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thorwilnewz2000: ping16:44
newz2000hey thorwil16:44
thorwilnewz2000: hi! i'm sorry to have to bug you again, but i still see a stretched bulb on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate16:44
newz2000really?16:45
* newz2000 checks16:45
newz2000is this the graphic you made me? http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/idea-logo.png16:45
thorwilyes, looks like it16:45
newz2000oh, img tag has wrong width16:46
newz2000thorwil: ok, looks fixed17:00
thorwilnewz2000: good. guess have to wait because of caching again17:01
newz2000no, it's live now17:01
newz2000try shift+reload17:01
thorwilno luck so far17:02
newz2000that image doesn't look like it has alpha transparency, I wonder if this is the old one17:02
nandlooks now perfect here!17:07
thorwilah yes, now it does here, too17:10
Turlanyone has IE here?18:17
newz2000sorry, not handy at the moment18:17
jpdsnewz2000: Can you remove the "h" at the end of http://www.canonical.com/aboutus ?18:18
newz2000the h at the end of what?18:19
newz20000h18:19
newz2000I see it. That's funny. :-)18:19
jpdsAt the end of the page.18:19
newz2000Are you sure we should kill it? I think we should keep it as a pet.18:19
jpdsnewz2000: I got an RT ticket on it. Thought I'd prod you directly.18:19
newz2000efficient communication is good18:20
jpdsYou could keep it, you are webmaster, your choice. ;)18:20
newz2000gone. There was a remarkable amount of html for that one little letter18:21
jpdsI'll close the ticket on it. Thanks.18:21
newz2000my pleasure. ;-)18:21
jpdsnewz2000: Were you at UDS? I didn't see you.18:23
newz2000no, never been to a UDS18:23
newz2000it tends to be more development oriented18:24
newz2000I did go to some awesome drupal training last week though. :-)18:24
Turlnewz2000: do you know php?18:25
newz2000Turl: yes18:25
Turlnewz2000: then a quick question, what encoding are the vars in $_GET in?18:25
newz2000url encoding18:25
newz2000oh, do you mean charset?18:26
Turlyeah, charset18:26
Turlis it UTF8?18:26
newz2000I don't know about php 5.2 but in previous versions you didn't know for sure18:26
newz2000the client will often include a header explaining the charset, I don't know if php is smart enough to make this available to you (app dev)18:27
Turlthanks :)18:27
newz2000I've had numerous problems with this because of cp1252 format18:27
Turlany way to view the charset at IE?18:27
jpdsnewz2000: Maybe we should put a <br /> at the end of the page? Looks like the line and the text are too close.18:28
newz2000yes it does, I agree18:28
newz2000better, fix the template, but that won't happen today18:29
jpdsOK, thanks. :)18:29
TurlARGGG I'll kick whoever coded IE!18:33
Turlwouldn't you?18:33
newz2000waht's happening Turl?18:33
TurlIE won't read utf8 on titles :/18:34
Turlnor it would read entities :/18:34
newz2000oh, what entity?18:34
Turlsorry, the entities part was my fault18:35
Turlbut it wont read utf818:35
newz2000jpds: ok, padding at the bottom of the page now18:35
newz2000Turl: yes, that's not surprising18:36
newz2000Turl: do you have a doctype on your page?18:36
Turland it 'eats' the entities now :S18:36
Turlyeah XHTML doctype18:36
Turl<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN""http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">18:36
newz2000if entities are disapering it may be that you're using an entity that is not in the font IE uses18:36
jpdsLooks great now.18:36
newz2000Turl: check your page, ensure it validates as xhmlt 1.118:36
newz2000I hate it when people say that to me but it really is the first thing to check18:37
TurlI also hate it T_T18:38
* newz2000 is sorry18:38
Turlit used to validate, but I'll check again18:38
Turlnevertheless, does IE have a standards mode? :p18:38
Turlafaik it only has quirks :p18:38
newz2000yes it does and it's very important to be in standards mode18:38
newz2000(since at least v6)18:39
TurlI was being sarcastic :p18:39
newz2000oh, I see18:39
newz2000That's one of those lessons that caused me a lot of frustration18:39
Turlw3 validator gave me an empty page :O18:40
newz2000it doesn't like you18:41
newz2000I was helping a friend last night and his page had such invalid HTML that firefox kept crashing and eventually my entire desktop locked up.18:41
TurlLOL18:42
Turland LOL again, it started working as if magic :o18:43
Turland it's valid ;) http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbeta.n-mp3.com%2Fes%2Findex.php%3Fsearch%3DSigur%2520R%25C3%25B3s&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=018:43
newz2000and yet IE still won't show your entities?18:44
Turlit works now as if magic, idk what happened :p18:44
Turlhope it doesn't break again18:45
newz2000Let's sing a song of praise for IE18:45
Turldo you know what can make ie show a tremendous white space between two elements? that would also be of help :p18:45
newz2000well, that's a bit vague, but do you have a table? html tags in between TD's or TR's (in incorrect ways) often causes that18:46
Turlno table18:48
Turlgo and take a look by yourself http://beta.n-mp3.com/en/index.php?search=Coldplay18:49
Turlit's the space between the header and the adsense block18:50
newz2000looks good in firefox. :-)18:50
TurlIE is the problem ;)18:52
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