[11:25] <crevette> hello gents
[14:10] <seb128> is there anybody wanting to package libproxy? it's required to update libsoup and some other GNOME things
[16:09] <crevette> hello
[16:10] <seb128> lut crevette
[16:27] <norsetto> hi seb128
[16:27] <seb128> hey norsetto, how are you?
[16:27] <norsetto> seb128: pretty fine thx, and you?
[16:28] <seb128> good thanks
[17:00] <lool> seb128: Hey
[17:00] <seb128> lut lool
[17:00] <lool> seb128: What do you think of pushing cheese as an intrepid SRU?
[17:00] <lool> Is it too late for GNOME 2.24.2 updates?
[17:00] <seb128> doit!
[17:00] <seb128> no it's not
[17:00] <lool> Erf
[17:01] <seb128> it can probably wait for new year now, not sure if anybody will process srus before that anyway
[17:02] <lool> Ok
[17:02] <lool> seb128: Does it need a SRU bug?
[17:03] <seb128> lool: yes
[17:03] <seb128> ls
[17:05] <lool> seb128: #309039
[17:05] <seb128> lool: thanks
[17:31] <crevette> seb128: can I help you for something I have 1 hour free (perhaps)
[17:31] <crevette> (notice for later: have a day off, doesn't me you'll free time when you have a 3 months old baby)
[17:32] <seb128> crevette: can try to do the nautilus-cd-burner or gnome-media update if you want
[17:32] <crevette> oky docky
[17:32] <crevette> seb128: if I got that right, n-c-b shouldn't depend on eel now
[17:33] <crevette> as there won't be new release
[17:33] <seb128> crevette: right, not sure if that's true yet though
[17:34] <seb128> crevette: you can also try the totem-pl-parser, totem or deskbar-applet updates if you want
[17:34] <seb128> or gnome-games
[17:34] <seb128> everything else is probably blocked until new year, we don't want too many breakages before everybody runs away for holidays
[17:34] <seb128> speaking about running I've to go now
[17:34] <crevette> seb128: at least we can keep dependency on libeel until it is removed from archives right ?
[17:35] <seb128> bbl
[17:35] <seb128> crevette: correct
[17:35] <crevette> thanks
[17:35] <crevette> see you later
[17:35] <seb128> crevette: I did the nautilus update but it's crashy so that will probably wait until new year too
[17:35] <seb128> cheers
[17:35] <seb128> bbl
[17:35] <crevette> okay
[17:49] <norsetto> what, totem-pl-parser needs updating again!?
[20:03] <pochu> fta, asac: hey folks, could you have a look at bug 309108, comment 2? I've prepared an update for liferea, but I'm not sure if that change (comment 2) is correct
[20:04] <pochu> TIA :-)
[20:05] <fta> looking..
[20:06] <fta> pochu, it is needed, but it can be done differently
[20:07] <pochu> fta: how?
[20:08] <fta> by telling liferea to load only xul 1.9.0.* and not 1.9*
[20:08] <fta> hold on
[20:10] <fta> pochu, like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87290/
[20:12] <fta> pochu, it should even be sent upstream
[20:13] <dobey> just build it with gtkhtml2! :)
[20:20] <pochu> dobey: liferea 1.5.x only support webkit now :)
[20:20] <pochu> fta: thanks, looking
[20:20] <dobey> :(
[20:20] <pochu> dobey: any problems with webkit? :)
[20:20] <dobey> unfortunately, yes
[20:21] <dobey> and having to have N browsers installed to use my desktop, also sucks :)
[20:21] <pochu> heh
[20:21] <pochu> I thought webkit was a bit like gtkhmtl, but a lot heavier :)
[20:22] <pochu> i.e. a renderer
[20:22] <dobey> it's a bit like firefox, but doesn't provide it's own gui, really
[20:22] <dobey> well, it provides a test gui
[20:22] <dobey> but it's very simplistic
[20:22] <dobey> it's like firefox, without the chrome :)
[20:24] <pochu> the google chrome?
[20:25] <dobey> i've done too much work on web stuff to appreciate all the fandom around webkit
[20:25] <dobey> and i've seen too much of its own code
[20:28] <fta> pochu, not google chrome ;) the mozilla chrome, ie, the part of firefox that specifies the ui. gecko (~ xulrunner) + some chrome + some stuff = firefox
[20:28] <fta> pochu, google chrome is chromium + some stuff, chromium is based on webkit
[20:28] <seb128> hey fta pochu
[20:29] <pochu> oh my god, this is too complicated!
[20:29] <pochu> hey hey seb128 :)
[20:29] <pochu> seb128: how was UDS?
[20:29] <dobey> yes, yes it is
[20:29] <seb128> pochu: do you want to package libproxy for debian and ubuntu?
[20:29] <seb128> pochu: good!
[20:29] <seb128> pochu: it's required for GNOME 2.25
[20:29] <fta> pochu, i have a package of chromium in my ppa. sort of.
[20:29] <fta> seb128, hi
[20:29] <pochu> seb128: I don't have a proxy :-) but I can package it. The problem will be with testing it!
[20:30] <seb128> pochu: that's what unstable distros are for, testing
[20:30] <pochu> seb128: but I usually like to test things before they are uploaded ;)
[20:30] <seb128> pochu: if that's buggy people will complain soon enough ;-)
[20:30] <pochu> you know, I once uploaded a broken package :P
[20:30] <pochu> hehe
[20:31] <seb128> pochu: well, it's not used a lot yet so you can't break a lot
[20:31] <pochu> right
[20:31] <pochu> seb128: I think I'll package it in pkg-gnome, but not maintain it myself
[20:31] <pochu> i.e. put the team in Maintainer:
[20:31] <seb128> pochu: ok
[20:31] <dobey> seb128: oh, btw. is there a page on the ubuntu wiki that describes the process for getting a new package into ubuntu?
[20:32] <pochu> seb128: I'll see if I can have a look at it tonight
[20:32] <pochu> after I'm done with liferea :)
[20:32] <seb128> pochu: thanks
[20:32] <dobey> seb128: i'd like to get pynetworkmanager in for jaunty :)
[20:33] <pochu> dobey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[20:33] <dobey> pochu: thanks!
[20:33] <pochu> you're welcome!
[20:33] <seb128> pochu has been faster than me apparently ;-)
[20:34] <fta> hm, file-roller can't open .rar anymore, it's no longer registered
[20:34] <fta> i still have unrar installed
[20:35] <seb128> fta: it's not listed in the nautilus context menu?
[20:35] <fta> i fact, *.rar is fine, *.r\d+ is not. regression in nautilus ?
[20:35] <fta> in
[20:36] <fta> only the rar file has the correct icon, the other parts have the default icon
[20:36] <seb128> fta: are you sure that ever worked? you can open a .rar if you don't have the first chunk?
[20:36] <fta> sure
[20:36] <fta> i always select one file at random
[20:36] <seb128> well, nautilus stopped using mimetype magic to open files it uses the filenames now
[20:37] <seb128> it avoid all sort of annoying bugs or the warnings about the mimetype not matching the name
[20:37] <seb128> and shared-mime-info probably doesn't have those listed
[20:48] <fta> seb128, seems fine now. i just restarted nautilus
[20:48] <seb128> weird
[21:14] <pochu> aha!
[21:14] <pochu> fta: your patch was perfectly
[21:14] <pochu> without it I get the abort if I install xulrunner-1.9.1, with it liferea runs
[21:14] <pochu> fta: thanks :-)
[21:14] <fta> :)
[21:14] <seb128> fta: want to do the cairo 1.8.6 update btw?
[21:17] <seb128> somebody did a cairo sru for the printing issue btw so no real hurry getting a new version in intrepid
[21:18] <pochu> asac: I'd appreciate if you could look at sponsoring bug 309108 :-)
[21:18] <fta> seb128, yep, i have a patch from mozilla to add
[21:18] <fta> mozilla bug 467874
[21:18] <fta> freedesktop bug 18862
[21:18] <seb128> ok
[21:20] <pochu> fta: I'll look at forwarding your patch from bug 238958 too
[21:20] <fta> pochu, this one is weird. it worked for me for a while, it's broken again
[21:20] <seb128> fta: the change is not in 1.8.6?
[21:21] <fta> seb128, apparently not
[21:21] <seb128> ok
[21:21] <pochu> fta: it works fine for me in a jaunty vm
[21:22] <fta> pochu, i suspect a problem in gtk as some other apps are impacted too
[21:22] <fta> Jazzva, ^^
[21:23] <pochu> fta: I can't reproduce it in Debian unstable/experimental
[21:23] <pochu> I thought it could be due to me having metacity 2.22, so I'm gonna test with metacity 2.24
[21:23] <pochu> fta: I mean, without the patch, liferea works properly
[21:24] <fta> as i said, it's currently broken for me in jaunty
[21:25] <Jazzva> I had been experiencing the same before, I'm unsure now, as I haven't used it in a while. I'll retest to see if I can reproduce it
[21:31] <Jazzva> Weird, when I use metacity I can't get liferea to the current workspace at all, if it's visible on the other workspace. It also gets minimized on the other workspace.
[21:32] <Jazzva> When I use compiz, liferea will go to systray on the first click, and then appear on the active workspace on the second click..
[21:33] <pochu> bah
[21:33] <pochu> I forgot ember's patch for integrating liferea with launchpad
[21:33]  * pochu adds that patch
[21:34] <fta> Jazzva, same for me (metacity)
[21:35] <fta> but i wonder why no one else complained
[21:37] <Jazzva> something similar is happening with rhythmbox... When it's visible on some other workspace, clicking on tray icon doesn't do anything...
[21:37] <fta> and with deluge
[21:37] <Jazzva> with compiz it's the same as with liferea - two clicks and it's on the visible workspace
[21:37] <fta> but not with xchat
[21:37] <Jazzva> right
[21:38] <dobey> does anyone know anything about seahorse/gpg stuff?
[21:38] <Jazzva> pidgin behaves like rhythmbox, too. except that with compiz it will move me to the ws where pidgin chat window is.
[21:39] <pochu> dobey: something, but not much :)
[21:39] <dobey> i can't seem to get it to cache my passphrase any more. and the settings dialog just says "<i>The thing we need, isn't running.</i>" in a very unhelpful manner
[21:40] <pochu> what version?
[21:45] <dobey> pochu: intrepid
[21:46] <dobey> pochu: 2.24.2-0ubuntu1 for seahorse bits
[21:46] <dobey> libgpgme11 is 1.16-2ubuntu1
[21:49] <pochu> dobey: is the seahorse agent running?
[21:50] <dobey> pochu: yes, seahorse-agent and seahorse-daemon are both alive it seems
[22:01] <pochu> dobey: I know some people have had problems with seahorse-agent and gnome-keyring and that stuff, as the agent was moved, but I can't find yours, sorry
[22:01] <pochu> ember: hey, liferea fails to build with your launchpad integration patch:
[22:01] <dobey> i don't know
[22:02] <dobey> it was working great until like last week
[22:02] <dobey> i think i installed some update and it broke :(
[22:03] <pochu> dobey: check /var/log/dpkg.log, perhaps you can see if you updated something related
[22:03] <pochu> ember: http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/liferea_1.4.23-0ubuntu1.dsc, try to build it please :)
[22:04] <dobey> searching doesn't show anything obvious :(
[22:07] <mvo> there is also /var/log/apt/term.log and the synaptic log under File/History that update-manager uses too (both easier to read than dpkg.log)
[22:07] <mvo> not sure if that is helpful (if dpkg.log contains nothing useful)
[22:54] <crevette_> hello
[23:38] <woodenfox> Anyone here?
[23:42] <pochu> dunno