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| duanedesign | I think the Importance of the bug should be set to Wishlist Bug #307724 | 01:12 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307724 in gksu "gksu should complain about missing applications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307724 | 01:12 |
| Hew | Hey guys. I've dealt with the Edgy SRU bugs in the past when it became unsupported, and I've just had a user ask if I could do the same for Feisty now that it is unsupported as well. I just wanted to make it known here first to make sure this is still ok, before I go and ping over 100 bugs :-) | 01:27 |
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| duanedesign | should feature requests be pointed towards https://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureSpecifications I have found conflicting advice on the wiki. | 01:44 |
| Hew | duanedesign: If it's a small thing that could be added fairly easily, it should be a wishlist bug. If it's a big deal to implement, it should be a blueprint. Brainstorm is for just that, brainstorming. What is the feature request? | 01:51 |
| duanedesign | I have found a couple over the course of the day. the latest one was bug# 307724 | 01:54 |
| duanedesign | I am new to triage so finding feature request is something I can "handle" so I want to make sure that in the future I am directing people to the right resource | 01:55 |
| duanedesign | Hew: I noticed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks under How to deal with Feature Requests there are a couple of sites that it suggest be mentioned. Should those be mentioned in addition to the brainstorm site? | 01:57 |
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| Hew | duanedesign: That page deals with bug triage, so for already reported bugs that are non-trivial feature requests, they should be written as a specification (aka. blueprint). The advice on that page is correct, I don't think brainstorm needs to be added there, it serves a different purpose. | 02:00 |
| Hew | duanedesign: So if a bug has been reported that is requesting some massive change, you should suggest to the reporter that they read those pages and become familiar with specifications. | 02:02 |
| duanedesign | so trivial changes brainstorm and massive changes the specification route | 02:03 |
| Hew | duanedesign: No, brainstorm is something separate. | 02:05 |
| Hew | duanedesign: trivial changes are fine as wishlist bugs | 02:05 |
| Hew | duanedesign: Is this a feature you have in mind, or a bug you are triaging? | 02:06 |
| duanedesign | Hew: in the wiki under how to triage it has a standard reply under dealing with feature requests: Since what you submitted is a Feature Request to improve Ubuntu, you are invited to post your idea in Ubuntu Brainstorm | 02:08 |
| Hew | duanedesign: I suppose it depends on what the feature is. I haven't actually seen that response used before. | 02:11 |
| duanedesign | ok thank you for the help | 02:12 |
| duanedesign | I am understanding a bit better as I re read your replies | 02:12 |
| Hew | duanedesign: No worries, I only hope I was actually helpful :P | 02:12 |
| duanedesign | definetly | 02:12 |
| duanedesign | off to hunt more bugs | 02:13 |
| Hew | nice :-) | 02:13 |
| duanedesign | I think the Importance of the bugs should be set to Wishlist Bug #307797 and bug # 307724 | 03:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307797 in gnome-media "visual feedback for volume control" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307797 | 03:56 |
| duanedesign | I think the Importance of the bugs should be set to Wishlist Bug #307796 | 04:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307796 in fglrx-installer "fglrx-kernel-source should depend on gcc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307796 | 04:15 |
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| Hew | duanedesign: Feel free to triage those bugs as usual, you can just leave the importance for a member of Bug Control to change later. | 04:36 |
| duanedesign | Hew: So I should just leave a comment introducing them to the blueprint process | 04:42 |
| duanedesign | unless it is a trivial feature request, then I would just leave it alone | 04:42 |
| duanedesign | here is a link to one that I have done. Let me know if you think this is appropriate. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/307797 | 04:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307797 in gnome-media "visual feedback for volume control" [Undecided,New] | 04:46 |
| maco | if its a trivial wishlist bug, you can come here and leave a message asking that it be set to wishlist | 04:47 |
| Hew | maco: That's already been asked, I was saying it should still be triaged as usual. | 04:48 |
| Hew | duanedesign: Well bug 307797 I don't think needs to have a blueprint, but it needs some clarification as to what the user is requesting. Do they want an option to play a test sound through a specific channel? Are they familiar with speaker-test? Maybe they want something along those lines. | 04:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307797 in gnome-media "visual feedback for volume control" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307797 | 04:48 |
| duanedesign | I think the Importance of the bugs should be set to Wishlist Bug #307715 | 04:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307715 in ufw "ufw should support a quiet option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307715 | 04:58 |
| duanedesign | I think the Importance of the bugs should be set to Wishlist Bug #307684 | 04:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307684 in transmission "Transmission should not verify all data when restarted after forced exit by logout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307684 | 04:59 |
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| BoogieBoo | Hello all again | 10:34 |
| BoogieBoo | I am still unable to setup the VPN connection to a PPTP server!! I installed again Ubuntu 8.10 32 bits, so this is a brand new installation; I installed network-manager-pptp and pptp-linux pakets, I configured a new VPN connection, I restarted Ubuntu, but while trying to conenct I get again: "Connection Failed", This is reallly a CRAP | 10:35 |
| BoogieBoo | Can anyone help me, this was working perfectly before Interdipd came up, now I can't use Ubuntu to work, since I can't access my work place | 10:36 |
| BoogieBoo | Any help with this anoying bug? | 10:46 |
| YoBoY | hi | 10:49 |
| YoBoY | i'm trying to understand how to help with bug triaging and making a translation of your great tutorial in french, and i have a question, am i on the right chan for this? | 10:51 |
| BoogieBoo | I just want to use Ubuntu to work as I used before intrepid, but NOW I CANT, VPN connection: "Connection FAILED" | 10:52 |
| Arby | YoBoY: you are, but there probably aren't many people around on a sunday morning | 10:55 |
| YoBoY | ^^ | 10:55 |
| YoBoY | well it's near 12h here :p i forgot this little time différence | 10:56 |
| YoBoY | i'll ask later :) | 10:56 |
| randomaction | YoBoY: there's also #ubuntu-translators | 10:56 |
| Arby | Sundays are always quiet | 10:56 |
| Arby | also last week was UDS, a lot of people probably won't be back in action until monday | 10:57 |
| YoBoY | randomaction: it's not the translation the problem but the comprehension of the process ^^ | 10:57 |
| YoBoY | it's the part in Confirming the bugs, where the triager have to change the "Assigned to" field to "Nobody", i don't understand why :p | 10:59 |
| Arby | YoBoY: if the bug is assigned to you it means you are actively working on it | 11:00 |
| Arby | by setting it to triaged and unassigning the triager you are telling the developer that it is ready for them to try and find a fix | 11:01 |
| YoBoY | ok :) perfect | 11:01 |
| Arby | otherwise the developer will see the triager assigned and think they intend to fix the bug themselves | 11:01 |
| YoBoY | i add a note in my translation to explain this :) tanks | 11:02 |
| Arby | no problem | 11:02 |
| BoogieBoo | Can anyone please help me with VPN connection? | 11:03 |
| BoogieBoo | I have been trying to solve this for weeks | 11:03 |
| BoogieBoo | This is a deadend, that's my filling using UBuntu/Linux, you cant find official help, and on IRC you have to be lucky... | 11:04 |
| YoBoY | bye, see you soon ^^ | 11:05 |
| Nafallo | https://shop.canonical.com/support.php <-- if that's not official I'm not sure what is. | 11:06 |
| BoogieBoo | whateve | 11:07 |
| BoogieBoo | I won't get anything staying here... | 11:13 |
| MrKanister | Hi. I think the bug #247758 should be set to "wishlist" but I'm not 100% sure. Can somebody please have a look at it? | 13:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 247758 in gnome-panel "GNOME clock: No multiple time zones" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247758 | 13:31 |
| MrKanister | !ping | 14:04 |
| ubottu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 14:04 |
| MrKanister | Hi. I think the bug #247758 should be set to "wishlist" but I'm not 100% sure. Can somebody please have a look at it? | 14:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 247758 in gnome-panel "GNOME clock: No multiple time zones" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247758 | 14:23 |
| Rocket2DMn | MrKanister, done | 14:29 |
| MrKanister | Rocket2DMn: Thank you | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | bug #277924 can someone please let me know if its ready for triage? | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277924 in linux "kernel cannot find map file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277924 | 15:40 |
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| bef0rd | Hello, I would like to report a bug, but I'm not sure against what package. When using the DarkRoom theme, filezilla becomes unusable because the file listing controls use almost the same color for background and text. | 17:21 |
| andresmujica | ubuntu-artwork | 17:52 |
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| bef0rd | thanks. | 18:06 |
| andresmujica | np, you can filled it against filezilla too, in some cases the bug is present in the software (don't take the color from the right parameter) which bug # is it? | 18:17 |
| bef0rd | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/307910 | 18:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307910 in ubuntu-artwork "filezilla becomes unusable with DarkRoom theme" [Undecided,New] | 18:23 |
| bef0rd | ouch, that attachment is huge, let me replace it | 18:24 |
| bef0rd | done | 18:28 |
| andresmujica | perfect, | 18:43 |
| andresmujica | just found the existing bug for that issue at launchpad and upstream | 18:44 |
| andresmujica | it seems to be an issue with wxwidgets. | 18:44 |
| andresmujica | reflected in mozilla | 18:44 |
| andresmujica | check bug #284755 | 18:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 284755 in wxwidgets2.8 "Filezilla and the New Human Theme" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/284755 | 18:44 |
| andresmujica | http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3876 | 18:49 |
| bef0rd | I see, thanks | 19:06 |
| andresmujica | how can i find why a module wasn't included in intrepid? | 19:46 |
| andresmujica | i mean in hardy the module was in linux-ubuntu-modules | 19:47 |
| andresmujica | now that package is nonexistant, as far as i know everything moved into linux-image.. | 19:47 |
| jenom | Hi there | 19:55 |
| andresmujica | hi | 20:01 |
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| maco | asac: is NM *supposed* to stay connected to my wireless when I plug in an ethernet cable, or is it a bug that it is currently connected on *both* interfaces? | 21:36 |
| greg-g | known bug I think | 21:40 |
| maco | ohok | 21:43 |
| greg-g | I know there is a known bug about issues when you have wired and wireless connected | 21:43 |
| greg-g | not sure of specifics as I haven't dealt with it | 21:43 |
| maco | ok | 21:51 |
| maco | i was gonna test intrepid's iwl3945 with WEP (he asked me to before) and then dd-wrt locked when i told it to make another interface for WEP, and then i connected wired and now i cant get to the router through the wired connection because of this | 21:52 |
| greg-g | well that is lame | 21:54 |
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| xubuntusdi | salve a tutti | 22:30 |
| maco | xubuntusdi: #ubuntu-it | 22:31 |
| xubuntusdi | ciao maco so di ubuntu-it ma questo è il canale dei bugs? | 22:35 |
| maco | oh um...:( | 22:37 |
| charlie-tca | !it | 22:37 |
| ubottu | Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare) | 22:37 |
| xubuntusdi | hello MACO are aware of the channel ubuntu-it but this is the channel of bugs? | 22:38 |
| xubuntusdi | Excuse me | 22:38 |
| maco | Non penso che ci sia una scanalatura dell'insetto per italiano. Abbiamo appena questo, ma usiamo solitamente l'inglese. E sto usando il Internet per tradurre questo. | 22:38 |
| xubuntusdi | I wanted to participate segnalezione some bugs :\ :p | 22:39 |
| xubuntusdi | I wanted to participate to report some bugs | 22:40 |
| maco | bug reports are supposed to be done in english. but if you pair up with an english-speaker in #ubuntu-it (ex: LjL), you can get your bug translated | 22:40 |
| maco | bugs go on http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 22:40 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: hai bisogno? | 22:44 |
| xubuntusdi | yes but it has taken me not to post to this channel | 22:47 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: per un minuto possiamo fare un'eccezione, penso | 22:47 |
| xubuntusdi | especially in Italian | 22:48 |
| xubuntusdi | :D | 22:48 |
| maco | xubuntusdi: that's why i told LjL to visit. he speaks italian. | 22:48 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi, quindi dimmi pure, se posso ti aiuto, se non posso traduco per gli altri | 22:51 |
| xubuntusdi | problemi con scheda wifi ipn2220 , dopo un testing di un anno sulle versioni 7.04 7.10 ho notato che ndiswrapper... | 22:52 |
| xubuntusdi | non viene scritto in modprobe | 22:53 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: ok, di wireless ne so poco o niente, so giusto che ndiswrapper server per usare i driver di windows | 22:53 |
| xubuntusdi | anche se edito manualmente non ne vuole sapere di avviarsi all'avvio | 22:53 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: ma in qualche modo alla fine riesci a caricarlo? | 22:54 |
| LjL | tipo con modprobe? | 22:54 |
| xubuntusdi | con 8.04 e 8.10 il problema sembra l'abbiano risolto solo in ubuntu ma non xubuntu | 22:54 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: mi sembrerebbe strano però, se ho capito bene si tratta semplicemente di moduli del kernel... che differenza dovrebbe esserci tra ubuntu e xubuntu? | 22:55 |
| xubuntusdi | il problema che malgrado la modifica del network-manager il dchpclient non và più | 22:55 |
| xubuntusdi | credo che sia il solito problema di ubuntu che ha con il protocollo wpa | 22:56 |
| xubuntusdi | o con rete fastweb?? | 22:56 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: fastweb non vedo che possa entrarci, sul WPA ammetto che non so niente | 22:58 |
| xubuntusdi | inquanto fatica a connettersi e dopo pochi intanti si disconnette, con la possibilità che non si riconnetta più | 22:58 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: ma xubuntu usa network manager? | 22:58 |
| xubuntusdi | si | 22:58 |
| xubuntusdi | purtroppo non capisco perchè continuino a mettercelo invece di wicd | 22:59 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: senti, fammi una ricapitolazione | 22:59 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: descrivimi il problema e su che sistemi l'hai avuto come se io non ne sapessi assolutamente niente | 23:00 |
| xubuntusdi | cmq adesso come dicevo prima denoto un problema (e pure grosso) di dhcpclient | 23:00 |
| LjL | (cosa non molto lontana dalla realtà) | 23:00 |
| xubuntusdi | ok | 23:01 |
| xubuntusdi | devi sapere che la scheda wifi con chip ipn2220 e un STR.... | 23:02 |
| xubuntusdi | infatti funziona solo con driver di windws | 23:02 |
| xubuntusdi | quindi si è costretti ad usare ndiswrapper per farla funzionare, purtroppo però non sempre ubuntu memorizza nel modprobe l'avvio automatico del driver della scheda | 23:04 |
| xubuntusdi | quindi la maggior parte delle volte bignona avviarla da terminale | 23:05 |
| xubuntusdi | dicevo che questo problema con la versione 8.10 sembra l'abbiano risolto su ubutnu ma xubuntu no | 23:06 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: ok, primo, per avviarla da terminale come fai? secondo, dove hai letto/sentito che su ubuntu è risolto? (se c'è già un bug aperto, sarebbe meglio sfruttarlo) | 23:06 |
| xubuntusdi | in più con le nuove versioni ho problemi a stabilire il collegamento con il mio ruter di fastweb sembra che c sia un bug nel dhcpclient non credi? | 23:07 |
| xubuntusdi | quindi? | 23:08 |
| xubuntusdi | sfruttarlo? | 23:09 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi, quindi rispondi alla domanda, primo :) | 23:09 |
| xubuntusdi | ok | 23:09 |
| xubuntusdi | depmod -a | 23:12 |
| xubuntusdi | ndiswrapper -m | 23:12 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: uhm, è necessario anche il depmod -a se no non va? :o | 23:13 |
| xubuntusdi | e infine modprobe ndiswrapper | 23:15 |
| xubuntusdi | a questo punto la scheda parte | 23:16 |
| xubuntusdi | ma dopo il riavvio è come se non avessi fatto niente | 23:16 |
| xubuntusdi | devo ripetere tutto | 23:16 |
| LjL | capito | 23:16 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: faccio un riassuntino in inglese per gli altri e poi cerco se c'è già qualcosa su launchpad, ok? | 23:17 |
| xubuntusdi | ok | 23:17 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi has a wifi card with IPN2220 chip, which needs ndiswrapper to work, but most of the times the driver isn't loaded automatically when Ubuntu is started | 23:18 |
| LjL | so most of the time it has to be started manually from the terminal | 23:18 |
| LjL | it "seems" that the problem has been solved on Intrepid / Ubuntu, but not Xubuntu | 23:18 |
| LjL | (this probably deserves a search on the bug reports) | 23:18 |
| LjL | to load it manually, it's depmod -a ; ndiswrapper -m ; modprobe ndiswrapper | 23:18 |
| LjL | the other thing is that when it does connect, it disconnects very easily - he thinks there might be a (separate?) problem with dhcpclient | 23:24 |
| maco | disconnects are not dhclient's fault. that's just driver instability | 23:25 |
| maco | it's probably losing packets | 23:25 |
| maco | that makes network manager think its disconnected, and then it starts over trying to reconnect | 23:26 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: maco dice che le disconnessioni non sono colpa di dhclient, è semplicemente il driver che è instabile, probabilmente perde dei pacchetti. per questo motivo network manager pensa di essersi disconnesso e riprova a connettersi da capo | 23:28 |
| xubuntusdi | quindi cosa faccio | 23:29 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: be' visto che sei qui, suppongo che l'intenzione fosse di segnalare un bug? | 23:30 |
| xubuntusdi | si infatti | 23:31 |
| xubuntusdi | cosa mi consigli di fare? | 23:32 |
| crimsun | that seems a bit odd, really. Are you certain it's not a race condition? | 23:34 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: fammi fumare una sigaretta poi ti preparo un bug report e te lo metto in pastebin | 23:34 |
| LjL | crimsun, i hope you're asking maco, because i haven't the slighest idea how to translate "race condition" ;P | 23:34 |
| crimsun | Do we have dmesgs and /var/log/daemon.logs from Ubuntu 8.10 and Xubuntu 8.10 to compare? | 23:34 |
| xubuntusdi | anche a me LjL | 23:34 |
| xubuntusdi | mi devo spostare per qualche minuto | 23:35 |
| xubuntusdi | devo fumare fuori | 23:35 |
| LjL | crimsun: not from me, i'm on Hardy, i'll tell him to get his Xubuntu ones | 23:35 |
| pckchem | Hey does anyone have the launchpad greasemonkey scripts working in Firefox 3.0.4 ? | 23:35 |
| maco | pckchem: yes, but they break the +filebug pages | 23:36 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: crimsun dice se puoi prepararci anche un paste di /var/log/daemon.log (magari subito dopo aver connesso la scheda e aspettato che si disconnetta da sola) | 23:36 |
| pckchem | maco: Hmm, well I just got around to installing them since I installed intrepid, but they are not working :( | 23:44 |
| maco | pckchem: the stock reply one works fine for me... | 23:45 |
| maco | pckchem: the one for showing people's group icons does too | 23:45 |
| pckchem | maco: Hmm.... I'll try to get them to work again. Maybe I installed them wrong... | 23:47 |
| maco | maybe restart ff after intalling them | 23:47 |
| xubuntusdi | ok LjL farò così | 23:48 |
| maco | mmmm cosi | 23:48 |
| xubuntusdi | lo devo postare quì | 23:48 |
| xubuntusdi | ? | 23:48 |
| LjL | no, su http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ | 23:48 |
| xubuntusdi | e poi? | 23:48 |
| LjL | se Konqueror mi si sblocca poi, aiutrebbe | 23:48 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: per caso hai dovuto mai mettere in blacklist il modulo "bcm"? | 23:50 |
| pckchem | Maco: wierd. When I loaded them through firefox they work... | 23:50 |
| xubuntusdi | no | 23:51 |
| pckchem | Guess installing them from command line doesn't work right... | 23:51 |
| maco | pckchem: how else would you do it | 23:51 |
| pckchem | terminal | 23:51 |
| pckchem | I use the bzr branch to keep current | 23:51 |
| pckchem | Have a cript that copies them from bzr branch to user profile | 23:52 |
| xubuntusdi | nella blacklist ci vanno i driver (moduli) non compatibili per il pc o che nn servono | 23:52 |
| maco | en america, "cosí" es l'nome d'un cafe | 23:52 |
| maco | pckchem: oh, interesting | 23:53 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: lo so, ma siccome avevo trovato un altro bug sul chip ipn2220 in cui il tizio diceva che aveva dovuto mettere quel modulo in blacklist... | 23:53 |
| xubuntusdi | se l'ho metto nella blacklist di sicuro non me l'ho carica all'avvio | 23:54 |
| LjL | xubuntusdi: qui c'è quello che ho scritto, dimmi se ti suona http://paste.ubuntu.com/85354/ - maco, crimsun too, draft bug report | 23:54 |
| xubuntusdi | ok | 23:54 |
| xubuntusdi | vado | 23:54 |
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