
ActionParsnipkeres: try burning slower maybe23:23
keresActionParnsip: i burned it as slow as it could go23:24
ActionParsnipkeres: try another app23:24
ActionParsnip!burning | keres23:24
ubottukeres: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto23:24
keresshould i turn verify written data and simulate on?23:26
kereswhen burning an iso at 4x?23:26
keresand what should i set the writing mode to?23:26
blablaDaSkreech: testdisk asks me for the partition table type(intel, efi gpt, Mac, none, Sun, XBox) wich should i select?23:26
keresDaSkreech?23:27
roganActionParsnip DaSkreech: unresolved ... action the link you provided ended up giving me more errors23:27
roganActionParsnip DaSkreech: the recent upgrade is resulting in more and more problems.. I have never had any problems with ubuntu before23:28
triggerhappTried in #kde, couldnt get a staright answer, KDE launches KMail compose message whenever i plug in my power cable (laptop, so its often) any ideas why?23:31
DaSkreechblabla: intel23:31
DaSkreechkeres: None of that makes a diference to theactual burning23:32
keresDaSkreech: does k3b eject on success?23:32
DaSkreechrogan: ok how afraid are you of terminal ?23:32
DaSkreechkeres: If you set that in the optins23:32
keresok23:32
keresDaSkreech: is there a program that can tell if a DVD is bootable?23:33
DaSkreechA BIOS :-D23:33
roganDaSkreech not at all23:34
roganhere is the latest error http://pastebin.com/m5749a42e23:35
DaSkreechrogan: What video card do you have ?23:35
keresDaSkreech: still wouldn't boot23:36
DaSkreechkeres: what are you burning?23:37
keresDaSkreech: can i PM you?23:37
roganDaSkreech eh that would be lspci correct?23:37
DaSkreechSure23:37
roganDaSkreech intel GM965/GL960 it looks like23:38
DaSkreechrogan: sudo lshw -C video23:38
roganDaSkreech http://pastebin.com/md599a1923:39
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roganDaSkreech ..23:45
DaSkreechI guess that should be alright23:46
DaSkreechrogan: OK jump to a TTY and run sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_beta23:46
roganDaSkreech ey?23:47
JediatNighthi all , do you know where to get libdvdcss2 ?23:48
JediatNightI'm trying to play dvd's in VLC23:49
crimsunJediatNight: see medibuntu23:49
JediatNightI'm there already. Thanks crimsun23:50
roganDaSkreech http://i37.tinypic.com/xprlah.jpg23:50
roganDaSkreech yes?23:50
ActionParsnip!dvd | JediatNight23:53
ubottuJediatNight: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:53
lovrei cant seem to find any BOA constructor tutorials. Are there any other GUI tools for python out there? Sorry for offtopic....:Ž(23:53
JediatNightThanks ActionParsnip23:53
blablaDaSkreech: thanks for your help, i havent got my data back but i have to go to bed now...23:54
DaSkreechblabla: ok keep that file it has all your data23:55
ImLizhello room, I have my hd partitioned in two and was wondering if the Hardy-Heron install will give me the option to install it over the dapper-drake partition???23:55
DaSkreechrogan: yes23:55
dr_willisImLiz,  you want to totally remove the old install?23:56
DaSkreechImLiz: Sure if you lilke23:56
ActionParsnipImLiz: you can upgrade using the cd but you'll need to upgrade one release at a time23:56
ImLizActionParsnip: so I'll have to download every previous version until hardy-heron?23:57
ActionParsnip!upgrade | ImLiz23:58
ubottuImLiz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes23:58
ImLizok I'll take a look at that, thanks all23:59

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