[00:22] <filipegatti> moijk, apt-get install network-manager
[00:22] <filipegatti> sorry for kept you waiting.
[00:28] <dnyy> I installed emerald, but how do I make it the default theme/window manager?
[00:29] <filipegatti> dnyy, you have to disable the option that makes xfce to manage the desktop
[00:30] <dnyy> Where's that at? D:
[00:30] <dnyy> nvm, i see
[00:30] <filipegatti> right button at desktop and desktop settings :D
[00:30] <filipegatti> now you can switch your emerald on, maybe you'll need to restart x.
[00:31] <dnyy> how do I know if it's on? There's n o "set as manager" or anything in the emerald settings. :/
[00:32] <filipegatti> hmm, try finding the option that makes it "on". i gotta go now, sorry i can't help you anymore
[00:32] <filipegatti> see you and good luck
[00:32] <dnyy> that's fine, thanks. :)
[00:33] <filipegatti> foda-se
[00:33] <filipegatti> sou bicha
[00:33] <filipegatti> nevermind, that was my friend :(
[00:36] <dnyy> well i got xfce to stay disabled, but still can't make emerald start ;(
[01:13] <robertMB> so does anyone know of a fix to remove the panels when games are running?
[01:14] <kaliree> Hey there!
[01:14] <kaliree> I'm having trouble with the Xubuntu 8.10 alternate install
[01:16] <robertMB> kaliree, what kind of problem?
[01:17] <kaliree> ACPI: Invalid PBLK length[0]
[01:17] <kaliree> Then it just keeps checking for "src1" and something about a block error.
[01:18] <kaliree> The HDD is fine though.
[01:18] <kaliree> Old, but fine.
[02:22] <chipsoft> Hi
[02:22] <chipsoft> can someone help me?
[03:22] <DaveDixonII> How do i make chmod apply to all folders and files?
[03:38] <dnyy> well, i was about to answer him :(
[04:33] <vintagevalves> Hello folks.  I'm not sure of the etiquitte, but I'm in need of a bit of assistance.
[04:37] <R1coch3t> ask away, if some1 can help they will
[04:38] <vintagevalves> R1: Cool thanks
[04:39] <vintagevalves> I'm having a problem getting GRUB to boot on some 'antique' hardware: An IBM Thinkpad i series (old p2 with 256mb of ram)
[04:40] <vintagevalves> Have tried a few different installs which i'll outline
[04:40] <vintagevalves> Install 1.  Xubunu full CD - Chose guided partiioning using the full disc  - Result : Grub hung at loading Stage1.5
[04:41] <vintagevalves> install2. Xubuntu full CD Manually partitioned created a 100mb /boot partition approx 29gb main partiition and 768mb swap
[04:42] <vintagevalves> Result.  GRUB loading1.5 hangs with error 15
[04:42] <vintagevalves> Install 3.  Xubuntu alternative CD same manual partition as above, same result
[04:42] <vintagevalves> Then I did a COMPLETE format to all 0's using a UBCD
[04:43] <vintagevalves> Reinstalled like step 2
[04:43] <vintagevalves> now, I'm hanging at GRUB loading 2
[04:43] <vintagevalves> I've made a few 'super grub discs' one CD one Floppy.  Both boot, but then are unresponsive
[04:43] <vintagevalves> so, that's where I'm at.
[04:45] <vintagevalves> From what I've googled, it seems like GRUB is having trouble figuring out the hard drive specs from the bios or something.
[04:45] <vintagevalves> Xubuntu does load from the live CD okay.
[05:14] <vintagevalves> Interestingly, a few other distro's live CDs (SLAX, Puppy) will not even load
[05:14] <vintagevalves> I'm thinking that this system just doesn't like linux
[05:15] <vintagevalves> I was just messing with it for a friend, so I guess I'm going to be giving it back to him with good ole Win98
[05:15] <R1coch3t> ouch
[05:16] <vintagevalves> Too bad because I was bragging about 'how easy' linux for me was to install (on my less antique machines)
[05:16] <vintagevalves> lol
[05:16] <R1coch3t> £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ
[05:16] <R1coch3t> §orry i have no idea
[05:16] <R1coch3t> only been on linux for 4 months
[05:17] <vintagevalves> Not a problem.  I've tinkered with it for 8 years or so on and off.  Ubuntu is by far the best (easiest) distro i've experienced
[05:17] <vintagevalves> But this problem has me stumped, because i'm by no means an expert
[06:25] <coldhak_> I have a USB headset, i plugged it in, it doesn't appear to work at all. i'm on xubuntu 8.04.1. alist -l doesn't show it detecting the headset. where to start?
[06:47] <dsmith_> coldhak_: lsusb
[06:49] <coldhak_> it is detected in lsusb
[06:51] <coldhak_> lsmod | grep snd-usb-audio returns nothing
[06:51] <coldhak_> i think this might be the problem, but i don't know
[06:53] <TheSheep> !sound
[06:54] <dnyy> Anyone here using emerald with xubuntu?
[06:55] <dnyy> I'm having trouble getting it working.  I've disabled xfce managing my desktop, but it still won't start.  When I run 'emerald --replace' in terminal I get:
[06:55] <dnyy> (emerald:6690): Wnck-WARNING **: Property _NET_WM_NAME contained invalid UTF-8
[06:56] <dnyy> :/
[07:00] <shane_> hello anyone have success installing a Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express in intrpid
[07:02] <shane_> Odd-rationale, my xubuntu intrepid shows the cam when i lsusb but i cant seem to use it any ideas
[07:42] <eweb100> Hello.
[07:43] <eweb100> How do i extend my desktop to my 2d monoter?
[07:43] <eweb100>  moniter
[07:43] <eweb100> hello?
[07:44] <eweb100> ....
[07:44] <eweb100> ....
[07:44] <eweb100> FINE EGNORE ME
[07:44] <eweb100> gosh.
[07:45] <eweb100> hello
[07:45] <eweb100> is anyone there?
[07:45] <eweb100> HHHEEELLLOOOO?
[07:46] <R1coch3t> hello
[07:46] <R1coch3t> im here
[07:47] <R1coch3t> where do i add user themes to get them to show up in the settings dialog?
[07:47] <R1coch3t> add the files*
[07:48] <TheSheep> in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes
[07:49] <dnyy> ~/ being your home/username/ dir
[07:54] <R1coch3t> thank you
[07:54] <R1coch3t> and splash screens?
[10:20] <R1coch3t> !ICS
[11:07] <kroiz> hi, I have added another user, how can I install install staff for him
[11:07] <kroiz> this user does not have priviliges to apt-get
[11:08] <kroiz> can I just su kroiz and then do apt-get?
[11:08] <TheSheep> kroiz: add him to apropriate group in Users and Groups
[11:08] <TheSheep> 'admin' group or something like that
[11:09] <kroiz> but I don't want him to be admin
[11:09] <TheSheep> you want him to be able to use sudo?
[11:09] <kroiz> I don't want him to be able to mess things up.
[11:09] <TheSheep> then what do you want? I'm confused
[11:10] <kroiz> I just want to install some basic things to get him going
[11:10] <kroiz> like extra games
[11:10] <TheSheep> applications usually install globally, for all users
[11:11] <kroiz> also I want to install lamp
[11:13] <kroiz> maybe I should temporarly give him admin priviliges and after everything is set up take them away
[11:20] <R1cochet> is it ok to remove libgd2-noxpm? i went to install reconstructor and it said it needed to remove libgd2-noxpm
[11:22] <TheSheep> kroiz: you can do it just fine with su
[11:22] <TheSheep> kroiz: if you want to become someone else temporarily
[11:23] <kroiz> but isn't becoming someone else means I take their env with me
[11:23] <kroiz> ?
[11:25] <TheSheep> env?
[11:25] <TheSheep> applications are installed globally, not per user
[11:33] <kroiz> TheSheep, ok thanks.
[12:20] <heapy> hello
[12:20] <heapy> just a quick one. what does sudo apt-get upgrade do ?
[12:24] <heapy> i am runnin hardy xubuntu, does that command upgrade all the programs? i mean, for hardy? or does it upgrade to 8.10 ?
[12:24] <TheSheep> it only upgrades programs for hardy
[12:33] <tingle> i got some application shortcuts in applications menu that i dont want how can i remove those? settings > settings manager > edit menu doest seem to work..
[12:38] <TheSheep> you can uninstall those applications
[12:42] <tingle> TheSheep: i did but i quess i did it wrong ;x sudo apt-get remove --purge wine and i uninstalled the win32 application whitin wine.
[12:43] <tingle> TheSheep: now i still see wine and the win32 application in my applications menu
[12:43] <TheSheep> tingle: remove the .wine directry from your home directory
[12:43] <TheSheep> tingle: and .local/share/applications/wine/
[12:48] <tingle> TheSheep: thank you that worked
[12:49] <tingle> TheSheep: what is .local/share/applications/ for a folder exaclty?
[12:56] <TheSheep> tingle: it hold modified copies of files form /usr/share/applications
[12:56] <TheSheep> tingle: your menu is built with them
[13:46] <tingle> TheSheep: thanks good to know.
[14:00] <xxploit> question for the xfce-pkg-updates ppa, is there a reason xfdesktop4-data is not included since xfdesktop4 depends on it?
[15:26] <Nikola-Xub> How can i promote Xubuntu?
[15:29] <TheSheep> Nikola-Xub: http://xubuntu.org/contribute/marketing
[16:07] <heapy> hello
[16:09] <heapy> i have a fresh install of xubuntu 8.04 hardy. i have just ran apt-get updathe te in the terminal... do i install all the stuff in update manager? it's about 200mb worth
[16:12] <heapy> i am only wonderoing
[16:12] <heapy> cus earlier, i ran apt-get upgrade, and installed everything and that seem'd to cock up!!
[16:28] <moj0rising> hi. anyone here?
[16:30] <TheSheep> no
[16:31] <TheSheep> only us, mice
[16:43] <moj0rising> :)
[16:44] <moj0rising> I have a silly question.
[16:44] <moj0rising> can anyone tell me how to change the keyring password?
[16:44] <moj0rising> I've searched the forums and google but can't find it.
[16:56] <nomemory> hello, what's the "clean" way to change the default text editor in Xubuntu.
[16:56] <nomemory> ?
[16:57] <heapy> fresh install of xubuntu hardy, have ran apt get update.. do i need *all these updates? i mean cus some of them say 2.6.24-22 kernel and hardy has the -19 kernel? im confused please help :)
[16:58] <nomemory> the new updates (after your fresh install) contains also a kernel update.
[17:00] <heapy> oh so i should install the whole lot?
[17:00] <nomemory> i am not really sure, I've made all the upgrades and nothing bad happened :) (i've had to restart the computer0
[17:00] <nomemory> :)
[17:06] <heapy> oke ta m8
[17:07] <heapy> bbs
[17:07] <Nikola-Xub> Is Xubuntu good for a home laptop?My family will use it too
[17:08] <nomemory> I have Xubuntu 8.10 installed on my laptop (dell inspiron 1525) and it's performing very nice :)
[17:08] <Nikola-Xub> Cool
[17:09] <Nikola-Xub> I also plan on doing some programming.
[17:09] <nomemory> what kind of programming ?
[17:09] <Nikola-Xub> Java,Ruby,C, learning...
[17:10] <nomemory> Well, you can use Eclipse or Netbeans
[17:10] <Nikola-Xub> Cool!
[17:10] <Nikola-Xub> I can't wait to try Xubuntu :D
[17:10] <nomemory> Have you tested XFCE before ?
[17:11] <Nikola-Xub> No.
[17:11] <nomemory> Xubuntu is not as eye-candy as Ubuntu
[17:11] <Nikola-Xub> I know, i watched the pictures.
[17:11] <nomemory> it's more "minimalistic"
[17:11] <Nikola-Xub> Cool!
[17:11] <Nikola-Xub> I need something that will be light and fast
[17:11] <nomemory> but is faster
[17:12] <Nikola-Xub> I tried Kubuntu, but it run too slow
[17:13] <nomemory> What's your laptop configuration ?
[17:13] <Nikola-Xub> I don't know really, i got it a couple of weeks ago
[17:13] <Nikola-Xub> Still new :)
[17:14] <Nikola-Xub> Is it possible to write an Operating system in Ruby?
[17:14] <nomemory> NO
[17:14] <Nikola-Xub> :(
[17:14] <Nikola-Xub> lol
[17:14] <nomemory> you cannot write an operating system in Ruby
[17:14] <nomemory> :)
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> Why
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> ?
[17:15] <nomemory> it's an interpreted language
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> What's it's use?
[17:15] <nomemory> you don't direct access to hdd resources
[17:15] <nomemory> Ruby is used on Web Developing
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> :(
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> Darn lol
[17:15] <Nikola-Xub> What about Perl?
[17:16] <nomemory> No :)
[17:16] <Nikola-Xub> Java? :O
[17:16] <nomemory> No :))
[17:16] <Nikola-Xub> <_<
[17:17] <nomemory> whois Nikola-Xub
[17:18] <Nikola-Xub> I am lol
[17:20] <Nikola-Xub> whois nomemory
[17:56] <filipegatti> hi there. I need to connect on a computer here in my local network, it is linux also, what software I need to have? Samba?
[18:17] <charlie-tca> !Samba
[18:17] <charlie-tca> !nfs
[18:17] <charlie-tca> !networking
[18:18] <charlie-tca> !network
[18:19] <Rootvonroot> testing...
[18:20] <Rootvonroot> I have a xubuntu 8.04 question concerning sound
[18:22] <Rootvonroot> I'm assuming 56 folks are afk... and i'm new to irc so here goes...
[18:23] <diel> I'm new too so...
[18:23] <Rootvonroot> I have a thinkpad 600 with xubuntu 8.04 ... the sound card is not being recognized (i think) any suggestions
[18:24] <dnyy> Rootvonroot: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-68074.html
[18:24] <dnyy> Someone found a solution on page 2
[18:25] <Rootvonroot> thank you for the link - i'm checking it out now
[18:25] <dnyy> :)
[18:25] <dnyy> Beyond googlin' it, I have no idea. :p
[18:26] <diel> In xubuntu, is there anything like Ubuntu's 'Connect to Server'? Or any other way to get SSH/SFTP location in a GUI?
[18:27] <charlie-tca> diel: Yes
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Thunar file manager -> Go -> Open location
[18:29] <diel> charlie-tca: Done that, I'm faced with a location - is there particular syntax for ssh?
[18:29] <dnyy> Anyone know how to get emerald working in xubuntu without compiz?  I keep getting an error when trying to start it. :/
[18:30] <charlie-tca> I don´t use thunar for it, try "USER@IP_address" maybe. That works in terminal
[18:30] <dnyy> (emerald:6690): Wnck-WARNING **: Property _NET_WM_NAME contained invalid UTF-8 (the error)
[18:30] <charlie-tca> I don´t think emerald works without compiz, dnyy
[18:31] <dnyy> ah, well dang. if i turned all the compiz effects off, would it hog much memory?
[18:31] <dnyy> i'm trying to keep it light, but still want it to look nice ;p
[18:31] <charlie-tca> no idea, I never install compiz
[18:32] <diel> charlie-tca: nope, its not having anything but a local location.  Its no biggie, scp works file I just to 'see' things! Thanks :)
[18:32] <charlie-tca> sorry I could not help :(
[18:32] <diel> no prob!
[18:33] <Nikola-Xub> !xubuntu
[18:47] <tingle> !xubuntu-channels
[18:55] <Rootvonroot> permissions question - i'm trying to edit /etc/modules (with default program abiword) but i don't have persmissions... how can i edit that file?
[18:56] <medoctron> Rootvonroot: sudo mousepad /etc/modules
[18:56] <Rootvonroot> thank you
[19:01] <heapy> hello
[19:01] <dnyy> 'elo
[19:01] <heapy> owright lad
[19:02] <heapy> don't suppose you know how to get me flash workin on xubuntu 8.04? - i have installed flashplugin non free from synaptic but it doesnt seem to be working for youtube m8
[19:03] <dnyy> I'm not using 8.04, but have you tried downloading the restricted extras package?
[19:03] <heapy> mm no i haven't , i will look
[19:03] <dnyy> it has the flash plugins, java plugins, and a few other things i can't think of atm
[19:23] <Rootvonroot> in this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188736  ... the part that says ...  "Find the line that begins with "# kopt="... and append this to it:
[19:23] <Rootvonroot>  Code:acpi=force pci=noacpi pnpbios=off pci=usepirqmask"  ... do i replace everything after "# kopt=" or do I add  "Code:acpi=force pci=noacpi pnpbios=off pci=usepirqmask" to the end of the default line associtated with "# kopt=" ?
[19:30] <Rootvonroot> i'm rebooting and can say whether or not 'appending' the appropriate code at the end of the default line (not replacing) has worked or not...
[19:35] <Rootvonroot> nope - broke my installation - not booting now
[19:35] <Rootvonroot> yea for me
[19:41] <Rootvonroot> well .. i do have comand line - might be able to fix it
[19:41] <Rootvonroot> oh oh - i've been editing files in mousepad - but i have no graphics support ... is there a text based editor i can use?
[19:43] <charlie-tca> nano
[19:44] <Rootvonroot> thank you
[19:45] <charlie-tca> You´re welcome. I´m glad I could help. Good luck
[19:46] <Rootvonroot> can i get nano to edit in root mode?
[19:47] <charlie-tca> sudo nano
[19:47] <boerni> get root user
[19:50] <Rootvonroot> i used sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and when i went to save it said "...read-only file system"
[19:55] <boerni> Rootvonroot: show the output of the 'mount' command. are you german?
[19:59] <heapy> hello
[20:00] <Nikola-Xub> Hey Heapy
[20:00] <heapy> hiya Nikola
[20:01] <Rootvonroot> i'm american ... output of mount:
[20:01] <Rootvonroot> anything in partiulcar ... i can't copy and paste (the system is on another computer)
[20:02] <heapy> i am trying to make xubuntu run stable , but i seem to be having lockup problems, it happens on regular ubuntu also. i think it is something to do wiv the updates. and when the kernel changes, does this make any sense , cus im new to linux!!!
[20:02] <boerni> Rootvonroot: nopaste.com and paste there the ouput of mount
[20:02] <boerni> perhaps the filesystem ist read-only mounted
[20:02] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: what do you mean lockup?
[20:03] <Rootvonroot> my xubuntu machine is running in command line mode only - how to i use nopaste.com on that machine?
[20:03] <heapy> well the system just freezes. no mouse movement, wireless drops, and no ctrl alt del, have to hard shutdown... it happens quite often, but random times
[20:04] <Nikola-Xub> try and reinstall
[20:04] <Nikola-Xub> Or update it
[20:04] <Rootvonroot> i'll just type it here on my dell ... stand by...
[20:04] <boerni> Rootvonroot: there are several command line internetbrowsers: w3m lynx and links
[20:04] <TheSheep> heapy: sounds like a hardware problem, did you look into the logs after such a restart?
[20:04] <heapy> i think thats the whole problem, when i update it...
[20:05] <boerni> try to install one of them (links is great) with apt-get install links
[20:05] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: don't update it then... :D
[20:05] <Rootvonroot> hmm ... that's new (for me) - i'll check them
[20:05] <Nikola-Xub> Reinstall then don't update it
[20:05] <heapy> i have looked at logs, but canny find much to help. nothing jumps out and shouts *this is the problem fix me, fix me* :)
[20:06] <Nikola-Xub> lol
[20:06] <Rootvonroot> which one do you suggest for a super noob like me
[20:06] <Nikola-Xub> reinstall then don't update it...
[20:06] <heapy> i thought it was the ram sheep, but i ran memtest for 13hrs without an error
[20:07] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: since when do you have a ram and a sheep?I LOVE those 2 animals lol
[20:07] <Rootvonroot> gonna try to install through command line
[20:07] <heapy> yeah thats what i have done just now nikola, hope its stable
[20:07] <boerni> Rootvonroot: sudo apt-get install links2
[20:07] <Rootvonroot> will do
[20:07] <boerni> or sudo apt-get install lynx
[20:07] <Nikola-Xub> heapy cool, good luck
[20:07] <Nikola-Xub> :)
[20:07] <heapy> bbbaaarrrr rrrraaammmm eeewwww
[20:08] <Rootvonroot> links2 and lynx both did not install
[20:09] <heapy> i have done a zillion re-installs this wkend.. im sure its a software conflict somewhere. & now i dont have sound! jeez im cursed
[20:09] <Rootvonroot> "not using locking for read only lock file bla bla" "unable to wrtie to /var/cashe/apt/" " hte package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened"
[20:09] <boerni> youve got a read only root filesystem. reboot and mount it as read/write filesystem
[20:09] <Rootvonroot> for both lynx2 and lynx
[20:10] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: turn sound speakears on? :D
[20:10] <heapy> you bugger you
[20:10] <Nikola-Xub> haha
[20:10] <Rootvonroot> i can reboot easily enough, how to i mount as read/write filesystem?
[20:10] <heapy> & i cant install the nvidia drivers, it fails when attempting to get the restricted drivers, oh my life
[20:11] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: you must be connected to internet
[20:11] <Nikola-Xub> It happens to me too
[20:11] <heapy> lol
[20:11] <Nikola-Xub> :D
[20:11] <heapy> you turnip
[20:11] <boerni> in /etc/fstab must have  the rootfilesystem the option rw or defaults. if it hasnt, boot into a live CD and change it
[20:12] <Rootvonroot> i'll try booting into the live cd and changing it ..
[20:13] <heapy> bum
[20:13] <heapy> just tried to paste the msg, but it didnt
[20:14] <Nikola-Xub> u need to do the following: copy it, then right click on this window and paste it
[20:14] <Nikola-Xub> In linux, you can't press ctrl+v, it won't work
[20:14] <heapy> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+2.6.24.13-18.41_i386.deb
[20:14] <heapy>   404 Not Found
[20:14] <heapy> thanks
[20:14] <Rootvonroot> can i boot from the live cd and then change the files on the hardrive back to the oriinal state?
[20:16] <heapy> i was told to use parted magic for playing with partitions and formatting easily if thats what you need to do like
[20:19] <heapy> gabkdlly doesn't like me, i ask him to help me with the most stupid things on linux, i swear down he must think im a numpty
[20:20] <Rootvonroot> i think i might just reinstal...
[20:21] <Rootvonroot> aka - i give up - but thank you for all your helps everyone  ... take 2
[20:22] <Nikola-Xub> heapy: he what?
[20:22] <heapy> good luck lad, i been doin that loads lately
[20:23] <heapy> i have been having the worst time trying to get a stable ubuntu workin on this laptop. i thought it was to do with my wireless, i get lockups all the time. so i have been comming in here, and using the forums to try and find out if anyone knew what was causing it... gabk is good help
[20:25] <heapy> it's weird, now it seems stable (i havent done apt-get update) . but i canny install my video drivers, get flash to work, or have any sound!
[20:27] <heapy> when i did apt-get update and installed 200mb of 'updates' firefox changed from 3.0 to 3.04 or something, and the kernel changes also.. i think thats when i get the problems
[20:29] <Nikola-Xub> I am making a Linux, and the base will be Xubuntu :D :D :D
[20:29]  * heapy can you make it idiot proof? 
[20:30] <Nikola-Xub> What?
[20:30] <heapy> dont worry :)
[20:35] <Nikola-Xub> brb...
[20:38] <ImBrian> is it just me, or did an update yesterday break xubuntu desktop?
[20:38] <heapy> bbs
[20:40] <ImBrian> oh, I see - update to xfdesktop-data but not to xfdesktop4 yesterday breaks everything.  Guess I'll not use my computer till someone updates xfdesktop4 to 4.4.3-0
[20:41] <charlie-tca> what version of xubuntu?
[20:41] <ImBrian> current
[20:42] <charlie-tca> so, 8.10 or 8.04? I run 8.10 here and it´s working okay
[20:42] <ImBrian> 8.10 - have you done a full update?
[20:42] <ImBrian> xfdesktop-data should be at version 4.4.3-0
[20:42] <charlie-tca> Yes, ran one yesterday.
[20:43] <ImBrian> I've enabled all repos, but haven't added any new ones
[20:44] <charlie-tca> I just did a fresh install on another system, completely updated it, and it´s working too
[20:44] <ImBrian> what is your version of xfdesktop-data?
[20:46] <charlie-tca>  4.4.2-7ubuntu3
[20:46] <ImBrian> and you have all your repos enabled?  You should have gotten 4.4.3 unless they pulled it
[20:46] <charlie-tca> on both machines!
[20:47] <ImBrian> xfdesktop4:
[20:47] <ImBrian>   Depends: xfdesktop4-data (=4.4.2-7ubuntu3) but 4.4.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 is to be installed
[20:48] <charlie-tca> have you got proposed enabled?
[20:48] <ImBrian> I enabled all in my sources.list
[20:49] <ImBrian> I don't think proposed is one that was included (even disabled)
[20:49] <kaliree> I know this is the Xubuntu channel, but I have been trying to find answers to a Puppy Linux question, and I didn't know if anyone might be able to help?
[20:50] <ImBrian> so I removed xfdesktop4-data (the one that's too current) and updated, hoping it was pulled and would have deprecated - but still no luck
[20:50] <charlie-tca> Under updates in synaptic-package-manager -> repositories -> Updates
[20:52] <ImBrian> there we go - backports had an update to xfdesktop4-data which conflicted with xfdesktop4
[20:53] <ImBrian> brb - restarting x
[20:54] <ImBrian> all is well in the world
[20:55] <charlie-tca> :-)
[20:57] <ImBrian> thanks for the help - guess I gotta watch out for updates to backports
[21:01] <heapy> hello
[21:02] <heapy> anyone using xubuntu 8.04 hardy, could you tell me what kernel version you are using please?
[21:03] <charlie-tca> heapy: 2.6.24-22-generic
[21:04] <charlie-tca> That is on a 32-bit system
[21:05] <heapy> mmm
[21:05] <heapy> is that the hardy version charlie?
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Yes. Xubuntu 8.04.1
[21:06] <charlie-tca> all updates as of this morning
[21:06] <charlie-tca> My 64-bit is not up to date
[21:06] <heapy> mm i just done the updates too, mine is using 2,6.24-19 generic..
[21:07] <charlie-tca> and it completed the updates? Maybe the internet connection failed
[21:08] <heapy> yeah it done the lot
[21:08] <heapy> i just had to check the cd again to make sure it was 8.04.1
[21:08] <charlie-tca> My 64-bit is 2.6.24-21
[21:08] <charlie-tca> and it is not up to date
[21:09] <heapy> to get the updates to show in the update manager, do i do.. apt-get updates ?
[21:09] <heapy> sudo
[21:09] <charlie-tca> I do that in terminal, then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get it to fully update
[21:10] <heapy> the only thing it asked me was if i wanted to keep the existing grub menu.lst or change...
[21:11] <charlie-tca> did you keep it?
[21:11] <heapy> yeah
[21:11] <heapy> i think!
[21:11] <charlie-tca> you have to go to /boot/grub and update it manually now. It won´t show 22 if you told it not to update
[21:13] <heapy> what should i of chosen? to use the other menu?
[21:13] <heapy> title		Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
[21:15] <heapy> alright thanks for the help, will bbs :) x
[21:15] <charlie-tca> Yeah, to let it replace it.
[21:37] <Whit1> I've got a dell inspiron 3200, with xubuntu 7.10 on it, and my audio doesn't work, it's a cs4237b chipset, i've done googled all i can and found solutions, but still no sound
[21:38] <Whit1> i've tried modprobe snd-4236(there's no 4237 module)
[21:39] <Whit1> lspnp picks it up, but not lspci(it's ISA)
[21:40] <tingle> i would like to use alt+1 alt+2 ect in xterm for a irc application called irssi. i cant by default i remember you have to tweak something in a xterm config file.. can someone help me out?
[21:40] <Whit1> i'm lost.  I'm so used to windows, where i just download a driver and install
[21:46] <tingle> Whit1: it should find and ask you to istall new drivers if it sound work out of the box.. not sure how you can check your specs though..
[21:47] <Whit1> it works in windows
[21:48] <Whit1> but windows xp runs real slow on here, so i get audio of stability and speed?
[21:49] <Whit1> audio or stability and speed*
[21:49] <tingle> Whit1: hm there are no garentees.. you can try the live cd to check it before you install it on your hd
[21:49] <tingle> Whit1: but im almost certain that it will run
[21:51] <Whit1> i've run kubuntu 8.10, xubuntu 7.10 and freespire live CDs they all work, but the audio doesn't on any of them
[21:51] <Whit1> and xubuntu 7.10 is instaled and fully updated
[21:51] <tingle> good so you already installed it
[21:51] <Whit1> yes, but no audio
[21:52] <tingle> what card do you have?
[21:52] <Whit1> i'd have tried slackware, but kde doesn't work on there
[21:52] <tingle> slackware is a bit more complicated xD
[21:52] <Whit1> from what i've read i have a crystal cs4237b
[21:53] <Whit1> yes but slack is much more robust(3 cd's vs 1, many more programs and drivers)
[21:55] <tingle> Whit1: http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/xubuntu-thinkpad770e.html
[21:55] <tingle> Whit1: this might help a howto on xubuntu and crystal cs4237b try it and find out
[21:55] <tingle> Whit1: google is your friend ;x
[22:19] <heapy> helloa
[22:25] <heapy> can someone help me to get sound on xubuntu 8.04 please? i have some kind of intergrated intel, on a dell m1530xps laptop. im unsure what to do.
[22:27] <heapy> according to dell's website the card is a SIGMATEL STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio
[22:34] <heapy> bbs
[23:33] <gasmask> Hi guys, I get a "ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" when I try to VNC to my file server, any tips? I installed vncserver. Server is running xubuntu and I am running ubuntu 8.04
[23:42] <linker> hi from spain
[23:51] <linuxman410> does any one know how to enable desktop effects in xubuntu
[23:52] <TheSheep> !compiz | linuxman410
[23:52] <linuxman410> thanks