[00:00] <Mike_ss> ActionParsnip: haha, canned messages. I have it installed or i wouldn't know it wasn't showing the option :)
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Mike_ss: oh loads :)
[00:00] <dr_willis> trollboy,  it might be easier to just ssh in and run whatever apps you need. and have them appear locally via xming if using windows.. or normal X if using linux
[00:00] <nspyr> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:00] <ultratek> huxley: is this the only to transfer files... i cant just open home folder the go to network to see his machine?
[00:00] <zsquareplusc> trollboy: if its headless, a vncserver is more efficient than sharing the desktop. however to reach them through NAT you have to haev some sort of port forwaring. i'd probably forward a single port to a serevr running ssh. from there you can jump to the other boxes
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> Mike_ss: ive not resized partitions, maybe someone else has though
[00:00] <dr_willis> trollboy,  vnc can be sluggish.. and is not really that super secure.. of course yOu could sshtunnle it
[00:00] <trollboy> dr_willis, I completely agree, but this is a windows user running this box
[00:00] <gasmask> ahh... I think you may have a point there.
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: have you heard of Ghost Unix? aka  g4u
[00:01] <trollboy> dr_willis, he needs clickable buttons
[00:01] <trollboy> onetinsoldier, googling
[00:01] <dr_willis> trollboy,  xming for windows does wonders. :) i have my X apps show up on the windows machine.  its doable.
[00:01] <RichardWolfVI> Hello, I've been trying to use QGtkStyle, but I don't know what to do after I install it
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: you could use x forwarding over ssh
[00:01] <ultratek> huxl3y: i think we have static ips... i noticed they are always the same ips when i look at my firewall from windows
[00:01] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: ok.. roger. it might be something you're looking for
[00:01] <zsquareplusc> dr_willis: heh, in my experience X often slower than vnc. esp. over the internet. ;-)
[00:02] <trollboy> dr_willis and ActionParsnip I'm looking for an easy non "unix-scary" solution
[00:02] <trollboy> I'm dealing with a luddite here
[00:02] <dr_willis> zsquareplusc,  i find vnc works MUCH better once i set up a uber-minimal window manager
[00:02] <RichardWolfVI> after running qtconfig, I don't see the style anywhere
[00:02] <trollboy> personally I'd do everything easier via ssh and no gui
[00:02] <trollboy> but that's me, not him
[00:02]  * dr_willis wonders why a luddite needs this stuff in the first place... but ive not been paying much attention
[00:02] <trollboy> dr_willis, long story
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: its not scary once setup
[00:02] <trollboy> the idea is 0 setup
[00:02] <dr_willis> with xming, you run the connectwizard the first time.. and set up what app you wan tit to run.. and save the settings.. then ya got an icon that connects.runs the app..
[00:02] <trollboy> put the disk in, walk away
[00:02] <Mike_ss> exit
[00:03] <Mike_ss> doh, haha
[00:03] <sabina> constanta
[00:03] <Tom__> ActionParsnip: You know what, I think I got it. I had Wordpress installed and the default location of it was at an IP address that it no longer had. I dropped the DB and started fresh and all is well
[00:03] <gasmask> zsquareplusc: oops, didn't write to you, I'll try and re install it clean on both ends, thanks for the help, have to go eat...
[00:03] <zsquareplusc> dr_willis: connectwizzard is that an xming thing?
[00:03] <dr_willis> figureng out how to do a ssh tunnle from windows to the linux box.. is the scary part for me. :)
[00:03] <trollboy> onetinsoldier, that is perfect
[00:03] <dr_willis> zsquareplusc,  yes.. Xming is a X server for windows. It has a wizard that walks ya through the process of connecing to a linux box and running whatever app ya want.
[00:03] <trollboy> thank you so very much
[00:04] <Bryan> I had to install a x86 version of skype for a x86-64 version of Ubuntu. Is there any reason that it will only connect if I run it as root?
[00:04] <onetinsoldier> trollboy: :-)
[00:04] <trollboy> now just have to get a easy VNC solution and I'm set
[00:04] <dr_willis> I tend to use Ultravnc for windows
[00:04] <DarkKnight> hey i have a sever edition of ubuntu...does it contain all packages
[00:04] <zsquareplusc> dr_willis: putty on the windows side works verry well, even with X forwading and together with xming :-)
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> Tom__: sweet
[00:04] <trollboy> dr_willis, he's not a *true* luddite, but rather a non-windows luddite.  He's got windows, and it works, but he's pissed that now he's only got the custom software and needs to pay for changes.
[00:04] <dr_willis> zsquareplusc,  you can set it up where putty works with xming  yes... did that the other day:)
[00:05] <trollboy> I'm wanting to reproduce everything he's got now, for free
[00:05] <DarkKnight> hey i have a sever edition of ubuntu...does it contain all packages
[00:05] <sabina> vreau sa intru pe constanta...cum fac??
[00:05] <RichardWolfVI> nevermind, sorted it out
[00:05] <trollboy> here's almost the exact same functionality, but with linux. You got the code.  Its free. enjoy
[00:05] <rathel> magnetron, Nope still not working.
[00:05] <trollboy> DarkKnight, all the packages should be available for you
[00:05] <DarkKnight> hey i have a sever edition of ubuntu...does it contain all packages
[00:05] <dr_willis> If one is doing linux to linux remote desktops. Isent FreeNX a better choice then vnc.
[00:05] <rustybox> trying to set up my xbox controller... dmesg reveals that it's being recognized as an xbox controller but only the joystick works... any advice? It works fine in windows
[00:06] <KinKing> could anyone tell me how to redirect a set of IP+PORT to another IP+PORT with, say, iptables?
[00:06] <berkough> is there any way to stop the ubuntu x-chat from logging directly into this channel and server every time it's launched?
[00:06] <trollboy> DarkKnight,  they're just not installed by default, case in point an mp3 player might be on the desktop version, but isn't installed by default on the server version
[00:06] <DasEi> ﻿DarkKnight: packages are located in the repos
[00:06] <DarkKnight> trollboy; i got this doubt only because the desktop cd contains only packages essential for the working of ubuntu...remianing all has to be downloaded
[00:07] <trollboy> DarkKnight, exactly
[00:07] <ceil420> what program do i use to combine movie.cd1.avi and movie.cd2.avi and come out with one movie.avi?
[00:07] <dr_willis> berkough,  check the xchat settings/server swttings.. its in there. Yoyu may want to use the normal xchat, instead of xchat-gnome also
[00:07] <trollboy> the default packages are installed, which isn't everything.
[00:07] <DasEi> !repos | DarkKnight
[00:07] <trollboy> DarkKnight, No version comes with EVERYTHING installed
[00:07] <berkough> ah ok, thanks dr_willis
[00:07] <RITN> how do i open a nfs location
[00:07] <dr_willis> ceil420,  depends on the codecs  also.. but it should be doable with ffmpeg, mencoder, or perhaps even 'cat foo.avi foo2.avi > bigmovie.avi'
[00:08] <trollboy> DarkKnight, My desktop install here doesn't have the Farsii language packages installed for example.  I don't speak farsii.  It does however, have english, spanish, chinese and german installed, as I speak those languages.
[00:08] <ceil420> dr_willis, cat can do it? :o
[00:08] <trollboy> DarkKnight, that's the point.  You install what you need, forget the rest
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> rustybox: xinput list
[00:08] <dr_willis> ceil420,  it MIGHT be able to..   check the mencoder  and ffmpeg docs/faq's they discuss this topic
[00:08] <ceil420> dr_willis, i just went through mencoder's ridiculously long man page (damn mplayer) and didn't see how to do what i wanted
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> rustybox: xinput set-int-prop THATDEVICENUMBER 'Device Enabled' 32 0
[00:08] <shakau> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[00:08] <ceil420> i'm about to install ffmpeg :x
[00:09] <ceil420> dr_willis, cheers
[00:09] <Cannabis> hallo
[00:09] <dr_willis> ceil420,  i reah through both apps docs/faqs the other day ont heir homepages.. lots of neet info in there
[00:09] <shakau> someone helpe-me to instal gtk+ ?
[00:09] <DarkKnight> trollboy; its not about being installed...what i am asking is does it contain ll packages...like gcc....etc......i just saw the desktop edition it does not have gcc...etc...they have to be downloaded...for the  desktop dvd edition there is no need to download
[00:09] <rathel> I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything,and I notice 'xset q' says DPMS Disabled I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[00:09] <ceil420> dr_willis, loooots of crap to sift through before you can find what you're actually looking for, though :x
[00:09] <shakau> ALGUM BR AE?
[00:09] <Cannabis> kann jemand deutsch?
[00:09] <dr_willis> ceil420,  thats what search features are for
[00:09] <Cannabis> :P
[00:09] <shakau> someone helpe-me to instal gtk+ ?????????
[00:10] <RITN> ubuntu is lame.  i cant even mount a share successfully
[00:10] <zsquareplusc> !de | Cannabis
[00:10] <RITN> gentoo here i come
[00:10] <Pici> !br | shakau
[00:10] <DasEi> !de|Cannabis
[00:10] <trollboy> DarkKnight, do you have bandwidth limitations that prevent downloading?
[00:10] <ceil420> RITN, sounds like a PEBKAC
[00:10] <rustybox> ActionParsnip, what's the device number? is that the id=10?
[00:10] <trollboy> DarkKnight, most distro's have all gone "Download on Demand" for packages
[00:10] <trollboy> DarkKnight, even windows has done that to a degree, as has mac ox
[00:11] <RITN> no
[00:11] <RITN> that sounds like 2 hours in this room and no one could help.
[00:11] <mike2001> external usb hard drive which partition table should i use for pic doc vid and music files and to use with windows
[00:11] <trollboy> RITN, what's your issue
[00:11] <jhjk> which is the best distro?
[00:11] <ceil420> DarkKnight, even Debian doesn't include gcc and other 'build-essential' stuff by default
[00:11] <trollboy> I've got several shares on my ubuntu boxen
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> rustybox: yeah sounds good
[00:11] <RITN> i can mount a share.  works great.  i cannot write to the drive.
[00:11] <meoblast001> is bakefile included in ubuntu?
[00:11] <RITN> input/output error
[00:11] <trollboy> jhjk, configure your box right and it doesn't matter
[00:11] <DarkKnight> trollboy; i have been given the task to install ubuntu and make client-server installation.....and in college the net speed is very low...as low as 56kbps
[00:12] <Cannabis> ^^
[00:12] <RITN> //snappy/250    /media/250      smbfs   username=ritn,password=*******,rw,umask=000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,uid=1000,gid=1000
[00:12] <RITN> thats my line
[00:12] <trollboy> RITN, I've seen that before.. its user parm errors
[00:12] <trollboy> RITN,  try killing the uid and gid and authing against pam
[00:12] <jhjk> trollboy u r right but how do i do that?
[00:12] <bmk789> how do i get "org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui" in eclipse?
[00:12] <RITN> pam?
[00:12] <trollboy> jhjk, time and patience and a learning curve
[00:13] <RITN> i did try killin uid.
[00:13] <zsquareplusc> RITN: fyi, the channel is logged and you once did post the password, you should change it, if the box is somehow connected to the internet
[00:13] <trollboy> RITN, by specifying uid and gid you're forcing the mount to a user
[00:13] <RITN> it never is
[00:13] <DarkKnight> trollboy; ??
[00:13] <RITN> i did that.  same problem
[00:13] <Bryan> I had to install a x86 version of skype for a x86-64 version of Ubuntu. Is there any reason that it will only connect if I run it as root?
[00:13] <Agent24> Anyone know anything about getting future domain scsi controllers working in ubuntu?
[00:13] <rustybox> ActionParsnip, i think it worked! Thanks a lot
[00:13] <trollboy> so no matter who mounts the drive, they get the rights of that user
[00:13] <RITN> no matter how i configure that set of parms
[00:13] <RITN> same shit.
[00:13] <trollboy> PAM is Password Authentication
[00:13] <Cannabis> German?
[00:13] <trollboy> so create a user on the box, and mount as that user
[00:13] <trollboy> and you're golden
[00:13] <RITN> iv messed with pam before.  how does that have anything to do wit samba though?
[00:13] <trollboy> Cannabis, ja?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> rustybox: sweet
[00:14] <xiamx> how to enable framebuffer? # defoptions=quiet splash locale=zh_CN vga=869 doesn't work
[00:14] <RITN> your saying its the wrong user credintals?
[00:14] <jhjk> trollboy which command shows me the running procceses?
[00:14] <trollboy> DarkKnight, I'd make a small image mirror locally then
[00:14] <trollboy> RITN, Pam is the basic "user/password" system of linux
[00:14] <trollboy> jhjk, ps does, although I recommend typing ps aux for a full listing
[00:15] <jhjk> thanks man :)
[00:15] <trollboy> jhjk, alternatively you can type top and get the top resource using apps
[00:15] <trollboy> np
[00:15] <trollboy> RITN, you see what I'm saying
[00:15] <DarkKnight> trollboy; my only worry is whether sever edition has gcc, gcj , eclipse...umbrello, anjuta , drupal etc....or do i have to make download
[00:15] <trollboy> PAM isn't some new system or something funky like kerebos or ldap, its easy
[00:16] <PeskyJ> where would be the best place to ask for hardcore dvdauthor help? I can't find much on the official site not even a bug tracker or mailing list
[00:17] <RITN> trollboy: it logs in fine.
[00:17] <trollboy> RITN, type "cat /etc/passwd" on your local box, you'll see a list of users, in the following format Username:password(replaced with x):uid
[00:17] <raylu> DarkKnight: the server edition has all the packages other editions do; they use the same repositories
[00:17] <raylu> trollboy: er, /etc/shadow?
[00:17] <trollboy> that's how linux sees people, for example I am trollboy:1001
[00:17] <DarkKnight> raylu; thanq...
[00:17] <DarkKnight> raylu; i checked the apt-mirror...i have some doubts....
[00:18] <raylu> ?
[00:18] <trollboy> now linux is very particular on its file permissions RITN, so when you're forcing a uid like that, you're taking away control and saying "NO IT IS THIS USER"
[00:18] <RITN> and then?  trollboy
[00:18] <trollboy> your problem is, that user doesn't have rights
[00:18] <ijam> oit
[00:18] <RITN> to what?
[00:19] <trollboy> what I would do is just create a useraccount on the server, make damn sure that user has read/write parms on that dir
[00:19] <RITN> the server is a nas
[00:19] <trollboy> then when you auth to that server from the client, user the user/pass you created on the server
[00:19] <RITN> and the server works great.
[00:19] <trollboy> RITN, what sort of NAS
[00:19] <RITN> its this box connecting to the nas
[00:19] <RITN> adaptec snap server
[00:19] <xiamx> how to enable framebuffer? # defoptions=quiet splash locale=zh_CN vga=869 doesn't work
[00:19] <shakau> someone help-me to install gtk+... error on pkg-config !
[00:19] <trollboy> RITN, what else are you connecting to it with?
[00:19] <RITN> windows xp
[00:19] <raylu> xiamx: did you run update-grub?
[00:19] <DarkKnight> raylu; how do i make a directory on server as FTP
[00:19] <RITN> multiple xp clients
[00:19] <trollboy> ok
[00:19] <raylu> DarkKnight: which ftpd?
[00:20] <trollboy> RITN, how do you auth to it?
[00:20] <shakau> someone help-me to install gtk+... error on pkg-config !
[00:20] <RITN> what
[00:20] <xiamx> raylu: oh... forgot.. thanks
[00:20] <RITN> i just //snappy
[00:20] <RITN> it ask for user/pass
[00:20] <RITN> thats it
[00:20] <trollboy> RITN from the windows box, how do you auth to it?
[00:20] <trollboy> ok
[00:20] <trollboy> Good
[00:20] <RITN> i even have some mapped shares.
[00:20] <gradin> so i'm looking to buy a ubuntu compatable video camera but i've no idea whats supported
[00:20] <MHz128> hello world
[00:20] <trollboy> so you should be able to
[00:21] <trollboy> RITN, this is from my /etc/mtab trollboy@192.168.1.101:/storage /home/trollboy/fileserver fuse.sshfs rw,nosuid,nodev,max_read=65536,user=trollboy 0 0
[00:21] <gradin> anybody got any links or ideas?
[00:21] <trollboy> wait.. that's wrong for you
[00:21] <trollboy> one sec
[00:21] <MHz128> Unable to connect via WPA using a Linksys WMP54Gv4 (rt2500pci or ndiswrapper) using Network Manager... any ideas? anyone using this card?
[00:21] <xiamx> raylu: I did it and it prompt"a new version of menu.lst is avaible , but he version installed currently has been locally modifiled"  should I chose to "Keep the local version currently installed?"
[00:21] <raylu> xiamx: nope.
[00:22] <raylu> xiamx: use the new version
[00:22] <trollboy> RITN, paste me your line again, and what file is it in?
[00:22] <raylu> MHz128: why did you try ndiswrapper?
[00:23] <xiamx>  raylu: There's no such option,    "Install the package maintainer's version",  "Keep the local version installed", [... merge...]
[00:23] <RITN> //snappy/250    /media/250      smbfs   username=ritn,password=*******,rw,umask=000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,uid=1000,gid=1000
[00:23] <MHz128> raylu, why? because the native rt2500 driver wouldn't work eitehr
[00:23] <RITN> i took the uid and gid out
[00:23] <raylu> xiamx: "install the package maintainer's version" is what you want
[00:23] <RITN> in the fstab
[00:23] <DarkKnight> raylu; http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html#s8     under the ftp he has included something about sym links...
[00:23] <zsquareplusc> RITN: silly question.. does /media/250 actually exist?
[00:23] <RITN> yup
[00:23] <raylu> MHz128: if the native driver doesn't work, ndiswrapper is unlikely to give you better results
[00:23] <Brack10> so I installed Intrepid on my 10 year old sister's computer because she messed up her windows box badly with limewire, it's an OptiPlex GX260 and it looks like her video card isn't getting acceleration and thus "webkinz" and youtube are slow which is a primary concern of hers.  When I try and enable desktop effects, it just tells me that I can't do it...the computer has a built in intel video card with 8 megs of memory....anyone got any ideas?
[00:24] <xiamx>  raylu: I've modified menu.lst, does maintainer's version discard it?
[00:24] <Brack10> hw acceleration works on windows
[00:24] <MHz128> raylu, oh i c! it connects flawlessly using WEP.... but, i'd rather use wpa......
[00:24] <banisterfiend> hey guys
[00:24] <banisterfiend>  my current sbcl is installed in /usr/bin
[00:24] <banisterfiend>  but i have a feeling the new (custom build) sbcl is going to be installed in /usr/local/
[00:24] <banisterfiend>  is this something i should worry about?
[00:24] <FloodBot2> banisterfiend: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <banisterfiend> (sbcl is a lisp compiler)
[00:24] <raylu> MHz128: from what i hear, wpa is a little harder to set up. i assume you've gone through !wireless and whatnot?
[00:25] <raylu> MHz128: because i have no experience with it
[00:25] <raylu> banisterfiend: it sounds like you're building from source
[00:25] <banisterfiend> raylu: yes i am
[00:25] <raylu> banisterfiend: any particular reason?
[00:25] <trollboy> RITN, and your gentoo box worked as well?
[00:25] <MHz128> !wireless
[00:25] <banisterfiend> raylu: yeah the packaged version is really old
[00:25] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: that's how it should be. /usr/bin is for binaries from packages. if you do the make/install it should go to either /usr/local/bin or a folder under /opt
[00:25] <RITN> i dont have my gentoo up
[00:25] <RITN> my win does
[00:26] <trollboy> RITN, thought you were saying you could make it work with gentoo but not ubuntu?
[00:26] <RITN> i did what it says in !samba here
[00:26] <RITN> !samba
[00:26] <banisterfiend> zsquareplusc: so the two versions wont interfere with eachother?
[00:26] <banisterfiend> zsquareplusc: i shouldn't try to uninstall the one in /usr/bin/ ?
[00:26] <raylu> banisterfiend: you should, actually
[00:26] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: probably not, but you might want to uninstall the package to get yours by default
[00:26] <andymac44> Is nvidia-glx-177 for a nvidia cards only? ie.. would installing it on a system with an intel integrated card cause harm?
[00:27] <banisterfiend> raylu: which one will run if i type 'sbcl' the old or the new one?
[00:27] <rogan> help! If I go to login I get | Xsession: unable to start xsession --- no "/home/rogan/.xsession" file, no "/home/rogan/.Xsession" file, no session managers,no window managers, and no terminal emulators foun; aborting.
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> banisterfiend: if i were you, i would look at the 'checkinstall' package
[00:27] <RITN> trollboy: that was just out of frustration
[00:27] <DarkKnight> raylu; ??
[00:27] <benbloom> ok Anyone else having problems with Firefox and window decorator?
[00:28] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: when there already is a package, the alternative would be, rebuild it for your own. that's apt-get source | build-dep and compile your won .deb package
[00:28] <trollboy> RITN, ah, fair enough.  Try to avoid that as it can cause issues.  Now, from the windows boxes, you connect just fine as ritn?
[00:28] <RITN> yup
[00:28] <RITN> could it be a local directory permission problem?
[00:28] <trollboy> which model snap server is it?
[00:28] <raylu> DarkKnight: what about it?
[00:29] <trollboy> RITN, sorta?
[00:29] <DarkKnight> raylu; http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO.html#s8     under the ftp he has included something about sym links...
[00:29] <raylu> banisterfiend: that depends on the order of your $PATH
[00:29] <trollboy> RITN, msg me
[00:29] <raylu> DarkKnight: again, what about it?
[00:29] <banisterfiend> zsquareplusc: would it be ok if i install the source version now (make install) and then i go apt-get remove sbcl ? (to remove the packaged version) ?
[00:29] <DarkKnight> raylu; i dont know how to create sym links
[00:29] <raylu> DarkKnight: ln
[00:30] <raylu> DarkKnight: and again, i really think you need to have a lot more experience before undertaking this project
[00:30] <GeoMus> how to keep iptables rules ??
[00:30] <DarkKnight> raylu; hm... ya but its not a project....promoting linux in our campus
[00:30] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: that probably is. but software installed with "make install" usually can't be easily removed. thus, make sure its going into install all files into /usr/local. i prefer /opt/program, as there its easy to remove.. all is in one folder, one per app
[00:30] <Kelen> DarkKnight: ln <sourse path> <target path>
[00:31] <DarkKnight> Kelen; where this path??
[00:31] <raylu> Kelen: this is a person who will be setting up a computer lab of ~60 computers
[00:32] <wolver> Hi
[00:32] <gradin> i'm looking to buy a video camera that works in ubuntu, anybody got links?
[00:33] <iratiku> what do you mean by video camera?
[00:33] <wolver> can someone help me with neural networks?
[00:33] <raylu> wolver: ...is that a joke?
[00:33] <zsquareplusc> !hardware > gradin
[00:33] <wolver> i know that it's an ubuntu server but, i wanna know how to do a simple neural net
[00:33] <iratiku> wow
[00:33] <xiamx> vga=869, grub boot up error: video mode not avaiable  how to fix it?
[00:34] <iratiku> wolver: i can point you to some stuff in C
[00:34] <Supavisah> How to make it so I don't have to enter a password everytime to do things in Ubuntu?
[00:34] <iratiku> sudo -s
[00:34] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[00:34] <zsquareplusc> xiamx: remove vga completely. or are you depending on framebuffer consoles?
[00:34] <wolver> i really apreciate if u can tell me how to do the perceptron
[00:34] <Supavisah> Also how to make it automatically login without any need to put in a username / password
[00:34] <wolver> or some simple net
[00:34] <iratiku> wolver: the perceptron is pretty easy
[00:34] <ranok> you can set your sudo cookie to expire after a very long time
[00:34] <banisterfiend> ok i just installed sbcl but during installation i got this errror (at the end): Documentation: man /usr/local/share/man/man1/sbcl.1 cp: cannot stat `doc/manual/*.info': No such file or directory
[00:34] <wolver> please tell me how, i know some theory
[00:34] <iratiku> wolver: don't look at my code though ... it sucks... depends what language you are doing it in anyway
[00:34] <ranok> Supavisah: go to the system, admin and login
[00:35] <iratiku> Are you 17?
[00:35] <wolver> can u send me it
[00:35] <banisterfiend> and i looked in the directory doc/manual and the files are actually *.texinfo not *.info
[00:35] <csc_> what is the  fastest way to configure a remote ssh server to avoid to be asked for a password when connecting to it?
[00:35] <iratiku> csc_: pretty dangerous stuff there
[00:35] <ranok> Supavisah: then on the security tab you should be able to set an auto login
[00:35] <zsquareplusc> csc_: use private keys
[00:36] <csc_> zsquareplusc, ok
[00:36] <ranok> csc_: ssh-copy-id
[00:36] <wolver> i know some theory bout neural net's but when i'm on the compiler i just dont know how to do it xD
[00:36] <xiamx>  zsquareplusc: I need framebuffer
[00:36] <Supavisah> ranok, done :)
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> wolver: i think Arnold Schwarzenegger can help you. just make sure you use the version from T2: Judgment Day
[00:36] <iratiku> wolver: what language?
[00:36] <Supavisah> what about the prompting to change settings e.g. when I went to that dialogue
[00:36] <wolver> c
[00:36] <ranok> csc_: it'll automatically copy your rsa key to the remote server for you
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> wolver: ok, just a little joke. sorry, i don't know how to help
[00:36] <iratiku> wolver: that has got to be the hardest language to get started in neural nets
[00:36] <zsquareplusc> xiamx: ok. then you proably need a different number 768 or something. i don't know these numbers. but there are lists out there
[00:36] <iratiku> even though its the most native for that type of work
[00:37] <iratiku> wolver: http://www.cs.bham.ac.uk/~jxb/NN/nn.html
[00:37] <wolver> any language, i just wanna know the logic bout neural nets
[00:37] <xiamx> Where should framebuffer option be added , after   kernel	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic   or to # defoptions?
[00:37] <csc_> ranok, that's very useful thanks
[00:37] <iratiku> perceptron isn't hard ....
[00:37] <wolver> thanks man
[00:37] <iratiku> its just random initialization of coefficients for a given number of inputs ... sum.. and put through a sigmoid or other type of function
[00:38] <wolver> i'll take a look on that link
[00:38] <Cam25MM> qualcuno sa spiegarmi come installare la webcam???
[00:38] <Supavisah> ranok, is it possible?
[00:38] <zsquareplusc> xiamx: to defopts. as update-grub that is run after a new kernel is installed, looks at this lines. if you modify that, you want to run update-grub yourself too
[00:38] <KinKing> I need this line working with ports: iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -d BAD: 97.109.101.46  -j DNAT --to GOOD: 69.65.40.153
[00:38] <RonDutt> Is there a way to use make/gcc to compile for w32 on a linux box?
[00:38] <ranok> Supavisah: use visudo to set the timeout to many many minutes
[00:38] <KinKing> could anyone tell me how to do it? =(
[00:38] <banisterfiend> zsquareplusc:  is a *.texinfo the same as *.info ....cos it's freaking otu that it cant find *.info but if i rename the files it's meant to be looking for in the install.sh to *.texinfo will it work?
[00:39] <gradin> zsquareplusc: that doesn't help... i'm looking to buy
[00:39] <MenZa> Supavisah: I don't suggest doing that. It's a major security hole you're opening there.
[00:39] <Cam25MM> anyone can teach me how to install webcam logitech?pvt thanks
[00:39] <mrwes> re
[00:39] <jackal> I've built an ubuntu custom live-cd that I would like to have diskless workstations pxe boot and load into RAM.  I would like a fat-client, however I want to basically achieve the same result as using "toram" on a livecd, but via pxe.  Is this possible?
[00:39] <raylu> !it | Cam25MM
[00:39] <Supavisah> MenZa, I do plan on doing it ;)
[00:39] <MenZa> Supavisah: Why?
[00:39] <Supavisah> ranok, where do I do that?
[00:39] <ranok> Supavisah: http://fedorasolved.org/Members/opsec/sudo-an-advanced-howto
[00:39] <Supavisah> MenZa, because no one will be using it except me.
[00:39] <zsquareplusc> banisterfiend: i dont know. depends on the makefile and if docs where the last thing it did. maybe you lack a tool to create the files. makeinfo or something like that
[00:40] <MenZa> Supavisah: Even so.
[00:40] <n2diy> I just upgraded from 5.10 to 6.06, do I need to load the updates for 6.06, or can I upgrade to 7.04?
[00:40] <eseven73> anyone know what files need to be changed if you move a vmware vm? theres like 8 files (just moving the main vmware hdd file is resulting in vmware throwing error messages)
[00:40] <xiamx>  zsquareplusc: I checked out 869 is for 1440x900 24bits, the code is right, what's the possible cause of the nonavailable error?
[00:41] <ranok> n2diy: I recommend doing the updates, as there is a new update utility, which will help upgradte more
[00:41] <zsquareplusc> gradin: its difficult to get lists like that. one option is search google if you have a specific product in mind (q= prod + ubuntu). even better is when you can try it out on a live system (i.e. run a ubuntu live cd and try it)
[00:42] <raylu> ranok: he may end up downloading updates multiple times, though
[00:42] <raylu> ranok: he could just update the update utilities
[00:43] <ranok> raylu: yeah, hopefully all the packages are nice about updating data files etc al
[00:43] <banisterfiend> zsquareplusc: yeah docs were the last thing it did :)
[00:43] <ranok> Supavisah: help?
[00:43] <n2diy> ! upgrade
[00:43] <gradin> zsquareplusc: well thats silly, you would think ubuntu would have its own webstore of supported hardware
[00:43] <zsquareplusc> xiamx: maybe your card or the kernel driver isn't supporting that one. see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[00:43] <raylu> gradin: that'd be impossible to maintain
[00:43] <raylu> gradin: wait, a web store? why?
[00:44] <zsquareplusc> gradin: there you have your business idea ;-)
[00:44] <gradin> raylu: convinence, profit, supporting linux
[00:44] <ranok> there is lots of supported hardware
[00:44] <raylu> gradin: generally, it works the other way around. linux tries to support the hardware :P
[00:44] <Supavisah> ranok, no it's fine :)
[00:45] <linkmaster03> How do I find my soundcard model from terminal?
[00:45] <raylu> linkmaster03: lspci, lsusb
[00:45] <ranok> raylu: beat me to it :P
[00:45] <xiamx> zsquareplusc: k thanks, another reboot now
[00:45] <gradin> raylu: hard data that people want support for drivers and a real direct benifit for hardware manufactures to see that their product is being sold
[00:45] <zsquareplusc> linkmaster03: what raylu sugests or lshw -C sound
[00:45] <gradin> specifically because of linux
[00:45] <onetinsoldier> linkmaster03: try out.. lspci -v | less
[00:45] <linkmaster03> raylu: oh yeah thanks
[00:46] <raylu> gradin: not many hardware manufacturers would be interested in that
[00:46] <wilber> Should I install Linux first or Windows first?
[00:46] <ranok> gradin: checkout system76
[00:46] <raylu> gradin: which is why they only try to get it to run on windows in the first place
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> linkmaster03: what zsquareplusc said is probably better, but you might need to install the 'lshw' package
[00:46] <raylu> gradin: which is why the problem exists in the first place
[00:46] <raylu> wilber: windows
[00:47] <wilber> ty
[00:47] <raylu> wilber: both will install boot loaders, but the windows one won't boot linux to save its life
[00:47] <linkmaster03> raylu: zsquareplusc: onetinsoldier: thanks guys
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> :)
[00:47] <Supavisah> Should I always update the kernal version?
[00:47] <raylu> Supavisah: depends on who you are and what the machine is being used for
[00:48] <Supavisah> personal development.
[00:48] <zsquareplusc> Supavisah: if you are asking if you should do security updates? then the answer is yes
[00:48] <Supavisah> Okay.
[00:48] <Agent24>  Anyone know anything about getting future domain scsi controllers working in ubuntu?
[00:48] <raylu> Supavisah: sys admins for mission critical servers often wait before updating
[00:48] <Supavisah> Ah okay.
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: i would update it. but then again, i compile my own custom kernels
[00:48] <Supavisah> So I'm the test subject? :P
[00:48] <ctesibiusulpius> does ubuntu handle .deb?
[00:49] <linkmaster03> ctesibiusulpius: yes
[00:49] <ranok>   ctesibiusulpius yes
[00:49] <raylu> Supavisah: not quite. you're like a second or third level test subject
[00:49] <ctesibiusulpius> I thought so, I'm in search of help for a friend, I appreciate it
[00:49] <rathel> I can't seem to get my DPMS working in xorg.conf, I have set OffTime to 1 and it doesn't do anything,and I notice 'xset q' says DPMS Disabled I know it works because I can do 'xset dpms force off' and it shuts my monitors off.
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: test subject? i doubt it.. this is an ubuntu package we're talking about, correct?
[00:49] <Supavisah> Yes?
[00:50] <raylu> onetinsoldier: debian is still on 2.6.26
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: just do it
[00:50] <Supavisah> i prefer KDE myself.. but it's so buggy >.<
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> raylu: yes.. i know.
[00:50] <Supavisah> I have to admit, ubuntu has improved significantly - especially for the effects.
[00:50] <spunk> hello! I'm considering buying an Acer Aspire One (1GB ram, 1.6GHz Atom single core). Am I total nuts if I consider running VB on it? Host OS would be WinXP and client would be WinXP and Ubuntu (not running at the same time) configured with 512MB ram... Sorry if I am too off-topic.
[00:51] <ranok> lag
[00:51] <eseven73> anyone know what files need to be changed if you move a vmware vm? theres like 8 files (just moving the main vmware hdd file is resulting in vmware throwing error messages)
[00:51] <onetinsoldier> raylu: however, the heck with that. and the heck with 2.6.27 too. i've got kernel 2.6.28-rc8-git2 compiling as we speak! hehe
[00:51] <raylu> spunk: VB?
[00:51] <raylu> onetinsoldier: heh
[00:51] <mrwes> virtualbox
[00:51] <onetinsoldier> :-)
[00:51] <spunk> raylu: ah, sorry, I mean VirtualBox.
[00:52] <ctesibiusulpius> to use .deb in ubuntu do you have to use the command line or can you right click or double click or whatever
[00:52] <mrwes> Win XP runs nicely in VirtualBox on my 8.04 box
[00:52] <raylu> spunk: it'll run, just not great. why do you need this setup?
[00:52] <raylu> ctesibiusulpius: both
[00:52] <ctesibiusulpius> is one way better than the other?
[00:52] <mrwes> raylu: I beg to differ...XP runs great, matter of fact, faster in Virtualbox
[00:53] <raylu> ctesibiusulpius: if you ask me, i'll always say the cli is better :D
[00:53] <slimg00dy> I'm running Vista on my VB.
[00:53] <raylu> mrwes: um, you have it backwards
[00:53] <ctesibiusulpius> I'm partial to a command line myself
[00:53] <slimg00dy> I'm not used to CLI yet :(  I don't know where to start.
[00:53] <raylu> slimg00dy: that's easy. uninstall the gui
[00:53] <eseven73> no mrwes is correct, win xp runs way faster in a VM
[00:53] <ctesibiusulpius> what's the basic syntax, if you don't mind telling me
[00:53] <mrwes> raylu: how so?
[00:53] <raylu> eseven73: right, but we're talking about xp as the host...
[00:53] <raylu> mrwes: ^
[00:54] <spunk> raylu: the acer model is attractive for its form factor. I know it is a bit on the weak side when it comes to hw-spec. Perhaps I should do the other way around, running Ubuntu as host and WinXP as client. But I'm concerned I need WinXP as host for (crappy) HW-demands...
[00:54] <slimg00dy> raylu: Yeah but I don't know all the commands yet.
[00:54] <DIL> gotta jump right in
[00:54] <eseven73> :/
[00:54] <ctesibiusulpius> I use gentoo, so I have no way to actually check the man pages
[00:54] <mrwes> shrug....
[00:54] <slimg00dy> raylu: I only know the basic basic stuff.
[00:54] <raylu> slimg00dy: right. so take off the gui and you'll be forced to learn it. preferably, do this on another machine :D
[00:54] <matkix> I'm thinking about installing a web admin panel.  Is there anything thats opensource and better than webmin? I was just about to install webmin, but I thought I would stop and ask the ubpros.
[00:54] <mrwes> raylu: and with guest additions and seamless...it rocks
[00:54] <mrwes> .
[00:54] <mrwes> :)
[00:54] <raylu> spunk: ask eseven73 and mrwes
[00:54] <slimg00dy> raylu: Maybe I'll buy a netbook and do it on that, but right now this is my only machine.
[00:54] <eseven73> !webmin
[00:54] <rogan> If I go to login I get | Xsession: unable to start xsession --- no "/home/rogan/.xsession" file, no "/home/rogan/.Xsession" file, no session managers,no window managers, and no terminal emulators foun; aborting.
[00:55] <rogan> help!
[00:55] <matkix> !ebox
[00:55] <ranok> slimg00dy: I'm sure there a number of tutorials for starting with the terminal
[00:55] <slimg00dy> raylu: Yeah that costs money :P
[00:55] <slimg00dy> raylu: Well the books do anyway.
[00:55] <ranok> rogan: what'd you do?
[00:55] <raylu> slimg00dy: what? books? hah.
[00:55] <DIL> slimg00dy: > http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html
[00:55] <ranok> slimg00dy: use the internets
[00:56] <raylu> no, don't read tutorials =\. just use a cli :D
[00:56] <Jimi__Hendrix> were do i report bugs?
[00:56] <ctesibiusulpius> thanks for the help guys
[00:56] <matkix> hahah It seems that Ebox can't be installed on 8.10 :S
[00:56] <slimg00dy> Thanks, I'll use it after I'm done studying for Cisco.
[00:56] <rogan> ranok I was trying to uninstall kde 4.2 beta 1
[00:56] <atb101010> has anyone tried installing ubuntu 8.10 on a gigabyte ga-ex58-ud5 mobo?
[00:56] <spunk> mrwes: would it be better to use Ubuntu as host and WinXP as client then? What do you think about the spec? 1GB ram and 1.6Ghz single core atom?
[00:56] <raylu> !launchpad | Jimi__Hendrix
[00:56] <slimg00dy> Anyone here good with Cisco routers and switches by any chance?
[00:56] <rogan> ranok the person helping me logged off
[00:56] <raylu> !apport | Jimi__Hendrix
[00:56] <raylu> !info apport
[00:56] <Jimi__Hendrix> lol
[00:56] <Jimi__Hendrix> thank you
[00:56] <ranok> rogan: looks like you knocked out all your desktop mamagers
[00:56] <nbeebo> sorry for off-topic but, how do i do so a commands output shows and updates inside of conky? #conky so empty
[00:56] <infinity1> slimg00dy: yes. but off-topic
[00:57] <rogan> ranok help ! lol
[00:57] <slimg00dy> infinity1: Yeah, I know, I figured I'd at least ask.
[00:57] <mrwes> spunk: I run XP in VB with 512mb of ram, and I have a total of 2gb of ram
[00:57] <ranok> rogan: install ubuntu-desktop
[00:57] <matkix> Well is there any good web managers like webmin or ebox, as it seems I can't install those on 8.10
[00:57] <onetinsoldier> LjL: hello there!
[00:57] <raylu> !info conky
[00:57] <slimg00dy> infinity1: Mind answering some questions for me?
[00:57] <huxl3y> Anyone here good with a USB mic config?
[00:57] <infinity1> slimg00dy: as long as they are quick
[00:57] <mrwes> spunk: also, I made a 10gb virtual drive
[00:58] <slimg00dy> infinity1: I'll copy and paste.
[00:58] <zykes-> what encryption is the nicer towards cpu ?  serpent-cbc-essiv:sha256 vs aes-cbc-essiv:sha256
[00:58] <nbeebo> , raylu, yeah, but thought it would be complicate to figure out for myself...
[00:58] <eseven73> matkix: sadly no
[00:58] <matkix> eseven73, So there are no web managers for ubuntu?
[00:58] <mrwes> heh...my nick was killshot for years
[00:59] <spunk> mrwes: ok, do you run Ubuntu as host? What CPU do you have?
[00:59] <raylu> nbeebo: sorry, i was just wondering what conky was
[00:59] <eseven73> didnt say that i meant none that are better than wemin/ebox besides ones that are not free, at least that im aware of
[00:59] <nbeebo> raylu, oh, i guess ur new then
[00:59] <tino_> h
[00:59] <tino_> hellp
[00:59] <mrwes> spunk: yah, ubuntu 8.04 as the host with an AMD +3200
[01:00] <nbeebo> tino_ ask ur question right away or people will whine.. like me lol
[01:00] <onetinsoldier> slimg00dy: if i can answer them i will. and i'm in no hurry. no hurries, no worries
[01:00] <matkix> eseven73, do you know if webmin or ebox will work on 8.10?
[01:00] <urchin> is sloopy on
[01:00] <mrwes> spunk: it's an old HP and XP runs fine with that setup in a VB
[01:00] <eseven73> ebox would
[01:00] <eseven73> or should anyways
[01:01] <Supavisah> Hey, I can't edit files in /var/www/ despite being the only user.. how can I make it so I can?
[01:01] <spunk> mrwes: ok, a tad more muscles than an atom 1.6Ghz then. :-) How much ram does Ubuntu typically use? Do you think I could manage by splitting 1GB into 50/50 for host and client.
[01:01] <matkix> eseven73,  "the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed."
[01:01] <mrwes> spunk: hrmm...that should run Ok
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: proceed every command with 'sudo' if needed
[01:01] <raylu> Supavisah: generally, you would create a symlink inside /var/www to your home directory or enable apache2's user directory directive
[01:01] <matkix> eseven73, think that just means I need to install it another way?
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: or... use   sudo -i
[01:02] <mrwes> spunk: fire it up and find out :)
[01:02] <raylu> Supavisah: otherwise, sudo chown $USER /var/www
[01:02] <urchin> i use ubunt 08.4
[01:02] <Supavisah> raylu, what will that command do?
[01:02] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:02] <raylu> Supavisah: make it so that you own /var/www
[01:02] <eseven73> lol everything is broke in 8.10 silly, get 8.04 lol im gonna get kicked for that but was well worth it :P  im shutting up now! eseven73 will behave :)
[01:02] <raylu> Supavisah: but some people say that that's not a good idea
[01:02] <Supavisah> how can I make it so I own everything/
[01:02]  * eseven73 hides
[01:02] <raylu> Supavisah: define "everything"
[01:02] <Supavisah> *
[01:02] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: don't do that
[01:02] <raylu> what he said ^
[01:02] <mrwes> eseven73: 8.10 runs great on my laptop
[01:02] <Supavisah> Why not?
[01:03] <raylu> !permissions
[01:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Supavisah bad idea
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> raylu: nice one
[01:03] <spunk> mrwes: I have not bought the Acer yet. :-) Being able to run VB is crucial for me. (so you are actually contributing a lot to my decision right now :-))
[01:03] <eseven73> mrwes: well good for you
[01:03] <Flannel> eseven73: Nothing wrong with suggesting 8.04.  It's LTS and that's a benefit as well.  Although "its all broken for me" isn't a good reason usually.
[01:03] <Supavisah> Just why?
[01:03] <raylu> Supavisah: the short answer is security
[01:03] <Supavisah> obv, but I couldn't care less about security tbh.
[01:03] <mrwes> eseven73: well j00 lamer...then everything ISN'T broken....duh
[01:03] <eseven73> heehee Flannel yeah, i agree
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: that's like asking why a black hole suck in light
[01:03] <raylu> Supavisah: in the form of virii
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> Supavisah: that's like asking why a black hole sucks in light
[01:04] <mrwes> spunk: you have some win apps you must run?
[01:04] <Supavisah> hmmh
[01:04] <urchin> is  ubuntu good
[01:04] <raylu> urchin: this is a horrible place to ask that question
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> urchin Please dont ask that in here
[01:04] <urchin> fuck you
[01:04] <spunk> mrwes: I'm afraid I will have in the near future. A VPN client for example. :-(
[01:04] <raylu> the answer here is "yes." the answer in #fedora is "no." the answer in #freebsd is "linux sucks anyway"
[01:04] <matkix> ahhh now for the kicking
[01:05] <mrwes> that's like going into a Mickey D's and asking if a quarter pounded is better than a Whopper..heh
[01:05] <spunk> mrwes: :-)
[01:05] <tino_> hi there
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> urchin: i have been a plin old debian user for along time. ubuntu is better imo. just nicer. especially if you're not familiar with linux, it helps. bit even if your not, it's just nice
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier he is long gone
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> plin = plain
[01:05] <tino_> can i remote desktop from ubuntu to windows server box?
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: roger that
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> wha happened to him so quick?
[01:05] <bartek> Hi there. I am using Gnome but for some reason my update manager keeps giving me KDE packages to download. I don't want these, how can I stop them from showing up?
[01:06] <raylu> tino_: yes...but you just said "windows server," hehe.
[01:06] <spunk> mrwes: and the Im unsure if all HW in the ACER is fully supported by Ubuntu. 3G-modem for example.
[01:06] <Supavisah> How to make it so all my folders are in 'compact' view?
[01:06] <mrwes> spunk: I only use win in a  VB to run Auto Gordian Knot and some web sites that balk at Firefox Linux
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier Zero tolerance for that
[01:06] <raylu> bartek: you installed something that depends on them
[01:06] <spunk> mrwes: ok
[01:06] <tino_> raylu: yes I manage linux and windows server
[01:06] <mrwes> spunk: dunno about that...
[01:06] <bartek> raylu: I had kde before, but I removed it, but perhaps I did it wrong. How can I make sure it's gone?
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: i guess i missed what he was doing.. i was busy looking at my keyboard as i type
[01:06] <raylu> bartek: what package manager are you using?
[01:06] <bartek> synaptic
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> onetinsoldier np
[01:06] <nbeebo> can i do so conky starts efter gnome-desktop in bootscript?
[01:07] <raylu> bartek: hrm. not entirely familiar with that. can you give me the name of a kde packag you have?
[01:07] <raylu> *package
[01:07] <nbeebo> or when i boot overall
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome > bartek
[01:07] <Iowahc> hy there everyone, I am wondering if there is a possibility to mount NFS shares over: Places->Connect to server ...
[01:07] <matkix> For what I'm attempting to do it would be helpfull to have a web admin panel... With that said what server os would you say I should use?
[01:07] <spunk> mrwes: Well then. There is only one way to really find out I guess... :-) Anyway, thanks for your help!
[01:07] <mrwes> nbeebo: you can start conky via sessions
[01:07] <mrwes> spunk: no problem
[01:07] <nbeebo> mrwes, oh should try to look there first, i got it but maybe theres settings.. brb
[01:08] <atb101010> onetinesoldier: my ubuntu 8.10 installation does not seem to recognize either of the ethernet adaptors on my gigabyte ex58-ud5 mobo, even though I have both enabled in the bios, am i missing something pretty trivial or do i have to get some special drivers installed?
[01:08] <bartek> Jack_Sparrow: kdelibs5 is not installed.
[01:08] <bartek> Update manager wants me to install: kdecardgames-data, kgeography-data, kstars-data, etc etc.
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bartek Just tring to show you te supported way fo removing kde-kubuntu
[01:09] <bartek> Jack_Sparrow: yah no problem and thanks :) but alas, I don't have that installed
[01:09] <nbeebo> mrwes, ok found settings, thanks
[01:10] <Iowahc> hy there everyone, I am wondering if there is a possibility to mount NFS shares over: Places->Connect to server ...
[01:10] <Bryan> I had to install a x86 version of skype for a x86-64 version of Ubuntu. Is there any reason that it will only connect if I run it as root?
[01:11] <xtera5> would someone mind testing my shoutcast station?
[01:11] <ranok> Iowahc: not that I know of
[01:11] <ranok> xtera5: shout
[01:11] <xtera5> http://76.171.155.174:8000/listen.pls
[01:11] <dva5912> Ok ive installed LCDproc but its asking for a server. What is it talking about? I installed from deb. how would i go about enabling it
[01:11] <deya> hello
[01:11] <raylu> bartek: can you give me the name of a kde package you have?
[01:11] <xtera5> when i type in that ip address i get redirected to the router administration page, but i think outside of my LAN it might work
[01:11] <urchin> hello
[01:12] <deya> hello
[01:12] <bartek> raylu: um, how would I figure out which ones I have installed?
[01:12] <xtera5> did it work?
[01:12] <raylu> bartek: you said synaptic was trying to update them, right?
[01:12] <urchin> mi surrey
[01:12] <bartek> raylu: yah
[01:12] <bartek> Update manager wants me to install: kdecardgames-data, kgeography-data, kstars-data, etc etc.
[01:12] <mrwes> Iowahc: try this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249889
[01:12] <raylu> bartek: install or update?
[01:12] <bartek> install
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> urchin English only in this channel thanks
[01:12] <Iowahc> thanks mrwes
[01:13] <raylu> bartek: sudo aptitude why kdecardgames-data
[01:13] <xtera5> 371 users and nobody will click my link
[01:13] <ranok> xtera5: it failed
[01:13] <jhjk> how can i disable the shares?
[01:13] <urchin> what is you link
[01:13] <nbeebo> whats the command to see if theres updates aviable?
[01:13] <WDC> Hey hey. I am getting this error when starting a VBox machine. Can someone help? http://i34.tinypic.com/dq0tis.png
[01:14] <xtera5> its strange ranok, because shoutcast has a function where it tests your station as soon as you fire up the server, and the test passes
[01:14] <nbeebo> wdc, try channel #vbox if u cant find help here
[01:14] <bartek> raylu: ah very cool. I get: libgnome2-common (suggest), desktop-base (suggest), and (depends) on : kde, kdegames lskat
[01:14] <WDC> nbeebo: Thanks
[01:14] <deya> helooooooooooooooooooo
[01:14] <onetinsoldier> nbeebo: apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[01:14] <raylu> nbeebo: sudo aptitude/apt-get update, then dist-upgrade
[01:14] <Flannel> nbeebo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -s disst-upgrade
[01:14] <gbear14275> hey guys, trying to follow the insructions from this link here to install the pulse audio configuration, but was curious if this factors in/will mess up 64 bit systems.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[01:14] <jhjk> which services should i disable?
[01:14] <xtera5> the test is done on the client side (shoutcast, in this case), and it passes
[01:14] <nbeebo> lol...
[01:14] <xtera5> how is it that shoutcast is able to listen to my station, but nobody else is
[01:14] <urchin> xtera5 what is you link
[01:14] <xtera5> i wish i knew what URL the shoutcast tester was using
[01:14] <nbeebo> onetinsoldier, raylu, flannel ill try
[01:14] <raylu> bartek: are you good to go?
[01:15] <ranok> xtera5: firewall, or something
[01:15] <xtera5> http://76.171.155.174:8000/
[01:15] <gbear14275> I noticed it discusses the flash plugins but I know the 64bit flash is different than others
[01:15] <xtera5> or http://76.171.155.174:8000/listen.pls to listen immediately
[01:15] <bartek> raylu: well, I see the list but I'm not sure what it means? :)
[01:15] <kitche> xtera5: ok let me check
[01:15] <jhjk> which services should i disable?
[01:15] <bartek> are the packages listed what I have currently installed?
[01:15] <deya> hello
[01:15] <kitche> xtera5: seems to be a firewall issue
[01:15] <bartek> Ok answeredm y own question, they aren't
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> bartek:   dpkg - l | less  or  dpkg --get-selections | less
[01:16] <xtera5> kitche thanks, ill look into that
[01:16] <nbeebo> onetinsoldier, raylu, flannel, thanks, but i mean just to see if theres any updates aviable, im going to add it to my conky...
[01:16] <Flannel> nbeebo: right, that's what the -s is for
[01:16] <bartek> thanks onetinsoldier
[01:16] <nbeebo> flannel, oh missed it
[01:16] <onetinsoldier> bartek: you're welcome
[01:16] <Flannel> nbeebo: it'll simulate the upgrade, tell you what would be upgraded, etc.  You could grep "X will be updated, etc etc" line and display that
[01:17] <gbear14275> anyone?
[01:17] <onetinsoldier> nbeebo: well if you do that command i gave you will know.. you can always answer 'N' to the question apt-get asks
[01:17] <raylu> !who | bartek
[01:18] <nbeebo> flannel, onetinssoldier, thank you very much but im looking for a yes/no answer, im trying to get it into my conky... maybe ill check conky manual
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> nbeebo: ok, perhaps what Flannel said is better
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> nbeebo: at any rate, you're welcome
[01:18] <jhjk> any ideas which services should i disable?
[01:18] <xtera5> could someone try accessing http://76.171.155.174 and tell me if a router login page appears?
[01:18] <gbear14275> anyone install pulseaudio on 64bit?
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> xtera5: nope.. just trying to load is all that happens
[01:19] <Detrix42> hello everyone.  is there a way to download packages on one computer  (saved to USB Memory stick) to be installed on another comuter???
[01:20] <Detrix42> *computer
[01:20] <ranok> Detrix42: yes
[01:20] <ranok> download the .deb files
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Detrix42 aptoncd for one
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[01:20] <AndreasMadrid> i installed amule on my linux and it used to run fine. but now when i wanna start it in applications- internet-amule, i get the error that the permissions on the configuration directory are too strict. but i didn't chnage them, and b4 it worked. what went wrong?
[01:20] <AndreasMadrid> and what permissions should i give to the directory /usr/local/bin?
[01:20] <ranok> and then transfer and a dpkg -i them
[01:20] <gbear14275> gonna have to guess thats a no...
[01:21] <Detrix42> Very cool thanks very much....
[01:21] <Detrix42> :)
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gbear14275 is it a 32bit app on 64 os?
[01:21] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: you shouldn't touch those permissions, and that's not the configuration directory
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[01:21] <moose`> What's up
[01:21] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: global configurations are usually in /etc, but it's likely talking about local permissions in your home directory. try "ls -A ~"
[01:21] <ranok> hey mooky
[01:21] <AndreasMadrid> raylu not?
[01:21] <ranok> err
[01:21] <zhjawe> Hi,anyone konws how can I use aMulecmd to add ed2k URL and change download directory?
[01:21] <ranok> moose`:
[01:22] <nbeebo> sudo aptitude update
[01:22] <nbeebo> oh wrong this isnt terminal lol
[01:22] <ganeshredcobra> hello i need a help am using ubuntu 8.04 with gnome desktop i tried to install kde4 from sysnaptic package manager but its not getting installed do any one has a soln
[01:22] <AndreasMadrid> raylu I'm new to linux: ls -A ~ where in a special directory?
[01:22] <raylu> nbeebo: ew, looks like you typed the whole command
[01:22] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: ~ = /home/$USER
[01:22] <joeb3_> Detrix, the files are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:22] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: install kubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <AndreasMadrid> raylu ah
[01:22] <nbeebo> raylu lol
[01:23] <urchin> how do i get on other people servers?
[01:23] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: then you can select a new session @ login
[01:23] <ranok> urchin: you mean with SSH?
[01:23] <moose`> Does anyone know what update patches mypolysploits 1.0's remote installer?
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ranok there is a difference between installing kubuntu-desktop and just KDE
[01:23] <AndreasMadrid> raylu ok, this listed files and directories. and now?
[01:24] <ganeshredcobra> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:24] <ganeshredcobra> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:24] <naknomik> I am trying to mount the system share from a windows machine, c$. When I use smbclient, I can do: smbclient //hostname/c$ -U user then enter password and can read/write entire C: drive of the windows machine, but when I try to mount the C$ share, it gives error.
[01:24] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: now, find the configuration directory it's talking about
[01:24] <ganeshredcobra> its showing this error
[01:24] <urchin> what is ssh
[01:24] <raylu> !ssh | urchin
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ssh
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ganeshredcobra run that command that it gives you in a terminal
[01:24] <gbear14275> could someone take a look at the instructions in part A step two and tell me if they would be incompatible with 64bit 8.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[01:25] <Phase> On my ubuntu install (doesn't happen on Windows or Debian) in Firefox when I right click a link, there is a good chance it won't pop up the right click menu and it'll just randomly select an option (or so it seems) and it'll do whatever action. I've tried this on a 100% fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 and Firefox (without addons), any ideas/known issue/fixes?
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> ganeshredcobra: yes, what happens if you run that command?
[01:25] <ganeshredcobra> ok hw to login in kde4 enviornment
[01:25] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: at the login screen, select a session
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> gbear14275 32bit apps on a 64it box are one of the reasons we strongly suggest to newer users that they NOT run 64 bit os
[01:25] <AndreasMadrid> raylu: it spoke of /usr/local/bin   in ~ I only have .local/share
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ganeshredcobra kubuntu-desktop is selectable wher ou login nder options
[01:26] <onetinsoldier> ganeshredcobra: everything all installed ok now?
[01:26] <gbear14275> Jack_Sparrow: am aware and why I suspected those instructions were tailored to a 32bit system... I do not think pulseaudio is specifically 32bit though is it?
[01:26] <ganeshredcobra> ok thank you dear friends
[01:26] <ganeshredcobra> ya every thing is installed
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> gbear14275 no idea...
[01:27] <ganeshredcobra> hw to check that
[01:27] <fevel> hi
[01:27] <gbear14275> Jack_Sparrow: If i substitute the 32bit flash plugins for the 64bit ones would it work?
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> ganeshredcobra well done, log out select kde
[01:27] <gbear14275> anyone have any experience installing pulseaudio on a 64bit system?
[01:27] <stiv2k> hello what does the {a} mean in the package names?
[01:27] <onetinsoldier> ganeshredcobra: ok, if you are in console terminal, then try  invoke-rc.d kdm start
[01:27] <gbear14275> or... alternatively anyone know of a equalizer that works with 64bit?
[01:27] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: hrm. i'm not sure then. it'd be helpful if they told you which directory they were talking about
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > gbear14275
[01:28] <almark1> Hello, does anyone know how to install java in Ubuntu, I want to install it for Firefox plugin use?
[01:28] <raylu> !java | almark1
[01:28] <sloopy> urchin, need some soap for that mouth?
[01:28] <fevel> I have bought the frozenthrone game and it installed fine through wine. But when I click on battlenet it doesnt advance to te login screen. I would really like to get this game working since I have in earlier versions of ubuntu
[01:28] <almark1> wow o0o)o(o0o that was fast
[01:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fevel Please ask in #winehq
[01:28] <AndreasMadrid> raylu i just gave the user i am, the right to cretate and delete files in /usr/local/bin, and now the program is happy
[01:28] <urchin> hi sloopy
[01:29] <AndreasMadrid> so it worked
[01:29] <ranok>  /back
[01:29] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: um
[01:29] <almark1> I dont know what I need
[01:29] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: now your system is unhappy
[01:29] <sloopy> urchin, that is 'dad' to you...
[01:29] <almark1> sun or the others
[01:29] <nbeebo> can i do so conky runs in root mode at boot? lol
[01:29] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: you shouldn't edit files in /usr/local/bin
[01:29] <ranok> !java > ranok
[01:29] <almark1> I am using Firenes firefox plug
[01:29] <raylu> ranok: next time, just /msg ubottu
[01:29] <fevel> ok Jack_Sparrow
[01:29] <urchin> ok dad
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sloop urchin
[01:30] <stiv2k> hello what does the {a} mean in the package names?
[01:30] <ranok> raylu: sorry, I was showing my friend the bot
[01:30] <sloopy> urchin, and i see you using language like you did above you will find your password get changed to someonething you DONT know
[01:30] <raylu> stiv2k: automatic
[01:30] <AndreasMadrid> raylu: oh
[01:30] <stiv2k> raylu: eh???
[01:30] <Flannel> sloopy: knock it off
[01:30] <Llanowyn> Hello all, I was wondering if someone could help me disable my touchpad without also disabling the left and right click buttons on my laptop.  If I go into Gnomebutton->System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad tab->uncheck the Enable Touchpad option I lose my ability to click.  My laptop also has a nub in the keyboard that still works for mousing around if I uncheck the enable touchpad option.
[01:30] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: what app is this? i think you should copy the binary file to your home dir and run it from somewhere in tere
[01:30] <stiv2k> raylu: so what does it mean?
[01:30] <raylu> stiv2k: it was either automaitcally installed or uninstalled
[01:30] <raylu> stiv2k: because it was a dependency of some installed package
[01:30] <sloopy> Flannel, fine then i will allow him to continue to cuss... in a family channel :'/
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> stiv2k: it means that 'aptitude' is marking then as 'automatically' installed to satisfy dependencies
[01:30] <almark1> Do I need all the files that sun java gives me? 100mb is big
[01:30] <stiv2k> raylu: ah ok... so thats not actually part of the package name
[01:31] <raylu> sloopy: you should tell him to stop, not threaten him
[01:31] <stiv2k> onetinsoldier: raylu: i get it now
[01:31] <urchin> but thay ware being mean to me
[01:31] <sloopy> raylu, i have told him before...
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> stiv2k: ok, roger
[01:31] <raylu> sloopy: not an excuse
[01:31] <Flannel> sloopy: He's already been spoken to about it.  This is a family friendly channel, not a lets-intimidate-people-for-no-reason channel
[01:32] <sloopy> Flannel, i am not intimidating a random person, i am disiplineing my 10YO son...
[01:32] <AndreasMadrid> raylu maybe i installed it in the wrong directory, that may be the cuase. I will try to reinstall it. Thank you.
[01:32] <slimg00dy> I curse at random parts of my sentences not directed towards someone, is that okay?
[01:33] <sloopy> slimg00dy, you are not my 10YO son ;')
[01:33] <almark1> I was wondering, why linux downloading speed is so much faster then windows? Nothing hindering the speed maybe?
[01:33] <marnanel> Hello.  I have a monitor attached to my laptop and it used to work that I could see both screens.  Today since rebooting the system *knows* there's the separate screen attached in the dialogue, but the screen stays black even when I turn it on...
[01:33] <marnanel> and when I close and re-open the dialogue it's gone back to "Off".
[01:33] <bulio> I'm trying to run virtualbox in ubuntu
[01:33] <marnanel> any clues as to what I might be missing?
[01:33] <Flannel> sloopy: If you'd like to discuss the issue further, you're welcome to come to #ubuntu-ops, if not.  Drop it.
[01:33] <bulio> but I keep getting:  Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.
[01:33] <bulio> how can I fix this??
[01:34] <ranok> bulio: check out #vbox
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> almark1: probably because the TCP/IP stakc is better than windows...  and the stack and overall OS is based on unix-like principles
[01:34] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: work?
[01:34] <raylu> AndreasMadrid: and you should change those permissions for /usr/local/bin asap
[01:34] <ganeshredcobra> hai i just to tried to change my session to kde but there is no option in the log in screen
[01:35] <Formode> Hello, how does one discover the location of all of the files for an application on a UNIX system?
[01:35] <ganeshredcobra> plz help me
[01:35] <Llanowyn> Do any of you guys have any ideas on how I can fix my touchpad issue? Is there another channel that is geared specifically to ubuntu laptop issues?
[01:35] <raylu> ganeshredcobra: do you have kde installed?
[01:35] <AndreasMadrid> raylu yes, changes already undone. Thank you
[01:35] <kitche> onetinsoldier: the tcp/ip stack in linux and windows is the same I do believe but I do know linux is trying to make their own stack
[01:35] <ganeshredcobra> yes
[01:35] <ganeshredcobra> i installed it via sysnaptic
[01:35] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[01:36] <almark1> onetinsoldier: they MS <--- need to fix that ;)
[01:36] <ranok> there should be a kde.desktop
[01:36] <onetinsoldier> kitche: ha! windows and linux tcp/ip stack the same..? i think not
[01:36] <ganeshredcobra> gnome.desktop  ssh.desktop
[01:36] <almark1> thanks for the answer onetinsoldier
[01:36] <ranok> kitche: BANN WRONG
[01:36] <ganeshredcobra> this is the op
[01:36] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: then you did install it properly
[01:36] <MindVirus> kitche, yeah, sorry, that's wrong.
[01:36] <almark1> well I have to say linux just rocks anyway
[01:36] <onetinsoldier> almark1: you're welcome
[01:36] <kitche> onetinsoldier: well they both have BSD tcp/ip stack
[01:36] <MindVirus> They are both POSIX-compliant.
[01:36] <MindVirus> That's it.
[01:36] <ganeshredcobra> hw should i
[01:37] <almark1> and compiz is amazing nuff said
[01:37] <raylu> !who | ganeshredcobra
[01:37] <marnanel> kitche: that's just not true.
[01:37] <urchin> byby
[01:37] <marnanel> kitche: BSD has the BSD stack.  Linux's stack was created separately.
[01:38] <MindVirus> This is the biggest channel on Freenode.
[01:38] <ranok> kitche: you just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper
[01:38] <Flannel> ranok: Did you have a support question?
[01:38] <ranok> MindVirus: crazy, but also makes sense
[01:39] <onetinsoldier> kitche: i have seen messages on the linux-kernel mailing list, and many times it has been discussed how they were, once again, changing things in the tcp/ip stack. utils like xprobe, xprobe2 and nmap have trouble keeping with identifying the linux OS kernel version in their scans.
[01:39] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: **didn;e
[01:39] <ranok> **didn't
[01:39] <ranok> Flannel: nope, just here helping out others
[01:40] <urchin> do not on what you people are doing
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[01:40] <kitche> onetinsoldier: like I said it's BSD tcp/ip stack but they changed it
[01:40] <onetinsoldier> kitche: ok, i hear you and understand
[01:41] <almark1> does the apt-get install java setup java for me? Or do I have to do other configurations
[01:41] <joanki123> i've been getting these weird error messages lately:  there is not enough room on the disk to open your file
[01:41] <joanki123> even after i reboot i get this
[01:41] <ganeshredcobra> hello
[01:41] <ranok> almark1: try apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[01:41] <onetinsoldier> ganeshredcobra: howdy
[01:41] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: did you install kbuntu-desktop?
[01:41] <joanki123> my /tmp shoudl clear at every reboot so i don't know why this is happening
[01:41] <kitche> onetinsoldier: just like Windows is changing their tcp/ip stack sometime but the code is a derivative of BSD code is that better :)
[01:41] <Psi-Jack> Wow, ext3 is REAAAAAAAALLY slow at writing large amounts of small files!
[01:42] <Formode> Hello, how does one discover the location of all of the files for an application on a UNIX system?
[01:42] <urchin> dad why is my name on her
[01:42] <almark1> ranok: that is what I did, just need to know do I have to config something?
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[01:42] <onetinsoldier> kitche: roger that. windows just doesn't get changed nearly as often
[01:42] <ranok> ganeshredcobra: yes
[01:42] <onetinsoldier> kitche: at least notfor end users
[01:43] <roukoun> hi everyone
[01:43] <onetinsoldier> hi!
[01:43] <ranok> hi
[01:44]  * onetinsoldier need to leave to boot into custom kernel-2.6.28-rc8-git2 to check it out! brb
[01:44] <urchin> dad
[01:44] <bazhang> urchin, this is a support channel
[01:45] <bazhang> urchin, did you have a ubuntu support question? if not, then please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:45] <roukoun> i have a ssh connection between two pcs and Totem media player intsalled on both... when i try to launch a movie(located in server's HD) from the client i get the error: "Error: Can't open display:"  . any help appreciated
[01:46] <urchin> ok
[01:46] <urchin>  why?
[01:46] <ranok> roukoun: are you running it over SSH?
[01:46] <joeb3_> roukoun, ssh -X remote.   That will export display.  SSH must be setup for X forwarding.
[01:46] <aeosynth> I want to edit my gnome main menu more than the 'main menu' app will let me, so I went into gconf editor. Under apps/panel/global there's a disabled_applets option, but in order to use it I need to know what my applet IIDs are. Where can I find this information?
[01:46] <Supavisah> I installed gedit.. and well lets see I can't manage to find it?
[01:47] <joanki123> i've been getting these weird error messages lately:  there is not enough room on the disk to open your file
[01:47] <joanki123> can anyone help me?
[01:47] <joanki123> ubuntu doesn't seem to like my lapto0p very much
[01:47] <Flannel> Supavisah: just type 'gedit' in a terminal to open it.  Or if you want the location, type 'which gedit' and it'll give you the path
[01:47] <roukoun> ranok: yes
[01:47] <joanki123> never has -
[01:47] <Supavisah> Thanks
[01:47] <Supavisah> I would of thought it would of put a shortcut.
[01:47] <roukoun> joeb3_: let me try... tnx
[01:47] <derchris> Supavisah, it has one.
[01:48] <Supavisah> derchris, where?
[01:48] <derchris> Supavisah, gnome ?
[01:48]  * Supavisah nods.
[01:48] <yowshi> what with this distro upgrade?
[01:48] <ranok> roukoun: might be easier to mount the server drive over SSH (Places -> connect to server), then run using the local totoem
[01:48] <derchris> Supavisah, Accessories -> Text Editor
[01:49] <Supavisah> oh, I didn't realise that was it - I thought it'd be under "gedit"
[01:49] <Supavisah> derchris, any experience with setting up syntax highlighting?
[01:49] <Kalid> cyanicus: knock, knock...
[01:49] <aeosynth> where do i find a list of gnome applet OAFIIDs?
[01:50] <derchris> Supavisah, it should have it by default
[01:50] <ranok> Supavisah: you can hit: view -> hightmode to select a highlighting scheme
[01:50] <Supavisah> Thanks.
[01:51] <Skarpz> I have kde, I was wondering what might make my computer slow sometimes? There's something running and I don't know what it is and it's almost making my computer freeze up for a bit at a time. Running minimal hardware.
[01:51] <aeosynth> is there a more powerful gnome main menu editor than the default one in Ubuntu 8.10?
[01:51] <mewshi> I have a question:  What are the advantages/disadvantages of using 64-bit Ubuntu instead of 32-bit Ubuntu?
[01:52] <roukoun> ranok: is there any command to launch "Connect to server..." application?
[01:52] <ranok> aeosynth: you mean alacarte?
[01:52] <yowshi> what with this distro upgrade?
[01:53] <Tauop> hi
[01:53] <bazhang> !upgrade > yowshi
[01:53] <aeosynth> do i? i want to get rid of the 'about gnome', 'about ubuntu' icons
[01:53] <yowshi> bazhang: i have already upgraded to intrepid but the update button says something about a partial upgrade
[01:53] <Tauop> Can anyone give me a link on "avahi" and all things that works on Network on ubuntu pls ? I can't ping the gateway who give me an ip via dhcp... and I think I have a big problem.
[01:54] <ranok> roukoun: SSHFS is a fuse FS
[01:54] <bazhang> yowshi, are there packages being held back or did the upgrade itself fail, causing breakage
[01:54] <roukoun> joeb3_: i connected using the command: "ssh -l <username> -X <Server;s IP>" and then i gave the command: " totem /path/to/avi_file" bit i get this error: "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. Can't open display:"
[01:55] <yowshi> bazhang: the upgrade didnt fail i upgraded early november shortly after intrepid went public and i dont know if packaged are being or were being held back
[01:55] <joeb3_> roukoun, does the local system have xauth installed?
[01:55] <ranok> roukoun: you don't want to watch a movie over SSH+X
[01:55] <Gnea> roukoun: are you high?
[01:56] <bazhang> yowshi, what about updating and upgrading the packages now; do you get any errors, if so paste.ubuntu.com with them and give us the url
[01:56] <roukoun> Gnea: sorry?
[01:56] <yowshi> bazhang: umm as soon as i go to update the upgrade screen comes up
[01:56] <Gnea> roukoun: you want to watch a movie over a network connection?
[01:56] <roukoun> Gnea: yes
[01:57] <roukoun> joeb3_: yes
[01:57] <ranok> roukoun: gvfs-mount sftp://server.name.tld
[01:57] <bazhang> yowshi, using synaptic? try from the terminal
[01:57] <Llanowyn> Hello all, I was wondering if someone could help me disable my touchpad without also disabling the left and right click buttons on my laptop.  If I go into Gnomebutton->System->Preferences->Mouse->Touchpad tab->uncheck the Enable Touchpad option I lose my ability to click.  My laptop also has a nub in the keyboard that still works for mousing around if I uncheck the enable touchpad option.
[01:57] <roukoun> ranok: i dont have ftp server installed
[01:57] <ranok> roukoun: it'll use SSH
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> mewshi: 64-bit will recognize a larger amount of RAM, is more efficient for some types of calculations, and usually would be combined with multiple cores and be better for multi-threaded applications.
[01:58] <Skarpz> Anyone able to help me?
[01:58] <yowshi> bazhang: which apt-get command am i supposed to use to make it install updates?
[01:58] <roukoun> ranok: oh.. i didnt know... let me try it!!! :)
[01:58] <mewshi> So... if I just have a pentium-dual core and just use it for regular use, no need...?
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> mewshi: Will that even support 64-bit?
[01:59] <provo1> i've tried looking but does anybody know how to open another window for another server? i'm using xchat
[01:59] <mewshi> Yeah, it does
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> mewshi: ah.  Well, you're likely to get some performance improvement, but it's certainly not necessary.
[01:59] <mewshi> provo1, go to XChat -> new -> server tab... is that what you wanted?
[01:59] <eseven73> provo1: ctrl + t
[02:00] <provo1> so i can open mulitiple servers simulataneously
[02:00] <eseven73> yep
[02:00] <yowshi> bazhang: synpatic seems to be handling the updates
[02:00] <ranok> provo1: CTRL - T
[02:00] <bazhang> yowshi sudo apt-get update  followed by sudo apt-get upgrade  paste.ubuntu.com with any errors (do NOT paste here)
[02:00] <provo1> easy enough
[02:00] <provo1> thanks !
[02:00] <derchris> mewshi, but it won't support the full EM64T instructions set
[02:00] <Fjss> I have the intel 965 chipset, is there a way to check and see if my drivers are up to date?
[02:00] <Skarpz> provo1, Xchat -> network list
[02:00] <provo1> got it, ctrl+t did the trick
[02:01] <chupy> i have a question i have gnome and kde i use both but when i active compiz in kde with the transparent cube i can see the gnome desktop WTF? what can i do?
[02:01] <onetinsoldier> dang... no alsaconf inubuntu?
[02:01] <ranok> ;P
[02:01] <ranok> I WIN!
[02:01] <roukoun> ranok: the local pc doesnt recognise the gvfs-mount and there isnt in the repositories. it uses xandros
[02:01] <ranok> oh
[02:01] <ranok> look up FUSE
[02:01] <ranok> and SSHFS
[02:01] <ranok> might be easier to just scp it to the local machine
[02:01] <eeeeeee> hell O
[02:01] <ranok> play and rm
[02:02] <joeb3_> roukoun, after you connect, type "echo $DISPLAY <enter>".  Does it return localhost:10.0 ?
[02:02] <Skarpz> I'm in kde, how can I see the processes running to see what's making my computer slow or what's running?
[02:02] <tritium> !enter | ranok
[02:03] <halemartian12> can anyone tell me how to use external drive in clonezilla server?
[02:03] <ranok> *sigh*
[02:03] <Susie> I have applied a patch to the nvtv source code and now I am trying to compile it (so I can use the software with this patch). I get an error during the ./configure stage which says "configure: error: pci library required" the lines directly before it are "checking for pci_init in -lpci... no" and "checking for pci_init in -lpciutils... no" How do I fix this so I can build the source code?
[02:04] <halemartian12> it says to use absolute paths and also not to use /media /mnt etc
[02:04] <roukoun> joeb3_: yes
[02:04] <ranok> well
[02:04] <halemartian12> anyone familiar with clonezilla?
[02:04] <ranok> I'm off
[02:04] <ranok> ttyl
[02:04] <mewshi> so, if I already have 32-bit on here, do I need to bother installing 64-bit?
[02:04] <Omoikane__> For some reason firefox started blinking and flashing. It lost it's title bar too. Not sure why/
[02:04] <ranok> mewshi: I don't think you need it
[02:05] <joeb3_> roukoun, can you run xterm when connected. (just to test)
[02:05] <ranok> or xclock!
[02:05] <mewshi> also, if I did want to upgrade it, is there a way I could do it without reinstalling, just, like, change an apt line or something?
[02:05] <derchris> Susie, sudo apt-get install pciutils pciutils-dev
[02:06] <Skarpz> hmm
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> mewshi: you can't get an actual 64-bit userspace environment unless you install the OS from scratch
[02:06] <Quagmire> Hello guys, I've had some trouble with a DVD drive on my laptop becoming unresponsive when I try to load a DVD. I rebooted to Vista64 and the drive ran perfectly 3 differnt times after it had become unresponsive in ubuntu. Then I tried to boot ubuntu and it refused to load at all and gave me some error messages (which I copied down.) I have 8.10 64bit installed and I'm running it through a Wubi folder. Everything was running smooth as 
[02:07] <mewshi> onetinsoldier, so... I can't just have like a 64-bit apt repo, and install from there? :(
[02:07] <onetinsoldier> mewshi: well, there may be a way and i don't know what it is, but it's my understanding that it'd be a pain
[02:07] <Susie> derchris: This worked! Thanks. :)
[02:07] <onetinsoldier> mewshi: no.. definitely not
[02:07] <roukoun> joeb3_: no... i get: "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication <enter> xterm Xt: Can't open display: localhost:10.0"
[02:08] <mewshi> Ok, well... what kind of performance gain would I get?
[02:08] <mewshi> Would it be able to transcode video faster?
[02:08] <Skarpz> maybe I'll just post in a forum since I got no response for my end
[02:08] <Vantrax> mewshi, yes, but only 5-10%
[02:08] <GeoMus> why Iptables freed rules after 1 min ??
[02:08] <Omoikane__> Has anyone heard of firefox doing that?
[02:08] <Theeb> i installed virtualbox from add/remove and it didnt come with  guestaddition :\
[02:08] <mewshi> Hm... 5-10%... That... that might be acceptable, actually ^-^
[02:09] <roukoun> joeb3_: any idea?
[02:10] <onetinsoldier> mewshi: hmmm, i can't answer that very well. sorry. someone else probably can. of course, 64-bit gets you a lot more memory address space. that's at least one benefit(more space to address System RAM and Video RAM allocation area).
[02:10] <joeb3_> roukoun, looking
[02:10] <derchris> mewshi, have a look here. not up2date, but a good overview. http://www.linuxera.com/content/view/844/2/
[02:11] <chupy> i have a question i have gnome and kde i use both but when i active compiz in kde with the transparent cube i can see the gnome desktop WTF? what can i do?
[02:11] <GeoMus> any idea .?
[02:11] <kURAPIKA> BUENAS
[02:11] <kURAPIKA> necesito ayuda
[02:11] <bazhang> !es | kURAPIKA
[02:12] <Crewsr3> Can I get a few pointers on CLI - one is there a way to pause the display of what ever command you type, so if you do an apt-get update but you want to see the list of servers without scrolling back
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> chupy Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. we dont accept it of our users.. Please keep the room family friendly
[02:13] <Susie> Okay, I am now using nvtv with a patch for my particular Intel graphics card. How can I configure it to clone my desktop to my TV through S-video?
[02:13] <GeoMus> why Iptables freed rules after some time ?? any idea ??
[02:13] <chupy> Jack_Sparrow: ¬¬
[02:13] <naknomik>  I am trying to mount the system share from a windows machine, c$. When I use smbclient, I can do: smbclient //hostname/c$ -U user then enter password and can read/write entire C: drive of the windows machine, but when I try to mount the C$ share, it gives error.
[02:13] <provo> how do i find a staff member on freenode?
[02:14] <Vantrax> GeoMus, I could be wrong but the iptable should get refreshed periodically... i dont know about the rules tho
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> provo /j #freenode        of if #ubuntu related  #Ubuntu-ops
[02:14] <provo1> i'm trying to get rid of my other nickname provo  cause i forgot the password for that nick
[02:15] <GeoMus> Vantrax: I know that Iptables refreshed after some time but why iptables lost rules ???
[02:15] <onetinsoldier> i just install a  custom compiled newer version kernel. no sound now. plain debian had alsaconf, but ubuntu doesn't seem to have this. how i can reconfigure alsa for my new kernel?
[02:15] <onetinsoldier> install=installed*\
[02:15] <Vantrax> GeoMus, what model of router/switch you using?
[02:15] <derchris> naknomik, what mount command you used ?
[02:16] <Vantrax> onetinsoldier, its using pulseaudio i belive
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> Vantrax: ahhh! i see
[02:16] <GeoMus> Vantrax : server
[02:16] <naknomik> derchris: mount -t cifs //hostname/c\$ /tmp/windowscdrive
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> i will have to have a look
[02:16] <mewshi> That article is 2 years old, though...
[02:17] <Quagmire> Jack_Sparrow any chance you have any words of wisdom on my unresponsive DVD drive?
[02:17] <naknomik> derchris: -o credfile=secretfile.txt,rw
[02:17] <onetinsoldier> Vantrax: thanks for the hint
[02:18] <Vantrax> onetinsoldier, np
[02:18] <derchris> naknomik, /c\$ ?
[02:19] <defn> Crap, could someone help me fix my damn CD drive?
[02:19] <Vantrax> mewshi, the article is old, and based on a beta build
[02:19] <gbear14275> anyone have experience with pulseaudio installs on 64bit?
[02:19] <defn> I cannot get anything to mount on it
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> defn Not when you ask like that..
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohm > defn
[02:20] <defn> and I accidentally ran 'sudo ln -sf /dev/hdX /dev/cdrom' without reading it
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ohmy > defn
[02:20] <mewshi> Yeah, that's my problem... I was wondering if anyone could help me decide to update it...
[02:20] <Phase> On my ubuntu install (doesn't happen on Windows or Debian) in Firefox when I right click a link, there is a good chance it won't pop up the right click menu and it'll just randomly select an option (or so it seems) and it'll do whatever action. I've tried this on a 100% fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10 and Firefox (without addons), any ideas/known issue/fixes?
[02:20] <Vantrax> mewshi, depending on the application and the task you can get nothing, or up to 10%
[02:20] <joeb3_> roukoun, do you have a .Xauthority file in you home dir?
[02:20] <derchris> naknomik, and i think the credfile is wrong. should be credentials=
[02:20] <mewshi> Phase,  I have the same problem.  Just hold down the right button, that seems to help
[02:21] <[e]Lement> Phase, I cannot say I've replicated your issue.
[02:21] <[e]Lement> Might be the mouse / mouse driver?
[02:21] <gbear14275> lol, Jack_Sparrow you are still here helping people out I see... So from your earlier suggestion I take it you were helping me to setup a test environment?  Or were you suggesting I work within a 32 environment?
[02:21] <Vantrax> defn, try doing a sudo fdisk -l and working out which value is the correct one
[02:21] <Phase> mewshi, I'll try that, thanks.
[02:21] <mewshi> Vantrax, would you recommend it?  I do a lot of video encoding, music listening, web surfing, and writing... would it be worth the small hassle>
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gbear14275 Either, your choice
[02:21] <Phase> [e]Lement, Well, On debian/windows/arch/anything but ubuntu it works fine.
[02:21] <Crewsr3> when I'm in the cli (from going to Ctrl-Alt-F2) is there a way to run a command and then scroll up or pause the output
[02:22] <Vantrax> mewshi, with video encoding yes as its cpu driven, for the rest no
[02:22] <[e]Lement> Odd
[02:22] <eseven73> Crewsr3:
[02:22] <eseven73> | less
[02:22] <pckchem> Phase, can you please submit a bug against firefox in the ubuntu bugtracker launchpad?
[02:22] <pckchem> phase: launchpad.net
[02:22] <Vantrax> mewshi, how effective it will be is based on how cpu intensive the process is
[02:22] <defn> Vantrax: It's SCSI, so I did a ln -sf to /dev/scd0
[02:22] <Phase> pckchem, Does it require I register first?
[02:22] <onetinsoldier> Phase: i haven't encountered this... fresh install eh? interesting. i have done a few right-clicks on links, but perhaps i should try some more
[02:22] <defn> Vantrax: that wont mount either though :\
[02:22] <roukoun> joeb3_: yes
[02:22] <pckchem> Phase: Yes,
[02:22] <eseven73> Crewsr3: like 'ls -a | less' would allow you to pause the scrolling
[02:22] <mewshi> So, Vantrax, would you do it?
[02:22] <Vantrax> defn, that doesnt sound good
[02:22] <Phase> onetinsoldier, Yeah
[02:23] <defn> Vantrax: ?
[02:23] <Phase> pckchem, Then no I can't, at least not at the moment.. thanks for that link though.
[02:23] <defn> err I linked it to /cdrom
[02:23] <joeb3_> roukoun, try removing that file before connecting.
[02:23] <defn> ln -sf /dev/scd0 /cdrom
[02:23] <Vantrax> mewshi, if your doing alot of video encoding sure, if its only now and then no
[02:23] <defn> im going crazy, sorry, lack of sleep
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> Phase: you can always check the bugtracker. but i am pretty new to unbuntu. i don't have an exact link to it.
[02:23] <Vantrax> defn that should have worked
[02:23] <joeb3_> roukoun, also make sure you have free space in your /home folder.
[02:23] <Vantrax> did you remove the previous link?
[02:24]  * [e]Lement slaps onetinsoldier for saying unbuntu
[02:24] <defn> Vantrax: no, where do I find it
[02:24] <\\`oot> Hi
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> [e]Lement: hey... oops
[02:24] <onetinsoldier> Ubuntu!
[02:24] <vincent> hi
[02:24] <[e]Lement> I have someone I know who calls it "you-bun-tu"
[02:24] <Iowahc> hy there, anyone knows how to connect to a NFS Share over Places -> Connect to server ... ?
[02:24] <[e]Lement> And I always stress the Oooo sound... oooo-bunn-toooooo
[02:25] <pckchem> Phase: Thats fine. Thanks in advance.
[02:25] <Quagmire> I say it that way alos
[02:25] <Crewsr3> eseven73, Thanks so much, I knew there must be a way.  I'm trying to get better at CLI and this will help
[02:25] <jrib> !pronounce | [e]Lement
[02:25] <\\`oot> does anyone use Gnome-art-ng?
[02:25] <Phase> pckchem, dev?
[02:25] <quizme> what's the channel for compiz?
[02:25] <onetinsoldier> [e]Lement: if i were you, i would too.. the way the name looks that's the way it sounds to me too
[02:25] <[e]Lement> jrib, I've been pronouncing it correctly for years.
[02:25] <eseven73> Crewsr3: np
[02:25] <defn> what is /dev/shm?
[02:25] <Crewsr3> Was anyone in here at UDS this last week?
[02:25] <Quagmire> #compiz-Fusion
[02:25] <Crewsr3> I've been watching the video's on Youtube
[02:25] <jrib> [e]Lement: ooboontoo
[02:25]  * onetinsoldier is known for not being the best typist in the world
[02:26] <Vantrax> defn, should be in dev
[02:26] <[e]Lement> Yes
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > Crewsr3
[02:26] <\\`oot> does anyone use Gnome-art-ng?
[02:26] <[e]Lement> I have a weird accent
[02:26] <[e]Lement> I say the word Bun as Boon.
[02:26] <defn> Vantrax: I removed it and set up scd0 again, now it says I need to specify a filesystem type
[02:26] <Vantrax> defn, run a ls -alF
[02:26] <vincent> hi
[02:26] <Vantrax> defn, that should be done in fstab
[02:26] <Crewsr3> Jack_Sparrow, Noted, thanks
[02:27] <defn> where i fstab, sorry for my noobishness
[02:27] <roukoun> joeb3_: it worked!!!!!! thanks a lot :)
[02:27] <onetinsoldier> defn:  /etc/fstab
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> defn /etc
[02:27] <defn> im there, okay
[02:27] <Iowahc> hy there, anyone knows how to connect to a NFS Share over Places -> Connect to server ... ?
[02:27] <defn> Vantrax: this is what's in my fstab for scd0
[02:28] <Phase> pckchem, In the process of registering now
[02:28] <defn>  /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[02:28] <defn> is the 'user' the problem there?
[02:28] <Vantrax> defn, no thats right
[02:28] <Vantrax> hrm
[02:28] <defn> when i specify the type explicitly Vantrax -- it tells me to type dmesg | tail
[02:29] <defn> [ 1112.315178] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[02:29] <[e]Lement> Wow, boy I read that as dmesg | fail
[02:29] <defn> [ 1115.127049] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[02:29] <defn> [e]Lement: haha
[02:29] <progre55> hi everybody
[02:29] <Guest48450> hi
[02:29]  * [e]Lement wishes Ubuntu would give syntax errors in LOLSpeak
[02:30] <Phase> [e]Lement, Eww.
[02:30] <progre55> please somebody help, I have this usb-modem from Option, and I cant make it work under ubuntu (
[02:30] <defn> I just dropped the cd back into my drive and it says: unable to mount drive, disc doesnt not implement mount
[02:30] <defn> it should be noted that I'm running xmonad
[02:30] <defn> I seem to not have problems with this in gnome
[02:30] <Phase> "There is no project named 'Ubuntu' registered in Launchpad"
[02:30] <defn> is there some system im not bringing up that it needs?
[02:30] <Phase> ......
[02:31] <Vantrax> defn, sorry mate you've hit the end of my knowladge there on that bit
[02:31] <rww> Phase: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[02:31] <rww> !enter | defn
[02:31] <Vantrax> defn, id say hit up the forums
[02:32] <Phase> rww, Yeah I just typed it in, but odd it said that when I tried to search for it.
[02:32] <progre55> please somebody help, I have this usb-modem from Option, and I cant make it work under ubuntu. I have configured this usb_modeswitcher, and it actually switches the usb stick from usb-flash to modem, but does not connect. appreciate any help!
[02:32] <Iowahc> hy there, anyone knows how to connect to a NFS Share over Places -> Connect to server ... ?
[02:32] <[e]Lement> progre55, if no one is answering you here try utilizing the forums.
[02:32] <aeos> how do i become root? i can do it in a terminal but then i'm still normal in nautilus
[02:32] <[e]Lement> aeos, open a terminal and type sudo nautilus
[02:32] <jtaji> aeos: gksudo nautilus
[02:33] <jtaji> always use gksudo, not sudo for gui apps
[02:33] <[e]Lement> Or gksudo nautilus
[02:33] <[e]Lement> Personal preference I suppose.
[02:33] <rww> !gksudo | [e]Lement
[02:33] <jtaji> no, sudo can screw things up with gui apps
[02:33] <jrib> aeos: you shouldn't ever need to run nautilus as root.  What do you need to do?
[02:33] <[e]Lement> Never had a problem before.
[02:33] <[e]Lement> Just verbose debugging
[02:34] <aeos> thanks you guys, its working
[02:34] <Guidosz> asl
[02:34] <defn> I appreciate the help Vantrax -- I also have to say I had a laugh when I was warned for saying the word 'crap', and then was told to work on the length of my lines in irc -- more criticism than help
[02:34] <jrib> ...
[02:34] <aeos> jrib, i want to edit the system part of main menu
[02:34] <defn> ...
[02:34] <sliderz> Could someone explain to me what I'm doing wrong with ./configure ?   I'm new to this, trying to read..but I'm at a loss, should there be a file that it points to?  I have downloaded a program, and am running ./configure in the programs dir, but I know I am doing something wrong...
[02:34] <Phase> Heh, Launchpad should open a bug tracker somewhere else about itself.
[02:34] <jrib> aeos: right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[02:34] <Vantrax> defn, its just because there is a ton of text here
[02:35] <Phase> Timeout error -- Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[02:35]  * Phase waits :)
[02:35] <matthew12> I
[02:35] <[e]Lement> sliderz, you have to run it inside of a terminal
[02:35] <aeos> jrib: that only lets you edit preferences and administration
[02:35] <Vantrax> defn, so longer lines and less entries are easier to read and keep track off in big channels
[02:36] <FiReSTaRT> ok fairly stupid question, for a convert
[02:36] <jrib> aeos: it lets you edit the actual system menu as well.  What exactly are you doing?
[02:36] <matthew12> I'm sorry if this is chat is not for this type of inquiry, but I was just trying to get an opinion on whether or not it's worth it to upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid.
[02:36] <sliderz> [e]Lement I know that, but I'm just not sure why it is not working...
[02:36] <FiReSTaRT> if the person downloads the intrepid image and burns it on a dvd, can they still boot and install from it?
[02:36] <[e]Lement> There's one thing that ticked me off on that upgrade, matthew12.  My compiz-fusion configuration was completely reset back to defaults.  I was ticked.
[02:36] <aeos> jrib: i'm getting rid of 'about ubuntu', and 'about gnome'. i don't see how to get rid of them using alacarte
[02:36] <jrib> aeos: ah, that's true
[02:37] <sliderz> it gives me, configure: error: No lex program found.
[02:37] <[e]Lement> matthew12, and there were a few apps I wanted to upgrade that Hardy would not be upgrading.  Azureus/Vuze for example.
[02:37] <sliderz> It is probably my fault...
[02:37] <rww> matthew12: depends on what you need. If everything is working fine for you on hardy, and you don't need any newer apps, i'd say don't bother upgrading. If you're having hardware compatibility problems, or need newer software, try intrepid.
[02:37] <Phase> [e]Lement, Only thing that ticked me off is compiz is on there to begin with :P
[02:37] <[e]Lement> sliderz, are you sure you have all depencies installed for the item in which you are installing.
[02:37] <[e]Lement> Phase, I run an older system that works pretty awesome with Compiz...
[02:37] <rww> matthew12: also note that Hardy is a Long Term Support release and Intrepid isn't, so if you care about that sort of thing, stick with Hardy.
[02:37] <sliderz> [e]Lement, I wouldn't know how to check...it's basically a terminal addon that I'm trying to install
[02:38] <Phase> [e]Lement, Oh my computer can definitely handle it, I just find it useless, lol
[02:38] <jtaji> FiReSTaRT: yes it will work fine
[02:38] <Hardhead> So, this is a stupid/basic question, but is there a way to make terminal bring up my last command by hitting shift-up on the keyboard, similar to how Putty works?
[02:38] <FiReSTaRT> thanks jtaji
[02:38] <Phase> Hardhead, 'up' works for me..
[02:38] <[e]Lement> Phase, I like eye-candy I guess.  It's fun to have my friends freak out when I rotate a cube. "My Vista can't do that..." =)
[02:38] <matthew12> [e]Lement, I don't mind resetting things, I just was wondering if it was really that big of a difference, I may need newer software however, lately Hardy has been inexplicably crashing on a daily basis.
[02:38] <rww> Hardhead: try just the up arrow :/?
[02:38] <Phase> [e]Lement, lol
[02:38] <Hardhead> Hah!  i tried cntrl-up, shift-up, and alt-up, but not just up.
[02:38] <Hardhead> Thanks.
[02:38] <[e]Lement> matthew12, I am happy with it so far.
[02:39] <Phase> Hardhead, yep :P
[02:39] <gerbil> whats the best way to remove an older kernel
[02:39] <[e]Lement> sliderz, you may want to see if the developer has any useful documentation
[02:39] <jrib> gerbil: uninstall the corresponding package in synaptic
[02:39] <phpmonk> My usb disk not being detected, but shows in system info as scsi07
[02:39] <sliderz> [e]>element, that is what confused me was the documentation said to ./configure  then make then make install...seemed easy enough... :P guess not
[02:39] <matthew12> [e]Lement and rww thanks for your input
[02:40] <sliderz> oh I see...dependencies.
[02:40] <sandro1> anyone on that could maybe help out with a desktop effects problem?
[02:40] <[e]Lement> That's how most manual installations run, sliderz.  So maybe there is something else.  You may be able to contact them.
[02:40] <[e]Lement> No problem matthew12.
[02:40] <rww> !anyone | sandro1
[02:40] <sliderz> thank you [e]Lement, I learn something new every day :D that probably could be useful, hehe
[02:40] <\\`oot> Q: What's the best way to manage themes in 8.10?
[02:40] <Hardhead> OK, another question.  I'm running it on my Thinkpad.  For some reason, the three left-click on the three button section above the trackpad doesn't work the same as the left-click on the two-button section below it.  Basically, I can't seem to click-drag using the above-the-keyboard buttons.  Is there a way to change that?
[02:40] <[e]Lement> sliderz, I only know because I also learned that way.  Lol
[02:40] <jrib> \\`oot: system -> preferences -> appearance
[02:40] <\\`oot> mmm
[02:41] <sliderz> Well I sure do appreciate any help...because I am a long way from where I want to be.
[02:41] <[e]Lement> \\`oot, I use the Emerald Theme Manager.  These are higher-end themes tho'.
[02:41] <lukman_> tes 123
[02:41] <[e]Lement> gnome-look.org has a bunch of themes for Emerald.
[02:41] <\\`oot> I have a sweet vis card
[02:41] <jtaji> Hardhead: hmm works fine on my t61
[02:41] <[e]Lement> MIne ubuntu has an Aero theme
[02:41] <\\`oot> I tried Gnome-art-ng
[02:41] <[e]Lement> =O
[02:41] <\\`oot> but it don't work right
[02:41] <jtaji> Hardhead: you might have a look at thinkwiki.org
[02:42] <quizme> how do you customize your shell prompt ?
[02:42] <eye_pee> alright. I have a question. hate to ask for help, but here it is:
[02:42] <\\`oot> Where can I get more,,,,"nicer" themes?
[02:42] <phpmonk> Q: Can anyone tell me how to configure my USB disk so I can see contents?
[02:42] <jrib> !themes > \\`oot
[02:42] <sliderz> [e]ement, so if the dependencies listed have bad URL's, it is probably best to pass up on anyways, safe assumtion?
[02:42] <gerbil> when i remove a kernel is it safe to completely remove the restricted modules in synaptic?
[02:42] <jrib> phpmonk: what filesystem ?
[02:42] <phpmonk> vfat
[02:42] <[e]Lement> sliderz, most likely.
[02:43] <sliderz> ty
[02:43] <Hardhead> Huh.  I have a R61.  It's weird.  The buttons above the pad seem to click, but not hold.  It always acts like I clicked it and let up.  It doesn't do that when I'm in Windows so I know it's not a hardware issue.
[02:43] <[e]Lement> sliderz, see if someone created a newer alternative to what you are trying to install.
[02:43] <jrib> gerbil: for the corresponding kernel version, yes
[02:43] <jtaji> quizme: it's defined in your .bashrc, take a look here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/
[02:43] <jrib> phpmonk: just plug it in
[02:43] <eye_pee> I need to setup grub to boot from an external usb cdrom drive. the BIOS does not boot from it automatically. it's very old. how do i go about setting up grub to give me this option?
[02:43] <rww> gerbil: as long as the kernel you're removing isn't the one you're running, removing the kernel and anything related to it (like headers or source or restricted modules) is fine
[02:43] <\\`oot> awesome!  thanks
[02:43] <sliderz> Ok, it was basically a hotkey to a terminal that overlayed 'ala quake terminal or something of the sort..
[02:43] <sandro1> Hey everyone, I'm trying to enable desktop effects on my system, but I get the "compositing is not supported on your system" message.  I've tried different drivers, different versions of kde, gnome, etc.  Does anyone know if this is an nvidia compatibility issue? 8800 gts
[02:43] <quizme> jtaji thank you
[02:43] <quizme> jtaji: thank you
[02:44] <phpmonk> jrib: I did but it only shows in "Computer" but I cannot access : Error: Volume cannot mount
[02:44] <jrib> sandro1: use Hardware Drivers to enable the nvidia drivers
[02:44] <rathel> How do I add ~/bin to my paths?
[02:44] <sliderz> [e]Lement, just trying to figure it out
[02:44] <sliderz> lol
[02:44] <jrib> rathel: create ~/bin, logout, log back in
[02:44] <onetinsoldier> i just installed a  custom compiled newer version kernel. no sound now. plain debian had alsaconf, but ubuntu doesn't seem to have this. how i can reconfigure alsa, or pulseaudio for my new kernel? (sorry Vantrax but after looking through some docs i need more help if possible)
[02:44] <sandro1> jrib: yeah, did that ... tried every version of the driver available
[02:44] <jrib> sandro1: you don't need every version, you just need one.  Is it running now?
[02:44] <rathel> jrib: ah lol Thanks didn't log out yet.
[02:45] <gerbil> thanks
[02:45] <sliderz> I am just amazed that I got my nvidia and sound drivers working, that was 3am last night :D
[02:45] <jrib> phpmonk: did you try mounting it manually?
[02:45] <dochaven> sandro1: did you try the drivers from the nvidia website
[02:45] <provo> I was reading about this one app in ubuntu that you can listen to free streaming radio, anybody know the name of it?
[02:45] <[e]Lement> Sound is pretty good in Ubuntu.  Not too many problem, usually.
[02:45] <[e]Lement> Video can be tricky sometimes.
[02:45] <sandro1> I know, I mean I gave every version a try :) Right now I'm on the most recent release
[02:45] <phpmonk> jrib: Ya by editing /etc/fstab but still fail
[02:45] <jrib> sandro1: are you running the nvidia drivers now?
[02:45] <sandro1> yeah
[02:45] <eye_pee> I need to setup grub to boot from an external usb cdrom drive. the BIOS does not boot from it automatically. it's very old. how do i go about setting up grub to give me this option?
[02:45] <IrishDavid> hey, does anyone know if it's possible to write a script file that can execute remote commands through an ssh connection?
[02:45] <sliderz> [e]Lement, I tried to be 'safe' and not install the newest nvidia driver...turns out thats the only one that would work :P
[02:45] <jrib> phpmonk: failed how?  Just run mount in a shell and see what happens
[02:45] <quizme> is there a bash prompt customizer gui ?
[02:45] <Flannel> phpmonk: Many of the media players can listen to streaming radio, do you remember anything else about that particular one?
[02:46] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: i beleive it's enabled by putting a line in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:46] <jrib> IrishDavid: sure, why not
[02:46] <phpmonk> jrib: in hardware it shows it as scsi07
[02:46] <[e]Lement> sliderz, nVidia is good with their drivers.  Usually better than ATi
[02:46] <phpmonk> jrib: Still gives same error
[02:46] <wesleyy> Hello
[02:46] <IrishDavid> jrib: how do you do it?
[02:46] <jrib> phpmonk: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[02:46] <gateboy1028> How do you add a session (for a different window manager) in GDM on 8.10?
[02:46] <phpmonk> sure just a sec
[02:46] <Phase> IrishDavid, `man ssh` it'll tell you how to include a command
[02:46] <quizme> how do you make application icons /
[02:46] <quizme> ?
[02:46] <jrib> IrishDavid: look at the last option you can provide the 'ssh' command according to man ssh
[02:46] <sliderz> I just wish I had a better card....I'm starting out in Linux on a P4 2.4 w/1gb ram/geforce 6200
[02:46] <sandro1> I'm using version of 177 of the nvidia driver
[02:46] <epswing> anyone using Skype with 8.10?  http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/ skype page says "7.04-8.04"
[02:47] <joeb3_> IrishDavid, ssh remote "command here with options"
[02:47] <jrib> gateboy1028: just install the window manager using APT
[02:48] <IrishDavid> jrib and Phase  and joeb3_ thanks for that, looking through it now, didn't consider being able to do it through the command launch
[02:48] <gateboy1028> jrib: i need to know how to do it manualy. its a standalone media center
[02:48] <phpmonk> jrib: http://pastebin.ws/56apy7
[02:48] <Phase> IrishDavid, Yep :)
[02:48] <jrib> gateboy1028: look at what you have in /usr/share/xsessions/ now then
[02:48] <dochaven> yeah, like sandro1, I am having a problem with video cards.  Only My problem is with using two video cards at once
[02:49] <sliderz> if I have a winxp system on my network, and I know the IP/user/pw etc...how can I (what is the syntax please?) mount the c$ share to my machine, from scratch?
[02:49] <dochaven> sliderz: use ssh
[02:49] <jrib> phpmonk: I'm guessing sdb is your vfat drive?
[02:49] <phpmonk> yes
[02:49] <phpmonk> 4GB
[02:49] <sandro1> well, I'm suspicious of the video drivers, desktop effects worked perfectly for me in ubuntu 8.04, only started having this problem with 8.10
[02:49] <jrib> phpmonk: do you have data on it?
[02:49] <robb_m> !samba | sliderz
[02:50] <sliderz> dochaven, even at home on a local network?  is that necessary?
[02:50] <phpmonk> jrib: yes I have
[02:50] <jrib> phpmonk: can you access the data somewhere else?  Like on windows?
[02:50] <dochaven> sliderz: at home you can just use the intranet ip
[02:50] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: hello..are you ignoring me or something?
[02:50] <phpmonk> Yes I can access on windows, thats the pain
[02:50] <provo> does only winamp play the links from shoutcast.com?
[02:50] <_jlb_> what is she trying to learn now?
[02:50] <dochaven> sliderz: away you should use your actual ip
[02:50] <gateboy1028> jrib: thanks! i think i know what to do from here
[02:51] <dochaven> sliderz: but you have to use port forwarding
[02:51] <jrib> phpmonk: if it were me, I would copy the data and reformat it using gparted.  I don't know what else to do if fdisk claims it doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:51] <sandro1> hey onetinsoldier, no sorry didn't see a message from you
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: ok, np
[02:51] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: i beleive it's enabled by putting a line in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:51] <atb101010> can someone please help me figure out why can't seem to see an ethernet device in my Ubuntu install?
[02:51] <wesleyy> With gnome-termainl, when I SSH to another computer and use a ncurses based application (irssi) I need to repetitively press CTRL+L to refresh the screen, otherwise it just sits there (doesn't scroll down, although the scroll lock is off).  This has started happening with Ubuntu 8.10, it didn't do it with previous version.
[02:52] <phpmonk> jrib: But the device is a spy cam and if I format, may the built in software may vanish
[02:52] <sliderz> dochaven, I just want to be able to access my mp3s on another PC in my home (im at home also).  I would like it to just mount it to be accessed, but I dont know the /correct way to go about it
[02:52] <sandro1> hmm I think I know what you're talking about ... made an edit to that file earlier today, let me check what it was
[02:52] <wesleyy> Is this a known bug?
[02:52] <dochaven> sliderz: if you want a gui ver. then go to Places->Connect To Server
[02:52] <sliderz> do i need to change my fstab file to do that?
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: you may need to actually add the Section in there... the Section is...  Section "Extensions"
[02:52] <jrib> phpmonk: true, but it may not be linux friendly then.  Did you try googling the device and linux?
[02:52] <sandro1> yeah, that was what I added.  it didn't make a difference
[02:53] <phpmonk> jrib: thanks , i will try that now
[02:53] <Phase> pckchem, [e]Lement, I found someone who posted the same thing awhile back (about my firefox issue) I added a comment to include the fact that it still happens on a fresh install of 8.10/Firefox with no addons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/285829
[02:53] <dochaven> sliderz: ssh is what I use to put videos on my ipod touch, it should work for moving mp3s
[02:53] <sliderz> so to do it in the UI, it wont work with the share name c$ will it
[02:53] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: the option all alone wouldlook like this  -->   Section "Extensions"    Option "Composite" "1"   EndSection
[02:53] <jrib> dochaven: are you on firmware 2.1+ with the ipod touch?
[02:54] <dochaven> jrib: yes
[02:54] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: I just tested ssh into a 8.10 box and its working no problem
[02:54] <joeb3_> atb101010, does "dmesg | grep NETDEV" show any devices?
[02:54] <sliderz> i have no idea how to access the hidden share of win in linux...
[02:54] <jrib> dochaven: are you able to view the videos you transfer to your ipod touch on the ipod touch itself?  How?
[02:54] <sliderz> i know the way to do it in win...but...this is all new to me.
[02:54] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: I am sshing into a Debian box
[02:54] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: from a Ubuntu box
[02:54] <sandro1> ah ... I entered it as: Option "Composite" "Enable"
[02:54] <ackers> whats this
[02:54] <joeb3_> sliderz, samba can mount that c$ share.
[02:55] <atb101010> joeb3_: nope
[02:55] <dochaven> jrib: I use yes, if you have jailbroken the touch, then use cydia to install MxTube
[02:55] <sliderz> ok.../goes to read about samba
[02:55] <jrib> dochaven: thanks
[02:55] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: and that's the way i also thought it should be. but from a guide, i guess it's....  Option "Composite" "1"
[02:55] <ackers> is that os...
[02:56] <sandro1> ok, thanks! Will give that a shot
[02:56] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: it makes you wonder... is there no standard anymore?
[02:56] <onetinsoldier> lol
[02:56] <sandro1> lol
[02:56] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: give me a minute and ill try it from a ubuntu 8.10 box
[02:56] <wesleyy> ok thank you
[02:56] <gerbil> could someone help me.  I'm trying to switch to emerald themes.
[02:56] <wesleyy> it occurs when I switch between windows in irssi or when a new message appears
[02:56] <Killer--Tux> hello
[02:56] <Killer--Tux> help setting up a ftp
[02:57] <dochaven> jrib: MxTube is supposed to be used to download youtube vids, but if you want to know how to use ssh to put vids from your computer on it, then email me
[02:57] <joeb3_> atb101010, no idea if the OS does not see the hardware.
[02:57] <Killer--Tux> i installed gproftpd but i dont get the gui for some reson
[02:57] <shtaffa> Would there be someone that would be willing to help with a VNC problem?
[02:58] <Killer--Tux> shtaffa what is the problem your having ?!?
[02:58] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: I just tested it running ssh into a xubuntu machine and then launching irssi and it worked no problem
[02:58] <aboucher> howcan i use i get vlc to get my dvds to play
[02:58] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: no, try ssh from a ubuntu machine to a debian machine
[02:58] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: I would guess its something to do with your settings
[02:59] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: I am using default settings
[02:59] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: I dont have a debian machine to test sshing into
[02:59] <shtaffa> I am unable to connect to me 8.04 box.  It was working great and then it stopped.  I think it stopped working when I was prompted to install the vinagre update.  I can not even telnet to my 8.04 box on port 5900.  THe connection is denied.
[02:59] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: can you get onto the debian machine?
[02:59] <mker> What's the area to the left of the clock called? Where you have small icons of some apps running.
[02:59] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: yes
[02:59] <atb101010> joeb3_: in order for the OS to see the nic does it need to support it via some driver, is will it be able to see it through some generic network driver?
[02:59] <Killer--Tux> shtaffa try reinstalling the whole thing
[02:59] <eseven73> mker panel or tray?
[03:00] <rww> mker: notification area
[03:00] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: go onto that machine and make sure that irssi on it scrolls correctly within a local session
[03:00] <epswing> anyone using Skype with 8.10?  http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/ skype page says "7.04-8.04"
[03:00] <aboucher> how can i use vlc to play dvds
[03:00] <Killer--Tux> help setting up ftp from scratch
[03:00] <joeb3_> atb101010, yes it needs a driver.
[03:00] <sliderz> using samba, (added a folder in /media, configured the fstab file), it still wont recognize //ipaddress/c$   is that just outright wrong?
[03:00] <mker> eseven73, rww thanks!
[03:00] <eseven73> np
[03:00] <shtaffa> ﻿Killer--Tux: the VNC server?  If you're talking about vino, I already did.
[03:00] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: it does if I ssh from a debian box or a non-ubuntu 8.10 box (ubuntu 8.04 worked with no problems)
[03:00] <exodus_MS> !codecs | aboucher
[03:00] <sliderz> says "is not a valid block device"
[03:01] <dochaven> wesleyy: yes
[03:01] <onetinsoldier> is pulseaudio a gnome thing?
[03:01] <Killer--Tux> shtaffa do you have a firewall that might be blocking it ?!?
[03:01] <dochaven> wesleyy: it should
[03:01] <Killer--Tux> can you ping the box
[03:01] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: so it leaves me to believe that something in Ubuntu 08.10 has changed
[03:01] <joeb3_> sliderz, use smbmount
[03:02] <dochaven> wesleyy: sorry, wrong person
[03:02] <sliderz> joeb3_, could you possibly point me in the right direction?
[03:02] <qcjn_> hi,in compiz, my X, square & "-" dissapeared from my window ? how can i get it back ?
[03:02] <dochaven> heh
[03:02] <wesleyy> dochaven: np :)
[03:02] <shtaffa> i have no firewall installed in ubuntu.  I have looked to see if I could find some settings in administration but have been unable to.  I am trying to vnc to ubuntu over my LAN, so I know it isn't a problem with a hardware firewall.
[03:02] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: the thing is mine works no problem ssh into a box, I would suggest making a new user account on your ubuntu accound and try from there to make sure that its not the box
[03:03] <shtaffa> i can ping it
[03:03] <frojnd> hello there
[03:03] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: hmmm, it is a fresh installation :)
[03:03] <Killer--Tux> shtaffa what is the error u get
[03:03] <pro1ove1> yes
[03:03] <wesleyy> IrishDavid: I updated about a week ago, I have not made any changes
[03:03] <onetinsoldier> sandro1: any luck?
[03:03] <gerbil> can someone help me figure out how to use emerald to get rid of these titlebar glitches
[03:03] <sliderz> I have installed smbmount, now I just need the proper syntax
[03:03] <Killer--Tux> help setting up ftp from scratch
[03:03] <shtaffa> unable to connect to host.  connection refused
[03:03] <n8tuser2> shtaffa--> is ubuntu running the vncserver?
[03:04] <wesleyy> shtaffa: can you ping it?
[03:04] <wesleyy> shtaffa: can you install ssh and ssh into it?
[03:04] <frojnd> I'm trying to DL all the pics from http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb01.jpg to http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb60.jpg so basically only the last 2numbers are changing. Is there a way that I could dl those pics with wget ? I'm trying and killing myself with: wget http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb0[1-9].jpg but it won't got
[03:04] <shtaffa> yeah.  it was still set up when it stopped working.  I have since disabled and reenabled it. no luck.
[03:04] <frojnd> Any ideas ?
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> i just installed a  custom compiled newer version kernel. no sound now. plain debian had alsaconf, but ubuntu doesn't seem to have this. how i can reconfigure alsa, or perhaps pulseaudio is more correct, for my new kernel?
[03:04] <aeos> frognd: just use downthemall in firefox
[03:04] <n8tuser2> !who
[03:04] <aeos> frojnd*
[03:04] <IrishDavid> wesleyy: its strange though, it must be the combination of ubuntu + debian
[03:05] <Killer--Tux> what ubuntu are u using 8.4 ?! 8.10
[03:05] <exodus_MS> Killer--Tux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[03:05] <shtaffa> I am using 8.04
[03:06] <n8tuser2> shtaffa--> is ubuntu running the vncserver?
[03:06] <shtaffa> ﻿n8tuser2: remote desktop is enabled.
[03:06] <aeos> When I just log in, I get a brown background before my actual desktop picture loads. How do I change the color of the 'transitional' background?
[03:06] <phpmonk> jrib: Bingo, it mounted, i was giving sdb0 in fstab, i made it sdb and it worked
[03:06] <joeb3_> sliderz, sudo mount -t smbfs -o user=windowsusername //ip/c$ /mnt/mountpoint
[03:07] <frojnd> I'm trying to DL all the pics from http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb01.jpg to http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb60.jpg so basically only the last 2numbers are changing. Is there a way that I could dl those pics with wget ? I'm trying and killing myself with: wget http://tomazic.info/images/00000mb0[1-9].jpg but it won't go. Any  dieas of how can I use wget to solve that one ?
[03:07] <n8tuser2> shtaffa--> on ubuntu   ps aux|grep vnc
[03:07] <joeb3_> sliderz, user must have admin rights to mount c$
[03:07] <Killer--Tux> exodus_MS  yes but i dont get the gui when i install it
[03:08] <gerbil> nvm, got it
[03:08] <MenZa> frojnd: I think I'd write a php script which made a script
[03:08] <MenZa> frojnd: I'll write it for you, if you want
[03:08] <unop> frojnd, wget does not understand those globs - either use a loop or make an array of filenames that you can pass to wget
[03:09] <shtaffa> n8tuser2: steve    25839  0.0  0.0   3004   752 pts/2    R+   21:06   0:00 grep vnc
[03:09] <frojnd> MenZa: no thank you
[03:09] <frojnd> unop: loop I'll go with that
[03:09] <sliderz> joeb3_  does mount error 6 - no such device or address   mean that the c$ share is disabled?
[03:09] <lu6cifer> I'm running firefox on ubuntu--and there's a problem with hovering. Whenever I hover over a link or something, "hover text" will show up, which is normal. But then, when I try to hover over something else, the hover text from the previous link shows up. And even when I'm not hovering over anything, when the cursor is over blank screen, hover text shows up. Any help?
[03:09] <lu6cifer>  
[03:09] <shtaffa> n8tuser2: doesn't look like it is running
[03:10] <\Kira> dpkg tells me that its missing packages needed to install a program, how can I tell it to get them? I think im missing something on the man pages...
[03:10] <unop> frojnd, or better - you could use aria2 - i believe it supports glob ranges
[03:10] <n8tuser2> shtaffa--> check to make sure,  and you sure no firewall rulez?  sudo iptables -vL
[03:11] <shtaffa> n8tuser2: Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 14M packets, 17G bytes)
[03:11] <shtaffa>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[03:11] <shtaffa> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes)
[03:11] <shtaffa>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[03:11] <shtaffa> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 9081K packets, 1454M bytes)
[03:11] <Buster_Hymen> From a practical standpoint, what's the difference exactly between Metacity and Emerald?  They're both windows decorators, right?
[03:11] <shtaffa>  pkts bytes target     prot opt in     out     source               destination
[03:11] <FloodBot2> shtaffa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <eye_pee> ﻿anyone know a good way to boot a cd on an older computer that's bios doesn't support it? its an external usb cd drive.
[03:11] <unop> frojnd, towards the bottom are a few examples of what you want - http://aria2.sourceforge.net/aria2c.1.html
[03:12] <eseven73> eye_pee: is that even possible?
[03:12] <Buster_Hymen> eye_pee:  i have a floppy that enabled my older PC to boot from a CD... I forget where I got it from or how it works, but a google search shoudl turn something up
[03:12] <joeb3_> sliderz, smbclient -U username -L ipaddress
[03:12] <joeb3_> sliderz, that will list the available shares.
[03:12] <Lorenzo> hello
[03:12] <Zoasterboy> anyone here had experience with the Ruby windowing toolbox Shoes?
[03:12] <raylu> !hi | Lorenzo
[03:13] <sliderz> Wow, thanks joeb3_, I wish I had this much help in all my endeavors....u guys are very much appreciated on my part.
[03:14] <Lorenzo> I recently installed Ubuntu on an old laptop that I have, and I discovered that I cannot turn on my wireless card.  I know the OS recognizes the hardware, but it does not recognize the keystroke used to turn it on.  help?
[03:14] <eye_pee> Buster_Hymen: thanks. I'll look for it.   eseven73: it's gotta be possible. I have ubuntu on here now, and installed it via windows 2000. the ubuntu cd had some magical tool to do it. now I'm nixing ubuntu.
[03:14] <psycardis> Is there a decent looking replacement for the top panel of gnome?
[03:14] <rsc-> Lorenzo, why don't you try using NetworkManager?
[03:14] <sliderz> What does a share of " remote IPC " mean on a vista machine?
[03:14] <Buster_Hymen> eye_pee:  let me actually run a google search myself and see if i can find it
[03:14] <psycardis> Can anybody identify the top panel in this screenie? http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/5053/stupid_GRSYZ3.jpg
[03:14] <Lorenzo> how would i do that rsc?
[03:14] <raylu> Lorenzo: "sudo dmesg | tail" after using the keystroke may provide some insight
[03:14] <usser> psycardis, top panel is just gnome-panel its no different from bottom one
[03:15] <Buster_Hymen> eye_pee:  if i remember correctly it required the use of rawwrite which is a windows tool...
[03:15] <Buster_Hymen> so i hope you have a windows box
[03:15] <eye_pee> nope. not anymore :-p
[03:15] <usser> psycardis, there are many alternatives to gnome-panel, like xfce4-panel or perlpanel even pypanel
[03:15] <Lorenzo> same thing raylu, I'm a complete Ubuntu noob, but i have general computer knowhow
[03:15] <PeskyJ> !dash
[03:15] <raylu> Lorenzo: open up the terminal and type it in. also
[03:15] <raylu> !who | Lorenzo
[03:16] <psycardis> usser: can you tell me what they're using in this http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/5053/stupid_GRSYZ3.jpg
[03:16]  * Khisanth stabs mivt
[03:17] <usser> psycardis, the bottom one?
[03:17] <psycardis> usser: that's awn what's the top one?
[03:17] <\Kira> dpkg tells me that its missing packages needed to install a program, how can I tell it to get them? I think im missing something on the man pages...
[03:17] <usser> psycardis, top one looks like regular gnome-panel. the bottom's awn
[03:17] <raylu> \Kira: what are you trying to install via dpkg?
[03:18] <\Kira> raylu: nessus dameon
[03:18] <\Kira> raylu: requires ssl
[03:18] <psycardis> usser: yeah, but the top one doesn't stretch all the way across like gnome-panel does.
[03:18] <Buster_Hymen> eye_pee:  this looks like it might be right up your alley -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
[03:18] <raylu> \Kira: that's in the repositories...
[03:18] <nachohi88> guys need help... wanna reinstall my intrepid but don't want to update it all again.. i see all those packages are here /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:19] <usser> psycardis, you can set it not to. and position anywhere on the edges of the screen too
[03:19] <nachohi88> how do i install it all again?
[03:19] <eye_pee> Buster_Hymen: very cool. thanks much. :-)
[03:19] <\Kira> raylu: so, I would enter: sudo apt-get install openssl, then run dpkg?
[03:19] <Buster_Hymen> no problem =)
[03:19] <raylu> nachohi88: backing up those files may do it. alternatively,
[03:19] <raylu> !aptoncd | nachohi88
[03:19] <usser> psycardis, panels should be somewhere in the system->preferences
[03:19] <psycardis> usser: nifty, need to find a theme for it now, thanks
[03:20] <iratiku> K... Guys... I've been in other rooms all night long... ##networking, ##linux ... I've done everything i can to keep from bringing this to you guys   : I _have_ to get this box to use 192.168.1.3 as its default gateway... everything depends on that... but i can't get it to do that ! Here is a whole bunch of diagnostic information:  http://pastie.org/339262 ...  I know you guys are busy with the 1,360 people in here.. but i have no where el
[03:20] <iratiku> se to turn
[03:20] <raylu> \Kira: why don't you just install nessus from apt?
[03:20] <\Kira> raylu: out of date, last time I checked
[03:20] <iratiku> Running on hardy / 8.04
[03:20] <MenZa> iratiku: If this doesn't work, try the forums or the mailing lists.
[03:20] <MenZa> !forums > iratiku
[03:20] <MenZa> !lists > iratiku
[03:20] <nachohi88> but about reinstalling.. need to do it with each one or i can put an order so all of them just installs by theirselfs
[03:21] <\Kira> raylu: um.... just after I installed openssl via apt-get, it started installing nessus, is this normal?
[03:21] <naknomik> derchris: sorry had to go away, yes I used /c$ mount
[03:21] <platius> psycardis; right click on a panel and choose properties from the dropdown menu
[03:21] <raylu> \Kira: nessus is probably marked by dpkg as broken
[03:21] <supertanker> Hey, is there any way to save a page of a PDF as an image such as a jpg or a png?
[03:21] <wut> I installed ubuntu through the mini net install iso, and it installed with no problem. but when i go to boot, it says "Error 21: Could not find hard disk" :(
[03:21] <raylu> \Kira: as soon as it could, it decided to install it
[03:21] <wut> What's it doin wrong? D:
[03:22] <bernie_> xpdf lets you save to png
[03:22] <\Kira> raylu: oh... thats cool. I didnt expect apt-get to work together with dpkg!
[03:22] <supertanker> Thanks bernie_
[03:22] <iratiku> Maybe its because ... 1.1 is the T1 router's internal IP ... and 1.3 links to another router .. whose wan is setup on the T1... so somewhere down the line ... the network realizes they are going to the same place ...... and puts in 192.168.1.1 instead ?
[03:22] <mattva01> i'm having a severe lockup issue with ubuntu-64
[03:23] <bernie_> im having a severe lockup/ page fault issue with freebsd 7.0 on my laptop
[03:23] <mattva01> anytime after login, it will hard lock (sysrq does not work) and no caps lock blinking
[03:23] <junglist313> Does anyone here know hoe to remove or change a GDM login from the command line? I installed a bad one and now I can't login normally.
[03:23] <exodus_MS> !freebsd
[03:23] <mattva01> anyone know any good way to diagnose this issue?
[03:24] <bernie_> every onnve in a while or all the time
[03:24] <mattva01> seems to be fairly random but its more likely to happen right as I login
[03:24] <usser> bernie_, using any non-native file systems. i found freebsd's fuse implementation be a bit buggy, would crash every once in a while when used with ext3
[03:24] <usser> bernie_, first sentence was question
[03:26] <sliderz> Whoever that was requested I used smbfs, sincerely thank you, got it to work on xp and vista.  Much thanks
[03:26] <bernie_> xt3 and ext2 for boot, its only when im in a browser and im loading a web page, itl lock up then restart due to a page fault/ kernle panic
[03:26] <joeb3_> sliderz, your welcome.
[03:26] <Aya18111> hii, can i ask for some advice on my ethernet controller ?/
[03:26] <c0l2e> how can make our LCD project work on ubuntu 8.10?
[03:26] <n8tuser2> Aya18111--> yes you may
[03:27] <joeb3_> Aya18111, yes
[03:27] <junglist313> Does anyone here know how to remove or change a GDM login theme from the command line? I installed a bad one and now I can't login normally.
[03:27] <Aya18111> i have ethernet card : intel corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 ethernet pro 100
[03:27] <Aya18111> but can get it working
[03:27] <sliderz> joeb3_, would you like to take a stab / or laugh at my next venture?  How to reach said linux PC @home from my xp laptop at work....
[03:27] <Anacranom> !ask | Aya18111
[03:27] <Aya18111> can't*
[03:28] <Aya18111> k , sure =X
[03:28] <majnoon> !ot
[03:28] <c0l2e> can anyone help me make our project work with ubuntu 8.10?
[03:28] <joeb3_> sliderz, too complicated.  I use openvpn combined with port forwarding on my router.  Just ask and someone may try to answer.
[03:28] <tsrk> in pidgin, sometimes my emoticons and menu icons all disappear (and turn into red X type things like image not found).  It seems pretty much random.  Anyone have any ideas of why this happens?  Is it normal?
[03:28] <wesleyy> c0l2e: what type of project?
[03:29] <mker> c0l2e, explain the problem and if someone knows how to help they will. don't ask for help without saying with that.
[03:29] <mker> *what
[03:29] <c0l2e> wesleyy: sorry i mean projector
[03:29] <c0l2e> my mistake
[03:29] <sliderz> joeb3_, I will probably use vpn, b/c I have to go thru a sym360 on the work end...so i can just configure into the domain...
[03:29] <wesleyy> c0l2e: :) yeah that is easy
[03:29] <wesleyy> c0l2e: well, more or less :)  what is the input the projector is expecting?
[03:29] <c0l2e> when my laptop is booting ubuntu.. I've seen it in the projector... but after the login screen it cannot be detected
[03:29] <Aya18111> so i should go to ubuntu-offtopic to ask ?/
[03:30] <wesleyy> c0l2e: what video card? ATI or NVIDIA?
[03:30] <c0l2e> ATI
[03:30] <junglist313> any ideas on that login problem I got?
[03:30] <c0l2e> it's an old Compaq Presario 2100
[03:30] <wesleyy> c0l2e: have you installed the restricted drivers for it?
[03:30] <sliderz> Aya18111, do you show a connection? or cannot find the correct drivers
[03:30] <c0l2e> yep
[03:30] <c0l2e> everything is properly installed
[03:31] <Anacranom> Aya18111, ask your full question, all in one statement, and then it will be known
[03:31] <usser> bernie_, are u running all latest updates
[03:31] <LutiusVeratius> how can I unpack rar archive
[03:31] <LutiusVeratius> anyone knows?
[03:31] <Aya18111> yea , it show the connection, not sure have driver or not , when i tried "lspci" the ethernet card appear
[03:31] <wesleyy> c0l2e: nice, then simply click on Applications, Accessories, ummm ATI something or other :) I forgot the name of it
[03:31] <Anacranom> LutiusVeratius, sudo apt-get install rar
[03:31] <mker> LutiusVeratius, you need to install rar for that, search in synaptic or however you prefer to install programs
[03:31] <wesleyy> c0l2e: then choice expand to screen 2
[03:32] <LutiusVeratius> I have installed it mker
[03:32] <junglist313> Does anyone here know how to remove or change a GDM login theme from the command line? I installed a bad one and now I can't login normally.
[03:32] <mker> LutiusVeratius, then just right click the file and extract
[03:32] <wesleyy> c0l2e: catalyst! that is the name of it!
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> i just installed a  custom compiled newer version kernel. no sound now. plain debian had alsaconf, but ubuntu doesn't seem to have this. how i can reconfigure alsa, or perhaps pulseaudio is more correct, for my new kernel?
[03:32] <vbrana> whats a good irc client
[03:32] <LutiusVeratius> I've tried that...but nothing
[03:32] <LutiusVeratius> let me check again
[03:32] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: analog or digital?
[03:32] <mker> vbrana, xchat is nice if you want GUI. irssi is nice if you don't.
[03:32] <\\`oot> Hi folks... I downloaded a .emerald "theme"... and can't figure out how to install it
[03:32] <wesleyy> I am using xchat :)
[03:32] <joeb3_> vbrana, Xchat
[03:32] <vbrana> thanks
[03:33] <Anacranom> Aya18111, try lshw -C network
[03:33] <\\`oot> I installed Emerald - but t doesn't appear to do anything but "display" the theme
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: analog
[03:33] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: what type of card?
[03:33] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: does lspci pick it up?
[03:33] <junglist313> Does anyone here know how to remove or change a GDM login theme from the command line? I installed a bad one and now I can't login normally. Anyone?
[03:33] <bernie_> yeah, everything is up to date i think it is a problem with Xorg than the  system, when i switched from xfree86 to xorg about 2 months ago when i went from 4.6 to 7.0 ive been noticing alot of bugs
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: i wish a good driver were out for my X-Fi card.. but alas i' using some onbaord sound card... hang on
[03:34] <mker> LutiusVeratius, it should work. what happens when you try? nothing at all? no error message or anything?
[03:34] <LutiusVeratius> nothing...
[03:34] <bernie_> unix isnt suppoes to crash like that
[03:34] <LutiusVeratius> i'll try in a sec
[03:34] <naknomik>  I am trying to mount the system share from a windows machine, c$. When I use smbclient, I can do: smbclient //hostname/c$ -U user then enter password and can read/write entire C: drive of the windows machine, but when I try to mount the C$ share, it gives error.
[03:34] <mker> LutiusVeratius, what happend if you double click the file to open it in archive manager, instead of "extract here"
[03:34] <Aya18111> it said , network unclaimed and network disabled , with a list below for each
[03:34] <eseven73> vbrana: xchat and irssi are pretty good (irssi is no GUI but it rocks)
[03:34] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: hmmm, have you tried running the alsa-soundtest?  also, what does aplay -l or dmesg say about it?
[03:35] <LutiusVeratius> mker : now,it's working something....
[03:35] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: oh and  you may want to try #alsa too
[03:35] <LutiusVeratius> mker : just a min
[03:35] <sliderz> naknomik when you do smbclient -U username -L ip      what does it show the share name as, something other than c$ ?  maybe?
[03:36] <mker> LutiusVeratius, if it's working it works :) Rar is pretty darn slow though.
[03:36] <nomnomnom> can I ask a question about how to log in?
[03:36] <LutiusVeratius> mker : and this is archive heavy 4.5gb...
[03:36] <naknomik> sliderz: smbclient -U username -L hostname shows the share as C$
[03:36] <Draci1> ask nomnomnom
[03:36] <nomnomnom> Does anyone here know how to remove or change a GDM login theme from the command line? I installed a bad one and now I can't login normally. Anyone?
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok... Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller
[03:36] <Draci1> nomnomnom - a better idea would be to remove the theme from your theme folder
[03:37] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: ok, that uses intel_hda drivers I think
[03:37] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: does lsmod tell you they are loaded?
[03:37] <nomnomnom> Dracil: where is the theme folder?
[03:37] <Draci1> nomnomnom - looking on some docs right now about that
[03:37] <urthmover> I create ~/Themes
[03:37] <jrib> nomnomnom: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom iirc
[03:37] <sliderz> naknomik try mount -t smbfs -o user=userid //hostname/c$ /media/name      Do you have a dir named in /media?    mkdir /media/name
[03:38] <mker> LutiusVeratius, yeah, those take some time with rar, but don't worry, sooner or later it'll get unpacked. There is a package called unrar which is non-free, I don't know if it's much faster though. From what I remember that too is very slow.
[03:38] <urthmover> naknomik: make sure you have rights tot hat folder locally as well
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: no. if that's the nameof the module i may need toreconfigure my kernel and recompile it.. not sure. i'll look
[03:38] <nomnomnom> jrib: is that a irc config or a generic gnome config? The -custom iirc at the end id throwing me off
[03:38] <cidesign> sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so try to change login screen
[03:38] <sliderz> urthmover does he have to edit the fstab to do that?
[03:38] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: well it is called snd_intel_hda or something like that
[03:39] <cidesign> then sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:39] <LutiusVeratius> mker : it's unpaking...and how fast will do it I don't know:) thanks for help mate anyway ^^
[03:39] <vesayth> Hello! I was wondering if someone could help me out with 2 problems. I'll just worry about one of them for now. I can't seem to get the flash plugin installed on my 32-bit version of Firefox (on a 64-bit machine). I've used every script available and I've tried a manual install (of course, that one I may have been doing it wrong).
[03:39] <cidesign>  sudo usplash -c to test it
[03:39] <urthmover> no you just create the local folder that you plan on mapping smbfs to
[03:39] <urthmover> then give it the appropriate permissions
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok, roger that. thank you
[03:39] <mker> LutiusVeratius, no problem, good luck
[03:39] <cidesign> hope that is what you are after
[03:39] <naknomik> sliderz: I'm able to connect to the C$ share if I do 'Connect to server...' thing from Nautilus. I just want it mounted automatically so all apps can access
[03:39] <urthmover> the local folder will always exist whether or not you have the fstab command working
[03:39] <LutiusVeratius> mker : thanks^^
[03:40] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: #also will tell you to wget a script which will find out information and paste it on a site so other alsa members can look at it and tell you what is wrong
[03:40] <joeb3_> nomnomnom, look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.  Saw two lines for the theme.
[03:40] <sliderz> vesayth try sudo apt-get install gsfonts gsfonts-x11 flashplugin-nonfree
[03:40] <wesleyy> #alsa even
[03:40] <eseven73> vesayth: how many flash plugins are listed in your ~/.mozilla/plugins folder?
[03:41] <vesayth> last time I checked, none but I will check again one sec
[03:41] <sammy> hi..all
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok. thanks. i think it might be a 'pulseaudio' thing.. not sure yet tho
[03:41] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: well start with alsa :)
[03:41] <sammy> my acer aspire 4520 can't install wifi driver. please help me??
[03:41] <vesayth> eseven73: Yeah I don't even see a plugins folder
[03:41] <eseven73> vesayth: ok if none, then that is the prob do as sliderz suggested and it should work
[03:41] <psycardis> Does anyone use AWN?
[03:41] <eseven73> O.o
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok
[03:42] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: pulseaudio is a plugin for alsa as far as a know, if alsa can pick it up and sound-test works then move on to pulse
[03:42] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: going to take a look at my custom kernel config right now
[03:42] <wesleyy> ok, good luck
[03:42] <Draci1> pulse audio is a sound server - mixes audio
[03:42] <dochaven> Is anyone else having problems with wine, steam, CS:S (or anyother halflife game), and 8.10?
[03:42] <vesayth> after running that command,t his is what I get: Reading package lists... Done
[03:42] <vesayth> Building dependency tree
[03:42] <vesayth> Reading state information... Done
[03:42] <vesayth> gsfonts is already the newest version.
[03:42] <vesayth> gsfonts-x11 is already the newest version.
[03:42] <vesayth> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[03:42] <vesayth> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:43] <psycardis> How come the Main Menu applet doesn't exist in the awn-extras page
[03:43] <psycardis> !lines
[03:43] <Flannel> !paste | vesayth
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: htere is no..  alsa-soundtest that i can tell
[03:43] <psycardis> !return
[03:43] <vesayth> sorry
[03:43] <dochaven> wine crashes for me whenever I try to start CS:S or TF2
[03:43] <eseven73> its hidden vesayth, 'cd ~/.mozilla/ && ls -a'  in a terminal
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: there*
[03:43] <dochaven> or really anything for that matter
[03:44] <Draci1> hey umnumnum
[03:44] <Draci1>  /usr/share/gdm/themes/
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: apt-file search alsa-soundtest: returns nothing
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: not does locate or anything else
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> nor*
[03:44] <pro1ove> anybody using qq?
[03:45] <vesayth> eseven73: it brings me to the .mozilla folder but again I don't see a plugins folder in it. This is what is returned by that command: .  ..  appreg  extensions  firefox
[03:45] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: hold on, I am finding out what package it is in
[03:45] <eseven73> vesayth: ok  do as sliderz suggested and it should work
[03:45] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok, roger
[03:46] <Draci1> ﻿nomnomnom  /usr/share/gdm/themes/
[03:47] <Scutum> hi anybody familiar with Oscommerce modules?
[03:47] <randal_> Does anyone know a good movie editor program
[03:47] <vesayth> eseven73: You mean the command he posted the first time? That didn't work
[03:47] <nomnomnom> Dracil: thanks
[03:47] <Draci1> np
[03:47] <randal_> Does anyone know a good movie editor program
[03:47] <Draci1> aviedmux
[03:47] <Draci1> or whatever its called
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: have you ever used apt-file..? it it can find it, then i don't think anything can
[03:47] <Draci1> its the only thing i have seen
[03:48] <dochaven> randal_: have you tried cinelerra
[03:48] <eseven73> vesayth: ok well this is what i did, i went to youtube.com it said i need flash so it took me to flashs' site i then downloaded the .deb file and everything worked from there :)
[03:48] <randal_> dochaven:  no how do you get it
[03:48] <eseven73> vesayth: that may or may not work for you but that's how i got mine working heh
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: doyou have alsa-soundtest on your system?
[03:48] <dochaven> http://cinelerra.org/
[03:49] <vesayth> eseven73: I tried that before, but I'll try it again and let you know
[03:49] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: found it! it is actually called speaker-test :)
[03:49] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: my bad :P
[03:49] <joeb3_> vesayth, the .deb does not put flash in your home folder.
[03:49] <randal_> dochaven: where do i download it is it a tar
[03:49] <dochaven> randal_: I do not think that it is in the default repos
[03:49] <eseven73> vesayth: if all else fails you can delete the .mozilla folder and reinstall firefox then do the .deb thingy
[03:49] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: speaker-test -c2 -l2 -Ddefault -twav
[03:50] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok, rorger.. i'll try it, but i already know  i don't have sound
[03:50] <mdmkolbe> How do I disable the username listing on the power/logout menu?  I'm ok with the menu but I don't want the user names listed there.
[03:50] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: does aplay -l pick up anything?
[03:50] <dochaven> randal_: does "sudo apt-get install cinelerra" work?
[03:50] <randal_> ill try
[03:50] <Buster_Hymen> how do i remove .deb packages installed via Gdebi?
[03:50] <vesayth> eseven73: I am getting an error message next to Status. It says "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'"
[03:50] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[03:51] <randal_> dochaven: nope ill download it
[03:51] <bruenig> can someone give me an example of a sudoers NOPASSWD line?
[03:51] <Draci1> ﻿Buster_Hymen - in synaptic - sudo apt-get remove [package]
[03:51] <eseven73> vesayth: which did you download? i think theres only two
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: aplay: device_list:215: no soundcards found...  ok, checking my kernel config now
[03:51] <dochaven> ok
[03:51] <jtaji> bruenig: %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[03:51] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: ok, ask in alsa too!
[03:51] <jrib> bruenig: read your /etc/sudoers, there's an example
[03:52] <DiiPhantom_> any pc games channels here?
[03:52] <bruenig> nevermind, I forgot that it has to be below the other garbage
[03:52] <provo> channel list
[03:52] <bruenig> what a silly rule
[03:52] <vesayth> eseven73: I only see one .deb option
[03:52] <Buster_Hymen> Dracil:  i tried that but it didn't show up... this is a package i manually downloaded and double clicked on... is the package name in apt-get going to be the same one as on the .deb package on my desktop?
[03:52] <dochaven> randal_:http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[03:52] <dochaven> randal_: if you already haven't downloaded it
[03:54] <randal_> dochaven:  i downloaded it and installed the package now what do i do
[03:54] <ionicz> How do I install a .run file that is on my desktop in Ubuntu 8.10?
[03:54] <eseven73> vesayth: ok, and you said you get errors with the flashplugin-nonfree
[03:54] <eseven73> ?
[03:55] <dochaven> randal_: how did you install it? (i.e. .deb file, apt)
[03:55] <vesayth> eseven73: I'm not getting any errors.. it's just that no matter what way I try to install it, when I run firefox it doesn't work
[03:55] <randal_> dochaven: i think it was a deb
[03:55] <randal_> dochaven: it was only 3.5 mb
[03:55] <vesayth> eseven73: the only error I got was from that .deb that I just tried
[03:56] <ionicz> How do I install a .run file that is on my desktop in Ubuntu 8.10?
[03:56] <psycardis> Does anybody have any idea why the Main Menu applet doesn't exist after installing the awn-extras package?
[03:56] <eseven73> vesayth: hmm im outta answers, keep asking like every 10 mins or so and one of the gurus in here will get to you just be patient :)
[03:56] <Draci1> ionicz do chmod +x on the file, ./file
[03:56] <dochaven> randal_: I'm somewhat sure that the .deb file you downloaded was for adding to the repos
[03:56] <unop> ionicz,  at a terminal.   chmod +x ~/Desktop/file.run;  ~/Desktop/file.run
[03:57] <joeb3_> ionicz, open command prompt.  Cd to desktop.  chmod 750 file.run.  ./file.run
[03:57] <randal_> dochaven:  so how do i uninstall that file and what file do i download
[03:57] <vbrana> test
[03:57] <Draci1> wow can't we just tell the guy only once?
[03:57] <Draci1> randal_ a deb?
[03:57] <vesayth> eseven73: No problem. Thanks for trying. It's impossible to know everything! ^^
[03:57] <randal_> dochaven:  where do i get the right deb file
[03:58] <Lorenzo> hello, its me again.  can someone tell me how to download and apply the bcm43xx-fwcutter?
[03:58] <eseven73> hehe vesayth np :)
[03:58] <Lorenzo> i have the link, but i have no idea how to use it
[03:58] <shadow98> hey guys getting this error update-initramfs is disabled since running on a live CD
[03:58] <shadow98> Failed to symbolic-link /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic to initrd.img.
[03:58] <sliderz> Lorenzo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter   ?
[03:58] <n8tuser2> Lorenzo--> did  read the link and follow the instructions ?
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: ok, in my kernel config, i did not compile CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL into the kernel or as a Module.. so i will do that now. i am really hoping and waiting for a good X-Fi driver since Creative open-sourced the 64-bit driver about a month and a half ago. anyway, thank you!
[03:59] <shadow98> im not running on live cd...i have installed to a persistent usb flash drive
[03:59] <joeb3_> Lorenzo, apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[03:59] <randal_> dracil what
[03:59] <dochaven> randal_: no, you can keep the repo installed, just do this:
[03:59] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: really you should check in #alsa too, you may need other modules to be compiled as well
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: hmm, ok
[03:59] <dochaven> sudo apt-get update
[03:59] <randal_> dochaven: woops i uninstalled it
[03:59] <Lorenzo> n8tuser2: I have the link, but there are 7 parts in the file, all .tar.bz2 files
[03:59] <dochaven> then:
[04:00] <dochaven> sudo apt-get install cinelerra
[04:00] <n8tuser2> Lorenzo--> certainly there is a some kind of read me file yes?
[04:00] <Lorenzo> joebb3: i have no internet on the computer with Ubuntu, hence the problem
[04:00] <Lorenzo> http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547
[04:00] <randal_> dochaven:  i cant find the version that works on 8.10
[04:01] <dochaven> randal_: if you reinstall the .deb, then just update apt, then install cinelerra using apt
[04:01] <Madsy> How can I seperate manually added packages and meta-packages in Synaptic from packages auto-selected because of dependencies? There must be a way.
[04:01] <invariable> how do I use bsdmake on ubuntu?
[04:01] <Madsy> Basically I want to list all packages which have no dependencies.
[04:01] <randal_> dochaven: what
[04:01] <dochaven> randal_: are you sure?
[04:01] <abarbaccia> now that xorg.conf is gone, how does xorg know which driver to load and how do i switch them manually?
[04:01] <sliderz> What is the best/most common MP3 software ....ubuntu 8.10
[04:01] <dochaven> ok
[04:01] <randal_> dochaven:  idk what to do why do they have to make this so complicated
[04:01] <DiiPhantom_> Madsy: why would you want to do that?
[04:02] <abarbaccia> sliderz: rhythmbox, amaroke or maybe even songbird
[04:02] <dochaven> randal_: haha, download this: http://akirad.cinelerra.org/pool/addakirad.deb
[04:02] <Scutum> anybody familiar with oscommerce?
[04:02] <Guest62466> how do I use bsdmake on ubuntu? I have a program written by a freeBSD person and I want to compile it on ubuntu -> but the Makefile is for bsdmake
[04:02] <sliderz> k, rhythm box comes stock. check.  thanks abarbaccia
[04:02] <Madsy> DiiPhantom_: The obvious reason. I want to free some space, and remove some packages I rarely use.
[04:02] <dochaven> randal_: then, after installing, do "sudo apt-get update"
[04:03] <DiiPhantom_> oh lol, thats not that obvious
[04:03] <dochaven> randal_: then "sudo apt-get install cinelerra"
[04:03] <randal_> dochaven:  after i install use sudo apt-get update do i have to put the program name in it
[04:03] <dochaven> randal_: ? what
[04:03] <shadow98> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3096170
[04:04] <Buster_Hymen> Is there a way to roll my current installation (themes, installed apps, installed repos, installed drivers, app preferences, EVERYTHING) into an installable cd or dvd?
[04:04] <dochaven> randal_: the update is for apt
[04:04] <shadow98> looks like that might be the answer if anyone cared
[04:04] <randal_> dochaven:  nvm 1 sec
[04:04] <dochaven> randal_: ok
[04:04] <Madsy> DiiPhantom_: It works fine for the "cute" add/remove applications synaptic tool. The problem arises when you need packages which aren't applications, like development libraries. Then you have no choice than invoking synaptic. And chaos ensues when you want to actually remove something again.
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> Buster_Hymen: google Ghost Unix...also known as g4u
[04:05] <DiiPhantom_> i see, thank you, im learning here
[04:05] <Buster_Hymen> onetinsoldier:  will do! thank you!
[04:05] <Madsy> Because the packages who are dependencies are impossible to separate from those who are not.
[04:05] <shadow98> Failed to symbolic-link boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic to initrd.img.
[04:05] <rww> Madsy: look into deborphan. I think it does that, maybe
[04:06] <randal_> dochaven: why cant they tell you this on the website serisly why is installing stuff on ubuntu so hard
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> Buster_Hymen: you're welcome
[04:06] <Buster_Hymen> onetinsoldier:  looks good! just to be clear though, it can make installable images?
[04:06] <randal_> dochaven: its 50% done
[04:06] <Chameleon-Digitz> @Buster_Hymen: Remastersys
[04:06] <dochaven> randal_: ok
[04:06] <Buster_Hymen> onetinsoldier:  i mean bootable images
[04:06] <rww> Madsy: personally, I just markauto everything, then unmarkauto what I want and let aptitude remove anything else that's hanging around. But you really need to make sure you know what you want to do that :)
[04:07] <Buster_Hymen> Chamelion-Digitz:  i was under the impression that remastersys didn't preserve everything.  or am i wrong?
[04:07] <n8tuser2> randal--> did you ever took the time to read the ubuntu web site and looked around carefully for gotchas?
[04:07] <ozzloy> where is the txt file containing compiz-config settings?
[04:07] <onetinsoldier> Buster_Hymen: hmmm, i doubt it can make a bootable installer cdrom tho.. not sure what to say about that
[04:07] <Madsy> rww: Thanks.
[04:07] <Killer--Tux> how do i delete a ftp server
[04:08] <Buster_Hymen> onetinsoldier:  well it's still great, because i was about to ask for Acronis True Image replacements for *nix =)
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> Buster_Hymen: but if you want everything under th sun backed up... there it is
[04:08] <Chameleon-Digitz> Actually I never used it. Just saw it on Samurai live cd
[04:08] <shadow98> anybody got any ideas on this one...when i run apt-get upgrade i get ..  Failed to symbolic-link boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic to initrd.img.
[04:08] <Buster_Hymen> Chameleon-Digitz:  yeah i might end up using it, but I don't think it remembers quite everything
[04:08] <nbeebo> babylon a.d. sucked
[04:08] <mdmkolbe> How do I disable the username listing on the power/logout menu?  I'm ok with the menu but I don't want the user names listed there.
[04:08] <randal_> dochaven: thankyou it worked why cant they make installing stuff in ubuntu like oc
[04:08] <randal_> dochaven: pc
[04:09] <gbear14275> ok, so I just installed pulseaudio and seemed to have gotten it working expcept now I installed the equalizer packages and can't seem to find the equalizer control panel... how do I get to it
[04:09] <dochaven> randal_: anytime
[04:09] <ultratek> how do i format my main hardrive from the live cd before bootup?
[04:09] <nbeebo> mdmkolbe , im using gnome and it doesnt say, maybe because u have multiple users??
[04:10] <mdmkolbe> nbeebo: yes, I have multiple users
[04:10] <gbear14275> anyone have the pulseaudio equalizer installed?
[04:11] <nbeebo> mdmkolbe, well, it isnt possible in the settings, but maybe in gconf, but thats really complicated...
[04:12] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, its not too hard
[04:12] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, thats the user switcher applet
[04:13] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, go open gconf
[04:14] <gbear14275> bueller?
[04:14] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: ok
[04:14] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, then go /apps/panel/global/disabled_applets
[04:14] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: wait, do you mean run gconf-editor? or something else?
[04:15] <xorlim> my system doesn't let me add more users, adduser says "only 1 or 2 names are allowed".
[04:15] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, yep, gconf-editor
[04:15] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: ok, I'm at /apps/panel/global/disable_applets in gconf-editor
[04:15] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, then browse that folder tree i said above
[04:15] <xorlim> and the graphical add user menu doesn't give me the option to add more users, I can change my real name though which I already did.
[04:15] <hellhound> is there a way to have evolution run in the background and either have a tray icon or a message pop (that when clicked will open evolution) when I have a calendar event alarm, task alarm, and new email
[04:15] <Izinucs> xorlim: do you have ubuntu loaded on windows with wubi?
[04:15] <nflmvp> damn manuel settings on a camera are so hard to get right
[04:16] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, add the panel ID in there for any one you want to disable
[04:16] <aeronca7> a question...I am attempting to add a background image to GRUB. I have installed Startup Manager, and gfxboot and the various themes. However when I go to the Appearance tab in Startup Manager and try to check the "use background image for bootloader menu" it will not check the box
[04:16] <Jacobbs> !hcl
[04:16] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: ok, so how do I find out the panel id?
[04:16] <shadow98> anybody got any ideas on this one...when i run apt-get upgrade i get ..  Failed to symbolic-link boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic to initrd.img.
[04:16] <xorlim> Izinucs: no. this is just Ubuntu with Gnome. it came from a magazine, 8.04, and I upgraded it to 8.10 via Internet with update-manager -d if I recall correctly.
[04:17] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, should be under apps/panel/default setup/fast user switch/
[04:17] <Izinucs> xorlim: that's strange that it won't allow more than 2 users.. not sure how to diagnose that.. hopefully someone else will appear that does.
[04:17] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, the bit that says bonoboid
[04:17] <xorlim> Izinucs: ok
[04:17] <Dolo> hey does anyone here know what gate crasher is?
[04:18] <Jacobbs> Hmm ubuntuhcl.com doesnt' have any entries for HP DVD630i
[04:18] <Dolo> i keep seeing gatecrasher on my firewall
[04:18] <Izinucs> xorlim: one thing you might try is if you have a 2nd account created already, load that and try from there.
[04:18] <urthmover> anyone use denyhosts in here?
[04:18] <gbear14275> ok, maybe an easier question... how can I associate IRC links with a program?
[04:18] <chupy> hi i put the new repository of amarok 2 but how do i install it?
[04:18] <ozzloy> i just changed some compizconfig settings, now i get logged out immediately.  how do i fix it?
[04:19] <Dolo> Gatecrasher? anyone?
[04:19] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: ok, the disabled_applets "long description" says I need to restart the pannel for the setting to take effect.  Is there a way to easily do that without logging out and back in?
[04:19] <Vantrax> ozzloy, you need to edit it via live cd or single user mode
[04:19] <MoLoot> Is there a way (in linux) to scan
[04:19] <MoLoot>                 through several folders of .DOC
[04:19] <MoLoot>                 files to find a string?
[04:19] <xorlim> Izinucs: I don't have a second account created yet, not that I remember of. I will check /etc/passwd for that.
[04:19] <Dolo> keeps comming up on my firewall
[04:19] <MoLoot> oops
[04:19] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, nope
[04:19] <FloodBot3> MoLoot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:19] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: ok, well thanks for the help
[04:19] <nbeebo> my internet got extremely slow all of a sudden, why can that be?
[04:19] <ozzloy> Vantrax: i created a new user and am signed in as that right now
[04:19] <MoLoot> FloodBot3: Can it, it was a mistake... stupid bot
[04:19] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, good luck, hope it works for you
[04:19] <ozzloy> Vantrax: i need to know where the files are that i need to edit
[04:20] <eseven73> i bet FloodBot3 loves irssi users lol
[04:20] <chupy> help hi i put the new repository of amarok 2 but how do i install it?
[04:20] <Vantrax> ozzloy, /home/<username>.gconf/apps/compiz/
[04:20] <rogan> whats the name of the camera utility ? for importing photos? i lost it when upgrading to kde4.2
[04:20] <Vantrax> ozzloy, /home/<username>/.gconf/apps/compiz/
[04:21] <ozzloy> Vantrax: thanks
[04:21] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, what you doing all this for?
[04:22] <joeb3_> rogan, f-spot ?
[04:22] <rogan> no digicam
[04:23] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: I'm afraid I can't tell you that.  Let's just say it is one more (very weak) layer to the security onion.
[04:23] <xorlim> how do I temporarily give program error messages in the English language?
[04:23] <MoLoot> Is there a way (in linux) to search through a folder for a string in several .doc files
[04:23] <xorlim> "adduser: Ainoastaan yksi tai kaksi nimeä sallitaan." --> "adduser: Only one or two names are allowed."
[04:23] <Vantrax> MoLoot, grep for mor info type man grep in a terminal
[04:23] <Dolo> i keep seeing a service called gate crasher in my firewall and when i looked online it said its a windows backdoor but im running linux
[04:23] <chupy>  help hi i put the new repository of amarok 2 but how do i install it?
[04:24] <MoLoot> Vantrax: In .doc format cat ing it gave me a lot of crap on the screen
[04:24] <histo> mdmkolbe, what are you tyring to do enable remote desktop from console?
[04:24] <shadow98> help
[04:24] <nbeebo> my internet got extremely slow all of a sudden, why can that be?
[04:24] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: hmm, actually after poking around it looks like /apps/fast-user-switch-applet/show_active_users_only is exactly along the lines of what I want
[04:24] <evilGUI> Dolo: it could be a bot trying to infect you
[04:24] <mdmkolbe> histo: no
[04:24] <Dolo> it says the source is my ip
[04:25] <evilGUI> o.O
[04:25] <nbeebo> k ill reboot then
[04:25] <Vantrax> mdmkolbe, could be, you didnt say what you wanted:P
[04:25] <xorlim> Dolo: try to killall programname
[04:25] <xorlim> Dolo: and if that doesn't work, sudo killall programname
[04:25] <evilGUI> Dolo: install chkrootkit and run it
[04:25] <histo>  23:26:59 up 11 days,  3:22,  1 user,  load average: 1.21, 0.66, 0.61
[04:25] <xorlim> Dolo: http://www.chkrootkit.org
[04:25] <histo> wrong chan sry
[04:25] <Dolo> is something running? on my pc?
[04:26] <Dolo> i was getting this from my firewall list
[04:26] <evilGUI> Dolo: possibly
[04:26] <Vantrax> dolo, do you run wine?
[04:26] <histo> Dolo, do you have any windows ocmputers behind you?
[04:26] <Vantrax> Dolo, or share the internet with windows boxes?
[04:26] <Dolo> i do run wine for a ocuple programs
[04:26] <gbear14275> anyone know how to get pidgin and firefox to handle IRC links correctly?
[04:26] <gbear14275> like this one? irc://irc.freenode.org/pulseaudio
[04:27] <histo> Dolo, its not wine
[04:27] <Vantrax> Dolo, wine can get viruses and malware
[04:27] <Dolo> if it was running from my pc would i see it in system monitor?
[04:27] <Vantrax> Dolo, doesnt sound like a virus tho
[04:27] <mdmkolbe> Vantrax: yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear about what I wanted, but at least you got me heading in the direction of gconf so thanks anyway.
[04:27] <histo> Vantrax, its not wine and that is a wierd statement wine does not equal windows
[04:27] <exodus_MS> chupy: I think it is sudo apt-get install amarok-kde4
[04:27] <Dolo> every few minutes i keep getting a notice in firewall
[04:27] <histo> Dolo, yes you would see it in system monitor. Which firewall are you talking of?
[04:28] <Vantrax> histo, check the ubuntu forums, people have got viruses inside wine before.
[04:28] <Dolo> firestarter
[04:28] <Dolo> along with some wierd red event
[04:28] <histo> Dolo, are youusing bit torrent?
[04:28] <Dolo> Tcpmux on port 1 in red
[04:29] <Dolo> ya
[04:29] <Dolo> vuze
[04:29] <chupy> exodus_MS: thanks
[04:29] <histo> Dolo, bit torrent uses the same port and firestarter thinks its gate crasher
[04:29] <dsl866> How do I repair my grub?
[04:29] <Dolo> ohhhh
[04:29] <condom_> heyyy
[04:29] <Dolo> so should i allow that port too?
[04:29] <condom_> hello
[04:30] <histo> Dolo,  if thats the case yes
[04:30] <sliderz> ola
[04:30] <histo> !who | Dolo
[04:30] <condom_> can someone get me unbanned from a channel?
[04:30] <Dolo> if the back door was for windows and im running linux so it cant do anything to my pc right
[04:30] <histo> condom_, try #help
[04:30] <evilGUI> I get this when running chkrootkit never seen this before I installed 8.10 wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/wpa_supplicant[4772], /sbin/dhclient3[5361])
[04:30] <Marfi> hey hey, trying to get the live disk to boot to a avertec 7100 series. its comming to a gray screen...any ideas?
[04:30] <evilGUI> I have firestarter and moblock installed
[04:30] <supertanker> Is there a way for me to convert a .pdf to an image?
[04:31] <supertanker> I tried xpdf but I couldn't figure out how
[04:31] <Dolo> histo: if its a windows backdoor then my linux wont be affected right
[04:31] <histo> Dolo, correct as others have stated I guess its possible for wine to run viruses backdoors etc.. that would just mess up you .wine folder in your home if thats even possible.
[04:31] <histo> Dolo, are you using bit torrent though?
[04:31] <dochaven> supertanker: .pdf is an image in a way
[04:31] <Izinucs> supertanker: yes.. what do you want to convert it to?
[04:31] <supertanker> a .png or .jpg
[04:31] <Dolo> histo: I'm using Vuze a bit torrent client
[04:31] <nbeebo> my internet got so slow all of a sudden.. help please :(
[04:32] <Izinucs> supertanker: sudo apt-get install imagemagick.. then convert <file.pdf> file.jpg or png or tif etcc
[04:32] <histo> Dolo, well you may want to check what port its using. I bet its using the same port that the window trojan uses thats why firestarter is allerting.
[04:32] <Marfi> nbeebo, reset your router
[04:32] <sliderz> nbeebo, what did you do right before that.
[04:32] <histo> Dolo, its just mis identifying it.
[04:32] <supertanker> Izinucs, Image-magik works?
[04:32] <nbeebo> marfi, that wont trash anything or something like that?
[04:32] <Izinucs> supertanker: oh yea.. very well
[04:32] <supertanker> ! Thank you!
[04:32] <Marfi> nbeebo, nope, a simple reset of the router always helps
[04:32] <nbeebo> sliderz, internet as usual, started download as usual, watched a movie, came back, ended downloads, now its slow
[04:33] <Izinucs> supertanker: np.. if you get stuck I'm here for a while
[04:33] <Dolo> my port for bit torrent is a differnt port number but im getting many blocked connections should i just shut firewall off?
[04:33] <banteng> bitcomet in UBuntu?
[04:33] <nbeebo> marfi, just a question, my router settings will still work?
[04:33] <nbeebo> marfi ports and stuff
[04:33] <Marfi> nbeebo, everything will be there. just unplug the power and plug it back in
[04:33] <DiiPhantom_> there trojans for linux?
[04:33] <sliderz> nbeebo its just hung connections/connections u dont want left over from a bt download or something...reset of router, seconded...nope wont delete anything
[04:34] <sliderz> UNLESS you are on some crazed cisco router...
[04:34] <nbeebo> marfi, sliderz... hmmm ok, just unplug/plug?
[04:34] <DiiPhantom_> are there trojans for linux?
[04:34] <Marfi> nbeebo, yup, and reset your computer while your at it
[04:34] <Izinucs> nbeebo: unplug and wait about 15 seconds .. then plug it back in
[04:34] <nbeebo> marfi yep alright ill be back ..
[04:34] <sliderz> nbeebo, yup..then it will basically bootup...then net connection will come up, reboot your pc...all good by the time you come back :D
[04:34] <nbeebo> ok 15 sec thanks...
[04:34] <Marfi> hey hey, trying to get the live disk to boot to a avertec 7100 series. its comming to a gray screen from the live cd...any ideas?
[04:35] <nbeebo> kk brb
[04:35] <evilGUI> DiiPhantom: yes there are they mainly target servers though
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> nbeebo: to kinda check things out and/or keep an eye on your connections and connectivity i suggesting using  iptraf. might not tell you what exactly is wrong, but might give good hints
[04:35] <kolka> what are some advantages in having ubuntu OS
[04:35] <kolka> as a developer
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> doh.. missed him
[04:35] <sliderz> Marfi, u see the machine post?
[04:35] <evilGUI> it's very rare to find one
[04:35] <Dolo> histo: Should I shut off the firewall when running torrent?
[04:35] <histo> Dolo, you don't have to just make acceptions for those ports.
[04:36] <gbear14275> kolka: what are you asking?
[04:36] <Marfi> sliderz, it will come up to the select screen, and i select use the cd...and it goes gray
[04:36] <evilGUI> Dolo: why not just froward the ports?
[04:36] <Dolo> ?
[04:36] <gbear14275> Dolo: no
[04:36] <DiiPhantom_> thank you evilGUI, ill be honest, im changing to linux fromwindows because its security, and its free!
[04:36] <sliderz> Marfi - do you have another copy? can you burn one?
[04:36] <Dolo> evilGUI: I dont know how to forward ports
[04:36] <sliderz> maybe bad cd?
[04:36] <sliderz> might could try cd in another machine?
[04:36] <banteng> is there any apps like bitcomet in Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Marfi> sliderz, yea, ill burn another one
[04:36] <Marfi> hold on
[04:36] <DiiPhantom_> there is a website for forwarding ports, can i post it here?
[04:36] <mezquitale> !mp4
[04:37] <gbear14275> Dolo: Google is your friend, look up "port forwarding" there are a few step by step help pages out there
[04:37] <banteng> compatible with bitcomet I mean
[04:37] <DiiPhantom_> banteng: use azureus, its the best
[04:37] <gbear14275> Dolo: what kind of router do you have?
[04:37] <Dolo> I don't use a router
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> banteng: i like azureus too.. however, there are others
[04:38] <gbear14275> Dolo: you plug your computer right into your modem?
[04:38] <evilGUI> Dolo: some modems also have a type of firewall built in
[04:38] <Dolo> yup
[04:38] <banteng> DiiPhantom_: I'm using transmission right now
[04:38] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: banteng +1
[04:39] <Dolo> gbear14275: I thought the upside to linux was I wouldnt need to worry bout those things, yes its directly to the modem
[04:39] <DiiPhantom_> i dont know it banteng but i know azureus, which is know vuze, is all i need :) try it im sure you will love it
[04:39] <gbear14275> Dolo: it is
[04:39] <gbear14275> Dolo: if you mean the likliness you will run into virus' and such
[04:40] <tawd> did anyone else loose sound with the new kernel update?  i'm on my windows partion for internet right now but is there an easy fix to get sound back?
[04:40] <evilGUI> Dolo: type route -n into terminal and see if you have a local ip such as 192.168.x
[04:40] <Dolo> yes i do
[04:40] <banteng> DiiPhantom_: thanks you
[04:40] <DiiPhantom_> for the record http://www.portforward.com/
[04:41] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: I had some real problems with vuze
[04:41] <DiiPhantom_> what happen?
[04:41] <evilGUI> DiiPhantom: I was just about to say that
[04:41] <nbeebo> it worked wohooo! lol
[04:41] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: then had a really hard time uninstalling it
[04:41] <evilGUI> I use transmission with little issues
[04:41] <sliderz> nbeebo so you booted?
[04:41] <DiiPhantom_> i use vuze with no problems....even in windoes
[04:42] <DiiPhantom_> whats the problem? gbear14275 and evilGUI
[04:42] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: in windows it wasn't a problem for me but utorrent is by far the king of windows bittorrent clients
[04:42] <Dolo> anyone know what SSDP is?
[04:42] <evilGUI> You can run uTorrent in wine you know
[04:42] <vesayth> Anyone able to help me get flash set up on my x64 box? I think I've narrowed the problem down to the plugin install. It appears that it installs fine but when it tries to configure there is a download error. I'd paste the output but I don't want to flood the channel. To sum it up, I get this: "download failed"  "The Flash plugin is NOT installed." This is from running sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:43] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: It might be because I am running 64bit linux but I found the updater to mess up my packages and file system... I prefer my applications use the ubuntu package system
[04:43] <nbeebo> sliderz, yes, and unplugged both the internet-cable and power-cable to the router, and reboot
[04:43] <polywaffle> I have just finished up using Debian Lenny.  Does anyone else report a bad experience?
[04:43] <gbear14275> evilGUI: how does that work?  I haven't touched wine ye
[04:43] <sliderz> good to go, nbeebo
[04:43] <DiiPhantom_> gbear14275: i see well maybe in the future
[04:44] <DiiPhantom_> im dont for today good night all!
[04:44] <nbeebo> sliderz thanks
[04:44] <gbear14275> DiiPhantom_: I plan to revisit later but have some other things to look at first and transmission is working pretty well for me
[04:44] <Marfi> sliderz, trie another cd and the same problem
[04:44] <sliderz> n/p
[04:44] <evilGUI> gbear14275: you just install it and can use .exe files just as in windows with some limitations
[04:44] <sliderz> Marfi....your boot options in BIOS set with CDROM first?
[04:45] <Dolo> do I need Port : 1900 UDP SSDP  ?
[04:45] <gbear14275> evilGUI: as far as utorrent goes though is wine able to provide an environment that allows utorrent to work as well there as it does in windows?
[04:45] <sliderz> 1900 is most likely upnp
[04:45] <DiiPhantom_> God bless and good night!
[04:45] <Marfi> sliderz, yes, and its booting to the CD. it comes up to the selection menu for ubuntu, and i select to use it, and thats when it goes gray. i can hear it go to the ubuntu start sound, so i know its a problem with the video
[04:46] <faryshta> Hi, my BIOS (phoenix bios) don't recognize my CD-Rom.
[04:46] <evilGUI> gbear14275: last time I tried it the thing worked fine
[04:46] <sliderz> what is your vid specs Marfi?
[04:46] <gbear14275> evilGUI: Familiar with how wine works... just not familiar with its overhead and limitations... and would suspect that torrent clients would run into trouble
[04:46] <faryshta> is there some way to fix that?
[04:46] <Izinucs> Marfi: try booting with the safe video mode
[04:46] <mezquitale> anyone knows if you are able to hear sounds on mp4 movies recorded from a phone??  I am unable to hear sound, I can see the video, codecs are all installed, googled it and I see other people have the same problem though I find no solution
[04:46] <Marfi> sliderz, nvidia geforce go 6100
[04:46] <IdleOne> is the Alternate CD also a liveCD?
[04:46] <gbear14275> evilGUI: but your using transmission these days?  so it must not have worked well enough to stop using transmission ;)
[04:46] <Izinucs> IdleOne: no.. it's a text installer..
[04:46] <polywaffle> IdleOne: no
[04:47] <xorlim> IdleOne: no, Desktop CD is also a liveCD.
[04:47] <Marfi> sliderz, same problem w/ the safe mode
[04:47] <Marfi> sliderz, gonna try xubuntu
[04:47] <IdleOne> thanks Izinucs polywaffle  and xorlim
[04:47] <faryshta> !bios
[04:47] <xorlim> how do I add users to my system, how come it says "only one or two users are allowed"?
[04:47] <sliderz> what are u trying right now 8.10?
[04:47] <Izinucs> Marfi: you might remove the "quiet splash" from the boot portion of the kernel line and then you'll see the error messages.
[04:47] <polywaffle> no probs
[04:47] <faryshta> Someone knows to fix or upgrade a bios?
[04:48] <evilGUI> gbear14275: this laptop is pretty slow so I don't use anything under wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11113 only thing that doesn't work seems to be https
[04:48] <Marfi> Izinucs, alright, rebooting
[04:48] <xorlim> faryshta: in the old day it was done with a MS-DOS boot diskette.
[04:48] <Vantrax> faryshta, id look at good for your bios, or check with your motherboard manufacturer for updates
[04:48] <polywaffle> https does not work with wine last time i checked
[04:48] <gbear14275> evilGUI: what laptop you using out of curiosity?
[04:48] <Vantrax> faryshta, google that is
[04:48] <gbear14275> faryshta: what type of computer?
[04:48] <polywaffle> this I know because crossweaver chromium does not do https
[04:48] <polywaffle> sorry
[04:48] <evilGUI> gbear14275: a old gateway mx3231 given to me by a friend
[04:49] <polywaffle> is it crossweaver
[04:49] <gbear14275> faryshta: I would check your motherboard manufacturers website first
[04:49] <polywaffle> or codeweaver
[04:49] <siqi> #ubuntu-cn
[04:49] <faryshta> gbear14275, is an aspire 5100, the bios is calle Phoenix
[04:49] <faryshta> gbear14275, the problem is that my CD-Rom is not recognized, then I found that was not neither on bios.
[04:49] <siqi> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:49] <siqi> join #ubuntu-cn
[04:50] <siqi> join ubuntu-cn
[04:50] <FloodBot3> siqi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <siqi> ?
[04:50] <gbear14275> faryshta: ooh... can you get it to boot?
[04:50] <pro1ove> siqi chinese?
[04:50] <hellhound> what directory are sound files found?
[04:50] <polywaffle> most times, u won't be able to do an upgrade on your bios from linux
[04:50] <Izinucs> siqi: type /j #ubuntu-cn
[04:50] <siqi> 怎么去中文的？
[04:50] <faryshta> gbear14275, I put some liveCD's right now but they didn't boot
[04:50] <siqi> thank you!
[04:50] <aeronca7> can anyone help with adding a background image to the GRUB boot menu?
[04:50] <gbear14275> evilGUI: I was really lucky.... my first laptop was a t30 I bought in 2002 and its still going strong...
[04:50] <pro1ove> 原来都是自己人
[04:51] <gbear14275> faryshta: is there no OS on it right now?
[04:51] <evilGUI> gbear14275: nice
[04:51] <skrypt> Question: how do I open NVIDIA X Server Settings from the terminal (with sudo)?
[04:51] <gbear14275> evilGUI: I actually recommend them still to this day if you are looking for a low budget machine
[04:51] <faryshta> gbear14275, yes, two versions of ubuntu, actually I am using it right now. The not-recognized stuff is my cd-rom
[04:52] <polywaffle> gksudo
[04:52] <Marfi> Izinucs, tried it, and didnt see a problem with it.
[04:52] <Izinucs> skrypt: install nvidia-settings
[04:52] <polywaffle> skrypt
[04:52] <gbear14275> I just upgraded the processor on it and put 2 gig of RAM in it with a BIOS flash and its rock solid
[04:52] <gbear14275> light on graphics and such but for most tasks its capable
[04:52] <gbear14275> well if you believe its a bios problem you can flash your bios without the CD ROM
[04:52] <hellhound> what directory are sound files found for the system alerts?
[04:52] <skrypt> ty  Izinucs
[04:53] <evilGUI> next machine I get needs to have decent graphics I'm sick of this via stuff
[04:53] <Izinucs> skrypt: np
[04:53] <faryshta> gbear14275, what you mean by that?
[04:53] <Marfi> alright, i have a computer with a nvidia go 6100 that im trying to get to boot with the live disk. its comming up with a gray screen after it loads the splash, and loads xfce or gdm. how do i drop the video settings to get it installed?
[04:53] <gbear14275> faryshta: sorry, that was to you... I flashed my BIOS by downloading a script... you don't need your CD Drive to repair it
[04:53] <faryshta> !ati
[04:53] <gbear14275> faryshta: you did say you suspected your BIOS was damaged right?
[04:54] <faryshta> gbear14275, yeah.
[04:54] <nbeebo> !php
[04:54] <faryshta> !ati | evilGUI
[04:54] <Izinucs> Marfi: you might just need to use the alternate install cd.. the 6xxx series nvidia cards are rock solid and work well. there's something that blocking correct setup on boot..
[04:54] <amiri> Hey folks. Does anyone know how to remove packages from a particular repository?
[04:55] <evilGUI> I have my video working fine 3D just sucks in general
[04:55] <Marfi> Izinucs, any way i can do it from the regular cd without downloading the alt cd? doing it for a friend, and hes leaving in the AM
[04:55] <Izinucs> evilGUI: what card do you have
[04:55] <polywaffle> evilGUI go buy another one
[04:55] <evilGUI> it's a laptop
[04:55] <cchapman> evilGUI: NVIDIA 6100 series?
[04:55] <evilGUI> can't
[04:55] <Izinucs> Marfi: hang on.
[04:55] <evilGUI> no a via unichrome
[04:55] <polywaffle> evilGUI can't you get external graphics cards?
[04:55] <Marfi> Izinucs, kk
[04:55] <Quagmire> its 68 degrees outside LOL
[04:56] <skrypt> polywaffle, external graphics cards??
[04:56] <polywaffle> yes
[04:56] <polywaffle> ive heard of them before
[04:56] <Quagmire> I swear ...screw all that nasty weather
[04:56] <mkquist> hey all - trying to batch rename, but having problem removing first part of filenames and leaving just the ends
[04:56] <polywaffle> somewhere
[04:56] <garryfre> Its snowing heavy outside.
[04:56] <skrypt> lol, don't think so mate
[04:56] <hellhound> is there a way to have evolution run in the background and either have a tray icon or a message pop (that when clicked will open evolution) when I have a calendar event alarm, task alarm, and new email
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: hi. i compiled that module in my kernel,  snd_hda_intel
[04:56] <cchapman> Quagmire: its freaking 20 below zero here
[04:56] <gbear14275> faryshta: you found this site yet? http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_5100.html
[04:56] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: ok
[04:56] <wesleyy> well done
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: that was all that was needed :-)
[04:57] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: :D so it is working now?
[04:57] <Izinucs> Marfi: when you get the grey screen click ctrl+alt+f3 and it should drop you to a text prompt screen that you can actually see.. try that and let me know if it worked
[04:57] <faryshta> gbear14275, thanks I am looking it. but seems only have bios for windows.
[04:57] <gbear14275> anyone know how to associate IRC links?  I would love for them to actually work right on this machine
[04:57] <Quagmire> !weather 29601
[04:57] <wesleyy> Izinucs: you must have an awesome mouse if it has those buttons on it :P
[04:57] <Marfi> Izinucs, kk, hold on
[04:57] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: yep.. i now have sound in linux-image-2.6.28-rc8-git2
[04:58] <wesleyy> onetinsoldier: w00ties! congrats
[04:58] <Marfi> Izinucs, will that bring me a terminal?
[04:58] <amiri> I installed some packages from an experimental repository, and I am trying to remove them all in one fell swoop. Does anyone know how to remove packages by repo or by date even?
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> wesleyy: i agree.. w00t! thanks
[04:58] <Izinucs> Marfi: yes.. did it do that?
[04:58] <gbear14275> BIOS is actually mostly OS neutral so even though it says windows it will work for Linux as well
[04:58] <gerbil> hi.  does anyone use moblock
[04:58] <Marfi> Izinucs, booting it right now, gonna try it once i hear the yummy ubuntu music
[04:58] <gbear14275> Linux is actually not dependent on BIOS but aspects of it rely on BIOS info
[04:59] <gbear14275> faryshta: sorry that was to you... i'm forgetting to use your name... sorry
[04:59] <djet13> Help Needed: I'm attempting to install Ubuntu on a Macbook using CD, but no matter what I do, if I boot from the CD, I simply get a textual menu with Boot: where I'm able to enter text, but no matter what I enter it complains about no finding a kernel image. If I simply press enter it says the same thing, but with linux at the end. Like "Cannot find kernel image: linux"
[05:00] <Izinucs> djet13: sounds like a bad burn.. the iso must be burned s.l.o.w.
[05:00] <faryshta> gbear14275, well, then why it don't recognize my cd-rom, and can't boot from there?
[05:00] <evilGUI> djet13: is it a bad burn?
[05:00] <faryshta> just asking gbear14275
[05:00] <djet13> evilGUI: i mean it's possible. i verified the burn after burning it though and it checked out fine.
[05:00] <gbear14275> faryshta: have you checked your BIOS settings?
[05:00] <idejmcd> anyone have the problem in firefox where it is larger than the actual screen size?
[05:00] <Quagmire> oops ...I'm so sorry I thought I was typing that in another channel ...sorry
[05:00] <Marfi> djet13, did you download the right cd for the processor?
[05:01] <djet13> Marfi, yes
[05:01] <evilGUI> djet13: it's a intel macbook correct?
[05:01] <gbear14275> and honestly... I don't know enough about linux device recognition and the drivers to be able to answer that
[05:01] <Izinucs> idejmcd: the web page or the entire FF window?
[05:01] <djet13> Marfi: yes it is. i downloaded the i386 version
[05:01] <Marfi> Izinucs, its not bringing up a workspace
[05:02] <idejmcd> lzinucs: the entire ff window
[05:02] <Izinucs> idejmcd: maybe wrong resolution for the screen.. or can you resize it.. dragging?
[05:02] <gbear14275> so... anyone here have the pulseaudio equalizer on the machine?
[05:02] <faryshta> gbear14275, yeah, the CD-ROM wasn't there.
[05:03] <Marfi> Izinucs, ctrl alt backspace resets it though...but the screen doesn't do anything
[05:03] <ja660k> how can i change my computers name...? when you install ubuntu you choose a name, i would like to change it, cmd line preferred
[05:03] <djet13> Marfi: so you think i should try reburning?
[05:03] <rdw200169> gbear14275: what are you talking about, an additional module for pulseaudio i haven't heard about?
[05:03] <Izinucs> Marfi: arg.. that's strange.. does the computer have an onboard video card and a seperate card that the monitor is plugged into?
[05:03] <iHome> i feel gedit nowadays not quick enough for me, any suggestion for an easy change-to?
[05:03] <Marfi> Izinucs, laptop, and its an onboard nvidia 6100
[05:03] <Marfi> djet13, i would say yea
[05:04] <djet13> Marfi: Gotcha. Thanks for the help!
[05:04] <gbear14275> rdw200169: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[05:04] <evilGUI> iHome: nano =P
[05:04] <idejmcd> lzinucs: it's not a consistent problem, so i don't think that it has to do with the resolution of the window.  it happens when i click a link and the browser is on a different desktop
[05:04] <Izinucs> Marfi ctrl+alt+f3 or f2 does nothing?
[05:04] <gbear14275> rdw200169: system wide equalizer
[05:04] <rdw200169> iHome: you can use pico (nano) like evilGUI suggests
[05:04] <rdw200169> gbear14275: that would be sweet, do you have a link for it?
[05:04] <iHome> evilGUI: let me check in a sec ...
[05:04] <idejmcd> but if i do a full screen and then back to reg screen it fixes (using f11 shortcut)
[05:04] <Marfi> Izinucs, nada. doesn't flicker or anything
[05:05] <discord_> I cannot play a dvd on ubuntu but can in windows. I have libdvdread installed, can anybody help?
[05:05] <Izinucs> idejmcd: sounds like a weird quirk on your system.. mine doesn't do that.. sorry no more suggestions.
[05:05] <rdw200169> gbear14275: i'm pretty good with mangling the pulseaudio configs, sychronous output and such, and that would be useful!
[05:05] <Marfi> discord_, need to run a script to get it to run
[05:05] <iHome> rdw200169: i m doing basic php coding, and sometimes manipulate data. eg today: 100,000 lines of 50 chars, replace " with ' and gedit got stuck
[05:05] <ja660k> use vim
[05:05] <discord_> Marfi: which script
[05:05] <rdw200169> iHome: you may want to consider vim,
[05:05] <Marfi> discord_, actually, you need libdvdcss2
[05:05] <Izinucs> Marfi: if you download the alternate cd using bittorrent (or similar prog) it should download quick..  that might be the solution...
[05:06] <gbear14275> rdw200169: I was really looking for a GUI based equalizer for the system and got pointed to pulseaudio... I think i just realized its not gui based here...
[05:06] <iHome> rdw200169: vim is the last to learn. someone suggest 1 year ago, never learn howto do with vim
[05:06] <Marfi> Izinucs, ok, ill check the speed o the download. once i have it, what do i do? will it give me different boot options  via the vid drivers?
[05:06] <rdw200169> iHome: they have some crazy useful features, for replace like that, it would be s/"/' or something like that
[05:06] <rdw200169> iHome: i can't remember if it would require escapes, regardless, it's useful
[05:06] <rdw200169> gbear14275: i don't know, but pulseaudio does have a taskbar applet which is incredibly useful
[05:07] <iHome> rdw200169: same with ereg, i never got a clue what-to-do :D
[05:07] <gbear14275> iHome: if you like gedit... this might interest you
[05:07] <gbear14275> iHome: http://www.micahcarrick.com/09-29-2007/gedit-html-editor.html
[05:07] <rdw200169> iHome: yeah, vim is a pain for a while, but it's well worth the effort
[05:07] <iHome> rdw200169: well. i m looking for retire soon.
[05:07] <rdw200169> iHome: you can also try something like pida (http://pida.co.uk/)
[05:07] <gbear14275> rdw200169: is it an additional package or?  where do i find it/get to it at?
[05:07] <kint0o> can someone help me figure out how to install the pvrusb2 stuff?  i'm having some difficulties with the directions
[05:07] <rdw200169> iHome: it's an IDE that integrates vim or emacs, moo in the future
[05:08] <iHome> rdw200169: ok thanks
[05:08] <Izinucs> Marfi: the alternate cd is a text installer only .. there won't be a gui at all.. just on screen instructions.. it's easy.. you might do your friend a favor when installing and manually do the partitioning.. root 8-12 gigs.. /swap at 1 gig and the rest for /home.. that way if he needs to reinstall in the future he can without loosing all his data in /home
[05:09] <rdw200169> gbear14275: it's called 'pulse audio device chooser', i think in synaptic it's padevchooser, search for pulse audio in synaptic and you should find it pretty quickly
[05:09] <gbear14275> iHome: there also is a program in the ubuntu repos called gphpedit that is basically a customized gedit instance that is very nice... might think about it if you are trying to find an IDE
[05:09] <Marfi> Izinucs, yea, thats kind of how i have mine set up. =) aight, thank you much!
[05:09] <Izinucs> Marfi: np... good luck
[05:09] <gbear14275> rdw200169: ok... Ive got that running already
[05:09] <rdw200169> iHome: or cream, which is a easier version of vim
[05:09] <defn> Anyone have a recommendation on a command line music player that can do mp3s and audio cds?
[05:10] <rdw200169> defn: the xmms2 package can do that
[05:10] <kint0o> defn mplayer
[05:10] <defn> i like mocp, but it doesn't do both
[05:10] <Izinucs> defn: there's one that's been around forever that has 3 letters to the name .. sorry can't remember it..
[05:10]  * defn 's eyes bulge out when he sees the xmms2 dependencies scroll by
[05:11] <kint0o> can anyone give me a hand w/ pvrusb2 drivers?
[05:11] <gbear14275> rdw200169: i noticed it does some advanced stream monitoring, routing and volume control but I'm really looking for a GUI based equalizer
[05:11] <wesleyy> where is the good old xmms GUI front end?
[05:11] <wesleyy> xmms2 has nothing
[05:11] <iHome> rdw200169: mmm. interesting. text-edit is one of the first application we need. hope gedit(the ubuntu-default) will be better tomorrow?
[05:11] <defn> Izinucs: are you thinking of mpc and nmpc?
[05:11] <Izinucs> defn: moc is one
[05:11] <defn> err yea
[05:11] <Izinucs> defn: could be.. synaptic shows one called moc too
[05:11] <defn> yeah moc rules
[05:11] <faryshta> someone know how to upgrade, the bios on Linux?
[05:11] <Omoikane__> does anyone know how to backup all of the bookmarks, passwords and logins for firefox?
[05:11] <defn> Izinucs: yeah it's called moc, but it runs as `mocp`
[05:12] <kint0o> screenshot for pw's
[05:12] <rdw200169> iHome: who knows, there's so much animosity when it comes to that, that there will likely never be an end; the vim and emacs guys have been fighting it our for years :)
[05:12] <kint0o> exprot bookmarks to html file
[05:12] <defn> Izinucs: if only it did audio cds
[05:12] <defn> :(
[05:12] <iHome> rdw200169: pida look nice to me, nano looks like vim, and i m not in a mood to try
[05:12] <rdw200169> iHome: well, more like decades now
[05:12] <jpastore> I installed sshd on my laptop and I cna't ssh to it over my lan. I generated the RSA key the service is running and there is no rules in iptables. Is there somethign else filtering connection? I can't even ping the box. it gets out to eh internet and the rest of the entwork just fine
[05:12] <gbear14275> ok, so my goal which I failed miserably was to look into how to customize my desktop... anyone have any good guides
[05:13] <gbear14275> the main function I am looking to do is embed some system info into the wallpaper
[05:13] <faryshta> Omikane_, What i do is to install google toolbar.
[05:13] <faryshta> then same my bookmarks there.
[05:13] <rdw200169> iHome: there's also editra, it does search and replace
[05:13] <faryshta> about configurations, I don't know.
[05:13] <eseven73> Omoikane__: 'cp ~/.mozilla ~/backups'  (create backups folder if you dont already have one of course)
[05:13] <gbear14275> i've got "screenlets" installed right now but I'm not sure thats what I'm looking for
[05:13] <Omoikane__> Faryshta I have to reinstall firefox
[05:13] <jbmigel> Omoikane__ you can 'export' your bookmarks from the customize menu
[05:14] <iHome> rdw200169: what do you use? not gedit and not vim
[05:14] <Madpilot> Anyone here ever used hugin to actually create panorama photos? Every time I try it it either crashes or throws an error while attempting to generate either the preview or the actual pano image...
[05:14] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: you still wondering how to backup the bookmarks?
[05:14] <usser> Omoikane__, just backup .mozilla folder from your home directory
[05:14] <rdw200169> iHome: i use pida, with vim
[05:14] <defn> jbmigel: when you say 'export' your bookmarks, it sounds like you're talking about pooping
[05:14] <iHome> rdw200169: oh dear. gedit finally finish the replace 10-15 minutes !
[05:14] <faryshta> Omikane_, the configurations files are on /home/USER/.mozilla
[05:14] <gbear14275> wow... can someone look over a warning I got to sanity check it for me please?
[05:14] <rdw200169> defn: the correct term is 'defecate'
[05:14] <skrypt> when you add a new source to your repository, how do you get the public key?
[05:15] <defn> rdw200169: no, i'm pretty sure it's poop-- turds actually.
[05:15] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup and then restart FF and see if that fixes things..
[05:15] <faryshta> I think will be enough to save that folder Omikane_
[05:15] <jbmigel> defn well i dont even want to talk about importing them back in then
[05:15] <defn> lol
[05:15] <iHome> rdw200169: me still in honeymoon with gedit. still want to keep it for a while :D
[05:15] <defn> ahh, toilet humor
[05:15] <faryshta> gbarberi, what is your warning?
[05:15] <gbear14275> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85428/  this seems like a lot of packages here should be pretty... fundamental... but maybe not
[05:16] <skrypt> when you add a new source to your repository, how do you get the public key?
[05:16] <Madpilot> gbear14275, most of those are fonts or something to do with Java
[05:16] <gbear14275> iHome: did you get that customizing gedit link?
[05:16] <gbear14275> Madpilot: So nothing fundamental to the OS or common programs?
[05:17] <Madpilot> gbear14275, doesn't look like it. You're upgrading to 7.10, it looks like?
[05:17] <mrjake> since i upgraded to 8.10 my tnt2 doesnt work anymore. nvidia doesnt seem to be in a hurry to release a driver. can i downgrade xorg on 8.10 or i must reinstall 8.04
[05:17] <rww> skrypt: depends on the repository. many of them have instructions for doing that. Some don't have public keys (e.g. launchpad PPAs)
[05:17] <Madpilot> gbear14275, 8.10, I meant...
[05:18] <iHome> gbear14275: sorry , missed your link, please paste the link again here ?
[05:18] <gbear14275> Madpilot: I'm running 8.10 right now but did try out vuze and had some problems uninstalling it... that could be it
[05:18] <gbear14275> iHome: check this out http://www.micahcarrick.com/09-29-2007/gedit-html-editor.html
[05:18] <iHome> gbear14275: gedit was good, not sure why it slow down after 8.04
[05:18] <skrypt> rww, google
[05:18] <Madpilot> gbear14275, odd. I'm pretty sure I got that set of packages to be removed @ some point in the upgrade process
[05:18] <skrypt> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[05:18] <skrypt> I'm also trying to update OpenOffice to 3
[05:18] <gbear14275> Madpilot: but I've been running 8.10 for a while.. just did a apt-get autoremove
[05:19] <Omoikane__> izinucs okay it worked but how do I reload my books marks & stuff.
[05:19] <bruenig> sdfkjlaso;dfj
[05:19] <Madpilot> gbear14275, ah, that's where I saw it. Apt is pretty intelligent, so let it yank stuff if it says it's OK.
[05:19] <gbear14275> Madpilot: any of that the firefox java capability?
[05:19] <gbear14275> Madpilot: ok thanks
[05:19] <mrjake> nvidia driver is broken with 8.10 since it ships with xorg 1.5 what are my option apart buying a new card which is not an option in this old thing
[05:20] <Madpilot> gbear14275, I don't think so, but java's easy to re-install if it needs to be
[05:20] <teko> which is the best irc client for ubuntu ?
[05:20] <rww> skrypt: http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/aboutkey.html . If you're upgrading to OO.org3 using the PPA, that falls under "PPAs don't have keys"
[05:20] <rww> !best | teko
[05:20] <gbear14275> mrjake: are you getting random errors on restart or boot?  I've had mangled screens twice now
[05:21] <Threetimes> How do I (temporaty) disable PulseAudio?
[05:21] <mrjake> gbear14275, i have 2 TNT2 cards and they wont work with xorg 1.5 and nvidia doesnt plan to make them work for a while
[05:21] <gbear14275> mrjake: ahh... sorry to hear, my graphics are just flaking out from time to time... unsure why
[05:21] <mrjake> my question is more like can i downgrade xorg or ubuntu to where i was so i can keep my dual screen instead of being stuck in vesa
[05:22] <iHome> gbear14275: interesting. gedit can be that powerful? well. i only need it fast as it was in 7.04
[05:22] <Kagura> Can anyone help me ? read this plz ty! https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/54498
[05:22] <polywaffle> my question is: what is a question?
[05:22] <Omoikane__> izinucs okay it worked for fixing ff but I'm still missing my bookmarks.
[05:22] <onetinsoldier> rdw200169: hello.. can you hear me today?
[05:22] <Threetimes> How do I (temporary) disable PulseAudio?
[05:23] <iHome> gbear14275: good article, will learn soon
[05:23] <spanther> does linux have 100% 3D acceleration cappable full opensource drivers included for the intel GMA950 included inside the Wind PC ?
[05:23] <gbear14275> iHome: if you want i also found a program in the repos called gphpEdit  I suggest it
[05:23] <mrjake> so anyway you can downgrade xorg in ubuntu 8.10
[05:23] <gbear14275> iHome: it looks like a gedit php specialization similar to what that article will give you
[05:23] <musicrazyjavier> hola
[05:23] <onetinsoldier> Threetimes: try: sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[05:24] <musicrazyjavier> cual es el canal en español para ubuntu
[05:24] <musicrazyjavier> ?
[05:24] <onetinsoldier> !es
[05:24] <musicrazyjavier> gracias
[05:24] <iHome> gbear14275: ok. what's the link :D
[05:24] <onetinsoldier> de nada
[05:24] <Kagura> #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <gbear14275> iHome: go to add/remove or synaptic and type php
[05:24] <gbear14275> look through a bit
[05:25] <iHome> gbear14275: ok thanks
[05:25] <Threetimes> onetinsoldier: I've heard that that's not enough
[05:25] <discord_> spanther: I think so
[05:25] <gbear14275> iHome: i pulled down 3 which i looked at; Geany, gphpedit, and xscream
[05:25] <onetinsoldier> Threetimes: roger. i don't know then
[05:25] <mrjake> anyone knows how to downgrade xorg in 8.10 or how to downgrade back to 8.04
[05:25] <almark1> I have a question about getting sun java to work in ubuntu, its installed but the java site says its not, what do I need to do ?
[05:25] <discord_> i'm only getting 2/Mb's a sec from my dvd rom but read I should be getting 8
[05:25] <Threetimes> ok, anybody else then?
[05:26] <onetinsoldier> almark1: for your web browser? are you using 64-bit?
[05:26] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: ok now you have to revert back.. mv ~/.mozilla.backup ~/.mozilla . this will put the "old" Ff back to where it was.. then export your bookmarks to a file on your desktop.. (you'll find the tool under Tools i think).. once done do this again.. mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup
[05:26] <iHome> gbear14275: i m actually looking for basic text-editors. i do not mind check php manuals when i forgot the function names etc
[05:26] <almark1> onetinsoldier: don't you ever sleep ;)  for 32 bit and firefox
[05:26] <discord_> i'm only getting 2/Mb's a sec from my dvd rom but read I should be getting 8, i tried loading the ata_piix module, anybody know how i can get this thing working at its fastest?
[05:26] <onetinsoldier> almark1: oh yes.. bedtime for me soon
[05:27] <almark1> onetinsoldier: you on all day long? man what commentment
[05:27] <spanther> discord_: so i will get 3D acceleration without any needed configurations on the fly? :)
[05:27] <onetinsoldier> almark1: make sure you have  sun-java6-plugin  installed
[05:27] <discord_> spanther: yes
[05:27] <almark1> onetinsoldier: I have the apt-get install I can't rem but its the sun one.
[05:28] <spanther> discord_: well thank you then for this helpful information :) i'll get this nettop very soon i've ordered it actually
[05:28] <discord_> i'm only getting 2/Mb's a sec from my dvd rom but read I should be getting 8, i tried loading the ata_piix module, anybody know how i can get this thing working at its fastest?
[05:28] <discord_> spanther: enjoy
[05:28] <spanther> i was curious how good intel supports open drivers :)
[05:28] <sonofC4> I wanna do animations like Picture to Picture frame by frame cartooning but no programs work on my system
[05:28] <core7> SHLA
[05:29] <almark1> onetinsoldier: isn't it the java6-jre one?
[05:29] <Omoikane__> izinucs Okay, I put  mv ~/.mozilla.backup ~/.mozilla in and my book marks are still missing... ;(
[05:29] <iHome> gbear14275: i installed both, see who will last for me :D thanks again
[05:29] <Izinucs> sonofC4: like an animated gif?  Gimp will do that
[05:29] <Milos> Anyone here have any idea why uptime always says 1 user even when the console is logged out and there is nobody on SSH?
[05:29] <onetinsoldier> almark1: dpkg -l sun-java6-plugin   if it's not installed, then: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[05:29] <retilgam> guys how come when i install ubuntu i can load the installer but syas it can't detect the cd-rom
[05:30] <jbmigel> Milos how are you viewing uptime if youre not logged on?
[05:30] <Omoikane__> izinucs Have lost them?
[05:30] <Milos> jbmigel, PHP script
[05:30] <Milos> jbmigel, when logged in it says 2 users
[05:30] <almark1> onetinsoldier: thanks
[05:30] <Milos> jbmigel, sorry no
[05:30] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: did you restart FF?
[05:30] <Milos> jbmigel, it still says 1
[05:30] <onetinsoldier> almark1: you're welcome :-)
[05:30] <Milos> jbmigel, when logged in through SSH it says 2 users
[05:30] <retilgam> no one?
[05:30] <Omoikane__> izinucs Yes
[05:30] <Stoffer> I'm trying to instal unbuntu on my friend's sony vaio, with a setup that dual boots with vista
[05:31] <jbmigel> Milos mine too... put on your tinfoil hat :P
[05:31] <madmn_> can anyone tell me how to fix gcc
[05:31] <Stoffer> unfortunately he only has vista on a restore partition, so I tried to just resize his vista partition with gparted and then instal ubuntu in the free space
[05:31] <Milos> jbmigel, wha?
[05:31] <madmn_> upgrade it so that it works in ubuntu
[05:31] <Stoffer> but somehow the windows boot manager can't find the instal now
[05:31] <Stoffer> this should work right?
[05:31] <nbeebo> how can i see when i installed ubuntu?
[05:31] <retilgam> ?
[05:31] <Milos> ?
[05:31] <nbeebo> ?
[05:31] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: when you first mv'd the original file.. did you spell it the same way you did the second time.. you can check by going to Places>Home and then hitting CTRL+H to show hidden files.. look for it there and verify the spelling
[05:32] <retilgam> No one can help me with the installer, how it starts up but it doesn't recgonize the CD DRIVE
[05:32] <[TiZ]> Hi. I downloaded an imagemagick script that resizes and crops an image to a desired aspect ratio. The only problem is that in the script, it has the character "^" at the end of its geometry string. I saw that string on the internet in another guide for what I'm trying to do. But apparently, my version of ImageMagick doesn't support it. When I give it a geometry string that has ^ at the end, it says that it's invalid. What's going on here?
[05:32] <\Kira> is anybody here ever set up a sauerbraten server? Im wondering about the system requirements, there doesnt seem to be any resources on google
[05:33] <jpastore> is there a way to allow inbound connections to a wireless device? I can connect to my box via ssh on the eth0 just not the wlan0
[05:33] <Izinucs> [TiZ]: that ^ might mean "return"
[05:33] <nickrud> nbeebo, /var/log/installer/*
[05:33] <madmn_> how can i update gcc compiler
[05:33] <Milos> jbmigel, so... you're not sure why it's doing that for me? Or is it normal o.o
[05:34] <jbmigel> Milos if you look at 'top' you will see that user root is running all your deamons... and then when you log in to look at it you will see 2 users cuz you count aswell as root
[05:34] <[TiZ]> lzinucs: Return? Why? It's just at the end of a geometry string, for example: 1280x800
[05:34] <whyameye> jpastore: they should already be allowed. I assume you aren't running a firewall?
[05:34] <Milos> jbmigel, so it's supposed to say 1 user logged in all the time?
[05:34] <GodfatherofEire> Sorta dumb question, but I'm drawin a blank on it atm. Location of xorg.conf?
[05:34] <Izinucs> [TiZ]: just guessing.. doesn't make sense to me either.. sorry
[05:34] <nickrud> madmn_, update gcc? you mean you want a later version than is in intrepid?
[05:34] <faryshta> madmn_, if sudo apt-get upgrade don't work, then you need to add some repository file to the sources.list
[05:34] <jpastore> whyameye, no iptables -nL yeilds no rules.
[05:35] <jbmigel> Milos yes dont sweat it
[05:35] <Omoikane__> izinucs I typed this first mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.backup then mv ~/.mozilla.backup ~/.mozilla there seems to be a .mozilla.backup in .mozilla
[05:35] <Boohbah> GodfatherofEire: /etc/X11
[05:35] <[TiZ]> lzinucs: It's alright. Thanks. :)
[05:35] <jbmigel> Milos if you login as root you can see it still says 1
[05:35] <GodfatherofEire> Boohbah, thanks
[05:35] <jpastore> whyameye, again I can connect to the wired side fine.
[05:35] <Milos> jbmigel, aaaah. I get it now. Don't really appeal to me... but I can live with it ;)
[05:35] <Milos> Thanks!Q
[05:35] <Milos> Thanks! *
[05:35] <whyameye> jpastore: when you connect out you are sure it is going thru the wireless?
[05:35] <Milos> Doesn't * not don't. D:
[05:36] <almark1> onetinsoldier: It worked thanks again :)
[05:36] <jpastore> whyameye yea. wireless is .101 wired is .104 I checked with ifconfig and I'm tryign to connect using putty
[05:36] <jpastore> whyameye I see forums posts with other people ahving this exact same issue
[05:36] <nbeebo> nickrud, syslog?
[05:36] <onetinsoldier> almark1: you're welcome :-)
[05:36] <whyameye> jpastore: what version of ubuntu? I ssh into wireless all the time and have done so since Breezy.
[05:36] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: use nautilus to do it with the gui instead of the command line.. might be easier.. just right mouse click on the files you need to rename.. you can't have .mozilla inside a .mozilla.backup because they are not directories but text files.
[05:37] <nickrud> nbeebo, yeah, mine starts about 15 minutes before the timestamps of the files. But I figured the date would be enough :)
[05:37] <whyameye> jpastore: can you ping 101?
[05:37] <jpastore> whyameye, 8.10 I have been able to in previous versions...I just did a fresh install and no love
[05:37] <whyameye> jpastore: ah. I am on 8.04.
[05:37] <jpastore> whyameye, no but I can ping 104. when the wire is not plugged in mI can ping out but not in on the wifi
[05:38] <jpastore> alright I don't care enough anymore I'm going to bed I'll try again tmr
[05:38] <whyameye> jpastore: I am always suspicious of Network Manager but I don't know in this case.
[05:38] <asare> sup rooms
[05:39]  * Vantrax waves
[05:39] <almark1> onetinsoldier: Do you know much about say for example, I install a program with apt-get now apt-get downloads the program and installs it. But sometimes depending on the program a kernel is installed, does that new kernel work or will it work with my system, will it still have realtime capabilties?
[05:39] <Omoikane__> izinucs .mozilla isn't in .mozilla.backup. .mozilla.backup is inside .mozilla
[05:40] <Marfi> Izinucs, got the cd, and working on the install now
[05:40] <Vantrax> almark1, apt will update the programs when it installs a new kernel if need be. Very few programs break, and usually they are ones you had to kernel patch yourself
[05:40] <\Kira> whats that build in linux network monitering program called? It shows ARP requests and stuff. Net something. Does anyone know?
[05:40] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: either way it doesn't make any sense..
[05:40] <Izinucs> Marfi: cool.. let me know how it goes.
[05:41] <Vantrax> \Kira, You talking about netstat?
[05:41] <Brack101> my pidgin keeps freezing up when I use AIM
[05:41] <Brack101> is there some kind of log I can view to see what's going on?
[05:41] <jbmigel> Omoikane__ try to find 'bookmarks.html' somewhere in your backup
[05:41] <Boohbah> \Kira: tcpdump
[05:42] <\Kira> Vantrax: No, the program Im thinking of has a constant output.
[05:42] <almark1> Vantrax: I am using Ubuntu Studio, and I have like 3 kernels should I just let it decide, I'm used to setting a kernel up, not letting it do it on its own? Will it still have rt ?
[05:42] <Boohbah> \Kira: or the gtk+ frontend wireshark
[05:42] <\Kira> Vantrax: Boohbah just told me it :)
[05:42] <Vantrax> \Kira tcpdump probably then
[05:42] <\Kira> Boohbah: exactly! thanks
[05:42] <Boohbah> \Kira: also check out IPtraf, it's like tcpdump with curses
[05:42] <Brack101> oh also since I installed ggl-gtk, x11 doesn't start by default
[05:42] <\Kira> Boohbah: curses?
[05:42] <Vantrax> almark1, are you actively using the three kernels
[05:43] <worldcitizen> hey, I just downloaded synfig studio from the add/remove apps. When I start it the splash screen for the program pops up, then the program will start loading, then stop running. How can I figure out what the problem is?
[05:43] <\Kira> Boohbah: what are curses?
[05:43] <teko> what is synaptics ?
[05:43] <Boohbah> \Kira: curses is the command line gui library for drawing boxes and such
[05:44] <almark1> Vantrax: No, but I had to use a eariler one due to the last one that was automatically made not working, I want to install lm sensors, that will install another kernel and add on the menu.lst, just need to clear this up
[05:44] <\Kira> Boohbah: I see, thanks
[05:44] <Boohbah> teko: they manufactured my laptop touchpad...
[05:44] <Omoikane__> izinucs okay, sorry. I had to take a second to figure it out. the bookmarks are back so where do we go from here?
[05:44] <teko> no i need it for the universe repository to install ghc
[05:44] <Boohbah> \Kira: iptraf is nice because it shows stateful connection information rather than single packets, a higher level view than a raw tcpdump
[05:44] <Vantrax> almark1, sounds like its managing it itself, I would guess it would be ok not having installed it myself
[05:45] <Boohbah> teko: that would be synaptic, the ubuntu package manager
[05:45] <mkquist> anyone help with batch renaming files.. trying to remove first part of file name and leave end the same
[05:45] <\Kira> Boohbah: okay, I get it. I think ill look into that. thanks :)
[05:45] <teko> where do i get that ?
[05:45] <defn> mkquist: ask in #bash
[05:45] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: go to Bookmarks>Organize Bookmarks and you'll see the backup option at the top right of the window.
[05:45] <mkquist> defn: ty
[05:45] <almark1> Vantrax: I think letting it have its way, is the only way, I said last CUSTOM instal of Ubuntu if you can't be the thing join it.
[05:46] <almark1> beat
[05:46] <Omoikane__> izinucs okay
[05:46] <almark1> what is the best cpu temp program to use in ubuntu? and what apt-get install do I use?
[05:47] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: save them where you can find them.. then delete .mozilla .. restart FF and then Bookmarks>Organze Bookmarks and restore
[05:48] <nbeebo> how to open .sqlite files? i downloaded sqlite from ubuntu repo but no clue how to use it, even with man...
[05:48] <ice_cream> almark1, you can have some system monitor show it, like gkrellm
[05:48] <almark1> would *lm_sensors* be the program, or something else?
[05:48] <hellhound> is there a way to have evolution run in the background and either have a tray icon or a message pop (that when clicked will open evolution) when I have a calendar event alarm, task alarm, and new email
[05:48] <srip> are there any ubuntu developers here??
[05:48] <almark1> ice_cream: do I need to install lm_sensors first?
[05:48] <Vantrax> srip, unlikely, you might get a MOTU if your lucky
[05:49] <nbeebo> ok nevermind
[05:49] <ice_cream> i dont know what that is, and dont see it in aptitude
[05:49] <almark1> ice_cream: its named somthing else like applet or something, will gkrellm have everything with it?
[05:49] <ice_cream> that's not a package name
[05:49] <srip> i installed ubuntu8.04 removed totem and installed mplayer via synaptic,now its not booting
[05:49] <Boohbah> nbeebo: sqlite database.db < dump.sql
[05:50] <Izinucs> hellhound: evolution data server is alway running even when evo isn't .. it's tied to the date up by the clock and will remind you of appointments.. check it out by making an appointment 5 mins in the future then close Evo.
[05:50] <srip> is ubuntu any good??
[05:50] <almark1> ice_cream: oh
[05:50] <Boohbah> srip: no
[05:50] <Vantrax> srip, depends what you want, but generally yes
[05:50] <srip>  i installed ubuntu8.04 removed totem and installed mplayer via synaptic,now its not booting
[05:50] <whyameye> srip: I don't think mplayer or totem is why your machine isn't booting. Something else is going on.
[05:50] <Izinucs> srip: that wouldn't have coused it.
[05:50] <Vantrax> srip, its not either of those
[05:51] <gbear14275> so i just installed conky via synaptic and am wondering how to get to the application... does it have GUI?
[05:51] <ice_cream> almark1, i see something called wmtemp i guess..    gkrellm is highly configurable.. google for screenshots.. i personally use it just for cpu temp, volume bars, and show my battery percent (laptop)
[05:51] <Vantrax> srip is it giving any errors
[05:51] <talntid> how about a specific error message, srip?
[05:51] <almark1> ice_cream: thanks :)
[05:51] <srip> the desktop is showing but the 2 tabs for application and bottom is not showing
[05:51] <ice_cream> np
[05:52] <whyameye> srip: did you try restarting again?
[05:52] <israel> somebody knows what program i can use as peer to peer client in ubuntu?, like ares in windows
[05:52] <Omoikane__> izinucs it said it was unable to process the backup file.
[05:52] <srip> yes its not rebboting.wasnt it suppoed to work poerfectly????
[05:52] <Izinucs> !p2p | israel
[05:53] <whyameye> srip: what do you mean it is not rebooting? Did you reboot a 2nd time?
[05:53] <Vantrax> gbear14275, i dont think so, you use scripts with it -> http://www.quicktweaks.com/2008/09/27/gmail-weather-beauty-right-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[05:53] <srip> yes
[05:53] <srip> i have to poweroff
[05:53] <Starcraftmazter> Hey. Does the laptop HD killer bug still exist in 8.10?
[05:53] <Vantrax> Starcraftmazter, no
[05:53] <almark1> ice_cream: does this gkrellm have temp with it, I don't see it, i just installed it, wow small
[05:53] <Starcraftmazter> oh good :D
[05:53] <Vantrax> was fixed before release
[05:53] <ari_stress> hi, wazzup guys
[05:54] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: did you restart FF before trying?
[05:54] <gbear14275> Vantrax: I want to embed the conky stats into the desktop... is that a tough config or are there alot of writeups on the subject
[05:54] <ice_cream> almark1, here's a screenshot i had from before.. conky is running in the background, and light blue on bottom left is gkrellm  http://i37.tinypic.com/2lc7kp2.jpg
[05:54] <whyameye> srip: when you right-click where the upper or lower panel was do you get a context menu?
[05:54] <Omoikane__> izinucs yes
[05:54] <srip> no
[05:54] <almark1>                    http://i37.tinypic.com/2lc7kp2.jpg
[05:54] <almark1> oops
[05:55] <israel> ubottu: which you recommend me?, thanks in advice
[05:55] <whyameye> srip: when you say you have the desktop do you literally have icons and such, or just the background picture?
[05:55] <srip> just background pic
[05:55] <Vantrax> gbear14275, head to the link i gave you
[05:55] <whyameye> srip: 8.10?
[05:55] <srip> 8.04
[05:56] <almark1> ice_cream: I see it, not a temp checker then, Nice desktop cool pic
[05:56] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: I don't know what you're doing.. but it shouldn't be doing that..I'm stuck at this point
[05:56] <nbeebo> how do i search for a word inside some files?
[05:56] <almark1> ice_cream: is that fluxbox?
[05:57] <Omoikane__> izinucs do you think something could be corrupt?
[05:57] <jbmigel> nbeebo: cat filname | grep searchword
[05:57] <ice_cream> yes
[05:57] <Omoikane__> izinucs it backed up to a .json file
[05:57] <ice_cream> what did you mean by temp checker?
[05:57] <whyameye> srip: no idea. But one thing: don't power off like that again. You need to do a clean shutdown. If you can't from the windowed environent hit <ctl><alt>f1 and login, then "sudo reboot". Also you can restart the window manager with <ctl><alt><backspace>.
[05:57] <Izinucs> Omoikane__: by the sound of it.. the bookmark backup file
[05:57] <almark1> ice_cream: lol beat you to it, I see fluxbox running in your background programs
[05:57] <nbeebo> jbmigel, how u search a whole directory?
[05:58] <ice_cream> =)
[05:58] <srip> where can i find ubuntu developers/HR
[05:58] <Jacobbs> What's the best way to partition ubuntu?
[05:58] <Jacobbs> I know you want /home and / to be on different ones
[05:58] <Axle> hello?
[05:58] <_loverboy_> jacobbs
[05:59] <_loverboy_> gparted
[05:59] <almark1> Does anyone use Blender in Ubuntu?
[05:59] <Axle> ﻿I can't access my hard drives, I have 3 in the computer, and under the media folder it shows about 5 drive folders, but they all seem to be mounted to the same folder, and I can't find the other hard drives...help?
[05:59] <Jacobbs> No no, not which program to use
[05:59] <Jacobbs> What sizes?
[05:59] <_loverboy_> jacobbs : gparted
[05:59] <Jacobbs> Let me rephrase.
[06:00] <almark1> I am having graphic problems in Ubuntu with it
[06:00] <Jacobbs> I'm installing Ubuntu on a new machine. What parition sizes should I assign to /home and root?
[06:00] <srip> why do graphics suck in ubuntu????mandriva has very good desktop theme?????
[06:00] <_loverboy_> axle : try fdisk -l in root mode
[06:00] <ice_cream> ?
[06:00] <jbmigel> nbeebo: grep searchword /put/path/here
[06:00] <Lorenzo> Hey all.  How to i use fwcutter since it is in 9 parts?
[06:01] <nbeebo> jbmigel, thank you very much
[06:01] <ice_cream> "<srip> why do graphics suck in ubuntu????mandriva has ...."   i wonder how many things are wrong with that statement
[06:01] <almark1> try 100mb or less to /home and at least 10gig that is what I have 10 or more 15 20 big drive like 100gb I suppose would be 20 gig in my opinion
[06:01] <jbmigel> nbeebo no trouble at all my friend
[06:01] <almark1> 10gig to /
[06:01] <\Kira> Since linux requires admin password to port forward, doesnt it make it impossible to bypass firewalls on a unsecured network (like school :D) if you dont have the admin pass (which I dont)
[06:01] <userbn> ai leh knalan?
[06:01] <almark1> but I have a 40gig drive
[06:02] <Axle> _loverboy_: what do I do with the list from fdisk -l?
[06:02] <userbn> ai leh kenalan ga ?
[06:02] <srip> ice_cream,my display is not good ,iuse pixels moothenig for my lcd
[06:02] <xorlim> I am used to old Linux and old Windows, and I think Ubuntu has a great desktop theme and great graphics.
[06:02] <iHome> gbear14275: geany is great :D thanks.
[06:02] <_loverboy_> it shows all the disks on your computer
[06:02] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: want to see my partition layout? i use /usr/local and make dirs in there to store stuff as well as /home ,but there is no exact measure of how much space you have to have on partitions, except for a minimum
[06:02] <_loverboy_> then you can mount the ones that are not mounted automatically with mount
[06:02] <almark1> I am sorry /home should be musch more, I thought you meant /boot my bad /home should be a good amount
[06:03] <_loverboy_> "mount" command
[06:03] <srip> isnt ubuntu supported bya millinnaire,even community developed products like fedora have better graphics
[06:03] <ice_cream> ubuntu generally has good graphics support (good default xorg config) by default
[06:03] <Jacobbs> onetinsoldier, I just made a 10gb root
[06:03] <Jacobbs> if I just leave the disk as freespace, can Ubuntu use it?
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: ok, roger
[06:03] <ice_cream> srip, ubuntu is generally considered one of the "prettier" distros
[06:03] <jbmigel> nbeebo hey i lied you need a * at the end!: grep searchword /put/path/here/*
[06:03] <Jacobbs> also, it should be a logical type right?
[06:04] <almark1> ice_cream: is there a better ati driver to use in Ubuntu Studio 8.10 I have an older card
[06:04] <Axle> thank you _loverboy_
[06:04] <ice_cream> almark1, i dont know.   google/ubuntuforums  is your friend =)
[06:04] <Izinucs> srip: ubuntu is also community developed.. just because you haven't figured out how to configure it ie, video drivers, layout etc.. don't knock it.. if you want delete and move to fedora
[06:04] <_loverboy_> :)
[06:04] <ice_cream> are your friends* =)
[06:05] <almark1> ice_cream: forums, looked here looked there, looked under a rock, no help anywhere, card is radeon ati 8500, ring a bell?
[06:05] <ice_cream> !ati
[06:05] <nbeebo> jbmigel, hmm ok :/ lol no problem, i cd'd to the path then cat * | grep searchword
[06:05]  * ice_cream shrugs
[06:05] <srip> izinucks,why isnt there a native backup tool in ubuntu?
[06:05] <ice_cream> i dont know if that is a solution or not
[06:05] <almark1> ice_cream: thanks you and your bot :)
[06:06] <ice_cream> not mine =D
[06:06] <almark1> lol
[06:06] <whyameye> almark1: I have an ati card in my old dapper machine and I haven't upgraded because my understanding is the newer ati binaries don't support the older cards.
[06:06] <Guest_585> [13:03] <almark1> ice_cream: is there a better ati driver to use in Ubuntu Studio 8.10 I have an older card   << you might be better off the "older" version of the driver and doing a manual install
[06:06] <almark1> everyones computer buddy
[06:06] <Izinucs> srip: there's lots of backup tools .. choose the one you want.. dd is installed and synaptic has a bunch of others.
[06:06] <nbeebo> jbmigel, but urs worked better.. thanks
[06:06] <jbmigel> nbeebo sweet! theres lots of ways to do it
[06:06] <almark1> whyameye: that is what I read on the net, too bad, do you have a solution
[06:07] <ice_cream> gl
[06:07]  * ice_cream goes to watch some vid
[06:07] <whyameye> almark1: my solution was not to update that machine beyond dapper. :-/
[06:07] <srip> izinucs,how to improve display in ubuntu>??in mandriva and fedora they come up automatically
[06:07] <Jacobbs> if I assign two home mount points, do they both just act as one space?
[06:07] <Izinucs> srip: you mean make your video card work?
[06:08] <almark1> whyameye: what were the consequences, no new programs, especially no Ubuntu Studio no updates ack, is that my only hope, hope not
[06:08] <RancidLM> hey all quick question i have a OLD laptop with a busted cdrom, it cannot boot from usb.. is there a way to have a bootdisk that will allow me to boot from a usb device?
[06:08] <RancidLM> because i would like to  install ubuntu on it
[06:08] <srip> izinucs,video card is working but the theme and display are not as effective as in fedora/mandriva
[06:08] <whyameye> almark1: the open source ati driver would be ok if you don't need 3D accel, I imagine.
[06:08] <gbear14275> can I safely remove all compiz packages that show up in synaptic while searching for compiz?
[06:08] <zzxxzz> Just bought new notebook, and installed ubuntu 8.10 - Notice that when a file is sent to trash, the icon remains the same, and pointing at it displays "No items in Trash", but there is and right click on "Empty Trash" Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:09] <almark1> whyameye: for the most part they work fine but they do have limits, and they are not pretty for my card, Blender crashes with DRI on :(
[06:09] <almark1> whyameye: compiz works even in the interpid version
[06:09] <Izinucs> srip: that's estetics.. make it what you want.. check out gnomelook.org and other places and get what you want.. don't knock it just becuase you don't like the initial look..
[06:10] <almark1> lol
[06:10] <whyameye> almark1: yeah, I don't know. If it isn't a laptop you could get a cheap nvidia card.
[06:10] <vimix> Izinucs, correction: gnome-look.org
[06:11] <almark1> whyameye: I have searched for 2 weeks or more for this solution, no aval, maybe its just not going to work I knew you was going to say that Nvidia I know I know.
[06:11] <almark1> whyameye: Can't afford one
[06:11] <almark1> whyameye: Laptops
[06:11] <srip> izinucks,i installed 8.04 didnot do system update,removed totem and installed mplayer...Its not rebboting now
[06:11] <whyameye> almark1: so you are using open source ati driver and glxgears looks OK?
[06:12] <onats> hi everyone
[06:12] <almark1> whyameye: oh yeah, they work fine, weird huh
[06:12] <onats> how should i partition my 500GB hard drive for ubuntu?
[06:12] <whyameye> almark1: so your big problem is that blender is crashing with DRI on?
[06:13] <jbmigel> srip do you think maybe you removed more than just totem?
[06:13] <almark1> whyameye: but I see a glitch in the glxgears window when I try to move it it just keeps making ghosts
[06:13] <srip> jbmigel,i did search in syn and removed totem related packs only
[06:14] <almark1> whyameye: that is it, and I imagine Wine will wine you know what I mean about my card and not the right verison of xorg. In Gentoo that happened to me as well, I can't fix that either.
[06:14] <whyameye> srip: give him the whole story. "Not rebooting" isn't even close to describing your problem.
[06:14] <luke_> onats, you should just follow guided partitioned table during installation
[06:14] <srip> whyameye,only the background theme shows up....no app tab
[06:14] <onats> luke, guided will create one big partition
[06:14] <almark1> whyameye: I have tryed a program called envyNG or is it HG that is suppose to install the ati version you need
[06:15] <srip> jbmigel,only the background theme shows up....no app tab
[06:15] <whyameye> almark1: yeah I used to use that before 8.04
[06:15] <luke_> yes, that's right
[06:15] <almark1> whyameye: Is there a way to downgrade xorg in 8.10 to a more compatible version for my card?
[06:15] <onats> and i dont want that..
[06:15] <jbmigel> srip well totem is a media player, it has nothing to do with your theme or desktop... you must have deleted something important
[06:16] <whyameye> almark1: I remember looking into that too. Decided it looked unlikely to succeed. But haven't tried myself.
[06:16] <Jacobbs> I have two disks, both 160gb. One disk is all /home, the other disk is split into /, swap and a bunch of space for /usr atm
[06:16] <Jacobbs> Is this a good way to do the paritioning?
[06:16] <evilGUI> Is advanced math required to learn to code in C++?
[06:16] <srip> jbmigel,isnt syanptic supposed to show only totem when we search totem
[06:16] <kindofabuzz> no
[06:16] <almark1> whyameye: I tried it, but it sent me to term and didn't connect back with xstart, I had to uninstall it. I'll try it again though
[06:16] <Jacobbs> I want the user to be able to access that space, but I am unsure of how to do so.
[06:17] <luke_> well I partition my harddisk as Jacobbs did
[06:17] <Starnestommy> evilGUI: whether or not you need to know advanced math depends on what you're coding not what language you're using
[06:17] <jbmigel> srip why dont you go troll somewhere else
[06:17] <_loverboy_> evilGUI : highschool maths is enough
[06:17] <almark1> whyameye: Usually if you can't find the answer to something, there is no answer lol
[06:17] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: should be ok, shouldn't be anything wrong with it
[06:17] <evilGUI> alright thanks
[06:17] <Jacobbs> Okay
[06:17] <whyameye> almark1: you said it's an 8500 ATI? the latest driver supposedly supports that.
[06:17] <Jacobbs> will I be able to use that space given to the /usr partition though?
[06:18] <Jacobbs> That's my only worry
[06:18] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: yes
[06:18] <almark1> whyameye: yes it is, I have read that whyameye, but how do I install that in Ubuntu?
[06:18] <srip> jbmigel,why dude ?reu on ubuntu payroll??
[06:18] <almark1> some ppl have some weird exits lol
[06:18] <whyameye> almark1: restricted or hardware drivers manager.
[06:18] <Jacobbs> Oh, I can make up mount points? O.o
[06:18] <Jacobbs> I just made up /media
[06:18] <onats> the question is, the sizes of the partition actually...
[06:18] <Jacobbs> is this cool?
[06:19] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: here.. let me show you mine....
[06:19] <whyameye> almark1: my card is a 7500 which is not in the latest ati driver support.
[06:19] <almark1> whyameye: straight from the amd.com site, I want to intall thouse
[06:19] <almark1> whyameye: I guess its my lucky day right? ;) sorry that yours isn't, but i'm not going to jump the gun just yet.
[06:19] <whyameye> almark1: why not try the ubuntu ones first? They are still the Ati proprietary drivers.
[06:20] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: hang on
[06:20] <almark1> whyameye: O.k do you know the apt-get install?
[06:20] <RakZ> Is there a way to download/install gnash from the repos for my version of Ubuntu? uname -a = Linux PS3 2.6.25-2-powerpc64-smp #1 SMP Tue Sep 30 16:40:22 UTC 2008 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[06:20] <almark1> whyameye: what to type I mean
[06:20] <whyameye> almark1: I can tell you how to do it in Gnome...
[06:21] <almark1> whyameye: The nice thing about Ubuntu, is if I mess it up to bad just reinstall ubuntu 20 min do lol ms can't do that :P
[06:21] <almark1> whyameye: Using Gnome, go ahead
[06:21] <Jacobbs> onetinsoldier, I've sent you my setup in PM
[06:21] <whyameye> almark1: system -> admin -> hardware drivers.
[06:21] <Jacobbs> take your time :)
[06:21] <djcip> help - http://pastebin.ca/1285720
[06:21] <onetinsoldier> Jacobbs: ok
[06:21] <spanther> almark1: sure ms can do that Oo but not including drivers lol :)
[06:22] <almark1> whyameye: NO I mean XP can't lol 6 hours lol
[06:22] <Marfi> Izinucs, got it installed on the system now, but the same thing with the driver is going on. any ideas?  =/
[06:22] <almark1> whyameye: If you mess up windows to bad it takes a long time I have heard and btw I use windows too.
[06:22] <spanther> almark1: i need 20minutes for a fresh install doesnt matter which OS :)
[06:23] <almark1> whyameye: you have a dual core, lucky you :P
[06:23] <whyameye> almark1: I use windows at work. I gotta go in a minute. Did system -> admin ->hardware drivers show an option for an ATI graphics driver?
[06:23] <srip> jbmigel,r u ubuntu employee/mark somebody who backed u buntu????
[06:23] <almark1> whyameye: no, I don't have any of them
[06:24] <Stargazers> Hi. What driver I should use in Ubuntu if I have graphics card what is: "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8623 [Apollo CLE266] integrated CastleRock graphics (rev 03)"
[06:24] <almark1> whyameye: I'll ask in here don't want to bother you too much
[06:24] <Stargazers> I mean, auto detection works.
[06:24] <Stargazers> But, I need manually set other configs
[06:24] <ott0> what's the best software to view the linux kernel source?
[06:24] <whyameye> almark1: lspci shows an ATI graphics card 8500 and you don't see an option for a driver in hardware drivers? weird.
[06:24] <Stargazers> But I can't find what driver I shpuld use, then?
[06:24] <almark1> whyameye: thank you for your advice
[06:24] <Stargazers> I mean, vesa not work and via also not work.
[06:24] <Stargazers> Any idea?
[06:24] <almark1> whyameye: no its blank
[06:25] <srip> jbmigel,who are u dude?
[06:25] <almark1> whyameye: lspci | grep -i ati shows it
[06:25] <whyameye> almark1: but lspci confirms ubuntu sees an 8500 ATI card?
[06:25] <almark1> whyameye: yes
[06:25] <Stargazers> So, is there any way to see what driver is currently in use?
[06:26] <almark1> whyameye: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon 8500 LE]
[06:26] <almark1> whyameye: the proof is in the pudding lol
[06:26] <ql> almark1, wat
[06:26] <rainabba_> I'm having the strangest problem running Ubuntu 8.04, Compiz (included version), and nVidia TwinView. I can't drag a window from my left screen to the right, but I can drag one from the right screen to the left. This sound like it's compiz, X, gnome, or what?
[06:26] <almark1> its a phase
[06:26] <whyameye> almark1: so envyNG didn't work because...
[06:27] <almark1> whyameye: no I'm afraid not, but I didn't have Ubuntu setup right that time, it was kinda customized for my /boot directory
[06:27] <orgthingy> how much my swap file is supposed to be?
[06:27] <orgthingy> because i manually assigned a size for it
[06:27] <orgthingy> which is around 2GB
[06:27] <srip> will linux everbe a alternative for windows desktop?i tried ubuntu/mandriva/fedora/pclinuxos nothing works properly.....
[06:27] <orgthingy> the problem is, now my startup is slower
[06:27] <orgthingy> so what should i "Return" it to?
[06:28] <almark1> whyameye: I think I will do it again.
[06:28] <orgthingy> srip : define "properly"
[06:28] <orgthingy> and its not an alternative to windows, its an alternative to UNIX
[06:28] <almark1> whyameye: Do you think that ubuntu is using mesa drivers?
[06:28] <orgthingy> thats why its Unix-like
[06:28] <orgthingy> srip : oh, and once you know how to use it properly you'll love it
[06:28] <srip> orgthingy,if i use default setup from cd it works but if i update system/add packs the system becomes unusabel
[06:29] <whyameye> almark1: if you do "glxinfo | grep render" it will tell you if direct rendering is "yes" or "no"
[06:29] <almark1> whyameye: Believe it or not, I have 3d working, I can't rotate the desktop cube with the compiz program
[06:29] <orgthingy> srip : OH REALLY?
[06:29] <orgthingy> (really?)
[06:29] <whyameye> almark1: what driver is ubuntu using now?
[06:29] <orgthingy> and how is it unusable ? srip
[06:29] <sond> whats the name if the curses based app that sets up network address subnet gateway etc ?
[06:29] <almark1> whyameye: isnt that something OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 4x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
[06:30] <almark1> whyameye: Mesa!
[06:30] <\\`oot> Hi?
[06:30] <whyameye> almark1: so direct rendering was No?
[06:30] <almark1> whyameye: oh its on it works
[06:30] <srip> orgthingy,it wont reboot/errors--lqatest printers are not supported
[06:30] <almark1> whyameye: but Blender doesn't like dri being on with mesa drivers, I have trouble shooting this thing to death
[06:31] <almark1> whyameye: sorry shooted
[06:31] <whyameye> almark1: unfortunately I do need to go. Not sure I helped much. Good luck. I think this is one you can fix, actually.
[06:31] <almark1> whyameye: to verify with you Direct Rendering is yes
[06:31] <orgthingy> srip : hmmm, it doesnt happen for me
[06:31] <almark1> whyameye: you gave me hope :) thanks
[06:31] <whyameye> almark1: I am wondering if you might be using the ati prop driver already.
[06:32] <\\`oot> does anyone use "themes" with a nice high-end vid card?
[06:32] <\\`oot> I'm having a rediculously hard time trying to figure all this out
[06:32] <orgthingy> srip : I used linux since 1998, and it wasnt that good for an average user and it was for me.. what you're saying doesnt really "make sense"
[06:32] <almark1> whyameye: man  lol I dont know I'm still new to Ubuntu a week old, i know I said I had been looking for this answer for 3 weeks but that was in Gentoo as well.
[06:33] <whyameye> almark1: you should see what the driver is by looking at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and googling to see if it is open source or ATI.
[06:33] <srip> orgthingy,win905,linux less than 1% even after ubuntu?printer support is not good
[06:33] <srip> orgthingy,win90%,linux less than 1% even after ubuntu?printer support is not good
[06:33] <\\`oot> Are any of you folks using Gnome-Art-NG?
[06:34] <almark1> whyameye: I have read my xorg.conf its empty, just a bare skeleton, I don't know where Ubuntu keeps its xorg config
[06:34] <\\`oot> for themes, window "fun-ness"?
[06:34] <jbmigel> srip why dont you go use windows then just stop crying about it
[06:34] <orgthingy> srip : yea, as if Windows supports printers
[06:34] <whyameye> almark1: also you could try apt-get installing envyng-gtk and giving that a shot again.
[06:34] <rdw200169> almark1: with ubuntu 8.10, xorg doesn't need a config file to work
[06:34] <orgthingy> srip : HP or some company have to make drivers for you @ windows because windows doesnt support any printers
[06:34] <almark1> whyameye: Ok I will
[06:34] <whyameye> almark1: uggh. Must be 8.10. I am still on 8.04
[06:34] <rdw200169> take that FloodBot1!
[06:34] <almark1> rdw200169: how do I custom fix it, I mean how do I disable say DRI?
[06:35] <almark1> whyameye: Its 8.10
[06:35] <rdw200169> almark1: i don't know, i'm still using 8.04
[06:35] <whyameye> rdw200169: so how can almark1 know for sure what drivers and config X is using?
[06:35] <almark1> rdw200169: lol thanks
[06:35] <orgthingy> srip : windows never supported any printer.. windows never supported wireless cards.etc
[06:35] <orgthingy> srip : its always 3rd party or company themselves that create drivers
[06:35] <orgthingy> srip : yet linux supports a lot of stuff "natively" because of its neat design
[06:35] <rdw200169> orgthingy: thank you, orgthingy!
[06:35] <orgthingy> and accepts 3rd aprty drivers if needed
[06:36] <almark> whyameye: that is really my nick
[06:36] <orgthingy> rdw200169 : remind me why are you thanking me :P ?
[06:36]  * \\`oot is annoyed that Gnome-Art-NG works in 8.4 but not in 8.10
[06:37] <\\`oot> grrrr
[06:37] <rdw200169> orgthingy: for reminding everyone that it's not windows, it's the manufacturers, that create drivers; thus, it's *their* fault
[06:37] <\\`oot> stupid
[06:37] <orgthingy> rdw200169 : heh :-)
[06:37] <srip> orgthingy,linux is just a wastage of resources...they are updating kernel every 6months,thousand of packages get updated,new versions released,people wasting cds etc
[06:37] <Ward1983> i have an external harddisk that i want to make a ubuntu installation on, like many do with a USB stick
[06:37] <orgthingy> srip : even google employees use linux
[06:37] <Ward1983> only the HD allready contains some files
[06:37] <orgthingy> srip : linux conquered server marketshare
[06:37] <rdw200169> srip: to each their own, we use linux.  period.
[06:37] <Ward1983> can i somehow still do it without having to copy all the files?
[06:38] <orgthingy> srip : linux has millions of users in desktop
[06:38] <\\`oot> Hello?  Hello?
[06:38] <gab3> if I want to repartition ubuntu to make room for a new windowz partition, what is the best way?
[06:38] <ari_stress> \\`oot: nice nick
[06:38] <orgthingy> srip : I have many reasons not use windows, and no i can afford to buy 10 vista licenses if i want
[06:38] <\\`oot> ari_stress: thx
[06:38] <orgthingy> so its not money
[06:38] <orgthingy> i just hate windows as an OS :-)
[06:38] <\\`oot> ari_stress: Any thoughts on my dilemma?  Or a BETTER way to manage "themes and such"?
[06:38] <e-jat> ari_stress, :)
[06:38] <rdw200169> orgthingy: go use os/2 then, and gripe about that, or osx
[06:38] <srip> orgthingy,xp released in 2002 will be supported till 2014 that is 100$ for 12 yrs support
[06:39] <ari_stress> orgthingy: it;s not only money, i'm having hard time securing windows machines, different with linuxes
[06:39] <orgthingy> srip: until 2014 ? XP support will end this year :)
[06:39] <Ward1983> why the hell are we talking about windoze?
[06:39] <almark> what is the name of the non free ati drivers to install in Ubuntu?
[06:39] <ari_stress> \\`oot: oh sorry, i dont read the channel previously
[06:39] <\\`oot> srip: Not necessarily true... 12 years support for the technology (not the system) :-)
[06:39] <xyxxl> XP will be in extended support until 2014
[06:39] <rdw200169> Ward1983: i'm trying to stop him, but he's heck-bent on doing it
[06:39] <Omoikane__> srip stop trolling please
[06:39] <ari_stress> hi e-jat
[06:39] <\\`oot> ari_stress: I'm trying to make my new Ubuntu 8.10 look "nicer"... themes
[06:39] <orgthingy> ari_stress : Id rather do dpkg -i *.deb than clicking "next" then "finish" manually for each program
[06:39] <spanther> xyxxl: i bet it will be longer :D they allready extended it actually i bet they will again lol
[06:39] <orgthingy> \\`oot : gnome-look.org ?
[06:39] <\\`oot> ari_stress: and... I tried Gnome-Art-NG... but it doesn't appear to be working well, all the thumbnails are screwed up
[06:39] <Ward1983> go to #windows if you want to talk about how good windows is please
[06:40] <Ward1983> jesus
[06:40] <rdw200169> \\`oot: you can also try compiz + emerald
[06:40] <\\`oot> orgthingy: Yes... but - WHAT do I download?
[06:40] <\\`oot> what is emerald?
[06:40] <orgthingy> the theme?
[06:40] <rdw200169> \\`oot: and cairo-dock or avant window navigator
[06:40] <Ward1983> even there they will get pissed at you lol
[06:40] <\\`oot> I tried to download it, and it's a theme "editor"?
[06:40] <orgthingy> then change it from system > pref >> appearance
[06:40] <ari_stress> \\`oot: hmm i don't modify the theme much
[06:40] <rdw200169> \\`oot: emerald is a replacement window decorator, it does the borders of windows
[06:40] <\\`oot> but you can only change super-basic stuff from that system > pre >appearence
[06:40] <orgthingy> Ward1983 : freenode is a foss network, they just /kill us when we troll @ windows not kline us :)
[06:41] <\\`oot> on my laptop which is 8.4 gnome-art-ng works brilliant...
[06:41] <whyameye> almark, ok I'm really leaving now. :-) But there might be something here for you: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[06:41] <Ward1983> orgthingy i meant most people in #windows dont even really like windows
[06:41] <rdw200169> \\`oot: thus, if you want your windows borders, for example, to look exactly like vista or mac, emerald can do it
[06:41] <\\`oot> on 8.10 (this machine) it doesn't appear to work right
[06:41] <orgthingy> \\`oot : exactly  ! thats why you need to CHANGE those basic stuff :P ?
[06:41] <orgthingy> using "install"
[06:41] <\\`oot> emerald, OK
[06:41] <ari_stress> \\`oot: do you have the url for gnome-art-ng? i'd like to see
[06:41] <\\`oot> hold, let me install that
[06:41] <spanther> Ward1983: i do but only XP :D lol
[06:41] <orgthingy> g2g, gotta restart irssi
[06:41] <\\`oot> uhh... sec
[06:41] <jbmigel> Ward1983 id suggest backing up your usb drive before installing an os on it... you could partition it and risk your data but why
[06:41] <almark> whyameye: thanks for the help. i"ll try that who knows it just might work
[06:41] <Ward1983> spanther i use it because else i cannot play much decent games anymore
[06:42] <\\`oot> http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Gnome-Art-NG-Download-37496.html
[06:42] <rdw200169> jbmigel: be careful about using your thumbdrive for too much stuff, they have a limited number of read/writes
[06:42] <spanther> yep thats right and normal nothing to be ashamed for :)
[06:42] <Ward1983> spanther plus companies still tend to use it too :(
[06:42] <apa_aja_dech> hi
[06:42] <almark> rdw200169: where did you read that :P
[06:42] <Ward1983> so windows is allmost a must if you want to work in IT
[06:42] <\\`oot> ari_stress: If you get it installed, it looks cool, has tabs for window decorations, program skins, etc... but everything looks like the default "red apple" icon
[06:42] <spanther> Ward1983: yeah because everyone has to have his own decision :)
[06:42] <\\`oot> so I never know WTF I'm installing, haha
[06:42] <\\`oot> annoying as crap
[06:42] <rdw200169> almark: it's a known fact, check wikipedia, or any specific stats on thumbdrives on newegg
[06:43] <orgthingy> back
[06:43] <jbmigel> rdw200169 you could say the same thing about hard drives, are you gonna stop using them too? lol just buy a new one
[06:43] <rdw200169> almark: thumbdrives are capable of a finite number of read/writes until they just stop working
[06:43] <almark> rdw200169: oh man I didn't want to know that *bummer* I thought these things will last forever
[06:43] <\\`oot> ari_stress: While you do that, I'm going to install emerald... from package manager right?
[06:43] <spanther> Ward1983: besides windows really isnt this bad... well xp isnt vista is :> got alot of issues recently again...
[06:43] <Marfi2> looking to install the nvidia drivers for the nvidia go 6100. what is the name of the package? can only get terminal atm
[06:43] <rdw200169> jbmigel: at least hard drives have S.M.A.R.T.
[06:43] <Ward1983> i have an external harddisk that i want to make a ubuntu installation on, like many do with a USB stick, only it allready has data, can i somehow solve that? because i dont have enough space to copy the data over to another comp
[06:43] <\\`oot> this nVidia driver set with Compiz ROCKS
[06:43] <\\`oot> moving windows and stuff is cool
[06:44] <almark> rdw200169: which could be for a very long time then, depends on the manufacturer right?
[06:44] <apa_aja_dech> hi
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> almark: It's true, but the number is usually in the hundreds of thousands (and from what I've seen pretty much only applies to writes - reads isn't as big of a deal), so I haven't really worried about it myself.
[06:44] <rdw200169> almark: yes, good hard drives that are taken care of can last an incredibly long time
[06:44] <spanther> does anyone know a GUI supported tool to administrate dvd drives spinning speed so that i can watch movies while the drive only spins for 2x dvd speed max to be quiet?
[06:44] <\\`oot> OK, so I have emerald theme manager installed
[06:44] <\\`oot> now what?
[06:44] <ari_stress> \\`oot: does it have any screenshot? looks like it's still for 8.04
[06:45] <rdw200169> tonyyarusso: true, very true, but, i'm personally fighting against the notion of 'operating systems on thumb drives' on principle
[06:45] <Ward1983> lol ok on to #linux then
[06:45] <almark> rdw200169: I have noticed, and its very annoying that linux has a tough time after you umount the USB drive, the power will not go off, how do I get around that?
[06:45] <\\`oot> ari_stress: Yes, that's kind of the problem :(
[06:45] <rdw200169> tonyyarusso: i want to nip a problem in the butt before it gets out of hand, and too many people are dealing with dead thumb drives, make sense?
[06:45] <spanther> cause its annoying if a dvd drive spins with fullspeed loud as hell just to flash for a few seconds per minute to load data <.< no remote tool to reduce spinning?
[06:45] <halycon> I am having an issue with Bluetooth where everytime I restart my computer I have to run the following command to get bluetooth devices to detect: sudo hciconfig hci0 reset - reset bluetooth adaptor
[06:45] <rdw200169> almark: i don't know, i don't have that problem
[06:46] <almark> rdw200169: what do you do to umound your drive, does the power on the thumb drive go off for you?
[06:46] <almark> amount geez
[06:46] <eweb100> I NEED HELP!! I can't Edit my Grub Menu
[06:46] <rdw200169> almark: the power never goes off, as long as it's plugged in,
[06:46] <eweb100> !Copy
[06:46] <rdw200169> almark: regardless, once it's unmounted, it's safe to remove
[06:46] <\\`oot> OK,here's a quick question... how do I UNINSTALL a package?
[06:47] <eweb100> !paste
[06:47] <rdw200169> \\`oot: apt-get remove
[06:47] <ari_stress> \\`oot: use synaptic, it's GUI
[06:47] <\\`oot> OK
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> rdw200169: Perhaps, but I doubt the thumb drive will die before a) the user loses it, b) the user decides they'd rather just get the new 16TB drive that came out or whatever, c) the OS on it is so obsolete they can't use it and can't be bothered to install yet again, that sort of thing.  Seems overhyped, in short.
[06:47] <eweb100> I can't edit my GRUB menu please help..
[06:47] <gbear14275> anyone here running 64bit intrepid?
[06:47] <\\`oot> right but...
[06:47] <\\`oot> that package isnt IN synaptic!
[06:47] <\\`oot> ????
[06:47] <gbear14275> eweb100: what are you trying to do?
[06:48] <eweb100> http://paste.ubuntu.com/85450/
[06:48] <Ganon> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
[06:48] <Eviltaco64> hai
[06:48] <eweb100> gBear14275: i am tring to edit my grub menu
[06:48] <rdw200169> tonyyarusso: you should do a test then: run ubuntu on a thumbdrive for six months.  don't turn off logging etc... just a vanila 8.10 desktop.  if the thumbdrive survives, you win.
[06:48] <Marfi2> alright...ive install ubuntu using the alt CD's with text mode...and was having problems with the video driver, nvidia go 6100. gray screen on an averatec 7100. now when it boots, its only a gray screen. any ideas?
[06:48] <almark> rdw200169: I have read that too, but I'm paranoid, I messed up my other computers usb ports I think, I wanted two mice one was light mouse (regular ones) and other was trackball at the same time, so that I could choose what mouse I wanted while using blender, I think it messed up something, because its not the same since.
[06:49] <rdw200169> almark: i don't know then :(
[06:49] <Eviltaco64> can i run th system restore from windowz vista in my ubuntu dell???
[06:49] <jbmigel> eweb100 why dont you try it from console without all the gtk crap?
[06:49] <rdw200169> Eviltaco64: to restore ubuntu?
[06:49] <eweb100> jbingel all i am doing is gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:49] <gbear14275> anyone here run conky on 64bit?
[06:49] <almark> rdw200169: Don't ever move two mice at the same time, I think it breaks something.
[06:50] <Marfi2> alright...ive install ubuntu using the alt CD's with text mode...and was having problems with the video driver, nvidia go 6100. gray screen on an averatec 7100. now when it boots, its only a gray screen. any ideas?
[06:50] <eweb100> jbmigel what is the correct way?
[06:50] <Eviltaco64> nah, im just kidding :P
[06:50] <eric> eweb100 hi
[06:50] <rdw200169> almark: i've done that before, i had a bluetooth mouse and a touchpad at the same time, no problem
[06:50] <Eviltaco64> i wanted to see how someone would respond to such a noobish question
[06:50] <Marfi2> any help...?
[06:50] <spanther> Eviltaco64: kidding is good for your health :)
[06:50] <\\`oot> found it
[06:50] <jbmigel> eweb100 well what you're doing should work, but if it isnt... try something else :)
[06:50] <\\`oot> removed gnome-art-ng
[06:50] <\\`oot> :(
[06:51] <eweb100> jbmingel kk.
[06:51] <almark> rdw200169: Computer are funny, they might break here or there, you don't know what will happen, just wait and see I guess, but they are built to last i'll say.
[06:51] <\\`oot> Hey, on gnome-look.org... if I'm trying out "Emerald"... which artwork menu do I select on the left?
[06:51] <rdw200169> almark: yeah, my desktop is a crazy amalgamation of parts, some dating back more than 3 years
[06:51] <\\`oot> GTK 2.x?  Metacity? Compiz?  Beryl?
[06:51] <Ward1983> lol imagine that 3 years old :o (sarcasm alert)
[06:51] <rdw200169> almark: i just randomly change out parts when they need replacing, and it keeps trucking along
[06:52] <almark> rdw200169: amiga?
[06:52] <almark> rdw200169: really
[06:52] <\\`oot> ari_stress: You there?
[06:52] <rdw200169> almark: my most recent upgrade was a big one, and that was mobo + proc + video card
[06:53] <rdw200169> almark: oh, and case, the old gray tower was getting to ragged
[06:53] <almark> rdw200169: this computer is 4 years old, not bad considering I used a 2001 or was it 1999 one before this
[06:53] <gbear14275> is wmctrl stable on 64 bit 8.10?
[06:53] <rdw200169> almark: don't get me wrong, i don't like to spend money, i just newegg until i get a good deal on what i want, then replace
[06:53] <almark> rdw200169: used computer are best :)
[06:53] <ExcruciationX> Hey, I have a question about running the IRC bot, flooterbuck...
[06:53] <almark> rdw200169: I havent had a totally new computer since 1995 lol
[06:53] <eweb100> How do i edit the Grub menu?
[06:54] <rdw200169> almark: why get a whole computer, when you can just 'randomly replace parts'?
[06:54] <gbear14275> almark: just replaced my 2002 t30 about 2 months ago... its still kicking great now that it has a new hd
[06:54] <almark> rol that one eveyone
[06:54] <gbear14275> eweb I would just go to the file in the boot folder from nautilus
[06:54] <almark> gbear14275 don't know what a t30 is
[06:54] <gbear14275> almark: old computer ;)
[06:54] <gbear14275> almark: IBM t30 laptop
[06:55] <ExcruciationX> So, no one feels like helping me out?
[06:55] <eweb100> gbear14275 go to that folder...then..
[06:55] <almark> rdw200169: this isn't topic is it, I don't wnat to get in trouble with all this non topic is it safe to talk here?
[06:55] <israel> exit
[06:55] <rdw200169> almark: i have a server that cost me $200 in parts, it's got 6 gig-ethernet ports and a amd 3000+
[06:55] <gbear14275> eweb100: /boot/grub/ menu.lst
[06:55] <eweb100> gbear14275 i want to edit its parimters.
[06:55] <almark> gbear14275 for your info I have my 1995 Packard Bell under my CRT monitor right now lol
[06:56] <jrhigh> im running an asus eeepc
[06:56] <gbear14275> almark: nice! :)
[06:56] <jrhigh> sad to say they're already wAY outdated
[06:56] <jrhigh> for 350 you can get a 1gighz
[06:56] <gbear14275> eweb100: what are you trying to do with grub the grub menu?
[06:56] <gbear14275> eweb100: sorry... bad typing
[06:56] <almark> gbear14275 and it still works, I don't use it though, remember those flat tops models, its not a tower, its history lol
[06:56] <eweb100> gbear14275 i want to edit it so i can make vista boot correctly
[06:56] <rdw200169> jrhigh: what do you think of it? do you have the smallest one? or the 9" and larger?
[06:57] <almark> gbear14275: and it still works, I don't use it though, remember those flat tops models, its not a tower, its history lol
[06:57] <gbear14275> almark: yeah I remember them :) they really are just towers on their side lol
[06:57] <rdw200169> almark: yeah, i bet it doesn't even have PCI and PATA
[06:58] <rdw200169> almark: wait, that was the earlier i think
[06:58] <almark> gbear14275: I mean I was using this drive, 40 gig in that packard lol 1995 computer 133 mghz and it worked had to patch drive, the 40 gig to new for it.
[06:58] <ExcruciationX> So, no one can help me with getting flooterbuck to run?
[06:58] <almark> rdw200169: lol ISA only I think lol
[06:58] <gbear14275> eweb100: try opening terminal and just typing grub... whats that do?
[06:59] <rdw200169> almark: good luck trying to upgrade it.  even though i would use the case personally
[06:59] <rdw200169> almark: turn it into a htpc or somethign
[06:59] <almark> rdw200169: The monitor is sitting on it, I have had a monitor sitting on it for 3 years lol
[06:59] <almark> rdw200169: I was thinking of putting Linux on it lol
[07:00] <almark> rdw200169: what is a htpc?
[07:00] <rdw200169> almark: yeah? well i upgraded my monitor, then decided to use the old one too, so now i'm running dual monitor
[07:00] <gbear14275> almark: I think that would be a great upgrade ;)
[07:00] <rdw200169> almark: home theater pc
[07:00] <onetinsoldier> ExcruciationX: no one here probably does much of getting irc bots running. perhaps another channel. like #freenode?
[07:00] <jrhigh> rdw2001: i have the 701
[07:00] <rdw200169> almark: like a dvr box or something
[07:00] <jrhigh> i would like to upgrade the ram to 2gig but its expensive
[07:00] <jrhigh> im running opengeu but would rather run fedora
[07:00] <ExcruciationX> Thanks for the advice. :)
[07:00] <Brack10> so I downloaded ggl-gtk for google desktop gadgets.  They work great, but it ruined my installation.  X11 doesn't start up anymore, audio doesn't work, programs are freezing all the time....now I can't figure out how to remove it because I installed the deb package standalone instead of using package manager....how can I fix this?
[07:00] <jrhigh> plays openarena VERY nicely
[07:00] <gbear14275> rdw200169: another option would be a nice firewall/router/bitorrent fileserver
[07:00] <rdw200169> almark: i really want to set up a htpc to act as a ultra music box
[07:01] <jrhigh> better than my 128 geforce
[07:01] <almark> rdw200169: make my packard a home theater system lol hwo in world would I do that, this is really funny lol
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> ExcruciationX: sure, yw
[07:01] <rdw200169> gbear14275: i already have that
[07:01] <gbear14275> rdw200169: meant for almark
[07:01] <rdw200169> gbear14275: ah, i see
[07:01] <rdw200169> almark: yeah, turn it into an ISP
[07:02] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: you mean you used the  dpkg -i <package>  command to install it?
[07:02] <rdw200169> almark: sell your neighbors wireless internet from a bunch of cantenna's mounted on your roof
[07:02] <almark> rdw200169: I saw someone on the youtube make a first nes into a computer with XP on it and all the games emulated with it lol worked too
[07:02] <almark> rdw200169:
[07:02] <almark> rdw200169: laughing hard here lol
[07:02] <rdw200169> almark: i have an NES controller that was converted to USB
[07:02] <gbear14275> almark: I'm actually trying to draw up some plans to turn original NES controllers into mobile usb emulators with some flash storage
[07:03] <almark> rdw200169: Welcome to my ISP from scratch 2 bucks a month
[07:03] <Brack10> onetinsolider: no, I just double clicked it and pushed the install button
[07:03] <rdw200169> almark: well, it would pay dividends for me, i live in manhattan, so i have *lots* of neighbors to sell to ;)
[07:03] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: what do you get if you do...   dpkg -l ggl-gtk
[07:03] <almark> gbear14275: man these days are becoming *V I N T A G E FLASH BACKS *
[07:04] <rdw200169> almark: if only i could get fast enough internet *sigh*
[07:04] <Brack10> No packages found matching ggl-gtk.
[07:04] <sjdurfey>  can anyone tell me what one-to-one memory mapping with regards to logical to physical memory addresses means?
[07:04] <almark> rdw200169: I just think the concept is really funny, make a bunch of antennas with card board and foil, man what a roll over lol
[07:04] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i don't know then, sorry
[07:05] <Brack10> this is frustrating
[07:05] <Brack10> a little widget program fucked my whole installation
[07:05] <rdw200169> almark: don't laugh! a lot of scientific research has been done on improving wireless propogation, and it's been surprising
[07:05] <almark> gbear14275: I think were tying up this room
[07:06] <rdw200169> almark: some very cheap modifications to wireless routers have more than septupled the distance the router can transmit and receive
[07:06] <almark> rdw200169: Yeah I know, its all over youtube and net, I even want to try it with my wireless router
[07:06] <jbmigel> relax almark some people like to hear about computers
[07:06] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: try  dpkg -l '*ggl*' | grep '^ii'   anything?
[07:06] <gbear14275> rdw200169: problem is thats not legal ;)
[07:06] <almark> "wonders why the ppl that made the thing didnt try that first hmm"
[07:06] <rdw200169> gbear14275: not true, the db's may have been raised, but not the wattage
[07:06] <Brack10> No packages found matching *ggl*.
[07:07] <nck> i can see the windows workgroup and mshome in network. but there is no connected pc shown. how?
[07:07] <rdw200169> gbear14275: the fcc does not (can not) punish for efficiency
[07:07] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: you need to include the singel quotes and everything
[07:07] <onetinsoldier> single*
[07:07] <rdw200169> gbear14275: true, they can punish if you increase the wattage, just not the dB's and propogation
[07:07]  * \\`oot hates "themes"... SOOO complicated
[07:07] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: however, when I double click the package, package installer gives me the option to reinstall
[07:07] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: I did
[07:07] <gbear14275> rdw200169: oh... ok I do know though that many "power" modifcations enabled by open source tools can allow people to increase their routers to transmit at illegal levels... figured that might have been what you were reffering to
[07:08] <almark> lets take this to a private room
[07:08] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok, roger that...
[07:08] <gbear14275> almark: believe it or not I was actually hoping to get a question or two answered ;)
[07:08] <rdw200169> gbear14275: no, i'm simply referring to a bunch of tin foil and such in unique antenna designs; i read that somewhere in south america, a university managed to push a wireless connection 10 miles
[07:08] <rdw200169> gbear14275: with antennas alone on a '
[07:08] <rdw200169> gbear14275: vanilla' wireless off the shelf router
[07:09] <Brad_> I can't get ubuntu do do dist-upgrade
[07:09] <\\`oot> Quick question on OO.org
[07:09] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: what is the name of the file you double click on?
[07:09] <\\`oot> is anyone here running 8.10 and OO 3?
[07:09] <Veovis_Muaddib> rdw200169:  Could I please have a link to that?  That sounds sweet
[07:09] <almark> gbear14275: oops I distracted you sorry, well rdw200169 came up with the idea to use homemade antenna on roofs lol, and have you seen home hacker on the youtube lol i dont know is it real?
[07:10] <Brack10> google-gadgets_0.10.3-0~getdeb1_i386.deb
[07:10] <rdw200169> Veovis_Muaddib: just google 'cantenna'; you can buy one, or, the google search will also come up with how to make one with a pringles can, very popular
[07:10] <gbear14275> rdw200169:http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/has.html
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok..  dpkg -l google-gadgets
[07:11] <almark> rdw200169: I got things to do good talking to you and gbear
[07:11] <Brack10> ok now if I do dpkg -l '*goog*' | grep '^ii', I get ii  google-gadgets                            0.10.3-0~getdeb1
[07:11] <zamba> i want to install 20+ machines with ubuntu.. what's my fastest option for doing this?
[07:11] <gbear14275> later almark
[07:11] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: dpkg --purge google-gadgets
[07:11] <almark> *bows*
[07:11] <Vantrax> zamba creating an image via ghost or dd
[07:11] <rdw200169> gbear14275: yeah, i think i read that already ;)
[07:11] <Supavisah> How do I make a shortcut on my desktop to run an application in wine?
[07:11] <jbmigel> zamba are they all identical hardware?
[07:11] <zamba> jbmigel: pretty much
[07:12] <gbear14275> ok... so anyone been able to get conky embedded on their desktop with 8.10 64 bit... I'm having problems and was hoping to figure out if its me... or these instructions I'm following
[07:12] <Veovis_Muaddib> rdw2001: Thanks, that'll make for an interesting read
[07:12] <rdw200169> Supavisah: just right click and select 'add launcher...'
[07:12] <Supavisah> then what
[07:12] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: ok done
[07:12] <Brack10> reboot now?
[07:12] <rdw200169> Supavisah: then put the same command in there that you would on the command line, i.e. "wine program"
[07:12] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok... you might need to restart X
[07:12] <jbmigel> zamba well you can install on one and as Vantrax said DD the install to the other drives
[07:12] <Brack10> well X stopped starting up when I boot
[07:12] <gbear14275> rdw200169: you ever played with conky?
[07:13] <Brack10> so I want to make sure that still works
[07:13] <Supavisah> rdw200169, I don't use command line to run it..
[07:13] <Brack10> so brb
[07:13] <Supavisah> Also - where is the wine 'c' directory?
[07:13] <rdw200169> Supavisah: except, put in the whole path, i.e. something like "wine /home/user/.wine/C_Drive/Program\ FIles/etc..."
[07:13] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: roger that
[07:13] <rdw200169> Supavisah: ah, i almost beat you to the question ;)
[07:13] <Supavisah> :P
[07:13] <Supavisah> Thanks
[07:14] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: looks like I forgot to close the program before purging
[07:14] <rdw200169> Supavisah: make sure, in Nautilus to go to tools or something and check 'show hidden directories'
[07:14] <Brack10> should I close and purge again?
[07:14] <Supavisah> I will :)
[07:14] <dr__house> Hi all, I have installed Intrepid on my desktop, but I am not able to mount the floppy drive on it. Please help.
[07:14] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: oh...
[07:14] <Brad_> someone help with my update for ubuntu?
[07:14] <Brack10> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove google-gadgets which isn't installed
[07:14] <gbear14275> Veovis_Muaddib: here's the 10 mile link: http://people.wallawalla.edu/~Rob.Frohne/Airport/Primestar/Primestar.html
[07:15] <Brack10> ggl-gtk doesn't work either
[07:15] <rdw200169> Supavisah: then, the .wine directory should show up
[07:15] <Supavisah> Thank you very much <3
[07:15] <rdw200169> gbear14275: yeah, i think i read that too
[07:16] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: sorry, i'm confused... how did you install ggl-gtk??? what is the name of the ggl-gtk file?!?
[07:16] <rdw200169> gbear14275: i was doing a bunch of research on antennas a while back for an ISP project
[07:16] <Brack10> http://www.getdeb.net/release/3449
[07:16] <Brack10> the file is google-gadgets_0.10.3-0~getdeb1_i386.deb
[07:16] <Brack10> I installed it with the idiot wizard
[07:17] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok, so... ggl-gtk and google-gadgets are one and the same?
[07:17] <gbear14275> rdw200169: you ever played with conky?
[07:17] <Brack10> right
[07:17] <Brack10> google-gadgets is the name of the package
[07:17] <Brack10> ggl-gtk is the name of the program
[07:17] <rdw200169> gbear14275: oh yeah, i forgot, yeah, i've played with it a little
[07:18] <rdw200169> gbear14275: it's very popular
[07:18] <gbear14275> rdw200169: trying to get it embedded on my desktop and having problems... were you ever able to?
[07:18] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok, so, now that you uninstalled it, what's up? anything?
[07:18] <Brack10> well I haven't tried rebooting
[07:18] <rdw200169> gbear14275: yeah, i'll paste my config, gimme a second
[07:18] <gbear14275> rdw200169: thanks
[07:18] <Brack10> doeos the fact that I had it open while I uninstalled mean I messed it up?
[07:19] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i'm not 100% sure.. but i really don't think so. dpkg would complain if there were a problem, i'm pretty sure
[07:19] <rdw200169> gbear14275: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85456/
[07:20] <rdw200169> gbear14275: try that, and see if it works
[07:20] <Brack10> ok
[07:20] <Brack10> brb
[07:21] <gbear14275> I think i may have found my problem... no config file was installed... thats odd.... doesn't the package manager install that by default?
[07:22] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: what package?
[07:22] <gbear14275> apt-get install conky
[07:22] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: roger... having a look
[07:22] <ikonia> gbear14275: you need to build your own .conkyrc
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: theres a stock one someplace on the system, but no a simple one is NOT installed by the package
[07:23] <Brad__> can someone PLEASE help me with this upgrade problem
[07:23] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: ikonia, onetinsoldier, thanks... I'll figure out how to do this here
[07:23] <halycon> !pastebin
[07:23] <ikonia> Brad__: saying it in caps won't make it happen any quicker
[07:23] <zaapiel> sizup
[07:23] <ikonia> gbear14275: there are plenty of examples on the net, and in the man page
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: there are loads of sample ones online, just paste them to that file and refire conky
[07:24] <Brad__> I used one word in caps and it was please
[07:24] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: i did the following command.. apt-file show conky  --> conky: /etc/conky/conky.conf
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Brad__: please elaborate
[07:24] <bastid_raZor> gbear14275; http://conky.sourceforge.net/docs.html
[07:25] <rdw200169> gbear14275: just copy that paste i did, into /home/user/.conkyrc
[07:25] <halycon> I upgraded to the latest version of Frostwire using the Deb package on their website and now it wont load and it gives the following errors in the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/85459/
[07:25] <Brad__> I just did a install of 7.04 (I have no working cd buners in my house), I went to do a dist upgrade to 7.10 through update manager, it goes through the fetching files and then says
[07:25] <Brad__> (running it again)
[07:25] <gbear14275> this is part of the install instructions but its failing for some reason... I take it I just make a file for the config?  Sorry if this is overly obvious...
[07:25] <gbear14275> zcat /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz > ~/.conkyrc
[07:26] <Vantrax> Brad__, do a pastebin of the log
[07:26] <ikonia> halycon: the classpath has not been set or starters
[07:26] <ikonia> Brad__: 7.04 is not supported
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> halycon: Unable to access jarfile FrostWire.jar
[07:26] <rdw200169> halycon: run the installation as root
[07:26] <Brack10> ok so I uninstalled ggl-gtk and X11 still doesn't start, sound still doesn't work, and programs are still freezing up all the time
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> Brad__: do you have a usb memory stick? how old is this computer?
[07:26] <Brad__> its a 3 gig p4, 1gb of ram and a 320gb hard drive
[07:26] <rdw200169> halycon: wait nevermind
[07:26] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: any ideas?
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> Brad__: yeah.. i don't know how to help.. sorry
[07:26] <halycon> ikonia, how do I set the class path?
[07:26] <Brad__> pastebin.ca/1285749
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Brad__: are you upgrading hardy to intrepid?
[07:26] <ikonia> halycon: getting 4rd party debs means you need to contact the 4rd party providers for support
[07:27] <Brad__> I'm trying to do Feisty to hardy
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: maybe... hang on and lets see
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Brad__
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i certainly can't make any guarantees
[07:27] <Brack10> that's fine
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> ok
[07:27] <redwyrm> I'm trying to play a DVD with Totem in xubuntu 8.10, but it's all corrupted
[07:27] <Brack10> I just want to un-F this
[07:27] <redwyrm> it works fine in vista (I dual-boot)
 a1 ur going to die in hell u fucking jesus lover
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: cat /etc/X11/x-display-manager
[07:28] <Vantrax> Brad__ use the ubuntu repositories or use mirror.griffith.edu.au and follow the instructions
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: hang on.. i'll brb
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !dvd | redwyrm
[07:28] <Vantrax> Brad__ iinet is probably not mirroring such an old version anymore
[07:29] <Brack10> cat: /etc/X11/x-display-manager: No such file or directory
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=245135&page=2
[07:29] <ikonia> Brad__: that error pretty much says it all
[07:29] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: oh? hang on
[07:29] <Brad__> I tried it with the US mirrors, same problem
[07:29]  * tyler_d laughs 
[07:30] <ikonia> tyler_d: why ?
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[07:30] <Brack10> /usr/sbin/gdm
[07:30] <Vantrax> Brad__ use the ubuntu mirror and make sure your internet is connected
[07:30] <Brack10> is that that returns
[07:30] <Brad__> I can VNC and go on the internet with it
[07:30] <Brack10> bash: cd: /usr/sbin/gdm: No such file or directory
[07:31] <ikonia> Brad__: you don't cd to a file
[07:31] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok...  update-alternatives --config x-display-manager   ...just to make sure it's chosen
[07:31] <tyler_d> ikonia: sorry, in an attempt to not be rude, I will not say.
[07:31] <Brack10> No alternatives for x-display-manager.
[07:31] <ikonia> !away > Daisuke_Away
[07:31] <GGIbex> whew
[07:31] <GGIbex> hello all
[07:32] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: is this going to fix the sound problem and the freezing programs?
[07:32] <redwyrm> ActionParsnip, how could I use free formats to watch a DVD?!?
[07:32] <Daisuke_Away> ikonia: not actually away, my apologies, i'm fully aware of that, forgot i was in here.
[07:32] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: hrrmm, maybe that isn't right..hang on. i'm more used to plain debian
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> redwyrm: you need a package or 2
[07:32] <GGIbex> there a line here?
[07:32] <ikonia> GGIbex: a line ?
[07:32] <GGIbex> like get in line to ask your ?
[07:32] <ikonia> GGIbex: just ask
[07:32] <GGIbex> kind of joking
[07:33] <Brack10> ok
[07:33] <GGIbex> I used a prog to make IBEX bootable from usb and I think I installed full
[07:33] <GGIbex> how do I check that
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> GGIbex: boot it and try
[07:33] <GGIbex> verify full install that is
[07:34] <GGIbex> well   it works but some uh pieces are missing
[07:34] <Brack10> here's the error I get when pidgin freezes
[07:34] <Brack10> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session)
[07:34] <ikonia> GGIbex: which bits are missing ?
[07:34] <FloodBot3> Brack10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i was just going to try and get X startingfor you on bootup for starters
[07:34] <Brack10> ok
[07:34] <GGIbex> synaptic is missing ndis
[07:35] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble setting up an HP printer. It's not working right off the bat after being connected. It is an HP Deskjet F2210
[07:35] <ikonia> GGIbex: what do you mean missing ndis ?
[07:35] <GGIbex> i search for it and it's not there
[07:35] <ikonia> GGIbex: synaptic is a package manager, it doesn't "have" anything, do you mean you can't see it as an available package
[07:35] <GGIbex> well   yah
[07:35] <ikonia> GGIbex: please show me the output of "lsb_release -a"
[07:36] <GGIbex> i'm trying to get a dell laptop with a bcm4311 wifi card to work and
[07:36] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: go to  /etc/rc3.d
[07:36] <GGIbex> ok
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | GGIbex
[07:36] <Brack10> ok
[07:36] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: do you have a symlink file in there named... S30gdm  ?
[07:36] <GGIbex> no lsb modules available
[07:36] <Brack10> yes
[07:37] <swapneel> yo guys, I got a problem here, my window borders are dissapearing right after I log in. The window manager seems to be working but the borders os the controls does not work or appear. The windows sometimes go fullscreen.
[07:37] <GGIbex> ikonia:  shows 8.10
[07:37] <YaroMan86> I am having trouble setting up an HP printer. It's not working right off the bat after being connected. It is an HP Deskjet F2210
[07:37] <rainabba_> Running Ubuntu 8.04 64bit: i just tried to do a restart from X and now I've got a screen that's just scrolling messages by from RF_ZEBRA about DoRxHighPower. It's been this way for at least 5 minutes now. How should I handle this situation? This is a new and i've not changes anythiing relating to my wireless adapter (not ever). I'm not sure if the system ever even shutdown.
[07:37] <Brad__> I got farther in but now I get
[07:37] <rainabba_> How should I proceed?
[07:37] <Marfi> working on this computer reminds me of my days with gentoo...
[07:37] <onetinsoldier> ok... well, i'm not sure why X isn't start up for you. you are able to start it up yourself tho once you've booted?
[07:38] <CheesyWeasel> so im on hardy now. when i go to system > prefs > removables drives and media, there is no longer an area for me to change settings for my ipod
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> rainabba_: ctrl+c do anything?
[07:38] <Brad__> www.pastebin.ca/1285756
[07:38] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: yeah it's there
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: gentoo is awesome
[07:38] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, i used it 3 years ago when emerge -U world would break it  =)
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: that doesn't answer my question tho... are you going into and using X at all right now, after you've booted up?
[07:39] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, i would spend 2 days trying to fix it. this ubuntu install really reminds me of those days
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: mustve had some bad config then
[07:39] <GGIbex> Ikonia:  did i lose you>?
[07:39] <ikonia> GGIbex: search for ndiswrapper-common
[07:39] <GGIbex> ohh
[07:39] <orgthingy> gentoo is good way of "How to compile linux for 15 times!"
[07:39] <GGIbex> ok
[07:39] <ikonia> GGIbex: for a moment yes
[07:39] <Brack10> onetinsoldier: I start it manually
[07:39] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, clean install, just video problems
[07:39] <CheesyWeasel> where is that option now?
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok..so XIS working
[07:39] <rainabba_> ActionParsnip: No response to Ctrl-C
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: what video card?
[07:39] <Brack10> right
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: ok..so X IS working
[07:40] <Brack10> I'm on it right now
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> ok
[07:40] <Brack10> it just hasn't started automatically since I installed ggl-gtk
[07:40] <CheesyWeasel> so im on hardy now. when i go to system > prefs > removables drives and media, there is no longer an area for me to change settings for my ipod
[07:40] <gbear14275> onetinsoldier: I found the error at least I was having... on the conky site it said the sample was conkyrc.sample.gz, but the actual sample file was concky.conf.gz... just, yeah... if anyone cared
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> rainabba_: if its good with you, hold down power button on pc case for 5 seconds and it will power off
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: hey.. roger that
[07:41] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, nvidia go 6100 on an averatec laptop. would boot up, but came to a gray screen. got the alternate CD and installed it via that, and now just trying to get everything working
[07:41] <rainabba_> ActionParsnip: I'm familiar with that approach :) I was hoping to understand what's going on first.
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: yeah thats a mega stock one, you may need to change the config so it reads the right things
[07:41] <CheesyWeasel> could i get some help?
[07:41] <Yossarianus> hey ppls
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | Marfi
[07:41] <GGIbex> ikonia:  nothing in the -common
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: i used envyng-qt on mine (i run kde)
[07:41] <YaroMan86> Oh, it turns out that the HPLIP driver for this model isn't provided in the repositories in Ubuntu for some reason.
[07:41] <ikonia> GGIbex: can you please pastbine your sources.list
[07:41] <GGIbex> ikonia:  ndiswrapper is missing i mean
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> !envyng | Marfi
[07:42] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: well, that weird. i may have to download the .deb that has messaed you and have a look at it without installing it. hang on
[07:42] <worldcitizen> I just downloaded synfig studio from the add/remove apps. When I start it the splash screen for the program pops up, then the program will start loading, then stop running. How can I go about figuring out what the problem is?
[07:42] <Brack10> okey dok
[07:42] <Brack10> I'm not totally sure it was ggl-gtk but I'm pretty sure that's all I installed
[07:42] <Brack10> I did install virtualbox today, too
[07:43] <jdahl> I just install a netgear DG834n wifi router configured with WPA-PSK + WPA2-PSK security.  For fastest connection, clients should connect in WPA2-PSK,  but my linux client connects at regular 54Mmbps;  how can I see what mode linux is using,  and can I force the gnome-networkmanager to connect using WPA2?
[07:43] <GGIbex> ikonia:  where do I find the sources.list
[07:43] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, problem is that the video is not showing up. i can get a terminal, but nothing is working. that one link doesn't really help me, since its in 8.10
[07:43] <GGIbex> ikonia:  sorry mate
[07:43] <ikonia> GGIbex: /etc/apt/
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> worldcitizen: run it in terminal, you will get intelligent output
[07:43] <gbear14275> onetinsoldier: any chance you might be able to help look at a script?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | jdahl
[07:45] <GGIbex> ikonia:  ok  I found the list, but dont know what you need to see
[07:45] <ikonia> !pastebin
[07:45] <ikonia> GGIbex: paste the whole file please
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10156
[07:45] <gbear14275> this script is producing a frozen window with menubars and borders... which it shouldn't be doing... any ideas?
[07:45] <gbear14275> xfce4-terminal --hide-menubar --hide-borders --hide-toolbars --title=descon && wmctrl -r descon -e 0,10,10,720,720 && wmctrl -r descon -b add,sticky,below && wmctrl -r descon -b add,skip_pager,skip_taskbar
[07:45] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: sorry, no. i am trying to help Brack10. and it's already past my bedtime
[07:45] <gbear14275> onetinsoldier: no prob
[07:46] <KillGuta> Hello all
[07:46] <GGIbex> ikonia:  i'm on a diff pc.
[07:46] <kr00l> can someone help me install ventrilo?
[07:46] <Brack10> past my bedtime too :)
[07:46] <KillGuta> how do I find my hardware's name and IDs?
[07:46] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i had a look at the contents and i don't see how it could have done anything to stop X from starting up when you boot up
[07:46] <Brack10> maybe if I go to sleep, it will decide to fix itself
[07:46] <Brack10> does that d-bus error hint at anything?
[07:46] <ikonia> GGIbex: move it across with a usb stick or someting like that
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> KillGuta: lspci / lsusb
[07:47] <GGIbex> ikonia:  ok  i'll try
[07:47] <Marfi> ActionParsnip, thats for 8.04. can't install nvidia-glx-new in 8.10, they changed it up
[07:47] <Brack10> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session)
[07:47] <Brack10> says that when I run sudo pidgin
[07:47] <Brack10> and it crashes
[07:47] <GGIbex> ikonia:  so i just need the sources.list?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: I think they are pointing at the official driver from www.nvidia.com
[07:47] <Marfi> sorry to be a pain, ActionParsnip , going on little sleep. =)
[07:47] <KillGuta> thanks you ActionParsnip :)
[07:47] <ikonia> GGIbex: yes please
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Marfi: id rest up
[07:48] <gbear14275> ok, update... its only happening when i embed it into a script... executed in terminal it works fine
[07:48] <Saga_> Hi people.  Anybody here expert with lvm + dm-setup?
[07:48] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: yes... that is i believe a problem
[07:48] <Brack10> ok
[07:48] <ikonia> Saga_: lvm devices are handled by dm
[07:49] <Brack10> I hope it means something to you
[07:49] <fluzie> how to block anynomous proxies?
[07:49] <KillGuta> should I install the NVIDIA drivers from the repositories or from NVIDIA.COM?
[07:49] <ikonia> KillGuta: repo
[07:49] <ikonia> fluzie: block them from what ?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> KillGuta: repo onces will update as you update
[07:49] <KillGuta> thanks :D
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: in your home dir... try removing, only if you want, the:   .dbus   ...dir
[07:49] <niku_> im trying to format my whole hdd, but when im trying to do that the install tells me that i dont have any root file
[07:50] <Saga_> Okay -- I'm trying to learn how to use cryptsetup -- First, I do have three encrypted HDDs made by from my buddy -- However, how do I display encryption information and etc?  I want to ensure that I'm using the same encrpytion protocol.
[07:50] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: might not want to be in X when you do it
[07:50] <KillGuta> wow incredible I just found linux drivers for my soundcard :D
[07:50] <fluzie> block from my LAN office
[07:50] <GGIbex> ikonia:http://paste.ubuntu.com/85467/
[07:50] <kr00l> can someone help me with a tutorial?
[07:50] <ikonia> fluzie: what are they connecting to
[07:50] <YaroMan86> Okay, apparently this driver doesn't work. Help, Ubuntu is not detecting my HP Deskjet F2210 All-in-One. PLEASE HELP!
[07:50] <DasEi> niku_: you have a whole hd and chossed it in installer, then no root ?
[07:50] <Brack10> removing .dbus eh
[07:50] <onetinsoldier> yeah... up to you
[07:51] <Brack10> haha
[07:51] <ikonia> GGIbex: do an sudo apt-get update then search again
[07:51] <Brack10> well could it mess things up even worse?
[07:51] <ikonia> GGIbex: close synaptic frist
[07:51] <ikonia> firrst
[07:51] <ikonia> first even
[07:51] <fluzie> they try to connect to restricted website by using anynomous proxies
[07:51] <R1cochet> i want to install "reconstructor" in 8.10 and it says it needs to remove libgd2-noxpm then install libgd2-xpm. is it ok to remove libgd2-noxpm?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_f2200_series.html
[07:51] <GGIbex> ikonia: do i need internet connectivity for that?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: its supported by hplip
[07:51] <ikonia> fluzie: setup iptables as a firewall on your gateway to stop them accessing any prox other than your own
[07:52] <YaroMan86> ActionParsnip: That is the driver I tries.
[07:52] <ikonia> GGIbex: no
[07:52] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i doubt it. it will get recreated... might even have to reboot though. i'm not sure. i don't much anything about dbus
[07:52] <DasEi> fluzie: that's not to easy, as they can also tunnel to any other proxie
[07:52] <ikonia> GGIbex: although I've just realised why you can't see it
[07:52] <GGIbex> ikonia:  you lost me for a sec.  lemme figure out what you want me to do
[07:52] <ikonia> GGIbex: you need to get the updated repo file from the internet
[07:52] <ikonia> GGIbex: as ndiswrapper isn't on the CD
[07:52] <fluzie> yes, i know..they still can tunnel
[07:52] <GGIbex> ikonia:  that's the problem
[07:52] <R1cochet> is it ok to remove libgd2-noxpm?
[07:52] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: but it shold darn well get recreated
[07:52] <ikonia> GGIbex: that makes sense now
[07:53] <ikonia> fluzie: no they can't if you block all external access except through your own proxy
[07:53] <GGIbex> ikonia:  can i move via usb?
[07:53] <ikonia> !aptoncd
[07:53] <ikonia> GGIbex: try that
[07:53] <Brack10> ok I'll give it a try
[07:53] <Brack10> what the hell
[07:53] <Brack10> brb
[07:53] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: i am thinking that dir is causing your woes tho...
[07:53] <DasEi> niku_: ?
[07:53] <GGIbex> ikonia:  what do I move once I get that running?
[07:53] <fluzie> i already setup my own proxy.but they still can access..im using squid
[07:54] <ikonia> GGIbex: the ndsi swapper stuff
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: you cna do everything excpet use the card rerader, is it a network printer?
[07:54] <ikonia> GGIbex: block the im gateways from the proxy
[07:54] <Brack10> how do I exit x11?
[07:54] <GGIbex> ikona:  i'm using a windows box
[07:54] <ikonia> GGIbex: so ?
[07:54] <GGIbex> ikonia:that make a diff?
[07:54] <onetinsoldier> Brack10: try  Ctrl+Backspace
[07:54] <ikonia> GGIbex: no
[07:54] <YaroMan86> ActionParsnip: A can't do anything with a printer that ist connected directly via USB to my machine that isn't being detected..
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: run:  sudo hp-setup
[07:54] <YaroMan86> is*
[07:55] <GGIbex> ikonia:  got it    ima try that now
[07:55] <YaroMan86> I did that. The graphical tool says there's no printers connected, and I KNOW it is.
[07:55] <jschall> there should be a way to have transmission increase the bandwidth limit at night.
[07:56] <GGIbex> ikonia:  you got another suggestion?  aptoncd won't run on windows
[07:56] <YaroMan86> ActionParsnip: The hp-setup dialog reports no devices found.
[07:56] <gbear14275> what does a -x option do with xfce-terminal... checked man page and noting
[07:56] <prodigel> hi. I'm having problems with my floppy. Since I've upgrade to intrepid I cannot use the floppy drive in linux. Bios sees it and tries to boot from it(just a test), but linux has no device for it
[07:56] <ikonia> GGIbex: you download the files manually on windows and move them across to your ubuntu box to build your apt on cd repo
[07:57] <ikonia> GGIbex: or connect the laptop via a wired connection
[07:57] <DasEi> ﻿ prodigel:check your fstab
[07:57] <GGIbex> ikonia: wired is down too
[07:57] <GGIbex> ikonia:  i'll dload and move via usb
[07:57] <R1cochet> ikonia: is it ok to remove libgd2-noxpm?
[07:57] <Aya18111> hi, how can i specific my chat to some1 , i saw when some1 talk to me , his chat turn red , how to do that ?//
[07:57] <ikonia> R1cochet: what do you mean move it ?
[07:58] <ikonia> R1cochet: as in move the file ?
[07:58] <ikonia> Aya18111: just say their name first
[07:58] <R1cochet> remove
[07:58] <Aya18111> ikonia: like this ?/
[07:58] <YaroMan86> ActionParsnip: Any other ideas?
[07:58] <ikonia> R1cochet: if you try to remove it does ti say it depends on anything ?
[07:58] <DasEi> ﻿ prodigel:could you paste it ?
[07:58] <ikonia> R1cochet: or anything depend on it
[07:59] <R1cochet> im would like to install reconstructor, but it says it wants to remove libgd2-noxpm and install libgd2-xpm
[07:59] <ikonia> R1cochet: I don't see that as a problem
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: seems to be fully supported. Check:
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | YaroMan86
[07:59] <Marfi> i've been looking / piddling with this computer for a few hours, and still can't figure it out. when it boots up, it goes to a gray screen. did the same with the live disk, and installed via the alternate CD. any ideas how to get it back and working?  =/
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> YaroMan86: it may tell you the trick you need to do
[08:00] <ikonia> Marfi: what video card do you have
[08:00] <R1cochet> it does want to remove other packs when you try to remove libgd2-noxpm
[08:00] <ikonia> R1cochet: you've either got to trust it or not
[08:00] <Marfi> ikonia, its an nvidia go 6100. installed nvidia-glx-177 through terminal, and still doesn't help
[08:00] <ikonia> Marfi: force the xorg driver to use vesa or "nv" to see if that makes a difference
[08:01] <GGIbex> ikonia:  ok...  now I know that I need the ndis file and aptoncd.  Do I just dload the proper ndis for my adapter and put that with the aptoncd on the usb?
[08:01] <Marfi> ikonia, would have, but can't edit xorg. they made it "edit free" this release
[08:01] <R1cochet> ikonia: thank you much will give it a shot
[08:01] <kr00l> how do i get access to " ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system.ini"
[08:01] <ikonia> GGIbex: seems sensible
[08:01] <YaroMan86> Here we go. Apparently it didn't like being connected to a hub.
[08:01] <ikonia> Marfi: edit free ?
[08:02] <Marfi> ikonia, so you didn't need to edit the xorg. if you do a new install, the xorg file is extremely short. ill double check
[08:02] <ikonia> Marfi: that doesn't mean it's not editable
[08:02] <ikonia> Marfi: that means it's dynamic unless you put an edit in
[08:02] <YaroMan86> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the help anyway. :)
[08:03] <GGIbex> ikonia:  ok mate  i'm lost.  what kind of format should I be looking for?  I know what adapter I have,  that's about it
[08:04] <ikonia> GGIbex: you need the ndis wrapper packages from the repos and then the windows driver to use with it
[08:04] <ikonia> !ndis > GGIbex
[08:04] <Marfi> ikonia, i am such an idiot....thank you. =)
[08:04] <gbear14275> ok i'm lost  i dont know why this script brings up a window with borders and menu bar etc.... but i can't seem to figure it out... http://paste.ubuntu.com/85465/
[08:04] <robb_m> !ndis > robb_m
[08:05] <redwyrm> I installed everything the documentation told me to install to get DVD playing to work and it still doesn't work
[08:05] <hasibullah> hi
[08:05] <redwyrm> what else can I try?
[08:05] <redwyrm> I'm running x86-64
[08:05] <Marfi> ikonia, what was happened is that most of the xorg files are skimmed down, not showing drivers
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> redwyrm: tried vlc?
[08:05] <redwyrm> yeah
[08:05] <redwyrm> and mplayer, and totem
[08:05] <Mpole> greetings
[08:05] <redwyrm> the video is corrupted
[08:05] <GGIbex> ikonia:  got the PM and I tried that before I came here
[08:06] <Mpole> i trust everyone is doing fine this super monday.
[08:06] <hasibullah> hi every body how can i fix the network problem with windows os
[08:06] <DasEi> ﻿redwyrm:try another dvd
[08:06] <gbear14275> ikonia: any chance you could peek at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/85465/
[08:06] <ikonia> GGIbex: that should explain the packages aneeded once you havce them
[08:06] <Mpole> question: how does one migrate from Microsoft Outlook (WinOS) to Mozilla Thunderbird (Ubuntu)?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Mpole: not bad, work is quiet which is scary for several thousand servers :(
[08:06] <Marfi> ikonia, if i modify the xorg.conf file, will it stay with an xserver update?
[08:06] <cplab2-58> hey i m not able to update using sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <Saga_> redwyrm, Try this -- I'm newbie tho -- http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
[08:06] <ikonia> Marfi: yup
[08:06] <Mpole> ActionParsnip: several thousand? lucky you. i dont even have ONE server! lol
[08:07] <cplab2-58> i have posted the reult of sudo apt-get update at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011694&highlight=updates+-working
[08:07] <Marfi> ikonia, ty. looks like i get to re-write this guy's xorg.conf. =)
[08:07] <cplab2-58> ikonia; this is DarkKnight.... can u check my problem
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Mpole: we're big. lotsa citrix, lotsa sql
[08:08] <ikonia> cplab2-58: what is the problem
[08:08] <ikonia> cplab2-58: never mind seen the url
[08:08] <Mpole> ikonia and  ActionParsnip i have a question: how does one migrate from Microsoft Outlook (WinOS) to Mozilla Thunderbird (Ubuntu)?
[08:08] <cplab2-58> ikonia; okk
[08:08] <ikonia> cplab2-58: your dns service is not working
[08:08] <Mpole> ActionParsnip: what COM do u work for? looks like you ARE big. lol
[08:08] <cplab2-58> ikonia; but i m able to access internet
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Mpole: export emails to PST and import them to thunderbird
[08:09] <prodigel> DasEi, /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec 0 0
[08:09] <redwyrm> DasEi, it works fine with another DVD (U-571)
[08:09] <ikonia> cplab2-58: that doesn't mean your dns service is working
[08:09] <cplab2-58> ikonia; ok...now how do i make it working
[08:09] <GGIbex> ikonia:  thanks for the help,  I think i'm gonna be reading for a bit
[08:09] <ikonia> cplab2-58: well you need to find out if it's working
[08:09] <DasEi> ﻿redwyrm:corrupt media can't be healed by ubuntu
[08:09] <ikonia> GGIbex: I'll be around when your ready
[08:10] <redwyrm> DasEi, it's not corrupt though
[08:10] <GGIbex> ikona:  thanks mate
[08:10] <redwyrm> it plays fine in Vista
[08:10] <ikonia> cplab2-58: use nslookup www.ubuntu.com - do you get a response
[08:10] <Saga_> redwyrm, Try this -- I'm newbie tho -- http://www.dailygyan.com/2008/11/10-things-you-should-do-immediately.html
[08:10] <DasEi> prodigel : looks correct to me, does /media/floppy0  exist ?
[08:10] <Mpole> ActionParsnip: how is that done, exactly? is there a HOWTO somewhere?
[08:10] <prodigel> DasEi, yes
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Mpole: ask in #windows for the archiving process
[08:11] <prodigel> DasEi, and if trying to mount it from shell it tells me: special device /dev/fd0 does not exist
[08:11] <cplab2-58> ikonia; thanxx....its working.....
[08:11] <DasEi> ﻿redwyrm:you said above, that you had a corrupt media and other dvd works , ??
[08:11] <ikonia> cplab2-58: great
[08:11] <Mpole> ActionParsnip: thanks. will do.
[08:11] <hasibullah> any body listening to me when i connect my computer with other windows computer  but my computer is not shown in windows computers
[08:11] <redwyrm> DasEi, no, the playback is corrupt in linux with VLC
[08:11] <ikonia> hasibullah: they need to use samba to broadcast for the windows compupters to see
[08:12] <DasEi> prodigel : sudo fdisk - l      (with a floppy inserted) ??
[08:12] <redwyrm> but it plays fine on Vista with windows media player
[08:12] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: any chance you could tell me if i'm making a dumb mistake in this script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/85465/
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> hasibullah: what are you connecting with?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: the space between ! and / on line 1
[08:12] <prodigel> only sda partitions are listed
[08:12] <DasEi> ﻿redwyrm:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:12] <gbear14275> redwyrm: what are you trying to play?
[08:13] <prodigel> DasEi, only sda partitions are listed
[08:13] <redwyrm> DasEi, well, I just installed xubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:13] <redwyrm> and there was no change in the VLC playback
[08:13] <redwyrm> gbear14275, a Futurama disc
[08:13] <DasEi> prodigel :does lshw list it ?
[08:13] <DasEi> does*
[08:14] <gbear14275> redwyrm: did you follow saga's link?
[08:14] <cplab2-58> ikonia; i want to make updations from the sever to which my system is connected....we have a sever to which 60 systems are connected
[08:14] <redwyrm> gbear14275, I looked at it
[08:15] <redwyrm> but I have already done the relevant steps, I think
[08:15] <DasEi> ﻿redwyrm:try the tips, though vlc should do the job (^saga)
[08:15] <gbear14275> did you do them?
[08:15] <redwyrm> I've done step 2
[08:18] <prodigel> DasEi, for what should I look in lshw output?
[08:18] <rainabba_> I need libc6 2.8 for Hardy. There a source I can add to apt for it? More abstractly, how would I go about determining this myself in the future?
[08:18] <DasEi> prodigel :something showing floppy
[08:19] <prodigel> DasEi, there is one line that tells int13floppy360 1200 720 2880
[08:19] <prodigel> DasEi, computer - core - firmwre
[08:19] <DasEi> prodigel : so either driver or permission-prob
[08:20] <DasEi> prodigel : dmesg | grep floppy                 < output ?
[08:20] <prodigel> DasEi, no output
[08:20] <BoogieBoo> Hi,
[08:21] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: so, you're probably looking for apt-cacher
[08:21] <BoogieBoo> Is there anyone who managed to make VPN connection to work in intrepid?
[08:21] <Saga_> I'm trying to install Mytyhbuntu using this -- http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[08:22] <Saga_> Would it work -- It don't have LiveCD, or it seems so.
[08:22] <cplab2-58> rdw200169; we have a local sever to which we want to set the net connection and the client systems should make updations only from the server
[08:22] <BoogieBoo> ActionParsnip, I already know all that stuff, PPTP VPN conenction in intrepid is BGGED
[08:22] <toastedmilk> I just updated to 8.10 from 8.04 and now my sound doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[08:22] <BoogieBoo> BUGGED
[08:22] <BoogieBoo> I need someone who really managed to make VPN to work, not bot answers
[08:22] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: it's a little tricky, but certainly possible.  apt-cacher can do it, i haven't tried it in a while though, the package signing may cause a problem
[08:23] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: the most important thing to do, is specify a http proxy in each client's apt configuration that points to the apt-cacher port
[08:23] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: then apt-cacher sends the packages to the client, the first time, it downloads it, then the second (etc...) time it has it locally stored, and sends that
[08:23] <DasEi> prodigel : (grafically) go to > system > preferences >user n groups (system-modus) select the group floppy, see if it's activated
[08:23] <prodigel> DasEi, found it
[08:23] <BoogieBoo> The level of buggness is such yesterday I fixed it and it was working, today I switch on the computer and I try to connect and surprise! is not working, however the configuration is the same as yesterday
[08:23] <BoogieBoo> Ubuntu stable? I don't think so
[08:23] <prodigel> DasEi, unloaded module
[08:24] <DasEi> prodigel : sure, but why (fstab = automount)
[08:24] <prodigel> DasEi, still how did floppy module skipped from loading
[08:24] <toastedmilk> I just updated to 8.10 from 8.04 on 64 bit and now my sound doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[08:24] <cplab2-58> rdw200169; just a question....can u tell me how to exchange packages from one system to another system connected by lan
[08:24] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: well, apt stores packages in /var/cache/apt/packages
[08:25] <DasEi> prodigel : check the system group floppy ^
[08:25] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: depending on the apt configuration, it will delete some of the smaller ones regularly
[08:25] <orgthingy> toastedmilk : check all settings first by double-clicking sound cion at gnome-panel
[08:25] <orgthingy> toastedmilk : drivers problems if i may say? sometimes upgrades are incompatible, but since 8.04 is still supported you can use 8.04 with latest software..etc
[08:26] <prodigel> DasEi, user is in floppy group
[08:26] <BoogieBoo> Is there anyone who can help me please?
[08:26] <prodigel> DasEi, and in fstab it's no automount. Must I've written it wrong
[08:26] <frame02> ttt
[08:27] <Starcraftmazter> Hey, I just installed 8.10 on my laptop, copied over apt sources file, reloaded the repos, but i cant find all the packages i use be able to (eg. kvirc, compizconfig manager)
[08:27] <prodigel> DasEi, Thanks for helping. I've added floppy to etc/modules. That wil do for now
[08:27] <BoogieBoo> Nobody uses VPN connections in UBuntu or what?
[08:28] <cplab2-58> rdw200169; the thing is that just to save net speed...all systems are connected to the same lan...so transfer some packages from one system to another
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> BoogieBoo: its very stable here
[08:28] <cplab2-58> ikonia; u there
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | BoogieBoo
[08:28] <BoogieBoo> ActionParsnip, are you using VPN PPT connection?
[08:28] <toastedmilk> orgthingy, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[08:28] <DasEi> prodigel :got it ; yeah right, fs was auto , not mount
[08:28] <BoogieBoo> ActionParsnip, I already followied all the LAUNCHPAD
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> BoogieBoo: no but theres the community docs on it
[08:28] <Saga_> Anybody know cryptsetup well?
[08:29] <BoogieBoo> ActionParsnip, all those docs are not working, there is a big TICKET in launchpad
[08:29] <BoogieBoo> ActionParsnip, I have been 1 month following all those cdocuments
[08:29] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: i don't know what else to say.  the best way to do it is with apt-cacher.  the other way, is to do updates on one client, then copy the files it downloaded from /var/cache/apt/archives to the other clients
[08:29] <rdw200169> BoogieBoo: do you use a firewall ?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> BoogieBoo: then ive no idea. i dont use vpn in linux. Cisic do a vpn client for linux, you could try that
[08:30] <BoogieBoo> rdw200169, others computers in my same network are in that vpn now (they use XP), and also in my place when I was using XP I did too
[08:30] <DasEi> Saga_: specific question ?
[08:30] <toastedmilk> orgthingy, audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Failed to connect: Connection refused
[08:31] <rdw200169> BoogieBoo: but do  you use something like firestarter on the *linux* computer?
[08:31] <BoogieBoo> rdw200169, yesterday I fololowed the launchpad and I managed to make the VPN to work, however today I tried again and it si not working, so I checked if all the configuration I made yesterday is still there, and it is
[08:31] <cplab2-58> rdw200169; okk so how do i use apt-cacher
[08:31] <rdw200169> BoogieBoo: many times, the firewall ends up dropping packets
[08:31] <BoogieBoo> rdw200169, how Can I check that? but anyway, why yesterday it was working?
[08:31] <rdw200169> cplab2-58: i'm going to bed in a minute, so you're gonna have to google it, sorry :(
[08:31] <orgthingy> toastedmilk : hmm
[08:32] <orgthingy> downgrade to 8.04
[08:32] <DasEi> cplab2-58: apt-cache search ?
[08:32] <cplab2-58> rdw200169; okk thanq bud.....gr8 help
[08:32] <rdw200169> BoogieBoo: i don't know, i'm sorry.  you can, for dropped packets, if you're using firestarter for example, check the syslog
[08:32] <allsystemsarego> cplab2-58, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[08:33] <DasEi> prodigel :was that ibex ?
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> hi
[08:35] <Andry> hi guys
[08:35] <Andry> I relly need some help
[08:35] <pppoe_dude> i have a grub related issue. I reinstalled grub on my MBR, but it seems that it no longer reads /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:36] <Andry> I'd need some extremly detailed info about how to install applications under GNU/Linux - Ubuntu
[08:36] <Zuwxiv> have you checked the bios?
[08:36] <pppoe_dude> i could boot by typing in kernel/initrd/boot etc manually, but any ideas on how to get back the normal booting sequence?
[08:36] <Zuwxiv> made sure it's botting from the right drive, etc?
[08:36] <Mpole> the #windows people werent too helpful, but i googled for the answer... howtoforge has a lot of info!
[08:36] <Mpole> :-)
[08:36] <fosco_> !synaptic | Andry
[08:36] <DasEi> prodigel :was that ubuntu 8.10 and which driver did you load , floppy.ko ?
[08:36] <Flannel> pppoe_dude: Make sure you reinstalled GRUB properly (that its pointing at the right place for your menu.lst, etc)
[08:37] <Flannel> !grub | pppoe_dude, first link
[08:37] <Zuwxiv> I had a GRUB error 17 or something for a long time
[08:37] <pppoe_dude> Flannel, i will check that link
[08:37] <Andry> But can I install applications while I'm offline?
[08:37] <Mpole> Zuwxiv: i also had the same, i had to reinstall Ubuntu, but since my data was in a partition i didnt lose anything. always make a partition for your data.
[08:37] <fosco_> Andry: yes, use dpkg
[08:38] <Zuwxiv> yeah I eventually fixed it somehow
[08:38] <Zuwxiv> I booted into Windows and messed around with the boot stuff
[08:38] <bigbrovar> This Morning i was about to launch synaptic when all of a sudden the X server crashed and i was dumped to the login screen. when i relogin i checked the syslogs and about the time the issue occurred i got this
[08:38] <Zuwxiv> and used booting from the CD, don't remember exactly how I got it
[08:38] <bigbrovar>  gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[08:38] <pppoe_dude> Flannel, thanks i think this will solve my problem
[08:38] <Andry> but why is this so awkward? I need a different mentality to use Ubuntu!
[08:39] <bigbrovar>  when i also checked /avr/log/Xorg.0.log and just around the same time
[08:39] <bigbrovar> X: client 4 rejected from local host
[08:39] <pppoe_dude> hmmm... actually, i did exactly these steps, minus the find command
[08:39] <bigbrovar> i dont know what the issue could be. this is the first time its happening to me. i haven't done anything funky to the system which is otherwise very stable.
[08:39] <fosco_> Andry: i think is much more easier than windows way, matter of taste
[08:40] <bigbrovar> am on ibex anyway
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> the problem is that I have 2 linux installations here
[08:40] <DasEi> ﻿pppoe_dude:did you check if menu.lst exists ? did you do any repartition ?
[08:40] <DasEi> did*
[08:40] <bigbrovar> my hardware is a Dell M1330
[08:40] <thht> Andry: Package Management Systems are *way* easier to handle than M$
[08:40] <bigbrovar> Intel x300 GMA 965
[08:40] <pppoe_dude> DasEi, it does exist, on hd0,0
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> the one i'm using to set up grub... i could "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst" and manually boot it from the shell
[08:41] <pppoe_dude> hmm. perhaps another restart might make things more clear
[08:41] <omshanti> hi
[08:41] <omshanti> i'm trying to set a script executable how do i do that?
[08:41] <Ahadiel> omshanti, chmod +x file
[08:42] <DasEi> ﻿pppoe_dude:if reinstallation didn't work (grub's root = /boot , hd(0,0) is /dev/sda1
[08:42] <omshanti> thanks Ahadiel
[08:43] <DasEi> ﻿pppoe_dude:you could try super grub disk's repair option (google it, d/l, burn, reboot)
[08:43] <pppoe_dude> let me try and reboot, it seems like it autodetected everything finely, e.g.: Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
[08:43] <DasEi> ﻿pppoe_dude:sounds fine
[08:44] <pppoe_dude> any way to regenerate the menu.lst file?
[08:44] <Zuwxiv> would mkfile 32g cause any problems?
[08:45] <Zuwxiv> I don't want to crash my computer or anything
[08:45] <Zuwxiv> making 32gb of data would let me set up boot camp
[08:45] <pppoe_dude> brb
[08:46] <DasEi> ﻿ Zuwxiv: for resizing use gparted, and afterward check uuids of fstab
[08:46] <Zuwxiv> i'm not resizing any partitions, yet
[08:46] <Zuwxiv> problem is, I'd have to defrag first
[08:47] <ashutosh> Hi, will changing the MBR of my pendrive permanently make it for that os, I mean can i restore it back for its regular usage
[08:47] <Mpole> i will be back!
[08:47] <Zuwxiv> i'm on a mac, so >20mb files aren't defraged
[08:47] <ionicz> how do i uninstall ati drivers in ubuntu 8.10
[08:47] <DasEi> ashutosh: restarable
[08:47] <DasEi> o*
[08:47] <Zuwxiv> in order to make an area of 32gb consecutive free space, I could wipe the drive and restore, but I was hoping making a 32gb file through mkfile would work
[08:47] <Mpole> ooops
[08:47] <Mpole> i forgot
[08:47] <ashutosh> DasEi: How?
[08:47] <Mpole> how do i defragment my hard drive in Ubuntu?
[08:47] <Zuwxiv> strange problem, I know :P
[08:47] <lucio12345> hello what do i need to use to compare 2 files in ubuntu?
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> ok all good
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> i know what the problem was
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> i was running grub from my fedora installation
[08:48] <ionicz> how do uninstall the ati drivers i installed incorrectly in ubuntu 8.10
[08:48] <cplab2-58> hey one thing i noticed in here is that the user can change the root password...will not this be harmful
[08:48] <pppoe_dude> the ubuntu root wasn't even mounted
[08:48] <DasEi> ashutosh: you can delete all partitons again and restore mbr, too
[08:49] <Mpole> how do i defragment my hard drive in Ubuntu?
[08:49] <ashutosh> DasEi: Any software or get wrecking in DOS/BIOS
[08:50] <Flannel> !degrag | Mpole, you don't need to
[08:50] <Flannel> !defrag | Mpole, you don't need to
[08:50] <ionicz> how do i uninstall ati drivers in ubuntu 8.10?
[08:50] <DasEi> ashutosh: gparted for partis, dd for mbr >have to suit to your needs : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 bs=1 count=446 conv=notrunc
[08:50] <DasEi> see man dd
[08:51] <Mpole> thanks Flannel
[08:51] <ionicz> how do uninstall the ati drivers i installed incorrectly in ubuntu 8.10??
[08:52] <suigeneris> ionicz, sudo apt-get purge *ati*
[08:52] <DasEi> ashutosh: also super-grub-disk does nice jobs, so no prob in reverse
[08:53] <ionicz> E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[08:54] <ionicz> thaats what i get suigeneris
[08:54] <cplab2-58> hey one thing i noticed in here is that the user can change the root password...will not this be harmful
[08:54] <DasEi> cplab2-58: ??
[08:55] <Flannel> cplab2-58: Only admins can change the root password,
[08:55] <suigeneris> ionicz, try ati*
[08:55] <Flannel> cplab2-58: (Also, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account by default)
[08:56] <DasEi> ionicz: and use purge as --purge
[08:56] <cplab2-58> DasEi; now u just go to users & groups and check properties of root...u can set any password....doesn't this mean that root password can be changed
[08:57] <Flannel> cplab2-58: Only the admins can change that
[08:57] <DasEi> cplab2-58: not without the root passwort = superuser = root
[09:00] <n2diy> Wow, this morning I was running Breezy, and now I'm running Heron! The more I use this OS, the more like it.
[09:00] <rww> n2diy: glad you like it :). Hardy really is a big step up from Breezy!
[09:00] <DasEi> n2diy: greeting
[09:01] <Bryan> Oi! What is going on? I am trying to install the java browser plugin, and it is saying that the dependecy conflicts with the package I am attempting to install. icedtea6-plugin conflicts with icedtea-gcjwebplugin <<<
[09:01] <suigeneris> !breezy
[09:01] <suigeneris> wow 5.10
[09:01] <suigeneris> n2diy, congratulations dude
[09:02] <Flannel> !nickspam > wicope
[09:02] <dnyy> Does anyone in here use lxde?
[09:03] <mysticdarkhack> hey all
[09:03] <GGIbex> ikonia:  I'm done with this mess.  Thanks for the help
[09:04] <suigeneris> !hi | mysticdarkhack
[09:04] <mysticdarkhack> anyone here know a way or something to stop miro from being a  default bittorrent instead of transmission
[09:04] <rww> Bryan: icedtea-gcjwebplugin is a transition package. If you're trying to install it, stop and install/use icedtea6-plugin instead. If you're trying to install icedtea6-plugin and it's not letting you, remove icedtea-gcjwebplugin first and try again.
[09:04] <cplab2-58> DasEi; i didnt get u??
[09:04] <DasEi> cplab2-58: not without the root passwort = superuser = root you can change root's pw
[09:05] <mysticdarkhack> I tried uninstall and installing again, but the same resault
[09:05] <Bryan> rww, well I installed icedtea6-plugin and it's not working in my browser ;/
[09:05] <rww> Bryan: which browser are you using?
[09:05] <ja660k> how can i change my computers name? in terminal
[09:05] <rww> !hostname | ja660k
[09:05] <mysticdarkhack> even with properties setting to change transmission as default
[09:05] <Bryan> rww, firefox
[09:05] <Bryan> firefox3 to be more specific
[09:06] <mysticdarkhack> so anyone here have any idea?
[09:06] <rww> Bryan: navigate to "about:plugins" in firefox and see if there's an entry in there for "IcedTea Web Browser Plugin"
[09:06] <mysticdarkhack> or solution?
[09:06] <ne2k__> how do you type n-dash and m-dash on ubuntu?
[09:06] <ne2k__> I'm used to typing Alt-0150 and Alt-0151 on Windows, but it, err, doesn't work.
[09:07] <DasEi> mysticdarkhack: try to purge miro
[09:07] <Bryan> rww, :s nothing.
[09:07] <mysticdarkhack> DasEi, I tried that, but no resault
[09:08] <ogzy> is there anyone who had problems about using UTC=no at /etc/default/rcS at a single Ubuntu installed system? my BIOS is nor using UTC so i wonder changing the setting will have some drawbacks or not.
[09:08] <mysticdarkhack> could it be firefox?
[09:08] <DasEi> mysticdarkhack: with transmiison installed and miro off?  how could that be ?
[09:08] <mysticdarkhack> firefox trying to reconize the file to open with
[09:09] <DasEi> mysticdarkhack: sudo apt-get remove --purge miro
[09:09] <cplab2-58> DasEi; now i m in my computer lab... we have the main account which got created...now i enabled the root account...now i have to set an account so do i have to give access to this defaultly created user account or to a new account
[09:09] <rww> Bryan: so there are other plugins in there, but the IcedTea one is missing?
[09:10] <Bryan> rww, no there is no entry for java at all.
[09:10] <ikonia> cplab2-58 why have you enabled the root account
[09:10] <ikonia> cplab2-58: ubuntu's security model is based around sudo
[09:10] <Bryan> -_-;
[09:11] <Bryan> rww, My name is bryan and I am a noob. I had disabled java in the FF preferences.
[09:11] <rww> Bryan: if you don't have an aversion to non-free software, you could try installing Sun's Java plugin instead and see if that works better...
[09:11] <rww> Bryan: hehe, it works now?
[09:11] <Bryan> rww, actually, I had wanted that.
[09:11] <Bryan> Because I'm trying to play a game, and the icedtea plugin kinda...well..It does preform as well as I would like :c
[09:12] <rww> Bryan: hehe. So IcedTea appears when you enable Java again?
[09:12] <Bryan> yes it does indeed
[09:12] <LeonSquall> do you ppl know how I can use a shared windows bitware fax to ubuntu?
[09:12] <LeonSquall> I think I tried everything
[09:12] <LeonSquall> and still no go
[09:12] <ikonia> LeonSquall: maybe the hilaxfax software would work ?
[09:13] <ikonia> LeonSquall: or hylafax, can't remember how it's spelt
[09:13] <Bryan> rww, But I would rather use Sun's java plugin; because it preforms a bit better for what I want to do with the java plugin.
[09:13] <rww> Bryan: okay. I think the Sun Java plugin is sun-java6-jre? I'm not sure. If you want other similar stuff, you could install ubuntu-restricted-extras, which definitely has it.
[09:13] <LeonSquall> i guess I'll try that as the client
[09:13] <Bryan> ah mmk
[09:13] <LeonSquall> but i dnt want to use a hylafax server
[09:13] <mysticdarkhack> Anyway, I'm going to go now
[09:13] <cplab2-58> ikonia; i just enabled so that i can change the rights
[09:13] <mysticdarkhack> thank guys
[09:13] <ikonia> LeonSquall you dont have to
[09:13] <mysticdarkhack> tc
[09:14] <rww> Bryan: ubuntu-restricted-extras also includes non-free flash and various other stuff like that. But yeah, I know for sure that after installing that you'll have Sun's java plugin.
[09:14] <LeonSquall> really?
[09:14] <ikonia> cplab2-58: you don't need to do that to change anything
[09:14] <ikonia> cplab2-58: what was wrong with using sudo to change teh permissions ?
[09:14] <ikonia> LeonSquall: I think so, I'm no hylafax guru
[09:14] <cplab2-58> ikonia; i didnt get u??
[09:14] <LeonSquall> ok ill try that one
[09:14] <ikonia> LeonSquall: very worse senario would you'd run a local hylafax server that connect to your remote fax
[09:14] <ikonia> cplab2-58: what command did you do to "change the rights"#
[09:15] <sleepy_cat> is there a flv player for ubuntu 8.04
[09:18] <cplab2-58> how to install adobe flashplayer
[09:19] <ikonia> cplab2-58: the install routine is currently broke
[09:19] <whynot> hello. Can someone tell me ubuntu korean channel, please?
[09:19] <ikonia> !kr
[09:19] <Flannel> !ko | whynot
[09:19] <ikonia> there you go
[09:19] <whynot> Thank you
[09:19] <rww> pesky country codes
[09:20] <polywaffle> anyone on ekiga?
[09:20] <polywaffle> I would like to test a phone call
[09:22] <dv22> wanted to learn about cgi-scripting, so i installed apache and got it running and made a simple script. However, trying to save the script into /usr/lib/cgi-bin, my text editor gives a "cant open write file" guessing it has to do with permissions? same with saving to /var/www. also going to http:/servername/cgi-bin gives a "Forbidden access" error.
[09:22] <whynot> It's really strange.  I have a lot of things to ask about samba.  But nobody talks.  samba channel, samba technical channel. even in ubuntu korean channel.  I found out only one guy in samba channel to discuss samba.  But he is not available now.
[09:22] <ikonia> dv22 you need to change teh permissions of that directory to be owned by your user
[09:22] <polywaffle> same about ekiga
[09:22] <polywaffle> no one wants to talk about it
[09:23] <rww> woot, i got a shout out in a /part message :D
[09:23] <polywaffle> I bet they all use skype
[09:23] <ikonia> whynot: the samba channel can be very active, just wait for a response
[09:23] <whynot> ikonia/I heard that most of them are bots.
[09:23] <ikonia> whynot you heard wrong
[09:24] <sleepy_cat> FLV PLAYER FOR UBUNTU 8.04
[09:24] <whynot> ikonia/whatever, whoever they are.  They hardly talk nor answer.
[09:24] <sleepy_cat> PLZ GUYS HELP!!!!!
[09:24] <ikonia> sleepy_cat what about it (pleae don't use caps)
[09:24] <ikonia> whynot: I just said it can be very active WAIT for a response
[09:24] <sleepy_cat> i want a flv player for ubuntu 8.04
[09:24] <sleepy_cat> can u guide me where i can find one
[09:24] <sleepy_cat> site
[09:24] <ikonia> sleepy_cat is it not available in the repos ?
[09:25] <sleepy_cat> repos ?
[09:25] <sleepy_cat> nope
[09:25] <whynot> ikonia/Certainly I did.  (waited)  Silence kept going.
[09:25] <ikonia> sleepy_cat the ubuntu repos, open synaptic
[09:25] <sleepy_cat> i did sudo apt-get install flvplayer
[09:25] <sleepy_cat> its not there
[09:25] <ikonia> whynot you waited 3 minutes,
[09:25] <FloodBot3> sleepy_cat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <sleepy_cat> wait
[09:25] <whynot> ikonia/ much longer?
[09:25] <ikonia> sleepy_cat search for it, don't just assume the name
[09:25] <ikonia> whynot: lets stop discussing this
[09:26] <ikonia> sleepy_cat I assume you mean a flash player
[09:26] <whynot> ikonia/ok.  no problem.
[09:26] <sleepy_cat> \i found flvtool2 i installed it
[09:26] <sleepy_cat> but there is no player
[09:26] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: the automated install route for the "flashplugin-nonfree" package is curently broke in 8.04
[09:27] <DamnWindows> Hello, what does partition mean,t the C:\, D:\, E:\ etc?
[09:27] <ikonia> DamnWindows: they are windows drive letters
[09:27] <Veovis_Muaddib> Those are drive letters for use in windows
[09:27] <Veovis_Muaddib> too late...
[09:27] <sleepy_cat> DamnWindows: there are no partitions in Linux
[09:27] <DamnWindows> then what is partition, how do i make one to install ubuntu?
[09:27] <Veovis_Muaddib> There are partitions, there just aren't drive letters
[09:28] <Veovis_Muaddib> the ubuntu installer will help you partition
[09:28] <sleepy_cat> yeah Veovis_Muaddib is right
[09:28] <rww> !partition
[09:28] <sleepy_cat> /dev/
[09:28] <Veovis_Muaddib> it's pretty easy to use
[09:28] <sleepy_cat> ok u got windows
[09:28] <jim_p> !wireless
[09:28] <DamnWindows> yeah, thats what i want to damn
[09:28] <sleepy_cat> and u want to install ubuntu also or only ubuntu
[09:29] <DamnWindows> ubuntu also
[09:29] <sleepy_cat> DamnWindows:  u want both
[09:29] <DamnWindows> yep
[09:29] <sleepy_cat> then do one thing make a partition from windows and install Ubuntu inside windows only
[09:29] <DamnWindows> how to make a partition in windows?
[09:30] <Veovis_Muaddib> If you want both, I believe the default partitioning setup will have you covered.  Am I wrong?
[09:30] <sleepy_cat> put your cd in the drive and click install it will ask u for the drive letter give the one u partitioned and there u go.. Ubuntu will be installed in a dual boot basis
[09:30] <DamnWindows> <sorry i'm newbie?
[09:30] <DamnWindows> >
[09:30] <Veovis_Muaddib> It'd be easier in the ubuntu setup cd than in Windows
[09:30] <ikonia> DamnWindows the ubuntu installer will guide you
[09:30] <sleepy_cat> DamnWindows: r u a lady :P
[09:30] <polywaffle> hey will anyone test ekiga out with me?
[09:30] <ikonia> sleepy_cat please-  that has nothing to do with anything
[09:30] <koshar1> how do i add /home/user/bin to my path?
[09:30] <sleepy_cat> which Windows do u have
[09:30] <fxd> how can i download all *.zip files from a webpage (there are links to them) with wget?
[09:30] <sleepy_cat> Win xp or something else
[09:30] <DamnWindows> XP SP3
[09:30] <Flannel> koshar1: create a ~/bin and then log in again
[09:30] <DamnWindows> RO
[09:30] <ikonia> koshar1 PATH=$PATH:/home/usr/bin
[09:30] <sleepy_cat> cool
[09:31] <nnull> how do i make alias's stay on the system after reboot?
[09:31] <ikonia> nnull: put them in your .bash_profile
[09:31] <sleepy_cat> then just right click on the mu computer icon
[09:31] <ikonia> sleepy_cat: this isnot windows support
[09:31] <Flannel> ikonia: It should already be in there actually
[09:31] <sleepy_cat> and go to the last option there dont remember actually
[09:31] <Saga_> Question -- How do you reveal your encrpytion setup with cryptsetup?
[09:31] <enzotib> koshar1, open your .profile e add to the end the line: PATH=$PATH:/home/user/bin
[09:31] <jim_p> nnull, write it in .bashrc
[09:31] <ikonia> Flannel: he wants to add new alias I thought
[09:31] <sleepy_cat> ikonia: i know but she wants to install ubuntu from windows so showing her
[09:31] <Flannel> ikonia: He just wants it to be in his path.  ~/bin gets added if it exists
[09:32] <sleepy_cat> she doesnt know how to partition so helping her out with tht
[09:32] <nnull> jim_p¬ ok, that in home or?
[09:32] <ikonia> enzotib: bash will use .bash_profile and .bashrc over .bash_profile
[09:32] <koshar1> Flannel thanks
[09:32] <ikonia> Flannel: doesn't appear in my .bash_profile
[09:32] <Flannel> ikonia: You sure?  What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:32] <enzotib> ikonia, sorry, in my intrepid i have .profile and no .bash_profile
[09:33] <ikonia> Flannel double checking
[09:33] <Flannel> enzotib: In .profile you should have something that looks like this: if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}" fi  (on three lines)
[09:33] <Saga_> Perhaps -- .bashrc ?
[09:33] <koshar1> ikonia echo $PATH didnt show it but aftyer creating the dir and logging back in it did
[09:33] <enzotib> Flannel, your right
[09:34] <elliottm> why am I getting a 404 error when the flashplugin-nonfree installer tries to download the plugin in hardy?
[09:34] <eatThisAndDie> i usually create my own .bash_profile and include it from .bashrc. Then remove .bash_logout
[09:34] <nnull> Flannel¬ where do i find the .profile?
[09:34] <ikonia> Flannel: your correct, I was looking in my bash profile, not .profile
[09:34] <yksinaisyyteni> do i understand correctly, from reading the server support SLA, that to get support i'm required to register systems with "landscape", which effectively gives canonical root access?
[09:34] <polywaffle> does anyone want to try out ekiga wit me?
[09:34] <Flannel> nnull: less ~/.profile
[09:35] <ikonia> polywaffle I suggest you post something on the forums, as you keep asking every few minutes and no-one wants to
[09:35] <polywaffle> lawl
[09:35] <polywaffle> people are just shy or use skype
[09:36] <whynot> polywaffle/what kind of webcam do u use?
[09:36] <polywaffle> I use 1.3mps
[09:36] <polywaffle> I just want to try it out
[09:36] <polywaffle> compare it to skype
[09:37] <whynot> polywaffle/I tried netmeeting 10 years ago.  Actually there is nothing good, nothing new.
[09:37] <Veovis_Muaddib> So is there any good voice control, or even any at ll?
[09:37] <ikonia> whynot net meeting is nothing to do with his conversation - please keep this to ubuntu support discussion
[09:38] <whynot> ikonia/!
[09:38] <polywaffle> sorry
[09:38] <whynot> ikonia/ ok I will.
[09:39] <ikonia> Veovis_Muaddib: look at gnome-voice-control
[09:39] <Veovis_Muaddib> okay, thank you
[09:39] <poncha|work> hi. i am having a problem with 8.10 on laptop resuming from standby. the screen comes back corrupted (unreadable both under X and console, totally out of sync) . however if i try to reboot (shutdown -r now) , ubuntu shutdown splash with the progressbar reappears just fine. any idea where to look for the fix ?
[09:39] <Veovis_Muaddib> I'll install that right now
[09:39] <poncha|work> the laptop is ibm r50e with integrated intel video btw
[09:41] <whynot> ponchajwork/my desktop too.  when it comes back to normal from hibernation, it's not working fine.  I don't use powersave mode.
[09:41] <elliottm> why am I getting a 404 error when the flashplugin-nonfree installer tries to download the plugin in hardy?
[09:41] <ikonia> elliottm the install routine is broke
[09:42] <poncha|work> whynot: ok, so the problem is not laptop-only :) but why do you send a desktop to sleep? :) mine is always-on
[09:42] <elliottm> i kind of guessed, but why?
[09:42] <elliottm> i figured some osrt of update would have come out by now
[09:42] <elliottm> it's been happening for a while
[09:43] <Veovis_Muaddib> elliottm, it worked fine for me
[09:43] <ikonia> elliottm ubuntu can't force adobe to fix it
[09:43] <ikonia> elliottm: they are working with them
[09:43] <Veovis_Muaddib> have you tried it on more than one computer?
[09:43] <ikonia> Veovis_Muaddib: the routine is currently broke
[09:43] <elliottm> Veovis_Muaddib: you're sure you're in hardy?
[09:43] <whynot> ponchawork/ I've been trying many things on my desktop.  since this is my first time to use linux(ubuntu)
[09:43] <poncha|work> heh... and it looks like my lap won't resume from hibernation state at all... :/ ("Waking up, please wait..." on screen for over two minutes now and nothing happens)
[09:43] <Veovis_Muaddib> oh, sorry, I'm in intrepid
[09:44] <Saga_> Can somebody clean this up for me -- For further preparation you'll need a working internet connection. John suggested installing Ubuntu on an unencrypted primary partition. I did all necessary preparation with the live cd. First you'll need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe repository entries. -- I went to Software Source and toggled on "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe).  Is that it?
[09:44] <elliottm> ikonia well did adboe change the download location or is it down altogetheR?
[09:44] <ikonia> elliottm it changed the download location
[09:44] <cplab2-58> hey do we create a new class file in eclipse
[09:46] <elliottm> is there anything i can do in the meantime?
[09:46] <DasEi> Saga_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[09:47] <zzlyzq> hello . i want to do a 3A server on a ubuntu server ,any softwares?
[09:47] <nnull> how good a video card should i need to play ubuntu games like gnomtris and solitaire? they keep freezing the pc
[09:48] <perlmonkey> mornin guys
[09:48] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnul: Even an integrated video card from a few years back should handle those games
[09:48] <zzlyzq> hello . i want to do a 3A server on a ubuntu server ,any softwares?
[09:48] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ anyidea why these games keep freezing the pc ?
[09:48] <perlmonkey> Havin some probs with my hdd, lots of errors in dmesg and trying to work out if its a hw or sw prob.. anyone take a look? http://pastebin.com/m38f42839
[09:48] <hmw> ping
[09:48] <Saga_> DasEi, I got your message earlier -- About cryptsetup -- I have 3 HDD on cryptsetup.  I'm trying to find out the encrpytion information -- Is that possible?
[09:49] <DasEi> Saga_: which information ?
[09:49] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnul: I'm far from an expert, I can't help too much.  Are you running anything else in the background?
[09:49] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ nope
[09:49] <Saga_> Anything on the HDD as long as it remained unlock.
[09:49] <Saga_> DasEi, Look above.
[09:50] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnul, how much have you changed your ubuntu installation from the standard?
[09:50] <Veovis_Muaddib> it could be something you just installed
[09:51] <DasEi> Saga_: can't find it
[09:52] <congtuholuu> tamphongtran1002
[09:52] <congtuholuu> mi  dang lam gi the
[09:52] <ritow_> hello all
[09:53] <Saga_> DasEi, What do you mean?  The one I just said or the websites you're looking for?
[09:53] <congtuholuu> toi voi
[09:53] <Veovis_Muaddib> hello ritow
[09:53] <congtuholuu> ah oi
[09:53] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ cant think of anything ive installed, its basically a clean install from memory.
[09:53] <Saga_> DasEi, my buddy made 3 encrpyted HDD using cryptsetup and probably luks too.  I'm trying to find out the encrpytion setting -- How was this encrypted, etc.
[09:53] <ritow_> 能用中文不？
[09:53] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ but i have been swapping video cards through it (all running off the default driver) hasnt given me any warning or anything
[09:54] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnull: I don't know what else it could be then...  You'll have to find some professional help
[09:54] <rww> !cn | ritow_
[09:54] <ThomasRDK> I run an Ubuntu 8.04 LAMP server for multiple www domains, but i can't get the mail-server to work. I was advised to use this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - Does somybody have any experience with this tutorial? Is it good/bad? - Will it host several domains?
[09:54] <ritow_> thank you
[09:54] <robinpahwa> Somebody Please help me, on my previous Logon i misconfigured my Xserver due to which on starting my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron) it start to find servers for remote login, I dont know how to configure it back
[09:54] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnull: do you have drivers for any of them?  that could be the problem
[09:54] <DasEi> Saga_: take a look in gparted and run alternate installer >repairoption,  but got to know the p-phrases
[09:54] <OrdovicianZ> What programming language is used to write linux software+
[09:54] <OrdovicianZ> ?
[09:54] <Veovis_Muaddib> Lots
[09:55] <OrdovicianZ> like, which?
[09:55] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: what do you mean by mail server?
[09:55] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ nar, just running off the standard video driver, they are old tnt2
[09:55] <Veovis_Muaddib> Ordovician: I recommend C++
[09:55] <eatThisAndDie> OrdovicianZ: if you're a beginner i'd recommend GTK
[09:55] <rww> OrdovicianZ: you can use practically any programming language to write linux software. The linux kernel itself is written in C.
[09:55] <nnull> Veovis_Muaddib¬ do i need to enable 3d hardware excel?
[09:55] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnull: I'd go find the official drivers before you do anything else
[09:55] <Veovis_Muaddib> nnull: you shouldn't need to, but drivers would help
[09:56] <DasEi> ﻿OrdovicianZ:additional python, java...
[09:56] <congtuholuu> tamphongtran1002
[09:56] <congtuholuu> dang lam gi day
[09:56] <congtuholuu> chat di
[09:56] <OrdovicianZ> Thank you.
[09:56] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie - POP3/SMTP
[09:56] <congtuholuu> congtuholuu_cntt
[09:56] <Veovis_Muaddib> Does that mean that the bot thinks I'm flooding?
[09:57] <Veovis_Muaddib> I'm new to IRC
[09:57] <congtuholuu> kdjfksjd
[09:57] <congtuholuu> vao chat di chu
[09:57] <congtuholuu> toi la congtuholuu
[09:57] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: POP3 meaning you're trying to host your email server there?
[09:57] <robinpahwa> Somebody Please help me, on my previous Logon i misconfigured my Xserver due to which on starting my Ubuntu(Hardy Heron) it start to find servers for remote login, I dont know how to configure it back
[09:57] <eatThisAndDie> robinpahwa dpkg-reconfigure
[09:58] <Saga_> I'm following this tutorial -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto -- However, I'm stick at (sudo mobprobe aes-i586) -- It say FATAL:  Module aes_i586 not found.  Any suggestions?
[09:58] <Veovis_Muaddib> Saga_: you might need to download that file
[09:58] <robinpahwa> eatThisAndDie: I have reconfigured my xserver using recovery mode ... is it the same dpkg-reconfigure
[09:59] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie - Yup - well, i'm kinda new to hosting, but i've been working with web for 10-13 years so i'm open for other proposals.
[09:59] <Saga_> Veovis_Muaddib, What do you mean?  What files?  I just started following the tutorial.
[09:59] <Veovis_Muaddib> I'm far from an expert, but maybe an apt-get would do the trick
[09:59] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: I'd recommend Zimbra.
[09:59] <Veovis_Muaddib> I'm not sure though
[09:59] <jtaji> Saga_: hmm that's completely unnecessary, latest ubuntu version supported encrypted lvm from the alternate cd
[10:00] <eatThisAndDie> but it runs on Java so after turning it on, it will suck your soul
[10:00] <Saga_> jtaji, Will check into it.
[10:00] <eatThisAndDie> the other option is well..... Google Apps.
[10:00] <eatThisAndDie> robinpahwa: I have no idea what recovery mode really is... but well... does it work now?
[10:00] <smelian> hi . i have problem with sound in Xp+ vista its louder and better than ubuntu i tried alsamixer put all in hight and its still not loud
[10:01] <Veovis_Muaddib> smelian: what computer model do you have?
[10:01] <robinpahwa> eatThisAndDie: No, Even i m unable to get CLI
[10:01] <eatThisAndDie> robinpahwa:if it doesnt then you'd give "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" a go
[10:01] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie -  I need a 'server service', not an application. Java sounds like a bad solution for this, am i right?
[10:01] <eatThisAndDie> robinpahwa: can you see grub?
[10:01] <jtaji> Saga_: they cover the process here http://learninginlinux.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/installing-ubuntu-804-with-full-disk-encryption/
[10:02] <RukusX> i have some external hard drive blues. I cannot get my usb 2.0  external drive to run at its full 2.0 speed. can anyone help me?
[10:02] <robinpahwa> eatThisAndDie: When i choose Recovery mode i can login as root
[10:02] <smelian> Veovis_Muaddib : im using desktop + laptop asus n10  they have same problem
[10:03] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX:  A few questions: do you have USB 2.0 ports, and what kind of HD is it?
[10:03] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: It works well for long term... it has a better management console, etc.
[10:03] <eatThisAndDie> nice gui, nice applets, less admin work.
[10:03] <eatThisAndDie> But if you're not looking for an application, then this is not for you.
[10:04] <eatThisAndDie> I'm guessing you've already pointed the MX to your server rite?
[10:04] <Saga_> jtaji, Thank you so much.   I'm downloading the ISO now. :)
[10:04] <Veovis_Muaddib> smelian: I would look on the page about ubuntu supported computers and check to see if your models have any sound issues
[10:04] <eatThisAndDie> robinpahwa: you get a limited shell in recovery mode i think.
[10:04] <Veovis_Muaddib> that'd be my first step
[10:04] <DasEi> Saga_: also a more updated link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[10:04] <jtaji> Saga_: I used it on my laptop, it's very easy :)
[10:04] <Gast52> mandravia versus ubuntu???
[10:05] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib,  yes i do have usb ports. its an external kaser drive.  and i just ran full speed about a week ago.    this is the result of dmesg | grep usb  :     http://pastebin.ca/1285799
[10:05] <smelian> Veovis_Muaddib: laptop asus n10j - desktop its built in intel
[10:05] <Saga_> jtaji, Just wondering -- Would configuring LVM mess up the Ubuntu, especially when it's encrypted?
[10:05] <DasEi> !ot > Gast52
[10:05] <RukusX> sorry
[10:05] <Saga_> Expanding // Shrinking size, that is.
[10:05] <robinpahwa> eatThisAndDie: I m not even sure if the problem is exactly the Xserver ... i can see the GUI where it searches for HOst machine for logon ... but actually i need a user logon instead of finding a host machine
[10:05] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib, i mean yes i do have usb 2.0 ports
[10:06] <Saga_> jtaji, Expanding // Shrinking size, that is.  Have you tried this yet? >_>
[10:06] <jtaji> Saga_: no you can do that stuff on the fly, lvm is very convenient, I use it on most of my installs now
[10:06] <DasEi> Saga_: at least the uuids won't match no  more, and if disk-space is rare, fair chance for damage
[10:06] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie - Do you have any experience with the native linux options like postfix or exim?
[10:07] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: What have you changed since it stopped working
[10:07] <jtaji> Saga_: best bet is to keep the logical volumes smaller for now and leave a bunch of free space to expand as necessary later
[10:07] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: I used to but i got lazy... i mean... SMART :P
[10:07] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib, i'd like to tell you. but i can't.
[10:07] <jtaji> Saga_: even if you're doing one big / partition, leave a bit of space for another one or for snapshot backups
[10:08] <ThomasRDK> he he.. ;)
[10:08] <dnyy> What are the package names for the "Add/Remove Applications" and "Edit Menu" apps?  I uninstalled gnome, and they went with it. :(
[10:08] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: Are you the only one who uses your computer?
[10:08] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: I used postfix btw.
[10:09] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib, yes
[10:09] <Veovis_Muaddib> okay
[10:09] <rww> dnyy: gnome-app-install and alacarte
[10:10] <Saga_> jtaji -- Originally I was going to use this (PC) for media center -- but Mythubuntu's GUI seems sloppy right now.  So I wanted to install LVM / Encrpyted and I'm not going to resize it though.  Making one partition for Home/Boot then another partition for media.  I don't think I'll need snapshot backups tho.
[10:10] <dnyy> rww: thanks. :)
[10:10] <Veovis_Muaddib> RuckusX: I'm sorry, I'm trying to figure out what the problem could be, but I'd need to be there to help really...
[10:10] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie - Ok, can i catch you on MSN or similar?
[10:10] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib, it would be just ubuntu updates when requested and other programs i may have installed, that i honeslty didnt keep track of.
[10:11] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: I doubt it would be an Ubuntu update
[10:11] <RukusX> well what would make a drive just start to refuse to even recongize ehci_hcd ?
[10:11] <RukusX> ya i didn't think so
[10:11] <eatThisAndDie> ThomasRDK: PMed you
[10:12] <Saga_> jtaji, But I thought of something -- I should be using this on my laptop in first place --- It's my main system. It's in ext3 and the link you gave me -- very good points for using encrypted LVM in first place. :<
[10:12] <jtaji> Saga_: /boot needs to be a small separate non lvm partition
[10:12] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: I'm not sure at all
[10:12] <ThomasRDK> eatthisanddie - Ok, can i catch you on MSN or similar?
[10:12] <lyte> does anyone know if banshee can convert to aac instead of mp3?
[10:12] <RukusX> Veovis_Muaddib,  i don;t use any other usb devices other than the drive either
[10:13] <Veovis_Muaddib> aac is a proprietary format, isn't it?
[10:13] <polywaffle> surely ffmpeg would do it
[10:13] <lyte> yes but there are definitely free encoders
[10:13] <polywaffle> get down and dirty into the command line
[10:14] <lyte> nah, banshee has a nice gui that talks to my ipod, i'd like to use aac though
[10:14] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: I can't think of anything it could be other than a driver issue or something
[10:14] <RukusX> well what can i try? i have tried unloading and loading the ehci_hcd module
[10:14] <RukusX> umounting and  mounting
[10:14] <RukusX> i have no idea
[10:15] <Veovis_Muaddib> Can you read it fullspeed with other computers?
[10:15] <RukusX> never tried
[10:15] <robinpahwa> I have accidentally enabled XDMCP in my GDM settings due to which i cannot see my login screen and cannot login to my local machine, it searches for Host machine ...  Help me in removing XDMCP please
[10:16] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: What I would suggest, depending on the size of the drive, is to back it up on another computer, then format.  I'm not sure if that would help, but I'd try it myself.
[10:18] <RukusX> ya... that is not gonna happen
[10:18] <RukusX> this sucks
[10:18] <ThomasRDK> I need help setting up an Ubuntu SMTP/POP3 server. I've setup PHP/APACHE and other services so i only need to setup the mail-server now. The server needs to be handling multiple domains, eg: aaaa.com and bbbb.com. Any experienced advices on how to proceed?
[10:18] <RukusX> how can something work one day and not the rest? is this how ubuntu is? works.... maybe?
[10:19] <Veovis_Muaddib> RukusX: I'm not sure what to do then.
[10:19] <RukusX> thanks for the help anyways
[10:19] <Vinceman> what is the deal with playing DVD's you bought in the store with linux?
[10:19] <robinpahwa> I have accidentally enabled XDMCP in my GDM settings due to which i cannot see my login screen and cannot login to my local machine, it searches for Host machine ... Help me in removing XDMCP please
[10:19] <Veovis_Muaddib> but I have to go, my computer's running slowly ever since I installed Songbird.  I have to figure out why before I start helping someone else.:P
[10:20] <Vinceman> I get this error while trying it: An error occurred: Could not read from resource.
[10:20] <johnwedd> Veovis_Muaddib: songbird is notoriously bad on ubuntu, better off on amarok 2
[10:21] <johnwedd> Attention Open Source Community!!
[10:21] <ikonia> johnwedd what do you want ?
[10:23] <johnwedd> i wish to debate some of the finer points of the OS community and culture
[10:23] <AlexCONRAD> Hi, I'd like to have advanced desktop effets and I saw people talking about CompizTool in Applications > Accessories, which I don't have. What package do I need to install to get it ?
[10:23] <rww> johnwedd: wander over to #ubuntu-offtopic, then. This is a support channel, not a debate channel :)
[10:23] <ikonia> johnwedd this is not a debate channel, this is a support channel only, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <johnwedd> thanks rww, have a good evening/morning
[10:24] <johnwedd> ?join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <rww> !ccsm | AlexCONRAD
[10:24] <Saga_> jtaji, You seems to know a lot about LVM + Luks so I'm asking you something else if you're still there.  My buddy whom use Gentoo set up 3 encrypted HDDS on my computer long ago.  Too much so I moved down to Ubuntu.  How do I display encryption information on my HDDs as long as it's mounted?
[10:25] <AlexCONRAD> rww: thanks
[10:26] <jtaji> Saga_: I've only really resized a few times :p
[10:26] <Saga_> jtaji, I was speaking of... encryption issue.  I wanted to know what kind of encryption are being used on the HDD.  Or do you use a laptop, but no computer?
[10:27] <jtaji> Saga_: I use both, and only encrypt the laptop... no idea on the details
[10:28] <MoLoot> debating finer points of OS community and culture... does that mean he is soliciting a flamewar? ;)
[10:28] <Saga_> jtaji, I mean.. I use lvdisplay -C... it shows me LV VG Attr, LSize, etc, but nothing about encryption... so I'm looking for commands to display.  Etc.  Got it. ;)
[10:29] <Anna21> i have forgotten the password for my user. i cant login. what can i do?
[10:30] <rww> !password | Anna21
[10:30] <Anna21> thx :)
[10:32] <ThomasDenmark> I need help setting up an Ubuntu SMTP/POP3 server. I've setup PHP/APACHE and other services so i only need to setup the mail-server now. The server needs to be handling multiple domains, eg: aaaa.com and bbbb.com. Any experienced advices on how to proceed?
[10:33] <root> g
[10:34] <Guest49193> hallooo
[10:34] <Anna21> what is the "grub prompt"?
[10:35] <eatThisAndDie> Anna21: do you know what the 'grub' is?
[10:35] <Anna21> nope
[10:35] <rww> Anna21: it's the prompt when you turn on your computer that says either something about pressing ESC to get to a menu, or has a list of things like "Ubuntu", "Ubuntu (recovery mode)", "memtest86", etc.
[10:36] <eatThisAndDie> Anna21: when you boot up, do you see a menu that says "press any key to enter the grub menu"
[10:36] <Anna21> ok thx
[10:36] <eatThisAndDie> ...or i think rww has a better description of it... so yeah... that one.
[10:37] <Mal3ko> guys..how do i know if my system needs additional ram?
[10:37] <MoLoot> Mal3ko: When it runs slow...
[10:37] <Saga_> Is it safe to remove files from /boot?  "Clean up" etc?
[10:38] <eatThisAndDie> Saga_: why would you want to do that??
[10:38] <Mal3ko> MoLoot: i dont know if it runs slow or fast it's ubuntu server..i just have ssh access to it
[10:38] <MoLoot> Mal3ko: When your swap file is all used and your computer sounds louder all the time
[10:38] <eatThisAndDie> Mal3ko: check out the swap usage
[10:38] <kc8pxy> how do i cnage which xorg driver  ubuntu uses for my video card?
[10:38] <Saga_> eatThisAndDie, Checking up on my boot size and the tutorial.  Tutorial use 150MB for boot, mine is over the size and I noticed two kernels, or that's what I think it is.
[10:38] <ikonia> MoLoot: don't give nonsense advice
[10:39] <Anna21> how do i know whoch one of the two is rescure mode?
[10:39] <eatThisAndDie> Saga_: if you've ever upgraded your kernel you WOULD see 2.
[10:39] <eatThisAndDie> ..or more
[10:39] <Mal3ko> eatThisAndDie: vmstat Swap: 3153  2  3150
[10:40] <Mal3ko> total/used/free
[10:40] <MoLoot> ikonia: I believe that all of my statements were true. :(
[10:40] <Saga_> eatThisAndDie, For instance... I have initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic + initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic..... I'm probably safe to delete the outdated one, right? :O
[10:40] <rww> Anna21: the rescue mode one has "(recovery mode)" at the end of its name
[10:40] <ikonia> MoLoot: "your computer gets louder when your running low on memory"
[10:40] <eatThisAndDie> Mal3ko: Doesn't look like you do.
[10:40] <Anna21> rww i run defora 9 and i see no  "(recovery mode)" at the end of its name
[10:40] <MoLoot> ikonia: from the harddrive constantly accessing and swapping out.
[10:40] <eatThisAndDie> Saga_: I wouldn't do it., But that's just me being paranoid.
[10:40] <Anna21> fedora*
[10:41] <ikonia> MoLoot: that doesn't mean louder
[10:41] <rww> Anna21: if you're running Fedora, you'll want to ask for help in #fedora, not here.
[10:41] <Anna21> ok
[10:41] <Mal3ko> lol
[10:41] <eatThisAndDie> Anna21: I would recommend you run Ubuntu instead of Fedora..
[10:42] <MoLoot> ikonia: We'll agree to disagree on that... at least on my antiquated equipment that is a true statement.
[10:42] <eatThisAndDie> but if you've already installed it and need to recover your files then do that.
[10:42] <ikonia> MoLoot: disk activity does not mean low on ram, think of the person your giving the advice to
[10:42] <eatThisAndDie> Else: reformat / install ubuntu
[10:44] <hischild> I'm attempting to set up a PDC, and while doing net getlocalsid i get an error. ---> failed to bind to server ldap://localhost/ with dn="cn=admin,dc=example,dc=local" Error: Invalid credentials <--- i've checked my config files. This is just a first attempt, so example and local are correct.
[10:45] <MoLoot> ikonia: no, but persistant disk activity over a long period of time can be the result of constant swapping; which, in turn, could cause your computer to be louder because the hard drive is constantly accessing. (if you are not running Raptors, for example)... but that's enough of all that...
[10:45] <ikonia> hischild is ldap running, is it bound to localhost,
[10:45] <hischild> MoLoot, and what if i'm downloading and seeding for example torrents?
[10:46] <hischild> ikonia, How can i check if it's bound to localhost? It is running.
[10:46] <ikonia> MoLoot I can't believe your still arguing it, just think about what your saying to people as advice, you don't know his setup, you don't know how loud his disks are, you don't know if he uses hi-io setup
[10:47] <vladtsepesh1984> how can i have dual monitor on ubuntu 8.10???
[10:47] <MoLoot> ikonia: relax, I'll choose my words more carefully next time.
[10:47] <wesolek> hello! I've accidentally deleted the bottom launch-bar from my desktop (xubuntu) and I don't know how to get it back. Without it I can't see minimised windows nor I can see which desktop I am on. Can anybody advise on this?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | vladtsepesh1984
[10:48] <apelW> hello all. I installed ubuntu 8.04 lts server on a laptop and it refuses to boot. Says that I got the wrong processor. How can I force it to boot or change the kernel?
[10:48] <Saga_> jtaji, Just wondering.  After installing laptop, do you unlock partiion first, then run Ubuntu, or will it boot up as normal, but only that it's encrypted instead?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> wesolek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=608389
[10:49] <ne2k__> wesolek: do you still have the top bar? you can right click on it, click "new panel" and then right click on the new panel and click "add to panel" and add whatever you want -- workspace switcher, window list, etc.
[10:49] <Saga_> jtaji, Finally... I'm almost done downloading... I chose a shitty server -- 98% now.
[10:49] <apelW> the kernel?
[10:49] <wesolek> thanks ActionParsnip
[10:49] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip: that thread doesn't really look relevant
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> apelW: you cant install a 64bit OS on a 32bit CPU, download the 32bit ISO
[10:49] <wesolek> ne2k__ thanks, let me try that
[10:49] <apelW> ActionParsnip:  I know
[10:50] <Mal3ko> have they fixed the linux rt kernel in ubuntu?
[10:50] <apelW> I tried both
[10:50] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip: what has xfce got to do with anything?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ne2k__: 1) Start xfce4-panel in the background.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> 2) Logout with Save Session enabled.
[10:50] <apelW> and I could install the 32 bit system all the way
[10:50] <apelW> and it won't reboot
[10:50] <apelW> comp+laining about the processor
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> apelW: did you md5 check the iso as well as verify the cd had no errors?
[10:50] <Saga_> Lol.  I never check my ISOs.  <_<
[10:50] <luszien> jest ktoś z polski ??
[10:50] <ne2k__> ActionParsnip: wesolek: apologies, I didn't see the "xubuntu" in the original question. Ignore what I said, ActionParsnip is correct
[10:51] <ne2k__> !pl
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: you should
[10:51] <luszien> aha oki
[10:51] <luszien> ;d
[10:51] <apelW> Starting up: This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6 Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[10:51] <wesolek> oh ok thanks ne2k__
[10:51] <ne2k__> wesolek: I assumed you were on gnome.
[10:51] <Mal3ko> apelW: i believe you need PAE
[10:52] <apelW> ActionParsnip:  I installed this cd on another computer before
[10:52] <apelW> PAE?
[10:52] <apelW> what's that?
[10:52] <wesolek> ne2k__, I didn't know they are that much different. They look the same to me :(
[10:52] <Steffi1> what app do you use to extract *.rar files?
[10:52] <Steffi1> xarchive manager??
[10:52] <unop> Steffi1, unrar
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> apelW: check em, you could add some boot options to te installed kernel
[10:52] <rww> !rar | Steffi1
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | apelW
[10:53] <unop> Steffi1, xarchive* can extract rar files if you have unrar installed
[10:53] <ikonia> apelW: is that withi vbox you get that message
[10:53] <ne2k__> wesolek: xfce isn't used as part of gnome. I don't know anything about xubuntu but from that thread it appears to suggest that it's used on it
[10:53] <Saga_> ActionParsnip, MD5Sum Verifed.  All good. :)
[10:53] <apelW> great. it doesn't ake command arguments.
[10:53] <apelW> ikonia:  on boot
[10:53] <hischild> ikonia, i have an idea why it isn't working,though i may be wrong. Do you mind if i ask you a few questions?
[10:53] <apelW> just after bios screen
[10:53] <ikonia> apelW on boot within virtual box or a native system
[10:54] <apelW> native system
[10:54] <ikonia> hischild: sure
[10:54] <apelW> laptop
[10:54] <ikonia> apelW: what cpu do you have ?
[10:54] <apelW> pentium m processor
[10:54] <ikonia> apelW: ahhh your tyring to install teh server
[10:54] <wesolek> ne2k__ I will follow that thread :) thanks guys :)
[10:54] <FloodBot2> apelW: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <apelW> yes
[10:54] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <ikonia> apelW: the server kernel is for enterprise hardware, not for the laptop
[10:54] <apelW> hmm
[10:54] <ikonia> apelW: your cpu does not have the requirments for the server kernel
[10:54] <apelW> I see
[10:55] <apelW> Well. I will get another version then :-(
[10:55] <ikonia> apelW: what is wrong with the desktop version ?
[10:55] <ne2k__> !server
[10:55] <ne2k__> !kernel
[10:56] <ikonia> ne2k__: please investigate the bot in private for big / multiple queries
[10:56] <ne2k__> ikonia: is two big and multiple_
[10:56] <apelW> ikonia:  thank you so much for your valuable help
[10:56] <ikonia> ne2k__ two is multiple and the responses are big
[10:56] <Saga_> I wonder if there are a such thing as Ubuntu Core?
[10:56] <ikonia> apelW: is tehre a problem with you using the desktop
[10:56] <ikonia> Saga_: what do you mean ?
[10:56] <Saga_> Barebone, that is.  With the GUI tho.
[10:56] <ne2k__> ikonia: the responses were each one line
[10:56] <ikonia> Saga_ gui isn't barebones
[10:57] <ikonia> ne2k__: they where big responses though
[10:57] <Saga_> GUI Barebone, kinda?
[10:57] <hischild> The suffix from ldap consists of 2 parts, both starting with dc, but in the bind file a part that starts with cn= is somehow added in front of it. What does the cn stand for and what value should it have?
[10:57] <apelW> ikonia: we got this laptop as a test machine..
[10:57] <Saga_> ikonia, If you get my drift -- Without the included packages.
[10:57] <ikonia> Saga_ they are part of the gui
[10:57] <lmartin92> I used SUM in Intrepid to help change my USPLASH theme (grub theme I decided on works like perfectly); now I need to know why I have black screen boots instead of usplash boots; I am using a gnomelook usplash (that should work); I followed lots of steps, did SUM manager, the switched to manually doing it and it still fails to work
[10:57] <apelW> so we need to test  our application server. but I guess we can do it on the desktop version.
[10:57] <ikonia> apelW: won't see any difference
[10:58] <ne2k__> is there an easy-cheesy list of differences between the precompiled server and desktop kernels?
[10:58] <apelW> it would be better to really simulate a production encironment though
[10:58] <apelW> environment*
[10:58] <ikonia> ne2k__: not that I'm aware of it is detailed in the change logs
[10:58] <apelW> well. our coders are a bit against radical changes
[10:58] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> hiii some there maybe can help me?
[10:58] <apelW> :-P
[10:58] <ikonia> hischild: so you base is dc=blah,dc=.com
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: md5 is used to verify what you downloaded is correct as line noises and transmission errors can garble to file and make it unusable
[10:59] <ne2k__> hischild: cn is common name. you need to have a (I believe) common name fro each entity
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: so if you check the md5sum passes you know its ok
[10:59] <hischild> ikonia, yeah. The base i'm using for now is iositd.local so i changed that into dc=iositd,dc=local ... that's correct?
[10:59] <ne2k__> !ask > MAINFRAME_LINDEB
[10:59] <ikonia> hischild your cn=blah,dc=blah,dc=com is normally the interface you want to use for your manager
[10:59] <Mal3ko> anyone is using Landscape here? is it free of charge?
[10:59] <ikonia> hischild: normally cn=manager,dc=blah,dc=com
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> !info landscape
[11:00] <hischild> ActionParsnip, it's the server management thing from canonical.
[11:00] <Saga_> ActionParsnip, I know.  I'm aware of this -- but I just never check all MD5 as I download them.  Usually it goes through just okay but if I experience some kind of issues, lot of hours of pain could be avoided in first place.  Hmm. :<
[11:00] <hischild> Mal3ko, there's a trial, but i don't htink it is free.
[11:00] <hischild> ne2k__, so which name i fill in there is not important? I'm rather new to setting up a PDC and all, so it's a huge learning experience.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: exactly, and it means yyou know its not that causing the issue
[11:00] <Saga_> ActionParsnip, But you make a valid argument.  I know I should.
[11:01] <Mal3ko> well it says free trial..but im not sure if that means free forever or free just for limited period of time
[11:01] <hischild> ikonia, i'm wondering if it matters if i leave cn=admin there, or if i should change it.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !webmin | hischild
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | hischild
[11:01] <wesolek> ActionParsnip, I think I am too dumb for that thread...
[11:01] <hischild> ActionParsnip, no not that one. Besides, ebox is broken on intrepid.
[11:01] <apelW> !ebox
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> hischild: ah
[11:02] <ikonia> hischild: depends how you set up your domain
[11:02] <apelW> is ebox as good as webmin?
[11:02] <ikonia> apelW much better
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> hischild: http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape
[11:02] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> Hi, I have a problem whit my Xorg. It takes all of my cpu power. it's between 60-90% all of the time, and i got no programs running, but firefox??? PLEASE HELP ME??
[11:02] <ikonia> MAINFRAME_LINDEB what specification is your machine
[11:02] <apelW> apt-get install ebox (?)
[11:02] <hischild> ActionParsnip, yeah, that one.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> wesolek: you need to rerun the bar, then save the session so it runs next time you log in
[11:03] <Oli``> Can anybody advise a network monitor that will show how much bandwidth a process is using?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> hischild: Landscape is free of charge to all of Canonical’s support customers. As part of your annual subscription you are allowed unlimited access to this powerful tool that will reduce the cost of ownership in your Linux environment significantly. Landscape is also available by subscription for those who do not require support contracts.  Subscription to the Landscape service is priced at $150 per node per year.
 'rerun'?
[11:03] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> IBM THINKPAD T41 whit a centrino prossor
[11:03] <ne2k__> MAINFRAME_LINDEB: your all-caps, long nick is irritating
[11:03] <ikonia> Oli``: ntop for real time, conky for build up
[11:03] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> srry
[11:03] <ikonia> MAINFRAME_LINDEB: does that have an ati video card in it, or an S3
[11:03] <rebel_kid> when running a command even in kAlarm i understand the daemon must be running and the user must be logged in, but would the command still be triggered if the screen was locked or possibly on switch users? if it makes a difference the command plays a sound file in vlc
[11:03] <rebel_kid> command event*
 when I typed xfce-panel, it said it's already running
[11:04] <hischild> ActionParsnip, you were doing !info landscape, but it won't find anything. You'll probably want to direct that post at Mal3ko instead.
[11:04] <Mud|afk> ActionParsnip: too bad :p I think its a nice tool :p
[11:04] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> no its not an ati but i dont know the name om my grapical card
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> wesolek: the forum says what to do, the first instrction runs the bar again, then the 2nd saves the fact that it is to run
[11:04] <ikonia> rebel_kid should still work
[11:04] <Neodemi> is there a way i can find out when i installed ubuntu on this machine
[11:04] <rebel_kid> ikonia, thank you, have a good day :)
[11:04] <ikonia> MAINFRAME_LINDEB how do you know it's not an ati then ?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Neodemi: you could look at when your home folder was created maybe
[11:05] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> hehe i can rember it from when i got xp on it
[11:05] <hischild> ikonia, Hmm ok. I'm not sure how i should set up my domain then. It'll be iositd.local with hischild as the administrative user.
[11:05] <sond> does hardy server not have atheros ath_pci modules prerolled?
[11:05] <Saga_> Which do you use XChat or Gnome XChat?
[11:05] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> but ill find out what card i got
[11:05] <ikonia> hischild forget the user at the moment, it should be cn=manager/admin (whatever you setup as an admin bind) dc=iositd,dc=local
[11:06] <ikonia> Saga_ does it matter ?
[11:06] <rww> Saga_: xchat-gnome is weird and strange. use xchat instead.
[11:06] <hischild> ikonia, *forgets user*. just a second as i set it up. Thanks for all the help already btw.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: pidgin here
[11:06] <ikonia> hischild not a problem
[11:07] <Saga_> I'm going to test Gnome soon.  I need a darker theme for chat, I think.
[11:07] <rblst> my bootspalsh is gone after upgrading to 8.10, how can i get it back?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> !usplash
[11:07] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> ikonia - sorry it is an 32MB ATI Radeon 7500
[11:08] <ikonia> MAINFRAME_LINDEB ok, the common cause of your behaviour is the driver not being very good, hence why it easts resources
[11:08] <Neodemi> thanks ActionParsnip, ive been using ubuntu since 29th sept :)
 sorry, my bad, I didn't follow that other link that was there... seems to be working fine now :) thanks
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Neodemi: nice
[11:08] <Saga__> Testing.
[11:08] <avro> any chance of a dell AIO 810 printer working under linux? Currently i think i'm about 0.1% likely to get it to work, just wondered if you guys knew of any solutions or Works in progress i can monitor.
[11:08] <MAINFRAME_LINDEB> okay but when im going to ibm's homepage i can't get any drivers to linux?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> wesolek: np man
[11:09] <ikonia> !ati > MAINFRAME_LINDEB
[11:09] <wesolek> :)
[11:09] <jscinoz> hi, im trying to  use iptables, iptables-save made a file, but iptables-restore says there is an error on line 25 of the file (http://pastebin.com/f64771690) but i cannot see what is wrong with it
[11:10] <hischild> ikonia, does the workgroup matter in this case? the smb.conf seems to want one.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> jscinoz: open the file and press enter on the end of line 25
[11:10] <ikonia> hischild samba is nothing to do with ldap at this level
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> jscinoz: then save and exit
[11:10] <ikonia> hischild get your bind working first
[11:10] <hischild> ikonia, how to check fast if its working?\
[11:10] <ikonia> hischild run a query
[11:10] <jscinoz> Acedip, makes no difference
[11:10] <Saga_> Damn -- I only like the color theme from Chatzilla (Dark Serif).  :<
[11:10] <jscinoz> same error on line 25
[11:11] <rblst> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> rblst: np bro
[11:12] <hischild> ikonia, net getlocalsid would do? It's still giving me errors.
[11:12] <Ast001> Hi I want to change background colour in terminal. When I am root and file has 777 permissions it is on green background and black font and noone can see name of file !
[11:12] <ikonia> hischild what guide are you following ?
[11:12] <jscinoz> ActionParsnip, sorrytab completion went to wrong person, pressing enter on the end of that line and saving has no effect, still says "error on line 25"
[11:12] <Ast001> can you tell me how to do it ?
[11:12] <hischild> ikonia, http://www.howtoforge.com/openldap-samba-domain-controller-ubuntu7.10 <--
[11:13] <ikonia> hischild thats an old guide
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> jscinoz: if you comment that line out, is it ok?
[11:13] <tiyowan> Now this is a rather daft question.
[11:13] <hischild> ikonia, you happen to have a link to a newer/better one?
[11:13] <Aberration> Hey hey
[11:13] <jscinoz> ActionParsnip, no, because it then complains that it wanted COMMIT on that line, which is the only thing on it
[11:13] <ikonia> hischild sorry no
[11:13] <tiyowan> But could someone point out the path of the inittab file to me in Ubuntu?
[11:13] <ikonia> hischild it references things like webmin for the pam install that no longer exist
[11:14] <Saga-on-Pidgin> Lol.  I think I like Pidgin better for IRC.  The color scheme is comfortable here.
[11:14] <Finnish> Anyone success with Skype, bluetooth audio and Intrepid?
[11:14] <hischild> ikonia, i'm not using webmin at all and i'm aware of some other small flaws in it, but the general idea should still work right? I'm attempting to set up a PDC on a pc here.
[11:14] <ikonia> hischild by the looks of it though the webmin package puts your pam bind
[11:14] <Neodemi> Ast001, if your in a terminal window, try edit>current profile, and have a lok at the colours tab
[11:14] <Aberration> Do you have some news about the realtime kernel? Will it work someday?
[11:15] <rww> !inittab | tiyowan: I think this means that Ubuntu doesn't use inittab
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> jscinoz: http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/iptables-restore-barfs-COMMIT-ftopict282705.html
[11:15] <tiyowan> rww: Ah brilliant. Thank you. :-)
[11:15] <hischild> ikonia, right, so that means that i'll either have to install webmin (which i dont want to) or find another way to fix the bind. I'll come back to it in a bit, i've got lunch now. Thanks for the help!~
[11:16] <jscinoz> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:17] <manish> PLease help me share a folder on the network. and How do i do it... I have tried installing samba but i think there is some problem with the permissions ... i tried logging using root but the screen says administrator login is not permitted using this screen... Please help
[11:18] <Ast001> yes now its better when i change to black background and white font but problem is only with files with 777 permissions who has annoying green background and black font
[11:19] <Ast001> with directories to be more precise
[11:20] <manish> somebody in the room free to help me please.... How do i share a folder on the network
[11:20] <Ast001> green background and blue font what a combination
[11:20] <rww> Ast001: those colors are set by the LS_COLORS environment variable. See "man dircolors"
[11:20] <Ast001> thanks
[11:21] <rww> Ast001: unfortunately, I don't see an easy way to change them, but perhaps some time with your favorite search engine will figure that out...
[11:21] <peabody> how do I invoke a script on shutdown so I can clean exit a script I'm running?
[11:23] <rww> Anyone happen to know how I can get pidgin to stop telling me every time FloodBot decides to mess with the channel mode?
[11:23] <paul68> rww: parently you have a more advanced pidgin I use over here ;-)
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> peabody: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844226
[11:24] <Saga-on-Pidgin> rww:  Ignore?
[11:25] <tiyowan> rww: Ignore the FloodBot?
[11:25] <AusLoki> why does ubuntu let you format the root partition why it is mounted? should there or should there not be protection against this?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> AusLoki: it wont unless you use sudo, root can do ANYTHING
[11:28] <sunny123> всем привет ;)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> !ru | sunny123
[11:28] <slavikE90> Sunny, privet
[11:28] <paul68> how do I find out what drivers my onboard webcam uses?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> paul68: lshw
[11:29] <Saga-on-Pidgin> Is this right?  My /boot only size 25MB?
[11:29] <slavikE90> Lshw is an awesome thing
[11:29] <slavikE90> Saga, boot doesn't need to be big
[11:29] <slavikE90> But 25mb is kind of small
[11:29] <ayman> hello  any body  here can help my  with  v4l  issue
[11:29] <ayman> ??
[11:30] <Saga-on-Pidgin> slavikE90: I mean its current size is 25MB.... When Automatic Ubuntu Installer set it for 250MB.
[11:30] <slavikE90> !ask | ayman
[11:30] <gaelfx> is anyone else getting flooded with mode messages?
[11:30] <slavikE90> Saga, it's fine
[11:30] <slavikE90> Saga, /boot is for grub and kernels
[11:30] <rww> gaelfx: FloodBot is being its usual weird self, and ikonia is cleaning the ban list
[11:30] <AusLoki> ActionParsnip: I mean most unixes have protection against this, why not Ubuntu
[11:31] <ayman>  iam  geting  my  cam  working   with skype and  any   software   expect   kopeto
[11:31] <gaelfx> rww: kk, thanks, was worried I messed something up in my settings
[11:31] <slavikE90> Aus, protection against what?
[11:31] <rrogerio> ola pessoal eu sou novo neste canal quero entrar num canal portugues
[11:32] <gaelfx> so I'm having a problem with SCIM on an AMD64 install, the problem being that when I use a 32-bit forced-arch program, I can't switch to a different language input, any ideas how to get it working?
[11:32] <rww> !pt | rrogerio
[11:32] <peabody> I'm trying to get a script to execute when my system reboots, and I found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/scripts-under-rc0.d-and-rc6.d-do-not-seem-to-run-during-shutdown.reboot-439249/ however it only seems to kill the started process and I want a script to run so I can cleanup some stuff on the disk before exit. Can anyone help me with that? Running a script when I enter runlevel 0 or 6?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> AusLoki: it does, youo cant do it as user but can do it as sudo just like any other distro
[11:32] <paul68> that's what I thought to however I can't find it in lshw
[11:32] <ayman> kopeto  cant  recognize  the  cam
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> paul68: man lshw
[11:33] <ikonia> !give a test
[11:33] <AusLoki> ActionParsnip: most other unixes will prevent you from formatting the root partion while mounted, even as root
[11:33] <AusLoki> the only linux to do this is RHEL
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> AusLoki: then submit a feature request
[11:34] <Acedip> jscinoz: what ???
[11:34] <poncha|work> where can i find in 8.10 what the current display driver used by xorg is ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> AusLoki: theres always way to beak stuff in ways like that
[11:34] <ayman> any  body  can  help  my  with  v4l   iam  wann  use  the  old  v4l  but  ubuntu  8.10   working  with  v4l2
[11:35] <poncha|work> xorg.conf doesnt contain that. only says "Indentifier "Configured Video Device""
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: lshw -C display
[11:36] <gaelfx> is there anyway to give a command in terminal when opening a program to make it use a certain input method by default?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: needs sudo. takes a while to run
[11:36] <poncha|work> ActionParsnip: that looks like parsed output of lspci. how is this related to xorg ?
[11:37] <jscinoz> Acedip, wrong person sorry, tabcompletion got you before ActionParsnip
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: look at the last line ;)
[11:37] <poncha|work> i want to know if it uses xserver-xorg-intel or other etc
[11:37] <Saga_> Anybody experienced with LVM should answer this question -- I'm trying to set up two encrypted LVM partitions, one for system, one for data personal, on same hard drive.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: hres mine: configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 module=nvidia
[11:37] <kristian1> i can alt+p all the way back to when i joined this channel, how long does irssi keep the "log". (i'm not logging, it's just there until i shut irssi down) 1 day? x amount of lines?
[11:37] <poncha|work> ActionParsnip: mine: configuration: latency=0
[11:37] <Saga_> Should they be on same LV?
[11:38] <Saga_> jtaji, You there?
[11:38] <ayman> any  body  can  help  my  with  v4l   iam  wann  use  the  old  v4l  but  ubuntu  8.10   working  with  v4l2
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: can you pastebin xorg.conf please
[11:38] <poncha|work> and btw how do i switch the drivers (for that matter) ? from gui i only see an option to change resolution but not the driver in use
[11:39] <slavikE90> Tunnel comming, see you all
[11:39] <manish> ActionParsnip. I have lost my sleep and hybernate button. please help me restore it as i am unable to use it on my laptop
[11:40] <poncha|work> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d1c9bf109
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: looks like vesa to me from that, you'll need to add something like Driver "intel"
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> then some options
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: if you run lspci | grep -i vga you can websearch from there
[11:43] <pixelated> looking at all these xorg issues reminds me i should fix my xorg.conf one of thses days...
[11:43] <paul68> ActionParsnip: so in the lshw it should be under multimedia however I can't find it there, it just mentiones the audio device and nothing else. The weird thing is that the status light of my cam is flashing on of at startup and that's it any thoughts? I work with an acer laptop
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> paul68: does it show up in lspci / lsusb
[11:45] <poncha|work> ActionParsnip: i see... is there any gui for that or just adding Driver "intel" by hand should be enough ?
[11:45] <pixelated> poncha|work, what chipset do you have?
[11:45] <kristof> When playing an openoffice presentation with background music, the music often stops to play for about a second and then continues for a second, then stops again,...  Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?
[11:46] <freakabcd> hi all
[11:46] <kristof> hi
[11:46] <EEEuser> hello
[11:46] <freakabcd> somebody please help me. my colours are messed up
[11:46] <freakabcd> no matter which theme i choose
[11:46] <freakabcd> theres something weird that has happened to my Xorg
[11:46] <poncha|work> pixelated: intel onboard - lspci says 82852/855gm
[11:47] <freakabcd> lemme post a screenshot
[11:47] <paul68> ActionParsnip: not that I can see but I might overlooking it this is the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/85540/
[11:47] <poncha|work> its a laptop board (ibm r50e)
[11:47] <gabbler> hi has anyone had any experiences with iptables and network manager
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> poncha|work: you'll need resolutions and refresh rates. Id look at some sample xorg.cponfs for your gfx card
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> paul68: is it in lsusb?
[11:48] <poncha|work> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[11:48] <EEEuser> anyone know how to make the menus in netbook remix more opaque?
[11:49] <pixelated> poncha|work, the driver you need is 'i810' IIRC
[11:49] <paul68> ActionParsnip: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc. OrbiCam
[11:50] <mchelen> i have an old USB webcam which is detected by firefox/flash, is there any way to check if it is working?
[11:50] <mchelen> *is NOT detected
[11:51] <manish> how do i get my sleep and hybernate button back
[11:51] <schone1> hi all
[11:51] <manish> they are no more accessible or
[11:52] <schone1> is there a way through terminal (as im using server edition) to give access to a folder and its sub directories and files for a certain user?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> paul68: ok now you have an ID for the cam, go search it out
[11:52] <pixelated> poncha|work, i msg you a link that may be helpful
[11:53] <poncha|work> pixelated: thanks
[11:53] <pixelated> np
[11:53] <rage> Does anyone know of a command that can turn the monitor off / powersaving mode? Something I can include in a shell script?
[11:53] <Acedip> do we have VPN ??
[11:53] <zamba> i'm running quite a few debian/ubuntu servers.. what's the best way of centrally managing these? i'm thinking in the lines of doing aptitude dist-upgrade now and then
[11:55] <simplexio> rage: xset force dpms off
[11:55] <pixelated> rage 'man xset' specifically -dpms force off' IIRC
[11:55] <abli> zamba, well, there is clusterssh and similar 'run same command on lots of machines'.
[11:56] <mchelen> how can i tell if my an old USB webcam will work in ubuntu?
[11:56] <rage> Sorry, pixellated and simplexio, I wasnt clear, a command that induce the monitor to start power saving immediately
[11:56] <pixelated> rage, it does
[11:56] <rage> Oh
[11:56] <abli> zamba, centralized configuration-management like puppet or http://debathena.mit.edu/config-packages/  might also be usefull
[11:57] <pixelated> rage 'xset dpms force off' does it once return is hit
[11:57] <pixelated> rage, mouse movement or kb activity turn it back on tho
[11:57] <zamba> abli: but what about the output from these commands? and i also need some kind of password prompting stuff?
[11:57] <zamba> abli: i'll check puppet
[11:57] <rage> thats what I'm after
[12:00] <Acedip> how to watch hulu videos outside US
[12:02] <zamba> abli: what about something to get notified everytime a new package is ready? apt-listchanges?
[12:03] <rage> many thanks pixelated and simplexio, integrated and working wonderfully :-)
[12:05] <robinpahwa> Please help me in reconfiguring my gdm
[12:07] <mossmon> help
[12:08] <mossmon> join ubuntu suomi
[12:08] <mossmon> öö
[12:08] <mchelen> robinpahwa> i do not see a login screen   XDMCP starts beforehand   hit cancel CLI comes for 5 seconds and then again the same screen <--- anyone have any ideas?
[12:09] <Starcraftmazter> hey guys, if my (new) laptop battery design capacity is 6000mah, and its last full capacity is 4192mah, should i be worried ?
[12:09] <mossmon> no
[12:09] <mossmon> it is bug i think
[12:09] <Starcraftmazter> oh, is there a more accurate way to check this?
[12:10] <moijk> I used to listen to podcasts / video podcasts in itunes. But what are the best ubuntu(gnome) ways to subscribe/listen/view such?
[12:10] <mchelen> Starcraftmazter, thats fine mah is a measure of storage capacity
[12:10] <mossmon> i think it is kaffeine
[12:11] <mchelen> Starcraftmazter, just check the voltage and amperage are the same, and it should be fine
[12:11] <moijk> mossmon: that's an kde app, isn't it?
[12:11] <mossmon> i have a broblem with my resolution. can someone help me
[12:11] <Starcraftmazter> ok thanks
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> moijk you can use gnome or kde apps, many of us do
[12:12] <nnull> anyone know how id get a usb logitech gamepad working for ubuntu?
[12:12] <nnull> !gamepad
[12:12] <mossmon> can someone help me with my resolution?
[12:12] <natschil> hello, I have noticed that ubuntu takes quite a long time to load on my computer. Im wondering whether it is possible to run all bootup processes in paralell like it is in gentoo. Setting CONCURRENCY to "shell" in /etc/rc.conf doesn't seem to really help
[12:13] <Mud|afk> Jimi__Hendrix: youre dead! leave earth now :+ !
[12:13] <Jimi__Hendrix> no im not...
[12:13] <Jimi__Hendrix> im in cuba with tupac
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nnull Have you checked the supported hardware page to see if it is supported or if someone else has got it towork
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[12:13] <moijk> Jack_Sparrow: speaking gnome and kde.. is there any webkit-gnome browsers? (or khtml, like konq)
[12:14] <mossmon> can someone help me with my resolution.. its only 640x460... small
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> moijk no idea, never used one
[12:15] <natschil> mossmon: what graphics card do you have?
[12:15] <mossmon> nvidia something
[12:16] <mossmon> nvidia nv11
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> mossmon Start with a well formed question which supplies the facts needed to help you.  Including such things as what video card chipset, what monitor, what version or release of Ubuntu you have installed and whatt all you have alread done to tr and get it working
[12:16] <mchelen> !nvidia | mossmon
[12:16] <Guest15137> hello someone use deftlinux ? please ?
[12:17] <mchelen> mossmon, basically just enable proprietary drivers then enable it for your card
[12:17] <Guest15137> it s a live usb based on ubuntu
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest15137 Not in here thanks, we only support OUR release not all of the spinoffs
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint
[12:18] <ackbahr> Hi guys! I just downloaded Brother printer drivers that come in a deb install file, and when I try to install it is says "wrong architecture" (I've got an AMD64). What can I do to bypass this?
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > ackbahr
[12:19] <ackbahr> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Guest17895 FYI: being logged in as root and surfing the web is a very ver bad idea
[12:19] <wjz> hao
[12:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[12:19] <wjz> hi
[12:19] <robinpahwa> I have accidentally enabled XDMCP on my machine due to which my GDM does not display a login window, instead a screen displaying that no host is found is displayed and tells me that it hasn't found any host so it could not have a remote connection, Whn i hit cancel i reach CLI for 5 seconds and then back the same screen ,---- > Anyone have ny idea how can i revert back my XDMCP
[12:20] <wjz> good night
[12:20] <frank_lin> hello
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: I gave up on that train, if people want to cripple their security, let them
[12:20] <wjz> hello
[12:20] <ackbahr> Jack_Sparrow: But then, will it be installed in the "normal" environment?
[12:20] <core5> alo
[12:20] <maek0> Jack_Sparrow, wtf are you talking about ??
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip We still need to tr and educate them
[12:21] <Acedip> i cant play .rmvg files, when searching codes, it says the codecs for the format are not available
[12:21] <bluej> any urxvt users here?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: ive been doing it since gutsy. ive lost inclination. I try but they keep insisting
[12:22] <Yossarianus> hello everyone
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: even though it ains you nothing at all
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> hi Yossarianus
[12:24] <Yossarianus> i have a problem with my aer 3680 laptop running intrepid 8.10. sometimes, when i shut down the computer, it won't shut off. ubuntu shuts down, the screen goes blank(note blank, not completely black but suspended), commands are inoperational(ctrl+alt+any f key, ctr+alt+del, etc) and the only way to shut it down is with the power button. once this starts happening the only way to make it shut down again properly is removing the battery
[12:24] <Yossarianus> but then it starts to happen again after a few shutdowns
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Yossarianus: are you fully updated?
[12:25] <Yossarianus> yup, fully
[12:25] <rage> Odd
[12:25] <rage> I have an Acer 3680 here
[12:25] <Yossarianus> quite
[12:26] <rage> Nothing quite like that
[12:26] <Yossarianus> and this is quite unnerving, let me tell you
[12:26] <Yossarianus> just when i'd like to put my laptop away, it won't shut off
[12:26] <axyjo> hi all, i have an ubuntu server installation that i want to convert to a production server (point it to a domain). i've got the dns side of it done, but what do i need to do on the machine? when i installed it, i specified a local hostname
[12:26] <Acedip> i have just installed ubuntu 8.04.1 over windows and i cant see some of the windows partitions been mounted on ??????
[12:27] <fosco_> Acedip: yes, you can
[12:27] <Yossarianus> so any ideas here?
[12:27] <Yossarianus> :(
[12:27] <nicois> can anyone help me? Got a Benq Joybook S42 here, and it hangs when I try to install the 32bit intrepid, no matter what book options I tried. Tried acpi=off, noapic and nolapic. Are there any other options that could help? I just get a couple of lines of text before it freezes and needs a cold boot.. :-(
[12:27] <Acedip> fosco_: how do i do that?
[12:27] <Pretto> is there a channel  for landscape support?
[12:27] <fosco_> Acedip: try Places menu
[12:28] <Acedip> fosco_: they are not listed in there, the side pane of nautilus
[12:28] <fosco_> not only nautilus but panel menus
[12:28] <zhjawe> Acedip: Hi,mybe you can try ntfs-config,install it from teminal.
[12:29] <zhjawe> maybe you can try ntfs-config,install it from teminal.
[12:29] <Jack_Sparrow> nicois HAve ou removed quiet and splash from the command line to tr and see what is hanging it up
[12:30] <nicois> Jack_Sparrow: thanks for the suggestio, i'll give it a go. I tried selecting expert-mode from the F6 menu, but it didn't seem to help me identify the problem.
[12:30] <flying_ych> what the 'nohz=off' means?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Yossarianus: you could try disabling acpi in bootoptions
[12:32] <Saga_> Is there a link that display which Ubuntu usually use for file system?
[12:32] <Saga_> All uses ext3?
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> nicois do that again, but also remove quiet and splash, I have many other mods ou can add and try, sort of hit or miss if you cant see the error after quiet  is removed
[12:33] <facundobatista> Hi all
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: you can use a vast multitude
[12:33] <flying_ych> Hi,everybody! who can tell me what the 'nohz=off' means?
[12:33] <Kingsy101> has anyone in here had experience with eeebuntu?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: ext3 is default
[12:33] <Saga_> ext3 is default for all?
[12:33] <Saga_> @ ActionParsnip
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: not necesarily
[12:34] <facundobatista> question: the clock I put in my panel bar crashes when I try to change the hour... does anybody know how can I execute it from command line for further debugging?
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> facundobatista What clock did you install?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> flying_ych: it disables dynamic ticks in the kernel.
[12:35] <Saga_> ActionParsnip, Nevermind -- "Ext3 is usually the default, but using Ext3 requires that an LV be un-mounted before it can be resized. Reiserfs and XFS makes no such requirement."
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: theirs JFS too
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> flying_ych: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=939817
[12:36] <Saga_> Yup, JFS is on the list.  I have no idea which best journaling file system is.
[12:37] <nnull> guys im trying to configure a wireless USB gamepad, ive found it in lsmod, but when i type sudo modprobe joydev nothing happens?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> nnull: what make / model is it?
[12:37] <hischild> I'm looking for a guide to help me setup a Domain Controller with Ubuntu, or someone would have to give me a guide.
[12:37] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ Logitech Rumble Pad 2
[12:37] <robinpahwa> ﻿I have accidentally enabled XDMCP on my machine due to which my GDM does not display a login window, instead a screen displaying that no host is found is displayed and tells me that it hasn't found any host so it could not have a remote connection, Whn i hit cancel i reach CLI for 5 seconds and then back the same screen ,---- > Anyone have ny idea how can i revert back my XDMCP
[12:38] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ i can see Joydev in lsmod also.. but nothing happens when i modprobe it
[12:38] <peleg> I am having a very serious issue, suddenly -- every video I watch now, whether it is .mov or .avi is really dark, and of negative colours. It started only a few minutes ago, after a restart, and ever since -- new restarts don't fix this problem.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> nnull: what make / model is the pad?
[12:39] <jim_p> peleg, what media player and what video output? and what vga are you on?
[12:39] <peleg> jim_p, ANY media player I am using displays it like that (mplayer, totem, vlc). what do you mean by "what video output" or "what vga"?
[12:40] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ Logitech Rumble Pad 2
[12:40] <mchelen> how do you change default session from CLI?
[12:40] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/gamepads/devices/287&cl=us,en
[12:41] <jim_p> peleg, media players have a video output. xv is by default. its location in the options depends on the player. vga is the graphics card you have
[12:41] <mchelen> robinpahwa, there is some way to change default session from CLI im sure
[12:41] <said026> hi all
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> nnull: http://www.nabble.com/Logitech-Rumblepad-2-gamepad-function-td11243229.html
[12:41] <said026> sava
[12:41] <peleg> jim_p, but how can I check that, in order to answer you? And -- why would it change -- here is, I only restarted my computer
[12:42] <tomyu> hi is there any command line to split a big file into 2 pieces
[12:42] <enzotib> tomyu, split
[12:42] <robinpahwa> mchelen: i can kill gdm from CLI and start a new session using startx
[12:42] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ yer nothing there i havent already seen :s
[12:42] <jim_p> peleg, well you can look at the media players options for the video output. and i also need the graphics card too. to find it             lspci | grep VGA
[12:43] <Yossarianus> if i disable acpi i won't be able to use battery support and whatnot
[12:43] <tomyu> i have a file which is 2gb mpeg how can i split it
[12:43] <Yossarianus> i need to figure out why it won't shut down from time to time
[12:43] <jim_p> tomyu, in 2 mpegs?
[12:43] <tomyu> yes
[12:43] <Yossarianus> is there any application that can keep the system from shutting down?
[12:43] <robinpahwa> butg still when i try to reconfigure my gdm using gdmsetup it says i m not using gdm
[12:43] <coolguy4>  anyone know a good tool for calculating partition sizes? I am using gparted and I want the first two partitions to be equal quarters of the disk (adding up to one half), but if I divide the disk size by 4, and give the first two partitions the same size, gparted adjusts them (presumably to fit into cyllinder widths) and one is bigger than the other
[12:43] <peleg> jim_p, thanks for your help. First answer (out of two): 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Yossarianus: gimme a sec
[12:44] <xukun> I have a video card in my system and its 76 degrees. How hot can it take?
[12:44] <Jack_Sparrow> coolguy4 dont try to force exactly equal partitions, they should break on a boundary..
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Yossarianus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-189312.html
[12:44] <mchelen> robinpahwa, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[12:44] <tomyu> hello anyone who can help me
[12:44] <robinpahwa> Is there any way i can kill all X sessions???
[12:44] <mchelen> !ask | tomyu
[12:45] <coolguy4> jack: but I could make the first two partitions equal if there were on the same number of boundaries, right?
[12:45] <hischild> I'm looking for a guide to help me setup a Domain Controller with Ubuntu, or someone would have to give me a hand in doing it.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Yossarianus: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/my-ubuntu-on-laptop-wont-shutdown-342446/
[12:45] <Jack_Sparrow> coolguy4 I suppose, bt wh is this so critical to you?
[12:45] <robinpahwa> mchelen: yes, and in end it says it needs all x sessions to be closed b4 the effect change place
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !ldap | hischild
[12:45] <facundobatista> does anybody knows where are the applets located in the Ubuntu directory structure?
[12:45] <jim_p> tomyu, you cant do that without recoding the 2 files
[12:45] <mchelen> xukun, 76 is pretty hot, any hotter and you risk damage, it depends on hardware though
[12:45] <coolguy4> jack: if it were critical I probably wouldn't even use ubuntu :)
[12:46] <Jack_Sparrow> coolguy4 ou would have the same problem nder windows..
[12:46] <frank_lin> hello
[12:46] <robinpahwa> mchelen: do you know how can i close all of my Xsessions
[12:47] <nnull> what does it mean that when i lsmod it shows joydev there, but when i sudo modprobe joydev it does nothing?
[12:47] <nnull> just returns to cli
[12:47] <mchelen> robinpahwa, try editing ~/.dmrc to see what the Session is set to
[12:47] <jim_p> tomyu, you can use avidemux to cut the movie in 2, but you need to save each part seperately, thus recoding, thus some quality loss
[12:47] <frank_lin> anyone use Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v6.0
[12:47] <frank_lin> ?
[12:47] <coolguy4> jack_sparrow: I know, I'm joking. I'm using ubuntu because I want to play around and tweak things. i seem to think there should be a way to make the partitions on the same number of sectors, I just need to know how many megs per sector
[12:47] <Jack_Sparrow> coolguy4 Sorry for y and u not showing up most of the time, I jammed my right index finger and still hard to hit those
[12:47] <jim_p> frank_lin, i used it some time ago to run photoshop under linux
[12:47] <hischild> ActionParsnip, thank you, that's just the perfect guide i was looking for.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> nnull: you need to unplug the joystick from pc, sudo rrmod joydev then plug in the adapter
[12:47] <tomyu> so i can not do it from terminal i think there were some tool to install and then to split files from terminal
[12:47] <peleg> jim_p, I couldn't find an answer to the second question, but here's mplayer's output, maybe it helps: http://paste.freeallweb.org/90
[12:47] <frank_lin> Can i use Codeweavers.CrossOver.Office.Professional.v6.0 in Ubuntu810?
[12:47] <mchelen> robinpahwa, you could also try the recovery console boot option, hit esc at the grub boot loading screen
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> coolguy4 try it with a partition other than the first one
[12:48] <robinpahwa> mchelen: [Desktop]
[12:48] <robinpahwa> Session=default
[12:48] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ ok
[12:49] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ rrmod no such command found
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> peleg: sudo apt-get install gmplayer; gmplayer &
[12:49] <frank_lin> oh,thk u ,jim_p!
[12:49] <peleg> ActionParsnip, why do you want me to install gmplayer?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> peleg: ive not seen mplayer --gui
[12:50] <jim_p> peleg, are you good enough with the terminal so as to start a movie with mplayer from it?
[12:50] <peleg> ActionParsnip, well, mplayer -gui works well enough
[12:50] <robinpahwa> mchelen: I have already tried recovery console
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> nnull not rrmod
[12:50] <nnull> Jack_Sparrow¬
[12:50] <nnull> ?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> nnull: rmmod
[12:51] <nnull> kk
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> like rm mod
[12:51] <xukun> mchelen, my system is using guad core Q6700 and the video is nvidia 9600 GT with passive cooling
[12:51] <peleg> jim_p, yes, I am "good enough" with the terminal. Actually, it's Gnome that I am not "good enough" with (hence I try to use as many command-line programs as possible, instead of gui ones)
[12:51] <mchelen> robinpahwa, did you try dpkg-reconfigure gdm from recovery console?
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip good catch on removing the joystick mod btw
[12:51] <erry> Hello
[12:51] <nnull> i executed, but didnt say anything.
[12:51] <erry> Can someone help me with grep -.-'
[12:52] <jim_p> peleg, try this then                  mplayer -vo x11 file.avi
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: i just websearched dude
[12:52] <jim_p> peleg, see how it goes
[12:52] <mchelen> xukun, 75 degrees is the upper limit on my cpu warning alarm, idk how much past that is safe
[12:52] <erry> i need to search for files that contain a sentence but the sentence im searching for isnt the whole thing
[12:52] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ it executed, but didnt say anything... plugged back in... anything else?
[12:52] <Acedip> fosco_: no they are not there
[12:52] <mchelen> xukun, you can keep pushing it and back off if the card acts flaky
[12:53] <jim_p> peleg, and continue with other video output methods ( -vo) like xv, gl and gl2
[12:53] <peleg> jim_p, very good!
[12:53] <erry> Help?
[12:53] <peleg> jim_p, so, something messed with my default vo ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> nnull: try it in something
[12:53] <robinpahwa> mchelen: yes tried that too
[12:53] <jim_p> peleg, it does play with xv normally?
[12:53] <peleg> with x11. didn't try with xv yet. moment
[12:53] <peleg> jim_p, xv is bad
[12:54] <robinpahwa> mchelen: brb
[12:54] <jim_p> peleg, well can you full screen it with x11? F is the shortcut key for it
[12:54] <peleg> jim_p, gl and gl2 are good
[12:55] <jim_p> peleg, does x11 fullscreen properly? i get a strange border when i do it in mine
[12:55] <Acedip> i have just installed ubuntu 8.04.1 over windows and i cant see some of the windows partitions been mounted on ??????
[12:55] <peleg> jim_p, it keeps a black frame around it - it does not enlarge the picture. also, using -gui it did not work
[12:55] <Acedip> they are not listed in the places
[12:55] <jim_p> peleg, best overal use is xv, then x11, then gl and gl2
[12:55] <Acedip> any one to help
[12:55] <jim_p> peleg, go with gl then
[12:55] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ like what? i try it in zsnes nothing happens
[12:56] <peleg> jim_p, wait, but what happened with xv ?
[12:56] <jim_p> Acedip, mount them with fstab properly
[12:56] <mchelen> robinpahwa, set Session=gnome in ~/.dmrc
[12:56] <Acedip> jim_p: how
[12:56] <hischild> tnx
[12:56] <_45h_> hi all. help me to find pidgin plugin "now playing" like http://blindage.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/pidgin.jpg
[12:56] <jim_p> peleg, i think it is some driver parameter for it. only nvidias work perfectly with xv :(
[12:56] <jim_p> Acedip, can i pm you?
[12:56] <Acedip> jim_p: sure
[12:57] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ i got some movement from it lol
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> nnull: sweet
[12:58] <peleg> jim_p, but now when I double click a movie in Gnome, or try -gui in mplayer command line, so I have to use x11 and it is (suddenly!) not wroking
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> nnull: you could try jscalibrate
[12:58] <peleg> I have ubuntu for a year now, and I never had problems with it before
[12:58] <jim_p> peleg, there is somewhere in preferences. look it up
[12:58] <jrib> _45h_: did you try apt-cache search pidgin plug ?
[13:00] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ yea i have it working in jscalibrate but wont work in gsnes :s
[13:00] <_45h_> jrib, i found some plug, but song title writes to status. its bad when people says me "stop status message onanizm"
[13:00] <peleg> jim_p, in the preferneces of what? of mplayer + totem + vlc + ... ?
[13:01] <jrib> _45h_: maybe #pidgin knows more
[13:01] <jim_p> peleg, mplayer at first. find that and make sure it works and you can do the rest later
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> nnull: try configuring controls to it, maybe you need to tell it the controller dvice in /dev/
[13:03] <peleg> jim_p, but do you realise that something is not proper here? One of two things happened here: a. the default preferneces of *all* of my video software had changed, or b. something general has happened. I want to solve the general thing, assuming that this is probably the thing that had happened
[13:03] <nnull> ActionParsnip¬ got the buttons working now, not the directionals
[13:03] <ottoshmidt> how can I make ubuntu forget my password (did it in time settings)?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ottoshmidt: which passwword?
[13:04] <jrib> ottoshmidt: for sudo?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ottoshmidt: and when is it used?
[13:04] <ottoshmidt> yes
[13:04] <jim_p> peleg, the default preferences of all players are xv video output! one bad thing in sv affects all.
[13:04] <jim_p> *in xv
[13:04] <ottoshmidt> when changing time settings
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> jrib: do you know. i dont know
[13:05] <ottoshmidt> "Failed to set the system time"
[13:05] <jrib> ottoshmidt: sudo -K  should work.  Check
[13:05] <ottoshmidt> "/sbin/hwclock returned 256"
[13:05] <peleg> jim_p, ok, so that's what I prefer to solve. xv worked just fine, then, until 1 hour ago. Why should it kill itself just like that, after a restart?
[13:05] <Rocket> any  body  know  who  i can setup  v4l to get  my cam  work  with  kopeto
[13:05] <peleg> actually, now I recall:
[13:05] <jrib> ottoshmidt: do you want to do something more than forget the password?  You're pasting errors now
[13:06] <mchelen> any tips for getting an old usb webcam working?
[13:06] <peleg> it wasn't immediately after the restart. After the restart I have watched 2-3 seconds of a movie, which was *ok*, and then there was a crash (in mplayer), and since then xv is not good
[13:06] <jrib> !webcam | mchelen
[13:06] <ottoshmidt> jrib, these errors are due to my wrong password entry
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> !webcam | mchelen
[13:06] <jim_p> peleg, were the intel drivers updated? or xorg itself?
[13:06] <jrib> ottoshmidt: shouldn't be
[13:06] <recon69> well, think i tracked down one of my kernel crashes, seems flashplayer with streaming video able to crash my system
[13:06] <mchelen> ok thanks
[13:06] <peleg> jim_p, how can I know that? I don't think so, but could it be that it happened without letting me know?
[13:06] <jrib> recon69: change your video driver and see if it still happens
[13:06] <Rocket> ok  iam  use  u
[13:07] <recon69> ﻿jrib: you mean turn off compiz
[13:07] <Rocket>  but   with  last 8.10  its  v4l  replaced  with  v4l2
[13:07] <ottoshmidt> jrib, I made it remember a password forever, and but it didn't change setting anyway
[13:07] <ottoshmidt> so i thought I should have entered a wrong password
[13:07] <jrib> recon69: nope.  I mean try a different video driver
[13:07] <Rocket> and  v4l is  used  in  various  programs
[13:08] <peleg> jim_p, I think I have reinstalled totem before the restart, but I am not sure it was before *that* restart
[13:08] <jrib> ottoshmidt: how did you make it remember a password forever?
[13:08] <jim_p> peleg,  sudo cat /var/log/dpkg.log | tail
[13:08] <Yossarianus> thanks fellas
[13:08] <Yossarianus> :)
[13:08] <Yossarianus> i think it's okay now
[13:08] <peleg> jim_p, nice! here: 2008-12-15 12:15:26 status unpacked totem-gstreamer 2.20.0-0ubuntu3
[13:08] <Yossarianus> if there's anything, i'll come back and bother some more :P
[13:08] <recon69> ﻿jrib: so you mean to remove the nvidia drivers? there is not a big choice of drivers
[13:08] <peleg> so it *was* before that restart
[13:08] <ottoshmidt> jrib, there is a check button in GUI, when entering a password
[13:09] <jim_p> peleg, any other lines?
[13:09] <nicois> Jack_Sparrow: ok, I've started up the installer with the splash and quiet options removed. i get ata1.00 timeouts, and it says failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_masq=0x4)
[13:09] <peleg> jim_p, yes, all related. I'll paste it
[13:09] <jim_p> peleg, pastebin them if possible
[13:09] <jrib> recon69: nope, not remove.  Just use the 'nv' drivers and check if it still crashes for you.  If it doesn't, then you can blame the nvidia drivers for your crashing
[13:09] <peleg> sure!
[13:10] <peleg> jim_p, http://paste.freeallweb.org/91
[13:10] <tomyu> how can i split a big file into 2 small pieces
[13:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nicois try this one..  where you remove quiet  all_generic_ide
[13:10] <peleg> jim_p, or maybe you want a longer tail?
[13:10] <DasEI>  tomyu:command split (see man split)
[13:10] <jim_p> peleg, yes please
[13:11] <peleg> tomyu, you'ver already asked that
[13:11] <tomyu> do i need first to isntall it sudo apt-get install split
[13:11] <tarun> Hi
[13:11] <peleg> tomyu, you need to install any non-installed application that you want to use
[13:11] <jrib> ottoshmidt: ok, one sec
[13:11] <Rocket> any  body  know  who  i can setup  v4l to get  my cam  work  with  kopeto
[13:11] <tomyu> idont understand what you sayin bro
[13:11] <dalfz> I have an intel 82801 (ICH9R chipset) raid controller, that seems undetected by installation cd (only sda & sdb appears). however, the array is functional and ready in the manager. the controller is supposedly supported by the ahci module. any tips for me?
[13:12] <peleg> jim_p, http://paste.freeallweb.org/92 <-- this is the longest relevant tail, I believe
[13:12] <DasEI> !who | tomyuh       , yes
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !raid | dalfz
[13:12] <peleg> the rest is from yesterday
[13:13] <jrib> ottoshmidt: you can use polkit-gnome-authorization
[13:13] <ottoshmidt> jrib, I'll try
[13:13] <tarun_> can anyone help me to install openoffice 3.0
[13:13] <nicois> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i tried your option, with noacpi and noapic and nolapic but it gives the same errors.
[13:13] <tarun_> can anyone help me to install openoffice 3.0
[13:13] <tarun_> can anyone help me to install openoffice 3.0
[13:13] <FloodBot1> tarun_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:13] <DasEI> (ibex) why do my folders don't show up on my desktop no more ? they are still in ~/Desktop
[13:13] <tarun_> can anyone help me to install openoffice 3.0
[13:13] <jim_p> peleg, give me a sec.
[13:14] <jrib> DasEI: do you have any icons on your desktop?
[13:14] <DasEI> jrib: yes, ff  f.e.
[13:14] <peleg> jim_p, I am not in a hurry, take your time. thanks for your help!
[13:14] <tomyu> how can i split a big file into 2 small pieces
[13:14] <Starcraftmazter> can someone suggest an application which allows the taking of photos using a webcam?
[13:14] <dalfz> ActionParsnip thanks, reading
[13:14] <Jack_Sparrow> nicois You can look to see if someone has got your hardware to work..  I will pastebin my list of command modifiers if you want..
[13:14] <zaggynl> Starcraftmazter: motion
[13:14] <Starcraftmazter> thanks zaggynl
[13:14] <zaggynl> do a apt-get search webcam
[13:14] <DasEI> jrib:but no files or folders
[13:14] <zaggynl> or whatever the syntax is
[13:15] <peleg> tomyu, are you serious? This is the third time I've noticed you asked that. Did you try split? What couldn't you do properly? Ask specific questions about it
[13:15] <THCB_> tarun_: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[13:15] <jrib> DasEI: output of: gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop; grep -i desktop_dir ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[13:15] <tomyu> how does split work
[13:15] <tomyu> i dont want to damage my files
[13:15] <peleg> tomyu, did you try man split?
[13:16] <DasEI>  tomyu:sudo apt-get install split
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> !info split
[13:16] <DasEI>  tomyu:after that, man split
[13:16] <jrib> split is a default command in coreutils
[13:16] <tomyu> yes but i dont understand how to split in 2 files
[13:16] <tarun__> hi again ..
[13:16] <DasEI> ActionParsnip: so why is there a man for it ?
[13:16] <tarun__> is any one help me
[13:17] <tarun__> to install openoffice 3.0
[13:17] <jrib> DasEI: split is a default command in the 'coreutils' not in the 'split' package
[13:17] <THCB_> tarun__: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[13:17] <peleg> tomyu, calculate: How many bytes do you have in the original file, and choose half of that for the size of each part
[13:17] <DasEI>  tomyu:running hardy or ibex ?
[13:17] <peleg> tomyu, see this line in the manual:  -b, --bytes=SIZE \\ put SIZE bytes per output file
[13:17] <mchelen> what can be done if my webcam does not show up anywhere in /dev/video ?
[13:17] <tomyu> sudo apt-get install split there is no such package
[13:17] <Mal3ko> how do we check how long a process has been running?
[13:18] <jrib> tomyu: you already have split
[13:18] <Irreducibilis|zz> Aw. I missed the landmark of 1337 people
[13:18] <tomyu> DasEI says install it
[13:18] <DasEI> tomyu : if you get man split, it's there lready (coreutils, as jrib said)
[13:18] <tomyu> yes its there man split
[13:18] <jim_p> peleg, sudo cat /var/log/apt/term.log | tail                this tells it in a more apt way, can you please do that too? and add a bigger tail of like 50
[13:19] <DasEI> tomyu :no need to install then
[13:19] <peleg> tomyu, I gave you exact instructions. read and try
[13:19] <peleg> jim_p, sure
[13:19] <jrib> Mal3ko: you could use htop
[13:19] <tomyu> ok i have one file is hello.mpeg its 1.6gb how to split it in two pieces
[13:19] <jrib> Mal3ko: or top of course
[13:20] <Rocket> gspca include v4l2 any body can help to  force  to   use  v4l
[13:20] <Mal3ko> isnt the process time in top how long it's been process by cpu?
[13:21] <Mal3ko> processed*
[13:21] <jrib> Mal3ko: erm, what time do you want then?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> tomyu: avidemux can do it
[13:21] <mchelen> will easycam help if my cam does not show up in /dev/video ?
[13:21] <tomyu> no iam on terminal usin split
[13:21] <Mal3ko> jrib: process uptime..
[13:21] <peleg> jim_p, http://paste.freeallweb.org/93
[13:21] <jrib> Mal3ko: what's the difference...
[13:22] <peleg> tomyu, using split for that won't give you two videos.
[13:22] <tomyu> why
[13:22] <Mal3ko> afaik, process time in top doesnt count when the process is idle
[13:22] <peleg> tomyu, since split splits the code of the movie, not the movie.
[13:22] <Rocket> mchelen give  my  the   output  for lsusb
[13:22] <jrib> Mal3ko: I see.  Check 'man ps', search for "time" I guess
[13:23] <jim_p> peleg, well it seems clean.... unless that package removal made a mess gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[13:23] <tomyu> will i loose movie quaility
[13:23] <peleg> tomyu, you just *won't* have any movie at all
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> tomyu: http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2008/03/splitting-avi-file-into-smaller-parts.html
[13:23] <tomyu> so what to do to split a movie
[13:23] <peleg> jim_p, so, what do you recommend? should I uninstall most of these and reinstall them?
[13:23] <peleg> tomyu, ActionParsnip told you already
[13:24] <jrib> tomyu: you didn't ask how to split a movie and keep the two files separately.  If that is what you want, then ask that as 'split' won't do that.  split just breaks a file up into pieces
[13:24] <jrib> s/files separately/files playable separately
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> tomyu: you may loose some, i'm not sure if mpeg can be done with that command, its worth a try
[13:25] <tomyu> no i have a movie file is large 1.4gb i want to split it so i can have 700mb so i can burn to cd
[13:25] <jim_p> tomyu, i told you that avidemux can do it, but it will need recoding
[13:25] <jrib> tomyu: do you want to be able to play each piece?
[13:25] <mchelen> Rocket, http://pastebin.com/m72dc58c8
[13:25] <tomyu> yes
[13:26] <jim_p> peleg, why uninstall? and what to uninstall? does gstreamer-properties work for you?
[13:26] <jrib> tomyu: the transcode package has the avisplit command
[13:26] <Rocket> mchelen Bus 004 Device 003: ID 2770:905c NHJ, Ltd Che-Ez Snap SNAP-U/Digigr8/Soundstar TDC-35
[13:26] <peleg> jim_p, I thought that if I'll try to revert the changes that I've maid, the "mess" will be reorganised... I'll try gstreamer-properties
[13:27] <mchelen> Rocket, how do i set that up?
[13:27] <nicois> Jack_Sparrow: pci=nomsi seems to be a partal solution. it gets me to a ubuntu@ubuntu prompt before it freezes
[13:27] <Rocket> mchelen that  one   right  ?
[13:27] <jrib> tomyu: is it an avi?
[13:27] <Rocket> wait  i will   give  u   url
[13:27] <tomyu> no its mpeg
[13:27] <mchelen> Rocket, yeah that is my guess
[13:27] <jim_p> peleg, in video tab, what do you get under defautl output?
[13:28] <syberjj> hey guys, doxfer.com is down. can anyone help me set up a DNS server using webmin?
[13:28] <peleg> gstreamer-properties works with some errors. what should I see there?
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin > syberjj
[13:28] <Saga_> People -- Anyone good with LVM?
[13:28] <peleg> oh
[13:28] <Saga_> And cryptsetup?
[13:28] <jrib> tomyu: ok... there's mpgsplit in the mpgtx package then
[13:28] <syberjj> jack_sparrow, how do i check the private message? lol
[13:28] <peleg> jim_p, plugin: autodetect
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !webmin
[13:29] <syberjj> nvm
[13:29] <tomyu> so do i need to isntall that tool mgsplit
[13:29] <jrib> tomyu: if you want to use it, yes
[13:29] <syberjj> ﻿Jack_Sparrow - thx
[13:29] <jim_p> peleg, can you change it to xv or the one below it?
[13:30] <primadeluxe> hello, anyone knows if Ubuntu 8.10 support Brazilian/Portugese language? I have 8.04 here and it has portugese but not brazilian portugese - thanks a lot for anyones help :)
[13:30] <peleg> jim_p, yes. should I do it? and then what?
[13:30] <tomyu> mgsplit no suck pacakge
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> syberjj np
[13:30] <jrib> tomyu: ok... there's mpgsplit in the mpgtx package then
[13:30] <jim_p> peleg, then try totem and vlc again
[13:30] <Rocket> mchelen check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=966932
[13:30] <jrib> !who | tomyu
[13:30] <Saga_> Does anybody know how to use LVM + Cryptsetup?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on LVM but I need to know if I should allocate all free space for LVM or for the system, then allocate the rest to Cryptsetup.
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt
[13:30] <syberjj> ﻿Jack_Sparrow -  why isnt ebox in the repositories? is it not stable enough?
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> primadeluxe That channel may have the tweeks you need
[13:31] <Alti1> hello
[13:31] <Jack_Sparrow> syberjj I have never used it, I just know the webmin will not hold up for you
[13:31] <syberjj> ok thx mate
[13:31] <Alti1> anyone here to help a beginner out?
[13:31] <ranok> !ebox | syberjj
[13:31] <veltsu> I would like to express my gratitude to this channel, to Lasivian, Jack_Sparrow and many others who provided help. I would also like to thank my mother, she's always been there for me. My brother would be angry if I didn't mention him now also, so thanks to him too. Thank you to my girlfriend who kept supporting me through the tough times. Without you I wouldn't have managed. I love you. This is a great moment for me, the wireless card on my laptop is workin
[13:31] <jrib> Alti1: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[13:31] <peleg> jim_p, funny, there's this testing button; when I chose "no xv", the test gives me colours from left (bright) to right (dark), and something moves as well; when I chose the second option (X11/.../xv) the test seems to give me negative colours
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> tomyu: i gave you the link to the command, what more do you need?
[13:32] <Alti1> alright :p
[13:32] <Jack_Sparrow> veltsu You are welcome
[13:32] <jim_p> peleg, lol
[13:32] <Alti1> ﻿i have ubuntu and kubuntu-desktop installed, and i'd like to upgrade both to the newest stable version (with kde 4)
[13:32] <tomyu> i installed mpgtx
[13:32] <Alti1> ﻿installed ubuntu few months ago, so i think the version i have is outdated, but not sure which one i have
[13:32] <peleg> veltsu, I'm happy for you ;-)
[13:32] <tomyu> i will try to split it with mpgtx
[13:32] <jim_p> peleg, i get the same colort
[13:32] <veltsu> now how to get my soundcard working... :)
[13:32] <jrib> !version | Alti1
[13:32] <jrib> Alti1: what version do you have now?
[13:33] <jim_p> veltsu, lspci | grep Audio
[13:33] <peleg> jim_p, so, we didn't solve the problem, but we know exactly what caused it
[13:33] <tomyu>  mpgtx -124 myfile.mpg -b output
[13:33] <tomyu>               will  split myfile.mpg in 124 parts with names output-001.mpg to
[13:33] <tomyu>               output-124.mpg
[13:33] <Alti1> ok
[13:33] <primadeluxe> thanks Jack_Sparrow :)
[13:33] <Alti1> i have ubuntu 8
[13:34] <jim_p> peleg, true :(
[13:34] <Alti1> 8.0.4
[13:34] <ranok> Alti1: **8.04
[13:34] <jrib> !upgrade > Alti1
[13:34] <jrib> !notes > Alti1
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ranok: thats still supported, its hardy
[13:34] <Alti1> a got that, thanks :)
[13:35] <veltsu> jim_p  the output is nothing. I haven't even tried to install the soundcard yet so I'll go through the web looking for some clues on how to do it. I don't want to bother you guys before I've tried myself. Just like with my wireless card that is now working! Yay!
[13:35] <Jack_Sparrow> primadeluxe np
[13:35] <mfoniso> the following keys on my keyboard no longer work after an upgrade from hardy to intrepid: arrow keys, home, end, insert, delete, pageup, pagedown.
[13:35] <mfoniso> any ideas how to go about fixing this?
[13:35] <Saga_> Does anybody know how to use LVM + Cryptsetup?  I'm installing Ubuntu on LVM but I need to know if I should allocate all free space for LVM or for the system only, then allocate the rest for new LVM, Cryptsetup.
[13:35] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to play .avi files with vlc
[13:35] <ranok> ActionParsnip: yes, I was just fixing the version notatio
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Alti1: you can upgrade to intrepid if you want but if hardy works for you you can keep it
[13:35] <jedimind> how would i search for a file that contains a certain string in the file itself ?
[13:35] <jim_p> veltsu, can you pastebin the entire lspci output then?
[13:35] <peleg> so I open the question to everyone: one bright day, my xv got nuts, and since then (1.5 hours ago, including 2 restarts) watching videos using xv is in negative and darker colours. My xv worked just fine until 2 hours ago.
[13:35] <jrib> jedimind: grep
[13:35] <ranok> ActionParsnip: heck, I'm still using gutsy
[13:36] <recon69> Alti1: and if you upgrade to 8.10 don't forget to disable and restricted drivers you have
[13:36] <ainuxs> .net
[13:36] <jedimind> jrib: can you give me a quick example?
[13:36] <Alti1> is interpid a stable version, and does it work with kde 4?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ranok: if it aint broke, dont fix it
[13:36] <DarkKnight> hey i m not able to play .avi files with vlc
[13:36] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: kubuntu 8.10 comes with kde 4
[13:36] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how i need to set up my firewall to forward ports for deluge? im a complete noob.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ranok: my file server uses some dinosaur kernel
[13:36] <Alti1> and does kde4 work with ubuntu 8.0.4?
[13:36] <rookeeeeeeeee> well not complete
[13:36] <peleg> The only thing I've changed is that: I've installed gstream-totem, to try and watch a .m4v file. I don't care about that file now... I just want my xv back. Any ideas?
[13:36] <rookeeeeeeeee> i know my way around the block
[13:36] <veltsu> jim_p here you go: http://pastebin.com/m77f39e03
[13:36] <jrib> jedimind: grep -R foo /path   will recursively search for files containing the string "foo" in the path "/path"
[13:36] <ranok> ActionParsnip: yeah, every version gets slower and slower
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: i know but i think you should tell Alti1
[13:37] <jedimind> jrib: thanks a bunch
[13:37] <ikonia> ActionParsnip duh. thank you
[13:37] <Saga_> What's the command to find out the driver your keyboard is using?
[13:37] <ikonia> Alti1: kubuntu 8.10 comes with kde 4
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> ranok: no, its just it runs samba and ssh server so theres no need to touch it
[13:37] <jim_p> veltsu, did you type Audio and not audio before? because you have   00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[13:37] <jrib> Saga_: I don't know but one way would be to read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:37] <Rocket> egrep  better
[13:37] <jim_p> veltsu, that has the typical hda chipset
[13:37] <ranok> ActionParsnip: yeah, mine just runs apache, ssh and tremulous
[13:37] <Alti1> and should i upgrade ubuntu to 8.10, or is 8.0.4 better, and am i better off ust upgrading kde?
[13:38] <rookeeeeeeeee> hello?
[13:38] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: we can see you
[13:38] <ikonia> Alti1: really depends on your needs
[13:38] <jrib> Rocket: why?
[13:38] <andymd> Alti1, no need to do that
[13:38] <jim_p> rookeeeeeeeee, install fwbuilder
[13:38] <veltsu> jim_p all lower keys before. Sorry, I have to go but I'll be sure to come back later
[13:38] <Rocket> because  it  support  regx
[13:39] <rookeeeeeeeee> fwbuilder? what does that do?
[13:39] <Saga_> jrib, Thanks -- Do you know LVM + Cryptsetup? <_>
[13:39] <jrib> Rocket: grep supports regex too, just not everything grep with -E supports :)
[13:39] <jim_p> rookeeeeeeeee, and the rest are just gui. its an app that configures the built in linux firewall
[13:39] <peleg> jim_p, hey, watch this:
[13:39] <jpablanche> what software i best for audio burning?
[13:39] <jrib> Saga_: nope
[13:39] <peleg> jim_p, oops, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/32963
[13:39] <Alti1> ﻿andymd, why not?
[13:39] <rookeeeeeeeee> oh ive already got one called "gfuw"
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !best | jpablanche
[13:39] <Rocket> u can  use  it l like  that egrep "tryag|void\.ru|phpremoteview|webadmin|r57shell|mohajer22|SCoOoRPioN|cgitelnet|c99shell|tryag|SnIpEr_SA|sniper_sa|noexecshell|/etc/passwd|revengans|L2V0Yy9wYXNzd2Q|vdGltZSgpLXN0YXJ0dGltZSw0KTsgPz4gXS0tPC9iPjwvcD48L3RkPjwvdHI+PC90YWJsZT4|Y29uZmlnLnBocA" /home/*/public_html -R | cut -d: -f1 | uniq >/root/shellzo.txt
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !burning | jpablanche
[13:40] <jim_p> peleg, thats hilarious!
[13:40] <Rocket> iam  used  thees  text  to  search  for  possible    shells script
[13:40] <peleg> jim_p, indeed. I am still reading
[13:40] <atisz> hi i would like to list the files that were modified since the last boot time, could you help me?
[13:40] <rookeeeeeeeee> but i dont know how to go about fordarwding my ports
[13:40] <TJ-42> According to "Services Settings", two FTP services are activated, proftpd and vsftpd.  but the package manager shows that those services are not installed.  Why would this be?
[13:41] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee do you want to forward them at your router or the iptables level ?
[13:41] <recon69> rookeeeeeeeee: do you use a router?
[13:41] <rookeeeeeeeee> both
[13:41] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: you don't do both
[13:41] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: you do one or the other
[13:41] <jrib> Rocket: you should check what grep -l does
[13:41] <rookeeeeeeeee> i use both a router and a software firewall
[13:41] <jim_p> rookeeeeeeeee, well you need to know what ports you must forrward. the rest are here http://portforward.com/
[13:42] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: which do you want to do the forwarding on
[13:42] <Rocket> i konw   the  both is  the  same
[13:42] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: I suggest your router if it has forwarding capabilities
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> rookeeeeeeeee: then you need you manual for your router to forward ports / setup virtual server
[13:42] <rookeeeeeeeee> ikonia i want it on the software firewall
[13:42] <Rocket> jrib but  iam  love  egrep   :P
[13:42] <jrib> Rocket: egrep is the same as grep -E.  -l does something else :)
[13:43] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee: ok, so you need to read up on iptables (I assume thats the software firewall your using) and look at the -j FORWARD option
[13:43] <methaniga1> ﻿rookeeeeeeeee:which software firewall you are using?
[13:43] <wjz_> hello
[13:43] <andymd> Alti1, if you upgrate to 8.10,you mean the kernel,but in fact you need to upgrate a lot of softwares,if you used samba before,you need to upgrate it too,so in my opinion,if you want to use 8.10,just install it,upgrate would be complexed.
[13:43] <rookeeeeeeeee> gfuw
[13:43] <tiyowan> rookeeeeeeeee: man ufw is helpful too.
[13:43] <rookeeeeeeeee> gufw
[13:43] <wjz_> i am fine
[13:43] <tiyowan> rookeeeeeeeee: For GUI administration, try installing the Firestarter package.
[13:44] <rookeeeeeeeee> i have a gui called gufw
[13:44] <ikonia> tiyowan whats wrong with him using gufw ?
[13:44] <Rocket> jrib do  have  idea   who  i can pass  variable  to  awk   like   take  date   and pass  to awk  to use  as  filed separator
[13:44] <Hardhead> Hey everyone.  I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop (Thinkpad R61) and it works great... except the sound!  It's all crackly and horrible sounding, whether I'm using built-in speakers or headphones.  Can anyone give me some tips on fixing this?
[13:44] <tiyowan> rookeeeeeeeee: Oops. :-) Missed that part. Sorry.
[13:44] <Saga_> Does anybody know how to use LVM + Cryptsetup?  I'm installing Ubuntu on LVM but I need to know if I should allocate all free space for LVM or for the system only, then allocate the rest for new LVM, Cryptsetup.
[13:44] <rookeeeeeeeee> ikonia, where can i read about how to forward ports again?
[13:45] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee the internet, netfilter.org is a start
[13:45] <andymd> Hardhead, have you setup the sound??
[13:45] <Alti1> ﻿andymd, ok, how about upgrading kde only, how do i do that?
[13:46] <habibbr> hi, i need to run an script as non root, should i use rcX.d or upstart?? how to do it?
[13:46] <Rocket> jrib:  are  u  steel  alove  man :D
[13:46] <ikonia> habibbr nonroot eh, you could put it in your sessions startup
[13:46] <ikonia> !session
[13:46] <habibbr> ikonia, cool
[13:47] <habibbr> ikonia, is this procedure through X?
[13:47] <Hardhead> andymd, Define "set up the sound."  :)  I went into Preference -> Sound and tried picking some of the options other than autodetect, but I never heard any difference.
[13:47] <ikonia> habibbr: sure
[13:47] <tiyowan> rookeeeeeeeee: http://portforward.com/ could be helpful, too.
[13:47] <habibbr> ikonia: cool, but I'm running ssh in that machine
[13:47] <habibbr> just text acess
[13:48] <rookeeeeeeeee> do they have a linux version of that program at portforward.com?
[13:48] <ikonia> habibbr: what is it you want to start
[13:48] <TJ-42> which log file has all of the early startup messages?
[13:48] <Rocket>  any body   have  idea   who  i can pass  variable  to  awk   like   take  date   and pass  to awk  to use  as  filed separator
[13:48] <andymd> Alti1, you just need to install the new kde desktop,and it'll be ok
[13:48] <i> FUC
[13:48] <ikonia> rookeeeeeeeee it would be a lot easier for you if you did it at the router level
[13:48] <tiyowan> rookeeeeeeeee: Nope. It's more oriented towards setting up different routers to forward ports.
[13:48] <habibbr> ikonia: I wanna umount samba and mount again as normal user, so i can write
[13:48] <ikonia> i: ? what
[13:48] <ikonia> habibbr: why not just put the correct mount options in the fstab ?
[13:49] <i> HE HE HE
[13:49] <habibbr> ikonia: sorry
[13:49] <Hardhead> No matter what options I select, no matter what program i'm using it always sounds incredibly crackly and, basically, horrible.
[13:49] <bazhang> i stop
[13:49] <peleg> jim_p, haha!!! do you know what solved the problem? watching the movie, and *while* the movie is working (but not before), running a command that will modify xv-attributes, and then it changed everything back to normal. It is said there that if I'll run totem again, it will be bad again. I won't run totem, then!!
[13:49] <habibbr> I already try this
[13:49] <andymd> Hardhead, and all the four test are ok?
[13:49] <jrib> i: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[13:49] <i> NICE TO MET YOU
[13:49] <i> ALL
[13:49] <Hardhead> andymd, Yes.
[13:49] <peleg> I'll try to find a way to convert m4v to avi, then
[13:49] <rookeeeeeeeee> i dont want to do it at the router level because i want one computer to be secure and the other to be able to download torrents
[13:49] <jrib> !id | i
[13:49] <methaniga1> I want to use ipmessenger in 8.04 So i installed  xipmsg
[13:49]  * Saga_ want to know if somebody here knows LVM. <_<
[13:49] <Alti1> ﻿andymd, well that's what i did, but i'm not sure i have the newest version, there are a few things missing
[13:49] <methaniga1> but am unable to send messages
[13:49] <jim_p> peleg, i use mplayer and i dont trust any gstreamer frontend like totem and kaffeine
[13:49] <habibbr> ikonia: it is already rw,users , but I cant execute
[13:50] <habibbr> ikonia: maybe should I put rwx ?
[13:50] <methaniga1> so i download gipmsg
[13:50] <peleg> jim_p, yes, I also use only mplayer; but I thought that I'll need this totem (hence I installed it) to watch that m4v...
[13:50] <andymd> Alti1, i think the wiki will help you
[13:50] <jim_p> peleg, my mplayer does play m4v!
[13:50] <Cult_of_Scaro> rookeeeeeeeee, just pf to the machine you want to use torrents on and not the other
[13:50] <peleg> jim_p, really? I'll try that again, then
[13:51] <habibbr> ikonia: i used the graphical interface, and it do like this
[13:51] <rookeeeeeeeee> Cult_of_Scaro, thanks
[13:51] <jim_p> peleg, not any mplayer! THE mplayer... from the medibuntu repo
[13:51] <rookeeeeeeeee> thanks all
[13:51] <EgYPaRaDoX> abang ubutto
[13:51] <rookeeeeeeeee> thanks ikonia
[13:51] <methaniga1>  while i give make command it throws errors like *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[13:51] <andymd> Hardhead, can't you hear the system sounds or the mplayer's sound?
[13:51] <Cult_of_Scaro> np
[13:51] <rookeeeeeeeee> thanks tiyowan
[13:51] <EgYPaRaDoX> abang ubotto
[13:52] <peleg> jim_p, what do you mean? how do I know which mplayer do I have at the moment? I don't think I have medibuntu in my sources list
[13:52] <DGnome> Hi! Is there a way to disable desktop effects for good? I'm installing this box for people who have no clue and if they create more user accounts (which they will) they'll have problems again..
[13:53] <jim_p> peleg, remove the one you have now. put the medibuntu repo in your sources. clean apt cach and it will install mplayer from there
[13:53] <Hardhead> anymd, I can hear the sounds, but the audio is TERRIBLE.  There's a ton of digital crackling and stuttering in it (using speakers, headphones).
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Hardhead: run lspci and it will tell you what soundcad you have, you can websearch from there, you may have to compile drivers
[13:54] <Cult_of_Scaro> DGnome, you could use sabayon
[13:54] <peleg> jim_p, you know what, I am not sure I need it. I am sending this video to my windows-based a-technological family, so I think that re-encoding it as .avi will be the best thing to do anyway...
[13:54] <tiyowan> Hardhead: I don't know much about this, but have you tried killing pulseaudio?
[13:54] <DGnome> Cult_of_Scaro: the distro?
[13:54] <jrib> DGnome: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=670100
[13:55] <Hardhead> I just installed Ubuntu yesterday... how do I kill pluseaudio?
[13:55] <Cult_of_Scaro> DGnome, no, its admin tool for user profiles
[13:55] <jrib> DGnome: read the admin docs at library.gnome.org if you want to avoid using gconf-editor to set default values
[13:55] <jim_p> peleg, or you can give your family a nice mplayer frontend for windows, like gomplayer, and save yourself the time and effort
[13:55] <jrib> Hardhead: why?
[13:56] <Cult_of_Scaro> DGnome, easier than diddling round with /etc/skel etc by hand
[13:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> whats the command to find the local ip of your pc?
[13:56] <Hardhead> tiyowan suggested it.
[13:56] <hateball> rookeeeeeeeee❄ ifconfig
[13:56] <tiyowan> Hardhead: "kill pulseaudio" from a terminal.
[13:56] <rookeeeeeeeee> thanks
[13:56] <andymd> Hardhead, i have't met that problem,so sorry ,i can't help you ,maybe you need to test your hardware,and find the right dirver.
[13:56] <peleg> jim_p, haha! no, it's my extended family. I don't know which laptop they'll bring to the party, and I am not going to check that out... it'll take more time. jim_p: things are even more complicated than that: I live in London, they live in Israel. anyway, trust me -- I believe that re-encoding it will be the best thing to do ;-)
[13:56] <fbond> Hi, do LTS releases get security updates for five years, or just three?
[13:57] <jim_p> peleg, ok
[13:57] <jrib> fbond: 3 on the desktop, 5 on the server
[13:57] <DGnome> Thank you jrib and Cult_of_Scaro :)
[13:57] <jim_p> fbond, 5
[13:57] <jim_p> ooops
[13:57] <Cult_of_Scaro> DGnome, np
[13:57] <fbond> jrib: Okay, so what does "on the server" mean?
[13:57] <fbond> jrib: Only certain packages get updates?
[13:57] <fbond> jrib: How do I know which ones?
[13:57] <Cult_of_Scaro> fbond, server distro
[13:57] <jrib> fbond: I don't know how it's defined
[13:57] <jim_p> fbond, the ubuntu server installation
[13:57] <fosco_> !uuid > fosco_
[13:58] <fbond> jim_p: I can install all of the server packages on a non-server install (and vice-versa).
[13:58] <Hardhead> tiyowan, I got bash: kill: pulseaudio: arguments must be process or job IDs
[13:58] <jim_p> fbond, server installation = minimal command line only installation
[13:58] <Cult_of_Scaro> fbond, so you can, but why would you
[13:58] <habibbr> ikonia: it's not samba is nfs, sorry... but if I put rwx it doesnt mount on startup
[13:59] <Pici> fbond: Don't expect programs with graphical interfaces to receive security updates past 3 years, OpenOffice for example.
[13:59] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Sorry. Try killall pulseaudio. It's just a hunch, mind you, but it might work.
[13:59] <jim_p> fbond, you install what you want from there
[13:59] <bidossessi> read the manual! pulseaudio -k
[14:00] <wjz_> hi
[14:00] <habibbr> all: where should I put an symlink to run an script on init.d at startup?
[14:00] <habibbr> wich rc?
[14:00] <Saga_> Hardhead -- Install HTOP and use it to kill PulseAudio.
[14:00] <bidossessi> onn ubuntu, rc.local
[14:00] <theseinfeld> Hi
[14:01] <Saga_> It's nice nifty tool, In my opinion,
[14:01] <habibbr> thanx
[14:01] <theseinfeld> If you are a member of a loco team, how can you get your IRC cloak?
[14:01] <bidossessi> Hardhead, "pulseaudio -k", and try "man pulseaudio" to see available options
[14:01] <Saga_> Anybody here know LVM?
[14:01] <berilio> i have a problem with cheese, i have an hp pavilion with webcam, and i can chat quite well with skype and can see my image with gstreamer-properties and skype as well... but cant see image on cheese... dont know whats goin on... i have compiz on, i know it might be the problem, but i dont know if theres any solution for that besides turning compiz off...
[14:01] <Pici> theseinfeld: If you are an Ubuntu Member you can join #ubuntu-irc and request one
[14:01] <berilio> any ideas?
[14:02] <Hardhead> tiyowan, That seems to have gotten read of my sound altogether.  :)
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> berilio: i dont think compiz will break that
[14:02]  * theseinfeld thanks Pici
[14:02] <bidossessi> berilio, try gstreamer-properties, and look in "video" to test your webcam
[14:02]  * theseinfeld thanks bazhang
[14:02] <berilio> ActionParsnip, bidossessi i can see my image in gstream-properties, and skype and all, but cheese... thats the issue
[14:03] <bidossessi> Hardhead, "pulseaudio -D" to start it again
[14:03] <Hardhead> W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader.
[14:03] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Hmm...which sound card are you using?
[14:03] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Perhaps I could check out the forums.
[14:04] <tavi_> hy
[14:04] <bidossessi> Hardhead, did you read my post?
[14:04] <tavi_> does someone use xchat?
[14:04] <Hardhead> I think this is my soundcard:  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[14:04] <bidossessi> tavi_, i do, why?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> berilio: you may need to tell cheese what device to use for the cam. I dont use webcams at all so have no first and experience
[14:04] <jim_p> tavi_, me too
[14:04] <tavi_> cause i do not see the names list
[14:04] <berilio> am Ive just tried metacity --replace but it didnt solve it
[14:04] <Hardhead> bidossessi:  I got "W: ltdl-bind-now.c: Failed to find original dlopen loader" when I tried.
[14:04] <tiyowan> tavi: Me, three.
[14:04] <bidossessi> berilio, that's an issue i discovered this morning. check in gstreamer if you have v4l2, not v4l
[14:05] <tavi_> :)
[14:05] <tavi_> well thank you
[14:05] <tavi_> someone know?
[14:05] <berilio> bidossessi, v4l2 i can see video with the test button, just cant see it on cheese
[14:05] <tavi_> how is fix that?
[14:05] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Hmm. Your sound *should* work with that card,
[14:06] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: and how to run it as non root user?
[14:06] <bidossessi> berilio, then check in cheese if it's using the webcam at all
[14:06] <bidossessi> habibbr, use what?
[14:06] <andymd> ActionParsnip, webcams have something to do with flash player,install the lastest one,
[14:06] <berilio> bidossessi, the light of the web cam turns on, but no image
[14:06] <grindhold> hello everyone. i am just updating ubuntu from hardy to indtrepid.. debconf asks me to activate some certificates. what is that good for?
[14:06] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Could you go to System -> Administration -> Sound, and set everything to ALSA?
[14:06] <grindhold> shall i simply activate all?
[14:07] <tavi_> so noone knows?
[14:07] <Hardhead> tiyowan:  Already tried that.  I did some research, and I saw others with the same model of laptop complaining about the same problem but I couldn't find a solution.
[14:07] <jim_p> tavi_, view > user list
[14:07] <tiyowan> Hardhead: What laptop model do you have?
[14:07] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: the script at startup.. how to run it as a non root user?? i trying to use su - user
[14:07] <bidossessi> berilio, i have a dv 6000 and the same issue on ubuntu, but my main distro is opensuse, where it works, albeit with hiccups. not sure why it doesn't in ubuntu
[14:07] <jim_p> tavi_, or ctrl + f7
[14:07] <grindhold> fast fast fast :D someone _must_ know that
[14:08] <Hardhead> Thinkpad R61
[14:08] <habibbr> cheese doent work for me too
[14:08] <tavi_> jim_p has no view
[14:08] <tavi_> where i find this view
[14:08] <tavi_> ?
[14:08] <jim_p> tavi_, ctrl +F7 then
[14:08] <bidossessi> habibbr, if you have a script that needs to run for your user, put it in .bashrc, if you don't need root level
[14:08] <tavi_> well nothing
[14:08] <habibbr> cool
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> grindhold: if its what it takes, do it. have a websearch first. its not something ive heard of
[14:08] <habibbr> thanx bidossesse
[14:08] <jim_p> tavi_, press F9 to show the menu bar
[14:09] <tavi_> nothing happen
[14:09] <tavi_> i said i use xchat !!!!!!!
[14:09] <jim_p> tavi_, what version of xchat are you on?
[14:09] <tiyowan> Hardhead: Have you taken a look at this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=503233&highlight=r61&page=2
[14:09] <tavi_> maibe you refer to another
[14:09] <bastid_raZor> tavi_; ctrl and F9
[14:09] <Pici> !enter | tavi_
[14:10] <tavi_> well that that is ubuntu hardy heron
[14:10] <tavi_> xchat-gnome 0.18
[14:10] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: one more question, it will run the script just if I login?
[14:10] <tavi_> this is what i see at about!
[14:11] <peleg> jim_p, ok mplayer (without medibuntu) *does* play the m4v, but with weird gray embossing in the first few seconds... :(  -- though, I have discovered that vlc plays it right. I can't get ffmpeg to transfer it to avi -- but if I can play it, sure something decodes it, right?
[14:11] <Hardhead> tiyowan, No... I'll try that, thanks.
[14:11] <tavi_> and thank you pici....didn't know ...at all
[14:11] <jim_p> tavi_, that "gnome mod" for xchat does not have a user list! youi need to right click somewhere and it will appear
[14:11] <bidossessi> habibbr, yes, but what script is that you need to run?
[14:12] <tavi_> jim_p i don't know
[14:12] <tavi_> and i have some other problems
[14:12] <jim_p> peleg, what embossing?
[14:12] <bidossessi> tavi xchat != gnome-xchat
[14:12] <tavi_> bidossessi:
[14:12] <tavi_> i din't knew
[14:12] <peleg> jim_p, it just looks gray in the beginning
[14:12] <jim_p> tavi_, well install the normal xchat         sudo apt-get install xchat
[14:12] <peleg> I used the word "embossing" since it resembles the GIMP plugin of embossing
[14:13] <berilio> can some one check this out? its about cheese and webcam http://paste.ubuntu.com/85592/
[14:13] <bidossessi> Hardhead, enlighten me: hat happened with your pulseaudio for you to kill it?
[14:13] <jim_p> peleg, does it appear for long?
[14:13] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: I'm trying to run an render farm, so I need to umount and mount an m/f nfs that don't let me execute, and then run render farm scripts
[14:13] <tavi_> jim_p i installed this from install/unistall section ..... are u saying that at install unistall is stupid?
[14:14] <peleg> jim_p, just a few seconds. though, if I run-forward, than it stays with me, and actually cause some bugs either
[14:14] <tavi_> and jim_p what i do whit this that i'm running now?
[14:14] <jim_p> tavi_, install uninstall is just a fraction of synaptic! open synaptic and see the real deal of package universe!
[14:14] <jim_p> am i poetic or what :P
[14:14] <bidossessi> habibbr, mounting is a root-level action. if you waant to always mount a remote FS, use fstab
[14:14] <jim_p> tavi_, remove the one you are on now
[14:15] <Saga_> Anybody here knows LVM?
[14:15] <jim_p> brb
[14:15] <tavi_> so there i will look for the good and new programs at synaptic not at install uninstall ?
[14:15] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: I'm  using it, but if I put rw"x" it doesn't mount
[14:15] <jim_p> peleg, let me look at my video of the same kind
[14:15] <peleg> ok. I can also publish my own, but it's 43mb :-\
[14:16] <cableroy> Hi, where can get help for my raid5 and mdadm problem? irc..
[14:16] <bidossessi> habibbr, did you read the man for mount, especially the options section?
[14:16] <budz0r> cableroy, whats your question?
[14:17] <habibbr> bidossessi: i already tried to understand, will try again
[14:17] <tavi_> so there i will look for the good and new programs at synaptic not at install uninstall ?
[14:17] <jim_p> tavi_, yes. these are just gnome proposals, synaptic is the real deal
[14:18] <tavi_> ok
[14:18] <bidossessi> habibbr, btw, what rendrering engine are you using?
[14:18] <freakynl> hi, i found some docs on installing ubuntu _to_ an usb stick, but these all use an option in gnome called create a usb startup disk. I want to install server to it, and the server CD has no gnome... anyone have some docs on that?
[14:18] <mark726> hello. Stupid question....I have mistakingly deleted the application on my panel that shows me what apps are open (its on usually on the right on the top panel). Any way to get that back?  thx :)
[14:19] <freakynl> right click on the panel, click add to panel. dunno what it's called, browse the list
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> freakynl application switcher
[14:19] <habibbr> ﻿ bidossessi: I got it, there is no x, but an option exec, that it?
[14:20] <IdleOne> can someone recommend a touch screen monitor ?
[14:20] <freakynl> yea that or window list
[14:20] <berilio> can someone give this guy a hand? pad source:src returned caps which are not a real subset of its template caps
[14:20] <mark726> hi freaky...ya i cant find it on that list. Maybe im looking at the wrong thing
[14:20] <cableroy> budz0r: i had a unexpeded shutdown and a "faulty" disk witch i removed and readded, problem was while it was reconstructing i managed to try to mount a disk, but it was one of the disks for the array, i hit ctrl+c but not the array looks fucked up, and i need and expert to help me out. md0 : active raid5 hdk1[5](S) hde1[0] sda1[6](F) hdi1[2] hdg1[1] hdk1 is NOT a spare, and sda1 is not Faulty, hdk1 was the disk who was "faulty" in the beginni
[14:20] <bidossessi> habibbr, try it out
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> freakynl script iso2usb might be what ou want
[14:21] <freakynl> mark726: should be called window list, or application switcher as stated above, not sure which you're missing
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> freakynl Make an iso on usb bootable http://jak-linux.org/tmp/iso2usb.sh
[14:21] <mib_lgo9mv> Sorry, I can't join #kubuntu.  Is there any way to downgrade to kde 4.1 using kubuntu
[14:21] <mark726> ahhhh...ty freaky..got it :)
[14:21] <bidossessi> habibbr, i would use user_xattr personally, but then again, i use opensuse, not ubuntu
[14:21] <freakynl> Jack_Sparrow: don't think so, that makes my usb stick an installer source, i need the install on the stick. some idiot threw his laptop down the stairs. screen is broken, disk is broken, rest runs fine. so detached the monitor and want to use it as headless server
[14:22] <Cult_of_Scaro> mib_lgo9mv, you can, but its  a right pita, i wouldnt reccomend it
[14:23] <bidossessi> freakynl, look up unetbootin
[14:23] <peleg> jim_p, do you think medibuntu has a different version of ffmpeg as well?
[14:23] <jim_p> peleg, i dont think, it DOES
[14:23] <DasEI> (ibex) why do my folders don't show up on my desktop no more ? they are still in ~/Desktop
[14:24] <peleg> jim_p, I see. maybe I'll give it a try then. how did you say? purge, clean cache, update source list, install ?
[14:24] <andymd> DasEI, restart
[14:24] <erUSUL> DasEI: check ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[14:25] <jim_p> peleg, yes
[14:25] <freakynl> bidossessi: i will thx. pxe boot?
[14:25] <peleg> jim_p, thanks; and what is the url for that repo?
[14:25] <jim_p> !medibuntu
[14:25] <mib_lgo9mv> Actually, plasma won't load
[14:25] <bidossessi> freakynl, no, install on usb media
[14:26] <mib_lgo9mv> tried to reinstall, delete .kde .kderc without success
[14:26] <DasEI> andymd: no solution
[14:26] <DasEI> erUSUL: checking..
[14:27] <freakynl> bidossessi: thx looks nice, 'cept for the windows installer :D
[14:27] <erUSUL> DasEI: is --> XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop" ??
[14:27] <peleg> jim_p, thanks
[14:27] <DatLicht> hi there. I have a problem with apache & php5. My apache2 doesn't recognize php files as scripts and offers them as download. The folks from #php have no idea and advised me to ask here. Any ideas? I already have re-installed  libapache2-mod-php5
[14:28] <erUSUL> !lamp | DatLicht
[14:28] <bidossessi> freakynl, i used that to install ubuntu on my opensuse machine, so don't worry about the winblows stuff
[14:28] <DasEI> erUSUL: my Desktop is /home/<DasEI>/Desktop
[14:30] <Starcraftmazter> how can I find my laptop's bios version under ubuntu?
[14:30] <Paralyzed> Hello, guys i need help witha  booting problem my cd wont boot and ive tried the installation help and it did me no good it wont start up.
[14:30] <DasEI> erUSUL: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop            <<from user-dirs.dirs
[14:31] <erUSUL> DasEI: well everythings seems ok...
[14:31] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, did you check your media for burn errors?
[14:31] <Paralyzed> I have asked for help numerous times and everyone tells me the same thing i dont seem to see what im doing wrong
[14:31] <Paralyzed> Yes, its successfully burned.
[14:31] <veltsu> hmm, I wonder how difficult it might be to install the sound device on my acer. lspci shows the card but when I click on the sound-icon on the toolbar, it just says "no volume control Gstreamer plugins and7or devices found"
[14:31] <SnowAngel> ?
[14:31] <erUSUL> DasEI: check with gconf-editor the settings related to nautilus and desktop
[14:31] <SnowAngel> what?
[14:31] <tavi_> does someone know how i do to update vlc
[14:31] <tavi_> ?
[14:32] <SnowAngel> i don't know
[14:32] <peleg> jim_p, I am following their tutorial, but again and again I am stuck in this phase: " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[14:32] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, have you ran the media test at boot up? is your bios set to boot from CDROM first?
[14:32] <Paralyzed> yes it is
[14:32] <Paralyzed> i changed bios
[14:32] <peleg> the last line, where it is stuck, is "99% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.40)]"
[14:32] <Paralyzed> The only thign i can get at is too the install inside windows screen
[14:32] <Paralyzed> and
[14:32]  * Paralyzed still wants to keep windows
[14:32] <DasEI> tavi_: the vlc from the repo is never the newest, but does well, otherwise you want (little risky) take tarball from vlc-homepage
[14:33] <DatLicht> erUSUL: thanks for the tip. seems that force-reload and restart seem to be something different. but now, it works :o) thanks!
[14:33] <Paralyzed> Im running windows xp manufacturer dell with 25gb of space on harddrive out of 77
[14:33] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, using wubi installer?
[14:33] <erUSUL> DatLicht: no problem
[14:33] <Paralyzed> Im using ubuntu CD
[14:33] <coagen> Starcraftmazter: hey just use dmidecode
[14:33] <Paralyzed> This is what happens. Bidossessi
[14:33] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, obviously, but are you running the install from windwos?
[14:33] <Paralyzed> yes i am
[14:34] <Paralyzed>  im on a windows
[14:34] <Paralyzed> if thats what you mean
[14:34] <coagen> Starcraftmazter: you can try dmidecode | head to just show the first 10 lines, it should show your bios version number there
[14:34] <habibbr> ﻿bidossessi: exec solved
[14:34] <habibbr> thanx man
[14:34] <Paralyzed> I put in the ubuntu disk, restart the comp, then click F12 for boot menu
[14:34] <tavi_> DasEI: well i want a newe vlc
[14:34] <Paralyzed> i choose IDE CD-R DEVICE
[14:34] <cythrawll> you guys configured libapache2-mod-php5 wrong
[14:34] <tavi_> cause that i have have some bugs
[14:34] <Paralyzed> THen it just starts windows as it normally would
[14:34] <cythrawll> should be using AddHandler not AddType
[14:34] <cythrawll> yes AddType works but it's technically wrong
[14:34] <Paralyzed> its too my attention its supposed to displasy logo for install and partition option
[14:34] <Starcraftmazter> thanks coagen, I got it
[14:35] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, look for a windows-based md5sum checker or something and compare your cd with the iso
[14:35] <Starcraftmazter> and damn it's old
[14:35] <Starcraftmazter> :/
[14:35] <Pici> cythrawll: I suggest you file a bug then. http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[14:35] <Paralyzed> I did
[14:35] <bidossessi> habibbr, glad it worked
[14:35] <Paralyzed> everything is good
[14:35] <Paralyzed> the burn is 100 percent good
[14:35] <Pici> !enter
[14:35]  * Paralyzed apollogises its a habbit
[14:35] <bidossessi> Paralyzed, have you defragmented your hdd before running the install?
[14:36] <bidossessi> lord knows where winblows throws its stuff
[14:36] <tavi_> and i do not find bobot
[14:36] <tavi_> i installed him but i don't find him
[14:37] <Hunter> Paralized unbuntu doesnt boot at all?
[14:37] <Hunter> u have nothing?
[14:37] <Pici> tavi_: Can you rephrase your question to the channel, all on one line. Don't use enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <tavi_> yes pici :)
[14:38] <tavi_> who know where i find bobot after instalation? i installed him but i don't find him
[14:38] <Paralyzed1> I was told to run chk dsk :c /f when all my defragmenter did was stop at 35% and then say that there /f
[14:38] <Paralyzed1> that there are inconsisties *
[14:38] <Cult_of_Scaro> whats bobot? similar too a robot
[14:38] <Pici> tavi_: What is bobot?
[14:39] <Pici> Paralyzed1: If you're looking for Windows support, the proper place to ask is ##windows, not #ubuntu.
[14:39] <Paralyzed1> was everyone disconnected?
[14:39] <coagen> Paralyzed1: that sounds like a windows question....
[14:39] <Pici> !netsplit
[14:39] <Hunter> he tries to install wubi
[14:39] <Paralyzed1> Pici, im not looking for windows support, im trying to see why my successfully burned cd-rom woot boot so i can install ubuntu
[14:40] <Paralyzed1> will not boot*
[14:40] <IdleOne> Paralyzed1, change your bios settings to boot from cd rom first
[14:40] <tavi_> is a irc bot
[14:40] <coagen> Paralyzed1: when do you see this message? that is typically a windows message
[14:40] <Hunter> he did it
[14:40] <Paralyzed1> IdleOne, ive already done that
[14:41] <tavi_> bobot is a irc bot
[14:41] <Paralyzed1> Well bio asked me if i defragged and i was just telling him what happens when i try
[14:41] <Seomah> hi all - I need to change my display resolution to 1024 and cannot
[14:41] <bidossessi> Paralyzed1, sorry, i'm at work, and i missed that part
[14:41] <Pici> tavi_: It probably doesn't have a graphical interface.
[14:42] <Hunter> his HD has a problem
[14:42] <tavi_> s where i start him?
[14:42] <recon69> ﻿Seomah: you probably dont have the correct monitor set
[14:42] <Pici> tavi_: From a terminal.
[14:42] <Hunter> u did chdsk?
[14:42] <coagen> Paralyzed1: hmm to correct the error, in windows you will need to right click on your c: drive, go to properties > tools > check this drive for errors
[14:42] <Seomah> i can change the resolutions but only until 800x600, no more
[14:43] <Paralyzed1> Ok coagen, btw what does defragging have to do with the boot ?
[14:43] <axmaq_gede> is it possible to enable desktop effects on virtualbox?
[14:43] <coagen> Paralyzed1: check the boxes to correct errors automatically and click ok, it will tell you that it will run on the next reboot, so you will have to reboot and then it will run
[14:43] <pronoy> Seomah: what distro are you using.......intrepid ?
[14:43] <Pici> axmaq_gede: I don't beleive virtualbox supports accelerated graphics. So, no.
[14:43] <Seomah> yes
[14:43] <Seomah> 8.10
[14:43] <coagen> Paralyzed1: its just a safe way to make sure that when you resize a partition to install ubuntu you dont erase anything
[14:43] <pronoy> Seomah: k hang on
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> restarting now
[14:44] <bidossessi> Paralyzed1, are you using a laptop? if not, it might be a better idea to invest in a separate hdd, so that you don't loose data
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> ill be back in a moment to check it
[14:44] <axmaq_gede> ok thx
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> im on a dell desktop
[14:44] <Seomah> someone told me to get .04 but i don't want to change at the moment
[14:44] <coagen> Paralyzed1: it should take 20 mins or so to check it
[14:44] <Seomah> k pronoy tx
[14:44] <L0neWolf> I require assistance !
[14:44] <coagen> Paralyzed1: maybe longer
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> Paralyzed1: wtf, name stealers :|
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> Ok coagen, thank you
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> should it restart itself
[14:44] <Paralyzed1> or must i do it?
[14:45] <coagen> Paralyzed1: you must
[14:45] <tavi_> Pici:  more excacly? jow?
[14:45] <Rocket> jrib do  have  idea   who  i can pass  variable  to  awk   like   take  date   and pass  to awk  to use  as  filed separator
[14:45] <coagen> Paralyzed1: but only after you've told it to check the disk...
[14:45] <pronoy> Seomah: are you using gnome or kde ?
[14:45] <tavi_> how
[14:45] <Seomah> using gnome
[14:45] <Rocket> any body do  have  idea   who  i can pass  variable  to  awk   like   take  date   and pass  to awk  to use  as  filed separator
[14:45] <Pici> tavi_: The command would be: bobot++
[14:45] <pronoy> Seomah: pastebin this ------- "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:45] <Seomah> I read i have to change the color set from 24 bit to 16 but i can't
[14:46] <L0neWolf> I'm running Ubuntu 8.10 currently but I've got space (purposely left) for another distro.  I was going to try OpenSUSE but no matter what happens when I install it always wants to use the Ubuntu swap partition.  Any thoughts?
[14:46] <pronoy> Seomah: without the quotes
[14:46] <Neaai> LoneWlf: you have a dual boot system ?
[14:46] <jasminpc> hi there
[14:46] <Cult_of_Scaro> L0neWolf, sharing swap is fine
[14:46] <IdleOne> L0neWolf, that is fine
[14:46] <tiyowan> L0neWolf: Could you paste your partition setup?
[14:46] <jasminpc> does anybody knows how to lunch vmware
[14:46] <Seomah> i already edited the xorg but can't find the line for colour depth
[14:46] <L0neWolf> it's currently dual-booting Ubuntu and Vista
[14:46] <bidossessi> L0neWolf, nothing wrong with that
[14:47] <Neaai> LoneWlf: yea, both installations can use the same swap area no problem
[14:47] <tavi_> Pici: thanks you
[14:47] <Cult_of_Scaro> jasminpc, which version?
[14:47] <L0neWolf> I'm only posting about it because the last time I let it do that it broke the Ubuntu install.  If you all say it's ok then maybe it was something else
[14:47] <L0neWolf> posting?  asking... used to forums  :)
[14:47] <tavi_> Pici: and youre from?
[14:47] <Pici> tavi_: Doesn't matter :)
[14:47] <bidossessi> L0neWolf, i'm using a similar setup, althoug i started with opensuse. my two distros share the swap and the /home partition
[14:47] <jasminpc> 5.5.3
[14:47] <jasminpc> ver 5.5.3
[14:48] <agustin> hi guys why alternate cd of ubuntu doesnt recognize the cdrom driver when i want to install the os?
[14:48] <jasminpc> on ubuntu 8.10
[14:48] <coagen> LoneWlf: put a crap ton of ram in your computer and dont use swap :D
[14:48] <agustin> any one can help me pls
[14:48] <Neaai> LoneWlf: it must have been something else. Swap area is used from the currently running system and you can't use Ubuntu and Suse at the same time, it's either one or the other at anytime, so it's fine
[14:48] <BoltClock> hi, ubuntu manages to detect my iPhone 3g but f-spot cant find the photos i have in the camera roll
[14:48] <tavi_> pici maibe....
[14:48] <Cult_of_Scaro> jasminpc, so that is a workstation version?
[14:48] <L0neWolf> bidossessi, alright, well I've got a backup of Ubuntu just in case  :)  thanks for the info.
[14:48] <jasminpc> yes
[14:48] <L0neWolf> coagen, my desktop runs 4Gb but I'm not running Linux there (yet) laptop only has 2Gb
[14:48] <DasEI> erUSUL: arrgn, found it : was bastille, I checked the non systemwide home dirs , marmel (the missing desktop folders)
[14:49] <pronoy> Somah: you want to change the colour depth ?
[14:49] <bingungaja> Hello, i'm trying to install 1 program (thinkorswim) in my notebook, but something went wrong, the error is .. in http://paste.ubuntu.com/85617/ , can anyone help me solve this problem please
[14:49] <IdleOne> L0neWolf, swap sharing is not what broke your install. was probably a Grub error, Ubuntu and Opensuse use different boot loaders. if asked use the grub boot loader that is default for Ubuntu
[14:49] <erUSUL> !yay | DasEI
[14:49] <coagen> LoneWlf: you should be fine, as others have said
[14:49] <suvir_> hi
[14:49] <tavi_> pici romania?
[14:49] <Seomah> pronoy: i read that it's neede to change the resolution to 1024
[14:49] <suvir_> need some help
[14:49] <Cult_of_Scaro> jasminpc, is it installed correctly? i would open a cli, type vm and tab and see whats what
[14:49] <L0neWolf> IdleOne, Ah so if it breaks again I could run the Ubuntu LiveCD and repair it that way?
[14:49] <agustin> HELOO HELP HERE
[14:49] <Pici> tavi_: No.
[14:49] <coagen> LoneWlf: they can use the same swap so its ok
[14:49] <IdleOne> L0neWolf, yup
[14:49] <Pici> !ask | agustin
[14:49] <pronoy> Seomah: are you using any VGA ?
[14:50] <L0neWolf> IdleOne, thanks  :)
[14:50] <Seomah> a sis300/200
[14:50] <bidossessi> L0neWolf, what you have to be wary of is the partition being called from grub at boot, and the device names. opensuse uses uuids, where ubuntu uses /dev/sdxx
[14:50] <suvir_> cant get my intel PRO/Wireless 3945 to work on 8.10 ubuntu
[14:50] <agustin> !my alternate cd of intrepide ibex doesnt recognize the cdrom why?
[14:50] <jasminpcit> its instlled . but needs configuration
[14:50] <Pici> bidossessi: Ubuntu uses uuids as well.
[14:50] <jasminpcit> i dont know how
[14:50] <agustin> Pici, !my alternate cd of intrepide ibex doesnt recognize the cdrom why? its ask for drivers
[14:50] <SuwerRat> looking for program to convert avi to vob format
[14:50] <tavi_> well
[14:51] <Seomah> pronoy: it's an old PCI card. quite old
[14:51] <bidossessi> Pici, i meant ubuntu CAN use /dev/sdxx, opensuse made a conscious decision not to
[14:51] <tavi_> pici in my language means kid ...a little kid
[14:51] <Cult_of_Scaro> SuwerRat, devede
[14:51] <pronoy> Seomah: ok listen there are 2 ways...one is to edit the xorg.conf or the other is login using the recovery mode on the boot screen
[14:51] <Pici> agustin: Ask the channel, and lose the '!' in front of the question.
[14:51] <SuwerRat> thanks
[14:51] <arodd> Does anyone know why you can't use a ^ in a crontab job with a bash regular expression???
[14:51] <Pici> tavi_: I've heard that before, I just made up the word. It doesn't mean anything in English.
[14:51] <L0neWolf> alright, thanks for the information guys / gals (delete as applicable)   :)
[14:51] <Seomah> pronoy: i tried to edit the xorg, but what do i have to add?
[14:51] <Neaai> bidossessi: in OpenSuse you just can't use /dev/sd* even if you wanted to ?
[14:51] <agustin> i get to option none or cdrom
[14:51] <bidossessi> L0neWolf, lol
[14:51] <pronoy> Seomah: i did it using the latter....what you do is when you logon using the recovery mode there is an option to edit screen resolution according to one's prefrences
[14:52] <jim_p> how can i open a eml file? (its from ms outlook)
[14:52] <arodd> eml2mbox
[14:52] <pronoy> Seomah: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[14:52] <Bundestrojaner> has someone here expeience with the eeepc 1000h?
[14:52] <bidossessi> Neaai, not from grub's menu.lst,  you can't
[14:52] <Bundestrojaner> experience
[14:52] <bingungaja> Hello, i'm trying to install 1 program (thinkorswim) in my notebook, but something went wrong, the error is .. in http://paste.ubuntu.com/85617/ , can anyone help me solve this problem please
[14:52] <AltinT> ﻿ok so I'm on Hardy, I installed both kubuntu-kde4-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, but still it's not looking anything like kde 4 ... any ideas?
[14:52] <Seomah> can i paste it here?
[14:52] <L0neWolf> jim_p, I opened in a text editor, works just as well if it isn't a huge e-mail and you just want information from text body
[14:52] <erUSUL> !paste | Seomah
[14:52] <pronoy> !pastebin
[14:52] <jim_p> L0neWolf, it contains a pps!
[14:52] <Neaai> bidossessi: odd.
[14:53] <pronoy> !paste
[14:53] <Bundestrojaner> is ubuntu able to encrypt the home-folder?
[14:53] <erUSUL> !encrypt
[14:53] <L0neWolf> jim_p, ah, then that won't work.  I'm sure someone else will be able to help though!
[14:53] <pronoy> Somah: use paste.ubuntu.com
[14:53] <nik_> hello
[14:53] <root__> je tu někdo z ČR
[14:53] <Seomah> one moment
[14:54] <nik_> iam a new ubuntu 8.1 user and i would like to know how the iptables work on ubuntu
[14:54] <root__> zklapni
[14:54] <pronoy> !pastebin
[14:54] <SuwerRat> Cult_of_Scaro, thanks getting now will give a try - thanks again
[14:54] <Seomah> !pastebin
[14:54] <Neaai> nik_: iptables works exactly the same way as it does in all Linuxes
[14:54] <bidossessi> Neaai, well, i had to hack my menu.lst because ubuntu wouldn't boot using the uuid that opensuse wrote in grub. i simply replaced it with the correct device name and it worked. but ince i now have two /boot in separate partitions, i upgrade my menu.lst manually
[14:54] <pronoy> Seomah: use pastebin and paste the url here :)
[14:54] <IdleOne> !iptables | nik_
[14:55] <Seomah> doing it but its slow
[14:55] <nik_> Neaai: well i never used them in the past so i wan to learn them
[14:55] <pronoy> Seomah: take your time
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ What are you trying to do with the tables.  New users are often safer if they leave them alone
[14:55] <Cult_of_Scaro> jim_p, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45838
[14:55] <jimmyman> 1361users:|
[14:55] <BoltClock> hi, ubuntu manages to detect my iPhone 3g but f-spot cant find the photos i have in the camera roll...
[14:55] <jim_p> thanks Cult_of_Scaro
[14:55] <Neaai> bidossessi: ah I see. It's a pai though to drop certain habbits and be forced to use "the new" way.
[14:55] <Neaai> pain*
[14:56] <nj32> join #haskell
[14:56] <Seomah> ok this is it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85620/
[14:56] <Seomah> The line: Driver "vesa" was added by me
[14:56] <nik_> Jack_Sparrow: well, i wish to understand how to configure it and how its working
[14:57] <Neaai> nik_: you can't really ask to LEARN iptables here as it has quite an ammount of documentation on its own right. It's one of the most useful utilities there is and there's lots to say about it.
[14:57] <IdleOne> nik_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ man iptables   from a terminal
[14:57] <Bundestrojaner> is ubuntu able to use the function-keys on the ASUS EEE PC 1000h?
[14:57] <\\`oot> 'morning
[14:57] <pronoy> Seomah: check this link http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=946489
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !eeepc
[14:57] <shadobiii> !sixaxis
[14:57] <Bundestrojaner> thx
[14:57] <shadobiii> :(
[14:58] <nik_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo Does this site explain iptables from scratch?
[14:58] <Seomah> reading it thx
[14:58] <AltinT> ﻿can anyone tell me how to upgrade from kde 3.5 to 4? i'm running ubuntu and kubuntu-desktop ...
[14:58] <bingungaja> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so ------ what this mean, anyone can help me please ?
[14:58] <IdleOne> nik_, read it for yourself! if you want all the answers right now forget it it wont happen
[14:59] <nik_> i want to read it but i must make sure that it explains things from scratch and its easy to understand
[14:59] <Gnea> !iptables
[14:59] <m0u5e> i just installed intrepid onto my desktop, but it keeps resetting my resolution modes from 1280x1024 to 1024x768... I have a dell p991 monitor and an nvidia 4200
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ You need to start reading somewhere, we have given a couple of good sources.  Feel free to find your own
[15:00] <pronoy> Seomah: your xorg.conf doesn't contain any resolution modes........try adding them but take abackaup before doing so
[15:00] <IdleOne> nik_, any information that link gives you is more then what you have right now so you can't lose anything by reading that link
[15:00] <bidossessi> BoltClock, does it detect an iphone 3G or just an iphone. i don't know that the 3g's are supported yet in linux
[15:00] <bidossessi> BoltClock, does your iphone use a standard DCIM folder for pictures?
[15:00] <bidossessi> and can you see it in nautilus?
[15:00] <shadobiii> whats the ot chan addy?
[15:00] <bidossessi> Neaai, what is a pain is when you upgrade on of your ditros to find you can't boot the other because your menus are messed up. you'd think the possibility of dual/triple linux boots would be better handled than the classic linux/winblows case
[15:00] <m0u5e> how do i set my resolution mode *permanently to 1280x1024... i'm currently using the nvidia-settings utility, but it always resets it after reboot my computer
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> m0u5e 1024 is probably your system dropping you into vesa mode
[15:00] <Gnea> nik_: so you're going to waste time asking others, in an official support channel, whether or not it actually explains it, when it's clearly endorsed?
[15:00] <IdleOne> !ot > shadobiii
[15:00] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: compiz is running fine though
[15:00] <bidossessi> Neaai, what is a pain is when you upgrade on of your ditros to find you can't boot the other because your menus are messed up. you'd think the possibility of dual/triple linux boots would be better handled than the classic linux/winblows case
[15:01] <Neaai> nik_: iptables has it's roots here:   http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/
[15:01] <BoltClock> bidossessi: i dont know. i know its an iPhone 3g, and no, nautilus cant see it
[15:01] <Seomah> pronoy: i don't know why is empty, i'll try to edit it
[15:01] <Jack_Sparrow> m0u5e k, what version / release of ubuntu
[15:01] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: intrepid
[15:01] <myk_robinson> I have a .avi file with subtitles in a .srt file. Totem will not load the subtitles. Am i missing something? it works fine on my Kubuntu machine using Kaffeine, but not on my Ubuntu 8.10 using Totem
[15:01] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: just updated everything yesterday
[15:01] <Seomah> pronoy: i have to leave now for work. Thanks so much for your time
[15:01] <nik_> i dotn want to wast your time. i need the bst document to read on iptables. the most easy and understanndable one
[15:01] <Gnea> nik_: there are no absolutes when it comes to the documentation anyway, it's all about how well you can read and understand it.
[15:01] <nik_> the one that wont fill my mind with another questions
[15:02] <IdleOne> nik_, how are we supposed to know what your level of understanding is?
[15:02] <bidossessi> nik_, why not use google with something like "iptables tutorial"?
[15:02] <Cult_of_Scaro> nik_, what exactly do you want to do?
[15:02] <Gnea> nik_: well, that's a matter of perspective, and we just don't know what your level is.
[15:02] <pronoy> Seomah: cya
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ you have them and none will not bring up other things you will need to learn as things are always inter-related and dependent
[15:02] <Gnea> nik_: your best bet, is to simply open it up and start reading it.
[15:02] <bingungaja> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/amd64/xawt/libmawt.so ------ what this mean, anyone can help me please ?
[15:02] <sanguisdex> ok so I will be watching an avi file and all of a sudden the sound will start "skipping" (like a dirty CD) is there a way to fix that?
[15:03] <Neaai> bidossessi: yes indeed. Once I had to do a trick as in debian's grub was installed on mbr  and for some reason wouldn't boot a fedora, if not for fedora having its own grub in the boot record of it's own partition, which got reffered to from debian's grub in the mbr.
[15:03] <nik_> ok i will try to read it
[15:03] <IdleOne> click click installed.
[15:03] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: i'm going to try saving to xconf under nvidia-settings... (i'm running as root this time)... although I thought intrepid got away with everything in xorg...
[15:03] <nik_> i hope its not to technical though
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja what are ou tring to do when you get that error
[15:03] <bidossessi> nik_, you know that machine in the matrix, that pumps knowledge into your head? well it doesn't exist :p
[15:03] <Gnea> there is no try, there is only do.
[15:03] <Gnea> :)
[15:03] <coagen> nik_: search google for howtoforge iptables
[15:03] <m0u5e> does anyone know btw, where intrepid stores all its past xorg information? is it all under gconf-editor now?
[15:03] <bidossessi> Neaai, lool, talk about convoluted!
[15:03] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: what do u mean ?
[15:03] <nik_> what for example iam tryign to do is
[15:03] <coagen> nik_: read anything you can find on howtoforge about iptables
[15:03] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: i'm trying to install 1 program called thinkorswim
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> m0u5e yes, but if it is not aout identified, you need to make some edits..
[15:04] <nik_> to be able to open port 55555 for incoming connection pon localhost
[15:04] <Neaai> bidossessi: yeap. booting fedora had you go through 2 grub prompts. :p
[15:04] <nik_> or to be bale to drop huge amount of tcp syn packets
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja Is it from our repositories?
[15:04] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, what is not identified?
[15:04] <Gnea> nik_: if you don't know how to read, then perhaps you should go back to windows.
[15:04] <nik_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo is this link going to teach me that?
[15:04] <erUSUL> m0u5e: no newer xorg releases are supposed to autodetect at runtime everything the y need
[15:04] <Jack_Sparrow> m0u5e usually a monitor in m experience
[15:04] <IdleOne> Gnea, no need to be insulting ( although funny )
[15:05] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: well it detects my monitor fine...
[15:05] <coagen> nik_: are you behind a router?
[15:05] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: no, it's "financial options program" http://www.thinkorswim.com/installer/install.html
[15:05] <Gnea> IdleOne: i'm being insulting? ( see his reponse. )
[15:05] <Cult_of_Scaro> nik_, then google "iptables open ports tcp syn" that should het you exactly what you want
[15:05] <IdleOne> Gnea, it is a mindset that sometimes takes people a long time to break out of.
[15:05] <nik_> coagen yes and i have already set up port forwardign on port 55555 to localhost for torrents
[15:05] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja You will need to read up at that site on how to install it.  Do you understand what chroot is/does?
[15:06] <Neaai> nik_: you must forget about doing what you want today and these 2-3 coming days read those documents and AFTER that see what you need, only after what you have grasped in general how iptables works. When you know about the default chains, their default policies, what each does, what's their limitations, and so on.
[15:06] <Gnea> IdleOne: good point - i think he should ask in #iptables anyways, it seems he has a lot of specialized things that he wants to do
[15:06] <coagen> nik_: then what is the problem you are having?
[15:06] <m0u5e> Jack_Sparrow: alright let me see if i fixed this problem brb
[15:06] <IdleOne> Gnea, they will crucify him in a channel like that
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[15:07] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: the sites just instruct me to "At the prompt type: sh ./thinkorswim_installer.sh" ....
[15:07] <IdleOne> sorry Jack_Sparrow
[15:07] <nik_> i told you i need to make localhost listen for incoming connection on port 55555
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja You did not answer my question...
[15:07] <nik_> router is already set to forward this port
[15:07] <bidossessi> nik_, make localhost? afaik, localhost is not a service
[15:07] <Neaai> nik_: messing with iptables can completely drive you mad if you miss some detail, apparently no biggie but which could block all your traffic because you have got chain1 directed to chain2 while you wanted chain2 directed to chain1
[15:08] <mnel_work> gnea: btw, are you the gnea from #e a long time ago? :)
[15:08] <Neaai> nik_: that was an example
[15:08] <Gnea> nik_: there are a lot of concepts to iptables that take a lot of time, patience, and trial and error. you're going to need to take the time to read that site and try some things out.
[15:08] <Cult_of_Scaro> nik_, http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Security/IPtables_Basics.html
[15:08] <bidossessi> nik_, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm, a good read, anytime
[15:08] <Gnea> mnel_work: pm?
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot > bingungaja
[15:09] <coagen> nik_: how do you know you have iptables turned on ?
[15:09] <Cult_of_Scaro> you could just about cut and paste from there if you dont actually want to understand what you are doing
[15:09] <IdleOne> nik_, six people have all told you the same thing. READ the info.
[15:09] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, i'm newbie in this, i don't know what is chroot is, i just follow the sites instruction, and here's the complete error given in the consule http://paste.ubuntu.com/85617/  -- can u help me pls, it's really important program for me
[15:09] <Neaai> coagen: the recent kernels don't all have it?
[15:09] <nik_> coagen: i dont!
[15:09] <jim_p> if anyone cares, thunderbird CAN open .eml files
[15:09] <nik_> i cant vene check if i have iptables on
[15:09] <nik_> 'dont know how
[15:09] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: oh ok, i read about chroot first
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja Please read the factoid I sent you
[15:09] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[15:10] <Neaai> nik_: you're probably ok having iptables already there.
[15:10] <Cult_of_Scaro> jim_p, easily or jump through hoops? was that link i gave you any use?
[15:10] <Saga_> Anybody here know LVM?
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja You are running into the reason we try to keep newer users on 32 bit unless there is a specific need for 64 or to access over 4 gigs
[15:10] <bidossessi> make localhost listen for incoming connection...
[15:10] <nik_> guys i do want to read
[15:10] <FransE> Is Ibex experimental?
[15:10] <fosco_> no
[15:10] <Cult_of_Scaro> no
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> FransE no
[15:11] <nik_> but i WANT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IAM READING
[15:11] <nik_> no iam not an idiot
[15:11] <coagen> nik_: if you are trying to get torrents working on port 55555, then you should have no probelms with the default ubuntu install
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps > nik_
[15:11] <nik_> and yes i know about tcp/ip stack
[15:11] <bidossessi> nik_, you need more than anyone here can give
[15:11] <nik_> but i need a tutorial simple and straighforward
[15:11] <nik_> and not compilcaterd so it will drive me crazy
[15:11] <coagen> nik_: well if you want to understand, then go read, and come back and ask questions later
[15:11] <Neaai> nik_: then you'll be fine with any of the documentation provided in the links
[15:11] <IdleOne> nik_, the problem is that there is nothing simple and straight forward about iptables
[15:11] <Cult_of_Scaro> nik_, try the one i suggested
[15:12] <Neaai> nik_: pick the one Cult_of_Scaro gave and start your journey :p
[15:12] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: if i used 32 bits, it's a waste for my notebook specs ;(
[15:12] <Bundestrojaner> is the Intel Atom N270 a 32- or 64bit-cpu?
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ What you are asking for implies we know your level of experience and until you know enough to ask an intelligent question about the problem we wont be of much help
[15:12] <Bundestrojaner> i find this nowhere :-|
[15:12] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: is the error caused by not suitable program for 64 bit ibed ?
[15:13] <nik_> so please decide which tuorial suits me best for beginning
[15:13] <bidossessi> nik, there's a nice iptables video tutorial on linuxjournal. it's called "mastering iptable", in three instalments. go watch that
[15:13] <jim_p> Cult_of_Scaro, well i just imported it to thunderbird :P
[15:13] <nik_> iam not lazy
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Bundestrojaner You would be surprised at how little difference there is in speed between 32 and 64 under ubuntu
[15:13] <nik_> i need thing to start simple and then knowlenge to unrap and so on
[15:13] <IdleOne> nik_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[15:13] <Cult_of_Scaro> bingungaja, what 64 bit progs are you using that are crucial to your needs?
[15:13] <Neaai> nik_: a very very simple way to block all tcp traffic that comes in your box would be:  sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j DROP
[15:13] <nik_> i need theory and examples at the same time
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> nik_ PLease stop this discussion and go read ANY of those tutorials
[15:14] <Neaai> nik_: to erase that, you use -D instead of -I
[15:14] <Vinceman> how do I get /dev/video0 back on my comp?
[15:14] <Bundestrojaner> Jack_Sparrow: i know, but i must choose the right image...
[15:14] <bidossessi> nik_, you want the holy spirit. you've alreay had more than enough to get you started. stop talking about what you want and go GET it!!
[15:14] <coagen> nik_: I asked in #iptables and they said check out http://home.regit.org/?page_id=10
[15:14] <apo_> Hi
[15:14] <strongarm82> can someone tell me what command I use to see what computers I'm connected to?
[15:14] <apo_> Is there some software for linux that does some basic network statistics? Like a graph for bandwidth and traffic...
[15:14] <apo_> I have ntop right now, but that's overkill, uses way too much RAM on my old box.
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Bundestrojaner the 32 will work on anything  (well you know what I mean)
[15:15] <bidossessi> apo_, try iftop or iptraf
[15:15] <Ward1983> i just resized my only ntfs partition on my external harddrive, now i want to go to system -> administration -> create USB startup disk only there are no USB devices listed there
[15:15] <bingungaja> Cult_of_Scaro: not crucial, but just a waste not to use all the resources
[15:15] <Ward1983> oh i mean i resized it and placed it to the back
[15:15] <Ward1983> so in the front of the disk is now 100GB unallocated
[15:15] <nik_> coagen: thank you
[15:15] <bingungaja> Cult_of_Scaro: so i must reinstall to 32bits ? :(
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 does gparted see it
[15:15] <strongarm82> guys is there any way to scan and see what computers are connected to me over wired network?
[15:16] <DasEI> Bundestrojaner : there's relationship to the core2duo,  so 64, too
[15:16] <apo_> bidossessi: can iptraf keep the statistics between reboots?
[15:16] <bidossessi> strongarm82, what do you mean, "connected"
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja USe 32 bit OS or learn to use chroot from the tutorial I linked
[15:16] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: i presume because i can mount the NTFS partition and everything
[15:16] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: ill check to make sure it sees the 100GB unallocated
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[15:16] <bidossessi> apo_, i think you could output the data to a logfile, or you could use wireshark and save its log
[15:17] <gauravkumar> i cant access some sites in ubuntu... when i try to ping them in shell.. the ip does get resolved but it doesnt ping.. moreover i can ping the same site from a remote location
[15:17] <Cult_of_Scaro> bingungaja, almost all desktops are dual core these days, how many multithreaded apps do you think the average person uses?
[15:17] <strongarm82> bidossess1 I mean I'm connected to my proxy server at the moment, but want to know if there's a command that outputs which computers are connected to mine
[15:17] <apo_> bidossessi: Hm, I don't think that's what I'm looking for... thanks anyway
[15:17] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: yes gparted sees the unallocateed space fine
[15:17] <Cult_of_Scaro> strongarm82, connected how?
[15:17] <bidossessi> strongarm82, is your computer a server?
[15:17] <gauravkumar> i cant access some sites in ubuntu... when i try to ping them in shell.. the ip does get resolved but it doesnt ping.. moreover i can ping the same site from a remote location.. can anyone help me with this?
[15:17] <mahidhar> I had an ubuntu server in my college . I want 2 install all the remaining 60 clients through that server can i know how is it poss
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 KNowing that can you rephrase/repost your question
[15:18] <coagen> strongarm82: try doscan, pnscan, or nbtscan
[15:18] <skorasaurus> hi, is there a log for what was deleted in my trash ?
[15:18] <coagen> strongarm82: you may have to aptitude install them if they are not installed
[15:18] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: hmm i'm trying to read chroot first, try to googling , if i don't understand, maybe the final result, i will reinstall to 32 bit, but sorry to ask, u sure if i change to 32 bit, the program should worked ?
[15:18] <AltinT> ﻿eu, how do i show the desktop in kde4? the button to minimize all windows is gone...
[15:18] <csharma> is python-clutter available for ubuntu-8.10 ?
[15:18] <DasEI> !automate| mahidhar:
[15:18] <skorasaurus> i think i may have accidentally trashed a file (in nautalis), since i can't find it on searches.
[15:19] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: you know how you can make a USB bootdisk from the liveCD (system ->Administration -> Create a USB staartup disk)? thats what i want to do but it doesnt list my external harddisk (connected trough USB)
[15:19] <strongarm82> no my computer is the client, but i want to see my firewall's IP and DNS info from my client
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bingungaja I cant guarantee anything you are getting from an outside source.  Hope ou understand that, but you have a better chance of it working
[15:19] <mpalatnik> j #anope
[15:19] <coagen> strongarm82: do you mean whatismyip.com ?
[15:19] <Sniper606> i have hit some key combo that has made my backspace key stop working in irssi, how can I fix it?
[15:19] <bidossessi> strongarm82, you can use "ip route" to find out your gateway
[15:20] <mahidhar> ubottu: i m not able 2 get clear data abt it
[15:20] <bingungaja> Cult_of_Scaro: i know what you mean, but since i spend lots of money to buy this "core2duo" stuff and it'll best that i can used wht i'm spending for :) simple as that, but when i met this kind of issues, it's another story
[15:20] <strongarm82> bidossessi what's the command for ip route?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 I'm thinking but nothing is coming to me atm
[15:20] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: ok, i know, i try it first
[15:20] <Ward1983> HAHAHAH
[15:20] <bidossessi> strongarm82, the command IS "ip route"
[15:20] <bidossessi> loool
[15:20] <mahidhar> DasEI: if u wont mind can u make it clear
[15:20] <Rocket> any body do  have  idea   who  i can pass  variable  to  awk   like   take  date   and pass  to awk  to use  as  filed separator
[15:20] <coagen> strongarm82: just type route
[15:20] <gauravkumar> i cant access some sites in ubuntu... when i try to ping them in shell.. the ip does get resolved but it doesnt ping.. moreover i can ping the same site from a remote location
[15:21] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: thanx, no problem, ill keep searching, maybe someone else knows what can be the problem
[15:21] <strongarm82> thanks that's what i needed
[15:21] <bingungaja> Jack_Sparrow: btw thx for your help
[15:21] <Bundestrojaner> Jack_Sparrow: it is 32bit only
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:21] <Bundestrojaner> thx for help
[15:21] <agustin> [   26.675894] kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
[15:21] <agustin> [   26.675913] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with writeback data mode.
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Bundestrojaner There is your answer
[15:21] <agustin> what is that
[15:21] <bidossessi> strongarm82, btw, that won't show you what computers are connected to you , because for others to connect to you means you have something to offer them.
[15:22] <strongarm82> ok thanks
[15:22] <Ward1983> arp -a might be of use aswell
[15:22] <bidossessi> or netstat
[15:23] <Cult_of_Scaro> strongarm82, by "you" do you mean your router
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 HAve you tried unplugging and replugging the usb drive just prior to tring to writ to usb..
[15:23] <strongarm82> yep
[15:23] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: yep
[15:23] <Cult_of_Scaro> local?
[15:24] <Hardhead> Hi.  I was having problems with my sound on my Thinkpad and one of the suggestions I got was to reinstall my ALSA drivers, so I downloaded the newest (1.0.18) and gave it a shot.  That didn't fix the problem, but now I can't control my sound volume via my keyboard sound buttons anymore!  Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[15:24] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: i just realist this thing must be looking for preformatted space instead of unallocated :s it looks for /dev/sd etc devices
[15:24] <coagen> Hardhead: how did you "reinstall them"? did you use aptitude reinstall?
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[15:25] <Cult_of_Scaro> strongarm82, local machines, or remote?
[15:25] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: just etx3 should be fine right?
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:25] <strongarm82> local - at home
[15:25] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: does this way of installing need a swap partition?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 Sorry, on phone answering windows questions, yes, best to add a swap
[15:26] <l3xter> sisådärja, nu ska väl inte apache balla ur, serverversionen inne
[15:26] <Cult_of_Scaro> strongarm82, if your router is acting as a dhcp server, which it most likely is, it should have a list of the machines that have got an IP from it
[15:26] <kneeki> Good morning everyone
[15:26] <l3xter> sorry
[15:26] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: no problem
[15:26] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow:  thanx for the help
[15:26] <coagen> !language
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> an time
[15:26] <coagen> meh...
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> any time
[15:27] <Hardhead> coagen, I went to the website, downloaded the newest tar, ./config, make, make install.... all that good stuf.
[15:27] <Hardhead> ubottu:  The keyboard shortcuts are set right... they just don't work.
[15:27] <bidossessi> Hardhead, that might have been premature
[15:27] <coagen> Hardhead: well thats why the keys dont work anymore
[15:27] <scunizi> arg.. booted my hardy laptop this morning and the bars that contain the clock, application menu etc. have disappeared.. how do I restore them?
[15:27] <strongarm82> yea i know but i just wanted to see if it was possible to get that information from my laptop client that's connected to it, and also to see if it could detect my desktop PC that's also connected to my router
[15:27] <Hardhead> If I hit volume up, the volume pop-up appears, but the bar wont' budge above the lowest setting.
[15:28] <bidossessi> strongarm82, your other pc being connected to your router doesn't mean it's connected to your client. your phrasing was unclear. what you want is to scan your subnet
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Hardhead If you are running alsa  /j #alsa for better answers
[15:28] <Hardhead> Jack:  thanks.
[15:28] <Cult_of_Scaro> strongarm82, use nmap to scan your subnet
[15:28] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: lol one more thing: as ill be booting from this disk on multiple machines, what kind of swap size would you recommend? the largest RAM size is 4GB, but since it 32bit it wont see it all, so i was thinking just 2GB would be fine?
[15:28] <TJ-421> Hi, I've been using firestarter and I tried to use the "lock" feature.  When I did that, firestarter locked up itself and I had to force quit it.  Now, firestarter freezes when I try to start it.  I'm stuck with a locked network connection on that computer.  How do I unlock it?
[15:28] <Hardhead> bidossessi: It was.  I figured out the problem later, and it wasn't anything so complicated.  :)
[15:28] <strongarm82> oh ok - i'll try that
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Hardhead Sorry I dont have a better answer,
[15:29] <H4U> Anyone have any ideas on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011190   ?
[15:29] <bidossessi> Hardhead, you will need to revert to ubuntu's alsa
[15:29] <axyjo> hi all, i've got a mailman installation at a third level subdomain (lists.x.y.com) but all of the urls for mailman seem to point towards the principal domain (y.com). how do I fix that?
[15:29] <strongarm82> subnet being 255...?
[15:29] <Hardhead> bidossessi:  How do I do that?
[15:30] <bidossessi> strongarm82, subnet being a google question
[15:30] <\\`oot> Hi
[15:30] <\\`oot> do any of you guys use Facebook?
[15:30] <\\`oot> Ubuntu is starting to annoy me... half the things i use everyday don't work
[15:30] <\\`oot> Can someone help me out real quick?
[15:30] <jrib> \\`oot: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[15:30] <Ward1983> strongarm82: it soudns like you would want to read some stuff about basic networking first ;-)
[15:30] <coagen> \\`oot: what is your problem?
[15:30] <slayton> I've been reading the instructions on how to do software RAID on the ubuntu community docs, but that is for the system level drive... if I want to have a drive like /music or /data that is a raid array and independent of / or /home how can I set this up?
[15:31] <slayton> the docs don't explain how
[15:31] <coagen> strongarm82: i agree with Ward1983
[15:31] <\\`oot> They have this photo applet (upload your photos) which is a Java applet
[15:31] <scunizi> My background is on the screen, my desktop icons are there, I just don't have the application launcher or bar that it sits on. How do I restore it?? restarting gdm doesn't do anything.
[15:31] <\\`oot> I've installed 2 separate plugins now that it recommends
[15:31] <Cult_of_Scaro> \\`oot, its obviously your browser that is causing you a problem
[15:31] <\\`oot> including JAVA SE6
[15:31] <coagen> slayton: search howtoforge for raid
[15:31] <\\`oot> really.... Firefox?
[15:31] <jrib> \\`oot: ask a detailed question on a single line
[15:31] <DasEI> mahidhar: sorry, was off for a mom, so you wanted a mass installation ?
[15:32] <\\`oot> jrib: Didin't fit on a single line
[15:32] <AltinT> why isn't there a sound icon in the system tray in kde4, and how do I add it?
[15:32] <coagen> scunizi: press ALT + F2 to run a command... and run the command that starts the launcher
[15:32] <AltinT> my sound is very very low right now :/
[15:32] <mahidhar> DasEI: its not a prob ..... ya i want mass  installation
[15:33] <scunizi> coagen: k.. I"m in TTY now.. do you know what the command is that starts the launcher?
[15:33] <mahidhar> DasEI: can u say me clearly plz
[15:33] <jrib> \\`oot: sure it does, use a period instead of the enter key and pastebin anything that's computer output of some kind...
[15:33] <coagen> \\`oot: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:33] <Hardhead> How do I revert to the Ubuntu version of the alsa drivers?
[15:33] <Cult_of_Scaro> AltinT, run kmix, and the icon will appear
[15:33] <\\`oot> what the heck is Ubuntu-restricted-extras?!
[15:33] <bidossessi> !restricted
[15:33] <DasEI> mahidhar: so more info is needed: are the machines networked ? all the same type ?
[15:34] <AltinT> thanks ﻿Cult_of_Scaro
[15:34] <mahidhar> DasEI: ya sure
[15:34] <\\`oot> All - I am trying to use FaceBook's "photo upload" Java applet, and everytime Firefox goes to that page, it keeps tell me I don't have the right plugin, no matter how many times I install it
[15:34] <jrib> \\`oot: apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin
[15:34] <AltinT> ﻿Cult_of_Scaro, any idea about the desktop button? how do i make those appear? :p
[15:34] <bidossessi> \\`oot, you need the sun's JRE
[15:35] <coagen> Hardhead: try doing a aptitude search alsa and reinstall all the alsa packages that are installed
[15:35] <DasEI> mahidhar: did you read the link I gave you ? another : http://clonezilla.org/
[15:35] <\\`oot> I installed the Sun Java SE 6.x plugin
[15:35] <coagen> \\`oot: ubuntu-restricted-extras conntains sun-java etc...
[15:35] <jrib> \\`oot: can you pastebin the output of the command I gave you?
[15:35] <\\`oot> no dice (I'm installing the other stuff you guys said now)... back in a few
[15:35] <Cult_of_Scaro> AltinT, yeah its the "show folder" widget, set it to the desktop folder\
[15:36] <\\`oot> the extras pkg is installing, please wait
[15:36] <\\`oot> !pastebin
[15:36] <scunizi> coagen: any idea? how to restore the upper and lower desktop bars with an Alt+F2 command?
[15:36] <mahidhar> DasEI: i m on the process ........ i tried in forms even
[15:36] <DasEI> mahidhar: basically they are two solution for that scenario : first on identic machines is to install one and then clone it's hd by hd to the others, pretty easy n fast, if hd (or the initial partitions) are not too big and it is identical hardware
[15:37] <mahidhar> DasEI:  i got some date but i m not clear
[15:37] <Ward1983> lol gparted is weird, all operations completed successfully yet i got 2 errors :p
[15:37] <coagen> scunizi: try gnome-panel
[15:37] <Ward1983> and yet it works
[15:37] <Ward1983> condradictions everywhere lol
[15:37] <scunizi> coagen: thanks
[15:37] <AltinT> ﻿Cult_of_Scaro, i don't have such a widget in the list?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 Well done
[15:37] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: lol same damn problem now :(
[15:37] <slayton> Cult_of_Scaro, nice name!
[15:38] <\\`oot> Here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85629/
[15:38] <Cult_of_Scaro> AltinT, sorry man, not on my kubuntu box right now
[15:38] <DasEI> mahidhar: next way is to set up a server with a kickstart , that will install the other clients
[15:38] <AltinT> ah k, np, thanks for help ;)
[15:38] <AltinT> ;)*
[15:38] <AltinT> pidgin emoticens suck :s
[15:38] <DasEI> mahidhar: 3rd could take a app as clonezilla
[15:39] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: any more suggestions? i thought this was gonna be easy :(
[15:39] <mahidhar> DasEI: what is kickstart
[15:39] <\\`oot> jrib: Pasted (http://paste.ubuntu.com/85629/)
[15:39] <coagen> mahidhar: kickstart is a way to clone machines
[15:39] <ikonia> mahidhar: automated build profiles
[15:39] <DasEI> mahidhar: a configuration-utility to modify regular installer
[15:39] <Cult_of_Scaro> AltinT, maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=675277
[15:39] <jrib> \\`oot: what do you see under "Test your JVM" at http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 It doesnt just let you install to the drive .. ignoring the fact that is on usb..
[15:39] <tavi> where is jim_p
[15:39] <Cult_of_Scaro> slayton, cheers bro
[15:39] <tavi> ?
[15:40] <bidossessi> it might be worth it to look into FAI for mass installation
[15:40] <tavi> i had have a power failure
[15:40] <mahidhar> DasEI: k then how can i proceed
[15:40] <tavi> and i didn speaked whit him
[15:40] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow: i dont want to "install" i want to make a bootdisk, the same way liek many people do with a USB stick
[15:40] <coagen> tavi: what is your problem?
[15:40] <slayton> Cult_of_Scaro, can't wait for the next season to start!
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[15:40] <bidossessi> Ward1983, unetbootin didn't work for you?
[15:41] <mahidhar> DasEI: thing is 2marro i want 2 change all my lab sys into ubuntu ..... so i cant install all 60 sys with a cd
[15:41] <DasEI> mahidhar: which of the three ways you choose, depends on : similar hardware given ? your knowledge / experience with linux/network ?  Internet given for the clients ? you must give closer info on this
[15:41] <tavi> well i have up to numbers on keyboard !@#$%*() not as usually
[15:41] <\\`oot> "...not working on your system"
[15:41] <\\`oot> shocking
[15:41] <Lunz> need help, i am using ubuntu version 7.10, i am having problem with my ati graphic card driver sapphire radeon 9550 256mb, how to install driver?i am running in low graphic now..
[15:41] <jrib> \\`oot: restart your browser
[15:41] <\\`oot> done, twice now
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mahidhar We have had others do a broadcast type of install for labs.. But I dont remember how they did it
[15:41] <Ward1983> bidossessi: i dunno what that is
[15:41] <\\`oot> I guess I'll try a 3rd
[15:41] <tavi> stupid power failure .....
[15:41] <jrib> \\`oot: close your browser, run 'ps -ef | grep firefox' and check if you get anything
[15:41] <mahidhar> DasEI: i m beginner
[15:42] <\\`oot> alright, give me a sec
[15:42] <bidossessi> Ward1983, install to usb made easy, using an iso. look it up
[15:42] <jrib> !who | \\`oot
[15:42] <Cult_of_Scaro> slayton, i like how its modern, but still kind of has that cybermen wearing silver painted gumboots feel, really clever how they have done that
[15:42] <mahidhar> Jack_Sparrow: can u find it now
[15:42] <DasEI> mahidhar: are the clients identical ? specs ?
[15:42] <coagen> \\`oot: it may depend on some winblows specific function... if so you are out of luck
[15:42] <Ward1983> bidossessi: i think thats what im doing?
[15:42] <Lunz> what is the different between 8.04 and ultimate edition?
[15:42] <mahidhar> DasEI: identical
[15:42] <jrib> !ultimate | Lunz
[15:42] <slayton> Cult_of_Scaro, yes they've preserved the old classic feel but made it work in the modern day! David tennant has been an amazing dr
[15:43] <DasEI> mahidhar: ram/procs/hd-size ?
[15:43] <Ward1983> bidossessi: either way, it doesnt get any simpler then the scren i have in front of me lol
[15:43] <\\`oot> coagen: No, I've had it working in the 8.4 install on my laptop
[15:43] <mahidhar> DasEI:  all r same in config
[15:43] <bidossessi> Ward1983, using it already?
[15:43] <Lunz> ok
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> mahidhar I will briefly try to see where we left off on that project
[15:43] <coagen> Lunz: ultimate contains some extra stuff not in the default ubuntu install
[15:43] <DasEI> mahidhar:got it,   ram/procs/hd-size ?
[15:44] <scunizi> coagen: Alt+f2 doesn't bring up the terminal line.. when trying to use gnome-panel from tty3 the system says it's not installed .. after installation I can't get it to run but discovered that compiz might be part of my woes. is there a way to turn off compiz from a tty?
[15:44] <Lunz> coagen: thanks
[15:44] <coagen> tavi: not sure I understand your issue
[15:44] <\\`oot> I stand corrected.... I killed all my FIrefox instances, and now sh** works
[15:44] <Lunz> need help, i am using ubuntu version 7.10, i am having problem with my ati graphic card driver sapphire radeon 9550 256mb, how to install driver?i am running in low graphic now..
[15:44] <\\`oot> thanks guys... I guess I was just stubborn
[15:44] <coagen> scunizi: yes let me check I've forgotten...
[15:44] <Ward1983> bidossessi: well this screen i see when i go to System -> Administration -> create usb startup disk is as simple as one possible can imagine it so...
[15:44] <\\`oot> back in 10
[15:45] <mahidhar> DasEI: 1GB ram n p4 process n 140GB hd-size
[15:45] <tavi> i have at numbers when i hit shift not as ussually
[15:45] <coagen> \\`oot: awesome, glad to hear it
[15:45] <mahidhar> Jack_Sparrow: k pls try
[15:45] <\\`oot> coagen: Now if only I could get gnome-art-ng to work in 8.10
[15:45] <\\`oot> :(
[15:45] <DasEI> mahidhar: so these are desktops, not lappy's ?
[15:45] <coagen> Lunz: did it work before?
[15:45] <bidossessi> Ward1983, well, that's a startup disk, not really "ubuntu on a stick" that unetbootin could make :p
[15:45] <\\`oot> I like messing with themes, gives it a "nicer" look - but there are SO many options!!
[15:46] <mahidhar> DasEI: s
[15:46] <Ward1983> bidossessi: i was is that not the same?
[15:46] <Ward1983> bidossessi:  without i was lol
[15:46] <Lunz> coagen:i used nvidia before this
[15:46] <coagen> tavi: hmm you may have an incorrect key layout installed....
[15:46] <Lunz> coagen:i just changed my graphic card
[15:46] <denier> Hey guys just had a quick question. I recently created a l2tp vpn on my linux box so I can connect to it when I am on a insecure wifi access point. I just wanted to make sure of one thing. If someone else was connected to the wifi accespoint, could they see to what ips or websites I was connected to? (or could that be seen in the accespoints/routers logs? I mean all the data is supposed to be encrypted through the vpn, but will they be able to see to what
[15:46] <denier> addresses i am connected or only the vpns addres? thanks
[15:46] <bidossessi> Ward1983, not exactly, i think. but then i might be wrong :)
[15:47] <coagen> \\`oot: visit gnome-look.org and check out my "blue sun" gtk theme :)
[15:47] <DasEI> mahidhar: you could set up one machine with a installation size of lets say 10g, and then clone
[15:47] <Ward1983> bidossessi: im folowing a howto so i think your wrong then lol
[15:47] <Pici> denier: If you are tunnelling everything through the vpn, then they will only see that address.
[15:47] <tavi> i understanded from jim_p that i cat set from system>preferences
[15:47] <mahidhar> DasEI: whats 10g
[15:47] <DasEI> mahidhar: also do you think it's a good idea to change em all at one time ? productive system ?
[15:47] <coagen> Lunz: try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> mahidhar Can we take this to PM so we dont spam the channel..
[15:48] <DasEI> mahidhar: 10 Gigabyte
[15:48] <coagen> Lunz: then logout and login
[15:48] <mahidhar> DasEI: n i installed in one system of server edition of ubuntu
[15:48] <mahidhar> Jack_Sparrow: can i know who is pm
[15:49] <Lunz> coagen: ok i will try later and will let you know the result, thanks
[15:49] <Ward1983> jesus why does this retarded windows not want to see my harddisk :@
[15:49] <coagen> scunizi: ok try this http://mteixeira.webset.net/blog/20071129/enablingdisabling-compiz-from-command-line/
[15:49] <Ward1983> i meant windoW
[15:49] <denier> pici, thanks. i was just askinb, because i was doing a test on a windows machine connected to the vpn. I opened up my firewall to see all open connections and i was surpirsed to see that there were connections from my vpn ip that the vpn assinged to me towards the websites i was surfing. so not only could i see my connection between me and the vpn, but also several connections between me and the websites...
[15:49] <AltinT> ﻿Cult_of_Scaro, thanks again!
[15:49] <sys32> #hacking.ge
[15:50] <DasEI> mahidhar: you could get a change-frame fo hd, then each pc would take about 10-20 min, and of course some mechanical action for re-mounting hd's -- have electric screwdriver handy, simplest and fastest way
[15:50] <bidossessi> Ward1983, fdisk -l lists the device?
[15:50] <DasEI> bidossessi: yes
[15:50] <garnol> Hi people, How can i get my Ubuntu start up in less than a few seconds? At the moment it needs more than 90!
[15:51] <bidossessi> garnol, suspend2ram
[15:51] <coagen> tavi:  this is correct, did you set to the correct keymap? and btw are you using a laptop?
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol turn off splash in menu.lst
[15:51] <AltinT> where do you enable Compiz?
[15:51] <Lunz> coagen: but that doesnt install the driver right?
[15:51] <bidossessi> DasEI, ??
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> mahidhar https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16709
[15:51] <mahidhar> DasEI: k
[15:52] <DasEI> bidossessi: yes, lists devices
[15:52] <bidossessi> DasEI, i was asking Ward1983 a question about his setup
[15:52] <garnol> bidossession is suspending in Utuntu better than the windows supension? Windows gets slower and slower xD
[15:52] <coagen> garnol: you can try this: http://lightningcrash.blogspot.com/2007/08/making-ubuntu-boot-in-19-seconds.html
[15:52] <Lunz> coagen: how do i check my graphic card using the correct diver?
[15:52] <coagen> garnol: but make sure you know whaat you are doing
[15:52] <flyme> hi guys! I dont have any sound in totem and rythmbox but I have in amarok what could be the problem?
[15:52] <scunizi> coagen: I figured it out.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop replaced the needed items that were removed after trying to uninstall Evolution..
[15:52] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow what slpashes will be turned off than?
[15:52] <garnol> coagen ok, thanks for the link
[15:53] <Ward1983> bidossessi: sorry didnt notice what you said, im on this stupid gnome xchat
[15:53] <Ward1983> bidossessi: regular xchat is not in the livecd lol
[15:53] <mon^rch> how do I get jack audio to "work"?
[15:53] <DasEI> mahidhar: afterwards - with the sys'es running you will then have to recover the ""lost"" 130 G of the machines - can do it in a break or overnight
[15:53] <Lunz> !ati
[15:53] <scunizi> Ward1983: you can install it for that session or use irssi from terminal or a different tty
[15:53] <flyme> hi guys! I dont have any sound in totem and rythmbox but I have in amarok what could be the problem?
[15:54] <coagen> Lunz: if you did that command I told you to it should use the ubuntu default driver, then go to "system > admin > hardware drivers" if you see something there you can enable then do it.. other wise you have the correct driver
[15:54] <Ward1983> bidossessi: yes it sees it
[15:54] <bidossessi> flyme, check your options in gstreamer-properties
[15:54] <flyme> bidossessi: how do i check that?
[15:54] <bidossessi> Ward1983, does it get listed with a number? e.g. sdd1
[15:54] <gustavonarea> Hi. I need to know which of my enabled repositories provides a given package (i.e., kwalletmanager). How can I do that?
[15:55] <Ward1983> wtf i cannot highlight scunizi trough tab completion
[15:55] <bidossessi> flyme, open"gstreamer-properties"
[15:55] <DasEI> mahidhar: if I pull your info together, I'd suggest you to take maybe just a 20 in the first run;I also imagine, it's not a playground you run there ?
[15:55] <Ward1983> bidossessi: nope
[15:55] <flyme> bidossessi: ok
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983 Please watch the swearing
[15:55] <Ward1983> bidossessi: sde
[15:55] <gustavonarea> `apt-get show -v kwalletmanager` doesn't displays the repository
[15:55] <Squid> #gladiatus.fr
[15:55] <tavi> coagen sorry i was in the kitchen
[15:55] <tavi> coagen ste the keymap?
[15:56] <mahidhar> DasEI: but what should i do now
[15:56] <coagen> Ward1983: thats because he left the room
[15:56] <jan__> Prosím Vás,jsem tady poprvé,tak se nezlobte,jestli budu dělat něco špatně.
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> mahidhar https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16709
[15:56] <DasEI> mahidhar: how is the current sys operated ?
[15:56] <mikeabcdetoz>  im seeing a lot of FAT: Directory bread(block 39374) failed messages in dmesg
[15:56] <mikeabcdetoz> is my data corrupted?
[15:56] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow what will turning off the pslashes in the menu.lst do ?
[15:57] <coagen> mikeabcdetoz: most likely yes
[15:57] <jan__> Chtěl jsem se zeptat,jestli jde přeinstalovat Kubuntu 32Bit Desktop na Server
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol It can drastically improve booting speed
[15:57] <coagen> mikeabcdetoz: but more likely your hard drive is failing
[15:57] <mahidhar> DasEI: maens
[15:57] <mikeabcdetoz> coagen: this happened right after inserting it
[15:57] <gauravkumar> cant access a particular site... tried traceroute and tcptraceroute to check .. the site can be accessed.. i cant ping the site.. can ping from a remote location.. what can be the problem?? pls help.. this is really important
[15:57] <\\`oot> coagen: I have been on that site a million times - I just never know which "theme" to download (there are a million options on the left GTK 1.x, GTK 2.x, Beryl, Comipz....) and there isn't one that works in the System >Preferences >appearence
[15:58] <coagen> tavi: did you set the correct keymap?
[15:58] <DasEI> mahidhar: are this win clients connecting to a dhcp/static server ?
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !cz > jan__
[15:58] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow there is no side effect?
[15:58] <coagen> mikeabcdetoz: so, lots of hard drives go bad man...
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol Nope, other than no pretty screen to watch for 90 seconds
[15:58] <coagen> \\`oot: what do you mean they dont work? did you use the install button there to install a theme?
[15:59] <mahidhar> DasEI: static server
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol and eas enough to turn bacvk on if it does not speed it up
[15:59] <gauravkumar> anyone?
[15:59] <tavi> coagen mean what? how i do that?
[15:59] <\\`oot> yes, and 90+% of the time it throws some gay error about not being the "right type" or it won't recognize the file-type (.tar.gz)
[15:59] <DasEI> mahidhar: is it a hot (productive) system ? what about the data currently on the clients ?
[15:59] <garnol> where can i find the menu.lst and "bacvk" ?? --(sry im relativly new)
[16:00] <jrib> \\`oot: please don't use the word "gay" in that manner here
[16:00] <flyme> bidossessi: I changed it to ALSA because I use alsa but it does still not work :(
[16:00] <\\`oot> sorry
[16:00] <coagen> tavi: you must select the correct keymap for your keyboard, for example if you have a "russian" keyboard you would select a russian keymap, in the menu where jonp told you it was
[16:00] <DasEI> garnol:/boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:00] <mahidhar> DasEI: no data all r new systems
[16:00] <ardchoille> garnol: if you're relatively new, then you might not want to be working with menu.lst yet
[16:01] <simmerz1> hi. trying to connect to a windows vista machine using xvnc4viewer, and it connects, then dies immediately saying "end of stream". any ideas?
[16:01] <tavi> heh
[16:01] <flyme> bidossessi: but i also get an error code in terminal starting gstreamer-properties
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:01] <garnol> k found it, and what is bacvk?
[16:01] <coagen> \\`oot: msg me and i'll help you install one
[16:01] <tavi> coagen i will see
[16:01] <DasEI> mahidhar: 1.st big uff
[16:01] <Ward1983> coagen: ah i didnt see that
[16:01] <mahidhar> DasEI: what
[16:01] <tavi> coagen ...i instaled bobot and i don find him
[16:02] <DasEI> mahidhar: that's a big prob less
[16:02] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow what is the gk infront of suod for? I always use sudo
[16:02] <mahidhar> DasEI: k tnnks then
[16:02] <ardchoille> !gksudo | garnol
[16:02] <Hardhead> Is there a simple way to reinstall all my alsa stuff from my ubuntu CD?
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol Please use gksudo for gui apps.. it is important
[16:02] <coagen> tavi: try whereis bobot from a console
[16:02] <garnol> oh ok
[16:02] <bidossessi> flyme, why go to the console? it's in the menus (system)
[16:03] <tavi> mean from a terminal?
[16:03] <DasEI> mahidhar: now well, you could do it so then, and what about the users , any linux there ?
[16:03] <coagen> tavi: yes
[16:03] <tavi> coagen mean from a terminal?
[16:03] <mahidhar> DasEI: no
[16:03] <tavi> ok
[16:03] <coagen> Hardhead: welll you'd have to know what was installed...
[16:03] <hasibullah> hi everybody
[16:03] <flyme> bidossessi: I dont have it in in preferences
[16:03] <AltinT> eu i'm installing yakuake-kde4 through the package manager, and it kindof stoped doing anything ... what should i do?
[16:04] <hasibullah> is there anyone
[16:04] <tavi> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$ whereis bobot
[16:04] <tavi> bobot:
[16:04] <tavi> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[16:04] <AltinT> it says it's setting up the package, for a few minutes now :/
[16:04] <hasibullah> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[16:04] <tiyowan> AltinT: Do you see a Details heading?
[16:04] <tavi> well coagen?
[16:04] <coagen> tavi: i guess you must consult the bobot documentation
[16:05] <tavi> that was what showed me
[16:05] <coagen> tavi: try man bobot or apropos -k bobot
[16:05] <bidossessi> flyme, what error do you get, and are you using ubuntu (gnome) or kubuntu?
[16:05] <khyros> re
[16:05] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow by truning splash off you mean uncommenting "defoptions=quiet splash" ?
[16:05] <gauravkumar> cant access a particular site... tried traceroute and tcptraceroute to check .. the site can be accessed.. i cant ping the site.. can ping from a remote location.. what can be the problem?? pls help.. this is really important
[16:05] <DasEI> mahidhar: so you got to know that it takes some time to configure the OS ? see, the netbased method is the more advandced, but I doubt you will set up in one run or even day
[16:05] <AltinT> ﻿tiyowan, yes in details it says "setting up ﻿yakuake-kde4"
[16:05] <ak5> hey, can someone give me a comprehensive tutorial for installing mysql on an apache+php webserver? I've googled, but to no avail. I am using Intrepid Ibex. Thanks!
[16:06] <jrib> !lamp > ak5
[16:06] <ak5> thanks
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> garnol you can easily test by hitting e for edit at grub and removing quiet and splash there too.. brb
[16:06] <coagen> ak5 search howtoforge for "the perfect system"
[16:06] <coagen> ak5: or "perfect setup"
[16:06] <david_> I'm having a problem with upgrading, I get a response for a partial upgrade, and now Xfce desktop session continually logs me out
[16:06] <ak5> coagen, i've seen that, but it has way too much :D I don't need all that
[16:06] <KillGuta> hello all
[16:07] <KillGuta> why isn't winetricks working for me?
[16:07] <mahidhar> DasEI: what do u mean abt one run or every day
[16:07] <DasEI> mahidhar: also each user will need some time to get by with a new sys
[16:07] <KillGuta> I want to install gecko
[16:07] <tiyowan> AltinT: Right-click on one of the panels. Click on Add to Panel... Select the Force Quit applet. Click on the broken window applet that appears on your panel. You should be able to click on the hung package window in order to terminate it.
[16:07] <coagen> ak5 well just use what you need
[16:07] <tavi> coagen is possible that to be whereis bobot++ cause thsi is his fill mane
[16:07] <tavi> ?
[16:07] <bingungaja> when i want to install sun-java6-plugin, why it stated ... Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[16:07] <david_> tiyowan,  is that for me?
[16:07] <coagen> tavi: yes try that
[16:07] <Slart_> bingungaja: are you running 64-bit ubuntu?
[16:07] <tiyowan> david_: Nope.
[16:07] <ak5> coagen, well, thanks anyway! Have a nice day
[16:08] <tiyowan> gauravkumar: Which site are you trying to access?
[16:08] <hal_v2> Anyone here have any experience with skype?
[16:08] <KillGuta> why isn't WINETRICKS working for me?
[16:08] <LeviTheSmith> Guys, I love you. Everyone who contributed to Ubuntu.
[16:08] <bidossessi> hal_v2, state your issue
[16:08] <bingungaja> Slart_: yes .. it's 64bit issues too ?? *sigh*
[16:08] <Slart_> !anyone | hal_v2
[16:08] <tavi> coagen tavi@tavi-desktop:~$ whereis bobot++
[16:08] <tavi> bobot++: /usr/bin/bobot++ /usr/share/bobot++ /usr/share/man/man1/bobot++.1.gz
[16:08] <tavi> tavi@tavi-desktop:~$
[16:08] <LeviTheSmith> i cannot activate compiz. this is an older laptop but when i choose normal it tells me it cant do it
[16:08] <Leewings> Is there anything like ISA client?
[16:08] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow lets try if it worked ;-) -- i will be right back
[16:08] <Slart_> bingungaja: java and flash are the two things that can be nasty..
[16:08] <onetinsoldier> bingungaja: i was told that package won't be available for 64-bit systems until sometime in 2009
[16:08] <hasibullah> actually microsoft programs arent working in u 8.04 after installing wine too
[16:08] <Slart_> bingungaja: I don't think suns java is available as 64 bit..
[16:08] <hasibullah> what can i do
[16:09] <bidossessi> hasibullah, http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[16:09] <david_> anyone have a soultion for xfce logging me out saying xsession has failed, and only able to get partial upgrade the failed upgrade package is xfce4
[16:09] <hal_v2> So I have skype working on my laptop, and the user can see me, and I can see her, but I can't see myself, and it's really annoying. Anyone know how to fix it?
[16:09] <AltinT> ﻿tiyowan, can't find that, my aplet is kinda messy with kde4, are there any hotkeys to do that?
[16:09] <khyros> I have a question:I use guarddog for firewall for a while and i recognized, that i have a lot of dropped, rejected package that the localhost send from an another destination, how can i know what kind of process/service/daemon had sent this rejected, dropped package?
[16:09] <k21> what is best gui irc client program for ubuntu, plz???
[16:09] <david_> xchat imho
[16:09] <bingungaja> Slart_: ha ...... tht's mean, i had to reinstall to 32bit ... using Chroot is too difficult for me ;(
[16:09] <tiyowan> AltinT: Oh sorry. I thought you were using Gnome. My bad. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace should terminate your session and log you out, I think.
[16:09] <coagen> tavi: that should have answered your question
[16:09] <DasEI> mahidhar: I'm talking about different ways to handle this given task - that method I described requires either at least little experienced users or a later setup of a central maintenance-server, though it's the quickest and also easiest way to set up all of them once
[16:09] <hasibullah> helllooooooooooooo is there anybody
[16:09] <bidossessi> hal_v2, see yourself?? isn't there a button to allow a bottom corner grabber?
[16:10] <jrib> bingungaja: use icedtea instead of sun's
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> david_: what does it show if you do: dpkg -l xfce4
[16:10] <marnanel> What's the name of those people who go aroudn putting Ubuntu on people's computers for them?  I have a friend in another state who wants to try Ubuntu but it's too far for me to go and help them
[16:10] <Slart_> bingungaja: try installing icedtea instead..
[16:10] <minulost64> mohu mluvit česky?
[16:10] <hal_v2> No, there's no corner or anything, the window looks disabled and all it shows is the video of the person I'm talking to.
[16:10] <Slart_> !info icedtea6-plugin | bingungaja
[16:10] <tiyowan> marnanel: The loco teams?
[16:10] <tavi> well yes
[16:10] <jrib> !loco | marnanel
[16:10] <tavi> but how i start him?
[16:10] <tavi> cause i dont find him?
[16:10] <marnanel> tiyowan, jrib : thanks
[16:11] <majka> majka
[16:11] <Leewings> How to set proxy for the whole system?
[16:11] <mahidhar> DasEI: k what should i do after sitting before server system
[16:11] <perlmonkey> Geeez what have they done to CUPS in 8.04? my printers are totally screwed and ive got a 20 minute printing deadline :-/
[16:11] <samanen> Do anyone have xmoto working on PSP?
[16:11] <david_> onetinsoldier, how can I copy paste into xchat the info from bash?
[16:12] <ak5> I am getting the same error I have received before following the guide you gave me, jrib. It is an acces denied error when I try $ sudo mysql -u root
[16:12] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow it really speeds the start"up" , what was the second thing you recommanded to me?
[16:12] <tiyowan> david_ !pastebin
[16:12] <perlmonkey> does anyone know where the printing job spooler thing is now which lets you delete jobs? its totally gone
[16:12] <k21> what is best gui irc client program for ubuntu, plz??
[16:12] <hal_v2> Does anybody have a fix for skype not letting me see myself?
[16:12] <tiyowan> david_ | !pastebin
[16:12] <bingungaja> Slart_: my issue is , i want to install 1 program ,, but some error occured http://paste.ubuntu.com/85617/ , but then somebody here suggest me to use chroot, i'd read the article, too difficult for me as newbie, then i google some way out to solve the problem, then somebody told me to install java6, then here i am ... using icetea will solve this issues ?
[16:12] <coagen> tavi:  you may have to edit some configuration files... but as far as I can tell you would just type bobot++ to start it or /usr/bin/bobot++
[16:12] <tiyowan> Hmmm...
[16:12] <srip> k21,xchat
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> david_: that are just the first two characters? they show the state the package is in
[16:12] <k21> ok thx
[16:12] <jrib> ak5: did you set a password?  pass -p and enter it
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> david_: what are just the first two characters? they show the state the package is in
[16:12] <tiyowan> !paste > tiyowan
[16:13] <david_> onetinsoldier, says  desired=Unknown
[16:13] <Slart_> bingungaja: icedtea is a replacement for suns java on 64 bit.. I don't know about the rest of your issues
[16:13] <perlmonkey> sheesh this is the last time i do a latest upgrade in Ubuntu
[16:13] <jrib> ak5: and there's no need for sudo
[16:13] <k21> what is install command: srip
[16:13] <bingungaja> Slart_: ok, i'll go for icedtea instead first
[16:13] <ak5> jrib, ah, well I need a root account to use mysql then?
[16:13] <perlmonkey> where are print jobs in 8.04?
[16:13] <DasEI> mahidhar: don't understand that quest ; you have to deceide if you want to put all machines up and then come to more detailed/deeper solutions, or, that requires more forework then a callby and a day of work, want to develop a integrated solution from start
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> david_: not that.. where it displays xfce4.. like this one for the 'less' package
[16:14] <k21> srip: like yum in fedora
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> david_: ii  less                      418-1                     Pager program similar to more
[16:14] <jrib> ak5: no....  Just reset your password using the link on the wiki and then try again
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> david_: what does it show in place of   ii
[16:14] <jrib> ak5: the mysql password for root that is
[16:14] <srip> k21,go to synaptic
[16:15] <k21> ok
[16:15] <garnol> Jack_Sparrow still there?
[16:15] <perlmonkey> this chatroom is just as useless as the distro is :-/
[16:15] <mahidhar> DasEI: k but i have 2 do it 2marro only
[16:15] <david_> onetinsoldier, here is the output entirely of dpkg Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[16:15] <david_> | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[16:15] <david_> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[16:15] <david_> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[16:15] <david_> +++-[16:15] <FloodBot2> david_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <tiyowan> !patience | perlmonkey
[16:15] <k21> does ubuntu does not ask for root pwd???
[16:15] <Pici> !sudo | k21
[16:15] <pybe> i'm having connectivity issues on a windows domain. I can get out to the net fine, and I can ping hostname and nslookup hostname or hostname.domain.local but I cannot ping or access hostname.domain.local...... any clues?
[16:16] <david_> onetinsoldier,  did you see my post?
[16:16] <bidossessi> pybe, using a linux client?
[16:16] <leeping2008> Hey there, is there a way for me to put a process into the background and get the terminal back, and still have that process run (something like CTRL + Z, except I don't want the process to freeze after I put it in the back.)
[16:16] <Guest70870> something went kind of wrong, how do i completely reset the kde 4 settings? (i'm on 3 now, because i changed some options, and kde4 shows only my mouse ...)
[16:16] <bidossessi> pybe, using a linux client with a windows dhcp/dns server?
[16:16] <pybe> bidossessi, yeah 8.10
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> david_: nope.. it stop right before the actual line that i wanted to see. i only need to see one line of the output
[16:17] <DasEI> mahidhar: 1) get a machine with a hd-change frame and a good cdrom, a good ubuntu cd
[16:17] <david_> onetinsoldier, Ill try to paste priv ok
[16:17] <onetinsoldier> david_: and that line is the one that has the actual   xfce4   on it
[16:17] <david_> onetinsoldier,  its a very odd ouput nothing like your describing hence let me post it fully priv
[16:17] <onetinsoldier> david_: ok, /msg me then
[16:17] <mahidhar> DasEI: k
[16:17] <DasEI> mahidhar: 2) do a fresh install with updates ( net required) , size 10 Gig, rest unallocated
[16:18] <Altin1> ﻿something went kind of wrong, how do i completely reset the kde 4 settings? (i'm on 3 now, because i changed some options, and kde4 shows only my mouse ...)
[16:18] <bidossessi> pybe, i'm assuming that domain.local is hosted on your local server. can you dig domain.local?
[16:18] <pybe> bidossessi, yeah ubuntu 8.10 client with server 2003 ad, dhcp, dns. I have other ubuntu boxes working fine but this fresh 8.10 install is just not happy/
[16:18] <DasEI> mahidhar: 3) pull out 59 harddrives
[16:19] <tiyowan> AltinT: Are you using Kubuntu?
[16:19] <DasEI> mahidhar: 4) copy the installed hd sector-wise
[16:19] <pybe> bidossessi, yeah dig works
[16:19] <coagen> leeping2008: you should try "screen"
[16:19] <mahidhar> DasEI: how 2 copy hd-sector
[16:19] <leeping2008> coagen, I do use screen
[16:19] <DasEI> mahidhar: 5) rebuild hds , be done till then
[16:19] <coagen> leeping2008: read up on how to use it, its very useful
[16:19] <Altin1> ﻿tiyowan, yes
[16:19] <bidossessi> pybe, maybe a firewall killing icmp responses from hostname.domain.local?
[16:19] <coagen> leeping2008: search for "linux screen tutorial" or something like that
[16:19] <tiyowan> !kubuntu | Altin1
[16:19] <Altin1> i read somewhere i just need to delete my .kde4 folder, to reset the settings, any idea where it's located?
[16:20] <leeping2008> coagen, I have many screen "sub-windows" open already.  However, each one is a different research project and I'd like to keep my windows organized...
[16:20] <leeping2008> I understand that I can just open another window if I like
[16:20] <tiyowan> Altin1: The folks in the kubuntu channel should know how to get your KDE up and running again.
[16:20] <pybe> bidossessi, no firewall. But if I ping hostname I get response listed as hostname.domain.local
[16:20] <leeping2008> The ability to send a process to the background isn't absolutely essential, but it would be very convenient
[16:20] <DasEI> mahidhar: assuming it's a standard setup, from live cd: sudo dd if=/dev/sda  of=/dev/sdb
[16:20] <Altin1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=669216
[16:20] <Altin1> yea, i found how, but not where :p
[16:20] <coagen> leeping2008: well you can use screen and gnome-terminal startup scripts
[16:21] <fasta> How can I say that files of type foo should be opened with application bar in Firefox?
[16:21] <bidossessi> pybe, try finding out if your machine (client) has the correct fqdn. using "hostname --fqdn"
[16:21] <fasta> It sees README files as being binary.
[16:21] <pybe> bidossessi, yeah its correct
[16:21] <mahidhar> DasEI: k then whats next
[16:21] <leeping2008> coagen, I'll look into it.  Thanks :)
[16:21] <coagen> leeping2008: with gnome-terminal you can specifiy the positon of the window when it is opened from the command line.
[16:21] <ak5> jrib, sry, one last question: How do I verify that my mysql installation is recognized by apache+php ?
[16:21] <bidossessi> pybe, no firewall on the client side? what services are you trying to access?
[16:22] <DasEI> mahidhar: doing this over network is more elegant, but at 60 machines and because of much lower data transfer, will take more time
[16:22] <jrib> ak5: write a hello world php page I guess?
[16:22] <ak5> jrib, using a database?
[16:22] <jrib> ak5: sure
[16:22] <pybe> bidossessi, I have checked hosts resolv.conf interfaces firewall
[16:22] <bidossessi> ak5, install phpmyadmin
[16:22] <hasibullah> hello dears how can i make a network protocol with windows os
[16:22] <ak5> jrib, gah, ok I am trying to learn this stuff anyway :D Thx a bunch
[16:22] <bidossessi> pybe, what services are you trying ot access? a samba share?
[16:22] <leeping2008> coagen, my problem wasn't the starting window position (although that, too, is very useful)... it's just that running windows will lose their responsivity if I send them to the back with Ctrl + Z
[16:23] <mahidhar> DasEI: k
[16:23] <DasEI> mahidhar: least you have to rezise the 130 Gig then, but can once work with all machines, network setup would be next
[16:23] <leeping2008> However, if I run a process as a daemon, I have both the command line and control over the window
[16:23] <pybe> bidossessi, sharepoint, citrix, and some other stuff that uses domain.local aliases
[16:23] <bidossessi> ak5 install phpmyadmin. you will probably want to use it anyway. it's a php mysql admin tool
[16:23] <vexati0n> attn: Ubuntu devs: contrary to what you learned in "Ease of Use" class, you actually /don't/ know more about running my computer than I do. So please, stop implementing system services that ignore /etc/modprobe/blacklist. thanks.
[16:23] <hasibullah> how can i make a network protocol with windows os
[16:23] <leeping2008> I just wish I had a way to get the command line back from a running process as if I had run it as a daemon
[16:23] <ak5> bidossessi, ok, sure ty
[16:24] <bidossessi> leeping2008, set a higher loglevel, and tail -f the logfile
[16:24] <mahidhar> DasEI: kk
[16:25] <DasEI> mahidhar: maybe you should give the initial system a little bigger size, though copying takes longer then 15 or 20 gig,
[16:25] <ak5> bidossessi, ok, I installed it :) How can I use this to check now?
[16:25] <hal_v2> When I start the vidchat with skype I see myself,  then when the other person's video turns on mine goes away (as do all the buttons and options of the window) I need help, no clue what to do.
[16:25] <samanen> Do u play paintball 2 game? i have problems with it and wine!!
[16:25] <bidossessi> ak5, navigate to http://localhost/phpMyAdmin, if you used a system-wide install
[16:25] <tiyowan> ak5: You've got to access the phpmyadmin page from your browser,
[16:26] <Pici> !wine > samanen
[16:26] <Ward1983> bidossessi: ok i was not using unetbootin :)
[16:26] <DasEI> mahidhar:for root only, I never reached it, but all the tmp folders and possibly additional softs- who knows
[16:26] <samanen> ok
[16:26] <hato> ?
[16:26] <Ward1983> bidossessi: i used it now but one problem: i want to use my 100GB to install programs and copy data
[16:26] <k21> to install xchat command plz...
[16:27] <Ward1983> bidossessi: the built-in option in ubuntu allowed me to set how much room i wanted for software
[16:27] <bidossessi> Ward1983, your usb has a live system on it now?
[16:27] <leeping2008> bidossessi, I don't think that's what I want ... Here's an example.  When I run emacs (windowed) with a "&", I retain control over both emacs and my command line.  However, if I run emacs without the "&", I lose the command line, unless I use CTRL + Z, in which case I get the command line back but then emacs freezes until I type in "fg"
[16:27] <Ward1983> bidossessi: yep, but i cannot yet use my 100GB, its just like a liveCD atm
[16:27] <ak5> bidossessi, tiyowan, seems as though that file doesn't exist on my server in my /var/www/*/*
[16:27] <Ward1983> bidossessi: im not yet booted in it aswell
[16:27] <fosco_> k21, sudo apt-get install xchat
[16:27] <tiyowan> k21: sudo apt-get install xchat
[16:27] <Ward1983> bidossessi: should i first reboot into my newly made usb bootdisk?
[16:28] <bidossessi> Ward1983, that would seem sensible
[16:28] <robb_m> k21, or sudo aptitude install xchat, both work the same....
[16:28] <mahidhar>  DasEI: ya i have some other gud config system
[16:28] <Ward1983> bidossessi: ok just a few minutes, im going for a smoke aswell while im at it
[16:28] <bidossessi> leeping2008, use screen then
[16:28] <tiyowan> ak5: No experience with running PHP/MySQL on linux for me yet. :(
[16:29] <ak5> tiyowan, neither have I :) Thanks anyway!
[16:29] <bidossessi> ak5, do you get the proverbial "it works" from localhost?
[16:29] <leeping2008> bidossessi, I do use screen.  Thanks for the help. :)
[16:29] <KillGuta> Why isn't winetricks working for me?
[16:29] <bidossessi> ak5 i use it routinely, so maybe i can help
[16:29] <ak5> bidossessi, yes, and phpinfo() works as well too
[16:29] <DasEI> mahidhar: calculate it 60 x 10 min = 10h , don't overheat :D
[16:30] <bidossessi> ak5 where was phpMyAdmin installed to on your system?
[16:30] <ak5> bidossessi, now I am trying to figure out what apt-get install phpmyadmin did, to no avail :(
[16:30] <en0x> http://wklej.org/id/28370/
[16:30] <en0x> can someone take a look at it?
[16:30] <ikonia> ak5:  it install the website into your document root
[16:30] <en0x> i cant unmount swap partition
[16:31] <ak5> ikonia, I'm sorry?
[16:31] <pybe> bidossessi, I have the same settings in 3 boxes and its only this clean 8.10 install thats having issues, is there something thats changed on 8.10 that would not get changed in an upgrade rather than a clean install.
[16:31] <tiyowan> ak5: By default it should have installed in your www dir.
[16:31] <bidossessi> ak(, you would typically type http://localhost/phpMyAdmin to get it
[16:31] <ikonia> ak5 it installed teh phpmyadmin into your webservers document root
[16:31] <KillGuta> How do I install gecko on wine?
[16:31] <DasEI> mahidhar: though people often can't as they want, better way f would be to set you a few (small) machines up, figure it out and then start in the morning and let it run over night, but the circumstance are too thin here it seems to me
[16:31] <bidossessi> pybe, i really can't answer you there, intrepid is still on trial on my machine
[16:32] <hateball> en0xⅅ perhaps it's in use?
[16:32] <ak5> ikonia, seems that isn't the case:
[16:32] <pybe> bidossessi, cheers anyway
[16:32] <en0x> hateball: even if its in use I should be able to unmount it hateball
[16:33] <hateball> en0xⅅ Dunno then, works fine here...
[16:33] <en0x> hmm
[16:33] <en0x> swapoff -a -v helped
[16:33] <en0x> hmm
[16:33] <en0x> weird
[16:34] <vexati0n> so.. i killed my onboard audio and replaced it with a PCI card that works fine, except ALSA keeps loading the onboard audio first. how do i either make ALSA ignore the onboard card, or load it second and use the PCI as the primary one?
[16:34] <ikonia> en0x: please do a swapon -s
[16:34] <DasEI>  vexati0n: tried bios for first
[16:34] <bidossessi> vexati0n, can you disable your onboard card from the bios?
[16:34] <DASPRiD> vexati0n, why dont you just disable the onboard in your bios?
[16:34] <DasEI> ?
[16:34] <bidossessi> lool, talk about sync
[16:34] <DASPRiD> lol 3 guys same result ;)
[16:34] <vexati0n> DASPRiD: I did but Alsa still sees it.
[16:34] <TJ-42> where do I control which programs and daemons start during ubuntu startup?  I installed tor from the package manager, but don't want the tor daemon to start automatically with ubuntu, which it does currently.
[16:35] <tiyowan> Triple whammy. :-)
[16:35] <DasEI>  vexati0n: sys>preferences>default s-card ?
[16:35] <tiyowan> TJ-42: Sys -> Preferences -> Session
[16:35] <robb_m> someone rsynced those guys? :)
[16:35] <bidossessi> ak5 can you run a search for phpmyadmin ?
[16:36] <DasEI> TJ-42: you might also install :
[16:36] <vexati0n> what's REALLY great is, I put the driver module for the onboard card in the modprobe blacklist, but thanks to Ubuntu's fancy user-friendly features, it doesn't care and loads it anyway.
[16:36] <DasEI> !BUM
[16:36] <vexati0n> that makes me lol and lol.
[16:36] <TJ-42> tiyowan: I don't see it in the session startup programs
[16:36] <bidossessi> i'm more of an rpm person, does anyone know the equivalent to "rpm -ql package"?
[16:36] <agustin> how did i do to install ati drivers ver 8.12 in intrepid ibex
[16:36] <agustin> ???????
[16:36] <Raylz> vexati0n: ye, somehow you cant use it any more
[16:36] <LjjjL> bidossessi: perhaps if you tell me what it does...
[16:36] <TJ-42> DasEI: i'll check out bum
[16:36] <tiyowan> TJ-42: Then I'd go with BUM.
[16:36] <TJ-42> thanks DasEI and tiyowan
[16:37] <bidossessi> LjjjL, it lists all files installed by a package
[16:37] <agustin> helloo anyone can tell how to install ati 8.12 drivers in intrepid ibex???????????????
[16:37] <LjjjL> bidossessi: then dpkg -L packagename
[16:37] <Raylz> ver
[16:37] <tiyowan> agustin: The ATI drivers should show up in System -> Admin, -> Hardware Drivers
[16:37] <tarelerulz1> I want to play dvd on here ?  What do I need to do ?
[16:37] <vexati0n> Raylz: no... you're not paying attention. first, I killed the onboard audio somehow by daring to turn up the volume on the line-in jack. so the card is like physically dead. that's why I replaced it. but AFTER replacing it, ALSA refuses to let go.
[16:37] <DasEI> agustin: will hang on xorg 7.4 I gues
[16:37] <bidossessi> ak5 do "dpkg -L phpmyadmin" to see where your stuff went
[16:37] <vexati0n> ALSA is emotionally attached to my onboard audio, and I'm just trying to find some closure for it. you know.
[16:37] <Raylz> vexati0n: i recently joind :)
[16:38] <bidossessi> LjjjL, thanks
[16:38] <DasEI>  vexati0n: another try would be deleting the onboard driver
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> hi. i know one way to see my system's language setting is to do  echo "$LANG", anyting like that for the locale?
[16:38] <ak5> bidossessi, /var/lib apparently :/
[16:38] <PoE> I don't understand why it doesn't connect, because my other ubuntu box connects fine
[16:39] <vexati0n> DasEI - yeah, I thought of that, and then I thought "well, i could just put it in the modprobe blacklist, that would be the same as deleting it since it's a hard rule the kernel has to follow."
[16:39] <bidossessi> ak5, can you pastebin the result of that command? it should be a long list of files
[16:39] <robb_m> !Pastebin | ak5
[16:39] <Aberration> Yo
[16:39] <vexati0n> but apparently things like "absolute control over your system" are quaint in today's linux world.
[16:39] <robb_m> ^ just incase you didnt know it ak5 :)
[16:39] <ak5> bidossessi, what is the cli pastebin program for ubuntu? Gentoos was wgetpaste...
[16:40] <ql> bidossessi, wut
[16:40] <agustin> ohh
[16:40] <shirish> ak5: there is also something called pastebinit
[16:40] <DasEI> vexati0n: another try...;-)
[16:40] <agustin> thxs guys
[16:40] <LjjjL> ak5: pastebinit is one
[16:40] <ak5> thx
[16:40] <shirish> hi all, my hdd is giving me problems
[16:40] <shirish> I was told to do fsck manually
[16:40] <ninix> hi
[16:40] <tiyowan> shirish: What kind of problems?
[16:40] <ak5> bidossessi, http://pastebin.com/f20fa114f
[16:41] <robb_m> can you elaborate shirish ?
[16:41] <shirish> tiyowan:  The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[16:41] <shirish> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[16:41] <shirish> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[16:41] <shirish> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[16:41] <shirish>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[16:41] <FloodBot2> shirish: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <shirish> tiyowan: robb_m: please look above.
[16:42] <ninix> i'm wondering why i have some problem with ntpdate... on my server, here's what i have: :/home/httpd$ sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com $15 Dec 16:44:50 ntpdate[10188]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[16:42] <robb_m> shirish, didnt realize you were going to paste, sorry, just ignore that comment....but like FloodBot2 said, if its more than about 2 lines, please use pastebin.
[16:42] <ninix> any hint ?
[16:42] <ninix> the same command work well on my laptop
[16:42] <hasibullah> how can i install microsoft applications in u8.04
[16:43] <robb_m> !wine | hasibullah
[16:43] <Fenix|work> Greetings... need a hand with chroot failing
[16:43] <avinash> hi
[16:44] <Fenix|work> using chroot from kubuntu 8.1 livecd to chroot to my ubuntu 8.04 disk... I get the error :: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[16:44] <ak5> bidossessi, any ideas?
[16:44] <tavi> who help me to install a program?
[16:44] <ak5> tavi, what program?
[16:44] <shirish> robb_m: tiyowan: first I got this one http://pastebin.com/f439d2d98
[16:44] <tavi> bobot++
[16:44] <Aberration> tavi tell us a little more stuff about your problem man
[16:44] <bidossessi> ak5, sorry i'm at work, popped out there for a few. lemme scrool up and see
[16:44] <ikonia> Fenix|work: probably because either a.) bash can't get teh libraries it's linked against in your chroot b.) you don't have permissions to access them
[16:44] <ak5> bidossessi, ah sry :)
[16:44] <Heinrich> BUna seara
[16:45] <tavi> well on this site that i will give say something about a configure and compiling
[16:45] <shirish> robb_m: tiyowan: any idea guys?
[16:45] <Fenix|work> ikonia, chroot also fails with an 8.04 install as well... so I guess it's b)
[16:45] <Fenix|work> what's a workaround?
[16:45] <tavi> please help me to do those things good cause i crashed my pc once
[16:45] <tavi> ......
[16:45] <ikonia> Fenix|work: who are you chrooting as ?
[16:45] <Fenix|work> root
[16:45] <ikonia> Fenix|work: I assume your using the root user ?
[16:45] <ikonia> Fenix|work: show me what command your using /
[16:45] <tavi> http://pltplp.net/bobot++/
[16:45] <tavi> this is the site
[16:45] <Heinrich> tavi, tot nu ai rezolvat problema ta ?
[16:45] <bidossessi> ak5, can you look at your httpd includes to see if you have a phpmyadmin.conf there?
[16:46] <tavi> care man?
[16:46] <robb_m> shirish, i have absolutely no clue buddy...
[16:46] <avinash> hi
[16:46] <Fenix|work> ikonia, chroot /pu /bin/bash
[16:46] <tiyowan> shirish: Wait one. I'm looking into it.
[16:46] <Aberration> tavi then youll p^robably have to download the sources...
[16:46] <ak5> bidossessi, I didn't and I added it manually
[16:46] <tavi> no man
[16:46] <ak5> but... it still doesn't work
[16:46] <Aberration> tavi  a "tar.gz" file
[16:46] <Fenix|work> ikonia, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[16:46] <tavi> say something about a configure
[16:46] <avinash> hi any one want to chat with plz
[16:46] <robb_m> shirish, this was after you DID run fsck manually???
[16:46] <avinash> hello
[16:46] <tavi> i must configure that program
[16:46] <tavi> is an irc bot
[16:46] <Pici> tavi: What was wrong with the version of bobot++ that was in the repositories?
[16:46] <shirish> robb_m: that was before
[16:47] <bidossessi> ak5, so now your problem is solved right? you told it to use /usr/share/phpmyadmin as a location, right?
[16:47] <vladtsepesh1984> hi guys....what i have to do for add new sound theme??? i have downloaded it but now????  :D
[16:47] <robb_m> shirish, lets see the after result then please?
[16:47] <ikonia> Fenix|work: ls -la /pb/bin/bash
[16:47] <Aberration> tavi then you'll have to go into your directory "cd /home/YOURNAME/download/stuff.tar.gz"
[16:47] <ak5> bidossessi, ... sry for wasting your time, I think I needed to restart apache, right?
[16:47] <david_> onetinsoldier, ok well unfortunately now xfce will not work at all
[16:47] <avinash> hello
[16:47] <hasibullah> after installing wine i still have some problems
[16:47] <avinash> any one want to chat
[16:47] <Fenix|work> ikonia, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 813912 2008-05-12 18:36 /pu/bin/bash
[16:47] <Aberration> tavi is an IRC BOT???!
[16:47] <hasibullah> in runnig the microsoft applications
[16:47] <tavi> say to me when i installed and tring to start from terminal that i need to configure first
[16:47] <ikonia> avinash this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[16:48] <tavi> yes
[16:48] <tavi> an irc bot
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> david_: just take your time and you get it working with some help on here
[16:48] <ikonia> tavi read the documents ont he website it tells you what to do
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> david_: tell me what happenes?
[16:48] <Pici> tavi, ikonia: That package is in the repositories, use that one instead.
[16:48] <Aberration> Would someone KICK that damn tavi which is an IRC bot!
[16:48] <ikonia> Pici he clearly doesn't wnat
[16:48] <ikonia> want to
[16:48] <bidossessi> ak5, no problem. i'm learning as well on the differences between opensuse and ubuntu. you need to add some opetions there for the index file to be inde.php
[16:48] <ikonia> for some reason
[16:48] <avinash> ok
[16:48] <avinash> i am sorry
[16:48] <Pici> Aberration: He isn't a bot.  Hes trying to install a bot.
[16:49] <david_> onetinsoldier, sure, well it logs in, applications is missing and I get that error that my xession lasted for 10 min or seconds only and if I click ok it logs me out immediately from xfce
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> david_: have you just freshly booted up?
[16:49] <ikonia> Fenix|work: checking something
[16:49] <bidossessi> ak5, you seem to know your way around httpd conf files, can you do it.
[16:49] <david_> onetinsoldier,  yes
[16:49] <tavi> man first i need to do that thing right cause i crused once my pc
[16:49] <david_> onetinsoldier, im in blackbox right now
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> david_: ok.. good
[16:49] <Fenix|work> ikonia, thx
[16:49] <tiyowan> shirish: Do you get something about a bad magic number as well?
[16:49] <shirish> robb_m: tiyowan: the pastebin output after trying to run fsck manually from the CD http://pastebin.com/m56a7d024
[16:49] <david_> onetinsoldier, yea the kernel is good
[16:49] <bidossessi> ak5, index.php, not inde.php
[16:49] <avinash> what are we discussing
[16:49] <kneeki> How do I kill an application using terminal?
[16:49] <ikonia> tavi the website tells you what to do -
[16:49] <Aberration> Pici oh.... maybe... sorry
[16:49] <david_> onetinsoldier,  xfce is b0rked lol
[16:49] <ikonia> tavi: follow the website insturctions or use the pre-built but int he ubuntu repos
[16:49] <tavi> say to me like that download
[16:49] <ak5> bidossessi, hmm, look at this, please: http://pastebin.com/f6910fae5
[16:49] <onetinsoldier> david_: what version of ubuntu are you upgrading to?
[16:50] <ikonia> tavi download it then and follow the instructions
[16:50] <Aberration> Pici but when I ReAd "tavi is an IRC bot"... I tought...
[16:50] <david_> onetinsoldier, just doing daily or weekly update Im already running intrepid
[16:50] <ikonia> Fenix|work: thought ldd /pu/bin/bash please
[16:50] <shirish> tiyowan: yes, there was something about a bad magic number as well.
[16:50] <ak5> gah, it didn't have the whole message
[16:50] <onetinsoldier> david_: we can get xfce4 fixed.. it'll just take a little time
[16:50] <tavi> there  write to download then write in the console configure first
[16:50] <tiyowan> shirish: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-556905.html
[16:50] <bidossessi> ak5, ouch. maybe you have some typos in your confs. do you have a conf.d/ in your apache2 foder?
[16:50] <ikonia> Fenix|work: sorry "ldd /pu/bin/bash" - you'll need a pastebin
[16:51] <ikonia> tavi: READ the instructions on teh website
[16:51] <tavi> but i installed him already
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> david_: hmmm, i see
[16:51] <tavi> i didn wonload frim webpage
[16:51] <ak5> bidossessi, it says: apache2: Syntax error on line 284 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 16 of /usr/share/phpmyadmin/Documentation.html: Expected </link> but saw </head>
[16:51] <tavi> i didn donwload from webpage
[16:51] <ikonia> tavi: where did you download from ?
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> david_: what happens now if you run....   mandb
[16:51] <david_> onetinsoldier,  well, I'm trying to think would it be in dmesg?
[16:51] <Fenix|work> ikonia, http://rafb.net/p/MwoK2c42.html
[16:51] <tavi> i installed him from synaptic
[16:51] <ikonia> tavi: then read the instructions on the webpage
[16:51] <ikonia> tavi: then it's installed an ready to go then
[16:52] <tavi> no cause say about configure ....
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> david_: i doubt it, dmesg is pretty much hardware related messages, if i'm not mistaken
[16:52] <david_> onetinsoldier, same issue with language setup
[16:52] <tavi> that i must configure first
[16:52] <david_> onetinsoldier, I thought so just thought maybe
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> david_: what version of the locales package do you have?   dpkg -l locales
[16:52] <ikonia>  http://rafb.net/p/MwoK2c42.html
[16:52] <david_> onetinsoldier, mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[16:52] <ikonia> oops
[16:52] <shirish> tiyowan: this was a partition which I am using all the time
[16:53] <david_> onetinsoldier, ii  locales        2.7.9-5        common files for locale support
[16:53] <tiyowan> shirish: I can't find anything other than the link I gave you. Personally, I have no clue about fixing your problem.
[16:53] <ikonia> Fenix|work: is your live cd 32bit or 64bit
[16:53] <onetinsoldier> anyone here might know what david_ 's mandb error is about?
[16:54] <bidossessi> ak5, hmm, seems like phpmyadmin's installation is not well bootstrapped in ubuntu. and unfortunately, i gotta run to a meeting. but i'm sure some guru here can take it from there. good luck
[16:54] <onetinsoldier> david_: and output of   echo "$LANG" ?
[16:54] <ak5> bidossessi, thanks a lot!
[16:54] <Fenix|work> 64bit
[16:55] <Fenix|work> I think the problem is lib64 pointing to the livecd /lib
[16:55] <ikonia> Fenix|work: ahhh it's the symlinks !
[16:55] <david_> onetinsoldier, "en_US.UTF-8"
[16:55] <tiyowan> shirish: Try running fsck -y /dev/X where X is your partition. If that doesn't help. I'm all out of ideas.
[16:55] <DarkKnight> ikonia; thanx 4 helpin me out this morning...
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> david_: ok, that looks good
[16:55] <ikonia> Fenix|work: you just got the same thing I just got
[16:55] <ikonia> DarkKnight: not a problem
[16:55] <tiyowan> shirish: And please do this from a liveCD.
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> david_: still, just in case, do the following: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[16:56] <Fenix|work> ikonia, now I'm having difficulties making the link
[16:57] <alaoui> slut
[16:57] <DarkKnight> ikonia; hey is there a wy that we caan download all the required packages like anjuta, umbrello etc...along with gcc, g++, gcj, mysql....etc.... and use these packages on all systems....
[16:57] <ikonia> DarkKnight just open synaptic and click install on them
[16:57] <Fenix|work> ikonia, got it.
[16:57] <ikonia> !aptoncd > DarkKnight
[16:57] <alaoui> i have a probleme whith the navigator
[16:57] <ikonia> Fenix|work: ahhh well done
[16:57] <Fenix|work> ikonia, crap... still permission denied
[16:57] <shirish> tiyowan: I'm on the live CD
[16:58] <tiyowan> shirish: Right. Now do you know the name of your partition?
[16:58] <ikonia> Fenix|work: what directory are you launching chroot fro m?
[16:58] <alaoui> con you solution for mozilla
[16:58] <Fenix|work> ikonia, /
[16:58] <ikonia> Fenix|work: you should be good to go unless I'm missing something obvious
[16:59] <shirish> tiyowan: see http://pastebin.com/ma98bc53
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> can anyone help with this problem?  mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[16:59] <Fenix|work> ikonia, oops... have to reboot livecd ... just kibitzed /lib64 :)
[16:59] <david_> onetinsoldier,  I privd you the output with erros
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> david_: ok
[16:59] <snikpo> oh wow how did i get here lol
[17:00] <ikonia> Fenix|work: /pu/lib/libdl.so.2 /pu/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exist don't think
[17:00] <snikpo> it got me in the right chan the 1st time lol
[17:00] <Guest95077> ﻿how do i make kde4 show my desktop icons?
[17:00] <DarkKnight> ikonia; hey that's an excellent idea......vow man....
[17:01] <zoyaist> selamlar
[17:01] <Fenix|work> ikonia, once I reboot I'll check it out... but I think what I may end up having to do is link /pu/lib to /lib
[17:01] <Bundestrojaner> i just used the tool "unetbootin" to get the ubuntu 8.10-image on my hdd
[17:01] <Bundestrojaner> but i can't boot from it...
[17:01] <Bundestrojaner> i manually set the partition to bootable with fdisk
[17:01] <Bundestrojaner> what can i do?
[17:01] <tiyowan> shirish: Ah I think I know. Do this please: "fsck -y /dev/sdb7" and pastebin the results.
[17:02] <snikpo> How is XChat Gnome different from Xchat regular ?
[17:02] <tiyowan> snikpo: Fewer options. For one.
[17:02] <sinbox> what would be the chmod command to give ownership to userB on files in a directory in their home folder ?
[17:02] <nooooon> hi, can i have 1280x1024 screen resolution on ubuntu 8.04 running under virtualbox? bu installing guestadditions i got only 1024x768
[17:03] <snikpo> tiyowan: I just assumed it was a GUI thing
[17:04] <Bundestrojaner> is there a good tutorial for installing (K)Ubuntu from an USB drive?
[17:04] <DarkKnight> ikonia; hey u have lots of info abt ubuntu...u seem to be like an expert
[17:04] <shirish> tiyowan: I guessed it worked http://pastebin.com/m282f0d35
[17:05] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner , I htink it works the same way as with the Live CD
[17:05] <tiyowan> shirish: Sahi. Boot karo ab. :-)
[17:05] <leohartx> how do i remove all hidden files and folders in /home ?
[17:06] <shirish> tiyowan: hindi, indian?
[17:06] <Bundestrojaner> tARrAScH: the problem is, to get the iso bootable on my ext. hdd
[17:06] <MoLoot> leohartx: all files including hidden, or just hidden files?
[17:06] <sinbox> leohartx, why would you want to do that?
[17:06] <snikpo> is Avahi really needed for everyday home user??
[17:06] <tiyowan> shirish: Remove the LiveCD and boot into Ubuntu. Let us know whether it worked.
[17:06] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: tried editing a little bit in BIOS?
[17:06] <shirish> tiyowan: sure, thank you for all the help.
[17:06] <tiyowan> shirish: No problem.
[17:07] <leohartx> MoLoot: just hidden files
[17:07] <seeder122> hello, when I want to "migrate" from Kubuntu to Ubuntu all i have to do is to install ubuntu-desktop package from adept manager?
[17:07] <nbeebo> snikpo, avahi?
[17:07] <leohartx> sinbox : i want to reset all my systems
[17:07] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: every computer at startup prioties what to boot from. Usually external harddrives are below normal harddrives
[17:07] <DarkKnight> ikonia; i installed the aptoncd....but how do i use it
[17:07] <Bundestrojaner> tARrAScH: the PC knows the ext. hdd and boot option is set to removable
[17:08] <snikpo> nbeebo: yes, the DNS client in services - it's there by default, I assume
[17:08] <LjjjL> seeder122: you may certainly do that, although of course KDE will also stay installed
[17:08] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: So you've configured that it should boot from the USB?
[17:08] <Bundestrojaner> tARrAScH: the pc doesn't ignore the hdd, it says that it can't boot from...
[17:08] <seeder122> Thanks!
[17:08] <nbeebo> snikpo, i asked what it is... yes i can check if i got it
[17:08] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: Ok, Then I've no idea :). Are you sure you created the Boot-up disk the correct way?
[17:08] <Bundestrojaner> i used fdisk to set the partition as bootable
[17:09] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: that seems like hard
[17:09] <tARrAScH> Bundestrojaner: Tried using the GUI? It's a feature in 8.10
[17:09] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me how to use aptoncd
[17:09] <nbeebo> snikpa, i got avahi-deamon .. well good luck!! lol
[17:10] <snikpo> nbeebo: umm... ok?
[17:11] <bingungaja> hello, lotusnote 8.5 not working for ubuntu 64bit ? any solution for this ?
[17:11] <epswing> i have a VM sitting in a vmdk file, what does linux offer in terms of VM players?
[17:11] <snikpo> anyone know why I need "Multicast DNS Service Directory" in services for regular home PC user?
[17:12] <snikpo> and is it advisable to disable system logging ie. klogd / sysklogd
[17:12] <jimcooncat> snikpo: it's used for Avahi
[17:12] <tiyowan> snikpo: I don't think you ought to disable the logs.
[17:13] <genii> Without logging it makes it difficult to diagnose problems
[17:13] <snikpo> lol
[17:13] <snikpo> *looks up "Avahi"
[17:13] <leohartx> how do i remove all hidden files and hidden folders in /home ?
[17:13] <tARrAScH> Hello! I'm experiencing problems with gtk. When programs that has a list of many elements, it's rendering speed is extremely slow. For example in Rhythmbox, the many songs in my list takes too much time to display (too much to ever finnish). The reason is most likely that the list sorts itself after every single added entry! Normally it should sort and refresh the list once every second or...
[17:13] <tARrAScH> ...something. Anyone know a workaround?
[17:13] <jimcooncat> snikpo: Also called "Zeroconf networking". I haven't made sense of it myself and don't use it.
[17:14] <apadox> how to write script alias ? that will run several programs in one?
[17:14] <snikpo> Avahi: "Avahi allows programs to publish services that are available and to discover services that are available on other machines. As an example, a user could find local printers without needing to know their IP address, or which computers are publishing file shares. "
[17:15] <tiyowan> apadox: linuxcommand.org is a good introduction to shell scripting.
[17:15] <apadox> thx
[17:16] <peabody> I've got a question, I'm looking to upload via ftp new files that are added to a directory, but I want to also be able to filter exclusions... is there a good software for this, or am I going to have to script it?
[17:16] <jimcooncat> tARrAScH: how's your RAM usage?
[17:16] <snikpo> ...similar to OS X's Bonjour
[17:16] <snikpo> or NETBIOS
[17:16] <tARrAScH> jimcooncat: I think I have only up to a 1/3 used
[17:17] <hasibullah> asallam
[17:17] <hasibullah> hi everybody
[17:17] <david_> hey guys Im getting errors running dkpg- reconfigure locales, problems with perl and language
[17:17] <jimcooncat> tARrAScH: just looking for an obvious solution. I'm done :-)
[17:18] <snikpo> Zeroconf Networking: Zero Configuration Networking also enables activities such as music and photo sharing and automatic buddy discovery on Instant Messaging applications.
[17:20] <jimcooncat> peabody: gFTP has options like "Local->Change Filespec..." that may give you what you want.
[17:20] <hasibullah> does anyone know that how can we make a network protocool with windows
[17:20] <leohartx> how do i remove all hidden files and hidden folders in /home ?
[17:20] <DasEI>  hasibullah:tcp connection ?
[17:21] <fosco_> leohartx, do NOT do that, those hidden files are necessary
[17:21] <Bundestrojaner> tARrAScH: now i found the menu to select the boot device (there's an extra menu for the usb-boot)
[17:21] <dnyy> What is the command for the run dialog so I can add it to my ob menu?
[17:21] <hasibullah> yes
[17:21] <denier> anyone know what kind of encryption is used in an astaro l2tp over ipsec vpn?
[17:21] <tiyowan> leohartx: Not a good idea.
[17:21] <tARrAScH> leohartx - in nautilus, seartch for ".*"
[17:21] <snikpo> how to disable popup notifications in 8.10, like the network manager?
[17:21] <tARrAScH> leohartx - probably a bad idea, just giving you the instructions (search with ctrl+s)
[17:22] <jimcooncat> peabody: but if this is something you do often, you be better off scripting with rsync if your host lets you ssh in. Then you can put your exclusions in a file for rsync to use
[17:22] <DasEI>  hasibullah:connect via crossover, better switch, put in the same subnet and iprange = done
[17:22] <leohartx> fosco_ : i know, those file are my configuration and program data
[17:22] <DasEI> !samba | hasibullah
[17:22] <peabody> jimcooncat: it's ftp access only at this point
[17:22] <leohartx> fosco_ : but i want to reset all my config, importain things will be backed up :)
[17:23] <hasibullah> ok thanks i will do it now
[17:23] <leohartx> tiyowan : do u know how ?
[17:23] <hasibullah> i hope it work
[17:23] <fosco_> leohartx, easiest way, open your home folder in nautilus and press ctrl+H
[17:23] <leohartx> tARrAScH : i mean using command
[17:23] <DasEI>  hasibullah:feel free to ask again, but try yourself
[17:23] <tiyowan> leohartx: Umm...I don't think you'll be able to "reset" your config by deleting hidden files.
[17:23] <tARrAScH> leohartx: why do you have to do it the hard way ?
[17:24] <ShinobiTeno> Hello, I have a rather quick question. Now using Ubuntu Studio 8.04, is there any painless way to upgrade to 8.10 without reinstall?
[17:24] <hasibullah> yes why not
[17:24] <snikpo> how to disable popup notifications in 8.10, like the network manager one?
[17:24] <peabody> jimcooncat: basically I want sabnzbd to upload the extracted files onto my media server, but when I used curlftpfs to "Move completed to folder" and selected it as a mounted folder, it tries to copy ALL the downloaded files before extracting, and the performance is horrible
[17:24] <leohartx> tiyowan : all program config ( not default ) are stored in /home
[17:25] <david_> Im having a major problem with dpkg -reconfigure locales
[17:25] <david_> can anyone help me out?
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> i'm trying to help david_. he gets the following errors with dpkg-reconfigure locales....  perl: warning: Setting locale failed.  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:   LANGUAGE = ""en_US:en"",   LC_ALL = (unset),  LANG = ""en_US.UTF-8""  are supported and installed on your system.
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[17:25] <onetinsoldier> any ideas?
[17:25] <leohartx> tARrAScH: ah, my system configuration is mixed up, i just want to reset
[17:25] <ShinobiTeno> anyone?
[17:25] <tiyowan> leohartx: Hey, I'm not stopping you, buddy. If you know what you're doing, by all means go ahead.
[17:26] <hasibullah> DasEL: how can i install Dari Language in my computer
[17:26] <hasibullah> i tried alot
[17:26] <leohartx> tiyowan : ofcourse i do :), importain things will be backed up
[17:27] <tARrAScH> leohartx: still, is it not possible to use nautilus ? If not, you might wanna reinstall or something
[17:27] <Intrepid> I'm having a problem using the 'su' command to su to any user. (the passwords are set)
[17:27] <onetinsoldier> david_: what version is your perl?
[17:27] <jrib> Intrepid: pastebin
[17:27] <tiyowan> onetinsoldier: sudo locale-gen. Then, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[17:27] <Intrepid> one sec
[17:28] <peabody> jimcooncat: it's probably easiest to just rewrite the python function in sabnzbd to wait until the file is extracted to move it
[17:28] <leohartx> tARrAScH: absolutely not, i can do it with nautilus, but i want a cleaner way :) , i'll use it in recovery mode
[17:28] <PChaves> boas
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> tiyowan: ok, thank you
[17:28] <snikpo> how to disable popup notifications in 8.10, like the network manager one?
[17:28] <leohartx> tARrAScH: a litter risk, but ok for me
[17:28] <tARrAScH> leohartx: a cleaner?
[17:28] <jimcooncat> peabody: I *almost* figured out what you said. Sounds like you want to download something, extract files from it, and place the extracted files on a filesystem mounted by fuse. Am I close?
[17:28] <onetinsoldier> david_: try what tiyowan says...   sudo locale-gen
[17:29] <leohartx> tARrAScH: no i mean clean way
[17:29] <Intrepid> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1286025
[17:29] <PChaves> alguém me ajuda com partilha samba??
[17:29] <ShinobiTeno> How do you best migrate from 8.04(Hardy) to 8.10? Is there painless method??
[17:29] <Bundestrojaner> has someone here ubuntu on the eeepc?
[17:30] <achadwick> Bundestrojaner: plenty, myself included. Check out #ubuntu-eeepc too.
[17:30] <DasEI> Bundestrojaner:nope, but see :
[17:30] <DasEI> !eee
[17:30] <david_> onetinsoldier, ok
[17:30] <Ward1983> i just made my harddisk bootable with a tool i cannot remember the name of...
[17:30] <onetinsoldier> david_: that complete ok?
[17:30] <Bundestrojaner> achadwick: my question is, how the "power regulation" works on linux
[17:30] <onetinsoldier> david_: if so... sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[17:30] <Bundestrojaner> according to the manual, it has 3 steps on windows
[17:30] <jrib> Intrepid: are you using a non-default way to manage user accounts?
[17:31] <genii> Ward1983: "grub" ?
[17:31] <Ward1983> genii, no liek a usb stick
[17:31] <david_> waiting on the solution I found elsehwree I will try sudo locale -gen in a moment
[17:31] <Intrepid> jrib: Not that I know of. I added some custom groups but I don't believe I modified anything significant.
[17:31] <Ward1983> genii, its kindof a livecd on a harddisk or USB stick
[17:31] <Aph3x> Hey, my audio files are stuck on fast forward. In all players including spotify via wine
[17:31] <jimcooncat> peabody: you can use incron instead of programming a wait. Extract to a directory monitored by incron, then when a file gets done writing, incron can run a program against it (such as ftp'ing it to your server)
[17:31] <Aph3x> and rhythmbo
[17:31] <jrib> Intrepid: reset the password then
[17:31] <Ward1983> genii, same thing as System -> administration -> create usb startup disk
[17:31] <Intrepid> jrib: did that
[17:31] <Ward1983> genii, only that one didnt work so i had to use the other one
[17:32] <bazhang> Ward1983, unetbootin or usb-creator
[17:32] <genii> Ward1983: Maybe "unetbootin" or similar
[17:32] <Aph3x> can anyone help me out?
[17:32] <jrib> Intrepid: don't know then
[17:32] <Aph3x> no audio plays and it skips through the songs way too fast
[17:32] <DarkKnight> the  aptoncd  contains packages downloaded on 64-bit...can I use it on 32-bit type
[17:32] <Ward1983> genii, bazhang correct :D thanx
[17:32] <tiyowan> !ask | Aph3x
[17:33] <Ward1983> genii, bazhang i downloaded it from the livecd so i couldnt look it up
[17:33] <robb_m> tiyowan, he did ask
[17:33] <Intrepid> jrib: might you know which files a user needs to access besides su in order to do it?
[17:33] <tiyowan> Oops
[17:33] <david_> onetinsoldier, I have to restart x
[17:33] <robb_m> Tinyboom, look up :)
[17:33] <robb_m> err tiyowan
[17:33] <achadwick> Bundestrojaner: it's handled by the kernel and (I think) the standard power mgt utilities under Intrepid. Go to http://array.org/ubuntu/ for the kernel, for now. Further support → #ubuntu-eeepc
[17:33] <Ward1983> genii, bazhang now the only thing that i couldnt do was set how much space i wanted for isntalling software, etc
[17:33] <tiyowan> Aph3x: Have you installed all the codecs?
[17:33] <Bundestrojaner> achadwick: btw, do you use this special kernel for the eeepc?
[17:33] <geodatma1> Good evening, i want to print from commandline to a hp-jet networkprinter - how?
[17:34] <Aph3x> not sure tiyowan, it was working before though
[17:34] <DarkKnight> the  aptoncd  contains packages downloaded on 64-bit...can I use it on 32-bit type
[17:34] <Ward1983> genii, bazhang got any idea how to set that up? in system -> administration -> create usb startup disk it was just a slider but with unetbootin there was nothing to specify that
[17:34] <labo_a1> hi all
[17:34] <DarkKnight> the  aptoncd  contains packages downloaded on 64-bit...can I use it on 32-bit type
[17:34] <achadwick> Bundestrojaner: instructions at the site. If you have no network, use a USB drive to transfer the .deb.
[17:34] <labo_a1> have you mounted a shared folder using vboxfs file system ??
[17:34] <DasEI> DarkKnight:no
[17:35] <jrib> Intrepid: nope
[17:35] <Intrepid> okay, thanks then
[17:35] <tiyowan> Aph3x: What kind of files are you trying to play?
[17:35] <jrib> Intrepid: can you 'su' to your current main user?
[17:35] <nite_johnboy> Hi - I know that " dmesg " run in Terminal will give me a list of what is happening on boot - Is there something I can add to this command that would print this to a log file or .html file ? ?
[17:35] <badcat> greetings all.
[17:36] <Intrepid> jrib: initgroups: Operation not permitted
[17:36] <tiyowan> nite_johnboy: dmesg > filename.log ?
[17:36] <jrib> Intrepid: what did you get that from?
[17:36] <Intrepid> when i attempted to su to myself
[17:36] <earthmeLon> Hello everybody!!!  I am having two problems:  One is that Pidgin windows wont flash when I get a new msg, and IRSSI is not beeping/flashing on hilites.  The only thing IRSSI does is make the color of the nick of the person that hilites me different.  Any suggestions?
[17:37] <jrib> Intrepid: did it still work anyway?
[17:37] <onetinsoldier> david_: i have to go.. good luck. someone will help you i'm sure
[17:37] <nite_johnboy> tiyowan: Thank you - would this end up in my /home directory ?
[17:37] <cristi> tiyowan: the '>' operator generally does that or justfor the smesg function only ? i am asking because i want to learn to get along in ubuntu xD
[17:37] <geodatma1> any command-line-printing experts?
[17:37] <zimbres> I have a line like this in a Makefile "$(MAKE) -f plank.make cxx_doc clean" But I have no MAKE variable in my environment, is it not a default definition?
[17:37] <Intrepid> jrib: it seems that it did not work
[17:37] <jrib> Intrepid: "seems"?
[17:38] <earthmeLon> cristi  > tells ubuntu to put the output from the first command into the file.  so  ls > ls.txt would put ls's output to ls.txt
[17:38] <Intrepid> jrib: issuing the exit command after that closed the terminal
[17:38] <jrib> Intrepid: ok
[17:38] <cristi> earthmeLon: and where is that text saved?
[17:38] <tiyowan> nite_johnboy: It will if your current directory is home. Otherwise just use dmesg > /home/blah/filename.log
[17:38] <earthmeLon> cristi  to ls.txt
[17:38] <earthmeLon> cristi  COMMAND > FILE
[17:39] <tiyowan> cristi: > can be used with every command. It redirects output.
[17:39] <jrib> Intrepid: have you run any chmod/chown commands recently?
[17:39] <earthmeLon> cristi COMMAND >> FILE will append the output of COMMAND to the end of FILE
[17:39] <cristi> earthmeLon: i was referring to where is ls.text located
[17:39] <nite_johnboy> tiyowan: Thanks - Will do.
[17:39] <earthmeLon> Whatever directory you're currently in
[17:39] <cristi> earthmeLon: hah neat!
[17:39] <tarelerulz> Is there program for ripping dvd that rips all the audio , subtitles and chapters for the dvd ?  I try using OGMRip it failed like it has done the last to versoin of Ubuntu try it on ?
[17:39] <Intrepid> jrib: i have, but i believe they were not on any system directories
[17:39] <jrib> Intrepid: what did you run?
[17:39] <Intrepid> jrib: however, considering the problems i'm encountering, i may be mistaken about that
[17:40] <jrib> tarelerulz: maybe dvdbackup
[17:40] <jrib> !restricted > tarelerulz
[17:40] <cristi> earthmeLon: and if i wanted it to be saved somewhere else it would go like command > ~/my/own/path.txt ?
[17:40] <cows> youtube
[17:40] <android6011> when upgrading between major releases, is it better to just use apt and upgrade or just do a nwe full install?
[17:41] <Intrepid> jrib: as i can best recall, adding new groups for specific directories under /var/ and secondary drives
[17:41] <jrib> android6011: depends on what "better" means to you
[17:41] <fosco_> android6011, update-manager or fresh install whatever you need/want
[17:41] <android6011> jrib: whatever leaves less crap and clutter
[17:41] <jrib> Intrepid: ls -l /bin/su
[17:41] <tvaughn> how might i install X?
[17:41] <tarelerulz> jrib , i don't want to make on iso . I just want to make an .mkv  , avi .mp4 of it.   No program seems to do that .  That works for me
[17:41] <jrib> android6011: well I don't see how you can do better than a new install in that sense
[17:42] <android6011> thats what i figured
[17:42] <jrib> tarelerulz: I didn't tell you to make an iso
[17:42] <Intrepid> 755 root:root
[17:42] <jrib> Intrepid: paste the actual line
[17:42] <Intrepid> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 32K  /bin/su
[17:42] <android6011> if i max out laptop at 4 gigs then would i be better of with 64 bit?
[17:43] <jrib> android6011: check if you 64bit will cause any issues for you first
[17:43] <jrib> android6011: (ie try a live cd)
[17:43] <android6011> jrib: it hasnt in the past, just wondering if it will make that much of a difference
[17:43] <jrib> android6011: you won't be able to see all 4gb without the 64bit version
[17:43] <tarelerulz> Have any of you rip you own dvd to an files . Not an iso ? if so what you use ?
[17:43] <jimcooncat> android6011: yes, 32 bit can only see 3.2 GB of your 4 installed (or so)
[17:44] <android6011> ok thanks for all the info guys
[17:44] <jrib> tarelerulz: I told you already what I use and I linked you to the wiki page with a few more options...
[17:44] <tvaughn> how might i install X? im wanting to use conky im new in linux
[17:44] <Ranakah> 32 bit can se max 4GB of ram... if your graphic card have 512MB then can use only 3.5GB of ram
[17:44] <jrib> tvaughn: how did you install ubuntu?
[17:44] <brenojac> hello, please, I would like to know how can I access Ubuntu 7.04 repositories, as they seem to have been removed from their original place: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty
[17:44] <tvaughn> live cd
[17:44] <|unjustice|> hi... can someone tell me where I screwed up this command?
[17:44] <|unjustice|> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /home/unjustice/SanAndreas/Grand Theft Auto IV - Disc 2.iso /media/cdrom0/
[17:44] <jrib> tvaughn: do you have a GUI now?
[17:44] <|unjustice|> oh\
[17:44] <|unjustice|> quotes
[17:44] <FloodBot2> |unjustice|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:44] <|unjustice|> nvrmd
[17:44] <tvaughn> gnome
[17:44] <jrib> tvaughn: you already have X
[17:44] <brenojac> any idea?
[17:45] <|unjustice|> hmmmm
[17:45] <tvaughn> when i tried to make use conky it said it couldnt detect it?
[17:45] <jrib> tvaughn: how did you try to use it?
[17:45] <tvaughn> ive been trying to figure out how to configure it
[17:45] <tvaughn> hang on im gonna start it from scratch
[17:45] <lera_zed> leonel: hello ?
[17:45] <jrib> tvaughn: the conky site has decent documentation on configuring it
[17:45] <tarelerulz> jrib, you really use command line program to rip a dvd. I  end up use stuff from trancoder .  I would like to use some gui .  handbrake works well ,but missing some features
[17:46] <jrib> tarelerulz: the wiki lists several guis
[17:46] <tvaughn> to unzip in terminal its tar?
[17:46] <jrib> tvaughn: to unzip, it's unzip
[17:46] <cristi> can anyone help me with some networking problem? i am having trouble seeing another ubuntu computer in my network. I can see it with a windows computer though
[17:46] <trancefat> how do i access my phone using bluetooth... i have found the device in the bluetooth preferences
[17:46] <jrib> tvaughn: you aren't trying to compile conky are you?
[17:46] <trancefat> i just dont know where do i access it
[17:46] <tvaughn> i might be
[17:47] <tvaughn> not even sure
[17:47] <tvaughn> is there a precompiled version somewhere...
[17:47] <jrib> Intrepid: are you sure that's right?  Why isn't it setuid?
[17:47] <Intrepid> jrib: what is setuid?
[17:47] <cristi> trancefat: hav you tried to right click the bluetooth icon and click browse device?
[17:47] <jrib> tvaughn: yes, in the repositories.  Use synaptic
[17:47] <tvaughn> ohhh
[17:47] <jrib> Intrepid: it's a permission
[17:47] <tvaughn> i found it on sourceforge
[17:48] <tvaughn> lol
[17:48] <trancefat> cristi: i cannot get the bluetooth icon
[17:48] <jrib> tvaughn: every time you want to install something, go to the repositories
[17:48] <thseiler> join #openmoko-cdevel
[17:48] <tvaughn> it has everything?
[17:48] <cristi> trancefat: so, you do not have a bluetooth manager?
[17:48] <thseiler> sorry
[17:48] <jrib> tvaughn: almost everything, yes
[17:48] <trancefat> cristi: do you know how i can get it in th taskbar... i have set the preferences to show always but it dounes
[17:48] <tvaughn> ill get used to this eventually
[17:48] <mjwolf> hi.  I'm 8.10 and cannot get 3d graphics working with the intel video chip (945GM/PM/GMS)  glxinfo shows direct rendering: Yes.  Any ideas of what I need to tweak?
[17:48] <earthmeLon> Hello everybody!!!  I am having two problems:  One is that Pidgin windows wont flash when I get a new msg, and IRSSI is not beeping/flashing on hilites.  The only thing IRSSI does is make the color of the nick of the person that hilites me different.  Any suggestions?
[17:48] <trancefat> cristi: maybe
[17:48] <tvaughn> thanks for the help ill let you know if i encounter anymore problems
[17:49] <Intrepid> jrib: does that refer to the second group being a user group instead of root?
[17:49] <jrib> Intrepid: no
[17:49] <cristi> trancefat: are you sure the bluetooth is on, because mine worked like this without installing anything special
[17:49] <DasEI> earthmeLon: pidgin: plugins & preferences
[17:49] <Ward1983> how can i speicify a size with unetbootin, i would love to have some room left to install stuff, i prepared a partition of about 100GB
[17:49] <jrib> Intrepid: I'm asking if you have an idea why it is like that before we set it back
[17:49] <DasEI> earthmeLon: #pidgin is there , too
[17:49] <trancefat> cristi: yes its on... just th icon wont show u[
[17:50] <Intrepid> jrib: i am uncertain
[17:50] <jrib> Intrepid: chmod u+s /bin/su
[17:50] <tiyowan> cristi: linuxcommand.org is a good introduction to shell scripting btw. Did you ask about the > operator?
[17:50] <tvaughn> one last thing? where can i find the docs for configuring it
[17:50] <cristi> trancefat: i don't know how to help you, it's odd
[17:50] <Intrepid> jrib: thank you, worked
[17:50] <jrib> tvaughn: the conky website
[17:50] <trancefat> cristi: thanks anyways
[17:50] <cristi> tiyowan: yes i did. thank you!
[17:51] <Intrepid> i'll read some more about these permissions i'm not familiar with
[17:51] <Joooon> lo all
[17:51] <tvaughn> conky.sourceforge.net ?
[17:51] <kneeki> Anyone recommend some software which will allow me to burn .wmv's to a DVD disk?
[17:51] <jrib> tvaughn: yep
[17:51] <tvaughn> ohh
[17:51] <jrib> tvaughn: there might be some info on help.ubuntu.com/community as well
[17:51] <tvaughn> i had that before but i downloaded th source instead
[17:51] <earthmeLon> DasEI, thanks for the help.  Im looking through pref's and don't see anything about flashing
[17:51] <tvaughn> thanks
[17:52] <tiyowan> tvaughn: There's a *huge* thread on the ubuntu forums about configuring conky.
[17:52] <tvaughn> its as a window isnt it supposed to be part of the desktop?
[17:52] <dnyy> I made my panel transparent and small as possible, and now I can't click it to add stuff.  Is there another way to edit panel settings? :(
[17:52] <jrib> tvaughn: depends how you configure it
[17:52] <tvaughn> oh ok
[17:52] <ToddEDM> hey guys.. i was just thinking / wondering if you guys might know of different derivatives of Ubuntu, besides the official ones...
[17:52] <tvaughn> ill go read
[17:53] <Joooon> Can anyone gimme offer any help setting up playing commercial DVDs? I've followed the tutorial and still no joy.
[17:53] <Marfi> ToddEDM, could try medibuntu
[17:53] <tiyowan> tvaughn: Hang on.
[17:53] <lesshaste> how do you turn off touchpad tapping?
[17:53] <lesshaste> synclient has a lot of options
[17:53] <ToddEDM> Marfi:  anymore?
[17:53] <tvaughn> lesshaste, mouse?
[17:53] <lesshaste> tvaughn, on a laptop
[17:53] <tiyowan> tvaughn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&highlight=conky - There ya go.
[17:53] <jrib> Joooon: you installed libdvdcss2?
[17:53] <kise> Anyone know how to turn of gnome-panel, without deleting the panel?
[17:53] <tvaughn> lesshaste,  i know its under mouse
[17:53] <tvaughn> lol
[17:53] <Marfi> ToddEDM, thats just the popular one that comes to mind. its geared toward media. another popular one is arch linux, and i think thats based off of ubuntu
[17:53] <lesshaste> tvaughn, what do you mean?  Don't I use synclient?
[17:53] <Joooon> yeh - https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd I basically followed that, and it still isn't working
[17:53] <DasEI> earthmeLon:mind pm you ?
[17:53] <cristi> tiyowan: hah, it's a really neat site, i'll look into it. thank you
[17:54] <ToddEDM> Mint is based on Ubuntu aswell , yes?>
[17:54] <tvaughn> if i remember correctly i saw it under system prefs mouse
[17:54] <Pretto> why the feisty repository is not listed here http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ?
[17:54] <jrib> !feisty | Pretto
[17:54] <tiyowan> cristi: You're welcome.
[17:54] <jrib> Pretto: upgrade to a supported release
[17:55] <Pretto> jrib, I just wanna know why the main repository for feisty is not there?
[17:55] <Pici> Pretto: It is no longer supported.
[17:55] <jrib> Pretto: I just told you why.  feisty is EOL.  It is no longer supported
[17:55] <lesshaste> how do you turn off touchpad tapping?
[17:55] <tiyowan> Pretto: Because Feisty is no longer supported.
[17:55] <Pretto> jrgp, Pici thank you
[17:56] <Joooon> jrib: I basically followed as per https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/musicvideophotos/C/video.html#video-dvd but it still hasn't worked, ive installed vcl, gxine, mplayer, no joy :(
[17:56] <tiyowan> lesshaste: System -> Pref. -> Mouse. Go to the Touchpad tab. Disable options at will.
[17:56] <kd8bxp> Can anyone here answer some questions about the PowerPC version (8.10)?
[17:56] <jrib> Joooon: pastebin: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[17:56] <jrib> kd8bxp: ask and find out :)
[17:57] <lat> I'm using the number keys on my keyboard to control the cursor. I have speed set to as fast as is allowed in Keyboard Preferences, but that is far too slow. Is there any way to speed up cursor movement?
[17:57] <lesshaste> tiyowan, my system doesn't have preferences.. I am in xubuntu
[17:57] <cvtnix> watching videos on cnn.com makes firefox crash.  how can i fix it?
[17:57] <tiyowan> lesshaste: In that case, the folks over in #xubuntu should be able to help you out.
[17:58] <lesshaste> tiyowan, ok
[17:58] <kd8bxp> Ok, - I have two Imac 15" screens (PowerPC G4) machines, both are running very slow after the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 - both are 700mhz, have 256mb ram (one has a 40gb hard drive the other 100gb hard drive) - my quesiton is do I have a memory problem or is there something I can do to optimize the install?
[17:58] <tarelerulz> There seem to be few rippers that have all the nice features.  it seem like people don't want to really do much.  Maybe audio , english and xvide in .avi .  I mean for being all about open source stuff.  A lot of the program really don't use them well at all.  mkv or ogg should be in ever open source ripper .
[17:59] <jrib> tarelerulz: sounds like a project waiting to happen :)
[17:59] <tvaughn> where is the conf for conky?
[17:59] <Joooon> jrib: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2 doesn't seem to have worked..unless im just stupid or something lol
[17:59] <tiyowan> tarelerulz: Code's open buddy. :-) Add what you wish.
[18:00] <lesshaste> tiyowan, ok I found it... I don't see "turn off tapping" sadly
[18:00] <jrib> Joooon: what happened exactly?
[18:00] <jrib> tvaughn: ~/.conkyrc
[18:00] <tvaughn> ~/ indicates>
[18:00] <jrib> tvaughn: /home/tvaughn
[18:00] <Joooon> jrib: it installed something, but it still doesnt work on gxine
[18:00] <simpleos> hey, where's the Ubuntu source code?
[18:00] <cvtnix> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/12/15/ny.gov.upset.with.snl.cnn why does this page make my browser crash?
[18:01] <jrib> Joooon: it shouldn't have installed anything.   It just gives you information that I need to see
[18:01] <tiyowan> tvaughn: You've got to make your own first. /home/name/.rcconky
[18:01] <SpareX> buffer I/O err on device SR0, logical block 178897, trying to install ubunt 8.10 on old computer
[18:01] <tvaughn> ohhh
[18:01] <tvaughn> just .rcconky?
[18:01] <tiyowan> tvaughn: Yep.
[18:01] <jrib> tvaughn: I use .conkyrc so both may work
[18:01] <simpleos> so where is the Ubuntu source (not the kernel, I've got that.)
[18:01] <Joooon> jrib: oh right i get you, it says intalled 1.2.5-1 , then has 100 /car/lib/dpkg/status
[18:01] <lesshaste> jrib, hi.. I did all that configuring we talking about before... but now I look at it does synclient even let you turn off tapping?
[18:01] <jrib> !source > simpleos
[18:01] <tarelerulz> jrib, it would not make me so mad if say ormrip working on any of my systems.  The hot part is the site don't really have an fourms or any really infor . The error I get it unknown which is so hot.  Seem if you really want it done with advanced feature . then command is the only way  and put together really rip
[18:02] <tvaughn> dumb cat brb
[18:02] <jrib> Joooon: eject the dvd and insert it again
[18:02] <lesshaste> jrib, I can turn off the whole touchpad with it.. but that's not what I want
[18:02] <tiyowan> !source > tiyowan
[18:02] <jose> como se llama el emulador de n64
[18:02] <jrib> lesshaste: I don't know.  It's definitely configurable directly in the files though
[18:02] <jrib> !es | jose
[18:03] <Marfi> when ubuntu first boots up to the splash screen, what file does it read the info for the video driver?
[18:03] <lesshaste> jrib, ok gsynaptics let me do it now.. now I just have to work out how to make the permanent
[18:03] <jimcooncat> !source >jimcooncat
[18:04] <jrib> !msgthebot | tiyowan, jimcooncat
[18:04] <Slart_> does anyone have any suggestions for presentation software that looks nicer than openoffice impress which I find a bit .. flat and boring
[18:04] <tvaughn> im getting an error
[18:04] <lesshaste> Slart_, keynote on the mac :)
[18:04] <Joooon> jrib: still no joy im afraid mate :(
[18:04] <kise> How can i turn of the gnome-panel
[18:04] <tvaughn> # UBUNTU-CONKY
[18:04] <tvaughn> # A comprehensive conky script, configured for use on
[18:04] <tvaughn> # Ubuntu / Debian Gnome, without the need for any external scripts.
[18:04] <tvaughn> #
[18:04] <tvaughn> # Based on conky-jc and the default .conkyrc.
[18:04] <FloodBot2> tvaughn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <tvaughn> # INCLUDES:
[18:05] <fosco_> Slart_, try koffice
[18:05] <Slart_> lesshaste: arghh... knife turning.. in ... wound.. ;)
[18:05] <lesshaste> Slart_, :)
[18:05] <jrib> Joooon: I have to go, but try 'mplayer dvd://1' and pastebin the output for people to see.  Also try other discs.
[18:05] <jimcooncat> thanks jrib, I tried /msg ubottu source and it didn't work. Now I know.
[18:05] <jrib> Slart_: latex :)
[18:05] <lesshaste> Slart_, google has a cheapo powerpoint clone online that is free
[18:05] <jpastore> how would I add something to the application menu? actually is there a good howto on using gpg and evolution to replace what Ihave with outlook and pgp?
[18:05] <Joooon> jrib: ok will do cheers mate
[18:05] <lesshaste> Slart_, latex/beamer is what I use but that's for mathematical stuff
[18:06] <Slart_> fosco_: hmm.. koffice.. will try that.. thought it was pretty much the same as openoffice
[18:06] <jrib> jimcooncat: ah, yeah, do: /msg ubottu !source
[18:06] <lesshaste> Slart_, I think you will be best off configuring impress to make it more interesting
[18:06] <Slart_> jrib: latex is nice.. but I doubt it is right for presentation.. =)
[18:06] <fosco_> Slart_, just try, i don't know what you're looking for, openoffice is good for me
[18:06] <jrib> Slart_: checkout beamer
[18:06] <Slart_> lesshaste: mm.. guess it's only as good as the operator =)
[18:06] <lesshaste> Slart_, try an openoffice channel and ask how to configure impress to make it more interesting
[18:07] <lesshaste> Slart_, :)
[18:07] <ardchoille> I'd like to promote Ubuntu on my website. Where can I find a suitable graphic and is there any problem with me displaying it on my site?
[18:07] <Intrepid> ardchoille: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[18:07] <Slart_> jrib: I'll take a look at beamer again.. it was some time ago
[18:08] <angel_> Hello just want to ask how can i see the mac address on ubuntu?
[18:08] <Ward1983> i used unetbootin on a partition of about 100GB, but if i rightclick on "Filesystem" in nautilus it says i only have 800MB free
[18:08] <ardchoille> Intrepid: Thank you
[18:08] <Ward1983> how can that be explained please?
[18:08] <Intrepid> no problem
[18:08] <Slart_> angel_: ifconfig
[18:08] <Ward1983> how do i utilise the rest?
[18:08] <azerty> hi
[18:08] <Slart_> angel_: it's somewhere in that big chunk of text
[18:08] <tarelerulz> Do any of you rip movies. Is just a iso or .avi and that is it? really that is all I have ever gotten to work. Every thing else fails
[18:08] <Sooke> Hi all
[18:08] <angel_> where at?
[18:09] <Sooke> How can I access to the network drives in a VPN connection thtought Ubuntu?
[18:09] <Sooke> (I know their names but no IPs)
[18:09] <Ward1983> angel_, jsut type ifconfig in a terminal
[18:09] <lesshaste> Slart_, draw some pretty pics and put in a rotating 3d image :)
[18:09] <lesshaste> Slart_, then everyone will be happy
[18:09] <Ward1983> angel_, it will output information about each of your networking interfaces
[18:09] <Slart_> angel_: it's just after "HWaddr"
[18:09] <tvaughn> conky is giving me an error
[18:09] <Ward1983> angel_, among that information is your MAC adress
[18:09] <Slart_> lesshaste: hehe.. dazzle them with the cube.. =)
[18:10] <Joooon> ok, so trying to get my DVD to work i get "Playing dvd://1.
[18:10] <Joooon> Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd
[18:10] <Joooon> No stream found to handle url dvd://1"  -can anybody help at all?
[18:10] <lesshaste> Slart_, exactly :)
[18:10] <LeChacal> hello, I am having a problem with a second hdd not auto-mounting on start up. It is NTFS formated, and has an entry in fstab. I looked in syslog and it looks like it gets mounted but isnt when GNOME comes up. It used to auto-mount and nothing has changed. Does anyone have suggestions?
[18:10] <marcos__> hello, is possible to run a windows network program using the wine libraries?
[18:10] <DasEI>  Ward1983: look up in gparted where the rest has gone ?unallocated ?
[18:10] <lesshaste> marcos_, posssible but unlikely
[18:10] <lesshaste> marcos_, some things sort of work in wine.. what is the app?
[18:10] <angel_> oh im looking at it but im not sure which one is for mac address
[18:10] <Sooke> In Win I used to do: //computer_name/share_name, but what about Ubuntu?
[18:11] <DasEI> marcos_if the app is more api36, yes
[18:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, no its still just liek i partitioned it :s
[18:11] <lesshaste> Sooke, you are trying to find a mounted drive?
[18:11] <marcos__> is a old app, but
[18:11] <ardchoille> Intrepid: Those are quite large, too large for my sidebar. Isn't there an Ubuntu logo that is smaller, like a "Get Ubuntu" logo?
[18:11] <DasEI>  Ward1983:open a terminal...
[18:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, gparted in fact says 93.32GB free
[18:11] <marcos__> DaesEI: what is api36??
[18:11] <Sooke> lesshaste, I am in a VPN connection now (my office network), and I want to connect to a network drive
[18:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, done
[18:11] <lesshaste> LeChacal, can you still mount it manually?
[18:12] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:12] <lesshaste> Sooke, and you are running ubuntu? you will have to ask your sysadmin how to mount the network drive
[18:12] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[18:12] <lesshaste> Sooke, most likely using smbclient
[18:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, lol niiiice i didnt know that existed
[18:12] <jimcooncat> Sooke: From the menu, Places -> Connect to Server..., then for Service type: "Windows share" or click the Browse Network button
[18:12] <DasEI>  Ward1983:give url from terminal here
[18:12] <marcos__> is a small app, who connect to a local network unit
[18:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, veeeery usefull
[18:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, will do
[18:12] <Intrepid> ardchoille: one moment, i'll check
[18:12] <tvaughn> Conky: statfs '/mnt/slack': No such file or directory what does this mean?
[18:13] <LeChacal> lesshaste: yes i can still mount manually, only under command line, used to be able to do it with GNOME also
[18:13] <Sooke> jimcooncat, but in windows share there are so many params, I used to to know in windows only computer name, share name and my loing and password
[18:13] <DasEI> marcos_ : a win-based standard, small apps like ie often run, see #winehq  or google wine > appdb
[18:13] <Intrepid> ardchoille: well there are these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[18:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, Error no arguments specified!
[18:13] <jimcooncat> Sooke: click the Browse Network button at bottom of that
[18:14] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo fdisk -l > pastebinit
[18:14] <ardchoille> Intrepid: Those are perfect :)
[18:14] <Sooke> jimcooncat, done, empty
[18:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, Error no arguments specified!
[18:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, Required arguments:
[18:14] <Ward1983> 	-i <filename> (or pipe the text)
[18:14] <Ward1983> thats the only required
[18:15] <Ward1983> :s
[18:15] <tvaughn> im confused :(
[18:15] <Sooke> jimcooncat, the window is empty, no drives there. I can ping all the computers in the VPN network, but somehow I cant resolve their names; ALso the server is a WIn based
[18:15] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo fdisk -l > fdi.txt && pastebinit fdi.txt && rm fdi.txt
[18:15] <Ward1983> lol
[18:15] <sxp> hi. How can I create environment variables like $HOME in bash?
[18:16] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f1c16a59f
[18:16] <chris____> hi, i am following a tutorial to remote unlock my encrypted machine via ssh:
[18:16] <chris____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=829768
[18:16] <scampbell> sxp:  export var=value
[18:17] <DasEI>  Ward1983:goes about the 1 TB ?
[18:17] <tvaughn> is someone here really good with conky?
[18:17] <sxp> scampbell: thanks
[18:17] <Slart_> !anyone | tvaughn
[18:17] <jimcooncat> Sooke: wish I knew more; I just have a small peer network at the office, and maybe yours uses a directory. If no one else here can help, maybe ask in #samba or #gnome
[18:17] <Sooke> I GOT IT XDDDDD
[18:17] <Sooke> jimcooncat, I got it
[18:17] <Ward1983> DasEI, /dev/sde is the one
[18:18] <tvaughn> i need help configuring conky
[18:18] <jimcooncat> Sooke: how?
[18:18] <chris____> my problem is setting up dhcp in the initramdisk. i have added dhclient3 and dhclient-script but i get the error message execve(/sbin/dhclient-script, ...) not found. but cat /sbin/dhclient-script works
[18:18] <Ward1983> DasEI, that NTFS partition existed at first but i resized and moved it to the back
[18:19] <Ward1983> DasEI, but its still /dev/sde1 because it existed before the rest
[18:19] <Sooke> jimcooncat, just  figured out the ip of the server, then I opened a new server connection, "Windows Share", then I put into: Server (the IP), Share(Empty), Folder (the share name I already know), domain (empty), user (my user), and it connected and I have all the remote folders ehre
[18:19] <fahmi> bonjour je souhaite me connecter en reseau wifi mais je n'arrive pas
[18:19] <fahmi> pourriez vous m'aider svp
[18:19] <fiver22> any final fantasy/dragon warrior games for *nix out there? -I'm running Ubuntu
[18:19] <tvaughn> i found someones conkyrc on the ubuntu forums, i tried using it and it gave me an error Conky: statfs '/mnt/slack': No such file or directory
[18:19] <tvaughn>  any idea how i can fix it?
[18:19] <Slart_> !fr | fahmi
[18:20] <HighLow> fahmi --> va sur le ubuntu-fr :)
[18:20] <chris____> does anybody have experience in setting up a initramdisk?
[18:20] <Sooke> jimcooncat, since the names resolve is not possible, the tricky issue here is to find out the IP of the name your network administrator usually gives you
[18:20] <Slart_> tvaughn: it tries to show free space on the drive mounted in /mnt/slack, you probably don't have a drive mounted there
[18:20] <tvaughn> ohh
[18:20] <ganeshredcobra> hello i just installed kde4 in my ubuntu desktop where to find the screen shot tool in this
[18:20] <Slart_> tvaughn: I recommend reading through the man page for conky.. or the online docs.. there are quite a few commands in there
[18:21] <tvaughn> ok thanks
[18:21] <jimcooncat> Sooke: thanks, I'm always trying to learn
[18:21] <Sooke> jimcooncat, try to do it , I had to ping netbios randomly to all the 2-20 ips jus to find out the server
[18:21] <DasEI>  Ward1983:so which space do you miss there ? the most is in windows
[18:22] <Sooke> jimcooncat, my amdinistrator jus told me the human network name of the server, but not the IP,
[18:22] <Ward1983> DasEI, correct, that was what i meant to do, i tend to use the NTFS partition for data for linux and windows
[18:22] <Ward1983> DasEI, the 100GB should be for linux
[18:22] <Ward1983> linux only
[18:22] <Ward1983> ext3
[18:23] <Ward1983> DasEI, but... if i rightclick filesystem.... it says 800MB free
[18:23] <DasEI> is there, Ward1983
[18:23] <Ward1983> 800MB is a ton of difference with 93GB
[18:23] <DasEI>  Ward1983:mount | pastebinit
[18:23] <tvaughn> ok is there a way to make the conky window not disappear when i hit the show desktop button
[18:23] <Marfi> "failed to initialize HAL" how can i fix this?
[18:23] <heret1c> 'lo .-)
[18:24] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f7d0f4ff7
[18:24] <fahmi> et comment je me connecte sur ubuntu-fr
[18:24] <jimcooncat> Sooke, using Nautilus I typed smb://10.0.0.7 and I see the share on my work machine
[18:24] <fahmi> aidez moi svp
[18:25] <bazhang> fahmi, /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:25] <BTuser> premier mot en français :D
[18:25] <DasEI>  Ward1983:looks like your fstab is wrong after attaching drive, sde2 is currently your cdrom > 800 mb :D
[18:25] <ganeshredcobra> which is the snapshot tool in ubntu
[18:25] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo umount /dev/sde2
[18:26] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo mkdir /mnt/linux
[18:26] <|unjustice|> hey, sorry...I am still having trouble with mounting from cdrom0
[18:26] <|unjustice|> unjustice@vajmonster:~/SanAndreas$ sudo mount -t iso9660 -o /home/unjustice/SanAndreas/ "Grand Theft Auto_San Andreas.iso" /media/cdrom0
[18:26] <tvaughn> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17956&d=1161470797 why is mine not completely transparent like this?
[18:26] <Ward1983> DasEI, you are aware that i used unetbootin right? i dunno how that stuff works maybe it has something to do with that
[18:26] <|unjustice|> not sure what I mistyped
[18:26] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo mount /dev/sde2 -t ext3 /mnt/linux
[18:26] <jimcooncat> ganeshredcobra: hard drive snapshot? screen snapshot? there are several things called "snapshot"
[18:27] <Ward1983> DasEI, "mount point /mnt/linux does not exist"
scrren snap shot
[18:28] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo mkdir /mnt/linux
[18:28] <DasEI> ^
[18:28] <tarelerulz> any of you try dvd::rip ?
[18:28] <|unjustice|> yeah
[18:28] <|unjustice|> I like acidrip better
[18:28] <Marfi> "failed to initialize HAL" how can i fix this?
[18:28] <DasEI> tarelerulz: k3b does
[18:28] <Ward1983> DasEI, mount: /dev/sde2 already mounted or /mnt/linux busy
[18:28] <Ward1983> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sde2 is mounted on /cdrom
[18:28] <jimcooncat> ganeshredcobra: a simple one is shown when you press Print Screen button
[18:28] <heret1c> I can connect to my phone (a nokia 6070) with Gmobilemedia now. But it won't display the filesystem; error. "GSM_GetFileSystemStatus failed with error NOTSUPPORTED[21]: Function not supported by phone." Have rtfm'ed to no avail. Anyone?
[18:28] <Ward1983> DasEI, ah sorry forgot umount
[18:29] <DasEI>  Ward1983:sudo umount /dev/sde2
[18:29] <Ward1983> DasEI, i have to go for ten minutes, i hope you'll still be here when i come back
[18:29] <DasEI> ^
but where to paste it
[18:29] <Ward1983> DasEI, i have to go for ten minutes, i hope you'll still be here when i come back
[18:29] <DasEI>  Ward1983:try it :P
[18:29] <Ward1983> DasEI, cant need to go very urgently, ill try immediately when ill come back
[18:29] <jimcooncat> ganeshredcobra: it saves it as a file, not in a clipboard
[18:30] <tarelerulz> |unjustice,  What  feature acidrip support . Like all the audio , subtitles ?   Into file not an iso ?
i just installed kde4 in my ubuntu 8.04 i cant find the snapshot tool
[18:30] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: yeah
[18:30] <jimcooncat> ganeshredcobra: kde has a different one than I use in gnome -- maybe several different ones
[18:30] <imachine> hi
[18:30] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I have not ripped to .iso with it
[18:30] <imachine> I can't build nvidia drivers
[18:30] <evee> hi
[18:30] <imachine> any help ?
[18:31] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but have w/ audio subtitles, can go up to xvid
[18:31] <ThomasRDK> Paid job - I need a mailserver hosting several domains set up at a webserver already running Ubuntu 8.04, Apache, PHP and MySQL. Contact me for details.
[18:31] <Marfi> "failed to initialize HAL" how can i fix this? had to manually edit the xorg.conf file in order to get the computer booting. installed from the alternate CD. averatec 7100
[18:31] <Rewt> driving me crazy.. what's the music streaming app that comes preinstalled with ubuntu?
[18:31] <jalvarado> imachine: did you try envy?
[18:31] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: rarely crashes...unless I am running video at the same time as a rip
[18:31] <jimcooncat> ganeshredcobra: you might try in #kubuntu
[18:32] <tarelerulz> |unjustice, what do you mean go up to xvid ?
[18:32] <imachine> jalvarado, it's not an envy issue.
[18:32] <imachine> jalvarado, I did try it.
[18:32] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: formatting qualities
[18:32] <imachine> jalvarado, they simply won't build, dkms fails.
[18:33] <jalvarado> ok, then I don't know
[18:33] <xphree> Hello, i'm having a problem with OpenlDAP and Ubuntu 8.10
[18:33] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: the container for the video is .avi, but the video format is xvid or x64....better than mpeg
[18:33] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: there is a new program out called handbrake that is even better allegedly
[18:33] <xphree> I need to include the samba schema into de slapd.conf file but that file doesn't exist, ubuntu 8.10 and openldap uses a different configuration option
[18:34] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I have not used it
[18:35] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I believe handbrak can rip to ogg-theora as well
[18:35] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, I don't see why they just don't all do .mkv  something that can do all the nice features .  avi fine .  really should open source ripper not have open source contrainer formats support.  like mkv , ogg .  Ogg not good it don't do anything beside ogg video
[18:35] <Suede> ciao
[18:35] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I like ogg
[18:35] <Suede> !list
[18:35] <serg> cia
[18:35] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, handbrake does everything ,but softsubs .  right now that is
[18:36] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but then, I am moving to all open source :)
[18:36] <tvaughn> how do i make conky keep from minimizing
[18:36] <tvaughn> and possibly follow the active workspace?
[18:36] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: .avi containers are tricky because the underlying format is not necessarily readable
[18:36] <iBog> hello
[18:36] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: many video editing/burning programs write in proprietary formats that are unreadable even by VLC
[18:36] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, does ogg do subtitles.  From what I have read it sound  theory .  mkv sound like the best one out .
[18:36] <grelle> Hi. Does anyone know how to increase the resolution when connecting to Ubuntu 8.04 through vncviewer? I only get 800x600 even though my Ubuntu machine runs in 1280x1024
[18:36] <earthmeLon> Hey  guys, is there any way to theme/adjust the placement of libnotify notifications?
[18:37] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: it works for me, but then...you can still write to mp3
[18:37] <iBog> can anyone suggest how I can create a custom live CD with ubuntu 8.04?
[18:37] <tiyowan> tvaughn: You need to read that thread I posted on conky. Then you need to spend some time and patience with your own .rcconky file. Also, for additional questions on conky, please join the #conky channel.
[18:37] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: if you have problems with flac or ogg
[18:37] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but acidrip can write all of them
[18:38] <Deliak> hi guys
[18:38]  * heret1c muses - "most ubuntu users have mobile phones, of which a conservative estimate of 50% have a built-in camera. Should be +700 Gmobilemedia users here...?" 
[18:38] <Fenix|work> how does one find all the packages installe?
[18:38] <Fenix|work> installed?
[18:38] <Deliak> I need to have root privileges in a script:
[18:38] <Deliak> mount -o loop /romfs/romfs.bin /romfs/root mount: only root can do that
[18:38] <Pici> Fenix|work: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[18:38] <Deliak> how can I do that?
[18:38] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, not worred about the video and audio formats.  I just want mulit audio , and subtitles and from what I understand .avi nor ogg support those and .mp4 says it will ,but never read anything about getting it to do so .   As for open source goes mkv is the best . most features and support everything
[18:38] <Pici> Fenix|work: Sorry, dpkg -l | grep "^ii"
[18:39] <|unjustice|> Fenix|work:either check aptitude or look in synaptic to see which ones are "already installed"
[18:39] <tiyowan> Deliak: "sudo scriptname"...I don't know whether it's possible to get root from *within* a script. Possible security problem.
[18:39] <jamesclayden0127> hay, i have got a new ati x1950 graphics card. i can still boot ok un-till i load the ati driver and rest then all i get after the loading screen is a blank black screen. alt+ctrl+f1 does nothing, the only way to fix it is boot into recovery and run xfig
[18:39] <t3ckn0b0y> xine always loads with volume all the way down, anyway of adjusting it?
[18:39] <DasEI> tvaughn: you can edit the config-file, google is full off it : http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html
[18:39] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I have ripped movies from german, japanese, chinese, spanish, and czech all with subtitles successfully in ogg and mp3
[18:39] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: with acidrip
[18:39] <Unirgy> hi, how do i find out which init mode ubuntu starts with?
[18:39] <tiyowan> jamesclayden0127: Is there any particular reason why you wouldn't want to use the ATI drivers?
[18:40] <kern> hey i burned a cd on windows a long time ago... i remember that i used to have a program that could see the filesnames that were burned...is there anything like that for linux?
[18:40] <Deliak> :tiyowan
[18:40] <tiyowan> Unirgy: who -r if you're looking for runlevels.
[18:40] <jamesclayden0127> i am getting no 3d suport without them
[18:40] <kern> i think i burned it on n nero
[18:40] <Marfi> getting a problem. "failed to initialize HAL!" any ideas how to fix this? working on it for a friend
[18:40] <|unjustice|> kern: are you looking for a cd burning program?
[18:40] <Deliak> :tiyowan I know its wrong but is there a way to give root privileges to a user and dont ever ever get requested a password ... ever
[18:40] <Unirgy> tiyowan: thanks, shows 2, but it's graphical, is there a designated text runlevel?
[18:41] <tiyowan> jamesclayden0127: Then use them? That's what they're there for. Intrepid and ATI have some problems working together. I'm on an ATI X1400.
[18:41]  * SuNDeC jumps
[18:41] <Unirgy> tiyowan: is it 1?
[18:41] <tiyowan> Deliak: I don't know.
[18:41] <DasEI> Fenix|work: sudo aptitude --disable-columns --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/packages    gives you a file,  also dpkg-l >  packages.txt
[18:41] <xphree> Anyone can help me with openldap?
[18:41] <tarelerulz> |unjustice| to make sure I understand what about one files that has , english , french , Spanish  audio , subtitles for english , French , Spanish ? if so what kind of file did you make . mp4 , ogg , mkv
[18:42] <Unirgy> tiyowan: nope, 1 is single user
[18:42] <kern> |unjustice|: negative, I have burned cds already.. i dont remember the names of some of the songs on it... is therea program (player) that supports reading these filenames?
[18:42] <tiyowan> Unirgy: The Ubuntu runlevels are a bit different...hang on, I'll dig up a post.
[18:42] <Unirgy> tiyowan: so i'll just remove stuff from rc2.d to make it text?\
[18:42] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: you can pick, I chose ogg and ripped with spanish subtitles
[18:42] <Fenix|work> DasEI, how do I go about using this to reinstall everything?
[18:43] <tiyowan> !upstart > Unirgy
[18:43] <jamesclayden0127> after installing the ati driver linux hangs before to log on screen
[18:43] <tiyowan> Unirgy: I was wondering about runlevels just today. Found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=995805
[18:43] <|unjustice|> kern: so you are trying to write cds with tags that can be read on a cd player?
[18:43] <DasEI> !clone | Fenix|work
[18:43] <evee> ive got a very stupid question please, where do i find the .bashrc?
[18:43] <rjune> evee, ~
[18:44] <kern> |unjustice|: yes, thats what i would like to do on ubunutu... but i already have cds burnt with files names...but rhythmbox doesnt read them will anything read them?
[18:44] <Marfi> i am getting an error when starting ubuntu...."failed to initialize HAL" reinstalled, googled it, and can't find anything. can someone help me? =)
[18:44] <evee> oh ok *smile* thank you
[18:44] <gorgapor> where is the profiler in python 3? none of the packages for it have an installation candidate
[18:44] <Fenix|work> DasEI, just need to pipe it all to apt-get --reinstall install :)
[18:44] <tiyowan> evee: Homebase. :-)
[18:44] <tarelerulz> |unjustice| I don't mean files with one audio track and one subtitle . I mean one that could have all the audio track of the dvd and all the subtitles in one file and you could pick if you wanted to hear the enlgish with say french subtiles   or maybe  english audio with Spanish .
[18:44] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: try easytag
[18:44] <|unjustice|> whoops
[18:44] <|unjustice|> sorry
[18:44] <rjune> evee, anything file that begins with '.' is hidden. ls -a or enable hidden files in nautilus
[18:44] <rschafer> anyone running ultimate 2.0??
[18:44] <|unjustice|> kern: try easytag
[18:44] <Pici> !ultimate | rschafer
[18:44] <DasEI> Fenix|work : yes apt, or dpkg
[18:45] <Unirgy> tiyowan: thanks, very helpful :)
[18:45] <tiyowan> Marfi: Is that the complete message?
[18:45] <Marfi> tiyowan, yes
[18:45] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: yeah, that is sort of pointless...you might as well burn a copy, you can rip each section individually and have all of them but not all at once
[18:45] <Deliak> does anyone know how to give god mode ehmm root privileges to an user from the login?
[18:45] <tiyowan> Unirgy: Glad to be of help. :-)
[18:45] <Deliak> I mean till the login
[18:45] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: the DVD contains each file and you pick which one to run when you watch it, if you want to rip it...then you can and then open that particular file individually
[18:45] <Marfi> tiyowan, it comes up in a pop up window when the laptop comes to the ubuntu screen, and pops it out when logging on. reinstall didn't help
[18:45] <DasEI>  Marfi:HAL = Hardware Abstraction Layer, watch /var/log/syslog for further hints
[18:46] <froq> hi
[18:46] <jamesclayden0127> can anyone help me with my graphics driver problem?
[18:46] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: if you want to be able to select, you would have to reburn them all with a menu...which at that point you might as well copy the DVD itself
[18:46] <Unirgy> tiyowan: it says in /boot/grub/menu.lst to change # defoptions=.. but it leaves the comment char - or # is not meaning comment line?
[18:46] <almark1> Hello, I am having a problem getting the Ubuntu ati  drivers to work I used the information from BinaryDriver Howto for Ubuntu.
[18:46] <Marfi> DasEI, scanning it now. thats a big file.....
[18:47] <hell-blues> off now
[18:47] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but you can mix and match subtitles and languages with acidrip, if you want a ripped file with english subtitles and french spoken word (as an example)
[18:47] <tiyowan> Unirgy: I haven't tried this out yet so I wouldn't know. :-)
[18:47] <tiyowan> Marfi: Okay. Does it happen whenever you have a CD in your drive?
[18:48] <ThomasRDK> Paid job - I need a mailserver hosting several domains set up at a webserver already running Ubuntu 8.04, Apache, PHP and MySQL. Contact me for details.
[18:48] <kern> |unjustice|: easy tag can read burnt cds?
[18:49] <Unirgy> tiyowan: cool, luckily it's in vmware so no problem to reboot :)
[18:49] <tiyowan> Unirgy: That is for disabling the splash screen. If you want to boot into text-mode, check out the update section it has in there.
[18:49] <|unjustice|> kern: I believe so, I think Id3 does as well
[18:49] <tiyowan> Unirgy: # update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[18:50] <Unirgy> tiyowan: i want it all :)
[18:50] <DasEI> Marfi: a quick n simple try is reinstallation of hal
[18:50] <Unirgy> tiyowan: just to run as a webserver
[18:50] <heret1c> Any gmobilemedia users here at ell?
[18:50] <tarelerulz> |unjustice| I don't mean one audio track with one subtitles track .  I mean 3 audio track , 3 subtitle tracks all in one file .
[18:51] <almark1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` will not install the fglrx.ko module, anyone know why?
[18:51] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: why would you want to listen to three overlayed conflicting audio tracks?
[18:51] <froq> i am using ubuntu 8.10 on an lenovo t400 notebook with the integrated intel gma 4500 mhd graphics controller. i am using an external screen connected via vga out. when i configure the screen using the resolution settings tool, the task/menu bars move to the external screen. is there a way i can force gnome to open new windows only on screen 1 (the notebook tft), and keep the bars where they are?
[18:51] <DasEI> almark1: looks like a mixture of three diff. cmd's to me
[18:51] <Marfi> DasEI, tried it, and still didn't initialize back up. found one thing that looks odd in the syslog, though. "failed to load module 'module-hal-detect' " under pulseaudio
[18:52] <Slart_> !fonts
[18:52] <Ward1983> DasEI, back ill try it now :)
[18:52] <grelle> How come I can connect to my Ubuntu machine using vncviewer, when I don't have vncserver installed in Ubuntu?
[18:52] <DasEI> Marfi: which soundcard ? (lshw)
[18:52] <Unirgy> tiyowan: interesting, even though the line starts with "#" it's not considered a comment
[18:52] <Marfi> DasEI, sound works fine. ill get the model for you, hold on
[18:52] <Unirgy> oh no i'm wrong - it started the splash
[18:52] <tiyowan> Unirgy: Which one the update one? That's supposed to be run from the terminal.
[18:52] <alesan> hi my mother is at the pc (I have her over the phone) trying to boot a ubuntu livecd
[18:52] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, I don't want to listen to them all at the same time. I would like it so I could pick if I want french audio  , English , Spanish  .   Read up on mkv
[18:52] <Ward1983> DasEI, umount: /cdrom: device is busy.
[18:52] <saga> I am using 2.6.26.5-45 kernel and my gcc version is 4.3 i am not able to compile 2.6.23 version of kernel i am getting output as http://pastebin.com/m21a5bec1
[18:52] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: like I said above, that is the same as copying the DVD, you might as well copy it, OR rip it 3 times to get each language option as a different file because that is what is one the DVD
[18:53] <Slart_> grelle: there is a remote desktop feature installed by default I think.. look for vinagre or similar
[18:53] <alesan> I have to have her check the disk
[18:53] <Unirgy> tiyowan: i'm talking about "# defoptions" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:53] <jimcooncat> grelle: there is a sort of vncserver in there, called vino
[18:53] <Ward1983> DasEI, i think its like this because i used unetbootin
[18:53] <alesan> otherwise her installation won't boot because of errors
[18:53] <Slart_> grelle: although I think it's disabled by default..
[18:53] <Marfi> DasEI, nvidia mcp51 audio driver
[18:53] <alesan> what is the command to check the disks?
[18:53] <Deliak> I need to do a mount in a script without being requested a password so as if my user was root
[18:53] <Deliak> please help
[18:54] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: when you rip the DVD...you are extracting copies of files on the disc, not the disc itself as it runs in a DVD player
[18:54] <tiyowan> Unirgy: Ah ok. :-)
[18:54] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but you can choose which files you want to rip
[18:54] <grelle> Ok, thanks. Can I install the "proper" vncserver and use it instead if I disable vino?
[18:54] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: and you can rip all of the ones that you mentioned
[18:54] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: but not as one file
[18:55] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: just copy the DVD...it's faster
[18:55] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|, I nkow all about make iso .  If you could put it all into say an ogg why not do that.  everthing dvd has into 2 gb movie file
[18:55] <jimcooncat> grelle: you don't need to mess with vino, as vncserver will default to display :2
[18:55] <jimcooncat> grelle: you don't need to mess with vino, as vncserver will default to display :1 *
[18:55] <marenostrum> @alesan: Why to check the disk while trying to boot a live CD? Just insert the CD and reboot the machine.
[18:55] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: if you want to, but the .iso is not playable
[18:55] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: you would have to mount it and then run it as though it were a disc
[18:56] <tiyowan> Deliak: Either run it with sudo. Or put sudo in the beginning of the script. It'll only ask you for the password once. There is *no* other way.
[18:56] <Unirgy> tiyowan: lol splash shows in any case, but at least i'm relaxed that # still means commented line :)
[18:56] <grelle> jimcooncat: thanks
[18:56] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: I prefer to have the files rather than the .iso...they are trickier to run
[18:56] <erythrocyte> hi...i need help setting up ekiga with a speedtouch NAT router...i've tried following the ekiga wiki...but it doesn't seem to work :( ..can you point me to some good howtos?
[18:56] <alesan> marenostrum don't worry that part. once the livecd has booted, how do I have the disks checked?
[18:56] <DasEI> Marfi: if it's pulse causing the trouble, alsa should work fine, too
[18:56] <Solarium> #
[18:56] <almark1> DasEI: what am I doing wrong, I want to install ati drivers the ubuntu way, the ati way does not work for me
[18:56] <jimcooncat> grelle: you realize that vncserver gives you a new desktop?
[18:56] <nbeebo> i cant get the cube to working since last reinstall..
[18:56] <DasEI> Ward1983: mount | pastebin
[18:56] <nbeebo> yes i got compiz running
[18:56] <Marfi> DasEI, then...how do i go about fixing the HAL problem?
[18:57] <tiyowan> Unirgy: Conitinue tinkering around with it. If you're committed to having no splash, then you'll find a way to get no splash. :-)
[18:57] <Solarium> #ubuntu
[18:57] <Solarium> oka
[18:57] <almark1> DasEI: Do you want to know what the ati way errors are?
[18:57] <Unirgy> tiyowan: nice, 170M on init down from 230M
[18:57] <DasEI> almark1: first backup your xorg.conf
[18:57] <DasEI> Marfi:if it is pulse (syslog ?!) disable it
[18:57] <nbeebo> i cant use desktop cube..
[18:58] <almark1> DasEI: Don't have much of one, just But I will back it up, I know its very important, its just a skeleton
[18:58] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|,  Vlc will play iso files .   MKV will hold all mulit videos ,  muil audio tracks , subtitle tracks , chapter information , meta tags and even has menu system . I think it could be just like the dvd with out make an iso
[18:58] <Unirgy> tiyowan: 90/10 rule, the effort and time of removing it doesn't worth the return value, so i'll just let it be :)
[18:58] <worldcitizen> How can I edit emblems for files/folders?
[18:59] <grelle> jimcooncat: what do you mean by "new desktop"? Do I have to log in with a different user, or do I get a different desktop on the same login session?
[18:59] <browdigger_> hao dig earth
[18:59] <DasEI> almark1: so prbly ibex xorg 7.4 then
[18:59] <browdigger_> hao dig earth
[18:59] <browdigger_> hao dig earth
[18:59] <browdigger_> hao dig earth
[18:59] <FloodBot2> browdigger_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <DasEI> Ward1983: url ?
[18:59] <carbocalm> hi. Anybody knows why my ubuntu doesn't detect Avermedia Tv Capture 98 ? (lspci has : 02:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02) )
[18:59] <jimcooncat> grelle: same user, new X session
[18:59] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f79dca164
[18:59] <almark1> DasEI: using Ibex yes, but I don't know the xorg version, I know this will work for me they support my 8500 radeon
[18:59] <tiyowan> !hcl > carbocalm
[19:00] <grelle> jimcooncat: I suppose that's fine. would it be possible to shut down the "original" X session and only use the one that vnc opens?
[19:00] <almark1> DasEI: I have backed up my xorg.conf
[19:01] <DasEI> Ward1983: /dev/sde2 on /cdrom type ext3    is where you're 98 gig are actually mounted
[19:01] <Marfi> DasEI, disabled pulse, set it to alsa, and restarting. also caught a glimpse, and it said to make sure dbus is starting
[19:01] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f79dca164
[19:01] <marenostrum> @alesan: Googling for "ubuntu check disk" give many results. You can find your disk information with fdisk -l. And also fsck /dev/hda1 may help. But I'm not sure if they work with live CD.
[19:01] <Ward1983> DasEI, so for software right now i would only have room for 800MB if i understand correctly?
[19:02] <DasEI> Ward1983: cd
[19:02] <wakejagr> hi.  i've got ubuntu-server installed to an external usb drive, and i'd like to change the initrd to include usb drivers.  what do i need to change so that update-initramfs will include usb drivers in a new initrd?
[19:02] <DasEI> Ward1983: cd /cdrom
[19:02] <DasEI> Ward1983: ls
[19:02] <jimcooncat> grelle: yes, just log out from it.
[19:02] <DasEI> Ward1983: df
[19:02] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f4e79d547
[19:03] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://pastebin.com/f4791dee1
[19:03] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz:  you can store a massive uncompressed file if you want, but the amount of timeo o it will take to rip, plus the likelihood of a crash (atleast with my comp) dissuades me from ripping straight .iso, I usually opt for a more compressed format
[19:03] <DasEI> Ward1983: last two pastes are the content of installer cd
[19:04] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: it kills my hard disc
[19:04] <cbarreda> Ubuntu 8.10 Unplugged my USB headphones to copy data to a flash drive. Connected USB headphones back. No Sound.
[19:04] <cbarreda> Created another account. New account has sound. Log into my account. No Sound. How do I fix it?
[19:04] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[19:04] <Marfi> DasEI, disabled pulse, and still the same problem.
[19:04] <Pici> cbarreda: Make sure that your user is in the audio group
[19:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, those are the contents of /cdrom and no CD is inserted
[19:04] <tiyowan> Good night, folks.
[19:04] <tarelerulz> |unjustice|,  That maybe an option I have to try out . See how program either don't support all the feature I want or if they do they just crash like omgirp .  You have been very helpful.
[19:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, you do know what unetbootin does right?
[19:05] <DasEI> Marfi : did you reboot or restart hal n dbus (soundserver?)
[19:05] <Ward1983> DasEI, i think this is reated to the way i "installed"
[19:05] <Ward1983> related
[19:05] <Marfi> DasEI, rebooted the computer, thinking that would do it
[19:05] <DasEI> Marfi : nice hope, yes.. paste your syslog
[19:06] <cbarreda> Pici. 1.- How do I do insure I am in the Audio group?
[19:06] <DasEI> Marfi : and kernel.log, too
[19:06] <Marfi> DasEI, i got the first ubuntu sound when the login screen comes, but don't know after that. hold on, let me grab it
[19:06] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: glad I could help, I like acidrip...and I am told by reliable sources to try andbrake
[19:06] <|unjustice|> tarelerulz: er...handbrake
[19:06] <dkT> Anyone who also have problem with 8.10 freezing sometimes?
[19:07] <almark1> DasEI: I can see your busy.
[19:07] <grelle> jimcooncat: That's what I wanted anyways. I don't want to log in from the server before I can access it remotely
[19:07] <Pici> cbarreda: sudo adduser $USER audio
[19:08] <marenostrum> @dkT: No freezing here
[19:08] <juanez> dkT: ruled out hardware ?
[19:08] <tarelerulz> |unjustice| is great for ripping fast ,but it don't support selectable subtitles . nor does it support mkv
[19:08] <almark1> |unjustice|: do you have an ati card?
[19:09] <cbarreda> Pici, still no sound. Note that I had sound. I lost it after I unplugged the USB headset to put in a flash drive.
[19:09] <DasEI> almark1: try to gather if ati 8500 suits with xorg 7.4
[19:09] <dkT> juanez: How can I see, if some hardware are defect in Ubuntu... Can i actually that?
[19:09] <almark1> DasEI: do you mean check the amd.com site? for tht info
[19:09] <Pici> cbarreda: What does the output of   groups   say?
[19:09] <DasEI> Ward1983: what says df about /cdrom ?
[19:10] <Ward1983> DasEI, /dev/sde2             98774672    919176  92838000   1% /cdrom
[19:10] <Ward1983> DasEI, output of df /cdrom
[19:10] <cbarreda> Pici cbarreda adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[19:10] <almark1> DasEI: The highest it goes is up to 7.1, won't will will it?
[19:10] <Ward1983> DasEI, that seems correct right?
[19:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, lol holdon ill just throw some large mediafiles at my homefolder and see what happens :)
[19:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, maybe i should have started with that :p
[19:11] <KenBW2> im trying to run a game under WINE from a mounted ISO image. I've successfully installed the game but when I try to run it it tells me to insert the CD. Any ideas?/
[19:11] <almark1> DasEI: Guess in my case its off to try archlinux ;)
[19:12] <epswing> i'm having all sorts of trouble mounting a nas directory.  i can see it in File Browser, but i can't mount it :( any ideas? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012093
[19:12] <Marfi> DasEI, same thing in the syslog file, except its still booting the pulseaudio. how do i disable it?
[19:12] <Guiri> Hi guys. I'm installing using the Alternative cd. It always hangs on Starting up the partitioner at 50%. What can I do?
[19:13] <Guiri> It's a virtual machien using VirtualBox
[19:13] <whiplash000> Hey, I want to edit /dev/sda in a hexeditor to change one byte in the first sector. How do I do this?
[19:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, "there is not enough space on the destination"
[19:13] <MoLoot> Guiri: how much RAM have you allocated to the virt machine?
[19:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, damnit :@ lol
[19:14] <Guiri> MoLoot: 128 MB. I have a bunch of old laptops lying around and I wanted to see if I could get a command line system with finch and lynx running.
[19:14] <ikonia> whiplash000: open a hexeditor and tell it to open /dev/sda
[19:14] <rookeeeeeeeee> jin is that you jinstewart?
[19:14] <ikonia> whiplash000: it's that simple
[19:14] <KenBW2> im trying to run a game under WINE from a mounted ISO image. I've successfully installed the game but when I try to run it it tells me to insert the CD. Any ideas?/
[19:14] <almark1> DasEI: Is there a way to downgrade xorg in Ubuntu and keep the version distro?
[19:14] <ikonia> KenBW2: #winehq for wine topics
[19:14] <whiplash000> ikonia, tried that, it says "Cannot open file!"
[19:14] <Pici> cbarreda: Please logout and log back in.
[19:15] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[19:15] <MoLoot> Guiri: I am not anywhere close to certain, but perhaps you need more memory.
[19:15] <MoLoot> Guiri: but I'm just guessing.
[19:15] <jin> rookeeeeeeeee, no
[19:15] <david_> hi all my XFCE desktop wont load, .xsessions error log says (npviewer.bin:7390): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_
[19:15] <david_> detach: assertion `style->attach_count > 0' failed
[19:15] <david_> apps file failure
[19:15] <david_> can anyone help
[19:15] <nbeebo> i cant rotate my desktop cube
[19:15] <dkT> juanez: Yes, hardware is working.
[19:15] <DasEI> almark1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6275059  , the radeon/fglrx of ubuntu should work, moni is also to be configured manually; we can try if the ati installer works, but I don' think so
[19:16] <KenBW2> nbeebo: you got CCSM installed?
[19:16] <MoLoot> Guiri: Can you allocate the virutal machine any additional memory and try again?
[19:16] <DasEI> almark1: hardy would run it fine
[19:16] <Guiri> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Absolute%20minimum%20installation
[19:16] <nbeebo> kenbw2, i got it running
[19:16] <david_> having a problem when I  tried to load XFCE I gein error log (npviewer.bin:7390): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_
[19:16] <david_> detach: assertion `style->attach_count > 0' failed
[19:16] <david_> apps file failure
[19:16] <KenBW2> nbeebo: you got Rotate Cube enabled?
[19:16] <nbeebo> kenbw, enaled desktop cube and rotate cube
[19:16] <nbeebo> before
[19:17] <DasEI> Marfi : can we see syslog and kernel.log ?
[19:17] <nbeebo> enabled*
[19:17] <david_> anyone?
[19:17] <Marfi> DasEI, it screwed up, and im just gonna do a reinstall of it, and hope that gets it back up
[19:17] <whiplash000> Could anyone help out? I thought it would be as simple as "sudo ghex2 /dev/sda" but it didn't work
[19:17] <KenBW2> nbeebo: stupid question: youve tried the keybinding havent you
[19:17] <ikonia> whiplash000: thats a block device
[19:17] <almark1> DasEI: but hardy woudn't be compatible with newer programs, right? like compiz and games and ardour2?
[19:17] <DasEI> Marfi :or you have some patience and wait for better advice ..
[19:17] <whiplash000> ikonia: so what should I do?
[19:18] <ikonia> whiplash000: what exactly are youtrying to do ?
[19:18] <nbeebo> kenbw2, yes
[19:18] <DasEI> almark1: hardy is well supported
[19:18] <DasEI> !hardy
[19:18] <Marfi> DasEI, i've been working on it for the past 6 hours....it won't even let me log in now
[19:18] <DasEI> !lts
[19:18] <nbeebo> kenbw2, i can use the keyboard but not with the mouse
[19:18] <nbeebo> kenbw2, lol now it started to work all of a sudden
[19:18] <almark1> DasEI: I am using Ubuntu studio 8.10, is there a ubuntu studio for hardy?
[19:18] <KenBW2> ctrl+alt+left mouse drag?
[19:18] <DasEI> Marfi: give it a rest then
[19:19] <whiplash000> ikonia: Change a single byte in the first sector of my hard disk so it is basic instead of dynamic so I can install vista
[19:19] <Guiri> Not sure why it's not working
[19:19] <Saga_1> People -- Anybody using XBMC lately?  There are fast playback issue relating to PulseAudio.  Do anybody know a proper fix for it?  There are several "fixes" on the forums -- All differents.
[19:19] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Is there a way to have the results of a MAN page inquiry to print to a .log file or a .html file ? Command in particular I'm working with is the " ps " or "ps aux " command ? ?
[19:19] <Marfi> DasEI, hes leaving in the morning. =)
[19:19] <DasEI> almark1: yes, but don't ask me about it's drivers
[19:19] <almark1> DasEI: thanks for the info
[19:19] <nbeebo> kenbw2, well did that before but now it worked... got it working now thanks!
[19:19] <tarelerulz> Saga_1, I have used xbmc and it works great.
[19:19] <almark1> DasEI: I'll check it out ;)
[19:19] <ikonia> don't think you'll be able to do that with a hex editor as your looking to
[19:20] <Saga_1> tarelerulz: Did you experience fast playback at first try?
[19:20] <Photoguy> How do I add themes in Ubutnu? (Newbie question) :P
[19:20] <wto> I'm trying to uninstall crossover from intrepid.  I'm using the command 'sudo /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxuninstall' and I get 'cxuninstall:error: unable to determine how to uninstall CrossOver Linux Professional'.  I'm using intrepid.  Thanks.
[19:20] <Pici> !themes > Photoguy
[19:20] <whiplash000> ikonia: I've looked all over for some type of editor that will allow me to edit the hard disk sectors directly but I couldn't find it online anywhere
[19:20] <jim_p> how can i add the Tahoma font in my fonts ?
[19:20] <Pici> nite_johnboy: man ps > file.txt
[19:20] <Saga_1> tarelerulz: What Ubuntu are you using tho?
[19:21] <tarelerulz> Saga_1, I have seen the fast play back,  the visual running up my cpu to 100% ,  It not working on nvidia card.  running up cpu and just black box on that card
[19:21] <DasEI> Ward1983: so you got a 1% filled parti with no more space > where do you actually boot from , hd, net or cd ?
[19:21] <Reformer81> I am just curious if it is possible to install Ubuntu-eee on a desktop?
[19:21] <nite_johnboy> Pici: thank you!
[19:21] <Pici> jim_p: Try installing the msttcorefonts package
[19:21] <ikonia> wto: I suggest you contact cross-over support as it is a paid for 3rd party tool that has official support channels
[19:21] <tarelerulz> Saga_1, I used Ubuntu 8.04
[19:21] <Saga_1> tarelerulz: What fix did you use?  I would like the audio to work, with or without PulseAudio.
[19:21] <almark1> DasEI: I want to downgrade this version, Am I going to have to download the cd or can I just apt-get it?
[19:21] <jim_p> Pici, i have installed since months ago. its not in there
[19:21] <Ward1983> DasEI, the bootable partition i created with unetbootin is where i boot from
[19:22] <nbeebo> still lots of problems with ibex? heard it got lots not so long ago...
[19:22] <Saga_1> tarelerulz: If you can still remember.  There are several fixes on the forums -- XBMC forum can be unreliable sometimes.
[19:22] <peleg> I am using gVim; I know that there's a way to open gVim with tabs (gvim -p file1 file2 file3). Though, when I open files from nautilus using gVim (its only use, since in shell I use vim...), it opens a new instance of gVim every time. Is there a way to avoid this?
[19:22] <person_khanu> Anyone want to help me with a permissions problem?  I have files across 2 hard drives, and 3 partitions with 3 different ubuntu installs.  I blew away something and now the partitions aren't loading correctly.  I need to get files off of one drive so i can blow it away... will a livecd give me manpower over these files that i don't have permission to access?
[19:22] <abe3k> hi guys,I need help fast, I changed my ubuntu resolution to a wrong one and it got out of range, and now I can't set it back, I'm in the failsafe terminal at the moment , what can I do ?
[19:22] <Ward1983> DasEI, just to make sure: you do know what unetbootin does and how it works right?
[19:22] <ikonia> person_khanu: the livecd will be fine
[19:22] <raylu> person_khanu: yes
[19:22] <person_khanu> thanks
[19:22] <jim_p> Pici, tahoma is included in the "web core" fonts, but is there a package for them?
[19:23] <s3phiroth> hi there. what's the default size of an ubuntu install these days ?
[19:23] <DasEI> Ward1983: no specialist in that, right 800MB = cd
[19:23] <Ward1983> DasEI, it kindof makes the harddrive into a liveCD that can remember whats installed, etc
[19:23] <s3phiroth> Kirovski: msttcorefonts
[19:23] <s3phiroth> oops
[19:23] <Ward1983> DasEI, mostly used for USb sticks
[19:23] <tarelerulz> Saga_1, the audio is the one thing that worked.  Everything that I have and hand problems with was visual .   it not working with my video card.  The visual running up my cpu .  For the one I did get it working . I just turned off the visual that go to the audio .  I wish I could say I had the same audio problem and fixed it
[19:23] <s3phiroth> kimmey2k3: msttcorefonts
[19:23] <Ward1983> DasEI, it works with a loopfile of some sort but i dont have a clue what that is
[19:23] <jim_p> do you guys have tahoma installed?
[19:23] <s3phiroth> erm...
[19:24] <s3phiroth> jim_p: msttcorefonts
[19:24] <s3phiroth> but...that does not have tahoma
[19:24] <netsrot> Hi, is there any channel I can get some help with bluetooth CLI in ubuntu??
[19:24] <ikonia> netsrot: just ask
[19:24] <s3phiroth> it has trebuchet
[19:24] <Pici> jim_p: Doesnt look like it.  It *may* be found in the 'wine' package at /usr/share/wine/fonts/tahoma.ttf
[19:24] <s3phiroth> which is close
[19:24] <jim_p> s3phiroth, its not in there
[19:24] <abe3k> I changed my screen resolution to a wrong setting by mistake and it got out of my monitor range, and now I can't see anything to set it back, I'm at the failsafe terminal, what can I do to fix this ?
[19:24] <jim_p> Pici, let me look
[19:25] <netsrot> how do I pair a mobile with my ubuntu pc by only using CLI?
[19:25] <ikonia> netsrot: do a hcitool -scan to scan for your mobile if it is visable
[19:25] <whiplash000> Anyone have an idea of what I can use to edit the first sector of my hard disk?
[19:25] <jim_p> Pici, nope, folder is blank
[19:25] <netsrot> ikonia: it is
[19:25] <Pici> jim_p: It doesn't apepar to be in an official package then.
[19:25] <jimcooncat> whiplash000: maybe dd, but beyond my knowlege
[19:25] <raylu> abe3k: are you root?
[19:26] <abe3k> raylu, yes
[19:26] <DasEI> Ward1983: ..and its size is limited then, obviousley.. but can  repart , swap is in extended!
[19:26] <raylu> abe3k: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:26] <whiplash000> jimcooncat: how do I use that?
[19:26] <netsrot> ikonia: and then?
[19:26] <abe3k> raylu, then what ?
[19:26] <person_khanu> thanks for the help, have a good day all!
[19:26] <raylu> abe3k: then change the monitor range there
[19:26] <jim_p> Pici, then what can i do? i have a webpage that is on tahoma font and ff changes it so some serif one! needless to say the result is ugly
[19:26] <raylu> abe3k: to note: ^X means ctrl+x
[19:26] <abe3k> raylu, the setting there is correct
[19:27] <Ward1983> DasEI, aha swap cannot be in extended? oops
[19:27] <shausam27> hi there dose anyone now how to get the audio to work the head set from the front plug in
[19:27] <raylu> abe3k: oh. it must be per-user setting then. what happens if you run gdm?
[19:27] <jimcooncat> whiplash000: I'm not sure, I've seen others do things with it like that.
[19:27] <dballester> hi to all
[19:27] <abe3k> raylu, my monitor says signal is out of range
[19:27] <Ward1983> DasEI, i normally do it automagically :p its a while since i did it manually
[19:27] <DasEI> Ward1983: swap is fine, but you can't have more then 4 primary partis on each hd
[19:27] <raylu> abe3k: hrm, no idea then, sorry
[19:28] <Ward1983> DasEI, i have only 2 primary partitions?
[19:28] <Ward1983> on that HD
[19:28] <whiplash000> jimcooncat: aight, i'll keep looking
[19:28] <taak> if i have a command already running, can i nohup it by ^Zing it and doing nohup %1 ?
[19:28] <DasEI> Ward1983: but in an extended you can have lots of logical partis
[19:28] <abe3k> raylu, isnt there any terminal command that I can enter to change the resolution ?
[19:28] <ibm_> howto disable magic quotes
[19:28] <abe3k> raylu, instead of going to system>prefs>screen res ?
[19:28] <raylu> abe3k: there probably is, but i think it's a per-user setting
[19:28] <DasEI> Ward1983: .. and your swap is in a logical parti, so there should still be one primary (reparting) free
[19:28] <raylu> abe3k: and i don't know where the configuration is stored
[19:28] <fosco_> abe3k, gnome-screen-resolution
[19:28] <netsrot> ikonia: I have tried a lot of guides and in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf I have changed passkey but I never get as far as a request to type it.
[19:29] <almark1> how do you downgrade ibex to hardy?
[19:29] <DasEI> Ward1983: what was that setup done for ?
[19:29] <abe3k> fosco_ : then space resolution ? or what
[19:29] <minulost64_> Mohu psát tady česky?
[19:29] <dballester> I've 7.10, after backup my HD i wanna upgrade to 8.04 and after that, to 8.10. The problem is that update-manager doesn't show the 8.04 availability, -p , -c ... any parameter works. um says that I'm up2date, it's Ok for 7.10, but how to force a upgrade to 8.04 ?
[19:29] <Pici> !downgrade | almark1
[19:29] <OsamaK_> Hi, I'm trying to run yo frankie binary. Trying the command "./yofrankie-linux-i386" gives "Permission denied" and "sudo ./yofrankie-linux-i386" gives "command not found". What can I do?
[19:29] <Photoguy> !ru
[19:29] <raylu> !cz | minulost64_
[19:29] <whiplash000> Anyone here know how I can directly edit the first sector of my hard drive at /dev/sda? Opening it in a hex editor as root didn't work...
[19:29] <fosco_> abe3k, sorry gnome-display-properties
[19:29] <Photoguy> My mistake
[19:29] <fosco_> its a gtk app
[19:30] <cbarreda> Pici I am in the audio group now but still no sound ;(
[19:30] <raylu> whiplash000: why do you need to?
[19:30] <almark1> Pici: I have to or my ati card will not work. I have download a new cd then?
[19:30] <minulost64_> Kde to najdu,v seznamu kanálů jsem jej nikde neviděl
[19:30] <jimcooncat> whiplash000: find the word "editor" on this page and read that section:
[19:30] <abe3k> fosco_ : is it going to bring up a gui ?
[19:30] <jimcooncat> whiplash000: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/How_To_Do_Eveything_With_DD
[19:30] <fosco_> abe3k, yes
[19:30] <Pici> almark1: Unfortunately yes.
[19:30] <abe3k> fosco_ , then it wont help ><
[19:30] <ibm_> anybody know howto disable magic quotes
[19:31] <raylu> abe3k: you could try startx
[19:31] <Ward1983> DasEI, i intend to use this HD at home on several computers and at friends places
[19:31] <almark1> Pici: ack oh well, How do i make a list of all the programs I have installed?
[19:31] <abe3k> fosco_ , I can't see anything, the resolution is out of my monitor's range
[19:31] <raylu> ibm_: in what?
[19:31] <Ward1983> DasEI, my laptop broke and this will be my replacement
[19:31] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[19:31] <whiplash000> jimcooncat: wow, thanks
[19:31] <almark1> Pici: ack So that I can install them in Hardy?
[19:31] <peleg> how do I know if I have AMD64 or i386 ?
[19:31] <axisys> looking for a lightweight desktop recorder.. i am doing some install and i like to record it .. it is just a terminal mainly..
[19:31] <jimcooncat> whiplash000: yw, it learned me something new
[19:32] <Pici> !clone > almark1
[19:32] <froq> when using a second screen on ubuntu 8.10, my panels jump to the second screen when activating it using the gnome-display-properties applet. is there something i can do about it?
[19:32] <axisys> no i do not want script
[19:32] <Ward1983> DasEI, ubuntu actually has a function aswell for this, only that one surprisingly (sarcasm alert) didnt work
[19:32] <Pici> almark1: But it may throw errors for kernel packags or anything else where the version number is stated in the package name,.
[19:32] <Ward1983> DasEI, the ubuntu tool for it didnt even see my external HD
[19:32] <abe3k> raylu: you have ubuntu 8.10 ?
[19:32] <raylu> abe3k: yes, why?
[19:32] <DasEI> Ward1983: 5 drives in your sys, and then unebotin ? at a total of 1.6 TB ?
[19:32] <almark1> Pici: I thought that might happen
[19:32] <ibm_> ray lu: in ubuntu for processing data
[19:32] <abe3k> raylu: I think I'm going todo this blindfolded
[19:32] <raylu> ibm_: processing data how?
[19:33] <wto> Thanks ikonia.
[19:33] <raylu> abe3k: have you tried startx yet?
[19:33] <almark1> Pici: where is the list so I can just copy the names?
[19:33] <abe3k> raylu: as root ?
[19:33] <raylu> abe3k: yes =\
[19:33] <Pici> almark1: dpkg -l | grep "^ii"
[19:33] <almark1> Pici: thanks
[19:33] <DasEI> Ward1983: is there a reason for this (unebotin) ? why not clear your sys in data and (first hd) system ?
[19:34] <ibm_> ray lu: i am trying weberp
[19:34] <Ward1983> DasEI, 4 physical drives, and one unetbootin
[19:34] <Ward1983> DasEI, also of those 4 physical 2 are in a fakeraid raid0 array for my windows installation
[19:34] <DasEI> Ward1983: mmh....
[19:34] <abe3k> raylu: I'm going to launch the resolution settings with alt+f2, then I'll just tab my way to the resolution bar
[19:34] <Saga_1> Is it possible to revert back your installations back to...... 30 minutes ago?
[19:35] <Ward1983> DasEI, i dunno if its important but i dont think so
[19:35] <abe3k> raylu: can you tell me how many times I'll have to press tab to reach the resolution bar ?
[19:35] <Ward1983> DasEI, because gparted sees just my physical drives so
[19:35] <fosco_> Saga_, there's not an easy way
[19:35] <codecowboy> hi. is it possible to make my laptop a wireless access point (i.e share its internet connection over wifi) in Ubuntu 8.10? 'Create new wirless network' doesn not work.
[19:35] <ibm_> ray lu: for php
[19:35] <abe3k> raylu: after it launches
[19:35] <Saga_1> fosco_: I followed this -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 -- It don't seems like a good idea now.
[19:35] <raylu> abe3k: no, but you can try startx
[19:35] <Saga_1> I'm trying to fix XBMC Linux fast playback
[19:36] <peleg> uname -r gives me 2.6.22-16-generic . I am trying to upgrade to FF3, and the tutorial says "this tutorial is for i386", but I don't know if I have i386 or not. How can I check this?
[19:36] <Ward1983> DasEI, i have sda, sdb, sdc, sdd and sde is the unetbootin external disk
[19:36] <ibm_> ray lu: for php in lamp
[19:36] <Ward1983> DasEI, sda-d are my physical internal SATA disks
[19:36] <raylu> ibm_: in the php.ini file. this isn't the place to be asking that
[19:36] <relik77080> hey can someone tell me if there is a way to make apps load faster? at the moment there seems to be a long wait (eg over 15 sec for some apps)
[19:37] <codecowboy> relik77080, buy a faster computer
[19:37] <relik77080> my system is pretty fast and it should not take this long
[19:37] <relik77080> codecowboy:  any other gems>
[19:37] <ruadh> Hi
[19:38] <relik77080> is there some kind of pre-caching I could do?
[19:38] <nbeebo> when i enable "desktop cube effects and deformation" in compiz-settings it unselects again after 1 second
[19:38] <david_> can anyone help me with xfce ?
[19:38] <jimcooncat> ruadh: don't think us rude, but we don't bother with saying just "hi". Too many people here
[19:38] <mpalatnik> not until you ask a real question, no
[19:38] <ibm_> ray lu: I got a message from webERP: Your webserver is configured to enable Magic Quotes. This may cause problems if you use punctuation (such as quotes) when doing data entry. You should contact your webmaster to disable Magic Quotes
[19:39] <david_> mpalatnik, oh thanks errrr ok
[19:39] <DasEI> Ward1983: so a solution might be to repart sde2 , so you have an additional space of 90 gi available afterwards, I don't know if unebootin can be changed to a biger containerfile
[19:39] <marenostrum> @david_: What kind of a help?
[19:39] <E-XtraCt> when I'm trying to boot to my vista from the GRUB menu I get the following error: " Error 23: Error while parsing number | Press any key to continue " how can I fix it ?
[19:39] <david_> mpalatnik, when I log into xfce I get this error from xsessions log file (npviewer.bin:7390): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_style_
[19:39] <david_> detach: assertion `style->attach_count > 0' failed
[19:39] <david_> apps file failur
[19:39] <relik77080> nbeebo: I had the same issue, try this guide.... it may help http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=10273
[19:39] <david_> also Icedtea fails as well
[19:39] <david_> marenostrum, thanks
[19:39] <DasEI> Ward1983: but even with raid, the sys looks too complicated to me
[19:39] <ruadh> Which version of MySQL does Ubuntu 8.10 use?
[19:40] <abe3k> fosco_ : thanks alot man , I did gnome-display-properties from the failsafe terminal and it fixed the problem
[19:40] <Ward1983> DasEI, this unetbootin is really annoyingly confusing
[19:40] <Pici> !info mysql-server | ruadh
[19:40] <Ward1983> DasEI, it seems nobody knows much about it aswell :s
[19:40] <fosco_> abe3k, nice!
[19:40] <E-XtraCt> when I'm trying to boot to my vista from the GRUB menu I get the following error: " Error 23: Error while parsing number | Press any key to continue " how can I fix it ?
[19:40] <Ward1983> i thought it was commonly used these days
[19:40] <netsrot> ikonia: Are you still there? did I ask a bad question?
[19:41] <DasEI> Ward1983: why is it there ? have clients around ?
[19:41] <relik77080> hey can someone tell me if there is a way to make apps load faster? at the moment there seems to be a long wait (eg over 15 sec for some apps) _ I have a fast comp btw
[19:41] <jim_p> oh well... i installed tahoma by hand
[19:41] <Torr> hi, I have installed Ubunto 8 to a fat32 drive due to lack of anyother hd, Ubuntu didn't want about formating the drive or anything, now I  can't access my files I had on that hd anymore. What can I do?
[19:41] <david_> marenostrum, I posted my question did you see it
[19:42] <david_> mpalatnik, so no answers ?
[19:42] <Ward1983> DasEI, huh? dunno what you mean
[19:42] <mpalatnik> david_: i don't get paid to help you
[19:42] <ruadh> Thanks, Pici
[19:42] <captain_> hello
[19:42] <mpalatnik> so don't be surprised if i don't answer right away
[19:42] <mpalatnik> there's 1400 people here, so you might see if one of them can help you
[19:43] <david_> mpalatnik, no, but you were sure fast with sarcasm assuming Im a newb because I asked a general question, then I posed a techincal one and no answers, in the future refrain from being sarcastic to people right away cheers
[19:43] <mpalatnik> welcome to ignore
[19:43] <david_> mpalatnik, you too douche
[19:43] <robbmunson> !ettiquette
[19:43] <robbmunson> !attitude
[19:43] <Solarium> Guys would some one be willing to try and help me sort our a driver for my video card (or at least a work around) so that i could have 3d effects ?
[19:43] <mpalatnik> no kiddin'.. sheesh
[19:44] <david_> mpalatnik, he was talking to you too
[19:44] <robbmunson> Play nice guys, please.
[19:44] <david_> robbmunson,  def just no need to be super sarcastic without reason lol
[19:45] <david_> anyways I'll solve it myself  regardless
[19:45] <Ward1983> DasEI, i intend to use it to boot on multiple systems, as it boots the same as the liveCD it works on pretty much any computer
[19:45] <Ward1983> DasEI, if thats what you meant
[19:45] <DasEI> Ward1983: I think your sys is coplicated, why (and even raided) not have 2,3,4 systems on the first hd(s), the 160 for storage and the 1000 for backup ?
[19:46] <david_> Ward1983,  what is the problem Im sorry I missed your posts
[19:46] <Ward1983> DasEI, i do have that
[19:46] <ubd> how do i change the frequecy/channel of the wireless
[19:46] <lawstudent> how do i find out my hardware info in ubuntu 8.10
[19:46] <Ward1983> DasEI, i just use this comp to create the disk, the comp itself has several normal OSes :)
[19:46] <Ward1983> david_, ill try to explain
[19:47] <mpalatnik> ubd: of your wireless what?
[19:47] <lawstudent> need to see if my wireless device is recognized
[19:47] <nbeebo> relik77080 couldnt find anything that could help me... well thanks anyway :D
[19:47] <Solarium> lawstudent: lshw
[19:47] <Solarium> in console
[19:47] <SuNDeC> lawstudent, use the command $ lshw
[19:47] <mpalatnik> lawstudent: or lspci
[19:47] <whiplash000> jimcooncat: dd did what I wanted it to do, but the data it read was what I wanted it to change it to (without me doing anything to it 0_o) so I'm gonna try something else
[19:47] <ubd> mpalatnik, laptops wireless thing
[19:47] <Solarium> i personnaly use lshw -html easier for me figure it out "P
[19:47] <Ward1983> david_, i used unetbootin to create a bootable partition on my external harddrive (connected trough USB) and after it was ready i booted from my newly created bootable partition, only if i rightclick "Filesystem" in nautilus it says i only have 800MB or something free
[19:47] <mpalatnik> ubd: the wireless channel by the access point -- not by the client
[19:47] <Ward1983> david_, and the partition i told unetbootin to use is 95GB
[19:48] <lawstudent> Solarium, SuNDeC mpalatnik nothing in System/Prefs or sys/admn?
[19:48] <david_> Ward1983,  are you using raid or LVM?
[19:48] <mpalatnik> lawstudent: are you looking for a grapical way to do this?
[19:48] <Solarium> lawstudent: you can install sysinfo
[19:48] <lawstudent> mpalatnik, if there is
[19:48] <Ward1983> david_, fakeraid on 2 of my internal disks
[19:48] <ubd> mpalatnik, are you sure about thus
[19:48] <Ward1983> david_, (a raid0 array)
[19:48] <Solarium> lawstudent its graphical
[19:48] <david_> Ward1983,  ok is the raid soft raid?
[19:48] <mpalatnik> ubd: if you're not on an ad-hoc network, then yes, i am
[19:48] <mpalatnik> depending on your flavor of AP, it may broadcast on more than one channel
[19:49] <euxneks> is there a key combination to move an application from one monitor to another in a dual monitor setup?
[19:49] <mpalatnik> for example, ours broadcast a/g/n
[19:49] <Ward1983> david_, its fakeraid, its somewhere in between, i use it for my windows system, in linux its not commonly used because software raid works better
[19:49] <Torr>  hi, I have installed Ubunto 8 to a fat32 drive due to lack of anyother hd, Ubuntu didn't want about formating the drive or anything, now I  can't access my files I had on that hd anymore. What can I do?
[19:49] <euxneks> either with xorg or compiz
[19:49] <KenBW2> out of curiosity, how much dmage could a Windows virus do to my linux install when running under WINE? assuming it ran perfectly
[19:49] <ubd> ok then i will change the frequecy of my ap. if i cannot coonnect to it ill find yoou!!
[19:49] <Solarium> lawstudent: Go to Applications-> Add/Remove then search for sysinfo, and install it, after installing you can find it in Applications-> System tools
[19:49] <Ward1983> david_, its like those on board fake raid controllers
[19:49] <mpalatnik> ubd: lol, ok
[19:49] <david_> Ward1983,  a soft raid system may take up some hd space which could explain it, also too hd manufacturer mislead people when it come to blocks and sectors saying its 1000gb or 1 tb
[19:49] <mpalatnik> ubd: good luck
[19:49] <Karotte> hi
[19:49] <david_> your missing what 195mb?
[19:49] <Ward1983> david_, lol it says 800MB free and i have prepared a 95GB partition....
[19:50] <joaopinto> Torr, if you did a real install, it was not on a fat32 FS, so you probably selected to use the entire drive, and that partition was deleted
[19:50] <ubd> thanks for helpin me mate
[19:50] <Ward1983> megabyte and gigabyte :p
[19:50] <Karotte> Intrepid freezes randomly on my Thinkpad T60. Is this a known problem? I can still move my mouse, but everything else is frozen.. can't switch to the terminal..
[19:50] <Ward1983> david_, also just ignore all my internal disks
[19:50] <david_> Ward1983,  oh! thought you said 800gig free
[19:50] <Ward1983> david_, they are of no importance to this i'm farly sure
[19:50] <Ward1983> david_, i just mentioned it to make sure it wouldnt mather
[19:51] <Ward1983> david_, nope lol
[19:51] <david_> Ward1983,  ok creating a soft raid, I believe you cannot include your /boot into the raid without major problems
[19:51] <lawstudent> i did lshw -C network. how can i see whether device (wireless card) is on?
[19:51] <joaopinto> Karotte, I have a T60 running intrepid and do not experience those problems, it must be something specific to your model, or installed software
[19:51] <david_> Ward1983, the /boot must be seperate from the raid array
[19:51] <david_> Ward1983,  is it?
[19:51] <Torr> joaopinto, I installed from live CD; not sure what you mean with 'real install'. I did install into fat32 partition, at least it used to be fat32.
[19:51] <Ward1983> david_, lol i dont have iddues with raid at all
[19:51] <mpalatnik> lawstudent: try an ifconfig -a
[19:51] <mpalatnik> or
[19:51] <joaopinto> Torr, it is not possible to install Ubuntu over a fat32...
[19:51] <david_> Ward1983,  your issue is missing hd space correct?
[19:52] <Ward1983> david_, let me try to explain again
[19:52] <mpalatnik> iwconfig
[19:52] <Ward1983> david_, you know unetbootin?
[19:52] <joaopinto> Torr, if you had no free space, your fat32 partition was deleted
[19:52] <david_> Ward1983,  yes
[19:52] <Torr> joaopinto: some googling told me it's possible, hmm
[19:52] <DasEI> david-:I had the idea of reparting the external, if the iso file can't be enlarged, one primary is still free
[19:52] <Ward1983> david_, i used that on my external drive, from the ubuntu 8.10 livecd, then i rebooted, booting from my external drive
[19:52] <ubd> mpalatnik, my laptop has no monitor, the antenna cables of the wireless are floating on the desk, do you have an idea about how should i put them, like a vertical V or a horizontal O ?
[19:52] <sebastian> hi, im dual booting with windows and windows is at the bottom in grub.. how do i make windows as default start?
[19:52] <joaopinto> Torr, it is only possible with wubi, installing from windows, which was not your case...
[19:52] <Torr> joaopinto: I did have enough free space on this fat32 partition
[19:52] <Ward1983> david_, then i checked if i could use my 95GB for installing software and some media, etc
[19:53] <lawstudent> mpalatnik, i did iwconfig. it says 'no wirelesss connectin" for both lo and eth0
[19:53] <mpalatnik> ubd: whats the brand?
[19:53] <Ward1983> david_, only then i noticed i only have 800MB free and it should be 90GB+
[19:53] <ubd> mpalatnik,  my laptop is toshiba
[19:53] <axisys> still looking for a good tool to record my work.. i found recordmydesktop.. is it any good? is there anything else ?
[19:53] <mpalatnik> it really doesnt matter, ubd
[19:53] <mpalatnik> just use whatever is best
[19:53] <joaopinto> Torr, anyway: just go the system -> admin -> Partition editor, and check your partitions
[19:53] <ubd> allright
[19:53] <mpalatnik> lawstudent: are you sure your wireless card is detected?
[19:53] <Ward1983> david_, it must be some problem with unetbootin, i dunno how to tell it to use the intire partition
[19:53] <joaopinto> Tonus, free space inside the fat32 partition would not be used, unless you shrinked the partition
[19:53] <KRF> axisys, try it. but i think its quite good
[19:53] <joaopinto> ops, was Torr
[19:54] <KRF> some people used it
[19:54] <sebastian> hi, im dual booting with windows and windows is at the bottom in grub.. how do i make windows as default start?
[19:54] <nbeebo> when i enable "desktop cube effects and deformation" in compiz-settings it unselects again after 1 second
[19:54] <DasEI> Ward1983: but then /boot will be on the external in /unetbootin, you bootet from usb
[19:54] <Torr> joaopinto: are there any tools I could use to restore the data then?
[19:54] <david_> Ward1983, ok and this where what I asked comes into play,  the installtion you used is it on a raid array?
[19:54] <axisys> KRF: k .. thnx
[19:54] <lawstudent> mpalatnik, yes. i see the wirels card in lshw -C network
[19:54] <KRF> sebastian, sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:54] <mpalatnik> sebastian: this question has been answered many times, please google for it
[19:54] <Ward1983> DasEI, correct
[19:54] <lawstudent> i may need to install windows driver
[19:54] <mpalatnik> windows driver?
[19:54] <Ward1983> david_, i didnt use a installation, i used the livecd
[19:54] <sebastian> KRF: thx ;)
[19:54] <Ward1983> david_, i could have done this without my internal drives even attached
[19:54] <joaopinto> Torr, if you have overwritten the fat32 partition with the ubuntu install, you should not expect to recover anything
[19:55] <Buzzzz> aonyone here who knows how gstreamer slectes audio device?
[19:55] <Ward1983> david_, i just booted the livecd and downloaded unetbootin, created the bootable partition, ...
[19:55] <lawstudent> mpalatnik, yes. i see the wirels card in lshw -C network, but it comes with the word "UNCLAiMED"
[19:55] <randal> i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop i get it installed but when i turn the computer on it does nothing it wont even go to grub it stays as a black screen does anyone have any ideas.
[19:55] <Torr> heck ubuntu shopuld worn it's going to delete the partition
[19:55] <mpalatnik> lawstudent: what kind of card is it
[19:55] <SuNDeC> lawstudent, what is the brand of your wireless card?
[19:55] <Torr> *warn
[19:55] <Ward1983> david_, the external HD itself is just a single HD, nothing fancy, no raid
[19:55] <randal> i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop i get it installed but when i turn the computer on it does nothing it wont even go to grub it stays as a black screen does anyone have any ideas.
[19:55] <peleg> Again, I amm following that howto but with no luck: I am trying sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox
[19:56] <lawstudent> SuNDeC, a card from china, mpalatnik
[19:56] <raylu> Torr: it does...
[19:56] <Occy> hey guys... is there a way I can use apt-get to export my currently installed packages, so that I can then import what I have installed to another machine?
[19:56] <mpalatnik> youre going to need to be more specific lawstudent
[19:56] <peleg> but I get "Leaving `local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' .. What should I do? All I want is to install firefox 3.
[19:56] <randal> i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop i get it installed but when i turn the computer on it does nothing it wont even go to grub it stays as a black screen does anyone have any ideas.
[19:56] <nbeebo> i cant select "rotate cube" in compiz settings
[19:56] <Torr> raylu, I think it didn't
[19:56] <Ward1983> Occy, yes but i cannot remember the name
[19:56] <raylu> !aptoncd | Occy
[19:56] <lawstudent> SuNDeC, mpalatnik  vendor is Marvell Technology group Ltd.
[19:56] <joaopinto> Torr, it did not deleted anything without explicitly asking you...
[19:56] <raylu> Torr: are we talking about the installer?
[19:56] <randal> i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop i get it installed but when i turn the computer on it does nothing it wont even go to grub it stays as a black screen does anyone have any ideas.
[19:57] <Solarium> lawstudent: it will be simpler if u do lshw -html you will get html code, make it in to *.html document and there u could see the exact brand of ur wireless card and find a driver for it online
[19:57] <Ward1983> Occy, you can also just make a list and redownl;oad them if you want that, but i dunno the name for that
[19:57] <Occy> raylu: hmm...  interesting.  thanks
[19:57] <Saga_> I looked at the website.  So I have 3GB of RAM -- That mean I should be using 6GB for SWAP?
[19:57] <jamesclayden0127> i have got a new ati x1950 graphics card. i can still boot ok un-till i load the ati driver and reset then after the loading screen the computer hangs on a blank black screen. alt+ctrl+f1 does nothing, the only way to fix it is boot into recovery mode and run xfig which then un-installs the driver. I need the driver for 3d support with this card. Thank you.
[19:57] <Occy> Ward1983: yeah that's kinda what I was looking for
[19:57] <SuNDeC> lawstudent, mpalatnik i think Marvell is Ethernet, not wirelss, or  i wrong?
[19:57] <Torr> joaopinto, well I was watching so it wouldn't delete anything, I have choosen to use an existing partition and choosen to use the whole space/disk whatever, but afaik it didn't say it would delete anything
[19:57] <raylu> Ward1983: dpkg -l, usually grepped with some something (^ii)
[19:57] <Ward1983> Occy, what raylu said
[19:57] <david_> Ward1983, I would say unebootin may have installed into grub incorrectly
[19:58] <Ward1983> david_, into grub?
[19:58] <Solarium> Guys would some one be willing to try and help me sort our a driver for my video card (or at least a work around) so that i could have 3d effects ?
[19:58] <joaopinto> Tonus, "the whole disk" is pretty clear, no ?
[19:58] <Ward1983> david_, you think unetbootin altered one of my internal disks???
[19:58] <randal> also when i boot ubuntu it goes in aloop trying to boot but it just keeps restarting it is a hp pavilian dv6700 laptop
[19:58] <joaopinto> erm, Torr
[19:58] <DasEI> Ward1983: so it should be possible to boot your regular sys (not external) and from there rezise sde2
[19:58] <cdavis_> someone network manager is no longer on my panel, it is running, just isn't visible on my panel?
[19:58] <randal> plz help when i boot ubuntu it goes in a loop trying to boot but it just keeps restarting it is a hp pavilian dv6700 laptop
[19:59] <Ward1983> DasEI, or a live CD right?
[19:59] <lawstudent> Solarium, no use making html, coz no net connectin on the comp
[19:59] <Occy> actually I'd rather just probably make a complete system backup of this laptop and then dump it to a desktop.  It's all setup and configured the way I need it to be.
[19:59] <DasEI> Ward1983: or so
[19:59] <Torr> joaopinto: no! if some program is going to delete all data on partition it must be very verbose...
[19:59] <Ward1983> DasEI, but the size is correct :(
[19:59] <raylu> Occy: normally, i just backup /home
[19:59] <Ward1983> DasEI, the size is correct
[19:59] <randal> how do you install grub manully
[19:59] <Ward1983> DasEI, it jsut refuses to use it
[19:59] <raylu> randal: grub-install
[19:59] <Occy> raylu: I installed Trac and some other web software...  would hate to have to go through re-configing it
[19:59] <moijk> I hibernated my laptop (new install) and it just loaded forever when I resumed it later. What can be wrong then?
[19:59] <Ward1983> i think i just need a person that has experience with unetbootin
[19:59] <DasEI> Ward1983: take a look, how they are lying, don't use sde2 = bootimage
[19:59] <david_> Ward1983,  isnt the requirement is to have grub or bootloader loaded into the  usb drive? if its a live cd then it could be a faulty live cd
[19:59] <randal> raylu:  can i do that with the live cd i cant boot into ubuntu
[19:59] <raylu> randal: yes
[20:00] <Solarium> lawstudent, it will just show you the info of your machine with all the hardware in a more easy to read way (if u get confused by all the info in the console)
[20:00] <Torr> joaopinto: 'all disk' could also mean it is allwed to use whole disk for storage, why would I expect ubuntu to delete all files, if it is reusing the fat32 partition?
[20:00] <Ward1983> david_, yes the bootloader on the HD works fine
[20:00] <raylu> moijk: resuming from suspend/hibernate has always been hit or miss
[20:00] <david_> Ward1983,  ok so this is where unebootin installs into
[20:00] <stevea_> If anybody has experience with trouble shooting setting up dual monitors I'd greatly appreciate some help.
[20:00] <Solarium> lawstudent, and then u will see the exact type of u card (no connection to internet needed)
[20:00] <randal> raylu: so i type sudo apt grub-install
[20:00] <Ward1983> david_, i can boot from the disk and everything it jsut says 800MB free and it should be 90GB or more
[20:00] <xMatiasx> Can someone help me with a simple CGI script i have ? http://www.nopaste.org/p/aQhYvCXYib
[20:00] <DasEI> david_:obviously there's a bootloader on the external, too
[20:00] <moijk> raylu: any way to make it not?
[20:00] <lawstudent> Solarium, where does it save the html file?
[20:00] <raylu> Torr: you definitely should have read more carefully
[20:00] <david_> DasEI, yes but supposedly unebootin doesnt save the changes?
[20:00] <randal> raylu:  whats the complete code to install grub
[20:01] <raylu> Torr: it needs to format the partition first, just like any other OS
[20:01] <raylu> randal: use grub-install --help
[20:01] <raylu> randal: or man grub-install
[20:01] <Torr> raylu, it was already formated
[20:01] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to direct ALL audio to my blue tooth headset, and to be able to turn it off and on?
[20:01] <Solarium> lawstudent, it will generate a html code for you. u can just copy it to a new file and make the extention .html
[20:01] <raylu> moijk: yeah. code support for resuming for your hardware into the kernel :P
[20:01] <randal> raylu: is it sudo grub-install
[20:01] <raylu> moijk: it could be that you don't have enough swap space
[20:01] <raylu> randal: yes, but you need to specify more things. again, read the documentation
[20:01] <raylu> Torr: ...right
[20:01] <raylu> Torr: but it has to reformat
[20:02] <Torr> raylu: why?
[20:02] <raylu> Torr: so that there are no other files that will conflict with the installation
[20:02] <DasEI> david_: which changes ? if you just shrink the system-iso-parti to lets say 1 gig, don't touch mbr, add a new parti ~ 95 g , fine ?! Ward1983
[20:02] <peleg> isn't there anyone here with FireFox 3 on Gutsy? I need help with that. All efforts went bad -- and I am not even sure what architecture I have
[20:02] <Torr> ehmm ok...
[20:02] <lawstudent> Solarium, the top part is not scrollable
[20:02] <cdavis_> How do I edit the items in the notification area on the panel, Right click and remove removes the entire notification area applet and not individual items
[20:02] <randal> raylu: wheres the doccument
[20:03] <robbmunson> isnt gutsys end of life near?
[20:03] <robbmunson> !gutsy
[20:03] <david_> DasEI, the website says it alters grub or lilo or whatever bootloader your using but not permanently
[20:03] <Ward1983> DasEI, and if i install software :s
[20:03] <raylu> randal: grub-install --help
[20:03] <raylu> randal: man grub-install
[20:03] <Ward1983> DasEI, then i ened to somehow install it onto another partition :s
[20:03] <Ward1983> thats jsut confusing
[20:03] <randal> raylu:  where is the doccument where it tells me how to install grub
[20:03] <rookeeeeeeeee> why do people use old versions of ubuntu?
[20:03] <rookeeeeeeeee> why do people use old versions of ubuntu?
[20:03] <randal> raylu: ok do i type that in?
[20:03] <robbmunson> rookeeeeeeeee, because they still work....
[20:03] <randal> grub-install --help
[20:04] <raylu> cdavis_: you'd have to close the programs that are putting stuff there or disable their options
[20:04] <peleg> randal, until April, but I don't have time to upgrade today (or in the next few weeks). Still, I need FireFox 3
[20:04] <randal> raylu: is that a channel what do i do to see that document
[20:04] <DasEI> Ward1983: at 800mb not much is possible, sure, can drag out /home
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> rookeeeeeeeee: because they work and if the system is doing what it needs to do wel, why fix it
[20:04] <raylu> cdavis_: it's based on the apps your running; you can't do it for each icon
[20:04] <david_> Ward1983,  why not just make a bootable portable drive and not use this software lol
[20:04] <jamesclayden0127> i have got a new ati x1950 graphics card. i can still boot ok un-till i load the ati driver and reset then after the loading screen the computer hangs on a blank black screen. alt+ctrl+f1 does nothing, the only way to fix it is boot into recovery mode and run xfig which then un-installs the driver. I need the driver for 3d support with this card. Thank you.
[20:04] <raylu> randal: type it in the terminal
[20:04] <randal> ok
[20:04] <DasEI> Ward1983: or do a usb instal (yes!!)
[20:04] <Ward1983> david_, because i want to boot it on several systems, with different hardwar
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> !ati | jamesclayden0127
[20:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, thats "Sytem -> administration -> create USB startup disk" ?
[20:05] <cdavis_> raylu, Thanks that led me to the answer. There was a check box within the display properties dialog that allowed me to remove
[20:05] <peleg> No one knows how can I check my hardware architecture?
[20:05] <DasEI> !usb | Ward1983
[20:05] <Ward1983> david_, thats "Sytem -> administration -> create USB startup disk" ?
[20:05] <david_> Ward1983, what DasEI  said
[20:05] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to direct ALL audio to my bluetooth headset, and to be able to turn it off and on?
[20:05] <rookeeeeeeeee> my neighbors are going to call the police
[20:05] <danielle> When I play youtube and rhythmbox at the same time the audio cuts out. I had  been using "killall pulseaudio" but is there a way to permanently fix this? (I'm using Hardy)
[20:05] <rookeeeeeeeee> if i dont get my blue tooth headset
[20:05] <Ward1983> david_, DasEI liveusbcreator == crap that didnt even see my drive
[20:06] <DasEI> Ward1983: that will be more hardware-specific though, but a full (and clear ) ubuntu
[20:06] <Ward1983> jsut because i allready had one partition on it...
[20:06] <raylu> peleg: uname -m
[20:06] <david_> Ward1983, shame
[20:06] <stefg> I can't seem to find a daily build of intrepid-alternate-i386. all i can see at cdimages.ubuntu.com is the original 10/29/08 release. anyone has a tip or a link ?
[20:06] <Ward1983> DasEI, yes ill keep reading for the other methods they discribe
[20:06] <Ward1983> david_, well they lit other methods maybe theres one i can do
[20:06]  * Ward1983 reads
[20:06] <raylu> peleg: note that that's the installed version (i think)
[20:06] <raylu> peleg: so if you install 32-bit on 64, you won't see 64
[20:07] <ompaul> stefg, ehh you don't get the dailies after release
[20:07] <DasEI> Ward1983: simply detach all other hds, and install > 1 tb data ??
[20:07] <Ward1983> DasEI, thats hardware specific :(
[20:07] <peleg> raylu, thanks. I got i686 -- does that mean I have 64 bit?
[20:07] <raylu> peleg: no, that's 32
[20:07] <nbeebo> i dont like that u cant have desktop cube sphere with only 2 workspaces...
[20:07] <raylu> peleg: amd64, ia64 is 64
[20:07] <rookeeeeeeeee> can anyone tell me how to direct ALL audio to my bluetooth headset, and to be able to turn it off and on? it works only with certain audio players.
[20:07] <Ward1983> that would just be a installation on a external drive
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> rookeeeeeeeee: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-230023.html
[20:07] <DasEI> Ward1983:then find out if you can enlarge the iso > DVD ???!
[20:07] <stefg> ompaul: huh?... is that true? but hardy has them IIRC
[20:07] <raylu> peleg: but it could be that you just installed a 32-bit version. you could still have a 64-bit processor
[20:07] <nbeebo> rookeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ur name is annoying lol
[20:07] <Solarium> Guys would some one be willing to try and help me sort our a driver for my video card (or at least a work around) so that i could have 3d effects ?
[20:08] <raylu> nbeebo: <3 truncation
[20:08] <ompaul> stefg, hmmm it was my take on it that they were not available
[20:08] <DasEI> any unebootin-cfg- spec around ?
[20:08] <eseven73> nbeebo: thank god for tab hah? :)
[20:08] <peleg> raylu, I don't mind. That means that the tutorial for FireFox 3 which states "this is for i386" should work for me. Am I wrong?
[20:08] <benj007> hi
[20:08]  * stefg mumble something about stubborn irishmen spoiling a sysadmins day :-)
[20:08] <danielle>  When I play youtube and rhythmbox at the same time the audio cuts out. I had  been using "killall pulseaudio" but is there a way to permanently fix this? (I'm using Hardy)
[20:08] <Ward1983> DasEI, i think its just undoable, i need someone that actually knows unetbootin good
[20:09] <Ward1983> only that person does not seem to exist :s
[20:09] <DasEI> Ward1983:mm, no cd, but dvd installer, clear all unneeded apps > space
[20:09] <Ward1983> triedo n 3 channels
[20:09] <peleg> raylu, this is what https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion says
[20:09] <ompaul> stefg, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/ seems to have a few jaunty days and final but not the full dev cycly
[20:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, still 4GB isntead of my 95GB is not cool, i ant it good or i dont want it at all :)
[20:10] <DasEI> Ward1983:...and have additional parti (later home for example ? least data)
[20:10] <raylu> peleg: yes
[20:10] <DasEI> Ward1983:I don't know if /home can be outside unet-iso
[20:10] <peleg> raylu, thanks.
[20:10] <stefg> ompaul: yup i checked that.... but just this morning i did a server install from a daily hardy server cd-build...
[20:12] <click170> Ok, I give up, how do you un-ignore someone in Xchat?  I pulled a noobie
[20:12] <abdelmalek> hello
[20:12] <Marfi> how do i get a computer to always boot with the vga=771 option, and not have a splash?
[20:12] <abdelmalek> i have problem with xchat under ubuntu
[20:12] <DasEI> Ward1983:8-)least now we got the situation, my you can write a pastebin describing it and what you want with your external
[20:13] <abdelmalek> it's suck when i try joining channel
[20:13] <eseven73> click170: on  xchats menu you'll see Ignore List click on that (i just cant remember which menu its been awhile)
[20:13] <temppy> help, I think I am having trouble enabling my wireless card.  In windows, you turn it on by touching the button (its one of those capacitance buttons), but that doesn't work in ubuntu.  I read on a forum post that ubuntu doesn't support the touching of the button, but it could still be turned on somehow.  Anyone know anything helpful?
[20:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, maybe in a few minutes, i first need to calm down, ive been asking about this problem for hours now
[20:13] <raylu> Marfi: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:13] <DasEI> Ward1983:unetbootin leaded me to a remote iso, with a client booting it
[20:13] <raylu> Marfi: defoptions will help you. run update-grub afterwards
[20:13] <macjason0607> anyone know some good names or titles or ebooks for ubuntu ?
[20:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, that somewhere between chinese and japanese to me
[20:14] <benj007> does somebody here have a problem with the "altgr" which not working in the middle of a work session, without reason ?
[20:14] <DasEI> Ward1983:my head neads a break, too
[20:14] <raylu> macjason0607: in my opinion, setting up and using another computer without a gui will teach you everything you need to know
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697369
[20:14] <jerbear> i noticed that there are packages for python3.0 in the apt repos... are there any for 2.6?
[20:14] <stefg> benj007: stop spilling drinks in your keyboard :-)
[20:14] <raylu> benj007: system > preferences > keyboard > layuts
[20:15] <Ward1983> DasEI, i thought this would be done in like half an hour now im working on it all evening and no progress
[20:15] <Ward1983> lol
[20:15] <benj007> stefg, lol :)
[20:15] <randal> raylu: is there a differnt program i can use then grub grub wont boot
[20:15] <moijk> I get suddenly so many choices when it comes to flash plugin for firefox.  adobe, swfdec and gnash swf player. who are the two others and what is the best? (or I
[20:15] <jerbear> moijk: adobe
[20:15] <raylu> adobe isn't free :D
[20:15] <raylu> randal: did you reinstall it?
[20:15] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[20:15] <jerbear> so what. it works
[20:15] <Marfi> raylu, thanks. how do i get it to boot without quiet and splash?
[20:16] <wcdl> hey all my grub is messed up how can i fix it
[20:16] <raylu> jerbear: for now
[20:16] <raylu> Marfi: remove the quiet and splash options
[20:16] <DasEI> Ward1983:back in 10 min
[20:16] <randal> raylu:  i think i did a ran grub-install and it took about 1 sec to install
[20:16] <benj007> raylu, thanks but all is ok there,
[20:16] <jerbear> raylu: it's the only one that has ever worked for me
[20:16] <RediXe> How do I send text to a printer?     lpr "HI" > /dev/usb/lp0      I know it's something like that but can't remember
[20:16] <randal> it just the laptop will not get past the bios screen when booting
[20:16] <raylu> randal: did you select the right hard drive
[20:16] <Marfi> raylu, i don't see it in the def options, though. would -quiet -splash work?
[20:16] <randal> raylu: how do you select harddrive
[20:16] <macjason0607> raylu, how is that possible ? .. just don't use gui or what ?
[20:17] <jerbear> RediXe: you have to pipe the text to lpr
[20:17] <raylu> Marfi: is it in the kernel lines?
[20:17] <randal>  rayluall i put in the terminal was grub-install
[20:17] <wcdl> my grub is messed up how can i fix it
[20:17] <raylu> macjason0607: of course
[20:17] <Asad> who here plays Red Alert 3 on ubuntu :P ?
[20:17] <RediXe> jerbear: can you give example?
[20:17] <raylu> randal: ...read the documentation?
[20:17] <randal> raylu: all i put in the terminal is grub-install
[20:17] <Marfi> raylu, it is, but i want it to do it for every update from now on. thats the best way i have the computer booting
[20:17] <randal> raylu: i did
[20:17] <jerbear> RediXe: echo "foo bar baz" | lpr
[20:17] <jerbear> RediXe: cat some_file.txt | lpr
[20:17] <raylu> Marfi: it's not in the defoptions but it's in the kernel lines?
[20:17] <raylu> Marfi: you need to run update-grub, then
[20:17] <macjason0607> raylu, most linux stuff is gui now days
[20:17] <Marfi> raylu, ok, hold on
[20:17] <randal> raylu: i tried useing force-lba but it said command unknown
[20:18] <raylu> macjason0607: heh
[20:18] <raylu> macjason0607: that's a strange way of looking at it
[20:18] <raylu> macjason0607: many tasks in linux have guis to "simplify" them.
[20:18] <benj007> raylu, my keyboard layout is ok but sometimes the altgr key stops to work , I have to reboot then to correct the problem
[20:18] <RediXe> jerbear: do I pipe it to lpr /dev/usb/lp0    just piping it to lpr fails
[20:18] <raylu> macjason0607: everything can be done in a shell, though
[20:18] <Marfi> raylu, yup, its still in the kernel lines
[20:18] <macjason0607> raylu, i know if i used gentoo then it would be almost all command right ?
[20:18] <wcdl> my grub is messed up how can i fix it using live cd
[20:18] <raylu> macjason0607: you can use any linux distro and do everything from the command line
[20:18] <Asad> wcdl: explain "messed"
[20:18] <Ward1983> DasEI, ok thanx for the help so far btw
[20:19] <jerbear> RediXe: i don't know, you'll probably have to specify the printer somehow.. have you tried "man lpr"?
[20:19] <Ward1983> david_, thanx for the help aswell
[20:19] <raylu> Marfi: did you choose to use the "package maintainer's version"?
[20:19] <peleg> help... I am trying for two hours now to install firefox 3 in my ubuntu Gutsy, but with no luck. There is a local diversion of /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu, and firefox.ubuntu apparently calls firefox2. I have firefox3 installed in /opt/firefox. When I run there ./firefox -v I get "Mozilla Firefox 3.0.4". Though, when I run ./firefox I get firefox2.
[20:19] <randal> raylu: so what should i do
[20:19] <senethril> uC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[D/openurl   10
[20:19] <raylu> benj007: in layouts, click other options
[20:19] <jerbear> i noticed that there are packages for python3.0 in the apt repos... are there any for 2.6?
[20:19] <raylu> randal: you should specify the correct drive
[20:19] <eseven73> macjason0607: yes 7 out of 10 things can be done with GUI but what are you gonna do for the other 3 when the time comes you're gonna have to get your hands dirty and use CLI eventually anyways :)
[20:19] <randal> raylu: grub wont start is there another boot program i can use
[20:19] <raylu> randal: yes, but it won't help you
[20:19] <randal> raylu: give me the command
[20:20] <randal> tfor selecting the harddrive
[20:20] <raylu> randal: it depends on which drive you want to install it on
[20:20] <wcdl> i installed it in windows and now none of them is starting
[20:20] <Ianbeyer> how in the heck can I remove a package? apt-get remove only seems to remove a very small piece of it
[20:20] <raylu> randal: which is why you need to read the documentation anyway
[20:20] <benj007> raylu, ahh ok, and then ?
[20:20] <Marfi> raylu, when i put defoptions=vga=771 and do update-grub, it wipes the settings
[20:20] <churl> has the nm-applet bug in 8.10 been fixed or is there a hack around it?
[20:20] <randal> raylu:  i am useing an external harddrive
[20:20] <jimcooncat> eseven73: yes, and it's a lot easier to give support over IRC
[20:20] <Asad> peleg: ls -alh /usr/bin/firefo*   ...
[20:20] <Asad> post
[20:20] <macjason0607> eseven73, whats a good ebook for that ? coming in here to ask questions is cool but knowing the command is something dif
[20:20] <Solarium> Guys could i maybe trouble some one with helping me get a driver for my video card so it will support 3d (or a work around with other compatable driver. currently using vesa)?
[20:20] <randal> raylu:  is there a command to see what hardrive there is
[20:20] <stevea_> Does anyone here have a few minutes to help trouble shoot a dual monitor setup?
[20:20] <raylu> Marfi: it's supposed to do that and add vga=771 to the kernel lines
[20:20] <raylu> randal: sudo fdisk -l
[20:21] <randal> raylu: i did it basically said nothing have the commands there didnt work
[20:21] <Ianbeyer> "After this operation, 90.1kB disk space will be freed."... Somehow I think mysql takes more than 90K
[20:21] <peleg> Asad, thanks; I get three lines: /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox \\ /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu -> /opt/firefox/firefox \\ usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu.bak -> ../lib/firefox/firefox
[20:21] <raylu> benj007: nevermin. i thought there was an altgr option in there somewhere. i actually don't even have a keyboard with that key
[20:21] <Marfi> raylu, nope, didn't do it. im gonna piddle w/ it later
[20:21] <wcdl> Asad:  i installed it in windows and now none of them is starting
[20:21] <Marfi> raylu, thx!
[20:21] <eseven73> macjason0607: i would just search google for like "Command line commands + ebook + Unix + Linux" or something
[20:22] <jimcooncat> macjason0607: click the "Help" button and choose "Advanced topics". Then see "Command line" and "Terminal commands references".
[20:22] <benj007> raylu, many thanks, I try to find something
[20:22] <randal> raylu:  another thing is when the external hardrive is pluged in it goes on a lopp crashing and when its not pluged in it works
[20:22] <jimcooncat> macjason0607: if you can
[20:22] <raylu> randal: grub-install --help says:
[20:23] <raylu> randal: Usage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device
[20:23] <raylu> randal: so choose the device that matches the drive
[20:23] <jimcooncat> macjason0607: if you can't find the help button, use the menu: System -> Help and Support
[20:23] <randal> raylu: i typed in install_device it said command unknown
[20:23] <randal> raylu: ill try that agian
[20:23] <randal> sudo fdisk -l
[20:23] <raylu> randal: ....
[20:24] <raylu> randal: you clearly have not read the documentation
[20:24] <Asad> peleg: You have installed FF3 in /opt/firefox/firefox, right? There doesn't appear to be a diversion as you mention it ...
[20:24] <Ten1> greetings all
[20:24] <Solarium> hey
[20:24] <Ten1> I have a quick question; I guess I'll just shout it out
[20:24] <Asad> peleg: what opens when you execute  /usr/bin/firefox  ?
[20:24] <jimcooncat> Ten1: that's what we do here :-)
[20:25] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[20:25] <randal> raylu:  i have read it it just didnt work when i did i might of typed the cammand in wrong ok ill try it agian
[20:25] <eseven73> anyone know a good bash script that would automatically compress a folder if folder gets above lets say 50 megs? please dont tell me to go to #Bash, those kinda channels are always dead, ty :)
[20:25] <stefg> !anyone | deever
[20:25] <peleg> Asad, I have installed it, and checked: firefox -v give me "Mozilla Firefox 3.0.4". but typing only firefox gives me firefox 2
[20:25] <peleg> oh!
[20:25] <Solarium> So i will be giving up for today, seems no one got the knowledge or power to deal with my vga card, cheers all
[20:25] <scientes> i uninstalled pulseaudio from ubuntu and now it works but every time i restart or resume from hibernate it doesnt
[20:25] <LjL> eseven73: #bash is far from dead.
[20:25] <ibanb> bonsoir
[20:26] <peleg> Asad, wait, maybe I should close all of the existing firefox 2 windows before I try to run firefox 3 ?
[20:26] <raylu> eseven73: no, but df will help you
[20:26] <scientes> why did ubuntu drop all support for anything but pulse which hapens to totally break 24-bit wound
[20:26] <genii> eye_pee: Ran into the ninja-pandas, I see
[20:26] <Asad> peleg: exactly :)
[20:26] <Guiri> Hi. I installed xorg and have nothing in my xorg.conf. dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything either. How can I setup xorg?
[20:26] <Guiri> I'm trying to run openbox
[20:26] <eseven73> LjL: i doubt its as responsive as #Ubuntu though :P
[20:26] <Ward1983> Solarium, i scroll, scroll, scroll... and do not see a question :p
[20:26] <eye_pee> hey, so I'm trying to setup a pxe boot server on my desktop, and the dhcpd3 daemon is giving me a [failed]. where is the log file to see what has failed?
[20:26] <LjL> eseven73: for bash-specific questions, it most certainly is
[20:26] <eseven73> raylu: df?
[20:26] <cbarreda> Ubuntu 8.10 After disconecting my USB headset to transfer files to a USB drive I lost the sound in Flash and the sound Ubuntu makes when starting and stopping. Still have sound on rythmbox. Any ideas?
[20:26] <lawstudent> can i download  a pkg onto sd card. and then install elsewhere?
[20:26] <Ward1983> Solarium, not that im very good with graphics cards but maybe someone else is
[20:26] <randal> raylu: i type in the comman INSTALL_DEVICE  and it says the command is unknown
[20:27] <randal> command
[20:27] <piksi> Solarium: i didn't see you in any point even state the type of your gfx card
[20:27] <Solarium> Uhh i see my name
[20:27] <raylu> randal: INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename.
[20:27] <Solarium> i will repost
[20:27] <raylu> randal: see what happens when you read?
[20:27] <Solarium> Guys could i maybe trouble some one with helping me get a driver for my video card so it will support 3d (or a work around with other compatable driver. currently using vesa)?
[20:27] <peleg> Asad, looks like it'll work now. thanks!
[20:27] <stefg> scientes: that's not ubuntu, that's the gnome project which made the decisison to go for a new audio server (and i agree with them that it was needed)
[20:27] <randal> raylu: i read that but didnt understand what it said
[20:27] <Ward1983> Solarium, people cannot help you id they do not know what kind of graphics card you own
[20:27] <Solarium> it a sis 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[20:28] <piksi> Solarium: you will not have acceleration on SiS, iirc.
[20:28] <Solarium> Ward1983, sorry slow
[20:28] <LjL> eseven73: anyway i'm sure i understand the rationale of your question. i mean, if it's a *directory*, it contains stuff that might need to be used. now, given ext3 doesn't have on the fly compression, "compressing" it would mean turning it into a tarball, wouldn't it?
[20:28] <raylu> randal: the devices are listed in "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:28] <Ward1983> Solarium, you sohuld try to give as much info as possible with your question, and you can allways ask the question right away, if someone can help they will answer, if not wait
[20:28] <LjL> eseven73: and that doesn't sound particularly nice to any programs that might be wanting to use it
[20:28] <eye_pee> does anyone know if grub can boot off a CD? I tried specifying cd0 in menu.1st, but it didn't like it.
[20:28] <Ward1983> Solarium, ah no problem
[20:28] <piksi> Solarium: not sure about the new sis cards but many of them don't support acceleration
[20:28] <Guiri> anybody on xorg??
[20:28] <RediXe> jerbear: echo "hello world" > /dev/usb/lp0      That managed to print to it just fine... guess I didn't need the lpr after all
[20:29] <raylu> eye_pee: you'd have o configure devices.map first
[20:29] <randal> ray im trying to install grub on /dev/sda1
[20:29] <stefg> LjL , eseven73 : squashfs ?
[20:29] <piksi> Solarium: support acceleration => with foss drivers in linux
[20:29] <eseven73> LjL: no no all this stuff is on a external HDD, its just backups of various files, its nothing that is being used by the system at all
[20:29] <Solarium> piksi well i don't want play games on it or anything, i am realistic, but some eye candy would be nice looking for a bit then the vesa driver
[20:29] <raylu> randal: you mean /dev/sda?
[20:29] <jerbear> RediXe: whatever works for you, but that's not the same thing
[20:29] <moijk> can i configure the terminal to automatically copy what I select? like I do with putty under windows?
[20:29] <LjL> eseven73: in that case why does it need to be done automatically? can't you just run the compression once, manually?
[20:29] <eye_pee> raylu: thanks. I'll look into that.
[20:29] <randal> raylu: thats what i wrote ya
[20:29] <Solarium> piksi, i am pretty new to linux/ubuntu so could please explain what foss drivers are ?
[20:29] <RediXe> jerbear: I just needed to send text to it, It's just a simple receipt printer.
[20:29] <raylu> randal: you said sda1...?
[20:30] <eseven73> LjL: im doing that now and its very time consuming
[20:30] <nbeebo> whats the name of the compiz tray icon program?
[20:30] <LjL> stefg: depends on what eseven73 actually wants to achieve, squashfs definitely isn't a filesystem for "normal" use
[20:30] <eseven73> i have a lot of backups LjL
[20:30] <randal> raylu: well when i typed in the command it says /dev/sda1
[20:30] <Pici> nbeebo: fusion-icon
[20:30] <nbeebo> pici, thanks
[20:30] <randal> that is the partistion with ubuntu
[20:30] <raylu> eye_pee: good luck. i've had trouble convincing grub that it's automatically configured devices.map isn't as smart as mine
[20:30] <piksi> Solarium: for your card it's goint go be VERY hard. i haven't seen anyone get the sis 771/671 to work with the sis drivers yet...
[20:30] <raylu> randal: ...what command?
[20:30] <Ten1> I'm trying to install a driver, and it tells me that gcc and the kernel compiler are different versions, and further instructs me to type export CC=(kernelcompiler). It states that the kernel was compiled with gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7), is that what I should give to export ?
[20:30] <LjL> eseven73: "du | sort -n" in any directory will tell you what subdirectories are the biggest, any script may be based on that
[20:31] <randal> raylu: sudo fdisk one
[20:31] <lawstudent> can i use apt-get to get a deb file without innstalling?
[20:31] <macjason0607> do a lot of you perfer the gui or cli ?
[20:31] <LjL> Ten1: uhm... what version of ubuntu?
[20:31] <raylu> Ten1: sounds like you're about to install the nvidia drivers automatically
[20:31] <randal> raylu: sudo fdisk -l
[20:31] <raylu> macjason0607: the cli :D
[20:31] <LjL> macjason0607: meaningless question really, also, this is not a channel to take polls in. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:31] <Solarium> piksi, thats seems the only answer i see every where i look, pretty disapointed with this laptop, but i shall keep looking
[20:31] <raylu> randal: ...great...but it also listed /dev/sda, which is where you need to install grub
[20:31] <Solarium> piksi, can you please explain what "foss drivers" means ?
[20:31] <raylu> !foss | Solarium
[20:32] <LjL> Solarium: free and open source
[20:32] <macjason0607> LjL, why would i go to offtopic ? im trying to find better information on my os
[20:32] <raylu> ugh...it didn't even expad it.
[20:32] <piksi> Solarium: foss = free open source software, meaning the "open source drivers" that the linux kernel uses
[20:32]  * Solarium feels pretty stupid right about now
[20:32] <randal> raylu: it only has /dev/sda1  and  /dev/sda2   and /dev/sda5
[20:32] <piksi> Solarium: i learned to stay away from SiS the hard way myself.... good luck to you, i hope you find a solution
[20:32] <jerbear> i noticed that there are packages for python3.0 in the apt repos... are there any for 2.6?
[20:32] <LjL> macjason0607: this is a support channel, for technical support questions and answer. "do you people prefer ..." is not such a question.
[20:32] <raylu> randal: look more closely. it should say something like: Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[20:32] <DasEI> Ward1983:hehe, I got a empty usb here and a second comp...  any data on your 1 TB can't save ?
[20:32] <macjason0607> ok
[20:33] <Solarium> piksi, thank you i shall not give up just yet
[20:33] <Solarium> Good evening gents and ladies
[20:33] <raylu> Ten1: do you have gcc 4.2.3 installed?
[20:33] <randal> raylu: CRAP THATS ABOVE WHAT I WAS READING
[20:33] <Ward1983> DasEI, "any data on your 1TB can't save" im not sure how you mean that
[20:33] <randal> raylu: yes it says thaT IM sorry
[20:33] <Ward1983> DasEI, lol you gonna try it aswell?
[20:34] <deever> stefg: do you run xen on a desktop?
[20:34] <cbarreda> Ubuntu 8.10 After disconecting my USB headset to transfer files to a USB drive I lost the sound in Flash and the sound Ubuntu makes when starting and stopping. Still have sound on rythmbox. Any ideas?
[20:34] <Ten1> raylu: apparently I should be directing my inquiries elsewhere
[20:34] <DasEI> Ward1983:sure, madness is back ,lol
[20:34] <randal> raylu: so how do i install grub there
[20:34] <raylu> cbarreda: stop rhythmbox, killall artsd. no idea if that'll do anything
[20:35] <nbeebo> how can i do so a specific window doesnt get affected by compiz effects?
[20:35] <Ward1983> DasEI, lol i didnt break yet but im about to go for a smoke, thanx for trying it btw, thats probably the most persistant help i ever had lol
[20:35] <DasEI> Ward1983: I just read that the install doesn't differ from a stadard install persistent>< not live
[20:35] <stefg> deever: i played a bit with libvirt and virt-manager (for remote controlling xen/kvm on a server from my desktop)
[20:35] <raylu> nbeebo: you want all your windows to be managed by compiz except one? heh...that's sort of paradoxial
[20:35] <randal> raylu: so do i type this in the terminal grub-install /dev/sda
[20:36] <raylu> randal: yes
[20:36] <raylu> randal: sudo
[20:36] <Ward1983> DasEI, ye regular installation would be no problem, but offcourse i want the live way, because ill be using a variety of systems
[20:36] <nbeebo> raylu, i know its possible so thanks for help
[20:36] <randal> raylu:  that exact code
[20:36] <DasEI> Ward1983: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/  , first 3 sentences
[20:36] <randal> raylu: so sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:36] <Occy> Hmmm,  I guess what I need is a way to completely and utterly backup this drive (dd?) and put it on another machine.  [this is a laptop -- I have mysql and other software configured to run as a server]
[20:37] <nbeebo> how can i check id of a window? im thinking about conky
[20:37] <DimStar> Good evening everybody.. I'm an author of the library libproxy and a ubuntu user reported an issue with compiling the lib, linking against mozilla-js on Ubuntu 8.10. Libproxy uses pkg-config in order to identify the location of include files, but apparently on Ubuntu 8.10, this seems not to reflect the reality. Is something like this known to you?
[20:37] <Ward1983> DasEI, thats weird, since it doesnt look normal at all as you've seen lol
[20:37] <randal> raylu:  got error saying could not dins device for /boot
[20:37] <Stavros> what is the proper way to give a user sudo privileges?
[20:37] <raylu> DimStar: try #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu
[20:37] <asdfasdfasdf> hello i have one hard drive where i have installed Fedora 10 and Windows XP Pro, i have a free partition where id like to install Ubuntu 8.10. first question can Fedora and Ubuntu share swap partition or i have to create one specially for ubuntu? second one whats going to happen with GRUB, can ubuntu detect fedora 10 and windows and F10 kernel changes?
[20:37] <jerbear> python 2.6 in ubuntu... anyone?
[20:38] <DimStar> raylu: thank you very much+
[20:38] <randal> raylu: find*
[20:38] <raylu> Stavros: sudo visudo
[20:38] <DasEI> Ward1983: it is weird, few lines further down they again speek of a bootable live
[20:38] <Stavros> raylu: thanks
[20:38] <randal> raylu: could you give me the exact code
[20:38] <raylu> randal: dins device?
[20:38] <Pici> Stavros: Just add them to the admin group, no need to go mucking about with visudo.
[20:38] <randal> raylu: find*
[20:38] <Ward1983> DasEI, i think they probably mean "it works the same as a real installation, software you install, will remain on your system"
[20:39] <Xero> my sound in wine isn't working, though it worked perfectly before, any help?
[20:39] <Stavros> Pici: that doesn't work for me, says the admin group doesn't exist
[20:39] <DasEI> Ward1983: anyhow, we could try following : use a dvd image and have a additional data parti for the rest; from within ubuntu later unneeded packages can be deleted > space enough
[20:39] <Stavros> Pici: and visudo doesn't have an allowance for an admin group
[20:39] <Pici> Stavros: By default it should.
[20:39] <randal> raylu: plz fast whats the code to install grub in /dev/sda
[20:39] <randal> raylu: cant you type the code plz
[20:39] <Pirate_Hunter> hi quick question when i ran command exaile & shouldnt I be able to perform other commands after that or am i using the wrong command?
[20:39] <asdfasdfasdf> please help me
[20:39] <Ward1983> DasEI, thats a dirty workaround and therefore not valid :p
[20:40] <mFacenet1> my usb controller seems to be locking up, where do I look for the error messages in that regards
[20:40] <Ward1983> DasEI, maybe i can make a installer blueray first :p
[20:40] <mFacenet1> regard*
[20:40] <Stavros> Pici: this is odd...
[20:40] <nbeebo> how do i remove window decoration from one window with compiz?
[20:40] <LjL> Stavros, are you, like, on ubuntu...?
[20:40] <DasEI> Ward1983: eeerm, I won't rewrite unetbootin tonight
[20:40] <Saga_> Anybody here know LVM + Cryptsetup?
[20:40] <raylu> randal: what was the error?
[20:40] <Stavros> LjL: 8.10, yes
[20:40] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, yes ubuntu and fedora can share swap space
[20:40] <randal> raylu: could not find/boot
[20:40] <LjL> Stavros: and "grep admin /etc/group" returns nothing?
[20:40] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, oh okay thanks
[20:41] <Saga_> I'm trying to set up LVM + Cryptsetup (w/ LuksOpen).  Do I LVM the whole partition?
[20:41] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, second there is a way, it's called chainloading, but it's complicated
[20:41] <raylu> randal: do you have /boot? ls /boot
[20:41] <asdfasdfasdf> what about grub can ubuntu detect fedora and its kernel changes?
[20:41] <randal> raylu: i think i typed the code in rong i typed in sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[20:41] <SuNDeC> anyone know how to list a directory in tree structure?
[20:41] <Ward1983> DasEI, im allready more then gratefull for the help you gave me so far so if you cannot help any further im still glad for the help received
[20:41] <Stavros> nope
[20:41] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, ahhh hmm is there a guide?
[20:41] <randal> raylu: idk
[20:41] <Stavros> there's a sudo group
[20:41] <raylu> randal: you're on a livecd right now, right?
[20:41] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, h/o i've got it bookmarked :P
[20:41] <Ward1983> DasEI, but i just dont think its a acceptable option
[20:41] <Stavros> and the appropriate line in visudo is commented out
[20:41] <Pici> Stavros: Is this a custom install? Or a distro based off of ubuntu 8.10?
[20:41] <Ward1983> DasEI, brb
[20:41] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, thanks
[20:42] <Pirate_Hunter> hi quick question when i ran command exaile & shouldnt I be able to perform other commands after that or am i using the wrong command?
[20:42] <cbarreda> raylu, killall artsd did not work. I added a user and that user has sound in flash and on the startup. My account only has sound on rythmbox
[20:42] <Stavros> Pici: it's on a virtual server, so it might be a bit custom, i'm not sure
[20:42] <randal> raylu: ya
[20:42] <Pici> Stavros: A linode?
[20:42] <macjason0607> guys say i install an application and it dosen't show up in my menus .. how can i add it to my menus ?
[20:42] <Stavros> Pici: i don't know what that is
[20:42] <randal> raylu: did i type the code in right
[20:42] <Stavros> Pici: it's a slicehost virtual server
[20:43] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, sorry for the wait, here it is http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[20:43] <ziroday> macjason0607: what is the programs name?
[20:43] <raylu> randal: you'll have to mount sda1 first, then
[20:43] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, no problem thank you :)
[20:43] <macjason0607> ziroday, chmsee .. i found it in my menu .. i couldn't find it at first
[20:43] <randal> raylu:  how do you mount
[20:43] <raylu> randal: open your places menu. is the linux partition there?
[20:43] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone answer my question please cause im not sure if the command im using is correct
[20:44] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, this is the bit you want http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Third_method_chainloader_boot
[20:44] <worldcitizen> how can I copy/paste to file system folders? I can't do it ;(
[20:44] <raylu> cbarreda: check the groups of both users, i suppos
[20:44] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, no problem, glad to help =]
[20:44] <randal> raylu: ya the hard drive is there
[20:44] <raylu> Pirate_Hunter: exaile &
[20:44] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: that correct, press enter afterwards
[20:44] <Xero> sound in wine isnt working, though it was before. any help?
[20:44] <raylu> !permissions | worldcitizen
[20:45] <randal> raylu: under /boot there is grub bot it wont boot to grub
[20:45] <worldcitizen> alright thanks
[20:45] <raylu> randal: /boot of your linux partition or /boot of the livecd?
[20:45] <randal> raylu: could it be its an external harddrive
[20:45] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[20:45] <randal> raylu: its /boot from the linux partistion
[20:45] <inktri> i've got a opengl/glut realtime simulation. what's the easiest way to generate a video of it in action?
[20:45] <raylu> randal: set the root of the grub-install the /boot on the linux partition
[20:46] <inktri> what's the best program tot record a window?
[20:46] <cbarreda> raylu groups are the same. This is weird.
[20:46] <randal> raylu: how
[20:46] <LjL> !info istanbul | inktri
[20:46] <Pici> Stavros: You may need to setup an admin group manually then if you want it to use the way that ubuntu is normally setup.
[20:46] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday, raylu, that is what I thought but terminal gives me output from exaile instead of allowing me to use other commands, so im not so sure
[20:46] <raylu> randal: grub-install --help. i can't help you much more than this
[20:46] <Stavros> Pici: i did, but it's odd how this is not default... anyway, thanks for your help, it works now
[20:46] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: you can use other commands, just hit enter after typing in exaile &
[20:46] <randal> raylu: so when i install ubuntu change the mounted partistion to /boot
[20:46] <sweetgum> can someone tell me the name of the xorg11-dev package needed to install wine?
[20:47] <sweetgum> the specific name please
[20:47] <Xero> i need help, my sound in wine isnt working, though it was before. any help?
[20:47] <sweetgum> so i can sudo apt-get install <this>
[20:47] <raylu> sweetgum: why?
[20:47] <sweetgum> raylu: im installing it from source
[20:47] <sweetgum> raylue: using ./wineinstall
[20:47] <Pici> sweetgum: xorg-dev
[20:47] <raylu> cbarreda: you could try messing with (killing) pulseaudio. i don't know much about what happens after that, though
[20:47] <randal> raylu: yes or no
[20:47] <Dekkong> Xero: what player do you use?
[20:47] <raylu> sweetgum: apt-get builddep wine
[20:47] <sweetgum> pici: thanks
[20:47] <randal> so i change the mount to /boot
[20:47] <Xero> Dekkong, sorry what do you mean?
[20:48] <raylu> sweetgum: *build-dep
[20:48] <Dekkong> Xero: you said that you sound did not work? are you trying to play music?
[20:48] <randal> raylu: i gtg is that a yes or no
[20:48] <cactux> Good evening
[20:48] <Xero> Dekkong, no, i'm trying to use rosetta stone, but sound isn't working in windows audacity either
[20:49] <randal> raylu: thanks for the help anyways i gtg
[20:49] <cactux> Is it possible to watch movie with gthumb?
[20:49] <Dekkong> Xero: ok then I cant help you sry :(
[20:49] <macjason0607> speaking on questions .. installed avant-window-manager .. i have tried to uninstall it already using apt-get remove and some other stuff .. still no luck .. any ideas ?
[20:49] <Xero> Dekkong, not to worry :)
[20:49] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, wow it is hard i think ill vmware this before trying it for real :D
[20:49] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday: oooh didnt know that thank you
[20:50] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[20:50] <Xero> asdfasdfasdf, i did warn you xD it is perfectly safe though to just install ubuntu now, though kernel updates for fedora won't show up in GRUB unless you add them manually
[20:50] <raylu> cactux: ...why?
[20:50] <ziroday> Pirate_Hunter: if you want to have it so when you close the terminal but exaile should still live you can do exaile & disown
[20:50] <cactux> gthumb displays a thumbnail for images, and the icon of a movie for .avi files. A double-clic on the movie icon juste opens a grey area
[20:50] <pyrak> totem crashes whenever i try to play a dvd
[20:50] <pyrak> and vlc doesn't do anything
[20:50] <JugglerLKR> hi all
[20:50] <cactux> raylu: because gthumb displays the icon of a movie
[20:51] <Xero> pyrak: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[20:51] <raylu> cactux: heh. no, it's not able to play movies
[20:51] <JugglerLKR> anyone with 8.10 and logitech ultrax media desktop?
[20:51] <cactux> if gthumb can not play movie, it should just not display them in icons
[20:51] <Soliloquial> Ubuntu is for xhosans
[20:51] <lufis> I'm running a completely fresh install of Intrepid and my hard drive is spinning down way too much. Any ideas? I thought that this was fixed in previous versions
[20:51] <asdfasdfasdf> Xero, yeah that's easy but since Fedora is my main OS (no offense to the chan) i want it's own grub with the solar theme and all :))
[20:51] <raylu> cactux: that's not true
[20:51] <pyrak> Xero, apt-get says: Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[20:52] <raylu> cactux: extracting a frame and decoding in real-time are completely different tasks
[20:52] <lufis> pyrak: have the medibuntu repositories added?
[20:52] <cbarreda> How do I un-install flash?
[20:52] <raylu> asdfasdfasdf:
[20:52] <lufis> cbarreda: how did you install it?
[20:52] <raylu> ack.
[20:52] <Xero> pyrak : ah, you need to install that. to install it you need to add the medibuntu repos, i'll find you a link =]
[20:52] <PrebenR> anybody experience with ISDN in Ubuntu 8.10 ? Going to install it in a machine with only ISDN conenction to the net. Does it work?
[20:52] <cactux> raylu: if there are several files in a directory,, such as .jpg, .avi .gif and .txt : gthumb displays icons or thumbnails for images and movie, not for the text file
[20:52] <cbarreda> From the web site.
[20:53] <raylu> cactux: make your icons bigger
[20:53] <billll_> hey I using xubuntu how does one connetc to there router through xubuntu?
[20:53] <cactux> raylu: I do think that this is not correct
[20:53] <cbarreda> lufis From the web site.
[20:53] <cactux> raylu: ???
[20:53] <raylu> asdfasdfasdf: you should consider making /boot a separate partition
[20:53] <lufis> cbarreda: navigate to /usr/lib/mozilla/firefox/plugins or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and delete the libflashplayer.so file
[20:53] <Xero> pyrak, here, read up :P https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:53] <cbarreda> lufis ok thanks
[20:53] <diffred> Please I really need help. I have a .tar file that when I try to extract it gives me: tar: Unexpected EOF in archive,tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[20:53] <cactux> raylu: the icon size has nothing to do here
[20:53] <JugglerLKR> any mouse configuration guru for 8.10?
[20:53] <asdfasdfasdf> raylu, i read something about it ill check thx
[20:54] <raylu> diffred: try tar xfj and tar xfz
[20:54] <raylu> cactux: iirc, konqueror and dolphin (kde file browsers) only showed text previews if the icons were large enough
[20:54] <cactux> diffred: try first a "file yourfile.tar" to check if it is really a tar file
[20:55] <diffred> cactux: file abdp3151208.tar abdp3151208.tar: POSIX tar archive (GNU),diffred@fredlab:~/Desktop$
[20:55] <cactux> raylu: this part is ok with gthumb
[20:55] <JugglerLKR> anyone can help with mouse config in 8.10?
[20:55] <diffred> raylu: xfj failed, tar: j: Cannot open: No such file or directorytar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[20:55] <raylu> diffred: um...what? how are you extracting the file?
[20:55] <Pirate_Hunter> ziroday: oh ok thanx didnt know that, I doubt i'll close terminal it is stuck on my desktop but should be good just encase terminal ever crashes
[20:55] <cactux> diffred: did you try tar tvf ?
[20:56] <diffred> raylu: tar -xfj abdp3151208.tar
[20:56] <cactux> (t for test)
[20:56] <Sarten-X> Does anyone know of any problems with the alnernate installer?
[20:56] <Sarten-X> alternate*
[20:56] <diffred> cactux: tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[20:56] <billll_> hey I using xubuntu how does one connetc to there router through xubuntu?
[20:56] <lufis> billll_: to configure it?
[20:56] <raylu> Pirate_Hunter: any reason you cant just use alt+f2?
[20:56] <billll_> lufis: yes
[20:57] <cactux> diffred: your tar file is damaged. I don't know what to do then
[20:57] <raylu> diffred: don't use the -
[20:57] <lufis> billll_: should be the same way you did in windows or mac os if it's a web interface
[20:57] <Xero> Sarten-X, it doesn't have a liveCD (ofc...) but do you mean 8.04 or 8.10?
[20:57] <billll_> trying to connetc throw browser but I may have route rnumber wrong
[20:57] <Sarten-X> Xero: 8.10
[20:57] <raylu> diffred: tar tvf abd...
[20:57] <billll_> anywyas I can find the number through xubuntu through the terminal?
[20:57] <Shortguy109> Hey guys. Can anyone help me connect to google talk using Kopete? I've found a few resources on the topic but I still don't get connected.
[20:57] <lufis> billll_: what number? the password?
[20:57] <diffred> raylu: tar: Unexpected EOF in archive :(
[20:57] <cactux> raylu: let me summarize. when there are several file types in a folder, gthumb displays icons for the file types it "manages" (.jpg, .gif), and do not display the other (.txt). That's ok
[20:58] <billll_> like the default gateway
[20:58] <Sarten-X> I've burned it to several disks, of 2 different brands, on different burners, and tested it in different readers. Nothing has been successful.
[20:58] <Pirate_Hunter> raylu: that beats the point of having a terminal in your desktop especially how long it took me to theme it :p
[20:58] <raylu> diffred: ok, then what cactux said
[20:58] <POSSY_99> hello people
[20:58] <lufis> billll_: oh... are you using dhcp?
[20:58] <Sarten-X> the integrity test always fails
[20:58] <cactux> raylu: for .jpg, .gif and other images, it displays a thumbnail. Fine. A double-clic will open them big. Great.
[20:58] <raylu> Pirate_Hunter: ...no it doesn't. running guis in a terminal makes no sense
[20:58] <Xero> Sarten-X, have you tried burning at a lowlowLOW speed like 4x?
[20:58] <cactux> raylu: the problem is for .avi : it does not hide them, so it should handle them, right? but a double-clic does nothing
[20:58] <Sarten-X> that's what everything but the first has been
[20:58] <POSSY_99> i'll be back soon guys, miss's is calling
[20:59] <billll_> right now Im using a wirelesscard but I have a wireless router connetced to it
[20:59] <billll_> I trying to mess with settings to connetc to the net using the wireless router rather than the card
[20:59] <raylu> !info ncmpc | Pirate_Hunter
[20:59] <raylu> cactux: um, playing the files has nothing to do with gthumb, though
[21:00] <Pirate_Hunter> raylu: I think i heard of it might have it on my other box but havent set it up yet oh well too lazy to go into that box
[21:00] <Threetimes> Is it possible to create a virtual sound capture device in pulse audio with extra boost?
[21:00] <cactux> raylu: ok, then why does gthumb displays an icon for .avi files, if it is not able to handle them?
[21:00] <cactux> raylu: anyway, thx for your help
[21:00] <raylu> cactux: ...
[21:01] <cactux> bye
[21:01] <raylu> cactux: again, displaying an icon and playing the video are totally unrelated
[21:01] <Xero> i need help, my sound in wine isnt working, though it was before. any help?
[21:01] <anon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/294972
[21:01] <anon> anyone experiencing similar issues
[21:01] <anon> with slow system performance?
[21:01] <billll_> hey I using xubuntu how does one connetc to there router through xubuntu?
[21:02] <worldcitizen> how do I change permissions for folders? I tried it like so: sudo /folder chmod 777
[21:02] <Threetimes> anon: not entirely, but I have something in that direction...
[21:02] <autopsy> Hey guys, need a package name for an rsync server for Ubuntu available in the repository for Ubuntu IBEX? I think it's Intrepid.
[21:02] <raylu> !permissions | worldcitizen
[21:02] <raylu> wait...you've already seen that
[21:02] <Shortguy109> Excuse me, can anyone help me get Kopete working with Google Talk?
[21:02] <lufis> worldcitizen: or you could just use nautilus
[21:02] <worldcitizen> yeah I'm there already, I just can't figure it out ;(
[21:02] <kurisutofuaa> Having sound problems, trying to get my usb head set to be used as the main sound output for all my programs.
[21:02] <lufis> Shortguy109: AV support or just text?
[21:03] <raylu> worldcitizen: chmod --help would ...help
[21:03] <billll_> hey got a question hopw do you adjust router settings usinf xubuntu? I forget the gateway top connetc to the router through the web
[21:03] <Shortguy109> lufis: Just text chat.
[21:03] <Threetimes> xserver-xgl isn't there anymore, but since then Xorg uses more CPU
[21:03] <Threetimes> Together the whole thing uses less CPU here.
[21:03] <raylu> kurisutofuaa: play with index options in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[21:04] <Shortguy109> lufis: I get the following error message. "There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason."
[21:04] <lufis> Shortguy109: ah, i thought it was supported out of the box? It's just jabber. i know that pidgin supports it
[21:04] <anon> Anyone in channel familiar with ionice nice, and if it's possible to assign certain programs values at startup without manually having to do it by process id after each boot?
[21:04] <lufis> Shortguy109: is there an SSL option?
[21:04] <Threetimes> Is it possible to create a virtual sound capture device in pulse audio with extra boost?
[21:04] <Shortguy109> lufis: Yep. There's the option. It's enabled and the required software installed.
[21:04] <Shortguy109> lufis: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[21:04] <lufis> Shortguy109: try disabling it?
[21:04] <Shortguy109> lufis: I used that link to set it up, but it doesn't work.
[21:05] <autopsy> Guys, what is the rsync daemon package name for Ubuntu in Intrepid/IBEX?
[21:05] <lufis> hmmm... google should have a help page for setting it up in kopete
[21:05] <anon> right now i'm having issues with file copy operations slowing machine to a crawl
[21:05] <raylu> anon: you could start the copy with nice...
[21:05] <raylu> anon: but it's hard drive access you want to limit, not cpu usage
[21:05] <JugglerLKR> anyone can help with mouse in intrepid - xev is not producing events for some buttons
[21:06] <anon> raylu, i'm trying to find a way to set nice/ionice attributes automatically at startup
[21:06] <anon> so i don't have to issue the command manually
[21:06] <anon> every time i need to move something
[21:06] <raylu> anon: oh. i don't know of any way to do that
[21:06] <raylu> anon: but again, limiting cpu usage won't really help you
[21:06] <Xero> last time i'm trying here, i need help, my sound in wine isnt working. it was earlier though, any help?
[21:07] <anon> basically, trying to assign ionice, nice at startup to any application which is being a hog
[21:07] <anon> rather than having to do it manually each time i boot the machine
[21:07] <anon> only way to do it is by process id that i can see
[21:08] <lawstudent> how can  i tell iif my wireless card is supported nnatively or if not?
[21:08] <raylu> anon: oh...ionice. heh
[21:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, what if i would mount the iso of ubuntu 8.10 add some large files untill i come close to 95GB, and use unetbootin on that?
[21:09] <Xero> lawstudent, the most reliable way is just to boot up into a livecd, and try it for yourself
[21:09] <raylu> anon: i never knew about this :D this will come in handy
[21:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, i mean with that
[21:09] <raylu> lawstudent: what card is it?
[21:09] <lawstudent> xero, well my card doesn't just work in 8.10
[21:09] <worldcitizen> lufis: how can I use nautilus?
[21:10] <kc8pxy> lawstudent:  my vid card also is not working right in 8.10 :-(
[21:10] <lawstudent> raylu, 88w8335 [libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (vendor is marvell technology group)
[21:10] <raylu> lawstudent: woah. no idea
[21:11] <raylu> worldcitizen: right-click, properties, permissions
[21:11] <kc8pxy> why does 8.10 keep killing my xorg.conf edits?
[21:11] <anon> raylu, glad i could help, but at the moment it's a pain in the ass in terms of having to do it every time you boot machine.  Coming from XP never had issues with file copy operations, task manager, core OS processes bogging down machine
[21:11] <lawstudent> raylu, it was a $5 card from some Chinese seller on ebay
[21:11] <worldcitizen> raylu: ya I tried that but it's for root
[21:11] <raylu> anon: wait, you could set it for all cp operations?
[21:11] <POSSY_99> wow, the ubuntu irc chat loggs are pro
[21:12] <raylu> worldcitizen: "for root"?
[21:12] <anon> raylu, not that i'm aware of, you need to know the process id of the operation
[21:12] <worldcitizen> raylu: permissions are set to root
[21:12] <raylu> anon: right...so how have you been doing it after booring?
[21:12] <kc8pxy> i need this issue fixed today. and I'm not understanding why ubuntu thinks it's ideas are more important than my edits.
[21:12] <raylu> *booting?
[21:12] <anon> which is why it appears limited to only processes that are already running
[21:12] <raylu> anon: you could make an alias for cp
[21:12] <anon> use "top" command
[21:13] <anon> find process id
[21:13] <raylu> worldcitizen: you mean owner is set to root?
[21:13] <worldcitizen> raylu: ya
[21:13] <raylu> anon: you could run the command with ionice
[21:13] <fwaokda> I changed the "application " font in ubuntu preferences but now in firefox the buttons (such as: submit) don't expand with the new font.  Is there anything I can do about this?
[21:13] <kc8pxy> noone here has edited their xorg.conf before and had it stick?
[21:13] <worldcitizen> anon: gb2*chan
[21:13] <anon> worldcitizen, i don't understand "gb2*chan"
[21:14] <worldcitizen> o ok
[21:14] <stalker314314> hi all, i have themes problem. My windows borders are ugly, and i can see and use them normally if they are in ~/.themes, but when they are in /usr/share/themes they are of no use. Anyone have idea?
[21:16] <stalker314314> any one have a hunch about this?
[21:16] <raylu> stalker314314: how are you configuring your themes? you could symlink...
[21:16] <fortytwo> hi
[21:17] <raylu> !hi | fortytwo
[21:17] <stalker314314> yes, symlinks also work, but I have other problems (not important now) and i think this can lead me to solution to them
[21:17] <fortytwo> when i try to access windows network shares using smb://name or ip in nautilus, nothing happens. mounting shares using smbmount works. any ideas?
[21:18] <jalvarado> I want a laptop to do work on using ubuntu, any suggestions for what model to buy?
[21:20] <raylu> jalvarado: my dell latitude ran fine
[21:20] <raylu> jalvarado: thinkpads are generally ok too
[21:20] <raylu> jalvarado: what is "work?"
[21:20] <jalvarado> raylu: java development
[21:21] <vbrana_> dont get a compaq presario f700
[21:21] <Threetimes> Is it possible to create a virtual sound capture device in pulse audio with extra boost?
[21:21] <raylu> jalvarado: most people would recommend a thinkpad
[21:21] <jalvarado> ok, I think I'll get a thinkpad, seems like there is alot of support for it
[21:21] <daho> Hello room
[21:21] <vbrana_> hi
[21:22] <fortytwo> jalvarado, dell offers superior support, by personally i prefer thinkpads too
[21:22] <jalvarado> though after using a mac for a couple years it will be hard to go to something less slick looking
[21:22] <qhartman> I'm trying to use wondershaper to limit BW, and it's not working. The traffic dips for a second, then returns right back to it's previous level and stays there. Anyone else seen this
[21:22] <qhartman> ?
[21:22] <daho> I Have a problem. when I play movies the movie is blinking
[21:22] <pyrak> xeros, medibuntu did the trick.  thanks
[21:23] <vbrana_> what is the best media player out there?
[21:23] <n2diy> I'm trying to get my sound working on a new 8.04 install. After selecting Alsa for my devices, I can hear the test tone. But enabling system sounds doesn't work?
[21:24] <Technoviking> what button in compiz allows me to view all my application shrunk on one screen, similar to the mac?
[21:24] <vbrana_> whats the best media player?
[21:24] <raylu> vbrana_: mplayer :D
[21:24] <raylu> vbrana_: ok, so the answer is supposed to be personal preference
[21:24] <DimStar> vbrana_: of course VLC
[21:24] <Lexvegas> !best | vbrana
[21:24] <vbrana_> yes
[21:24] <DIFH-iceroot> vbrana_: vlc, but everyone will tell another app
[21:24] <Lexvegas> but VLC is great
[21:25] <raylu> Lexvegas: except the part where it rewrites all the decoders
[21:25] <Saga_> !sftp > Saga_
[21:25] <earthmeLon> Hey  guys, is there any way to theme/adjust the placement of libnotify notifications?
[21:25] <daho> I cant play movies in ubuntu 8.10
[21:25] <daho> :(
[21:25] <Lexvegas> yeah. that, and .flv sometimes messes up
[21:25] <raylu> !ssh | Saga_
[21:25] <Ward1983> anyone experienced with unetbootin?
[21:25] <raylu> !codec | daho
[21:26] <moijk> to be able to install bluefish from the apt launchpad sources, libpcre3 7.7 is needed, but only 7.6 is in 8.10 .. any got an idea where to get the 7.7=
[21:26] <Saga_> raylu: It's not same -- SSH -- SFTP.  Hmm, Although it's SSH-FTP./
[21:26] <Lexvegas> !dvd | daho
[21:26] <Saga_> !ftp > Saga_
[21:27] <Saga_> !openssl > Saga_
[21:27] <daho> But I think it is something problem with my garfic card
[21:27] <raylu> Saga_: they're both run by openssh-server
[21:27] <n2diy> I'm trying to get my sound working on a new 8.04 install. After selecting Alsa for my devices, I can hear the test tone. But enabling system sounds doesn't work?
[21:28] <Saga_> daho:  No, it isn't.  If you install Ubuntu recently, it's not installed for legal reasons.
[21:28] <Lexvegas> Saga_: try /msg ubottu !...
[21:28] <raylu> but without the !
[21:28] <Saga_> raylu: Any suggestion on how to get SSH + SFTP running?
[21:28] <raylu> !info openssh-server
[21:28] <raylu> that'll get you sftp
[21:30] <Saga_> raylu: Will give it a try after its updates.  I'll keep you posted.
[21:30] <daho> ???
[21:30] <macjason0607> raylu, so getting familary with cli.. can i use mkisofs to rip a cd to my hd ?
[21:30] <Saga_> daho -- Look at the link ubottu gave you.
[21:32] <raylu> macjason0607: um, it's not "ripping"
[21:32] <raylu> macjason0607: you want an iso of the cd?
[21:32] <macjason0607> yes
[21:32] <macjason0607> yes .. cdrecord writes it
[21:33] <raylu> macjason0607: m...not sure. i think either that or dd
[21:34] <raylu> macjason0607: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/burningcds/makeanisoimage.htm
[21:35] <n2diy> I'm trying to get my sound working on a new 8.04 install. After selecting Alsa for my devices, I can hear the test tone. But enabling system sounds doesn't work?
[21:35] <thompsbm> hey guys running xubuntu...how do i set the time
[21:35] <n2diy> thompsbm, right click on the clock?
[21:37] <Scunizi> n2diy: 8.04 had issues with sound because of pulseaudio.. for the most part it's much better in 8.10.
[21:38] <daesudalus> Hi,
[21:38] <EEEuser> anyone on who can help with netbook remix?\
[21:38] <daesudalus> anyone had much luck installing ubuntu 8.10 on proliant 6500's ?
[21:38] <psyjoniz> 8.04 alt+ctrl+l would fade window and lock screen - 8.10 fades but when i wake the machine up i do not get prompted for a password - help?
[21:38] <daho> No it doesnt work
[21:39] <Scunizi> n2diy: also, not all the "events" have an assigned sound to them..
[21:39] <berilio> what does dpkg-reconfigure -a does?
[21:41] <earthmeLon> I'm looking for a way to customize/theme my notifications.  Is there anything I can do to configure them, or another daemon I could use instead?
[21:41] <earthmeLon> (system notification popup thingies :D)
[21:42] <shameless> any clue why wine would be flashing every time i click my mouse when playing UT 99?
[21:42] <raylu> psyjoniz: i think it's in your screensaver configuration
[21:42] <Dj_Luck_E> hey whats up
[21:42] <psyjoniz> shameless : b/c ut2004 is better?  j/k i had to ;)
[21:42] <psyjoniz> raylu : i was just attempting to setup xscreensaver
[21:42] <raylu> berilio: dpkg-reconfigure --help
[21:43] <shameless> psyjoniz: i'd play it, but my laptop sucks and won't do it
[21:43] <shameless> plus i just like UT 99
[21:43] <Neku> hi anybody know how to mspformat a psp memory stick on ubuntu?
[21:43] <Dj_Luck_E> anyone out there knows what i need to get my ati graphics card to work in ubuntu
[21:43] <psyjoniz> shameless : aww, man - well, if thats the case, you are probably having issues as wine is pretty taxing on the system
[21:43] <daesudalus> when i attempt to install 8.10 the installer gets "stuck" just after starting common unix printing system: cupsd ... any idea why? it happens with xubuntu too
[21:43] <raylu> !ati | Dj_Luck_E
[21:43] <raylu> o.0
[21:43] <psyjoniz> shameless : and if you can't run ut2k4 then ut99+wine i would imagine would be worse.. :/
[21:44] <psyjoniz> shameless : or did you mean you were running ut2k4 in wine too?
[21:44] <Dj_Luck_E> thanks bot
[21:44] <shameless> psyjoniz: not really, it's just that i've got int.graphics, and the linux drivers don't work quite perfectly for it
[21:44] <shameless> so ut 99 isn't an issue, it's heavy graphics that cause a problem
[21:44] <Neku> hi anybody know how to mspformat a psp memory stick on ubuntu?
[21:45] <shameless> neku: google
[21:45] <shameless> neku:?
[21:45] <raylu> Neku: nspformat?
[21:45] <Neku> shameless: tried
[21:45] <alfdavid> how do I dualboot from my slave HD
[21:45] <Dj_Luck_E> i installed wine on an nvidia card it all it did was come up blank
[21:45] <alfdavid> _
[21:45] <raylu> alfdavid: "from?"
[21:45] <Neku> raylu: mspformat
[21:45] <raylu> Neku: what does the msp mean?
[21:45] <shameless> dj_luck_e : make sure wine is using the right graphic rendering
[21:45] <alfdavid> norway
[21:45] <psyjoniz> shameless : gl anyway :/
[21:46] <Dj_Luck_E> yeah but that was back then
[21:46] <click170> whats a good command line program to monitor the speed of traffic on an interface?
[21:46] <Dj_Luck_E> now i am trying to get the ati card to work lol
[21:46] <Neku> raylu: not sure...i usually work on windows but its down at moment so using ubuntu
[21:46] <raylu> !no | alfdavid
[21:47] <shameless> psyjoniz: it's nothing too hindering, it's just annoying that every time i start shooting, the screen blinks
[21:47] <raylu> Neku: mspformat is a windows program =\ what is it that you want to do?
[21:47] <lunaphyte_> given a reference to a perl module such as Encode::Detect - how can i locate that appropriate package that would provide that module?
[21:47] <raylu> lunaphyte_: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <Neku> raylu: format the psp memory stick to run despar del cementrio
[21:48] <raylu> Neku: um...
[21:48] <psyjoniz> shameless : its morse for 'install ut2k4' xD
[21:48] <raylu> Neku: formatting erases the data...
[21:48] <chorn> I'm trying to use the rootdelay kernparm on the install CD.  It looks like it's being ignored.
[21:48] <davidfetter> hello
[21:48] <Neku> raylu: i know u need to do it first tho then install despar
[21:48] <davidfetter> i'm looking for a slony-I 2.0 package
[21:48] <Dj_Luck_E> ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 with 128MB thats the graphics card i need help  getting to work
[21:48] <raylu> Neku: ok, so what format do you want it in?
[21:49] <raylu> Neku: mkfs is likely what you want
[21:49] <davidfetter> anybody have this in the pipeline, or know where i can find one?
[21:49] <Neku> raylu: yeh probs
[21:49] <raylu> !info slony-bin
[21:49] <raylu> !info slony1-bin
[21:50] <davidfetter> that's a major rev back.
[21:50] <davidfetter> i'm looking for slony-I 2.0.0
[21:51] <TommieV8992> hi anyone, im trying to install skype and i get in the package installer window it says in red status: wrong architecture ' i386'...
[21:51] <TommieV8992> but i downloaded it just from the skype linux website, and i cant find a 32 bit version
[21:51] <Neku> raylu: any ideas??.....
[21:51] <raylu> Neku: ...?
[21:51] <TommieV8992> on the website, they just offer one package
[21:52] <TommieV8992> as far as i can see
[21:52] <Neku> raylu: on how to format it
[21:52] <ceej> Is aptitude not already install on server ubuntu 8.10?
[21:52] <allsystemsarego> TommieV8992, use the medibuntu repository
[21:52] <raylu> TommieV8992: uname -m
[21:52] <raylu> Neku: mkfs
[21:52] <AA1> hey guys i'm trying to upgrade my amsn but i'm not sure which package to choose? how can i check what tcl/tk i have?
[21:52] <raylu> ceej: apt-get search aptitude
[21:52] <Neku> raylu: how do i do tht
[21:52] <TommieV8992> raylu: when i do that i get: x86_64
[21:53] <ceej> raylu: Thanks I already did apt-get install aptitude :)
[21:53] <raylu> Neku: that depends on what format you want =\
[21:53] <raylu> TommieV8992: ...you're 64-bit
[21:53] <Neku> any or one simmalar to msp
[21:53] <TommieV8992> i am? well it still says wrong architecture
[21:53] <Neku> raylu: any or one simmalar to msp
[21:53] <Improv> Hey all - if I need to make an initscript synchronous so it finishes running before gdm starts, how do I do it?
[21:53] <TommieV8992> i really doubt that btw...
[21:53] <raylu> TommieV8992: right...because you tried to install the 32-bit version
[21:53] <david_> is there a way to kill dpkg?
[21:53] <Hobbypunk> hey, I have a little problem, I have a BenQ R55V notebook and the Key for Wlan and the LED don't work, have anybody an idea?
[21:53] <raylu> TommieV8992: heh, it doesn't lie
[21:53] <TommieV8992> i never knew i was 64 bit... thats really weird
[21:53] <raylu> david_: sudo killall dpkg; but first, why?
[21:54] <TommieV8992> dont you need a special win xp for that
[21:54] <TommieV8992> this pc is pretty old
[21:54] <TommieV8992> how weird
[21:54] <TommieV8992> do you maybe know where i can find a 64 bit version of skype?
[21:55] <Scunizi> TommieV8992: you won't
[21:55] <raylu>  4:52:17 allsystemsa> TommieV8992, use the medibuntu repository
[21:55] <Dj_Luck_E> which ubuntu version is good to have the 8.10 or the 8.04 hardy
[21:55] <raylu> !best | Dj_Luck_E
[21:55] <TommieV8992> raylu: you mean the add/remove thing from applications from the top?
[21:55] <wicky656> anyone have any experience with ipsec -tools? I have a an issue with racoon dumping the message: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_address)
[21:55] <raylu> TommieV8992: um...what?
[21:56] <TommieV8992> cause i cant find it in the list even when i select all available apps
[21:56] <Frogging101> Where is the config file for nerworking?
[21:56] <TommieV8992> whats the medibuntu library :P
[21:56] <eseven73> 8.04 is more stable and is a LTS (long term support)
[21:56] <wicky656> not sure were it refering to the mismatch
[21:56] <raylu> !medibuntu | TommieV8992
[21:56] <Hobbypunk> anybody here, who can help me?
[21:56] <raylu> !help | Hobbypunk
[21:56] <raylu> asdf
[21:56] <raylu> !ask | Hobbypunk
[21:56] <kanniball> hi!
[21:57] <Improv> If I need to make an initscript synchronous so it finishes running before gdm starts, how do I do it?
[21:57] <netsrot> How do I pair a bluetooth phone with my ubuntu pc using CLI? I have used hcitool search and found it.
[21:57] <AA1> TommieV8992 check you pm
[21:57] <raylu> Improv: i think it involves naming it with a lower number than gdm
[21:57] <kanniball> How do I set the system locale for my ubuntu 8.10? I can't find the file to change....
[21:58] <Hobbypunk> I habe an Ubuntu 8.10 on my benq r55v and the key for wlan won't run, andy ideas, how it could work? :D
[21:58] <daesudalus> Compaq proliant 6500, quad xeon + 1.5gb of ram + ati rage.. any reason why it refuses to install unbutu and just.. stops after starting the cups daemon?
[21:59] <Improv> raylu: Aha, good spot. Thanks.
[21:59] <Improv> raylu: I assumed ubuntu was using one of those dependency-based init scripts rather than the numeric, but it seems I'm wrong
[22:00] <david_> raylu, I was saying before my comp died, that i cannot log into xfce it crashes each time
[22:00] <raylu> david_: um...what does that have to do with dpkg?
[22:00] <ziroday> daesudalus: tried the alternate cd?
[22:01] <daesudalus> not yet, currently trying it with safe graphics and ascpi off
[22:01] <raylu> daesudalus: have you tried unplugging/disconnecting/turning off printers?
[22:01] <david_> because when I got to either remove or reinstall xfce it says dpkg in use,
[22:01] <raylu> david_: do you have any package managers running?
[22:01] <daesudalus> raylu: no printers
[22:01] <david_> raylu, no
[22:01] <raylu> !dpkg
[22:01] <raylu> hrm.
[22:01] <raylu> david_: then yeah, killall dpkg, i guess
[22:02] <raylu> there was some other recommendation, but i don't remember it
[22:02] <david_> raylu, ok well thats not longer a problem i got dpkg killed
[22:02] <ville_> Hi guys! I am trying to connect to my rythmnbox with DAAP but I cant get it to work
[22:02] <DasEI> Ward1983: still araound ?
[22:02] <raylu> !work | ville_
[22:02] <david_> raylu, no I get after sudo apt-get install xfce4  the following packages have unmet dependicies, depends xfcedesktop4  e: broken package
[22:02] <Ward1983> DasEI, yep
[22:03] <raylu> david_: could you pastebin the whole error?
[22:03] <macjason0607> can i rip a wma to mp3 usin lame from the cli ? lame -h isn't working
[22:03] <jaggy> hey, in ubuntu 8.10; anyone knows why my wireless conn just quits working from time to time? :s
[22:03] <raylu> macjason0607: lame --help?
[22:03] <david_> raylu, Im in xterm not quite sure how to paste bin that error message in xterm I can copy it
[22:03] <raylu> (without the ?)
[22:03] <DasEI> Ward1983: lol, unebootin behaves like the minimal cd, no medium requesteduntil now, but sucking at 600 kb/s
[22:03] <ttuttle> Hey, has anyone here tried installing Ubuntu on a Lenovo X200?
[22:03] <raylu> david_: can or can't copy it?
[22:04] <macjason0607> raylu, yea i was reading something on the internet about using lame -h <ouput> didn't work
[22:04] <david_> raylu, unsure how to from xterm
[22:04] <kristian_> jaggy : are you maxing out your connection?
[22:04] <raylu> david_: er, what? you said "i can copy it"
[22:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, i jsut used the ISO
[22:04] <Frogging1011> where is the config file for networking?
[22:04] <raylu> macjason0607: ok, so figure out the command yourself with lame --help
[22:04] <david_> raylu,  lol no I was saying from xterm I have no idea how to copy it
[22:04] <jaggy> kristian_, how do you mean?
[22:04] <DasEI> Ward1983: did you do from windows ?
[22:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, no from the ubuntu liveCD itself
[22:04] <kristian_> jaggy : are you downloading torrents for example? and set no download/upload limit?
[22:04] <Ward1983> DasEI, i got windows though, i could try it
[22:04] <Frogging1011> im still here
[22:05] <jaggy> kristian_, only irc
[22:05] <Formode> Hello All, I'm looking for a decent sub-$400 US dollar "rig" to use as a server, I'm looking for something very light and power efficient. IT would be used for an extremely low traffic apache server and light bittorrent. I would be putting Ubuntu Server on it. Anyone have any recommendations?
[22:05] <Ward1983> DasEI, did it ask for a maximum size under windows?
[22:05] <jaggy> it's random, never had it with previous versions
[22:05] <DasEI> Ward1983: nono, from live cd you started unet ???
[22:05] <raylu> Frogging1011: /etc/network is the answer to your question, but you didn't ask the right question
[22:05] <Ward1983> DasEI, correct
[22:05] <jaggy> it  works for a while, then just stops working, but my other comp doesn't dc
[22:05] <Frogging1011> raylu: what wasn't right about my question?
[22:05] <Ward1983> DasEI, and i used the IDO of ubuntu 8.10 on my harddisk to feed unetbootin
[22:05] <david_> ok is there a way to copy an error message from xterm?
[22:05] <raylu> david_: um...are you sure you're in xterm?
[22:06] <Ward1983> david_, right click copy :p
[22:06] <raylu> david_: xterm runs in X, which means you have a mouse
[22:06] <DasEI> Ward1983: becomes more and more weird then, because it attemps to install in mbr of first hd <>live ...
[22:06] <raylu> david_: i think you're confusing xterm with a tty
[22:06] <Formode> david_ Highlighy it, right click, copy. :)
[22:06] <Dracie> david_ - highlight, and middle click in field
[22:06] <david_> raylu, Im in fluxbox Im positive
[22:06] <Ward1983> hence ctrl-C even works here lol
[22:06] <psyjoniz> david_ : get a piece of rock, hammer and chisel - this may take a while
[22:06] <raylu> lol =\
[22:06] <Dracie> xterm doesn't do fancy copy / past bindings
[22:06] <Scunizi> david_: if you don't have a middle click use both mouse buttons at the same time
[22:06] <Frogging1011> raylu: what was wrong with the question?
[22:06] <augie> anyon uses amarok?
[22:06] <ville_> Can anyone help me with DAAP & Rythmnbox?
[22:06] <yasser202> welcome all
[22:06] <raylu> Frogging1011: there are many components to networking
[22:07] <yasser202> how can i mount nwfs id 65 on ubuntu 8.10
[22:07] <raylu> Frogging1011: what do you want to configure
[22:07] <jaggy> so kristian_ any ideas?
[22:07] <Formode> psyjoniz Haha. ^^
[22:07] <DasEI> Ward1983: after I gave it sth it calls /boot its now doing a netinstall
[22:07] <|_steve_|> I have audio and audio1 as well as video0.  I have gspca source. I think it is installed.  I want to do video conference with 046d:08da.  What do I need to look at or change for that to happen??
[22:07] <raylu> yasser202: nwfs = ?
[22:07] <psyjoniz> Formode : xD
[22:07] <augie> i can't run amarok 2.0, it keeps running amarok 1.4 for me
[22:07] <kristian_> jaggy : sorry, ask someone else. :-P
[22:07] <jaggy> kk, np :p
[22:07] <raylu> augie: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[22:07] <yasser202> yes netware file system
[22:07] <Ward1983> DasEI, what is sth ?
[22:07] <Formode> psyjoniz, I'm looking for a decent sub-$400 US dollar "rig" to use as a server, I'm looking for something very light and power efficient. IT would be used for an extremely low traffic apache server and light bittorrent. I would be putting Ubuntu Server on it. Anyone have any recommendations?
[22:07] <DasEI> Ward1983: I could size the parti manually like in alternate installer
[22:07] <jaggy> hey, in ubuntu 8.10; anyone knows why my wireless conn just quits working from time to time? :s Yet my other comp doen't dc, and keeps connected
[22:07] <Frogging1011> raylu: and that isn't what i am looking for. I want to configure the connections, such as Auto eth0. I also want to change the default connection to a different one
[22:07] <DasEI> Ward1983: something
[22:08] <Ward1983> DasEI, euh... lol
[22:08] <|_steve_|> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:08da Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messanger
[22:08] <raylu> Frogging1011: oh. you can just right-click on the network manager
[22:08] <|_steve_|> 
[22:08] <wez> hi, is there a way to rename sda3 to sda2 (in partition table)?
[22:08] <Formode> wez Delete SDA2 :)
[22:08] <Ward1983> DasEI, i couldnt size anything, i could only tell where my ISO of ubuntu 8.10 was, after i chose ubuntu as the OS and 8.10 32bit as the version
[22:08] <Frogging1011> raylu: How do you set a default connection?
[22:08] <raylu> Formode: that won't do it
[22:08] <Saga_> !openssl-server
[22:08] <raylu> Saga_: openssh
[22:08] <raylu> Frogging1011: there's no such thing :P only preferred connections
[22:08] <DasEI> Ward1983: how did you start unetbootin ?
[22:09] <Saga_> !openssh-server
[22:09] <ville_> Can anyone help me with DAAP & Rythmnbox?
[22:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, i downloaded it and started it
[22:09] <Saga_> !openssh
[22:09] <|_steve_|> I forgot to add, I have Intrepid.  Am I on the wrong channel?
[22:09] <psyjoniz> Formode : i generally use hand-me-down machines for low priority servers like that
[22:09] <DasEI> Ward1983: a sh-file ?
[22:09] <kristian_> !info openssh-server
[22:09] <ville_> !DAAP
[22:09] <Saga_> raylu: What was the...
[22:09] <kristian_> Saga_ : !info openssh-server
[22:09] <Saga_> Yeah..
[22:09] <Saga_> That.
[22:09] <Frogging1011> raylu: well how do i set one of those?
[22:09] <FiReSTaRT> |_steve_| : nope.. you're on the right channel.. this is the current version of ubuntu
[22:09] <Saga_> Thanks, kristian_
[22:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, i'm sure it was a single file, i made it executable and did ./itsname in a terminal
[22:09] <raylu> Frogging1011: again, right-click on the network manager
[22:10] <Frogging1011> raylu: and then...?
[22:10] <kristian_> Saga_ : what are you trying to do? ssh to your machine?
[22:10] <raylu> Frogging1011: edit connections...
[22:10] <|_steve_|> ok, Firestart.  What am I doing wrong or not doing?
[22:10] <Formode> psyjoniz, I was looking at that. I know I might be getting a hand-me-down after christmas from a friend, but I'm looking to make it extremely light on power, and I'm certain it's a full size tower... Is there a way to minimize it's power intake?
[22:10] <raylu> kristian_: sftp
[22:10] <DasEI> Ward1983: I c,  I installed a deb, when my mbr-protect started screaming
[22:10] <Frogging1011> raylu: go on...
[22:10] <kristian_> raylu : ok
[22:10] <raylu> Frogging1011: connect automatically
[22:11] <Formode> psyjoniz, I was also looking at a little Acer Aspire One, and using that for now, since I'm starting college next year and it will be useful there as well.
[22:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, do you mean this thing tried overwriting your MBR ?
[22:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, the single fiel thingy
[22:11] <Saga_> raylu + kristian_ :  Both -- SFTP + SSH
[22:11] <psyjoniz> Formode : yank all the extra crap out (cd rom, modem, floppy drive) put a 200-250 watt PS in
[22:11] <augie> raylu, I'm on gnome and I still don't see it on synaptic
[22:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, and the MBR of an internal disk???
[22:11] <DasEI> Ward1983: yup, !!
[22:11] <Saga_> Am I on correct fork?
[22:11] <psyjoniz> Formode : i just got one
[22:11] <psyjoniz> very worth it
[22:11] <DasEI> Ward1983: yup, !!
[22:11] <raylu> augie: did you add the repository?
[22:11] <psyjoniz> Formode : about 3 weeks in and i am tri-booting xp, ubuntu and osx
[22:11] <psyjoniz> and its *fast*
[22:11] <charlie_edge> !alsa
[22:11] <Formode> psyjoniz, Are they nice? And I'm trying to get it sub-120 watt if possible. :-/
[22:11] <DasEI> Ward1983:this on live > not writable.. so, time to give username
[22:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, perfect to close a day off, kill the MBR of some OS
[22:12] <Formode> psyjoniz, Congrats! I'm waiting on my "OS X" to finish downloading. Noones seeding it.
[22:12] <augie> raylu, I copied and pasted this 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main'
[22:12] <jaggy> hey, in ubuntu 8.10; anyone knows why my wireless conn just quits working from time to time? :s Yet my other comp doen't dc, and keeps connected
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> hey all, in kubuntu is it normal to use 33% of 1Gb RAM for disk cache?
[22:12] <AltinT> hey, i'm looking for a c++ compiler (IDE) that has code colouring, and auto complete .... any suggestions? i have Kdevelop, but it won't color my code ...
[22:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, i REALLY hope i didnt do it with sudo but im fairly sure i didnt
[22:12] <raylu> augie: to the sources.list?
[22:12] <charlie_edge> !Players
[22:12] <psyjoniz> Formode : hmm, if you are still having issues, i can put it up somewhere
[22:12] <psyjoniz> 10.5.5 i think
[22:12] <LjL> AltinT: color your code? :o you mean syntax highlighting...?
[22:12] <Ward1983> DasEI, so unetbootin is pure crap in other words, bah
[22:12] <raylu> AltinT: xcode, i think
[22:12] <felix-da-catz_zz> So is vmware-server not available through the partner repositories anymore?
[22:12] <AltinT> eu yea that was the word i was looking for :p
[22:13] <AltinT> syntax highlighting
[22:13] <Formode> psyjoniz, It's downloading, I'm 26% in, it's just only coming in at 15-18 kb/sec :(
[22:13] <jaggy> hey, in ubuntu 8.10; anyone knows why my wireless conn just quits working from time to time? :s Yet my other comp doen't dc, and keeps connected... :s I use IPW drivers if that helps... :'(
[22:13] <raylu> LjL: syntax highlighting? you mean lexical highlighting?
[22:13] <mr_boo> would a separate physical harddrive for the swap partition improve performance?
[22:13] <DasEI> Ward1983:maybe the executable behaves different, I didn't have the gui to choose an image
[22:13] <augie> raylu, the gui in synaptic- settings - repositories - third party software
[22:13] <psyjoniz> Formode : :(
[22:13] <Formode> psyjoniz, Do you think it would make a decent little server?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> jaggy: run lspci / lsusb and see if there is a better configuration for it
[22:13] <augie> raylu, I'm guessing it's the same as editing the text file
[22:13] <earthmeLon> I'm trying to make my panels in gnome look different (the ubuntu button, the application bar, etc)  Is there an app that themes these and a place I could get themes for it?  I see people with cool panels, I just have no clue how to do it.  I'm not really interested in AWN.
[22:13] <LjL> AltinT: err i'd be *very* surprised if kdevelop didn't have syntax highlighting... expecially considering that it uses the same kparts that, say, kate uses, and kate does it
[22:13] <psyjoniz> Formode : it would
[22:13] <jaggy> ok, ty ActionParsnip i'll check
[22:13] <Frogging1011> raylu: Maybe I shold tell my problem... I have two adapters on this laptop, one for wired connections, one for wireless. I get internet from a wireless home network. When the wired cable is unplugged, internet works fine. When the network cable is plugged in, there is no internet anymore. The wired connection has the 'system setting' box in the network config checked, and the wireless one doesn't. I cannot change this, because it 
[22:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, i think so, i just had to choose my disk manually, it did even autodetect the right disk and partition
[22:13] <DasEI> Ward1983:probably the win exe comes up with the gui shown on their hp, too
[22:13] <Saga_> kristian_: SFTP works -- How about SSH?
[22:13] <psyjoniz> Formode : i currently use an (somewhat) older HP laptop for one of my production servers
[22:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, the linux one is the same, maybe you downloaded a CLI only version
[22:14] <augie> raylu, does the mirror I choose affect this?
[22:14] <Saga_> raylu: See above -- SFTP works -- How about SSH?  Is it covered too?
[22:14] <Formode> psyjoniz, I have my current rig set up with all of it, but it's on a 500 watt psu, and that's as low as I can saftely get it. :(
[22:14] <kristian_> Saga_ : what about it/ssh?
[22:14] <AltinT> well it's not oing it for me anyway, and i can't find any debugger neither :/
[22:14] <DasEI> Ward1983:yes, just does a netinstall
[22:14] <Saga_> openssl-server cover ssh?
[22:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, the linux one i used seemed to work perfectly, only the problem with the size offcourse
[22:14] <raylu> augie: er...there's only one mirror, isn't there?
[22:14] <raylu> Saga_: why don't you just try?
[22:14] <psyjoniz> Formode : well, these guys are pretty low power but i couldn't tell you what the difference will be
[22:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, the one i used is the GUI
[22:14] <mr_boo> would a separate physical harddrive for the swap partition improve performance?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> Saga_: openssh-server
[22:14] <Ward1983> DasEI, its pretty conveniant
[22:15] <Formode> Pretty sure it won't be 500 watt :-p
[22:15] <DasEI> Ward1983:want to have the deb ;-) ?
[22:15] <psyjoniz> Formode : certainly not ;)
[22:15] <kristian_> Saga_ : yes, get openssh-server, and then you can ssh to your machine. have to configure eventual firewall/router.
[22:15] <SuNDeC> anyone can tell me what program to create multiple-tracker torrent files in ubuntu? i'm currently using transmissioncli but it only allow creating one-tracker torrent files, which sucks!
[22:15] <Frogging1011> raylu: Maybe I shold tell my problem... I have two adapters on this laptop, one for wired connections, one for wireless. I get internet from a wireless home network. When the wired cable is unplugged, internet works fine. When the network cable is plugged in, there is no internet anymore. The wired connection has the 'system setting' box in the network config checked, and the wireless one doesn't. I cannot change this, because it 
[22:15] <Saga_> Oh yeah -- Both works.
[22:15] <bizkwet> hi, is there a firewall running in intrepid by default?
[22:15] <Saga_> Nice -- On one package.  I like it.
[22:15] <augie> raylu, nvm that's only for the ubuntu softwares
[22:15] <raylu> Frogging1011: because it....?
[22:15] <Saga_> Thank you very much -- kristian_ and raylu
[22:16] <Frogging1011> bizkwet: yes, it's called ufw
[22:16] <mr_boo> would a separate physical harddrive for the swap partition improve performance?
[22:16] <kristian_> Saga_ : no problem. :)
[22:16] <jaggy> ActionParsnip, 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) and Bus 003 Device 002: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
[22:16] <raylu> mr_boo: sure. but in that case, you might as well split /boot, /home, etc.
[22:16] <bizkwet> can i see it using 'top'?
[22:16] <bizkwet> :)
[22:16] <bizkwet> thanks
[22:16] <DasEI> Ward1983:so no peace of mind tonight, this was a standard minimal install-cd with a shuggering around mbr
[22:16] <Frogging1011> raylu: If i uncheck the box in the wired connection, and press okay, then open the dialog again, the box is still checked!
[22:16] <klimy> hi
[22:17] <klimy> somehow my keyboard does not work properly
[22:17] <klimy> my numkeys do not work even if switched on/off repeadedly
[22:17] <earthmeLon> I'm trying to make my panels in gnome look different (the ubuntu button, the application bar, etc)  Is there an app that themes these and a place I could get themes for it?  I see people with cool panels, I just have no clue how to do it.  I'm not really interested in AWN.
[22:17] <Frogging1011> !firewall | bizkwet
[22:17] <Ward1983> DasEI, a debian CD probably?
[22:17] <Ward1983> debian netinst
[22:18] <mr_boo> raylu: as far as i can see it should at least in theory be effective to be able to swap separately
[22:18] <Saga_> earthmeLon: Google Gnome Look
[22:18] <raylu> Frogging1011: hrm. i'm not sure
[22:18] <raylu> mr_boo: how much ram do you have anyway? yes, it will be effective
[22:18] <earthmeLon> Saga_  I am on http://gnome-look.org
[22:18] <mr_boo> raylu: 4 gig
[22:19] <Frogging1011> raylu: where would the config file be for that particular option?
[22:19] <klimy> my keyboard has currently generic 104 keys with german no dead keys enabled
[22:19] <earthmeLon> Saga_  I just looked at GTK 2.x themes.  Some of them have different looking panels.  Will I be able to use the panel themes without it conflicting with my Emerald themes?
[22:19] <DasEI> Ward1983: ubuntu has a minimal-netinstall cd, that behaves the same, debian-based text installer
[22:19] <Saga_> earthmeLon: Now find what you like -- I'd suggest you to start with GTK2.x
[22:19] <raylu> mr_boo: heh...i don't think swap is going to be a big issue for you :P
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> klimy: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32591
[22:19] <mr_boo> raylu: do you think one could modify the swap partition location afterwards?
[22:19] <Saga_> earthmeLon: You sure you are using emerald?  Installing it don't mean it's running.
[22:20] <x-kent_> is there any way to do a load balancing better that like this: ip route add default scope global nexthop via $P1 dev $IF1 weight 1 nexthop via $P2 dev $IF2 weight 1 ?
[22:20] <raylu> Frogging1011: no idea, sorry
[22:20] <earthmeLon> Yeah.  I am 100% sure.  using it with compiz, Saga_  :D
[22:20] <Frogging1011> raylu: hmm
[22:20] <x-kent_> everything is works but it doesn't balance much, one of my connections is at 200kb/ps (it's max bandwith) while the other only used for 10-15kb/ps
[22:20] <raylu> mr_boo: of course. you can make swap partitions all over the place if you want
[22:20] <raylu> mr_boo: and have multiple ones being used
[22:20] <av__> hi
[22:20] <IntoxicKat> Somebody know what files i need edit for decrease the Load/Unload Cycles on HD with Ubuntu? Because when the Laptop is working with electric current, the Load/Unload Cycles are fewer but when the Laptop is working with battery, the Load/Unload Cycles are alot of (security of HD).
[22:20] <mr_boo> raylu: just as long as i've got free unpartitioned space left
[22:20] <av__> need some help about emerald + compiz themes, anyone?
[22:21] <mr_boo> raylu: which i believe i still have hopefully
[22:21] <ville_> Hello can anyone help me with DAAP?
[22:21] <raylu> mr_boo: yes
[22:21] <Saga_> Then you should be able to figure out -- Emerald Theme -- You go to System -> Etc and import the file.  As for GTk2.0, you just drag the file into System -> Appearance
[22:21] <Saga_> earthmeLon:  Look up.
[22:21] <echo_mirage> is there an app for creating floppy images?
[22:21] <mr_boo> raylu: thansk
[22:21] <raylu> IntoxicKat: ionice
[22:21] <DasEI> Ward1983: yo, two different ones the *.deb is a 270kb bootinstaller, the other a 3.7 MB prog
[22:21] <earthmeLon> Thanks Saga_, I just didn't know what gnome-panels would be considered.  GTK 2.x was the answer :D
[22:22] <IntoxicKat> raylu: ionice?
[22:22] <Saga_> earthmeLon: No problem. :)
[22:22] <n2diy> echo_mirage, mtools might work?
[22:22] <raylu> IntoxicKat: i'm not sure i understood you, but ionice will limit hard drive access
[22:22] <echo_mirage> n2diy: i try
[22:22] <Formode> Hello All, I'm looking for a decent sub-$400 US dollar "rig" to use as a server, I'm looking for something very light and power efficient. IT would be used for an extremely low traffic apache server and light bittorrent. I would be putting Ubuntu Server on it. Anyone have any recommendations?
[22:23] <vynlwombat> whats up folks, im trying to install ubuntu on a system that uses and HDTV as a screen and the screens resolution is 1024x768 and wont work with any ther resolution.  How do i install ubuntu in that resolution so i can see what i'm doing?
[22:23] <klimy> ActionParsnip: solved my problems
[22:23] <kristof> Hi guys, I have this bug and I'm wondering if there's a solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/298494
[22:23] <av__> i just apply a theme in emerald but only windows borders get skined, sou i would like to understand why menu bar or task bar don't get skined too
[22:23] <klimy> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> klimy: np bro
[22:23] <klimy> is this enabled by default?
[22:23] <dohdeedoh> where do you install OOo extensions in ubuntu
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> klimy: couldnt tell you, i just websearched
[22:24] <Ward1983> DasEI, let me check what i used
[22:24] <klimy> ;)
[22:24] <augie> can anyone tell me the package name for amarok 2.0?
[22:24] <raylu> augie: amarok-kde4
[22:24] <augie> raylu, ok thx
[22:24] <Ward1983> DasEI, http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
[22:24] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know of a good graphing program for Ubuntu, specifically, one kind of like kmplot, but for GNOME or X11 in general?
[22:24] <Ward1983> DasEI, click the download for linux button lol
[22:25] <temppy> anyone know about wifi killswitches, and how to get them working?
[22:25] <klimy> GodfatherofEire: gnuplot?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !info kmplot
[22:25] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the option that activates transparency in my menu i.e. Applications?
[22:25] <IntoxicKat> raylu: I know that Ubuntu increase the Load/Unload Cycles (needle of HD).
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !info gnuplot
[22:25] <vynlwombat> wow this channel is insane
[22:25] <n2diy> GodfatherofEire, kmplot should work in Gnome.
[22:25] <Formode> vynlwombat: It's controlled insanity. :)
[22:25] <GodfatherofEire> n2diy, I know it will, just trying to avoid the extra runtime files
[22:25] <raylu> !info qalculate-gtk
[22:25] <vynlwombat> haha indeed
[22:25] <kristian_> it seems that my nick has too be at the beginning of a message for the users name to be highlighted, how can i make irssi highlight my the users name even when my name is not in the beginning of the text? example: (highlighted = "23:13 < Saga_> kristian_: SFTP works -- How about SSH?" --- NOThighlighted = "23:15 < Saga_> Thank you very much -- kristian_ and raylu"). thanks! :-)
[22:25] <IntoxicKat> And i want decrease this.
[22:26] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: ^
[22:26] <n2diy> GodfatherofEire, roger that, have the same issue with kstars here.
[22:26] <vynlwombat> can i force a certain resolution when installing ubuntu?
[22:26] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks raylu, klimy, and actionparsnip
[22:26] <raylu> kristian_: i've wondered about that too :D
[22:26] <klimy> kristian_: you must specify a regular expression ;)
[22:27] <klimy> kristian_: but don't ask me where
[22:27] <kristian_> raylu : raylu
[22:27] <kristian_> ops!
[22:27] <kristian_> raylu : i will let you know, if i find out. do the same if your first. :-P
[22:27] <tokeman> Hi
[22:27] <tokeman> One question
[22:27] <kristian_> klimy : meh! ill just find it myself. :-P
[22:27] <tokeman> When does support run out on 7.10?
[22:28] <raylu> klimy, kristian_: i don't think there's such an option
[22:28] <Reformer81> I am just curious if it is possible to install Ubuntu-eee on a desktop?
[22:28] <captiancrash> can someone point me to some documention on what a "minimal system" is when looking on install modes of Ubuntu Server 8.10?
[22:28] <GodfatherofEire> actionparsnip klimy, any program other than gnuplot, because gnuplot doesnt/cant plot implicit functions
[22:28] <raylu> kristian_: you'll likely be looking at a perl script
[22:28] <klimy> raylu: sure thing i found it ;)
[22:29] <raylu> ?
[22:29] <kristian_> raylu : maybe some playing with .irssi/config will do it, ill try and see if i can figure it out, have asked the same question in #irssi also, so will let you know, if i find anything.
[22:29] <sim__> anyone on here succesfully installed a trust work tablet 400 on ubuntu? apparently its the same as a Aiptek 8000U
[22:29] <klimy> raylu: u need to specify what to highlight
[22:29] <sim__> i found a guide to install it, but it really hasnt helped at all
[22:29] <klimy> well i need to prove my theory though ;)
[22:29] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the option that activates transparency in my menu i.e. Applications?
[22:30] <sliderz> Hello :)
[22:30] <tvaughn> how can i make something run at startup?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> !startup | tvaughn
[22:30] <raylu> tvaughn: login or startup?
[22:30] <raylu> that works
[22:30] <tvaughn> thanks
[22:30] <Pierreb> hey guys
[22:31] <kristian_> raylu : can you please type my nick in the middle of a sentence! :-P *testing testing*
[22:31] <sim__> i made a thread about it, but its not had much help,, if anyone else wants a go heres the link  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011582
[22:31] <Pierreb> anyone know if its possible to find on what partition a OS is?
[22:31] <raylu> asdf kristian_ jkl;
[22:31] <Formode> pierreb, Hi.
[22:31] <dido> hey guys i'm trying to upgrade my amsn how can i check which tcltk i have?
[22:31] <kristian_> raylu : i fail! :-/
[22:31] <tvaughn> so if i disable some of theses it will start faster?
[22:31] <raylu> Pierreb: no, but you can guess
[22:31] <Pierreb> haha always fun with grub :)
[22:31] <AndreasMadrid> hi! is there an msn client that does support voice calls?
[22:32] <kristian_> raylu : once more, now i will win! :-)
[22:32] <sim__> doesnt aMsn support voice calls?
[22:32] <raylu> Pierreb: as in, mount it and poke around
[22:32] <raylu> asdf kristian_ jkl;
[22:32] <vynlwombat> can i force a certain resolution when installing ubuntu?
[22:32] <tokeman> aMSN should handle microphone
[22:32] <Pierreb> if i have 2 harddrives installed and the second one is XP on it should be (HD1,partition) right?
[22:32] <Formode> Andreasmadrid: Not for Linux. :(
[22:32] <AndreasMadrid> sim__ if so, I don't fin it, just video
[22:32] <Pierreb> as HD0 is my first HD
[22:32] <Saga_> Anybody here know LVM?
[22:32] <sim__> well when i set my video up on there it asked for my microphone settings too
[22:32] <AndreasMadrid> formode :-(  why not? is voice to hard to do?
[22:32] <raylu> Pierreb: yes. look at devices.map
[22:32] <Formode> Andreasmadrid, Oh, apparently aMSN does.
[22:32] <sim__> goto getdeb.net for the latest version
[22:32] <Pierreb> thx ill check it
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> !lvm
[22:32] <kristian_> raylu : yay! i win! "/hilight WORD". where WORD = word that will make it highlight
[22:33] <sumo_su> wlan problem. Using a ndiswrapper driver, connection works when encryption is disabled in the AP but no joy with WPA2. is that a known issue?
[22:33] <kristian_> raylu : "/hilight raylu"
[22:33] <AndreasMadrid> Formode mine doesn't
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: you need to install wpasupplicant
[22:33] <Formode> AndreasMadrid, MSN is not an open protocol. :( XMPP does not yet support voice, so nor do libpurple or Pidgin.
[22:33] <kristian_> klimy : "/hilight klimy"
[22:33] <sim__> what version of amsn are you using andreas?
[22:33] <AndreasMadrid> Formode when i click "Actions" it onl offers video
[22:33] <GodfatherofEire> raylu, do you know if there's an extension for qalculate to graph functions, not just calculate em, cause I need a plotting program
[22:33] <vynlwombat> how do i force a certain resolution when installing ubuntu?
[22:33] <raylu> kristian_: nice. and with -word and -nick too :D
[22:33] <Formode> AndreasMadrid, Try video? :-P Video generally entails video/voice?
[22:34] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: file > plot
[22:34] <AndreasMadrid> Formode don't wanna be seen
[22:34] <kristian_> raylu :-P
[22:34] <LjL> Formode: not necessarily, kopete has video but not audio if i'm not very mistaken
[22:34] <GodfatherofEire> raylu: thanks
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> vynlwombat: you could setup the driver before you run the installer
[22:34] <raylu> GodfatherofEire: good luck with that :P
[22:34] <AndreasMadrid> Formode and last time i did video it was mute
[22:34] <tvaughn> what is super and hyper as keybindings
[22:34] <sim__> andreas, what version of amsn are you using?
[22:34] <Formode> ljl, really? I did not spot that. Not MSN, at least.
[22:34] <vynlwombat> ActionParsnip: how do i do that?
[22:34] <tokeman> Anyone know when 7.10 support ends? I have someone I need to install 7.10 for them
[22:34] <Polizei> well, i just need to ask somebody about it... how should i configure my keyboard layouts in xorg 7.4 (introduced in 8.10) ?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> vynlwombat: lspci | grep -i vga
[22:35] <Polizei>  technically spoken, where should i set up the grp:ctrl_alt_toggle xkboption ?
[22:35] <sumo_su> ActionParsnip: hmm i am relatively sure that is installed (i'm on a different machine now)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: dpkg -l | grep wpa
[22:35] <Polizei> And just to mention it, I'm a Xubuntu user
[22:35] <Formode> ljl, Andreasmadrid, I know Kopete and Empathy support Jabber voice and all that. But I did alot of research on this and I could not find any viable voice applications taht support either MSN or AIM at the current time.
[22:35] <sim__> anyone setup a aiptek or trust graphics tablet up on 8.04???
[22:35] <vynlwombat> action: at what point do i do that?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: if you installed it you have to also configure the wpa
[22:36] <sim__> aMsn does support voice, just need to make sure you have the latest version
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | sumo_su
[22:36] <sim__> you may need to activate cam mode to start it though
[22:36] <retilgam> can anyone help me with my install, i boot up everything but at the point of the install where it tries to detect the DVDRIVE, it can't
[22:36] <AndreasMadrid> Formode ok. Thank you for your help.  :-)
[22:36] <dmulholland> anyone know how to change thunderbird from replying below the previous message to replying above?
[22:36] <vynlwombat> ActionParsnip: At what point do i do that?
[22:37] <Formode> sim_ is also saying AMSN does voice. I'd suggest peeking around. I remember I specifically avoided AMSN because I don't like the interface.
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> vynlwombat: in the live session
[22:37] <outoftime> hi all - running ubuntu on a new thinkpad and it seems pretty clear that gnome is running in its basic video mode - how would i go about figuring out what driver to install to get the nice video (or if there is one available)? thanks and sorry for the noob question...
[22:37] <sumo_su> ActionParsnip: so.. if i can select WPA it does not automaically mean its confirured/installed?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: not necessarily
[22:37] <Fou-Lu> I'm getting a ZaReason Laptop tomorrow, yay!
[22:37] <retilgam> cam
[22:37] <sim__> yes amsn does do voice, you just have to make sure you have the latest version, , you may have to activate cam mode to get into voice conversation
[22:37] <Formode> outoftime: Intel, Nvidia, or ATI?
[22:37] <retilgam> can't anyone halp me?
[22:37] <sumo_su> ActionParsnip: alright thanks for your help
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: you need to configure the wpa, then tell your wifi to use the config
[22:38] <outoftime> Formode, I believe it's intel - it's the onboard video
[22:38] <Guest21832> i just installed eclipse, but can't find it anywhere ... any ideas where it should be?
[22:38] <Dante123> just testing livecd on a piii....how can I see what speed it runs at (mhz) and memory info?
[22:38] <|_steve_|> Anyone wanna help a newbie?  Warning, you need patience with me
[22:38] <raylu> !help | |_steve_|
[22:38] <Formode> retilgam, please ask your qquestion on a single line. :)
[22:38] <raylu> asdf
[22:38] <sim__> just use alt+f2 then type eclipse
[22:38] <raylu> !ask | |_steve_|
[22:38] <rodrego> muy buenas a todos
[22:38] <Formode> outoftime, Try going Preferences -> Appearance
[22:38] <LjL> !es | rodrego
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> |_steve_|: as and the room will reply
[22:38] <sumo_su> ActionParsnip: i just wonder what's there to configure... the funny thing is: i tried it on a CD boot and it worked, but not on the fresh install... its strange.
[22:39] <Formode> outoftime then go to the "Visual Effects" Tab
[22:39] <raylu> AltinT: which eclipse
[22:39] <Fou-Lu> !ask lol
[22:39] <outoftime> Formode: ah HA!
[22:39] <rodrego> alguien sabe porque el totem veo los videos en blando y negro
[22:39] <Dante123> ﻿just testing livecd on a piii....how can I see what speed CPU  runs at (mhz) and memory info?
[22:39] <Fou-Lu> !ask tokeman
[22:39] <Fou-Lu> !ask ubottu
[22:39] <Fou-Lu> aww
[22:39] <regeya> !abuse
[22:39] <LjL> !botabuse | Fou-Lu
[22:39] <raylu> Fou-Lu: are you quite done?
[22:39] <sim__> @dantel  - goto system monitor in administration
[22:39] <Dante123> ﻿rodrego no puedes ver videos en color?
[22:39] <Fou-Lu> heh
[22:39] <klimy> kristian_: did you find a solution?
[22:39] <LjL> !es
[22:39] <Formode> outoftime, You could also go to add/remove.. and get the advanced compiz settings manager. :)
[22:39] <outoftime> Formode: hmm, it searched for drivers and then said effects cannot be enabled. does that mean I'm SOL?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: if you use wpa, you must install the supplicant and assuming your wireless adapter is installed ok
[22:40] <klimy> kristian_: because i found one, although its not really nice ;)
[22:40] <Dante123> ﻿rodrego wants to know why totem shows videos in black and white?  Any ideas?  (I can translate for him)
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | Dante123
[22:40] <Formode> outoftime, Hm. Do you know the card's name, or the amount of memory it has?
[22:40] <Formode> !Compiz | outoftime
[22:40] <sumo_su> ActionParsnip: the adapter works alright without encryption, so i assume its allright
[22:40] <AltinT> raylu: eclipse for writing c++ etc
[22:40] <outoftime> Formode: negative, although I should be able to figure that out, right? lshow?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> sumo_su: sounds great
[22:41] <kristian_> klimy : yes i found a solution @ #irssi! :-P "/hilight klimy" will do it for you. :-)
[22:41] <outoftime> Formode: thank you, I will check that out
[22:41] <AltinT> (well java actually, but i also installed the c++ extensions
[22:41] <raylu> AltinT: no, i meant run the command "which eclipse"
[22:41] <AltinT> o lol
[22:41] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[22:41] <Dante123> ﻿rodrego tiene algo que ver con los codecs  (trata de installar el package ubuntu restricted que incluye codecs)
[22:41] <raylu> AltinT: yeah, that happens too often
[22:41] <sim__> @atlint - just press alt+f2 and type it in to run eclipse
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !xen
[22:41] <raylu> AltinT: my fault, really
[22:41] <earthmeLon> Hey Saga_, I've got another question if you don't mind.  I want to make my panel taller (which I've done) and make my window list take up two horizontal bars.  Does that make any sense?  The window list just gets taller v_v
[22:41] <Formode> outoftime, I'm not sure. :) Never had that problem, I built my computer myself so. :-P Do you know what the computer model is? Or your Mobo name?
[22:41] <Dante123> ﻿just testing livecd on a piii....how can I see what speed CPU  runs at (mhz) and memory info?
[22:41] <LjL> Dante123: have a look at edit / preferences / display and see if the saturation slider is right
[22:41] <outoftime> Formode: it's a Thinkpad SL300 - I think the graphics card is pretty bottom-of-the-barrel
[22:41] <AltinT> raylu: nothing happens with that command
[22:42] <raylu> outoftime, Formode: lspci
[22:42] <miksu> any1 seen AstralJava
[22:42] <LjL> Dante123: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:42] <jesper_> Hi, recently installed KDE session in ubuntu, now i wanna delete it, i have removed all the KDE packages butt the KDE session is still there. Help anyone ?
[22:42] <outoftime> raylu: ah, thank you
[22:42] <Formode> raylu Thanks.
[22:42] <LjL> Dante123: memory info, depends on what memory info i suppose. "free" is a common tool.
[22:42] <lfaraone> Hi, I installed gcjwebplugin on AMD64 to run java webapps but upon firefox's restart it crashed when it attempted to load the applet, is there a fix?
[22:42] <Formode> outoftime, try what raylu said. :)
[22:42] <raylu> AltinT: er, how did you install eclipse?
[22:42] <klimy> kristian_: thats what i found too ;) you can specify that in your config file
[22:42] <outoftime> raylu, Formode: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[22:42] <AltinT> sim__: can't find it that way, already tried
[22:42] <AltinT> with adept
[22:42] <klimy> kristian_: but you need to name you nick thus it is not that good ;)
[22:42] <Saga_> Anybody know how to view your HDD?  I'm trying to destroy a partition?
[22:42] <lfaraone> miksu: try /whois
[22:42] <AltinT> raylu: usind adept
[22:43] <lfaraone> Saga_: gparted
[22:43] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[22:43] <lfaraone> !gparted | Saga_
[22:43] <earthmeLon> Saga_  sudo qparted
[22:43] <Pirate_Hunter> what is the option that activates transparency in my menu i.e. Applications?
[22:43] <temppy> lfaraone: Im running 32bit, and I find gcjwebplugin unusable myself...
[22:43] <earthmeLon> Saga_  sudo qtparted or gparted
[22:43] <raylu> AltinT: that's strange...
[22:43] <sim__> anyone installed a trust or aiptek graphics tablet on 8.04???
[22:43] <AltinT> raylu: yes, and both synaptic and adept say it's installed
[22:43] <jesper_> Anyone have an idea?
[22:43] <Saga_> Thanks.
[22:43] <Formode> outoftime, Try going System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers.
[22:44] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[22:44] <lfaraone> temppy: ok, but installing the proper JDK from the repos doesn't help either. and icedtea-gcjwebplugin is a dependency hell.
[22:44] <raylu> AltinT: and i suppose running "eclipse" in a terminal/konsole does nothing?
[22:44] <outoftime> Formode: nothing in the list...
[22:44] <AltinT> how do i do that? (sorry, i just started with linux)
[22:44] <raylu> !puregnome | jesper_
[22:44] <AltinT> raylu: ﻿how do i do that? (sorry, i just started with linux)
[22:44] <Dante123> ﻿rodrego alguien dice mira edit / preferences / display    y mira si la saturacion "slider" es a la derecha ( right )
[22:44] <raylu> AltinT: are you in kde right now?
[22:44] <AltinT> yes
[22:45] <jesper_> ubottu: that will leave my ubuntu desktop untouched?
[22:45] <Ghost4> Allo Tout l'monde
[22:45] <raylu> AltinT: alt+f2, konsole. from there, type eclipse
[22:45] <Formode> outoftime, just doing some looking about, holy on. ^^
[22:45] <temppy> lfaraone: yeah, I dunno, if the sun-java doesn't work for you, I suspect you are out of luck.  I have not been able to get anything but sun-java to work, and thats on 32bit.  I imagine 64bit is harder
[22:45] <raylu> !fr | Ghost4
[22:45] <rodrego> gracias dantel23
[22:45] <Formode> ubottu: Can you please hold me?
[22:46] <outoftime> Formode, raylu: here's the relevant output of lspci -v: http://pastie.org/339968
[22:46] <bjmuggs> i am trying to install ubuntu on my g3 ibook, can someone help me?
[22:46] <AltinT> raylu: The program 'eclipse' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:46] <AltinT> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[22:46] <AltinT> i'm gona try that :p
[22:46] <raylu> AltinT: o.0
[22:46] <raylu> AltinT: before doing that, aptitude search eclipse
[22:46] <Formode> outoftime, Sorry I'm not that great at all this, sort of new to all this myself, but trying my best :)
[22:46] <AltinT> raylu: ﻿aptitude search eclipse???
[22:46] <raylu> outoftime: lsmod | grep vesa
[22:46] <raylu> raylu: yes. in konsole
[22:47] <raylu> woah...
[22:47] <raylu> AltinT: yes, in konsole
[22:47] <temppy> AltinT: do you need 3.4 of eclipse?
[22:47] <outoftime> raylu: nothin'.
[22:47] <rodrego> dantel23 en las preferencias esta todo al medio
[22:47] <AltinT> ok, that gave me a list raylu:
[22:47] <fep> Hello everybody. I have some serious problems to get the wireless adapter to work in ubuntu 8.10 on HP pavilion dv9000. I have tried a lot of different things like ndiswrapper(wich i never got to work) and linux-backports-modules. I have read a lot in ubuntuforum, and i cannot find any solution that works for me. I have the network icon in my taskbar, but there is noe wireless network option there. When i run lspci and lsusb i cannot find any wireless adapter a
[22:47] <fep> t all. I am sure that there is at broadcom wireless card in the computer, i have tried b43, firmware and drivers, nothing works. When i write wlanconfig it says no wireless network. I am stuck and i dont know what to do, i have worked with this problem for four days now. One of the big problems is that i have no other way to connect that dv9000 to the net beside the wireless signals to get drivers/firmware, and i have to use this laptop to get deb files and suc
[22:47] <fep> h, i have to copy it into a memory stick and copy it over, that is a lot of work when there is missing packages to install packages. Is there any easy solution for this problem? Maybe all inn one packages with drivers/firmware/wireless things that i need? Please help me. Maybe someone got any tips?
[22:47] <joshritger> I am running ubuntu hardy 8.04 and openbox, when I was using metacity I was also using conky, now that I switched to openbox conky doesn't show up, does anyone know how to fix this?
[22:47] <FloodBot2> fep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <rodrego> brillo contraste saturacion
[22:47] <sim__> fep i think that question maybe better suited to the forums
[22:47] <Formode> fep: please don't flood.
[22:47] <rodrego> le doy a restablecer valores pero quedan igual
[22:47] <fep> sorry
[22:47] <fep> i am just lost
[22:48] <psycardis> I saw a pic of a side bar for ubuntu that show network statistics and system info can anybody tell me what it is?
[22:48] <raylu> AltinT: i means installed, p means not installed
[22:48] <sim__> i understand fep, but maybe posting a thread on the forum would be more productive
[22:48] <Formode> formode, whoa.
[22:48] <fosco_> psycardis: may be conky, or screenlets, take a look at gnome-look.org
[22:48] <raylu> outoftime: so, why did you say it was in low graphics mode again?
[22:48] <Formode> psycardis, Conky. :)
[22:48] <fep> sim: oh ok, i will take a look at it, i registered, but i cannot get into my email
[22:48] <AltinT> raylu: ah, seems like i onlny hae some of the extensions
[22:48] <psycardis> thanks guys
[22:48] <sim__> why cant you get into your email fep?
[22:49] <lfaraone> temppy: thanks anyway.
[22:49] <earthmeLon> Is there any way I can make my gnome-panel window list a certain height so that when I make the entire panel bigger, it will make two horizontal lines of available space for windows?
[22:49] <fep> sim: there is a routing problem on the line
[22:50] <raylu> fep: could you show me iwconfig and ifconfig?
[22:50] <fep> if anyone who can answer my question i would be very happy
[22:50] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[22:50] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[22:50] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[22:50] <sim__> if anyone knows anything bout installing trust/aiptek graphics tablets would be cool if you could checkout this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011582
[22:50] <fep> raylu: iwconfig shows no wireless network adapter
[22:51] <Saga_> earthmeLon: I googled and hit on the first link -- http://www.artificialworlds.net/blog/2008/12/10/fixing-the-vertical-panel-window-list-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[22:51] <Saga_> Maybe it's what you're looking for. ;o
[22:51] <fep> raylu, right now im not on that other computer
[22:51] <earthmeLon> haha thanks Saga_  I've been googling for a while now, what was your query?
[22:51] <fep> i am in bed, tires of trying to go on net with that other machine
[22:51] <Saga_> "http://www.artificialworlds.net/blog/2008/12/10/fixing-the-vertical-panel-window-list-on-ubuntu-hardy/"
[22:51] <Saga_> I mean...
[22:51] <smelian> hello  i have problem with my sound its low i puted everything in hight but its not loud hard to hear it
[22:51] <nintendork32> yeah, dumb I know, but how do I had directories to the path? I know its in ~/.bashrc
[22:51] <crimsun> lfaraone: nothing really usable across the board, sorry.
[22:51] <Saga_> earthmeLon: My query was "Is there any way I can make my gnome-panel window list a certain height so that when I make the entire panel bigger, it will make two horizontal lines of available space for windows?"
[22:51] <outoftime> raylu: appearance prefs won't let me switch out of "None" visual effects mode, and I've noticed when alt-tabbing etc. that none of the prettiness is there. and it also just seems really slow to redraw windows etc.
[22:51] <raylu> fep: heh. i'd like to see the lspci, then
[22:52] <Saga_> :-\
[22:52] <smelian> hello  i have problem with my sound its low i puted everything in hight but its not loud hard to hear it ( my audio card ) Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[22:52] <nomade_marvel> Hello!! Anybody from Brazil?
[22:52] <fep> i cannot paste it here
[22:52] <DasEI> Ward1983:yo, now the app is doing, won't accept dvd and I wonder why there's a live cd, though reparting works (leave rest of hsd unallocated so far
[22:52] <raylu> fep: also, are you sure the wireless switch is on? toggling it and checking "sudo dmesg | grep -i wifi" may help
[22:52] <outoftime> raylu: for all I know this might just be a dinky graphics card and I'll just need to deal with it- but i want to make sure I can't improve the situation : )
[22:52] <Vantrax> fep, use pastbin
[22:52] <raylu> fep: or grep -i wireless
[22:52] <crimsun> smelian: please run the http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh script
[22:52] <Vantrax> !pastebin | fep
[22:53] <crimsun> smelian: you need to download it to your Desktop and execute it in a terminal using bash, i.e., bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[22:53] <raylu> outoftime: could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:53] <outoftime> raylu: surely - one sec
[22:53] <david_> Im unable to  get xfce working, after a reboot, I have the error log file, but no way to install or update the packages, any ideas?
[22:53] <smelian> crimsun: what this script for ?
[22:53] <fep> you people are very helpful, i will post my question again when im not in bed with my working computer on top of me
[22:53] <crimsun> smelian: it's a tool written to help troubleshoot sound problems
[22:53] <Samus_Aran> what is the proper way to remove logrotate from an Ubuntu system ?  I never want it to be used, ever.  if I try to remove it, it removes other apps such as Samba
[22:53] <fep> ill ask again when i have the other computer here
[22:53] <AltinT> raylu: thanks it worked :)
[22:53] <fep> but now i know i get respons here
[22:53] <fep> :)
[22:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: samba depends on it...you could disable it in the rc.d...maybe
[22:54] <raylu> AltinT: np
[22:54] <smelian> crimsun: it can fix it ? ( i just reformat before the sound wasnt that good but i can hear now its hard to hear )
[22:54] <outoftime> raylu: http://pastebin.com/d6b138335
[22:54] <LjL> Samus_Aran: it's called from /etc/cron.daily, so i guess you could just remove its script
[22:54] <fep> is it likely that someone see my post if i post the question at the forum ?
[22:54] <crimsun> smelian: no, it doesn't fix anything by itself. It provides some information to people like me who are trying to help you.
[22:54] <rww> Samus_Aran: a whole bunch of stuff depends on it, so you can't remove it, per se. You could disable it by removing its scripts in /etc/cron.*
[22:55] <sim__> yes it is fep, you will get good advice on the forum, it can be easier for long complicated probelsm
[22:55] <sim__> problems*
[22:55] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[22:55] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[22:55] <Samus_Aran> rww: nothing depends on it.  it is a third party app
[22:55] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[22:55] <Samus_Aran> LjL, rww: I will try removing it from cron
[22:55] <smelian> crimsun: i will use it and let u know
[22:56] <_chris___> hi
[22:56] <fep> yes, things go a little fast here, maybe ill post my question with paste from ipconfig, lspci and lsusb
[22:56] <raylu> onats: hrm. i dunno. there are a few warnings in there
[22:56] <sim__> @fep - yes that would make it easier, just make sure to use a descriptive thread title
[22:56] <rww> Samus_Aran: 86 packages in the Ubuntu repository depend on logrotate. I'm using "depend" here in the package manager sense, as in "if you remove it, apt will remove whichever of those 86 packages you have installed too"
[22:57] <raylu> oops.
[22:57] <raylu> outoftime: hrm. i dunno. there are a few warnings in there
[22:57] <_chris___> is there someone who could help me with ubuntu 8.04 and the problem i am having with mounting drives?
[22:57] <fep> sim__, i will see if i understand how to use it :p
[22:57] <lfaraone> crimsun: aww...
[22:57] <raylu> outoftime: but as far i can tell, it detected and loaded the driver for your video card
[22:57] <sim__> @chris - what problem are you hasving?
[22:57] <crimsun> lfaraone: there's always the nspluginwrapper approach.
[22:57] <fep> now i got into my mail
[22:57] <fep> :)
[22:58] <outoftime> raylu: OK, so I'm pretty much stuck with what I've got now, then?
[22:58] <sim__> the forum is easy fep, just make sure you read the sticky topics and use a descriptive thread title :)
[22:58] <_chris___> the cdrom and the secondary hard drives wich are fat32 are not mounting it says something to the nature of some kind of dberror and security
[22:58] <Samus_Aran> rww: I was using depend in the sense that the programs actually require it to function, which none of them do
[22:58] <raylu> !who | sim__
[22:58] <rww> Samus_Aran: then we're both correct :)
[22:58] <Samus_Aran> the dependencies created by Ubuntu are faulty
[22:58] <david_> XFce is not working, will not load, and many problems with xfcedesktop anyone care to try and solve my problem?
[22:58] <rww> Samus_Aran: then file bug reports for those packages and see what their maintainers have to say about the situation
[22:58] <sim__> @chris - read this first http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?&t=283131 it might help, if not will see whats wrong
[22:59] <Formode> outoftime :(
[22:59] <raylu> sim__: that's not his problem at all
[22:59] <Samus_Aran> they assume everyone and their dog likes logrotate.  I hate it.  I have massive storage and I hate having to rip through hundreds upon hundreds of log files trying to find things ... all out of chronological order because of the stupid way logrotate messes it up
[22:59] <raylu> _chris___: show us the error from mount
[22:59] <sim__> o ok
[22:59] <raylu> Samus_Aran: grep?
[23:00] <rww> Samus_Aran: then rip it out of cron
[23:00] <outoftime> Formode, raylu: thanks much for your help!
[23:00] <Samus_Aran> raylu: how does grep help ?  I want to look through my log files with less.  logrotate creates files that are not in chronological order, and compressed with gzip, so there's no easy way to get around it
[23:00] <raylu> Samus_Aran: zless
[23:00] <Formode> outoftime, Sorry I couldn't be of much help!
[23:01] <outoftime> Formode: it's the effort that counts - I appreciate it : )
[23:01] <lfaraone> Samus_Aran: and zgrep
[23:01] <raylu> outoftime: you could try the #x11 channel
[23:01] <Formode> outoftime ^^
[23:01] <outoftime> raylu: perhaps I shall - thank you!
[23:01] <Formode> Dear Ubuntu: I love you.
[23:01] <raylu> Formode: the feeling is mutual. sometimes.
[23:02] <rww> !love > Formode
[23:02] <Formode> raylu, I don't think Ubuntu loves me that much. I haven't given anything back. :( I would like to, but I need to learn to code first!
[23:02] <swirlboy39> Hi, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu.
[23:02] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[23:02] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[23:02] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[23:03] <fep> where do i post a message to many people in the forum?
[23:03] <fep> *looking for it*
[23:03] <Ward1983> DasEI, can you explain that a bit please? (sorry, i was on a mokebreak for a moment)
[23:03] <raylu> Formode: install a vm with proposed-updates and file lots of bug reports
[23:03] <swirlboy39> I want to have XP and Ubuntu... is that possible?
[23:03] <Formode> rww: Should I be worried about web browsers?
[23:03] <RickX> has anyone gotten a USB TV tuner to work?
[23:03] <hypnus9> Swirlboy...yes
[23:03] <Formode> swirlboy39: Yes! :)
[23:03] <swirlboy39> How :)
[23:03] <raylu> !dualboot
[23:03] <Formode> raylu: Ok. ^^
[23:03] <loca|host> when i watch a video under xine or movie player, green color is on human faces ... the video runs normal under VLC
[23:03] <Formode> !Dualboot | Swirlboy39
[23:04] <loca|host> is it a bug with nvidia ?
[23:04] <lwizardl> hi
[23:04] <Formode> Dear internet conncetion, I hate you. :( You are so slow.
[23:04] <raylu> !hate
[23:04] <raylu> :(
[23:04] <raylu> that wasn't funny
[23:04] <rww> Formode: yes. buy foxes to guard your house. by the way, feel free to join the other crazy people in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[23:05] <swirlboy39> Formode: PM?
[23:05] <fep> i cannot find where to post a question in the forun
[23:05] <deever> Formode: i'm not your internet connection...! ;)
[23:05] <fep> forum
[23:05] <lwizardl> I was wondering if anyone knew of a program that could do this? I want to take my recorded voice and have it sound like someone else.
[23:05] <Ward1983> loca|host, i had the same problem a long time ago, allthough im not sure if it was with the same program, but also an nvidia card (a 5700) never solved it i think
[23:05] <Formode> swirlboy39, PM?
[23:05] <Formode> Deever, I know! I love you still.
[23:05] <deever> lol
[23:06] <DasEI> Ward1983:I went to unebootin again, found the exec. and ran it; dvd was not accepted, nor I could size the iso on hd, but it was possible to leave the remaining space unallocated > later use.. same point as 2 1/2 ago
[23:06] <sliderz> What size should my swap file be, P4 2.4, 1/2gig ram, 40gb HD?
[23:06] <loca|host> Ward1983, yes and when removing the proprietary driver (177) videos run with no problem, but compiz is down ...
[23:06] <deever> Formode: btw, do you have Xen running?
[23:06] <rww> sliderz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:06] <Formode> deever, I'm not certain what Xen is, one moment
[23:07] <deever> Formode: so you haven't it ruuning...;)
[23:07] <Formode> formode, No. :( I use VMWARE for Virtual machines.
[23:07] <Ward1983> DasEI, but still not possible to just merge the unallocated space with the rest?
[23:07] <akorpija> Hey can anybody help me figure out why only 3.2 gigs of my 4 gigs of RAM are discovered/available in Ubuntu (it says the same thing in my BIOS) could it be because my Intel GMA gfx card is using the other 800? I'm running 64-bit Ubuntu
[23:08] <Ward1983> DasEI, btw here my 95GB partition just stayed 95GB, but it wont let me use more in the filesystem
[23:08] <Ward1983> filesystem can only use 800MB more
[23:08] <ttuttle> Ward1983: Some of it is reserved for root?
[23:08] <Ward1983> ttuttle, 800MB vs 95GB
[23:08] <ttuttle> Ward1983: Hmm...
[23:08] <Ward1983> lol
[23:08] <DasEI> Ward1983:could try reparting it, but will then use any data on it (the 95)
[23:08] <Ward1983> hefty root :p
[23:09] <sliderz> thx rww
[23:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, yes thats what i was trying to achieve
[23:09] <jojo12241> akorpija: yes your intel gma gfx card will be using some of your main ram
[23:09] <Kosova-X> hi
[23:09] <Ward1983> DasEI, well im not intirey sure if i understand you correctly, my english is far from perfect
[23:10] <Formode> akorpija, Make sure your ramsticks are all properly seated,  run a memtest86, smash head on desk. :)
[23:10] <Ward1983> DasEI, but when i rightclick "Filesystem" in nautilus it says only 800MB is free, and what i want to achieve is that it says there 95GB free
[23:10] <quiet> is there a way to view the last time a specific user logged into the system?
[23:10] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[23:10] <quiet> via cli
[23:10] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[23:10] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[23:10] <zsquareplusc> akorpija: your you sure that you rin 64 bits? what does uname -m report
[23:10] <akorpija> jojo12241, yea but 800 i guess i can figure it out thru bios and lower that
[23:10] <genii> quiet: auth.log   usually
[23:10] <Ward1983> ttuttle, also i used unetbootin btw, dunno if you read that
[23:10] <DasEI> Ward1983:same facts as before so far (and me tired of trying on)use a live or your internal sys, rezise sde2
[23:10] <akorpija> x86_64
[23:10] <akorpija> zsquareplusc, x86_64
[23:10] <Saga_> People -- Do you use LVM?
[23:11] <akorpija> Formode, yea i'll run a memtest lol
[23:11] <Saga_> If you do, please let me know.  Thanks.
[23:11] <Formode> deever, Should I be running it? :) Is it good? I dislike VMware so.
[23:11] <Ward1983> DasEI, no problem im not forcing you to try it or to keep trying so :) thanx for the help anyway
[23:11] <koshar1> would weather widget do people recommend, i want a widget on the desktop with at least 4 days of forecast ?
[23:11] <quiet> genii: that only shows today and yesterday
[23:11] <Formode> akorpija, Yay ^^ Good luck.
[23:11] <jojo12241> akorpija: on my server which has onboard video it is adjustable and ranges from 16mb - 256mb
[23:11] <Formode> koshar1, Screenlet's weather widget is great.
[23:11] <zsquareplusc> akorpija: ok :-)  but 800MB seems to be a little bit much for the graphics adapter. for on-noard gfx boards its often possible to choose the memory size in the bios.
[23:12] <zurco> thanks
[23:12] <temppy> !releases
[23:12] <genii> quiet: The backlogs are tarred up
[23:12] <deever> Formode: do you know VirtualBox?
[23:12] <earthmeLon> haha Saga_.  I'm still compiling/installing these patches.  Hope it works :D
[23:12] <zurco> i look for portuguese help
[23:12] <akorpija> zsquareplusc, jojo12241, yea i think i might have set it really high at one point come to think of it i'll check it out thanks guys
[23:12] <DasEI> Ward1983:lol, now I now the differ. from netboot, netinstall, unetbootin
[23:12] <Saga_> earthmeLon: Good luck. ;o
[23:12] <jrgp> qemu vs vmware?
[23:12] <Formode> deever *Drools* Is it a form of baked good? Otherwise no I don't.
[23:13] <raylu> jrgp: vmware isn't free
[23:13] <Formode> jrpg: qemu = free, vmware = expensive.
[23:13] <Ward1983> DasEI, its pretty conveniant only it seems retardedly hard to jsut use more space then it gives you :s
[23:13] <koshar1> Formode in the repo? any version?
[23:13] <DasEI> jrgp:virtualbox other free version
[23:13] <jojo12241> vmware server is free
[23:13] <raylu> !free | jojo12241
[23:13] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: you try to grow the existing partition to make it bigger instead of having free psace on the disk?
[23:14] <eseven73> vmware server 2 is free as in free beer
[23:14] <deever> Formode: http://www.virtualbox.org
[23:14] <Formode> koshar, look up screenlets in the repo, make sure you have multiverse and all that in. :) And the latest version works.
[23:14] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, the partition is fine, its still the same as i prepared it, 95GB
[23:14] <Formode> deever: Great! Now I just need to figure out how to uninstall VMware. :D
[23:14] <rww> eseven73: beer sucks. freedom is awesome :P
[23:14] <Saga_> jrgp: Look up VirtualBox
[23:14] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, but if i rightclick "Filesystem" in nautilus it tells me only 800MB is free
[23:14] <Formode> !Free | Deever
[23:15] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, (i used unetbootin, but you probably read that allready)
[23:15] <deever> Formode: ?
[23:15] <raylu> Ward1983: "df -hx tmpfs" may help you
[23:15] <deever> so what?
[23:15] <rww> !pt | zurco
[23:15] <DasEI> Ward1983:its bad, yeah, but maybe a few sentences describing the whole situation would have brought you further (pastebin), just a little novelle, though you mentioned it often enough
[23:15] <Formode> deever: Do you know how I could uninstall VMWARE? :(
[23:15] <eportel66071> Is there anybody that can help me with some samba issues?
[23:15] <rww> !anyone | eportel66071
[23:15] <Ward1983> raylu, let me check
[23:15] <deever> Formode: are you guests of the same arch as the host?
[23:15] <lfaraone> deever: VBox is unfree (w/ usb support)
[23:15] <raylu> Ward1983: i have no idea what you're trying to do btw. just thought i'd mention it
[23:16] <DasEI> Formode: sudo vmware --uninstall
[23:16] <Formode> deever: I don't have any. I stopped using it awhile ago. :D
[23:16] <fep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012307&highlight=Problems+detecting+WLAN+card <--- Please help me
[23:16] <Formode> dasei, Thanks! :D
[23:16] <Ward1983> raylu, i used unetbootin to make a partition on my external harddrive bootable, it worked fine, but only i have 800MB free and it should be 95GB :p
[23:16] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: so you are running the live cd on a HDD?  unetbooting might have created a separate partition. and the live cd uses the squashfs as root / anyway IIRC
[23:16] <Ward1983> little difference
[23:16] <havelot> Hey, i have used usb-creator to create a linux on a usb pen, it works great in kvm (sudo kvm /dev/sdc1) but when i boot my computer with it all i get is a syslinux error saying it cant find default kernel linux
[23:16] <havelot> what can i do?
[23:16] <deever> lfaraone: there is also an open version, and vmware is even less free
[23:16] <Formode> dasei, That does not work. :O "Invalid Option"
[23:17] <raylu> fep: again, show us lspci
[23:17] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, yes the livecd on the HD that is correct
[23:17] <fep> raylu, ok
[23:17] <raylu> fep: also, aptoncd may help you with dependencies. i don't know if it'll put stuff on a usb, though
[23:17] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: did you check with "df -h" that lists all drives currently mounted
[23:17] <eseven73> how come my irssi keeps saying "IIRC" sometimes?
[23:17] <DasEI> Formode: try man vmware or --help, for exact syntax
[23:17] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, the last part of the sentence i cannot understand though
[23:17] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, yes i allready did that
[23:17] <deever> Formode: the advantage of vmware is that you can run guests of a different arch to the host's one with it, afaik
[23:18] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, ill pastebin the output, just a sec
[23:18] <davidkap> So I just upgraded to 8.10 (from 8.04) and my integrated webcam no longer works. I have been reading alot of stuff about this issue online, but can't really translate the problem, or how to solve it for me. There was a fix that worked with the old kernel, and now that the kernal is 2.6.27-9 (this is what i have), the fix no longer works. If anyone could help me out at all that would be great. Thank you!
[23:18] <raylu> davidkap: downgrade the kernel?
[23:18] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, http://pastebin.com/f477939db
[23:18] <koshar1> Formode how do you launch it?
[23:18] <deever> Formode: if you don't need that, virtualbox is an real alternative
[23:18] <Formode> deever: I'm x86/64bit, and I find VMWARE incredibly intrusive.
[23:19] <Formode> koshar1, The Application menu?
[23:19] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, /dev/sde2              95G  898M   89G   1% /cdrom
[23:19] <davidkap> raylu: I would do this, but the issue is not that significant (only effects cheese). It seems it effects different people, webcam, and drivers differently. That is why this is so confusing to me.
[23:19] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: the live cd uses a ramdisk as root, that is the disk that is mounted as /, thats not your disk
[23:19] <dirtymerc> Any one have any idea why my 3rd party applications for Medibuntu (or any 3rd party apps at all for that matter) are not showing up in my "add remove".  I have the repositories added and the key added.  Is there some other option I need to have enabled.
[23:19] <eseven73> vmware is nice except for their horrible horrible web interface. ick.
[23:19] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, so how could i make it use all the space i intended to use?
[23:19] <koshar1> Formode cant find an entry? and #screenlets give no app?
[23:20] <Formode> dirtymerc Use Synaptic. :D
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: yes, your disk is mounted under cdrom as the live CD assumes its always a CD :-)
[23:20] <kitche> dirtymerc: because you need to use synaptic instead the Add/Remove is just a select amount of packages
[23:20] <jojo12241> eseven73, use vmware 1 not vmware 2 and it wont have the horrible web interface
[23:20] <Formode> koshar, I'm trying to remove VMware. >>
[23:20] <raylu> davidkap: er... cheese?
[23:20] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[23:20] <deever> because when i install ubundu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[23:20] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[23:20] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: why do you want to run the live system?
[23:20] <dirtymerc> Ok understood
[23:20] <eseven73> jojo12241: yeah but im sure 2, has more fixes/features than 1
[23:20] <davidkap> raylu: it is a webcam program that is similiar to photobooth on a mac
[23:20] <jojo12241> true
[23:21] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i would like to make a bootable partition that i intend to run on many systems, at friends, here in the house, etc
[23:21] <davidkap> raylu: i was basically stopping in to see if anyone was familiar enough with the problem to talk to me about it
[23:21] <Formode> !Cheese | Raylu
[23:21] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, it needs to replace my broken laptop temporarily :)
[23:21] <koshar1> Formode dont worry it was hidden in sys>preferences
[23:21] <raylu> davidkap: oh...ok. i don't really have any suggestions besides downgrading the kernel. it's a pretty painless process
[23:21] <davidkap> raylu: can I pm you?
[23:21] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i read everywhere how simple that was and how nice, only nobody can help me with it so far lol, i guess its not that popular :s
[23:21] <raylu> davidkap: sure, but i'm unlikely to be of much help
[23:22] <DasEI> Formode: /usr/bin/vmware-uninstall-server.pl         there ?
[23:22] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: ok.  the CD usually forgets everything on a reboot. if you want to have a persistent home, or even that the entire system keeps its state, you can make a separate partition (one for live cd contents and a second, big one). and call that casper-rw  or casper-cow  (e2label)
[23:23] <fep> raylu, now its posted at the same page
[23:23] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, yep the intire system should be persistent, installed software should remain installed, etc
[23:23] <Formode> Dasei: I'm getting "No such file"
[23:23] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: the other possibitly is to just use cd mounted "cdrom" as data parition, but that wont keep your settings across reboots
[23:24] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i would really need to keep settings
[23:24] <jojo12241> for the ubuntu usb drive creator thing, does it just put the kernel on the flash drive then a squashfs image for root?
[23:24] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, you know a good link about that?
[23:24] <_chris___> i read fstab, but i cant seem to mount anything except filesystem
[23:25] <IntoxicKat> Hello
[23:25] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, so its enough to just make a partition with that label???
[23:25] <ottoshmidt> how do I apply imported theme in emerald?
[23:25] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, then it will automagically find that partition and use it to store settings, installed software, etc?
[23:25] <tvaughn> how do u exit vim?
[23:25] <[T]ank> I am on Ubuntu 8.10 on a Lenovo T61. I was running previously on the earlier version of Ubuntu with no issue. Now... periodically my computer just restarts X. It locks up here and there... but not as bad the issue where it just restarts X. Any ideas on what would cause this?
[23:25] <raylu> tvaughn: shift+Z+Q
[23:26] <_chris___> control x
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: so you probably want a casper-rw partition. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[23:26] <tvaughn> ty
[23:26] <raylu> tvaughn: or esc :q!
[23:26] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: yes it's magic ;-)
[23:26] <tvaughn> its not working
[23:26] <tvaughn> im in terminal
[23:26] <tvaughn> cause i had to edit menu.lst
[23:26] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, im reading it, but in a nutshell what i said is correct?
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[23:26] <raylu> _chris___: ...? could you show us the mount error?
[23:26] <Formode> dasei Got it :D
[23:27] <Linux_One> running ubuntu hardy.  any idea why you cant access tty1 running nvidia drivers
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: yep
[23:27] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, too bad i didnt find that page before lol, i must less google and more ubuntu wiki next time
[23:27] <jojo12241> is there a way to install ubuntu server on a flash drive so then its pretty much like its installed on a hard drive but actually on a flash drive?
[23:27] <_chris___> yes, ok gimmie a sec
[23:27] <raylu> tvaughn: you should use nano instead :D. press esc before shift+zq
[23:27] <Ward1983> DasEI, did you read all that?
[23:27] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: the wiki isnt well indexed unfortnately. maybe because of the https, i dont know
[23:28] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, google + wiki :p
[23:28] <Linux_One> hi cobra
[23:28] <Linux_One> hi cobra
[23:28] <Ward1983> lol
[23:28] <DasEI> Ward1983:all what ?
[23:28] <_chris___> a security policy in place prevents the sender from sending this message to the recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected messsage had interface "org.freedesktop.hal.device.volume" member "mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.hal")
[23:28] <tyrant> is anyone using terminator , the transparency doesnt work there but gnome-terminal does
[23:28] <IntoxicKat> Anyone could send me the battery file? "/etc/acpi/battery" Because i rewrite the file.
[23:29] <tyrant> !terminator
[23:29] <Ward1983> DasEI, all what zsquareplusc said :)
[23:29] <eportel66071> is there anybody that's good with samba?
[23:29] <jepht> ??How does this work?  I'm new to Ubuntu (and chatting) and I would love some help getting my pinnacle PCTV HD usb stick to work as well as TVTime or MythTV.
[23:29] <Ward1983> DasEI, it ocmes down to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[23:29] <_chris___> error org.freedesktop.dbus.error.accessdenied
[23:29] <Linux_One> any good games for ubuntu??
[23:29] <zsquareplusc> !games > Linux_One
[23:29] <raylu> _chris___: what the? what command gave you that?
[23:29] <eseven73> Linux_One: basically just shooters
[23:29] <_chris___> it doesnt seem to read the disk size partitions right
[23:29] <_chris___> mount comand from the gui
[23:29] <raylu> _chris___: um...what?
[23:29] <kristian_> how can i uninstall irssi? sudo apt-get install irssi for install but how can i remove it? and will all the /home/username/.irssi/config files be deleted for each user? i want it too.
[23:30] <Ward1983> !games
[23:30] <raylu> !who | _chris___
[23:30] <raylu> kristian_: apt-get --help, no
[23:30] <magikid> hello all
[23:30] <_chris___> ok, anyone that help me is great ubbottu
[23:30] <Ward1983> nice a list :) i never knew that
[23:30] <EEEuser> !tab
[23:30] <DasEI> Ward1983: school's like medicine , eh ?
[23:30] <roy_hobbs> How come the NetworkManager has a BSSID and MAC address for wireless networks?  Aren't they the same thing?
[23:30] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: and its in the wiki ;-)
[23:31] <Ward1983> DasEI, i just thought you would like to hear the solution aswell :)
[23:31] <Ward1983> lol i never searched for a gamelist so :p
[23:31] <DasEI> Ward1983: O:-)
[23:31] <EEEuser> anyone know how to change desktop opacity in netbook remix?
[23:31] <Linux_One> looking for a good pinball 3d game
[23:31] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[23:31] <_chris___> is there anyone that can help me mount my cdrom and disks?
[23:31] <deever> because when i install ubuntu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[23:31] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[23:32] <santor> i recently switched window managers and was wondering what in gnome took care of automounting cdroms
[23:32] <_chris___> santor id like to know too
[23:32] <_chris___> because i cant get my other hard drive to mount either
[23:32] <eseven73> Linux_One: you might be able to get a decent 3D pinball game working on WINE
[23:32] <eseven73> !wine
[23:32] <zsquareplusc> santor: gnome-volume-manager iirc
[23:32] <kristian_> raylu : ^^
[23:33] <santor> _chris___: well, you can mount it manually with sudo mount /mount/point /dev/sda
[23:33] <raylu> kristian_: brevity is... awesome
[23:33] <EEEuser> ﻿anyone know how to change desktop opacity in netbook remix?
[23:33] <raylu> _chris___: i can help you, but i have no idea what you're doing
[23:33] <santor> replace /dev/sda with the path to your device, with a partition number, like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda5
[23:34] <staticshock> can someone tell me why sed 's/x//1' is removing ALL occurrences of x, instead of the first one?
[23:34] <kristian_> raylu : apparently! :)
[23:34] <eportel66071> any samba pros here?
[23:34] <jepht> How is it possible that 1400 people are in ONE room having a conversation?!
[23:34] <raylu> staticshock: get rid of the 1
[23:34] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:34] <raylu> eportel66071: no, just people with massive headaches
[23:34] <EEEuser> jepht: it isnt possible
[23:34] <kgonea> getting this - SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - error when i try to activate my nvidia driver
[23:34] <SlimeyPete> the wonders of idling
[23:34] <kgonea> help plz
[23:34] <santor> does anyone know the path to the block device for my cdrom, or what it is likely to be
[23:34] <eportel66071> raylu: gesss yeah..lots of traffic:)
[23:34] <magikid_> Can anyone help me with my SSH config?  I can't login now.
[23:35] <raylu> eportel66071: what i meant was samba causes massive headaches
[23:35] <_chris___> raylu, i am trying to mount my cdrom and my other fat32 hard drive
[23:35] <eportel66071> raylu: yeah..that's for sure
[23:35] <raylu> _chris___: sudo fdisk -l; find the /dev/* entries for them
[23:35] <jepht> Can anyone help me to get a digital TV tuner up and running?
[23:35] <eportel66071> raylu: that's your experiance too?
[23:35] <santor> magikid_: pastebin it and i'll take a look at it
[23:35] <IntoxicKat> ﻿ Anyone could send me the battery file? "/etc/acpi/battery" Because i rewrite the file. Please. :D
[23:35] <_chris___> raylu i did fsdisk -l and it shows up fine
[23:35] <magikid_> santor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/85832/
[23:35] <raylu> !aptlock | kgonea
[23:36] <santor> IntoxicKat: thats not exactly a file, you can't copy and paste it
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> jepht: not really, mine worked out of the box. but i can suggest an app. me-tv
[23:36] <raylu> _chris___: fsdisk?
[23:36] <magikid_> santor: I'm trying to disable the password and only allow logins with public key auth
[23:36] <santor> IntoxicKat: well its a file but not like your thinking
[23:36] <_chris___> raylu fsdisk -l
[23:36] <jepht> zsquareplusc: what kind was it?  USB?
[23:36] <kgonea> ok i will try thx
[23:36] <raylu> _chris___: what is fsdisk?
[23:36] <keram> hello
[23:36] <zsquareplusc> jepht: yes, USB
[23:36] <staticshock> raylu: it's still a silent /g without the /1
[23:36] <raylu> kgonea: alternatively, just close any other package managers you have open
[23:36] <_chris___> raylu fdisk -l
[23:36] <staticshock> raylu: it's still doing a global replace
[23:36] <keram> is there an easy way to copy my ubuntu install to a different hard drive?
[23:37] <raylu> staticshock: what are you using?
[23:37] <staticshock> what?
[23:37] <IntoxicKat> santor: I need the text of battery file.
[23:37] <EEEuser> ﻿anyone know how to change desktop opacity in netbook remix?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone > keram
[23:37] <staticshock> i did sed 's/x//'
[23:37] <jepht> zsquareplusc: Can you tell me what brand? and model?
[23:37] <raylu> _chris___: ok, so make a directory in /media for the device you wanto moun
[23:37] <staticshock> and sed 's/x//1'
[23:37] <staticshock> they both seem to tack on a silent /g
[23:37] <santor> magiKid_ did you try it with listenAddress 0.0.0.0 that should be bind to all
[23:37] <zsquareplusc> jepht: cinergy T2
[23:37] <raylu> _chris___: and then "sudo mount /dev/device /media/dir"
[23:37] <raylu> _chris___: replacing device with what fdisk told you and dir with the directory name
[23:38] <jepht> zsquareplusc: Are you using mythTV too?
[23:38] <magikid_> santor: didn't, I'll give it a shot now.
[23:38] <zsquareplusc> jepht: no i don't
[23:38] <raylu> staticshock: fiv:~$ echo "abcda" | sed s/a/b/
[23:38] <raylu> bbcda
[23:38] <AltinT> where can i edit hotkeys?
[23:38] <GodfatherofEire> Um, synaptic is only supposed to download 1 package at a time yes?
[23:38] <kmg> i just compiled empathy from source, ver 2.25.2 successfully, but when i try to run empathy from the command line I get: "empathy: error while loading shared libraries: libempathy-gtk.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"  This file exists at /usr/local/lib/libempathy-gtk.so.15 and i tried creating a symlink to it at /usr/lib/libempathy-gtk.so.15
[23:38] <raylu> AltinT: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[23:38] <_chris___> raylu the hard drive and the cdrom arent considered media are they?
[23:39] <santor> magikid_: did you have it working with passwords before you started messign with it
[23:39] <raylu> _chris___: why not?
[23:39] <jepht> zsquareplusc: Thanks a lot.  I'll check that stuff out.  One more quick q: what program did you use to check that it was working right away?
[23:39] <santor> _chris___: /media/dir is just a mount point, it could be /path/to/a/directory/that/is/empty
[23:39] <staticshock> raylu: oh, i see. it's replacing the first occurrence in every line.
[23:39] <GodfatherofEire> Also: how might I go about configuring USB mice/keyboards so as to set different actions for buttons and hotkeys?
[23:39] <keram> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[23:39] <staticshock> raylu: how can i replace the first occurrence in the whole file?
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:39] <magikid_> santor: yeah before I started messing, it would accept passwords or pub key
[23:40] <raylu> staticshock: i think you want /m
[23:40] <raylu> staticshock: i forget
[23:40] <staticshock> oh, ok
[23:40] <staticshock> so, in actuality, what i want to do is insert some text at the top of the file. how do i do that?
[23:40] <santor> magikid_: alright
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> GodfatherofEire: what do you mean? simultaneous downloads? it certainly downloads many packages, one after the other when you install a lot
[23:40] <oxiii> hi
[23:40] <staticshock> this was gonna be my approach, but maybe there's an easier way
[23:40] <kmg> neeeevermind i forgot to ldconfig
[23:40] <santor> magikid_: so we can say the key pair is fine
[23:40] <GodfatherofEire> zsquareplusc, yes, would a couple of simultaneous downloads be a problem or just a fluke?
[23:40] <zsquareplusc> jepht: dmesg should give you log messages when you plug it in
[23:41] <GodfatherofEire> well, pair of simultaneous
[23:41] <deever> anyone here using xen on a desktop machine?
[23:41] <deever> because when i install ubuntu-xen-server, i don't get any longer to the password prompt for my encrypted root and swap partitions and the box reboots
[23:41] <deever> so would have to do it some other way...
[23:41] <magikid_> santor: should be, I generated a new key pair just for this
[23:41] <raylu> staticshock: hrm. i suppose you could cp the file, echo the text, then cat the copy >> original file
[23:41] <Jack_Sparrow> staticshock In this example you can see that >> is append..  sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /boot/grub/menu.lst >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[23:41] <zsquareplusc> GodfatherofEire: that is no problem. it just downloads first and with 2 connections it can be quicker.
[23:41] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, from the link about persistant liveCD: Doesn't work with 8.04 "Hardy Heron"
[23:41] <ari_stress> morning all :)
[23:41] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, nothing about 8.10, do you know if it works?
[23:42] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: i've seen one with 8.10
[23:42] <oxiii> I'm trying to enable mesa, but i googled for hours to no avail. I can only get the nvidia proprietary drivers glx, but I want mesa in order to test something. Please help!
[23:42] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, nice so it problably works
[23:42] <santor> magikid_: did you test the keypair before you started editing teh config?
[23:42] <kitche> oxiii: just use the nv drivers and it will use mesa
[23:43] <scientes> http://pastie.org/340000 wtf
[23:43] <phix> :D
[23:43] <phix> LjL: <3
[23:43] <magikid_> santor: No.  It honestly didn't occur to me.
[23:43] <oxiii> kitche it will throw: $ glxinfo |grep -i vendor
[23:43] <oxiii> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[23:43] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: the other option would be. do a normal install. that would be for your workstation replacement. and you can still boot the live cd/usb on others PC ;-)
[23:43] <AltinT> where do I change the Shift+Alt+Upper arrow hotkey? can't find it anywhere, and it's VERY useful to me :(
[23:44] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, nah i really need a persistant liveCD
[23:44] <santor> magikid_: well, did you back up the config file, the keys may be installed incorrectly, check /var/log/auth, or /var/log/soemthing if its set up to go somewhere other htan auth
[23:44] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, but the explanation is rather long lol
[23:44] <ardchoille> AltinT: compiz?
[23:44] <AltinT> yes
[23:44] <santor> what /dev are cdroms?
[23:44] <retilgam> Can anyone help me with my ubuntu install it keeps failing @ DETECT AND MOUNT CDROM
[23:44] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i mean long for the content, i duno the right word in english
[23:44] <AltinT> but i can't find where to change the hotkey to something shorter
[23:44] <raylu> santor: "mount" will help you
[23:44] <Ward1983> like so long its a bit boring
[23:45] <ardchoille> AltinT: looking..
[23:45] <Ward1983> i can skip parts like the 2313 steps they give to create a new partition
[23:45] <Ward1983> that sortof stuff
[23:45] <phix> kidrock: glx is enabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[23:45] <AltinT> =)
[23:46] <kitche> oxiii: so you need to load the glx module then in your xorg.conf
[23:46] <IntoxicKat> hh
[23:46] <staticshock> thanks raylu
[23:46] <phix> oxiii: sorry I meant you instead of kidrock, read up
[23:47] <oxiii> yes, it is enabled
[23:47] <oxiii> thank you both, by the way
[23:47] <oxiii> i'm getting this on /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
[23:47] <oxiii> (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[23:47] <oxiii> (WW) Warning, couldn't open module glx
[23:47] <oxiii> (II) UnloadModule: "glx"
[23:47] <oxiii> (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (module does not exist, 0)
[23:47] <FloodBot2> oxiii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <oxiii> sorry
[23:47] <Tetracomm> Which KDE package should I install? It says kde-base not found.
[23:48] <EEEuser> ﻿anyone know how to change desktop opacity in netbook remix?
[23:48] <oxiii> but I have mesa libs installed
[23:48] <ikonia> Tetracomm: kubuntu-desktop
[23:48] <LjL> !kde | Tetracomm
[23:48] <ardchoille> AltinT: wow, it isn't in ccs nor keyboard shortcuts anywhere
[23:48] <phix> oxiii: what video card?
[23:48] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, im not sure how i need to do this to use it in combination with the liveCD on my harddrive
[23:48] <phix> oxiii: ATI? NVIDIA?
[23:48] <oxiii> nvidia geforce 7600gs
[23:48] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, it describes how to do it in combination with a liveCD
[23:48] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: ah damn, well thanks anyway!
[23:48] <Tetracomm> ikonia: Will that install all KDE applications? Or just what is needed?
[23:48] <Ward1983> thats kindof stupid as  CD boots so slow
[23:49] <phix> oxiii: and you have installed and enabled propertiery drivers (excuse spelling)
[23:49] <ardchoille> AltinT: hang on, checking one more thing
[23:49] <sliderz> I know you have those mp3s, Jack_Sparrow, ya pirate.
[23:49] <AltinT> :D
[23:49] <Samus_Aran> raylu, lfaraone: zgrep and zless, when they are available, do not solve the problem of chronological order and the current log files are not compressed
[23:49] <ikonia> Tetracomm: that will install the kde desktop setup from kubuntu
[23:49] <santor> does anyone know unreal tournament normally ships with linux binaries or will i need ot find a linux copy?
[23:49] <oxiii> yes, but I really want MESA instead that. Its because I want to make a test for performance
[23:49] <ikonia> santor: it's normally on the cd
[23:49] <oxiii> phix
[23:49] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: it describes it as moving the live cd to a usb stick. thats basically the same as your usb hard drive. do you have a separate 1GB partition left?
[23:49] <meoblast001> how do i figure out what package installed a file?
[23:49] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, do you happen to know anything about this: "By using reconstructor a CD can be remastered and an additional menu item (Persistent Mode) added on boot."
[23:50] <kitche> santor: depends which unreal tournament but yes there is on the cd unless you have the anthology
[23:50] <phix> oxiii: hmmmm, mesa? as in 3dfx?
[23:50] <phix> oxiii: or software opengl?
[23:50] <zsquareplusc> Ward1983: nope
[23:50] <raylu> Samus_Aran: hrm. you could try removing the cronjobs
[23:50] <santor> kitche: wtf, the athology is the only thing that is sold anywhere anymore!
[23:50] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, no but i can just make the 100GB i preserved unalliocated again, and then add one small for the CD and one large for the casper file
[23:50] <Samus_Aran> raylu, lfaraone: feel free to give me a simple command to view all my mail logs, in order, in less.  all I see is a royal PITA which only has the "benefit" of saving a few MB of space on a server with numerous GB of free space
[23:50] <oxiii> phix i dont know? I guess software ogl?
[23:50] <ikonia> santor: try to mind the language please
[23:50] <Lin_S> /whoami
[23:50] <Samus_Aran> raylu: I have done that now, but we were discussing the viewing of log files on a logrotate system
[23:50] <phix> oxiii: that is a bad idea
[23:50] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, ah damn, thats not covered allthough its possible apprantly
[23:50] <raylu> Samus_Aran: well, they should be in chronological order...
[23:50] <magikid_> santor: duh, it helps if I turn off my firewall on port 22. palm->face
[23:50] <magikid_> santor: thanks for all your help
[23:50] <raylu> Samus_Aran: but you claim they're not
[23:50] <santor> ikonia: on sorry, i forgot what irc channel i was in, cna do
[23:51] <oxiii> phix I want to try the performance of same demos over mesa
[23:51] <raylu> Samus_Aran: if they were, zless * would probably do the trick
[23:51] <santor> magikid_: i take it it all works now?
[23:51] <oxiii> some
[23:51] <ikonia> santor: appriciated
[23:51] <santor> magikid_: i should have suggested that first
[23:51] <Samus_Aran> raylu: why would they be in chronological order ?  they create files 1, 2, 3, 4, ..., 10, 11, 100, 101, etc.
[23:51] <magikid_> santor: yeah
[23:51] <jepht> Is there anyway I can send someone my dmesg so that they can decipher whether or not my Pinnacle TV Tuner is working?
[23:51] <raylu> Samus_Aran: ...in chronological order
[23:51] <oxiii> phix I need to test if the library Im testing is working with mesa
[23:51] <Lin_S> /bye
[23:51] <magikid_> santor: since UFW doesn't have a gui I always forget when I leave it running
[23:51] <ikonia> jepht: dmseg won't confirm that
[23:51] <phix> oxiii: you have a video card with 3D acceleration, using software opengl / mesa is like owning a car but pushing it around instead of driving it
[23:51] <Samus_Aran> raylu: which shows up as 1 10 100 11 12. .. etc.
[23:52] <oxiii> yes, that i do know... phix
[23:52] <ardchoille> AltinT: open gconf-editor
[23:52] <jepht> ikonia; any idea how I can?
[23:52] <raylu> jepht: but "sudo dmesg | tail" right after you plug it in may help
[23:52] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, i started out trying to use system -> administration -> create usb startup disk btw, but that didnt work, it didnt see my harddisk
[23:52] <phix> oxiii: ok, well how is this ubuntu relavent?
[23:52] <Samus_Aran> raylu: they are in unglobbable order.
[23:52] <raylu> Samus_Aran: they have timestamps...
[23:52] <ikonia> jepht: use some tv software
[23:52] <oxiii> well im on ubuntu...
[23:52] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: just write gconf-editor in alt+f2 right?
[23:53] <zsquareplusc> jepht: dmesg should write something if your card is detected. if you are interested in the tuner part only, that's a different story
[23:53] <oxiii> i might not have set up something correctly
[23:53] <Samus_Aran> raylu: so now you expect me to pick out files based on timestamps, extract the ones that need extracting, then concatenate all these hundreds of files together and pipe through less ?
[23:53] <ardchoille> AltinT: yes
[23:53] <ardchoille> AltinT: then go to  /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options
[23:53] <phix> oxiii: and you are asking a generic question, that actually relates more to another channel :)
[23:53] <Samus_Aran> raylu: this is useful how ?
[23:53] <ardchoille> AltinT: see initiate_key
[23:53] <raylu> Samus_Aran: ...what?
[23:53] <Samus_Aran> raylu: what what ?
[23:53] <raylu> Samus_Aran: first of all, we dealt with the extracting problem
[23:54] <Samus_Aran> raylu: I said logrotate breaks chronological order, which it does
[23:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: and have you tried zless * ?
[23:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: and i say it doesn't :P
[23:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: which...it doesn't. this is headed nowhere quickly
[23:54] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: yea, how do I chane it to F9? typing it won't work ...
[23:54] <Samus_Aran> raylu: you don't listen.  zless * would read individual files.  I don't want to use :n 100 times
[23:54] <Samus_Aran> raylu: and that would be OUT OF ORDER.  10 comes before 2
[23:54] <elgreco> sup my friends?
[23:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: that's why you find the relevant files first :D
[23:54] <persona_khanu> hello!
[23:54] <ardchoille> AltinT: hmm.. dunno, never done that
[23:54] <zsquareplusc> Samus_Aran: zgrep then ?
[23:54] <Samus_Aran> raylu: and that wouldn't work for the the current log that is not compressed
[23:54] <oxiii> ok, I asked the same question on #xorg and #opengl and no one replied, and im on an ubuntu box. I've googled for hours, what else can I do?
[23:54] <raylu> Samus_Aran: i was just trying to give you all the files. i would never use zless * myself
[23:55] <_chris___> raylu im really having a difficult time with this
[23:55] <ardchoille> AltinT: is that one of those things that doesn't take effect until logout/login ?
[23:55] <elgreco> i am having a problem that google isnt helping that quick... every now and again when i look up at my gnome-panel, it is displaying the wrong time
[23:55] <kitche> Samus_Aran: umm considering that it doesn't since the newest number is newer really it's a well known fact that the older the number older the log
[23:55] <Samus_Aran> you guys are all idiots.  I want to browse my log files within less.  the entire log file history.  I know how to use reg ex's in less to find my content, and I want to be able to go up or down from it in history
[23:55] <persona_khanu> i'm on a live cd so that i can access another local hard drive/partition that i didn't have permissions to access, but i still don't have permission!  i messed up the partitioner somehow so now i can't access files on the partition!
[23:55] <eseven73> hey now nobody is getting paid here Samus_Aran
[23:55] <Samus_Aran> kitche: the numbers do not sort chronologically
[23:55] <eseven73> be nice
[23:56] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: i don't know, i thought it would work imediatley
[23:56] <_chris___> raylu im getting I/o errors right and left
[23:56] <Ward1983> zsquareplusc, "Well, that's not entirely true. If one puts the live cd contents of Tribe-5 on the first partition of a USB key and the casper-rw labelled partition in the remaining space, it works fine."
[23:56] <raylu> Samus_Aran: zless works for uncompressed files too :D
[23:56] <Ward1983> nice :)
[23:56] <kitche> Samus_Aran: umm isn't that what I just said?
[23:56] <ardchoille> AltinT: not everything works immediately, some things require logout/login
[23:56] <elgreco> eseven73, i am actually getting paid as i sit here
[23:56] <elgreco> :)
[23:56] <phix> oxiii: umm why are you trying to do this in the first place? just benchmarking? or something else?
[23:56] <raylu> _chris___: i can't help you with more info than that
[23:56] <eseven73> elgreco: must be nice, hook me up :)
[23:56] <_chris___> raylu i did a mkdir /mnt/hdh1
[23:57] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: i see, well i'm having problems changing it, as it won't accept the F9 button :p
[23:57] <_chris___> and then mount /dev/hdh1 /mnt/hdh1
[23:57] <elgreco> eseven73, if you arent an idiot, and live in the denver area, we might be hiring soon
[23:57] <elgreco> using a lot of ubuntu here
[23:57] <eseven73> lol
[23:57] <eseven73> nice
[23:57] <elgreco> i am having a problem that google isnt helping that quick... every now and again when i look up at my gnome-panel, it is displaying the wrong time
[23:57] <persona_khanu> anyone able to help me with my permissions issue?
[23:57] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: if its a linux filesyetem, permissions still apply. maybe you need gksu nautlius
[23:57] <ardchoille> AltinT: ah, I see. I don't know how to specify f9 textually :(
[23:57] <Ward1983> time for a reboot :0
[23:57] <_chris___> raylu how do i go back to the previous version of ubuntu?
[23:57] <Ward1983> :) i meant
[23:57] <eseven73> elgreco: too bad im like 1500 miles from ya.
[23:57] <AltinT> how about "space +w"
[23:57] <raylu> _chris___: install it. but again, you haven't provided me with much about how you mounted and what the errors are
[23:57] <phix> persona_khanu: I know permissions
[23:57] <elgreco> eseven73, then find your own sweet ass job :-p
[23:58] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: how about "space + w" any idea? :p
[23:58] <oxiii> phix im triying to test a game engine, that I need to fix to run on 64bit. It will draw graphics the wrong way with hardware acceleration, and I want to know how it behaves using mesa
[23:58] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: they are, i can't connect to the partition with the correct ubuntu install so now i'm on a live disc trying to get at the files because i can see them but have no permissions
[23:58] <ardchoille> AltinT: I think you need some kind of ctrl or alt or super or something, but you can try it
[23:58] <elgreco> so, no one on the time issue?
[23:58] <phix> oxiii: ok, well I assume the same since mesa is doing the same thing only in software instead of hardware
[23:58] <_chris___> raylu when i try to mount it does this: Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied.
[23:58] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: did you use sudo/ gksu? to make the access as root?
[23:58] <ardchoille> AltinT: you using all of your alt+f1-12 ?
[23:59] <raylu> _chris___: show me the mount command =\
[23:59] <retilgam> mount
[23:59] <phix> man mount
[23:59] <AltinT> ﻿ardchoille: don't think so no, but i can't seem to change it to anything now :/
[23:59] <persona_khanu> zsquareplusc: i didn't, is that just the command? 'sudo gksu'?
[23:59] <oxiii> phix I'm not the author and i really haven't looked into the code yet, but I'm trying to see if it will drop to SDL or keep using ogl instead
[23:59] <raylu> ....
[23:59] <_chris___> im using the gui
[23:59] <_chris___> raylu im using the gui
[23:59] <zsquareplusc> persona_khanu: no. how do you work. console or nautlius?
[23:59] <raylu> _chris___: um, i thought we decided to not use that an hour ago
[23:59] <phix> oxiii: hmmm
[23:59] <_chris___> raylu, i dont remember
[23:59] <phix> oxiii: well I wish I could be more help to you
[23:59] <persona_khanu> phix: i have 2 hd's with 3 partitions and 3 ubuntu installs (don't ask), one of the partitions was loaded by the first install and has backup files, it doesn't load that up anymore so i don't have proper permissions when i connect from other installs/live cd
[23:59] <bjmuggs> anyone know how to get ubuntu on an old powerpc?