=== LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [00:59] LjL: You in? [00:59] phix: yes [01:01] chfwiggum, did you have something else we could help you with? [01:07] chfwiggum, please note the channel /topic and do not idle here. [01:16] !idle | chfwiggum [01:16] chfwiggum: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [01:34] 'ello [01:34] sloopy: It's not your place to threaten our users [01:35] flannel, no i am not thretening a random user, i am threatening my son, unfortunatly i would do it in msg but he doesnt understand them [01:36] unfortunatly he has issues and since i am not at home would only mock me [01:36] my apologizes for bringing 'family' matter into the channel [01:37] sloopy: I already mentioned the language issue to him, and if he continued, we simply would ban him. But public humiliation generally isn't a good way to go about influencing behavior changes like that. [01:37] sloopy: I don't mean to tell you how to parent, of course [01:37] thats just it, he doesnt understand it is 'public' [01:38] but we are capable of disciplining ourselves (and did). To everyone else it's just someone picking on someone else, and we don't condone that, obviously. [01:38] Flannel, and yes i understand you werent questing my parenting, but my actions in a public place [01:40] heh mrs just called me... [01:45] sloopy: You're both in -offtopic, that might be a better location [01:46] chfwiggum, please dont idle here [01:47] wow. he was in here since he got banned yesterday for the !danger command [01:49] Flannel, i just had mrs give the msg in person... [01:55] sloopy, please dont idle in here [01:56] sorry i am at work and wasnt paying attention... [02:01] phix, please dont idle here [02:05] !idle | phix [02:05] phix: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [02:11] phix, please read the channel topic and do not idle here. [02:40] TraceRoute in -ot may need a looking at [02:44] hello [02:44] LjL: awesome you are here [02:44] LjL: well I am still banned [02:44] I will leave here now [02:44] What an odd fellow. [04:07] how do you close a bug in launchpad? [04:08] nalioth: drop down the status thingie? [04:08] * Flannel holds off on the regular comments. [04:08] jdong: i get no dropdown with the status thingy [04:08] really? [04:09] when you click the link in the Status column, nothing drops open? [04:10] nope [04:10] but i clicked on something an invalidated the report [04:10] does appending /+editstatus to the bug URL do anything? [04:11] i clicked on "undecided" and thought i changed it to "invalid", but it seems i just added "invalid" to the options [04:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/308059 you can close it, if you wish [04:12] Launchpad bug 308059 in ubuntu "weard logs in dmesg involveing i think fsb" [Undecided,New] [04:12] Launchpad bug 308059 in ubuntu "weard logs in dmesg involveing i think fsb" [Undecided,New] [04:12] holy cow [04:12] haha [04:12] looks like you closed the bug correctly [04:12] you don't get the status dropdown when you click Invalid? [04:13] nope [04:13] weirdness [04:13] heh launchpad being quirky... there's a surprise :) [07:22] In #ubuntu-bugs, zzxxzz said: ubottu is correct, the files are in the new location, but the icon is not changing from empty, nor giving an indication there is something in the trash. [08:57] o hai [08:57] Howdy Myrtti [09:16] why did floodbot just unmute me, it didn't actually mute me to need to unmute me [09:17] there is no +z only a -z and it's accused me of flooding in the monitor for 1 line ? [09:17] ikonia: Because you were flooding [09:17] Theyre freaking otu at the moment [09:17] where is the +z though ? [09:17] I can't see it [09:17] theyre freaking out, so they don't +z [09:18] but it did -z me ? [09:18] yes === achileas is now known as monster === monster is now known as thrylos [09:51] @login [09:51] The operation succeeded. [09:51] @btlogin [09:54] rww called the ops in #ubuntu (ritow_) [10:08] thrylos, yes, you are banned [10:09] thrylos, no, changing nicknames wont help [10:09] i don't a give a shit [10:09] then what are you doing here then? [10:10] i am fucking your mother [10:10] Myrtti: Hes forwarded here. Sounds like its time to remove said forward. [10:10] ahhh sken again [10:10] Flannel, I'd think so too [10:12] Flannel: please don't remove the forward [10:12] ikonia: Why not? [10:12] thats his default IP and he has to work had to change it [10:12] it catches him a lot [10:13] got it [10:13] ta [11:07] Hi all [11:49] idiot [11:49] help please [11:50] never mind, false alarm [11:51] I've removed a few old bans mostly ljl's (over 1.5 month) that are %100 dynamic addresses, I'll continue doing some house keeping later of bans that are 1 month + old AND have no comments AND are dynamic addresses unless someone has an objection or wants to clear there own stuff up [12:21] * [maek0] (n=maek@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net): Maek [12:21] QED [12:21] morning bazhang [12:22] Jack_Sparrow, nice eye [12:22] ikonia, ^^ [12:24] maek is a repeat offender right, when was his last ban lifted? [12:27] bazhang maek is a repeat offender right, when was his last ban lifted? [12:29] Jack_Sparrow, yes, nice catch. [12:29] @btlogin [12:30] he was claiming that maek and maek0 were different people [12:30] ie it wasnt him [12:30] Ok.. [12:30] thought so [12:30] still banned afaik [12:30] just wanted to point it out to ikonia that we found out the two were in fact one and the same [12:31] ah.. ty [12:31] though just adding '0' to the back of your nick is not the most creative of ban evasion [12:31] 4am something here, not quite awake [12:31] :) [12:34] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood) [12:47] Is anyone about to help me .. I have been banned incorrectly [12:48] bazhang Would ou care to take this for me. [12:55] @btlogin [12:56] @bansearch maek0 [12:56] Match: *!*@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net by Jack_Sparrow in #ubuntu on Dec 15 2008 12:21:45 (ID: 7994) [12:56] yes hello Mez [12:58] maek0: one sec, researching [12:58] I was browsing the web on on side of my cube when I noticed that my xchat logo was blinking ... I went to have a look who was highlighting me .. and Jack_Sparrow said that I was running as root and it sounded like I was doing something very wrong [12:59] Mez http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/13/%23ubuntu-ops.txt [13:00] it didn't occur to me that I had the Guest nick on and I thought It was very strange someone to highlight me out of the blue .. so then I thought I was doing something terribly wrong because someone specifically highlighted me [13:01] maek0: one sec, researching [13:01] @bansearch maek [13:01] No matches found for maek!enforcer@services. in any channel [13:01] Mez, cool [13:06] ikonia: ping [13:06] bazhang: ping [13:08] maek0: what nick were you using when "someone kicked you for helping" ? [13:09] Mez, I think it was just plain "maek" [13:09] without the 0 [13:09] Mez, hi [13:10] bazhang: PM [13:10] maek0: not bracksisahobo [13:10] ? [13:10] Mez, no I am on an ISP which assigns dynamic IPs [13:10] maek0: actually, no, that was someone in perth, not melbourne.. Sorry [13:11] Mez: pong [13:11] ikonia PM [13:11] yup [13:12] but I was kicked and banned for helping someone with their Compiz settings ... the op totally ignored that I made a mistake by copy and pasting a little compiz how to I found [13:13] which resulted in multiple lines [13:13] the OP didn't care to look that I was copying and pasting a how to on Compiz [13:14] maek0: that's the past. Ignore it for now. It's been dealt with already - I'm just trying to find logs [13:14] maek0, so you and maek have no connection whatsoever? [13:15] the next ban was well my mistake .. by posting a ubuntu bug report that I found very funny because it reminded me of a old screensaver exploit in Windows 2000 [13:15] maek0: ok, ok, I can't find any records of these bans apart from one last week... [13:15] thank you for admiting that (geuinly) much better than "I'm alerting ubuntu people to security alerts" rubbish [13:16] maek0: being straight with people gets you a lot futher with people [13:16] bazhang, well I used to be "maek" but it was taken by someone else cause they registered it now its maek0 [13:17] maek0, you got the pm from me yesterday? [13:17] ikonia, thats not the issue ... the issue it I thought you were wanting an argument and I was just going along with it [13:17] bazhang, no sorry I don't [13:19] ikonia, and I thought that arguing over something so trivial was harmless [13:19] not the best move [13:19] neither is miss-direction/fibs [13:19] ikonia: maek0 that issue is in the past. and has been dealt with, can we leave it be? [13:19] yup [13:20] Mez, yep I was banned for 24 hours so I copped it on the chin .. now we can get on to the current issue [13:20] maek0: the ban I see was 6 days :P [13:20] Mez, the ban that ikonia did ?? [13:21] bazhang: did you tell zloy that I needed to speak with him? [13:21] if so, do you know what about? :p [13:22] Gary, he was talking about password cracking and he and kukman were talking about #ubuntu-ru-women channel [13:22] Gary, then he was asking me if I knew Josef Stalin, and what I thought about his ideology [13:23] arghh :p [13:23] he didn't harrass anyone though? [13:23] this was after I had reprimanded him for the password cracking talk (which he claimed not to understand was wrong) [13:23] maek0: ok, I've read through logs, and I think I've come to a conclusion. [13:23] Mez, thanks for doing that [13:24] Your behaviour before has been out of line. You have seemed very argumentative, and to be quite frank, I agree with the previous bans that have been made. [13:24] bazhang: oki, it's just he said that you said that I wanted to talk to him, and I had no idea what about [13:24] Gary, I asked him if I should talk with you about this [13:25] maek0: You have been given a chance to make things right, to act properly in our channels, and I think it's already been made clear to you that if you continue to act the way you have done, you'd be banned, permanently. Have you not? [13:26] Mez, well I am sorry if I have been argumentative .. I just assumed people were being argumentative to me [13:26] Mez, can I explain this current situation please ?? [13:26] Gary, the Russian operators have been apprised of his behaviour and are watching him closely, the caveat being that they are almost never around [13:27] maek0: apology accepted, however, if you think that someone is being argumentative. just close the window and ignore them [13:27] maek0: if ANYONE asks you to obey the rules, or tells you that you're going out of line, then you *listen* to them. [13:28] maek0: you don't need to argue back. The best argument is silence. [13:28] maek0: I don't need an explanation. [13:28] Mez, sorry about that I guess that if someone seems argumentative Im tempted to argue back [13:29] I am a relative IRC noob sorry [13:29] maek0: all I can say is that you are being given ONE chance here. You need to prove yourself to us, or next time, the ban won't be lifted. You need to follow the guidelines [13:29] !guidelines | maek0 [13:29] maek0: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [13:29] You need to make sure that if we ever see your nick being reported to us again, it's for something good, not for something bad. [13:30] Mez, thanks .. just for the record .. tell me why I got banned for this current situation ?? [13:30] maek0: your history and [13:30] !wtf [13:30] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [13:31] !jfgi [13:31] Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. [13:31] wtf is not acceptable. It is STILL cursing. but disguised. [13:32] well thats going to be tough because those words ingrained in my internet speech [13:32] maek0: I'm making it clear now, and I want you to tell me if you don't understand. If there is reason to ban you again, the ban will be a permanent one. [13:32] I understand that [13:33] maek0: as is standards, please go and read the Guidelines, and tell me if there's anything in them you don't understand [13:33] its just that I feel a bit cheated because I got highlighted and someone told me that I was running a root account and I was worried [13:33] !guidelines | maek0 [13:33] maek0: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [13:34] but I understand that "wt*" is not acceptable [13:35] maek0: please read the guidelines. [13:35] actually read them through. Every single word [13:35] okay I will read them through [13:36] let me know when you're done [13:37] I will say however that Jack_Sparrow needs to be careful on who he highlights ... if he was careful none of this would have happened [13:37] okay reading now [13:37] maek0: he apologised. Leave it. [13:37] Ok, want to start this all over AGAIN.. [13:37] I am ready [13:38] okay I accept Jack_Sparrow's apology [13:39] maek0: you're not helping here. It's been dealt with. Leave it in the past. [13:39] It's this kind of thing that gets you into trouble. I know I'm already watching you and reconsidering my decision to lift the ban. [13:39] Mez okay I will go now ... you all have a great day [13:41] back now [13:41] hey, you finished reading the guidelines yet? [13:41] I am up to here: When helping: be helpful [13:41] ok, lemme know when done [13:43] what are talking scripts ?? [13:44] For example [13:44] @schedule [13:44] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 15 Dec 19:00: LoCo Council | 16 Dec 01:00: Forum Council | 16 Dec 11:00: Community Council | 16 Dec 16:00: Server Team | 16 Dec 17:00: Kernel Team | 17 Dec 16:00: Foundation Team [13:44] that's a talking script (but it'd be on a user) [13:45] or, say, something that kept telling the channel what music you were playing when you changed track [13:45] or, something that would post a msg telling people you are away [13:45] * Mez is away (gone) [13:45] ah okay ... I guess IRC has been around for a long time and people have worked out how to do funky things [13:45] * Mez is back [13:45] stuff like that [13:46] maek0: more annoying than funky [13:46] @bansearch maek0 [13:46] Match: *!*@ppp118-208-242-236.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net by Jack_Sparrow in #ubuntu on Dec 15 2008 12:21:45 (ID: 7994) [13:47] okay I am done reading this and I will endeavour to keep that in mind before I post anything in #ubuntu [13:47] ok, your ban has been lifted, dont let me see you again. [13:47] (in here) [13:48] actually does the ubuntu irc network have like a chit chat channel ?? [13:48] #ubuntu-offtopic but the same rules apply, except the "only support" one [13:48] Mez: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:48] * Mez has to go [13:49] @mark #ubuntu-ops maek0 [13:49] okay have a nice day and all that [13:49] The operation succeeded. [14:36] * genii sips [14:49] some mess here, i see? [14:49] Thats what happens when someone accidentally reboot servers [14:50] Pici: i guess, but, the floodbots went on being lagged and idiotic for a really long time... was it just due to that? [14:52] LjL: I'm not sure what that was about. [15:09] quicky - my connection just %100 died so I'm borrwing a friends machine to hop in here, but I'm %100 out of service at the moment [15:09] out [15:14] I guess yelling at his ISP on the phone didn't get them motivated.... [15:30] he came in here for a quicky ? ew [15:30] who did [15:31] Yew did [15:31] oh [15:31] * Mez chuckles [15:50] hey guys.. [15:50] what is the criteria to a person to become op in #ubuntu? [15:51] asking to see how it works and if it would apply to another channel [15:55] Ursinha: Basically we select a contributing person from the main channels with no (recent) record of behavorial problems and invite them to become an op. If they turn down the offer then we don't force them. Some people don't want to be ops. [15:55] Pici, it is pretty much what I thought it was [15:56] Ursinha: We usually give probationary access to operator priveleges and keep an eye on them for a bit. [15:56] Pici, naturally [15:56] :) [15:58] Ursinha: in some channels and some networks, asking automatically puts you out of any consideration [15:59] nalioth, well, I don't want to be an #ubuntu op, if you're suggesting that [15:59] i'm just sayin' [15:59] asking to see how it works and if it would apply to another channel [15:59] nalioth, ^ [15:59] we don't do that here [15:59] yes, i can read [16:00] we're having "issues" in another channel [16:00] so I wanted to know how it works in other places [16:00] Ursinha: May I ask what channel? Or is it not Ubuntu/canonical related? [16:00] Pici, it's #ubuntu-br [16:00] Ursinha: Ah. [16:01] Pici, the "issues" are quoted because it's not exactly a problem [16:01] we're just defining some rules [16:01] that's all :) [16:01] so you want to learn how to do things properly [16:01] you [16:01] you've found some good teachers [16:01] [16:01] hahaha [16:02] basically we have a few that always complain about everything [16:02] I know we all have [16:02] so we want to write something down for it to be plain clear to everyone [16:03] like guidelines? [16:03] exactly [16:04] !guidelines [16:04] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [16:04] we're aware of that, and we've translated from that page [16:05] we just wanted to be clear about how it works in that channel [16:05] Ursinha: why aren't you on -irc? other international ops will easily have their own experiences with guidelines to share [16:05] that have less people and so on [16:05] quite a few have "copied" from our guidelines too, but also had to make a set of adjustments [16:06] indeed, that's why i suggest asking/looking at other loco channels too [16:06] awesome LjjjL :) [16:06] that's my idea too, that's why I'm asking here :) [16:06] where the ops unite :P [16:06] Ursinha: but the loco operators are on #ubuntu-irc [16:07] LjjjL, really? what's this channel? [16:07] Ursinha: what the topic says, mostly. check the IrcTeam/Coordination link [16:07] some of the french ops are residents there [16:07] a few spanish ops too, some of the time [16:07] sava ? [16:08] do beer porvafor [16:08] vorpafor yeah [16:08] dos I meant [16:08] as in 2 [16:08] hahahahahaha [16:08] dos chinquos elephanti [16:08] ikonia: ok, but it por favor not por vafor :P [16:09] :) [16:09] danke [16:09] someone invited me here saying that it's a good place to watch when things get crazy on some channels [16:10] that's why I thought it was a QG for the ops [16:10] of ubuntu* [16:10] Ursinha: it's a QG only for the english channels (and only some of them, at that) [16:10] right. [16:10] loco channels usually have their own -xx-ops channels [16:10] this time I'm referring to it was a problem on ubuntu-br channel [16:10] but yeah here is where you can see us arguing with trolls [16:11] and other channels too [16:12] thanks LjjjL [16:12] or amongst ourselves [16:12] ikonia: what the hell are you talking about, that never happens [16:12] ikonia: you're crazy, or a troll [16:13] both ? [16:13] yes, i was about to say [18:36] !test [18:36] sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed. [18:39] lol [18:54] * genii sips [19:30] Damn. Pici is omnipresent in my channel list [19:55] * genii prepares for a cataclysmic announcement of some sort [19:59] lol [20:00] genii: hmm? [20:06] PriceChild, I guess genii was referring to tomaw_ [20:07] genii: do we scare you? :P [20:08] PriceChild: Just the disconnects which seem to follow tomaw's announcements.... === tomaw_ is now known as t|test [22:49] In #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !rodserling is the insane one [22:59] errr [23:05] @logout [23:05] @login [23:05] The operation succeeded. [23:14] Wondering if anyone sees me, I authed with freenode and did @login but looks like I may still be devoiced according to the statusbar of my client [23:14] yes [23:14] I'm out -> [23:14] OK, thanks [23:14] * genii makes a note to file a quassel bug [23:15] just one? [23:15] Hehe [23:16] LjL: Well, it's a work-in-progress [23:16] genii: /cycle [23:16] genii: may i quickly do something that your client might not entirely like? [23:16] Mez: OK I'll try [23:16] Mez: Nah still same [23:17] (aka part the channel, then rejoin) [23:17] LjL: Will I have a possible cataclysm? [23:17] genii: hmhm [23:17] Hangon /part /join cycle [23:18] Mez: Nah didn't change [23:18] yeah, chanserv isnt recognising you [23:18] But oddly I'm authed, cloak works, @login works, etc [23:18] what's the problem, out of curiosity? [23:19] genii: you dont have access to be autovoiced in here [23:19] LjL: he seems to have lost his +v in here [23:19] Mez: Maybe thats it [23:19] he's never had it afaik [23:20] LjL: OK, now it shows properly in the status area [23:22] LjL: maybe it was set manually on him :D# [23:22] and it went when he /quit [23:26] has anyone got a cool way of searching #ubuntu logs ? [23:27] grep -R word ~/irclogs/\#ubuntu [23:27] ikonia: gogole does a fine job [23:27] ikonia: and google, too [23:27] I've just had a random note from a user called stefodnb saying about a comment he made to me in pm (I think he made it in the channel) that says "randon morons blubber" [23:27] however it's just appeared on this site/url http://209.85.135.132/search?q=cache:_6bX-kQfoqwJ:www.novamind.com/media/az/job-interview.html+"random+morons+blubber"&hl=bg&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=bg&client=firefox-a [23:28] he's moaning/accusing me of blabbing about it, not that I care to be fair, however I've not mentioned this comment, but I am interested what this site is and how it's logging parts of the ubuntu channel [23:28] I'm pretty sure he said it in the channel [23:29] that site seems like a blog to me ikonia [23:29] Mez: well yes, but it seems to be blogging parts of the ubuntu channel [23:29] oh, yeah [23:29] LjL: I am still banned, what's up? [23:29] phix: the ceiling [23:30] phix: you asked if i was around yesterday, then said nothing further [23:30] LjL: aeroplanes.... [23:30] LjL: poor you, stuck in an office [23:30] uhm, no [23:30] LjL: or house :) [23:30] i'm at home [23:30] either way it's a great day today [23:31] shame to be indoors [23:31] not sure, it's been raining for three days and it's not stopping. [23:31] any way, the ban, what's going on there? [23:31] it's also half past midnight. [23:31] phix: nothing. [23:31] phix: i suppose you've read the guidelines, coc and the rest of the !etiquette factoids quite carefully by now? [23:31] oh, hehe, that's right, you live in the EU somewhere [23:32] 23:37 <+LjL> it's also half past midnight. [23:32] LjL: well no, I have been banned :) [23:32] and in new zealand, it was l33t o clock [23:32] I can't access the factoids [23:32] phix: wait, what? [23:32] !guidelines | phix [23:32] phix: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [23:32] you've been banned so you can't access the factoids? that makes no sense [23:32] !coc | phix [23:32] phix: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [23:32] !ettiquette | phix [23:32] phix: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu