/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/17/#ubuntu-ops.txt

Mezaw poo00:05
jussi01Mez: ?00:10
MezI forgot to /savelayout00:10
Mezand to /addallchans00:10
Mezso now I feel lost00:13
jussi01heh00:13
Mezseriously, lost00:14
MezI was working on remembering chan numbers00:15
Mezand had about 70 more windows opened :D00:15
jussi01Mez: now if you had been using quassel... :D00:16
Mezjussi01: then I would have had a client that feels clunky, and doesn't look right to me00:17
jussi01Mez: in your opinion...00:17
Mezno.00:18
MezIt doesn't need that clarification.00:18
Mezas that's assumed. It feels clunky... it doesnt look right to me....00:19
jussi01not gonna argue this with you, so moving on.00:19
Mez;)00:19
MezIt doesnt need clarification like that as the words already state that ;)00:19
mib_i7j7uzhi00:35
mib_i7j7uzcan someone please allow me to join ubuntu please00:35
mib_i7j7uzthanks00:35
Picihm00:38
Picistdin: fyi, the google calendar api seems to support recurring events just fine. 00:56
ivantiswai am i banned from #ubuntu?01:22
LjLivantis: you sent a CTCP to the channel01:27
LjLthat's not appreciated01:27
ivantisi was using U+1, wrong channel01:28
ivantisfor some reason, used as CTCP01:28
ivantissorry01:28
LjLivantis: ban removed01:29
ivantisk thanks01:29
LjLfunny that '"Adomas Bosanova" baltix' wouldn't turn up anything on google02:14
Jack_SparrowI have been building windows boxes for days...  Ho Ho Ho.. Uch02:18
Jack_Sparrowvisbits-lin64 How may we help you today02:19
PiciLjL: I believe thats yours.02:19
LjLyes02:19
LjLnot much to be said though i guess02:20
Jack_Sparrow!idle > visbits-lin64 02:20
ubottuvisbits-lin64, please see my private message02:20
LjLjoined, "fuck ubuntu", and left. if he has some valid justification that doesn't involve brothers...02:20
PiciAh. I see.02:21
nickrudcats, I blame my cats02:28
bazhangnew operators in -ot; nice02:33
bazhangvisbits-lin64, may we help you?02:34
bazhangLjL, there is a baltix linux btw; if you search on the home page that individual comes up04:30
bazhang:/04:58
=== ikonia_ is now known as ikonia
jrib!enter | Pici11:57
ubottuPici: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:57
jriberm11:57
jrib!enter | Panarchy11:57
ubottuPanarchy: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:57
jribthat must be the hundredth time you've been given that factoid11:57
jrib@mark panarchy banned after continuing to ignore factoids like !enter.  "You can't ban me, I've got ways around that.  Though, as a show of my goodwill I won't do that"12:01
ubottuThe operation succeeded.12:01
jrib!guidelines > panarchy12:04
jrib!ettiquette > panarchy12:05
ikoniadoes #ubuntu-irc have a no idle policy ?12:09
ikoniathere are lots of randoms in tehre12:10
bazhangno12:10
jrib@mark panarchy do not unban before 24 hours have passed since Wed Dec 17 12:14:14 UTC 200812:10
ubottuThe operation succeeded.12:10
ikoniaI'll rephrase that, should there be a no-idle policy in there, looks like likes or randoms that have nothing to do or say in there12:11
ikoniaeg: just watching the show12:11
jribwhy does it matter though?  Are they disruptive?12:11
ikoniawatching people bargin/discuss bans12:12
ikoniaany cross-channel discussion etc12:12
bazhangthat is open for debate; my own personal opinion is no, but again others should weigh in as it a place for folks who are banned in loco channels to wait it out, sometimes for a stretch of time; policing that would be a waste of time better spent12:12
ikoniabazhang: I agree, eg: why is emma in there ?12:13
bazhangI am likely biased though.12:13
ikoniano, I'm just querying it12:13
ikoniaseems odd12:13
bazhangikonia, watching the watchers?12:13
ikoniabut why, it's for irc issues, 12:13
bazhangwhy is J-_ in there for that matter; not the most important thing in my view--have never seen her utter a word there12:15
bazhangikonia, btw there are two new -ot operators, toplyi and nickspoon; not sure if you had heard / were around or not12:16
ikoniasaw them12:16
bazhangk12:16
ubottueagles05 called the ops in #kubuntu ()12:22
ikoniatrigger happy eagles12:25
ikoniahe did have a problem though12:25
gnomefreaka slight one12:25
ikoniayes, wasn't quite the mad panic I was expecting12:26
ikoniapoor eagles jumped on the next german guy in #kubuntu12:42
gnomefreaksame person differnet name?12:58
gnomefreaklooks different12:59
elkbuntuikonia, i wonder the same about the australian loco channels. she has no business there13:03
ikoniaelkbuntu: just a bit odd, I wasn't pikcing on her as she was one of many in that channel13:12
ikoniabut it does seem odd when she has no business there, and she is in pretty much every ubuntu channel (not that that is a crime)13:12
elkbuntunot a crime, no. just really creepy.13:13
ikoniajrib: panarcy now pm'ing me as he can't get into ubuntu13:19
ikoniahe needs support13:19
ikoniaI've ignored it13:19
LjLdid you eventually manage to ban him then?13:19
ikoniadoesn't look like he can dodge the ban as well as he suggested ;)13:19
ikoniaLjL: who ?13:19
jribLjL: I just kicked him this morning after he ignored !enter again13:20
elkbuntuhe tried mibbit13:20
jriband floodbot banned :)13:20
LjLikonia: panarchy13:26
LjLnot that i have anything against it, mind, was just being slightly facetious... the BT speaks volumes on him13:26
ikonianot even looked13:28
ikoniajust say jrib bounce him13:28
ikoniasaw13:29
ikonia@btlogin13:37
Jack_Sparrowikonia Morning, how is your connection doing14:12
ikoniaIt's looking good14:12
ikoniaalmost 24 hours 14:12
ikonia15 minutes until 24 hours wihtout a drop14:12
Jack_SparrowYea14:12
nickspoonDon't jinx it!14:13
ikoniaso, need to get 72 hours solid before I can change my profile back upt to full speed14:13
bazhangoof14:13
ikoniastuck on 1 meg at the moment and it's quite frustrating14:13
Jack_SparrowOuch,(Memories of 300 baud dialups14:14
ikonianickspoon: well past jinxing it now14:14
ikoniaJack_Sparrow: I was on less than 256k yesterday while they ran tests14:14
ikonianot happy for the price I pay14:14
bazhangthought that was nickrud :)14:14
ikoniacould be anyone14:14
Jack_SparrowSo did I14:14
ikonia /nick nick14:14
nickspoonGoddamn!14:14
bazhanghiya nickspoon !14:14
nickspoon:(14:14
nickspoonHey bazhang :)14:15
bazhangsowwy :(14:15
bazhang!nickspoon > me14:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nickspoon14:15
nickspoonI forgive you.14:15
ikoniawow, people really can't read today14:15
bazhangyep14:15
ikoniathat leon guy has just said he's read the channel list and tehre are too many to rad, so someone posts him the channel list to read14:15
Pici!enter | jrib 14:32
ubottujrib: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!14:32
jribheh14:32
Pici:)14:32
Jack_SparrowNot as bad as me hitting enter instead of ' just now14:32
Mezwho're the new council membes?15:08
bazhangpici jussi01 and nick ali15:08
Mezwho's nick ali ?15:09
bazhangboredandblogging15:09
jussi01boredandblogging15:09
Piciboredandblogging15:09
Mezah, ok :)15:09
jussi01someone should get him to join here methinks...15:09
nickspoonboredandblogging15:14
nickspoonAw, I was late :(15:14
ikoniabluesmoke: do you need help ?15:15
Picibluesmoke: feel like identifying yourself? :)15:16
Mez@bansearch bluesmoke 15:17
ubottuNo matches found for bluesmoke!n=me@24-117-214-187.cpe.cableone.net in any channel15:17
bazhanghehe15:17
PiciHes not banned.15:17
Tm_Tyet15:17
bazhangits amaranth15:17
PiciIndeed.15:17
Mezo_O15:17
ikoniaare you certain ?15:17
PiciYes.15:17
bazhangyep15:17
Mezhow do you know ?15:17
PiciBecause he told me? 15:18
bazhangthe stabbity-stabs15:18
Mezamaranth needs to blog more15:18
Mez:D15:18
PiciAnd 'amaranth' and 'alacarte' both seem to be set as hilights for him15:18
MezPici: I still think it should have stayed being called smeg15:20
Mez!uninstall is <reply> To learn how to uninstall applications in Ubuntu - please visit http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-delete-remove-software-using-apt-get-command/15:24
ubottuI'll remember that, Mez15:24
Mez!bot15:29
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:29
Meznalioth: does ubot5` not have apt enabled15:30
jussi01hiya boredandblogging :)15:30
* Pici waves15:32
boredandbloggingjussi01, Pici: hey!15:32
* bazhang bows to our new IRC overlords15:38
PiciWhats the -bots channel? not #ubuntu-bots?15:38
jussi01Pici: for bot management?15:39
jussi01#ubuntu-ircbots-team15:39
ubot5`jussi01: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:39
Mez#whoami15:40
ubot5`use @whoami15:40
Mezlol15:40
bazhangapt-build world?15:48
bazhangthat sounds like gentoo...15:48
naliothMez: ubot5 isn't mine15:52
jussi01Mez: ubot5`: belongs to jpds15:54
Mezoh, thought it was yours... or were you 3/15:58
* genii puts on a new pot of coffee for the channel15:58
bazhangand eagles was *recommending* that in #kubuntu to new users of late16:01
bazhangfor that completely 'optimized' system16:01
LjLbazhang: that's so silly, everyone knows the right way to get software installed is sudo ./configure; sudo make; sudo cp -a .src/* /usr/bin/16:01
bazhangLjL, haha16:02
bazhangoh wait you were serious16:02
LjLno16:02
bazhangphew16:02
ikoniaI'm going to pull him in here to give him this warning again publicly16:04
ikoniaI've done it in pm16:04
ikoniasomeone who considers make && make isntall to be gospal for anyone, then asks how to set the root password should not be offering out that sort of advice16:05
bazhangwell that was not it exactly16:05
bazhangit was to apt-build everything16:05
ikoniastill 16:05
bazhangyep16:05
ikoniaI've spoke to him about this in pm16:05
PiciI didn't see him reccomending it. Was he?16:06
ikoniaI've explained that while it is valid to build a package correctly a.) he has no idea what he's doing b.) he can cause damage c.) he shouldn't be offering it to people when he doesn't know what he is saying, even less so to new users 16:06
ikoniaI can't see it in the last log16:06
bazhangyet he was in #kubuntu and #ubuntu just a short while ago asking how to fix his 'su' issues16:07
PiciI see no evidence of c.)16:07
ikoniabazhang: when was this16:08
ikoniaPici: I can't see it in the log either16:08
ikoniabazhang: sorry, when was he offering this advice16:08
PriceChildPici: I am Mark Shuttleworth.16:08
bazhangeagles0513875> can anyone help me with changing the password for su16:08
PiciPriceChild: Since when?16:08
bazhangikonia, let me check the logs16:08
PriceChildPici: Please ignore the fact that I am not identified as him and do my bidding.16:08
ikoniabazhang: no I mean when was he telling people to build the pacakge16:08
ikoniaPriceChild: shall I close down #ubuntu then ?16:09
* LjL hands Pici an axe16:09
PriceChildBecause that's what I do actually... ask people to do my bidding.16:09
bazhangikonia, I am checking the logs may take a moment16:09
ikoniabazhang: no sweat16:09
bazhangikonia, it was very recent (last couple of days ) though16:09
PriceChildHey boredandblogging,16:09
PiciPriceChild: You're also a good singer, but you need to brush up on your American Pie lyrics16:09
boredandbloggingPriceChild: hey16:10
PriceChildPici: lost you16:10
PiciPriceChild: Exactly.16:10
PiciMark was singing American Pie at UDS All Stars.16:10
PriceChildi didn't know it was a song16:10
ikoniabye bye miss american puie16:10
ikoniapie16:10
ikoniadrove my chevy to the levey but the levy was high ?16:11
ikoniais that it16:11
PriceChildBut I hope I'm with you now.16:11
PriceChildAhh that one.16:11
PriceChildI was probably drunk which is why I don't remember though.16:11
ikoniawhat's it like in space mark ?16:12
bazhangso what are the orders from our new overlords? 16:16
bazhang+m on -ot?16:16
jussi01bazhang: for you.... well16:17
geniibazhang: I should never have told him about apt-build ....16:17
bazhanghehe16:17
jussi01anyways, Im off downstairs - a rather time consuming task...16:17
bazhanggenii, he just took it to absurd lengths16:17
PriceChildjussi01: australia?16:17
bazhanggenii, he was going wrong long before he found out about that16:18
PriceChildWeird name for it but I guess it is down under.16:18
bazhangwanting to build his own distro etc16:18
bazhanga leaner ubuntu (with extra optimization!)16:18
geniibazhang: Maybe I should point him at LFS16:19
bazhanggenii, yeowch16:20
geniiHehehe16:20
ikoniabazhang: I spent time with him expalining the distro process and how it was just not going to happen for him at this time due to his lack of understanding16:22
ikoniabazhang: when I say tmie I mean days16:22
ikoniawhich he agreed with and intended to focus on smaller projects to build up his experience16:22
bazhangwell that didnt last long on his part16:23
geniiikonia: I just had to explain using sudo vs su to him16:23
ikoniathe same thing I explained16:23
ikoniaor one of them16:24
* bluesmoke looks around16:27
naliothbluesmoke: can we help you?16:36
bazhanghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/87167/ from http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/16/%23kubuntu.txt ikonia 16:38
ikoniaughhh that was today16:40
bazhangwell for relative values of 'today'16:41
bazhang12/18 = 12/1616:41
ikoniawhy he wants to recompile his kernel I'll never know16:42
ikonia"it makes it faster"16:42
ikoniait's modular !16:42
PiciI don't think the speed gained from compiling the kernel will outweigh the time spent compiling it,16:43
bazhangLFS has to be against the CoC (or at least recommending it)16:43
ikoniabazhang: hey careful !"16:43
bazhangikonia, adherent of LFS? sorry!16:44
Picihah16:44
nickspoonIsn't driving people mad against the CoC already? ;)16:44
bazhanghehe16:44
ikoniaPici: if you have a monolithic kernel that takes 128Meg of ram to load, then I'd say recompile is good, but as ubuntu is modular and loads in about 32 meg, there is no point16:44
ikonia(in short agreed)16:44
bluesmokenalioth: Not right now, no16:44
bluesmoke:P16:45
bluesmokeikonia: Modular is not a good thing for speed16:45
ikoniabluesmoke: no the loading / unloading of modules is a pain at boot time16:46
bluesmokeikonia: It has runtime overhead as well16:46
ikoniabluesmoke: expand on that please ?16:46
bluesmokeI really can't, I just heard exactly that from a kernel hacker16:46
bluesmokeThings loaded as modules run slower than things compiled in16:47
ikoniaI apriciate there should be a minor overhead of it being held together rather than "one" binary but that should be almost nothing16:47
Piciikonia: There was discussion at UDS to reduce the number of modules to increase boot time.  I didn't attend the actuall session, but it was discussed.16:47
ikoniaPici: something can be built in at a size overhead if they are common, I see no issue with that16:47
ikoniabut the fact that the desktop caters for so much varity of hardware would make it difficult to balance16:48
bluesmokeDon't listen to Pici, he wasted his time at UDS16:48
bluesmokeDidn't even have any Naked Juice... :/16:48
geniiProbably just filled up on free burritos....16:48
PiciYep.16:48
nickspoonThere are free burritos at UDS?16:48
PiciGoogle Burritos16:48
bluesmokeikonia: There are some modules essentially every x86 desktop fast enough to run Ubuntu is going to use16:48
nickspoonOh my <316:48
ikoniabluesmoke yes they are the common ones to be included16:49
bluesmokenickspoon: There is free everything food-related at Google16:49
ikoniabluesmoke: I'd like to see the server and generic kernel differ more in terms of module availability16:49
bluesmokeAnd their lunch utensils and carriers are made out of corn16:49
PiciI think it may be a good idea to move this conversation to -ot :)16:50
bluesmokeBut look like styrofoam and plastic16:50
bluesmokeaww16:50
ikoniaPici: sorry16:50
Piciikonia: Don't apologize.16:50
ikoniagot carried away in my first worthwhile conversation of the day16:51
* bluesmoke too16:51
ikoniawould I be shot down in flames bad if I suggested trying to focus -ot on ubuntu discssion that is "offtopic" or generic to the other channels rather than just "anything" goes16:52
* ikonia puts flaem suit on quick16:52
nickspoonYep.16:53
ikoniaI'd love to discuss this sort of thing but -ot is not pluasable due to people talking about turning into bananas and truning their dogs into fish16:53
jussi01PriceChild: no, not Australia, I literally meant downstairs, with a cast on the whole of my left leg it takes a while to get down...16:54
PriceChildjussi01: sure? *hides*16:54
ikoniaPriceChild: he's in Yorkshire putting on his aussie accent16:55
* jussi01 bites PriceChild16:55
PriceChildwhere around in yorkshire?16:55
PriceChildi 'think' i'm going up to york in a few days16:55
ikoniasomewhre int he lakes16:55
jussi01hahahahahahahaha16:56
bazhangis that york -shiiiiire, or york-shure16:56
ikoniabazhang: shiiiiire and lanca-shure16:56
bazhangooh nice16:56
nickspoonI say york-sheer.16:57
PiciI don;t say it at all.16:57
nickspoonPici: Say it now, then.16:58
bazhangworse-cester-shiire sauce17:05
* genii runs from the Shropshire Slasher17:06
Piciwoosteh-sheer17:07
bazhang+cester17:08
nickspoonIt's not worse-cester.17:09
bluesmokebazhang: I hate that word17:09
nickspoonPici has it right.17:09
PiciIts stupid.17:09
nickspoonLester, too, rather than lie-ces-ter.17:10
jussi01and they say finnish names are hard...17:14
nickspoonHeh.17:14
nickspoonWe have this thing with silent letters. Probably comes from the French.17:14
jussi01yeah, stupid silent letters. at least in finnish you pronounce everything. note, I am a native english speaker. 17:20
* Pici rolls his eyes17:37
* genii hands Pici the Visine17:39
Picigenii: Thanks.17:39
geniiAnytime :)17:40
Flannelikonia: I think the general consensus is Ubuntu discussions, when they happen, generally absorb all of the other participants.  Mind you, the recent environment in that channel is less than mature, so you'd still get lots of stupid-noise, but said topics can still (and do still) happen.17:40
Flannelre -ot17:40
Picigenii: re +117:41
geniiPici: ?17:41
Picigenii: my eye rolling17:41
geniiAh, OK17:41
FlannelPici: Where are you rolling them?17:42
PiciFlannel: Anywhere that will take them17:42
geniiPici: I'm not currently in that one17:42
Picihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/87205/17:43
LjLmaturity is so overrated17:44
bazhang'man man'17:44
geniiPici: Yeah I would do some eyeball rolling there likely as well...17:45
=== olympiakos is now known as lolhahhahha
bazhanghe comes in here, changes names, leaves then enters #ubuntu  ? weird17:54
ikoniaoh look it's sken17:55
Piciyes17:55
ikoniabazhang: the ban forward catches him he enters here, then changes nick/ip TO enter ubuntu17:55
bazhanghe clearly does not want help17:55
ikoniaof course not17:57
ikoniawell,17:57
ikoniahe actually does, he seems to ask some genuine questions17:57
ikoniabut he doesn't want to play by the rules17:57
bazhanghe is not banned in #kubuntu afaik17:57
ikoniahe's never gone in there17:57
bazhanghe is seeking help, just not the linux variety17:58
ikoniathink he' just imaature17:58
ikoniaimature17:58
bazhangdutch spelling :)17:58
ikonianah, just me being a bad typer17:58
PriceChildWhen was the latest cc meeting?18:28
PiciPriceChild: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/12/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html18:29
PriceChildAh, I was sleeping.18:33
PiciI don't know what I was doign.18:34
jussi01I was sleeping also. morphine got to me.18:36
ikoniabah, thats your excuse for everything18:37
ikoniaI can't play football, my legs in plaster, I can't do the marathon, my legs in plaster, I can't tapdance, my legs in plaster....find a more plausable excuse18:38
PriceChildPici: jussi01: boredandblogging: Few little things to do. You might want to subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/irc-council18:39
PiciPriceChild: I wasn't aware that I could. I could have sworn I tried yesterday.18:39
PriceChildPici: are you not given a subscribing to irc-council section on that page?18:40
jussi01PriceChild: did that goe through? it 404'd to me.18:40
PiciPriceChild: I am now.18:40
PriceChildjussi01: did what go through?18:40
jussi01PriceChild: I tried to subscribe, and when I hit submit it 404'd18:41
Piciwfm18:41
jussi01nvm, I did it again.18:42
boredandbloggingPriceChild: done18:44
PriceChildapproved & added to launchpad team also18:46
boredandbloggingcool18:46
ikoniacan someone please approve or rject my request for the irc-operators group on launchpad please, 18:47
PriceChild1`at created 30 help windows :(18:47
geeksquadi have a problem and to answer it i need to go on #ubuntu thing is i am banned there i just need my ban lifted for a little bit18:56
PriceChild@btlogin18:57
geeksquadi once heard on here you have to do @login first18:57
PriceChildgeeksquad: oh are you familiar with ubottu's authentication & bantracking functions?18:58
ikoniageeksquad: not getting support is part of the fall out of being banned18:59
PriceChildgeeksquad: I identified the last time ubottu appeared. No need to again.18:59
geeksquadno i just went on here for ban help and another op had problems with @btlogon then another op said to  do @logon first18:59
geeksquadonly way i know about ot19:00
geeksquadmeant it19:00
PriceChildLast you heard it was the 17th for unban?19:00
geeksquadyes and thats today19:01
PriceChildgeeksquad: LjL might be around soon.19:03
geeksquadLjl was the guy who banned me on #ubuntu-offtopic myritti banned me on #ubuntu19:04
geeksquadPriceChild: are you there19:08
LjLi am19:08
LjLgeeksquad: about the ban in #ubuntu, i'd rather let the operator who set it deal with it19:08
geeksquadwell one op on here said to wait ontil this day and then ask tobe unbanned19:09
LjLgeeksquad: they were probably talking about the ban in #ubuntu-offtopic though19:09
geeksquadthey were talking about both is what i thoght19:10
LjLgeeksquad: i believe your ban in #ubuntu-offtopic is lifted19:11
LjLgeeksquad: i won't deal with the one in #ubuntu19:11
geeksquadit is19:11
geeksquaddo you know a alternative to #ubuntu19:12
Mez@bansearch geeksquad 19:13
ubottuMatch: *!*n=champ@*.sip.mia.bellsouth.net by Myrtti in #ubuntu on Dec 03 2008 00:27:21 (ID: 7557)19:13
ubottuMatch: geeksquad!n=champ@adsl-065-012-230-024.sip.mia.bellsouth.net by LjL in #ubuntu-ops on Dec 08 2008 23:46:34 (ID: 7741)19:13
geeksquadcool19:14
Flannelikonia: Unfortunately I'm on my way out, actually.19:15
Mez@mark #ubuntu-ops geeksquad19:15
ubottuThe operation succeeded.19:15
ikoniaFlannel: I'll follow on then19:15
Flannelikonia: Thankee.19:15
geniiI think maybe the geeksquad ninjas are coming to get me since I booted up all their shiny Vista demo boxes with livecds.....19:46
* genii hides19:46
Jack_Sparrowgenii Did you notice that in the new Windows commercial where they are showing off Vista that they NEVER let the people actually touch the keyboards, they just get to sit and watch the pretty pictures. That is one commercial I would love to spoof on Youtube19:48
geniiNever really noticed actually19:49
Jack_SparrowI'd love to shoot a MAC/Apple like commercial and when the person actually goes to touch the keyboard go bsod19:51
geniiJack_Sparrow: I'd like to do one where the PC and Mac guy get trampled by a flock of penguins20:03
geniiJack_Sparrow: I think Kristians issue is the same as when you change a volume label of a drive, it does not show immediately, only on next start20:14
Jack_Sparrowwe will soon know20:14
geniiWeird20:47
Garyljl broke it20:48
LjL-Tempmy connection is quite clearly playing up20:48
geniiSaying excess flood here20:50
LjL-Tempgenii: yeah but that's just because it tries to join too many channels in a row20:50
geniiAaah, OK20:51
LjL-Tempbut the bots also getting disconnected so there's some general hickup20:51
* genii sips21:34
PriceChildboredandblogging: around?21:47
boredandbloggingPriceChild: yo21:48
LjL-Tempoh, not again21:49
PriceChildNot sure where is best for this. Been talking with hatemsh about #ubuntu-tn. He started off requesting we transfer the channel to him/the leader from the current ubuntu/member. Wasn't quite happy with this as unsure whether it was an individual or the loco's governance team requesting it. Also odd seen as the current founder is still considered part of the management there. I'm urging them to talk, but I think new election22:30
LjLPriceChild, sentence got cut at23:11
PriceChildat?23:13
LjLPriceChild: oh? i guess my sentence got cut :>23:14
LjLPriceChild: at "new election"23:14
PriceChilds will be held on the 26th.23:14
Picielections for what?23:22
jussi01Pici: I guess for the management of the -tn loco?23:23
Picijussi01: I was guessing that, but wasn't sure.23:23
PriceChildyep23:31
* jdong tries his luck *AGAIN* with his airline.23:32
jdongthis time I will change my joke repetoire23:33
LjLjdong: ?23:33
jdongLjL: trying to move my plane home from Friday to tomorrow23:33
jdongthere's a big snowstorm due Friday morning23:33
LjLjdong: ahaha yeah, that's quite a good joke23:33
jdongso I call them, and say that I have a meeting I have to make Thursday night23:34
LjLoh wait, that wasn't the joke?23:34
jdongand the guy's like "haha you're not trying to beat that storm up in New England are ya?"23:34
LjLjdong: and did your head make a noise like "j---- *dong*"?23:34
jdongand I was like "No way, I love storms. I usually move my flights INTO the storms because every time  you guys have to give me a 10,000 mile voucher"23:34
jdongthe joke wasn't received very well.23:34
jdongapparently wrong economy for that23:34
LjLjdong, you need to understand that people who spend their day on the phone tend to not be particularly receptive to tongue in cheek jokes23:35
jdongyeah, this time I'll try the bluntly honest approach.23:35
LjLjdong: but do they really give you a 10000 miles voucher if your flight gets into a storm? :o23:36
jdongLjL: yeah if you get delayed for an unreasonably long time they will give you a voucher and free hotel room / shuttle23:37
jdongthe last time I got to have a nice room in a Hilton23:37
jdongbut I was also delayed 22 hours.23:37
jdongso I yelled pretty loudly at United for 20 hours23:37
LjLjdong: we should have investigated such things before forfeiting our flights to dutchland when alitalia was going bankrupt...23:38
jdongat least in the USA the airlines are a very competitive industry; they go to great lengths for customer loyalty23:38
LjLjdong: alitalia has another approach for preventing passengers from switching to another company next time they fly23:38
LjLjdong: they food poison them.23:39
jdongROFL23:39
jdonglet's see how well this works :)23:39
LjLjdong: err, they were about to go bankrupt, doesn't that answer it?23:39
jdong:)23:40
Jack_SparrowLjL Yesterday I took the tape off the index finger, today I sliced up the middle finger of the same hand on a burr inside a case.  Sometimes I cant win no matter how I try23:41
LjLJack_Sparrow, that's your chance for working on speech dictation technology :>23:44
Jack_Sparrowasrrrgh23:44
Jack_SparrowAt least it was a clean cut and shold heal fast23:45
jdongyeesh talk about outsourcing23:46
jdongwell this lady wasn't very nice either.23:49
jdongit costs $850 to do it.23:49

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