| rgreening | NCommander: hey | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| rgreening | so sick | 00:02 |
| NCommander | rgreening, UDS plague got you too? | 00:02 |
| rgreening | yus | 00:03 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear. | 00:03 |
| Hobbsee | there really wasn't much plague *at* UDS, apart from a bunch of miagraines and such | 00:03 |
| NCommander | Hobbsee, don't let lool hear that | 00:03 |
| NCommander | rgreening, so no chance to help improve usb-imagewriter? | 00:03 |
| rgreening | NCommander: not tonight. You got it in lp? | 00:04 |
| rgreening | upload it to somewhere so I can grab the code.. prob tomorrow | 00:04 |
| NCommander | rgreening, yeah, its in Launchpad | 00:04 |
| rgreening | URL | 00:05 |
| NCommander | rgreening, lp:~sonicmctails/usb-imagewriter/qt-port | 00:05 |
| rgreening | k | 00:05 |
| ScottK-desktop | NCommander: i Notice that Debian now has an armel buildd for Experimental so we can see how KDE4 does there too. | 00:07 |
| ScottK-desktop | http://suihkulokki.blogspot.com/2008/12/armelexperimental-buildd-running.html | 00:07 |
| NCommander | ScottK-desktop, FTBFS | 00:07 |
| ScottK-desktop | Excellent. | 00:07 |
| NCommander | I finally had a horrible idea how to fix KDE | 00:07 |
| NCommander | But its such a miserable hack that I'm really not a fan of implementing it | 00:07 |
| NCommander | It's one of those, OMG, MY EYES BURN things | 00:08 |
| ScottK-desktop | IMO working hack beats beautiful failure. | 00:08 |
| NCommander | Its so hacky upstream would never accept it | 00:08 |
| Hobbsee | NCommander: oh yeah, him and calc obviously got it | 00:09 |
| ScottK-desktop | NCommander: Sometimes such things are useful for "Well it's ugly, but if you won't accept it, do better". | 00:10 |
| NCommander | The problem is with sip, not KDE itself | 00:11 |
| NCommander | But I looked at sips code, and eyes bled | 00:11 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| ryanakca | Can kde-style-qtcurve be blacklisted / dropped for Jaunty, or does it need to be merged? | 00:56 |
| JontheEchidna | ryanakca: according to kde-look there is a kde4 version. If Debian has the kde4 version I'd merge, but if not I'd update the package | 01:11 |
| ryanakca | JontheEchidna: *nod*, ok, thanks | 01:11 |
| JontheEchidna | since I think we were wanting to get away from the kde4-style-* packages this cycle | 01:12 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe kde-style-qtcurve should be merged with kde4-style-qtcurve | 01:16 |
| rgreening | :q | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | vim irc bindings fail. | 01:41 |
| rgreening | doh.. focus | 01:41 |
| rgreening | :P | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | i hear emacs has an irc client embedded, though. | 01:41 |
| rgreening | lol | 01:41 |
| jjesse | evening | 01:42 |
| rgreening | hey | 01:42 |
| ryanakca | emacs has life embedded :P | 01:43 |
| jjesse | hello rgreening | 01:45 |
| ScottK-laptop | emacs just needs an editor to be complete. | 02:24 |
| ScottK-laptop | rgreening: You going to update your kvirc package? | 02:25 |
| rgreening | yes. but not tonight. too sick | 02:26 |
| rgreening | :( hack... cough | 02:27 |
| ScottK-laptop | Bah. OK. You're forgiven. Just this once. And only becuase jdstrand said nice things about you. | 02:27 |
| rgreening | lol | 02:27 |
| rgreening | Im glad a left a good impression on people | 02:28 |
| jjesse | rgreening you have the uds plague? | 02:28 |
| rgreening | yip | 02:28 |
| jjesse | dang i'm trying to avoid it | 02:28 |
| rgreening | its bad. I gave it to my wife and shes giving me the evil eye... double bad for me | 02:29 |
| ScottK-laptop | Just get well first and then take good care of her. You'll be forgiven. | 02:31 |
| rgreening | :) | 02:31 |
| nixternal | jeesh what a day...so much work just to get my damn car back to normal | 02:58 |
| nixternal | note to self: do not trust neighbors to do anything for you | 02:59 |
| jjesse | cars suck i hate them | 02:59 |
| nixternal | jjesse: 34 days in houston? wth is that for? | 03:15 |
| * ScottK wonders who jjesse-dell9 upset to get that? | 03:43 | |
| Riddell | doods | 03:45 |
| ScottK-laptop | Riddell must be in California. | 03:46 |
| nixternal | Riddell: where did you ride to today? | 03:46 |
| Riddell | whoa, ride? like totally old dude | 03:48 |
| nixternal | like gag me with a spoon? | 03:49 |
| Riddell | today was surfing day, it was awesome | 03:49 |
| nixternal | I know you are in the valley and all, but you don't have to talk like um :p | 03:49 |
| nixternal | really? that is cool | 03:49 |
| nixternal | I can't surf to save my life | 03:49 |
| nixternal | I can boogy board fairly well though | 03:49 |
| Riddell | if you go surfing in California, it's impossible not to spend your time speaking surfer and singing beach boys tunes, dude | 03:50 |
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 03:50 |
| nixternal | did you ride your bike to the beach? | 03:50 |
| * NCommander tries to picture Riddell surfing and singing | 03:51 | |
| * nixternal doesn't | 03:52 | |
| * ScottK-laptop tries to picture NCommander fixing KDE on armel .... | 03:52 | |
| NCommander | For some reason, I keep seeing Riddell riding a giant Kubuntu gear ... | 03:52 |
| NCommander | ScottK, I'm waiting for kde4libs 4.1.85 to compile first | 03:52 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: OK. | 03:52 |
| DaSkreech | NCommander: no picture it with a kilt :) | 03:54 |
| NCommander | ... | 03:55 |
| NCommander | MY EYES | 03:55 |
| ScottK-laptop | NCommander: Now looking at the Sip code will be a relief. | 03:55 |
| NCommander | but now I can't see to type code | 03:56 |
| ScottK-laptop | Are you a touch typist? | 03:56 |
| ScottK-laptop | And yet oddly enough, you can see to read IRC ... | 03:56 |
| nixternal | haha | 03:56 |
| NCommander | Screen reader | 03:57 |
| NCommander | and yes, I am a touch typist | 03:57 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: Yo | 03:58 |
| nixternal | yo yo homie | 03:58 |
| nixternal | trying to get my passport in order so I can come visit you during Camp KDE dude | 03:58 |
| NCommander | ScottK, do you know a good guide to yacc? | 03:59 |
| nixternal | if I can't make Camp KDE, then it is a must to get to Guademy | 03:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | I don't even know what Yacc is. | 03:59 |
| NCommander | Yet another compiler compiler :-) | 03:59 |
| nixternal | parser generator dude | 03:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | So that would be a no. | 03:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | Oh. | 03:59 |
| nixternal | like lex, bison, and such | 03:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | Nope. | 03:59 |
| NCommander | You can guess why sip's code is evil | 03:59 |
| ScottK-laptop | Sounds painful. | 03:59 |
| NCommander | yeah | 03:59 |
| NCommander | It's written mostly in a language to write compilers | 04:00 |
| NCommander | Essentially its a compiler, to a compiler, to a compiler ;.; | 04:00 |
| nixternal | attempted to use yacc with our code at work...blows booty | 04:00 |
| NCommander | I'm currently knee deep in it | 04:00 |
| nixternal | iirc, yacc == non-free | 04:00 |
| NCommander | bison -y | 04:00 |
| NCommander | :-P! | 04:00 |
| nixternal | bison is the GNU version of it, that I do know | 04:00 |
| * DaSkreech kisses and hugs nixternal | 04:01 | |
| nixternal | careful now dude | 04:01 |
| nixternal | I am a fighter, not a lover! | 04:01 |
| NCommander | nixternal, you want to take a shot at fixing this? | 04:01 |
| DaSkreech | :-) | 04:01 |
| NCommander | make love -not war | 04:01 |
| * DaSkreech knocks nixternal on his ass then | 04:01 | |
| nixternal | NCommander: that would be one huge NO! :) | 04:01 |
| * nixternal gets his posse together | 04:01 | |
| DaSkreech | It's going to be great to have you back in Jamaica | 04:01 |
| nixternal | jamaica mon | 04:01 |
| nixternal | booyakah | 04:02 |
| NCommander | Your going to be in New York nixternal? | 04:02 |
| DaSkreech | Bounty Killa and beenie!! | 04:02 |
| nixternal | jamaica mon | 04:02 |
| NCommander | Yeah | 04:03 |
| nixternal | I would like to see beenie | 04:03 |
| NCommander | Jamaica is at the N/Z subway :-) | 04:03 |
| nixternal | buju more than anyone else though | 04:03 |
| nixternal | haha, so true NCommander | 04:03 |
| * NCommander screams bloody murder | 04:03 | |
| nixternal | matrix : matrix SEMICOLON row | 04:03 |
| nixternal | there you go, my elite yacc code from a portion of our old code at work | 04:04 |
| NCommander | ewwwwwwwwwww | 04:04 |
| DaSkreech | I'll walk down by his studio it's down the road from me | 04:04 |
| * nixternal huggles django | 04:05 | |
| nixternal | JAYYYYYYYYNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO | 04:05 |
| DaSkreech | He's not likely to be all Open source OMG I gotta come. Wait nixternal is there?? I'll roll myposse and roll my .. rolling type substance and head over there now! | 04:05 |
| nixternal | joo got it mang | 04:06 |
| NCommander | rgreening, ping? | 06:06 |
| * NCommander giggles like a crazy man | 07:36 | |
| DaSkreech | ok | 07:40 |
| DaSkreech | what did you do? | 07:40 |
| NCommander | I figured out what was wrong with python-qt4 | 07:43 |
| NCommander | The freaking author blotched a configure test | 07:43 |
| DaSkreech | neat | 07:43 |
| DaSkreech | what was wrong? | 07:43 |
| NCommander | It casts qreal to float on != ARM, and to double on ARM | 07:43 |
| NCommander | It does extactly the wrong thing | 07:43 |
| NCommander | I think I want to cry :-/ | 07:43 |
| NCommander | I spent over two weeks to find out why the hell this wasn't working | 07:43 |
| Riddell | NCommander: you're my hero | 08:11 |
| Riddell | (although weren't you stuck on python-kde4?) | 08:11 |
| NCommander | sip was generating bad code because of the misset configuration option | 08:11 |
| NCommander | (that was causing the fun "lets shove doubles into float pointers issue) | 08:11 |
| Riddell | so with that change pyqt4 and pykde4 should be sorted? | 08:12 |
| NCommander | It might be necessary to transition pyqt4's rdepends | 08:12 |
| NCommander | On i386 architectures, pyqt4 had qreal set to float | 08:12 |
| NCommander | and the inverse on ARM | 08:12 |
| NCommander | For some reason, that worked -_-; | 08:13 |
| NCommander | I'm not sure yet | 08:13 |
| NCommander | (I'm not even 100% sure my fix is going to fly, but I'm optimistic) | 08:13 |
| Riddell | so on i386 is should be double and on arm it should be float? | 08:19 |
| NCommander | Bingo | 08:19 |
| NCommander | The configure test used a == where it should have been a != | 08:19 |
| NCommander | (er, the other way around) | 08:26 |
| NCommander | if (sizeof (qreal) != sizeof (double)) | 08:26 |
| NCommander | std::cout << "PyQt_qreal_double\n"; | 08:26 |
| NCommander | YOu can see the bug ... | 08:26 |
| NCommander | actually | 08:28 |
| NCommander | it seems the test properly worked on i386 ... | 08:28 |
| NCommander | hrm | 08:28 |
| * NCommander shurgs | 08:28 | |
| * NCommander hits his head on the wall harder | 08:42 | |
| NCommander | sip has no way to specify platform specific features unless you tell it on the command line to turn it off or on, or explicately kill that feature | 08:43 |
| NCommander | my brain hurts | 08:43 |
| NCommander | Riddell, or ScottK, ping? | 08:54 |
| Riddell | hi NCommander | 09:03 |
| NCommander | hey Riddell | 09:03 |
| * NCommander figured out his issue | 09:03 | |
| Riddell | NCommander: ooh? which issue? | 09:10 |
| NCommander | How to fix the configure test | 09:10 |
| Riddell | ooh ooh | 09:11 |
| NCommander | I just ripped out the ifdefs from Qt so it will always work right | 09:11 |
| Riddell | clever | 09:11 |
| NCommander | (well, there is one narrow usecase where things would explode, but it would require hacked Qt to even have it happened) | 09:11 |
| NCommander | I'll know in a few minutes if this works sanely | 09:11 |
| === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ | ||
| NCommander | Awesome | 09:28 |
| NCommander | It looks like I'm in business w.r.t. to python-qt4 | 09:28 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: hero du jour is NCommander | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs | Merges! http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | Current KDE on ARM Blocker bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176693 | ||
| NCommander | Now if my qlist code is correct | 09:32 |
| NCommander | We should be good to go | 09:32 |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: here is comment that flash 10 on 64 bit arch https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/235135/comments/49 | 09:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 235135 in flashplugin-nonfree "[MASTER] Please backport flashplugin-nonfree version 10 beta and asound-plugins from Intrepid so we can drop libflashsupport and the crashes it causes" [Undecided,Invalid] | 09:59 |
| NCommander | It was breaking on 32-bit archs | 10:01 |
| * NCommander remembers this bug | 10:01 | |
| gnomefreak | no 32 bit was fine | 10:01 |
| * gnomefreak looking for the exact comment about it | 10:03 | |
| gnomefreak | NCommander: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/235135/comments/93 | 10:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 235135 in flashplugin-nonfree "[MASTER] Please backport flashplugin-nonfree version 10 beta and asound-plugins from Intrepid so we can drop libflashsupport and the crashes it causes" [Undecided,Invalid] | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | thats odd a few comments below that said daniel had it backwards but 32 bit users with PA enabled seemed fine 64 bit users had the nviewer crashes | 10:08 |
| * NCommander shrugs | 10:09 | |
| NCommander | anyway, brb | 10:09 |
| NCommander | rgreening, you awake? | 10:45 |
| lool | NCommander: Oh cool, you found it's a sip issue after all | 11:18 |
| lool | NCommander: No news on changing to qreal in the kdelibs API though? | 11:18 |
| NCommander | lool, unnecessary | 11:18 |
| NCommander | (though probably desirable, but I'll let upstream handle it) | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 11:18 |
| Tonio_ | apachelogger: ping ? | 11:18 |
| NCommander | lool, it all boiled down to one single freaking configure bug | 11:18 |
| lool | Cool, is this pushed already? | 11:19 |
| NCommander | (well, that was the last issue, but still, I'm steaming) | 11:19 |
| NCommander | I'm doing a full rebuild | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have an issue with kpackagekit build on amd64, but that's really strange... it's a shlibsdeps issue I can't figure out.... | 11:19 |
| NCommander | I was able to build pykde4 4.1.80, but now we have 4.1.85 | 11:19 |
| NCommander | and I want to back out some of the unneccessary ARM fixes | 11:19 |
| NCommander | So probably later today/tommorow depending on how fast I can build the stack | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't that supposed to use /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib64 by default ? | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: oh, and for amarok, the amd64 build issue is a known mysql bug | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll investigate to fix that one, but it shouldn't be considered an amarok problem btw | 11:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: found the issue for libpackagekit :) still some to do for mysql btw... | 11:32 |
| kwwii | Riddell: can one upgrade from the kde3 kmail to kde4 without problems or loss of emails? | 11:34 |
| Tm_T | kwwii: should be able to | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hey ;) is there a way to access the group photo HD ? | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: didn't got any issue on my side | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: but kmail 4.1 is horribly slow, btw.... | 11:35 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: works like a charm with 4.2 | 11:35 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: I put the photo on my flickr page, the orig version is still on my other laptop if you want it | 11:36 |
| kwwii | Tonio_: on my new computer it seems to at least start faster | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: hehe, okay | 11:36 |
| kwwii | but I don't want to lose all the old mails on my system after upgrading | 11:36 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: yes you should consider a backup... in the first place | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: what's your flickr page ? | 11:38 |
| kwwii | flickr.com/people/kwwii or such, let me check | 11:38 |
| kwwii | http://flickr.com/photos/kwwii | 11:38 |
| Tonio_ | kwwii: thanks :) | 11:44 |
| \sh | kwwii: find the time to tag them properly,-) | 11:47 |
| kwwii | \sh: what? tag all of my pics? your crazy! | 11:50 |
| \sh | kwwii: na only the crazy^Wkde|cano|ubuntu ones ,-) | 11:51 |
| \sh | kwwii: but actually the most important picture was the burger ,-) | 11:51 |
| kwwii | \sh: I did tag it UDS Jaunty :-) | 11:52 |
| kwwii | hehe | 11:52 |
| \sh | kwwii: when we are back in Nuerenberg the next time (next year jan/feb) should I give you a call and you join for dinner? :) | 11:53 |
| kwwii | \sh: if you come to NBG it would be a pleasure to cook you dinner, just let me know when | 11:53 |
| \sh | kwwii: wow...that sounds nice :) I will :) | 11:54 |
| kwwii | just remebered I have to post my lasagne pics :-) | 11:54 |
| \sh | that reminds me, that I'm hungry ;) | 11:55 |
| \sh | but my cisco temperature is more important now :( | 11:55 |
| ScottK | NCommander: How goes the patching? Here now. | 11:57 |
| glade88 | was "plasmoid-quickaccess" removed upstream or only in kubuntu? | 11:57 |
| NCommander | ScottK, might have had a breakthrough | 11:57 |
| NCommander | I'm just waiting on stuff to compile | 11:57 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I read the backscroll. | 11:57 |
| NCommander | its still compiling :-) | 11:57 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Let me know when you need an upload .... | 11:57 |
| NCommander | do we have python-qt4 in bazaar? | 11:57 |
| ScottK | NCommander: I don't think so. We sync'ed it from Debian. | 11:58 |
| NCommander | fair enough | 11:58 |
| * NCommander is debating between compiling code and sleep ... | 12:00 | |
| ScottK | NCommander: Compile. Sleep is for the weak. | 12:00 |
| NCommander | yes sir | 12:00 |
| * NCommander queues up the techno in his music library | 12:00 | |
| * ScottK would have gone for more coffee, but whatever works for you. | 12:01 | |
| NCommander | I'm trying to cut back on the caffiene | 12:01 |
| ScottK | So here's a question for the quassel aficianados in the room .... Where do I find IRC logs I can grep through? | 12:11 |
| lool | ScottK: mirror irclogs.ubuntu.com! \o/ | 12:12 |
| NCommander | lool beat me to it :-/ | 12:12 |
| \sh | ScottK: when you scroll up it fetches the past entries from the core | 12:13 |
| ScottK | Interesting. | 12:14 |
| ScottK | lool: Not all the IRC channels I use are Ubuntu ones. | 12:15 |
| \sh | ScottK: and I think there is a possibility to export the messages from the core db...just ask sput@#quassel ,-) | 12:15 |
| \sh | or EgS | 12:15 |
| NCommander | ScottK, what IRC client do you use? | 12:16 |
| ScottK | I'm using quassel right now. Generally I use Konversation. | 12:16 |
| * NCommander hugs his x-chat | 12:16 | |
| NCommander | wow, its the Dawn | 12:17 |
| ScottK | Since Konvi is likely getting the boot for Jaunty, I'm looking at alternatives. | 12:17 |
| NCommander | irssi :-)? | 12:17 |
| ScottK | What tz do the quassel devs mostly live in? | 12:17 |
| * NCommander was suprised how many people used irssi | 12:18 | |
| \sh | ScottK: UTC+1 | 12:18 |
| ScottK | \sh: Thanks. | 12:18 |
| \sh | ScottK: speak: .DE ;) | 12:18 |
| \sh | ScottK: and good thing they are living all in karlsruhe ,-) | 12:19 |
| \sh | NCommander: a good thing that many peopel were switching from bitchx to irssi ,-) | 12:21 |
| NCommander | I think I was the only XChat guy there | 12:21 |
| NCommander | and the only Xubuntu user :-P (rgreening and nixternal complained when they saw my desktop :-/) | 12:22 |
| NCommander | (I was the only nano user, but persia descended from the sky, and installed vim ...) | 12:24 |
| lool | ScottK: I thought you were asking about the current chan | 12:25 |
| ScottK | lool: No, generally. I'm trying to figure out what needs to be done with quassel to make it suitable as default IRC client. | 12:25 |
| ScottK | ... for Kubuntu. | 12:25 |
| lool | a) make it run in a terminal b) make it as good as irssi hmm wait | 12:26 |
| lool | nevermind | 12:26 |
| \sh | ScottK: afaik Sput is working on KDE integration for quassel... | 12:29 |
| ScottK | Interesting. | 12:30 |
| \sh | since he learned from me, that's an easy task to add some kde magic to qt apps | 12:30 |
| ScottK | \sh: Any chance you could do some spamassassin SRU verification for me? | 12:32 |
| \sh | ScottK: I can but can't approve :) | 12:38 |
| ScottK | \sh: That's fine. I'd just like for someone other than me (who uploaded it) to test it. | 12:39 |
| ScottK | \sh: Bug #278075 | 12:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 278075 in spamassassin "DSBL is gone and needs to be removed from SpamAssassin" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278075 | 12:39 |
| ScottK | You have your pick of Ubuntu releases as they all need verification done. | 12:39 |
| NCommander | yay, dapper SRUs :-P | 12:42 |
| NCommander | hard to believe that's not dead yet | 12:42 |
| NCommander | still, dapper is special with the verison number 6.06 | 12:42 |
| ScottK | NCommander: Oddly enough one of the bugs I was fixing in that SRU set only applied to the dapper release version of spamassassin, so people are still using it. | 12:43 |
| NCommander | amazing | 12:43 |
| NCommander | You'd think people would have migrated to Hardy by now | 12:44 |
| * ScottK 's primary desktop is still Dapper. | 12:45 | |
| === glade88_ is now known as glade88 | ||
| \sh | NCommander: server people are a bit more conservative regarding dist-upgrades...it needs testing upgrade-paths, application is still working, system reboots on the same hardware...which all is very time consuming | 13:21 |
| NCommander | yeah | 13:21 |
| \sh | my first root server needs an upgrade to hardy at least..and I know when I do now a dist-upgrade at least my cyrus imapd will break | 13:22 |
| Fenario | freeflying, do you know the Intel Atom chip? | 13:32 |
| freeflying | Fenario: yes | 13:33 |
| Fenario | freeflying, http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/451/remixlauncher.png | 13:34 |
| Fenario | freeflying, dell netbook UI http://gadgets.boingboing.net/8-21-08insp9101-thumb-520x416.jpg | 13:35 |
| Fenario | freeflying, http://www.hp.com/united-states/campaigns/mini1000/hpmini1000_mie.html | 13:36 |
| Fenario | freeflying, clutter | 13:37 |
| freeflying | Fenario: thanks | 13:38 |
| Fenario | freeflying, http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/9029-display.jpg | 13:39 |
| rgreening | Riddell: ping | 13:55 |
| Fenario | freeflying, my pleasure thank you for your time | 13:56 |
| freeflying | Fenario: me too, thanks, have a good day :) | 13:57 |
| cbr | damn u buildd's.. plz compile the new xserver for i386 :p | 14:03 |
| rgreening | ping Tonio_ | 14:11 |
| ScottK | It'd be nice if someone running Jaunty could see if we have the same problem as in Debian Bug 505821 since there's a patch there. | 15:09 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 505821 in kipi-plugins "kipi-plugins: edit coordinates not working" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/505821 | 15:09 |
| JontheEchidna | On the subject of kipi-plugins, are we going to update them to the KDE4 version for jaunty since we are updating digikam to its kde4 version? | 15:20 |
| ScottK | I thought we had both. | 15:20 |
| JontheEchidna | we have both for libkipin | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | n = 0 || 5 | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | but not for kipi-plugins | 15:21 |
| JontheEchidna | (the kde4 version is still in beta and wasn't ever in Intrepid) | 15:22 |
| JontheEchidna | The binaries of the dikikam source package and the kphotoalbum package are the only things that depend on the kde3 kipi-plugins | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | we're gonna update digikam to it's kde4 version, and kphotoalbum has a kde4 port (don't know how far along it is though) | 15:24 |
| JontheEchidna | it would be nice if we could drop the kde3 kipi-plugins for jaunty | 15:25 |
| * ScottK suggests a conflicting kipi-plugins-kde4 for in the mean time. | 16:11 | |
| directhex | perhaps this is more of a hive of activity. can someone provide a copy of the build log from the failed csharp plasma examples build? | 16:12 |
| ScottK | NCommander: How's your armel fix coming? We FTBFS kde4bindings again. | 16:18 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Was it you that did the kde4bindings upload that failed due to the mono examples? | 16:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think I've touched kde4bindings in a while | 16:20 |
| rgreening | directhex: I may have... 1 sec | 16:20 |
| JontheEchidna | I investigated how to turn mono completely off for the ppa | 16:21 |
| cbr | does anyone have the latest xserver 1.5.99....-ubuntu2 package for i386? | 16:21 |
| rgreening | directhex: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/84617/ | 16:22 |
| directhex | rgreening, do you have the line above it, with the compiler call in it? | 16:23 |
| rgreening | unfortunately, no. | 16:24 |
| directhex | rgreening, because I just compiled that | 16:24 |
| directhex | root@osc-franzibald:/tmp/kde4bindings-4.1.85/csharp/plasma/examples/applets/tiger/contents/code# gmcs -target:library -r:/usr/lib/cli/kdebindings-4.4/qt-dotnet.dll -r:/usr/lib/cli/kdebindings-2.0/plasma-dll.dll tiger.cs | 16:25 |
| directhex | root@osc-franzibald:/tmp/kde4bindings-4.1.85/csharp/plasma/examples/applets/tiger/contents/code# | 16:25 |
| directhex | AHA | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: batbuild keeps backups of all builds | 16:38 |
| directhex | it's a bug in 4.1.85 | 16:38 |
| directhex | was fine with 4.1.80 | 16:38 |
| directhex | silly kde | 16:38 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: only if you do not remove the dir (which I did) | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | silly rgreening as well | 16:39 |
| rgreening | silly putty | 16:41 |
| directhex | hm, if this fixes it i'll be vexed | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | rgreening: putty? | 16:42 |
| directhex | tiger.dll | 16:42 |
| * apachelogger likes his new dependency graph :D | 16:42 | |
| directhex | okay, is there somewhere i can swear loudly without offending anyone? | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: did you review the pim? | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | directhex: #swear I guess | 16:42 |
| directhex | i feel better now | 16:43 |
| rgreening | apachelogger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silly_putty | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | ~np | 16:43 |
| kubotu | apachelogger is listening to "santa bring my baby back to me" by paniq | 16:43 |
| directhex | - svg.Resize(Size); | 16:44 |
| directhex | + svg.Resize(Size()); | 16:44 |
| directhex | fixed. | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | directhex: wait with committing though | 16:44 |
| * apachelogger needs to do some fiddling with the kdebindings branch | 16:44 | |
| directhex | http://paste.debian.net/23811/ | 16:44 |
| directhex | cba messing about with branches again. above is the fix | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 16:45 |
| directhex | plasma made in c#: neato. changing properties into methods in an effort to make me gnaw off my own arm: not neato | 16:45 |
| jjesse | rgreening: https://code.launchpad.net/~jjesse/ufw-kde/documentation for ufw-kde will start working on this as well | 16:46 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: nope on the pim review...last night was wasted getting my car usable again after being frozen in | 16:47 |
| === fregl__ is now known as fregl | ||
| nixternal | today I am at work and preparing for a 5 hour business meeting which doesn't sound fun | 16:48 |
| nixternal | and to top it off, we are having a blizzard right now | 16:48 |
| rgreening | brr | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | that siad, tomorrow is wed, wed is meeting day... all day long that is... | 16:48 |
| jjesse | nixternal: in houston today and its only 40 degrees :( | 16:48 |
| nixternal | did we have any KDE updates last week at all? | 16:48 |
| jjesse | my mtg day is monday which is why i like to travel so they can't track me down at all :) | 16:49 |
| nixternal | prior to UDS, my dual screens worked perfectly, now they don't, but they work | 16:49 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: jaunty? | 16:50 |
| nixternal | intrepid | 16:50 |
| nixternal | using experimental | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | maybe JontheEchidna broke something in experimental | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | I didn't see any KDE related SRUs though | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | any changes I did to the ppa packages were strictly adding conflicts/replaces against older versions | 16:51 |
| nixternal | it wouldn't have been in a stable release as I am using the 4.2 beta packages | 16:51 |
| nixternal | ya, that wouldn't have caused it | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | anyway, what I am trying to say: blame X :P | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | let us make another abstraction layer that we can blame! | 16:52 |
| * nixternal thinks if there was an x update this week | 16:52 | |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | we can call it... CXorg | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | since KDE isn't using K anymore | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | crossover? | 16:54 |
| directhex | apachelogger, is the above patch enough to be getting on with? | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | directhex: get on with? | 16:56 |
| directhex | http://paste.debian.net/23811/ fixes the bug which debian/patches/kubuntu_04_disable_csharp_plasma_examples.patch works around | 16:57 |
| directhex | it's an error in the example code, due to an apparent change in the API | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | directhex: yeah, I got that, but what does your question mean? | 16:59 |
| * directhex suspects a language barrier caused confusion | 16:59 | |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 17:00 |
| directhex | as long as the Right People(tm) have that patch, then i shall disappear | 17:01 |
| rgreening | directhex: that wasn't the only broken example | 17:02 |
| rgreening | directhex: I tried commenting them out individually, and several broke. | 17:02 |
| apachelogger | funnies | 17:07 |
| === dfiloni is now known as devfil | ||
| devfil | ScottK, ScottK-desktop: can you take a new look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=digikam-kde4 ? | 17:12 |
| ScottK | devfil: Looking | 17:22 |
| directhex | rgreening, same bug in analog-clock, FYI. in 2 places. patch later, gotta pick wife up | 17:22 |
| rgreening | kk | 17:24 |
| vicentek | hey | 17:30 |
| vicentek | are we going to get kde 4.2 beta2 packages today? | 17:30 |
| ScottK | devfil: Commented. | 17:39 |
| ScottK | vicentek: Jaunty or Intrepid? | 17:39 |
| vicentek | ScottK: intrepid | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Not sure exactly. Uploads for Jaunty have started. Intrepid PPA is usually shortly behind. | 17:42 |
| JontheEchidna | Probably would be tomorrow at the latest. In any case it won't be nearly as late as last time | 17:43 |
| ScottK | So the kde4bindings on armel problem this time was just depends problem becuase kde4libs had finished just about when it started. | 17:43 |
| * ScottK requed it. | 17:43 | |
| devfil | ScottK: what "Looks like some missing ’i’s in Conflicts: digikam, digkam-doc, digkam-dbg in debian/control " means? | 17:45 |
| ScottK | digkam/digikam | 17:45 |
| ScottK | Two of those. | 17:46 |
| devfil | ah ok, I see | 17:46 |
| devfil | really strange, this is the old package upgraded | 17:46 |
| ScottK | May have been a long standing mistake. | 17:47 |
| ScottK | BTW, test build is at 50% .... | 17:47 |
| cbr | are the i386 buildd's busy or smth? | 17:57 |
| cbr | it's built for all kind of strange architectures.. armel, powerpc, ia64, but no i386 | 17:58 |
| * ScottK hands cbr https://launchpad.net/+builds/ | 18:01 | |
| cbr | it's building a lot of kde4 stuff | 18:05 |
| Riddell | rgreening: pong | 18:06 |
| rgreening | Riddell: hey | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | cbr: today is KDay, that is the day I am consuming all buildds with KDE packages | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | muhahahahaha | 18:07 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I found the konqueror flash patch.. it was in kdelibs not base. | 18:07 |
| * JontheEchidna is doing his part to bog down the ppa buildds | 18:07 | |
| cbr | bummer :( | 18:07 |
| cbr | i want my functioning xorg :p | 18:07 |
| rgreening | Riddell: I have rewritten it. Test building now | 18:07 |
| Riddell | rgreening: top stuff, sorry for sending you in the wrong direction | 18:09 |
| rgreening | Riddell: np.. I needed the excercise :) | 18:09 |
| rgreening | hopefully it works | 18:09 |
| apachelogger | cbr: while broken; wait; end; while unbroken; wait; end; | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | eventually the latter is preferrable | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | as a matter of fact one ought not have to wait in an active manner in the latter case, could be threaded I guess | 18:10 |
| ScottK | devfil: More comments for you. | 18:19 |
| rgreening | hey Tonio_, where art thou? | 18:20 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: hey ;) | 18:24 |
| Tonio_ | I'm at work | 18:24 |
| Tonio_ | newest kipi-plugins uploaded to kubuntu-experimental, btw | 18:24 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Did you see the patch from Debian I mentioned earlier today? | 18:25 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: sorry I had a meeting.... I I'm just going for another one | 18:25 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK nope, lemme look | 18:25 |
| ScottK | Tonio_: Debian Bug 505821 | 18:25 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 505821 in kipi-plugins "kipi-plugins: edit coordinates not working" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/505821 | 18:25 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK ok | 18:26 |
| Tonio_ | ScottKis that commited upstream ? | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | cd .. | 18:26 |
| JontheEchidna | oops | 18:26 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK looks like this patch is for the 1.6 series -> kde3 | 18:26 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK I was talking about packaging the beta kde4 version | 18:26 |
| ScottK | Ah. OK. They mentioned Debian Experimental, so I figured it was KDE4 too. | 18:27 |
| rgreening | Tonio_: how are things? recovered from UDS? | 18:27 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK which is already on the kubuntu-exp ppa | 18:27 |
| ScottK | Great | 18:27 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: yeah, I had real hard time comming back, it took me 26 hours.... | 18:27 |
| rgreening | ouch | 18:27 |
| Tonio_ | problem with connection in philadelphia :) | 18:27 |
| JontheEchidna | did philadelphia get hit by the big ice storm too? | 18:27 |
| Tonio_ | ScottK they still have the kde3 version right now.... | 18:27 |
| Tonio_ | rgreening: we'll talk later, I really have to go, sorry :) | 18:28 |
| rgreening | kk Tonio_ | 18:28 |
| devfil | ScottK: how can I fix "package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libdigikamcore1 libdigikamdatabase1 should almost certainly be fixed (I’ll take an argument about why not if you have one)." ? | 18:29 |
| ScottK | devfil: Look in the packaging guide about library packaging and how binaries should be named. | 18:29 |
| devfil | ScottK: yes, I've read that part but in this case the binary is not called with -0, or -1 etc... | 18:31 |
| devfil | this should be a program and not a library, also the library is built inside the package | 18:31 |
| ScottK | If you run lintian with the -i flag it will tell you exactly what to do about it (on the binaries). | 18:33 |
| devfil | ScottK: yes, I see but i'm tryin' to explain you that this is a software and not a library and that change to the package name is useless | 18:34 |
| ScottK | devfil: OK, then why is it called lib.... | 18:34 |
| devfil | ScottK: where? | 18:35 |
| ScottK | I was thinking of usr/lib/libdigikamcore.so.1.0.0, but since it's not a separate binary for the lib, these tags should probably just be over-ridden. | 18:38 |
| devfil | ScottK: I'm also overriding non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink | 18:39 |
| ScottK | Good | 18:39 |
| devfil | and no-symbols-control-file | 18:40 |
| devfil | (info) | 18:40 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:43 |
| Tm_T | tomorrow new beta, iu! | 18:44 |
| devfil | ScottK: uploaded a new package? | 18:51 |
| devfil | s/?/!/ | 18:51 |
| ScottK | devfil: I'm blocked up with $WORK, so you should get someone else to review it next. | 18:52 |
| devfil | ok, I'm the second sponsor, I need the first | 18:53 |
| blizzz | the kde 4.2 beta 2 packeges in intrepid will replace the stable kde 4.1.3, right? | 18:53 |
| JontheEchidna | blizzz: yes | 18:54 |
| blizzz | JontheEchidna: ty | 18:54 |
| JontheEchidna | Is it customary for the MIR bug reporter to subscribe ubuntu-mir, or does an motu have to do it? | 19:09 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 308060 | 19:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308060 in libmsn "Include libmsn in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308060 | 19:10 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: you should do it | 19:20 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 19:40 |
| _Groo_ | join #kubuntu | 19:40 |
| === dfiloni is now known as devfil | ||
| directhex | rgreening, apachelogger, bug fix for the other broken plasma c# example: http://paste.debian.net/23827/ | 20:18 |
| DaSkreech | Just to let you know that the Beta 2 announcement popped up in my RSS reader :) | 20:31 |
| DaSkreech | the site isn't showing it so I guess it's under wraps | 20:31 |
| Riddell | I published it for a bit, then hid it again | 20:32 |
| DaSkreech | Ah that explains that | 20:32 |
| JontheEchidna | KDE delayed the release until tomorrow | 20:32 |
| seele | argh.. my camera isn't mounting in intrepid | 20:33 |
| rgreening | hmm.. | 20:35 |
| rgreening | weird | 20:35 |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/8/128732255836249218.png | 20:35 |
| NCommander | hey rgreening | 20:36 |
| rgreening | hey NCommander | 20:36 |
| NCommander | how goes things? | 20:36 |
| rgreening | ok. I need a serious power nap though. | 20:37 |
| * NCommander just got up from one :-P | 20:37 | |
| rgreening | never slept last night. I coughed so much I though the ceiling would collapse | 20:37 |
| DaSkreech | Anyone looked at the Wine for Main in Jaunty Spec? | 20:38 |
| * rgreening is going to go home and nap for a bit | 20:39 | |
| seele | hmm.. we didn't get a kubuntu group photo at uds, did we | 20:41 |
| DaSkreech | Nope at least none was posted | 20:43 |
| DaSkreech | Was there an Ubuntu group photo? | 20:43 |
| NCommander | At UDS? | 20:44 |
| NCommander | yeah | 20:44 |
| DaSkreech | Did see that either :( | 20:45 |
| DaSkreech | didn't | 20:46 |
| DaSkreech | I probably need a nap as well :( | 20:46 |
| Nightrose | seele: same here as i found out a few hours ago :( | 20:48 |
| seele | Nightrose: about the camera? | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | jep | 20:52 |
| seele | booo | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | :/ jep | 20:52 |
| Nightrose | i ended up using my eeepc which is still on hardy | 20:53 |
| Nightrose | do you have 4.1 or 4.2 btw? | 20:53 |
| seele | 4.1.3 | 20:53 |
| Nightrose | 4.2 here | 20:53 |
| Nightrose | ok | 20:53 |
| seele | i had to use justin's hardy box to get my picture | 20:53 |
| directhex | rgreening, did you catch my second patch above? | 20:54 |
| jjesse | i can't belive we forgot to do a kubuntu uds picture | 20:55 |
| DaSkreech | Nightrose, seele: This is your unable to mount problem ? | 20:57 |
| Nightrose | ? | 20:57 |
| seele | DaSkreech: mount the camera problem? | 20:59 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah | 21:00 |
| R_Rios | Amarok 2 is not working here | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | I get this message when I try to run it from the terminal: | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs): | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | Application requests for isSet("multipleinstances") but the "multipleinstances"option | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | has never been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... ) | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | ASSERT: "0" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.3/kdecore/kernel/kcmdlineargs.cpp, line 1499 | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | Cancelado | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | I'm using Kubuntu Intrepid | 21:06 |
| R_Rios | What's going on? | 21:07 |
| smarter | apachelogger: ^ has amarok2 been tested on kde 4.1.3? | 21:08 |
| Nightrose | yes | 21:13 |
| Nightrose | some of our devs are still on 4.1.3 | 21:13 |
| Nightrose | and i am pretty sure the package was tested on 4.1.3 by quite a few of our users | 21:14 |
| DaSkreech | Why does that look like it's trying to open a second process of Amarok ? | 21:19 |
| cbr | the launchpad/+builds thingy shows that there are "x builds in queue" but doesnt show the stuff in the queue? | 21:47 |
| cbr | oh, it does | 21:50 |
| cbr | and the xserver build failed to build :( | 21:50 |
| cbr | that's why it isn't in jaunty yet | 21:50 |
| cbr | some error with installing libdrm-dev in the buildd log | 21:53 |
| cbr | it tries to overwrite a file already existant in some other package | 21:53 |
| cbr | the install fails, the build fails | 21:53 |
| cbr | it tries to overwrite /usr/include/drm/drm.h which is also in package linux-libc-dev | 22:01 |
| cbr | and fails | 22:01 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: Absolutely. | 22:12 |
| ScottK | Nightrose: I certainly tested 4.1.3. | 22:13 |
| ScottK | cbr: Missing conflicts/replaces. | 22:13 |
| cbr | well, possibly, all i care for is that i'm stuck in a VT until someone discovers it :p | 22:15 |
| === mbiebl_ is now known as mbiebl | ||
| ScottK | [17:33:15] <pusling> ohh.. ubuntu is already shipping libplasma3. good luck ubuntu. | 22:37 |
| ScottK | [17:35:50] <pusling> ScottK: you know it is very abi flaky ? | 22:37 |
| ScottK | So message passed ... | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | not as of kde 4.2 | 22:37 |
| ScottK | OK. | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it's binary compatible as of 4.2 | 22:37 |
| JontheEchidna | until KDE5 | 22:37 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can you add a build of rsibreak to Neon. That's the solution to Bug #305886. | 22:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 305886 in rsibreak "Package RSIBreak won't install, dependancy issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305886 | 22:39 |
| ScottK | wtf. How can libplasma2 be a depends of libplasma3 | 23:29 |
| ScottK | Dear apt-cache: replaces/conflicts is not the same thing as depends. | 23:31 |
| NCommander | o_o; | 23:36 |
| JontheEchidna | lol? | 23:41 |
| JontheEchidna | do sarcastic bug reports work on the apt-cache people? :P | 23:42 |
| ScottK | Dunno. Never filed one. | 23:42 |
| ScottK | Who did kdeedu? | 23:59 |
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