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DanaGOdd... Linux thinks my Intel 5300agn card is a 5100 card.02:44
DanaGI suppose I should file a bug report about the odd interaction (or lack thereof) between the mute button on my laptop, and ALSA.04:17
NoelJBDanaG: probably ... what problem?  WFM, FWIW.04:19
DanaGHP EliteBook 8530w.  The mute hotkey is not a standard button -- it's a "QuickTouch" button.04:19
NoelJBSimilar to the mute button on my Thinkpad?04:20
DanaGI'm not sure.04:20
DanaGOn mine, some of the hotkeys have to go through the hp-wmi module.04:20
NoelJBI have dedicated buttons for mute, volup, voldown.04:20
DanaGIn hardware, it's a similar sort of thing -- but I don't know how similar or different it is in software.04:21
DanaGIn addition, the fn-escape shortcut on my laptop sends keycode 465... which Xorg "can't handle" (that's the message it gives me).04:21
NoelJBDanaG: I'd expect that it would come in via ACPI.04:28
NoelJBalthough perhaps not for mute.04:30
DanaGOddly enough, the keys are actually not ACPI events.  Instead, they're a virtual input device.04:34
DanaGWith showkey... they give keycodes, but not scancodes.04:35
NoelJBok04:35
pengois there a good repo that has more recent stuff than the stock standard intrepid repo?04:40
pengoe.g. vuze, blender..04:40
NoelJBintrepid is supported in #ubuntu04:41
pengoyeah but they don't help :/04:42
Volkodavis there a way to upgrade via synaptic to Jaunty?04:43
NoelJBpengo: vuze is in universe according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/vuze04:43
VolkodavI am getting this error http://pastebin.com/m125dc6c604:44
pengoNoelJB: yeah but i want a newer version.. they're up to v4 now04:44
NoelJBVolkodav: pengo I know.  I run v4 myself.  Install it manually.04:45
pengoNoelJB: hmm... so i should just install newer stuff manually?04:45
VolkodavNoelJB, install what manually?04:46
NoelJBpengo: That all depends.04:46
NoelJBVolkodav: talking to pengo about vuze.04:46
NoelJBalthough we really should move this to #ubuntu.  doesn't belong here.04:46
Volkodavoh04:46
pengook04:46
Volkodavany idea what's wrong with the script04:47
NoelJBVolkodav: not a clue.  I do clean installs.04:47
NoelJBVolkodav: seems to be complaining about connections.04:48
Volkodavand d-bus too04:48
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DanaGHeh, I just put on headphones and cranked my input volume on the array mic way up... and wow, it sounds rather interesting.  I can even hear the sounds of the backlight inverter.09:04
DanaGArray microphones are cool.09:05
DanaGSome experiment I'm going to try: insert canalphones (those earplug-like headphones), and see if I can localize sounds as well from the array mic as I can from my own two ears.09:05
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prahal_could at-spi in jaunty work without xevie (as it was removed from the xserver) ? I need at-spi registy for gnome-voice-control (nothing citical though as I understood at-spi is mportant for other uses13:16
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BUGabundo_work1how do I run gnome-do with debug symbols from gdb?14:22
BUGabundo_work1I already install it, but cant start it14:22
BUGabundo_work1gdb gnome-do says: "/usr/bin/gnome-do not in executable format14:22
eagles0513875where can i get the iso for jaunty so i can help test it out14:58
IdleOnecdimages.ubuntu.com IIRC15:00
eagles0513875ty IdleOne15:00
eagles0513875IdleOne this is the right place im looking right http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-1/15:02
IdleOneyup15:02
IdleOneno Live cd at the momment15:02
IdleOneuse alternate cd15:03
eagles0513875thats fine gonna be setting it up on a vm15:03
IdleOnewell then you got it15:03
eagles0513875:)ty15:03
eagles0513875IdleOne i know this probably isnt the place to ask this but i have been using apt-build extensivley and i would like to work with the developer on improving it what woudl be the best way to go abotu it15:04
IdleOne#ubuntu-dev might be more help15:05
IdleOnethey can guide you in the right direction15:06
eagles0513875been baned from there till after jaunty15:06
IdleOnehahah15:07
IdleOnewell then ummm15:07
IdleOnelaunchpad.net look for the package and join the team I guess15:08
eagles0513875ok15:08
IdleOnereally not sure15:08
eagles0513875havent found a team i guess ill just wait15:09
eagles0513875hows jaunty looking so far in alpha15:15
IdleOneeagles0513875, see if you can talk to blueyed about apt-build he might be able to help you15:16
IdleOnehttps://launchpad.net/~blueyed15:17
IdleOneI'm done doing research now :P15:17
eagles0513875IdleOne :)15:18
eagles0513875ty15:18
IdleOnenp15:18
eagles0513875hows jaunty looking in alpha15:18
IdleOnedon't know I have not tested it yet15:18
IdleOneI normally wait till alpha 3 and upgrade15:18
IdleOneby then things are pretty stable15:19
eagles0513875dont try in a vm15:19
eagles0513875you dont try it on a vm?15:20
IdleOnemy machine is to slow and makes it very disappointing15:22
IdleOneso I don't bother15:22
eagles0513875:( ouchie15:22
eagles0513875your on intrepid right15:22
IdleOneyeah15:22
eagles0513875i want to see if you get the same issue as me but do u have a spare machine you can boot off the live cd and see if it load busybox initramfs prompt for ya cuz for me thats what it keeps doing even ater turing acpi and all that stuff off15:23
IdleOnesorry I don't15:24
eagles0513875if this is a bug i would like to see it caught before next release15:25
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eagles0513875anyone else having an issue after choosing a method of how to update your system15:47
eagles0513875im having issues at the part where the installer is trying to install the necessary software16:15
eagles0513875it keeps failling for some reason :(16:16
IdleOnereporta bug on the debian installer. as per the cdimages.ubuntu.com page says16:53
eagles0513875IdleOne ok17:08
eagles0513875IdleOne do the cd images get rebuilt every night17:09
derekshi guys, when do you anticipate the 64bit java applet making it to jaunty?17:10
eagles0513875IdleOne filed :)17:15
eagles0513875IdleOne this problem was fixed in intrepid but now seems to have resurfaced in jaunty alpha117:15
eagles0513875omg michael is being a total bitch in the other channel17:27
Picieagles0513875: Please don't.  This is still a support channel.17:28
eagles0513875Pici sry17:29
eagles0513875got my offtopic channel confused wiht this one17:29
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IdleOneeagles0513875, regressions happen in alpha releases it will probably get fixed soon. Please remember that in ALL Ubuntu channels support and non the Ubuntu CoC must be followed17:46
IdleOnealthough some slight bending of rules are allowed in some channels but I would still suggest you follow the CoC just to make sure :)17:47
eagles0513875IdleOne :) thanks for the reminder17:58
NoelJBJust checking ... is it expected that we have around 40 packages kept back at the moment?  Yes, yes.  I could do a dist-upgrade, but then things that ought not be removed want to be.  Looks like X and update-manager-core.  Just a sanity check question.18:00
mahfiazhi, do any of you suffer pulseaudio buffer underrun problems which trigger rewind and nasty jump in sound?18:22
mahfiazD: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.18:26
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.18:26
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 504 bytes.18:26
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 12618:26
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 12618:26
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 504 bytes.18:26
mahfiazD: sink.c: Processing rewind...18:26
mahfiazD: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 504 bytes on render memblockq.18:26
eagles0513875hi LjL18:27
x1250mahfiaz, do you hear "clicks" in sound?18:53
mahfiazx1250, not only clicks, but some sound will be jumped over18:56
mahfiazso songs play actually a little shorter18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: latency set to 23,22ms18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused_frames=1536118:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=1589018:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 61748 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 1543718:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 1543718:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 61748 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: sink.c: Processing rewind...18:57
mahfiazD: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 61748 bytes on render memblockq.18:57
mahfiazD: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Limited to 504 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: before: 12618:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: after: 12618:57
mahfiazD: module-alsa-sink.c: Rewound 504 bytes.18:57
mahfiazD: sink.c: Processing rewind...18:57
mahfiazD: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 504 bytes on render memblockq.18:57
mahfiazI: module-alsa-sink.c: Underrun!18:57
mahfiazthe pulseaudio claims this is because of latency change18:57
x1250mahfiaz, try to use paste.ubuntu.com to paste stuff.18:58
mahfiazok, there it will be easier to read18:58
x1250mahfiaz, you can disable pulseaudio if you want, in gnome-session add: pulseaudio -k18:59
x1250of test it in console first, see if your problems are gone with that18:59
x1250$ pulseaudio -k, will kill it.18:59
calcanyone know how to get facebook support in pidgin? aiui it supports it and the screenshot on pidgin.im shows it but i can't find how to enable it in 2.5.219:04
mahfiazcalc, apt-cache search facebook19:05
x1250calc, you must create a new account, and select facebook19:06
calcx1250: i tried to i don't see the option19:06
calcx1250: already made one for myspaceim19:06
calcx1250: is it supposed to be called 'facebook'?19:06
mahfiazx1250, can't say now, i probably would have to log off, I ran pulseaudio by hand19:07
mahfiazcalc, no run the command I gave, you will get:19:07
mahfiazpidgin-facebookchat - Facebook Chat plugin for Pidgin19:07
calcmahfiaz: ah ok19:07
x1250calc, yes, the protocol is named Facebook, but you must install the plugin mahfiaz said19:08
calcx1250: ok19:08
GodKilla-hey all19:10
GodKilla-im having problems setting up the internet on a daily image installed 2 days ago19:10
x1250mahfiaz, pulseaudio -k will work instantly, but you must restart the program which was using pulseaudio for sound19:11
GodKilla-*kubuntu19:11
x1250like totem, or any other19:11
GodKilla-that knetwork manager doesnt have an use atl all19:11
GodKilla-and using ifconfig i can set it up so i can ping my own ip and my gateway19:11
GodKilla-but everything else returns "network is unreachable"19:11
mahfiazGodKilla, if you want to do it the command line way, then after setting ip19:13
mahfiazroute add default gw 192.168.1.119:13
mahfiazor whatever your router is19:13
mahfiazand add nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf19:14
GodKilla-did the last one19:14
GodKilla-route add default returns "unknown host default" or something alike19:14
x1250mahfiaz, I had the some random clicks myself on audio, but disabling pulseaudio in gnome-session made all problems go away.19:15
mahfiazGodKilla, this ip has to be in the same subnet as your own ip19:16
GodKilla-i dont have a router, i have ethernet card connected to my modem and thats all19:17
GodKilla-under windos dhcp works fine, under linux (whatever distro) it sometimes works, sometimes no19:17
mahfiazGodKilla, actually I would use dhclient eth0 instead19:17
GodKilla-tried that "no OFFERS received"19:18
mahfiazthen this is router or NIC problem, I suppose19:19
GodKilla-im on that same machine now, only under win19:20
GodKilla-the inet works fine here19:20
GodKilla-another thing is, why doesnt it save any network configs i do?19:23
GodKilla-and, whats the use of manual ip config knetworkmanagers offers, it doesnt do any changes19:23
mahfiazand why networkmanager messes up wep keys?19:24
burner_so is x in transition right now?  I noticed a dist-upgrade is going to remove nvidia-glx-177 so i've been holding off19:24
GodKilla-how to check which version of ubuntu ive installed?19:25
GodKilla-uname?19:25
x1250GodKilla-, $ lsb_release -a19:26
GodKilla-thanks19:26
GodKilla-alright ill try messing with the routing table :s19:27
mahfiazburner, it seems like I have got nvidia-173-kernel-source pack instead19:27
burner_mahfiaz: does a dist-upgrade ask you to remove it?19:27
mahfiazI have dist-upgraded already, cannot say, I had a little mess and was to run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" after reboot, but not sure if it wasn't my fault19:28
mahfiazjust see if the nvidia*source package is in list of to be installed packages19:29
* burner_ is tempted to try out nouveau19:30
burner_phoronix has a post about the X changes to 9.04 today19:30
x1250a full upgrade attempts to remove a lot of xorg drivers. I would run a $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade19:31
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x1250mahfiaz, changing the inkscape package name is a good idea, thanks. I'll probably name it inkscape-svn for the next build.20:18
mahfiazx1250, then you have to use some appropriate --prefix20:19
mahfiazbecause packages cannot have conflicting files20:20
mahfiazmaybe use --prefix=/opt/inkscape-svn20:20
x1250uhm, yep, thanks for the tip :)20:21
tretlecan anyone tell me whether package kit was discussed at uds?21:22
ikoniatretle: package kit ? got any more details ?22:03
cbrhi, the new xserver FTBFS @ buildd because libdrm-dev tries to overwrite something that's also in linux-libc-dev22:03
cbrin the i386 arch22:04
tretlewell whether it will be included in jaunty or jaunty+1 as default..... its coming along really nicely, the codec manager for instancecommunicates directly with gstreamer so gstreamer enabled apps support it without having to add support per app22:05
ikoniacbr: what do you mean it trys to overwrite22:06
tretlefirefox for instance told me that I didnt have the right codecs installed and asked me if I wanted to install gstreamer-extras, banshee also had support for codec installation through packagekit-gstreamer backend22:06
ikoniacbr: it should be pre-pacakged so shouldn't overwrite anything22:06
ikoniatretle: sounds interesting sounds like I need to have a look at it22:06
cbrikonia: well, the log says that the buildd tries to install libdrm, which then tries to overwrite drm.h somewhere in /usr/include/drm22:07
cbrand that's not allowed22:07
cbrso installing the builddep fails22:07
cbrand the build fails22:07
ikoniacbr: so your trying to build this yourself ?22:08
tretleikonia - the package that comes with intrepid is seriously out of date22:08
cbrno, i'm looking at a build log of palmer22:08
cbrthe i386 buildd22:08
ikoniacbr: ah22:08
ikoniatretle: I've not looked at it so wouldn't know22:08
cbrso i'm a bit concerned about that22:12
cbrbecause it's supposed to fix a segfault bug :p22:12
ikoniamaybe worth reporting the bug then22:13
ikoniabetter to catch it as early as possible22:13
cbrwell, i would, i kind of only have links2 as a browser though :p22:14
jacobikonia: two packages cannot 'own' the same file. the FTBFS problem here is that this is happening and the builders aren't letting it continue.22:22
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jacobsorry, ignore that.22:22
jacoblost my scrollback. :P22:22
ikonia;)22:23

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