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| ubottu | Schedule for Asia/Singapore: 16 Dec 03:00: LoCo Council | 16 Dec 09:00: Forum Council | 16 Dec 19:00: Community Council | 17 Dec 00:00: Server Team | 17 Dec 01:00: Kernel Team | 18 Dec 00:00: Foundation Team | 03:42 |
| ziroday | @schedule New Zealand | 03:42 |
| ubottu | Error: Unknown timezone: New Zealand - Full list: http://tinyurl.com/4vyvp8 | 03:42 |
| ziroday | @schedule Auckland | 03:43 |
| ubottu | Schedule for Pacific/Auckland: 16 Dec 08:00: LoCo Council | 16 Dec 14:00: Forum Council | 17 Dec 00:00: Community Council | 17 Dec 05:00: Server Team | 17 Dec 06:00: Kernel Team | 18 Dec 05:00: Foundation Team | 03:43 |
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| juliux | hi | 18:33 |
| juliux | i will be a little bit late | 18:33 |
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| juliux | still at work | 18:33 |
| ButterflyOfFire | hi juliux | 18:33 |
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| boredandblogging | juliux: thats fine, so will popey | 18:36 |
| Robb_M | im sorry for all the nickname changes guys, trying to get an unaffiliated cloak set up. | 18:37 |
| Robb_M | so i had to group a nickname or two. | 18:37 |
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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: LoCo Council Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 16 Dec 01:00: Forum Council | 16 Dec 11:00: Community Council | 16 Dec 16:00: Server Team | 16 Dec 17:00: Kernel Team | 17 Dec 16:00: Foundation Team | ||
| boredandblogging | we don't have enough people for a LoC Council meeting | 18:56 |
| boredandblogging | LoCo | 18:56 |
| boredandblogging | waiting on one more | 18:56 |
| elendil | hi @all | 18:58 |
| boredandblogging | elendil: are you here for the loco council meeting? | 18:59 |
| elendil | of course ;) | 18:59 |
| _j1mc | hi all - working from home today | 18:59 |
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| felipexil | hi! | 19:00 |
| j1mc | can listen in | 19:00 |
| j1mc | hi boredandblogging | 19:00 |
| boredandblogging | j1mc: hey! | 19:00 |
| boredandblogging | not sure we will have this meeting | 19:00 |
| j1mc | np | 19:00 |
| boredandblogging | we need one more member | 19:00 |
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| j1mc | nixternal: ping | 19:01 |
| al2 | hi | 19:01 |
| regml1 | Hi | 19:01 |
| crazyness003_ | hello | 19:04 |
| ButterflyOfFire | hi | 19:04 |
| crazyness003_ | just wanted to test this out. Havent been on irc in ages | 19:04 |
| ButterflyOfFire | So the LoCo Council Meeting will be hold tomorrow ? | 19:05 |
| crazyness003_ | ? | 19:05 |
| janc_EEE_900 | maybe in 10-15 minutes | 19:05 |
| ButterflyOfFire | I saw the subject changed so | 19:05 |
| ButterflyOfFire | Okay thanks janc_EEE_900 , anyway I'm not far | 19:06 |
| janc_EEE_900 | the subject says "Current meeting: LoCo Council " ;-) | 19:06 |
| ButterflyOfFire | ok ;) | 19:06 |
| regml1 | OK, still waiting then | 19:06 |
| al2 | ok | 19:07 |
| crazyness003_ | anyone know about the ForumCouncilMeeting? | 19:07 |
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| ButterflyOfFire | It is listed on the subject crazyness003_ | 19:09 |
| crazyness003 | oops. thanks | 19:10 |
| ButterflyOfFire | ;) | 19:10 |
| crazyness003 | hang on. exactly what time will it be. the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda states 0100 UTC, but on here it has 2 diff times with no timezone/standard specified | 19:12 |
| ButterflyOfFire | Have a look here too crazyness003 : http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | 19:13 |
| ButterflyOfFire | I'm lost among all the GMT's :p | 19:14 |
| * popey pings ButterflyOfFire | 19:15 | |
| popey | er boredandblogging | 19:15 |
| ButterflyOfFire | yep | 19:15 |
| boredandblogging | popey! | 19:15 |
| popey | boredandblogging! | 19:15 |
| boredandblogging | ok, we have enough people | 19:15 |
| boredandblogging | janc_EEE_900: ping | 19:15 |
| boredandblogging | shall we get started? | 19:15 |
| ButterflyOfFire | hi olive heu .. sorry popey :p | 19:15 |
| janc_EEE_900 | yep, I'm here | 19:16 |
| crazyness003 | ok. thanks ButterflyOfFire. I guess im a n00b afterall | 19:16 |
| popey | ButterflyOfFire: learn how to spell "popeye" :p | 19:16 |
| ButterflyOfFire | :p | 19:16 |
| boredandblogging | Galacia? | 19:17 |
| boredandblogging | oops | 19:17 |
| boredandblogging | Galicia | 19:17 |
| felipexil | yep | 19:17 |
| felipexil | here I am | 19:17 |
| felipexil | :) | 19:17 |
| boredandblogging | the application is very short | 19:18 |
| felipexil | ummm, I can provide more information | 19:19 |
| felipexil | please just point out the relevant information which you think is missing | 19:19 |
| boredandblogging | felipexil: have you seen other approval applications? | 19:19 |
| felipexil | yes | 19:20 |
| boredandblogging | is translation the main activitiy? | 19:20 |
| felipexil | ok, perhaps the most relevant | 19:20 |
| felipexil | think is that we are gaining focus | 19:20 |
| felipexil | in the Galician government | 19:20 |
| felipexil | and I want to take advantage of this moment | 19:20 |
| felipexil | we have been working mainly as a translators team | 19:21 |
| boredandblogging | felipexil: what events have you held? | 19:21 |
| felipexil | but the Galician government have just released | 19:21 |
| felipexil | a customized Galician Ubuntu version | 19:21 |
| felipexil | ok | 19:21 |
| felipexil | events: we have participated in two public meetings | 19:22 |
| felipexil | about free software | 19:22 |
| felipexil | the most recent was the release of the Galician customized Ubuntu version (aka Galinux, based on a metapackage: AraOS) | 19:22 |
| felipe_ | the best part about felipexil has to be his name :D | 19:22 |
| felipexil | we have also done an "install fest" at the University of Vigo | 19:22 |
| felipexil | felipe_: a good name :) | 19:23 |
| felipe_ | hehe, sorry, didn't mean to interrupt! just had to say ... | 19:23 |
| felipexil | we have also participated in a meeting about localization promoted by the Galician government | 19:23 |
| felipexil | and of course promoted Ubuntu in the local mailing lists | 19:23 |
| felipexil | translators teams | 19:24 |
| felipexil | GNU/Linux users teams | 19:24 |
| felipexil | government | 19:24 |
| felipexil | Universities (we have three here) | 19:24 |
| felipexil | In Galicia we are three million persons, but I think we have an active comunity | 19:24 |
| boredandblogging | felipexil: right, the application should list all those events in detail | 19:24 |
| popey | agreed | 19:24 |
| felipexil | ok, my mistake | 19:25 |
| popey | the mailing list is pretty quiet, how many members are there on it? | 19:25 |
| felipexil | the translators list? | 19:25 |
| boredandblogging | what is the LP team? | 19:25 |
| popey | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-l10n-gl/ | 19:26 |
| felipexil | approx 60 members | 19:26 |
| felipexil | https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-gl | 19:26 |
| felipexil | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-gl | 19:26 |
| felipexil | I would like to emphasize the fact that becoming now an official Ubuntu LoCo will give us visibility | 19:27 |
| boredandblogging | thats a translation team, do you have a team just for the LoCo? | 19:27 |
| felipexil | because of the presentation of the new Ubuntu based Galician distribution | 19:27 |
| felipexil | we are starting the team. I have asked for the forum and mailing list | 19:28 |
| popey | http://gal.ubuntuforums.org/ seems to just go to the front of the forums, not a specific area | 19:28 |
| felipexil | but the process is very slow | 19:28 |
| janc_EEE_900 | what relationship do you have with the Spanish LoCoTeam? | 19:28 |
| boredandblogging | where did you submit the mailing list request? | 19:29 |
| felipexil | yesterday I contacted one of the members of the forum council, they stated that we will have the forum soon | 19:29 |
| felipexil | relationship with the Spanish LoCo Team: I have not contacted them | 19:29 |
| felipexil | but, of course, in the future a close relation | 19:30 |
| popey | felipexil: is there a reason you haven't contacted the loco? | 19:30 |
| felipexil | will be sure | 19:30 |
| felipexil | no, lack of time | 19:30 |
| felipexil | about the list: I made the request to an automatic system | 19:30 |
| felipexil | and after a week I also sent an email to Jorge Castro | 19:30 |
| felipexil | (but he was in the developers summint) | 19:30 |
| felipexil | We will also contact the Catalan LoCo | 19:31 |
| felipexil | wich is close to us | 19:31 |
| boredandblogging | felipexil: think you have a good start, but the LoCo needs to get some of the basic infrastructure first | 19:31 |
| boredandblogging | and like you are starting to do, contact other LoCos around you | 19:32 |
| felipexil | yes, but that is a hard work :) | 19:32 |
| popey | I would like to see a more established loco page detailing past activity, plans for the future and structure | 19:32 |
| popey | felipexil: running a loco _is_ hard work :) | 19:32 |
| felipexil | :), I supposed so, but I expected that it would be easier to setup the infrastructure :) | 19:32 |
| janc_EEE_900 | you're already doing good work with the translations it seems | 19:32 |
| popey | yeah, agreed, work so far is great! but more needed IMO | 19:33 |
| boredandblogging | agree with janc_EEE_900 and popey, good start | 19:33 |
| felipexil | janc_EEE_900: thanks | 19:33 |
| felipexil | thanks @all | 19:33 |
| boredandblogging | good luck | 19:33 |
| felipexil | only one question: when should we apply again? | 19:34 |
| felipexil | after filling the application with more information | 19:34 |
| boredandblogging | felipexil: also remember to add yourself under wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList | 19:34 |
| popey | we usually recommend LoCos come back after 3 months | 19:34 |
| felipexil | or after having the infrastructure working during a time? | 19:34 |
| felipexil | ok | 19:34 |
| boredandblogging | Mali? | 19:35 |
| regml1 | yes | 19:35 |
| regml1 | We're there | 19:35 |
| regml1 | me and al2 | 19:36 |
| al2 | yes | 19:36 |
| popey | love the logo | 19:39 |
| regml1 | thanks | 19:39 |
| boredandblogging | mali has been working with ubuntu-fr? | 19:40 |
| regml1 | yes | 19:40 |
| regml1 | kindof | 19:40 |
| regml1 | we use and promote a lot docs.ubuntu-fr.org and distribute the offline version of the french documentation (based partly on a software we wrote) | 19:41 |
| popey | http://kura.kunnafoni.org/2008/05/16/kunnafoni-launches-“la-source”/ is interesting, is it still in place? | 19:41 |
| regml1 | yes it is ! | 19:42 |
| regml1 | we are taking it to the main malian ICT event next week | 19:42 |
| popey | do you have any stats of what it has done? | 19:42 |
| * janc_EEE_900 wonders if you could distribute Ubuntu through that radio station, like they did with Basicode in the 80s ;-) | 19:42 | |
| popey | heh | 19:42 |
| regml1 | well, most of downloads is Firefox and Openoffice | 19:42 |
| regml1 | also some free-licenced music | 19:43 |
| regml1 | I realize I haven't put the URL of the website : http://ubuntu.kunnafoni.org/ | 19:43 |
| regml1 | website is very recent thus | 19:43 |
| popey | are all your members in the same town? | 19:44 |
| regml1 | we have a couple from the outside | 19:45 |
| regml1 | but Mali is like a capital-only country (unfortunately) | 19:45 |
| regml1 | because except Bamako, most of country is very rural | 19:45 |
| popey | do people use internet cafes then? | 19:46 |
| popey | rather than own their own computer? | 19:46 |
| regml1 | yes, a lot ; but very expensive | 19:46 |
| regml1 | they have computers (in Bamako) but no Internet | 19:46 |
| regml1 | a 256kbps connexion (like ours) costs 600$ / year | 19:46 |
| popey | ouch | 19:47 |
| regml1 | that's why we are working with offline a lot | 19:47 |
| popey | have you organised any events in the area? | 19:49 |
| regml1 | no ; we're participating in that e-festival thing. Except that we've organized meetings but it was like 6-8 people | 19:49 |
| regml1 | oh and we've done an install party at university | 19:50 |
| janc_EEE_900 | using (only) the internet would be useless if almost nobody has internet, so the offline approach is good IMHO... | 19:50 |
| regml1 | but wasn t really successful :/ | 19:50 |
| popey | install party where nobody has computers? | 19:51 |
| regml1 | was at university : there were computers but we asked students to promote the party and there were only 6 people from which 3 were sleeping !! | 19:51 |
| popey | thats a shame | 19:52 |
| regml1 | yes :( | 19:52 |
| popey | What do you think could be done to improve things? | 19:52 |
| boredandblogging | regml1: do you think it would help closer with ubuntu-fr? would they be able to provide you with anything helpful? | 19:52 |
| regml1 | well, we need to work more on communication : we relied 100% on that student to promote the thing ; we should have printed posters and stuffs | 19:53 |
| popey | ok, the french team are _great_ at making posters! | 19:53 |
| popey | I suspect that you could learn a lot from the french team | 19:53 |
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| popey | in fact, _all_ of us can learn a lot from them | 19:53 |
| regml1 | yes we definitely want to reuse their posters ; and their last party sounded like a huge success | 19:53 |
| boredandblogging | agreed | 19:54 |
| ashubuntu | hello here, i'm jumping in. regml1, have you tried to work with other francophile countries on the african continent? | 19:54 |
| ashubuntu | or see how they do it, maybe they are running into the same issues as you are... | 19:55 |
| regml1 | yes we did ; we have contacts with people from Cote d'Ivoire and Morocco | 19:55 |
| popey | I'll be honest, I'd like to approve you because you clearly have a hard job, but I'd like to see a sustained effort over a little longer period, perhaps with some increased communication both within your team and with other LoCos before I'd +1 your approval. | 19:55 |
| regml1 | but they are not facing the same issues as our | 19:55 |
| popey | It must be difficult, I'm sure | 19:55 |
| regml1 | their countries are way more equiped on computers and connexions | 19:55 |
| popey | locos can work very well with little resources | 19:56 |
| regml1 | it is difficult ; here burning an ubuntu CD cost us 1.5$ while the average country-wide income is less than $1 a day | 19:56 |
| popey | regml1: are there any specific resources you are missing? | 19:56 |
| regml1 | being a loco would save us so much money | 19:56 |
| popey | this is where LoCo twinning would come in helpful. If the French (or other) loco could ship you some CDs, that might help? | 19:57 |
| regml1 | sure that would really help | 19:57 |
| janc_EEE_900 | maybe the french loco can help with the CDs ? | 19:57 |
| popey | it's an idea I have been thinking of for some time | 19:57 |
| regml1 | I had no idea the french loco had such power | 19:57 |
| boredandblogging | yes, we can talk to huats about this | 19:57 |
| popey | well, it would be a donation | 19:58 |
| popey | it would cost _someone_ money _somewhere_ | 19:58 |
| popey | but ideally not you | 19:58 |
| regml1 | yes | 19:58 |
| popey | if you can show some commitment to scheduling more events and promoting use of Ubuntu then I'm sure in return others will help you | 19:59 |
| boredandblogging | agreed | 19:59 |
| popey | I'd certainly be happy to ship you some spare Ubuntu CDs if I have them | 19:59 |
| regml1 | we want to set up that offline repository first | 19:59 |
| boredandblogging | same here, they aren't localized french, but still | 19:59 |
| regml1 | that's what have been slowing us down | 19:59 |
| popey | but I feel that becoming an approved team might need to wait for a little while | 19:59 |
| popey | regml1: offline repository? | 20:00 |
| regml1 | because ubuntu cd doesn't come with full french | 20:00 |
| regml1 | so people have to connect and downalod to have a correct setup | 20:00 |
| janc_EEE_900 | the french loco could send them, while other loco's help to pay... | 20:00 |
| regml1 | popey: yes ; a mirror of the Ubuntu repository | 20:00 |
| popey | I'd also be happy to send you a hard disk full of a mirror of the Ubuntu repo and ISO images | 20:00 |
| popey | talk to me offline about that - alanpope@ubuntu.com | 20:00 |
| regml1 | I did that on my computer when I traveled to france but had to delete it for space reason | 20:01 |
| popey | of course it wont be up to date, but it would be a snapshot | 20:01 |
| regml1 | thank you popey !!! | 20:01 |
| popey | well, it will be up to date on the day it's made :) | 20:01 |
| popey | np, it's something I've been thinking about anyway, it would be a good test of the process | 20:01 |
| regml1 | wonderful ! | 20:02 |
| boredandblogging | cool | 20:02 |
| popey | Ok, so we're agreed that you guys are going to contact the french loco and request assistance in the form of posters etc, and _we_ will contact them and ask if they are willing to help with CDs? | 20:02 |
| popey | and we can look at your approval application again in ~3 months? | 20:02 |
| popey | is that fair? | 20:02 |
| regml1 | sounds ok to us | 20:03 |
| regml1 | we'll contact the french shortly | 20:03 |
| popey | cool. boredandblogging would you be able to contact huats? | 20:03 |
| popey | I'll work on packaging up a hard disk and some other stuff for them | 20:04 |
| boredandblogging | regml1: what is your email? I'll send you and huats an email | 20:04 |
| janc_EEE_900 | and keep on getting ubuntu in the local media (radio etc.) | 20:04 |
| [NikO] | popey, you can come on #ubuntu-fr-meeting, and wait, he comes each day | 20:04 |
| regml1 | reg at nurv dot fr | 20:04 |
| popey | thanks [NikO] | 20:04 |
| regml1 | popey: I'll contact you by mail about that ; thanks again | 20:04 |
| popey | regml1: drop me a mail, so we can make contact and figure out what you want in this repository mirror, ok | 20:04 |
| regml1 | ok | 20:05 |
| boredandblogging | anything else? | 20:05 |
| popey | nope, that's all I think | 20:05 |
| regml1 | nope ; thank you all for those great progress to come ! | 20:06 |
| popey | no problem - keep up the great work! | 20:06 |
| boredandblogging | do we want to schedule the next meeting now? | 20:06 |
| regml1 | rushing for dinner ; bye | 20:06 |
| felipexil | bye! | 20:07 |
| popey | boredandblogging: sure | 20:08 |
| popey | boredandblogging: can we make it an hour later if it's a weekday? | 20:08 |
| ButterflyOfFire | When the next meeting for the Member approuval will be held ? | 20:08 |
| janc_EEE_900 | somewhere in January, I suppose? | 20:10 |
| boredandblogging | popey: sure | 20:10 |
| boredandblogging | yeah | 20:10 |
| ButterflyOfFire | Okay :) | 20:10 |
| [NikO] | ButterflyOfFire, it's depends your regional board, but i can't find the answer for europe :/ | 20:10 |
| boredandblogging | how about Monday 13 Jan 21:00UTC? | 20:11 |
| ButterflyOfFire | ok [NikO] | 20:11 |
| janc_EEE_900 | that date/time is okay for me | 20:13 |
| boredandblogging | popey? | 20:13 |
| janc_EEE_900 | BTW: for those who don't remember Basicode: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basicode | 20:15 |
| popey | sorry, making tea :) | 20:15 |
| popey | yes that date is fine by me | 20:15 |
| popey | an hour earlier would be fine also | 20:15 |
| boredandblogging | lets just try 21:00 and see what happens | 20:16 |
| popey | ok | 20:16 |
| popey | cool | 20:16 |
| boredandblogging | I'll update the wiki pages and stuff | 20:16 |
| popey | nice one | 20:16 |
| boredandblogging | alright, thanks everyone! | 20:16 |
| elendil | bye | 20:19 |
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