seaq | so when the move is to fix released, is when the bug was actually worked... | 00:01 |
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mok0 | grrr, I have a simple problem that annoys me. How do I open up a series specific sub-bug? (see e.g. bug 201123) | 00:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 201123 in gnome-subtitles "gnome-subtitles crashes on create new subtitle" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201123 | 00:02 |
bdmurray | mok0: so another task like the Hardy one? | 00:07 |
mok0 | bdmurray: yes | 00:07 |
bdmurray | mok0: you want "Target to release" underneath the task table | 00:07 |
mok0 | bdmurray: Huh? I don't have that | 00:08 |
seaq | Nominate to release | 00:08 |
bdmurray | mok0: is nominate for release there? | 00:08 |
mok0 | bdmurray: yes | 00:08 |
bdmurray | mok0: let's try that then | 00:09 |
mok0 | That just writes a line below the table | 00:09 |
mok0 | "Nominated for xxxxx by Morten etc" | 00:09 |
LaserJock | mok0: right, somebody needs to then approve the nomination | 00:10 |
mok0 | LaserJock: ... and only then you get that series target? | 00:10 |
LaserJock | mok0: yep | 00:10 |
bdmurray | mok0: I'll approve it | 00:11 |
mok0 | bdmurray: I'm not working on that bug, it was just an illustration | 00:11 |
bdmurray | ah, okay | 00:11 |
mok0 | So I nominate, and then approve it? | 00:12 |
LaserJock | I think a core-dev needs to approve nominations | 00:12 |
mok0 | LaserJock: yeah, but probably not for universe? | 00:13 |
LaserJock | mok0: I think for universe too | 00:13 |
LaserJock | mok0: as gnome-subtitles is in Universe and you couldn't do it | 00:13 |
mok0 | LaserJock: Oh, I didn't want to fool around with that bug, so I didn't try | 00:13 |
LaserJock | ah | 00:14 |
Hobbsee | ah, nominations are fun. | 00:14 |
bdmurray | mok0: you could try it on staging.launchpad.net | 00:14 |
bdmurray | to test and see if you have the permissions | 00:14 |
mok0 | bdmurray: yes, I will go play with it there | 00:14 |
LaserJock | it would be just lovely to have a list of bug permissions and who holds those permissions | 00:14 |
mok0 | LaserJock: hear! | 00:15 |
Hobbsee | even the qa team can nominate for release, without approval. | 00:15 |
Hobbsee | and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RCBugTargetting#Untargeting%20bugs explains how to untarget | 00:15 |
mok0 | thanks Hobbsee, will take a look. The LP interface is not always transparent | 00:16 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: ubuntu-bugcontrl? | 00:16 |
Hobbsee | hrm. that's wrong. | 00:16 |
Hobbsee | or at least, doesn't work for this bug. | 00:16 |
Hobbsee | mok0: no, it isn't :( | 00:16 |
Hobbsee | LaserJock: i'd guess ubuntu-quality | 00:16 |
Hobbsee | just for kicks, note https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/307269 | 00:16 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 307269 in Ubuntu Jaunty "Bug tasks nominations can be accepted and declined simultaneously" [Undecided,Invalid] | 00:16 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: there is no ubuntu-quality team | 00:17 |
Hobbsee | there was | 00:18 |
Hobbsee | or is that the one that got renamed to -bugcontrol? | 00:18 |
LaserJock | I think so | 00:18 |
LaserJock | hard to remember | 00:18 |
LaserJock | Hobbsee: but I thought you at *least* had to have upload permission to be able to approve nominations | 00:19 |
Hobbsee | so did i, prior to last week | 00:19 |
LaserJock | bah | 00:19 |
Hobbsee | but -bugcontrol (at least) can definetly do it | 00:19 |
bdmurray | I believe bugcontrol can set milestones and only uploaders can approve nominations. | 00:20 |
Hobbsee | bdmurray: that's not correct. note the above bug for proof :( | 00:22 |
bdmurray | Hobbsee: I'm not seeing the proof there | 00:24 |
Hobbsee | unless ~canonical-qa can | 00:24 |
bdmurray | yes, it can | 00:24 |
Hobbsee | Declined for Gutsy by Steve Beattie (approve) | 00:25 |
Hobbsee | and he put in the lower three | 00:25 |
bdmurray | and actually it's ubuntu-drivers that canonical-qa is a member of | 00:25 |
Hobbsee | oh, well then.... | 00:25 |
Hobbsee | fair enough, then. | 00:25 |
Hobbsee | so, people who work for canonical, but don't have upload powers, can still approve nominations. mere mortals who don't have upload powers can't. | 00:26 |
* Hobbsee wonders why ~canonical-qa is in ubuntu-drivers | 00:26 | |
bdmurray | To help out with managing nominations | 00:27 |
LaserJock | but shouldn't that be done via normal means? | 00:28 |
Hobbsee | so why don't -bugcontrol also get that? | 00:28 |
Hobbsee | if equality is a thing to be strived for, and such | 00:28 |
bdmurray | Because the 'Driver' in Ubuntu can do a lot more than just that | 00:29 |
* Hobbsee wonders if 'drivers' has been quantified anywhere, or just means "important canonical people who have power over ubuntu in launchpad" | 00:30 | |
LaserJock | well, the team description on LP is "This team needs a rethink after a discussion about privilege levels in Launchpad" | 00:31 |
LaserJock | I guess it's a landing place for being able to tweak LP for people who don't already have such privileges | 00:31 |
LaserJock | notice that UDS-organizers are in there | 00:32 |
LaserJock | so if I were organizing a UDS I could also nominate bugs :-) | 00:32 |
bdmurray | The Driver role can also modify the distribution in Launchpad | 00:32 |
LaserJock | s/nominate/approve nominations in/ | 00:32 |
Palintheus | can I get bug 154245 marked as wishlist? | 00:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 154245 in ubiquity "Finding updates upon install is irritating!!!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154245 | 00:40 |
Hobbsee | that probably should be marked as wontfix. | 00:43 |
Hobbsee | it's not feasible to completely reroll cds and test them each time there's an update | 00:43 |
Hobbsee | and there are point releases for the LTS releases, to help with that. | 00:44 |
Hobbsee | Palintheus: ^ | 00:44 |
Palintheus | I think they are asking for a skip button, let me reread | 00:44 |
Palintheus | yeah.. "There should be a "skip this step..." button there with the following text: You can update your system after reboot..." | 00:44 |
Palintheus | unless I'm misunderstanding something | 00:44 |
Hobbsee | oh, i stopped reading after the first paragraph | 00:45 |
* charlie-tca thinks unplug the ethernet cable would work | 00:45 | |
* Hobbsee pokes it | 00:45 | |
Palintheus | charlie-tca: probably, but a hassle when there could be an option | 00:46 |
charlie-tca | it is a WorkAround, though | 00:47 |
* Palintheus nods | 00:47 | |
mok0 | On staging, it seems I can nominate/approve packages in universe, but not in main. | 01:18 |
mok0 | In main, I can only nominate | 01:18 |
mok0 | In universe, it is immediately approved | 01:18 |
LaserJock | went home and got two more invalidated bugs :( | 01:38 |
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crimsun | LaserJock: i can hand you my pile of bugs if you'd like. | 01:43 |
Palintheus | would this one be marked invalid...I don't see how it differing from Windows is a problem, bug 305187 | 01:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 305187 in firefox-3.0 "The linux edition's input box is wider than the windows edition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/305187 | 01:46 |
crimsun | Palintheus: imo, yes, but it'd be nice to have screenshots from within windows and ubuntu. | 01:48 |
Palintheus | gotcha, so best bet is to ask for screenshots and mark it incomplete | 01:48 |
hggdh | Palintheus, correct. | 01:49 |
crimsun | i.e., similar look n' feel within reason can be expected, but fairly minor differences that could depend on dpi don't normally constitute bugs in applications. | 01:50 |
Palintheus | ok so it's reasonable to ask them to take screenshots on a desktop with the same resolution, and settings within firefox? | 01:51 |
crimsun | if you wish to go the extra mile, yes :) | 01:51 |
MTecknology | What is 5 a Day? | 01:53 |
bcurtiswx | hey, have any of you tried mumbles? | 01:54 |
Palintheus | MTecknology: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day/ | 01:55 |
MTecknology | I moreso meant, what's the application it uses for? | 01:58 |
MTecknology | just a way to track what bugs people are working on? | 01:58 |
Palintheus | http://daniel.holba.ch/5-a-day-stats/ | 01:58 |
Palintheus | bragging rights :) | 01:58 |
andresmujica | :) | 01:59 |
MTecknology | I need to get back on triaging after finals | 02:01 |
bcurtiswx | bug #277924 i've been waiting for some actions on | 02:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 277924 in linux "kernel cannot find map file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/277924 | 02:02 |
bcurtiswx | anyone mind taking a look | 02:02 |
MTecknology | bcurtiswx: it looks plenty active... | 02:06 |
charlie-tca | Still doesn't seem to have enough to tell a developer how to fix | 02:07 |
charlie-tca | What impact does the missing map file have on the system? | 02:08 |
MTecknology | bcurtiswx: ^ | 02:10 |
andresmujica | almost none.... | 02:10 |
andresmujica | http://mm.gnu.org.in/pipermail/fsug-bangalore/2005-June/000384.html | 02:10 |
andresmujica | at least not a critical one. | 02:10 |
Ryan52 | bdmurray, thanks :) | 02:12 |
bcurtiswx | yeah no problems, but you'd think that shouldn't be there | 02:12 |
bcurtiswx | maybe a low priority at least | 02:12 |
bcurtiswx | and idk what devs would need in this case | 02:12 |
andresmujica | http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.setup/2005-07/0103.html | 02:12 |
MTecknology | a package for one | 02:12 |
MTecknology | and some hardware specs from everybody | 02:13 |
andresmujica | i believe that file is created during depmod process.. maybe it's failing... | 02:13 |
LaserJock | crimsun: no thanks you can keep your bugs. I guess I just need to get on top of mine :-) | 02:13 |
andresmujica | hey, what happened to the incomplete -> invalid move requirements? | 02:16 |
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=== MTeck[]ology is now known as MTeck[][]logy | ||
=== MTeck[][]logy is now known as MTecknology | ||
dholbach | good morning | 06:54 |
thekorn | good morning bugsquad! | 07:28 |
MTecknology | thekorn: hi | 07:32 |
MTecknology | the bugsquad isn't that horribly special, is it? | 07:32 |
hggdh | MTecknology, what do you mean? | 07:45 |
MTecknology | hggdh: anybody can join it and I wonder how many people join it and just forget about it | 07:45 |
hggdh | a lot... | 07:45 |
hggdh | this expected | 07:46 |
MTecknology | I applied for the bug control team and I feel I could contribute, onve finals are over - but I don't expect to make it in | 07:46 |
hggdh | why not? | 07:47 |
hggdh | I know you applied, but I (for one) did not have much available time lately to answer it | 07:47 |
hggdh | perhaps *now* is a good time... | 07:47 |
MTecknology | somewhere along the line a lot of the bugs I've worked on were lost. I think it happened when I changed my email | 07:48 |
hggdh | it should not happen, only if you changed you handle | 07:48 |
hggdh | on LP | 07:48 |
MTecknology | I don't remember doing that | 07:48 |
MTecknology | hggdh: so you're one of the guys that can approve it? | 07:49 |
MTecknology | I'm excited for finals to be over so I can starthitting bugs agian | 07:49 |
hggdh | yes. Any member of bug-control can chirp in on requests -- +1 or -1 | 07:50 |
MTecknology | oh | 07:50 |
MTecknology | wanna look at my request and tell me what you think? | 07:50 |
hggdh | as long as you tell me what email you used ;-) | 07:51 |
MTecknology | michael - profarius - com | 07:52 |
hggdh | got it... missed a c on tecknology | 07:52 |
hggdh | k | 07:53 |
hggdh | stacktrace.txt -- it is .txt cuz it is a text file. Could be .list as well | 07:53 |
hggdh | coredumps are also usual repositories for private data | 07:53 |
hggdh | huh | 07:54 |
MTecknology | I've never encountered any to look into them | 07:54 |
MTecknology | huh?? | 07:54 |
hggdh | MTecknology, you *must* give us a sample of the bugs you worked on | 07:54 |
MTecknology | I did | 07:54 |
MTecknology | I submitted a second app | 07:55 |
hggdh | ah | 07:55 |
hggdh | lemme go back to search | 07:55 |
MTecknology | that's from when I was having troubles with not finding them from earlier | 07:55 |
hggdh | k, got it | 07:56 |
thekorn | hi MTecknology and hggdh | 08:05 |
hggdh | cheers thekorn | 08:06 |
thekorn | and dholbach_ ;) | 08:06 |
hggdh | and dholbach_ | 08:06 |
hggdh | :-) | 08:06 |
dholbach_ | hi thekorn, hi hggdh | 08:06 |
thekorn | hehe | 08:06 |
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MTecknology | thekorn: hi | 08:06 |
hggdh | MTecknology, wow, the first two are a real novella | 08:06 |
MTecknology | sorry | 08:07 |
hggdh | bug 173652 mostly | 08:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 173652 in xbacklight "Unable to adjust screen brightness on recent Sony Vaio notebooks, Intel GMA adapter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173652 | 08:07 |
hggdh | but I see you learned a lot there | 08:07 |
MTecknology | oh, you mean the thing got really drawn out? | 08:07 |
hggdh | yes | 08:07 |
MTecknology | ya, that's still going on | 08:07 |
MTecknology | but at least there's improvement | 08:08 |
MTecknology | I need to revisit the motion eye one | 08:08 |
hggdh | heh | 08:08 |
hggdh | you *can change importance, can you not? | 08:08 |
MTecknology | I noticed the site the code was on isn't around anymore | 08:08 |
* hggdh does not remember anymore | 08:08 | |
MTecknology | nope | 08:08 |
MTecknology | can't set triaged or importance | 08:09 |
MTecknology | I love ubuntu surverys, I just with the back/next buttons were on the left side, closer the where you answer | 08:09 |
MTecknology | hggdh: what do you think so far? | 08:12 |
hggdh | just got through #1 -- not really a triager work when it started, but I can see you learning. So far so good | 08:13 |
hggdh | #2 is bis repetita from #1. I guess you copied the wrong link | 08:14 |
MTecknology | hrm... | 08:14 |
MTecknology | what's the link? | 08:14 |
MTecknology | or did I mention those two together? | 08:14 |
hggdh | [#2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/173652 | 08:15 |
hggdh | > | 08:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 173652 in xbacklight "Unable to adjust screen brightness on recent Sony Vaio notebooks, Intel GMA adapter" [Undecided,New] | 08:15 |
MTecknology | bis repetita? | 08:15 |
hggdh | the same thing | 08:16 |
hggdh | again | 08:16 |
hggdh | (that's the meaning) | 08:16 |
MTecknology | oh | 08:17 |
hggdh | good ol' Latin ;-) | 08:17 |
MTecknology | :P | 08:17 |
MTecknology | You mean your summary of it comes out to about the same? | 08:17 |
hggdh | no I mean it is the exact same bug you talked about on #1-- the novella | 08:18 |
MTecknology | oh | 08:19 |
MTecknology | ... | 08:19 |
MTecknology | lemme finish something up and I'll check | 08:19 |
hggdh | OK. what do you want to do with bugs 301830 and 300997 | 08:20 |
hggdh | ? | 08:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 301830 in ubuntu-website "PageList Style Formatting" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/301830 | 08:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 300997 in ubuntu-website "monthcalendar on ubuntu wikis - unattractive brown/red colours" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300997 | 08:20 |
MTecknology | I'd like to get the correct source to the modules and modify it so it offers a different theme | 08:22 |
MTecknology | far as triage status, there's not much else it can be set to until somebody starts working, even then it's a low priority thing | 08:23 |
hggdh | k. Is ubuntu-website the correct package? | 08:23 |
MTecknology | no | 08:23 |
MTecknology | I think it should be moin | 08:23 |
MTecknology | since it's the ubuntu wiki | 08:24 |
hggdh | hum. Moin is the "product" used, but not the implementation | 08:24 |
MTecknology | Unless there's a package name for the wiki then, that should be right | 08:25 |
MTecknology | right? | 08:25 |
hggdh | I think so. | 08:25 |
MTecknology | moin would be if there's a code base error that isn't specifically related to the ubuntu implimentation... | 08:26 |
hggdh | not necessarily... since *we* do not have access to the source for the wiki, only the canonical folks would be able to correctly set it | 08:27 |
MTecknology | I would like to get the code to it so I could at least work on changing it up some over christmas break | 08:27 |
hggdh | but the wiki says this: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/contactus | 08:28 |
MTecknology | The "Web Feedback" part? | 08:28 |
hggdh | hah, got it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website | 08:29 |
hggdh | and it's the right pakage indeed. | 08:30 |
MTecknology | and a heads up for me to pop into the channel later | 08:30 |
MTecknology | Little too late now | 08:32 |
MTecknology | 02:30 now and I have a final exam at 08:00 | 08:33 |
hggdh | good, you were able to read between the lines ;-) | 08:33 |
hggdh | go to bed, man. It is enough to have one insonniac | 08:33 |
MTecknology | :P | 08:33 |
MTecknology | I wanna know what you think first | 08:33 |
* hggdh is the one, right now | 08:33 | |
MTecknology | I'm running through some questions now | 08:34 |
hggdh | so far, so good | 08:34 |
MTecknology | !jaunty | 08:35 |
ubottu | Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009 - UDS December 8th-12th in Mountain View, CA, USA - Jaunty doesn't even really exist yet, but join #ubuntu+1 for help and discussion. | 08:35 |
MTecknology | wow - winehq got a makeover | 08:37 |
MTecknology | I'll nap when I get to the top of this list | 08:40 |
hggdh | :-) | 08:40 |
hggdh | go to bed. I am still looking at your bugs. I will email you & the list with my take | 08:40 |
MTecknology | thanks :) | 08:41 |
MTecknology | but still not listening | 08:41 |
* MTecknology lolz to self at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/54590 | 08:45 | |
MTecknology | but all issues must be treated with coureousy (late night spelling) | 08:45 |
hggdh | MTecknology, there is one thing important on your list -- you should show bugs opened by others, not you. By definition, we are tainted to discuss our own bugs | 08:50 |
MTecknology | oh | 08:50 |
MTecknology | I misunderstood that, sorry | 08:51 |
MTecknology | probably just read it to fast | 08:51 |
hggdh | no problem... but may I suggest you try again? | 08:51 |
hggdh | the point is we are trying to measure your ability to triage, not your ability to open good bugs | 08:52 |
MTecknology | I could later, I'll probably just try to find new ones to attend to | 08:52 |
MTecknology | when I find time... :( | 08:52 |
MTecknology | Usually when I look for trying to help other people with radnom issues I look to questions | 08:53 |
hggdh | MTecknology, please do not get it as a personal thing | 08:53 |
MTecknology | nope, not at all | 08:53 |
MTecknology | Did you finish looking over them all? | 08:54 |
hggdh | I am at the last one now. But a good chunk of them are your own bugs | 08:54 |
hggdh | I can see (as I already said, er, wrote) you are learning, but -- they are your own bugs.... :-/ | 08:55 |
MTecknology | I had it in my head that's what was being requested, reading it again, idk why | 08:56 |
hggdh | BTW, it was a good answer | 08:56 |
MTecknology | Doe the one where I suggested a priority and it was changed count? | 08:56 |
hggdh | perhaps it is not well explained | 08:56 |
hggdh | it does count | 08:56 |
hggdh | but we will still need other sample bugs to look at | 08:57 |
MTecknology | ok | 08:57 |
MTecknology | that's a -1 from you then? | 08:58 |
MTecknology | if you decided based on that? | 08:58 |
MTecknology | When I resubmit, shouls I include those bugs, or just do fresh? | 08:58 |
hggdh | MTecknology, yes, it is a -1 on technicality | 08:59 |
hggdh | you can include them -- as long they are not yours ;-) | 09:00 |
hggdh | but please do try again. I am sorry about that... but we have to be fair | 09:00 |
MTecknology | yup | 09:02 |
MTecknology | I appreciate your review | 09:02 |
MTecknology | It's like my Ubuntu Member application | 09:02 |
MTecknology | I tried, failed | 09:02 |
MTecknology | but now I know more about what I need to do to make the cut | 09:03 |
hggdh | heh... well, look at me... I *never* tried to be a member, I am sure they will shoot me down | 09:03 |
MTecknology | This is a good response? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/54609 | 09:03 |
hggdh | OTH, I will need to get out of the closet and disclose my name also | 09:03 |
* MTecknology <-- Michael Lustfield | 09:04 | |
MTecknology | bday: Jan 07, 1998 | 09:04 |
MTecknology | 1988* | 09:04 |
MTecknology | 180lb; 5'10" | 09:04 |
MTecknology | :P | 09:05 |
* hggdh <- hggdh, a.k.a. haggadah | 09:05 | |
hggdh | bday: long ago | 09:05 |
hggdh | 186lb, 5'1'', was 6' once | 09:06 |
MTecknology | If I make into into the bug control team AND get my LoCo up and running good enough, I'll probably make member pretty easily | 09:06 |
hggdh | 5'11'' | 09:06 |
MTecknology | but neither of those will probably be easy | 09:06 |
MTecknology | especially the LoCo part | 09:06 |
MTecknology | I have the infrastructure in place, but not the interest - this state is kinda... dry | 09:07 |
hggdh | what state is this? | 09:07 |
MTecknology | south dakota | 09:07 |
hggdh | oh | 09:07 |
MTecknology | sdloco.profarius.com | 09:07 |
MTecknology | my site | 09:07 |
hggdh | on the answer: I would also ask what version the reporter downloaded | 09:08 |
MTecknology | I rewrote every single line and did 99.9% of that work from scratch | 09:08 |
hggdh | good. | 09:08 |
hggdh | this type of work does count a lot | 09:08 |
MTecknology | really?? | 09:09 |
MTecknology | questions count?? | 09:09 |
hggdh | no, the loco | 09:09 |
MTecknology | oh | 09:09 |
MTecknology | not for the bug control team though | 09:09 |
hggdh | questions help YOU learn -- even when you answer. | 09:09 |
MTecknology | I was confused :P | 09:09 |
hggdh | no, not for b-c | 09:09 |
hggdh | but it is an extremely good training on triaging | 09:10 |
MTecknology | lol... changing that question | 09:10 |
MTecknology | little more appropriate :P | 09:10 |
MTecknology | hggdh: From all of that, do you think I've put a decent amount of work into Ubuntu> | 09:11 |
MTecknology | ?* | 09:11 |
hggdh | yes | 09:11 |
hggdh | no doubt | 09:11 |
MTecknology | any chance you would say something about me on my wiki? | 09:11 |
hggdh | you are trying, and you keep trying. And you are learning | 09:11 |
hggdh | I can, but -- who am I here? a small volunteer, unknown almost everywhere. | 09:12 |
MTecknology | so? | 09:12 |
MTecknology | as long as what you say has value behind it, it should be just fine | 09:12 |
hggdh | it would be good -- in terms of promoting the LOCO effort -- to get the big guns | 09:12 |
MTecknology | what big guns? | 09:13 |
hggdh | the known names with Ubuntu | 09:13 |
MTecknology | In case you didn't and to search https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MTecknology | 09:13 |
MTecknology | I've been communicating with a few people about getting things going | 09:14 |
MTecknology | people like Flannel, pleia2, tyche, tonyyarusso, etc | 09:14 |
MTecknology | 'tis late though | 09:15 |
MTecknology | my fingers are blurring my words :P | 09:15 |
hggdh | hah. So you have a server called kabalah | 09:16 |
MTecknology | s/b/bb/ | 09:16 |
MTecknology | ya | 09:16 |
MTecknology | wasn't my name, the server i named was vindico | 09:16 |
hggdh | it sort of goes with haggadah... same language | 09:16 |
hggdh | but that is a long story | 09:16 |
MTecknology | too late for me to hear now :P | 09:17 |
MTecknology | what time is it there? | 09:17 |
hggdh | (although only theologically related) | 09:17 |
hggdh | here -- NC -- 0315 | 09:17 |
hggdh | in a cold hotel room | 09:17 |
MTecknology | same time | 09:18 |
hggdh | oh, sorry, I forgot to change my TZ | 09:18 |
hggdh | it is actually 0415 | 09:18 |
MTecknology | i gotta get up in 4hr though, it's my beddy by time :P | 09:18 |
MTecknology | oh | 09:18 |
hggdh | I guess I completely gave up sleeping tonight :-( | 09:19 |
MTecknology | thanks for the review, I'll keep those things in mind when I start building up a new list from scratch. | 09:19 |
MTecknology | :P | 09:19 |
hggdh | thank you. We *do* appreciate your help | 09:19 |
MTecknology | I'll appreciate my help too eventually ;) | 09:20 |
hggdh | heh | 09:20 |
MTecknology | When you do put something on my Wiki, just mention you're in the bug control team, that pretty much makes whatever you say worth something | 09:20 |
hggdh | OK. | 09:21 |
hggdh | Wilco | 09:21 |
MTecknology | g'night | 09:22 |
MTecknology | or mornin; | 09:22 |
MTecknology | either way, I'm going to bug you again | 09:22 |
hggdh | g'night/morning/whatever | 09:23 |
hggdh | I will be here | 09:23 |
MTecknology | could you send me a blank copy of the application? | 09:23 |
hggdh | I will try to find it. I *know* where it is, but my brain is slightly fried right now | 09:23 |
hggdh | and I will send it to you | 09:23 |
MTecknology | alrighty, I'll save the copy this time... | 09:24 |
MTecknology | thanks | 09:24 |
MTecknology | g'night | 09:24 |
* MTecknology signs off for the night. | 09:24 | |
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imachine | tseliot, Hi | 12:53 |
imachine | tseliot, would you mind helping sorting out a nasty nvidia bug with 8,10 ? | 12:54 |
imachine | it seems you're the only person recommended about here for fixing this issue and nailing the bug properly | 12:54 |
imachine | tseliot, dkms doen | 12:59 |
imachine | doesn't build the driver properly. | 12:59 |
tseliot | imachine: which driver? | 13:20 |
afflux | are there any reasons why we would keep feisty bugs open? | 13:30 |
afflux | or rather, any objections to me closing them? ;) | 13:31 |
afflux | oh. nevermind. | 13:31 |
afflux | I was too late :( | 13:31 |
BUGabundo_work1 | how do I run gnome-do with debug symblos from gdb? | 14:22 |
BUGabundo_work1 | I already install it, but cant start it | 14:22 |
BUGabundo_work1 | gdb gnome-do says: "/usr/bin/gnome-do not in executable format | 14:22 |
imachine | tseliot, any driver :) | 14:50 |
imachine | tseliot, there's errors with dkms. | 14:50 |
imachine | namely, nvidia installer says it cannot determine kernel version. | 14:50 |
imachine | tseliot, it's a supposedly known issue, I've found info on other forums (gentoo, arch). | 14:51 |
imachine | it was fixed by setting the asm-i386 symlink in /lib/modules/yourkernel/build/ | 14:51 |
imachine | or build/include or smth | 14:51 |
tseliot | imachine: I uploaded patches for that to Jaunty, just not for all the nvidia flavours. Are you using kernel 2.6.28? | 14:53 |
bddebian | Boo | 15:03 |
imachine | tseliot, nope | 15:07 |
imachine | 2.6.27-9-generic | 15:07 |
tseliot | imachine: can you file a bug report, please? | 15:09 |
imachine | tseliot, well, sure. | 15:10 |
imachine | but I'd ideally like to file a bug report, and provide a fix initially | 15:10 |
imachine | my machine can't suspend now (nv driver hangs the box on resume) | 15:10 |
imachine | and that's pretty useful, it's a laptop after all. | 15:10 |
imachine | any clues to what might solve this ? | 15:10 |
imachine | I'm willing to test some packages/patches if you're willing to provide them | 15:11 |
imachine | it worked fine on 8.04, it blew up after upgrading to 8.10, I had issues with the new nvidia driver so I chose to downgrade to 173 | 15:11 |
imachine | and it wouldn't work ever since. | 15:11 |
imachine | maybe I have too many packages. somewhere? | 15:11 |
imachine | or too little? | 15:11 |
tseliot | imachine: the suspend issue is another bug | 15:12 |
imachine | tseliot, it worked fine on 8.04. is that something else? | 15:12 |
imachine | is it kernel related or ? | 15:12 |
tseliot | imachine: the suspend problem is in the binary part i.e. only nvidia can fix it. | 15:13 |
imachine | tseliot, I have the suspend problem with 'nv' driver. | 15:13 |
imachine | it worked fine with binary nvidia drivers :-) | 15:14 |
tseliot | imachine: file a bug report against "nv" then (which is maintained by NVIDIA too) | 15:14 |
imachine | well I don't care much for nv. | 15:14 |
imachine | I don't even want nv. | 15:14 |
imachine | I just want nvidia, but that doesn't work to build. | 15:15 |
imachine | and that's why I have this issue. | 15:15 |
imachine | which I turn to you with ;-) | 15:15 |
imachine | do you have any idea how to fix it ? | 15:15 |
imachine | http://pastebin.com/m6320267 | 15:15 |
imachine | this is what envy says | 15:15 |
imachine | http://pastebin.com/m1fb153eb and heere's the make.log | 15:15 |
imachine | http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=328232#p328232 some more info here | 15:16 |
tseliot | did you install the kernel headers for your current kernel? | 15:16 |
imachine | aren't they there by default? | 15:16 |
tseliot | imachine: no | 15:16 |
imachine | they're there | 15:17 |
imachine | I can remove them if you wish | 15:17 |
imachine | I purged them all | 15:19 |
imachine | ok, I removed everything nvidia-related with envy | 15:20 |
imachine | now I choose to build again | 15:20 |
imachine | wooo | 15:21 |
imachine | it works. | 15:21 |
imachine | tseliot, f.. a! | 15:21 |
imachine | but only 177 works, 173 drivers are fail. | 15:21 |
tseliot | imachine: sorry but I'm working on an urgent update and I can't help you right now. Please file a bug report and I'll help you later | 15:21 |
imachine | tseliot, it's ok. It seems the 173 driver is broken. | 15:24 |
imachine | Ill file a bug report about broken 173 on 8.10 | 15:27 |
imachine | how it fails to build, etc. | 15:28 |
tseliot | imachine: thanks :-) | 15:28 |
imachine | 177 is ok, but it's broken, I get window title artifacts with compiz :-) | 15:28 |
imachine | that's why I wanted to downgrade ;) | 15:28 |
tseliot | imachine: if you file separate bug reports I'll notify Nvidia about the problem | 15:29 |
afflux | BUGabundo_work1: in case you haven't figured out yet: /usr/bin/gnome-do is a script. "gdb /usr/bin/cli --args /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe" | 15:30 |
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imachine | tseliot, about nv and about nvidia 173? ok | 15:36 |
tseliot | imachine: about each bug that you would like to be fixed ;) | 15:37 |
MTecknology | hggdh: ping | 15:54 |
MTecknology | or are you sleeping? | 15:55 |
bcurtiswx | hey cool, nows the perfect time to hack into his comp and steal everything | 15:55 |
elmargol | tseliot: do you have a minute? | 15:58 |
tseliot | elmargol: it depends. I'm working on an important update | 16:01 |
elmargol | tseliot: if you have time could you give https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-177/+bug/270617 a look... it is still open :( and i did not get any response from nvidia (email) | 16:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 270617 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 "Display corruption after short period" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:02 |
tseliot | elmargol: ok, I'll notify Nvidia | 16:05 |
elmargol | tseliot: I allready did... I guess they ignore me | 16:05 |
tseliot | elmargol: they won't ignore Canonical ;) | 16:07 |
BUGabundo_work1 | afflux: it says : "file fomart is ambiguos" | 16:33 |
afflux | BUGabundo_work1: Arr, sorry. "gdb --args /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/gnome-do/Do.exe" | 16:35 |
BUGabundo_work1 | afflux: /usr/bin/cli is not a core dump | 16:36 |
afflux | BUGabundo_work1: err, this sounds weird. "gdb --args /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/tomboy/Tomboy.exe" works for me. (I don't have gnome-do installed) | 16:37 |
hggdh | MTecknology, pong | 16:51 |
MTecknology | hggdh: I was wondering if you could still do the wiki thing | 17:05 |
MTecknology | bbiab | 17:05 |
hggdh | MTecknology, yes, I can. When I get back from lunch | 17:06 |
MTecknology | hggdh: thanks :) | 17:18 |
chrisccoulson | when somebody has assigned a bug to a non-ubuntu project (but still hosted on Launchpad), but the bug is in an Ubuntu package and not actually in that project, is there any way of re-assigning it back to ubuntu (to reduce bug spam for that project)? or do i have to just add an ubuntu task and invalidate the other project task? | 17:42 |
afflux | chrisccoulson: If I got you right, you can't. Can I see an example? | 17:49 |
chrisccoulson | yep - bug 308551 - was assigned to the gnome-do project instead of the gnome-do ubuntu source package | 17:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 308551 in mono "/lib/libpthread.so.0 traceback" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308551 | 17:49 |
chrisccoulson | it's a bug somewhere in mono, so i wanted to re-assign gnome-do -> mono, but i can't | 17:50 |
afflux | chrisccoulson: yeah, right. That's not possible. | 17:50 |
chrisccoulson | thanks afflux, i did suspect that | 17:51 |
bdmurray | james_w`: bug 308716 describes what you wanted correct? | 19:22 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 308716 in harvest-data "patches opportunity should not include bugs in sponsor queue" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308716 | 19:22 |
chrisccoulson | ping asac - i've seen a few bug reports where people are reporting NM reports "no valid connections found", when they have their connections statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces . that's the intended behaviour when there are no managed devices though isn't it? it seems to be causing some confusion | 19:52 |
JugglerLKR | hi | 20:28 |
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Darkhost | http://imperiumreklamy.com/pages/ptp.php?refid=krzysztof9222<---- Look at this!! New ubuntu bug! | 20:40 |
ansgar | Hi, I (co)maintain several packages in Debian and sometimes look after bugs filed for these packages in Ubuntu as well. I wonder if I should change the bug status to "In Progress" if working on a patch in Debian? | 22:28 |
bdmurray | ansgar: Is there a debian bug for the Ubuntu bug you are looking at? | 22:29 |
ansgar | In this case, yes. | 22:29 |
ansgar | Even with a patch though I don't know when I will upload the package (it's only a minor bug). | 22:30 |
bdmurray | Its possible to link Ubuntu bug reports to Debian bugs and status of the Debian bug will be updated automatically. | 22:30 |
ansgar | Ah, I did that already (that's a pretty nice feature I must admit :) ) | 22:31 |
bdmurray | Yeah, its pretty cool. I think having the bug watch most accurately reflects what is going on. | 22:32 |
ansgar | And what to do with bugs completely unreleated to a package, but where I don't know where the bug might come from? (In this case #260559, might also be hardware problems) | 22:33 |
bdmurray | That one sounds like a kernel issue, so the linux package. Generally, you could tag them needs-reassignment. | 22:35 |
LaserJock | bdmurray: do we have a "LP for Debian maintainers" doc somewhere? | 22:37 |
bdmurray | Not that I know of | 22:37 |
ansgar | Thanks for your help. | 22:37 |
ansgar | Ah, one more question: If I want to change the importance field, it seems I have to be a member of UbuntuBugControl. Should I just apply? I'll probably look only after my own packages anyway. | 22:41 |
bdmurray | ansgar: Looking after your own packages is fine. Feel free to include some debian bugs in your application too. | 22:42 |
krychek | hi, i think upgrading my network manager is causing me a new bug.. my wifi internet connection gets lost after a few minutes after boot. dmesg says: [ 222.897908] ppdev0: registered pardevice - [ 222.945402] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice .. etc | 22:52 |
krychek | is this a known thing? | 22:52 |
bdmurray | I'm not familiar with it. Have you looked at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bugs ? | 22:53 |
krychek | i will, thanks | 22:55 |
krychek | i think network manager really needs a help button | 22:55 |
krychek | and i have network manager applet finally after todays upgrade, its just not good for anything, everything is grayed out | 22:57 |
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azimout | can someone please take a look at this one? | 23:54 |
azimout | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/185725 | 23:54 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 185725 in ubuntu-meta "[hardy] hotkey-setup should be removed (obsoleted by hal)" [Wishlist,New] | 23:54 |
bdmurray | azimout: I believe there is a push to review whether or not it is needed during the Jaunty development cycle | 23:58 |
azimout | so, what does this mean? should i create a blueprint, or do nothing, or what? | 23:59 |
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