[16:44] newz2000: ping [16:44] hey thorwil [16:44] newz2000: hi! i'm sorry to have to bug you again, but i still see a stretched bulb on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate [16:45] really? [16:45] * newz2000 checks [16:45] is this the graphic you made me? http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/idea-logo.png [16:45] yes, looks like it [16:46] oh, img tag has wrong width [17:00] thorwil: ok, looks fixed [17:01] newz2000: good. guess have to wait because of caching again [17:01] no, it's live now [17:01] try shift+reload [17:02] no luck so far [17:02] that image doesn't look like it has alpha transparency, I wonder if this is the old one [17:07] looks now perfect here! [17:10] ah yes, now it does here, too [18:17] anyone has IE here? [18:17] sorry, not handy at the moment [18:18] newz2000: Can you remove the "h" at the end of http://www.canonical.com/aboutus ? [18:19] the h at the end of what? [18:19] 0h [18:19] I see it. That's funny. :-) [18:19] At the end of the page. [18:19] Are you sure we should kill it? I think we should keep it as a pet. [18:19] newz2000: I got an RT ticket on it. Thought I'd prod you directly. [18:20] efficient communication is good [18:20] You could keep it, you are webmaster, your choice. ;) [18:21] gone. There was a remarkable amount of html for that one little letter [18:21] I'll close the ticket on it. Thanks. [18:21] my pleasure. ;-) [18:23] newz2000: Were you at UDS? I didn't see you. [18:23] no, never been to a UDS [18:24] it tends to be more development oriented [18:24] I did go to some awesome drupal training last week though. :-) [18:25] newz2000: do you know php? [18:25] Turl: yes [18:25] newz2000: then a quick question, what encoding are the vars in $_GET in? [18:25] url encoding [18:26] oh, do you mean charset? [18:26] yeah, charset [18:26] is it UTF8? [18:26] I don't know about php 5.2 but in previous versions you didn't know for sure [18:27] the client will often include a header explaining the charset, I don't know if php is smart enough to make this available to you (app dev) [18:27] thanks :) [18:27] I've had numerous problems with this because of cp1252 format [18:27] any way to view the charset at IE? [18:28] newz2000: Maybe we should put a
at the end of the page? Looks like the line and the text are too close. [18:28] yes it does, I agree [18:29] better, fix the template, but that won't happen today [18:29] OK, thanks. :) [18:33] ARGGG I'll kick whoever coded IE! [18:33] wouldn't you? [18:33] waht's happening Turl? [18:34] IE won't read utf8 on titles :/ [18:34] nor it would read entities :/ [18:34] oh, what entity? [18:35] sorry, the entities part was my fault [18:35] but it wont read utf8 [18:35] jpds: ok, padding at the bottom of the page now [18:36] Turl: yes, that's not surprising [18:36] Turl: do you have a doctype on your page? [18:36] and it 'eats' the entities now :S [18:36] yeah XHTML doctype [18:36] [18:36] if entities are disapering it may be that you're using an entity that is not in the font IE uses [18:36] Looks great now. [18:36] Turl: check your page, ensure it validates as xhmlt 1.1 [18:37] I hate it when people say that to me but it really is the first thing to check [18:38] I also hate it T_T [18:38] * newz2000 is sorry [18:38] it used to validate, but I'll check again [18:38] nevertheless, does IE have a standards mode? :p [18:38] afaik it only has quirks :p [18:38] yes it does and it's very important to be in standards mode [18:39] (since at least v6) [18:39] I was being sarcastic :p [18:39] oh, I see [18:39] That's one of those lessons that caused me a lot of frustration [18:40] w3 validator gave me an empty page :O [18:41] it doesn't like you [18:41] I was helping a friend last night and his page had such invalid HTML that firefox kept crashing and eventually my entire desktop locked up. [18:42] LOL [18:43] and LOL again, it started working as if magic :o [18:43] and it's valid ;) http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbeta.n-mp3.com%2Fes%2Findex.php%3Fsearch%3DSigur%2520R%25C3%25B3s&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 [18:44] and yet IE still won't show your entities? [18:44] it works now as if magic, idk what happened :p [18:45] hope it doesn't break again [18:45] Let's sing a song of praise for IE [18:45] do you know what can make ie show a tremendous white space between two elements? that would also be of help :p [18:46] well, that's a bit vague, but do you have a table? html tags in between TD's or TR's (in incorrect ways) often causes that [18:48] no table [18:49] go and take a look by yourself http://beta.n-mp3.com/en/index.php?search=Coldplay [18:50] it's the space between the header and the adsense block [18:50] looks good in firefox. :-) [18:52] IE is the problem ;) === Turl is now known as god1 === god1 is now known as yourgod === yourgod is now known as Turl