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lukehasnonameHas anyone watched Greg Hartman's talk on Linux kernel development?08:43
lukehasnonamehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2SED6sewRw08:43
tjaaltonold news08:45
lukehasnonameHe says Canonical "does not give back to the community" as it has only contributed half a dozen patches to the kernel since its inception. Either we don't make any changes to the kernel, and thus we are happy with its development by others (which should be just fine), or our changes to the kernel are just not being submitted directly to the tree. I don't get how he justifies sticking his nose up to Ubuntu like we a08:46
lukehasnonamere worthless because we don't have the numbers he wants.08:46
tjaaltonyou are 6 months late08:46
lukehasnonamesorry to type so much, but this has come up in discussion several times with people, and them nor I have heard anyone's response on it.08:47
lukehasnonametjaalton, I know this isn't new, I see the June date, but I've yet to see anyone involved in the kernel (Ubuntu or otherwise) respond to his attitude.08:48
tjaaltonsure did, six months ago08:48
tjaaltondig up the blogosphere08:48
lukehasnonamebroken record08:49
crimsunlukehasnoname: several canonical staff have responded on their own blogs08:49
apwyeah people have responded.  he was wrong, what can you say08:50
apwhe actually did the same talk at plumbers and wasn't taken very well08:51
lukehasnonametouche, I should have looked a little more. Thanks for the pointer, though, apw08:57
lukehasnonamehm09:10
lukehasnonamecame off as a bit of a vendetta in that plumber's conf. talk. Whatever.09:21
apwyep, had an effect, pushing canonical employees to ensure they are using their canonical addresses when contributing09:22
apwotherwise, his math was just wrong09:22
lukehasnonameIMO, as if anyone cares, is that he is almost insulting to anyone who uses the kernel without giving back, as if, since we are users of the kernel, and thus know how to improve on it and have the desire to improve on it.09:33
lukehasnonamepoor grammar there, it's 4am in Houston09:34
apwindeed, the implication that producing something that gets good penetration and thus is a good advertisment, somehow is not a good thing for linux as a whole if we aren't contributing 09:35
apw(even if that was true, which it was not)09:35
CarlFKI just got whacked by https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18160#c813:34
CarlFKany chance there is something that addresses this?  otherwise I have to figure out how to downgrade xorg13:35
CarlFKI would rather put my efforts into a fix than a workaround 13:35
bhuvihow can i get ubuntu kernel source package16:59
CarlFKbhuvi: logn shot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten My kernel howto: 17:03
rtgbhuvi: start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMaintenance17:09
CarlFKrtg: is there some docs for how to build a kernel.deb that does not address sending changes back up?17:12
rtgCarlFK: I don't understand your question.17:13
CarlFKrtg: that url you posted has "Once the tree is ready for upload, follow these steps to complete the package for uploading: "17:13
bhuviah it's looks complicated17:14
CarlFKbut many people have no need for that17:14
rtgCarlFK: what is it you want to do? Just a build?17:14
CarlFKand so the extra steps to support it make it more "complicated" (good timimng)17:14
rtgwell start with 'Getting the source', then jump to 'Performing builds'17:15
bhuvii now downloaded 2.6.28 kernel from kernel.org can it be compiled and run under hardy without any problems17:31
bhuvithis link also seems useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile17:36
Kanohttp://kanotix.com/files/kernel/unused-patches/2.6.27.9-patch_sigmatel_dell_studio_17.diff18:46
Kanohi, just made that patch for ubuntu studio 17 laptop18:47
Kanosimilar to18:47
Kanohttp://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.27.y.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7b7f1613bcfdd8e6ccaeea8a57daf9a3a122fc218:47
Kanoplease add18:47
Kanoconfirmed to work18:47
Kanodid not know that it would be so easy, in #alsa they could not help me...18:50
* pgraner just added https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/UDS/Dec2008 19:04
KeybukCONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS=y19:23
KeybukCONFIG_LEGACY_PTY_COUNT=25619:23
Keybukreally ?19:23
Keybukcan we change that to CONFIG_LEGACY_PTY_COUNT=019:24
Keybukleaving PTYS=y so that there's a boot option if people reallly need them19:25
Keybuk(nothing uses them, and they just waste boot time with 256 mknod() calls)19:25
rtgBenC1: ^^^19:33
Kanoalso please begin testing nfs-kernel-server with 2.6.2819:43
Kanowhats now with the little alsa patch?19:55
s-corphi all... I have a Linksys WUSB11 v2.6 fot what I know with an Atmel chip20:56
s-corpit worked fine with hardy and when I updated to intrepid today the kernel started spitting out an Oops error20:57
s-corpi rebooted to win xp and tested id the device was working, and it was20:58
s-corpwith the firmware loaded by windows, I rebooted my pc back to ubuntu20:58
s-corpand it worked fine until I restarted the devuce20:59
s-corpdevice*20:59
s-corpideas :?20:59
s-corpLinux <*******>2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 21:57:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux21:01
s-corphttp://pastebin.com/m63eb57aa21:04
s-corpthis is the dmesg output21:04
s-corpshould I file a bug report?21:05
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s-corpuh!... [  947.266329] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000021:29
[T]ankhey all, wondered if there is a log file somewhere that tracks network interface activity. 23:48

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