[00:00] <Draceee> "you must manually run dpkg --configure -a
[00:00] <psilocyde> therealnanotube: yeah, sounds like a bug to me
[00:00] <eseven73> do that then
[00:00] <Draceee> it says i need superuser privilages
[00:00] <eseven73> put sudo first
[00:00] <deaf> Hello
[00:00] <deaf> what is ubuntu ?
[00:00] <eseven73> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[00:00] <eseven73> !ubuntu
[00:01] <deaf> Okay
[00:01] <Draceee> ok
[00:01] <deaf> all are bot ?
[00:01] <Draceee> synaptic is up
[00:01] <ryxxed> !wat
[00:01] <rustybox> anyone know how to get the xbox360 controller running in Ibex?
[00:01] <eseven73> ok Draceee now just search for JRE and look for JRE 6 stuff
[00:01] <eseven73> and install them
[00:02] <almark1> Hello room, does anyone in here use Blender in Ubuntu, if so could I ask for your advice in getting it to work without crashing?
[00:02] <Draceee> installing the Java plugin
[00:03] <ToddEDM> !flash 64
[00:03] <ToddEDM> !flash
[00:03] <ryxxed> flash 64
[00:03] <eseven73> ok Draceee , that should work, if not you might have to install the other JRE 6 stuff
[00:03] <ryxxed> just use gnash swf player when the firefox gives you a list of plugins
[00:03] <ryxxed> worked for me
[00:04] <ryxxed> i don't recommend watching HQ porn on it, though
[00:04] <Draceee> ok sweet
[00:04] <Draceee> it worked
[00:04] <eseven73> :)
[00:04] <spydon> where can I get mkfs.jffs2 for ubuntu? :P
[00:04] <kristian1> I have a problem i've been trying to figure out for 2 days now. I need help! Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84967/
[00:04] <Draceee> Ty
[00:05] <eseven73> yw
[00:05] <lencooley> hello?
[00:05] <ToddEDM> hi
[00:05] <sztomi> hi all
[00:05] <ryxxed> !hello
[00:06] <lencooley> New ubuntu user, here.
[00:06] <ryxxed> didn't know that !hello actually existed
[00:06] <eseven73> !ask
[00:06] <ToddEDM> !bye
[00:06] <Flannel> Howdy lencooley, how can we help you today?
[00:06] <sztomi> I was going to ask a question about 8.10 and nVidia. Is this the right place?
[00:06] <ToddEDM> how do i get Flash working on 64bit  ubuntu?
[00:07] <exodus_ms> sztomi, go for it :)
[00:07] <illissius> hi. could anyone using intrepid send me the contents of their /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin?
[00:07] <ryxxed> sztomi : faulty resolution?
[00:07] <lencooley> Well, I most things seem to be running smoothly, except I have no sound.  Apparently, ubuntu isn't recongonizng my sound card
[00:07] <rustybox> ToddEDM, there's a 64bit flash beta you should be able to google
[00:07] <exodus_ms> !nvidia
[00:07] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: what was that command to kill gdm again?
[00:07] <sztomi> ok. I was told that there are some issues with nvidia drivers. I got a newer card (8500GT). Is it gonna work on my system?
[00:07] <Flannel> illissius: if you reinstall gdm, you'll have that file recreated
[00:07] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[00:08] <kristian1> I have a problem i've been trying to figure out for 2 days now. I need help! Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84967/
[00:08] <rustybox> anyone know how to get the xbox360 controller running in 64bit Ibex?
[00:08] <illissius> Flannel: yeah, I don't have gdm installed and don't want to install it
[00:08] <sztomi> (brb)
[00:08] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[00:08] <illissius> I want to check if it matches with kdm-np, in case that's why kdm autologin isn't working
[00:08] <\Kira> were does crontab send the output mail to?
[00:09] <rustybox> sztomi, I have an nvidia card, it works alright
[00:09] <zex> Hi!
[00:09] <\Kira> or just cron, sorry
[00:09] <lencooley> If someone responded, I didn't catch it.
[00:09] <fushorts> anyone know how to get a different wallpaper for each desktop?  or is it not possible?
[00:09] <\Kira> !hi | zex
[00:09] <ToddEDM> thx rustybox
[00:09] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: that might work. i just use   Xorg -configure   myself
[00:09] <ryxxed> sztomi : i have a mx 440 workign with ubuntu
[00:09] <ryxxed> using medium desktop effects
[00:09] <ryxxed> it has 64 MB VRAM
[00:09] <ryxxed> i think you're graphic's card will do fine
[00:09] <zex> I come here for the first time
[00:09] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: i get command not found with xorg-configure
[00:10] <UnknownUser56> kristian1,connect manually,I never like Network manager
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: it's exactly as i types it..    Xorg - configure
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> typed*
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> oops
[00:10] <\Kira> zex: please, zex. This is a support channel. If you want to talk off-topic, try #ubuntu--offtopic
[00:10] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: it's exactly as i types it..    Xorg -configure
[00:10] <rustybox> i'm trying run the command "make" and I'm getting this: Makefile:11: *** unterminated call to function `shell': missing `)'.  Stop.
[00:10] <zex> offtopic
[00:10] <danopia> has anyone here set up a dualseat?
[00:11] <Flannel> illissius: You could download the deb, and unpack it to grab that file
[00:11] <\Kira> zex: or, that channel was actually called #ubuntu-offtopic. I put in a extra hyphen.
[00:11] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: i get fatal server error  unrecognized option : -
[00:11] <zex> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <\Kira> that one
[00:11] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: my first one had a space where it shouldn't have....    Xorg -configure
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: and proceed it with the sudo command
[00:12] <seyfarth> random question - is there a keyboard shortcut that will switch between the two desktops?
[00:12] <zex> how can I chat with you
[00:12] <\Kira> me?
[00:12] <Putera41> [Jumlah User Di ubuntu 1373] (1 op = 0%) (0 voice = 0%) (0 uop = 0%) (1372 regular = 100%) (::+:: Vèrsí Pú†erá ::+::)
[00:12] <zex> yes?
[00:12] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: sudo Xorg -configure
[00:12] <\Kira> try clicking on my name
[00:12] <zex> I did it
[00:12] <dmajnem2> how do I get x-terminal-emulator to change per user?
[00:12] <dmajnem2> or is this not possible?
[00:12] <illissius> Flannel: yeah, i guess.
[00:12] <ryxxed> ext3 resizing - safe?
[00:13] <Blice> Hi, at the recovery menu, I can't press the up/down arrows. It just gives me characters and stuff. How do I do this?
[00:13] <Blice> Is there any other way to boot into single-user mode without the recovery menu?
[00:13] <UnknownUser56> Kristian1,do these commands ,but run as system first ( sudo -i ) ,http://paste.ubuntu.com/84968/
[00:13] <Flannel> !sound | lencooley
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:13] <infosoak> Hi. If I have a top level directory A with a bunch of files and subdirectories in it, and I want to set the permissions of all directories to be 755 and files to be 644, what is the fastest way to do it at the command line? Thanks.
[00:13] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: it worked and now i get saw signal 11 server aborting when i try to test it
[00:14] <ToddEDM> .
[00:14] <lencooley> No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found. is what it says
[00:14] <dft> infosoak: chmod -R 644 <topdir>
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> infosoak: chmod -R 644
[00:14] <infosoak> Oh, ok. That will make directories 755 too?
[00:14] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: oh? well, i don't know that the fglrx driver even works with kernel-2.6.27. is that the kernal that you have?
[00:14] <dft> infosoak: no
[00:15] <yeahbuddy> command to see kernal version
[00:15] <dft> infosoak: all files and directories will go 744
[00:15] <[TiZ]> Hey, what does ^C mean? Some guide for installing DAZ Studio in Wine wants me to press it.
[00:15] <dft> 744/644
[00:15] <raylu> [TiZ]: ctrl+c
[00:15] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy:  dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.*
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: its ctrl+c
[00:15] <magikid> can someone help me figure out why PuTTy keeps telling me there are no valid authentication schemes?
[00:15] <\Kira> whats the ubuntu chinese support channel?
[00:16] <yeahbuddy> 2.6.27-9.19
[00:16] <Blice> Hi, at the recovery menu, I can't press the up/down arrows. It just gives me characters and stuff. How do I do this?
[00:16] <Flannel> !cn | \Kira
[00:16] <[TiZ]> Blast. They're not doing anything. :/
[00:16] <raylu> currently running kernel: uname -r
[00:16] <\Kira> Flannel: thanks
[00:16] <ToddEDM> hey i downloaded this tar.gz of the 64bit flash..... inside there is a  .so file , what do i do with that
[00:16] <[TiZ]> Oh, I had to press it in my terminal. I'm glad the guide said that.
[00:16] <[TiZ]> That's sarcasm, btw. Thanks, guys. :D
[00:16] <ToddEDM> libflashplayer.so
[00:16] <raylu> ToddEDM: its a compiled library
[00:16] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: yeah, you might as well uninstall the fglrx driver. and when you ran the Xorg -configure x wasn't running was it? i don't think it'll work if x is running anyway, butjust checking
[00:17] <ToddEDM> raylu: what do i do with it???
[00:17] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: when i first installed ubuntu X worked fine.. is there anyway to get back that way..   i ran the kill script before running the command
[00:17] <Blice> Hi, at the recovery menu, I can't press the up/down arrows. It just gives me characters and stuff. How do I do this?
[00:17] <kristian2> i'm having problems with getting ubuntu to automatically connect to my wireless network after rebooting, without login locally. please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/84969/ if you think you can help me out with this! i've been trying for 2 days now. any thoughts are very much appreciated! thanks! :)
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: heck, i wish the fglrx driver WAS working for kernel-2.6.27. i have a HIS IceQ4 4850 HD here...
[00:18] <raylu> Blice: what are "characters and stuff?"
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> ToddEDM: copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[00:18] <phantomcircuit> The authentication windows that have "Remember authentication" are those glib?
[00:18] <magikid> I can't seem to get the pub-key auth working on my ssh server.  PuTTy keeps telling me there are no valid auth schemes available.
[00:18] <Blice> raylu: Like, brackets.
[00:18] <Blice> raylu: I just want to get to the "go into root prompt"
[00:18] <Blice> area
[00:18] <RizR> hello guys. i installed gcc-doc and gcc-<my_version_my_gcc>-doc in intrepid but man pages for c lib functions are still missing. any other package I need installed?
[00:18] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: go to /usr/share/ati... tell me when you're there
[00:19] <raylu> Blice: try using tab
[00:19] <Blice> raylu: Ok, sec.
[00:19] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: there
[00:19] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: ok, is there an  uninstall.sh  there?
[00:19] <phantomcircuit> The authentication windows that have "Remember authentication" are those glib?
[00:19] <raylu> RizR: i think they're in the "manpages" package
[00:19] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: yes
[00:20] <keres> can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd6
[00:20] <RizR> raylu: is that full package name?
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: you will need to run it as root(sudo)...   sudo ./uninstall.sh
[00:20] <raylu> RizR: yes. also, try glibc-doc
[00:20] <almark1> Hello room, is there a way to make my ati radeon 8500 card not crash in Blender while in linux?
[00:20] <sztomi> re. Thanks for the answers. So I don't have to worry :). BTW really nice people here. Keep it up! Thanks again and bye!
[00:20] <RizR> raylu: cheers.
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> keres: sudo apt-get install mesa-common-dev
[00:20] <almark1> oops
[00:21] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: done but it showed some errors
[00:21] <keres> ActionParsnip: already have mesa-common-dev
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: then just wipe out(remove) your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is you want to be certain... then   Xorg -configure
[00:21] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: what is the errors?
[00:21] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: There are no instances of module: fglrx
[00:22] <nrdb> hi, I am building a system using a RAID 1 HHD setup, I was wondering is there any advantage to putting the swap on a RAID 1 partition ?
[00:22] <kristian2> i'm having problems with getting ubuntu to automatically connect to my wireless network after rebooting, without login locally. please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/84969/ if you think you can help me out with this! i've been trying for 2 days now. any thoughts are very much appreciated! thanks! :)
[00:22] <marek_> hi anybody with success with Ata-over-Ethernet?
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: ignore it i guess
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> keres: do you have the file gl.h?
[00:23] <keres> ActionParsnip: i don't know :S
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> keres: find / -name gl.h 2>/dev/null
[00:23] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: do i need to rename xorg.conf.new to just xorg.conf?
[00:23] <raylu> keres: after installing mesa-common-dev, you should rerun configure
[00:23] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: you could always do....   sudo updatedb   ...then     locate fglrx
[00:23] <keres> raylu: how?
[00:23] <raylu> keres: er, what are you compiling?
[00:23] <Blice> raylu: Tab does nothing. Doing arrows prints "^[[B" onto the screen. How the hell do I get into the root bash prompt :'<
[00:23] <danjam> Hi. Im having trouble with DNS on intrepid with my usb modem. Ive set openDNS as primary and secondary nameservers but I can only access sites by IP. Any suggestions?
[00:24] <keres> raylu: netradiant
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: just to let you know, after installing the flgrx driver i always reboot to make sure the kernel can load the module ok
[00:24] <keres> raylu: ./configure?
[00:24] <almark1> are there any blender users in here at this time?
[00:24] <raylu> keres: yes
[00:24] <keres> ActionParsnip: find / -name gl.h 2>/dev/null
[00:24] <keres> i mean, i found it
[00:24] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: i did reboot after installing
[00:24] <marek_> i;m typing "modprobe aoe", but with  tail /var/log/syslog i cant see any action, what might be the cause?
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: ok, good deal
[00:25] <keres> raylu: what's the syntax for that?
[00:25] <Blice> raylu: Tab does nothing. Doing arrows prints "^[[B" onto the screen. How the hell do I get into the root bash prompt :'<
[00:25] <raylu> marek_: what does "modprobe -r aoe" show?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> keres: ok then set PKG_CONFIG_PATH to where it is maybe
[00:25] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: rebooting now
[00:25] <raylu> keres: there is none
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: yes, rename your xorg.conf file
[00:25] <keres> ActionParsnip: how
[00:25] <raylu> Blice: i don't know. it'd be more helpful if you could describe in more detail what you see
[00:25] <keres> raylu: then how do you configure???
[00:25] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: then run the creation command...  Xorg -configure
[00:25] <marek_> raylu FATAL: Error removing aoe (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/kernel/drivers/block/aoe/aoe.ko): Operation not permitted
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> keres: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr/whatever...'
[00:25] <raylu> marek_: er... you need to be root, of course
[00:25] <lazukars> What is the correct way to install Apache on Ubuntu?
[00:25] <raylu> marek_: but basically, it means that aoe is loaded
[00:26] <Kevin> Hi Everyone! I just got a Wordpress & LAMP setup running on an Ubuntu machine and am having some trouble. I can access the Wordpress site on the actual machine by visiting localhost in Firefox. However, I can't access the Wordpress site across my home network (by visiting the IP address). Any ideas?
[00:26] <marek_> ok with sudo, no output raylu
[00:26] <raylu> marek_: you should consider grep-ing instead of tail-ing
[00:26] <raylu> Kevin: what is the Listen directive set to in apache2?
[00:26] <marek_> raylu i even cat it, but with no sign of AoE
[00:26] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: all this because i wanted to play wow on the lappy :)
[00:26] <raylu> marek_: grep -i aoe /var/log/syslog
[00:26] <Kevin> Raylu, Forgive me for my ignorance but I'm new to Linux/Apache so I'm not quite sure.
[00:26] <marek_> considering this: http://www.howtoforge.com/ata_over_ethernet_debian_etch it should be some output
[00:27] <raylu> marek_: also, "sudo dmesg | grep -i aoe"
[00:27] <raylu> Kevin: look in /etc/apache2
[00:27] <marek_> Dec 14 00:23:35 ubuntu kernel: [203761.913600] aoe: AoE v47 initialised.
[00:27] <marek_> Dec 14 00:45:30 ubuntu kernel: [   42.363608] aoe: AoE v47 initialised.
[00:27] <raylu> Kevin: iirc, there's a file called listen.something or ports.something
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: i hear it. it's too bad we have to wait for a driver that works with newer kernel. it does work with 2.26.26... but alas... not 2.6.27
[00:27] <marek_> so it seems it is loaded
[00:27] <keres> ActionParsnip: what's the best syntax for it? i honestly don't know
[00:27] <RizR> raylu: freebsd-manpages did the trick.
[00:27] <raylu> RizR: o.0
[00:27] <marek_> apt-get install aoetools
[00:27] <djolefol> How to print Intrepid cd cover art by oneself? This far no success using Hardy.
[00:28] <yeahbuddy> onetinsoldier: thanks for your help.. i have colors and 1280x800 again :)
[00:28] <raylu> RizR: thanks, i'll probably be needing that soon myself
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: from what i have seen nvdia users are waiting too
[00:28] <kristian2> i'm having problems with getting ubuntu to automatically connect to my wireless network after rebooting, without login locally. please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/84969/ if you think you can help me out with this! i've been trying for 2 days now. any thoughts are very much appreciated! thanks! :)
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> yeahbuddy: cool! you're welcome
[00:28] <Kevin> raylu, I'm booting up. I'll get back to you in a second
[00:28] <yeahbuddy> later all
[00:29] <keres> when i do "export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr/PKG_CONFIG" it lists a ">", what do i type?
[00:29] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[00:29] <raylu> keres: um...why are you doing that?
[00:29] <keres> raylu: ActionParsnip said to do it, to set pkg_config_path right
[00:29] <raylu> keres: first, you can set the environment variable for the "make" command only by using "PKG_CONFIG_PATH=asdf make", but that's not what you want to do anyway
[00:30] <raylu> keres: configure should find that path automatically
[00:30] <raylu> keres: setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH manually is a last resort override
[00:30] <keres> raylu: how do you configure???
[00:30] <raylu> keres: i thought you already ran "./configure" after installing the mesa dev?
[00:30] <onetinsoldier> keres: for one thing.. you have a typo.. you're first quote was a 'single' quote... you want both quotes to be double quotes
[00:30] <elostio> keres, have a look at your quotes
[00:31] <Kevin> raylu: listen is set to 443
[00:31] <tjgillespie> hi all, does anyone know which package the gnome menu is in? the default one, not the slab one in gnome-main-menu
[00:32] <keres> argarg
[00:32] <eitreach> Would anyone be able to help me opening a few ports? I can't seem to figure out my router. Could it be something Ubuntu is blocking?
[00:32] <khafra> So, I switched to another virtual console in Ubuntu LiveCD 8.04, and tried "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop" It said "Stopping GNOME display Manager... [OK]" but didn't actually stop it
[00:32] <keres> no what exactly should i do? i really don't want to screw up
[00:32] <ToddEDM> hey guys, i just found something else.... when i try to import photos in gthumb i get the error. "An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not lock the device'): Camera is already in use." i had nothing else running, i just restarted
[00:32] <rustybox> anyone know how to get the xbox360 controller running in 64bit Ibex?
[00:32] <khafra> When I "ctrl+alt+F7"'ed back, it was still here.
[00:33] <khafra> How do I make it _really_ stop?
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> khafra: well, that should have stopped it
[00:33] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to toggle Compiz on or off?
[00:33] <raylu> Kevin: try netstat -pl
[00:33] <raylu> toastedmilk: try system > preferences > appearance > visual effects
[00:34] <khafra> onetinsoldier: Perhaps the liveCD version is unusually persistent
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> khafra: probably
[00:34] <raylu> khafra: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:34] <khafra> onetinsoldier: When I ctrl+alt+backspace the whole thing reboots
[00:34] <raylu> (as root). otherwise, sudo killall gdm will make it "really" stop, but there's likely another process that starts it again
[00:34] <khafra> raylu: That does the same thing
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> khafra: try what raylu says.. but for the live cd it probably won't work
[00:35] <keres> ActionParsnip: what is the actual syntax to make this program build?
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> khafra: yeah.. live cd thing i think
[00:35] <khafra> And I don't think it's restarting, 'cause all the windows open have the same state
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> keres: you need to tell the compiler where to find its dependancies
[00:36] <keres> ActionParsnip: "export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr/PKG_CONFIG make" ?
[00:36] <raylu> keres: you don't need the export
[00:36] <mhall> I just upgraded from Kubuntu hardy to Kubuntu intrepid and it defaults to KDE 4, no problem, but I can't figure out what utility has replaced good old kcontrol so I can fix the stuff that I don't like in the configuration of this thing.
[00:36] <keres> raylu: then what?
[00:36] <raylu> keres: and there is no way that command will work
[00:37] <Kevin> raylu: Here is the output -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/84972/
[00:37] <raylu> keres: unless you really have the stuff needed in /usr/PKG_CONFIG...
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> keres: try ' and ' instead of ' and "
[00:37] <keres> ok
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> keres: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr' && ./configure
[00:37] <lu6cifer> could someone help me? I can't seem to play dvds in ubuntu--running hardy heron
[00:38] <raylu> ActionParsnip: again, you don't need export
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> lu6cifer: vlc handles them well
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> raylu: maybe you can advise
[00:38] <keres> ActionParsnip: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH='/usr' && ./configure
[00:38] <keres> oops
[00:38] <mhall> @#$% this 3d alt-tab is heinous
[00:38] <onetinsoldier> keres:  export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/PKG_CONFIG"   is the way to do that properly.. just an fyi
[00:38] <keres> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:38] <compte> Hello
[00:38] <lu6cifer> vlc isn't working with them either
[00:38] <raylu> Kevin: i don't see apache there at all...
[00:38] <raylu> Kevin: is it running?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | lu6cifer
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> lu6cifer: what happens when you try to play the dvd?
[00:39] <raylu> ActionParsnip: just do the command without export. but i still think that this isn't the right way to go about it. i think it's better to let configure take care of the paths
[00:39] <keres> now i have the ' > ' dialog again
[00:39] <onetinsoldier> keres: then to check that you have done it properly do...   echo "$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"
[00:39] <lu6cifer> it says ERROR: Resource not found
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> raylu: well it cant find the lib yet he has the dependancy installed
[00:39] <khafra> Any idea how to trick the liveCD into quitting X so I can install the NVidia driver?
[00:39] <raylu> ActionParsnip: more likely, he has the wrong dependency installed
[00:39] <keres> doesn't list anything
[00:39] <keres> echo "$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"
[00:39] <wall-e_> can anyone tell me if there is a simple way of scaning extra hdd for virus's mostly XP micro$ through ubuntu
[00:39] <raylu> khafra: why can't you just use the nvidia package?
[00:39] <randal> Hey guys i need to change a setting in user/group in the admin panel but everything is greyed out/not letting me click anything plz help
[00:40] <onetinsoldier> keres: not in here tho.. on the command line
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> keres: here's his output http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd6
[00:40] <dft> raylu: from teh cli run init 3
[00:40] <dft> that will switch you to cli with networking
[00:40] <keres> onetinsoldier: duh? lol
[00:40] <raylu> dft: ...?
[00:40] <onetinsoldier> keres:  export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/PKG_CONFIG"   -CHECK YOUR QUOTES- is the way to do that properly.. just an fyi
[00:40] <keres> i was pasting my syntax for confirmation
[00:40] <raylu> onetinsoldier: no, it's not
[00:40] <dft> raylu: sry
[00:40] <raylu> onetinsoldier: only make needs PKG_CONFIG_PATH; no reason to export it
[00:40] <keres> i inted to paste it with my text
[00:40] <dft> khafra: from cli run init 3
[00:40] <randal> Hey guys i need to change a setting in user/group in the admin panel but everything is greyed out/not letting me click anything plz help
[00:40] <khafra> raylu: The Nvidia open source driver doesn't do 3d acceleration.  And the EnvyNG package won't install the 9800 GT driver.
[00:41] <raylu> khafra: the "nv" driver doesn't do 3d acceleration
[00:41] <raylu> khafra: the "nvidia" driver does, and is in the repos
[00:41] <onetinsoldier> raylu: if i did want to export that envro variable.. what would be the proper way?
[00:41] <keres> onetinsoldier: same thing
[00:41] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of any open source translation software?
[00:41] <raylu> onetinsoldier: that would be...
[00:41] <randal> How do i do administrative tasks do i have to log into root how
[00:41] <Kevin> raylu: It looks like Apache is running - it is serving my website. Here is the output of another netstat -pl command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/84973
[00:41] <raylu> !root | randal
[00:41] <dft> khafra: once you've installed the new pkg, run init 5 to start X again
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> randal: if you need power, put sudo at the start of the command
[00:42] <khafra> dft: nvidia-glx-new ?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> randal: forget about root alltogether and you'll be fine
[00:42] <dft> khafra: I think so
[00:42] <SSilver2k> so, firefox keeps crashing when runing nonstop flash movies.  randomly too.  any ideas on how to fix that?
[00:42] <randal> ActionParsnip:  im trying to change seting in user/group setting it doesent let me
[00:42] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i just checked it...  export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/PKG_CONFIG"   echo "$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"   ...returns   /usr/PKG_CONFIG
[00:42] <raylu> onetinsoldier: right...
[00:43] <raylu> onetinsoldier: but he doesn't need it as an environment variable for anything else
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> randal: then use gksudo <program name>
[00:43] <danjam> Hi. Im having trouble with DNS on intrepid with my usb modem. Ive set openDNS as primary and secondary nameservers but I can only access sites by IP. Any suggestions?
[00:43] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok,, i was trying to get him/her to see the proper way to export an environment variable
[00:43] <rdw200169> danjam: where did you set them at?
[00:43] <randal> ActionParsnip:  im trying to change setting in administrator user/group settings
[00:43] <khafra> dft: Just installed them offa Synaptic, but it says there's no such driver. I'll try init 3
[00:44] <keres> what the heck is the ' > ' dialog for?
[00:44] <khafra> The init 3--It does nothing!
[00:44] <khafra> Bah.
[00:44] <randal> ActionParsnip: any idea
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> keres: it outputs the output going to stdout to a file
[00:44] <Kevin> raylu: Any ideas?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> randal: what command do you run to get the app up?
[00:45] <raylu> Kevin: hrm. i just ran it on my own server
[00:45] <danjam> rdw200169: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[00:45] <raylu> Kevin: and it's also tcp6... i'm wondering if you can ping the machine?
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> keres: it's the shell waiting for more input(after the single quote you had) because your quotes were wrong
[00:46] <randal> ActionParsnip:  i click system-administration-users and groups and then click root then manage groups
[00:46] <keres> onetinsoldier: what are the right quotes then?
[00:46] <Kevin> raylu: Yes, I can ping the machine
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> keres: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/PKG_CONFIG"   echo "$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"   ...returns   /usr/PKG_CONFIG
[00:46] <rdw200169> danjam: i've never tried setting my dns server there, have you tried setting it in /etc/resolv.conf and seeing if that works?
[00:46] <raylu> Kevin: i'm out of ideas then. perhaps you're not using the right ip to access the server
[00:46] <raylu> Kevin: alternatively, there's a firewall at work somewhere
[00:47] <rdw200169> danjam: /etc/resolv.conf is the irrefutable source of nameservers for linux
[00:47] <keres> onetinsoldier: so type '        export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/PKG_CONFIG"         '            ?
[00:47] <randal> ActionParsnip: its user settings
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> keres: use double quotes in BOTH places
[00:47] <Kevin> raylu: Would a firewall on Ubunu potentially be blocking it?
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> keres: yes
[00:47] <randal> ActionParsnip:  it doesent let me change anything
[00:47] <raylu> Kevin: it's possible, i guess. but show me how you're accessing the machine?
[00:47] <keres> onetinsoldier: ok, now what?
[00:47] <rdw200169> danjam: so, when you get a lease, check resolv.conf to make sure that dhclient updated that file, otherwise, it didn't work the way you expected
[00:47] <danjam> rdw200169: I seem to remember opening and finding them there too but I'll make sure
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> keres: then check it, with   echo "$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"
[00:48] <Kevin> raylu: I'm currently on a wireless network. The ubuntu server is hardwired to my router.
[00:48] <neil_d> hi, I have a RAID-1 setup, I was wondering if there is any advantage having the swap on a RAID-1 partition, or having two seperate swap partitions ?
[00:48] <randal> ActionParsnip:  any idea
[00:48] <keres> onetinesoldier: output: /usr/PKG_CONFIG
[00:48] <raylu> Kevin: as in, what URL?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> randal: i'd check what app that runs, then try gksudo <app name>
[00:48] <rdw200169> danjam: the only other thing i can think of, besides an incorrect ip address of course, is a firewall blocking port 53 udp
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. there you go.. you got it now
[00:48] <Kevin> 192.168.1.xxx
[00:48] <keres> onetinsoldier: now?
[00:48] <randal> ActionParsnip:  how do i check what app it runs
[00:48] <Kevin> raylu: sorry, that was for you.. 192.168.1.xxx
[00:49] <rdw200169> danjam: but that is doubtful, 99% of hardware firewalls out there will not block that (i.e. linksys etc...)
[00:49] <raylu> Kevin: hrm. btw, what's vino-server?
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> keres: well, all i was trying to do was show you how to do that environment variable properly...
[00:49] <keres> oo
[00:49] <keres> oh
[00:49] <keres> onetinsoldier: thank you, though
[00:49] <keres> :>
[00:49] <Kevin> raylu: I think it might have something to do with remote desktop?
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> keres: you're welcome.. i can try to help further tho.. what's happening now?
[00:50] <raylu> randal: what is it you want to change anyway?
[00:50] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd6
[00:50] <raylu> Kevin: oh, it's a vnc server
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. i'll look
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> randal: you could edit the menu to check the command line
[00:50] <shawnb> is there an RSS feed I can subscribe to that will list the updates that the Update Manager installs?
[00:50] <keres> onetinsoldier: i have mesa-common-dev, too
[00:50] <randal> raylu: i whatched this youtube turtolio to set up a vitrual box and i have to change a setting here
[00:51] <almark1> Hello all, how do I disable DRI in Ubuntu Studio, I don't have an xorg.conf right now, its setup automatically
[00:51] <shawnb> looked around launchpad but can't find anything like that
[00:51] <raylu> randal: again, what setting is it you want to change?
[00:51] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. hang on
[00:51] <danjam> rdw200169: Thanks, I'll check the openTable I set-up a while ago. Maybe I did something stupid
[00:51] <randal> raylu:  i dont know what it changes all i know it tells me to do it lol
[00:51] <raylu> randal: could you be less descriptive?
[00:52] <randal> raylu:  ya prob lol
[00:52] <raylu> randal: would it kill you to just tell me what the tutorial is telling you to change?
[00:52] <randal> raylu:  i can send you the youtube vid
[00:52] <randal> raylu:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8X86R6d-g
[00:52] <raylu> =\
[00:52] <onetinsoldier> keres: hmmm. try   make clean ....and then run again  ./configure
[00:52] <raylu> randal: tell me what the tutorial is telling you to change?
[00:52] <onetinsoldier> keres: doh!   make distclean
[00:53] <onetinsoldier> keres: try running   make distclean...  then ./configure
[00:53] <randal> raylu:  to change a setting in users settings
[00:53] <raylu> randal: ...
[00:53] <keres> onetinsoldier: make: *** No rule to make target `distclean'.  Stop.
[00:54] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know if there's a way to get PSO:BB to work with Ubuntu, either using a VM or wine, cause my only problem is it keeps trying to patch the online.exe file, even though its done that about 10 times already.
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> keres: hmmm... dangit, i'm rusty at this. thought that would work to clean up all the ./configure settings. it should have a distclean target i would think
[00:54] <randal> raylu:  im sorry thats all i know
[00:54] <randal> raylu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8X86R6d-g
[00:54] <onetinsoldier> keres: how about removing the dir and then unpacking it again, then running the ./configure
[00:55] <raylu> randal: i don't think you're understanding me
[00:55] <raylu> randal: tell me what the youtube video is telling you to change
[00:55] <raylu> randal: or, in other words, what are the labels of the things you are clicking on?
[00:56] <randal> raylu: forget about it it seems to be working im tring to set up a vm but it wont boot my xp disk
[00:56] <Flannel> randal: For the record, videos are horrible howtos, there's some pages on the same subject that'll probably be better, if you're stil having issues
[00:57] <randal> Flannel: where can i find a guide for vitrual box
[00:57] <keres> onetinman: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[00:57] <neil_d> hi, I have a RAID-1 setup, I was wondering if there is any advantage having the swap on a RAID-1 partition, or having two seperate swap partitions ?
[00:57] <onetinsoldier> keres: did you unpack it again and go into the dir?
[00:58] <nko321> Hello. Is ubuntu.com supposed to be registered to Canonical? It looks like the domain is parked.
[00:58] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[00:58] <keres> and then i typed ' ./configure '
[00:58] <Flannel> randal: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[00:58] <raylu> nko321: it's not parked...
[00:58] <exodus_ms> if I use wget -mk -w 20 -np http://example.com/subfolder/ where will the file be saved?
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> keres: how did you get the configure script to begin with? what is this source(what are you trying to compile)? I will download it and try to compile here
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> keres: netradiant???
[00:59] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/#What%20is%20NetRadiant?
[00:59] <keres> yes
[00:59] <Laili> hi
[00:59] <raylu> exodus_ms: current working directory
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> ok, hang on
[00:59] <nko321> raylu: When I go to the above-mentioned link https://help.ubuntu.com/ etc or any of the links on the firefox start page in ubuntu, I get a parked "what you need, when you need it" page
[01:00] <Laili> check this http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/index.php/vota-por-el-mejor-escritorio/ vote for one
[01:00] <Laili> ejejjeje
[01:00] <exodus_ms> raylu, yep... thank you
[01:00] <raylu> nko321: i see Official Ubuntu Documentation
[01:00] <nko321> raylu: ok, thanks! must be my local DNS or something...
[01:01] <psiforce> hi all
[01:01] <Laili> this is a forum in spañish, but vote pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[01:01] <raylu> nko321: "host ubuntu.com" ?
[01:01] <Laili> jejejejeje
[01:01] <raylu> ubuntu.com has address 91.189.94.156
[01:01] <raylu> ubuntu.com mail is handled by 10 mx.canonical.com.
[01:01] <Laili> i dont speak inglish jejejejj
[01:01] <Laili> :)
[01:01] <Psi-Jack> Yep. Definately need someone with specific knowledge of the driver support for Xorg 7.4 in Ubuntu 8.10, and ATI X1X00 series model.
[01:02] <exodus_ms> raylu, 'ls' in terminal shows the file on Desktop, in Nautilus it is not there?
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> I had ATI's 8.12 driver running, Ubuntuized by the directions using the --build Ubuntu/interim, installed them, still have them installed, and in fact, it even worked pretty good, but now, when I try using fglrx, X keeps sig11'ing and restarting, or worse now, just starting up blank.
[01:03] <psiforce> does anyone else have a problem with pulse audio, occasionally when running playing an avi and having other programs like firefox, my cpu ramps up to 100% (I'm running intrepid 64bit)
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> keres: you will probably need to give me a little time
[01:03] <ryxxed> how safe is it to resize ext3 partitions?
[01:03] <keres> onetinsoldier: take as much as you need
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> keres: i have it unpacked though... going in
[01:03] <Anacranom> ctrl+h in nautilus
[01:04] <psiforce> I thought intrepid had fixes for pulse
[01:04] <Flannel> !es | Laili
[01:04] <raylu> exodus_ms: no idea; not too familiar with nautilus
[01:04] <psiforce> ryxxed: done it plenty of times. but always its always good to backup your data in case of human error
[01:05] <exodus_ms> raylu, I'm using PCMan as well...
[01:05] <raylu> exodus_ms: pcman = ?
[01:05] <catmando_> hey all
[01:05] <ryxxed> yeah, but i'm out of room on other partitions
[01:05] <catmando_> i've just returned to ubuntu from fedora
[01:05] <catmando_> and i'm a little confused
[01:05] <exodus_ms> raylu, lightweight alternative to nautilus
[01:05] <raylu> catmando_: me too. but i took a trip to gentoo and debian first
[01:05] <exodus_ms> raylu, thanks for your help :)
[01:05] <raylu> exodus_ms: what do you need to do with the file anyway?
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> Anyone? ATI successes? I could use your help.
[01:06] <catmando_> i thought that the restricted drivers thingy was supposed to handle installation automagically
[01:06] <Flannel> exodus_ms: I believe most people use thunar as a nautilus alternative
[01:06] <Anacranom> exodus_ms, in ls does it have a "." in front of the filename?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Psi-Jack
[01:06] <catmando_> but it doesn't seem to be picking up the fact that i've got an nvidia card
[01:06] <Laili> tank you Flannel
[01:06] <exodus_ms> raylu, no, it's not hidden...
[01:06] <catmando_> and i don't really want to go compiling from source if i can help it
[01:06] <catmando_> am i missing something here?
[01:07] <exodus_ms> Anacranom, no, it's not hidden
[01:07] <Flannel> catmando_: Is your card listed as supported?
[01:07] <hacker> hi
[01:07] <Anacranom> exodus_ms, ok, just a thought,
[01:07] <catmando_> Flannel: yes
[01:07] <Spasysheep> 8.04 - rhythmbox -no mp3 support - gstreamer 0.10 good, bad & ugly installed - any ideas?
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Great! But it doesn't specifically talk about Ubuntu Interim (8.10), only up to Hardy (8.04)
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: ubuntu is ubuntu
[01:08] <ikhider> Spasyspeep-Install sudo apt-get install ubuntu restricted extras
[01:08] <Spasysheep> ikhider - ty
[01:08] <raylu> er...missing a few -s
[01:09] <onetinsoldier> keres: you were running a configure script at some point somewhere weren't you?
[01:09] <bird> I want to play game in ubuntu
[01:09] <ikhider> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:09] <ikhider> I think
[01:09] <keres> onetinman: that PKG_CONFIG thing??
[01:09] <ikhider> Use the tab feature to get it 'just right'
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Sure, it is, but things change between distributions. Like for example, fglrx isn't INSTALLED on Ubuntu 8.10, which these instructions assumes it is, and it's not. :)
[01:09] <Anacranom> ActionParsnip, i wouldnt go that far, i had a perfect system in 8.04, 8.10=nada for me
[01:09] <catmando_> Flannel: any ideas then?
[01:09] <bird> the game name is 梦幻西游
[01:09] <Lexvegas> ask | bird
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: or just the 'make' command.. i guess there never was a configure script eh?
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: this also assumes you'll use THEIR pre-canned drivers, and I am using ATI's latest from their website.
[01:10] <Lexvegas> !ask | bird
[01:10] <keres> onetinsoldier: my pastebin is the output from make
[01:10] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/d7654dbd6
[01:10] <Flannel> catmando_: What card is it?  And you're on 8.10 or 8.04?
[01:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: i don't even see a Makefile in there.. you know where it is?
[01:10] <keres> onetinsoldier: no. hmmmm
[01:11] <keres> onetinman: i see a makefile
[01:11] <keres> onetinman: it's in netradiant folder
[01:11] <catmando_> Flannel: 8.04, 9600GT
[01:11] <gbear14275> anyone run into problems with the vuze packages and more specifically uninstalling the program?
[01:11] <onetinsoldier> keres: weird.. mine dowsn have one.. i must have downloaded the binary by mistake.. hang on
[01:12] <gbear14275> I am having a bear getting this thing off ubuntu and would appreciate any tips on getting this off my machine
[01:12] <Flannel> catmando_: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html I don't see that card listed
[01:12] <ikhider> Gbear remove azureus
[01:13] <ikhider> Ubuntu still thinks vuze is azureus
[01:13] <keres> onetinman: i just downloaded it from svn
[01:13] <gbear14275> ikhider: thats what I'm trying to do... i'm running into things like azureus/vuze error popups still being present after synaptic says its uninstalled.... hence my request for help
[01:13] <Flannel> gbear14275: sudo apt-get remove vuze azureus
[01:13] <keres> onetinman: svn checkout svn://svn.icculus.org/netradiant/trunk netradiant
[01:13] <bird> My touchpad can't use
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, i was expecting to download a file from the web page
[01:13] <Flannel> gbear14275: sudo apt-get remove --purge vuze azureus, actually.
[01:13] <Flannel> gbear14275: What pops up?
[01:13] <ikhider> gbear have you tried the purge option on terminal?
[01:14] <keres> onetinsoldier: there is a precompiled package, but it doesn't run on intrepid
[01:14] <gbear14275> alertmessagebox.error
[01:14] <mike2001> trying to  connect to my wireless router whats do I have to do
[01:14] <gbear14275> saying it can't put a config file into the azureus folder cause its not there anymore...
[01:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: nope.. it's made for Win32... how do i get the source?
[01:14] <Turl> hi
[01:14] <Turl> what's the difference between ondemand and conservative?
[01:15] <Flannel> Turl: In what context?
[01:15] <raylu> conservative = cap it at about half
[01:15] <keres> onetinsoldier: i ran rsync, i got a makefile ???
[01:15] <raylu> ondemand = as much as needed
[01:15] <keres> are you sure that's win32?
[01:15] <nety350> how to make grep show only the regex models and not all the line?
[01:15] <onetinsoldier> keres: yes.. ok. tell me whast you did to get it
[01:15] <raylu> Flannel: cpu power schemas
[01:15] <catmando_> Flannel: huh, what do you know. fedora had it listed as supported with the latest driver
[01:15] <catmando_> Flannel: but I guess that's why the manager isn't seeing it
[01:15] <keres> onetinsoldier: a bunch of conf, py, and sh files
[01:16] <elphias> im getting a very strange error in dmesg http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6408e9f8 can some one please take a look at it and tell me what might be casuing it?
[01:16] <nety350> with an grep [1-9] myfile.txt for exemple?
[01:16] <elphias> i have never seen an error like this before
[01:16] <Flannel> catmando_: The latest driver, sure.  Hardy has 169.12
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> keres: dang.. do you have all the steps you took? did you remove the source from your system?
[01:16] <catmando_> Flannel: yeah, that's what I just figured out
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> keres: or do you still have the source dir on your system?
[01:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> keres: go into it and type... make clean
[01:17] <catmando_> Flannel: in the Ubuntu universe, am I likely to get flamed if i run into problems with a later diver>
[01:17] <catmando_> s/diver/driver
[01:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/mcadc499
[01:17] <Flannel> catmando_: What?
[01:17] <keres> that's the outptu
[01:18] <nety350> with an grep [1-9] myfile.txt i want grep show me only the number and no all the line, how to make this???
[01:18] <jlc> Will someone please tell me how to change properties of files so they are not locked?
[01:18] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: One example, Where's this in 8.10? Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do
[01:18] <catmando_> Flannel: a roundabout way of asking 'if i install the latest driver and break shit, will anyone help me'?
[01:18] <raylu> !permissions |jlc
[01:18] <ikhider> jlc Sudo nautilus
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, looks all normal there... hang on
[01:18] <raylu> ikhider: no
[01:18] <ikhider> 'God mode
[01:18] <LjL> nety350: grep -o
[01:19] <nety350> LjL, thx very much
[01:19] <olskolirc> is there absolutely NO WAY for me to change my clock out of this stupid military time on kde4.1 intrepid?
[01:19] <scone> Hey everyone, how important is acpi on a laptop?
[01:19] <Flannel> !envyng | catmando_
[01:19] <ikhider> Better ideas Raylu?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> elphias: you got an ati video card?
[01:19] <mike2001> I need wireless help
[01:19] <raylu> olskolirc: try #kubuntu
[01:19] <raylu> ikhider: yeah. i showed him !permissions
[01:19] <Flannel> catmando_: Generally you'll get lukewarm support.  No one will ostracize you
[01:19] <pengwyn> how do we stop ubuntu from overwriting the xorg.conf  ?
[01:19] <eseven73> 'gksudo nautilus' not sudo
[01:19] <raylu> ikhider: he wants to manipulate permisisons, not get around them
[01:19] <Flannel> catmando_: (People who know will help, people who don't wont, etc)
[01:19] <catmando_> Flannel: seems fair :)
[01:20] <catmando_> Flannel: thanks
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: do the following...   export DEPENDENCIES_CHECK="verbose"  ...then run 'make' again
[01:20] <elphias_> ActionParsnip: no nvidia, the only other card in there is a linksys wireless card
[01:20] <ikhider> Raylu--I find permissions tedius, particularly when dealing with a folder
[01:20] <sgroi135> Can someone help me out.  I just installed Nepenthes from apt-get.  It is running automatically on reboot. I do not want it to.  How do it stop running on reboot. I am running Kubuntu 8.10
[01:20] <raylu> ikhider: then you're doing it wrong =\
[01:20] <ikhider> Or directory
[01:20] <Anacranom> scone, i have to set noacpi acpi=off on most of the newer laptops i work on
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> elphias: hmm, weird. do both work ok?
[01:20] <ikhider> raylu--yeah, probably
[01:20] <keres> onetinman: http://pastebin.com/m7385c134
[01:20] <raylu> ikhider: perhaps you should read that link too
[01:21] <scone> Anacranom, Ok, I couldn't tell from the descriptions of what it does online, I just set mine to off and it sped up my boot time a LOT
[01:21] <catmando_> Flannel: just to confirm, it was 177.x that added 9600GT support
[01:21] <ikhider> But right clicking and getting permissions in the little tab drives me nuts
[01:21] <Anacranom> yep
[01:21] <scone> Wanted to make sure i wasn't going to have any issues
[01:21] <catmando_> Flannel: is that in Intrepid?
[01:21] <raylu> ikhider: ...
[01:21] <Anacranom> scone, yep
[01:21] <raylu> ikhider: of course. guis are always slw
[01:21] <onetinsoldier> keres: that will take me a minute to examine... hang on
[01:21] <Flannel> catmando_: catmando_ yeah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:21] <raylu> *slow
[01:21] <AzizLight> can somebody please explain me why firefox needs gnome libs please?
[01:21] <user01> is it better to upgrade ubuntu every 6 months or just use the lts for 7 years?
[01:21] <ikhider> I have been labelled by many as a 'windows tard'
[01:22] <Flannel> user01: 7 years?  Two years
[01:22] <elphias_> ActionParsnip: the video card seems to work fine, but other users on my home network have reported issues with the entire network suddenly for no reason at all just killing all connections, even i lose internet, i suspect it's the wireless card but i cannot prove it, like all day today the card was running fine then around 6pm it started goofing up and cutting me and everyone off, at least i think it's the wireless card
[01:22] <catmando_> Flannel: is that likely to get backported?
[01:22] <raylu> AzizLight: it doesn't, but it was compiled with some gtk stuff
[01:22] <ikhider> My migration to linux is relatively recent
[01:22] <Flannel> catmando_: No idea
[01:22] <user01> Flannel, 2 years then
[01:22] <raylu> AzizLight: it's possible to compile it without
[01:22] <Anacranom> scone, did u do it in the menu.lst?
[01:22] <catmando_> Flannel: sorry, i'm just being lay
[01:22] <catmando_> lazy
[01:22]  * catmando_ goes off to look
[01:22] <pengwyn> how do we stop ubuntu from overwriting the xorg.conf  ?
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: sounds likely. I'd reconfigure it
[01:22] <scone> Anacranom, yeah on the end of my kernal line
[01:22] <Flannel> user01: It depends on your needs, how you use the computer, what you like, etc.
[01:22] <AzizLight> raylu: is there a firefox version that is optimized for kde?
[01:22] <pengwyn> how do we stop the displayconfig-gtk crap from starting?
[01:22] <vaxius> sgroi: man update-rc.d
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: its to get the full firefox experience
[01:23] <raylu> AzizLight: not that i know of
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: no idea
[01:23] <elphias_> ActionParsnip: how do i do that? i don't know squat about configureing anything. i just don't know that much about linux and stuffs.
[01:23] <kaliree> Hey folks!
[01:23] <raylu> ActionParsnip: it's more like the firefox experience + some
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: lspci will start you off, you can websearch from there
[01:23] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: what does that mean to get the full firefox experience?
[01:23] <kaliree> I have a Xubuntu problem, but it doesn't seem that anyone's alive in the Xubuntu chat.
[01:23] <eseven73> kaliree: thats why i hang here
[01:23] <ikhider> I love Xubuntu
[01:24] <ikhider> I am using it now
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: thats all I know, its some bloat that mozilla insist you have, you could try another browser like opera or konqueror if you dont want to install gnome stuffs
[01:24] <ikhider> But I could be stupid to answer your question
[01:24] <ikhider> However Xubuntu and Ubuntu seem to run the same
[01:24] <pengwyn> we have a perfectly workin Nvidia card, with acceleration.  Reboot and ubuntu nukes the xorg.conf  .  How do we stop this?
[01:24] <kaliree> Have any idea how why I would be getting this error when I try to install the alternate cd?          ACPI: Invalid PBLK length[0]
[01:24] <elphias_> ActionParsnip:  the computer reports that the card is a  Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI but i know the card is a linksys whats up with that?
[01:24] <onetinsoldier> keres: i'm not sure why it not finding gl.h... i'm still looking it over.. while i do you can try it with your PKG_CONFIG_PATH unset if you want.
[01:25] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: no Im a firefox addict but it's a pain to install all those gnome libs in kde :S
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: the brand means nothing, the chip is what you drive
[01:25] <midie> hi
[01:25] <elphias_> oh
[01:25] <elphias_> um ok
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: you need to find how to setup the RT2561 card
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: you DO have the 'pkg-config' package installed don't you?
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: dpkg -l pkg-config
[01:26] <kaliree> ikhider?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: it's just like any other package
[01:26] <vaxius> elphias_: it's the actual chipset of your card
[01:26] <elphias_> oh
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: i dont see how that a pain?
[01:26] <ikhider> -Kalierr
[01:26] <ikhider> -Kalieree
[01:26] <ikhider> -Kaliree--got it
[01:26] <ikhider> Kaliree, yes
[01:27] <kaliree> Lol. Any thoughts?
[01:27] <ikhider> ?
[01:27] <catmando_> so here's another question
[01:27] <kaliree> Aye.
[01:27] <catmando_> how do the backports repos work?
[01:27] <keres> onetinman: yes
[01:27] <Meshezabeel> Does anyone know if there is going to be a fix for the Intel 4965 Wirless problem? At http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 it says: "Because the known fix requires a new version of the driver, it is not expected to be possible to include this fix in the main kernel package." But I do not know what this is saying.
[01:27] <pengwyn> WHAT FUCKING MAKES -> displayconfig-gtk  START?
[01:27] <catmando_> does hardy backports have backported stuff from intrepid?
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2006/12/17/ralink-rt61-edgy-and-nvidia-again/
[01:27] <zsquareplusc> ikhider: doesn't your IRC client support nick name completion with the TAB key? ;-)
[01:27] <LjL-Temp> pengwyn: watch the language and the caps lock.-
[01:27] <vaxius> !backports | catmando_
[01:28] <catmando_> vaxius: thx
[01:28] <eseven73> why not do 'locate displayconfig-gtk' and find out instead of cussing at everyone?
[01:28] <vaxius> catmando_: np
[01:28] <kidbuntu> help please.. i'm having problems mounting my other harddisk.
[01:28] <ikhider> -Kaliree--alternate install CD's are a disaster. I have a 64 bit and canonical support said use the 32 bit install disc
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> keres: unset your environment variable..   export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=""   then   export DEPENDENCIES_CHECK=""
[01:28] <keres> ok
[01:28] <vaxius> kidbuntu: which is?
[01:28] <elphias_> ActionParsnip: im using 8.10 does that matter?
[01:28] <ikhider> -Kaliree--the alternate installs are for sophisticated users
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=640586
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: should be fine
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> keres: now try   make
[01:29] <kidbuntu> vaxius: i always have to do  sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
[01:29] <keres> onetineman: same thing
[01:29] <kaliree> I am using it because I have a very old Celeron based eMachine that only has a 128MB of ram.
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> elphias_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=989727 for intrepid
[01:29] <vaxius> kidbuntu: strange, any errors on the console or in the logs?
[01:29] <onetinsoldier> keres: just checking.. i'm thinking
[01:29] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: unfortunately you're right, everything that is not kde is either gtk or gnome. The problem is that in gnome (ubuntu) you dont have to install all the gtk libs because they're already there. in kde you have to install everything. It's as if apple all of a sudden gets windows compatible (I mean really compatible so that you could run exe files), you would have to install all the dlls and all kind of stupid stuf
[01:29] <kaliree> Even regular Xubuntu is too manly to run well on it.
[01:29] <sharperguy> What's the easiest way to create a video file which is just a single image with some audio playing in the background?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> gtk == gnome tool kit
[01:29] <keres> onetinman: http://pastebin.com/m4f91986f
[01:29] <eseven73> id say 'advanced user' over 'sophisticated users' that seems a bit harsh ikhider :)
[01:30] <kidbuntu> vaxius: before i'm just double clicking the icon of my harddisk now it wont. someone just gave me that command that made me access my files
[01:30] <ikhider> Kaliree--too manly?
[01:30] <ikhider> -whassat?
[01:30] <kidbuntu> vaxius: just for the time i log in.
[01:30] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. Does anyone have any REAL knowledge on ATI support in Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:30] <kaliree> I am trying to put Linux it on for a lady that was running XP on it. (or should I say gasping and choking on it?)
[01:30] <kidbuntu> vaxius: i don't normally use terminal
[01:30] <kaliree> Too resource intensive.
[01:30] <Meshezabeel> sharperguy: You could always use Cinelerra, it is more advanced for video editing though, so not sure if there is a simpler one for your needs.
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> keres: can you DCC send me the Makefile?
[01:31] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: I didnt know that, I'm a noob, and Im sorry. but it's still a pain... lol
[01:31] <vaxius> k, first could you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab?
[01:31] <keres> onetinsoldier: dcc?
[01:31] <kaliree> Too manly = too demanding/powerful/impressive, etc.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: you'll learn
[01:31] <kidbuntu> pastebin
[01:31] <kidbuntu> !pastebin
[01:31] <Meshezabeel> onetinsoldier rides away
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> Meshezabeel: hehe
[01:31] <ikhider> -Kaliree, install should be easy, use the normal xubuntu install disc and use a hard wire net connection until the wireless is going
[01:31] <sharperguy> Meshezabeel, I tried pitivi but it doesnt support images, and kino but I can't figure out how to get the ogg to play at the same time
[01:31] <Meshezabeel> :)
[01:31] <ikhider> if you have a wireless
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> keres: it's a way to send people file over IRC
[01:32] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: now sincerely, will it affect the performance of my system if I install all those gnome/gtk libs?
[01:32] <c1rcuit> why is it that when i try to dual boot ubuntu i do not see the "new partition size" bar in the prepare disk space section?
[01:32] <keres> onetinsoldier: how?
[01:32] <kidbuntu> vaxius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84989/
[01:32] <ikhider> Or use linux puppy
[01:32] <kaliree> Nope, not in this old jalopy. Just basic cd rom, 20gig HDD, onboard video and ethernet.
[01:32] <eseven73> no AzizLight
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: not at all
[01:32] <Meshezabeel> sharperguy: Cinelerra lets you make videos with both video and audio tracks, you can use an image for one of the video tracks.
[01:32] <ikhider> Linux puppy is cute, and it barks when you start it
[01:32] <ikhider> It can run off of ram
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> AzizLight: its just some stuff firefox needs to be as fat as it is
[01:32] <sharperguy> Meshezabeel, Ok cheers
[01:32] <Meshezabeel> ikhider: you mean Puppy Linux?
[01:33] <ikhider> Yeah, puppy linux
[01:33] <vaxius> kidbuntu: k, so your other drive is an external hd?
[01:33] <ikhider> Napalm scatter brain, too much coffee
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> sharperguy: theres damn small linux also
[01:33] <c1rcuit> why is it that when i try to dual boot ubuntu i do not see the "new partition size" bar in the prepare disk space section?
[01:33] <kaliree> Yeah, but isn't it a lot less user friendly than Ubuntu & friends?
[01:33] <AzizLight> ActionParsnip: ok, perfect. Thanks for all the help and the answers
[01:33] <ryxxed> AZIS, LIGHT
[01:33] <ryxxed> MUCH BETTER AZIS, THANK YOU
[01:33] <kidbuntu> vaxius: nope.. none of my harddrives are there.. they are all internal
[01:33] <kaliree> I couldn't find the install files for DSL.
[01:33] <ikhider> If Ubuntu is manly, puppy is not
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> !caps | ryxxed
[01:33] <Meshezabeel> sharperguy: no problem, let me know if you need some help getting started in it, as it might be tricky if you aren't used to it.
[01:33] <ikhider> If I can run it, ANYONE can
[01:33] <AzizLight> ryxxed: it's Aziz not Azis
[01:34] <ryxxed> it is?
[01:34] <ikhider> And it works out of the box
[01:34] <ryxxed> oh well
[01:34] <eseven73> how do i set Opera as default browser in xubuntu?
[01:34] <kaliree> Even a 60 year old lady that barely understood XP?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> kaliree: http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
[01:34] <ryxxed> it's one of the best movies ever
[01:34] <vaxius> kidbuntu: k, i only see one entry for an internal drive, so we'll have to add one
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> keres: is there a list of nicks in the channel in your IRC client?
[01:34] <ikhider> But Xubuntu has wayy more features
[01:34] <c1rcuit> why is it that when i try to dual boot ubuntu i do not see the "new partition size" bar in the prepare disk space section?
[01:34] <ikhider> But that lady may not want more features
[01:34] <Psi-Jack> Blasted. No ATI users here, present?
[01:34] <kaliree> ikhider: what do you mean by features?
[01:34] <vaxius> kidbuntu: what's the filesystem on this second drive?
[01:35] <kidbuntu> vaxius: but why does the hal restart command fix it.. do we really have to add something on fstab
[01:35] <gbear14275> I have an ubuntu/developer relation question...
[01:35] <kidbuntu> vaxius: fat
[01:35] <ikhider> She may want idiot proof, as a certified idiot, I say use linux puppy
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> kaliree: http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/damnsmalllinux/current/dsl-4.4.10.iso
[01:35] <raylu> gbear14275: try #ubuntu-devel after asking here
[01:35] <kaliree> That's what I'm looking for.
[01:35] <keres> onetinman: ok. makefile or makefile.conf?
[01:35] <ikhider> Xubuntu can do almost anything Ubuntu can
[01:35] <c1rcuit> can someone guide me through dual booting in ubuntu
[01:35] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, i got it... hang on
[01:35] <kaliree> Can Puppy run Open Office, Thunderbird, and Firefox without issues?
[01:35] <gbear14275> raylu: thanks! i'll make sure to do that
[01:35] <ikhider> Yeah, totally
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> ikhider: xubuntu is ubuntu, just a lighter DE and WM
[01:36] <kaliree> That's all I really need it to do.
[01:36] <ikhider> Lookit the screen shots
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> kaliree: indeed
[01:36] <c1rcuit> why is it that when i try to dual boot ubuntu i do not see the "new partition size" bar in the prepare disk space section?
[01:36] <kaliree> Sweet.
[01:36] <vaxius> kidbuntu: i have no idea, but we can try to troubleshoot that first if you want; start by pastebinning /var/log/syslog
[01:36]  * Panarchy says Hi
[01:36] <scone> I changed my menu.list  to include acpi=off and now my battery meter doesn't report correctly, is there a way to fix that?
[01:36] <ikhider> Action, yeah--but there are some differences like highlighting things on yer desktop
[01:36] <kidbuntu> ok
[01:36] <ikhider> Ya can't
[01:36] <kaliree> Ubuntu is the only dstro I have used (still basically a linux noob), and I played a little with Fedora Core 6. So, thanks for the heads up.
[01:37] <gbear14275> so looking through and posting on the azureus forums they claim that they don't do support because the ubuntu people modify the code... and I'm pretty sure trying to support every program possibly installed on ubuntu is impossible for the developers... what types of modifications are these the azureus people are claiming and why do the ubuntu people mandate they happen?
[01:37] <Panarchy> Well I've been working on my ubuntu installation via VMware workstation 6.5.1, on Windows XP. Started with ubuntu alternative CD
[01:37] <Panarchy> How long is it meant to take?
[01:37] <c1rcuit> can somebody help me
[01:37] <kaliree> Is the windows manager and/or explorer style interface drastically different than XP?
[01:37] <eseven73> how do i set Opera as default browser in xubuntu?
[01:37] <Panarchy> [configuring apt] - Scanning the mirror - 50%
[01:37] <kidbuntu> vaxius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84990/
[01:37] <exodus_ms> circuit, save yourself!
[01:37] <c1rcuit> wtf
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: the gpl says the modified code has to be resubmitted to the original devs, so they cant moan
[01:38] <Panarchy> lol
[01:38] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, do you need help?
[01:38] <c1rcuit> exodus_ms yes i do
[01:39] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: well, distribution of the code along with the program shouldn't mean any modification... azureus people are claiming that ubuntu package managers modify the code... are they just talking about removing closed source portions?
[01:39] <kaliree> Well thanks ikhider, I'll give it a shot. It would be much more lightweight than Xubuntu anyway. Speed is the reason for the switch. (It literally took her system 5 minutes to respond to a click on the start menu in XP....*shiver*)
[01:39] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, start with posting a descriptive explanation of the problem you are currently experiencing :)
[01:39] <eric__> hey how are you all?
[01:40] <ikhider> Kaliree--Puppy starts on boot-up
[01:40] <exodus_ms> but not to me :)
[01:40] <ikhider> It is very fast
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> keres: i am pretty rusty at this... but try   export LDFAGS="/usr/include/GL"     then try make again
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: sounds likely, if the package managers are modifying they should be sending their new code back
[01:40] <scone> Does turning acpi off, mess up the battery meter?
[01:40] <eric__> who loves xbox?
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> keres: oops.. typo!
[01:40] <ikhider> I mean--boot up with the disc
[01:40] <ikhider> inside
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> keres: i am pretty rusty at this... but try   export LDFLAGS="/usr/include/GL"     then try make again
[01:40] <ikhider> Duh
[01:40] <ikhider> Toldya I'm dumb
[01:40] <exodus_ms> !ot > eric__,
[01:40] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: thats true... so it really is just a copout in an attempt to not support their program...
[01:40] <vaxius> kidbuntu: no red flags there, thinking of another to check
[01:40] <kaliree> Sounds great. I tried to burn the ISO yesterday, but it's apparently corrupt.
[01:41] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: on ehalf of the azureus people...
[01:41] <kaliree> I'll try another dl.
[01:41] <ikhider> If she likes it, she can install on the hard drive
[01:41] <kaliree> Later.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: id go with that
[01:41] <kidbuntu> vaxius: ok
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: i dont like azureus, i think java apps are flakey
[01:41] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: unfortunately going with that doesn't get me any help unless they agree to it ;)
[01:41] <catmando_> someone enlighten me
[01:41] <c1rcuit> exodus_ms
[01:41] <c1rcuit> er
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> catmando_: wassup?
[01:41] <ikhider> catmando--what is the sound of one hand clapping?
[01:41] <keres> onetinman: http://pastebin.com/m4b46ea8
[01:41] <Panarchy> Well I've been working on my ubuntu installation via VMware workstation 6.5.1, on Windows XP. Started with ubuntu alternative CD
[01:41] <Panarchy> How long is it meant to take?
[01:41] <c1rcuit> when i try to dual boot
[01:41] <Panarchy> [configuring apt] - Scanning the mirror - 50%
[01:42] <catmando_> in the repos, the drivers marked with envy - are they specifically for use by envy?
[01:42] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: you familiar with any of the bitorrent clients for linux?  I'm looking for something solid with a little bit more organization than transmission offers...
[01:42] <catmando_> or what's the deal with them
[01:42] <c1rcuit> i see no way to resize my partitions
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | gbear14275
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: i'm a ktorrent dude
[01:42] <roelof> i get Gnome-WARNING **: invalid gnome config path '=/section/key' can somebody help me
[01:42] <catmando_> i thought that envy went off and got whatever driver it found to be the best for a given card
[01:43] <c1rcuit> exodus_ms are u there?
[01:43] <onetinsoldier> keres: dpkg -l libglib2.0-dev  ..do you have it installed?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> catmando_: yep if you use hardware detection
[01:43] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[01:43] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: what I like about azureus is the ability to store torrents in different folders than the file... I found the file management portions of transmission are a little... broken (can't navigate down at all)  how is ktorrent on that aspect?
[01:43] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, yeah, whats up?
[01:43] <c1rcuit> i cant seem to dual boot exodus_ms
[01:43] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: so the restricted driver app _is_ envy?
[01:44] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, okay, what is the problem?
[01:44] <vaxius> kidbuntu: maybe /var/log/udev will tell me something; i'm googling for similar problems in the mean time
[01:44] <c1rcuit> i should see "guided- resize resize etc... and use freed space
[01:44] <c1rcuit> but i dont
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> catmando_: no but it installs some drivers though
[01:44] <onetinsoldier> keres: grrr... ok. well, we got it to recognize that you have the gl.h   i'm thinking again
[01:44] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: i see :)
[01:45] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: and it uses those drivers marked envy?
[01:45] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, ok, installing on a windoze system?
[01:45] <c1rcuit> yes
[01:45] <andresmh> in compiz, what is dbus for and why should i enable or disable it?
[01:45] <c1rcuit> is there any way i can pm you this is too hectic
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> catmando_: i dont believe so, i could be wrong
[01:45] <onetinsoldier> keres: try the following...   export  LDFLAGS="/usr/include/GL /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib"   ...and then try make again
[01:45] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: i see how it works now
[01:46] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, better not, someone might benefit from your troubleshooting
[01:46] <roelof> can somebody help me
[01:46] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: i was under the mistaken impression that envy would go off and get _any_ driver it felt was good
[01:46] <c1rcuit> ok
[01:46] <keres> onetinman: same
[01:46] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: it seems it relies on the drivers marked envy in the repos
[01:46] <catmando_> :)
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Dbus
[01:46] <alex_21> Hey, guys. I want to compile a browser.
[01:46] <onetinsoldier> keres: really!!??? dangit
[01:46] <c1rcuit> so.. according to this website there are four different options
[01:46] <vaxius> kidbuntu: you still there?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> catmando_: you can install envyng-gtk and install envy drivers
[01:46] <alex_21> I don't know how, and would appreciate a walk through in making a .deb
[01:46] <kidbuntu> vaxius: still here
[01:46] <c1rcuit> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm?page=3
[01:47] <c1rcuit> but
[01:47] <c1rcuit> i only have 2
[01:47] <alex_21> there is no config file
[01:47] <kidbuntu> vaxius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84991/
[01:47] <catmando_> ActionParsnip: yeah, got it. many thanks
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> alex_21: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:47] <iluminator1001> Can some please help me, I am having some various problems with my ubuntu laptop?
[01:47] <onetinsoldier> keres: make sure you have the file....   ls -l /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gutils.h
[01:48] <andresmh> Ace2016_, i must admit that i read that page and I didn't get it :-/
[01:48] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, Are you trying to install Ubuntu on a windoze system?
[01:48] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m12bc7bda
[01:48] <andresmh> ActionParsnip, i must admit i read that page and i didn't get it
[01:49] <c1rcuit> YES
[01:49] <c1rcuit> i am
[01:49] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, I'm just asking what you had installed first, Windoze or Ubuntu
[01:49] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, you didn't need to use pastebin for that. i just need to see that one line. but ok, you have it... thinking
[01:49] <nickdynamite> hello, sorry if this is offtopic, but does anyone know which DE is used in the screenshot: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6594/200812141232131920x1080ig0.png
[01:49] <roelof> can somebody help me i get Gnome-WARNING **: invalid gnome config path '=/section/key' when installing applications and other warnings
[01:49] <keres> i didn't know if i did or not, so i pastebinned it
[01:50] <andresmh> what is a DE nickdynamite ?
[01:50] <raylu> c1rcuit: instead of following an outdated tutorial, just read the prompts...
[01:50] <iluminator1001> first my sd/mmc card is not being read, second my dual core is functioning properly
[01:50] <iluminator1001> not*
[01:50] <c1rcuit> that doest help
[01:50] <c1rcuit> lol
[01:50] <raylu> nickdynamite: if i had to guess, fluxbox/icewm
[01:50] <alex_21> I now have build essential
[01:50] <vaxius> kidbuntu: so this drive stops working, and then you have to restart hal?
[01:50] <alex_21> Now what?
[01:51] <nickdynamite> andresmh: like gnome or somthing
[01:51] <kidbuntu> vaxius: kinda
[01:51] <c1rcuit> exodus_ms are you theree
[01:51] <raylu> c1rcuit: could you show us the options that you do see?
[01:51] <vaxius> kidbuntu: or it doesn't work at all until you restart hal?
[01:51] <andresmh> ah i window manager nickdynamite
[01:51] <andresmh> s/i/a/
[01:51] <iluminator1001> wrong paste
[01:51] <andresmh> looks like xfce
[01:52] <raylu> andresmh: ...how does that look _anything_ like xfce?
[01:52] <kidbuntu> vaxius: thats exactly whats happening..everytime i start my ubuntu.. it wont work. i always have to restart hal on terminal
[01:52] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, I'm not comfortable with walking you through this since there might be data on your existing hdd that could be possible lost if directions are not followed
[01:52] <nickdynamite> i had xfce before but it looks different
[01:52] <n1lo> Hi people!
[01:52] <nickdynamite> xubuntu
[01:53] <vaxius> k, i don't think it's a hal or udev problem then (finding no errors confirms this), so we need to make that fstab entry
[01:53] <andresmh> umm maybe not, nvm
[01:53] <iluminator1001> k so you ready for this... this is big
[01:53] <n1lo> How can I remove vmware to start with the system?
[01:53] <c1rcuit> raylu i see: Guided -use entire disk and then under that indented is  : SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) -60.0 GB ATA ST360015A and also SCSi (0,0,0( (sdb) - 4.1 GB PNY USB 2.0 FD
[01:53] <iluminator1001> [   56.278078] b43-phy0 debug: Loading firmware version 351.126 (2006-07-29 05:54:02)
[01:53] <iluminator1001> [   57.622857] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
[01:53] <iluminator1001> [   57.623157] b43-phy0 debug: 32-bit DMA initialized
[01:53] <iluminator1001> [   57.624280] Registered led device: b43-phy0:tx
[01:53] <iluminator1001> [   57.624308] Registered led device: b43-phy0:rx
[01:53] <FloodBot3> iluminator1001: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <exodus_ms> c1rcuit, http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/05/08/dual-boot-laptop.html
[01:53] <c1rcuit> exodus
[01:53] <c1rcuit> i backed up
[01:53] <c1rcuit> all my things
[01:53] <raylu> nickdynamite: http://fluxbox.org/screenshots/screenshots_full/screenshot_tenner.png
[01:53] <eseven73> alex_21: typically its just a matter of cd'ing into the folder that you extracted the browser tar or what ever, then doing './configure && make && make install' but are you sure theres no 'install.pl or install.sh' or something?
[01:54] <vaxius> kidbuntu: do you know which device your drive is? (e.g.: /dev/sdb1)
[01:54] <Panarchy> Well I've been working on my ubuntu installation via VMware workstation 6.5.1, on Windows XP. Started with ubuntu alternative CD
[01:54] <Panarchy> How long is it meant to take?
[01:54] <Panarchy> [configuring apt] - Scanning the mirror - 50%
[01:54] <raylu> c1rcuit: no other options? could you peraps take a screenshot?
[01:54] <kidbuntu> vaxius: i think thats the one i'm on in.. my ubuntu
[01:54] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. the whole time you were trying to set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH, i think it was being set to the wrong path.. so we will try that again... ok?
[01:54] <alex_21> I don't know how, and would appreciate a walk through in making a .deb. there is no config file. I already have Build-essential and this is a instance of Webkit I am trying to compile
[01:54] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: for sure not so long, since you asked the last time... do you haev networking enabled in the VM?
[01:55] <nickdynamite> raylu: okay thankyou
[01:55] <nickdynamite> but i don't think it's fluxbox now :(
[01:55] <keres> ok
[01:55] <raylu> alex_21: why do you need a deb?
[01:55] <vaxius> kidbuntu: i hope not, you system is listing that as an ntfs drive
[01:55] <eseven73> raylu: im wondering that too
[01:55] <mike2001> i have a 3945abg intel wireless card and ubuntu must not be finding it
[01:55] <raylu> nickdynamite: http://xwinman.org/ good luck.
[01:56] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: Everything is enabled... defaults!
[01:56] <Panarchy> zsquareplusc: It's been at 50% for the last... ages!
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> keres: do...  export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/bin"
[01:56] <kidbuntu> vaxius: the dev/sdd1 is the ntfs which is a seperate harddrive.. i dont have other partitions. i have 4 harddisk installed
[01:56] <Panarchy> sdd?
[01:56] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i still think he needs to find the right packages and let configure set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[01:56] <alex_21> raylu: Because I want to distribue it, it is a custom build
[01:57] <alex_21> Distribute, sorry
[01:57] <keres> onetinsoldier: then?
[01:57] <zsquareplusc> Panarchy: hm. well if networking is not working properly it can have long timeouts. maybe you could switch off networking in the VM for the install and try/fix that later.
[01:57] <kidbuntu> vaxius: and also.. the dev/sda1 is my other ntfs.
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i hear you.. but i discovered something.. there is no configure script for this source.. only a Makefile
[01:57] <onetinsoldier> keres: try make again
[01:58] <keres> onetinsoldier: same thing :S
[01:58] <vaxius> kidbuntu: k, could you give me the output of fdisk -l /dev/sd* so i can see a layout of all your drives?
[01:58] <raylu> onetinsoldier, keres: try autoreconf
[01:58] <x[Mop]x> Hey, I'm on the latest ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop so I could have KDE. It runs fine, but PAINFULLY slow. Any suggestions, please?
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> keres: i give up for now... but i'll keep thinking about it. i will look into downloading the source and seeing if i can get it to compile on my system
[01:58] <keres> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[01:58] <raylu> alex_21: i'm not sure this is the best place to ask. try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003 or one of the other ubuntu channels (listed in /topic)
[01:58] <TJ13820> does anyone recall a web based program that allowed (over SSH) a user to configure a server? (Programs, ports etc.)
[01:59] <nickdynamite> raylu: do you know the terminal font in: http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6594/200812141232131920x1080ig0.png
[01:59] <gbear14275> ssh
[01:59] <gbear14275> ?
[01:59] <keres> onetinman: no complaints here
[01:59] <kidbuntu> vaxius: Cannot open /dev/sda
[01:59] <kidbuntu> Cannot open /dev/sda1
[01:59] <kidbuntu> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[01:59] <kidbuntu> Cannot open /dev/sdb1
[01:59] <kidbuntu> Cannot open /dev/sdb2
[01:59] <FloodBot3> kidbuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <kidbuntu> Cannot open /dev/sdb5
[01:59] <keres> thank you for helping
[01:59] <gbear14275> that would be putty
[01:59] <gbear14275> TJ13820: Putty?
[01:59] <nbeebo> i feel bad for kidbuntu
[01:59] <raylu> TJ13820: ... web -> ssh? er...that just sounds like a horrible idea
[01:59] <Anacranom> !paste | kidbuntu
[01:59] <vaxius> kidbuntu: oops, gave you a crappy command, one sec
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> keres: you're welcome... sorry i couldn't get it, yet
[01:59] <TJ13820> no.
[01:59] <gbear14275> TJ13820: Webmin?
[01:59] <TJ13820> YES!
[01:59] <TJ13820> thank you!
[02:00] <bjbum> is anyone else having trouble with HAL for hardware inputs? I've tried to make my own .fdi in etc/hal/fdi/policy/, but even after restarting i'm having no luck :( (I'm trying to disable 3 button simulation)
[02:00] <gbear14275> TJ13820: no prob
[02:00] <TJ13820> *hug* xD
[02:00] <kidbuntu> vaxius: heheheh.. thought i just copied a little.
[02:00] <raylu> !webmin | TJ13820
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[02:00] <TJ13820> hehe
[02:00] <n1lo> How can I remove vmware to start with the system?
[02:00] <vaxius> kidbuntu: just "fdisk -l" should work i guess
[02:00] <raylu> vaxius: sudo
[02:01] <gbear14275> TJ13820: sorry, didn't know that
[02:01] <irvin> i need help, i found something that says it's a fix for the xorg problem on the intel g45 and ubuntu but the "patch" doesn't say how to implement it
[02:01] <TJ13820> lol, np
[02:01] <TJ13820> i'll get something to work.
[02:01] <kidbuntu> vaxius: Cannot open /dev/sda Cannot open /dev/sdb Cannot open /dev/sdc Cannot open /dev/sdd
[02:01] <c1rcuit> raylu
[02:01] <vaxius> raylu: my bad
[02:01] <c1rcuit> here
[02:01] <nbeebo> n1lo, its in gnome-menu, system > preferences > sessions
[02:01] <TJ13820> It's for CentOS also
[02:01] <TJ13820> so that may not be an issue
[02:01] <c1rcuit> http://s440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/c1rcuit123/?action=view&current=stuff.jpg
[02:01] <raylu> TJ13820: CentOS and Ubuntu are miles apart, imo
[02:01] <vaxius> kidbuntu: we've been forgetting to put "sudo" in front of it, try that with the first command: "sudo fdisk -l sd*"
[02:02] <BlueColibri> can somebody help me i get Gnome-WARNING **: invalid gnome config path '=/section/key' when installing applications and other warnings
[02:02] <Panarchy> zsquareplus: Now installing it (without stopping this installation) on a different computer
[02:02] <vaxius> kidbuntu: my bad
[02:02] <n1lo> nbeebo, No, not this, it's on the system init..
[02:02] <TJ13820> raylu: i know :) i have them both in VM's under a BSD for special tasks
[02:02] <raylu> c1rcuit: what's sda5? also, what do you want it to be afterwards?
[02:03] <vaxius> kidbuntu: *thats /dev/sd* btw; i can't type today :-(
[02:03] <kidbuntu> vaxius: on terminal nothing happens with "*"
[02:03] <c1rcuit> its just the name i dont want to rename or change it just make room for ubuntu
[02:03] <raylu> kidbuntu: forget sd*, just "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:03] <c1rcuit> raylu
[02:03] <raylu> c1rcuit: i know that. i mean what's on sd5 right now?
[02:03] <raylu> c1rcuit: and what do you want to look like afterwards? also, is sd1 your windows installation?
[02:04] <raylu> *sda5/1
[02:04] <c1rcuit> sd1 is windows
[02:04] <c1rcuit> i think
[02:04] <vaxius> raylu: i didn't know if he'd restarted hal yet, so i don't know if all the partitions will be in /proc/partitions
[02:04] <kidbuntu> vaxius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84992/
[02:04] <raylu> :D
[02:05] <raylu> c1rcuit: i'd suggest going to the Places menu at the top left and selecting the drives
[02:05] <raylu> c1rcuit: so that you're sure you know what you're doing after we go into the manual partitioning
[02:05] <c1rcuit> ok
[02:05] <vaxius> kidbuntu: k, going to go over your drives with you:
[02:06] <x[Mop]x> Hey, I'm on the latest ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop so I could have KDE. It runs, but PAINFULLY slow. Any suggestions, please?
[02:06] <vaxius> kidbuntu: first one is your windows install?
[02:06] <kidbuntu> vaxius: yes
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> x[Mop]x: it may be trying to do #d effects
[02:06] <eseven73> if kde is painfully slow for you, you need something like Xubuntu
[02:06] <x[Mop]x> Ubuntu runs fine, I'm on 2.4ghz dual core / nvidia 8600.
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> x[Mop]x: right click on a title bar-> properties ...and turn off the desktop effects
[02:07] <vaxius> kidbuntu: 2nd drive has your linux install and linux swap?
[02:07] <x[Mop]x> Before I installed Ubuntu, I had Kubuntu running in VMWare, where, it ran faster.
[02:07] <x[Mop]x> With all effects enabled...
[02:07] <kidbuntu> vaxius: yes
[02:08] <c1rcuit> raylu what am i supposed to do in the places menu
[02:08] <user01> you aren't supposed to use swap on ssd right?
[02:08] <vaxius> kidbuntu: 3rd drive...are you using that to share files between windows/linux, and is it the drive you have to restart hal for?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> user01: no.. not a good idea
[02:08] <raylu> c1rcuit: find your drives, click them
[02:08] <raylu> c1rcuit: that will mount them so that you can investigate what's inside
[02:08]  * raylu brb
[02:08] <user01> nosrednaekim, thanks . . . do ssd really last longer do you know?
[02:08] <dmulholland> hey, is it possible to suspend a ubuntu system from the command line? I'm running ubuntu on my EEE and I'm wondering if I switch to boot to console without X can i still suspend?
[02:09] <vaxius> kidbuntu: first part of the question doesn't really matter, i guess
[02:09] <alex_21> webmin is out, now replaced with ebox
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> user01: longer than a hard drive? it would depend on how you you it I would suppose
[02:09] <kidbuntu> vaxius: others are just storage devices i use for windows. and i cant access all the windows harddisk and the rest of the harddisk
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> user01: If all you do is read from it, it should last forever
[02:09] <zsquareplusc> dmulholland: pm-suspend
[02:10] <user01> nosrednaekim, oh so it would be better for one time backups then
[02:10] <user01> nosrednaekim, not really a file server
[02:10] <dmulholland> thanks zsquareplusc just what I was looking for, does it work well?
[02:10] <vaxius> kidbuntu: so you're just concerned with the first two?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> user01: well, its not really "cheap" enough for backups... its usual purpose are low power or small form factor devices
[02:11] <c1rcuit> raylu
[02:11] <user01> nosrednaekim, like a root directory on a file server
[02:11] <psiforce> does anyone else have a problem with pulse audio, occasionally when running playing an avi and having other programs like firefox, my cpu ramps up to 100% (I'm running intrepid 64bit)
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> user01: its not really appropriate at all for a desktop or server
[02:11] <kidbuntu> vaxius: yes. actually that is only the problem.. i dont always want to restart hal always everytime i have to login in on my ubuntu
[02:11] <zsquareplusc> dmulholland: depends on hardware and whatnot. its the utility that is run then you do suspend from X. does it work there for you?
[02:11] <c1rcuit> i see: sda1 (ntfs) and sda5 (ntfs)
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> user01: I suppose, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense... just put a hard drive in
[02:11] <Panarchy> Well I've been working on my ubuntu installation via VMware workstation 6.5.1, on Windows XP. Started with ubuntu alternative CD
[02:11] <Panarchy> How long is it meant to take?
[02:12] <Panarchy> [configuring apt] - Scanning the mirror - 50%
[02:12] <zsquareplusc> dmulholland: and.. you have a Zzz key. pressing that one togther with Fn should also suspend
[02:12] <dmulholland> zsquareplusc, will try it in a minute, need to finish updating and then ditch X
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> Panarchy: you probably don't have a network connection set up... I think you can safely skip that step
[02:12] <vaxius> kidbuntu: k, i have enough info to give you a different entry for sdb1
[02:12] <Panarchy> HOW
[02:12] <user01> nosrednaekim, i was thinking of getting like a 8gb ssd do a minimal install for a fileserver
[02:12] <Panarchy> (caps lock, sorry)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> Panarchy: hmm... not sure in the alternate installer. I know there is a button in the liveCD installer
[02:13] <user01> nosrednaekim, for the base system not the file
[02:13] <dmulholland> zsquareplusc, trying to see if I can get my EEE running and doing all the functions i need without X, want a boot that I can get wireless and programming from with max batt life
[02:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, i now have the source downloaded with svn
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> user01: yeah, that should work fine, but what exactly are looking for in a flash drive of that size that you can't get in a hard drive?
[02:13] <Panarchy> nosrednaekim: How?
[02:13] <user01> nosrednaekim, wouldnt it be faster?
[02:14] <vaxius> kidbuntu: one more question: where do you want the windows partition to be mounted?
[02:14] <raylu> c1rcuit: hi
[02:14] <kidbuntu> vaxius: /media
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> user01: depends on the drive... possibly. but then again, its the root partitioin on a file server, almost anything you will be needing will already be cached in RAM
[02:15] <user01> nosrednaekim, hmmm
[02:15] <c1rcuit> hey raylu: when i look at the prepare partitions i see sda 1(ntfs) which has 835 and sda5(ntfs) which has 16%
[02:15] <zsquareplusc> dmulholland: i'm not sure if a text console really uses less battery than X. at least if you switch off effects and antialised fonts.
[02:15] <apo_> dmulholland: You're not going to get wireless AND good battery life =P
[02:15] <vaxius> kidbuntu: that's usually for removable media, but ok, how about /media/windows?
[02:15] <raylu> c1rcuit: again, do you know which partition is which?
[02:15] <sjanssen> after the upgrade to Intrepid, my audio card's line out only plays the left channel, the right is totally silent.  My sound card is an SiS SI7012.  What can I do?
[02:15] <c1rcuit> no i dont know how to find them in my places
[02:15] <sjanssen> also: both channels worked in the previous version
[02:15] <kidbuntu> vaxius: will the fsck after 20 times mounting will fix the problem..
[02:16] <apo_> dmulholland: Also, if you're not using any effects and use a minimalistic window manager (dwm!), X doesn't need more energy than a pure terminal.
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Panarchy: I'm not sure... I haven't really used the laternate CD in a while, sorry
[02:16] <zsquareplusc> sjanssen: did you check the mixer settings? is the balance centered?
[02:16] <sjanssen> zsquareplusc: I believe so.  What is a quick way to check this?
[02:16] <raylu> c1rcuit: do you see hard drive icons labled something like "20gb media"?
[02:16] <phantomcircuit> Why aren't delete operations instantaneous? Isn't it just a matter of deleting an entry in a file table?
[02:17] <raylu> c1rcuit: also, please prefix messages to me with my name
[02:17] <vaxius> kidbuntu: nope, fsck is for checking/repairing damaged linux filesystems
[02:17] <c1rcuit> raylu: np
[02:17] <c1rcuit> no*
[02:17] <raylu> phantomcircuit: yes. what isn't?
[02:17] <dmulholland> apo_, I guess that's fair but terminal will give me better boot speed, might just tweak my X then
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Panarchy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4457154&postcount=7
[02:17] <apo_> dmulholland: Huh? X only needs a second or two to start.
[02:17] <azucar> hola
[02:17] <zsquareplusc> sjanssen: double click speaker icon and check the sliders in the dialog that pops up
[02:17] <Panarchy> nosrednaekim: Oh...
[02:17] <azucar> hi
[02:17] <phantomcircuit> raylu, delete operations seem to take longer on larger files, which doesn't make sense to me
[02:17] <kidbuntu> vaxius: from my own understanding.. i think there is no specific mount point
[02:17] <sjanssen> zsquareplusc: in which GUI?  Sorry, I'm more of a console person
[02:17] <raylu> phantomcircuit: ext3?
[02:17] <vaxius> kidbuntu: try this fstab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/84993/
[02:17] <dranzer> im speak spanish... help me!!!
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Panarchy: how long have you been waiting?
[02:17] <phantomcircuit> raylu, yes
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !es
[02:17] <apo_> dmulholland: But I don't have X in my rcs either - when I'm logged in, I just type startx.
[02:18] <raylu> phantomcircuit: hrm. i have no idea
[02:18] <zsquareplusc> sjanssen: then use alsamixer :-)
[02:18] <dmulholland> apo_, i mean tweak what runs on top of X, try xfce or something
[02:18] <kidbuntu> vaxius:  it justs mount if i mount it or double click it
[02:18] <dranzer> ubottu
[02:18] <raylu> c1rcuit: that's kind of strange. what's in /media right now?
[02:18] <sjanssen> zsquareplusc: all of the volume levels look equal
[02:18] <Panarchy> Wait, I think on the other computer I'm trying it on, that it is working!
[02:18] <matt__> I'm trying to learn to find command. Or something similiar. I'm trying to find all the *.jpg in a lot of subdirectories and delete them. Any advice?
[02:18] <dranzer> puedo iniciar con xchat una seseion en msn???
[02:18] <srothroc> Is it possible to make a bootable Ubuntu EEE image on a SD card?
[02:18] <bjbum> I cannot for the life of me disable 3 button simulation with my mouse  >.< damn this HAL!
[02:18] <zsquareplusc> sjanssen: do you run pulseaudio?
[02:18] <Flannel> !es | dranzer
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> srothroc: sure
[02:18] <raylu> matt__: find -iname "*.jpg" -exec rm {} \;
[02:18] <sjanssen> zsquareplusc: not intentionally, but yes
[02:18] <matt__> srothroc: I'd say so...I'd just follow the instructions for a usb drive.
[02:19] <srothroc> Ah, thanks.
[02:19] <DarkKnight> hey how do i create dvd image and burn it on other dvd's
[02:19] <vaxius> kidbuntu: automatically mounting like that makes a directory in /media named after the device and mounts it there
[02:19] <raylu> matt__: that's case insensitive. run it without -exec ... to see what it will delete
[02:19] <dranzer> gracias
[02:19] <dranzer> por correerme
[02:19] <dranzer> jajaja
[02:19] <dranzer> salduso
[02:19] <srothroc> I've had an eee PC sitting around gathering dust for a few months, so I figured I might as well use it.
[02:19] <raylu> !es | dranzer
[02:19] <c1rcuit> raylu: how do i check
[02:19] <zsquareplusc> sjanssen: then you might want to check alsamixer -c1 or -c0 too. one is the real soundcard, the other the pulseaudio device
[02:19] <c1rcuit> when i click places
[02:19] <matt__> raylu: Taking a look...thanks!
[02:19] <c1rcuit> no media comes up
[02:19] <kidbuntu> vaxius: ok ill try
[02:19] <vaxius> kidbuntu: try restarting and tell me if it worked
[02:19] <sjanssen> zsquareplusc: right, I had to alsamixer -c 0 to get the actual soundcard
[02:20] <kidbuntu> vaxius. ok
[02:20] <raylu> c1rcuit: either open the terminal (applications > terminal) and type "ls /media" or go to places > computer and navigate to /media
[02:20] <matt__> raylu: So if I cd to my music main directory..it'll only look in there, and its subdirectories, correct?
[02:20] <raylu> matt__: right. by default, it looks in .
[02:20] <gradin> how do you move files via shell?
[02:20] <c1rcuit> raylu: lordoftherings and my usb
[02:20] <c1rcuit> lol
[02:20] <raylu> matt__: you can also use "find /foo/bar -name...
[02:20] <chipsoft> Ohai
[02:20] <raylu> c1rcuit: um...?
[02:21] <raylu> gradin: mv
[02:21] <matt__> raylu: And I could replace rm with mv /home/matt/Data/Backup or something like that couldn't i?
[02:21] <gradin> i'm ssh'd in and i want to move a directory from one location to the other but it says the directory is not empty
[02:21] <srothroc> Does anyone know of any Lightroom-like RAW processing solutions for Ubuntu?
[02:21] <raylu> matt__: yep
[02:21] <c1rcuit> raylu: i typed what u said and my dvd and usb came up
[02:21] <bjbum> Anyone familiar with HAL? I've created an fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ to disable 3buttonsimulation, but even after restarting and replugging the device, the settings won't change
[02:21] <matt__> raylu: sweet you's!
[02:21] <chipsoft> can some1 help me with a xubuntu prob?
[02:21] <raylu> matt__: {} is replaced with the file and \; ends the command...i think
[02:21] <Panarchy> #xubuntu
[02:21] <raylu> c1rcuit: ok. you're in the terminal?
[02:21] <c1rcuit> raylu: yes
[02:21] <raylu> chipsoft: not if you don't ask
[02:22] <nikitis> Is there a way to make Banshee more compact?
[02:22] <raylu> c1rcuit: cd /media
[02:22] <matt__> raylu: meaing {} is replaced with the files it finds ?
[02:22] <raylu> matt__: yes
[02:22] <matt__> cool.
[02:22] <keres> i have 8.10, is it possible to dual boot 8.4, i need 8.4 for compatability with an important application
[02:22] <greenleaf> Is there an easy way to create a restore CD/DVD of a fully set up and configured Ubuntu system so that I can quickly restore my system if it gets hosed for some reason?
[02:22] <raylu> c1rcuit: sudo mkdir sda5
[02:22] <raylu> c1rcuit: sudo mount /dev/sda5 sda5
[02:22] <chipsoft> Xubuntu channel is dead >.<
[02:23] <AlfredHitchcock> a
[02:23] <jtaji> greenleaf: look into clonezilla
[02:23] <raylu> greenleaf: isn't the livecd "fully set up and configured" enough?
[02:23] <greenleaf> raylu, the livecd doesn't have additional software installed by default
[02:24] <c1rcuit> raylu:ok
[02:24] <c1rcuit> now what
[02:24] <andres1> anyone can help me ...i lost a lot of files n my mini is not working properly how do i reinstall ubuntu
[02:24] <raylu> c1rcuit: now, ls sda5
[02:24] <c1rcuit> ok
[02:24] <raylu> c1rcuit: can you identify what sda5 is with that information?
[02:24] <chiamy> is ubuntu 8.04 more stable than 8.10 version?
[02:25] <eseven73> of course chiamy its a LTS
[02:25] <c1rcuit> raylu: i think it is my d drive
[02:25] <andres1> ?
[02:25] <chipsoft> i have this problem, my xubuntu colors are mixed up, the firefox icon is blue/green etc
[02:25] <chipsoft> can somene help ;e with that?
[02:25] <raylu> c1rcuit: one day, people will realize that the "d drive" is just a windows mount point for a partition
[02:25] <kidbuntu> vaxius: no luck.. i still have to restart hal on terminal.. well anyway.. i'll just live with.. i could still access the files
[02:26] <c1rcuit> raylu: so i can just select that?
[02:26] <c1rcuit> for the partitions
[02:26] <DarkKnight> hey how do i create dvd image and burn it on other dvd's
[02:26] <keres> i have 8.10, is it possible to dual boot 8.4, i need 8.4 for compatability with an important application
[02:26] <raylu> c1rcuit: um...
[02:26] <andres1> how do it reisntall ubuntu
[02:26] <raylu> c1rcuit: what's in sda5? are you willing to remove this partition?
[02:26] <c1rcuit> yes
[02:26] <raylu> andres1: the same way you install ubuntu
[02:27] <raylu> c1rcuit: er...are you sure? what's in there?
[02:27] <c1rcuit> rayly: its just some folders for my homework for school
[02:27] <c1rcuit> lol
[02:27] <DarkKnight> hey how do i create dvd image and burn it on other dvd's
[02:27] <c1rcuit> and pictures of me
[02:27] <chipsoft> I neeeeed help
[02:27] <c1rcuit> which i do not need
[02:27] <gradin> raylu: /last gradin
[02:27] <raylu> c1rcuit: in that case, you could go into manual partitioning and erase sda5
[02:27] <andres1> this was a gift i usualy work w windows ...this dell mini came w it but its having problems
[02:27] <c1rcuit> ok
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> raylu Generall we tell people to make a mount point in /media  as in /media/sda5
[02:28] <luv_cute> hi
[02:28] <raylu> gradin: show me the command you are using
[02:28] <raylu> Jack_Sparrow: isn't that what i did?
[02:28] <gradin> mv The\ Elite\ Squad\[2007\]DVDrip\[AC-3\(5.1\)ENG\]\[a\ UKB-RG\ Xvid\ by
[02:28] <gradin> \]-\ keltz/ ../Movies/
[02:28] <chipsoft> can someone help me plzzzz
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> raylu was he already in /media.. ?
[02:28] <andres1> so how would i reinstall it
[02:28] <c1rcuit> raylu: its now known as free space
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > chipsoft
[02:28] <Psi-Jack> The JFS filesystem, has anyone had any troubles with it?
[02:28] <c1rcuit> raylu: i can just select that and proceed?
[02:28] <raylu> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[02:28] <andres1> i dont know how to do it ..
[02:28] <tensop-> Hmm, anyone here knowledgable with sed or something similar? i want to filter down some text so it only displays what is between { and } in a pipe
[02:29] <raylu> c1rcuit: you would then have to create two paritions. one as ext3 and one as swap
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> raylu t, jst checking, I just got back from outside
[02:29] <raylu> !swap
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> andres1 Put in a ubntucd and boot it up
[02:29] <sjanssen> oh, looks like my sound card might think it is in surround mode.  How can I turn that off?
[02:29] <andres1> anyone
[02:29] <c1rcuit> raylu: just click new partition?
[02:30] <raylu> gradin: that's strange
[02:30] <andres1> i have n external drive
[02:30] <andres1> this is a dell mini
[02:30] <raylu> gradin: it should work. could you rename that giant file to something smaller for now?
[02:30] <raylu> c1rcuit: yes
[02:30] <c1rcuit> raylu: should i changed the partition size to half of what i already have?
[02:30] <c1rcuit> for each one
[02:30] <c1rcuit> so they can all fit
[02:30] <Psi-Jack> I'm getting this from a fsck.jsf -n on my / parition: Errors detected in the Fileset File/Directory Allocation Map control information.  (F); Errors detected in the Fileset File/Directory Allocation Map. (F); Filesystem is dirty but is marked clean.
[02:31] <user01> is there a quick command to see how much ram is installed on the system?
[02:31] <raylu> c1rcuit: no. how much ram do you have?
[02:31] <raylu> user01: free
[02:31] <c1rcuit> er
[02:31] <c1rcuit> how do i check raylu?
[02:31] <raylu> user01: free --help to make it readable
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft What all have you installed from outside sources?   What specific flavor of ubuntu are you using.. lsb_release -a in term if you dont know
[02:32] <raylu> c1rcuit: read what i said to user01 :D
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > andres1
[02:32] <chipsoft> jack, im using xubuntu
[02:32] <andres1> ok
[02:32] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft that does not answer m question.
[02:33] <c1rcuit> raylu: i have 19160
[02:33] <c1rcuit> free
[02:33] <DarkKnight> hey how do i create dvd image and burn it on other dvd's
[02:33] <user01> raylu, thanks
[02:33] <c1rcuit> for mem, that is
[02:33] <andres1> how do i reinstall ubuntu on a dell mini
[02:33] <raylu> c1rcuit: use "free -m" please. what is the total mem?
[02:34] <c1rcuit> raylu: 501
[02:34] <raylu> c1rcuit: ok. how much free space is there after removing sda5?
[02:34] <c1rcuit> raylu: i already did
[02:34] <andres1> i have n external cd drive...
[02:34] <andres1> how do i run the ubuntu cd from there
[02:35] <chipsoft> jack, what do u mean with flavour?
[02:35] <user01> is there a command to see if it is all in one memory module or more than one?
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> andres1 What part of insert a cd and boot it up do you not understand..  (Not trying to be sarcastic, but that is a very basic instruction)
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > andres1
[02:35] <DarkKnight> hey in a client-sever systems.... there is a net connection only for the server...so will the client systems be able to update through the sever
[02:35] <raylu> c1rcuit: right...so how much space do you have?
[02:35] <user01> and what kind of memory it is?
[02:36] <andres1> wat part of it doesnt run ..when i tryed to do so
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft I gave you a command to type in a terminal that would tell you
[02:36] <andres1> i have and external drive and its not doing it
[02:36] <c1rcuit> raylu: for mem: total = 501 used = 482 and free = 18
[02:36] <Paralyzed> reckon' anyone here can help with a defragment problem?
[02:36] <chipsoft> can u plz give it again?
[02:36] <Paralyzed> its for ubuntu
[02:36] <DarkKnight> hey in a client-sever systems.... there is a net connection only for the server...so will the client systems be able to update through the sever
[02:36] <andres1> its a dell mini it doesnt have a cd drive
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> andres1 Please read the page I linked on installing ubuntu...
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft lsb_release -a
[02:37] <Sorcererbob> DarkKnight: if the server is set up to be a proxy, then sure
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> andres1 Please read the page I linked on installing ubuntu...
[02:37] <Paralyzed> Anyone here ota help?
[02:37] <raylu> c1rcuit: not memory, hard drive space. after deleting sda5, how much hd space?
[02:37] <c1rcuit> o
[02:37] <c1rcuit> lol
[02:37] <raylu> !ask | Paralyzed
[02:37] <oso_polar> hello all
[02:38] <chiamy> does anyone use Thinkpad x41t here? I have some problem with middle button of the trackpoint under ubuntu
[02:38] <oso_polar> absolute linux newbie here....
[02:38] <c1rcuit> raylu: 16%
[02:38] <user01> chiamy, nope i have a t40 and r40
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Paralyzed Are you tring to defrag an ext3 partition, it generally is not necessary
[02:38] <Paralyzed> I need help with defragmenting my disk to install ubuntu, except when i do that it will only analyze up to 35 percent , something about inconsisties and its saying i need to run chkdsk.
[02:38] <DarkKnight> Sorcererbob; what's a proxy...i wanted to install a ubuntu client-sever systems...with almost 65 client systems..... and i m new to the sever and i dont know what's a proxy
[02:38] <chipsoft> jack im using ubuntu 8.10 inteprid or something
[02:38] <Paralyzed> my harddrive
[02:39] <vaxius> Paralyzed: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-425412.html
[02:39] <Paralyzed> i have 10gb left, and i would  like more for proper ubuntu
[02:39] <storrgie> i would really appreciate help setting up bind 9 with my T1
[02:39] <WebcamWonder> Guys, where do I throw in a script to ensure that the RTS of my card is set to 2346 on every boot. Right now, it defaults to off. I believe it was in rc.local somewhere. It has completely slipped my mind
[02:39] <c1rcuit> raylu: how do i check?
[02:39] <vaxius> Paralyzed: you need to resize other partitions or get another drive
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Paralyzed if you are tring to defrag a windows partition from windows and having issues, please /j #Windows
[02:40] <chipsoft> jack, im using ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[02:40] <Paralyzed> I'm trying to defrag the disk itself for now
[02:40] <Paralyzed> or harddrive for more space
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Paralyzed From windows or ubuntu?
[02:41] <c1rcuit> raylu: it says the free space size is 9689 MB
[02:41] <Paralyzed> on a windows system
[02:41] <earthling> i'm STILL getting 'read only file system' when trying to save files to a usb disk with vfat file system.  WHY?
[02:41] <DarkKnight> Sorcererbob; what's a proxy...i wanted to install a ubuntu client-sever systems...with almost 65 client systems..... and i m new to the sever and i dont know what's a proxy
[02:41] <Paralyzed> from what i was told if i dont have enough knowledge i could very well wipe out windows
[02:41] <oso_polar> hello people , aboslute linux newbie here, please I request some help from you....is the Ubuntu live CD also the installation disk?
[02:41] <Psi-Jack> Okay, here's a curious poll then. What filesystems to users here commonly use?
[02:41] <Paralyzed> and i was told i need a partition so thats what i need i was told to defrag first
[02:41] <raylu> c1rcuit: uh oh. 1gb isn't really enough
[02:41] <joeb3_> oso_polar, yes
[02:41] <Paralyzed> something about 10gb would cause limitations
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Paralyzed join #windows .. it is not a ubuntu issue at this point
[02:41] <raylu> c1rcuit: try resizing sda1
[02:41] <c1rcuit> ok
[02:42] <Paralyzed> Ok, Jack_
[02:42] <bjbum> I cannot for the life of me disable Three Button Simulation with my mouse. I'm going crazy
[02:42] <oso_polar> joeb3_thanks a lot
[02:42] <vaxius> Paralyzed: defragging won't give you more than a couple MBs, and linux filesystems don't need defragging, see options in previous post
[02:42] <Paralyzed> would you be able to help me from forward on that point
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Paralyzed you bet.
[02:42] <chipsoft> Jack_Sparrowm im running Ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[02:42] <Paralyzed> Ok thanks ;]
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft you said xubuntu earlier right
[02:42] <jpastore> I'm having a problem with synaptic. it only shows installed packages when I search. I checked the filters - search tab and everyhing is checked. I even tried reinstalling synaptic with aptitude and reloading the repos. I can see uninstalled packages on first entry but if I search for let's say apache it only shows some default perl modules installed
[02:42] <c1rcuit> raylu: how would i go about resizing?
[02:42] <Paralyzed> Vaxius, my last defrag got me 20gb more.
[02:43] <chipsoft> yes, but the terminal says ubuntu >.<
[02:43] <raylu> jpastore: so use apt-get/aptitude
[02:43] <raylu> c1rcuit: right-click on the partition
[02:43] <raylu> Paralyzed: how big is the disk?
[02:43] <Paralyzed> raylu, 77GB
[02:43] <vaxius> Paralyzed: you must have gigantic hard drive and an extremely fragmented windows partition
[02:43] <raylu> Paralyzed: that's impossible
[02:43] <earthling> jpastore:  you probably need to add more repositories...
[02:43] <jpastore> raylu, that's all well and good but I would like to be able to use synaptic and understand why a nice app is broken on first install
[02:43] <Paralyzed> raylu, notsure
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft HAve you changed sources, installed programs from outside supported repos .. etc
[02:44] <c1rcuit> raylu: i am here and i see use as: format the parition: and mount point:
[02:44]  * Psi-Jack feels so ignored by everyone. :/
[02:44] <raylu> jpastore: because it's a gui :D
[02:44] <chipsoft> Uuh noo
[02:44] <jpastore> earthling, no the packages I need I see if I just scroll down, I just can't search and see packages that are not installed
[02:44] <gnutron> Psi-Jack: ext3 filesystem
[02:44] <raylu> c1rcuit: that's strange...
[02:44] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; will you be able to help me
[02:44] <Paralyzed> vaxius, is 10GB enough to get a working ubuntu properly set up on a windows operating system
[02:44] <raylu> c1rcuit: go back to terminal and "sudo umount /dev/sda5"
[02:44] <earthling> jpastore:  ic
[02:44] <jpastore> raylu well ubuntu is the only linux distro that seems to be a goo d gui...that's the point
[02:44] <chipsoft> My wallpaper has an orange car on it, but on Xubuntu its blue
[02:44] <raylu> c1rcuit: then, alt+f2, "gksu gparted"
[02:44] <Paralyzed> vaxius, windows xp
[02:45] <chipsoft> Something wrong with the color config
[02:45] <WebcamWonder> jpastore: On the left column, do you have all selected, or only all(installed) selected?
[02:45] <chipsoft> i think
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft  Run this from a terminal..   sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[02:45] <Psi-Jack> gnutron: Why did you choose to go all ext3, out of curiosity?
[02:45] <raylu> jpastore: but my point is that guis are fail :D
[02:45] <vaxius> Paralyzed: use something like gparted to resize your windows partition to make more room, and yes to your recent questio
[02:45] <vaxius> Paralyzed: *question
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> vaxius He MUST NOT resize that partition until he defrags or he could really mess things up
[02:46] <jpastore> raylu, well that just sounds like a cop out
[02:46] <gnutron> Psi-Jack: it very reliable, and used by most users.
[02:46] <c1rcuit> raylu: when i type in alt+ f2 i get a run command thing
[02:46] <vaxius> Jack_Sparrow: from his comment on how much space he gained by defragmenting, i'm guessing he's already done that to the windows partition and is thinking that the same will work with ext3
[02:47] <Paralyzed> vaxius, let me explain my situation, ok, first i went out and bought a disk, i came home and downloaded ubuntu version 8.10 the first button, i burned it onto my disk successfully (i know this from checking files), i restarted my computer and choose boot menu , after that i choose cd-r device, windows started like it normally would, but then i went to my computer and i opened the disk and it had an ubuntu icon which opened, ub
[02:47] <raylu> c1rcuit: right. in there, type gksu gparted
[02:47] <rww> You can resize ext3 partitions? How o.O?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> vaxius read back a bit farther
[02:47] <rww> defrag **
[02:47] <earthling> jpastore:  i'm sure you have already done this, but just incase, reload package installation option rebuilds the package database...
[02:47] <aschx> Can anyone help me setup Ubuntu server so I can access it by SFTP (REMOTELY)?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> rww actually you can defrag an ext3 bt it is seldom necessary
[02:47] <c1rcuit> ok
[02:47] <joeb3_> aschx, install openssh-server
[02:48] <raylu> c1rcuit: can you resize sda1 from there?
[02:48] <c1rcuit> raylu: i am here
[02:48] <c1rcuit> yea
[02:48] <c1rcuit> sure
[02:48] <aschx> joeb3: I did, and can connect to it using 127.0.0.1 but not remotely...
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> c1rcuit can you hold down on hitting that enter key a bit
[02:48] <derklempner> So I deI decided to move all my ripped MP3s from my file server to my Ubuntu machine.  Windows added a "desktop.ini" file to each album directory, and using "rm -rf desktop.ini" in the root of the folder they reside won't delete the files.  Any suggestions?
[02:48] <vaxius> Jack_Sparrow: oic
[02:48] <earthling> in the meantime, earthling still can't save files to his vfat usb memory stick.. :-(
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> vaxius np
[02:49] <rww> aschx: what's the output of "sudo ufw status"?
[02:49] <c1rcuit> raylu: what should i change the size to
[02:49] <vaxius> !dual-boot | Paralyzed
[02:49] <raylu> derklempner: find -name desktop.ini -exec rm {} \;
[02:49] <WebcamWonder> Guys, where do I throw in a script to ensure that the RTS of my card is set to 2346 on every boot. Right now, it defaults to off. I believe it was in rc.local somewhere. It has completely slipped my mind
[02:49] <c1rcuit> i have /dev/sda1 as 46.87 GiB and /dev/sda5 as 9.02 GiB
[02:49] <raylu> c1rcuit: ubuntu will need at least 3GB. how large is sda1 right now?
[02:49] <gnutron> raylu: you omitted a path.
[02:49] <aschx> joeb3: Status: not loaded
[02:49] <derklempner> What's the "{} \;" at the end for?
[02:49] <user01> is hdmi/dvi really that much better than vga?
[02:50] <rww> WebcamWonder: do you mean /etc/rc.local ?
[02:50] <c1rcuit> raylu: 46.87
[02:50] <c1rcuit> gb
[02:50] <raylu> gnutron: it defaults to the working directory
[02:50] <c1rcuit> GiB*
[02:50] <gnutron> raylu: ok ,sorry.
[02:50] <joeb3_> aschx, netstat -antp | grep 22 | grep LISTEN
[02:50] <axisys_> i want to install ubuntu on my newly purchased refurbished ibm netvista 8305.. any gotcha?
[02:50] <joeb3_> aschx, what does that show?
[02:50] <raylu> c1rcuit: i guess you could resize it to 40GB. it's up to you, of course
[02:50] <chipsoft>  Jack_sparrow : bash: cat/etc/apt/sources.list: no such file or directory
[02:50] <waldo_the_lost> hello?
[02:51] <c1rcuit> but /dev/sda5 is 9.02 GiB
[02:51] <c1rcuit> isnt that enough raylu?
[02:51] <chipsoft> and now linux says that i have to restart
[02:51] <raylu> c1rcuit: wait, what?
[02:51] <Paralyzed> how to i access BIOS settings
[02:51] <vaxius> axisys_: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:51] <WebcamWonder> rww: Yeah. But that is the script exectued on user logout. Do you know the directory in which every script is executed in the given particular order on system startup
[02:51] <DarkKnight> hey in a client-sever systems.... there is a net connection only for the server...so will the client systems be able to update through the sever
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft if you dont have a sources.list you have additional issues
[02:51] <gnutron> chipsoft: space between cat /etc/apt/sources
[02:51] <c1rcuit> it says right next to sda1 there is /dev/sda5 as 9.02 GiB
[02:51] <joeb3_> waldo_the_lost, go ahead and ask.
[02:52] <zelrikriando> chipsoft, check your typos
[02:52] <c1rcuit> did i just fail
[02:52] <c1rcuit> lol
[02:52] <axisys_> vaxius: it is a desktop
[02:52] <aschx> joeb3: tcp   0     0 0.0.0.0:22               0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN 3686/sshd
[02:52] <aschx> tcp6   0   0 :::22            :::*       LISTEN
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> c1rcuit fi  if ou add shift to the ctrl-V you can paste that command into a terminal
[02:52] <raylu> c1rcuit:  9:41:10     c1rcuit> raylu: it says the free space size is 9689 MB
[02:52] <earthling> i think the best way is to copy /etc/init.d/skeleton SXXsvc_you_need then edit it and put it where you need it in the boot process
[02:52] <scoremeformusic> can someone help me with a wireless issue? It's a nightmare connecting it, it seems to be a matter of random trial and error. For the most part it connects only when I have it cabled to the router, then it stays connected when I unplug the cable. Whenever I try to set up WPS or a wep key, it disconnects and refuses to connect until I remove the security settings. Here's all the info I can think of: I have a dynamic ip address, my router
[02:52] <raylu> c1rcuit: oh. crap
[02:53] <raylu> c1rcuit: completely my fault. for some reason, i thought that was .9gb
[02:53] <c1rcuit> oh
[02:53] <c1rcuit> lol
[02:53] <joeb3_> aschx, do you have a firewall turned on?
[02:53] <gerryxiao> hello, where can i find ubuntu handbook?
[02:53] <vaxius> !hcl | axisys_
[02:53] <aschx> joeb3: I dont think so...
[02:53] <DarkKnight> hey in a client-sever systems.... there is a net connection only for the server...so will the client systems be able to update through the sever
[02:53] <joeb3_> aschx, can you ssh to the system remotely?
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> scoremeformusic Some wifi cards will not handle encryption
[02:53] <c1rcuit> raylu: when i click new partition how much space should i give ext3
[02:54] <axisys_> vaxius: thnx
[02:54] <x_or> I want to do override an attribute setter on my model, so for example I want the Foo class to have an attribute value, and when I send { :feet => 12, :inches => 4 } to the value= method, I want to check to see if it is a hash and if so, muck with the data first and then stick it into value.
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> scoremeformusic it has to do with native drivers and the chipset
[02:54] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; will you be able to help me
[02:54] <raylu> DarkKnight: thin-client system, you mean? apt-mirror
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !training
[02:54] <raylu> c1rcuit: all the free space minus 1GB
[02:54] <scoremeformusic> jack sparrow: I've been able to connect to all other encrprypted wireless
[02:54] <raylu> c1rcuit: which you will use for swap
[02:54] <Paralyzed> Jack_Sparrow, how would i go about aaccessing BIOS section?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight I am tring to finish up a couple of issues and go to dinner.. another time perhaps
[02:54] <chipsoft> Jack_sparrow, i tryed the command again and it says pastebinit is the newest version
[02:54] <x_or> I see that when I call update_attribute inside the value= method that it seems to go into an endless stack trace, so I am probably unwittingly recursing.  What is the right way to do this?
[02:55] <DarkKnight> raylu; no...we have 65 systems in lab and 1 sever....so we are converting the whole to ubuntu...
[02:55] <Psi-Jack> Okay, ext4, I see is supported in Ubuntu 8.10, correct?
[02:55] <c1rcuit> how many megabytes are in a gigabyte?
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[02:55] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; okk thanq
[02:55] <raylu> x_or: ...what are you talking about?
[02:55] <aschx> joeb3: I can connect to it on my HOST OS: windows, using FileZilla (I am using VBox)
[02:55] <raylu> Psi-Jack: supported, but expiermental
[02:55] <raylu> (i believe)
[02:55] <Psi-Jack> Experimental eh? Hehe.
[02:55] <jsaxton86> Has anyone here reinstalled grub before? The command "find /boot/grub/stage1" isn't working for me
[02:56] <jsaxton86> I have followed the directions on this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:56] <raylu> DarkKnight: right...you want apt-mirror on the server
[02:56] <joeb3_> aschx, do you have the sftp client on the remote machine?
[02:56] <raylu> jsaxton86: i think grub-install is easier to use
[02:56]  * rebel_kid blinks
[02:57] <jsaxton86> raylu: the installer failed to install grub for some reason
[02:57] <jsaxton86> but I think I'll try that
[02:57] <jsaxton86> I'm getting frustrated
[02:57] <raylu> Jack_Sparrow: sources.list is other-readable
[02:57] <DarkKnight> raylu; the thing is that.. there is net connection only to the sever....the client systems have to use the apt-get and make updations from the sever..
[02:57] <chipsoft> jack_sparrow: http://security/ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:57] <raylu> DarkKnight: ...right...
[02:57] <raylu> DarkKnight: so use apt-mirror on the server...
[02:57] <FAJ> jsaxton86:  the last stage of the install in the livecd under advanced has a 'install grub' option.
[02:58] <aschx> joeb3: what do you mean? I have Ubuntu Server running on the same PC as Windows
[02:58] <jsaxton86> FAJ: I'll do some research and try that
[02:58] <jsaxton86> thanks
[02:58] <merawalaid> hi all
[02:58] <joeb3_> aschx, how are you testing the sftp?
[02:58] <c1rcuit> raylu: what should the mount point be for ext3?
[02:58] <DarkKnight> raylu; do you mean...just the same way we run apt-get on desktops...we have to run it the same way in the client systems
[02:58] <raylu> c1rcuit: /
[02:58] <FAJ> jsaxton86:  i dunno if you could do a somewhat grub install only from it...
[02:58] <raylu> DarkKnight: have you looked at what apt-mirror is?
[02:59] <jsaxton86> oh, I see
[02:59] <aschx> joeb3: also, I can connect to it via sftp using the 127.0.0.1 host... and port:2222 (of which I am using for sftp)
[02:59] <jsaxton86> the installer failed to install grub the first time
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft what is that link for
[02:59] <jsaxton86> which might have something to do with the way I installed Ubuntu
[02:59] <Guest49832> hey I'm using Ubuntu and want to add Kubuntu's repositories so that I can install amarok 2.0. Where can I find Kubuntu's repositories?
[02:59] <jsaxton86> but that's an entirely different story
[02:59] <DarkKnight> raylu; no i have no idea about it...
[02:59] <chipsoft> u said provide pastebinit link in channel
[02:59] <raylu> DarkKnight: well...go read up on it first before telling me it won't work =\
[02:59] <chipsoft> Well, the terminal gave me that
[02:59] <raylu> Guest49832: amarok isn't in the "kubuntu repositories
[02:59] <x_or> raylu:  Sorry, I thought I was in another channel, my apologies.
[03:00] <axisys_> how do I find out if I should install 64bit or 32bit on IBM netvista ?
[03:00] <raylu> x_or: i figured :D
[03:00] <c1rcuit> raylu: what about for the swap? (mount point)
[03:00] <joeb3_> axisys, what type of processor?
[03:00] <DarkKnight> raylu; okk i'll have a look
[03:00] <raylu> c1rcuit: er...swap shouldn't have a mount point. is "swap" also an option for mount point?
[03:00] <onetinsoldier> keres: still here?
[03:00] <c1rcuit> no
[03:00] <c1rcuit> lol
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> chipsoft no.. it shold have given you a number after a pastebin site...   I am afraid I will not be able to help you with this..
[03:00] <Guest49832> raylu: but amarok has dependencies that are in kubuntu's repositories
[03:00] <chipsoft> ok
[03:01] <chipsoft> but thx for the help
[03:01] <chipsoft> Bye
[03:01] <raylu> Guest49832: no, qt and other stuff are in the ubuntu repositories. just try installing it
[03:01] <carpii> i just found a nice mediaplayer called songbird, its based on firefox but works really well
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !info amarok
[03:02] <carpii> well, mediaplayer as in an alternative to amarok
[03:02] <axisys_> joeb3_: hmm let me check
[03:02] <srothroc> I used the bootable disk utility to put the Ubuntu eee image on a SD card; popped the SD card in the drive of my eee PC and checked boot order to make sure that removable disk was first -- it's not booting from the card. Any ideas?
[03:02] <carpii> http://getsongbird.com/
[03:02] <Anacranom> chipsoft, type the person's nic that u are talking to, so they can keep up in this busy channel, just type the first few letters of their nick and hit "tab" till it completes their nick..
[03:02] <Guest49832> raylu: you tell me how I'm supposed to install amarok 2 then. Here's the page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[03:02] <c1rcuit> raylu: should the swap's device have turned into /dev/sda6
[03:02] <raylu> Guest49832: sudo aptitude install amarok
[03:02] <c1rcuit> ??
[03:02] <merawalaid> Hi I am using Ubuntu 8.10, i can't get sound working on my laptop
[03:02] <raylu> c1rcuit: um...what is it now?
[03:02] <aschx> joeb3: I am using an SFTP client to connect to Ubuntu before... I just cannot connect to the SFTP server using my Worldwide IP
[03:02] <Guest49832> raylu: already installed. But when I run amarok it brings up amarok 1.4
[03:02] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[03:02] <raylu> !sound | merawalaid
[03:02] <axisys_> joeb3_: pentium 4 2.66ghz intel chip
[03:02] <axisys_> joeb3_: ibm netvista 8305
[03:03] <merawalaid> thanks will try that
[03:03] <joeb3_> axisys, either will work.  Try 64
[03:03] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, i'm still trying... i do know of a dirty way of doing it. but i was trying to do it properly
[03:03] <raylu> Guest49832: wait...that page has instructions for how to do it...
[03:03] <joeb3_> axisys, what is your "global" ip?
[03:03] <Guest49832> raylu: exactly! but the package they mention isn't there...
[03:03] <claudio> guys u speack italian?
[03:03] <zsquareplusc> joeb3_: 64 bit for pentium 4? i dont think so
[03:03] <keres> onetinsoldier: which would be easier?
[03:03] <Kelen> How to review my messages with IRC during i go out away and come back?
[03:03] <raylu> Guest49832: what package?
[03:03] <claudio> i need help please
[03:03] <axisys_> joeb3_: cool!
[03:03] <Guest49832> raylu: "amarok-kde4"
[03:03] <raylu> Kelen: that depend son your client
[03:03] <eseven73> !it | claudio
[03:04] <raylu> Guest49832: sudo aptitude update
[03:04] <axisys_> joeb3_: the box is no up yet.
[03:04] <aschx> joeb3: I am using an SFTP client to connect to Ubuntu before... I just cannot connect to the SFTP server using my Worldwide IP
[03:04] <claudio> ok grazie mille
[03:04] <Kelen> raylu: irssi for me right now..
[03:04] <c1rcuit> raylu: http://s440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/c1rcuit123/?action=view&current=stuff.jpg
[03:04] <Schuenemann> "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,4)". Anyone?
[03:04] <ghost3> hey. needing help with a t-mobile  Motorola W490. when I connect it to usb it sees it as a usb storage device and not a connection to broadband. can anyone help me out? thanks.
[03:04] <joeb3_> axisys, zsquare says use 32 bit.  64 won't work.
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> keres: well, at this point the dirty way, although it's not that dirty
[03:04] <c1rcuit> wait sorry raylu
[03:04] <keres> onetinsoldier: let's go
[03:04] <keres> :)
[03:04] <axisys_> joeb3_: hmm.. ok
[03:04] <raylu> Kelen: awaylog
[03:04] <c1rcuit> raylu: http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq122/c1rcuit123/Screenshotnes.png
[03:05] <Kelen> raylu: what's your client?
[03:05] <Susie> zsquareplusc: I am back from earlier. Do you have any more advice for me? I have found some drivers on the Intel website, but I don't know if they support Ubuntu, and I don't know if they will fix my problem...
[03:05] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, there my be a little trial and error here too
[03:05] <Roasted> I know this aint much of an ubuntu question but anybody know a way to "spruce up" an lcd monitor to look brighter? (besides the typical brightness/contrast controls)
[03:05] <raylu> Kelen: irssi :D
[03:05] <merawalaid> uh, ubottu:"then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer)." will that be in System>preferance>sound ?
[03:05] <keres> ok
[03:05] <gnutron> Kelen: try  /lastlog kelen
[03:05] <Guest49832> raylu: synaptic says the latest version is the same as the installed version.
[03:05] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> Would it be possible to have a hidden truecrypted(Or something similar) operating system alongside a WinXP/Ubuntu dual boot? A quick look on Truecrypts website says it uses it's own bootloader(And I don't know anything about bootloaders)
[03:05] <Kelen> raylu: /lastlog Kelen
[03:05] <zsquareplusc> Susie: i don't know. maybe ask the channel again. there are other people now :-)
[03:05] <raylu> c1rcuit: sda6 is fine. don't worry about how it chooses to number
[03:05] <Kelen> this?
[03:05] <joeb3_> aschx, and your ip is???
[03:06] <Susie> zsquareplusc: Okay. Thanks. I will see if anyone else has ideas. :)
[03:06] <raylu> Kelen: but without the "raylu: "
[03:06] <c1rcuit> raylu: ok, should i now selsect sda5 and continue
[03:06] <raylu> c1rcuit: i think you need to set the mountpoint of sda6 to swap, though
[03:06] <eseven73> '/lastlog' command is EVERY reason to install irssi and drop xchat like a bad habit :)
[03:06] <tonybaloney867> random question: How do I have more than four keyboard layouts using that little keyboard layout applet that Ubuntu uses?
[03:06] <Kelen> raylu: sure.. got it.. thank you advance..
[03:06] <c1rcuit> it wont let me raylu
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> keres: export LDFLAGS="-l LIBS_GL=/usr/include/GL"
[03:06] <raylu> c1rcuit: oh, then don't worry about it. just continue
[03:06] <c1rcuit> ok
[03:06] <tonybaloney867> Could I conceivably use SCIM instead to change layouts (as opposed to IMEs)
[03:07] <c1rcuit> raylu: ok, should i now selsect sda5 and continue
[03:07] <keres> onetinsoldier: 2 double quotes on the end?
[03:07] <aschx> joeb3: my ip is 71.199.250.107 use port 222 to connect
[03:07] <zsquareplusc> Brian8MEJ0mnt: the ubuntu alternate install cd supports installing to encrypted partitions. not sure if they are hidden though
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> keres: yes
[03:07] <raylu> c1rcuit: yep
[03:07] <c1rcuit> ok
[03:07] <c1rcuit> thanks so much :D
[03:07] <Ximal> hey guys... i can't get to the off topic channel so i need to ask in here... I can't get my printer to work to print out pdf's . Does ubuntu offer any type of pdf conversion to printable text file ? like when you click on a site's printable version button ? or at least a pdf reader that will communicate right with my printer ...
[03:07] <raylu> c1rcuit: well, "selecting" it doesn't mean you'll install to there. the fact that it's / means that it will install there
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> keres: two? no..! sorry
[03:07] <jpastore> so I have my old hdd converted to an external drive. can I just migrate what's on that to my new install and just set everything back the way it was? can I do an rsyc (or similar) from teh external to / ?
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> keres: export LDFLAGS="-l LIBS_GL=/usr/include/GL"
[03:07] <c1rcuit> ok
[03:07] <srothroc> I just booted Ubuntu eee; right now I'm in BusyBox with an initramfs prompt. What should I do?
[03:07] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> zsquareplusc, alright, thanks, I'll check into that
[03:07] <Susie> I am trying to clone my desktop to my TV using an S-video cable, but I get absolutely no output to the TV. I have tried several various things, mostly involving editing my xorg.conf and all I got was a staticy computer screen and a still lifeless TV.  I am using an Intel  driver so I am having trouble finding support. Can anyone help me?
[03:07] <joeb3_> aschx, are you directly connected with no router?
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> keres: that has one set of double quotes on the end...
[03:08] <raylu> Ximal: if you can't print a pdf, it's unlikely you'll be able to print anything else
[03:08] <keres> onetinsoldier: what do type for the ' > ' dialog?
[03:08] <dmulholland> srothroc, there was something wrong with your grub boot menu
[03:08] <c1rcuit> raylu: thanks so much for helping a noob like me. u make this community a very nice place to be in. i cannot thank u enough for spending so much time on me
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !eee
[03:08] <aschx> joeb3: no, I have a router... oops, should I forward port 222?
[03:08] <raylu> c1rcuit: np
[03:08] <srothroc> dmulholland: What does that mean?
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> keres: just press enter and try again...        export LDFLAGS="-l LIBS_GL=/usr/include/GL"
[03:08] <Schuenemann> hey, I need help here. Tried to boot and: "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(8,4)".
[03:08] <dmulholland> srothroc, what have you done to get this far?
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !eee > srothroc
[03:08] <joeb3_> aschx, yep
[03:09] <aschx> joeb3: okay, I'll see if that helps ;)
[03:09] <keres> onetinman: then?
[03:09] <srothroc> dmulholland: Got the Ubuntu EEE distro, used the USB disk utility to put it on a SD card, set the SD card reader to the top of the boot list, booted from it, selected "Install Ubuntu".
[03:09] <joebee> This may sound silly but I thought I'd check prior to just bruteforcing it. I have a drive in my box thats failed and I need to remove it, but I don't know which (physically) it is.
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok...    sudo mkdir /usr/include/glib
[03:10] <joebee> Is there any way to help me pick which it is?
[03:10] <dudus> srothroc: something probably went bad with your setup. I'd recomend you install the standard ubuntu distribution inbstead of ubuntu eeepc edition
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: cp -v /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gutils.h /usr/include/glib
[03:10] <keres> onetinsoldier: then?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> srothroc eee has their own help..  sort of like mint
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[03:10] <raylu> Schuenemann: could you show us the messages before that?
[03:10] <srothroc> orz
[03:10] <raylu> Schuenemann: also, do you have an initrd/initramfs file in /boot?
[03:10] <srothroc> The Ubuntu EEE page says to come here for help.
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> keres: done? try make
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> srothroc they are wrong
[03:11] <aschx> joeb3: Okay, that worked, thanks! ~aschx
[03:11] <joeb3_> joebee, unplug one and reboot. If you boot ok, that's it.
[03:11] <joebee> joeb3_: There's 6 of em :(
[03:11] <Schuenemann> raylu, uh... I don't know. It's a dual boot (slackware/ubuntu) using lilo
[03:11] <Ximal> raylu: i can print normAL text.. just pdf's come out wrong... like 100x the normal font size..
[03:11] <Guest49832> raylu: I got it to install, yay! It wasn't in synaptic but doing "apt-get install amarok-kde4" did the trick
[03:11] <raylu> Ximal: try pdf2ps
[03:11] <keres> onetinsoldier: i put sudo in front of it
[03:12] <keres> the output: `/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gutils.h' -> `/usr/include/glib/gutils.h'
[03:12] <joebee> joeb3_: And it's a headless box. Is there any way to tell Ubuntu to physically turn off the drive?
[03:12] <raylu> Guest49832: congrats
[03:12] <raylu> Guest49832: but, imo, amarok2 is kinda bleh :P
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: in front of the make command?
[03:12] <joeb3_> joebee, not that I know of.
[03:12] <joebee> joeb3_: Then I could just check and see which one isnt running..
[03:12] <keres> no, in front of the other one
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh.. nvm.. you meant the cp -v command
[03:12] <DarkKnight> raylu; just googled it out...didnt get much info...i came upon something called landscapes and stuff
[03:12] <dudus> srothroc: the busy box prompt means that ubuntu failled to load. It may happen also on ubuntu distro, but as it happened in eee edition we can't tell what went wrong.
[03:12] <raylu> joebee: the drive should turn itself off after a while with no access
[03:13] <joebee> raylu: Okay, Ill check. Thanks.
[03:13] <Schuenemann> raylu, I don't have any directory in /boot
[03:13] <raylu> DarkKnight: the first result for apt-mirror is http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
[03:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m60ff6866
[03:13] <dmulholland> srothroc, which eeepc do you have?
[03:13] <Guest49832> raylu: heh, I'll soon see what you mean. Hopefully I'll like it
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: if you get an error when trying make now, just copy and paste the single line that has the error in here
[03:13] <raylu> Schuenemann: yeah, sorry. i assumed you were using grub
[03:13] <keres> onetinsoldier: that is the whole output, was it successful?
[03:13] <Ximal> !pdf2ps > Ximal
[03:13] <Ximal> raylu: i can't find it in synaptics
[03:13] <Schuenemann> raylu, it complained about my "root=", there's probably something wrong in lilo.conf
[03:13] <onetinsoldier> keres: i'm pretty sure it was
[03:14] <dmulholland> Ximal, it pdftops i think
[03:14] <raylu> Ximal: er, try just typing "pdf2ps" in a terminal
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: you might want to use a util called    checkinstall to actually install it
[03:14] <joebee> raylu: No, they all feel like theyre running
[03:14] <raylu> Schuenemann: sorry, i have no experience with lilo
[03:14] <Ximal> ahh it's already on
[03:14] <dmulholland> raylu, the program is pdftops, not numeric 2
[03:14] <joebee> If only they had little LEDs that you could set...
[03:14] <Ximal> te system..
[03:14] <onetinsoldier> keres: but if you don't use checkinstall, then it's just    make install
[03:15] <raylu> fiv:~$ pdf2ps --help
[03:15] <raylu> Usage: pdf2ps [-dASCII85EncodePages=false] [-dLanguageLevel=1|2|3] input.pdf [output.ps]
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> keres: as root!
[03:15] <DarkKnight> raylu; so we have to just install apt-mirror..thats all??
[03:15] <Susie> I am trying to clone my desktop to my TV using an S-video cable, but I get absolutely no output to the TV. I have tried several various things, mostly involving editing my xorg.conf and all I got was a staticy computer screen and a still lifeless TV.  I am using an Intel  driver so I am having trouble finding support. Can anyone help me?
[03:15] <raylu> DarkKnight: well, then you have to go through the pain of configuring everything :D
[03:15] <DarkKnight> raylu; so wat other configurtions are required??
[03:16] <tritium> !tv-out | Susie
[03:16] <raylu> DarkKnight: um... you're the sysadmin, not me :D
[03:16] <Susie> ubottu: I am using an Intel card. =/
[03:17] <tritium> Susie: then I suggest you look over http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html
[03:17] <DarkKnight> raylu; i mean for making updations available to the client systems...will only these help??
[03:17] <computer_> how do i get my blackberry 8310 phone to work with ubuntu?
[03:18] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m1e190e9b
[03:18] <keres> that's with sudo make install
[03:18] <raylu> DarkKnight: yes
[03:18] <MrCollins> heh
[03:18] <raylu> Susie: ubottu is a bot
[03:18] <DarkKnight> raylu; thanq....a great relief.......
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> keres: go into the dir and type   make clean
[03:19] <Meshezabeel> ubottu, are you intelligent?
[03:19] <raylu> DarkKnight: to be honest, i don't think you're qualified to set up 65 computers
[03:19] <raylu> Meshezabeel: it's...a...bot...
[03:19] <centr0> was there a 64bit ver of 8.04?
[03:19] <onetinsoldier> keres: you don't need to show me the output of   make clean
[03:19] <Susie> raylu: Oh. Okay then. (This is only my second time using IRC). Thank you for telling me that so I can stop looking like an idiot...
[03:19] <zsquareplusc> centr0: yes, sure
[03:19] <keres> onetinsoldier: no errors, but should i do install now?
[03:20] <kc8pxy> i'm trying to get a thinkpad T22 to work with 8.10 xubuntu. there seems do be a well documented issue with the savage driver ubuntu detects, and the best solution appears to be forcing use of the vesa xorg driver. my attempts to edit the xorg.conf to do this have failed.   how should i fix it?
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: no... there's nothing to install now that you did the make clean anyway
[03:20] <Meshezabeel> raylu, no he's only pretending to be a bot ;)
[03:20] <centr0> is there a way to check which one i got?  cant remember. and having some trouble installing an IDE.
[03:20] <raylu> Meshezabeel: and typing really really fast :D
[03:20] <keres> onetinsoldier: now what?
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: let's try the GL environment variable again...
[03:20] <DarkKnight> raylu; ya that's right....i m doing it for my college...and there's no one who's handy with linux in our campus...we do have windows system admin...but no linux....i made it a initiative to install linux in one of our labs completely
[03:20] <Meshezabeel> raylu: indeed :)
[03:20] <Meshezabeel> bionic implants
[03:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: export LDFLAGS="-l GL=/usr/include/GL"
[03:21] <kc8pxy> DarkKnight:  way to go!
[03:21] <keres> onetinsoldier: then?
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> keres:   make
[03:21] <DarkKnight> kc8pxy; ??
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> keres: then...  make install
[03:21] <centr0> is there any way to check if i have a 32bit/64bit ver of 8.04?
[03:21] <raylu> centr0: "uname -m" might be what you want
[03:21] <joeb3_> centr0, lsb_release -a
[03:21] <tritium> raylu: not qualified?  It's not difficult.  Please don't insult others in the channel.
[03:22] <raylu> endemic: or lsb_release -a
[03:22] <raylu> tritium: he can't use google and he's setting up 65 macines
[03:22] <kc8pxy> DarkKnight:  for forging ahead with a linux-only lab:)
[03:22] <raylu> tritium: *machines. i didn't mean it in an insulting way
[03:22] <tritium> raylu: mind the code of conduct, please
[03:22] <DarkKnight> raylu, kc8pxy; i will make available our talk available on http://ossarchives.blogspot.com     i do that always...
[03:22] <centr0> damn..  i did get 64 bit.  ugh.  'x86_64'  :(
[03:23] <centr0> no wonder aptana was giving me trouble
[03:23] <DarkKnight> kc8pxy; ya...thanq...
[03:23]  * centr0 bangs his head on desk.
[03:23] <ray_> I am new to Ubuntu, just loaded it 3 days ago
[03:23] <keres> onetinsoldier: the last few lines are the same as before
[03:23] <kc8pxy> ray_:  welcome!
[03:23] <Anacranom> ray_, good for you! welcome
[03:23] <ray_> thanks
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. hang on
[03:24] <keres> onetinman: which version of ubuntu are you running on?
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> 8.10
[03:24] <keres> ok
[03:24] <ray_> I am having some issues getting everything to work right now, but impressed with it so far
[03:24] <DarkKnight> raylu, kc8pxy; the updation to my blog will be made available in a few hours..
[03:24] <tritium> wii DarkKnight
[03:24] <Anacranom> ray_, what version? 8.04 or 8.10?
[03:25] <ray_> trying to find good places to find out info on using Ubuntu
[03:25] <DarkKnight> tritium; ??
[03:25] <tritium> DarkKnight: nothing...
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: let's meake sure you have the actual library installed...   dpkg -l '*mesa*' | grep '^ii'
[03:25] <ray_> I believe its 8.10
[03:26] <Anacranom> ray_, ok, what is not working>?
[03:26] <tritium> ray_: lsb_release -a, and you'll find out for sure
[03:26] <keres> onetinsoldier: that has output
[03:26] <keres> no errors or anything
[03:26] <matsya> i thank team Ubuntu for such a great and simple OS, keep up the good work
[03:26] <ray_> well, can't get Wine to work
[03:26] <ray_> it seems when I try to use it, it logs me out
[03:26] <Anacranom> ray_,  type the person's nic that u are talking to, so they can keep up in this busy channel, just type the first few letters of their nick and hit "tab" till it completes their nick..
[03:26] <kc8pxy> ray_:  what app?
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. do have these installed?   libgl1-mesa-dri  libgl1-mesa-glx  libglu1-mesa  mesa-common-dev  mesa-utils
[03:27] <Susie> I am trying to clone my desktop to my TV using an S-video cable, but I get absolutely no output to the TV. I have tried several various things, mostly involving editing my xorg.conf and all I got was a staticy computer screen and a still lifeless TV.  I am using an Intel  driver so I am having trouble finding support. Can anyone help me?
[03:27] <ray_> well, just when I try to open it to configure it or open anything with Wine
[03:27] <Gnea> ray_: http://help.ubuntu.com is a good place to start
[03:27] <tritium> Susie: I pointed you to the intel driver website.
[03:27] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> Is there an ubuntu/windows compatible equivalent to truecrypt? Just something I can use to encrypt/hide a partition, then be able to open it again on either WinXP or Ubuntu
[03:27] <raylu> onetinsoldier: if he's compiling, anything that doesn't end in -dev is likely not useful
[03:27] <kc8pxy> ray_:  weird
[03:27] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok.. but what about when trying to run it?
[03:27] <rww> Brian8MEJ0mnt: you can install truecrypt in Ubuntu ;)
[03:27] <tritium> Susie (again): http://intellinuxgraphics.org/index.html
[03:27] <ray_> also can't get one of my HP printers to work with it eiether
[03:27] <veloc1ty> Brian8MEJ0mnt, you can use truecrypt
[03:28] <raylu> onetinsoldier: has he gotten it to compile yet?
[03:28] <keres> onetinsoldier: i have all of those
[03:28] <raylu> onetinsoldier: if he can compile, i'm sure he can run
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> raylu: yes
[03:28] <Meshezabeel> ray_, wine logs you out of ubuntu?
[03:28] <raylu> onetinsoldier: :o oh.
[03:28] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> Ah, my bad :) The supported systems are all Windows, I assumed it was Windows only
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> raylu: but i may have done the GL environment variable wrong
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> raylu: http://pastebin.com/m1e190e9b
[03:28] <ray_> now I have Ubuntu loaded through windows
[03:29] <Susie> tritium: Thanks but I've already looked at that site and it doesn't help me.
[03:29] <ray_> and downloaded wine, and it seemed to load fine and is on the launch menu
[03:29] <alex_21> I used apt-get source for apt-get source libwebkit-1.0-1"  and it returned an unable to find source package error
[03:30] <alex_21> I used apt-get source for apt-get source libwebkit-1.0-1"  and it returned an unable to find source package error. What can I do?
[03:30] <keres> OH
[03:30] <Anacranom> ray_, are you using "wubi"?
[03:30] <muse> hello.. i'm trying to follow the steps listed here: http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo .. however, i get stuck trying to turn off my adapters..
[03:30] <onetinsoldier> keres: what's up?
[03:30] <Ziggat> should i use fedora or ubuntu
[03:30] <keres> i was in the wrong directory
[03:30] <ray_> Anacranom -- is that a version of Wine
[03:30] <Ziggat> ive been trying to decide for hours
[03:30] <Meshezabeel> meshe: ray_, why are you using wine through ubuntu through windows? If you are using windows, why not just run the app there?
[03:30] <keres> Ziggat: ubuntu, no contest
[03:30] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> Ziggat, well, of course, we're all gonna recomend Ubuntu ;)
[03:30] <Gnea> Susie: is that an i915?
[03:31] <Ziggat> LOL meshe
[03:31] <jioek> Hi guys, i can get my sound working in ubuntu, but it won't work in openbox
[03:31] <Meshezabeel> ray_: wubi is the default way for running ubuntu from within windows
[03:31] <Anacranom> ray_, no, thats ubuntu installed within windows
[03:31] <tritium> Susie: did you read any of the documentation provided on that site?
[03:31] <jioek> gnome*
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> raylu: did you take a look at that pastebin?
[03:31] <ray_> well I wanted to see if I can run applications just using Ubuntu cause I have Ubuntu on a laptop as the only OS
[03:31] <muse> anyone?
[03:31] <raylu> onetinsoldier: yes
[03:31] <Ziggat> sorry, but running wine through ubuntu, which is running on windows is pretty much the dumbest thing ive ever heard of
[03:31] <randomwalker> how do i find the mime type of a file from the command line?
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger... any ideas?
[03:31] <raylu> onetinsoldier: did keres try autoreconf yet?
[03:31] <Anacranom> ty Meshezabeel
[03:32] <alex_21> I used apt-get source for apt-get source libwebkit-1.0-1"  and it returned an unable to find source package error. What can I do?
[03:32] <keres> autoreconf: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[03:32] <Gnea> tritium: i looked at that site too and didn't find anything related to getting the s-video to work in linux.
[03:32] <Susie> Gnea: I really don't know? It is an 855GM chipset...
[03:32] <Gnea> Susie: ah, okay
[03:32] <Meshezabeel> Anacranom: np ;)
[03:32] <ray_> So if I have Ubuntu installed through Windows Wine is not going to work
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> raylu: yes.. it had requirements... such and  configure.in and another file. which are not in the source
[03:32] <alex_21> It will work fine, wine
[03:32] <computer_> can i upgrade to linux mint with ubuntu?
[03:32] <Susie> tritium: Yes, I did. It appears to support my graphics card, but the download instructions ask you to use git and warn you that the compiling process is complicated...
[03:32] <randal> How do you install compizfussion plz help
[03:33] <Brian8MEJ0mnt> Bit of an unrelated-to-ubuntu question before I go decide how big to make partitions... Does anyone know if BackTrack is installable, or liveCD only? Looks like it could be fun to fiddle with for a little bit :)
[03:33] <tritium> Susie: no, you don't need to download anything.  Just read the docs so you know what to configure.
[03:33] <Meshezabeel> ray_, it should still work, but what is it logging you out of? Is it completely closing down Ubuntu, but leaves you in windows?
[03:33] <Anacranom> ray_, i would ask in #winehq, but i have no issues with wine
[03:33] <randal> How do you install compizfussion plz help
[03:33] <merawalaid> ubottu , you there ?
[03:33] <raylu> keres: autoreconf -i
[03:33] <tritium> computer_: that's no upgrade.  That's changing distros.
[03:33] <keres> raylu: same
[03:33] <tritium> merawalaid: ubottu is a bot
[03:33] <ray_> it just brings me back to the Ubuntu log screen
[03:33] <merawalaid> oooh
[03:33] <Anacranom> ray_, are you running ubuntu in VM?
[03:33] <merawalaid> hehe :)
[03:33] <ray_> it just logs my user out
[03:33] <uman_> Anyone know how to connect to an L2TP over IPSEC vpn in ubuntu 8.10? Thanks
[03:33] <Susie> tritium: Oh. Okay I didn't see these PDFs at the top earlier...let me look at them...
[03:34] <randal> How do you install compizfussion plz help
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> raylu: interesting.. i run autoreconf on it and i get nothing back. just returns to the command line
[03:34] <ray_> No I installed it through windows on one machine and it is running on the laptop as the sole OS
[03:34] <merawalaid> i am facing problems getting sound to play on my laptop
[03:34] <raylu> keres: autoreconf -if
[03:34] <gnutron> !compiz > randal
[03:34] <randal> how do you move to compiz fussion channel or can you tell me how to install compiz
[03:34] <tritium> Susie: "man intel" has some info on seting the TV OUT format
[03:34] <raylu> onetinsoldier: do you have a configure now?
[03:34] <aleka> I am trying to change the name on an NTFS drive that is mounted on my Ubuntu from 80GB Drive to something else... but I get an error about the backend not being able to perform that action. I tried opening nautulis as root. But Nautulis is not able to open up localtion "Computer" when run as root...how can I achieve this?
[03:34] <keres> raylu: same output
[03:34] <kc8pxy> how do i FORCE ubuntu to change the xorg video driver it is to use?
[03:34] <randal> !compiz
[03:35] <raylu> keres: that's...strange
[03:35] <Anacranom> ray_, do you have same issue on laptop ?
[03:35] <ray_> I have used Wine before with Knoppix Linux and it worked
[03:35] <Susie> tritium: I will check that out too. Thanks...
[03:35] <raylu> keres: perhaps you should try opening a new terminal and starting with new source
[03:35] <Gnea> Susie: this seems to have a plethora of information related to s-video: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=361124
[03:35] <ray_> have not put Wine on laptop yet
[03:35] <randal> how do i mive to !compiz
[03:35] <Gnea> Susie: might go good with that
[03:35] <randal> !compiz
[03:35] <AceStar> May i know if someone can help me in malay language ?
[03:35] <keres> raylu: download it from the svn again?
[03:35] <alex_21> I used apt-get source for apt-get source libwebkit-1.0-1"  and it returned an unable to find source package error. What can I do?
[03:36] <eseven73> randal:  /join #compiz-fusion
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> raylu: autoreconf2.50: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[03:36] <raylu> keres: svn revert
[03:36] <merawalaid> i went through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound  still no joy
[03:36] <tritium> alex_21: you didn't use the package name
[03:36] <raylu> onetinsoldier: wait, what?
[03:36] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i thought you said you had no output?
[03:36] <keres> raylu: not enough arguments provided
[03:36] <Meshezabeel> ray_, so at what point does wine log you out?
[03:36] <raylu> keres: svn revert .
[03:36] <Paralyzed> I need help figuring out why ubuntu disk wont work on when i boot it on disk :|
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> raylu:    sudo autoreconf -if   -->   autoreconf2.50: `configure.ac' or `configure.in' is required
[03:36] <keres> raylu: ok
[03:37] <raylu> onetinsoldier: woah... no need to sudo :P
[03:37] <Meshezabeel> ray_ everytime you run wine?
[03:37] <ray_> when I try and configure it, or when I click on open application with Wine
[03:37] <kc8pxy> am i to assume, since noone is answering, that you all let ubuntu decide what driver to use, with no interference?
[03:37] <Susie> Gnea: I have seen that how-to and tried it out. It didn't work for me, but I might read through the thread and see if my issue was addressed. Thanks.
[03:37] <keres> onetinman: svn revert,
[03:37] <tritium> kc8pxy: drivers for what?
[03:37] <ray_> yes, it just closed out the user, and I am back at the Ubuntu login screen
[03:37] <alex_21> I used apt-get source for apt-get source libwebkit-1.0-1"  and it returned an unable to find source package error. What is the package name?
[03:37] <Susie> tritium: the "man intel" is Greek to me
[03:37] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[03:38] <aleka> How can I troubleshoot being unable to mount (or even see with fdisk -l) an external USB drive? No error messages in dmesg
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i am in the following dir...  /usr/local/src/netradiant   my regualr user cannot write to that dir. and i'm not going to add him to the 'staff' group
[03:38] <Cpudan80> I'm having trouble mounting a smb share
[03:38] <Cpudan80> I have smbfs and cifs installed
[03:38] <tritium> Susie: that's a command you can type
[03:38] <raylu> onetinsoldier: m...you couldn't have checked it out to somewhere else?
[03:38] <raylu> keres: where is this code?
[03:38] <Meshezabeel> ray_, do you have the correct video driver?
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> raylu: yes, i could have, indeed
[03:38] <Cpudan80> The command I used is //server      cifs    auto,           credentials=/root/.credentials,uid=Cpudan80,user  0       0
[03:39] <tritium> Cpudan80: that's not a command
[03:39] <Cpudan80> but it says that I didn't include a username or something?
[03:39] <raylu> Cpudan80: uid, not user
[03:39] <Cpudan80> tritium: ok well the line from fstab I should say
[03:39] <kc8pxy> tritium:  xorg.   it seems that my xubuntu 8.10 install detects savage,  but there is a long history of issues(which I'm having) with ubuntu and that driver, with this laptop. i want to force it to use vesa, which will be good enough. how do i do that?
[03:39] <tritium> Cpudan80: that looks like an entry for /etc/fstab
[03:39] <Susie> tritium: I know that. I typed it in and I didn't understand the man file
[03:39] <keres> raylu: http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/
[03:39] <Meshezabeel> ray_ please don't message privately without asking
[03:39] <tritium> kc8pxy: add a line to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use that driver
[03:40] <ray_> ok sorry
[03:40] <keres> raylu: would it probably work out of the box with 8.4?
[03:40] <kc8pxy> tritium:  done that, in the device section. no change.
[03:40] <Cpudan80> raylu: it still comes back with no username specified
[03:40] <onetinsoldier> raylu: http://www.icculus.org/netradiant/#What is NetRadiant?
[03:40] <Meshezabeel> ray_ you might need to enable a video driver, such as an nvidia restricted driver, if you are using nvidia
[03:40] <tritium> Susie: you'd need to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf similar to this: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA#TV-Out
[03:40] <raylu> Cpudan80: er...did you put your uid in?
[03:40] <DIL> Cpudan80: > //computer/shareddrive	/media/shareddrive cifs user,uid=####,iocharset=utf8,codepage=unicode,unicode	0	0
[03:40] <raylu> keres: no idea
[03:40] <Ziggat> What is ubuntu private v1.0? is it a modified ubuntu? its on www.ziggat.com
[03:40] <tritium> kc8pxy: and you restarted X?
[03:40] <Cpudan80> DIL: yes thats what it says
[03:41] <Cpudan80> DIL: looks like the mount point got cut off when I pasted it -- but that's what I've got
[03:41] <DIL> Cpudan80: mount -a
[03:41] <Cpudan80> DIL: wait ... do you not do cifs auto, credentials=file anymore?
[03:41] <Susie> tritium: I suppose I can try that. Is there any other way to see the changes made to my xorg.conf besides rebooting my  computer? That gets tedious after a while.
[03:41] <ray_> I know there are some other issues I have had, like when I tried to use the best graphic setting it messed up my video whee I had to reinstall the whole thing again
[03:42] <Cpudan80> DIL: comes back no username specified in dmesg | tail
[03:42] <AceStar> hi, anyone know how to take screenshot during installation of ubuntu distro ? thanks
[03:42] <tritium> Susie: of course there is.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, for one.
[03:42] <raylu> AceStar: alt+f2, gnome-screenshot
[03:42] <kc8pxy> tritium: rebooted the whole system./
[03:42] <kc8pxy> tritium: it's weird though
[03:43] <tritium> kc8pxy: then you should inspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and find out why it's ignoring your config line
[03:43] <Susie> tritium: Well, I'll try that, but I may have to restart my computer anyway. From experience, this kind of thing does wonky stuff to my computer and no amount of Ctrl + Alt + F7 can get me back without restarting...
[03:43] <kc8pxy> tritium:  it seems it's using my config, and using savage anyway.
[03:44] <srothroc> Is there a way to select the proper keyboard layout for an eee pc 701 in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <ray_> I was impressed with Ubuntu, in that it let you run it through the CD to try it out, without having to install it on the computer, like Knoppix, and it game other opinions as well, but there is a lot of things that have to be tweaked to get it to work
[03:44] <AceStar> raylu: thanks
[03:44] <AceStar> raylu: will try that
[03:44] <tritium> ray_: depends on your hardware
[03:44] <digitalnorm> i have a cunundrum.  i just began using ubuntu from xp. ubuntu made new partitions for itself from free space and the two hudred gig of photos and tele and music etc that was the only thing on my sata hard drive called "media" became a folder in "places" called "media" and it stilll contained all my stuff.  then i imported the whole contents of "media\music" into rhythmbox and now the music folder is empty (although still the location
[03:44] <digitalnorm> in properties of songs in r.b.) and i cannot find my music any where except in rhythmbox.  the properties of the "media" folder say it is still 200 gig large, BUT, when i add up the size of all of the folders, it is 70 gig short of that, the same 70 gig of music that is missing.  my music is invisible and it is freaking me out.  i know it is still there because i can play it in r.b but i nor a search engine can find it in an explorer
[03:44] <digitalnorm> window.  please help.  sorry for length
[03:44] <FloodBot1> digitalnorm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <eseven73> is that a question or a bible?
[03:45] <Cpudan80> DIL: ok well I got it to do something else now --- now it just says IO error 5 when I do mount
[03:45] <ray_> yea, I am aware of that, and was impressed that most everything worked on both computers
[03:45] <Cpudan80> ideas?
[03:45] <Meshezabeel> ray_, it could be a problem with your video driver then
[03:45] <Susie> tritium: One last question before I try it. When it says   Section "Device"
[03:45] <Susie>          ...
[03:45] <Susie>          Option      "Monitor-TV"   "TV"
[03:45] <Susie>          ...
[03:45] <Susie>  EndSection
[03:45] <FloodBot1> Susie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <ray_> but its not Windows, I can't get HP printer to run, some applications like the media viewer crashes when I go full screen
[03:46] <tritium> Susie: you know better than to paste that much text here
[03:46] <raylu> digitalnorm: doesn't right-clicking on a music file in rhythmbox give you an option to show you where the files are?
[03:46] <kc8pxy> digitalnorm:  tried looking for it with locate?
[03:46] <Susie> tritium: Now I do
[03:46] <digitalnorm> yes and they are not there
[03:46] <Meshezabeel> ray_, it's the video drivers in linux that you might need to look at
[03:46] <raylu> digitalnorm: at who?
[03:46] <digitalnorm> the properties says media/media/musi
[03:46] <Paralyzed> Problem: ubuntu cd wont start on reboot
[03:46] <Susie> tritium: Didn't realize that would happen and I've never done this before and have no idea what I'm doing
[03:46] <raylu> keres: wow...
[03:46] <raylu> keres: this thing is still compiling...
[03:46] <tritium> Susie: ok, no problem.
[03:47] <keres> raylu: what version are you on?
[03:47] <raylu> keres: 8.10
[03:47] <jahnkeanater> i have a microsoft moust that works on linux fine but it dosent work on two of my windows computers but it works on another windows computer
[03:47] <Susie> tritium: So...anyway...back to the question?
[03:47] <ray_> I am afraid to play around with the video drivers, because last time I tried I lost all the video
[03:47] <digitalnorm> kc8:  the path is the same folder from where i imported the music but now it is empty
[03:47] <ray_> I had to uninstall and reintall it again
[03:47] <tritium> Susie: yes.  State it succinctly, please.
[03:47] <ray_> that took an hour or more
[03:47] <Paralyzed> Jack_Sparrow
[03:47] <raylu> jahnkeanater: how is this an ubuntu question? also, uninstall the device in the device manager in windows and plug the mouse back in :D
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i would like to know what you did to get it to compile :-)
[03:47] <ray_> at least with Windows if you mess up you can run it in Safe Mode and get back to old video settings
[03:47] <anxiolytic> My computer has been overly sluggish for the past few weeks. It might have been the update to Intrepid but I'm not sure. What can I do to find out what's causing this problem?
[03:47] <raylu> onetinsoldier: just what the site said
[03:48] <jahnkeanater> its not a ubuntu question at all
[03:48] <raylu> onetinsoldier, keres: also, there are like a billion warnings
[03:48] <Susie> tritium: Well the question was when it tells me to put something in the Input Device section am I supposed to start a new input device section or paste it in the already existing one?
[03:48] <axisys_> how hard is it repartition a live ubuntu server.. i want make a separate partition for /home dir and move it off of / (root) partition
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> raylu: andit found all theheaders with no problem on the fist try?
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> first&*
[03:48] <raylu> axisys_: easy, of course.
[03:48] <raylu> onetinsoldier: yep.
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i'll be damned
[03:48] <tritium> Susie: existing one
[03:48] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i was prepard to fight autoscan/autoreconf to the death
[03:48] <axisys_> raylu: i like that answer :-)
[03:48] <raylu> onetinsoldier: but i ran make first and it's compiling
[03:49] <Susie> tritium: okay thank you. If I disappear for a bit, I had to reboot.
[03:49] <jahnkeanater> i have tryed uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling them i get an error saying they are installed wrong
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok.  roger
[03:49] <srothroc> Does anyone know how to get an accurate keyboard layout for the eee PC?
[03:49] <axisys_> raylu: how do I go by doing it ?
[03:49] <Meshezabeel> ray_, do you have an nvidia card?
[03:49] <Paralyzed> raylu: my ubuntu cd wont start the partition section on reboot, what am i doing wrong
[03:49] <Gnea> srothroc: #ubuntu-eeepc would know
[03:49] <ToddEDM> ok im baaaack... anyone know how i cam make it so a photomanager opens up automatically when i plug in my camera (rebel XSi/450d)
[03:49] <Paralyzed> raylu: im not sure what bios settings should be
[03:49] <ray_> no I am trying to remember what it is
[03:50] <kc8pxy> axisys_:  IIRc, you can't sanely modify mounted partitons.  as long as they are not mounted,  you are fine.
[03:50] <Miscc> how to make lasting block for IP with iptables .?
[03:50] <Meshezabeel> ray_ you might want to try running wine from the live cd on that computer and see what happens
[03:50] <Gnea> !iptables | Miscc
[03:50] <Schuenemann> I logged onto Ubuntu for the first time and got an error message saying my session lasted less than 10 seconds. What is that?
[03:50] <joeb3_> ToddEDM, system, preferences, removable drives and media.
[03:50] <digitalnorm> raylu: the properties in r.b. tell me the files are in the same place they had always been but looking at thatfolder it says contents nothing
[03:51] <axisys_> kc8pxy: so how do I repartition? so break /dev/sda1 (60G) to /dev/sda1 (40G) and /dev/sda2 (20G)
[03:51] <srothroc> Gnea: Thanks.
[03:51] <axisys_> sda2 will then be mounted as /home
[03:51] <ray__> I don't think Wine was on the CD
[03:51] <kc8pxy> axisys_:  are they in use?(mounted)
[03:51] <anxiolytic> My computer has been overly sluggish for the past few weeks. It might have been the update to Intrepid but I'm not sure. What can I do to find out what's causing this problem?
[03:51] <raylu> onetinsoldier: http://i34.tinypic.com/2pt3z94.png
[03:51] <ray__> I had to download it after I installed it on the computer
[03:51] <raylu> axisys_: gparted
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> keres: do you have the following package installed?   libgtkglext1-dev
[03:52] <raylu> Paralyzed: you shouldn't have ot play with your bios
[03:52] <axisys_>  /home now is  part of root ..
[03:52] <axisys_> raylu: ok.. let me try that
[03:52] <Paralyzed> raylu: i dont know whats the problem the boot manu opens i clcik IDE Cd-Rom Device
[03:52] <ray__> I see I can install a ATI/AMD Graphic Driver
[03:52] <Paralyzed> raylu: start up happens and i dont see an ubuntu logo nothing happens but normal start
[03:52] <raylu> digitalnorm: where does it say the files are? can you show me the ls output of that directory?
[03:52] <ray__> not sure why a graphic setting would affect Wine
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> raylu: nice.. i am going to try and compile here nowl. i was missing one package.
[03:52] <cairo> I tried creating a launcher with the command line gksu "/usr/bin/nautilus --no-desktop", but it doesn't work.  What is the prob?
[03:52] <raylu> digitalnorm: and if the files aren't there...what happens when you play them?
[03:53] <Meshezabeel> ray__, yes, but you can download wine  on the live CD just fine
[03:53] <Paralyzed> raylu, If the computer does not boot from the CD (eg. Windows starts again instead), check your BIOS settings and fix as appropriate.  If successfully booted from CD, the Ubuntu logo will be displayed on the screen. Press Enter to continue.
[03:53] <Paralyzed> what it says on dual boot ubuntu page
[03:54] <raylu> Paralyzed: right...but in your case, windows didn't boot
[03:54] <ray__> well I downloaded the iso file for Ubuntu, but I didn't come with Wine
[03:54] <Meshezabeel> ray__, see here for a similar case, maybe not the same as you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644480
[03:54] <Schuenemann> I logged into Ubuntu for the first time and got an error message saying my session lasted less than 10 seconds. What is that? It says that might have a problem with the installation or I have few disk space?
[03:54] <raylu> Paralyzed: ubuntu tried to boot, so you don't have to tell the bios to boot from cds before hdds
[03:54] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[03:54] <Susie> tritium: Still nothing and I had to reboot
[03:54] <Paralyzed> raylu, indeed but it just starts normal it doesnt boot the disk
[03:54] <Meshezabeel> ray__, no it doesn't come with ubuntu, but in the live cd, you can connect to the internet and use apt/synaptic
[03:54] <Paralyzed> raylu, its suppost to display an ubuntu logo
[03:54] <raylu> Paralyzed:
[03:54] <Akuma_s> Hi, good night...
[03:54] <raylu> Paralyzed: oh.
[03:54] <tritium> Susie: why do you say you had to reboot?
[03:55] <raylu> Paralyzed: so look for a bios setting that controls the order of boot devices
[03:55] <Paralyzed> raylu, so i dont know whats the problem it SHOULD boot
[03:55] <ray__> can I do that with the installed version too?
[03:55] <raylu> Paralyzed: and make sure your cd drive comes before your hard drive
[03:55] <Susie> tritium: After Ctrl + Alt + Backspace everything on my computer disappeared
[03:55] <Paralyzed> raylu, meaning?
[03:55] <digitalnorm> raylu: the tracks play normally although about half of them are now in a tab called "missing files" and they don't play
[03:55] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok, i never tried to get it to compile here.. i was just trying to get it to compile for keres. i checked all the packages listed on the site.. made sure they were installed(i assumed that keres had them all!). and it's compiling for me with on the first try also
[03:55] <tritium> Susie: did you try switching back to X or a virtual console?
[03:55] <raylu> Paralyzed: huh? i meant what i said
[03:55] <Paralyzed> raylu, vax said same exact thing i just dont know what that means
[03:55] <Akuma_s> I need a program to check for wifi networks...
[03:55] <Paralyzed> raylu, how would i do that
[03:55] <raylu> digitalnorm: um...sounds like the files are missing, then
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> keres: hello.. you still here?
[03:56] <Paralyzed> raylu, setup utilities or on boot menu?
[03:56] <raylu> Paralyzed: every bios is different
[03:56] <Tefx__> hey guys for soem reason ubtuntu dosent seem to be ulling dependancies down any mroe
[03:56] <raylu> Paralyzed: setup utilities
[03:56] <Susie> tritium: yeah nothing
[03:56] <Tefx__> and im confused to hell
[03:56] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty then! ext3, now.
[03:56] <digitalnorm> raylu: but all the files that are simply in my library tab play and they are not in the /media/media/music folder thay should be in
[03:56] <raylu> Tefx__: you mean your package manager?
[03:56] <Akuma_s> Could you recomend me one?
[03:56] <Tefx__> yeh
[03:56] <Paralyzed> raylu, how would i make the cdr come before HD
[03:57] <Tefx__> i ment apititude
[03:57] <raylu> Tefx__: what are you using?
[03:57] <Paralyzed> raylu, so that it boots
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> keres: go back into the source dir.. tell me when you are there
[03:57] <keres> onetinsoldier: yes
[03:57] <Tefx__> i just ptu ubuntu for soem reason
[03:57] <raylu> Tefx__: "sudo aptitude install"
[03:57] <webman> anyone know how to recover a LVM physical disk where the first few blocks have been overwritten ?
[03:57] <ray__> Meshezabeel: how long have you been using Ubuntu?
[03:57] <keres> onetinsoldier: ok
[03:57] <Tefx__> its installed
[03:57] <raylu> Tefx__: no, just run
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> keres: make clean
[03:57] <raylu> Tefx__: "sudo aptitude install"
[03:57] <raylu> Tefx__: so it cleans up any previous installations
[03:57] <Susie> tritium: It's really weird how unstable my computer can be actually. I can't even start it without using recovery mode. If I just let it turn on as normal my screen goes all wonky.
[03:57] <Tefx__> btu it said all these depdancies wernt in use at a tiem and they wernt so ti removed them
[03:57] <Paralyzed> raylu, iv tried i just dont know how to switch them around
[03:57] <Meshezabeel> ray__: can you do what with the installed version?
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> keres:     export LDFLAGS=""
[03:57] <ToddEDM> joeb3_: sorry i was away... i dont seem to have 'removable drives and media' in preferences.... would it be something else?
[03:57] <keres> onetinsoldier: that lists an output, but no actual effect
[03:57] <raylu> Paralyzed: i can't really help you with that. have you gotten into your bios config yet?
[03:57] <Tefx__> adn now im trygin to install the package that pulled them down last tiem again and it wont pull them with it
[03:58] <Meshezabeel> ray__ not sure, probably 2-3 years.
[03:58] <Paralyzed> raylu, affirmative
[03:58] <raylu> onetinsoldier: it's easier to just start a new shell. all the environ variables will be gone
[03:58] <raylu> Paralyzed: then good luck :P
[03:58] <ray__> would it be alright if I asked you some things private chat?
[03:58] <keres> it lists that one output listing all the derivitives of make clean
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. works for me
[03:58] <Susie> tritium: I've never really had a good graphics card support experience with Ubuntu...
[03:58] <Paralyzed> raylu, wait :P how can i "MOVE" them
[03:58] <keres> onetinsoldier: ok
[03:58] <keres> then?
[03:58] <joeb3_> ToddEDM, running gnome?
[03:58] <keres> after export LDFLAGS=""
[03:58] <Meshezabeel> ray__ sure
[03:58] <Paralyzed> raylu, mean make it first priority?
[03:58] <ray__> thanks
[03:58] <tritium> Susie: which chipset specifically?
[03:58] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i don't really know what the situation looks like
[03:58] <ToddEDM> joeb3_:  yeah
[03:58] <Susie> tritium: I believe it is 855GM
[03:59] <jahnkeanater> im going to ask a windows question
[03:59] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i will tell you that if you mount all your drives and use
[03:59] <raylu> onetinsoldier: sudo updatedb
[03:59] <Schuenemann> "Your session lasted less than 10 seconds. If you didn't finish your session, this may mean there is some installation problem or you're out of disk space. Try to start a security session to check if you can fix the problem". Can anyone help? This is my first login
[03:59] <jrib> jahnkeanater: ##windows for windows questions
[03:59] <raylu> onetinsoldier: then "locate filename" it'll search quickly for files
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> keres: make certain you have all the packages listed on the website installed
[03:59] <joeb3_> ToddEDM, gnome-volume-properties
[03:59] <raylu> Schuenemann: you got past the kernel panic?
[03:59] <CeW_imOth_fs>  hai...
[03:59] <keres> onetinsoldier: i'm 99% sure
[03:59] <raylu> Paraselene_: yes
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> raylu: it compiled for me just fine
[03:59] <jahnkeanater> y would a usb mouse work with a usb to p/s2 converter but not by itself
[03:59] <raylu> er...ignore that
[04:00] <Schuenemann> raylu, yes, I had to add initrd to lilo :-). But now I'm sutckthere
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok.. you know what to do...  make
[04:00] <bazhang> jahnkeanater, in ubuntu?
[04:00] <Tefx__> raylu can u come check this out in ssh with me please i need to get this box runnign proeprly by the morning lols
[04:00] <Schuenemann> stuck tere*
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> keres: when finished...  make install
[04:00] <jahnkeanater> and im not going to the windows room because there is no one there
[04:00] <raylu> onetinsoldier: wait...ignore all those messages
[04:00] <CeW_imOth_fs> ol yuk!!!
[04:00] <ToddEDM> joeb3_:  thx im installing that now
[04:00] <ToddEDM> y
[04:00] <jahnkeanater> no only windows ubuntu is fine
[04:00] <raylu> digitalnorm: i don't really know what your situation looks like, but
[04:00] <onetinsoldier> raylu: ok, was/did  ;-)
[04:00] <jrib> jahnkeanater: if you are having a windows issue, this is the wrong channel.  Be patient in ##windows
[04:00] <bazhang> jahnkeanater, this is for ubuntu support only
[04:00] <raylu> digitalnorm: "sudo updatedb" and then "locate filename" will help you
[04:00] <raylu> digitalnorm: if you mount all your drives first
[04:00] <jahnkeanater> yea i know that
[04:01] <ToddEDM> 1-0 Oilers  woooo
[04:01] <noobnoob> how do you know if someone has hax0red your ubuntu box?
[04:01] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m4cc47d85
[04:01] <tritium> ToddEDM: stay on topic
[04:01] <raylu> Tefx__: what package are you trying to install?
[04:01] <helpme> how do I install those fonts to make it look nicer?
[04:01] <Tefx__> dtc
[04:01] <noobnoob> !offtopic
[04:01] <jrib> helpme: what fonts?
[04:01] <jahnkeanater> im positive that there are alot of people in this room that dual boot just like me and have had windows related problems
[04:01] <ToddEDM> !sorry
[04:01] <helpme> i think its ms fonts im not sure
[04:01] <Schuenemann> raylu, any help with that one?
[04:01] <jrib> jahnkeanater: it doesn't matter.  Anyone that wants to support windows will be in ##windows
[04:02] <helpme> my KDE session crashed and I restarted my box and now its using the old fonts..
[04:02] <Tefx__> and its seriosly goen screwy
[04:02] <digitalnorm> raylu:  if i can show you this screen shot it may tell you something
[04:02] <noobnoob> firefox has been running slow lately on ubuntu what could be some reasons?
[04:02] <keres> onetinsoldier: make: *** [dependencies-check] Error 1
[04:02] <jahnkeanater> i dont think that asking here will hurt
[04:02] <digitalnorm> raylu: but i dont know how to show it to you
[04:02] <ToddEDM> joeb3_: wow thanks!!!!
[04:02] <noobnoob> how do you know if someone has hacked your box?
[04:02] <onetinsoldier> keres: i'mnot sure what's wrong.. both me and raylu just made sure we had all the packages listed on the site installed, and it compiled on the first try, for both me and him
[04:02] <Tefx__> i messed up the first instlal of it cos of not having the configs setup corectly so i removed it and started from scratch and now aptitudes chuckgin erros or nto downloadign packages correctlly
[04:02] <Tefx__> or throwing errors
[04:02] <bazhang> noobnoob, check for rootkits
[04:02] <helpme> can anybody help me please?
[04:02] <Tefx__> yet i remvoed it correctly
[04:02] <raylu> digitalnorm: tinypic.com?
[04:03] <noobnoob> bazhang what is a rootkit?
[04:03] <helpme> how can i purge and reinstall my fonts?
[04:03] <bazhang> noobnoob, apt-cache search rootkit for apps
[04:03] <ToddEDM> noobnoob: when they email you , your own nude pics
[04:03] <bazhang> ToddEDM, please stop
[04:03] <noobnoob> toddedm haha
[04:03] <tritium> ToddEDM: warning
[04:03] <raylu> Schuenemann: i've never seen that error. did you get logged out immediately?
[04:03] <noobnoob> dont warn toddedm he is being real
[04:03] <Schuenemann> raylu, yeah... I found something on the forum, let me try
[04:04] <Plecebo> Strange Problem: ubuntu 8.10 32 bit cd works fine, 64 bit gives "buffer I/O error on dev sr0" I've checked the cd against the md5 checksums, and reburned 2x's any suggestions?
[04:04] <ToddEDM> warning for what?
[04:04] <carpii> noobnoob, you havent been hacked, just relax
[04:04] <carpii> and make sure you stay connected ok?
[04:04] <noobnoob> carpii how do you know?
[04:04] <noobnoob> is ubuntu that secure out the box?
[04:04] <ToddEDM> nude is an unacceptable word or what
[04:04] <raylu> Schuenemann: is this a new user's /home dir created from skel?
[04:04] <Buster_Hymen> How well does software RAID work in ubuntu?
[04:04] <tritium> ToddEDM: keep it family friendly, or leave
[04:04] <bazhang> ToddEDM, being offtopic
[04:04] <jahnkeanater> y would ubuntu not boot
[04:04] <raylu> noobnoob: yes
[04:04] <Schuenemann> raylu, what is skel?
[04:04] <anxiolytic> My computer has been overly sluggish for the past few weeks. It might have been the update to Intrepid but I'm not sure. What can I do to find out what's causing this problem?
[04:04] <ToddEDM> lol
[04:04] <jahnkeanater> it goes from grub then haults at a black scree
[04:04] <digitalnorm> raylu: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2dbmpeh&s=4
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> kers why don't you try the following... just to make sure,    apt-get install --reinstall pkg-config
[04:04] <jahnkeanater> n
[04:04] <raylu> Schuenemann: ls -A /etc/skel
[04:04] <Susie> tritium: I found something that might work here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40865&highlight=855+drivers&page=2 look at the bold post by Vertical. But when I try to configure nvtv I get the error "pci library required"
[04:05] <onetinsoldier> keres: why don't you try the following... just to make sure,    apt-get install --reinstall pkg-config
[04:05] <raylu> Schuenemann: when you create a new user, that's the user's home dir that gets created
[04:05] <Schuenemann> raylu, the forum post says to delete ~/.gnome2
[04:05] <idealhavoc> anxiolytic: Try opening a terminal and running uptime to start, and see what the loads on your system are
[04:05] <DarkKnight> hey i face problems while playing any videos on firefox...i can't be able to play it
[04:05] <digitalnorm> raylu:  you'll see that the size of my combined contents of folder is seventy gigs less than the total size of folder
[04:05] <tritium> Susie: I'd do more reading on the official intel linux drivers website, then
[04:05] <Schuenemann> raylu, the home dir is in a different partition that is the same to my other distros
[04:05] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: pretty high, load average: 1.29, 1.39, 1.23
[04:05] <raylu> Schuenemann: ah, that makes sense then
[04:06] <Susie> tritium: The one you gave me earlier?
[04:06] <raylu> Schuenemann: perhaps you don't own all the files in your home dir
[04:06] <tritium> Susie: yes
[04:06] <Schuenemann> raylu, oh...
[04:06] <raylu> Schuenemann: or you don't own your home dir at all (different UIDs)
[04:06] <idealhavoc> anxiolytic: hmm, for a personal system with one cpu that is a bit high.  Try running the top command to see if there is any process that is at the top of the default sort
[04:06] <keres> onetinsoldier: can you do something for me?
[04:06] <raylu> digitalnorm: um...why is something mounted at /media?
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> keres: sure
[04:06] <keres> and raylu
[04:07] <digitalnorm> raylu: i don't know
[04:07] <helpme> can somebody help me please??
[04:07] <Tefx__> raylu did u see what i said when u asked wat pacage i was tryign to isntall
[04:07] <helpme> how can i install those fonts??
[04:07] <digitalnorm> raylu: i am very new to this
[04:07] <Susie> tritium: I don't know. This is all giving me a headache...
[04:07] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: I've been checking every once in a while. firefox3 and Xorg are always on top for CPU/mem usage
[04:07] <Schuenemann> raylu, I can create a file at ~
[04:07] <Gnea> !ask | helpme
[04:07] <noobnoob> bahzhang what does this mean  noobnoob, apt-cache search rootkit for apps
[04:07] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: but I didn't have this much of a problem with either of them before switching to intrepid
[04:07] <Tefx__> helpme woudl help if u said what fonts your talkign about
[04:07] <tritium> Susie: then perhaps consider an nvidia (or ati) card
[04:07] <raylu> Schuenemann: ls -ld /home/$USER ?
[04:07] <helpme> Gnea: i have asked already please do not tell me to ask
[04:07] <Soliloquial> Where should I extract a binary application to?
[04:08] <keres> actually, nm
[04:08] <raylu> Tefx__: ah, no i didn't. prefix messages to me with raylu please
[04:08] <helpme> Tefx__: as I said earlier, the ms fonts..
[04:08] <keres> it would take a long time
[04:08] <Gnea> helpme: didn't see it, don't have the time to go through scrollback.
[04:08] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: would it help if I recompile my kernel w/ SMP off, more optimized for my cpu? right now I'm using stock, 64bit
[04:08] <Susie> tritium: I would but I'm on a laptop, and it's integrated into the mother board. Yay for me.
[04:08] <raylu> Tefx__: show the output of "sudo aptitude install" please
[04:08] <digitalnorm> raylu:  meaning the location is /media, neh? and it shouldn't be in theree?
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> Soliloquial:  /usr/local/bin... or /usr/bin
[04:08] <DarkKnight> hey i face problems while playing any videos on firefox...i can't be able to play it
[04:08] <Schuenemann> raylu, drwx--x--x 27 otto otto 4096 date /home/otto
[04:08] <Gnea> tritium: in what section of that website has the docs that you're referring to?
[04:08] <raylu> digitalnorm: normally, you mount stuff inside /media. like /media/sda1 or something
[04:09] <idealhavoc> anxiolytic: I don't think that would help too much.  What is the cpu usage percentage?  It is possible that it is having disk problems or something, driving the load up
[04:09] <tritium> Gnea: there's a link.  If you look, you'll find them.
[04:09] <raylu> Schuenemann: hm, dunno then
[04:09] <digitalnorm> raylu:  it is mounted in there like this: /media/media
[04:09] <raylu> digitalnorm: oh...
[04:09] <Gnea> tritium: that really doesn't help the situation at all.
[04:09] <tritium> Gnea: documents generally help
[04:09] <digitalnorm> raylu: before i used ubuntu it was just the name of my harddrive: mediaq and so that is what ubuntu named the folder
[04:10] <alex_> hi. Can OSX read/write EXT3 ?
[04:10] <helpme> can somebody help me please??
[04:10] <digitalnorm> raylu:*media
[04:10] <Gnea> tritium: even better when they're official ubuntu documents, too. i think you can do a bit better than that.
[04:10] <helpme> how can I purge and reinstall msttcorefonts??
[04:10] <Gnea> !helpme
[04:10] <bazhang> !fonts | helpme
[04:10] <digitalnorm> raylu: but did you see the discrepency in the total size and the sum of the parts?
[04:10] <helpme> bazhang: thats not that I asked
[04:10] <helpme> how can I purge and reinstall msttcorefonts??
[04:11] <alex_> helpme: read above
[04:11] <raylu> digitalnorm: yes
[04:11] <digitalnorm> iraylu: it is the 70 gigs i am missing.  they are hidden or some thing
[04:11] <Schuenemann> raylu, I deleted that dir and it worked
[04:11] <Susie> tritium: Do you know anything about my ./configure error I mentioned just a couple minutes ago?
[04:11] <raylu> digitalnorm: i suggest unmounting it and using fsck
[04:11] <alex_> something like "sudo apt-get remove -purge msttcorefonts"
[04:11] <raylu> Schuenemann: congrats
[04:11] <bazhang> helpme, go into package manager and remove completely then reinstall them. easy.
[04:11] <lijian_> bye
[04:11] <tritium> Susie: I didn't see it.  What are you compiling?
[04:11] <lijian_> quit
[04:11] <lijian_> exit
[04:11] <tritium> alex_: --purge
[04:11] <helpme> thats not what I asked
[04:11] <lijian_> OMG  How to exit.
[04:11] <Schuenemann> raylu, thanks for your ghelp
[04:11] <alex_> anyone use OSx with EXT3 ?
[04:11] <onetinsoldier> Soliloquial: normally you'd put it in /usr/local/bin  ...leave /usr/bin for unbuntu .deb packages
[04:12] <raylu> litlebuda: try those with /
[04:12] <raylu> sigh.
[04:12] <digitalnorm> raylu:  is there some literature i cn find to tell a newbie what fsck is and how to use it?
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> keres: so what's up?
[04:12] <Susie> tritium: This is what I said earlier: I found something that might work here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40865&highlight=855+drivers&page=2 look at the bold post by Vertical. But when I try to configure nvtv I get the error "pci library required"
[04:12] <tritium> Gnea: there are no official ubunto docs for Intel tv-out
[04:12] <tritium> ubuntu*
[04:12] <bazhang> alex_, you mean using osx to read a shared folder/partition that has ext3?
[04:12] <Gnea> helpme: you have 2 choices, really: 1) adjust your attitude and be flexible, or b) google it for yourself. no one enjoys being talked down to like that and it won't be tolerated.
[04:12] <ionicz> hey guys i got a question about my boot up error i'm having on ubuntu 8.10
[04:12] <raylu> digitalnorm: do you know the name of your device? (should start with /dev/)
[04:12] <raylu> digitalnorm: and have you unmounted media yet?
[04:12] <keres> onetinsoldier: it seems i have libglib2.0-dev, but when i try make it says it can't find it
[04:12] <raylu> keres: start a new shell
[04:12] <helpme> Gnea: im just asking a simple question, theres no attitude here..
[04:12] <keres> onetinsoldier: so i reinstallled it with aptitude, same thing
[04:13] <bazhang> helpme, your question is about purging and reinstalling fonts correct?
[04:13] <helpme> bazhang: yes
[04:13] <keres> raylu: shell?
[04:13] <raylu> keres: are you using gnome-terminal?
[04:13] <ionicz> the error is " unsupported cap regs version 7 "
[04:13] <bazhang> helpme, then take the suggestions given
[04:13] <keres> raylu: yes
[04:13] <Gnea> helpme: when you say "that's not what i asked." is a really piss-poor attitude to the help that people are trying to give you.
[04:13] <tritium> Susie: again, what are you compiling?  nvtv is in the ubuntu repos, so hopefully not taht
[04:13] <raylu> keres: ok, ctrl+shift+t
[04:13] <helpme> bazhang: none of them told me how to purge
[04:13] <alex_> bazhang: mounting a partition which is ext3 from OSX
[04:13] <raylu> keres: that should clear your environment variables
[04:13] <bazhang> helpme, I just told you
[04:13] <ionicz> is anyone else having this problem?
[04:13] <raylu> keres: you can ctrl+d in the old shell
[04:13] <keres> o ok
[04:13] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: right now 99% - system monitor 50% and xorg 50%.. xorg always takes around 50%
[04:14] <helpme> bazhang: thats not what I asked
[04:14] <keres> that's a shell?
[04:14] <helpme> i want to purge them
[04:14] <bazhang> alex_, sounds like an apple question
[04:14] <keres> that makes sense
[04:14] <Susie> tritium: Yes, I'm compiling nvtv, because I had to apply a patch to it for my graphics card. I'm aware of the fact that it's in the repos
[04:14] <raylu> keres: that's both a new shell and a new terminal :D
[04:14] <bazhang> helpme then please clarify your question thanks
[04:14] <codazoda> Hi.  I am running Ubuntu 8.04.  When I connect a second monitor to my VGA port, and restart Xorg, My 2nd monitor shows 1024x768, but stays black.  So does the primary monitor on the laptop.  Any thoughts?
[04:14] <alex_> helpme: I did ... use this: "sudo apt-get remove --purge msttcorefonts"
[04:14] <onetinsoldier> raylu: keres started up a new shell. that would also get rid of the environ variables wouldn't it?
[04:14] <tritium> Susie: what is the error you get?
[04:14] <keres> raylu: ok
[04:14] <digitalnorm> raylu:  /dev/sdb and howto unmount?
[04:14] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty now, then. Does anyone here use an ATI X1600 Pro or similar X1x00 series ATI video card in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <Susie> "error: pci library required"
[04:14] <helpme> bazhang: theres no need to clarify I asked it exactly as I should
[04:14] <codazoda> If I disconnect the second video and reboot, all is well.  sis 760.
[04:14] <helpme> alex_: thank you so much :)
[04:14] <alex_> bazhang: yeah ... better find some apple folks then eh...
[04:14] <Susie> tritium: "error: pci library required"
[04:14] <bazhang> helpme, then you wont get any help here
[04:15] <idealhavoc> anxiolytic: Wow, anything in the xorg error logs?  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:15] <raylu> digitalnorm: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[04:15] <keres> onetinman: Checking for glib/gutils.h (libglib2.0-dev)... not found, please install it or set PKG_CONFIG_PATH right!
[04:15] <raylu> onetinsoldier: yep
[04:15] <digitalnorm> raylu:  figgered out unmount but is says an app wont let me
[04:15] <mankash> I have installed new network card but it is not working, it is showing in ifconfig
[04:15] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: I have desktop effects off. Oddly enough, I had them on with hardy and it was blazing fast.
[04:15] <bazhang> alex_, there is an apple / macos channel on freenode you know
[04:15] <raylu> onetinsoldier: that was the point, actually
[04:15] <alex_> halpme: it was answered above tough =) with two different methds!
[04:15] <raylu> digitalnorm: close rhythmbox, other terminals, nautilus, etc.
[04:15] <alex_> bazhang: do you know what it is?
[04:15] <codazoda> xrandr does not help with sis chipsets, right?
[04:16] <mankash> it is showing as eth1 and eth1:avahi
[04:16] <keres> onetinsoldier: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:16] <digitalnorm> raylu: okay, unmounted
[04:16] <anxiolytic> idealhavoc: nothing in Xorg log, latest entry was on dec 8th .. (I don't shutdown)
[04:16] <helpme> alex_: i asked how to purge and nobody said that until now when you did
[04:16] <raylu> digitalnorm: now, fsck /dev/sdb
[04:16] <raylu> digitalnorm: or fsck /dev/sdb1
[04:16] <keres> onetinman: should i reboot?
[04:16] <Gnea> helpme: if you're unwilling to accept the advice you've been given, then perhaps ubuntu is not something you need.
[04:16] <DarkKnight> hey i face problems while playing any videos on firefox...i can't be able to play it
[04:16] <raylu> digitalnorm: i'm not sure
[04:16] <Psi-Jack> Still no ATI users present?
[04:16] <digitalnorm> raylu:  is that in terminal?
[04:16] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger.. keres insists that all the packages listed on the site are installed.. but is still getting missing error messages   Checking for glib/gutils.h (libglib2.0-dev)... not found
[04:16] <mankash> how to fix eth1
[04:16] <raylu> digitalnorm: yes
[04:17] <idealhavoc> DarkKnight: What type of videos, flash videos, mp4, wmv, ogg theora?
[04:17] <helpme> Gnea: i was given incorrect information;  my question was not answered until now by alex_
[04:17] <alex_> =) yeah they did. One suggested synaptic "completely remove" (means purge)
[04:17] <bazhang> alex_, ##apple might be it
[04:17] <Gnea> !ati | Psi-Jack
[04:17] <Paralyzed> raylu, no dice
[04:17] <onetinsoldier> keres: you have apt-get or aptitude, or synaptic running somewhere else apparently
[04:17] <alex_> ok
[04:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: really?
[04:17] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i want to do that to the device where missing files are right?
[04:17] <raylu> onetinsoldier: i think now's a good time to go one step farther than svn revert and just remove and recheckout the source
[04:17] <Gnea> helpme: still, your attitude is off-key. please adjust it. thanks.
[04:17] <raylu> digitalnorm: yes
[04:17] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: Yeah, not very helpful, trust me. Hence why I'm looking for people that actually HAVE experience.
[04:17] <helpme> Gnea: adjust yours, thanks.
[04:17] <rustybox> can anyone help me with my xbox controller? I hacked a usb cable on it... when I plug it in the joystick works but when I calibrate it the buttons aren't recognized as being pressed
[04:18] <bazhang> helpme, please stop
[04:18] <tritium> helpme: cool it
[04:18] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: i've used ATI before, what do you need?
[04:18] <raylu> rustybox: i assume you've tried xev?
[04:18] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger. keres did you see what raylu said? you might just want to remove the source dir and re-download it
[04:18] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: ATI's had a lot of past issues with Linux driver support. I hear most of it's been fixed, but I'm trying to find the best options for setting up my card specifically with the best performance and least instabilities.
[04:18] <DarkKnight> idealhavoc; its flash videos....and many other videos from youtube..... i m able to play them...but the problem lies when i want to play a part again...and i use the scroll to scroll back...then the video gets stuck
[04:18] <keres> omg
[04:18] <digitalnorm> raylu: denied me permission
[04:18] <rustybox> raylu, no, i just joystick to test it out
[04:18] <Susie> tritium: If you have no ideas about that, I'm going to give up for tonight and try again tomorrow...
[04:18] <tritium> Susie: ok
[04:18] <rustybox> raylu, what's xev?
[04:18] <putra_k> dika
[04:19] <digitalnorm> raylu: need r/w access?
[04:19] <raylu> rustybox: a somewhat raw handling of X input
[04:19] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: it's actually getting better, slowly but surely. which card do you have?
[04:19] <raylu> digitalnorm: sudo
[04:19] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: It's the X1600 Pro.
[04:19] <keres> onetinsoldier: http://pastebin.com/m774749d5
[04:19] <idealhavoc> DarkKnight: Hmm, well, a flash issue, this is why I love closed-source plugins... hmmm
[04:19] <Susie> tritium: Thanks for your help. :-)
[04:19] <Paralyzed> I need help ubuntu wont run for partioning
[04:19] <tritium> Susie: good luck
[04:19] <DarkKnight> idealhavoc; so wats the solution
[04:19] <idealhavoc> DarkKnight: Do other flash sites work for you?
[04:19] <digitalnorm> raylu:  type sudo first?  (you have great patience)
[04:19] <DarkKnight> idealhavoc....ya it works....
[04:19] <RyanPrior> Java doesn't work in my browser. It just leaves a grey box and says "applet not initialized". Can somebody help me?
[04:19] <idealhavoc> DarkKnight: I would try re-installing the flash plugin
[04:20] <raylu> digitalnorm: yes
[04:20] <DarkKnight> idealhavoc; okk
[04:20] <stroyan> digitalnorm: All in one line 'sudo fsck /dev/sdb1'
[04:20] <rustybox> raylu, how do I know if it's detecting button presses?
[04:20] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 specifically, and currently using Ubuntu 8.10's 'restricted' version of the driver, but before I'd tried to use the official drivers from ATI/AMD, version 8.12, but had some major troubles after a couple restarts of X. One I could not recover except by rolling back to xorg 7.4's native slower driver.
[04:20] <onetinsoldier> keres: i don't know what's wrong on your system. compiled for me and raylu just fine.. on the first try. i don't know what to tell you.
[04:20] <ionicz> what does unsupported cap regs version 7 mean?
[04:20] <keres> onetinman: any idea?
[04:20] <raylu> rustybox: stuff should show up. like when you type something
[04:20] <raylu> rustybox: (on the keyboard)
[04:20] <keres> onetinsoldeier, i mean
[04:20] <andresmh> how do I avoid a new chat windows from  poping up on top of my current window? i am using intrepid with compiz
[04:20] <raylu> rustybox: er, i forgot to mention run it in a termianl
[04:20] <RyanPrior> andresmh: quit Pidgin
[04:20] <keres> onetinsoldier: should i just install 8.4 regardless?
[04:21] <digitalnorm> raylu, stroyan:  apparently i failed to unmount properly just a sec
[04:21] <keres> most of my apps work better in 8.4 anyway
[04:21] <andresmh> RyanPrior, any alternative to pidgin you recommend?
[04:21] <rustybox> raylu, it doesn't register button presses, but the joystick on the controller is working
[04:21] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: what sort of issues are you running into with the new restricted driver?
[04:21] <raylu> rustybox: hm. well, the problem doesn't lie between X and whatever app you're using
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> keres: i cannot recommend one way or the other on that, because that's entirely up to you
[04:22] <rustybox> raylu, damn, my soldering looks pretty decent, i don't see any breaks
[04:22] <raylu> andresmh: there are pidgin options to stop that. look around in the preferences
[04:22] <raylu> rustybox: well, it could be that X wasn't configured properly
[04:22] <mankash> 'any help with network card
[04:22] <stroyan> digitalnorm: If you have the lsof package installed you can check what processes are using a mount point with lsof- 'sudo lsof /media'
[04:22] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: Well, presently, defacto install of the restricted version of the driver, none, But, I wanted to know more specifically, what Option flags I can use in xorg.conf for my card to get reasonable performance and support, for example, Second Life reasonably well, before I started getting into aticonfig --initial -f. ;)
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> keres: 8.10 is working great here.. did you upgrade frmo 8.4? is that how you got 8.10? an upgrade?
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> from*
[04:22] <rustybox> raylu, what do you think i should do?
[04:22] <cairo> I tried creating a launcher with the command line gksu "/usr/bin/nautilus --no-desktop", but it doesn't work.  What is the prob?
[04:23] <RyanPrior> andresmh: Gnome's official client is Empathy
[04:23] <RyanPrior> andresmh: I haven't used it much though, couldn't tell you whether it would solve your problem.
[04:23] <raylu> rustybox: i have 0 experience with what you're trying to do :P. but i'd look into messing with your xorg.conf
[04:23] <raylu> cairo: define "doesn't work"
[04:23] <rustybox> raylu, thanks for your help
[04:23] <stroyan> digitalnorm: Stopping processes that are using a mount point is necessary before unmounting.  (Or you could use cd for a shell process that has a current working directory on a mount point.)
[04:24] <newbuntu> hi
[04:24] <RyanPrior> !hi | newbuntu
[04:24] <digitalnorm> stroyan: this is nearly over my head so .. .  i be trying though
[04:24] <raylu> digitalnorm, stroyan: i feel it'd be easier to just logout and log back in
[04:25] <speps> Hey guys how can i change partition numbers?I mean: currently i have disk partitioned in this way [ sda1 sda2 sda4 sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 ] How can i change it in [ sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 sda5 sda6 sda7 ]? Thanks
[04:25] <digitalnorm> raylu: dig
[04:25] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: aaah, okay. i'm not familiar with aticonfig, so my experience with it at that level isn't quite the same. :)
[04:25] <stroyan> digitalnorm: One common cause for more space in use on a mount point than 'contents' or 'du' shows is when a process is holding open a file that has been 'removed'.  In that case just stopping that process could release the missing space.
[04:25] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: Before I used options from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849422  post #5, and it worked, to a point.. I had problems with windows overlapping Second Life, which is an OpenGL rendering viewer, would flicker to death.
[04:25] <RyanPrior> speps: You probably do not want to do that.
[04:25] <raylu> stroyan: (s)he's gone
[04:25] <newbuntu> i have issues with my pulseaudio. apparently everytime i boot up at the login screen there is the sound of the typical ubuntu drum echoing but then there is no sound
[04:25] <rustybox> raylu, my xorg.conf says that the joystick is being called a mouse0, could that be the problem?
[04:26] <raylu> rustybox: it ...could. but i have no idea
[04:26] <RyanPrior> speps: parts of your system may rely on the devices on your computer always being named the same.
[04:26] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: Heh, what'd you end up doing for your setup, personally? Just used the restricted drivers as-is no tuning at all?
[04:26] <newbuntu> appreciate it if anyone could point me to the right direction
[04:26] <raylu> rustybox: there is an X support channel on freenode...somewhere
[04:26] <rustybox> raylu, i'll look
[04:26] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: I personally have never got pulseaudio working correctly, so I've disabled it.
[04:26] <speps> RyanPrior: what does it mean? I have done the wrong question?
[04:26] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: It's really a shame that it's included by default in Ubuntu at all - it's alpha-quality software.
[04:26] <newbuntu> how do i disable it RyanPrior
[04:27] <nintendork32> any idea why firefox is super slow for me right now?
[04:27] <fwaokda> my ubuntu is having title bar glitches. any program with a title bar glitches when I mouse over it.  I don't know what to do can someone try and help me fix it?
[04:27] <raylu> RyanPrior: audio support is kinda bleh. but there's not really a better alternative
[04:27] <RyanPrior> raylu: ALSA is much better.
[04:27] <nintendork32> opera is full speed
[04:27] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: first, go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[04:27] <raylu> RyanPrior: alsa sits on op of pulseaudio
[04:27] <raylu> RyanPrior: *top
[04:27] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: well, I was using a series that doesn't rely on fglrx, just the standard ati driver, so I didn't have to worry about a lot of these things - but I did notice, when 8.04 came out, that support for it increased and it worked a lot more readily.  with 8.10, it's working great.
[04:28] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: and un-check the box next to "PulseAudio Session Management"
[04:28] <RyanPrior> raylu: Yes, sits on top of it and blocks it.
[04:28] <raylu> RyanPrior: heh
[04:28] <benben> hello
[04:28] <newbuntu> RyanPrior,  ok done that . anything else i should do ?
[04:28] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: yes
[04:28] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: Next, go to System -> Preferences -> Sound
[04:29] <epswing> why doesn't backspace work in FF in linux?  in windows backspaces goes Back 1 page
[04:29] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: and in "Devices", select "ALSA" for each entry.
[04:29] <benben> Hello everyone. I tried to backup my file system using tar. But so far I can't redirect the output of tar command to a file. How should I do it
[04:29] <eseven73> pulseaudio is a joke, how did it ever end up in Ubuntu anyways?
[04:29] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: as for the options present in that post, it sounds like aticonfig can make it or break it - if i were you, i'd keep backups of every xorg.conf that worked successfully.
[04:29] <Gnea> eseven73: it apparantly works well on a few systems.
[04:29] <eseven73> :/
[04:29] <RyanPrior> eseven73: because It Can Do Cool Things!
[04:29] <digitalnorm> stroyan:  howto adjust screen resolution in terminal?
[04:29] <Psi-Jack> Gnea: Oh believe me, aticonfig kinda does that for you. I had like xorg.conf.fglrx-0 - 12
[04:29] <shadow98> hey guys i am running linux from a flash drive booting on my t61p...i am running it in persistent mode so it will save changes...however i don't know how to increase the space so it will save more information...can someone help me with this
[04:29] <Gnea> Psi-Jack: nice :)
[04:29] <newbuntu> RyanPrior,  ok done that . should i reboot now ?
[04:30] <RyanPrior> eseven73: Unfortunately, Doing Cool Things is the opposite of just working. :-)
[04:30] <dft> benben: tar -zcvf backup.tgz <path to dir>
[04:30] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: Just logging out and back in should be enough, I believe.
[04:30] <eseven73> heh RyanPrior true that
[04:30] <newbuntu> ok thanks . i'll try that . thanks RyanPrior
[04:31] <mankash> what is avahi in eth1
[04:31] <benben> dft, yes, but I want to direct the output and error output to a file, so I did   tar -cvpPWf backup.tar  /  > log
[04:31] <stroyan> digitalnorm: You want to change X server resolution?    gnome-display-properties command will start  a dialog
[04:31] <benben> dft, but it keeps telling me   tar: >: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[04:31] <digitalnorm> i accidentally set wrong screen resolution and now the resolution window is too big for me to see the okay button to cahnge it back
[04:31] <dft> benben: tar -cvpPWf backup.tar  /  > log 2>&1
[04:34] <stroyan> digitalnorm: The xrandr command can set X server resolution on some displays.
[04:34] <digitalnorm> stroyan:  i goofed up and set res too lwo for whole display.  not in the resolution window the okay button  is not visible so i cannot changeit back
[04:34] <newbuntu> RyanPrior, there is some problem with my sound , it still is not functioning
[04:34] <benben> dft, this is the output following your advice tar: >/logfile: Cannot stat: No such file or directorytar: 2>&1: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[04:34] <digitalnorm> stroyan: not *
[04:34] <rustybox> anyone know the xorg.conf entry for an xbox controller? I can't get button presses to work. I'm suspecting it's being recognized a a mouse
[04:34] <digitalnorm> means now
[04:34] <spanther> is the Intel GMA950 fully supported with 3D acceleration on the fly with opensource drivers inside of ubuntu?
[04:35] <RyanPrior> newbuntu: I'm not sure how to help, then.
[04:35] <dft> benben: okay hold on
[04:36] <rustybox> digitalnorm, you can drag windows by holding the alt key and clicking-dragging anywhere on the window
[04:36] <shadow98> can anybody help me out....I have a flash drive with xubuntu 8.10 installed with instructions from pendrivelinux.com  however I don't see a way to increase the persistent size of the drive...i had to reformat and do everything over after trying to install all the updates it ran out of space...
[04:36] <Chaorain> I am trying to update Vuze from #.1 (I think) to 4.0.0.4 but the auto update fails every time
[04:36] <stroyan> digitalnorm: If xrandr without options lists possible resolutions like 1280x1024 then you can use 'xrandr --fb 1280x1024' to set it.
[04:37] <Chaorain> I think I can't execute .jar file even though I hava java installed any help please?
[04:37] <dft> benben: what is your pwd
[04:37] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get a little help installing FF3.1.2 Beta?
[04:37] <raylu> Chaorain: how are you executing it?
[04:37] <andresmh>  how can I tell the Scale effect to present all the windows, including the ones that are minimized?
[04:37] <benben> dft, pwd is root, /
[04:38] <Chaorain> java -jar jarfilename.jar
[04:38] <raylu> Chaorain: and the output?
[04:38] <vintagevalves> Any GRUB experts here.  Need some help getting up and running on some antique hardware
[04:38] <Chaorain> one minute
[04:38] <dft> benben:  you cannot save your backup to the directory your backing up
[04:38] <dft> circular file I/O
[04:38] <dft> cd <to some external disk>
[04:39] <benben> dft, but I told tar to --exclude=logfile etc
[04:39] <dft> benben: doesn't matter, you're trying to save backup.tar to the directory you're trying to backup
[04:40] <benben> dft, I changed the command to tar my home directory and redirect to logfile in root, so logfile is not in the same directory as the one im backing up...it still gives me the same error
[04:40] <Chaorain> Oops I delted the file a while ago be back after I download and exicut it about 10 min
[04:40] <dft> benben: are you trying to run this command as root user or standard user?
[04:40] <benben> as root
[04:41] <benben> dft, as root
[04:41] <benben> dft, it looks like the redirection portion in the command line isn't being interpreted by bash, and so tar receives it and get very confused
[04:41] <dft> strange benben it works fine for me if I run it on Documents in my home dir
[04:42] <dft> benben: dft@gringox:~$ tar -cvpPWf backup.tar  Documents/  > log 2>&1\
[04:42] <dft> that worked perfectly
[04:42] <cairo> raylu: what is define?
[04:42] <dfurfihbv> guau
[04:43] <dfurfihbv> :O
[04:43] <raylu> cairo: you said it doesn't work...
[04:43] <raylu> cairo: but that could mean a lot of things
[04:43] <Chaorain> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[04:43] <Chaorain> there is more
[04:44] <RyanPrior> Java doesn't work in my browser. It just leaves a grey box and says "applet not initialized". Can somebody help me?
[04:44] <eseven73> !java
[04:44] <raylu> RyanPrior: try another site with java
[04:44] <Chaorain> my linux computer dosen't have an IRC yet
[04:44] <cairo> raylu: I said the gnome launcher doesn't launch; it's that simple.
[04:44] <dft> Chaorain: really?
[04:44] <RyanPrior> raylu: Can't get any of them to work.
[04:44] <raylu> cairo: ah. no, you said it "doesn't work," which could mean other things
[04:45] <Chaorain> well it does but its not set up yet I'm on my vista laptop
[04:45] <cairo> raylu: can you help?
[04:45] <Chaorain> Its actually mythbuntu but there are more people here
[04:45] <dft> Chaorain: synaptic package manager, search for Xchat
[04:45] <RyanPrior> raylu: Actually, a few of them don't work, but I did get Ken Perlin's homepage to work.
[04:46] <Junglenut> ugh
[04:46] <RyanPrior> So, specifically, Facebook and Wordle aren't working for me.,
[04:46] <raylu> RyanPrior: which java are you using?
[04:46] <fwaokda> whats the easiest way to install the 180.xx nvidia drivers?
[04:46] <fwaokda> want to install them to fix the compiz problems I'm having
[04:47] <raylu> fwaokda: since it's not in the repositories, download it from the nvidia website
[04:47] <RyanPrior> raylu: How do I find out?
[04:47] <raylu> RyanPrior: update-alternatives --list java
[04:48] <RyanPrior> I've got 4 versions.
[04:48] <raylu> RyanPrior: o.0
[04:48] <raylu> RyanPrior: overkill much?
[04:48] <catmando_> i have what may seem like an odd question
[04:48] <RyanPrior> java-6-openjdk, java-6-sun, java-1.5.0-sun, gij-4.2
[04:48] <raylu> RyanPrior: which one is currently active?
[04:48] <RyanPrior> How do I tell?
[04:48] <catmando_> in synaptic, why isn't the gnome meta-package shown as installed?
[04:49] <catmando_> and no, i'm not running kde
[04:49] <raylu> RyanPrior: there's probably a nice way with update-alternatives, but try ll `which `which java``
[04:49] <raylu> wait...
[04:50] <mankash> how to release the IP address from the network interface
[04:50] <raylu> RyanPrior: ll /etc/alternatives/jv
[04:50] <raylu> *java
[04:50] <RyanPrior> raylu: `java -version` gives me 1.6 OpenJDK
[04:50] <stroyan> cairo: That nautilus launcher works for me on hardy.
[04:50] <eseven73> RyanPrior: what browser are you using?
[04:50] <raylu> mankash: ifdown would do it. i'm sure there's a way without bringing it down, though
[04:50] <RyanPrior> eseven73: Firefox
[04:50] <raylu> RyanPrior: ok. try java-6-sun
[04:50] <RyanPrior> eseven73: 3.0.5
[04:51] <eseven73> shoudlnt about:config tell you what java you're running?
[04:51] <mankash> not working, it is nto releasing the ip address
[04:51] <Chaorain2> Hi I'm on my linux machine
[04:51] <raylu> RyanPrior: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:51] <raylu> mankash: er, did you specify the interface?
[04:51] <Chaorain2> Here is all of the output
[04:51] <Chaorain2> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[04:51] <Chaorain2> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.commons.cli.CommandLine
[04:51] <Chaorain2> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217)
[04:51] <Chaorain2> 	at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
[04:51] <Chaorain2> 	at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205)
[04:51] <FloodBot1> Chaorain2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <mankash> yes
[04:51] <eseven73> paste much?
[04:51] <raylu> mankash: that's strange...i shouldn't appear in ifconfig after that
[04:52]  * Gnea looks oddly at Chaorain2 
[04:52] <benben> dft, this is strange
[04:52] <raylu> Chaorain2: which java are you using?
[04:52] <mankash> it doesn't appear but when I do ifconfig eth0 up then it has same ip address
[04:52] <Chaorain> oops
[04:52] <Chaorain> sory
[04:52] <mankash> I have changed the dhcp server
[04:52] <benben> dft, if I just copy and paste the line in bash prompt, it ran perfectly
[04:52] <WtfPwned> SO, everyone here is using Ubuntu?
[04:52] <raylu> mankash: ...
[04:52] <SickRick> Evening all
[04:52] <raylu> mankash: that's an issue you'll have to take up with your dhcp server
[04:53] <eseven73> nope, Xubuntu, but close enough
[04:53] <WtfPwned>  Evening SickRick.
[04:53] <benben> dft, but when I place it in a script file and run that, it gives me the error I described earlier
[04:53] <raylu> mankash: many assign you an ip based on your mac address
[04:53] <mankash> ok
[04:53] <Chaorain> 1.6.0_0
[04:54] <stroyan> mankash: Try 'sudo dhclient -r' to release an IP address lease.
[04:54] <raylu> Chaorain: can you show me "update-alternatives --list java"?
[04:54] <SickRick> Installed unbuntu to a system to start learning it.  has an old CRT and Unbuntu boots to an unsupported resolution (1600X1200).  How do I change the default resolution for graphics boot?
[04:55] <soros> is there a guide for switching to the 64bit ubuntu?
[04:55] <IndyGunFreak> SickRick: so the live CD is booting to a unsupported res?
[04:55] <eseven73> 1600x1200 on a CRT? O.o how are you even able to read the print in here SickRick ?
[04:55] <Gnea> !64bit | soros
[04:55] <eseven73> i'd go blind
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> SickRick: are you in a console terminal right now? with no x windows running on the system?
[04:56] <SickRick> I'm on my hackintosh right now - 2560X1600
[04:56] <Chaorain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85009/
[04:56] <Gnea> eseven73: change the font size
[04:56] <eseven73> still
[04:56] <Gnea> still what?
[04:56] <raylu> grr.
[04:56] <eseven73> :P
[04:56] <benben> dft, solved! Turned out that I can't put redirection in a string and then execute that string
[04:56] <raylu> why do people have so many versions of java installed
[04:57] <SickRick> on a 30" samsung.  The Live CD booted into an unspported graphics mode, but I was able to power cycle the monitor and keep it runnung long enough to change the preferences
[04:57] <IndyGunFreak> SickRick: is there an option to boot in safe graphics mode?
[04:57] <raylu> Chaorain: ll /etc/alternatives/java
[04:57] <SickRick> I then used the installer to install to hard dissk
[04:57] <RyanPrior> raylu: I switched to java-6-sun and Wordle still doesn't work.
[04:57] <SickRick> The hard disk install boots to the unsupported resolution
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> SickRick: so what happens when you go to system/pref/screen resolution?
[04:58] <Chaorain> what is the first part of that command?
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> SickRick: well, with no x windows running and while at the console, i would try    Xorg -configure
[04:58] <RatPackSopra> I'm having some problems with ubuntu losing my dvd drive ...it lost it last night when I tried to play a movie (Totem) and when I put the system back on Vista it came back ...I understand there is a command line string that might help me, but I have no clue what to do. Can someone help me out?
[04:58] <Chaorain> its not being accepted
[04:58] <Datz1> Hello, does anyone know where the WONDERSHAPER config file is?
[04:58] <raylu> Datz1: um... context may help
[04:58] <dft> benben: was this inside  a shell script?
[04:58] <raylu> Chaorain: oh, instead of ll, use ls -l
[04:59] <Datz1> raylu, I want to prioritize a port
[04:59] <raylu> RyanPrior: switch again :D
[04:59] <SickRick> Can't do it on the hard disk based install - comes up in a desktop - with only "options" in lower lefthand corner
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> RatPackSopra: if you're talking about enabling DMA.. i've not had to do that, geez, since edgy.
[04:59] <raylu> Datz1: ...still no idea what you're talking about
[04:59] <SickRick> forgot to set the installer to "autologin"
[04:59] <IndyGunFreak> SickRick: i think you could boot recovery mode, and reconfigure xorg
[04:59] <Datz1> raylu, ok, well then I;ll wait for someone else.  ;)
[04:59] <Chaorain> http://paste.ubuntu.com/850010/
[05:00] <srothroc> I've tried multiple images from multiple mirrors and multiple SD cards, but I always get a initramfs prompt partway through the install for normal Ubuntu 8.10. Ideas?
[05:00] <IndyGunFreak> srothroc: use a CD or DVD?
[05:00] <jdwilm> How can i change icons of the submenus under the applications menu with the ubuntu logo?  When i try to right click > edit menus, select a folder option in the right column and hit the Properties button nothing happens.
[05:00] <Datz1> raylu, I thought there would be a config file file in /sbin/wondershaper
[05:01] <raylu> oh.
[05:01] <raylu> !info wondershaper
[05:01] <GodfatherofEire> Could I get some help installing Firefox 3.1.2 Beta?
[05:01] <raylu> Chaorain: The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist.
[05:01] <lahori> can somebody walk me through the installation of (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG) drivers for linux (ubuntu 8.10)... I am following the tutorial provided at (http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/INSTALL) but i am having problem in compiling the packages... could someone please guide me
[05:01] <RatPackSopra> anybody have an answer for my DVD dilemma?
[05:01] <raylu> Datz1: try /etc/wondershaper
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> RatPackSopra: i asked you a question, are you referring to enabling DMA?
[05:02] <Datz1> raylu ,ok thanks  This is where I got that misleading info btw http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/wondershaper-traffic-shaper-324405/
[05:02] <raylu> lahori: i'm pretty sure ipw3945 comes built into the kernel
[05:02] <srothroc> IndyGunFreak: Don't have a CD or DVD drive.
[05:02] <IndyGunFreak> srothroc: thumb drive?
[05:02] <Chaorain2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85012/
[05:03] <srothroc> I was under the impression that using a thumb drive would be essentially the same as using an SD card.
[05:03] <RatPackSopra> IndyGunFreak, I'm not really sure what to tell you ...BLUSH. I'm not sure exactly where to go with this issue
[05:03] <lahori> raylu: but the wireless button is greyd (disabled) in the network manager
[05:03] <Datz1> raylu, nothing there either.  :(
[05:03] <scientes> why isnt ubuntu mobile in tasksel?
[05:03] <IndyGunFreak> srothroc: i don't know.. i've installed from a thumb drive several times on several different machines no problems... what are you using to setup the SD card?
[05:03] <SickRick> a screw it - I'll reinstall with autologin enabled
[05:03] <RatPackSopra> My CD/DVD drive will not repond in anyway
[05:03] <srothroc> IndyGunFreak: UNetBootin.
[05:03] <Fezzler> I switched my Ubuntu PC from wired to wireless.  My printer was "tunneled" to thru network.  Can I printer wirelessly.  Meaning out y wireless card, to router, to printer?
[05:04] <augie> anyone uses truecrypt?
[05:04] <augie> can't find it on synaptic
[05:04] <IndyGunFreak> srothroc: just use unetbootin to create a thumb drive and try it.. see what happens
[05:04] <raylu> lahori: iwconfig
[05:04] <SickRick> If I figured how to make a hackintosh run - unbuntu ought to be a walk in the park...
[05:04] <lahori> atif@atiflinux:~$ iwconfig
[05:04] <lahori> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <lahori> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <lahori> wmaster0  no wireless extensions.
[05:04] <raylu> Chaorain: i'd recommend switching to java-6-sun
[05:04] <FloodBot1> lahori: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:05] <onetinsoldier> SickRick: why would you need autologin enabled?
[05:05] <Gnea> lahori: you're doing it wrong. use this: http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[05:05] <SickRick> so it will go to a normal desktop and I can get to preferences to change my resoltuons
[05:05] <lahori> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85013/
[05:05] <SickRick> resolution
[05:05] <eweb100> Gnea: Hello again.. I am still crashing but less frekuiently
[05:05] <raylu> lahori: so you don't need drivers :D
[05:05] <Chaorain> I have that installed to
[05:05] <eweb100> gnea:I am the noob from the other day
[05:05] <IndyGunFreak> SickRick: i still say just boot recovery mode, and reconfigure xorg to a lower resolution
[05:06] <IndyGunFreak> !res | SickRick
[05:06] <raylu> Chaorain: so use it
[05:06] <Fezzler> My printer is on my main PC Workgroup and shared.  Wireless should work, no?
[05:06] <Chaorain> how?
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> SickRick: when it boots up.. if it's trying to start x windows at an unsipported res, then press Ctrl+Backspace to stop it... then run    Xorg -condifure
[05:06] <lahori> raylu: am pretty new in this linux world... how do i enable wireless connection then?
[05:06] <raylu> Chaorain: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[05:06] <raylu> lahori: show me the output of "ifconfig"
[05:07] <eweb100> Can anyone help me with random FREEZES?
[05:07] <digitalnorm> raylu:  sorry bout lapse in response, i fsck'ed.
[05:07] <tonybaloney867> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU6IKFNY7OM
[05:07] <onetinsoldier> SickRick: oops... typos there   Xorg -configure
[05:07] <tonybaloney867> oops wrong channel!
[05:07] <lahori> raylu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85014/
[05:07] <tonybaloney867> (sorry :) )
[05:07] <raylu> digitalnorm: no problem
[05:08] <stroyan> Datz1: It looks like wondershaper has no config file.  It just takes arguments.  There is an OLD thread on it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25911
[05:08] <eweb100> Random Crashes Anyone?
[05:08] <scientes> eweb100, what did you do before the problem started?
[05:08] <alex_21> Hi, I downloaded the source for webkit from the Ubuntu Repository, and untared the tar.gz. Now I ahve a .orig file. Am I doing something wrong. I jsut want to make a change to main.c in the GTKLauncher source that comes in the Webkit source that is on Webkit's site. Can someone PM me about this?
[05:08] <Datz1> cd docs
[05:08] <Chaorain> ok what do I do with it?
[05:08] <Fezzler> Can shared printers be accessible wirelessly?
[05:08] <raylu> lahori: sudo invoke-rc.d NetworkManager restart
[05:08] <eweb100> scientes: The FReezing has bin going ever sence i insatlled ubuntu
[05:08] <raylu> lahori: beyond that, i have no idea
[05:09] <Chaorain> the whole java -jar jarfilename.jar thing?
[05:09] <raylu> lahori: you could configure it manually from the command line, but that'll get tedious after a reboot
[05:09] <Datz1> stroyan, thanks
[05:09] <raylu> Chaorain: yes
[05:09] <alex_21> <Fezzler:
[05:09] <scientes> eweb100, also have you tried doing ctrl-alt-F1 and using top
[05:09] <alex_21> Fezzler: Yes,
[05:09] <scientes> eweb100, (or install htop its way better)
[05:09] <eweb100> scientes: No i have not
[05:09] <abebae> whats the point of ubuntu when you have xp
[05:09] <abebae> jk.
[05:09] <digitalnorm> raylu: fsck 1.41.3 usage: fsck .ext3
[05:09] <eweb100> scientes: i will look up on htop
[05:09] <eseven73> xp isnt free or open source :P
[05:10] <scientes> eweb100, does the whole thing freeze up? does your mouse still work? any special hardware?
[05:10] <eseven73> thats the difference
[05:10] <eweb100> scientes: everything freezes
[05:10] <raylu> digitalnorm: ..?
[05:10] <eweb100> scientes: but my music still works
[05:10] <Chaorain> says no such directory
[05:10] <Fezzler> alex_21: How.  I'm in Administration>Printing  now.  What do I do to change former wired printer to wireless?
[05:10] <alex_21> Hi, I downloaded the source for webkit from the Ubuntu Repository, and untared the tar.gz. Now I ahve a .orig file. Am I doing something wrong. I jsut want to make a change to main.c in the GTKLauncher source that comes in the Webkit source that is on Webkit's site. Can someone PM me about this or here is fine
[05:10] <raylu> Datz1: After installing this package, read highly the detailed instructions: /usr/share/doc/wondershaper/README.Debian
[05:10] <Zehava> how can I get and install OpenGL 2.1 please? I've been googling for almost 20 mins now
[05:10] <Datz1> raylu, I have
[05:10] <scientes> eweb100, are you using the free driver or nvidia or ati propritary?
[05:10] <digitalnorm> raylu: i did sudo fsck dev/sdb like you said
[05:11] <raylu> Chaorain: er, perhaps you typed it wrong. it's from your "update-alternatives --list java" output
[05:11] <Chaorain> oh missed part of the name
[05:11] <the1dik> How do I disable desktop effects in Hardy?
[05:11] <eweb100> nvidia
[05:11] <eweb100> i have done nothing to the display driver since i installed this verison of ubunutu
[05:11] <lahori> raylu: network manager restarted but its still not enabled
[05:11] <Chaorain> same error
[05:11] <andresmh> so vgrabbj is using 99% of my CPU, I googled it and I couldn't figure out why I have vgrabbj
[05:11] <SickRick> Is there a command to just tell it to boot graphics in 800X600?
[05:11] <alex_21> Hi, I downloaded the source for webkit from the Ubuntu Repository, and untared the tar.gz. Now I ahve a .orig file. Am I doing something wrong. I jsut want to make a change to main.c in the GTKLauncher source that comes in the Webkit source that is on Webkit's site. Can someone write to me here is fine
[05:12] <raylu> lahori: i'm not sure, then
[05:12] <stroyan> digitalnorm: I think the exact suggestion was "sudo fsck /dev/sdb1"  But I don't know how /dev/sdb1 was actually identified as related to your /media.
[05:12] <raylu> !wireless
[05:12] <scientes> eweb100, hmmm well the best thing is probably to go do ctrl-alt-F1 any special software??? if itcountinues you could try switching to xubuntu or kubuntu...isk shouldnt do that
[05:12] <lahori> raylu: i've read those pages hundred times
[05:13] <Zehava> Can anyone direct me to opengl 2.1 download or something?
[05:13] <Chaorain> are we sure this is what the vuze update error is?
[05:13] <eweb100> scientes: when i do ctrl-alt-f1 how will that help?
[05:13] <scientes> eweb100, if sound is still working thn your kernel is still there though, and at the least you can press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart your X session but try the ctrl-alt-f1 first as that gives you a sheell which you can kill bad proceses etc
[05:13] <scientes> eweb100, it gives you a shell
[05:13] <scientes> eweb100, or a terminal
[05:13] <eweb100> Nothing responds.
[05:14] <raylu> lahori: try installing gnome-network-admin
[05:14] <eweb100> scientes: ok goods because everything works except it will crash ever 5 minunites
[05:15] <andresmh> so nothing happens in Cheese when clicking "Start recording". My camera works on Skype. How can I figure this out?
[05:15] <scientes> eweb100, that doesnt count as working to me
[05:15] <eweb100> scientes: do you think that if i switch to xubuntu i
[05:15] <eweb100> scientes: true...true..
[05:15] <bluefox83> !media
[05:15] <Dragon_X> is there a WINE support channel?
[05:15] <andresmh> if it helps, this is what i get if i run cheese from the termainal: (cheese:21717): GStreamer-WARNING **: pad video_source:src returned caps which are not a real subset of its template caps
[05:15] <bluefox83> !codecs
[05:15] <eweb100> scientes: so if i  switch to xubuntu it SHOULD work?
[05:15] <scientes> eweb100, im just saying you could try but thats probably not the problem, we dont know where the crash is happening
[05:15] <scientes> eweb100, no
[05:15] <raylu> digitalnorm: you still here?
[05:15] <digitalnorm> raylu: how do i know which device i want?  i can see them in gparted and /dev/sda1 is the big one
[05:15] <alex_21> Winehq
[05:15] <bazhang> Dragon_X, #winehq
[05:16] <eweb100> scientes: that is true there is no way of knowing what was the cause of the crash.
[05:16] <alex_21> #Winehq
[05:16] <raylu> digitalnorm: which device for what?
[05:16] <GodfatherofEire> Will SOMEBODY give me a hand with installing Firefox 3.1b2?
[05:16] <alex_21> Hi, I downloaded the source for webkit from the Ubuntu Repository, and untared the tar.gz. Now I ahve a .orig file. Am I doing something wrong. I jsut want to make a change to main.c in the GTKLauncher source that comes in the Webkit source that is on Webkit's site. Can someone write to me here is fine
[05:16] <eweb100> scientes: so you think i should do _____?
[05:16] <scientes> eweb100, well if your sound is working and you can do the ctrl-alt-f1 then your kernel is fine
[05:17] <scientes> eweb100, idk i have never had that problem
[05:17] <Szeraax> conference mode? is #ubuntu normally set to it? or do we have something happening atm?
[05:17] <p1und3r> is anyone having problems with system-tools-backend after this last update??
[05:18] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i have no idea what it the hell i am doing.  i guess my question is how do we account for the discrepency between the size of /media/media and the sum of all of its folders, as in the screenshot i showed you.  because if i can find out why those 70  gigs  are invisible, i can find my music
[05:18] <Szeraax> ok, assuming that's normal
[05:18] <kitche> Szeraax: what are you talking about? the conference thngs are just messages from freenode really
[05:18] <Szeraax> I know
[05:18] <raylu> digitalnorm: you run fsck on them. what happened when you fsck-ed it?
[05:18] <Szeraax> most channels only enable conference mode when there is somethign happening
[05:19] <Fezzler> How do I redirect my printer to my new wireless connection?
[05:19] <Szeraax> like a keynote about World of Warcraft or as a linux conference
[05:19] <digitalnorm> raylu: how do i know which device to fsck?
[05:19] <Szeraax> don't worry about it
[05:19] <Szeraax> anywho
[05:19] <Szeraax> I know this is off topic, but has anyone here had a Razer mouse and had trouble with the mouse buttons not clicking very well? I haven't found anything on Razer.com or google, though I am trying again as I speak.
[05:19] <raylu> digitalnorm: "sudo fdisk -l" may give some insight. also, df -h
[05:19] <kitche> Szeraax: sounds like a dirty mouse
[05:19] <jenpoj> en que canal se habla español?
[05:20] <Szeraax> kitche: i recall once seeing something talking about getting the buttons ot be just like new
[05:20] <raylu> !es jenpoj
[05:20] <Szeraax> but i dont remember the process
[05:20] <raylu> !es | jenpoj
[05:20] <digitalnorm> raylu:
[05:20] <clouder`grr> in Session Preferences how do I assure the order in which the startup programs are started?
[05:20] <digitalnorm> raylu: three dev sda 1, 5, and 6
[05:21] <GodfatherofEire> Would SOMEBODY give me a hand with installing FF 3.1b2?
[05:21] <digitalnorm> raylu: then sb1,2 and 5
[05:21] <raylu> digitalnorm: right, but you're going to have to figure out which one is the one that had that discrepancy
[05:21] <zex> Who can do me a favor?Tell me how to install Matlab?
[05:22] <p1und3r> anyone else have this system-tools-backend probably after the last update?
[05:22] <alex_21> What is Matlab?
[05:22] <digitalnorm> raylu:  sda1  or 5
[05:22] <Szeraax> zex: can you not do it the normal way?
[05:22] <raylu> alex_21: matrix thingy. lots of scientific tools, popular in research labs
[05:22] <raylu> digitalnorm: the easiest way is to guess by size. also "mount" will help
[05:23] <raylu> alex_21: not free (in either sense) software
[05:23] <Dragon_X> im having an issue, i tried installing Compvix, couldnt get it working and now when i try to change my screen resolution i get xorg error
[05:23] <digitalnorm> raylu: sda1 is "system w95 ext'd (lba) and sda5 is "system hpfs/ntfs" so i guesss it is that one
[05:24] <digitalnorm> raylu: the data i am talking about is from my win days so it is probably the ntfs partition
[05:24] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: hello. what is FF 3.1b2?
[05:24] <zex> Szeraax: I have downloaded a .iso file of Matalb,but don't know how to install it
[05:24] <stroyan> digitalnorm: linux fsck won't like an NTFS filesystem.
[05:24] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier: Firefox version 3.1 beta 2
[05:25] <digitalnorm> raylu: well shit
[05:25] <Soliloquial> why does the jdk need to install a bunch of random fonts?
[05:25] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: where have you downloaded it from?
[05:25] <raylu> digitalnorm: you could just mount it to see what's inside
[05:25] <jrib> zex: see the help.ubuntu.com/community page on matlab, but consider scilab or gnu octave as Free alternatives
[05:25] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: oh. what trouble are you having installingit?
[05:25] <ziroday> Soliloquial: because those are the fonts java requires
[05:25] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier: When I go and open the executable file, it opens 3.0.4, not 3.1
[05:25] <zex> ./jrib
[05:25] <digitalnorm> raylu: "sudo mount /dev/sda5"   ?
[05:25] <GodfatherofEire> ziroday: from Mozilla.org
[05:26] <fwaokda> how can i find out what version of ubuntu im currently running so i can edit my grub to properly reflect it?
[05:26] <Soliloquial> why do we still use java? -_-
[05:26] <raylu> digitalnorm: not quite. you need to specify a mount point. try the Places menu
[05:26] <zex> Thank you.I will have a try
[05:26] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: in what package?
[05:26] <GodfatherofEire> ziroday: tar.bz2
[05:26] <ziroday> Soliloquial: because we do.
[05:26] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: ok, how did you install it? what method, name of file, ect
[05:26] <raylu> Soliloquial: because if we can stop bad programmers from writing bad code... oh wait.
[05:26] <zex> .
[05:26] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: okay then you have to compile it. Why do you want to run firefox 3.1?
[05:26] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier: tried extraction, havin trouble with dpkg, cant remember how to install a tar.bz2
[05:27] <ziroday> !compile > GodfatherofEire
[05:27] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: tar xjf filename.tar.bz2
[05:27] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: you may also want to see !latest
[05:27] <sar4j1> My Interpid randomly refrains from waking from a sleep. I have Lenovo Y410. When I press the power button to come back from sleep, the computer appear to startup but nothing comes on the screen, no cursor, no dialog, nothing. ctrl+alt+f1 no change. I HAVE TO HARD BOOT. makin the sleep feature EXTREMELY unreliable.. Syslog doesnot show nything. I looked up forums, there are other no wakeup issues where they see a cursor or other cases, but not this one..
[05:27] <leewings> Help! How to deal with this "err:module:import_dll Library NDIS.SYS (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\drivers\\NPF.sys") not found"??
[05:27] <sar4j1> can any one help
[05:27] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: and what directory did you extract it to?
[05:27] <sar4j1> did any on else have this issue
[05:27] <ziroday> leewings: where are you seeing this error?
[05:28] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier: Desktop, home, /opt, tried all of em, nothin yet
[05:28] <idealhavoc> fwaokda: I think the /etc/debian_version has it in there
[05:28] <leewings> ziroday: when I am using wine.. the program die and the terminal shows this.
[05:28] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: did you see the pm that ubottu gave you...
[05:28] <ziroday> leewings: okay, what program?
[05:28] <GodfatherofEire> ziroday: there are some extensions that I would like to test in 3.1 that are not available in 3.0.4, and I'm getting to it
[05:28] <ziroday> leewings: are you running with wine
[05:28] <fwaokda> idealhavoc, thanks i'll look
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: oh man..  firefox files are going to be all over the place it sounds like. did it make any subdirectories after unpacking it?
[05:29] <leewings> ziroday: yeah.. "wine p2pover.exe"
[05:29] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: okay, well you need to read that on how to compile firefox 3.1, however it will not be easy. Probably better if you can find a pre-compiled package somewhere else.
[05:29] <fwaokda> idealhavoc, that file only contains this "lenny/sid"
[05:29] <Soliloquial> !java
[05:30] <digitalnorm> raylu: from places i can open the /media/media and see all the contents.  however, the /media/media/music folder is empty, although i never emptied it, i jus timported the paths into rhythm box
[05:30] <srothroc> IndyGunFreak: I tried the USB drive; it worked up to the login, when I let it automatically login with the "ubuntu" username... then I got a tan screen for a long time, and now a black screen.
[05:30] <GodfatherofEire> ziroday: I'll be fine, it might take me a while, but better to learn than be ignorant of it caus there arent always gonna be pre-compiled packages
[05:30] <raylu> digitalnorm: now, use "mount" to see which device it is
[05:30] <idealhavoc> fwaokda: Try cat /etc/issue
[05:30] <ziroday> leewings: ask in #winehq
[05:30] <digitalnorm> raylu: where is mount?
[05:30] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier: no, I tried in those places, and it didnt work, I didnt have to do it in all 3 though, I was following different instructions/leads, none of which worked
[05:30] <idealhavoc> fwaokda: Sorry, debian_version is for the debian version, not the ubuntu version
[05:30] <raylu> digitalnorm: er, just run it in a terminal
[05:30] <leewings> ziroday: ooops.... I C... thx :-)
[05:31] <mike1504> have an ubuntu 8.04 installation which has become extremely slow can someone help me speed it back up
[05:31] <ziroday> GodfatherofEire: okay, well the factoid that ubottu has sent to you gives you all the necessary information.
[05:31] <Guest1861> HELLOO
[05:31] <GodfatherofEire> thanks ziroday
[05:31] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: did you download a source package? i take you never got the .tar.bz2 to unpack then if it didn't make any subdirs...
[05:31] <fwaokda> idealhavoc, ok that tells me it's 8.10 . what about what is after 8.10 ?
[05:31] <Soliloquial> is it possible to get openjre to run as a browser plugin, or do I need sun for that?
[05:31] <fwaokda> idealhavoc, excuse me I mean like whats the kernel version also
[05:32] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier, no I got the tar.bz2 file, and it did make subdirs, I just dont know where to organize them.
[05:32] <jrib> Soliloquial: icedtea
[05:32] <raylu> leewings: um...
[05:32] <idealhavoc> fwaokda: kernel version can be found by running uname -a
[05:32] <digitalnorm> raylu: i typed mount in the terminal and that showed me a bunch of text i don't understand
[05:32] <arrenlex> Soliloquial: I believe it is icedtea6-plugin
[05:32] <fwaokda> ok thanks
[05:32] <raylu> leewings, ziroday: wouldn't it be easier to just find NDIS.sys?
[05:32] <analogue__> hi all
[05:32] <raylu> digitalnorm: find /media/media, look for the /dev/ associated with it
[05:33] <analogue__> i am a ubuntu newbie
[05:33] <ziroday> raylu: because that won't be the only thing he needs.
[05:33] <Appi> hi please help my friend has deleted a file of windows xp from ubuntu i am able to redo the same files because i am unable to start the windows xp and it prompts NTLDR file missing
[05:33] <analogue__> i think i am not logged in as the admin
[05:33] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: well, if it's a source tarball then i would think there is one main dir that the source is contained in. you go into it and start the process of compiling it
[05:33] <raylu> ziroday: then we'll deal with the next one :D
[05:33] <analogue__> how do u log in as admin when linux starts
[05:33] <analogue__> ?
[05:33] <digitalnorm> raylu: /dev/sda5 on /media/media type fuseblk
[05:33] <Fezzler> If my printer is connected to a smb ://NETWORK but my Ubuntu networks wirelessly, do I set my printer up as ipp:// ??
[05:33] <ziroday> !root | analogue__
[05:33] <GodfatherofEire> thanks onetinsoldier, I'll give that a shot then
[05:33] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: do you see a file named "configure"?
[05:33] <RyanPrior> !sudo | analogue__
[05:33] <GodfatherofEire> raylu, nope
[05:34] <arrenlex> analogue__: Use the recovery option of grub.
[05:34] <raylu> digitalnorm: ok, so sda5 was correct
[05:34] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: and, again, if it's a source tarball you don't worry about the subdirs that are inside the main source dir
[05:34] <abarai_renji> hi, are there no updates available at the ubuntu main repo for the past 2 weeks?
[05:34] <Appi>  hi please help my friend has deleted a file of windows xp from ubuntu am able to redo the same files? because i am unable to start the windows xp and it prompts NTLDR file missing
[05:34] <digitalnorm> raylu: that is the ntfs unfortunatly
[05:34] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: really? it should be there...
[05:34] <arrenlex> analogue__: Grub should have two entries -- one which you usually boot, and one which has (recovery) or maybe (single user) on the end
[05:34] <analogue__> thanks
[05:34] <raylu> digitalnorm: er...so?
[05:34] <XFCEntral> analogue_: on ubuntu, you dont have the option of logging in as "admin" at startup, you use the "sudo" command to give yourself admin priveleges when necessary
[05:34] <ziroday> analogue__: in ubuntu you cannot login as administrator
[05:34] <Fezzler> Or would my printer still be smb://NETWORK
[05:34] <digitalnorm> raylu: lol i thought that taht was no good with fsck
[05:34] <GodfatherofEire> raylu onetinsoldier, sorry bout that, not a source tarball
[05:34] <raylu> digitalnorm: ah, right. you don't happen to have a windows install handy, do you?
[05:34] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: oh! it's binary tarball?
[05:35] <digitalnorm> raylu:  maybe left over from an old oink download
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier, I guess, seeing as how there are executables there with binary executables, yes
[05:35] <raylu> digitalnorm: er, why do you have ntfs partitions, then?
[05:35] <Fezzler> How do I check that Samba is installed and running?  How do I find my active Samba config file
[05:35] <andresmh> how do I find what version of libv4l i have?
[05:35] <eweb100> Where is the resulation tool in xubuntu?
[05:35] <arrenlex> !version | andresmh
[05:36] <ziroday> andresmh: apt-cache policy <programname>
[05:36] <arrenlex> andresmh: Ugh, that wasn't really helpful.
[05:36] <analogue__> okay that helps in terminal to type sudo first, but how can i do things like rename and move files in the regular desktop environment without using terminal?
[05:36] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: run ps aux and check to see if smdb and nmdb ar running
[05:36] <arrenlex> andresmh: dpkg -l <packagename>
[05:36] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: well source dirs can have excecutable files in them. anyway. what happens if you go in there and try   ./firefox    ?
[05:36] <eweb100> Is there a resulation tool in linux??
[05:36] <jrib> analogue__: you shouldn't need to do that to anything outside your HOME
[05:36] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i switched from xp to ubuntu without knowing what i was doing and i still don't know but i wanted to keep all of my media from my windows days and use it in ubuntu
[05:36] <ziroday> arrenlex: um, the last bit was useful, it explains how
[05:36] <Appi> please guys anyone help me  hi please help my friend has deleted a file of windows xp from ubuntu i am able to redo the same files because i am unable to start the windows xp and it prompts NTLDR file missing
[05:37] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: your config file should be called smb.conf I think, it might be under /etc/samba/
[05:37] <arrenlex> analogue__: You can launch nautilus (the file manager) with root permissions temporarily --- gksu nautilus
[05:37] <andresmh> arrenlex, i get No packages found matching libv4l.
[05:37] <Meshezabeel> MarthaStewart_: is it really you?
[05:37] <arrenlex> andresmh: Then you don't have it installed as a debian package.
[05:37] <digitalnorm> raylu: so i just jumped in head first and installed ubuntu and since then i have never used windows and don't believe i have the option to now
[05:37] <GodfatherofEire> onetinsoldier, it does open up firefox, just not 3.1
[05:37] <eweb100> Can somone help me extend my desktop to another monter in Xubuntu??
[05:37] <analogue__> it says i do not have permission to rename drives, or copy and move files etc
[05:37] <arrenlex> ziroday: Wasn't what he was asking for. That command shows the most recent version available, but he was asking for which one he had installed.
[05:37] <andresmh> whereis libv4l returns libv4l: /usr/lib/libv4l /usr/local/lib/libv4l1.so /usr/local/lib/libv4l2.so /usr/local/lib/libv4l
[05:37] <andresmh> so i do have it
[05:37] <jrib> arrenlex: that's a different issue.  What filesystem?
[05:37] <raylu> digitalnorm: hrm =\. it would have been nice to convert your partitions away from ntfs. but anyway...
[05:37] <arrenlex> andresmh: Ah, you installed it manually.
[05:38] <jrib> analogue__: that's a different issue.  What filesystem?
[05:38] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: smbd<---?
[05:38] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i am just very ignorant right now
[05:38] <jrib> !who | analogue__
[05:38] <raylu> digitalnorm: it'd be nice if you could get your hands on fdisk from a windows recovery cd or similar
[05:38] <eweb100> hello? is anyone there?
[05:38] <analogue__> FAT 32
[05:38] <digitalnorm> raylu: i am trying to figger it all out
[05:38] <raylu> digitalnorm: alternatively, you can try "sudo updatedb" and "locate filename" as i said before
[05:38] <andresmh> i had it already before i installed it manually, but i am not certain if it's using the version i installed manually (the newest one) or the one that comes from ubunutu repo
[05:39] <jrib> !vfatanalogue__ >
[05:39] <tiyowan> Appi: Put in a Windows disc, and select Repair your Windows installation from there.
[05:39] <jrib> !vfat > analogue__
[05:39] <andresmh> how can I know what version of libv4l my apps would be using?
[05:39] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: ah yeah, that's it ;)
[05:39] <axisys> how do I make the link full duplex? line 517 in my dmesg shows it is half duplex
[05:39] <fwaokda> I ran clamav on my windows partition from ubuntu.  It caught some viruses that I suspected being there (some kind of rootkit thing and a couple others)  I was wondering is there anything else I should run/try before starting back up the windows partition.  I've heard of viruses reinstalling themselves once windows boots up... Also my clamav said that the engine was outdated but I couldn't find out where/how to update it can anyone hel
[05:39] <fwaokda> p?
[05:39] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: I think nmbd should be running too
[05:40] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i did sudo updatedb and my computer thought for a bit and now what should i check?
[05:40] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Yup It is
[05:40] <arrenlex> andresmh: Ah... there's probably an easier way, but do you have any application installed which uses that library?
[05:40] <Appi> tiyowan:  is it not possible to install NTLDR from ubuntu
[05:40] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: so it is running :)
[05:40] <raylu> digitalnorm: now you can use "locate filename" and it'll show you where it is, if it exists
[05:40] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: hrrrm, i dunno
[05:40] <tiyowan> fwaokda: You need to boot into Windows safe mode, download a rootkit uninstaller, and take it from there.
[05:40] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: after you change your script, you need to restart samba
[05:40] <raylu> digitalnorm: so you could run locate on some of your music files. i have to go now; i may be back in half an hour, i may not
[05:40] <andresmh> arrenlex, yes, the app is called cheese
[05:40] <fwaokda> tiyowan, ok thanks
[05:40] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: I had a wired network card and switched to wireless.  No trying to get shared printer to work again
[05:41] <arrenlex> andresmh: What does this say? ldd <path/to/cheese> | grep v4l
[05:41] <ardor> its hard for me to solve this with google.
[05:41] <humblewillis> Hi there, I was wondering if I could get someone to help me with an audio driver issue.
[05:41] <stroyan> GodfatherofEire: You need to shut down any already running firefox before you start the beta version.  Otherwise the beta just asks the running firefox to open another window for it.
[05:41] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler, can you see other samba shares when connected wirelessly?
[05:41] <andresmh> arrenlex, returns nothing
[05:41] <tiyowan> Appi: It's better if you try the Win. disc first. Can you mount the Windows partition from Ubuntu and check if there any files like NTDETECT.COM present in the directory?
[05:41] <GodfatherofEire> stroyan: done that too
[05:41] <analogue__> I am trying to get my echo MIA soundcard working and ubuntu forums say to install ALSA drivers first, but i do not have permission to extract or move the ALSA files to the right location
[05:42] <Appi> tiyowan: is it possible to install NTLDR file from ubuntu
[05:42] <ardor> I am running ubuntu server, and I dont have a get command to download webpages, when i use apt-get install get, it doesnt find the package, Anyone know what its called?
[05:42] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Yes
[05:42] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: i do know what i would do though if i were you and i REALLY wanted to try out 3.1b2
[05:42] <Appi> tiyowan: ok
[05:42] <stroyan> GodfatherofEire: The beta started fine for me by just running the 'firefox' script in the directory it unpacked into.
[05:42] <XFCEntral> ardor: do you mean 'wget'?
[05:42] <abarai_renji> fwaokda; please see this http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2008/02/14/update-clamav-in-ubuntu/
[05:42] <ardor> yes, i am dumb.
[05:42] <tiyowan> Appi: Yes, it is. But you still need a Windows disc to copy the files off of.
[05:42] <XFCEntral> ardor: nahh it happens :)
[05:42] <fwaokda> abarai_renji, ok thank you
[05:42] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: so why is the printer not working?
[05:43] <GodfatherofEire> stroyan: found the problem, firefox wasnt QUITE closed, had to kill the process
[05:43] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: or did you change your samba configuration?
[05:43] <abarai_renji> fwaokda; welcome
[05:43] <arrenlex> andresmh: That's weird. It's not linked to that library at all. What is the full output of ldd <path/to/cheese> ?
[05:43] <onetinsoldier> GodfatherofEire: nice one.. good you got it worked out
[05:43] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Not sure
[05:43] <stroyan> GodfatherofEire: Now your beta testing really begins.  Good luck with that.
[05:44] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: the shares and printer are in the same smb.conf file?
[05:44] <andresmh> arrenlex, http://paste2.org/p/115701
[05:44] <digitalnorm> raylu:  i appreciate your help. i think i am too newbie to do this myself.  thanks for taking the time. . peace
[05:44] <Appi> tiyowan: okay I will try to do same, thank you very much
[05:44] <runpain2> how can i auto start a gdesklet daemon like a clock without starting the whole shell where you pick the daemon from Like in ubuntu ce a bible verse shows up on desktop when you loged in
[05:44] <Fezzler> Messhe
[05:44] <humblewillis> I have the appropriate drivers down loaded for my audio drivers.  Where do I extract them to, and how do I install them?  Do I need some sort of SSH client?
[05:44] <andresmh> not listed there, maybe that's why cheese is not working, i guess that's the problem that i started it all
[05:45] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Where is the smbconf file again located?
[05:45] <tiyowan> Appi: Could you wait one please? I'd like to give you a link.
[05:45] <Appi> tiyowan: sure
[05:45] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: May be a permission issue
[05:45] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: I'm not exactly sure, I think it is under /etc/samba , but can't remember off the top of my head, otherwise you could do locate on it
[05:45] <arrenlex> andresmh: Wow! Lots of dependencies. Anyway, I read the whole list and there's nothing resembling v4l there. It may be statically linked to its own version.
[05:45] <analogue__> is there anyway to have root permissions to drag and drop files without using terminal and sudo?
[05:46] <GodfatherofEire> stroyan: any idea how to port stuff from 3.0.4 to 3.1b2?
[05:46] <andresmh> agh, thanks arrenlex, cheese is driving me crazy
[05:46] <jrib> analogue__: umm, did you read what I sent you?
[05:46] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Just noticed it can see the other network devices but not access.  Maybe something got broken when I switched to wireless netwrok card
[05:46] <abarai_renji> hi, are there no updates available at the ubuntu main repo for the past 2 weeks?
[05:46] <XFCEntral> analogue_: are you dragging and dropping files outside your Home directory?
[05:46] <andresmh> my camera works with skype but not with cheese
[05:47] <analogue__> yes, but i can see my other partitions i'm trying to copy files to the linux partition
[05:47] <arrenlex> andresmh: libv4l doesn't seem to be listed in the dependencies for cheese...
[05:47] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: how are the machines connected together? Through a wireless router?
[05:47] <jrib> !who | analogue__
[05:47] <stroyan> GodfatherofEire: I assume you mean add-ons.  I don't work on those.  That sounds like a topic for mozilla.org
[05:47] <onetinsoldier> raylu: something i can't remember(i'm still kind of rusty here). if using a display manager do you know if a .xsession or .xinitrc file still works to start up apps when the wm load ups?
[05:47] <jrib> analogue__: you aren't making any sense
[05:47] <analogue__> im trying to just drag and drop  a tar file to my directory /usr/src/alsa
[05:47] <noobnoob> is there a better search engine than google at finding something on the internet?
[05:47] <tiyowan> Appi: If you have a Windows disc available, then repairing from there is best. You need to select the repair option and type fixmbr. Otherwise, you can try this: http://tinyempire.com/notes/ntldrismissing.htm
[05:47] <analogue__> it says i do not have permission
[05:48] <analogue__> lol sorry
[05:48] <andresmh> camorama is also not working
[05:48] <noobnoob> im am looking for someone there nick is "xxxx@yahoo.com" i dont think google can find it is there some other search engine that works better?
[05:48] <jrib> analogue__: yes.  I gave you instructions on how to setup proper permissions for your user on vfat
[05:48] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: Main PC connected wired to router; printer USB to main PC; Ubuntu wireless to router
[05:48] <andresmh> gives an error: Could not connect to video device
[05:48] <andresmh> /dev/video0
[05:48] <tiyowan> Appi: The solution will overwrite GRUB, which means you won't be able to boot into Ubuntu; don't panic, that can be fixed as well. You'll need to reinstall GRUB off the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[05:48] <arrenlex> andresmh: Does /dev/video0 exist?
[05:48] <analogue__> the link u sent? or code you left on irc screen?
[05:48] <andresmh> arrenlex, i think it does, how can i check?
[05:48] <XFCEntral> analogue_: if you need to do something that uncommon, it should be no problem to run 'gksu nautilus' at the terminal to do what you have to do
[05:48] <arrenlex> andresmh: Try the command "file /dev/video0"
[05:49] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: and before they were the same way, except both pcs were connected wired to the same router?
[05:49] <jrib> analogue__: I didn't give you any code.  Ubottu sent you a link
[05:49] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: the same router you are using now?
[05:49] <Appi> tiyowan: okay I will do the same.
[05:49] <Appi> tiyowan: thank you very much
[05:49] <tiyowan> Appi: You're most welcome.
[05:49] <analogue__> ok ill look it over again, but that seemed like it was for automatically mounting other partitions, which is not my issue
[05:50] <onetinsoldier> runpain2: hello. i'm still a llittle rusty here, but i think you can make a file in your home directory(or it may already be there called..  .xsession. and you can edit the file with executables you want to start up with your window manager
[05:50] <andresmh> arrenlex, it returns /dev/video0: character special
[05:50] <jrib> !startup | runpain2
[05:50] <arrenlex> andresmh: That would be correct.
[05:51] <onetinsoldier> thanks jrib
[05:51] <Meshezabeel> Fezzler: you could also try sharing your printer with CUPS instead of with samba
[05:51] <andresmh> arrenlex, in fact, on skype i can do a test of the camera, and it is listed as UVC Camera (17ef:4807)  (/dev/video0)
[05:51] <runpain2> thanks onetinsoldier  i have kubuntu 8.04 though will that work there as well
[05:52] <arrenlex> andresmh: Oh, so it's just cheese that can't see it?
[05:52] <andresmh> but both cheese and camorama wont work
[05:52] <onetinsoldier> runpain2: ok, good luck
[05:52] <nimbus> Anyone have the issue in which when playing a full screen opengl game, about 10 minutes into it the game windows and becomes unresponsive to controls?
[05:52] <runpain2> i read some where you can run gnome and kde side by side
[05:53] <dotblank> possibly in differant x sessions
[05:53] <runpain2> what ever you do in gnome will show up in kde right
[05:53] <andresmh> friking skype, i hate it is so smart that  works out of the box but cheese and camorama don't
[05:53] <mankash> I have 2 network cards
[05:53] <onetinsoldier> runpain2: doh.. i see you were asking a question. yes.. should work there as well. you need put a line at the very top though...
[05:53] <mankash> how to break the link-local
[05:54] <arrenlex> andresmh: Have you tried googling that error message with cheese in the string?
[05:54] <andresmh> yes
[05:54] <analogue__> Thanks XFCentral : 'gksu nautilus' works
[05:54] <onetinsoldier> runpain2: the line at the very top should be like so...   #!/bin/bash
[05:54] <andresmh> nothing useful
[05:55] <onetinsoldier> runpain2: then you put stuff below it... like   /usr/bin/clock
[05:55] <XFCEntral> analogue_: no problem! that should do the trick when you need to be root and you prefer doing things graphically
[05:55] <runpain2> ok wait a few brb
[05:56] <jrib> analogue__: you should setup proper permissions for your user as I've tried to tell you 3 times now....
[05:57] <analogue__> sorry jrib i think i lost that link
[05:57] <arrenlex> andresmh: Just wondering, what happens if you launch it with sudo?
[05:58] <jrib> !vfat > analogue__
[05:58] <analogue__> thankjs
[06:00] <tiyowan> KDE 3.5 on intrepid is unsupported right?
[06:02] <soros> nautilus is goofy.. right click->eject on empty cdrom and it says "Unable to mount media.  There is probably no media in the drive. "
[06:02] <Irreducibilis> 1311 people =O
[06:02] <sliderz> Would anyone feel compelled to confirm/deny my thoughts about a video card issue?
[06:02] <Gr33n3gg> We should get 1337 people in here.
[06:02] <sliderz> <-Knows just enough to know he is probably doomed.
[06:03] <tnoy_> if you just ask the question you're more likely to get someone to try and help. asking if you can ask a question doesnt help much
[06:03] <sliderz> apologies...
[06:05] <ardor> JOIN #bbs
[06:05] <sliderz> I have Ubuntu 8.10..fresh install.  Geforce 6200.   WHICH package is correct for me? from what I can tell its the glx-96....  now I have x shut down, and when I try to install THAT version OR glx-173 it tells me it cant find/OR/compile for my kernel (too new).   Does that mean I HAVE to downgrade the kernel.....OR? have I just looked over the solution?
[06:05] <dialman> Anyone have any idea why Nautilus would suddenly not be able to mount USB drives but Dolphin still can (albeit with a admin password, which I never had to give to Nautilus).
[06:06] <dialman> That's under Ubuntu 8.04
[06:08] <tnoy_> sliderz: you could download the driver from nvidia's site, it should build the kernel module for your kernel, so you don't have to downgrade it
[06:08] <cvd-pr> Hello there, On quest
 Why firefox in linux the Preference is in the edit menu and in windows is in tools menu?
 any logic sense?
[06:08] <lonejack> first step using bison. Somebody can address me to a specific channel? This is good? thx
[06:08] <dialman> Nautilus still *shows* them when I connect, but if I right click on the drive and select Mount Drive nothing happens (no errors or anything, but the drive doesn't mount).
[06:08] <sliderz> tnoy_: both of those (the 173 and 96 versions) are the ones that say "nope, cant compile for your kernel
[06:08] <XFCEntral> cvd-pr: not that i can think of :) always wondered that myself
[06:09] <tnoy_> sliderz: do you have the build tools installed?
[06:09] <sliderz> now that,....im not sure of..
[06:09] <cvd-pr> XFCEntral,  :-S
[06:09] <onetinsoldier> sliderz: this is the nvidia proprietary driver? that you've downloaded from them?
[06:09] <sliderz> onetinsoldier, yes
[06:10] <sliderz> the one that supports my card even..ive researched
[06:10] <tnoy_> sliderz: why not use glx-177 from the repository?
[06:10] <sliderz> even tried envyNG...didnt work.
[06:11] <onetinsoldier> sliderz: yeah, form what i have seen on here. the kernel is too new and you have to wait for nvidia to come out with a driver that will work with newer versions of the linux kernel. and guess what, us ati users are in the same boat
[06:11] <sliderz> tnoy_ how/where/thank you/?
[06:11] <onetinsoldier> s/form/from
[06:11] <tnoy_> sliders, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[06:11] <RatPackSopra> guys I've heard that my loss of my dvd drive might have something to do with me using the 64bit version. If I decide to use the 32 bit version and I'm using wubi will I pretty much be starting from zero? I hate to think that all the tweaks I've done will be lost.
[06:12] <onetinsoldier> sliderz: or, perhaps what tnoy_ suggets will work.. i dunno
[06:12] <tnoy_> sliderz: are you using your own kernel, or the one that ubuntu provides?
[06:13] <sliderz> its stock 8.1, just downloaded like 2 hrs ago
[06:13] <LinuxEric> i am having probems with my video graphics can someone help me running extremely slow on compiz
[06:13] <onetinsoldier> sliderz: you mean 8.10 of course.. i'm sure
[06:13] <sliderz> yes 8.10, right off the website
[06:14] <arrenlex> LinuxEric: What does this command say? glxinfo | grep ender
[06:14] <andresmh> arrenlex, sudo cheese doesn't work either
[06:15] <arrenlex> andresmh: Yeah, I dunno, man. Sorry.
[06:15] <andresmh> the webcam works on amsn and skype
[06:15] <tnoy_> sliderz: Then use the driver from the ubuntu repository, it should be made for the kernel you're using
[06:16] <sliderz> its asking me for the disk now...
[06:16] <RatPackSopra> any comments on my question?
[06:16] <sliderz> i didnt try the newest one b/c i didnt think it would work...tried to go the safe route. LOL
[06:18] <MindVirus> Which is better? -(q & 1) & n or (q & 1) * n?
[06:18] <sliderz> tnoy it went back to terminal..now just c/a/backspace and its done?
[06:18] <sliderz> depends on n
[06:18] <axisys> is there a tool I can use to check the stat of a nic?
[06:18] <MindVirus> sliderz, what are the conditions?
[06:18] <sliderz> MindVirus....at least a 5th of whiskey.
[06:18] <arghh2d2> axisys ifconfig?
[06:18] <Roasted> I know this istn really an Ubuntu question but, is there anything you can do to an LCD monitor to get the yellowish tint it displays to zap back to white like it used to be?
[06:19] <MindVirus> Right...
[06:19] <tiyowan> Roasted: Sounds like the backlight or inverter is bust.
[06:19] <Roasted> tiyowan - maybe, I don't know. I just got a 19 inch used LCD emachines for my secondary monitor and I was just like, whoa... my 22" viewsonic is suddenly not so bright.
 try entering in to the monitor configuration and reset to factory settings
[06:20] <Roasted> it's to the point I want to dump ti and pick up a 24 or 26" from newegg and get rid of this one
[06:20] <Roasted> HADES - I've tried that. I've done everything with the onboard profile settings with the colors. :(
[06:20] <tnoy_> sliderz: do lsmod and see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded, if it is, then c-a-backspace might work. (but I'm not 100% sure, its been a while since I've used an nvidia card)
[06:20] <sliderz> i had to activate it tnoy, restarting x now...see how it floats.
[06:21] <tiyowan> Roasted: Send it in to a service shop. You can't change the backlight bulb yourself. Could end up frying yourself.
 Too bad... looks like you get to buy yourself a Xmas present
[06:21] <Roasted> tiyowan - That's possible to change the bulb????
[06:21] <Roasted> is it likely to zap it back to white?
[06:21] <tiyowan> Roasted: Yes, it is.
[06:21] <Roasted> I wonder how much that'd run.
[06:22] <tiyowan> Roasted: $35 I think?
[06:22] <sliderz> it worked tnoy_, I appreciate that so very much.
[06:22] <arghh2d2> just tap it with a balpeen hammer ever so gingerly on the screen, that'll zap it!
 you can buy Cold Cathode Ray tubes... not sure where...
[06:22] <sliderz> i learned a few things before i gave up tho.. :D
[06:22] <tnoy_> sliderz: glad I could help :)
[06:22] <hanibana> hi :)
[06:22] <Roasted> tiyowan - is that something you REALLY need to take to a shop? I mean, I work on computers for a living... would a monitor be that different? :P
[06:23] <hanibana> I have a bad problem with my Ubuntu...
[06:23] <sliderz> Today is my first official step towards the linux path.....gonna be a long night
[06:23] <tiyowan> Roasted: Yes. It has 35,000 volts of current inside. Trust me. Opening one up can kill you.
[06:23] <ntndo> I've got lampp installed.  Apparently I can't copy a link to the htdocs folder to the desktop, even with su?
[06:23] <arghh2d2> you dont want anything to do with the gasses that are trapped inside a cathode monitor, really.
[06:23] <Roasted> tiyowan - welllllllll thats enough to convince me otherwise, thanks for the tip!
[06:23] <Roasted> tiyowan - I thought that was just CRTs... I didnt know LCDs were too
 oh you have a CRT?!? OK never mind...
[06:24] <Roasted> no, LCD's
[06:24] <micah_> anyone in here anygood with setting up bots
[06:24] <Roasted> both fo them are
[06:24] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:24] <tnoy_> a CRT isnt worth fixing
[06:24] <Roasted> it's not a CRT
[06:24] <tiyowan> Roasted: No problems. The two most common problems with LCDs are just that, busted backlights/inverters.
[06:24] <hothatch> so after a pacman -Syu I finally got the latest links
[06:24] <arghh2d2> heh, yeah, dont bother with a CRT Roasted
[06:24] <Roasted> tiyowan - does the "you might die if you open it" theory still apply to LCDs?
[06:25] <arghh2d2> crt's arent worht fixin
[06:25] <hanibana> sometimes when I'm away from my station, when returned and click one of my minimized windows on panel, that window wipes out ! but still running its process !
[06:25]  * tiyowan agrees with tnoy_
[06:25] <tiyowan> Roasted: Yes.
[06:25] <hothatch> ouch!
[06:25] <arghh2d2> Roasted: i wouldnt try to open a CRT if i wer you
[06:25] <fwaokda> Some of my fonts in firefox looked "effed" up -- how can I fix this?  It just doesn't look nice.  I noticed the main fonts do(what you see on the pages) yet the fonts within my buttons and stuff are cute short.  How can i fix this?
[06:25] <Roasted> Its not a CRT...
[06:25] <Roasted> Its an LCD..
[06:25] <hothatch> pacman -S msttcorefonts
[06:25] <arghh2d2> well dont go opening any crt's Roasted
[06:26] <Roasted> theres a 22" Acer that my mom just got off newegg... its pretty nice... its down to 170 now.
[06:26] <fwaokda> Roasted, i have that same one i believe it is nice
[06:26] <Flannel> Roasted: Might I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic?
[06:26] <ntndo> actually better question, how do I do a recursive chown
[06:26] <tiyowan> Roasted: Do what I do, just keeping buying CRTs.
[06:26] <gustavod> ntndo: -R
[06:26] <tnoy_> its probably a crappy TN panel though :(
[06:26] <ntndo> thx
[06:26] <Roasted> yeah, yeah, I hear all about the off topic thing.
[06:26] <gustavod> ntndo: np
[06:26] <ntndo> dammit I should know that
[06:26] <Roasted> kinda stupid I can't ask what I want
[06:27] <hothatch> lcd ftw
[06:27] <Flannel> Roasted: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general support, nor general Ubuntu.  Just Ubuntu support
[06:27] <Roasted> yeah, yeah, I hear ya
[06:27] <arghh2d2> Roasted: just dont bother tryin to fix a CRT
[06:27] <Gnea> Roasted: LCDs don't have the tube inside, so technically, it's safer. you might want to try #hardware
[06:27] <Roasted> arghh2d2 - I don't even have a CRT.
[06:27] <Gnea> arghh2d2: learn how to read: he said he has an LCD.
[06:27] <_jlb> Roasted, what do you have than?
[06:28] <Roasted> LCD
[06:28] <Roasted> jdlfk;ajsdkl;sa
[06:28] <MoLoot> Roasted: I wouldn't try taking apart a CRT tho.. ;-)
[06:28] <fushorts> is there a way to use two separate displays with two separate resolutions?
[06:28] <Roasted> yes
[06:28] <hanibana> any idea or experience?
[06:28] <Roasted> I'm doing it right now
[06:28] <woden> fushorts:  xrandr
[06:28] <arghh2d2> ahahah
[06:28] <MoLoot> fushorts: I am doing it at the moment
[06:28] <Roasted> 19 - 1440x900 + 22 1680x1050
[06:28] <Gnea> fushorts: as long as they're 2 different X sessions, yes
[06:28] <arghh2d2> i wouldnt do that if i wer you Roasted
[06:28] <Roasted> do what?
[06:28] <arghh2d2> open any crt's
[06:29] <Roasted> I dont have any CRTs!!!!!
[06:29] <Gnea> arghh2d2: stop.
[06:29] <tnoy_> lol
[06:29] <Gnea> Roasted: you too.
[06:29] <arghh2d2> ok, im done lmao
[06:29] <Roasted> me what?
[06:29] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:29] <MoLoot> fushorts: I use gnome and have monitor plugged into laptop and goto monitor resolution settings
[06:30] <fushorts> that is what i am trying to do but i am having some sort of problem and it just reset all of my gnome settings :(
[06:30] <Roasted> whats a good computer hardware channel?
[06:30] <Gnea> Roasted: #hardware
[06:30] <Roasted> hey thanks
[06:31] <raylu> onetinsoldier: no idea. but can't you just put it in your gnome session options?
[06:31] <fushorts> MoLoot, do i need a separate program for it?
[06:32] <hanibana> woden: you speak with me?
[06:32] <arghh2d2> i think starting it out minimized would involve a bunch of geometry syntax that i have no clue about...final answer.
[06:32] <woden> hanibana: Don't think so
[06:33] <hanibana> ok
[06:33] <mankash> how 2 network card in  a system work by default
[06:34] <tiyowan> mankash: Um, could you open up a terminal and type ifconfig?
[06:34] <arghh2d2> or a dos prompt
[06:34] <Gnea> arghh2d2: please remain on topic.
[06:34] <xjimx> Hi everyone, is there a way to boot into recovery mode and uninstall nvidia drivers?
[06:35] <arghh2d2> well i thought maybe he didnt know what a terminal was
[06:35] <Meshezabeel> is there any vm software installed by default under ubuntu?
[06:35] <Flannel> xjimx: you shouldn't have to reboot into recovery mode, just a terminal.  hit ctrl-alt-f1 and you'll get a TTY
[06:35] <gustavod> xjimx: the text mode consoles should be available to you. Can you try Control+Alt+F1?
[06:35] <Gnea> Meshezabeel: no.
[06:35] <tiyowan> Meshezabeel: Nope.
[06:36] <arghh2d2> c/a/f1 is usually x
[06:36] <Phantom__> how do i take a screen shot? print screen not workin
[06:36] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:36] <Meshezabeel> Gnea, tiyowan thanks :)
[06:36] <arghh2d2> try c/a/f2
[06:36] <raylu> !fr | mankash
[06:36] <lawstudent> I moved homes. I'm using the PC of my friend in one room. My Ubuntu box in my room can't get onto the internet. We're using a router. My friend's PC, which I'm using now,  has internet connection. My ubuntu box, even though I've connected another cable, doesn't have net connection, and even though wireless router's light on "Lan 2" is lit up, just like light for friend's PC on "LAN 4". Please advise.
[06:36] <schone> hey all - is there any video capture with sound programs with linux?
[06:36] <mankash> I have 2 seperate dhcp servers for both of these network cards, bit both are taking ipaddress from 1 server
[06:36] <tiyowan> Phantom__: Applications -> Accessories -> Take Screenshot?
[06:36] <lawstudent> accdng to ubuntu panel, "network connection applet" says "no connection". strange.
[06:36] <Meshezabeel> Can anyone recommend some good vm software to either run windows xp or vista from within ubuntu?
[06:36] <xjimx> I cant get to the comp right now, will write it down and try in the morning
[06:36] <Gnea> arghh2d2: no, f7 is X. please, get your facts straight before handing out advice.
[06:37] <gustavod> meshebazbeel: your best bets are VMware and xen
[06:37] <tiyowan> Meshezabeel: VMware, probably.
[06:37] <raylu> Meshezabeel: also, kvm and qemu
[06:37] <raylu> vmware isn't free
[06:37] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> your ubuntu box is using ethernet cabling?
[06:37] <gustavod> meshezabeel: both of which are free as in beer. VMware works dandy in linux.
[06:37] <Gnea> raylu: server is.
[06:37] <tnoy_> mankash: obvious question, are the dhcp servers bound to each specific interface?
[06:37] <Phantom__> tiyowan: but that wont work with something is showing while clicking it
[06:37] <arghh2d2> Gnea: i thought the buntu login screen was launched from f1
[06:37] <gustavod> meshezabeel: bleh, it's free as in beer.
[06:37] <raylu> Gnea: really? since when?
[06:37] <Gnea> arghh2d2: it resides on F7.
[06:37] <mankash> yes
[06:38] <Gnea> raylu: since over a year ago.
[06:38] <lawstudent> n8tuser: yes. my ubuntu box is using  wired ethernet cabling. (so is friend's Win XP box)
[06:38] <gustavod> it's been free as in beer for years
[06:38] <tiyowan> Phantom__: Um, I'm sorry, I didn't understand that very well.
[06:38] <gustavod> at least 2 years
[06:38] <Meshezabeel> okay, haha, thanks gustavod, tiyowan, and raylu
[06:38] <arghh2d2> Gnea, where does it lanch from?
[06:38] <hothatch> wine is good
[06:38] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> and both are connected to same router  on the lan ports ?
[06:38] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:38] <tiyowan> mankash: Go to a terminal and type ifconfig.
[06:38] <mankash> i already did
[06:38] <whynot> hello.  I have a question.  I have a network between my ubuntu machine and win xp laptop.  I can access ubuntu from laptop but not vice versa.  I see laptop computer in my ubuntu machine but when I try to access the share folder of laptop, there is nothing.  What should I do?
[06:39] <Gnea> arghh2d2: I suggest you go to http://help.ubuntu.com and follow some links and read up on things.
[06:39] <mankash> they have ip address from same router
[06:39] <tiyowan> mankash: Do you see both of your LAN cards?
[06:39] <Gnea> arghh2d2: most basic questions, as well as others, are already answered there.
[06:39]  * Panarchy says Hi
[06:39] <mankash> yes
[06:39] <lawstudent> n8tuser: yes both are connected to the one and the same dell wireless router.
[06:39] <Panarchy> Repeat question
[06:39] <lawstudent> n8tuser: ubuntu box is on "LAN 1". Friend's WinXP comp is on "LAN 4" port.
[06:39] <arghh2d2> i guess if you have a desktop manager installed it launches from f7 and x then starts on f7?
[06:39] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> ok, does your ubuntu have an ip address assigned by the dell router?
[06:40] <Gnea> arghh2d2: don't guess. know.
[06:40] <christopher> Hey there.
[06:40] <gustavod> mankash: are the two separate DHCP servers or isolated ethernet segments? How do you ensure each card gets a reply from a specific DHCP server?
[06:40] <hothatch> yoda
[06:40] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> and you are sure lan 1 port is working? you tried lan 2 port? or 3 ?
[06:40] <raylu> Gnea: i think it's only free as in beer
[06:40] <arghh2d2> Gnea: it'd be so much easier if you would just answer my ubuntu question here in #ubuntu.
[06:40] <Panarchy> Does anyone know how to remove all packages from ubuntu except 'english language', internet capabilities & apt?
[06:41] <hothatch> so if X launches from f7, where do the virtual terminals from f1 thru f6 launch?
[06:41] <gustavod> mankash: there's nothing the DHCP client can do here. It broacasts a DHCP request and gets the first answer it can.
[06:41] <lawstudent> n8tuser: according to the web config status of dell router, the router can only "see" my friend's WinXP comp
[06:41] <Gnea> raylu: I suggest you visit www.vmware.com and find out for sure.
[06:41] <lawstudent> n8tuser: i've tried lan2.
[06:41] <mankash> bcos cards are speratley connected to routers
[06:41] <Panarchy> gustavid: I guess set it as default gateway
[06:41] <tiyowan> mankash: I think you can get a workable setup by putting one interface *down* while the other one is up.
[06:41] <lawstudent> n8tuser: to make sure, I'll make WinXP comp use LAN 1
[06:41] <arghh2d2> i came here to ask a question about ubuntu, not ask someone to use google for me
[06:41] <Panarchy> Does anyone know how to remove all packages from ubuntu except 'english language', internet capabilities & apt?
[06:41] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> so i suspect your cable towards your ubuntu is bad, and or your ubuntu nic card is bad?  you can not get an ip address?
[06:41] <tnoy_> vmware player and vmware server are free to download and use.
[06:41] <hothatch> Panarchy: use a server install disk
[06:42] <Panarchy> I've tried using the alternate disc
[06:42] <Panarchy> What does the server install disc contain?
[06:42] <Gnea> arghh2d2: then use google for yourself. all I've seen out of you is disinformation. we don't need that.
[06:42] <lawstudent> n8tuser: "ubuntu nic card"? what is that?
[06:42] <hothatch> the server disk contains very litte
[06:42] <whynot> let me know how to restart samba
[06:42] <Panarchy> NIC: Network interface card
[06:42] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:42] <lawstudent> n8tuser: in my previous home, my ubuntu box's wired internet was working fine
[06:42] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> thats the network interface card
[06:43] <Gnea> whynot: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Panarchy: The alternate install CD didn't let you do a minimal enough install?
[06:43] <whynot> thanks Gnea
[06:43] <hothatch> enough to get you into a CLI.  Itll install a bunch of stuff too but itll be easier to clean out the fluff
[06:43] <lawstudent> n8tuser: ok. I do NOT think my UBuntu nic card is bad. Ubuntu nic card was working just fine in previous home.
[06:43] <tnoy_> mankash: what happens when you disable the dhcp server that is handing the ip addresses to both machines? Do one/both grab an IP address from the other dhcp server?
[06:43] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> how about the cable? how long is that?
[06:43] <Panarchy> Jordan_U... seems everything is still there
[06:43] <raylu> Gnea: i did
[06:43] <Panarchy> like GNOME and that
[06:43] <arghh2d2> will someone using a standar *ubuntu install please hit ctrl+alt+F1 and tell me what they see?  dont forget hitting ctrl+alt+F7 brings you back to X (gui)
[06:43] <lawstudent> n8tuser: 15-20 feet
[06:43] <lawstudent> n8tuser: it was working fine before
[06:43] <bazhang> arghh2d2, what is the point of that exercise
[06:43] <Panarchy> and GIMP is still there
[06:43] <tritium> arghh2d2: that would take you to the first virtual console
[06:44] <Phantom__> what other program can i use instead of gimp? a simpler one
[06:44] <lawstudent> n8tuser: could it be a ubuntu  issue (a software issue on my ubuntu box)?
[06:44] <bazhang> arghh2d2, its very clear what it does.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> Panarchy: That is only if you follow the default install, I haven't used the alternate CD in a while but it should give you the option of doing a minimal install, there is also the minimal install CD
[06:44] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> it could have been working at the other home, but by moving around, it could have slipped, reseat it again?  turn power off before doing such ok
[06:44] <hothatch> I see TTY1
[06:44] <Gnea> arghh2d2: that's the regular virtual console, tty1
[06:44] <arghh2d2> ok, i didnt know.
[06:44] <Panarchy> I want to REMOVE EVERYTHING other than network capabilities, apt and a terminal interface
[06:44] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Panarchy
[06:44] <lawstudent> n8tuser: what could have physicaly slipped?
[06:44] <Gnea> arghh2d2: what version of ubuntu are you using right now?
[06:44] <bazhang> Panarchy, no need for caps, get the minimal installer
[06:44] <lawstudent> i'll go to the ubuntu box room and try
[06:44] <Panarchy> Hmm...
[06:44] <arghh2d2> Gnea: 7.10
[06:44] <hothatch> Im using warty
[06:44] <gustavod> arghh2d2: you should see a 'login' prompt as provided by /sbin/mingetty, right?
[06:45] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> dont know, it may be loose connection?
[06:45] <Panarchy> 9.9MB
[06:45] <Panarchy> YAY
[06:45] <Panarchy> Thanks
[06:45] <arghh2d2> i'm just trying to figure out how gdm works
[06:45] <Gnea> arghh2d2: you should consider upgrading to 8.04, at the very least.
[06:45] <tnoy_> Panarchy: Just use denian if you want something that is minimal
[06:45] <Panarchy> Think that's what I'm looking for
[06:45] <gustavod> arghh2d2: check your /etc/inittab, that should give you a feel for what's listening on each tty
[06:45] <Panarchy> 9.9MB
[06:45] <bazhang> Panarchy, please dont use enter as punctuation
[06:45] <Panarchy> What's denian?
[06:45] <arghh2d2> Gnea: the secret to ubuntu is stay two steps behind the current "stable" version
[06:45] <onetinsoldier> Panarchy: he typo'd... Debian
[06:46] <Panarchy> ah
[06:46] <hothatch> or Arch, or Slitaz
[06:46] <tnoy_> oops, i ment to type debian.
[06:46] <hothatch> or LFS
[06:46] <Panarchy> I'll still have a look at the minimal ubuntu and see what I can do
[06:46] <Panarchy> if I fail
[06:46] <Panarchy> Then I'll try with another distro
[06:46] <Panarchy> like debian
[06:46] <FloodBot3> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[06:46] <whynot> Let me ask you one more thing.  Big company, corportates use linux samba for their server?
[06:46] <Gnea> arghh2d2: it's a display manager: it starts up X and handles user assignments. like when you bootup windows XP and it allows you to choose from several different accounts to login with.
[06:46] <Jordan_U> hothatch: Why are you using warty?
[06:47] <woden> In "System --> Preferences --> Session", how do you set a program to start minimized?
[06:47] <whynot> Samba seems to be unstable. and picky.
[06:47] <Gnea> arghh2d2: that's fine
[06:47] <Panarchy> Aw man
[06:47] <arghh2d2> Gnea: ever wonder what percentage of #ubuntu questions start out "i just upgraded and now i cant..." and end with "...it used to work on old version"
[06:47] <Gnea> whynot: works fine here, perhaps you broke something
[06:47] <Panarchy> 5 min till finished downloading
[06:47] <hothatch> Thats what I installed long ago and it works
[06:47] <Panarchy> Wait... DownThemAll! Yes, getting good speeds now
[06:47] <hothatch> its a nostalgia thing
[06:47] <Panarchy> 2 min left
[06:47] <Panarchy> Thanks GUYS
[06:47] <Panarchy> cya
[06:47] <Gnea> arghh2d2: ever wonder how problems get fixed in the first place?
[06:47]  * Panarchy goes!
[06:47] <FloodBot3> Panarchy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <whynot> Gnea/what I have done is backup and restoration.  Using clonezilla.  That's all.
[06:48] <hothatch> I solve problems
[06:48] <bullgard4> woden: Use the program devilspie.
[06:48] <hothatch> with my mind bullets
[06:48] <bazhang> hothatch, please chat elsewhere
[06:48] <Gnea> arghh2d2: but that's understandable, we do our best to make a solid system. thank you. :)
[06:48] <arghh2d2> Gnea: ahhh, so user frustration is small price to pay for development?  i suspected as much.
[06:48] <lawstudent> n8tuser: do i have to enter a MAC address on ubuntu box?
[06:48] <arghh2d2> no, dont get me wrong...
[06:48] <bazhang> arghh2d2, do you have a support question?
[06:48] <arghh2d2> ubuntu is great and i'm really glad yall do what you do...PROPS
[06:49] <axisys> how do I tell ubuntu to boot w/o any X?
[06:49] <n8tuser> lawstudent-> nope, thats taken care of by the driver usually,  do you see green light on your ubuntu nic card?
[06:49] <Gnea> arghh2d2: the only people who get paid to do it are with conanical. everyone else spends their own free time on it. it works.
[06:49] <hothatch> why? whats wrong with warty?
[06:49] <tiyowan> Gnea: I've got two linux partitions. One for / and one for /home. If I back up the entire / partition, then if I restore, I'll have a working system right?
[06:49] <n8tuser> axisys-> go to single user mode?
[06:49] <arghh2d2> Gnea: dont worry, your secrets safe with me.
[06:49] <Gnea> tiyowan: only if you told your backup program to include other filesystems.
[06:49] <tritium> axisys: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start (the update-rc.d method)
[06:49] <woden> bullgard4:  Why do I need a program to do that?  Can't I do it from Sessions?
[06:50] <Demetrius> hello :)
[06:50] <axisys> n8tuser: single user mode give me no network
[06:50] <Gnea> secret? LOL
[06:50] <axisys> tritium: i have no shell yet.. how would I run update-rc.d ?
[06:50] <tiyowan> Gnea: Hmm, could you kindly recommend a good backup application for using with Ubuntu?
[06:50] <tritium> axisys: no shell?  What do you have, exactly?
[06:50] <Gnea> tiyowan: sure. local or network based?
[06:50] <n8tuser> axisys-> well, you can disable  gdm from starting
[06:50] <tiyowan> Gnea: local, please.
[06:50] <axisys> tritium: i just installed ubuntu
[06:51] <axisys> n8tuser: how?
[06:51] <hothatch> I like the dd if=/dev/(your hard drive) of=/dev/null  backs up great!
[06:51] <Gnea> tiyowan: target medium?
[06:51] <axisys> tritium: i just installed ubuntu.. have not been to login to it yet
[06:51] <tiyowan> Gnea: External HD or possibly CDs as well.
[06:51] <tritium> axisys: then you can open a terminal, or switch to a virtual console, and use update-rc.d
[06:51] <n8tuser> axisys-> have you even tried to google for such info ? do some leg work ..
[06:51] <Gnea> !backup | tiyowan
[06:51] <Gnea> tiyowan: check the 2nd and 3rd links
[06:51] <axisys> n8tuser: thnx
[06:52] <tiyowan> Gnea: Thank you very much. :)
[06:52] <Gnea> tiyowan: cheers
[06:52] <axisys> tritium: i tried switching to virtual console using ctrl-atl-F1
[06:52] <axisys> tritium: did not work
[06:52] <bullgard4> woden: Your window manager Metacity is only a minimalistic program. It has not enough functionality.
[06:52] <tritium> axisys: from the login manager?
[06:53] <woden> bullgard4:  I looked at devilspie, looks to complicated for me.
[06:53] <axisys> tritium: yes
[06:54] <bullgard4> woden: I hope that you have the opportunity to visit a local computer club and get help there.
[06:54] <tritium> axisys: that's bizarre.  However, you can do the same from a terminal after you log in.
[06:54] <woden> bullgard4:  Huh?
[06:54] <axisys> tritium: i am failing to login
[06:54] <ce_cute> hy
[06:54] <ce_cute> \
[06:55] <Demetrius> hi :)...non1 answered my hello yet
[06:55] <bullgard4> woden: I do not understand your question "Huh?". Please use Standard English.
[06:55] <ocRob> hello
[06:55] <sliderz> Hello.
[06:55] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[06:55] <Demetrius> :)
[06:55] <ocRob> Huh probably means idkwtf
[06:55] <tritium> axisys: using the username/password of the user account you setup during install?
[06:56] <Cody_> Hrrm.... first time using XChat on Ubuntu, sorry about the 2 connections
[06:56] <x[Mop]x> Hey I installed kde-nightly on ubuntu then un-installed it, and now my Wifi is GONE! No icon in the top panel! What can I do to get it back?
[06:57] <lawstudent> n8tuser: interestinngly enough. there is no green light on my ubuntu nic card. In my previous home, I remember seeing a green light.
[06:57] <bullgard4> ocRob: I do not understand your "idkwtf" either. Please use Standard English.
[06:57] <Demetrius> I need a smoke...this is so way over my head :)
[06:57] <tiyowan> lawstudent: I'm sorry, I missed the beginning of the discussion. What seems to be the problem?
[06:58] <lawstudent> tiyowan:  I moved homes. I'm using the PC of my friend in one room. My Ubuntu box in my room can't get onto the internet. We're using a router. My friend's PC, which I'm using now, has internet connection. My ubuntu box, even though I've connected another cable, doesn't have net connection, and even though wireless router's light on "Lan 1" is lit up, just like light for friend's PC on "LAN 4".
[06:58] <lawstudent> According to ubuntu panel, "network connection applet" says "no connection".  iinterestinngly enough. there is no green light on my ubuntu nic card. In my previous home, I remember seeing a green light.
[06:58] <woden> bullgard4:  You do not make sense.  What else would "Huh?" mean?  Sheesh, get off your high horse.
[06:58] <tiyowan> lawstudent: You're trying to connect wirelessly from your ubuntu box right?
[06:58] <ocRob> yeah c'mon everyone knows 'idkwtf'
[06:58] <binarymutant> "huh" is in the english dictionary...
[06:58] <tritium> ocRob: enough
[06:59] <Demetrius> An1 wanna  take time out to talk to a computer idioit?
[06:59] <lawstudent> tiyowan: no. WIRED.
[06:59] <ocRob> k sorry :P
[06:59] <sliderz> Sure, but it will be the blind leading the blind
[06:59] <lawstudent> tiyowan: wired ethernet cable.
[06:59] <nick|work> anybody experienced some problem with python-mechanize package at ubuntu repositories?
[06:59] <Mad_Wifi_er> Question: when setting up Ubuntu as a wireless AP, how to set up /etc/network/interfaces to enable WEP? I'm using Madwifi.
[06:59] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Okay. Are you using 8.10?
[06:59] <Fezzler> Meshezabeel: I just deleted old print driver and created new one and wireless printing works!
[06:59] <sliderz> lawstudent, do you have a network connection icon by your clock:?
[07:00] <lawstudent> tiyowan: yes, ubuntu is 8.10 gnome
[07:00] <Demetrius> @ lawstudent...what's the difference between unlawful and illegal?
[07:00] <tritium> Demetrius: stay on topic, please
[07:00] <lawstudent> sliderz: yes. network connection icon is there, but it says "no connection" or something to that effect.
[07:00] <bullgard4> Demetrius: Stop trolling.
[07:00] <Gnea> Demetrius: please keep questions on topic.
[07:00] <lawstudent> Demetrius: sorry. busy now.
[07:00] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Okay...could you please go to System -> Administration and open up Network tools.
[07:00] <Demetrius> sorry
[07:00] <idejmcd> anyone here a user of audible.com? i'm trying to get their drm files to work in ubuntu
[07:00] <sliderz> lawstudent, have you right clicked on it, made sure it is enabled/set for dhcp?
[07:00] <lawstudent> tiyowan: ok. one sec as i go to the room with my ubuntu box. will be back in 10 seconds
[07:01] <lawstudent> sliderz: i'll do that now, too!
[07:01] <lawstudent> brb
[07:01] <tiyowan> lawstudent: What I need you to do is to open up a terminal and type "ping 192.168.1.1"
[07:01] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[07:02] <Demetrius> wish i had something to contribute
[07:02] <tnoy_> TP = Twisted Pair, no idea about MII, though, sorry
[07:02] <lawstudent> sliderz: yes. it was DHPC . and it was DHPC automatic.
[07:02] <lawstudent> tiyowan: i've now opened up Network tools. I will now go back to ubuntu box and do the ping command
[07:03] <idejmcd>  anyone here a user of audible.com? i'm trying to get their drm files to work in ubuntu
[07:03] <Gnea> !dhcp
[07:03] <Demetrius> Windows depresses me, and I want to install Ubuntu...but I'm afraid it won't recognise my MB and other integrated stuff
[07:03] <idejmcd> it will
[07:03] <tnoy_> lawstudent: have you checked the output of ethtool? does it report having a proper link?
[07:03] <Gnea> !wubi | Demetrius
[07:04] <lawstudent> tiyowan: is 192.168.1.1 supposed to be the router IP? coz my dell router's webconfig page says router ip is "192.168.2.1".
[07:04] <axisys> thanks to both tritium and n8tuser, i pick the recovery mode / single user and then followed the link http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[07:04] <Gnea> Demetrius: try wubi out then :)
[07:04] <lawstudent> tnoy_: how can i tell if it has a proper link.
[07:04] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Ah yes. :-) Then ping that, please.
[07:04] <axisys> now i can boot and it does not start X
[07:04] <axisys> awesome!
[07:04] <lawstudent> tiyowan: i'll try the 2.1 address. brb
[07:04] <tritium> axisys: good deal
[07:04] <idejmcd>  i'm trying to get their drm files to work in ubuntu
[07:04] <tnoy_> lawstudent: You'll see "Link detected: Yes" at the bottom of ethtool's output
[07:04] <idejmcd> and having no luck
[07:04] <Demetrius> thx 4 the tip...I'm a complete idiot here...I just stumbled upon this forum ok?
[07:05] <Phantom__> when i install a program where is it saved?
[07:05] <Gnea> Demetrius: everyone starts somewhere
[07:05] <sliderz> lawstudent is the router secured?
[07:05] <Phantom__> so i can create a shortcut, since its not showing in the applicartions/internet
[07:05] <x[Mop]x> Hey guys, the wireless icon in the top panel has disappeared... How can I get it back?
[07:05] <Flannel> Phantom__: type 'which program' where program is the name of it
[07:05] <idejmcd> am i gonna get ignored all night?
[07:05] <Gnea> Phantom__: depends on the program, but most of the main ones wind up in /usr/bin
[07:05] <Flannel> Phantom__: Or, the nameof the binary that is
[07:05] <Phantom__> kvirc
[07:06] <tritium> !patience | idejmcd
[07:06] <Psi-Jack> Okay, does anyone here know much about PulseAudio and it's esound compatability?
[07:06] <whynot> Samba fails to mount winxp network shared folder, what should I do?
[07:06] <n2diy> Flannel, are you concious and alert?
[07:06] <Gnea> idejmcd: only if you're disrespectful.
[07:06] <tritium> Phantom__: further, if you only know the package name, "dpkg -L <packagename>" will list all the files in that package.
[07:06] <x[Mop]x> And I can still see my wireless thing in iwconfig
[07:06] <tnoy_> whynot: how are you trying to mount it?
[07:06] <Flannel> n2diy: Er, sure?
[07:07] <mb_> hello
[07:07] <mb_> having osme wireless issues
[07:07] <whynot> gnome, network.
[07:07] <rs-friends> when i type alsamixer i do get a error no mixer  elems found and when i start volum controll i do get a error there 2 what can i do?
[07:07] <idejmcd> ubutto: my attitude is fine, i just wanted to be acknowledged, saying there is no answer right now is better than not getting a response
[07:07] <mb_> for some reason, i am able to connect using wifi-radar
[07:07] <Demetrius> Great dtuff guys...lots of info here thx :)
[07:07] <mb_> yet i can not get any thing over port 80
[07:07] <idejmcd> ill check that link, thank you
[07:07] <Flannel> idejmcd: Do you really want 1300 people telling you that they don't know?
[07:07] <idejmcd> hahaha
[07:08] <lawstudent> tiyowan: when i did "ping 192.168.2.1", terminal says "Network unreachable"
[07:08] <idejmcd> well played flannal
[07:08] <idejmcd> i'll keep that in mind next time
[07:08] <Demetrius> I'm a horrible typist...
[07:08] <tiyowan> lawstudent: That means that your Ubuntu box can't communicate with your router.
[07:08] <lawstudent> sliderz: it's wired connection. anyway, the wired connection needs no password.
[07:08] <rs-friends> when i type alsamixer i do get a error no mixer  elems found and when i start volum controll i do get a error there 2 what can i do?
[07:08] <lawstudent> tnoy_: i'll check now
[07:08] <sliderz> lawstudent try his cord/port...
[07:08] <lawstudent> sliderz: what?
[07:08] <sliderz> bad cord maybe?
[07:09] <lawstudent> tiyowan: why can't it? This was the same router I was using in my previous home. 8-(
[07:09] <mb_> test the cable on another machine
[07:09] <sliderz> ive saw bad switches....cords..etc
[07:09] <rs-friends> when i type alsamixer i do get a error no mixer  elems found and when i start volum controll i do get a error there 2 what can i do?
[07:09] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Please type ifconfig and verify whether your ethernet card is up. Look for "eth0 UP"
[07:09] <mb_> or hook it up to your handy continuity checker
[07:09] <Gnea> !sound | rs-friends
[07:09] <whynot> Win xp grab ubuntu shared folder, but not ubuntu.
[07:09] <mb_> any one that can answer a wireless question foe me?
[07:09] <Demetrius> Has ubuntu good audio and video qualities?...I'd hate to lose Windows MovieMaker...it's so easy to follow
[07:10] <tiyowan> !multimedia | Demetrius
[07:10] <Gnea> mb_: anyone can, everyone probably can't, somebody might and nobody will, unless you tell us what the problem is.
[07:10] <lawstudent> tiyowan: I did 'ifconfig". I don't see "eth0 up".
[07:10] <sliderz> What is the best way to configure my AC97 audio in u8.10?
[07:10] <lawstudent> I see eth0 lines but no UP in etho
[07:10] <lawstudent> eth0
[07:10] <mb_> Gnea, that's what I was waiting for, some one to acknowledge
[07:10] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Bingo.
[07:11] <mb_> I am having issues with port 80 traffic
[07:11] <lawstudent> tiyowan: did my nic card break in the move?
[07:11] <lawstudent> I was very careful with  my computer
[07:11] <mb_> for a ocuple of days, ubuntu puked on my wireless
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> lawstudent: what happens if you do sudo ifup eth0
[07:11] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Hang on, lemme find the command.
[07:11] <mb_> i just tried wifi-radar and it got me connected again
[07:11] <mb_> however, i can not do any thing on port 80
[07:11] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Type what onetinsoldier wrote.
[07:11] <Demetrius> You guys are on a faster connection...or you are wizards at the keyboard...please be patient with my replies...thank you :)
[07:11] <lawstudent> onetinsoldier: ( tiyowan): ok. will be right back.
[07:11] <mb_> i use firestarter as a firewall. do i need to clear some rules?
[07:12] <mb_> and if so, what is the cmd?
[07:12] <ziroday> mb_: why are you using a firewall?
[07:12] <n2diy> Flannel, ok, 8 hours ago I was trying to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper, but I was interrupted by an Xmas party, now I'm back, semi-concious and semi-alert. The upgrade didn't work. Apt-get found nothing to upgrade, and withheld cpp, and cpp-4.0?
[07:12] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[07:12] <mb_> ziroday, why use a condom?
[07:13] <Kattollikisd> can someone tell my why I am banned for #ubuntu-es :(
[07:13] <Flannel> Kattollikisd: #ubuntu-irc is the place for that
[07:13] <whynot> I'll reboot winxp laptop and ubuntu desktop, both.  I hope it's gonna work for me.
[07:13] <mb_> :/
[07:13] <Flannel> n2diy: Alright.  pastebin your sources.list, and the output to apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop libc6
[07:13] <mb_> ok, so instead of kicking me and giving me a bad ompression about #ubuntu
[07:13] <Demetrius> I need an absolute idiot's guide to learn about ubuntu...please tell me where I can learn that...and I'll leave you all in peace...thank you :)
[07:14] <mb_> why not ask me a few questions about my issue
[07:14] <tiyowan> Demetrius: help.ubuntu.com
[07:14] <lawstudent> tiyowan, onetinsoldier. sorry, when i went back to my ubuntu box, i DID see the "up" line in ifconfig. it was something like "UP MULTI BROADCAST" or something like that.
[07:14] <Flannel> Demetrius: help.ubuntu.com
[07:14] <vlacki> hello guys
[07:14] <ziroday> mb_: unless you are server or in a seriously dangerous environment you don't need a firewall. Having one and not knowing how it works or how to configure it will do more harm then good
[07:14] <vlacki> any1 knows how to see how much RAM i have?
[07:14] <vlacki> im using ubuntu 8.04.1
[07:14] <bazhang> !iptables | mb_
[07:14] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Okay. So your ethernet card is working. Your router is working. But your card can't talk to your router.
[07:14] <dr_willis> vlacki,  the 'free' command is handy
[07:14] <ziroday> vlacki: free -m
[07:14] <lawstudent> tiyowan: onetinsoldier: anyway, when i did sudo ifup eth0, it said "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0".
[07:14] <mb_> ziroday, i've been using firestarter with ubuntu for over 3 years, don't start with me.
[07:14] <mb_> 6.06 mf.
[07:14] <Demetrius> thx tiyowan :)...bye folks :)
[07:15] <lawstudent> tiyowan: that is strange. because it's the same router i used in my previous home.
[07:15] <bazhang> mb_, please check the links
[07:15] <Flannel> mb_: Please watch your language.  This is a family friendly channel.
[07:15] <n2diy> Flannel, , is "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop libc6" a channel?
[07:15] <onetinsoldier> lawstudent: roger.. i recommend using the 'iptraf' (you'll need to install it) utility and watch is closely when you try to ping your router
[07:15] <onetinsoldier> is = it
[07:15] <mb_> ubottu, i would check the links if I COULD DO ANY THING OVER PORT 80!!!
[07:15] <Flannel> n2diy: command? yes.  pastebin its output
[07:15] <mb_> that's my problem
[07:15] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Perhaps you've got a bad cable?
[07:15] <tritium> mb_: calm down!
[07:15] <Mad_Wifi_er> Cannot enable WEP on my Ubuntu wireless access point... anybody who knows "/etc/network/interfaces" got a moment?
[07:15] <n2diy> Flannel, 10-4
[07:16] <mb_> i am using port 6667 for irc and that seems to work fine
[07:16] <lawstudent> tiyowan: if it's bad, then why does my dell router light up when the cable is plugged to the ubuntu box?
[07:16] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: you've read the manpage for "wireless"?
[07:16] <pescado> hmmm
[07:16] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Follow onetinsoldier's advice as well.
[07:16] <sliderz> law, try cable on win pc
[07:16] <lawstudent> onetinsoldier: tiyowan: can't install stuff because no internet connection
[07:16] <ziroday> mb_: do you still have the issue if firestarter and the firestarter daemon are disabled?
[07:17] <raylu> onetinsoldier: "no idea. but can't you just put it in your gnome session options?"
[07:17] <onetinsoldier> lawstudent: however, if you use iptraf you might not see much more than desttination unreachable.. but you never now
[07:17] <lawstudent> sliderz: that's an idea.
[07:17] <onetinsoldier> know*
[07:17] <mb_> ziroday, let me kiil them and try and find out
[07:17] <raylu> onetinsoldier: you asked me something an hour or more ago; that was my response
[07:17] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Hmm, sliderz <-
[07:17] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: yes, it's very brief
[07:17] <ubuntu__> I Need help im trying to install ubuntu 8.10 and i am manually resizing the partitions when i click forward i get error saying "No root file system is defined. please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[07:17] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Check out the cable on a WinPC.
[07:17] <raylu> ubuntu__: could you take a screenshot of your current layout?
[07:17] <lawstudent> sliderz: ( tiyowan) but the problem is that the cable goes through some floors. and to remove the cable completely is tedious. but maybe I should do that.
[07:17] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger.. i was just trying to confirm for someone that wes here earlier using 8.04.. can you do that same thing in 8.04? just wondering
[07:18] <Flannel> ubuntu__: Do you have one partition you're creating for /?
[07:18] <vlacki> tnx people
[07:18] <vlacki> tnx a lot !
[07:18] <raylu> onetinsoldier: system > preferences > sessions? i believe so
[07:18] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Hmmm, unplug the cable. Do you have any spare cable handy?
[07:18] <ubuntu__> raylu:  its you i was talking to you like 3 hourse ago ya ill take a screen shot ill do i send it to you
[07:18] <btoogood> hi there
[07:18] <sliderz> the cable is your enemy.
[07:18] <mb_> ziroday, what would be a command to clear ip_tables?
[07:18] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger... thanks, pretty easy there! nice. i'm used to plain old debian
[07:18] <bidossessi> what command can i use to list my inputs in a shell?
[07:18] <eweb100> Does anyone know how to extend your desktop to your 2d monoter in Xubuntu?!?!?
[07:18] <rkhessel> another quick wireless question, do I need to apt get a package to get broadcom cutter?
[07:18] <bidossessi> what command can i use to list my sound inputs in a shell?
[07:19] <tnoy_> lawstudent: if you have a link-light on both the switch/router and the back of the network card, then its generally safe to assume that the cable is ok
[07:19] <ubuntu__> raylu:  how do i send you a screen shot
[07:19] <sliderz> eweb what vid card
[07:19] <raylu> ubuntu__: tinypic.com, imageshack.com, etc.
[07:19] <mb_> ziroday, seems not to have any affect with firestarter being shut down
[07:19] <ubuntu__> Flannel:  what do you mean
[07:19] <tiyowan> tnoy_: He can't ping his router. :/
[07:19] <eweb100> sliderz: radion 1550
[07:19] <raylu> ubuntu__: also, consider changing your /nick
[07:19] <ubuntu__> raylu:  whats that
[07:19] <raylu> tiyowan: that could be because of the router's configuration
[07:19] <n2diy> ! pastebin
[07:19] <raylu> ubuntu__: places to upload pictures
[07:19] <ziroday> mb_: If firestarter is stopped then it is not a firewall issue, unless you have more then one firewall going...
[07:19] <whynot> Win xp can access ubuntu shared folder, but ubuntu can not.  It hurts me.
[07:19] <Flannel> ubuntu__: You said you were resizing partitions, were you making any new ones?
[07:19] <mb_> ziroday, not that I know of
[07:20] <tiyowan> raylu: Excellent point. :-) Need coffee.
[07:20] <ubuntu__> Flannel:  yes
[07:20] <tnoy_> tiyowan: well, if the nic isnt getting an IP address or is down, then you're not going to ping it..
[07:20] <mb_> ziroday, what could it be then?
[07:20] <mb_> wireless works, but just not port 80!
[07:20] <nice_burger> linode users? does a fresh install of intrepid ibex include iptables?
[07:20] <Flannel> ubuntu__: And one of the ones you were making, did you indicate that it was going to be used as "/"?
[07:20] <Flannel> nice_burger: Yes
[07:20] <ubuntu__> Flannel:  no
[07:20] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Could you unplug the cable which is going from your ubuntu box into your router and plug it into the jack in which the cable from your Windows box is plugged?
[07:20] <ubuntu__> do i make it a EXT3
[07:20] <Flannel> ubuntu__: Are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[07:21] <ubuntu__> Flannel:  yes do i make it ext3
[07:21] <aman> hey Acedip
[07:21] <Flannel> ubuntu__: Yeah, ext3, and marked as /
[07:21] <raylu> ubuntu__: not that you should also have a swap partition
[07:21] <Flannel> ubuntu__: the "/" location is called "root", which is the error it was giving you.
[07:21] <ubuntu__> raylu: Flannel whats a swap partision
[07:21] <tiyowan> tnoy_ & raylu: Perhaps the router isn't configured to hand out more than one ip?
[07:21] <nice_burger> see, i'm using a slicehost article to set up an ubuntu on linode, and wondering if slicehost adds some things (like iptables) that don't come with by default
[07:22] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: the man page for wireless points me to /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools ... which is all greek to me
[07:22] <ubuntu__> Flannel:  it worked thank you whats a swap partion
[07:22] <lawstudent> tiyowan: i'll try something else: I'll use my portable Eee PC on both cables (the cable connecting the WinXP and the cable connecting the Ubuntu box)
[07:22] <ubuntu__> Flannel: partition
[07:22] <raylu> !swap | ubuntu__
[07:22] <lawstudent> tnoy_: yeah, no light at the ubuntu box nic card.
[07:22] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: why are you not using network-manager?
[07:22] <error404notfound> I have a WD 500G SATA2, I have made lvm on it, when I try to format LVs on it, I get http://pastebin.com/m3620ac67 on my tty1 and screen is filled with it, but it stops once the format process is complete. I have even tried jumpering the 1.5Ghz to enable the support for old chipsets, no use. I haven't tested if the same messages appear if I create a partition on it and format it instead of lvm
[07:22] <tiyowan> lawstudent: No light on your nic? Hmmm....
[07:22] <ziroday> nice_burger: you do know that there are #linode channels here and on oftc right?
[07:23] <ubuntu__> raylu:  no swarp partition whats that
[07:23] <lawstudent> tiyowan: i've tried your idea. no go.
[07:23] <raylu> ubuntu__: ...that's what it is
[07:23] <mb_> gah! i cna even check my email but no port 80 traffic!
[07:23] <raylu> ubuntu__: again, please use /nick
[07:23] <ubuntu__> raylu:  so what does it do whats the point of doing it
[07:23] <tnoy_> lawstudent: try this, "sudo ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.2.100" then "sudo route add default gw 192.168.2.1" I'm assuming the gateway is infact 192.168.2.1 here, then try to ping 192.168.2.1
[07:23] <raylu> ubuntu__: click the link?
[07:23] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: you mean from the GUI? I'm just using the command line
[07:23] <onetinsoldier> if i put in a music cd and use rhythmbox, add songs to the play queue and then play the queue, then it seems i need to close out rhythmbox beofre i can play songs from the cd again. is it a bug?
[07:23] <tiyowan> lawstudent: That would seem to suggest your router config is ok. Something's up with your nic. The light should be on. Try tnoy_'s suggestion.
[07:23] <Flannel> WHY: Your computer uses it to have "more" RAM than you physically have.
[07:23] <nice_burger> ziroday: thought the light looked brighter over here
[07:24] <WHY> raylu:  LMAO LOOK AT MY NAME
[07:24] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: /etc/network/interfaces, as indicated from the "wireless" manpage, can understand iwconfig directives
[07:24] <raylu> onetinsoldier: check the bug tracker
[07:24] <tnoy_> lawstudent: few network cards do not have a link light, if you don't get one then the cable is likely bad
[07:24] <raylu> WHY: ...
[07:24] <onetinsoldier> raylu: roger that
[07:24] <WHY> Flannel:  should i set my partision up as swap then
[07:24] <Flannel> WHY: Sure, yes.
[07:24] <ziroday> nice_burger: ah okay. well were not going to know about linode specific stuff, but the people in there are ::)
[07:24] <WHY> Flannel: do i rely need to i got 4 gb of ram
[07:24] <tritium> ziroday: hardly ontopic here...
[07:24] <lawstudent> tnoy_: in my previous home (before i moved), i think i remember seeing a light on my nic card.
[07:24] <raylu> WHY: if by that you mean "should i create a new partition as swap", yes
[07:24] <mb_> yawn.
[07:24] <tnoy_> lawstudent: also, make sure 192.168.2.100 isnt being  used by the other computer that is currently working
[07:25] <nice_burger> ziroday: ja, i'm logging in there now thanks
[07:25] <Flannel> WHY: No, you don't really need it, unless you plan on hibernating
[07:25] <tritium> nice_burger: take that discussion out of channel, please
[07:25] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Check out tnoy_'s commands. Those commands will manually add a gateway address. If you still don't get anything after that, I'd bet my money on the cable.
[07:25] <WHY> Flannel: why would that help with hibernating
[07:25] <tritium> WHY: state is saved to swap
[07:25] <raylu> WHY: again, click. the. link.
[07:26] <Flannel> raylu: Please stop that
[07:26] <raylu> ?
[07:26] <WHY> raylu:  what link
[07:26] <n2diy> Flannel,  ok, I culdn't open that channel, it opened as #apt-cache. I pasted my term. output there, and will paste my sources file now.
[07:26] <raylu> !swap | WHY
[07:26] <Flannel> n2diy: What?  There is no channel.
[07:26] <WHY> raylu:  oh so its kinda like vitrual memory
[07:26] <Flannel> n2diy: paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:26] <tub-o-lard> Does anyone have any experience with chm2pdf?
[07:27] <tritium> WHY: it's *is* virtual memory
[07:27] <WHY> raylu:  how do i set it up to be swap
[07:27] <Flannel> n2diy: And 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop libc6' is a command, not a channel
[07:27] <n2diy> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/85031/
[07:27] <raylu> WHY: create a new partition, mark it as swap
[07:27] <Flannel> n2diy: Wait, that's your sources.list?
[07:28] <WHY> so this partitsion is not where ubuntu goes its a third partition
[07:28] <whynot> I got this message.  Nautilus can't display network.
[07:28] <raylu> WHY: correct
[07:28] <WHY> raylu:  how big should i make it
[07:28] <n2diy> Flannel, working on it.
[07:28] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: yes, I saw that... but strangely when I put "iwconfig ath0 key 1234-1234-1234" in my /etc/network/interfaces file, it has no effect
[07:28] <raylu> WHY: the link :D
[07:28] <lawstudent> tnoy_: before i do your sudo command, could you pls see my router's config screenshot at http://piccdrop.com/images/1229239678.png. then tell me whether the numbers you gave me are still the same. please.
[07:28] <WHY> raylu: what link
[07:28] <raylu> ...
[07:28] <Flannel> n2diy: Alright. Sometimes people's sources.lists get terminal output (bad > commands, generally)
[07:28] <raylu> !swap > WHY
[07:28] <Flannel> WHY: Do you plan on hibernating?
[07:29] <raylu> WHY: this is the 3rd time i've sent you that, by the way
[07:29] <tnoy_> lawstudent: the numbers I gave you are correct
[07:29] <tiyowan> lawstudent: I think tnoy_'s cmds are correct.
[07:29] <WHY> raylu: sure why not mayby
[07:29] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: you don't use "iwconfig" in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:29] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq  <--- WHY
[07:29] <Flannel> WHY: then make it 4.1GB
[07:29] <WHY> raylu: lol and btw it automatically made a swap partision
[07:29] <tnoy_> lawstudent: note that my commands will not automatically give you 'the internet' but it will verify that the connection to the router is OK
[07:30] <fwaokda> how can i get a recycle bin icon on my desktop instead of the panel?
[07:30] <WHY> raylu: Flannel its set to 1.3 gb so put it too 4
[07:30] <mushrmcheeseomlt> !Gnea
[07:30] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[07:30] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: ok, then what do you mean by "can understand iwconfig directives"?
[07:30] <binarymutant> fwaokda: have you tried dragging it from the panel to the desktop?
[07:30] <lawstudent> tnoy_: so do i still use the numbers (IP addresses) you gave ?
[07:30] <fwaokda> binarymtant, no haha thanks
[07:31] <tnoy_> lawstudent: yes
[07:31] <fwaokda> binarymutant, well just tried and it didn't seem to work
[07:31] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: this seems to be where my set up isn't working... getting from /etc/network/interfaces to iwconfig commands
[07:31] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: it can understand iwconfig syntax.  That doesn't mean to include the actual command "iwconfig" in the config file
[07:31] <raylu> fwaokda: right-click, create launcher. location: trash://
[07:31] <WHY> raylu: Flannel so put my swap too 4 gb
[07:31] <Flannel> WHY: yes.
[07:31] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: ok, then what should go in that file?
[07:31] <WHY> Flannel:  raylu thank you for your help
[07:32] <xinel> anyone know of a tool i can use to take text from a flash website?
[07:32] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: the details you need, such as essid, key, etc.
[07:32] <tiyowan> xinel: Take text? As in?
[07:32] <n2diy> Flannel, here is my sources list. http://paste.ubuntu.com/85035/
[07:32] <xinel> as in copy text
[07:32] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: do you not have a graphical desktop?  This is easily setup via System -> Administration -> Network
[07:33] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: right, but I've tried "wireless-key" and it doesn't work. "iwconfig ath0 key XXXXXXXX" does work.
[07:33] <tag> How's the upgrade to intrepid, I've had a system of decreasing stability with each upgrade and having gone through four of them now I'm a little worried about a fifth
[07:33] <Flannel> tag: If you're worried about it, stick with Hardy.  You can upgrade to 10.04 (the next LTS) in 2010
[07:33] <eweb100> Can Somone Help me with Resulation Xubuntu!?!?
[07:33] <binarymutant> :q
[07:33] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: please also see /usr/share/doc/wireless-tools/README.Debian
[07:33] <tiyowan> Mad_Wifi_er: Umm...you've got the proper drivers right? Because there's an issue with intrepid and atheros. Assuming that's what you're using.
[07:33] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: I can get a GUI going, yes
[07:34] <Mad_Wifi_er> tiyowan: I'm using madwifi drivers
[07:34] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: the file above has examples you can follow
[07:34] <btoogood> what is the web browser in kubuntu?
[07:34] <Flannel> btoogood: Konqueror
[07:34] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: that's fine.  ath_pci works with wep
[07:34] <Gnea> btoogood: and firefox
[07:34] <eweb100> flannel: that is the default?
[07:34] <eweb100> ya i was guna say firefox
[07:34] <Flannel> eweb100: I believe so, yeah.
[07:34] <tiyowan> !kubuntu | btoogood
[07:34] <ushimitsudoki> tag: i found the move to intrepid a bit shaky, tho most of the issues are cleared up now. Really suggest reading the release notes this time around: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[07:34] <Gnea> it has both
[07:35] <eweb100> I dont see to have conquer installed
[07:35] <eweb100> and i can't remeber removing it
[07:35] <raylu> eweb100: ...konqueror
[07:35] <btoogood> cheers peoples, just as ubuntu has firefox just wondering what kubuntu
[07:35] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: OK, I'll try the GUI and then look at that file
[07:35] <tiyowan> tag: Went straight from Win to Intrepid on a Dell Inspiron 9400/e1705. Am loving it. :-)
[07:35] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: ok, good luck
[07:35] <WHY> Flannel: raylu do i need to format swap
[07:35] <Flannel> WHY: No, mark it as swap.
[07:36] <eweb100> Does Xubuntu have the REALLY COOOOL resulation tool like in Gnome??
[07:36] <WHY> ok
[07:36] <lawstudent> tnoy_:  (tiyowan). I did the sudo ifconfig command and the sudo route command. then i did the ping command. it said "From 192.168.2.100 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host unreachable.
[07:36] <tritium> eweb100: resulation?  What are you referring to?
[07:36] <binarymutant> how can I get my crontab entries to stop emailing me?
[07:36] <raylu> binarymutant: that depends on the entries...
[07:36] <eweb100> tritium: well... Extending the Desktop to another Monuter
[07:36] <tnoy_> lawstudent: then it doesn't look like the connection to the router is ok
[07:36] <Flannel> binarymutant: pipe the output/errors to /dev/null
[07:36] <lawstudent> tnoy_: and it went from seq=1 to =2 ... =25... etc etc.
[07:36] <lawstudent> tnoy_: hmmm.
[07:37] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Hmm...bad cable maybe? :/
[07:37] <binarymutant> Flannel: > /dev/null ?
[07:37] <binarymutant> < /dev/null
[07:37] <tritium> eweb100: it's spelled "resolution".  That's the screen resolution applet you're referring to.
[07:37] <Flannel> binarymutant: That'll get output (you'll still get emails about errors, which isn't a bad thing).  The first one
[07:37] <tnoy_> lawstudent: yes, the sec=# increasing is normal
[07:37] <lawstudent> tnoy_:  ( tiyowan)    ok. i'll try my eeepc on both the "good"cable and that possibly bad cable.
[07:37] <binarymutant> thanks Flannel
[07:37] <eweb100> tritium: Sory For my bad english, i am spanish
[07:37] <tiyowan> tnoy_: Shouldn't it say 192.168.2.1 instead of 192.168.2.100?
[07:37] <lawstudent> tiyowan: could you copy /save messages that people address to me while I disconnect the good cable, please?
[07:37] <tritium> eweb100: no problem :)
[07:38] <tnoy_> lawstudent: no, its saying you're trying to ping FROM the .100 address
[07:38] <eweb100> tritium:So is there?
[07:38] <tiyowan> lawstudent: I'm here for you buddy.
[07:38] <tnoy_> er, wait, no.
[07:38] <WHY> Flannel:  i am now installing thank you and good bye
[07:38] <tritium> eweb100: checking
[07:38] <lawstudent> tiyowan: thanks.
[07:38] <eweb100> tritium: =) thanks
[07:38] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Just hang on a moment though.
[07:39] <Flannel> n2diy: Can you pastebin the output of that command?
[07:39] <tiyowan> tnoy_: .100?
[07:39] <lawstudent> tiyowan: ok. waiting to hear frm tnoy_.
[07:39] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does mean 'TP' and 'MII'?
[07:39] <n2diy> Flannel, which command?
[07:39] <tnoy_> lawstudent: lol, no the error you posted is correct, that is what it says when it cannot ping the address, I'm sorry
[07:40] <tiyowan> lawstudent: Ok, go ahead with the eee and let us know.
[07:40] <tnoy_> lawstudent: it will show the address you're pinging if the ping works, and the address of the host you're using if the ping does not work
[07:40] <Flannel> n2diy: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop libc6 cpp
[07:40] <lawstudent> tiyowan: tnoy_. ok. thanks. i'm disconnecting good cable now. brb in about 2-5 minutes.
[07:40] <n2diy> Flannel, roger
[07:40] <Noose215> '
[07:41] <tritium> eweb100: no, gnome-display-properties is in the gnome-control-center package, which xubuntu does not appear to depend upon
[07:41] <uwe2006> hi has anyone else prolblems with Grahpic and Ubuntu 8.10?
[07:41] <eweb100> tritium: Then what is the Alternitive?
[07:41] <fwaokda> only if I could get my zune to work with ubuntu would I never have to go back to windows... /cry
[07:41] <tiyowan> uwe2000: What video card do you have? And what is the nature of your problem?
[07:42] <tritium> eweb100: I suggest you ask in #xubuntu.  Alternatively, you could install that package.
[07:42] <uwe2006> after a reboot the xserver did not start again
[07:42] <eweb100> tritium: Thank you i didn't know there was a chanel devoted to it THANKS!
[07:42] <tnoy_> fwaokda: I use my Zune in Windows running in VirtualBox. Its a rather bloated, but it works
[07:43] <raylu> uwe2006: what changes were made?
[07:43] <uwe2006>  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] (rev a3)
[07:43] <fwaokda> tnoy_, ya i tried that but it's very annoying to me
[07:43] <btoogood> fwaokda: there is rockbox you could use then you wouldnt have to go back to windows
[07:43] <fwaokda> btoogood, doesn't work with zune :(
[07:43] <tnoy_> or the Zune marketplace
[07:43] <uwe2006> I upgraded ubuntustudio via network from 8.04 to 8.10
[07:43] <Psi-Jack> Where is asound.conf in Ubuntu 8.10?
[07:44] <n2diy> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/85039/
[07:44] <btoogood> oh ok just thought i had seen it there on ther webpage
[07:44] <fwaokda> tnoy_, I wish wine would improve to allow the zune software to work with ubuntu
[07:44] <tnoy_> I wish wine would improve to completely replace windows :P
[07:44] <onetinsoldier> uwe2006: try renaming your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then run    sudo Xorg -configure
[07:45] <lawstudent2> tnoy_: tiyowan. it must be the ethernet cable connecting router to Ubuntu box.
[07:45] <tritium> onetinsoldier: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, instead
[07:45] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: There ya go. :-)
[07:45] <tritium> lawstudent2: it worked after a cable change?
[07:45] <lawstudent2> tnoy_: tiyowan. when i plugged in my eeepc using cable connecting winxp comp (the one i'm using now), wired internet is ok. but when i plug in eee pc using ethernet cable that connected ubuntu box. No internet
[07:45] <uwe2006> now after 2 attempts I swithced back to 8.04
[07:45] <uwe2006> :(
[07:45] <Flannel> n2diy: That Dapper CD you have... is it actually a desktop CD?  If you open it through a file browser, do you see a start.ini file?
[07:46] <onetinsoldier> tritium: ok.. i think either command should work
[07:46] <Flannel> n2diy: or an isolinux folder?
[07:46] <lawstudent2> tritium: eeepc doesn't have internet connection with the same ettherenet cable connecting router to ubuntu box.
[07:46] <fwaokda> tnoy_, I wonder if there would be a type of remote desktop that would work well using the zune
[07:46] <kompi02> cemplok
[07:46] <lawstudent2> tritium: did that answer your question? (not sure if i understood your question.)
[07:46] <tritium> onetinsoldier: please use the debian/ubuntu method that takes advantage of dpkg-reconfigure
[07:46] <Grand_Tiler> Hi I wish to use a proxy server while on X Chat ... Little information on how to do this using Google ..Please help
[07:46] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: how could the wire have gotten bad?
[07:46] <tritium> lawstudent2: not really ;)
[07:46] <lawstudent2> 8-(
[07:47] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: Happens. CAT cable isn't really conducive to bending.
[07:47] <randomwalker> apps in hardy crash ALL THE TIME. it feels like windows 98
[07:47] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: ah!
[07:47] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: can i UNBEND it?
[07:47] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: ... to make it better?
[07:47] <tritium> lawstudent2: no
[07:47] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: Just run another cable through and you should be all ok. :-) No, you can't unbend it.
[07:47] <lawstudent2> tritium: ok. i'll buy another 20 feet one.
[07:48] <tritium> lawstudent2: if you've bent a Cat5/Cat5e cable to the point of damage, replace it.
[07:48] <Ranakah> i have s-ata 2 HDD (WD Caviar) and it's slooooow... (~5MB/s)
[07:48] <n2diy> Flannel, yes, it has a start.ini, it is the disk I recieved from Shipit.com
[07:48] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: it's not just "another cable" 8-) . It's a 30 foot cable.
[07:48] <lawstudent2> 8-)
[07:48] <lawstudent2> hmmm. maybe 20 bucks
[07:48] <Flannel> n2diy: Ah!  Thats the Desktop CD, not the alternate CD.  You can't upgrade from that one (I know, its silly)
[07:48] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: I do understand, man. :-) But you know how it is.
[07:49] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: yeah.
[07:49] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: what's do you call the cable?
[07:49] <n2diy> Flannel, so start over with the Alt CD!
[07:49] <lawstudent2> is it called CAT cable or ethernet cable or lan cable?
[07:49] <Flannel> n2diy: Indeed.  Or just do the upgrade from the internet
[07:49] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: Standard CAT cable. Ethernet cable. Take your pick.
[07:49] <tritium> lawstudent2: CAT = category.  You need to specify category 5, 5e or 6 for ethernet cable.
[07:50] <raylu> Flannel: wait, seriously?
[07:50] <tritium> CAT alone is insufficient (e.g., CAT3 is for telephone)
[07:50] <lawstudent2> tritium: what number is the usual cat cable?
[07:50] <Flannel> n2diy: Actually, while you're downloading the CD (or before you decide to do the upgrade from the internet), do this for me: alt-f2 then `gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"` and pastebin the following into it:
[07:50] <Flannel> raylu: about what?
[07:50] <tritium> lawstudent2: 5e is standard now
[07:50] <carpii> just get cat 5e
[07:50] <raylu> Flannel: upgrade to 8.10 only from alternate, not from desktop?
[07:50] <carpii> cat6 will work but its overkill for a home lan
[07:50] <nimbus> Anyone know how to begin troubleshooting sound skipping during heavy loads such as opengl games?
[07:50] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: Hi again, I read that file about wireless tools, and also used the Network Settings tool. Set the password to WEP and provided a hex code. Reboot. Still no go.
[07:50] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: Tritium's correct. :-) I'd say CAT5e.
[07:50] <lawstudent2> tritium: carpii is 5e almost the same as cat5?
[07:51] <Flannel> raylu: you can only upgrade (upgrade, not reinstall) from the alternate CDs, Desktops can only do installations.
[07:51] <lawstudent2> what's the diff between cat 5 and cat5e
[07:51] <lawstudent2> ?
[07:51] <raylu> Flannel: that's kinda broken...
[07:51] <tritium> lawstudent2: no, Cat5e is a bit better than Cat5
[07:51] <carpii> just the shielding i think, cat 5 would do too
[07:51] <carpii> but 5e is more common
[07:51] <lawstudent2> tritium: carpii. ok. i'll get cat5e if not too much more expensive than cat5.
[07:52] <tritium> lawstudent2: just get what they have at the computer store ;)
[07:52] <n2diy> Flannel, I have the alt cd, do I need to apt-get add it?
[07:52] <lawstudent2> tritium: comp stores are pricey. i shop at ncix.
[07:52] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: I wouldn't worry to much about 5 and 5e, unless you're going to wire up a whole net cafe or something. :-)
[07:52] <lawstudent2> go to ncix.com
[07:52] <carpii> or buy it online, stores are usually expensive for a single cable
[07:53] <carpii> http://www.network-cabling.co.uk/store/cat5e-patch-leads-c-56.html?osCsid=9955043dd217eabf753c7230b32b0219
[07:53] <carpii> these are dirt cheap if youre in the UK
[07:53] <Flannel> n2diy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85048/  pastebin that into your sources.list, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard ubuntu-minimal
[07:53] <DarkKnight> can anyone check this and give me a solution  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010543
[07:53] <nimbus> It seems sound skips quite a bit under some heavier 3d loads. any idea how to go about tracking down the problem?
[07:53] <lawstudent2> carpii: can you pls go to ncix.com and check it out for cheapest 15 -20 feet cable. (Coz i can pick up locally.)
[07:53] <Flannel> raylu: Not really.  It makes sense when you know how the desktop works
[07:54] <carpii> http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=5171&vpn=RJ45-25&manufacture=nGear%20Technologies%20Inc.
[07:55] <lawstudent2> carpii: thanks!!!
[07:55] <carpii> np
[07:55] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: Um, what exactly do you want to do?
[07:55] <lawstudent2> carpii: $10 for 25 ft sound fair.
[07:55] <carpii> reasonable i suppose, yea
[07:55] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: Setup a lab using Ubuntu?
[07:55] <n2diy> Flannel, the alt cd is cooking, thanks.
[07:56] <lawstudent2> carpii: and the open box unit is even cheaper (2 dollars less). every cent counts for students
[07:56] <carpii> hehe
[07:56] <DarkKnight> tiyowan; ya... make sure that i get updations to clients through the main sever....only the sever has net connection
[07:56] <Flannel> n2diy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades will get you around whatever else
[07:56] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: ...maybe a problem with the structure of the /etc/network/interfaces file? First two lines of the stanza are "auto ath0" and "iface ath0 inet static"
[07:56] <n2diy> Flannel, 10-4
[07:56] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: You need a router. Couple of switches. That's it.
[07:57] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: that looks good
[07:57] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: tnoy_: thanks. We'll be more careful with the cable.
[07:57] <lawstudent2> next time.
[07:57] <hasibullah> hi
[07:57] <hasibullah> how r  u all
[07:57] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: have a look at the  apt-proxy  package.. might be what you're looking for
[07:57] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: I don't anything about Ubuntu server/client...some of the more experienced people here could guide you on that.
[07:57] <lawstudent2> (Coz in the past, we were jerking and tugging it)
[07:57] <kompi02> cemplok
[07:57] <tiyowan> lawstudent2: Well, now you know. :-)
[07:58] <fwaokda> whats the terminal command to uninstall a program?
[07:58] <tritium> lawstudent2: please don't use "Coz" in your law school classes.  It's not proper english.  ;)
[07:58] <hasibullah> i have downloaded an application from wine HQ but it can't be installed
[07:58] <Flannel> fwaokda: sudo apt-get remove package
[07:58] <hasibullah> what is the sulotion
[07:58] <tritium> fwaokda: sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[07:58] <austin_> help
[07:58] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; so what has to be done
[07:58] <fwaokda> thanks Flannel , tritium
[07:58] <binarymutant> is there a way to change the keyboard shortcuts for mutt?
[07:58] <austin_> #help
[07:58] <mushrmcheeseomlt> !dsl
[07:58] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: ok, I'm trying "restricted" mode instead of "open". Rebooting again ;)
[07:58] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: DK wants to setup a whole lab from *scratch*
[07:58] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: why are you rebooting?
[07:59] <vaxius> !firefox
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: that i don't know... i don't know how to set up networks really. i know a little about networking.. but not all that much, sorry
[07:59] <mushrmcheeseomlt> i'd like to know why ubuntu keeps freezing my system?
[07:59] <eweb100> Umm i just did something i shouldn't have.. Can you rollback things you do in terminal???
[07:59] <raylu> eweb100: that depends on what you did
[07:59] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier, tiyowan; thanq
[08:00] <fwaokda> i've download rdesktop -- how do i connect to a desktop running vista in my other room? anyone have a tutorial?
[08:00] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: Is there a simpler way to get it to absorb my edit to /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:00] <hasibullah> is there anyone  listening to me
[08:00] <eweb100> ummm i insatlled compiz for kunbtu on xfce. so i wanted to remove it
[08:00] <eweb100> so i just did the same code but replaced isntall with remove
[08:00] <mushrmcheeseomlt> i was very excited to finally replace Windows with a reputable distro, but then this happens - it's like having a linux BSOD
[08:00] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: System -> Administration -> Network
[08:00] <bullgard4> man mii-tool: "This utility checks or sets the status of a network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit." What is a 'network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit'?
[08:00] <eweb100> and it started to delete alot of my files
[08:00] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: If you want a simple solution this would work....get a router/switches....install Ubuntu and run all of them. If you want a lab in which one machine is running as a mail server etc. Then you'd need to look into Ubuntu servers and stuff.
[08:00] <eweb100> and no i dont have rythombox and a bunch of other stuff
[08:01] <tritium> mushrmcheeseomlt: you'd need to give us more detail.  It's not happening to us.
[08:01] <DarkKnight> tiyowan; okk...i guess i'll give more thought upon it
[08:01] <eweb100> raylu: Can you??
[08:01] <raylu> tiyowan: i suggested that he get apt-mirror on his server
[08:01] <raylu> eweb100: sorry, i didn't read any messages; next time, prefix them with my name please
[08:02] <tiyowan> raylu: Know of any good resources on it actually? I'd love to explore a complete Ubuntu system replacing a Windows Active Directory solution.
[08:02] <eweb100> raylu: o sorry of corse
[08:02] <eweb100> raylu:  i insatlled compiz for kunbtu on xfce. so i wanted to remove it
[08:02] <hasibullah> how can we install microsoft applications in ubuntu 8.04
[08:02] <eweb100> raylu:so i just did the same code but replaced isntall with remove
[08:02] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: read what raylu said... apt-mirror is probably what you really want
[08:02] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: I already dialed in my settings with System -> Administration -> Network, but WEP still isn't working
[08:02] <eweb100> raylu: and it started to delete alot of my files
[08:02] <joshhunt> hasibullah: wine
[08:02] <raylu> tiyowan: i told DarkKnight of a great one: google. he was unable to find relevant information, even though the first result is useful
[08:03] <raylu> eweb100: hm
[08:03] <wos> can anyone tell me how to monitor my total bandwidth usage on my small LAN ?
[08:03] <hasibullah> i tried allot can u tell me the way
[08:03] <raylu> eweb100: sounds like you removed the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:03] <eweb100> raylu: yep
[08:03] <tiyowan> raylu: Hehehe thanks. Point taken.
[08:03] <raylu> eweb100: there's a file in your home directory called bash_history. could you pastebin the relevant lines from there?
[08:03] <lawstudent2> tritium: yes, my learned friend. 8-)
[08:03] <raylu> eweb100: *.bash_history (with the . in front)
[08:03] <gfather[a]> can i install ubuntu from a virtual drive on windows ?
[08:04] <eweb100> raylu: where is it located?
[08:04] <raylu> hasibullah: wine is hit or miss; some will install, some won't. though if you need a lot of them, consider a virtual machine solution or...not using ubuntu
[08:04] <raylu> eweb100: in your home directory.
[08:04] <DarkKnight> raylu, onetinsoldier; ya....i have read it already....i just wanted to know if there are any other solutions...so that i dont end stuck up somewhere....i just wanted to know about alternatives
[08:04] <eweb100> Ime on xfce
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> Where is asound.conf in Ubuntu 8.10?  I don't see it, and I'm trying to adjust some things about alsa, piping audio through PulseAudio completely.
[08:04] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: Also, System -> Administration -> Network doesn't seem to have all the options I need... I'm trying to set up an access point, i.e., master mode
[08:04] <mushrmcheeseomlt> @tritium thanks for responding. i was in this channel a few days ago regarding this issue. i'm fairly new to linux so please bear with my being a newbie (less than 2wks). i'm using Intel P4 2.4GHz 256MB RAM 40GB HD. last time i was on this channel it was suggested that it was because of heat issues, but after a few days of booting up, the 'freezing' actually still happened even after a few...
[08:04] <eweb100> raylu: i am on xfce
[08:04] <mushrmcheeseomlt> ...minutes upon booting up so that definitely isn't a heat issue... any takes please?
[08:04] <raylu> DarkKnight: there are ways to set up networked installations
[08:04] <raylu> eweb100: that's fine
[08:05] <raylu> DarkKnight: you'll also want a way for your users to share files
[08:05] <whynot> Here goes my tip and question at the same time.  When I make up a network between win xp laptop and ubuntu machine, it worked fine.  And then I assigned password to guest account at win xp, ubuntu samba couldn't display a window for user name and password for winxp shared folder.  I nullified the winxp guest password. Now ubuntu can access win xp shared folder.  Why is that?
[08:05] <raylu> DarkKnight: and a way for users to be able to login on any machine
[08:05] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: you *never* said that you were setting up an access point until now...
[08:05] <eweb100> raylu: so its in my user folder?
[08:05] <raylu> eweb100: yes. but it starts with a ".", so natilus won't see it
[08:05] <raylu> eweb100: "gedit ~/.bash_history" should help
[08:05] <whynot> window display a window asking ubuntu user name and password but ubuntu samba can't.  Why is that?
[08:05] <DarkKnight> raylu; here not much sharing of files is required....i'll give u a whole view of how our lab is....
[08:06] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: I did at first. Lost in the scroll?
[08:06] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: Anyway, that's what I'm doing.
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> Basically, how can I define pcm.pulse {type pulse}   And stuff?
[08:06] <eweb100> raylu: ok almost done
[08:06] <whynot> Nobody can answer me?
[08:06] <raylu> eweb100: i only need the relevant lines
[08:06] <eweb100> raylu: i no
[08:07] <raylu> eweb100: oh, ok. i thought you were uploading the whole thing when you said "almost done"
[08:07] <eweb100> raylu: lol no
[08:07] <eweb100> raylu: sudo apt-get remove compiz compizconfig-settings-manager  compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  emerald librsvg2-common
[08:07] <eweb100> raylu: that was my last one.
[08:08] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: as an access point, everything works now except WEP
[08:08] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: sorry, can't help with that
[08:08] <raylu> eweb100: was the problem removing kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop? you could just reinstall whichever one got removed
[08:08] <whynot> Is there no official ubuntu supporter?
[08:08] <onetinsoldier> wos: i don't know much about it it, but perhaps NetMRG
[08:09] <raylu> whynot: not for free, no
[08:09] <DarkKnight> raylu; every system is numbered... and every student logs into the system using the system id and password....the system are networked only for package updations or upgradations, mysql server, web sever.....thats all....students are given access only to the clients just to execute their lab programs...
[08:09] <eweb100> raylu: i gues the problem is that i did that command and i saw it show "deleting rythombox" and no i can't find it in my media
[08:09] <tritium> whynot: we're supporters here, and this channel is official
[08:09] <Mad_Wifi_er> tritium: ok, thanks, should I try in this forum or elsewhere? The madwifi ppl sent me here
[08:09] <eweb100> raylu: and i just want to get it back.
[08:09] <whynot> tritium/what do you think of my question?
[08:09] <eweb100> raylu: and get back the things that were deleted but i dont know yet.
[08:09] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH> anybody know a good nas server that is compatible with a ubuntu box
[08:09] <tritium> whynot: I answered you.  (It is an odd question, however.)
[08:10] <whynot> tritium/ubuntu can't display window shared folder, when I assign a password to guest account of windows.
[08:10] <raylu> eweb100: which ubuntu are you on?
[08:10] <eweb100> raylu: 8.1
[08:10] <eweb100> raylu: 10 kernel
[08:10] <raylu> eweb100: i meant, ku or xubuntu?
[08:10] <eweb100> x
[08:10] <eweb100> raylu: X
[08:10] <raylu> eweb100: what happens if you run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"?
[08:10] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: not sure, buddy
[08:11] <raylu> er
[08:11] <raylu> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH> raylu: it will explode
[08:11] <raylu> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH: what's with the nick?
[08:11] <vaxius> !info xubuntu-desktop | raylu
[08:11] <whynot> Let me know how to uninstall smbfs package, please.
[08:11] <raylu> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH: and also, he already has most of it. removing something removed xubuntu-desktop as a dependency
[08:11] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH> your pc will litterally blow on your face. so i advise you wear some goggles before running that command
[08:11] <eweb100> raylu: see thats the funy part. i installed the Kubuntu verison of conpiz
[08:12] <whynot> sudo apt-get uninstall smbfs, is it gonna work?
[08:12] <eweb100> raylu: and ime running Xfce
[08:12] <fwaokda> do i need to worry about viruses at all with ubuntu ?
[08:12] <wos> onetinsoldier, i installed it but how do you run netMRG?
[08:12] <tritium> !virus | fwaokda
[08:12] <onetinsoldier> whynot: you can 'purchase' commercial support. at that point, i'd say that you'd get an 'official' ubuntu supporter
[08:12] <unimatrix9> hi there
[08:12] <DarkKnight> raylu; hey we have started with the installation of client systems...is it possible to put up the sever at last
[08:13] <raylu> DarkKnight: um...
[08:13] <unimatrix9> any nvidia gamers around on ubuntu?
[08:13] <onetinsoldier> wos: no.. i do not. it sounds a little complex... uses mySQL, c++, pthreads, RRDTOOL.. oh boy
[08:13] <whynot> onetinsoldier/ I'm a just end user, I don't use linux(ubuntu) to make profit.  I don't buy linux.
[08:13] <tritium> Mad_Wifi_er: good night, and good luck.
[08:13] <raylu> DarkKnight: to save yourself a lot of time, install and configure the server first
[08:13] <raylu> DarkKnight: so that the other systems can install over the network from the server
[08:13] <wos> onetinsoldier,  yeah i cant get it started without an error
[08:13] <onetinsoldier> whynot: heck, same here. i just thought it might answer your question tho.
[08:13] <tritium> whynot:  he merely said that because you asked about official supporters.
[08:13] <unimatrix9> whats your nvidia card model ( need a new one ) agp 8x shout model and number + ram
[08:14] <DarkKnight> raylu; hey can u tell me how to install from the sever...
[08:14] <eweb100> raylu: My question is, Did i delete Rythombox for good??
[08:14] <raylu> eweb100: of course not
[08:14] <raylu> eweb100: on another note, do you really want that app? it's kinda...ew...
[08:14] <whynot> tritium/yeah...because ubuntu reminds me of so many things...
[08:14] <eweb100> raylu: THen how can i get it back on the applications menu
[08:14] <onetinsoldier> wos: you can check out 'iptraf'. but iptraf might not be what you're really looking for.. but i highly recommend you look at it anyway. it's not very complex but still pretty nice
[08:14] <raylu> eweb100: sudo apt-get install rhythmbox
[08:15] <raylu> DarkKnight: apt-mirror
[08:15] <eweb100> raylu: i know it is..but there are other things that were deleted that i didn't get to see what they were
[08:15] <raylu> DarkKnight: wait, no
[08:15] <raylu> DarkKnight: but you'll want to set that up anyway
[08:15] <wos> onetinsoldier, i tested that. it only measures the traffic of the system its running on
[08:15] <raylu> eweb100: did you install xubuntu-desktop yet?
[08:15] <DarkKnight> raylu; sure....
[08:15] <eweb100> raylu:yes
[08:15] <DarkKnight> raylu; y not??
[08:15] <whynot> tritium/ Somebody says...big company hardly adopt linux(free software) because there is nobody who takes full responsibility when something goes wrong.
[08:15] <raylu> DarkKnight: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html
[08:16] <onetinsoldier> wos: exactly. why i thought it might now really be what you're looking for, but though i should mention it. now i know that you know, lol.
[08:16] <onetinsoldier> now = not
[08:16] <raylu> whynot: that's what red hat and canonical are for
[08:16] <raylu> whynot: also, that's only because their management is dumb
[08:16] <eweb100> raylu: would reinstalling Xfce get the entries back in the applcations menu?
[08:17] <lawstudent2> tiyowan: tnoy_ tritium. am i looking for a patch cable or crossover cable?
[08:17] <raylu> eweb100: what entries?
[08:17] <raylu> lawstudent2: patch
[08:17] <whynot> raylu/ Hard to comment on your statement.
[08:17] <eweb100> raylu: Brb
[08:17] <raylu> whynot: many managers want "guarantees" that their systems will run and someone to point their finger at when their systems don't
[08:18] <raylu> whynot: so red hat inc. and canonical sell support to these idiots
[08:18] <eweb100> raylu: how do i remove Xubuntu?
[08:18] <unimatrix9> any ubuntu users with nvidia cards here?
[08:18] <lawstudent2> raylu ty
[08:18] <raylu> eweb100: um...what? why?
[08:18] <whynot> raylu/ people are dumb sometimes, they always try to find out a kind of victims..that's what you are saying.
[08:18] <eweb100> raylu: I have a thery i am going to reinstal it.
[08:18] <raylu> whynot: what? i didn't say anything about victims
[08:18] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: i use nvidia
[08:18] <raylu> whynot: canonical and red hat willingly offer their support. they're not "victims," they're being paid
[08:18] <raylu> unimatrix9: same
[08:18] <whynot> raylu/ It's same context as your saying.
[08:18] <raylu> unimatrix9: you asked about gaming, i believe. i game, though not on ubuntu
[08:19] <raylu> eweb100: that's probably not what you want to do
[08:19] <whynot> raylu/ you don't get my drift...I guess.
[08:19] <vaxius> companies also need admins that are trained on linux, just the same as for windows; some companies don't have enough IT staff that knows linux
[08:19] <rdw200169> vaxius: very true
[08:19] <raylu> whynot: in my opinion, the victims are the employees of these companies that have to suffer under incompetent management
[08:19] <unimatrix9> i am looking at an gf6200 xfx , would that be any good
[08:20] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: is that the one without a fan?
[08:20] <whynot> raylu/ some managers are looking for sort of victims, what they want is not to run everything smooth.
[08:20] <unimatrix9> yes
[08:20] <raylu> vaxius: i don't like the word "trained" :P
[08:20] <lawstudent2> how much better is cat5e over cat5?
[08:20] <apelgate> hello
[08:20] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: big ass heat sink?
[08:20] <raylu> whynot: that wasn't what i was saying at all. they want both
[08:20] <unimatrix9> black heat sink
[08:20] <apelgate> how do I make my new init script start on boot?
[08:20] <rdw200169> *whoops, sorry for the cursing
[08:20] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:20] <unimatrix9> not the copper sink though
[08:20] <vaxius> raylu: i can do tricks!
[08:20] <whynot> raylu/in other words, they are always seeking for someone or something to blame.
[08:21] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: well, i have a 6000 series XFX nvidia pci-express card w/out a fan, i.e. heat sink
[08:21] <unimatrix9> hows the 3D performance?
[08:21] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: it might be the same, the pictures only show one side, i bet, do you have a pic?
[08:21] <lawstudent2> is it best to get as short an ethernet cable as i need? (in other words: does a longer ethernet cable equal slower net speed?)
[08:21] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: or a link?
[08:21] <apelgate> how do I make my new init script start on boot?
[08:21] <unimatrix9> http://www.alternate.nl/html/product/Grafische_kaarten_nVidia_AGP_-/XFX/GF6200/-1071836/?tn=HARDWARE&l1=Grafische+kaarten&l2=AGP&l3=NVIDIA
[08:21] <unimatrix9> link
[08:21] <jxw002> hello Could anyone help me with upgrade from ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10
[08:21] <raylu> lawstudent2: theoretically, if you have a few miles of ethernet cable..
[08:22] <vaxius> lawstudent2: 50 feet is the rule of thumb
[08:22] <jxw002> I have download 8.10 iso
[08:22] <raylu> lawstudent2: but no, for your purposes, longer is better
[08:22] <unimatrix9> jw002 , cant do an clean install?
[08:22] <raylu> lawstudent2: the only thing limiting length should be cost
[08:22] <Gnea> !upgrade | jxw002
[08:22] <whynot> raylu/  And it's very improtant for them to make something as their bulletproof.  They can escape from rock and hard place while saying it's not my fault!  It's them!
[08:22] <jxw002> I tried to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes instructions
[08:22] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: not the one i have, hold on, i'll find a link
[08:22] <matiit> Hi, In standard 8.10 installation there is a Xorg server 1.5?
[08:22] <vaxius> lawstudent2: wait i think it's 100 feet
[08:22] <unimatrix9> ok
[08:23] <jxw002> i download 8.10 iso
[08:23] <raylu> apelgate: update-rc.d
[08:23] <apelgate> hmm
[08:23] <jxw002> mount the iso to /media/cdrom0
[08:23] <jxw002> but it doesn't show me a dialogue
[08:23] <matiit> Hi, In standard 8.10 installation there is a Xorg server 1.5?
[08:23] <apelgate> ok. After putting the file in init.d, right?
[08:23] <raylu> apelgate: yes.
[08:23] <jxw002> i also tried gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[08:24] <hasibullah> how can i install wine in my computer
[08:24] <unimatrix9> sudo apt-get install wine  i guess
[08:24] <matiit> hasibullah: sudo aptitude install wine
[08:24] <unimatrix9> hehe
[08:24] <whynot> By the way, why linux is using remove command not uninstall?
[08:24] <onetinsoldier> matt__: 1.5? you mean 7.5? i saw someone else referring to it as 1.5 and i was like huh?
[08:24] <apelgate> thanks raylu
[08:24] <andresmh> i am on the emerald theme manager, i imported a couple of themes, but when clicking on any other than mac4lin the theme doesn't change, why?
[08:24] <Gnea> whynot: apt always has. it's the way it is.
[08:25] <unimatrix9> whynot whynot
[08:25] <unimatrix9> :P
[08:25] <matiit> onetinsoldier: Xorg 7.4 with xserver 1.5,
[08:25] <jxw002> ubottu
[08:25] <DarkKnight> hey in a cd...dont we get all the packages that exist in ubuntu
[08:25] <andresmh> should i be using emerald theme manager in the first place? i have intrepid
[08:25] <jxw002> ubottu I tried to follow the instruction
[08:25] <whynot> I tried <uninstall smbfs> it didn't work.  so I tried remove it worked.  waste of time.
[08:25] <Mad_Wifi_er> Anybody been able to set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point with WEP?
[08:25] <onetinsoldier> matiit:  1:7.4 in 8.10
[08:26] <Slart> DarkKnight: nope
[08:26] <Gnea> whynot: it's more of a waste of time to complain about something being a waste of time.
[08:26] <Slart> DarkKnight: there is a dvd that has more packages.. but it's still not everything
[08:26] <matiit> onetinsoldier: so, why xf86-video-intl does not require GEM?
[08:26] <whynot> gnea/** you're right.
[08:26] <onetinsoldier> matiit: hey, i don't know
[08:26] <vaxius> Mad_Wifi_er: no, i just use a dedicated box running pfsense
[08:26] <whynot> gnea/I made too much whining so far.
[08:26] <DarkKnight> Slart; i have a 64-bit cd...and i suppose i got everything....
[08:27] <Gnea> whynot: so enjoy what you have so far and get over it :)
[08:27] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: i have this: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150220&CMP=AFC-C8Junction
[08:27] <rdw200169> it's also fanless, and xfx.  i've had it for about 2 years now
[08:27] <unimatrix9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[08:27] <nimbus> So I have been working on the sound stuttering issue in Prey and I found that when I start Prey from a terminal, it is perfect. Only when I run it from Applications>games does it have issues.
[08:28] <whynot> Gnea/maybe you know the secret why samba can't access win shared folder when I assign a password to guest account, don't you?
[08:28] <nimbus> And idea why that might be the case?
[08:28] <Slart> DarkKnight: well, you didn't.. you get enough packages to make a default install.. ie you can install ubuntu to an computer that has no internet connection..
[08:28] <unimatrix9> rdw200169 thank you
[08:28] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: i highly recommend xfx fanless, did you see the rating the one i have got...
[08:28] <Gnea> whynot: sounds like you're doing it wrong.
[08:29] <unimatrix9> where can i check the rating?
[08:29] <srothroc> I just installed Opera; for some reason, I can't use the keyboard for anything in it. The keyboard works fine elsewhere, just not in Opera. Any ideas?
[08:29] <jxw002> Could anyone help me get out the upgrade dialogue screen please
[08:29] <unimatrix9> oh on the website
[08:29] <unimatrix9> i see
[08:29] <Gnea> whynot: your best bet is to ask in #samba
[08:29] <whynot> Gnea/ need some more detailed explanation, please
[08:29] <Miyavix3> What does your hard drive need to be partitioned to in order to install windows? I put the install disk(windows) and it says I don't have a hard drive. Any info on how to fix that?
[08:29] <onetinsoldier> jxw002: it's stuck?
[08:30] <nimbus> srothroc, I have no idea why Opera isn't seeing your keyboard.
[08:30] <bigbakedbean> Miyavix3:  is it a SATA hard drive?
[08:30] <nimbus> I am on Opera now and have no such issue.
[08:30] <Miyavix3> It's in a laptop
[08:30] <vaxius> srothroc: it's frozen?
[08:30] <Miyavix3> I believe so
[08:30] <srothroc> vaxius: It's not frozen; mouse works fine.
[08:30] <bigbakedbean> it is more likely that you need to slipstream the sata drivers
[08:30] <bigbakedbean> google slipstream
[08:30] <raylu> sigh.
[08:30] <whynot> Gnea/ok. let's stop it.  Too much headache.
[08:30] <bigbakedbean> are you trying to install xp or vista?
[08:30] <jxw002> hi onetinsoldier, I download the iso file, and mount the iso file, but I don't see a upgrade dialogue
[08:30] <raylu> flurry isn't in xscreensaver, xscreensaver-gl, or xscreensaver-gl-extra
[08:30] <Miyavix3> bigbakedbean: XP
[08:31] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: what's surprising is that i can't get another one! *sigh*
[08:31] <onetinsoldier> jxw002: oh...
[08:31] <Gnea> whynot: seriously, #samba can help you out better
 yeah you'll need to slipstream the drivers
[08:31] <apelgate> raylu: how do I know if rc-update worked?
[08:31] <apelgate> it says: [1]+  Stopped                 rc-update
[08:31] <jxw002> onetinsoldier have u had any similiar problems?
[08:31] <vaxius> srothroc: i guess you could try a reinstall, opera should just be getting keyboard events the same as every other application
[08:31] <whynot> Gnea/I don't have any user ID.  and I don't want to make one.  ubuntu channel is the only place I rely on.
[08:31] <nimbus> any idea why games run better when launched from the terminal?
[08:32] <srothroc> vaxius: I /just/ installed it.
[08:32] <Gnea> whynot: well samba is a samba issue, not an ubuntu issue.
[08:32] <Miyavix3> Thanks, I'll try slipstreaming
[08:32] <onetinsoldier> jxw002: perhaps it needs to be added to your /etc/apt/sources.list? i'm a little faimilar with that file, but i don't think i know how to add a mounted .iso to it
[08:32] <Slart> nimbus: unless the menu launcher does in some way run differently I have no idea
[08:32] <raylu> apelgate: um...what? update-rc.d
[08:32] <Gnea> !samba
[08:33] <vaxius> srothroc: very strange, i don't know what could be wronge without a visit to google
[08:33] <whynot> gnea/why don't you make it flexible?  They are inter-connected actually.  Anyway. I'll stop talking about samba.
[08:33] <bigbakedbean> Miyavix3: no problem.  You can PM me if you need more help
[08:33] <Gnea> whynot: it works fine the way it is. it's not broke, so no reason to fix it.
[08:33] <unimatrix9> rdw200169  once you have an card , and it breaks , its hard to find an new one that does the same job
[08:33] <jxw002> onetinsoldier, my problem is basically, I insert something to the cd driver, it's supposed to autorun a file, but that file doesn't run
[08:33] <nimbus> srothroc - did you maybe pick up the wrong version? such as 32 bit or 64 bit?
[08:34] <whynot> Gnea/don't try to fix something, if it ain't broke.  that's ur axiom, I guess.
[08:34] <nimbus> Weirdness such as that makes me think something like that might be the case.
[08:34] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: more or less i'm referring to the SLI benefit, and that requires a duplicate,
[08:34] <unimatrix9> ah
[08:34] <unimatrix9> even harder...
[08:34] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: regardless, you might want to consider a dual dvi out, so you can do dual monitors
[08:34] <unimatrix9> oh ,yes thats an option too
[08:34] <onetinsoldier> jxw002: well, have you tried going into the mount point the .iso is mounted on? might be an executable in there you could try and run
[08:35] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: nvidia's drivers are *Excellent* at doing that, i know, i'm doing it now, i have one running metacity, and the other doing compiz
[08:35] <Gnea> whynot: look, just respect channel and network policy and just go and ask there.
[08:35] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: on different X displays
[08:35] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: and i can still drag my mouse between them, even though they are independent
[08:35] <unimatrix9> does it run the games on two srceens too?
[08:35] <Mad_Wifi_er> Anybody been able to set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point?
[08:36] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: put simply, i can watch a movie on one, and play WoW on the other
[08:36] <unimatrix9> wow
[08:36] <unimatrix9> !
[08:36] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: with no loss in performance
[08:36] <Miyavix3> I don't have windows to slipstream in...
[08:36] <whynot> Gnea/I respect channel.  don't take it personal.  and I said I'll stop talking about samba.  Isn't it enough?
[08:36] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: compiz won't run on multiple x displays, hence the metacity thing, and i don't like the 'big desktop' option
[08:37] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: b/c then 'full screen' always goes across both displays, and my displays are different dimensions, i.e. ones an upgrade of the other ;)
[08:37] <zhjawe> cool,you can play wow and video at the same time.
[08:37] <matkix> On ubuntu server I'm attempting to install bacula with this command "sudo apt-get install bacula" It cant seem to find this, do I need to add some repos?
[08:37] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: what version of kernel do you have?
[08:38] <rdw200169> matkix: first, make sure the package name is correct, do apt-cache search bacula
[08:38] <Slart> nimbus: !info bacula
[08:38] <Slart> oops.. sorry
[08:38] <Slart> !info bacula
[08:38] <vaxius> !info bacula | matkix
[08:38] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: nothing special, just the normal kernel i haven't upgraded yet, so it's the latest 8.04 kernel
[08:38] <vaxius> matkix: nope, looks like it's in main
[08:38] <jxw002> onetinsoldier I just tried to execute from the folder, but it says there is no application for this file type
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> Oy! I'm getting frustrated with PulseAudio and ALSA combined! GRRRR...
[08:38] <matkix> Humm
[08:38] <Slart> matkix: seems it's in the main repository.. you shouldn't have to add anything afaik
[08:38] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: i can't remember what nvidia driver i'm using, at times i've had to download them from nvidia, then others i just use ubuntu's
[08:39] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: ah, roger. so you are able to use the nvidia proprietary driver if you want i assume
[08:39] <unimatrix9> cheap nvidia cards seem to boil down to the nvidia 6200
[08:39] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: oh yes, that's all i've used
[08:39] <matkix> Slart: How can I force apt to re-fresh rather than just say it cant find it?
[08:39] <Slart> matkix: no typos? try running apt-cache search bacula
[08:39] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: the proprietary drivers are the ones with the dual monitor support options
[08:39] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: with hardware acceleration
[08:39] <Slart> matkix: sudo apt-get update
[08:40] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: i hear you. use nvidia and ati guys using ubuntu 8.10 are wiating for drivers that work with our newer kernel. :-|
[08:40] <onetinsoldier> use = us
[08:40] <matkix> Its updatin :) we will try again after
[08:40] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: and you still spending 55 euro, a minor upgrade to the 7000 series would add a lot of features ...
[08:40] <matkix> w00t
[08:40] <matkix> ty
[08:40] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: yet again, i'm glad i'm waiting, i never upgrade right away ;)
[08:40] <nexus23> how do i make ffmpeg encode at the highest possible quality?
[08:40] <Slart> matkix: you're welcome
[08:41] <rdw200169> unimatrix9: if i remember correctly, the 7000 series added HDPC support, among other things
[08:41] <Slart> nexus23: you read the ffmpeg manual, there are many many many switches iirc
[08:41] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: hehe.. roger. i kinda need newer linux(kernel and utils) though. my system is pretty new overall
[08:42] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: you must be a programmer then, that's why i stick with python, fewer hassles on that front...
[08:42] <huxl3y> Anyone ever get this a [fail] when tyring to stop networking with ~$sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop   on 8.10?
[08:42] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: now, with server stuff on the other hand, i have to be really careful with kernel versions b/c of the strange stuff i use
[08:43] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: so i can add iptables features, etc...
[08:43] <vaxius> nexus23: man ffomg that's a lot of quits
[08:43] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: what in the world makes you think i must be a programmer? i can assure i am far from it! years ago i learned a fair amount of bash shell scripting, but i haven't used linux for so long i have forgotten so much it makes me sad. sniff sniff
[08:43] <rdw200169> it's a irc thing
[08:43] <vaxius> oops, combined messages somehow
[08:43] <randal> What is the super botton plz help
[08:43] <huxl3y> yea serious - I was wondering if a bomb went off somewhere jeez
[08:43] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: then what do you need the latest and greatest for?
[08:44] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: my hardware is what i meant.. it's pretty new overall
[08:44] <unimatrix9> netsplit
[08:44] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: ah, i see, drivers, got it
[08:44] <randal> What is the super botton plz help
[08:44] <Psi-Jack> Okay.. Blah.
[08:44] <rdw200169> it's an irc switch thing
[08:44] <Psi-Jack> I have PulseAudio running, and I'm trying to get my mic to work for recording purposes.
[08:45] <vaxius> wtf
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> When I turn on the volume to record, it constantly plays outloud.
[08:45] <randal> What is the super botton plz help
[08:45] <unimatrix9> randal, be more specific
[08:45] <rdw200169> usually a bot explains what happened
[08:45] <Slart> randal: it's configurable.. alt, windows-key, other-windows-key, altgr, ctrl, shift..
[08:45] <randal> what is the super botton on the key board im trying to use my 3d cube
[08:45] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: yeah.. heck, if i want my IDE PATA controller to work, i need kernel-2.6.28... i ended up buying a dvd sata drive so i could install linux.
[08:45] <mushrmcheeseomlt> yes i happen to have nvidia
[08:45] <unimatrix9> crtl+alt+ left right
[08:45] <unimatrix9> arrow
[08:45] <randal> Slart:  whats the defalt super button key
[08:46] <vaxius> randal: it's your windows key
[08:46] <randal> ok thanks
[08:46] <Slart> randal: I don't know.. why not try them.. it's only six different keys
[08:46] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: you should look into the usb install options
[08:46] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: for future reference anyway
[08:46] <huxl3y> Anyone here good with network configuration in regards to installing KVM?
[08:47] <Slart> !anyone | huxl3y
[08:47] <vaxius> i tried kvm a year ago and gave up, lol
[08:47] <huxl3y> Slart: whats !anyone do?
[08:47] <rdw200169> huxl3y: well, depends, you what kind of kvm, like keyboard-video-monitor interface?
[08:47] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: because of a kernel bug in the 8.10 installer(kernel-2.6.27) i ended up installing that way, using unetbootin. but i didn't know about it until i tried to install 8.10 and absolutely could not find a way around kernel messages i was getting...
[08:47] <Slart> huxl3y: it tells ubottu (the bot) to write the line you just saw.. cuts down on typing =)
[08:47] <Mad_Wifi_er> Anybody been able to set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point?
[08:48] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: end_request: Buffer I/o error in sector xxxx  over and over
[08:48] <luddite> where are gnome setting stored?
[08:48] <huxl3y> rdw200160: well I'm looking to setup a windows virtual machine for my photoshop addiction haha
[08:48] <luddite> i wwnt to start them when fluxbox stars
[08:48] <huxl3y> Slart: ahh thanks Slart
[08:48] <Slart> luddite: I think they are in this registry-thingy.. gconf-editor will let you edit it
[08:48] <vaxius> luddite: ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2
[08:48] <rdw200169> huxl3y: what software are you using? vmware, vbox, etc..?
[08:48] <Slart> huxl3y: you're welcome
[08:48] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: then LjL on here told be about  unetbootin
[08:48] <huxl3y> rdw200169: using apt-get install kvm
[08:49] <dr_willis> luddite,  i recall when using some non-gnome windowmanager/desktops  having to run the gnome-settings (or similer name) tool to get gnome settings to be read/updated/used correctly
[08:49] <huxl3y> rdw200169: using this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[08:49] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: ah, that's a doable means, i would have just done the usb dongle install option myself
[08:49] <unimatrix9> thank you for all the info bye bye
[08:49] <rdw200169> huxl3y: ok, hold on, i've never used that before, lemme read up real quick
[08:50] <DarkKnight> raylu; how do i allow a directory to have FTP access
[08:50] <rdw200169> huxl3y: ok, you're gonna want a bridged connection, for sure
[08:50] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: now, i believe that's what unetbootin does.. or what i did with it anyway. i had the .iso on my hard drive. i selected it and unetbootin wrote it to my usb stick and made my stick bootable
[08:50] <huxl3y> rdw200169: yea thats what I'm trying to configure this is where I'm at
[08:50] <vaxius> luddite: if you're talking about gconf, you can use gconf-editor
[08:50] <ibm_> I have cdrom & dvdrw, howto: apt-cdrom add ->for my dvdrw
[08:51] <huxl3y> rdw200169: I've just edited /etc/network/interfaces and I copy pasted that DHCP code and saved the file with vim
[08:51] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: yeah, duh, for some reason i read unetbootin and thought netinstall
[08:51] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: that's the best software for it, very successful
[08:51] <huxl3y> rdw200169: the trouble I'm having is silly - I don't know what the values are for my network and the default values from the example don't work.. :p
[08:51] <rdw200169> huxl3y: don't worry, i caught your note
[08:51] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: yeah, it was great.. very fast! even the live cd running off it
[08:52] <onetinsoldier> perhaps i should say.. live usb stick
[08:52] <vaxius> ibm_: sudo apt-cdrom add
[08:52] <daedelus> since i installed ubuntu my internet has been a lot slower anyone able to help with optimizing network settings?
[08:52] <rdw200169> ok, how many *real* network interfaces do you have
[08:52] <daedelus> 1
[08:52] <DarkKnight> raylu; how do i allow a directory to have FTP access
[08:53] <rdw200169> huxl3y: see note above
[08:53] <huxl3y> rdw200169:  I guess my question is should the code from the DHCP values work with my generic network considering I don't know enough about networking. ok I'll look again
[08:53] <silverferro> hi, anyone here can help a noob?
[08:54] <tiyowan> !ask | silverferro
[08:54] <daedelus> since i installed ubuntu my internet has been a lot slower anyone able to help with optimizing network settings?
[08:54] <onetinsoldier> silverferro: just ask the real question you have
[08:54] <euxneks> I'm having a weird error with my keyboard, whenever I press up gnome-screenshot is run
[08:54] <tiyowan> daedelus: Wireless/wired?
[08:54] <vaxius> eeek, a noob! :-P
[08:54] <rdw200169> huxl3y: just run 'ip link' it will show you your interfaces, can you tell me what they are called, i.e. eth0, br0, lo etc..
[08:54] <daedelus> wired
[08:55] <daedelus> its 15 mbit cable
[08:55] <ZeZu> wtf, if i install openssh-server does it not add it to startup scripts?
[08:55] <onetinsoldier> silverferro: this your first foray into linux?
[08:55] <silverferro> i want to pair my bluetooth headphone and its default pass is 8888 and the dafualt pass ubuntu uses is 0000
[08:55] <daedelus> but i did a bandwidth test at 2 different servers on speedtest and it came up with 6 mbit
[08:55] <huxl3y> rdw200169: I'm not sure just type 'ip link' in the command window?
[08:55] <rdw200169> huxl3y: yes
[08:55] <silverferro> how can i make it promt me for a password
[08:55] <ZeZu> pretty sure its rebooted and came up before, but suddenly it can't find the host ...
[08:55] <ibm_> vaxius: sudo apt-cdrom add, i get found 0 package indexes,... unable to locate any package files,
[08:55] <tiyowan> euxneks: Check out System -> Keyboard Shortcuts?
[08:56] <ZeZu> unless its came unplugged
[08:56] <pereclies> ok can someone help me out? i'm rather frustrated with trying to get wine to launch the installer for WoW because I can't copy the files from teh dvd to a directory that wine can read
[08:56]  * onetinsoldier remebers the first time he got linux installed and stared at a bash command prompt, then timidly typed in   help  and pressed enter
[08:56] <lut4rp> onetinsoldier: LOL
[08:56] <macjason0607> question .. if i make a folder that has mp3's into an iso .. can i just burn the iso to a cd and it will be an mp3 cd ?
[08:56] <onetinsoldier> lol!
[08:56] <lut4rp> onetinsoldier: how long ago was that? :)
[08:56] <huxl3y> rdw200169: I see a lo, eth0, vnet0, pan0
[08:57] <rdw200169> huxl3y: ah, vnet0 is the fake interface created
[08:57] <tiyowan> macjason0607: Well if you *burn* the iso, it'll just be an iso. If you *burn* the image from an iso, it'll have the mp3s.
[08:57] <daedelus> also anyone know how to uninstall an nvidia driver downloaded directly from nvidia not through a package manager
[08:57] <euxneks> tiyowan, well, see the thing is, it only started doing this after I ran mplayer in fullscreen mode
[08:57] <euxneks> from the command line
[08:57] <pereclies> anyone know how to copy hidden files off a dvd?
[08:57] <onetinsoldier> lut4rp: very long time.. however, i have only used linux off and on since then. and am pretty rusty right now. i think it was like 1997.. maybe 1996, i'm not sure -->  Red Hat 5.0
[08:57] <tiyowan> euxneks: Um...hmm...far as I know...there's a shortcut assigned to your up key.
[08:58] <huxl3y> rdw200169: when I copy the default DHCP code to my /etc/network/interfaces file and reloggin for the settings to take place I loose my internet lol
[08:58] <Mad_Wifi_er> Anybody that's been able to set up Ubuntu as a wireless access point?
[08:58] <rdw200169> huxl3y: put your net config back the way it was
[08:58] <rdw200169> huxl3y: can you get into the vm?
[08:58] <tiyowan> euxneks: Could you please go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts and look beside the heading Take A Screenshot?
[08:58] <ibm_> I have cdrom & dvdrw, howto: apt-cdrom add ->for my dvdrw
[08:59] <huxl3y> rdw200169: not yet this is as far as i've gotten
[08:59] <euxneks> yeah that says "Print"
[08:59] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: it's possible, depends mostly on the wireless card
[08:59] <rdw200169> huxl3y: you haven't tried to install windows yet?
[08:59] <euxneks> i tried clicking it and pressing the up key and it's recognized as "Up"
[08:59] <huxl3y> rdw200169: not yet never got passed this bridge part
[08:59] <silverferro> Too many conversations overwealming the main....anyone how can help a noob with wlan and blutooth please private me.thanks in advance
[08:59] <rdw200169> huxl3y: you can skip networking for now, it's not necessary
[08:59] <mushrmcheeseomlt> anyone using ubuntu here and has experiences of their system hanging or freezing? i'd sincerely would like to know why and how i can prevent it thanks
[08:59] <euxneks> tiyowan, tells me that "Up" would make typing impossible which I agree, but I can't remove the shortcut :P
[08:59] <rdw200169> huxl3y: an dyou don't have to set up a bridge, just use vnet0
[08:59] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: I've got an Atheros. Actually, it works now, except I can't figure out how to turn on WEP
[08:59] <tiyowan> euxneks: Odd. Set that back to Print.
[08:59] <huxl3y> rdw200169: ok I'll restore the code to:
[08:59] <huxl3y> auto lo
[08:59] <huxl3y> iface lo inet loopback
[08:59] <ZeZu> WTF,  sshd is running just fine, and it can't find the host, did linux forget its hostname or my router magically decide not to let it work anymore
[09:00] <euxneks> The shortcut "Up" cannot be used because it will become impossible to type using this key. Please try with a key such as Control, Alt or Shift at the same time.
[09:00] <rdw200169> huxl3y: yeah, just let NetworkManager deal with networking
[09:00] <tiyowan> euxneks: Set it back to print, log out and log in. Maybe that'll clear it up?
[09:00] <pereclies> yeah, anyone know how to copy hidden files off a dvd?
[09:00] <ZeZu> seems linux forgot its hostname
[09:00] <euxneks> tiyowan, it's been set to print the whole time though :\
[09:00] <silverferro> Too many conversations overwealming the main....anyone how can help a noob with wlan and blutooth please private me.thanks in advance
[09:00] <ZeZu> even though it displays it at the prompt
[09:00] <ZeZu> annoying
[09:00] <tiyowan> euxneks: Try it for its own sake? :-)
[09:00] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: Do you know about setting up /etc/networking/interfaces? I think the problem must be there.
[09:00] <rdw200169> huxl3y: using firestarter, you can have vnet0 act as a network internet connection host
[09:00] <vaxius> ibm_: sudo echo "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.1)]/ intrepid main restricted
[09:00] <vaxius> " >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: cp -v /path/.* /to/destination ?
[09:01] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: yes, but you don't need to worry about it
[09:01] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: skip networking for now
[09:01] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: get windows installed and running
[09:01] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: ok, where should I look?
[09:01] <euxneks> well I'm sure it will fix itself  once I restart X
[09:02] <vaxius> ibm_: that's supposed to be one line, not sure why it posted in two
[09:02] <tiyowan> euxneks: Try?
[09:02] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: you mean the GUI?
[09:02] <nexus23> i installed libx264 but i keep getting this error http://pastebin.com/m27ccd048
[09:02] <pereclies> onetinesoldier: thanks for the response but the -v option doesnt work for me
[09:02] <euxneks> tiyowan, I have another unrelated question, will in  a bit :D thanks
[09:02] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessAccessPoint
[09:02] <tiyowan> euxneks: Go ahead.
[09:02] <euxneks> on boot, my system hangs until I log in CLI and "sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart"
[09:03] <euxneks> after which the system then continues to boot normally
[09:03] <huxl3y> rdw200169: ok thanks I'll move on ahead and try to config the rest of this
[09:03] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: hmm, interesting. and it doesn't copy any files either? do you get any response?
[09:03] <rdw200169> huxl3y: yeah, networking is the last of your worries, you can do that on the fly later
[09:03] <huxl3y> rdw200169: ah ok nice
[09:03] <rdw200169> huxl3y: i'm gonna specify this: install firestarter
[09:04] <rdw200169> huxl3y: it's an excellent firewall that has 'Internet Connection Sharing' like in windows
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> huxl3y: and install   iptraf
[09:04] <pereclies> onetinsoldier: i ran "cp -vr /media/cdrom0/ /home/pereclies/Desktop/" and it made an empty directory on my desktop labeled cdrom0
[09:04] <SamuraiDan> hi all
[09:04] <huxl3y> rdw200169: ok thanks man I appreciate it will it conflict in anyway with iptables default setup?
[09:04] <rdw200169> huxl3y: set up vnet0 to be the connection to share to , and eth0 to be the one internet comes from
[09:04] <tiyowan> euxneks: I have no clue about that. :)
[09:04] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: are you sure the dvd is mounted?
[09:04] <rdw200169> huxl3y: then, tell firestarter to set up a dhcp server whatzit
[09:04] <euxneks> tiyowan, thanks :)
[09:05] <tiyowan> euxneks: But I'm sure the experienced users here can help you fix that.
[09:05] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: sounds like it isn't mounted... type   mount  ...and look for it to be mounted on a mount point
[09:05] <pereclies> onetinesoldier: OMFG thanks a lot
[09:05] <huxl3y> rdw200169: both installed
[09:05] <rdw200169> huxl3y: in the manual network configuration option in Network Manager, manually assign an ip and subnet to vnet0, perhaps 192.168.0.1
[09:05] <rdw200169> huxl3y: subnet /24
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: if it doesn't show up in that display, then you need to mount it
[09:06] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: you're welcome
[09:06] <rdw200169> huxl3y: the same subnet for firestarter's dhcp server whatzit options too
[09:06] <DarkKnight> raylu; how do i allow a directory to have FTP access
[09:06] <mushrmcheeseomlt> what are the other support channels for ubuntu aside from IRC chat? thanks
[09:06] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: thanks, I've done some of what's explained in that document, but there's no discussion of WEP -- that's where I'm stuck
[09:06] <rdw200169> huxl3y: specifying the gateway as 192.168.0.1
[09:06] <huxl3y> rdw200169: system > pref > network config?
[09:06] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: i don't know what to say on that regard :(
[09:06] <tiyowan> mushrmcheeseomlt: help.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <rdw200169> huxl3y: yeah, that'll do it too
[09:07] <chetnick> hey guys, i was messing with fonts, can somebody check quick what are default fonts in ubuntu?
[09:07] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: ok, thanks
[09:07] <tiyowan> chetnick: Sans
[09:07] <chetnick> tiyowan: thanks
[09:07] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: at least you can add yourself to the small list of people who actually pulled of the tricky 'Master Mode'
[09:08] <pereclies> onetinsoldier: thanks a lot.  that was it.... stupid mistake.
[09:08] <onetinsoldier> pereclies: np. it happens. i know i've done the same b4
[09:08] <rdw200169> huxl3y: then, in windows, it should pull ip/dns/sn correctly
[09:08] <Mad_Wifi_er> rdw200169: heh, yeah but don't ask how long it took me to get that far ;)
[09:08] <rdw200169> huxl3y: if dhcp doesn't work, just assign 192.168.0.2 ip 255.255.255.0 sn 192.168.0.1 gw
[09:09] <r0ny> hi my http-alt port listening on tcp6 rather than tcp,any ideas?
[09:09] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: i would have just used a cheap wireless router ;)
[09:09] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: and set it up in 'switch mode'
[09:09] <m0t0n`> ubuntu rules
[09:09] <rdw200169> Mad_Wifi_er: to piggy back off my desktop's network on the other interface
[09:09] <chetnick> tiyowan: can you tell me original size ? :) please :)
[09:09] <vaxius> r0ny: you could disable ipv6
[09:09] <DarkKnight> hey i just had some doubt....during installations...for partitioning....when we select use entire disk.....it partitions itself and no specific mount type is mentioned.....will it create no problems when using a system with such install
[09:09] <tiyowan> m0t0n: Is that a problem? ;)
[09:10] <rdw200169> huxl3y: the dns should be the same as what you have in the host os
[09:10] <tiyowan> chetnick: 8 I think.
[09:10] <rdw200169> huxl3y: if you can ping 192.168.0.1 from the guest, 192.168.0.2, you're good
[09:10] <m0t0n`> nope I abandoned xp for months now virus free
[09:10] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: and, no expensive upgrades in incompatibilities !
[09:11] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: *and*
[09:11] <m0t0n`> hehe
[09:11] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: no $200 vista upgrade just to spend $300 on the windows 7 upgrade !
[09:11] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: mark my words, i've called it
[09:12] <m0t0n`> I tried vista...for about 6 months.. terrible
[09:12] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: yes.. it should be no problem. i use 9 partitions here tho, 10th is swap
[09:12] <m0t0n`> I guarantee it man
[09:12] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: what did you expect? (hahah) it's the new 'windows me'
[09:12] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: i hear that!
[09:12] <tiyowan> !off-topic
[09:13] <m0t0n`> I was running it on 3gigs of ram too
[09:13] <tiyowan> Off-topic. But I think the people who jump on the linux boat now, are going to avoid a lot of pain with Win7.
[09:13] <rdw200169> onetinsoldier: m0t0n`, pretty soon windows will be more expensive than my soul
[09:13] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; will this be helpful when there are more than 2 users on a single desktop system
[09:13] <huxl3y> Winblows is awful can't wait until we can play games run adobe CS4 on linux and just be done with it :p
[09:13] <m0t0n`> I have a good question
[09:14] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: yeah, we gotta throw that jerk that took us off the track back on topic
[09:14] <m0t0n`> I'm running ubuntu on a sanyo 32inch lcd tv and the resolution is not quite right but very close
[09:14] <vaxius> tiyowan: maybe, but i hear it's just an overhaul of vista to make it suck less
[09:14] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: that was me, i know (hahaha)
[09:14] <m0t0n`> suck less.. haha
[09:14] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: is it a new monitor?
[09:15] <tiyowan> vaxius: Yep. But it has some other terrible issues with it.
[09:15] <m0t0n`> nope its just a tv..  dvi to hdmi
[09:15] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: how many partitions you have doesn't really make a wholelot difference, it' mostly about security(seperate partitions are better), and if something happens to one one of your partitions, data loss is likely to be minimized
[09:15] <m0t0n`> gforce
[09:15] <xchatlap> m0t0n`: perhaps switch off overscan on the tv
[09:15] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: ubuntu 8.10 uses the new config-less x.org, but that doesn't mean you can't use xorg.conf for special situations
[09:15] <onetinsoldier> s/wholelot/whole lot of
[09:15] <m0t0n`> im running hardy
[09:16] <rdw200169> m0t0n`: if you're sending digital, you could just set up modelines in a xorg.conf file
[09:16] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; and what about a user's personal files storage space....will this decrease it
[09:16] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: nice vim reference :-)
[09:16] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: not vim really.. sed
[09:16] <ianm_> rdw200169: do wacoms work better in config-less x?
[09:16] <rdw200169> ianm_: i don't know, personally, i haven't upgraded
[09:16] <m0t0n`> I was reading a lil about xorg.conf but it's a lil confusing
[09:17] <rdw200169> ianm_: but i do know that the bamboo is supposed to have much better support
[09:17] <racarter> i don't seem to have sound on my ubuntu 8.10 toshiba satellite laptop...
[09:17] <tiyowan> DarkKnight: I'd recommend you read some of the guides over at the Linux Documentation Project. *Very* helpful and informative.
[09:17] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: oh, i didn't know that started with sed
[09:17] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: will it decrease if you do it as one big partition?
[09:17] <apo_> ianm_: Wacoms work better if you're not using Mathematica or Skype.
[09:17] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: yes...  s/  is sed command
[09:17] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; i hope not...
[09:17] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: no.. it will not
[09:17] <rdw200169> ianm_: i feel pathetic now, i can't remember the applications that let's you change wacom settings on the fly, instead of specifying them in xorg.conf
[09:18] <apo_> onetinsoldier: That wouldn't work in sed.
[09:18] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; okkk...thanq
[09:18] <onetinsoldier> apo_: true
[09:18] <m0t0n`> do I just find the proper resolution and add it to the .conf?
[09:18] <rdw200169> ianm_: regardless, with that application, i didn't need to do anything in xorg, like specifying 'absolute' or 'relative' or which button's were assigned for what etc...
[09:19] <rdw200169> ianm_: it did come with the wacom tools in the linux package that housed it, but it was broken in 8.04, might be be (should be) fixed now
[09:19] <ianm_> rdw200169: I still have to reboot with my wacom connected to use it (until a sleep/resume, then it stops working)
[09:19] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; can you help me with getting a installation guide for client sever systems with each step explained in detailed way.... i want to install ubuntu onto the clients through ftp
[09:20] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: just look it up to make sure, the same works in vim
[09:20] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: *looked
[09:20] <afancy> Hi, sometimes,my application window is frozen that cannot accept keyboard input, like terminal Konsole etc. But wait a moment, or switch to other application then come back, it can accept the input again. What is the reason?
[09:21] <rdw200169> ianm_: yeah, i remember having to fool with the way X recognized my wacom, particularly since i didn't want x to accidentaly thing it was a mouse, which did happen a lot
[09:21] <Yoyoto> Hello, I'm having trouble using my wireless card with ubuntu, I've followed a guide word for word specifically for my card with no luck
[09:21] <vaxius> afancy: is there an application doing a lot of work when this happens?
[09:21] <onetinsoldier> DarkKnight: no.. i cannot, sorry
[09:21] <huxl3y> rdw200169: sudo apt-get remove kvm qemu - I hate being GUI dependant but I am pirated vmware ftw!
[09:22] <DarkKnight> onetinsoldier; thanq
[09:22] <DarkKnight> can anyone help me with getting a installation guide for client sever systems with each step explained in detailed way.... i want to install ubuntu onto the clients through ftp
[09:22] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: ahh, true. i think it's becase some external commands are available in vim
[09:22] <rdw200169> huxl3y: you could also try virtual box, i've been very happy with it
[09:22] <randal> Does anyone know how to install emerald theme manager
[09:22] <nexus23> is there a thesaurus equivalent of dict?
[09:23] <rdw200169> randal: apt-get install emerald
[09:23] <nexus23> or can dict use a thesaurus instead of a dictionary?
[09:23] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: interesting, all this time i thought i've been using a built-in function
[09:23] <huxl3y> rdw200169:  never heard of that one thought there was only xen, kvm & vmware thanks I'll study up on it
[09:23] <randal> rdw200169: thanks
[09:23] <afancy> vaxius: not much work. it always happnends but before i am using Ubuntu8.04, it never happens like this, but happens on Ubuntu8.10
[09:23] <Boohbah> huxl3y: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
[09:23] <DarkKnight> can anyone help me with getting a installation guide for client sever systems with each step explained in detailed way.... i want to install ubuntu onto the clients through ftp
[09:24] <Boohbah> huxl3y: Virtuozzo/OpenVZ is a big one too
[09:24] <rdw200169> huxl3y: it's made by sun microsystems, consequentially, they licensed part of it to windows, and that 'Virtual PC', the difference is that virtual box is open source, heavily developed, and supports usb
[09:24] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: you should look at a vimrc file sometime.. whoa
[09:24] <Yoyoto> Do I have anychance of using wireless?
[09:24] <DarkKnight> can anyone help me with getting a installation guide for client sever systems with each step explained in detailed way.... i want to install ubuntu onto the clients through ftp
[09:24] <randal> rdw200169: randal@randal-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install emerald
[09:24] <randal> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:24] <randal> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:24] <rdw200169> huxl3y: whereas virtual pc is slow garbage
[09:24] <rdw200169> randal: close synaptic
[09:24] <Boohbah> huxl3y: rdw200169: not really, virtualbox was developed by innotek and bought by sun recently
[09:24] <xyxxl> I use VirtualBox, I'm rather happy with it right now.
[09:24] <randal> rdw aff im doing an update ok thanks
[09:24] <rdw200169> Boohbah: that's in the past now!
[09:25] <vaxius> !info emerald | randal
[09:25] <huxl3y> rdw200169: how is virtual box on performance?
[09:25] <randal> rdw200169: aff im doing an update ok thanks
[09:25] <rdw200169> huxl3y: it's very good, supports multiple cores very well
[09:25] <afancy> Hi, sometimes,my application window is frozen that cannot accept keyboard input, like terminal Konsole etc. But wait a moment, or switch to other application then come back, it can accept the input again. What is the reason?
[09:25] <hasibullah_> bye
[09:25] <rdw200169> huxl3y: so and all the processor features, like virtualization, both intel and amd
[09:25] <rdw200169> huxl3y: work out of the obx
[09:26] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: yeah, even mine has 257 lines
[09:26] <Boohbah> afancy: which app is it?
[09:26] <afancy> Boohbah: Konsole
[09:26] <rdw200169> dang, i forgot to tell randal to start emerald after he installed it...
[09:26] <Boohbah> afancy: kde4?
[09:26] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: :-)
[09:27] <afancy> Boohbah: GNOME
[09:27] <Yoyoto> Hello, I'm having trouble using my wireless card with ubuntu, I've followed a guide word for word specifically for my card with no luck
[09:27]  * crash_dumbie wonders if the rainbow works
[09:27] <huxl3y> rdw200169: ok you talked me into it thanks - I'll try my luck with this documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[09:27] <Boohbah> afancy: why are you using konsole in gnome?
[09:27] <rdw200169> huxl3y: their network instructions should be much easier, side note: virtual pc machines work in virtual box ***
[09:27] <Boohbah> afancy: you gotta load gtk+ and qt and kdelibs that way.
[09:27] <Ketrel> The "InputDevice" section no longer appears to be in xorg.conf, where was it moved to?
[09:27] <euxneks> tiyowan, fyi restarting X fixed up arrow issue
[09:27] <afancy> Boohbah: it is a nice terminal. I cannot find a better one for Gnome
[09:27] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: i like my automatic stuff; it has code folding too, along with automatic code highlight depending on what you have open...i love vim
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: so probably causing strain on your system due to all the extra libs needed
[09:28] <luddite> dr_willis : yes thats what i need to run - gnome-settings. thatnks\\
[09:28] <Asad2005_> how to list package version number from command line
[09:28] <tiyowan> euxneks: Useful to know. :-)
[09:28] <rdw200169> huxl3y: so, if you're smart, you could download a developer image of windows from the microsoft website, and use that til it expires... *hint* hint *hint*
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: check top, ps, lsof for the pid of your konsole.
[09:28] <jileeann> 8.10 ibex laptop install and a dead usb mouse any ideas ?
[09:28] <Boohbah> afancy: do you have plenty of free RAM?
[09:29] <huxl3y> rdw200169: oh no worries I got a win iso on my desktop for that I think
[09:29] <dilan728> hi
[09:29] <tiyowan> jileeann: Open up a terminal window and type lsusb.
[09:29] <afancy> Boohbah: u mean Konsole consumes large amount RAM?
[09:29] <jileeann> not detected
[09:29] <afancy>  8949 xiliu     20   0 91004  20m  13m R    1  0.6   0:05.60 konsole
[09:29] <tiyowan> jileeann: Not to be rather curt here, but...use another usb mouse?
[09:29] <Boohbah> afancy: not necessarily, just that loading libs for both kde and gnome can take lots of ram.
[09:30] <vaxius> kuake ftw!
[09:30] <jileeann> no joy :-/
[09:30] <Boohbah> afancy: remember that kde4 is still in development and not the most resource-friendly either
[09:30] <jileeann> tiyowan, and it works in the desktop
[09:30] <afancy> Boohbah: so, i should uninstall these stuff
[09:31] <tiyowan> jileean: Plugging in another usb mouse doesn't work?
[09:31] <jileeann> looking for one
[09:31] <Yoyoto> sooo uhh anyhelp on my wireless situation?
[09:31] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: roger that. did you see this from rdw200169 ? --> http://pida.co.uk/
[09:32] <rdw200169> go into an empty directory, /home/user/pida, whatever
[09:33] <jileeann> tiyowan, there is a panel in the gui under mouse conf that asks for program to run when a mouse is plugged in , any ideas ? - still looking for a fsckn mouse grrr
[09:33] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: omg, is that vim it's using as the editor?  i'm coding with that tomorrow!
[09:33] <huxl3y> rdw200169: jeez virtual box is NICE thanks a ton man
[09:33] <huxl3y> rdw200169: Linux is all about digging for the good apps...
[09:34] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: wow, i'm so geeky, getting excited over a new ide...*sigh*
[09:34] <tiyowan> jileeann: mouse.conf? Could you give me a full path to the file? I could check mine out and see.
[09:34] <rdw200169> huxl3y: glad to help!
[09:35] <randal> what is a good dock for ubuntu
[09:35] <Walty> randal: cairo?
[09:35] <tiyowan> randal: awn?
[09:36] <vaxius> !info cairo-dock | randal
[09:36] <Walty> I dont really like any docks
[09:36] <xyxxl> I don't like docks either
[09:36] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: hehe, i thought you might like.. but to really get it installed you need to /msg rdw200169
[09:36] <Yoyoto> mmm can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[09:37] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: why?
[09:38] <hasibullah> hi
[09:39] <Boohbah> afancy: yeah, what were you trying to do with Konsole that you can't do with gnome-terminal?
[09:39] <raylu> sigh
[09:39] <hasibullah> i installed wine in my computer but after that my audio and video songs are't working
[09:39] <raylu> i couldn't get xscreensaver to compile
[09:39] <raylu> and flurry is no longer packaged :9
[09:39]  * Yoyoto feels invisble
[09:39] <raylu> *:(
[09:39] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: there is some source that you'll have to download and compile.. using hg(similar to cvs or svn)
[09:39] <krishnan> hasibulla: what is wine?
[09:39] <Boohbah> raylu: it's not in the ubuntu version?
[09:39] <Boohbah> krishnan: windows emulator
[09:39] <raylu> Boohbah: nope.
[09:40] <jileeann> tiyowan, system > preference > removable drives and media >input devices >mice
[09:40] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: hg?  never heard of it
[09:40] <raylu> Boohbah: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver_5.07-0ubuntu3/changelog
[09:40] <krishnan> Boohbah: what does it actually do
[09:40] <hasibullah> it is an appllication that can run microsoft programs
[09:40] <Boohbah> raylu: i would guess you are missing some dev libs
[09:40] <raylu> Boohbah: i would too. but configure says i'm fine
[09:40] <jileeann> tiyowan, sry about the delay the kids are up late
[09:40] <tiyowan> jileeann: I'm sorry. Are you using ubuntu 8.10?
[09:41] <jileeann> tiyowan, 8.10 studio
[09:41] <koshar1> vaxius hg is componant of mercurial.
[09:41] <huxl3y> rdw200169: While your around do you know of anything close to winSCP? This Filezilla just isn't up to par
[09:41] <Boohbah> krishnan: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ
[09:41] <tiyowan> jileeann: I really don't know what could be the problem, but I'd recommend that you plug in another mouse.
[09:41] <Antonz> jileeann:I can't find "removable drives and media
[09:41] <raylu> huxl3y: what's wrong with just scp?
[09:41] <vaxius> koshar1: just found that out, thanks though
[09:42] <Boohbah> raylu: hmmm, can you pastebin the error?
[09:42] <Agion> how can I put a program to run a program like avant-window-navigator or pidgin automatically when I log in?
[09:42] <rdw200169> huxl3y: secure copy,huh, well, you could just use the scp command
[09:42] <huxl3y> raylu: yea your right I should just learn the scp command line
[09:42] <huxl3y> raylu: easier said then done tho
[09:42] <rdw200169> raylu: hah you beat me, i missed that
[09:42] <jileeann> tiyowan, just did and no joy
[09:42] <hasibullah> boohbah: i installed wine in my computer but my audio and video aren't working
[09:42] <raylu> Boohbah: it's a make error about X11/something.h not being found
[09:42] <raylu> huxl3y: there is also sshfs
[09:42] <raylu> Boohbah: but i had libx11-dev installed, and configure agreed
[09:42] <huxl3y> I think that's what I read on the forums anyhow - just learn scp... :p
[09:43] <Boohbah> huxl3y: scp /path/to/local/file user@remote:/your/path
[09:43] <rdw200169> well, what you probably really want, is to just mount a remote ssh computer as a drive
[09:43] <rdw200169> huxl3y: i forgot to say your name on the former comment
[09:43] <tiyowan> jileeann: Hmm. I'm out of ideas. But sounds to me that you need to tinker around with some configuration files. Sorry. The more experienced people could help you out.
[09:43] <huxl3y> Boohbah: thanks copying that down
[09:43] <vaxius> Agion: you can add it in one of the tabs under System > Preferences > Sessions
[09:43] <the-erm> sshfs?
[09:43] <rdw200169> huxl3y: Places -> Connect to Server...
[09:43] <jileeann> Antonz, system > preference > removable drives and media >input devices >mice
[09:43] <rdw200169> the-erm: you too...
[09:43] <Agion> thanks
[09:43] <Boohbah> rdw200169: ehh probably want to use NFS or Samba for that
[09:44] <rdw200169> Boohbah: this works very well actually
[09:44] <huxl3y> rdw200169: i've been hearing alot about that - I'm going to have to study up on it
[09:44] <vaxius> Agion: np
[09:44]  * jileeann is looking around for a bigger hammer
[09:44] <nowy> Hello from iced Spain...brrr :-S
[09:44] <Sam_e> miss understanding now, i dont know with your language,,,please tell
[09:44] <rdw200169> Boohbah: for small stuff, ssh is designed with this in mind, it's not just a terminal, even though that's what people tend to use it for...
[09:44] <Sam_e> aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:44] <Sam_e> ssssssssssssssss
[09:44] <jileeann> tiyowan,
[09:44] <Sam_e> iam dododl
[09:44] <hasibullah> boohah: how can i solve the audio and video problem
[09:44] <Sam_e> zazadodollll
[09:45] <rdw200169> huxl3y: did you go to 'Connect to Server...'?
[09:45] <jileeann> Antonz,
[09:45] <Sam_e> dasar orang aneh
[09:45] <Sam_e> aneh
[09:45] <rdw200169> huxl3y: this is *really* easy
[09:45] <jileeann> thanx !!
[09:45] <raylu> Boohbah: nobody "wants" the headache that is samba
[09:45] <Sam_e> yang lebih aneh lagi sapa hayooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[09:45] <raylu> Boohbah: it doesn't even work well in windows =\
[09:45] <Sam_e> enteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:45] <sja_> hello, all! how i can configure xorg.conf for my devices in u8.10. this file is 0 byres length...
[09:45] <Sam_e> ape loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:46] <vaxius> !xorg.conf | sja_
[09:46] <hasibullah> hello every body how can i solve my audio and video after i install wine in my computer
[09:46] <Boohbah> raylu: yes, CIFS is not a nice protocol
[09:47] <TecR0c> ehhhhhhhhh
[09:47] <TecR0c> i can't get cairo to work
[09:47] <Boohbah> hasibullah: that depends on your application, hardware, and configuration
[09:47] <raylu> !info cairo
[09:47] <TecR0c> i have installed it and i have chosen a theme and i select ok
[09:47] <TecR0c> but then I get a bunch of errors in the terminal =/
[09:47] <vaxius> TecR0c: just start it and it should pop up
[09:48] <jileeann> sja_, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[09:49] <TecR0c> vaxius, it doesn't start for me
[09:49] <jileeann> sja_, have fun
[09:49] <vazdyk> hello, i have a problem with skype. It doesn't show me the correct image. But with other programs(like Cheese) image is correct. What to do ?
[09:49] <kid> hi
[09:49] <kid> hi
[09:49] <TecR0c> i ran alt + F2 and typed cairo-dock and nothin happens ?
[09:49] <Boohbah> TecR0c: please pastebin the error messages
[09:49] <Boohbah> TecR0c: start it from a console to see
[09:50] <TecR0c> yeah i get heaps of error's
[09:50] <TecR0c> saying warning :  (cairo-dock-application-factory.c:cairo_dock_create_surface_from_xpixmap:123)  etc etc
[09:50] <jileeann> sja_, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[09:50] <jileeann> sja_, least you could do is say thanx :-/
[09:52] <nowy> exists this file: hsfmodem_7.68.00.12full_k2.6.27_9_generic_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip ? i need IT
[09:52] <Boohbah> TecR0c: sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get install libpixman-1-0
[09:52] <Boohbah> err s/upgrade/update/
[09:52] <jileeann> used to be a girl could get at least the empty promise of a foot rub ! wtf is the linux community falling to ?
[09:53] <sja_> jileeann, thanx ^)
[09:53] <jileeann> :-) your welcome
[09:53] <raylu> this is what happens when something becomes popular, jileeann
[09:53] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: you talk to rdw200169 ?
[09:54] <jileeann> raylu, what ? there's "only" 1300 lusers in here :-)
[09:54] <computer> how do i encrypt my whole system?
[09:55] <vaxius> onetinsoldier: yep, i'm copying the instructions so i can install later when i have time
[09:55] <Boohbah> jileeann: expecting special treatment is sort of hypocritical, isn't it?
[09:55] <jileeann> computer, hide the keyboard
[09:55] <m0t0n`_> did u know dell is putting ubuntu and some of their laptops and desktops?
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: cool, roger that. i think rdw200169 accidentally has me on ignore. lloks like he then tried to remove it, but i think he goofed on the remove.. lol
[09:56] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: yes, so is ASUS
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> vaxius: anyway, bedtime here
[09:56] <jileeann> Boohbah, not really expecting special treatment , I'm still here after all failed putting my $0.02 worth in
[09:56] <onetinsoldier> g'night all! have fun
[09:56] <m0t0n`_> good I hope more people hear about it and jump on ubuntu..  much better os
[09:57] <huxl3y> Anyone here ever have there GUI lock up? everything still running in the background and able to alt-tab etc but no mouse clicks until logout/login
[09:57] <tiyowan> Have a good one, onetinsoldier.
[09:57] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: :-)
[09:57] <jileeann> tiyowan, thanx again I'll keep at it
[09:57] <m0t0n`_> I would like to be able to play more games on ubuntu tho beside dos box
[09:57] <Boohbah> jileeann: we're glad you're here! :)
[09:57] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: wine?
[09:58] <imachine> hi
[09:58] <m0t0n`_> I tried oblivion under wine but not so hot
[09:58] <raylu> computer: isn't there an option to do that during install
[09:58] <imachine> I've resized my boot partition in ubuntu 8.04 64bit using the 8.10 32bit cd
[09:58] <m0t0n`_> think i'll try gta san andreas
[09:58] <imachine> it went smooth but now I have "GRUB" printed during boot and nothing else happens.
[09:58] <Ranakah> gta SA working sloow
[09:58] <imachine> is there some simple way like running update-grub from the bootcd ?
[09:58] <Ranakah> :S
[09:58] <jileeann> Boohbah, but I DO SO WANT TO FEAST ON A TROLL I do , just for old times sake
[09:58] <TecR0c> Boohbah, i still get errors
[09:59] <Boohbah> huxl3y: sure, alt-tab to console and run top to see what is eating your CPU
[09:59] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | imachine
[09:59] <imachine> I'm in the process of getting a 64bit cd so I can chroot from it.
[09:59] <TecR0c> cairo_dock_create_surface_from_image: assertion `rsvg_handle != NULL' failed This pixmap is undefined. It can happen for exemple for a window that is in a minimized state when the dock is launching. etc etc
[09:59] <jileeann> brb
[09:59] <dr_willis> imachine,  i always use the unetbootin, or that usb-disk tool to make a bootable thumbdrive. :) thats Much more fun!
[10:00] <raylu> imachine: simple way of doing what? grub-install?
[10:00] <m0t0n`_> what's the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[10:00] <raylu> m0t0n`_: what kind of experiene do you want?
[10:00] <raylu> *experience?
[10:01] <Boohbah> TecR0c: tried googling for part of that error?
[10:01] <raylu> !torrent
[10:01] <raylu> it's a tough question :P
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> experience?
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> I belong to demonoid
[10:01] <m0t0n`_> basically all I'm using it for
[10:01] <raylu> m0t0n`_: do you want a minimalistic, highly configurable, command-line client
[10:01] <Sinmaster> Hey guys, can anybody tell me why when i try to load my LIN/Ubu OS after i've installed it it's says me "Error loading the operation system." ?
[10:01] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: the default transmission works fine for me... except it won't minimize to the toolbar anymore when i close it
[10:01] <raylu> m0t0n`_: do you want...azureus (aka meth lab)
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> transmission minimizes for me
[10:02] <imachine> dr_willis, yeah I figured I'd need a bootcd anyway
[10:02] <imachine> and my laptop can't boot from usb.
[10:02] <mpathy> Hi there..
[10:02] <dr_willis> imachine,  BUmmer.
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> azureus is good cuz it's written in java.. seems to be working good
[10:02] <imachine> yeah
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> is it junky?
[10:02] <imachine> grub is uni-bit yeah? I mean, it's the same for 64bit and 32bit ?
[10:02] <imachine> no difference tehre eah ?
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: it uses way too many resources in my experience, java is ew...
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> I'm using ipblock too
[10:02] <raylu> m0t0n`_: and az devs don't really agree with ubuntu devs
[10:02] <m0t0n`_> good point
[10:03] <raylu> m0t0n`_: someone in #ubuntu-devel explained recently
[10:03] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_:from another point of view, azureus is BAD because it's written in java :)
[10:03] <Malformation> Correct
[10:03] <chazco> Hi... how can I play a .mkv file? The audio plays in Totem but no video...
[10:03] <m0t0n`_> transmission all the way?
[10:04] <raylu> m0t0n`_: rtorrent is a nice cli client :D
[10:04] <Boohbah> chazco: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=163853
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> thx
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> just wanted to see what u guys think
[10:04] <tiyowan> m0t0n`_: rtorrent?
[10:04] <raylu> Boohbah: java: we'll make a programming language that stops bad coders from writing bad code ... wait...
[10:04] <m0t0n`_> utorrent maybe?
[10:04] <raylu> windows only :P
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> hehe
[10:05] <tiyowan> m0t0n`_: If you want something like utorrent, use ktorrent.
[10:05] <Sinmaster> Hey guys, can anybody tell me why when i try to load my LIN/Ubu OS after i've installed it it's says me "Error loading the operation system." ?
[10:05] <chazco> They seem to play it though, i just get the totem visualisations... if i convert a few seconds with ffmpeg i get video, so i know its in there :)
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> I was using bit torrent og client in xp
[10:05] <Boohbah> raylu: lol
[10:05] <m0t0n`_> what can I do to boost the volume of quiet avi files?
[10:06] <dr_willis> m0t0n`_,  i was thinking the vlc player could boost them by up to 300%
[10:06] <Boohbah> chazco: i'd imagine the ubuntu xine libs are compiled without mkv support
[10:06] <Boohbah> chazco	tried mplayer?
[10:06] <chazco> Boohbah - Hmm... i'm using gstreamer though (i imagine, its Totem)
[10:06] <Veovis_Muad> What is a good beginner IDE for C++?  Or what channel should I go to for more information?
[10:06] <mpathy> I have configured my xorg.conf to have a twinview, with my external 1680x1050 as my primary screen and the 1680x1050 laptop screen as additional. This works, but now when I only work with the laptop, its primary which is completely okay, but it extends the screen also, even when no monitor is connected! http://paste.pocoo.org/show/95278/ is my xorg.conf
[10:06] <jileeann>  /back critters in the yard...
[10:06] <imachine> totem-gstreamer has only one flaw I've come across, it can't play dvd properly
[10:06] <Boohbah> Veovis_Muad: i hear kdevelop is good if you're into kde...
[10:07] <Veovis_Muad> nope, I'm on gnome....
[10:07] <imachine> it doesn't allow for setting the voice/subtitle streams, and one cannot use menus.
[10:07] <imachine> 'cept for that, it's spot on.
[10:07] <Veovis_Muad> I have yet to try KDE
[10:07] <dungdechungminh_> ok
[10:07] <m0t0n`_> is there an option for audio boost in totem?
[10:07] <imachine> m0t0n`_, I don't think so.
[10:07] <imachine> no wait.
[10:07] <imachine> it has software audio.
[10:07] <jileeann> mpathy, http://forum.tuxx-home.at/
[10:07] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: try alsamixer
[10:07] <imachine> so it should "just work" if you top it.
[10:08] <imachine> s/software audio/software audio mixer.
[10:08] <m0t0n`_> sorry i'm a bit of a newbie
[10:08]  * jileeann feels like a broken record
[10:08] <Boohbah> m0t0n`_: i think vlc has that %500 audio gain too...
[10:09] <m0t0n`_> mpathy a better player?
[10:09] <imachine> hey has anyone noticed how you don't have 8.10 working with weather applet in the clock/date applet?
[10:09] <m0t0n`_> vlc support widescreen?
[10:09] <raylu> imachine: actually, yes
[10:09] <imachine> m0t0n`_, everything support it, there's not much to support.
[10:09] <raylu> m0t0n`_: of course. but vlc is bleh
[10:09] <mpathy> jileeann: its a nvidia and only a minimal problem in a working configuration
[10:09] <dr_willis> m0t0n`_,  err.. it supports videos.. :) whatever res you want
[10:09] <imachine> raylu, umm, well yes. it works if you set it up with 8.04 before hand.
[10:09] <dr_willis> I have no issues with vlc, or mplayer..   try them both.. use what you perfer.
[10:09] <imachine> raylu, but one cannot add the localisations on 8.10
[10:09] <raylu> imachine: :(
[10:09] <Boohbah> i find vlc is good for playing weird formats.
[10:09] <mpathy> jileeann: because of that I asked here but it seems to be a half offtopic channel.
[10:10] <m0t0n`_> i don't have it installed i dont think
[10:10] <raylu> m0t0n`_: i'd recommend trying mplayer first. if you don't like the cli, try one of the many guis
[10:10] <jileeann> mpathy, exactly , I do remember seeing something about that in the forum
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, if I add "locations" it just don't work right no list to choose from.
[10:10] <rascal34> help
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, also, do you know where does it pick it's weather off from ?
[10:10] <rascal34> help
[10:10] <bazhang> jileeann, what is that forum you are linking to?
[10:10] <rascal34> please
[10:10] <FloodBot2> rascal34: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <imachine> raylu, the forecasts I mean
[10:10] <Boohbah> !ask | rascal34
[10:10] <mpathy> m0t0n`_: But you are right, VLC is a player who can boost the volume of quiet files without reendcoding them.. even tough its not the best quality
[10:11] <raylu> imachine: no idea.
[10:11] <rascal34> help me somebody , i cannot login to ubuntu
[10:11] <imachine> raylu, I only have the next best thing which is a city 100km away from me... and so it's not always accurate.
[10:11] <rascal34> compiz problem
[10:11] <imachine> but I live in the 2/3rd biggest town in the country
[10:11] <imachine> so I think I deserve to have it on the list :)
[10:11] <jileeann> bazhang, a wealth of xorg info
[10:12] <Boohbah> rascal34: turn off compiz?
[10:12] <bazhang> jileeann, just linking to some random forum is not good practices, please refer to the ubuntu wiki or a specific ubuntuforums post rather than just putting up that link.
[10:13] <mpathy> jileeann: hmm, but for what can I search? If I would know that, google would have helped me already to solve the problem
[10:13] <daedelus> can anyone tell me how to uninstall the nvidia driver that was downloaded from nvidia.com directly and installed from command line?
[10:13] <Boohbah> daedelus: just remove nvidia.ko under your /lib/modules directory
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> !alsa
[10:14] <daedelus> really?
[10:14] <daedelus> no configuration?
[10:14] <Boohbah> daedelus: you also may be able to go into the nvidia source directory and run 'make uninstall'
[10:14] <daedelus> sounds a little to simple
[10:14] <daedelus> and where would i find the nvidia souce directory?
[10:14] <Boohbah> daedelus: well you'll have to configure something to reaplce it...
[10:15] <daedelus> right i was planning on gettin rid of it and installing it with synaptic
[10:15] <rascal34> please help me boonbah
[10:15] <Boohbah> daedelus: installing it with synaptic should automatically overwrite it with no problem
[10:15] <m0t0n`_> vlc rocks man thanks alot exactly what I was looking for!
[10:15] <raylu> m0t0n`_: sigh.
[10:16] <Boohbah> rascal34: disable compiz
[10:16] <daedelus> thats what i thought but i tried it already and im getting a mismatch error
[10:16] <raylu> m0t0n`_: vlc uses its own decoders, so i don't recommend it
[10:16] <rascal34> how to disable , i cant go into desktop
[10:16] <daedelus> trying to run eve online
[10:16] <Veovis_Muaddib> I have another question:  I'm in gnome, and I have the... um... wiggly windows, and they latch on to edges.  But whenever I latch any window to the top panel, it... wiggles and then the top part of the window, the part you grab to move, gets trapped behind the top panel.  I can still see the menus, but I can't move the window.  Any help?
[10:16] <imachine> m0t0n`_, totem-xine is nice
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> but I have really quiet avi files
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> totem is good too
[10:16] <imachine> m0t0n`_, if you want a seamless move from the old totem :)
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> I just need it for a few quiet avi files
[10:16] <imachine> yeah
[10:16] <imachine> I think totem has software audio mixing
[10:16] <m0t0n`_> mostly use totem tho
[10:16] <rascal34> Boohbah: give me terminal command to disable compiz
[10:17] <imachine> which means you get a separate audio level from the one you set up in volume controll
[10:17] <imachine> but yeah
[10:17] <imachine> vlc is cool too
[10:17] <imachine> :)
[10:17] <FloodBot2> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <Boohbah> /usr/bin/metacity --replace &
[10:17] <fuxx> hello, i trying to figure out how to make work special buttons on my laptop. Some of them work, some not. Those not working aren't even shown by xev. I guess i need to configure hal somehow? But which codes i show, how to debug this problem, or where to search for help?
[10:17] <jileeann> bazhang, if I felt it was a random forum I wouldn't have bothered
[10:17] <Boohbah> rascal34: ^ ^
[10:17] <imachine> gnome seems to aim more at ease of use, while kde (and it's application-base) tend to have more wicked options.
[10:17] <imachine> it's all about options there.
[10:17] <imachine> m0t0n`_, so you might want to check say smplayer
[10:17] <imachine> or kmplayer
[10:18] <jileeann> mpathy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412628  for a start
[10:18] <Boohbah> imachine: i'm using kde 3.5 and gnome now because kde4 is not quite ready...
[10:18] <imachine> Boohbah, I know.
[10:19] <imachine> Boohbah, part of the reason I migrated to ubuntu was that my previous distro "upgraded" to kde4
[10:19] <raylu> i remember i used kubuntu a long time ago and kde4 beta was relesed...
[10:19] <imachine> and by the time I realized how to keep 3.5 on it, I already moved to gnome
[10:19] <raylu> i got excited and "not quite ready" didn't even begin to describe the breakage i experienced
[10:19] <imachine> and if I moved to gnome I thought oh, I could just as well try "imrpvoed" gnome, so ubuntu popped into mind.
[10:19] <imachine> and I'm on ubuntu ever since ;)
[10:19] <raylu> imachine: what distro were you using?
[10:20] <imachine> raylu, ArchLinux
[10:20] <imachine> raylu, it was a good year or year an a half with arch ;)
[10:20] <imachine> but all ends well that ends well.
[10:20] <imachine> we have no hard feelings for eachother ;)
[10:21] <themadhatter> Hello all! I am using Ubuntu, and frequently use the Chinese IME in SCIM to type Chinese; but do so inside of an English locale. If I set the system language to Chinese, then the Chinese fonts appear beautifully (keeping my locale as English), but if I set the system locale to English, the fonts look really thin and not appealing at all. Is there a way to correct this?
[10:21] <Boohbah> imachine: almost-ex-gentoo user of 7 years here :)
[10:21] <imachine> Boohbah, yeah it's a mazing innit.
[10:21] <imachine> I think it's a matter of time.
[10:21] <imachine> when LInux will immediately be affiliated with ubuntu
[10:21] <imachine> ;p
[10:21] <imachine> unless they do something so horrific, it will shove us all off to some other dist.
[10:21] <imachine> :D
[10:21] <raylu> imachine: corporate is still redhat
[10:21] <jileeann> Boohbah, 7 years ?! you poor thing :-)
[10:22] <imachine> raylu, dunno mate. redhat, suse...
[10:22] <imachine> raylu, but Ubuntu provides support too :
[10:22] <raylu> imachine: yeah...but nobody buys it from canonical :P
[10:22] <imachine> and I haven't seen dell laptops with redhat:)
[10:22] <xyxxl> Ubuntu is going to need to provide more than desktop support to get into the corporate market
[10:22] <raylu> imachine: i haven't seen people with dell laptops with ubuntu either :P they sell them but, again, nobody buys them
[10:23] <raylu> xyxxl: canonical provides server support..
[10:23] <imachine> it doesn't matter.
[10:23] <imachine> the machine's been set in motion.
[10:23] <jileeann> Boohbah, then again my "milk language" is VMS/VAX
[10:23] <imachine> it's a matter of time, I hear jaunty's all the bomb.
[10:23] <imachine> jileeann, I salute thee
[10:23] <imachine> jileeann, VMS is an abomination imho.
[10:23] <Boohbah> raylu: imachine: yes,  the big iron runs redhat enterprise linux :)
[10:23] <imachine> but I never spent more than a few hours on it.
[10:24] <xyxxl> Canonical does, but i haven't seen any indication that they provide the level of support and expertise in the enterprise-level deployments that Redhat and SuSE do
[10:24] <TecR0c> which one is better, beryl or compiz ?
[10:24] <imachine> TecR0c, it's aonly compiz now.
[10:24] <TecR0c> imachine, what do you mean ?
[10:24] <Boohbah> jileeann: yeah VMS is so old school and awesome! so different from unix
[10:24] <imachine> xyxxl, well, let it roll. it needs time to gain the similar momentum other companies got.
[10:24] <zetheroo> ﻿ I installed Mythbuntu on my Ubuntu system sorta without knowing what it was ... and I want to get rid of the entire thing ... how do I do that? when I try to remove mythbuntu from Synaptic it does not take all the other files with it
[10:24] <imachine> Boohbah, I don't think it's awesome.
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, beryl is no longer
[10:24] <imachine> I think it's a big error ;]
[10:24] <raylu> Boohbah: the big who?
[10:24] <imachine> :D
[10:24] <TecR0c> oh ok
[10:24] <xyxxl> If I'm going to need support for a few thousand machines, I'd be more likely to go with a company that has proven they can do it
[10:25] <jileeann> imachine, I might be dating myself a bit here
[10:25] <Boohbah> imachine: but there are vaxen that have 10 years+ uptime
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, it merged with compiz and became compiz-fusion
[10:25] <imachine> Boohbah, meh
[10:25] <imachine> the OS has potential, so to put it.
[10:25] <xyxxl> imachine, yes, that is very true, Canonical has a lot of work to do, though. They have some steep competition right now.
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, you can still use emerald as a window decorator if you want
[10:25] <imachine> but coming from *NIX, it was WEIRD :-)
[10:25] <Boohbah> raylu: big iron, you know, IBM mainframes :)
[10:26] <knut_> hi, how can i add dokument presets to the right click menu of gnome? im using ubuntu 8.04
[10:26] <ompaul> xyxxl, that could be construed as offtopic, it is not a help subject, they have multi thousand installations - obviously the others have been around longer ergo greater market share
[10:26] <imachine> Boohbah, tbh, if you need "support" for your servers, you should really rethink your administrators.
[10:26] <imachine> Boohbah, also in most places I've seen servers ran either debian or gentoo.
[10:26] <imachine> eventually fbsd.
[10:26] <imachine> ;)
[10:26] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, create a folder in your home directory called "Templates" then create whichever templates you want in there
[10:27] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: thank you :-)
[10:27] <bullgard4> man mii-tool: "This utility checks or sets the status of a network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit." What is a 'network interface’s Media Independent Interface (MII) unit'?
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, you may need to logout and back in to gnome again for the changes to show up
[10:27] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, so emerald isn't primary one either anymore ?
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, its not recommended
[10:27] <Boohbah> imachine: not really, even administrators need support sometimes
[10:27] <imachine> Boohbah, there's always google :-)
[10:28] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what do you recommand ?
[10:28] <jamesbrink> only poopy ones need support
[10:28] <imachine> Boohbah, but it depends.
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, its unstable compared to gtk-window-decorator or kwin.. although I still use emerald :)
[10:28] <imachine> yeah if everything runs well from the software side.
[10:28] <imachine> it's mostly a pebkac.
[10:28] <imachine> so I'd agree with jamesbrink here
[10:28] <Boohbah> imachine: so, how many machines are you responsible for?
[10:28] <jamesbrink> =)
[10:28] <imachine> Boohbah, should I count routers as well?
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, there are no show stopping bugs with it.. perfectly functional.. its just being phased out
[10:29] <koshar1> TecR0c emerald looks great with the reflections plugin
[10:29] <Boohbah> imachine: yes
[10:29] <jamesbrink> imachine, and switches
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> koshar1, that just causes more annoyance
[10:29] <bazhang> !offtopic
[10:29] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: do u have an example for creating such a template? how does it have to be like when i want to make a template for *.odt?
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, about 12
[10:29] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, give or takee one.
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, yeah its essentially just an empty file
[10:29] <imachine> Boohbah, but I don't work as an admin (yet, fully at least).
[10:29] <imachine> bazhang, right, soz.
[10:30] <imachine> I'm off anyway gon try out my new grub fix:)
[10:30] <imachine> brb
[10:30] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what is the most prefered one to use these days ?
[10:30] <jamesbrink> i get to watch a few hundred
[10:30] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, e.g. "New Document.odt"
[10:30] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: ok ill try it
[10:30] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, whichever you prefer
[10:33] <Milos> Does ubuntu server come with a pre-installed firewall?
[10:33] <Milos> If so, which one?
[10:33] <nowy> bye
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> !firewall | Milos
[10:34] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: can i add other menupoints a well?
[10:35] <beastax> hiya, ive just got a headset but im having trouble getting the mic working with applications.  i have unmuted and turned up everything in volume control, and my mic  plays back to me with "Analog Mix" turned up, but no application "hears" my mic - recordings are blank and TeamSpeak sees me as mic and headphones muted
[10:35] <beastax> any suggestions please?
[10:36] <knut_> beastax: maybe u have selected the wrong recording device
[10:36] <TecR0c> Paddy_EIRE, what ones are available ?
[10:36] <Paddy_EIRE> !wm
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> !windowmanager
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[10:37] <beastax> knut_, you mean in the volume control options?
[10:37] <BoogieBoo> Hello, I installed Ubuntu intrepid 32 bits from new, and all the VPN pptp pakets in order to establish a VPN connection to my work place, well it is still not working, HELP
[10:37] <Paddy_EIRE> TecR0c, there are too many to list
[10:37] <knut_> beastax: look unter system -> preferences -> audio
[10:38] <jileeann> ! xorg
[10:38] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, what do you mean?
[10:39] <BoogieBoo> So, If #ubuntu doesn't help,. #ubuntu-bugs either, and this is clearly a PROBLEM with the distribution,What it is supossed to us to do ????? Go back to XP or what?
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> BoogieBoo, dont moan here
[10:39] <Paddy_EIRE> !patience | BoogieBoo #
[10:39] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: when i click with the right mousebutton on my desktop, a menu appears. for that i want to add other menu entries
[10:40] <jileeann> BoogieBoo, that's my job
[10:40] <puneeth> will nexuiz the game require a fast graphic card to play on??
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> I have been asking this question in this channel and #ubuntu-bugs for weeks
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> this is not my first day
[10:40] <beastax> knut_, in system - preferences - sound, which option to change please?
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> and this is a BUG with Intrepid
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> BoogieBoo, the length of time it is taking you is irrelevant
[10:40] <puneeth> i have a sad graphic card... Via unichrome Pro
[10:40] <BoogieBoo> that hasn't been solved yet
[10:40] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo pptp is working for me fine, did you set up the routes?
[10:40] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, do you have the launchpad bug number?
[10:41] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, routers?? If I restar with another computer with XP with the same router configuration is connection successfully to the VPN server
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, yes I know what the menu is... what other entries... like what?
[10:41] <knut_> beastax: i dont know it this will work but look under "audioconference" and try to change the device
[10:41] <beastax> knut_, dont know if this helps at all, but in sound recorder if i record a track, the "level" is showing that i am talking, but playback is still mute
[10:41] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, is there an open bug report on this?
[10:41] <Tapnzout> Paddy_EIRE, really?  Really?  You're gonna continually try and petty-control the guy trying to get help?  Just tell him where to go... if you don't know, ease up.. he's not going crazy
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, I mean do you want a "make me some tea" entry or a "feed the cat" entry??
[10:41] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: you need to set up the routing (i.e. which IPs go through the tunnel)
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, just put in luanchpad "intrepid vpn" and you will see
[10:42] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, please link the specific bug
[10:42] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: whats the difference :-)
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Tapnzout, clear of mate.. he's spamming the channel
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, what routing are you talking about?? With 8.04 this was perfectly working
[10:42] <beastax> knut_, well i dont know what to say - i click test in audioconferencing, i can hear my mic through my headphones
[10:42] <beastax> but no audio software hears it
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Tapnzout, and who are you again O_o
[10:42] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: by default in windows all traffic goes in the tunnel, in ubuntu nothing goes you have to tell it
[10:42] <Tapnzout> !ohmy > Paddy_EIRE
[10:42] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, so Why I didn't do that in 8.04?
[10:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !botabuse > Tapnzout
[10:43] <r0ny> hi any one experienced an issue like tomcat listening on tcp6,rather than tcp
[10:43] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: i don't know about 8.04 i'm telling my experience with 8.10
[10:43] <knut_> beastax: try to experiment with the devices maybe that will work
[10:43] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, the error is "Connection  connected FAILED" I don't even get
[10:43] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, the error is "Connection  FAILED", I even get connected
[10:43] <beastax> knut_, what do you mean?  ive tried blindly changing options as trial and error
[10:44] <beastax> nothing has worked yet
[10:44] <knut_> it could be that u have to select the audiodevice inside the recording software
[10:44] <beastax> took ages just to work out that "Analog Mix" in volume control would turn up my mic
[10:44] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, you are going to have to either give me an example of what you want in that menu or this is not going anywhere :/
[10:44] <BoogieBoo> HERE WE GO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/network-manager-pptp/+bug/284212
[10:44] <BoogieBoo> It is a KNOWN bug of Intrepid
[10:44] <beastax> knut_, thats what i thought but the different software i am trying doesnt have any options that have helped
[10:44] <badawi_mib> BoogieBoo: try connecting using kvpnc if u're bogged down
[10:45] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: for example my bookmarks and places
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, not really..
[10:45] <Paddy_EIRE> !info nautilus-script-manager
[10:46] <BoogieBoo> badawi_mib, I have another computer with Intrepid and the same results, In fact in both computers I was using 8.04 with VPN connection USCCESSFULLY until the last updates. The it was screwed up
[10:46] <jileeann> will ps ax | grep compiz return a pid ?
[10:46] <zero__> hola
[10:46] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, that would be hard coded you would need to do the manual code monkey work yourself and possibly risk breaking it everytime your system updates
[10:47] <Yoyoto> So I'm having an impossible time trying to install ndiswrapper
[10:47] <cristi> uhm can anyone recomend me a sound control program?
[10:47] <Boohbah> cristi: alsamixer
[10:47] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: the nautilus-script-manager would do it?
[10:47] <cristi> Boohbah: my volume control doesn't work anymore btw
[10:47] <Yoyoto> Please help
[10:47] <op4> http://www.alsa-project.org/
[10:48] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, no not really.. but it adds handy menu entries for such things as converting audio/images or resizing them and such
[10:48] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: nice
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, the intention of the Gnome DE is to be minimal.. if you want that level of customisation you should consider a different DE
[10:49] <Yoyoto> Can anyone please help me with ndiswrapper
[10:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | Yoyoto
[10:50] <Yoyoto> the real question is why have I followed every instruction on installing it and still not done it
[10:50] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: is KDE better for that?
[10:50] <jamesbrink> Yoyoto, your doing it wrong
[10:50] <Yoyoto> clearly
[10:51] <op4> what is your wireless nic make and model
[10:51] <cristi> Boohbah: thanks
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !best | knut_
[10:51] <Yoyoto> Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard
[10:52] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: :-)
[10:52] <Yoyoto> I found a how to specific for my card
[10:52] <Yoyoto> but I have no luck
[10:52] <knut_> Paddy_EIRE: i like gnome
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, one moment I have experience with that chipset
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> knut_, me too.. although I like most DE's :)
[10:52] <jileeann> will ps ax | grep compiz return a pid ?
[10:53] <op4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092
[10:53] <jileeann> oops sry
[10:53] <op4> this should work
[10:53] <Yoyoto> op4 thats the thing I started with
[10:53] <Yoyoto> with no luck
[10:53] <blip-> hi all, how can I check that the apache2 http server is properly set up to use php to run php scripts ?   I have php packages installed
[10:53] <BoogieBoo> "Connection FAILED", when trying to Connect to a PPTP VPN network that was working properly in Hardy
[10:54] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone please be my ubuntu bud?
[10:54] <op4> sudo rmmod ndiswrapper sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5 sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, could you do an "lspci" in a terminal and copy and paste the output to pastebin
[10:54] <op4> clean all the old crap off before you start'
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !pastebin | Yoyoto
[10:54] <_nano_> blip-: in  your homepage write a file named index.php which contains just the following command <? phpinfo() ?>
[10:54] <Yoyoto> .... a what?
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> !who | op4
[10:55] <blip-> _nano_, oh nice idea :)  thanks
[10:55] <rookeeeeeeeee> i need an ubuntu buddy
[10:55] <Yoyoto> Paddy_eire a what? I'm new to linux
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, open a terminal and type "lspci" without quotes.. then pastebin the output
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[10:56] <Yoyoto> terminal I know lol
[10:56] <_nano_> blip-: you're welcome :)
[10:56] <jileeann> rookeeeeeeeee, just the nick is tiresome , state the question please
[10:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> what jileeann ??????
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | rookeeeeeeeee
[10:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> im asking my question @ Paddy_EIRE
[10:56] <jileeann> Paddy_EIRE, tnx
[10:57] <rookeeeeeeeee> im asking for an ubuntu buddy
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | rookeeeeeeeee
[10:57] <_nano_> rookeeeeeeeee: what does "ubuntu buddy" mean?
[10:57] <Yoyoto> paddy_eirie http://paste.ubuntu.com/85068/
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> rookeeeeeeeee, no you aint asking anything.. ask your question.. not if "anyone" will help your buddy :/
[10:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, 1 sec
[10:58] <rookeeeeeeeee> Paddy_EIRE, you dont seem to be reading what im typing. im asking for a buddy for MYSELF
[10:58] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, what is your exact question.
[10:58] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[10:59] <Paddy_EIRE> rookeeeeeeeee, you are just growing tiresome and are unlikely to get any help
[10:59] <blip-> _nano_, just to double check,  it's meant to show the phpinfo output in the browser right ?  it isn't doing that, means i have to configure apache to allow php right ?
[10:59] <jamesbrink> rookeeeeeeeee, i will be your ubuntu buddy
[10:59] <rookeeeeeeeee> my exact question is: is there anyone who would like to help me along with ubuntu and be my "ubuntu buddy"? I'd like to add him/her to my buddy list and talk with them about something.
[11:00] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:00] <_nano_> blip-: yeah
[11:00] <blip-> ok thanks
[11:00] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, this channel is for specific ubuntu-related support questions.
[11:01] <_nano_> blip-: how did you actually go about installing php?
[11:01] <rookeeeeeeeee> what is all this "tiresome" talk?
[11:01] <jileeann> ! compiz
[11:01] <rookeeeeeeeee> nonesense
[11:02] <blip-> _nano_, I'm ont ubuntu 7.04,  I installed from the repos.  I followed a guide to know which packages are needed
[11:02] <bazhang> rookeeeeeeeee, please stop. ask a specific question or chat elsewhere.
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, I am switching over to my laptop.. be right back
[11:02] <blip-> _nano_, thought it wasn't a 7.04 guide,  maybe that's the problem
[11:02] <_nano_> blip-: could you link me to that guide? if you don't mind that is
[11:03] <MrOtacon> Hello. I wonder if someone can help me please. I have created a kai.desktop file to launch a program called Xlink Kai. Its executable is /usr/sbin/kaiengine. I have added my kai.desktop file (located in /usr/share/applications/kde4/) to a panel so i can quick launch it. However - the program must be run with root rights. It runs fine, if I enter the password, but i do not want to enter the password - i want it to run as
[11:03] <MrOtacon> root, but not prompt for password. How do i do this?  I have tried to "sudo visudo" and added the line: "user    ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/kaiengine", but it still prompts for password
[11:03] <blip-> _nano_,  I don't have it anymore sorry,  this was 2 weeks ago
[11:03] <gaelfx1> hey, I can't update, when I run sudo apt-get update, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/d5569b03f what do I do to fix this?
[11:03] <_nano_> blip-: no issues :)
[11:04] <blip-> _nano_, this looks good though i'm checking it out now  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:07] <gaelfx1> can someone please help me fix my problem with updating, this is the error I get whe I run sudo apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/d5569b03f
[11:07] <noscreeninstall> i just wanna install ubuntu on this machine, but for some reason the livecd doesnt show me a screen, can i install ubuntu from the livecd in consolemode only?
[11:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, ok I'm here.. just a moment
[11:11] <fafa> slt
[11:11] <yayks> is there a way to remove the keyring? I wanted it in the begining but now it's just bugging me
[11:12] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, could you repost that link
[11:13] <Yoyoto> paddy_eirie http://paste.ubuntu.com/85068/
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, what is the issue with the keyring?
[11:13] <BoogieBoo> Nothing about my issue?
[11:13] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I think I'm missing some compilers cause installing gnash seemed to have failed
[11:13] <Yoyoto> I made sure to install gcc
[11:13] <Yoyoto> Atleast I'm pretty sure
[11:14] <yayks> Pappy, it popps up everytime I want to connect to my wireless network
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, that is what it is supposed to do
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> O_o
[11:14] <SuNDeC> hello, anyone know how to extract a piece from a .avi video file with the same quality?
[11:14] <quizme> is xeyes available for ubuntu ?
[11:15] <yayks> Pappy, yes but now I don't want the keyring how do I disable it?
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> yayks, http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/12/automatically-unlocking-the-default-gnome-keyring-pam-keyring/
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !who | yayks
[11:16] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: are you concerned more with protocol than support?
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, both
[11:17] <Boohbah> yayks: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=535363
[11:17] <molgrum> hi i'm trying to configure pulseaudio to use my front and rear speakers (4 in total, and 1 sub), this is what it says: http://www.pastebin.ca/1284887
[11:17] <op4> will do
[11:17] <molgrum> it worked with alsa before..
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, and I gave him a solution to his problem unlike that link you posted which is unsupported and could compromise security
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, have you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_(ndiswrapper)
[11:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, copy and paste that entire link into your web browser
[11:19] <yayks> Pappy_EIRE & Boohbah: thx
[11:19] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire was that a joke? or should I have not double clicked it?
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, copy and paste it.. its broken down on irc
[11:20] <Paddy_EIRE> lost in translation so to speak
[11:20] <chazco> Hi... i'm trying to use the Ubuntu intrepid version of ffmpeg to convert a "vp6f" .mkv file to an mpeg4 .avi. Using -sameq gives a good output quality, but the filesize is huge... any tips?
[11:21] <quizme> how do i upgrade my gnome?
[11:21] <quizme> i have 8.04
[11:21] <Milos> Why ... does my Ubuntu Server say it has one more user logged in all the time?
[11:21] <quizme> Ubuntu 8.04, just installed it.  how do i upgrade gnome?  apt-get install gnome ?
[11:22] <askand> Tips on software to make dvdcovers in Ubuntu?
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> askand, inkscape or gimp
[11:23] <Paddy_EIRE> askand, there are many others
[11:23] <eross> i want to know why, i tried writing dvds from my vacation in 3 to 4 different formats, and the older dvd players can play it but not my RCA w/that copy protection stuff
[11:24] <SuNDeC> chazco: i don't know why, but just don't use -sameq, try using other params
[11:24] <eross> and supposedly the rca can play all formats
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> !medibuntu | eross
[11:25] <Bobbino> Hey, I've got some issues. I changed my motherboard last night and now ubuntu is pretty much throwing a fit at me... Is there an easy way to reinstall ubunutu but keeping all my settings etc (like drivers) or do I need to do a complete reinstall?
[11:25] <eross> ty Paddy
[11:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Bobbino, "throwing a fit" could you be a little more specific
[11:26] <simplexio> Bobbino: ? i dont see problem why ubuntu wouldn't boot after mobo change if you have put ahrddrives back
[11:26] <quizme> sudo apt-get install gnome   <--- is that right ?
[11:26] <funbitz1> hi guys. could you give me some suggestions, i'm looking for a 'Total Commander' like file manager, twin panels, keyboard shortcuts, ftp...  whats the best stable option?
[11:26] <Bobbino> Sorry, ubuntu boots ok... But programs will randomly just close for no reason at all
[11:27] <Bobbino> I can't install any new programs, use the update feature
[11:27] <simplexio> harddrives back.. and fixed boot order on mount point, ehich should stay same because ubuntu uses uuid's for mountting as default
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !gnome-commander | quizme
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !info gnome-commander
[11:27] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, try gnome-commander
[11:28] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire first error on make distclean
[11:28] <quizme> paddy_eire: sudo apt-get install gnome-commander   ?
[11:28] <Yoyoto> make: *** [distclean] Error 2
[11:28] <simplexio> Bobbino: start console and use dmesg command to see is everything ok, and try start those programs which crash  from console
[11:28] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, yeah
[11:28] <quizme> paddy_eire: thanks!
[11:29] <simplexio> Bobbino: if programs crahs after mobo change, it starts to sound like there is big problem on hardware or kernel just dosnt work (and if you use ubuntu default it should work )
[11:29] <Yoyoto> this thing just hates me
[11:29] <quizme> paddy_eire what do i do after it's installed?
[11:29] <GodfatherofEire> Could somebody tell me how I might disable these intelliTXT and other similar popups in FF, cause all I've found is stuff from a few years back that no longer works
[11:30] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  the adblockplus extension works here
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, whatever you want
[11:30] <quizme> paddy_eire lol, i mean how do i use it ?
[11:30] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire these were the same instructions
[11:30] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: backup your ~/.mozilla directory then remove it
[11:30] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis really? so far I havent been able to remove it
[11:30] <Bobbino> simplexio: Thanks... Also one of my hard drives won't mount anymore... Any suggestions why?
[11:30] <GodfatherofEire> Boohbah, and that would help me... how?
[11:30] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, It may be in Applications > Accessories
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: get rid of all your old addons
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, I am not to sure.. I do not use it
[11:31] <GodfatherofEire> Boohbah, uh, no, not what I'm tryin to do here
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: sorry, i misunderstood
[11:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, more bad advice
[11:31] <Leon> t
[11:31] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: what you want is adblock plus
[11:31] <simplexio> Bobbino: was it mounted by uuid ?
[11:32] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: more lack of advice.
[11:32] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, so exactly what filter do you have for ABP that blocks the intelliTXT, cause its bein a pain on my end
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, no.. you really should stop barking in the wrong direction before you get kicked mate
[11:32] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire should I just go to sleep and give up?
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, no
[11:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, I am reading.. 2 sec
[11:33] <Yoyoto> Methinks I'm missing something for compiling, gnash didn't work either
[11:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, did you install build-essential?
[11:33] <Yoyoto> yep
[11:33] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  i just let it auto-update/subscribe at the start after i install it.. and i never notice them after that
[11:33] <Bobbino> simplexio: I have no idea... It's an NTFS drive...
[11:34] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, hmm.. let me see.. I will go over that guide again
[11:34] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis; how long did it take to update, cause either mine is updating really REALLY slowly, or its a very large file, or the server is down
[11:35] <dr_willis> GodfatherofEire,  almost instantly as far as i recall
[11:35] <simplexio> Bobbino: dosent just mount /that/drive work ?, i have problem thanks to some mount options that ntfs drives wont get mounted on boot, but after login it just works
[11:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, which version of ubuntu are you using
[11:35] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, alright, well, I'll try again in a bit
[11:35] <mrwes> Hey, what do I type on the box to connect to a Rhthymbox share? just the IP number?
[11:35] <Yoyoto> ....the wubi one? my plan was to see if I could get ndiswrapper to work then seriously change
[11:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, hmm.. to be honest I would never recommend using wubi
[11:36] <Bobbino> simplexio: it won't mount at all... It used to mount on boot...
[11:36] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, have you tried a live cd to see if it picks up your wireless itself?
[11:36] <simplexio> Bobbino: what error its gives when you try mount it from console
[11:36] <Yoyoto> noooppeeee
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, download the latest release and give it a spin
[11:37] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I don't know much about live CDs I'm assuming thats when I boot from a disk
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yes
[11:37] <GodfatherofEire> dr_willis, server must be down or somethin, cause Mine still has nothing from the local list, but its already got one from bloody Germany
[11:37] <Bobbino> simplexio: mount: can't find Robins Dive in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:37] <imaginativeone> how do I disable the system debugger?
[11:37] <ibe> hgxdth
[11:37] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire I've never made a boot disk..........
[11:37] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, it is the recommended method for everyone
[11:37] <ibe> lppp
[11:38] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, its easy.. if you are in windows download imgburn install it (its small) then download the latest ubuntu 8.10 release and burn it using imgburn
[11:38] <mrwes> Hey, what do I type on the box to connect to a Rhthymbox DAAP share? just the IP number?
[11:39] <Yoyoto> since I'm already on this... can I just do it from here?
[11:39] <simplexio> Bobbino: reason is that you have defined it in fstab or you try mount just wrong place... exept that you probably mean that that one automatic mount system wont work anymore
[11:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yes
[11:39] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, that would be better.. I though you where working from a different computer :P
[11:39] <Bobbino> simplexio: so redefining it in fstab should sort it?
[11:41] <Yoyoto> nah, I took the wired connection from my seeding computer
[11:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, 2 sec
[11:41] <Yoyoto> paddy_Eire is it just me or are my download speeds alot faster on ubuntu then on xp?
[11:41] <nonix4> Is gnome-screensaver deadlocking with kvm vnc running within the same session a known problem?
[11:41] <simplexio> Bobbino: well that is the old way how i do it, jut add entry: UUID=your-ntfs-drive-uuid /place/to/mount ntfs-3g user,gid=100 0 0
[11:42] <imaginativeone> how do I disable my system debugger?
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, sometimes that can happen.. I believe its something to do with windows QoS
[11:42] <Bobbino> simplexio: that's what I did the first time. Is there a better way to do it?
[11:42] <nonix4> (or any other program that grabs mouse most likely)
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[11:42] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire, well all the more reason to switch
[11:42] <Yoyoto> I'm already halfway through the download
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> great
[11:42] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, do I have time to make myself a cup of tea?? hehe
[11:43] <simplexio> Bobbino: well notreally. isnt old line there anymore ?
[11:43] <r0ny> hi any idea why my tomcat listening only on tcp6
[11:43] <Yoyoto> Paddy_eire, Yeah I might aswell make myself some coffee this seems to be a long process
[11:43] <Bobbino> simplexio: yeah, the line is still in fstab
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, wont be much loner.. you just got started using a method which is not really all that reliable
[11:43] <Paddy_EIRE> *longer
[11:44] <Paddy_EIRE> finger crossed
[11:44] <simplexio> Bobbino: you need tyo use mount command like mount /whole/path
[11:44] <simplexio> Bobbino: then you should get different error
[11:45] <Bobbino> simplexio: http://pastebin.com/m4852f664
[11:46] <Bobbino> simplexio: guess I'm off into windows, Thanks for your help :)
[11:47] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:47] <simplexio> Bobbino: it seems that for somereason ntfs oartition is got dirty, boot to windows and run fdisk
[11:47] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire I can burn it to dvd right?
[11:48] <r0ny> hi can i get the repository of ubuntu,so that i can download tomcat from ubuntu repository?
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, no
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, standard cd-r
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> or rw
[11:48] <Yoyoto> ffs I don't think I have any regular cds
[11:48] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[11:49] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire can I be creative and put it on my iPod to boot from?
[11:49] <Paddy_EIRE> !install
[11:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, possibly.. although its not a method I have familiarised myself with just yet
[11:49] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:49] <kristian1> if i "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" i will install openssh-server that will run automatically always, eve after reboot, correct?
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[11:50] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire it says DVD
[11:50] <Kelen> kristian1: correct.
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, oh!
[11:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, let me check that
[11:51] <kristian1> Kelen : alright, thanks. :)
[11:51] <hypyrbole> how do I pause nzbget from the command line?
[11:51] <Kelen> kristian1: but it's not recommend.
[11:51] <mchelen1> is there any ubuntu based livecd that will run on 128mb of ram?
[11:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, under the "what do I need" section on ubuntu's site it says £A blank CD and the ability to “burn” blank CDs"
[11:52] <kristian1> Kelen : why not?
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, dvd's layout is a lot different
[11:52] <ILikeFedora> Anyone know how to remove the "Applications" text from the GNOME start panel?
[11:52] <Yoyoto> UGHH I think my cd drive is broken
[11:52] <ILikeFedora> I just want to display an icon
[11:52] <juro> hi, how can I make a screenshot when a menu of an application is open?
[11:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, try the usb method.. it may even be fun/useful
[11:52] <Kelen> It's bring a little risk for you. i think..
[11:53] <Yoyoto> it probably won't work
[11:53] <Kelen> kristian1: It's bring a little risk for you, i think.
[11:53] <onats> what's the best way to partition 500GB for ubuntu?
[11:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, you are doomed to failure if you insist on being negative :)
[11:53] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[11:53] <kristian1> Kelen : only if someone manages to guess my username/password? anyways, my router is blocking all ports. i am only sshing over wlan atm.
[11:53] <chandru_in> hi when I go into the guest session, the guest session starts with human theme but once start up is complete, the theme is completely lost
[11:53] <onats> i will be putting 2 databases in it, apache, virtualbox images.
[11:54] <onats> also, i have 4 GB of ram, expanding it to 8 GB in the future. what's the size of the swap space that i should use/
[11:54] <kristian1> Kelen : and if i do open it up for the internet then i guess i could configure it some how to only accept certain ips to login? hopefylly!
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, it is really down to your personal preference.. but I would always reserve at least 20 gb for root /
[11:54] <Kelen> kristian1: well, unless you alwasy needs someone control your system.
[11:54] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, that does not include your home dir
[11:55] <chandru_in> Does any one else here face the same problem?
[11:55] <onats> paddy_eire, for databases like mysql and postgre, where does the bulk of the DB get stored into?
[11:55] <marko-_->  caution: filename not matched:  Dangerous Minds [XviD].srt <--- why do i get this when i want to unzip someting ?
[11:55] <ech0s7> hi
[11:56] <ech0s7> anyone have an ati hd3470 ?
[11:56] <Yoyoto> what can I use to burn it?
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, I am not sure on that one mate..  I dont use those normally myself
[11:56] <DIFH-iceroot> !anyone | ech0s7
[11:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, right click the .iso file and select write to disc
[11:56] <Boohbah> Yoyoto: cdrecord
[11:56] <ILikeFedora> Anyone know how to display just the start-here icon, instead of the words "Applications"
[11:57] <ech0s7> DIFH-iceroot: i would know if anyone have hd3470!
[11:57] <radioman{LT}> delete aplication
[11:57] <radioman{LT}> add icon
[11:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, dont use cdrecord its a cli app you will have difficulty
[11:57] <ILikeFedora> Ah, I'll try that
[11:58] <Yoyoto> well dvds are not working
[11:58] <nonix4> ech0s7: apparently not - maybe that is a vaporware product? ;)
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, i told you
[11:59] <ech0s7> nonix4: what vaporware means ?
[11:59] <tjgillespie> hi all, how do i tell apt that i have installed a dependecy manually?
[11:59] <kristian1> can i store any kind of file (windows file) on my ubuntu machine, when downloading via rtorrent? filesystem: ext3/ext2/xfs
[11:59] <DIFH-iceroot> kristian1: sure
[12:00] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, you really should just get a pack of blank cds they are extremely cheap now
[12:00] <chandru_in> onats: MySQL's data is usually in /var/lib/mysql
[12:00] <kristian1> DIFH-iceroot : so the filesystem won't matter? i can still save the data?
[12:00] <DIFH-iceroot> kristian1: yes
[12:00] <perlmonkey> hi, can anyone tell me the status with Qpopper in Ubuntu? I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 and have been unable to get Qpopper working (when I check mail client reports mail server is unavailable, and qpopper doesn't seem to be running)...any info available?
[12:00] <sabayonlive-4644> ciao
[12:00] <kristian1> DIFH-iceroot : ok, thanks for confirming. :)
[12:01] <sabayonlive-4644> hi
[12:01] <sabayonlive-4644> do you using ubuntu ?
[12:01] <ILikeFedora> quit
[12:02] <br0k3d> how do i know my race in USA ?
[12:02] <br0k3d> In Beazil im very prould for being white
[12:02] <ech0s7> nonix4: what vaporware does means ?
[12:02] <br0k3d> In Brazil im very prould for being white
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | br0k3d
[12:02] <bazhang> br0k3d, stop
[12:02] <br0k3d> sorry, sir
[12:03] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire it's impossible
[12:03] <br0k3d> What the race of Ubuntu programmers ?
[12:03] <Yoyoto> I don't know how to install unetbootin
[12:03] <chandru_in> when I go into the guest session, the guest session starts with human theme but once start up is complete, the theme is completely lost
[12:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, to buy cd's??
[12:03] <Yoyoto> paddy_eire all my CDs are at school
[12:03] <sabayonlive-4644> i have ubuntu into my hd but im using sabayon live
[12:03] <Yoyoto> but I can't use a wired connection there
[12:03] <tc_> hi all. i have some questions about grub .. i cant get any splash image to work.. is their a person here willing to help me with that ?
[12:04] <progex> quit
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, if you do not want to tackle installing from usb stick then I suggest you wait till you have cd's
[12:04] <perlmonkey> whats the best pop3 server to run with Postfix?
[12:04] <Yoyoto> I guess tomorrow then
[12:04] <tjgillespie> anyone? is there something like /etc/apt/provided?
[12:04] <sabayonlive-4644> i have a question for you
[12:04] <perlmonkey> i've tried dovecot but it keeps spawning too many processes
[12:04] <Yoyoto> well thanks for the help, I'm going to try to get a few hours of sleep, even though I wasted like 4
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> Yoyoto, yeah.. otherwise this will just frustrate you and I :)
[12:04] <Yoyoto> goodnight/morning
[12:05] <sabayonlive-4644> ubuntu is better than sabayon ?
[12:05] <Boohbah> sabayonlive-4644: no, sabayon linux is not supported in the ubuntu channel
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> later
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, do you have a ubuntu support question?
[12:05] <perlmonkey> anyone any comments/suggestions on best pop3 server to work with Postfix MTA?
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !best
[12:06] <tokam> hi
[12:06] <tokam> http://rafb.net/p/NK2wwp75.html
[12:06] <tokam> what to do now?
[12:06] <perlmonkey> for the benefit of mr Paddy: best ~ most popular
[12:06] <brutus> Hey, my USB drive isn't mounting, even though I've selected automount from Removable Devices and Media. What's the problem?
[12:06] <irooty12> hey all
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !de | tokam
[12:07] <sabayonlive-4644> i dont like ubuntu for the theme
[12:07] <coldstove> I changed the theme myself
[12:07] <Tobias|> Why not just change the theme?
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, unless you have a support question take the chat elsewhere
[12:07] <tokam> thx Paddy_EIRE but i asked you in english ?!?
[12:07] <sabayonlive-4644> how i can chenge my desktop
[12:07] <irooty12> Hey does anyone know how to edit the screen resolution ?
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> tokam, yes I know.. I am just trying to get you the best possible support
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, in the appearances preferences panel
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, right click change background
[12:08] <sabayonlive-4644> i know this
[12:08] <sabayonlive-4644> but i dont like the themes
[12:08] <Tobias|> http://gnome-art.com
[12:08] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, then what do you mean; the wm?
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !art
[12:09] <irooty12> Can someone help me change the screen resolution i tried from the preference but it shows only 680/480
[12:09] <bazhang> irooty12, what vid card
[12:09] <Speppa> hello
[12:09] <sabayonlive-4644> for exemple sabayon's theme is beautiful
[12:09] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, check gnome-look.org
[12:09] <irooty12> Geforce FX 5500 256 MB
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> sabayonlive-4644, take the chat elsewhere please
[12:09] <Tobias|> sabayonlive-4644, stop trolling.
[12:09] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, yes it is, please chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <tokam> hi i had a reconnect
[12:10] <bazhang> irooty12, did you install nvidia-settings
[12:10] <tokam> http://rafb.net/p/NK2wwp75.html
[12:10] <irooty12> Yes
[12:10] <irooty12> And updated it
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | tokam
[12:10] <krishnan> what is the name of the file that displays the "404 URL not found on this server" error in hardy?
[12:10] <Speppa> I've installed the trial of clonecd, but it doesn't run: it says that I've to reboot the pc but I've already done
[12:10] <kestutis> hello, where is games forubuntu??
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, this is not a ubuntu related question
[12:10] <kestutis> who knows?
[12:11] <bazhang> irooty12, which hardware driver are you using and what version of ubuntu
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> !games | kestutis
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[12:11] <kestutis> 5.1
[12:11] <sabayonlive-4644> i'm italian
[12:11] <irooty12> verison 8.01 but what do you mean what hardware?
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, clonecd is a windows application
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, I've installed it with wine and I use ubuntu 8.04
[12:11] <bazhang> irooty12, 8.01?
[12:11] <kestutis> im lithuanian
[12:11] <Speppa> Paddy_EIRE, I know.
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> Speppa, we dont support windows software here
[12:11] <Speppa> sese bravi bravi
[12:11] <wers> is it possible to login to guest directly from GDM? if so, how?
[12:11] <Speppa> thanks
[12:12] <bazhang> Speppa, check the appdb
[12:12] <sabayonlive-4644> there are any italian ?
[12:12] <bazhang> oops
[12:12] <kestutis> no
[12:12] <bazhang> !it
[12:12] <bazhang> sabayonlive-4644, /join #ubuntu-it for italian
[12:12] <irooty12> bazhang yep thats what it showed in the startup i installed it via Wubi
[12:12] <bazhang> irooty12, aha wubi
[12:12] <kestutis> plz talk in english only
[12:13] <coldstove> ubottu is a bot
[12:13] <bazhang> irooty12, you mean 8.04 or 8.10
[12:13] <irooty12> yea 8.10
[12:13] <onats> how should i partition my 500GB hard drive? have 4GB of ram, will expand to 8..
[12:13] <beastax> is kernel-pae not available in the apt repos?
[12:13] <bazhang> irooty12, wubi is a short term solution in my opinion, no real experience with that one
[12:13] <beastax> i cant seem to find it
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> !pae | beastax
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[12:14] <bazhang> irooty12, do you  see hardware drivers in system admin
[12:14] <beastax> !PAE
[12:14] <irooty12> Yes  my Nivdia driver but it doesnt show there either it just show 680/480
[12:14] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, aint that to do with suse??
[12:14] <quizme> i think i broke my gnome.  everything looks ugly now.
[12:14] <beastax> Paddy_EIRE, apparently not
[12:14] <quizme> how do i fix it ?
[12:15] <bazhang> irooty12, you are addressing me? please use my nick then or I'll miss it
[12:15] <bazhang> irooty12, which driver are you using
[12:15] <ardchoille> beastax: I don't think so:  apt-cache search -n kernel | grep pea
[12:15] <beastax> unless ubuntu just uses bigmem
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, ah I see what you want
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> beastax, yeah highmem or something
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[12:15] <beastax> aah, its ok then, i know what im doing if its highmem
[12:16] <beastax> cheers
[12:16] <quizme> i think i'm using the wrong graphics setting for gnome
[12:16] <quizme> how do i reinstall gnome ?
[12:16] <david__> ?
[12:16] <bazhang> quizme, `what do you mean
[12:16] <Paddy_EIRE> beasty_, cool
[12:16] <bazhang> quizme you mean the ubuntu-desktop package or something else
[12:16] <quizme> bazhang: the fonts are not clear and scrips
[12:16] <irooty12> bazhang i am using NVidia X Server Setting
[12:17] <bazhang> irooty12, what driver; you have a number no doubt
[12:17] <bazhang> quizme, that has do with fonts then
[12:17] <f00fyf00f3rz> hello world
[12:17] <quizme> bazhang: i'm not sure.  i right clicked to change my background image.  now the colors are not display correctly.
[12:18] <quizme> i played around with a lot of desktop settings
[12:18] <quizme> and i tried to install a different gnome theme
[12:18] <bazhang> quizme, sounds like you need to swap out themes
[12:18] <quizme> bazhang how do i do that ?
[12:18] <bazhang> quizme, were you playing around with a lot of theme sets and icons sets?
[12:19] <irooty12> bazhang: i am not sure do you mean the version type Nvidia Driver Version173.14.12
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, yep
[12:19] <irooty12> Yea thats it
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, and what did nvidia-settings offer when you ran it
[12:19] <irooty12> bazhang it offerd me the same as perfernce 680/480
[12:19] <quizme> bazhang: yes
[12:19] <bazhang> irooty12, did you enable the driver then reboot?
[12:20] <irooty12> Yes i activated it and rebooted
[12:20] <Boohbah> f00fyf00f3rz: my, you have a lot of zeroes!
[12:20] <bazhang> irooty12, any reason to use wubi instead of a simple dual boot install?
[12:20] <RAk> hi all
[12:20] <quizme> when i log out, everything looks good
[12:20] <irooty12> bazhang well i wanted to have windows and ubuntu so thats the proggi i knew
[12:21] <quizme> but after i log in, it looks messed up
[12:21] <bazhang> quizme, how do you reverse all that you done with the themes and icons sets?
[12:21] <hothollas> I am trying to listen to Johnny Cash's 'Help Me' in mp3.  But I get an error saying " audio/x-asf plugin missing".  A blood clot tins is this?
[12:21] <RAk> I need to install a desktop for browsing, flash/java/multimedia support for firefox, can I go for amd64 release or stick to i386 ?
[12:21] <quizme> bazhang: i don't know
[12:21] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, 64bit is well supported
[12:21] <bazhang> hothollas, which app
[12:21] <Boohbah> Paddy_EIRE: bad advice
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, and its currently the recommended version
[12:22] <hothollas> bazhang:  movie player.
[12:22] <bazhang> Boohbah, please stop
[12:22] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: even the flash banners would work nice, like no tweaking or 3rd party things would be needed ?
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, read up on things dude
[12:22] <irooty12> bazhang any solution
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> Boohbah, instead of issuing blind nonsense
[12:22] <quizme> bazhang: when i log into another account it looks normal.
[12:22] <hothollas> bazhang:  for some reason, the icon is of  a movie and not the notes of an mp3.
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, adobe-flashplugin
[12:22] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: ok, I check a close mirror...
[12:22] <Paddy_EIRE> is now 64 bit
[12:22] <bazhang> irooty12, I'm not familair with wubi; perhaps if you repeat your question here every so often someone else will be able to help sorry
[12:23] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I had an issue years ago with flash not working on amd64 ;) that's why I asked
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, okay
[12:23] <irooty12> bazhang, kk np thanks though
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, this is via firefox then?
[12:23] <f00fyf00f3rz> boohbah: yes i do
[12:23] <hothollas> bazhang: yes.
[12:23] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, times have changed... apparently Boohbah is still burning witches
[12:23] <hothollas> bazhang: how do you mean, firefox?
[12:23] <bazhang> hothollas, did you install the mplayer plugin for firefox?
[12:24] <Flannel> irooty12, bazhang: Except the boot process itself (and the fact that hard disk access is abstracted), a wubi install is the same as any other.  Normal video issues (and fixes) apply, etc.
[12:24] <hothollas> bazhang: hmm. not that I recall.  maybe update manger did it for me... :p
[12:24] <RAk> so, 8.10 and 64bit version is downloading...
[12:24] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, Boohbah https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:24] <bazhang> hothollas, not unless you instructed it to do so
[12:25] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, adobe release flash 10 for linux 32bit and 64bit lately.. its in the partners repository
[12:25] <bazhang> hothollas, install ubuntu-restricted-extras from synaptic package manger
[12:25] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I enable mostly universe/multiverse
[12:25] <hothollas> bazhang:  so I would have to go to firefox add-ons?
[12:25] <hothollas> bazhang: sorry.  is that a repository?
[12:25] <bazhang> hothollas, not a ff add-on, via repos
[12:26] <Paddy_EIRE> RAk, well enable the partners repo aswell if you want no hassles
[12:26] <f00fyf00f3rz> irooty12 do you have a wubi question?
[12:26] <RAk> Paddy_EIRE: I will
[12:26] <quizme> if i type in sudo -u david it still prompts me for the elvie user
[12:26] <Flannel> quizme: that's correct.  It needs your password
[12:27] <hothollas> bazhang: when I do a search for ubuntu-restricted-extras in synaptic, it shows that ver. 10 is already installed.
[12:27] <bullgard4> '~$ sudo ethtool eth0: Settings for eth0: Supported ports: [TP MII].' What does 'TP' mean?
[12:27] <bazhang> quizme, you should reset to a different theme via appearances manager
[12:27] <bazhang> hothollas, in browser window type about:plugins
[12:28] <hothollas> bazhang:  ok did that.  what should I look for?
[12:29] <hothollas> bazhang:   I see audio/mpeg
[12:29] <bazhang> hothollas, do you see the mplayer plugin (also might be vlc)
[12:29] <magnetron> bullgard4→ Twisted Pair
[12:29] <magnetron> bullgard4→ it's the standard ethernet cable
[12:30] <jm> helo
[12:30] <perlmonkey> ﻿I'm having a curious problem with apache2 (running under Ubuntu 8.04).. for some reason apache stops logging and log files are overwritten to zero bytes. My thought on this is that perhaps that apache2 might be crashing and restarting, perhaps as a different user. any suggestions?
[12:30] <jm> 123456
[12:30] <bullgard4> magnetron: Ah! That was too simple. :-)
[12:30] <bazhang> hothollas, and your system plays mp3 fine except for streaming via firefox? ie if you have one on your system and play with rhythmbox
[12:30] <jm> #roms
[12:30] <Flannel> jm: Please don't
[12:30] <RAk> perlmonkey: or logfile size is set to 0 ?
[12:30] <magnetron> bullgard4→ MII is the extensions for controlling speed and duplex
[12:31] <RAk> perlmonkey: or logrotate makes a booboo
[12:31] <Flannel> perlmonkey: That could be (although I'd personally think that's far fetched), probably more likely its a log rotate issue
[12:31] <bullgard4> magnetron: Ok. Thank you.
[12:31] <hothollas> bazhang:  yes.  all other mp3s play fine.  and this is an mp3 file, not  a stream, but rythmbox won't play it.
[12:31] <RAk> perlmonkey: or no space left on the device
[12:31] <hothollas> bazhang: and I have mplayer2, not mplayer
[12:31] <funbitz1> anyone using utorrent with wine? how can I set .torrent files to open automatically with utorrent?
[12:32] <bazhang> hothollas, did you install w32codecs from medibuntu.org ? that sometimes will help
[12:32] <hothollas> bazhang: sorry, in the plugins page only mplayer2 appears, I meant to say.
[12:32] <tiyowan> funbitz1: Why don't you just use one of the linux clients?
[12:32] <bazhang> hothollas, you just install the package from there dont need the repo
[12:33] <Tefx> good afternoon dear fellosws of u butnu im now sick fo tryign to figure this out on my own but aptitude and apt get seem to have momenumentaly screwed up i dunn were the errors are what the errors ar eand twjy the hells it isnt doign things properly lols i was wonderign if soemone could come tak a look for me
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang: please tell me that won't break my system.  sorry for the noob question.
[12:33] <bazhang> hothollas, what version of ubuntu
[12:33] <nachohi88> hi
[12:33] <Flannel> Tefx: Please pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) the following output: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang:  gutsy
[12:33] <bazhang> Tefx, what does sudo apt-get update  return please pastebin
[12:33] <bazhang> oops
[12:33] <hothollas> bazhang: 7.10
[12:34] <nachohi88> need some help.. don't know if its a problem but
[12:34] <Flannel> Tefx: actually, just pastebin this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:34] <funbitz1> tiyowan: what are the best linux native alternatives?
[12:34] <bazhang> hothollas, no its fine
[12:34] <nachohi88> got 2 kernels on my grub after update
[12:34] <hothollas> bazhang: I'll try
[12:34] <bazhang> nachohi88, that is normal and ok
[12:34] <Flannel> Tefx: What version of Ubuntu are you running? and what were you trying to o when it broke?
[12:34] <tiyowan> funbitz1: I personally use Transmission. rtorrent's good, too, if you use CLI.
[12:35] <nachohi88> so don't need to kill the old one? it`s not gonna cause a conflict in future or anything?
[12:36] <bazhang> nachohi88, you may want to hang to an extra one
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> nachohi88, no you do not have to.. although you can remove unneeded cruft by doing "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[12:36] <Flannel> nachohi88: Nope.  The only problem they cause is that they take up disk space.  Its actually safe to leave one or two around, in case of kernel regressions.  You can remove them through your favorite package manager, just remove the corresponding linux-image-[version] package
[12:36] <bazhang> nachohi88, the space save is neglibile
[12:37] <nachohi88> ok thanks
[12:37] <quizme> i copied the .gconf file from another user now everything is normal
[12:37] <quizme> i mean .gconf directory
[12:37] <jim_p> woooo hooo! i found a replacement for wicd too!
[12:37] <hothollas> bazhang: I get an "error: a later version is already installed".
[12:38] <quizme> what's a good chat program for Ubuntu?
[12:38] <bazhang> hothollas, is this a true mp3 or a drm'd version
[12:38] <nachohi88> irc
[12:38] <nachohi88> xchat
[12:38] <SilvestreYComun> this is great
[12:38] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, well you can chat to just about any program you desire ;)
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> wanna be more specific
[12:39] <KaZeR> hey guys. anyone here playing 1080p content using ubuntu?
[12:39] <hothollas> bazhang: good question.  I don't know
[12:39] <quizme> i don't understand
[12:39] <bazhang> hothollas, that might be the issue if all others play okay
[12:39] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, I recommend empathy
[12:39] <bazhang> hothollas, ie that particular file and not the codecs per se
[12:39] <Boohbah> quizme: irssi
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !info empathy | quizme
[12:40] <quizme> boohbah thanks
[12:40] <Paddy_EIRE> and for IRC quizme if you want a gui use xchat or for cli irssi
[12:40] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, Can someone tell me where the configuration for xkb is saved in Ubuntu 8.10?
[12:40] <hothollas> bazhang:  I see.  I thank you for all your input.  now the next order of business is to start a ubuntu-jamaica channel
[12:40] <hothollas> bazhang: thanks again for your time.  much appreciated.
[12:41] <bazhang> hothollas, /msg ubottu loco
[12:41] <Flannel> hothollas: There already is, actually.  #ubuntu-jm
[12:41] <bazhang> ooh
[12:41] <hothollas> Flannel: star.  ya large.  ya donne no!
[12:41] <hothollas> Flannel: thanks
[12:41] <arthur_8200> Hi
[12:42] <Flannel> hothollas: Although, that seems to be the only LoCo resource listed.  You should look into setting up a proper LoCo team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams  but this belongs in #ubuntu-locoteams
[12:42] <hothollas> Flannel: there is only I in the ubuntu-jm channel
[12:42] <arthur_8200> I have just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and now flash and java works just great in firefox 64bit but not in opera...
[12:42] <pim> Hello, since which version has Ubuntu gone to pulseaudio?
[12:42] <Paddy_EIRE> pim, gutsy
[12:43] <hothollas> Flannel: RIght.  a proper channel needs to be set up.  I can't exchange ideas with only myself
[12:43] <Flannel> hothollas: Alright, the page is wrong then.  #ubuntu-locoteams is the place to go to ask about setting up a channel, that page also has a "Start a Team" link, which will walk you through it as well.
[12:43] <pim> I seem to be having some trouble with it, it won't save my sound settings.
[12:43] <hothollas> Flannel: very well. big up
[12:44] <Tefx> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/85103/ apt-get update which seems to work
[12:46] <Flannel> Tefx: And the sudo apt-get upgrade?  What wereyou doing when it broke?
[12:46] <ardchoille> Flannel: Would being logged in as root have anything to do with that?
[12:48] <Flannel> ardchoille: Not as far as functionality goes.  It's indicative of other systemic issues (lack of understanding of how ubuntu does stuff, for example) though.  Especially mixed with the "stable" repos, which may be debian specific (or may not), and also the fact that he has -proposed enabled.
[12:48] <saywot> I'm trying to get   an Intrepid Ibex'ed laptop to connect wirelessly to the internet, it's got a broadcom chip but Network manager won't connect even though the drivers are installed and all the details have been entered into MN
[12:48] <ardchoille> Flannel: Ah, ok
[12:48] <Tefx> trying to reinstall dtc control panel
[12:49] <Tefx> Flannel,
[12:49] <Tefx> and then it tried downlaodign it btu it woudlent pill it dependancies which it had doen everytime before
[12:49] <Tefx> and no its jsut thogows a fit when i try to downlaod anyhtign sumamt to do withthat file
[12:50] <Flannel> Tefx: Alright, we're talking about dtc-postfix-courier, correct?
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Adobe-Flash-Player-64-bit-on-Ubuntu-8-10-98076.shtml
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, take a look at that
[12:50] <perlmonkey> whats the adm group?
[12:50] <Tefx> im talkgin abotu the full dtc control panel
[12:51] <Tefx> postfix may have eban wat screwed it up tho
[12:51] <perlmonkey> adm group = root group?
[12:51] <Tefx> Flannel,
[12:51] <quizme> are there any other browsers better than firefox ?
[12:51] <Tefx> sorry keep forget to tag ur naem into the paragraphs
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !better | quizme
[12:51] <Flannel> Tefx: Right, the package is dtc-courier-postfix, correct?
[12:51] <scientes_> so graphics acceleration work when doing X over the net? it must
[12:51] <saywot> quizme: - Opera ?
[12:51] <Tefx> no theres 2 package i can pull
[12:51] <Tefx> cos i have an extra reposatory added
[12:52] <BlueEagle> Why am I seeing a storm of people attempting to connect to TCP port 6914? Has anyone else seen this and know the cause?
[12:52] <quizme> saywot: thanks
[12:52] <Tefx> there is dtc ont he ubuntu repos
[12:52] <perlmonkey> is it necessary to run any command after updating /etc/group?
[12:52] <wsco> where i can get drivers for ubuntu
[12:52] <Flannel> perlmonkey: adm is for system monitoring stuffs, can do stuff with /var/log, it's the 'admin' group that gives the ability to sudo
[12:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Flannel, I always enable proposed updates too... I know its bad advice but heh
[12:52] <Tefx> which is the whoel control pael thats what i origanely used and tried to use again
[12:52] <saywot> wsco: what sort ?
[12:52] <perlmonkey> Flannel: excellent, thanks
[12:53] <Tefx> and then there dtc-core which is the latest vertion on the custom repo Flannel
[12:53] <saywot> wsco: operating systems don't need drivers, hardware does
[12:53] <Flannel> Tefx: Alright.  So, can we please see what the output of `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` gives you?
[12:53] <wsco> saywot: hardware drivers
[12:53] <Tefx> and dist-upgrade has froze on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic
[12:53] <BlueEagle> perlmonkey: You would need to log out and back in for new groups to take effect.
[12:54] <dabadan> hi, i have a logitech mx518 mouse and all keys are working (checked by typing "xev" in console). is there a way in gnome i can bind functions to it?
[12:54] <Tefx> Flannel,  i woudl btu it hasent finnish and it bean sta on that for abotu 5 mins
[12:54] <perlmonkey> ok. what if the user doesnt need to login
[12:54] <saywot> wsco: any specifics ?, most are included when the device is installed; or when Ubuntu is installed
[12:54] <quizme> does skype work for linux ?
[12:54] <Flannel> perlmonkey: Also, don't manually edit groups, there's no reason to do that (wee have a number of utilities, the easiest way is `adduser user group`
[12:54] <perlmonkey> quizme: yes
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, is that english?
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, :P
[12:54] <quizme> perlmonkey: sweet
[12:54] <perlmonkey> quizme: i have it working for ubuntu
[12:54] <Tefx> woudl be if i hadent just woke up
[12:54] <TecR0c> What is a good router to get to make sure you secure your home network?
[12:54] <Tefx> plus im dyspraxic and dyslexic
[12:55] <saywot> quizme: yep, it does, you should have a look at "Skype For Linux"
[12:55] <perlmonkey> Flannel: ok noted, many thanks
[12:55] <Tefx> arg why the fuck has dist-upgrade froze
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, no probs bud
[12:55] <quizme> saywot: thanks
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> !language
[12:55] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Any router that supports wpa
[12:55] <Flannel> Tefx: Please watch your language.  It likely ran out of space.
[12:55] <Tefx> highly doutb it
[12:55] <Flannel> Tefx: ctrl-c that, and check too see if it warns you about space
[12:55] <Tefx> its my dedicated server my box shodul have plenny
[12:56] <dabadan> is it possible to bind actions to mouse buttons in gnome?
[12:56] <saywot> TecRoc: any that has WPA security
[12:56] <Tefx> how can i check hwo mcuh space boot has
[12:56] <Flannel> Tefx: df
[12:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Tefx, df -h
[12:56] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: It might still run out of space on a dedicatet partition unless you run everything in /
[12:56] <Flannel> Tefx: Check / and /boot
[12:56] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Taht was meant for Tefx
[12:57] <saywot> OK I'll try again: why does NetworkManager seem unable to negotiate a successful wireless connection to my network ?
[12:57] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, it only needs WPA if i am doing it wirelessly?
[12:57] <Tefx> yeh loposk liek boot might be otu of space losl
[12:57] <Tefx> 41 used outa 46
[12:57] <saywot> I have the 'restricted drivers' for the Broadcom card installed, and have tried editing connections/deleting re-creating connections
[12:58] <lvdbing> what?
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> saywot, buddy driver
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> *buggy
[12:58] <sybux> hi all
[12:58] <sybux> I'm looking for a little application to create DVD cover under gnome
[12:58] <Tefx> i dont realy wanna cancel dist-upgrade on initrd cos that coudl monumently cock up boot up
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: alright, so you'll have to specify that package to be removed (you can't do any other package stuffs until you've fixed/removed the broken package)
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: No, it wont
[12:58] <Flannel> Tefx: And again, watch your language
[12:58] <saywot> it wasn't buggy when I had the same driver-set installed in the same laptop running Fedora 9
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, I already told you earlier
[12:58] <Tefx> sorry
[12:59] <sybux> Paddy_EIRE: ??? sure ? because I just wake up and connect
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, hmm..
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> sybux, well use either inkscape or gimp
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> there are many others
[13:00] <RenatoSilva> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NOE8xiC_Bo&feature=related
[13:00] <sybux> Paddy_EIRE: thanks you
[13:00] <saywot> assuming the driver is buggy how might one proceed to make a connection without having to resort to the horrid ndiswrapper stuff ?
[13:00] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, your link is good but it only explains flash - which already works. What I am searching for is java on 64bit opera
[13:01] <^wotr^biomass> sybux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=452364
[13:01] <Tefx> Flannel, woudl it be safe to remove the .bak up vertions of initrd
[13:01] <Tefx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85110/
[13:01] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, hmm
[13:01] <Flannel> Paddy_EIRE, sybux: Inkscape has DVD cover ... um, templates, I guess you'd call them
[13:02] <RenatoSilva> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-0SjA1Qxug&NR=1
[13:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Flannel, sybux   yeah there is also koverartist its a kde app but looks great
[13:02] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, its kind of strange.. because in firefox64 java works
[13:02] <Flannel> RenatoSilva: Please don't do that here
[13:02] <imachine> hey
[13:02] <icesword> RenatoSilva, what's up
[13:02] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Well if you're doing it wired then the router is not the one that should be doing the security unless it's a router/firewall solution.
[13:02] <imachine> got some more issues with ubuntu 8.10 bootup
[13:02] <icesword> RenatoSilva, someone will ban you here
[13:02] <Paddy_EIRE> arthur_8200, have you checked operas preferences?
[13:02] <Flannel> Tefx: That's all the space you have in /boot?
[13:02] <imachine> I migrated 8,04 to 8,10 and I have issues with NM-applet not showing up.
[13:02] <imachine> it shows on my gf's account tho.
[13:02] <imachine> so I'm thinking it's some local user config issue.
[13:03] <imachine> I can obviously provide the error message if anyone cares to help out :)
[13:03] <arthur_8200> Paddy_EIRE, yeah and also java path.. and it says "looks like correct path"... but doesn't work
[13:03] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, the router is a router/firewall, however, i thought maybe using a PC as a firewall would be a better idea?
[13:03] <Karn> hi, anyone know a way to have a command start on login with a delay so you can cancel if desired?
[13:03] <saywot> imachine: there's a thread about the applet in the Ubuntu forum
[13:03] <Tefx> yeh i didnt set it up it was set up bymy server providers
[13:03] <Tefx> Flannel,
[13:03] <quackquack> bonjour
[13:03] <Flannel> Tefx: That's really not very functional at all.  Yeah, go ahead and remove the .bak I suppose.
[13:03] <saywot> adieu
[13:04] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: That depends on what features are availible on the router/firewall you already have. I'm not sure how well upnp is supported in linux or how difficult it is to set up.
[13:04] <imachine> saywot, could you care to point me at the right direction ?
[13:04] <Tefx> is there any way i can increase the size
[13:04] <usuario> carmen
[13:04] <RenatoSilva> Flannel: see them
[13:04] <Tefx> in a partioner
[13:04] <usuario> hola
[13:04] <RenatoSilva> icesword: see them
[13:04] <usuario> hello
[13:04] <bazhang> RenatoSilva, its offtopic
[13:04] <Flannel> Tefx: Are they on LVM?
[13:04] <usuario> what is your name?
[13:04] <usuario> ,mn
[13:04] <Tefx> doub tit think there soskid partions
[13:04] <saywot> imachine: you want me to search the ubuntu networking and wireless forum for you ?
[13:04] <Tefx> solid partions*
[13:05] <imachine> saywot, I'll sort it thanks
[13:05] <usuario> ok
[13:05] <imachine> saywot, what forum is taht tho ?
[13:05] <usuario> im from to spain
[13:05] <Flannel> Tefx: you can only resize partitions if they're not mounted.  So it's unlikely.
[13:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !es | usuario
[13:05] <BlueEagle> !offtopic | usuario
[13:05] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, i have a netgear adsl firewall router
[13:05] <usuario> hola
[13:05] <BlueEagle> !es | usuario
[13:05] <livebrain> ppl i'm trying to boot ubuntu for the first time. but i keep getting "sda1 does not exist" dropping to a sheel
[13:05] <quackquack> french or england?
[13:06] <imachine> saywot, ok got it
[13:06] <TecR0c> and the firewall configuration seems to be a little limited.
[13:06] <saywot> imachine; http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[13:06] <livebrain> i changed the menu.lst and fstab to include sda1
[13:06] <livebrain> but still no luck
[13:06] <usuario> adios
[13:06] <usuario> bye
[13:06] <TecR0c> Do you think it would be best to go setup smoothwall or something like that ?
[13:06] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: Well, what I would look for in a dedicated router/firewall was the ability set up nat, a dmz-server and upnp.
[13:07] <livebrain> ubutu sees the first partition on the first pata disk as sda1 right ?
[13:07] <BlueEagle> livebrain: Not always
[13:07] <Tefx> flannel i havent managed to get all of the dis-upgrade but here wat my puty window didnt eat http://paste.ubuntu.com/85112/
[13:07] <BlueEagle> livebrain: Wait, for pata that might be correct.
[13:07] <quizme> what's the diff between xubuntu and ubuntu ?
[13:07] <Tefx> Flannel, *
[13:08] <Paddy_EIRE> !xfce | quicksilver_
[13:08] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, ^^
[13:08] <livebrain> and sda1 in grub is hd0,0 right ?
[13:08] <BlueEagle> livebrain: But it might depend on the boot order set in your bios if you have a mixed pata/sata setup. Also grub gets confused really quick when you've got such a setup.
[13:08] <imachine> sayyeah I got it man ta
[13:08] <acdimalev> the 'sd' part of sda1 stands for "scsi disc" I believe.  if your controller doesn't register as a scsi device, it'll be hda1
[13:08] <quizme> apt-get install gaim  <--- is that right ?
[13:08] <imachine> quizme, pidgin
[13:08] <Flannel> Tefx: so, did you dist-upgrade again and it worked fine?
[13:08] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, it does do UPNP and it talks about default dmz server which i am not sure what it does?
[13:09] <livebrain> i used slackware as an livecd
[13:09] <livebrain> and in slack it shows the disk as hda
[13:09] <Tefx> i didnt cancel it out
[13:09] <quizme> apt-get install pidgin ?
[13:09] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, gaim is no longer... it became pidgin
[13:09] <Tefx> i left it ru nign iw asent gunan kill it on initrd from bad experiances of doign that o n my home system
[13:09] <acdimalev> quizme... you aren't using ubuntu, are you
[13:09] <Tefx> when i have mo cotnrol over the solid thing
[13:10] <BlueEagle> livebrain: ie. some broken bioses report the pata disk as the first disk even if you're not booting from it and it seems like grub assumes that it's on the disk the bios reports as the first one.
[13:10] <quizme> how do i install a *.deb file ?
[13:10] <Paddy_EIRE> !install
[13:10] <Tefx> i wudnt have bean able to save it so left it runnign and freeed up the space
[13:10] <Paddy_EIRE> quizme, click it
[13:10] <quizme> paddy_eire: thanks!
[13:10] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: A default dmz server is the one all trafic not blocked or redirected elsewhere (via nat or upnp and firewall)  goes to.
[13:11] <acdimalev> quizme: apt uses apt-repositories.  deb installs deb packages.  I heavily suggest reading up some bit before trying to install applications that are not within your distributions repositories.  your installation will last a lot longer if you take a bit of care.
[13:11] <livebrain> this is an laptop
[13:11] <livebrain> with only one disk
[13:12] <icqnumber> howto display a unicode character in gedit if the the number is given i.e. u+03B5?
[13:12] <BlueEagle> TecR0c: ie, I've setup my lappy as the default dmz server and if I need some ports forwarded to me I just set that up in the router and I don't need to touch the dmz.
[13:12] <livebrain> and changing hda1 or sda1 in menu.lst or fstab does nothing :X
[13:12] <livebrain> still the same error
[13:12] <acdimalev> livebrain, what are you trying to do?
[13:12] <livebrain> boot ubuntu for the first time
[13:12] <BlueEagle> Tefx: One of the advantages of using a dmz server is that the router blocks (or should block) new connections from dmz to lan.
[13:13] <livebrain> but it complains because sda1 does not exist
[13:13] <quizme> acdimalev: where can i read about that ?  It's for install skype.  I got the *.deb file from skype.
[13:13] <livebrain> but it does
[13:13] <acdimalev> livebrain, the normal installation failed?
[13:13] <nachohi88> what is a usplash?
[13:13] <livebrain> no, it all went fine during installation
[13:13] <BlueEagle> nachohi88: usplash is responsible for putting up that pretty screen while ubuntu is booting
[13:13] <TecR0c> BlueEagle, sorry i missed what you said
[13:13] <livebrain> first complained because of the uuid, coulnd find it
[13:14] <livebrain> then i changed from uuid to sda1
[13:14] <acdimalev> quizme, oh... in that case, save the deb file somewhere safe (you will want to keep it around for a long time), then install it with dpkg...
[13:14] <livebrain> now complains that it cant find sda1
[13:14] <Tefx> Flannel, right apts workign proeprly again but still gettign an error on dtc http://paste.ubuntu.com/85117/ and its saying it needs extra repos but isnt pullign them automaticly
[13:14] <acdimalev> quizme: man dpkg, and look for -i
[13:14] <nachohi88> well im trying to change that pretty screen but i can't
[13:14] <nachohi88> i use startup manager
[13:15] <acdimalev> livebrain, so after the installation, the boot from hard drive failed miserably.  are you trying to set up any kind of dual-booting?
[13:15] <quizme> acdimalev: it's half way done installing....
[13:15] <livebrain> no
[13:15] <Flannel> Tefx: Those would be packaging errors with your third party repositories.  You'd probably be best off taking it up with them.
[13:15] <livebrain> only ubuntu in this laptop
[13:15] <quizme> acdimalev: why use dpkg ?
[13:16] <acdimalev> quizme: at least the package works without any strange tweaks for you... they haven't bothered packaging it for 64-bit, so I had to repackage it myself :b
[13:16] <acdimalev> quizme: dpkg manages installation of deb files.  apt uses dpkg
[13:16] <imachine> so anyone, what can be done about this networkmanager applet not showing up ?
[13:16] <imachine> any help ?
[13:17] <livebrain> and the only way i have to install ubuntu is by pxe
[13:17] <imachine> it works on my other account.
[13:17] <imachine> no problems there.
[13:17] <imachine> same machine
[13:17] <act2bmp> hi to all, new to all this ? so I'll keep reading for now
[13:17] <quizme> acdimalev: i'm using 32 bit ubuntu 8.04.  i'm too wimpy for 64 bit
[13:17] <acdimalev> livebrain, you're doing a pxe installation????
[13:17] <livebrain> and now i have to boot slackware also by pxe chroot and then try no figure out the problem
[13:17] <livebrain> :X
[13:17] <acdimalev> livebrain, sorry man, but that sucks
[13:17] <wsco> where i can find programs for ubuntu
[13:17] <livebrain> cdrom is broken
[13:18] <acdimalev> quizme, too wimpy?
[13:18] <quizme> quizme: some apps don't work well on 64 bit, and i don't want to deal with it.
[13:19] <livebrain> i have in the menu.lst this: root (hd0,0)
[13:19] <acdimalev> quizme, my experience is that most all applications work very well, but there is a lot of misunderstanding regarding 64-bit linux, so I understand
[13:19] <livebrain> and then (..) root=/dev/sda1
[13:20] <livebrain> so why does ubuntu complains about not seeing sda1 ?
[13:20] <livebrain> blkid even shows the uuid and the device
[13:21] <quizme> in mandriva there is a cool desktop switch that rotates the desktop like a cube.  do they have that in ubuntu ?
[13:21] <nj32> ubuntu 8.10, mplayer hangs on terminal, any help?
[13:22] <quizme> acdimalev: what do u mean by a lot of misunderstanding ?
[13:22] <acdimalev> quizme, of the two really popular eye-candy X desktops, ubuntu uses the other one
[13:22] <bazhang> quizme, yep its called compiz-fusion
[13:22] <bazhang> !ccsm | quizme
[13:22] <bonhoffer>  i just ran out of room on my ubuntu partition (11 GB out of 80 on my ubuntu eee) what options do i have (can i grow my partition -- how do i do a 'treesize' graphical du to see where all this space is?
[13:23] <acdimalev> quizme, I have heard success stories of getting the one you are thinking of to work, but my understanding is that it can be very glitchy
[13:23] <quizme> acdimalev oh... :~(
[13:23] <acdimalev> quizme, two things that most people get all confused about... first is that you don't need a 64-bit application to run under 64-bit linux... Intel's old 64-bit processors required 64-bit code, but that died out
[13:24] <bonhoffer> if i can resize my ubuntu partition -- how do i do it?\
[13:24] <istvan> hi sll
[13:24] <istvan> a
[13:25] <quizme> acdimalev: wahts the 2nd thing?
[13:25] <icqnumber> howto display a unicode character in gedit if the the number is given i.e. u+03B5?
[13:25] <acdimalev> quizme, the second thing is that 32-bit applications can only use 32-bit libraries... the debian family only packages a handful of those libraries, so if anything else is used, they really should be distributing those libraries with the application
[13:25] <Codenut> Can I assign a tty to a video card and display a bash shell to that screen to use irssi?
[13:25] <istvan> hardware questions are ok too?
[13:25] <nrb> is this an african os?
[13:26] <istvan> nrb not really, but the name comes from there because of it's meaning
[13:26] <acdimalev> icqnumber, ctrl+shift+u 03b5
[13:27] <istvan> does anyone know, if I have a PICe 1.0 card and PCIe16 slot would it work despite the extra room or not?
[13:27] <sgroi135> Anyone Here have any exp with Nepenthes?
[13:27] <quizme> acdimalev, for example, i heard that you have to jump through hoops just to get 64 bit mysql installed.
[13:27] <imachine> okay I think I fixed the thing with nm-applet on 8.10
[13:28] <imachine> I'll post on lanchpad
[13:28] <acdimalev> hmm… is it more "nifty" to connect via SSL or IPv6…
[13:28] <icqnumber> acdimalev, thank you
[13:29] <acdimalev> imachine, "the thing with nm-applet"
[13:29] <wsco> Hello , where i can find programs to work in ubuntu , i'm new to ubuntu
[13:29] <jrib> quizme: that's not true...
[13:29] <biotrox> wsco, applications
[13:30] <jrib> wsco: you should obtain all your programs from the repositories using Add/Remove Programs or System -> Administration -> Synaptic in your menus
[13:30] <jrib> !software > wsco
[13:30]  * istvan is waiting for some attention
[13:30] <acdimalev> quizme, I have mysql installed… I typed "apt-get install mysql" and it installed.
[13:30] <quizme> i'm just scared of 64bit
[13:30]  * jrib is waiting for istvan's question
[13:30] <quizme> acdimalev.... ok maybe it was an old post
[13:31] <heruhday> hi
[13:31] <imachine> acdimalev, the thing I mentioned a few minutes ago.
[13:31] <imachine> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/273860 this thing
[13:31] <istvan> jrib: thanks, I'm wondering if I can use a PICe 1.0 card in PCIe 16 slot. it fit,s but there's loads of room left
[13:31] <jrib> quizme: the only real issue that I can think of for desktop users at this point is the lack of a java plugin from sun, but 64 bit users can just use the icedea plugin
[13:31] <jrib> istvan: ask ##hardware
[13:31] <acdimalev> quizme, usually reports like that come in when somebody is using something experimental (like… debian unstable), or when somebody has installed a bunch of software incorrectly.
[13:31] <istvan> thanks
[13:31] <imachine> now there is only nvidia issues and we should be well okay on the run :-)
[13:32] <quizme> acdimalev: i heard Ruby's memory footprint is much larger with 64 bit too.
[13:33] <acdimalev> imachine, that looks nasty
[13:33] <acdimalev> quizme, knowing Ruby… probably.
[13:33] <acdimalev> quizme, I would expect it to nearly double
[13:33] <Koordin> hi, i'm wondering what is the difference between 'cat file' and 'cat <file'
[13:33] <sidcley> bom dia
[13:34] <cha1n> does anyone know if a ubuntu live cd would be able to mount a software raid 0 oin xp pro?
[13:34] <sidcley> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[13:34] <jrib> !br | sidcley
[13:34] <jrib> Koordin: nothing
[13:35] <acdimalev> Koordin, 1. the 'cat' application actually opens the file 2. bash opens the file and pipes it into 'cat'
[13:35] <Koordin> "cat <file" is equivalent to "cat file | cat" ?
[13:35] <acdimalev> Koordin, unless you have cat installed with the setuid bit, which is not the default and would be very odd if you did, there is no effective difference.
[13:36] <jrib> Koordin: you get the same result but it isn't obtained in the same way
[13:36] <Koordin> acdimalev: yes but there is difference between "cat <file >file" and "cat file > file". i don't understand why the first command delete the content of file
[13:36] <acdimalev> Koordin, but, if for some reason you actually did have cat installed setuid, "cat file" would work for files that you don't have permission to where "cat < file" would not
[13:37] <Koordin> ok
[13:37] <Koordin> actually i was just wondering why does "cat <file > file" delete the content of file
[13:37] <acdimalev> never read from and write to a file in the same command
[13:37] <acdimalev> it is bad practice and very difficult to tell what order the read/write will occur in
[13:38] <acdimalev> and thanks to copy on write, it can sometimes be extremely confusing
[13:38] <acdimalev> use a temporary file instead
[13:38] <Koordin> acdimalev: i know, but this is just an exercise
[13:38] <cousteau> wel, cat <file will read the content of file, and if you write it to file (>file), then file will be deleted
[13:39] <leo> exit
[13:39] <Koordin> cousteau: because it has nothing to read anymore ?
[13:39] <cousteau> because the first time it writes to file it completely rewrites it
[13:40] <neil_d> I notice that 8.04 has the 2.6.24 kernel will this be upgraded to the 2.6.25 kernel any time soon ?
[13:40] <Koordin> cousteau: yes but why he doesn't write the content of file within it ?
[13:40] <Nith> can I trust ubuntu's use of an NTFS drive yet?
[13:40] <anasmar> Hola gente :D
[13:40] <Flannel> neil_d: No
[13:41] <array> is anyone aware of a utility to mount .vhd (virtual hard disk) in linux?
[13:41] <acdimalev> Koordin: I am surprised that you aren't losing the contents of the file on both commands.  far as I am aware, the moment you point a redirect at a file, the contents of the file are destroyed, and then the individual commands are executed
[13:41]  * cousteau thought that .vhd were VHDL files
[13:42]  * dapper-daniel is searching someone using USBIP
[13:42] <acdimalev> array, if you look around, there are some notes on how to use a very odd mount command to perform a loop mount to a file with a given offset
[13:42] <neil_d> Flannel: ahhh ok ..... just reading the docs for the highpoint RocketRAID that say they have a driver in the 2.6.25 kernel
[13:42] <Koordin> acdimalev: actually "cat file > file" is not allowed by my shell
[13:43] <array> neil_d: thanks, i ended up finding something - i can run VHDmount in CrossOver :)
[13:43] <acdimalev> array, if you find a clean way to mount the contents of a hdd iso, please let me know :)
[13:43] <acdimalev> Koordin: not allowed?
[13:43] <Flannel> neil_d: New Ubuntu versions are the times you get new kernel versions.  Jaunty will have a newer one, for instance.
[13:43] <korogiannos> Any improvements to Intrepid since release?  I'd like to convert my family PC from XP.  I know hardy works perfectly but am considering Intrepid.  Is it too early? have the "teething problems" been sorted?  Thanks for your input.
[13:44] <Koordin> acdimalev: "cat: toto: input file is output file" but i have not understand yet why the content of file is not rewritten when i do a "cat <file > file"
[13:44] <Djerkaf> So, I just realized, Ubuntu is the worst thing ever happening to me. But still, I want to test something else before going back to XP. I want a simple OS, that just works. And I want to be able to use some quick remote manegement program like xvnc4viewer. What should I try?
[13:44] <acdimalev> korogiannos, seems to be running fine for me.  so long as your family PC isn't a laptop, I'd recommend it.
[13:44] <Flannel> korogiannos: What are you looking to upgrade to Intrepid for?  There's nothing wrong with sticking to Hardy until 2010 (or until something comes out in Ubuntu you absolutely need)
[13:44] <cousteau> there's a way to cat <file >file without deleting it
[13:44] <korogiannos> ﻿acdimalev: Thanks.  anyone else?
[13:44] <acdimalev> korogiannos, even if it is a laptop, I'd recommend it, but I have had oddities with brining my computer out of hibernation at new locations with different wireless hotspots.  it just isn't smart about it.
[13:45] <cousteau> something like sh "cat <file" >file
[13:45] <korogiannos> Flannel: That's the main reason I'd stick.  "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[13:45] <cousteau> useful when you want to sed a file
[13:45] <neil_d> cousteau: would 'tee' help
[13:46] <Koordin> cousteau: i'm not trying to rewrite file, i'm just trying to understand the command "cat <file >file"
[13:46] <obst__> couch
[13:46] <acdimalev> cousteau, not trying to be rude, but if somebody tells you that one end of a hammer is for banding nails in and the other is for plying nails out… would you really ask if there is any way to do both with a single side of the hammer?
[13:46] <obst__> couch
[13:46] <chfwiggum> cat >> will append it
[13:46] <cousteau> it's easy: cat <file: write the content of file
[13:46] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: What sorts of problems has Ubuntu been giving you?
[13:46] <Koordin> cat <file writes the content of file in stdout
[13:47] <cousteau> >file: delete file and write the output of the previous command
[13:47] <Koordin> yes
[13:47] <Koordin> and the output of the previous command should be the content of file ?
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau I am not awake and just got here but here is a basic command I use example..  lsb_release -a > ~/Desktop/Ubuntu_Version_Info.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Ubuntu_Version_Info.txt
[13:47] <cousteau> so if you delete 'file' then when you 'cat <file' there's nothing to write
[13:47] <acdimalev> Koordin, where you aren't understanding this is that pipes and redirection get handled before anything is actually executed
[13:47] <Koordin> ok
[13:48] <Guest83237> hi guys
[13:48] <Guest10245> may i ask a question plz?
[13:48] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: Because I switched over a week ago from Win XP; and sure, it took me the better part of the week to get everything tweaked, but ealmost everything is working quite well now.
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau >> appends and does not overwrite what is there
[13:48] <sybux> anyone know how to print on a Dell inkJet 928 ? I'm connecting throw samba
[13:48] <Guest10245> i have problem with my wireless
[13:48] <acdimalev> so you are destroying the file for writing before the cammands you are trying to run actually read the file in
[13:48] <Koordin> so it opens and deletes file before doing "cat <file" ?
[13:48] <Guest10245> anyone? :(
[13:48] <chfwiggum> !ask
[13:48] <tiyowan> !ask | Guest10917
[13:48] <imachine> acdimalev, what does?
[13:48] <Nith> cousteau: i'm pretty sure that it does some things in parallel, so you're right that you cant cat < file.txt > file.txt
[13:48] <imachine> the graphcis or the nmapplet ?
[13:48] <imachine> I think it's fixed
[13:49] <Koordin> ok thanks everyone
[13:49] <cousteau> yes, but >> would append file to file, then append "filefile", then "filefilefilefile" ...
[13:49] <imachine> I'll take a look at it in a sec.
[13:49] <imachine> ]
[13:49] <imachine> ;]
[13:49] <FloodBot2> imachine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <Guest83237> when i tr to install fglrx drivers i have several options:fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?
[13:49] <UnknownUser56> Guest10245,What is it ?
[13:49] <acdimalev> imachine, this looks really nasty.  I don't think I've personally seen it, but it just does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/273860
[13:49] <acdimalev> imachine, I felt a need to comment on it
[13:49] <Guest10245> i have problem with my wireless
[13:49] <Guest83237> when i try to install fglrx drivers i have several options:dkms-fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?
[13:49] <Koordin> and why does "cat >file" wait input from stdin ?
[13:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest83237 Please hold down the repeats and wait for an answer
[13:50] <Nith> Koordin: because you haven't specified a file for cat to cat.. thus it uses standard out
[13:50] <Nith> *standard in
[13:50] <Koordin> Nith: ok
[13:50] <Guest83237> Jack_Sparrow, this was not a repeat, but i change something, you see?
[13:51] <acdimalev> a lot of bad manuals written by evil people suggest using cat as a cheap way to populate files without a text editor, via stdin
[13:51] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: do you know anything about dependability of ntfs on intrepid?
[13:51] <acdimalev> since then, nano and pico became commonplace on boot discs
[13:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith I have not heard of any issues
[13:52] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: many thanks :)
[13:52] <Guest10245> anyone? :(
[13:52] <Djerkaf> tiyowan: I have given Ubuntu a chance a couple of times before too, but it never has worked properly. Every time there has been some error that no one could explain, some problem no one could solve. This time, I have Ubuntu on a laptop. I wanted to connect a TV. I was told to reboot. I did, and now my maximum resolution is 800x600, and I can't seem to fix it back...
[13:52] <acdimalev> Nith, writing files is still not recommended, but generally works.  do *not* open a file with an application directly on an NTFS partition
[13:52] <chfwiggum> Guest10245: r u kidding?
[13:52] <Guest10245> no
[13:53] <engie> Hi. After going to the Hardware Drivers panel my system is "Searching for available drivers" and a progress bar is bounding back and forth at 0%. An apt-get update works fine in the background. What is this trying to do and can I work around it?
[13:53] <catmando_> hey, could someone on itrepid have a look and tell me what the version of glx-new in the repo is?
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !info abs-guide
[13:53] <cousteau> echo `cat <file` >file
[13:53] <Jack_Sparrow> THe programming discussion should probably be moved to a more appropiate channel
[13:53] <cousteau> this writes the whole content of file before starting to write to file
[13:53] <acdimalev> catmando_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:54] <tiyowan> Djerkaf: Hmm...that's quite odd, really.
[13:54] <Guest83237> Hi guys, when i try to install fglrx drivers i have several options:dkms-fglrx, x11-driver-video-fglrx, fglrx-(kernel version), which one of this is really a kernel driver, and what are which one of this for?; anybody knows about this?
[13:54] <jrib> !info nvidia-glx-177 | catmando_
[13:54] <Nith> acdimalev: so I've i'm building a dual boot system, I should still keep my data partition with fat32 then?
[13:54] <Leefmc> Question: How can i disable Alt+Drag window movement?
[13:54] <jrib> !nvidia > catmando_
[13:55] <Nith> acdimalev: where data partition is a third that sits between the os's
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith I keep a fat32 around
[13:55] <jrib> Leefmc: system -> preferences -> window   will let you change alt to super or ctrl
[13:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith It does not matter where it is, it will be fine, while you are creating partitions, add a seperate one for /home
[13:55] <acdimalev> Nith, I personally copy files between my NTFS and ext3 partitions.
[13:55] <Leefmc> jrib: Ah thank you. It was driving me nuts.. it wasn't listed under keyboard shortcuts.. heh
[13:55] <Djerkaf> Is there some quick way to reset Ubuntu, so everything is like after a fresh installation?
[13:55] <blip-> hi all, I need some help configuring remote access for mysql on ubuntu 7.04, I'm editing /etc/mysql/my.cnf ... an online guide says I should add the line "bind-address=YOUR-SERVER-IP"....  is the IP meant to be the IP of the machine that has mysql running on it ?  or the client machine that will access the mysql db remotely ?   thanks
[13:56] <sladen> Djerkaf: what told you to reboot?  Anyway, System->Preferences-Screen Resolution
[13:56] <Jack_Sparrow> acdimalev yes, but that requires the extfs driver in windows..
[13:56] <jrib> Djerkaf: if you just want to reset your user's configurations, create a new user
[13:56] <Leefmc> jrib: Ouch.. can i disable that somehow? I dont want ANY functionality like that heh.
[13:56] <quizme> it says "New restrictued drivers in use.  In order for this computer to function properly, Ubuntu is using driver software that cannot be supported by Ubuntu.  <--- what's does "cannot be supported by Ubuntu" mean ?
[13:56] <acdimalev> Jack_Sparrow, no, I mean that I do all my copying from Linux
[13:57] <jrib> Leefmc: not that I know of.  Check metacity keys in gconf-editor and look at metacity's source depending on how badly you want to do that
[13:57] <quizme> i just enabled my video card's driver to be enabled... one downloaded from ATI Radeon
[13:57] <Roberto2> hola
[13:57] <Leefmc> jrib: See modifier+drag is very useful in 3D (Rotating/Moving/Zooming/etc) and having the inability to use one of those is a huge limiting factor.
[13:57] <Djerkaf> sladen: I set my TV as second screen, and I was told to reboot
[13:57] <jrib> Leefmc: super is probably free though
[13:57] <Djerkaf> sladen: The screen resolution "window" doesn't do anything for me.
[13:57] <Jack_Sparrow> acdimalev How does that help in sharing files to our windows os?
[13:57] <Leefmc> jrib: Ugh.. i hate when there are design decisions to force "ideas" onto people.
[13:57] <Roberto2> alguien habla español??
[13:57] <jrib> !es | Roberto2
[13:58] <Leefmc> jrib: Well, it wouldn't be if i had the ability to use it, but gnome isn't letting me use it apparently. Feels like windows deciding whats best for me :o
[13:58] <acdimalev> trying to connect via IPv6… this should be interesting.
[13:58] <Ace2016> Anyone know how to install vista after linux and not destroy the bootloader?
[13:58] <sladen> Djerkaf: do you still have the TV plugged in?
[13:58] <jrib> Leefmc: I assume if you put something random into /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier you might get the desired effect
[13:58] <Djerkaf> sladen: No.
[13:58] <mooncup> ﻿DCC SEND "ffɦʞɔfɟ" 0 0 0
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace2016 ou cant... but easy enough to fix
[13:58] <Leefmc> jrib: I'll take a look, thanks
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: have you rebooted since unplugging the TV
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Yes.
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Have tried to change drivers, but no change.
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: have you clicked "detect displays"
[13:59] <Ace2016> i thought i read somewhere that vista didn't nuke the mbr when you install it
[13:59] <Djerkaf> sladen: Yes.
[13:59] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: I intend to mount this middle partition as my /home and in windows, as my "My Documents"... so if I'm reading and writing alot then fat32 sounds like the better choice, no?
[13:59] <sladen> Djerkaf: oh right.  what have you tried to change it to?
[14:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith you cant use fat32 for home
[14:00] <acdimalev> hah, nice.  /whois acdimalev
[14:00] <Djerkaf> sladen: I'm not at that computer now, but I set it to some Ati Radeon thingie, because I found out that is what's inside the computer.
[14:00] <hoonteke> how do I access teh pulseaudio control panel in intrepid?  in hardy, when I started pa, there was an icon in the systray but now I don't see much.
[14:01] <jrib> hoonteke: is paprefs what you want?
[14:01] <sladen> Djerkaf: try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  which will ask it to run the driver autodetection again
[14:01] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: "sorry, as the "Documents" folder in my /home... I keep my /home for settings and temp files only
[14:01] <hoonteke> Ace2016: was this perhaps an MS blog?  I'll bet Vista plays nice with other MS products
[14:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Nith ntfs for our windows, a fat32, two ext3 one for root and one for home plus a last couple gig for swap which probably wont get used much
[14:01] <Ace2016> oh
[14:01] <Djerkaf> sladen: I did try that...
[14:01] <Djerkaf> sladen: But, then my keyboard stopped working completely
[14:02] <hoonteke> jrib: perhaps, but ... I dont' see it on my system
[14:02] <hoonteke> is that an extra package I have to install?
[14:02] <Djerkaf> sladen: So I guess I have to reinstall. But then I want to try something different...
[14:02] <jrib> hoonteke: yes
[14:02] <Nith> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I'll use a similar structure. Thanks :)
[14:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:02] <acdimalev> and yet it has just occurred to me… if I am connected via IPv6, I'm not going to be able to direct-connect to anybody on IPv4, huh.
[14:02] <sladen> Djerkaf: try it without the '-phigh' and you will be given an option to confirm each step in the autodetction (such as selecting a different keyboard)
[14:02] <jrib> sladen: I'm not sure that's true anymore
[14:03] <sladen> jrib: what isn't true
[14:03] <hoonteke> jrib: ah, that's more of what I want, but I'm want the screen that lets me redirect already playing streams
[14:03] <Djerkaf> sladen: I forgot this part before I asked my question here. After rebooting the last time, - after the reconfiguring, the keyboard didn't work, and therefor I couldn't login :( I fucked it up.
[14:03] <jrib> hoonteke: don't know then.  Figure out what the command was on hardy
[14:04] <Djerkaf> sladen: But, is there some OS I should try, that is more user friendly than Ubuntu...?
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sladen dpkg-reconfigure is different in intrepid than previous versions of ubuntu
[14:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Djerkaf offtopic
[14:04] <jrib> sladen: that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will offer you those configuration options you are mentioning
[14:04] <sladen> Djerkaf: reboot, select "(single user mode)" from the boot list and enter the reconfiguration here
[14:04] <dex> #polska
[14:05] <Djerkaf> sladen: I'll try that. Thanks.
[14:05] <botanicus> Djerkaf, u can try OpenSUSE, but Ubuntu is pretty good I think. And of course OS X, it's pretty cool.
[14:05] <dex> join #polska
[14:05] <botanicus> Hey guys.
[14:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > botanicus
[14:05] <not-op-bot> cat: /aber/jqh8/irssi/ascii/dcc.txt: No such file or directory
[14:05] <botanicus> I have problem with sound in 8.10
[14:06] <jrib> not-op-bot: huh?
[14:06] <sladen> jrib: perhaps you should try running that command yourself before making statements about what it does or doesn't do (hint, it won't break your system as it'll be reconfirming the settings you already have)
[14:06] <botanicus> Jack_Sparrow, he was asking, I just reply.
[14:06] <not-op-bot> oops jrib
[14:06] <not-op-bot> something broke
[14:06] <Jack_Sparrow> botanicus I told him he was offtopic when he asked which should have been a clue to not answer that line of questioning
[14:06] <botanicus> Permissions are OK, I guess some drivers are missing. Any ideas?
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sladen we have many times.. and I think we know it better than you do
[14:07] <botanicus> Jack_Sparrow, OK, sorry
[14:07] <cousteau> when will be a Jaunty LiveCD out?
[14:07] <nachohi88> people need help
[14:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau 9.04
[14:07] <nachohi88> my uplashes doesn't load
[14:07] <jrib> sladen: ok, I just did.  Now you try.  See if it offers the option to select a video driver
[14:08] <nachohi88> tried everithing
[14:08] <hoonteke> jrib: padevchooser is what I was looking for.  But weird, I wonder why the pa team has decided to split up pa into so many packages and not install them per default?  huh
[14:08] <cousteau> i mean, not the final one, but an alpha or beta
[14:08] <nachohi88> not even with startup manager
[14:08] <Jack_Sparrow> cousteau /j #Ubuntu+1 for that
[14:09] <cousteau> ok
[14:09] <nachohi88> any idea?
[14:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nachohi88 please tr patience and wait for an answer and ou need to form a better question with info about what you did other than I did everything..
[14:10] <jrib> hoonteke: probably because most people won't use that functionality I guess
[14:10] <Roberto2> i don't idea
[14:10] <DarkKnight> hey just have a look at this and tell me what do u think about this....
[14:11] <sladen> jrib: agreed, it does no longer present the video driver upgrade (it should however (hopefully) fix djerkaf's keyboard issue)
[14:11] <Roberto2> ok
[14:12] <ascii_> quick question people, trying to install ubuntu intrepid server onto my server, but my cd-rom is gone, so i was trying to do it from a usb, but it complains about my cd-rom, so i can't install it, any tips?
[14:13] <jrib> sladen: configuration for the keyboard no longer happens in xorg.conf and settings there will be ignored without the server flag.  I think 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup' reconfigures that stuff though
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ how did you put it onto the usb
[14:13] <nachohi88> ok i use startup manager so to change the uplash but any of the new ones doen't work... just the original one
[14:13] <cousteau> download the cd image, mount it and install from it
[14:13] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, used unetbootin..
[14:13] <cousteau> the alternate cd iso
[14:13] <jrib> s/server flag/proper server flag
[14:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[14:14] <cousteau> ..ok, forget about what I said, I was thinking on upgrading
[14:14] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, that was how i did it..
[14:14] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[14:15] <ascii_> but when i boot and start installing, it's complaining about missing cd-rom(prob because it needs the files), but those are on the usb..
[14:15] <vac> Just a question: Is there a better power management for a Dell insp 1501 on Ubuntu Hardy ?
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ I had a script somewhere for iso2usb that worked on earlier versions..
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> ascii_ Not sure if this will help bt... Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[14:17] <catmando_> i think i'm going mad
[14:17] <Lasiv> how does Ubuntu handle "non-free" packages?
[14:18] <ascii_> Jack_Sparrow, i'll give it a go, thanks :)
[14:18] <catmando_> why isn't sudo /etc/init.d/gmd stop, followed by restarting x drop me to the command line?
[14:18] <Lasiv> i'm just wondering if it's going to stay sitting on my system if I refuse to pay during the install, etc
 I hope you'r joking :))
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasiv There will be no request to pay  ... cute
[14:19] <jrib> Lasiv: you're using the wrong definition of "free"
[14:19] <jrib> !free | Lasiv
[14:19] <Lasiv> vac: i'm just being cautious
[14:19] <Lasiv> I need "unrar" and I have a free and a non-free version
[14:20] <hoonteke> Lasiv: that's non-Free as in Free (what a lot folks think of as open source)
[14:20] <Lasiv> questions before doing something = good :)
[14:20] <vac> Look at Ubottu... :)
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasiv ou can safely get the non-free and be charged
[14:20] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: eh?
[14:20] <catmando_> hmm
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib Morning...
[14:20] <Lasiv> Jack_Sparrow: I assume that's a typo
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yes..
[14:20] <Lasiv> k
[14:21] <Lasiv> thanks
[14:21] <vac> sorry have to go...
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Lasiv Just proves I need that first cup of coffee.. brb
[14:22] <Lasiv> no worries
[14:22] <catmando_> so, anyone?
[14:23] <zohreh> hello
[14:23] <catmando_> what am i missing - i can't see why doing /etc/init.d/gdm stop _wouldn't_ kill the running X session
[14:23] <guyarye> I have a question about vlc, I am using a skin and I can't remove it or go to settings
[14:23] <guyarye> What can I do?
[14:23] <zohreh> i have question about socket programming in c++ , who can help me?
[14:24] <quizme> apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[14:24] <quizme> awesome stuff.
[14:24] <lahori> where is tcl lib directory located?
[14:25] <jrib> zohreh: try ##c++
[14:26] <lahori> where is tcl lib directory located?
[14:26] <ardchoille> Wow, so far Intrepid has recognized everything I've plugged into it.
[14:26] <jrib> ardchoille: try your toaster?
[14:26] <lahori> lol
[14:26] <jrib> lahori: why?
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori Please hold down the repeats and wait for an answer
[14:27] <DarkKnight> hey just have a look at this and tell me what do u think about this....
[14:27] <ardchoille> jrib: hehe
[14:27] <DarkKnight> hey just have a look at this and tell me what do u think about this....http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[14:27] <lahori> jrib: i need to install Tile and it says put it in your tcl lib directory
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight please post a description along with any link you post into the channel
[14:27] <lahori> am new to linux, ubuntu 8.10
[14:28] <core10> hai blh knln nggk
[14:28] <E-XtraCt> how can i get the HD's numbers ?
[14:29] <matt____1> When using rsync over nfs, it starts out at like 12MBps,but then goes down down down to like .5Mbmps. This is on a single 1.5gb file. I think I remember something about fstab that makes nfs faster?
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !id
[14:29] <ardchoille> !blkid | E-XtraCt
[14:30] <lahori> why are linux applications have such fancy names
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> E-XtraCt uid's or did you want   sudo fdisk -l   last letter is L
[14:30] <blip-> hi all, where can I find the logs of apache/php to check for errors on ubuntu ?  thanks
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> blip- #apache is a better source of answers on that
[14:31] <Wesleysld>  /var/log/apache2/    then access.log (thats by me)
[14:31] <sancho21> I couldn't install Ubuntu 8.10 on Joybook Benq R43. How to solve this?
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > sancho21
[14:32] <blip-> ok thanks
[14:32] <Wesleysld> or errors.log or something
[14:32] <E-XtraCt> is this GRUB entry should work ? http://pastebin.com/ma0f6ccb
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> blip- not trying to run you off, just point you to better answers to your questions
[14:33] <blip-> np,  thanks :)
[14:34] <lahori> what's the best and most alike mIRC irc client for linux... i've tried xChat / Konversation but am still not comfortable... I tried mIRC with Wine but that does not give a 100% compatibility too... anyone?
[14:34] <Jack_Sparrow> E-XtraCt http://pastebin.com/d30c9ee4b
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori Try kvirc, but xchat can really be made to look and work as good as mirc which is what I used to use
[14:36] <lahori> hmmm
[14:36] <lahori> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> E-XtraCt did I lose you?
[14:36] <lahori> i'll try kvirc
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori do you just like the screen layout or what on mirc
[14:38] <lahori> huh, i just installed kvirc with apt-get... it installed but it did not appear under Applications > Internet...
[14:38] <zabbadapp> IR-reciever in Nova T-500 seems to have stopped working all together, i.e. not even show up in dmesg ... I did a test install of 8.10 a week ago and then it worked (same hardware), but now after the reinstall it's gone. Anyone know what's wrong?
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori try and do it from cli
[14:39] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: cli ?
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori here is a screen of my xchat..  and cli = from terminal..   http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxchatjackspartd4.png
[14:41] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: its cool
[14:41] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori Which one
[14:42] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: the screenshot
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ah
[14:42] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori Like I said, xchat is very flexible
[14:43] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: yeah i believe so... but it would take me some time to get used to the linux environment.. been using windows all my life...
[14:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori a client is a client.. OS  really does not enter into it that much
[14:44] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: how can i add kvirc with cli?
[14:44] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori did you get kvirc to run..   test by typing kvirc in a terminal window
[14:45] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: lol it worked
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> lahori If you like it, you can create a launcer on your desktop etc
[14:45] <lahori> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i would do that.. thank you
[14:45] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:46] <cma_> hello
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[14:46] <thiebaude1> hi cma_
[14:47] <guyarye> I have a question about vlc, I am using a skin and I can't remove it or go to settings
[14:49] <gaelfx1> I am having trouble updating, this is the error I get: http://pastebin.com/d9724d9b How can I fix this?
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelfx1 have you added or changed any of your sources?
[14:50] <gaelfx1> guyarye: sounds like you will have to edit the config file or do a complete reinstall
[14:50] <gaelfx1> Jack_Sparrow: not recently enough for that to be the cause
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelfx1 I would start by sudo apt-get update      and see if that helps
[14:50] <gaelfx1> Jack_Sparrow: that's the error that update gives :S
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> gaelfx1 then take a look at sources, something in there is the prob
[14:51] <alnayyir> where do I add my resolutions to my xorg.conf? none were added by default.
[14:51] <churl> this is probably an easy fix, xfmedia player wont play audio/video, audacious wont play audio, but totem is working fine.
[14:51] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: tried an autocelan from apt-get?
[14:51] <Jack_Sparrow> alnayyir that is the NEW xorg..  YEa, I hate it too
[14:51] <gaelfx1> alnayyir: if you're using 8.10, that's not the way to do it
[14:52] <Tefx> hey guys im havign soem realy anoyign problems that are still ocuring ive removed the added reposertory i thoguth maybe causign the problem btu that hasent helped im tryign to instal DTC web panel off the ubunto repos and it keeps failign whictch it hadent in the past any ideas on how i can fix this
[14:52] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: I'll try that now, thanks!
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Buzzzz why would cleaning out old debs help that problem
[14:52] <webas> hi.. :) how to install same files in another pc..that i got from Aptitude install -d ?
[14:52] <Tefx> im willign to give peopel ssh acses to the box to help me check it out
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > webas
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Tefx Which version of ubuntu
[14:53] <Tefx> 8.04
[14:53] <webas> am thanks but i dont understand which command line i should run jack_sparrow
[14:53] <Tefx> on a dedicated box
[14:53] <Buzzzz> anyone here who have managed to get 8.10 the switch between 2 sound cards?
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> webas that clone factoid has the commands in order
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Tefx Please use the pastebin to post the errors for us
[14:55] <Tefx> cos the installation had worked before btu id made a monumental co*k up lols so i removed it all to retsratt the installation and it worked again i made the cock up once again btu n a diffrent place so removed it exsactly the same way i had before and nwo aptitude is throwign errors also it removed the dependancies it had downlaoded ont he first time and wont pull the dependancies this time
[14:55] <andresmh> anyone knows where i can change the icon of the volume control? (this one: http://thinkdavid.net/upload/screenshot.png)
[14:56] <atb101010> I need some help!
[14:56] <andresmh> i'm using the mac4lin theme and it looks very pixelated
[14:56] <Tefx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85169/ Jack_Sparrow
[14:56] <andresmh> i'd rather not have it
[14:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Tefx If you change the repos and install things that hose up your system, returning the sources to supported ones wont fix the problems
[14:56] <webas> i still dont understand and the first command line didnt worked.. :| its complicated
[14:56] <Tefx> yes btu the thign is
[14:56] <Tefx> there is nothgin left of dtc on the system
[14:56] <Tefx> or nto atleats what i can find
[14:57] <Tefx> ill do a dbupdate and lclate again and scheck
[14:57] <thiebaude1> andresmh: just change your icon theme
[14:57] <usser_> Tefx, did u delete dtc-common as it suggests
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Tefx delete that deb in /var/cache and try again
[14:57] <Buzzzz> Tefx: if you try to force remove it?
[14:57] <Tefx> doen doen and done
[14:57] <churl> this is probably an easy fix, xfmedia player wont play audio/video, audacious wont play audio, but totem is working fine.  am i over looking an easy fix here?
[14:57] <Tefx> ive tried it all lols
[14:57] <atb101010> trying to build my first linux system from scratch from barebone system: dual hard drive in raid0 configuration in the BIOS
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Tefx Did you manually delete  /var/cache/apt/archives/dtc_0.25.3-2ubuntu1_all.deb        ?
[14:58] <Tefx> yep
[14:58] <Buzzzz> atb101010: try to stay away from software raid if you can
[14:58] <DarkKnight> hey just have a look at this and tell me what do u think about this....http://ossarchives.blogspot.com    this is my blog containing some posts from this IRC itself....i just need feedback
[14:58] <alnayyir> software raid is the devil and brings only tears to its followers.
[14:58] <atb101010> managed to install ubuntu 8.04 lts desktop on hard drive, managed to boot a couple of times from hd, but then started to experience problems
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight Stop doing that..  thanks
[14:59] <andresmh> thiebaude1, i just want to change that particular icon though, I went to System > Preference > Apperance and Ican't find it there
[14:59] <gaelfx1> yeah, autoclean still gives the same error
[15:00] <atb101010> ubuntu did not seem to recognize raid0 setup in bios so disabled raid function in bios, then all hell broke loos
[15:00] <thiebaude1> andresmh: click customize and then on the top row, is it there?
[15:00] <gaelfx1> I've had similar problems, but if the error is a parse error, it usually gives a line that got garbled somehow, but this time I have no idea where the problem is
[15:00] <thiebaude1> icons
[15:00] <atb101010> can't even boot linux from cd-rom
[15:00] <annibal> Ciaoo A TUTTI
[15:00] <atb101010> what to do?
[15:00] <ardchoille> andresmh: There's a help thread for Mac4Lin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=916410
[15:01] <ardchoille> andresmh: are you trying to change the main menu icon?
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> atb101010 changing raid in the bios will have no effect on your cdrom booting a livecd
[15:01] <thiebaude1> andresmh: it should be easy as just changing your icon theme
[15:01] <zabbadapp> if I boot the 8.10 iso from usb and run dmesg, the T-500 IR-reciever is there, but if I boot my installed 8.10 (even with the same 2.6.27-7 kernel), it is gone from dmesg!
[15:01] <Tefx> yes done that jack
[15:01] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: i just got here. what happens with your dvd/cd drive?
[15:01] <andresmh> ardchoille, thiebaude1: i only want to change the volume control icon: this one: http://thinkdavid.net/upload/screenshot.png
[15:02] <atb101010> getting Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 when I try to boot from dvd
[15:02] <DasEi> ﻿atb101010: check if your bios is set to boot from cd first
[15:02] <ardchoille> andresmh: That should change when you change the icon theme
[15:02] <thiebaude1> andresmh: im not sure how to just change the volumn icon
[15:02] <DasEi> ﻿atb101010: fd0 is floppy, uncheck that in bios
[15:02] <atb101010> yes, dvd is first boot device
[15:02] <atb101010> dont have a floppy installed on my system
[15:03] <atb101010> think it should be disabled in the bios
[15:03] <andresmh> ardchoille, i know it would change if i change the icon theme, but i don't want to change the icon theme, i just want to change that icon
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> atb101010 I have had that many times , if you wait, you should see it error on the floppy drive twice, pause then finish the install
[15:03] <ksbalaji> I want to have iso image mounting privilege. When I give mount command, I get message: only root can do that.
[15:03] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; my efforts where only for providing solutions to other ubuntu users and also that i may learn from it.....so i just wanted to know what people think about it....
[15:03] <ardchoille> andresmh: is that a screenlet?
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight that is why we have other ubuntu channels for chat..
[15:03] <zabbadapp> is it possible to rollback an update? I'm sure the latest v4l update broke the IR-receiver ... :-(
[15:03] <IdleOne> ksbalaji, use sudo
[15:03] <atb101010> jack: error keeps repeating
[15:03] <DasEi> !sudo | ksbalaji
[15:03] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; i didnt get u??
[15:03] <andresmh> no ardchoille, it's what pops up when i press the volume up/down button on my laptop
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> atb101010 Is this a dell or hp computer?
[15:04] <ksbalaji> IdleOne, I know I can use sudo. But how to get that privilege for myself?
[15:04] <webas> hi.. :) how to install same files in another pc..that i got from Aptitude install -d ? im not good at linux so i want a simple way ;\
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight Simply put, please dont do that in here
[15:04] <atb101010> jack_Sparrow: building my own system from scratch
[15:04] <IdleOne> ksbalaji, sudo is how you get the priv.
[15:04] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: i had the same problem. it's a bug in the kernel version the installer uses
[15:04] <ardchoille> andresmh: Hmm.. I don't know about that icon, but I know the volume icon in the panel changes with the icon theme: http://ardchoille.nfshost.com/temp/scr-20081209.png
[15:04] <IdleOne> !clone > webas
[15:05] <atb101010> gigabyte ga-ex58 mobo, corei7 920
[15:05] <ardchoille> andresmh: Try asking in the Mac4Lin thread I posted to you earlier
[15:05] <DasEi>  ksbalaji : you could change it, but I'd prefer it  sudo (safer)
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> atb101010 there are many command line modifiers that may help...
[15:05] <Buzzzz> Tefx: what will happen if you try to remove dtc-commin?
[15:05] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; ha...u still understand what I was saying or that I didnt get wat u r saying.......i just wanted 2 get feedback and know what improvements i could do...
[15:05] <gaelfx1> Jack_Sparrow: Buzzzz: I tried autoclean, but still the same error, always, any other ideas about how to fix?
[15:05] <Buzzzz> Tefx: what will happen if you try to remove dtc-common?
[15:05] <webas> aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic'  idleone this command doesnt work :|
[15:05] <a_n_d_r_e> !ubotu xvidcap
[15:05] <ksbalaji> IdleOne, the problem is, when I use sudo to mount, the files inside iso mounted folder are not easily accessible for my use.
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight and I told you NOT to do it in here..
[15:05] <a_n_d_r_e> !xvidcap
[15:05] <a_n_d_r_e> !recordmydesktop
[15:05] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; ok tell me where i can do it
[15:05] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: what was teh problem again :) ?
[15:05] <a_n_d_r_e> !anything
[15:05] <RatPackSopra> guys I've heard that my loss of my dvd drive might have something to do with me using the 64bit version. If I decide to use the 32 bit version and I'm using wubi will I pretty much be starting from zero? I hate to think that all the tweaks I've done will be lost.
[15:06] <Tefx> dtc-common isnt on anymroe
[15:06] <thiebaude1> lol
[15:06] <a_n_d_r_e> lol
[15:06] <Tefx> that got purged remove last
[15:06] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: haha, that's ok: http://pastebin.com/d9724d9b
[15:06] <ardchoille> gotta love the bot :)
[15:06] <ksbalaji> IdleOne, DasEi I find permissions problem after using sudo to mount.
[15:06] <churl> this is probably an easy fix, xfmedia player wont play audio/video, audacious wont play audio, but totem is working fine.
[15:06] <nitrofurano> hi! do someone has experience on drawing random wallpapers with a script (from sdlBasic, Shoebot, etc.), and using cron for updating them? i'm having problems with it...
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: i had the same problem. it's a bug in the kernel version the installer uses. there is no way that i know to fix that. i tried forwards, backwards, upwards, sideways... etc. but i did manage to get ubuntu installed thanks to LjL on here!
[15:06] <TABASCO> Hi there
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight look at the other ubuntu channels and find an appropriate channel .. -server or -chat -offtopic, but even then they may say no..
[15:07] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: you are using sudo rigt?
[15:07] <a_n_d_r_e> WASSSSSUPPP!!!!
[15:07] <RatPackSopra> what string line command will bring my dvd back to life?
[15:07] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: yep, I learned that one a long time ago :D
[15:07] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: can you give me some tips?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Buzzzz note that he is logged in as root when he does that
[15:07] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; thanq
[15:07] <ksbalaji> IdleOne, DasEi for example, Totem says I cannot open a certain file - you do not have permissions! it says.
[15:07] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:change permission of folder it's to,   see man chown or man chmod
[15:07] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: do you have a usb memory stick?
[15:08] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: i might
[15:08] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:is it your cdrom ?
[15:08] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332671
[15:08] <ksbalaji> DasEi, it is a iso image file of a DVD movie.
[15:08] <TABASCO> I have an Inspiron 1525n with and a HP Color LaserJet with network and memory card slot. It is possible to access the memory card via cifs through the network. On a Kubuntu 8.10 this works fine, but the Ubuntu 8.10 I'm on here causes some problems: I can mount the memory card via nautilus but when I open an image, Eye of Gnome tells me "Invalid Argument". And then the card is no longer accessible as soon as I haven't remountet it..
[15:08] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:where did you mount it ?
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> atb101010 here are some of the modifiers.. noapic acpi=off, pci=irqroute, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, vga=791, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, ide=nodma, nomce, pnpbios=off, xdrvr=vesa, res=800x600, apm=off,pci=noapci, nolapic, all_generic_ide, nolapic, pci=assign-busses, pci=irqpoll, pci=biosirq, pnpbios=off, hpet=disable, xmodule=vesa, vga=normal, vga=771, pci=irqroute, framebuffer=false, pci=nomsi
[15:09] <Kamar> quit
[15:09] <nitrofurano> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=gnome-schedule-users&max_rows=25&style=ultimate&viewmonth=200812&viewday=13
[15:09] <ksbalaji> DasEi, I mounted it on a directory under my home folder. Still I have problem using sudo.
[15:09] <TABASCO> When I mount it with the mount command it works fine, but I don't want to mount it always again. Nautilus mounts it via gvfs.
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> nitrofurano Please dont post a link without a description
[15:10] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:sudo chown ksbalaji /path/mounted                   , assuming username and path (gotta change it according to your environment)
[15:10] <sancho21> I have one partition of windows named c:. I want to install Ubuntu, can I let LiveUbuntu partitioner create a new other partition for Ubuntu from that c: partition?
[15:10] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: you'll need it, and you'll have to use a utility called  unetbootin   it will write the installer onto the usb memory stick, and then make the stick 'bootable'. you will then need to figure out how to set your BIOS to boot from the usb stick
[15:10] <sancho21> Is it safe?
[15:10] <timoma> hello
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sancho21 defrag your windows drive... twice.. first
[15:10] <nitrofurano> sorry - it's about a doubt i'm having with cron and generative wallpapers - http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=gnome-schedule-users&max_rows=25&style=ultimate&viewmonth=200812&viewday=13
[15:11] <DasEi> sancho21: how much free space is on c?
[15:11] <sancho21> 70G
[15:11] <churl> help please :) this is probably an easy fix, xfmedia player wont play audio/video, audacious wont play audio, but totem is working fine. im guessing i deleted something i needed, maybe part of xmms?
[15:11] <DasEi> sancho21: defrag, then rezise, quite safe
[15:11] <ksbalaji> DasEi, thanks. But how to have privilege of using mount for myself please?
[15:11] <Soliloquial> I have both gnome and kde installed, and for some reason, kde is using gnome window decorations (usingn gtk-window-decorator). What gives?
[15:11] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: or this http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/51937-aptitude-problem-problem-mergelist.html. thou it sounds abit dangerous to try
[15:11] <horstle> hi
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> sancho21 I still prefer partition magin for editing ntfs partitions
[15:11] <atb101010> onetinesoldier: thanks will look into that...
[15:12] <sancho21> Jack_Sparrow, what do u mean?
[15:12] <sancho21> partition magic?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sancho21 I still prefer partition magic for editing/shrinking windows-ntfs partitions
[15:12] <sancho21> I don't have one
[15:12] <sancho21> DasEi, resize using Ubuntu partitioner during Ubuntu installation?
[15:12] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: looking into it, thanks for the help with your googlefu
[15:12] <RatPackSopra> uh about my DVD issue ...I can reboot and the drive will open and close, but as soon as I try to run a disk in it, it goes black and will not even open. I'm using the 64bit version of 8.10 and I read a thread that says it might have something to do with my 64bit version. I'm pretty sure there is a string line command that can "speak" to my dvd drive, but I'm do not know what it mght be. Could someone give a few things to try???
[15:12] <atb101010> onetinesoldier: btw is there a way to reformat my hard drives from the bios and start from scratch all over again
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: you're welcome
[15:13] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:I don't ge you , you want to mount as normal user ? I can't recommend - would have to add user to group mount
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: hmmm, i don't think so, not that i know of.
[15:13] <timoma> I have a Vista partition with music, now I could play from there with totem and Rhytmbox but now I can't anymore :s, it loads the playlist, loads the file, but doens't play, Audacity says when I try to play something there there is a 'error loading sound device, check the output-settings of the device', the sound when I login works fine, youtube etc works fine too, I've fucked up something but what?
[15:14] <zabbadapp> how t.f. do I make a user on the local machine able to shut it down when multiple users are logged in, without giving a password??
[15:14] <RatPackSopra> language man please
[15:14] <DasEi> sancho21: when running installer, it will suggest that, or could also use gparted from live cd
[15:14] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: ok. if you solve it please send a mess.
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sancho21 the ubuntu installer is excellent, but there is no accounting for what problems may already be on your windows partition,  So have a backup of anything you cannot afford to lose
[15:14] <dmiglar> hello#
[15:14] <sancho21> Thanks
[15:15] <IdleOne> !language > timoma
[15:15] <Jordan_U> zabbadapp: If the user is logged in via GDM they can do it by default
[15:15] <recon69> ﻿onetinsoldier: you can change partitions from bios , you should use a boot disk of some sort
[15:15] <ksbalaji> DasEi, thanks for the group mount - advise. I shall use it cautiously.
[15:15] <recon69> ﻿onetinsoldier: soory that should read cant
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> zabbadapp Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. we dont accept it of our users.. Please keep the room family friendly
[15:15] <timoma> sorry IdleOne
[15:15] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:why don't you simply mount with sudo ?
[15:16] <nspyr> hello
[15:16] <timoma> anyone?
[15:17] <Buzzzz> timoma: the partition is mounted?
[15:17] <RatPackSopra> anyone, anyone?
[15:17] <timoma> yeah
[15:17] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: well, you were right about it seeming dangerous, but rm-ing the lists did the trick
[15:17] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: I think the problem is that things never download properly in China
[15:17] <Buzzzz> gaelfx1: cool :)
[15:17] <gaelfx1> Buzzzz: thanks much man!
[15:17] <ksbalaji> DasEi, as i said, I have problems using the files inside mounted image folders - permission problem every time. I thought it would be better to have the privilege to use mount. Now I think of using chown,chmod. Thanks.
[15:18] <zabbadapp> Jordan_U: sorry, well the user "htpc" is logged in automatically via GDM and has the default group "mythtv". I have added it in the policy to be able to turn off with multiple users. Still get the passwd window if a second user is logged in via NX.
[15:18] <Buzzzz> timoma: can you play any mp3s?
[15:18] <DasEi> ﻿ksbalaji:if this are permanent mounts, think of taking them in fstab and then allow user access by default
[15:18] <nspyr> should ubuntu see a windows home edition partition?
[15:18] <RatPackSopra> If there is a different channel that might be better suited to help me with my CD/DVD issue I'll gladly try it, but I don't where to go. I asked about his issue last night and never got a response and I really need some help.
[15:18] <zabbadapp> Jordan_U: (but it does work if none is logged in via NX)
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ksbalaji What about setting the mask in fstab for those mounted partitons
[15:19] <DasEi> nspyr: yes
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> RatPackSopra #alsa is good for sound
[15:19] <BoogieBoo> Hellow
[15:19] <RatPackSopra> Jack_Sparrow, THANK YOU
[15:19] <nspyr> DasEi: just automatically?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:19] <timoma> Buzzzz, no
[15:19] <phuz> I a directory on a server that i want to move to another server, i hear rsync is good for this.  I'm not quite sure how to use it though, whats the best way to copy a few thousand files quickly?
[15:20] <timoma> even when I put a cd in my drive it shows the songs, but isn't able to play them
[15:20] <BoogieBoo> I have problems trying to install themes. All the packets I download are rejected "No valid theme", also when I try to open them with Fileroller I get an error "NULL", all are gz format. Please any idea????
[15:20] <DasEi> nspyr: if they are not listed in fstab, they won't automount, in terminal do : sudo fdisk -l             to list all partis
[15:20] <zabbadapp> Jordan_U: (I should also say that I have no experience with the policy editor what so ever)
[15:20] <DasEi> nspyr: graphically you could watch em with gparted
[15:21] <BoogieBoo> Should I install something else in order for fileroller to understand GZIP files or what???
[15:21] <nspyr> DasEi: well i want to do it from live
[15:21] <Buzzzz> timoma: what is the result of apt-cache search gstreamer ?
[15:21] <nspyr> is the desktop cd also a live cd?
[15:21] <DasEi> nspyr: same
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> BoogieBoo usually you drag and drop the tar onto the theme manager window
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> nspyr yes
[15:21] <ubuntu008> nspyr: yes
[15:21] <DasEi> nspyr: standard installer, yes, live cd
[15:21] <Buzzzz> timoma: you still have the bad and ugly plugins?
[15:22] <nspyr> thats good
[15:22] <BoogieBoo> Jack_Sparrow, that's I thought, so far I tryied 16 pakets and I get the same results
[15:22] <timoma> I think so, never downloaded plugins except for some proposed ones (for windows formats)
[15:22] <nspyr> you think ubuntu is better for seniors?
[15:22] <DasEi> umm ?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> BoogieBoo ou said ou were tring to unpack them?
[15:22] <ubuntu008> nspyr: yes
[15:22] <timoma> oh Buzzzz  wait ^^
[15:22] <nspyr> hehe i think so too
[15:22] <ab-k2> HI
[15:23] <xylog> when my Lenoveo T60p laptop comes out of suspend the screen doesnt come back on, but I can ping it on the network
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc - GStreamer documentation for plugins from the "bad" set
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
[15:23] <FloodBot1> timoma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:23] <timoma> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-doc - GStreamer documentation for plugins from the "ugly" set
[15:23] <ksbalaji> DasEi, thanks for the idea of allowing user assess - fstab. I do not know much about tinkering there however. Hi! Jack_Sparrow - nice you responded. Please tell me about setting the mask in fstab for the mountpoint - inside my home folder please.
[15:23] <BoogieBoo> Jack_Sparrow, yes, that is what I tried after the bad results from the theme administrator; so when I was trying tu unpack them I get "NULL" error
[15:23] <timoma> oeps, forgot it contained newlines
[15:23] <nspyr> ubuntu is good for seniors. someone should write an article about that
[15:23] <Tefx> is there any way to use wilde cards in the rm command
[15:23] <BoogieBoo> SO WHY Fileroller can't open GZIP files?
[15:23] <phuz> nspyr, why don't you?
[15:23] <Ximal> is there any possible way for me to have my secondary network card in my pci slot #2 to share my connection ? I'm wanting to have my cable modem to myself mostly and to share my net to my secondary card so my gf can use the net at same time as me..
[15:23] <Buzzzz> timoma: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:23] <ubuntu008> nspyr: why not you?
[15:23] <nspyr> phuz: ok :lol
[15:24] <chfwiggum> Tefx: sure try rm -R /*
[15:24] <nspyr> i shall
[15:24] <Ximal> !timoma > ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:24] <DasEi> ﻿ Ximal:easy, put in second nic...
[15:24] <chfwiggum> Tefx: better dont
[15:24] <Ximal> !ubuntu-restricted-extras > timoma
[15:24] <phuz> Tefx, Yeah, don't do that command
[15:24] <IdleOne> !op chfwiggum
[15:24] <ardchoille> Tefx: I usualy do "rm $(find . -name *,del-*)" to remove all *,del-$date files on the system
[15:24] <phuz> Beacuse that will mess your system up pretty good
[15:25] <Ximal> DasEi: ... i have a second nic in.. i just don't know how to go about making my pc into the share ... or router..
[15:25] <IdleOne> !ops | chfwiggum
[15:25] <DasEi> !ics | ﻿ Ximal
[15:25] <ab-k2> who can speak chinese?
[15:25] <chfwiggum> Tefx: im sorry, i thought it was funny:( this will kill all your data
[15:25] <ajay> hi everybody ? how to write java programs in lunix and in which soft
[15:25] <BoogieBoo> I CANT EXTRACT GZIP FILES WITH FILEROLLER
[15:25] <DasEi> ab-k2: !cn
[15:25] <DasEi> !cn
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> BoogieBoo Lose the caps..
[15:25] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, lose the caps
[15:25] <pkundu> ajay, do u need an ide
[15:26] <timoma> Buzzzz, should I reboot :$ ?
[15:26] <ajay> ya ide
[15:26] <BoogieBoo> uupss, sorry
[15:26] <ubuntu008> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:26] <ksbalaji> ajay, linux please not lunix?
[15:26] <ab-k2> thanks
[15:26] <pkundu> ajay you can use netbeans
[15:26] <Buzzzz> timoma: can try.. did the restrited thig install?
[15:26] <timoma> yeah
[15:26] <timoma> doesn't make a difference
[15:26] <ajay> netbeans for linux
[15:26] <Buzzzz> timoma: restricted
[15:26] <ajay> jr
[15:27] <ajay> ok
[15:27] <leachim6> hey, when I'm mapping global keyboard shortcuts in gconf-editor how can I map the windows key
[15:27] <lokys009> http://pastie.org/338865 any help would be appreaced
 <Windows> <Super> <Meta> ?
[15:27] <falstaff> Hi
[15:27] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, dont need to extract them usually, just drop on theme manager; alternately you can read the instructions where you got them
[15:27] <ubuntu008> falstaff: hi
[15:27] <ab-k2> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:27] <phuz> leachim6, Super is what the key is typically called in Linux systems
[15:27] <Ximal> !firestarter > ximal
[15:27] <phuz> So, yeah, use <Super> instead of <Windows> or anything like that
[15:27] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, droping them I get an invalid theme error, and I tried so far 15
[15:27] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, these are 3rd party themes, and not all of them work. Use at your own discretion
[15:28] <Buzzzz> timoma: try a reboot then..
[15:28] <timoma> k
[15:28] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, but 15???
[15:28] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, complaining wont get you quicker help.
[15:28] <phuz> I still use Super as the name for the key instead of Windows, even when in Windows shops
[15:28] <pkundu> ajay, http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingNetbeansUbuntu7.04
[15:28] <phuz> I tell people "Alright, hit super pause" and they are like "what"
[15:29] <exitman> Hi, is this channel also for beginners?
[15:29] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, complaining where? I just said I tried so far 15 diferents packets from ubuntu-themes.org and neither of them worked; SO it seems I got a probeme here
[15:29] <jrib> exitman: of course, everyone is welcomed
[15:29] <IdleOne> exitman, yes it is
[15:29] <exitman> thx
[15:29] <phuz> exitman, it's a channel for users of all experience levels
[15:29] <churl> this is probably an easy fix, xfmedia player wont play audio/video, audacious wont play audio, but totem is working fine.
[15:29] <exitman> Cool.
[15:29] <churl> gotta a question?
[15:29] <phuz> Yeah, if you have a question, feel free to ask
[15:29] <phuz> And don't ask to ask, just ask.
[15:29] <lokys009> http://pastie.org/338865 any help would be appreaced
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> BoogieBoo No, it is a problem of people not kowing what themes to pick and themes that are poorly writeen and often incomplete .. Most show a screenshot that is nothing like what ou will get
[15:30] <IdleOne> exitman, few rules to follow. Watch your language, be polite and patient, try to help others if you can
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> lokys009 Please dont post a link without a description of the problem
[15:30] <leachim6> yeah, it's <Super> thanks
[15:30] <BoogieBoo> Jack_Sparrow, I agree with you about that, but even that I cant open the gzip files either!!!
[15:30] <lokys009> http://pastie.org/338865 i cant download and install mysql
[15:31] <phuz> lokys009, Please paste your /etc/apt/source.list so we can take a look at that
[15:31] <phuz> sources.list rather
[15:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp > lokys009
[15:31] <exitman> I have a major problem. I have an old IDE harddisk, 80 GB in size which is connected via an IDE-USB adapter to my usb port: fdisk -l tells me: /dev/sdd1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux
[15:31] <Buzzzz> churl: installed sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[15:31] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, honey catches more flies than vinegar
[15:31] <BoogieBoo> Jack_Sparrow, that's why I asked the fileroller issue
[15:31] <zabbadapp> Is it possible to roll back an update? I think the last v4l update broke my T-500 dvb IR-receiver (because it works if I boot the 8.10 iso from usb, "try-before-you-install"-style).
[15:31] <churl> Buzzzz: thanks for the responce!
[15:32] <BoogieBoo> bazhang, what???
[15:32] <Buzzzz> timoma: worked?
[15:32] <timoma> Buzzzz, thanks! it works!
[15:32] <exitman> I am not sure whether I encrypted that drive with truecrypt or not.
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> BoogieBoo But ou clouded the question by bringing up themes not working...  run fileroller from cli and look for an error
[15:32] <Buzzzz> timoma: mp3s and such are starnge some times
[15:32] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, we are volunteers. no need for the ???? multiple question marks and exclamation points.
[15:32] <churl> Buzzzz: i didnt have that installed, what's the story on it?
[15:32] <lokys009> phuz my sources.list http://pastie.org/338872
[15:32] <Buzzzz> timoma: one shouldnt need to rebbot
[15:32] <exitman> I can not mount that drive. What can I do?
[15:32] <churl> lots of libs
[15:33] <timoma> hehe, stupid licences again i guess?
[15:33] <Buzzzz> churl: it will get you mp3 and such formats
[15:33] <john47> anyone use gnome conduit?  I have a question about it
[15:33] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, many themes are poorly written and you need to follow the instructions where they come from
[15:33] <churl> Buzzzz: is that something i should have already had installed?
[15:33] <timoma> maybe totem etc didn't shutdown properly before I loaded them again, but whatever, it works now, thats most important
[15:33] <bazhang> BoogieBoo, more than 15, likely 150 are not well written.
[15:33] <ksbalaji> Jack_Sparrow, please tell me about setting the mask in fstab for the mountpoint - inside my home folder.
[15:33] <onetinsoldier> exitman: well you need to say how you are trying to mount it and what happens when you do try
[15:34] <BoogieBoo> I understood that the themes could be not well written, ok; BUT why I can't extract the gz files either?
[15:34] <Buzzzz> churl: prob no since they arent installed by default due to licens rectrictions
[15:34] <john47> anyone use gnome conduit?  I have a question about it, thanks.
[15:34] <claudio> guis u help me?
[15:34] <BoogieBoo> And I JUST installed a new fresh Ubuntu 8.10
[15:34] <BoogieBoo> I mean, I dind't play around with the distro yet
[15:34] <IdleOne> john47, ask your question. don't ask to ask, if someone can help they will try
[15:34] <claudio> i need help
[15:34] <churl> Buzzzz:  ahh, but xfmedia was working in the past, (playing video) and now it's not! any idea?
[15:34] <DasEi> !ask | claudio
[15:35] <claudio> yes i must go to ubuntu italy
[15:35] <Buzzzz> churl: what kind of media?
[15:35] <exitman> onetinsoldier: root@twister-desktop:~# sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdd1 /mnt/ntfs
[15:35] <exitman> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1,
[15:35] <exitman>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[15:35] <exitman>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[15:35] <exitman>        dmesg | tail  or so
[15:35] <FloodBot1> exitman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:35] <Buzzzz> churl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:35] <churl> Buzzzz: avi file
[15:35] <IdleOne> claudio, /join #ubuntu-it
[15:35] <claudio> thanks
[15:35] <IdleOne> prego
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> ksbalaji the mask will set the sers permission on the mount..    I dont even know if man mask will show anything about it..
[15:35] <john47> got it, sorry.  Earlier versions of conduit (0.3.6) allowed it to sync between evolution and google calendar.  New version doesn't list GCal as one of the data providers.  Anyone know why or how I can get it working again with evolution's calendar?
[15:36] <pkundu> exitman, it say wrong fs type
[15:36] <Buzzzz> churl: avi files could be many different formats..
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> pkundu: he got kicked
[15:36] <Buzzzz> churl: both divx and other types
[15:36] <pkundu> oh ok
[15:36] <ksbalaji> Jack_Sparrow, thanks I shall dig up man -mask etc..,
[15:36] <Inman> avi is a file type correct me if i am wrong
[15:36] <exitman> pkundu: what does that mean?
[15:37] <BoogieBoo> FUCK YOU ALL
[15:37] <IdleOne> bye
[15:37] <churl> Buzzzz: good to know, didnt fix my issue :(
[15:37] <exitman> How do I know whether I encrypted the drive or not?
[15:37] <pkundu> ur partition is not ext3
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> exitman: oh! you're back... you are specifying the wrong filesystem type with the -t option
[15:37] <exitman> ?
[15:37] <Buzzzz> churl: ok.did you install the restricted formats?
[15:37] <churl> Buzzzz: the only thing i can think is that i installed xmms and deleted it, might that mess up audicious?
[15:38] <qwerty1> hello i have a SIS Mirage3 graphic card on my packard bell laptop
[15:38] <churl> Buzzzz: yep
[15:38] <onetinsoldier> exitman: mount -t ext3   should be   mount -t ntfs
[15:38] <pkundu> exitman, the partition ur trying to mount is not ext3
[15:38] <qwerty1> i ve tried a lot but anthing worked
[15:38] <et32273> exitman: maybe  file -s /dev/sdd1   can tell you the filesystem type
[15:38] <qwerty1> what can i do
[15:38] <qwerty1> now
[15:38] <Buzzzz> churl: which gstreamer packages do you have installed
[15:38] <churl> Buzzzz: how do i check
[15:38] <ksbalaji> Usually this channel used to be polite.
[15:38] <exitman> root@twister-desktop:~# file -s /dev/sdd1
[15:38] <exitman> /dev/sdd1: data
[15:39] <recon69> ﻿Buzzzz: try the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[15:39] <qwerty1> !sis
[15:39] <john47> Gnome Conduit question, if anyone uses that: Earlier versions of conduit (0.3.6) allowed it to sync between evolution and google calendar.  New version doesn't list GCal as one of the data providers.  Anyone know why or how I can get it working again with evolution's calendar?  Thanks in advance.
[15:39] <et32273> exitman: hmm
[15:39] <churl> ksbalaji: now there's all sorts of riff raff up in here!
[15:39] <IdleOne> ksbalaji, it still is but sometimes people get frustrated and they forget about manners
[15:39] <lokys009> http://pastie.org/338865 i cant download and install mysql..i dont know how to fix this
[15:39] <onetinsoldier> ksbalaji: don't let one single bad apple ruin the whole bunch of apples here
[15:39] <qwerty1> Hello could anyone help me?
[15:39] <Buzzzz> churl: fireup synatic and search
[15:39] <exitman>  /dev/sdd1               1        9964    80035798+  83  Linux
[15:39] <churl> Buzzzz: k :)
[15:40] <et32273> exitman: partition type does not say anything
[15:40] <ardchoille> qwerty1: You need to specify your issue or you may not get an answer
[15:40] <Buzzzz> churl: or do dpkg --get-selections |grep gstreamer
[15:40] <IdleOne> john47, maybe #evolution can help
[15:41] <onetinsoldier> exitman: ok, so you partitioned and formatted it to ext3 then??
[15:41] <IdleOne> john47, perhaps not
[15:41] <john47> IdleOne: good thought, thx, I'll try
[15:41] <churl> Buzzzz: .10 libs and other stuff  |  will do
[15:41] <IdleOne> john47, it is empty
[15:41] <bushwakko> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/251730 <-- I get this bug, but the last activity on this bug is from august... this seems pretty severe as it's an LTS release
[15:41] <john47> IdleOne: oh, doh, thx.
[15:41] <qwerty1> ardchoille: My hardware is SIS Mirage3
[15:41] <Buzzzz> churl: and the bad and ugly omes?
[15:41] <Buzzzz> ones
[15:42] <john47> IdleOne: That just shows you how flawless Evolution is! lol
[15:42] <IdleOne> john47, lol
[15:42] <qwerty1> ardchoille: There is nothing written in my Xorg.conf
[15:42] <exitman> onetinsoldier: I can't remember. I used truecrypt extensively in the past. I only use one password always. But it doesn't work.
[15:42] <ardchoille> qwerty1: that is normal, the new xorg config is pretty bare
[15:42] <churl> Buzzzz: not all the packages with bad or ulgy but some
[15:42] <qwerty1> ardchoille: I can't even use VESA
[15:43] <ksbalaji> bye. Long live Ubuntu and apples (apple?)
[15:43] <Buzzzz> churl: got gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[15:43] <qwerty1> ardchoille: It will be enough for me to use VESA
[15:43] <exitman> What does: root@twister-desktop:~# file -s /dev/sdd1
[15:43] <exitman> /dev/sdd1: data
[15:43] <exitman>  tell me? That the partition is not encrypted?
[15:44] <churl> Buzzzz: yes sir
[15:44] <et32273> exitman: it just tells you that file isn't able to determine the filesystem of that partition
[15:44] <ardchoille> qwerty1: I'm actually not able to help with that
[15:44] <brokenbyzero> Anyone familliar with Ideazon's "Zboard" ?
[15:44] <exitman> et32273: So is there any way I can find out whether it is a truecrypt encrypted partition?
[15:45] <Buzzzz> churl: do you got liblame?
[15:45] <churl> Buzzzz:  one sec
[15:45] <et32273> exitman: so i guess it is encrypted, but i cannot help you with truecrypt. never used that.
[15:45] <recon69> ﻿bushwakko: that bug is marked as a duplicate , go to bug #216756
[15:45] <onetinsoldier> exitman: well, if you did the  file -s  command as et32273 said, then it doesn't show anything for the filesystem type as he said.. it should look like this...
[15:45] <bushwakko> recon69: yes, I found it eventually, but still, the damn bug there isnt fixed either
[15:45] <exitman> I don't want to format the disk and then one minute later find a piece of paper where I took a note" don't format disk western digital xzy"
[15:45] <onetinsoldier> exitman: /dev/sda8: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data (large files)
[15:46] <churl> Buzzzz: didnt find liblame in synapic
[15:46] <bushwakko> recon69: they started in april and said "trivial bug" and put medium priority on it, and didnt fix it. now im here in december and cant install gnome on my server
[15:46] <clavinova> hi..
[15:46] <Buzzzz> churl: you can try to add http://www.medibuntu.org/ repos for more media codecs
[15:46] <rammstein> hi
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> exitman: yeah, i can't help with truecrypt either.. sorry
[15:47] <clavinova> i'm newbie
[15:47] <exitman> :(
[15:47] <churl> Buzzzz: if it helps, i can play mp3's with exaile just fine
[15:47] <clavinova> please tell me more about this OS..
[15:47] <IdleOne> clavinova, www.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <Buzzzz> churl: ok. but not with audacious
[15:48] <IdleOne> clavinova, wiki.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <recon69> ﻿bushwakko: appears to be a workaround in the bug report, and it reported as fixed in intrepid , so progress is being made
[15:48] <webas> how to test if apache2 works correctly? are there any tests?
[15:48] <churl> Buzzzz: yep  i think i messed something up, hence xfmedia player not working right anymore,
[15:48] <clavinova> in indonesian?
[15:48] <clavinova> hehehe
[15:48] <clavinova> :D
[15:48] <bushwakko> recon69: should be fixed in the lts release though
[15:49] <churl> Buzzzz: i was trying out different apps for a winamp like player, so i was installing and uninstalling lots of things
[15:49] <recon69> ﻿webas: open the web page on localhost is a simple test, put your ip address in as a web address in your browser
[15:49] <IdleOne> clavinova, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndonesianTeam google is your friend :)
[15:49] <Buzzzz> churl: try this install libxine-extracodecs
[15:50] <clavinova> ok thanks for idleone..
[15:50] <ardchoille> churl: audacious is good for the winamp/xmms look, it can even use xmms skins
[15:50] <Buzzzz> churl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241527
[15:50] <gregL> webas: go into firefox and on the adress line type in localhost if it says  It works  It's good to go..
[15:50] <gregL> er address line
[15:50] <recon69> bushwakko: I agree, probably will be eventually as well.
[15:51] <webas> ah yes..
[15:51] <bushwakko> recon69: aye, still, 7 months is a little to long. anyway, I may actually just upgrade to intrepid
[15:51] <Pretto> is ok put a dns server in te same machine as firewall??
[15:52] <recon69> bushwakko: well, intrepid has it own unique bugs :)
[15:52] <bushwakko> recon69: any deal-breakeres I should know of?
[15:52] <Buzzzz> churl: got  libxine1-ffmpeg on your system?
[15:52] <churl> Buzzzz: having trouble adding http://www.medibuntu.org/ to sources
[15:52] <jpastore> does anyone here have experience with remastersys or mkisofs ?
[15:53] <Buzzzz> churl: ok patrebin your sources
[15:53] <Buzzzz> pastebin
[15:53] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[15:54] <banteng> what is the best 3d games in ubuntu?
[15:55] <churl> Buzzzz: first time paste bin'ing
[15:56] <jpastore> can someone help me out with mkisofs ?
[15:57] <nibbler> whats the problem?
[15:57] <pkundu> jpastore, wat you want to know
[15:58] <funbitz1> guys, what about a daemon tools equivalent in ubuntu?
[15:59] <ikonia> funbitz1: just mount
[15:59] <jpastore> nibbler, I took my hdd that's in my laptop, converted it to an external (totally functioning and everything is fine.) installed a 320G move my home dir to a 1tb backup and followed the instructions at: http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/capink.html but I'm at the point of making the iso and it's complaining that the boot/grub/stage2_eltorito is missing
[15:59] <churl> Buzzzz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85185/
[16:00] <J-_> How does using telepathy-haze(connection manager that uses libpurple) differ from Pidgin now? Does it make anything better than it would be using Pidgin regularly?
[16:00] <Buzzzz> churl: still running gutsy?
[16:00] <cars__> banteng: it really depends on what you like.  "best" is subjective.  what do you like to play ?
[16:00] <churl> nope :( intrepid
[16:00] <funbitz1> ikonia: thanks. is there a graphical mount tool? i'm not much of an expert...
[16:00] <churl> Buzzzz: no 8.10
[16:00] <ugeman92> #PuntoTorrent
[16:00] <Buzzzz> churl: ok try to comment out all gutsy related rows
[16:00] <ikonia> funbitz1: for what your expecting, not really (that I'm aware of)
[16:01] <jpastore> nibbler, I'm looking at the man pages and the -b option that's specifies the eltorito boot image, point to boot/grub/stage2_eltorito  is that the file in my directory cd structure or the image in my /boot/grub ?
[16:01] <ardchoille> churl: "proposed" repos are discouraged
[16:01] <ikonia> funbitz1: I know thats not what your looking for
[16:01] <Buzzzz> churl: and do an apt-get update
[16:01] <churl> Buzzzz: k
[16:01] <nibbler> jpastore: no idea
[16:01] <veloc1ty> funbitz1, there is gmountiso
[16:01] <allsystemsarego> funbitz1, Gmount-iso
[16:01] <veloc1ty> :)
[16:01] <jpastore> pkundu, sorry did you need me to direct those questions at you too? I know things go by quick on here =)
[16:02] <jpastore> nibbler, k thanks anyways
[16:02] <Buzzzz> churl: you should prob remove the proposed ones too
[16:02] <cars__> funbitz1, there is also a tray applet for GNOME that assists in mounting, as well
[16:02] <churl> Buzzzz: so just add a "#" ?
[16:03] <Buzzzz> churl: yes
[16:03] <funbitz1> velic1ty, allsystemsarego:  ok, the exact command line: Gmound-iso "xxx.iso" ?
[16:04] <funbitz1> cars_: how do i find that?
[16:04] <ruadh> Hi all.
[16:04] <allsystemsarego> funbitz1, it's a GUI app
[16:04] <funbitz1> aaaa
[16:04] <funbitz1> sorry
[16:04] <level15> hi. i have a creative zen 16 GB. When plugged in, lsusb reports it as  041e:4157. But gnomad, kzenexplorer and amarok fail to see it. Any clues on what might be missing?
[16:04] <allsystemsarego> funbitz1, apt-get install Gmount-iso
[16:05] <ruadh> How does one open xchat-2.8.0.tar.bz2 file?
[16:05] <ikonia> ruadh: it's a compressed archive
[16:05] <idejmcd> how can i listen to DRM files in ubuntu?
[16:05] <allsystemsarego> funbitz1, apt-get install gmountiso
[16:05] <ikonia> ruadh: if you don't know how to open it you shouldn't be trying to build it
[16:05] <onetinsoldier> ruadh: there some gui apps to open it, such a file-roller
[16:05] <ikonia> idejmcd: drm is locked to a device
[16:05] <hololight> I have a possible bug associated with the 'fast user switch' applet. should I report this to the main ubuntu bug tracker or try to find a bug tracker for the applet itself?
[16:06] <idejmcd> ikonia: how do you mean?
[16:06] <onetinsoldier> ruadh: and then there is the 'tar' command for the command line
[16:06] <funbitz1> allsystemsarego: thanks a bunch :)
[16:06] <recon69> ﻿idejmcd: think the realplayer will play DRM files , but not ones you dont have access to
[16:06] <ikonia> idejmcd: drm is normally locked to a device Eg: downloaded in itunes means you can only play it on your ipod/itunes on your laptop
[16:06] <cars__> funbitz1, assuming you're running gnome, the widget can be found by right clicking the top panel and selecting add new widget...
[16:06] <ardchoille> hololight: are you using GlobalMenu?
[16:07] <ttwhy> Hi, does someone know why Eclipse 3.4 dont make it into ubuntu? and is there any DEB way to intall the 3.4 version
[16:07] <idejmcd> ikonia: i download audiobooks from audible.com, they come protected with DRM that can be playedin windows media or  itunes.  i know there's a way to strip the DRM but
[16:07] <brokenbyzero> Quick question, I have a port open in my router, and it says it's open when on windows..but on ubuntu it says it's closed.  Any ideas?
[16:07] <Tefx> php dosent seem to rlelise somthign its tryign to use is no longer in system and the program im tryign to isntall nwo isnt pullign the dpendancie how can i work around this
[16:07] <cars__> funbitz1, from there, select disk mounter and click add to panel
[16:07] <ikonia> idejmcd: depends what the drm software is if you can play it in ubuntu
[16:07] <churl> Buzzzz: updated!
[16:07] <allsystemsarego> idejmcd, try opening them in audacity
[16:07] <hololight> ardchoille: no
[16:07] <ikonia> idejmcd: I'm not aware of the site you got them from so don't know
[16:07] <ruadh> onetinsoldeier: How do I use the 'tar' command ?
[16:07] <Buzzzz> churl: nice.. any difference?
[16:08] <ikonia> idejmcd: but seeing as linux / open source isn't really into the spirit of drm , I doubt it will be built into many apps
[16:08] <allsystemsarego> idejmcd, those are .wav files renamed to a different extension
[16:08] <ardchoille> ruadh: man tar
[16:08] <ikonia> ruadh: man tar - but you shouldn't be trying to build xchat from source if you don't know how to untar the package
[16:08] <ikonia> ruadh: you'll cause more damage
[16:08] <oskar-> brokenbyzero:  what do you understand under an open port in a router? is it a nat-router and do you have a port forwarding?
[16:08] <ruadh> ok
[16:08] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: you should read a guide about it on the internet.. but i will tell you a little about it. ok?
[16:08] <churl> Buzzzz:  still havnt added medibuntu the update didnt download anything  (the source.list only needed 3 cases commented out)
[16:08] <ikonia> onetinsoldier: a guide about what ?
[16:09] <Tefx> in aptitude hwo can ir equest it reinstall a program
[16:09] <funbitz1> cars_: I'm running the default ubuntu 8.10. right-clicking the top panel doesnt show me "add new widget", only add to panel, etc...
[16:09] <brokenbyzero> I have port forwarding set up correctly, the problem seems to be isolated in Ubuntu.
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> oops... wrong nick.. sorry ikonia
[16:09] <ruadh> thanks all :)
[16:09] <banteng> what is the best 3d games in ubuntu?
[16:09] <ikonia> onetinsoldier: no problem
[16:09] <Buzzzz> churl: ah ok
[16:09] <exitman> does anybody know whether there is a truecrypt chat channel?
[16:09] <cars__> funbitz1, sorry, it's add to panel
[16:09] <allsystemsarego> brokenbyzero, netstat -antp
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> ruadh: you should read a guide about it on the internet.. but i will tell you a little about it. ok?
[16:09] <churl> Buzzzz: video is working in xfmedia now!
[16:09] <allsystemsarego> brokenbyzero, will show you which app has opened which port
[16:10] <recon69> ﻿brokenbyzero: well ubuntu does have a default firewall with alll ports closed, that will stop portforwarding from working on that machine
[16:10] <Buzzzz> churl: happiness :)
[16:10] <urz> hello.  I have poor vision and am curious about gnome-mag.  I don't use gnome though.  Is it much usable with something like ratpoison?
[16:10] <Tefx> arg there a monumental co*k up happenign with php can any one give me a hand
[16:10] <LilEndian> join #windows
[16:10] <allsystemsarego> urz, compiz has a desktop magnifier
[16:11] <hololight> ardchoille: for kicks, ill throw out the bug here.... when pidgin is running there is no problem, but if pidgin is not running, all the options except logout are missing... (no restart, shutdown, hibernate, etc)
[16:11] <urz> compiz?
[16:11] <SeanTater> Is it possible to have both standard and adhoc mode VAP's running in madwifi?
[16:11] <churl> Buzzzz: audio is wokring in xfmedia too!  where was the issue?
[16:11] <allsystemsarego> urz, compiz is a component in Ubuntu
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: ok,,now i feel i should say something.. now, how is he going to learn to unpack and compile stuff? i learned the same way he is wanting to here.. i came on irc and someone helped me, in the channel for my nix distro
[16:11] <ardchoille> hololight: I've not used pidgin, can't comment :(
[16:11] <Buzzzz> churl: dunno.. maybe libxine thingy
[16:11] <churl> Buzzzz: still no luck with audacious
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: and now he left!! :-(
[16:12] <a-9> I have a notebook with sis graphics chipset. However, if I use sis in section Driver (xorg.conf) gnome does not even let X stay up. With vesa it works, but I can't get 1280x1024 resolution. When I try to watch videos they look terrible as well. A
[16:12] <a-9> Any idea ?
[16:12] <hololight> ardchoille: but that is what is odd.... if a program is not running, it wont work.... if it is.... then it works..... it is completely backwards
[16:12] <Buzzzz> churl: strange
[16:13] <ardchoille> churl: I believe installing ubuntu-restricted-extras is what helped me get things going as far as media players
[16:13] <webas> i think my sound doesnt work.. any help how to check if everything is fine?  At KMIX i turned all to max..and no mute...
[16:13] <gnusar> does anyone know where the keyboard presettings (Germany, Turkey, Finland... :P) are locatet and whether they are easy to manipulate? or is there an easy way to set single keys manually?
[16:13] <mG> ex-chat
[16:13] <urz> so you recomend compiz for magnifying with ratpoison?
[16:13] <exitman> Does anybody know if there is a truecrypt irc channel?
[16:13] <cars__> funbitz1, but the applet is very useful.  I use it all the time.  It is actually one of the reasons I use GNOME over another WM
[16:13] <ikonia> !channels > exitman
[16:13] <ardchoille> exitman: I searched, didn't see one
[16:14] <cars__> webas: do you have digital or analog speakers?
[16:14] <churl> Buzzzz: thank you so much for the help!!
[16:14] <churl> ardchoille: thank you too !
[16:14] <crispy--> Can anyone help me with this problem I posted on ubuntuforums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6367216
[16:14] <Buzzzz> churl: got audacious to work now?
[16:14] <churl> Buzzzz: nope
[16:14] <ardchoille> churl: yw :)
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: hello? did you see my question?
[16:14] <webas> its notebook x51l cars__
[16:15] <ikonia> onetinsoldier: look at your private messages as it's not appropriate for this channel
[16:15] <funbitz1> cars_: I just found out that right-clicking the disk image in krusader, and the Open with..., then Archive mounter, mounts it without any hassle
[16:16] <ikonia> funbitz1: thats handy to know
[16:16] <Buzzzz> churl: got these installed libavformat52 and libavcodec51?
[16:16] <oskar-> gnusar:  add a keyboard indicator plugin to your panel and configure it...
[16:17] <churl> Buzzzz: yep got them both
[16:17] <exitman> no truecrypt channel on this server. on other ones maybe?
[16:17] <Buzzzz> churl: and win32codes?
[16:17] <cars__> funbitz1, oh, I missed the part about it being an .iso.  Glad to know you got it working
[16:17] <mG> ex-chat
[16:17] <DasEi> exitman:may I pm you ?
[16:18] <exitman> DasEi: sure
[16:18] <churl> Buzzzz:  what repo is that in?
[16:18] <Buzzzz> churl: mediabuntu
[16:19] <funbitz1> It seems that bin/cue disk images don't work like that though......
[16:19] <gnusar> oskar-: yeah i can quick change with that indicator between settings.. but i want to change some single keys on my board (i need the { } braces a lot, on german setting it is horrible)
[16:19] <Buzzzz> churl: audacious seems to use libmad for mp3 playing
[16:20] <olskolirc> hey guys did you guys ever see on tv how linux ppl so called h* satellites which is legal and watch these networks like larry king live behind the scenes getting ready for their show?
[16:20] <lordblaa> hey guys - this is a pretty weird problem - not even sure if its linux-related but hoping someone has seen it before - i have 3 external usb disks, when i boot with any of them plugged in, i get all kinds of buffer errors on -one- of them and its unreadable until i unplug and replug it.. happens in win and lin.. mobo? usb controller? bios? etc? any ideas?
[16:20] <olskolirc> that's what I want to learn
[16:20] <olskolirc> amuse myself
[16:20] <oskar-> gnusar:  maybe this helps: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Xmodmap
[16:21] <gnusar> oskar-: thanks for your help, i'll have a look at it
[16:22] <hololight> lordblaa: I have had that problem before.... I think it turned out to be a bad USB controller
[16:22] <bonhoffer> is it possible to resize my ubuntu partition (i share the drive with xp)
[16:22] <churl> Buzzzz: is it medibuntu? not mediabuntu?
[16:22] <TwoD> I'm looking for a library I can use to view/extract .rar archives. Or possibly info on how to call unrar from C code. Looked at unrarlib but I think I need support for v3 of .rar.
[16:22] <lordblaa> hololight - hardware fault?
[16:22] <Buzzzz> churl: media just mo spelling
[16:22] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | churl
[16:22] <hololight> lordblaa: aye
[16:23] <lordblaa> hmm
[16:23] <TwoD> bonhoffer, I think you can atleast enlarge it, but not with it mounted, so I'd do it from a LiveCD.
[16:23] <lordblaa> hololight, not too hot on my hardware - is a usb controller built into the mobo or...?
[16:23] <hololight> lordblaa: depends... but almost always these days
[16:23] <Buzzzz> churl: my bad again :)
[16:23] <TwoD> lordblaa, if you have usb ports on your mobo, then yes.
[16:24] <lordblaa> hololight, oh dear - so i need a new motherboard?
[16:24] <hololight> lordblaa: have you you tried a different drive?
[16:24] <oskar-> bonhoffer:  yes, you can shrink and enlarge it. i think gparted can do it, while booted from live cd. but read further documentation and make a backup before
[16:24] <lordblaa> this is with three drives - if any of them are plugged in, it chooses one to do it to
[16:24] <hololight> lordblaa: know your way around a bios menu?
[16:24] <lordblaa> seems to be consistantly the highest drive alphabetically in linux i.e. if there's sdb and c it'll be d, if only b and c it'l be c
[16:24] <lordblaa> hololight sure
[16:24] <NicEXE> I need a C++ compiler... Which to you suggest?
[16:24] <R0b0t1> How do I get a text file of all installed packages so that I may install them later?
[16:25] <lordblaa> already tried disabling legacy USB support with no luck :(
[16:25] <bonhoffer> got it -- so live cd is probably the way to go
[16:25] <hischild> NicEXE, loads available, default is GCC iirc
[16:25] <recon69> ﻿NicEXE: gcc
[16:25] <oskar-> NicEXE:  g++
[16:25] <hololight> lordblaa: hrmm
[16:25] <hischild> !compile | NicEXE
[16:25] <riddlebox> what can I use to put a livecd to a thumbdrive?
[16:25] <lordblaa> this is seriously lame - i bought this computer 2 days ago
[16:25] <hischild> riddlebox, check unetbootin
[16:25] <hololight> lordblaa: warranty?
[16:26] <lordblaa> they said 'now you be careful, if you open the case you void the warantee' 'yeah yeah' *got home, open case, put in old hard drive, transfer files...*
[16:26] <NicEXE> how can I compile something that I code with gcc?
[16:26] <R0b0t1> How do I get a text file of all installed packages so that I may install them later?
[16:26] <hololight> lordblaa: but in this case you would have an argument, nothing you could have done could cause this problem.....
[16:26] <recon69> ﻿lordblaa: if it a hardware problem you got a warranty no matter what they tell you, check out your rights
[16:26] <oskar-> NicEXE:  you code with an editor, you compile with a compiler from the gnu compiler collection (gcc)
[16:27] <et32273> R0b0t1: dpkg --get-selections
[16:27] <TwoD> NicEXE, you don't code it with gcc, you use a text editor or IDE like Eclipse or Code::Blocks, then you run it through gcc to compile it.
[16:27] <lordblaa> i think i'll just have to live with it - would have to delete all my files etc give the whole computer back
[16:27] <oskar-> NicEXE:  vi testprog.c; gcc -o testprog testprog.c; ./testprog
[16:27] <hololight> lordblaa: did you try a different combination of which drives were plugged into which ports? most mobo's use two different 'internal hubs'.... so certain ports are on one, and the rest on the other....
[16:28] <NicEXE> oskar-, TwoD: no, what I mean is that I have my code ready in a text file (cpp format) how can I compile it?
[16:28] <Ximal> i installed firestarter... unfortunately it's telling me that eth0 which is my OPEN nic card that i hooked up my gf's laptop too is not working or not setup or something yet when i check my network cards via the little pc dual window top right corner of my desktop bar i am able to see it in the list... anyone think they could help me get this working ?
[16:28] <churl> Buzzzz: what's the syntax for adding it to intrepid? there isnt a listing for it at medibuntu.org
[16:28] <recon69> ﻿lordblaa: and anyway , how the hell they going to know you opened the box
[16:28] <hischild> recon69, a seal perhaps?
[16:28] <hololight> recon69: Prolly a void sticker
[16:28] <TwoD> NicEXE, check out oskar's post after the ;
[16:28] <lordblaa> hololight, that sounds good - i'm up for trying anything that might work - so swap the plugs to different sockets?
[16:28] <hololight> lordblaa: yeah
[16:28] <lordblaa> recon69, unfort i snipped one of the cable ties
[16:28] <oskar-> NicEXE:  g++ -o progfile file.cpp;  or use the build mechanism provided (very recommended)
[16:28] <Buzzzz> churl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85196/
[16:29] <recon69> ﻿lordblaa: you think anyone will notice that
[16:29] <hololight> lordblaa: if the only thing was a tie, you can pick those up from like a walmart for a couple bucks
[16:29] <GNUcious> hello ppl...
[16:29] <NicEXE> oskar-: how to use the build mechanism?
[16:29] <lordblaa> yeah was thinking about it
[16:29] <n8tuser> Ximal-> can you elaborate on your network layout please? what is connected to what? and where are the firewalls?
[16:29] <GNUcious> can anyone help with ispcp omega?..
[16:29] <goog> Hey People! I have been trying for some time now to get my external monitor to work with ubuntu 8.04. It just displays nothing and i cannot turn it on. It works under windows. Any ideas? I use a fujitsu simens notebook Amilo si 1520.
[16:29] <lordblaa> but don't really want to give it back and be told in two weeks that i'd broken some safety seal
[16:29] <lordblaa> welll i'm just going to give this a reboot
[16:30] <lordblaa> see if that port swapping works
[16:30] <lordblaa> brb
[16:30] <oskar-> NicEXE:  read README and INSTALL. one or both of these files are normally provided in source packages
[16:30] <recon69> ﻿lordblaa: anyway check you rights, it it's a defective MB it will have a 12 month warranty anyway.
[16:30] <idejmcd> ikonia: still here? i realize that DRM isn't built into any apps, but are there any plugins? or programs i can use to strip the DRM?
[16:30] <Ximal> n8tuser: i installed the firestarter program... then i clicked on the start button after going through the wizard in the program.. shortly after that i clicked the start firewall button... during the wizard though... i tried to enable the shared internet connection
[16:30] <GNUcious> has anyone use ispcp Omega on ubuntu?...
[16:30] <idejmcd> allsystemsarego: are there any programs that I can use to strip the DRM from the audible files?
[16:30] <NicEXE> oskar-: no I wrote the code (I am learning c++ in school)
[16:30] <ardchoille> How can I find out which package /usr/bin/foo was installed from?
[16:31] <n8tuser> Ximal-> can you elaborate on your network layout please? what is connected to what? and where are the firewalls? <-- i need this info so i can get a good grasp of what you have
[16:31] <Ximal> but no matter what i do... i cannot share my connection.... i have 2 ethernet connections ... eth0 ( a pci card ) and an embedded network connection which is connected to my cable modem
[16:31] <Ximal> cable modem to embedded nic ( eth1 ) and eth0 to gf's pc
[16:31] <TwoD> ardchoille, I have a script for that somewhere, hang on
[16:31] <GeoMus> hello
[16:31] <GeoMus> I couldn't save iptables rules IO have this issue : Saving firewall rules to /etc/sysconfig/iptables:          [FAILED] ??
[16:31] <GNUcious> can anyone please help me with a very little problem regarding ispcp omega?..
[16:31] <PriceChild> ardchoille: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:31] <n8tuser> !who | Ximal
[16:32] <Buzzzz> NiceEXE g++ filenamne?
[16:32] <Ximal> n8tuser:  sorry about that..
[16:32] <n8tuser> Ximal-> that dual nic host is able to access the internet?
[16:32] <ardchoille> PriceChild: her internet connection is down due to weather
[16:32] <NicEXE> Buzzzz: what do you mean?
[16:32] <goog> is there a command to "reconfigure X" or whatever it is these days to bring stuff on the screen...?
[16:33] <Ximal> n8tuser: yes ... i am using my internal embedded nic connection to connect through the interweb via my cable modem
[16:33] <oskar-> NicEXE:  ok, then manually as i told you. you may need additional parameters "-I" for additional header file directories and "-L" for library directories
[16:33] <Buzzzz> niceExe do you got gcc and g++ installed?
[16:33] <churl> Buzzzz: failed update "gpg error" couldnt be verified because the public key is not available ?
[16:33] <NicEXE> oskar-: thanx
[16:33] <n8tuser> Ximal-> ok, now does the laptop have an ip address assigned?  what is the ip address?  also whats the ip address of that eth0 on host?
[16:33] <Buzzzz> churl: starnge
[16:33] <n8tuser> Ximal-> ok, now does the laptop have an ip address assigned?  what is the ip address?  also whats the ip address of that eth0 on your* host?
[16:34] <PriceChild> ardchoille: I 'think', dpkg -S
[16:34] <recon69> ﻿Ximal: ever consider buying a router and saving yourself doing a course in setting up software routers. you can do what you want if you willing ot put the work in, first thing, the cable you connecting between the two computers , is it a crossover cable or a normal network patch cable?
[16:34] <NicEXE> Buzzzz: g++ comes with ubuntu by default
[16:34] <PriceChild> ardchoille: maybe not
[16:34] <banisterfiend> im trying to execute the command 'fg' (to bring a process out of background) at a certain time using at. to test i did at -f c.sh 5:31   and that time passed, and nothing happened, wtf?
[16:34] <ardchoille> PriceChild: That's it, thank you :)
[16:35] <Ximal> n8tuser: i actually am hooking my shared eth0 to my old router ... i want this pc to be able to use the bandwidth it needs... unfortunately my cable modem is a wireless dual router ... and the wireless is broken on it ... thus i'm trying to share the eth0 with the dlink router
[16:35] <Guest11741> hmm, my menu bar has slipped over to the right horizontal side of my desktop, anyone know how to put it back at the top
[16:35] <Ximal> so that she can hook into  it and my dad can too
[16:35] <TwoD> ardchoille, sending you the script now. It's called WhichPKG, just put it in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and select the file(s) you want to check then right-click Script->WhichPKG
[16:35] <PriceChild> ardchoille: there is also apt-file
[16:35] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  fg only works in the same shell, afaik
[16:36] <Buzzzz> niceexe then just g++ name.cpp
[16:36] <banisterfiend> oskar-: i am in the same shell
[16:36] <webas> i think my sound doesnt work.. any help how to check if everything is fine?  when i load ubuntu i get startup music working for 1sec. then no sound..
[16:36] <ardchoille> TwoD: I can't do dcc file transfers here
[16:36] <n8tuser> Ximal-> you have seem complicated what you had explained earlier, please have a drawing of these connectivity so i can easily understand,  pictures is worth a thousand words
[16:36] <banisterfiend> oskar-: in fact i made a simple script just to say "hello" and at didn't even seem to be able to do that properly :/
[16:36] <ardchoille> PriceChild: Ah, thank you
[16:36] <Buzzzz> churl: try without key then
[16:36] <gnutron> banisterfiend: check your logs in /var/log/ i don't think 'at' works without a MTA installed, it wants to mail results to user. my guess, had the same problem.
[16:36] <Ximal> n8tuser: give me a moment... and you will see ;)
[16:36] <tgillespie> hi all, im trying to connect to my mtp phone in rhythmbox. The device comes up on the  desktop and i can mount it and view the files inside, and view the photos in fspot, but doesnt come up in rhythmbox. Anyone got any idea whats up?
[16:36] <ardchoille> TwoD: May I pm you?
[16:36] <TwoD> ardchoille, sure
[16:36] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  where is fg called?
[16:37] <banisterfiend> oskar-: in c.sh
[16:37] <banisterfiend> oskar-: inside c.sh i have the single solitary command 'fg'
[16:37] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  and that script will be called inside an own shell
[16:37] <banisterfiend> hmm ok
[16:37] <banisterfiend> well what do i do then? :D
[16:37] <et32273> banisterfiend: you cannot put "fg" in a at-script. fg works only in the same shell instance where the command is running in background.
[16:38] <banteng> i had to sleep everybody
[16:38] <banteng> cu tomorrow
[16:38] <banteng> bye
[16:38] <banisterfiend> so is there any way i can get the 'fg' command to execute after a certain time in thie shell?
[16:38] <churl> Buzzzz: where's the key located?
[16:38] <banisterfiend> i am watching a movie you see, and i've paused compilation of a program, but i want it to continue compiling after 2 hours or so
[16:38] <Buzzzz> churl: should be on their server
[16:39] <ikonia> banisterfiend how did you pause it ?
[16:39] <banisterfiend> ikonia: control-z
[16:39] <ikonia> banisterfiend: just fg it when your ready
[16:39] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: sleep 10; fg   ;-)
[16:39] <banisterfiend> ikonia: but im not going to be at my computer!!!
[16:39] <et32273> banisterfiend: then simply say  sleep 2h ; fg  in that shell
[16:39] <banisterfiend> that's the point, im going to fall asleep during this movie
[16:39] <banisterfiend> ah
[16:39] <banisterfiend> awesome
[16:39] <banisterfiend> thanks :D
[16:39] <churl> Buzzzz: im not following this part
[16:39] <ikonia> banisterfiend: sleep 7200; fg
[16:40] <ikonia> et32273: ahh you can use m,h, differentiator for sleep
[16:40] <oskar-> doesn't work
[16:40] <et32273> ikonia: yeah. at least in GNU sleep.
[16:40] <banisterfiend> i can say 2h and it'll sleep two hours?
[16:40] <unop> banisterfiend, yes
[16:40] <Buzzzz> churl: ok
[16:40] <banisterfiend> that's awesome
[16:40] <banisterfiend> thanks guys
[16:40] <et32273> banisterfiend: yes. read man sleep.
[16:41] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  give the process sleeping a wakeip signal: kill -SIGCONT <pid>
[16:41] <oskar-> wakeup
[16:41] <et32273> oskar-: if he still has the shell open, fg would be easier
[16:41] <Aperculum> is there an app to easily convert video files between formats
[16:41] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  this signal can be timed with at or sleep or others
[16:41] <banisterfiend> ah cool
[16:41] <banisterfiend> but how do i get at to run a normal shell command instead of a script?
[16:42] <zsquareplusc> Aperculum: more than one.. ffmpeg, mencoder, ..
[16:42] <banisterfiend> it seems to expect a FILE paramater
[16:42] <banisterfiend> -f
[16:42] <gnutron> banisterfiend: crontab
[16:42] <banisterfiend> hehe ok
[16:42] <zsquareplusc> gnutron: or "at" as it just one time
[16:43] <Aperculum> zsquareplusc, easily meaning I don't have to crawl thru man pages
[16:43] <Aperculum> zsquareplusc, like, select file, select format, magic
[16:44] <zsquareplusc> Aperculum: there are so many, uhm, not so well deigned codecs, you probably need to read at one point.  ffmpeg is easy to use and tries to keep the quality high
[16:44] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  command & echo "kill -SIGCONT $!" | at <time>
[16:44] <banisterfiend> oh ok!
[16:44] <banisterfiend> great
[16:44] <banisterfiend> i get it :)
[16:44] <Aperculum> zsquareplusc, okay, thanks a lot
[16:44] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  i didn't test it... but it should work so or similar
[16:44] <et32273> oskar-: this will run command in background, not stopping it
[16:45] <et32273> oskar-: so the delayed SIGCONT is useless
[16:45] <alex_mayorga> !video
[16:45] <alex_mayorga> !nvidia
[16:46] <oskar-> et32273, banisterfiend:  et32273 is right... the & is useless, stopping should be done in some other way, like ctrl+z or wiith kill -SIGSTOP ...
[16:47] <banisterfiend> ok
[16:47] <banisterfiend> try this
[16:47] <banisterfiend> echo "hello" | at 5:47   (or a time 1 minute from now for you)
[16:47] <banisterfiend> it does not display 'hello' on my screen
[16:47] <banisterfiend> why is that?
[16:47] <et32273> banisterfiend: at and cron jobs never have visible output
[16:47] <alex_mayorga> what's the procedure to troubleshoot X on Intrepid?
[16:47] <oskar-> banisterfiend:  echo "echo hello" | at 5:47
[16:47] <gnutron> banisterfiend: this works too, (sleep 60; xmessage -near One Minute has gone by) &
[16:48] <nibbler> banisterfiend: at now + 1 minutes
[16:48] <et32273> banisterfiend: they must run even when the user is logged out
[16:48] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: did you get a mail? ;-) at usually delivers output as local mail
[16:48] <banisterfiend> err i wouldn't even know how to check 'localmail' hahaha
[16:48] <banisterfiend> i just use gmail ;)
[16:48] <unop> mail
[16:48] <et32273> gnutron: i doubt you can put X applications in at or cron jobs. they won't have the DISPLAY variable set.
[16:49] <gnutron> et32273: i meant just typed in any shell, i get you, thanks.
[16:49] <nibbler> et32273: of course you would have to set it, you can just prepend DISPLAY=blah to the command
[16:50] <diffred> How do I print an entire chm file as it was a book?
[16:50] <et32273> nibbler: yeah, but still no display permissions if the used is not logged in at that time
[16:50] <Guest7548> how do i put two images side by side in gimp?
[16:50] <corwin> Хай
[16:50] <corwin> Че молчим?
[16:51] <ikonia> corwin: english only please
[16:51] <et32273> !ru | corwin
[16:51] <banisterfiend> and thanks guys you were a great help :)
[16:51] <churl> you know that bug in intrepid with the network manager systray icon not appearing?  did they ever fix that?
[16:52] <goog> Back..! How do i start a terminal outside Gnome? I thought CTRL+ALT+F1 - but nothing happens when i do that.
[16:52] <zsquareplusc> goog: yes, that should switch to a text mode console
[16:52] <et32273> goog: ctrl-alt-f1 does not actually start a terminal. it switches to a already running text console.
[16:52] <Cute_Bettong> can someone help me with this? http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6751e0fc
[16:52] <hischild> goog, you can try F1 to F6.
[16:53] <Cute_Bettong> i have seen alot of errors in my 5 years of using ubuntu but nothing like this.
[16:53] <goog> zsquareplusc, et32273, hischild: strange, none of them works.
[16:53] <hischild> goog, try F7 and then go back. Sometimes F8 is also activated, giving you sort of error reporting
[16:53] <qcjn> hi, would you know of a simple application to make animated gif ?
[16:53] <zsquareplusc> goog: have oyu dont custom key bindings? change the alt or ctrl key?  also note that AltGr is not working for this
[16:53] <goog> hischild: F7 and F8 dont work
[16:54] <goog> zsquareplusc: no, alt and ctrl are not mapped. als other thing with alt and ctrl work.
[16:54] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: i count gimp as simple ;-) and it can do animated gofs
[16:54] <Karn> in a bash script is it possible to choose a default after x seconds?
[16:54] <et32273> goog: does "sudo chvt 1" from inside a gnome terminal work?
[16:55] <Karn> in a bash select*
[16:55] <ikonia> Karn: depends on your script, join #bash for bash chant
[16:55] <ikonia> chat
[16:55] <Karn> thanks
[16:55] <zsquareplusc> Karn: select doesnt do input. the actual input is done by read or a similar command. you would need a read command with a default and timeout
[16:55] <The_ManU_212> hi
[16:56] <exitman> what was the command again to format a mounted partition with ext3?
[16:56] <The_ManU_212> i palyed some flash in firefox afet closing i ahve no sound anymore believe tehre is using some rest of the app my sound device how to find out which it is?
[16:56] <exitman> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdd1 ?
[16:56] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: hi, from what i've seen on the tutorial that are on the net, i've seen simpler ? can i make a search in synaptic, but via the terminal ?
[16:56] <ikonia> exitman: you don't do it while it's mounted
[16:56] <Jimi__Hendrix> has anyone had any problems with ati cards in 8.10?
[16:56] <ikonia> Jimi__Hendrix: MANY people
[16:57] <Jimi__Hendrix> ikonia, what should i do then?
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> exitman: yeas.. looks right
[16:57] <Cute_Bettong> so anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing the errors?
[16:57] <Jimi__Hendrix> just stay with 8.04?
[16:57] <ikonia> Jimi__Hendrix: my personal advice won't be welcome, but buy supported hardware
[16:57] <Jimi__Hendrix> hehe
[16:57] <ikonia> Jimi__Hendrix: upgrade and try to fix the issues if you have any
[16:57] <diffred> how do I convert a chm to html?
[16:57] <Jimi__Hendrix> well heres the funny part
[16:58] <Jimi__Hendrix> it worked perfectly in beta...but when i upgraded...
[16:58] <scuderiaf1> hello and thanks in advance, i need guidance on a curl script to a https site which one of the first steps is to accept a certificate ... the man pages  imho are thin on accepting certificates. so my questions ... does anyone have a good sample of an get to an https with an accept of the certificate?  Or, a good reference document....?
[16:58] <larsjaaaaa> Hi! Anyone know how to flush/restart the wireless networking? I have tried #/etc/init..d/networking restart, ifdown wlan0/ifup wlan0, restarted NetworkManager, restarted the nm-applet... After a restart iwlist wlan0 scan works again...
[16:59] <admin__> Bonjour !
[16:59] <larsjaaaaa> I ment after a reboot..
[16:59] <fwaokda> Hey can someone help me...  my ubuntu desktop icons don't appear until I look at the desktop in the file browser.  I can't seem to figure out how to fix this... ?
[16:59] <admin__> Au revoir !
[16:59] <atb101010> having troubles booting ubuntu on my system from cd
[16:59] <kevin_405> i have lost my eth0 configuration anyone knows how to troubleshoot
[16:59] <lordblaa> hololight, recon69 - plugged them into the ports on the front of the case.. seem to work now *sigh*.  must be some sort of hw bug i think.. but i guess i can live with it this way.  thanks for the help guys would never have worked it out otherwise
[17:00] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: you haven't tried unetbootin yet?
[17:00] <atb101010> onetinsolder: no, not yet
[17:01] <nomemory> hello, what's the clean way to change the default text editor in Xubuntu
[17:01] <nomemory> ?
[17:01] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: do not have a usb memory stick and not sure what unetbootin does or where to find it
[17:01] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: search in console: apt-get search   but for me, there is nothing simpler than gimp. because i use it also for other image editing i know it well. using a specialized app, often means learning the app and when it is "simple" it also lacks the good features
[17:02] <kevin_405> anybody knows how to debug ethernet connection on ububtu
[17:02] <ikonia> kevin_405: what is the issue ?
[17:02] <ahox> kevin_405: first, try lshw / lspci
[17:02] <kevin_405> My lan card was working before and then i was trying to get wlan to work
[17:02] <ahox> to see if the device is actually found
[17:03] <kevin_405> now my lan card is not showing up
[17:03] <ikonia> kevin_405: not showing up wher e?
[17:03] <onetinsoldier> nomemory: try looking at the man page for  update-alternatives   ...example would be update-alternative --config vim
[17:03] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: i suspect that my problem may have to do with a corrupted hard disk, though cannot understand why would not be able to boot from cd
[17:03] <ahox> kevin_405: Did you change the devices in either networksettings or /etc/network/ ?
[17:03] <kevin_405> eth0 does show up when i do modprobe
[17:03] <kevin_405> nope i changed blacklist file
[17:03] <ikonia> kevin_405: does ifconfig -a show eth0?
[17:04] <kevin_405> i just did ifconfig and it does not show eth0
[17:04] <ikonia> kevin_405: what does it show ?
[17:04] <recon69> ﻿kevin_405: use "hwls -C network" to see what cards are being recognised and what driver they using
[17:04] <kevin_405> l0 or something
[17:04] <atb101010> so am trying to figure out a way to reformat my hard disks and start up from scratch again by reinstalling os
[17:04] <ikonia> kevin_405: 10 or something ?
[17:04] <earthen> how do i see what sound card chip i have? Just got a new laptop and my sound isn't working
[17:04] <ikonia> kevin_405: you need to be exact, and use the pastebin to show examples
[17:04] <kevin_405> L0
[17:05] <ikonia> kevin_405: lo is the loop back address
[17:05] <kevin_405> i would have to reboot
[17:05] <recon69> ﻿atb101010: do you have a liveCD?
[17:05] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: probably nothing worng with your hard drive. as i said, i had the same problem you are encountering. it's a bug in the kernel that the 8.10 installer uses, but it only affects a small percentage of people, of which i was one. if you can get 8.10 installed then the kernel will beupdated and problem fixed. i'm using my sata dvd drive right ow to listen to a cd
[17:05] <kevin_405> so only loopback is showing up
[17:05] <zsquareplusc> earthen: lspci show PCI devices, and most soundcards
[17:05] <ikonia> kevin_405: put the black list back how it was
[17:06] <earthen> zsquareplusc,  thanks
[17:06] <nibbler> earthen: lspci, maybe lsusb
[17:06] <kevin_405> Well the sad part is i did not save blacklist info.. i though i had made those entiries manuall
[17:06] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok, i'll make the effort, because it is a great application, from the little bit i've used...Thanks :)
[17:06] <nomemory> ok, thanks
[17:06] <TriBeCa99> hi guys, looking for help with a new install
[17:06] <nibbler> kevin_405: uncomment them, load modules manually
[17:06] <DIL> !parted
[17:06] <kevin_405> Any ideas how to debug this..
[17:06] <MoLoot> TriBeCa99: Do you have a question to ask?
[17:07] <TriBeCa99> it looks like ubuntu isn't recognizing 1) my onboard LAN, and 2) my RAID array
[17:07] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: is it onboard raid ?
[17:07] <DasEi> !gparted|DIL
[17:07] <ahox> kevin_405: how does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[17:07] <TriBeCa99> it's the onboard RAID and LAN from the P5N-E SLI
[17:07] <TriBeCa99> yes, it's onboard
[17:07] <zsquareplusc> qcjn: aminated gifs in gimp are easy. just make several layers and it will ask you if you want to save an animation when you save as .gif. maybe start by opening an anim gif to learn
[17:07] <kevin_405> ikonia are u there...
[17:07] <HoNgOuRu> how do I set jre in firefox 3 ? I've downloaded the jre .bin file, and run it....but no luck
[17:07] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: onboard raid is a technology called fake raid, it's a poor technology overall, and very bad in linux
[17:07] <ikonia> kevin_405: yes I am
[17:07] <DIL> ty D
[17:07] <TriBeCa99> yeah... i've heard
[17:07] <qcjn> zsquareplusc: ok
[17:08] <TriBeCa99> should i just use linux software RAID?
[17:08] <earthen> zsquareplusc,  nibbler  I don't see anything that looks like a sound card with them commands. anything in particular i should look for
[17:08] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: much better solution
[17:08] <TriBeCa99> hmm,  ok
[17:08] <kevin_405> recon69 are u there
[17:08] <TriBeCa99> both are processor-bound anyway, right?
[17:08] <nibbler> earthen: multimedia controller, audio controller, the like
[17:08] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: yes, but one is native to the kernel, one uses reverse engineered windows driver interfaces
[17:08] <recon69> ﻿kevin_405: yes, sort of hopping back and forth
[17:08] <TriBeCa99> i see
[17:09] <zsquareplusc> earthen: and lshw -C sound  ?
[17:09] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: linux software raid is ver efficiant
[17:09] <TriBeCa99> ok, i'll disable the onboard raid
[17:09] <TriBeCa99> do i install to one of the disks, then set up the software raid?
[17:09] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: if you install the jre from the repo's with aptitude/ap-get or synaptic you'll probably get quicker results than doing it manually
[17:09] <TriBeCa99> or can i do it during the install?
[17:09] <HoNgOuRu> yes but that way didn't work
[17:09] <HoNgOuRu> that's why I turned to manual install
[17:10] <gnutron> HoNgOuRu: package name is sun-java6-jre hope this helps.
[17:10] <Mpole> greetings everyone
[17:10] <HoNgOuRu> I installed that
[17:10] <TriBeCa99> ikonia: [12:08] <TriBeCa99> do i install to one of the disks, then set up the software raid?
[17:10] <jose__> sudo apt-get install windows vista
[17:10] <HoNgOuRu> and then java something firefox-common plugin or something
[17:10] <earthen> zsquareplusc, that got it
[17:10] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: sounds sensible
[17:10] <Ab3L> hello
[17:10] <kevin_405> ikon are u there
[17:10] <ikonia> kevin_405: yes, I said earlier
[17:11] <TriBeCa99> ok... now about the LAN drivers?
[17:11] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: what about it ?
[17:11] <TriBeCa99> i tried an install earlier and it failed to find my DHCP server
[17:11] <Mpole> Question: I installed ClamAV, but I cant update it from GNOME. It says I have to be Root... Do I need to create the root account and then login with that so that I can update ClamAV?
[17:11] <earthen> zsquareplusc, now how do i install audio drivers
[17:11] <TriBeCa99> which makes no sense unless it can't find the onboard LAN
[17:11] <kevin_405> sorry got disconneted
[17:11] <HoNgOuRu> it always promts to install jre plugins...
[17:11] <HoNgOuRu> I don't know what else to do
[17:11] <TriBeCa99> especially since my router didn't show any additional DHCP clients
[17:11] <ikonia> TriBeCa99: we can work that through once it's incalled
[17:12] <nibbler> TriBeCa99: set it up manually, ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.1 up
[17:12] <nibbler> TriBeCa99: and see if it works
[17:12] <zsquareplusc> earthen: in the lshw output do you see a configuration line with a module=... ? if so, a driver is already loaded
[17:12] <kevin_405> Ikonia the default ubuntu setup does show eth0
[17:12] <TriBeCa99> thanks, i'll try that
[17:12] <kevin_405> Is there any way to rollback to default
[17:12] <ikonia> kevin_405: no
[17:12] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: let me install it and see what happens. what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:12] <Mpole> ikonia: since you're the Head Ubuntu Guru In Charge, can you please answer my question?
[17:12] <zsquareplusc> earthen: double clicking on the speaker icon should open the mixer device. does this work, and if so, are the controls up?
[17:12] <ikonia> Mpole: didn't see your questions, and I'm certainly no guru
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> 8.04
[17:13] <ikonia> Mpole: what's the problem
[17:13] <gnutron> Mpole: i 'think' clamav updates itself via cron run-parts but i'm not sure.
[17:13] <Mpole> Question: I installed ClamAV, but I cant update it from GNOME. It says I have to be Root... Do I need to create the root account and then login with that so that I can update ClamAV?
[17:13] <TriBeCa99> ok, still burning the 64-bit version (accidentally used the 32-bit earlier). I'll come back once I have the install going
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> thanks a lot by the way
[17:13] <kevin_405> So is there a howto for setting up eth0 i can look at
[17:13] <earthen> zsquareplusc,  yeah the speaker icon is working but i get no sound
[17:13] <Mpole> gnutron: unfortunately it doesnt
[17:13] <nix_hr> hello, i need a little help, i'm noticing the dd process eating 100% of cpu, ps says it's /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg, and with a grep i figured out it is run from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[17:13] <ikonia> Mpole: no, you need to either do it from the command line using "sudo" to enable the commands as "root"
[17:13] <nix_hr> what the hell is that? :-)
[17:13] <ikonia> Mpole: or use gksudo $command to launch the guru
[17:13] <ikonia> Mpole: the gui sorry
[17:13] <kevin_405> ikonia So is there a howto for setting up eth0 i can look at
[17:13] <HoNgOuRu> onetinsoldier: by the way , I tryied with the x64 version of jre6 update 11
[17:14] <ikonia> kevin_405: eth0 is setup, you've broke it
[17:14] <Mpole> ikonia: exact syntax please? i am still very new to this.. lol
[17:14] <ikonia> kevin_405: you need to roll back what you changed
[17:14] <ikonia> Mpole: what command are ou using to update it ?
[17:14] <ahox> kevin_405: generally it should work with the network-manager...
[17:14] <Mpole> ikonia: well, i tried sudo apt-get install clamav-data
[17:14] <Mpole> ikonia: and got several conflicts
[17:14] <kevin_405> Ikonia i know that.. so question is how to debug.. if break something like this in windows it is a matter of reinstalling the driver..
[17:14] <ahox> kevin_405: However, you can try to paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[17:14] <kevin_405> Can be so hard in ubuntu
[17:14] <ikonia> Mpole: and what does that say ?
[17:14] <R0b0t1> What is the command to save all of your installed packages in a text file, which you can later tell the package manager to install all of the packages in the file?
[17:15] <kevin_405> Canr be so hard in ubuntu
[17:15] <kevin_405> Cant be so hard in ubuntu
[17:15] <earthen> zsquareplusc, I can change the volume but that's it
[17:15] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: ok, there is already a difference between our setups here. i use ubuntu 8.10 so i probably can' help you, but someone else probably can
[17:15] <n8tuser> !clone | R0b0t1
[17:15] <onetinsoldier> can't*
[17:15] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[17:15] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[17:15] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: i probably can't* help you
[17:15] <Mpole> ikonia: strangely enough it IS working now... lol
[17:15] <Mpole> ikonia: will come back when it's done...
[17:15] <recon69> ﻿kevin_405: sort of depends what you have changed, unblacklisting as driver you blacklisted would be a good start
[17:15] <ikonia> Mpole: well, as long as your working
[17:15] <ahox> kevin_405: Depends on how bad your system is screwed up - at the end of the day, it is linux
[17:16] <HoNgOuRu> is there much difference between 8.04 and 8.10 =
[17:16] <zsquareplusc> earthen: the device selection in the mixer, does it show your hardware device too?
[17:16] <HoNgOuRu> ?
[17:16] <a_n_d_r_e> !Crack Coccaine
[17:16] <Mpole> ikonia: am hopeful the GUI will not tell me that it is 306 days old!
[17:16] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: Sorry, I've used that command, "No option --disable-columns"
[17:16] <ikonia> a_n_d_r_e: stop it now please
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: i don't know. 8.10 is the first time i've used ubuntu
[17:16] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[17:17] <a_n_d_r_e> ikonia: you could be polite about it
[17:17] <n8tuser> R0b0t1->  for which command?
[17:17] <ikonia> a_n_d_r_e: I was - please stop it now
[17:17] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/installed_packages
[17:17] <kevin_405> does anyone have the default blacklist file for ubuntu 8.1
[17:17] <Mpole> ikonia: lol
[17:17] <earthen> zsquareplusc, where is that, or do you mean in the sound preferences
[17:17] <R0b0t1> I haven't tried the other.
[17:17] <onetinsoldier> poor ikonia
[17:17] <a_n_d_r_e> ikonia: how about: a_n_d_r_e: do you mind not doing that, you're bothering the others.
[17:18] <ikonia> a_n_d_r_e: please join #ubuntu-ops
[17:18] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> why not follow the suggestions
[17:18] <MoLoot> kevin_405: If that is the version you are currently loading, can't you force a package reinstall?
[17:18] <DrHackenbush> anyone up for an SD card question?
[17:18] <zsquareplusc> earthen: the mixer that is opened by double clicking the speaker icon. it should have a device selection above the sliders
[17:18] <Mpole> thanks ikonia you have been very helpful
[17:18] <MoLoot> loading=using.. kevin_405
[17:18] <kevin_405> ahox do u know the steps for setting up eth0
[17:18] <Mpole> i will be back
[17:18] <Mpole> lol
[17:18] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: I followed the suggestions....?
[17:18] <zsquareplusc> !sound > earthen also check the links here
[17:18] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> so what is the issue?
[17:18] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: I copied it as I saw it, and it did not work.
[17:18] <a_n_d_r_e> ikonia: why?
[17:19] <TwoD> I'm looking for an unrar library which handles v3 of .rar.
[17:19] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> which part of it did not work?
[17:19] <recon69> ﻿kevin_405: and pastbin the output of "lshw -C network" , the contents of the blacklist file and interfaces file and "ifconfig" and "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[17:19] <napster> I'm trying to download a podcast, but the there is no tag of Save as Target , how i can do?
[17:19] <earthen> zsquareplusc,  ok yeah it's there as HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[17:19] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: sid@LinMac:~$ aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/installed_packages
[17:19] <R0b0t1> aptitude: unrecognized option `--disable-columns'
[17:20] <oskar-> napster:  in a browser? which is it?
[17:20] <kevin_405> ok recon69 i need to logout and login to ubuntu to do that
[17:20] <napster> firefox
[17:20] <kevin_405> i will do it now
[17:20] <kevin_405> give me 10 min
[17:20] <oskar-> napster:  this might help: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/3006
[17:21] <diffred> how to print a chm file in a hp? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6367533#post6367533
[17:21] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: i'm not too sure the Sun Jre plugin is working in Firefox on 8.10 either!
[17:21] <HoNgOuRu> hoho
[17:21] <HoNgOuRu> wait
[17:22] <HoNgOuRu> check if you see the applets
[17:22] <HoNgOuRu> http://java.sun.com/applets/jdk/1.4/index.html
[17:22] <karname2> salam , har ki download az rapidshare dare mitone az site www.rapidgo.net estefade kone , (downloade primium)
[17:22] <HoNgOuRu> thats an applet page, try to run anyone
[17:22] <napster> Thanks, i hope it will work for me
[17:22] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: usually when i type in  about:plugins  on the address bar it shows up as a plugin... but not doing so in ubuntu 8.10 here
[17:22] <a_n_d_r_e> !ubottu
[17:23] <Ab3L> how to import/export contacts in/from evolution by using a .csv file, if contacts contain accents ?
[17:23] <HoNgOuRu> when I type about:plugins it just shows the flash and other one, but no java
[17:23] <racarter> my sound card still doesn't work on a toshiba laptop
[17:23] <mohbana> what's the name of the gnome font viewer, it's missing in my install
[17:23] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: yes.. i hear you. same thing happening here
[17:24] <fwaokda> I've been having a problem and it's kinda hard to explain without typing a good bit so I made a post -- if anyone has time I'd appreciate any help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6367541#post6367541
[17:24] <racarter> i tried following the steps outlined here: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/
[17:24] <R0b0t1> I have an external harddrive I wish to partition, it's name is SMALL. How do I access it?
[17:24] <fwaokda> R0b0t1, like a usb hdd?
[17:24] <HoNgOuRu> thats weird...
[17:25] <jordyD> I don't know if this is the place to ask, but does anybody know of a plug-in for Pidgin that allows you to view your MySpace messages?
[17:25] <R0b0t1> No, an actual external harddisk. 250GB
[17:25] <HoNgOuRu> it should be easy to install
[17:25] <R0b0t1> fw0rd: No, an actual harddisk. 250GB
[17:25] <fwaokda> R0b0t1, I think you have to mount it first and then try formatting with gparted.
[17:25] <oskar-> Ab3L:  maybe you can work around it with "tr"
[17:25] <zsquareplusc> fwaokda: that's umount for gparted ;-)
[17:25] <napster> i want to update or upgrade my openOffice without downloading the Installer, is it possible?
[17:26] <Ab3L> oskar-: what do you mean? what is "tr" ?
[17:26] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: wait.. the plugin package didn't install :-/  i need to install it apparently
[17:26] <fwaokda> zsquareplusc, oops
[17:26]  * fwaokda :(
[17:26] <rigoleto> hola atodos
[17:26] <racarter> i need help
[17:26] <racarter> with sound
[17:26] <racarter> on linux and toshiba
[17:26] <oskar-> Ab3L:  tr - translate or delete characters
[17:27] <apocalypti> i just installed 8.10 from a cd because i needed to move over to a bigger hdd, and copied my /home folder to a backup to keep all my preferences. the install went smoothly and everything copied over fine, but now sound in Firefox and Totem doesnt work. everywhere else it does. why?
[17:27] <onur_> maybe codecs?
[17:27] <napster> Anyone have used Rosetta Stone with ubuntu 8.10?
[17:28] <RizR> chaps - how do I mount a filesystem rw for all users? objective is to mount it and then share it using samba in rw mode for all allowed users.
[17:28] <apocalypti> onur_: i think so, but how do i fix?
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: don't know about on you end, but here for ubuntu 8.10, i get  No candidate version found for sun-java6-plugin
[17:28] <HoNgOuRu> me too !
[17:28] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> i dont know who controls the ubunto robot.. so if aptitude --disable-columns dont work, try to man aptitude
[17:28] <HoNgOuRu> maybe adding a repo
[17:28] <onur_> it should install if there is codecs needed. you shouldn't be doing anything for that
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: that's a problem
[17:29] <dan1el_> Hi, I just installed wubi to try ubuntu. However, im finding it hard to find my videos and my folders... is there any way I can access them?
[17:29] <oskar-> RizR:  depends on the file system type... which is it?
[17:29] <HoNgOuRu> I'm reading about that right now...
[17:29] <iggy1> anyone available to help?  i have a question about blacklisting a module...
[17:29] <dan1el_> My "windows folders" that is...
[17:29] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: yeah... perhaps adding a repo would fix it..i dunno
[17:29] <lyhana8> hi, my firefox suddenly crash during a gdoc edition, and know i kept having a 'segmentation fault' error even in safe-mode (no answer on #fireox)
[17:29] <HoNgOuRu> there should be a guide to manually install it
[17:29] <napster> ````````````
[17:29] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> i would use myself  dpkg --get-selections
[17:29] <apocalypti> onur_: well that apparently didnt work. any advice?
[17:29] <RizR> oskar, one's ext3 and other is fat32.
[17:30] <HoNgOuRu> it says here that when you get that error is because either the package isnt in the repo, or you typed it wrong
[17:30] <onur_> sry I'm kinda newbie too =)
[17:30] <iggy1> i added 'blacklist ssb' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist    but it says that ssb is still being used
[17:30] <R0b0t1> I'm trying to partition my external harddrive, but Gparted won't change anything. How can I pimp-slap it into doing what I want?
[17:30] <Ab3L> oskar-: your idea seems interesting. nevertheless i do not find such an option in evolution-addressbook-export. how can i use it?
[17:30] <apocalypti> onur_: its cool
[17:30] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: i hear you
[17:30] <lyhana8> hi, my firefox suddenly crash during a gdoc edition, and know i kept having a 'segmentation fault' error even in safe-mode (no answer on #fireox)
[17:30] <smacfarl> hi
[17:31] <Ab3L> oskar-: is there a tool i need to install?
[17:31] <onetinsoldier> Hey all... no sun-java6-plugin package for either 8.04 or 8.10 ??
[17:31] <n8tuser> onetinsoldier-> how are you doing the search? what command you used?
[17:31] <smacfarl> so I installed amark 2.0 and it just doesn't work. After trying to debug with the devs and forums for the last 4 days I am giving up, especially now that they announced they are going on a camping trip. How do i uninstal amarok-dke4. It's not in synaptic.
[17:31] <iggy1> sudo modprobe -r ssb returns FATAL: Module ssb in use
[17:31] <oskar-> RizR:  for ext3 it's not about mounting. you only have to set owner and permissions in the file system root.  for fat32 you may want to set uid, gid, umask and gmask. beware, the masks are masks, which means, that a set bit there takes the permisson away
[17:31] <iggy1> anybody have any ideas?
[17:32] <R0b0t1> I'm trying to partition an external HD with gparted (not the live disc), but the drive must be locked or etc, as I can't change anything. How can I get it so that I can change something?
[17:32] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, it's in multiverse
[17:32] <smacfarl> amarok-kde4
[17:32] <nibbler> iggy1: use lsmod to see what mods use it
[17:32] <kevin_405> recon69
[17:32] <iggy1> tthanks
[17:32] <kevin_405> are u there
[17:32] <lyhana8> i can it possible to get a seg fault on firefox 2 and 3 ???
[17:32] <kevin_405> recon69 are u there
[17:32] <oskar-> Ab3L:  i don't know about evolution. i thought, that it might help you convert an existing csv file to import it...
[17:33] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: i believe i have that repo enabled. let me check and see if i can tell for certain tho
[17:33] <RizR> oskar: thanks, gonna ask st. google more :-)
[17:33] <Ab3L> oskar-:  do you know some other e-mail client that supports import/export contacts with accents? (not outlook)
[17:34] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: yes, I have multiverse repo enabled.. any idea?
[17:34] <smacfarl> so I think I need a command like like apt-get -u amarok-kde4 right? is that how you do it from the command line?
[17:34] <iggy1> lsmod sayd ssb is used by b44.....
[17:34] <iggy1> what is b44?
[17:34] <iggy1> and thanks for getting me this far  :-)
[17:35] <racarter> gah!
[17:35] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, run a "apt-cache search sun-java6-plugin"
[17:35] <recon69> ﻿kevin_405: yes, on and off, paste the link plz
[17:35] <racarter> can anyone help me with sound issues?
[17:35] <iggy1> looks like b44 is another module
[17:35] <TriBeCa99> is there a way to set up software RAID during install?
[17:35] <smacfarl> anytakers?
[17:35] <juanez> racarter: just describe your issues. dont ask to ask
[17:35] <mmarker> Ok, I know there's a simple trick to this, and I've forgotten it. I have 2 directory trees with files. I want to find which tree has a file the other doesn't, and differences between the common files in both trees.
[17:35] <TriBeCa99> i'm in the partitioner at the moment
[17:35] <mmarker> diff would work, but it's crude
[17:36] <racarter> i've tried to describe my issue but
[17:36] <racarter> i don't have sound
[17:36] <racarter> that's my issue... i'm using a toshiba satellite laptop and ubuntu
[17:36] <allsystemsarego> !sound
[17:36] <oskar-> Ab3L:  i've looked for that deature...
[17:36] <oskar-> f
[17:36] <Andy80> one simple question: where is the .Trash folder in Ubuntu 8.10? I cannot find it in my home/.Trash
[17:36] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: nope.. not there. i wonder why tho? i do have the multiverse repository enabled. i looked at synaptic and at my /etc/apt/sources.list file
[17:37] <TriBeCa99> anyone? software RAID during install?
[17:37] <smacfarl> so how do i uninstall amarok 2.0 from the command line apt-get something?
[17:37] <eNons3nse> can someone please tell me how i can set my wifi to not ask for my default keyring password every time i boot my computer?
[17:37] <racarter> i wet through the steps outlined here with no luck: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/26/fix-no-sound-for-ubuntu-in-toshiba-satellite-a205-s4707/
[17:37] <oskar-> !trash | Andy80
[17:37] <smacfarl> !amarok-kde4
[17:37] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, do you have medibuntu in the list too?
[17:37] <juanez> racarter: did you see what ubottu said regarding sound?
[17:37] <iggy1> looks like b44 is a broadcom module
[17:37] <gnutron> mmarker: the fdupes command possibly.
[17:37] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: don't think so
[17:37] <smacfarl> !apt-get
[17:38] <racarter> yeah looking at it now..
[17:38] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, it might be in medibuntu, I'm not sure, let me check
[17:38] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: ok, thanks
[17:38] <dan1el_> Hi, i used wubi to install ubuntu. Is there any way I can access my windows folders with music, documents etc?
[17:39] <Andy80> oskar-: thanks... anyway there is a bug: when I empty it, the icon remains the full one
[17:39] <axisys_> looking for an article on to setup gmail as the relayhost
[17:39] <zsquareplusc> dan1el_: do you see the windoews drive under places menu?
[17:40] <ardchoille> !info sun-java6-plugin
[17:40] <oskar-> Andy80:  have you tried killall -HUP trashapplet
[17:40] <HoNgOuRu> onetinsoldier, it says the plugin won't be available until 2009 (for amd64 arquitecture)
[17:40] <dan1el_> zsquareplusc: no..
[17:40] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, it's not medibuntu ... pastebin your sources.list
[17:40] <onetinsoldier> HoNgOuRu: ahhh, i see. ok, thanks for the info. good to know
[17:40] <R0b0t1> I have a disk formatted with fat32. Currently, it reports that it is full, although nothing appears in the file browser. How might I get this space back?
[17:41] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: look up a coupl lines.. at HoNgOuRu   ^^
[17:41] <Andy80> oskar-: just tried, as you suggested. Now the icon showed is the empty one, but this is clearly a bug. Don't you think?
[17:41] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, Oh I see 64 bit :-S
[17:41] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: yep
[17:41] <dan1el_> zsquareplusc: I found it! Its under /host/
[17:41] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, bleeding edge :(
[17:42] <zsquareplusc> dan1el_: never used wubi. but i think the windows drive is already mounted to access the disk image.--- ah there you are
[17:42] <apocalypti> robot1: if you dont care about the data on it, you can format it
[17:42] <TriBeCa99> ok, question
[17:42] <R0b0t1> apocalypti: That is what I've been trying to do to no avail. How might I get that done?
[17:42] <oskar-> Andy80:  yes, i heard of it a few times, and i am sure someone reported it ;)
[17:42] <allsystemsarego> onetinsoldier, you can expect more of the same once you go 64 bit
[17:42] <TriBeCa99> i'm attempting to install and set up a RAID 1+0 array on 4 1TB drives
[17:43] <Andy80> oskar-: just searched in launchpad / ubuntu / bugs... there are similar bugs reported, but not this one
[17:43] <TriBeCa99> do i need a fifth drive for a seperate /boot partition?
[17:43] <lahori> how can i change my computer name so it does not conflict with the one being used on another machine running on windows....
[17:43] <Andy80> I'm going to report it
[17:43] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> man mkfs
[17:43] <TriBeCa99> or will ubuntu be able to boot solely off the RAID 1+0 array?
[17:43] <allsystemsarego> lahori, change it in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[17:43] <onetinsoldier> allsystemsarego: things are going more and more towards 64-bit tho. 64-bit is no longer in it's infancy imo.. perhaps it's still young, but not an infant
[17:44] <apocalypti> r0b0t1: ubuntu comes packaged with a tool for drive formatting, the name of which escapes me at the moment. is that what you used?
[17:44] <lahori> allsystemsarego: thanks!
[17:44] <DIL> ubuntu is releases every 6 months i noticed that 8.10 is not LTS am i correct? is there a 8.10 LTS?
[17:44] <onetinsoldier> DIL: no
[17:44] <R0b0t1> DIL: 8.04 LTS
[17:45] <R0b0t1> I think...
[17:45] <ardchoille> 8.04 is LTS, 8.10 is not
[17:45] <DIL> so LTSis every 3 years?
[17:45] <R0b0t1> n8tuser: Then how would I find the device name of the drive? I know where it is mounted, /media/SMALL, but I don't know it's drive name.
[17:45] <ardchoille> 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[17:45] <DIL> ty
[17:46] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> look in  /sys/block
[17:47] <vignesh> how to make the windows trasparent permanently ? i am able to make them transparent temporarily by using alt+scroll. how to make it permanent?
[17:47] <apocalypti> R0b0t1: what partition editor were you using?
[17:47] <n8tuser> R0b0t1-> btw you dont mount a partition you want to format
[17:47] <R0b0t1> apocalypti: Gparted, but it won't change anything. n8tuser: Thanks.
[17:48] <dan1el_> How do I install this music player: http://code.google.com/p/quodlibet/ ?
[17:48] <TriBeCa99> let's try this again
[17:48] <TriBeCa99> i'm attempting to install and set up a RAID 1+0 array on 4 1TB drives
[17:48] <TriBeCa99> do i need a fifth drive for a seperate /boot partition?
[17:48] <TriBeCa99> or will ubuntu be able to boot solely off the RAID 1+0 array?
[17:48] <apocalypti> R0b0t1: well thats odd, any idea why?
[17:48] <Guest46729> how can I learn my full hd space ?
[17:49] <R0b0t1> apocalypti: Well, there were these keys and a lock thingy... No, I don't know. When I unmount it, gparted stalls and won't startup.
[17:49] <Andy80> ufff!!! very frustrating to find bugs in launchpad interface, when you try to submit another bug -.-
[17:49] <onetinsoldier> dan1el_: if you join #ubuntu-offtopic i can help you
[17:49] <DrHackenbush> anyone up for an SD card question?
[17:49] <apocalypti> Guest46729: applications -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer
[17:50] <Guest46729> apocalypti, from the terminal ?
[17:50] <jdolan> hi, what package provides apt-get's bash tab completion?
[17:50] <R0b0t1> GODFUCKKIT!
[17:50]  * R0b0t1 slaps himself.
[17:50] <FloodBot1> R0b0t1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <apocalypti> Guest46729: no, just through the menus on the top left corner of your screen
[17:51] <kingartus> hi...
[17:51] <Guest46729> apocalypti, I want to learn with the terminal.
[17:51] <TriBeCa99> hmm...
[17:51] <TriBeCa99> anyone for my software raid question?
[17:51] <toshiro> boa tarde
[17:51] <mushroomcheeseme> why do default applications in ubuntu 8.04 hang?
[17:52] <emilien> can anyone recommend me a vpn tunneling service for P2P ?
[17:52] <toshiro> quanta gente que usa ubuntu
[17:52] <racarter> grrr
[17:52] <apocalypti> Guest46729: well im not sure how to do it in the terminal, but if you want to learn terminal basics, i reccomend www.tuxfiles.org
[17:52] <racarter> the best i can figure out on my own is sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[17:52] <racarter> which does not seem to do anything
[17:53] <kingartus> i have a little question... i have a little PC 550Mhz, and a olt tv card... can i create a little tv computer from the hardware???
[17:53] <toshiro> alguem usa ubuntu e Macintosh aqui ?
[17:53] <RizR> usb hard drive un mounts automatically after a while. any way to prevent it? I mount it manually for now.
[17:53] <ardchoille> !es | toshiro
[17:54] <allsystemsarego> !pt | toshiro
[17:54] <berilio> hey guys, is it possible to continue an upgrade from hardy to intrepid if its stoped?
[17:54] <Guest46729> apocalypti, I found out it. man df.
[17:54] <Directorate> can anyone help me out with the laptop hibernation issue ?
[17:54] <apocalypti> Guest46729: yay
[17:54] <berilio> i mean, using update-manager
[17:54] <racarter> can anyone help me with a sound issue?
[17:54] <usser> kingartus, depends on what kind of card it is and whether it has a built in mpeg2 decoder/encoder if not then the cpu speed might not be enough to encode the stream on the fly
[17:55] <Guest46729> apocalypti, thanks bro, have a nice day!
[17:55] <berilio> racarter, i can try... whats the issue?
[17:55] <toshiro> obrigado
[17:55] <racarter> i don't have sound
[17:55] <racarter> end of story
[17:55] <racarter> um, i have a toshiba satellite and ubuntu
[17:55] <berilio> racarter, what sound card u have?
[17:55] <racarter> the sound card is built into the motherboard
[17:55] <mrpistol> hello
[17:55] <berilio> racarter, did u turn on the speakers?
[17:56] <racarter> intel 82018g or something
[17:56] <racarter> yes
[17:56] <berilio> racarter, just a joke... am are u using pulse or alsa? intrepid or hardy?
[17:56] <Directorate> hibernation help anyone ?
[17:56] <racarter> berilio, i don't know i think alsa
[17:56] <racarter> i don't even know what the other stuff you listed are
[17:57] <mrpistol> I MADE WORK TOUCHSCREEN AND FINGERPRINT ON A HP - TX1420CA :)
[17:57] <berilio> racarter, u have to tell me if u are in intrepid or hardy and if u are using alsa or pulse... go to system preferences sound and tell me whats selected... and please tell me if u are in hardy or intrepid.
[17:57] <bsnider> which log should i check fro compiz startup errors?
[17:57] <xorlim> racarter: intrepid is ubuntu 8.10 and hardy is ubuntu 8.04
[17:58] <racarter> oh, 8.10 intrepid
[17:58] <mrpistol> I MADE WORK TOUCHSCREEN AND FINGERPRINT ON A HP - TX1420CA :)
[17:58] <racarter> everything is autodetect in sound preferences
[17:58] <berilio> racarter, wait a sec ill type a full way of trying sound...
[17:58] <Paralyzed> Hello, I'm having trouble booting the ubuntu CD up to get the partition and install going, is there someone who can help me with this.
[17:58] <mrpistol> anyone needs help with a tablet pc form hp? prv msg me!!
[17:59] <vignesh> Paralyzed, what exactly is happening?
[17:59] <onur_> I have problems with Evolution. I have set up the Hotmail account using Hotway. I am able to send emails through my Hotmail account but can't get my emails. Anyone have any ideas why? And I get bogofilter warning messages.
[17:59] <paladin> how can I copy/move files without updating their time tag?
[17:59] <mrpistol> you have to change your boot order to bbe enable to boot from CD/DVD ubuntu 8.10
[17:59] <Paralyzed> Well, i start it up, on my BIOS settings IDE CD-R Device is before harddrive. then i click CD-R on boot menu and windows starts normaly
[18:00] <mrpistol> yeah
[18:00] <jordyD> Hey does anybody know the shell command that simulates a keystroke?
[18:00] <mrpistol> not me
[18:00] <Paralyzed>  its too my attention vignesh it should show a ubuntu logo so i can get the partition set up
[18:00] <TriBeCa99> gonna try one more time
[18:00] <berilio> racarter, first you type on a terminal gksudo nautilus and go to /etc/x11/xsession.d and remove 70pulseaudio or anypulseaudio thing there, then close nautilus, then type on terminal sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio, then go to system-preferences-sound and select alsa
[18:00] <TriBeCa99> i need some help setting up software RAID 1+0 on a new install
[18:00] <cryptyk> I want to turn 8.10 into a Java dev environment.  I'll be using apache to serve java web services written in Eclipse, using Sun's JDK/JRE.  I'm curious the difference between installing 8.10 desktop, then installing apache, et al.  compared to installing 8.10 server, and going from there.
[18:00] <Paralyzed> I'm not that expeirence and i know i can wipe out windows if im not careful, im on a windows xp, manufacturer is dell and i have 26gb of space
[18:01] <berilio> racarter, select alsa for every single thing u have
[18:01] <Gnea> !install | Paralyzed
[18:01] <cryptyk> Does server make a good dev environment?  Or should I reserve it for actually serving once I've done my development in Desktop version
[18:01] <vignesh> !install | Paralyzed
[18:01] <berilio> racarter, after that restart the desktop with ctrl alt backspace or just restart the comptuer
[18:02] <Paralyzed> Gnea, Vignesh, thankyou, ill see what info i can find there
[18:02] <bpat1434> I'm running ubuntu 8.04.1 and trying to upgrade to 8.10.  Running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" returns nothing to upgrade.  any idesa?
[18:03] <berilio> racarter, try not removing 70pulseaudio just cut it and paste it in other place just in case it doesnt work
[18:03] <jrib> !upgrade | bpat1434
[18:04] <berilio> bpat1434, u have to enable regular distros on software sources then ull see the option to install 8.10
[18:04] <Nutt718> Hello all, can any point me to where I can get ubuntu network drivers for a gateway mt6723 notebook?
[18:05] <TwoD> How do I show the number of files in a directory?
[18:05] <racarter> berilio, i have two options for ALSA in sound preferences: 1. HDA Intel ALC85IVD Analog (ALSA) and just plain ALSA
[18:06] <jdolan> TwoD, ls -1 | wc -l
[18:06] <racarter> 2. ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[18:06] <berilio> racarter, HDA Intel
[18:06] <racarter> thanks
[18:06] <TwoD> jdolan, ah, thanks!
[18:06] <berilio> racarter, if it doesnt work, plain alsa...
[18:07] <racarter> ok, restarting
[18:07] <DrHackenbush> SD card question:  I'm running Hardy on a Dell Inspiron 9300 w/ a built-in card reader.  It reads cards from my cell phone just fine - can read the pics etc.  However, when I insert the one I use for music on my PDA (Palm T|X), logs show that the system sees the card, but never seems to try to mount it.
[18:07] <jdolan> TwoD, yw
[18:07] <DrHackenbush> Any thoughts on what may be up and how I could get that card mounted?
[18:07] <bonhoffer> can i use grep to search all files in a directory for a specific phrase?
[18:07] <BigLove> Is there a specific channel to help people installing ubuntu on an intel mac?
[18:07] <bonhoffer> often used grep off of a pipe
[18:07] <jdolan> bonhoffer, that's precisely what it's for.
[18:07] <bonhoffer> great
[18:07] <craxpt> hi. can some1 help me plese? i cant seem to make wubi boot past the grub menu
[18:07] <mnemo> how can I turn off X and drop into CLI text mode? (not disable gdm on startup but just temporary turn off X.org once) ???
[18:07] <jdolan> bonhoffer, fgrep -R "my phrase" .
[18:08] <Gnea> craxpt: what's the error?
[18:08] <bonhoffer> just needed the -R, thanks
[18:08] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> what format is the one from Palm?
[18:08] <jdolan> mnemo, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:08] <cappiz> someone here that can recommend a UPS that has GUI for ubuntu?
[18:09] <craxpt> menu is grub4dos and if i type kernel /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr, it detects a *nix image
[18:09] <DrHackenbush> not sure - i formatted it w/ my Palm so prolly whatever they use.  any good way to tell?
[18:09] <Nutt718> Hello all, can any point me to where I can get ubuntu network drivers for a gateway mt6723 notebook?
[18:09] <craxpt> but if i type boot, it just hangs
[18:09] <jdolan> Nutt718, run "lspci" and see what chipset it actually is.
[18:09] <jdolan> Nutt718, is it wireless or wired?
[18:09] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> try  fdisk -l  and see if it recognizes it
[18:10] <Nutt718> currently wired, but capable of both
[18:10] <DrHackenbush> will do - thx
[18:10] <BigLove> I've got a macbook with a broken CD drive... I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.10 using an external firewire cd drive. Whenever I hold down "c" to boot from the CD, it says "no bootable device"...
[18:10] <kristian1> there is no man page for "cd", so how can i "cd" to root? "cd ~/" home directory of user, but i cant figure out what cd to root is.
[18:10] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> try  sudo fdisk -l  and see if it recognizes it
[18:10] <ikonia> !away > nick|away
[18:10] <BigLove> And every guide I've seen says to use the live cd, except that I can't get into the livecd, heh
[18:10] <BigLove> any suggestions?
[18:10] <ikonia> BigLove: what do you mean you can't get in
[18:10] <DrHackenbush> n8tuser - device will be mmc0 or something like that?
[18:10] <n8tuser> kristian1-> cd == change directory
[18:10] <hippopota> i use firefox 3 with ubuntu 8.10 and would like to print selected part of a site
[18:10] <racarter> still no sound
[18:11] <nibbler> BigLove: try some other bootable cd, to check if its the driver or the cd?
[18:11] <BigLove> ikonia: It literally says, "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[18:11] <benc123> hello all, first timer here
[18:11] <Weggo> yeah installed linux couple hours ago :)
[18:11] <BigLove> nibbler: the leopard CD boot just fine from my external drive
[18:11] <nibbler> BigLove: disable internal cd, so that bios is not being confused with 2 drives?
[18:11] <ikonia> BigLove: sounds like your cd either is a corrupt image or a corrupt burn
[18:11] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> could be, but the filesystem on it is not supported or perhaps not readable by ubuntu..
[18:11] <benc123> can some one say hi benc123 so i know you can see me
[18:11] <nibbler> BigLove: ah ok then... try different ubuntu cd, burn again or so?
[18:11] <ikonia> benc123: we can see you
[18:11] <BigLove> ikonia: Hm. Well, it did this both for the 8.10 cd, and the 7.10 cd
[18:11] <benc123> thanks
[18:11] <berilio> racarter, try alsaconf if u dont have that sudo apt-get install alsa*
[18:11] <BigLove> nibbler: ^^ :)
[18:11] <n8tuser> benc123-> put on some pants.. hehe
[18:11] <ikonia> BigLove: both could be damaged/corrupt
[18:12] <nibbler> BigLove: you know how to burn images, like not burning the file itself? (just asking....)
[18:12] <kristian1> n8tuser : yes. i want to change from any directory directly to root then what do i type? cd ~/ - goes directly to home/kristian/ from anywhere.
[18:12] <BigLove> nibbler: Yup :) I'm a software engineer, heh. I'm decently savvy ;)
[18:12] <DrHackenbush> n8tuser - no output.  when i insert the Palm card I see this in my log... mmc0: new high speed SD card at address a73a
[18:12] <nibbler> kristian1:  cd /
[18:12] <n8tuser> kristian1-> cd /
[18:12] <recon69> could someone pastebin a unmodified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file from ubuntu 8.10
[18:12] <racarter> alsaconf
[18:12] <DrHackenbush> but fdisk -l mmc0 etc gives no output
[18:12] <BigLove> ikonia: Wow, the odds of that are crazy, haha. But yeah, I mean.. I guess I'll try that.
[18:12] <racarter> does not work, could not find it with apt-get
[18:12] <DrHackenbush> fdisk -l a73a
[18:13] <DrHackenbush> same
[18:13] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> try  sudo  fdisk -l
[18:13] <craxpt> any1 pleasE?
[18:13] <kristian1> n8tuser : hey again btw. i had to help my dad with setting up our garage opener yesterday, that is why i didn't show up again, im really sorry about that. anyways that problem got solved. :)
[18:13] <ikonia> BigLove: not really if your cd burning software/drive has a problem
[18:13] <BigLove> ikonia: well, I'll try booting the disks into my wife's win laptop, heh
[18:13] <ikonia> BigLove: or your isp is mangling your headers
[18:13] <DrHackenbush> same - was running sudo - failed to mention.  sorry bout that
[18:13] <kristian1> nibbler & n8tuser : thanks! :)
[18:13] <diffred> how to use grep searching for a pattern in a file given a directory and greps recursively? , trying grep --directories=recurse -R "flag" and works but without recursion :S
[18:13] <racarter> alsaconf don't have it can't seem to install it
[18:13] <BigLove> ikonia: Well, I could mount the iso fine... so it could be just mac's disk utility not burning it correctly.
[18:13] <bsnider> is there anyone here using an audigy with a dac that can successfully send ac3/dts to the dac?
[18:13] <n8tuser> kristian1-> you're welcome
[18:13] <ikonia> BigLove: possibly
[18:14] <nick|away> ikonia: i don't use away messages.?
[18:14] <BigLove> brb... I'll try on another laptop
[18:14] <DrHackenbush> doh - got that...
[18:14] <Gnea> !pm | craxpt
[18:14] <ikonia> nick|away: apologies, I though your nick|away nick means "nick - awat"
[18:14] <ikonia> away
[18:14] <DrHackenbush>         Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[18:14] <DrHackenbush> /dev/mmcblk0p1               1        2861     2011104+   6  FAT16
[18:14] <DrHackenbush> (pebcak sorry  :-p
[18:14] <nick|away> ikonia: nope.
[18:14] <ikonia> nick|away: my apologies then
[18:14] <Gnea> craxpt: what is the ERROR message that grub gives?
[18:14] <racarter> is there such a thing as an external sound card for a laptop?
[18:15] <racarter> is there a way to avoid the internal build in one?
[18:15] <racarter> built in*
[18:15] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> umm i would think ubuntu can read fat16,   now try to  sudo mount -t fat16 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
[18:15] <Gnea> racarter: yeah, if you plug one into a usb port
[18:15] <recon69> ﻿could someone pastebin a unmodified /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file from ubuntu 8.10
[18:15] <DrHackenbush> n8tuser...
[18:15] <DrHackenbush>  sudo mount -t fat16 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
[18:15] <nibbler> recon69: might be pretty empty i suppose
[18:16] <DrHackenbush> mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat16'
[18:16] <DrHackenbush> mount: maybe you meant 'vfat'?
[18:16] <gnutron> racarter: apt-get install esound, system - prefs - sound set to autodetect, if you have a sound card 'asoundconf list' set the default.
[18:16] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> umm i would think ubuntu can read fat16,   now try to  sudo mount -t fat16 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt
[18:16] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> yeah try vfat
[18:16] <mushroomcheeseme> why does my hardware hang on ubuntu?
[18:16] <BigLove> ikonia: Boot fine on my wife's win laptop
[18:16] <craxpt> i cannot go past the grub menu with wubi. any ideas?
[18:17] <ikonia> BigLove: what hardware are you trying to boot on
[18:17] <nibbler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85247/ @ recon69
[18:17] <DrHackenbush> n8tuser  - you rock  :-D
[18:17] <DrHackenbush> that did it.  thanks tons!
[18:17] <recon69> ﻿nibbler: thx
[18:17] <BigLove> ikonia: Macbook :)
[18:17] <Gnea> craxpt: yeah, stop asking for ideas and give some error messages.
[18:17] <ikonia> BigLove: which model/version
[18:17] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> i forget lots of things though, but i get you close enuff
[18:17] <BigLove> ikonia: using an External firewire dvd. Um. Intel Core Duo 2GHz
[18:17] <DrHackenbush> close enough is close enough.  :-D   that's been bugging me for a while now.  thanks again  :-)
[18:18] <n8tuser> DrHackenbush-> you are welcome
[18:18] <ikonia> BigLove: now sure how macs book from external devices, especially DVD drives, eg: how they hang off the buss
[18:18] <stapel> I'm looking for a proxy switcher utility for ubuntu
[18:18] <ikonia> BigLove: any reason your not booting from the internal drive ?
[18:18] <xorlim> recon69: http://pastebin.com/m170ea897
[18:18] <l337ingDisorder> Can anyone help me install flashplugin-nonfree? Here's the output of 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree': http://rafb.net/p/ND5xB880.html
[18:18] <ikonia> BigLove: as in the internal DVD drive
[18:18] <BigLove> ikonia: It's teh broke, heh
[18:19] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: thats a known issue that adobe have changed the download location
[18:19] <racarter> gnutron, i don't understand what you're telling me. i installed esound, set to default, and asoundconf list tells me i have one soundcard (Intel)
[18:19] <BigLove> ikonia: so yeah, having to find alternative methods. :(
[18:19] <Nutt718> jdolan - that command does not display the chipset.
[18:19] <racarter> gnutron, not sure how i am supposed to set the default
[18:19] <ikonia> BigLove: not sure how mac handles booting from external devices
[18:19] <BigLove> ikonia: I've tried a usb install, but macbooks apparently have problems with that as well
[18:19] <rathel> I'm running Fluxbox, I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I know it works because I can do xset dpms force off and it shuts my monitors off.
[18:19] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: So it's a known issue but no one's fixed it? "Yeah I know the toilet flushes backwards, it's a known issue..."
[18:19] <racarter> what is fluxbox?
[18:19] <gnutron> racarter: if you only have onboard sound its set.
[18:19] <l337ingDisorder> "We just wear gumboots"
[18:19] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: ubuntu can't fix it, adobe can
[18:20] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: it is being worked on
[18:20] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: I seeee
[18:20] <racarter> ok thanks, the one i have doesn't work btw
[18:20] <craxpt> straight boot, no error message; typing boot, i get Error 8: KErnel must be loaded before booting; typing kernetl /ubuntu/winboot/wubilfr.mbr i get a successful linux image loaded; typing boot afterwards, system hangs
[18:20] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: So in the meantime there's no way to get flash working with firefox?
[18:20] <ikonia> BigLove: without knowing how it handles external booting I couldn't comment, can you boot anything else, say a windows cd ?
[18:20] <xorlim> what errors were fixed in 8.10 as opposed to 8.04?
[18:20] <BigLove> ikonia: Hm. lemme try that :D
[18:20] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: you can manually try io install the 10 version, or see if there is a fix package in the backports repo yet
[18:20] <BigLove> brb
[18:21] <thinkk_linuxx> hello every1
[18:21] <stapel> I'm looking for a proxy switcher utility for ubuntu
[18:21] <thinkk_linuxx> is the version 8.10 stable?
[18:21] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: would there be a CLI one-liner I could try for the backport repo? I have that repo in my sources.list already
[18:21] <kalakouentin> yes
[18:21] <smokewon> hey there im trying to get my web camera working its a DSE web cam(model: XH5096) i got the drivers from this site: http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/download.html#ov51x but when i try compile it i get this: http://rafb.net/p/tbciAc17.html whats going on???
[18:21] <Nutt718> jdolan, essentially, have ubuntu installed but need to install linux drivers for a gateway mt6723
[18:21] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: make sure it's not commented out
[18:21] <l337ingDisorder> thinkk_linuxx: 8.10 is stable but still crashy for many people
[18:22] <ikonia> stapel: just switch the proxy in the applications you want to use
[18:22] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: thats nonsense,
[18:22] <gnutron> racarter: right click the volume icon, preferences should say intel, open the volume controls and toggle switches, it worked for me.
[18:22] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: Very crashy for many people
[18:22] <Nutt718> jdolan, to enable the NIC card and wireless card
[18:22] <thinkk_linuxx> l337indDisorder: is it worth updrading?
[18:22] <jrhigh> guys
[18:22] <jrhigh> i need some help
[18:22] <jrhigh> how do i connect to the ubuntu channel #politics
[18:22] <jrhigh> i'm connected to freenode
[18:22] <ikonia> thinkk_linuxx: depends on your need
[18:22] <ikonia> jrhigh: that not an ubuntu channel
[18:22] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: not commented out
[18:22] <jrhigh> but i'm on windows and trying to the connect to the ubuntu #politics channel
[18:23] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: uncomment it and run apt-get update
[18:23] <jrhigh> yes it is
[18:23] <ikonia> jrhigh: there is no ubuntu politics channel
[18:23] <jrhigh> are u sure
[18:23] <ikonia> jrhigh: %100
[18:23] <xorlim>  why is the login screen now "small" in 8.10 as opposed to "normal size" in 8.04?
[18:23] <l337ingDisorder> thinkk_linuxx: If I were you I'd create a new partition to test it on
[18:23] <diffred> damn .chm files!!!!!!!!!!! how the hell I print the hole books in this format
[18:23] <diffred> s/hole/whole
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > diffred
[18:23] <thinkk_linuxx> ikonia: what does the new version have more?
[18:23] <ikonia> thinkk_linuxx: few updates,
[18:24] <smokewon> hey there im trying to get my web camera working its a DSE web cam(model: XH5096) i got the drivers from this site: http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/download.html#ov51x but when i try compile it i get this: http://rafb.net/p/tbciAc17.html whats going on???
[18:24] <l337ingDisorder> thinkk_linuxx: If you can install it and get it configured so it's exactly the way you want it, and you can reboot/log-out/suspend etc without any crashing then you're good to go and can delete the old 8.04 partition (though I'd still recommend keeping the 8.04 partition as a fallout shelter)
[18:24] <racarter> gnutron, yeah it says HDA Intel (Alsa mixer) but doesn't seem to work for me
[18:24] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: I think you misread me... It's currently _not_ commented out (the backports repo)
[18:24] <racarter> i am looking at this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829612001
[18:24] <thinkk_linuxx> l337indDisorder: alright ill try that...thbanks
[18:24] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: then it's enabled
[18:24] <NastyGuns> hello... can anyone help with bittorrent on 7.10?
[18:24] <racarter> no idea if this is linux compatible
[18:24] <BigLove> ikonia: Nope. Same problem. Win disk is good though. it's gotta be something wrong with the way mac's handle external drives
[18:24] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: ah okay so it would be the same apt-line then?
[18:25] <ikonia> BigLove: sounds sensible
[18:25] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: yes
[18:25] <Nutt718> can anyone tell me where to find drivers for a gateway mt6723
[18:25] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: in other words the manual install is the only option.. and that's not an option because they only have a 32-bit version of the source available
[18:25] <BigLove> ikonia: Well, that sucks -_- was trying to avoid having to deal with sending it off, heh heh
[18:25] <Nutt718> specifically NIC and wireless
[18:25] <Andry> hey guys, do yuo know if I can read DVDs burned under windows with UDF filesystem?
[18:25] <gnutron> racarter: open volume controls, play with the controls and switches
[18:25] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: on the 64bit version it installs the 32bit package
[18:25] <BigLove> ikonia: Thanks for the troubleshooting between you and nibbler though :D much appreciated guys
[18:25] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: there is no source package, it's closed source
[18:26] <racarter> ??
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Andry Wrong channel for WIndows questions
[18:26] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: Tried that, it said the architecture was unsupported when I tried to run the .deb
[18:26] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: where did you download a deb from ?
[18:26] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: well ok, not 'source' then inasmuch as the .tar.gz
[18:26] <Andry> Jack_Sparrow: I wanted to know if I can read it under ubuntu
[18:26] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: adobe.com
[18:26] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: yes, and thats teh same one that is installed on the 64bit
[18:26] <racarter> gnutron, i have played with the volume controls and switches.. i think i can keep myself entertained that way for only so long
[18:26] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: you don't download a deb,
[18:27] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: tried the .deb, tried the .tar.gz
[18:27] <zsquareplusc> Andry: you probable need udf-utils or a similar package
[18:27] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: how did you try the tar ?
[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Andry k
[18:27] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: both failed due to wrong architecture
[18:27] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: actually - never mind, you probably haven't setup the 32bit compatability libraries
[18:27] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: untarred it and ran the script inside
[18:27] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: not that simple
[18:27] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: aha that sounds like something that would be greatly useful
[18:27] <gnutron> racarter: right click the volume icon,  open the volume controls select preferences, toggle tracks to be visable
[18:28] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: where are these compatability libraries you speak of? :)
[18:28] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: in the repo
[18:28] <l337ingDisorder> and is there any reason I might not want to install said libraries? (if not, why aren't they native? heh)
[18:28] <mib_3lwwql> hi
[18:28] <mib_3lwwql> hi when i boot ubuntu for the first time using the live cd, all goes well but it asks me to login. i have never installed ubuntu on this computer before and i have no idea what the username and password combo is.....
[18:28] <Andry> can I burn a 4 GB file with ubuntu with other filesystems?
[18:28] <alex_mayorga> is there a specific channel were I can get help with X problems?
[18:28] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: they are not installed by default as not everyone needs them
[18:28] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: so 'apt-get install 32-bit-compatability-libraries' ?
[18:28] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: the livecd will not ask you to log in
[18:28] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: where did you get the livecd from
[18:29] <ikonia> l337ingDisorder: no, search the repos for compat
[18:29] <ikonia> alex_mayorga: #xorg
[18:29] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: ubuntu.com from the MIT mirror
[18:29] <racarter> gnutron.. i have selected all options and turned everything up to the max
[18:29] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: aha, thanks :)
[18:29] <racarter> if my sound should work someday, i will probably go deaf
[18:29] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make this permanent gnome-terminal --geometry=75x25+350+205?
[18:29] <mib_3lwwql> it is asking me to login i am very confused
[18:29] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: where did you get the cd from
[18:29] <gnutron> racarter: try switches
[18:29] <Gnuggets> hey guys
[18:29] <racarter> what?
[18:29] <Tefx> hye does any one in here no abotu how to set up nameservers and the lieks properly??
[18:29] <Gnuggets> first day on linux how are you?
[18:29] <zsquareplusc> l337ingDisorder: ia32-libs
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql the live cd from ubuntu does not ask for user name and pass for live session..
[18:30] <Tefx> cos bind is jsut liek ahh confusign to me
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: it's a blank cd
[18:30] <racarter> gnutron, what switches?
[18:30] <stefg> mib_3lwwql: so you're on a Live-CD, right?
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> *dvd
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> yes stefg
[18:30] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: then you can't be booting from the DVD if it's blank
[18:30] <Andry> I need to burn a 4GB file onto a DVD with winXP and I want to be able to read it under Ubuntu as well
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> it isn't blank...
[18:30] <l337ingDisorder> zsquareplusc: ahhh thanks, that'll save a looooot of time ;)
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> i burned the iso to it
[18:30] <racarter> gnutron, i selected all the checkboxes in volume control preferences if that's what you mean
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> and it works perfectly except it asks me to login
[18:30] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql:where did you get the iso
[18:30] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: ubuntu.com from  the mit mirror
[18:31] <Gnuggets> could anyone tell me how to go about in installing my invidia drivers?
[18:31] <stefg> mib_3lwwql: and you installed from that dvd, but was not asked f to set a usernam or password ?
[18:31] <smokewon> hey there im trying to get my web camera working its a DSE web cam(model: XH5096) i got the drivers from this site: http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/download.html#ov51x but when i try compile it i get this: http://rafb.net/p/tbciAc17.html whats going on???
[18:31] <l337ingDisorder> ikonia: ok it seems I already have the latest ia32-libs installed
[18:31] <Tefx> mib_3lwwql, did u burn it at a low speed ???
[18:31] <ardchoille> !nvidia | Gnuggets
[18:31] <mib_3lwwql> yes stefg
[18:31] <Gnuggets> yes ardchoille key stroke error
[18:31] <mib_3lwwql> Tefx: yes!!!
[18:31] <recon69> ﻿mib_3lwwql: did you burn it as an iso image?
[18:31] <mib_3lwwql> 4X
[18:31] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: do you get a boot menu asking you what you want to do ?
[18:31] <hippopota> fireox about:config any experts??
[18:31] <psycardis> Is it possible to make a custom keyboard shortcut using the escape key?
[18:31] <Gnuggets> i downloaded them from nvidia for my driver it went to the desktop
[18:31] <Gnuggets> however i cant figure how to install it
[18:31] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: when you first boot from the cd, before the desktop loads
[18:32] <mib_3lwwql> yes recon69 otherwise i woulnt get anything at all
[18:32] <ikonia> Gnuggets: why are you not using the ones ubuntu provides through the driver manager ?
[18:32] <NewtuUbuntu> Hi there, does anyone know why my restricted packages would stop working regularly without me changing anything? Almost every day I get on my computer mp3's and such will stop playing and I have to re-download the restricted packages. Right now that's not even working. Any ideas?
[18:32] <Gnuggets> they make my refresh rate 50 and my screen resolution so small
[18:32] <gnutron> racarter: try muting auxiliary
[18:32] <recon69> ﻿mib_3lwwql: and is your computer set to boot from cd ?
[18:32] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: i am sorry, i don't understand your question. i booted it for the first time 5 minutes ago
[18:32] <mib_3lwwql> recon69: it boots from the cd fine.
[18:32] <Tefx> right hand on form what im gettin mib_3lwwql  you have installed it from the lvie cd the lvie cd boots and logs in fine but uveinstalled it to your system and its now askign you for a log in which u dotn renember settign when u installed correct
[18:32] <rathel> I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything, I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[18:33] <ikonia> mib_3lwwql: when you first put the cD in and boot, you should get a menu that asks you to boot from the cd, boot from the hard disk, run a disk check, etc etc with an ubuntu logo, do you get that
[18:33] <stefg> mib_3lwwql: then something went wrong., the install is probably broken. you can try to boot into resuce mode, where you have the chance to drop to a root shell (without givng a password). you can then add a user from the shell witz the 'adduser' command
[18:33] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make this permanent gnome-terminal --geometry=75x25+350+205?
[18:33] <recon69> ﻿mib_3lwwql: so you get a menu asking you what you want to do , try ubuntu liveCD, install , test cd , test memory
[18:33] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: i got that, incorrect Tefx
[18:33] <Tefx> ahh oky
[18:33] <Gnuggets> boy for first time using this it is very confusing however when i browse the internet its so much faster
[18:33] <Tefx> i jsut mis read somthign ithink then
[18:33] <mib_3lwwql> i never installed ubuntu
[18:33] <mib_3lwwql> i am booting the live cd
[18:33] <racarter> gnutron, don't see an option for auxillary
[18:34]  * Tefx binds confusign the hell out of me
[18:34] <stefg> mib_3lwwql: how much ram does that box have ?
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> ikonia: i choose to boot without it harming my comuter(the first option)
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> stefg: 1gig
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql did you do the self test?
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> no
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> i should prbably do that
[18:34] <MindVirus> When are we getting Py3k?
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> 1 sec
[18:34] <mib_3lwwql> brb
[18:34] <psycardis> Pirate_Hunter open the terminal click edit, profiles and create a new profile.
[18:34] <stefg> mib_3lwwql: probably there's a problem with the DVD
[18:34] <Tefx> Jack_Sparrow,  do u no anythign abotu bind and nameserver mx records and the liek
[18:35] <xorlim> how do I get the correct resolution for my system during the login screen?
[18:35] <psycardis> Pirate_Hunter when you have it as you like make it the default.
[18:35] <Tefx> cos its confusign the hell otua me and u seem to be pritty well knolaged in the area of servers
[18:35] <Pirate_Hunter> psycardis: i need it with those geometries
[18:35] <gnutron> racarter: you havent made all controls visable
[18:35] <bpat1434> whomever answered my question, can you repost?
[18:36] <jereth> hello
[18:36] <racarter> gnutron, there are no more checkboxes to select...
[18:36] <Susie> How can I find out what specific graphics card driver I am using on my computer? My xorg.conf does not say...
[18:36] <dan1el_> What do I do when I dont got any sound?
[18:36] <benc123> h
[18:36] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i make this permanent gnome-terminal --geometry=75x25+350+205?
[18:36] <mib_3lwwql> ubuntu is checking the cd for it's "integrity"
[18:36] <Killer--Tux> need help setting up ftp
[18:37] <jereth> if anyone is avalable to assist me with a simple matter id be grateul
[18:37]  * ElTimo adds to the storm of support questions
[18:37] <psycardis> Pirate_hunter: sorry about that, I didn't look through all the settings, I would just click on system main menu and change the shortcut associated with the terminal
[18:37] <Killer--Tux> i was using gporftp and i want to re install it
[18:37] <Killer--Tux> but i dont get the gui
[18:37] <ElTimo> how do I get the v4l-dvb drivers working on intrepid?
[18:37] <mib_3lwwql> ok i did the check
[18:38] <mib_3lwwql> there where 2 errors found n 2 files
[18:38] <bpat1434> I'm running ubuntu 8.04.1 and trying to upgrade to 8.10.  Running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" returns nothing to upgrade.  any idesa?
[18:38] <mib_3lwwql> or there where 2 erroes found
[18:38] <Pirate_Hunter> psycardis: huh i tried adding that to preffered apps under system but terminal still come up large, how do i set it to come up everytime with those parameters
[18:38] <mib_3lwwql> i have been trying to get ubuntu to work forever and it never works there is aways a problem
[18:38] <ElTimo> I know they're compiled into the kernel now, but my cam isn't supported by default so I have to install a patched version
[18:38] <mib_3lwwql> is there any way i can fix these errors using nano or something?
[18:38] <mosahin> Need help with graphic drivers. Just ran the Achilles Life Simulator and the pc locked up. When I restarted the drivers were gone. Now I am on 800x600 resolution. Anyone have any ideas?
[18:38] <xorlim> bpat1434: update-manager -d I think.
[18:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql It is NOT ubuntu's fault that you dont have a good burn or download
[18:39] <toader_> Hi, Since i upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10,  my keyboard input always r frozen in the application like eclipse, and Konsole. I almost cannot continue my work. But previous Ubuntu 8.04, there is no this problem. Could anybody know why?
[18:39] <NewtuUbuntu> Anyone have any ideas why my restricted packages would stop working every few days? I will be able to play mp3's one day, then the next day it won't work. Please help.
[18:39] <gnutron> racarter: i give up, set system - preferences - sound to autodetect instead of alsa
[18:39] <mib_3lwwql> well ok but how can i fix the errors
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql No, you cant fix errors on a dvd with nano
[18:39] <Pirate_Hunter> psycardis: np i think i got what u meant or maybe not but i figured it out at least for my desktop link
[18:39] <mib_3lwwql> ok well thanks anyway everyone
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql md5 our *.iso to begin with
[18:39] <bpat1434> xorlim, update-manager is not found/known
[18:39] <jereth> i installed ubuntu into my computer using the install as a progam option, i stuck it on my big hard drive and when i boot to it it cat mount that drive but will find the c  (windows drive)
[18:39] <mib_3lwwql> btw can i get a free dvd with ubuntu on it from ubuntu?
[18:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_3lwwql no
[18:40] <xorlim> bpat1434: sudo apt-get install update-manager
[18:40] <Jack_Sparrow> only cd's are free
[18:40] <mib_3lwwql> ok jack 1 min please
[18:40] <bpat1434> xorlim, I'm running without gnome though....
[18:40] <ElTimo> jereth: I think you have to run it from inside windows
[18:40] <toader_> hi, could anybody know about keyboard frozen in Ubuntu 8.10?
[18:40] <Gnuggets> so the driver download i downloaded if i go to system admit and hardware driver should automaticly install it when i enable driver?
[18:40] <Susie> How can I find out what specific graphics card driver I am using on my computer? My xorg.conf does not say...
[18:40] <mib_3lwwql> thanks everyon
[18:40] <toader_> Hi, Since i upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10,  my keyboard input always r frozen in the application like eclipse, and Konsole. I almost cannot continue my work. But previous Ubuntu 8.04, there is no this problem. Could anybody know why?
[18:41] <et32273> Susie: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <ElTimo> how do I get the v4l-dvb drivers working on intrepid? I know they're compiled into the kernel now, but my cam isn't supported by default so I have to install a patched version
[18:41] <jereth> it wont run from withing windows but duel boots happily i just cat see my data
[18:42] <sonny> WOW
[18:42] <ElTimo> jereth: that's weird
[18:42] <NewtuUbuntu> et32273 would you have any idea why my mp3's won't play anymore? I installed the restricted packages, they worked, then they stopped working randomly.
[18:42] <sonny> 这里有中国人么？
[18:42] <dan1el_> i dont have any sound after i installed ubuntu. what should I do now?
[18:42] <hateball> !jp | sonny
[18:42] <jereth> yea :(  hy hdds are c: for the windows and z;big bastard or the 500 gig data drive
[18:42] <Susie> et32272: Thanks, I think I figured it out...
[18:42] <et32273> NewtuUbuntu: why do you ask me?
[18:43] <sonny> ....chinese
[18:43] <psycardis> Pirate_Hunter: Click system, preferences, main menu, click accessories on the left, double-click terminal on the right, change the command to gnome-terminal --geometry=75x25+350+205 click close click close. click system prefrences, click preferred applications, click system, click custom in the drop down menu make the command gnome-terminal --geometry=75x25+350+205 click close
[18:43] <hateball> !cn | sonny  :)
[18:43] <zsquareplusc> jereth: check if thee is a /host/ folder and if is that what you are looking for :-)
[18:43] <hateball> sonnyⅅ Sorry, hard for me to tell ;)
[18:43] <jereth> ok
[18:43] <NewtuUbuntu> et32273 because you just helped someone else, i figured perhaps you are knowledgable. I've been asking my question for a while now and no one has been able to reply yet.
[18:43] <psycardis> Is it possible to make a custom keyboard shortcut using the escape key?
[18:43] <bpat1434> xorlim, found it.... had to change "lts" to "normal" in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[18:43] <Pirate_Hunter> psycardis: ty, very much appreciated
[18:43] <jereth> brb
[18:44] <psycardis> Pirate_Hunter: np
[18:44] <et32273> NewtuUbuntu: i don't use standard gnome or kde media players. i use mplayer which can play mp3 and many other formats.
[18:44] <NewtuUbuntu> et32273 MPlayer is what I'm using as well, in fact I have two versions, Gnome M Player and just M Player, but neither of them are working.
[18:45] <zsquareplusc> NewtuUbuntu: maybe your sound is just muted?
[18:45] <Spasysheep> 8.04 - which packages conflict with flashplugin-nonfree?
[18:45] <NewtuUbuntu> zsquareplusc i've checked, it is not muted.
[18:45] <jrhigh> vlc
[18:45] <mali[x]> hello
[18:45] <Aval0n> hey has there been any ability to play bluray disc direct off CD yet?
[18:46] <Aval0n> without having to rip to the Hard drive/
[18:46] <zsquareplusc> NewtuUbuntu: if you want to have multiple applications playing, use pulseaudio as output. otherwise only one app at the time can play audio
[18:46] <isle85> Hi, I can't make my Brother (a wifi printer/scaner/) to be seen by my laptop . I can print with it, no problemo . This printer has its own IP address to be seen by my whole network
[18:46] <NewtuUbuntu> zsquareplusc the odd thing is, youtube videos will play fine, so i know it's not my overall sound, just mp3 files and the like
[18:46] <et32273> NewtuUbuntu: and i don't even use gnome or kde as desktop enviroment, so no pulse audio. just plain alsa.
[18:46] <NewtuUbuntu> zsquareplusc hmm, i don't think that's the problem either, i don't have any other programs attempting to play sounds right now
[18:47] <zsquareplusc> NewtuUbuntu: the flash plugin is maybe not using pulseaudio, i dont know
[18:47] <Spasysheep> et32273 - try: sudo alsamixer
[18:47] <ElTimo> can someone help me with my gspca drivers?
[18:47] <toader_> Hi, Since i upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10,  my keyboard input always r frozen in the application like eclipse, and Konsole. I almost cannot continue my work. But previous Ubuntu 8.04, there is no this problem. Could anybody know why?
[18:47] <et32273> Spasysheep: i dont have sound problems
[18:47] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep i'm the one with the sound problems
[18:47] <massiterun> hello to everybody
[18:47] <Spasysheep> et32273, NewtuUbuntu - sorry, misread posts / names
[18:47] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep for some reason i can't play mp3's even though i got it working by downloading the restricted packages, it stopped working suddenly for no apparent reason
[18:48] <thomas__> hello!
[18:48] <sonny> hello
[18:48] <provo1> hi
[18:48] <sonny> hi
[18:48] <jereth> thank you very much i didnt see it before ;)
[18:48] <Guest85018> hello ubu guys
[18:48] <provo1> wow
[18:48] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu - i had a similar problem recently, is there more than one sound device on your system?
[18:48] <provo1> they dont even mask your ip on freenode?
[18:48] <provo1> sucks
[18:49] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep what do you mean by sound device? i do have headphones and speakers if that's what you're referring to.
[18:49] <jrib> !cloak | provo1
[18:49] <thomas__> can anybody help me with a filesystem problem (root is always read only) on a server?
[18:49] <provo1> ubottu: thanks!
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> provo1 Please watch the language... and tone..  You can cloak if you feel the need
[18:49] <inzi85> hi.. skype doesn't work properly on ubuntu for me...i can hear my voice through the speakers but my friend doesnt recieve anything
[18:49] <jereth> whoever it was that told me where to look me and my anime thank you
[18:49] <provo1> sorry for my tone
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> provo1 np
[18:50] <toader_> Hi, Since i upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10,  my keyboard input always r frozen in the application like eclipse, and Konsole. I almost cannot continue my work. But previous Ubuntu 8.04, there is no this problem. Could anybody know why?
[18:50] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu - i mean soundcards - im guessing that you have onboard sound, do you also have a separate soundcard installed?
[18:50] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep i'm not sure, is there some way i can check that?
[18:50] <Susie> I am thinking about getting a VGA to S-video adapter so I can clone my desktop to a TV. I read a lot of reviews that say these types of cables don't work most of the time. Is this true?
[18:51] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu - um, hang on a mo
[18:51] <NewtuUbuntu> ok
[18:51] <xorlim> Jack_Sparrow: what is "cloak"?
[18:51] <medoctron> Susie: I think it depends on your configuration and what a tv you want to use
[18:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !cloak > xorlim
[18:52] <pretorian> hi
[18:52] <giuseppe_> hi all, during boot appears "Activatinf swapfile ... FAILED - What can I do?
[18:52] <onetinsoldier> toader_: i might know how to fix it. however, it's only a guess and it's kind of drastic, and it might not help at all
[18:53] <Susie> medoctron: I'm checking right now to see if my graphics card supports TV-out. I'm fairly certain it does...
[18:53] <Out_Cold> grr... i bought a second hand dsl modem... and it's not working out of the box.. anyone know how to get the mac address off of it?
[18:53] <tspike> I'm trying to stop sendmail from starting at boot time using chkconfig, but when I run it, I get this output: http://pastie.org/338974... any ideas?
[18:53] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu - open a terminal, run cd /proc/asound then ls
[18:53] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu - whats the output?
[18:53] <sonny> There are Chinese friends what?
[18:53] <provo1> this is going to take some getting use to
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn
[18:54] <Gnea> Susie: one thing about S-Video, is that it's a hog when it comes to transmission... in other words, it wants to be the only medium to carry video to a device, it won't share with another. So you can only have the output displayed on either your laptop display or the TV, but not at the same time.
[18:54] <provo1> is there an irc client as robust and easy as mirc?
[18:54] <sonny> thanks
[18:54] <xorlim> provo1: xchat?
[18:54] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep card0 and card1
[18:54] <Slart> provo1: xchat is probably the closest
[18:54] <onetinsoldier> toader_: i might know how to fix it. however, it's only a guess and it's kind of drastic. since it's a guess, it might not fix it at all
[18:54] <giuseppe_> during boot phase it appears "Activatinf swapfile ... FAILED - What can I do?
[18:54] <Gnuggets> Error nvidia-installer must be ran as root?
[18:54] <Out_Cold> provo1, go xchat... not xchat-gnome
[18:54] <Slart> provo1: or you can run mIRC in wine if you really must
[18:54] <xorlim> I use irssi because it's like ircii from the '90's.
[18:54] <Susie> Gnea: I did not know that. If I used RCA (I believe that's the red, yellow, and white, correct?) would that be better?
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> provo1 we try to avoid discussions about what is best...  but xchat, or kvirc are well thought of
[18:54] <provo1> oic, thanks for the advice slart
[18:55] <TriBeCa> soooo
[18:55] <tspike> Anyone?
[18:55] <Slart> provo1: you're welcome
[18:55] <giuseppe_> anyone?
[18:55] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: ok you have two soundcards on your system, same as me, now lets see if i can remember how to disable one
[18:55] <Slart> tspike: I can't be bothered to go back and search for your original question in the backlog.. can't you just repeat it?
[18:55] <TriBeCa> i just did a new install, and now my system sits with a flashing '_' immediately after post
[18:55] <tspike> Slart: I'm trying to stop sendmail from starting at boot time using chkconfig, but when I run it, I get this output: http://pastie.org/338974... any ideas?
[18:55] <TriBeCa> hard drive is set as a boot device in bios
[18:55] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep thank you for your help thus far, I really appreciate it
[18:56] <giuseppe_> anyone?
[18:56] <Gnea> Susie: that depends on the source. yes, RCA is the correct term.
[18:56] <tspike> Slart: I assumed it was bad form to constantly repeat questions
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > giuseppe_
[18:56] <toader_> onetinsoldier: could u tell me
[18:56] <bthompson> anybody have an experience with installing linux to a flash drive
[18:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[18:56] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: thats ok :). By disabling one soundcard, all sound will play through the other
[18:56] <Slart> tspike: nah.. as long as you don't repeat too often.. once every 5 minutes is enough... just saying "anyone?" out of nowhere will just annoy people..
[18:57] <sonny> Good lively here
[18:57] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: can you get at the back of your pc?
[18:57] <tspike> Slart: fair enough
[18:57] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep if necessary, what would you like me to do?
[18:57] <onetinsoldier> toader_: ok, sure. it seems that you are using the kde environment. is that correct?
[18:57] <provo1> !selinux
[18:57] <Susie> Gnea: Well, as I was saying, I was hoping to get an adapter cable, so something like a VGA to RCA cable, but I read that these often don't work...
[18:57] <nomike> hi!
[18:57] <giuseppe_> you are right... escuse me... I'll be waiting for... Thanks in advance! :-)
[18:57] <Slart> tspike: I haven't messed with either sendmail or chkconfig so I have no idea how to fix that
[18:57] <nomike> I have a problem with WLAN with one of my pc's.
[18:57] <tspike> Slart: :/ Google is pretty sparse for this issue
[18:58] <toader_> onetinsoldier: no, it is gnome
[18:58] <saxin> Hello. Will GeForce 9800GTX be supported in Ubuntu 8.10? Anything I should be aware of?
[18:58] <medoctron> Susie: what a graphics card do you use? and what connection possibilities does it have?
[18:58] <Gnea> Susie: It may or may not work, so yeah, it's a gamble.  What TV are you trying to hook up to?
[18:58] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: look at where the audio cables are plugged in - are they near the keyboard and mouse plugs, or are they lower down running in a horizontal row (I'm assuming your pc is a tower)
[18:58] <Susie> Gnea: Well, it's just an average crt TV.
[18:59] <Slart> saxin: check the nvidia linux site and see what versions of their driver support the 9800gtx.. then check what version is in the ubuntu repos
[18:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Susie you can check our supported hardware page
[18:59] <onetinsoldier> toader_: oh.. i see.. but you are usingsome kde stuff? you mentioned Konsole, which is a kde thing
[18:59] <Slart> saxin: I think it's supported.. but I'm not entirely sure.. myself I have a 8800gtx which works nicely
[18:59] <Karn> is there any way to get networking up and running after apt-get remove network-manager ? I was going to install wicd but forgot I needed network to install it :)
[18:59] <craxpt> can any1 help me with an errors in wubi?? straight boot, no error message and just drops me in grub4dos prompt; typing boot, i get Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting; typing kernel /ubuntu/winboot/wubilfr.mbr i get a successful linux image loaded; typing boot afterwards, system hangs
[18:59] <Susie> medoctron: I'm using an Intel graphics card. There is a VGA port (on my computer), and I think I'll have better luck with that than the S-Video port
[18:59] <toader_> onetinsoldier: yes, i have install konsole
[18:59] <Slart> Karn: can't you just install it from the live cd?
[18:59] <n8tuser> Karn-> you have access to the internet now dont you?
[19:00] <Karn> on my main pc yeah
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> craxpt Please read the wubi faq page, I wont use, recommend nor support it
[19:00] <toader_> onetinsoldier: but my eclipse is alwyas frozen also
[19:00] <Karn> Slart, I installed off a usb stick
[19:00] <dnyy> So I need compiz to have emerald running?
[19:00] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep the speakers and headphones are plugged into a row of 3 slots running sideways that are a ways below the USB and keyboard slots
[19:00] <Karn> Slart, and I don't have a cdrom drive (eee 901)
[19:00] <Slart> Karn: download the live cd and burn it from the computer you're on now?
[19:00] <dnyy> Do*
[19:00] <Slart> Karn: ngh.. that makes it much harder =/
[19:00] <onetinsoldier> toader_: first, you will probably want to shut down X before doing this.. ok? anyway, after shutting down gdm with invoke-rc.d gdm stop  ...in your home directory... delete all your .gnome and .kde dirs
[19:01] <medoctron> Susie: But don't you have a s-video to Cinch converter with your card? That was a config that worked on 2 different TVs for me, but on one older tv it doesnt work
[19:01] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: ok so you are using a separate soundcard rather than the one built into the mainboard
[19:01] <onetinsoldier> toader_: and delete dirs like....  .gvfs and .qt
[19:01] <Susie> medoctron: I don't know what an s-video to Cinch converter is...
[19:02] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep i suppose that's probably the case, yes
[19:02] <n8tuser> Karn-> are you booted up on the new install?
[19:02] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep although, i will note that the place the speakers is plugged in is on the same metal block as the usb and all the other stuff
[19:02] <toader_> onetinsoldier: what does mean "after shutting down gdm with invoke-rc.d gdm stop"
[19:02] <onetinsoldier> toader_: again, kind of drastic, but it might fix your problem
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> toader_: it means shutting down your window manager AND your display manager
[19:03] <sonny> 日本、お持ちの
[19:03] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: hang on, you said  "the speakers and headphones are plugged into a row of 3 slots running sideways that are a ways below the USB and keyboard slots", and then that the speakers are plugged in near the usb?
[19:04] <Slart> Karn: by the way.. what kind of internet connection are you using?
[19:04] <Slart> Karn: if it's a simple wire connection it's probably easier to just config it and be done with it
[19:04] <medoctron> Susie: give me a moment...
[19:04]  * Sushil has left this server ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org").
[19:04] <Susie> medoctron: okay
[19:05] <NewtuUbuntu> spasysheep i'm sorry for the poor communication. basically what i'm saying is that the slots they are plugged into are on the same large metal rectangle as the usb slots and the keyboard/mouse slots, however, they are at the very bottom of that piece of metal. they are not completely separate, though, so I'm not sure what that means, perhaps they are plugged into the motherboard? The only other place I see to plug things in is
[19:05] <NewtuUbuntu>  the place where my printer cable is plugged in.
[19:05] <Sushil> /leave *whatever
[19:05] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: ok so you are in fact using onboard sound card then
[19:06] <NewtuUbuntu> spassysheep ha ha, sorry once again, that's not my printer cable that's my monitor cable
[19:06] <onetinsoldier> toader_: if you do it... delete the following..  .config .dbus .gconf .gconfd .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gvfs .qt and .kde and .mcop stuff
[19:06] <Spasysheep> NewtuUbuntu: run less /proc/asound/modules in a terminal - whats the output?
[19:06] <medoctron> Susie: can i qry you?
[19:07] <NewtuUbuntu>  0 snd_intel8x0
[19:07] <NewtuUbuntu>  1 snd_mpu401
[19:07] <lianimator> how do I start a program (gimp) so that it uses 100% CPU, of a dual core cpu?
[19:07] <Susie> medoctron: I'm sorry. What does that mean?
[19:07] <onetinsoldier> toader_: and anything else that looks to be gnome or kde related that starts with a  .
[19:07] <Karn> Slart, I'm using Wireless
[19:07] <jrib> lianimator: that doesn't really make much sense to me
[19:07] <Slart> Karn: ah.. nevermind then..
[19:07] <psycardis> Is it possible to make a custom keyboard shortcut using the escape key?
[19:08] <toader_> onetinsoldier: ok, thx
[19:08] <medoctron> Susie: something like private chat
[19:08] <onetinsoldier> toader_: ok, all i can is good luck. again, i don't even know if that'll fix it
[19:08] <Karn> n8tuser, yeah i'm booted in on the laptop (no gui - removed gnome)
[19:08] <toader_> onetinsoldier: how to restart to console without starting up the X-window?
[19:08] <Jack_Sparrow> psycardis not that I am awaroe of
[19:08] <lianimator> When I do some blurring or such on gimp, it uses only 50% of the CPU. I want it to use both of the processors.
[19:08] <toader_> onetinsoldier: i will come back and tell u a moment
[19:08] <Susie> medoctron: yeah, sure, I guess
[19:09] <n8tuser> Karn-> okay np,  is it connected via ethernet on your router to the isp?
[19:09] <onetinsoldier> toader... exit your window manager(log out). go to a console only terminal(ctrl+alt+f1 for example)... then  invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[19:09] <medoctron> Susie: okay, you should see a new tab (i hope ;) )
[19:09] <jrib> lianimator: well if the algorithm isn't programmed to run in parallel you'll have a tough time doing that
[19:09] <n8tuser> Karn-> what is the ip address of your laptop?
[19:09] <lianimator> jrib: oh okay, thanks
[19:09] <onetinsoldier> toader_: to start it up again... invoke-rc.d gdm start
[19:10] <Karn> n8tuser, it doesnt have one :) it was connected over wireless but after removing network-manager it doesnt have the ra0 interface
[19:10] <jrib> lianimator: you might check with #gimp to see if it's possible or not
[19:10] <zsquareplusc> lianimator: dual core?
[19:10] <toader_> onetinsoldier: ok, see u later
[19:10] <n8tuser> Karn-> can you not connect it using an ethernet cable? thats okay too to use ethernet,
[19:11] <Karn> n8tuser, I dont have a spare port on the router (and the router is in the loft)
[19:11] <lianimator> zsquareplusc: yes.
[19:11] <giuseppe_> hi all, during boot phase I read this message "Activating swapfile swap [FAILED]" - What can I do to solve it?
[19:11] <n1lo> How Can I update to ubuntu testing ou unstable?
[19:11] <n8tuser> Karn-> do you recall which chip your wifi uses?
[19:12] <zsquareplusc> lianimator: in that case 50% means it fully uses one of the CPUs.  unfortunately many programs only use a single processor today.
[19:12] <Karn> rt2860 i think
[19:12] <Karn> its an eee 901
[19:12] <Karn> if that helps
[19:13] <track_> Hi... i'm using hardy with proview pc81001 netbook. after i upgrade the kernel from 2.6.24 to 2.6.27, my usb pen driver is not automounting anymore
[19:13] <psycardis> Is it possible to make a custom keyboard shortcut using the <Esc> key?
[19:13] <track_> can anybody help me?
[19:13] <n8tuser> Karn-> okay do this, can you post in pastebin the contents of  /etc/network/interfaces
[19:14] <giuseppe_> anyone can help me about a failed message during boot?
[19:14] <mimcpher> So I'm trying to figure out the config-less Xorg drugs.  I want to change some options for my synaptics touchpad, but I'm not sure how to set up X without breaking its fancy configless setup
[19:14] <psycardis> track_ how did you upgrade the kernel?
[19:14] <Turl> hi, I'm having a problem with brasero
[19:15] <track_> i got the .config from the intrepid linux image package
[19:15] <rambo298> i downloaded an openoffice writer labels template .otg file; what directory should it be put in?
[19:15] <track_> then i compiled a custom kernel from official 2.6.27.8 version (from kernel.org)
[19:16] <track_> the system is working well for everything but the automount
[19:16] <sYskk> hey im trying to mount a LaCie external HD... im able to read it but not write to it
[19:17] <Karn> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/d815109a
[19:17] <sYskk> probably cause it was formatted on windows
[19:17] <sYskk> anyone knows if its possible to write ntfs from linus ?
[19:17] <zsquareplusc> !ntfs
[19:17] <Turl> sYskk: it is
[19:17] <Turl> !NTFS-3g
[19:18] <n8tuser> Karn-> edit that file and add this line   iface ra0 inet dhcp;
[19:18] <n1lo> how can I use a unstable packages?
[19:18] <n8tuser> Karn-> auto ra0
[19:18] <n8tuser> Karn those are two lines added
[19:18] <Turl> anyone has prol
[19:19] <Turl> problems with brasero giving errors at the end of the disk?
[19:19] <Karn> n8tuser, ok now /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[19:19] <n8tuser> Karn-> am assuming here rt2860  will be name ra0
[19:19] <Karn> yeah
[19:19] <n8tuser> Karn-> no, try this    sudo  ifup ra0
[19:19] <track_> Hi... i'm using hardy with proview pc81001 netbook. after i upgrade the kernel from 2.6.24 to 2.6.27, my usb pen driver is not automounting anymore.
[19:19] <onetinsoldier> n1lo: there are option in synaptic to enable 'proposed updates' repos..that what you're looking for?
[19:19] <track_> can anybody help me?
[19:19] <DasEi> !ask | track
[19:19] <n1lo> onetinsoldier, I want to upgrade my ubuntu to testing or unstable.
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> n1lo: that i don't know.. so keep asking every once in a while
[19:20] <n1lo> onetinsoldier, to use programs more new.
[19:20] <Karn> n8tuser, No such device
[19:20] <DRebellion> n1lo, are you from a debian background?
[19:21] <DRebellion> n1lo, in ubuntu, the closest there is to 'unstable' or 'testing' would be the current development release, i.e. currently jaunty.
[19:21] <onetinsoldier> n1lo: i only know how to do that with plain old debian.. i don't know with ubuntu
[19:21] <n8tuser> Karn-> do this to verify if the driver is loaded,    lshw -C network  and post results in pastebin
[19:21] <zsquareplusc> n1lo: then you need to know how to fix your systems from time to time and you probably want to go to #ubuntu+1
[19:22] <_pretorian_> Hi guys!! i have a problem with xvidcap!! Can sombody help me?
[19:22] <clouder`grr> When I click on the user switcher and choose guest session all it does it ask me for my password and relogs me back into my account.  Any ideas?
[19:22] <Karn> n8tuser, i just did a modprobe rt2860sta
[19:22] <n1lo> DRebellion, +-, Years ago I used debian and ubuntu. In these years I use ArchLinux, and 2 weaks ago I try ubuntu, again.
[19:23] <n8tuser> Karn-> do this to verify if the driver is loaded,    lshw -C network  and post results in pastebin
[19:23] <DRebellion> n1lo, jaunty is pretty unstable: don't be surprised if your system trashes itself.
[19:23] <Brack10> trying to install XP sp3 on Ubuntu Intriped with Vbox 2.0.4...it hangs at 33 minutes while "installing devices".  Tried unplugging my ethernet as a few threads suggested and it still is frozen.  Anyone know what I can do?
[19:23] <Karn> n8tuser, I got it working thanks :)
[19:24] <zsquareplusc> clouder`grr: that means starting the guest session fails. i think it should run a second X server. maybe you find a /var/log/Xorg.log file for the second screen.
[19:24] <n8tuser> Karn-> you're welcome
[19:24] <n1lo> DRebellion, hm, I'll back to Archlinux. Tks. =]
[19:25] <zsquareplusc> Brack10: did you check in the #vbox channel?
[19:25] <Brack10> yeah nobody seems too interested in my problem there, zsquareplusc
[19:25] <randal> Does anyone know how to install desklets plz
[19:26] <igor47> does anyone know how to install just the dependencies for a package? or how to keep the dependencies around after the package has been removed?
[19:26] <Nutt718> how do you install a .tar.bz2 file after extracting to desktop
[19:26] <igor47> Nutt718: depends on what was in the archive. look for instructions where you got it
[19:27]  * H4U linux noob
[19:27] <DasEi> !compile | Nutt718
[19:27] <H4U> Any idea when trying to install Ubuntu it stops and goes to initramfs ??
[19:27] <H4U> I tried the text based version of Ubuntu install but after settings it says "Your installation CD-Rom could't be mounted".
[19:27] <dorkface> !zsh
[19:27] <mrwes> re
[19:27] <randal> Does anyone know how to run a script plz help
[19:27] <toader> onetinsoldier: I am back. Thank u very much. The problem is solved!!
[19:27] <nj32> Nutt718: Read README and INSTALL file in archive
[19:27] <DasEi> Nutt718: also copy the tarball to /usr/smwhere before, better
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> igor: as far as keeping stuff around after removal.. use aptitude and mark the packages as 'manually' installed rahter than automatically. m and M toggle the auto/manual marking
[19:27] <mrwes> randal: bash script?
[19:28] <mrwes> randal: sh scriptname
[19:28] <Nutt718> it's a netowrk driver from realtek.com
[19:28] <igor47> onetinsoldier: thx, lemme try that
[19:28] <randal> mrwes:  its a desklet and it has a script
[19:28] <mrwes> randal: yes
[19:28] <randal> mrwes: i was just reading it i figured it out thanks anyway
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> toader: YES! very cool.. i was hoping that would work! asthat was a somewhat drastic measure. You're Welcome!
[19:29] <toader> onetinsoldier: ya,
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> igor47: you're welcome
[19:29] <mrwes> randal: did you make is executable?
[19:29] <mrwes> er...Ok
[19:29] <DasEi> randal: apt-cache search deskllets
[19:29] <DasEi> randal: apt-cache search desklets
[19:30] <randal> mrwes: DasEi ill try that
[19:30] <mrwes> I for one, like the nautilus scripts
[19:30] <randal> DasEi: it does nothing
[19:30] <zsquareplusc> !find desklets
[19:31] <randal> DasEi:  i downloaded a desklet from gnome look and i dont know how to install it
[19:31] <RizR> got a mounted vfat drive. how do I make it writeable by all users on client side when shared using samba?
[19:31] <zsquareplusc> you shoudl find these unless you dont have universe adn multiverse repositories enabled
[19:32] <DasEi> randal: , ah, I see tarball or deb ?
[19:32] <mrwes> Just take the bash scripts and stick them in /home/bill/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and you're off
[19:32] <Threetimes> How do I enable +20DB boost for recording? It works for playback, not for recording.
[19:32] <mrwes> RizR: change the perms on the mount point
[19:32] <randal> DasEi: its a tarball
[19:32] <Gnea> Threetimes: in the mixer
[19:32] <zsquareplusc> RizR: each han has its own samba account?  if you mount the drive manually (fstab) you can add a gid, and you have to put the samba users in that group you specify
[19:33] <DasEi> !compile | randal
[19:33] <Threetimes> There is no boost in the recording tab, there is on the playback tab, but I need both
[19:33] <RizR> zsquareplusc: yes. I think i found it. suid on client side goes the trick. any better way?
[19:33] <toader> onetinsoldier: wait. my eclipse cannot accept the input again
[19:33] <SmokeyD> hey people. I changed my partition table. Everything boots normally except that the boot screen does not show completely anymore.
[19:34] <randal> DasEi: i dont unerstand what it wants me to do
[19:34] <Threetimes> in the switches tab, ther is "Mic Auto Gian", it doesn't have any effect
[19:34] <Gnea> Threetimes: okay, the boost is an overall for the mic, so once it's on, it's on. the mic only accepts input sound, it doesn't produce output sound, therefore the boost is only for recording.
[19:34] <SmokeyD> I had that before and if I remember right there was a file where I had to set the partition where the resume image resides
[19:34] <SmokeyD> which is the uuid of the swap partition
[19:34] <SmokeyD> but I forgot which file that was
[19:35] <DasEi> randal : you got to unpack and compile the tarball, first install build-essential, read the link^
[19:35] <onetinsoldier> toader: well, i'm not sure if i know how to fix the problem any further
[19:35]  * gkirk is trying to figure out why wvdial can dial modem ok, but gnomePPP can't find it
[19:35] <randal> DasEi: i dont understand what to do to compile it why do i need to compile it
[19:35] <gkirk> both are pointing to same device
[19:35] <SmokeyD> now the graphical boot screen only shows the progressbar going from left to right a couple of times and then it switches to the text version of the boot process
[19:35] <jimbecile> question: I set my resolution/refresh rate too high for my Dell 1905fp monitor and now I can't change it back
[19:35] <Gnea> Threetimes: the recording tab handles stream flows at a different level, so you don't have to worry about it - ALSA will carry the boosted sound to the recording software.
[19:35] <gkirk> and I need to set up something my mom can use
[19:35] <jimbecile> I've tried running dpkg
[19:35] <SmokeyD> which completes fine, otherwise
[19:35] <DasEi> randal: that's the way it installs
[19:35] <SmokeyD> any ideas?
[19:35] <jimbecile> and editing xorg.conf
[19:35] <zsquareplusc> gkirk: are you running them with a different user? are you in the dialout group?
[19:35] <jimbecile> with no results
[19:36] <Threetimes> Gnea: Anyway, it doesn't work. I can hear myself loud and clear when I talk into it, but in Sound Recorder I can hardly hear myself. I audacity I use +36 dB to hear myself, but with a lot of noise
[19:36] <gkirk> zsquareplusc: same user
[19:36] <randal> DasEi: why do they have to make it so complicated
[19:36] <Threetimes> Same for Skype
[19:36] <DasEi> randal: to make it suitable for diff. distros
[19:37] <Gnea> Threetimes: have you tried any other recorders?
[19:37] <zsquareplusc> gkirk: running both from the same shell?
[19:37] <mrwes> heck I remember having to compile kernels in Slackwarze
[19:37] <mrwes> heh
[19:37] <gkirk> and just checked, is in dialout group
[19:37] <gkirk> haven't tried gnomeppp from same shell
[19:37] <onetinsoldier> randal: what are you trying to compile?
[19:37] <gkirk> was clicking on it from dock
[19:38] <TJ-42> on ubuntu 8.10, I am able to get the system to recognize my bluetooth mouse.  After I restart however, it is unable to connect to or pair with the mouse.  My only option is to remove the mouse from the bluetooth devices and add it again separately.  any ideas?
[19:38] <lianimator> which web development software has auto-completion for html, javascript and css? native to Ubuntu is preferred.
[19:38] <zsquareplusc> gkirk: if you just changed the groups for your user, you might have to re-log in to make the change active
[19:38] <Threetimes> Gnea: No, what do you use?
[19:38] <mrjohnsen> Can anyone help me with BIND? I have a small lan with a BIND server, gateway server and a client. BIND runs without errors when I do a nslookup on one of the servers I get this:
[19:38] <mrjohnsen> ** server can't find gateway.bed.local.bed.local: SERVFAIL
[19:38] <randal> onetinsoldier: a desklet i got from gnome look
[19:38] <mrjohnsen> I type nslookup gateway.bed.local and it responses with bed.local.bed.local .. why?
[19:38] <gkirk> zsquareplusc: I just checked gnome-ppp log, getting a permission denied on device
[19:39] <onetinsoldier> randal: roger... i 'might' be able to help you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:39] <Gnea> Threetimes: usually audacity, but sound recorder should pick it up just fine - see if it sounds different. the problem is probably with audacity, you may need to turn up the switch on it.
[19:39] <gkirk> hmm maybe I had used sudo to run, it's been a while
[19:39] <randal> onetinsoldier: ok
[19:39] <Threetimes> Audacity and Sound Recorder are the same
[19:39] <Gnea> mrjohnsen: it's an invalid host/domain
[19:40] <zsquareplusc> mrjohnsen: do youhave your nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf? and when there is a search entry, it will also try to find your computers with that text appended to the name.
[19:40] <Gnea> Threetimes: negative, they are 2 independently written programs.
[19:40] <zsquareplusc> Gnea: .local is valid. it's used for zeroconf
[19:40] <gkirk> zsquareplusc: ah, that must have been it!
[19:41] <Threetimes> Gnea: I mean I sound the same in both programs
[19:41] <gkirk> I changed the group on the device, which was uucp
[19:41] <Gnea> zsquareplusc: not if it isn't defined in a local dns server.
[19:41] <gkirk> heh, sometimes just helps to have someone to talk through problem
[19:41] <gkirk> thankjs
[19:41] <Alex_WuP> hey I have a little problem here, if I try to log out there apears just a black screen and it is not frezed. My OS Kubuntu, laterst vesion
[19:41] <Gnea> Threetimes: and you've turned up the volume on the mic?
[19:41] <mon^rch> what's the best audio multitrack editor to use?
[19:42] <Threetimes> Gnea: Ot's on max
[19:42] <Threetimes> It's on max
[19:42] <Gnea> Threetimes: well, you can always use audacity to boost the recording later.
[19:43] <Threetimes> Too much noise, and I want it to work with skype.
[19:43] <maximus_> hey!
[19:43] <Gnea> aah
[19:43] <Gnea> !skype
[19:43] <Gnea> Threetimes: check those out ^^
[19:43] <Threetimes> I have skype and it actually works
[19:43] <iCondoulo> ok, I have a 160GB drive. I want to split it between /, /swap, and /home. I'm giving 1GB to SWAP. How much should I put towards / and /home
[19:43] <Gnea> - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[19:44] <Threetimes> But the volume is too low
[19:44] <Threetimes> that's the only problem
[19:44] <maximus_> I would like to know if it's normal to mount the swap during start of the operating system
[19:44] <Threetimes> and I want it fixed in all other programs, too
[19:44] <Gnea> Threetimes: have you tried talking louder?
[19:44] <juanez> iCondoulo: depends on your requirements, doesnt it ;)
[19:44] <mike1504> can anyone help with the following?Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_event: assertion `WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed
[19:44] <mike1504> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85278/
[19:44] <mike1504> Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_event: assertion `WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed
[19:44] <mike1504> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85278/
[19:44] <mike1504> I don't know if it is causing the extreme slowness or not.  (Ubuntu 8.04 )
[19:44] <FloodBot2> mike1504: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Threetimes> that's no real option (I tried)
[19:44] <juanez> iCondoulo: i dont see the great benefit of dividing / and /home really
[19:44] <UnknownUser57> iCondoulo,/swap == sizeof RAM * 1.5 ,/home 100gb ,/ rest
[19:45] <clouder`grr> zsquareplusc: thanks.  I was looking at the logs, didn't see anything so I decided to try it again to see if I got a newer log and it just decided to work this time.  very strange.  Thanks again though for response and eventual fix :D
[19:45] <Gnea> Threetimes: why not?
[19:45] <iCondoulo> juanez, well, if I decide to reinstall the OS, I want to keep /home
[19:45] <n8tuser> juanez-> you have not had a system fail on you? separating /home make its easy for recovery
[19:45] <iCondoulo> UnknownUser57, I've decided on 1GB SWAP because I've noticed SWAP is never in use for me.
[19:46] <zsquareplusc> iCondoulo: i have 30GB for / and its 30% filled
[19:46] <jimbecile> eh, i'll just reinstall
[19:46] <Threetimes> The rest of my family, the street, and my voice won't like it. And it doesn't help enough
[19:46] <juanez> n8tuser: well, i dont really care much about the stuff in /home i guess.. never use ;)
[19:46] <jimbecile> but it would be nice if the resolution-changing config had a failsafe that switched back if a button wasn't clicked
[19:47] <keri> I finally got my website up and goind.  With help from Seb.  Can anyone go and see it and tell me what u think and look and see if any error with comma, sounds right and spelling please please please.
[19:47] <iCondoulo> ok. thanks for the input everybody. :)
[19:47] <n8tuser> juanez-> so give a better advise for the rainy day stuff
[19:47] <zsquareplusc> iCondoulo: you don't really need swap if you haev a lot of RAM. though a few megabytes can still be helpful. however if you plan to use hibernation you need a lot of swap as the memory image is stored there
[19:47] <juanez> n8tuser: mmh
[19:47] <dragoon86> je tu niekto ?
[19:47] <kristian1> i'm trying to cd "name" into a directory with ( and ) in the name, all i get back is: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' - any thoughts?
[19:47] <dragoon86> asi ani nie čo ?
[19:48] <zsquareplusc> kristian1: \(
[19:48] <juanez> kristian1 or use quotes
[19:48] <keri>  I finally got my website up and goind.  With help from Seb.  Can anyone go and see it and tell me what u think and look and see if any error with comma, sounds right and spelling please please please.    http//cockatiels4saleinkansas.com
[19:48] <dragoon86> Niekto slovenska sa nenajde ?
[19:48] <zsquareplusc> kristian1: or use the power of TAB-key  filename completion
[19:48] <maximus_> I am having some weird boot for some days, anyone who could give me a hand ?
[19:48] <kristian1> zsquareplusc & juanez : thanks! :D
[19:49] <Gnea> Threetimes: I'm not sure then... I've always had good luck with filtering and increasing audio with audacity, so it sounds like you're just resistant to trying something new with the program.
[19:49] <Threetimes> Gnea: any idea?
[19:49] <madrid> hola
[19:49] <garryfre> I need to find the eZap program. When I type and get I and O backwards or type something stupid like Macontosh, Taser wires fly out the DVD drive and knock  me senseless till I stop doing it.
[19:50] <madrid> <adios
[19:50] <Gnea> Threetimes: if noise is a problem, then you can use the noise reduction filter and re-boost it
[19:50] <arquebus> !es
[19:50] <Threetimes> You mean in audacity? And what for skype?
[19:50] <Gnea> Threetimes: if it's skype that's your primary issue, then you'll need to play around with the settings on it some more... maybe get a better headset
[19:51] <mike1504> Keri, the website looks nice
[19:51] <Poring> Could some one give me a hand in trying to install a "proper" driver for my graphics card ?
[19:51] <Threetimes> Gnea: all headsets/microphones I have tried in my life need +20dB
[19:51] <Threetimes> and I don't see any Skype setting that can help
[19:52] <TJ-42> I'm trying to follow a guide to get my bluetooth device working, but Ubuntu 8.10 apparently does not have an /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf  -- Has this file been renamed?
[19:52] <keri> mike1504: thank you
[19:52] <Gnea> Threetimes: if it's already enabled in alsamixer, then it's enabled.
[19:52] <Gnea> Threetimes: unless you're trying to pipe sound through pulseaudio...
[19:52] <c_newbie> hi, i got error while i want to run php5-cli under my debian etch 64bit:  The server requires pcntl_fork() to work. Make sure you are running the server on a POSIX machine.
[19:52] <Scunizi> PDF > xml done with PdfEdit.. now.. what's available to load the xml file to display the original formatting?
[19:52] <garryfre> What web site do ye wish us to check out?
[19:52] <mike1504> Keri you are welcome!:)
[19:52] <NFLMVP> im trying to mount my root directory as a nfs share on another computer....when i try to mount i get mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.51:/
[19:53] <Threetimes> That can be it, I do use pulseaudio
[19:53] <Gnea> Threetimes: I have seen more problems solved by disabling it:  sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[19:53] <Threetimes> I'll try it, but is there no solution with pulseoudio?
[19:53] <mike1504> Can anyone help with this?  Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_event: assertion `WIDGET_REALIZED_FOR_EVENT (widget, event)' failed  http://paste.ubuntu.com/85278/
[19:54] <allsystemsarego> Scunizi, ipe
[19:54] <Gnea> !pulseaudio
[19:54] <Gnea> it's not really even necessary
[19:54] <nflmvp> im trying to mount my root directory as a nfs share on another computer....when i try to mount i get mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.1.51:/
[19:54] <Gnea> if anything, it's optional
[19:54] <ArrPirate> Is there a way to encrypt certain folders in ubuntu?
[19:54] <Scunizi> allsystemsarego: ipe?  I gotta laugh at some of the linux naming.. is that a program name or an acronym for a comment? :)
[19:55] <garryfre> I'm not sure, but I seem to remember you can't share the entire root directory ... it probably has security settings that over-ride it. Might try a plain directory and see how that goes.
[19:55] <allsystemsarego> Scunizi, ipe - drawing editor for creating figures in PDF or PS formats
[19:55] <DIL> keri: photgallery is white space
[19:55] <obf213> hey. ubuntu used to have a legit keyring manager where you could view stored passwords.
[19:55] <Gnea> There may be problems with getting sound from Adobe Flash v. 9 and earlier, Wine and Skype when these applications use the ALSA protocol. The sound is supposed to go through the "pulse" plugin in ALSA, that passes it to PulseAudio, where it get mixed with all other sound, and passed on to a audio interface.
[19:55] <allsystemsarego> Scunizi, pdftoipe - converts arbitrary PDF file to XML file readable by Ipe
[19:55] <Scunizi> allsystemsarego: thanks.. just looking at it now in synaptic..
[19:55] <obf213> now if i ever want to look at  password all i see is encryption what happened ot the keyreing manager?
[19:56] <Gnea> Threetimes: clearly, that says it all.
[19:56] <woli> hi
[19:56] <lubosz> hi
[19:56] <mrjohnsen> Any tips on how I can troubleshoot dns / bind for a local network? can't nslook up hosts..
[19:56] <woli> is there some kind of mac application emulator?
[19:56] <lubosz> what happened to this in intrepid? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/atlas3-base
[19:56] <dmhardison> Trying to setup a server using syslog to grab other machines logs, but I wanted to have each machines log placed into a folder according to their hostname, can someone point me in the right direction?  I've done it a while back with syslog-ng, but I'm not sure how to do the hostname thing with ubuntu's logger.
[19:57] <jhambo> Hi folks my wireless seems to periodically disconnect and after disconnecting it takes several tries to get it to reconnect.  In my dmesg I see http://paste.debian.net/23624/. Any thoughts on how I might fix this very frustrating problem?
[19:57] <malv1> anyone know why the alternate installer is telling me that the x86_64 bit kernel is incompatable with my 64-bit amd 3200 cpu?
[19:57] <keri> DIL:  working on that, need to get one up and going
[19:57] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> hii
[19:58] <Threetimes> Gnea: I have to go, but disabling pulseaudio doesn't work
[19:58] <SPF> what is the root password after installation? Installation asked me only about the user's password
[19:58] <Gnea> Threetimes: you may need to restart some things after stopping pulseaudio. good luck.
[19:58] <ikonia> SPF there is no password, you use sudo
[19:59] <Gnea> !sudo | SPF
[19:59] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: are you still there?
[19:59] <dmhardison> hmm. I suppose I can upgrade all the machines to syslog-ng, this is going to be a pain.
[20:00] <Gnea> dmhardison: syslog-ng rocks.
[20:00] <hexa-> hello
[20:00] <Gnea> dmhardison: the pain is worth it. :)
[20:00] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: yes.. i'm heere..what's up?
[20:00] <hexa-> my pulseaudio-daemon keeps dying due to its soft-cpu-limit. i am only watching a movie in totem and i tried several more, none works longer than 10 seconds
[20:00] <bthompson> kernel vmlinuz what does this mean?
[20:01] <Gnea> !server | dmhardison
[20:01] <dmhardison> Is there such a thing that will let me execute the same command among multiple machines?  I have a cluster, it would be nice if I could tell them all the remove syslog and then install syslog-ng
[20:02] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: wanted to thank you for the advice, installed ubuntu 8.10 directly from iso image via cd drive, seems to have worked...
[20:02] <SPF> ikonia: nm, modified /etc/shadow, works now
[20:02] <onetinsoldier> bthompson: might depend on where you are seeing that. pretty much means a compressed bootable linux kernel image
[20:02] <Gnea> dmhardison: i don't think so..
[20:03] <bthompson> im trying to create a persistent bootable flash drive..
[20:03] <SPF> is there a solution for simulating activesync so that internet sharing is possible with windows mobile devices?
[20:03] <ikonia> SPF: well, if you wan't to break the ubuntu security model, thats your call
[20:03] <bthompson> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar-p2
[20:03] <bthompson> was following these instructions..and get to the part to edit. the syslinux.cfg
[20:03] <Kalid> man, 1480 users!
[20:03] <ikonia> SPF: the windows mobile devices should be able to connect on ip
[20:03] <c_newbie> hi, i got error while i want to run php5-cli under my debian etch 64bit:  The server requires pcntl_fork() to work. Make sure you are running the server on a POSIX machine. anyone would help me regarding this issue? what should i do in apt-get ?
[20:03] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: cool.. very good! LjL, an op on here is the one who told me about unetbootin, so he is the one to really thank
[20:03] <ikonia> c_newbie: join #debian for debian support please
[20:04] <bthompson> i boot the drive and select start ubuntu in persistent mode and it comes up with a screen that show boot loader vmlinuz and an ok button and never boots
[20:04] <bthompson> so i am thinking this are older instructions..because im trying with 8.10
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: however, i might be a little confused by what you said ---> directly from iso image via cd drive,    via cd drive?
[20:04] <SPF> ikonia: and the other way around? I was expecting a new nic when connecting to my mobile
[20:04] <ikonia> SPF: ooh you want your mobile to act as the internet connected device
[20:05] <arthur_> i want to make a ringtone for my phone 1. is there a program that will trim .mp3's and 2. i need to save or convert it to 3g2 format for my samsung a900 ..
[20:05] <ikonia> SPF: apologies thought you wanted it the other way around
[20:05] <SPF> yes
[20:05] <jpastore> I'm trying to restore my old hdd to my new hdd I just installed in my laptop. I basically did a fresh install then rsynced everything over. grub is complaining and leaves me in  an initramfs prompt. what can I do to fix this? I tried installing grub from the old drive.
[20:05] <ikonia> SPF: there are sync programs but they are normally just that, as active sync is a bit of a black art
[20:05] <osmosis> how do I record audio in linux that is playing from a random source, like a flash applet in firefox?
[20:05] <atb101010> just installed ubuntu 8.10 but cannot seem to see any network devices installed under my network manager...any clues?
[20:06] <Susie> medoctrom: I'm back here now. Can you qry me again or whatever it was you did?
[20:06] <SPF> ikonia: what about the ability to connect through the mobile phone to the internet?
[20:06] <ikonia> SPF: depensd on the mobile phone
[20:07] <SPF> ikonia: HTC Touch Pro
[20:07] <mrjohnsen> Any tips on how I can troubleshoot dns / bind for a local network? can't nslook up hosts..
[20:07] <ikonia> SPF: if you can see it as a bluetooth modem you maybe able to
[20:07] <ikonia> SPF: I can do it with my nokia, but they are quite well supported
[20:07] <SPF> ikonia: it's connected using usb
[20:07] <ikonia> mrjohnsen: look at the dns server's logs
[20:07] <dmhardison> Is there any suggested software/way to keep all my machines software in sync with each other?
[20:08] <ikonia> dmhardison: use a local repo
[20:08] <malv1> does the 64-bit kernel work with the amd single core + series?
[20:08] <ikonia> dmhardison: or in what way do you mean in sync
[20:08] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: did you burn the .iso directly as a file to the cd rather than burn it to the cd in .iso format? is that what you meant by --> installed ubuntu 8.10 directly from iso image via cd drive,
[20:08] <ikonia> malv1: both
[20:08] <SPF> ikonia: when I connected using usb, on the mobile device it's possible to select "internet sharing"
[20:08] <ikonia> SPF: does that work ?
[20:08] <SPF> ikonia: although nothing happens on the ubuntu system
[20:08] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: meaning that i managed to install 8.10 from dvd, whereas i was not able to do that with 8.04. I did download unetbootin and created 8.04 image on usb but that didn't work either. Seems that you were correct in your assessment of possible bug in 8.04
[20:08] <mrjohnsen> ikonia: /var/logs/messages?
[20:08] <SPF> ikonia: well, there's some activity in /var/messages
[20:08] <ikonia> SPF: what are you expecting to happen
[20:09] <ikonia> mrjohnsen: no, the dns servers log files,
[20:09] <arthur_> i want to make a ringtone for my phone 1. is there a program that will trim .mp3's and 2. i need to save or convert it to 3g2 format for my samsung a900 ..
[20:09] <malv1> ikonia: when I boot from the alternate CD it says that my cpu is not an x86-64 bit cpu
[20:09] <SPF> ikonia: a new nic in /dev
[20:09] <ikonia> mrjohnsen: but you can get some info out of the syslog
[20:09] <ikonia> malv1: what cpu do you have?
[20:09] <ikonia> SPF: can you configure ubuntu to use that nic as the detaulf route ?
[20:09] <malv1> ikonia: amd 3200+
[20:09] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: roger...  --> assessment of possible bug in 8.04  ..you mean 8.10 there don't you?
[20:09] <ikonia> malv1: what type of amd 3200
[20:10] <malv1> ikonia: the single core version
[20:10] <yao_ziyuan1> till now i can still not mix sounds
[20:10] <yao_ziyuan1> my sound card is intel ich5
[20:10] <SPF> ikonia: I was expecting a new nic, but no new nic was created after usb connection with the mobile device
[20:10] <yao_ziyuan1> in kde 3/4 i can.
[20:10] <ikonia> malv1: your not using any virtualisation are you
[20:10] <ikonia> SPF nic's don't appear in /dev
[20:11] <yao_ziyuan1> can anyone tell me how exactly should i configure Multimedia Systems Selector and Sounds
[20:11] <malv1> ikonia: nope
[20:11] <Slart> SPF: if I want to use the internet connection that the phone uses I have to use the phone as a modem but call a special number.. something like *3
[20:11] <malv1> ikonia: I am booting from a USB drive instead of a CD though
[20:11] <xiamx> I'm interested in Build from source tool just like apt-build, is there any tool similar or related?
[20:11] <ikonia> malv1: Hmmm not sure how that would effect things
[20:11] <ikonia> Slart: same as me
[20:11] <malv1> ikonia: and I am using the alternate installer
[20:11] <Slart> SPF: there were some special settings in the at-commands too.. but I think that might depends on the operator and the phone
[20:12] <keolo> hello anyone know a good way to install aptitude if it's missing?
[20:12] <malv1> i am going to try it with the live cd and see if it makes a difference
[20:12] <ikonia> malv1 yes, but I'm just trying to think how a usb boot would effect things
[20:12] <SPF> Slart: if I connect the mobile phone to a windows pc, the windows pc creates a new nic, and that will be your default gateway. Should work in a similar way on ubuntu
[20:12] <Slart> keolo: apt-get install aptitude would be my first guess
[20:12] <keolo> i'm on 8.10
[20:12] <ikonia> keolo how would it be missing ?
[20:12] <keolo> yeah tried that ... no dice
[20:12] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: i was able to install 8.04 initially, though after a couple of boots system would not boot from either hd or dvd drive...switched to 8.10 and was able to install 8.10 onto hd from dvd, seems to be running now (cross fingers)
[20:12] <keolo> not sure why it's missing
[20:12] <Alex_WuP> hey I have a little problem here, if I try to log out there apears just a black screen and it is not frezed. My OS Kubuntu, laterst vesion
[20:12] <Slart> SPF: that might be a driver feature in the windows driver..
[20:12] <keolo> maybe it's ubuntu-minimal?
[20:12] <Eroick> is there a way to install all of the ubuntustudio audio stuff on top of an existing ubuntu install?
[20:12] <onetinsoldier> atb101010: roger that. cool.. enjoy!
[20:12] <mrjohnsen> ikonia: ok. where is the dns serverlog located? :p
[20:13] <Slart> SPF: or do you have some other example of mobiles that work that way in linux?
[20:13] <Ab3L> bye
[20:14] <atb101010> any ideas why can't see any network connections under my Network Manager? Tried adding wired connection but nothing comes up...
[20:14] <elostio> Eroick sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio
[20:14] <elostio>                                                           
[20:14] <SPF> Slart: yes, it's called RNDIS driver
[20:15] <TJ-42> in ubuntu 8.10, how do I change compiz settings for the different plugins?
[20:15] <SPF> Slart: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/192411
[20:16] <ikonia> mrjohnsen: you define it in your config
[20:16] <Eroick> elostio: will that include the low-latency kernel?
[20:16] <elostio> no idea
[20:17] <SPF> ikonia: so the question is how to enable rndis support on Ubuntu?
[20:17] <MarvinPA> I was told to come here. I need help...
[20:18] <tood> oh
[20:18] <tood> hello ppl
[20:18] <tood> any one here have question
[20:18] <tood> ??
[20:18] <MarvinPA> Yeah
[20:18] <Gnea> MarvinPA: we can't help you until you tell us what the problem is
[20:18] <tood> go ahead
[20:18] <MarvinPA> OK
[20:18] <Slart> SPF: hmm.. there seems to be a driver for rndis.. but I've only seen howtos that recommend you download the source and compile it yourself
[20:19] <Slart> SPF: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=9fa94f234e3088cf0ac51637095bde11&t=935203
[20:19] <MarvinPA> I was told to install Ubuntu uwing Wubi, So I did. After I did that whenever I try to boot, a minimalistic Shell pops up
[20:19] <SPF> Slart: ah, that's great info.
[20:19] <tood> oh dude i have been throught this my self
[20:19] <tood> look
[20:19] <tood> this is what u gonna do
[20:19] <Gnea> MarvinPA: what does the shell look like?
[20:20] <MarvinPA> Black bacground white text,
[20:20] <Gnea> MarvinPA: what does the text *say*?
[20:20] <MarvinPA> OK. I'll copy and paste
[20:20] <Slart> tood: let the enter key rest a while every now and then.. no need for a new line for each word
[20:20] <Gnea> !pastebin
[20:20] <MarvinPA> Damn hang on
[20:20] <dutchbuntu> I have a problem pairing my Ubuntu laptop to my Nokia 6300 via bluetooth. Can anybody help me witht that?
[20:20] <MarvinPA> (I do know what Pastebin is. I'm not *that* retarded
[20:21] <rookeeeeeeeee> the audio on my bluetooth headset is choppy. how can I fix it?
[20:21] <tood> hay i have a question
[20:21] <Gnea> MarvinPA: most people just paste into the channel outright, had to make sure.
[20:21] <mrjohnsen> where is the bind server log located?
[20:21] <Slart> mrjohnsen: probably somewhere in /var/log/
[20:22] <MarvinPA> Gnea: Good idea to have a little remote
[20:22] <tood> why cant dvds that burn in windows vista system opend in linux why any one know the reason ???
[20:22] <MarvinPA> OK. http://pastebin.com/m27d3c60a
[20:22] <Slart> tood: have you googled? I think it's something about how windows creates the dvd.. can't remember the details
[20:22] <Gnea> tood: probably because they weren't burnt correctly
[20:23] <caveman26> I have 1024Mb of ram and ubuntu only sees 1011. I have no shared video so why is it doing that?
[20:23] <rookeeeeeeeee> the audio on my bluetooth headset is choppy. how can I fix it?
[20:23] <Gnea> MarvinPA: hrm, sounds like something went wrong with the installation. can you reboot into windows and uninstall/reinstall it?
[20:23] <tood> well no someone told me only dvds that burnd by vista system only vista can read it no other system can figure it out
[20:23] <Slart> caveman26: how do you find out that ubuntu only seens 1011?
[20:23] <fehomi> my school's DHCP server isn't responding to DHCP_DISCOVER on my linux machine but it connects fine on Windows (even via the same ethernet cable!)
[20:24] <tood>  well no someone told me only dvds that burnd by vista system only vista can read it no other system can figure it out
[20:24] <eretik> try connect with blueman
[20:24] <MarvinPA> Gnea: OK I uninstall just like an app right?
[20:24] <caveman26> gnome system monitor, gkrellm
[20:24] <johndoe> does ubuntu have amd64 and ia64 or just 64bit ?
[20:24] <onetinsoldier> caveman26: kernel probably reserves some LOWMEM area
[20:24] <caveman26> its no big deal, Im just curious
[20:24] <Gnea> !repeat | tood
[20:24] <Gnea> MarvinPA: yup
[20:24] <tood>  well no someone told me only dvds that burnd by vista system only vista can read it no other system can figure it out
[20:24] <dutchbuntu> Can anyone help me pairing my Ubuntu laptop and my Nokia 6300 via bluetooth?
[20:24] <MarvinPA> Gnea: I'll try and see how it works out
[20:24] <Slart> caveman26: hmm.. same thing here.. don't know why it does that.. might be as onetinsoldier said
[20:24] <eretik>  blueman
[20:24] <Gnea> tood: that was a polite way of saying 'stop'.
[20:25] <rookeeeeeeeee> i think my bluetooth mouse may be interfering with my bluetooth headset. is that a possibility?
[20:25] <Xcerca> whats a good python IDE ?
[20:25] <Gnea> MarvinPA: good luck
[20:25] <Slart> dutchbuntu: ok.. I'll give it a try.. what have you tried so far?
[20:25] <dutchbuntu> Slart: thanx
[20:25] <Slart> Xcerca: try SPE.. I think it's pretty nice
[20:25] <MarvinPA> thanks ')
[20:25] <MarvinPA> *;)
[20:25] <therealnanotube> Xcerca: i like geany...
[20:25] <dutchbuntu> I switched on bluetooth on my phone (always visible)
[20:26] <Slart> dutchbuntu: do you see the little bluetooth icon in the task tray?
[20:26] <rookeeeeeeeee> maybe if there's someway to change bluetooth channels i can fix this. does anyone know how?
[20:26] <tood> hay ppl this is my second day in vista and all i want is some help i m not jokin i just need to open 42 data dvds in linux but they always say cant amount
[20:26] <Xcerca> Slart   thanks,   i'll check them out
[20:26] <dutchbuntu> Bluetooth USB device is plugged in and recognized
[20:26] <dutchbuntu> Yes I see it
[20:26] <Gnea> !bluetooth
[20:26] <tood> my second day in linux i mean
[20:26] <caveman26> ubuntu has alwase shorted my ram like that, its never been a problem, im only curious about it.. the kernel explanation is probably why, since i have a dedicated geforce video card that doesnt share ram
[20:26] <dutchbuntu> When I start connecting a new device, my phone shows up
[20:26] <dutchbuntu> i select it, click 'Forward'
[20:26] <johndoe> tood: second day in vista and you need to open the dvds in linux??
[20:26] <Slart> dutchbuntu: ok.. have you tried right clicking on that bluetooth icon and chosing "Setup new device"?
[20:26] <dutchbuntu> nothing happens
[20:26] <rookeeeeeeeee> Gnea i've already setup bluetooth. that is unhelpful im afraid.
[20:27] <tood> no i mean second day in linux
[20:27] <dutchbuntu> Yes, I did and I see my phone
[20:27] <MarvinPA> Gnea: so I just reinstalled like I did last time?
[20:27] <tood> i mean my second day in linux
[20:27] <Slart> dutchbuntu: ok.. you don't get some kind of "Enter pin number" dialog?
[20:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> the audio on my bluetooth headset is choppy. how can I fix it?
[20:27] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: are you sure it's fully charged?
[20:27] <tood> i am windows user just try to know how to deal with vista
[20:27] <dutchbuntu> Slart: no
[20:27] <tood> deal with linux i mean
[20:27] <Slart> dutchbuntu: ok.. I've got my cell phone here.. I'll just delete the pairing I've got and try to set it up again..
[20:27] <rookeeeeeeeee> Gnea, yes, indeed it is
[20:28] <andresmh> is there a tool to check the signal strength of a built-in CDMA modem?
[20:28] <Gnea> tood: it sounds like you need to straighten some other things out before trying out linux.
[20:28] <MarvinPA> OK reinstalling
[20:28] <moonlite> andresmh: not in general.
[20:28] <tood> what u mean ??
[20:29] <Gnea> !guidelines | tood
[20:29] <Gnea> tood: please read those guidelines.
[20:29] <moonlite> andresmh: the interfaces to these devices are all vastly different and a general solution hasn't been implemented yet (to my knowledge) it's on the todo for tne NetworkManager folks though
[20:29] <onetinsoldier> caveman26: compile a custom kernel sometime and you'll probably get the idea about the LOWMEM area.. i'm about to compile my own kernel-2.6.28-rc8-git2
[20:29] <atb101010> can someone help me configure my ubuntu installation with networking?
[20:29] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: does it get choppier the more you walk away from the computer?
[20:29] <tood> well thx any way but hay i wanna to close my firewall in ubuntu how some one help plzzzzzzzzz
[20:29] <andresmh> moonlite, thanks! it's the first thoughtful response i've gotten to this question :)
[20:29] <tood> hay i wanna to close my firewall in ubuntu how some one help plzzzzzzzzz
[20:29] <rookeeeeeeeee> Gnea, YES
[20:30] <tood> it block my torrent downloads
[20:30] <rookeeeeeeeee> but im right next to it
[20:30] <eseven73> todd its 'hey' not 'hay'
[20:30] <andresmh> moonlite, is there a place I could vote in favor of that feature? :)
[20:30] <Gnea> tood: you will need to read those guidelines and respect the way this channel works if you want anyone to help you.
[20:30] <moonlite> andresmh: no problems. Search the archives for the NM mailing list if you're interested in what they say about it.
[20:30] <mrwes> hay is for horses
[20:30] <mrwes> heh
[20:30] <Slart> dutchbuntu: hmm.. I just get "Pairing with Nokia 5310 failed"
[20:30] <tood> ok i m really srry ppl
[20:30] <geenome> how do I get flash to install?
[20:30] <geenome> it keeps saying wrong architexture i386
[20:31] <l7> what is the best way of making a disk image of a usb drive?
[20:31] <tood> what u r trying to say eseven 73
[20:31] <moonlite> andresmh: i have no idea, but i don't think it would matter. The guys that work on that stuff will make it happen when the technology is there i think
[20:31] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: do you get any static while using it with your phone?
[20:31] <rookeeeeeeeee> no
[20:31] <dutchbuntu> Slart: I got the same thing
[20:31] <eseven73> nevermind todd
[20:31] <Gnea> tood: how old are you?
[20:31] <MarvinPA> Gnea: Thanks so much, the Ubuntu loading screen's come up.
[20:31] <dutchbuntu> Slart: believe it or not, now it's working
[20:31] <Gnea> MarvinPA: cheers
[20:31] <rookeeeeeeeee> gnea it happens most often when i use my bluetooth mouse
[20:31] <Slart> tood: try to pretend you're a boring 30-year old accountant with low blood sugar.. you'll get better answers I think
[20:32] <MarvinPA> You're a life saver. Anyway I'll be on my way.
[20:32] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: I see... do you have a non-bt mouse?
[20:32] <dutchbuntu> Slart: I didn't change anything and suddenly my phone is recognized and I can pair it
[20:32] <rookeeeeeeeee> no gnea
[20:32] <Slart> dutchbuntu: did you do anything special? =)
[20:32] <coolguy4> I was wondering how to figure out what packages are necessary for the flash 10 64bit version. I have that installed but I did apt-cache pkgnames flash --installed, and it looks like I have some extra flash packages... I'm getting the grey box problem
[20:32] <tood> look i m srry ppl but first i am german ok so i suck in english second i m just new in linux ok so take it easy on my ok
[20:32] <dutchbuntu> Slart: I wish =)
[20:32] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: and what happens when you unplug your bt mouse? does the static go away or remain?
[20:32] <caveman26> ima compile it all when i get my dual core atom mobo... or I might just go with a str8 debian install.. since debian is about 2x faster than ubuntu on this POS dell that has mobo issues
[20:32] <kitche> !de | tood might be easier for you
[20:32] <Slart> dutchbuntu: this is most unfair.. now it doesn't work for me.. is there a limit on how many bluetooth pairing there can be in the world at one time?? I think you took my slot =)
[20:33] <atb101010> i see no network devices under the network manager icon on the toolbar
[20:33] <rookeeeeeeeee> gnea there is no static, it just is choppy
[20:33] <mrwes> l7: try dd if=/dev/ of=usb.iso
[20:33] <tood> jaa danke
[20:33] <Gnea> tood: you might find the #ubuntu-de channel to be easier to understand
[20:33] <mrwes> l7: not use what device your usb is on
[20:33] <rookeeeeeeeee> ill take the batteries out of my bt mouse
[20:33] <tood> thx ppl for ur help
[20:33] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: okay
[20:33] <rockyrock> ﻿why adobe doesn't support linux??? i.e why there are no applications for Linux like PS, Flash...etc
[20:33] <tood> and srry for annoying u all thx ppl
[20:33] <mrwes> Ubottu: danke sehr
[20:33] <Gnea> !flash | rockyrock
[20:33] <dutchbuntu> Slart: I am now connected to slart-dekstop, is that a problem?
[20:33] <Gnea> rockyrock: what?
[20:34] <nibbler> kristian1:  cd /
[20:34] <mrwes> uh?
[20:34] <mrwes> er
[20:34] <craig1709> I know this is bad form, but #windows is no help - does anybody know where I can go for help whitelisting apps for Windows SteadyState?
[20:34] <Gnea> !bot
[20:34] <Slart> dutchbuntu: hehe..
[20:34] <rockyrock> Gnea: noooo
[20:34] <atb101010> how do I add a network device to my system
[20:34] <dutchbuntu> Slart: sorry mate, wish I could help you. Thanx for trying, though...
[20:34] <rockyrock> Gnea: i mean photshop and falsh applications
[20:34] <mrwes> l7: you get that?
[20:35] <Gnea> atb101010: turn computer off. disconnect power. install network card. reconnect power. turn computer on. verify new device with ifconfig -a
[20:35] <Slart> dutchbuntu: no worries.. I just hope mine starts working out of the blue too =)
[20:35] <andresmh> anyone here uses Mac4Lin?
[20:35] <Gnea> rockyrock: license disagreements
[20:35] <mrwes> l7: what device is your usb flash drive on?
[20:35] <kristian1> nibbler : i already got it answered, but thanks for your help, very much appreciated! you must have browsed a long way back. ^^
[20:35] <tood> hay could any one tell me how to log as root ????
[20:36] <Dvyjones> Seems like my sound stopped working... It has happened before, and after a reboot it works again... Any ideas how to fix w/o reboot?
[20:36] <rockyrock> Gnea: are you sure??? but what disagreements?? Linux allows paid software!!
[20:36]  * Dvyjones tried restarting pulseaudio
[20:36] <Gnea> tood: you need to type this:  /join #ubuntu-de
[20:36] <andresmh> I would like to know if there is a way in the Mac4Lin theme to highlight a button when it's selected. I typically select buttons by moving with tab but for some reason Mac4Lin doesn't seem to show when a button is selected. Anyone?
[20:36] <tood> where ???
[20:36] <Gnea> tood: here.
[20:36] <nibbler> kristian1: lol sorry, yea was bit late, seems i forgot hitting enter b4 :)
[20:36] <tood>  /join #ubuntu-de
[20:37] <mrwes> heh
[20:37] <Gnea> tood: without the space - / is the first thing to type
[20:37] <kristian1> nibbler : that's alright. thanks for your help. :-)
[20:38] <rookeeeeeeeee> gnea the choppyness stopped
[20:38] <tood> what is that room gnea ??
[20:38] <mrjohnsen> Hi guys! My gateway has two interfaces. One with dhcp which deliver inet connection. the other for sharing on the local network (static ip). I also have a dns server on the local network. How can i get the gateway to use my local dns server? dhcp for eth1 just overwrites resolv.conf
[20:38] <rookeeeeeeeee> how do i fix it now
[20:38] <Gnea> rockyrock: because they just don't.
[20:38] <Gnea> !de | tood
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> mrjohnsen: add its ip in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:38] <tood> ja danke
[20:38] <rathel> I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything, I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[20:38] <rockyrock> Gnea: so it's not license disagreements :)
[20:39] <Gnea> rockyrock: it is. i don't have the time to go into it now. try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:39] <rockyrock> Gnea: ok thnx
[20:39] <mrjohnsen> ActionParsnip: dhcp on eth1 removes it on every boot up
[20:39] <ranok> hi fireballmage
[20:39] <mon^rch> how do I get jack audio to "work"?
[20:39] <fireballmage> hi ranok
[20:39] <fireballmage> :-)
[20:39] <atb101010> Gnea: see lo and pan0 when I type ifconfig, do not see pan0 in my /etc/network/interfaces file, should I add it there?
[20:39] <ranok> :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> mrjohnsen: add it to the data the dhcpd kicks out ;)
[20:40] <Gnea> atb101010: no, pan0 is a bluetooth interface which really shouldn't even be there.  remember: ifconfig -a
[20:40] <Gnea> atb101010: the -a is important
[20:40] <rookeeeeeeeee> ok ive discovered the bluetooth mouse is causing interference w/ my bluetooth headset. how do i fix it?
[20:40] <the_eraser> can i set priority on rtorrent downloads?
[20:40] <the_eraser> i have read the user guide btw
[20:41] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: replace the bluetooth mouse with a non-bluetooth mouse.
[20:41] <Meshezabeel> Why are backports called backports? I always thought "back" meant you were going back to an older version.
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> rookeeeeeeeee: is there some channel selection stuff?
[20:41] <Gnea> !backports | Meshezabeel
[20:41] <rookeeeeeeeee> gnea i cant afford that, i am a mere peasant :(
[20:41] <atb101010> Gnea: typed ifconfig -a and those were the only two interfaces that came up...
[20:41] <the_eraser> oh i found it now
[20:42] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: mice are cheap - less than $5.
[20:42] <[TiZ]> Hi. Firefox's address bar has become completely unresponsive. It first started after installing two extensions: AdBlock Plus, and NoScript. I removed them, and my address bar still isn't working. Help, please?
[20:42] <rookeeeeeeeee> i cant be botherd by a third cord running to my laptop
[20:42] <Gnea> atb101010: try lspci | grep Ether
[20:42] <rookeeeeeeeee> sorry
[20:42] <Slart> dutchbuntu: that's odd.. it worked if I initiated the pairing from the cell phone.. but not if from ubuntu
[20:43] <SPF> Slart ikonia : I managed to compile the rndis driver manually. After loading it, it worked. Thanks to the guide at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935203
[20:43] <rookeeeeeeeee> how do i fix this problem
[20:43] <Slart> SPF: great
[20:44] <your_majesty> Hi, ubuntu is full of shit, so how the fuck can you retards use it? It's even worse than cockfucking dicksucking winblows?
[20:44] <ikonia> .ak your_majesty
[20:44] <dutchbuntu> Slart: Initially, it wouldn't work, whether I started from my phone or from my computer. Eventually, it worked when I started from my computer. It seems to lose the connection, though...
[20:45] <mon^rch> how do I get jack audio to "work"?
[20:45] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: well, the only channels that bluetooth uses are for different protocols, as outlined here: http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1307/Ubuntu Linux - Bluetooth and GPRS dialup connection
[20:45] <Meshezabeel> Gnea: yes, I've read that already, doesn't answer the question though ;)
[20:45] <Gnea> Meshezabeel: then you didn't read it right.
[20:45] <atb101010> Gnea:tried lspci|grep Ether, nothing
[20:46] <Meshezabeel> Gnea: perhaps you didn't read my question correctly
[20:46] <KlausGerman> hi @ll..versteht jemand von euch deutsch?!
[20:46] <[TiZ]> Firefox's address bar has become completely unresponsive. It first started after installing two extensions: AdBlock Plus, and NoScript. I removed them, and my address bar still isn't working. Help, please?
[20:46] <ikonia> !de > KlausGerman
[20:46] <KlausGerman> ok
[20:47] <omgirc> does xchat have a channel here ?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: you could try renaming your ~/.mozilla to get a stock profile, you'll lose settings etc
[20:47] <ikonia> omgirc: #xchat
[20:47] <Meshezabeel> Gnea: they are coming from the future, so should be called foreports
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: but if the profile is corrupt that'll sort it
[20:47] <KlausGerman> thanks for info :-)
[20:47] <Sven> #ubuntu-cn
[20:48] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a shot to see if my profile's bad.
[20:48] <Gnea> Meshezabeel: it's already been defined.
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: if its still bad, you only renamed so can rol back
[20:48] <Gnea> atb101010: what nic is it?
[20:48] <tritium> Meshezabeel: no, they should not be called foreports
[20:49] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: It does indeed appear to be something messed up in my profile.
[20:49] <tritium> Meshezabeel: when you take a newer version and port it back to an older release, you naturally call it a backport.
[20:49] <Slart> dutchbuntu: hmm.. I can't transfer files from/to my cell phone either.. I could do that on 8.04
[20:49] <atb101010> Gnea: believe the nic comes with mobo, in this case a gigabyte ga-ex58-ud5
[20:49] <Slart> dutchbuntu: but they've changed the bluetooth tools.. might be a new bug
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: ok well we know what the cause is now, you have 2 choices
[20:49] <Gnea> atb101010: ah, then you'll need to enable it in the bios
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: rebuild a new profile or roll back and try to see whats broken
[20:50] <Meshezabeel> tritium: ah, I see, so when you take an older version and port it to a newer release, what is it called?
[20:50] <tritium> Meshezabeel: that's not done
[20:50] <guntbert> Meshezabeel: useless :)
[20:50] <atb101010> Gnea: will look into it and report in a little while, thanks
[20:50] <[TiZ]> ActionParsnip: I'd rather do that second one, but I have no idea where to start to see what's messed up. I'll go to #firefox (if it exists) and see if they know anything. Thanks for your help! :)
[20:50] <Meshezabeel> okay, thanks ;)
[20:51] <KlausGerman> #edubuntu-de
[20:51] <Slart> dutchbuntu: seems like it's a common problem with intrepid, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964139
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> [TiZ]: np bro
[20:53] <Meshezabeel> so, if I want backports for 8.10 (which I'm using), I would just change the line on the backports page that says hardy-backports to intrepid-backports?
[20:54] <Flannel> Meshezabeel: yes
[20:54] <[TiZ]> Man~~! Every IRC channel on Freenode that has less than 500 people is always full of idlers. :(
[20:54] <Meshezabeel> thanks Flannel
[20:55] <[TiZ]> Meshezabeel: It's easier to go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable backports in the updates tab.
[20:55] <skeftomai> ﻿Hi, I have a RAID card in my server, and it keeps beeping non-stop...even with the drives removed
[20:55] <TJ-42> I'm confused -- If I have compiz installed, should I use emerald for themes, or gtk?
[20:55] <skeftomai> ﻿it's annoying the hell out of me. any suggestions?
[20:55] <skeftomai> how can i tell what the problem is? i don't have an external monitor ATM--can only SSH into the box
[20:56] <[TiZ]> TJ-42: You can use either. Compiz has two window decorators. Emerald's tend to look nicer, but GTK-Window-Decorator integrates better with your gtk themes
[20:56] <Meshezabeel> [TiZ]: I dunno, that way seems more confusing ;)
[20:56] <andresmh> in intrepid, the kind of themes I can install using Appearance Preferences are GTK1, GTK2, Metacity, Compiz and/or Beryl?
[20:57] <[TiZ]> Meshezabeel: Really? All you have to do is go to the Updates tab and check the "intrepid-backports" box.
[20:57] <andresmh> I am trying to download and install some themes from gnome-look.org but I don't know which ones I should be looking
[20:57] <jrib> andresmh: all of the above with the exception of gtk1 maybe.  They theme different things
[20:57] <TJ-42> hmm thanks TiZ
[20:57] <[TiZ]> No problem, TJ-42
[20:57] <andresmh> jrib, thanks! what does each theme?
[20:57] <[TiZ]> andresmh: You want to get GTK themes to change the overall look of your windows. Metacity and Emerald themes are for your window borders.
[20:58] <jrib> andresmh: gtk2 for your controls (buttons, scrollbars, etc.), metacity for your window borders, and I'm guessing the compiz/beryl ones are actually emerald themes which you can use if you use emerald with compiz
[20:58] <|WolF1> Question: One of my ntfs partitions is not mounting, it says it has invalid argument. Any one pls help me
[20:58] <Meshezabeel> ah, okay, thanks [TiZ] :)
[20:58] <[TiZ]> Mesheezabeel: No problem. :)
[20:59] <danilo> ola
[20:59] <andresmh> so Mac4Lin would be considered a GTK theme [TiZ], jrib ?
[20:59] <REdian> Hey, could someone help me find a partition? XD I seem to have lost it.
[20:59] <danilo> hallo
[20:59] <obst_> hello, I just updated to intrepid and can't compile an openGL application anymore, it says "ld: cannot find -lGL" although libgl1-mesa-dev is installed and libGL.so.1 can be found in in /usr/lib
[21:00] <kaliree> I have a problem with another distro of Linux, but I haven't been able to find an answer anywhere, is there a glorious golden Linux guru here who can help?
[21:00] <tritium> kaliree: this channel is specific to ubuntu support
[21:00] <Scunizi> kaliree: have you tried ##linux?  Ubuntu support here.
[21:00] <andresmh> also, are emerald and metacity mutually exclusive? meaning, i either use emerald or metacity?
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> kaliree: ubuntu only here
[21:01] <rathel> I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything, I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[21:01] <kaliree> scunizi: thank I'll check it out.
[21:01] <Scunizi> kaliree: np
[21:01] <AlfredHitchcock> a
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: you use metacity or emerald
[21:01] <|WolF1> ﻿Question: One of my ntfs partitions is not mounting, it says it has invalid argument. Any one pls help me
[21:02] <raylu> so i'm downloading vmware...and i have the option of getting an rpm and a "bundle"...
[21:02] <andresmh> ActionParsnip, where do I check if I am using metacity or emerald?
[21:02] <tyler_d3> |WolF1: don't know alot about it... good starting place would be /etc/fstab
[21:03] <tyler_d3> |WolF1: ensure that it looks as it should...
[21:03] <|WolF1> well there was some program for recovering lost partitions but ...
[21:03] <refefer> hi there, is there anyway to use 'ps' to tell what script a python process is running?  or a similar command?
[21:03] <bmeynell> when is the next release? =)
[21:03] <REdian> bmeynell: ubuntu? April
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: ps -ef | grep less and look for metacity, kwin, compiz etc to see which you are running
[21:04] <bmeynell> REdian: yeah =) thanks
[21:04] <tyler_d3> refefer: ps would tell you process information, in order to get wheat you are looking for you need to increase the loggging level and then tail the output :)
[21:04] <coeus82> hey, linux question here. How do I open all files called index.html in 10 folders with one command?
[21:04] <REdian> bmeynell: Every six months, once at the end of october, and then full in april every year.
[21:04] <coeus82> 10 folders all in one folder, that is
[21:04] <tyler_d3> refefer: best off asking in #python or likewise about that :)
[21:04] <guntbert> raylu: on ubuntu you generally don't install rpm - its a different package managing system
[21:04] <jrib> coeus82: open them in what...
[21:05] <refefer> tyler_d3: I'll ask there, thanks
[21:05] <coeus82> jrib: ideally, the program of my choosing, but let's say gedit
[21:05] <tyler_d3> refefer: np
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: find -name index.html -exec firefox {} \;
[21:05] <REdian> Anyone have any ideas why I can see a partition in GParted but then can't find it in "Computer"?
[21:05] <ardchoille> ActionParsnip: need a path?
[21:05] <riz0n> REdian: try going to /media/ and see if it shows up there
[21:06] <tyler_d3> REdian: not mounted
[21:06] <xiamx> Does kernel recompile make a remarkable speed up?
[21:06] <jrib> coeus82: gedit lets you specify multiple filenames.  So you can do: gedit file1 file2 ...   you can glob for the files.  This is why it depends on the program
[21:06] <andresmh> ActionParsnip, ps -ef  |  grep less returns: andresmh 10494  6064  0 16:05 pts/0    00:00:00 grep less
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> ardchoille: nah, just run it from where the search is to start, should be ok
[21:06] <REdian> riz0n: not there either :(
[21:06] <oskar-> xiamx:  no
[21:06] <REdian> tyler_d3: Where can I find it to mount it?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: ps -ef | less
[21:06] <riz0n> REdian: more than likely the NTFS partition has been marked for improper shutdown...
[21:06] <REdian> tyler_d3: sudo mount /dev/sda3?
[21:06] <tyler_d3> REdian > !mount
[21:07] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: works, thanks
[21:07] <lesshaste> what can I do to turn off touchpad tapping on my laptop?
[21:07] <lesshaste> it is driving me mad :)
[21:07] <tyler_d3> lesshaste: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf... back it up first of course
[21:08] <xiamx> oskar-: I thought if I build it in i686 architect and enable SSE2/3   MMX , it would be faster, is that so ?
[21:08] <lesshaste> tyler_d3, isn't the some app called something like synaptic?
[21:08] <|WolF1> question how to recover data from improperly shutdown ntfs partition, it can't be mounted
[21:08] <jrib> tyler_d3: xorg.conf isn't used to configure input devices anymore (by default)
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: its easy when you know how. look at the command instead of just using it and you'll learn. its dead handy
[21:08] <andresmh> ActionParsnip, I do see compiz, but I don't see Metacity nor Emerald listed
[21:08] <tyler_d3> lesshaste: listen to jrib... I stand corrected :)
[21:08] <lesshaste> :) ok
[21:08] <lesshaste> jrib, what advice please :) ?
[21:08] <REdian> tyler_d3: It says it can't find in in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:08] <coeus82> ActionParsnip: the find command?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> andresmh: then compiz is your window manager
[21:09] <rookeeeeeeeee> gnea im not in the uk
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: the whole thing
[21:09] <tyler_d3> REdian: what exactly are you looking for within those files?
[21:09] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: pardon?
[21:09] <TJ-42> I've gotten a new hard drive that want to use to store my music and pictures, instead of keeping these on my system drive.  Is it better to edit fstab to mount it as /home/myuser/media  or perhaps should I just create a symlink?
[21:09] <coeus82> ok, thanks
[21:09] <oskar-> xiamx:  i don't know, but does the kernel make use of sse/mmx and those instruction sets?
[21:09] <obst> hello, I updated my machine to ubuntu intrepid and can't compile an openGL application anymore, it says "ld: cannot find -lGL" although the package libgl1-mesa-dev is installed and libGL.so.1 can be found in /usr/lib
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> coeus82: {} means the file found, it will be the absolute path
[21:09] <rookeeeeeeeee> so how do i get my bluetooth mouse and headset working together?
[21:09] <eternaljoy> how can I install Acrobat Reader on 8.04?
[21:10] <jrib> lesshaste: help.ubuntu.com/community/X google how to configure the settings you want for whatever the touchpad driver you are using is.  /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi can serve as a guide for you.  From reading the first link, you should know that you should not edit that file directly though
[21:10] <andresmh> i thought emerald / metacity run on top of a windows manager like compiz
[21:10] <REdian> tyler_d3: I want to reinstall windows. I have a restore partition built into the system I didn't get any discs with it :( And I can boot to the partition with GRUB but I need to get at the password thats stored on the partition because I completely forgot it.
[21:10] <jrib> andresmh: metacity is a window manager...
[21:10] <eternaljoy> !Acrobat Reader
[21:10] <eternaljoy> !Acrobat
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> xiamx: i like the difference i get in speed.. have to realize, i'm talking about customizing the kernel options, not just using a vanilla debian or ubuntu config. it seems a little speedier to me, even with some debugging options included(inlcuding frame pointers). i try to go through all the options, and examine what's best for me tho.
[21:10] <lesshaste> jrgp, thanks.. I feel sure I just ran an app last time.. but upgrading to intrepid reset it and I can't remember how I did it last time
[21:10] <andresmh> jrgp, and emerald is what?
[21:10] <rookeeeeeeeee> i need some el helpo
[21:10] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: you miss the point entirely: you can't change the channel that the bluetooth devices communicate on.
[21:10] <lesshaste> jrib, *^^
[21:10] <lesshaste> sorry jrgp
[21:11] <jrib> lesshaste: maybe gsynaptics.  I'm not sure if it works anymore
[21:11] <eternaljoy> how can I install Acrobat Reader on 8.04?
[21:11] <rookeeeeeeeee> well then that sucks
[21:11] <onetinsoldier> xiamx: ymmv
[21:11] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: you need to eliminate one of your bluetooth devices.
[21:11] <lesshaste> jrib, that sounds like it!
[21:11] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[21:11] <jrib> lesshaste: that can be your first try :)
[21:11] <|WolF1> Is there any one that can really help?
[21:11] <tyler_d3> REdian: wow. thats quite the situation.... have you looked up mount... ie. google or mount and read anything up on it?
[21:11] <bulio> does anyone here use synergy?
[21:11] <tyler_d3> REdian: and what is the exact command you are running to mount this partition?
[21:11] <lesshaste> jrib, "You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics"
[21:11] <REdian> tyler_d3: sudo mount /dev/sda1
[21:11] <raylu> guntbert: i'm aware. so what's a bundle?
[21:12] <jrib> lesshaste: right, except now you use fdi files in /etc/hal/
[21:12] <REdian> tyler_d3: IT's always been there and now all of a sudden it stopped showing up
[21:12] <Gnea> rookeeeeeeeee: each channel is set aside for a special purpose. yes, it sucks, but mice are relatively cheap, especially for people who live in the US.
[21:12] <raylu> guntbert: ah, it's a bash script o.0
[21:12] <REdian> tyler_d3: You think it has something to do with it not shutting down properly?
[21:12] <oskar-> xiamx:  i use gentoo with a self-compiled vanilla kernel. and in my feeling, ubuntu's standard kernel is as fast as mine... think about the trouble of recompiling when a new version is needed, compared to simply installing it with apt-get
[21:12] <REdian> tyler_d3: I tohught it shut down right, but I suppose you can never be sure, right?
[21:12] <xiamx> onetinsoldier: Sounds good, so you customized the kernel, and disabled option that you don't need?
[21:12] <Xavier> what's the best way to skin ubuntu 8.10?
[21:12] <raylu> <3 the file command
[21:12] <lesshaste> jrib, ok thanks
[21:12] <Kattollikisd> someone here have a web site then I can find some skin for my SimDock or Wbar?
[21:12] <raylu> Xavier: change your gtk theme?
[21:12] <whuffor> How do I know which version of amarok will be installed if I do sudo apt-get install amarok ? I'd like to install amarok2 if possible in ubuntu 8.10
[21:13] <tyler_d3> REdian: I think you need to read honestly, because you need to specify more then that, you need to tell the system where it is mounting this. what type of file-system it is as well what the read/write options are.
[21:13] <raylu> whuffor: aptitude show amarok
[21:13] <tyler_d3> !mount
[21:13] <raylu> whuffor: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[21:13] <Xavier> raylu: yeh that might work, i used to use compiz - is compiz still cool for skinning?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> whuffor: you can get it via neon
[21:13] <tyler_d3> REdian > !mount
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> !neon | whuffor
[21:13] <raylu> Xavier: i guess. if you want more control though, consider a different wm (fluxbox comes to mind)
[21:13] <|WolF1> ﻿question how to recover data from improperly shutdown ntfs partition, it can't be mounted
[21:13] <lesshaste> this touchpad tapping is like torture! I can't imagine how anyone does any work with it on
[21:14] <Xavier> raylu: wm?
[21:14] <REdian> !mount
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> xiamx: yes. trouble is, although i can figure out what a lot of options are for/do, there's a fair number i don't quite understand. also, if you use the lastest kernel, you usually can't use the proprietary ati or nvidia drivers
[21:14] <raylu> |WolF1: as it says when you try to mount, use -f
[21:14] <raylu> |WolF1: er, sorry, -o force
[21:14] <tyler_d3> |WolF1: I believe the switch is -f for forcing the mount of this drive...
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> |WolF1: dd_resucue can help, it will copy data even if its broken to an image, then you can mount the image
[21:14] <raylu> Xavier: window manager
[21:14] <_jlb_> yeah but apple is following suite with everyone else.....
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> |WolF1: you SHOULD have a data backup, otherwise the data is dispensible
[21:14] <|WolF1> raylu: please tell me the exacvt comand
[21:14] <whuffor> raylu: Thanks. aptitude show amarok gives: version 2:1.4.10-0ubuntu3, but isn't that the version number of the package?
[21:14] <xiamx> oskar-: k, I guess I will keep ubuntu's distro kernel hehe
[21:15] <raylu> |WolF1: have you tried mounting it yourself?
[21:15] <Xavier> raylu: i'm not too familiar with fluxbox, i guess i'll research that
[21:15] <raylu> whuffor: the version # of the package is the version that will be installed
[21:15] <|WolF1> raylu: i did with sudo mount /dev/sda1
[21:15] <MarvinPA> Hey, If anyone's avalibe. I installed Ubuntu today. And it connects to WiFi but I cannot access any sites with Firefox.
[21:15] <raylu> |WolF1: and what did it say when you tried that?
[21:15] <whuffor> raylu: But amarok just released 2.0. I doubt very much that they are up to version 2.1.something already
[21:16] <chairman> how do i do the domino effects?
[21:16] <|WolF1> raylu:  and it says that there is not such device, and i c it in partition manager and fdisk -l
[21:16] <raylu> Xavier: oh, also see http://gnome-look.org/
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: can you ping 38.99.130.180
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> xiamx: anyway, as you were saying.. you can specify your exact processor architecture, the scheduler you want.. ect..
[21:16] <raylu> whuffor: um, it's version 1.4.10...
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: can you ping your routers ip address?
[21:16] <CarlFK> why does aplay sound.wav work, but not espeak hi?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: can you ping www.bmezine.com
[21:16] <raylu> |WolF1: yes, but it's not configured in fstab. you did't provide a mount point
[21:16] <MarvinPA> I'm not sure. I'm not on Ubuntu now
[21:17] <raylu> |WolF1: where do you want to mount it?
[21:17] <whuffor> raylu: Oh. Then I don't want that package... Any idea if it's possible to install version 2.0 somehow?
[21:17] <Xavier> raylu: does compiz come preinstalled with ubuntu 8.10 or is that still something i've gotta take care of?
[21:17] <tyler_d3> |WolF1: command should be something like `sudo mount "device" "file system type" 0 0`
[21:17] <raylu> whuffor: yes, scroll up and see the two links we gave you
[21:17] <raylu> tyler_d3: no it shouldn't
[21:17] <raylu> tyler_d3: that's the fstab syntax
[21:17] <jeremy_> Hello, could somebody please help me with getting a screensaver set as my desktop wallpaper? I have already tried xwinwrap but the problem is it takes over my entire scren and I can't see any windows and I have to pkill xwinwrap in order to stop it, and I have tried using the command /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatix -root & and that didn't show up as my desktop wallpaper and I already went into...
[21:17] <jeremy_> ...nautilus preferences and set "show desktop" to false. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!
[21:17] <Xavier> raylu: also i emerald still relavent to compiz and skinning?
[21:17] <|WolF1> raylu: sorry for not telling i am on livecd and i just want to recover it. i couldn't c it from the system so i run the livecd
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: you need to try pinging names and ip addresses to see whats going on
[21:18] <MarvinPA> OK
[21:18] <tyler_d3> raylu: being quiet and reading my man pages again ****sheepishly****
[21:18] <lesshaste> jrib, hmm.. seems gsynaptics is still there but out of date
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: ping router ip, 38.99.130.180, and www.bmezine.com
[21:18] <raylu> Xavier: probably. i haven't used compiz in forever
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: if the ips work and names dont, your dns is failing
[21:18] <raylu> |WolF1: ok... again, where do you want to mount it?
[21:18] <Xavier> raylu: what're are you using these days?
[21:18] <jeremy_> Please help me!!!!
[21:18] <jrib> lesshaste: I gave you the wrong link before.  It should be wiki.ubuntu.com/X
[21:18] <whuffor> ActionParsnip: What is neon?
[21:18] <raylu> Xavier: just gnome. metacity, technically
[21:18] <jpoRS> I am using Amarok 1.4something in 8.10 (64bit) and my collection has dissapeared, I don't know why.  I have tried numerous fixes I found on the web, but nothing has worked.  Anyone have any ideas?
[21:18] <Gnea> !helpme | jeremy_
[21:18] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: What does that mean?
[21:19] <jeremy_> I just said that hwole block of text, Gnea!!!
[21:19] <raylu> tyler_d3: i find "mount --help" more concise :D
[21:19] <whuffor> Dang! It's difficult to find the answers among all the scrolling text...
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> whuffor: its nightly builds of kde4.2 and amarok2
[21:19] <jeremy_> I just said my entire problem I DO NOT WANT ANOTHER STUPID BOT
[21:19] <raylu> tyler_d3: the mount manpage is not to be trifled with :P
[21:19] <Gnea> jeremy_: calm down.
[21:19] <jeremy_> Please help me
[21:19] <jeremy_> read what I just said
[21:19] <Caduceus> !patience
[21:19] <jeremy_> Ok
[21:19] <FloodBot2> jeremy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <|WolF1> raylu: i want to mount it anywhere under livecd just to be mounted so i could recover the data for it
[21:19] <Caduceus> !repeat
[21:19] <MarvinPA> OK. So I ping in Terminal no?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: dns changes names into ip addresses, computers dont use names, they use numbers
[21:19] <tyler_d3> #pidgin
[21:19] <jeremy_> but I hate when people use this dumb bot
[21:19] <raylu> jpoRS: the actual files or just the library that catalogued the files?
[21:19] <jeremy_> Nobody is LISTENING
[21:19] <lesshaste> jrib, hm.,. seems a lot to learn just to turn off tapping??!
[21:19] <jeremy_> That's the problem,
[21:19] <raylu> |WolF1: cd /media
[21:19] <Gnea> jeremy_: and I hate when people act like 2 year olds.
[21:20] <jrib> jeremy_: calm down.  What does this return: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: if you cant change names to ip, when you type www.ubuntu.com in a browser it wont get converted and fail
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: perhaps follow nicks more than the text of messages, helps sometimes
[21:20] <raylu> |WolF1: sudo mkdir sda1
[21:20] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: So how do I ping?
[21:20] <raylu> |WolF1: sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1 -o force
[21:20] <jrib> jeremy_: and unless you change your attitude, I'm just going to leave
[21:20] <jeremy_> nothing
[21:20] <jeremy_> It shows nothing when I do it
[21:20] <jeremy_> And I'm sorry
[21:20] <whuffor> onetinsoldier: Mmm. Perhaps.. :)
[21:20] <jeremy_> I'm going to calm down
[21:20] <raylu> jeremy_: also, please prefix your messages with the name of the person you're talking to
[21:20] <jrib> jeremy_: pastebin what you typed and the output
[21:20] <jpoRS> raylu: the files are fine, but amarok, exaile, and rthmnbox are all having difficulties with collection/library
[21:20] <zvacet> jeremy_ : can you ,please repeat you r question and maybe somebody will be able to help you
[21:21] <jeremy_> jrib: there was no output
[21:21] <storm-zen> My computer booted up Intrepid without sound today for the first time in months.  How do I get my sound back?
[21:21] <jrib> jeremy_: there has to be output, so it means you typed something wrong.  Thus why I am asking you to pastebin what you typed
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: ping <ip address> in terminal, just like any otehr system available
[21:21] <jrib> jeremy_: copy everything you see on your terminal
[21:21] <jeremy_> Um
[21:21] <Caduceus> storm-zen: that sucks. =(
[21:21] <MarvinPA> K
[21:21] <Gnea> storm-zen: have you checked the mixer settings to make sure nothing is muted?
[21:21] <raylu> jpoRS: i'm not sure about rhythmbox, but i know that amarok and exaile use sqlite by default. i'd reinstall that package and also remove any configuration files you have in your home directory ("ls ~/.* -d" will help)
[21:22] <whuffor> raylu: That link talks about installing on kubuntu. I don't see that it applies to ubuntu in that it talks about adept updater and stuff like that
[21:22] <jeremy_> http://pastebin.com/m105b47b9
[21:22] <jrib> jeremy_: "false" is output
[21:22] <jeremy_> and my question is up in the chat a little ways
[21:22] <raylu> whuffor: er, as long as you add the right repositories, it'll install on ubuntu
[21:22] <jpoRS> thanks raylu, happy holidays everyone
[21:22] <|WolF1> raylu: i got this: ﻿sudo mount /dev/sda1 sda1 -o force | mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[21:22] <jeremy_> no
[21:22] <jeremy_> it went onto a new line
[21:22] <raylu> whuffor: the only difference is you'll have to pull in some qt packages that ubuntu doesn't come with
[21:22] <jrib> jeremy_: look at your pastebin
[21:22] <Gnea> jeremy_: i see the word 'false' there.
[21:22] <jeremy_> Yeah and that's because that's what I was told to type wasn't it
[21:22] <raylu> |WolF1: do you need to write to the disk or is reading enough?
[21:23] <jeremy_> Wait
[21:23] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I'm getting "host unreachable" for the IP
[21:23] <jeremy_> Yeah, that is the output
[21:23] <jjules> hi guys
[21:23] <raylu> !hi | jjules
[21:23]  * Gnea gives up.
[21:23]  * raylu pats Gnea
[21:23] <jeremy_> Gnea: I'm sorry
[21:23] <jeremy_> Gnea: I'll be more patient
[21:23] <exodus_ms> jeremy_, your a clown, dude, calm down and concentrate on the help you are receiving
[21:23] <|WolF1> raylu: just reading bro
[21:23] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[21:23] <onetinsoldier> i a wondering why ubuntu doesn't have the 'alsaconf' command line util?
[21:23] <Gnea> jeremy_: i'll believe it when i see it.
[21:23] <Andry> Hi guys, I need to burn a 4GB file onto a DVD with winXP and I want to be able to read it under Ubuntu as well... which filesystem should I use?
[21:23] <jrib> jeremy_: '/usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -root' should work fine then unless you have something else drawing your desktop
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: can you ping your routers ip?
[21:23] <whuffor> raylu: Yes, but I still don't understand how I tell apt, aptitude or whatever to install 2.0 instead of 1.4 after having added that line to the repository
[21:23] <raylu> |WolF1: sudo mount -t ntfs -o force /dev/sda1 sda
[21:24] <raylu> er...
[21:24] <raylu> |WolF1: sudo mount -t ntfs -o force /dev/sda1 sda1
[21:24] <jeremy_> jrib: I know, but for some reason
[21:24] <raylu> whuffor: the package name should be amarok-kde4, i believe
[21:24] <storm-zen> Gnea: The speaker in the gnome toolbar does not have a red x on it.  Double clicking on said speaker shows only line in and microphone as muted.  Amarok is not muted.
[21:24] <jeremy_> It doesn't really do anything
[21:24] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Local IP or world wide IP?
[21:24] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: i see what you mean though, it is very busy in here today
[21:24] <whuffor> raylu: OK. I'll try that
[21:24] <tyler_d3> Andry: shouldn't need to specify a file system... just gitterdone
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: internal
[21:24] <Gnea> storm-zen: is that a laptop or desktop?
[21:24] <jrib> jeremy_: turn off effects and see if it works
[21:24] <raylu> whuffor: tell me how it is for you, btw. i didn't like it much, though i didn't give it much of a real chance
[21:25] <storm-zen> Gnea: Desktop.
[21:25] <jeremy_> jrib: How do I turn off effects? Do you mean compiz?
[21:25] <jrib> jeremy_: yes
[21:25] <Gnea> storm-zen: are speakers builtin or external?
[21:25] <jeremy_> jrib: How? pkill compiz?
[21:25] <|WolF1> raylu: The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[21:25] <raylu> |WolF1: um, sda1?
[21:25] <storm-zen> Gnea: External.  Light is on, and volume is over halfway up.
[21:25] <jrib> jeremy_: system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none   (don't be so violent)
[21:25] <TJ-42> is there any way to control what shows up as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb -- these seem to change at almost every reboot for me
[21:25] <jrib> TJ-42: use UUIDs
[21:25] <jeremy_> jrib:  LOL
[21:25] <lectus> Hello! I'm trying to restore GRUB on my girlfriend's computer after she reinstalled windows. The problem is gparted does not detect the SATA harddisk. Any idea?
[21:26] <|WolF1> raylu:  i just switch it couse it is sdb1 the partition that i can't mount
[21:26] <Gnea> storm-zen: and they're plugged in nice and snug? there's no small piece of metal distorting the connection?
[21:26] <RITN> how do i mount samba shares?
[21:26] <lectus> so, I can't know the partition because nothing is detected
[21:26] <exodus_ms> !samba
[21:26] <jeremy_> yaaaaaay
[21:26] <jeremy_> it works!!!
[21:26] <jjules> i have a little prob with my raid0, my mainboard crashed and i actually don't have another mainboard with the same raidcontroller near me. is it possible to rescue a raid0-array with dmraid without a raidcontroller?
[21:26] <jeremy_> it works!!!!!
[21:26] <jeremy_> it really really works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
[21:26] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: start up aptitude... then search for the app with the / key. the when you have it highlighted... press  t   it'll show the versions that are available. then highlight the version you want and then work from there(+ key or 'enter' key)
[21:26] <FloodBot2> jeremy_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <raylu> lectus: what does gparted have to do with installing grub
[21:26] <storm-zen> Gnea: Haven't touched them since they worked yesterday.
[21:26] <whuffor> raylu: It's installing now. I hopw it's the right version. :) How on earth did you know that the package name is amarok-kde4?
[21:26] <jeremy_> jrib: I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are now my best friend!
[21:26] <lesshaste> jrib, this is madness.. apparently according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig I have to edit /etc/hal/fdi/policy/shmconfig.fdi
[21:26] <lectus> raylu: I need to know the partitions to restore GRUB, no?
[21:26] <raylu> |WolF1: well... as the error message says, sdb1 isn't the right drive
[21:26] <raylu> lectus: sudo fdisk -l
[21:26] <REdian> tyler_d3: I'm still having a lot of trouble....do you think you could help me put together the command I need?
[21:26] <lesshaste> jrib, except of course that doesn't exist
[21:27] <jrib> jeremy_: try #compiz to see if you can get it to work inside compiz
[21:27] <raylu> |WolF1: you should also try "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:27] <TJ-42> jrib: I know how to get the UUID, but is there any way to use the UUID to set /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc?  it would make things easier when I have to, for example, look at fdisk. I have to remember to look at the size of the drive before I do anything or I might mess with the wrong drive
[21:27] <jrib> lesshaste: you create it :)
[21:27] <Andry> tyler_d3: what is gitterdone?
[21:27] <raylu> whuffor: someone was asking about it yesterday
[21:27] <lesshaste> jrib, so I am guessing I edit the file you said at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi ?
[21:27] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[21:27] <raylu> whuffor: also, "aptitude search amarok" would have told you
[21:27] <Gnea> storm-zen: better check them again now, just to be on the safe side
[21:27] <jrib> TJ-42: not afaik
[21:27] <lesshaste> jrib, oh... I don't edit that file you said?
[21:27] <CheesyWeasel> http://code.google.com/p/dfo/ according to this website, this program is for gnome? i download the .tar.gz and it has no source just a .exe and a .dll file
[21:27] <zvacet> lectus : put live CD in drive and type sfdisk -l
[21:27] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I can ping myself yes
[21:27] <TJ-42> ok, thanks jrib
[21:27] <jrib> lesshaste: what file did I say?
[21:27] <tyler_d3> RITN: smbmount //xx.xx.xx.xx/shared /path/that/exists/locally/ -
[21:27] <tyler_d3> o username=,password=
[21:28] <lectus> zvacet: Ok... I'll try that.
[21:28] <lesshaste> jrib, /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[21:28] <storm-zen> Gnea: Ok.  They are plugged in nice and snug.
[21:28] <lesshaste> jrib, which does exist
[21:28] <|WolF1> raylu: it is the right and fdisk gives me the same, but it says that it is something wrong with ntfs
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: no i meant your systems default gateway. probably 192.168.0.1
[21:28] <raylu> |WolF1: huh? fdisk confirms that it's an ntfs partition but it won't mount?
[21:28] <Gnea> storm-zen: do you hear anything if you use this command:  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[21:28] <raylu> |WolF1: if that's correct, paste the output of mount
[21:28] <jrib> lesshaste: nope, if you scroll up I tried to warn you not to edit that file.  But if you read that file it would let you know what you need to create in /etc/hal/.  However, it seems the wiki already tells you that
[21:28] <whuffor> raylu: Ahh. Very nice. Thank you very much for the help. Much appreciated here. :)
[21:28] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip I can ping 192.168.0.2 haven't tryed 1
[21:28] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: you still here?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: its the ip you put in yur browser to configure the router
[21:28] <raylu> |WolF1: *of the mount command
[21:28] <zvacet> lectus : sorry it it fdisk -l
[21:28] <whuffor> onetinsoldier: Yup
[21:28] <lectus> zvacet: It does nothing. I think it doesn't the detect the HD. Not the partitions.
[21:28] <raylu> whuffor: np
[21:29] <catmando> i'm really, really confused. why isn't sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop stopping gnome?
[21:29] <raylu> zvacet: already told him to do that. and it needs root
[21:29] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: ok. did you see my message about how to choose in aptitude?
[21:29] <lesshaste> jrib, ok thanks.. they really need to fix this :)
[21:29] <whuffor> onetinsoldier: No. I must have missed that in all the mayhem in here
[21:29] <Gnea> catmando: it's stopping the login facility, not your session.
[21:29] <REdian> Could someone help me build a command for mount for a windows NT partition?
[21:29] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: but it looks like raylu most have got it worked out for you
[21:30] <jjules> someone here who can answer my dmraid question?
[21:30] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I cannot ping 192.168.0.1 I get host un-reachable
[21:30] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: i see what you mean, it is very busy in here today
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | REdian
[21:30] <whuffor> onetinsoldier: I just scrolled back and found your message. Thanks :)
[21:30] <storm-zen> Gnea: Kept getting device or resource busy, so I tried it with sudo, heard a slight pop, but the command doesn't appear to be existing.
[21:30] <storm-zen> *exiting
[21:30] <onetinsoldier> whuffor: you're welcome
[21:30] <jrib> lesshaste: even before you had to edit xorg.conf to use gsynaptics, now you just edit a different file.  I agree with you though.  If you search bugs.ubuntu.com, there is a bug which has some tool working without using shmconfig
[21:30] <zvacet> raylu : you are right about root but I mistyped command and if you told hom before me I didn´t saw it
[21:30] <Gnea> storm-zen: that's... disturbing
[21:30] <lesshaste> jrib, ok thanks
[21:30] <|WolF1> raylu: here it is together with the fdisk: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/85314/
[21:30] <catmando> Gnea: so 1) if i restart x, shouldn't i just drop to the cli; 2) how, then do i stop my current session
[21:31] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[21:31] <Gnea> storm-zen: try this:  sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[21:31] <exodus_ms> Is there a command that will list all the commands I have typed into the terminal?
[21:31] <Gnea> catmando: ctrl-alt-f7 and logout of it
[21:31] <Gnea> exodus_ms: history
[21:31] <onetinsoldier> exodus_ms: yes...  less ~/.bash_history
[21:31] <storm-zen> Gnea: Nothing appears to happen.
[21:31] <REdian> Alright, now I'm really confused...apparently I have a "Compaq Diagnostics" type partition...anyone have any idea what that is?
[21:32] <Gnea> storm-zen: when?
[21:32] <exodus_ms> Gnea, thanks
[21:32] <catmando> Gnea: erm, but then i just drop to the login screen. i'm a a fedora user - i'm really thrown by all the runlevels doing the same thing
[21:32] <exodus_ms> onetinsoldier, thank you...
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: i think you need to unassociate the conection then reconnect
[21:32] <onetinsoldier> exodus_ms: yw
[21:32] <storm-zen> Gnea: When I type that command.
[21:32] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I've done that quite a few times
[21:32] <Gnea> storm-zen: which one? there are 2.
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: you could also try: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interface_old
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: then reboot
[21:33] <jjules> someone here who's familiar with dmraid? just a short question. would be nice ...
[21:33] <storm-zen> yes, but you gave it to me as one command, which I typed in as it was displayed.
[21:33] <raylu> |WolF1: could you try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 sdb1"
[21:33] <catmando> Gnea: i need to be able to cleanly halt gnome and stop x
[21:33] <raylu> REdian: mount it and find out :D
[21:33] <AlfredHitchcock> a
[21:33] <REdian> raylu: Hows XD I dunno how to build the string
[21:33] <REdian> raylu: command*
[21:33] <Gnea> catmando: you go to tty1 (same on any linux distro, doesn't matter), you login, you stop the gdm, you go back to tty7 (maybe it's 8 on yours?) and logout of your X session
[21:33] <zvacet> catmando : sudo /etc/init.d/ gdm stop
[21:33] <lectus> zvacet: fdisk -l does nothing. it jumps to the prompt again. I think it's not detecting the HD.
[21:34] <raylu> REdian: in your places menu, you might see the drive
[21:34] <storm-zen> Gnea: Incidentally, it doesn't look like pulseaudio stopped.  I see entries when I do a ps aux | grep pulse.
[21:34] <|WolF1> raylu: it gives me the same responce as i pasted
[21:34] <onetinsoldier> catmando: log out... then  Ctrl+F1, then: invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[21:34] <REdian> lectus: make sure to use sudo fdsik -l
[21:34] <raylu> lectus: sudo fdisk -l
[21:34] <Gnea> storm-zen: try just  sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[21:34] <lectus> I tried both
[21:34] <REdian> raylu: Nope not there :(
[21:34] <lectus> with and without sudo
[21:34] <raylu> |WolF1: does it still say "Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument
[21:34] <|WolF1> raylu: yes it does
[21:35] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: /etc/network/interfaces/ "Not a directory"
[21:35] <raylu> REdian: what's the device name? (/dev/...)
[21:35] <raylu> |WolF1: do you have a windows install handy?
[21:35] <storm-zen> Gnea: Nothing is displayed.  And the three pulseaudio entries are still in the ps aux.
[21:35] <catmando> zvacet: nm
[21:35] <REdian> raylu: /dev/sda1
[21:35] <zvacet> lectus : look inm your fstab gedit /etc/fstab
[21:35] <Gnea> storm-zen: then kill them outright:  killall -9 pulseaudio
[21:35] <raylu> REdian: sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: remove the / from the first thing
[21:35] <raylu> REdian: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[21:35] <storm-zen> Gnea: Ok.
[21:35] <|WolF1> raylu: nah i scrued up vista i only have ubuntu and livecd :S
[21:36] <raylu> lectus: sudo fdisk -l give snothing? inpossible
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: sudo mv /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces_old
[21:36] <catmando> Gnea: i see
[21:36] <REdian> raylu: no errors, lets see...
[21:36] <catmando> onetinsoldier: i need to learn about this invoke thing
[21:36] <REdian> raylu: <33333333 Its there! <3!!!
[21:36] <raylu> |WolF1: yeah, it seems like it... you could try changing the "ntfs" to "ntfs-3g"
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: if you put a / on the end it is assumed to be a folder
[21:36] <lectus> raylu: yes, it just jumps again to the prompt giving nothing.
[21:36] <onetinsoldier> catmando: it's the same thing as doing:  /etc/init.d gdm stop
[21:36] <storm-zen> Gnea: One of them has gone away.  dbus-launch... /usr/bin/pulse-session is still in ps aux....
[21:36] <catmando> Gnea, onetinsoldier: i'll give those a go
[21:36] <lectus> zvacet: I'll take a look.
[21:36] <raylu> lectus: that's really strange. could you show us the output of "mount" and "df -h"?
[21:37] <onetinsoldier> catmando: ok, sounds good
[21:37] <Gnea> storm-zen: try the  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp again
[21:37] <zvacet> lectus : you should see your partitions there
[21:37] <storm-zen> Gnea: Nothing appears to happen.
[21:37] <REdian> raylu: I've been trying to find this partition for like 12 hours xD
[21:37] <REdian> raylu: thank you so much
[21:37] <raylu> REdian: heh, no problem
[21:37] <Gnea> storm-zen: so it's just sitting there? no error messages and no sound/
[21:37] <storm-zen> Gnea: That is correct.
[21:38] <|WolF1> raylu: same thing ...
[21:38] <MarvinPA> ActionParsip: same thing happens
[21:38] <maco> storm-zen: what's the problem? no sound at all in any situations?
[21:38] <storm-zen> maco: Yes.
[21:38] <Gnea> storm-zen: okay, then sound isn't getting to the speakers. it's working as it should. if the speakers were hooked up right, you'd hear static, like when you get a snowy screen on a TV.
[21:38] <maco> storm-zen: please download and run this http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[21:38] <raylu> |WolF1: then i'm out of ideas. as far as i can tell, the disk became corrupted. i'd recommend getting a hold of a windows recovery cd so you can fdisk it
[21:39] <atb101010> Gnea: both Onboard H/W LAN ports (1/2) were enabled in the bios, still cannot see them  under the network manager
[21:39] <lucio12345> hello where is the basket in ubuntu?
[21:39] <maco> storm-zen: then give me the link it gives you
[21:39] <avro> is there a quick terminal command to check what version ubuntu is at. (i'm thinking scripting this to report back for many networked machines - some of which are running outdated versions)
[21:39] <mrwes> sniff....homemade cookies?
[21:39] <lucio12345> i removed some files and i would like to restore it
[21:39] <raylu> avro: lsb_release
[21:39] <|WolF1> raylu: i was scared of that :D thank you bro for the effort, at least i learned some more
[21:39] <maco> lucio12345: oh the tras?
[21:39] <RITN> i follow those directions for the samba mount and it just hangs.
[21:39] <maco> *trash
[21:39] <lucio12345> trash
[21:39] <raylu> avro: you may want to check out uname too
[21:39] <lucio12345> yep
[21:39] <mrwes> avro: uname -r
[21:39] <Gnea> maco: Connecting to alsa-project.org|212.20.107.51|:80... connected.   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
[21:39] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Nothing connects. Not even Pidgin
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: try this: cd /etc/network && sudo mv ./interfaces ./interfaces_old
[21:40] <lucio12345> where is the trash in ubuntu§?
[21:40] <Flannel> !trash | lucio12345
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: oh did you get the file renamed?
[21:40] <Gnea> atb101010: can you please pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[21:40] <maco> lucio12345: just open any file browser and there'll be an option for it on the left
[21:40] <lucio12345> ah oki
[21:40] <mrwes> my wife always makes sure the trash is near the d00r
[21:40] <mrwes> heh
[21:40] <emgy> saludos
[21:40] <onetinsoldier> raylu: the lsb packages don't come installed by default
[21:40] <Flannel> mrwes: Please keep offtopic remarks out of this channel, thanks
[21:40] <lucio12345> thanks
[21:40] <mrwes> emgy: salute amigo mio
[21:40] <maco> emgy: español en #ubuntu-es
[21:41] <storm-zen> maco: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=098f640d2f921e3cee5879d23cfb2c3b6511818c
[21:41] <zvacet> lucio12345 : in your home directory>view hidden files>local if  that is what are you asking
[21:41] <mrwes> Flannel: yes...sorry
[21:41] <emgy> ok
[21:41] <RITN> anyone want to help?
[21:41] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I installed Ubuntu today
[21:41] <onetinsoldier> raylu: i notice i didn't have that lsb_release command available a couple day ago
[21:41] <raylu> onetinsoldier: hrm? i don't remember installing it. do you know which package they are in?
[21:41] <storm-zen> Gnea: Under normal circumstances does that command ever exit?
[21:41] <Flannel> onetinsoldier, raylu: lsb_release should work by default.  lsb_release -a
[21:42] <Gnea> storm-zen: it doesn't exit until you ctrl-c it
[21:42] <storm-zen> ok.
[21:42] <paskiller> how can i add workspace?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: if you rename that file and rebot a new one will be created
[21:42] <gwennn> |WolF1:you can't access vista files?
[21:42] <emgy> wao
[21:42] <StevenX> anyone know how I can change the links under "places" in the menu to another directory? For example, I want "video" to point me to a folder on my ntfs drive
[21:42] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[21:43] <maco> storm-zen: can you run "alsamixer -c0" in a terminal and raise the volume on the Surround mixer elemnt?
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> raylu: perhaps i was wrong! i could have swore i tried the command a couple of days ago and it wasn't there, but i don't recall installing lsb packages. so me thinks i was wrong.
[21:43] <zvacet> paskiller : right click on workspace >settings
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: cd /etc/network && sudo mv ./interfaces ./interfaces_old
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> raylu: wait!
[21:43] <storm-zen> maco: Is that the '3d control' ?
[21:43] <paskiller> but when I change column or lines, it doesnt change anithing
[21:43] <maco> storm-zen: i was going to ask about that one next...
[21:43] <maco> storm-zen: yeah, try putting the volume up on those, and hit M to unmute them
[21:43] <onetinsoldier> raylu: lsb_release    -->  No LSB modules are available.
[21:43] <Flannel> onetinsoldier: right, lsb_release -a
[21:44] <raylu> onetinsoldier: right, you have to use a few flags
[21:44] <onetinsoldier> Ahhh thank you guys!
[21:44] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i hide my desktop icons i.e. hard drives etc? I still want my tool panels to show
[21:44] <storm-zen> maco: Doesn't appear to have done anything.
[21:44] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: run "gconf-editor" in a terminal
[21:44] <selinuxium> hi all, can I install the new version of network-manager on LTS?
[21:44] <zvacet> paskiller You should have option number of work spaces
[21:45] <Pirate_Hunter> maco: than.... ?
[21:45] <paskiller> i have only colomns and lines sets at 1
[21:45] <Whit1> I've got a dell inspiron 3200, with xubuntu 7.10 on it, and my audio doesn't work, it's a cs4237b chipset, i've done googled all i can and found solutions, followed instructions, but still no audio
[21:45] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: /apps/nautilus/desktop
[21:45] <mrwes> Pirate_Hunter: once you run gconf-editor, navigate to nautilus desktop
[21:45] <RITN> ping snappy
[21:45] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: look in there and uncheck what you dont run
[21:45] <maco> *don't want
[21:45] <maco> ah i cant type today
[21:45] <maco> storm-zen:
[21:45] <stevil> hi, i was wondering what the package name for openssh-serve ris in ubuntu 8.10 in the desktop version?
[21:45] <atb101010> Gnea: not sure how i can do that, ubuntu running on another machine and not connected to the network -> can you please pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[21:46] <zaapiel> can you use ext4 with ubuntu?
[21:46] <maco> zaapiel: no
[21:46] <zaapiel> the file system
[21:46] <zaapiel> ok
[21:46] <zaapiel> any plans on that maco ?
[21:46] <mrwes> no
[21:46] <storm-zen> maco: ?
[21:46] <maco> zaapiel: being discussed for the next one
[21:46] <zvacet> 	Pirate_Hunter : apps<nautilus>desktop
[21:46] <zaapiel> k ty
[21:46] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: cd /etc/network: No such file or directory
[21:46] <maco> storm-zen: im reading your alsa-info....hang on
[21:46] <storm-zen> maco: Ok.
[21:46] <Pirate_Hunter> zvacet, maco, ty
[21:46] <atb101010> Gnea: is there anything in particular that you would like me to look at in the output of the dmesg command?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: weird
[21:47] <zaapiel> when is next ubuntu due out maco ?
[21:47] <mike2001> new to ubuntu what do i need for security
[21:47] <selinuxium> stevil: just apt-get install ssh
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: did you check the cd you nistalled from before you installed?
[21:47] <mrwes> mike2001: nuttin'
[21:47] <maco> storm-zen: aplay /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[21:47] <MarvinPA> ActionParship I installed using Wubi
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> mike2001: 1. never log in as root or even try. 2. Enjoy the system
[21:47] <stevil> selinuxium: that package is already installed and it seems to refer to openssh-client , but i want the server
[21:47] <maco> storm-zen: do you hear anything with that?
[21:47] <Amen> hi
[21:47] <stevil> selinuxium: the sshd binary
[21:48] <mike2001> thats what i thought thank you
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: then i have no idea, wubi is a horrble idea imho
[21:48] <MarvinPA> It was the only reccomended way
[21:48] <storm-zen> maco: It says there isn't such a file.
[21:48] <mike2001> but dont think to good
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: you can run live cd or resize partitions to do a full install
[21:48] <maco> mike2001: if you intend to go to a hacker con, you might want tripwire to be sure nobody owned you...because people there tend to actually know exploits for linux...other than that...
[21:48] <maco> storm-zen: ok maybe i fail at paths...
[21:48] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I couldn't resize
[21:49] <maco> storm-zen: do you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:49] <storm-zen> maco: I tried card-shuffle.wav and it didn't work.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: i'm not conversant with any extra stuff wubi could chuck into a system
[21:49] <zaapiel> hey how can i update to ubutnu 8.10 from 8.04?
[21:49] <storm-zen> maco: Ubuntu.
[21:49] <chairman> i need some help.for some reason my cheese webcam software isn't showing no pics
[21:49] <zaapiel> can it be done?
[21:49] <maco> storm-zen: apparently they moved the file between 8.04 and 8.10 -_-
[21:49] <maco> zaapiel: uh, 8.10 is the new one
[21:49] <Flannel> !upgrade | zaapiel
[21:49] <emgy> maco
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: you could try getting a wired connection and getting full updates
[21:50] <maco> zaapiel: oh read that backard. yah, th updater will let you
[21:50] <eternaljoy> how can I install Acrobat for Firefox?
[21:50] <chairman> i click on it and no picture
[21:50] <zaapiel> you're a saint maco !
[21:50] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Wifi is the only way I can connect
[21:50] <Fezzler> HMM.  Network printer Test Page works but doesn't print in applications - AbiWord, etc.
[21:50] <storm-zen> maco: Well, there is a ubuntu path in the path you gave me... let me look there.
[21:50] <maco> storm-zen: dont worry about that
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: then i dunno whatto suggest
[21:50] <Fezzler> I think the applications have old driver but I don't see how to delete and reload driver
[21:50] <maco> storm-zen: you found a .wav so its all good
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: maybe someone else can advise
[21:50] <storm-zen> maco: Ok.  ( It wasn't there anyway. )
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: id definately go for the wired idea though, helps loads
[21:51] <maco> storm-zen: do you by any chance have multiple sound cards in the computer...like an onboard plus another?
[21:51] <lectus> raylu: df -h gives rootfs for the / mount point. That's really strange.
[21:51] <stevil> anyone else running Ubuntu 8.10 and happens to have the ssh server binary installed? because it's not in the default repository
[21:51] <selinuxium> stevil: ssh is a metapackage that installs the client, server and blacklist...    do apt-get search openssh
[21:51] <eternaljoy> how can I install Acrobat plugin for Firefox?
[21:51] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: I'd have my Router down here if I could have a 360 Wifi adapter
[21:51] <raylu> lectus: df -h or mount?
[21:52] <wivk> i'm looking for the drivers for VIA UniChrome (Pro) Family Display Driver
[21:52] <eternaljoy> wivk: ok
[21:52] <kanuha> Whats the best mac-like taskbar to use?
[21:52] <storm-zen> maco: Yes, but the info file looks like they are configured correctly: to disable the onboard that I have a hell of a time getting working with ubuntu and use the cheap PCI.
[21:52] <stevil> selinuxium: it's apt-cache
[21:52] <lectus> rayly: df -h
[21:52] <AndreasMadrid> i installed amule on my linux and it used to run fine. but now when i wanna start it in applications- internet-amule, i get the error that the permissions on the configuration directory are too strict. but i didn't chnage them, and b4 it worked. what went wrong?
[21:52] <lectus> raylu*
[21:52] <stevil> selinuxium: and even apt-cache search openssh doesn't display the ssh server package
[21:52] <storm-zen> maco: Info file - alsa-project info file.
[21:52] <maco> storm-zen: is the other disabled *in the BIOS*?
[21:52] <selinuxium> stevil: yep, sorry...
[21:52] <AndreasMadrid> and what permissions should i give to the directory /usr/local/bin?
[21:52] <maco> storm-zen: because disabling it in software could be um...issueful
[21:52] <storm-zen> maco: It should be.  I haven't gone into the BIOS since I disabled it there.
[21:52] <wivk> the VIA website only has for ubuntu 7.10. is there one for 8.10 ?
[21:52] <lectus> raylu: i'll ask her about what mount returns... just a sec...
[21:52] <eseven73> !info openssh
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: whats a 360 wifi adapter?
[21:53] <eseven73> !info openssh-server
[21:53] <maco> storm-zen: ok. just wanted to check it wasnt trying th other one
[21:53] <stevil> ubottu: well that's definitely not my my list
[21:53] <storm-zen> maco: Any way to see what the system is trying to use?
[21:53] <sergeykish1> Hello, I have a problem - linux doesn't see partitions on my HDD, but fdisk it see and I can boot in Windows using chainload, can you help me?
[21:53] <maco> wivk: you mean xserver-xorg-video-via?
[21:53] <raylu> ActionParsnip: xbox 360, i assume
[21:53] <stevil> eseven73: on which distribution did you run this apt-cache search openssh ?
[21:53] <maco> storm-zen: i wanted to check that the one shown in alsa-info is the right one :P
[21:53] <wivk> i don't know, the 8.10 didn't auto uinstlal the drivers for it
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> raylu: yeah they make me laugh, they cost 10 times more than any other cos microsoft made it
[21:54] <eseven73> i didnt stevil
[21:54] <raylu> sergeykish1: what do you mean "linux" doesn't see partitions?
[21:54] <zvacet> wivk:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[21:54] <Pirate_Hunter> isit me or most items in intrepid dont work well, some are aksing to install tango which is installed and others are asking for other gtk themes :/
[21:54] <raylu> ActionParsnip: and you can tunnel a connection through a computer
[21:54] <chairman> anyone got any suggestion on how i can work my webcam on Ibex?
[21:54] <wivk> Reading state information... Done
[21:54] <wivk> E: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-video-via
[21:54] <sergeykish1> raylu: where is no partitions in /dev
[21:54] <maco> wivk: woah, you're right...that doesnt exist in intrepid. but then intrepid does odd things for drivers
[21:54] <sergeykish1> raylu: only /dev/sda no more
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> wivk: apt-cache search via | grep server
[21:55] <raylu> sergeykish1: ls /dev/hd*
[21:55] <eseven73> stevil: you might have something disabled in your synaptic preferences
[21:55] <stevil> eseven73: like what perhaps ?
[21:55] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Wifi adaptor for the Xbox 360
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: yep, made to scam folks good
[21:55] <sergeykish1> raylu: fdisk -l /dev/sda prints partitions, but there is no this partitions in /dev
[21:55] <raylu> sergeykish1: that's um...impossible
[21:56] <storm-zen> maco: I dont' know a lot about the card.. It just worked when I plugged it in, and I really thought I had found one that would continue to work.  I've been struggling with sound since I got this computer and switched to ubuntu, except for that apparently one happy accident when everything worked great in gutsy...
[21:56] <sergeykish1> raylu: it is broken now, works good early
[21:56] <Walty> can anyone help me get a mp3 file to play on my website?
[21:56] <eseven73> stevil: not sure, just look in synaptic preferences to see if something needs enabling
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: move the xbox close to the router and use wired, dont they have wired connectors by default
[21:56] <MarvinPA> Yeah.
[21:56] <Hayig2000> #arabeyes
[21:56] <MarvinPA> Both is upstares.
[21:56] <sergeykish1> raylu: I've tried DVDboot using GRUB
[21:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me if vlc has an aka?
[21:56] <MarvinPA> I'm downstaes
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: have you installed ubuntu on the xbox?
[21:56] <wivk> ok, what am i looking for? all it pulls up for drivers is already the newest. so in 8.10, is there a screens & graphs where i can manually set my driver?
[21:57] <vinay> is digikam-kde4 available on intrepid with an official source?
[21:57] <Hayig2000> Sorry
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> wivk: that command will show the via driver you can install, by default its already on, you just need to configure the system to use that driver
[21:57] <sergeykish1> raylu: so now in boot Ubuntu starts and breaks on mount /root
[21:57] <StErMi> hi all, there's a way to update all packages using only the shell? i mean, which is the commands?
[21:57] <storm-zen> maco: Hey, what does this mean? "Simple mixer control 'Master',0 "
[21:57] <wivk> ActionParsnip, dpkg-reconfigure ?
[21:57] <maco> storm-zen: thats just your master slider
[21:57] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Haha, No. I've installed Ubuntu on PC. Wich is downstares, My router and 360 is upstares, I have Router upstares to connect to 360
[21:58] <maco> storm-zen: it's at 87% and unmuted
[21:58] <kanuha> Whats the best mac-like taskbar to use?
[21:58] <storm-zen> maco: Ok... I see that now.
[21:58] <MarvinPA> Real Mac
[21:59] <zvacet> wivk : system>preferences>main menu<other screens& graphic check it to see it under apps and select openchrome driver
[21:59] <simplexio> StErMi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:59] <eseven73> whats the rsync command to ignore a folder? i know its something like --exclude something or another
[21:59] <maco> storm-zen: is it just speakers dont work or are headphones bad too?
[21:59] <kanuha> MarvinPA, thx, but on linux?
[21:59] <StErMi> simplexio and for distro upgrade?
[21:59] <maco> eseven73: --exclude=FILE
[21:59] <maco> eseven73: its in the manpage
[21:59] <eseven73> ok ty maco
[21:59] <simplexio> StErMi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> MarvinPA: you could move the pc to get updated
[21:59] <StErMi> ok
[21:59] <StErMi> ty
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> wivk: what sis it it?
[22:00] <MarvinPA> ActionParsnip: Maybe
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> wivk: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:00] <storm-zen> maco:  Don't hear anything in the headphones.
[22:00] <AndreasMadrid> i installed amule on my linux and it used to run fine. but now when i wanna start it in applications- internet-amule, i get the error that the permissions on the configuration directory are too strict. but i didn't chnage them, and b4 it worked. what went wrong?
[22:00] <AndreasMadrid> and what permissions should i give to the directory /usr/local/bin?
[22:01] <storm-zen> maco: Ist here a way to tell what was installed in the last system update?  Just did one yesterday.
[22:01] <maco> storm-zen: did it work just up until yesterday?
[22:01] <storm-zen> specifically, it worked until I turned on my computer today.
[22:02] <egc> can anybody recommend photo album software i can run on ubuntu to put pictures online?
[22:02] <maco> storm-zen: was there an update that told youto reboot?
[22:02] <wivk> zvacet : i have no option for screens&graphs in that option
[22:02] <storm-zen> maco: I don't recall, sorry.  But I shut it down over night.
[22:03] <maco> storm-zen: ok, well if you run "ls -lArt /var/cache/apt/archives/" the most recently updated packages will be listed at the bottom of the screen
[22:03] <zvacet> wivk : I´m on Hardy so maybe something is changed in itrepid but they have to be somewhere there
[22:03] <maco> storm-zen: see anything about linux-image or something modules?
[22:03] <allsystemsarego> egc, kflickr
[22:03] <wivk> hardy was/is awesome, i'm thinking about just going back to it
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> egc: apt-cache search photo | grep -i album
[22:04] <maco> zvacet: it doesnt exist in intrepid
[22:04] <maco> zvacet: screens & graphics, that is
[22:05] <maco> bgamari: hey! bit o' help with wivk?
[22:05] <wivk> heh, i just need to know how to set my correct video driver
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> wivk: what does the output of the command say?
[22:05] <zvacet> maco :tnx but tell it to wivk he was interested in
[22:05] <wivk> what command?
[22:05] <Pirate_Hunter> my panel doesnt compeletly hide bits of it still get shown, what options do i need to change?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> wivk: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:05] <bgamari> maco, wivk?
[22:05] <maco> wivk: thats why im trying to get bgamari. he knows how to use the xrandr magic :P
[22:05] <raylu> woohooo
[22:05] <storm-zen> maco: For 12/13, all I seem to see is a directory, 'partial'.
[22:06] <raylu> i've finally got a usable virtual machine setup
[22:06] <bgamari> maco, ahhh, xrandr
[22:06] <maco> storm-zen: anything within the last couple days?
[22:06] <bgamari> maco, sure
[22:06] <wivk> VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01)
[22:06] <maco> bgamari: help wivk set his video driver, please?
[22:06] <bgamari> wivk, what's going on?
[22:07] <bgamari> wivk, alright, I don't have too much experience with via hardware, but we'll figure it out
[22:07] <wivk> the driver isn't installed, cause i can't seem to get my basic compiz eye candy working
[22:07] <Pirate_Hunter> my panel doesnt compeletly hide bits of it still get shown, what options do i need to change?
[22:07] <kolombino> somebody has installed ubuntu in samsung nc10?
[22:07] <storm-zen> maco: closest thing might be compiz-fusion-plugins-main... other than the 'partial' path.... should that path be there?  Nothing else is listed for the 13th...
[22:07] <chairman> hello
[22:07] <bgamari> wivk, the driver isn't installed?
[22:07] <raylu> !hi | chairman
[22:07] <averagedavid> this has probably been asked before but...I just first heard about ubuntu a couple weeks ago and decided to install as dual boot along with windows but I am getting an error message on reboot after install. Any willingn to help?
[22:07] <wivk> the system 'claims' it's not
[22:07] <maco> storm-zen: sure...is anything in partial? its where half-downloaded packages usually go
[22:07] <bgamari> wivk, you're using unichrome?
[22:07] <raylu> !ask | averagedavid
[22:08] <chairman> i had asked a ? about cheese
[22:08] <storm-zen> maco: Evidently not...
[22:08] <sharperguy> Is it possible to get video acceleration on the hp mininote (2133) on ubuntu 8.10/
[22:08] <wivk> VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 [S3 UniChrome Pro] (
[22:08] <bgamari> wivk, ahh, alright
[22:08] <cafuego> chairman: Then answer is that all cheese belongs to me.
[22:08] <bgamari> wivk, with the 'via' xorg driver?
[22:08] <Vantrax> mmmm cheese
[22:08] <wivk> yes it's onboard, but it should be able to manage basic 3d just fine
[22:08] <cafuego> Vantrax: MINE
[22:08] <chairman> no the webcam software
[22:08] <bgamari> wivk, definitely
[22:08] <onetinsoldier> does anyone know if it would really mess up anything of real importance for a simple desktop user like me to change the 'relatime' mount option in my /etc/fstab file to 'noatime'?
[22:08] <wivk> i do'nt know what it's using cause i can't fuind the screens & graphs option
[22:08] <bgamari> wivk, you're getting x started just fine?
[22:08] <jeremy_> Hi, could somebody please help me out?
[22:09] <wivk> x starts fine, yes
[22:09] <maco> !anyone | jeremy_
[22:09] <bgamari> wivk, do you mind pastebinning your xorg.0.log
[22:09] <jeremy_> I have a question regarding setting the glmatrix screensaver as my desktop wallpaper
[22:09] <averagedavid> I install off of CD version 8.04 inside of windows onto secondary drive- on reboot I get error 15 file not found. what am i doing wrong?
[22:09] <AutoMatriX> how do I make a server with a dynamic IP to be reachable from the internet ?
[22:09] <chairman> mines doesn't show no picture
[22:09] <wivk> you want xorg.0.conf, or xorg.conf ?
[22:09] <bthompson> ok i am able to get my system to boot from flash drive now that i ran the usb-creator from the livecd...however when i try to run the system updates it fails saying no space left on device
[22:09] <jeremy_> I'm a bit confused, I've tried xwinwrap and that only sets the entire screen black and doesn't even show the screensaver
[22:09] <bthompson> how can i run the system from flash drive and also run the system updates
[22:09] <Pirate_Hunter> my panel doesnt compeletly hide bits of it still get shown, what options do i need to change?
[22:09] <bgamari> wivk, /var/log/xorg.0.log
[22:09] <jeremy_> And the only thing I could do is set compiz effects to none and then turn off desktop
[22:10] <jeremy_> And THEN I can see glmatrix
[22:10] <wivk> bgamari, ok.
[22:10] <jeremy_> but is there any way to do it but keep compiz?
[22:10] <bthompson> when i ran the usb-creator I gave it a persistent space of 6.9 gb's
[22:10] <maco> averagedavid: probably grub is installed on the wrong drive. i havent done anything with grub in um...at least a year though, so not sure how to get it to the right drive...
[22:10] <wivk> bgamari, there is no such log found
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> back
[22:10] <chairman> can someone help me please
[22:10] <exodus_ms> How can I use 'dpkg --get-selections > installed-software' to see software installed after a certain date?
[22:10] <jeremy_> !help chairman
[22:11] <jeremy_> !help
[22:11] <chairman> with my cheese webcam software
[22:11] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: in gconf-editor, apps/panel/global
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !ask | chairman
[22:11] <onetinsoldier> its like this
[22:11] <jeremy_> OK  thanks action
[22:11] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: change "panel_minimized_size" i believe
[22:11] <bgamari> wivk, one second,
[22:11] <onetinsoldier> !help | chairman
[22:11] <Pirate_Hunter> maco: ty will try
[22:11] <averagedavid> thx, maco. but still square 1.
[22:11] <egc> allsystemsarego: thanks for the suggestion ;)
[22:11] <chairman> i asked a question earlier if you read it
[22:12] <bgamari> wivk, oh, sorry, capital X
[22:12] <bgamari> wivk, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:12] <wivk> yea i just noticed that too. sorry
[22:12] <bgamari> quite alright
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> chairman: whats up with it?
[22:12] <jeremy_> I need help setting up xwinwrap to set glmatrix as my desktop wallpaper, but when I use the command to turn it on the screen turns black and I have to type ALT + F4 to see my windows again, Can anybody help me with tihs please?
[22:12] <averagedavid> how do i change the grub to the right drive?
[22:12] <maco> averagedavid: well if you boot from the live cd, you can run "install-grub" or "grub-install" (i forget which way the name goes :( ) and then tell it where to install, im just not familiar with how to use that command. if you use "man grub-install" (i think its that one), it can tell you how to use it though
[22:12] <onetinsoldier> chairman: perhaps.. but it's very busy in here..at least today. just use you're recall key, the up-arrow key to post the question again without ever having to re-type it!
[22:13] <chairman> i click on it and no picture shows . it never did tht before
[22:13] <jeremy_> I need help setting up xwinwrap to set glmatrix as my desktop wallpaper, but when I use the command to turn it on the screen turns black and I have to type ALT + F4 to see my windows again, Can anybody help me with tihs please?
[22:13] <averagedavid> thx, maco will try.
[22:13] <bgamari> wivk, one issue that we might end up having is that the card might not support non-power-of-two texture sizes
[22:13] <diffred> Ok, in my xorg.conf file I've got Load "glx", will I mess up my system if I add Load "dri" and Load "CLcore"?
[22:13] <maco> jeremy_: you mentioned compiz before. without compiz, does it work?
[22:13] <jeremy_> Yes
[22:13] <wivk> bgamari,  http://pastebin.ca/1285443
[22:13] <chairman> anyone got any suggestion on how i can work my webcam on Ibex?
[22:14] <jeremy_> But I would like to be able to use it WITH compiz, as I know xwinwrap should be able to do
[22:14] <bgamari> wivk, alright, good
[22:14] <wivk> xwinwrap and compiz work fine for me on 8.04
[22:14] <maco> storm-zen: thats um...weird.  do you dual boot with windows? sometimes windows settings persist in hardware and mess it up...
[22:14] <bgamari> wivk, what does compiz say when you try to start it?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> diffred: you'll find its GLcore
[22:14] <sergeykish1> How can it be - fdisk view partitions, but they are not in /dev?
[22:14] <jeremy_> maco: I got it working without compiz by just running the screensaver as the root window, but I need to get xwinwrap working and there is like NO DOCUMENTATION on this lol
[22:14] <storm-zen> maco: Nope.  Windows free since FC6.
[22:14] <bgamari> wivk, (run LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace)
[22:14] <JacaByte> Alright, I've got an annoying problem.
[22:15] <jeremy_> !ask jacabyte
[22:15] <JacaByte> I'm trying to install Hardy on a Newworld G4 Mac
[22:15] <diffred> ActionParsnip: how can I check if I have "dri" and "GLcore" able to Load them in xorg.conf?
[22:15] <jeremy_> !ask
[22:15] <wivk> bgamari,  unable to start desktop effects
[22:15] <jeremy_> maco: I got it working without compiz by just running the screensaver as the root window, but I need to get xwinwrap working and there is like NO DOCUMENTATION on this lol
[22:15] <viraptor> hi - I'm on Ibex and my sound stopped working (alsa & pulseaudio) - I get only "main.c: daemon startup without any loaded modules, refusing to work" from pulseaudio --system - any ideas?
[22:15] <maco> storm-zen: :( i'm sorry. i'm out of ideas besides filing a bug on it. and test with the jaunty daily live cd
[22:15] <bgamari> wivk, try running the command I mentioned above
[22:15] <Vantrax> jeremy_, try !ask | <name>
[22:15] <bgamari> wivk, from the terminal
[22:15] <wivk> ok, how? just like that in terminal ?
[22:15] <jeremy_> !ask | vantrax
[22:15] <jeremy_> ooook
[22:15] <bgamari> wivk, it should give us something a bit more informative
[22:15] <jeremy_> I'm still learning :D
[22:15] <Vantrax> thats ok
[22:16] <perillux> it there anyway to turn off a laptop screen in ubuntu?  when I set it to turn off after a certain amount of time it just blanks the screen it doesn't turn off the backlight, and I actually notice some very strange light patterns showing up on my screen which shouldn't be there.  It looks like if you press down on a lcd screen and you see wierd colors.  I would just like whenever my screensaver kicks in, to somehow disable the screen.  Any i
[22:16] <storm-zen> maco: Any volume switches we missed?
[22:16] <maco> jeremy_: are you able to use xwinwrap without compiz? maybe your graphics driver doesnt like running both?
[22:16] <wivk> bgamari,  (run LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace)
[22:16] <wivk> errm
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> wivk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76037&page=2
[22:16] <jeremy_> I'll try that
[22:16] <maco> storm-zen: there are some other 3D ones in there that you can try
[22:16] <wivk> bgamari,  says unable to find command run
[22:16] <onetinsoldier> does anyone know if it would really mess up anything of real importance for a simple desktop user like me to change the 'relatime' mount option in my /etc/fstab file to 'noatime'?
[22:16] <storm-zen> maco: I found some sort of 'reset' command a while back which made everything magically work...
[22:16] <maco> storm-zen: updats shouldnt change your volume settings for you though :-/
[22:16] <bgamari> bgamari, heh, sorry about that
[22:16] <FluxD> Hi, where can I find apache ant error logs on Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:16] <bgamari> wivk, let's try this again. run
[22:17] <storm-zen> maco: .. but I don't remember what it was.  ( It said I'd only have to do it once... )
[22:17] <bgamari> LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace
[22:17] <gaminggeek> perillux: right click on the battery on your panel and go to preferences
[22:17] <mrwes> re
[22:17] <Vantrax> onetinsoldier, go ahead, as long as you have a livecd it cant hurt, you can always change it back
[22:17] <maco> storm-zen: uh, idk about reset (an alsa dev was mentioning the need for one after our friend totally borked his sound) but i know about reload...
[22:17] <wivk> IVK:/var/log$ run
[22:17] <wivk> bash: run: command not found
[22:17] <wivk> wivk@WIVK:/var/log$
[22:17] <crimsun> storm-zen: please run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[22:17] <maco> bgamari: you're talking to yourself :P
[22:17] <Vantrax> onetinsoldier, best way to learn is to have a go
[22:17] <diffred> Ok, in my xorg.conf file I've got Load "glx", will I mess up my system if I add Load "dri" and Load "CLcore"??
[22:17] <maco> crimsun: he alrady has
[22:17] <maco> crimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=098f640d2f921e3cee5879d23cfb2c3b6511818c
[22:18] <gaminggeek> perillux:  and then move the slider that says put display to sleep when inactive for: to the appropriate time :)
[22:18] <jeremy_> maco: OK, I turned off compiz and now when I set the command the screen turns 100% into the glmatrix screensaver instead of just black, but I still have no control over my windows or desktop
[22:18] <wivk> bgamari,  wivk@WIVK:/var/log$  LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 compiz --replace
[22:18] <wivk> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[22:18] <wivk> No whitelisted driver found
[22:18] <wivk> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[22:18] <FloodBot2> wivk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:18] <zvacet> JacaByte : look http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=53122414
[22:18] <bgamari> maco, Yep, I do that occassionally. both in the real-world and online. I wonder if there's a relationship there
[22:18] <maco> crimsun: he says since yesterday, no sound output. his drivers load fine, volume is up, and there were no -modules or linux-image updates in the last few days
[22:18] <storm-zen> sweet.  THanks, maco. :)  I was looking for where I put that. ;)
[22:18] <bgamari> wivk, ahhh
[22:18] <TJ-42> in fstab, why is there a defaults option?  aren't the defaults, well default?
[22:18] <CentHOGG> hi, what's the command for blank spaces for windows shares... i remember something like \040 ... thx
[22:18] <crimsun> storm-zen: there's a typo in your /etc/asound.conf (see the ctl.pulse stanza)
[22:18] <FluxD> Hi, where can I find apache ant error logs on Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> CentHOGG: use\ something\ like\ this
[22:19] <raylu> FluxD: ant = ?
[22:19] <DasEi> ﻿ CentHOGG:try "
[22:19] <storm-zen> crimsun: Sure enough.
[22:19] <FluxD> raylu, java compiler
[22:19] <onetinsoldier> Vantrax: roger.. i thought about 'just do it', but also thought it couldn't hurt to ask, someone might know something.. like it just causes problems for 'mutt', or perhaps as large as the mail system in general. but i'll just do it
[22:19] <crimsun> storm-zen: also, as of intrepid, both your ~/.asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf are obsolete
[22:19] <JacaByte> Okay, all in one line, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy) on a MDD G4 Mac. It's a pretty new machine. I'm using the desktop (better known as live) installation of it and am having trouble getting the installer to work. It hangs on the partitioner. There are three hard disks installed in this thing, one has OS X, one has OS 9, and one has NTFS and FAT32 patitions on it with an old,...
[22:19] <JacaByte> ...defunct installation of Windows XP. Any ideas?
[22:19] <bgamari> wivk, can you pastebin the output of glxinfo?
[22:19] <maco> crimsun: so is the typo even relevant in intrepid?
[22:19] <imachine> sup
[22:19] <srx2002> hi guys, I have a few quick questions
[22:19] <perillux> gaminggeek: ive done that, that is what causes the problem.  My screensaver works fine, but when it "puts the display to sleep" it doesn't actually turn it off, it just goes blank and then starts to show strange colors (the colors are similar to what it would look like if trying to run a resolution higher then your monitor will allow).  I want to completely turn off the monitor though, no backlight even.
[22:19] <imachine> I have an issue with nvidia modules, can't really get it to work.
[22:19] <JacaByte> I've never gotten help out of the forum.
[22:19] <imachine>  wanted to migrate from 177 to 173 on 8.10
[22:19] <storm-zen> crimsun: So.. uh... I don't need to worry about it, then?
[22:20] <RITN> dammit, i followed the directions on the samba wike and it still will not let me copyfiles to the share.  the share permissions are right etc, but it still will not work.  Help
[22:20] <imachine> and it just failed to load.
[22:20] <imachine> what's the magic behind the whole modalias stuff ?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> JacaByte: did you md5 check the image you downloaded as well as check the cd for defects?
[22:20] <srx2002> can programs like k3b work in gnome?
[22:20] <imachine> srx2002, yes
[22:20] <storm-zen> crimsun: Was just trying to follow instructions from * to get anything working, a while back.
[22:20] <raylu> JacaByte: are you using guided or manual partitioning?
[22:20] <JacaByte> I didn't do an MD5 on the image, but I did verify the disk.
[22:20] <zleap> hi
[22:20] <srx2002> no problems?
[22:20] <gaminggeek> perillux: hmm that is very odd never seen that before are you sure that isnt your screensaver?
[22:20] <zvacet> JacaByte : it it very hard to believe it did you ask under apple users
[22:20] <crimsun> storm-zen: erase them
[22:20] <JacaByte> raylu: I can't use either because it hangs just before then.
[22:20] <zleap> does ubuntu have a firewall?
[22:20] <storm-zen> crimsun: Ok.
[22:20] <JacaByte> zvacet: yes.
[22:21] <imachine> srx2002, none that I'd know about. why would you have problems anyway? they may not blend in with nautilus or so well, but they work
[22:21] <bgamari> wivk, although we might be running across some driver shortcomings, http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DStatus
[22:21] <crimsun> storm-zen: we already ship the necessary bits in the libasound2-plugins package
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | zleap
[22:21] <raylu> JacaByte: gksu gparted
[22:21] <zleap> yeah
[22:21] <JacaByte> Tried gpart, it hangs too.
[22:21] <crimsun> storm-zen: next, have you forcibly reset the mixer element levels?
[22:21] <perillux> gaminggeek: nope, not the screensaver
[22:21] <crimsun> storm-zen: e.g., sudo service alsa-utils reset
[22:21] <raylu> JacaByte: hrm. sudo fdisk -l
[22:21] <zleap> i don't know if someone is trying to affect my connection from the out side, or if there is a hardware fault on the router
[22:21] <zleap> it just keeps dropping
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> JacaByte: is the cd you are usingconsistant?
[22:21] <storm-zen> crimsun: Not yet.  Doing that now.
[22:21] <zleap> oddly if i connect to webpages
[22:21] <gaminggeek> perillux: hmm what graphics chip do you have?
[22:22] <CyberCod> !tvout
[22:22] <JacaByte> raylu: what exactly will that do?
[22:22] <bgamari> wivk, you still with us?
[22:22] <happy_mart> cd #django
[22:22] <JacaByte> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by consistant?
[22:22] <wivk> x locked up
[22:22] <perillux> gaminggeek: a very old one.  S3
[22:22] <neosisani> hi, friend tried to install nvidia prop driver and his screen got stuck in 320x240 resolution. Trying to set to 1024x768 in screen resolution doesn't work, and wiki is only telling me to use some gui option. Any idea how to fix this?
[22:22] <storm-zen> crimsun: Got an amixer error: Invalid command!  Invalid card number.
[22:22] <Fly-Man-> Evening
[22:22] <gaminggeek> perillux: oh dear :/ are you running intrepid?
[22:23] <Fly-Man-> Quick Question:
[22:23] <perillux> gaminggeek: yes
[22:23] <coolerguy> hi all, i'm running VLC 0.8.6e on an Ubuntu 8.04 machine. My problem is that whenever i open a new video file by clicking on it, VLC opens a new player window. I would like it to replace whatever is playing with the new video file, or alternately, add the new file to the playlist in the currently-playing window. how is this accomplished?
[22:23] <wivk> bgamari, pasting noew
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> JacaByte: the image you burned passed md5 check and the burned cd was correct
[22:23] <zvacet> JacaByte Run md5 check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[22:23] <Fly-Man-> Where can I find the 9.04 Server edition for Alpha testing ?
[22:23] <egc> ActionParsnip: thanks for the suggestion earlier, great answer ;)
[22:23] <raylu> JacaByte: list your drives/partitions
[22:23] <maco> crimsun: he has 2 sound cards. one is disabled in the bios.
[22:23] <imachine> any help then ?
[22:23] <chairman> anyone got any suggestion on how i can work my webcam on Ibex?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> egc: use it for all software questions like that
[22:23] <gaminggeek> perillux: sorry I dont really know about S3 cards maybe look on the forums?
[22:23] <JacaByte> Okay, I'll do that real quick.
[22:23] <pk> hello, I can not get my usb drive to be visible in ubuntu. I am not sure it is recognized and I can not mount it (I am completely new to ubuntu); the result of sudo fdisk -l http://paste.ubuntu.com/85328/
[22:23] <JacaByte> Once I find the image I downloaded again.
[22:23] <egc> ActionParsnip: i will now too, thx again
[22:24] <perillux> gaminggeek: ok thanks for ur help
[22:24] <crimsun> maco: irrelevant, there's only one whose drivers are loaded
[22:24] <lesshaste> any good games for ubuntu? I don't mind if they are simple
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> egc: np bro, learning is good :)
[22:24] <wivk> bgamari, http://pastebin.ca/1285453
[22:24] <zleap> so what am i looking for
[22:24] <gaminggeek> perillux: no problem :)
[22:24] <Fly-Man-> Anyone ?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: frets on fire, urban terror, tux racer
[22:24] <maco> crimsun: i thought the "card number" part had to do iwth it
[22:24] <RITN> could someone please help?
[22:24] <Vantrax> pk, how big is the USB HDD?
[22:24] <zleap> ok i get all ports are closed
[22:24] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I tried frets on fire once.. it didn't really work.. I'll take a look at urban terror thanks
[22:24] <pk> 1GB
[22:24] <imachine> raylu, you've always seemed to be well informed.
[22:25] <zleap> what would indicate a hardware fault with a router
[22:25] <imachine> raylu, care to lend a hand mate?
[22:25] <Vantrax> pk, not visible in fdisk then
[22:25] <diffred> hey
[22:25] <zleap> as i seem to go offline when i connect to webpages
[22:25] <lesshaste> is there a linux games channel?
[22:25] <Vantrax> pk, other usb sticks work?
[22:25] <imachine> lesshaste, you can try playdeb.net
[22:25] <diffred> how can I check if I have openGL so I can run C code like windows starting with Ok, in my xorg.conf file I've got Load "glx", will I mess up my system if I add Load "dri" and Load "CLcore"?
[22:25] <gaminggeek> lesshaste: #gametome #lgp
[22:25] <diffred> oh sorry misscopy
[22:25] <Fly-Man-> Thank you :)
[22:25] <n8tuser> zleap-> you are connected now and chatting on same faulty router?
[22:25] <zleap> yeah
[22:25] <zleap> but it then goes off
[22:25] <zleap> or disconnects
[22:25]  * Fly-Man- got a PM with the right location for the 9.04 Alpha
[22:25] <diffred> #include<windows.h>
[22:25] <diffred> #include<gl/gl.h>
[22:25] <diffred> #include<gl/glu.h>
[22:25] <diffred>          ###Ubuntu equivalent??
[22:25] <bgamari> wivk, ahhh, that's the issue
[22:25] <FloodBot2> diffred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <imachine> zleap, reset it, try to update the firmware.
[22:25] <wivk> bgamari, ok ?
[22:25] <zleap> ok
[22:25] <raylu> imachine: er, with what?
[22:26] <zleap> ok
[22:26] <lesshaste> thanks imachine and gaminggeek
[22:26] <zvacet> Fly-Man- : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/
[22:26] <bgamari> wivk, the driver currently doesn't support the TEXTURE_FROM_PIXMAP extension
[22:26] <imachine> raylu, I've tried migrating from 177 nvidia to 173 on 8.10
[22:26] <imachine> raylu, it failed ;)
[22:26] <storm-zen> crimsun: is .asoundrc a path that I should delete?
[22:26] <crimsun> storm-zen: does `amixer' return anything?
[22:26] <RITN> nice
[22:26] <bgamari> wivk, It seems that via's own driver might support it though
[22:26] <zleap> it seems stable at the moment, since i unplugged it
[22:26] <RITN> nice help channel
[22:26] <raylu> imachine: why did you want the downgrade?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> pk: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1 && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -t vfat
[22:26] <pk> usb is fine, I have ubuntu also on a old laptop, and the usb is recognized/mounted automatically there. i have problems only on my desktop (hardy 8.04)
[22:26] <bgamari> wivk, http://linux.via.com.tw/support/downloadFiles.action
[22:26] <n8tuser> zleap-> connected to it in wireless mode?
[22:26] <imachine> raylu, I used the drivers manager, clicked "enable" and it told me reboot.
[22:26] <zleap> then plugged it back in again
[22:26] <crimsun> storm-zen: you should have deleted both /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc*
[22:26] <wivk> bgamari, , via's own drivers don't go aboovee 7.10
[22:26] <zleap> i don't have wireless
[22:26] <imachine> raylu, artifacts on window title bars.
[22:26] <zleap> just wired
[22:26] <raylu> imachine: is 177 removed?
[22:26] <wivk> bgamari,  thats why i'm here.
[22:27] <imachine> raylu, a known issue, resolved with 1.80. but 1.80 is not there yet.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> pk: that'll give you access to the first partition on the usb drive (/dev/sdb)
[22:27] <imachine> raylu, hmm
[22:27] <imachine> raylu, I don't know ? :)
[22:27] <imachine> raylu, how can I check; I believe if I chose to enable 173, it conflicts with 177, so it would get removed automatically.
[22:27] <raylu> imachine: aptitude search nvidia
[22:27] <n8tuser> !who | zleap
[22:27] <zleap> sorry
[22:28] <Vantrax> pk, not sure pk if its not listed in fstab it means the system isnt detecting the usb key. Thats typically a driver issue
[22:28] <imachine> raylu, well, 173-kernel-source is 'i'
[22:28] <imachine> i A
[22:28] <egc> looks like gallery2 will do the trick
[22:28] <raylu> imachine: and 177?
[22:28] <imachine> nvidia-173 is A
[22:28] <imachine> er, i
[22:28] <imachine> raylu, modaliases is installed.
[22:28] <storm-zen> crimsun: Ok... that also deleted ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf.  Yes, amixer returns screenfulls of data
[22:28] <lesshaste> imachine, they need a rating system.. it's not your website is it?
[22:28] <imachine> nvidia-177-modaliases.
[22:29] <diffred> #include<windows.h>
[22:29] <diffred> #include<gl/gl.h>
[22:29] <diffred> #include<gl/glu.h>
[22:29] <diffred> ###Ubuntu equivalent?
[22:29] <FloodBot2> diffred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <crimsun> storm-zen: same for `amixer -c0'?
[22:29] <kristopher> server irc.brad-x.com
[22:29] <imachine> lesshaste, no.
[22:29] <lesshaste> imachine, shame :)
[22:29] <storm-zen> crimsun: yes.
[22:29] <imachine> lesshaste, it's "in the works". I was going to make a mirror for it, but I can't get about to set up apache on my server.
[22:29] <imachine> I might do it some time in the week.
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> diffred: are you compiling apps for windows?
[22:29] <crimsun> storm-zen: good, does `sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset' still give you the same error message?
[22:30] <lesshaste> imachine, OK.. if you do can you add a rating system please :)
[22:30] <lesshaste> imachine, it's a little unhelpful as a simple list with no reviews or scores
[22:30] <diffred> ActionParsnip: nope just want to make my helloworld openGL in ubuntu
[22:30] <imachine> lesshaste, dunno; like I said, it's not my page.
[22:30] <JacaByte> The MD5sum on the image checks out.
[22:30] <lesshaste> imachine, I assume there is standard code for that sort of thing these days as loads of web pages have it
[22:30] <imachine> you can always e-mail the maintaners.
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> diffred: as long as you have those libs it'll work
[22:30] <crimsun> storm-zen: (also, make sure you're using alsa-utils 1.0.17-0ubuntu3 from intrepid-updates)
[22:30] <storm-zen> crimsun: Yes.  It prints the general help about 15 times...
[22:31] <raylu> diffred: it wouldn't be ubuntu specific. the code should work across linux distros, so try asking in an opengl support area
[22:31] <sergeykish1> diffred: #include <windows.h> on Ubuntu?
[22:31] <diffred> ActionParsnip: the problem is that those libs are the windows-openGL
[22:31] <imachine> lesshaste, I'm sure they will appreciate the help, if you're willing to help out :)
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> diffred: i'd jump into #c++
[22:31] <bgamari> wivk, eh?
[22:31] <bgamari> wivk, http://linux.via.com.tw/support/beginDownload.action?eleid=222&fid=483 ?
[22:31] <lesshaste> imachine, :)
[22:31] <imachine> raylu, so, what can I do ?
[22:31] <diffred> kk thanks :D
[22:31] <bgamari> wivk,  Beta Unified GFX driver Ver 85a-44597 for Ubuntu 8.10(02Dec08) (3.4M)
[22:31] <imachine> raylu, any clues on my nvidia issue ?
[22:31] <storm-zen> crimsun: How to check that?
[22:31] <raylu> imachine: um, you haven't told me about 177 yet
[22:31] <Meshezabeel> is there a way to end a process through the gui instead of CLI?
[22:31] <zvacet> JacaByte : and you checked disc for errors and ...
[22:31] <crimsun> storm-zen: please join #ubuntu-audio-help
[22:31] <imachine> raylu, um I did. what do you need to know tho ?
[22:31] <raylu> imachine: is it installed?
[22:31] <rathel> I can't seem to get DPMS working in my xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything and 'xset q' says DPMS is disabled, I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[22:32] <JacaByte> zvacet: OS X disk utility verified the disk and didn't find anything when it was burned.
[22:32] <imachine> raylu, p   nvidia-177-kernel-source                                               - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[22:32] <imachine> i A nvidia-177-modaliases                                                  - Modaliases for the NVIDIA binary X.Org driver
[22:32] <JacaByte> Interestingly enough, sudo fdisk -l only shows two of the HDDs, the ones with OS X and 9 on them.
[22:32] <imachine> raylu, that's what aptitute says.
[22:32] <raylu> imachine: i'd get rid of nvidia-177-modaliases, then
[22:32] <imachine> aptitude.
[22:32] <imachine> raylu, but can't the grapics thing do it for me ?
[22:32] <imachine> the driver manager.
[22:32] <Meshezabeel> Is there any way to end a program (such as firefox) in the GUI?
[22:33] <raylu> imachine: maybe... maybe not :P
[22:33] <imachine> I thought it would work automatically ??
[22:33] <imachine> raylu, damned thing now eh ? ;/
[22:33] <imachine> okay
[22:33] <raylu> Meshezabeel: xkill
[22:33] <CVirus> I'm getting a file not found error while trying to install flashplugin-nonfree ... any clue ?
[22:33] <imachine> that sucks tho, I'll file a bug report.
[22:33] <raylu> imachine: well, remove it first
[22:33] <srx2002> ctrl q
[22:33] <raylu> imachine: i get the feeling removing it won't solve your problem
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Meshezabeel: you could use a graphical taskmanager, killall firefox will do it though
[22:33] <Lumberg> hey all, any idea why cat /proc/cpu shows my cpu Mhz as 1000 when it's really 2700mhz?
[22:33] <raylu> CVirus: give us the whole error
[22:33] <TuxMan2> how to check what dependencies are required for a particular package with aptitude?????
[22:34] <imachine> raylu, so do I
[22:34] <Meshezabeel> thanks raylu and ActionParsnip!!!
[22:34] <imachine> removing it removes nvidia-common too
[22:34] <danilo> m,m.lm
[22:34] <TuxMan2>  how to check what dependencies are required for a particular package with aptitude?????
[22:34] <imachine> raylu, so what now
[22:34] <zvacet> CVirus : do you have multiverse enabled?
[22:35] <balrog__> .join #wine
[22:35] <raylu> TuxMan2: aptitude show
[22:35] <raylu> TuxMan2: next time, aptitude --help
[22:35] <balrog__> oops.  sorry >.<
[22:35] <imachine> raylu, whenever I click the driver manager now, there is nothing about nvidia ;]
[22:35] <TuxMan2> 10x
[22:35] <CVirus> raylu: http://rafb.net/p/5fyfgF80.html
[22:35] <CVirus> zvacet: yes
[22:35] <raylu> imachine: o.0
[22:35] <gaminggeek> Does anyone know why cheese suddenly stopped working?
[22:36] <imachine> raylu, :) you need nvidia-common
[22:36] <raylu> ian_brasil: that's strange. could you pastebin the output of "aptitude search nvidia-17"? i'm kind of confused as to what exactly is and isn't installed
[22:36] <raylu> o.0
[22:36] <raylu> imachine: that's strange. could you pastebin the output of "aptitude search nvidia-17"? i'm kind of confused as to what exactly is and isn't installed
[22:36] <imachine> raylu, look, i didn't mess anything up
[22:36] <huxl3y> SHOUT OUT to the linux community! - looking for a linux expert to help with a USB mic configuration please if anyone is bored and available
[22:36] <imachine> I just installed the standard stuff
[22:36] <imachine> and used the module app, ubuntu way
[22:36] <imachine> it just broke
[22:36] <imachine> ;]
[22:36] <krypto> hmm wie bekomm ich den den pfad wo ich mich gerade befinde raus wenn ich nur ne bash shell vor mir hab
[22:36] <raylu> sorry, i have to go :P
[22:36] <imachine> oh well
[22:36] <imachine> lates
[22:37] <JacaByte> hux13y: I'm bored, but I don't know if I know enough to help you.
[22:37] <zvacet> CVirus : then you should be able t oinstall it because it is in multiverse repo
[22:37] <huxl3y> drats ! :p
[22:37] <RITN> can anyone on gods earth tell me why i cannot read and write to my dam samba share that is on my nas that i used the wiki to configure correctly after reading it??? (cifs)
[22:37] <CVirus> zvacet: http://rafb.net/p/5fyfgF80.html
[22:38] <Meshezabeel> RITN your permissions aren't set correctly
[22:38] <MoLoot> huxl3y: FIrst things to check is to make sure all the volume controls are set properly...  is it listed in lsusb?
[22:38] <RITN> on what?
[22:38] <zvacet> CVirus ; but there is another way to install flash
[22:38] <RITN> not the share because it works on the linux box.
[22:38] <JacaByte> Who here thinks that if I wiped /hdc in OS X /before/ taking it into Linux and trying to install to it that it would work?
[22:38] <RITN> err win box.
[22:38] <RITN> ie i can connect to it from the win easy.
[22:38] <CVirus> zvacet: I'm installing it using apt-get
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> RITN: did you run sudo smbpasswd <your username> then set it to the same password as you log on to your system
[22:38] <Meshezabeel> maybe the mask settings in your samba config?
[22:38] <zvacet> CVirus : add ubuntu partner repo to your sources list
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> RITN: can I see your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:39] <Lumberg> gaminggeek, maybe you need to fix the cheese before asking about it
[22:39] <RITN> im using the fstab file.
[22:39] <RITN> and mount /media/dir
[22:39] <RITN> it connects.  why would i need a samba password?
[22:39] <CVirus> zvacet: why ?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> RITN: so you can authenticate as a user on the box so security is easier
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> RITN: please use names too so it highlights
[22:39] <jose> hate linux
[22:39] <JacaByte> jose: you've come to the right place.
[22:39] <jose> isntall windows vista
[22:40] <RITN> then why did they send me to a wiki that doesnt really say anything about that.
[22:40] <duvnell> I've got XP home installed on my system which has unpartitioned space on it.. would it be better for me to put ubuntu 8.04 (and upgrade to 8.10) on here or 8.10 from the start.. did I hear some rumor about 8.10 having some XP compatibility issues concerning the version of grub?
[22:40] <RITN> okay ActionParsnip i will
[22:40] <onetinsoldier> and worship bill... and do not ever play xbill
[22:40] <RITN> ActionParsnip: i havent even touched my smb.conf
[22:40] <zvacet> CVirus : because from partner repo you will install flash 10 from synaptic name is adobe-flashplugin
[22:40] <RITN> ActionParsnip: it is default.
[22:40] <CVirus> http://rafb.net/p/IvwQKG56.html
[22:40] <RITN> ActionParsnip: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[22:40] <CVirus> zvacet: I want flash 9
[22:41] <jose> free software it's bad
[22:41] <onetinsoldier> lol
[22:41] <faduda> ubuntu 8.10, connection to adsl via router, and a trivial problem. I am (obviously) connected), but the taskbar icon still shows no connection, i.e. a pic of a comp with an 'x'. why don't i show as connected?
[22:41] <jose> use windows vista....
[22:41] <AlfredHitchcock> a
[22:41] <jose> pay 500 for windows vista...
[22:41] <srx2002> vista sucks
[22:41] <Meshezabeel> RITN, if you are connecting through Samba, you very likely have to modify your smb.conf
[22:41] <Meshezabeel> RITN, can you pastebin it?
[22:41] <huxl3y> srx2002: Winblows FTL!
[22:42] <jose> windows forever
[22:42] <keres> is there a program out there that can burn a bootable dvd?
[22:42] <zvacet> CVirus : like the message said 404 rty on adobe site to see if you can find old versions
[22:42] <JacaByte> jose: if you'd like to deal with the slow, painful half-boiled mess that is Vista, then that can be  your decision. Don't get me started on the resources it consumes, the holding-the-users-hand mentality M$ has taken up, and the lack of features commonly seen in Linux and OS X, I suggest you spend your $500, turn up some music, and vegetate away from this chatroom.
[22:42] <keres> other than the included ISO burner, it doesn't work for some reason
[22:42] <jose> sudo apt-get install windows vista
[22:42] <Meshezabeel> keres: Ubuntu should be able to do it within the OS itself
[22:42] <jose> rm linux
[22:42] <harlekin_> can anyone help me? My Nautilus doesnt react on keystrokes
[22:42] <mrwes> heh
[22:42] <mrwes> vista?
[22:42] <keres> Meshezabeel: it isn't booting for some reason.
[22:43] <Meshezabeel> keres, Brasero?
[22:43] <balrog__> jose: rm jose
[22:43] <GreedyB> my sound stopped working.. I tried restarting alsa-utils but that didn't do anything.. any ideas?
[22:43] <jose> yes one vista user its better than 1000000 linux users
[22:43] <Meshezabeel> keres, Brasero is included by default I think
[22:43] <keres> really?
[22:43] <JacaByte> jose: run:/>cmd
[22:43] <JacaByte> run: dos
[22:43] <JacaByte> run dos run
[22:43] <klimy> hi
[22:43] <mrwes> GreedyB: you check alsa mixer to ensure the levels are turned up?
[22:44] <klimy> i have a hard time installing a vm in vmware.
[22:44] <harlekin_> can anyone help me? My Nautilus doesnt react on keystrokes
[22:44] <Meshezabeel> keres, I believe so, it should be under Apps->Sound & Video
[22:44] <AndreasMadrid> i installed amule on my linux and it used to run fine. but now when i wanna start it in applications- internet-amule, i get the error that the permissions on the configuration directory are too strict. but i didn't chnage them, and b4 it worked. what went wrong?
[22:44] <keres> oh yeah
[22:44] <AndreasMadrid> and what permissions should i give to the directory /usr/local/bin?
[22:44] <Flannel> jose, JacaByte: please take offtopic chatter elsewhere, thanks.
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> RITN: are you mounting a linux shared folder or a windows shared folder?
[22:44] <srx2002> vista= " windows encountered a fatal error..your system will be shut down to prevent further damage.....would you like to continue?? "    I mean really.....is there even a need to ask a yes/no question.
[22:44] <GreedyB> mrwes, yeah.. I dunno what changed since yesterday.... I really don't want to restart :P
[22:44] <klimy> the server is up and running but if i put in a win xp cd  and boot it up it sais: cannot find harddrive
[22:44] <jose> ubuntu is the worst distribution
[22:44] <klimy> any ideas?
[22:45] <idejmcd> having trouble uninstalling with wine, programs don't remove
[22:45] <harlekin_> can anyone help me? My Nautilus doesnt react on keystrokes
[22:45] <balrog__> jose: we can talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish
[22:45] <TJ-42> when Ubuntu is starting up, it shows a progress bar.  How do I make that disappear so that I can see the progress?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> klimy: if the drives are SATA, XP doesnt have SATA drivers so will fail, you need a driver on a floppy drive or slipstream them on the cd
[22:45] <srx2002> Jose: that can be directly proportional in saying " you are the worst Ubuntu user "
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> klimy: or is it a virtual machine?
[22:45] <klimy> ActionParsnip: this is a virtual machine
[22:45] <onetinsoldier> jose got kicked
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> klimy: did you make a virtual hard drive?
[22:46] <TJ-42> see the text itself, I mean
[22:46] <mrwes> Greeny_: install the GNOME alsa mixer
[22:46] <DasEi> klimy: join #vmware
[22:46] <klimy> ActionParsnip: Yeah i guess... let me check again
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: might be virtualbox
[22:46] <carandraug> TJ-42, there's probably a GUI for that, I just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the option splash
[22:46] <harlekin_> can anyone help me? My Nautilus doesnt react on keystrokes
[22:46] <zsquareplusc> TJ-42: remove "splash" and "quiet" in the boot menu. if you need that just once, press "e" in the grub menu
[22:46] <srx2002> nothing wrong with ububtu...rock solid in every aspect for me
[22:46] <srx2002> ubuntu
[22:46] <RITN> ActionParsnip: what does smb.conf have to do with it
[22:47] <mrwes> nods
[22:47] <DasEi> klimy: vmware or virtualbox ?
[22:47] <Fezzler> My CUPS print driver in AbiWord just will not work over shared network computer.  It works everywhere else?  Thoughts?
[22:47] <srx2002> cheese george ...cheeeeeeese
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> RITN: are you trying to get ubuntu to mount a windows share, or windows to mount a samba share on a linux box?
[22:47] <JacaByte> Anyway, does anybody think that wiping the disk I'm going to try to install Ubuntu onto before I attempt the installation will work?
[22:48] <srx2002> just f$ckin install ubuntu and take windows and chuck it
[22:48] <RITN> ubuntu to mount a windows share ActionParsnip
[22:48] <TJ-42> I don't see an option splash.  I remove the option "quiet" from the line below the "title" Ubuntu 8.04 line, but the loading progress bar still shows
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> RITN: does the account you are using to connect have a password?
[22:48] <Fezzler> The Web-based and Ubuntu Admin>Printing based Test Page work perfectly
[22:48] <zsquareplusc> TJ-42: if there is no "spash" write instead, "nosplash"
[22:49] <klimy> DasEi: virtualbox on ubuntu?
[22:49] <TJ-42> ok thanks
[22:49] <TJ-42> thank you zsquareplusc
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> klimy: you need to make a virtual harddrive for the box dude, it part of the box creation process
[22:49] <DasEi> klimy:I think you said vmware, but virtualbox is there, too
[22:49] <RITN> i even tried a sudo copy of the files from command line ActionParsnip.  and yes it is password protected.  my fstabe file has the right credentials and it connects.  I even have dir/file_mode of 0777.  it connects and works I just cannot copy files to it.
[22:49] <Spasysheep> 8.04 - i tried to upgrade to flash player 10, it failed, and now i cant go back to 9 because it thinks 10 is  still installed. any ideas - http://pastebin.com/d4dabd4d3
[22:49] <klimy> ActionParsnip: I did ;)
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> RITN: you dont need to wory about smb.conf
[22:49] <elli222> Hello, I have a bunch of gtk 1.x apps and they look hideous. Anyone know how i can make them look better? any help is appreciated!
[22:50] <viraptor> after upgrading to  Ibex my sound stopped working (alsa & pulseaudio) - I get only "main.c: daemon startup without any loaded modules, refusing to work" from pulseaudio --system - any ideas?
[22:50] <JacaByte> Good, that's what I'll try.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> RITN: you want 1000 not 0777
[22:50] <RITN> 1000 for uid or gid which i do not have or think i need.
[22:50] <RITN> 0777 isnt that chmod type permissions or is that the problem?
[22:50] <RITN> ActionParsnip.
[22:50] <jeeves_Moss> is there a good flash decompiler for Ubuntu?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> RITN: from what ive seen its inverted, check this out
[22:51] <Spasysheep> 8.04 - i tried to upgrade to flash player 10, it failed, and now i cant go back to 9 because it thinks 10 is  still installed. any ideas - http://pastebin.com/d4dabd4d3
[22:51] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: flasm?
[22:51] <klimy> issue soved ;) i selected win 2k3 server to begin with
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> RITN: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198614
[22:51] <jrib> Spasysheep: uninstall the adobe package you installed
[22:51] <viraptor> jeeves_Moss: try "flare"
[22:51] <faduda> network manager applet icon shows not connected, although clearly I am connected. any idea why?
[22:51] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, will that allow me to imput a URL, and it'll decompile it?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> RITN: see how the uid is 1000
[22:51] <Fezzler> Anyone use AbiWord with CUPS driver?
[22:51] <jrib> jeeves_Moss: I don't know
[22:51] <Spasysheep> jrib: you think i havent tried?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> RITN: i have no idea why but it works
[22:51] <idejmcd> having some trouble with app Wine, any helpers PM me
[22:51] <jeeves_Moss> jrib, ok.  I have one from sothwith for Windows
[22:51] <wivk> bgamari, that totally broke xorg
[22:51] <jrib> Spasysheep: I have no idea what you've tried.  I only assume people have done things they show me on pastebin
[22:52] <elli222> Hello, I have a bunch of gtk 1.x apps and they look hideous. Anyone know how i can make them look better? any help is appreciated!
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> idejmcd: is it installing wine itself or getting an app to work with wine?
[22:52] <wivk> so i give up. i know 8.04 works fine
[22:52] <Lumberg> elli222, upgrade to gtk 2
[22:52] <wivk> thanks for your help anyways
[22:52] <elli222> Lumbeg, there is no gtk 2.0 version of some apps i use
[22:52] <Spasysheep> jrib: fair enough. v10 is installed enough to conflict with v9, but uninstallled enough for me not to be able to uninstall it properly
[22:52] <gaminggeek> jeeves_Moss: http://osflash.org/open_source_flash_projects
[22:52] <jrib> Spasysheep: pastebin
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: lets' start with...   sudo updatedb
[22:53] <Spasysheep> jrib: no output
[22:53] <zsquareplusc> onetinsoldier: updating manpages?
[22:53] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: then   locate libflashplayer.so
[22:53] <jeeves_Moss> gaminggeek, thanks. I'll have a look
[22:53] <jrib> Spasysheep: then include your command that gave you no output.......
[22:54] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: no.. updatedb does not update man pages...  that's mandb
[22:54] <TJ-42> when ubuntu is starting up, I get the following error "/dev/sdc3 is mounted.  e2fsck: cannot continue, aborting".  Why is fsck running after it mounts the drive and how can I fix this?
[22:54] <bgamari> wivk, how so?
[22:54] <onetinsoldier> zsquareplusc: : no.. updatedb does not update man pages...  that's mandb
[22:55] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier, jrib, locate libflashplayer also gave no output
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> RITN: see what i mean?
[22:55] <Spasysheep> *libflashplayer.so
[22:55] <DasEi> TJ-42: looks like your drive has an error, try to run e2fsck from live
[22:55] <idejmcd> is there a way to uninstall wine and all the subfolders with one command?
[22:55] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok... good
[22:55] <RITN> ActionParsnip: that post is unclosed and I have now testested your theory.  I have both uid and gid set to my account.  nothing.
[22:55] <RITN> it does not even work for the root account ActionParsnip
[22:55] <jrib> Spasysheep: you said uninstall adobe-flashplugin failed.  Can you pastebin the command you ran and the full output when you try?
[22:55] <Spasysheep> ok
[22:55] <zsquareplusc> onetinsoldier: yeah, right. but for one time searches why not "find"
[22:55] <TJ-42> DasEi: but it's not complaining about an error that it found, it's saying that the drive is mounted and so it cannot before the fsck,right?
[22:55] <RITN> ActionParsnip: and yes i have unmounted and remounted the share.
[22:55] <TJ-42> s/before/perform
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> RITN: strange
[22:56] <RITN> ActionParsnip: i know.
[22:56] <DasEi> TJ-42: for e2fsck drive mussn't be mounted
[22:56] <onetinsoldier> zsquareplusc: that would work too, indeed. but find can take a while
[22:56] <mrwes> burp
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> RITN: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1404
[22:56] <Spasysheep> http://pastebin.com/d9a0b60f
[22:56] <TJ-42> DasEi: right, but ubuntu is mounting the drive and then performing e2fsck on it during boot
[22:57] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know the proper schema value for mount_point in vfat and the proper key value to mount_point(ipod nano 3rd gen) in gconf-editor?
[22:57] <DasEi> TJ-42: is why I think it's got an error, as the regular check (routine check) rns before mounting
[22:57] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[22:57] <DasEi> *runs
[22:57] <srx2002> only one thing windows can do that ubuntu can't
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok... now you could force the install, but i can't remember if apt/dpkg would continue to complain after doing that ever time you went to use apt/dpkg
[22:57] <TJ-42> ok, I'll try, thanks DasEi
[22:58] <srx2002> that I need to use
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: whats that?
[22:58] <Meshezabeel> RITN, do both users have same name and password?
[22:58] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: i think it would... so, we pull out a sledgehammer, unless someone else here comes out with something better
[22:58] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: ive tried dpkg --force-all -i flashplugin-nonfree and it doesnt like it
[22:59] <faduda> ok i give up
[22:59] <DasEi> TJ-42: run live as : sudo e2fsck -p     /dev/sdXX             on the partition
[22:59] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok, ready?  cd to  /var/lib/dpkg
[22:59] <jrib> Spasysheep: you need to get rid of the crummy adobe package first
[22:59] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: although that was a while ago, before i tried to purge my system of everything flas-related and star again
[22:59] <Meshezabeel> RITN, do you have simple file sharing turned off on windows?
[22:59] <Spasysheep> ok
[22:59] <horstle> gn8
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: what cant linux do that you need?
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: once you are in that directory.. be certain to maske a backup of the 'status' file
[23:00] <srx2002> ActionParsnip: rawdump 2.0 to dump wii games
[23:00] <gauteh> hi, do you need to be in any kind of special group for at to work?
[23:00] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier ok done
[23:00] <gauteh> or crontab ?
[23:01] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[23:01] <harlekin_> srx2002, try to buy games could help
[23:01] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know the proper schema value for mount_point in vfat and the proper key value to mount_point(ipod nano 3rd gen) in gconf-editor?
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok..no open up the staus file in an editor like vim or whatever, then run a search for the offending package name
[23:01] <zsquareplusc> gauteh: i don't think so. do you get an error?
[23:01] <coldboot|home> What's a good program to control music remotely from one computer to another?
[23:01] <DrJ> what is the package installer command for ubuntu (like the yum program on fedora)?
[23:01] <starhawk> no error
[23:01] <srx2002> buy games.....HA...funny
[23:02] <gauteh> zsquareplusc: trying to help someone out with at and crontab, im the maintainer of gnome-schedule.. he 'doesn't have permission to run the atq' command
[23:02] <zsquareplusc> coldboot|home: there are several media servers. mpd, deejayd and others
[23:02] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier ok found it
[23:02] <starhawk> just a prompt
[23:02] <gauteh> zsquareplusc: i don't run ubuntu myself
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok, now wait a moment.. ok?
[23:02] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to reset the values in gconf-editor, or how to reinstall gconf-editor?  I screwed up my iPod pretty bad and can't mount it any longer.
[23:02] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier ok
[23:03] <coldboot|home> zsquareplusc: Anything you can control with Amarok directly, and has an API so another computer can remotely control it with code?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: tried wine?
[23:03] <srx2002> ActionParsnip: yup. needs .net framework
[23:04] <zsquareplusc> gauteh: i can run it. i don't see any special groups. the binary of at/atq is owned by daemon:daemon  but its world executable
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: install it
[23:04] <srx2002> Msoft net framework?
[23:04] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: you will want to remove all lines of the package in there except the first four... or i think you can just remove them all. but i recommend leaving the first four lines for now
[23:04] <gauteh> zsquareplusc: alright.. might be some problems with /etc/at.deny, /etc/at.allow
[23:04] <gauteh> zsquareplusc: thanks
[23:04] <Kevin__> Hi Everyone. I'm trying to access the website I setup on my Ubuntu box over our home network. Whenever I enter the IP of the box into Safari (192.168.1.xxx) it changes to 192.168.2.xxx and I can't access it. Any ideas?
[23:04] <DasEi> coldboot|home : do both machines run kde/ubuntu ?
[23:04] <cacarino> ciao
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> srx2002: http://wiki.winehq.org/MicrosoftDotNet
[23:04] <cacarino> !list
[23:05] <zsquareplusc> coldboot|home: i dont know KDE media players or if they have remote support built in. at least for mpd there are several guis available.  if you just want to send sound to an other pc, that cal also be done with pulseaudio
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: then... you change the 'Status' like to so  -->     Status: purge ok not-installed
[23:05] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: then... you change the 'Status' line to so  -->     Status: purge ok not-installed
[23:05] <coldboot|home> DasEi: One machine won't have X on it at all.
[23:05] <starhawk> any one know where I can get help with this (initramfs
[23:05] <srx2002> that could work
[23:06] <srx2002> I'll give it a go
[23:06] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: ok done
[23:06] <coldboot|home> zsquareplusc: Cool, thanks. I think I can set this up with mpd. It has an Amarok plugin, and if that's crap, it's got tons of interfaces for it.
[23:06] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: and then your done
[23:06] <DasEi> coldboot|home : so the headless contains the music you want to hear on the other ?
[23:06] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: ty, i shall try 9 once more
[23:06] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: you're welcome
[23:06] <coldboot|home> DasEi: The computer with X on it has the music and speakers, the media pc, ironically named, is the one with nothing on it that's running Apache and other stuff.
[23:06] <srx2002> harlekin_ make a porno of your wife and your best friends wife......I'll buy that
[23:07] <dva5912> Im wanting to put an external 2line lcd screen on my computer ive been looking at the /DE-LM010-2 which is listed on ebay for 12$. What do i need to do to make it work with ubuntu 8.04?
[23:07] <srx2002> no questions asked
[23:07] <dva5912> Ive seen it done
[23:07] <Vantrax> DasEi, just do  a sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop and you will have a machine running all three desktops
[23:07] <starhawk> initramfs  this is what I get when tring to install ubuntu 8.10 the install just stops there I have an emachine D6417 with 3 gigs of ram 3200 processor 64 bit  dose any one know what to do with this
[23:07] <DasEi> Vantrax:was that for coldboot|home ?
[23:08] <harlekin_> srx2002, your are stupid !
[23:08] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: gah, now the download is failing
[23:08] <Vantrax> DasEi, probably:P
[23:08] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: pffft. omg. but sorry, i can't help with that
[23:08] <coldboot|home> Vantrax: Don't want it to run that stuff.
[23:08] <srx2002> harlekin_ your a stupid?  does that make sense
[23:08] <Kevin__>  I'm trying to access the website I setup on my Ubuntu box over our home network. Whenever I enter the IP of the box into Safari (192.168.1.xxx) it changes to 192.168.2.xxx and I can't access it. Any ideas?
[23:08] <CarlFK> anyone know where I can find the command: firecontrol
[23:09] <kaiser10123> i have built in mic and dont know how to get it to work
[23:09] <kaiser10123> on a laptop
[23:09] <srx2002> your are a stupid.....yup that makes sensse
[23:09] <veritos> Does apt-get have a way to do the equivalent of "aptitude markauto" or "emerge --oneshot" (on Gentoo)?
[23:09] <srx2002> grade 4?
[23:10] <RITN> wtf
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> srx2002: stop it now
[23:10] <hellfire> dobranoc
[23:10] <srx2002> k
[23:10] <DasEi> coldboot|home :you can either install x on that and use a vnc-solution or just put a network-share on the headless
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: let me know if you are able to get it...
[23:11] <kaiser10123> can anyone help figure what setting my mic is
[23:11] <Flannel> !coc | srx2002
[23:11] <toad3030> i'm new to linux, and i'm trying to duel boot with xp.  does anybody know a good site (guide) on how to install ubuntu 8.10 on my 2nd partion??
[23:11] <DasEi> !dual
[23:12] <srx2002> K, sorry....somone called me stupid......my bad
[23:12] <srx2002> been called worse
[23:12] <srx2002> lol
[23:12] <coldboot|home> DasEi: I just want to be able to have the headless tell the mpd server to play "Barry White" after I trip a motion sensor, which triggers the lights to turn down in my room. ;)
[23:12] <willis_> the normal insttaller can set up that way toad3030  just pay attention to what it asks. I normally delete the partition  i want to install to and have a Unallocated space I tell the installer to use
[23:12] <DasEi> !dualboot | ﻿oad3030:
[23:12] <coldboot|home> DasEi: So yeah, I think I can figure that out through some mpd API.
[23:13] <toad3030> ok ty willis
[23:13] <DasEi> coldboot|home :  mpd ?
[23:14] <zsquareplusc> coldboot|home: mps has a http and command line interface tools. i also wrote my own frontend for an LCD for it. but with mpd you'll probably have the sound on th e server
[23:14] <coldboot|home> DasEi: Yeah.
[23:14] <coldboot|home> Thanks for the advice, gotta reboot and put new firmware on my iPod.
[23:14] <Spasysheep> onetinsoldier: bedtime here in england i think. if you're on tomorrow i may well be back with more questions
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !info mpd | DasEi
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> Spasysheep: ok. good luck
[23:15] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: I see, but from a share any player can play I think
[23:15] <veritos> Does apt-get have a way to do install *some*, but not all, of the suggested packages, yet leave them marked as automatically installed?
[23:15] <RITN> i still cant get this to work.  isnt thier anyone out thier that knows what they are doing.  All i want to do is mount a dam samba share
[23:16] <kaiser10123> anyone here have a dell xps m1530?
[23:17] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: I have an inspiron 1525 but what is your problem someone might be able to help anyway
[23:17] <kaiser10123> i have built in mic
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: do you mean like control what comes out of the remote pc, or just use it as a library?
[23:18] <gaminggeek> hmm so do I what about it?
[23:18] <kaiser10123> i wanna use it with skype how to us it
[23:18] <kaiser10123> i dont know what device it sees it as to changes its settingsd
[23:19] <DasEi> ﻿ ActionParsnip: I thought about an network-share
[23:19] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: its alsa mixer
[23:20] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: you might need to enable capture
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: yeah i'd do that, keeps it simple
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: if you want a remotely controllable system id use mpd or amarok with xul remote script installed
[23:21] <DasEi> ﻿ ActionParsnip: anyway, it was coldboots questions
[23:21] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: i see caputer up all the way but capture 1 and2 go right down if i try and raise them?
[23:21] <kaiser10123> capture
[23:22] <wivk> ok bgamari do you know where the 'screens & graphs' setting is for 8.10 ?
[23:22] <wivk> this is getting old. everythign i do crashes xorg.
[23:22] <keres> while burning an ISO, i get the error ' Error while burning: the disk could not be mounted (max attempts reached).
[23:23] <veritos> Does apt-get have a way to do install *some*, but not all, of the suggested packages, yet leave them marked as automatically installed?
[23:23] <keres> what is happening?
[23:23] <keres> i am using brasero
[23:23] <wivk> keres, it's been my experiance, you need to use a different disk
[23:23] <bgamari> wivk, screens and graphs?
[23:23] <keres> wivk: did it screw up?
[23:23] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: ?
[23:24] <bgamari> wivk, sorry, no. i'm not too familiar with recent ubuntu releases
[23:24] <DasEi> ﻿ keres: though I prefer k3b,  try to own the dir to the normal user
[23:24] <wivk> bgamari, like for manually changing the video card used to xorg.
[23:24] <bgamari> wivk, I would just edit xorg.conf manually
[23:24] <bgamari> I'm not sure I'd trust a graphical utility to do the right thing
[23:26] <RITN> this is my fstab line //snappy/320    /media/320      smbfs   username=ritn,password=n0slp4vr,rw,umask=000    0       0
[23:26] <RITN> wtf is wrong with it
[23:26] <RITN> and screw the fact that the password is in it
[23:26] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: u there
[23:26] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: yea sorry
[23:26] <gaminggeek> do you have capture in your recording tab?
[23:26] <RITN> can anyone help?
[23:26] <RITN> please?
[23:27] <RITN> im begging i have been working on this for 2 hours.
[23:27] <RITN> i have followed all the guides
[23:27] <RITN> and it will not let me write to the share?
[23:27] <gaminggeek> RITN: what is your problem?
[23:28] <gaminggeek> RITN: I mean that is the best way, I mean what is the issue
[23:28] <RITN> with that fstab line.  it mounts the share but I cannot write to the share.  I can del but not write.
[23:28] <Cluber> I am having trouble connecting to my wireless router on 8.10. I can see it on my "NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0" and i click connect, it asks for password/key so i put it in, but it comes back as invalid( I know the password i am typing is correct as I use the same one for windows ) But when it comes back there is a longer password returned a hash( like an md5 one ). Help me please.
[23:28] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: i see input source with mic or front mic?
[23:28] <RITN> im desperate here.  why can i not write
[23:28] <RITN> //snappy/320    /media/320      smbfs   username=ritn,password=n0slp4vr,rw,umask=000    0       0
[23:28] <RITN> the directorys are writable in the filesystem
[23:29] <RITN> it works when i login on a windows system.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> RITN: can you sudo cp to it?
[23:29] <RITN> ActionParsnip: i tried that
[23:29] <RITN> nothing.
[23:29] <RITN> file input/ouput error
[23:29] <zod21> Cluber: try changing the password in your router settings
[23:29] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: its Mic for me
[23:29] <veritos> Does apt-get have an equivalent to "aptitude markauto" for its autoremove functionality?
[23:29] <infosoak> Is there a command to do a recursive search in a directory and return just the filetypes that are in the directory and any subdirectories?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> veritos: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[23:30] <Cluber> zod21: I know the password is correct as my dad is using the password from his laptop, i am using it from my laptop ( both windows ) but when i boot my laptop in ubuntu it doesn't like it.
[23:30] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: is ur digital input source analog inputs or digital mic 1?
[23:30] <gaminggeek> infosoak: hmm ls -R |grep filetype?
[23:30] <Cluber> zod21: why when it asks for password again does it convert my password into a hash?
[23:30] <veritos> ActionParsnip: No, one that lets me mark a package as auto-installed, even when it's manually installed.
[23:31] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: just try analog at first
[23:31] <Aberration> Hey all!
[23:31] <infosoak> gaminggeek: Thanks, but that didn't work
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> RITN: have you checked the active directory permissions as well as the share permissions on the folder on the windows side?
[23:31] <infosoak> I am not trying to find a specific filetype
[23:31] <Aberration> Do we have some knews about the real-time kernel? Is it possible already?
[23:31] <RITN> yes.  its a nas.  and it has worked for months.
[23:31] <zod21> Cluber: thats something i ran into in the past using ubuntu so i took the password off on my netgear router and made it to where only certain mac addresses could connect
[23:31] <Cluber> Also why does windows and ubuntu have different mac addresses?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> veritos: auto-installed?
[23:31] <infosoak> I am trying to get a list of ALL of the filetypes in a directory and subdirectories
[23:31] <zod21> Cluber: that way is also much more secure, its a lot harder to hac k
[23:31] <gaminggeek> infosoak: then ls -R with out the grep :D
[23:32] <metajemo> hello
[23:32] <Cluber> zod21: So just use MAC address filtering
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> infosoak: so if there are many mp3s in the folder (and sub) it would only report mp3 once?
[23:32] <Cluber> zod21: But mac addresses can be edited.
[23:32] <kaiser10123> im trying it but when i try the sound recorder with different settings no sure what to use
[23:32] <metajemo> a quick question by the dummy
[23:32] <Cluber> zod21: someone could change their MAC to mine, and connect
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Cluber: you can override it in network config
[23:32] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: hmm? what do you mean?
[23:32] <veritos> ActionParsnip: Let's say that I install a package, but install *some* (not all) of its suggested packages. Those suggested packages are marked as manually installed; I want them marked as automatically installed. Is that doable?
[23:32] <infosoak> ActionParsnip: Yes, if there are a bunch of mp3s, txts, htmls, etc., it would report that there are those type of files.
[23:33] <metajemo> help
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> veritos: ive not tried anything like that dude, butr now you clarified, maybe someone else can chime in
[23:33] <zod21> Cluber: not if you secure it right, they would have to do a lot of hacking in order to get that if you set it up secure enough Cluber, but that is a problem, i wrote a security app as a backup that ping of deaths anyone who trys to connect besides my mac address
[23:33] <zod21> but in the 4 years i had it no one ever even tried to break ing
[23:33] <DasEi> !ask | metajemo
[23:33] <zod21> in*
[23:33] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: tried different settings for record from
[23:34] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: hmm
[23:34] <gaminggeek> made sure capture isnt muted?
[23:34] <Cluber> zod21: Thanks for the advice, I will do that.
[23:34] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: how do i check
[23:34] <metajemo> i know the answer is simple.i just didnt manage to do it :) i'd like to change the language enviroment ...so please..one more time :)
[23:34] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: when i try and turn up capture, 1 or ,2 they go right down to mute
[23:34] <gaminggeek> right click on the speaker and go open volume control
[23:35] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: hmm I had that problem too :/
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> infosoak: you could output ALL the file extesions to a file then chop it down then output the file contents, bit messy
[23:35] <veritos> ActionParsnip: Aptitude has commands "markauto" and "unmarkauto". When I install a package, the package itself is marked manual and its dependencies are marked automatic. I want to do the equivalent to "markauto" in apt-get if it has one.
[23:35] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: I'm sorry I cant remember what I did
[23:35] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: maybe press that little mic
[23:35] <DasEi>  metajemo: prferences > regional settings
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> veritos: im not sure, if no one answers you could ask the apt-get devs
[23:36] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: what little mic
[23:36] <veritos> ActionParsnip: Okay, I give up for now. hanks for the help anyway.
[23:37] <zod21> Cluber: if something goes wrong just go back into your router settings it something like 192.168.1.1, or thats what it is on mine, 1 is the routers ip, but make sure you have a good password on the router thats where a hacker could do some damage, getting your password is easy to detect and easy to fix if you have the router protected
[23:37] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: under the slider
[23:37] <metajemo> thanks dasei
[23:38] <Cluber> zod21: To access my router on the local ip they have to be local.
[23:38] <Cluber> zod21: So they couldnt get into that anyway
[23:38] <Cluber> It's doesn't have remote connections enabled
[23:38] <gasmask> Hi guys, I get a "ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" when I try to VNC to my file server, any tips? I installed vncserver. Server is running xubuntu and I am running ubuntu 8.04
[23:39] <zod21> well they can if they connect, there is a way to bypass all that ive done it. but its a little harder than most people would try to do Cluber, but if remote connections is off, and you have a good enough h4XX0r password its safe
[23:39] <dr_willis> gasmask,  did you run 'vncserver' ?
[23:39] <friggy> Hi guys! could anyone help me with howto get an mp3 file to play on my website?
[23:39] <DasEi> ﻿gasmask:firewall enabled ? invitation opened on server-side ?
[23:40] <infinity1> friggy: pretty sure that doesn't have anything to do with ubuntu
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: netstat -l  on the server. is it listing port 5901 or so as open? what do you type to connect on the client?
[23:40] <dr_willis> gasmask,  i normally do the following.. Install vnc4server (i like tha tone) ssh in, as a user, run 'vncserver'  you may need to set your vncpassword and edit .vnc/xstartup to run what desktop you want.
[23:40] <zod21> friggy, do you have a player on ur site
[23:40] <dva5912> Ive seen it done
[23:40] <dva5912> Im wanting to put an external 2line lcd screen on my computer ive been looking at the /DE-LM010-2 which is listed on ebay for 12$. What do i need to do to make it work with ubuntu 8.04?
[23:40] <friggy> zod21: no :( this is just a simple page that is not on a server yet
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> gasmask: you could add the ip to /etc/hosts.allow
[23:41] <friggy> zod21: but i cant seem to get the right code
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> gasmask: check you have set the security for vnc
[23:41] <toad3030> when you ext3 what are you supposed to mount it as??
[23:41] <zod21> just use one of the million codings for myspace mp3 players, thats what i did a while back
[23:41] <zod21> otherwise the mp3s will just show up as downloads
[23:42] <dr_willis> toad3030,  ext3 gets mounted using the ext3 filesystem...  care to clarify the question a bit?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> toad3030: is it just a data partition?
[23:42] <DasEi> ﻿toad3030:  mount -t ext3 , see man mount
[23:42] <gasmask> ok, let me try that
[23:42] <friggy> zod21: yes but it could never find my mp3 file even though it was in the same folder
[23:43] <toad3030> well i gave 32gigs for linux just because, but the partioin is telling me that in need a root now
[23:43] <toad3030> i've partitioned the swap already
[23:43] <toad3030> then i put in the ext3
[23:43] <Smegzor> #linuxoutlaws
[23:43] <Smegzor> oops
[23:43] <toad3030> the ext3 is for all my data right?
[23:44] <toad3030> when i install and run linux?
[23:44] <infinity1> toad3030: ext3 is a filesystem
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> toad3030: you need 2 partitions minimum, / formatted ext3 an /swap which isnt formatted
[23:44] <Tom__> Hi. Whenever I enter http://localhost on my Ubuntu server, It is changing to 192.168.2.4, automatically. This isn't the IP address it is using.. what is going on?
[23:45] <carpii> and if you ping localhost ?
[23:45] <DasEi> !ext3 | ﻿toad3030:
[23:45] <DasEi> !swap | ﻿toad3030:
[23:45] <infinity1> ActionParsnip: actually, that isn't technically true. but i won't confuse the dicsussion :)
[23:45] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: when i unmute it and go back to settings it mutes it back
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: check /etc/hosts make sure localhost resolves to your IP
[23:46] <Aleran> can anyone recommend a sound card with excellent linux support?
[23:46] <toad3030> ok i think i got the partitions...1 question, when i use the ext3 file system i need to mount it as /?
[23:46] <toad3030> but what does / supposed to mean?
[23:46] <onetinsoldier> Aleran: Creative X-Fi ? hehe
[23:46] <infinity1> toad3030: if thats the only ext3 filesystem, yes
[23:46] <GeoMus> can any one give a an easy guide how to compile a module into my current kernel without make full kernel compile ??
[23:46] <infinity1> toad3030: / is kinda like C:\
[23:46] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: It resolves to 127.0.0.1
[23:46] <toad3030> ah ok
[23:47] <DrJ> Hey, I just installed ubuntu server
[23:47] <DrJ> for some reason my network eth0 keeps going down
[23:47] <onetinsoldier> Aleran: a little joke..  sort of. Creative recently open-sourced their 64-bit linux driver tho. so i am hoping for good driver in the future
[23:47] <cryptyk> When I install using the package manager, it install dependencies.  When I remove something, is there a way to tell it to remove the dependencies that were installed with it?
[23:47] <DrJ> or at least, losing its IP address crap
[23:47] <infinity1> DrJ: dhcp? wireless?
[23:47] <zane> Hi, I am new to this.
[23:47] <DrJ> static, wired
[23:47] <toad3030> thx for all the help...i'm trying to learn lol
[23:47] <infinity1> DrJ: then it can't be losign its ip
[23:48] <zane> What to we do on this?
[23:48] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: netstat -l lists 5901
[23:48] <Aleran> onetinsoldier: Hmm sounds promising but I don't feel like waiting. Any other suggestions? I'm running 64bit ubuntu
[23:48] <DrJ> infinity1: If I do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:48] <DrJ> it will be working for 5 minutes or so
[23:48] <DrJ> then the IP address, gateway, netmask, all that
[23:48] <DrJ> gone
[23:48] <infinity1> DrJ: ip conflict? irq problem?
[23:48] <DrJ> no ip conflict
[23:48] <DrJ> no idea on irq
[23:48] <DrJ> shouldn't be
[23:49] <onetinsoldier> Aleran: i hear you. i don't know a really good suggestion though. but i'm sure someone will. just keep asking every once in a while if you have to
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: ok so its actually running :-)  and you use vncviewer machine:1   ? to connect
[23:49] <ultratek> i cant see my dads laptop on the network...in ubuntu...when we when i was on windows whe were using the workgroup name of "Home"...ican i get ubuntu to see his pc which is windows xp?
[23:49] <infinity1> dunno. sounds weird though.
[23:49] <zane> Hello?
[23:49] <infinity1> DrJ: try ethtool and see about link
[23:49] <infinity1> zane: goodbye
[23:49] <dr_willis> ultratek,  you may want to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to set the same workgroup as your other machines.. for starters
[23:49] <zane> What do we do here?!?!?!?
[23:50] <huxl3y> ultratek: sudo apt-get nmap
[23:50] <ultratek> idid
[23:50] <onetinsoldier> Aleran: there has been a lot of talk about sound stuff in here lately... so i'm sure someone will speak up
[23:50] <ultratek> i just doesnt show anything
[23:50] <Mike_ss> I've added a new drive to my pc, gparted see's it, but in the options of filesystems ext3 isn't available (it's defaulted to msdos). Am  i missing something?
[23:50] <huxl3y> weird
[23:50] <carpii> alerin, just get a basic soundblaster
[23:50] <zane> I don't know what the heck this is!
[23:50] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: I type: vncviewer <IP address>
[23:50] <carpii> not the X-Fi architecture though, it seems those wont be supported in linux for another 20 years :/
[23:51] <DasEi> !ot|zane
[23:51] <infinity1> wow. this is a major noob channel
[23:51] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: ok, but you need the :1 as you started a new screen
[23:51] <ultratek> huxl3y: invalid operation map it says
[23:51] <zane> It's my first time on this.
[23:51] <huxl3y> ultratek: is it a windows network?
[23:51] <huxl3y> ultratek: and your dads pc is linux or winblows?
[23:51] <DrJ> heh, its getting worse infinity1: now its not lasting more than a minute
[23:52] <ultratek> well now it is linux well both...
[23:52] <rkln03> Anyone know how to get rid of the 'FATAL: BATTERY MODULE NOT FOUND" error that shows up when I boot up my aspire one on ubuntu remix?
[23:52] <zane> What do we talk about on here?
[23:52] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: ok, I'll try: vncviewer 192.168.1.5:1
[23:52] <ultratek> huxl3y : his is xp
[23:52] <kaiser10123> gaminggeek: all my recording stuff keeps going to mute
[23:52] <huxl3y> ultratek: ok and you are trying to see it with what computer?
[23:52] <ultratek> i run linux primary...and vista second
[23:52] <DasEi> !ot>zane
[23:52] <nspyr> invalid or corrupt kernel image?
[23:52] <infinity1> DrJ: check link. check local connectivity
[23:52] <ultratek> mine..on linux
[23:52] <huxl3y> ultratek: DHCP or static?
[23:52] <Pici> zane: This is the official Ubuntu Support channel.
[23:53] <ultratek> no static
[23:53] <huxl3y> ultratek: ahh
[23:53] <zane> F*** this.
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: actually you can start many many vncservers and each will have its own screen, :2, :3 etc. it printing the screen number when you start it
[23:53] <ultratek> i would assume dhcp
[23:53] <huxl3y> ultratek: so you want to get on your dads pc from your pc right get files etc?
[23:53] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: I tried changing it to the IP assigned by my router and It didn't work at all. I changed it back and it is resolving to 192.168.2.4, once again.
[23:53] <trollboy> So I've a buddy with about 20 computers, and about 6 different models between them.  They're all running windows for a custom windows app he needs.  I've taken one of his spare computers, put ubuntu on it, and ported the custom software to php running on localhost.   Currently he manages all his PC's with GoToMyPC as they are all on NAT's and can not direct-connect to the internet.  I'd like to create a dvd of a disk image, and replace
[23:53] <trollboy> all his windows boxes with linux.
[23:53] <dr_willis> gasmask,  yep. Vncserver opens up a whole other world.. thats MUCH more then 'shareing the current desktop'
[23:53] <trollboy> how doable is this?
[23:53] <ultratek> huxl3y: yes
[23:53] <zane> Goodbye.
[23:53] <dr_willis> gasmask,  i got a vncserver running on my fileserver thats just  jwm+a torrent client. :)
[23:54] <huxl3y> ultratek: ok which OS is up on your dads ps which OS is up on yours right now
[23:54] <rkln03> Anyone know how to get rid of the 'FATAL: BATTERY MODULE NOT FOUND" error that shows up when I boot up my aspire one on ubuntu remix?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: does it work if you use http://127.0.0.1
[23:54] <ultratek> huxl3y: his xp....mine...ubuntu
[23:54] <trollboy> I'm thinking a ghosted image of the HDD should work
[23:54] <huxl3y> ultratek: ok you know what his ip is?
[23:54] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: I tried that, and it got to a password prompt, but when I type the password, it says "VNC authentication failed"
[23:54] <trollboy> and ubuntu is smart enough to get around the hardware changes
[23:54] <ultratek> i have the main conncetion and router hooked up to my machine
[23:54] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: Yes, that works
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> trollboy: disk image as in backup? partimage or dd can do that.  but if you want to have the dvd booting it's a different storry
[23:55] <trollboy> but how do I replicate the GoToMyPC functionality?
[23:55] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: Can I remake the password on the server?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: weird
[23:55] <rathel> I can't seem to get DPMS working in my xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything and 'xset q' says DPMS is disabled, I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[23:55] <carpii> trollboy, another alternative is to create a vmware appliance for it
[23:55] <huxl3y> ultratek: to find out on his xp go to cmd window and type ipconfig
[23:55] <trollboy> zsquareplusc, I'd want it bootable
[23:55] <ultratek> huxl3y: we use brighthouse for internet...and netgear router...no i do not know ip
[23:55] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: it's the password of vnc not the one of an account. vncpasswd i think
[23:55] <carpii> already configured and set up, just need to run it... instant server
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: what ip does /etc/network/interfaces say lo has?
[23:55] <huxl3y> ultratek: then on ubuntu on yours go to places connect to server
[23:55] <gaminggeek> kaiser10123: I'm sorry I dont really know what the problem is then :|
[23:55] <dr_willis> gasmask,  i normally do the following.. Install vnc4server (i like tha tone) ssh in, as a user, run 'vncserver'  you may need to set your vncpassword and edit .vnc/xstartup to run what desktop you want.
[23:55] <trollboy> due to space concerns he's got some of the machines at his mom and uncle's house
[23:56] <huxl3y> ultratek: then select windows network type in his ip see what happens is what i'd do
[23:56] <trollboy> so "Stick it in and walk away" is a necessity
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> trollboy: there is a package called bootcd, bu i never used that myself
[23:56] <trollboy> zsquareplusc, I've no problem using ghost or the such
[23:56] <trollboy> that's not really my issue
[23:56] <magnetron> rathel→ you need to turn the monitor on before you start X, try by turning the monitor on before you boot the computer
[23:56] <trollboy> I'm more concerned with the GotoMyPC style functionality
[23:56] <dr_willis> No idea what 'gotomypc' is.
[23:56] <nspyr> anyone know what the problem is? Invalid or corrupt kernel image
[23:56] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: All that the file says is "auto lo [then a line break] iface lo inet loopback"
[23:56] <zsquareplusc> trollboy: the other route would be, take a live cd and modify it to your needs.. "remaster".
[23:57] <nspyr> live cd
[23:57] <ultratek> k
[23:57] <ultratek> one sec
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: ok, what does: ifconfig lo
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: say?
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: have you hear of Ghost Unix? aka  g4u
[23:57] <Mike_ss> Anyone know if you can create a ext3 filesystems with gparted?
[23:57] <trollboy> dr_willis, zsquareplusc and carpii  Gotomypc is basically a always listening vnc server that runs on the client box
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Mike_ss: totally
[23:57] <rkln03> Anyone know how to get rid of the 'FATAL: BATTERY MODULE NOT FOUND" error that shows up when I boot up my aspire one on ubuntu remix?
[23:57] <trollboy> it listens for connect requests via the Gotomypc website
[23:58] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: The IP listed is 127.0.0.1
[23:58] <rathel> magnetron, My monitors are on most of the time, the only time I turn them off is when I goto bed because I can't get this working, does that still screw it up? so I should restart now leaving my monitors on?
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: if in doubt: vncserver -k :1  then remove ~/.vnc and start over :-)
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: thats good
[23:58] <asparatu> how do fix my display...i comes up in low resolution?
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> trollboy: you know you get that built in to ubuntu? its called desktop sharing
[23:58] <magnetron> rathel→ the next time you start your computer, make sure the monitor is turned on first
[23:58] <Mike_ss> ActionParsnip: I 've resized, but my scsi drive just isn't even showing it as an option (sun,loop,msdos,etc.. not ext3). Am I missing something in the steps here?
[23:58] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: Hmmm... I reset the password for vnc with vncpasswd, and typed it in the password field on the client, but still the authentication error...
[23:58] <trollboy> zsquareplusc, how do I get around nat's though?
[23:59] <trollboy> zsquareplusc, these will be headless boxes generally
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !gparted | Mike_ss
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> gasmask: ok. are you using the same flavor on both ends? e.g. vnc4 may have a different auth method than plain vnc or tightvnc
[23:59] <nspyr> is there a good linux hardware guide?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | nspyr
[23:59] <rathel> magnetron, Okay, I'll try that now I don't think it'll work though..