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phixLjL: You in?00:59
LjLphix: yes00:59
bazhangchfwiggum, did you have something else we could help you with?01:01
bazhangchfwiggum, please note the channel /topic and do not idle here.01:07
bazhang!idle | chfwiggum 01:16
ubottuchfwiggum: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.01:16
sloopy'ello01:34
Flannelsloopy: It's not your place to threaten our users01:34
sloopyflannel, no i am not thretening a random user, i am threatening my son, unfortunatly i would do it in msg but he doesnt understand them01:35
sloopyunfortunatly he has issues and since i am not at home would only mock me01:36
sloopymy apologizes for bringing 'family' matter into the channel01:36
Flannelsloopy: I already mentioned the language issue to him, and if he continued, we simply would ban him.  But public humiliation generally isn't a good way to go about influencing behavior changes like that.01:37
Flannelsloopy: I don't mean to tell you how to parent, of course01:37
sloopythats just it, he doesnt understand it is 'public' 01:37
Flannelbut we are capable of disciplining ourselves (and did).  To everyone else it's just someone picking on someone else, and we don't condone that, obviously.01:38
sloopyFlannel, and yes i understand you werent questing my parenting, but my actions in a public place01:38
sloopyheh mrs just called me...01:40
Flannelsloopy: You're both in -offtopic, that might be a better location01:45
bazhangchfwiggum, please dont idle here01:46
bazhangwow. he was in here since he got banned yesterday for the !danger command01:47
sloopyFlannel, i just had mrs give the msg in person...01:49
bazhangsloopy, please dont idle in here01:55
sloopysorry i am at work and wasnt paying attention...01:56
bazhangphix, please dont idle here02:01
bazhang!idle | phix 02:05
ubottuphix: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.02:05
bazhangphix, please read the channel topic and do not idle here.02:11
FlannelTraceRoute in -ot may need a looking at02:40
phixhello02:44
phixLjL: awesome you are here02:44
phixLjL: well I am still banned02:44
phixI will leave here now02:44
FlannelWhat an odd fellow.02:44
naliothhow do you close a bug in launchpad?04:07
jdongnalioth: drop down the status thingie?04:08
* Flannel holds off on the regular comments.04:08
naliothjdong: i get no dropdown with the status thingy04:08
jdongreally?04:08
jdongwhen you click the link in the Status column, nothing drops open?04:09
naliothnope04:10
naliothbut i clicked on something an invalidated the report04:10
jdongdoes appending /+editstatus to the bug URL do anything?04:10
naliothi clicked on "undecided" and thought i changed it to "invalid", but it seems i just added "invalid" to the options 04:11
naliothhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/308059    you can close it, if you wish04:12
ubot5`Launchpad bug 308059 in ubuntu "weard logs in dmesg involveing i think fsb" [Undecided,New] 04:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 308059 in ubuntu "weard logs in dmesg involveing i think fsb" [Undecided,New]04:12
naliothholy cow04:12
jdonghaha04:12
jdonglooks like you closed the bug correctly04:12
jdongyou don't get the status dropdown when you click Invalid?04:12
naliothnope04:13
jdongweirdness04:13
jdongheh launchpad being quirky... there's a surprise :)04:13
ubottuIn #ubuntu-bugs, zzxxzz said: ubottu is correct, the files are in the new location, but the icon is not changing from empty, nor giving an indication there is something in the trash.07:22
Myrttio hai08:57
FlannelHowdy Myrtti08:57
ikoniawhy did floodbot just unmute me, it didn't actually mute me to need to unmute me09:16
ikoniathere is no +z only a -z and it's accused me of flooding in the monitor for 1 line ?09:17
Flannelikonia: Because you were flooding09:17
FlannelTheyre freaking otu at the moment09:17
ikoniawhere is the +z though ?09:17
ikoniaI can't see it09:17
Flanneltheyre freaking out, so they don't +z09:17
ikoniabut it did -z me ?09:18
Flannelyes09:18
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Myrtti@login09:51
ubottuThe operation succeeded.09:51
Myrtti@btlogin09:51
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu (ritow_)09:54
Myrttithrylos, yes, you are banned10:08
Myrttithrylos, no, changing nicknames wont help10:09
thrylosi don't a give a shit10:09
Myrttithen what are you doing here then?10:09
thrylosi am fucking your mother10:10
FlannelMyrtti: Hes forwarded here.  Sounds like its time to remove said forward.10:10
ikoniaahhh sken again10:10
MyrttiFlannel, I'd think so too10:10
ikoniaFlannel: please don't remove the forward10:12
Flannelikonia: Why not?10:12
ikoniathats his default IP and he has to work had to change it10:12
ikoniait catches him a lot10:12
Flannelgot it10:13
ikoniata10:13
Jussio1Hi all11:07
ikoniaidiot11:49
ikoniahelp please11:49
ikonianever mind, false alarm 11:50
ikoniaI've removed a few old bans mostly ljl's (over 1.5 month) that are %100 dynamic addresses, I'll continue doing some house keeping later of bans that are 1 month + old AND have no comments AND are dynamic addresses unless someone has an objection or wants to clear there own stuff up11:51
bazhang* [maek0] (n=maek@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net): Maek12:21
bazhangQED12:21
Jack_Sparrowmorning bazhang 12:21
bazhangJack_Sparrow, nice eye12:22
bazhangikonia, ^^12:22
Jack_Sparrowmaek is a repeat offender right, when was his last ban lifted?12:24
Jack_Sparrowbazhang          maek is a repeat offender right, when was his last ban lifted?12:27
bazhangJack_Sparrow, yes, nice catch.12:29
Jack_Sparrow@btlogin12:29
bazhanghe was claiming that maek and maek0 were different people12:30
bazhangie it wasnt him12:30
Jack_SparrowOk..12:30
Jack_Sparrowthought so12:30
bazhangstill banned afaik12:30
bazhangjust wanted to point it out to ikonia that we found out the two were in fact one and the same12:30
Jack_Sparrowah.. ty12:31
bazhangthough just adding '0' to the back of your nick is not the most creative of ban evasion12:31
Jack_Sparrow4am something here, not quite awake12:31
bazhang:)12:31
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood)12:34
maek0Is anyone about to help me .. I have been banned incorrectly12:47
Jack_Sparrowbazhang  Would ou care to take this for me.12:48
Mez@btlogin12:55
Mez@bansearch maek0 12:56
ubottuMatch: *!*@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net by Jack_Sparrow in #ubuntu on Dec 15 2008 12:21:45 (ID: 7994)12:56
maek0yes hello Mez 12:56
Mezmaek0: one sec, researching12:58
maek0I was browsing the web on on side of my cube when I noticed that my xchat logo was blinking ... I went to have a look who was highlighting me .. and Jack_Sparrow said that I was running as root and it sounded like I was doing something very wrong 12:58
Jack_SparrowMez http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/13/%23ubuntu-ops.txt12:59
maek0it didn't occur to me that I had the Guest nick on and I thought It was very strange someone to highlight me out of the blue .. so then I thought I was doing something terribly wrong because someone specifically highlighted me13:00
Mezmaek0: one sec, researching13:01
Mez@bansearch maek13:01
ubottuNo matches found for maek!enforcer@services. in any channel13:01
maek0Mez, cool13:01
Mezikonia: ping13:06
Mezbazhang: ping13:06
Mezmaek0: what nick were you using when "someone kicked you for helping" ?13:08
maek0Mez, I think it was just plain "maek"13:09
maek0without the 013:09
bazhangMez, hi13:09
Mezbazhang: PM13:10
Mezmaek0: not bracksisahobo13:10
Mez?13:10
maek0Mez, no I am on an ISP which assigns dynamic IPs13:10
Mezmaek0: actually, no, that was someone in perth, not melbourne.. Sorry13:10
ikoniaMez: pong13:11
Mezikonia PM13:11
ikoniayup13:11
maek0but I was kicked and banned for helping someone with their Compiz settings ... the op totally ignored that I made a mistake by copy and pasting a little compiz how to I found13:12
maek0which resulted in multiple lines 13:13
maek0the OP didn't care to look that I was copying and pasting a how to on Compiz13:13
Mezmaek0: that's the past. Ignore it for now. It's been dealt with already - I'm just trying to find logs13:14
bazhangmaek0, so you and maek have no connection whatsoever?13:14
maek0the next ban was well my mistake .. by posting a ubuntu bug report that I found very funny because it reminded me of a old screensaver exploit in Windows 200013:15
Mezmaek0: ok, ok, I can't find any records of these bans apart from one last week...13:15
ikoniathank you for admiting that (geuinly) much better than "I'm alerting ubuntu people to security alerts" rubbish 13:15
ikoniamaek0: being straight with people gets you a lot futher with people13:16
maek0bazhang, well I used to be "maek" but it was taken by someone else cause they registered it now its maek013:16
bazhangmaek0, you got the pm from me yesterday?13:17
maek0ikonia, thats not the issue ... the issue it I thought you were wanting an argument and I was just going along with it13:17
maek0bazhang, no sorry I don't13:17
maek0ikonia, and I thought that arguing over something so trivial was harmless13:19
ikonianot the best move13:19
ikonianeither is miss-direction/fibs 13:19
Mezikonia: maek0 that issue is in the past. and has been dealt with, can we leave it be?13:19
ikoniayup13:19
maek0Mez, yep I was banned for 24 hours so I copped it on the chin .. now we can get on to the current issue13:20
Mezmaek0: the ban I see was 6 days :P13:20
maek0Mez, the ban that ikonia did ??13:20
Garybazhang: did you tell zloy that I needed to speak with him?13:21
Garyif so, do you know what about? :p13:21
bazhangGary, he was talking about password cracking and he and kukman were talking about #ubuntu-ru-women channel13:22
bazhangGary, then he was asking me if I knew Josef Stalin, and what I thought about his ideology13:22
Garyarghh :p13:23
Garyhe didn't harrass anyone though?13:23
bazhangthis was after I had reprimanded him for the password cracking talk (which he claimed not to understand was wrong)13:23
Mezmaek0: ok, I've read through logs, and I think I've come to a conclusion.13:23
maek0Mez, thanks for doing that13:23
MezYour behaviour before has been out of line. You have seemed very argumentative, and to be quite frank, I agree with the previous bans that have been made.13:24
Garybazhang: oki, it's just he said that you said that I wanted to talk to him, and I had no idea what about13:24
bazhangGary, I asked him if I should talk with you about this13:24
Mezmaek0: You have been given a chance to make things right, to act properly in our channels, and I think it's already been made clear to you that if you continue to act the way you have done, you'd be banned, permanently. Have you not?13:25
maek0Mez, well I am sorry if I have been argumentative .. I just assumed people were being argumentative to me13:26
maek0Mez,  can I explain this current situation please ??13:26
bazhangGary, the Russian operators have been apprised of his behaviour and are watching him closely, the caveat being that they are almost never around13:26
Mezmaek0: apology accepted, however, if you think that someone is being argumentative. just close the window and ignore them13:27
Mezmaek0: if ANYONE asks you to obey the rules, or tells you that you're going out of line, then you *listen* to them. 13:27
Mezmaek0: you don't need to argue back. The best argument is silence.13:28
Mezmaek0: I don't need an explanation.13:28
maek0Mez, sorry about that I guess that if someone seems argumentative Im tempted to argue back 13:28
maek0I am a relative IRC noob sorry13:29
Mezmaek0: all I can say is that you are being given ONE chance here. You need to prove yourself to us, or next time, the ban won't be lifted. You need to follow the guidelines13:29
Mez!guidelines | maek0 13:29
ubottumaek0: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:29
MezYou need to make sure that if we ever see your nick being reported to us again, it's for something good, not for something bad.13:29
maek0Mez, thanks .. just for the record .. tell me why I got banned for this current situation ??13:30
Mezmaek0: your history and13:30
Mez!wtf13:30
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.13:30
Mez!jfgi 13:31
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.13:31
Mezwtf is not acceptable. It is STILL cursing. but disguised.13:31
maek0well thats going to be tough because those words ingrained in my internet speech13:32
Mezmaek0: I'm making it clear now, and I want you to tell me if you don't understand. If there is reason to ban you again, the ban will be a permanent one.13:32
maek0I understand that13:32
Mezmaek0: as is standards, please go and read the Guidelines, and tell me if there's anything in them you don't understand13:33
maek0its just that I feel a bit cheated because I got highlighted and someone told me that I was running a root account and I was worried13:33
Mez!guidelines | maek0 13:33
ubottumaek0: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines13:33
maek0but I understand that "wt*" is not acceptable13:34
Mezmaek0: please read the guidelines.13:35
Mezactually read them through. Every single word13:35
maek0okay I will read them through13:35
Mezlet me know when you're done13:36
maek0I will say however that Jack_Sparrow needs to be careful on who he highlights ... if he was careful none of this would have happened13:37
maek0okay reading now13:37
Mezmaek0: he apologised. Leave it. 13:37
Jack_SparrowOk, want to start this all over AGAIN..13:37
Jack_SparrowI am ready13:37
maek0okay I accept Jack_Sparrow's apology13:38
Mezmaek0: you're not helping here. It's been dealt with. Leave it in the past.13:39
MezIt's this kind of thing that gets you into trouble. I know I'm already watching you and reconsidering my decision to lift the ban. 13:39
maek0Mez okay I will go now ... you all have a great day13:39
maek0back now13:41
Mezhey, you finished reading the guidelines yet?13:41
maek0I am up to here: When helping: be helpful13:41
Mezok, lemme know when done13:41
maek0what are talking scripts ??13:43
MezFor example13:44
Mez@schedule13:44
ubottuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 15 Dec 19:00: LoCo Council | 16 Dec 01:00: Forum Council | 16 Dec 11:00: Community Council | 16 Dec 16:00: Server Team | 16 Dec 17:00: Kernel Team | 17 Dec 16:00: Foundation Team13:44
Mezthat's a talking script (but it'd be on a user)13:44
Mezor, say, something that kept telling the channel what music you were playing when you changed track13:45
Mezor, something that would post a msg telling people you are away13:45
* Mez is away (gone)13:45
maek0ah okay ... I guess IRC has been around for a long time and people have worked out how to do funky things13:45
* Mez is back13:45
Mezstuff like that13:45
Mezmaek0: more annoying than funky13:46
Mez@bansearch maek0 13:46
ubottuMatch: *!*@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net by Jack_Sparrow in #ubuntu on Dec 15 2008 12:21:45 (ID: 7994)13:46
maek0okay I am done reading this and I will endeavour to keep that in mind before I post anything in #ubuntu 13:47
Mezok, your ban has been lifted, dont let me see you again. 13:47
Mez(in here)13:47
maek0actually does the ubuntu irc network have like a chit chat channel ??13:48
Mez#ubuntu-offtopic  but the same rules apply, except the "only support" one13:48
ubot5`Mez: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:48
* Mez has to go13:48
Mez@mark #ubuntu-ops maek0 13:49
maek0okay have a nice day and all that13:49
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* genii sips14:36
LjLsome mess here, i see?14:49
PiciThats what happens when someone accidentally reboot servers14:49
LjLPici: i guess, but, the floodbots went on being lagged and idiotic for a really long time... was it just due to that?14:50
PiciLjL: I'm not sure what that was about.14:52
ikoniaquicky - my connection just %100 died so I'm borrwing a friends machine to hop in here, but I'm %100 out of service at the moment15:09
ikoniaout15:09
geniiI guess yelling at his ISP on the phone didn't get them motivated....15:14
Mezhe came in here for a quicky ? ew15:30
ikoniawho did15:30
Jack_SparrowYew did15:31
ikoniaoh15:31
* Mez chuckles15:31
Ursinhahey guys..15:50
Ursinhawhat is the criteria to a person to become op in #ubuntu?15:50
Ursinhaasking to see how it works and if it would apply to another channel15:51
PiciUrsinha: Basically we select a contributing person from the main channels with no (recent) record of behavorial problems and invite them to become an op.  If they turn down the offer then we don't force them. Some people don't want to be ops.15:55
UrsinhaPici, it is pretty much what I thought it was15:55
PiciUrsinha: We usually give probationary access to operator priveleges and keep an eye on them for a bit.15:56
UrsinhaPici, naturally15:56
Ursinha:)15:56
naliothUrsinha: in some channels and some networks, asking automatically puts you out of any consideration15:58
Ursinhanalioth, well, I don't want to be an #ubuntu op, if you're suggesting that15:59
naliothi'm just sayin'15:59
Ursinha<Ursinha> asking to see how it works and if it would apply to another channel15:59
Ursinhanalioth, ^15:59
naliothwe don't do that here15:59
naliothyes, i can read15:59
Ursinhawe're having "issues" in another channel16:00
Ursinhaso I wanted to know how it works in other places16:00
PiciUrsinha: May I ask what channel? Or is it not Ubuntu/canonical related?16:00
UrsinhaPici, it's #ubuntu-br16:00
PiciUrsinha: Ah.16:00
UrsinhaPici, the "issues" are quoted because it's not exactly a problem16:01
Ursinhawe're just defining some rules16:01
Ursinhathat's all :)16:01
LjjjLso you want to learn how to do things properly16:01
LjjjLyou16:01
LjjjLyou've found some good teachers16:01
LjjjL</sarcasm>16:01
Ursinhahahaha16:01
Ursinhabasically we have a few that always complain about everything16:02
UrsinhaI know we all have16:02
Ursinhaso we want to write something down for it to be plain clear to everyone16:02
LjjjLlike guidelines?16:03
Ursinhaexactly16:03
Mez!guidelines16:04
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines16:04
Ursinhawe're aware of that, and we've translated from that page16:04
Ursinhawe just wanted to be clear about how it works in that channel16:05
LjjjLUrsinha: why aren't you on -irc? other international ops will easily have their own experiences with guidelines to share16:05
Ursinhathat have less people and so on16:05
LjjjLquite a few have "copied" from our guidelines too, but also had to make a set of adjustments16:05
LjjjLindeed, that's why i suggest asking/looking at other loco channels too16:06
Ursinhaawesome LjjjL :)16:06
Ursinhathat's my idea too, that's why I'm asking here :)16:06
Ursinhawhere the ops unite :P16:06
LjjjLUrsinha: but the loco operators are on #ubuntu-irc16:06
UrsinhaLjjjL, really? what's this channel?16:07
LjjjLUrsinha: what the topic says, mostly. check the IrcTeam/Coordination link16:07
LjjjLsome of the french ops are residents there16:07
LjjjLa few spanish ops too, some of the time16:07
ikoniasava ?16:07
ikoniado beer porvafor16:08
LjjjLvorpafor yeah16:08
ikoniados I meant16:08
ikoniaas in 216:08
Ursinhahahahahahaha16:08
ikoniados chinquos elephanti16:08
LjjjLikonia: ok, but it por favor not por vafor :P16:08
Ursinha:)16:09
ikoniadanke16:09
Ursinhasomeone invited me here saying that it's a good place to watch when things get crazy on some channels16:09
Ursinhathat's why I thought it was a QG for the ops16:10
Ursinhaof ubuntu* 16:10
LjjjLUrsinha: it's a QG only for the english channels (and only some of them, at that)16:10
Ursinharight.16:10
LjjjLloco channels usually have their own -xx-ops channels16:10
Ursinhathis time I'm referring to it was a problem on ubuntu-br channel16:10
LjjjLbut yeah here is where you can see us arguing with trolls16:10
Ursinhaand other channels too16:11
Ursinhathanks LjjjL 16:12
ikoniaor amongst ourselves16:12
LjjjLikonia: what the hell are you talking about, that never happens16:12
LjjjLikonia: you're crazy, or a troll16:12
ikoniaboth  ?16:13
LjjjLyes, i was about to say16:13
Pici!test18:36
ubottusigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.18:36
Ursinhalol18:39
* genii sips18:54
geniiDamn. Pici is omnipresent in my channel list19:30
* genii prepares for a cataclysmic announcement of some sort19:55
Ursinhalol19:59
PriceChildgenii: hmm?20:00
UrsinhaPriceChild, I guess genii was referring to tomaw_ 20:06
PriceChildgenii: do we scare you? :P20:07
geniiPriceChild: Just the disconnects which seem to follow tomaw's announcements....20:08
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ubottuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !rodserling is the insane one22:49
Tm_Terrr22:59
genii@logout23:05
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geniiWondering if anyone sees me, I authed with freenode and did @login but looks like I may still be devoiced according to the statusbar of my client23:14
Tm_Tyes23:14
Tm_TI'm out ->23:14
geniiOK, thanks23:14
* genii makes a note to file a quassel bug23:14
LjLjust one?23:15
geniiHehe23:15
geniiLjL: Well, it's a work-in-progress23:16
Mezgenii: /cycle23:16
LjLgenii: may i quickly do something that your client might not entirely like?23:16
geniiMez: OK I'll try23:16
geniiMez: Nah still same23:16
Mez(aka part the channel, then rejoin)23:17
geniiLjL: Will I have a possible cataclysm?23:17
LjLgenii: hmhm23:17
geniiHangon /part /join cycle23:17
geniiMez: Nah didn't change23:18
Mezyeah, chanserv isnt recognising you23:18
geniiBut oddly I'm authed, cloak works, @login works, etc23:18
LjLwhat's the problem, out of curiosity?23:18
Mezgenii: you dont have access to be autovoiced in here23:19
MezLjL: he seems to have lost his +v in here23:19
geniiMez: Maybe thats it23:19
LjLhe's never had it afaik23:19
geniiLjL: OK, now it shows properly in the status area23:20
MezLjL: maybe it was set manually on him :D#23:22
Mezand it went when he /quit23:22
ikoniahas anyone got a cool way of searching #ubuntu logs ?23:26
Mezgrep -R word ~/irclogs/\#ubuntu23:27
naliothikonia: gogole does a fine job23:27
naliothikonia: and google, too23:27
ikoniaI've just had a random note from a user called stefodnb saying about a comment he made to me in pm (I think he made it in the channel) that says "randon morons blubber"23:27
ikoniahowever it's just appeared on this site/url http://209.85.135.132/search?q=cache:_6bX-kQfoqwJ:www.novamind.com/media/az/job-interview.html+"random+morons+blubber"&hl=bg&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=bg&client=firefox-a23:27
ikoniahe's moaning/accusing me of blabbing about it, not that I care to be fair, however I've not mentioned this comment, but I am interested what this site is and how it's logging parts of the ubuntu channel23:28
ikoniaI'm pretty sure he said it in the channel23:28
Mezthat site seems like a blog to me ikonia 23:29
ikoniaMez: well yes, but it seems to be blogging parts of the ubuntu channel23:29
Mezoh, yeah23:29
phixLjL: I am still banned, what's up?23:29
LjLphix: the ceiling23:29
LjLphix: you asked if i was around yesterday, then said nothing further23:30
MezLjL: aeroplanes....23:30
phixLjL: poor you, stuck in an office23:30
LjLuhm, no23:30
phixLjL: or house :)23:30
LjLi'm at home23:30
phixeither way it's a great day today23:30
phixshame to be indoors23:31
LjLnot sure, it's been raining for three days and it's not stopping.23:31
phixany way, the ban, what's going on there?23:31
LjLit's also half past midnight.23:31
LjLphix: nothing.23:31
LjLphix: i suppose you've read the guidelines, coc and the rest of the !etiquette factoids quite carefully by now?23:31
phixoh, hehe, that's right, you live in the EU somewhere23:31
Mez23:37 <+LjL> it's also half past midnight.23:32
phixLjL: well no, I have been banned :)23:32
Mezand in new zealand, it was l33t o clock23:32
phixI can't access the factoids 23:32
LjLphix: wait, what?23:32
Mez!guidelines | phix23:32
ubottuphix: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:32
LjLyou've been banned so you can't access the factoids? that makes no sense23:32
Mez!coc | phix23:32
ubottuphix: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/23:32
Mez!ettiquette | phix23:32
ubottuphix: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...23:32
LjLdon't tell me i forgot to point you to !etiquette when we first met here?23:32
phixLjL: ah, oh those ones, yes I Have skimmed over them23:32
LjLphix: come back when you've *read* them and *understood* them then23:33
Mezphix: you need to read every word ;)23:33
phixLjL: done23:33
LjLphix: no, you just said skimmed23:33
phixLjL: yeah I get the idea :) I understand23:33
LjLsorry genii, i hit enter by mistake :>23:33
phixthe message came across quite fine, to sum it up, don't be a dick23:34
LjLphix: i don't want you to "get the idea", i want you to READ them CAREFULLY23:34
phixI get it23:34
geniiLjL: That was .... odd23:34
LjLit's the least i could ask of you after you gratuitously spammed the channel, so please do23:34
phixok23:34
phixok ircGuildlines was an easy read23:36
Mezphix: I just started reading them again, and i'm not even half way through23:36
LjLphix: ok, so, when you send a message to the channel to inform them that you're away, what should the message format be?23:36
Mezand I can speedread professionally23:36
phixLjL: In short, don't23:37
LjLalright, trick question one passed23:37
phix:)23:37
phixanything else?23:38
Mezphix: what's a pastebin ?23:38
phixMez: a website 23:38
LjLphix: yes. when you disagree with an op, how should you inform them of it?23:38
phixMez: to paste large amounts of text23:38
phixLjL: in a polite manner of corse otherwise they kick and ban you :)23:39
LjLalso, not in the main channel23:39
LjLbut you didn't answer "i shouldn't disagree with him" at least, so i guess that's good23:39
phixLjL: well, you cant really prv msg them, that is also rude :)23:39
phixLjL: well no, the ops are not prophets :)23:40
Mezphix: you can always /msg us ;)23:40
phixMez: really? I thought ops hate that23:40
LjLphix: not really, the ops can be messaged fine if it's about op business23:40
phixah ok, so if I want to know how you are going I shouldn't message you?23:40
LjLphix: i hate it if you message me out of the blue with nothing that has anything to do with me or ops business23:40
LjLphix: i'd appreciate that, yes, thanks23:41
Mezphix: some do, but we tend to lean towards the "if you need an op, we dont mind you msging us, but business only please ;)"23:41
phixok23:41
phixtoo easy23:41
LjLphix: your ban is lifted, have fun, and if by any chance you didn't actually finish reading the stuff yet, do23:42
phixdone and done23:42
Mezpop quiz on Friday? :P23:42
phixwoot23:42
Mezwait... darn, not a pop quiz anymore ;)23:42
phixalthough Friday it will be saturday for me, I will be well on holidays :P23:42
phixok I will get out of this chan now23:43
LjLphix: wait23:43
phixThank you for lifting the ban23:43
phixok23:43
LjLphix: what in the guidelines suggested that it was a good idea to make the main channel scroll by randomly typing smileys into it?23:43
phixhaha, they wernt random, they were specific and directed to you23:44
LjLphix: and irrelevant to ubuntu support23:44
phixlol, I supose so, should I go in offtopic and paste that instead?23:44
LjLno.23:44
phixok23:44
phixnoted23:45
LjLphix: ok, now you can get out of here i guess, unless you're just about to do something else silly in #ubuntu23:46
phixLjL: I am offering help to some person regarding GLX not enabled in X23:47
LjLthat's quite legitimate, seems like a good start in the right direction.23:47
phixso, yes I have no other need to be in this channel, fair well.23:47
LjLbye23:47
* LjL hopes the same23:48
LjL@mark phix23:48
ubottuThe operation succeeded.23:48
geniiThat seemed to go relatively painlessly...23:51
Jack_SparrowAnyone have issue with this nick..  * holyshit (n=holyshit@35-38.asparuhovo.net) has joined #ubuntu23:52
ikoniayes23:53
ikoniahave you messaged him ?23:53
Jack_Sparrowk.. I'll politely ask them to change it23:53
Jack_SparrowIf you have the time great..23:54
ikoniaI'll do it23:54
Jack_SparrowI am up to ^^^ with windows problems today23:54
Jack_Sparrowthanks23:54
ikoniadone23:54
ikoniawhat's he doing here ?23:57
ikoniaI didn't forward him23:57
ikoniahe just said he'd quit23:57
Piciauto forwarding of bad idents23:57
ikoniaah23:57
ikoniahow did he get in #ubuntu in the first place then23:57
naliothikonia: he did not23:58
ikoniadidn't he, my mistake23:58
ikonia23:52 -!- holyshit [n=holyshit@35-38.asparuhovo.net] has joined #ubuntu23:58
ikonia23:56 -!- holyshit [n=holyshit@35-38.asparuhovo.net] has quit ["Connection  reset by peer"]23:58
ikonialooked like he got in 23:58

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