| superm1 | yeah i'm aware of that config file thing. i asked amd to not keep anything in /etc that's not a config file, but i might just add a mv_conffile clause to the postinst if i dont get a timely reply from them (which i dont expect) | 01:34 |
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| bryce | superm1: yeah I think that's a good idea | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Hrm, I can't rebuild xserver due to the new linux-libc-dev having /usr/include/drm/drm.h, which libdrm-dev also has. | 05:26 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: which version? mine doesn't have it | 05:59 |
| tjaalton | morning btw | 05:59 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: linux-libc-dev 2.6.28-3.4 | 05:59 |
| wgrant | I downgraded to -2.3 and it works fine. | 06:00 |
| wgrant | (I'm applying the patch to stop xserver segfaulting with -intel, which caused me some annoyance this morning, and it making apt unhappy) | 06:00 |
| tjaalton | hrm | 06:01 |
| bryce | heya | 06:06 |
| wgrant | tjaalton: Ergh, sorry, I meant to move that bug hours ago but got distracted. | 06:09 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: np | 06:11 |
| tjaalton | hi bryce | 06:11 |
| tjaalton | so the intel crash is fixed, but the kernel change means that anything that requires the drm headers fail to build | 06:12 |
| wgrant | Is the intel crash fixed? | 06:12 |
| tjaalton | upstrea | 06:13 |
| tjaalton | m | 06:13 |
| wgrant | Ah, yes. | 06:14 |
| wgrant | Server 1.6 has the new pointer acceleration algorithm, doesn't it? | 08:18 |
| wgrant | I'm trying to get -synaptics 0.99.3 working reasonably. | 08:19 |
| tjaalton | wgrant: yes it does | 08:20 |
| wgrant | -synaptics upstream has very strange defaults :( | 08:21 |
| wgrant | No tap-to-click if you have buttons, for example. | 08:21 |
| tjaalton | bryce: I'll try to fix vmmouse now, and see if it could be pushed upstream then | 08:42 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ok | 08:48 |
| tjaalton | bryce: I think we should get rid of a couple of packages, like x-x-v-tga and -vga | 09:32 |
| tjaalton | tga is usable only on alpha, and -vga is otherwise useless since we have vesa for x86 | 09:33 |
| tjaalton | both are already in universe | 09:33 |
| tjaalton | and have no bugs, ie. no one using them :) | 09:34 |
| tjaalton | bug 308504, bug 308505 | 09:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308504 in xserver-xorg-video-vga "please remove xserver-xorg-video-vga from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308504 | 09:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308505 in xserver-xorg-video-tga "please remove xserver-xorg-video-tga from the archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308505 | 09:39 |
| tjaalton | nvidia 180 seems to work but only with -ignoreABI | 11:08 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: did you try the other flavours too? | 11:13 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: nope | 11:14 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: in any case I'll have to try the drivers with the new X and (if they work) rebuild the packages | 11:15 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: can you force the ignoreABI in the drivers somehow? | 11:15 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: I guess not. It's something you can force in the xorg.conf | 11:16 |
| tjaalton | ok | 11:17 |
| mvo | hey tseliot! I was looking into the gnome-desktop update today and debian/patches/100_load_desired_settings.patch would need porting to the new 2.25.x code - could you please have a look? Is that somethign that can/should go upstream ? | 11:39 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: there's bug 308410 now.. where should the drivers be disabled, jockey? | 12:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308410 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 "Latest Xorg removes nvidia driver ... conflicting xorg-xserver-video-4" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308410 | 12:17 |
| tjaalton | oh, you owned that already | 12:18 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: I would like to install Jaunty and see how it goes here before I blacklist the driver | 12:18 |
| tjaalton | but it won't work anyway unless you force the option somewhere | 12:19 |
| tseliot | I'll see what I can do | 12:20 |
| * tseliot > lunch | 12:29 | |
| seb128 | tseliot: any news about the patch update? | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | 177 segfaults | 12:33 |
| seb128 | tseliot: hello | 13:22 |
| tseliot | seb128: I have to patch and test a package in intrepid but after that I'll work on your patch (I guess today) | 13:22 |
| seb128 | tseliot: ok, I'm going to drop the patch for now, it's blocking the whole GNOME for 2 weeks now | 13:22 |
| seb128 | tseliot: I really want to get moving on those updates before holidays | 13:23 |
| tseliot | seb128: ok, no problem | 13:23 |
| tseliot | seb128: I'll let you know when the patch is ready so that we can re-include it | 13:26 |
| seb128 | tseliot: ok thanks | 13:26 |
| seb128 | tseliot: where are the specific api used? | 13:37 |
| seb128 | ubuntu_gnome_rr_config_save_desired is used in g-c-c apparently but not g-s-d is that expected? | 13:37 |
| tseliot | seb128: g-s-d uses libgnome-desktop | 13:39 |
| seb128 | tseliot: right, but none of those new api you added right? | 13:40 |
| tseliot | therefore I didn't touch g-s-d directly | 13:40 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:40 |
| mvo | hm, this sounds like we should add a stub for now or wait until the patch is done | 13:41 |
| tseliot | seb128: does this reply to your question? | 13:41 |
| seb128 | I hate distro changes | 13:41 |
| tseliot | seb128: and so do I ;) | 13:41 |
| crevette | seb128, I have 3 days of starting tomorrow, so I can manage to help a little at least | 13:41 |
| crevette | +ff | 13:41 |
| crevette | off | 13:41 |
| seb128 | crevette: good thanks | 13:41 |
| seb128 | tseliot: could you look to this patch update before the intrepid changes? there is probably no hurry for intrepid but we are blocking jaunty updates on this update now | 13:42 |
| seb128 | I would say unblocking jaunty is higher priority than intrepid | 13:42 |
| tseliot | seb128: ok, I'll do it now | 13:43 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:43 |
| tseliot | seb128: did you put your source somewhere? | 13:43 |
| tseliot | the new control-center which doesn't build, I mean | 13:43 |
| tseliot | and the new libgnome-desktop | 13:44 |
| seb128 | mvo has the new g-c-c | 13:44 |
| mvo | tseliot: new gnome-contorl-center is ported and in bzr | 13:44 |
| mvo | tseliot: that should fine | 13:44 |
| seb128 | tseliot: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/gnome-desktop_2.25.3-0ubuntu1.diff.gz http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/gnome-desktop_2.25.3-0ubuntu1.dsc http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-desktop/2.25/gnome-desktop-2.25.3.tar.gz | 13:45 |
| mvo | maybe we should put gnome-desktop into bzr too? so that we can easily work on it together? | 13:45 |
| tseliot | mvo: yes, please | 13:45 |
| * mvo waits for a yes/no from seb128 first | 13:45 | |
| seb128 | mvo: go for it | 13:45 |
| seb128 | mvo: let me now if you put the current jaunty version and if I should push my changes or if you want to put directly my version there | 13:46 |
| mvo | seb128: I will put your version there I think | 13:47 |
| seb128 | mvo: ok cool | 13:47 |
| mvo | seb128: you are on VAC ;) so I can do it, no problem | 13:47 |
| seb128 | hehe, that's true | 13:47 |
| mvo | tseliot: bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/gnome-control-center/ubuntu ; cd ubuntu; bzr-buildpackage should give you the g-c-c bits | 13:48 |
| tseliot | mvo: ok, good. I think I have all I need now | 13:48 |
| * tseliot gets the source from bzr | 13:49 | |
| mvo | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/gnome-desktop/ubuntu | 13:58 |
| tseliot | mvo: ok, thanks | 13:59 |
| mvo | cheers, thanks for working on the patch update! | 14:00 |
| mvo | tseliot: hm, while g-c-c applies all patches the changes do not compile anymore, I'm having a look now (somewhere in the xrandr capplet) but will not have that much time unfortunately for it today) | 14:26 |
| tseliot | mvo: libgnome-desktop is the problem | 14:27 |
| tseliot | mvo: I'm working on it anyway | 14:27 |
| seb128 | mvo: that's because it requires the patch I commented in the gnome-desktop update | 14:28 |
| seb128 | mvo: or g-c-c requires upstream changes due to the new gnome-desktop api breakage | 14:29 |
| mvo | some it it is api changes (_rr_screen_new() needs e.g. a GError now etc) | 14:33 |
| mvo | some of it is the libgnome-desktop | 14:33 |
| mvo | I commit what I have | 14:33 |
| seb128 | mvo: look to the svn it's likely they updated the capplet there too | 14:34 |
| seb128 | I guess they will roll a new tarball soon | 14:34 |
| mvo | the changes required are trivial, but the fact that the file xrandr-capplet.c is touch in a bunch of different patches makes it not easy for me to see where it should be applied | 14:38 |
| mvo | (well, the api changes, not the changes to make libgnome-desktop work :) | 14:38 |
| mvo | tseliot: I fixed one of my mistakes in 80_apect_in_dropdown.patch in g-c-c (just FYI and to avoid duplication of work). still some smallish ones left, that seems to be just additions of a GError as last parameter | 15:31 |
| * mvo -> break | 15:31 | |
| tseliot | mvo: I'm still on the gnome-desktop part | 15:33 |
| tseliot | but thanks for letting me know | 15:33 |
| tseliot | mvo, seb128: libgnome-desktop builds again (in pbuilder) \o/ | 15:42 |
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| seb128 | tseliot: excellent ;-) | 15:46 |
| seb128 | tseliot: the change is ready to be used or do you want to do extra testing before? | 15:47 |
| tseliot | seb128: builds != works | 15:47 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:47 |
| tseliot | I built it in pbuilder only. I have to install Jaunty to make sure that | 15:47 |
| tseliot | it works | 15:47 |
| tseliot | s/I have/I want/ | 15:48 |
| seb128 | do you have the updated patch somewhere? | 15:49 |
| tseliot | seb128: I can upload it to my website if you want | 15:49 |
| tseliot | seb128, mvo: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/gnome/jaunty/100_load_desired_settings.patch | 15:53 |
| seb128 | tseliot: thanks | 15:55 |
| tseliot | seb128: I'll install Jaunty anyway since I'm really not confident with patches I didn't test myself (at runtime) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | ok, let me know, I'll probably delay the upload until tomorrow now, it's getting late for a round of upload, newing, transition etc today | 15:57 |
| tseliot | seb128: sure | 15:57 |
| mvo | tseliot: thanks, I check it out, feel free to upload it in bzr (but I'm fne with getting it from the website) | 17:09 |
| tseliot | mvo: I'm upgrading to Jaunty so as to try it at runtime. Then I'll put it in my bzr branch | 17:10 |
| bryce | tjaalton: removing packages - sounds good | 17:40 |
| tseliot | bryce: is it a known bug the fact that the intel driver segfaults on jaunty? (xf86setcrtcconfig() or something similar) | 17:53 |
| bryce | tseliot: which graphics chip? | 17:55 |
| bryce | tseliot: it worked ok when I tested it prior to UDS, but didn't retest it yesterday. I'll upgrade now and see | 17:56 |
| tjaalton | yes it's known, and fix released already, but xorg-server doesn't build because of the libdrm/linux-libc-dev deathmatch | 17:56 |
| bryce | ah ok | 17:56 |
| tseliot | ok | 17:56 |
| tseliot | the pci-id is 8086:27a2 anyway | 17:57 |
| bryce | ah ok 965 | 17:57 |
| tjaalton | bryce: could you confirm the removal bugs and subscribe ubuntu-archive? | 18:06 |
| tjaalton | I've requested -openchrome to be synced from experimental, there should be no changes left | 18:06 |
| tjaalton | that version merged the randr-branch, so a lot of the old bugs should get closed with it | 18:07 |
| tjaalton | (and new ones pop up, of course..) | 18:07 |
| tseliot | mvo: did you notice the compilation errors in xrandr-capplet.c? They don't depend on what I did. It looks like the author updated the function prototypes but the actual functions don't reflect these changes (e.g. line 1778). Shall I fix these bugs too? | 18:10 |
| mvo | tseliot: that are probably the ones I ran into as well, it looks like its just the new GError argument | 18:11 |
| tseliot | mvo: right | 18:11 |
| tseliot | mvo: what do you suggest that I do? | 18:11 |
| mvo | tseliot: feel free to fix, otherwise I have a go on it (seb mentioned there might be already fixes in svn for it, but its probably easy enough) | 18:11 |
| mvo | (easy enough == famous last words ;) | 18:12 |
| tseliot | mvo: ok, I'll make (yet) another patch. It should be easy to do | 18:12 |
| tjaalton | bryce: btw, I tried to fix vmmouse, and just copying xf86OSmouse.h from -mouse makes it get forward, but fails building libvmmouse.la. probably something easy but didn't get to it yet | 18:13 |
| bryce | removal bugs confirmed and u-a subbed | 18:19 |
| tjaalton | cool, thanks | 18:21 |
| bryce | yesterday I banged xkeyboard-config down from 117 to 73 bugs :-) | 18:21 |
| tseliot | \o/ | 18:22 |
| tjaalton | ooh :) | 18:22 |
| bryce | and went through all the ones related to hotkeys and gave troubleshooting advice | 18:22 |
| bryce | there's one keyboard bug that's got a ton of dupes. I don't understand what's going on but I marked it confirmed. It's been going on a while and seems to be some weird mis-interaction between the installer, x, and g-c-c | 18:23 |
| bryce | keyboard layouts seem to get forgotten or set up wrong during upgrades | 18:23 |
| bryce | anyway, probably something we should look into for jaunty. I marked it critical for now. | 18:23 |
| bryce | tjaalton: oh also might want to look at 308649 for xserver (patch was attached) | 18:26 |
| tjaalton | bryce: yeah | 18:28 |
| tjaalton | pushed | 18:30 |
| tjaalton | (not released yet if there are other fixed to include) | 18:33 |
| bryce | tjaalton: did you want me to look into the vmmouse issue? | 18:47 |
| bryce | I also still need to update my signal patch, hopefully I can get to that today | 18:48 |
| tjaalton | bryce: well, if you could that would be nice. probably something really simple | 18:48 |
| tseliot | mvo: did you upload the fix for the dropdown patch to the bzr branch? | 18:56 |
| mvo | tseliot: hm, should be. let me check | 18:59 |
| mvo | tseliot: rev36 should have it | 18:59 |
| tseliot | ok | 19:00 |
| * tseliot > dinner | 19:00 | |
| tjaalton | heh, alexia death seems to have figured out a way to fix wacom hotplug.. by using dbus | 20:53 |
| tjaalton | a set of dbus-send commands to add the devices | 20:53 |
| bryce | interesting | 20:56 |
| bryce | would it solve it for us? | 20:56 |
| bryce | tjaalton: btw I filed some sync req's for video drivers with a build number and new version in experimental | 20:57 |
| bryce | (listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/PackageNotes) | 20:57 |
| tjaalton | the driver would need to do that by itself, but we'll see what upstream thinks about it | 21:00 |
| bryce | ok | 21:06 |
| bryce | tjaalton: btw freeze immanent | 21:06 |
| tjaalton | I've requested openchrome to be synced, so changed the merge to a sync on that page | 21:07 |
| bryce | ok great | 21:07 |
| tjaalton | and voodoo in experimental is just a rebuilt version, no point in merging that | 21:07 |
| tjaalton | freeze.. great | 21:08 |
| tjaalton | bryce: hmm, what change does r128 have, or is the comment just an oversight :) | 21:36 |
| bryce | tjaalton: hmm? | 21:37 |
| tjaalton | the PackageNotes page | 21:38 |
| bryce | ah could be old info | 21:38 |
| bryce | otherwise, just an oversight | 21:39 |
| tjaalton | heh, ok I'll remove that then.. could be mine too | 21:39 |
| bryce | btw, I'm preparing an email for amd and nvidia to summarize UDS decisions; could you review for me? -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/86556/ | 21:40 |
| tjaalton | sure. libdrm is already 2.4.1, and 2.4.2 should be out soonish | 21:41 |
| bryce | any chance of 2.5.x? | 21:42 |
| tjaalton | alpha2 has a prerelease of randr-1.3, so it doesn't support all the features yet | 21:42 |
| tjaalton | I've no idea of libdrm versioning.. but they shouldn't care about libdrm anyway | 21:42 |
| bryce | ok, I'll list it as alpha3 | 21:42 |
| tjaalton | yes | 21:43 |
| tseliot | the RandR capplet works again (after 3 patches), yay! | 22:09 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: great :) | 23:07 |
| tjaalton | bryce: seems that hal 0.5.12-rc1 already has the patch to list joysticks having input.joystick capability | 23:07 |
| tjaalton | or maybe not, but my joystick does list that now | 23:19 |
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