[00:01] <t3ckn0b0y> when running apt-get to purge mythbuntu-desktop it has no depends shouldnt cause any problem updating
[02:55] <heyheyhey> anyone install mythtube plugin?
[03:42] <foxbuntu> heyheyhey, I have not, but I hear it works for the most part
[03:43] <superm1> isn't that the new plugin?
[03:43] <foxbuntu> superm1, yes.
[03:43] <superm1> whats it do?
[03:43] <foxbuntu> heyheyhey, I think its only supported in .22
[03:43] <foxbuntu> superm1, more the same, rss magic for YouTube
[03:44] <foxbuntu> but has the ability to plugin new feeds
[03:44] <superm1> rss feed to the h264 files?
[03:44] <foxbuntu> idk
[03:45] <superm1> slacker?
[03:46] <foxbuntu> superm1, I actually have been considering using it to create a patch to unify several plugins to one
[03:46] <foxbuntu> superm1, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5589
[03:47] <superm1> i hope it actually makes it in as an official plugin and doesnt just live off that bug for a long time
[03:48] <foxbuntu> indeed
[03:48] <foxbuntu> you could help me dive into it :)
[03:51] <foxbuntu> superm1, I think there is a pretty good push on it from talking to gbee and justinh
[03:59] <superm1> good
[03:59] <superm1> do you know what pre-empted that packaging branch ?
[04:00] <superm1> i wonder if it's so they can do binaries at release on their own buildd's or something
[04:00] <superm1> if so, that'd be pretty sweet
[04:10] <hads> superm1: Na I think it's just becuase IJR doesn't like packaging crap in the main tree so that was created as a comprimise.
[04:11] <superm1> well what's the point of it being there though?
[04:11] <superm1> just a centralized location i suppose for users to be able to grab from
[04:12] <hads> Was xris that created it I think, can't remember exactly what for. It was suggested that the win32 and mac build scripts are moved there etc.
[04:13] <hads> Looking through my log xris created to put his RPM spec file in.
[04:13] <superm1> well it would be nice for users to have a nice click-me-to-build-packages.sh that went with 0.22 then that branched the appropriate packaging branch and did all that stuff for people
[04:59] <Anusien> what network manager comes installed by default with Mythbuntu?
[05:26] <foxbuntu> Anusien, the normal one, there is only one
[05:34] <Anusien> foxbuntu: what's it called?
[05:34] <Anusien> And when I say "network manager" I mean "a graphical tool to configure the NIC"
[05:36] <foxbuntu> Anusien, yes...thats exactly what I mean
[05:36] <foxbuntu> Anusien, nm-applet
[05:36] <foxbuntu> is what you are referring to
[05:37] <foxbuntu> its the little Computer looking icon next to the clock
[05:38] <Anusien> Thanks!
[05:38] <foxbuntu> np
[05:38] <Anusien> I'm no longe rrunning the default desktop; I switched to kde and I couldn't very well tell my friend to run KNetworkManager
[05:54] <ltracy> !help
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[10:23] <zetheroo> ﻿I installed Mythbuntu on my Ubuntu system sorta without knowing what it was ... and I want to get rid of the entire thing ... how do I do that?
[10:24] <zetheroo> ﻿when I try to remove mythbuntu from Synaptic it does not take all the other files with it
[10:24] <laga> what other files?
[10:25] <zetheroo> well there was over 100MB of data that was downloaded and installed when I installed it ....
[10:25] <zetheroo> I want to completely remove it all
[10:26] <laga> it should be removed automatically if you remove mythbuntu-desktop..
[10:26] <zetheroo> when I mark mythbuntu-desktop for removal nothing else gets marked along with it
[10:27] <laga> odd.. wait for superm1, he probably knows more
[10:27] <laga> or someone else :)
[10:27] <zetheroo> oh ok
[10:28] <zetheroo> is there a list of files somewhere that I can go by and manually remove them one by one?
[10:28] <laga> zetheroo: yeah, look at the dependencies of mythbuntu-desktop
[10:29] <zetheroo> well hmmm
[10:29] <zetheroo> ha ... some of the things it depends on I would not want to remove
[10:29] <zetheroo> like its got alsa in there
[10:30] <zetheroo> its hard to know with some of these packages ... whether I can go without them or not
[10:31] <laga> it should have marked some of these packages as "installed automatically" so they can be removed if the last package which depends on them is removed
[10:32] <zetheroo> yeah
[10:32] <laga> apt-get autoremove might do what you want, but make sure to inspect the list of packages it's going to remove before you make yourself unhappy. be careful.
[10:34] <zetheroo> I don't need xfce packages right?
[10:35] <laga> if you don't use xfce..
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[13:13] <ej> hello. i have a few issues with a fresh 8.10 install that I hope someone in here can help me with
[13:13] <laga> !ask | ej
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[13:14] <ej> ok thanks. i dont use irc very often.
[13:16] <ej> i upgraded to 8.10 and mythweb broke (php I think is the problem) so I burned a fresh iso of 8.10
[13:18] <ej> ran through the install with no issues but mythweb still doesnt work on the fresh install and i couldnt get the change-channel-lirc.pl script to work with the mceusb that wrked fine in 8.04
[13:18] <ej> the cards work cuz I tested it with cat and mplayer
[13:19] <ej> livetv woudlnt work either but I think that is because of the channel change script problem
[13:22] <ej> im using the old mceusb to a pioneer stb - it worked immediately in 7.10 and when i upgraded to 8.04 and in 8.10. i have a pvvr-150 and a pvr350 installed and working
[13:23] <ej> i think its a php issue since apache is working and i put a phpinfo script at the root and it didnt work
[13:26] <ej> im hoping this is a common problem with an easy fix. otherwise i may just burn an 8.04 iso and try that
[13:27] <laga> well, try fixing php ;)
[13:28] <ej> lol. i did and thats why i needed a reinstall
[13:30] <ej> i tried removing and reinstalling to no avail. it was working fine until the upgrade - although i added phpmyadmin and that worked. maybe it was an apache conf issue. i added mythweb through the control center
[13:32] <laga> yeah, that's possible
[13:32] <laga> maybe /etc/apache2/sites-available/mythweb* got broken
[13:33] <ej> could be. i looked at it and it *looked* ok. i didnt overwrite and conf files during the upgrade
[13:34] <laga> you could purge mythweb and install it again
[13:35] <ej> did that. purge apache and php too and reinstalled. must be something I am missing in the setup that used to be automatic
[13:35] <ej> i appreciate teh help btw
[13:36] <ej> i could understand that maybe there was something odd from upgrading a few times and something broke in the apache/php/mythweb setup somewhere but i wouldnt expect to have the problem with a fresh install too
[13:41] <ej> i also tried a knoppmyth iso to see if that would work - its not as easy as mythbuntu to setup. its installing now. if it works then ill go back to 8.10 and try that again
[15:33] <zabbadapp> did the last ubuntu v4l update break the IR-receiver for T-500 for anyone?
[15:56] <MythbuntuGuest42> new to irc and linux in general, need a little help please...
[16:01] <laga> !ask  | MythbuntuGuest42
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[16:03] <culinarian> ok, I set up mythbuntu and mythtv and somwhere along the way I changed the theme as well as the resolution, not I am not able to view the entire menu screen. is there some way to do a default reset or something?
[16:04] <laga> culinarian: mythfrontend --reset
[16:04] <culinarian> <-- was guest 42
[16:04] <laga> ah
[16:06] <culinarian> the only things I see available from my mythbuntu desktop are control center -backend setup and run frontend...
[16:07] <laga> get a terminal and enter it there
[16:08] <culinarian> term--> mythfrontend <space>--reset?
[16:09] <laga> yes
[16:10] <culinarian> cool, looks like it worked... thanks for the help
[16:10] <gregL> laga: Have you ever seen this error when running mythweb? Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 71 bytes) in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/tv/classes/Program.php on line 295
[16:11] <laga> yes. but i don't know how i solved it :)
[16:12] <gregL> Ok, yeah i have googled it and tried just about every thing suggested..I may have to get kormoc to help me with that..thanks
[16:12] <ej> ok - i reinstalled 8.10 and figured out the mythweb problem - i changed the port but didnt change it everywhere it needed. doh!
[16:13] <ej> gregl - i think its the memory limit in php
[16:13] <laga> ej: read the error message again ;)
[16:14] <gregL> ej: yeah ,tried that..
[16:15] <ej> i guess what i was thinking o is when u search on mythweb and it hits the limit
[16:16] <gregL> Everything works except when clicking the listings tab...That's when i get the error
[16:20] <ej> im now working on the channel-change-lirc part. i copied the scripts from the contrib dir to /usr/local/bin.   and changed the remote name to mceusb  but it still doesnt work and livetv will not start
[16:47] <gregL> laga: I increased the memory from 16 to 32 M in the php.ini and it works now...Strange thing is i did it before and it didn't work...
[16:52] <ej> gregl great
[16:55] <ej> ok - should there be scipts in the /usr/local/bin/  ? i cannot get the channel change working. i have the old mceusb with the transmitter. in the infrared section i selected mce usb old version and for the transmitter i selected mceusb pioneer. in the change-channel-lirc.pl script i changed the name to mceusb but it doesnt work.
[16:56] <ej> would livetv not work because of this?
[16:58] <gregL> Yeah, If i don't have my script up and running so it will change the stb to the start channel it won't start live tv..
[16:58] <gregL> It's usually a permission problem..
[16:59] <ej> ok - ill check that. i chmod +x already
[16:59] <gregL> try it from the command line and see if it works..
[17:00] <ej> i was trying that but couldnt quite get it right. i can run the change-channel-lirc.pl from the command line but it doesnt do anything
[17:01] <ej> the script is owned by root and is executable
[17:02] <gregL> try running the backend mythbackend -v most and see what error you get..
[17:02] <ej> ok. ill see what i get. thx
[17:02] <gregL> oh: should be owned by the user you run mythtv with
[17:05] <moj0rising> Hi. can anyone here tell me how to change the keyring password in mythdora?
[17:05] <gregL> try mythdora forum
[17:18] <moj0rising> yeah. checked that and can't find it there or on google. weird
[17:24] <ej> i got a little farther. livetv works and usiing the .pl script it thinks its changing the channel but it isnt. the sh script just doesnt work and the backend exits
[17:26] <ej> for the chnnel change command in the setup i entered: sudo /usr/local/bin/change-channel-lirc.pl
[17:42] <t3ckn0b0y> is there a way to use the program guide icons with the program finder? where the black box just shows the channel name in text.
[18:54] <alien_> mce remote blaster fails several times a day...the receiver always works, but the blaster will die for no apparent reason and I can never find anything in the logs. Had the problem with 7.10, but found a workaround...fresh installed 8.10 and I cant get it to work. Anyone had this issue before?
[18:56] <toorima> was gonna upgrade my box and got this, The following packages have been kept back: xfdesktop4-data
[18:56] <toorima> so ran dist-upgrade and got this
[18:56] <toorima> The following packages will be REMOVED: mythbuntu-desktop xfdesktop4
[18:56] <toorima> The following packages will be upgraded: xfdesktop4-data
[18:56] <toorima> just want to check that its safe first
[18:56] <toorima> or should I just wait and run upgrade again later?
[19:22] <sat> Installing latest version - stuck in step 11: mythtv related password. Test connection is failed and i dont have option to skip this stage without testing success
[19:33] <tgm4883_laptop> sat, you need to enter your master backend details
[19:33] <sat> thanks for the repsonse. but need more help : this is my first installation and I'm hoping to set up my backend through this process.
[20:06] <tgm4883_laptop> sat, do you have a backend machine in your network?
[20:06] <sat> not at this point, this is my first set pu
[20:06] <sat> i'm trying again by going through advanced installation set up and delibrately choosing primary backend + front end option
[20:06] <tgm4883_laptop> are you planning on having multiple mythtv machines in your network?
[20:06] <foxbuntu> sat, then you are doing the wrong type of install
[20:07] <foxbuntu> sat, thats the correct install method
[20:07] <sat> gotcha fox!
[20:54] <squish102> how do i tell what architecture my mythbuntu is running?
[21:31] <Trepidation> did folks get around the issues on the pvr500 cards with the new tuners on them?
[21:32] <alien_> Am I visible? Just checking...I'm new to IRC
[21:33] <Trepidation> affirmative
[21:34] <alien_> thanks
[22:00] <tgm4883_laptop> Trepidation, issues?
[22:00] <tgm4883_laptop> squish102, uname -m
[22:02] <squish102> thanks tgm4883_laptop, i was confused. dunno y i installed i686 on an amd64 chip!
[22:06] <Trepidation> nah, getting back into it. I dabbled, but right after I bought my pvr500 I found out they changed hardware on the components
[22:07] <Trepidation> there were a lot of odd issues folks had, I think one of the other issues people mentioned that the single input to two tuners got weakened some how
[22:07] <Trepidation> caused inadequacies for the picture and whatnot, which it did look pretty terrible on my setup
[22:08] <Trepidation> I live in a hole, so not sure what has improved
[22:24] <massabuntu> Hi, i've a working and alredy setted mythtv system in my home.  Now i'm istalling another on my father home, ther's a way to copy the settings i made on my channel list (xmltv) and copy to my father's system saving a lot lot of time??
[22:24] <massabuntu> thanks
[23:33] <alien_> mce remote blaster fails several times a day...the receiver always works, but the blaster will die for no apparent reason and I can never find anything in the logs. Had the problem with 7.10, but found a workaround...fresh installed 8.10 and I cant get it to work. Anyone had this issue before?