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Rocket2DMnk, thanks for the info guys00:02
Rocket2DMnis there a bug report for it?00:02
Hobbseeyes, but it's private00:03
Rocket2DMnwell im in bugcontrol, is it so private i cant see it?00:06
Rocket2DMnwait thats a stupid question, i can only see ubuntu private bugs00:10
spmRocket2DMn: user disabled again00:11
* Hobbsee hands spm a bigger hammer00:11
spmheh00:12
wgrantRocket2DMn: You can't implicitly see Ubuntu private bugs either...00:15
Rocket2DMnthanks spm00:15
Rocket2DMnwgrant, yeah i guess thats true00:15
Rocket2DMni just wanted to follow the status on the bug00:16
wgrantLaunchpad fortunately leaks lots of information out of other channels, so I've been following the status even though the bug is private.00:16
kikowgrant, hey, we don't leak that much!!00:26
wgrantkiko: The recent world-burning issue wasn't disclosed too widely, true. It was well described in the usual leak media so as to not reveal too much.00:28
stewartany timeframe for lp to understand bzr 1.9 format branches? (or something to make sure only branch formats supported by lp are hosted on lp ?)00:41
* Hobbsee prods launchpad00:42
Hobbseeoh no, it lives after 25 seconds.00:42
jmlstewart: the latter isn't going to happen any time soon.00:44
jmlstewart: the former should happen this release, AIUI00:44
* jml double checks00:44
stewartjml: yay - what timeframe are releases?00:44
wgrantTomorrow!00:45
jmlstewart: once every month. next one is tomorrow.00:45
stewartawesome00:45
jmlstewart: we almost always upgrade our bzr every release00:45
kikojml, 1.10 or1.11 this time?00:45
jmlkiko: 1.10, I think, but I haven't been following it. I've been head-down in package branches.00:46
wgrantYay!00:46
jmlkiko: 1.10.00:47
mwhudsonkiko: 1.11 isn't out yet00:48
stewart$ bzr push --overwrite00:50
stewartUsing saved push location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stewart-flamingspork/drizzle/linux-sparc2/00:50
stewartbzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar RepositoryFormatKnitPack6 (bzr 1.9)\\n'")00:50
stewarthrrm... anybody have any ideas?00:50
stewart(same without --overwrite)00:50
wgrantUse sftp, maybe.00:51
wgrantOr delete the branch.00:51
jmlstewart: sftp.00:52
* stewart trying00:52
mwhudsonthough if you want other people to access the branch, using an older format is sorta required00:54
stewartgah... so i'll have to go delete the branch and then find some magic option to push as 1.600:59
spivstewart: "bzr init --1.6 bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stewart-flamingspork/drizzle/linux-sparc2/", then push to it00:59
spivmwhudson: how soon will we have bzr 1.9 in LP?01:00
kikospiv, we'll have 1.10 on wednesday.01:00
wgrantspiv: It was just discussed - tomorrow.01:00
spivSweet.01:00
* wgrant likes LP's aggressive and normally fairly stable release cycles.01:01
spivNormally LP tracks bzr releases wonderfully well, then as soon as we do a release that introduces a new format... :P01:01
jmlwe love you too spiv :)01:02
kikospiv, when you add a new format then launchpad breaks :)01:06
hggdhhello, folks. Maurizio is back ;-(01:14
wgranthggdh: When? I think spm disabled him not too long ago.01:14
wgrantAnd the bug will be fixed tomorrow!01:14
hggdhCOOL!01:14
hggdhlast one was 27 minutes ago01:15
hggdhspm disabled him (methinks) two days ago01:15
wgrantspm disabled him an hour ago.01:15
hggdhat least he linked to a blueprint that makes a bit of sense: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cleanup-cruft01:16
hggdhbut oh boy, the linked bugs are legion there01:17
hggdhcan this blueprint be cleaned?01:20
wgrantIdeally spm would 'delete' the bugs, and Blueprint wouldn't reveal the existence of bug<->blueprint links if you can't see the bug.01:21
wgrantThe former can be done now, but the latter requires Blueprint to have somebody working on it.01:21
wgrantWhich hasn't been the case for a very long time.01:21
hggdhperhaps I can do it01:21
hggdhI will try01:21
wgrantYou can unlink them.01:22
wgrantUnless you can't see them.01:22
hggdhI can see them. trying to unlink now01:22
hggdhyay01:22
hggdhcool. I did not know I could do that. Sorry for the request.01:23
PilkyHey, I've just tried pushing a branch that is using the bzr 1.9 format to launchpad and now the branch on launchpad is showing the error: "Unknown repository format: 'Bazaar RepositoryFormatKnitPack6 (bzr 1.9)\n'"01:28
Pilkyanyone know how to fix that, or at least nuke the branch on launch pad so I can start afresh (it is a new project so I'm fine re-creating the branch locally)01:29
poolie1lp keeps losing my login credentials02:27
poolie1is it just me?02:27
wgrantpoolie1: It's working fine for me.02:29
jmlpoolie1: is this the firefox RSS thing again?02:32
wgrantNo, I just checked that.02:32
wgrantIt's definitely still fixed.02:32
jmlummm...02:32
wgrantThat was my first thought...02:32
jmlpoolie1: doing anything else crazy with your browser?02:33
jml(does firefox have a --no-plugins option?)02:33
Hobbseeiirc it's --safe-mode?02:34
wgrantSomething like that.02:35
poolie1jml, not that i know of02:49
jmlpoolie1: if you can, I'd recommend running without addons for a while and see if you still get the logouts.02:50
jmlpoolie1: or follow one of a number of other strategies to get a reproducible recipe :)02:51
MFenwhat's up with dch not respecting DEBEMAIL any more?02:52
HobbseeMFen: wfm.02:57
MFenmaybe i'm having environment variable problems.02:57
jameshdid you remember to export them?02:58
MFensweet! my ppa contains code https://launchpad.net/~corydodt/+archive03:58
MFeno_O03:59
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MTecknologykiko: Feeling better at all?06:51
kikowell06:51
kikosomewhat06:51
kikobetter than friday06:51
kikonot perfect though, by a longshot!06:51
MTecknologyimprovement's always good though :)06:51
MTecknologykiko: turns out there was a little bug in that plugin that made it not work right, since it's working me and one other guy are looking into porting it to 606:53
MTecknologyif possible06:53
MTecknologykiko: make sure you feel better, alright?06:54
kikoyeah, will rest a little bit06:55
kikoMTecknology, wow, I didn't know that porting it was even possible06:55
MTecknologyany reason you think it's not06:55
kikolet me check06:56
kikoso maybe it is possible and we just started too early on it (before 6 was available)06:57
MTecknologyoh06:58
MTecknologyit looks like the guy has one of them ported to 606:58
wgrantkiko: Are there docs on using the JS webservice API client, or do I have to work out the rest myself?06:58
MTecknologyI think he's still working on the teams though06:58
MTecknologykiko: swe3tdave is the guy that I've been working with on those ports, I haven't done the work since I've been busy porting a theme07:00
kikoneat07:00
kikowgrant, I'm not sure right now -- worth asking leonardr when he's around07:01
MTecknologyJust figured I'd bring up his name since he might help you guys get the rest of it going07:01
wgrantkiko: I /think/ I've worked out most bits myself. It'll be useful for doing stuff with Greasemonkey.07:01
MTecknologykiko: this is swe3tdave; swe3tdave: this is kiko; kiko: swe3tdave said he should be able to get most of the ports done by the end of the week...07:06
MTecknologyI just wanted to introduce the two of you, and maybe help keep redundant work from being done since swe3tdave has been doing a crap load of work on this.07:07
swe3tdavei'm almost done, i have two function left that i have to rewrite completly and i have to figure out the new form api to do that07:08
MTecknologyRinchen: perhaps you have interest too?? ^^07:09
MTecknologykiko: anyway - feel better ; sorry I keep jumping topic07:11
kikothat's pretty cool07:17
kikowell it /is/ kinda late for me :)07:17
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MTecknologykiko-zzz: yes, sleep, sleep well, sleep well and healthy07:19
* kiko-zzz waves07:19
* MTecknology waves his muscles at kiko-zzz ..*.-_-.*./07:19
MTecknologykiko-zzz: remind me to ask you something when you feel better07:20
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rkistneri'm having trouble browsing source code on launchpad09:54
rkistneri get the following error if i try to visit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bzr/bzr/trunk/annotate/3908?file_id=branch.py-20050309040759-e4baf4e0d046576e09:54
rkistnerSorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.09:54
rkistnerTry reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.09:54
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darius12hi, I 'm evaluating using launchpad for bugtracking for the eclipse integration13:46
darius12there is already an eclipse-team and it is open so joining will probably not be a problem13:47
darius12would it be possible to file bugs and assign them to this team then? Even if they are about packages that are not yet official?13:48
beuno_darius12, you should talk to the team members13:48
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darius12well, the question is about launchpad and the way it works first. If there is a problem with the specific team, we can make a new one13:50
darius12Development is actually taking place upstream (debian)13:51
beunodarius12, there really isn't *one* way to use Launchpad, so it's a lot about hay each team works13:51
darius12so it is acceptable to file bugs to launchpad even if they are not about ubuntu packages?13:51
beunodarius12, there are many upstream projects in Launchpad13:52
beunowhich one are you refering to specifically?13:52
darius12well, a new one most likely13:52
darius12Let me tell you what I want to do exactly13:53
beunosure13:53
darius12I 'd like to help create debian/ubuntu packages for recent eclipse13:53
beunoso this is for packaging, not an upstream project?13:54
darius12yes, it is packaging13:54
darius12but it will take a little time before it is ready to be "official"13:54
beunoit sounds like you want to work with the MOTU's on this one13:54
beunoget them to review the pacakging, etc13:54
darius12it is not ready for that yet13:55
darius12we are building a community/team for this13:55
darius12and we need something to help with project management (a bug tracker)13:55
darius12There is a large number of small tasks that need to be done and we need a place to keep them13:56
darius12I was wondering if launchpad can be the answer to this13:56
* beuno hands off the question to BjornT and bac and goes on a call13:56
danilosdarius12: you should be able to create a project and host bugs in it14:24
darius12thanks, danilos :)14:26
danilosdarius12: actually, a team for trying out packaging might be good enough14:28
darius12danilos: how would bugs be filed then? (i.e., against what)14:29
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danilosdarius12: yeah, you'd need a project for that14:33
danilosdarius12: so, in general, if there is not already an existing project for that particular piece of software, you can create it14:33
darius12so, it is either an alioth project or a launchpad project (something like eclipse-package)14:34
darius12I 'll ask the rest of the team what they prefer, thanks :-)14:34
Rincheninteresting MTecknology15:03
MTecknologyRinchen: just thought it could be helpful15:07
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Rinchenping intellectronica15:33
intellectronicaRinchen: yo15:34
Rinchenah good, just checking to see if the bot was working.15:34
Rinchen;-)15:34
intellectronica:D15:34
RinchenI wonder if it's like a virus which transfers users daily. I wonder if danilos is a real person or a bot?15:35
intellectronicafwiw i know few real people of that height15:35
danilosRinchen: it's a bot15:36
danilosRinchen: btw, howdy15:37
danilosRinchen: are you back with us for a while? :)15:37
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thekornhi, I've an API related question once again ;)18:04
thekornwho is the owner of a task?18:04
thekornthe user who created this task? - and if so why does +apidoc say that bug_task.owner is writable?18:05
Ursinhathekorn, I guess it's the person who has the task assigned to himself18:06
thekornUrsinha, hmm, I think that's bug_task.assignee_link18:08
thekornlet me check18:08
thekornyes, bug_task.owner is equal to "Filed here by:" in the web UI18:11
beunouhm, then that shouldn't be writable...?18:12
thekornmaybe it's just a documentation issue,18:12
thekornchanging this value does not work18:13
thekorn(has no effect)18:13
beunothekorn, the docs are on the wiki, right?18:13
beunoit sounds like a bug to be filed or a wiki page to be edited18:13
thekornbeuno, no I'm referring to https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/18:13
thekornsection is bug_task, and there "owner"18:14
thekornsorry, owner_link18:14
beunothekorn, bug it is18:14
thekornhmm, owner is marked as "writeable" in all sections18:15
beunoleonardr, ping?18:16
leonardrbeuno, hi18:16
beunohi leonardr18:17
beunowe need an API guru18:17
beunodo you know anything about ^18:17
leonardryes, i'm responsible for the launchpad api18:20
leonardrfor the framework, that is. if you have questions about some specific part of it i can tell you who to talk t18:21
leonardro18:21
thekornleonardr, hi, the question was why owner_link is marked as "writeable" on https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/ nad if this is a bug, and if so, where should I report it?18:24
leonardrdo you know if it's actually writable?18:25
leonardralso, which owner_link are you talking about? many objects have an owner_link18:25
leonardrand in general i don't see why it shouldn't be writable18:25
thekornwell, b.bug_tasks[0].owner = launchpad.me works, but has no effect18:26
thekornhmm, owner is the one who e.g. created a task, why should this be changeable?18:27
thekornowner != assignee, afaik18:28
leonardrok18:28
leonardrin that case, i think it's a bug. file a bug against launchpad bugs18:29
thekornok, will do, thanks leonardr, beuno and Ursinha18:29
Ursinhathekorn, no problem, thanks for reporting us the bug18:30
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MvGHi! Someone from vcs-imports here willing to fix https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/vpnc/trunk ? See https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/54518 for details.18:59
Rinchenhi MvG19:01
RinchenI'll have a quick look19:01
MvGRinchen: Thanks!19:01
RinchenMvG, unfortunately I can't help with that one. That'll require mwhudson I think.19:03
MvGRinchen: Sad. Thanks for looking, though.19:03
RinchenMvG, yeah, it's the twisted error that gives it away19:04
rockstarMvG, hi.19:12
rockstarRinchen, I have a pretty good idea where that bug is, and am hoping to spend some time on it in this next cycle.19:13
Rinchenrockstar, awesome. I saw cscvs and I ran19:13
Rinchenfast19:13
Rinchen:-)19:13
rockstarRinchen, the twisted error is usually misleading, as there's an exception bubbling up, and eventually, Twisted accepts the blame.19:13
RinchenI'm glad you've taken the challenge with that program.19:13
Rinchenoh, how nice of it!19:13
rockstarRinchen, :)19:15
* MvG is back, been afk, sorry.19:15
MvGIs cscvs used to import svn as well, not only cvs. The name seems misleading there.19:17
rockstarMvG, yes.19:17
rockstarIt's wierd.19:17
MvGrockstar: Can you try a reimport, see if that solves it? Or import it locally or something?19:18
MvGTo rule out strange divergent changes to the repository.19:18
rockstarMvG, I think the issue stems from a svn merge.19:18
MvGrockstar: Can't rule that out, though I always thought a svn merge was like a normal editing modification with a bit of special metadata stored under some keyword.19:20
MvGGotta go for now, but i would be really happy if this got solved soon, or if I could read more details here in chat when I come back.19:21
rockstarMvG, well, cscvs currently chokes if you svn merge a revision that adds a file.19:21
thumperthekorn: re the API, did you remember to do the "object.save" or whatever the method is to have pending assignments?19:24
* thumper runs to drop of the girls at school19:25
thekornthumper, yes I ran bug.lp_save()19:25
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swe3tdaveFor those who were looking forward to the OpenID_Launchpad module for Drupal 6, i think i'm done porting it. If anyone want to test it, its in Bazaar: lp:~loco-drupal-dev/loco-drupal/drupal-6.x19:34
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MvGrockstar: Your opinion closely matches the answer on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/54518 whcih I had thought would only affect CVS, not SVN. I still don't completely get it, but am willing to accept it as a fact for now.19:38
Rinchensweet, swe3tdave.  I've pinged stu to let him know as well19:39
swe3tdaveRinchen, thx19:40
_Groo_hi/2 all..19:40
rockstarMvG, the answer you linked to was mine.  :)19:47
warrenis there a way to have a URL to bazaar.launchpad.net that goes to the latest version of a particular file?19:49
warrenhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/1009?file_id=dhcpdk12linux.conf-20080129180034-aiosbwg7a1bwv42c-1 for example I want to link from elsewhere so people can view the latest version of this file, but not this particular revision19:49
beunowarren, yes. Do you have a URL handy?19:49
beunowarren, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/annotate/head:?file_id=dhcpdk12linux.conf-20080129180034-aiosbwg7a1bwv42c-119:50
beunothe fix to make the links be constructed that way has landed in trunk19:50
beunobut hasn't been rolled out to Launchpad yet19:50
* beuno nudges mwhudson 19:50
kikowednesday19:51
mwhudsonis there a new loggerhead in RF yet?19:52
mwhudsoni haven't landed one19:52
beunomwhudson, there isn't. We need to get it there19:52
mwhudsoni guess it might be a bit late for this rollout?19:52
beunobut there have been quite a few changes, so I'd really prefer you do the merging and reviewing, since I'm still unclear on what can break or not  :)19:53
warrenbeuno: that URL you gave me is still of revision 100919:53
* mwhudson does a bzr missing19:53
beunowarren, isn't revision 1009 the latest?19:53
warrenbeuno: oh I see, thanks.19:54
beunowarren, :)19:54
mwhudsonoh, we really want trunk r252 in production!19:54
beunomwhudson, guess what19:54
beunoit already is19:55
mwhudsonoh19:55
beunothere where cowboys involved19:55
beunono luck19:55
beunowhich is still very weird to me19:55
beunosince it consistently drops memory usage for me19:55
beunoI haven't had any time to test it on the MySQL branch19:55
beunomy only remaining theory is that that branch is evil19:56
mwhudsondoes it make requests faster too?19:56
beunoyeap, it takes about 1/3rd of the time to process it19:57
beuno(very unscientificly measured)19:57
mwhudsoninteresting19:57
mwhudsonat the very least we should tweak the threadpool settings we use19:58
mwhudsonat the extreme, we could consider a different http server19:58
beunomwhudson, there was some talk with poolie about moving from threads to processes so memory issues would die with each thread19:58
mwhudsonyeah, that would make some sense19:58
beunobut that means either moving to not using the full revision graph, which I don't think we can easily do19:58
beunoor cache the revision graph19:58
beunowhich is sort-of doable, but I don't know what the performance impact of that is19:59
mwhudsonwell, we could compute the revision graph in the parent, /then/ fork, perhaps19:59
mwhudsonbut yeah -- difficulties19:59
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beunomwhudson, OTOH, if we do cache the revision graph on disk, we will have to hit bzr much less20:00
mwhudsonoh, you mean cache it in sqlite or something somehow?20:00
beunoI tried using some magic jam added to bzrlib to load the revnos lazily, but it just works with mainline revs20:01
beunoyeap, in sqlite20:01
beunoalthough it feels like regressing, maybe it's just the way to got for now20:01
mwhudsoni guess we should analyse what information we need from the revision graph, and how to represent it in sql20:05
rockstarmwhudson, yea, I was just thinking that.20:05
beunowell, initially, I was thinking that maybe we could just serialize it and stick it in the DB20:05
mwhudsona list of tuples of strings and integers isn't a super natural relational structure20:05
mwhudson(and somehow i doubt sqlite has WITH RECURSIVE yet)20:05
rockstarmwhudson, it does not.20:05
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LarstiQbeuno, mwhudson: bzr-svn also does some caching of course20:52
beunoLarstiQ, right. We've been playing with Loggerhead on top of bzr-svn during UDS with lifeless20:53
LarstiQok20:53
beunothe cache sometimes got in the way, but I believe lifeless filed all the relevant bugs and patches20:53
beunoit would be interesting to see how bzr-svn does it though...20:54
jelmerin 0.5, the cache can be turned off without any significant performance problems if you have enough bandwidth to the svn server20:54
krisivesUmm, I have an odd experience with using Launchpad21:07
krisivesI opened it up for the first time in a long while and it said I was logged in as somoene I am not21:07
krisivesThis is my personal notebook (not public in any way) and I've never owned the account I'm logged into21:08
krisivesWhat should I do?21:08
Rinchenkrisives, hi21:09
krisiveshi Rin21:09
Rinchenkrisives, can you PM me the destination link of the person link in the upper right hand corner please?21:10
Rinchenkrisives, I'd like to have that before you sign-out. It's odd that you would be logged in as someone else21:10
Rinchenflacoste, ^^21:11
flacosteRinchen: hmm, reuse of session identifier?21:12
flacosteif that's the case, krisives is very lucky21:12
Rinchenflacoste, my thoughts, yes.21:12
flacostegot a SHA1 collision21:12
flacosteeither we have too many users21:12
Rinchenlol21:12
krisivesIs this some PHP session 1 in a million stuff here?21:13
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Rinchenno php here :-)21:14
Rinchenzope, python, apache, openid21:15
krisivesoh, didnt know what LP was made in21:15
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Rinchenkrisives, sugar, spice, and everything nice....21:16
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mthaddonkrisives: can you confirm if you have a cookie from Launchpad?21:25
krisivesI can't21:25
krisivesI'm using Chrome since I was on windows21:25
krisivesno idea how to do that in Chrome21:25
pooliehello21:33
pooliekrisives: http://chromespot.com/showpost.php?s=2244eb1e7fd42d08bbf3bd3fc1213320&p=3182&postcount=521:34
krisivesty, reading21:35
krisivesThanks poolie worked like a charm21:36
krisivesno cookies other than for help.launchpad.net MOIN_SESSION, which appears to be unrelated21:37
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mthaddonkrisives: thx, we're looking into it21:48
mthaddonkrisives: we've disabled the caching til we can figure out what the issue was, so you shouldn't see this issue any more22:10
* Hobbsee shakes head at this contact form.22:14
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wgrantHobbsee: Do you need to add somebody to ~ubuntumembers?22:24
wgrantAnyway, that feature is now disabled for teams unless you're already a member.22:25
Hobbseewgrant: yeah.  so i wasn't the only one who got that mail.22:25
* Hobbsee wonders if that went to all the members on ~ubuntumembers22:26
wgrantProbably.22:26
Hobbseenasty.22:29
HobbseeI did ponder a response back of "You fail.  Go away" or something for it.22:29
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