[13:11] <lool> asac: Could you add a .bzr-builddeb/default.conf in xulrunner-1.9 branches?
[13:11] <lool> asac: With [BUILDDEB] on the first line and merge = True on the second
[13:18] <lool> asac: Just FYI:
[13:18] <lool> W: xulrunner-1.9 source: build-depends-on-1-revision build-depends: binutils (>= 2.17-1) [mips mipsel]
[13:18] <lool> Just add a ~ to that rev if you really need that rev
[13:19] <lool> (allowing backports to satisfy the bdep)
[13:20] <lool> asac: Pushing the package to the ubuntu-mobile ppa; thanks!
[13:42] <asac> lool: @default.conf ... we can add just Merge = true there ... just didnt see much use as i dont have a export-upstream branch for those
[13:43] <asac> lool: i assume that 2.17-1 is quiet old and shouldnt really make backports hard, but ok.
[13:55] <lool> asac: It's also needed when you use the tarball; e.g. "bzr bd -e" only gives me a tree with debian/, not mozilla/
[13:55] <lool> asac: I guess you're copying the debian dir manually when building?
[13:56] <lool> asac: Concerning binutils, it's only needed for dapper; feel free to drop it if you don't care :-)
[14:14] <lool> OpenGL support in vbox http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjkzOA we might have a way to use vms for testing of clutter based apps in some future time
[14:21] <asac> lool: no ... we are just using bzr bd --merge .... which is the natural way of doing it when looking at bzr help bd ;)
[14:26] <lool> asac: Crap, I *looked* for the option, and skipped it
[14:26] <asac> lool: heh ... apparently you are new to bzr bd ;)
[14:26] <lool> asac: I found it really weird that I couldn't merge on the command line, but I can blah
[14:27] <lool> asac: Well I'm not using it regularly; usually the bzr packages I touch are completely in bzr, so a simple debuild works
[14:27] <lool> -i -I of course
[14:27] <asac> lool: yeah ... i never do that even for full source branches .... though bzr clean-tree is good ... but its handy to not use it ... you can change things without committing and still test without cluttering everything
[14:28] <asac> also i can build on fast disk ;)
[14:28] <asac> e.g. build-dir=/some/fastbuilddir
[14:29] <lool> Nice
[14:54] <lool> asac: Q: firefox seems to require some particular xulrunner version range
[14:54] <lool> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.1 and 1.9.0.*.
[14:54] <lool> asac: But the deps only enforce the lower bound
[14:55] <lool> I'm doing a jaunty dist-upgrade, and it's been 20 minutes that firefox is broken during the upgrade with this message; I wonder why the dep isn't < 1.9.1 as well?
[14:56] <lool> asac: Absolutely not a critical use case, but I was just wondering :)
[14:57] <asac> lool: well ... xulrunner-1.9 is defined to be 1.9.0.* ;)
[14:57] <asac> 1.9.1 is xulrunner-1.9.1
[14:58] <lool> Oh then I wonder why it broke
[14:58] <lool> I still have xulrunner-1.9 installed
[14:59] <asac> have to run to catch my train ... will try to be on there with 3g
[14:59] <asac> sorry
[14:59] <lool> NP
[15:07] <lool> asac: Working again now; I wonder what broke it
[15:36] <asac> lool: not sure ... what it is looking for is the /etc/gre.d/ file
[15:36] <asac> lool: maybe conffiles get installed at a later stage?
[15:39] <lool> asac: Could be
[15:47] <asac> lool: can you paste the files you have in that dir=
[15:47] <asac> ?
[15:48] <lool> asac: I have 1.9.0.4.system.conf and 1.9.0.5.system.conf
[15:49] <lool> They look almost identical, with s/1.9.0.4/1.9.0.5
[15:49] <lool> There's no /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.4 though
[15:49] <lool> I suspect a rm_conffile() is missing
[15:50] <asac> lool: yes we fix that ... i wondered if that fix has landed though causing the transitional issues
[15:50] <asac> but apparently it didnt (as you still have 1.9.0.4)
[15:50] <asac> doesnt hurt to have old stuff lying around though ... exscept a bit slower startup
[15:51] <lool> asac: Might be interesting to move it to /usr and allow /etc to override that
[15:51] <lool> Would make the package work at unpack
[15:54] <asac> lool: if thats really the case, yes. i thought about also adding a /usr/share/gre.d/ location or something
[15:54] <asac> lool: you already can override that in $HOME/.gre.conf
[15:55] <asac> or was it $HOME/.gre.d/ ... not clue ;)
[15:55] <asac> so order would be: look in $HOME/.gre.d/ , /etc/gre.d/, /usr/share/gre.d/
[15:56] <asac> any better directory?
[15:58] <lool> No idea :-)
[16:00] <thebishop> Are any managers here.  I had some questions about the Mobile developer position on Canonical.com
[16:08] <bizkut> vista nga ubuntu nih jenis supo keto
[16:35] <cgregan> brianchid.....my poor IRC client is having problems keeping track of all your aliases!
[16:36] <brianchid> tab is your friend cgregan
[16:37] <cgregan> ﻿brianchid: Nah..I prefer diet coke
[16:37] <brianchid> cgregan: touche
[16:48] <cgregan> ﻿brianchid: New greasemonkey script for Payson testing is up
[16:48] <brianchid> cgregan: alright thank you
[17:01] <crevette> hello
[17:33] <cjwatson> FYI I'm fixing the apex FTBFS
[17:35]  * ogra points to #ubuntu-arm :)
[17:36] <cjwatson> oh, doh
[22:04] <ogra> soo, looks like the umpc jaunty imge works 
[22:05] <NCommander> that's good news
[22:06] <ogra> though i'm testing on the jax10 ... cant tell if touchpad is fine 
[22:06] <ogra> but its booting and thats all that counts for now 
[22:27] <playya> ogra, i tested ubiquity-gtk on my eee and it is unusable. the window is 700x600 an my screen is 800x480 -> no next button visible
[22:29] <ogra> yeah
[22:30] <ogra> will get better in jaunty ... we had a session on that
[22:30] <playya> ok.
[22:30] <playya> i thought about writing a hildonized one
[22:31] <playya> with fullscreen
[22:31] <ogra> well, we dropped that intention
[22:31] <ogra> but will fix up the existing gtk one to fit on 800x480
[22:31] <playya> ok
[22:32] <playya> and in jaunty contrain_y is set to false by default?
[22:32] <NCommander> ogra, well, it shouldn't be insanely difficult to cut ubiquity down to size
[22:32] <ogra> we wont have the umpc image in jaunty
[22:32] <ogra> we'll turn that into a netbook one
[22:32] <playya> that causes some undefined behaviours
[22:32] <ogra> which means no compiz
[22:32] <ogra> since it uses the netbook launcher
[22:33] <ogra> which in turn is incompatible with compiz
[22:35] <playya> and what about placing the panels onto the bottom and right
[22:35] <ogra> the netbook image ill have the UNR desktop
[22:35] <ogra> only one top panel
[22:36] <playya> i thought about this an touchscreen devices. if you want to click on sth you have your arm in front of the screen
[22:38] <ogra> yeah, but apparenly touchscreen usage isnt the focus for jaunty ... we'll just make the UNR image 
[22:38] <ogra> there will be touchscreen centric changes to the UNR desktop at some point
[22:38] <ogra> which we then will use 
[22:39] <ogra> the touchscreen centric desktop as you know it from umpc wont happen this time
[22:40] <playya> what was UNR again?
[22:40] <ogra> ubuntu netbook remix
[22:41] <playya> ah ok
[22:41] <NCommander> so then what was umpc specifically?
[22:41] <ogra> it was for touchscreen devices with bigger screens
[22:41]  * playya needs a new project if there is no hildon installer