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| yotux | can I do a lvm install from the livecd? | 02:20 |
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| yotux | !lvm | 02:21 |
| Zinn | Sorry I don't know about lvm | 02:21 |
| tritium | Good evening. | 02:41 |
| culinarian | how do I go about editing my hosts file... get "Can't open file to write!" message when I try to save changes? | 03:43 |
| hads | How are you trying to edit it? | 03:45 |
| culinarian | I just dbl clk on the hosts file in the file mgr. | 03:46 |
| hads | And I assume you mean /etc/hosts ? | 03:46 |
| culinarian | yes | 03:46 |
| hads | Press Alt+F2 and type; gksu gedit /etc/hosts | 03:47 |
| culinarian | *slightly confused* did it just reopen the editor with permissions? | 03:50 |
| hads | Yes, that gave you root permissions, which you need to edit that file. | 03:51 |
| hads | Try not to break things ;) | 03:52 |
| culinarian | should I have closed the file previously and reopened it, if not, I still can't save | 03:52 |
| culinarian | hads? no luck.. :( | 04:01 |
| hads | That will work. | 04:01 |
| hads | Yes, you should have closed gedit | 04:02 |
| culinarian | I don't believe it's gedit... I think it's mousepad | 04:02 |
| culinarian | yup, mousepad | 04:03 |
| hads | What is mousepad? | 04:03 |
| culinarian | do I need to install gedit? apparently mousepad is the text editor for Xfce | 04:03 |
| hads | Oh okay, then do; gksu mousepad /etc/hosts | 04:04 |
| culinarian | it's the default open with for text and editable files | 04:04 |
| culinarian | ok, I'll do that then | 04:04 |
| hads | I don't use the mythbuntu desktop | 04:04 |
| culinarian | this is a learning machine for me.. so if I break something.. I'll just wipe and reinstall | 04:05 |
| culinarian | nothing vital on here | 04:05 |
| hads | What are you trying to do in /etc/hosts? | 04:05 |
| culinarian | following a how to for adding permanent shares at boot | 04:06 |
| culinarian | http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/2005/11/28/howto-use-cifs-instead-of-smbfs/ | 04:07 |
| culinarian | like I said, learning as I go | 04:07 |
| hads | Since you're learning; 'gksu' is a GUI frontend to 'sudo' which is a program to give you super user (root) privlidges. 'sudo' is Super User Do | 04:07 |
| culinarian | I guessed thats what the su was. how is it GUI though? or is it the fact that it allows you to launch GUI programs as su? | 04:08 |
| hads | OK, no problem with adding a host to the hosts file. I only mentioned the breaking thing as if you edit the hostname of your local box you can potentially lock yourself out. | 04:09 |
| culinarian | yeah, I already found out there's no root on mythbuntu apparently but I haven't delved into the sudo stuff much yet | 04:10 |
| culinarian | thanks for the help. I'll be back when I break something :D | 04:10 |
| hads | GUI as in it will pop up a GUI for you to enter your password. You also should use it rather than the command line 'sudo' when running graphical apps so that your environment is setup properly. | 04:10 |
| hads | No problem. | 04:10 |
| * cann yawns | 07:14 | |
| cann | morning | 07:14 |
| Cool_Nick | Im new to mythtv. I have a card that Xawtv and VLC work with. Its 4 composites in using a bt878 chip. I tried setting it up with a fake source and no source. backend complains about getting/setting channels. (My card is composite, no channels) | 07:23 |
| Cool_Nick | well, the new error is the same but also no sources | 07:56 |
| Cool_Nick | hmm go tit to the point where screen goes black and freezes | 08:22 |
| Cool_Nick | hmm, the machine now loads up to freeze as mythtv loads up automatically | 08:33 |
| Cool_Nick | I think the only thing I changed that matterred was the external command for source, I set to echo | 08:34 |
| Cool_Nick | I messed something up last night, and was wondering how to put settings to defaults (messed up as it freezes my machien now when software loads...which is on boot-up) | 14:10 |
| jphillip | Cool_Nick should be able to purge the db and reinstall it | 14:14 |
| jphillip | can do this either with dpgk or with synaptic, whatever you prefer | 14:16 |
| jphillip | package should be mythtv-database, and it may remove some of the other mythtv packages, so backup anything you'd like to keep | 14:17 |
| Cool_Nick | do you know how I can load it up with out the mythtv software loading. when it loads the machien crashes | 14:40 |
| Cool_Nick | Having problems getting my bt878 card working. It works for other programs not myth tv. Ive set it up to either complain about not being able to set a channel or to freeze on a black screen with watch tv. | 15:22 |
| Cool_Nick | BTW...My card does NOT have a tuner | 15:27 |
| frink_ | hey | 15:41 |
| frink_ | myth assumes you have the card connected to something that DOES have a tuner | 15:41 |
| frink_ | like a sat or cable receiver. It'd then use IR blaster to change channels on that. | 15:41 |
| frink_ | So the external tuner will have channels and the bt878 card will be used to digitise that video and get it into myth. | 15:42 |
| Cool_Nick | Then how do I find out what myths real problem is? | 15:43 |
| Cool_Nick | ...with my card. The onyl errors I saw were about the tuner | 15:43 |
| fabbione | hi | 16:10 |
| superm1 | !hi | 16:10 |
| Zinn | Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? | 16:10 |
| fabbione | eheh | 16:10 |
| fabbione | superm1: wishlist request for mythvideo | 16:11 |
| fabbione | superm1: would it make sense to split mtd in a separate package with a proper init script? | 16:11 |
| fabbione | mtd being the transcode daemon stuff | 16:11 |
| superm1 | fabbione, why? | 16:11 |
| fabbione | because I have a super fast machine to do encoding | 16:12 |
| fabbione | but i don't want to install full frontend | 16:12 |
| fabbione | only what's required to encode | 16:12 |
| superm1 | can it be configured/used though without the frontend? | 16:12 |
| fabbione | no, but it can live on a separate machine | 16:13 |
| fabbione | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MTD#Forwarding_MythFrontend_to_a_remote_MTD | 16:13 |
| fabbione | frontend don't need a lot of horse powers | 16:14 |
| superm1 | seems like a corner case to be doing that for | 16:14 |
| fabbione | maybe... | 16:14 |
| superm1 | especially since you need to use xinetd and all | 16:14 |
| fabbione | well that's an example | 16:14 |
| fabbione | there are tons of ways to do tcp tunnelling | 16:14 |
| superm1 | but i mean the fact that you have to tunnel it | 16:14 |
| fabbione | even without xinet | 16:15 |
| superm1 | that you can't just use a remote mtd from the UI | 16:15 |
| fabbione | the UI is only missing the IP address part of it | 16:15 |
| fabbione | so my idea was to just split mtd into its own package | 16:15 |
| fabbione | so i can decide where to isntall it | 16:15 |
| fabbione | and how to run it | 16:15 |
| superm1 | sure. well if you want to propose a patch to the packaging to do so i wont be entirely opposed. if/when upstream splits it out with options in the UI for remote, i'd split it myself in packaging then | 16:16 |
| fabbione | superm1: i am fine to wait for upstream. it was just a suggestion/wishlist :) | 16:18 |
| fabbione | btw.. the packages in Intrepid looks really really shiny | 16:41 |
| fabbione | i have 2 backends and 2 frontends working here right now | 16:42 |
| fabbione | only glitch being a couple of kernel drivers that don't work properly yet | 16:42 |
| fabbione | but i am fixing those :) | 16:42 |
| superm1 | they're getting shinier in jaunty too. | 16:42 |
| superm1 | trying to cover more corner cases during install | 16:42 |
| fabbione | i won't run jaunty for now | 16:42 |
| fabbione | not on those machines | 16:42 |
| superm1 | dont blame you :) | 16:42 |
| fabbione | keep in mind i do raw install here | 16:43 |
| superm1 | i only run it on one machine, and that's just because its a dev type of machine | 16:43 |
| fabbione | i don't use any of those tasks or live cd or anything | 16:43 |
| fabbione | isntall bare server | 16:43 |
| fabbione | apt-get isntall xorg | 16:43 |
| fabbione | apt-get install mythtv-bits | 16:43 |
| fabbione | that's ll | 16:43 |
| fabbione | all the config is done manually | 16:43 |
| superm1 | why? you miss the nicer features that do config for you then? | 16:44 |
| fabbione | there is no way on earth that you can hit what I have here | 16:44 |
| fabbione | i promise you that :) | 16:44 |
| superm1 | well other than the ones that are more of frontends for debconf | 16:44 |
| superm1 | alright... | 16:44 |
| fabbione | stuff like Live cd doesn't handle raid or lvm (unless they fixed that recently) | 16:44 |
| fabbione | and with 8TB storage on the main backend, I can't just do single disks :) | 16:45 |
| fabbione | superm1: for instance.. does your "installer" etc. handle with dvb adapter renames? | 16:45 |
| superm1 | unfortunately LVM and RAID still aren't entering for the jaunty live disks either. it's not a priority for the foundations team (who does the core of the installer we use) until there are good tools for administering it off of command line | 16:45 |
| superm1 | other than command line i mean | 16:46 |
| fabbione | yeah i know | 16:46 |
| fabbione | no worried.. i am not blaming you | 16:46 |
| superm1 | dvb adapter renames? you mean via udev rules? | 16:46 |
| fabbione | superm1: no.. for example I have 4 DVB-S and 3 DVB-T cards in one of my backends | 16:46 |
| fabbione | _often_ they all start as dvb-s1 dvb-s2... dvb-t1.. etc | 16:47 |
| fabbione | sometimes there is race at boot | 16:47 |
| superm1 | oh yuck | 16:47 |
| fabbione | and dvb-t1 becomes adapter0 | 16:47 |
| fabbione | so all of that stuff requires manual work :) | 16:47 |
| superm1 | so udev rules really would be a good idea for those things anyway | 16:47 |
| fabbione | i thought about it | 16:47 |
| fabbione | but for now i am happy enough to do manual | 16:48 |
| fabbione | plus that machine is not going to be rebooted any time soon for testing ;) | 16:48 |
| fabbione | anyway.. thanks for the nice work guys | 16:49 |
| fabbione | it's appreciated | 16:49 |
| fabbione | now.. back to kernel dvb hacking | 16:49 |
| fabbione | need to fix 2/3 frontneds init race | 16:49 |
| superm1 | have fun :) | 16:50 |
| fabbione | thanks | 16:51 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | Hello, I just recently installed MythBuntu 8.10. I have gui up and running however runing Applications > Mutltimedia > MythTV front end Gives, "No UpNP backends Found" I have tried starting and stoping myslq/mythbackend and a combination of both. Looking throught the forums it seems that some people have same issues but no direct respone. THe "SOLVED" issues realating to this UPNP message is not from a fresh install. An | 16:56 |
| superm1 | !permissions | 16:57 |
| Zinn | Sorry I don't know about permissions | 16:57 |
| superm1 | psh what's that one that Zinn says about /var/log/mythtv/ | 16:58 |
| superm1 | !logs | 16:58 |
| Zinn | MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use Mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. | 16:58 |
| superm1 | yeah. odds are the tail of one of those logs will tell you | 16:58 |
| superm1 | MythbuntuGuest38, so run mythbuntu-log-grabber | 16:59 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | ok its now posted | 16:59 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | the link is http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f6e36583b | 17:00 |
| superm1 | so something's wrong with your database | 17:01 |
| superm1 | try dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database. if you have a root mysql password be sure to enter it. if you dont, then dont enter one :) | 17:01 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | ok i ran dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database | 17:05 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | ok that looks better mythtrv frount end is giving me main menu | 17:06 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | weird i wonder what happened, this was fresh install | 17:06 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | with pretty much defaults | 17:06 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | but thank you! | 17:07 |
| superm1 | MythbuntuGuest38, did you have any non alphanumeric characters in your root mysql password? | 17:14 |
| superm1 | if so, that might have been the root cause here, and i've got a solution for jaunty i'm trying out | 17:14 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | no they were all letters | 17:15 |
| superm1 | hm so must have been something else | 17:15 |
| superm1 | you installed from the live cd though? | 17:15 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | Correct, alhtough not from live enviroment | 17:18 |
| superm1 | er so you used the alternate cd? | 17:19 |
| superm1 | or the live cd | 17:19 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | Does the alternate cd have an option to boot into live enviroment? | 17:20 |
| superm1 | no it doesnt. but if you use the alternate (text installer), that's exactly why this came up | 17:20 |
| superm1 | there's a bug with it that you have to manually do this step post install | 17:20 |
| superm1 | we're getting rid of that alternate cd for the next release for that reason | 17:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | Ok yes than that was my issue, I only had the text install | 17:21 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | glad that will be fixed | 17:22 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | I didnt see that bug looking through fourms | 17:22 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | nor on a sticky or anythign | 17:22 |
| superm1 | it might be in the documentation, if not, it should be :) | 17:24 |
| MythbuntuGuest38 | Lol, well thank you | 17:25 |
| linux-hdtv | Hi, is there a graphics card with mp4/mkv accelleration for linux ? | 17:53 |
| superm1 | linux-hdtv, there is experimental support entering nvidia cards that will accelerate H264 | 17:56 |
| superm1 | but those are both containers you referred to | 17:56 |
| superm1 | they may contain H264, xvid, divx, etc | 17:57 |
| linux-hdtv | thanks, superm1. is this a proprietary driver for new cards ? | 17:58 |
| superm1 | linux-hdtv, yeah google for VDPAU and you can read a little more about it | 17:59 |
| superm1 | it's only going to be supported in mythtv 0.22 and later (unreleased at this point) | 17:59 |
| superm1 | currently though, alot of those same cards support mpeg2 acceleration that you can use with 0.21 and later | 17:59 |
| linux-hdtv | for windows, support is already there, right ? ATI with UVD2 and Nvidia with VP2, accelleration for decoding and encoding. | 18:00 |
| superm1 | i dont follow it on windows, sorry | 18:02 |
| linux-hdtv | how are people watching compressed HDTV files ? with dedicated CPUs ? | 18:02 |
| superm1 | according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU it's the same of DxVA on windows | 18:02 |
| superm1 | at this point yes for third party files. most people using myth record their files in MPEG2 however, and since MPEG2 is accelerated just keep them in that format | 18:03 |
| linux-hdtv | i see. i watch mostly files exchanged on p2p. | 18:04 |
| linux-hdtv | the advantage is only one capper is needed, and much more space for an extended archive. | 18:06 |
| linux-hdtv | i guess you use TV displays mainly ? | 18:07 |
| superm1 | yes | 18:07 |
| superm1 | this project is centered more around tv recording, whereas a project like xbmc or elisa probably makes more sense for you | 18:07 |
| linux-hdtv | i'm on the cheaper computer displays. problem is they mostly have the PSU integrated, and they make disturbing humming noises just in front of your face. | 18:09 |
| linux-hdtv | i wonder if it would be difficult to extract it and place it on the floor. | 18:09 |
| culinarian1 | so if I tried to mount network shares with smb, cifs and then ssh, will they cause conflicts with each other?? the closest I got to getting a network folder to mount was with ssh but it returned "connection reset by peer" msg. | 19:31 |
| Cool_Nick | Is it possible to use an input without a tuner card? I can't seem to get around it. | 21:46 |
| dashcloud | how would you get anything in without a tuner card? | 22:09 |
| tgm4883_laptop | Cool_Nick, what input are you trying to use? | 23:08 |
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