[00:00] <jennifer> I'm looking at something on The Linux foundataion. It mentions something about Lenmark 9500 drivers
[00:01] <genii> jennifer: Yes, thats what I just stated.
[00:02] <jennifer> oh lol sorry. So if i just install that driver, my printer will work
[00:03] <genii> jennifer: Hopefully. But Lexmark printers generally are not linux-friendly, so your mileage may vary
[00:03] <alexei> why vim does not save/restore the cursosr position in a file on subsequent edits in Intrepid? I used to like it so much ...
[00:03] <jennifer> how would i go about doing that
[00:04] <jennifer> just go to the website and download it then hoop my printer up
[00:04] <genii> jennifer: First try under System Settings...Printers         to add it
[00:05] <jennifer> i already did; it said it was added but when I went to print something out; it gave me an error saying it couldnt print the file
[00:07] <genii> jennifer: Did you have it plugged in/powered on when you did that?
[00:07] <jennifer> yeah
[00:10] <genii> jennifer: So you set it up as: local printer  with driver: Lexmark 9500     and are using CUPS as the printing system?
[00:10] <jennifer> i dont think so; i mean i am very new to Linux
[00:11] <jennifer> i'm trying to figure out how to add a printer; its a USB hook up
[00:11] <jennifer> the drivers that came with it is only for Windows OS's
[00:12] <genii> jennifer: Yes, you will not have any use for the driver cd, since it is only Windows drivers on that.
[00:12] <uber_noober> have u checked to see if linux supports it?
[00:12] <jennifer> ive heard a few things; someone said it doesnt then i hear once i get a driver for it
[00:13] <genii> jennifer: I suggest to return to System Settings...Printers. And to remove or delete the printer entry which exists now for it. Then "Add a Printer/Class"  tell it Local Printer. When asked for driver Go to Lexmark and chose if there 9500 series
[00:14] <genii> uber_noober: It uses the Lexmark 9500 which should be a driver for it in the printing subsystem without installing anything
[00:15] <ImLiz> hey all, anyone know if I download gparted iso if it will work with kubuntu 6.06?  Or can I download it in the live cd of 8.04?
[00:15] <genii> ImLiz: The gparted cd is independent of any operating system
[00:15] <uber_noober> genii: sweet, so all u do is add it in http://localhost:631
[00:16] <genii> uber_noober: Hopefully.
[00:17] <ImLiz> genii: oh cool, so once copied to a cd, all I have to do is put it in the cd-rom right?
[00:17] <jennifer> how do i remove a printer
[00:17] <genii> ImLiz: Yes, and boot to it
[00:18] <genii> jennifer: PRinter.. Remove
[00:18] <ImLiz> genii: ok, thanks :)
[00:18] <uber_noober> that's how i added my Brother printer, although kubuntu recognized it when i plugged it in as hl-1440
[00:18] <genii> jennifer: (when you have the one to remove selected)
[00:20] <jennifer> A print error occurred. Error message received from system:
[00:20] <jennifer> cupsdoprint -P '_968_AIO_Printer' -J '' -H '/var/run/cups/cups.sock:631' -U 'jennifer' -o ' multiple-document-handling=separate-documents-uncollated-copies orientation-requested=3' '/usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps' : execution failed with message:
[00:20] <jennifer> client-error-document-format-not-supported
[00:20] <jennifer> thats the code i get when i try to print
[00:22] <uber_noober> genii: do u know if the installation cd lets u select to install grub on root partition?
[00:22] <ImLiz> Also, anyone familiar with virtualbox???
[00:23] <genii> uber_noober: I'm not sure if the gparted cd had grub on it. If so, then yes
[00:24] <uber_noober> no i mean i want to install ubuntu on my laptop but i don't want it to install grub on the mbr. i want it to isntall grub on its own root partition, but it doesn' give me an option
[00:25] <genii> uber_noober: If you install grub to a subpartition instead of master boot record of a drive, it overwrites partitioning info and the partition becoes unbootable
[00:26] <uber_noober> i already have grub installed on its own partition and mbr, i'm trying to chainload ubuntu so i need to install grub for ubuntu during installation not on the mbr but on the root partition of sda3 where ubuntu is to be isntalled
[00:28] <genii> uber_noober: If you have some bootloader on the master boot record of the first drive which boots, you can install grub for instance to mbr of drive2 then chainload it. But if you install grub for nstance to sdb1 or sdb2 or such instead of sdb then it corrupts the partition header info and the system can't figure out what type of filesystem is on the partition
[00:29] <genii> uber_noober: You can test this easily enough by making a swap partition, install grub to it, then do after an  fdisk -l    for that partition. It won't show as swap anymore, the grub install messes it up
[00:30] <uber_noober> genii: linux allows u to install it's own bootloader either in mbr or its root partition
[00:30] <uber_noober> so there is no conflict there
[00:31] <uber_noober> that's because the boot loader can be installed first then the linux system
[00:32] <brenno> hey
[00:32] <uber_noober> in short yes you can place a bootloader on individual root partitions - i am running slack 12.2 and debian etch
[00:32] <brenno> how do i install the libc library, most preferably version 6
[00:32] <uber_noober> they both allow me to install a bootloader, but ubuntu doesn't, hence my problem
[00:33] <genii> uber_noober: You can have whatever bootloader you like on the main mbr of first booting drive and whatever other bootloaders you like on the beginning of any other drive you like and chainload them this way. But as I said, easy to test how it corrupts an individual subpartition info.
[00:34] <genii> uber_noober: You can shift to cli on install cd and do manual grub-install if you like to whatever drive you like
[00:34] <uber_noober> brenno: glibc
[00:34] <brenno> uber_noober: from adept?
[00:35] <uber_noober> genii: or sudo apt-get install glibc-2.6-1
[00:35] <uber_noober> i'm assuming u only need the GNU C lib right?
[00:35] <brenno> ya
[00:35] <genii> brenno: See above message to me by uber_noober for the cli to install your libc
[00:36] <brenno> got it
[00:36] <brenno> thanks
[00:36] <uber_noober> np
[00:36] <brenno> cant find package
[00:36] <brenno> =/
[00:36] <uber_noober> genii: thanks man, i think i'll check out the alternate install cd
[00:37] <genii> !info libc6
[00:37] <genii> brenno: sudo apt-get install libc6
[00:37] <uber_noober> sorry, genii is right
[00:38] <uber_noober> it's called libc6
[00:38] <genii> brenno: Although since is in class of "required" should already have it
[00:38] <brenno> i already had it
[00:38] <brenno> :(
[00:38] <uber_noober> to see if a package is installed use: sudo aptitude show <package>
[00:39] <genii> brenno: If you are compiling stuff which needs it, use the -dev package. So libc6-dev
[00:40] <uber_noober> guys, been fun! thanks again genii. later
[00:40] <genii> uber_noober: Nite
[00:41]  * genii hands BluesKaj a large coffee
[00:42] <BluesKaj> thx genii :)
[00:42] <genii> Anytime :)
[00:43] <BluesKaj> still trying to find the settings in kde4.2 to share folders with the LAN but all the windows pcs see is the linux connected printer
[00:44] <BluesKaj> konqueror keeps crashing when i try to use advanced sharing options
[00:54] <orzel> hello. i just installed kubuntu 8.10 to a friend. Which is great, beautiful (kde4.1!) and all. I'm just surprised that the version of openoffice shipped is that old (2.x).. Is that normal ?  is there a list of packages/version on the net ? i can't seem to be able to find it.
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> orzel: That is normal. OpenOffice 3.0 was released only a week or so before Either Kubuntu or Ubuntu were released
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> so there was not enough time to incorporate it into Kubuntu or Ubuntu 8.10
[01:15] <ImLiz> hi room, was wondering if anyone's familiar with virtualbox???
[01:22] <mkpaa> I have problem with intrepid sound after upgrade from hardy, there are no errors or anything from sound device (hda acl888), but there is no sound. both mixer and amarok show sound working fine, but I can't hear anything.
[01:22] <crimsun> mkpaa: download and run http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
[01:22] <crimsun> mkpaa: it's a sound troubleshooting script that we use
[01:25] <mkpaa> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6a27f1303d7dbe6d5d67982ca688823aa72a4923 done
[01:26] <mkpaa> (and it is not problem with the speakers either, btw.) :)
[01:27] <darkangel> bonjour
[01:30] <tkstka> I cant seem to get my g15 lcd screen to work
[01:30] <orzel> JontheEchidna:  oh, ok i see. Do you know if this is available in 'backports' ...?
[01:30] <tkstka> need help
[01:31] <uni4dfx> tkstka: install g15daemon
[01:31] <JontheEchidna> orzel: nope, but it's available in a ppa
[01:32] <JontheEchidna> http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2008/10/ppa-for-openofficeorg-30.html
[01:32] <mkpaa> crimsun, I can't find anything wrong in there
[01:33] <tkstka> uni4dfx: thx
[01:33] <orzel> JontheEchidna: great,thx!
[01:33] <tkstka> now there is a clock
[01:33] <tkstka> :)
[01:33] <crimsun> mkpaa: wait a tic, i haven't even gotten a chance to look at it
[01:35] <crimsun> mkpaa: 'Front' is muted and zeroed, and 'PCM' is set extremely low
[01:35] <tkstka> now that I have installed g15deamon and I've installed Amarok plugin v 1.1 I cant seem to get it work
[01:35] <tkstka> it gives a code error 1
[01:36] <mkpaa> mmkay...
[01:37] <mkpaa> I have spent 2 hours doing something more useful, actually I saw the problem while reading the forum, but never had them both set at the same time :P
[01:38] <mkpaa> neither can I figure any proper reason why would software update a) set something to mute and b) mess with volume at all?
[01:39] <uni4dfx> tkstka: don't  use that amarok plugin... it uses like 50% of the CPU just to display some useless crap
[01:39] <crimsun> mkpaa: no idea; software seems to modify mixer levels fairly randomly (and annoyingly)
[01:40] <uni4dfx> tkstka: install audacious and g15daemon-audacious ... it's an excellent plugin
[01:41] <tkstka> audicious crashed
[01:41] <yosep> deci
[01:41] <tkstka> when I tried to open my mp3 harddrive
[01:42] <tkstka> but many programs do
[01:44] <brenno> ey
[01:44] <brenno> how do i install x-window system
[01:46] <tkstka> uni4dfx: audicious doesnt even play any songs I try to select
[01:46] <tkstka> is there something I need to do before it works?
[01:48] <genii> brenno: You installed server version or so?
[01:48] <brenno> i need to install
[01:49] <brenno> havent installed yet
[01:49] <genii> brenno: The livecd for Kubuntu will just install all your desktop stuff, you don't have to do anything unusual
[01:50] <brenno> im trying run this game
[01:50] <brenno> tibia
[01:50] <brenno> requires libc6 and x-window system
[01:51] <brenno> got both then
[01:51] <brenno> and still not running
[01:51] <brenno> opens up
[01:51] <brenno> and closes
[01:51] <brenno> immediatelly
[01:51] <brenno> www.tibia.com if u dont mind checking
[01:54] <genii> brenno: How was it that you "installed" it?
[01:56] <brenno> actually havent
[01:57] <brenno> i donwloaded the file mfrom the website
[01:57] <brenno> and extracted it
[01:57] <brenno> and ran the game
[01:57] <nate_> Hello, I am trying to do an upgrade for a few days but it keeps coming up us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/feisty/main 404 not found. Any ideas?
[01:58] <genii> brenno: The ubuntu forums indicate that the Tibia linux client needs hardware acceleration on your video card
[01:59] <brenno> i got nvidia working
[01:59] <brenno> should be enough
[01:59] <brenno> geforce go 7400
[02:04] <genii> nate_: Feisty Fawn's End Of Lif as a distribution was October 2008
[02:04] <brenno> anyone got a good mmorpg for linux
[02:04] <brenno> ?
[02:06] <werdnum> brenno: yeah, Wikipedia
[02:06]  * werdnum ducks
[02:06] <eppan> eve, wow and anarchy can be played with wine
[02:07] <brenno> does it actually run as good?
[02:07] <brenno> tell me as personal experience
[02:07] <brenno> hows wine for that
[02:07] <eppan> grate
[02:08] <brenno> really?
[02:08] <eppan> but it depends in your hardware i guess
[02:08] <brenno> hmm
[02:08] <eppan> i have nv8400m card
[02:09] <nate_> genii: is there an easy way to upgrade?
[02:10] <eppan> the bigest problem i have had with wine is the patchers....need an old patcher for AO
[02:11] <genii> nate_: For intermediate releases like 6.10  you have to upgrade through all the other intermediate releases until you get to a long-term-support release. So... no
[02:12] <genii> nate_: You should just download an 8.04 CD and install from there, will be less bandwidth in the end
[02:13] <nate_> genii: Can i reuse my home and swap?
[02:13] <nate_> and such:
[02:13] <nate_> ?
[02:13] <genii> nate_: Yes
[02:13] <genii> nate_: (if they are on separate partitions)
[02:17] <nate_> genii: will i have to manually get all new programs and codecs?
[02:18] <genii> nate_: You can get a list of all your currently installed things, and then later apply them to a new blank install
[02:18] <genii> !clone
[02:19] <genii> Hmm. There is also : sudo dpkg --get-selections >> mylist             then later on the new box: sudo dpkg --set-selections < mylist
[02:20] <eppan> keep in mind that some packages migt not be awail in new install
[02:21] <genii> Yes, you need to have same sort of repositories as before like medibuntu or wine repos, etc etc
[02:23] <nate_> so.... mylist is stored somewhere and on the new machine i would enable all repositories and run ........mylist and bada-bing!?
[02:24] <genii> nate_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-169062.html        shows how to use the --get-selections and --set-selections way (which is usually how I do this)
[02:26] <genii> nate_: The "mylist" is just a list of your installed packages, not an executable file. You insertt it to dpkg with the --set-selections  in order to tell it to use these things as an install list. then to do the dselect as shown in the thread to make it install the list
[02:26] <radlipat> hi genii nice to see you again
[02:26] <Daviey> genii: you know --disable-columns only works in >Jaunty?
[02:27] <genii> Daviey: No, but it looked weird, that is why I recommend the previous --get-selections/--set-selections
[02:27]  * genii hands radlipat a coffee
[02:27]  * radlipat takes coffee
[02:27] <nate_> thanks again,  ill check it out
[02:27] <Daviey> genii: apparently --get-selections/--set-selections misses some stuff, but then it's always seemed to !wfm
[02:28] <genii> nate_: np. Otherwise you're stuck with 6.10->7.04->7.10->8.04 route :/
[02:29] <genii> Daviey: I imagine it might miss some stuff if it was installed by way of tasksel or so
[02:29] <eppan> 6.10>7.04>7.10....troute might be the safer option....
[02:31] <Daviey> genii: pass
[02:31] <Daviey> genii: I would imagine, if it missed anything it would be because of meta packages.. but:
[02:31] <Daviey> dave@sabre:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep ubuntu-desktop
[02:31] <Daviey> kubuntu-desktop					install
[02:31] <Daviey> so.. i guess it's not that.
[02:32] <nate_> how do i check the version?
[02:33] <Daviey> $ lsb_release -r
[02:33] <Daviey> nate_: or --all for the full info
[02:33] <nate_> im on 7.04
[02:34] <Daviey> nate_: 7.04 has reached it's end of life, so you won't get any more updates
[02:37] <radlipat> why is off topic down?
[02:37] <Daviey> nate_: Therefore, you should really upgrade - the upgrade path isn't tested for jumping from 7.04 to either the latest long term support, or the latest release.  Therefore you either need to upgrade to 7.10->8.04 and stop to stick to the long term version, or jump to 8.10 for the latest release
[02:40] <nate_> i tried to use adept_updater should i use something else
[02:43] <nate_> this will be my first....
[02:43] <tuxwulf> Installing Kub 8.10 gives me a heap of problems....
[02:43] <Ashex> Currently I have to enter my password whenever I mount a volume, whether it be an external device, or a partition on a hard drive
[02:43] <Ashex> how do I change it so it doesn't prompt me?
[02:43] <tuxwulf> I thought that I'd try to actually use it, despit my initial disappointment... Perhaps it will grow on me...
[02:44] <dr_willis> Ashex,  make a proper entry for the drive in the /etc/fstab file and it wont do that.. Its because the system is asking for the admin type sudo password to do a system type task
[02:44] <dr_willis> !fstab
[02:44] <Ashex> dr_willis, it asks me for pluggable devices, like flash drives and what not
[02:44] <radlipat> what was ubuntu website for shockwave again?
[02:45] <dr_willis> Ashex,   you may alwo want to isntall/run the ntfs-config tool and eable the options it has.
[02:45] <Colonel_Panic> Upgrading to Intrepid
[02:46] <brenno> 1tibia
[02:46] <brenno> !tibia
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> tibia is that bone in your lower leg
[02:46] <dr_willis> It hurts when you break your Tibia
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> your shin
[02:46] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:46] <Colonel_Panic> I broke mine when I was like 2
[02:46] <dr_willis> Shin bone connected to the knee bone...
[02:47] <Colonel_Panic> all healed up by now
[02:47] <dr_willis> Id hope so. :)
[02:47] <Ashex> dr_willis, that's for present partitions, is there no way to just have it not ask for hot-plug devices??/
[02:47] <dr_willis> 2 yr olds heal fast.
[02:47] <Colonel_Panic> hehe yeah, considering I'm 40
[02:47] <Ashex> I know the gnome hal config editor gives me that functionality
[02:47] <dr_willis> Ashex,  try the ntfs-config tool. Ive never seen it ask here for my fat32 usb thumb drives..   Then again. I dont use KDE4 much other then occasionally
[02:47] <|DS|> could someone help me with getting my internet card to be recognized?
[02:48] <|DS|> :)
[02:48] <Colonel_Panic> you mean a network adapter?
[02:48] <|DS|> I guess
[02:48] <Colonel_Panic> what kind of adapter is it?
[02:48] <|DS|> It's a dell card that is USB
[02:49] <|DS|> It's recognized by the machine but it doesn't show up in the knetwork I think
[02:49] <|DS|> knetworkmanager
[02:49] <Colonel_Panic> do you have a product number or anythinglike that?
[02:49] <mister-tea> lsusb
[02:49] <genii> prob 8185/8187
[02:49] <|DS|> I could get it I think
[02:50] <Ashex> dr_willis, my mistake, it doesn't prompt for fat32, but it does for ntfs. I have an external I use to move between windows and linux and I want it to just automount without prompting me
[02:50] <Ashex> ntfs-config doesn't have this option
[02:50] <dr_willis> Ashex,  what release of kubuntu you using? the 8.10 release did have it in that tool.. but not earlier i belive...
[02:50] <|DS|> Ugh
[02:50] <|DS|> It's not recognizing it anymore :/
[02:51] <|DS|> only has a "mass storage device" but when I disconnect it it doesn't go away so it;s not that I don't think
[02:51] <Ashex> dr_willis, I'm using 8.10. It just has an option to enable write support
[02:52] <dr_willis> Ashex,  no idea then.. it had 2 check box's here. one for  internal, one for external, and write supports...  I would say check the forums. they may clarify the fix
[02:52] <dr_willis> well  the wizard had 2 tabs/places and like 4 check box's i recall.. Not on ubuntu right now
[02:52] <Ashex> ok, I'll take a look around
[02:54] <DretchSwatter> back
[02:55] <mister-tea> everytime I boot I need to use recovery mode and fix broken packages but it says none are broken none fixed but then it will boot any ideas?
[03:10] <patrick_farrelly> help please, i am having a massive problem with X
[03:11] <patrick_farrelly> X was working fine, but i saved the system to ram, and now X does not function
[03:15] <eppan> restart dont work?
[03:16] <eppan> or ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:18] <DaSkreech> mister-tea: What packages?
[03:18] <genii> patrick_farrelly: Please don't post in both here and in #ubuntu at same time about the same problem
[03:19] <mister-tea> idk
[03:19] <patrick_farrelly> nothing doing
[03:19] <patrick_farrelly> i ran fsck, disc is all clear
[03:19] <patrick_farrelly> ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work because X can not start
[03:20] <eppan> what runlevel is your systen trying to start in?
[03:20] <patrick_farrelly> init5
[03:20] <tuxwulf> In 8.04, how do I connect my BT mouse?
[03:20] <mister-tea> I just buikt this box and installed kubuntu but during package fix it says 0 broken 0 fixed
[03:20] <genii> patrick_farrelly: According to the info you also gave in #ubuntu it is saying cannot start X because readonly filesystem. At prompt what does: df -h   say is filesystem % full?
[03:21] <patrick_farrelly> my / is 35%
[03:21] <patrick_farrelly> all other drives are less than that
[03:21] <patrick_farrelly> *dev/sda1 = 35%
[03:21] <genii> patrick_farrelly: OK. Have you done a boot to recovery and fsck the drives?
[03:21] <patrick_farrelly> fsck shows all clear
[03:22] <patrick_farrelly> journal entries are fine
[03:22] <patrick_farrelly> i am not sure what i did
[03:22] <patrick_farrelly> i only shut down picking "save the system in ram"
[03:22] <genii> Probably were using swap space when you did that
[03:22] <patrick_farrelly> then x went nuts, but i kinda expected it, it happened all the time in debian
[03:22] <mister-tea> i'm wondering if I have something wrong in grub/ the menu.lst is very short ...one page
[03:23] <patrick_farrelly> hmm... let me try remounting the / drive
[03:23] <patrick_farrelly> that should fix read-only, right?
[03:23] <genii> patrick_farrelly: Can you manually:  sudo mount -a -o remount,rw
[03:24] <patrick_farrelly> ok... fixed... i did something similar
[03:24] <patrick_farrelly> i did sudo mount -n -o remount /
[03:24] <patrick_farrelly> thanks
[03:24] <mister-tea> shold my bios be set to  large dick acces mode other or dos. also should plug and play os be enabled?
[03:25] <genii> mister-tea: pnp on, and "other"
[03:25] <mister-tea> k thanks
[03:26] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: What errors?
[03:26] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: Installation or BT mouse?
[03:27] <mister-tea> when I shut down I get a red warning message that flashes too fast to read can I slow it down or is it in a log somewhere?
[03:27] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: In Kub 8.04 I am not clear on the procedure how to connect my BT mouse....
[03:27] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: On another computer, I am having trouble installing Kub 8.10
[03:28] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: Or rather, it installes fine, but starting up in it is a problem
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Installation
[03:29] <dustin> I feel like an idiot I cant figure out how to run a .run file on kubuntu 8.10
[03:29] <DaSkreech> dustin: ./file.run
[03:30] <genii> dustin: If in same dir:  ./file.run
[03:30] <dustin> ok I will try that in terminal
[03:30]  * genii hands DaSkreech a cookie
[03:30] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: I am not sure yet but it says I have sda, sdb, sdc and sdd. It seems only sdc and sdd have harddisks physically attached. I set grub to install on sdc, since I think sda and sdb are raid drives which I do not have.
[03:30] <mister-tea> anything on my shutdown question?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Umm ok lets take from the top :)
[03:31] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: Not on the SATA bus anyway. I do have a separate pci card which does have a PATA raid.
[03:31] <DaSkreech> How many drives are in the computer ?
[03:31] <tuxwulf> 4
[03:31] <genii> mister-tea: Depends what is causing the red screen, ubuntu generally doesn't have any of those (that I've seen)
[03:31] <mister-tea> red letters
[03:32] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: 4
[03:32] <mister-tea> is there a shutdown log?
[03:32] <genii> mister-tea: Try to hit Pause key when it happens
[03:32] <mister-tea> k thanks again gotta go fix my bios
[03:33] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: how many are in raid ?
[03:34] <dustin> new question how do I set my root password so that I can run root terminal :S
[03:34] <genii> mister-tea: Perhaps /var/log/faillog
[03:34] <dustin> using kubuntu 8.10
[03:34] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: BIOS says SATA1 and SATA2 have HDs attached. Not in raid. SATA3 and SATA4 do not have drives attached. I set SATA1 as the boot drive. I disabled the on-board raid controller.
[03:35] <genii> dustin: Ubuntu is designed to use sudo and never have an enabled root account. So we will likely not help you with that
[03:35] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: There is a separate pci raid controller with a 2 -disk stripe raid attached.
[03:35] <dustin> so anything I need to run in root can be run in sudo?
[03:35] <genii> dustin: Yes
[03:35] <dustin> ty
[03:36] <genii> dustin: np
[03:36] <DaSkreech> oh
[03:36] <DaSkreech> ok fine
[03:36] <DaSkreech> so what happens on boot up?
[03:36] <genii> tuxwulf: Did you use a Wubi install onto the raid?
[03:37] <dustin> genii: it returned "command not found"
[03:38] <dustin> genii: so what command do I need to run a .run?
[03:38] <genii> dustin: You don't put just "sudo"  by itself. You put: sudo name-of-a-command-line-command
[03:38] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: The Kub installer lists sda ~ sdd, but SATA1 = sdc and SATA2 = sdd; sda  and sdb show empty, no disks attached. I manually partition sdc/SATA1 for kub 8.10. I install grub on sdc (which seems to be hd(2), not hd(0)).
[03:38] <dustin> ustin@dustin-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run[sudo] password for dustin:
[03:38] <dustin> sudo: ./ati-driver-installer-8-12-x86.x86_64.run: command not found
[03:38] <dustin> dustin@dustin-desktop:~/Desktop$
[03:38] <dustin> dustin@dustin-desktop:~/Desktop$
[03:38] <downhillgames> dustin: chmod +x ./atiblajhblahblah
[03:38] <downhillgames> then try it
[03:39] <tuxwulf> genii > No, I don't even know what that is. It only serves as a data drive (ntfs).
[03:39] <genii> dustin: So the file you are trying to run is not located in the directory which you are trying to execute it in
[03:39] <pirky> is it easy to remove kde from a kubuntu installation and run gnome instead?
[03:39] <dustin> file is there
[03:39] <genii> dustin: Also that file needs to be run with specific other arguments in it (the ati installer)
[03:39] <downhillgames> yeah, gotta chmod +x it
[03:39] <downhillgames> +x means "set the executable flag to yes"
[03:40] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: After kub install and reboot, it mentions 'invalid device /dev/UUID= blahbahblah', and falls to an initrams shell.
[03:40] <downhillgames> you can do the same by right clicking the file, clicking Properties and checking the box or whatever in the Permissions tab
[03:40] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: I startup a live CD and confirm the dev UUID is correct.
[03:40] <dustin> genii: what other arguments should I look for to install this package?
[03:40] <genii> dustin: See http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Manual_Install_Method
[03:40] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Oh I know that :)
[03:40] <downhillgames> lol nevermind.
[03:41] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Count to 5 and type exit
[03:41] <genii> dustin: If you have Intrepid and not Hardy, substitute the names accordingly
[03:41] <DaSkreech> The controller is initiallizing the device slower than the kernel and grub are moving
[03:41] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: ... eh ...? That sounds interesting....
[03:41] <DaSkreech> It had me wonky for a day or two as well
[03:41] <tuxwulf> ....aaaah....
[03:41] <tuxwulf> I see!
[03:41] <aanderse> how do i install plasma theme i got from inet?
[03:42] <tuxwulf> Is there a way to do that automatically...?
[03:42] <DaSkreech> tuxwulf: Tell grub to take longer to boot up I guess
[03:42] <DaSkreech> Idid some stuff in my bios after a while that fixed it
[03:43] <tuxwulf> DaSkreech: goood tips! Thanks, I will try that when I get back to that pc...
[03:44] <DaSkreech> sure
[03:45] <dustin> genii: perfect info thank you so much
[03:45] <genii> dustin: You're welcome
[03:46] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a reason Dolphin would crash frequently?
[03:47] <pirky> http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1eb2.jpg
[03:47] <pirky> could someone look at the box i got in the upper right
[03:47] <pirky> can't get rid of him, kids got alagator blood,
[03:48] <parthbakshi>  i had ubuntu 8.04 and had amarok 1.4 installed on it ...then i upgrded my machine to 8.10
[03:48] <parthbakshi>  in synaptic it says amarok version 2.x.x is installed however i still get the old version when i start amarok
[03:48] <parthbakshi>  any idea whats going on?
[03:48] <radlipat> help plz
[03:49] <radlipat> no ones on xubuntu
[03:49] <pirky> can you just remove kde and install gnome from a kubuntu installation
[03:49] <radlipat> my taskbar disapeared can someone help?
[03:50] <genii> !puregnome | pirky
[03:50] <CoJaBo-Eee> radlipat: You can add it back in widgets
[03:50] <radlipat> how?
[03:50] <genii> pirky: If you mean that lighter-coloured blue area, thats not some separate box but a part of the background pic
[03:51] <pirky> genii: yes
[03:51] <pirky> its the lighter area
[03:51] <genii> pirky: It's part of the backgound picture which just looks somewhat like it is part of another area or so
[03:52] <genii> pirky: It's not
[03:52] <radlipat> CoJaBo-Eee: how i do that?
[03:52] <pirky> no its a part of the background pic
[03:53] <genii> pirky: Yes, it is just part of the entire picture they are using as the default background.
[03:54] <pirky> ubottu: is this a more complete removal http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome.php
[03:54] <pirky> genii: i should be able to change it then
[03:54] <genii> pirky: Choose a different background picture you like better and will disappear
[03:55] <radlipat> hello CoJaBo-Eee???????????????/
[03:56] <pirky> thanks for help here is the next pic....
[03:56] <aanderse> so does anyone know how i can install a new plasma theme i got from kde-look.org?
[03:56] <radlipat> how i open widgets?????????anyone??????????/
[03:56] <DaSkreech> parthbakshi: It says Amarok2:1.4.1
[03:56] <DaSkreech> radlipat: Your taskbar disappaears often :)
[03:57] <pirky> genii: http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1jv3.jpg
[03:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> radlipat: Icon is on top right on mine.
[03:57] <tuxwulf> Perhaps it crawled to the ceiling...?
[03:57] <tuxwulf> I mean there is abutton to make it roll up to the top of the screen, I saw...
[03:57] <pirky> changed background to blank color
[03:57] <radlipat> i dont see it
[03:58] <pirky> still got damn blue box
[03:58] <radlipat> when i right click i get the list that should be in my kmenu
[03:59] <genii> pirky: Hm. If you move the mouse up to top of screen or to the far right, does it move the entire screen ?
[03:59] <pirky> This new KDE seems to difficult to learn, the installing plasmoids is confusing with the yellow stars and minus signs confusing me
[03:59] <genii> pirky: (and expose more of that)
[03:59] <radlipat> any ideas??????
[03:59] <pirky> genii: no
[04:00] <parthbakshi> ok got it
[04:01] <genii> pirky: It looks like your video card is leaving what is called "relics" or "artifacts" on your screen.
[04:01] <pirky> genii: that makes sense, got a pretty good lapy though
[04:01] <pirky> genii you think i am a good candidate to remove kde and try gnome
[04:01] <pirky> ?
[04:02] <genii> pirky: I'm not sure it will help if the problem is the video card, since they both use the same drivers underneath
[04:02] <pirky> you gonna be on here for a while?
[04:02] <pirky> i might try it am jump back in here later
[04:03] <genii> pirky: You could put in Gnome alongside of your current kubuntu by installing  ubuntu-desktop and choosing Gnome at login
[04:03] <pirky> genii: i will do that
[04:03] <pirky> brb
[04:03] <genii> pirky: I'll be active another hour or so, but after that I'm /away
[04:04] <pirky> genii: installing.....thanks for the help...i love the ubuntu community
[04:05] <genii> pirky: Video card issues are not my particular strong point in debugging, but there may be someone else who around who can assist if that is what the issue turns out to be
[04:06] <pirky> genii: you think that since i am running 4.2 beta that it might be the cause of the video card issue
[04:07] <genii> pirky: Possibly. But more likely the underlying driver which it is using
[04:07] <tkstka> hmm can someone here help me because compiz-fusion people are very quiet :D
[04:07] <DaSkreech> nVidia?
[04:12] <pirky> DaSkreech: yes i have nvidia
[04:12] <NoNick34234> hi all
[04:12] <DaSkreech> Yeah that would cause some issues
[04:13] <radlipat> they should be able to help you nonick
[04:13] <NoNick34234> my monitor goes to sleep after 10 minutes, and i can't seem to stop it. i tried any settings i saw in control panel, and even killed the power management processes
[04:13] <pirky> is ati support better for ubuntu
[04:14] <DaSkreech> pirky: no clue but nVidia actually mentioned KDE in the last driver beta release because of how wonky the drivers acted in KDE4
[04:14] <tanner_> does anyone know if kde 4.2 will have a universal menubar like the 3.5 had
[04:14] <tanner_> or will i have to wait some more
[04:14] <pirky> as if i didn't have enough problems having Broadcom grrrr
[04:15] <Eyestaples> 10 years later and im back to irc chat.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> pirky: This is a much easier fix
[04:16] <Cainus> hey all... I recently rebooted my kubuntu box and now it won't let me log in through the graphical interface... I can only get in through "console login" ... can anyone tell me what I need to look at first to fix this?
[04:18] <CoJaBo-Eee> I think my Kubuntu install is messed up bad :/
[04:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> Nothing seems to be updating anymore, Dolphin crashes on every file operation, and now wine is broken.
[04:19] <DaSkreech> tanner_: I don't know of a plan for that
[04:19] <sorset1> hi, can i mount ntfs with konqueror in 8.10 ?
[04:19] <MrInternet> awww, kate freezes when the terminal beeps
[04:20] <DaSkreech> tanner_: was that a Kwin implementation ?
[04:20] <radlipat> u sill here
[04:20] <CoJaBo-Eee> ?
[04:20] <DaSkreech> CoJaBo-Eee: mv ~/.kde ~/kde_bkup
[04:21] <tanner_> i believe so
[04:21] <radlipat> who was helping me with my taskbar?
[04:22] <radlipat> i opened run program and comp crashed
[04:22] <CoJaBo-Eee> radlipat: Did you try restarting?
[04:23] <radlipat> just did
[04:23] <radlipat> he told me to type something into alt f2
[04:23] <radlipat> like behavior or something
[04:23] <CoJaBo-Eee> Is there a widgets icon in the top right corner?
[04:24] <radlipat> nope
[04:25] <radlipat> oh his name was nonick
[04:25] <radlipat> something
[04:25] <NoNick34234> hi
[04:25] <radlipat> hi
[04:25] <radlipat> srry comp crashed man
[04:26] <radlipat> ok what was i supposed to run?
[04:26] <radlipat> in alt f2?
[04:26] <DaSkreech> tanner_: ask in #kwin
[04:28] <tanner_> DaSkreech thank you
[04:30] <Eyestaples> anyone know why can render a jpg for the topface of my cube but not the bottom?
[04:30] <Eyestaples> I*
[04:31] <CoJaBo-Eee> Compiz?
[04:31] <Eyestaples> yes
[04:32] <CoJaBo-Eee> The setting is in several different places, you have to find the one that allows top and bottom.
[04:32] <Eyestaples> on the other hand. this has been my first issue and i think it's a wonderfull OS i cant belive i've ran winblows for so long
[04:32] <Eyestaples> exelent tyvm.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> #compiz
[04:33] <CoJaBo-Eee> Eyestaples: On my version, it is under Cube reflection and deformation
[04:36] <Colonel_Panic> hehe
[04:36] <Colonel_Panic> Have you guys seen that HeliOS blog entry about the school teacher?
[04:37] <DaSkreech> That's pretty damn funny
[04:37] <genii> Colonel_Panic: -offtopic :)
[04:37] <Colonel_Panic> he's backpedaling as fast as his little legs will carry him
[04:38] <Colonel_Panic> is offtopic discussion not allowed here?
[04:38] <genii> Colonel_Panic: Well, we have #kubuntu-offtopic  channel for that
[04:39] <Colonel_Panic> aaah I see
[04:39] <Colonel_Panic> ok my apologies
[04:40] <Colonel_Panic> is there any activity in there now?
[04:40] <DaSkreech> There will be if you join :)
[04:41] <Colonel_Panic> you think so?
[04:48] <compilerwriter> Anybody successfully get a magicjack to work with kubuntu?
[04:53] <cze> hi all, in 8.10 I switched kwin's rendering mode for 3D effects and now I cannot login. How can I reset the setting?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> cze: ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[04:55] <cze> i think this is the change i did: GLMode=Fallback
[04:56] <cze> would you know what is the default value?
[04:57] <cze> daskreech
[05:00] <DaSkreech> cze: Hmm? You changed that to make it start failing?
[05:02] <cze> daskreech, did I? I switched it in UI to that. I just wanted to try all I think three values to try performance
[05:08] <leigh> i just installed kubuntu and when trying to run terminal commands nothing happens
[05:08] <leigh> i try sudo apt-get install and it asks for the password, but than nothing happens
[05:08] <DaSkreech> cze: What did you turn off in the UI ?
[05:09] <leigh> i didn't turn anything off
[05:09] <leigh> nm
[05:09] <DaSkreech> leigh: what are you installing?
[05:09] <leigh> im trying to update xorg.conf...so im trying to install gksu
[05:10] <cze> daskreech, I changed render mode to fallback, since then x server only restarts after i login
[05:10] <leigh> i also tried to open dolphin as root from terminal and again it asks for password, but than opens nothing
[05:11] <DaSkreech> leigh: you have Kdesudo
[05:11] <cze> daskreech, dont you know what is the default value for GLMode in kwinrc?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> leigh: You don't need gksu
[05:12] <DaSkreech> cze: Ha ha ok quick fix mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc to somewhere else then login
[05:12] <DaSkreech> !kdesudo | leigh
[05:12] <cze> daskreech, ok thank you
[05:13] <leigh> yea that makes sense...I'm use to ubuntu...but now i tried that and same thing...it asks for password than goes right back to a prompt
[05:13] <leigh> i've tried a couple other random commands and i get no errors it just goes right back to a prompt
[05:13] <DaSkreech> leigh: what did you type in ?
[05:13] <leigh> like it opens and than closes immediately
[05:13] <leigh> kdesudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:15] <compilerwriter> has anyone managed to get a magicjack to work with kubuntu?
[05:15] <DaSkreech> leigh: you probably don't have gedit installed try kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:15] <DaSkreech> What's a magicjack
[05:15] <radlipat> whats magicjack?????????
[05:16] <leigh> DaSkreech: same thing happens, asks for password than just goes back to prompt
[05:16] <leigh> i just installed, so my password is still nothing...could that be the problem?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> leigh: Mebbe
[05:17] <DaSkreech> leigh: set a password with passwd at the prompt
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Stepping outside to the dogs let me know what the result is when you get one
[05:20] <radlipat> kewl i got shockwave working now clubpenguin here i come
[05:20] <leigh> wow I feel really stupid...there was a password set...figured it out and now it works
[05:20] <leigh> thanks for your help!
[05:21] <radlipat> idk how i got it to work and i dont care~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:22] <DaSkreech> leigh: Wonderful :)
[05:23] <leigh> kubuntu is just confusing me over ubuntu </lame excuse>
[05:23] <radlipat> lol yeah it is lol
[05:23] <radlipat> jk
[05:23] <radlipat> its confusing me over windows
[05:23] <radlipat> lol
[05:24] <compilerwriter> leigh you will like kde better than gnome once you get accustomed to it though.
[05:24] <DaSkreech> leigh: :-) Well We should be here to help iron that out
[05:24] <leigh> i updated xorg.conf...can i get it to update without restarting?
[05:24] <leigh> i think you guys are right...i'm gettin use to it fast...
[05:25] <leigh> im still a linux beginner...just got kubuntu running tonight after using ubuntu for the past couple of months
[05:25] <lespea> anybody here using 4.2 beta?
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Me
[05:27] <lespea> do you know if you can bind the super button and the mouse to do things, like in compiz you can hold super and scroll to adjust the transparency of the window
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nope never tried
[05:39] <qcjn> hi. I've seen that i can use, or install kde desktop easyly, in ubuntu, while i'm using gnome now. And i like to see how i like it. But would it affect compiz-fusion if i change to kde desktop ?
 I acidently deleted the networkmanager Icon from the panel how do I get it back or change which access point to connect to?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Hmm ?
[05:44] <radlipat> from channel xubuntu i dont know do any of you?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> what do you mean?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> radlipat: Right click the panel and add it back
[05:45] <radlipat> he said its not there when i suggestd that
[05:47] <qcjn> DaSkreech: i'm on Ubuntu, using gnome..i got compiz.. secondly, i've seen that i can easily from ubuntu switch to gnome. But will it "damage" compiz-fusion, will i have problem coming back to gnome..I just want to see for now ?
[05:48] <qcjn> switch to kde desktop i mean
[05:48] <qcjn> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/config-desktop/C/other-desktops.html
[05:48] <eppan> qcjn: try a live cd then maybe?
[05:49] <qcjn> would be less risky !
[05:50] <qcjn> it's just live cd are fun, sometime so much slower, so you don't really get the feel of it
[05:50] <eppan> i used to run ubuntu with compiz for a long time, but i liked kubuntu to much to go back to that
[05:51] <eppan> true, the cd is very slow
[05:51] <DaSkreech> qcjn: no
[05:51] <DaSkreech> Nothing will harm anything
[05:52] <qcjn> ok,  thanks, so i can try it...yes sir ! :)
[05:52] <qcjn> eppan: waht particularity do you like about using kubuntu ?
[05:53] <eppan> it kinda just have what i want in the right places :)
[05:54] <radlipat> night all im hitting the hey
[05:54]  * radlipat drinks last bit of coffee
[05:54] <qcjn> if i install kde desktop, will it give,s me the feeling of kubuntu, or only of kde desktop
[05:56] <DaSkreech> It will be more vanilla type KDE
[05:56] <DaSkreech> But with the code changes that Kubuntu has made
[05:57] <qcjn> excuse me but i don't understand, so it doesn't really tell me anything !
[05:58] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Ubuntu is a customized version of Gnome
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu is a customized version of KDE
[05:58] <qcjn> ah yes ! if i change to kde desktop, will compiz-fusion still be working ?
[05:58] <qcjn> ok
[05:58] <DaSkreech> For the most part that means things like the wallpapers and what applications are installed etc
[05:59] <DaSkreech> But some of it is changes in the actual code like Kubuntu takes out the Go! menu in Konqueror
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Even if you install he KDE package the code changes remain
[05:59] <DaSkreech> but all the other changes will be more KDE default than Kubuntu choices
[06:00] <DaSkreech> qcjn: If you want but it would be off by default
[06:00] <qcjn> ok
[06:00] <DaSkreech>  You would have kwin which provides a lot of what Compiz does
[06:00] <qcjn> i'm trying it right now
[06:00] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:00] <DaSkreech> !hi
[06:01] <silv3r_m00n> can i make the filename appear to the right of the file icon in konqueror ?
[06:01] <Psi-Jack> When I installed the arts package, it didn't include the arts binary. Why is that?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> silv3r_m00n: not that I know of
[06:03] <silv3r_m00n> DaSkreech: what does that mean ?
[06:03] <Psi-Jack> Anyone?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> silv3r_m00n: You want the name of the file to the right of the icon without it being in column view ?
[06:04] <silv3r_m00n> DaSkreech: now it is below the file icon
[06:04] <macjason0607> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/86005/
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Arts is dead?
[06:04] <silv3r_m00n> i want it to the right
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> I just installed Ubuntu a couple days ago, and did an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE. I'm not using ALSA+PulseAudio, because that combination has /always/ sucked for me, so I got the GPL'd OSS 4.1 sources and installed them, but I notice arts is a dummy package, and doesn't actually have the arts binary.
[06:04] <DaSkreech> silv3r_m00n: Without being in column mode ?
[06:06] <qcjn> it's installing lots of stuff
[06:07] <silv3r_m00n> DaSkreech: yes
[06:07] <DaSkreech> qcjn: :-)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> silv3r_m00n: Where have you seen that? And why is Column mode not good enough ?
[06:10] <silv3r_m00n> DaSkreech: i saw that in windows xp
[06:10] <qcjn> now it,s configuration of kdm..my computer is in french, so i ll try to translate..now it's at "defautl graphic session handler" gdm or kdm...would be kdm ?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Hmm I'll have to try that but I've never seen it before
[06:10] <DaSkreech>  Column mode would get that effect I suppose
[06:11] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Sure doesn't make a huge difference
[06:11] <qcjn> could you suggest me something, cause i don't have a clue ?
[06:12] <qcjn> now it's on gdm, by default..but can move it to kdm
[06:12] <DaSkreech> go to kdm
[06:13] <qcjn> back in terminal, dowloading things
[06:14] <Colonel_Panic> UGH
[06:14] <Psi-Jack> No help, eh?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Psi-Jack: Sorry come back when more people are awake
[06:15] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having a problem. I started to upgrade to Intrepid using Adept, but I keep getting the error about being unable to upgrade some packages because they couldn't be downloaded or installing them would break dependencies.
[06:15] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, not sure how many people actually use OSS, over ALSA, but .. Bleh.
[06:16] <Psi-Jack> ALSA gives me /too/ much crap to support it.
[06:16] <Psi-Jack> But this movement to ALSA+PulseAudio, is pissing me off, literally.
[06:16] <zorael> Psi; Why would you want arts? And yeah, OSS banzai :3
[06:16] <Colonel_Panic> I'm going to have to make a Live CD and just reinstall, aren't I?
[06:16] <qcjn> DaSkreech: Didn't think it would download so much stuff..Feel's like it's downloading a whole system :)
[06:16] <zorael> Using a non-portable sound system is what's deprecated
[06:16] <Psi-Jack> zorael: So KDE uses it's own sound server to shell out only one audio stream for all KDE-based apps?
[06:17] <zorael> (ALSA)
[06:17] <DaSkreech> It is a whole system :) A desktop System :)
[06:17] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Are we talking KDE3 or 4?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: No how did you upgrade ?
[06:17] <Psi-Jack> zorael: OSS is portable, that's kinda the point. But otherwise, I'm using KDE4
[06:17] <Colonel_Panic> Adept Manager
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Then you don't need arts at all
[06:18] <Psi-Jack> zorael: I did an Ubuntu 8.10 install and installed kubuntu-desktop. Followed: http://wiki.ubuntu.org.cn/UbuntuHelp:OpenSound#Special_Instructions_for_Ubuntu_8.10_.28intrepid.29
[06:18] <Colonel_Panic> It gets about 10% of the way ingo the installation process, and then I get that error
[06:18] <Psi-Jack> And installed OSS 4.1 GPL from source.
[06:18] <Colonel_Panic> *into*
[06:19] <qcjn> ok finish dowloading..be back
[06:19] <zorael> Psi-Jack: I was agreeing with you; people fling FUD at OSSv4 calling it deprecated. Nevermind. Anyway;
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[06:19] <zorael> Psi-Jack: KDE4 has Phonon to interface with ALSA, Pulse, OSS, or whatever system you pick, as far as I'm aware
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. OSSv4 is pretty nice, so far. At LEAST it fracking works.
[06:19] <Flyboarder> Hello, I am new to kubuntu and i was wondering how to install i have a install cd but all it does when i go install kubuntu is run some lines of code then stop and do nothing
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> zorael:.... Phonon?
[06:20] <Colonel_Panic> I just tried kdesu kate and it said it Could not run the specified command
[06:20] <Colonel_Panic> WTF?
[06:20] <eppan> ksudo maybe?
[06:21] <Flyboarder> any help on install?
[06:21] <Psi-Jack> zorael: According to a dpkg -L phonon, that's also got no actual binary.
[06:21] <Colonel_Panic> Why can't anything ever just work without necessitating 3 days worth of bullshit?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: whats the error?
[06:21] <Colonel_Panic> I can't use kdesu
[06:21] <zorael> Psi-Jack: I don't know to what extent it's implemented yet, but it's supposedly the KDE 4 multimedia framework; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon_(KDE)
[06:22] <Colonel_Panic> I'm going to have to just doiwnload and burn a live cd and reinstall kubuintu
[06:22] <zorael> Psi-Jack: You shouldn't _need_ to install anything extra, even if you installed kubuntu-desktop atop another installation
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: What install CD?
[06:22] <eppan> i only have kdesudo no kdesu
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Live?
[06:22] <Psi-Jack> zorael: Hmm. but when I go into...
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: I meant the package error
[06:22] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Can't you pick OSSv4 under System Settings -> Multimedia?
[06:22] <Psi-Jack> zorael: System Settings
[06:23] <Flyboarder> Kubuntu 8.10 that i got off of kubuntu.org
[06:23] <Psi-Jack> zorael: Then Sound, no, all hardware is greyed out.
[06:23] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: I've found the server upgrade helps a lot
[06:23] <Colonel_Panic> I tried upgrading twice now, but it throws this error, something like "Could not finish installing packages, either some packaged failed to download or installation would break dependencies
[06:23] <Colonel_Panic> something like that
[06:24] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: Kubunto 8.10 off of the kubuntu website
[06:24] <Colonel_Panic> then Adept exits
[06:24] <Colonel_Panic> leaving my installatkion half-done and broken
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: Ok do you get a desktop ?
[06:24] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: On that page try the server upgrade
[06:25] <Colonel_Panic> what's a server upgrade?
[06:25] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: yes i am installing on my other computer, or trying to.
[06:25] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Hmm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound#System%20Sounds%20on%20KDE%204.x
[06:25] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Install the KDE Phonon GStreamer backend:
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: They have steps for an Ubuntu upgrade a Kubuntu upgrade and a server upgrade
[06:25] <zorael> Psi-Jack: sudo apt-get install -y phonon-backend-gstreamer
[06:25] <Psi-Jack> zorael: It's installed.
[06:25] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Oh.
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: Alright let me know if you need anything
[06:26] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: well it wont install
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: This is after you get the desktop and click on Install ?
[06:26] <Colonel_Panic> I don't see that
[06:26] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: yes
[06:26] <Colonel_Panic> the server upgrade appears to be for Ubuntu
[06:26] <Colonel_Panic> not Kubuntu
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Does the installer show up atall
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> zorael: Here's the funny thing. Sound DOES work. :)
[06:27] <zorael> zorael: Well then!
[06:27] <zorael> Psi-Jack: er.
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> kmix doesn't work completely, but it works..
[06:27] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: from 8.04 to 8.10 correct ?
[06:27] <Colonel_Panic> I can't do this anyway, because I can't run kdesudo
[06:27] <zorael> Psi-Jack: I think kmix interfaces directly with alsa and not through Phonon, so you'd need to use ossmixer
[06:27] <Colonel_Panic> yeah
[06:27] <Colonel_Panic> that's what I'm trying to do
[06:27] <DaSkreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[06:28] <Psi-Jack> zorael, Right.. Kinda learned that. kmix works for the master volume at least, just not for setting things like the capture source and stuff.
[06:28] <Colonel_Panic> butI'm running Kubuntu
[06:28] <qcjn> DaSkreech: didn't change the look of the desktop, but it looks like it has different app
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Oh pffft
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: That URL ^^^
[06:28] <Colonel_Panic> Not Ubuntu
[06:28] <qcjn> compiz works
[06:28] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: The installer showes some lines of code then says "end trace" and does nothing after that
[06:28] <DaSkreech> qcjn: You logged in ?
[06:28] <qcjn> yep
[06:28] <qcjn> had to restart the computer
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: Hmm can you run a Disk integrity check ?
[06:28] <zorael> Psi-Jack: The wiki entry touches upon that as well, I see. So yeah, missing feature.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Ha not really but ok
[06:29] <zorael> Psi-Jack: Can't suggest more than to supplement kmix with ossmixer
[06:29] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Log out and press alt+T you will get a listing choose KDE then login again
[06:29] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: the disk checks out
[06:29] <DaSkreech> qcjn: To get back here open Konversation
[06:29] <zorael> Psi-Jack: though the last time I tried the latter my eyes bled.
[06:29] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: is there a guide for install?
[06:29] <Colonel_Panic> Synaptic won't start
[06:29] <qcjn> i tryed without restarting it, but since i didn't see no difference, i restarted it
[06:30] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:30] <qcjn> ow i m whit xchat, i ll look for kopete
[06:30] <Colonel_Panic> the menu link to Synaptic does nothing
[06:30] <DaSkreech> qcjn: There is an option on the login screen for sessions. Click that and choose KDE
[06:30] <DaSkreech> qcjn: you have to logout though
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: That's kinda strange. You may have to use an alternate CD
[06:31] <qcjn> there wasn't no options,...that's what i tought i would do
[06:31] <Colonel_Panic> I cannot follow this guide. It won't work
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[06:31] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: this is my thrid cd.
[06:31] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: There is a link to Ubuntu servers on that page
[06:31] <DaSkreech> That's what you want to follow
[06:31] <qcjn> be back ...try with kopete
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: Well did you check the MD5 sum for the ISO ?
[06:32] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech:??????
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !md5
[06:32] <Colonel_Panic> I cannot follow thaT TUTORIAL
[06:32] <zorael> Isn't KDE 4.2 beta 2 due today?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Why not?
[06:32] <zorael> At least according to the wikipedia entry
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:33] <Colonel_Panic> because I don't have that menu
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: You are reading the wrong part there is no menu in that section
[06:33] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: do i need ubuntu installed first?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: no
[06:33] <DaSkreech> But your computer seems fussy at the least.
[06:33] <Colonel_Panic> why do you keep posting the links to the same 2 pages? I told you it dopesn'
[06:34] <DaSkreech> If you have tested the md5 sum and checked the disk integrity then you may want to try the alternate installer CD
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: the page doesn't open ?
[06:35] <Colonel_Panic> yes the page opens
[06:35] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: will kubuntu install in VPC?
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Right there is a small menu on the right side
[06:36] <DaSkreech> With 1 2 then an indented 1 nd 2
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Click on the indented 2 entry
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Follow that
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> I'm doing a apt-get -f install
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: Yes easily
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Ok if you get an error can you pastebin it?
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> I will
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> I seem to remember having issues when I upgraded to Hardy
[06:36] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech well that is what i am currently trying and it does the same thing
[06:36] <Colonel_Panic> Or... I mean Gutsy'
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> ]wait, no it was Hardy
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> yeah
[06:37] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> I had to reinstall from a LiveCD
[06:37] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: Doesnt seem to install in VPC at all for me.
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: does it give you an error?
[06:37] <Colonel_Panic> had to re-set up all my desktop settings all over again]
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Oh dear. you don't have a /home parititon ?
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> wow this is a lot of crap it's installing
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> yes I do
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> of course I do
[06:38] <DaSkreech> Why would you have to setup your settings  again then?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Hi
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> I have no idea
[06:38] <qcjn> DaSkreech: hi
[06:38] <Colonel_Panic> it changed my desktop
[06:39] <qcjn> DaSkreech: kopete looks good
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Hi _2
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> I hope KDE4 isn't gong to cause me a lot of headaches
[06:39] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Alright you are still with compiz ?
[06:39] <_2> DaSkreech
[06:39] <Mamarok> huhu DaSkreech :)
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Depends on what you expect
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Hi Mamarok
[06:39] <zorael> Am I the only one for whom panels cover fullscreen applications, in the 4.2 beta?
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> I expect it to fucking work
[06:39] <Colonel_Panic> that's all
[06:40] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: it runs some lines with code like this: c04ab93d then the last line says end trace
[06:40] <qcjn> DaSkreech: yes, still got compiz
[06:40] <DaSkreech> zorael: You can click on the cashew and tell it not to cover applications in the more settings button
[06:40] <Riddell> ahem
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> I expect to not have a ton of problems with all my applications and stuff
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Hi Riddell are you following Flyboarder's plight ?
[06:40] <Mamarok> huhu Riddell :)
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> OK it's done fixing the deps
[06:40] <DaSkreech> !ohmy | Colonel_Panic
[06:40] <Colonel_Panic> Uh oh sorry
[06:41] <zorael> DaSkreech: Well, the normal behaviour is to have it limit the desktop area (acting as a normal activity bar), *yet* allow fullscreen applications to cover the whole screen
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> I figured nobody'd care at this hour
[06:41] <Riddell> DaSkreech: I'm afraid I'm not
[06:41] <Colonel_Panic> then again, I guess it's not the middle of the night everywhjere in the world
[06:41] <Riddell> abend Mamarok
[06:41] <zorael> DaSkreech: As it is right now, it does limit the desktop area so the panel is visible with *maximized* windows, yet fullscreen windows go beneath it, leaving it visible atop.
[06:41] <Mamarok> morgen :)
[06:41] <qcjn> DaSkreech: But one funny thing , like i told you, my desktop, looks the same..Could it be because i've installed a theme desktop, so it keeps it ?
[06:41] <DaSkreech> Riddell: On I think three machines the install app starts then spits out a backtrace and dies
[06:41] <zorael> DaSkreech: like, fullscreened Firefoxes, fullscreened media players, etc.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Good observation :)
[06:42] <DaSkreech> qcjn: I think that you are still in Gnome :) did you logout and click on sessions as I asked ?
[06:42] <Colonel_Panic> Uh... I can't use kdesu
[06:43] <Mamarok> Colonel_Panic: try kdesudo
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> so I can't open the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> kdesudo doesn't work either
[06:43] <qcjn> DaSkreech: like i've told you, thats what i wanted to do, but i didn't have this option
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: You shouldn't need to with the instructions I gave you
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> oh... wait it just did
[06:43] <_2> Colonel_Panic are you the primary user ?   (admin) ?
[06:43] <Colonel_Panic> I have to edit the /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file
[06:43] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Press alt+T it will pop up the menu even if it's hidden
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> oh, ok it says prompt=normal
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> here goes... sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Colonel_Panic: Ah sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades should work
[06:44] <qcjn> DaSkreech: in the login "when it open's"
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> I was all set to use vi
[06:44] <DaSkreech> _2: Botched upgrade
[06:44] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Hmm ?
[06:44] <Colonel_Panic> "botched"?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Well you said it stopped part way
[06:45] <DaSkreech> that's botched
[06:45] <_2> DaSkreech so is sudoers broken or is it just the kde specific app ?
[06:45] <Colonel_Panic> it appeared to do that, yes
[06:45] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: What settings should i use for VPC? "Other"????
[06:45] <Colonel_Panic> sudo works for me
[06:45] <Colonel_Panic> kdesu doesn't
[06:45] <qcjn> DaSkreech: ok
[06:45] <_2> Colonel_Panic & DaSkreech ok.   ^
[06:45] <Colonel_Panic> is this the way it's going to be with Intrepid?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Riddell: have half a moment?
[06:46] <Colonel_Panic> no more kdesu?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Unless _2 wants to attack it ? :)
[06:46] <eppan> Colonel_Panic: have you tried kdesudo?
[06:46] <DaSkreech> qcjn: what do you mean "when it open's" ?
[06:46] <Riddell> DaSkreech: the install app?  adept?
[06:46] <Colonel_Panic> yeah it worked to open kate
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Argh
[06:46] <Mamarok> Colonel_Panic: default is kdesudo
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Ubiquity
[06:47] <_2> DaSkreech on.   just going to offer support for sudo if that was the issue.
[06:47]  * Mamarok needs a coffee first
[06:47] <Colonel_Panic> OK it appears the upgrade is happening
[06:47] <Colonel_Panic> it's unpacking all my stuff now
[06:48] <Colonel_Panic> I'll check back periodically to let you guys know hoiw it's going, or if I get any problems
[06:48] <aa117> hey what's up people
[06:48] <_2> !support | aa117
[06:48] <DaSkreech> _2: Flyboarder can't get ubiquity to start
[06:49] <DaSkreech> All the machines including a Virtual machine just backtrace out and fail assert
[06:49] <_2> Flyboarder live CD ?
[06:49] <RandyCalifornia> Hello!
[06:49] <RandyCalifornia> Good evening everybody
[06:49] <_2> RandyCalifornia top of the morning to ya
[06:50] <RandyCalifornia> I'm using Kubuntu on an Ibook G3
[06:50] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[06:50] <RandyCalifornia> and I wanted to install wine,
[06:50] <Flyboarder> _2: yes
[06:50] <RandyCalifornia> but it says that it is missing, or obsolete
[06:50] <RandyCalifornia> (APT-GET)
[06:50] <_2> Flyboarder not a memory shortage is it ?
[06:50] <qcjn> DaSkreech: ok, it worked, it was there, lower left
[06:51] <Flyboarder> _@ how much does it need?
[06:51] <DaSkreech> qcjn: :)
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Looks different now ?
[06:51] <RandyCalifornia> ?
[06:51] <qcjn> yes
[06:51] <Flyboarder> _2: how much does it need?
[06:51] <_2> Flyboarder if you have more than half a gig you have plenty
[06:51] <qcjn> DaSkreech: compiz don't work anymore
[06:51] <DaSkreech> qcjn: You are on Hardy?
[06:51] <qcjn> doesn't matter for now....yes hardy
[06:51] <_2> Flyboarder 256m minumum i think now
[06:51] <Flyboarder> _2: trying to install in VPC, and yes i have a full gig in there
[06:52] <_2> Flyboarder hmmm
[06:52] <DaSkreech> qcjn: ok open a terminal and type compiz --replace to get it back
[06:52] <qcjn> ok
[06:52] <RandyCalifornia> I like Californication.....
[06:52] <Flyboarder> _2: i get a line at the bottom of a bunch or other that says end trace
[06:52] <_2> Flyboarder open a konsole and enter ubiquity
[06:52] <Flyboarder> _2: how?
[06:53] <Flyboarder> _2: if it wont install how do i open console?
[06:53] <_2> kmenu > system > konsole
[06:53] <RandyCalifornia> or press F2 and write "konsole"
[06:53] <Flyboarder> _2: on CD?
[06:53] <_2> Flyboarder yes
[06:54] <_2> Flyboarder or are we chasing our tails here, does the live cd boot in that env ?
[06:54] <_2> if the live CD is not booted it's no wonder that ubiquity wont run...
[06:54] <Riddell> DaSkreech: from which CD version?
[06:55] <Flyboarder> _2: live cd boots and loads menu then when i press install it says 'end trace'
[06:55] <qcjn> DaSkreech: No didn'T work, says Checking for Xgl: not present.  & Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators Starting gtk-window-decorator
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: This is the 8.10 CD ?
[06:55] <Flyboarder> _2: yes 8.10
[06:55] <_2> Flyboarder yse in that cd open a konsole and enter the command 'ubiquity'
[06:56] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Boo :) Well proably wants compiz-kde package installed as you say that's something to play with
[06:56] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: So you don't get a desktop ?
[06:56] <Flyboarder> _2: NO I GET NOTHING
[06:57] <Flyboarder> _2: oops srry caps lock
[06:57] <_2> then the cd is not "booting"
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: did you try the safe video mode ?
[06:57] <Flyboarder> DaSkreech: no i didnt
[06:57] <Flyboarder> ill send you both a screen shot
[06:57] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Bah buggered communication Seems that it's the CD not booting
[06:57] <qcjn> DaSkreech: well , i'll see if i want to mess around with that..Cause from what i understand..i just have to go back to gnome
[06:57] <_2> Flyboarder try safe vidio mode and see if it will boot
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Flyboarder: I think I know what you mean now. on the menu I think F4 gives you the option for safe video mode choose that then run it as normal
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Or was it F6....
[06:58] <DaSkreech> qcjn: you don't
[06:58] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[06:59] <qcjn> ok
[06:59] <surgy> hello!
[06:59] <_2> surgy
[06:59] <RandyCalifornia> hola surgy :D
[06:59] <RandyCalifornia> wassup?
[07:00] <surgy> I was wandering if there are any musicians around. I am playing my guitar directly through my sound card using the mic port and a cable i found. My question is, what do we have in the way of software? I want digital effects and recording.
[07:00] <surgy> nothin much RandyCalifornia
[07:00] <Flyboarder> _2 / DaSkreech: trying in safe video mode
[07:00] <RandyCalifornia> You can use Garage Band
[07:00] <surgy> ?
[07:01] <surgy> explain?
[07:01] <_2> surgy your favorite package manager can search for avalable software
[07:01] <RandyCalifornia> That's a Mac OS application that lets you record sound directly from your guitar
[07:01] <_2> !repos | surgy
[07:01] <grendal_prime> whats the minimunm required packages to have sftp ioslave  working in like quanta?
[07:01] <RandyCalifornia> It's very professional
[07:01] <qcjn> i can't even write the password, cause my keyboard won't work there ?
[07:02] <surgy> _2: sorry but im no noob and have been searching the repos for a few days now
[07:02] <RandyCalifornia> it lets you add more than 50 effects to the sound that you created
[07:02] <RandyCalifornia> oh... for Linux... :S
[07:02] <RandyCalifornia> Audacity?
[07:02] <surgy> RandyCalifornia: that works out of the box? or do i need a application layer or wrapper for it? also do you know of anything for digital effects?
[07:02] <Flyboarder> _2 / DaSkreech: looks like it is still not booting
[07:02] <Flyboarder> How do i do konsole?
[07:03] <surgy> yeah i have audacity
[07:03] <RandyCalifornia> first of all, what operating system are u using?
[07:03] <surgy> but no effects, im looking for a distortion pedal type thing
[07:03] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Where?
[07:03] <surgy> Kubuntu 8.04 32 bit
[07:03] <grendal_prime> audacity is a very good recorder sound processing app.    Also look into lmms for doint fruty loops type sequencing.
[07:03] <qcjn> DaSkreech: somethings wrong..Can't even minimize my xchat window...
[07:03] <_2> Flyboarder that would require the kde   which isn't what you are seeing,    maybe try using an alternate install methood ?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> qcjn: ha ha type kwin --replace
[07:03] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Sorry about that
[07:04] <_2> !alternate | Flyboarder
[07:04] <grendal_prime> surgy: crunch it...
[07:04] <DaSkreech> In terminal
[07:04] <RandyCalifornia> oh... Surgy, for what I know, the best applications for effects that the majority of musicians use is GarageBand, unfortunately, that's only for Mac OS
[07:04] <RandyCalifornia> it works just right out of the box
[07:04] <grendal_prime> overdrive it with a preamp, pretty easy to do in the machine
[07:04] <surgy> grendal_prime: crunch it?
[07:04] <grendal_prime> thats what distortion is.
[07:05] <surgy> yeah
[07:05] <RandyCalifornia> Ableton Live 7
[07:05] <surgy> mind if i pm you to avoid being off topic?
[07:05] <RandyCalifornia> that's another one
[07:05] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Worked ?
[07:05] <grendal_prime> stacking up the signal to the max...with a preamp...look for things like gain on the channel you want distorted.
[07:07] <surgy> grendal_prime: and actually audacity has proven slow and i cant get it to pickup input from my guitar
[07:07] <DaSkreech> !info compiz-kde hardy
[07:07] <surgy> grendal_prime: in windows its nice but the linux version seams to be slow
[07:08] <Flyboarder> _2: alternate is doing the same thing
[07:08] <Flyboarder> _2: also konsole isnt on the cd
[07:08] <Flyboarder> _2: or i cant find it
[07:09] <_2> Flyboarder ok.  describe exactly what it is doing
[07:09] <grendal_prime> ive never had any problems with that app in linux..windows? ive never run it in windows, and as far as you guitar...does it have some sort of digital output or are you sending it analog to the computer (through some sort of soundcard?)
[07:09] <Flyboarder> _2: i am trying to install kubuntu in vpc
[07:10] <_2> Flyboarder that much i knew.    and...
[07:10] <grendal_prime> if you are using analog signal, test the input with a mic, if that works and your guitar does not, maybe you need to line input it into the box (use the line in on the computer)
[07:10] <Flyboarder> _2: i get install menu screen, but after i press install it runes a few lines of code then says ' end trace '
[07:10] <Flyboarder> _2: runs*
[07:10] <surgy> grendal_prime: im using a 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch adaptor on a male/male stereo cable from my guitar's output port to my soundcards mic in port. Then use Kmix to amplify the signal and i have Logitech 5.1 saround sound and a decent practice amp
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> Now.
[07:11] <_2> Flyboarder and you have waited for a few minutes to make sure it wasn't just probing for network connections or something ???
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> Next problem. Dun dun duuuuuun. Firefox's tabs are kinda screwed up.
[07:11] <grendal_prime> you now i think they make a digitizer for guitars, i think they are cheep too...might want to look into that.
[07:12] <surgy> yeah?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> hi qcjn
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> What's up with KDE mucking up the tabs in Firefox?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> Still can't use the keyboard ?
[07:12] <grendal_prime> ya, look into analog to digital signal processor
[07:12] <Flyboarder> _2: yes
[07:12] <qcjn> DaSkreech: computer crashed, so i came back to gnome for now, cause i don't really have an hour or so, to play with that
[07:12] <_2> Flyboarder ok, and what is the message just above "end trace"  ?
[07:12] <surgy> basicly im not all that searious at playing, and i just want to work on my metal riffs, no distortion == no metal
[07:12] <DaSkreech> woah.
[07:12] <RandyCalifornia> how can I install wine on Kubuntu PPC?
[07:12] <Flyboarder> _2 : a line consisting of a bunch of [07:12] <Psi-Jack> apt-get install wine
[07:12] <RandyCalifornia> I already used adept manager,
[07:13] <grendal_prime> you just jack right into the computer..
[07:13] <RandyCalifornia> and apt-get install wine
[07:13] <_2> Flyboarder ok and above that ?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> qcjn: ok  Well when you do here should help. If I'm on poke me
[07:13] <RandyCalifornia> but it says something is missing or obsolete...
[07:13] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[07:13] <DaSkreech> qcjn: install the package compiz-kde and compiz should play nicely with KDE in the future
[07:13] <surgy> grendal_prime: yes i do, and now im looking for a decent program for effects :)
[07:13] <grendal_prime> straight up guitarhero meets the matrix type shiznit!!!
[07:14] <surgy> grendal_prime: dam right, but im afraid of messing up this channel, mind chatting elsewhere?
[07:14] <grendal_prime> no no dude im talking about the analog to digital-izer thang.
[07:14] <qcjn> DaSkreech: ok, cause now, i've already passed my bedtime...work tomorrrow morning, it,s 2h15 here
[07:14] <RandyCalifornia> help please :(
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Night
[07:14] <Flyboarder> _2: <c04ab09e>] _int_begin+0x9e/0xa9
[07:14] <_2> !wine | RandyCalifornia perhaps it's a repo thang?
[07:14] <qcjn> DaSkreech: thanks alot
[07:14] <DaSkreech> RandyCalifornia: what is missing ?
[07:14] <grendal_prime> na man google that stuff
[07:14] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Sure
[07:14] <grendal_prime> i need to get som pages done.
[07:14] <surgy> ha ha
[07:14] <surgy> wel lthanks for the chat bro
[07:15] <RandyCalifornia> ok, let me run konsole again and I'll tell you
[07:15] <surgy> and since when does ubottu say "thang" ? lol
[07:15] <qcjn> i've hadded this channel to open, when i open xcaht
[07:15] <qcjn> xchat
[07:15] <_2> Flyboarder ok and one line higher ?    (this is not just to keep you busy, i'm trying to see where the initramfs is hanging)
[07:15] <DaSkreech> qcjn: nice I'll see you around then :)
[07:16] <qcjn> yes...good night to you, & all
[07:16] <RandyCalifornia> night y'all
[07:16] <RandyCalifornia> so
[07:16] <RandyCalifornia> here it goes
[07:16] <Flyboarder> _2: unknows_bootoption+0x0/0x200
[07:17] <RandyCalifornia> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:17] <Flyboarder> _2: unknows*
[07:17] <Flyboarder> _2: unknown**
[07:17] <_2> Flyboarder ok. that might be what we are looking for... give me a second.
[07:17] <RandyCalifornia> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:17] <RandyCalifornia> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[07:18] <RandyCalifornia> that's what konsole says
[07:18] <_2> !repos > RandyCalifornia
[07:18] <surgy> is there a way that i can add all the software from a different kubuntu distro in one command? like i want all the recording software from ubuntu studio
[07:18] <tkstka> Need help: I'm newb and so this is quite hard for me.. I've installed compiz and compiz-fusion config..  Now the transparency doesnt work because when a window is selected the top bar is totally blue not maching my other layouts. alt+tab doesnt work anymore after I tried to select cube so now no action from alt+tab..
[07:19] <tkstka> PLease phelp
[07:19] <_2> RandyCalifornia if that's not it, then there may not be a wine version for your g3 hardware ????   idk.
[07:19] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[07:20] <eagles0513875> im having an issue with amarok when trying ot play songs from my vista desktop it keeps saying no input plugin but when i copy a song to the laptop it works just fine O_o any ideas im on amarok 1.4
[07:20] <_2> but definitely worth lookins at the repos (sources.list) RandyCalifornia
[07:21] <surgy> ?
[07:21] <eagles0513875> !ubuntu-studio
[07:21] <eagles0513875> !info ubuntu-studio
[07:21] <RandyCalifornia> ok, so how do I fix the repositories?
[07:22] <eagles0513875> surgy there is a package not sure what its called off the top of my head
[07:22] <_2> see the bot
[07:22] <RandyCalifornia> got it
[07:22] <RandyCalifornia> thanks
[07:22] <_2> Flyboarder are you not seeing any "kernel panic" at the end of that.
[07:22] <_2> ?
[07:23] <RandyCalifornia> when did the bot came to the Ubuntu IRC?
[07:23] <_2> when ubuntu came to freenode
[07:23] <surgy> !ubuntu studio package
[07:23] <eagles0513875> RandyCalifornia its always in here
[07:23] <_2> 2004 to be exact
[07:23] <RandyCalifornia> Firts time I seen it...
[07:23] <eagles0513875> !ubuntu-studio | surgy
[07:24] <Flyboarder> _2: no i dont see any such line
[07:24] <RandyCalifornia> :S
[07:24] <Flyboarder> _2: i see a start kernal line
[07:24] <eagles0513875> surgy you might be better off asking in the #ubuntustudio channel about that package
[07:24] <surgy> eagles0513875: doing so now, they are kindof dead though
[07:25] <_2> Flyboarder hmmm  that's not good.     did you try the install iso specally for vertual machines ?   it's on the install page
[07:25] <_2> or linked from    i mean.
[07:25] <Flyboarder> _2: no i didnt see such iso
[07:26] <eagles0513875> surgy then on command line do apt-cache search ubuntu studio
[07:26] <eagles0513875> and that will bring up ubuntu studio related packages
[07:26] <surgy> eagles0513875: doing so now
[07:26] <_2> Flyboarder  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines   have a look at this.  maybe it will help.
[07:28] <Flyboarder> _2: it lists vpc but doesnt give any info on what to do
[07:29] <_2> Flyboarder might bookmark https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Other    i'll look some more.
[07:29] <DaSkreech> tkstka: try installing compiz-kde
[07:29] <eagles0513875> DaSkreech any idea bout my issue
[07:30] <RandyCalifornia> oh crap! I had the server for El Salvador :S
[07:30] <RandyCalifornia> lol
[07:32] <RandyCalifornia> help!
[07:33] <_2> Flyboarder well i must be high or something, cause i can't find the iso for vertual machine installs either now...
[07:33] <RandyCalifornia> I put on the command thing aewm
[07:33] <RandyCalifornia> and Kubuntu is acting weird now :S
[07:34] <Flyboarder> _2: lol
[07:34] <RandyCalifornia> please, help :(
[07:34] <Flyboarder> _2: can i upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu? 'cuz i will try to install that aswell
[07:36] <_2> Flyboarder *buntu is *buntu is *buntu     it's one os, with different default desktop/apps
[07:37] <_2> or in other words  No you can't upgrade from  1 to 1    because    1 = 1
[07:37] <Flyboarder> but i can change ubuntu into kubunto by switching gnome for kde right?
[07:38] <_2> to complete that thought...   you can install the kubuntu defaluts on any version of *buntu  yes.     and you can install the ubuntu defaults on any version of *buntu  yes.
[07:39] <phant0m2000> does anyone know where i can find kubuntu drivers for zte zxdsl 852 usb adsl modem?
[07:39]  * _2 has xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop installed on his *buntu system.
[07:39] <Flyboarder> kk even my ubunto cd does the same thing
[07:39] <_2> yes i expected it would.
[07:39] <_2> they are the same up to the desktop...
[07:40] <RandyCalifornia> holy smokes!! Linux big crash :S
[07:40] <Flyboarder> so is this problem my computer or the cd?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> _2: Your menu must look wondeful :)
[07:40] <_2> Flyboarder well, more like the vertualisation plus the install cd in combination.
[07:41] <Flyboarder> ok ok so what do i do? I want to implement kubunto in an environment that will use multiple systems but i need to test everything virtually
[07:42] <_2> DaSkreech heh.  it's editable in all three of those.   i also have fluxbox blackbox jwm fvwm icewm icewm95 twm window-maker e16 and a few others installed.
[07:43] <_2> Flyboarder do you have ubuntu installed anywhere at all ?
[07:43] <Flyboarder> no
[07:43] <DaSkreech> _2: No e17? Booo :)
[07:44] <_2> Flyboarder hmmm i was going to suggest cloning to the vertual env,    but that's out....
[07:44] <_2> DaSkreech no.  i do try to stick with things in the repos and this is still dapper.
[07:44] <phant0m2000> please answer me guys !!!!
[07:44] <Flyboarder> well i will edit the partition of my hard drive and attempt to install there
[07:45] <Flyboarder> its 2 a.m. so im gittin the sack thats for all the help hopefully i wont need to be back
[07:45] <DaSkreech> phant0m2000: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=639514
[07:45] <_2> phant0m2000 it's not common place for people to answer  "no i don't know"  unless specificly addressed, but sense you asked,  no i don't.
[07:45] <phant0m2000> thaNKS MAN
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Also http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-install-zxdsl-modem-on-ubuntu-673736/
[07:48] <_2> too bad that flyboarder already left i found another possable solution.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix
[07:50] <RandyCalifornia> no wine :(
[07:51] <_2> !wine | RandyCalifornia did you look at the winehq site ?
[07:51] <anr78> The msn protocol has disappeared from my Kopete
[07:52] <_2> thought the link was still on the infonode  sorry
[07:52] <RandyCalifornia> yes, yes, I changed the repositories,
[07:52] <RandyCalifornia> nothing :S
[07:54] <_2> i meant  http://winehq.org/   to see if they mention any reason it might not work for your hardware possably ?
[07:54] <RandyCalifornia> They claim it works,
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> but, I tried to fix the repositories
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> and no luck
[07:55] <RandyCalifornia> I can't even find totem
[07:55] <_2> then if it's not in the ubuntu repos (which i have trouble concieving)  get the source and build it ?
[07:55] <_2> wait.  totem ?     pastebin your sources.list
[07:56] <_2> !pastebin
[07:56] <_2> sources.list location is  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:56] <RandyCalifornia> ok... looking at then
[07:57] <itsmesilly> hi..i changed my C drive n install the windows xp on new c drive other physical drive had the kubuntu on it now how do i get the linux back in the boot menu?
[07:58] <_2> !grub | itsmesilly reinstall grub you mean ?
[07:59] <_2> backwards is my english ?
[08:01] <_2> RandyCalifornia are you going to pastebin your sources.list for me ?    i'm pretty sure the problem is there.
[08:01] <_2> !lag
[08:04] <tkstka> help how do I install video drivers
[08:04] <eyestaples> everying was running fine on my system. i went to system>preferences>compizconfig manager and now it loads off screen, i cant find it and i have to use terminal "CCSM" to call it into my workspace. anyone have any idea?
[08:04] <tkstka> there was this program
[08:04] <tkstka> but I cant seem to remember it's name
[08:05] <_2> !nv | tkstka
[08:05] <_2> !envy
[08:06]  * _2 thinks RandyCalifornia fell asleep at the wheel
[08:10] <_2> eyestaples you might remove a symlink from ~/.kde*/Autostart/   that might be where the app is being called at login,   also you might right click it's title bar and set it to remember it's location and size might help...
[08:11] <itsmesilly> is there kubuntu 8.10 with kde3?
[08:11] <_2> itsmesilly i think so....
[08:11] <Mamarok> itsmesilly: no
[08:11] <eyestaples> thanks
[08:11] <_2> Mamarok you can install kde3 in intrepid can't you ?
[08:12] <Mamarok> _2: well, you can, but one has to remove kde4 first, which means either doing all this in CLI or install another desktop first
[08:12] <_2> Mamarok or not install kde4 at all.
[08:12] <Mamarok> and it makes no sense, better stay with Hardy then
[08:13] <Mamarok> itsmesilly: if you absolutely *need* kde3, stay with 8.04
[08:13] <surgy> jack audio is either not installed or not working properlly can someone give me a hand getting jack to do his job?
[08:13] <_2> itsmesilly ok.  short answer, yes it can be done.  you can install either server install or one of the other desktops  then add kde3
[08:14] <Mamarok> _2: but it's not a good idea, he is better off with 8.04
[08:14] <_2> Mamarok i'm sure he has noted that also.
[08:15]  * _2 does many things that are "not good ideas"
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> Wow. I'm in love with Dolphin!
[08:16] <_2> !jack
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> heh
[08:16] <_2> ubottu doesn't know jack about jack  ;/
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> What do you want to know about me?
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> :)
[08:17] <_2> not you.  jack audio   and surgy was asking
[08:18] <surgy> lol
[08:18] <surgy> can anyone give me a hand getting this guy to do something? anything at all
[08:18] <_2> !info jack
[08:19] <_2> surgy it is installed ?
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> Bleh.
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> Another useless audio layer that should never exist.
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> esound, arts, SDL, libao, jackaudio, pulseaudio, WHY DO THESE EXIST?
[08:19] <surgy> lol well i installed ubuntu-studio and at least 60% of the tools require it
[08:20] <surgy> so how cani make it work? and i allready wernt digging through apt
[08:20] <Psi-Jack> Now at least arts is no longer a sound mixer, though.
[08:22] <_2> hmm   so maybe you need to do something like    sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop ;sudo /etc/init.d/jackaudio restart       or even just something like  jack<tab_key>   and see what commands are avalable   ?
[08:23] <_2> !jackaudio
[08:23] <surgy> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:24] <_2> that looks like you typed in <tab_key>  in place of hitting the tab key
[08:24] <_2> !tab | surgy
[08:24] <Psi-Jack> How do I configure Dolphin's "Places" list?
[08:25] <_2> surgy and that concludes my guess work for the day  ;/
[08:26] <_2> Mamarok can you answer Psi-Jack ?     cause idk.
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> Eh?
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> I don't do libao, sdl, pulseaudio, or jack.
[08:26] <surgy> _2: lol you seam to be in the "helping mood" ok heres my exact problem, I installed the ubuntu-studion over my exsisting kubuntu installation so i would have both tool sets. Since 60% of the studio tools require jack audio i assumed it was instaleld. I have searched the repos several times using several key words and cant find a specific "jack audio" package, nor can i confirm it is installed at all
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> They are all the reason Linux sound is horrible, that and ALSA itself.
[08:27] <surgy> Psi-Jack: well then do you play an instrument through your soundcard?
[08:27] <Psi-Jack> surgy: I plug them in.
[08:28] <Psi-Jack> What a concept, eh? ;)
[08:29] <surgy> Psi-Jack: i play my guitar through my computer using my soundcard and 5.1 speakers as a practice amp. Im trying to get distortion/wah/flang effects in real time but i either cant find the software or the software i have requires jack audio which leads me to my previous problem
[08:29] <_2> the reason that sound is lacking in linux is because the hardware for the most part is not hardware but 1/2 hardware and 3/4 code that uses the cpu to emulate sound hardware.
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> _2: That's not the whole problem.
[08:29] <Mamarok> sry, was afk
[08:30]  * Mamarok reads back
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> _2: The biggest problem of all, is ALSA< to be blunt.
[08:30] <_2> use oss
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> Which FINALLY is back to opensource again, GPL even, so perfectly acceptable to start integrating OSS4 into the kernel again, and improve it with the newfound knowledge of ALSA, but make it better.
[08:30] <surgy> audacity wont even pick up sound from my guitar unless its hooked into the mic jack and then its so quit i have to amplify it till it sounds like junk
[08:30] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: got an answer about your Dolphin question?
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, Not yet
[08:31] <surgy> no solutions to my problem?
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> I got hooked into talking about the problem of Linux Sound. ;)
[08:31] <Psi-Jack> surgy: Jack Audio is a pain to use, seriously. They make it sound all easy, but it's about as bad, honestly, as pulseaudio
[08:31] <surgy> Psi-Jack: any recommendations for software to solve my problems then?
[08:31] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: to add entries just do a right click on the free space in the "Places" column
[08:32] <surgy> becuase so far jack audio is the only solution i have found, so i either need to fix that or find "non jack" oriented software
[08:32] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: to hide existing entries, right click on them and choose "hide..."
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, : Tried. It doesn't do anything..
[08:33] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: does this answer your question?
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> I can hide them, sure, but not add any. I did try that, right clicking the empty space. ;)
[08:34] <surgy> ok well back to google for a few hours :(
[08:35] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: what version of kde ar you using?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> surgy: Curious, have you tried the jackaudio channel?
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok: KDE 4, from Ubuntu 8.10
[08:35] <Mamarok> hm, strange, same here and it works
[08:35] <surgy> Psi-Jack: #jackaudio? lol
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> Yeah for me, right click does nothing, in the empty space.
[08:35] <Psi-Jack> surgy, likely. ;)
[08:35] <Mamarok> "Add entry.." opens a window where you can choose
[08:35] <surgy> Psi-Jack: empty
[08:36] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: in the empty space below the existing entries?
[08:36] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, : Interesting.
[08:36] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, I dragged and dropped..
[08:36] <Psi-Jack> It worked, how ironic. ;)
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> God I love KDE4! They REALLY changed my mind about KDE again. As usual.
[08:37] <Mamarok> :)
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> Snappy snazzy and fast. Innovation to the max!
[08:38] <eppan> most u dont notice until you try something different for a sec :P
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> Yeah!
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> Like oops.. Dragging a dropping the places up and it forms a new tabbed structure between the folder view and places view.
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> Pick it up again, drag it to the bottom, it snaps back in on the bottom.
[08:39] <jussi01> As much as I love to see Kubuntu being praised, can we do it in #kubuntu-offtopic? :)
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> This is a topic of kubuntu.
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> Now. Dolphin view modes..
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> How do I get "Detail" to be the default, view, without setting them all that way, keeping the ability to keep some directories a different view mode?
[08:41] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: well, this is a support channel, for loose discussions, rants, praises, etc. the -offtopic is a better choice :)
[08:41] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: explore the settings
[08:41] <eagles0513875> morning Mamarok and jussi01
[08:41] <Mamarok> hi eagles0513875
[08:42] <Psi-Jack> I think I figured it out. Had to turn on the default view while detail view was up, and then set it back to allow customized views. ;)
[08:42] <Psi-Jack> Otherwise, though. There was no explicit setting.
[08:42] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: the logic way allways is to go to Settings and explore the various possibilities
[08:43] <||arifaX> I am currenly adding a new network printer. on the wizard I want to provide a ppd file. I enter the full path to it and the browse button "..." and the "Forward" Button do not react in any way!
[08:44] <||arifaX> when choosing a generic printer and change the ppd file later it works. it looks like a bug
[08:45] <eagles0513875> im having an interesting issue wiht smbfs when i try to mount my windows machine drive it says that smbfs it says command not found
[08:46] <Mamarok> ||arifaX: no idea, did you look at the bugs section in launchpad about that?
[08:48] <eagles0513875> ||arifaX netowork printers is usually managed by cups
[08:48] <eagles0513875> !info cups
[08:48] <eagles0513875> !cups
[08:48] <eagles0513875> ||arifaX those links for cups might help you
[08:49] <||arifaX> eagles0513875: If I have a desktop system and there is a printer wizard then it should work. It worked with KDE 3.5. KDE 4 is ugly at the moment - so ugly!
[08:52] <eagles0513875> ||arifaX havent tried cups in 4.1.3 yet
[08:52] <eagles0513875> ||arifaX what version of kde are you on
[08:53] <||arifaX> eagles0513875: the one that shipped with 8.10
[08:54] <atno> !automated
[08:54] <christaker> hello. i have problem with kate. It doesn't save my sessions :( any idea ?
[08:55] <Psi-Jack> Not sure I like adept, though. Seems restrictive of use.. typing in 'kde' or 'art' as a search query, and nothing comes up, but combine the two, 'kdeart' and sure enough it actually finds things.
[08:57] <atno> !automate
[08:57] <eagles0513875> !bugfixing
[08:57] <eagles0513875> !packaging
[08:59] <Psi-Jack> Okay, next problem. I right click on a directory, Properties, Share tab. It prompts for elevated permissions for root, no problem, but then nothing. .xsession-errors reports: findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found
[08:59] <Mamarok> please folks, don't abuse the bot, unless you really need to...
[09:00] <atno> good morning
[09:00] <Psi-Jack> Still with Dolphin BTW. ;)
[09:01] <atno> i managed to boot my ubuntu machine via the PXE protocol, that's the good news, the bad news are that i have to manualy install ubuntu on every machine and thats a pain in the @#@ because there are 16 machines
[09:01] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: again, works here
[09:01] <Psi-Jack> hehe. That's great. ;)
[09:02] <atno> is there a parameter to pass at PXE for unattended/automated installation
[09:02] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: once you give your password it should open a window where you can set the smb or nfs parameters
[09:02] <Mamarok> unless neither of them is installed, then...
[09:03] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, That's what I would expect, but instead, I get: findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found
[09:04] <Mamarok> strange... what exact kde4 version do you use, 4.1.2 or else?
[09:04] <atno> anyone?
[09:05] <eagles0513875> im having some issues with smbfs can someone help me out
[09:05] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: no, sry
[09:05] <Mamarok> never used smb
[09:06] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, Yes. kdebase-bin is 4.1.2
[09:07] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, But, seeings that it's looking for a service.. Obviously something is not running. findServiceByDesktopPath: fileshare.desktop not found
[09:07] <eagles0513875> anyone in here used smbfs that can help me with it
[09:08] <silleme> getting ready to do fresh instal/ upgrade from feisty to hardy.  Am fairly new to setups in linux... need clarification re:partitions. have an idea of a preferred partition setup but wish to runby someone.  also a few absic setup questions.  anyone avail to review my setup?
[09:08] <jussi01> !anyone | eagles0513875
[09:09] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: hm, that's beyond my knowledge, mybe an update to 4.1.3 could solve it
[09:09] <Psi-Jack> But, 4.1.3 is not in Ubuntu's repos.
[09:09]  * eagles0513875 just goes to google.com/linux
[09:09] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: there's a ppa repo for it, moment
[09:09] <atno> anyone can help me with PXE automated installation ?
[09:09] <atno> !pxw
[09:09] <atno> !pxe
[09:10] <atno> !netboot
[09:10] <eagles0513875> im having issues with nmap also it seems
[09:10] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: enable unsupported-updates in Adept
[09:11] <Psi-Jack> Ack.
[09:11] <eagles0513875> it doesnt seem to show what ports i have open on my local machine
[09:11] <Psi-Jack> NOOOOO thank you, I will google, and find the proper answer. ;)
[09:11] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: did you check the manpages?
[09:12] <Psi-Jack> Yeah.
[09:12] <eagles0513875> Mamarok double checking now
[09:12] <Psi-Jack> Like installing kdenetwork-filesharing which is not part of kubuntu-desktop.
[09:12] <eagles0513875> O_o
[09:12] <eagles0513875> !info kdenetwork-filesharing
[09:12] <eagles0513875> im wondering if this is part of my mp3 not playing issue
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> Doubtful, eagles0513875
[09:13] <eagles0513875> Psi-Jack anything is possible
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> But yeah, it fixed my problem with the sharing dialog not working.
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> eagles0513875, No.
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> Not anything.
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> kdenetwork-filesharing is for KDE's SMB/NFS file sharing configuration dialogs.
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> That's it.
[09:14] <Psi-Jack> It will not enhance your problems with MP3.
[09:14] <eagles0513875> im starting to wonder if this is a bug with samba
[09:16] <Psi-Jack> Though, it's giving an ASSERT error trying to add a share for me. Ahh well.
[09:17] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: if your mp3 are not playing, this can be related to: missing codec, missing permissions, wrong encoding, etc, but do not blame "anything"
[09:17] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm. Here's a cool idea!
[09:17] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: read the forum posts in Amarok, pretty sure there has been similar questions before
[09:18] <Psi-Jack> I have a 4-button mouse, a Logitech Click! Optical.. Could I set KDE up to load up the Plasma Dashboard when I click the 4th button? ;D
[09:18] <silleme> preparing for fresh instal. would like dual boot win/kubuntu. winxp on seperate HD.  disk 1 partitions--> ext3 (primary) and swp and FAT32 (logical). is this ok disk setup or better setup to suggest for dual boot system?  THX----------------
[09:19] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: sounds cool indeed, but can't tell you if it's doable, maybe not yet
[09:26] <silleme> helooooooo?
[09:27] <Mamarok> !patience | silleme
[09:31] <FisherPrice> is there really any benefit from upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[09:32] <silleme> dccdcdvc dc
[09:32] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: depends what you need/want
[09:33] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: if you already use kde4 you should
[09:33] <FisherPrice> no, i don't
[09:33] <FisherPrice> i guess I'm just a tiny bit nervous about intrepid
[09:34] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: if you want a stable system and don't need the latest software, stay with 8.04
[09:34] <Mamarok> if you are comfortable with using advanced user software, then why not give it a try?
[09:35] <FisherPrice> yeah
[09:35] <FisherPrice> there's things like compiz, awn, which i wouldn't mind being a bit more advanced
[09:35] <Mamarok> the end user version of kde 4.2 will be released at the end of January, daily snapshots are already available with the Neon packages
[09:36] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: well, KDE4 doesn't use Compiz but Desktop Effects which is specific to KDE4
[09:36] <FisherPrice> and other programs like digikam, and kmymoney
[09:36] <FisherPrice> I'll youtube kde4
[09:36] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: you might try Neon first, it doesn't replace your existing setup
[09:37] <Mamarok> !neon | FisherPrice
[09:37] <maggo79> but: neon -> no language-packs
[09:37] <FisherPrice> cool
[09:39] <Mamarok> maggo79: well, one can not have everything :)
[09:40] <DreadKnight> what's the deal with bluetooth in kde4.2? i've never used bluetooth with my laptop so far..
[09:41] <DreadKnight> how do i check for devices / transfer data?
[09:41] <FisherPrice> so, let me get this straight.. i install this and I can get kde(nightly) on my hardy
[09:41] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: yes, make sure to use the hardy repo for it, then logout and login to a kde-neon session
[09:43] <aldin> hi, how can i list all installed packages (i want to sync two computers), so i can apt-get install "listed" packages
[09:44] <eppan> !clone
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know of an alarm program that supports Amarok and volume panning upwards, so it doesn't start out blaring right away?
[09:45] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: not for A2, no
[09:45] <aldin> !automate
[09:45] <Mamarok> there was something for A1, but don't know if one could set volume increasing
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> I know dcop amarok player play, will play the music..
[09:46] <aldin> eppan: thanks
[09:47] <maggo79> aldin: another way: dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-169062.html
[09:47] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: but be patient, I'm sure with the new dbus support and javascript someone will come up with something soon :)
[09:47] <Psi-Jack> Mamarok, This is Amarok 1.4.10
[09:48] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: check kde-apps-org, there is a script for 1.4.x, you shoudl be able to install it directly from Amarok
[09:48] <Mamarok> *should
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> Got it, weekalarm
[09:54] <FisherPrice> Mamarok: when i insert the deb line for neon into my sources.list the update hangs
[09:55] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: hangs? which means?
[09:56] <FisherPrice> it just made me lie
[09:56] <FisherPrice> :S
[09:56] <maggo79> FisherPrice: are the backports enabled?
[09:56] <FisherPrice> maggo79: yes
[09:57] <Mamarok> maggo79: hm, neon is not in the backports AFAIK
[09:58] <FisherPrice> i guess the nightly stopped being packaged for hardy when intrepid was released eh
[09:58] <maggo79> Mamarok: but i think you need some software from the backports to install software from neon (dependencies)
[09:58] <FisherPrice> it seems to be working
[09:58] <FisherPrice> there's no dependancy problems
[10:00] <maggo79> FisherPrice: I think you're right: http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages
[10:01] <maggo79> Package: kde-nightly-kdebase; Version: 20081024.1+svn875549-0neon1
[10:06] <word> Hey, I deleted some files i thought i didn't need...only to realize i wrote down a cdkey to one of my programs in them...i recovered all the text files from the partition which is a -lot- so I was wondering what the best way would be to search through them?
[10:07] <vge> fgrep -ir "searchword" *
[10:08] <maggo79> word: the search function from kde allows you to search in files, too.
[10:08] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: my bad, sorry, but then, would have been a bit much to maintain for one single person
[10:09] <Mamarok> FisherPrice: I sue Neon in 8.10 and it's very stable
[10:09] <Mamarok> *use
[10:09] <word> vge, maggo79, but i don't know the actual cdkey...so could i do something like ****-****-****-****?
[10:09] <FisherPrice> yeah i understand that
[10:09] <FisherPrice> no problems
[10:11] <vge> word: im sorry bad im quite bad on shell regexps and i think regexp is the way to go here
[10:11] <elisiano> what's the deal?
[10:15] <maggo79> word: regexps are the solution (with kfind or a shell app)
[10:16] <word> maggo79: ok umm what would the regexp be like for that? any idea?
[10:18] <preston> can i get root in kubuntu with kdesudo
[10:18] <maggo79> word: (I'm not a regexps-guru :-)) Perhaps .{4}-.{4}-.{4}-.{4}
[10:19] <maggo79> word: http://www.evolt.org/article/rating/20/22700/
[10:19] <Mamarok> preston: yes
[10:20] <Mamarok> preston: sudo in the command line
[10:20] <maggo79> word: http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html
[10:20] <preston> i will use it wisely and sparingly
[10:20] <word> maggo79: thanks :D
[10:20] <preston> only to adjust my nividia settings so they will stay after reboot
[10:21] <preston> mamarok are you speaking of sudo or su, or kdesudo?
[10:26] <Mamarok> preston: kdesudo for applications, sudo in the command line
[10:27] <elisiano> word: since I connected after your question, can you repeat it please?
[10:27] <preston> got it mamarok, also after installing nvidia driver iver got desktop effects, where are the settings located
[10:27] <preston> my 1st time with kde 4
[10:27] <Mamarok> preston: you can set them in the system settings
[10:28] <Mamarok> ->desktop
[10:28] <preston> ah found it, i overlooked it before
[10:28] <zhs> ?
[10:28] <zhs> you ren me?
[10:28] <Mamarok> zhs: no, he was talking to me :)
[10:29] <zhs> i'm sorry ~
[10:29] <preston> thanks mamarok
[10:29] <Mamarok> :)
[10:30] <preston> if you dont mind me asking how has 8.10 and kde 4 been long term so to speak
[10:30] <zhs> where're you from ?
[10:30] <Mamarok> preston: I use KDE4 sinc the beginnings, and 4.1.2 is already very stable
[10:30] <Mamarok> zhs: this is a support channel
[10:31] <Mamarok> *since
[10:31] <zhs> i'm a new~
[10:31] <Mamarok> preston: currently I use kde-nightly, which is the current kde ç.2 snapshot
[10:31] <preston> good to hear
[10:31] <elisiano> Mamarok: I had a dual screen setup that got messed up with the transition from 3.5 to 4.X, so I don't think it's that stable :)
[10:31] <elisiano> (indeed I have to use GNOME on that pc :( )
[10:32] <Mamarok> elisiano: I never said that everything was, but pretty stable is the right word
[10:32] <Mamarok> elisiano: also, dual screen is not basic setup, so...
[10:32] <elisiano> :O
[10:32] <elisiano> :D
[10:32] <maggo79> dual-screen setup with kde 4.2 beta1 is working here
[10:33] <preston> thanks again mamarok gonna restart
[10:33] <elwood> hi
[10:33] <Mamarok> preston: you are welcome :)
[10:33] <maggo79> I had some issues with the desktop -> zoom out/zoom in resolved it
[10:33] <elwood> Mamarok:  are you using the kde-nightly on 8.10?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip2> Mamarok: i got all those nightlys in, it canes my ram pretty good
[10:34] <elwood> Mamarok: il akonadi server working for you?
[10:34] <elwood> *is
[10:35] <Mamarok> elwood: I don't use it, but seems to run, yes
[10:35] <elwood> Mamarok: ok, so my problems are really mine :) thanks
[10:35] <ActionParsnip2> i use it, its not bad
[10:40] <Mamarok> brb
[10:49] <elijah_frost> Good day ladies and gentlemen
[10:51] <ActionParsnip2> werd
[10:51] <werdnum> what?
[10:51] <elijah_frost> I have installed libcodeblocks0_8.02-0ubuntu1_i386.deb package, wich comes with CodeBlocks 8.02 C++ IDE. However, when I launch it again, the Install button is ... enabled again (i.e. I can "install" this package over and over again). The problem is, I can't install codeblocks itself because it requires that strange library
[10:52] <elijah_frost> more to say, it is unable for me to remove that strange lib
[10:52] <elijah_frost> What am I doing wrong?
[10:52] <werdnum> elijah_frost: have you tried using apt-get to install/remove it instead of the GUI?
[10:52] <elijah_frost> I did
[10:53] <elijah_frost> As I said, using "apt-get remove <strange_lib_name> returns stuff like "no packages found"
[10:54] <elijah_frost> It seems like for apt-get the package is not installed, that's why I can't remove it from CLI
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> elijah_frost: try: dpkg -l | grep libcodeblock
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> elijah_frost: it will show you what its called
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> you can then sudo dpkg -r <name>
[10:57] <Psi-Jack> Goodie, now that I got weekalarm installed, it
[10:58] <Psi-Jack> It's not actually working in Amarok. :/
[10:58] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip2
[10:58] <eagles0513875> hi
[10:59] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip2 i need some help tracking down a bug
[10:59] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: hm, it should work with Amarok 1.4.10
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> Yes.. It should, but I tested it out several times, with 2 minutes ahead of time. Never started.
[11:00] <Mamarok> Psi-Jack: you might check with the script author then
[11:12] <mehrab> hey guys
[11:12] <mehrab> I've updated my openoffice 3.0 through kununtu repos, and now I cannot even open OOo
[11:13] <mehrab> a recovery message appear and after I click on each of the buttons It will close
[11:14] <mehrab> any idea?
[11:18] <eagles0513875> mehrab there are bugs out about it being broken
[11:19]  * geiseri pokes around for Riddell
[11:21] <estan> hrmf. trying to set up a printer using the CUPS web interface, since there's no printer config in kde4. but it prompts me for user/password.. is there no way to add a printer in kubuntu without activating the root account or adding yourself to the cupsys group?
[11:21] <estan> seems kind of not userfriendly :/
[11:22] <estan> or sorry, i didn't mean adding yourself to cupsys group, but adding the cupsys user to the shadow group..
[11:22] <estan> which is also bad, as it will remove any password checking from 127.0.0.1:631.
[11:23] <estan> or wait, no it won't. but still, kind of a hazzle for just adding a printer..
[11:24] <mehrab> eagles0513875: but I didn't have problems before yesterday update, and I should say before that time I was using OOo 3.0
[11:25] <estan> especially as there seems to be no user/group configuration in systemsettings, or?
[11:25] <M-a-r-k> Hi. I keep getting system messages about dcop. That's a KDE thing, right?
[11:26] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: that's used by kde3, yes
[11:27] <M-a-r-k> I don't have any kde apps or libraries installed, Mamarok
[11:27] <M-a-r-k> Or do I?
[11:27] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: Gnome uses it too AFAIK
[11:27] <M-a-r-k> Hmm
[11:27] <Mamarok> hm, wrong answer, Gnome uses dbus
[11:28] <M-a-r-k> Yeah.  I thought that was the case
[11:28] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: indeed, you probably have a library somewhere that calls it, what's the exact message?
[11:28] <eagles0513875> Mamarok i fixed my issue
[11:28] <eagles0513875> :)
[11:28] <M-a-r-k> The message I keep getting is
[11:28] <M-a-r-k>  sh:
[11:28] <M-a-r-k> dcop: not found
[11:29] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: what was it?
[11:29] <M-a-r-k> Which makes me wonder what could be looking for it Mama
[11:29] <eagles0513875> Mamarok i needed to mount it on the machine using smbmount
[11:29] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: hm, so probably some script that calls it, as it can be anything
[11:29] <M-a-r-k> Is there a way to track said script down?
[11:30] <koperton> hey guys i can't get kde4's bar trasparent
[11:30] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: do you have ack-grep installed?
[11:30] <M-a-r-k> Erm. Hang on
[11:30] <Mamarok> you could use it to track down dcop
[11:30] <koperton> i have installed naked theme but i get always black bar
[11:31] <geiseri> can anyone tell me what is the most basic set of packages to get kde 4s desktop and nothing else?
[11:31] <koperton> kubuntu-desktop i think is that geiseri
[11:31]  * geiseri is trying to install kubuntu on 512mb
[11:31] <M-a-r-k> I do now, Mamarok
[11:31] <yunky> ho to use emerald
[11:31] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: try ack-grep dcop
[11:32] <eagles0513875> geiseri kde-core that pkg only
[11:32] <geiseri> koperton: i tried that one and it installed too much stuff
[11:32] <M-a-r-k> Tryinhg
[11:32] <geiseri> eagles0513875: will that give me kwin, and the workspace?
[11:32] <eagles0513875> geiseri you wanting to strip down your machine to command line then build it up from the ground up
[11:32] <eagles0513875> geiseri that will give u kde with nothing installed on it
[11:32] <geiseri> eagles0513875: that is what im doing, i started with debootstrap
[11:32] <Mamarok> M-a-r-k: in your script folder
[11:32] <eagles0513875> then install what ever you want on it
[11:32] <koperton> geiseri: i don't know then... but i think with 512 mega you can run kde4 without problem
[11:33] <M-a-r-k> I did it in a terminal
[11:33] <eagles0513875> geiseri easier way you could have done that apt-get purge kde* that woudl purge all default kde form default kubuntu install and programs wiht it
[11:33] <eagles0513875> then sudo apt-get install kde-core
[11:33]  * Mamarok is afk
[11:33] <M-a-r-k> It seems to be finding a lot of instances
[11:33] <geiseri> eagles0513875: is that kde-core kde 3 or 4?
[11:33] <geiseri> im on hardy
[11:34] <eagles0513875> kde-core is for 4
[11:34] <geiseri> cool
[11:34] <eagles0513875> that i think would strip down everything kde related if sudo apt-get purge kde* is done
[11:34] <eagles0513875> kde 3 and 4 if you have both installed
[11:35] <geiseri> hmm.. im looking at kde-core now, and it looks like its kde3 on hardy
[11:35] <kevin_> Hello all, I have just downloaded adobe flash player 10.0.12.36. Can some one tell me how to open this?
[11:35] <geiseri> i dont have a lot of space so i was gunning to have only kde4 so i could use the kisok stuff in KDE
[11:35] <M-a-r-k> I think I've found the culprits
[11:35] <eagles0513875> geiseri sometimes total reinstall might be necessary
[11:35] <M-a-r-k> Thanks Mamarok
[11:35] <eagles0513875> geiseri whats you probably dont have is the intrepid repos
[11:36] <geiseri> eagles0513875: well i am started from a debootstrap script, so i can reinstall at a blink
[11:36] <M-a-r-k> Wherever you are ;)
[11:36] <geiseri> eagles0513875: can i do that and still get lts?  or is lts only for kde3 still?
[11:36] <geiseri> that is the only reason im using hardy right now
[11:36] <eagles0513875> geiseri gotcha never done that usually start wiht default kubuntu and strip it back to command line then install the kde-core that way i have the intrepid repos
[11:36] <eagles0513875> not sure how that would work
[11:37] <geiseri> eagles0513875: i can go that route easy enough, i have tons of space on the build system
[11:37] <geiseri> its the target that i only have 512
[11:37] <eagles0513875> could u live with kde 3 instead of for though
[11:37] <Mamarok> geiseri: if you want LTS support stay with hardy
[11:37] <eagles0513875> agreed
[11:38] <geiseri> eagles0513875: i could if i had to, but my custom app is qt4 based
[11:38] <geiseri> eagles0513875: id really like kde4, but i can live with 3 if that mean lts
[11:38] <eagles0513875> you should be able to install the necessary qt4 stuff on kde3
[11:38] <Mamarok> geiseri: you can run a Qt4 app in KDE3, just need the library
[11:38] <geiseri> yeah but it looks so much prettier on KDE 4 ;)
[11:39] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:39] <geiseri> but yeah, i can live with 3 if i must
[11:39] <eagles0513875> geiseri test out what i told you on ur test machine and let me know what you think
[11:39] <geiseri> eagles0513875: i will, thanks
[11:40] <eagles0513875> geiseri no problem
[11:40] <eagles0513875> im thinking of doing that again now that i know what my issue wiht me not being able ot play music was
[11:40] <geiseri> eagles0513875: im doing a skunkworks project for work... they want to use xfce, but i am betting kde is not much bigger and will get us more stuff
[11:40]  * geiseri thinks kio and kiosk mode are the killers there
[11:41] <eagles0513875> geiseri if u start with kde-core its super lightweight and fast
[11:41] <eagles0513875> !info apt-build | geiseri
[11:41] <eagles0513875> that would also come in handy for optimizing performance of the whole install
[11:41] <geiseri> eagles0513875: well im on a via 500mhz, so there is not much to optimize compiler wise
[11:42] <eagles0513875> but if the whole install is sluggish now depending on how strong the optimization is u will notice a performance gain
[11:42] <geiseri> but i do notice kde4 is more responsive than 3 at work on my workstation
[11:42] <eagles0513875> i noticed performance gain on bootup and program start up
[11:42] <geiseri> well im hacking udev rules to speed up boot time
[11:42]  * geiseri notes udev takes up 75% of the boot time on his via system
[11:43] <eagles0513875> im not that advanced and lack the programming knowledge
[11:43] <geiseri> and its all running modprobe
[11:43] <eagles0513875> im wanting to recompile kernel and take out intel stuff which isnt part of my chipset as well as nvidia
[11:43] <geiseri> i have boot time down to 12 seconds on a 1.6ghz atom
[11:43] <eagles0513875> try apt-build on top of what ur doing
[11:43] <geiseri> eagles0513875: i will
[11:43] <eagles0513875> geiseri im gonna pm ya we are offtopic
[11:44] <geiseri> okay
[11:45] <AltinT> hey
[11:45] <AltinT> my hotkeys won't work (not even the application launcher) ... any ideas how to fix this?
[11:46] <isome> hi, i am using kbuntu 8.10, and firefox is not rendering icons correctly
[11:46] <isome> can any body help?
[11:52] <isome> hey idea how to fix firefox icons?
[11:58] <Mamarok> isome: what do you mean with "not rendering correctly"?
[12:02] <kevin_> can anyone tell me how to install flash player plugins. I have it downloaded but do not know how to execute it.
[12:09] <vge> ./filename should start the installer if i rememer correctly
[12:11] <estan> hm. i don't get how i can add a printer in kubuntu without activating my root account (setting a password for it), is it possible?
[12:11] <eagles0513875> !info kde4
[12:11] <eagles0513875> !info kde 4
[12:11] <eagles0513875> !kde
[12:12] <eagles0513875> !kde | geiseri
[12:12] <estan> because the cups web interface will ask for a login, and i can't use the root login since it's disabled.
[12:12] <geiseri> ubottu: yes, but im not building kde now am i ;)
[12:12] <estan> and the cups daemon is running as the root user..
[12:13] <geiseri> haha
[12:13]  * geiseri is fooled a bot
[12:13] <ActionParsnip2> estan: you access it via web interface
[12:16] <estan> ActionParsnip2: see what i wrote, the web interface will ask for a login/password, and i don't want to activate my root account.
[12:16] <eagles0513875> estan its your normal login i have been able to do it with on hardy
[12:16] <Psi-Jack> OKay. Does anyone know how I could possibly allow an OpenGL game, like SL, to work without flickering while KDE's composting?
[12:17] <eagles0513875> estan login wihtout admin privs then there is a button on cups interface that if it needs admin privs click that button and it will give them to you
[12:17] <ActionParsnip2> estan: read post 9: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=35567
[12:18] <isome> Hi Mamarok, i mean tabs don't display prorely when mutliple tabs are open
[12:19] <Mamarok> isome: could you past a screenshot somewhere?
[12:20] <pequatre> hi. i'm using kubuntu intrepid. since 1 or 2 days ago knetworkmanager won't start (no icon in the icon box). so i can't connect to the internet. is there a workaround ? i'm using KDE 4.x (the latest one). thanks.
[12:20] <estan> ah duh. thanks eagles0513875 and Ac.
[12:20] <estan> ActionParsnip2.
[12:22] <eagles0513875> estan no problems bro
[12:22] <ActionParsnip2> eagles0513875: HI5!
[12:23] <estan> i was so sure i would need to use the root account, using my own worked out of the box. nothing special needed.
[12:23] <estan> not very often i configure printer.
[12:24] <isome> where can i send it?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip2> estan: you dont need the root account, thats why its disabled by default
[12:24] <ActionParsnip2> estan: improves security
[12:24] <estan> yea.
[12:29] <isome> hi Mamarok, can you accept the screen snapshot?
[12:29] <jussi01> isome: imagebin.ca
[12:30] <isome> ok thanks
[12:31] <isome> ok you can view it at, http://imagebin.ca/view/OVrKOpjQ.html
[12:35] <Mamarok> isome: that indeed looks bad :(
[12:35]  * Mamarok starts her FF to check
[12:37] <isome> starts her FF to check??
[12:38] <Mamarok> isome: I was looking at my FF to check the difference, don't use it currently :)
[12:39] <Mamarok> isome: is it only in FF you have these glitches? then it's probably your theme
[12:39] <myeggo> hello, i am trying to install kubuntu 8.10 in one dell optiplex with scsi device
[12:40] <myeggo> but it does not detect the harddisk
[12:40] <myeggo> or at least when i come to step 4 (partition creatin) i dont see nothing in there
[12:40] <myeggo> must i run the installation with a special parameter to install scsi drivers or something?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip2> !scsi
[12:41] <ActionParsnip2> myeggo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236283
[12:41] <myeggo> okay thanks
[12:42] <ActionParsnip2> myeggo: basically you're gonna have to get the card working in live environment and install
[12:42] <ActionParsnip2> myeggo: you may need to use a non scsi disk for /boot
[12:43] <dr_willis> Yep. will depend on th exact scsi card/chipset i imageine..
[12:44] <myeggo> suse 9 detects it
[12:44] <myeggo> but 10.3 and higher not
[12:45] <isome> well seems like it's was really a theme problem, thanks
[12:46] <Mamarok> isome: you're welcome :)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip2> myeggo: install sus9 and upgrade it to 10.3
[12:53] <edualex> good morning... I'm a newbie in linux and I`m using the kubuntu 8.10. I have installed the google earth (4.3 and 4.2 versions) but in all of versions the maps images just don`t appear
[12:54] <dr_willis> how did you install them? from google? or via medbuntu?
[12:54] <dr_willis> You do have your full 3d drivers installed?
[12:54] <edualex> from google
[12:55] <dr_willis> run it from a terminal, look for error messages..  If you are using nvidia/ati - you proberly need to get the 3d drivers going first
[12:55] <edualex> I guess yes, Dr. willis, but I don`t know for sure
[12:56] <dr_willis> check with the 'sudo jockey-qt' command. (or was it jockey-kde)
[12:56] <edualex> how I do this? run from a terminal?
[12:56] <dr_willis> !info jockey-kde
[12:56] <dr_willis> yes.. a terminal will show erroe messages..
[12:56] <jussi01> *cough* kdesudo
[12:56] <dr_willis> command is proberly google<tab>
[12:56] <edualex> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-edualex" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[12:56] <edualex> Error: "/tmp/kde-edualex" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[13:01] <drdozer> where can I set up associations between files and icons?
[13:01] <edualex> well... with the sudo jockey-kde command this was the message
[13:19] <cze> hi all, I upgraded to KDE 4.2 beta now kwin crashes after I login. Any ideas?
[13:20] <ragsagar_> what i should do to mount the drives by default
[13:20] <ragsagar_> now i have to give password after booting to open the drive
[13:21] <cze> ragsagar i dont have solution for you, but is that drive ntfs?
[13:25] <rkelley> hi
[13:26] <PSiL0> any program that can load an mds file to burn a dvd image?
[13:28] <dr_willis> PSiL0,  ive heard k3b can . and tehre are tools that can mount them to access the files..
[13:28] <dr_willis> dont expect any game copy protection to survive however
[13:28] <PSiL0> I am using k3b
[13:29] <dr_willis> check  the k3b homepage/faq perhaps
[13:29] <PSiL0> dr_willis: nada
[13:30] <PSiL0> http://nixforums.org/about73756.html
[13:31] <PSiL0> hmmm, this is troubling since when I create dvd9 backups, I need the mdf/mds file to let the burner know of the 4.35gig break
[13:31] <PSiL0> I mean, the layer break
[13:31] <PSiL0> dr_willis: not for games :)
[13:32] <PSiL0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=832316
[13:32] <PSiL0> I guess I'll have to reboot into windoze and use imgburn
[13:33] <dr_willis> I just use k9copy copy to  set my videos to fit on 4gb disks
[13:33] <dr_willis> good luck
[13:49] <maliks> how do i install kde3 on kubuntu 8.10
[13:49] <maliks> ?
[13:51] <Guest99837> Hi all I just completed a install of Kubuntu 8.10 on a Windows machine to dual boot. My problem is that Windows will not boot. Only Kunbuntu. Can any one help?
[13:52] <maliks> Guest99837: did u install win first or linux?
[13:53] <maliks> anyways check grub howto
[13:53] <Guest99837> maliks: Windows was already installed. I just shrunk the partition after defrag to make room for kunbuntu
[13:54] <monika__> hi
[13:55] <monika__> how can i change the frequenz from my monitor from 85hz to 60hz in kubuntu8.10?
[13:57] <maliks> ubot! Guest99837
[14:00] <Guest99837> ubot! grub howto
[14:01] <Guest99837> ubot!
[14:02] <Guest99837> ubot!: Grub how to
[14:02] <AltinT> ﻿hello, is it possible to have my Windows shared folder running even when I'm running ubuntu?
[14:02] <AltinT> kubuntu*
[14:02] <Guest99837>  ubot! Guest99837
[14:02] <Guest99837> [08:58] <-- maliks
[14:03] <Guest99837> ubot!
[14:03] <bazhang> !grub > Guest99837
[14:09] <DawnLight> hey. i don't have an audible beep in yukuake although i do have one in konsole. help?
[14:19] <cool> hi all ... I have a problem with using amarok
[14:19] <cool> mtp device is not getting detected
[14:19] <cool> works fine on FC 10 (i checked at a friend's laptop)
[14:20] <cool> amarok2, on kubuntu 8.10 is what  Ihave
[14:20] <runpain2> I'm wanting GDesklets to run at login but i cant find Sessions -> Startup Programs
[14:22] <runpain2> i am using Kubuntu 8.04 i have System> settings control >sessions but no startup menu
[14:23] <g_> anyone there?
[14:25] <runpain2> I'm wanting GDesklets > Daily Quotes to run at login
[14:25] <Kovert> how do i set up Konversation to auto identify?
[14:28] <genii> Kovert: Server List ..Edit ...Server Name...Edit..
[14:28] <Kovert> yes but when I get to the names I dont know how to set it to auto uidentify
[14:29] <Kovert> F8 in conversation
[14:29] <Kovert> sorry konversation
[14:30] <genii> Kovert: As in this pic http://i33.tinypic.com/2qa4tiu.png
[14:34] <anderson> hi
[14:34] <Kovert> genii: then what is the password option under F8
[14:38] <Kovert> genii: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/identity.html
[14:39] <nuvias> hey I've got a problem with my kubuntu. after update from 8.04 to 8.10 my (LCD) monitor flashes. Why?
[14:40] <Kovert> any one have any experiance with battery issues on net b ooks
[14:40] <Kovert> my battery isnt seen on my S10 idceapaD
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:44] <genii> Kovert: The f8 password entry is for identifying to a particular service on the irc like nickserv. But it is better to put the password in for the entire site, which is in the window I showed.
[14:44]  * genii hands BluesKaj a lovely Kubuntu mug of coffee
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ahhh...more caffeine ..thx genii :)
[14:45] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime... it's a cold morning after all
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yup, plugged in the car block heater for a couple hrs ...was down to -15C here last night
[14:47] <genii> Brrr
[14:47] <Kovert> genii: thank you
[14:47] <genii> Kovert: You're welcome
[14:48] <nuvias> hey I've got a problem with my kubuntu. after update from 8.04 to 8.10 my (LCD) monitor flashes. Why?
[14:53] <lumm> its just here that plasma takes sometimes soo much cpu?
[14:53] <lumm> it starting to get worst if uure already on 2.3 weeks uptime
[14:53] <lumm> total laggy :(
[14:57] <eagles0513875> hey guys where can i get jaunty to help test it out and report bugs
[14:57] <genii> eagles0513875: Visit #ubuntu+1 :)
[14:58] <eagles0513875> genii its dead in there
[14:59] <genii> eagles0513875: The /topic there should probably show you where to d/l Jaunty however
[14:59] <nuvias> hey is anybody there?
[14:59] <eagles0513875> genii it doesnt
[15:00] <nuvias> I have a problem with kubuntu 8.10: after update from 8.04 my monitor flashes... why?
[15:01] <genii> eagles0513875: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/
[15:02] <eagles0513875> just gave it to me lol
[15:10] <pronoy> how do i install adobe reader on kubuntu 8.10...okular is not good a pdf viewer
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !adobe
[15:10] <starenka> Hi i quit using compiz and now all my shortcuts using windows/super key won't work. Tried to redifine them again in kcontrol, but it turned up useless. Any clues? KDE 3.5x
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !info adobe
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !info acrobat
[15:10] <eagles0513875> !pdf
[15:11] <eagles0513875> !pdf | pronoy
[15:11] <pronoy> !adobe reader
[15:11] <pronoy> what does free download but closed source mean ?
[15:11] <starenka> !acroread | pronoy
[15:12] <starenka> darnit
[15:12] <Pici> !fishing
[15:12] <eagles0513875> Pici thats my fault
[15:15] <pronoy_> so again...how do install abobe reader on 8.10 kde ?
[15:17] <starenka> pronoy i have it on my machine - the package is acroread... lemme paste my repos
[15:18] <pronoy__> starenka: is this the version ? http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
[15:19] <starenka> pronoy__:  dunno, its on my other comp tho, lemme check
[15:19] <pronoy__> starenka: k
[15:19] <starenka> pronoy__: it's adobe reader 8
[15:19] <eagles0513875> !pastebin | starenka
[15:19] <eagles0513875> past them there starenka
[15:20] <pronoy__> starenka: ok...download 8.1.3 here :D http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
[15:20] <starenka> i know how to post dumps, m8
[15:20] <lumm> is there no way todo screenshots on kde4 =
[15:20] <lumm> ?
[15:20] <lumm> worked on 3 with the print key on my keyboard.
[15:21] <starenka> pronoy__: i don't really care, i use it seldom... maybe the package pops up in apt-get install cuz its already installed... don't have any special repo activated
[15:21] <pronoy__> starenka: i found the repo....medibuntu repo
[15:21] <pronoy__> lumm: ksnapshot
[15:21] <starenka> oh. nothing special i mean, nothing not-canonical
[15:22] <pronoy__> lumm: alt+f2> ksnapshot
[15:22] <starenka> any hints for a player which can play video and stream audio in mp3 (f.e i got english video and i want to play dubbed mp3 instead)
[15:23] <starenka> lumm: just assign printscr to ksnapshot.., no?
[15:28] <pronoy__> hey this is wierd the pdf still seem to be opening in okular rather than acrobat reader !!
[15:29] <pronoy__> nevermind...fixed
[15:46] <Guiri> Hi. How can I edit my sessions? I'm installed Openbox on Kubuntu and want to make conky and pypanel load with my openbox session. Thanks.
[15:49] <rodes> hi
[15:54] <Guiri> anybody?
[16:13] <ariel_> hello! I made my taskbar icons dissapear, can anybody help me?
[16:19] <michael__> when are they going to make linux compatible with winmodems
[16:20] <g_> Hey is the beta 2 up for release today?
[16:20] <g_> KDE 4.2?
[16:21] <michael__> the kde 4.1 and up can cait!! i do not like the cachew up in the upper right corner of the screen
[16:21] <genii> michael__: When Microsoft surrenders the internal proprietary code upon which they rely. So probably not for a while
[16:22] <g_> is it worth upgrading to the kde 4.2?
[16:22] <domicile> bjr a tous
[16:22] <genii> michael__: Although some of them have been made to work
[16:22] <michael__> its dumb they won't release the source for a stupid very slow device!!! such as a modem!!
[16:23] <michael__> and to me its ancient techonology
[16:23] <michael__> but yet they have drivers for every eithernet card out there!!!
[16:24] <eagles0513875> michael__ its not a winmodem is it
[16:24] <g_> No news on the KDE 4.2 beta 2?
[16:24] <Zehava> How can I get java plugin to work with firefox please?
[16:24] <genii> michael__: No, you are not understanding... it is not the source in the modem. The modems actually have less and less in them, and actually borrow the code which is running in the Windows to function. That is why they are so problemmatic in other oerating systems
[16:24] <eagles0513875> g_ ask in #kde
[16:24] <g_> Does anyone know if its worth it to upgrade to the KDE 4.2 beta 2 today?
[16:25] <michael__> everyone needs to toss the modems anyway. and go ethernet style.
[16:26] <michael__> show companies that modems are no longer needed.
[16:27] <michael__> only reason i have linux i have ethernet out here
[16:28] <michael__> linuxant.com why winmodems don't work worth the darn.!!
[16:28] <eric99> anyone here run BOINC?
[16:29] <eagles0513875> i have on linux but this machine is windows right now
[16:29] <m1dn1ght> Hi guys.  Using Kubuntu Intrepid.  When I try and add new widgets it gives me a short list of ones I can add.  When I go to "Install new widgets" at the bottom and say download from internet the search box it gives me doesn't return any results
[16:29] <lumm> its not ready yet m1dn1ght
[16:30] <m1dn1ght> lumm: Ah - well that would make sense then
[16:30] <eagles0513875> !info boinc | eric99
[16:30] <fale> kde4.2b2 released :)
[16:30] <eagles0513875> !boinc | eric99
[16:30] <michael__> genii winmodems do not rely on windows. its the stupid companies refuse to release the source!!!
[16:30] <michael__> Due to intellectual-property/patent issues beyond our control, the source code of some components like modem modulations cannot be released; however, we have attempted to reduce the inconvenience of binary-only modules by separating the proprietary code from the operating-system specific code. The latter is provided in source form, allowing users to install the drivers under any supported version of the Linux kernel.
[16:30] <m1dn1ght> Can anyone tell me then how I can install a mail checker/notifier of some kind please?
[16:31] <michael__> that came from linuxant.com
[16:31] <eagles0513875> michael__ they designed for windows
[16:31] <Zehava> How can I get firefox java plugin to work with kubuntu please
[16:31] <michael__> they are slower then grandma going to the restroom
[16:32] <eagles0513875> !ot | michael__
[16:33] <michael__> don't know all the rules, since going linux crazy.
[16:34] <genii> michael__: Do you know exact make and model of your winmodem?
[16:35] <michael__> it would not matter genii. either linux preconfigures it for me or i toss it.
[16:36] <michael__> its nice with kubuntu and ubuntu it configures most devices for you.
[16:36] <genii> michael__: Tossing is better for those pieces of crap anyhow
[16:36] <michael__> !!!
[16:37] <michael__> that what they are, pieces of crap for the landfill ehheheeh.
[16:37] <genii> michael__: Pretty much.
[16:37] <michael__> but seems like no matter what else i throw at linux usb device, all of them work.
[16:37] <genii> michael__: You *MAY* be able to get it working past the 14.4 speed the linuxant drivers provide if you use the Dell linux driver for ubuntu
[16:38] <michael__> genii you know i am not worried about it, after being on dsl for the past 4 years.
[16:38] <michael__> the modem can sit there in my pc and do nothing, i will never hook no telephone wire to it.
[16:39] <michael__> except a ethernet cable heheeh.
[16:39] <genii> michael__: If you use dsl for nternet, the linuxant driver is still useful then for faxing, etc
[16:39] <michael__> its been 20 years  since i faxed something
[16:40] <michael__> if you can't send it email style through the internet, forget it.
[16:40] <michael__> thats another goody they can toss fax machines.
[16:41] <eagles0513875> michale offtopic bro keep ur ranting to offtopic plz this is support channel
[16:42] <michael__> actually someone can be some help here.
[16:42] <michael__> i tried kubuntu 8.1 the only thing i don't like about it, it will not keep my screen resolution settings
[16:43] <michael__> when i go to restart it, it defaults back to 1024,768
[16:43] <andreas_> hi
[16:43] <eagles0513875> !hi | andreas_
[16:43] <michael__> that is one reason i went back to kubuntu 8.04 once i set it to 800x600 85hz it saves it
[16:44] <andreas_> thanx
[16:44] <andreas_> my first 64Bit Kubuntu runs
[16:44] <andreas_> :-)
[16:45] <andreas_> and i have nothing in my brain
[16:45] <andreas_> im helpless
[16:46] <eagles0513875> !enter | andreas_
[16:47] <michael__> thank you whoever invented kubuntu and ubuntu as debian based linux, it really not hard to use
[16:48] <eagles0513875> did u fix it mich
[16:52] <genii> michael__: At any rate, the Dell winmodem driver for ubuntu is found at http://linux.dell.com/files/ubuntu/hardy/modem-drivers/hsf/hsfmodem_7.68.00.09oem_i386.deb  and works with all Conexant types. If yours is not Conexant , your mileage may vary
[16:55] <genii> michael__: Please do not private message me, I assist in public channel only. As the directory path of the download shows, this is for hsf modems.
[16:56] <michael__> excuse me, i didn't know we had alot unpolite  people on here.
[16:57] <genii> michael__: The Rockwell modems generally use internally a Conexant chipset, so this driver is more than likely to work.
[16:57] <farapa> hi guys
[16:57] <farapa> i have kubuntu intrepid. guidance power manager does not show cpu frequency. is there any other program for power management to try? Solid also says that it uses hal-power
[16:58] <michael__> i will give it a try if not like i said GENII, i don't really care!! i used linux this long without a stupid modem
[16:58] <michael__> been using ethernet for the past 5 years
[16:58] <michael__> and all the modems gradually been seeing the trash can heheeh.
[16:59] <desu> farapa: try doing a `cat /proc/cpuinfo'. that should show you the frequency
[16:59] <genii> michael__: Then toss it, or not, as you prefer. Otherwise why come here and complain about it if's not something that matters to you
[16:59] <farapa> desu: thanks. just a min
[17:01] <farapa> desu: ok the problem is not to see cpu freq. the problem is that i suspect that power management does not work correctly, because my laptop some times closes unexpectedly, and i suppose that is overheating or something, and i supposed that power management has problem since i dont see cpufreq. anyway the question is how i m sure powermanagent works, and if i have other alternatives to use
[17:02] <robotboy_> how do you install abobe flash player?
[17:02] <michael> the most easiset wasy robotboy.
[17:02] <desu> farapa: can you try doing a `sudo grep kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst' and paste the output to rafb.net/paste?
[17:02] <bazhang> michael, ??
[17:02] <michael> copy  the flashlib.so directly to the plugins if you are using firefox
[17:02] <michael> it would be firefox/plugins
[17:03] <robotboy_> yes
[17:03] <Tm_T> michael: no
[17:03] <nicola> Hi
[17:03] <desu> there's a package available in the repositories
[17:03] <robotboy_> hi
[17:03] <michael> as with anyone using opera don't use that browser it doesn't support flash 10
[17:03] <bazhang> that is not the recommended method
[17:03] <Tm_T> !flash | robotboy_
[17:03] <desu> !gnash
[17:03] <Tm_T> michael: I might disagree you there
[17:03] <grendal_prime> ok this is crazy, i need to be able to use sftp in quanta.  Im running ubuntu but quanta is a kde application...what is the mininmum reqs for the kio slave to function?
[17:03] <michael> because the flash is broken with ubunu
[17:04] <robotboy_> ok
[17:04] <Tm_T> michael: is not
[17:04] <bazhang> michael, that is simply not true
[17:04] <farapa> desu: i ll do
[17:04] <Mamarok> michael: running opera 9.6 here, with flash working quite well
[17:04] <ikonia> michael: flash is not broken in ubuntu, adobe has taken down the package
[17:04] <michael> firefox has won the war. opera loses
[17:04] <bazhang> !ot > michael
[17:04] <nicola> I'm tring to install pkg-kde-tools from "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" but there is a bug
[17:05] <jussi01> nicola: whats the errror message?
[17:05] <nicola> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/303468
[17:05] <Tm_T> michael: FYI: this is not a place fore oneman wars
[17:05] <nicola> do you know any workaround?
[17:05] <robotboy_> that website did not work
[17:05] <robotboy_> no
[17:06] <robotboy_> whant to see my website
[17:06] <robotboy_> http://jarod.dime-software.co.uk
[17:06] <Pici> robotboy_: This is a support channel, please do not advertise  here.
[17:06] <bazhang> robotboy_, you want to install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:06] <robotboy_> yes
[17:07] <farapa> desu: http://rafb.net/p/wU9JTX48.html
[17:07] <nicola> This is the error message:
[17:07] <robotboy_>  i am not bothed about that any more
[17:07] <desu> hmm.... doesn't seem to be an acpi issue...
[17:08] <robotboy_> whats acpi
[17:08] <nicola> trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/findfiles', which is also in package kdesdk-scripts
[17:08] <robotboy_> oh
[17:08] <desu> !acpi
[17:08] <desu> hmm...
[17:08] <desu> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI
[17:08] <farapa> anyway ,. thanks for the effort desu
[17:09] <desu> farapa: can i know the brand and the model number of your laptop?
[17:09] <farapa> desu: hp compaq nx9020
[17:10] <robotboy_> i love computers
[17:11] <robotboy_> hello
[17:11] <ikonia> robotboy_: stop now please.
[17:11] <ikonia> robotboy_: this is a support channel only
[17:11] <robotboy_> i will go of this then
[17:13] <farapa> thanks
[17:13] <michael__> anyone know how to make the wired ethernet to stay connected when restarting kubuntu
[17:13] <farapa> see u
[17:13] <ikonia> michael__: you can't be connected without an OS
[17:14] <robotboy_> no i don't think that is possble
[17:14] <alonea> how do I get linux to set the clock with local time instead of utc so it doesn't screw up my windows?
[17:14] <ikonia> michael__: the OS controls your network, so if you reboot/restart it disconnects
[17:14] <robotboy_> oh it can work
[17:14] <nicola> ok, I found a solution. I first removed kdesdk-scripts with "dpkg -r".
[17:14] <michael__> well with kubuntu 7.04 it stayed connected soon as i started kubuntu
[17:14] <michael__> after that version, everything just went their own seperate way.
[17:15] <pteague_work> anybody know when the virtual box kernels will get updated to current ubuntu kernel?
[17:15] <michael__> there has to be solution for this problem.
[17:15] <alonea> how do I get linux to set the clock with local time instead of utc so it doesn't screw up my windows?
[17:15] <ikonia> michael__: please be specific saying "everything went it's own way makes nosense"
[17:15] <eagles0513875> ikonia got my problem sloved bout mp3's not playing
[17:16] <ikonia> michael__: other #kubuntu versions will connect automaically on boot if you have dhcp setup on that nic and a dhcp server listening on the network, OR if you have a working static IP config
[17:16] <michael__> why does  everyone have to, "YOU MUST BE SPECIFIC"
[17:16] <michael__> i say it the way it is
[17:16] <robotboy_> anybody know how to install webmin
[17:16] <robotboy_> with sudo
[17:16] <pteague_work> alonea: i thought there was a way during the install process to select that the clock should be based on local time
[17:16] <robotboy_> ok
[17:17] <ikonia> michael__: your not saying it the way it is
[17:17] <ikonia> robotboy_: webmin is not packaged or supported by ubuntu any more
[17:17] <michael__> i used to like kubuntu 7.04
[17:17] <ikonia> michael__: to get help you need to be specific saying "it goes it's own way" means nothing
[17:17] <robotboy_> oh weh i forgot that
[17:17] <bazhang> !ebox > robotboy_
[17:18] <michael__> kubuntu 8.04 is nice but when going to kubuntu 8.10 it gets out of hand. like not saving screen resolution
[17:18] <alonea> pteague_work: I have no idea and I certainly am not going to reinstall to fix this. I don't remember seeing that option, but with kde4 I can't seem to find any of the options I used to could find on kde3
[17:18] <robotboy_> ok
[17:18] <ikonia> michael__: screen resolution issues can normally be resolved with xorg configuration/driver configuration, due to the later version 8.10 comes with later driver versions and not all cards work out of the box or at all
[17:19] <michael__> well i am all total auto piolet not manual
[17:19] <michael__> here ikonia
[17:19] <ikonia> michael__: then stick with kubuntu 8.04 unless you are certain your hardwae is supported out of the box
[17:20] <pteague_work> alonea: yeah, i'm wondering if there might be a way via ntp or some such
[17:20] <michael__> so til they get all those bugs out of kubuntu 8.1 i am using kubuntu 8.04 and its pretty much all AUTO PIOLET MODE.
[17:20] <ikonia> michael__: ok, great.
[17:20] <alonea> I saw a thing that said right click on clock and uncheck utc...but I dont see that anywhere on here.
[17:20] <michael__> except for the ethernet not staying connected when i restart kubuntu
[17:21] <ikonia> michael__: as I say, if you have the correct configuration on your card/network there is no reason why it won't connect on boot up
[17:21] <amerigo> !openoffice
[17:21] <michael__> sorry ikonia LIKE I SAID, i like it WHEN kubuntu is fully AUTO PILOT MODE not manual
[17:21] <alonea> !utc
[17:22] <ikonia> michael__: please stop using caps
[17:22] <michael__> please stopping this and that.
[17:22] <ikonia> michael__: sometimes you have to make a configuation change,
[17:22] <michael__> junk
[17:22] <ikonia> michael__: drop the attitude, if you want help, I'm helping
[17:22] <michael__> ikonia, you are not helping you giving more detail then just the basic file to make it work right.
[17:23] <ikonia> michael__: I'm not giving you any files
[17:23] <ikonia> michael__: I'm explaining that in some situations you have to make a change from the default configuration to make it compatible on your network
[17:23] <michael__> for now kubuntu 8.04 i like it because it keeping everything in AUTO PILOT
[17:23] <ikonia> michael__: it should work with minor changes or out of the box, but sometimes there are deeper faults
[17:23] <michael__> except for the network
[17:24] <ikonia> michael__: stop using caps, auto pilot is not a real thing, I'm assuming you mean the default settings when you set auto pilot
[17:24] <michael__> i think this channel is filled with some people that don't understand english.
[17:25] <alonea> anyone know how to get linux to do local instead of utc? I can't find the setting.
[17:25] <ikonia> michael__: we understand english perfectly,
[17:25] <bazhang> michael__, chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[17:25] <ikonia> michael__: hence why I'm asking you to be a little more specific so we can take it forward
[17:25] <michael__> ask a simple question and put in little funiness they all go crazy
[17:26] <ikonia> michael__: no, we can't understand the problem %100 when you don't make things clear
[17:26] <ikonia> michael__: hence again why I'm asking when you say auto pilot you mean the default settings from a default install yes/no ?
[17:26] <michael__> anyone might have a solution for this network thing, i tried going into it telling it to start when linux starts
[17:27] <michael__> but it just defaults right back to its stupid setting, manual connect
[17:27] <ikonia> michael__: if you give us the detail I've asked for we can hopefully work it through
[17:27] <bazhang> michael__, you are doing this with the gui? or the cli?
[17:27] <eagles0513875> michael__ listen to ikonia we want to help but your not answering any questions hes been asking
[17:28] <michael__> all i know when i installed kubuntu it has this network icon that starts with kubuntu. and i right click it and go with wired
[17:28] <bazhang> honestly michael__ you are not giving clear answers
[17:28] <michael__> because i am a windows user not some stupid linux users like you people are
[17:28] <bazhang> michael__, no need for that kind of talk
[17:28] <alonea> I solved my own problem..../etc/default/rcS
[17:29] <ikonia> michael__: people are tyring to help you - consider this a warning drop the attitude if you want help
[17:29] <alonea> why even bother helping people who wont help themselves?
[17:44] <master_> My baby moves my start button over to the far right.. How can I put it on the left again?
[17:49] <nicola> Hi, I've installed kde 4.2 beta1. But after login all the window are without the top bar. I've experienced problems with pkg-kde-tools installation.
[17:50] <JontheEchidna> nicola: ok, first could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install pkg-kde-tools" ?
[17:51] <nicola> I've resolved the problem with pkg-kde-tools
[17:51] <JontheEchidna> ok
[17:52] <nicola> but I have problems with windows
[17:52] <solifugus> nicola: that's great.. now can you work on the unified theory..
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> make sure everything is upgraded (sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) just to be safe
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> then you could run kwin --replace if everything's upgraded
[17:53] <JontheEchidna> which would bring back the window manager
[17:54] <nicola> The following packages have been kept back:  gwenview
[17:54] <nicola> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[17:54] <JontheEchidna> ok, you should be able to just run kwin --replace
[17:54] <nicola> this is the output from sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:58] <Black_Monkey> how do I change widget styles for kde3 apps in 8.10?
[18:00] <nicola> I've tried to kwin --replace
[18:00] <nicola> no way
[18:02] <nicola> now I'm using kde neon
[18:02] <eagles0513875> nicola are you on 4.2
[18:02] <nicola> the nightly build
[18:02] <eagles0513875> kool
[18:03] <nicola> I've upgraded to 4.2 but I can't use it
[18:03] <nicola> I've logged
[18:03] <nicola> but I can't switch between windows
[18:06] <mellhen> hello@all!  are there packages for KDE4.2 Beta2 available?
[18:07] <yurimxpxman> I just upgraded to the latest kubuntu, and the volume keys change the PCM instead of the master volume.. any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> yurimxpxman: yup, upgrade to KDE 4.1.3
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> (default kubuntu install is 4.1.2
[18:08]  * JontheEchidna grabs install instructions
[18:08] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.3
[18:09] <yurimxpxman> JontheEchidna: cool, gonna try that now
[18:10] <yurimxpxman> JontheEchidna: actually, I just realised I'm already on 4.1.3
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> oh, really?
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> that bug was supposed to be fixed in 4.1.3...
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[18:10] <hyper_ch> huhu
[18:10] <hyper_ch> hi JontheEchidna
[18:10] <JontheEchidna> hi
[18:10] <yurimxpxman> JontheEchidna: yeah, cause I upgraded from 8.04 with the unsupported updates enabled, I guess
[18:11] <yurimxpxman> JontheEchidna: but, yeah, still changes the PCM volume
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> hmmmmm
[18:11] <jco> hi, is anyone having problems since a few weeks with knetworkmanager on iwl wireless cards? I read on google many had problems but can't understand if/how issues have been solved
[18:11] <JontheEchidna> you could try changing the main kmix channel to front
[18:11] <jco> jco: (8.04, forgot to mention)
[18:12] <yurimxpxman> JontheEchidna: perfect! I didn't realise that option was there :-)
[18:13] <nicola> I've found the problem
[18:14] <nicola> kwin can't start
[18:14] <bazhang> nicola, what error are you getting?
[18:15] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: thx for providing repos for kde 4.2 :)
[18:15] <nicola> KDecorationPlugin
[18:16] <nicola> ::loadPlugin
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> hyper_ch: you're welcome
[18:16] <JontheEchidna> btw I think we should have beta2 packages ready tomorrow for Intrepid
[18:16] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: did you sort out the kmail / jots bug there?
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> hyper_ch: uh, dunno
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> hyper_ch: in jaunty, yes
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> the intrepid packages should pick up the fix in beta2
[18:18] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: you use jaunty?
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> nope
[18:19] <olskolirc> im on Intrepid....how to I change the clock to 12 hour time instead of this military time please?
[18:19] <michael__> same problem to
[18:19] <michael__> but its nice. all days are in 24 hour format.
[18:19] <michael__> easier to understand.
[18:20] <olskolirc> i hate military time
[18:20] <hyper_ch> JontheEchidna: well, kmail and jots wanted to create/write the same file so I had to force install jots
[18:20] <olskolirc> if i knew where the config file was i could change it there
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> olskolirc: Sytem Settings -> regional and language -> dates and time tab
[18:20] <olskolirc> pH:MM:SS
[18:20] <olskolirc> thanks JontheEchidna
[18:21] <nicola> Sorry, I cannot past the complete error
[18:22] <nicola> I don't know how to cut and paste from console without a mouse!
[18:25] <LjL> !info gpm | nicola
[18:25] <LjL> !info pastebinit | nicola, also, you can use this, it's handy
[18:25] <mellhen> jonth; thx
[18:27] <olskolirc> I set my clock for 1:26 est...after midnight its going to read 13:00 isn't it?  I want it to stay stuck on 12 hour time but I don't see where I can edit it as: p:H
[18:28] <blitZ> kde4 is not ready for desktop
[18:28] <blitZ> cause it is too slow...
[18:29] <olskolirc> ohhhhh i got it
[18:30] <blitZ> switch to Gnome, it's easier and nicer !
[18:30] <rickest> olskolirc: also just so you know, 13 is an hour past noon, not an hour past midnight :)
[18:30] <jussi01> blitZ: you are not being helpful, please refrain
[18:30] <olskolirc> i know rickest
[18:30] <olskolirc> i found it i put a pH: in there
[18:30] <olskolirc> now I have 12 hour time
[18:31] <mellhen> please blitZ use GNOME ;)
[18:31] <olskolirc> instead of flipping it backwards every 12 hours
[18:31] <blitZ> i use fvwm ! ;)
[18:32] <eppan> what r u doing in here then?
[18:33] <blitZ> i want to use compiz with my fvwm desktop
[18:33] <blitZ> ...
[18:34] <blitZ> so i try kde 4, but this is too slow for me
[18:34] <blitZ> then i try gnome with compiz fusion, it's more usable
[18:35] <blitZ> but this is like using a elephant to cross the desert
[18:35] <JontheEchidna> probably your graphic driver's fault. It's nice and snappy with my old nvidia geforce 4
[18:36] <blitZ> perhaps
[18:36] <blitZ> i will see...
[18:37] <bazhang> kde4 seems superb here
[18:37] <DivineSpectrum> i've gotta a ques. kde 4.2 will be in kubuntu 8.10 or 9.04?
[18:38] <Tm_T> DivineSpectrum: in both, first thru extra repository and latter has it by default
[18:38] <mellhen> JontheEchi: which driver do you use for kde4. my one sucks in comparison with compiz (fusion)
[18:39] <DivineSpectrum> Tm_T: then in january kde 4.2 will update in kubuntu
[18:39] <Tm_T> DivineSpectrum: if you use extra repository yes
[18:39] <Tm_T> like neon
[18:39] <Tm_T> !neon | DivineSpectrum
[18:40] <DivineSpectrum> wow
[18:40] <DivineSpectrum> windows suck
[18:40] <DivineSpectrum> haaahaha
[18:40] <zorael> 4.2b2 hasn't been released yet though, right? Don't see any release notes on kde.org at least
[18:40] <elwood> hi DivineSpectrum
[18:40] <Tm_T> zorael: right
[18:40] <DivineSpectrum> hi elwood
[18:41] <zorael> Tm_T: Thanks
[18:41] <DivineSpectrum> hou r u?
[18:42] <elwood> !chat
[18:43] <simone> buonasera
[18:43] <jussi01> !it | simone
[18:43] <simone> ok
[18:44] <elwood> !pl
[18:44] <elwood> great.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> is there a room for kde4.2 support?
[18:47] <hyper_ch> this one here
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> awesome
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> ok in sight of new information...
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> I have kde4.2 nightly. My monitor powers off with screensaver and asks for a password when i wiggle the mouse. I hammer my password in and it does NOT go back to desktop. The only way is to restart the x server (ctrl + alt + backspace) and I can log in with the identical password. Has anyone seen this
[18:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip i would check every few hrs on those nightly things cuz seems they constantly releasing updates every few hrs
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> nightly?
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> !neon
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> yep neon
[18:51] <JontheEchidna> neon support goes in #amarok.neon
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> its kde
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> not amarok
[18:52] <hyper_ch> apachelogger also make nightly kde builds?
[18:52] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip run update upgrade and see if if finds any updates
[18:52] <Bou> amarok support neon right?
[18:52] <elwood> ActionParsnip: but same repository
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> JontheEchidna: will check it out
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: I even removed all screensavers to see if itd help
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> gonna try setting a screensaver, see if it helps
[19:03] <kuvenom> some one rus?
[19:03] <Pici> !ru | kuvenom
[19:03] <kuvenom> thx
[19:04] <bentob0x> was there some kind of recent update on Kubuntu 8.10 that has resolved a few plasma rendering issues?
[19:04] <webas> is it possible to make konqueror as a base instead of dolphin? in 4.1>
[19:04] <JontheEchidna> bentob0x: : what kind of issues
[19:04] <bentob0x> under thunderbird for instance
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> you mean making the panel go funky?
[19:05] <bentob0x> when I was replying to an email, the clock was blinking
[19:05] <bentob0x> yea
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> the latest nvidia beta drivers should fix that
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> though I dunno if they're in Ubuntu yet
[19:05] <bentob0x> gosh, why is nvidia so bad with kde4?
[19:06] <michael__> what channel do i go to for compiling
[19:08] <bazhang> michael__, what do you need to compile
[19:08] <michael__> pidgin package
[19:08] <bazhang> michael__, that is in the repos
[19:08] <michael__> 2.52 since ubunu only has 2.4
[19:08] <bazhang> michael__, any reason other than the higher number?
[19:08] <michael__> sorry i am new to linxu andkubuntu
[19:09] <michael__> i am the type wanting the latest programs for linux
[19:09] <bazhang> michael__, the problem with compiling is that it wont be updated with your package manager
[19:09] <michael__> thats why i like it when the latest is already compiled i just install it.
[19:09] <bazhang> michael__, and the apt-get system with ubuntu (and debian) is by far the most solid (ie dont want to break it)
[19:10] <michael__> even kubuntu 8.04 don't have the latest of open office
[19:10] <michael__> only 2.4
[19:10] <bazhang> michael__, you can get the ppa for that if you must, though it is not recommended
[19:10] <michael__> i have managed to install all the debians from the open office 3 debian packages.
[19:11] <michael__> and have a fully open office 3 working with debian
[19:11] <bazhang> michael__, you are using debian?
[19:11] <michael__> no kubuntu and ubuntu is based on debian
[19:11] <michael__> meaning that you can use debian packages with ubuntu
[19:11] <bazhang> but the packaging has some significant differences
[19:11] <bazhang> michael__, err no you cant
[19:12] <michael__> ok answer this question, i have manged to install open office 3
[19:12] <michael__> from  openoffice.org
[19:12] <michael__> for debian
[19:12] <michael__> dpkg -i *.deb
[19:12] <michael__> and all installed and the icons are there to.
[19:13] <michael__> so i know somewhat about ubuntu
[19:13] <bazhang> not a good idea
[19:13] <michael__> just the trouble is finding the latest debian packages.
[19:13] <michael__> not a good idea
[19:13] <michael__> open office 3 loads without trouble.
[19:14] <bazhang> well, for one thing you have gone into unsupported ground
[19:14] <bazhang> for another, it wont be updated and may well cause conflicts
[19:14] <michael__> i used apt-get to uninstal the 2.4 office
[19:15] <GodKilla-> hey all
[19:15] <michael__> open office 2.4 don't support docx extension so i must use open office 3
[19:15] <bazhang> michael__, apart from the higher number, is there a reason to install the newer packages?
[19:15] <GodKilla-> im having problems setting up the internet on a daily image installed 2 days ago
[19:15] <GodKilla-> knetworkmanager doesnt have any use at all
[19:15] <hyper_ch> michael__: docx shouldn't be supported at all
[19:15] <michael__> yes, new features not found in previous versions.
[19:16] <michael__> docx is a microsoft office 2007 format
[19:16] <GodKilla-> using ifconfig i can set it up so i can ping myself and my gateway, but everything else returns "network unreachable" or "unknown host"
[19:16] <hyper_ch> michael__: I know what it is
[19:16] <michael__> so when i open a 1.docx in open office 2.4 it does not reconize the extention.
[19:16] <genii> We just went through this about pidgin in #kubunt-offtopic    .... the 2.5 version is in the -backports and you don't need to compile anything
[19:16] <hyper_ch> michael__: and for that reason it shouldn't be used
[19:17] <michael__> open office 3 opens those types of files without trouble.
[19:17] <michael__> well i am searching the net, because kubuntu and ubuntu, their support groups are just scattered out everywhere.
[19:17] <genii> GodKilla-: Can you ping a host at large on the internet by IP only?
[19:18] <GodKilla-> no
[19:18] <GodKilla-> ive tried with google 66.102.9.104
[19:18] <michael__> so where i go to get this so called pidgin 2.5 debian package
[19:18] <bazhang> michael__, what you are attempting is neither supported nor recommended
[19:19] <michael__> unsupported it is
[19:19] <michael__> i managed to do some things that some people refuse to understand
[19:19] <michael__> is that ubuntu and kubuntu is based on the debian linux distro
[19:20] <Pici> michael__: We understand that.
[19:20] <Pici> !debian | michael__
[19:20] <michael__> if you used apt-get, the packages it download is *.deb
[19:20] <Pici> michael__: The versioning scheme that debian and ubuntu use are not compatible with each other for one.
[19:21] <michael__> so once i find the latest prebuilt debian package of whatever program i am using is all i need
[19:21] <michael__> one nice thing about debian, once you unistall that package all the files are removed.
[19:21] <genii> michael__: a .deb file could be for any system which uses the dpkg system of packaging for applications. It does not mean all .deb files can be used on all debian or debian based systems interchangeably
[19:21] <bazhang> michael__, does not sound like you are looking for support
[19:22] <michael__> i ask a simple question, quit with the extra crap and just give me the channel for whatever i am looking for.
[19:22] <michael__> this case is pidgin.
[19:22] <genii> michael__: Go to #pidgin then
[19:22] <bazhang> michael__, and as this is a support channel, you should go elsewhere
[19:37] <toby_> How do I stop KNetworkManager loading at startup? It's not in ~/.kde/Autostart
[19:37] <brad__> Hi, what is the best program to use to run a hardware diagnostic, my computer is acting screwy in a few ways
[19:38] <brad__> and is there a way to reinstall essential files/test the integrity of the install without reinstalling? (or does apt-get do that automatically?)
[19:40] <[Relic]> Anyone good with flash awake?  Wondering if the debug version would give me more info on why the flash on a certain site won't work
[19:40] <_Groo_> hi/2 all...
[19:41] <michael__> can't flash working?
[19:41] <michael__> simple if i may say, don't use the apt-get to get flash the package broken
[19:42] <lyhana> hi, i'm having problem reading a DVD, dmesg give me :
[19:42] <lyhana> [ 2564.935246] UDF-fs: No partition found (1)[ 2565.113180] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.[ 2574.639586] UDF-fs: No partition found (1)[ 2574.812296] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format
[19:43] <bazhang> michael__, that is simply not true
[19:43] <bazhang> michael__, please stop saying that here.
[19:43] <michael__> i tried it bazhang
[19:43] <michael__> apt-get and it does not work
[19:44] <bazhang> michael__, I have and it works flawlessly.
[19:44] <michael__> i even used apt-get to install firefox 3.04 that is supported and installed it the correct way
[19:44] <michael__> and flash would not work whatssoever
[19:44] <michael__> so i did a manual instal, put all the plugins under firefox/plugins and works
[19:44] <_gunni_> michael__: For me flash over apt-get is working, too. So package cant be broken
[19:44] <bazhang> michael__, well considering all the third party packages you have installed then it is no surprise.
[19:45] <[Relic]> didn't workmthe first time then on the second run it did
[19:45] <michael__> i don't know why i use apt-get to install firefox 3.04 and flash doesn't want to work
[19:45] <michael__> yet the manual install works without trouble.
[19:45] <bazhang> michael__, this is why it is never a good idea to break the package management system
[19:45] <michael__> well i had to break the package management this time
[19:45] <bazhang> michael__, no.
[19:45] <michael__> because it simply refused to work
[19:46] <michael__> every computer works different
[19:46] <saki> You kids and your silly package management. Back in my day, if we wanted something to run, we had to compile it.
[19:46] <bazhang> michael__, what you are doing is neither supported nor recommended, and you have been told this on more than one occasion.
[19:46] <michael__> thank goodness i don't use this for support.
[19:46] <bazhang> michael__, indeed you dont
[19:47] <bazhang> michael__, and since this is a support channel, you should depart.
[19:47] <michael__> i tried to ask for one issue and everyone keeps giving me the run abouts!.
[19:48] <michael__> come on people, there should be one channel for kubuntu 8.04 and one for 8.10
[19:48] <michael__> to help keep the distro easy
[19:48] <bazhang> !offtopic | michael__
[19:48] <bazhang> michael__, please chat elsewhere. this is for support only.
[19:51] <alt> добрый вечер! помогите решить проблему...!
[19:51] <Pici> !ru | alt
[19:53] <[Relic]> anyway back to the original, am I just going to have to remove the package version and install from the adobe site the debug version?
[19:53] <godkilla> hey
[19:54] <godkilla> i managed to get the inet running, but the settings are not saved, do i have to make a rc script or is there another way?
[19:54] <godkilla> im using "ifconfig eth1 bla.."; "route add default gw ..";
[19:55] <Tm_T> godkilla: /etc/network/interfaces is the place for that kind of things
[19:56] <godkilla> Tm_T: and how to add the route stuff there?
[19:56] <alexei> why does my firefox 3.0 zoom images? They become jaggy, looks not good. You can probably achive the same by hitting Cntrl-+ several times.
[19:57] <Tm_T> !network
[19:57] <Tm_T> bah
[19:57] <Tm_T> godkilla: I cannot remember rightaway where's proper guides for that
[19:58] <godkilla> ok the rc script will do for now
[20:10] <ech0s7> hi
[20:10] <ech0s7> anybody that uses fglrx (catalyst) can try if works gettemperature ?  aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature ... thanks!
[20:12] <hellsing> ech0s7 how should it work?
[20:12] <eagles05> !smbmount
[20:12] <eagles05> !info smbmount
[20:12] <eagles05> O_o
[20:12] <ech0s7> hellsing: aticonfig --help tell you
[20:13] <hellsing>  aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature
[20:13] <hellsing> >_<
[20:13] <eagles05> !smbmount
[20:13] <hellsing> Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
[20:13] <hellsing>             Sensor 0: Temperature - 77.00 C
[20:13] <eagles05> :( anyone know what repo smbmount is in
[20:13] <hellsing> it work
[20:13] <eagles05> hellsing watch that temp thats rather hot
[20:13] <ech0s7> hellsing: what version of fglrx you are using ?
[20:13] <ech0s7> 8.12 ?
[20:13] <ech0s7> or 8.11 ?
[20:13] <hellsing> yes
[20:14] <hellsing> 8.12
[20:14] <hellsing> ati 4850
[20:14] <Pici> eagles05: its part of the smbfs package iirc
[20:14] <eagles05> Pici ty
[20:14] <ech0s7> hellsing: can you tell me where is your libatiadlxx.so ?
[20:14] <ech0s7> $ locate libatiadlxx.so
[20:14] <ech0s7> tell you
[20:16] <hellsing> in /usr/lib
[20:16] <ech0s7> hellsing: ok
[20:16] <ech0s7> because on my machine not works
[20:16] <ech0s7> $ sudo aticonfig --adapter=0 --od-gettemperature
[20:16] <ech0s7> ERROR - Could not find library: libatiadlxx.so
[20:16] <eagles05> !smbclient
[20:16] <eagles05> !info smbclient
[20:17] <ech0s7> but this library is in /usr/lib
[20:17] <hellsing> do you reinstall the fglrx (just in case...)
[20:18] <ech0s7> done
[20:18] <ech0s7> with no result positive
[20:19] <hellsing> do you have a thermal sensor?
[20:19] <hellsing> on old card like 9800 pro there is no sensor i know
[20:20] <ech0s7> i have a hd3470
[20:20] <ech0s7> card
[20:20] <hellsing> i don't know if there is a sensor in
[20:24] <ech0s7> hellsing: i thinks yes
[20:25] <ech0s7> i would know temperature
[20:25] <hellsing> i guess so
[20:25] <ech0s7> because the fan of my pc is always on
[20:25] <ech0s7> (sony vaio sr21m)
[20:25] <ech0s7> notebook
[20:25] <hellsing> oh notebook
[20:26] <hellsing> same probleme under my notebook
[20:26] <Tm_T> !neon
[20:26] <hellsing> this f****g fan is always on top speed...
[20:28] <ech0s7> hellsing: but you have the same problem also under windows ?
[20:28] <ech0s7> have you tried ?
[20:28] <hellsing> under windows no problem on my notebook
[20:28] <hellsing> (on my desktop i don't care)
[20:28] <ech0s7> what model ?
[20:29] <hellsing> just a minute i will tell you if i can get the temperature under linux on my notebook
[20:30] <hellsing> it doesn't work
[20:30] <hellsing> but another error XD
[20:31] <hellsing> ati overdrive not supported
[20:31] <nicola> hellsing: try with "cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature"
[20:31] <hellsing> 44c
[20:31] <nicola> low
[20:32] <hellsing> (the notebook just start)
[20:32] <ech0s7> $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ00/temperature
[20:32] <ech0s7> temperature:             38 C
[20:32] <ech0s7> and the fun is turned ON
[20:33] <ech0s7> have i to send my notebook to assistance ?
[20:33] <hellsing> i don't think so, it works
[20:33] <hellsing> under windows, does it work?
[20:34] <ech0s7> also under windows
[20:34] <ech0s7> the fan is always on
[20:34] <ech0s7> never it stop
[20:34] <seele> what folder do cameras usually automount to?  i plugged in my camera like i normally do but the open with dialog isn't popping up
[20:34] <nicola> I've the same problem with my fun
[20:34] <ech0s7> nicola: what model notebook ?
[20:35] <nicola> When did you notice the problem with the fun?
[20:35] <jussi01> seele: webcam?
[20:35] <nicola> asus
[20:35] <seele> jussi01: digital camera
[20:35] <seele> jussi01: usb
[20:35] <hellsing> seele /media/device_name
[20:35] <ech0s7> i have a sony sr21m (1,300€)
[20:35] <ech0s7> from 7 days
[20:35] <nicola> F3S
[20:35] <seele> booo.. not there
[20:35] <jussi01> seele: ahh, mine usually goes into /media
[20:35] <seele> yeah.. it didn't get mounted
[20:35] <nicola> 2 year old
[20:36] <jussi01> seele: Ive seen a few issues with peoples mass storage drives not being loaded, possibly the same.
[20:37] <DaSkreech> seele: Is it in Dolphin's side bar or the Device manager?
[20:37] <hellsing> ech0s7 it's depend : sometimes the fan is on top speed,, wifi doesn't work, and after a reboot everything is fine
[20:37] <seele> DaSkreech: no
[20:37] <DaSkreech> seele: is the /dev/devicename there ?
[20:38] <ech0s7> i have always wifi on
[20:38] <ech0s7> the wifi can be the cause that fan is always on ?
[20:38] <hellsing> no, it just under my notebook sometimes it doesn't work
[20:39] <ech0s7> ah ok
[20:39] <ech0s7> i haven't files in /proc/acpi/fan
[20:41] <hellsing> me neither
[20:42] <s0101> sony ericsson w980 problems i cant transfer music to the phone due to a bug the phone only detects the camera
[20:42] <s0101> anybody who might know about this?
[20:43] <hellsing> no
[20:44] <s0101> i tried to google but i dont manage to fix it pls help me
[20:47] <alt> привет! как попасть на русский IRC?
[20:47] <genii> !ru | alt
[20:47] <alt> спс!
[20:53] <bob_> Hi - is it possible to mount an smb share on startup?
[20:53] <blabla_> DaSkreech: i was able to recover the most important files from the disk with photorec, testdisk was unable to recover the partition table... but now i have another problem, /home/user is empty and kde crashes after logging in immediately i think because of that(what do you think) it also shows Welcome to localhost.localdomain instead of Welcome to lnetbook(the ttys show Ubuntu 8.10 lnetbook tty* but after i login and logout they also show U
[20:53] <blabla_> localhost.localdomain tty*) what can i do?
[20:53] <hellsing> yes bob
[20:54] <bob_> hellsing: mind helping?
[20:54] <hellsing> i try to find it, i already do that 2 years ago
[20:55] <leigh> i just installed kubuntu on a dell 1420...everything is working pretty good except when i open certain things they are black with some weird lines in them, and than open correctly
[20:55] <leigh> this happens with various programs (firefox, and when i just opened up konversation) and with menu's such as file, edit, ect
[20:55] <leigh> can anyone help me out?
[20:56] <DaSkreech> blabla_: You got back all your files ?
[20:56] <hellsing> bob do it with fstab
[20:56] <DaSkreech> leigh: Driver bug for compositing
[20:57] <leigh> daskreech: no way to fix this for now than?
[20:57] <DaSkreech> leigh: turn of compositing ?
[20:57] <bob_> yeah fstab - any idea on the syntax
[20:57] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[20:58] <hellsing> bob_ : //stonegiga/partage /home/hanoteau/mnt/stonegiga/partage smbfs rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/etc/samba/pub.cred 0 0
[20:58] <leigh> daskreech: ok thanks
[20:58] <blabla_> DaSkreech: yes but without the correct filenames, i just needed some files an i found everyone of them
[20:58] <bob_> cool, that helps
[20:58] <hellsing> bob_  and in pub.cred :username=user
[20:58] <hellsing> password=pass
[20:59] <leigh> also what is the best way to speed up my pointer?  I change the acceleration value in the mouse settings but that seems to give me weird feedback...
[20:59] <hellsing> bob_  /etc/samba/pub.cred
[20:59] <bob_> sweet, i've got a project :)
[21:00] <hellsing> great
[21:00] <DaSkreech> leigh: You can turn it off temporarily with alt+shift+F12 to try stuff out
[21:00] <DaSkreech> blabla_: That's good
[21:01] <leigh> daskreech: yea that worked...what does compositing do?
[21:02] <DaSkreech> leigh: Pretty stuff.
[21:02] <leigh> yea i just noticed by cairo-dock has a weird block around it when it's off
[21:02] <DaSkreech> I think Cairo dock requires it
[21:03] <leigh> cairo still worked...it just didn't look as good
[21:03] <leigh> like u said...pretty stuff
[21:04] <R_Rios> Amarok 2 is not working here
[21:04] <R_Rios> I use Kubuntu Intrepid
[21:05] <blabla_> DaSkreech: can i fix kde? kdm.log shows only Errors from xkbcomp wich are not fatal...
[21:05] <R_Rios> When I run it on the terminal, I get this:
[21:05] <R_Rios> FAILURE (KCmdLineArgs):
[21:05] <R_Rios> Application requests for isSet("multipleinstances") but the "multipleinstances"option
[21:05] <R_Rios> has never been specified via addCmdLineOptions( ... )
[21:05] <R_Rios> ASSERT: "0" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.1.3/kdecore/kernel/kcmdlineargs.cpp, line 1499
[21:05] <R_Rios> Cancelado
[21:05] <R_Rios> What's happening?
[21:05] <DaSkreech> R_Rios: #kubuntu-devel
[21:05] <R_Rios> Thanks
[21:05] <DaSkreech> blabla_: certainly can you pastebin ls -a ~ ?
[21:07] <DaSkreech> um ok
[21:08] <DaSkreech> blabla_: Still here?
[21:08] <blabla_> DaSkreech: ls -a ~ prints out . ..
[21:08] <DaSkreech> blabla_: ok so everything is in fact dead
[21:08] <blabla_> DaSkreech: yes
[21:08] <DaSkreech> you have your ~ mounted from somewhere ?
[21:09] <blabla_>  /dev/mmcblk0 is mounted on /home
[21:09] <DaSkreech> Alright and you can login on the terminal?
[21:12] <blabla_> yes
[21:14] <shad0w0fsin> is anyone else experiencing a problem with global keyboard shortcuts in Kubuntu 8.10?
[21:14] <blabla_> DaSkreech: yes i can
[21:18] <DaSkreech> blabla: ok if You login on the terminal and run startx what happens ?
[21:20] <blabla> DaSkreech: Fatal Server Error: Server is already running for display 0. (i can tell you x is running, but after i enter my username and password in the kde login dialog kde crashes and the login dialog appears again)
[21:21] <DaSkreech> blabla: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && startx
[21:24] <n4mu> bonjour
[21:24] <n4mu> i have a "serious" question . ..
[21:24] <n4mu> :]
[21:24] <blabla> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86550/
[21:24] <n4mu> i just updated from 8.04 to 8.10
[21:24] <n4mu> and i'm wondering...  where is kcontrol nowadays ?
[21:25] <n4mu> i'm looking for the "real" kde control panel, not the one with only a few options
[21:25] <jussi01> n4mu: its called system settings
[21:25] <DaSkreech> blabla: do you have space on /
[21:25] <n4mu> jussi01: yes, but that one only has so many options
[21:25] <blabla> there should be >1,5GB
[21:25] <DaSkreech> n4mu: No one wanted to port kcontrol to KDE4 as soon as someone does so you can have it back
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> i have a problem with amarok
[21:26] <n4mu> DaSkreech: thanks :]
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> where it changes teh name of the song
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> can any1 help?
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> this only happens with 2 albums on my coolection
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip>  but this problem is not apparent in other players i use
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip>  help?
[21:26] <n4mu> ruhaan_jslip: just wondering, maybe it's just an id tag problem
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> nope
[21:26] <DaSkreech> blabla: does there exist a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old ?
[21:26] <ruhaan_jslip> coz it works fine in other players
[21:27] <ruhaan_jslip> like rhythmy box etc
[21:27] <blabla> DaSkreech: yes
[21:27] <DaSkreech> When was it made ?
[21:27] <n4mu> ruhaan_jslip: there are different types of id tags, and a file can have multiple formats
[21:27] <ruhaan_jslip> the file is in FLAC
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> but see the problem is amarok reads the name of the song correct
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> in the pane on the right
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> and even when i add it to playlist its fine
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> but when i play the song
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> the name chnages
[21:28] <ruhaan_jslip> to one partiucalr song in the whole album
[21:28] <n4mu> ruhaan_jslip: i'm just guessing since i've seen files with multiple idtags and the soft will only use one of them.
[21:29] <ruhaan_jslip> lemem show u a screenshot
[21:29] <n4mu> other than that, i don't know.
[21:29] <DaSkreech> blabla: also what does "which xinit" print ?
[21:30] <n4mu> otherwise, since there is no kcontrol, i am very very very sad.
[21:30] <n4mu> i mean kde4 is like a shock to me
[21:30] <blabla> DaSkreech: Xorg.0.log.old: 2008-12-16 and which xinit: /usr/bin/xinit
[21:31] <harolddong> I thought beta 2 was supposed to be released today
[21:31] <ruhaan_jslip> http://i43.tinypic.com/mtnsw1.png
[21:31] <DaSkreech> harolddong: delayed a day
[21:31] <n4mu> i liked kde as long as i can mangage to tone it down to something simple yet functionnal..  and now i don't see how to deactivate and customize stuff
[21:31] <Danu> Hello, sorry my english is very bad, but i'm having some trouble with kde4, really just one: the screen blink constantly, every 10 seconds
[21:31] <DaSkreech> n4mu: What do you want to deactivate ?
[21:31] <harolddong> thanks
[21:31] <n4mu> and the background, it's all weird, i just want a solid color backgroudn.. .
[21:32] <DaSkreech> Danu: alt+shift+F12
[21:32] <n4mu> lol Danu that sounds a bit like what i'm getting here too.
[21:32] <Danu> Mister DaSkreech thanks, i'll try
[21:33] <JontheEchidna> Danu: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.10.22/kubuntu-intrepid-dual-monitor-blinking/
[21:33] <DaSkreech> n4mu: all seems doable so far
[21:33] <n4mu> DaSkreech: i have conky running ...  :]
[21:34] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[21:34] <n4mu> so either the background is "grey" like i set (but no visible conky), or is all white and shows conky
[21:34] <n4mu> depends if im right cliking or something
[21:34] <n4mu> so it's purrty ugly ... :/
[21:35] <Danu> Oh my god mi connection is horrible (128 kbps) it's very unstable :(, sure i'll be gone in seconds
[21:36] <DaSkreech> n4mu: Good call by Danu
[21:36] <n4mu> DaSkreech: ?
[21:37] <n4mu> hmm
[21:38] <DaSkreech> n4mu: How does conky handle compositing ? or does it use fake transparency ?
[21:38] <n4mu> anyway, i don't want to be "bashy" at all...  i just think that my experience here with 8.10 is just going to "force" me to either revert to 8.04, or xfce, or maybe even just debian/stable.. :]
[21:38] <n4mu> DaSkreech: good question
[21:40] <n4mu> (all this just to "maybe" be able to launch kdenlive)
[21:40] <DaSkreech> n4mu: Hmm ? whats that all about?
[21:40] <n4mu> i upgraded because i heard that was needed to run kdenlive
[21:41] <n4mu> and kdenlive was just crashing, beit the official ubuntu packages or the "other"
[21:42] <n4mu> http://www.kdenlive.org/user-manual/downloading-and-installing-kdenlive/pre-compiled-packages/ubuntu-packages
[21:43] <n4mu> ach !!  plus the update did not import kdenetworking settings, nor application shortcuts
[21:45] <neo> наконецто
[21:45] <neo> всем привет
[21:46] <genii> !ru | neo
[21:46] <neo> ok
[21:47] <gnice> Anyone willing to offer help with a dual0-head fglrx config?
[21:47] <gnice> dual-head, rather 8)
[21:48] <blabla> DaSkreech: sudo startx worked... but starx does not work, could that be that i have set the wrong permissions for some files? because i played with chmod, chown and chgrp...
[21:50] <DaSkreech> blabla: sounds likely
[21:51] <DaSkreech> can you pull out your commands that dealt with that?
[21:52] <blabla> chmod 755 -R * i think (i wanted: ./*)
[21:53] <GLGS_85> ciao
[21:53] <GLGS_85> !list
[21:55] <Daskreec1> Bah X just hung up
[21:56] <Daskreec1> Is there a way to send KDE a logout command over dbus ?
[21:56] <Daskreec1> HI Danu
[21:56] <n4mu> omg, really. ..  . the more i look into the "update" the more i regret.. ..  what happened to my old firefox2
[21:57] <Danu> Hi Mister Daskreec1
[21:57] <n4mu> there isn't even 3, must reinstall. .. : [
[21:57] <n4mu> this is all but smooth..  .
[21:57] <Danu> i still have the blink issue
[21:57] <Danu> :(
[21:57] <n4mu> and now i guess i have to reinstall the whole system to get back what i had this morning
[21:57] <Daskreec1> n4mu: Thre is a Firefox 3
[21:57] <Danu> i've been tryin' almost everything
[21:58] <hulk> list
[21:58] <Daskreec1> I think 2 is there as well but Mozilla killed it lastweek so don't expect that much longer
[21:58] <n4mu> i had 2
[21:58] <n4mu> but i guess it either was uninstalled and not "upgraded" or something
[21:58] <Daskreec1> On hardy but Mozilla killed all support for it so you would have lost it in the next update in any case
[21:59] <cuznt> i am trying to point a device to a jre i get an error message
[21:59] <n4mu> anyway, things seem so messed up..
[21:59] <n4mu> twinkle kept it's settings, that's a +1 though
[22:00] <Daskreec1> n4mu: Ah no I remember now Ubuntu did remove Firefox 2
[22:00] <Daskreec1> There was a big thing about them shipping with a beta Firefox and all
[22:01] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[22:01] <Bundestrojaner> i'm running kubuntu 8.10
[22:01] <n4mu> Daskreec1: aha.. . thanks :]
[22:01] <Bundestrojaner> is it possible to downgrade to kde 3.5?
[22:01] <Danu> Hello Mr Bundestrojaner
[22:01] <blabla> Daskreec1: chmod 755 -R * i think (i wanted: ./*)
[22:02] <Psi-Jack> Hey, how do I make the digital clock on the kpanel not be in 24 hour time, but in 12hour time?
[22:02] <Daskreec1> blabla: what dir was that done in ?
[22:02] <Bundestrojaner> is it possible to downgrade to kde 3.5 in kubuntu 8.10?
[22:03] <blabla> Daskreec1: /home/user/anything
[22:03] <Daskreec1> n4mu: Unfortunately despite all the gumbling about closed source software noone drops support faster than FOSS
[22:03] <n4mu> ah, another big +1, the sound card works alot better . .. :]]
[22:03] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: Yes but not officially
[22:03] <Daskreec1> blabla: That's fine then
[22:03] <n4mu> the internal swith (headset) seems to work now
[22:03] <Bundestrojaner> Daskreec1: i know^^ how can i do this?
[22:03] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: Check the ubuntu forums for KDE3 ibex PPA
[22:04] <Daskreec1> Be careful about which repos you add some people have packaged KDE3 in a way that will miss up your computer
[22:04] <Bundestrojaner> which ubuntu forums?
[22:04] <zce> how can i stop knetworkmanager from starting? i want to use only gnome's one
[22:04] <n4mu> Daskreec1: i'm just very used to debian, this is my first "real" experience with (k)ubuntu, my first "dist-upgrade"
[22:04] <Psi-Jack> Bleh, I actually hate gnome's network manager.
[22:04] <Bundestrojaner> there must be millions of ubuntu-forums on the net
[22:05] <zce> althought i love kde, i hate knetworkmanager :P
[22:05] <n4mu> whereas with debian i never had any real issues since woody, on either servers or desk/lap-tops ... (well of course the upgrades come every 10 years.. :] )
[22:05] <Psi-Jack> zce: Why? Just curious. I hate that a WIRED network connection, gnome's nm-applet constantly tells you it's connected.
[22:06] <Daskreec1> n4mu: I'll give this to Debian the long periods of testing help a lot
[22:06] <Daskreec1> !forums
[22:06] <PSiL0> Psi-Jack: 24-clock settings: Settings->International
[22:06] <PSiL0> more specifically: system systems->regional&Language
[22:07] <zce> Psi-Jack: well im on wireless mostly, and like to see all avaiable networks on the popup (and apparently it shows much more networks than knetwork).. also, gnome-nm connects automatically my cdma modem, in kde-nm i would have to configure manually (and i couldnt get it to work anyway)
[22:07] <PSiL0> !wireless bug
[22:07] <PSiL0> !wireless
[22:07] <Psi-Jack> PSiL0: Ahh, Regional & Language?
[22:07] <n4mu> Daskreec1: yeppe. .. it's always a (hard?) choice between stable (and old) or bleeding edge (or bleeding something/one)
[22:07] <PSiL0> Psi-Jack: [14:06] <PSiL0> more specifically: system systems->regional&Language
[22:07] <PSiL0> whoops, system settings
[22:08] <Daskreec1> n4mu: Welcome to consumer marketing where you bleed from the stable releases :)
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> btw: the reason why i want to downgrade is: i have Kubuntu 8.10 on my eeepc
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> if i play a video, it "stops" every 5 seconds for a half second
[22:08] <Daskreec1> lol
[22:08] <n4mu> Daskreec1: yah :]]
[22:08] <Bundestrojaner> if i start mplayer on blackbox, there's no problem
[22:08] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: Hmm yeah check the ubuntuforums
[22:09] <Daskreec1> !forums | In case ya missed it Bundestrojaner
[22:09] <Daskreec1> n4mu: Overall it's nice but you do strongly start to feel that you should have two machines with ubuntu
[22:10] <Daskreec1> One to be stable and one to keep up since it seems like you have a month or two of being comfortable before it upgrade time again
[22:10] <Bundestrojaner> Daskreec1: are you a bot who says "check ubuntuforums"?
[22:11] <n4mu> Daskreec1: i'm going to see what i can this evening with this 8.10, because sound issues where starting to become important, and here it now works (okay, everything else is a bit broken :] ) and then i'll go back to good old debian prolly...
[22:11] <Bundestrojaner> i searched on google for the problem
[22:11] <Bundestrojaner> i found nothing
[22:11] <Bundestrojaner> that's why i ask here
[22:11] <n4mu> Bundestrojaner: maybe don't search on google, but search on ubuntuforums ?
[22:12] <Bundestrojaner> i also searched there - nothing
[22:12] <n4mu> ah.
[22:12] <Bundestrojaner> there are results about problems with flash-videos
[22:12] <Daskreec1> n4mu: ok well have a list of issues written down Likely some of the m are easily resolved
[22:12] <n4mu> then i cannot say, i just upgraded too, but i'm not even to the point of testing videos
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> i also made a analysis of the problem:
[22:13] <Bundestrojaner> the most strange thing is, that the video player takes only 25% of cpu-power
[22:13] <n4mu> Daskreec1: okay
[22:14] <Bundestrojaner> so i have no idea what the problem is
[22:14] <Bundestrojaner> but it works with mplayer on blackbox
[22:14] <Bundestrojaner> so the problem is somewhere in kde 4.1 and it's not a too slow cpu
[22:14] <jjproctor_> POOOP
[22:15] <mozzy> hi all - installed flash 10 64bit today - very pleased so far
[22:16] <jjproctor_> I GOT TO POOOOOP
[22:16] <jjproctor_> RUNN
[22:16]  * Psi-Jack shakes his head.
[22:16] <jjproctor_> OOHH NOO SOMEONE IN THE BATHROOM!!!!!!
[22:17] <Psi-Jack> Thank gods.
[22:17] <n4mu> jpds: poop in a plastic bag.
[22:17] <n4mu> oops
[22:17] <loldude> i know right
[22:17] <jussi01> loldude: please behave!
[22:18] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: why don't you just use mplayer in KDE4 ?
[22:18] <loldude> ahhh i feel better now
[22:18] <loldude> thz plastic bag dude
[22:18] <Psi-Jack> Or better yet, VLC, which is by far, better than mplayer.
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> Bundestrojaner: i tried mplayer, kmplayer, kaffeine,...
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> every program has the same problem
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> that's why i think, kde4 is the problem
[22:19] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Okay, you may've done this before.
[22:19] <Bundestrojaner> and it works on blackbox
[22:19] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: But what is the problem?
[22:20] <loldude>                                                                                                                                       poop tastes good just like kandy
[22:20] <Bundestrojaner> every 5 Seconds the Video "stops" for a half second
[22:20] <Psi-Jack> Geez.
[22:20] <Psi-Jack> loldude: GROW up
[22:20] <Bundestrojaner> it's like a empty buffer...
[22:20] <loldude> NO IT SOOOO GOOOOD
[22:21] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Are you using KDE with composting turned on?
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> composting? :D
[22:21] <Bundestrojaner> you mean compiz?
[22:21] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Compiz with XRender or OpenGL, yes.
[22:21] <Psi-Jack> Aka: Composting.
[22:21] <jussi01> compositing :D
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> Psi-Jack: i didn't change anything, i have a "normal" kubuntu 8.10 atm
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> i installed it yesterday
[22:22] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: OKay, So do you get transparent windows, and the likes?
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> yes
[22:22] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Okay, then.. Go into the KStart menu, System Settings
[22:22] <Bundestrojaner> if i move a window, it get's transparent
[22:22] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Go to Desktop
[22:23] <Bundestrojaner> k
[22:23] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Tick off Enable desktop effects.
[22:23] <jean> tem algum brasileiro ae?
[22:23] <Psi-Jack> And run because ticking it off may not be too friendly. ;}
[22:23] <mooglinux> under kubuntu i have poorer sound quality than i did under gnome. what gives?
[22:23] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: If that solves your problem, it will be related to it, which could be your video drivers or options/extensions related to your video drivers.
[22:24] <Bundestrojaner> Psi-Jack: no change
[22:24] <jussi01> !br | jean
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> or must i restart kde after the setting?
[22:25] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: No need to restart. What video card are you using?
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> it's an eeePC
[22:25] <Psi-Jack> And?
[22:25] <Bundestrojaner> Intel 945
[22:25] <Psi-Jack> That doesn't tell me the vid... Okay.
[22:26] <Bundestrojaner> shall i enable the effects again?
[22:26] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: tried increasing your buffer?
[22:26] <Bundestrojaner> how?
[22:26] <Bundestrojaner> and what buffer?
[22:26] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Have you done all the latest updates since your install?
[22:26] <Bundestrojaner> yes
[22:26] <Daskreec1> !br
[22:27] <Daskreec1> video buffer
[22:27] <Bundestrojaner> how can i set this on kde?
[22:27] <Bundestrojaner> or do you mean the ram for the video card?
[22:31] <jean> meldels so novato to mais perdido que cego em tiroteio
[22:32] <Daskreec1> !br
[22:32] <Daskreec1> Bundestrojaner: There should be a setting in your video player settings I think
[22:33] <Bundestrojaner> setting for what? :(
[22:33] <qcjn> hi,
[22:33] <Bundestrojaner> i tried nearly every video output plugin
[22:33] <Psi-Jack> Bundestrojaner: Seems to be a lot of problems with Xorg support for the Intel 945, or anything past the i810. heh
[22:35] <mooglinux> after installing kubuntu my sound system is messed up. sound quality playing music with amarok (in gnome or kde) is opoor, and in gnome i cannot get any media playing application besides amarok to work
[22:35] <jean> #ubuntu-br
[22:35] <jean> aff
[22:35] <Bundestrojaner> i found it!!!
[22:35] <qcjn> Daskreec1: are you DaSkReech
[22:36] <Bundestrojaner> i stopt the "Detecting RANDR (monitor) changes" deamon
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> !sound | mooglinux
[22:36] <Daskreec1> jean: type /join #ubuntu-br
[22:36] <Daskreec1> qcjn: yes
[22:38] <jean> ok thank u
[22:40] <blabla_> Daskreec1: do you know why sudo startx works perfect and startx stops?
[22:40] <qcjn> DaSkreech: you finished by telling me "install the package compiz-kde and compiz should play nicely with KDE in the future"
[22:40] <DaSkreech> Yes
[22:40] <qcjn> but
[22:40] <DaSkreech> hi BluesKaj
[22:40] <DaSkreech> blabla_: Permissions
[22:40] <blabla_> DaSkreech: do you know why sudo startx works perfect and startx stops?
[22:41] <mooglinux> !sound
[22:41] <DaSkreech> something is messed up on your X permissions
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> blabla_ what messages do you get when you startx?
[22:41] <cuznt> !kopete
[22:41] <cuznt> !yim
[22:42] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86550/
[22:42] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: which xinit gives a correct result
[22:42] <holycow> what happened to kpilot in kde4? has it been renamed or replaced with a new project?
[22:42] <csc_> i would like to know where i can find a  working usplash screen after grub starts for replacing the actual "xubuntu". i tried many but they either have other "ubuntu" text logos or do not support every resolution like the default one. please help
[22:42] <DaSkreech> holycow: Being ported almost done needs testers #kpilot to apply
[22:42] <qcjn> DaSkreech: i don't think this was the problem, at first..cause there was something to install and i couldn't even type the pasword, so you suggested me to kwin --replace..if i remember well,,,then my computer crashed
[22:43] <berilio> hey guys, ive installed kubuntu-desktop im currently in ubuntu, but i cant see packages with adept, i cant find a solution... and i see firefox very guffy
[22:43] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Yes I tld you to switch out to compiz
[22:43] <DaSkreech> berilio: You have to rebuild your cache manually I think it's a known bug
[22:43] <blabla_> DaSkreech: the same as before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86550/
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: try: sudo chown <user name> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:44] <berilio> DaSkreech, speaking in english, what would that be...
[22:44] <DaSkreech> berilio: sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[22:44] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Why should the Xor log be owned by one user?
[22:45] <holycow> DaSkreech: thank you sir
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: you could make it be owned by the users group
[22:45] <berilio> DaSkreech, do i have to type that everysingle time i want to update my sources?
[22:45] <DaSkreech> ActionParsnip: Might work but that smells of wide spread breakage in any case
[22:45] <DaSkreech> berilio: No I think only when you add a new repo
[22:46] <qcjn> DaSkreech: but , compiz want working under ked desktop...ok, first i ll try to relog to kde desktop, cause now i'm under gnome
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: possibly, but if the user doesnt have access...
[22:46] <qcjn> be back !
[22:46] <berilio> DaSkreech, thanks man for the help
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> DaSkreech: mines -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14171 2008-12-16 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:48] <qcjn> i'm back
[22:48] <DaSkreech> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56325 2008-12-16 17:37 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:48] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Hai!
[22:48] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[22:49] <DaSkreech> qcjn: Try that ^^^
[22:49] <qcjn> yes what ?
[22:49] <antiroach> why is kde 4.1 so terrible? :(
[22:49] <antiroach> is there a way to downgrade to 3.6. im currently using 4.1 on kubuntu 8.10
[22:50] <DaSkreech> antiroach: To make KDE 4.2 more impressive :)
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> antiroach: works fine with fluxbox instead of kwin
[22:50] <antiroach> heh ActionParsnip
[22:50] <antiroach> i didnt mind kde 3.6
[22:50] <antiroach> or whatever was standard on 7.10
[22:51] <antiroach> 4.1 is making my cpu/video card beg for mercy
 why is kde 4.1 so terrible? :(   where is my katapult??/
[22:51] <antiroach> cuznt, yes!
[22:52] <antiroach> why all the widgets and transparency stuff
[22:52] <qcjn> DaSkreech: Try what ? compiz-kde
[22:52] <antiroach> and why is there a huge gap between the maximize and close buttons
[22:52] <cuznt> i just learned hot to use katapult
[22:52] <DaSkreech> !compiz | qcjn try this
[22:53] <DaSkreech> cuznt: try krunner
[22:53] <antiroach> krunner is the replacement i guess
[22:53] <antiroach> but no hotkey to launch it. alt+space was awesome
[22:53] <DaSkreech> antiroach: Turn off compositing ?
[22:53] <DaSkreech> antiroach: you can do alt+space in 4.2
[22:53] <antiroach> DaSkreech, how can i do that ?
[22:54] <antiroach> i cant find any place where to configure the way kde 4.1 looks
[22:54] <antiroach> aside from like colors/fonts
[22:54] <antiroach> no more kcontrol?
[22:54] <DaSkreech> antiroach: alt+f3 -> Window Behaviour -> Desktop Effects -> Enable Desktop effects
[22:54] <antiroach> DaSkreech, cool thanks
[22:54] <DaSkreech> antiroach: No one wanted to port it as soon as some one does you have that back
[22:55] <DaSkreech> Getting ready to go out I'll pop over hereto look like once every 5 minutes or so
[22:55] <cuznt> !krunner
[22:56] <antiroach> cuznt, right click -> run command
[22:56] <antiroach> right click on the desktop that is
[22:56] <cuznt> oh that
[22:56] <antiroach> ya
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> antiroach: you could compile katapult
[22:56] <cuznt> i got that
[22:56] <DaSkreech> cuznt: Alt+f2
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> antiroach: kcontrol is now systemsettings
[22:56] <antiroach> katapult is the least of my problems with kde
[22:57] <cuznt> i liked katapult better is all
[22:57] <antiroach> ActionParsnip, yeah except its pretty skimpy on configuration options
[22:57] <cuznt> alt+space is closer
[22:57] <cuznt> not as far a reach...
[22:57] <cuznt> im old and arthritic ya know....
[22:58] <antiroach> is there a way to get rid of the gap between the minimize/maximize buttons and the close button?
[22:58] <DaSkreech> cuznt: You can do that easily in 4.2
[22:59] <HappySmileMan> antiroach: Yeah, in system setting program in appearance settings
[22:59] <DaSkreech>  Might be able to do it in 4.1 as well don't know if it's easy though
[22:59] <werdnum> man my KDE is so stuffed up.
[22:59] <werdnum> It doesn't know about my battery anymore, my DPI is ridiculously large, etc.
[23:00] <antiroach> HappySmileMan, do you happen to know which tab that is in ?
[23:00] <blabla_> DaSkreech: mine(Xorg.0.log) is -rw-r--r-- root root 33184 2008-12-17 ...?
[23:01] <HappySmileMan> "Windows" part I think, then there's a "buttons" tab
[23:01] <HappySmileMan> You can customise locations there
[23:02] <antiroach> HappySmileMan, nice i got it
[23:02] <Danu> the blink is still there :(
[23:03] <birnisson> hi, is there a way I can get kpdf on intrepid?
[23:03] <Danu> I've been doing almost everything :(
[23:03] <HappySmileMan> sudo apt-get remove kpdf?
[23:03] <antiroach> im assuming he wants to install it
[23:03] <antiroach> its not in the default repos
[23:04] <Danu> i turn off all the efects (i have a SiS anyway) i also did the Services thing and nothing :(
[23:04] <antiroach> how can i get rid of the 'popups' that occur when you drag your mouse over a tab in the task bar
[23:05] <antiroach> Danu, what blink ?
[23:05] <Danu> in the screen
[23:05] <antiroach> thats not very descriptive :/
[23:05] <Danu> my english is very bad, nd in the spanish channel send me here
[23:05] <Danu> and*
[23:05] <antiroach> gotcha
[23:06] <kalorin> does anyone else think that firefox 3 just feels "wrong"
[23:06] <Danu> i don't know how say it :(
[23:06] <antiroach> is it something wrong with the display?
[23:06] <kalorin> like right now I'm uploading pictures to shutterfly via their java applet thing, and it's basically locked all the instances that are firefox
[23:06] <Danu> is like what stars do
[23:06] <Danu> a blink
[23:06] <antiroach> are you talking about when you click on an application
[23:06] <Danu> and the screen suddenly go black sometimes
[23:06] <Danu> No
[23:06] <antiroach> it has a little icon by the mouse and it jumps around
[23:06] <kalorin> I can't flip between tabs, in iether window that's firefox
[23:07] <kalorin> just strange feeling
[23:07] <Danu> it's every ten seconds
[23:07] <antiroach> oh weird, that doesnt happen to me
[23:07] <kalorin> yes, they're big images but still
[23:07] <antiroach> how can i get rid of the 'popups' that occur when you drag your mouse over a tab in the task bar
[23:07] <Danu> i turn off all the efects (i have a SiS anyway) i also did the Services thing and nothing :(
[23:07] <kalorin> top says it's using 4% of a CPU and it's a dual core
[23:07] <kalorin> w/ 4 gb of ram
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Danu: set a lower refresh rate
[23:08] <kalorin> just doesn't seem to thread right or something
[23:09] <Danu> Mr ActionParsnip how?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Danu: xorg.conf maybe or nvidia settings if yuo use nvidia
[23:09] <Danu> Mr. ActionParsnip i use SiS
[23:09] <Danu> :(
[23:09] <robinr> is kdebluetooth working in 8.10?
[23:09] <antiroach> is there a winamp like player for kde?
[23:10] <antiroach> thats not xmms2
[23:10] <robinr> antiroach: amarok? Not sure what winamp is like...
[23:10] <Danu> Well nice to meet you all but i gotta go, thanks anyway :)
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Danu: then itll probably be in xorg.conf
[23:11] <antiroach> anything but amarok :(. i dont want something that looks like itunes
[23:11] <DaSkreech> blabla_: Hmm
[23:11] <antiroach> i liked xmms but its depracated
[23:12] <werdnum> antiroach: amarok rox.
[23:12] <DaSkreech> birnisson: You have kpdf it wsa renamed okular
[23:12] <youness_> #kubuntufr
[23:13] <DaSkreech> antiroach: tooltips?
[23:13] <DaSkreech> robinr: no
[23:13] <antiroach> DaSkreech, i turned that off, but apparently it isnt it
[23:13] <DaSkreech> antiroach: beep may be called bmp in the repos
[23:13] <harolddong> if you're on linux and you're not using amarok for music then you're just being a masochist
[23:13] <DaSkreech> !fr
[23:13] <geiseri> has anyone had any experience with the 945 GME and hardy?
[23:14] <antiroach> harolddong, i hate the huge screen. i hate itunes too. i want winamp heh
[23:14] <DaSkreech> antiroach: You know yo ucan fully control amarok from the systray icon ?
[23:15] <cuznt> winamp is like xmms
[23:15] <antiroach> cuznt, exactly. but xmms is deprecated
[23:15] <cuznt> o
[23:15] <cuznt> mist that
[23:15] <antiroach> and i cant find a non bloated / fast gui for xmms2
[23:15] <antiroach> DaSkreech, oh hmm
[23:15] <antiroach> is there some keyboard shortcut for "next track" ?
[23:16] <DaSkreech> Not fully before anyone jumps down my throat but winamp type stuff
[23:16] <antiroach> heh
[23:16] <DaSkreech> antiroach: superkey+B
[23:16] <cuznt> like what exactly DaSkreech?
[23:16] <cuznt> i used to have winamp
[23:16] <DaSkreech> cuznt: No xmms is like winamp
[23:16] <antiroach> DaSkreech, oh cool. but it still takes like a second to switch tracks :/
[23:17] <DaSkreech> It was made to clone winamp before AOL went nuts
[23:17] <cuznt> knew someone with a spiked llama too
[23:17] <DaSkreech> antiroach: cause you have fade on it fades one out and the other in
[23:17] <antiroach> i turned those off heh
[23:18] <DaSkreech> turn off fade and it's near instant
[23:18] <DaSkreech> antiroach: super +zxcvb
[23:18] <DaSkreech> antiroach: Sounds familar ? :)
[23:18] <antiroach> hehe
[23:18] <antiroach> ya xmms/winamp :O
[23:18] <antiroach> ok i guess i can deal with this
[23:19] <antiroach> is there a way to prevent amarok from taking up space in the taskbar ?
[23:19] <DaSkreech> antiroach: That's global too so you can hit those whenever and it works
[23:19] <antiroach> ya i noticed its global. very nice
[23:19] <DaSkreech> antiroach: close the window it will pop to the systray
[23:19] <antiroach> ah
[23:19] <antiroach> ok im liking this more and more
[23:19] <DaSkreech> antiroach: super++ and super+-
[23:19] <antiroach> whats that do ?
[23:19] <DaSkreech> try it :)
[23:20] <antiroach> its not doing anything for me
[23:20] <DaSkreech> :-(
[23:20] <DaSkreech> Boo
[23:20] <DaSkreech> Volume
[23:20] <antiroach> ah
[23:20] <DaSkreech> super+shift++ and super+shift+- is seek
[23:20] <DaSkreech> backwards and forwards
[23:20] <antiroach> + and - works now too
[23:20] <antiroach> wasnt holding it long enough heh
[23:21] <antiroach> is there a way to search with superkey
[23:21] <DaSkreech> search ?
[23:21] <antiroach> like j in winamp
[23:21] <antiroach> search for a particular track
[23:21] <DaSkreech> ah Umm I forget
[23:22] <DaSkreech> check settings -> global shirtcuts
[23:22] <DaSkreech> shortcuts :)
[23:22] <antiroach> guess not heh
[23:22] <DaSkreech> antiroach: Submit a bug!! they must add that
[23:22] <antiroach> lol
[23:22] <DaSkreech> Super+J :)
[23:22] <antiroach> yea exactly
[23:23] <DaSkreech> amarok.kde.org and submit it as a bug :)
[23:23] <antiroach> thanks for all the help DaSkreech :o
[23:23] <michael> could someone help with network pci card or not
[23:24] <antiroach> kde 4.1 is starting to look a lot better now
[23:24] <antiroach> still got a lot of work to do to get it how i like hehe
[23:25] <michael> there be a way to remove the annoying cachew from the upper right hand corner or not in kde 4.1
[23:26] <antiroach> haha michael good question!
[23:26] <antiroach> cashew lol
[23:26] <michael> i love kde 4.1 but the cachew on the upper right hand corner of the screen gotta go.
[23:27] <antiroach> ya its really dumb
[23:27] <DaSkreech> michael: Run a containment that doesn't have it
[23:27] <antiroach> uh oh how do i get the plasma panel back
[23:27] <antiroach> i removed it haha
[23:27] <DaSkreech> right click add panel
[23:27] <michael> containment???
[23:27] <antiroach> whoa wtf
[23:27] <antiroach> it contains no icons
[23:28] <antiroach> i broke kde !
[23:28] <werdnum> How silly of you.
[23:28] <michael> i did download the add widget icon it has a widget for getting rid of the cachew but don;t know to do it manually
[23:28] <antiroach> brb im gonna kill kde :/
[23:29] <michael> this is the support department someone would know something to dispose of the annoying cachew.
[23:29] <DaSkreech> michael: Why is it annoying?
[23:30] <robinr> driving you nuts? :)
[23:30] <michael> because it already on the taskbar by the koo koo clock , i don't need it on the desktop
[23:30] <DaSkreech> michael: They do different things
[23:31] <michael> you can do the same thing by going to add widgits,
[23:31] <DaSkreech> but you can't zoom activites
[23:31] <michael> and kde 3.5 don';t have it, so there anyway of removing it from the desktop.
[23:31] <michael> don't need zoom or any fancy things i just want it gone for good.
[23:31] <DaSkreech> michael: In future you can just swap your desktop for one that doens't have it
[23:32] <michael> i am not going to get involved with adding desktops and this and that, and all the detail
[23:32] <michael> there has to be one simple file you delete using sudo and it goes bye byes
[23:33] <DaSkreech> michael: The desktop :)
[23:33] <michael> i like the desktop
[23:33] <DaSkreech> michael: if you like you can update to KDE 4.2 as per the topic the option is there
[23:33] <michael> kde 4.2 desktop don't have the annoy cachew on the desktop
[23:33] <DaSkreech> It does
[23:34] <DaSkreech> but you have an option for other stuff as well
[23:34] <michael> why give me all the detail? i don't nothing about some things like linux
[23:34] <DaSkreech> In anycase I have to run
[23:34] <DaSkreech> michael: Wha?
[23:35] <michael> cachew cachew its very annoying.
[23:35] <DaSkreech> michael: You can swap out your desktops capabilites in KDE4 the default one has a cashew. Other options may not have them as people add more desktop shells you can choose one that's perfect for you
[23:35] <antiroach> how can i move the panel to the bottom of the screen ? its on top now
[23:35] <DaSkreech> Gotta run :)
[23:36] <DaSkreech> antiroach: Click the cashew and there is a black bar above the panel just drag that balck bar around
[23:36] <mellhen> i have actually 4.1.3 installed. Id dont wonne upgrade to 4.2.80 now and upgrade a few ours later to kde 4.2.* beta2, it takes  a very long time with my bandwith. Can sb tell me how long (hours?) I have to wait for the Beta2 Packages?
[23:36] <antiroach> got it
[23:36] <DaSkreech> mellhen: It will be out by this time tomorrow
[23:36] <DaSkreech> I was delayed a few hours
[23:36] <DaSkreech> it
[23:36] <michael> they need to better improve kde 4.1 before releasing as, alot of people don't like the cachew such as me
[23:36] <mellhen> so in 24H?
[23:36] <DaSkreech> I will be delayed if I don't go now
[23:37] <michael> i don't know nothing bout swaping desktops, and do a complete reinstal forget it.
[23:37] <DaSkreech> mellhen: Yes it needs to be officially announced then it will be publicized here
[23:37] <DaSkreech> mellhen: It was put up earlier today then taken back down so as to not interfere with the Official announcment It's ready just wait for a little
[23:38] <DaSkreech> michael: It's not a complete reinstall it's the same dialog box to change your wallpaper
[23:38] <mellhen> in germany its the 17th of december the shedule would be to late here (for official announcement)
[23:38] <DaSkreech>  You can change your desktop wallpaper and theme at the same place
[23:38] <DaSkreech> Bye!!!
[23:38] <DaSkreech> !bye
[23:38] <mellhen> bye
[23:38] <michael> it doesn't matter what wallpaper i use, its embedded into the desktop
[23:38] <michael> and needs to be removed.
[23:41] <mellhen> its like christmas eve here
[23:41] <mellhen> the presents are ready, but your not allowed to touch them
[23:46] <kevin__> hello all
[23:47] <kevin__> Hello all, I have a debian package downloaded to my desktop It is an install flash player..........could some one tell me what I need to do in order to install this?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: sudo dpkg -i ¬/Desktop/*.deb
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> oops, replace ¬ with ~
[23:50] <kevin__> I will try
[23:51] <kevin__> action parsnip
[23:51] <kevin__> it did not like t he * command
[23:52] <kevin__> says to  pipe it through less or more
[23:52] <BluesKaj> !phonon
[23:52] <kevin__> If I navigate to the desktop could I just run dpkg install
[23:52] <BluesKaj> !info phonon
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> kevin__: sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/*.deb
[23:56] <kevin__> Action parsnip
[23:56] <antiroach> hey how can i change the format of the clock? its 24hrs i want it to be 12 hrs
[23:58] <kevin__> sorry in the end I navigated to the desktop and used sudo dpkg -i filename. will this work ok?