[00:32] <burner> ok, so my wallpaper shows for about 2 seconds while my panel is loading, then disappears and I'm left with whatever background color I set in the appearance preference... I'm stumped
[00:37] <mahfiaz> burner, when you set wall paper again then nothing shows up?
[00:39] <burner> nothing except changing the color to whatever color was set for the new wallpaper
[00:40] <mahfiaz> take a look to ~/.xsession-errors, maybe there is useful information about crashes
[00:57] <burner> (gnome-panel:6660): Gdk-WARNING **: /build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.14.5/gdk/x11/gdkdrawable-x11.c:878 drawable is not a pixmap or window
[00:58] <burner> could it be that?  or possibly:
[00:58] <burner> ** (nautilus:6663): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
[01:02] <mahfiaz> probably the second one
[01:03] <mahfiaz> try killing all nautiluses and running one from terminal
[01:05] <mahfiaz> no, this won't give you any information
[01:13] <burner> killing nautilus and bringing it back doesn't even blip my wallpaper for the 2 seconds of it I see during logon
[01:15] <burner> ah ha!!!
[01:16]  * burner checked sessions and noticed remote desktop was enabled... the box was unchecked to remove wallpaper when someone connects remotely...  i checked it.. logged in remotely.. and when I logged off, the wallpaper came back!  yatta!
[01:17] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> sup pimps
[01:18] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> yo wat sup?
[01:20]  * burner shrugs
[01:23] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> yo why my thing going red when i try to put this in my computer?
[01:29] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> yo anyone in here
[01:29] <mahfiaz> VLAD-DA-IMPAILER, you are a little unclear
[01:30] <mahfiaz> we are not sure what is "your thing" which is going to red
[01:30] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> i try to install it, and i get red screen
[01:30] <mahfiaz> is this just a blank screen or has it some text on it?
[01:31] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> it's some kind of error
[01:31] <mahfiaz> then all I can say, is you are getting some error, which you may know already
[01:32] <burner> lol
[01:32] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> when it gets to installing packages it throws an error , setup failed or sumtn
[01:32] <burner> possibly a bad burn?  run teh 'check cd for errors" thing?
[01:33] <mahfiaz> but next time please read the error message carefully and write down, if needed
[01:33] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> no, but not a bad burn, ive had this on many different versions of kubuntu
[01:34] <burner> so you're trying to install Kubuntu but can't?
[01:34] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> right
[01:34] <burner> Kubuntu Jaunty alpha something?
[01:34] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> yup
[01:35] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> my friend said it was the best
[01:35] <burner> you're just testing jaunty and it worked in intrepid for you?
[01:35] <burner> if you're new to linux, i'd say wait on jaunty...  it's alpha software.  8.10 "intrepid" was released in October and works pretty well
[01:36] <mahfiaz> we could also say this was almost november
[01:36] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> well, actually i have those failures on all nvchipset mobos, but right now i have the new amd chipset
[01:36] <mahfiaz> with intrepid too?
[01:36] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> yeah
[01:37] <burner> try "ubuntu" ?
[01:37] <burner> try from a USB installer?
[01:37] <mahfiaz> and hardy?
[01:38] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> i've never done a setup from usb, any guides?
[01:38] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> havent try regular ubuntu, not a fan
[01:38] <burner> yeah ok... kubuntu should be fine
[01:39] <mahfiaz> ubuntu derivates make almost no difference, this cannot be the problem
[01:40] <mahfiaz> As burner suggested, try intrepid again and ask on #ubuntu
[01:40] <mahfiaz> and DON'T forget to write the error message down
[01:40] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> oh, and im usually using the alternate versions
[01:40] <burner> why not -desktop?
[01:40] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> i like to setup software raid
[01:42]  * charlie-tca likes to try the live cd to make sure the system will work
[01:43] <mahfiaz> most likely your error is about your software raid :)
[01:43] <burner> lol... indeed
[01:43] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> do u have a link to daily live kubuntu x64?
[01:43] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> no, im experienced with that
[01:44] <mahfiaz> what you use the software raid for? RAID-0?
[01:44] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> raid0 most of the time
[01:45] <mahfiaz> LVM aka logical volume management does this job more neatly
[01:46] <mahfiaz> you could even attach newly connected drive to lvm and expand filesystem to it
[01:46] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> i could never understand that lvm thing,
[01:46] <mahfiaz> imagine you have hotswap mobo one day :)
[01:47] <mahfiaz> and instead of saying your customers that you have to go offline to add drives, you simply attach new one, live
[01:47] <mahfiaz> see gentoo handbooks for lvm management
[01:49] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> why do u bring gentoo up?
[01:49] <mahfiaz> I said see gentoo *handbooks*
[01:50] <mahfiaz> these are superious, in my opinion
[01:50] <mahfiaz> *superiour
[01:50] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> i know , but where did gentoo come from?
[01:50] <burner> from the fact they have good lvm docs
[01:51] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> well, i don't need lvm, i do it by myself
[01:51] <mahfiaz> yeah, thats the problem
[01:52] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> no, im quite capable of setting up a few drives
[01:53] <mahfiaz> by the way, if one wants to get good linux-administrator experience, then gentoo is the one to run for some months
[01:53] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> damn it im gonna go do a screenshot
[01:53] <mahfiaz> and then use debian or ubuntu for real work
[01:53] <mahfiaz> that's good idea
[01:55] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> ok,ok, now help me figure out what the problem could be
[02:01] <mahfiaz> did you get the screenshot?
[02:18] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> well, no, cause id have to get off, and i didnt feel like leaving yet
[02:36] <VLAD-DA-IMPAILER> so, how do i install it from a usb drive?
[02:43] <x1250> calc, are you around? I think I've found a bug on openoffice. Try opening a PPT file, select another master page, save as ppt. It will result in a write error. Then choose save as odp, it will save as usual. :(
[02:44] <x1250> openoffice from intrepid's PPA, which I'm using on jaunty......
[03:07] <mahfiaz> VLAD-DA-IMPAILER: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:40] <DanaG> I am so, so very glad I bought this laptop with AMT enabled.  I resumed from suspend, and got a blank screen.... and somehow, the ssh server was not reachable. Yet, I was able to log into the serial console -- even with the OS networking down!
[05:03] <DanaG> Heh, somehow NetworkManager is not getting the memo that says I've rfkilled the wifi.
[06:06] <DanaG> weird dsdt... seems to have SQL queries!  www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/elitebook-8530w-dsdt.dsl
[06:09] <alka_trash3> I'm sort of excited for Jaunty
[06:09] <alka_trash3> With am64 bit versions of Flash and Java with improvements in speed should be nice
[13:09] <ottoshmidt> when will alpha version be available?
[13:20] <ikonia> ottoshmidt it already is
[13:20] <ikonia> ottoshmidt: check the topic
[13:21] <ottoshmidt> where?
[13:24] <ikonia> tehre you go
[13:24] <ikonia> there you go
[13:26] <ottoshmidt> ;)
[13:27] <ottoshmidt> what does not supported mean?
[13:27] <ottoshmidt> no one will assist if any problems?
[13:27] <ottoshmidt> (Jaunty is NOT RELEASED and NOT SUPPORTED)
[13:28] <ikonia> pretty much
[13:28] <ikonia> people will hlep out, but it probably won't be a big deal if it's broke as it's still in development
[13:28] <ikonia> you may have to re-install your system a lot too
[13:29] <ottoshmidt> :)
[13:30] <ottoshmidt> and if I report bugs and help to make it better?
[13:30] <ikonia>  depends if they are valid bugs, or just a case of you can't use them
[13:30] <ikonia> if they are valid, great
[13:31] <ikonia> you need to be able to provide debugging information though
[13:31] <ikonia> version information, compatability details, hardware, accurate discription of the problem, what you've done to try to resolve it, not just "it doesn't wokr"
[13:33] <ottoshmidt> interesting
[13:33] <ottoshmidt> but how do I know if it's not a valid bug in advance?
[13:35] <BUGabundo_work> you will learn with time ottoshmidt
[13:35] <BUGabundo_work> and ikonia I don't remember ever to reinstall a devel version
[13:35] <BUGabundo_work> sure when LibC6 got broken it was a nightmare
[13:36] <BUGabundo_work> and I had to use the LiveCD to fix it, but that was the worst that ever happened to me
[13:36] <BUGabundo_work> luckly....
[13:36] <BUGabundo_work> I sure hope I never loose un-backuped data
[13:39] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work it depends on the breakage
[13:39] <gnomefreak> broke libc6 is the worst that can happen other than kernel panic
[13:39] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work: just becaquse YOU have never re-installed doesn't mean others won't, it is quite a common thing to re-install the dev version after working through a problem to break point
[13:40] <gnomefreak> everything depends on libc6 without it your system wont work if broken system wont behave right
[13:45] <BUGabundo_work> that's why I said it was the worst it ever happened! lol
[13:45] <BUGabundo_work> I need to discover a way to re-apply all my settings
[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> for quick re-install
[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> I don't do them as often 'cause it sucks to redo everything
[13:46] <BUGabundo_work> I run a lot of services for personal usage and testing, and copying /etc aint always strait forward
[13:52] <gnomefreak> is anyones gpg key broke? not really the key but the gpg is broken
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[13:52] <BUGabundo_work> I'll have to test it
[13:53] <BUGabundo_work> anything in specific gnomefreak?
[13:53] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: tbird trying to send email that you sign
[13:53] <gnomefreak> i dont have tbid 2 atm so i cant test it
[13:55] <ikonia> gnomefreak: on jaunty, I couldn't get it working about 2 weeks ago,. not tried after that
[13:55] <BUGabundo_work> I use kmail, not tbird
[13:55] <BUGabundo_work> but all my kmail emails are going signed
[13:55] <gnomefreak> found this issue
[13:56] <gnomefreak> its the password dialog that is failing to accept password im betting its gnugp-agent
[13:57] <gnomefreak> cant sign a file either
[13:58] <ottoshmidt> I was disconnected so if anyone wrote to me I missed :(
[13:58] <ikonia> no-one did
[13:59] <gnomefreak> damn its not gpg-agent causing this
[13:59] <BUGabundo_work> naaa we're a bunch of quite people
[13:59]  * BUGabundo_work takes a look at seahorse
[14:02] <BUGabundo_work> ahh what a lovelly error message I got from seahorse while trying to add a ssh key to a remote server
[14:06] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: do you have pinentry-gtk2 installed or pinentry-qt?
[14:08]  * BUGabundo_work checks
[14:09] <BUGabundo_work> I have both
[14:10] <BUGabundo_work> yeah seahorse is segfaulting but gdb aint catching it
[14:10] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work can you strace it ?
[14:10] <ikonia> see the last hook it fails on
[14:11] <BUGabundo_work> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87081
[14:11] <BUGabundo_work> can you take a look?
[14:11] <ikonia> can do
[14:12] <BUGabundo_work> and if anyone know what's causing those atk-bridge-WARNING let me know!
[14:12] <BUGabundo_work> ikonia: am I meant to log strace too?
[14:13] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work wouldn't hurt, that seg faults isn't giving much
[14:13] <BUGabundo_work> I know
[14:13] <BUGabundo_work> strace -f seahorse > strace.log would do it?
[14:14] <BUGabundo_work> I'm getting it echo to screen and not the log
[14:14]  * BUGabundo_work opens a LP but to keep track
[14:14] <BUGabundo_work> ah
[14:14] <BUGabundo_work> -o FILE
[14:17] <BUGabundo_work> "couldn't read from seahorse-ssh-askpass: broken pipe" could be the reason for the bug
[14:18] <BUGabundo_work> gnomefreak: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ is it related to yours?
[14:18] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work are you getting a prompt on screen
[14:18] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: most likely it is
[14:19] <BUGabundo_work> I 'm ikonia
[14:19] <BUGabundo_work> but all pop ups are UNDER pop ups
[14:19] <BUGabundo_work> I have to move windows to reach them
[14:19] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: cant remember but im pretty sure seahorse only uses *-gtk2 but you can check your default one by changing/checking update-alternatives pinentry-x11
[14:19] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: thats same bug
[14:19] <BUGabundo_work> plus I have keep hitting the Pass field with my mouse to keep it selected
[14:20] <gnomefreak> check also pinentry
[14:21] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: Bug 272390 was the one I was thinking off, maybe this is a new one.
[14:21] <BUGabundo_work> I'm seeing way to many on LP
[14:22] <BUGabundo_work> bug 126094
[14:22] <gnomefreak> seahorse isnt crashing for BUGabundo_work
[14:22] <BUGabundo_work> well it did to me twice
[14:22] <BUGabundo_work> until I manage to enter the password on the under popup
[14:23] <gnomefreak> its just not accepting passphrass. to chek if crashed look in /var/crash but i doiubt you will see it
[14:23] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[14:23] <BUGabundo_work> not crashing, segfaulting
[14:23] <gnomefreak> segfault is a crash last i checked
[14:23] <BUGabundo_work> no crashs there, just gwibber
[14:24] <gnomefreak> segfault is interrupted running
[14:24] <Hew> a segfault would trigger apport, yes
[14:25] <Hew> although apport seems to be absent in Jaunty atm, perhaps it's just me..
[14:26] <BUGabundo_work> naa, I don't see it either Hew
[14:28] <gnomefreak> Hew: mine works
[14:28] <gnomefreak> Hew: try enabling it
[14:28] <gnomefreak> IIRC its in /etc/default/apport change the 0 to a 1
[14:28] <Hew> gnomefreak: It is enabled
[14:29] <gnomefreak> Hew: than its not absent
[14:29] <gnomefreak> ;)
[14:29] <Hew> .crash files are generated, but apport isn't triggered automatically. Not a big deal, I can navigate to /var/crash and run it manually when I need to :-)
[14:29] <BUGabundo_work> uploading strace now
[14:30] <gnomefreak> i crashed an app this morning and apport came up asking if i wanted to report it
[14:30] <Hew> gnomefreak: Yes I know it's not absent, but it's just not triggering when it should :P
[14:30] <Hew> ok good, well as long as it's not broken for everyone that's ok
[14:30] <gnomefreak> it was gnome-app-install as i recall that i crashed
[14:31] <gnomefreak> i guess i dont have to do any bug work since email is broken :)
[14:31] <Hew> ah excellent, I just realised the gnome-panel applets aren't crashing anymore (such as five-a-day-applet)
[14:32]  * gnomefreak has broken X and broken pinentry 
[14:32] <Hew> gnomefreak: Congratulations :P
[14:32]  * charlie-tca wondered who did that, gnomefreak 
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> ikonia: gnomefreak Hew https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/308985 (Mark as Private)
[14:32] <BUGabundo_work> strace on its way still
[14:32] <mphill> what is apport?
[14:33] <gnomefreak> !apport
[14:33] <gnomefreak> why would you
[14:33] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work I can't read it then if it's private
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> can't you ?
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> I thought most of you were in QA
[14:33] <ikonia> BUGabundo_work: hence the name private
[14:33] <gnomefreak> mphill: its a crash collecter that allows you to report crash reports and it adds the strace and such
[14:33] <ikonia> ha ha no
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> let me just upload the strace
[14:33] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo_work: Is it in Jaunty?
[14:33] <BUGabundo_work> and have hew take a look at it
[14:34] <mphill> gnomefreak: thanks
[14:34] <BUGabundo_work> so see if I manage to omit all stuff
[14:34] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: unless subscribed to the package bug is filed under or reported
[14:34] <BUGabundo_work> charlie-tca: yes I'm on jaunty
[14:34] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: I can read it (Bug Control)
[14:35] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[14:35] <BUGabundo_work> can the strace be in targz?
[14:35] <BUGabundo_work> I just noticed its 80MiBs of data
[14:35] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: You can set it to public yourself when you are comfortable.
[14:35] <BUGabundo_work> its using all my BW and it aint gonna go so soon
[14:35] <Hew> .tar.gz is fine
[14:35] <gnomefreak> im in it
[14:36] <gnomefreak> ** Message: could not grab keyboard
[14:36] <BUGabundo_work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/308985 (due to many family requests, is now public)
[14:36] <gnomefreak> ** Message: could not grab keyboard
[14:36] <gnomefreak> that tells me its same bug
[14:36] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: you have no private data in bug so setting it public should be fine
[14:37] <BUGabundo_work> gnomefreak: uploading now strace tar.gz
[14:37] <BUGabundo_work> done
[14:37] <BUGabundo_work> you guys should see it now
[14:37] <BUGabundo_work> remove any private data you still see on it!
[14:37] <gnomefreak> refreshing after smoke
[14:37] <BUGabundo_work> I already munge user and pass
[14:37] <gnomefreak> shoudlnt have any in strace
[14:38]  * BUGabundo_work 80MiBs to 500k... uau tar.gz rules
[14:38] <BUGabundo_work> I could see them in there...
[14:41] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: I'm not sure what private data could be there, unless your private key snuck in there somehow? :P
[14:41] <BUGabundo_work> uhhhh
[14:41] <BUGabundo_work> that would be bad
[14:41] <BUGabundo_work> forgot to look for it
[14:42] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: The Private feature is usually just for automatically submitted apport crashes. If you know what you're doing, you can just have a quick look yourself, no need to mark as private
[14:42] <BUGabundo_work> grep can't find it
[14:42] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: It was a joke, I really doubt that is the case :P
[14:42] <BUGabundo_work> I think I'm safe
[14:42] <BUGabundo_work> don't scare me like that
[14:42] <Hew> hehe sorry ;-)
[14:43] <BUGabundo_work> brb
[14:51] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo_work: what is kde version of seahorse called?
[15:06] <Hew> gnomefreak: kgpg? (just from a quick browse of the repositories, I don't use KDE so I'm not sure)
[15:07]  * gnomefreak not sure either. he said he used kmail so i was hoping he would know
[15:08] <gnomefreak> Hew: what package is 5-a-day applet in? i cant find it anywhere
[15:09] <Hew> gnomefreak: It's five-a-day-applet from the PPA
[15:09] <gnomefreak> i thought it was in repos already
[15:10] <Hew> gnomefreak: Unfortunately no, there's a bug open for it though.
[15:10] <Hew> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day/Reporting
[15:10] <gnomefreak> ah i thought it hit in intrepid
[15:11] <gnomefreak> thanks Hew
[15:11] <Hew> Bug 194372
[15:13] <Hew> yea I hope it hits Jaunty now, but new packages have a habit of taking forever
[15:13] <BUGabundo_work> back
[15:14] <BUGabundo_work> I'm on gnome gnomefreak. I just use a few kde apps
[15:14] <BUGabundo_work> like kmail, konqueror , etc
[15:14] <Hew> BUGabundo_work: welcome back
[15:14] <gnomefreak> bullgard4: ah ok
[15:18] <bullgard4> gnomefreak: wrong nick.
[15:18] <BUGabundo_work> lol
[15:18] <BUGabundo_work> same 'bu' nick
[15:18] <gnomefreak> oh sorry bullgard4
[15:19] <gnomefreak> well since i cant do anything with email and its too late to start work on anything else on my to do list im gone for a while ;)
[16:24] <mgs> Has anyone experienced their alt keys not working? Running Kubuntu, but can't really find a bug for it yet.
[16:27] <BUGabundo_work> mgs: not here in ubuntu jaunty
[16:31] <mgs> Guess I'll fiddle around a little more, and report a bug in the end if I cant find a solution, thanks.
[16:42] <bhuvi> will jaunty alpha 2 live cd be released
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work> yes bhuvi
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work> !daily
[16:42] <BUGabundo_work> but you can also use a daily
[16:43] <bhuvi> but can it be upgraded
[16:44] <BUGabundo_work> sure
[16:45] <BUGabundo_work> any version can be upgrade to what ever comes next
[16:47] <bhuvi> i remember havin installed daily image for intrepid it had no authentication i mean uname output was unknown
[16:48] <BUGabundo_work> humm?
[16:48] <BUGabundo_work> 1st time I read about thatr
[16:48] <BUGabundo_work> maybe a wrong image? or a bad day to test it?
[17:17] <Xsss4hell> hi
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> a week ago or soo I was happy having Jaunty
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> I would be still
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> would
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> I updated jaunty as usual
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> Now it doesn't showup ANY dialog anymore
[17:18] <Xsss4hell> The os is NOT usable..
[17:19] <Xsss4hell> but it was HIGHLY productive before the update
[17:19] <Xsss4hell> Do you know that bug?
[17:20] <Xsss4hell> Which logs do you need???
[17:20] <Xsss4hell> I very VERY VERY neeed this desktop working asap
[17:20] <Xsss4hell> I'm in textmode now
[17:21] <Pici> Xsss4hell: you shouldn't be using Jaunty if you need it to work.
[17:31] <Xsss4hell> Pici you shouldn't use a computer if you want to work..
[17:32] <Xsss4hell> I know it's alpha, but it was very stable. until canonical released the latest update.
[17:32] <Xsss4hell> something broke
[17:34] <Pici> Xsss4hell: Ubuntu Alpha releases are not designed to be stable.  Its a bit of an anomoly that it was stable for you for this long.
[17:34] <Xsss4hell> I don't think so!
[17:35] <Xsss4hell> I have it since alpha1 got released, without even a minor bug!
[17:35] <Pici> The developers were waiting for UDS to happen and be finished before they had a good direction to go regarding changes.
[17:35] <Xsss4hell> And I'm a developer, so I use many functions that go beyond normal user's desktop experience
[17:37] <Pici> Er. Okay?
[17:38] <TheInfinity> you need alpha software, you are a developer and you use it at your productive system? wow.
[17:38] <TheInfinity> you *use alpha software
[17:40] <TheInfinity> one of these points is wrong. i would say the 2nd point ;)
[17:40] <Pici> The channel topic explains it pretty well.
[17:42] <TheInfinity> Pici: no working xorg is no breakage in a bad way - this can get much worse ;)
[17:42] <Pici> TheInfinity: Oh indeed.
[17:42]  * genii sips a coffee
[17:44] <Xsss4hell> I'll reinstall ubuntu jaunty and do not apply updates
[17:44] <Xsss4hell> but trying to find the bug..
[17:45] <TheInfinity> Xsss4hell: if you need ubuntu you should use no jaunty.
[17:45] <Xsss4hell> nothing special appears in the logs
[17:45] <Xsss4hell> then interpid.. but intrepid had more bugs than jaunty, at least in the begining
[17:46] <Pici> Xsss4hell: Jaunty with no updates is nearly the same thing as Intrepid.
[17:46] <Xsss4hell> I wish you had an update-policy like gentoo. -> fast forward & stable
[17:46] <genii> All the intermediate releases of ubuntu have had some issues. This is normal.
[17:47] <dimebar> Xsss4hell: maybe if you stopped crying and installed something stable you'd be more productive
[17:47] <genii> Since the purpose of the intermediate releases are to test and incorporate chanegs which will be in the next long-term release
[17:47] <Xsss4hell> I've set up, ssh, apache, ldap, ftp, any many more on that machine, damn it.. that damn error must be fixable
[17:48] <TheInfinity> you installed an SERVER at an alpha OS? wow. you are really crazy ...
[17:49] <Xsss4hell> TheInfinity: I'ts for personal use
[17:49] <Xsss4hell> not publicly available
[17:50] <Xsss4hell> I've programmed applications  that interact with ldap auth etc.
[17:52] <Pici> If you're aiming for stability I highly suggest that you use a non-alpha version of Ubuntu.  If you don't like Intrepid then use Hardy or earlier.
[17:55] <Xsss4hell> the dekstop show up, everything seems normal, dialogs coming up, but the content of it is not displaying, so nothing is really usable, altough there
[17:56] <Xsss4hell> Isn't any bug similar to that in launchpad? If you know it there should be a fix, instead of telling me to install another OS
[17:57] <Pici> Xsss4hell: I don't know. You probably will have to look for yourself.
[18:18] <BUGabundo> is it just me, or is the new FF update messing things?
[18:18] <BUGabundo> most pages won't even load..
[18:18] <BUGabundo> I know I'm not on the fastest net connection, but it aint that bad!
[18:25] <charlie-tca> seems okay here. Anything specific?
[18:27] <BUGabundo> yeah, pages not loading
[18:27] <BUGabundo> and gwibber also blank
[18:28] <BUGabundo> I suspesct bad webkit upgrade
[18:29] <charlie-tca> Maybe. I got 5 tabs open, and pages are loading fast.
[18:31] <BUGabundo> really strange then
[18:32] <BUGabundo> both FF3.0.4 (just upgrade to .5) and FF3.1 won't open almost any page
[18:32] <BUGabundo> gmail did open, but took a few retries
[18:32] <BUGabundo> pidgin or UM are working great
[18:35] <TheInfinity> hmm. archive.ubuntu.com for jaunty seems to be down atm?
[18:37] <BUGabundo> it was up a few minutes ago, when I did my updates
[18:44] <burner_> anyone know if nvidia drivers work in the latest dist-upgrade?  It wants to remove my nvidia-glx-177 but I don't see an alternative driver get installed
[18:45] <BUGabundo> guys get ready to be on Mark's screen shots
[18:45] <burner_> http://ubuntuweblogs.org rules! :)
[18:47] <AnRkey> may i ask an off topic question quick?
[18:47] <BUGabundo> I guess AnRkey
[18:47] <AnRkey> configure: error: *** wxWidgets resource compiler not found - unable to build GUI components *** << what in the name of all that is good is this thing looking for?
[18:48] <burner_> AnRkey: you compiling?  maybe it's a -dev package of wxwidgets?
[18:48] <AnRkey> hmm
[18:48] <AnRkey> brb
[18:49] <burner_> try libwxgtk2.8-dev
[18:49] <AnRkey> already installed
[18:50]  * AnRkey starts getting emotional
[18:51] <AnRkey> i get this when i try compile
[18:51] <AnRkey> checking for wxrc-gtk2-2.8... no
[18:51] <AnRkey> configure: error: *** wxWidgets resource compiler not found - unable to build GUI components ***
[18:51] <AnRkey> it finds almost everything else
[18:55] <AnRkey> thanks anyway chaps
[19:00] <burner> lo siento
[19:17] <blueyed> KDE on Jaunty is currently borked, correct? (e.g. kickoff menu displays only a box with black borders, the same for krunner). window decorations look strange/old, too..
[19:21] <charlie-tca> I believe you are right, blueyed
[19:21] <blueyed> Thanks for confirming, charlie-tca.
[19:21] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[21:19] <Daisuke_Ido> fix your connection already
[21:19] <Daisuke_Ido> as he leaves YET again
[21:30] <mphill> how lame
[21:34] <genii> Makes you feel like smacking them around some
[22:05] <neztiti> hi guys - can some on help me with ATI 1250 card to work with tvout with any driver???
[22:45] <neztiti> hi guys - can some on help me with ATI 1250 card to work with tvout with any driver???