=== stoneymonster is now known as stoneymonster|aw === stoneymonster|aw is now known as stoneymonster [02:20] can I do a lvm install from the livecd? [02:21] !lvm [02:21] Sorry I don't know about lvm [02:41] Good evening. [03:43] how do I go about editing my hosts file... get "Can't open file to write!" message when I try to save changes? [03:45] How are you trying to edit it? [03:46] I just dbl clk on the hosts file in the file mgr. [03:46] And I assume you mean /etc/hosts ? [03:46] yes [03:47] Press Alt+F2 and type; gksu gedit /etc/hosts [03:50] *slightly confused* did it just reopen the editor with permissions? [03:51] Yes, that gave you root permissions, which you need to edit that file. [03:52] Try not to break things ;) [03:52] should I have closed the file previously and reopened it, if not, I still can't save [04:01] hads? no luck.. :( [04:01] That will work. [04:02] Yes, you should have closed gedit [04:02] I don't believe it's gedit... I think it's mousepad [04:03] yup, mousepad [04:03] What is mousepad? [04:03] do I need to install gedit? apparently mousepad is the text editor for Xfce [04:04] Oh okay, then do; gksu mousepad /etc/hosts [04:04] it's the default open with for text and editable files [04:04] ok, I'll do that then [04:04] I don't use the mythbuntu desktop [04:05] this is a learning machine for me.. so if I break something.. I'll just wipe and reinstall [04:05] nothing vital on here [04:05] What are you trying to do in /etc/hosts? [04:06] following a how to for adding permanent shares at boot [04:07] http://opensource.weblogsinc.com/2005/11/28/howto-use-cifs-instead-of-smbfs/ [04:07] like I said, learning as I go [04:07] Since you're learning; 'gksu' is a GUI frontend to 'sudo' which is a program to give you super user (root) privlidges. 'sudo' is Super User Do [04:08] I guessed thats what the su was. how is it GUI though? or is it the fact that it allows you to launch GUI programs as su? [04:09] OK, no problem with adding a host to the hosts file. I only mentioned the breaking thing as if you edit the hostname of your local box you can potentially lock yourself out. [04:10] yeah, I already found out there's no root on mythbuntu apparently but I haven't delved into the sudo stuff much yet [04:10] thanks for the help. I'll be back when I break something :D [04:10] GUI as in it will pop up a GUI for you to enter your password. You also should use it rather than the command line 'sudo' when running graphical apps so that your environment is setup properly. [04:10] No problem. [07:14] * cann yawns [07:14] morning [07:23] Im new to mythtv. I have a card that Xawtv and VLC work with. Its 4 composites in using a bt878 chip. I tried setting it up with a fake source and no source. backend complains about getting/setting channels. (My card is composite, no channels) [07:56] well, the new error is the same but also no sources [08:22] hmm go tit to the point where screen goes black and freezes [08:33] hmm, the machine now loads up to freeze as mythtv loads up automatically [08:34] I think the only thing I changed that matterred was the external command for source, I set to echo [14:10] I messed something up last night, and was wondering how to put settings to defaults (messed up as it freezes my machien now when software loads...which is on boot-up) [14:14] Cool_Nick should be able to purge the db and reinstall it [14:16] can do this either with dpgk or with synaptic, whatever you prefer [14:17] package should be mythtv-database, and it may remove some of the other mythtv packages, so backup anything you'd like to keep [14:40] do you know how I can load it up with out the mythtv software loading. when it loads the machien crashes [15:22] Having problems getting my bt878 card working. It works for other programs not myth tv. Ive set it up to either complain about not being able to set a channel or to freeze on a black screen with watch tv. [15:27] BTW...My card does NOT have a tuner [15:41] hey [15:41] myth assumes you have the card connected to something that DOES have a tuner [15:41] like a sat or cable receiver. It'd then use IR blaster to change channels on that. [15:42] So the external tuner will have channels and the bt878 card will be used to digitise that video and get it into myth. [15:43] Then how do I find out what myths real problem is? [15:43] ...with my card. The onyl errors I saw were about the tuner [16:10] hi [16:10] !hi [16:10] Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [16:10] eheh [16:11] superm1: wishlist request for mythvideo [16:11] superm1: would it make sense to split mtd in a separate package with a proper init script? [16:11] mtd being the transcode daemon stuff [16:11] fabbione, why? [16:12] because I have a super fast machine to do encoding [16:12] but i don't want to install full frontend [16:12] only what's required to encode [16:12] can it be configured/used though without the frontend? [16:13] no, but it can live on a separate machine [16:13] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MTD#Forwarding_MythFrontend_to_a_remote_MTD [16:14] frontend don't need a lot of horse powers [16:14] seems like a corner case to be doing that for [16:14] maybe... [16:14] especially since you need to use xinetd and all [16:14] well that's an example [16:14] there are tons of ways to do tcp tunnelling [16:14] but i mean the fact that you have to tunnel it [16:15] even without xinet [16:15] that you can't just use a remote mtd from the UI [16:15] the UI is only missing the IP address part of it [16:15] so my idea was to just split mtd into its own package [16:15] so i can decide where to isntall it [16:15] and how to run it [16:16] sure. well if you want to propose a patch to the packaging to do so i wont be entirely opposed. if/when upstream splits it out with options in the UI for remote, i'd split it myself in packaging then [16:18] superm1: i am fine to wait for upstream. it was just a suggestion/wishlist :) [16:41] btw.. the packages in Intrepid looks really really shiny [16:42] i have 2 backends and 2 frontends working here right now [16:42] only glitch being a couple of kernel drivers that don't work properly yet [16:42] but i am fixing those :) [16:42] they're getting shinier in jaunty too. [16:42] trying to cover more corner cases during install [16:42] i won't run jaunty for now [16:42] not on those machines [16:42] dont blame you :) [16:43] keep in mind i do raw install here [16:43] i only run it on one machine, and that's just because its a dev type of machine [16:43] i don't use any of those tasks or live cd or anything [16:43] isntall bare server [16:43] apt-get isntall xorg [16:43] apt-get install mythtv-bits [16:43] that's ll [16:43] all the config is done manually [16:44] why? you miss the nicer features that do config for you then? [16:44] there is no way on earth that you can hit what I have here [16:44] i promise you that :) [16:44] well other than the ones that are more of frontends for debconf [16:44] alright... [16:44] stuff like Live cd doesn't handle raid or lvm (unless they fixed that recently) [16:45] and with 8TB storage on the main backend, I can't just do single disks :) [16:45] superm1: for instance.. does your "installer" etc. handle with dvb adapter renames? [16:45] unfortunately LVM and RAID still aren't entering for the jaunty live disks either. it's not a priority for the foundations team (who does the core of the installer we use) until there are good tools for administering it off of command line [16:46] other than command line i mean [16:46] yeah i know [16:46] no worried.. i am not blaming you [16:46] dvb adapter renames? you mean via udev rules? [16:46] superm1: no.. for example I have 4 DVB-S and 3 DVB-T cards in one of my backends [16:47] _often_ they all start as dvb-s1 dvb-s2... dvb-t1.. etc [16:47] sometimes there is race at boot [16:47] oh yuck [16:47] and dvb-t1 becomes adapter0 [16:47] so all of that stuff requires manual work :) [16:47] so udev rules really would be a good idea for those things anyway [16:47] i thought about it [16:48] but for now i am happy enough to do manual [16:48] plus that machine is not going to be rebooted any time soon for testing ;) [16:49] anyway.. thanks for the nice work guys [16:49] it's appreciated [16:49] now.. back to kernel dvb hacking [16:49] need to fix 2/3 frontneds init race [16:50] have fun :) [16:51] thanks [16:56] Hello, I just recently installed MythBuntu 8.10. I have gui up and running however runing Applications > Mutltimedia > MythTV front end Gives, "No UpNP backends Found" I have tried starting and stoping myslq/mythbackend and a combination of both. Looking throught the forums it seems that some people have same issues but no direct respone. THe "SOLVED" issues realating to this UPNP message is not from a fresh install. An [16:57] !permissions [16:57] Sorry I don't know about permissions [16:58] psh what's that one that Zinn says about /var/log/mythtv/ [16:58] !logs [16:58] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use Mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. [16:58] yeah. odds are the tail of one of those logs will tell you [16:59] MythbuntuGuest38, so run mythbuntu-log-grabber [16:59] ok its now posted [17:00] the link is http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f6e36583b [17:01] so something's wrong with your database [17:01] try dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database. if you have a root mysql password be sure to enter it. if you dont, then dont enter one :) [17:05] ok i ran dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [17:06] ok that looks better mythtrv frount end is giving me main menu [17:06] weird i wonder what happened, this was fresh install [17:06] with pretty much defaults [17:07] but thank you! [17:14] MythbuntuGuest38, did you have any non alphanumeric characters in your root mysql password? [17:14] if so, that might have been the root cause here, and i've got a solution for jaunty i'm trying out [17:15] no they were all letters [17:15] hm so must have been something else [17:15] you installed from the live cd though? [17:18] Correct, alhtough not from live enviroment [17:19] er so you used the alternate cd? [17:19] or the live cd [17:20] Does the alternate cd have an option to boot into live enviroment? [17:20] no it doesnt. but if you use the alternate (text installer), that's exactly why this came up [17:20] there's a bug with it that you have to manually do this step post install [17:21] we're getting rid of that alternate cd for the next release for that reason [17:21] Ok yes than that was my issue, I only had the text install [17:22] glad that will be fixed [17:22] I didnt see that bug looking through fourms [17:22] nor on a sticky or anythign [17:24] it might be in the documentation, if not, it should be :) [17:25] Lol, well thank you [17:53] Hi, is there a graphics card with mp4/mkv accelleration for linux ? [17:56] linux-hdtv, there is experimental support entering nvidia cards that will accelerate H264 [17:56] but those are both containers you referred to [17:57] they may contain H264, xvid, divx, etc [17:58] thanks, superm1. is this a proprietary driver for new cards ? [17:59] linux-hdtv, yeah google for VDPAU and you can read a little more about it [17:59] it's only going to be supported in mythtv 0.22 and later (unreleased at this point) [17:59] currently though, alot of those same cards support mpeg2 acceleration that you can use with 0.21 and later [18:00] for windows, support is already there, right ? ATI with UVD2 and Nvidia with VP2, accelleration for decoding and encoding. [18:02] i dont follow it on windows, sorry [18:02] how are people watching compressed HDTV files ? with dedicated CPUs ? [18:02] according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU it's the same of DxVA on windows [18:03] at this point yes for third party files. most people using myth record their files in MPEG2 however, and since MPEG2 is accelerated just keep them in that format [18:04] i see. i watch mostly files exchanged on p2p. [18:06] the advantage is only one capper is needed, and much more space for an extended archive. [18:07] i guess you use TV displays mainly ? [18:07] yes [18:07] this project is centered more around tv recording, whereas a project like xbmc or elisa probably makes more sense for you [18:09] i'm on the cheaper computer displays. problem is they mostly have the PSU integrated, and they make disturbing humming noises just in front of your face. [18:09] i wonder if it would be difficult to extract it and place it on the floor. [19:31] so if I tried to mount network shares with smb, cifs and then ssh, will they cause conflicts with each other?? the closest I got to getting a network folder to mount was with ssh but it returned "connection reset by peer" msg. [21:46] Is it possible to use an input without a tuner card? I can't seem to get around it. [22:09] how would you get anything in without a tuner card? [23:08] Cool_Nick, what input are you trying to use?