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seaqso when the move is to fix released, is when the bug was actually worked...00:01
mok0grrr, I have a simple problem that annoys me. How do I open up a series specific sub-bug? (see e.g. bug 201123)00:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 201123 in gnome-subtitles "gnome-subtitles crashes on create new subtitle" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/20112300:02
bdmurraymok0: so another task like the Hardy one?00:07
mok0bdmurray: yes00:07
bdmurraymok0: you want "Target to release" underneath the task table00:07
mok0bdmurray: Huh? I don't have that00:08
seaqNominate to release00:08
bdmurraymok0: is nominate for release there?00:08
mok0bdmurray: yes00:08
bdmurraymok0: let's try that then00:09
mok0That just writes a line below the table00:09
mok0"Nominated for xxxxx by Morten etc"00:09
LaserJockmok0: right, somebody needs to then approve the nomination00:10
mok0LaserJock: ... and only then you get that series target?00:10
LaserJockmok0: yep00:10
bdmurraymok0: I'll approve it00:11
mok0bdmurray: I'm not working on that bug, it was just an illustration00:11
bdmurrayah, okay00:11
mok0So I nominate, and then approve it?00:12
LaserJockI think a core-dev needs to approve nominations00:12
mok0LaserJock: yeah, but probably not for universe?00:13
LaserJockmok0: I think for universe too00:13
LaserJockmok0: as gnome-subtitles is in Universe and you couldn't do it00:13
mok0LaserJock: Oh, I didn't want to fool around with that bug, so I didn't try00:13
LaserJockah00:14
Hobbseeah, nominations are fun.00:14
bdmurraymok0: you could try it on staging.launchpad.net00:14
bdmurrayto test and see if you have the permissions00:14
mok0bdmurray: yes, I will go play with it there00:14
LaserJockit would be just lovely to have a list of bug permissions and who holds those permissions00:14
mok0LaserJock: hear!00:15
Hobbseeeven the qa team can nominate for release, without approval.00:15
Hobbseeand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting#Untargeting%20bugs explains how to untarget00:15
mok0thanks Hobbsee, will take a look. The LP interface is not always transparent00:16
LaserJockHobbsee: ubuntu-bugcontrl?00:16
Hobbseehrm.  that's wrong.00:16
Hobbseeor at least, doesn't work for this bug.00:16
Hobbseemok0: no, it isn't :(00:16
HobbseeLaserJock: i'd guess ubuntu-quality00:16
Hobbseejust for kicks, note https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/30726900:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307269 in Ubuntu Jaunty "Bug tasks nominations can be accepted and declined simultaneously" [Undecided,Invalid]00:16
LaserJockHobbsee: there is no ubuntu-quality team00:17
Hobbseethere was00:18
Hobbseeor is that the one that got renamed to -bugcontrol?00:18
LaserJockI think so00:18
LaserJockhard to remember00:18
LaserJockHobbsee: but I thought you at *least* had to have upload permission to be able to approve nominations00:19
Hobbseeso did i, prior to last week00:19
LaserJockbah00:19
Hobbseebut -bugcontrol (at least) can definetly do it00:19
bdmurrayI believe bugcontrol can set milestones and only uploaders can approve nominations.00:20
Hobbseebdmurray: that's not correct.  note the above bug for proof :(00:22
bdmurrayHobbsee: I'm not seeing the proof there00:24
Hobbseeunless ~canonical-qa can00:24
bdmurrayyes, it can00:24
Hobbsee Declined  for Gutsy  by Steve Beattie   (approve)00:25
Hobbseeand he put in the lower three00:25
bdmurrayand actually it's ubuntu-drivers that canonical-qa is a member of00:25
Hobbseeoh, well then....00:25
Hobbseefair enough, then.00:25
Hobbseeso, people who work for canonical, but don't have upload powers, can still approve nominations.  mere mortals who don't have upload powers can't.00:26
* Hobbsee wonders why ~canonical-qa is in ubuntu-drivers00:26
bdmurrayTo help out with managing nominations00:27
LaserJockbut shouldn't that be done via normal means?00:28
Hobbseeso why don't -bugcontrol also get that?00:28
Hobbseeif equality is a thing to be strived for, and such00:28
bdmurrayBecause the 'Driver' in Ubuntu can do a lot more than just that00:29
* Hobbsee wonders if 'drivers' has been quantified anywhere, or just means "important canonical people who have power over ubuntu in launchpad"00:30
LaserJockwell, the team description on LP is "This team needs a rethink after a discussion about privilege levels in Launchpad"00:31
LaserJockI guess it's a landing place for being able to tweak LP for people who don't already have such privileges00:31
LaserJocknotice that UDS-organizers are in there00:32
LaserJockso if I were organizing a UDS I could also nominate bugs :-)00:32
bdmurrayThe Driver role can also modify the distribution in Launchpad00:32
LaserJocks/nominate/approve nominations in/00:32
Palintheuscan I get bug 154245 marked as wishlist?00:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 154245 in ubiquity "Finding updates upon install is irritating!!!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15424500:40
Hobbseethat probably should be marked as wontfix.00:43
Hobbseeit's not feasible to completely reroll cds and test them each time there's an update00:43
Hobbseeand there are point releases for the LTS releases, to help with that.00:44
HobbseePalintheus: ^00:44
PalintheusI think they are asking for a skip button, let me reread00:44
Palintheusyeah.. "There should be a "skip this step..." button there with the following text: You can update your system after reboot..."00:44
Palintheusunless I'm misunderstanding something00:44
Hobbseeoh, i stopped reading after the first paragraph00:45
* charlie-tca thinks unplug the ethernet cable would work00:45
* Hobbsee pokes it00:45
Palintheuscharlie-tca: probably, but a hassle when there could be an option00:46
charlie-tcait is a WorkAround, though00:47
* Palintheus nods00:47
mok0On staging, it seems I can nominate/approve packages in universe, but not in main.01:18
mok0In main, I can only nominate01:18
mok0In universe, it is immediately approved01:18
LaserJockwent home and got two more invalidated bugs :(01:38
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crimsunLaserJock: i can hand you my pile of bugs if you'd like.01:43
Palintheuswould this one be marked invalid...I don't see how it differing from Windows is a problem, bug 30518701:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 305187 in firefox-3.0 "The linux edition's input box is wider than the windows edition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30518701:46
crimsunPalintheus: imo, yes, but it'd be nice to have screenshots from within windows and ubuntu.01:48
Palintheusgotcha, so best bet is to ask for screenshots and mark it incomplete01:48
hggdhPalintheus, correct.01:49
crimsuni.e., similar look n' feel within reason can be expected, but fairly minor differences that could depend on dpi don't normally constitute bugs in applications.01:50
Palintheusok so it's reasonable to ask them to take screenshots on a desktop with the same resolution, and settings within firefox?01:51
crimsunif you wish to go the extra mile, yes :)01:51
MTecknologyWhat is 5 a Day?01:53
bcurtiswxhey, have any of you tried mumbles?01:54
PalintheusMTecknology: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day/01:55
MTecknologyI moreso meant, what's the application it uses for?01:58
MTecknologyjust a way to track what bugs people are working on?01:58
Palintheushttp://daniel.holba.ch/5-a-day-stats/01:58
Palintheusbragging rights :)01:58
andresmujica:)01:59
MTecknologyI need to get back on triaging after finals02:01
bcurtiswxbug #277924 i've been waiting for some actions on02:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 277924 in linux "kernel cannot find map file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27792402:02
bcurtiswxanyone mind taking a look02:02
MTecknologybcurtiswx: it looks plenty active...02:06
charlie-tcaStill doesn't seem to have enough to tell a developer how to fix02:07
charlie-tcaWhat impact does the missing map file have on the system?02:08
MTecknologybcurtiswx: ^02:10
andresmujicaalmost none....02:10
andresmujicahttp://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsug-bangalore/2005-June/000384.html02:10
andresmujicaat least not a critical one.02:10
Ryan52bdmurray, thanks :)02:12
bcurtiswxyeah no problems, but you'd think that shouldn't be there02:12
bcurtiswxmaybe a low priority at least02:12
bcurtiswxand idk what devs would need in this case02:12
andresmujicahttp://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.setup/2005-07/0103.html02:12
MTecknologya package for one02:12
MTecknologyand some hardware specs from everybody02:13
andresmujicai believe that file is created during depmod process.. maybe it's failing...02:13
LaserJockcrimsun: no thanks you can keep your bugs. I guess I just need to get on top of mine :-)02:13
andresmujicahey, what happened to the incomplete -> invalid move requirements?02:16
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dholbachgood morning06:54
thekorngood morning bugsquad!07:28
MTecknologythekorn: hi07:32
MTecknologythe bugsquad isn't that horribly special, is it?07:32
hggdhMTecknology, what do you mean?07:45
MTecknologyhggdh: anybody can join it and I wonder how many people join it and just forget about it07:45
hggdha lot...07:45
hggdhthis expected07:46
MTecknologyI applied for the bug control team and I feel I could contribute, onve finals are over - but I don't expect to make it in07:46
hggdhwhy not?07:47
hggdhI know you applied, but I (for one) did not have much available time lately to answer it07:47
hggdhperhaps *now* is a good time...07:47
MTecknologysomewhere along the line a lot of the bugs I've worked on were lost. I think it happened when I changed my email07:48
hggdhit should not happen, only if you changed you handle07:48
hggdhon LP07:48
MTecknologyI don't remember doing that07:48
MTecknologyhggdh: so you're one of the guys that can approve it?07:49
MTecknologyI'm excited for finals to be over so I can starthitting bugs agian07:49
hggdhyes. Any member of bug-control can chirp in on requests -- +1 or -107:50
MTecknologyoh07:50
MTecknologywanna look at my request and tell me what you think?07:50
hggdhas long as you tell me what email you used ;-)07:51
MTecknologymichael - profarius - com07:52
hggdhgot it... missed a c on tecknology07:52
hggdhk07:53
hggdhstacktrace.txt -- it is .txt cuz it is a text file. Could be .list as well07:53
hggdhcoredumps are also usual repositories for private data07:53
hggdhhuh07:54
MTecknologyI've never encountered any to look into them07:54
MTecknologyhuh??07:54
hggdhMTecknology, you *must* give us a sample of the bugs you worked on07:54
MTecknologyI did07:54
MTecknologyI submitted a second app07:55
hggdhah07:55
hggdhlemme go back to search07:55
MTecknologythat's from when I was having troubles with not finding them from earlier07:55
hggdhk, got it07:56
thekornhi MTecknology and hggdh08:05
hggdhcheers thekorn08:06
thekornand dholbach_ ;)08:06
hggdhand dholbach_08:06
hggdh:-)08:06
dholbach_hi thekorn, hi hggdh08:06
thekornhehe08:06
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MTecknologythekorn: hi08:06
hggdhMTecknology, wow, the first two are a real novella08:06
MTecknologysorry08:07
hggdhbug 173652 mostly08:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 173652 in xbacklight "Unable to adjust screen brightness on recent Sony Vaio notebooks, Intel GMA adapter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17365208:07
hggdhbut I see you learned a lot there08:07
MTecknologyoh, you mean the thing got really drawn out?08:07
hggdhyes08:07
MTecknologyya, that's still going on08:07
MTecknologybut at least there's improvement08:08
MTecknologyI need to revisit the motion eye one08:08
hggdhheh08:08
hggdhyou *can change importance, can you not?08:08
MTecknologyI noticed the site the code was on isn't around anymore08:08
* hggdh does not remember anymore08:08
MTecknologynope08:08
MTecknologycan't set triaged or importance08:09
MTecknologyI love ubuntu surverys, I just with the back/next buttons were on the left side, closer the where you answer08:09
MTecknologyhggdh: what do you think so far?08:12
hggdhjust got through #1 -- not really a triager work when it started, but I can see you learning. So far so good08:13
hggdh#2 is bis repetita from #1. I guess you copied the wrong link08:14
MTecknologyhrm...08:14
MTecknologywhat's the link?08:14
MTecknologyor did I mention those two together?08:14
hggdh[#2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/17365208:15
hggdh>08:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 173652 in xbacklight "Unable to adjust screen brightness on recent Sony Vaio notebooks, Intel GMA adapter" [Undecided,New]08:15
MTecknologybis repetita?08:15
hggdhthe same thing08:16
hggdhagain08:16
hggdh(that's the meaning)08:16
MTecknologyoh08:17
hggdhgood ol' Latin ;-)08:17
MTecknology:P08:17
MTecknologyYou mean your summary of it comes out to about the same?08:17
hggdhno I mean it is the exact same bug you talked about on #1-- the novella08:18
MTecknologyoh08:19
MTecknology...08:19
MTecknologylemme finish something up and I'll check08:19
hggdhOK. what do you want to do with bugs 301830 and 30099708:20
hggdh?08:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 301830 in ubuntu-website "PageList Style Formatting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30183008:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 300997 in ubuntu-website "monthcalendar on ubuntu wikis - unattractive brown/red colours" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30099708:20
MTecknologyI'd like to get the correct source to the modules and modify it so it offers a different theme08:22
MTecknologyfar as triage status, there's not much else it can be set to until somebody starts working, even then it's a low priority thing08:23
hggdhk. Is ubuntu-website the correct package?08:23
MTecknologyno08:23
MTecknologyI think it should be moin08:23
MTecknologysince it's the ubuntu wiki08:24
hggdhhum. Moin is the "product" used, but not the implementation08:24
MTecknologyUnless there's a package name for the wiki then, that should be right08:25
MTecknologyright?08:25
hggdhI think so.08:25
MTecknologymoin would be if there's a code base error that isn't specifically related to the ubuntu implimentation...08:26
hggdhnot necessarily... since *we* do not have access to the source for the wiki, only the canonical folks would be able to correctly set it08:27
MTecknologyI would like to get the code to it so I could at least work on changing it up some over christmas break08:27
hggdhbut the wiki says this: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/contactus08:28
MTecknologyThe "Web Feedback" part?08:28
hggdhhah, got it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website08:29
hggdhand it's the right pakage indeed.08:30
MTecknologyand a heads up for me to pop into the channel later08:30
MTecknologyLittle too late now08:32
MTecknology02:30 now and I have a final exam at 08:0008:33
hggdhgood, you were able to read between the lines ;-)08:33
hggdhgo to bed, man. It is enough to have one insonniac08:33
MTecknology:P08:33
MTecknologyI wanna know what you think first08:33
* hggdh is the one, right now08:33
MTecknologyI'm running through some questions now08:34
hggdhso far, so good08:34
MTecknology!jaunty08:35
ubottuJaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion.08:35
MTecknologywow - winehq got a makeover08:37
MTecknologyI'll nap when I get to the top of this list08:40
hggdh:-)08:40
hggdhgo to bed. I am still looking at your bugs. I will email you & the list with my take08:40
MTecknologythanks :)08:41
MTecknologybut still not listening08:41
* MTecknology lolz to self at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/5459008:45
MTecknologybut all issues must be treated with coureousy (late night spelling)08:45
hggdhMTecknology, there is one thing important on your list -- you should show bugs opened by others, not you. By definition, we are tainted to discuss our own bugs08:50
MTecknologyoh08:50
MTecknologyI misunderstood that, sorry08:51
MTecknologyprobably just read it to fast08:51
hggdhno problem... but may I suggest you try again?08:51
hggdhthe point is we are trying to measure your ability to triage, not your ability to open good bugs08:52
MTecknologyI could later, I'll probably just try to find new ones to attend to08:52
MTecknologywhen I find time... :(08:52
MTecknologyUsually when I look for trying to help other people with radnom issues I look to questions08:53
hggdhMTecknology, please do not get it as a personal thing08:53
MTecknologynope, not at all08:53
MTecknologyDid you finish looking over them all?08:54
hggdhI am at the last one now. But a good chunk of them are your own bugs08:54
hggdhI can see (as I already said, er, wrote) you are learning, but -- they are your own bugs.... :-/08:55
MTecknologyI had it in my head that's what was being requested, reading it again, idk why08:56
hggdhBTW, it was a good answer08:56
MTecknologyDoe the one where I suggested a priority and it was changed count?08:56
hggdhperhaps it is not well explained08:56
hggdhit does count08:56
hggdhbut we will still need other sample bugs to look at08:57
MTecknologyok08:57
MTecknologythat's a -1 from you then?08:58
MTecknologyif you decided based on that?08:58
MTecknologyWhen I resubmit, shouls I include those bugs, or just do fresh?08:58
hggdhMTecknology, yes, it is a -1 on technicality08:59
hggdhyou can include them -- as long they are not yours ;-)09:00
hggdhbut please do try again. I am sorry about that... but we have to be fair09:00
MTecknologyyup09:02
MTecknologyI appreciate your review09:02
MTecknologyIt's like my Ubuntu Member application09:02
MTecknologyI tried, failed09:02
MTecknologybut now I know more about what I need to do to make the cut09:03
hggdhheh... well, look at me... I *never* tried to be a member, I am sure they will shoot me down09:03
MTecknologyThis is a good response? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5460909:03
hggdhOTH, I will need to get out of the closet and disclose my name also09:03
* MTecknology <-- Michael Lustfield09:04
MTecknologybday: Jan 07, 199809:04
MTecknology1988*09:04
MTecknology180lb; 5'10"09:04
MTecknology:P09:05
* hggdh <- hggdh, a.k.a. haggadah09:05
hggdhbday: long ago09:05
hggdh186lb, 5'1'', was 6' once09:06
MTecknologyIf I make into into the bug control team AND get my LoCo up and running good enough, I'll probably make member pretty easily09:06
hggdh5'11''09:06
MTecknologybut neither of those will probably be easy09:06
MTecknologyespecially the LoCo part09:06
MTecknologyI have the infrastructure in place, but not the interest - this state is kinda... dry09:07
hggdhwhat state is this?09:07
MTecknologysouth dakota09:07
hggdhoh09:07
MTecknologysdloco.profarius.com09:07
MTecknologymy site09:07
hggdhon the answer: I would also ask what version the reporter downloaded09:08
MTecknologyI rewrote every single line and did 99.9% of that work from scratch09:08
hggdhgood.09:08
hggdhthis type of work does count a lot09:08
MTecknologyreally??09:09
MTecknologyquestions count??09:09
hggdhno, the loco09:09
MTecknologyoh09:09
MTecknologynot for the bug control team though09:09
hggdhquestions help YOU learn -- even when you answer.09:09
MTecknologyI was confused :P09:09
hggdhno, not for b-c09:09
hggdhbut it is an extremely good training on triaging09:10
MTecknologylol... changing that question09:10
MTecknologylittle more appropriate :P09:10
MTecknologyhggdh: From all of that, do you think I've put a decent amount of work into Ubuntu>09:11
MTecknology?*09:11
hggdhyes09:11
hggdhno doubt09:11
MTecknologyany chance you would say something about me on my wiki?09:11
hggdhyou are trying, and you keep trying. And you are learning09:11
hggdhI can, but -- who am I here? a small volunteer, unknown almost everywhere.09:12
MTecknologyso?09:12
MTecknologyas long as what you say has value behind it, it should be just fine09:12
hggdhit would be good -- in terms of promoting the LOCO effort -- to get the big guns09:12
MTecknologywhat big guns?09:13
hggdhthe known names with Ubuntu09:13
MTecknologyIn case you didn't and to search https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MTecknology09:13
MTecknologyI've been communicating with a few people about getting things going09:14
MTecknologypeople like Flannel, pleia2, tyche, tonyyarusso, etc09:14
MTecknology'tis late though09:15
MTecknologymy fingers are blurring my words :P09:15
hggdhhah. So you have a server called kabalah09:16
MTecknologys/b/bb/09:16
MTecknologyya09:16
MTecknologywasn't my name, the server i named was vindico09:16
hggdhit sort of goes with haggadah... same language09:16
hggdhbut that is a long story09:16
MTecknologytoo late for me to hear now :P09:17
MTecknologywhat time is it there?09:17
hggdh(although only theologically related)09:17
hggdhhere -- NC -- 031509:17
hggdhin a cold hotel room09:17
MTecknologysame time09:18
hggdhoh, sorry, I forgot to change my TZ09:18
hggdhit is actually 041509:18
MTecknologyi gotta get up in 4hr though, it's my beddy by time :P09:18
MTecknologyoh09:18
hggdhI guess I completely gave up sleeping tonight :-(09:19
MTecknologythanks for the review, I'll keep those things in mind when I start building up a new list from scratch.09:19
MTecknology:P09:19
hggdhthank you. We *do* appreciate your help09:19
MTecknologyI'll appreciate my help too eventually ;)09:20
hggdhheh09:20
MTecknologyWhen you do put something on my Wiki, just mention you're in the bug control team, that pretty much makes whatever you say worth something09:20
hggdhOK.09:21
hggdhWilco09:21
MTecknologyg'night09:22
MTecknologyor mornin;09:22
MTecknologyeither way, I'm going to bug you again09:22
hggdhg'night/morning/whatever09:23
hggdhI will be here09:23
MTecknologycould you send me a blank copy of the application?09:23
hggdhI will try to find it. I *know* where it is, but my brain is slightly fried right now09:23
hggdhand I will send it to you09:23
MTecknologyalrighty, I'll save the copy this time...09:24
MTecknologythanks09:24
MTecknologyg'night09:24
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imachinetseliot, Hi12:53
imachinetseliot, would you mind helping sorting out a nasty nvidia bug with 8,10 ?12:54
imachineit seems you're the only person recommended about here for fixing this issue and nailing the bug properly12:54
imachinetseliot, dkms doen12:59
imachinedoesn't build the driver properly.12:59
tseliotimachine: which driver?13:20
affluxare there any reasons why we would keep feisty bugs open?13:30
affluxor rather, any objections to me closing them? ;)13:31
affluxoh. nevermind.13:31
affluxI was too late :(13:31
BUGabundo_work1how do I run gnome-do with debug symblos from gdb?14:22
BUGabundo_work1I already install it, but cant start it14:22
BUGabundo_work1gdb gnome-do says: "/usr/bin/gnome-do not in executable format14:22
imachinetseliot, any driver :)14:50
imachinetseliot, there's errors with dkms.14:50
imachinenamely, nvidia installer says it cannot determine kernel version.14:50
imachinetseliot, it's a supposedly known issue, I've found info on other forums (gentoo, arch).14:51
imachineit was fixed by setting the asm-i386 symlink in /lib/modules/yourkernel/build/14:51
imachineor build/include or smth14:51
tseliotimachine: I uploaded patches for that to Jaunty, just not for all the nvidia flavours. Are you using kernel 2.6.28?14:53
bddebianBoo15:03
imachinetseliot, nope15:07
imachine2.6.27-9-generic15:07
tseliotimachine: can you file a bug report, please?15:09
imachinetseliot, well, sure.15:10
imachinebut I'd ideally like to file a bug report, and provide a fix initially15:10
imachinemy machine can't suspend now (nv driver hangs the box on resume)15:10
imachineand that's pretty useful, it's a laptop after all.15:10
imachineany clues to what might solve this ?15:10
imachineI'm willing to test some packages/patches if you're willing to provide them15:11
imachineit worked fine on 8.04, it blew up after upgrading to 8.10, I had issues with the new nvidia driver so I chose to downgrade to 17315:11
imachineand it wouldn't work ever since.15:11
imachinemaybe I have too many packages. somewhere?15:11
imachineor too little?15:11
tseliotimachine: the suspend issue is another bug15:12
imachinetseliot, it worked fine on 8.04. is that something else?15:12
imachineis it kernel related or ?15:12
tseliotimachine: the suspend problem is in the binary part i.e. only nvidia can fix it.15:13
imachinetseliot, I have the suspend problem with 'nv' driver.15:13
imachineit worked fine with binary nvidia drivers :-)15:14
tseliotimachine: file a bug report against "nv" then (which is maintained by NVIDIA too)15:14
imachinewell I don't care much for nv.15:14
imachineI don't even want nv.15:14
imachineI just want nvidia, but that doesn't work to build.15:15
imachineand that's why I have this issue.15:15
imachinewhich I turn to you with ;-)15:15
imachinedo you have any idea how to fix it ?15:15
imachinehttp://pastebin.com/m632026715:15
imachinethis is what envy says15:15
imachinehttp://pastebin.com/m1fb153eb and heere's the make.log15:15
imachinehttp://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=328232#p328232 some more info here15:16
tseliotdid you install the kernel headers for your current kernel?15:16
imachinearen't they there by default?15:16
tseliotimachine: no15:16
imachinethey're there15:17
imachineI can remove them if you wish15:17
imachineI purged them all15:19
imachineok, I removed everything nvidia-related with envy15:20
imachinenow I choose to build again15:20
imachinewooo15:21
imachineit works.15:21
imachinetseliot, f.. a!15:21
imachinebut only 177 works, 173 drivers are fail.15:21
tseliotimachine: sorry but I'm working on an urgent update and I can't help you right now. Please file a bug report and I'll help you later15:21
imachinetseliot, it's ok. It seems the 173 driver is broken.15:24
imachineIll file a bug report about broken 173 on 8.1015:27
imachinehow it fails to build, etc.15:28
tseliotimachine: thanks :-)15:28
imachine177 is ok, but it's broken, I get window title artifacts with compiz :-)15:28
imachinethat's why I wanted to downgrade ;)15:28
tseliotimachine: if you file separate bug reports I'll notify Nvidia about the problem15:29
affluxBUGabundo_work1: in case you haven't figured out yet: /usr/bin/gnome-do is a script. "gdb /usr/bin/cli --args /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe"15:30
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imachinetseliot, about nv and about nvidia 173? ok15:36
tseliotimachine: about each bug that you would like to be fixed ;)15:37
MTecknologyhggdh: ping15:54
MTecknologyor are you sleeping?15:55
bcurtiswxhey cool, nows the perfect time to hack into his comp and steal everything15:55
elmargoltseliot: do you have a minute?15:58
tseliotelmargol: it depends. I'm working on an important update16:01
elmargoltseliot: if you have time could you give https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/270617 a look... it is still open :( and i did not get any response from nvidia (email)16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270617 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 "Display corruption after short period" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:02
tseliotelmargol: ok, I'll notify Nvidia16:05
elmargoltseliot: I allready did... I guess they ignore me16:05
tseliotelmargol: they won't ignore Canonical ;)16:07
BUGabundo_work1afflux: it says : "file fomart is ambiguos"16:33
affluxBUGabundo_work1: Arr, sorry. "gdb --args /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe"16:35
BUGabundo_work1afflux: /usr/bin/cli is not a core dump16:36
affluxBUGabundo_work1: err, this sounds weird. "gdb --args /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe" works for me. (I don't  have gnome-do installed)16:37
hggdhMTecknology, pong16:51
MTecknologyhggdh: I was wondering if you could still do the wiki thing17:05
MTecknologybbiab17:05
hggdhMTecknology, yes, I can. When I get back from lunch17:06
MTecknologyhggdh: thanks :)17:18
chrisccoulsonwhen somebody has assigned a bug to a non-ubuntu project (but still hosted on Launchpad), but the bug is in an Ubuntu package and not actually in that project, is there any way of re-assigning it back to ubuntu (to reduce bug spam for that project)? or do i have to just add an ubuntu task and invalidate the other project task?17:42
affluxchrisccoulson: If I got you right, you can't. Can I see an example?17:49
chrisccoulsonyep - bug 308551 - was assigned to the gnome-do project instead of the gnome-do ubuntu source package17:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 308551 in mono "/lib/libpthread.so.0 traceback" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30855117:49
chrisccoulsonit's a bug somewhere in mono, so i wanted to re-assign gnome-do -> mono, but i can't17:50
affluxchrisccoulson: yeah, right. That's not possible.17:50
chrisccoulsonthanks afflux, i did suspect that17:51
bdmurrayjames_w`: bug 308716 describes what you wanted correct?19:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 308716 in harvest-data "patches opportunity should not include bugs in sponsor queue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30871619:22
chrisccoulsonping asac - i've seen a few bug reports where people are reporting NM reports "no valid connections found", when they have their connections statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces . that's the intended behaviour when there are no managed devices though isn't it? it seems to be causing some confusion19:52
JugglerLKRhi20:28
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Darkhosthttp://imperiumreklamy.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=krzysztof9222<---- Look at this!! New ubuntu bug!20:40
ansgarHi, I (co)maintain several packages in Debian and sometimes look after bugs filed for these packages in Ubuntu as well.  I wonder if I should change the bug status to "In Progress" if working on a patch in Debian?22:28
bdmurrayansgar: Is there a debian bug for the Ubuntu bug you are looking at?22:29
ansgarIn this case, yes.22:29
ansgarEven with a patch though I don't know when I will upload the package (it's only a minor bug).22:30
bdmurrayIts possible to link Ubuntu bug reports to Debian bugs and status of the Debian bug will be updated automatically.22:30
ansgarAh, I did that already (that's a pretty nice feature I must admit :) )22:31
bdmurrayYeah, its pretty cool.  I think having the bug watch most accurately reflects what is going on.22:32
ansgarAnd what to do with bugs completely unreleated to a package, but where I don't know where the bug might come from?  (In this case #260559, might also be hardware problems)22:33
bdmurrayThat one sounds like a kernel issue, so the linux package.  Generally, you could tag them needs-reassignment.22:35
LaserJockbdmurray: do we have a "LP for Debian maintainers" doc somewhere?22:37
bdmurrayNot that I know of22:37
ansgarThanks for your help.22:37
ansgarAh, one more question: If I want to change the importance field, it seems I have to be a member of UbuntuBugControl.  Should I just apply?  I'll probably look only after my own packages anyway.22:41
bdmurrayansgar: Looking after your own packages is fine.  Feel free to include some debian bugs in your application too.22:42
krychekhi, i think upgrading my network manager is causing me a new bug.. my wifi internet connection gets lost after a few minutes after boot. dmesg says: [  222.897908] ppdev0: registered pardevice    -       [  222.945402] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice  ..  etc22:52
krychekis this a known thing?22:52
bdmurrayI'm not familiar with it.  Have you looked at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bugs ?22:53
krycheki will, thanks22:55
krycheki think network manager really needs a help button22:55
krychekand i have network manager applet finally after todays upgrade, its just not good for anything, everything is grayed out22:57
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azimoutcan someone please take a look at this one?23:54
azimouthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/18572523:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 185725 in ubuntu-meta "[hardy] hotkey-setup should be removed (obsoleted by hal)" [Wishlist,New]23:54
bdmurrayazimout: I believe there is a push to review whether or not it is needed during the Jaunty development cycle23:58
azimoutso, what does this mean? should i create a blueprint, or do nothing, or what?23:59

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