[00:00] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, np. Sounds good enough. So yeah, nwo for the real part. You know how to mount your USB to /media/backup ?
[00:00] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, not really, I know how to unmount, but thats about it
[00:00] <cris_core> Ok. I have entered xset q and a lot of text came up. now what?
[00:01] <BigMike> ???? hi is it possible to have compiz cube working on both KDE and Gnome desktops?
[00:01] <grobda24> BigMike, I think the Compiz website can tell you about that.
[00:01] <hischild> GodfatherofEire, ok, then just plug it in and check if you can write to it.
[00:01] <stroyan> cris_core:  You can set the repeat delay and rate with "xset r rate 1000 30".  The first number is milliseconds of delay.  The second number is repeat rate per second.
[00:02] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: we're good
[00:02] <stroyan> cris_core:  What did the line starting with " auto repeat delay" report?
[00:02] <hischild> GodfatherofEire, good to hear. Can u install foremost for me?
[00:02] <GodfatherofEire2> Yeah
[00:03] <GodfatherofEire2> Oi, I keep goin to use my normal system shortcuts
[00:04] <cris_core> I did what you said and now it says 1000 and 30. before it said 1500 and 24. but it does not seem to effect the delay rate. is the effect immediate?
[00:04] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, you have _NO_ backup of it?
[00:04] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: er, no
[00:04] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, why not ... ?
[00:05] <[TiZ]> Hi. How do I add custom resolutions in Intrepid?
[00:05] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: I didnt think that I'd screw something like this up
[00:05] <comm_> Is there anyway to manually change the package selection when installing 8.10 alternative? Or is there a way to just install the base system and nothing more.
[00:05] <DarkKnight> hischild; u asked something about converting pdf...did u get the solution??
[00:06] <hischild> DarkKnight, i did not ask, perhaps you have the wrong nick?
[00:06] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, lol ... always make backups. Anyway ... what sort of files need recovering?
[00:06] <hischild> comm_, check the options for the minimal install. F4 gives you those, iirc.
[00:07] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: most of em
[00:07] <DarkKnight> hischild; okk maybe someone else...never mind
[00:07] <CaneToad> anyone had success with VMWARE on 8.10?  Even with updates I keep getting "missing MODULE_LICENSE" in vmnet.o
[00:07] <comm> hischild: will do. thanks.
[00:07] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: specificly, music, system config
[00:08] <majnoon> !ot
[00:08] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: also, normal docs, like office docs too
[00:09] <cris_core> stroyan: I did what you said and now it says 1000 and 30. before it said 1500 and 24. but it does not seem to effect the delay rate. is the effect immediate?
[00:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> Can I install Kubuntu alongside Ubuntu as a Dual Boot config, even though I have already partitioned my HDD entirely for Ubuntu?
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Until_It_Sleeps you can do that or just add kubuntu-desktop and select at login
[00:10] <\Kira> when I run this command: sudo rsync -a --delete /home/ /media/sdc/Gemini. I get a whole bunch of permision errors. Whats going on?
[00:10] <\Kira> its trying to chown and chmod
[00:11] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, alright. Open up a terminal, then type this -->
[00:11] <Lexvegas> Hey. Is it theoretically possible to tripple, or even quadrupple boot? (testing distros...)
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Lexvegas yes
[00:11] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, fdisk -l (that's a small L)
[00:11] <\Kira> Lexvegas: theoretically
[00:11] <Lexvegas> Okay, Thanks
[00:11] <\Kira> Lexvegas: its been done before, but it depends on your system
[00:12] <Lexvegas> ok
[00:12] <joeb3_> \Kira, do you have write access to /media/sdc/Gemini?
[00:12] <\Kira> joeb3_: im using sudo, though?
[00:12] <\Kira> joeb3_: how could I check permissions from the terminal
[00:13] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, alright, what for the output?
[00:13] <joeb3_> \Kira, ls -l
[00:13] <eseven73> Lexvegas: if you just want to test different distros, you could just use virtualbox or vmware server
[00:13] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, you know which partition you need to get data from?
[00:13] <detox420> hey guys im trying to set up a FTP on the latest ubuntu ive followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 and cant connect still
[00:13] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild /dev/sda1
[00:14] <\Kira> joeb3_: "drwxr-xr-x 7 root root" its owned by root, but im not sure how to read those permissions. (im used to numerical)
[00:14] <Lexvegas> eseven73, that sounds good. Ill give it a try
[00:15] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, mkdir ~/recover; sudo foremost -w -i /dev/sda1 -o ~/recover
[00:15] <georgy_28> \Kira, : 755
[00:15] <detox420> anyone know how i can go about getting this FTP to work?
[00:15] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, will give you a log of which files it can recover in ~/recover
[00:15] <joeb3_> \Kira, does "sudo -l" show (ALL) ALL  ?
[00:15] <\Kira> georgy_28: thanks
[00:16] <ramontayag_> hi everyone. i need a bit of help with stunnel. how do i connect that to my mail server (remote server) so my mail client (locally) will just connect to stunnel? my problem arose with this change in my program (if this'll help): http://github.com/rails/rails/commit/732c724df61bc8b780dc42817625b25a321908e4, and someone gave me this to follow http://www.stunnel.org/examples/generic_tunnel.html...
[00:16] <ramontayag_> ...but I couldn't get it to work.  I tried "sudo stunnel -c -d 50493 -r mymailserver.com:26" but when I connect to it it times out
[00:16] <FloodBot1> ramontayag_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <GodfatherofEire2> also: hischild: foremost isnt in the repos
[00:16] <GodfatherofEire2> Not mine
[00:16] <\Kira> joeb3_: what do you mean by (ALL) ALL? I dont see that in the output, if thats what you mean
[00:16] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, enable all repo's, then install it please.
[00:16] <joeb3_> \Kira, what do you see if you type "sudo -l"  ?
[00:17] <\Kira> joeb3_: http://pastebin.com/d5fed8217
[00:18] <Limmy> Hey im in real trouble... can any1 please help me ??
[00:18] <georgy_28> !ask | Limmy
[00:18] <usser> Limmy, just ask your question if anybody knows an answer they will answer
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Limmy
[00:18] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, like backends etc?
[00:18] <\Kira> Limmy: dont ask to ask a question, if someone knows the answer, they will most likely answer
[00:18] <Limmy> ok.
[00:18] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, all
[00:19] <flako> Escriba el texto aquí....hola
[00:19] <flako> algun bi
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !es > flako
[00:19] <flako> en est canal
[00:19] <joeb3_> \Kira, look at what I added.   http://pastebin.com/d1de9b3c0
[00:19] <flako> manden pv
[00:19] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, sorry, missed that bit under software sources
[00:20] <hischild> !info foremost
[00:20] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, at least enable the universe ones.
[00:20] <GodfatherofEire2> Hischild, just did, missed that at first
[00:20] <Limmy> Well when i installed XCHAT it froze up at the last second and i had to manually reboot my computer, now im back on and my synaptics and my add/remove do not work... it keeps telling me i have to do dpkg -configure -a    but that doesnt work... and ive been trying to figure this out for at least 2 hours now and cant find any help or figure it out on my own.
[00:20] <\Kira> joeb3_: yes, I get (ALL) ALL
[00:21] <joeb3_> \Kira, paste the errors.
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[00:21] <ccidral> hello, I've installed ubuntu 8.10 in pt-BR, now I'm trying to find out how to change the language of my user account to en-US, but have not found anything helpful in google...
[00:21] <soreau> qcjn: Basically, you have a package installation problem, and I don't know what it means, but it's not a compiz specific problem
[00:21] <\Kira> joeb3_: the errors from the rysnc command?
[00:21] <ccidral> i want to change only my user's language
[00:21] <joeb3_> \Kira, yes
[00:21] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, still nothing
[00:21] <qcjn> soreau: ok
[00:21] <GodfatherofEire2> All repos enabled, etc
[00:21] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, you did update after?
[00:21] <soreau> qcjn: I think there is a french ubuntu channel somewhere
[00:21] <jrib> ccidral: click "options" at the login screen
[00:22] <soreau> !fr
[00:22] <Limmy> that did not work. i get the same error ive been getting.. dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1:
[00:22] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, yes
[00:22] <qcjn> yes i know but i thought it was specific to compiz
[00:22] <Limmy>  field name `' must be followed by colon
[00:22] <ccidral> jrib right, let me try
[00:22] <\Kira> joeb3_: http://pastebin.com/d23cf8d33
[00:22] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, and this is ubuntu 8.10 liveCD right?
[00:22] <onetinsoldier> Limmy: what happens when you do try the  dpkg -configure -a ..what response do you get?
[00:22] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild yeah
[00:22] <soreau> qcjn: Go paste that problem error in #ubuntu-fr and maybe here too
[00:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Limmy HAve you made changes to your sources lis manually
[00:22] <cobra-the-joker> hey there every one
[00:23] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, and this doesn't install it --> sudo aptitude update  && sudo aptitude install foremost
[00:23] <qcjn> soreau: good idea
[00:23] <soreau> I know ;)
[00:23] <elizeu> oi
[00:23] <[TiZ]> Hi. I'm trying to add some custom 16:10 resolutions to X. Resolutions like 960x600 and 768x480. This was so easy to do in Hardy. It only took adding Display subsections to the Screen section. But in Intrepid, even with custom modelines, I can't get any custom resolutions! Can anyone help me?
[00:23] <cobra-the-joker> i just installed ubu :D....but i wanted to get the hole packages of php development ...how to (isnt there an apt command that gets it all ;)  )
[00:23] <SRazi> hi everyone
[00:23] <Limmy> No.. i told you, my install of XCHAT froze and i had to reboot. manually. when i got back on... none of my installers work... i cant install anything.. or open any of my install managers... because it keeps telling me that stupid dpkg command that Does NOT work.
[00:24] <Limmy> i just installed linux using Wubi...
[00:24] <hischild> !aptfix | Limmy (Do this!)
[00:24] <cobra-the-joker> pls ...its urgetnt
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> Limmy: when you do try the  dpkg -configure -a ..what response do you get?
[00:24] <qcjn> Little problem...http://pastebin.ca/1287196        i'm on Ubuntu 8.04
[00:24] <Limmy> i did that ubottu.. it gave me the same error..
[00:24] <exodus_ms> cobra-the-joker, !php
[00:24] <hischild> Limmy, what error.
[00:24] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild, that did it
[00:24] <onetinsoldier> Limmy: do you know how to use pastebin?
[00:24] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, installed?
[00:24] <Limmy> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 1:
[00:24] <[TiZ]> !php | cobra-the-joker
[00:25] <joeb3_> \Kira, try adding a trailing / to your destination
[00:25] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild yep
[00:25] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to add some custom 16:10 resolutions to X. Resolutions like 960x600 and 768x480. This was so easy to do in Hardy. It only took adding Display subsections to the Screen section. But in Intrepid, even with custom modelines, I can't get any custom resolutions! Can anyone help me?
[00:25] <cobra-the-joker> !php ???..there isnt dev packages for php ??:(
[00:25] <chimp> How can I see what possible kernel modules there are, as Im trying blindly with modprobe
[00:25] <\Kira> joeb3_: same
[00:25] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, mkdir ~/recover; sudo foremost -w -i /dev/sda1 -o ~/recover  should give you a list of files recoverable in ~/recover.
[00:25] <joeb3_> \Kira, you can use -n to test
[00:25] <Limmy> im so confused...
[00:25] <chimp> ie modulelist | grep foo
[00:25] <[TiZ]> cobra-the-joker, did you even read ubottu's statement above?
[00:26] <cobra-the-joker> Ok
[00:26] <onetinsoldier> Limmy: that's not a good error to be getting. let me see the first couple of lines of your /var/lib/dpkg/status file
[00:26] <joeb3_> \Kira, are the source and destination filesystems the same?
[00:26] <Limmy> 2 hours of installing... and im now not allowed to install any actual programs because xchat froze... rofl.
[00:26] <Limmy> omg..
[00:26] <Limmy> forget this.. im just going to reinstall everything... i hate this.....
[00:26] <[TiZ]> Limmy, you don't seem to be paying attention either.
[00:26] <[TiZ]> !aptfix | Limmy
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Limmy Please also understand that wubi is more of a test drive that something for everyday use.  Please read the wubi faq to understand how it differs from a regular partition install
[00:27] <Limmy> bye.. thanks for trying to help me.. lol, but im too freaking confused..
[00:27] <\Kira> joeb3_: one of them is a external harddrive, which im guessing would be FAT32 or something. So I dont think so, is that the cause of the program
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi > Limmy
[00:27] <\Kira> joeb3_: ?
[00:27] <[TiZ]> Limmy, you can't copy and paste "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a" into a terminal?
[00:27] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, using the manpage of foremost and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery you'll get it all back.
[00:27] <onetinsoldier> poor Limmy
[00:27] <joeb3_> \Kira, that's causing the permissions errors.
[00:28] <hischild> GodfatherofEire2, i need some sleep now. Please ask the channel should something go wrong, ok?
[00:28] <\Kira> joeb3_: know of any fix?
[00:28] <joeb3_> \Kira, looking...
[00:28]  * hischild waves you all a happy morning/afternoon/evening/goodnight (make your choice) and the best of luck and all that.  
[00:28] <\Kira> hischild: BYE!!!!
[00:28] <GodfatherofEire2> hischild: thank you
[00:28] <orudie> does anyone know what Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 Virtual Machine is ?
[00:29] <Alpert> Hey
[00:29] <Limmy> Wubi is the only way for me to install linux.. i cant do it any other way...
[00:29] <Limmy> i cant burn anything.. and i cant buy flashdrives..
[00:29] <DasEI>  orudie:see:
[00:29] <DasEI> !virtual
[00:29] <Alpert> I am partitioning ubuntu, and I cant get my wireless internet to work
[00:29] <taget3> can someone explain or point me in the right direction as how to make the grub menu come up by default instead of booting without seeing the menu
[00:29] <[TiZ]> That stinks, Limmy. But what is it about copying and pasting something into a terminal that is so confusing?
[00:29] <Alpert> how do I do that? I have a built in Dell card
[00:29] <Alpert> and I have lynksys
[00:29] <Alpert> query me if you want :)
[00:29] <failsnail> Hey- Anyone in here use an acer aspire one? I've got 8.10 on mine and the wifi doesnt show up at all, not even in iwconfig or dmesg
[00:29] <Limmy> i did.... do it..
[00:29] <DasEI>  orudie:ultimate is often the latest kernel from kernel org,  prbly a vm build with that
[00:29] <Limmy> i told you..
[00:29] <failsnail> though it works fine in windows
[00:30] <Limmy> and i got the same problem error......
[00:30] <orudie> DasEI, so thats basically vmware version made to run on ubuntu desktop ?
[00:30] <georgy_28> taget3, iy is in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:30] <[TiZ]> I see
[00:30] <Ax4> help! the recent ubuntu killed my audio playback..........WHY!!!!!! WHY UBUNTU WHY!!!!!!!!
[00:30]  * Ax4 cries
[00:30] <[TiZ]> I can't help you any further. I'm sorry.
[00:30] <Alpert> [TiZ[
[00:30] <[TiZ]> Yes, Alpert?
[00:30] <DasEI>  orudie:I think it's a vm for vmware
[00:30] <Alpert> Can you help me out?
[00:30] <DasEI>  orudie:see:
[00:30] <taget3> georgy_28, the option to force the menu ?
[00:30] <DasEI> !ultimate
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> taget3 For one time use hit escape,
[00:31] <DasEI>  orudie:vm = virtual machine
[00:31] <Limmy> yah... well fuck you guys too then... bunch of faggots....
[00:31] <taget3> failsnail, do you know the chipset ?
[00:31] <georgy_28> taget3, : yes , something with hiddenmenu
[00:31] <Until_It_Sleeps> O_o
[00:31] <taget3> jack_sparrow, i would like it to be persistent
[00:31] <Ax4> lol @ Limmy
[00:32] <\Kira> Limmy: does that make you feel better?
[00:32] <dr_willis> 'Getting Help on IRC: FAIL!'
[00:32] <orudie> DasEI, what i'm trying to do is to install ubuntu 8.10 server within my windows 2k3 server with vmware
[00:32] <taget3> georgy_28, thanks
[00:32] <orudie> DasEI, so I do not need  Ubuntu Ultimate 1.4 Virtual Machine ?
[00:32] <Ax4> c'mon people! this is serious! no mp3s, no youtube, im dying here, audio is essential! what do i do?
[00:32] <georgy_28> taget3, : put a # before hiddenmenu
[00:33] <DasEI>  orudie:join #vmware, and there are pre-done vm's for at least hardy, if not ibex, I'll google
[00:33] <Decepticon> isnt there a way to use wifi without being asked for a password passphrase every time upon disconnection reconnection... its very annoying
[00:33] <paulo> #
[00:33] <paulo> #ubuntu-es
[00:34] <Guest70468> Can anyone give me some help with wireless ... no too sure what I am doing wrong and I'm not familiar with ubuntu's wireless tools
[00:34] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to add some custom 16:10 resolutions to X. Resolutions like 960x600 and 768x480. This was so easy to do in Hardy. It only took adding Display subsections to the Screen section. But in Intrepid, even with custom modelines, I can't get any custom resolutions! Can anyone help me?
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> Decepticon: yes...  sudo -i
[00:34] <joeb3_> \Kira, try the --no-p options to leave out the permissions.
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> !RootSudo
[00:34] <jrib> !x > [Tiz]
[00:35] <Ax4> !audio problems
[00:35] <Ax4> grrr
[00:35] <Ax4> useless bot
[00:35] <taget3> lol
[00:35] <Decepticon> onetinsoldier what are you talking about. im talking about on the gnome desktop, when there is a blip in the wifi, a reconnection to the wifi wants me to enter passwords all the time
[00:35] <jrib> !sound | Ax4
[00:35] <DasEI>  orudie:you might look yourself for other sites (or torrents!), german site : http://download.winboard.org/files.php?cat=89
[00:35] <Decepticon> onetinsoldier where would i be using sudo in that situation
[00:35] <Ax4> !audio was working before the update, now it's not
[00:35] <onetinsoldier> Decepticon: ok.. sorry
[00:35] <[TiZ]> Hmm. jrib, does X restart if you log out? Or does that not count? I added a bunch of modelines and then logged out and back in.
[00:36] <\Kira> joeb3_: no difference :( Does cp suffer from this problem?
[00:36] <joeb3_> \Kira, dont' know.  Give it a try.
[00:36] <austinyb> hi
[00:36] <austinyb> whats up
[00:36] <\Kira> joeb3_: its omitts directory home for some reason..... Im not very good with cp, any help?
[00:37] <sevenseeker> what package provides libintl.h?
[00:37] <mib_i7j7uz> hi - just to be clear, guided - Resize SCIS1 paritiion#1 and used free space WON'T delete anything, right?
[00:37]  * onetinsoldier thinks he needs to fully read problem before inserting foot into mouth
[00:37] <Ax4> gonna try to restart, that's what i'd do in windows lmfao
[00:37] <joeb3_>  \Kira found this.  replace "-av" with "-rltDv" for the rsync options.
[00:37] <Ax4> maybe that'll do the trick!
[00:38] <\Kira> joeb3_: I wasnt using the -av arguement. I was using -a, though. Any difference?
[00:38] <taget3> does anyone know how to get rid of all the chatter like when people disconnect and connect in Konversation ?
[00:38] <joeb3_> \Kira, no
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> taget3 find the option to hide parts and joins
[00:38] <mib_i7j7uz> hello?
[00:39] <taget3> jack_sparrow, thanks
[00:39] <exodus_ms> !hi
[00:39] <mib_i7j7uz> hi - just to be clear, guided - Resize SCIS1 paritiion#1 and used free space WON'T delete anything, right?
[00:39] <Until_It_Sleeps> Hello, mib_i7j7uz, and welcome to #ubuntu. Is there anything that we can do for you?
[00:39] <exodus_ms> mib_i7j7uz, > !patient
[00:39] <DasEI> !patience | mib_i7j7uz
[00:39] <\Kira> joeb3_: I think it worked.... Let me check. No errors though, but it was pretty fast
[00:39] <DasEI>  mib_i7j7uz : what else is on that parti ?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_i7j7uz there are always risks resizing partitions, backup anything you cant afford to lose and if a windows drive is resized, defrag it.. twice
[00:39] <Decepticon> how do i not EVER get asked for passwords
[00:40] <[TiZ]> But don't defrag with Windows defragger.
[00:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> Automatic login?
[00:40] <donavan01> does anyone know if I have to use WEP/WAP to get a wireless connection in Hardy
[00:40] <[TiZ]> Ubuntu 12.04 will be out by the time it finishes
[00:40] <Decepticon> i already have auto login
[00:40] <mib_i7j7uz> DasEI: indows xp
[00:40] <DasEI>  mib_i7j7uz : free space ?
[00:40]  * Until_It_Sleeps has his set for automatic login.
[00:40] <\Kira> joeb3_: it appear to have worked! Thanks a bunch :) I Think everything is there and intact
[00:40] <joeb3_> \Kira, the rsync was working before.  The errors are from trying to change ownership of the copied file, which fat32 does not recognize.
[00:40] <grendal_prime> god this is crazy flaky gvfs-fuse businitch...
[00:41] <taget3> donavan01, no
[00:41] <\Kira> joeb3_: I see :) Thanks again, saves my server alot of trouble when harddrives fail
[00:41] <mib_i7j7uz> DasEI: what do you mean, i am not using my entire hdd but the entire hdd is part of the windows partition
[00:41] <grendal_prime> i just want a tool where i can mount up a dir, to a local dir so i can use, quanta or whatever application i want to edit..but working with the .gvfs/whaterver is damn slow..and i keep haveing to work with this damn hidden dir...
[00:42] <grendal_prime> is there a front end to fuse that will let me keep several mounts stored so i can just select it..and mount it..the gnome thing blows.
[00:42] <DasEI>  mib_i7j7uz : ?
[00:42] <mib_i7j7uz> nvm
[00:42] <grendal_prime> gvfs...its just jankety
[00:42] <mib_i7j7uz> thanks for the helpeveryone
[00:42] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  you could just set up a few scripts that run the proper commands.
[00:43] <donavan01> taget3 ... thanks and idea how to check if my wifi drivers are actually installed ... I checked under the network settings  and its there and I enabled it  but I am getting nothing
[00:43] <grendal_prime> ya, but, i dont know a front end would really be nice...
[00:43] <grendal_prime> i find it amazing that there isnt one already...
[00:43] <shauno> Decepticon: if you don't want to get asked for passwords for administrative actions, there is a nopasswd flag for sudo .. google sudoers+nopasswd.  but be aware that it's *far* from best-practice, and entirely unadvisable in a multi-user environment
[00:43] <Decepticon> im talking about software updates and stupid passphrases for wifi
[00:44] <Mimi> hello. wasn't there a utility on ubuntu to make your laptop trackpad stop "working" when you type? I can't find it under "mouse" anymore
[00:44] <Mimi> Decepticon, you're talking about keyring asking you password for wifi everyboot?
[00:45] <grendal_prime> I wonder if i can just change where gvfs mounts all its mounts..hmmm
[00:45] <grendal_prime> ill dive into that now
[00:45] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  most people dont even resize the features fuse can do.      and yes i find gnomes remote dir stuff flakey also.
[00:45] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  you could see where it mounts and make a link from it to someplace easier to access I guess
[00:46] <grendal_prime> i really like the way kio slave does it...i mean im so use to that but i cant seem to get it working with a gnome desktop and kde mixed in there.
[00:46] <grendal_prime> dr_willis: ya, but then how the kde apps look at is bizzar if its a shortcut...grrrrr...
[00:46] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  latest release of gnome did a lot of changes in that area. a lot of those features dont work very well for me any more either. Gnome file manager here dosent even see most shares.
[00:46] <HVJoel> hey. I seem to have an issue with iostat, if I do 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null' and then 'iostat -m' it says it's reading with like 0.40MB/s (and it keeps on saying that according to watch), however, when dd ends, it states the overall speed has been 30 MB/s+ (VM, so pretty slow) does anyone know why this happens?
[00:47] <hajmola> is there a way you can customize a dvd menu in Brasero?
[00:47] <dr_willis> grendal_prime,  a 'soft link' to a mountpoint is not a shortcut. all apps should access thefiles fine with a link
[00:47] <grendal_prime> hmmmmm ya, i guess that would work out ok...hold on
[00:48] <grendal_prime> what is it ln -s exisingpath linkname
[00:48] <Decepticon> shauno i dont have a multi user environment, thats why i want to do this
[00:48] <grendal_prime> ive never figured out how to make links in gnome..
[00:48] <Decepticon> Mimi yes i think so
[00:48] <grendal_prime> thats the other thing about gnome that is so frustrating some things...very simple..others...should be but many they are round about
[00:49] <elgreek1984> anybody have a good solution for  nvidia 177 drivers crashing x.org?
[00:49] <hajmola> is there a way to customize your dvd menu in brasero?
[00:49] <Decepticon> how do i see what wifi networks are out there to connect to
[00:50] <eseven73> if i get an error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqtcore4" with installing a .deb does that mean libqtcore4 is just missing or is not good for ubuntu?
[00:51] <Chrisie> Decepticon: 'iwlist scan' from a terminal, or left click the nm-applet that displays signal strength etc.
[00:52] <Decepticon> how to tell if my wireless is working properly or not, im not really sure if its picking up my wlan out there or if its just malfunctiong
[00:52] <joeb3_> Decepticon, does iwconfig show your device?
[00:53] <nrook> after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10, ubuntu does not accept mouse or keyboard input on the login screen except ctrl+alt+del; I have run xfix, but it hasn't helped.  Anyone have any ideas?
[00:53] <joeb3_> Decepticon, or "dmesg | grep NETDEV" to see if it is detected at bootup.
[00:54] <Decepticon> [ 44.080728] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[00:54] <Decepticon> [ 122.413564] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[00:54] <Decepticon> whats that mean
[00:54] <hajmola> why is the "burn" button in the burn dialog of Brasero greyed out? I cna't burn it even though it says "this medium is recordable"
[00:55] <Decepticon> joeb3_, what does it mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/86668/
[00:55] <mon^rch> hajmola: why not try gnomebaker?
[00:55] <Decepticon> for sudo iwconfig
[00:55] <hajmola> mon^rch, gnomebaker... does it make dvd menus?
[00:55] <mon^rch> dunno
[00:56] <joeb3_> Decepticon, it means your device is recognized, but it has not associated with the access point.
[00:56] <Decepticon> when i do sudo iwlist scan, i dont see my wifi network
[00:56] <mon^rch> hajmola: I havent really used it to make dvd's with menus
[00:56] <DasEI> hajmola: I prefer k3b
[00:56] <Chrisie> eseven73: libqtcore4 should be available for install via Synaptic
[00:56] <Decepticon> all i see is 'free internet access' which im pretty sure is a nonexistant wifi network..
[00:57] <Decepticon> as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/86670/
[00:57] <eseven73> Chrisie: yeah i know but im not sure if its save to use since i got that error now
[00:57] <hajmola> DasEI, thanks for the info...but why won't brasero burn to dvd? Is it because I'm trying to burn .mov files?
[00:57] <mon^rch> hajmola: as stated k3b is also a good program
[00:57] <sebastian> anyone here using a eeepc?
[00:57] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: what is it you're trying to install?
[00:57] <dtcrshr> hi there! im using hardy 8.04. iv configured an pppoe connetcion on the graphic interface, but i check the box, and it got unchecked automatically
[00:58] <DasEI> hajmola: I have no clue, wrong medium ? disk opened / mounted by othe are prog ?
[00:58] <dtcrshr> how do i configure it right?
[00:58] <donavan01> Anyone know why I am getting my wireless to show up when I do a iwconfig but I cant seem to get it connected I  have the network completely open with now security and  I have entered the SSID in and set it to DHCP is there anything I can check
[00:58] <DasEI> dtcrshr: pc directly connected to modem ?
[00:59] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: Luckybackup its a KDE app
[00:59] <hajmola> DasEI, it does say "data dvd" could it be that
[00:59] <nrook> After upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10, ubuntu does not accept mouse or keyboard input on the login screen except ctrl+alt+del; I have tried xfix, but it hasn't helped.
[00:59] <dtcrshr> [DasEI]: yes
[00:59] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: roger
[00:59] <nrook> (Also, is reposting problems after a few minutes considered bad etiquette?)
[00:59] <Chrisie> eseven73: Qt4 including that module is in use here without and problem
[00:59] <DasEI> dtcrshr: open a terminal...
[00:59] <dtcrshr> gotta a 8 port planet switch, but its not intelligent
[00:59] <eseven73> ok ty Chrisie
[00:59] <DasEI> dtcrshr: have your userdata (name+pw) handy
[01:00] <Decepticon> do i even have my wifi card installed properly? how to tell besides using dmesg
[01:00] <DasEI> dtcrshr: sudo pppoeconf
[01:00] <dtcrshr> [DasEI]: check
[01:00] <eseven73> Chrisie: im on Xubuntu donno if that makes much difference, prolly not
[01:00] <DasEI> hajmola:sounds like dvd is not empty
[01:01] <hajmola> DasEI, it says it is though, and nautilus recognizes it as being empty
[01:01] <hajmola> DasEI, i'll just try k3b
[01:01] <DasEI> hajmola:sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: did you download this .deb manually?
[01:01] <hajmola> DasEI, got it, thanks
[01:02] <eseven73> yes onetinsoldier it was not in repos
[01:02] <taget3> donavan01, do you know what wireless card you are using ?
[01:02] <Decepticon> how to tell if my wifi card is installed properly or not....
[01:02] <hajmola> DasEI, I think it's because brasero can't handle .mov files
[01:02] <Decepticon> how to tell if my wifi card is installed properly or not.... lspci says "02:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI"
[01:03] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: first try "iwconfig" and see if it is listed.
[01:03] <Decepticon> but i dont know if that means everything is working or what that means
[01:03] <mon^rch> hajmola: if you are making a data dvd, it shouldn't matter what you put on it
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: you can see what it depends on if you do...  dpkg-deb -I <package.deb>  ...does that show what version of kdelibs it depends on?
[01:03] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: then try "iwlist scanning" and see if it can detect networks...
[01:03] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale the output of iwconfig is http://paste.ubuntu.com/86672/
[01:03] <hajmola> mon^rch, i'm not, i'm making a video dvd
[01:03] <donavan01> taget3... broadcom BCM4306
[01:03] <hajmola> mon^rch, hence the menu question
[01:03] <mon^rch> kk
[01:04] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale the output of iwlist scanning is http://paste.ubuntu.com/86674/
[01:04] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale iwlist scanning should show a bunch of nets, but it does not
[01:04] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: yep, it appears to be working...
[01:04] <DasEI> dtcrshr: have it ?
[01:04] <dtcrshr> nice, thanks!
[01:05] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale its not really working, because i cant see my wifi network or any others
[01:05] <nrook> quit *goes to check out the xorg config on the livecd*
[01:05] <nrook> er
[01:05] <Chrisie> hajmola: I can't comment on Brasero but I've used 'tovid' which I think is still in the repos to make Video DVD's from video captured with a dig camera
[01:05] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: perhaps your network is hidden?
[01:05] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale its definitely not
[01:05] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale in any case, theres MANY wifi networks in my area
[01:05] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale that the card should see upon scan
[01:06] <hajmola> Chrisie, thanks
[01:06] <eseven73> ok onetinsoldier thanks
[01:06] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: does the networkmanager applet show any more?
[01:06] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale no
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok, you're welcome. but i was hoping you'd answer my question. but no biggie
[01:06] <cobra-the-joker> can i search for packages in apt?...how to ?
[01:07] <jrib> !apt > cobra-the-joker
[01:07] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: oops sorry i didnt see that part of your sentence one sec :)
[01:07] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: hmm... i dunno what else you can do, beside get cloesr to your router...
[01:07] <Odd-rationale> (which you probably tried already)
[01:07] <Decepticon> what do i do
[01:07] <taget3> donavan01, have you looked in the supported hardware section try this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok.... np
[01:08] <cheese28> hey all
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: do you happen to know what drivers you are using?
[01:08] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale i do not remember, how can i look it up
[01:08] <raylu> "iwlist sc" doesn't li :D
[01:08] <raylu> *lie
[01:08] <donavan01> taget3... no I havent seen that one I will check it out
[01:08] <tuxwulf> Good morning
[01:08] <eseven73> Wow onetinsoldier that is a nice command ill have to rememeber that one , anyways hang on for the pastebin link its on my other computer
[01:08] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok, no hurries, no worries
[01:08] <Decepticon> !rt2561
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> donavan01: try "lspci -vv"
[01:09] <Decepticon> !rt61
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> donavan01: whoops soryy. notyou...
[01:09] <RyanPrior> The latest kernel update broke my sound. Can anybody help me reconfigure it?
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: try "lspci -vv"
[01:09] <raylu> RyanPrior: broke how? and are you sure it's the kernel?
[01:09] <MHz128> I am looking for some sort of macro software that i might be able to use to automatically unlock the keyring at bootup........ does such a thing exist?
[01:09] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale that shows http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/paste/lspci.log
[01:09] <raylu> MHz128: it's easier to just configure your keyring...
[01:09] <RyanPrior> raylu: My sound worked fine, then the kernel update finished and I restarted my computer - now I have no sound.
[01:09] <raylu> MHz128: you could make your private key unpassworded
[01:10] <hvgotcodes> how good is a NVIDIA Quadro FX 770M
[01:10] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale Kernel driver in use: rt61pci
[01:10] <raylu> RyanPrior: the old version of the kernel should still be in grub
[01:10] <RyanPrior> raylu: Well, almost no sound. I seem to have some system beeps.
[01:10] <raylu> RyanPrior: but those aren't produced by your sound card (usually)
[01:10] <MHz128> raylu, is it safe to leave the keyring unprotected?
[01:10] <RyanPrior> raylu: Correct.
[01:10] <raylu> MHz128: no, but it's not safe to automatically unlock it either
[01:10] <RyanPrior> raylu: I'd rather keep the new kernel, so long as I can get my sound working again.
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: well, the only other thing i can think of is to try another driver like ndiswrapper, just hope that it gives you better results...
[01:11] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale i remmeber being able to connect to my network earlier on, i did some software updats, and now its gone to shit
[01:11] <raylu> RyanPrior: using old kernels is something people do all the time
[01:11] <MHz128> raylu, how do I remove my password?
[01:11] <raylu> RyanPrior: debian's stable kernel is 2.6.26
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: oh, so it was working before?
[01:11] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale maybe some module needs to be restarted
[01:11] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale or some kernel module re installed after such a n update
[01:11] <raylu> MHz128: i'm not sure. i think it's gpg --edit-key
[01:11] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: have you rebooted already?
[01:11] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale tons of times
[01:11] <il5anto> hi all
[01:11] <LordDicranius> I've configured a ubuntu box to act as a router.  the internal NIC and the NIC on my internal computer are configured with static IP's (192.168.x.x).  I'm able to ping external/routable IP's, but I can't pull up any webpages on the internal computer.  Anybody have any idea why?
[01:12] <RyanPrior> raylu: Okay, but clearly there's a bug in the new kernel. I'd like to be able to submit a but report with more information than "it doesn't work now", and getting it working again could provide that information.
[01:12] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86682/
[01:12] <Chrisie> !sound
[01:12] <taget3> LordDicranius, no dns configured ?
[01:12] <RyanPrior> raylu: I think it's a good general policy to educate our users rather than teaching them to hack up their boxes, and here I am looking for information about a system of which I know nothing (sound).
[01:12] <raylu> RyanPrior: do you know what sound card/chipset/driver?
[01:13] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok, thanks. i'm looking it overnow
[01:13] <raylu> RyanPrior: but...hacking up boxes is more fun :D
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: well, man, i really dunno.  "iwlist scanning" gives what it gives...
[01:13] <MHz128> raylu, there is an actualy keyring file? where is it stored?
[01:13] <LordDicranius> taget3: I have DNS configured on both the router and the internal computer, using AT&T DNS servers.  I'm able to ping "google.com" from the router, but not the internal computer.
[01:13] <RyanPrior> raylu: Agreed, it can be a good time. :-)
[01:13] <il5anto> I have installed ndiswrapper and windows driver in ubuntu intrepid ibex but whe I click Network Settings in ndiswrapper I give error:"impossible find instrument for configuration"
[01:13] <il5anto> my ndiswrapper installation is not complete ?
[01:13] <RyanPrior> raylu: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[01:13] <raylu> MHz128: it's a bad bad idea to mess with it. but it's in ~/.gnupg
[01:13] <il5anto> miss ndiswrapper-utils ?
[01:13] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale am i correct in thinking like that? i remmeber than when i used to do kernel upgrade via apt-get, some crap would need to be re-instated, like my X driver for nvidia in light of the new kernel
[01:13] <joeb3_> Decepticon, does your AP have SSID broadcasting turned off?
[01:13] <taget3> LordDicranius, what type of router are you using ?
[01:14] <Decepticon> joeb3_ definitely does not have ssid broadcasting off
[01:14] <ivantis> eval: $_ = qhello
[01:14] <LordDicranius> taget3: Dell rack server with Ubuntu 8.04.1
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: could be true...
[01:15] <cheese28> Hey guys...how come when i select a theme on Emerald Themer nothing happens??
[01:15] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale do you know what one would need to do? do i need to reinstall install or restart or reinitiate some module or driver, the rt61 module some hmm???
[01:15] <taget3> LordDicranius, is your gateway forwarding your dns information ?
[01:15] <LordDicranius> taget3: I'm not sure, how would I check that?
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: i would not think so... rebooting already reloads the kernel module...
[01:15] <taget3> how do you open a private chat in konversation
[01:15] <LjL> taget3: /query nickname
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> taget3: /q user
[01:15] <eseven73> how do i disable ctcp messages in irssi?
[01:15] <sonofC4> #seaphor
[01:16] <sonofC4> #seaphor
[01:16] <RyanPrior> cheese28: It might be because Emerald Themer is deprecared.
[01:16] <RyanPrior> sonofC4: link spamming is not appreciated.
[01:17] <raylu> RyanPrior: hm, there seemt o be similar bug reports, but only for really old kernels
[01:17] <RyanPrior> cheese28: I'm really bad at spelling deprecated. =D
[01:17] <raylu> RyanPrior: what kernel version worked and which one was broken?
[01:17] <cheese28> RyanPrior: and what is deprecared
[01:17] <cheese28> lol
[01:17] <uber_noober> I'm thinking of upgrading to ibex from feisty. currently i use ndiswrapper, having disabled avahi daemon. is setting up wireless the same in Ibex thru ndiswrapper or do i have to disable the ssb module the same as in hardy
[01:17] <donavan01_> taget3... I checked the doc and was wondering if the newer version of ubuntu has this fixed I am on a fresh install on the machine and if I have to go with 8.10 its no big loss
[01:17] <RyanPrior> raylu: How do I get a list of all the kernels I have installed?
[01:17] <raylu> RyanPrior: aptitude search linux-image
[01:18] <raylu> RyanPrior: or ls /boot
[01:18] <RyanPrior> raylu: I'm currently using  2.6.24-23-generic
[01:18] <raylu> RyanPrior: oh...that's...really...old
[01:18] <eseven73> i dont think you can jump releases uber_noober
[01:18] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: hmmm, it looks to me as if there is a high enough version of libqtcore4 available to satisfy the dependency. not sure what to make of the message you get when you try to install it.
[01:18] <uber_noober> doing fresh install
[01:18] <cheese28> How would I undeprecate Emerald?
[01:18] <raylu> RyanPrior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/206631
[01:19] <Anacranom> does anyone know if you can take out the live cd once you're on the live desktop so you can burn a cd?
[01:19] <RyanPrior> raylu: It's the newest one in Hardy Heron...
[01:19] <raylu> RyanPrior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/302746
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: what do you get with  dpkg -l libqtcore4  ?
[01:19] <raylu> RyanPrior: heh. hardy is really old :P
[01:19] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: ok its fine anyways, someone in here said they run libqtcore4 with no probs , ty :)
[01:19] <raylu> RyanPrior: well, in my mind
[01:19] <joeb3_> RyanPrior, grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:19] <RyanPrior> raylu: I guess if you're a kernel person, then things move pretty quick.
[01:19] <RyanPrior> =D
[01:19] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ok, you're welcome
[01:20] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: 'no packages found matching libqtcore4'
[01:20] <Decepticon> i have a RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI wifi card with kernel driver/module in use: rt61pci .... it used to be able to find my network and connect to it and use the internet, but i did some upgrades via the software updates manager or what have you and now my wifi card cannot detect ANY wifi networks. please advise
[01:20] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: i was affraid to install it
[01:20] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: ahh, i see!
[01:21] <Odd-rationale> Anacranom: well, you would have to boot completely into ram...
[01:21] <Odd-rationale> Anacranom: and have enough ram to do that...
[01:21] <RyanPrior> 2.6.24-23 has busted sound, 2.6.24-22 works fine
[01:21] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: im on xubuntu
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> Anacranom: if you want a distro that can boot completely into ram, try DSL (Damn Small Linux) or Puppy Linux. I prefer Puppy...
[01:22] <Anacranom> Odd-rationale, so once you're on the live desktop,,, it is actually running off of the cd?   hrm...
[01:22] <Anacranom> cool Odd-rationale Thank you
[01:22] <Odd-rationale> Anacranom: yep. it is running off the cd.
[01:22] <raylu> Odd-rationale: the ubuntu livecd doesn't use ramfs?
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> eseven73: roger.. i don't there's there much difference between xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu, other than what window manager and desktop environment is installed by default. but perhaps i'm wrong in my thought about that.
[01:23] <eseven73> onetinsoldier: there really isnt much difference
[01:23] <raylu> onetinsoldier: the religious fanatics associated with each
[01:23] <Anacranom> my son is downloading xp iso from my ftp,from the live cd, but needs to butn that image to cd ...
[01:23] <onetinsoldier> raylu: rofl
[01:24] <eseven73> lol
[01:24] <bazz> why is snd-rtctimer missing for current kernel versions in intrepid?
[01:24] <Anacranom> Odd-rationale, so he can install xp first, then dual boot 8.04, i dont know how to do it the other way around
[01:25] <raylu> Anacranom: grub-install from the livecd
[01:26] <Anacranom> raylu, i know this sounds n00bish but ,,, um, expand a bit? like how?
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> raylu: either that or squashfs. but it does not boot completely into ram by default..
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> (sorry i just lost power there for a moment)
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> Anacranom: it is gennerally advised to install windows first. as ubuntu can detect it windows is instaled. windows doesnt...
[01:28] <onetinsoldier> Anacranom: i think you can make a boot floppy, or perhaps boot usb boot disk nowadays, to accomplish installing winxp second(since it overwrites the mbr). after winxp is installed, use the bootable floppy/stick to get back into linux... then run grup-update if you want grub installed to the mbr. what raylu said would work too
[01:28] <quoi> hi all
[01:28] <raylu> Anacranom: there's a guide somewhere for restoring the grub boot loader after installing windows
[01:28] <xirhur> hi
[01:28] <Chrisie> !grub
[01:28] <raylu> Odd-rationale: squashfs is the filesystem on the cd. i'm pretty sure it uses ramfs too
[01:29] <raylu> yeah, that one ^
[01:29] <raylu> Anacranom: if he has neither OS right now, install XP first, of course.
[01:29] <Anacranom> cool all, thanks Odd-rationale onetinsoldier raylu
[01:29] <Odd-rationale> raylu: ok. well, i beleive there is some grub kernel line option you can set to make it boot 100% into ram...
[01:30] <raylu> Odd-rationale: there is, but why would you want that?
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> that is, if you have enough ram.
[01:30] <Jordan_U> Odd-rationale: toram
[01:30] <Anacranom> raylu, he's downloading the .ISO XP from my ftp now,,, but has toget it to a cd
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> raylu: so you can take out the disc :D
[01:30] <raylu> Odd-rationale: i suppose...
[01:30] <raylu> Anacranom: what OS is he on?
[01:30] <Odd-rationale> raylu: that's what Anacranom was asking in the first place... whether he could take out the disc :)
[01:30] <Anacranom> live cd, no os, raylu
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> Anacranom: you're welcome... andi meant, a  usb boot memory stick   ...doh
[01:30] <raylu> Odd-rationale: oh
[01:31] <onats> hi everyone, my SATA hard drive can't be detected by ubuntu installation. what should be the workaround for this? thanks
[01:31] <quoi> i just installed Ubuntu 8.04 and when i log in my black screen shows "out of range"..i searched for a while in google and i found some suggestions for dpkg-reconfigure..i did it and i logged in normally..but i can;t have resolution bigger than 800x600
[01:31] <quoi> any help??
[01:31] <raylu> Anacranom: cdrecord http://sharkysoft.com/tutorials/linuxtips/cdcommands/
[01:32] <Decepticon> i have a RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI wifi card with kernel driver/module in use: rt61pci .... it used to be able to find my network and connect to it and use the internet, but i did some upgrades via the software updates manager or what have you and now my wifi card cannot detect ANY wifi networks. please advise
[01:32] <Anacranom> raylu, what am i looking for there?
[01:32] <raylu> Anacranom: "cdrecord -scanbus" will help
[01:33] <raylu> Anacranom: the burning cd part...
[01:33] <Odd-rationale> Decepticon: have you tried the forums? tier 2 level support there ... :)
[01:33] <vassler> How do I get my ubuntu 8.10 pc reconize my dvd drive so I can look at dvd movies (it is a cd-r/dvd-r x8 drive?) Anyone have any ideas?
[01:33] <exodus_ms> vassler, have you installed codecs
[01:34] <vassler> yesh.
[01:34] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale ok ill do that
[01:34] <exodus_ms> !mount | vassler
[01:34] <exodus_ms> vassler, no, have you monted the drive?
[01:34] <vassler> exodus_ms: well how do I do that?
[01:34] <joeb3_> vassler, install libdvdread, then run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[01:35] <joeb3_> vassler, sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[01:35] <quoi> ﻿i just installed Ubuntu 8.04 and when i log in my black screen shows "out of range"..i searched for a while in google and i found some suggestions for dpkg-reconfigure..i did it and i logged in normally..but i can't have resolution bigger than 800x600
[01:35] <Anacranom> raylu, maybe i'm missing it, but, if he takes out the live cd, he cant burn the iso, is that not true?
[01:35] <exodus_ms> vassler, sudo mount /media/cdrom0/  or where you wnat your drive to be
[01:35] <quoi> any help??
[01:36] <raylu> Anacranom: oh, that could be a problem...
[01:36] <vassler> libdvdread3 set to manually installed.
[01:36] <vassler> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:36] <raylu> Anacranom: you could use unetbootin to make it a liveusb
[01:36] <vassler> It said it's already installed.
[01:36] <joeb3_> quoi, does your video card/monitor support higher than 800x600
[01:37] <joeb3_> vassler, /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[01:37] <donavan01_> has anyone used cafuego to get updates?
[01:37] <scientes> how would i change my sound system to oss?
[01:37] <quoi> joeb3,yes..i had bigger resolution at ubuntu7.10
[01:37] <joeb3_> quoi, what type of video card?
[01:38] <Anacranom> raylu, thanks, i dont think he has those resources, i'll have him install 8.04, burn the iso, install xp, ans re-do the 8.04
[01:38] <quoi> joeb3,nvidia on board
[01:38] <vassler> godchaser007@ubuntu810-pc:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0/
[01:38] <vassler> mount: special device /dev/scd1 does not exist
[01:38] <irpapabear> hello all
[01:38] <joeb3_> quoi, did you load the restricted drivers?
[01:39] <cappicard> this is annoying. when i attempt to login, it kicks me right back out
[01:39] <cappicard> i'm on hardy.
[01:39] <raylu> cappicard: try moving your .gnome2 folder
[01:39] <cappicard> doesn't matter whether it's local login or via ssh
[01:39] <amshake> Hey there!!
[01:39] <cappicard> raylu: but it happens at the console.
[01:39] <exodus_ms> !fstab | vassler
[01:39] <cappicard> i can't log into text either
[01:40] <raylu> cappicard: make sure you own your home directory
[01:40] <cappicard> even root is doing it
[01:40] <raylu> cappicard: er...what?
[01:40] <quoi> joeb3,restricted drivers??i went to system->administration->hardware drivers and i install the driver for nvidia
[01:40] <amshake> got a quick question... I rebooted due to power flickers this weekend, and since, my top gnome panel is backwards... applications/places/system is on the right with the quick launches, and the time/tray/power button is on the right... how can I fix it?
[01:40] <quoi> joeb3,is that what u mean?
[01:41] <joeb3_> quoi, yes, and rebooted after?
[01:41] <irpapabear> cappicard  sudo -s not working
[01:41] <quoi> joeb3,yes
[01:41] <rww> amshake: right-click each item, uncheck the checkbox that stops you from moving it, and then right-click and hit Move
[01:41] <cappicard> irpapabear: i can't login via ssh, nor via the console, or via X
[01:41] <rww> amshake: that sort of thing happens to me occasionally even when i logout/in normally, and I don't know why....
[01:41] <raylu> cappicard: have you tried recovery/single-user mode?
[01:42] <cappicard> i can do single user mode just fine
[01:42] <sfuentes> how do hostnames work in a dhcp network?
[01:42] <cispu> bebella
[01:42] <quoi> ﻿joeb3, and then when i log in,i can hear only the sound of ubuntu..but no image
[01:42] <sfuentes> can't ping one of my machines with just the hostname
[01:42] <raylu> cappicard: ok, check that your user owns his home directory
[01:42] <cispu> c'e' qualcuno che puo' aiutarmi??
[01:43] <raylu> cappicard: what did you mean by "even root is doing it" then?
[01:43] <cappicard> hrmm... ok...
[01:43] <cappicard> at the console, i cannot log in as root either.
[01:43] <LjL> !it | cispu
[01:43] <joeb3_> quoi, turn off all visual effects
[01:43] <cappicard> (yes, I assigned my own password via sudo -s)
[01:44] <raylu> cappicard: oh. by console, you mean tty?
[01:44] <quoi> ﻿joeb3,i haven't any visual effects
[01:44] <cappicard> yes
[01:44] <joeb3_> quoi, does the resolution work if you use the live cd?
[01:45] <ehama> Hi. Need help with pidgin. I don't know the real reason but seems like my brother using another MSN account now makes the program freeze with the whole PC. Any way to fully uninstall it with my accounts?
[01:45] <cappicard> brb
[01:45] <cappicard> lost my mouse
[01:45] <quoi> ﻿﻿joeb3,i think yes..do you want to make it sure?
[01:45] <raylu> ehama: ls -A will show you the configuration files in your home directory
[01:46] <ehama> thanks raylu .
[01:46] <amshake> rww, thanks man
[01:46] <amshake> worked great!
[01:46] <joeb3_> quoi, there is some command that will let you reconfigure X.  I forgot what it is called.
[01:46] <raylu> joeb3_: he already ran it, i belive
[01:47] <raylu>  8:31:34        quoi> i just installed Ubuntu 8.04 and when i log in my black screen shows "out of range"..i searched for a while in google and i found some suggestions for
[01:47] <raylu>           dpkg-reconfigure..i did it and i logged in normally..but i can;t have resolution bigger than 800x600
[01:47] <orudie> how can i check what the dns server is set to ?
[01:47] <quoi> yes i have done it
[01:47] <joeb3_> orudie, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:48] <ehama> raylu, there doesn't seem to be any configuration files in my home directory related with pidgin.
[01:48] <joeb3_> quoi, ask the question again, maybe someone else has the answer.
[01:48] <rww> ehama: i think the pidgin one is .purple
[01:48] <quoi> ﻿﻿joeb3,ok thanks!!
[01:49] <dawmtop> ok so i just upgrade from 8.04 now my wireless doesnt work/show up. its supported OOB, intel 2915abg card  anyideas?
[01:49] <raylu> ehama: .purple
[01:49] <raylu> oops.
[01:49] <raylu> dawmtop: iwconfig?
[01:49] <ehama> raylu, yes that's it. Thanks again.
[01:49] <quoi> ﻿ ﻿i just installed Ubuntu 8.04 and when i log in my black screen shows "out of range"..i searched for a while in google and i found some suggestions for dpkg-reconfigure..i did it and i logged in normally..but i can't have resolution bigger than 800x600..any help??
[01:50] <orudie> joeb3_, what about gateway ?
[01:50] <dawmtop> shows up as radio:off
[01:50] <joeb3_> orudie, ip route show or netstat -rn
[01:50] <Jordan_U> quoi: Can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:53] <quoi> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/d7396bcbb
[01:54] <idejmcd> i just set up a dual boot with a third drive for storage but i cannot see the storage partition.  any thoughts?
[01:54] <raylu> idejmcd: sudo fdisk -l
[01:54] <Wicked> hmm i disabled pulseaudio under pref>sessions...but it still starts when i log into gnome...how can i stop this?
[01:55] <mrwes> hrmmm....
[01:55] <irpapabear> ide have you mounted the partition?
[01:55] <onetinsoldier> quoi: i might know how to fix that, but i'll just let Jordan_U talk for now
[01:56] <idejmcd> raylu:    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:56] <idejmcd> /dev/sda1   *           1        2432    19535008+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:56] <idejmcd> /dev/sda2            4865        9729    39078112+   5  Extended
[01:56] <idejmcd> /dev/sda3            2433        4864    19535040   83  Linux
[01:56] <idejmcd> /dev/sda5            9608        9729      979965   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:56] <FloodBot1> idejmcd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <idejmcd> /dev/sda6            4865        9606    38090052    b  W95 FAT32
[01:56] <Jordan_U> onetinsoldier: Help him, I'm a bit pre-occupied right now anyway :)
[01:56] <onetinsoldier> Jordan_U: ok, roger
[01:56] <idejmcd> irpapabear: how can i do this?
[01:56] <quoi> onetinsoldier ??
[01:57] <idejmcd> and what should i mount it to?
[01:57] <dtcrshr> i got a fresh install of ubuntu hardy. iv configured my pppoe through pppoeconf, but the connection is droping. i use pon dsl-provider, but dont work
[01:57] <raylu> idejmcd: i'm guessing the fat32 partition is the share? you really didn't need to do that
[01:57] <visbits-lin64> fuck ubuntu
[01:57] <mrwes> hrmmm
[01:57] <Melik> hi everyone
[01:58] <mrwes> hey Melik
[01:58] <onetinsoldier> quoi: hello... you will need to take a several steps. you will need to take notes
[01:58] <mrwes> saw that one coming!
[01:58] <awsoonn_> I am trying to install grub again but when I do 'setup (hd0)' I get an "error 12 invalid device requested" help. :)
[01:58] <irpapabear> i donna see a fat 32 ray
[01:58] <quoi> onetinsoldier,ok
[01:59] <raylu> awsoonn_: look at /boot/grub/devices.map
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok.. forst i need to see results of:  cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[01:59] <onetinsoldier> first*
[01:59] <raylu> irpapabear: his sda6?
[01:59] <awsoonn_> raylu: and what might I notice in there?
[02:00] <raylu> awsoonn_: the device that maps to hd0
[02:00] <irpapabear> sorry miss that thru the room change
[02:00] <quoi> onetinsoldier, /usr/sbin/gdm
[02:00] <raylu> awsoonn_: by the way, i think grub-install is easier than using the grub shell
[02:00] <raylu> irpapabear: oh.
[02:00] <raylu>  8:56:21     idejmcd> /dev/sda6            4865        9606    38090052    b  W95 FAT32
[02:00] <idejmcd> raylu: i preferred to do it that wat
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd having a fat32 for sharing is fine
[02:01] <raylu> idejmcd: well, the easiest way for now is to click on your places menu and find the drive
[02:01] <mrwes> Jack_Sparrow: isn't there a 4gb file size barrier with that?
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mrwes YEp, but seldom is an issue
[02:02] <mrwes> k
[02:02] <awsoonn_> raylu: I'm up to igve it a try, Iv just always done it this ol' fashoned way I guess... how can I use grub-install
[02:02] <mrwes> Jack_Sparrow: Unless you have a lot of HDTV avi's :)
[02:02] <raylu> awsoonn_: grub-install --help
[02:02] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok... you will be leaving x-windows to do this. 1) log out  2) press Ctrl+Alt+F1  3) log into console  4) sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[02:03] <Josesordo> hello, I Have a question
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> mrwes Everyone has their own needs.  I dont have any files over 4gig
[02:03] <onetinsoldier> quoi: let me know when you have got that all down.. don't do it yet! just let me know when you have that down
[02:03] <Josesordo> I got a HDD of 80GB, but have 3 partition, and now I want to format all disk in ubuntu, how do that?
[02:03] <mrwes> Jack_Sparrow: he's dual booting?
[02:03] <raylu> Jack_Sparrow: even then, you've needlessly created a 4th partition. if either your share or one of your installs runs out, you can blame your disk setup :D
[02:04] <raylu> Josesordo: gparted
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> mrwes I would assume he is
[02:04] <ehama> Josesordo, install qtparted and after that it's pretty easy
[02:04] <raylu> ehama: we're in #ubuntu here :D
[02:04] <Josesordo> sudo apt-get gparted??
[02:04] <raylu> Josesordo: *install, yes
[02:04] <ehama> raylu, ups okay =)
[02:04] <mrwes> apt-get install
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> raylu just your opinion.  drive space is not the premium it once was
[02:04] <quoi> onetinsoldier,i wrote them
[02:04] <raylu> Jack_Sparrow: it still is for me :P
[02:04] <Josesordo> :O I forgot that program..hehehe..ty!!
[02:04] <awsoonn_> raylu: I read it again, but 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda5' give me an error :(
[02:05] <irpapabear> even if the partition is fat32...it still has to me mounted yes?
[02:05] <raylu> awsoonn_: take off the 5
[02:05] <irpapabear> be*
[02:05] <awsoonn_> raylu: same error
[02:05] <raylu> awsoonn_: paste(bin) the error
[02:05] <raylu> irpapabear: yep
[02:05] <Decepticon> whats the easiest way to get wifi to work? installing native linux drivers vs ndiswrapper+windows drivers vs what other method?
[02:05] <idejmcd> raylu: mounted to what?
[02:06] <idejmcd> raylu /dos or /windows?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought the format for grub was ... install (HD0)
[02:06] <mrwes> Decepticon: what version of Ubuntu?
[02:06] <Decepticon> 8.10
[02:06] <awsoonn_> raylu:  I don;t have X right now, would you mind if I type the sinle error?
[02:06] <cappicard> ok... i'm getting ticked off... i ran chown user on root and my user.
[02:06] <nbeebo> any program to bind any command to a keyboard button?? i cant bind
[02:06] <mrwes> Decepticon: did you check System | Admin | Hardware Drivers?
[02:06] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok, good.  5) sudo Xorg -configure  6) sudo cp -v /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  7) sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start  ...this will most likely work, but no guarantee it will
[02:06] <nbeebo> i cant do that in gnome*
[02:06] <raylu> idejmcd: um...what?
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[02:07] <raylu> awsoonn_: type the single error? um...sure
[02:07] <cappicard> i still get kicked out when i try logging in
[02:07] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:07] <idejmcd> raylu: i have a partition that is unmounted, i want to use it for storage.  how can i access it in ubuntu and windows at will?
[02:07] <Decepticon> mrwes, that dialog box only shows some nvidia stuff... not any wifi stuff
[02:08] <mrwes> Decepticon: which card do you have?
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd create mount point and add an entry to /etc/fstab
[02:08] <raylu> idejmcd: make a directory in /media. mount /dev/sd* /media/*
[02:08] <Decepticon> mrwes 02:0a.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[02:08] <raylu> idejmcd: replacing *. or, Jack_Sparrow's way, and mount -a
[02:08] <awsoonn_> raylu:  could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device
[02:08] <adomas> does anyone use Baltix?
[02:08] <adomas> Ubuntu distribution
[02:08] <raylu> awsoonn_: are you on a livecd?
[02:08] <adomas> Ubuntu based :)
[02:08] <awsoonn_> raylu: yup
[02:08] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:08] <raylu> awsoonn_: mount your ubuntu installation and set the --root-directory to /boot on your ubuntu install
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !mint > adomas
[02:09] <Decepticon> mrwes it used to work before, i could find my wlan and connect to it and use internet. now i did some software upgrades and it cannot find any wlans besides "free internet access" whcih i think is fake and doesnt exist in reality
[02:09] <harushimo> whats an ubuntu based distrubtion
[02:09] <camerongroom> does anyone know a good program to edit flv files other than flash? Also that is smaller in size?
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> quoi: that's it.
[02:09] <adomas> if someone needs professional debian based support (incl. ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, baltix) please PM me, I have spare time to help
[02:09] <awsoonn_> raylu: XP toatsted this system's bootloader as usual. :)
[02:09] <WhiteStarEOF> Has anyone run through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication  ?
[02:09] <quoi> onetinsoldier,ok i will try and i will let you know..thank you
[02:09] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok... good luck
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> adomas We try to keep question in the channel ,  it is safer for users...
[02:10] <diff> anyone alright is I ask a very noob question?  If someone would rather private message me that would be fine... :)
[02:10] <irpapabear> and we can all learn
[02:10] <nickrud> adomas, plus we get to learn as well ;)
[02:10] <Crewsr3> I have a laptop with a wireless connection to my router, I would like to bridge it the computer next to me, is there an easy way to do it in network manager?
[02:10] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:10] <raylu> !ask | diff
[02:10] <idejmcd> raylu: only root can do that (referring to attempting to mount to the media
[02:10] <diff> alright now i feel worse
[02:10] <donavan01_> I need a wifi card for my desktop what works right out of the box with 8.04 ... linksys, netgear, dlink ?
[02:10] <ehama> Anyone know the usage of dd command within windows to restore the mbr after windows reinstallation over linux?
[02:11] <raylu> idejmcd: sudo
[02:11] <diff> if I have a script, how do i run it from the command line
[02:11] <raylu> diff: if it's executable, ./file.sh. or sh file.sh
[02:11] <ehama> donavan01_, I have a linksys wpc54g and have sometimes connection issues. But it works well.
[02:11] <diff> thanks, ill give that a try
[02:11] <raylu> diff: "chmod +x file.sh" will make it executable, though "sh file.sh" doesn't need that
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd sudo mkdir /media/blah-drive then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/blah-drive substitute your drive for sda1             is a manual mount
[02:12] <donavan01_> thanks ehama
[02:12] <adomas> why safer? what can be done wrong?
[02:12] <adomas> I like to chat individually with person who has a problem
[02:12] <diff> sweet, the sh file.sh worked!
[02:12] <Cainus> anyone know how to get a synergy client running in ubuntu?  mine keeps crapping out with "No protocol Specified"
[02:12] <raylu> adomas: you could make them do something dangerous
[02:12] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> adomas Understood, but we like to make sure users are getting good advice.  Once we know a person, we have no issue with them going pm
[02:13] <irpapabear> donavan  fdisk /mbr
[02:13] <adomas> well I not that kind of person, I am developer of Baltix GNU/Linux
[02:13] <adomas> and I'm interested what problems are common
[02:13] <raylu> adomas: and i'm linus torvalds
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> adomas Easy enough to review the channel logs
[02:13] <adomas> :)
[02:14] <Crewsr3> I have a laptop with a wireless connection to my router, I would like to bridge it the computer next to me, is there an easy way to do it in network manager?
[02:14] <adomas> you dont believe me?
[02:14] <maccam-sager> i have a really weird networking issue. dns lookups don't work. except for some reason i can reach google.com and that's it.
[02:14] <adomas> lol visit baltix.akl.lt
[02:14] <onetinsoldier> hi.. richard m stallman here
[02:14] <maccam-sager> any ideas?
[02:14] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:14] <adomas> it is Ubuntu for Baltic countries
[02:14] <irpapabear> raylu   he ya linus LD
[02:14] <adomas> if you Linus Torvalds we are planning to invite you to Lithuania lol
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[02:14] <adomas> today I had a conversation about this idea
[02:14] <mib_co4f> hi
[02:15] <adomas> ok sorry
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:15] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:15] <dapi> someone please help... i have problem with Nvidia GeForce 9500m GS... 3d work good but 2d slow.. (firefox slow scrolling)...
[02:15] <adomas> just not used to IRC
[02:15] <adomas> I used it many years ago
[02:15] <mib_co4f> there is no Terminal in my Applications -> Accessories list. can someone please help me
[02:15] <adomas> alt plus f2 write gnome-terminal
[02:15] <Anacranom> raylu, i mean linus! i've missed you! This is Billy, i could use some help...
[02:15] <dano__> hey all I have a question, and I can't think of a clear way to word it so I will explain.. any help would be appreciated.
[02:15] <dano__> Hey all, I have an external monitor, and running hardy heron, whenever i look at my resolution it says I have cloned screens, and if i uncheck it it shows 2 screens, laptop, and unknown.  I have 2 work spaces setup, but for the life of me I can not figure out how to have workspace 2 be for the external monitor, and workspace one be the laptop.  after i make the change to not clone screens and apply it, then go back into the resolution setting
[02:15] <dano__> s again it says its cloned... any ideas
[02:15] <onetinsoldier> mib_co4f: create a launcher.. you know how?
[02:15] <FloodBot1> dano__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:16] <irpapabear> lol anacranom
[02:16]  * raylu afk
[02:16] <dapi> someone please help... i have problem with Nvidia GeForce 9500m GS... 3d work good but 2d slow.. (firefox slow scrolling)...
[02:16] <racerx> does anyone know if nautilus can save all the favorite open tabs each time it is loaded or start up?
[02:16] <mib_co4f> thanks cnetinsoldier
[02:16] <Anacranom> sorry, i know, but couldn't help myself
[02:16] <maccam-sager> dapi: do you have the nvidia restricted driver installed?
[02:16] <joeb3_> dapi, do you have all the visual effects turned on?
[02:16] <onetinsoldier> mib_co4f: sure..  make it for  /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[02:16] <cappicard> there... got it fixed
[02:17] <dapi> joeb3, maccam-sager ... yes i try all drivers =(
[02:17] <cappicard> had to run pam-auth-update
[02:17] <dapi> joeb3, maccam-sager ... yes i try all drivers =( 173,177,180
[02:17] <maccam-sager> dapi: 180 is in the repositories?
[02:17] <mib_co4f> thanks again cnet! I got it. stranhge how it wasn't there thoug
[02:17] <joeb3_> dapi, try the recommended driver and turn off some of the effects.
[02:17] <racerx> can nautilus save the tabs that are open so that it is loaded the next time
[02:18] <dapi> maccam-sager, no i got it from nvidia ftp
[02:18] <Crewsr3> can someone help me bridge my wireless network connect with my wired as to share my wireless connection
[02:18] <mrwes> Decepticon: did you have the card working with nsidwrapper before?
[02:18] <onetinsoldier> mib_co4f: i am curious.. who is cnet?
[02:18] <dapi> joeb3, i do all but no different (( slow only 2d
[02:18] <maccam-sager> dapi: how did you install the other drivers?
[02:18] <mib_co4f> also does anyone know how to edit the contrast of the screen ?
[02:19] <mib_co4f> lol onetinsoldier i meant you
[02:19] <onetinsoldier> mib_co4f: ahh, ok... hey. you're welcome! :-)
[02:19] <dapi> maccam-sager, 173,177 - from menu.. 180 i install just run .RUN file
[02:20] <diff> anyone here use openwrt legend on the fonera router?  I'm only asking this in this forum because the fonera channel is basically empty.  I would like to just talk with someone...let me know :) stay sober!
[02:20] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Windows Vista box is not seeing my Ubuntu Samba Fileserver - it used to. (befor i did a vista reinstall) workgroups are the same..   I can manually enter the \\fileserver\sharename  and access the device..    what else should i be checking?
[02:21] <diff> ;)
[02:21] <maccam-sager> dapi: did you reboot after installing each driver? did you uninstall the drivers from the repository before installing 180?
[02:21] <Decepticon> mrwes i had it working on fresh install 8.10
[02:21] <dano__> Hey all, my external monitor is cloned to my laptop screen, and I want to make it a split screen so i can watch movies on one, and work on the other, can anyone help, what info is needed from me to resolve this
[02:21] <mrwes> Decepticon: out of the box? or with nsdiswrapper?
[02:22] <Decepticon> mrwes out of hte box i believe
[02:22] <dapi> maccam-sager, yes.. before i uninstall all "nvidia-...." packages in synaptic..
[02:22] <vereal`> a friend o mine is sell a PC  that has  pentium D e2180 (2GHZ), 2GB PC 5400 RAM, Geforce 8600 GT for $370 and i am wondering if such a system would be good for da desktop and application server (java glassfish and postgresql) on Ubuntu 64 bit ?
[02:22] <Awsoonn> http://pastebin.com/dc82bd19 that is the grub error
[02:22] <shadowwulf> i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok does not work ... any fixes ????
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> !does not work
[02:23] <quoi> onetinsoldier, it didn't work..:(
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ahh, darn
[02:23] <NelsonMedina> Hello there
[02:23] <diff> hi ;)
[02:23] <onetinsoldier> quoi: you have the xorg drivers installed?
[02:24] <Jack_Sparrow> vereal` Yes, but I would still use 32bit
[02:24] <mib_co4f> can someone help i am double clicking a .deb file andg  i see the little moust circle thing that ig ndicated loading, and nothing happens after that also every few seconds my mouse clicks even when i don't touch the mouse  and this only happens in ubuntu
[02:25] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_co4f NOt a deb from debian repos I hope
[02:25] <mib_co4f> no no
[02:25] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, at the order cp -v /root... threw an error:cp :cannot stat 'root/xorg.conf.new'   and i wrote cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /root/xorg.conf.new
[02:25] <vereal`>  Jack_Sparrow:ok
[02:25] <mib_co4f> i am trying to install http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2008/09/run-google-chrome-under-linux.html
[02:26] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok, that's why it didn't work
[02:26] <shadowwulf> i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  es not work ... any fixes ????
[02:26] <shadowwulf> i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:26] <Awsoonn> This one here is from grub-install http://pastebin.com/m68c1147c
[02:26] <onetinsoldier> quoi: when you run the command   Xorg -configure   it needs to be able to write a file in the root users home directory
[02:27] <raylu> Awsoonn: again, take off the 5
[02:27] <dmulholland> what command do I use to append a line of text to a file? I want to make the last line of file sample.txt  "this is the last line"
[02:27] <raylu> Awsoonn: and set --root-directory to your ubuntu's /boot
[02:27] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, but it doesn't..?
[02:27] <raylu> dmulholland: echo "this is the last line" >> sample.txt
[02:27] <onetinsoldier> quoi: correct
[02:27] <dmulholland> thanks raylu
[02:27] <mib_co4f> also does anyone know how to fix this error: cxbottle:warning: The current character encoding (UTF-8) may not be compatible with the encoding of the bottle (ISO-8859-1). This may cause applications to not find their files and thus lead to malfunctions.
[02:28] <raylu> mib_co4f: need more information. what caused that error?
[02:28] <onetinsoldier> quoi: i recommend you try it again. but this time, after you leave x-windows and get to the console.. do   sudo -i  ...and then just run all the commands without preceding them with 'sudo', understand that?
[02:28] <mib_co4f> raylu: i am trying to extract a ,deb
[02:29] <Awsoonn> raylu: removing the 5 has teh same error, and for the --root-directory option: do you mean to mount the ubuntu partition someplace and point to the boot folder? ex. --root-directory=/mnt/buntu/boot
[02:29] <raylu> Awsoonn: yes.
[02:29] <mib_co4f> raylu: the download is from http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2008/09/run-google-chrome-under-linux.html
[02:29] <mib_co4f> i am trying to extract it
[02:29] <shadowwulf> i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:30] <exodus_ms> mib_co4f, do you have wine or crossover installed?
[02:30] <mib_co4f> no exodus_ms
[02:30] <mib_co4f> i guess i need to install it
[02:30] <slashus2> I think I have either found a bug in netbeans or openjdk.  I am using the openjdk that comes with Ubuntu 8.10.  The bug is produced while using netbeans 6.5 and creating a sample desktop application.  If you open the about dialog in the created application, and hit the x at the top right it produces http://pastebin.com/m5710c1f4 error.  The netbeans sample application works perfectly with sun's java, but not so much with openjdk.  Co
[02:30] <slashus2> uld someone confirm this bug by reproducing it?
[02:30] <quoi> onetinsoldier,1) log out  2) press Ctrl+Alt+F1  3) log into console 4)sudo -i  and then all the other commands without sudo..is tha right?
[02:30] <raylu> exodus_ms: i don't think you need either of those
[02:30] <mib_co4f> also how can i change the screen contrast and set my computer to sleep after 20 mins of inactivity? exodus_ms
[02:30] <onetinsoldier> quoi: yes, correct. and before you go i have a question for you
[02:30] <j0shk1m> Hi, I have a problem....
[02:31] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, listen
[02:31] <exodus_ms> raylu, sure, but I have seen where wine will give that error under certain situations, didnt know he was trying to install a .deb :)
[02:32] <chadeldridge> Can someone help me  ... my network card says its connected at 100mb in network-manager, but in shell it says its 1000mb .. although sppeds are really slow around 80mb so i assume something is wrong.
[02:32] <onetinsoldier> quoi: you said you copied the xorg file like so...  cp -v /etc/X11/xorg.conf /root/xorg.conf.new   ...that worked ok? no error? if so, remove the /root/xorg.conf.new file before you begin
[02:32] <Awsoonn> raylu: http://pastebin.com/m5e42f1c7 <- :/
[02:33] <raylu> Awsoonn: oops, take off the /boot
[02:33] <quoi> onetinsoldier, yes without error..so i have to rm the /root/xorg.conf.new??
[02:33] <onetinsoldier> quoi: if that copy command worked ok with no error that's fine, that's good. but just remove it
[02:33] <shadowwulf> i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_co4f   sudo dpkg -i filename.deb             and look for an error
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> quoi: yes.. just to be sure when the 'new' one is written there's no doubt
[02:34] <raylu> shadowwulf: killall artsd
[02:34] <quoi> ok
[02:34] <idejmcd1> jack_sparrow: i followed those stps you told me to and am not sure if it worked
[02:34] <Home_Desktop> Hello all
[02:34] <Weems> what is wrong with this ftab line? /dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-fuse auto,gid=7,umask=0002 0 0
[02:34] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok, good luck. i'll be here
[02:34] <j0shk1m> My computer is stuffed up bigtime, it doesn't recognise some keyboards and mouses, the windows don't show up in the task bar, it tries to shut itself down every few minutes with a ""Windows must now restart becuase the Remote Procedurer Call (RPC) sevice terminated unexpectedly" error. I tried to reformat and reinstall windows. It boots well then after it stops loading files it has "Starting...
[02:34] <taget3> hi
[02:34] <j0shk1m> ...windows" at the bottom then I get a BSoD. which says "PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA" caused by setupdd.sys. Any help?
[02:34] <shadowwulf> raylu, no processes killed
[02:34] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 THe steps I gave were for single manual mount, did you add it to fstab as well
[02:35] <Awsoonn> raylu: http://pastebin.com/d2ab12d78
[02:35] <n8tuser> Weems-> i dont think the file system is   ntfs-fuse
[02:35] <idejmcd1> no, don't know what that means
[02:35] <DasEI>  j0shk1m:join #win
[02:35] <idejmcd1> jack_sparrow: am very new to this process
[02:35] <shadowwulf> raylu,  the sound issue started when i just updated ...
[02:35] <j0shk1m> ok
[02:35] <DasEI>  j0shk1m:join #windows, sorry
[02:35] <Home_Desktop> I am having a bit of a problem intalling 8.10
[02:35] <j0shk1m> o
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 did you make a mount point in /media  and what did you call it
[02:36] <Wicked> how can i make it so when i right click zip,tar,rar... it will offer to extract here,exctract to subfolder, or extract to some other place?
[02:36] <idejmcd1> yes, Storage Partition
[02:36] <raylu> Awsoonn: um...this sounds like grub wasn't configured properly
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 no spaces please...
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 add _  if you want to do that
[02:36] <raylu> Awsoonn: *installed on your hard drive. what's in /mnt/buntu/boot?
[02:37] <badtexasz28> I made an ISO disk and verified it to be a good copy and tried installing it on another machine... it gets to the 7 steps to set up Ubuntu then just goes to a black screen
[02:37] <scientes> why does my curses terminal in ubuntu look all funky, i installed via chrot and am using via nfs in vmware
[02:37] <DasEI> Wicked: try sudom apt-get install p7zip-full
[02:37] <DasEI> Wicked: try sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 please also pastebin your /etc/fstab  (not in the channel) thanks
[02:38] <idejmcd1> Jack_sparrow, i seem to have created the directory incorrectly, how do i create a directroy?
[02:38] <scientes> can i enter the installer to set locale stuff or something?
[02:38] <magikid> What is a reasonable limit for ulimit?
[02:38] <badtexasz28> After I select the language version
[02:38] <Wicked> DasEI, ok ill try that thanks
[02:38] <mib1> hi does anyone know how to change the screen contrast in ubuntu i was in here a few mins ago
[02:38] <shadowwulf> raylu,  any ideas ?
[02:38] <evilfix> can someone recommend a site that lets you host videos at least 750mb?
[02:38] <Awsoonn> raylu:  http://pastebin.com/d67e4e8f0
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd sudo mkdir /media/Storage_Partition
[02:38] <raylu> shadowwulf: m... "pgrep -l xmms"
[02:39] <raylu> shadowwulf: sorry, xine
[02:39] <grobda24> I just installed Kubuntu from within Ubuntu by following a page. I get the KDE login but Gnome is still the Window Manager. Here's the page -  https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=installing+kubuntu
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 shift ctrl V will paste that into a terminal
[02:39] <Wicked> DasEI, hmm. that didnt add the options of where i want to extract it
[02:39] <berilio> did anyone tried gnome voice control?
[02:39] <evasexy> hi
[02:39] <shadowwulf> raylu, what should i see
[02:39] <raylu> Awsoonn: boot is a symlink right? i think you can remove it
[02:40] <badtexasz28> Anyone know how to help me?
[02:40] <raylu> shadowwulf: anything at all
[02:40] <Awsoonn> raylu: yup
[02:40] <shadowwulf> raylu, nothing
[02:40] <raylu> Awsoonn: and ...why is stage1 missing...
[02:40] <raylu> shadowwulf: then i'm out of ideas
[02:40] <mib1> hi does anyone know how to change the screen contrast in ubuntu i was in here a few mins ago also come my update manager won't load when i click on the sun icon?
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> badtexasz28 It is a disk you made or you burned a ubuntu disk..
[02:40] <shadowwulf> can anybody help me here ? i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:40] <n0greenfx> hey all i just download kde how do i restart into kde??
[02:41] <Awsoonn> raylu: indeed a good qurestion, i think the grub error is some sort of hint though.
[02:41] <shadowwulf> raylu,  thanks for the help
[02:41] <badtexasz28> I made the disk
[02:41] <evasexy> pls help me about ubuntu error "cpu frequency scalling unsupported
[02:41] <taget3> grobda24, select session type at the login screen and change to kde
[02:41] <raylu> Awsoonn: as far as i can tell, it means grub wasn't really installed...
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> badtexasz28 You can see our help page on remastering, but this channel is for Ubuntu support
[02:41] <joeb3_> n0greenfx, at the login screen, change the session type
[02:41] <mib1> hello? onetinsoldier
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> mib1: hi
[02:42] <mib1> hey
[02:42] <badtexasz28> That is what I was asking for
[02:42] <Awsoonn> raylu: installed being the boot loader itself in the MBR or installed as in the files in /boot?
[02:42] <mib1> onetinsoldier: hi does anyone know how to change the screen contrast in ubuntu i was in here a few mins ago also come my update manager won't load when i click on the sun icon?
[02:42] <raylu> Awsoonn: you can try "mount -t proc /mnt/buntu/proc", "chroot /mnt/buntu /bin/bash" "dpkg-reconfigure grub"
[02:42] <raylu> Awsoonn: files in /boot
[02:42] <onetinsoldier> mib1: i don't know.. sorry
[02:42] <mib1> oh np
[02:42] <grobda24> taget3, thanks :) I'm not familiar with KDE login. Works now.
[02:42] <mib1> thanks anyway
[02:42] <mib1> can anyone help me/.'
[02:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !remaster
[02:42] <n0greenfx> joeb3: that remides mewell when i try to log into gnome it tells me my login only last 10seconds i can only login under failsafe
[02:43] <calamari> hi
[02:43] <garviz> hi
[02:43] <mib1> hi does anyone know how to change the screen contrast in ubuntu i was in here a few mins ago also come my update manager won't load when i click on the sun icon?
[02:43] <garviz> can sb help me?
[02:43] <n0greenfx> any idea what that means?/
[02:43] <taget3> grobda24, np :)
[02:43] <calamari> I am wondering what url do I use for the "main" feisty repository?
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari It is gone
[02:43] <garviz> I need a hids for my ubuntu desktop
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[02:44] <garviz> and I don't know what sw use
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari Please upgrade to a supported version
[02:44] <ddfire> please help, i dont know what i did but now my left and rigth control are exchanged how i restore it?
[02:44] <keithclark> ok fanboys justify the half hour it takes to boot Linux exery 22 times because it has to check my hard drive.  I never had to do that with Windows
[02:44] <idejmcd1> jack_sparrow: mount point /mnt/media/Storage_Partition does not exist
[02:44] <dmulholland> thanks raylu
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd1 That is not what I suggested.. lose /mnt
[02:45] <CaptainMorgan> can't find my printers... System > Prefs or Admin doesn't have Printing/Printers option.. ugh - where did it go?
[02:45] <joeb3_> n0greenfx, login to failsafe and ...  sudo chown -r username.username /home/username
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd sudo mkdir /media/Storage_Partition
[02:45] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow, what?  isn't that only down by a couple versions?
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !feisty
[02:45] <calamari> jesus
[02:45] <joeb3_> n0greenfx, replace username with yours
[02:45] <jamie_> hi
[02:46] <ddfire> please help, i dont know what i did but now my left and rigth control are exchanged how i restore it?
[02:46] <mib1> hello
[02:46] <mib1> hi does anyone know how to change the screen contrast in ubuntu i was in here a few mins ago also come my update manager won't load when i click on the sun icon?
[02:46] <varon> Hallo! kann man irgendwie dass was cat x.txt ausgibt in die zwischenablage schicken?
[02:46] <jamie_> how do i unistall ubuntu
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jamie_ Install whatever you want over the top.  It is not a ubuntu support issue
[02:46] <ddfire> jamie_ just install other OS deleting the partitions
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !de
[02:46] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[02:46] <garviz> who can recommend a good HIDS?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari Wish I had a better answer
[02:47] <ddfire> !es
[02:47] <bazhang> garviz, hids?
[02:47] <CaptainMorgan> can someone help me? System > Admin/Prefs under Network Tools is supposed to list "Printing" but it does not - where did it go???
[02:47] <garviz> yes
[02:47] <calamari> Jack_Sparrow: I'll go ahead and upgrade.. won't kill me :)
[02:47] <bazhang> garviz, what is hids
[02:47] <garviz> a Host intrussion detection system
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari Cool, come back if you run into any issues
[02:48] <garviz> it's a sw to detect intrussion in a system
[02:48] <peeps_> hello, i just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:48] <bazhang> garviz, are you talking about a firewall?
[02:48] <garviz> not exactly
[02:48] <peeps_> and now im getting some stuff error
[02:48] <raylu> garviz: hire someone to stare at logs ;D
[02:48] <lyk3n> hello
[02:48] <keithclark> That is what I thought
[02:48] <garviz> jajaja
[02:48] <garviz> a goo joke
[02:48] <garviz> good joke
[02:48] <Anacranom> calamari, i wouldnt go past 8.04 though, depending on your hardware and preferred software...
[02:48] <shadowwulf> can anybody help me here ? i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:48] <peeps_> http://pastebin.com/m2d577d0a
[02:48] <peeps_> is the error
[02:48] <ranok> !id | garviz
[02:48] <peeps_> its saying that there is a dependency problem with java
[02:48] <ranok> whoops
[02:49] <CaptainMorgan> 1334 people and no one can help me with finding the Printing selection that has mysteriously disappeared??
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> calamari You cant jump releases unless you do a fresh install
[02:49]  * oliwel waves a hello 
[02:49] <garviz> I don't know which to use: AIDE, OSSEC, tripwire
[02:49] <magikid> CaptainMorgan: Right click on the Menu and go to 'Edit Menu'
[02:49] <garviz> samhain
[02:49] <raylu> peeps_: sounds like something screwed up while acceptng the license agreement
[02:49] <calamari> I'll just use the update manager
[02:49] <bazhang> garviz, try whichever one you wish
[02:49] <calamari> that way I'm doing it by the book
[02:49] <badtexasz28> Still not getting past step 2 during install, screen disappears
[02:49] <peeps_> raylu: how can i undo this?
[02:49] <CaptainMorgan> magikid, and? Printing is not in there...
[02:49] <garviz> ok thanks
[02:50] <raylu> peeps_: undo what?
[02:50] <oliwel> Hi - I am seeing some strange probs with wpa_supplicant - anybody here who might spend some minutes ?
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> magikid, which is ridiculous... how does it just completely disappear?
[02:50] <bazhang> garviz, tripwire is in the ubuntu repos; sudo apt-get install tripwire
[02:50] <magikid> CaptainMorgan: Printing's not under the edit menus?
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> nope
[02:50] <magikid> CaptainMorgan: I've got nothing then.
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> I thought I would find it there and it would be deselected... but it's not even there
[02:50] <onetinsoldier> quoi: hi, did i have the  /root/xorg.conf.new  filename wrong?
[02:50] <lyk3n> does anyone know how to fix inconsistency in hardy heron
[02:50] <lyk3n> .
[02:50] <CaptainMorgan> this is ridiculous
[02:51] <bazhang> lyk3n, a bug?
[02:51] <ddfire> please help, i dont know what i did but now my left and rigth control are exchanged how i restore it?
[02:51] <idejmcd> jack_sparrow: did you see my last messages?
[02:51] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: make a new item
[02:51] <scientes> i have root as nfs and i keep getting out of disk space errors
[02:51] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, what do I connect it to?
[02:51] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: that runs: system-config-printer
[02:51] <CaptainMorgan> k
[02:51] <evasexy> pls solution ubuntu error message "cpu frequency scalling unsupported
[02:51] <darkangel424> how do i turn my windows bootloader back on and disable the grub loading station?
[02:51] <quoi> onetinsoldier, this time done the command cp..but after these commands i couldn't login :)
[02:51] <darkangel424> via windows vista if possible
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> idejmcd Not sure.  did you make the mount point as I indicated
[02:51] <lyk3n> bazhang, I don't know,but the pc locks up and it tells me I have 2.1% incosistency. fsck doesn't help
[02:51] <peeps_> raylu: this error, its keeping from isntalling other packages
[02:51] <idejmcd> yes
[02:52] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: work?
[02:52] <jrib> darkangel424: you won't be able to load ubuntu afaik (though you may be able to with some tinkering)
[02:52] <raylu> peeps_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> darkangel424 boot windows disk and fixmbr
[02:52] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, so i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to log in
[02:52] <ranok> anyone notice instability with Pidgin lately?
[02:52] <raylu> peeps_: or you could uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:52] <TrotskY> Where is Network Manager??
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> darkangel424 for further help, please /j #Windows
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, "Failed to execue child process "system-config-printer" (No such file or directory)
[02:52] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, should i delete any file now?
[02:52] <magikid> ranok: yeah.  I wonder what's up with that.
[02:52] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: did you uninstall printing?
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, without a doubt definitely not - it's hooked up to cups
[02:52] <onetinsoldier> quoi: oh, hmmm. i don't know what's wrong there! what happened when you tried to log in?
[02:53] <ranok> magikid: I wish I could reproduce it more regualiry
[02:53] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: *facepalm*
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, clarification?
[02:53] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: huh?
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, clarification on the face palm
[02:54] <jtrucks> anyone know debugfs really well?
[02:54] <onetinsoldier> quoi: so, you now have a /root/xorg.conf.new file  correct? if so, could you pastebin it?
[02:54] <jtrucks> or at least fairly well?
[02:54] <peeps_> raylu: http://pastebin.com/m126b5d35
[02:54] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: what did you do for it do go bye bye?
[02:54] <peeps_> raylu: this is how dumb the apt-get system is
[02:54] <jrib> jtrucks: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[02:54] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, difficult to describe..the system was trying to allow me to log in, but the screen was turn to black
[02:54] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, I seriously did nothing, I printed from it yesterday... today, I might have ran System Update, but that's it.
[02:54] <raylu> peeps_: ...
[02:54] <raylu> peeps_: you forgot the -a
[02:54] <quoi> ﻿onetinsoldier, and this happened sometimes..
[02:55] <peeps_> raylu: same thing happens
[02:55] <raylu> peeps_: i highly doubt that. "dpkg --reconfigure -a"
[02:55] <raylu> peeps_: with the -a
[02:55] <CaptainMorgan> err. Update Manager
[02:55] <idejmcd> jack_sparrow: nm, i'll come back later
[02:55] <raylu> peeps_: ah, nevermind
[02:55] <peeps_> raylu: http://pastebin.com/m57c47a9f
[02:55] <Weems> how do I mount a windows drive, I did mount -a but nothing was mounted
[02:55] <jtrucks> I get this error from debugfs and google is no help: "make_link: No free space in the directory"
[02:55] <peeps_> heh
[02:55] <ranok> CaptainMorgan: hmm, dunno, try rebooting if you did something, installing ubuntu-desktop to ensure you have all the req. packages, other than that, I have no idea, but I must be off, good luck!
[02:55] <magikid> Weems: Is it formated with NTFS?
[02:56] <peeps_> raylu: how might i get rid of this issue so i can install other packages and continue enjoying this live environment?
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> peeps_ What changes have you made to your sources list?
[02:56] <carpii> probably access permissions
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, k, thanks!
[02:56] <peeps_> Jack_Sparrow: absolutely none
[02:56] <peeps_> default list
[02:56] <quoi> onetinsoldier,http://pastebin.com/d1e24c2d5
[02:56] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, magikid oddly, I'm able to print right now - I just tested printed a document... and it printed fine... but why can't I find Printing?
[02:57] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok, i don't know what's going on there. someone else might have to try and solve the problem. i recommend you ask for help frmo the channel again, and pastebin the /root/xorg.conf.new file and /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file
[02:57] <raylu> peeps_: you could try removing sun-java6-bin from dpkg... otherwise, i have to go, sorry
[02:57] <whyameye> is there a way I could have 2 instances of firefox open but they aren't sharing the same cookies? I am working on a website and I want one instance to be logged in and the other not to be.
[02:57] <shadowwulf> anybody help me here ? i just did an update to ubuntu 8.10 and now my amarok says it audio output unavailible  xine is busy  ... any fixes ????
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> meh, I'll reboot
[02:57] <CaptainMorgan> but that's a freakin windows solution.. come on
[02:58] <Weems> http://paste.ubuntu.com/86728/
[02:58] <magikid> CaptainMorgan: Have you tried apt-get system-config-printer-gnome or apt-get system-config-printer-common
[02:58] <peeps_> raylu: thanks though
[02:58] <danhs> is there a replacement for gnome-keyring-manager?
[02:58] <Potjie> nbbnjn,
[02:58] <danhs> I have to reset a password that I chose as "remember forever"
[02:58] <danhs> but isn't working out so well
[02:58] <danhs> :-p
[02:58] <lyk3n> whyameye, if you open  to instances of a site then clear the cookies on one of them it should work,but no guarantee
[02:58] <raylu> peeps_: or not.
[02:59] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok, that looks better than the very first xorg.conf file you posted, so i don't know what the problem is really
[02:59] <Weems> anyone?
[02:59] <raylu> peeps_: ok, how has removing sun-java6-bin from dpkg been going?
[02:59] <raylu> danhs: you can try gpg --edit-key
[02:59] <DasEI> Weems:
[02:59] <quoi> onetinsoldier,http://pastebin.com/d22bb7f94 here is the log.old
[02:59] <magikid> Weems: Is it NTFS formatted?
[02:59] <danhs> raylu: I have a password saved on samba drive (home directory) for a user that's not me
[02:59] <danhs> I want to un-remember that username/password so that I can sign in as myself!
[02:59] <DasEI> Weems:open a terminal..
[03:00] <onetinsoldier> quoi: ok,that 'might' might give a clue
[03:00] <quoi> onetinsoldier: should i delete any file now??
[03:00] <DasEI> Weems:sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[03:00] <peeps_> raylu: sucessful, thanks compadre
[03:00] <DasEI> Weems:which you want ? on the 640gb or the other ?
[03:00] <raylu> peeps_: nice.
[03:01] <peeps_> raylu: thats a weird fix
[03:01] <raylu> peeps_: heh
[03:01] <raylu> peeps_: it's a weird install process
[03:01] <raylu> peeps_: requires that you accept a license agreement
[03:01] <PeskyJ> if I go to places->CD/DVD creator, it opens burn:/// which is a cool feature, but when I try to drag stuff there, it says operation not permitted by back-end, how can I fix this?
[03:01] <macjason0607> hey all for some reason i do a sudo mktfs.ntfs or mktfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1 and it won't work period .. i tried to format the hd in windows as ntfs and it erroed .. i tried a long format and it didnt'work .. any ideas ?
[03:01] <tvaughn> can the screensaver be further customizied?
[03:01] <quoi> onetinsoldier: thanks,bye
[03:02] <scientes> how do i build a nfs root capable initramfs ?
[03:02] <Mez> macjason0607: it's mkfs
[03:02] <magikid> tvaughn: Some of them can be
[03:02] <Mez> macjason0607: and needs o be run as root
[03:02] <DasEI> macjason0607:how does gparted show the parti ?
[03:02] <ceej> Skinkie: I have a site running on cherokee now (production) and it's blazingly fast :)
[03:02] <DasEI> Weems:?
[03:03] <tvaughn> i was playing a game once and my screen darkened and i had to hit a key on my keyboard to keep it from going to sleep i think
[03:03] <tvaughn> how can i avoid this?
[03:03] <magikid> tvaughn: run 'xscreensaver-demo' without the quotes
[03:03] <nbeebo> anyone know any separate desktop pager to have on the desktop? would love transparency...
[03:03] <mib_poziqe> hi how do i adjust the contrast in ubuntu
[03:03] <TrotskY> Someone can help me? I want to install network manager, but it dont appear in my pc!
[03:03] <welly> Hello all.. I'm trying to set a static IP address on my ubuntu 8.04 server, which is running under parallels on the mac. I can get the networking details for ip address, netmask and broadcast addresses but not sure what to use for gateway
[03:03] <tvaughn> it says its not installed magikid
[03:03] <magikid> tvaughn: when it asks DON'T stop the gnome screensaver thing
[03:04] <mib_poziqe> hi how do i adjust the contrast in ubuentu i have look everwhere! ALSO my mouse clicks rendomly when i type i don't even touch the mouse!!
[03:04] <ceej> hey all, anyone know how to install python2.5 PIL on ubuntu 8.10 server?
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience > mib_poziqe
[03:04] <jtrucks> anyone know ext3 blockgroups?
[03:04] <DefamedPrawn> hi. Is there any tool in the repos to help me configure an ATI graphics card?
[03:04] <tvaughn> installing...
[03:05] <magikid> tvaughn: kk then 'apt-get install xscreensaver'
[03:05] <Ghordan> hi
[03:05] <magikid> tvaughn: then run the other command
[03:05] <mib_poziqe> Jack_Sparrow: hey cna you please help me
[03:05] <DasEI> DefamedPrawn:which distro ?
[03:05] <tvaughn> and i dont do what?
[03:05] <Alpert> hey
[03:05] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: what video card do you have?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_poziqe no
[03:05] <Alpert> I have Ubuntu 8.04 and I cannot upgrade it
[03:05] <magikid> tvaughn: Don't stop the Gnome screensaver
[03:05] <magikid> tvaughn: It'll launch a prompt select Cancel
[03:05] <wx9j> any free news servers ?
[03:05] <Alpert> I cannot get wireless internet either
[03:05] <Alpert> I have a dell B130
[03:05] <Decepticon> Odd-rationale i got wifi to work somehow, im not even sure what i did
[03:05] <DefamedPrawn> Daisuke_Ido ubuntu 8.10 onetinsoldier I don't know .. only that it's ati.
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > wx9j
[03:06] <tvaughn> cancel to the second one too?
[03:06] <Alpert> how do I set up my wireless?
[03:06] <tvaughn> not running on display :0:0
[03:06] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: roger... do the following command and show me the response:  lspci -v | grep VGA
[03:06] <magikid> tvaughn: yeah cancel it
[03:06] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[03:07] <tvaughn> and this does?
[03:07] <magikid> tvaughn: now you can go through and play settings on each screensaver
[03:07] <DefamedPrawn> onetinsoldier 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600]
[03:07] <tvaughn> and it will apply to the gnome one?
[03:07] <DasEI> DefamedPrawn:got it (randomly) ati support is not nice on 8.10, which card ?
[03:07] <magikid> tvaughn: yeah, it'll carry over
[03:07] <Ghordan> can some someone help me by a question? i want to try ubuntu and to use it first from a usb stick my question is can i install programms too to can i use later or not?
[03:07] <berilio> how do i configure gnome-voice-control?
[03:08] <dva5912> Ive already checked php and they told me to install ether sendmail, or exim4 i installed exim4. I have created a script that is to send emails but when it comes to that time it goes thourgh according to the script but it doesn't arrive in the inbox. i'm guessing that it has something ether to do with the php ini or the mail clinet. Anyone else have this problem? How do i fix it?
[03:08] <DefamedPrawn> DasEI 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24 1P [Radeon Mobility X600]?
[03:08] <macjason0607> got it .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/86005/
[03:08] <DasEI> Ghordan: yes, see :
[03:08] <mib_poziqe> hi how do i adjust the contrast in ubuentu i have look everwhere! ALSO my mouse clicks rendomly when i type i don't even touch the mouse!!
[03:08] <Ghordan> sry for my bad english
[03:08] <DasEI> !usb
[03:08] <carandraug> Ghordan: yes
[03:09] <Awsoonn> raylu: well, I still have me error 12 which I come to read that it means that something happend but it doesnt know what, any ideas where to progress?
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: roger... laptop eh? cool. you could try installing the proprietary ati fglrx linux driver. i'm using it. it's straight from ati, so probably the best driver you can get
[03:09] <Ghordan> ty
[03:09] <DefamedPrawn> onetinsoldier already have it thanks. was wondering if there were any tools for other things though, like controlling refresh rate, brightness, etc?
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: oh! i see... not sure
[03:10] <tvaughn> i have a question about the sessions startup options when you speify a command can it be more than one command such as a sleep command?
[03:12] <raylu> Awsoonn: error 12...where?
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> DefamedPrawn: have you tried... Applications --> ATI Catalyst Control Center (super-user) ?
[03:12] <Awsoonn> http://pastebin.com/d6335ddc5
[03:12] <luddite> what a good fast multiple text file searcher for a text string?
[03:13] <DasEI> DefamedPrawn:you can try to put fglrx manually in xorg.conf or have a (little dangerous) try with envy-qt
[03:13] <tlbs> ls
[03:13] <Awsoonn> raylu: "This error is returned if the device strings syntax is correct but other than that, an error occurred that isn't defined by any other error. "
[03:13] <jtrucks> so.. what's the best way to remount a partition as rw (it was remounted ro on me due to errors, but in order to fix those errors, it's likely I need to do a remount rw)
[03:13] <Ghordan> dasei german?
[03:13] <DasEI> Ghordan: yes
[03:13] <Ghordan> can i querry you?
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jtrucks Force mount is what you would use
[03:14] <DasEI> jtrucks: temporally or permanent ?
[03:14] <DasEI> Ghordan: yes
[03:14] <macjason0607> http://paste.ubuntu.com/86739/
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jtrucks sudo mkdir /media/locked-drive then sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/locked-drive -o force  substitute your locked drive for sda1
[03:14] <Jack_Sparrow> as an example
[03:15] <jtrucks> hmmm. can't remount in place?
[03:15] <macjason0607> brb
[03:15] <onetinsoldier> jtrucks: in order to fix the errors, it should be left mounted ro
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> jtrucks remount will still hit the lock
[03:15] <Decepticon> how do i get hard drives to show up on the desktop as icons, like when a flash drive is inserted a icon for it appears on desktop for gnome?
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Decepticon mounts in /media show on desktop
[03:16] <Decepticon> oh
[03:16] <Decepticon> ive been mounting my stuff at /mnt/*
[03:16] <Decepticon> hmm
[03:16] <Decepticon> ill change the path to /media/* will it work?
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Decepticon Common..
[03:16] <dva5912> Ive already checked php and they told me to install ether sendmail, or exim4 i installed exim4. I have created a script that is to send emails but when it comes to that time it goes thourgh according to the script but it doesn't arrive in the inbox. i'm guessing that it has something ether to do with the php ini or the mail clinet. Anyone else have this problem? How do i fix it?
[03:16] <jtrucks> Jack_Sparrow: uhoh. so unless I reboot or have another writable partition on the system, this isn't coming out of RO?
[03:16] <Decepticon> huh?
[03:17] <Decepticon> what do you mean common
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> i think he meant c'mon
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jtrucks I am at the end of a very lng day...  what format is the partition type
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Decepticon common issue when mounts are in mnt and not media
[03:17] <jtrucks> Jack_Sparrow: ext3
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> and by, c'mon, i think he means.. yes, it will work
[03:18] <jtrucks> which might be the last time I use it.
[03:18] <jtrucks> i'm trying to recover deleted files.
[03:18] <jtrucks> that is NOT fun.
[03:18] <Decepticon> i see
[03:18] <onetinsoldier> because it's what he had just said
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jtrucks  read only means you can recover your data. you should not try and write to the ro partition
[03:18] <dva5912> Ive already checked php and they told me to install ether sendmail, or exim4 i installed exim4. I have created a script that is to send emails but when it comes to that time it goes thourgh according to the script but it doesn't arrive in the inbox. i'm guessing that it has something ether to do with the php ini or the mail clinet. Anyone else have this problem? How do i fix it?
[03:19] <DasEI> DefamedPrawn:xorg 7.4 of ibex is bader to ati then nvidia (or the other way :P), lots of handwork
[03:19] <jtrucks> Jack_Sparrow: that mcuh I've figured out... so I'm trying to figure out which blocks are in use for these (I have the inode list already), so I can copy it off.
[03:19] <jtrucks> meanwhile, the entire system is unuseable.
[03:20] <eseven73> sendmail is nice but it adds like a 30 sec delay when you load ubuntu
[03:20] <Decepticon> onetinsoldier i was confused thinking he meant c'mon as well
[03:20] <Decepticon> onetinsoldier but hes not so rude
[03:20] <DefamedPrawn> DasEI ty
[03:20] <dva5912> i killed sendmail. It takes 30 seconds to send one mail but it never sends
[03:20] <CaptainMorgan> ranok, thanks! I actually had to run system-config-printer-gnome/common because apparently it wasn't installed... very VERY strange... I distinctly recall it being there after system install and even after setting up the printer.... gosh
[03:20] <nacho_> people i have intrepid but i want to update openoffice... which is the best way to do it? unninstalling it and installing the new one?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Decepticon not usually.. but  have my monents too
[03:21] <eseven73> really? Sendmail worked out-of-the-box for me
[03:21] <onetinsoldier> Decepticon: lol...after that, he also told someone he's at the end of a long day. ;-)
[03:21] <dva5912> i dont know. maby its something with my networking.
[03:21] <dva5912> doubt it though every thing else works
[03:21] <Decepticon> yeah so i was thinking Jack_Sparrow was being a real dick to me... but im glad i asked for clarification ahaha
[03:21] <DasEI> DefamedPrawn:there is an util to automate it, but it stimes borks the sys, so unless youbroght some time, don't run it (envy)
[03:21] <DasEI> !envyNG!
[03:21] <DasEI> !envyNG
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Decepticon thanks for checking..
[03:22] <kimpol> hi
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> hello kimpol
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> hmmm
[03:22] <dva5912>  * ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken
[03:22] <Decepticon> how to never get this dialog box: "Unlock Keyring: Enter password for default keyring to unlock. The application NetworkManager Applet' aslkdfjsdl wants access to the default keyring but it is locked'
[03:22] <irpapabear> short visit
[03:22] <dva5912> that might be my problem
[03:22] <onetinsoldier> ya
[03:23] <keres> hi onetinsoldier
[03:23] <onetinsoldier> keres: hi!
[03:23] <DefamedPrawn> is there a good, lamer-friendly networking howto anywher?
[03:23] <keres> onetinsoldier: i'm starting with a fresh install again. if netradiant doesn't work, i'll try it on arch
[03:24] <dva5912> where is the log that exim makes when it processes a request?
[03:24] <CaptainMorgan> !gparted
[03:24] <jtrucks> does gparted manage LVM volumes, too?
[03:24] <Anacranom> DefamedPrawn, networking how-to for what?
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh... roger that? you know, one thing about the other day, is you cold have updated the source through svn. you never know, prhaps it was updated between the time you downloaded it, and the time that i downloaded it. but that probably wasn't the problem. but you never know!
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> cold=could
[03:25] <Anacranom> DefamedPrawn, what are you trying to do?
[03:25] <keres> onetinsoldier: you could be right ;)
[03:25] <DefamedPrawn> Anacranom I want to network my new laptop to my pc, so I can share files between the 2.
[03:26] <Anacranom> DefamedPrawn, are they both ubuntu?
[03:26] <dva5912> 2008-12-16 21:25:50 socket bind() to port 25 for address 127.0.0.1 failed: Address already in use: waiting 30s before trying again (2 more tries)
[03:26] <dva5912>    This is a frequent item in the list looks like a problem. What is wrong?
[03:27] <DefamedPrawn> Anacranom yes. Both 8.10
[03:27] <alicev> hallo
[03:27] <Until_It_Sleeps> !hi
[03:28] <alicev> i have installed with wubi 8.10 on vista
[03:28] <Until_It_Sleeps> o-o
[03:28] <KX> Where does GEdit save the local backups of files edited via FTP?
[03:28] <alicev> problem chkdisk /r
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> keres: anyway.. i wish you better luck this time :)
[03:28] <Decepticon> how to disable this dialog box on reboot: "Unlock Keyring: Enter password for default keyring to unlock. The application NetworkManager Applet' aslkdfjsdl wants access to the default keyring but it is locked'
[03:28] <alicev> can someone help me?
[03:28] <dva5912> what command can i use to see wahts using port 25
[03:28] <keres> thanks onetinsoldier ;)
[03:29] <Anacranom> DefamedPrawn, you have a shared directory on each?
[03:29] <dva5912> omg. can anyone see what im typing
[03:29] <KX> Yup.
[03:29] <KX> Anyone? Gedit backups, stored where?
[03:30] <DefamedPrawn> Anacranom not even sure what a shared directory is.
[03:30] <KX> A kind of important file that I spent many hours on yesterday got reverted on the server and I need to find a backup if there is one
[03:30] <DefamedPrawn> Anacranom sorry about the slow replies, not used to this laptop kb. Taking a while.
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: i think it's  /var/log/mail or something
[03:31] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: i think it's  /var/log/mail.log
[03:31] <phayz> is there a way of taking the compiz fusion settings which i guess are behind the "Normal" radio button and using these in another distribution?
[03:31] <granol> KX - by default, I believe gedit will store a backup file as originalfilename~ in the same directory as the original (if that makes sense!)
[03:31] <alicev> I have ubuntu 8.10 with wubi installed and have trouble chkdisk / r how can I fix this problem
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> KX same folder with long date type extension
[03:31] <KX> granol: It's a file on a remote FTP server
[03:31] <KX> Where will the backups be for that
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: there's several log files in there.... mail.warn, mail.log, mail.info, and... the big one... mail.err
[03:32] <dva5912> ive got a lot of unqualified domain names in their
[03:32] <dva5912> could that be throuwing it off
[03:32] <onetinsoldier> oh
[03:33] <granol> KX: where did you edit the file?
[03:33] <dva5912> Dec 16 21:12:55 cdchance sendmail[19541]: unable to qualify my own domain name (cdchance) -- using short name
[03:33] <dva5912> Dec 16 21:12:55 cdchance sendmail[19541]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(www-data): can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue-client/): No such file or direct$
[03:33] <KX> granol: Err, I opened GEdit, connected to the FTP server then found the file and clicked edit...
[03:33] <KX> but I'm sure GEdit stores local backups of remote files, I just can't find them
[03:33] <TraceGreen> Hello, does anyone know where can I download the patch for bootsplash for 2.6.27?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> alicev please read the wubi faq and understand why and ahow it differs from a real partition install
[03:34] <tkstka> IMPORTANT QUESTION!  any PLAYABLE strategy games for linux?
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: i can't be much help with that really. but i thought i'd at least let you know we can see you typing in here! :-) perhaps there is a #exim or #exim4 channel if you don't get help in here? i don't know tho
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !games > tkstka
[03:34] <alicev> oke thnks Jack_Sparrow
[03:34] <tritium> tkstka: no need for caps, please
[03:34] <Alpert> I have a noobish question
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:34] <evilfix> !games
[03:34] <Alpert> !games
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > Alpert
[03:35] <JaseVin> Hello people, this is my first time chatting on here!
[03:35] <Alpert> Ok
[03:35] <Alpert> If I were to download the program wine
[03:36] <anders_> welcome JaseVin
[03:36] <JaseVin> thank you
[03:36] <Alpert> where would I type in the line they give me?
[03:36] <Alpert> I'm blaking
[03:36] <Alpert> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt hardy main #WineHQ
[03:36] <JaseVin> how are you anders
[03:36] <nodealmsft> hey for some reason my system only picks up 2.8 gb of memory and my bios reads there is 4gb what do i need to do to recognize all of it?
[03:36] <Bitfish> how do i search recursively *in* files?
[03:36] <Alpert> where do I type that in?
[03:36] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: i have an idea
[03:36] <DefunctProcess> how do i get a character count in openoffice?
[03:36] <eseven73> Alpert: 9 times out of 10 you type commands in a terminal (alt + F2)
[03:37] <Alpert> ok
[03:37] <Alpert> thanks
[03:37] <eseven73> yw
[03:37] <Alpert> but its like to download a program
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Alpert open terminal sudo apt-get install wine
[03:37] <avis> i have a box that i'd like to try and install a lamp server on.  i dont however have a kvm for it.  any chance i can install the lamp server, then switch over to using that computer over a network ?  i guess your usual way of doing that is ssh and i'm curious what the gui over network options might be because i think i'd like to disable ssh on the lamp server before doing anything
[03:37] <DefunctProcess> nvm i got it
[03:37] <Alpert> oh, ok
[03:37] <Alpert> thanks
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[03:37] <bazhang> Alpert, dont use the enter key as punctuation
[03:37] <Alpert> :P
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang goodnight...
[03:37] <bazhang> night Jack_Sparrow
[03:38] <nodealmsft> hey for some reason my system only picks up 2.8 gb of memory and my bios reads there is 4gb what do i need to do to recognize all of it?
[03:38] <KX> Anyone know where GEdit stores backups of remote files
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: take a look at your /etc/hosts file... you might need to set it up so that your system is an FQDN in it
[03:38] <eseven73> Gedit is just a text editor , what do you mean 'stores backups of remote files'?
[03:38] <fuxxy> Is there a hard drive integrity tool for ubuntu?
[03:39] <KX> eseven73: What do you think I mean, I know for a fact that GEdit stores BACKUPS of REMOTE files, as in ones not on my system that I have edited, I just can't find said backups...
[03:39] <KX> Like, files edited via FTP, would be remote.... get it?
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: you still here?
[03:40] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to get gparted to format to ntfs?
[03:40] <Bitfish> how do i search recursively *in* files??!
[03:40] <eseven73> right but gedit doesnt 'store' any files that im aware of
[03:40] <CaptainMorgan> it's an option, but it's not highlighted... so I'm thinking I need something else to make selectable..
[03:40] <Bitfish> egrep works pretty well, but it doesn't add a newline
[03:40] <itsols> Can someone help me with language setup, please?
[03:40] <KX> eseven73: Right. So how come, sometimes I get "unable to store local backup copy of ftp://......."
[03:40] <JaseVin> Does anyone know if Dreamweaver cs3 works on wine?
[03:41] <bazhang> JaseVin, check the appdb
[03:41] <bazhang> !appdb > JaseVin
[03:41] <JaseVin> what's an appdb
[03:41] <CaptainMorgan> JaseVin, I never could get it to work... but I use a virtual machine... so that helps
[03:41] <JaseVin> How do you see private message
[03:41] <Bitfish> JaseVin, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[03:41] <eseven73> KX: Gedit might create backups, you werent very clear with your question anyways type 'man find' in a terminal
[03:41] <solid_liq> !ping
[03:42] <KX> eseven73: Tried it, find never works for me for anything though so that doesn't matter
[03:42] <KX> Nor does whereis
[03:42] <KX> or locate...
[03:42] <Bitfish> could someone please tell me how to add newlines with egrep? that sucks
[03:42] <itsols> Does UBUNTU allow English and Arabic at the same time?
[03:42] <freakabcd> hi all
[03:42] <freakabcd> do you guy shave evolution working with exchange servers ?
[03:42] <bazhang> itsols, of course it does
[03:42] <eseven73> hmmm locate datebase might need a 'push' then 'sudo updatedb' in a terminal KX
[03:42] <Bitfish> KX, sudo find /path -iname '*pattern*' 2> /dev/null doesn't work? why?
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: you still here?
[03:43] <eseven73> what Bitfish said
[03:43] <irpapabear> !wine
[03:43] <itsols> bazhang - I've installed Arabic but it doesn't seem to work. The keys don't correspond to the actual text. Is this s a bug?
[03:43] <[e]Lement> So, remind me.  What replaced webmin?
[03:43] <eseven73> !ebox
[03:43] <halycon> hey everyone in your opinion what is the best media player to use in Ubuntu? I am thinking either Mplayer or VLC. Also there are certain videos where the audio doesn't work because the video files use some obscure audio codec. Does anyone know how to install the specific audio codec that they require?
[03:43] <bazhang> itsols, doesnt work is not much of a descriptor
[03:44] <[e]Lement> eseven73, that was not required.
[03:44] <eseven73> trying to help
[03:44] <halycon> the audio codec is some old apple one
[03:44] <lab4> is there any way to get rid of the win+c moving the cursor to the center so amarok can use that key combo?
[03:44] <JaseVin> Bitfish thanks for the link to cs3 information in wine
[03:44] <Bitfish> JaseVin, you are welcome
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> it's an option, but it's not highlighted... so I'm thinking I need something else to make selectable..
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to get gparted to format to ntfs?
[03:44] <CaptainMorgan> it's an option, but it's not highlighted... so I'm thinking I need something else to make selectable..
[03:45] <Decepticon> how to ensure wifi will ALWAYS connect to my wireless network, preference over ANY other wifi network, at login, and will reconnect to my wifi network upon any disconnection (i am disabling eth0)
[03:45] <eseven73> [e]Lement: one side note though, i noticed ebox is very very stripped down unless you add all the modules for it, unlike webmin that came with tons of stuff out-of-the-box :)
[03:45] <[e]Lement> Lame
[03:45] <itsols> Sorry bazhang. I've installed Arabic on Ubuntu 7.10. But the problems are:1. Only Egyptian Arabic is shown. 2. There's no Saudi Arabic. 3. When I hit a key, the WRONG letter appears. I even looked at SCIM and everything SEEMS fine. Am I missing out on something? Any advice is highly appreciated.
[03:45] <[e]Lement> I think I may stick with webmin.  I dunno
[03:46] <eseven73> yeah, i hope theres a fix for webmin soon! i really miss it
[03:46] <arguedas> ?
[03:46] <[e]Lement> eseven73, what exactly is the problem?
[03:46] <eseven73> i heard its unsecure for ubuntu
[03:46] <onetinsoldier> lab4: you might do something like changing the type of keyboard layout in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, so that it has a different idea of the purpose for the win key
[03:47] <[e]Lement> hm
[03:47] <eseven73> that and something bout the way it packages things for ubuntu
[03:47] <JaseVin> Ubottu I've just found your privatge message thanks
[03:47] <eseven73> and Jack_Sparrow told me just two days ago there will not be a webmin fix anytime soon
[03:47] <eseven73> :(
[03:47] <MHz128>  hey all! what is the name of the  start up script file? .localrc ? or local.lrc? where is it located?
[03:47] <onetinsoldier> dva5912: where did you go?
[03:48] <kristian_> how can i find an unmounted hdd, *via terminal*, format it and mount it to a directory?
[03:48] <bazhang> itsols, in which apps? Firefox? text editors? you may wish to install more language support packs and recheck the scim configuration (it needs a restart to take effect)
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> keres: how's it going? having any luck?
[03:48] <Bitfish> !egrep
[03:48] <DasEI> !live | Ghordan
[03:48] <DasEI> !live > Ghordan
[03:48] <Bitfish> !grep
[03:48] <keres> onetinsoldier: just got subversion installed
[03:48] <Decepticon> kristian_ try 'sudo fdisk -l' to see where/what partitions there are. then mount via sudo mount /dev/partition /path/to/mount/dir
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> keres: roger
[03:49] <Bitfish> !grep
[03:49] <itsols> appaently everything! I tried text editor, Open Office - nothing works with Arabic.
[03:49] <nena> hola a todos buenas noches!
[03:49] <[e]Lement> For some lame reason I cannot get amarok and MySQL to work nicely
[03:49] <kimpol> :q!
[03:50] <itsols> I even retried removing and reinstalling the language pack and still nothing even after a restart.
[03:50] <keres> onetinman: success!!!!!
[03:51] <keres> onetinsoldier: success!!!!
[03:51] <keres> lol
[03:51] <keres> sorry :S
[03:51] <avis> i have a box that i'd like to try and install a lamp server on.  i dont however have a kvm for it.  any chance i can install the lamp server, then switch over to using that computer over a network ?  i guess your usual way of doing that is ssh and i'm curious what the gui over network options might be because i think i'd like to disable ssh on the lamp server before doing anything
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> keres: W00t!
[03:51] <keres> yeah!!
[03:51] <kristian_> Decepticon : thanks! :-)
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> keres: awesome! i was hoping badly that your reinstall wouldn't be in vein
[03:52] <Ultraputz> machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal.  (running xfce4 on an ubuntu dist)
[03:52] <DasEI> itsols: open synaptic paketmanager and seearch for language > additional lang-support, then try again region & language
[03:52] <keres> onetinsoldier: i needed to anyway. :P but thanks :)
[03:52] <Decepticon> kristian_ i forgot you asked about format, i dont know about that, ask someone else here
[03:52] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok, cool :-)
[03:52] <itsols> Thanks DasEl, shall try that.
[03:52] <eseven73> Ultraputz: its probably a lot cleaner and easier to just download the Xubuntu CD
[03:53] <Ultraputz> eseven - this has worked fine for 6 months
[03:53] <Ultraputz> it just started tonight
[03:53] <Decepticon> kristian_ also if you want it to automatically mount on login or reboot, edit /etc/fstab (you'll see an example in there)
[03:53] <kristian_> Decepticon : i think i figured out the format bit. :-)
[03:53] <Ultraputz> also, xfce-specific (xubuntu) lacks a lot of stuff that gnome comes with. basically, want gnome desktop without metacity
[03:53] <eseven73> Ultraputz: ouch, that is something im regretting, although I know its just a matter of time before it happens to me
[03:54] <kristian_> Decepticon : oh yeah! forgot about that. thanks for mentioning! :-)
[03:54] <Decepticon> kristian_ i streamlined this process in my head, because i change disks a lot :D
[03:54] <JaseVin> So what's better Kde or gnome?
[03:54] <irpapabear> gnome
[03:54] <eseven73> !better
[03:54] <kristian_> Decepticon : why do you do that? :-P
[03:54] <onetinsoldier> it all depends on what you like better
[03:55] <Decepticon> kristian_ just bought some hdds and have some old hdds, copying and swapping data between the two, fumbling around i figured out thats the steps
[03:56] <JaseVin> so far i like gnome, kde seemed limited. then again i might have lacted giving it a chance
[03:56] <kristian_> Decepticon : alright! well, thanks a lot! :-)
[03:56] <onetinsoldier> irpapabear: i install like 5, 6 ,7 or whatever number of window managers, and check them out. see what they are about, and enjoy them all!
[03:56] <eseven73> so far Xubuntu is my favorite
[03:57] <radlipat> mine to
[03:57] <luddite> fluxbuntu ftw
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> i like enlightenment a lot
[03:57] <luddite> i hate skins
[03:57] <luddite> i hate desktops
[03:57] <D3RGPS31> How do I login to my pc account from a live cd >.>
[03:57] <luddite> i like and use apps
[03:57] <onetinsoldier> Eterm rocksss!
[03:57] <Paradoxx> Where do I find the USB section in virtualbox to add a usb device?
[03:57] <itsols> Sorry DasEl, I can't seem to find a package called "Additional language support" and nothing similar to it is listed. Is there something I could do?
[03:57] <Mimi> Hey how do I disable my trackpad? or... atleast make it stop working while I type?
[03:58] <Decepticon> how do i tell the network manager to preferentially connect to wireless network X over any other wireless network, in case of reboot/login, disconnection/reconnection, and any other circumstance. (i am planning to disable eth0 and need a RELIABLE internet connection via wireless)
[03:58] <eseven73> Paradoxx: are you using the open source virtualbox?
[03:58] <CarlFK> D3RGPS31: insatll openssh-server, set a password on user ubuntu
[03:58] <D3RGPS31> CarlFK i'm using the livecd on the computer
[03:58] <D3RGPS31> CarlFK I want to login to the computer from the livecd
[03:59] <Paradoxx> eseven73, yea I am
[03:59] <TrotskY> What is the best site with tutos for ubuntu?
[03:59] <eseven73> Paradoxx: you cant get usb with the OSE version
[03:59] <CarlFK> D3RGPS31: um.. you mean get files from the local disk?
[03:59] <Stoffer> ok....I have a problem.  I installed ubuntu v7.04 on a friends sony viao.  It's definitely got access to the internet, but when I try to upgrade it, it tells me that it can't connect to any of the repositories.  Help.
[03:59] <D3RGPS31> CarlFK no, i mean I want to login to the computer from the livecd
[03:59] <Paradoxx> eseven73, really!?!?....Is the non-OSE version free??
[04:00] <eseven73> free as in beer
[04:00] <radlipat> u cant
[04:00] <CarlFK> D3RGPS31: well, "the computer" is runing the live cd... so you are already there
[04:00] <Paradoxx> eseven73, kk, thanks m8
[04:00] <D3RGPS31> CarlFK i'm logged into the livecd, i want to login to the installation...
[04:00] <radlipat> u mean in your own account?
[04:00] <Stoffer> how do I update the repositories?
[04:00] <radlipat> d3r
[04:00] <eseven73> np Paradoxx
[04:00] <[e]Lement> Why the heck won't Amarok work with my MySQL >/
[04:00] <D3RGPS31> redlipat yes
[04:01] <kristian_> D3RGPS31 : you mean you want the windows password? :-P
[04:01] <D3RGPS31> kristian_ no
[04:01] <radlipat> you would have to install to harddrive i tryed that too
[04:01] <D3RGPS31> i accidentally unchecked my ubuntu desktop when using taskel
[04:01] <avis> Stoffer: i'm guessing there is an issue with your /etc/apt/sources.list you need to find a working sources list that you can trust to replace yours from the very version you are running
[04:01] <radlipat> it needs somewhere to remember your info
[04:02] <radlipat> and cant store it unless its all on the harddrive
[04:02] <D3RGPS31> radlipat I've seen the server install disk let a user login from the disk
[04:02] <Paradoxx> eseven73, Is the OSE the only one in the repos?
[04:02] <Riverhed> Hey all. Sort of new Ubuntu/Linux in general user here. I've been working on getting my wacom for my tablet PC (tx2500) working, and right now it works passably well. The only problem is that it doesn't detect when I press the stylus to the screen and use that as a click. Instead I've set the button on the side of my stylus, which should be a right-click, to single left-click and enabled the mouse options so I can hold left click to 
[04:02] <avis> D3RGPS31: if you can get to a console on that compter, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:02] <D3RGPS31> avis: network manager was removed
[04:02] <radlipat> D3RGPS31: it let them creat own account??
[04:02] <Stoffer> avis, any clue where I can locate an updated source list?
[04:03] <avis> Stoffer: i'm sorry i dont know
[04:03] <CarlFK> avis: that isnt quite true - if he boots the live cd, installing will just install into ram
[04:03] <eseven73> Paradoxx: nope
[04:03] <eseven73> it should be in there Paradoxx
[04:03] <avis> D3RGPS31: i'm thinking all you need is a /etc/network/interfaces for internet connection
[04:03] <radlipat> D3RGPS31: onto cdlive?
[04:03] <itsols> Couldn't get Arabic to work correctly. Anyway, thanks for your time. I'll try again later. Bye
[04:03] <avis> CarlFK: i referred to him booting into the machine which he removed ubuntu-desktop, i dont see how he could remove ubuntu-desktop from a live cd
[04:04] <radlipat> me eather
[04:04] <D3RGPS31> avis: i did it before i put the disk in, tasksel didn't warn me that it could uninstall stuff :/
[04:04] <eseven73> Paradoxx: even if its not in the repos virtualbox non OSE is easy to install, it has like  a install-virtualbox.pl file or something if im not mistaking
[04:05] <CarlFK> avis: "get to a console on that compter, " could mean boot the live cd and open a shell
[04:05] <radlipat> unless livecds are rewritable???????????
[04:05] <avis> i have a box that i'd like to try and install a lamp server on.  i dont however have a kvm for it.  any chance i can install the lamp server, then switch over to using that computer over a network ?  i guess your usual way of doing that is ssh and i'm curious what the gui over network options might be because i think i'd like to disable ssh on the lamp server before doing anything
[04:05] <Stoffer> why don't I have the deb command?
[04:05] <avis> CarlFK: your right Carl i should have been more precise i assumed he was on another computer
[04:05] <Paradoxx> eseven73, kk, I just got the source for the vbox repos. thanks m8
[04:06] <D3RGPS31> can you answer me this: how do i login to my computer from my livecd; do i mount it somewhere then... somehow login?
[04:06] <eseven73> np
[04:06] <onetinsoldier> Stoffer: dpkg command?
[04:06] <radlipat> i have a person on xubuntu that is having this problem idk what to tell him any ideas????
[04:06] <radlipat> [22:13] <Ultraputz> radlipat: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Apache/Setting-Permissions-in-Apache/1/
[04:06] <radlipat> [22:13] <Ultraputz> er
[04:06] <radlipat> [22:13] <Ultraputz> problem machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out after taking a _really long time_ to bring up the desktop. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal.
[04:06] <FloodBot1> radlipat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <Meshezabeel> D3RGPS31: put the CD in, it should then boot from the disc when you restart your computer (assuming your BIOS is set to boot from CD before it boots from the HD)
[04:07] <CarlFK> whats the .deb for the ati binary drivers for older ati cards?  like rage128 pic
[04:07] <Stoffer> what's a equivalent command for "deb http://......"?
[04:08] <D3RGPS31> Mesgezabeel i'm asking how to login to my computer from the livecd, i'm already logged into the livecd...
[04:08] <CarlFK> D3RGPS31: your terminolgy is confusing.
[04:08] <Decepticon> im trying to access a share, i get asked for a password, i enter user/pass and not given access, just asked for password again (winxp client is accessing shares on ubuntu samba host) here is my smb.conf: http://decepticon.rlogin.org/~decepticon/paste/cat.log
[04:08] <Meshezabeel> D3RGPS31: you are trying to log in, but you are logged in?
[04:09] <D3RGPS31> Meshezabeel I'm logged into the livecd, i want to log into my computer from the livecd (it's capable in the server disc)
[04:09] <CarlFK> Meshezabeel: d3 is trying to fix something.  start there :)
[04:10] <D3RGPS31> nvm :/ more i think about it, it'll take too much time to repair what's probably broken; i'll reinstall
[04:10] <[e]Lement> Wow
[04:10] <keres> what does ' Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated ' mean?
[04:10] <keres> onetinman:
[04:10] <[e]Lement> So my MySQL is screwed up after the Intrepid upgrade
[04:10] <[e]Lement> How cute
[04:11] <keres> onetinsoldier: it's the error that prevents me from changing views in the 2d viewport
[04:11] <keres> Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[04:11] <D3RGPS31> [e]Lement I'd laugh, but i know how much a lost database sucks
[04:11] <[e]Lement> Well no
[04:11] <[e]Lement> Every user i try to login as
[04:12] <[e]Lement> Gives me an access denied
[04:12] <[e]Lement> woah
[04:12] <[e]Lement> found a good user
[04:12] <[e]Lement> :o
[04:12] <D3RGPS31> :D
[04:13] <tritium> !enter | [e]Lement
[04:13] <radlipat> problem machine locked up, restarted it, now xfce4 desktop comes up, looks fine, then immediately logs out after taking a _really long time_ to bring up the desktop. dmesg says xfce4-session segfaulted. I killing the session cache, same deal.
[04:13] <radlipat> asks person in xubuntu
[04:13] <radlipat> idk what to tell him
[04:13] <[e]Lement> tritium, stop using the bot for your own personal vendettas.  And, the only working user is root...ahaha
[04:14] <jtrucks> is there a way to tell apt-get to both download and install to a different root directory for a single operaiton? i.e. on the command line?
[04:14] <Bsims> How do I move my amarok db and collection to a new drive without having to futz with sqllite
[04:14] <tritium> [e]Lement: just heed the advice...
[04:14] <[e]Lement> Or you'll smite me?
[04:15] <nbeebo> how do i hide gnome-panel completely?
[04:15] <radlipat> any ideas?
[04:16] <eseven73> radlipat: just keep asking in #Xubuntu or #xfce like every 10 min, eventually someone will respond
[04:16] <nbeebo> whats the question?
[04:16] <radlipat> im only one here
[04:16] <[e]Lement> radlipat, your RAM may be going bad.
[04:16] <Bsims> jtrucks: I think you have to chroot sorry
[04:16] <onetinsoldier> keres: sorry, what's happening?
[04:17] <Bsims> radlipat: try runing memtest off the ubuntu disk
[04:17] <kupesoft> Is there any way to have two iso images on a usb and boot from either or? I don't really have time to play with syslinux/isolinux or grub -- is there a todo out there?
[04:17] <jtrucks> crap.
[04:17] <jtrucks> Bsims: thanks.
[04:17] <[e]Lement> radlipat, a SEGFAULT is usually a memory issue.  Anfd if the machine suddenly locked up at some point, it's possible you blew a stick of ram.  So yes, as Bsims said run a memtest off an ubuntu disc.
[04:17] <Bsims> kupesoft: you got to monkey with grub sorry
[04:17] <Mimi> Hey how do I disable my trackpad? or... atleast make it stop working while I type?
[04:17] <rashire> ok, i'm thoroughly confused, i can't get my wireless towork consistantly, sometimes i bootup and it works, others it always drops the connection.
[04:17] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh.. i see...  a Warning. usually you can ignore 'warnings', but sometimes they do mean something that needs paying attention too
[04:17] <gaintsura> anybody good with fixing cairo-dock? I broke the 'size allowed for the dock' and now setting it back to zero doesn't fix it
[04:17] <keres> onetinsoldier: can i msg you
[04:18] <kupesoft> Bsims: is there a guide to booting from live iso images using grub -- I'm unsure what to put for the initrd and kernel stanzas in grub.conf
[04:18] <CarlFK> Mimi: there is a pacake for that.. let me find it...
[04:18] <onetinsoldier> keres: ok
[04:18] <nbeebo> how do i hide gnome-panel completely?
[04:18] <D3RGPS31> during the ubuntu installation, is there a way i can customize what software is installed?
[04:18] <eseven73> !minimal
[04:19] <radlipat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/86774/
[04:19] <radlipat> this is what he said
[04:19] <berilio> i need some help, when i try to run pychess i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/86772/
[04:20] <radlipat> how do i register with the nickserver??
[04:20] <Bsims> kupesoft: try googling for multiple unetbootlin will give you a start
[04:20] <radlipat> [22:17] [505] FloodBot1 is blocking messages from unidentified users.  You must register and identify with NickServ before talking to this user.
[04:20] <rashire>  /ns help register
[04:20] <halycon> I have a Sony laptop with a recovery partition on it and I wanted to use Gparted to delete the partition and then add the space to my main partition? Has anyone had any experience doing this before? Both partitions are NTFS
[04:20] <radlipat> kk ty
[04:21] <kupesoft> Bsims: danke :)
[04:21] <Bsims> How do I move my amarok db and collection to a new drive without having to futz with sqllite
[04:21]  * Bsims would love to meet the person who decided to encode uuids in a sql database for tracking music, then beat him
[04:21] <radlipat> lol
[04:21] <usser> halycon, it will most likely fail since recovery partition is usually the first one at the beggining of the disk and goes before the real partitions and as far as i know ext3 doesnt support adding space to the beggining only to the end
[04:22] <usser> Bsims, just copy ~/.amarok folder
[04:22] <halycon> usser, I have Ubuntu installed using Wubi so I cant remember what filesystem it is using
[04:22] <usser> Bsims, or ~/.kde/amarok
[04:23] <Bsims> usser: that doesn't work with the collection
[04:23] <CarlFK> Mimi: "GSynaptics is a GUI configuration tool for the Synaptics touchpad driver of the X server."  but there are 3 or 4 of them, and they are all different.  i never figured out which one I liked best
[04:23] <usser> halycon, none of the systems support it as far as i know, but i may be wrong
[04:23] <berilio> i cant run pychess! http://paste.ubuntu.com/86772/
[04:23] <sherl0ck> can linux be setup to log into a windows domain through Gdm?
[04:23] <usser> sherl0ck, yes its possible
[04:23] <radlipat> ok i typed  /ns help register and i didnt get a website or anything to register with does it auto do it??????????????
[04:23] <sherl0ck> berilio, u can use gnome-chess
[04:23] <usser> sherl0ck, but why would you, most benefits of AD dont work on ubuntu, e.g. group policies etc
[04:24] <bazhang> radlipat, please ask in #freenode not here
[04:24] <PriceChild> radlipat: nickserv will have sent you a message, can you see anything in any of your windows?
[04:24] <Decepticon> how can i mount a dir to another dir? i want to sudo mount /media/Slave/oldhdd/ /media/OldHDD, where /media/Slave is a different hdd, and the dir oldhdd inside it is a backup. i want the backup dir to appear as mounted to /media/OldHDD
[04:24] <berilio> sherl0ck, i want to use pychess it was running few hours ago..
[04:24] <sherl0ck> right, i never would, trying to get a admin to setup linux at my local library
[04:24] <radlipat> yes
[04:24] <sherl0ck> to promote it
[04:25] <usser> Decepticon, use ln. ie ln -s /media/Slave/oldhdd /media/OldHDD
[04:25] <sherl0ck> berilio, aptitude reinstall pychess
[04:25] <Bsims> Decepticon: mount /dev/sdx1/path/to/file /media/OldHDD
[04:25] <D3RGPS31> sherl0ck, i brought that up to one of my school administrators; a year later the district is laughing at the idea :/
[04:25] <usser> Decepticon, make sure to delete /media/OldHDD before you do that command, ln -s is going to create a link with same name
[04:25] <radlipat> but message said i need password and stuff but didnt say how to make one
[04:26] <Decepticon> hm ok
[04:26] <sherl0ck> D3RGPS31, yea schools r tought cookie, cuz they get funding for prompting Microsoft junk
[04:26] <radlipat> lol
[04:26] <D3RGPS31> sherl0ck we're a mix of macintosh and microsoft :/
[04:27] <D3RGPS31> not a single linux computer in the entire city D: (of the district)
[04:27] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:28] <patspam> hi all. how can i look up what configure flags are used to build an official ubuntu package? (in particular imagemagick)
[04:28] <corinth> I just upgraded from a fresh 8.04 install to 8.10. On boot, I get this error message, and my CD drive doesn't mount:
[04:28] <sherl0ck> yea it frustrating to see the greatness of linux, and all around you see windows
[04:28] <corinth> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:28] <bazhang> !offtopic
[04:29] <bazhang> sherl0ck, this is for ubuntu support, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[04:29] <sherl0ck> right, my bad - i get on a roll sometimes
[04:29] <sherl0ck> cya
[04:29] <rashire> i can't get my wireless towork consistantly, sometimes i bootup and it works, others it always drops the connection. how can i fix it??
[04:29] <sherl0ck> exit
[04:29] <rashire> oh, and 8.10
[04:29] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 rashire
[04:29] <onetinsoldier> patspam: i would download the 'src' deb.. install it, and look in there... look at the configure script or the Makefile, or perhaps at something in the 'debian' directory
[04:30] <rashire> thnx bazhang lemme read it
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> patspam: there may be another way... hang on
[04:30] <lander2k2> how do I get a raid partition to automatically mount when Ubuntu boots up?
[04:30] <nbeebo> how do i install extra gnome panel applets?
[04:30] <patspam> onetinsoldier: thanks. i got as far as downloading the src deb. now just trying to find where the configure options are
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> patspam: roger
[04:31] <patspam> e.g. the ones that the deb package is hardwired to use
[04:31] <detox420> anyone here familiar with vsftpd
[04:31] <detox420> im having trouble configuring the file
[04:31] <detox420> i want to deny access to certain directories
[04:32] <nbeebo> how do i install extra gnome panel applets?
[04:32] <fwaokda> anyone know the correct port number to use with evolution for: smtp.gmail.com ?
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> patspam: what if the name of it? i'll take a look too
[04:33] <frank__lin> Ubuntu 8.10 guest in my vmware6.5 don't support copy and past between host and guest?
[04:33] <patspam> imagemagick
[04:33] <frank__lin> vm tools installed.
[04:33] <detox420> try vmware-server the older version
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> patspam: ok.
[04:34] <detox420> i need to configure my vsftpd conf file to deny access to certain directories
[04:34] <nbeebo> whats a command to lock screen?
[04:34] <tritium> nbeebo: Ctrl-Alt-L
[04:34] <radlipat>  what is konsole comand for installing xubuntu???
[04:34] <frank__lin> anyone used Ubuntu 8.10 in vmware6.5 ?
[04:34] <nbeebo> tritium, would be nice with terminal command but thanks!
[04:34] <detox420> deny_file={/media/Music2/Backup,/media/Music2/My\ Downloadss,Password\ Valut\  and\ Address\ Book,/media/Music2/Photoshop\ Top\ Secret,/media/Music2/RECYCLER,/media/Music2/System\ Volume\ Information,/media/Music2/virus,/media/Music2/ubuntu\ backup,*.html,*.php,*.bak,*.exe,*.exer}
[04:34] <detox420> is that correct?
[04:35] <therealnanotube> hey... anyone familiar with ktorrent? i'm getting a lot of "authentication failure" in the logs, wondering what's up with that? my ports are forwarded, and i have double-checked by ssh-ing to a remote server, and then telnetting to my ip/torrentport. is there any reason authentication failures should be so frequent?
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> radlipat: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
 apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <lander2k2> how do I get a raid partition to automatically mount when Ubuntu boots up?
[04:36] <D3RGPS31> or aptitude, aptitude is better
[04:36] <HenryHeron> Hello, I added the Ubuntu 8.10 "live CD" to my synaptic package manager... but cannot get it to recognize it for a whole system (from Ubuntu 8.04.1) upgrade. Any clues or directions would be appreciated.
[04:37] <patspam> onetinsoldier: i think i found it in the debian subfolder
[04:37] <onetinsoldier> patspam: ahh, cool
[04:37] <patspam> thansk for your help!
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> patspam: you're welcome :-)
[04:38] <aprilhare> hello. I'm experimenting with IPv6 and using Hurricane Electric's IPv6 tunnelling service. I want to configure it for use under Ubuntu Hardy. There are example configurations for net-tools and route2 - which one is best for Ubuntu?
[04:38] <frank__lin> anyone used Ubuntu 8.10 in vmware6.5 ?
[04:38] <nbeebo> how can i get menu when clicking desktop? i want metacity as window manager please...
[04:38] <root> ei
[04:38] <nbeebo> are u the mighty root? lol
[04:38] <nbeebo> oh ok lol
[04:39] <Decepticon> how do i get a shortcut on the desktop that leads to /media/OldHDD that has a icon that looks like the already included by default icon on the desktop of the 'decepticon's home' shortcut
[04:39] <N3ts> rs
[04:39] <N3ts> alguem sabe qual comando deleta diretorios pelo terminal?
[04:39] <aprilhare> you know root has a rather interesting double meaning in australian english - please watch your language
[04:39] <weternal> hey
[04:39] <nbeebo> decepticon, try right click on desktop and create launcher, and i think u know what to do from there...
[04:39] <weternal> I'm looking for a hand scanning a document in ubuntu
[04:39] <detox420> anyone familliar with vsftpd i need to configure my conf file to deny access to certain directories this is what i have so far deny_file={/media/Music2/Backup,/media/Music2/My\ Downloadss,Password\ Valut\  and\ Address\ Book,/media/Music2/Photoshop\ Top\ Secret,/media/Music2/RECYCLER,/media/Music2/System\ Volume\ Information,/media/Music2/virus,/media/Music2/ubuntu\ backup,*.html,*.php,*.bak,*.exe,*.exer}
[04:39] <therealnanotube> N3ts: "rm"
[04:40] <therealnanotube> N3ts: and "rmdir"
[04:40] <nbeebo> !esp
[04:40] <nbeebo> !es
[04:40] <meareweird1> hi
[04:41] <ttmrichter> Does anybody know off-hand how I can quickly figure out which kernel I've got active?
[04:41] <therealnanotube> ttmrichter: uname -a
[04:41] <qrikko> N3ts ou se você quer deleta tudo "rm -rd dir_nome" (sorry for my bad portuguese :P)
[04:41] <ttmrichter> Thanks.  That's the one I was looking for therealnantube.
[04:41] <Justin_Myers> hallo
[04:41] <detox420> anyone point me in the direction where i can find help for vsftpd
[04:41] <weternal> I've got an old HP psc 950 that does scanning copying faxing and printing, and ubuntu recognizes it.  But it's reading an error when I tried to scan.  I checked the forums, and I found an article, but it gave me a command that terminal didn't recognize
[04:41] <weternal> I'm running 8.10
[04:42] <therealnanotube> detox420: "man vsftpd" ?
[04:42] <detox420> yea
[04:42] <wjz> 好
[04:42] <detox420> ive read the man page
[04:42] <meareweird1> I recently installed java plugin  then uninstalled gdm to start without x but then my volume control said it did not have gstreamer plugins installed
[04:42] <detox420> thats how i found out about deny_access
[04:42] <meareweird1> i have tried reinstalling but to no avail
[04:42] <detox420> do you know anything about the correct syntax
[04:42] <weternal> hey does anyone know how to configure a scanner under ubuntu?
[04:43] <meareweird1> my sound stopped working
[04:43] <russ_> can someone tell me how to install songbird?
[04:43] <therealnanotube> detox420: sorry man, don't know anything about it...
[04:43] <detox420> its cool
[04:43] <detox420> sudo apt-get install songbird
[04:44] <detox420> or get the .deb file or .rpm from the officail website
[04:44] <Munchy> o.o
[04:44] <weternal> @ russ go to getsongbird.com
[04:44] <Pici> !rpm
[04:44] <weternal> does anyone know how to get a scanner configured under ubuntu?
[04:44] <russ_> weternal: I did and I downloaded it but the readme does not have install notes
[04:45] <eseven73> anyone here use BasKet? I cant seem to find out how to set the default font to something greater than 10, and there's like almost zero help anywhere for it.
[04:45] <therealnanotube> weternal: try applications -> graphics -> xsane image scanner ?
[04:45] <Munchy> Can someone explain the difference between 64 bit and 32 bit processing?
[04:45] <Munchy> I don't get it
[04:45] <corinth> Error when trying to mount CD at boot after upgrade from 8.04-8.10. "DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[04:45] <joeb3_> Munchy, 32 bits.  (I could not resist.. sorry.)
[04:45] <weternal> @the realnanotube ok
[04:45] <detox420> 64 is 64 bits up and down
[04:45] <Eko_Hermiyanto> I have a problem with SOX, how to make channel and rate same for two audio files so I can mix them into one file?
[04:46] <therealnanotube> Munchy: tried wikipedia? :)
[04:46] <weternal> @therealnanotube yup that's working thanks
[04:46] <therealnanotube> weternal: cool :)
[04:47] <Munchy> Yeah I tried google and wikipedia and it just says "64 bit means it can handle LARGER FILES OH YEAH!!!" does that mean 64 bit takes a good computer to use?
[04:47] <detox420> 64 bit taks a 64 bit board
[04:47] <detox420> to use
[04:47] <therealnanotube> hey... anyone familiar with ktorrent? i'm getting a lot of "authentication failure" in the logs, wondering what's up with that? my ports are forwarded, and i have double-checked by ssh-ing to a remote server, and then telnetting to my ip/torrentport. is there any reason authentication failures should be so frequent?
[04:47] <solid_liq> !ping
[04:48] <Munchy> Are you trying to steal something Mr. therealnanotube?
[04:48] <detox420> lmao
[04:48] <eseven73> lol
[04:48] <detox420> Torrentz Stealing No way
[04:48] <therealnanotube> Munchy: haha, ... just ubuntu isos >_>...
[04:48] <halycon> Is there anyway to install specific codecs in Ubuntu? I have some video files that use some obscure audio codec so whenever I play the videos I cannot hear the audio from them
[04:49] <detox420> look in your add remove programs
[04:49] <detox420> i forget the name of the program
[04:49] <detox420> but you can get teh codecs in there
[04:49] <eseven73> !codecs
[04:49] <therealnanotube> halycon: you could try getting w32codecs from medibuntu, that packages has just about anything.
[04:49] <Munchy> Have you tried the synaptic package manager you have?
[04:49] <weternal> what's pnm file format?
[04:49] <weternal> if I sent that to someone running XP would it be readable?
[04:50] <detox420> anyone familliar with vsftpd i need to configure my conf file to deny access to certain directories this is what i have so far deny_file={/media/Music2/Backup,/media/Music2/My\ Downloadss,Password\ Valut\  and\ Address\ Book,/media/Music2/Photoshop\ Top\ Secret,/media/Music2/RECYCLER,/media/Music2/System\ Volume\ Information,/media/Music2/virus,/media/Music2/ubuntu\ backup,*.html,*.php,*.bak,*.exe,*.exer}
[04:50] <maco> weternal: png definitely would
[04:50] <maco> weternal: not sure about pnm
[04:50] <weternal> @ maco can I just change it before I save?
[04:50] <irpapabear> test
[04:50] <therealnanotube> irpapabear: test back ;)
[04:51] <irpapabear> lol
[04:51] <weternal> @maco I mean, could I change the extension as I'm saving it?
[04:51] <maco> weternal: depends on the app
[04:51] <Munchy> Why are tarballs called... tarballs? I understand they're compressed and all but tar? really? why tar and not like squish?
[04:51] <qrikko> weternal, I think there is a tool in libpng "pnm2png"
[04:52] <qrikko> weternal, but I am guessing gimp could handle it no?
[04:52] <maco> qrikko, weternal: yes, gimp does both formats
[04:52] <therealnanotube> Munchy: tar = tape archive, iirc (from back in the old days)
[04:52] <bazhang> Munchy, good question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:52] <maco> Munchy: tar = Tape ARchive
[04:52] <Pici> Munchy: its more of a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic, but its Tape ARchive.
[04:52] <weternal> @ qrikko maco thanks
[04:52] <maco> Munchy: from the days when backups were always done to tape drives
[04:53] <Munchy> oh... I thought Tar was reffering to like... streat tar because its thick and compressed
[04:53] <maco> Munchy: there's a command called simply "ar" as well
[04:53] <weternal> @all thanks for the help you guys are lifesavers :)
[04:54] <weternal> I'm applying to law school, and I needed to get these things scanned
[04:54] <Munchy> I helped the most!
[04:54] <qrikko> maco, does "jar" have anything to do with that "ar" algorithm?
[04:54] <maco> qrikko: Java ARchive
[04:54] <qrikko> maco, ah of course :P
[04:55] <qrikko> maco, thanks for clearing :)
[04:55] <maco> qrikko: but "ar" is its own command and i believe the files end in .ar ...there's also "rar" if you remember WinRaR
[04:55] <cobra-the-joker_>  
[04:55] <cobra-the-joker_>  
[04:55] <cobra-the-joker_>  
[04:55] <FloodBot1> cobra-the-joker_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <Neurologic> Question: in Add/Remove Applications, I have a grayed out kde4 and it says "KDE4 cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."...uhh, why? Kubuntu live CDs work O_o
[04:56] <red_> are there latex users here?
[04:56] <therealnanotube> red_: yes :)
[04:56] <red_> hi :)
[04:56] <red_>  if i have equation on two lines how do i put tag exactly in between of them?
[04:56] <nbeebo> how can i do so ubunt spellchecks both swedish and english at the same time? if its possible
[04:56] <Munchy> Whoa... I looked up bit on wikipedia and i finally understand why the little switch on the back of our really old computers has a 1 and a 0 on it! :D
[04:56] <Munchy> LEARNING RULES
[04:56] <Finnish> Whats the latest repo build of VLC on 8.04?
[04:57] <bazhang> Munchy, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[04:57] <Munchy> fine!
[04:57] <maco> red_: put a tag?
[04:57] <maco> red_: what do you mean? a caption?
[04:57] <therealnanotube> red_: use "align" from ams-latex package instead of eqnarray (iirc)
[04:58] <red_> number after equation
[04:58] <red_> i use align
[04:58] <nbeebo> where do i download more applets to gnome-paneL?
[04:59] <rathel> How do I type special characters like the degree symbol?
[04:59] <Neurologic> In Add/Remove Applications, I have a grayed out kde4 and it says "KDE4 cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type."...why? Kubuntu LiveCDs work on my laptop
[04:59] <red_> and i split equation onto 2 lines (it is too long for 1 line). i need number of this equation to be displayed symmetricaly with respect to these 2 lines
[04:59] <maco> red_: are you using \begin{equation} or \[ and \]?
[04:59] <qrikko> rathel, depend on your keyboard layout in mine (Swedish) I have it on AltGR+shift+0
[04:59] <red_> i use \begin{align}
[04:59] <maco> red_: oh, its one very long equation?
[05:00] <red_> right!
[05:00] <nbeebo> rathel, theres a program somewhere in the menu, maybe accesories
[05:00] <maco> rathel: if you use the US international with altgr dead keys, it's right-alt + shift + 0
[05:00] <nbeebo> rathel, theres also a gnome-panel applet for special symbols
[05:01] <rathel> I'm using fluxbox not gnome btw.
[05:02] <red_> so? anyone?
[05:02] <nbeebo> rathel, uhm then im pretty sure u need a program like that
[05:02] <RonDutt> Anyone here have experience with OpenVPN and gaming?
[05:02] <exilio5> hi all - trying to run a java applet on localhost with firefox - i have javascript enabled, fyi - cud someone help plz
[05:02] <maco> red_: how did you break it onto two lines?
[05:03] <rathel> nbeebo, I've been looking around but I didn't find much.
[05:03] <maco> exilio5: uh, javascript has nothing at all to do with java. er, except 4 letters.
[05:03] <luddite> rathel : If you are running debian or ubuntu and don't have a menu after installing, run `sudo update-menus'. If that still doesn't work, remove your ~/.fluxbox/menu and restart fluxbox.
[05:03] <luddite> rathel do both
[05:03] <luddite> in that order
[05:03] <therealnanotube> red_: see amsldoc.pdf, page 5-6. use the "split" with a "label"
[05:04] <nbeebo> rathel, try in terminal, apt-cache search "character map" or something like that... then download and run
[05:04] <rathel> nbeebo, I have the charmap but I can't find the degree symbol.. lol
[05:05] <therealnanotube> hey... anyone familiar with ktorrent? i'm getting a lot of "authentication failure" in the logs, wondering what's up with that? my ports are forwarded, and i have double-checked by ssh-ing to a remote server, and then telnetting to my ip/torrentport. is there any reason authentication failures should be so frequent?
[05:05] <nbeebo> rathel, maybe there isnt one for ur font??
[05:05] <red_> thanks all
[05:05] <nbeebo> np my pleasure
[05:06] <maco> red_: i'm asking bgamari for you
[05:06] <therealnanotube> rathel: degree symbol is under "common"
[05:06] <x_O> how do you add a new server to xchat?
[05:06] <maco> red_: i know he's in here, but i'm talking to him already so...
[05:07] <red_> ok
[05:07] <rathel> luddite, I restored the default menu (I was using a custom one) What am I looking for? lol
[05:07] <red_> I am still here, thanks
[05:07] <therealnanotube> rathel: you might have an easier time if you went to search -> find -> check the "search in chacacter details" and type in "degree". (which is what i did :) )
[05:07] <x_O> how do you add a new server to xchat?
[05:07] <rathel> therealnanotube, Ahh Common, thanks.
[05:07] <maco> red_: and he's better at LaTeX than me. what do you have on your align environment?
[05:07] <therealnanotube> rathel: np :)
[05:07] <SwArcher> Hi!
[05:07] <therealnanotube> red_: did you try the split?
[05:08] <maco> red_: oh. er, nevermind. he says that's more advanced LaTeX than he knows too
[05:08] <x_O> evidently you cant add new servers to xchat
[05:08] <x_O> what a shitty client
[05:08] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:08] <red_> ok :) thanks anyway
[05:08] <SwArcher> Does the Ubuntu Live instance and the installer share program files?
[05:08] <maco> x_O: yes, you can. its somewhere in the preferences
[05:08] <x_O> there are no preferences
[05:08] <x_O> err
[05:08] <therealnanotube> x_O: what are you talking about? i've added new servers to xchat...
[05:08] <x_O> nevermind found them
[05:08] <eseven73> theres not much xchat can not do,
[05:08] <x_O> looked over them
[05:09] <bazhang> x_O, please watch the language
[05:09] <x_O> bah!
[05:09] <SwArcher> x_O: GTalk and Y! have web versions
[05:09] <therealnanotube> x_O: edit -> preferences -> networks
[05:09] <Decepticon> what are default options in /etc/fstab ?
[05:09] <SwArcher> x_O: you can just use the browser to access them
[05:09] <halycon> Does anyone know where I have to install the binary codecs for mplayer in Intrepid Ibex? The location it has in the readme file for Mplayer doesnt exist
[05:09] <SwArcher> x_O: If you're looking for some other chat services, sorry I just joined the channel :-)
[05:10] <eseven73> xchat is extremly powerful, it just takes a bit of tweaking
[05:10] <Decepticon> what is the default optins in /etc/fstab ? rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async ?
[05:11] <Decepticon> what is the default optins in /etc/fstab ? rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async ? what if i want to make it so it does mount --bind ? do i do rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async,bind ?
[05:11] <fryguy> Decepticon: the default is "defaults" and varies based on the filesystem being used
[05:11] <Decepticon> fryguy what does 'defaults' correspond to
[05:11] <exilio5> maco:I have java and javascript enabled on firefox - but can't run jmath (for SAGE) on localhost
[05:11] <Decepticon> does defaults coresspond to rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async
[05:11] <fryguy> Decepticon: like i just said, it varies based on the filesystem being used
[05:11] <Decepticon> fryguy how do i make it do mount --bind inside /etc/fstab
[05:11] <x_O> too bad you cant change the font
[05:12] <eseven73> yes you can
[05:12] <fryguy> Decepticon: try making the filesystem type bind
[05:12] <Decepticon> why the filesystem
[05:12] <Decepticon> wouldnt it be options
[05:12] <eseven73> x_O: you really need to look in preferences a bit more
[05:12] <fryguy> Decepticon: no
[05:12] <fryguy> Decepticon: bind is rebinding an existing mount to another location
[05:12] <x_O> ah there it is
[05:12] <x_O> hidden way below
[05:12] <maco> SwArcher: xchat is for IRC
[05:12] <Decepticon> fryguy ok i iwill give it a try
[05:13] <eseven73> x_O: also type /set theres 4 million settings there alone (have fun reading all that)
[05:13] <Decepticon> fryguy, is this ok /media/Slave/oldhdd /media/OldHDD bind defaults 0 0
[05:13] <fryguy> Decepticon: try it and see
[05:13] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:14] <theacolyte> sorry for the potentially really stupid question, but upgrading server 8.04 to 8.10 a good idea, or fresh install?
[05:14] <Ghordan> have a big problem =( how i set the path for grub to install it on a usb stick?
[05:14] <fryguy> theacolyte: should be fine
[05:14] <theacolyte> got it, thanks
[05:14] <A> buenas noches
[05:14] <fryguy> Ghordan: the same way you would have it install to any other drive
[05:14] <fryguy> !usb
[05:15] <matthew12> (I'm using Hardy): Is there an applet like Windows Sidebar in Ubuntu? If not, is there a "sticky note" applet where I can have "sticky" notes on the desktop?
[05:15] <fryguy> matthew12: gdesklets
[05:15] <eseven73> tomboy notes matthew12
[05:15] <fryguy> Decepticon: like i already said, try it and see
[05:15] <fryguy> whoops
[05:15] <gaintsura> command to run the gnome-session dialog?
[05:15] <eseven73> kjots, basket, two other really good note taking appz
[05:16] <qrikko> gaintsura, gnome-session-properties
[05:16] <matthew12> I can't figure out how to have Tomboy notes stay on the screen...what I'm looking for is something that mimics actually sticking a piece of paper to the desktop with a note on it...only it doesnt get in the way of the screen
[05:16] <Decepticon> fryguy that did not work
[05:17] <rathel> Just upgraded Ubuntu and the new version of Ubufox and Tabmixplus Firefox extension still have problems.
[05:17] <matthew12> thanks fryguy and eseven73 for replying
[05:17] <eseven73> np
[05:17] <IdleOne> matthew12, right click on the top panel and then Add to panel look for sticky notes
[05:17] <eseven73> matthew12: you could always do 'apt-cache search notes' in a terminal
[05:18] <matthew12> Idleone, thanks, sorry I didnt see that earlier...that will work for now. Thanks again.
[05:19] <fryguy> Decepticon: specify none as the filesystem, and bind as the option:  /a /b none bind
[05:19] <IdleOne> matthew12, that should be of help until you can find something you like. search Synaptic package manager
[05:19] <matthew12> idleone
[05:19] <matthew12> ;thanks
[05:19] <user01> hey is there a program equivalent to dreamweaver in linux?
[05:19] <Decepticon> fryguy ok ill try that
[05:20] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:21] <theacolyte> eesh, my esxi install didn't like that upgrade
[05:21] <Anacranom> fryguy, have you run the memtest?
[05:22] <fryguy> Anacranom: yes I have, the machine functions just fine with other operating systems (including a different distro of linux, freebsd, windows xp, sun xvm server, and windows vista)
[05:22] <Anacranom> fryguy, just a thought, hrm...
[05:23] <pr0cess0r> hi all i need to know the name of the module for my network card  is there a site for this ?
[05:23] <knoppix> no sound on realtek alc 653 plz help
[05:23] <fryguy> pr0cess0r: googling the name of your network card and the word linux or ubuntu will usually tell you, lspci -vvv should give you meaningful input as well
[05:24] <Anacranom> fryguy, how did you install? full-guided, manual, etc.   ?
[05:24] <Decepticon> fryguy ok that worked
[05:24] <fryguy> Anacranom: i'm trying to install from the standard gui desktop
[05:24] <pr0cess0r> i will boot a live cd to test
[05:24] <Serraphyn> Anyone know of an issue with V-Gear webcams and ubuntu?
[05:24] <pr0cess0r> its for my aspire one
[05:24] <pr0cess0r> i need to add the module to ltsp
[05:24] <Anacranom> fryguy, from live cd then?
[05:24] <fryguy> Anacranom: right
[05:25] <Anacranom> fryguy, have you tried the alternate cd?
[05:25] <ubuntu_> having a little trouble with an install here
[05:25] <bruenig> hmm
[05:25] <ubuntu_> during boot-up, I get this error: 10.365722] request_module: runaway loop modprobe bin fmt-464c
[05:25] <fryguy> Anacranom: no i'm trying to identify the driver issue that exists on the livecd with my configuration.
[05:27] <pr0cess0r> ﻿lspci -vvv  is not working in fedora
[05:27] <ubuntu_> anybody?
[05:27] <fryguy> pr0cess0r: this is ubuntu support, not fedora
[05:27] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m767bffcb <-- how do I get that to run my webcam?
[05:27] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:precise ?
[05:27] <ubuntu_> during boot-up, I get this error: 10.365722] request_module: runaway loop modprobe bin fmt-464c
[05:27] <DasEI1> pre*
[05:27] <pr0cess0r> i know but  now i have fedora to test on my  thin client
[05:28] <ubuntu_> I installed using a kubuntu livecd
[05:28] <pr0cess0r> to find the network card model and add it to my ubuntu ltsp
[05:28] <fryguy> pr0cess0r: so then ask in #fedora
[05:28] <ubuntu_> over a preexisting installation
[05:28] <ubuntu_> I kept all the partitions the way they were and just installed Intrepid over that
[05:29] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:29] <qrikko> fryguy, does the installation work "ok"? and then after gdm you don't get anything?
[05:29] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:installer verified ?
[05:29] <fryguy> qrikko: no, the installation gives me an unresponsive desktop, and i can not click on the install icon
[05:29] <fryguy> qrikko: nor can i do any of the other things I mentioned
[05:29] <ubuntu_> how do you mean verified? It said inatallation was complete, then instructed me to eject the disk and press enter to restart
[05:30] <qrikko> fryguy, ah ok a bit earlier then I hoped :/
[05:30] <Outlander> will rsync -avz do a "full mirror" including deleting files on the destination of they are not in the source? or will it be non-destructive unless I add extra delete switches?
[05:30] <Decepticon> how to launch avi files with vlc in full screen upon double click of said avi file
[05:30] <bruenig> you can't
[05:31] <Decepticon> ive done it before
[05:31] <Decepticon> i dont remmeber how
[05:31] <bruenig> naw
[05:31] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:checked bootmedia for defects ?
[05:31] <Anacranom> fryguy, is this a desktop or laptop, what version- 8.04 or 8.10? ,
[05:31] <bruenig> also what is double click?
[05:31] <fryguy> Anacranom: desktop, basic specs listed in the message, 8.10
[05:31] <ubuntu_> Oh I see what you mean by "verified"
[05:31] <ubuntu_> did I verify the installation media
[05:31] <Serraphyn> So anyone got any tips on how to get this camera working?
[05:32] <ubuntu_> NO, I didn't do that
[05:32] <CheesyWeasel> !tar
[05:32] <fryguy> Decepticon: vlc --fullscreen will start vlc in fullscreen mode
[05:32] <andRa_uBUntu> woy,,,,
[05:32] <bazhang> !id | andRa_uBUntu
[05:32] <Decepticon> fryguy yes thats true, but my question is how to adapt that so that double clicking a avi file in gnome nautilus will open the file in vlc in fullscreen
[05:32] <ubuntu_> so I ought to reboot to the livecd and then verify it?
[05:32] <CheesyWeasel> how to i install a program thats packed in a .tar.gz file?
[05:33] <andRa_uBUntu> opensuse
[05:33] <fryguy> Decepticon: write a wrapper script that runs that command instead of vlc, see if there is an xdefault or rc config that will do it for you
[05:33] <bazhang> #suse andRa_uBUntu
[05:33] <fryguy> CheesyWeasel: take the time to find a proper package of it
[05:33] <CheesyWeasel> fryguy: ha. im serious.
[05:33] <maccam-sager1> i have a really weird networking issue. dns lookups don't work. except for some reason i can reach google.com and that's it. any ideas?
[05:33] <fryguy> CheesyWeasel: if it's source code, then typically tar xzf; cd to the new dir, ./configure, make, sudo make install
[05:33] <fryguy> CheesyWeasel: so am i
[05:34] <ivo> hi. using 8.10, how do i edit the xorg.conf? i mean, now it has some defaults only, not the regular stuff one can find in xorg.conf. i.e. how can i change the video driver, tec?
[05:34] <cris_core> I have had a problem with the repeat keys function not responding to changes. Repeat activates to easily and i can't change it. I found an article on the web site that says i can solve the problem by editing the rc.local file. How do i edit this file. When i try it says i don't have permissions.
[05:34] <andRa_uBUntu> ubuntu-id
[05:34] <Anacranom> fryguy, i dont know if this will help you, but did me,,, on the grub menu i edited the kernel line (and later the menu.lst) ... add:  noapic apic=none  to the kernel line
[05:34] <Tyler-J-B> ok, I am having issues w/ my Microphone on Ubuntu 8.10. It is a Logitech Desktop Mic (AK5370), and I can't unmute it. when I try, it just goes back to being muted. is there any way I can fix this?
[05:34] <andRa_uBUntu> #ubuntu-id
[05:34] <fryguy> ivo: xorg.conf is located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, vi and gedit are fine text editors
[05:34] <ubuntu_> what should I do now?
[05:34] <CheesyWeasel> fryguy: yeah. there is no proper package... getdeb doesnt have the latest, even the website only provides the tarball. synaptic doesnt have it either
[05:34] <andRa_uBUntu> haloo bro,,
[05:35] <DasEI1> !who|ubuntu_
[05:35] <fryguy> CheesyWeasel: so then follow the directions on the site that you downloaded it from, or look inside of the README that's inside of your .tar.gz
[05:35] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:checked bootmedia for defects ?
[05:35] <ivo> fryguy, yes, i see the file. but it does not contain the regular stuff. even i can not see which driver it uses. so where are these settings
[05:35] <ubuntu_> let me reboot and do that
[05:35] <fryguy> ivo: you just add whatever you want to the file
[05:36] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m767bffcb <-- how do I get that to run my webcam? Please can someone give me any pointers?
[05:36] <Tyler-J-B> is there anyway I can configure ALSA to where I can unmute my USB microphone and stay unmuted?
[05:36] <fryguy> Anacranom: yes, i'm looking for a way to determine the specific problem I am having
[05:36] <ivo> fryguy, even change the driver? and if i'm wrong, deleting the wrong line will restore the defaults, right?
[05:36] <nimbus> I seem to be having some hard drive issues with 8.10 with some lockups, grub error 18 on some boots and 1/o errors. any ideas how to troubleshoot this?
[05:36] <fryguy> ivo: sure
[05:36] <deadkode_> i notice ubunto, runs laggy on my system, when xp pro runs fast, is this because no proper device drivers are loaded. if so where would i get them, for intel 845G chipset, dell dimension 2400
[05:36] <ubuntu_> brb
[05:36] <CheesyWeasel> forget it
[05:37] <deadkode_> anyone?
[05:37] <ivo> fryguy, i'm reading this thread. do u have any idea what exactly need to be changed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=849994&highlight=855gm+svideo
[05:37] <cris_core> Hello everyone. I have a problem and would appreciate any help. The repeat keys function is not responding to changes from the dialog box. Repeat activates to easily and i can't change it. I found an article on the web site that says i can solve the problem by editing the rc.local file. How do i edit this file. When i try it says i don't have permissions.
[05:37] <fryguy> ivo: no
[05:37] <RonDutt> Anyone know of a peer 2 peer based VPN solution? OpenVPN requires a server to stay up 24/7 for the tunnels to remain active, I would like for clients to still talk to each other even if the server goes down. This also reduces latency which is my aim (main purpose: gaming).
[05:37] <fryguy> RonDutt: hamachi
[05:38] <RonDutt> fryguy except hamachi =( Not too kosher with the "room" limits and it has issues with games like Warcraft 3
[05:38] <Anacranom> fryguy, well, wouldnt hurt to try that and see, hope it helps, sorry i dont know more
[05:38] <Re|ent|ess> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGHYN48_7fA
[05:38] <huxl3y> What was the name of the Ubuntu channel that has a app voting system?
[05:39] <frame08> hi
[05:39] <bazhang> #ubuntu-bots
[05:39] <fryguy> Anacranom: it is going to help.  i'm trying to figure out what caused it to stop working in 8.10 as opposed to 8.04
[05:39] <frame08> hi
[05:39] <bazhang> Re|ent|ess, dont paste here
[05:39] <Re|ent|ess> I didnt paste
[05:39] <Re|ent|ess> IT was oneline
[05:39] <Re|ent|ess> 1
[05:40] <nimbus> I just typed gedit /var/log/messages and got "bus error". am I in trouble?
[05:40] <bazhang> its spam Re|ent|ess
[05:40] <cris_core> Hello everyone. How can I get root access and edit my etc/rc.local file.
[05:40] <Re|ent|ess> col abuse bro
[05:40] <Anacranom> fryguy, i'm with ya there bro, thats why i'm still on 8.04 ;-)
[05:40] <frame08> hi
[05:40] <supertanker> Hey, are there any good guides for using Audacity to restore recordings made from old LP records
[05:40] <fryguy> nimbus: you likely have failing hardware
[05:40] <supertanker> ?
[05:40] <nimbus> Already? I just put this machine together.
[05:40] <wibrainusernumbe> hola have a question i am new to ubuntu and trying to run exotic hardware
[05:40] <joeb3_> cris_core, sudo vi /etc/rc.local
[05:40] <wibrainusernumbe> how can i download the original 8.04 release
[05:40] <IdleOne> Re|ent|ess, this is a support channel not a place for you to paste random links to useless crap
[05:41] <fryguy> Anacranom: works fine after it's installed, i'm trying to find out how to gather enough information to file a good bug report
[05:41] <DasEI1>  wibrainusernumbe:ubuntu.com
[05:41] <Re|ent|ess> HOW DO YOU SUPPORT A FAIL FORK OF A FAIL LINUX BASE
[05:41] <fryguy> wibrainusernumbe: the download links on ubuntu.com still provide direct links to the LTS release
[05:41] <bazhang> Re|ent|ess, please stop now
[05:41] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m2760b820 <-- can someone please help me get this webcam (V-Gear Talkcam Pro) working with my linux Ubuntu 8.04 box? PLEASE
[05:41] <Re|ent|ess> NETBSD 4 LYFE
[05:41] <ardchoille> !caps | Re|ent|ess
[05:41] <wibrainusernumbe> no not the LTS; the original based on 2.6.24-16
[05:42] <cris_core> Ok I did that, now what?
[05:42] <wibrainusernumbe> I am trying to install Ubuntu to my Wibrain UMPC, but cant get the WiFi drivers working with 8.04 LTS, drivers cant work
[05:43] <EruditeHermit> hey, if I am unable to boot into X, is there a way I can get network-manager to connect to the network from a console?
[05:43] <wibrainusernumbe> The drivers havent been compiled for 8.10
[05:43] <Anacranom> fryguy, ahhh, ok, well i cant help there, i'm sticking with 8.04 for a bit longer
[05:43] <joeb3_> cris_core, that will let you edit as root.  If you want a root shell, use sudo su -
[05:44] <fryguy> Re|ent|ess: lol
[05:44] <Re|ent|ess> :3
[05:44] <cris_core> joeb3_: does it let me edit from the teminal or what. I am new to ubuntu. what does root shell mean. Is that from the GUI?
[05:45] <qrikko> cris_core, and if you aren't used to vi you can use nano or gedit or something. you run it the same way: "sudo nano /file" or "sudo gedit /file" edit, save done.. kind ot
[05:45] <ardchoille> !gksudo | cris_core
[05:45] <qrikko> cris_core, use gedit in that case it's gui based and easy to use
[05:45] <ardchoille> !gksudo > qrikko
[05:45] <wibrainusernumbe> how can i download ubuntu 8.04 with the 2.6.24-16 kernel
[05:46] <qrikko> ubottu, sorry yes
[05:46] <evilGUI> I never knew to use gksudo
[05:46] <zanberdo> what is the default web browser for gnome?
[05:46] <Serraphyn> So there is no one here that has setup a webcam before?
[05:46] <fryguy> wibrainusernumbe: download 8.04, and then install/compile whatever kernel you want
[05:46] <ardchoille> zanberdo: firefox
[05:46] <ubuntu_> no errors on the media
[05:47] <DasEI1> !who | ubuntu_
[05:47] <zanberdo> does gnome install an alternative?
[05:47] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: have a particular difficulty, am using a live usb edition on exotic hardware
[05:47] <ardchoille> zanberdo: there are other browsers in the repos
[05:48] <ubuntu_> I checked the livecd and it has no errors
[05:48] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:please repeat with nick, or else I miss your text
[05:48] <ubuntu_> when I try to boot to the hard drive, I stioll get the same error
[05:48] <JasonosaJ> zanberdo, You can use lynx, I'm pretty sure it comes installed
[05:48] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:48] <JasonosaJ> :)
[05:48] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: i can boot the OS, but cant download further updates for synaptic due to no internet connection
[05:48] <riz0n> Has anyone here used NX server on Ubuntu?
[05:48] <DasEI1> ubuntu_:are you on live now ?
[05:49] <cris_core> Thanks everyone. I got the file edited. Thanks for you help!
[05:49] <ardchoille> JasonosaJ: lynx isn't installed by default
[05:49] <fryguy> wibrainusernumbe: so then go and get a kernel that meets your needs, like i already said
[05:49] <JasonosaJ> awe, never mind then :(
[05:49] <zanberdo> I need an alternative to see if the problem I'm having with FF is universal or specific to FF, so it needs to be graphic
[05:49] <ardchoille> but it's in the repos :)
[05:49] <Serraphyn> riz0n: I do
[05:49] <ubuntu_> DasEl1: I booted off the livecd, yes
[05:49] <riz0n> Serraphyn: I have it installed on my machine, and really enjoy it. Do you know of any ways to set it up where you can have "Resumable sessions"??
[05:50] <fryguy> zanberdo: opera/galeon/flock/dillo are a couple of other browsers
[05:50] <fryguy> zanberdo: feel free to pick one
[05:50] <zanberdo> thanks
[05:50] <zanberdo> epiphany worthwhile?
[05:50] <zanberdo> mn
[05:50] <ardchoille> zanberdo: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[05:50] <zanberdo> nm
[05:50] <zanberdo> relative question
[05:50] <FloodBot2> zanberdo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:50] <Serraphyn> riz0n: when I disconnect from it, it asks to suspend or terminate,  I suspend and can comeback later with no problem
[05:50] <Sa[i]nT> help, my keyboard does'nt work on the login screen. But if I go into the console it worksto where I can do this.
[05:50] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: cant download no internet connection on the device, that is what i am trying to enable - can I use synaptic to do this with a live USB distro which i am running
[05:50] <zanberdo> stoopidbot
[05:50] <fryguy> wibrainusernumbe: you have no removable media on the machine?
[05:50] <riz0n> Serraphyn: odd, it doesn't give me that option when I disconnect.
[05:51] <ubuntu_> DasEl1: any suggestions?
[05:51] <Serraphyn> do you press the X in the corner or 'disconnect' from the menu?
[05:51] <Sa[i]nT> What's the name of the console web browser?
[05:51] <Serraphyn> riz0n: do you press the X in the corner or 'disconnect' from the menu?
[05:51] <riz0n> the X in the corner
[05:51] <Serraphyn> riz0n: wierd tahts how I do it from my vista box
[05:51] <centr0> lynx
[05:51] <riz0n> well how about that. i did it this time and it did ask me to suspend or terminate ;)
[05:51] <Neurologic> I want to remove kde4 and all it's default programs, is there a quick way to do this without having to go through all of them manually?
[05:52] <Guest70704> primera vez que entro a este chat.. alguien que hable español???
[05:52] <bazhang> !puregnome | Neurologic
[05:52] <fryguy> !puregnome
[05:52] <bazhang> !es | Guest70704
[05:52] <Serraphyn> riz0n: lol, well least some people are getting answers today, I feel as if my text isn't even been seen unless I'm doing someone else a favour
[05:52] <Neurologic> bazhang, will that remove current settings for gnome as it is now?
[05:52] <bazhang> ubuntu_, md5 the iso and reburn at very low speed
[05:53] <venezuela> primera vez que entro a este chat.. alguien que hable español???
[05:53] <riz0n> Serraphyn: i had been clicking X and it just closes out.. in the past I have been using Xvnc but it is so unreliable because after a while you try to log back into the session and all you get is "Server is already in use"
[05:53] <bazhang> venezuela, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:53] <Serraphyn> Xvnc is also not secure
[05:53] <Starnestommy> Serraphyn: it's possible that plenty of people have seen it but haven't said anything because they can't find an answer to it
[05:53] <ubuntu_> bazhang, I already checked the media and it's fine
[05:53] <Serraphyn> NX runs through SSHD so its nice
[05:53] <wildgraphite> does anyone know how I could search for all my text files in bash, and then dump their contents into a single file?
[05:53] <bazhang> ubuntu_, the md5 sum is a different procedure
[05:53] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: that is correct, only one usb port, a fried hdd, i am using a UMPC called the Wibrain.  I can run Ubuntu through the live USB connected to it, but need some linux 2.6.24-16 modules to achieve full use of the device.  But can't seem to get them to work with the llive Synaptic, i will need to download them and place them on the device
[05:54] <riz0n> yeah i also like the fact that you can set up an HTTP-based client too
[05:54] <SwArcher> I've considered Linux as a serious notebook OS since the current release of Ubuntu.... Wireless works out-of-the-box with my i3945 :-)
[05:54] <ubuntu_> you sure it's a bad media?
[05:54] <ubuntu_> what does that error mean?
[05:54] <bazhang> ubuntu_, not the media
[05:54] <Serraphyn> Starnestommy, probably but its nice to have at least one or 2 people tell you no then nothing, sitting here the whole time thinking, wow no one ever setup a webcam in linux, am I on a enw frontier or something?
[05:54] <bazhang> ubuntu_, a corrupt iso
[05:54] <Serraphyn> ubuntu_, it could also be a bad burned CD
[05:55] <bazhang> ubuntu_, /msg ubottu md5
[05:55] <Serraphyn> I had 2 bad CDs once in a row
[05:55] <ubuntu_> well how am I supposed to do that if I can't boot into my system?
[05:56] <bazhang> ubuntu_, how did you burn the cd?
[05:56] <Serraphyn> ubuntu_, this is where that extra usb DVDR drive comes in ahndy :P
[05:56] <Guillotine> So my sound just stopped working after I tried switching Wine to using OSS. Anybody have any ideas?
[05:56] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: your last statement is correct
[05:57] <ubuntu_> yeah I don't have that drive
[05:57] <wildgraphite> is anybody good at bash that can quickly help me?
[05:57] <fryguy> lol it's taken me an hour so far to try to get ubuntu to even boot up to an install screen, and I installed freebsd before this in 7 minutes. pretty frustrated at this point
[05:57] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[05:57] <nimbus> What is a good way to test to see if a hard drive is failing?
[05:57] <fryguy> wildgraphite: the find command will do what you need, check out it's manpage
[05:57] <nbeebo> where do i download more applets to gnome-panel?
[05:57] <wibrainusernumbe> fryguy: my device is exotic so I will need to do it through the live usb OS
[05:57] <fryguy> nimbus: the tools provided by the drive manufacturer
[05:57] <Serraphyn> I actually made a USB DVDR drive :) took an USB CDRW drive and swaped the drive itself for a dvdr and it works great
[05:57] <wildgraphite> fryguy, I've been playing with it unsuccessfully
[05:57] <wildgraphite> all I get is a list of text files, not the contents
[05:58] <fryguy> wildgraphite: so pipe it into cat
[05:58] <fryguy> wildgraphite: or use -exec
[05:58] <wildgraphite> that's what I was trying to do
[05:58] <fryguy> wildgraphite: or xargs, whatever
[05:58] <Neurologic> oop >.>
[05:58] <wildgraphite> I'm just not sure on syntax I guess
[05:58] <Serraphyn> So has anyone every setup a USB Webcam in linux in here? Could really use some good old help on this one
[05:59] <Junaid> is it plug and play?
[05:59] <Serraphyn> Junaid, mine? yes
[05:59] <Junaid> Then it should work when you plug it in
[05:59] <Some_Person> Why won't the ubuntu installer or gparted see my partitions? They show a large, blank, unpartitioned disk
[05:59] <wildgraphite> how do you pipe into cat properly, and then into a file?
[05:59] <Junaid> it needs partitions
[05:59] <wibrainusernumbe> can anyone help?  I cant get my device drivers to work with 8.04, and that is the only Ubuntu version they are known to work for.  I cannot recompile them to work with other Ubuntu versions
[06:00] <JasonosaJ> wildgraphite, it's just `cat filename > newfile`
[06:00] <fryguy> Some_Person: are you maybe using a different labeling scheme, like gtp?
[06:00] <wibrainusernumbe> I am using a UMPC called the Wibrain
[06:00] <Some_Person> fryguy: Not that I know of. Just plain ol' partitions
[06:00] <wildgraphite> k.
[06:00] <fryguy> Some_Person: then the partition table is probably corrupt somehow, or you didn't actually partition it in the first place
[06:01] <Some_Person> The partitions work. I have 3 operating systems working
[06:01] <JasonosaJ> wildgraphite, just so you know, > is overwrite and >> is append
[06:01] <Some_Person> gparted terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86830/
[06:01] <Serraphyn> Junaid, when I plug it in what device should it be mapped to, and all I see being connected is the USB mice part
[06:01] <nbeebo> where do i download more applets to gnome-panel?
[06:01] <wildgraphite> jasonosaJ, yeah I noticed that... I was trying to search for all of my text files, and then dump all of their contents into one file...
[06:02] <laserline> I put a really old cd in my drive and it's having trouble reading it... problem is that I can't eject the CD... is there a way i can force eject my cd rom driver?
[06:02] <fryguy> Some_Person: so then your partition table is corrupt, like i said
[06:02] <linxuz3r> can you use lower case labels in fat partition?
[06:02] <JasonosaJ> You can write a script to do that wildgraphite
[06:02] <Some_Person> Nautilus (the file manager) can even see the partitions
[06:02] <Serraphyn> >.< figures first person to talk to me leave
[06:02] <Some_Person> I even tried using TestDisk to fix the table. All seems fine
[06:02] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[06:02] <wildgraphite> yeah...jasonosa... I was trying with find, but then I just get the list of all of my text files... how do you go from finding your files, to scanning their contents, and then piping into cat?
[06:03] <fryguy> wildgraphite: find . -name *blah* | cat >> newfile
[06:03] <saranya> hai
[06:03] <wildgraphite> I'll try it.
[06:03] <fryguy> wildgraphite: might need to xargs cat instead of cat, not sure
[06:03] <wildgraphite> probably xargs then.
[06:04] <Some_Person> The only thing that even sees a problem is GParted and the stupid ubuntu installer
[06:04] <Some_Person> Other than that, all is well on my drive
[06:04] <Decepticon> in gnome, how to open avi videos with command 'vlc --fullscreen' by default?
[06:05] <riz0n> well its nice to see that my server has went offline :\
[06:05] <laserline> How do I force eject the cd rom dirver... the button doesn't open the drive and ubuntu say's there probably isn't a cd in the drive, but there is
[06:05] <Some_Person> But I need the installer to see them to install. It just sees a large unpartitioned drive
[06:05] <riz0n> i think its the fiber connection not the server :|
[06:05] <saranya> anyone clear my doubt ,how know ip address of the system in ubuntu
[06:06] <fryguy> saranya: ifconfig
[06:06] <saranya> thank u
[06:06] <JasonosaJ> laserline, you probably need to umount it. if not, you can always just reboot
[06:06] <saranya> anyone know about font creation
[06:06] <wildgraphite> find just prints a list of the files, not their contents.
[06:07] <fryguy> wildgraphite: and cat prints the contents of a file
[06:07] <fryguy> wildgraphite: basic piping allows you to put the 2 together
[06:07] <laserline> JasonosaJ: thanks i know i can reboot, but I hate how ubuntu takes control of the eject button on the cd rom driver... i was trying to eject it without restarting
[06:07] <wildgraphite> it didn't though.
[06:07] <fryguy> wildgraphite: also see -exec.  both of these i already mentioned
[06:07] <wildgraphite> it piped the names
[06:07] <fryguy> wildgraphite: it does
[06:07] <Neurologic> Ehm, where can one get the orange circle icon KDE uses for Evolution mail?
[06:07] <Neurologic> It's quite better looking than gnome's default, in my opinion, I just need the icon =(
[06:07] <JasonosaJ> wildgraphite,  are you using `find . -name filename |xargs cat >> newfile`?
[06:08] <laserline> JasonosaJ:  I can understand software eject, but if you hit the eject button on the cd rom drive it should eject if there's a cd in there or not
[06:08] <wildgraphite> no it was without.
[06:08] <saranya> hai fryguy do u know about font creation
[06:08] <fryguy> saranya: i don't know anything
[06:08] <saranya> it's ok
[06:09] <saranya> do u know about NAS
[06:09] <[G]aLLaNt> hi
[06:09] <Some_Person> So does anyone know how I can make GParted and the Ubuntu installer see my partitions?
[06:09] <[G]aLLaNt> I have a problem
[06:09] <Etherael> anyone know what the deal is with radeon drivers crashing X whenever you click the desktop?
[06:09] <fryguy> saranya: i just said "i don't know anything"
[06:09] <Etherael> (8.10 32bit desktop version)
[06:11] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> how many partitions you have on your hd?
[06:12] <hkais1> hello
[06:12] <Some_Person> n8tuser: Several
[06:13] <hkais1> anyone here who uses a online platform to share files with customers? Is there any tool for apache/ubuntu to nstall on the own machine?
[06:13] <Some_Person> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86835/
[06:13] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> and gparted are not seeing them?
[06:13] <Some_Person> Nope. It shows a large disk with no partitions
[06:13] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[06:13] <Flannel> fryguy: Use the alternate CD instead
[06:14] <Lokin> Can someone help me figure out why I can't SSH to my server??
[06:14] <fryguy> Flannel: i don't have a blank CD around, and I'm trying to figure out what changed in the installer to make my hardware incompatible with the 8.10 livecd as opposed to the 8.04 livecd
[06:14] <Lokin> It's worked before but just stopped
[06:14] <JasonosaJ> Lokin, is sshd running?
[06:14] <fryguy> Lokin: problem with your router, or you stopped the ssh server for some reason
[06:14] <Flannel> fryguy: How about ubiquity-only does that work?
[06:14] <fryguy> Flannel: ?
[06:14] <Flannel> fryguy: choose "install Ubuntu" instead of "boot the live CD" or whatever it is
[06:15] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> the /dev/sda  hd or another?
[06:15] <fryguy> Flannel: that doesn't work either
[06:15] <Some_Person> n8tuser: I honestly see nothing wrong. When GParted is run from a terminal, it says "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[06:15] <Some_Person> yes /dev/sda
[06:15] <wildgraphite> fryguy: thanks.. it seemed to mostly work.. (a few files were not found, I think due to spaces in their titles)
[06:15] <JasonosaJ> Lokin, you should be able to restart sshd if it's the problem by `/etc/init.d/sshd restart`
[06:15] <nimbus> I am sure this has been asked to death but if I have the hardware for it, should I go with the 64 bit install?
[06:15] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> what are you trying to do? what you pasted seems okay
[06:16] <fryguy> wildgraphite: use -print0 and the corresponding xargs argument to probably take care of that
[06:16] <Some_Person> install ubuntu
[06:16] <fryguy> nimbus: probably
[06:16] <Some_Person> The ubuntu installer sees no partitions either
[06:16] <nimbus> I will do that. I think this hd might be going bad after two months.
[06:16] <n8tuser> !who | Some_Person
[06:16] <Mike0x0> Is there a command what will show me which processes are using /dev/dsp? I'm getting a "device busy" and I'd like to know what is using it.
[06:16] <DarkFuzion> ontinsoldier: hey man hows it goes
[06:16] <fryguy> Mike0x0: lsof
[06:17] <qcjn> hi, do you know of a good screen video recorder ?
[06:17] <fryguy> qcjn: xvidcap
[06:17] <qcjn> thanks
[06:18] <Some_Person> n8tuser: http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3595/partitionqz2.png
[06:18] <Serraphyn> Well I gues if it worked for Fryguy, I'll go into repeating every 4 minutes the same thing till someone answers me.'
[06:18] <wildgraphite> fryguy: print -0 where?
[06:19] <JasonosaJ> Some_Person, it's not recognizing any of your partitions, just the physical drive itself
[06:19] <Flannel> Serraphyn: Please don't do that.  20-30 minutes is a good timeframe
[06:19] <fryguy> wildgraphite: as part of find.  just read the manpage, this is all detailed in there for you
[06:19] <wildgraphite> k
[06:19] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> what do you have installed on /dev/sda6  ?
[06:19] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m2760b820 <-- can someone please help me get this webcam (V-Gear Talkcam Pro) working with my linux Ubuntu 8.04 box? PLEASE
[06:19] <wildgraphite> thanks for your help.. it would have taken a few extra days without you, fryguy.
[06:19] <DarkFuzion> has anyone know if they have gotten a Ati radeon mobility 9200 working in ubuntu?
[06:19] <[G]aLLaNt> hello please help me
[06:19] <Some_Person> n8tuser: Old ubuntu installation. I want to reinstall it.
[06:19] <Serraphyn> FLannel, well fryguy did ti and people paid attension I tried the waiting approach and felt pretty ignroed
[06:20] <[G]aLLaNt> i have a Acer aspire one, and not detected the Boarth wireless
[06:20] <fryguy> Serraphyn: the attention i'm getting is useless from people who have no clue. so it's not really doing anything
[06:21] <Serraphyn> fryguy, some hope is better then no hope
[06:21] <fryguy> i'm just looking to get a simple system up and running so I can do kernel development.  I'm going to just pick a different distro in a few more minutes I think
[06:21] <Some_Person> n8tuser: I think it stopped recognizing my disk after Vista screwed up my partition table, though a program called TestDisk fixed it.
[06:21] <JasonosaJ> fryguy, pick slackware :)
[06:21] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> what did you choose when asked what to use as partition? or was it managed? i cant recall the exact verbage..
[06:21] <Some_Person> n8tuser: "Manual"
[06:21] <MoLoot> JasonosaJ: hahaha
[06:22] <Sajuukkhar> hey guys, I have an ubuntu server which is installed on Drive A, however I want it to share Drive B
[06:22] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> are you on liveCD now?
[06:22] <Some_Person> n8tuser: Yes
[06:23] <Guillotine> Whenever I start World of Warcraft via Wine, my PCM value is reset to 0. Anybody know why that might be happening?
[06:23] <fryguy> so apparently, if I ctrl-alt-f2 within 5 seconds of the X11 freezing, and then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back, it doesn't freeze.  That is a really strange regression from 8.04 to 8.10 lol
[06:23] <Serraphyn> Sajuukkhar: share with windows or just other linux?
[06:23] <Sajuukkhar> both
[06:23] <Serraphyn> Sajuukkhar, use samba
[06:23] <Sajuukkhar> yep, I got Samba supposedly up and running
[06:23] <wildgraphite> success! and now to build an alias
[06:24] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> are you root in liveCD  when you typed  fdisk -l  ?
[06:24] <Sajuukkhar> I can go through either Putty or Webmin
[06:24] <Some_Person> n8tuser: I used sudo
[06:24] <DarkFuzion> can i do two server at one time in mirc???
[06:25] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> curious as to what password you type when prompted ?
[06:25] <Some_Person> n8tuser: No password
[06:25] <Sajuukkhar> livecd needs no password iirc
[06:25] <Some_Person> n8tuser: No prompt
[06:25] <mon^rch> which package do I install that automatically updates the virtualbox modules?
[06:26] <RonDutt> Could anyone help me get past this error when building the n2n vpn app? "error: previous declaration of 'int8_t' was here"
[06:26] <Flannel> DarkFuzion: probably.  Try /connect newserver, but mIRC isn't really a question for this channel.  They have their own support channel somewhere, I'm sure.
[06:26] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m2760b820 <-- can someone please help me get this webcam (V-Gear Talkcam Pro) working with my linux Ubuntu 8.04 box? PLEASE
[06:26] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> try sudo -i  and type  fdisk -l  and see if you get same results
[06:26] <woody86> is there an easy way to change a lot of picture formats at once?
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> woody86: imagemagick
[06:26] <Some_Person> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86839/
[06:27] <heril> query, when I set my master volume to about 50% or lower, I get no sound output
[06:28] <woody86> tonyyarusso, is there a program that I can just do a group rename?
[06:28] <ButterflyOfFire> Hi everyone
[06:28] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> fdisk /dev/sda   then p  to print the same
[06:28] <n8tuser> same results right?
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> woody86: just renaming, not changing the file format?
[06:28] <heril> woody86: if you just rename it, the actual format doesn't change
[06:29] <Some_Person> n8tuser: while still in sudo -i?
[06:29]  * Until_It_Sleeps NP: Metallica - Bleeding Me.
[06:29] <woody86> well guys I just need to rename them from .JPG to .jpg
[06:29] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> yes
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Until_It_Sleeps: not in here.
[06:29] <Until_It_Sleeps> ohh... :(
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> woody86: Then just use the 'rename' command.
[06:29] <ehama> Hi. Need help with compiling C code. Here is my KDevelop output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/86841/
[06:29] <fryguy> 95/partitionqz2.png
[06:29] <fryguy> 01:20:12  Serraphyn| Well I gues if it worked for Fryguy, I'll go into repeating every 4 minutes the  same thing till someone answers me.'
[06:30] <Some_Person> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/86843/
[06:30] <woody86> the website I need to upload them don't recognize them as .JPG's but it works when they're lowercase
[06:31] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ok then... thats unusual for a website to bicker over the case of a file extension.
[06:31] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> then from that fdisk menu, you can select to reformat /dev/sda6 to ext3
[06:31] <Some_Person> n8tuser: Still doesn't help me install ubuntu
[06:31] <IdleOne> woody86, GPrename is a nice app if you have a lot of files
[06:32] <woody86> tonyyarusso, it won't let me do multiple file renames at the same time, and I have almost 300 pics to do
[06:32] <IdleOne> woody86, gprename is what you want
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> woody86: Yes it will, I guarantee it.  Check the man page.
[06:32] <Until_It_Sleeps> man page?
[06:32] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> would you like to take my advise?
[06:32] <woody86> IdleOne, I'll give it a shot, thanks
[06:32] <fryguy> woody86: for i in *.JPG; do mv $i.JPG $i.jpg; done;  <-- should get you close, probably need to tweak a little bit
[06:32] <Serraphyn> Sw33ty_115, added to ignore list.  I don't speak asdfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdf
[06:33] <heril> does anyone know how I might fix the volume?
[06:33] <Until_It_Sleeps> XD
[06:33] <Some_Person> n8tuser: all right
[06:33] <ehama> Any help?  Need help with compiling C code. Here is my KDevelop output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/86841/
[06:33] <woody86> fryguy, but I don't want to have to do that 300 times
[06:33] <IdleOne> woody86, you can change to all lowercase or upper and a few other options also
[06:33] <fryguy> woody86: you run it once...
[06:33] <fryguy> woody86: it's a for loop, basic bash scripting
[06:33] <fryguy> woody86: take a moment to read it
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> fryguy: You don't have to do that even - it's all built into the rename command syntax.
[06:33] <ButterflyOfFire> My question is about PGP Keys : actually I uploaded 5 or 6 PGP keys on Ubuntu servers and I don't know how to delete them
[06:33] <fryguy> woody86: tr might also be able to help you
[06:33] <Some_Person> n8tuser: how do i format the partition?
[06:34] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> then from that fdisk menu, you can select to reformat /dev/sda6 to ext3, or even erase sda6 and sda7 and then resize to your satisfaction
[06:34] <Some_Person> n8tuser: How do I "select to reformat"?
[06:34] <woody86> tonyyarusso, but when I select all the files and right-click the "rename" option is grayed out
[06:34] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> type m  for the help menu
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> woody86: Um, rename command, not rename nautilus option.
[06:35] <vtak> every weather reporting applet that I use doesn
[06:35] <heril> ButterflyOfFire: public keys?
[06:35] <woody86> oh... yeah, I'm really not that great with the command line either
[06:35] <heril> I assume
[06:36] <ButterflyOfFire> Yes heril
[06:36] <Some_Person> n8tuser: Not seeing the option http://paste.ubuntu.com/86846/
[06:36] <heril> then why do you need to remove them?
[06:36] <vtak> every weather reporting applet that I try to use doesnt work. even the default one in the toolbar clock displays nothing
[06:36] <Gokee2> I am trying to install rdiff-backup 1.1.5-4 on ubuntu hardy (it needs to talk to my debian server) I got the debian package and tried to install it in ubuntu but it says "rdiff-backup: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5.2-1ubuntu1 is to be installed"  What is the best way to get this version of rdiff-backup onto my hardy system?  Thanks
[06:36] <IdleOne> woody86, gprename is a GUI application and has a preview button so you can see what you are about to do before doing it. not trying to step on any toes but I think it is exactly what you want
[06:36] <DasEI1> is flash still a problem in ibex64 ?
[06:37] <ButterflyOfFire> I'm not using those public keys heril ... I formated my machine and I've lost my private keys
[06:37] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> use   d for delete, and select the partitions you want deleted, then n to create a new partition..create as many as you wish
[06:37] <woody86> IdleOne, I just installed it, and I'm playing with the options right now. Thanks! :)
[06:37] <\\`oot> evening all
[06:37] <heril> don't worry about it ButterflyOfFire
[06:37] <heril> just let it be really
[06:38] <IdleOne> Sw33ty_115, please dont msg me if you need help ask in here, if you want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:38] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[06:38] <heril> no reason to worry about them
[06:38] <\\`oot> would anyone here have any idea why ALL my video files (.avi's mostly) are completely off-color now?
[06:38] <Some_Person> n8tuser: And this will NOT delete/format/screw up my other partitions, correct?
[06:38] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: in totem?
[06:38] <fryguy> \\`oot: you installed mplayer and are using the wrong output driver
[06:38] <\\`oot> mplayer
[06:38] <\\`oot> and VLC media player
[06:38] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> you only touch what you need to reformat, which is sda6 and sda7 not the others
[06:38] <ButterflyOfFire> humm okay heril thanks for the advice ;)
[06:38] <\\`oot> like, skin-tones are green, weird!
[06:39] <apassi> hi, i notice that my remote server's feisty is end of its life because packages are not any more shared. How can i fix situation? Total reinstall is not possible..
[06:39] <Stoffer> ok...I have a sony viao.... x starts, I get a login screen, and then a blank desktop.  What do I do to fix this?
[06:39] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> you cancel your current install process, and restart the install upon completion of using fdisk
[06:39] <Some_Person> it wants cylinders to create the new partition
[06:39] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: at one point (i think it was after I updated to hardy) i had to adjust the Hue. Before that it was always in the middle. But I had to keep it all the way to the left to look right. Maybe check that?
[06:40] <vtak> every weather reporting applet that I try to use doesnt work. even the default one in the toolbar clock displays nothing
[06:40] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> read the hints, says you can use  like  +20G  for 20gigs
[06:40] <\\`oot> well, the rest of my screen is hunky-dory - but it's just .avi files
[06:40] <Until_It_[Sleeps> Night all
[06:41] <heril> anyone know how I can solve an audio output problem where while everything else in alsamixer is maxed, except the master volume at 50% or lower I get no output?
[06:41] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: same thing. green screen only in movies. check it out in totem and slide the hue slider
[06:41] <heril> vtak: did you configure the location?
[06:41] <ice_cream> \\`oot, so what did you change in that time
[06:41] <\\`oot> what's totem?
[06:41] <vtak> heril, yes I've used it before it just stopped working
[06:41] <Some_Person> how do i specify ext3 and swap?
[06:41] <\\`oot> ice_cream: nothing?
[06:41] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: the default movie player
[06:42] <\\`oot> I've installed 8.10
[06:42] <ice_cream> an upgrade from 8.04?
[06:42] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> type m again for the menu,  l  as in ell  list the types
[06:42] <Guillotine> Anybody know of a way to lock down PCM audio so that the value cannot be changed? Wine appears to be continually muting it.
[06:42]  * ice_cream ponders
[06:43] <woody86> IdleOne, thanks! Worked perfectly!
[06:43] <IdleOne> woody86, you are welcome
[06:43] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> w to write once you are finished.  then restart your install process.. I have to leave now..laters
[06:43] <heril> anyone know how I can solve an audio output problem where while everything else in alsamixer is maxed, except the master volume at 50% or lower I get no output?
[06:44] <\\`oot> whoa
[06:44] <\\`oot> you're right... if I move hue all left/right... everything is OK
[06:44] <\\`oot> that's just screwed up
[06:44] <Some_Person> n8tuser: ok, now what?
[06:44] <corinth> I use gOS, and just updated to 8.10. After mu upgrade, the boot splash screen no longer shows. It's just a text output. Suggestions?
[06:44] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: ha! yeah it is funky, but it's been like that for a while i think - wasn't always like that
[06:45] <phantomcircuit> http://rafb.net/p/m2yuY016.html
[06:45] <Serraphyn> http://pastebin.com/m2760b820 <-- can someone please help me get this webcam (V-Gear Talkcam Pro) working with my linux Ubuntu 8.04 box? PLEASE
[06:45] <ice_cream> 8.10 has been pretty buggy, right
[06:45] <ice_cream> i take it
[06:45] <phantomcircuit> LOL i guess testing overflow on ubuntu isn't a great idea
[06:45] <\\`oot> ushimitsudoki: That's weird - it affects ALL programs
[06:45] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> the menu is self explanatory, hope you can make sense out of it.. i have to leave now
[06:45] <Some_Person> It says "The new table will be used at the next reboot."
[06:45] <heril> ice_cream: only buggy part I've had is this audio
[06:45] <Some_Person> so i'm going to reboot now
[06:45] <kling0n> \\`oot: add this to your sessoin startup: "xvattr -a XV_HUE -v 0 "
[06:45] <heril> other than that its been working finer for me that any previous release
[06:45] <n8tuser> Some_Person-> yes you can reboot to same livecd and restart the install
[06:45] <kling0n> \\`oot: that'll fix it :)
[06:46] <\\`oot> WILD
[06:46] <\\`oot> that's just insane that you'd have to do that!!
[06:46] <ice_cream> i've heard stories of flash player issues, esp. with firefox, audio, xorg, packages.
[06:46] <kling0n> \\`oot: it's a bug in the priprietary driver
[06:46] <ice_cream> some vbox stuff
[06:46] <heril> in fact my brightness display never worked from when I started using ubuntu through 8.04, most annoying thing ever if I was running on battery power
[06:46] <kling0n> \\`oot: pr*o*prietary
[06:46] <ice_cream> c'est la vie eh =)
[06:46] <heril> works perfectly now
[06:46] <\\`oot> figures
[06:46] <ice_cream> we just need to face them, and divide+conquer
[06:46] <x_dimitri> some keys on my keyboard no longer work properly after upgrading to intrepid form hardy. has anyone experienced similar? Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:47] <\\`oot> I have a sweet nVidia 8600 card though :)
[06:47] <telaviv> is there a way to find out the amount of ram installed on my computer?
[06:47] <\\`oot> the visualization stuff is so nice
[06:47] <kling0n> after the 8.10 upgrade i have to mount my cifs shares in fstab manually... can't find any log errors from startup though
[06:47] <ice_cream> telaviv, cat /proc/meminfo --> the first line
[06:47] <\\`oot> what are "splash screens"??
[06:47] <telaviv> great thanks ice_cream
[06:47] <\\`oot> it's under System >> Preferences
[06:48] <heril> x_dimitri: which keys?
[06:48] <ice_cream> there are probably prettier ways to display it, but that's the simplest, np
[06:48] <heril> ice_cream: but the command line *is* pretty
[06:48] <ice_cream> ah, to me it is =)
[06:48] <x_dimitri> heril:insert, home, pageup, pagedown, delete end, the arrow keys
[06:49] <ice_cream> but that's because i've already customized my xterm to look nice =D
[06:49] <heril> <-urxvt
[06:49] <x_dimitri> heril: a few other keys seem problematic also, for e.g. the double quote character doesn´t like the usual one
[06:49] <ice_cream> used to use that
[06:49] <cakey> i accidentally the apache what should i do
[06:50] <fryguy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a machine, and after the machine boots up, the desktop loads, and nothing is responsive.  Capslock and numlock on my keyboard are responsive, i can move the mouse around, but I can't click on anything, and switching to a virtual console doesn't work (none of the keyboard keys do anything, just capslock and numlock).  Intel core2 proc, p35 board, nvidia card in which vesa/nv/binary drivers have all been determined to work (via 
[06:50] <ice_cream> mainly when at one point i had a broken xterm
[06:50] <x_dimitri> heril: the keys seem to work just fine in a terminal, and in the X login screen. The problem starts after I log into X
[06:50] <heril> I take it you're using gnome?
[06:52] <x_dimitri> heril:yes
[06:52] <kling0n> fryguy in the grub menu choose your menu entry, then press 'e' and append "single" after the kernel line, then press 'b'
[06:52] <corinth> I use gOS, and just updated to 8.10. After mu upgrade, the boot splash screen no longer shows. It's just a text output. Help?
[06:52] <corinth> *my
[06:52] <terryx> anybody knows what is solaris?
[06:52] <kling0n> fryguy: that should give you  a single user console, from which you can do an upgrade.. i  had a similar problem in an intel desktop board and the upgrade fixed it
[06:52] <heril> terryx: an Operating system
[06:53] <fryguy> kling0n: ubuntu isn't installed yet. please reread the question
[06:53] <heril> UNIX like made by Sun Microsystems
[06:53] <skittlesandjuice> from Sun Microsystems
[06:53] <terryx> like ubuntu
[06:53] <ari_stress> hi guys, wazzup
[06:53] <terryx> or better
[06:53] <terryx> ?
[06:53] <heril> terryx: neither
[06:53] <x_dimitri> heril:there also seem to be a couple of other anomalies... menu text in openoffice are garbled... media apps no longer work (rhythmbox, totem, e.t.c). This way I have no idea what else isn working. :-(
[06:53] <fryguy> terryx: better in many ways, worse in others
[06:53] <terryx> worse in what
[06:53] <terryx> ?
[06:53] <jtrucks> does ubuntu dd kick out status ifyou send it the USR1 signal?
[06:53] <\\`oot> Hey - now that I have my video fixed... do you guys stream music?  (.pls files)
[06:53] <kling0n> fryguy: did you try the text-only installer?
[06:54] <heril> x_dimitri: I'd assume its something with gnome, and I'm not too familliar with that
[06:54] <\\`oot> what do you use?  i used to use WinAMP in Windows... what's the best in Ubuntu?
[06:54] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: rythmbox can handle pls streams
[06:54] <fryguy> terryx: much worse driver support for commodity hardware, a kernel tuned for massively parallel systems (though this has changed a bit in recent opensolaris releases), smaller repository of available packages.  packages are usually "stable" as opposed to up to date and cutting edge
[06:54] <ushimitsudoki> \\`oot: there is no BEST - so try a few and see which ones you like
[06:54] <heril> corinth: can you post your /boot/grub/menu.lst using pastebin?
[06:54] <\\`oot> OK
[06:54] <DarkFuzion> anyone ever get the ati radeon 9200 mobility driver to work
[06:54] <fryguy> kling0n: i don't have an extra disc to do it
[06:54] <\\`oot> rythmbox... is mplayer still around?
[06:54] <terryx> means not worth downloading..right?
[06:54] <\\`oot> does it support .pls files?
[06:54] <heril> terryx: get nexenta
[06:54] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: hello.. sorry, i was away!
[06:55] <terryx> nexenta..??? whats that?
[06:55] <DarkFuzion> its ok i switch computerls lol
[06:55] <fryguy> terryx: a system with a solaris kernel and a GNU userland
[06:55] <heril> terry: basically solaris+ubuntu
[06:55] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: ahh, hehe
[06:55] <heril> in the simplest terminology
[06:55] <heril> opensolaris kernel with ubuntu on top
[06:55] <terryx> availkable free nexenta
[06:55] <heril> though it doesn't have as full of a repository
[06:56] <ehama> Need help with compiling C code. Here is my KDevelop output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/86841/ . Any help appreciated.
[06:56] <corinth> heril
[06:56] <terryx> is it free..??? free then?
[06:56] <corinth> heril: http://pastebin.ca/1287471
[06:56] <heril> terryx: of course
[06:57] <ushimitsudoki> ehama: look @ line 16
[06:57] <kling0n> fryguy: ok... what is the mainboard model ?
[06:58] <ehama> ushimitsudoki, okay I can set the permissions. where is that directory then?
[06:58] <onetinsoldier> ehama: you might get more help in #kde-devel
[06:59] <ushimitsudoki> ehema: it looks like it's being created as part of the makefile? Anyway, it's not really a #ubuntu issue i think
[06:59] <fryguy> kling0n: gigabyte p35-ds3l
[06:59] <heril> corinth: okay, so its not a problem with menu.lst
[06:59] <heril> try looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2005-October/000157.html
[06:59] <fryguy> kling0n: standard consumer board, nothing special
[06:59] <ehama> onetinsoldier, okay I'll ask there too.
[06:59] <onetinsoldier> ehama: :-)
[07:00] <corinth> heril: Yeah, I didn't think so.
[07:00] <DarkFuzion> onetinsoldier: lol so anyways you were saying a bout fixing the xorg.conf last night
[07:01] <kling0n> fryguy: try adding these kernel parameters (from the cd boot menu) "noacpi noapic
[07:01] <kling0n> fryguy: try adding these kernel parameters (from the cd boot menu) "noacpi noapic"
[07:01] <fryguy> kling0n: doesn't do anything
[07:01] <fryguy> kling0n: same result occurs with either or both of those parameters
[07:01] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: the more i think about it, i would just find out what you should put in on the driver line for the open-source driver(xorg), and forget about trying to get the latest fglrx driver working.
[07:02] <terryx> and whats kubuntu
[07:02] <terryx> ?
[07:02] <DarkFuzion> lol
[07:02] <kling0n> fryguy: are you using a sata drive?
[07:02] <rebel_kid> Terryx kubuntu is ubuntu using the KDE desktop environment, i personally would not recommend it
[07:02] <fryguy> terryx: an ubuntu distribution that installskde by default instead of gnome
[07:02] <fryguy> kling0n: yes
[07:02] <DarkFuzion> wha souce is it do you know
[07:02] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: i seriously doubt the 9200 Mobility is supported in the latest fglrx drivers
[07:03] <DarkFuzion> i doubt it tooo
[07:03] <terryx> so kubuntu is not better then ubuntu
[07:03] <fryguy> terryx: they are teh same, just a different set of default packages that get installed
[07:03] <kling0n> fryguy: this guy seems to have had an issue with the HDD drivers
[07:03] <kling0n> http://ontario-geofish.blogspot.com/2008/02/linux-on-gigabyte-ga-p35-ds3l.html
[07:03] <IdleOne> terryx, try it out and decide for yourself
[07:03] <DarkFuzion> is the mesa
[07:03] <buttercups> DarkFuzion, anything under 9500 is not supported
[07:03] <DarkFuzion> ahhh
[07:03] <rebel_kid> terryx, better is a matter of opinion, simply speaking the only difference is the desktop environment, if you want my opinion i think gnome (on ubuntu) is better than KDE (on kubuntu)
[07:04] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: those guys in the forum link you gave me are fromlike 2 years ago, and even then they were having truoble getting it working. the last guys look like they were saying it doesn't work anymore
[07:04] <fryguy> kling0n: i've tried both onboard controllers, as well as a separate onboard controller.  the drive is detected fine (to the point of mounting and seeing other operating systems) in all 3 cases.  The hard drive and/or sata controller(s) are not the issue
[07:04] <Goober> where am i?
[07:04] <DarkFuzion> im using the generic mesa drive
[07:04] <DarkFuzion> driver
[07:04] <heril> terryx: or if you're like me, its irrelevant since I don't use gnome or kde
[07:04] <onetinsoldier> DarkFuzion: ok. i see what buttercups is saying.. thought so
[07:04] <IdleOne> Goober, you are in #ubuntu ( support channel for Ubuntu linux )
[07:05] <IdleOne> heh
[07:05] <kling0n> fryguy: ok... sorry i can't help you then... my best bet would be to try the text-only installer as next step
[07:05] <terryx> in ubuntu there is an option kde in package manager, what is that for
[07:05] <terryx> ?
[07:05] <fryguy> terryx: to install kde
[07:06] <DarkFuzion> i wonder if wine would work then
[07:06] <kling0n> fryguy: one guy had problems with the ram clocking... could you try adjusting BIOS RAM settings?
[07:06] <Ultraputz> any idea why tehre would be screenfuls of "update-notifier" in ps ?
[07:06] <terryx> any harm on ubntu?
[07:06] <fryguy> kling0n: probably going to just install a different operating system at this point.  Plenty of other distros install fine, and faster, than this
[07:06] <stooj> No terryx
[07:06] <terryx> whats that for then?
[07:06] <IdleOne> terryx, harm in what sense?
[07:06] <heril> terryx: nope
[07:06] <fryguy> kling0n: the ram clocking is stock SPD, and memtests for 48hours without an issue
[07:06] <terryx> looks?
[07:06] <heril> it will hurt your filesystem by taking space
[07:06] <IdleOne> terryx, exactly
[07:07] <terryx> what u think good or just fine?
[07:07] <kling0n> fryguy: sure thing... the guy from that last link seems to have experienced the same issue as you though.
[07:08] <omshanti> how do i burn a .bin file in ubuntu?
[07:08] <IdleOne> terryx, the best way is for you to download the live cd version of kubuntu and ubuntu and try them out. see what you prefer
[07:08] <halycon> Does anyone have any experience getting a Nokia 6121c working with Ubuntu? I cannot get it to work with Wammu or anything
[07:08] <fryguy> kling0n: every other operating system i've tried functions correctly.  This is contrary to the experience of the person you mentioned
[07:08] <terryx> i have ubuntu
[07:08] <terryx> right now i am on that
[07:08] <fryguy> terryx: keep in mind there are plenty of other desktop environments out there besides the gnome and KDE that are offered to you in default configurations
[07:08] <IdleOne> terryx, ok now try kubuntu live cd and see
[07:09] <terryx> just want to know some information about kubuntu before downloading
[07:09] <kling0n> fryguy: just trying to help.. :) there's an intrepid bug related to the C1E cpu feature... have you tried disabling it ?
[07:09] <heril> omshanti: any cd burning software should support burning raw binary images
[07:09] <heril> on ubuntu that is
[07:09] <IdleOne> terryx, I believe there are screenshots on the kubuntu website that will give you an idea
[07:09] <fryguy> kling0n: no, I find that to be a necessary function of my BIOS to leave on for the purposes of other operating systems I use
[07:09] <kling0n> fryguy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/260639
[07:09] <heril> though I've only personally used k3b and cdrecord
[07:10] <stooj> terryx, Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE. Gnome and KDE are quite different, they use different applications and have very different design philosophies
[07:10] <cplab2-58> hey i have a bin package of aptoncd.....i do i installl using it
[07:10] <kling0n> fryguy: you *could* try disabling it temporarily and see if it's fixed after updating
[07:10] <stooj> !gnome
[07:11] <fryguy> kling0n: i don't want to be forced to make fundamental hardware functionality changes to install an operating system.  If ubuntu can't support this motherboard in the latest version, then I will look elsewhere
[07:11] <IdleOne> terryx, http://www.kubuntu.org/tour
[07:11] <terryx> when i install ubuntu inside xp, its completed whithout any probs
[07:11] <kling0n> fryguy: enjoy, then :)
[07:11] <terryx> kubuntu do the same?
[07:11] <ikonia> fryguy: what functions does it not support ?
[07:12] <IdleOne> terryx, it should
[07:12] <onats2> anyone here successfully installed ubuntu on an Asus P5Q motherboard machine?
[07:12] <kling0n> fryguy: personally, making a temporary BIOS change doesn't seem to be a "fundamental hardware change" to me though
[07:12] <fryguy> ikonia: according to this bugreport that was just posted, C1E on my processor in the motherboard configuration
[07:12] <stooj> terryx, Sorry?
[07:12] <fryguy> kling0n: then our opinions differ
[07:12] <ikonia> fryguy: what functionalit is "CE1"
[07:12] <terryx> ok..in ubuntu when i try to install sim-2(game), i can'
[07:12] <terryx> t
[07:13] <ikonia> onats2: what's the problem
[07:13] <heril> terryx: you can install kubuntu using wubi as well
[07:13] <fryguy> ikonia: it's one of the speedstepping mechanisms of intel core2 processors
[07:13] <stooj> terryx, You're right, you can't
[07:13] <onats2> ikonia, installation can't detect my SATA drives, and live cd can't detect network device
[07:13] <terryx> why?
[07:13] <ikonia> fryguy: well if ubuntu 8.10 doesn't support it, you'll be struggling to find another distro that does as that support is kernel support and 8.10 is close to beleding edge
[07:13] <cplab2-58> hey i have a bin package of aptoncd.....i do i installl using it
[07:13] <terryx> its not for games?
[07:14] <cplab2-58> hey i have a bin package of aptoncd.....how do i installl using it
[07:14] <ikonia> onats2: are you using raid on your system ?
[07:14] <terryx> i have mounted iso via gmountiso
[07:14] <fryguy> ikonia: other distributions i've tried have functioned fine on my hardware
[07:14] <onats2> ikonia, nope.. just standard hard drives
[07:14] <ikonia> cplab2-58: you don't need a bin package
[07:14] <fryguy> ikonia: ubuntu 8.10 is the first i've run into problems with
[07:14] <ikonia> fryguy: can you give me an example of one
[07:14] <terryx> its says there is no enough space?
[07:14] <fryguy> ikonia: ubuntu 8.04 before the .1 patch, archlinux, freebsd (doesn't count I guess), debian 4.0, centos
[07:14] <Yakeson_Chihiro> good day all
[07:14] <terryx> whats that?
[07:15] <ikonia> cplab2-58: open the package manager and install "apt-oncd" package
[07:15] <ikonia> fryguy: interesting do you have the bug report number please.
[07:15] <heril> terryx: what's not for games?
[07:15] <ikonia> terryx: it means there is not enough system (or sometimes a permissions problem) on your file system
[07:15] <IdleOne> cplab2-58, sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[07:15] <Yakeson_Chihiro> I'm using the latest kubuntu kde4, any idea about plasmoid twitter please ? Seems there are no more in the latest version
[07:15] <fryguy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/260639
[07:15] <terryx> so what i do?
[07:15] <fryguy> ikonia: ^^
[07:15] <terryx> before it was working?
[07:15] <ikonia> fryguy: thank you
[07:15] <heril> terryx: depends
[07:16] <terryx> before it was working..
[07:16] <ikonia> reading
[07:16] <terryx> on what?
[07:16] <heril> what do you want to do
[07:16] <danaka> hey, how would i go about mounting an .mds file in ubuntu?
[07:16] <cplab2-58> IdleOne; so will it directly install from the location instead of searching on net
[07:16] <terryx> forget that, what is wubi?
[07:17] <IdleOne> cplab2-58, it will download and install from the ubuntu repositories
[07:17] <ikonia> cplab2-58: use dpkg -i on the file
[07:17] <Guest40828> how do i force a resolution that is not offered to me in the screen resolution gui?
[07:17] <IdleOne> ikonia, it's a bin
[07:17] <ikonia> IdleOne: I thought he meant a deb by a "bin"
[07:17] <IdleOne> ikonia, he may have
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> !wubi | terryx
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> terryx:  its the devil imho
[07:18] <DarkFuzion> buttercup: if radeon ati 9200 dont have any drivers then how come i can use  the extra effects in apperance
[07:18] <terryx> devil imho measns?
[07:18] <terryx> devil imho means/
[07:18] <terryx> ?
[07:18] <ikonia> fryguy: out of interest is this an alpha/beta release that was upgraded
[07:18] <cplab2-58> ikonia; the package is stored on a cd.....now how do i install.,..can u help me by providing the full command along with the name of the package with version
[07:18] <ikonia> terryx: what ?
[07:18] <IdleOne> terryx, means he does not like wubi
[07:18] <Kartagis> what is the equivalent of releasing and renewing ip in windows? restarting network?
[07:18] <stooj> terryx, "devil in my opinion"
[07:18] <ikonia> cplab2-58: just use the one from the ubuntu repo - it's safer
[07:18] <fryguy> ikonia: no, i'm trying to install from an 8.10 cd
[07:19] <terryx> so all the flavour of linux needs no anyti-virus?
[07:19] <fryguy> ikonia: and the desktop becomes unresponsive upon boot (mouse moves but can't click on anything, keyboard doesn't do anything but capslock and numlock work)
[07:19] <ikonia> fryguy: interesting that bug report suggests pre.27 kernels have the problem, which doesn't tie in with your 8.04 release working
[07:19] <ziroday> Kartagis: yep, you can do that with the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:19] <heril> danaka: well, I don't know if you can mount mds images
[07:19] <heril> you can convert it to iso and mount that
[07:19] <Kartagis> thank you zibri
[07:19] <ikonia> fryguy: I'm wondering if 8.04 > didn't support this speed stepping so didn't have the problem
[07:19] <Kartagis> ziroday*
[07:19] <heril> terryx: yes and no
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> terryx: its half a job, its native, it its not as it needs windows to run. to me its in limbo and i dont like it. plus if you decide to install properly theres all the heartache of trying to get settings and apps to a true disk. its just my opinion. some love it
[07:20] <fryguy> ikonia: 8.04 worked, 8.04.1 doesn't. i'm not sure if the kernel was updated between those 2
[07:20] <ikonia> fryguy: there was some patches yes
[07:20] <fryguy> ikonia: i'm also not convinced that this is the problem
[07:20] <ikonia> fryguy: not convinced what is the problem ?
[07:20] <onats2> ikonia, do you have any ideas?
[07:20] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> hi
[07:20] <ikonia> onats2: ideas for hwat ?
[07:20] <ikonia> what
[07:20] <terryx> and what is unix?
[07:20] <sols> noone have an answer for me?
[07:20] <terryx> like linux?
[07:20] <heril> sort of
[07:20] <cplab2-58> ikonia; i have no net connection now....and my repository is not updated....all packages are on a cd and i can install from the cd using aptoncd....but i can use it only if i install aptoncd first..
[07:21] <ikonia> terryx: unix is an operating system in the same style as linux
[07:21] <ice_cream> terryx, it is all around us
[07:21] <ice_cream> it's in the air we breathe
[07:21] <ikonia> cplab2-58: what is the name of the bin file you talk about
[07:21] <heril> it existed before linux
[07:21] <onats2> ikonia, my issue with installation of ubuntu on a machine with Asus P5Q, not detecting the sata drives
[07:21] <IdleOne> terryx, alot of these question you are asking can be easily answered with a quick google search
[07:21] <ikonia> ice_cream: come on - pleae don't be silly
[07:21] <ikonia> onats2: what is the problem though
[07:21] <ice_cream> ikonia, i know you can feel it, too
[07:21] <heril> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix has the history
[07:21] <ikonia> ice_cream: come on - pleae don't be silly
[07:21] <heril> its rather interesting
[07:22] <onats2> ikonia, on the installation process, when I reach the part where i configure partitions, the SATA drives don't appear
[07:22] <terryx> ok.. ubuntu or kubuntu which one is better?
[07:22] <ice_cream> ikonia, i could say the same to you, but  s/silly/serious/
[07:22] <heril> terryx: neither
[07:22] <ikonia> terryx: personal opinion - try them
[07:22] <terryx> ok
[07:22] <IdleOne> terryx, both/neither
[07:22] <terryx> in compare of windows(any)?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> onats2: you need to forget about makes and modeks. if you run lspci, you will see what makes up the system. That is whats important. you can then find out how to get the sata contollers working from there
[07:22] <heril> terryx: again, neither
[07:22] <ikonia> ice_cream: no - this is a support channel, giving nonsense comments to someone asking questions is not appropraite
[07:22] <heril> unless you are a diehard opensource fanperson
[07:22] <onats2> ACtionParsnip, noted. thanks for the lead
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> terryx: there is no such thing as better oor best, its all speculative
[07:23] <IdleOne> terryx, both are better then windows
[07:23] <heril> for some people windows is the right solution
[07:23] <kling0n> terryx: install ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop as a package and try them both out
[07:23] <ikonia> terryx: they are nothing like windows - try them, it's all personal opinion
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> terryx: ubuntu ships by default with gnome, kubuntu with kde.
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> terryx: i personally dislike gnome so I run kubuntu
[07:23] <terryx> is there any tools diff. in kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:23] <ice_cream> ikonia, well, you have to step out of the box a bit
[07:24] <heril> terryx: of course
[07:24] <ice_cream> ikonia, unix is not just a black and white answer
[07:24] <stooj> terryx, Yes, lots
[07:24] <ice_cream> it's an idea
[07:24] <ikonia> ice_cream: no, pleasse just respect the channels guidelines
[07:24] <rebel_kid> terryx, yes there are, try them
[07:24] <IdleOne> ice_cream, step in the box or get out the room
[07:24] <heril> though some you can switch some of them
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> terryx: no, its the exact same system witha different desktop manager
[07:24] <chilli0> hello all
[07:24] <ice_cream> it's a system
[07:24] <terryx> if i want kubuntu looks which package installer i need?
[07:24] <heril> ActionParsnip: well, some utilities are somewhat integrated into the DE
[07:24] <ikonia> terryx: kubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <chilli0> my smart mother decided to destroy her lappy lol, ive got her hard drive connected to my computer
[07:24] <chilli0> but it wont mount
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> terryx: then the subtle duferences like kate / gedit etc. but both systems can run each others apps if you instal the other libs
[07:24] <KnightWise> good morning
[07:25] <ikonia> chilli0: what happens when you try to mount it
[07:25] <kling0n> ice_cream: there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <chilli0> does anyone know how to mount it?
[07:25] <ziroday> terryx: the look or the apps?
[07:25] <chilli0> erm
[07:25] <chilli0> ill take a screen shot
[07:25] <ikonia> chilli0: just tell me
[07:25] <chilli0> it wont let me copy or past
[07:25] <kling0n> chilli0: did you put a file system on the disk?
[07:25] <terryx> first looks...
[07:25] <terryx> then i try apps
[07:25] <chilli0> kling0n:  it was a old lapptop
[07:25] <chilli0> it says
[07:26] <heril> terryx: kubuntu-desktop should install the entirety of the packages of kubuntu
[07:26] <chilli0> cannot mount volume
[07:26] <cplab2-58> ikonia; aptoncd_0.1.98-0ubuntu1.1_all.deb
[07:26] <chilli0> Details are
[07:26] <chilli0> very long
[07:26] <Yakeson_Chihiro> found: kdepasma-addons :D
[07:26] <Yakeson_Chihiro> see ya
[07:26] <ikonia> cplab2-58: sudo dpkg -i aptoncd_0.1.98-0ubuntu1.1_all.deb
[07:26] <kling0n> !pastebin | chilli0
[07:26] <chilli0> kling0n:  it wont let me copy or paste anything in the details section
[07:26] <kling0n> chilli0: put it there :)
[07:27] <ikonia> chilli0: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l" and put that into a poastebin please
[07:27] <rebel_kid> terryx, that is a flawed philosophy, the applications and the tools are far more important than the look, especially since looks are easily changed, in the words of Jeff Dunham... "Polish a turd and its still a turd"
[07:27] <minus> Hi. What kernel is Ubuntu 8.10 currently using?
[07:27] <IdleOne> chilli0, take the screen and paste it somewhere and give the link
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> terryx: you need to leave words lik "best" and "better" its all speculative...its like asking "Which iis best..coke or pepsi"
[07:27] <chilli0> ok
[07:27] <ikonia> minus: .2.6.27
[07:27] <cplab2-58> ikonia; is it necessaary that first i have to get the terminal prompt to the cd drive
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> terryx: there is no answer, neither is "better", neither is "best"
[07:27] <minus> ikonia; Thank you.
[07:27] <Sinister`> anyone know anything about cooling a cpu i was going to drill a cpu heat sink run 4 3/8's copper lines going in and 4 1/4 inch lines going across anyone have any ideas ?
[07:27] <ikonia> cplab2-58: yes
[07:27] <jimjimhim> I am trying to exit X11 and go to a terminal in 8.10 and it wont let me with Ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:27] <apassi> exit
[07:28] <ikonia> Sinister`: thats offtopic here, try ##hardware
[07:28] <kling0n> jimjimhim: try ctrl-alt-f1
[07:28] <jimjimhim> thanks
[07:28] <cplab2-58> ikonia; okk thanxx
[07:28] <Sinister`> well im using ubuntu
[07:28] <ikonia> Sinister`: thats offtopic here, try ##hardware
[07:28] <heril> Sinister`: irrelevant
[07:29] <chilli0> http://60.241.57.136/error.png
[07:29] <chilli0> there
[07:29] <ice_cream> you should use a more well-known pic hosting service
[07:29] <ikonia> chilli0: please issue the commands ?I suggested and put them in a pastebin please.
[07:29] <ice_cream> that loads the pictures faster
[07:29] <Sinister`> i just hate new people
[07:30] <ikonia> Sinister`: I'm not impressed with your offtopic chatter, this is a support channel only, please keep the rest to yourself
[07:30] <terryx> so there is no best of the best in linux flavour
[07:30] <terryx> all are good?
[07:30] <heril> terryx: perhaps
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> terryx: correct
[07:30] <chilli0> ikonia:  did you not read what i said?
[07:30] <chilli0> i cannot copy or paste what is in  the details section
[07:30] <ice_cream> terryx, what's the best food
[07:30] <ikonia> terryx: you may want to discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:30] <heril> for some people linux is not the answer
[07:30] <terryx> i understand..
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> terryx: yhere is no best linux distro, its the one that fits the need of the user
[07:30] <ice_cream> same kind of analogy as with linux flavors
[07:30] <Sinister`> kick me or shut the fuck up ill let you pick
[07:30] <Slart> terryx: that's like asking if there is a car that is the best.. it depends on what you're looking for.. running a netbook? huge server? desktop?
[07:30] <ikonia> chilli0: you can't copy and paste in ANY pastebin service
[07:30] <nikillas> haloooooooooooooooooo!!!
[07:30] <MenZa> !coc | Sinister`, ikonia
[07:31] <nikillas> halooooooo everyone..!!!
[07:31] <nikillas> im bored....!!!
[07:31] <rebel_kid> terryx, i would say that most are good (with rare crap exception) but most are good for a purpose for example i would say *opinion* that ubuntu is great for a desktop machine but not so much for a server
[07:31] <nikillas> haloooooo...!!!
[07:31] <chilli0> ikonia:  i can't copy or paste any of the words in the details section
[07:31] <ikonia> nikillas: stop
[07:31] <chilli0> hai rebel_kid
[07:31] <nikillas> stopping..
[07:31] <ikonia> chilli0: I asked you to copy and paste the output of sudo fdisk -l
[07:31] <nikillas> hohohohhohohooo
[07:31] <chilli0> ok
[07:31] <MenZa> Sinister`: Please, watch your language in this channel. I suggest you read the Code of Conduct and the IRC guidelines before proceeding
[07:31] <nikillas> kick2
[07:31] <Sinister`> is being bored on or off topic ?
[07:31] <nikillas> hahaha
[07:31] <badcat> greetings all.
[07:31] <MenZa> !offtopic | nikillas
[07:31] <kling0n> terryx: fundamentals should be pretty much the same (depending  on the kernel versions of last release) what generally decides people's choice of distro is a blend of specific use case optimizations, package manager preferences, personal taste and release policies
[07:32] <chilli0> ikonia:  sorry i didnt see that one
[07:32] <nikillas> hahha
[07:32] <nikillas> y do u kick   him
[07:32] <ice_cream> ikonia,   you're*  =)
[07:32] <MenZa> Please, nikillas. This channel is ONLY for support, not idle chatter.
[07:32] <chilli0> ikonia:  http://www.freecode.pastebin.com/m70aa965c
[07:32] <IdleOne> nikillas, your next if I am correct
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> terryx: for now id stick to the major distros like ubuntu / suse /fedora etc, then maybe youo'll get into other stuffs but for now i'd stick to the main distros til you are comfy
[07:33] <ikonia> chilli0: sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt
[07:33] <geinux> buenas
[07:33] <kling0n> chilli0: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[07:33] <terryx> what is fedora....? like ubuntu means linux flavour
[07:33] <LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_> Hi all. anybody know a good discussion irc server + channell on the websphere or java topic ? ThanX
[07:33] <terryx> ?
[07:33] <ikonia> kling0n: he doesn't need to do that
[07:33] <heril> actually no with those tips
[07:34] <jimjimhim> I am trying to install Nvidia driver and I hit Ctrl-alt-f1 and it leaves X and then I try to install but it says X is still running?
[07:34] <ikonia> LSbTJzgefXMjGRH_: not here
[07:34] <heril> need a filesystem check
[07:34] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:34] <silv3r_m00n> in nautilus is it possible to reduce the space between icons
[07:34] <silv3r_m00n> ?
[07:34] <chilli0> ikonia:  it says to do this , mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdg1 /mnt -o force
[07:34] <rebel_kid> terryx, may i direct you to google? you may find very useful information
[07:34] <MenZa> jimjimhim: X still runs in the background. Why don't you use the driver from the repositories?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> terryx: its a fork of redhat
[07:34] <ice_cream> why to such a strange mount point
[07:34] <MenZa> !nvidia | jimjimhim
[07:34] <ikonia> chilli0: it actually tells you to do that command ?
[07:34] <chilli0> yes
[07:34] <heril> actually
[07:34] <Slart> silv3r_m00n: there is a zoom feature.. in the view menu
[07:34] <heril> nevermind
[07:34] <ikonia> ice_cream: it's just a random one to test it
[07:34] <heril> I forgot you can force it
[07:34] <chilli0> ill pb 2secs
[07:35] <terryx> i don't want that much information to search on google
[07:35] <jimjimhim> MenZa,  they are not stable on my box and I already tried them.  I want the newest Nvidia one
[07:35] <heril> forcing it should mount it
[07:35] <ice_cream> mm
[07:35] <MenZa> jimjimhim: If you still wish to continue in the fashion you've started, you have to run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. I suggest you read the above link, though.
[07:35] <terryx> i am looking for 1 line answer...
[07:35] <silv3r_m00n> Slart: apart from that ?
[07:35] <MenZa> jimjimhim: fair enough: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop will kill GDM (and X). Then you should be able to proceed.
[07:35] <chilli0> http://www.freecode.pastebin.com/m2a86b4c8 ikonia
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> terryx: ubuntu is a distribution of linux, mandriva is also linux but is made by some frenc guys. They all contain essentially the same aps, just managed and installed differently dn configured to achieve a different goal
[07:35] <silv3r_m00n> keeping the size same i want to change the distance
[07:35] <ziroday> jimjimhim: you an also use envy-ng to automagically get the newest drivers for you
[07:35] <heril> terryx: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[07:36] <Slart> silv3r_m00n: take a look in gconf-editor.. in Apps/Nautilus. There might be some settings there
[07:36] <ikonia> chilli0: ok, so its in use, not dirty, great. Use the command it suggests to force it
[07:36] <ice_cream> terryx, it's not an easy answer; each distro has a community which also helps people decide..
[07:36] <chilli0> k
[07:36] <silv3r_m00n> Slart: ok right click and compact layout does it
[07:36] <terryx> ok...
[07:36] <ikonia> terryx: you may want to consider taking this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[07:36] <silv3r_m00n> Slart: can i change the number of lines that appear in filenames ?
[07:36] <heril> ikonia: its not in use, but the filesystem logs thinks its in use
[07:36] <silv3r_m00n> say only 2 lines then ....
[07:36] <ikonia> terryx: lots of people there will be happy to talk aboutthis in more detail]
[07:36] <heril> as in the ntfs filesystem
[07:36] <ikonia> heril: I know it it's NOT
[07:37] <Slart> silv3r_m00n: I have no idea
[07:37] <terryx> so all linux flavour has menu like applications places system
[07:37] <ikonia> heril: but it thinks it is, I wanted to make sure it was "in use" rather than dirty before telling him to force a mount
[07:37] <heril> terryx: no
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> terryx: yeah
[07:37] <MenZa> terryx: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place to discuss this, as it has already been mentioned. Please, /join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:38] <kling0n> terryx: desktop-oriented linux distros will have a graphical interface and (usually) a  menu of sorts...it won't necessarily be there if you install a server oriented distro
[07:38] <terryx> how to join
[07:38] <kling0n> terryx: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <chilli0> http://www.freecode.pastebin.com/m4f4b5282 ikonia
[07:39] <kling0n> chilli0: looks ok
[07:39] <kling0n> chilli0: you should be able to access the files now
[07:39] <chilli0> ok its not mounted thoe
[07:39] <ikonia> chilli0: that's frustrating it is dirty
[07:39] <kling0n> chilli0: postoutput from 'mount' command
[07:39] <ikonia> chilli0: the problem is you need to use a windows system to remove the dirty block mark "properly" with the chkdisk command
[07:39] <terryx> thanx foe helping guys bye n take care, sorry for questions but i am new to linux
[07:39] <BattousaiX2> I installed windows on another drive that overwrote the MBR.  I've followed guides that had me boot from live cd to setup grub.  Seems that I followed steps correctly, then upon rebooting I get non systems disk error.  Any ideas?
[07:40] <ikonia> chilli0: however it should be mounted
[07:40] <chilli0> http://www.freecode.pastebin.com/m7c80f464
[07:40] <chilli0> its not in media
[07:40] <Sa[i]nT> Is there a tool to configure the x server. It keeps making default configs and when I reboot, my keyboard and mouse does'nt work.
[07:40] <chilli0> there is cd and ipod in there
[07:40] <ikonia> chilli0: /dev/sdg1 on /mnt type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[07:40] <kling0n> ikonia, chilli0 try ntfsfix?
[07:40] <ikonia> chilli0: what's that - its mounted
[07:40] <davguar> Hello, is it easy to resize partitions... I have / on a 10gb partition and I want to reclaim some of it. I don't think I need more than 5gb for / ... can someone give me advice on this?
[07:40] <chilli0> ok
[07:41] <MenZa> davguar: How big is your harddrive, and what other partitions do you have?
[07:41] <chilli0> k thanks you guys
[07:42] <nomingzi> please provide me the CLI command for checking whether the new install/plug-in ethernet card is detected by Ubuntu Server ?
[07:42] <chilli0> <3 to all
[07:42] <ikonia> nomingzi: ifconfig -a
[07:42] <davguar> MenZa: 60gb total, / = 10gb,  /home = 49gb, swap = 1gb
[07:42] <KnightWise> hey guyz , do any of you know of a way to remote control your ubuntu session straight from a browser or something
[07:42] <ikonia> KnightWise: I think vnc has a browser plugin
[07:42] <MenZa> davguar: And how much of the individual partitions are you using now?
[07:42] <ikonia> KnightWise: not sure on it though
[07:43] <KnightWise> aha, i ll look into that
[07:43] <DefamedPrawn> Hi. I've got a video with an ati card and s-video out, I've got s-video to rca cables, and I want to run my tv as an external monitor. What should I do?
[07:43] <MenZa> (davguar: brb; fetching some coffee, I'll reply in 1 minute)
[07:43] <davguar> MenZa: / = 32%, /home = 82%
[07:44] <davguar> MenZa: okay
[07:44] <MenZa> davguar: Resizing your /home shouldn't be a problem, although I'd probably leave ~6GB for it
[07:45] <davguar> MenZa: ~6gb for home?
[07:45] <MenZa> davguar: Err. 6GB for /
[07:45] <MenZa> davguar: It's still early, my bad. :)
[07:45] <davguar> MenZa: right
[07:45] <davguar> :)
[07:45] <MenZa> davguar: I trust you know how to do this from a LiveCD?
[07:45] <davguar> MenZa: oh sure... but I've only ever done it destructively
[07:46] <MenZa> davguar: Well. ext partitions have always behaved nicely when resizing/moving partitions for me. gparted is a nice tool for it. :)
[07:46] <davguar> MenZa: as in I manually create and format the partitions... I don't know how to just resize them leaving the current installation in place
[07:46] <kling0n> MenZa: try booting from a live cd and use gparted... make sure to have backups though
[07:47] <osman> some there
[07:47] <davguar> MenZa: I will back up for sure... but rather not lose anything anyway.
[07:47] <kling0n> MenZa: oops
[07:47] <MenZa> davguar: It's a simple matter of right-clicking your partition, choose resize/move, and entering a new size. Press the Resize/Move button and hit Apply. :)
[07:47] <osman> hey i need help with wine
[07:48] <ikonia> osman: ask a question or look in #winehq
[07:48] <osman> i can run my game from steam in wine
[07:48] <davguar> MenZa: hmm i don't remember seeing that option... thanks I'll look into it.
[07:48] <osman> i mean cant
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> MenZa: dont forget to backup impportant data first, incase it goes belly up
[07:48] <osman> sorry
[07:48] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: I'm not the one resizing my partition ;)
[07:49] <ikonia> osman: you may want to join #winehq and ask for wine help on that as it's more specialist and wine specific
[07:49] <BattousaiX2> I installed windows on another drive that overwrote the MBR.  I've followed guides that had me boot from live cd to setup grub.  Seems that I followed steps correctly, then upon rebooting I get non systems disk error.  Any ideas?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> MenZa: yeah but advising gparted noobs who could fry their partitions is a good idea
[07:49] <kling0n> osman: go take a look at: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[07:49] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: He already stated that he's going to back it up. :)
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> MenZa: good :D
[07:52] <kaushal> when will i get FF 3.0.5 on Ubuntu 8.04
[07:52] <kaushal> since they have released it
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox
[07:53] <heril> kaushal:  when either its added to the repos or you manually install it
[07:53] <crimsun> kaushal: we're testing it currently
[07:53] <kaushal> oh ok
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: theres 3.05 in the repo, the difference in version is tiny so the difference in functionality will be marginal if noticable
[07:53] <crimsun> kaushal: if you'd like to help us test (so we can roll it out in ~24 hrs), please see #ubuntu-testing
[07:53] <skydart> How long do you anticipate the 'testing' to take?
[07:53] <kaushal> ok
[07:54] <skydart> wow, nevermind.  Thanks!
[07:54] <kaushal> crimsun, so will be released in a days time ?
[07:54] <wiehan> hi there, what do you call it and/or how do you do it, to merge the 2 hard drives so that if you have a 160Gb HD and a 250Gb HD you can 'merge' them and mount the combined one say: /home/uname/Videos so that you have a lot more space for your movies and for it to be in one neat place...
[07:55] <MenZa> wiehan: RAID?
[07:55] <crimsun> kaushal: more or less
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: have you actually seen whats different in 3.0.5?
[07:55] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, yes
[07:55] <MenZa> !raid > wiehan (Please see the private message from ubottu)
[07:55] <kaushal> stability fixes and security fixes
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: is 3.0.4 not working for you?
[07:56] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, its working fine but with issues :(
[07:56] <kling0n> wiehan: check out lvm
[07:56] <ohletmeinnowgodd> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/242520/teacher-threatens-to-call-the-cops-over-linux.html
[07:56] <x_dimitri> how does update-manager determine if  a system needs an upgrade? Iḿ trying to get it to do an upgrade (after having upgraded already)
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: have you tried apt-build installing it? to compile it. I did mine last night and its WAY faster
[07:56] <Flannel> ohletmeinnowgodd: Please don't post things like that here.  Try #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[07:56] <kling0n> wiehan: be sure to understand the implications of spanning multiple disks without parity thoughs
[07:56] <x_dimitri> it tells me my system does not need upgrading
[07:56] <kling0n> ohletmeinnowgodd: that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[07:57] <ohletmeinnowgodd> sorry
[07:57] <ohletmeinnowgodd> lol
[07:57] <ikonia> x_dimitri: upgrade from what to what
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | x_dimitri
[07:57] <x_dimitri>  ikonia:my upgrade from hardy to intrepid broke lots of stuff
[07:57] <x_dimitri> so Iḿ trying to get it to do the same upgrade again, im hopes of having it work properly this time
[07:57] <x_dimitri> ubottu: thanks, will look at that
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: intrepid isnt for everyone
[07:58] <x_dimitri> ActionParsnip: Iḿ not sure I understand what you said.
[07:58] <ikonia> x_dimitri: you need to tell update manager to not look for LTS releases, look for any release
[07:58] <kaushal> ActionParsnip, is there a docs on apt-build
[07:58] <kaushal> ?
[07:58] <x_dimitri> ikonia: it already did the upgrade, which is why itś refusing to. but Iḿ trying to force it.
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: not everyone likes or can run intrepid (8.10) and instead use 8.04 (hardy)
[07:58] <ikonia> x_dimitri: you can't
[07:59] <x_dimitri> ikonia:why not?
[07:59] <x_dimitri> ActionParsnip: hehe, I wouldn´t wanna go *there*
[07:59] <ikonia> x_dimitri: if the upgrade has already complete there is nothing left to do, attempting to re-install the base packages isn't going to happen
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: http://polishlinux.org/linux/debian/apt-build-optimize-debian/
[07:59] <x_dimitri> ikonia:what do you mean it isn going to happen? I mean, why not?
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:00] <ikonia> x_dimitri: because update-manager isn't setup to be able to do that
[08:00] <kling0n> x_dimitri: unless you've got disk corruptions there's no point in trying to reinstall packages
[08:01] <x_dimitri> ikonia: ok, here what I mean. update-manager doens't want to upgrade because it already did. Now, there must be something (a file perhaps) it uses to know if it should upgrade or not.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: i've never ran a full sweep of my system with it as it makes my system go weird while it does it and it freezes, but do apps like firefox and stuff
[08:01] <Tyler-J-B> is there anyway I can configure ALSA to where I can unmute my USB microphone and stay unmuted?
[08:01] <x_dimitri> Iḿ basically trying to understand how it does that, so I could perhaps trick it to proceed with the update
[08:01] <ikonia> x_dimitri: no, it checks the repos to make sure it's up to date
[08:01] <x_dimitri> ikonia: I see...
[08:01] <x_dimitri> ikonia: and wha does it compare it with on my system?
[08:01] <kling0n> x_dimitri: you could reinstall all your packages if you want.... but I must admit I don't see the point
[08:02] <x_dimitri> hereś why Iḿ insistend on going this route: my colleages use laptops identical to mine and they had no problems
[08:02] <Vinceman> how do you change DVD area code in linux?
[08:02] <ikonia> x_dimitri: the package, look stop trying to get it to re-upgrade update-manager isn't setup to do that, start fixing the problems
[08:02] <^Onix|DJ^> u know what i really like UBUNTU
[08:02] <Kelen> How to change the kind of shell default for a account?
[08:02] <ikonia> ^Onix|DJ^: please keep in mind this is a support channel only
[08:02] <^Onix|DJ^> but i have one powerpc imac and a can use d flash player 4 see the videos in youtube
[08:02] <ikonia> kasdaye: use the user management gui or useradd
[08:02] <x_dimitri> ikonia: well, so far I haven´t had any useful help fixing the problems and I ahven gotten very far on my own
[08:02] <kasdaye> Hey folks. I'm upgrade my server edition 8.04LTS to 8.10. Anyone know how long this ought to take?
[08:03] <ikonia> x_dimitri: then I strongly suggest you stop trying to re-update
[08:03] <^Onix|DJ^> some one can help meeeeeeeeeeee
[08:03] <^Onix|DJ^> but i have one powerpc imac and a can use d flash player 4 see the videos in youtube
[08:03] <x_dimitri> phew.. ok
[08:03] <kling0n> x_dimitri: why do you want to reinstall ? it's difficult recommending anything if you do not explain the goal/cause of your question
[08:03] <Tyler-J-B> Anybody know what I can't un-mute my USB microphone in the ALSA-mixer? I try to do so, and it doesn't stay that way. Its highly annoying.
[08:03] <ikonia> kasdaye: depends on how much needs updating and the speed of your connection/mirror
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> ^Onix|DJ^: there is no flsh plugin for powerpc
[08:04] <^Onix|DJ^> thanks
[08:04] <kasdaye> Ah, fair enough
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> ^Onix|DJ^: you can install gnash
[08:04]  * kasdaye cross fingers and hopes for a speedy update
[08:04] <demonspork> WHO WANTS HUGGLES?
[08:04] <^Onix|DJ^> am sad 4 that
[08:04] <badcat> hey all, does anyone have experience with the audio software Wired?
[08:04] <^Onix|DJ^> gnash dont work
[08:04] <ikonia> demonspork: not in this channel please
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> ^Onix|DJ^: which is an open alternative, or use swfplayer
[08:04] <x_dimitri> kling0n: an upgrade from hardy to ubuntu broke some stuff: some keys on the keyboard aren´t working, menu text in openoffice is garbled, music apps not working (rhythmbox, totem, e.t.c) the keybaord thing seems to be an X problem (eyboard works fine in the terminal)
[08:04] <ikonia> demonspork: support discussion only please
[08:04] <^Onix|DJ^> ok let me see
[08:05] <^Onix|DJ^> thanks
[08:05] <x_dimitri> kling0n: I´ve seen recommended fixes but so far nothing works
[08:05] <ikonia> x_dimitri: kebaord are controled thorugh hal in x, on 8.10
[08:05] <ottoshmidt> is it recommended to upgrade to openoffice 3.0 from third-party software?
[08:05] <predator363> god i feel stupid
[08:05] <DarkFuzion>  haha i didnt need the ati drivers lol
[08:05] <kling0n> x_dimitri: so your config got messed up... did you  change anything language related?
[08:05] <predator363> anywhoo
[08:05] <ikonia> ottoshmidt: no
[08:05] <ottoshmidt> ikonia, but how?
[08:06] <aaaa555> Hey I was wondering how do I copy over menu and panel items from one user to another? I already copied the home dir but that didn't change the menu entries or panel.
[08:06] <Vinceman> what's all this stuff they ask you to download? is it all necessary or will it just slow down your system?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: tried a clean install?
[08:06] <predator363> i have never bothered to change much of the way ubuntu looks and now im trying to get themes and such working and make me ooboontoo all pretty but i can for the life of me get any of them at all to work anyone wanna run thru some steps with me to try and teach me?
[08:07] <ikonia> ottoshmidt: wait for ubuntu to release a package
[08:07] <ottoshmidt> ikonia, :)
[08:07] <kling0n> x_dimitri: if you want to reinstall the downloaded packages you could do somthing like 'dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb' it'll take a long time though and there's no guarantee that it is the source of your issue
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: its newer versions of the packages you already have installed which will help secure / speed up / add more features to your system
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> !themes | predator363
[08:08] <predator363> HEY THANKS!! i will give those links a try but iv checked all but the last one hopefully its got some good info
[08:08] <x_dimitri> kling0n: nope, I didn change anything
[08:08] <x_dimitri> ActionParsnip: nope, I haven tried a clean install cos I can backup my stuff right now
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: well theres a few years in the heron yet, so stick with it :)
[08:09] <moon_unit> is there a way to see disk i/o by process?
[08:09] <x_dimitri> ActionParsnip: Iĺl happily revert to hardy when I can, but I really wanted the network connection manager in intrepid
[08:10] <x_dimitri> and it works great
[08:10] <ikonia> moon_unit: faily low level debugging to do that
[08:10] <Tyler-J-B> Is there any reason why I can't un-mute my USB Microphone in ALSA-mixer?
[08:10] <x_dimitri> too bad I can´t type properly
[08:10] <ikonia> x_dimitri: boot into the command line to to type and backup your stuff
[08:10] <kling0n> x_dimitri: did you try checking your keyboard settings?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> x_dimitri: ive always editted the interfaces file. I dont use network tools so I couldnt comment on that. i wouldnt base a choice of release on something like a network connectivity app
[08:11] <kling0n> x_dimitri: system-preferences-keyboard
[08:12] <Tyler-J-B> I can't seem to use my USB Microphone on Ubuntu 8.10. Logitech AK5370. I try to unmute it in ALSA Mixer, but it just automatically changed back to muted. Anybody know how to fix this issue?
[08:12] <moon_unit> well i'm having problems with too much disk i/o on my server
[08:12] <moon_unit> how would you debug what's causing that
[08:12] <jabagawee> moon_unit, describe
[08:13] <ikonia> moon_unit: what makes you think it's io problems ?
[08:13] <ikonia> moon_unit: is this home hardware or enterprise class stuff
[08:13] <moon_unit> it's a vps on a fairly idle serious box
[08:13] <moon_unit> what's causing me to think that is that i'm graphing cpu use
[08:13] <moon_unit> and at peak times iowait makes up most of it
[08:14] <incadudeF> i need help with conky
[08:14] <moon_unit> and response times are really slow
[08:14] <ikonia> moon_unit: well vps is a good cause for concern, unless you have dediated controllers per virtual server you will have io under load issues
[08:14] <aaaa555> where's the firefox profile folder located?
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> moon_unit: seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-584336.html
[08:14] <incadudeF> anyone a conky expert
[08:14] <moon_unit> i haven't, will read
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> aaaa555: ~/.mozilla
[08:14] <ikonia> moon_unit: virtual services are not meant for hi io without allocated hba's by design
[08:14] <jim_p> aaaa555, in ~/.mozilla
[08:14] <ikonia> high io
[08:14] <ikonia> no "hi"
[08:14] <aaaa555> hm i backed up my home to a new user, that should of copied it no?
[08:14] <jim_p> incadudeF, tell me and i will answer if i can help
[08:14] <ikonia> aaaa555: how did ou back it up
[08:15] <aaaa555> copy and paste
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> aaaa555: as long as you include hidden folder, yes
[08:15] <aaaa555> =S
[08:15] <aaaa555> yeah i did =S
[08:15] <moon_unit> fair enough, but i don't think that high io is actually needed
[08:15] <aaaa555> menu items didnt copy either, or panel items
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> aaaa555: you could explicitly spcify it in the selection to be sure
[08:15] <moon_unit> i wanna debug what's causing it before buying more expensive servers
[08:15] <incadudeF> i need help setting up conkyforecast_2.0
[08:15] <aaaa555> brb ill re-copy
[08:15] <Tyler-J-B> Is there any reason my USB Microphone (AK5370, Logitech), will not work in the most recent version of Ubuntu. Whenever I go into ALSA, and un-mute it, it automatically reverts to being muted. Anybody know the solution to this.
[08:16] <incadudeF> i get this error: ERROR: Error reading weather data: Invalid Partner Code.
[08:16] <incadudeF> ERROR: Location USCA1272 is not in cache.
[08:16] <incadudeF> ERROR: Failed to load the location cache
[08:16] <jim_p> incadudeF, sorry i dont know about conky forecast
[08:16] <ikonia> moon_unit: I would contact your hosting provider and complain to the and let them fix it, without access to the host, yo dont know what's going on
[08:16] <DasEI> incadudeF: ff plugins work well
[08:17] <Tyler-J-B> =/
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> incadudeF: you need to check your conky settings
[08:17] <Decepticon> how to completely delete/uninstall a program and its config files
[08:17] <Decepticon> and related files
[08:17] <Decepticon> how to completely delete/uninstall a program and its config files and related files
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: sudo apt-get --purge remove <app name> && sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:18] <hajiki> newbie here, i want to change my username in ubuntu, but i dont want to create another user. I just want to change my username and use the same password... is that possible if so how do i do it? please help...
[08:18] <Decepticon> what does the autoremove step do
[08:18] <Decepticon> what is 'autoremove' rather
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: removes orphaned dependancies
[08:18] <Decepticon> i see
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: remove only removes the app you say
[08:19] <redrebel> my connection went down while I was upgrading my ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 using  do-release-upgrade
[08:19] <Decepticon> purge gets rid of config files as well
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: if it has dependancies which are now moot, they will be left unless you autoremove
[08:19] <redrebel> it went down when it was in the after install config stage
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: yes
[08:19] <Decepticon> i see thanks
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: all configs that arent in ~/
[08:20] <Slart> hajiki: take a look at this... you might want to try it on a newly created test user first though http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008/01/31/change-user-name-on-linux/
[08:20] <redrebel> now i want to do do-release-upgrade and it says it release updates found
[08:20] <redrebel> how do I continue configuring the system??
[08:20] <hajiki> thanks Slart
[08:20] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip what about configs that arent in ~/ ?
[08:20] <Decepticon> what about them?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: any unwanted config in ~/ will need to be manually deleted
[08:20] <Decepticon> so rm ~/.crap
[08:20] <Decepticon> rm -r
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: so if you uninstall thunderbird, you will still have the emails in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird and those will need deletig if they are no longer needed, otherwise next time that config will be used if you wish to later reinstall
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: for example
[08:21] <Decepticon> i want to kill it all
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: if you run: cd ~/; ls -a
[08:21] <Decepticon> want to reinstall app as if it werent even there, fresh install
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: you will see all the config folders for your apps
[08:22] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip uh huh
[08:22] <tiyowan> Good morning, folks.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: if you dont remove those for the uninstalled apps, the config will stand the same if you reinstall so those must be manually removed, --purge does not remove those
[08:23] <Decepticon> Decepticon i see, i didnt know that
[08:23] <jxw002> Hello, how could I adjust my screen's brightness and contrast with ubuntu 8.10
[08:24] <tiyowan> jxw002: Yep.
[08:24] <tiyowan> jxw002: Right-click your panel, select Add to Panel..., and add the Brightness applet.
[08:25] <tiyowan> jxw002: That should fix you right up. :-)
[08:25] <incadudeF> ok i got it working!!! Now my desktop looks badss
[08:25] <incadudeF> badass
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: every day is a school day
[08:25] <jxw002> tiyowan: great! problem solved
[08:25] <jxw002> could I ask one more problem?
[08:26] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip thanks.
[08:26] <tiyowan> jxw002: Sure. Go ahead.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> !cookie | tiyowan
[08:26] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip ive discovered a software to stream avi from upnp media server to a playstation 3: mediatomb
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> awesome
[08:26] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Hehehe.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: is that the ps3 software or is it for streaming to?
[08:27] <jxw002> there used to be a shortcut key allowed me to adjust the brightness, but now I the same shortcut key doesn't work
[08:27] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip mediatomb is a package for ubuntu, that streams via upnp to the ps3, no software is required for ps3
[08:27] <tiyowan> jxw002: Do you remember the shortcut key?
[08:27] <elcuco> hi all, where/how can i get openoffice3 for ubuntu 8.10?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: doesnt vlc do streams like that?
[08:27] <ardchoille> Is it possible to set mouse-over text (tooltip?) for directories in nautilus?
[08:28] <maco> elcuco: the openoffice-pkgs PPA
[08:28] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip i am not aware? maybe? is it easier to configure?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: but hey if you are happy with mediatomb, don't knock it
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: what you have works so don't fix it
[08:28] <maco> elcuco: add this to your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main
[08:28] <momen> hello all when make upgrade show this massage (E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1))
[08:28] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip dunno, im just beginning this process, so im open to suggestion
[08:28] <jxw002> yes, it was a function key with a F key
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> momen: does sudo apt-get update work ok?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: try both is all i can say
[08:29] <tiyowan> jxw002: Are you running Ubuntu on a laptop?
[08:29] <jxw002> tiyowan, yes
[08:30] <crimsun> =win 21
[08:30] <crimsun> oops
[08:30] <tiyowan> jxw002: Hold on, please.
[08:30] <momen> yes
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> momen: ok, now try sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:31] <jxw002> tiyowan thank you very much
[08:31] <elcuco> maco, any known issues with that ppa?
[08:32] <tiyowan> jxw002: Hmm. Could you go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager, and please type "hotkey" in Quick Search? Then you need to check whether the hotley-setup package is enabled.
[08:32] <maco> elcuco: i havent had any...
[08:32] <momen> but when install any program using apt-get or synaptic show the same massage
[08:32] <tiyowan> er, hotkey
[08:32] <moon_unit> are my disk i/o stats going to include stuff written to /dev/null?
[08:32] <maco> elcuco: i *think* its maintained by ubuntu people and is just unofficial
[08:32] <jxw002> tiyowan: hold on a second
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> momen: does the upgrade work?
[08:33] <elcuco> i need the signature of that ppa :)
[08:33] <gh0st> hello room :)
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> !hi | gh0st
[08:33] <momen> the same problem
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> momen: ok let me websearch
[08:34] <momen> ok
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> momen: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:35] <jxw002> tiyowan: it seems to be enabled
[08:35] <gh0st> looking for some help from anyone, im up to date in every-way, using ubuntu, im on an acer aspire one (netbook) and about 42% of the time when i right click in firefox, instead of a context menu in mozilla, i get evolution mail opening. any ideas?
[08:35] <momen> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> gh0st: i'd check shortcuts and mouse setup
[08:36] <tiyowan> jxw002: Okay. I'm assuming you're running Intrepid right? 8.10? What is the model of your laptop? I'll try a websearch first to find a quickfix, otherwise we'll have to do some minor surgery. :-)
[08:36] <momen> dpkg: error processing system-tools-backends (--configure):
[08:36] <momen>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[08:36] <momen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:36] <momen>  system-tools-backends
[08:36] <FloodBot2> momen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <gh0st> where abouts would that be located?
[08:36] <davidnelson> Hi all. I'm trying to install the joe package using 'apt-get install joe' on a VPS running Ubuntu Intrepid, but it just tells me it couldn't find the package joe.... anyone got any idea what i'm doing wrong? (I updated first)
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> momen: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:36] <gh0st> in ubuntu or mozilla? id assume ubuntu since itts a global action
[08:37] <Slart> !info joe
[08:37] <Slart> davidnelson: do you have the repository "universe" enabled?
[08:37] <jxw002> tiyowan: toshiba M30 satellite, thank you very much!!!
[08:37] <davidnelson> Slart, i will check that
[08:38] <Slart> davidnelson: system, administration, software sources
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> momen: better?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> gh0st: yeah global sounds suspect
[08:38] <vtak> can I permanently mount a specific drive?
[08:39] <davidnelson> Slart, thanks, but this is via the Web to a virtual private server, using the command line.... I'll check the etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> vtak: you can have it mount at boot
[08:39] <momen> the same problem
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | vtak
[08:39] <Slart> davidnelson: ah.. ok
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> momen: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info
[08:39] <momen> ok
[08:39] <tiyowan> jxw002: Right, could you please go to your /etc/acpi directory and check whether two files with the names video_brightnessup.sh and video_brightnessdown.sh are present or not?
[08:39] <vtak> hey thanks ActionParsnip
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> momen: can you please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> !paste || momen
[08:40] <Varka> moin
[08:40] <momen> Reading package lists... Done
[08:40] <momen> Building dependency tree
[08:40] <momen> Reading state information... Done
[08:40] <momen> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:40] <momen> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[08:40] <momen> After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[08:40] <FloodBot2> momen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <ceej> hey all is this write to put at the top of a .sh file #!/bin/bash if i just want it to execute a shell command like cd some_dir && python something.py &
[08:41] <ceej> ?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> momen: in a pastebin please, its gonna be a lot
[08:41] <jxw002> tiyowan: yes, they are there
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> momen: ok now sudo apt-get install <app name>
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> momen: for multiple lines, use pastebin
[08:41] <vtak> ActionParsnip...my main problem is I use my music library from my windows partition, but when I open rhythmbox after a reboot the library is deleted and I have to re add it...would that fix this problem/
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> vtak: look into smbmount then ;)
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> vtak: ahh on the same pc?
[08:42] <momen> ok
[08:42] <vtak> yes,
[08:42] <gh0st> any ideas were id be able to find those global shortcuts/mouse config? (wouldn't mouse config be in my Xorg.conf?
[08:42] <ceej> anyone?
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> vtak: then you pretty much add your mount command to /etc/fstab but switched about  bit (and you dont need the mount command)
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> momen: can you install your app now?
[08:43] <momen> now
[08:43] <vtak> great, thank you I'll try that. :ActionParsnip:
[08:43] <momen> no
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> momen: ok can you run ls where you are now and pastebin the output
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> !paste } momen
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[08:45] <tiyowan> jxw002: Everything seems to be fine. I found a bug report of your laptop model with the Intrepid beta release detailing the same problem. So it seems to be a bug, unfortunately. :-(
[08:46] <jxw002> tiyowan: I see, thank you very much
[08:46] <tiyowan> jxw002: Wild guess. Could try using the Fn+Up Arrow and Fn-Down Arrow keys?
[08:46] <jxw002> tiyowan: just tried, it doesn't work
[08:47] <ibe_> tes
[08:47] <tiyowan> jxw002: Hmm, can't help you there, then, friend. A possible workaround would be to *manually* bind the keys to run those two scripts in the /etc/acpi directory, but I'm not experienced to know how to do that yet. :( Sorry.
[08:48] <momen> http://pastebin.com/d62b4a764
[08:48] <ari> hawoooo
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> momen: ok cool
[08:49] <jxw002> tiyowan: I will probably check out this again later,  probably someone will have some a good solution. Thank you again
[08:50] <tiyowan> jxw002: No problem, mate.
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> momen: sudo rm -f system-tools-backends; sudo apt-get --purge remove system-tools-backends; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get update
[08:50] <jxw002> tiyowan: have a nice day good bye
[08:51] <incadudeF> how do i change the metric system in conky weather to fahrenheit?
[08:51] <jbu311> hi all, I believe my repositories are out of date even after I've reloaded them...can someone check if   ubuntu already has a amarok 2.0 package release in synaptic?
[08:52] <le_mischa> jbu311: packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> incadudeF: /j #conky
[08:54] <jbu311> le_mischa, thanks
[08:54] <abarai_renji> no recent updates for intrepid?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> incadudeF: or you could perform a mathematical function to convert it manually
[08:55] <incadudeF> no one is ever on #conky
[08:55] <le_mischa> abarai_renji: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:55] <momen> thanks  ActionParsnip
[08:56] <momen> the problem solve
[08:56] <incadudeF> METRIC=0 #Should be 0 or 1; 0 for F, 1 for C      <<<I changed it to 0 but nothing changes
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> Can anyone tell me how to make OpenOffice STOP creating ~/Documents/New Document.odt and ~/Documents/New Spreadsheet.ods all the time?
[08:57] <abarai_renji> no updates, thanks le_mischa
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> momen: all better?
[08:57] <incadudeF> or do i change something in the curl
[09:05] <dayz-ivxx> whats up =p
[09:05] <hyperb0l1x> It's quiet...
[09:05] <dayz-ivxx> i know right
[09:05] <dayz-ivxx> lawl
[09:05] <hyperb0l1x> XD
[09:06] <hyperb0l1x> It's never quiet in here...
[09:06] <dayz-ivxx> i was suprised to see no one having issues but its a good thing right?
[09:06] <dayz-ivxx> xD
[09:06] <hyperb0l1x> I guess so ;x
[09:06] <dayz-ivxx> hows ur day/night goin?
[09:06] <hyperb0l1x> Pretty well (very, very early morning)
[09:06] <le_mischa> => offtopic? :P
[09:06] <hyperb0l1x> XD
[09:06] <hyperb0l1x> Sorry
[09:06] <dayz-ivxx> aww sory =(
[09:06] <incadudeF> Night all.
[09:06] <fasta> How do I spell source in dash?
[09:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:07] <dayz-ivxx> night incadudef
[09:07] <incadudeF> actually one more thing is there a link you can give me that show basic terminal commands?
[09:08] <hyperb0l1x> www.ss64.com/bash/ has a good list
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> anyone know were I can get the 1.2.4 version of the radeonhd package
[09:08] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:08] <eemadaus> I'm having a very strange problem.  Every time I move the volume wheel on my laptop, the volume thing pops up but either locks at max volume or mutes depending on which way I go, and the entire screen becomes unusable because that dialog is on top.  If I change screens with ctrl-alt-F1 then back it goes away.  This only happens if I use the wheel or the multimedia keys.  If I open the volume control and do it manually or from the volume ap
[09:08] <eemadaus> plet, no problem.  This is a fresh install of intrepid and it worked fine in hardy.  Any ideas?
[09:08] <dayz-ivxx> incadudef: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal?action=show&redirect=BasicCommands
[09:09] <Decepticon> is this a safe alias to put in .bashrc ..... alias obliterate='sudo apt-get --purge remove $1 && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo rm -r /home/decepticon/.$1/' ....... i want to say 'obliterate mediatomb' and it will apt-get --purge mediatomb, do autoremove, and delete /home/decepticon/.mediatomb/
[09:09] <Symmetria> wheee nothing like a good firefox release to put an ubuntu server under some load to see how well it handles
[09:09]  * Symmetria watches as his mirror breaks the 250mbit/second mark 
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: its not always the same name
[09:10] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip lets assume it is, ill be aware of that fact when i use the alias
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: but for the most part yes itd work
[09:10] <Linux_Galore> I can get an rpm of the radeonhd-1.2.4 package but not a deb, googled everywere
[09:10] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip, are the syntax correct in terms of the $1 and the /home/decepticon/.$1/
[09:10] <le_mischa> Linux_Galore: alien..
[09:10] <hyperb0l1x> Decepticon: It looks good; enclose the $1's in " "
[09:11] <Decepticon> alias obliterate='sudo apt-get --purge remove "$1" && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo rm -r /home/decepticon/."$1"/'
[09:11] <Decepticon> like that?
[09:11] <hyperb0l1x> That should work, though I wouldn't ever expect to see a package with spaces in its name
[09:11] <hyperb0l1x> Just a precaution :)
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: i think so check some scripts online to double check
[09:12] <Linux_Galore> le_mischa: its a major release you would think there would be a deb package, right now Ubuntu has pretty crappy support for the HD4800 series and thats fixes it
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: you could make a new user to test
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: and it wouldnt damage your home as the new user is disposable
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | Decepticon
[09:13] <Decepticon> how would i get rid of this temporary user?
[09:13] <le_mischa> Linux_Galore: no idea. i dont buy ati-cards for that reason.
[09:13] <Decepticon> and his associated files
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: sudo deluser
[09:13] <hyperb0l1x> Decepticon: userdel -r USER
[09:13] <hyperb0l1x> :-X
[09:13] <Decepticon> do not want any leftoever clutter from such an endeavor
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: or use the user gui and delete it there
[09:13] <hyperb0l1x> Decepticon: userdel -r should remove the user's home directory and mail spool
[09:13] <Decepticon> i am a clean freak as you can see
[09:13] <Linux_Galore> le_mischa: I got an ATI card because Nvidia has not released any specs and ATi has thus the radeonhd open source driver
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: you can always rm the profile in the /home folder too and there will be no clutter
[09:14] <hyperb0l1x> Decepticon: You could also remove the user from the /etc/passwd- and /etc/group- "backup" files
[09:14] <Decepticon> i see
[09:14] <hyperb0l1x> Decepticon: I'm a clean freak, too :P
[09:14] <saranya> any one  know how to convert the pdf file to word document in ubuntu, any software available for that
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: hyperb0l1x I'm a clean freak too
[09:15] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: :P
[09:15] <hyperb0l1x> aptitude purge ftw
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: but for something that agressive i'd test it
[09:15] <shauno> worth noting that'll involve messing with the sudoers file to allow your newuser
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: do you use sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ;)
[09:16] <le_mischa> ActionParsnip: definitly yes. secure > clean
[09:16] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: I stopped using apt-get when it didn't remove orphaned dependencies
[09:16] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: With that issue fixed now, I just stick with what I switched to (aptitude)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: sudo apt-get autoremove does that
[09:16] <saranya> please say any one
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> any one
[09:16] <hyperb0l1x> Cool :)
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: if you whack --purge on it it also removes THEIR configs too
[09:17] <hyperb0l1x> So --purge and --autoclean take care of orphaned dependencies and config files?
[09:17] <hyperb0l1x> aptitude purge should do the same
[09:17] <_thegod> anyone knows why i hawe someproblems on opengl lightings ?
[09:18] <hyperb0l1x> Don't want to get in a debate about which is better :-X
[09:18] <_thegod> when i use gllighting it chances anythings color ?
[09:18] <jamesish> Because your hardware sucks?
[09:18] <hyperb0l1x> ;x
[09:19] <julio33> hello this is my first time ussing irssi is the best irc client???
[09:19] <_thegod> no
[09:19] <le_mischa> julio33: there is no best client.
[09:20] <hyperb0l1x> julio33: I use it, too :) It's a pretty good client
[09:20] <julio33> but irssi is decent?
[09:20] <Hoffly> Can anyone help with sorting out sound on 8.10, have spend days trying to get it working and now i think i've royally broke it!
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> !best | julio33
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> julio33: which is best. Coke or Pepsi?
[09:20] <jamesish> Pepsi.
[09:20] <Breakdown82_> coce
[09:20] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: Agreed :)
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> julio33: correct answer: neither
[09:21] <julio33> well i think i like it because is terminal and i want to cross-compile it
[09:21] <wintermute> Hoffly: have you checked your volume control? if pcm is turned down, it can be a problem
[09:21] <_thegod> pepsi
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> julio33: neither is best, there is no best, same with irc clients, same with everything ever
[09:21] <jamesish> julio33: what does something being terminal only have to do with whether you can cross compile it?
[09:21] <hyperb0l1x> That's the beauty of open source!
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> julio33: its all individual so asking for best is a moot question
[09:21] <Hoffly> wintermute: all volumes are set to highest.
[09:21] <hyperb0l1x> You're free to choose what you want to use
[09:21] <hyperb0l1x> And how you use it
[09:21] <wintermute> Hoffly: what specifically happens? no sound, or messed up sound?
[09:22] <_thegod> i use whichewer is cheaper. pepsi or coce
[09:22] <julio33> is easier when cross compile to arm because dont need to cross compile graphic libraries
[09:22] <_thegod> but i prefer pepsi if prices are some and if there is no coce fans
[09:22] <jamesish> julio33: cross compiling'll do all that for you, though. Just do a static cross-compile.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> julio33: then to you its best. i think pidgini is best as I use most of the protocols it uses so i save space with a single client, i know millions would say it sucks millions would say its awesome
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> julio33: see my point?
[09:23] <_thegod> i think using wines is best choice to cross compilin
[09:23] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:23] <hyperb0l1x> Hello!
[09:23] <julio33> yes i think is a nice answer full of wisdom
[09:23] <MaxFrames> can you help me with a network problem?
[09:23] <_thegod> just chosing wine compatible code makes it work on linux.
[09:23] <hyperb0l1x> What's the problem?
[09:23] <julio33> actually i think like you
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> julio33: cool, not a direct rant. i just hate this "best" mentality people have
[09:24] <julio33> there is no better
[09:24] <MaxFrames> the problem happened this morning, after installing the latest ubuntu updates and rebooting (I use xubuntu 8.10)...
[09:24] <Hoffly> wintermute: Ever since install i have had no sound what so ever, i tried downloading and following the realtek driver install guide in the package i downloaded from the realtek site, however that remove all other sound drivers, and i still get no sound.
[09:24] <_thegod> yeah bests gets worse if they are expensive.
[09:24] <MaxFrames> after rebooting, I noticed an alert sign on the network connections tray icon
[09:24] <julio33> however i cant use wine on a nokia770
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> julio33: exactly, its all personal. thats why their is choice and selection
[09:25] <MaxFrames> if I right click the icon and choose Informations, it says that no valid network connection was found
[09:25] <hyperb0l1x> MaxFrames: What was it?
[09:25] <hyperb0l1x> Ah
[09:25] <MaxFrames> yet I seem to be able to use the network, ifconfig returns valid data and I can surf the web
[09:25] <hyperb0l1x> MaxFrames: Then what's the problem?
[09:25] <omshanti> how do i decompress a .bin file?
[09:25] <hyperb0l1x> omshanti: Just chmod +x it and ./it
[09:25] <julio33> when cross compiling to any other platform it could be easier
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> omshanti: you dont, its a program
[09:26] <Hoffly> wintermute: everythign else works wireless, gfx card bluetooth just no sound. I have been reading up and aparently i shoudl be using oss insted of alsa however the realtek install package removed all the OSS drivers, and i cant figure out how to re install them
[09:26] <MaxFrames> the alert sign, the "no valid network connection" alert, show something is wrong
[09:26] <omshanti> i have to burn it to a cd
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> omshanti: chmod a+x <bin file> then run it with ./<bin file>
[09:26] <_thegod> blah.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> omshanti: then your burner should be able to manage it
[09:26] <_thegod> bins has some compressed archives commonly
[09:26] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: I don't mean to criticize, but +x should be used over a+x
[09:26] <_thegod> and it depends on which type of bin it is
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: a+x just gives everyne execution rights
[09:27] <wintermute> Hoffly: try this link, it will likely be more helpful than I, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[09:27] <_thegod> elf +lzma tar gz etc..etc..
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: ok, can you ping your routers ip?
[09:27] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: But +x gives execution rights only if there are read rights
[09:27] <MaxFrames> yes I can
[09:27] <_thegod> also there is some other types like .bin iso images
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: can you ping 74.125.47.104
[09:28] <_thegod> you hawe to know what it is before trying to decompressing it.
[09:28] <omshanti> i'm using brasero disc burner but it crashes
[09:28] <MaxFrames> if I right click the net icon and choose "modify connections", all tabs are blank
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: oic nice
[09:28] <_thegod> or simply try it with any tool you find
[09:28] <Hoffly> wintermute: ok i'll have another look at that link. Thanks for trying though :)
[09:28] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: A friend showed that to me last week :P
[09:28] <hyperb0l1x> :-X
[09:28] <wintermute> Hoffly: no problem, and best of luck!
[09:28] <hackerbto> hi
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> hyperb0l1x: its a habit i got, i'll change as thats much better
[09:28] <_thegod> MaxFrames this probally means its corrupt [the executavbles resources whatewer.]
[09:28] <MaxFrames> ActionParsnip: no I can't ping that IP
[09:29] <hackerbto> can i chat
[09:29] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: Yeah, up until one or two weeks ago, I just did a+x
[09:29] <_thegod> less memory or memory errors or filesystem errors can cause
[09:29] <hyperb0l1x> ActionParsnip: Then my friend told me not to...
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: can you do: nslookup www.google.com
[09:29] <_thegod> but its generally happens because of corrupt os files.
[09:29] <MaxFrames> ActionParsnip: yes, it resolves
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: then dns is ok but your connection is bad outside your lan, can you reboot router and modem (if its external to the router) leave both off a few seconds
[09:31] <MaxFrames> I am on a corporate network
[09:31] <MaxFrames> There is no network applet in the settings manager
[09:32] <hyperb0l1x> MaxFrames: Did you try rebooting your system?
[09:32] <MaxFrames> yes multiple times
[09:32] <MaxFrames> shouldnt there be an icon for network configuration in the settings manager?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: not a clue, i dont use gnome
[09:32] <MaxFrames> or is it elsewhere located?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: but ips are resolving but no ping
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: can you instal traceroute from your install cd and run a traceroute to web sites
[09:33] <MaxFrames> what's the command(s) to check for missing/damaged packages and redownloading what's missing?
[09:34] <hyperb0l1x> MaxFrames: You could do aptitude search ~b for broken packages
[09:34] <ale__> hello
[09:34] <hyperb0l1x> MaxFrames: I don't know enough about apt-get, but I'm sure there's an equivalent command
[09:35] <ale__> hello where i find chat forum ?
[09:35] <hyperb0l1x> There's an offtopic channel
[09:35] <ale__> i don't know
[09:35] <omshanti> how can i stop my brasero disk burning program from crashing?
[09:35] <vtak> I'm sorry, I feel retarded. I'm trying to edit my fstab and I'm reading the tutorials, but I can't understand it. all i want to do is have "/media/disk" mount at startup
[09:35] <ale__> what is a offtopic channel
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> !ot | ale__
[09:36] <wintermute> vtak: you can use uuidgen on the /media/disk partition, and add it to fstab
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> vtak: ok and you need the name of the partition to mount to that folder
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> vtak: /dev/sda4 for exmample
[09:37] <Vinceman> there will never be a point in time where one can say "I have linux and that is enough, I don't need windows.."
[09:37] <vtak> wintermute: I just copy and paste it to the end of the text?
[09:37] <wintermute> vtak: the end of fstab? yes
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> vtak: if you look at fstab examples online you'll get a good idea
[09:38] <wintermute> vtak: im working on an example, is the partition ntfs?
[09:38] <hyperb0lix> Hmm, I was on #nubuntu
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> vtak: you just append a new line to that file
[09:38] <vtak> ActionParsnip: the disk is 153.7 GB media and the location is /media/disk
[09:38] <vtak> yes
[09:38] <h4cker> linux will someday surpass windows!
[09:38] <hyperb0lix> Apparently, I can't use the same nick in two Freenode channels
[09:38] <wintermute> vtak: okay, give me a minute or so, ill have an example
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> h4cker: i doubt it
[09:38] <hyperb0lix> (I don't use IRC much)
[09:38] <vtak> actionparsnip...I mean the name is 153.7 GB
[09:38] <hyperb0lix> h4cker: Eh?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> vtak: run: sudo fdisk -l
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> vtak: you will see partition names
[09:39] <h4cker> come on the future is opensource!
[09:39] <vtak> thank you wintermute and ACtionparsnip both
[09:39] <aysbg> h4cker I surely doubt that
[09:39] <vtak> actionparsnip: done
[09:39] <h4cker> Midori!
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> vtak: one will be the partition you want to mount, it will have its name
[09:40] <h4cker> Even microsoft know it.
[09:40] <wintermute> vtak: try something like this, /dev/whatever  /media/disk ntfs.3g  defaults  0 0
[09:40] <wintermute> vtak: also, you may have seen this, but if not it may help you understand: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[09:40] <vtak> ACtionparsnip: I can see the partition: /dev/sda1
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> vtak: if you have fstab you will see how the partitions match the fdisk output
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> vtak: ok so use wintermute s suggestion but replace whatever with /dev/sda1 if that is the partition to mount to /media/disk
[09:42] <Vinceman> what do the horizontal red lines indicate?
[09:42] <vtak> ok great, I think I got it. thank you wintermute and actionparsnip both.
[09:42] <hyperb0lix> Vinceman: ?
[09:42] <wintermute> vtak: no problem! just ask if you have any more questions
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> vtak: glad you understand whats going on, thats the most important bit
[09:42] <Vinceman> there's one underneath my question about them!
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> vtak: you can now fine tune to achieve your ends
[09:43] <hyperb0lix> Oh, it might be one of those lines you get at certain times
[09:43] <Vinceman> the lines in this X-chat client
[09:43] <hyperb0lix> Vinceman: Yeah, it's fine
[09:43] <Vinceman> what do they indicate?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: impeding death
[09:43] <hyperb0lix> Vinceman: I don't remember... it's an option in Xchat
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: jk
[09:44] <Vinceman> they seem to be underneath my last remark, that's all
[09:44] <Vinceman> jk?
[09:44] <hyperb0lix> Vinceman: Just kidding
[09:44] <tiyowan> Just kidding.
[09:44] <tiyowan> :-)
[09:44] <Vinceman> we all have to go some day :|
[09:44] <hyperb0lix> Vinceman: It's nothing to worry about, but you can disable it if it irks you
[09:44] <ogre> how do i determine the address of my router and my machines address?
[09:44] <Vinceman> yeah?
[09:44] <hyperb0lix> ogre: ifconfig INTERFACE
[09:45] <hyperb0lix> ogre: ipchicken.com
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Vinceman: just kidding == jk
[09:45] <tiyowan> I thin red line is a sort of indicator when you scroll up maybe?
[09:45] <tiyowan> :/
[09:45] <ale__> hello
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n1> hi there
[09:45] <hyperb0lix> Hello
[09:45] <vtak> alright one more thing, how do I give myself permission to save this fstab file.
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n1> why some versions are LTS (long term support) ?
[09:45] <hyperb0lix> asndl
[09:45] <h4cker> howdy
[09:45] <tiyowan> vtak: gksudo gedit it. :-)
[09:46] <tiyowan> vtak: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[09:46] <wintermute> vtak: if using command line, sudo/gksudo gives you temporary root/admin permission
[09:46] <welly> Hello all, I'm trying to set up my ubuntu server with a static ip address. I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces and am kind of stuck for some of the information. I've got the ip address, netmask, broadcast address but unsure where I might find gateway and network
[09:46] <ale__> i 'd like chat whit a op but i can't
[09:46] <hyperb0lix> Jeez
[09:46] <wintermute> vtak: pardon, gksudo is for graphical apps
[09:46] <MaxFrames> if any1 can help me in query... thanks :)
[09:46] <hyperb0lix> Arch Linux can be unstable
[09:47] <h4cker> netstat or if config
[09:47] <vtak> either way, it worked.
[09:47] <hyperb0lix> Screen froze up, so everything died
[09:47] <vtak> thanks guys I find an answer nearly everytime here.
[09:47] <wintermute> vtak: great to hear! good luck with linux and all that
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> welly: network will depends on netwmask and ip
[09:48]  * JeanLafitte hi eveyone
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> welly: gateway is where your pc gets its internet from
[09:48] <hyperb0lix> Haha
[09:48] <hyperb0lix> JeanLafitte: Hey, Jean
[09:48] <welly> ActionParsnip: ok, so gateway is the router?
[09:48] <hyperb0lix> JeanLafitte: How's #nubuntu doing? :P
[09:48] <h4cker> Welly: ifconfig
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> welly: yes, im guessing this is a small lan
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> welly: 192.168.0.x type network?
[09:49] <JeanLafitte> hi hypermb0lix
[09:49] <Decepticon> when using screen, if i split the screen with ctrl a S, how do i switch between the splitted windows and close them?
[09:49] <welly> h4cker: yeah, i've picked out as much info from that as I can. just those two last items i'm stuck with
[09:49] <hyperb0lix> Decepticon: Ctrl+Tab, I think
[09:49] <hyperb0lix> Decepticon: After Ctrl+A
[09:49] <hyperb0lix> Decepticon: To close, Ctrl+X, I think
[09:49] <welly> ActionParsnip: that's right.. it's actually a virtual machine running on my mac
[09:49] <h4cker> can you access your router from firefox
[09:50] <welly> h4cker: i can
[09:50] <hyperb0lix> Decepticon: Err, Ctrl+A Tab, Ctrl+A X
[09:50] <h4cker> it should be on your routers settings!
[09:50] <hyperb0lix> I don't use screen enough :P
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> welly: ok then network will be 192.168.0.0 and broadcast will be 192.168.0.255
[09:50] <Decepticon> hyperb0lix screen is ridiculous!!!
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> welly: as its a simple class c network
[09:51] <Decepticon> how can you not use it!
[09:51] <Decepticon> such an amazing app
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: i never use it
[09:51] <zetheroo> Hey, could someone help me out here ... it seems that the Kernel Panics that people have been experiencing with Ubuntu 8.10 have something to do with a certain INTEL chipset ... (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976287) ... another Ubuntu user and myself have been trying to get people with the issue to post their system hardware info and so far everyone who has posted their hardware info has the one thing in common -- the INTEL chipset .
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: my server is controlled by web interfaces when i'm external
[09:52] <ikonia> zetheroo what do you want help with ?
[09:52] <h4cker> Actionparsnip: dont you ssh?
[09:52] <zetheroo> this is a very serious issue which needs immediate attention ...
[09:52] <ikonia> zetheroo: what is teh specific chipset ?
[09:52] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip no ssh at all?
[09:53] <zetheroo> ikonia: Intel 82801H
[09:53] <hyperb0l1x> bbl
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: only to edit samba shares and run updates
[09:53] <ikonia> zetheroo and what do you want help with ?
[09:53] <hyperb0l1x> Darn nick
[09:53] <tiyowan> Um, if I wanted to delete duplicate files from my system, what tool would I use?
[09:53] <MaxFrames> if any1 can help me in query... thanks :)
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: and to pastebin my files for helping in here
[09:53] <zetheroo> ikonia: basically we are uncertain as to where to go from here ...
[09:53] <ikonia> zetheroo the bug is reported.....wait for someone to fix it
[09:54] <zetheroo> ikonia: is it reported?
[09:54] <zetheroo> ikonia: that is what I was sorta wondering too
[09:54] <ikonia> zetheroo looking at that forum post there are plenty of bugs reported to it
[09:54] <ikonia> zetheroo: what is your current running kernel
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: if you use web based stuff you can use any fools laptop rather than having to be intrusive and install other apps on their system
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: also means you can use any corp lan as they will all have web browsers installed
[09:55] <zetheroo> ikonia: well I have reverted to Hardy because I have to actually get work done :) ...
[09:55] <aysbg> hm, guys... does anyone know any standalone swf player?
[09:55] <ikonia> zetheroo ok
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: ive had a look and i can see why its useful though
[09:55] <h4cker> deception: the pros would use ssh as its much more secure!
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !swfplayer | aysbg
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> !find swf
[09:55] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip, thats true, but it also means anyone else can see youve got a web interface for administering your computer
[09:55] <zetheroo> ikonia: but one thing that is interesting is that Kubuntu 8.10 runs fine for me ....
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: not without my security passwords
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !info swf-player
[09:56] <h4cker> Actionparsnip: bruteforce
[09:56] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip, ssh at least reduces the # of fools trying to mess with you, given that both the ssh and your web administering use passwords
[09:56] <ikonia> zetheroo then it can't be kernel/chipset related
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> h4cker: my pc will block your ip after a few trys
[09:57] <h4cker> Not if im fastfluxing
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> h4cker: you can brute force ssh servers too
[09:57] <zetheroo> ikonia: the Kernels of Ubuntu 8.10 that were not working were -8 and -9
[09:57] <Decepticon> ActionParsnip theres denyhosts and fail2ban for that
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: no server which is web facing is safe
[09:57] <rww> Decepticon: not if, to use h4cker's jargon, he's fastfluxing
[09:57] <h4cker> But if they use blowfish or twofish you cant
[09:57] <ikonia> zetheroo -8 was a propsed kernel, so I'd advise you to do a clean install wihtout proposed repo enabled
[09:58] <Decepticon> rww what is fastfluxing
[09:58] <Decepticon> changing ips fast?
[09:58] <h4cker> a hackers best friend
[09:58] <Decepticon> and brute forcing at the same time
[09:58] <hyperb0l1x> Using Fluxbox quickly? :P
[09:58] <Decepticon> lol
[09:58] <zetheroo> ikonia: well people were having issues with even -10
[09:58] <Decepticon> is that what fastfluxing is? changing ips regularly and bruteforcing ?
[09:58] <ikonia> zetheroo again - thats proposed
[09:58] <silv3r_m00n1> hi there
[09:58] <zetheroo> ikonia: again only people with that chipset
[09:59] <zetheroo> oh
[09:59] <wintermute> hyperb0lix: but fluxbox is already inherently fast
[09:59] <tiyowan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_flux
[09:59] <h4cker> u can use AES in ssh to prevent bruteforcing
[09:59] <hyperb0l1x> wintermute: Framebuffer console!
[09:59] <rww> h4cker: you don't know what you're talking about
[09:59] <hyperb0l1x> brb, I have two irssi sessions open for some reason :O
[09:59] <silv3r_m00n1> I am looking for a web development tool like dreamweaver ... for linux .. can anybody suggest one.. I have used bluefish, quanta and kompozer
[09:59] <hyperb0l1x> Messing with my nick
[09:59] <zetheroo> ikonia: at first everyone was saying it (the kernel panics) was wireless based .... but all of us have different wifi cards
[10:00] <h4cker> Deception I would stick with SSH!
[10:00] <zetheroo> ikonia: in any case why was Intrepid released with a proposed kernel? .. has that happened before? ... is that how its always done?
[10:01] <ikonia> zetheroo it wasn't released with a proposed kernel
[10:01] <ech0s7> hi
[10:01] <ech0s7> how can i manage the power manager of harddisk on my notebook ?
[10:01] <gansc> hi
[10:01] <ikonia> zetheroo it was released with 2.6.27-7 as I recall
[10:01] <zetheroo> ikonia: I downloaded mine after the release date and it had -8
[10:01] <zetheroo> ikonia: oh you may be right
[10:01] <ikonia> zetheroo you enabled the proposed repo
[10:02] <aysbg> ActionParsnip , I just remembered that I have adobe flash player as FF plugin... so... I'm simply playing .swf files with FF... not the best solution, but good enough for me. :)
[10:02] <zetheroo> ikonia: no your right it was -7
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> aysbg: that'll do it
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> aysbg: id say it was cool, no extra space being used by an app
[10:02] <aysbg> I found several via google(God bless it!) but none really was what I needed
[10:03] <aysbg> yeah, true... not that I have problem with the free space, but with this economic crisis, we need to watch on everything! :D
[10:03] <zetheroo> ikonia: although its strange that on my wife's laptop Intrepid (the exact same one I used) is working peachy
[10:03] <Weems> is there a way to make wubi a full install?
[10:03] <Weems> overwriting windows
[10:04] <ikonia> zetheroo then I suspect it's not hardware related but a specific software package that wants to do something in a specific way which causes the panic
[10:04] <ikonia> Weems: nope
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Weems: i think you're gonna have to make some isos and backups then dd it over
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Weems: this is 1 reason i hate wubi
[10:04] <Sa[i]nT> How do I install X11 with apt-get?
[10:04] <Weems> can I use a parted live cd?
[10:05] <MaxFrames> hello... no one here to help please??
[10:05] <Weems> but I dont want to have to install ubuntu again
[10:05] <zetheroo> ikonia: I still think its important to note that everyone experiencing this kernel panic has the same INTEL chipsets
[10:05] <diso> Äîáðîãî äíÿ âñåì
[10:05] <ikonia> zetheroo maybe, maybe not
[10:05] <tiyowan> zetheroo: Um what card is this?
[10:06] <zetheroo> ikonia: not a likely coincidence
[10:06] <ikonia> zetheroo: not evenone in that forum post has that chipset
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: have you set your default gateway?
[10:06] <wintermute> ciao, everyone!
[10:06] <wintermute> .exit
[10:06] <zetheroo> ikonia: everyone who posted their hardware info does ... no?
[10:06] <zetheroo> ﻿tiyowan: card?
[10:06] <ikonia> zetheroo don't think so, all seem to be intel but not all that chipset
[10:07] <tiyowan> zetheroo: Could you give me the link to that post? I'd like to read it.
[10:07] <zetheroo> ikonia: really? any post worth mentioning?
[10:07] <zetheroo> ﻿tiyowan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=976287
[10:08] <diso> help me plz. Were is finde manual for ubuntu server x64 ? plz sprry my english is bad
[10:08] <ikonia> zetheroo: Compaq Presario F700 notebook doesn't have that chipset according to the website
[10:08] <quanlitruong> hello all :)
[10:08] <Sa[i]nT> Well, it's saying I need X. I'm in the terminal right now.
[10:08] <ikonia> diso: http://www.ubuntu.com https://help.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: sudo ip route add default via <your routers ip address>
[10:08] <Photoguy> diso, what is your native language?
[10:08] <zetheroo> ikonia: ummm ... who had that machine?
[10:09] <rww> Sa[i]nT: as I said already, sudo apt-get install xorg
[10:09] <ikonia> zetheroo first posters
[10:09] <diso> THNX
[10:09] <MaxFrames> need help. please.... network manager not working here
[10:09] <Decepticon> how long to chmod -R 755 /1TB/worth/of/data/
[10:09] <raylu> !ru | diso
[10:09] <rww> Decepticon: depends on the number of files, but probably not too long
[10:10] <raylu> Decepticon: chmod time is based on #...what he said
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: what speed hdd so you have?
[10:10] <Decepticon> ide hdd
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: all hdds are ide
[10:10] <Decepticon> at 7200rpm
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Decepticon: how much cche
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> *cache
[10:10]  * Decepticon does not know
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> shouldnt be overly long, have a brew and watch tv
[10:11] <zetheroo> ikonia: hm ... interesting ... so that one looks like its a AMD/ATI chipset ...
[10:11] <welly> does anyone know of a guide to post-installation tweaks/setup for ubuntu server?
[10:11] <aysbg> brew? ActionParsnip , where you from mate?
[10:11] <ikonia> welly depends what you want to tweak do
[10:11] <Decepticon> is this syntax correct: sudo chmod -R decepticon:decepticon 755 /media/Seagate/
[10:12] <welly> ikonia: mainly get it secured really
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> aysbg: UK
[10:12] <aysbg> thought so...
[10:12] <MaxFrames> ActionParsnip: I can surf the web, but network manager says "unmanaged device"
[10:12] <ikonia> welly stop all un-needed services, run a firewall, lock down your users, your done
[10:12] <Weems> ActioParsnip: so basically I need to just download ubuntu and install again
[10:12] <welly> ikonia: ok :) i'll do it!
[10:13] <hyperb0l1x> Hello, again
[10:13] <ikonia> welly if you want help with it ask
[10:13] <MaxFrames> right click-informations=>No valid active connection was found
[10:13] <rww> Decepticon: no. You probably want sudo chown -R decepticon:decepticon /media/Seagate/, then sudo chmod -R 775 /media/Seagate/. I don't think you can combine them.
[10:13] <aysbg> not really used word in the  british ex-colonies  ^^
[10:13] <Weems> ActionParsnip: to avoid the complexity of trading isos
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: then who cares, just close it and get on with life
[10:13] <karex> HI, i want to install anjuta completely, but I can't find libgtkmm2.0-dev and libgnomemm2.0-dev
[10:13] <Decepticon> rww oh yeah i forgot
[10:13] <hyperb0l1x> It says that my nick is already in use (by my same IP)_
[10:13] <hyperb0l1x> Any idea how to fix that?
[10:13] <rww> hyperb0l1x: is your nick registered with nickserv?
[10:13] <hyperb0l1x> I'm only in one channel now
[10:13] <hyperb0l1x> rww: I don't use IRC much; I don't think so
[10:14] <raylu> zetheroo: do you have logs of when the kernel panic happened?
[10:14] <zetheroo> ﻿raylu: no but there should be some on the forum
[10:14] <rww> hyperb0l1x: then no. Wait for your old connection to expire, change your nick to whatever you want it to be (/nick newnick), then see the instructions in !register
[10:14] <rww> !register | hyperb0l1x
[10:14] <zetheroo> ﻿raylu: I had kept a bunch but none of it made sense to me and nobody else was helping with them either
[10:15] <karex> !libgtkmm2.0-dev
[10:15] <karex> !libgnomemm2.0-dev
[10:15] <rww> hyperb0l1x: in the future, if this happens again, see /msg nickserv help ghost
[10:16] <hyperb0l1x> rww: This happened because I was also in #nubuntu (Freenode), and it changed my nick here from an i to a 1
[10:17] <hyperb0l1x> brb
[10:18] <rainabba> Can someone recommend a media player with full collection management, playlists, plugins, AND will worth with a bluetooth headset over ALSA?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rainabba: the bluetooth headset is external to the player
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rainabba: its the systems responsibility
[10:19] <tiyowan> rainabba: Um, Amarok? And I agree with ActionParsnip. The responsibillity of your bluetooth headset working is not the application's.
[10:20] <gansc> yes amarok is a good tool
[10:20] <rainabba> I know it's not up to the app to deal with the headset, but don't I have to be able to tell the app to use ALSA and THEN which device?
[10:20] <rainabba> I'll grab Amarok. Thank you.
[10:20] <Photoguy> What happens if my city is not in the weather thing!
[10:21] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Um, get the weather for the city nearest to you?
[10:21] <Photoguy> Well, can I add one?
[10:21] <Photoguy> They don't even have the capital city!
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: dont you set the system to play sounds through the bluetooth device, then amarok just plays it at that?
[10:21] <Photoguy> Jerusalem Israel.
[10:21] <tiyowan> Photoguy: I take it that you're using the weather applet in Ubuntu right?
[10:21] <Photoguy> YEs.
[10:22] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: *nod*
[10:22] <kinnaz> isnt there always same weather in desert
[10:22] <Photoguy> Is there anyway to add coordinates or somthine?
[10:22] <Photoguy> *something
[10:22] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Um. Hang on lemme check.
[10:22] <Photoguy> Thanks.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: so why would amarok need changing to be bluetooth friendly? if its using the sound settings configured systemwide?
[10:23] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: It shouldn't. rainabba's the one who wrote that.
[10:23] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Would Tel Aviv be satisfactory?
[10:23] <Photoguy> Well, no, because it.s about 2,800 feet lower.
[10:24] <Photoguy> :P
[10:24] <rainabba> tiyowan: So how do I set the BT headset to be the system-wide default?
[10:24] <Photoguy> I take it there is no way to add coordinates?
[10:24] <tiyowan> rainabba: System -> Pref. -> Sound
[10:24] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Right-click on the weather applet, select Preferences. Click on the Locations tab. Expand the entry for Israel, and see what suits you.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !sound | rainabba
[10:25] <rainabba> tiyowan: I have ALSA set for default, but I have no way to select which device there.
[10:25] <Photoguy> Ok, I guess it won't work here..thanks anyway.
[10:25] <rainabba> Sorry if I'm sounding thick, but this seems like it should be easier than it feels so far.
[10:26] <rainabba> Took me 2 hours just to get the headset paired. :(
[10:26] <tiyowan> rainabba: Is your bluetooth headset connected atm?
[10:26] <nymph> hi~~~~~~~~
[10:26] <h4cker> howdy
[10:26] <tiyowan> Photoguy: Do a google search for "ubuntu weather <yourcityname>"
[10:26] <Photoguy> Ok.
[10:26] <Photoguy> Yeah.
[10:27] <whitedox> Anybody have experience with mplayer?
[10:27] <rainabba> tiyowan: It is on and paired.
[10:27] <h4cker> whitedox: sorry dude no try google!
[10:27] <tiyowan> rainabba: Okay. Now, are the sounds from your system currently being played through the headset?
[10:28] <rainabba> tiyowan: No. No sound at all right now. Yesterday I did get something going, but I can't even remember what or how now since I was so tired at the time :)
[10:28] <rainabba> I found an app called Blueman that helped, but I don't recall what I did there either. Trying to remember now.
[10:28] <whitedox> I have tried google and have had no help. My problem is that any video I load in mplayer refuses to load, causing a bunch of error messages and followed by crashing.
[10:29] <whitedox> However, VLC and Totem run the videos fine.
[10:29] <tiyowan> rainabba: Well. First you need to do that again. Because once you get your sound going to your headset, you won't have to tweak around with any media players.
[10:29] <ikonia> whitedox what errors
[10:29] <h4cker> try a different player and see if you have the same problem
[10:29] <ikonia> !away > welly|away
[10:29] <rainabba> tiyowan: Ok, found how to explicitly connect sink (A2DP) using Blueman.
[10:30] <Kian84> Hello everybody! i have a problem with FIREFOX... after upgrading to intrepid, it seems like firefox has problem with some websites, mainly Gmail and Facebook. The problem I get is the the system becomes extremely slooow, the screen fades to gray as when the application doesn't respond and I have to close the browser to solve the problem. Earlier, I also got the problem on Presentationzen.com, where there are some YouTube files, so I suppose the problem has some
[10:30] <tiyowan> rainabba: Good. Just get your headset up. Install your media player of choice. And that's it.
[10:30] <sint> Kian84: sounds like a problem on flash
[10:30] <Kian84> sint, what about gmail?
[10:31] <never2far> any ideea how to make cron for my user to work? ...i see in logs that it executes ..but doesn't show me
[10:31] <whitedox> ikonia, First is an error of openiing/initializing  the selected video_out (-vo) device
[10:31] <sint> Kian84: let me check .. but i have the same problem with all flash sites
[10:31] <rainabba> tiyowan: If that's so, why don't I get any sound when I hit test on the "Sound Preferences" app?
[10:31] <ikonia> whitedox pastebin the whole lot
[10:31] <Photoguy> tiyowan: Apparently Jerusalem, Israel was in the older version, but not in the current version!
[10:31] <h4cker> whitedox: do you have the same problem with other players
[10:31] <tiyowan> rainabba: Because your headset isn't setup correctly.
[10:31] <Photoguy> So it's some sort of bug.
[10:32] <rainabba> tiyowan: Ok, I'm getting sound from MPlayer right now.
[10:32] <whitedox> then when I click ok, it pops up another error saying "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: init_audio_codec
[10:32] <tiyowan> rainabba: Ok. Now install Amarok, and you should be good to go.
[10:32] <whitedox> h4cker, no
[10:32] <PkL> hello everyone...
[10:32] <jseagle> hello all....
[10:32] <rainabba> tiyowan: But why no sound from the test in "Sound Preferences"?
[10:32] <h4cker> what graphics card do you have?
[10:32] <rastar> jseagle: hello
[10:32] <jseagle> requesting help if i could
[10:32] <jseagle> hello rasta
[10:32] <whitedox> And I cant pastebin it because it is in dialogue windows, with no text highlightable.
[10:32] <rastar> jseagle: on what ?
[10:32] <sint> Kian84: ok, there is no flash on gmail, than it is a problem with firefox. try using the mozilla on instead of the ubuntu one
[10:33] <PkL> whats your dilemma?
[10:33] <ikonia> whitedox copy the text then
[10:33] <whitedox> Er, type it by hand?
[10:33] <ikonia> whitedox: or take a screen shot
[10:33] <whitedox> I will do screenies
[10:33] <jseagle> well i have a Softgate 11 Mbps ap/router on which i'd like to use on my laptop but i'm clueless as to where to find drivers
[10:34] <tiyowan> rainabba: I have no clue about that buddy. If you hear sound through your headset; then I wouldn't worry about it though.
[10:34] <ikonia> jseagle you don't need drivers for the access point
[10:34] <ikonia> jseagle: the wirles card should just connect/treat it
[10:34] <jseagle> ubuntu 8.1 doesnt recognize the hardware
[10:34] <jseagle> it doesnt seem to anyways
[10:34] <raylu> whitedox: wait...are you sure you're not using gnome-mplayer or some other gui for it?
[10:34] <ikonia> jseagle you don't plug an access point into your machine
[10:34] <raylu> whitedox: mplayer alone doesn't have much of a gui
[10:34] <ikonia> jseagle: an access point goes on the network
[10:35] <jseagle> well i do if it is a PCMIA card
[10:35] <ikonia> jseagle then it's not a wirless access point
[10:35] <tiyowan> jseagle: Are you asking about how to setup the access point? Or to use your laptop to browse the web? Is the access point working right now with another computer?
[10:35] <whitedox> I will upload a screenie of what the program is. I found it in synaptic and it is just called "mplayer".
[10:36] <jseagle> its classified as a wireless card/ an AP/router
[10:36] <lord_raptor> hello
[10:36] <raylu> whitedox: how do you run the program? how are you playing videos?
[10:36] <jseagle> im trying to use it as wireless card
[10:36] <rainabba> tiyowan: I don't hear any system sounds either. Nor do I hear anything from Firefox or Opera. That is why my original question made sense to me. I was looking for an app that is compatible with my headset. If Amarok works, my immediate issue is resolved, but I don't see any evidence that audio is completely dependent on the system configuration. That's why I'm still concerned.
[10:36] <jseagle> im not interested in using the AP portion
[10:36] <PiccoloPrincipeA> hello, why my Gnome windows go "under" the bottom panel whem maximized?
[10:37] <whitedox> raylu, I "Applications , sound and video, MPlayer movie player"
[10:37] <lord_raptor> I have a question, perhaps somebody here can help me. I want to know if Ubuntu has a power management system like kubuntu does
[10:37] <vtak> I'm sorry again. how can I gain permission to save my fstab file. I tried editing it, it didn't work and now I can't even manually mount the partition because it wont give me permission
[10:37] <whitedox> And then I right click in the screen and select load video
[10:37] <tiyowan> rainabba: Unless your *system* works with your headset, no app is going to work either. At least, not to my knowledge.
[10:37] <raylu> whitedox: i suggest using the terminal and using "mplayer file.ext"
[10:37] <whitedox> There is the program
[10:37] <tiyowan> jseagle: Is your wireless access point currently working with another computer?
[10:37] <whitedox> I will try that
[10:37] <jseagle> sorry if its confusing.....
[10:38] <raylu> !who | whitedox
[10:38] <jseagle> yes but it is a desktop and should be completely unrelated
[10:38] <raylu> whitedox: with this mplayer running, try "pgrep -l mplayer"
[10:38] <rainabba> tiyowan: So then you'd say my *system* isn't working with my headset now? If so, any idea what may still be missing despite the fact that I can play audio through MPlayer?
[10:38]  * rainabba is waiting for Amarok to finish scanning his collection so he can try it also.
[10:38] <whitedox> raylu, run that while mplayer is opened?
[10:38] <raylu> whitedox: yes
[10:39] <vtak> I used to be able to double click on the partition to mount it, now I it says I don't have permission. I'm pretty sure it's because I edited the fstab document. I want to unedit it but I can't save it because again, it wont give me permission.
[10:39] <tiyowan> rainabba: I really don't know. :/ In that case, I'd give Amarok a shot. It's quite good.
[10:39] <rainabba> Thank you
[10:39] <whitedox> raylu, 30592 gmplayer
[10:39] <tiyowan> rainabba: No problem, mate.
[10:39] <raylu> vtak: what editor?
[10:39] <raylu> !info gmplayer
[10:39] <tiyowan> jseagle: Okay. Um, do you see an icon to the upper-right of your screen? Network icon?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !gmplayer
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !info smplayer
[10:40] <raylu> whitedox: i'm going to assume you're using gnome-mplayer
[10:40] <jseagle> i see my wireless "bars"
[10:40] <vtak> raylu, I just opened fstab in text editor, but I can't save the changes because I "don't have  permission"
[10:40] <raylu> whitedox: actually, that's a bad assumption. iirc, gmplayer is mplayer with gtk extensions... anyway,
[10:40] <raylu> whitedox: does running "mplayer filename.ext" from terminal work?
[10:40] <tiyowan> jseagle: Okay, good. Um, are you using the internet from your laptop *right* now?
[10:41] <whitedox> raylu, I am going to try that now
[10:41] <raylu> vtak: again, what editor?
[10:41] <jseagle> yes but im using this linksys usb network adaptor
[10:41] <Sookie> Hi
[10:41] <jseagle> works fine but i'd rather use a pcmia card
[10:41] <whitedox> raylu, terminal just spits out error messages. But I can pastebin them if you would like.
[10:42] <raylu> vtak: or just alt+f2, "gksu gedit /etc/fstab"
[10:42] <vtak> raylu, I guess I don't understand what you mean...Im using text editor...i guess it's called gedit
[10:42] <raylu> whitedox: that'd be nice
[10:42] <tiyowan> jseagle: Ah I understand now. Okay. Do you *know* the model of the wireless card which is *in* your laptop?
[10:42] <vtak> raylu thanks thats what I was looking for
[10:42] <raylu> vtak: there are a bajillion "text editor"s
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: the plastic case you see means nothing, its the chip inside you are driving
[10:42] <jseagle> ASW2201
[10:42] <Sookie> We have an Ubuntu server that runs Samba managed so far with Webmin, it has been working properly until today; Suddenly the shares stopped to appear in "Network" and I checked everything in Webmin (all ok), also I restarted the Server but the results are still the same, can anyone help me please?
[10:42] <jseagle> SoftGate i believe
[10:42] <raylu> Sookie: i'd recommend swat over webmin. also,
[10:42] <raylu> !webmin | Sookie
[10:42] <vtak> my apologies, raylu. Thanks so much for your help.
[10:42] <tiyowan> jseagle: Okay, when you try to use the wireless card which is *in* your machine, what happens? Do you see the network icon?
[10:42] <jseagle> or Quetec
[10:43] <jseagle> no I dont however the L.E.D. on the card lights and flashes
[10:43] <raylu> vtak: insteaad of removing the entries in fstab, you could just try adding the "user" option
[10:43] <whitedox> raylu, http://pastebin.com/m20405ca8
[10:43] <tiyowan> jseagle: Can you tell me the brand/model of your laptop please?
[10:43] <raylu> vtak: but you didn't need to add then because some fuse magic allows you to mount them without root permissions
[10:44] <jseagle> Compaq Armada M300
[10:44] <Sookie> well, anyway, can anyone give me some ideas about what to check in order to find out what is going out with my Samba server? thanks
[10:44] <never2far> crontab is not working for my user
[10:44] <jseagle> it's old school
[10:44] <vtak> raylu, my ultimate goal is to have my windows partition mount at startup
[10:44] <never2far> any suggestions ?
[10:44] <tiyowan> jseagle: Thank you, hang on.
[10:44] <jseagle> sorry if i confuse you but I'm a Windows convert
[10:44] <raylu> whitedox: is there anything in ~/.mplayer/?
[10:44] <vtak> I thought i was close to figuring it out
[10:44] <raylu> vtak: show me the relevant fstab line?
[10:45] <raylu> vtak: i use: UUID=A8DAC09ADAC06662 /media/win ntfs-3g user           0       0
[10:45] <whitedox> raylu. yes.
[10:46] <vtak> raylu, when I mount it, it normally goes to /media/disk it's an sda1 partition
[10:46] <raylu> whitedox: what's in ~/.mplayer/config?
[10:46] <tiyowan> jseagle: According to this, your laptop doesn't come with an in-built wireless card. Thus, you're using the Softgate one right?
[10:46] <vtak> or ntfs1 shoot I forget (raylu)
[10:46] <jseagle> yes
[10:46] <jseagle> i never claimed it has a built in wireless
[10:46] <whitedox> raylu: # Write your default config options here!
[10:46] <whitedox> lol
[10:46] <tiyowan> jseagle: Okay, could you provide me with the model of that card?
[10:46] <raylu> vtak: "sudo fdisk-l" will give you the device
[10:46] <jseagle> thus i said a PCMIA card
[10:46] <jseagle> asw2201
[10:47] <raylu> whitedox: for now, try "mv
[10:47] <raylu> er.
[10:47] <tiyowan> jseagle: My mistake, buddy. :-) Hang on.
[10:47] <jseagle> sure
[10:47] <raylu> whitedox: for now, try "mv .mplayer .mplayer-tmp"
[10:47] <raylu> and reloading that video
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: run lsusb and it will give n identifier for the usb wifi. you can websearch that ID
[10:47] <whitedox> raylu, run that while mplayer is running or before?
[10:47] <jseagle> for what?
[10:47] <raylu> whitedox: before
[10:47] <vtak> raylu, I'm sorry I think i messed something up...my terminal won't work and I think I need to reboot (something about not being able to create a child process)
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: or lspci
[10:48] <jseagle> usb and PCMIA are two diff hardware componnents
[10:48] <raylu> vtak: er... don't reoob
[10:48] <vtak> I'm pretty sure it's sda1 though (raylu)
[10:48] <raylu> vtak: *reboot
[10:48] <vtak> ok, raylu
[10:48] <raylu> vtak: ntfs1 is likely not a device name. could you give me the actual terminal error? (ctrl+shift+c should copy)
[10:48] <whitedox> raylu, I get this when I run that. "mv: cannot stat `.mplayer': No such file or directory"
[10:48] <jseagle> how do i run said lspci?
[10:48] <vtak> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal: raylu
[10:48] <rainabba> tiyowan: This will explain what I'm up against (and contains the solution I needed for Amarok) - http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices#Alsaconfiguration
[10:48] <raylu> whitedox: oh, you're not in your home directory. either "cd" first or "mv ~/.mplayer ~/.mplayer-tmp"
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: it will show up in one of the scans, im unsure of which scans pcmcia, i know they are different, but the pcmcia connector may be coonect via the usb hub
[10:49] <raylu> vtak: o.0, that's strange. what happens if you type a simple command like cd or ls?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: so its worth checking both
[10:49] <vtak> raylu, it worked 2 minutes ago
[10:49] <whitedox> raylu: silly me forgot to change from the video directory >_>
[10:49] <vtak> nothing it's just a cursor that doesn't move, raylu
[10:49] <jseagle> sorry how do i "scan"
[10:49] <raylu> vtak: you could try reopening the terminal (or ctrl+shift+t)
[10:49] <tiyowan> jseagle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128864 <- According to this thread, that particular card isn't supported.
[10:49] <gaminggeek> is there a way to just change a config in ubuntu so I can update my system to 64bit?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: lspci && lsusb
[10:50] <jseagle> in terminal?
[10:50] <gaminggeek> with out having to download a new cd and do a fresh install?
[10:50] <MaxFrames> re... how do I retrieve the list of the updates I have installed, and how do I remove a particular update? Is this even possible?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: that output will show all hardware attatched and in the system
[10:50] <raylu> gaminggeek: no, that wouldn't really make sense
[10:50] <rainabba> tiyowan: Amarok looks nice and sound is working now. Thank you again.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: always in terminal
[10:50] <gaminggeek> raylu: why not?
[10:50] <whitedox> raylu, same thing is still happening. Same crashes and all.
[10:51] <jseagle> thats a very limited thread tiyowan
[10:51] <gaminggeek> something like changing the repo to the 64 bit one and sudo apt-get updating :)
[10:51] <raylu> gaminggeek: the 64-bit install is by and large incompatible with the 32-bit stuff
[10:51] <vtak> raylu I have tried to close and reopen: besides that with this information (it's sda1 and it always mounts to /media/disk) could you help me figure out an fstab line?
[10:51] <vtak> raylu: or do I need more info
[10:51] <gaminggeek> raylu: I know I would have to install everything again
[10:51] <raylu> vtak: sure. it's enough info
[10:51] <tiyowan> jseagle: I'll do some more digging then. :-) Hang on.
[10:51] <raylu> gaminggeek: then why not just reinstall to begin with?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: if you find something in that output that looks like the adapter, begin websearching
[10:52] <raylu> whitedox: so, according to the error, mplayer is having trouble with audio
[10:52] <Andy_> !themes
[10:52] <Blood> hi
[10:52] <Blood> i need help plz
[10:52] <Andy_> hello
[10:52] <Andy_> me too :P
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Blood: ask and the room will reply
[10:52] <raylu> whitedox: i wonder what would happen if you use mplayer on an audio file
[10:52] <jseagle> actionparsnip doesnt seem to be loaded
[10:52] <Appiah> works fine
[10:52] <whitedox> raylu, I suppose. But VLC and Totem work fine. And I will try running an mp3 with it.
[10:52] <gaminggeek> raylu: because I'm too lazy to download the iso and back up all my files :P
[10:52] <Appiah> err nvm
[10:53] <h4cker> Whats the problem guys
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> jseagle: loaded?
[10:53] <raylu> gaminggeek: it's nice having a separate /home partition :D
[10:53] <Blood> i have a problem entering my Setup on a laptop HP compaq 6820s :/ they have a boot agent GE :/ how can i do to change my SATA option ? :/
[10:53] <Andy_> ]uh..i wanted to know where ic an get the theme manager..
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Blood: in bios maybe?
[10:53] <vipul982> hi
[10:53] <Andy_> well i got a theme downloaded its just a matter f using it
[10:53] <h4cker> Andy emerald is in the repositories!
[10:53] <whitedox> raylu, it plays mp3 just fine, oddly enough.
[10:54] <vipul982> new to ubuntu here
[10:54] <tiyowan> jseagle: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Quetec <- I'm sorry, your card isn't supported.
[10:54] <Andy_> yeah hacker but what if i already downloaded a theme?
[10:54] <gaminggeek> raylu: I know but I forgot when I installed
[10:54] <Blood> ActionParsnip no :/ there is not a lot of option :/ only boot sequence :/
[10:54] <kennyyu> hi there. i want to know if there is any JDK (in 32-bit) for ubuntu x86_64?
[10:54] <vipul982> Any Indian here?
[10:54] <h4cker> Ok open emerald then open your theme from emerald
[10:54] <Andy_> yeah me :P
[10:54] <raylu> whitedox: strange...
[10:55] <ikonia> vipul982 the channel is english language only so where people is doesn't matter
[10:55] <Andy_> okay illt ry tht thx
[10:55] <jseagle> tjem whom do i contact about compiling source/drivers for said card?
[10:55] <vipul982> ok
[10:55] <Andy_> yeah vipul :P...it doesnt matter
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Blood: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:55] <ikonia> jseagle what do you want to do
[10:55] <vtak> raylu, and luck on that fstab line? no rush, I just can't do anything in terminal until I reboot.
[10:55] <h4cker> It does have to be an emerald theme though! : p
[10:55] <tiyowan> ikonia: He's a got an unsupported wireless card.
[10:55] <Blood> ActionParsnip turning off my SATA option on my HDD :/
[10:55] <jseagle> make a nonsupported PCMIA card work w/ linux
[10:55] <vipul982> can anybody help me usin pidgin?
[10:55] <ikonia> tiyowan game over the
[10:55] <ikonia> then
[10:56] <Andy_> emerald is not in my repos
[10:56] <ikonia> jseagle contact the people who make the card and ask them to release a driver
[10:56] <tiyowan> ikonia: I know; I'm trying to explain that.
[10:56] <Andy_> i am using 8.0.4 LTS
[10:56] <jseagle> LoL i doubt they're still in business
[10:56] <ikonia> jseagle: buy a new card then
[10:56] <jseagle> i think it was a flyby night corp.
[10:56] <h4cker> ok in the souces you need to enable the extra repos
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> Blood: hmm, not sure of that
[10:56] <raylu> vtak: er, i already gave you mine. the uuid is from /dev/disks/by-uuid
[10:56] <vipul982> can I make calls usin pidgin to yahoo ids?
[10:56] <yudi> yuditheone
[10:57] <tiyowan> jseagle: I'd advise you to get a supported card. :-)
[10:57] <sint> hey, anyone knows how to export a spreadsheet to pdf in openoffice without pagename and sheetname?
[10:57] <mwas> Does any one knows how to access a share drive in Ubuntu like we have "y:" in windows
[10:57] <kennyyu> hi there, apart from ia32-java6-bin, how can i install java6's include headers?
[10:57] <kennyyu> for 32-bit JDK?
[10:57] <jseagle> thats not very supportive
[10:57] <ikonia> mwas mount the driver with samba
[10:57] <Andy_> uh..hacker can i pm you its a bit crowded here?
[10:57] <ikonia> jseagle: a driver doesn't exist, so you need to ge a card that is supported
[10:58] <vtak> raylu, so should I just use yours and replace it with my info
[10:58] <tiyowan> jseagle: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ <- This site contains a comprehensive list of supported cards.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> mwas: use smbmount to mount the remote folder
[10:58] <raylu> whitedox: try "mplayer -vo x11 -nosound filename.avi"
[10:58] <jseagle> then how do you create one
[10:58] <ikonia> jseagle you can't
[10:58] <h4cker> yeah cool starchat@1001 ill be waitnig
[10:58]  * tiyowan sighs.
[10:58] <raylu> vtak: yes. the mount point being at /media/disk is irrelevant
[10:58] <jseagle> linus had to start somewhere right>?
[10:58] <whitedox> raylu, I could simply not use mplayer, but it is the only player I know of that can output a vid to jpeg
[10:58] <Andy_> by enabling other sources means checking all the boxes in third party right?
[10:58] <raylu> vtak: you can set it to anywhere you want, /media/disk is fine too
[10:58] <whitedox> raylu, ok i will try
[10:58] <Blood> i did it xD
[10:58] <Blood> thanks :)
[10:58] <h4cker> yeah but not the cd one
[10:59] <ikonia> jseagle look, I'll be blunt, the driver doesn't exist, there is no documentation on the hardware api - no one is going to spent time reverse engineering a driver for you
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !smbmount | mwas
[10:59] <h4cker> Jion the starchat server and go to channel 1001 ill be there!
[10:59] <jseagle> thats what I'm wasting my time on
[10:59] <Andy_> uh
[10:59] <Andy_> okay
[10:59] <jseagle> to create one
[10:59] <vtak> raylu, (sorry for asking so many questions) could you explain the uuid thing to me , like I'm 9
[10:59] <tiyowan> Thanks, ikonia. :-)
[10:59] <vipul982> guys help me usin pidgin?
[10:59] <jseagle> because not only I but others have this card as well
[10:59] <ikonia> jseagle can you write c++, do you know the kernel api for hooking in drivers,
[10:59] <raylu> vtak: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[11:00] <ikonia> jseagle: can you reverse engineer hardware solutions ?
[11:00] <raylu> vtak: uuids are unique to partitions. sda1 may change on you
[11:00] <jseagle> no i cant say that i do but i can read and learn
[11:00] <raylu> vtak: if some other device becomes sda and your old sda moves to sdb, for example
[11:00] <ikonia> jseagle of you go though, probably take you a few years to get up to speed and get it done. Good luck
[11:00] <arthur> anybody ever use devede in here? i cant seem to get it to work
[11:00] <whitedox> raylu, that lets the video play.... now how do we make sound work?
[11:00] <jseagle> took 2 years for me to learn HTML and JAVA so i can t say that C++ is that hard to learn
[11:00] <vtak> raylu...so I need the terminal. ok I'll write all this down, reboot and see what I can do. thank you
[11:00] <raylu> whitedox: i suppose taking off the -nosound will cause the same error...
[11:01] <ikonia> jseagle off you go then
[11:01] <jseagle> thank you for the luck
[11:01] <jseagle> exit
[11:01] <raylu> vtak: there are plenty of guides for mounting ntfs partitions via fstab
[11:01] <tiyowan> *whew*
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> busy today huh guys
[11:02] <vtak>  raylu, yes I was looking at them. but, being relatively knew it's difficult to decipher.
[11:02] <vtak> but thank you, raylu
[11:02] <tiyowan> ActionParsnip: Open-source tech support is definitely *active*. :-)
[11:02] <raylu> whitedox: try it with -vo x11, without the -nosound
[11:03] <raylu> whitedox: also, try mplayer -vo x11 -ac vorbis filename.avi
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> shabba :)
[11:03] <whitedox> raylu, Do you know where the documentation to mplayer can be found? Or a way to use -nosound through the gui? Because I need to be able to output the video to a jpeg (reason for using this at all), and I have no idea how to do that through terminal. -_-
[11:03] <whitedox> raylu, ok
[11:03] <ikonia> whitedox mplayer.hu
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> tiyowan: super powers ACTIVATE!
[11:03] <raylu> whitedox: you mean you just want to capture frames?
[11:03] <gizm0> can anyone teach me how to d/l and burn ubuntu properly and success..
[11:03] <ikonia> whitedox: if you google mplayer you'll find a support irc channel and a documentation website
[11:03] <whitedox> raylu, yes
[11:03] <raylu> whitedox: man mplayer, or mplayer --help
[11:03] <gizm0> i hve an error when start install
[11:03] <Slart> !burniso | gizm0
[11:04] <gizm0> !burniso
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !work | arthur
[11:04] <whitedox> raylu, is there an easier program to capture frames by any chance? Because this is just ridiculous -_-
[11:04] <Slart> gizm0: but before you get to burn anything you need to download an iso-image of the ubuntu version you want
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Slart: and the md5sum ;)
[11:05] <Blood> what is the last version of Ubuntu ?
[11:05] <Slart> gizm0: go to http://www.ubuntu.com , at the left side of the page there will be a link to "Get Ubuntu", click that and follow the instructions
[11:05] <raylu> whitedox: not that i know of; i've never tried
[11:05] <gizm0> what is isorecorder for?
[11:05] <Blood> and what is the difference between this latest version and the 8.04 :/
[11:05] <ikonia> Blood look on wwww.ubuntu.com
[11:06] <Blood> K
[11:06] <Slart> ActionParsnip: of course.. by hand... or by creating a lisp-script to do it.. the age old initiation routine ;)
[11:06] <raylu> whitedox: but you should try the last command i gave you; i need to be asleep soon
[11:06] <gizm0> Slart : iso-image mean ubuntu desktop 8.10 iso.file?
[11:06] <whitedox> i am trying now raylu
[11:06] <Slart> gizm0: yes
[11:06] <gizm0> ok..after finish d/l i have to burn image?
[11:07] <whitedox> raylu, that last command runs it with sound
[11:07] <gizm0> no need to check anything?
[11:07] <raylu> whitedox: heh. mplayer detected the sound was ogg and then tried to decode it as an mp3. wonderful.
[11:07] <Slart> gizm0: yes.. make sure you don't just burn the file to a cd.. you have to use something like "burn as image" or "burn image to cd" in whatever cd burning software you use
[11:07] <raylu> whitedox: (vorbis = ogg)
[11:08] <gizm0> example using infrarecorder to burn image..?
[11:08] <whitedox> raylu, so how do we make it...not do that? lol
[11:08] <Slart> gizm0: you can check the checksum of the iso file if you want to make sure nothing bad happened to it when it was transfered over the internet.. but it's usually not needed
[11:08] <raylu> whitedox: i have no idea. as far as capturing video, it sounded like you had another solution for capturing video
[11:08] <tiyowan> gizm0: I'd *strongly* recommend you check the md5sum of the image when it downloads. Then verify the disc after you burn. Then *verify* it *again* when you boot from it, by selecting the check CD for errors option.
[11:08] <raylu> whitedox: but it wasn't in jpg. there are two nice image manipulation tools
[11:08] <raylu> whitedox: graphickmagick and imagemagic
[11:08] <raylu> k
[11:08] <Slart> gizm0: infrarecorder sounds like something that could burn an iso.. I've never used it myself so I can'r really help you with that
[11:08] <gizm0> tiyowan : that one make me confuse..
[11:09] <raylu> whitedox: *graphicksmagick and imagemagick
[11:09] <raylu> gah.
[11:09] <gizm0> Slart : what you usig?infra recoreder was remomended by ubuntu
[11:09] <raylu> whitedox: *graphicsmagick and imagemagick
[11:09] <raylu> whitedox: both are in the repositories. you can convert from whatever you have to jpg, most likely
[11:09] <Slart> gizm0: I'm already running ubuntu so I'm using brasero (a burning software only available on linux afaik)
[11:09] <whitedox> raylu, well, I am just needing to be able to take an AVI video and take frames from it easily.
[11:09] <raylu> whitedox: and in bulk/batch, if you so desire
[11:10] <gizm0> brasero?
[11:10] <gizm0> i dont know how to check md5..
[11:10] <raylu> whitedox: anyway, good luck with your project; i'm off to bed
[11:10] <whitedox> raylu, thanks.
[11:10] <raylu> whitedox: also, good luck with "man mplayer"...it's ginormous
[11:10] <tiyowan> gizm0: Okay. Is the iso file downloaded?
[11:10] <Slart> gizm0: infrarecorder only works on windows.. it was a long time since I used windows for burning cd's
[11:10] <whitedox> raylu. yeah...
[11:10] <LoveGuru> !md5 > gizm0
[11:11] <raylu> but mplayer is still my favorite player; afk now
[11:11] <gizm0> very hard to install the ubuntu..
[11:11] <farnsworth_> hello
[11:11] <gizm0> i already use 2 cd burn but it doesnt work..
[11:11] <gizm0> still error
[11:12] <gizm0> now i redownload it again...and hope it success..
[11:12] <Chousuke> gizm0: did you verify your ISO?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | gizm0
[11:12] <Chousuke> gizm0: a good way to ensure you get a proper ISO is to use bittorrent
[11:12] <tiyowan> gizm0: Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:13] <Chousuke> gizm0: you can even use bittorrent and save over the old file. in that case, BT will check if the file you're overwriting has any corrupt blocks and redownloads only those.
[11:13] <tiyowan> gizm0: It'll show you how to verify the md5 sum of your downloaded file, as well as how to use infra recorder to burn it.
[11:13] <vtak> one more dumb question and then I'm gone for the day. after mounting a partition how can I hide the icon on my desktop without unmounting it?
[11:13] <Chousuke> gizm0: the filename has to match though.
[11:14] <h2> hi
[11:14] <bittin> hi
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> vtak: theres a setting i gconf-editor to not show them
[11:14] <gizm0> ok2..
[11:14] <gizm0> im now download the iso
[11:14] <Slart> vtak: I don't think you can.. you can remove *all* the hard drive icons from the desktop if you want.. but not just one or two
[11:14] <farnsworth_> i use rovclock -m 100 -c 100 to underlock my radeon9200 (thinpad) and it seems to work very fine. i want that command to be executed whever i  boot. what i the best way to do that? is there a conf for rovclock or will i have to put a line into some startup-script? (which one)?
[11:15] <Slart> !boot | farnsworth_
[11:15] <Slart> !session | farnsworth_
[11:15] <farnsworth_> thx
[11:15] <vtak> Slart that's fine how can I do that (and that won't unmount the volume right): Actionparsnip i'm in configuration editor could you tell me what I'm looking for?
[11:16] <Slart> vtak: it won't unmount the volume.. just hide those icons
[11:16] <Slart> vtak: go to apps, nautilus, desktop ... there's an option there
[11:16] <gizm0> how to check the iso of 8.1 ubuntu
[11:16] <tiyowan> vtak: Go to Apps -> Nautilus -> Desktop in the left pane. In the right pane, uncheck Volumes Visible.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> vtak: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220595
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> vtak: frankly i find that setting really intrusive but you can remove it so its nice again
[11:17] <Slart> gizm0: you need to download some kind of md5 checksum tool for windows
[11:18] <gizm0> yeah already
[11:18] <gizm0> but how to compare?
[11:18] <vtak> great thanks all, I really appreciate the attention
[11:18] <Slart> gizm0: did you get the md5 checksum (a really long number)?
[11:18] <bazhang> !md5
[11:18] <whitedox> Anyone know of a simple program to capture a lot of frames at once in video files?
[11:18] <gizm0> yes
[11:18] <gizm0> b43937517a677a085b3478694a06ffd0
[11:19] <tiyowan> gizm0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes <- Compare here.
[11:19] <gizm0> that one?
[11:19] <DefamedPrawn> hi. I have a laptop with an ATI Radeon, an s-video out, and a tv set ... and I want to be able to display vid files separately on the tv. Can anybody help?
[11:19] <Slart> gizm0: you can find that number for the original file .. if it's the same number you've probably got a good copy
[11:20] <gizm0> yeah
[11:20] <gizm0> its not same..
[11:20] <ohletmeinnowgodd> what was the general chat room for ubuntu again?
[11:20] <gizm0> if not same ..have to redownload again?
[11:20] <tiyowan> ohletmeinnowgodd: ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:20] <ohletmeinnowgodd> cool thanks
[11:20] <tiyowan> gizm0: Yep. You need to re-download it.
[11:20] <ohletmeinnowgodd> connect
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> !ot | ohletmeinnowgodd
[11:21] <Slart> gizm0:  then you need to download another copy
[11:21] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ohletmeinnowgodd: thats the general chat room for ubuntu
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ohletmeinnowgodd: this is ubuntu support only
[11:21] <gizm0> Slart : huh..i need to wait another hrs..
[11:21] <gizm0> wow.. i learn a new thing today
[11:21] <gizm0> lol
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> gizm0: use torrents, its faster
[11:22] <Slart> gizm0: try using a bittorrent client
[11:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> Which one is more stable KDE or GNOME?
[11:22] <Slart> gizm0: it might be faster and it will do the checking for you
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> gizm0: or find a buddy with a faster connection
[11:22] <Slart> ohletmeinnowgodd: I think they are pretty much the same
[11:22] <gizm0> Slart : bttorent where to d/l
[11:22] <tiyowan> gizm0: Why not use this time to read up on some documentation for migrating from Windows eh?
[11:22] <gizm0> wow..very welcoming here ubuntu person..
[11:22] <gizm0> tq very much
[11:23] <Slart> gizm0: try utorrent . www.utorrent.com
[11:23]  * MaxFrames has solved the network manager issue :) => the updates had set all interfaces to "managed=false" in the nm config file
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: wtg dude
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: where is that file please?
[11:24] <Slart> MaxFrames: ahh.. so that's why it's been messing with me.. I just figured it was broken in some way
[11:24] <MaxFrames> it's located in /etc/NetworkManager and it's called nm-system-settings.conf
[11:25] <thecube> torrents are full of viruses, should i use an antivirus like clamav?
[11:25] <Sajuukkhar> hey guys im having issues starting my Samba server, but i dont know where ive gone wrong
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> MaxFrames: you have some knowledge dude, o post it on boards you find that are aving the same issue
[11:25] <MaxFrames> now the:)
[11:25] <MaxFrames> I mean just :)
[11:25] <Slart> oh.. for.. who decided using capitals in /etc was a good idea
[11:25] <tiyowan> !antivirus
[11:25] <Slart> thecube: torrents aren't full of viruses
[11:26] <Slart> thecube: generally speaking
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Sajuukkhar: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:26] <thecube> oh yes they are
[11:26] <gizm0> how to use the torrent?where to d/l
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> theres a few linux viri but they arent very wild
[11:27] <Chousuke> thecube: Linux antivirus products are designed to protect Windows, not Linux :)
[11:27] <Chousuke> !bittorrent
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> gizm0: install bitlord or utorrent and get the torrent from the ubuntu website
[11:27] <Slart> gizm0: ok.. you've downloaded utorrent, right?
[11:27] <gizm0> i mean how to put out download into torrent..
[11:27] <gizm0> yeah Slart already
[11:27] <Slart> gizm0: hang on.. let me get the url for you
[11:28] <Slart> gizm0: you want the regular 32-bit installation cd, right?
[11:28] <gizm0> yeah
[11:28] <gizm0> desktop
[11:28] <Slart> gizm0: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:29] <Chousuke> gizm0: save the download over the old file
[11:30] <gizm0> how about the download i have made just stop..?
[11:31] <tiyowan> gizm0: Um...stop any downloads. Get the torrent file. And click on that. And select Download.
[11:31] <gizm0> ok..
[11:31] <Chousuke> how fast is your internet connection?
[11:31] <gizm0> now the torrent d/l the unbuntu file
[11:31] <gizm0> i use wireless..
[11:32] <phantom1> Hi all!!! Dose ext 3 supotr files over 4GB and where is the limit?
[11:32] <Chousuke> phantom1: yes
[11:32] <gizm0> what the link of checking iso hash?
[11:32] <Chousuke> phantom1: and you will not hit the limit
[11:32] <gizm0> to compare
[11:32] <EADG> phantom1: Yes, over 4Gb
[11:32] <Chousuke> gizm0: bittorrent will do it automatically for you
[11:32] <thecube> should i use iptables and how do i do that?
[11:32] <Chousuke> gizm0: if the BT download succeeds, the file will be OK
[11:32] <gizm0> i use utorrent..
[11:32] <Slart> phantom1: wikipedia has a good article on all the limits
[11:32] <Chousuke> utorrent is a bittorrent client.
[11:33] <phantom1> Chousuke: Is the EXT4 suport stable in windows?
[11:33] <rich_> Guys, can you tell me how I can locate the origins of a rogue process?
[11:33] <phantom1> I ment EXT3
[11:33] <Chousuke> phantom1: I don't know.
[11:33] <tiyowan> gizmo0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes - if you want to double-check.
[11:33] <rich_> I have checked, inittab, crontab and rc.d* and cannot see how it is spawned on boot.
[11:33] <Slart> phantom1: stable and lacking
[11:33] <Chousuke> phantom1: you can mount ext3 drives on windows, but they're mounted as ext2
[11:33] <gizm0> ok thanks..
[11:34] <Slart> phantom1: ext2/3/4 isn't really a good option if you want to use files on windows and linux
[11:34] <EADG> thecube: man iptables     is a god place to start. There is also a gui program for iptables... althought I've forgotten the name.
[11:34] <Chousuke> use ext3 for your linux partition
[11:34] <Chousuke> and make a separate partition for files to share with windows.
[11:34] <thecube> EADG thanks man
[11:34] <Chousuke> (NTFS works)
[11:34] <MaxFrames> bye
[11:34] <digitalvectorz> hey, does anyone know how to execute key-bindings programmatically?  i.e.  I'm trying to write a bash script that opens screen -S <session>  and then in that screen session, I want to be able to open 1 program, have the bash script simulate the Ctrl+a c and run another program...any ideas?
[11:34] <gizm0> if i already install the ubuntu..all my file are lose?
[11:34] <phantom1> Oooo Im triing to partition 500Gb HD to Ntfs in lin but NTFS3G dosent see it
[11:35] <tiyowan> gizm0: Um, not unless you overwrite your partitions. Do you know what partitioning is?
[11:36] <EADG> thecube: I'm gonna look up program name, gimme a min.
[11:36] <Slart> phantom1: it's detected all my ntfs-partitions so far. perhaps you've done something wrong or missed a step somewhere
[11:36] <kennyyu> how can i install arm-linux-gcc on ubuntu?
[11:36] <thecube> ok :)
[11:36] <phantom1> Slart: It didnt let me mount it.
[11:36] <Bacta> Hi ReiserFS ate all my files. Can I get them back or would they be too badly mangled to be of any use? I had pictures of my wife in there too :(
[11:37] <ikonia> kennyyu it wont run in that it's meant for the arm platform
[11:37] <kennyyu> ikonia: ya i know
[11:37] <ikonia> kennyyu so why ask ?
[11:37] <Chousuke> Bacta: a file recovery expert may be able to help you
[11:37] <Chousuke> Bacta: but that's expensive.
[11:37] <kennyyu> ikonia: but my compiled program will be running on a mobile emulator.... ;)
[11:37] <Slart> phantom1: have you tried mounting it from a terminal? or looked in your syslog to see if there were any error messages?
[11:38] <ikonia> kennyyu so ?
[11:38] <Bacta> Can we get Reiser out? He's good at finding dead things
[11:38] <ikonia> kennyyu: that doesn't change teh fact that your local arch is nor arm
[11:38] <tiyowan> Bacta: Um, could you please explain what exactly happened?
[11:38] <phix> Slart: It is if you use ifsext2 or something like that
[11:38] <Bacta> Reiser killed my files
[11:38] <ikonia> Bacta careful please
[11:38] <EADG> thecube: Firestarter
[11:38] <kennyyu> ikonia: ya but can't i just install the toolchain on my platform for cross-compiling?
[11:38] <Bacta> Are they all zeroed out?
[11:39] <kennyyu> ikonia: sorry i may be confused...
[11:39] <ikonia> kennyyu sure yes
[11:39] <Slart> phix: I've tried a couple of those windows ext2 drivers but they were all clunky/slow or otherwise annoying
[11:39] <ikonia> kennyyu: you can certainly cross compile
[11:39] <Bacta> When ReiserFS removes a file does it zero out the HDD?
[11:39] <Chousuke> no
[11:39] <phix> Slart: fair enough
[11:39] <thecube> EADG thanks dude
[11:39] <Slart> phix: but it was some time ago.. they might have evolved
[11:39] <phix> Slart: you could just format your entire drive and install Ubuntu :)
[11:39] <kennyyu> ikonia: but what will be the relevent packages in ubuntu?
[11:39] <EADG> thecube: n/p
[11:40] <kennyyu> for cross-compiling C++ codes?
[11:40] <tiyowan> Bacta: Now I don't have any experience with this type of recovery, but, maybe this could help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/ReiserFS_Data_Recovery_Tips
[11:40] <phix> Slart: use a VitrualBox with a Windows installation if you really want to
[11:40] <ikonia> kennyyu not sure if there is a native arm port of gcc
[11:40] <ikonia> kennyyu: well, one thats pacakged up
[11:40] <Slart> phix: well.. I would.. but every now and then the gaming-devil stretches out a bony hand and pulls me back to windows
[11:40] <blackcat> olá, bom dia a todos,
[11:40] <Bacta> thank you
[11:41] <Slart> phix: I have one of those.. just for fun.. but until it does accelerated 3d it won't do my any good
[11:41] <phix> Slart: :) VMWare does, but that is commerical
[11:42] <kennyyu> ikonia: <ikonia> well, one thats pacakged up     <----you know the package name? :)
[11:42] <blackcat> algum brasilieiro por ai
[11:42] <ikonia> kennyyu I've just said I'm nosre there is one packaged up
[11:42] <tiyowan> ikonia: Would you happen to know any duplicate file removers for linux?
[11:42] <jrib> !pt | blackcat
[11:43] <ikonia> tiyowan a find script could do it
[11:43] <ikonia> tiyowan: do'nt know of an application
[11:43] <kennyyu> ikonia: uhm... thanks
[11:43] <tiyowan> ikonia: Hmm...find script, eh? Ok, thanks for the tip.
[11:43] <Slart> phix: mm... I'll wait until virtualbox does the same =)
[11:43] <allsystemsarego> tiyowan, fdupes - Identifies duplicate files within given directories
[11:43] <phix> Slart: :D
[11:44] <ikonia> tiyowan ls, sort and find in a script should do it
[11:44] <whitedox> Anyone know of a script or something that can take a bunch of screenies in an AVI. Like a screenshot every 180 seconds or something?
[11:44] <allsystemsarego> tiyowan, fslint - A utility to fix problems with filesystems' data, like duplicate files
[11:44] <ikonia> whitedox: mplayer can do that
[11:44] <ikonia> whitedox: take a screen shot or an image ever X$ seconds or frames
[11:44] <Slart> whitedox: virtualcut is nice for making screenshot-collections if that's what you want
[11:44] <Decepticon> how to get cgi script support and php support on apache2 on ubuntu 8.10
[11:45] <juro> hi, can I run Eclipse 3.4.1 on Ubuntu 8.04?
[11:45] <whitedox> ikonia, mplayer hates me and I hate him.
[11:45] <ikonia> Decepticon install the php5 package
[11:45] <allsystemsarego> whitedox, import - component of imagemagick
[11:45] <ikonia> Decepticon: cgi support is enabled by default
[11:45] <frank___1> hi everyone, what is the preferred upnp server in ubunut?
[11:45] <Decepticon> ikonia i thought there was a better way like addmod or something like that command
[11:45] <tiyowan> allsystemsarego: Thanks. :-) But I'll run with ikonia's idea. A DIY duplicate files script sounds like an excellent little project.
[11:45] <whitedox> Slart, I am basically needing to make a thumbnail sheet, will that work?
[11:45] <Decepticon> a2enmod ? is it?
[11:45] <Slart> whitedox: sorry.. videocut.
[11:45] <ikonia> Decepticon not if it's already added, and you can't "addmod" if it's not installed
[11:45] <Sajuukkhar> guys, I am going through this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 Im at the stage where im adding users to my samba server but i dont know what these two commands do : sudo smbpasswd -L -a your_username
[11:45] <Sajuukkhar> sudo smbpasswd -L -e your_username
[11:45] <Slart> whitedox: vmeare has messed with my mind.. =)
[11:45] <ikonia> Decepticon: the module has to bee instaled to be able to add it
[11:45] <EADG> tiyowan: Look at fdupes
[11:46] <Decepticon> ikonia ok i see
[11:46] <Slart> whitedox: yes, it makes thumbnail sheets.. with titles and such
[11:46] <Slart> !info videocut
[11:46] <whitedox> Slart, videocut is in the synaptic I hope?
[11:46] <Decepticon> ikonia is it libapache2-mod-php5
[11:46] <ikonia> Decepticon probably
[11:46] <Slart> whitedox: yes
[11:46] <ikonia> !away > peleg|away
[11:47] <tiyowan> EADG: Thanks. :-)
[11:48] <Decepticon> ikonia ok i got libapache2-mod-php5
[11:48] <Decepticon> sudo a2enmod php gives: ERROR: Module php does not exist!
[11:48] <Decepticon> decepticon@decepticon:~/public_html$ sudo a2enmod php5
[11:48] <Decepticon> Module php5 already enabled
[11:48] <Decepticon> cd apache2
[11:48] <ikonia> Decepticon great
[11:49]  * Panarchy says Hi
[11:49] <ikonia> Panarchy then just say hi instead of /me says hi
[11:49] <whitedox> allsystemsarego, is there a gui for imagemagick?
[11:49] <Panarchy> lol
[11:49] <HttpErrors> 1337!
[11:49] <Slart> whitedox: nothing official afaik
[11:49] <Panarchy> Okay, so here's what I need to be able to do; I need to save 23.1MB off of my remastered ubuntu .iso
[11:49] <allsystemsarego> whitedox, no, that's the whole point
[11:50] <allsystemsarego> whitedox, put "import" in a loop
[11:50] <whitedox> Slart, well I installed it from synaptic, and I have no idea how to use it...
[11:50] <whitedox> allsystemsarego, I am a noob at linux here..explain? lol
[11:50] <Slart> whitedox: imagemagik is a commandline tool.. you run it from the terminal.. after reading the huuuge manual =)
[11:51] <joaopinto> whitedox, what are you trying to achieve ?
[11:51] <psypher246> hey all, does anyone know if i run firefox in safe mode does that disable java as well?
[11:51] <whitedox> joaopinto, I need to make a thumbnail sheet.
[11:51] <Panarchy> !pastebox
[11:51] <tiyowan> psypher246: Um, check by going to do a java site?
[11:52] <Panarchy> !pastebin
[11:52] <joaopinto> whitedox, what the expected output, a big picture with thumbnails from small pictures ?
[11:52] <joaopinto> erm, small pictures with the thumbnails...
[11:52] <whitedox> joaopinto, yes
[11:52] <allsystemsarego> whitedox, ok, I made the wrong assumptions then :(
[11:52] <jrib> psypher246: should be easy enough to try and see
[11:52] <psypher246> tiyowan: goog point just though of that as well
[11:52] <tiyowan> psypher246: No worries, mate.
[11:53] <olympiakos> does anybody know any program like photoshop?
[11:53] <terryx> can't enable any effects on ubuntu
[11:53] <allsystemsarego> olympiakos, gimp
[11:53] <joaopinto> whitedox, that will required scripting knowledge, as for the imagemagick help, on the terminal just type: man convert
[11:53] <EADG> olympiakos: Gimp
[11:53] <terryx> no drivers
[11:53] <Panarchy> Okay, so here's what I need to be able to do; I need to save 23.1MB off of my remastered ubuntu .iso
[11:53] <Panarchy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87010/
[11:53] <tiyowan> terryx: What video card do you have?
[11:53] <terryx> nvdia
[11:53] <Panarchy> ^That's the output from my dpkg-l
[11:53] <Panarchy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87010/
[11:53] <Panarchy> ^That's the output from my dpkg-l
[11:53] <tiyowan> terryx: Ok...have you installed the drivers?
[11:53] <olympiakos> allsystemsarego  how can i put 2 pictures side byside with gimp?
[11:54] <whitedox> joaopinto, surely I just neeede a simple script. And there is enough of these thumnail sheets around that there must be something publicly available?
[11:54] <tiyowan> terryx: System -> Admin. -> Hardware Drivers
[11:54] <terryx> before it was fine but now don't know wt happen
[11:54] <terryx> wait
[11:54] <joaopinto> whitedox, for html based thumbnails generation there are some tools on the repositories
[11:54] <terryx> right now i am downloading nvidia-flx 177
[11:54] <psypher246> ok so no, running firefox in safe mode does not disable java, how can i completely remove java?
[11:54] <terryx> nvidia-glx 177
[11:54] <olympiakos> EADG how can i put 2 pictures side by side with gimp?
[11:54] <allsystemsarego> olympiakos, google for "gimp collage"
[11:54] <tiyowan> terryx: Are you doing this through System -> Admin. -> Hardware Drivers?
[11:54] <Sajuukkhar> guys I have a problem with my server not seeing my 500 gig hdd that DOES NOT have the OS installed on, how do I set up my Samba server to make it see the 500 gig hdd?
[11:54] <joaopinto> whitedox, thumbnailling with html yes, there are several tools for that
[11:55] <terryx> no package manager
[11:55] <terryx> its done
[11:55] <juro> anyone? Ubuntu 8.0.4 and Eclipse 3.4.1?
[11:55] <whitedox> joaopinto, I really need them to be in jpeg though for release xd
[11:55] <joaopinto> whitedox, on the package manager, search for "thumbnail"
[11:55] <terryx> just applying..wait
[11:55] <olympiakos> ok thx
[11:55] <tiyowan> terryx: Hmm...okay...now could you *go* to Hardware Drivers and check if the nvidia drivers are activated?
[11:55] <joaopinto> whitedox, well, so you will need to use imagemagick, and build yourself :P
[11:55] <EADG> olympiakos: Hehe, not sure. Best to ask in #gimp I would think ;)
[11:55] <joaopinto> whitedox, or google.com, maybe someone did it
[11:56] <whitedox> joaopinto, exactly. But I have no clue how to use it
[11:56] <olympiakos> ok eadg
[11:56] <olympiakos> thx
[11:56] <terryx> its loading..wait
[11:56] <joaopinto> whitedox, did you read it's manpage already ?
[11:56] <whitedox> joaopinto, no -_-. But from what I have gathered, it is a command line only tool with no gui.
[11:56] <terryx> by the way i have heard that i can install ubuntu on play station 2, is that true..?
[11:57] <joaopinto> whitedox, right, so you just need to learn how to use it from the command line, there are plenty of examples on the documentation, you just need to copy them and adapt
[11:57] <psypher246> or let me rather put it this way, for more than a week now i have been having major issues with firefox. realised today that it deosn't matter what browser i install (opera epiphany) the same problem exists. browsers will randomly crash, doesn't matter what the content doesn't matter what the site. driving me nuts, cannot browse at all from my daily work production machine
[11:57] <tiyowan> terryx: As long as there is a platform, someone, somewhere will try to install Linux on it. Even if it only boots. :-)
[11:57] <psypher246> pc at home is fine, also running intrepid 64, haven't run updates on it in a while though so there is a diffrence in packages
[11:58] <joaopinto> whitedox, it is something like, convert image.in -size(thumbnail_dimension) image.out
[11:58] <terryx> ok the installation is done
[11:58] <whitedox> joaopinto, is there any unofficial plugin that adds a gui?  lol I hate command line stuff for advanced stuff that uses dimensions and more then one filename  -_-
[11:58] <terryx> now i am going to hardware drivers
[11:58] <tiyowan> terryx: Right.
[11:58] <EADG> tiyowan: The Onion had a nice article on a Linux install on a potatoe.
[11:59] <joaopinto> whitedox, not that I am aware off, there is an menu applet which provides the "resize" function on nautilus
[11:59] <tiyowan> EADG: I read it. Hilarious. :-0
[11:59] <joaopinto> that would allow to create the thumbnails, but not to merge them on a single image
[11:59] <EADG> :)\
[11:59] <terryx> its open and when i enable its says downloading n installing drivers
[11:59] <terryx> showing 0%
[11:59] <tiyowan> terryx: Ok wait, and let it do its work.
[12:00] <terryx> still 0%...
[12:00] <whitedox> joaopinto, is there any alternate program that can merge the images? lol
[12:00] <whitedox> Slart, video cut was not found in the synaptic
[12:00] <terryx> do u know how can i install ubuntu or just show in ps2
[12:00] <Slart> !info videocut
[12:00] <terryx> ?
[12:01] <Slart> whitedox: have you enabled the repository "universe"? it's done in system, administration, software sources
[12:01] <whitedox> Slart, when I search that, it comes up with nothing. And yes, I have enabled universe
[12:01] <Slart> whitedox: are you using intrepid?
[12:01] <terryx> nothing still 0%...
[12:02] <whitedox> Slart, hardy
[12:02] <terryx> should i cancel this
[12:02] <Slart> whitedox: ahh.. it isn't available for hardy.. it just got included in intrepid
[12:02] <core4> mili
[12:02] <tiyowan> terryx: Hmm. Cancel. Reboot and try to enable your effects.
[12:02] <terryx> ok
[12:02] <terryx> bye
[12:03] <Irreducibilis> 1337 people!
[12:03] <Irreducibilis> And...there it goes
[12:03] <Sajuukkhar> guys how do i get my server to see my second hard drive?
[12:04] <olympiakos> #gimp
[12:06] <olympiakos> how can i put 2 pictures side by side with gimp? any clue?
[12:06] <psypher246> Please help. for more than a week now i have been having major issues with firefox. realised today that it deosn't matter what browser i install (opera epiphany) the same problem exists. browsers will randomly crash, doesn't matter what the content doesn't matter what the site. driving me nuts, cannot browse at all from my daily work production machine. pc at home is fine, also running intrepid 64, haven't run updates on it in a while though so there
[12:06] <Vinceman> it is really important to keep up to date with the latest movies, isn't it?
[12:07] <mbrouer> Hi all,,, I have been trying to ask on the samba channel, but no one is replying...
[12:07] <mbrouer> Is it normal to see huge performance difference between smbclient and smbfs? My smbclient is running around 10 times faster than smbfs
[12:07] <Vinceman> !samba
[12:07] <joaopinto> psypher246, do you have the flash plugin installed ?
[12:07] <emilien> psypher246,  we need an error , run it from < browser > from termina
[12:07] <ardchoille> I make my own .deb packages and was wondering. I usually uninstall the current one before installing a new version (my own packages). How can I just install a new one and have it completely replace the old one?
[12:07] <Sajuukkhar> mbroueri, you might be able to help me
[12:07] <psypher246> there are no errors, no flash is not the problem
[12:07] <Vinceman> mbrouer what does smbfs stand for?
[12:07] <tiyowan> psypher246: Is it a 64-bit machine?
[12:07] <psypher246> yes
[12:07] <kristof> psypher246: check if you have your swap partition swapped on, if all browsers crash, you might not have enough memory
[12:07] <emilien> psypher246,  did you try from terminal ?
[12:08] <psypher246> yes tried terminal
[12:08] <tiyowan> psypher246: Can you use java?
[12:08] <mbrouer> samba file system
[12:08] <psypher246> i have 3Gb of ram
[12:08] <joaopinto> ardchoille, installing a newer version of a package will make the previous version to be installed, that is internal to the package manager
[12:08] <sleepy_cat> Right Vinceman .. I second your Opinion
[12:08] <psypher246> well went to java site and said jav is installed
[12:08] <Sajuukkhar> mbrouer, I have a 2nd hard drive that can't be seen by my server and I don't know how to get to it ( i dont even know if it can see it)
[12:08] <Sajuukkhar> 8.10
[12:08] <joaopinto> psypher246, I do do you know the flash is not the problem ?
[12:09] <ardchoille> joaopinto: ah, so sudo dpkg -i removes the old and installs the new?
[12:09] <Vinceman> well, isn't gnome 10 times slower than a shell too?
[12:09] <joaopinto> ardchoille, yes, it does
[12:09] <ardchoille> joaopinto: Thank you
[12:09] <psypher246> joaopinto:  becuase flashpluing not installed for opera or epiphany and safe mode does not work in ff either
[12:09] <mbrouer> lol :)
[12:09] <thecube> psypher246 do u have java enabled?
[12:10] <psypher246> thecube: looks like it when i go to java site is says it's there
[12:10] <psypher246> thecube: is there a way i can test with java disbaled?
[12:10] <thecube> yes but try  with java enabled first
[12:11] <psypher246> i have
[12:12] <hischild> Can i have multiple languages installed? For example, i want xchat to use the English dictionary, but for pidgin i want the Dutch dictionary.
[12:12] <psypher246> thecube: so can i disbale java?
[12:12] <thecube> yes u can but u will have browsing problems
[12:13] <psypher246> weell i can't browse anyway so i just want to know if every borwser still crashes with java off proving it's not java
[12:16] <psypher246> how do you disable uninstall java completely?
[12:16] <joaopinto> psypher246, uninstall the package gcjwebplugin
[12:17] <joaopinto> assuming that was the plugin you have installed
[12:17] <psypher246> basic install, did not install java manually
[12:17] <joaopinto> psypher246, java is not installed by default, you installed it somehow
[12:17] <psypher246> restricted extra's maybe?
[12:17] <joaopinto> check if you have that package installed
[12:18] <joaopinto> psypher246, yes, that would install it
[12:18] <psypher246> nope gcjwebplugin no installed
[12:18] <joaopinto> just remove the "*java*" packages
[12:18] <joaopinto> probably you have sun's plugin
[12:18] <psypher246> sudo apt-get remove --purge *java*?
[12:20] <Sajuukkhar> ok guys im formatting one of my drives... one of which is a 160 gig IDE while the other is a SATA II 500 gig drive, how can I 'find' which drive im about to format?
[12:20] <psypher246> joaopinto:  sudo apt-get remove --purge *java*
[12:20] <psypher246> Reading package lists... Done
[12:20] <psypher246> Building dependency tree
[12:20] <psypher246> Reading state information... Done
[12:20] <psypher246> E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[12:20] <FloodBot2> psypher246: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <psypher246> sorry
[12:21] <amortvigil> can i edit buffers in totem because i always get fragmentated streams
[12:22] <filthpig> Hi, when I copy FLAC files over to my ipod via rhythmbox the files are converted to mp3 but keep the "FLAC-size".. I guess it's not supposed to do that?
[12:23] <psypher246> joaopinto:  sudo apt-get remove --purge *java*  E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression
[12:24] <joaopinto> psypher246, dpkg -l | grep  "^ii" | grep java
[12:25] <joaopinto> and also grep jre
[12:25] <lat> I just installed nis, but I'm getting "binding to YP server....failed." Any idea why?
[12:25] <joaopinto> lat, have you checked the logs ?
[12:26] <psypher246> joaopinto: ok that didn't make a difference, problem is not java
[12:26] <lat> joaopinto, no. Where are they?
[12:26] <joaopinto> psypher246, it crashed ?
[12:26] <joaopinto> lat, why are you using NIS in the first place ? what are you trying to achieve ?
[12:27] <Sajuukkhar> guys im trying to partition my 500 gig hdd (Im just guessing if it is my hdd) im putting in the command 'mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb2' but it isn't doing anything
[12:27] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar no, you need a partition
[12:27] <joaopinto> lat, NIS is a complex service, you need some understanding how it works, if you don't know the system logs location, is very unlikely that you have such know-how
[12:27] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: making a partition creates a partition table
[12:27] <Sajuukkhar> ok
[12:27] <ikonia> lat: nis is very complex
[12:27] <Sajuukkhar> how do I make one of this ikonia?
[12:27] <mudsplatter> how do i shoot webs
[12:28] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar use a tool such as gparted
[12:28] <ikonia> mudsplatter: shoot webs ?
[12:28] <psypher246> joaopinto: yup crashed just like b4\
[12:28] <joaopinto> psypher246, have you launched the browser from the terminal ?
[12:28] <psypher246> yes
[12:28] <joaopinto> did you get an error message ?
[12:29] <psypher246> sometimes i get errors, sometimes i don't. u can see what i have gotten on my forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1011649&goto=newpost
[12:30] <Iradieh> Excuse me, could I have someone to try out my game? SDL libs are required
[12:30] <lat> jjoaopinto dan ikonia, I just want to set up a home office lan using static ip addresses. If nis isn't needed for that, then I can uninstall it.
[12:30] <joaopinto> psypher246, judging from your forum post, you have SEVERAL plugins installed
[12:31] <ikonia> lat: %101 not needed
[12:31] <joaopinto> which are probably your crashing source
[12:31] <psypher246> no i don't i have uninstalled all extensions plugings
[12:31] <psypher246> joaopinto: this happens with ALL browsers, not just FF
[12:32] <Sajuukkhar> Ikonia, while I might have your attention, if I fdisk a hdd I haven't touched at all (brand new from comp shop) will it have 000000x000 (not exact) errors?
[12:32] <joaopinto> psypher246, I dont know about opera, but probably epiphany does also loads plugins from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[12:32] <simplexio> psypher246: your problem that forum post ?
[12:32] <toehio> hello
[12:33] <Vinceman> where's my computers hardware profile?
[12:33] <ikonia> Vinceman on the documents you got when you bought it
[12:33] <psypher246> simplexio: yes
[12:33] <Slart> Vinceman: lshw in a terminal will give you more info than you'll want =)
[12:33] <Iradieh> Excuse me, could I have someone to try out my game? SDL libs are required, just run make and the binary
[12:33] <psypher246> joaopinto: if i have uninstallled all plugins why does it still happen?
[12:33] <joaopinto> Iradieh, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:34] <lat> ikonia, thanks. I've remove nis from the system.
[12:34] <joaopinto> psypher246, did you ? I see an mplayer plugin on your plugins list, was that uninstalled ?
[12:34] <joaopinto> psypher246, ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[12:34] <toehio> I am really angry at ubuntu because I have tried with 8.04 and 8.1 with no success: when I boot it freezes at loading HALD and does not reach vesa. The only thing I changed in my computer is a new graphics card: GeForce 9600GT
[12:34] <psypher246> i uninstalled all extensions and flash, nothi9ng else
[12:34] <riegersn> Is the Nvidia + New Xorg issue fixed in 8.10 ?
[12:34] <Vinceman> is it virussed Iradieh?
[12:34] <simplexio> psypher246: is our machien stable other ways ?. that it similiar eror what friend got when he had broke ram modules
[12:35] <psypher246> simplexio: yeah the rest of the pc seems fine
[12:35] <Iradieh> Vinceman: no, source is there, just look it through
[12:35] <luke_> hi guys, could anyone help me with VRDP authentication on Ubuntu host?
[12:35] <simplexio> psypher246: if you havent got any version of ubuntu / ff work on that machine then its more likely to be problem that code
[12:35] <psypher246> joaopinto: how can i completely uninstall all plugins?
[12:35] <Vinceman> is it in the repos, Iradieh?
[12:35] <Iradieh> Vinceman: nah
[12:36] <Iradieh> Vinceman: the libs are
[12:36] <simplexio> psypher246: you could to some test with bonnie++ and burn to stress hw and see if it crashes there
[12:36] <Vinceman> I'm curious
[12:36] <Iradieh> Vinceman: download sdl, sdl_iamge and sdl_ttf
[12:36] <sleepy_cat> how to change ownership
[12:36] <Iradieh> Vinceman: http://subby.zapto.org
[12:36] <Iradieh> Vinceman: those libs are in the repo
[12:36] <simplexio> psypher246: for me it sound easiest way to find real problem. if those are ok after few runs then its ff problem
[12:37] <psypher246> simplexio: i'll try that tonight
[12:37] <psypher246> buit it's not just FF, any browser i install crashes
[12:37] <psypher246> opera, epiphany, FF
[12:37] <Sajuukkhar> how do I add a partition table?
[12:37] <Sajuukkhar> through fdisk?
[12:38] <simplexio> psypher246: thats why i suspect that problem is in hardware, usually in normal desktop usage browser is biggest in memory usage and cpu usage
[12:38] <psypher246> joaopinto: those errors on that forum they don't always appear when FF or opera crashes, in most cases there are no errors
[12:38] <psypher246> simplexio: but the rest of the pc seems fine. but i'll test it anyway, thanks
[12:39] <simplexio> psypher246: its easy to test. just start up one or two burnBX process and run bonnie++ test to all hardrives at same time
[12:39] <DefamedPrawn> any good links on network file sharing in ubuntu?
[12:39] <psypher246> simplexio: can i just boot from live cd install bonni and brun?
[12:39] <psypher246> burn*
[12:39] <simplexio> psypher246: yes
[12:39] <riegersn> Is the Nvidia + New Xorg issue fixed in 8.10 ?
[12:40] <simplexio> psypher246: but i recommend running bonnie++ same time to get maximum stress to machine. bonnie++ tests harddisk readwrite
[12:40] <psypher246> and burnbx?
[12:40] <psypher246> is that ram?
[12:40] <psypher246> like memtest86
[12:41] <simplexio> psypher246: but you use livecd you can simukate hard drive usage eunning dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M
[12:41] <wiretapped> k wiretapped
[12:42] <simplexio> psypher246: there is also program : stress (apt-get install stress ) which uses more memery than burn
[12:44] <psypher246> simplexio: sorry i'm a bit lost. bonnie++ - harddrive, burnbx - RAM??, and if i run bonnie do i need to run dd as well? and stress - RAM??
[12:46] <simplexio> psypher246: sorry i wasnt clear.. if you run ubuntu from livecd you cant use bonnie++ because it's for harddisk test. burnBX is for cpu testing. stress can do both. you can use dd intead of bonnie++ if you use livecd (aka no harddisk write access) to create usage to harddrive
[12:46] <CaneToad> anyone know why this produces a corrupted image on 8.10:
[12:46] <CaneToad> sleep 5; xwd -root -out xx.xwd; xwdtopnm xx.xwd | pnmtopng >xx.png; rm -f xx.xwd
[12:47] <psypher246> simplexio: oh ok, so i can install bonnie++ right now and test
[12:47] <simplexio> psypher246: yeas
[12:47] <simplexio> psypher246: and burn and stress
[12:47] <psypher246> and whats tests my ram, just to a memtest86 on boot?
[12:47] <Vinceman> is it normal for computers to have three usb ports and one inverse usb port?
[12:47] <simplexio> psypher246: im assuming that you are in "working" ubuntu install, those are just programs that create usage on particular subsystem
[12:48] <ubuntu008> time
[12:48] <Vinceman> close to which is a port for some ftp sorta cable
[12:48] <Vinceman> ?
[12:48] <dr_willis> Vinceman,  and 'inverse  usb port' means?
[12:48] <psypher246> yes i am currently woring on the problem OS
[12:48] <dr_willis> Vinceman,  sounds liek it may be a firewire port.. or a mini-usp
[12:48] <simplexio> psypher246: memtest86 test your ram and it tell you if you have problems. burn and stress just crash if you have problems with you hardware
[12:48] <psypher246> Vinceman: does it have cut corners?
[12:48] <Vinceman> where you could put in the back side of a usb elongabtion cable
[12:49] <psypher246> ok i'll try that out, thanks dude!
[12:49] <Vinceman> at one side not at the other side cut off corners
[12:49] <psypher246> yeah thats firewire
[12:49] <simplexio> psypher246: so actually idea is get your machine under huge load and wait some of those programs to segfault or crash which will tell oyu that you have problem in your hardware not in software
[12:50]  * diffred lol
[12:50] <ubuntu008> anyone here experience overclocking ubuntu?
[12:50] <Vinceman> are the four internal pins of firewire exactly the same?
[12:50] <olympiakos> does anybody know how can i create 2 images side by side with gimp?
[12:50] <psypher246> and i can do this on the live system while i am working on it. cool gonna start it right now]
[12:50] <dr_willis> ubuntu008,  you mean overclocking the cpus and video cards gpu Under ubuntu?
[12:50] <ubuntu008> dr_willis: yes
[12:51] <Vinceman> would you die for your country in the army?
[12:51] <riegersn> Is the Nvidia + New Xorg issue fixed in 8.10 ?
[12:51] <ubuntu008> what tools u used to OC cpu and vid cards?
[12:51] <psypher246> Vinceman: not sure, don't have a plug in front of me, maybe, but if it looks almost just like a usb port but one side the corners are cut then it's firewire
[12:51] <hischild> Vinceman, not here please.
[12:51] <danny__> hi, can anybody help me configuring a BCM4328 wireless card by using ndiswrapper?
[12:51] <Roland123> if i want to try kde and still have access to gnome, do i only need package kubuntu-desktop?
[12:51] <Vinceman> sry hischild
[12:51] <Heltskay> Hi
[12:52] <jrib> riegersn: what issue?  Did you check the bug report?
[12:52] <Heltskay> Anything wrong if I burn the iso on a dvd instead of a cd?
[12:52] <dr_willis> Roland123,  yes.. If you just want to 'try'  it  - you may want to test out a Kubuntu live CD first however...
[12:52] <Sajuukkhar> guys im making a new partition for my 500 gig hdd as it is going to be the shared folder for my samba server, am I going to make an extended partition or a primary partition?
[12:52] <hischild> Heltskay, works just as fine.
[12:52] <Vinceman> psypher246, what's the really big double size usb port for?
[12:52] <Heltskay> Thank you.
[12:52] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, just one partition? make it primary for ease.
[12:52] <dr_willis> Heltskay,  ive never had that work..  others say it will work.. :) so try your luck
[12:52] <olympiakos> does anybody know how can i create 2 images side by side with gimp?
[12:52] <Heltskay> Ok will do :)
[12:53] <dr_willis> olympiakos,  cut/paste and drag it over?
[12:53] <Vinceman> psypher246 where you could plug in a big phone cable..
[12:53] <dr_willis> well copy/paste
[12:53] <olympiakos> really?
[12:53] <T|N> gente alguien me puede decir como es el canal de ubuntu en español
[12:53] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, ok primary partition, but there are choices says p primary part. (1-4)
[12:53] <Vinceman> you mean there's a built in modem in my PC?!
[12:53] <allsystemsarego> olympiakos, www.kidsnetsoft.com/gimp/tutorial.pdf
[12:53] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, choose 1.
[12:53] <Sajuukkhar> so i type p 1?
[12:53] <psypher246> Vinceman: i rthink i know what you are talking about, i think that is like some kind of legacy usb, saw it once on a pc never used it
[12:54] <T|N> gente alguien me puede decir como es el canal de ubuntu en español?
[12:54] <SlimeyPete> !spanish
[12:54] <T|N> gracias!
[12:54] <Roland123> dr_willis: actually i don't want to just try it.. i'd like to switch to it... i have kubuntu on my laptop an like i much more than gnome.... but this computer(at the work) is not only for me.. and somebody may still want gnome
[12:54] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, I am now on the 'first cylinder' I dont understand
[12:54] <michal_> join#ubuntu-pl
[12:54] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, hit enter twice .
[12:54] <psypher246> Vinceman: you not talking about the lan port are you?
[12:54] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, now what?
[12:54] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, it's how large and where you want the partition.
[12:54] <W8TAH> i have an .m4a file out of itunes i need to play on my ubuntu laptop -- amarok says no decoder available - what do i need to install?
[12:54] <michal_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <Sajuukkhar> oh ok sweet :) thx for explaining that
[12:55] <wiretapped> vlc?
[12:55] <W8TAH> wiretapped: ok
[12:55] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no more questions? then you'd press w <enter> to write the new table. note, you'll lose all your data!
[12:55] <dr_willis> Roland123,  then Kubuntu-desktop and Kubuntu-restricted-extras will get ya going.. there are other kubuntu/kde packages you may want as well in the repos
[12:55] <michal_> join #ubuntu-pl
[12:55] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, on that disc ofcourse
[12:55] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, its a brand new disc of 500 gig
[12:55] <wiretapped> if vlc, i would prefer that
[12:55] <Vinceman> test
[12:55] <Vinceman> please reply to my message
[12:55] <Vinceman> my girl's name is Ruth
[12:55] <Vinceman> hi
[12:56] <wiretapped> personally
[12:56] <FloodBot2> Vinceman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:56] <michal_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:56] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, alright, then it's safe to press w and then enter.
[12:56] <hischild> !ot | Vinceman
[12:56] <Vinceman> i was just testing something
[12:56] <Iradieh> Excuse me, could I have someone to try out my game? SDL libs are required, just run make and the binary. Source is there as well, just take a look
[12:56] <Vinceman> did my girl's name come over?
[12:56] <hischild> Vinceman, not in here.
[12:56] <wiretapped> vinceman: yes
[12:56] <Vinceman> but your replies didn't come back
[12:56] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, im back at the command prompt of fdisk for my 500gig
[12:56] <michal_> join#ubuntu-pl
[12:56] <allsystemsarego> W8TAH, rename the file with extension mpg and try again
[12:56] <Roland123> dr_willis: kmail, kopete are included in those 2?
[12:57] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yes, that's where you press w and then press enter to write the new table.
[12:57] <Roland123> dr_willis: which version of kde will it install?
[12:57] <wiretapped> is there a ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:57] <hischild> wiretapped, yes.
[12:57] <Sajuukkhar> ok cool, then what? its back to /dev/
[12:57] <catmando> how the heck do you increase the scrollback buffer on a tty?
[12:57] <wiretapped> wt is it
[12:57] <Sajuukkhar> is it done and dusted?
[12:57] <dr_willis> Roland123,  if you are on 8.10 it will be kde4
[12:57] <W8TAH> allsystemsarego: ok
[12:57] <Roland123> 8.04 installs 3.5?
[12:58] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah. Now you have to create a file system on it. Why don't you get something like gparted btw? So much easier.
[12:58] <SlimeyPete> 8.04 uses 3.5, yes
[12:58] <Roland123> ok, thnx
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> hischild, cos im running ubuntu server
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> and worst of all I haven't got a monitor for it
[13:00] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, ah explains. Ok so now lets create a filesystem on it then! which one do you want?
[13:00] <Sajuukkhar> one for my Samba filesharing server :D
[13:01] <Vinceman> what ok?
[13:01] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah, but ext3, xfs, ntfs, fat32 ... which one :)
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> thx for the awesome help hischild, you are doing me wonders
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> i dont know.... wot would you choose?
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> even better, wots the difference?
[13:01] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, its fine, i like to help. You're actually listening, which makes all the difference
[13:01] <Sajuukkhar> its just storing data but in different ways yeah?
[13:02] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, oh yeah, you mind putting my name in front of all replies? makes it so much easier to read then. NTFS is windows only, has some slower speeds but can be read by all systems. Ext3 is journaling, as with XFS. Main difference is that ext3 is a better all round filesystem where XFS is faster with thousands of small files.
[13:03] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, samba will make it transparent anyway, so you don't have to take into account what your target system is.
[13:03] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ok wot about Fat32?
[13:03] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, 4gb file size limit, but is generally stable. Wouldn't recommend it though, there's much better ones.
[13:04] <erno> is it possible to run a 64bit in a 32bit ubuntu kvm?
[13:04] <jim_p> anyone using network config for his/her wireless needs? http://network-config.sourceforge.net/site/home.php
[13:04] <Sajuukkhar> hischild yeah 500 / 4 partitions... blerrgh!  anyway if i formatted it into ext3, would it be readable  on a windows machine?
[13:04] <ZeroA4> erno, no...
[13:04] <hischild> erno, depends on which virtualisation software you're using.
[13:04] <jim_p> erno, nope
[13:04] <Sajuukkhar> if i took the hdd out of the server and took it to me to say a LAN or something
[13:04] <MiraiWarren0_0> I was using e17 window manager lately but had reason to use gnome recently.  When I tried to launch blender in a terminal, it didn't launch.  Later after starting any random programs, gnome-settings-daemon shuts down.
[13:05] <MiraiWarren0_0> I will file a bug report later today.
[13:05] <jim_p> erno, 32 bit hosts can only host 32 bit guests
[13:05] <MiraiWarren0_0> Any ideas what happened?
[13:05] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, yeah, as samba makes it transparent which file system you're using on the server.
[13:05] <Sajuukkhar> hischild if so, I will do an ext3
[13:05] <hischild> jim_p, you can run 64bit ones on vmware while using a 32bit host.
[13:05] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, did it pop some error in the terminal?
[13:05] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, do you know which device is your 500gb disc?
[13:06] <jim_p> hischild, are you sure? this is a bit... out of the pc world
[13:06] <hischild> jim_p, yeah i'm sure. Was surprised, it's slow as hell, but it'll work.
[13:06] <erno> ohhhhhh k thanks dude, i'm pissed though
[13:06] <Decepticon> how do i watch a log file like with less, but see it updated as more data is added to this log file
[13:06] <Sajuukkhar> hischild im pretty sure
[13:06] <jim_p> hischild, oh ok. at least we know its slow
[13:06] <wjz> hao
[13:06] <erno> *dudes
[13:06] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: no, it did not even show a terminal.
[13:06] <wjz> hi
[13:06] <rww> Decepticon: tail -F filename
[13:06] <Sajuukkhar> hischild how do I check the sizes of both hard drives?
[13:06] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, you said you launched blender from the terminal right?
[13:07] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, pretty sure isn't good enough, do this --> sudo fdisk -l <--
[13:07] <Decepticon> thanks rww
[13:07] <Sajuukkhar> I got sdb which is 160 gig
[13:07] <Sajuukkhar> hischild but my sda doesn't give me a size, just a start and an end numbe
[13:07] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: no I used the gnome .desktop launcher for blender in a window but used the run in terminal option.
[13:08] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, and is sdb marked with a * under boot?
[13:08] <erno> is it possible to update a 32bit os to a 64bit os?
[13:08] <Sajuukkhar> hischild sdb2 is yes
[13:08] <rww> erno: no
[13:08] <erno> damn
[13:08] <jim_p> MiraiWarren0_0, can you launch blender from the terminal and look for errors
[13:08] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, and is the blocks somewhere around 500000000 for sda?
[13:08] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I fubar'd the partition on my sdb so it still has its windows partitions
[13:08] <erno> sucks man, so i really have to reinstall my whole system
[13:08] <jim_p> rww, really?? when i install 2GB more of ram i have to reformat!?!?!?
[13:09] <rww> jim_p: yes?!?!???!
[13:09] <MiraiWarren0_0> jim_p: I have tried that and nothing showed up that was abnormal.
[13:09] <hischild> jim_p, you can run a 64bit kernel on a 32bit OS, but you'd still run a 32bit OS.
[13:09] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh wow
[13:09] <jim_p> rww, damn!
[13:09] <rww> jim_p: assuming by "install 2GB more of ram" you mean "want 64-bit ubuntu"
[13:09] <Vinceman> it is weird though, it says there are six usb ports on my system, yet I only see three
[13:10] <dr_willis> Vinceman,  some can be internal/headers with no real ports.
[13:10] <Sajuukkhar> hischild LOL, yes, dont worry im being stupid its 12 am :D
[13:10] <jim_p> rww, i thought apt was intelligent enough to do so. yea 2 more GB and i jump to the 64bit worls
[13:10] <jim_p> *world
[13:10] <Sajuukkhar> hischild yes sda1 has 500 gig (roughly)
[13:10] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, that's fine. So, we need to create a filesystem on /dev/sda1, which will be ext3. correct?
[13:10] <rww> jim_p: apt would have to replace every binary in the OS, including itself, to upgrade you to 64-bit Ubuntu. It's intelligent enough to not do so.
[13:11] <jim_p> rww, true. neve thought of that occasion
[13:11] <Sajuukkhar> hischild can it be read on a windows machine if I put it in my windows comp?
[13:11] <Sajuukkhar> hischild thats if it is in ext3?
[13:11] <fivetwentysix> jim_p: Just back up your home folder and format :_P
[13:11] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, if you plug that drive onto a windows pc directly, no. Over a network via samba? yes.
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ah
[13:12] <rww> jim_p: alternatives: 1) Physical Address Extension, 2) 64-bit kernel on 32-bit machine. Personally, I just went with 64-bit to start with, so I don't know how well those alternatives work, or how to do them.
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild meh ext3 it is
[13:12] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, easy command --> mke2fs -j /dev/sda1
[13:12] <Decepticon> sometimes when i restart and login, conky will not be started, and sometimes it will.... ive added it to startup apps via the sessions dialog.... is there a better way than this haphazard method
[13:12] <jim_p> fivetwentysix, its not the home folder only. there are a zilion of other settings i have to do again
[13:12] <rww> jim_p: on 32-bit Ubuntu **
[13:12] <Sajuukkhar> hischild thats a fdisk command?
[13:12] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no, that's a terminal command. You should be outside of fdisk by now.
[13:13] <jim_p> rww, well the kernel change is some relief
[13:13] <Sajuukkhar> hischild WHEEEE! its writing inode tables
[13:13] <Sajuukkhar> hischild if you were here with me, I would pass you a beer :D
[13:13] <Decepticon> sometimes when i restart and login, conky will not be started, and sometimes it will.... ive added it to startup apps via the sessions dialog.... is there a better way than this haphazard method
[13:14] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, haha yeah. Then you create a mount point for it and mount it.
[13:14] <hischild> Decepticon, it'll always start, but X needs to be loaded. create a script that does sleep 5 and then start conky
[13:14] <Sajuukkhar> hischild sweet can you pass the commands and such? while its doing wot its doing?
[13:14] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  when it 'dosent' start - check the running processes.. it may be its running but is BELOW the gnome desktop.. Conky and gnome can have issues...
[13:15] <jim_p> oh well... i needed a format for 64 bit xp, now i need a complete renovation :P
[13:15] <Decepticon> dr_willis when i say it doesnt start, i mean ithat it probably started and died because like hischild said, X hadnt loaded up completely...
[13:15] <Sajuukkhar> hischild then I have to work out how to repath the samba to the new hdd, which will be a little fun
[13:15] <Decepticon> conky will not run without X, dr_willis
[13:15] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, sudo mkdir /media/data && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/data <--- that'll mount the disc to /media/data
[13:16] <rww> Decepticon: iirc, stuff in Sessions loads when GNOME initializes, after X has already started
[13:16] <ngirard> Hi all, as you may know, Texlive 2008 packaging for ubuntu is far from beeing ready, and I need it. Therefore I'd like to remove all my old texlive packets, then install TeXlive 2008 by hand. Problem is, I'd like to keep kile installed, and kile depends from texlive. Is there a way of removine the texlive paquets while keeping kile ?
[13:16] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, to automount it, add this line to /etc/fstab --> /dev/sda1    /media/data    ext3   defaults    0    0
[13:16] <Sajuukkhar> hischild ok its done lets do this :D
[13:16] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, i'm still working on figuring samba out. Got the workgroup and shares working here, but there's so much more to do with it.
[13:16] <ngirard> join #kubuntu
[13:17] <lat> Can messing up one of the networking files cause the home directory to be unreadable by the file browser?
[13:17] <Sajuukkhar> hischild how do i make that mount automatic? I heard I have to make that auto matic?
[13:17] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, add the line i gave you above to /etc/fstab. It'll automount each time you reboot.
[13:17] <psypher246> simplexio: how do i install burnbx?
[13:18] <Sajuukkhar> hischild so mount /dev/sda1 /etc/fstab?
[13:18] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no. sudo nano /etc/fstab, then go down to the bottom, and add that line.
[13:19] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh i didn't see that line, i have mIRC hard to see, all the time
[13:19] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  ive never heard of things getting ran from the Startup/AUtostart/Sessions   BEFOR X loads. Unless Theres somthing I am missing.
[13:19] <Decepticon> dr_willis well the sleep thing takes care of it. so thank you hischild
[13:20] <Decepticon> i slept 15
[13:20] <Decepticon> dr_willis im guessing some component of gnome's desktop needs to be completely initialized before conky can start
[13:20] <Sajuukkhar> hischild done done :) now to repath samba
[13:21] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no prob. samba config is in /etc/samba/smb.conf. YOu'll figure it out, i'm sure.
[13:21] <Sajuukkhar> aye
[13:21] <hischild> !pm | jbeitler
[13:21] <dr_willis> Decepticon,   from what i gather with the conky docs/faq. the way gnome does the icons/root window on the desktop. can cover up conky or other apps that try to draw to the root  window layer.
[13:21] <Sajuukkhar> hischild you are too kind :) thx for helping me out, been waiting for a long time for it
[13:21] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, no prob.
[13:22] <Decepticon> dr_willis thats unusual because whenver this problem occurs i do ps aux | grep conky and see nothing
[13:22] <Decepticon> either conky tried to start and died or... it just didnt laucnh
[13:22] <lat> My file browser can access any directory on the file system except my personal home directory (which caused the file browser to crash).  What can cause this?
[13:22] <dr_willis> Decepticon,  I think conky has some logging features.. but ive not used it in ages..
[13:22] <Decepticon> dr_willis its no biggie, the sleep function has taken care of it i believe
[13:23] <Sajuukkhar> hischild oh im at map network drive in windows, wot folder am I going to share again?
[13:24] <Sajuukkhar> hischild nm :D
[13:24] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, don't know how you edited your samba config. restart samba (sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart) and wait a minute or 2. then see if you can find the new share in network places.
[13:24] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I fixed it, I was, again, being stupid and tired
[13:25] <obhk____> hi guys, I know how to use top to kill processes, but if my computer is really stuck, is there anything I can do to kill the process that is causing it?
[13:25] <Sajuukkhar> hischild i bow before your helpfulness, hopefully something good will happen to you today, you just got me a backup file system for everyone in my family :D
[13:25] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: have you identified the process?
[13:26] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, that's very kind of you. Something good is going to happen, i'm going to a concert of my favorite band tonight!
[13:26] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: well, yes, it's a simulation I run
[13:26] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: if you know the process id number, "kill -9 id_number" should kill it e.g. "kill -9 1017"
[13:26] <Sajuukkhar> hischild I hope it goes well for you, and on that note (bad pun) I bid you good day/morning/night/evening
[13:27] <serdar> hello
[13:27] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: the problem is that if my computer is stuck, I can't enter that command anymore on the shell :s
[13:27] <hischild> Sajuukkhar, haha you've seen me leaving i  guess. Yeah, i'm also seeing a girl tonight .. hope all goes well ... :-) thanks!
[13:27] <serdar> the pulseaudio init script don't do anything, right?
[13:28] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: in windows, Ctrl-Alt-Del kind of halts all current processes and let you choose which one to terminate
[13:28] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: Oh. Blimey, really badly stuck then. You can't get to a standard tty (i.e. press ctrl-alt-f1) and use that?
[13:28] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: that's another problem :D I work on a
[13:28] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: erm, not to my knowledge it doesn't... ctrl-alt-del just displays the task manager, it doesn't halt anything, and I think the same goes for ctrl-alt-esc in ubuntu
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: can you ssh in?
[13:29] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: how do you mean?
[13:29] <serdar> was I correct or wrong?
[13:29] <serdar> it don't do a thing here
[13:29] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: if you have installed the openssh server you could possibly use an ssh client to log in remotely from another computer, and see if you can kill the process from there
[13:31] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: "Oh. Blimey": isn't that from black adder? :D
[13:32] <kennyyu> where can i find arm-linux-toolchains.tgz for ubuntu?
[13:32] <Vinceman> obhk____ life is not funny
[13:32] <Decepticon> how do i give priority to a process over another process
[13:32] <Vinceman> Oh Blimey is from the movie "titanic"
[13:32] <jrib> Decepticon: man nice
[13:32] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: heh, it's an expression I use a lot as an englishman ;)
[13:33] <serdar> it's a tragedy it's end with the dead
[13:33] <obhk____> SlimeyPete: thx for the help
[13:33] <serdar> with death
[13:33] <Decepticon> what is a sane range for niceness for a nonessential process
[13:33] <SlimeyPete> obhk____: no problem
[13:33] <Decepticon> 0 to 19 ?
[13:34] <serdar> maybe I ask again, does the pulseaudio skript work with someone?
[13:34] <Decepticon> no negative niceness numbers are good for nonessential processes, like a web browser?
[13:35] <nooga> hi
[13:35] <Decepticon> how do i use nice when a process is already started?
[13:35] <jrib> Decepticon: man renice
[13:36] <nooga> Has somebody tried using Open AT compliant GSM modem connected via parallel port under ubuntu? I need help in making my Wavecom work.
[13:36] <The-Compiler> ehem, linux-generic and figlet are unfree?
[13:37] <lodder> can gnome, kde and xfce be installed one machine?
[13:37] <Decepticon> how do i see current niceness of a running process without modification
[13:38] <shavin> does one need to check MD5 sums of an ubuntu image downloaded through torrent?
[13:38] <onetinsoldier> lodder: yes, definitely
[13:38] <jrib> Decepticon: man ps (I know that one is vague, but I don't remember the options).  You can use top or htop too.  System -> Adiministration -> system monitor might work as well
[13:38] <shavin> I could not locate where MD5 sums are on ubuntu site. Could you u send me the link ?
[13:38] <Decepticon> jrib top shows TOO many processes, and its hard to find my process im looking for the niceness of
[13:39] <ngirard> Hi again. How to list the dependancies of a given paquet p ?
[13:39] <The-Compiler> shavin: take the torrent link, and replace the filename (e.g. Ubuntu-foo.torrent) with MD5SUMS
[13:40] <jrib> Decepticon: you can search in htop
[13:40] <lodder> onetinsoldier: is it aptitude install kde and aptitude install xfce
[13:40] <zChris> ´My computer rebooted itself for some reason, im trying to figure out what issued the reboot in the logs but i dont know which log to look in. Any advice?
[13:40] <onetinsoldier> ngirard: apt-cache depends <package>
[13:40] <ngirard> onetinsoldier: Hi, thanks for your answer !
[13:41] <onetinsoldier> lodder: i'd have to look
[13:41] <lodder> k
[13:41] <imc_> Hi, after updating to Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.4 yesterday FF opens to full screen by default and I can't seem to change the behavior - anyone else have this problem? I'm on 8.10
[13:41] <jrib> lodder: you probably want kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[13:41] <onetinsoldier> ngirard: you're welcome :)
[13:42] <h2os> any suggestions on a lighter weight desktop then xfce?
[13:42] <Decepticon> how do i change the disgusting colors in htop, F2 doesnt appear to work, running htop under screen...
[13:42] <cinnamon> don't you find it a bit frightening, that ubuntu bugs on launchpad time out automatically when not fixed?
[13:43] <shavin> The-Compiler: do you mean like this:     http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent with http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/md5sums?
[13:43] <edgy> Hi, any one managed to transfer from mobile to pc using bluetooth? I can't!
[13:43] <The-Compiler> shavin: yup, _should_ work
[13:43] <onetinsoldier> lodder: looks like it would be, aptitude install kde and aptitude install xfce4
[13:43] <shavin> The-Compiler: nope it doesnt :-(
[13:43] <The-Compiler> shavin: I said MD5SUMS but not md5sums :P
[13:44] <shavin> caps?
[13:44] <shavin> in a url?
[13:44] <shavin> fuck, it worked :-)
[13:44] <shavin> thanks
[13:44] <serdar> is the pulseaudio init script broken?
[13:45] <jrib> serdar: no?
[13:45] <ikonia> shavin: control your language please
[13:45] <shavin> ikonia: sorry
[13:45] <ikonia> shavin: no problem
[13:46] <shavin> i got excited a bit
[13:46] <shavin> he he
[13:47] <serdar> jrib: hmm that's strange. that script don't do a thing
[13:47] <The-Compiler> shavin: yes, on linux-servers caps does usually matter
[13:47] <jrib> serdar: I said "no?" as in "something probably doesn't work for you, so why not tell us exactly what is not working for you?"
[13:48] <shavin> The-Compiler: thats new knowledge for me. Thank you.
[13:49] <serdar> jrib: init scripts like alsa-utils do start and stop something here and tells me that he do that, but pulseaudio is quite and do nothing.
[13:49] <recon69> hi all, I want to use a higher version(2.1) of cg-nvidia-toolkit than the 2.0.001 in the hardy repos, on nvidia's site the closed install package is a redhat rpm . can i install that?
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, maybe
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, try alien to convert it
[13:50] <h2os> recon69, to a deb
[13:51] <remoteCTR1> with what command do i install gnome, is that gnome-desktop-environment? cos that tells me that i am missing prerequisites...?
[13:51] <jrib> remoteCTR1: ubuntu-desktop
[13:51] <remoteCTR1> jrib: aaaaah! k, thanks!
[13:51] <delaneys> ive got three packages in my update manager that wont update
[13:52] <Decepticon> how do i prevent htop from scrolling all the way to the top
[13:52] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: and they are?
[13:52] <gansc> delaneys: ?
[13:52] <serdar> does pulseaudio work for someone else than me?
[13:53] <serdar> I mean the script
[13:53] <delaneys> kde4libs-bin, kdelibs5 and kdelibs5-dev
[13:53] <serdar> err does it not work I mean
[13:53] <Decepticon> i really like htop... is there some cli app for measuring/monitoring the network? like up/down transfer speed
[13:53] <jrib> serdar: pastebin what you are talking about
[13:54] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, have you tried installing(updating) them on the command line?
[13:54] <delaneys> onetinsoldier, yeah
[13:54] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: what response/message do you get back?
[13:55] <serdar> http://pastebin.com/m4e4f283b I mean this
[13:55] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: each package has dependencies that arent met
[13:55] <jrib> serdar: see if it happens after a fresh reboot
[13:55] <Eaglebird> I had a quick question: Has anyone had any trouble with 8.10 Server's GRUB not honoring the default set by "grub-set-default" or "savedefault --default=#"
[13:55] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, roger. one at a time...  what happens with kde4libs-bin?
[13:55] <Decepticon> how do i run something every 6 hours in crontab... is it 0 */6 * * *
[13:55] <serdar> jrib: you mean in messages?
[13:56] <jrib> serdar: I mean reboot, try again what you pastebinned, see if it matches
[13:56] <jrib> Decepticon: no
[13:56] <jrib> Decepticon: hint: the first field is minutes
[13:56] <serdar> jrib: sound came back after every reboot
[13:57] <jrib> serdar: ok, but you were asking about the init script right?
[13:57] <Decepticon> why wouldnt i want to run at every 6 hours to the dot?
[13:57] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:ok now its jus saying they've been kept back
[13:57] <Decepticon> thats what that does, with minutes at 0
[13:57] <Decepticon> doesnt it?
[13:57] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, that can be normal
[13:57] <jrib> Decepticon: no, it runs it every 6 minutes
[13:58] <Decepticon> the 6 is in the second field
[13:58] <Decepticon> 0 is the first field
[13:58] <orgthingy> hi
[13:58] <gansc> hi
[13:58] <Eaglebird> hello chatter
[13:58] <Decepticon> 0 */6 * * *
[13:58] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:but because of this i will have to compile amarok 2 from source as it doesnt have the dependencies as these are not installed
[13:58] <serdar> jrib: yes, because I think it's strange, that I don't get the needed result as described in the script.
[13:58] <jrib> Decepticon: ah, you're right.  The 0 was at the end of the screen here
[13:58] <orgthingy> /home/user-name/Music is owned by me, and so are ~/Music/Frostwire and ~/Music/Music
[13:58] <orgthingy> the problem is
[13:58] <jrib> serdar: so did you do what I asked?
[13:58] <orgthingy> everything in ~/Music/Frostwire and ~/Music/Music is owned by root
[13:58] <jrib> !enter | orgthingy
[13:59] <orgthingy> even though the files themselves re owned by me
[13:59] <orgthingy> jrib : i really know, i really do
[13:59] <Leon_> Is there any busy channel on freenode with off-topic chat and random advice for life?
[13:59] <jrib> orgthingy: huh?
[13:59] <Decepticon> jrib ah ok, but 0 */6 * * * is correct then for every 6 hours?
[13:59] <Leon_> I need one
[13:59] <jrib> Decepticon: yes
[13:59] <Decepticon> thanks
[13:59] <orgthingy> jrib : that I shouldn't use enter ;)
[13:59] <jrib> orgthingy: then don't :)
[13:59] <serdar> jrib: you mean rebooting system? o.k. than I do it
[13:59] <recon69> ﻿serdar: pulse audio does have some problems in ubuntu, every so often it stops working with a message that the audio device is busy. also in some app you get regular pauses in audio.
[14:00] <jrib> serdar: rebooting system and seeing if the script provides output for you then
[14:00] <Eaglebird> orgthingy: chown them to yourself?
[14:00] <orgthingy> Eaglebird : chown -u orgthingy ?
[14:00] <serdar> hmm k
[14:00] <serdar> cu later
[14:00] <orgthingy> I never changed permissions :P only thisi time i was playing and now it's a mess XD
[14:00] <Eaglebird> Dunno. I don't actually use linux all that much XD
[14:01] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you might not be able to compile the source either, due to dependencies. amarok2 is very new, so the libraries it depends on are not yet in the repositories. if you give it a week or two they probably will be though
[14:01] <aatish> hi room. its been a long time. i got a small problem. i noticed that when i play any types of video on ubuntu with any player with nvidia proprietary driver installed i see some random flickering on the video. i get no such flickering wen i dont install the driver. can someone help find a solution for that. plz. thanks
[14:02] <orgthingy> I think I figured out, i love man pages, Eaglebird, thank you for giving me a clue
[14:02] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: problem is on my other install on my laptop, amarok2 downloaded with not a problem
[14:02] <Eaglebird> Ok well if everyone missed it earlier, my own problem is that I'm using GRUB to dualboot windows and ubuntu server edition; I can boot into either system fine. Ubuntu is the default. I want to be able to use grub-set-default or something to set windows as the default, and I have in my menu.lst, the entry for win to execute a savedefault to revert back to ubuntu, so booting into win is a one time thing.
[14:02] <aatish> i want to enable compiz also thats y. need to install driver
[14:02] <jim_p> aatish, what video output do you select on each player?
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: oh? i see, hmmm
[14:03] <aatish> x11
[14:03] <Eaglebird> however, when I grub-set-default to the windows entry, it still defaults to ubuntu
[14:03] <delaneys> onetinsoldier:actually, i have an idea
[14:03] <ikonia> Eaglebird: just menually update your /boot/grub/menu.lst to have Default point to the windows partition rather than ubuntu
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: ok, well let me explain wht i think might be going on then
[14:03] <onetinsoldier> what*
[14:04] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: go ahead please
[14:04] <Eaglebird> ikonia: No, because then I have to have a keyboard attached if I want to get back into ubuntu :P
[14:04] <aatish> jim_p: i use x11 as video output.
[14:04] <Eaglebird> And it's more work than running a command
[14:04] <ikonia> Eaglebird: how are you running a command without a keyboard
[14:04] <Eaglebird> SSH
[14:04] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you probably have something on this system that depends on the older version of the libs, that's why they are being held back
[14:04] <ikonia> Eaglebird: errrr then yhou can edit the file over ssh
[14:04] <jim_p> Eaglebird, then u must change the "default 0" parameter in menu.lst
[14:04] <Eaglebird> yeah but guys
[14:04] <Eaglebird> windows doesn't like linux partitions
[14:04] <jim_p> aatish, try some other one like xv or gl/gl2
[14:05] <Eaglebird> so how do I change it back?
[14:05] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: you might get a clue by doing   aptitude whynot <newer lib version>
[14:05] <ikonia> Eaglebird: oh I see you want to change the grub default whie in windows
[14:05] <Eaglebird> no no
[14:05] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: jus a general question, im still runnin hardy on this, my other is interprid, is that a possible problem no?
[14:05] <Eaglebird> I want windows to default once.
[14:05] <Eaglebird> So basically, boot into ubuntu, set windows default, restart, get windows
[14:05] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: or opening up the aptitude interface and looking at them in there
[14:05] <ikonia> Eaglebird: grub is not dynamic like that
[14:06] <Eaglebird> restart again, get ubuntu. restart again, get ubuntu. restart, ubuntu. set default windows, restart, windows.
[14:06] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: yes.. that would probably have a lot to do with it
[14:06] <aatish> jim_p: i have tried but  no results
[14:06] <Eaglebird> Basically when I'm in ubuntu, I set windows as default. The windows entry has "savedefault 0" to revert back to ubuntu
[14:07] <Eaglebird> so when it loads windows, it also reverts the default back to ubuntu
[14:07] <ikonia> Eaglebird I don't know/think that will work
[14:07] <CaneToad> how do I find out what to apt-get that contains libjpeg-devel ?
[14:07] <Eaglebird> It would be simple, really, if the /boot/grub/default file worked
[14:07] <jim_p> aatish, do you have 3d acceleration now? proper installation of drivers would enable that
[14:07] <ikonia> Eaglebird: it doesn't so that can't be helped
[14:07] <Eaglebird> so why doesn't it work
[14:08] <jim_p> CaneToad, libjpeg62-dev
[14:08] <ikonia> Eaglebird speak to the grub developers, grub has not been developed for ages
[14:08] <catmando> hey all
[14:08] <CaneToad> jim_p thanks that's good...but how did you determine that?
[14:08] <catmando> i've got a _very_ weird problem
[14:08] <aatish> jim_p; i havent install the driver Bkoz of the flickering. but it does support 3d acc
[14:08] <Leon_> Does anybody know a good off-topic random-advice channel on freenode?
[14:08] <catmando> i've just resized an logical volume using lvresize
[14:08] <jim_p> CaneToad, apt-cache search libjpeg :P
[14:08] <ikonia> Leon_ not ehre
[14:08] <ikonia> not here4
[14:09] <delaneys> onetinsoldiers: in aptitude it is sayin that they are from an untrusted source bu as far as i can see its from kubuntu
[14:09] <catmando> but it's still showing up as having no space
[14:09] <CaneToad> jim_p thanks I'm new to apt
[14:09] <catmando> both in nautilus and gparted
[14:09] <ikonia> ughh, "Leon, not here," look on the freenode channel list
[14:09] <catmando> any ideas?
[14:09] <jim_p> aatish, ubuntu 8.10? and what gpu?
[14:09] <delaneys> onetinsoldier: in aptitude it is sayin that they are from an untrusted source bu as far as i can see its from kubuntu
[14:09] <Leon_> ikonia: That's why I'm asking where. You know any busy channels anywhere?
[14:09] <Eaglebird> ikonia: Would it be possible to point the "default number" line of menu.lst to /boot/grub/default, somehow?
[14:09] <ikonia> Leon_ #ubuntu is not an irc directory - look on the freenode channel list
[14:09] <ikonia> Eaglebird no
[14:09] <ikonia> Eaglebird: grub is not dynamic like you want
[14:10] <onetinsoldier> delaneys: i'm not sure exactly what that's about...
[14:10] <aatish> jim_p: am using 8.10 n geforce 7300. i got the same prob with 8.04
[14:10] <Leon_> ikonia: There are about 5000 channels there, not a lot of them seem to be active and off-topic, so I thought I would just ask here because people here might n´know the freenode network better than I do
[14:10] <skylarS> does anyonw know why screem closes all of the time?
[14:11] <skylarS> there must be a bug or something
[14:11] <ikonia> Leon_ read the cahnnel list and find one and try it
[14:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Leon_ Please read and understand what Ikonia has said
[14:11] <randa> ryan8403_work: hi are you ryan Lorchtie
[14:12] <jim_p> aatish, did you upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 or clean install?
[14:12] <sidd> hi, am facing a lot of problems with the 8.10 networking. first, how do i get the network icon back on the panel?
[14:12] <Leon_> Ok nevermind, I was just thinking that somebody here might know a channel. I have already looked through the list, but there are far too many to scan every single one and check if they are active and off-topic
[14:13] <tangkevin2006> hi ,can anyone do me a favor?:)
[14:13] <aatish> jim_p: i did a clean install
[14:14] <jim_p> tangkevin2006, everyone do the same favor?!
[14:14] <ranok> tangkevin2006: ask away
[14:14] <macsim_> hi, in nvidia-setting why did it display CRT screen if I use an philipps 17'' 170S screen ?
[14:14] <ranok> Leon_: check out netsplit
[14:14] <jim_p> aatish, then i dont know what to say.
[14:15] <veltsu> Please somebody find it in your heart to help me with my audio problems: Acer 5100 with 8.10 and no sound after trying the alsa script. I'm on kernel ..27-8 and curiously when trying with ..27-9, sound works but wireless network card doesn't
[14:15] <jim_p> aatish, i would say "make a proper xorg.conf file" but its not an answer since you are on 8.10
[14:15] <ranok> Leon_: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[14:15] <lasivian> I rebooted and it says the administration directory is still locked when I run apt-get, ideas?
[14:15] <sidd> how do i edit network settings in ubuntu 8.10? which files?
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> veltsu the script from alsa should not have changed anything, or is this some other script
[14:16] <Leon_> ranok: Thanks, I'll see if I can find a channel to suit my needs :)
[14:16] <jim_p> veltsu, what wireless card are you on? your wireless may not work because of network manager
[14:16] <ranok> Leon_: no problem
[14:16] <ranok> Leon_: try #defocus
[14:16] <sidd> and how do i permanently disable network manager and do the network configuration myself?
[14:17] <veltsu> Jack_Sparrow I ran the script earlier on 27-9 because I was using that by a mistake. Seems there it worked properly
[14:17] <veltsu> jim_p my wireless is Atheros 2413, the infamous one
[14:17] <mikevankuik> anyone knows anything about log file rotation?
[14:17] <mikevankuik> I think I might have a issue with that but not sure
[14:17] <Saga_> I'm going to install Ubuntu on laptop and because of its natural in mobility, I'm going to use alternative cd to use encrypted LVM -- However, I wanted to know what's the really benefits in Ubuntu 8.10 and Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS -- Which would benefit me the most?
[14:17] <jim_p> sidd, sudo apt-get autoremove network-manager && sudo apt-get install gnome-network-admin
[14:17] <aatish> jim_p: thanks anyway. btw i also got the same prob wen i installed the beta driver.
[14:17] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[14:18] <tangkevin2006> hi,sidd,u can find in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> veltsu Just for my own info...  The script.. alsa-info.sh             caused an issue?
[14:18] <sidd> tangkevin2006: done that n number of times. everytime i reboot, it loses the config. the values are still there in the file tho.
[14:19] <veltsu> Jack_Sparrow no. The sounds were not working before either.
[14:19] <sidd> tangkevin2006: i don't think that works. i have two computers with the same problem.
[14:19] <federico> !list
[14:19] <zzxxzz> Does anyone know if there is a config file for the Trash applet?
[14:20] <jrib> zzxxzz: not that I know of.  What do you want to configure?
[14:20] <onetinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: what's the factoid for when apt is locked(lockfile problem)? do you know? lasivian needs help
[14:20] <ranok> my trash applet has stopped becoming empty, even if I empty it
[14:20] <Saga_> !lts > Saga_
[14:21] <jrib> ranok: anything in ~/.local/share/Trash/?
[14:21] <Saga_> !LTS
[14:21] <freeqstyler> Hello
[14:21] <bazhang> !aptfix
[14:21] <Saga_> !lLTS benefits
[14:21] <onetinsoldier> bazhang: ahh, thanks
[14:21] <jrib> Saga_: ask a question
[14:21] <zzxxzz> jrib: My new install of 8.10 does not change the icon when there is trash and it saays there is none when I point to it, but it does allow me to delete the trash.
[14:21] <ranok> jrib: two empty dirs: info and files
[14:21] <Saga_> jrib: I did :)  --  I'm going to install Ubuntu on laptop and because of its natural in mobility, I'm going to use alternative cd to use encrypted LVM -- However, I wanted to know what's the really benefits in Ubuntu 8.10 and Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS -- Which would benefit me the most?
[14:22] <federico> list
[14:22] <federico> lst
[14:22] <ikonia> federico: what ?
[14:22] <jrib> Saga_: 8.04 is supported for 3 years, 8.10 for 18 months.  However, 8.10 is newer
[14:22] <Saga_> jrib: I'm aware of that -- but I need more info on it -- Why should I use LTS?
[14:23] <jrib> zzxxzz: different icon theme maybe?
[14:23] <jrib> Saga_: if you don't want to upgrade as often as you would with non-LTS
[14:23] <jrib> Saga_: that's it
[14:23] <mikevankuik> anyone having any experiance with log rotation ?
[14:23] <Feeernando> hi
[14:23] <jrib> mikevankuik: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Saga_ usually for servers (LTS) since updrades and down time are more of an issue than a home PC.  If in doubt you can dual or tripple boot .04 and .10
[14:24] <tangkevin2006> sidd,well ,I have no idea,but I edit it on one of my desktop,and it can work,i using the static ip
[14:24] <Decepticon> what cli app is there to see progress of a cp operation
[14:24] <Feeernando> hello
[14:24] <jrib> Decepticon: rsync?
[14:24] <onetinsoldier> lasivian: did you see the above about aptfix?
[14:24] <acedip> how can i monitor a program in gdb
[14:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > Feeernando
[14:24] <Saga_> Jack_Sparrow: But Ubuntu 8.10 -- You somtimes will experience bugs?
[14:24] <jrib> ranok: what version of ubuntu?
[14:25] <ranok> jrib: 8.10
[14:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Saga_ You can experience bugs in any release, more so with marginally supported hardware
[14:25] <mikevankuik> jrib: I'm not sure what the problem is but it seems the log rotating system doesn't rotate every file and the logs aren't being written either
[14:25] <Sparckix> Hi.. May you help me please? I have deleted an .ods file and I'm wondering if I could recuperate it
[14:25] <jrib> ranok: does the trash icon in nautilus also stay full if you do file -> empty trash?
[14:25] <acedip> how can i monitor transmission in gdb
[14:25] <acedip> how can i monitor transmission in gdb
[14:25] <jrib> mikevankuik: I meant to ask the channel
[14:25] <Sparckix> recover it*
[14:25] <jrib> !debug > acedip
[14:26] <ranok> jrib: yes
[14:26] <jrib> !recover | Sparckix
[14:26] <recon69> ok, got a gziped copy of cg-2.1, the archive root is /. and contains /usr , /use/bin , /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/local /usr/share, I take i should uninstall the cg-2.0 and unzip the archive into the appropriate /usr dir?
[14:26] <Saga_> Thanks Jack_Sparrow and jrib.
[14:26] <freeqstyler> I have a problem with booting. I have two disk - first 320GB with Ubuntu 8.10 installed (SATA converted to IDE- Primary) and second 40GB with WinXP (Secondary IDE). When i try to boot from first drive I see "GRUB loading stage 1.5 error 25" instead od GRUB menu. I tried to boot from Super Grub Disk, but then I saw "Grub loading stage2 read error" after choosing Ubuntu partition. Sorry for my english :P
[14:26] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:26] <jrib> ranok: and nothing shows up when you click on it in nautilus?   Even if you press ctrl-h?
[14:26] <Decepticon> jrib how do i see hte progress bar in rsync
[14:26] <ranok> yes
[14:26] <ranok> nothing
[14:26] <jrib> Decepticon: I don't remember offhand
[14:26] <Decepticon> i tried rsync -v
[14:26] <CarlFK> how do I downgrade xorg to a previous version?
[14:27] <Jack_Sparrow> CarlFK You dont
[14:27] <mikevankuik> jrib: ? sorry should I tell the bot my question or so? this message is going to be read in the channel by all right?
[14:27] <jrib> Decepticon: man rsync <enter> /progress <enter>
[14:27] <Saga_> mikevankuik: Use > command.... Eg
[14:27] <Saga_> !lts > mikevankuik
[14:27] <jrib> mikevankuik: yes, I meant ask the question without highlighting me so people know you aren't being helped yet
[14:27] <jrib> CarlFK: why?
[14:28] <zzxxzz> jrib: I've tried changing to each of the different themes and they all display  only an empty icon.
[14:28] <ranok> jrib: nothing shows up
[14:28] <CarlFK> jrib: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18160#c11  bug in kernel hosed my multi-head
[14:28] <Decepticon> jrib its --progress ... or you can use -P which is really --progress and --partial (which says keep partially transfered files)
[14:28] <jrib> zzxxzz: icon themes specifically?
[14:28] <mikevankuik> jrib: ok
[14:29] <Saga_> I'm thinking about encryption lvm -- however, will I be able to create a new partition from encryption lvm free space and mount it as a hard drive?
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[14:29] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:29] <gansc> hi silv3r_m00n
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> how can I edit the looks and feel of gnome
[14:29] <freeqstyler> uhm, no one can help me?
[14:29] <silv3r_m00n> say to make a theme of my own
[14:29] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: Making a theme probably isn't easy -- Use theme packages from Gnome-look.org
[14:30] <gansc> freeqstyler whats you question ?
[14:30] <recon69> ﻿ ok, got a gziped copy of cg-2.1, the archive root is /. and contains /usr , /use/bin , /usr/include /usr/lib /usr/local /usr/share, I take i should uninstall the cg-2.0 and unzip the archive into the appropriate /usr dir?
[14:30] <freeqstyler> gansc: I have a problem with booting. I have two disk - first 320GB with Ubuntu 8.10 installed (SATA converted to IDE- Primary) and second 40GB with WinXP (Secondary IDE). When i try to boot from first drive I see "GRUB loading stage 1.5 error 25" instead od GRUB menu. I tried to boot from Super Grub Disk, but then I saw "Grub loading stage2 read error" after choosing Ubuntu partition. Sorry for my english :P
[14:30] <Decepticon> 930kB/s transfer from USB device to 7200rpm hdd, means its using USB 1?
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: that's fine... but suppose I want to tweak some parts like change height of menu
[14:30] <Baber> hi
[14:30] <silv3r_m00n> will that too be difficult
[14:30] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: You can -- There's customize option.  It's in appearances.  I do that -- I have this look --  I have this different set of icons -- etc.
[14:31] <veltsu> I'd like to hear some stories about how was your transition to Linux like. Was it a struggle to get even the smallest thing to work? did everything require you to do a week of research and testing before you got it to work?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: the thing that I want to modify isn't there in appearances
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> that why
[14:31] <recon69> hmm, hope i dont endup reinstalling OS after this :)
[14:31] <jrib> CarlFK: there isn't an easy way for you to downgrade xorg.  In any case, that bug report says there are bugs in 3 different software.  There is a patch for some part of the issue.  Did you try applying it?  Otherwise the easiest thing for you to do is probably to use hardy or something
[14:31] <eMaX> hi all
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> freeqstyler Was windoes installed on that drive in it
[14:31] <Saga_> silv3r_m00n: Changing heights of the menu, or do you mean panel?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> yup
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> s current position as slave?
[14:31] <silv3r_m00n> ppanel
[14:31] <eMaX> anyone here knows "db3"? I get cannot open Packages index using db3
[14:31] <Baber> i want connect my laptop with an accesspoint wireless modem in ubuntu it can see accesspoint modem but can not connect who can help me?
[14:31] <gansc> freeqstyler: That beats me! sorry. English is ok ;)
[14:31] <jim_p> rww, are you there? virtualbox just anounced 64 bit guest support on 32bit hosts! vbox 2.1.0 is out!
[14:32] <Saga_> Right-click on the panel -- Properties.  Change it to a new size.  silv3r_m00n
[14:32] <acedip> i want to monitor transmission in gdb, transmission is been hanging lately
[14:32] <CarlFK> jrib: the patch just reports the error instead of crashing.
[14:32] <eMaX> jim_p what?
[14:32] <silv3r_m00n> Saga_: noh... the items in the menu I want to change their height
[14:32] <eMaX> jim_p how would that work
[14:32] <veltsu> Baber what's your wireless card?
[14:32] <n8tuser> Baber-> try  sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:32] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[14:33] <CarlFK> jrib: thanks for looking.
[14:33] <jim_p> eMaX, dunno too. rmm confirmed it works but its very slow
[14:33] <eMaX> strange
[14:33] <jrib> CarlFK: look at comment 17
[14:33] <Decepticon> 930kB/s transfer from USB device to 7200rpm hdd, means its using USB 1?
[14:33] <CarlFK> jrib: hmm, maby I should try it...
[14:33] <jrib> CarlFK: it seems to partially fix the problem.  Whether it's enough for you I have no idea
[14:34] <acedip> the command "gdb transmission" doesnt work, but i guess that is the way to start a program in gdb,right ??
[14:34] <zzxxzz> jrib: Using System  - Preference - Appearance: It doesn't mention icon themes specifically. Is there another place to make them changes? Ubuntu 8.10 fresh install.
[14:34] <n8tuser> acedip-> should be,  assuming transmission is an elf executable it can understand
[14:35] <jrib> zzxxzz: "customize..."
[14:35] <nooga> How to list serial ports?
[14:35] <jrib> ranok: don't know then
[14:35] <Feeer> hola
[14:35] <ranok> jrib: ok, thanks anyways
[14:36] <acedip> n8tuser: transmission is an self executable
[14:36] <liz_> hello,i need help
[14:36] <jrib> ranok: you can try 'gksudo nautilus' and then file -> empty trash, but I don't think it will work
[14:36] <n8tuser> acedip-> okay, an elf, so what happens when you issue the command?
[14:37] <Baber> n8tuser: i typed sudo dhclient wlan0 and now it show some output what do i have to do now?
[14:37] <shavin> whats the better way of installing ubuntu on a usb from a live CD? from system>administration>create usb startup disk OR from http://ppa.launchpad.net/probono/ubuntu/pool/main/l/liveusb/ ?and whats the difference here??
[14:37] <n8tuser> Baber-> you have to post in pastebin the output, i can not see it from here..
[14:37] <acedip> n8tuser: the gdb starts but not with transmission in it..transmission is not there
[14:37] <paul__> I installed ubuntu with vmware as virtual machine in windows 2k3 , and I cant figure out it's networking, I cant ssh to it
[14:38] <onetinsoldier> shavin: i used a utility called  unetbootin
[14:38] <n8tuser> acedip-> what do you mean not there?
[14:38] <zzxxzz> jrib: I had to go back and look, and yes we did cycle through each choice on the icon tab under customize and the main theme also and only saw a different "empty" icon when there was files deleted in the trash.
[14:38] <shavin> is there a reason not to use system>adminustration> create usb startup disk ?
[14:38] <acedip> n8tuser: first of all, transmission should be running graphically too, right?
[14:39] <jrib> zzxxzz: what ubuntu version?
[14:39] <Baber> n8tuser: it say no dhcpoffers recieved
[14:39] <Riverhed> Anyone here have any experience with setting up wacom/tablet PCs with Ubuntu?
[14:39] <n8tuser2> Baber-> are you using an encrypted AP ?
[14:39] <Pulpie> what is ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 X -version
[14:39] <acedip> n8tuser2: i simply mean that transmission is not running
[14:40] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:40] <zzxxzz> jrib: 8.10 freshly installed on a new notebook using the alternate CD which was also used on a friends computer which does not have the problem.
[14:40] <Baber> n8tuser:8.04.1
[14:40] <jrib> ranok, zzxxzz: pastebin: grep -i trash ~/.nautilus/metafiles/*  (though http://ywwg.com/wordpress/?p=75 claims it is old)
[14:40] <n8tuser2> acedip-> you have to step by step or put break while in gdb, and run.. did you do that?
[14:41] <n8tuser2> Baber-> wpa-psk? wep?
[14:41] <ranok> jrib: no output
[14:41] <acedip> n8tuser2: u mean 1.$gdb then 2.run transmission
[14:41] <Pulpie> anyone running 8.04 type X -version and pastebin me the output please
[14:41] <Pulpie> as well as 8.10
[14:41] <n8tuser2> acedip-> nope, in gdb prompt you type run, or step
[14:41] <Baber> n8tuser2: i think use wep
[14:42] <jrib> Pulpie: packages.ubuntu.com check xserver-xorg
[14:42] <n8tuser2> Baber-> get rid of it for now, try using no encryption
[14:42] <n8tuser2> then later you can enable it once you know it works
[14:42] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:43] <ronny> hi
[14:43] <Baber> n8tuser2: is your means that i have to decrypt it first?
[14:43] <luisbg> luis_, ping
[14:43] <n8tuser2> Baber nope, disable wep in the AP
[14:43] <ronny> anyone aware of a mp3 stream player thats able to record the streams on disk
[14:44] <luisbg> luisbg_, ping
[14:44] <mikealeonetti> is there a way to get the Ubuntu version through the shell?
[14:44] <n8tuser2> mikealeonetti-> uname -r
[14:44] <zenit> mikealeonetti: lsb_releas -a
[14:44] <Michael88> hi ppl
[14:44] <Baber> n8tuser2: excuse me your means from ap is modem application?
[14:44] <zenit> lsb_release -a
[14:44] <jim_p> mikealeonetti, uname -r or lsb_release -a
[14:45] <Michael88> i need some help with a USB HDD....how can i "force mount it" i'm on Ubuntu live
[14:45] <Michael88> pls help
[14:45] <sidd> how do i enable and disable services in ubuntu?
[14:45] <jim_p> Michael88, is it on ntfs?
[14:45] <Pulpie> jrib: /wc
[14:45] <n8tuser2> Baber  you have to read up on wireless, you have to understand the basic lingo used.. please google for wifi tutorial
[14:45] <jim_p> sidd, with sysvconf          google it
[14:45] <Michael88> yes
[14:45] <n8tuser2> !wireless | Baber
[14:45] <allsystemsarego> sidd, bum - Boot-up manager
[14:46] <acedip> n8tuser2: this is what is happening.  (gdb) run transmission Starting program:  transmission No executable file specified. Use the "file" or "exec-file" command.
[14:46] <Michael88> jim_p: yes it is
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> sidd: System --> Administration --> Services
[14:46] <zzxxzz> jrib: grep -i trash ~/.nautilus/metafiles/*   returns nothing.
[14:46] <jim_p> Michael88, i guess it was not properly "safely removed" on some windows machine, so you have to use forced mount
[14:46] <onetinsoldier> sidd: see also   man update-rc.d
[14:46] <jrib> zzxxzz: k, don't know then
[14:46] <jim_p> Michael88, do you know the letter of it, like sda, sdb etc?
[14:47] <n8tuser2> acedip   you have to    gdb  transmission   then type run or step at gdb prompt
[14:47] <Michael88> jim_p: no
[14:47] <jrib> ranok, zzxxzz: you can both try to see if it happens with a fresh new user to see if it's a configuration issue
[14:47] <zzxxzz> jrib: Thanks, this one really  has me stumped.
[14:47] <zzxxzz> jrib: I'll give that  a try. And thanks.
[14:47] <ranok> jrib: thanks for the help
[14:47] <shavin> how do i find out the drive letter of my usb drive?
[14:48] <jrib> shavin: ubuntu doesn't use drive letters
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> shavin: linux doesn't use drive letter, i uses device nodes and mount point
[14:48] <acedip> n8tuser2: kindly check the output http://pastebin.com/m67d3c1e1
[14:48] <jim_p> Michael88, can i pm you because i am in a hurry?
[14:48] <onetinsoldier> shavin: try typing...   mount
[14:48] <tom198> czech?????????
[14:49] <Michael88> jim_p: oky
[14:49] <zzxxzz> shavin: When I format my drives and give them unique label names, the mount displaying the label.
[14:49] <Pici> !cz | tom198
[14:49] <shavin> lemme try the mount command
[14:50] <n8tuser2> acedip so it means the transmission program has been stripped off of its debuggers, so you need to recompile it and enable debuggin
[14:50] <Eaglebird> ikonia:It's dynamic enough. I've got it working for me, and would've replied sooner, but wanted to verify it first, and it takes about 10 minutes for the machine in question to boot because it has 8 gigs of ECC memory to check ;P
[14:50] <jrib> acedip: or if you read the link I gave you, you would know where the packages with debug symbols are
[14:50] <acedip> n8tuser2: and how shall i do that :(
[14:51] <shavin> I cant understand the output of the mount command. is there a way to see only usb drives?
[14:51] <n8tuser2> acedip-> you have to learn c programming and gdb, so you can learn how to compile and debug
[14:51] <n8tuser2> shavin-> try   ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid
[14:52] <acedip> n8tuser2: i guess i know c++
[14:52] <heril> c++ isn't c
[14:52] <n8tuser2> acedip-> then you ought to know how to compile with debuggers enabled
[14:53] <n8tuser2> acedip-> man gcc and look for options to enable debugging
[14:53] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[14:54] <shavin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/87098/ could you please see this and help me find out my pendrive letter?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin sudo fdisk -l  last letter is L  from term
[14:55] <praet> SOURdiesel: does the cd work if you eject and re-insert it
[14:55] <SOURdiesel> praet: yes
[14:56] <n8tuser2> shavin unplug your pen drive and replug it in, then dmesg| tail  to compare
[14:56] <praet> SOURdiesel: what is the error then?
[14:56] <zzxxzz> shavin: sdb1 looks like it's your pen drive. Does it not mount automatically when you plug it in and produce an icon on the desktop?
[14:56] <SOURdiesel> praet: something about not being able to mount
[14:56] <patrick-1> Hey everyone. im trying to setup my xorg.conf for dual head usage, but it just wont work out right. i have 2 screens one DVI and one VGA and i cannot get them with a high resolution
[14:56] <shavin> okay i found it in partitiion editor its sdb1    Now what the drive letter in this?
[14:57] <praet> the brun log seems fine, report the mounting error
[14:57] <praet> or try the disc in another machine
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin Drive Letters are a windows thing
[14:57] <shavin> Jack_Sparrow: But the script which i am using to install ubuntu on a pendrive from pendrivelinux.com is asking for a drive letter in the terminal
[14:58] <shavin> so what should i tell it sdb1 or a part of it?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> shavin If you mean to ask if sdb1 is hd1,0
[14:58] <nikhil> hi there
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[14:59] <nikhil> i am on 8.04 currently.  SHould i shift to 8.10. if yes, whether a clean install or update preferred?
[14:59] <Decepticon> is there something like htop for the network, i want to see graphs or history or avg and instantaneous transfer speeds up/down for each interface in a cli environment reliably under screen
[15:00] <nikhil> i am on 8.04 currently.  SHould i shift to 8.10. if yes, whether a clean install or update preferred?
[15:00] <nolfie> nikhil you might have problems on update
[15:00] <n8tuser2> shavin-> which install instruction are you following?
[15:01] <shavin> n8tuser2:http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/10/15/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[15:01] <nikhil> sorry if anybody has responded to my question.  time lag appears to be high
[15:01] <Pici> nikhil: Read the release notes for 8.10 and see if any are applicible to your situation
[15:01] <shavin> i think 'b' from 'sdb1 ' would be the drive letter for me.
[15:01] <Pici> !notes > nikhil
[15:02] <mikealeonetti> is apt-get only used in Ubuntu?
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> OPA
[15:02] <heril> mikealeonetti: no
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> depois de  muito tempo
[15:02] <reiARTUR27> voltando para o IRC
[15:02] <heril> comes from debian
[15:02] <nolfie> mikealeonetti it is used on all debian based distros
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[15:02] <mikealeonetti> aha
[15:02] <n8tuser2> shavin why not http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/11/01/ubuntu-810-install-using-the-built-in-usb-installer/
[15:02] <patrick-1> Any xorg.conf Pro's around?
[15:02] <patrick-1> please PM
[15:02] <onetinsoldier> mikealeonetti: it's used in 'Debian' and Debian-based distros, of which there are a number
[15:02] <hateball> !ask | patrick-1
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> patrick-1 Please keep it in the channel, so others can learn as you get help
[15:03] <n8tuser2> patrick-1-> do not insult the rest, what if they are not pro?
[15:03] <shavin> thats what i wanted to use in the first place. I asked here a while ago. ok good. Do u think i should use that?
[15:03] <n8tuser2> shavin-> you can always try
[15:03] <shavin> :-)
[15:03] <shavin> yes
[15:04] <jpastore> is there a way to convert .toast images to iso with ubuntu?
[15:04] <jpastore> or to burn .toast files?
[15:04] <erUSUL> !iso
[15:04] <jpastore> thanks I'll check that out
[15:05] <nolfie> jpastore just rename
[15:05] <DaveKong> where is skel_dir? I want to be able to modify the default directories made
[15:05] <onetinsoldier> DaveKong: it's in /etc
[15:05] <DaveKong> thanks
[15:05] <jpastore> nolfie, really? I tried that and burned it down but it didn't work out so well for me...let me try to mount the iso and see what happens
[15:06] <onetinsoldier> yep
[15:06] <nolfie> jpastore oh, ok.
[15:07] <jpastore> nolfie, is there something that needs to be done to burn an iso as bootable? I have an iso that I want to install into a vbox
[15:08] <Riverhed> I'm having a little trouble with getting my stylus to work with my tx2500 and linuxwacom. I configured xorg.conf and made a quick fix, so I'm able to use the right-click side button as left-click by remapping the button and I set my mouse preferences so if I hold the button down it does a right-click, so it's usable enough as a stylus. But other users with 8.10 on the tx2500 have reported being able to click by pressing on the screen, 
[15:08] <nolfie> jpastore nopes, if the iso was burnt properly, that will do. when burning bootable images, there is a problem that the burning software padds with a few extra bytes that ruins the disc
[15:09] <nolfie> *pads
[15:09] <Riverhed> My hunch is that because I installed the linuxwacom package using the package manager, it might be a little older version than others are using, but I'm pretty new to Linux and don't want to mess something up. Can anyone walk me through patching linuxwacom to the newest version?
[15:09] <cdecarlo> I've installed the aero-vista theme for emerald and my window decorations don't change until run $emerald --replace, any ideas why this is happening?
[15:09] <jpastore> nolfie, ok. I'll see what I can work out thanks!
[15:09] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> not all iso are meant for booting, is the iso you have meant for booting?
[15:09] <jpastore> n8tuser2, so it states =)
[15:09] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> incomplete sentence...states what?
[15:10] <Riverhed> Anyone know anything about linuxwacom?
[15:10] <nolfie> n8tuser2 I think he knows that the iso is bootable
[15:10] <n8tuser2> nolfie-> not all iso are bootable
[15:10] <abhi> s
[15:10] <jpastore> n8tuser2, I was led to believe that the iso was bootable.
[15:10] <nolfie> n8tuser2 i know that
[15:11] <nolfie> jpastore, what do you mean? someone told you that?
[15:11] <n8tuser2> jpastore-> nope, not all the iso are bootable
[15:11] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?
[15:11] <n8tuser2> abhi yes
[15:11] <Riverhed> Can anyone help me patch linuxwacom to the newest version?
[15:11] <jpastore> n8tuser2, no I meant that this particular iso is an OS install disk. which leads me to believe it's bootable
[15:12] <Xan3> i have a problem usin wine with prince of persia 2008 (err:rundll32:WinMain Unable to find the entry point L in L Shell32.dll) anyone can help me?
[15:12] <nolfie> jpastore exactly
[15:12] <abhi> ya so if i give any name and tell my friends to use that name,its done?
[15:12] <Riverhed> Xan3: Are you using Steam to play it?
[15:12] <zChris> Xan3: checked winehq?
[15:12] <iluminator101> ﻿Is there like ccleaner like program for linux?
[15:12] <nolfie> lol
[15:12] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: don't repeat the question quite so often....
[15:12] <nolfie> sorry
[15:12] <n8tuser2> jpastore okay, i was not clear to me the first time..but yeah if they say for install, then it should be
[15:13] <allsystemsarego> iluminator101, kleansweep
[15:13] <abhi> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:13] <Xan3> zChris http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14808
[15:13] <cdecarlo> I've installed the aero-vista theme for emerald and my window decorations don't change until run $emerald --replace, any ideas why this is happening?
[15:13] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: with that said, are you sure there's a newer version that  what you already have?
[15:13] <abhi> can be used to ccleaner
[15:13] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Well, at least someone's even recognized I said anything, I was beginning to think I was invisible. I'm not intending to be bothersome, but I'm also not getting any response, and if it scrolls off the screen, well...
[15:13] <allsystemsarego> iluminator101, but be careful with it, it requires expert knowledge
[15:13] <abhi> ya so if i give any name and tell my friends to use that name,its done?
[15:13] <kevin_405_1> Can anyone help WIFI with WPA
[15:14] <am4zin> iluminator101, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[15:14] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: That's one of the things I'd like to check, but I'm new to Linux, not entirely sure how.
[15:14] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?how to do it?
[15:14] <jpastore> n8tuser2, yea...I'm still have trouble seeing it through vbox but I can mount it ok. I umounted it to try and make it available through vbox and I burned the image down...no love /sigh
[15:14] <n8tuser2> kevin_405-> get it working in the clear first before using wpa
[15:14] <Riverhed> I installed using the package manager in 8.10 and I think there's a more recent beta that provides better support for my tablet.
[15:14] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd..  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:14] <kevin_405_1> n8tuser wifi works
[15:14] <Riverhed> Just not entirely sure how to check the version and patch it if so.
[15:15] <kevin_405_1> WPA worked a couple of times and then now it stopped working
[15:15] <abhi> can we create group chat in irssi by any name?how to do it?
[15:15] <jim_p> abhi, you join a channel with a random name that you choose (non existant channel) and tell your friends to join that one too
[15:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd /usr/share/doc/linuxwacom and read the README file. see if it list a homepage
[15:15] <jim_p> abhi, the rest is just administration
[15:16] <kevin_405_1> n8tuser are u there
[15:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: or the homepage might not be in the readme, itmight be in another doc in there, or it might also be in the manpage if linuxwacom has a manpage
[15:17] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: At the homepage, it's http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
[15:17] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd.  when i eject and check it, it's fine.  the error has something to do with not being able to mount the disc.  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:17] <kevin_405_1> can someone help me with wifi using wpa
[15:18] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Newest release is 0.8.2, but I'm not sure my current version, trying to find it now.
[15:18] <iluminator101> abhi:is ﻿sudo apt-get autoclean same as sudo apt-get clean
[15:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: dpkg -l linuxwacom
[15:18] <jim_p> iluminator101, almost
[15:19] <jim_p> iluminator101, one of the two also cleans partialy downloaded files from cache
[15:19] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i am having trouble finding a package called 'linuxwacom'
[15:19] <doktoreas> anyone uses tomcat with apache connector?
[15:19] <kevin_405_1> WIFI with WPA HELP PLEASE
[15:19] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, caps
[15:20] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 kevin_405_1
[15:20] <Riverhed> yeah, it's not showing up for me, let me try to find it
[15:20] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, remove network manager and install wicd
[15:21] <patrick-1> hey all, i cannot get my xorg to get a higher solution than 2048x768 on a dual head config
[15:21] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, tell me the full path of a filename that belongs to it, if you can. any filename will do, with the full path
[15:21] <kevin_405_1> jim_p / bazhang i got it work 2 days back.. now all of sudden it stops working... no change in the setup.
[15:22] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, thats why i said its network manager
[15:22] <kevin_405_1> can u provide instructions
[15:23] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, you should check the forums link I gave you
[15:23] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, sure
[15:23] <kevin_405_1> ok i will thx baz
[15:24] <Irishman2020> I lost a few kernel options in my boot loader because I set it to limit it to 1 kernel, but the kernel that is listed has a -rt at the end, its ubuntu 8.04
[15:24] <Riverhed> I think I found it... there's a wacom folder in my home directory... /home/riverhed/wacom/linuxwacom-0.8.0-3
[15:25] <Irishman2020> how do I add the kernels that where ther before?
[15:25] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ahh, well there's your version number apparently
[15:25] <jim_p> Irishman2020, did you uninstall these kernels?
[15:25] <Irishman2020> no, just went into the startup manager in ubuntu and set it to limit to 1 kernel
[15:26] <Riverhed> Yeah :P
[15:26] <Irishman2020> so I didnt have to go through a list of kernels... but apparently that removed the kernel that did not have the -rt on it
[15:26] <Irishman2020> what is the -rt for?
[15:26] <jim_p> Irishman2020, well then its simple.
[15:26] <n8tuser2> real time
[15:26] <lat>  Our server connects to the Internet via eth0, and connects to the LAN via eth1. Server and Desktops can ping each other, but desktops can't access Internet. What might be wrong?
[15:26] <Slart> !info linux-image-rt
[15:26] <Irishman2020> for some reason the -rt doesnt work...
[15:26] <jim_p> Irishman2020, -rt = real time. no time loss in log writing and stuff
[15:27] <Mez> !studio
[15:27] <Irishman2020> yep, and it fails to boot on my comp... I can see the loading screen, but it dies afterwords
[15:27] <Andy_> hi
[15:27] <jim_p> Irishman2020, what is your current uname -r ?
[15:27] <n8tuser2> Irishman2020-> look for kernels in /boot
[15:27] <Andy_> i wanted to try new themes so i installed compiz and emerald
[15:27] <Andy_> i read faqs and all
[15:27] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: The tutorials I've seen use version 0.8.1-6, but apparently there's 0.8.2 available. Since I'm new to Linux I'm not sure how to patch it or uninstall/install the new version.
[15:27] <Andy_> and finnaly
[15:27] <Andy_> concluded that i wont work at my PC
[15:28] <Andy_> so i ..well went back to the default theme to find that the top bar of every folder
[15:28] <Pici> !enter | Andy_
[15:28] <Slart> Irishman2020: where did you find this startup-manager? it's installed by default?
[15:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: what you can do is, uninstall your current version using a 'dpkg' command. download the source tarball of the newer version, unpack it and compile it,  then use 'checkinstall' to install it
[15:28] <Andy_> oh okay
[15:28] <Andy_> my top bar which has close minimize has disappeared
[15:28] <Irishman2020> slart> not sure, I might have added it, but it was part of the ubuntu standard repo's
[15:28] <Pici> !latest > Riverhed
[15:29] <jim_p> Irishman2020, for the amount of the kernels in grub: inside /boot/grub/menu.lst there is an option that says         howmany=1   or some other number . comment it out or change it to    howmany=all
[15:29] <kevin_405_1> a
[15:29] <Andy_> and when i run windows manager it shows these setting cannot work wiht your current manager (unknow)
[15:29] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: in ubuntu, this package might be called... wacom-tools
[15:29] <Slart> Irishman2020: ah.. found it... that "limit kernels" option probable just limits the number of kernels you can see when you boot.. they are still there.. they just don't show up in the grub menu
[15:29] <Irishman2020> ok, problem is, theres only 1 name in the /menu.lst.
[15:30] <jim_p> Irishman2020, so you only have one kernel?!?
[15:30] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: try the following command...  dpkg -l wacom-tools
[15:30] <Andy_> can i roll back xubuntu as it was when i installed it yesterday?
[15:30] <Slart> Irishman2020: yes.. that's what the kernel limit number is for, afaik
[15:30] <orgthingy> jim_p : how many kernels do you want then -.-
[15:30] <heril> jim_p: he's saying that there is only one kernel in the boot loader list
[15:30] <jim_p> Andy_, in general, no. what is todays problem?
[15:30] <kristian_> i want to make one hdd as one partition, format it as ext2/ext3 and mount it, and make it stay mounted after boot. *via terminal*. where do i begin?
[15:30] <jim_p> orgthingy, all maybe!
[15:30] <Andy_> and when i run windows manager it shows these setting cannot work wiht your current manager (unknow)
[15:30] <Slart> Irishman2020: you can change it and run "sudo update-grub" and the other kernels will be included again
[15:31] <jim_p> and the fallback option!
[15:31] <Irishman2020> thats what it shows now... menu.lst has the opton with the kernel items, but they have dissapeared in the menu.lst :)
[15:31] <Andy_> also the op bar of evry folder or programme is missing the one which had close minimize and all
[15:31] <Andy_> top bar*
[15:31] <jim_p> Irishman2020, then do whatever Slart said
[15:31] <heril> Irishman2020: you'll have to add them back in, either manually or with a utility
[15:31] <Irishman2020> its way too busy in this channel... I'll try changing that
[15:31] <Irishman2020> thanks
[15:32] <Andy_> so..any solutions or should i rephrase my problem?
[15:32] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: ii  wacom-tools    1:0.8.1.4-0ubu utilities for Wacom tablet devices
[15:32] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, that is probably it then
[15:33] <leequarella> ok, ubuntu is installed and running nicely... now how do I get my second monitor working?
[15:33] <jim_p> Andry, open a terminal, type            metacity --replace           and stop compi
[15:33] <jim_p> *compiz
[15:33] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Any chance you can give me some more specific commands for uninstalling the old version and installing the new one? I'm quite new to it and really don't know many commands.
[15:33] <Riverhed> It's a wonder I've gotten this far :P
[15:34] <Riverhed> Of course, I probably shouldn't have undertaken this project during finals week... lol
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hang on, brb
[15:35] <Andy_> yeaa thankx
[15:35] <Andy_> just one question..what is metacity?
[15:35] <LeeQ> Anyone know how to set up dual-monitors?  they both show the ubuntu load screen, but after it is loaded one (the one hooked into the DVI port) goes blank and i am in a single monitor mode
[15:36] <Andy_> nvm i gtg
[15:36] <jim_p> kevin_405_1, are you done with wicd and the like?
[15:36] <TTilus> gxine fails weirdly, opens dvd menu fine, and hangs on language selection, pastie of terminal output here http://pastie.org/341346
[15:36] <TTilus> "non-seekable inputs aren't supported yet" sounds pretty fatal to me
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i'm not 100% certain how much time i have before i have to leave
[15:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: but we can get started if you want
[15:37] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok, sure.
[15:37] <jim_p> TTilus, have you tried another player?
[15:38] <TTilus> google only suggests checking region code, done, no effect (and other discs seem to play fine)
[15:38] <Riverhed> I could probably find the original tutorial on installing it if I need to but it wasn't working so great for me before. If you have to go I'll check it out and see if I can make sense of it now.
[15:38] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, download it and let me know when you've got it downloaded
[15:38] <jim_p> TTilus, have you tried another player?
[15:38] <TTilus> jim_p: totem with gstreamer failed
[15:38] <TTilus> havent given mplayer or vlc a shot yet
[15:39] <jim_p> TTilus, mplayer does not have dvd menus and the like. give it a try
[15:39] <kke> can i somehow burn a dvd when running from live dvd?
[15:39] <TTilus> what i find strange is that gxine on older ubuntu on another box plays the problematic disc, but this hardy doesnt
[15:39] <joaopinto> kke, don't think so
[15:39] <Riverhed> Alright, got linuxwacom-0.8.1-6.tar.bz2 downloaded. It's not the most recent, but it's the stable one everyone else with the same hardware and whatnot is using that it works with.
[15:40] <TTilus> kke: yes you can, if you only have insane amount of memory and two dvd drives
[15:40] <TTilus> kke: aka not really...
[15:40] <kristian_> i want to make one hdd as one partition, format it as ext2/ext3 and mount it, and make it stay mounted after boot. *via terminal*. where do i begin? "sudo fdisk -l" = http://paste.ubuntu.com/87126/ atm.
[15:40] <kke> TTilus: why does it require memory?
[15:41] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: 0.8.1-6 really isn't much newer than the one you already have
[15:41] <ttye0> My /dev/sda5 is the latest 'stable' reiserfs format, the rest of the partitions are ext3 and swap. One day I rebooted and it didn't see my reiser partition. I dd'd my whole /dev/sda and have a backup. Due to the fact reiserfsck refuses to see it as reiser, does anyone have any suggestions for me getting a portion of my data back from /dev/sda5? I have looked at numerous resources, but have had no luck thus far
[15:41] <anhdh> I use firefox 3.04 and why my flash player doesn;t work? i can't watch video on youtube:(
[15:41] <joaopinto> kristian_, sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[15:41] <chiliblue> whats the latest ubuntu intrepid?
[15:41] <nolfie> yes
[15:41] <sinbox> kke do you want to copy a DVD or buren one from files?
[15:42] <Andy_> okay now i replaced metacity but everytime i log in i have to do it anything to make it permenent, also in settings manager, when i select window manager it says "these settings cannot work with your current window manager (Metacity)"
[15:42] <Pici> chiliblue: Intrepid is the latest Ubuntu version.
[15:42] <kke> sinbox: burn an iso image from memory stick to a dvd
[15:42] <mrfelton> hi
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: where does the stuff come from you'd like to burn?
[15:42] <chiliblue> Pici: thanks
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: it's gotta be somewhere
[15:42] <jim_p> Andy_, metacity is a window manager, like compiz but simpler
[15:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: on that front page it says --> Production: 0.8.2   ..so i would download that
[15:42] <sinbox> if you have 2 DVD or a CD and a DVD drive that should work kke
[15:42] <kke> TTilus: yep, it's on usb stick
[15:42] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright. I'll grab that.
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: ok, thats different
[15:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[15:42] <TTilus> kke: give it a try
[15:42] <Andy_> yeah but why am i not able to ..get into window manager?
[15:42] <mrfelton> I'm having some strange trouble with my network today. My download seems to be caped at 10KiB/s
[15:42] <TTilus> could work
[15:42] <MF_Debian> anyone made a persistent usb key ?
[15:42] <ech0s7> hi
[15:42] <ech0s7> i would reduce noice of harddisk
[15:43] <Andy_> and how to make the change to metacity permenent
[15:43] <jim_p> Andy_, canr you save your current session?
[15:43] <ech0s7> how it is possible ?
[15:43] <mrfelton> yet if I go onto my router, it tells me I should be getting 7meg
[15:43] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:43] <Andy_> oh..yeah..well okay and about the windows manager?
[15:43] <Pici> Riverhed: I think installing that version of the wacom module by hand is not what you really want to do. You will end up needed to recompile it every time that the kernel's ABI changes.  Are the fixes between the version that we have in the kernel and the newest version really worth going through all that trouble for?
[15:43] <mrfelton> How can I find out what is causing this download cap?
[15:43] <jim_p> Andy_, that will keep the wm in place
[15:43] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, dsl?
[15:43] <mrfelton> yes
[15:43] <jim_p> mrfelton, your isp?
[15:43] <kke> TTilus: only one drive.. hm hm hm..
[15:44] <Andy_> so i will be able to access it if i save this session?
[15:44] <mrfelton> but my router says it is getting full speed
[15:44] <kristian_> joaopinto : thanks! will try it out. :-)
[15:44] <rohdef> if I found a potential security-bug in gksudo, where should I report it?
[15:44] <jim_p> ech0s7, does that sound happen from continuous disk usage?
[15:44] <kke> maybe if i install ubuntu on a memory stick..
[15:44] <kevin_405_1> bazhang are u there
[15:44] <joaopinto> kristian_, then you will need to mkfs.ext3 to format the partition, once it's created,
[15:44] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:44] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, yes
[15:44] <ech0s7> jim_p: yess
[15:44] <mrfelton> is there something I can use to analyse the network somehow?
[15:44] <Andy_> nvm i will try it
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> i went through the ling
[15:45] <TTilus> kke: prepare to get your first shot ruined, because it could very well be that ubuntu wants to read live dvd during the burn
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> i went through the link
[15:45] <SOURdiesel> can someone read my brasero log and tell me why i get an error when i burn a data cd.  when i eject and check it, it's fine.  the error has something to do with not being able to mount the disc.  http://pastebin.com/d25af8e80
[15:45] <Pici> !enter
[15:45] <Pici> !who
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> last step some issues
[15:45] <Riverhed> Pici: For now I'm just experimenting with Linux/Ubuntu and want to see if I can get everything working. It's largely for the challenge, and I'd really like it to work right. It's worth a shot to me.
[15:45] <jim_p> ech0s7, laptop or desktop?
[15:45] <kevin_405_1> can i  PM u there is too much scroll here
[15:45] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, I've got 0.8.2.
[15:45] <ech0s7> jim_p: laptop
[15:45] <Pici> Riverhed: Okay, just wanted to make sure :)
[15:45] <ech0s7> the hd is i a toshiba of 320GB
[15:45] <jim_p> ech0s7, one thing i can imagine is some cron job doing updatedb constantly
[15:45] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, best to keep it in channel
[15:45] <TTilus> kke: installing into stick should work fine
[15:46] <eagles0513875> i need some help changing the su password everythim i issue passwd it wants to change the passwd of the account im on
[15:46] <jim_p> ech0s7, either you delete that job, or disable cron altogether
[15:46] <ech0s7> jim_p: it happen also with other distribution / winXP / Vista
[15:46] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, well the 7Mb is the rate negotiated between the exchange and your router, not indicative of real world speeds at all, do you have a data cap on your plan that drops you down in speed when you reach it or similar
[15:46] <kke> TTilus: i only have 8.04 live dvd, i recall 8.10 had some "install on usb stick" -feature, is it a big hassle with 8.04?
[15:46] <bazhang> !noroot > eagles0513875
[15:46] <Slart> !usb
[15:46] <kevin_405_1> This step in the instructions "sudo wpa_supplicant -D<****see footer below***> -i<interface> -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd " what do i use for -D  wext does not work
[15:46] <jim_p> ech0s7, vista and have that indexing service that is the exact same thing
[15:46] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, what, that drops me down to 12K ?!
[15:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.  in your home directory... mkdir src && cd src
[15:46] <eagles0513875> bazhang only reason i need it is to populate the apt-build.list in /etc/apt so i can run an apt-build world
[15:46] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, which wifi chipset
[15:46] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, no. This is unlimited broadband from bt
[15:47] <ech0s7> jim_p: so i can stop crond ?
[15:47] <bietz> hey everybody, do you know how to access a laptop webcam from a c++ program?
[15:47] <bazhang> eagles0513875, what distro are you using?
[15:47] <jim_p> ech0s7, yes. i have
[15:47] <relik77080> hi peeps - I've set mouse clicks to have a sound through the sound preferences dialog, but it doesnt seem to work - i've re logged in but to no avail - any ideas?
[15:47] <kevin_405_1> i am using ndis wrapper with windows driver it is a broadcom 4311 v0.1
[15:47] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok.
[15:47] <eagles0513875> ubuntu server converted to kubuntu cuz im having issues with kubuntu on my laptop for some reason
[15:47] <Pici> bietz: Try asking in ##c++
[15:47] <heril> bietz: using a webcam library
[15:47] <ech0s7> jim_p: there is any utils that show what files are using hd ?
[15:47] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, have you tried a speedtest site?
[15:47] <bietz> pici you're right..
[15:47] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, this is ubuntu 8.10?
[15:47] <kevin_405_1> yes
[15:48] <jim_p> well done eagles0513875. i use the same thing almost. server installation to gnome!
[15:48] <mrfelton> yes. it says I'm getting 12k!!
[15:48] <Andy_> okay now i saved my sessiong and thank you i can see the bar now but my second problem remains, i am unable to access my window manager and can anyone tell me what manager was i using by default when i installed xubuntu, the version is 8.0.4 LTS.
[15:48] <n4th4n> lu all
[15:48] <mrfelton> usually I get 7000 odd
[15:48] <jim_p> ech0s7, i dont know of one
[15:48] <jim_p> :(
[15:48] <kevin_405_1> i see in man that i can use -Dndis for windows ndis driver but my ndiswrapper does not have it
[15:48] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, well i would call BT if I were you
[15:48] <ech0s7> jim_p: i have stopped crond
[15:48] <ech0s7> but hd is runnig alwways
[15:49] <jim_p> ech0s7, can you reboot?
[15:49] <mrfelton> MF_Debian, on the phone now!
[15:49] <ech0s7> yes jim_p
[15:49] <ech0s7> now i try to reboot
[15:49] <Andy_> jim_p: jump any suggestions?
[15:49] <MF_Debian> mrfelton, heh
[15:49] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, did the restricted drivers not work with that?
[15:49] <RediXe> How do I install a TTF font? xubuntu 8.04
[15:50] <kevin_405_1> nope
[15:50] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... the tar command. we will use the -jxvf options. j is to pipe it through the 'bzip2' program(.bz2), x means 'extract', v means 'verbose'(we want to see output), and f means 'we are specifying a file'(otherwise it thinks you want to archive something)
[15:50] <jim_p> Andy_, go to System > preferences > sessions. somewhere in there is the save session button
[15:50] <Slart> RediXe: create a dir called .fonts in your home folder, copy it there
[15:50] <Slart> RediXe: this will only make the font usable by you, not other users on the same system
[15:51] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright.
[15:51] <RediXe> Slart: Thanks, I read to put in a .fonts directory but couldn't find it .. didn't know I needed to make it :)
[15:51] <Andy_> jim_p: first, i dont have pref options, second i have saved my session its just that i am unable to access window manager, and what is the default window manager for xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS
[15:51] <Slart> RediXe: =).. there is a system folder with the same purpose.. but I find this is the easiest way
[15:52] <jim_p> Andy_, the default network manager for Xubuntu is xfwm
[15:52] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: So tar -jxvf linuxwacom-0.8.2.tar.bz2?
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: tar -jxvf /path_to_file/filename -C .   ...the    -C .   means 'change to the directory i'm currently in'. otherwise it will unpack it in the directory where the file is sitting
[15:52] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[15:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: make sure you have the   -C .   on the end
[15:52] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, any clue as to why this stopped working? did you do an upgrade/change kernels version or other?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> nope no idea
[15:53] <Andy_> jim_p: can you give me the command to install it?
[15:53] <LordDicranius> I have a small network setup with Ubuntu Server acting as a router and Ubuntu Desktop on the workstation.  From the router I'm able to ping google.com by its name and IP address, but from the workstation I'm only able to ping it's IP address.  I'm having issues with the name resoltion on the desktop.  anybody have any ideas?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> no change on my end
[15:53] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you should now have a new folder in your 'src' dir
[15:53] <mossmon> i-offtopic
[15:53] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, is the card detected? and can it see the essid?
[15:53] <kevin_405_1> yes
[15:53] <heril> LordDicranius: is the server configured as a dhcp server?
[15:54] <jim_p> Andy_, are you on xubuntu and metacity worked?!?!
[15:54] <bizkwet> hi, how do i kill pulseaudio or know if it's running..
[15:54] <bizkwet> ubuntu noob here.. sorry :)
[15:54] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, and have you tried disabling the encryption to see if you can get it working that way? did you associate the AP as in that link I gave you?
[15:54] <simplexio> LordDicranius: yes. learn netwokring. also echo 1  > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward could help
[15:54] <Andy_> jim_p yeah
[15:55] <Slart> bizkwet: pkill pulseaudio to kill it.. pulseaudio -D to start it.. man pulseaudio for more options
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> yes uncryped works
[15:55] <heril> bizkwet: open up a terminal and execute
[15:55] <LordDicranius> heril: no, I have 192.168.1.x static addresses setup on the internal NIC on the router and the NIC on the desktop
[15:55] <heril> ps -e|grep pulseaudio
[15:55] <heril> that will tell you if its running
[15:55] <jim_p> Andy_, Xubuntu does not have metacity because it has xfce!
[15:55] <Andy_> jim_p: can you please give me the command to download ..xfwm?
[15:55] <LordDicranius> simplexio: I know networking...IP forwarding is already enabled on the router, as well as IP masquerading
[15:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: did you unpack it? do you now have a new directory in your 'src' dir?
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> what do u mean assosiate create the wpa_supp.conf file
[15:55] <kevin_405_1> yes i did that
[15:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, I've got linuxwacom-0.8.2 directory in src
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p: okay so what should i do now to make things normal?
[15:56] <LordDicranius> heril, simplexio: I also have bind9 installed on the router with forwarders configured, but that's not helping either
[15:56] <topsub> Can anyone give me some insight as to why you would want to split your VMWare into 2gb files for ubuntu?
[15:56] <ti-grrr> how can i tell if i have NFS server working?
[15:56] <jim_p> Andy_, a) are you sure you are on Xubuntu?
[15:56] <simplexio> LordDicranius: dns configured on client machine
[15:56] <CarlFK> if xorg needs sudo modprobe aty128fb - how do I make that happen?  (pretty sure there is a file to put module names in, or better a xorg.conf option)
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p 100%
[15:56] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, no I mean to associate the nic with the ap (the wifi hotspot)
[15:56] <kevin_405_1> which part of the instruction is irt
[15:56] <LordDicranius> simplexio: yes, configured with the router's internal IP
[15:56] <kevin_405_1> which part of the instruction is it
[15:56] <Andy_> jim_p: I am new but not a retard..yeah i am on Xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS
[15:56] <SuwerRat> need a good firewall - work with a bunch of non trusting windows people and want to keep them off my laptop while jacked into the system
[15:57] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... go into it.  then do   ./configure --help  ..look at the beginning of the output from that for   --prefix=
[15:57] <jim_p> Andy_, so you have thunar and the like! that means you also have xfwm
[15:57] <jim_p> Andy_, anyway                        sudo apt-get install xfwm4
[15:57] <simplexio> LordDicranius: well do you have bind9 running in router ?
[15:57] <jim_p> i have to go people
[15:57] <jim_p> later
[15:57] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, how many entries show when you type ifconfig
[15:58] <SuwerRat> right now running firestarter  and not sure if thats all the protection I need
[15:58] <LordDicranius> simplexio: yes, I restarted the service (successfully) after I configured the forwarders
[15:58] <Slart> SuwerRat: firestarter isn't a firewall
[15:58] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[15:58] <Andy_> jim_p unable to lockthe admin direct....are you the root?
[15:58] <jim_p> SuwerRat, relax, iptables is smart enough to do tha job
[15:58] <kevin_405_1> my terminal is hanging
[15:58] <Ghordan> heya
[15:58] <jim_p> Andy_, do you have synaptic open?
[15:58] <TTilus> jim_p: now tried mplayer with menus, it prints a couple of "Error cracking CSS key" to console and finally, when i click one of the languages to start the movie, it fails with "libdvdnav: ifoRead_VOBU_ADMAP vtsi failed - CRASHING"
[15:58] <kevin_405_1> jeez it feel like i am on windows
[15:58] <LordDicranius> simplexio: I created a thread here that might give more insight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1013908
[15:58] <Slart> SuwerRat: nothing beats knowledge when it comes to staying secure.. the firewall is called iptables.. firestarter is just a gui
[15:58] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, the command does not execute?
[15:58] <Andy_> jimp: no.
[15:59] <Slart> !firewall | SuwerRat
[15:59] <kevin_405_1> ifconfig does not comeback
[15:59] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: it shows as currently being set to  /usr/local  we will change that.. as wall as the prefix for 'sysconfdir'(just to make sure)
[15:59] <kevin_405_1> opened new terminal stilll no good
[15:59] <Andy_> jim_p: no
[15:59] <jim_p> TTilus, Andy_ i have to leace
[15:59] <Ghordan> have the follow problem: if i start the live cd i cant connect intro the inet over wlan
[15:59] <jim_p> be back in an hour
[15:59] <Ghordan> have someone a idea whats happen?
[15:59] <n8tuser2> kevin_405_1-> it is hanged, reboot
[15:59] <Andy_> uh okay
[15:59] <chief> hi, what would course windows to be able to effectively write to my samba shear on my server, and ubuntu to call permission denied on writing to the same place?
[15:59] <SuwerRat> thank you -
[15:59] <bazhang> kevin_405_1, how long has that been happening (ie no return from terminal commands)
[15:59] <TTilus> jim_p: ok, np
[15:59] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright.
[15:59] <jim_p> TTilus, you may need the dvd decoding library
[15:59] <jim_p> !dvd
[15:59] <jim_p> bye
[16:00] <n8tuser2> Ghordan-> which chip does your wifi uses?
[16:00] <simplexio> LordDicranius: easies way is just edit clients resolv.conf and add those nameserver there (same as router has )
[16:00] <SuwerRat> learn something every day and I will finally break the chains of windows :)
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, so to get it configured do...  ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
[16:00] <MF_Debian> Slart, thanks for the link about usb key installs, after reading them, i find that the batch file you get from pendrive.com, doenst actually do whats necessary to make a persistent installation
[16:00] <TTilus> jim_p: ive got it, and all the other discs play fine (disney productions too)
[16:00] <LordDicranius> simplexio: ah, hadn't thought of that.  I'll give that a try, thx
[16:00] <simplexio> LordDicranius: my best quess is that bind isnt configured right
[16:00] <LordDicranius> simplexio: mmk, I'll look more into that too, thx :)
[16:00] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, it's running now.
[16:00] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:01] <Slart> MF_Debian: nice.. did you get it working?
[16:01] <Ghordan> n8tuser2 it is a AR5007EG if i check on the live cd he see it correct
[16:01] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:01] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. good. it finished with no errors eh? rare... hehe
[16:01] <n8tuser2> Ghordan-> i will brb..hang on
[16:01] <simplexio> LordDicranius: i usually make samekind "router" using transparent bridge configuration
[16:02] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I'm assuming it would report errors at the end?
[16:02] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yes
[16:02] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Guess I'm golden then ;)
[16:02] <kristian_> joaopinto : i did "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb", then "new", then "primary", then "enter" (maximum size), then "write", then "yes" and i get: "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition". i also tried the same except using "logical" and i get the same thing. ubuntu is installed on sda1 so i don't want my machine to boot from sdb1. or does the bootable option having nothing t
[16:02] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, good. now type simply..   make
[16:03] <LordDicranius> simplexio: ok, I'll keep that in mind. bbiab
[16:03] <kevin_405> bazhang my system hung
[16:03] <android6011> will having multipple window managers installed, kde gnome and xfce have any effect on system resources other than just the space on hd
[16:03] <kevin_405> sorry had to reboot
[16:03] <Riverhed> k
[16:03] <bazhang> kevin_405, how long was that happening? ie terminal commands not responding
[16:03] <kevin_405> just started
[16:03] <MF_Debian> slart, no i'll have to do it again, and i'll do whats required manually so I can get persistence, but apart from that it works amazingly well, perfect for me cos I'm staying at my brothers, and using his laptop, so I just jam in the usb key and yay no more win
[16:03] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:03] <kevin_405> after the wpa_supplicant stuff
[16:04] <kevin_405> cant belive ubuntu is so flaky
[16:04] <bazhang> kevin_405, did you try the fwcutter method (ie no ndis)
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[16:04] <FloodBot3> Ca6aka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, very well.  now uninstall the version that you currently have...   dpkg --purge wacom-tools
[16:05] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Gotta use sudo I'm guessing, says I don't have permission?
[16:05] <joaopinto> kristian_, do you intend to boot from that partition ?
[16:05] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yes.. sudo
[16:05] <kevin_405> what is that bazhang
[16:05] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, done.
[16:05] <kristian_> joaopinto : no i intend to use it as storage only. im booting of a partition on /dev/sda, sda1. now i just want to be able to use /dev/sdb.
[16:05] <kevin_405> i have not tried fwcutter..
[16:06] <jabbadoo> Is there anyone that knows anything about how to get all users on a system to have the permission to run script.sh as ROOT?
[16:06] <kevin_405> can u send me links
[16:06] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, let's install 'checkinstall'   sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[16:06] <anirudh0> jabbadoo: set the UID bit to root
[16:06] <android6011> is there a way to make the tty screens look better (smaller font, maybe color like gentoo) ?
[16:06] <bazhang> kevin_405, have never had luck (ever) with ndiswrapper; check synaptic for broadcom
[16:06] <anirudh0> android6011: modify the PS1 variable
[16:06] <kevin_405> can u send some links please
[16:07] <android6011> anirudh0: how do i do that
[16:07] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:07] <anirudh0> android6011:  http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-2.html
[16:07] <gmgj> I have 2 sndcards, I want to disable one of them; How?
[16:07] <bazhang> kevin_405, you have synaptic package manager correct?
[16:07] <Ward1983> if i need software that is not in the repo's, can i just do ./configure and make but no make install?
[16:08] <kevin_405> yes
[16:08] <jabbadoo> anirudh, how? chmod u+s or what?
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: yes
[16:08] <bazhang> Ward1983, which software
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: If you want to use it "in place"
[16:08] <joaopinto> Ward1983, it depends on the software, if it's just a binary you dont need to install it
[16:08] <android6011> thanks
[16:08] <Ward1983> than all
[16:08] <Pici> Ward1983: If you just 'make' then it won't be copied into the filesystem, you will only be able to run it from that directory.
[16:08] <Ward1983> bazhang, gephex
[16:08] <anirudh0> Ward1983: make install is a __much__ better idea though
[16:08] <joaopinto> anirudh0, you can't use it in place it if points to data files on the system...
[16:08] <kristian_> joaopinto : i got to go! dinner time. oh well, i will try to make it more clear when i come back, if your still around and still have time.
[16:08] <joaopinto> kristian_, ok :)
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. let get the docs together for the package that checkinstall will make.   mkdir doc-pak && cd doc-pak && cp -v ../AUTHORS ../Changelog ../GPL ../LGPL ../REAMDE .
[16:09] <kevin_405> synaptic has b43-fwcutter
[16:09] <kevin_405> no fwcutter
[16:09] <anirudh0> joaopinto: points==links?
[16:09] <n8tuser> Ward1983-> the assumption there is you have downloaded a tarball and you cd to its directory and it has a Makefile
[16:09] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: do not miss the   space and dot on the end there... they are needed
[16:09] <jabbadoo> anirudh0, how? chmod u+s or what?
[16:09] <Ward1983> anirudh0, bazhang joaopinto Pici im asking because i want to compile something on a persistent liveCD, is there a better way for persistent liveCD's?
[16:10] <joaopinto> Ward1983, you can make install on a live cd...
[16:10] <anirudh0> Ward1983: yes...http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-customize-your-ubuntu-live-cd
[16:10] <bazhang> Ward1983, how about remastering it
[16:10] <n8tuser> Ward1983-> persistent livecd? that dont make sense
[16:10] <joaopinto> changes will be lost, but you can
[16:10] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I copied/pasted it from yours and it gave some errors
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> hello
[16:10] <Ward1983> joaopinto, i know... but did you consider some systems are ATI and some are nvidia?
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> i have 2 wifi cards:
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[16:10] <grzegorz129x> 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
[16:10] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: i had a typo...   cp -v ../README .
[16:10] <joaopinto> Ward1983, ah :P
[16:10] <kevin_405> baz are u there
[16:11] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Going to cp/paste the errors in a pm
[16:11] <bazhang> Ward1983, /msg ubottu remaster  ; also check out uck (ubuntu customization kit)
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:11] <grzegorz129x> how to set AP mode on first card ?
[16:11] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> okay where were we?
[16:11] <Ward1983> bazhang, well gephex is a graphical tool, for live video
[16:11] <joaopinto> Ward1983, what program are you referring too ?
[16:11] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Oh, I'll try it without the typo first :P
[16:11] <grzegorz129x> (i try to share internet from second card)
[16:11] <Ward1983> joaopinto, gephex (www.gephex.org)
[16:11] <deanharris> anyone know the program called processing? can you help me with the program as im trying to do something.
[16:11] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: allright
[16:11] <Ghordan> i dont bring it to work
[16:11] <Ward1983> bazhang, so i think if i compile on my nvidia system it wont work on ATI no?
[16:11] <bazhang> kevin_405, you need to baz <tab key> and that will bring my whole nick, otherwise I will miss some of your comments
[16:11] <Ghordan> to connect to the inet
[16:12] <n8tuser> !who | Ghordan
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, so i thought: maybe i can jsut do make, and compile again in another dit on a ATI system
[16:12] <bazhang> Ward1983, compile? which app?
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, gephex still... :s
[16:12] <Ward1983> dit == dir
[16:12] <deanharris> !tab
[16:12] <bazhang> Ward1983, any hints what gephex is?
[16:12] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: doo you know what tab completion on filenames is?
[16:12] <Ghordan> n8tuser kk
[16:12] <deanharris> !tab baz ?
[16:12] <Ward1983> bazhang, a live video tool
[16:13] <bazhang> deanharris, baz <tab>
[16:13] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> are you booted on the livecd now? and chatting from livecd ?
[16:13] <deanharris> ahh
[16:13] <deanharris> i see
[16:13] <kevin_405> bazhang,  sorry
[16:13] <Ghordan> no
[16:13] <bazhang> kevin_405, nice :)
[16:13] <Ghordan> im on win atm
[16:13] <kevin_405> bazhang, i am a irc novice
[16:13] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: bash tab completion.. you know that means?
[16:13] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Not really :P
[16:13] <Ward1983> bazhang, from its site "Gephex is a modular video jockey software. The base visuals can be chosen from sources like video files or cameras. Then they can be modified by filters and mixers. Each modifier has several parameters, that can be controlled by signal-generators, input devices like joysticks, sound cards, or midi-devices."
[16:13] <Ghordan> n8tuser im on win atm
[16:13] <bazhang> kevin_405, open up synaptic manager and search for broadcom
[16:14] <n8tuser> Ghordan-> wireless or ethernet connections?
[16:14] <gmgj> Has the admin thought about disabling people joining and leaving the list when there are over 100 people in the room?
[16:14] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: helps prevent so much typing and helps prevent typos
[16:14] <TTilus> ive got a problematic dvd, hardy won't play (older ubuntu plays fine on different box), trials here http://pastie.org/341346
[16:14] <Ghordan> n8tuser wireless
[16:14] <jrib> gmgj: that's up to your client
[16:14] <n8tuser> gmgj nope, not necessary
[16:14] <SuwerRat> thanks again everyone I have a lot of reading to do - Have a nice holiday
[16:14] <kevin_405> bazhang, i am trying to read on fwcutter will get back to u
[16:14] <bazhang> Ward1983, dont think the video card will come into play in that situation though
[16:14] <n8tuser> !wireless | Ghordan
[16:14] <deanharris> anyone got program called processing? if so, can you help me with this?
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: anyway... did it work? you get the files copied ok?
[16:15] <Ward1983> bazhang, well maybe, most is done trough the CPU in gephex, but im jsut not sure
[16:15] <anirudh0> TTilus: when mplayer hangs...does it consume cpu?
[16:15] <allsystemsarego> TTilus, do you have libdvdcss2 on your system?
[16:15] <TTilus> anirudh0: no
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: whilein the doc-pak dir type   ls
[16:15] <Ward1983> bazhang, im afraid i will mess up my persistent system
[16:15] <deanharris> baz !tab test test
[16:15] <deanharris> nvm
[16:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: see if all the files are there
[16:15] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I sent you a pm with the errors.
[16:15] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: i think i do
[16:15] <anirudh0> TTilus: hmm....and does hard disk show load?
[16:15] <TTilus> anirudh0: no disc load
[16:16] <TTilus> it just plain hangs
[16:16] <n8tuser> deanharris-> is it an ubuntu supported app?
[16:16] <deanharris> yeah
[16:16] <allsystemsarego> TTilus, try vlc
[16:16] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: already tried, see pastie
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: type pwd... show me the response
[16:16] <n8tuser> !who > deanharris
[16:16] <anirudh0> TTilus: is it region locked?
[16:17] <TTilus> allsystemsarego: checked, i do have libdvdcss2 installed
[16:17] <deanharris> !n8 test test
[16:17] <kdogg> why is everything greyed out when i try to use gparted?
[16:17] <TTilus> dunno
[16:17] <deanharris> hm
[16:17] <TTilus> anirudh0: dunno about regionlocking, but other region 2 discs play fine
[16:17] <TTilus> anirudh0: and gxine and vlc are able to show dvd menu
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, what is greyed out?
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hello?  type pwd... show me the response
[16:18] <kdogg> im trying to resize my partiiton to make room for another
[16:18] <anirudh0> TTilus: I'm clueless...sorry
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, maybe its still mounted or something
[16:18] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Sorry, got an important call.
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:18] <deanharris> n8 !tab test
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, if its still mounted just unmount en retry :)
[16:18] <kdogg> Ward1983 maybe i have to mount with the live cd?
[16:18] <n8tuser> deanharris-> you type n8t then press tab key
[16:18] <anirudh0> kdogg: ofcourse
[16:18] <TTilus> anirudh0: np, this looks pretty voodoo to me too and im not a linux newbie to begin with  ;)
[16:18] <Ward1983> kdogg, you cannot mount it and then resize it...
[16:19] <anirudh0> kdogg: you can't resize a mounted filesystem!
[16:19] <deanharris> n8tuser: got it
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: riverhed@riverhed-tablet:~/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2/doc-pak/doc-pak/doc-pak$
[16:19] <kdogg> lol
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I guess from trying the command a couple times, lol.
[16:19] <deanharris> n8tuser: thanks :)
[16:19] <Ward1983> kdogg, you can only alter partitions that are not mounted
[16:19] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Brb real quick, sorry.
[16:19] <kdogg> cool
[16:19] <Ward1983> kdogg, also resizing can go wrong so backup first
[16:19] <deanharris> anyone help me with the program called processing?
[16:19] <kdogg> i have to install windows on that new partition im making, how will I restore grub after?
[16:19] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: let me know when you are back
[16:20] <n8tuser> deanharris-> what does that do? be clear on the description
[16:20] <TTilus> deanharris: dont ask to as, just ask
[16:20] <TTilus> ;)
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, resizing can go wrong so backup first
[16:20] <anirudh0> kdogg: http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FRecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows&ei=viZJSdShIY-zkAXAz4VY&usg=AFQjCNHW_iMjuSRvjNQIsiNTcFcjic1m5Q&sig2=9BJDnH9PrCHnIqTS6aTmhQ
[16:20] <deanharris> TTilus:  what that mean? lol
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, what kind of windows?
[16:20] <Ward1983> kdogg, xp or vista or something else?
[16:20] <kdogg> Vista.
[16:21]  * kdogg hides.
[16:21] <kdogg> how often does resizing a partition go bad?
[16:21] <Ward1983> kdogg, you can also add grub to the vista bootloader lol, its pretty conveniant trough easyBCD, but its probably nice to have the other way around
[16:21] <TTilus> deanharris: you dont need to ask "does anyone want to help me" because this is a support channel :)  you can just state your question
[16:21] <Ward1983> kdogg, dunjno just backup to make sure
[16:22] <anirudh0> kdogg: whats the filesystem type?
[16:22] <kevin_405> bazhang, how do i make fwcutter my active driver
[16:22] <kdogg> the fs type will be ntfs
[16:22] <deanharris> TTilus:  i see thanks
[16:22] <kevin_405> bazhang, fwcutter has been installed
[16:22] <Ward1983> kdogg, the filesystem type of the partition you are going to resize he means, which is probably ext3
[16:22] <Quagmire> Guys I have question about hardware compatibility ....lets say it turns out that my CD/DVD  drive turns out to not be compatible. Is there anything you can do to get a piece of hardware to work? Can you request a work around or do those pieces generally get addressed at some point? I'll admit to being a bit ignorant on the subject and I figure maybe this will clear up my questions, so thanks.
[16:23] <kdogg> probably, it was just a normal install
[16:23] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Back.
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, cool
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd ../..
[16:23] <Padhu> Hi
[16:23] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:23] <Ward1983> anirudh0, he's resizing his ext3 partition, to make room for a NTFS partition for vista (and also wants to know how to restore grub afterwards, and add vista to it)
[16:23] <Ward1983> kdogg, use highlighting lol
[16:23] <Padhu> to all :-)
[16:24] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: then   rm -r doc-pak.... then pwd and show me
[16:24] <anirudh0> kdogg: ext3 is probably the safest fs to resize
[16:24] <Ward1983> kdogg, if you type the first few letters of a nickname you can use tab to autocomplete it :)
[16:24] <kdogg> Ward1983 sorry :D
[16:24] <kevin_405> bazhang, are u there ..
[16:24] <Ward1983> kdogg, no problem its just that people else can miss what you say
[16:25] <kdogg> Ward1983  anirudh0  thanks for your help im of to tr that now.
[16:25] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2/doc-pak
[16:25] <Ward1983> kdogg, good luck, dont forget to backup just to make sure !
[16:25] <bazhang> kevin_405, yep
[16:25] <TTilus> deanharris: from what package does that hypotetical program called "processing" come from?
[16:25] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok...  cp -v ../AUTHORS ../Changelog ../GPL ../LGPL ../REAMDE .
[16:25] <khomfy> hello
[16:26] <khomfy> i new at ubuntu
[16:26] <aluado> mimi
[16:26] <khomfy> but i have a problem with firefox
[16:26] <deanharris> TTilus: http://www.processing.org/
[16:26] <Ward1983> khomfy, use epiphany :p
[16:26] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: They worked except cp: cannot stat `../Changelog': No such file or directory
[16:26] <aluado> use Opera
[16:26] <khomfy> it slower
[16:27] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Should that be caps also like the others?
[16:27] <khomfy> it slower
[16:27] <Ward1983> LOL
[16:27] <kevin_405> bazhang, do u know how i can make fwcutter my active driver ..
[16:27] <kevin_405> bazhang, my device still shows ndis
[16:27] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: sorry, it's a typo fo mine...  cp -v ../ChangeLog .
[16:27] <Riverhed> k
[16:27] <Ward1983> khomfy, ok, then it must be all the systems i've used so far that will just open opera and epiphany WAY faster then firefox
[16:27] <hovse> -pl
[16:27] <TTilus> deanharris: i cant find package from ubuntu repos, what name does the package have?
[16:28] <hovse> #ubuntu-pl
[16:28] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: type...  ls   ...they all there now?
[16:28] <TTilus> deanharris: or did you just dl it from the site and install?
[16:28] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yep.
[16:28] <anirudh0> deanharris: interesting program
[16:28] <khomfy> opera just comes without flash plugins
[16:28] <deanharris> TTilus:  yes i dl i from the site
[16:28] <bazhang> kevin_405, did you go into synaptic and install it?
[16:28] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok, cool.   cd ..
[16:28] <deanharris> TTilus: where can i find the ubuntu repos?
[16:28] <bazhang> !broadcom | kevin_405 please read this
[16:28] <khomfy> yesterday ie tried for several times to instal them but just didǹt work
[16:29] <TTilus> deanharris: launch any ubuntu package manager and browse packages
[16:29] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yep
[16:29] <kevin_405> bazhang, yes i installed using synaptic
[16:29] <anirudh0> deanharris: they should be visible in synaptic already...enable extra repos in preferences->repos
[16:29] <Quagmire> Any takers on my simple question?
[16:29] <TTilus> deanharris: apps > add/remove, synaptic, aptitude, ...
[16:29] <bazhang> kevin_405, please read that link
[16:29] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you're in the main linuxwacom-0.8.2 source directory now... correct?
[16:30] <TTilus> deanharris: whats your problem?
[16:30] <jrib> Quagmire: that was easy
[16:30] <deanharris> TTilus:
[16:30] <TTilus> deanharris: installation failed? dunno what to do with it? what?
[16:30] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yes,.
[16:30] <deanharris> TTilus: i guess its the wrong channel
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  because i want to helpw ith the code in the processing (the program)
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  so im on the wrong channel then?
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: aaah!  you should go for processing community, not ubuntu
[16:31] <anirudh0> deanharris: most certainly
[16:31] <deanharris> anirudh0: lol ok thanks
[16:31] <NewtuUbuntu> My computer continues to stop playing mp3 files randomly. If I restart my computer, sometimes that will fix the problem temporarily, but then later that day it will go out again. I don't understand why.
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  thanks
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: just see their site
[16:31] <deanharris> TTilus:  j
[16:31] <TTilus> deanharris: if they have irc, forums, mailinglists, wikis, anything
[16:32] <deanharris> TTilus:  ok :)
[16:32] <TTilus> deanharris: np
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok. time to install it with checkinstall. type in the following...   checkinstall make install    ...it'll prompt for a shor description, type this in for it --> utilities for Wacom tablet devices
[16:32] <onetinsoldier> short*
[16:33] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:33] <Quagmire> Uh, maybe I should have referenced the question I had asked above my request. ...its further up the screen about hardware compatibility
[16:33] <jrib> Quagmire: ask the actual question.
[16:34] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Do I need to change any other settings or enter to continue?
[16:34] <anirudh0> Quagmire: in general, most hardware is supported
[16:34] <anirudh0> Quagmire: though support may be experimental for some
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: nope.. usually you don't need to, so just press Enter... when it done...    dpkg -l linuxwacom
[16:35] <anirudh0> Quagmire: if your piece of hardware is unlucky enough to be unsupported, most of the time you'll just have to wait for the next (many) kernel releases
[16:35] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Installation failed... I'll copy/paste to a pm.
[16:35] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok
[16:36] <luigi> !paste
[16:36] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Pasted.
[16:36] <Quagmire> Guys I have question about hardware compatibility ....lets say it turns out that my CD/DVD  drive turns out to not be compatible. Is there anything you can do to get a piece of hardware to work? Can you request a work around or do those pieces generally get addressed at some point? I'll admit to being a bit ignorant on the subject and I figure maybe this will clear up my questions, so thanks.
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: doh! i forgot something pretty important... sudo
[16:37] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Haha, yeah, I was thinking that.
[16:37] <iluminator101> How do i delete who contents of a particular folder?
[16:37] <bodobacs> hi! I connected a nokia 6233 to ubuntu 8.04 via USB cable. Ubuntu recognize it and I can start to copy my photos to my computer but after about 16 picuters copy stops.
[16:37] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: so, you prbably know what to do...  sudo checkinstall make install
[16:38] <iluminator101> How do i delete whole contents of a particular folder?
[16:38] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, tried it, it failed also.
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> oh???
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> grrrr
[16:38] <kristian_> joaopinto : back from dinner. still around? any thoughts on what we discussed?
[16:38] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Looks like the same error as before.
[16:38] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. do this   sudo -i
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: then   cd /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2
[16:39] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k, then try checkinstall make install as root?
[16:39] <onetinsoldier> yes
[16:39] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Same thing.
[16:40] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: hmmmm, hang on
[16:40] <Weems> is there a network install iso for linux?
[16:40] <rrohde> Hi guys! Question on transparent proxy: when I route clients through a iptables rule that routes from port 80 to port 9666 of a proxy, each URL request ends up in a "no protocol" error in the client's browser.  The proxy is on another machine in the network. Any idea where to look to get rid of this error?
[16:42] <Padhu> Hi to all
[16:42] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... the man pages are going to be installed in the wrong place i believe, unless we start all over. however, they may still work normally. if not, you can open them with 'zless' i believe, let me see. hang on
[16:43] <Padhu> can not browse web using firefox.
[16:43] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k, hanging on ;)
[16:43] <gizm0> can i ask?
[16:43] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: nvm.. even if they don't get picked up by mandb... then we can just make a symlink.
[16:44] <illissius> greetings
[16:44] <gizm0> to many error when i install..what happen?
[16:44] <MF_Debian> rrohde, using squid?
[16:44] <Ward1983> gizm0, you will have to explain what went wrong
[16:44] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... here goes.   mkdir /usr/man /usr/man4
[16:45] <illissius> I did a dist-upgrade and now my sound doesn't work
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, what is your native language?
[16:45] <rrohde> MF_Debian: nope.. some custom made proxy by our programmers here
[16:45] <gizm0> my md5 all ok..
[16:45] <illissius> doesn't seem to be recognizing any sound cards or smth
[16:45] <gizm0> my cd all ok..
[16:45] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on
[16:45] <gizm0> but after i select install ubuntu..its never end..and to many error on my port
[16:45] <gizm0> what that mean
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, you get cdrom errors while trying to start the CD?
[16:45] <gizm0> nope..
[16:45] <Ward1983> gizm0, i meant your motherlanguage, the language you normally speak
[16:45] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: mkdir: cannot create directory `usr/man4': No such file or directory
[16:45] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:45] <gizm0> after proccess intsall ubuntu
[16:45] <gizm0> malay
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed:  looks like you forgot a /
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed:  mkdir /usr/man /usr/man4
[16:46] <YaManicKill> hey guys
[16:46] <kristian_> joaopinto : i did "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb", then "new", then "primary", then "enter" (maximum size), then "write", then "yes" and i get: "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition". i also tried the same except using "logical" and i get the same thing. ubuntu is installed on sda1 so i don't want my machine to boot from sdb1. or does the bootable option having nothing t
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: are you the root user?
[16:46] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, I missed that /
[16:46] <onetinsoldier> k
[16:46] <gizm0> if i can ask..how many minute install ubuntu?
[16:47] <MF_Debian> rrohde, bummer, no community to consult in that case, it will not be a prob with the routing, that bit is fool proof
[16:47] <gizm0> i have wait until 800.sumthin2..
[16:47] <bazhang> gizm0, is the install hanging?
[16:47] <Padhu> hi
[16:47] <YaManicKill> i seem to have a problem with nautilus and i've no idea what is wrong. basically, i can't see anything. it is like all black, and when i click on something it does stuff, but nothing changes.
[16:47] <YaManicKill> its really hard to explain
[16:47] <Padhu> i can't browse internet using firefox. please help
[16:47] <Ward1983> gizm0, sorry i don't understand what went wrong, could you try explaining some more?
[16:48] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:48] <TTilus> ive got a problematic dvd, hardy won't play (older ubuntu plays fine on different box), libdvdcss2 installed, tried with gxine, vlc, totem-gstreamer, totem-xine and mplayer, trials here http://pastie.org/341346
[16:48] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: is there now an empty 'usr' dir in the dir you are currently in?
[16:48] <MF_Debian> YaManicKill, i would post a screenshot somewhere if you can
[16:48] <dowN70> can someone help me set up a cron job for a daily reboot?
[16:48] <Padhu> Internet connection is available and only browser is not working
[16:48] <Ward1983> gizm0, if you prefer help in malay you can also go to #ubuntu-my
[16:48] <Ward1983> gizm0, thats the malaysian ubuntu channel :)
[16:49] <amon> how can i make an apparmor profile to open links sent to me in skype in firefox, i tried to allow skype access to /usr/bin/xdg-open, but now it wants to access firefox.sh
[16:49] <bazhang> gizm0, is the installer hanging?
[16:49] <gizm0> yesh bazhang
[16:49] <sekyourbox> dowN70, you dumbass http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-827095.html
[16:49] <gizm0> it not end..
[16:49] <gizm0> but can install already..but never end..
[16:49] <gizm0> to many error
[16:49] <bazhang> gizm0, upgrade? fresh install? live cd or alternate cd? which version of ubuntu
[16:49] <rrohde> MF_Debian: thougth so, as the iptable rule looks like this: $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $INTIF --dport 80 -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j DNAT --to 192.168.20.1:9666
[16:49] <alaska> I may not be looking everywhere I can, and I may be missing something obvious, but is Rhythmbox skinnable?
[16:50] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I don't see one... let me check and make sure I did it right.
[16:50] <bazhang> gizm0, try to answer all my questions on one line please , otherwise it is very hard to read
[16:50] <illissius> anyone have an idea why my sound suddenly stopped working after I did a dist-upgrade (& reboot)? and how I might go about fixing it?
[16:50] <gizm0> i download the cd..
[16:50] <racquad> hi there. I want to configure Evolution to check for spam on my Imap mailboxes, but I can't. It seems that under Imap, evolution doesn't run spanassassin, because it doesn't download any message.
[16:50] <racquad> any help?
[16:50] <gizm0> i burn the image already..
[16:50] <illissius> it doesn't seem to be recognizing any sound cards, or something like that
[16:50] <gizm0> i check the md5 all corect..
[16:50] <bazhang> gizm0, ONE line
[16:51] <racquad> i've been using thunderbird for years, but I liked evolution style. so I thought I could swap. But spam is a really issue.
[16:51] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:51] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: it's not important.. don't worry about it.. also, i was thinking wrong about making those new dirs. so we will fix it real quick.. ok?
[16:51] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:51] <YaManicKill> heres the screenshot of my nautilus problem - http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3554/screenshotss8.png (btw, i managed to catch the sqaures in the middle, but thats just my desktop wall switcher)
[16:51] <gizm0> i download 8.10 desktop 130 iso..i already check the md5 its same..ok..then i reboot the cd..then i go to install ubuntu..after waiting the installer..its say to many error on my port...and its never end..i dont know
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: just to make sure we don't remove anything that we definitely don't want removed, we will remove the dirs like so...
[16:52] <Ward1983> if i use a persistent livecd, how can i update my kernel?
[16:52] <Ward1983> (its not working if i jsut try to update)
[16:52] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd /usr/man && rmdir man4  ..tell me when you've done that, as root
[16:52] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[16:53] <bazhang> gizm0, okay; try to boot with the kernel parameters quiet and splash disabled then report the exact errors you get; you could also try the text based alternate cd installer disk
[16:53] <alaska> I may not be looking everywhere I can, and I may be missing something obvious, but is Rhythmbox skinnable?
[16:53] <bazhang> gizm0, is this the 32bit or the 64bit and what are your system specifications (ie how much ram, etc)
[16:53] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:53] <dmhardison> I have installed tftpd-hpa and I am trying to get inetd to execute it with: tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /var/lib/tftpdboot, and it will not start it.  I can run it in daemon mode from my terminal and it will work.  Can someone please help me.
[16:54] <gizm0> 32bits bazhang
[16:54] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you with me?
[16:54] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok, tried that and said it couldn't remove man4 because it didn't exist. Went to the /usr/ dir and I see /man/ and /man4/
[16:54] <bazhang> gizm0, well try the other steps I mentioned and paste any errors to paste.ubuntu.com (NOT here) and then give us the url
[16:54] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... while in /usr     rmdir man4
[16:55] <bhuvi> will intrepid be able to run under 256mb ram
[16:55] <YaManicKill> anyone able to help with my nautilus problem? basically it doesnt respond to me ever - http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3554/screenshotss8.png its hard to explain but this is the screenshot. sometimes the sidebar is black as well.
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Just man4 and not man?
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> yes
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: kk
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: let's leave the man dir there
[16:55] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: cd man
[16:55] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:55] <bhuvi> i'm currently strugglin with hardy cant run more than 3 apps simultaneously
[16:56] <AltinT> ﻿hello, is there any way to reset ALL the hotkeys to the way they were on default? (any hard code way, because through the system settings nothing changes)
[16:56] <ti-grrr> anyone get drbl setup in ubuntu?
[16:56] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ln -sv /usr/share/man/man4 .
[16:56] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: k
[16:56] <MF_Debian> rrohde, actually your line looks a little wrong
[16:57] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. good. now...  /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2
[16:57] <bazhang> ti-grrr, what is that
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok.. good. now...   cd /home/riverhed/src/linuxwacom-0.8.2
[16:57] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Done.
[16:57] <kristian87> i'm trying to make a my second hdd into one partition using ext2/3 fs, and mounting it to a dir in my home directory and make it stay after reboot. so far i've done: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb", then "new", then "primary", then "enter" (no change, for maximum size, i only want one partition on the drive), then "write", then "yes" and i get: "No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the curre
[16:57] <ti-grrr> bazhang, drbl is a pex clonezilla server
[16:57] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: then try again.. as root, checkinstall make install
[16:57] <AltinT> is there such a thing as system restore on Ubuntu? i want to have every single change and install removed till a certain day ....
[16:57] <Paul_E> Hi all, I've been a debian server zealot for quite some time and I'd like to know if you could point me to the differences in debian as a server OS and ubuntu--are packages updated more frequently in ubuntu? Is there anything like RHN that redhat uses to get updates that requires a subscription, or is support merely offered as a phone service to supplement what's freely available?
[16:58] <jshriver> Is it possible to scp a file in an already established ssh connection?
[16:58] <allsystemsarego> AltinT, flyback
[16:58] <bazhang> ti-grrr, got a link?
[16:58] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: short description -->   utilities for Wacom tablet devices
[16:58] <ti-grrr> bazhang, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/SettingUpClonezillaDRBLonUbuntu
[16:58] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: if it prompts you for it
[16:58] <AltinT> ﻿allsystemsarego: is that installed on default?
[16:59] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: It still has the description from before but it failed again.
[16:59] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... pm me them?
[16:59] <allsystemsarego> AltinT, no, it's here http://code.google.com/p/flyback/
[17:00] <bazhang> ti-grrr, is this still being developed / maintained? that link is for Feisty
[17:00] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[17:00] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: just a few lines at a time i guess
[17:00] <Padhu> This is due to firefox work off line
[17:01] <kevin_405> bazhang,  i give up on fwcutter
[17:01] <Riverhed> Hmm, did I get spam kicked? :P
[17:01] <bazhang> Riverhed, yes
[17:01] <ti-grrr> bazhang, i do not know. i had a centos pxe server running just fine, now i changed it to ubuntu, thought i would get it going again
[17:01] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yep
[17:01] <Ward1983> (its not working if i jsut try to update)
[17:02] <Ward1983> if i use a persistent livecd, how can i update my kernel?
[17:02] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[17:02] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> mouse issue, wireless mouse dont work on ubuntu startup, it start to work after couple min while loged on(Ibex Intrepid)
[17:02] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: either just a few lines at a time or use pastebin
[17:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html ti-grrr you seen this?
[17:03] <AltinT> ﻿allsystemsarego: but will i still be able to go back a few days, even if i installit only now?
[17:03] <bazhang> Ward1983, persistent usb you mean? unless you are going to use a non-closed session on that cd (not possible afaik)
[17:03] <Ward1983> bazhang, persistant usb harddrive :)
[17:03] <Ward1983> bazhang, i just dunno how i need to call it
[17:03] <iso50> Can someone suggest the best podcast client for Ubuntu, I was using iTunes on windows
[17:03] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Ok, should all be there now.
[17:03] <ti-grrr> bazhang, this would be for installing ubuntu. i need conezilla to image my winxp machines. would this do the same?
[17:04] <bazhang> Ward1983, did you /msg ubottu usb on how to do that?
[17:04] <allsystemsarego> AltinT, I don't know
[17:04] <AltinT> ﻿allsystemsarego: ok thanks!
[17:04] <Ward1983> bazhang, nope just !usb ?
[17:04] <bazhang> ti-grrr, not investigated clonezilla, could well do
[17:04] <bazhang> Ward1983, yep
[17:04] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: yeah, it is.. but what the heck that error is about is i'm not sure... these are the kind of things that a package maintainer has to deal with...hang on a moment
[17:05] <eax> Hi :) I have a whole map full of stuff that I want to make my user the owner of but right now I have to do this manually, what's the easiest way to mass change that? chown.. what?
[17:05] <ti-grrr> bazhang, clonezill is a norton ghost for linux. works really well. i just need to network boot computers to restore an image of winxp instead of manually reloading
[17:05] <Ward1983> bazhang, no info on kernel updates there
[17:06] <allsystemsarego> eax, recursive chown
[17:06] <bazhang> ti-grrr, best bet would be to check that link for 8.04 I gave you
[17:06] <MF_Debian> rrohde, try this -> $IPTABLES -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $INTIF -p tcp --dport 80 -s 10.0.0.0/8 -j DNAT --to 192.168.20.1:9666
[17:06] <eax> allsystemsarego: Thanks :)
[17:06] <bazhang> Ward1983, presumably if it is persistent though should allow, provided the usb key is big enough to handle it
[17:06] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ls -d libs  ...is that dir there?
[17:07] <Ward1983> bazhang, nope, i used that link to make it
[17:07] <Ward1983> bazhang, and kernel updates just doesnt work, all the rest works fine though
[17:07] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Nope.
[17:08] <Ward1983> bazhang, i installed several progrqams and put data in my home dir, etc, everything was persistent, but kernel updates just gave an error according to the updater
[17:08] <bullgard4> !webmin
[17:08] <bazhang> Ward1983, well you could get a fully updated system and do the usb-creator method
[17:08] <YaManicKill> anyone able to help with my nautilus problem? basically it wont respong to me - http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3554/screenshotss8.png
[17:08] <Ward1983> bazhang, so i need to reinstall everytime a kernel update comes out?
[17:09] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: ok... i have to be going soon dangit. i have the source unpacked... let me compile it so i can see wth this missing file crap is about
[17:10] <bazhang> Ward1983, kernel updates are not that frequent, presumably you would be using this usb disk for on the fly computing, dont see how much of issue it would really be to have a slightly out of date kernel in that situation
[17:10] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright.
[17:10] <Ward1983> bazhang, the USB creator method didnt evern list my harddrive by the way, i had to use unetbootin
[17:11] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[17:11] <tommy179> Hallo
[17:11] <Ward1983> bazhang, i just want my persistent USB drive as nice as possible :) so im trying to find out if i can somehow do kernel updates without reinstalling it, which im sure is possible, only i dunno how
[17:12] <tommy179> s u
[17:13] <linux29684> my resolv.conf keeps changing upon reboot and randomly while logged in, anyone know how to make it static?
[17:14] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: as far as i can tell.. the developer screwed up and didn't inlcude those two files that the 'Makefile'(use by make install) is complaining about
[17:14] <Riverhed> Hmm...
[17:14] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you should write those filenames and errors down and e-mail him
[17:15] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Yeah, I'll do that I guess.
[17:15] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Thanks a ton for all the time and help, I really appreciate it.
[17:15] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> ubuntu ibex intrepid on last update make on starting up bluetooth error, when log on mouse dont work couple minutes then start to work!!
[17:15] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: your welcome... toinstall the old version again...  apt-get install wacom-tools
[17:15] <linux29684> Duh_ubuntu[a]: bluetooth is not supported stably in intrepid
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> to install*
[17:16] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: Alright, thanks.
[17:16] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> i disable it in services but i have still mouse issue
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: you're welcome... and good luck!
[17:16] <linux29684> Duh_Ubuntu[a]: Bluetooth does not work for the majority of devices in Ubuntu Intrepid
[17:16] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: I'm off to write these economics papers I've been putting off by doing this ;)
[17:16] <linux29684> my resolv.conf keeps changing upon reboot and randomly while logged in, anyone know how to make it static?
[17:16] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> when i log on mine wireless mouse dont work for couple min then start to work
[17:16] <onetinsoldier> Riverhed: roger... i've got to go myself.. bye!
[17:17] <Riverhed> onetinsoldier: See ya.
[17:17] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> wireless mouse is not bluetooth device
[17:17] <linux29684> ok, some are
[17:17] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> it start to work after couple min after i log on
[17:17] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> but  it take up to 5 min
[17:18] <MF_Debian> linux29684, flag the file -i, although that is sledgehammer and ant type stuff
[17:18] <n8tuser2> Duh_Ubuntu[a]-> use a wired mouse then
[17:19] <linux29684> MF_Debian: do you have the exact command i should type in terminal?
[17:19] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> all ubuntu distro till now worked well till now, even this one before last update
[17:20] <Duh_Ubuntu[a]> btw this is zigbee device that emulate hardware mouse conected to it, so it is like wiered mouse
[17:21] <MF_Debian> linux29684, man chmod
[17:21] <dmhardison> is it bad to run tftp server as root?
[17:21] <linux29684> sudo chmod -i resolv.conf
[17:21] <linux29684> invalid option -- 'i'
[17:21] <fosco_> Linuturk, chattr
[17:21] <fosco_> linux29684, chattr
[17:22] <linux29684> Linutruk, tried chattr
[17:22] <linux29684> failed to work
[17:22] <linux29684> tried chmod 444, failed to work also
[17:22] <dom_juan> alguem do brasil?
[17:22] <genii> !br
[17:24] <Linuturk> do what?
[17:24] <leohartx> is anybody here is expert in using vmware ?
[17:25] <linux29684> my resolv.conf keeps changing upon reboot and randomly while logged in, anyone know how to make it static?
[17:26] <leohartx> i got a problems when create lanrouting between 2 virtual machines
[17:26] <mib_zp4tvgxc> can anyone help me or point me to where I can get help -----> I switched my svn server laptop from college to home, I cant submit or update it since its trying to connect to college ip, is there a way to fix that? --thanks
[17:28] <linux29684> my resolv.conf keeps changing upon reboot and randomly while logged in, anyone know how to make it static?
[17:28] <linux29684> i have had this problem for months and no on in #ubuntu knows the solution, chattr and chmod failed
[17:30] <therealnanotube> hey... anyone familiar with ktorrent? i'm getting a lot of "authentication failure" in the logs, wondering what's up with that? my ports are forwarded, and i have double-checked by ssh-ing to a remote server, and then telnetting to my ip/torrentport. is there any reason authentication failures should be so frequent?
[17:30] <genii> linux29684: So long as one of your ethernet adapters is set to for dhcp it will always want to overwrite your resolv.conf with whatever the dhcp server hands it as dns information
[17:30] <dan> hey is there a way I can install vinagre from intrepid on hardy?
[17:30] <dan> the new version of vinagre is about the only thing I liked about intrepid
[17:30] <dan> and I'd otherwise like to wait until jaunty is released
[17:30] <dan> but I'd like that one app updated
[17:31] <linux29684> genii, this is linux, there should be a way to "lock" the file so root cannot change it
[17:31] <linux29684> it keeps changing the DNS to the vpn dns and will not clean up back to regular DHCP
[17:31] <paranoid_ndroid> how can I record the sound output from an application that's being played through the speakers?
[17:32] <genii> linux29684: Rather than that (which you've been told how to do with chattr) instead add in the /etc/network/interfaces file specifics about the connection for whatever ethX device it is
[17:32] <whoop> Howdy, I need help with OpenOffice 2.4 Word Processor spell checking. I am trying the make it check in the dutch language, but it doesn't seem to work...
[17:32] <therealnanotube> paranoid_ndroid: stick one end of the audio cable into output, the other end into mic input, and there you are. :)
[17:32] <linux29684> genii: let me check the /etc/network/interfaces
[17:33] <paranoid_ndroid> therealnanotube, already thought of that. haven't got the cable atm.
[17:33] <linux29684> genii: how do i manually set the dns for eth1 (wifi) in there?
[17:34] <therealnanotube> genii: linux29684: edit your dhclient.conf, and add a "prepend domain-name servers" line.
[17:34] <Padhu> /etc/resolve.conf
[17:34] <bruenig> reslv
[17:34] <bruenig> resolv
[17:34] <paranoid_ndroid> already tried audacity, pulse audio and alsa, change all the settings
[17:34] <paranoid_ndroid> the only input source I get is "Mic"
[17:34] <therealnanotube> genii: linux29684: that way, when dhclient overwrites resolv.conf, it will still write in the dns servers you want.
[17:34] <linux29684> therealnanotube: already did the prepend thing to dhclient.conf
[17:35] <Padhu> use tab key for auto completion
[17:35] <linux29684> it didn't work
[17:35] <linux29684> changing the /etc/resolv.conf manually is only temporary, it keeps changing that back to vpn settings
[17:35] <genii> Yes, the dhclient conf file can also be used
[17:35] <therealnanotube> linux29684: in that case... instead of using network-manager, use wicd, that will allow you to set up static dns servers.
[17:35] <linux29684> ok, i'll try to install that then
[17:35] <therealnanotube> linux29684: it's really much better than network-manager, in terms of flexibility (and stability, i might add). look on wicd.net
[17:36] <linux29684> the current network-manager in ubuntu is unstable as ubuntu jihad
[17:36] <Padhu> if you are using DNS IPs get from windows, then it will not work
[17:36] <jimjimhim> I am having a problem with Rhytmbox crashing when playing mp3's.  I have the restricted-extras installed and the other players can play it fine.  Its just rhytmbox that crashes when I tell it to open an mp3
[17:36] <linux29684> Padhu: im not
[17:36] <therealnanotube> paranoid_ndroid: sorry, then i don't know...
[17:38] <Padhu> veryfy gsteam plugin is installed for rythembox
[17:38] <jimjimhim> Padhu, how ?
[17:38] <Andy_> hi i am using xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS and i want to copy a theme from the desktop to the theme folder, after doing a bit of searching i came up with the command cp, but can anyone enlighten me as how to use it, eg. i want to copy the file named Xaphire from  the desktop to file system=>usr/share/themes
[17:39] <JasonosaJ> lol Andy `man cp`
[17:39] <uselessalways> Is anyone familiar with the issue regarding the inability to burn dvd's on hardy and intrepid? I've added all_generic_ide to the kernel line in grub's menu but it didn't make a difference. I can burn data cds fine but dvd's of any shape or form are no-go. It's an LG supermulti pata drive
[17:39] <jimjimhim> Padhu,  it says gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is installed
[17:39] <john330> jimjimhim, you may want to uninstall and reinstall Rhythmbox.
[17:39] <Andy_> huh?
[17:39] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a problem with gnomebaker. it keeps crashing when i try to burn a dvd. how do i find out whats causing this
[17:39] <jimjimhim> john330, yes, thanks I did do that and rebooted and no love
[17:40] <jimjimhim> =(
[17:40] <uselessalways> Jaffarkelshac, you and I are in the same boat
[17:40] <Padhu> if you are having internet then search it in synaptic package manager. before that you should be add repository of restricted package
[17:40] <JasonosaJ> Andy_, Type in the command `man cp` and read how to use cp.
[17:40] <Andy_> uh okay..manual :D okay
[17:40] <Andy_> but..uh you can give me the example directly and spare me some time
[17:40] <Guillem> I have my laptop and my eee, and I wish to create a wireless conection between them both. I start a new wireless on the eee, and the laptop sees it, but none of them is able to authentificate. Do I need some sort of dhcpserver or what am I missing?
[17:40] <jimjimhim> Paudhu i already have the restricted extras installed and all other players work with mp3's
[17:41] <JasonosaJ> Andy_, I could, but If you use linux you need to learn to utilize the documentation. Or you will never learn how to do anything.
[17:41] <jimjimhim> neven mind I am going to try banshee
[17:42] <Andy_> agreed but look it this way I read the manual but i need a example to get it know..its like a chemical titration experiment you wont know it perfect till you do the titrations practically.
[17:42] <uselessalways> jaffarkelshac, I've been following the bug report here about the dvd burning issue, but it's not encouraging. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/200337
[17:42] <Padhu> just open terminal and type #tail -f /var/log/messages . then try rythembox, check log message. it will tell the hint of problem
[17:42] <Jaffarkelshac> i will take a look at it uselessalways
[17:42] <Flannel> JasonosaJ: Please be helpful.  rtfm style answers are not.
[17:43] <jimjimhim> I have a Nvidia 8800gt and I'm getting poor graphics performance (choppy) has anyone seen this?  I have the latest driver from Nvidia already installed.  I tried to disable compiz and tweak settings to no avail
[17:43] <Andy_> JasonasaJ: so can you giev me a example?
[17:43] <Flannel> Andy_: `cp source dest` is the general way that cp works
[17:43] <JasonosaJ> Flannel, I'm sorry, but If you don't want people to learn for themselves, I'm not going to hang out here.
[17:43] <Andy_> okay source = name of the file right?
[17:43] <AltinT> sudo dpkg -i <deb file name>
[17:43] <AltinT> for such a command to work, where should my file be located?
[17:43] <JasonosaJ> Flannel, I told him exactly what he needs to know to use cp
[17:43] <Flannel> JasonosaJ: You're welcome to go elsewhere.  Those are the channel rules, please respect them.
[17:44] <Flannel> Andy_: source is the stuff you want to copy, dest is the place you want to copy to, yes.
[17:44] <jtrucks> in the default apache2 ubuntu config, there is no ServerName directive.
[17:44] <Andy_> okay thank you..and you to jason :D and eveyone else
[17:44] <jtrucks> what is the recommended wy for Ubuntu to set that? in the apache2.conf file? a separate file? outside apache via DNS or /etc/hosts?
[17:45] <Flannel> jtrucks: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting%20Apache
[17:45] <quambo> Hi. So i've enabled all of the default repositories in the adept front-end, but still can't find a lot of the things that i would think should be in any linux repo (like vlc)
[17:45] <quambo> anything else needs to be done?
[17:45] <AltinT> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=202033&package_id=284428 ... can someone tell me which of these files i need? i'm on ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)
[17:45] <Padhu> system=> preference=> appearance => visual effects then select none and apply it. logout and login
[17:45] <quambo> are there more sources than those on the disk?
[17:45] <jtrucks> Flannel: ahh.l thanks!
[17:46] <digital_trucker> Hello all.  I'm attempting to install Ubuntu to my hard drive.  There are already two partitions on it, one XP, and one I use for storage.  There is an unpartitioned space about 70GB or so that I would like to install Ubuntu to (I want to leave the two existing paritions alone)  How do I set the installer up properly?
[17:46] <Flannel> quambo: Be sure to update your package cache.  There should be an "update" or "reload" command in adept.  That grabs the new lists from the interblags
[17:46] <Andy_> Flannel: so this should work right? but its not 'cp Desktop/Xaphire /usr/share/themes' its saying omitin Desktop/Xaphire
[17:47] <Flannel> Andy_: You'd need to use sudo with that command to copy to /usr/share/themes
[17:47] <Guillem> hmm seems a dhcp issue
[17:47] <Andy_> uh like..sudo cp etc etc?
[17:47] <Flannel> Andy_: Yeah
[17:47] <quambo> Flannel: I've fetched & upgraded everything. Actually there were a whole chunk of servers which it failed to connect to. My dns seems to be working so they might be wrong by default since its been this way for the past week or so.
[17:48] <uselessalways> Can hdparm change the UDMA mode of an optical drive? (without breaking anything?)
[17:48] <disown> Hi. How can I see when a certain (to be released) version of a software package is scheduled to be included in a repository? I would like to know when ImageMagick is going to be updated.
[17:48] <Andy_> Flannel: still it is "omiting Desktop/Xaphire"
[17:48] <therealnanotube> hey... anyone familiar with ktorrent? i'm getting a lot of "authentication failure" in the logs, wondering what's up with that? my ports are forwarded, and i have double-checked by ssh-ing to a remote server, and then telnetting to my ip/torrentport. is there any reason authentication failures should be so frequent?
[17:48] <quambo> uselessalways: yes it should be able to.
[17:49] <quambo> i've never heard of anybody breaking anything with hdparm
[17:50] <uselessalways> quambo: thank you
[17:50] <Padhu> ubuntu installation- select manual guided partition and in next screen select large free space
[17:50] <AltinT> ﻿http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=202033&package_id=284428 ... can someone tell me which of these files i need? i'm on ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)
[17:50] <quambo> you probably have to pass a few kernel paramaters to make permanent changes to devices
[17:50] <Padhu> ktorrent- are you an normal user
[17:50] <LeeQ> Hello folks... I need a little help getting my dual monitors working.  Both monitors show the ubuntu loading screen, but after it loads, ubuntu only shows on one monitor and the other gets no signal.
[17:50] <digital_trucker> Padhu: you mean select 'Guided - use largest continuous free space'?
[17:51] <Baba_B00ie> therealnanotube, you're prolly downloading private torrents..
[17:51] <uselessalways> quambo: yeah, i figure, I'm just grasping at straws here trying to get my dvd burner to work. I can burd cds but not dvds (hardy and intrepid)
[17:51] <Andy_> Flannel: this is what I tried 'sudo cp Desktop/Xaphire /usr/share/themes' error 'Ommiting Directry Desktop/Xaphire'
[17:51] <quambo> uselessalways: they are IDE right? sata drives need a different program to configure
[17:52] <uselessalways> quambo: Yup, IDE
[17:52] <sankalp> hi everyone
[17:52] <LeeQ> no one in here uses dual-monitors?
[17:52]  * uselessalways uses triple monitors.
[17:52] <sankalp> could anyone help me in using geany ide
[17:52] <quambo> uselessalways: gentoo wiki had a good guide on UDMA. you might find it with google.
[17:52] <takamarou> Hi, I'm running ubuntu intrepid, and I'm trying to get shockwave to work.  I've got firefox 3 installed under wine, along with shockwave.  everything is working, except for the text sizes are all off.  Any known solutions for this?
[17:52] <sankalp> i am not seeing python autocompletion here
[17:53] <Padhu> yes. It will make two partitions which are /,swap. it will configure an grub with window boot script. both partions are extened
[17:53] <sankalp> please help me
[17:53] <Andy_> hi, i tried copying using, this is what I tried 'sudo cp Desktop/Xaphire /usr/share/themes' error 'Ommiting Directry Desktop/Xaphire'
[17:53] <dannyboy> how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?
[17:53] <sankalp> how to enable autocompletion in geany plz help
[17:53] <sankalp> ide
[17:53] <sankalp> for python
[17:54] <anunez48> i'm installing ubuntu on my laptop and i nedd help
[17:54] <Andy_> hello..can anyone figure out what is the problem with my command?
[17:54] <Andy_> hi, i tried copying using, this is what I tried 'sudo cp Desktop/Xaphire /usr/share/themes' error 'Ommiting Directry Desktop/Xaphire'
[17:54] <DRebellion> Andy_, use cp -r
[17:55] <bazhang> Andy_, where is the file
[17:55] <woli> to use the totem pl parser in a c application, do i have to download the lib, or the lib-dev?
[17:55] <Andy_> desktop
[17:55] <bazhang> Andy_, did you cd to the Desktop?
[17:55] <Padhu> cp command- you must use absolute path
[17:55] <jrib> Andy_: is there a reason you aren't using ~/.themes/ instead of /usr/share/themes/?
[17:55] <ruhaan_jslip> hey all is there a tool similar to HFS for ubuntu?
[17:55] <ani1> If you mount a partition on an existing partition is there anyways to access the formers files and have it save changes?
[17:55] <Padhu> Ubuntu Installation - I am always available. Start now
[17:56] <joeb3_> Andy_, cp -r
[17:56] <Andy_> jrib, I didn't know i can use that too
[17:56] <_Kate> Hey... Anybody have any tips with eSATA drives at 8.04
[17:56] <_Kate> ?
[17:56] <_Kate> =/
[17:56] <jrib> ani1: yes, mount it and make changes
[17:56] <anunez48> i have problem with the camera
[17:56] <_Kate> Silly Ubuntu won't 'see' them except for the ata1 drive being put in =/
[17:56] <anunez48> and the sound
[17:56] <jrib> Andy_: yep.  Just hit ctrl-h in nautilus, create .themes in your HOME if it does not already exist and use nautilus to copy in there
[17:56] <woli> _Kate, what kind of tips?
[17:56] <Andy_> joeb3_, can you giev an example how to use cp -r?
[17:56] <_Kate> Well, how to fix it for one... =0
[17:56] <Pici> Andy_: Most themes don't even need to be copied to ~/.themes manually anyway, you can just use the Appearance tool in System>preferences.
[17:56] <_Kate> And to load eSATA devices
[17:56] <Andy_> i am using xubuntu 8.0.4 LTS
[17:57] <_Kate> All I ever get when I plug in an eSATA device:
[17:57] <_Kate> [44503.972624] ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
[17:57] <_Kate> [44533.897941] ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
[17:57] <_Kate> [44533.897949] ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4)
[17:57] <_Kate> [44533.897952] ata1: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
[17:57] <FloodBot3> _Kate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <Andy_> Pici, I don't have pref menu
[17:57] <_Kate> [44538.895466] ata1: hard resetting link
[17:57] <woli> _Kate, mount?
[17:57] <Pici> Andy_: ah, xfce, sorry. I'm not sure what appearance tool they use,
[17:57] <joeb3_> Andy_, sudo cp -r Desktop/Xaphire /usr/share/themes
[17:57] <Padhu> cp - cp -r copy recursively read man page
[17:57] <woli> _Kate, I think you should format it...
[17:57] <_Kate> ...
[17:57] <_Kate> Thanks woli...
[17:57] <_Kate> =p
[17:57] <_Kate> It is formatted
[17:57] <_Kate> lol
[17:57] <FloodBot3> _Kate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <woli> ahh
[17:58] <_Kate> oops... >.<
[17:58] <dannyboy> how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?
[17:58] <jimjimhim> I can't play mp3's and I added restricted extras and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and it still doesnt work in Banshee... Any ideas?
[17:58] <ani1> more along the lines of this...I have an existing directory "~/Foo" which contains the directory "1" and the file "2.txt". Now, normally, if I mount another filesystem into "~/Foo", I won't be able to access "2.txt" or "1/" AND any new files I create will be saved to the mounted filesystem. After unmounting the filesystem, "1" and "2.txt" are accessible again and the new files aren't (since they're on the filesystem that was unmounted). Is
[17:58] <ani1> there anyway around this? i know how to work around this but wondering if there is a direct solution for this?
[17:58] <Andy_> joeb3_, Thank you
[17:58] <Andy_> and all of you too
[17:58] <woli> look it at the ubuntu help site
[17:58] <Andy_> :D
[17:58] <Andy_> Good Night, Sweet Dreams
[17:58] <_Kate> I've been looking... =/
[17:58] <_Kate> And, it's not listed in any of the /dev/sd* devices
[17:59] <AltinT> ﻿http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=202033&package_id=284428 ...
[17:59] <AltinT> can someone tell me which of these files i need? i'm on ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)
[17:59] <Padhu> fdisk -l
[17:59] <Pici> ani1: This isn't a bug. Why are you trying to do this?
[17:59] <Guest33361> t la jimou?
[17:59] <_Kate> I did padhu
[17:59] <jrib> !fr | Guest33361
[17:59] <genii> AltinT: 32 or 64 bit Hardy?
[17:59] <Ashfire> I have a full ubuntu install on a flash drive. I broght it to another computer and when i'm connected to a wireless network, the status light for the wireless blinks (in a regualr pattern), it's not supossed to do this, how do i fix it.
[18:00] <_Kate> All I see is the boot drive and the 13TB LVM =/
[18:00] <ani1> Pici, i know its not a bug but I was wondering if this is possible
[18:00] <MadChopr> hi guys, i'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.10, i do have an SATA RAID controller (in the ubuntu 8.10 install it asks if i want to enable this and installs dmraid); the problem i'm having is i think with grub, it gives me an error 17 after i reboot.  should i not use LVM ?  i don't understand grub at all (other than it's a boot loader) i have a /boot folder but not a /boot/grub folder.
[18:01] <mlLK> is it legal to add cvs repo to my sources.lst
[18:01] <Pici> mlLK: It won't work.
[18:01] <MadChopr> ** again it's ubuntu 8.10 amd64 server
[18:01] <jimjimhim> I can't get mp3 players banshee or rhytmbox to play mp3's they just crash.  It works fine in VLC...
[18:01] <Pici> ani1: No. Use a different folder to copy/rsync the files into if you need them in another place as well.
[18:01] <Padhu> raid 1 or raid 5
[18:01] <mlLK> Pici: oh no
[18:01] <johnnydollar> Hello all, having an intermittent problem with hibernation.  I'm on a thinkpad T23 Running Hardy 2.6.24-21 generic.  When I select hibernate the screen blanks and HD activity starts moving memory from ram to HDD, but then screen blanks, and eventually the resume and "enter password" screen comes up
[18:01] <jrib> mlLK: why do you want to?
[18:01] <MadChopr> Padhu: raid 01  (or is it 10?)
[18:01] <MadChopr> Padhu: i think it's raid10
[18:01] <mlLK> jrib: it's not included w/ apt
[18:01] <ikonia> mlLK: raid 0+1
[18:01] <jrib> mlLK: what isn't?
[18:01] <johnnydollar> Not sure why hibernation is failing and any help would be appreciated.
[18:02] <mlLK> eclipse-pdt
[18:02] <Padhu> RAID1
[18:02] <robophred> bah, shame there isnt an irc client for android
[18:02] <jimjimhim> i did this already https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[18:02] <JimmyJazz14> Does rebuilding packages from source using specific CFLAGS actually help anything
[18:02] <anunez48> any tutorial to install camera  ID 04f2:b044 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd ????????????
[18:02] <dannyboy> how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?
[18:02] <ikonia> JimmyJazz14: depends
[18:03] <hallowname> where does db_cxx.h live? in db?
[18:03] <robophred> does the kernal log when it panics?
[18:03] <ikonia> JimmyJazz14: for the average user changing them from the options they where packaged with causes no adventage, only danger
[18:03] <ikonia> robophred: it doesn't hence he panic
[18:04] <robophred> hm, how would i find the cause then
[18:04] <robophred> i get random repeating panics about an hour from startup
[18:04] <ikonia> robophred: read the messages on screen, monitor what you where doing when it paniced, then start taking it to lower level
[18:04] <genii> AltinT:  	codelite-1.0.2527_i686.deb  for 32bit and     codelite-1.0.2527_x86_64.deb  for 64bit, at any rate
[18:05] <Allquantor> hello, i just installed ubuntu 8.10 and thr germany language pack but alas the keyboars setting is still english, even if i have explicitly set it to germany layout under settings/keyboard
[18:05] <robophred> is no message, computer freezes, fans shut off, and caps/num lights blink
[18:06] <robophred> not the most helpful of signals
[18:06] <ikonia> robophred: there is a bug logged and a forum post about this, the cause is unknown, there is a theory it's down to a specific intel chipset, but I believe I disprove that this morning
[18:06] <abchirk> hm as root I can open with alsamixer my real soundcard... but with my normal user I get only 2 bars to manage... and not the 10 bars or more like under root. My user is in the groups audio what can I do?
[18:06] <johnnydollar> I guess I should add that the system log reports this on a search of the term hibernate:Dec 17 01:31:54 john-thinkpad syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
[18:06] <Guillem> Hmm, do I need dnsmasq to do ad-hoc wireless conection or dnsmasq-base is enough?
[18:06] <JimmyJazz14> thanks, I've been trying this rebuild thing lately to see if I can get a little bit snappier system
[18:07] <m9co> Hello all... Why my players on Ubuntu 8.10 with proprietars codecs shows me bad pictures???
[18:07] <ikonia> abchirk: go to preferences and enable the additional controls
[18:07] <genii> robophred: the 3 keyboard lights blinking mean a kernel panic, usually
[18:07] <abchirk> ikaros under alsamixer?
[18:07] <m9co> Please help me...
[18:07] <abchirk> ehm ikonia
[18:07] <JimmyJazz14> so far thing do seem somewhat faster.
[18:07] <Ahmuck-Jr> hi.  i did a cups update this morning and now my hp laserjet 1200 shows it's not connected.  was there breakage?
[18:07] <ikonia> abchirk: sound icon in the top right
[18:07] <robophred> can you give a link to that post? i am using a phone web browser right now
[18:07] <jimjimhim> I can't get mp3 players banshee or rhytmbox to play mp3's they just crash.  It works fine in VLC...
[18:08] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[18:08] <JimmyJazz14> m9co what kind of bad pictures?
[18:09] <robophred> mibbit on pda = fail
[18:09] <m9co> Its blink...  Мерцает весь monitor... )))
[18:09] <abchirk> ikonia on the icon in the right there are all channels.. but not in alsamixer?
[18:09] <bazhang> !ru | m9co
[18:09] <digitalfallacy> hii all ...does interpid can detect usb modems ??
[18:09] <ikonia> abchirk: shouldn't matter as your using pulse audio
[18:10] <abchirk> ikonia alsamixer  say card :pulseaudio...
[18:10] <rww> !winmodem | digitalfallacy
[18:10] <Guillem> OK, It is clear I need dnsmasq, not only dnsmasq-base. and seems I have to configure it somewhat, since it is not providing an IP to the other machine (but the two nm lights are green, which didn't happen with plain dnsmasq-base)
[18:10] <ikonia> abchirk: thats thats fine, control it via the sound icon, not alsa mixer
[18:10] <abchirk> hmm. :P
[18:10] <JimmyJazz14> m9co what are you trying to play?
[18:10] <rww> digitalfallacy: (assuming you meant dial-up modem, not cable or DSL modem ;) )
[18:11] <Ashfire908> Is there a program to control leds on a laptop?
[18:11] <digitalfallacy> rww : ya wireless modem i meant .. .
[18:13] <Saga_> Question -- I encrypted my laptop HDD using Ubuntu 8.10 alternative iso -- Full Encrypted LVM.   Does anybody here know if it's possible to resize encrypted LVM to make new encrypted VG + LV?
[18:13] <rww> digitalfallacy: you mean a Wireless networking USB plugin thingie? In that case, it depends on the chipset manufacturer
[18:13] <jimjimhim> Anyone good with audio issues?
[18:13] <abchirk> jimjimhim just ask
[18:14] <jimjimhim> I can't get mp3 players banshee or rhytmbox to play mp3's they just crash.  It works fine in VLC...
[18:14] <jimjimhim> i did this already https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[18:15] <imachine> hey
[18:15] <ddgoose> anyone have a good .screenrc with tabs and scrollback/copy-paste ?
[18:15] <imachine> on Ubuntu, 8/10. how can I save something from firefox using 'save link as', when the dest folder is an ssh share?
[18:16] <imachine> I mount it no problem and see it with nautilus as a directory.
[18:16] <jimjimhim> I can't play mp3's and I added restricted extras and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and it still doesnt work in Banshee... Any ideas?
[18:16] <imachine> why can't I save to it directly from ffox ?
[18:16] <imachine> is it possible ?
[18:16] <digitalfallacy> rww : ya that one ... i guess its huawai
[18:16] <imachine> I think I did things like that problem free back in kde 3.5 a while ago on another distro.
[18:16] <imachine> doesn't gnome support that ?
[18:16] <digitalfallacy> rww : ya that one ... i guess its huawei
[18:18] <AltinT> i have just installed codelite, but i can't run it through alt+f2 ... how can i run the app?
[18:18] <Ghoul> holy.. so many people
[18:18] <imachine> yeah, buntu's popular.
[18:18] <horstle> moin
[18:19] <digitalfallacy> what does one mean by dependencies ? ubuntu dependencies ?
[18:19] <Ghoul> i'm glad :)
[18:19] <imachine> whatever something is dependant on
[18:19] <carlf> When I do a big dd, my free memory drops to almost zero. It looks like it's mostly taken by buffers. Is this expected behavior?
[18:20] <imachine> usually if you have binary apps, built against libraries, then their deps would be those libs, for example.
[18:20] <imachine> there's different kinds of deps.
[18:20] <imachine> build deps, run deps.
[18:20] <Padhu> application depends some other applications, libraries or others
[18:20] <Chousuke> carlf: free memory being at 0 is expected behaviour
[18:20] <prathamesh> hi
[18:20] <prathamesh> need help
[18:20] <Chousuke> carlf: or at least, near 0
[18:20] <imachine> you need for example kernel headers or sources, if you want to build some modules. so those would be build deps.
[18:20] <imachine> otherwise, it's run deps.
[18:20] <prathamesh> how to configure cable net on linux
[18:20] <imachine> that's that in a whim.
[18:20] <qneo> does anyone have Dell XPS M1330 here please?
[18:20] <imachine> prathamesh, should 'just work'.
[18:20] <imachine> prathamesh, otherwise, you need to set up pppoe.
[18:20] <Chousuke> carlf: as long as you're not swapping, pay no attention to memory usage. :)
[18:21] <carlf> Ok. Just made me nervous. I'm running with no swap but 6G of ram. Was worried Linux would start killing processes.
[18:21] <imachine> if you have that ;)
[18:21] <Chousuke> carlf: nah
[18:21] <imachine> prathamesh, cable over here is mostly just ethernet, dhcp.
[18:21] <Chousuke> carlf: it's probably just caching the stuff dd reads from the HD/whatever
[18:21] <digitalfallacy> imachine: thx  i got what u said
[18:21] <imachine> np
[18:21] <prathamesh> i tried to configure
[18:21] <prathamesh> but getting error
[18:21] <Chousuke> carlf: if any app needs memory, cache will be the first thing to go.
[18:21] <imachine> prathamesh, do you have a password/user ?
[18:22] <imachine> prathamesh, then most likely you have pppoe.
[18:22] <prathamesh> i tried at my friends home
[18:22] <imachine> prathamesh, 8.10 ?
[18:22] <samanen> Can someone tell me where can i get ubuntu gamers edition wallpaper!?
[18:22] <carlf> Chousuke: Ok. Thanks.
[18:22] <prathamesh> 8.04
[18:22] <imachine> prathamesh, 8.04 wasn't all so great with networkmanager.
[18:22] <prathamesh> error says go for modconfig
[18:22] <Jack_Daniels> buenas
[18:22] <imachine> prathamesh, 8.10 on the other hand, features 7.x version of networkmanger.
[18:23] <prathamesh> but when i tried to configure on on diff pc
[18:23] <imachine> prathamesh, so you can config pppoe links vpns and whatnot.
[18:23] <prathamesh> it work
[18:23] <imachine> prathamesh, dunno man
[18:23] <Pici> samanen: Its not an offical supported edition of Ubuntu, so best bet is to ask whoever makes that
[18:23] <imachine> prathamesh, you don't provide enough valid debug info to help you.
[18:23] <anix72> i am kubuntu user and consider switching to ubuntu, so i can better help my colleagues and friends with ubuntu. however, i have slightly different requirements which were not all met by default packages. i wonder if someone can give advice with the two issues left: (a) i often write python + xml in kate (using syntax highlighting and saved sessions) and (b) in konsole i often search for strings in the (unlimited) history of shell output... can i ha
[18:23] <imachine> sorry
[18:23] <imachine> anix72, do you like kubuntu? stick to kubuntu.
[18:23] <Sheepherd> whats the difference between the desktop and the server edition? is it similar to win xp home and win xp pro?
[18:23] <imachine> anix72, fire up ubuntu in a virtual box or the like.
[18:24] <imachine> Sheepherd, server edition, is, well, for servers. aimed at them at least.
[18:24] <fosco_> Sheepherd, no, server comes with no X server at all
[18:24] <imachine> Sheepherd, read more on ubuntu.com
[18:24] <prathamesh> i run command : sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[18:24] <prathamesh> it runs successfully
[18:24] <imachine> prathamesh, networking is for static networking, in /etc/
[18:24] <prathamesh> then i run sudo ppoeconf
[18:25] <imachine> prathamesh, you should run /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
[18:25] <anix72> imachine: i love both flavors :) at home i use ubuntu for a couple of weeks, at work kubuntu for many years, but really miss these two things in ubuntu.
[18:25] <prathamesh> this time i got eror
[18:25] <imachine> prathamesh, then pppoeconf
[18:25] <prathamesh> ohk
[18:25] <imachine> anix72, I miss a bunch of things in Ubuntu. been a kde 3.5 user a long time.
[18:25] <imachine> ubunt/gnome is simple. yet I miss all the flicks and switches Kde provides.
[18:25] <imachine> I like to tinker with things, at times, to set them up just the way I'd like it.
[18:25] <imachine> I'm more productive that way, I guess.
[18:26] <imachine> my previous distro moved to kde 4, so I moved to ubuntu :P
[18:26] <imachine> since I sorta felt forced onto moving to gnome, and then the way was shown.
[18:26] <dannyboy> how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?
[18:26] <anix72> imachine: yeah, i understand. that's the same reason with me. but i wasn't too excited with recent changes in kde (for example, dolphin by default)
[18:26] <Sheepherd> ok thx guys
[18:26] <imachine> anix72, neiter was I.
[18:27] <imachine> anix72, let the kde devs show with time tho.
[18:27] <imachine> who was right.
[18:27] <imachine> :-)
[18:27] <imachine> honestly tho, 3.5 was state of the art imho ;)
[18:27] <Zoasterboy> "﻿ how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?" I have the same question. Whenever I run some Flash app with sound, other programs that use sound won't work. Same vice versa.
[18:27] <imachine> Zoasterboy, get a sound card with a hardware mixer.
[18:27] <rww> imachine, anix72: 1) This is probably better discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic, 2) Don't use your enter key as punctuation, please, 3) I hear KDE 4.2 is much improved over 4.1 :D
[18:27] <imachine> none of those cheapo realtek crap.
[18:27] <celsdogg> yeah
[18:27] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[18:28] <Zoasterboy> ﻿imachine: laptop :/
[18:28] <imachine> rww, it is indeed improved, we still seem to favor kde 3.5 I guess. I haven't used kde4 much anyway, only .1 a bit. also, I think #kubuntu would be a better place :P but tbh, I got a film paused in totem just side by the irssi terminal, so I'm off ;]
[18:28] <jimjimhim> I can't play mp3's and I added restricted extras and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and it still doesnt work in Banshee... Any ideas?
[18:28] <imachine> Zoasterboy, same here, stuck with crappy soundcard.
[18:29] <imachine> Zoasterboy, I think you ought to tinker with alsa settings.
[18:29] <imachine> dmix etc in particular.
[18:29] <sekyourbox> Is there a built-in monitor for ubuntu, which will tell you if sound is being used? I dont have my speakers plugged in, and I'm converting a video for wich i want to make sure that the sound is working on.
[18:29] <imachine> dunno the rest. gota go cheers :)
[18:29] <Zoasterboy> thanks for the help, later!
[18:29] <anix72> imachine: thank you anyway :)
[18:29] <NewtuUbuntu> Could someone help me out real quick with setting up file sharing on my network? I already have the router set up and all the computers are connected to the internet, but I don't know how to set up file sharing..
[18:30] <dannyboy> how can i make sound card work with different applications at the same time?
[18:30] <Ghoul> ok, can i use dpkg -i package.deb to install package offline before i try? :)
[18:30] <Zoasterboy> Tried Samba?
[18:30] <therealnanotube> Baba_B00ie: well, not /all/ connections are rejected - things are downloading and working fine, generally. if the torrent was private, all connections would fail, no?
[18:30] <Zoasterboy> dannyboy: Tried Samba?
[18:30] <johnnydollar> I've been googling and still don't find anything which exactly matches the problem.  My system never powers off when hibernation is selected.  It moves from ram to HDD, then screen blanks and hibernation light blinks.  Then the "enter password to resume" box comes up and brings me back to my desktop.  Any ideas?
[18:31] <dannyboy> Zoasterboy: how do i try samba?
[18:31] <Ward1983> dannyboy, lol that was not meant for you :)
[18:32] <Ward1983> dannyboy, samba is for filesharing over a network :)
[18:32] <imachine> anix72, try #kubuntu
[18:32] <lalovan> hey i just bought a new laptop with win vista and ai want to dualboot with ubuntu how do i do it??
[18:33] <dannyboy> Zoasterboy: the thing is that if im listening to music i cant listen to notifications or anything else because itll say that my sound is busy
[18:33] <therealnanotube> !dualboot | lalovan
[18:33] <dannyboy> yea i figured lol..that why i was like wat does samba hav to do with sound? lol
[18:33] <brendan0powers> hi, I have about 20 servers runing hardy, kernel version 2.6.24-19-server, and about once every 2 months, one of them will lock up hard.
[18:33] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: always the same one?
[18:34] <Zoasterboy> Oh, I must have mixed up names while reading haha
[18:34] <brendan0powers> they all have about the same hardware(different ram or disk sizes), and they lock up solid, no log messages or anything
[18:34] <Zoasterboy> who asked about file sharing?!
[18:34] <Ward1983> dannyboy, if people reply to your question they will generally highlight you (highlighting means they will type rour name, moest clients will then show that line in a color so it stands out)
[18:35] <brendan0powers> therealnanotube: no, there was one that did it twice, I'm pretty sure its fairly random
[18:35] <jedi06> j #perl
[18:35] <allsystemsarego> does Ubuntu provide a way to access US-only content from outside the US?
[18:35] <therealnanotube> allsystemsarego: what kind of content? you mean like region-locked dvds?
[18:36] <dannyboy> roger
[18:36] <allsystemsarego> therealnanotube, no, I mean online
[18:36] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, no specific way, you could use a proxy, but that is possible with other OSes aswell
[18:36] <therealnanotube> allsystemsarego: ah, then you basically have to use a proxy that's in the us. but that's the same story no matter what os.
[18:36] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, by the way its illegal, and most proxies would not allow it either
[18:37] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: anything showing up in the logs?
[18:38] <JohnL923> Hi
[18:38] <manolo> hi has anyone have the problem that they try to go to System--> Administration--> Login Window, and it will appear for a fartion of a second and then disappear?
[18:38] <allsystemsarego> Ward1983, therealnanotube, this is what's available for other OS's, not Linux: http://lifehacker.com/394410/access-us+only-web-content-with-hotspot-shield
[18:38] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, thats the same pronciple
[18:38] <JohnL923> Can you do OCR (convert scanned text -> editable text) on Ubuntu?
[18:38] <Ward1983> principle
[18:39] <brendan0powers> therealnanotube: nope, just freezes solid
[18:39] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, why do you think hotspot shield has a limit :) your computer asks the content from the hotspotshield server, the server then goes to the website you requested
[18:39] <genii> JohnL923: Yes.
[18:40] <ninjabuntu> Having Issue trying to get my Backup internal Hard drive mounted. I'v been getting an error message every time I try.. the same error message ever time no less. even tried reinstalling ubuntu from a Zero filled hard drive and still no joy. I guess it all started from a failed attempt at a Duel boot to windows XP, so I jsut blew out Windows and installed back to all an ubuntu drive again. Now my second hard drive that i used for
[18:40] <ninjabuntu>  backing up images, documents and 3D models is having issues. something about an unclean shutdown, and that NTSF still showing that it's in use... How do I fix this with out losing the files that i have backed up on that drive?
[18:40] <genii> JohnL923: gocr-gtk for instance
[18:40] <therealnanotube> allsystemsarego: that's nothing but a bunch of adware that wraps around a proxy. you don't need that, just find a regular web proxy. look in the comments on that very same page, some guy is suggesting some proxy...
[18:40] <billll> hey
[18:40] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: well, that's kinda hard to diagnose... :)
[18:40] <billll> how hard is it to make my wireless router connetc to my main router?
[18:40] <manolo> hi has anyone have the problem that they try to go to System--> Administration--> Login Window, and it will appear for a fraction of a second and then disappear?
[18:40] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: you need to tell us what the error is
[18:40] <brendan0powers> therealnanotube: is there a way to get more information when the server locks up?
[18:40] <ikonia> billll: ask in ##hardware or ##networking, nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:40] <billll> thank you
[18:40] <billll> :)
[18:40] <ikonia> billll: read the manual for your harware, it's often detailed
[18:41] <therealnanotube> billll: not hard - just stick the ethernet cable one end to your router, one end to your wireless, et voila. :)
[18:41] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, http://www.ventanazul.com/webzine/articles/openvpn-ubuntu-and-hulu
[18:41] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: I have a Screen capture of the error, does that help? I can send it to you if you wish...
[18:41] <kasdaye> I had a really weird thing just happen to me. I updated my server to 8.10. My samba share wasn't working anymore, so I tried to "sudo fstab -l" and apparently fstab is not installed...?
[18:41] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: if you want
[18:41] <billll> thereal: I want to make my sub router a wifi basically sort of
[18:41] <ikonia> kasdaye: it's not a command
[18:41] <ikonia> kasdaye: cat /etc/fstab is
[18:41] <ikonia> kasdaye: as is sudo fdisk -l
[18:41] <balrog__> is there a way i can wake a computer up from screensaver via ssh?
[18:41] <Ward1983> allsystemsarego, no free way though
[18:41] <Ghoul> ok, does anyone know a GNOME program that helps connect my UMTS/HDPDA USB modem to the internet; so i can have some internet on my ubuntu 8.04?
[18:42] <Guest90962> Hello.
[18:42] <billll> I have a belkin router I want my linksys router to connetc to it and act as a accesspoint
[18:42] <kasdaye> I must be losing it, thanks
[18:42] <ikonia> balrog__: kill the router
[18:42] <jrib> balrog__: man gnome-screensaver-command  iirc
[18:42] <ikonia> billll: I explained, nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:42] <billll> ikonia I exlpaing what i donig =P
[18:42] <TTilus> regionset tells me "drive plays discs from region(s):, mask=0xFF" but what the heck does that really mean?  what should it be playing?
[18:42] <ikonia> balrog__: sorry, kill the screen saver
[18:42] <manolo> GNOME PPP is what i use for mu Sprint air card
[18:42] <billll> but thank u for the help
[18:42] <billll> moo
[18:42] <kasdaye> Hmm. Now to fix Samba.
[18:42] <Pici> balrog__: Ignore ikonia's advice, it was meant for another person.
[18:42] <ikonia> kasdaye: you've not told use the problem with it
[18:43] <Guest90962> Someone knows how to find some help with video edition under ubuntu?
[18:43] <ikonia> Pici: balrog__ I meant kill the screen saver
[18:43] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: on it's way now
[18:43] <ikonia> Pici: I did correct it
[18:43] <Ward1983> manolo, you forgot to highlight Ghoul
[18:43] <Pici> ikonia: I missed it :)
[18:43] <Ghoul> i'd greatly appreciate it; so far the only other software that i google and find is 'umtsmon' however that is a KDE app needs all thise qt3 libraries, which i don't have
 GNOME PPP is what i use for my Sprint Aircard
[18:43] <balrog__> heh
[18:44] <Ghoul> thankc manolo
[18:44] <manolo> NP
[18:44] <Ward1983> :)
[18:44] <manolo> :D
[18:44] <Ward1983> lol
[18:44] <Ghoul> i'll download it and make a offline instalation :)
[18:44] <Guest90962> join #cinelerra
[18:44] <Ghoul> see what happens
[18:44] <kasdaye> ikonia: I'm not sure really, it's just not active. I don't even know how to diagnose. I'll keep looking till I have something more concrete.
[18:44] <Ward1983> Guest11862, its /join :)
[18:44] <ikonia> kasdaye: is samba running ?
[18:44] <Guest90962> ...........dont remember how to join channels:(
[18:44] <ikonia> kasdaye: I assume you mean a samba server not client
[18:45] <Ward1983> Guest90962, its /join
[18:45] <ikonia> Guest90962:  /join #channel
[18:45] <nAhIaN> Hei Guys I'm Home !!!
[18:45] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: well, i understand it's possible to recompile the kernel with a bunch of debug/kernelhack options that will make it more verbose. never had reason to do it myself, though. if you can't find anything else, you could always give that a shot.
[18:45] <Ward1983> Guest11862, sorry wrong highlight :)
[18:45] <Guest90962> thanks a lot.
[18:45] <Ward1983> Guest90962, every IRC command starts with / :)
[18:45] <ikonia> brendan0powers: ignore that, recompiling the kenrnel won't do anything
[18:46] <Ghoul> lol, helping even the spammers :)
[18:46] <Ghoul> good stuff
[18:47] <kasdaye> ikonia: The daemon is.
[18:47] <kasdaye> Four of them ...
[18:47] <Ward1983> anyone know how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system?
[18:47] <gpled> in 8.10, why does the floppy mod not load on its own?
[18:47] <ikonia> kasdaye: ok, so this is a samba server yes
[18:48] <ikonia> kasdaye: your serving shares, not mounting them ?
[18:48] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: says the file upload was aborted...
[18:48] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: put it on a free image hosting site
[18:48] <ninjabuntu> oh ok...
[18:48] <ninjabuntu> BRB
[18:48] <kasdaye> I think would be the problem. I'm just examining smb.conf right now
[18:48] <ikonia> wakkobot: what ar eyou booting from ?
[18:49] <ikonia> kasdaye: please answer my quesiton, your serving shares, not mounting htme, yes / no ?
[18:49] <ikonia> mounting them
[18:49] <Ward1983> anyone know how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system made by ubootin?
[18:49] <kasdaye> I'm serving shares, yes.
[18:49] <ikonia> wakkobot: what are you booting from
[18:49] <ikonia> kasdaye: ok - so what are the symptoms, remote clients can't mount them ?
[18:50] <daVinciIT> hi all.
[18:50] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/NinjaKrow/LinuxError/MountError.png
[18:50] <brendan0powers> therealnanotube: ikonia: hmm, i need to find a way to get more info about why this could be happening, any other ideas?
[18:50] <ikonia> brendan0powers well is there any dump messages on screen ?
[18:51] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: this isn an NTFS drive that was shutdown/marked as dirty, you need to follow the instructions on the error message, however you may cause data corruption
[18:51] <ikonia> !away > njpatel_away
[18:51] <brendan0powers> ikonia: not that I can see, although when it happens, I can't swith tty's or anything
[18:51] <daVinciIT> hi have that problem. the 'menù bar' disappears when I click on the 'exit' icon.
[18:52] <ikonia> brendan0powers: does the capslock light on the keyboard work if you press capslock ?
[18:52] <daVinciIT> wich is the hot key
[18:52] <brendan0powers> ikonia: i'm not sure
[18:52] <daVinciIT> to restart xSErver ?
[18:52] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[18:52] <ikonia> brendan0powers: worth checking, gives you an idea of would area the crash is in
[18:53] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: ahhh crap... the thing i I can't afford to loose the data on the drive... how likely will it be that i lose it all?
[18:54] <jimjimhim> I can't play mp3's and I added restricted extras and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and it still doesnt work in Banshee... Any ideas?
[18:54] <brendan0powers> ikonia: unfortuenetly it doesn't happen that often. If caps lock doesn't work, what would that mean?
[18:54] <jimjimhim> anyone good with audio stuff?
[18:54] <Guest90962> hi
[18:55] <giovanni> where i can download 64 bit driver for Atheros Ar5700EG
[18:55] <billll> I trying to adjust mysound on xubuntu but can seem find anythnig to adjust the sound
[18:55] <giovanni> where i can download 64 bit driver for Atheros Ar5700EG
[18:55] <drewsuf> why is mounting a usb drve such a pain?  Nice that I get a dialogue offering to open the drive in konq, but it doesn't have permission so it just spews a hal error...
[18:56] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: orry lost connection, it's impossible to say if it will corrupt but from what I've seen the odds are small
[18:56] <drewsuf> is there a way to connect a drive and have it just mount to a dir that the logged in user can write to?  You know... like on uhm... "other" operating systems
[18:56] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: i followed one of the two methond and i got this error message doing to..."$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
[18:57] <ninjabuntu> WARNING: Forced mount, reset $LogFile.fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Backup: No such file or directory"
[18:57] <ikonia> drewsuf: what file system is on the drive?
[18:57] <TTilus> now ive officially tried everything, even (re)setting region code, no avail, still getting "open_wv_file: non-seekable inputs aren't supported yet."
[18:57] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: thats fine, thats log file warning
[18:57] <JohnL923> When you "make install" and you get permission denied does that mean you have to enter your password in terminal first before doing "make install"? If so what do you type to enter your password in terminal?
[18:57] <TTilus> ive got a problematic dvd, hardy won't play (older ubuntu plays fine on different box), libdvdcss2 installed, tried with gxine, vlc, totem-gstreamer, totem-xine and mplayer, trials here http://pastie.org/341346
[18:57] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: sudo mkdir /media/Backup
[18:57] <TTilus> this feels like total dead end  :-/
[18:57] <ikonia> JohnL923: what ar eyou trying to buid ?
[18:57] <ninjabuntu> ok
[18:57] <drewsuf> ikonia: I have several.  One is ext3, one is NTFS.  The ext3 one works more or less, but it won't auto mount r/w.  The ntfs one is just not okay
[18:57] <daVinciIT> hi all. how to kill "bonobo-activation-server" before the login screen?
[18:57] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: ok
[18:58] <ikonia> drewsuf: if the volume label is unique they should auto m ount
[18:58] <kristian87> i want to add a partition to /etc/fstab. the partition is "/dev/sdb1", it is mounted to "~/TESTING", and the fs is "ext3". atm my /etc/fstab looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87246/ - i am reading about manually adding it/editing the file, but is there a command that i can use that will add it, so i don't do any mistakes? if not can someone please tell me what i should add as a line?
[18:58] <JohnL923> ikonia - I'm just trying to install a program through terminal and I get "cannot create regular file . . . [filename/directory] . . . : Perimission denied"
[18:58] <drewsuf> ////ikonia:
[18:59] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: Thank you so much.... will this be an issue from now on? or doe this fix that?
[18:59] <ikonia> JohnL923: which program
[18:59] <drewsuf> this is just stupid
[18:59] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: depends if the dirty bit can be removed from the disk
[18:59] <JohnL923> gocr
[19:00] <ikonia> ninjabuntu: there are tools, but I wouldn't use thenm on linux due to ntfs being propriatary, you can just chkdisk on windows you'll remove the problem
[19:00] <brendan0powers> ikonia: i've confirmed with someone else that numlock does not work after the server freezes
[19:00] <JohnL923> I want to scan 2 pages and have them ocr'ed. I'm not sure how so I'm trying GOCR.
[19:00] <ikonia> brendan0powers: ok, so sounds lke th it's a kernel panic
[19:00] <drewsuf> volume labels are stupid.... this whole thing is stupid... this should just fricking work when I plug it in....
[19:00] <ninjabuntu> ikonia: huh... i don't want to use windows anymore... Hence why this issue started in the first place...
[19:00] <drewsuf> I am so fricking frustrated right now.... screw this... I give up
[19:00] <Guest90962> hi buddies
[19:01] <genii> kristian87: In keeping with uuid theme of your fstab, we should find the uuid of your sdb1. So paste result of: sudo blkid /dev/sdb1
[19:01] <Guest90962> trying to add a repo.....but i cant.
[19:01] <Guest90962> some help please.
[19:01] <jrib> Guest90962: provide more details (on a single line)
[19:01] <ninjabuntu> I'm gonna try a reboot and see what happens...
[19:01] <Guest90962> http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[19:02] <brendan0powers> ikonia: is there a good way to get a backtrace or something when this happens
[19:02] <Photoguy> I have lagging video playback on streaming videos.
[19:02] <Photoguy> Ubuntu 8.10
[19:02] <JohnL923> Anyone here OCR scanned text to editable text? If so what do you use?
[19:02] <jrib> Guest90962: and?  What did you try?
[19:02] <jrib> !who | Guest90962
[19:02] <nDuff> Any hints on getting the Xephyr included in Ibex to play nice with evdev?
[19:02] <ikonia> brendan0powers: depends how comfortable you are reading kernel dumps, what I would check is the syslog on the system see if anything was moaning before it panics
[19:03] <ikonia> brendan0powers: also run the system monitor tools to monitor resources while it's in use, that can give you clues
[19:03] <brendan0powers> ikonia: nothing unusual in the logs, and the systems aren't particularly busy at the time
[19:03] <Photoguy> Ubuntu 8.10
[19:03] <Photoguy> I have lagging video playback on streaming videos.
[19:03] <ikonia> brendan0powers: any 3rd party kernel modules ?
[19:03] <JohnL923> ikonia - I want to scan 2 pages and have them ocr'ed. I'm not sure how so I'm trying GOCR.
[19:04] <brendan0powers> ikonia: no, should just be stock ubuntu server kernel
[19:04] <Guest90962> jrib: tried to add in adept thirt part repositories.
[19:04] <ikonia> brendan0powers: ooh a server kernel
[19:04] <ikonia> brendan0powers: what hardware ?
[19:04] <jrib> Guest90962: did you read the link you gave?  It gives you the command to use.  Use the second one that starts with "echo"
[19:04] <ikonia> brendan0powers: are we talking home user PC stuff, or a proper bit of server hardware
[19:04] <brendan0powers> its an intel chasis, p4 dual quad core, raid card from adaptec, i can send you more details if you want
[19:05] <jrib> Guest90962: those are commands for the terminal, not adept
[19:05] <kristian87> genii : there you are again! :-D - here is the echo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87250/
[19:05] <ikonia> brendan0powers: I'm only asking as running the server kernel on home user kit can cause issues, but that looks quite a realistic setup
[19:05] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[19:05] <Cpudan80> I am having trouble using WPA2 (Enterprise) on Intrepid
[19:06] <ikonia> Cpudan80: what wirless card ?
[19:06] <JohnL923> Nobody here OCR's on Ubuntu?
[19:06] <daVinciIT> hi all. is possible reinstall ubuntu without format harddisk?
[19:06] <Cpudan80> ikonia, broadcom something or other
[19:06] <brendan0powers> ikonia: not sure if you saw the earlier comment, but we have about 20 of them spread through several locations, all ab out the same hardware
[19:06] <ikonia> JohnL923: what's OCR
[19:06] <jrib> Guest90962: what isn't clear?
[19:06] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ughhh ha troublesomeone one
[19:06] <Cpudan80> ikaros, WPA2 worked fine under HH - so I know it isnt the card itself
[19:06] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: see here: http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:iqsvgfcXG_QJ:www.av8n.com/computer/htm/kernel-lockup.htm+debug+kernel+panic&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[19:06] <ikonia> brendan0powers: no I missed that earlier
[19:06] <daVinciIT> JohnL923: I think OpenOffice supports OCR
[19:06] <brendan0powers> ikonia: oops, that went to the wrong person
[19:06] <ikonia> Cpudan80: didn't think it was hardware but the kernel version cvhanges module compatability a lot in 8.10
[19:06] <Cpudan80> ikaros, It seems like Ubuntu doesn't pass the EAP type to the controller
[19:07] <JohnL923> ikonia - Converts scanned image of text to text
[19:07] <daVinciIT> JohnL923: also some Scanner software like:'Scanner Ulity'
[19:07] <Cpudan80> sorry that should be for ikonia
[19:07] <ikonia> Cpudan80: what makes you think that out of interest, what's pushing your a clue ?
[19:07] <ikonia> "you a c clue"
[19:07] <Cpudan80> ikonia, OK but unencrypted wifi still works, as does other non WPA2 networks
[19:07] <Cpudan80> Like WEP/WPA ...
[19:07] <heril> okay, so when my master volume is set at 50% and everything else I can set in alsamixer is maxed, the sound is muted? what could be causing this and how can it be fixed
[19:07] <Cpudan80> Even WPA2 (non enterprise)
[19:08] <Cpudan80> ikonia, what's pushing my what?
[19:08] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: there are some tips in that link on getting info on a locked up kernel.
[19:08] <Cpudan80> ikonia, sorry - its atheros not broadcom
[19:08] <andrewfree> Hey guys, i have a php script now that needs to send an email. This is when i relized that i need to setup a mail server or something on my ubuntu server.
[19:08] <brendan0powers> therealnanotube: thatnks, this looks helpfull
[19:08] <kristian87> genii : well i have edited to this now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87253/ - but the <pass> section i don't know what to add, but im reading on a site now, might figure it out. :-)
[19:08] <therealnanotube> brendan0powers: you're welcome, good luck :)
[19:09] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I'd put a small ammount of money that there is a there is an incompatibatiliby with your hardware/currenty kernel/wifi module
[19:09] <ikonia> Cpudan80: can you find out exactly what card/model it is please
[19:09] <ikonia> Cpudan80: I meant earliy what was giving you a clue to the problem
[19:10] <stonki> hi, I am struggling with apache2 and virtual host on ubuntu. I was using Gentoo in the past on my server and never had any problems. Now the 2nd virtual domain is ignored.. Any hints ?
[19:10] <Cpudan80> ikonia, I know there is a problem because I cant connect to the WPA2 network
[19:10] <ikonia> Cpudan80: sorry, I thought something was giving you a clue that it was not passing wpa2 info
[19:10] <Flannel> stonki: Where did you put the second one?
[19:10] <Flannel> stonki: filesystem-wise
[19:10] <ikonia> Cpudan80: if you can find out the exact card model I can do some research on the current modules
[19:10] <kristian87> genii : correction <options>, <dump> and <pass>.
[19:11] <Padhu> hi
[19:11] <ikonia> Cpudan80: this used to be a common issue with certain intel cards and certain kernels
[19:11] <ikonia> Cpudan80: but only very specific modles
[19:11] <ikonia> modles
[19:11] <ikonia> models
[19:11] <heril> anyone have any ideas on that sound problem?
[19:11] <stonki> Flannel: I created /srv/www/htdocs/DOMAIN
[19:11] <Cpudan80> ikonia, how do I find out the exact card?
[19:12] <stonki> Flannel: and add a second file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabale/
[19:12] <mmh> hello
[19:12] <ikonia> Cpudan80: lspci will give you a clue, but you could always read the spec on the machine on the web
[19:12] <stonki> Flannel: just like under the gentoo system
[19:12] <mmh> hello
[19:12] <Flannel> stonki: Make the file in sites-available, and then use a2ensite to symlink to to sites-enabled (that shouldn't be causing a problem, but its a better practice anyway)
[19:12] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[19:12] <stonki> Flannel, I did it this way
[19:12] <Flannel> stonki: did you set your document root to /src/www/htdocs/domain?
[19:12] <NewtuUbuntu> Can someone please help me set up a workgroup between my Ubuntu machine and my fiance's Windows machine?
[19:13] <stonki> Flannel: of course
[19:13] <mmh> what ru talking about
[19:13] <Flannel> stonki: Are they different ports? or what?
[19:13] <Cpudan80> ikonia, Atheros 5212/5213
[19:13] <osman> hi there i need to install directx 9 for win but i can installed can someone help me play i
[19:13] <stonki> no, same IP.. Virtual Domaisn
[19:13] <Flannel> mmh: Hi.  This is an Ubuntu Support channel, if you're looking for conversation, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:13] <ikonia> Cpudan80: thats a chipset, let me see if thats enough to go on
[19:13] <stonki> no, same IP and Ports.. Using Virtualhosts
[19:14] <Flannel> stonki: Oh right, but not https.  Do you get any errors when you restart apache?
[19:14] <Flannel> stonki: (sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[19:14] <stonki> no errors.. and of course I did a restart
[19:14] <Cpudan80> ikonia, the laptop is a T42
[19:14] <ikonia> Flannel: is it with doing a sudo apache2ctl configtest ?
[19:14] <ikonia> Cpudan80: ahh a think pad, ok, that makes it easier to look up
[19:14] <Flannel> ikonia: you mean stonki
[19:14] <heril> okay, so when my master volume is set at 50% and everything else I can set in alsamixer is maxed, the sound is muted? what could be causing this and how can it be fixed
[19:15] <ikonia> Flannel: I meant you as you where guiding
[19:15] <ikonia> Flannel: seeing what you thought
[19:15] <NewtuUbuntu> Can someone please help me set up a workgroup between my Ubuntu machine and my fiance's Windows machine?
[19:15] <osman> i need to install directx for wine can someone help me please
[19:15] <allsystemsarego> !samba | NewtuUbuntu
[19:15] <ikonia> stonki: can you do an "sudo apache2ctl confgtest" please
[19:15] <ikonia> stonki: configtest that should read
[19:16] <serafin> hola
[19:16] <stonki> root@dom1:/etc/apache2/sites-enabled# apache2ctl configtest
[19:16] <stonki> Syntax OK
[19:16] <ikonia> stonki: thats a good start
[19:17] <majnoon> note to self:coffee in computer FAST way to shut it down
[19:17] <NewtuUbuntu> thanks allsystemsarego -- i guess i'll give that a try, even though i've been working with guides for the last half hour and nothing has been helping
[19:17] <ikonia> stonki: so as I understand it you've got 2 sites, and when you visit the second one it shows the first one ?
[19:17] <stonki> ikaros_, yes
[19:17] <ikonia> stonki: ok, so the problem for that is normally the "NameVirtualHost" vaarible in the config file needs to be set
[19:17] <Linuxrevolution> Floodbot3: any parmis
[19:17] <pyrophelia> Ok how do I get rid of this retarded NetworkManager Applet you guys installed in the last update?
[19:17] <bobber205> I installed nagios with apt-get
[19:18] <stonki> I did that. Right at the start it says "NameVirtualHost *:80 (once)
[19:18] <bobber205> I installed nagios-nrpe wiht apt-get but I cannot find the binary
[19:18] <bobber205> does anyone where it is or what I did wrong?
[19:18] <stonki> and than in each file at the start "virtualhost *:80"
[19:18] <stonki> in <> brackets
[19:18] <ikonia> stonki: now in the <VirualHost> tags you need to specify what interfaces and ports you want it to listen on
[19:18] <heril> pyrophelia: 1)retarded?2)just?3)uninstall the networkmanager package?
[19:19] <ikonia> stonki: thats odd, that should be working then
[19:19] <heril> when my master volume is set at 50% and everything else I can set in alsamixer is maxed, the sound is muted? what could be causing this and how can it be fixed
[19:19] <maria1991> Hello, I'd like to install the python-ogre bindings under ubuntu 8.10. I found http://wiki.python-ogre.org/index.php/LinuxBuildV2. Can these steps be simplified, if I have the libogre-dev package installed and only want to add the python bindings?
[19:19] <stonki> well. welcome to my life :)
[19:19] <kristian87> i'm adding a partition to /etc/fstab, but i have no clue what to add under <options>, <dump> and <pass>. can someone please help me with this? this is my current /etc/fstab file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/87260/ - please note that i have added lines 10 and 11 manually! any help/thoughts is welcome! :-)
[19:19] <joeb3_> bobber205, dpkg -L nagios-nrpe | less
[19:20] <Cpudan80> ikonia, Im still not sure though --- the authentication server says "bad username/password" when I connect
[19:20] <bobber205> thanks!!
[19:21] <heril> kristian87: defaults 0 0 should work, unless you need special settings
[19:22] <genii> kristian87: Apologies on lag, work required me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/87262/ as a guideline. Replace GEORGE with your username and MOUNTPOINT wit the actual dir name
[19:22] <kristian87> heril : alright thanks! :-) what about the <options> category?
[19:22] <heril> defaults
[19:23] <manish_> i am not able to put my computer to sleep or hybernate. Please guide me to do so...
[19:23] <Las> How can I figure out which version of freeciv to download? I don;t understand the graphics options, thanks
[19:23] <icewaterman> manish_: it will not necessarily work at all
[19:23] <kristian87> genii : no worries! i thought you had left permenantly! :-( will have a look at the guideline, thanks. :-)
[19:24] <zben> Warning: newby alert - anybody answer q's on Dell Mini 9?
[19:24] <icewaterman> manish_: depends on your bios mostly and it is rather complex to deal with, so probably none will do so
[19:24] <manish_> icewaterman, why is that so, it was working earlier now suddenly it has stopped working since few days
[19:24] <kristian87> heril : ok thanks! :-)
[19:24] <maria1991> somebody using ogre and can help with the installation (see my question above, or I can repeat it)
[19:25] <manish_> icewaterman and i have not altered any of the bios settings for a long time now
[19:25] <heril> when my master volume is set at 50% and everything else I can set in alsamixer is maxed, the sound is muted? what could be causing this and how can it be fixed
[19:26] <genii> kristian87: You probably want user in the options after "defaults" since default options do let regular user in
[19:27] <kristof> how can I prevent pidgin from taking over the logout button?
[19:27] <kristian87> genii : i have edited the file to what your paste shows. under options i have "user" atm. do you mean i should remove that and add "defaults" instead?
[19:27] <manish_> icewaterman did you see my responce ( i can type is again)
[19:28] <heril> kristian87: both
[19:28] <manish_> Hi genii, how are you... I am unable to sleep or hybernate my laptop.... can you help me with that...
[19:28] <genii> manish_: Probably not
[19:29] <manish_> genii were you out somewhere ... Its been a while i saw you..
[19:29] <manish_> ok thanks for that
[19:29] <kristian87> heril : "users,defaults" i presume i should add then? with a comma and no spaces. am i correct? sorry about all the questions, just want to make sure i do this correct. :-)
[19:29] <emil_> hmm
[19:29] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[19:29] <kristof> In 8.10 you can change your pidgin status from the logout button, but it changes the logout button and I don't want that. Help me change that back please.
[19:30] <heril> kristian87: correct
[19:30] <genii> manish_: Yes, work required me for an exteneded period. Sorry not to be of much assistance today
[19:30] <manish_> icewaterman do you think there is any other reason why the function is not showing up or can you give any clue as to what do i need to google
[19:30] <zben> Pkg installer sez "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'" trying to install skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386.deb does this mean Mini-9 is IA64 or something?
[19:30] <kristian87> heril : thanks for your confimation. will edit it, save and do a reboot to see if it works. :-) i'll be back! :-P
[19:30] <manish_> genii... thats ok ... thanks any ways
[19:30] <genii> kristian87: No, put defaults,users           because subsequent options override earlier ones
[19:31] <heril> kristian87: no need to reboot to test
[19:31] <heril> unless the drive isn't installed
[19:31] <icewaterman> manish_: with 8.10 the method of suspend and resume was switched, there lies your cause. i cannot help, i do not have time for this
[19:31] <heril> sudo mount -a
[19:31] <heril> mounts everythin in fstab
[19:32] <kristian87> genii : ok i will have <options>="defaults,users" instead. are you sure about "users"? earlier you said "user"?
[19:32] <manish_> icewaterman  can you atleast help me with what do i  need to google
[19:32] <kristian87> heril : ok, thanks, will do that instead then. :-)
[19:32] <manish_> heril ... can you help me with sleep and hybernate.. they suddenly got disfunctional some days back
[19:32] <icewaterman> manish_: ubuntu ACPI S3
[19:33] <genii> kristian87: Yes, nice catch there, is user and not plural. This will let regular username and not only root/admin use it
[19:33] <heril> manish_: negative, I have no clue where to start
[19:33] <uxley> Could someone please help - I'm trying to understand the new 8.10 xorg.conf situation, but I am not finding any docs online that can tell me how to manage it. I need to ensure that all compositing is disabled, yet my xorg.conf file is 0 length. I have grep'd and searched online but cannot find an adequate answer
[19:34] <kristof> how can I prevent pidgin from taking over my logout button (gnome)?
[19:34] <manish_> heril any idea on what do i need to google (please dont tell me ubuntu ACPI S3 ) i am not able to understand a bit that ways... kinda new to ubuntu...
[19:35] <john330> How do I turn off who enters the room and who leaves the room?
[19:35] <heril> uxley: you should be able to just disable compositing in setting>preferences>appearance
[19:35] <kristian87> genii : ok, since the dir/partition is only for me, i will use "user" instead of "users". :-) i am correct in doing so? anyways, doing it now. :-)
[19:35] <uxley> heril: its kubuntu, and I dont have those settings :(
[19:35] <genii> kristian87: That should be fine
[19:36] <heril> I don't know where something like that might exist on kde, been a long time
[19:36] <heril> but there should be something like that
[19:36] <kristian87> genii : ok, going ahead with it now, ill let you know if it works out for me. :-)
[19:36] <uxley> its the new kde4, and I cant find any information about this online!
[19:37] <uxley> heril: I agree :)
[19:37] <AlabamaHit> I have a booting problem The grub loads. fine but linux don't boot. I know its something to do with the boot config, I had this fixed before...I thought I wrote it down but I guess I lost it.....Here is my problem. I have 2 hard drives. SATA and IDE. linux is on IDE. if I Unplug the SATA linux boots perfect. but if I plug in the SATA linux will not boot. The bois is right. I have checked that. there was something in the config
[19:37] <AlabamaHit> I had to change. man I feel dumb losing that piece of paper
[19:37] <uxley> I just figured I was overlooking something simple
[19:37] <leequarella> how do I install a binarie?
[19:37] <heril> its just a matter of finding it amongst the settings
[19:37] <uxley> alabamahit: what is the error it tells you?
[19:38] <heril> when my master volume is set at 50% and everything else I can set in alsamixer is maxed, the sound is muted? what could be causing this and how can it be fixed
[19:38] <uxley> heril: I know, but there really isnt any settings in KDE, and what I need to do is modify my xorg.conf file, yet the only one on the system is 0-length
[19:38] <heril> uxley: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[19:38] <heril> should generate one
[19:38] <AlabamaHit> uxley: i would have to reboot and write down...I don't rember...i know its just a black screen an word starting with an I in () do yo need me to do that and check?
[19:39] <uxley> heril: hmm, your issue is interesting
[19:39] <manish_> my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... plese help me with that
[19:39] <uxley> heril: the reconfigure just gives me super defaults, and doesnt detect any hardware!
[19:39] <manish_> AlabamaHit, my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... can you please help me with that
[19:40] <uxley> AlabamaHit: Yeah your situation sounds very strange if the response is anything but 'operating system not found'
[19:40] <uxley> Alabamahit: As long as your bios is set to not boot the sata, you should be okay
[19:41] <uxley> alabamahit: I have a setup just like what you are describing and I just had to change the bios around
[19:41] <AlabamaHit> uxley: I'll be right back. I will get message.....Yeah bios is right. Its set to boot IDE not sata.
[19:41] <uxley> otherwise, you need to get a boot partition on your 'first' drive, which is your sata..
[19:41] <uxley> hmm
[19:41] <uxley> heril: so your volume is muted?
[19:41] <heril> only when the master volume is below 50%
[19:43] <dee> Hello. Has anyone tried to compile the Ubuntu kernel? I've tried it but there are many drivers missing. For example no audio driver is selected. How can I exactly rebuild the Ubuntu kernel?
[19:43] <manish_> heril ,,,are you sure because i faced the same problem with my laptop but later realised that the speakers were such that they could not play so low volumes so try with some external speakers or ear phones
[19:43] <heril> manish_: I rarely use the standard speakers, it behaves the same with external speakers, internal speakers or ear phones
[19:44] <Satisfied> anybody here know how to set the transparency level on windows ?
[19:44] <uxley> dee: I would reccomend: http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way
[19:44] <manish_> heril is there some issue with the drivers...:
[19:44] <heril> well, it worked fine when I've had ubuntu installed before
[19:45] <kristian87> genii : so fstab can't read "~/"? - http://paste.ubuntu.com/87276/
[19:46] <genii> kristian87: fstab requires absolute pathnames
[19:46] <manish_> sorry to ask such stupid thing but have you checked the mute button on the volume control panel and the hardware mute button of your machine
[19:46] <Stavros> how can i start the vnc server from the command line? it doesn't start when i log in for some reasno
[19:47] <genii> kristian87: If you noticed in the example I gave earlier I did NOT put ~/wherever
[19:47] <uxley> Stavros: vncserver
[19:47] <kristian87> genii : ok, yeah, i saw your paste, i just thought you did it to show me. sorry about that. will edit. :-)
[19:47] <Stavros> uxley: command not found :/
[19:47] <joeb3_> Stavros, just type vncserver
[19:47] <Stavros> uxley: the odd thing is that it works if i launch screen sharing
[19:48] <uxley> which vnc server did you install?
[19:48] <Stavros> none, i use screen sharing
[19:48] <uxley> the full Xvnc ?
[19:48] <uxley> I dont know what screen sharing is referring to
[19:48] <uxley> I've always used tightvnc or realvnc
[19:48] <Stavros> uxley: it's a builtin vnc client
[19:48] <Stavros> uxley: i'll install tightvnc though, thanks
[19:48] <uxley> I would use that, it should get you going
[19:49] <wiking> i needed to change libxml2 package since it does not support multi-threading, so i've changed the configure's option in debian/rules and recompiled the package.... but i ended up having libxml2-udeb.. instead of libxml2.deb and because of this dpkg -i gives an error because i'm trying to overwrite something (/usr/lib/libxml2) that is created by libxml2. any idea how i could have libxml2 deb package instead of this udeb package? i'm using dpkg-buildpa
[19:49] <wiking> ckage -rfakeroot to create the package
[19:49] <Stavros> uxley: thanks
[19:49] <uxley> Stavros: most certainly
[19:50] <manish_> my sleep and hybernate got disfunctional a few days ago ... i want to bring it back to life on my laptop (Acer Aspire).... plese help me with that
[19:50] <Stavros> uxley: i still can't connect :/
[19:50] <xand_> I'm trying to run applications thru ssh that use the ibm850 encoding. I can normally do it via konsole, but not from linux terminal, or gnome-terminal. Can anyone help me out please ?
[19:50] <Stavros> oh it works now, thanks
[19:51] <kristian87> genii : now it doesn't recognize the uuid - http://paste.ubuntu.com/87280/ - any thoughts? (sorry for my newbieness)
[19:52] <Anza> hello, can anyone recommend a good guide to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.04 to the newest version?
[19:53] <fosco_> !upgrade > Anza
[19:53] <kristian87> !upgrade > kristian87
[19:53] <AlabamaHit> uxley: what is terminal command to change the menu.lst? I think I might have found the problem
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 HAve you posted your fstab and fidsk output somewhere
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> fdisk
[19:53] <dee> uxley: thx, i will take a look.
[19:53] <teethlikelions> any fuppes users?
[19:54] <heril> AlabamaHit: menu.lst is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:54] <teethlikelions> i'm trying to put fuppes in init.d and have it rescan my media authomatically
[19:54] <heril> you can edit it with any text editor with super user privlleges
[19:54] <teethlikelions> it's starting, but don't know how to make it rescan
[19:54] <AlabamaHit> heril: thats what terminal command i was wondering....
[19:55] <heril> simplest one you probably have installed, do sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:55] <mystamax> hello, whats the best way to find out if I'm running 64-bit flash or 32-bit w/ ndiswrapper?
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> AlabamaHit sudo nano path/file for one
[19:56] <AlabamaHit> Thanks :P heril, and Jack_Sparrow
[19:56] <fosco_> mylogic, uname -m
[19:56] <fosco_> i686 = 32bits
[19:56] <alsuren> in the run command (alt-f2) dialog box, I'm finding that it sometimes completes the word in the middle of me typing, so I end up typing "thunderbirderbird". Does anyone else have this problem?
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> fosco_ That wont tell him anything about flash will it
[19:56] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : yes i have posted them further up. anyways ill give you the links if you can help... /etc/fstab = http://paste.ubuntu.com/87284/ - fdisk -l = http://paste.ubuntu.com/87285/ - any thoughts?
[19:56] <fosco_> mystamax, oh, flash, if installed from repos is 32bits+nsplugin
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 which drive are you trying to mount
[19:57] <zben> uname -m sez i686 also in uname -a does this mean a deb i386 is inappropriate?
[19:57] <therealnanotube> alsuren: no... it does autocomplete, but if you keep typing, it should just overwrite its autocompletion. that's how it works for me.
[19:57] <heril> zben: its appropriate
[19:57] <Symmetria> hrm
[19:57] <heril> just not optimum
[19:57] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : sdb hdd, sdb1 partition
[19:57] <Symmetria> man I hate the problems I have with tcp windows on very very heavy utilization boxes
[19:57] <heril> zben: both are 32bit systems, just different instruction sets
[19:58] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : line 10 and 11 in fstab is made by me.
[19:58] <Symmetria> because all the operating systems can scale up automatically, and the default maximum to scale to is 3meg its instant death when you get 10k clients hitting a box
[19:58] <heril> i386 programs will run on i686 but not the other way arround
[19:58] <hwilde> Symmetria, you should use linux.
[19:58] <kordy> hello
[19:58] <zben> Any thought why install should say "Error: Wrong architecture i386"?
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 First question do you have Testing on your desktop?
[19:58] <kordy> any body help
[19:58] <Emme_NK> hi!
[19:59] <Symmetria> hwilde errrr what does that have to do with it?
[19:59] <kordy> hii
[19:59] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : yes.
[19:59] <axisys> how to convert a desktop to a server?
[19:59] <kordy> look im just new user with ubunu
[19:59] <Emme_NK> Can I blacklist a package in apt to prevent it from being installed?
[19:59] <heril> zben: what's line of processor do you have?
[19:59] <axisys> i dont want to re-install with a server cd now
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 So first off that path is wrong..
[19:59] <kordy> can anybody answer me
[19:59] <heril> axisys: install the servers you want manually
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 /home/kristian/TESTING  is not on the desktop
[20:00] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : um, sorry, i mean no! i mean it is located in my home dir.
[20:00] <cellofellow> !ask | kordy
[20:00] <joeb3_> kordy, ask your question
[20:00] <mystamax> fosco_: thx, I don't see it installed from the repositories, so I must of grabbed it from adobe's site. is there a reason why it wouldn't work in Firefox 3.1 beta2, but works in Firefox 3.04? I even copied the libflashplayer.so to the plugins directory for FF3.1beta2
[20:00] <zben> heril brand new Dell Mini 9 sez it is "Atom" WIkipedia Atom says is is both IA32 and IA64 wondered if kernel could be locked into one or the other (noob question from a noob...)
[20:00] <Las> How can I figure out which version of freeciv to download? I don;t understand the graphics options, thanks
[20:00] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : yes, the path is correct, i was wrong when i said it was located on the desktop. sorry.
[20:00] <axisys> heril: i have ubuntu 8.10
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 is it in /home/kriastan ?
[20:01] <axisys> heril: i just need to remove the pkgs to convert it to a server
[20:01] <axisys> heril: u probably misunderstood my question?!
[20:01] <axisys> heril: looking for a bundle pkg that will remove all the dependent pkgs
[20:01] <eloquito> hola
[20:02] <eloquito> hola
[20:02] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : um, no. /home/kristian/TESTING - /me goes looking for spelling mistakes. :o
[20:02] <heril> axisys: you want to disable the gui?
[20:02] <eloquito> hellow
[20:02] <eloquito> xD
[20:02] <ftornell> guys, just installed fedora 10 and found a default font called qub under appearance, but cant find the ttf file of it, wanna import it to my ubuntu installation on another computer, anyone know what file it is or what system/package it belongs to?
[20:03] <heril> ftornell: ask the feodra people where fonts are stored, then copy it to ~/.fonts/ in ubuntu
[20:03] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : i can't find any spelling mistakes.
[20:03] <pavanred> what is '&' used for in commands?
[20:03] <heril> pavanred: runs the command in the background
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 Can you do a few commands for me from terminal
[20:04] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : your wish is my command! :-P
[20:04] <heril> so you can still use the terminal/console it was executed on
[20:04] <ftornell> heril, i have moved the entire fonts folder, but cant find the font on my ubuntu installation and the fedora ppl ignores my silly question...hehe
[20:04] <kordy> how to install vega card
[20:04] <joeb3_> pavanred, run the command in the background
[20:04] <kordy> pls help  how to install vega card
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 sudo mkdir /media/sparrow
[20:04] <heril> ftornell: have you updated the font cache?
[20:04] <zben> Ampersand at end of command line causes it to run asynchronouysly, that is, the shell does not wait for command to complete before processing another command - thjis is used to start daemons etc.
[20:04] <TheClam> Hi - running Hardy - when I connect my iPod up for the first time it auto-mounts, appears on the desktop and works fine, if I unmount it and later reconnect I have to restart gdm before it will automount again. Any ideas?
[20:04] <heril> (I'm not sure of the command for it myself)
[20:05] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : done!
[20:05] <cellofellow> kordy: sorry, vega card?
[20:05] <kevin_405> bazhang,  are u there
[20:05] <genii> kristian87: If you have not yet restarted the system since we did the entire partition and format of your drive, for the system underneath to know the drive's uuid it may require this
[20:05] <axisys> heril: and all pkgs like evolution / ff and stuff
[20:05] <pavanred> thank you
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sparrow
[20:06] <ftornell> heril, guess not but other fonts i copied showed up...when using locate qub on the fedora computer it doesnt display any result so it doesnt look like a ttf font...
[20:06] <heril> axisys: but not gnome/other de?
[20:06] <axisys> heril: yes gnome too
[20:06] <kristian87> genii : i was told - 20:31 < heril> sudo mount -a - would do the same trick! without reboot.
[20:06] <kordy> everybody
[20:06] <YaManicKill> I have a problem with nautilus. Basically, it is almost completely black, It will respond to what I click on, but it stays black and doesn't change. It works fine when loaded as root, so it isn't nautilus as a whole. Using thunar works fine, so it is just nautilus. I have purged and reinstalled nautilus so it isn't any of the settings. I have no idea what else to do. I have searched google and can't find anything. - here is 
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 Mounts in media should show up on your desktop unless the flag is removed from gconf-editor
[20:06] <kordy> whts more populare chat prog with ubuntu
[20:06] <pavanred> what is the number that is returned when i run a command with '&' - in the back ground as i just learnt?
[20:07] <joeb3_> pavanred, the process id. pid
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kordy We try to discourage polls.. but Xchat or irissi or kvirc or konversation
[20:07] <kordy> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[20:07] <zben> pavanred procdess number of the process running your background command
[20:07] <cellofellow> kordy: what are you using? Pidgin? Pidgin sucks on IRC, try Xchat.
[20:07] <pavanred> thanks you @joeb3
[20:07] <zben> process
[20:07] <johnny5> what's the difference between adduser and useradd
[20:07] <Emme_NK> kordy: Pidgin does IRC, there's also XChat and irssi
[20:07] <Emme_NK> and many more :)
[20:07] <heril> axisys: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:07] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : hold on one sec! i think i know what the problem is.
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 If you add shift to the ctrl-v paste command you can paste into a termianl
[20:08] <kevin_405> bazhang, all of sudden now my wifi works
[20:08] <Pici> kordy: Please don't do that.
[20:08] <kevin_405> bazhang, this is strange.. it is still using ndis
[20:08] <zben> one of adduser and useradd does more than the other - see the man pages
[20:08] <genii> kristian87: When uuid of disk is used, as I just said, the underlying system requires to know the uuid. Since we likely have not rebooted since partitioning and formatting the drive, it reports by blkid that it knows sdb1's uuid but then mount reports it does not. I suggest a resart. After partitioning a restart is prudent
[20:09] <Emme_NK> genii: maybe restarting/reloading udev?
[20:09] <Emme_NK> should create the proper /dev/disk/by-uuid symlinks
[20:09] <kevin_405> is it a good practice to install all the updates that show up ..
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> genii I was just trying to ger kristian87 to do the manual mount with a different mount point to see what was up
[20:09] <heril> kevin_405: generally
[20:09] <heril> kevin_405: but that depends on the type of system
[20:09] <heril> if it needs to be rock solid stable, perhaps not
[20:09] <diffred> kevin_405: it depends of your hardware
[20:10] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : nvm. it didn't work. mount it to /media/sparrow now.
[20:10] <kevin_405> i have ubuntu8.1 on a laptop
[20:10] <diffred> I don't do it on the macbook because I know it will mess up the keyboard every update
[20:10] <kevin_405> dell E1505
[20:10] <heril> security upgrades you should install
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian87 let me know if it shows up on your desktop
[20:10] <kristian87> genii : ok, i will reboot.
[20:10] <heril> kevin_405: how crucial is it that nothing breaks in your usage of that system
[20:10] <kristian87> Jack_Sparrow : um mind if i do a reboot first?
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> go ahead
[20:11] <johnny5> anyone know what the difference between adduser and useradd is?
[20:11] <zben> One of adduser and useradd does more work - see the man pages
[20:11] <Pici> johnny5: Their manpages explain the difference pretty well.
[20:11] <kevin_405> heril,  i am tired of wifi working on and off i would rather not have to figit.. it takes the fun out of using the system.. how do i kniw if the updates are secity or not
[20:11] <cellofellow> johnny5: adduser is higher level, debian script. useradd is traditional unix tool.
[20:12] <heril> kevin_405: by disabling non-security repositories
[20:12] <heril> and does it break when you update, or just in general
[20:13] <eseven73> do uuid's of usb external harddrives change when you unplug them or reboot?
[20:13] <AlabamaHit> Ok, here is better explaination of what is happening...Grub loads. I select linux to boot. splacsh screen(loading) goes. then a black screen comes up. Says Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init/    and i have a promt BusyBox promp (initamfs)................................This only happens when SATA is plugged in...also sata was not plugged in when i installed.
[20:13] <kordy_> hiiiiiiiiii
[20:14] <kordy_> how can install amsn
[20:14] <kordy_> ?????
[20:14] <Emme_NK> uuids are part of the filesystem, e.g. of ext3
[20:14] <Emme_NK> so they are normally persistent
[20:14] <cellofellow> kordy_: type apt://amsn in firefox.
[20:14] <nbeebo> is there a command to lock screen?
[20:14] <Emme_NK> I don't know how NTFS or FAT32 behave...
[20:14] <cellofellow> nbeebo: ctr+alt+l
[20:14] <kevin_405> heril, just in general.. it breaks .. no reason required for it to break or start working.. usually when i boot up it will work or it will fail .. this morning it was not working so i used the wired instead of wifi.. i shutdown and log on after 3 hrs and it is working..
[20:14] <nbeebo> cellofellow, im locking for a terminal command..
[20:14] <cellofellow> nbeebo: or a scriptable command?
[20:14] <heril> nbeebo: should be
[20:14] <heril> oh
[20:14] <heril> hmm
[20:14] <heril> I'm sure
[20:15] <FloodBot3> heril: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <heril> there is(doh, sorry for the breaks)
[20:15] <nbeebo> lol
[20:15] <heril> accidentally hit enter
[20:15] <kevin_405> heril, i was trying to use fwcutter instead of ndis and couldnt get it to work and my system is step up the same way as before
[20:15] <cellofellow> nbeebo: gnome-screensaver-command -l
[20:15] <eseven73> Emme_NK: ok ty, i cant seem to add my external USB harddrive to fstab, when i do i get errors up the kazoo, so what i did was made a cron that auto mounts it to /media/external/ every reboot, i just hope the UUID doesnt change :(
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> heril Hopefully someone dosent accidentally hit "BOOT"
[20:15] <kevin_405> heril, it is like i am using a windows m/x
[20:15] <kevin_405> heril, it is like i am using a windows m/c
[20:15] <nbeebo> cellowfollow, woot thanks! :D
[20:16] <kristian_> Jack_Sparrow : ok! it works after a reboot. :-)
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> yea
[20:16] <kevin_405> heril,  my updates setting is securty and important interpid updates. is that good or i only leave the security one
[20:16] <kristian_> genii : thanks it works! :-D
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian_ sorry to come in late..  glad you got it
[20:16] <Emme_NK> eseven73: you can add it to the fstab with the option "noauto", so it won't be mounted automatically, but the mountpoint is set
[20:17] <heril> kevin_405: well, if upgrading doesn't break it, updates in general should be fine, and beneficial if anything for your wifi card comes along in any general updates
[20:17] <Emme_NK> or you could write an udev rule that automatically mounts it to your favourite mountpoint...
[20:17] <psilocyde> hey folks, anyone have any experience with menumaker?
[20:17] <kordy_> how join domain?????????????????????????
[20:17] <kristian_> massive thanks to the following: genii - heril - Jack_Sparrow
[20:17] <kristian_> Jack_Sparrow : no worries! thanks! :-)
[20:17] <kevin_405> i see...
[20:17] <kristian_> !log
[20:17] <kordy_> how join domain????????????????????????
[20:17] <kordy_> how join domain????????????????????????
[20:17] <eseven73> Emme_NK: well its a backup drive so it needs to be auto mounted to the /media/external/ every boot, else my backup scripts from Unison and Rsync will fail
[20:17] <LjL> kordy_: stop spamming.
[20:18] <Slart> kordy_: please.. once is enough
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> kordy_ Stop that please
[20:18] <kevin_405> heril, ok will leave as for a few days and see
[20:18] <cellofellow> kordy_: if I knew I'd tell you, but only if you asked intelligible questions. You mean a Windows Networking domain?
[20:18] <kordy_> sry
[20:18] <Emme_NK> eseven73: I have a similar setup with an USB disk... I mount it from my backup scripts
[20:18] <kordy_> yes
[20:18] <Emme_NK> they also warn me if it is not plugged in/powered up, so I turn it only on if I need it, to save power
[20:19] <zetharx> what program should i use for real time recording and encoding of audio from my mic
[20:19] <heril> zetharx: gui or cli?
[20:19] <LjL> zetharx: lots of choices, Audacity is one
[20:19] <AlabamaHit> Ok, here is better explaination of what is happening...Grub loads. I select linux to boot. splacsh screen(loading) goes. then a black screen comes up. Says Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init/    and i have a promt BusyBox promp (initamfs)................................This only happens when SATA is plugged in...also sata was not plugged in when i installed.
[20:19] <cellofellow> zetharx: I'd say Audacity, but if you want it straight to Ogg or MP3 maybe ffmpeg will do the trick somehow.
[20:20] <FAJALOU> hi just upgraded to ubuntu 8.10 and I imported my profile,,, but the profile is not set up how i want it to be.  What is happening that I do want to figure out, however is that i cannot get the animations add-on to take effect.  I had it set up so that when I close my programs, they 'burn' but i cannot ust that as an animation any more; even with the addon enabled.
[20:20] <cellofellow> (can arecord pipe the output to lame?)
[20:20] <GodfatherofEire> How would I go about "loading a driver module into the kernel"?
[20:20] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: sudo modprobe modulename
[20:21] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: thanks
[20:21] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: wait, what wants the module?
[20:21] <kristian_> genii : you were right, about the reboot. now the "sudo mount -a" command gives no errors. thanks very much! for earlier and now. :-) (you will be spammed in the future when i have a problem :-P)
[20:21] <Gumby> does anyone here know of any issues with the nvidia forcedeth driver and intrepid?  My network randomly stops working sometimes and only a reboot will bring it back
[20:21] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: Linux driver for RLT8185 Wireless driver
[20:22] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: is there a Linux driver for that? I use ndiswrapper.
[20:22] <genii> kristian_: Hehe ... you're welcome
[20:22]  * cellofellow hates rtl8185 chip :(
[20:22] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: yep, linux supported
[20:23] <GodfatherofEire> Cellofellow: I know the feeling
[20:23] <AlabamaHit> how can i view my partions in terminal? i think when i plug in my sata drive. its taking the name of the IDE, i thnk thats why its not booting.
[20:23] <amortvigil> GodfatherofEire: what is Eire?
[20:23] <cellofellow> Ireland
[20:23] <genii> AlabamaHit: sudo fdisk -l
[20:23] <GodfatherofEire> amorvigil: Irish Name for Ireland
[20:24] <amortvigil> GodfatherofEire: do you know iona?
[20:24] <danielbw> how do i compile a library for 32 bit if i am running 64bit?
[20:24] <GodfatherofEire> No, sadly
[20:24] <amortvigil> GodfatherofEire: its verry nice irisch music :)
[20:25] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:25] <cellofellow> danielbw: that's called cross-compiling. I don't know how to do it but that might give you some googling tips.
[20:25] <GodfatherofEire> amortvigil: ah, I might've heard it then, Just not by that name
[20:25] <rodri> hello
[20:25] <nbeebo> CAN there be a cli command for starting the gnome-menu? if so what?
[20:25] <danielbw> cellofellow, ok how can i tell which application installed a particular file?
[20:25] <herrP> Hi. Would someone here know what to do when I for an example set my desktop wallpaper as a certain image on my Backup HD and when I restart my computer, I have to open the Backup from the menus to see the desktop wallpaper? Do I need to automount it or something
[20:25] <cellofellow> danielbw: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[20:25] <AlabamaHit> hum...I cant seem to see my SATA dive on the list when i type sudo fdisk -l
[20:28] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: so, which modules should I load into the kernel?
[20:28] <AlabamaHit> It's just wierd when I have my SATA plugged in the computer wont boot.....GRUB loads fine but past that just a black screen saying Target filesystem dosent have /sbin/init/ But if I unplug the SATA it boots Perfect.
[20:28] <ismie> hi
[20:29] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: um, I think it's rtl8180 but I'm not sure that one exists (that's why I use ndiswrapper).
[20:29] <zben> Q2 from newby: ssh hangs up after asking for my password.  Any known problem?
[20:29] <Slart> AlabamaHit: it isn't because your drives are renumbered when you connect the sata drive?
[20:29] <AlabamaHit> Slart: it might be......I have no idea how to fix taht though...
[20:29] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: you check the realtek main site?
[20:30] <Slart> AlabamaHit: you have to change the locations you want to boot from in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <Slart> !grub | AlabamaHit
[20:30] <cellofellow> you installing drivers from the vendors website? ooooh, that's not fun.
[20:31] <AlabamaHit> Slart: i don't have windows installed, and i know how to change that menu.lst but i have no idea what to change it to......sudo fdisk -l is not listing my drives
[20:31] <AlabamaHit> Slart: i plugged in the SATA but its not on list so i don't know what to change to.
[20:31] <zxcvbs> hi does anyone knows about ps2 keyboards?
[20:32] <axisys> heril: i ran that
[20:32] <heril> and?
[20:32] <axisys> heril: i already removed the ubuntu-desktop earlier
[20:32] <heril> zxcvbs: yes, I know about them, why don't you just ask the question?
[20:32] <axisys> heril: so autoremove did not remove anything else
[20:32] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: I'd be wary of that driver, as it says it's for 2.6.22 and Intrepid has 2.6.27.
[20:32] <Slart> AlabamaHit: it isn't shown in gparted or anything?
[20:33] <heril> axisys: and graphical programs are still installed?
[20:33] <axisys> heril: but apt-get upgrade shows tons of app including gnome, firefox.. blah
[20:33] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: it's a year old, which iirc was when I quit on that driver as it would cause random kernel panics and didn't work with WEP/WPA.
[20:33] <axisys> heril: i did not expect those app to show up in upgrade request
[20:34] <GodfatherofEire> cellofellow: what was a year old? the linux driver?
[20:34] <littlepinkdot> How can I background "sleep" in a bash script?
[20:34] <cellofellow> GodfatherofEire: on the realtek website, the rtl8185l driver was last updated just under a year ago, last december.
[20:35] <AJC_Z0> In gnome, where do I go to rename workspaces (Desk 1, Desk 2, etc.) when using compiz? I've looked around, read the help and searching the web but found nothing but questions (e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=854067 )
[20:35] <zorglu_> q. what is the default gnome irc client ?
[20:35] <zben> littlepinkdot: there is a sleep command (see manual).  Run script with ampersand at end of command to run it in background.
[20:38] <Slart> zorglu_: I don't know if there is an official one.. xchat-gnome seems to be popular together with plain xchat
[20:38] <ianm_> xvinfo / mplayer output: http://pastebin.com/m9cfad64   xvideo looks available but mplayer can't use it ?
[20:38] <zorglu_> Slart: ok thanks i will try
[20:38] <garnol> Hi people, i got a problem with my soundcard. When i use rhytmbox and want to run skype afterwards it always tells me that there is a problem with the sound playback. What can i do?
[20:39] <heril> axisys: perhaps using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde can help?
[20:39] <ianm_> (without compiz or anything fancy)
[20:39] <J2000_ca> I'm getting ALERT! /dev/mapper/computername-root does not exist when I boot up. I tired an older kernel but has the same problem.
[20:40] <axisys> heril: hehe.. last resort i guess :) .. thnx for the link
[20:40] <garnol> how can i make sure that my laptop supports hardware mixing?
[20:40] <garnol> i got some issues with skype :(
[20:42] <cdavis> I am trying to install flash for intrepid and get: md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[20:42] <cdavis> Is anyone else getting this?
[20:42] <zben> Checksum mismatch generally says the binary was corrupted somewhere along the way
[20:43] <zben> Can you try to get from another source or get a second copy and cmp them?
[20:43] <cdavis> I downloaded a couple of times. that tar.gz comes straight from adobe via wget
[20:44] <Ward1983> anyone know how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system made by ubootin?
[20:44] <zben> Dunno maybe contact adobe hostmaster andcomplain?
[20:44] <Ward1983> unetbootin that is
[20:45] <axisys> how do I setup a persistent reverse proxy?
[20:45] <axisys> how do I setup a persistent reverse ssh proxy?
[20:46] <dee> uxley: I have read the kernel-tutorial now but there is still the question how to build a kernel with the same modules as in my current hardy-kernel.
[20:47] <systm> how do i set /etc/fstab to mount my G1's SD card dynamically, based on something other then its /dev/
[20:47] <garnol> can anybody tell me, how i can get hardware mixing?
[20:49] <mib_q8i6hm> hi can someone please help me do a few things with ubuntu, I need to adjust the contrast on linux, and my update manager keeps saying it can't load and there is a red circle with a line through it
[20:49] <Ward1983> anyone know how i can do kernel updates on my persistent live system made by unetbootin?
[20:49] <dee> systm: Do you have the UUID of the partition on it? Then you can add it to fstab with it.
[20:49] <zben> dee: I think kernel gen leaves a file with the gen options in it somewhere, but I don
[20:49] <elektrix> hola
[20:49] <elektrix> hola
[20:49] <elektrix> hellow
[20:49] <FloodBot1> elektrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <FloodBot2> elektrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <FloodBot3> elektrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <elektrix> hellow
[20:49] <CarlFK> how can I apt-get install all the deps for a package, but not the package?
[20:49] <dennda> ;D
[20:49] <zben> dee: I think kernel gen leaves a file somewhere with the gen params in it, but I don
[20:49] <Ward1983> lol the floodbots flood :p
[20:50] <CarlFK> kinda like 'apt-get install foo; apt-get remove foo'
[20:50] <elektrix> hellow
[20:50] <dee> zben: I habe copied the kernel-option from the old kernel. Unfortunately all audio drivers are missing fro example.
[20:50] <filthpig> Ward1983: that's why they're called FLOODbots :P
[20:50] <zben> dee: I think kernel gen leaves a file somewhere with the gen params in it, but I don't remember what the filename is
[20:50] <Ward1983> lol filthpig
[20:50] <mib_q8i6hm> hi can someone please help me do a few things with ubuntu, I need to adjust the contrast on linux, and my update manager keeps saying it can't load and there is a red circle with a line through it
[20:50] <dee> CarlFK: Take a look at apt-depends
[20:51] <mib_q8i6hm> also there is a bug with ubuntu where it adds ubuntu (and the ubuntu recovery thing) twice to grub
[20:51] <systm> dee: how do i find the UUID?
[20:51] <heril> bug? you mean the different kernel verions?
[20:51] <dee> CarlFK: sorry, I mean apt-rdepends
[20:51] <mib_q8i6hm> hi can someone please help me do a few things with ubuntu, I need to adjust the contrast on linux, and my update manager keeps saying it can't load and there is a red circle with a line through it
[20:52] <zben> sorry about flood: hitting return when I wanted to hit apostrophe (new and small kbd on this subnotebook)
[20:52] <CarlFK> dee - thanks - was about to go googleing :)
[20:52] <ignis> hi guys, I can't get my wusb11 v2.6 to work with intrepid, the kernel spits an "Oops" error...
[20:52] <dee> systm: try "sudo blkid".
[20:54] <systm> dee: question two, when it is first entered via USB, it isnt able to be mounted, because of the way android works, you have to tell it to, will it wait for it?
[20:54] <IrishDavid> how can i force a driver to load on startup?
[20:55] <genii> IrishDavid: /etc/modules
[20:55] <CarlFK> IrishDavid: driver or module?  /etc/modules for the 2nd
[20:55] <onetinsoldier> s-corp: you might try #ubuntu-kernel
[20:55] <s-corp> onesojourner_, thanks
[20:55] <zben> There is a file somewhere in the startup stuff where you can name modules to be loaded at startup
[20:55] <garnol> Hey when i want to remove pulseaudio but ubuntu wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" What should i do?
[20:55] <s-corp> onetinsoldier, *thanks :)
[20:55] <IrishDavid> well I have to manually do sudo modprobe gspca at the minute
[20:55] <mlu1109> guys, I accidently changed my screen resolution to something my monitor couldn't handle through gnome and now I can't switch it back because for some reason there's nothing about resolutions in xorg.conf
[20:55] <mlu1109> now what?
[20:55] <onetinsoldier> s-corp: you're welcome..good luck
[20:56] <ianm_> garnol: I've been told this is ok
[20:56] <garnol> ok, i just hit "y"
[20:56] <IrishDavid> genii: I normally do sudo modprobe gspca so I'm guessing adding to /etc/modules should do the trick
[20:56] <dee> systm: Sorry, I don't know. I think this is something Android-specific.
[20:57] <heril> ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[20:57] <FFEMTcJ> I am trying to setup synergy to run automatically on my systems.. I'm following the howto at help.ubuntu.com and it's listing a whole bunch of things to do to get it to start automatically... Am I understanding it correctly that I can just add the line synergys --config synergy.conf to "Sessions" on the server computer? How about on the client computer? is it that easy too?
[20:57] <fantomas> wow 1471 ников!
[20:57] <heril> it doesn't actually remove anything
[20:57] <systm> dee well either way the files arent showing up in nautilus
[20:57] <zod21> what da fukkz up evrbody
[20:58] <dee> could you manually mount it? I mean is the device okay?
[20:58] <genii> IrishDavid: Yes, if you use modprobe for it then /etc/modules
[20:58] <fantomas> Well, I'm having problems with play (from sox) - it can't play even simple WAV files.
[20:58] <IrishDavid> genii: thanks
[20:58] <fantomas> $ play /usr/share/sounds/info.wav
[20:58] <dee> systm: And have you tried the UUID in /etc/fstab? Any error messages or warning?
[20:58] <fantomas> play soxio: Failed reading `/usr/share/sounds/info.wav': unknown file type `auto'
[20:58] <fantomas> Any ideas why this happens? 8.04 here
[20:58] <mlu1109> how do I change my resolution using terminal?
[20:59] <zod21> hey how do you force mount a portable hard disk, when i pull my simple tech from my windows system without unmounting it properly it wont mount in linux, but the force mount function doesnt work as far as i know, how do i do it
[20:59] <genii> IrishDavid: Welcome
[20:59] <DIFH-iceroot> mlu1109: xrandr --help
[20:59] <gaminggeek> Hi I'm trying to install the 64 bit version of ubuntu but the problem is when I try and start the live CD it get so far and then stops and black screens
[21:00] <DIFH-iceroot> gaminggeek: you need the 64bit version? often this is a problem because of bad drivers
[21:00] <J2000_ca> ﻿I'm getting "ALERT! /dev/mapper/computername-root" does not exist when I boot up. I tried an older kernel but has the same problem. It drops me to an ash shell and I poked around for a while. I think the problem is there is no lvm in the image is there any way to add it in?
[21:00] <dee> gaminggeek: did you try out the alternate cd?
[21:00] <gaminggeek> DIFH-iceroot: indeed I do need the 64 bit version
[21:00] <gaminggeek> dee: nope
[21:01] <fantomas> Console player play doesn't work on my Ubuntu 8.04. Can anybody confirm this?
[21:01] <dee> gaminggeek: so try it. :)
[21:01] <gaminggeek> dee but will the work when I have the install running?
[21:02] <dazjorz> Hmm
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> gaminggeek: it's a text based installer, rather thann graphical environment
[21:02] <|unjustice|> does anyone know if Daemon Tools can run through wine? Or on ubuntu in general?
[21:02] <dazjorz> My gnome-terminal sets its character encoding to ANSI-something always, can I force it to set it to utf8 automatically? (also, it crashes when I remove ANSI-... while UTF8 is selected, is that a known bug?)
[21:03] <gaminggeek> onetinsoldier: yea thats fine but what about when the install is finished and I need to boot my computer?
[21:03] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: you don't need to - you can mount iso's through loop :)
[21:03] <erUSUL> !appdb | |unjustice|
[21:03] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: mount -o loop file.iso /something
[21:03] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: does not work
[21:03] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: how does it not work?
[21:03] <dazjorz> because it does work, it works just fine
[21:03] <erUSUL> !iso > |unjustice|
[21:03] <ianm_> why would xvinfo say "number of ports: 1 ... port base: 85" then mplayer say "[VO_XV] Could not grab port 85." (nothing else is using it) in 8.04
[21:03] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: tried, and got an install, but the executable requires a disc
[21:03] <dazjorz> ianm_: are you running mplayer as root?
[21:03] <woody86> Is ubuntu more resource-heavy than XP??
[21:04] <dazjorz> ianm_: you need to run programs as root to bind < port 1024
[21:04] <dazjorz> woody86: generally it's not.
[21:04] <dazjorz> woody86: but it depends on the specific installation of both XP and Ubuntu.
[21:04] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: with the .iso mounted I cannot run the game...found a patch that runs it, but requires daemon tools
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> gaminggeek: hard to say what will happen then. it does try to automatically go into the graphical environment(x-windows). one sec here...
[21:04] <dee> gaminggeek: I do not know if it will work. I suppose you must try it. :(
[21:04] <ianm_> dazjorz: this is XVideo port not an Ethernet port :D
[21:04] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: running Daemon Tools in WIne will not work, as it requires a kernel driver which only works on Windows
[21:04] <woody86> dazjorz, thanks
[21:05] <heril> both my XP and ubuntu setup are light
[21:05] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: but - you can configure wine to set your disc as just another drive using winecfg
[21:05] <dee> gaminggeek: often the Live-CD has problems that a installed version doesn't have.
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> gaminggeek: even with the live cd you have now.. when you get the black screen, have you tried doing...  Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[21:05] <dee> gaminggeek: otherwise you can try some boot-options like vga-settings.
[21:05] <heril> what do you need daemon tools for on ubuntu?
[21:05] <dazjorz> ianm_: oh :P don't know then, sorry
[21:06] <dazjorz> ianm_: are you sure XVideo does not work over TCP or UDP?
[21:06] <TuxWork> hey guys, quick question. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 on an acer laptop, every time I use APT related functions, the laptop freezes shortly thereafter
[21:06] <BULLE>  is there some simple gui for setting up an internet connection via blutooth and a phone ?
[21:06] <TuxWork> it's a brand new laptop
[21:06] <TuxWork> and windows runs fine on it
[21:06] <ianm_> dazjorz: yes.  the whole point is that it's faster...
[21:06] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: okay...so I add the executable as an application in wine config, or I add cdrom0 as a library while it is mounted?
[21:07] <dazjorz> ianm_: because it seems to be X11-related and X11 is using TCP/UDP
[21:07] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: nono, when you mount the ISO to e.g. /media/iso, you can add /media/iso as another Windows drive
[21:07] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: I don't have winecfg here atm, but there's an option for creating "virtual" drive mappings
[21:07] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: okay, I will try it
[21:07] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: also, if the game is copy protected, it may be impossible to install it
[21:07] <Neff> hello does anyone have any information about using old ATI based notebooks with 8.10 and the IDE interface not working for HDDs?
[21:08] <Neff> my notebook uses a ALi southbridge
[21:08] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: nah, I installed
[21:08] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: just trying to run w/o disc ;)
[21:08] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: in that case, you will have to contact the game creator, search the Internet, use something like CrossOver Games or Cedega (which are commercial)
[21:08] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: ...or use a crack.
[21:08] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: ok :)
[21:08] <heril> !rules
[21:08] <Neff> it shows an  error while loading, something about the IDE "freezing"
[21:08] <wiehan> how can I get the UUID of a raid: linear "device"/"partition" with mdadm - I've been reading the manual for about half an hour and I don't have a clue!
[21:09] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: I did, but the cedega version is whacky and it is not in the repositories, anyone have a link?
[21:09] <wiehan> the device is /dev/md0
[21:09] <D3RGPS31> Is there a way to undelete files in an EXT3 partition
[21:09] <heril> cracking it, while it may be legitimate, can be illegal
[21:09] <onetinsoldier> D3RGPS31: no
[21:09] <systm> dee how do i check the fstab for warnings, its mounting, and a can see them in terminal, when i ls
[21:09] <heril> thus not allowed in #ubuntu
[21:09] <ianm_> heril: civil disobedience? :)
[21:09] <dee> systm: couldn't you just remount it with "sudo mount -a"?
[21:10] <Neff> does anyone know a failsafe way to start an install with a parameter at the boot screen?
[21:10] <dee> (without sudo on Android I suppose. ;))
[21:10] <kane_> hi, how can I set the default audio player to be some app and video player to be smplayer?
[21:10] <Talirk81> OCfs2 is causing kernel panics when i try to shutdown or restart my machines. How can i  log the panic information to  a file so I can debug why its occuring.
[21:10] <heril> ianm_: the #ubuntu rules are the rules, and unlike the real world, no one will be sad for using IRC equivalent of lethal force
[21:10] <wiehan> does anyone have solid knowledge of linux software RAID and or MDADM
[21:10] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: cedega is commercial, it's paid
[21:10] <|unjustice|> that is what I thought
[21:10] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: it's not in the repositories
[21:10] <|unjustice|> the only cracks I can find require daemon tools
[21:10] <|unjustice|> woe is me
[21:10] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: no they don't :)
[21:10] <ianm_> heril: is that unlike the real world?  you haven't been paying attention ;)
[21:11] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: no crack ever requires daemon tools.
[21:11] <heril> ianm_: believe it or not, if I use lethal force, I can be punished
[21:11] <heril> on IRC however...
[21:11] <dazjorz> |unjustice|: though, you will have to find out yourself.
[21:12] <dazjorz> I'm not going to help you crack a game, that's outside of this channels scope.
[21:12] <wiehan> how can I get the UUID of /dev/md0 which is RAID:linear
[21:12] <help_> guys, I can't access my desktop because it uses an resolution that doesn't work with my screen
[21:12] <help_> I made a new user account and now I'm on this one, so what should I do to change the resolution for my other user account?
[21:13] <virgo1143> alt f2 kicker
[21:13] <|unjustice|> dazjorz: understood...thanks anyway
[21:13] <virgo1143> hey everybody :)
[21:13] <Guest8130> hi evan
[21:13] <Guest8130> ratzan
[21:13] <help_> how can my whole desktop get screwed by this small incident?!
[21:14] <help_> people please, how does one change resolution without using that stupid resolution manager
[21:14] <dazjorz> wiehan: IIRC, there's a tool for that, but I've never known how to do it exactly either
[21:14] <heril> help_: welcome to the world of control?
[21:14] <dazjorz> wiehan: try `uuid`
[21:14] <n8tuser> help_-> at boot, try to use  vga=791  as grub parameter
[21:14] <help_> sigh.. will I have to format because of this?
[21:15] <heril> help_: you never *have* to format
[21:15] <help_> well obviously since there's no way to change resolution
[21:15] <sagredo> hi friends. can anyone tell me a cli interface for the default vpn access
[21:15] <dazjorz> help_: there is.
[21:15] <dazjorz> help_: what did you do to your old account?
[21:16] <help_> I accidently used that stupid screen resolution control and put on a screen resolution that my monitor doesn't support
[21:16] <wiehan> dazjorz: nope, thanks, just tried that, that only gives the uuid for the currently mounted partitions, and sicne my RAID /dev/md0 doesn't even have a file system yet, I can't mount it! PLEAS man, help me ou
[21:16] <heril> help_: have you tried logging into that account again?
[21:16] <n8tuser> help_-> at boot, try to use  vga=791  as grub parameter  <[21:16] <help_> heril yes, only fale safe terminal works
[21:16] <help_> *fail, sorry
[21:16] <Alpert> If anyone can query me to help me, that;d be great. I have a few problems and I dont want to take up all the room in the channel
[21:17] <n8tuser> Alpert-> the floor is yours, you have to learn to share the knowhow with others
[21:17] <Alpert> ok
[21:17] <dazjorz> wiehan: you can!
[21:17] <Alpert> so, I  have a few things
[21:17] <dazjorz> wiehan: just use /dev/md0 instead of the uuid
[21:17] <dazjorz> wiehan: is /dev/md0 a partition or a volume?
[21:18] <help_> n8tuser, will that do it?
[21:18] <heril> help_: have you taken a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/50317
[21:18] <phreck> how do i add a program/sccipt to my home path so i can run it from the terminal, without going into the folder where it exists
[21:18] <n8tuser> help_-> possibly, you can also try hitting ctrl+alt+ +  on numpad
[21:18] <wiehan> dazjorz: Well, I don't know how to put it: I'm in the process of creating a RAID: linear (volume/partition - not sure what the difference is), and it isn't mounted yet... please elaborate
[21:18] <heril> phreck: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-43923.html
[21:19] <Alpert> first, in add/remove programs, I get this message for 95% of the applications I can add: "[program name] cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware or the vendor decided not to support your computer type"
[21:19] <help_> n8tuser, what does that do?
[21:19] <OxDeadC0de> phreck: if you know the location where it is, try ln --help to make links to your home dir
[21:19] <onetinsoldier> phreck: ln -sv /path_to_script /usr/local/bin
[21:19] <n8tuser> help_-> to choose different resolutions, press those key over and over, but wait a few sec to take effect
[21:19] <dazjorz> wiehan: I'm sorry - volume == partition, I meant partition or drive or something like that, I'll just assume md0 is a partition
[21:20] <dazjorz> wiehan: so first of all, what filesystem do you want it to be?
[21:20] <jamesclayden0127> i have my a user for me set up perfectly but if i try and add another user trying to replicate all my settings all i et is a blank white screen. the alt+ctrl+f1 comand still works to get me out. what am i doing wrong
[21:20] <n8tuser> Alpert-> are you running 64bit?
[21:20] <wiehan> dazjorz: ok, sorry - I'm not real good with terminology... but i need the UUID... Oh, I think I'll settle for XFS
[21:20] <Alpert> I think so
[21:20] <sagredo> YO - I need a cli interface into Ubuntu's default Remote desktop preferences
[21:20] <sagredo> Who's got this
[21:20] <sagredo> hook this up
[21:20] <ikonia> sagredo: what do you mean ?
[21:20] <n8tuser> !who
[21:21] <Alpert> I have a dell insipron B130
[21:21] <help_> sigh, I'll do a format I think.. it's not an refresh rate issue
[21:21] <ikonia> sagredo: remote desktop is graphical, there is no command line tool
[21:21] <sagredo> ikonia: :(
[21:21] <dazjorz> wiehan: what do you need the uuid for?
[21:21] <help_> and there's nothing about monitor resolutions in xorg.conf
[21:21] <ikonia> sagredo: you can access it over ssh, but that is a shell not a desktop
[21:21] <schmrz> ikonia: he probably wants to know how to config and setup remote desktop from console
[21:21] <help_> I tried the reconfigure thing, didn't work
[21:21] <wiehan> dazjorz: to do this: ARRAY /dev/md0 level=linear num-devices=2 UUID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[21:21] <sagredo> ikonia: I'm in it ssh right now chatting to you
[21:22] <eax> Hi :) Am I the only one having problems with the Gnome GUI in 8.10? It really acts weird :S (hard to describe but it turns white and the graphic glitches)
[21:22] <heril> help_: check for configuration files in your home directory
[21:22] <dazjorz> wiehan: I think that *sets* the UUID
[21:22] <dazjorz> doesn't it?
[21:22] <Alpert> n8tner: Dell inspiron B130
[21:22] <Barrett666_> uh
[21:23] <help_> maybe for next version they should add a countdown timer about if you want to keep that resolution or not so people don't bump into these kinds of problems :)
[21:23] <Barrett666_> this is a very little channel
[21:23] <Barrett666_> lol
[21:23] <wiehan> dazjorz: no, ok, let me spill the entire can of beans: I'm folowing this tutorial to set up a RAID:lin to span a partition accross 2 drives, and the guy skips a step: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=660021
[21:23] <n8tuser> help_-> did you do what i asked you ?
[21:23] <jack_> is this the general help room for ubuntu?
[21:23] <OxDeadC0de> sagredo: If you use ssh, you can install a local xorg server on the computer you're sshing from (xorg on linux, xming on windows), then use your ssh client to route xorg stuff over ssh, then run xorg programs from ssh without xorg running on the remote machine
[21:23] <help_> n8tuser, the vga=791?
[21:23] <schmrz> jack_: yes
[21:24] <jack_> thank you
[21:24] <soho> somebody here using twinkle?
[21:24] <n8tuser> help_-> or the other ctrl+alt+  +  on the numpad?
[21:24] <help_> I'll check it out, hope it works, thank you guys'!
[21:24] <ikonia> sagredo: what do you mean
[21:24] <ikonia> sorry
[21:24] <ikonia> typo
[21:24] <fujin_> ahoj
[21:24] <onetinsoldier> phreck: ln -sv /path_to_script/script_name /usr/local/bin   ...to do it from just one file.  if you're going to have a bunch of scripts or executable in the directory where this script is, then do   ln -sv /path_to_script_dir /usrlocal/bin  ..or you can add the path of this dir to you environment, like to link that heril gave you shows
[21:24] <Saga_> Somebody here using Ubuntu Encrypted LVM?  I have laptop on that -- Is it possible to resize partition to make a new encrypted partition?
[21:24] <dazjorz> wiehan: I see now
[21:25] <dazjorz> wiehan: and mdadm has no --scan?
[21:25] <Alpert> This problem consequently wont let me download ndisgtk (windows wireless drivers)
[21:25] <jamesclayden0127> i have my a user for me set up perfectly but if i try and add another user trying to replicate all my settings all i get after logging on with the new uses is a blank white screen. the alt+ctrl+f1 comman still works to get me out. what am i doing wrong
[21:25] <wiehan> dazjorz: he just says use the --scan command... I've been trying that for ages - and can't figure out how so that it will print the uuid of /dev/md0
[21:25] <schmrz> Alpert: What problem?
[21:25] <dazjorz> wiehan: note that that isn't a tutorial or howto, he's asking for help ;)
[21:26] <Alpert> schmrz: in add/remove programs, I get this message for 95% of the applications I can add: "[program name] cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware or the vendor decided not to support your computer type"
[21:26] <patrick-1> anyone: how do i change the default display in xorg.conf with an ATI gfx in dualhead mode ?
[21:26] <dazjorz> wiehan: /usr/share/mdadm/checkarray or so?
[21:26] <wida> ccczzesc
[21:26] <patrick-1> so that the logon screen is on the "other" display
[21:27] <HOMEMADEJAM> I have a blog that I have recently started... just has a few Ubuntu tips & tricks on it :) If anyone wants to check it out, please do :D  http://www.jamsubuntu.blogspot.com
[21:27] <wiehan> dazjorz: I don't know how to use the --scan command correctly - mdadm is an extremly difficult piece of software; YES: I nottice he is asking for help, but in the next reply or so his question is solved easily - so I think this is good to follow, there isn't anice clear concise guid like this (and this isn't really neat) out threre
[21:27] <d_mitry> how to go about finding the audio driver?
[21:27] <ikonia> HOMEMADEJAM: please don't advertise your url's
[21:27] <AndreasMadrid> hi!  is there a way to find out, which have been the last packets that i have installed with synaptic?
[21:27] <HOMEMADEJAM> Oh okay.. sorry :) I wasn't spamming or anything...
[21:28] <LjL> AndreasMadrid: cat /var/log/dpkg.log (might add a | grep installed)
[21:28] <virgo1143> nice blog jam
[21:28]  * onetinsoldier wonders if phreck has passed out at his/her keyboard
[21:28] <HOMEMADEJAM> thanks
[21:28] <AndreasMadrid> Ljl thank you
[21:28] <ikonia> HOMEMADEJAM: not a problem, you may want to consider taking some of those tips that HELP users and putting it on the ubuntu community wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:29] <patrick-1> anyone: how do i change the default display in xorg.conf with an ATI gfx in dualhead mode ? i want the logon screen to be on the other display
[21:29] <HOMEMADEJAM> Oh cool, yeah.. I'll have to check that out
[21:29] <Beryllium> Hey, quick question: I'm connecting from Vista/Putty to a Ubuntu server ... and in vi, my number pad keys are putting in letters instead of numbers. Any idea how to fix this on the ubuntu side? Or is it a putty issue?
[21:29] <wiehan> dazjorz: nope: that last one didn't help either - because the array isn't yet fully active I think
[21:30] <simplexio> Beryllium: putty issue me thinks
[21:30] <simplexio> Beryllium: somehting to do terminal info .. i thik
[21:30] <heril> (jokingly) what is this number pad you speak of?
[21:30] <HOMEMADEJAM> I prefer to use vim then vi :)
[21:31] <ikonia> heril: if you know, why ask ?
[21:31] <ikonia> heril: don't waste peoples time
[21:31] <MetalliMyers> somebody change their nick
[21:31] <etyrnal> anyone know if Ubuntu 8+ will install on Del dimension 2350 celeron
[21:31] <MetalliMyers> I need to test something
[21:31] <ikonia> HOMEMADEJAM: vi is a symlink to vi on ubuntu
[21:31] <dazjorz> wiehan: I think you should man mdadm and search for --scan using /
[21:31] <HOMEMADEJAM> ...sorry? :S
[21:31] <ikonia> MetalliMyers: what do you want to test ?
[21:31] <heril> ikonia: you mean vi is a symlink to vim?
[21:31] <phreck> onetinsoldier, hah no i didnt pass out, had to step away from desk , read what you typed though, thanks
[21:31] <eax> Hi :) Am I the only one having problems with the Gnome GUI in 8.10? It really acts weird :S (hard to describe but it turns white and the graphic glitches)
[21:31] <ikonia> heril: yes
[21:31] <MetalliMyers> My irc client
[21:31] <ikonia> MetalliMyers: what about it? how will changing nick test anything,
[21:31] <MetalliMyers> I'm trying to get it to update in the user list
[21:31] <Beryllium> It works fine on the command line, it's only vi that it screws up in
[21:32] <ikonia> MetalliMyers: this is ubuntu support , not irc testing
[21:32] <dazjorz> etyrnal: why wouldn't it?
[21:32] <MetalliMyers> bah
[21:32] <MetalliMyers> fine
[21:32] <onetinsoldier> phreck: ok, roger that. you're welcome
[21:32] <wiehan> dazjorz: sadly: I did, that thing is more dificult to read than the combined works of shakespeare, whilst riding on a rollercoaster
[21:32] <Alpert> How can I download Windows Wireless Drivers (ndisgtk)? It wont work through add/remove programs, or terminal. It isn't on the list in Synaptics
[21:32] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[21:32]  * Cosmo gives ikonia :ikonia!n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give ikonia a test.
[21:32]  * basileus gives ikonia a boy scout
[21:32] <Beryllium> HOMEMADEJAM: While I tend to say "vi", it's just a symlink to "vim", as far as I know
[21:32] <Alpert> How can I download Windows Wireless Drivers (ndisgtk)? It wont work through add/remove programs, or terminal. It isn't on the list in Synaptics
[21:33] <Talirk81> does anyone know how i cant  cause ocfs kernel panics to  log  to  a file  messages and kern.log dont have any data on why it panics
[21:33] <dazjorz> wiehan: I suggest you find a different howto then ?
[21:33]  * d_mitry should've scanned the documentation first.
[21:33] <MetalliMyers> I guess I could change my own nick
[21:33] <dazjorz> wiehan: I don't know anything else, I haven't ever set up RAID - but I think you don't need the UUID
[21:33] <MetalliMyers_tes> yeah, it worked
[21:33] <MetalliMyers_tes> duh
[21:33] <dazjorz> wiehan: not the UUID "of /dev/md0" at least, that doesn't make all the sense in the world
[21:33] <wiehan> dazjorz: thanks for the help...
[21:34] <dazjorz> wiehan: once you figure it out, let me know, or create a wiki page at https://help.ubuntu.com/
[21:34] <dazjorz> wiehan: that would be great :)
[21:34] <blistov> ok, jesus.  has anyone noticed evolution crashing constantly after about 10 seconds of running after some updates about a week ago?
[21:34] <Minty95> hi all
[21:34] <dazjorz> wiehan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID <-- isn't this what you need by the way? :)
[21:35] <heril> blistov: evolution works fine for me
[21:35] <cdecarlo> is there an issue with the canadian repos?
[21:35] <blistov> I have ~250 people with evolution crashing.
[21:35] <ikonia> blistov: so why are you asking us if we've seen it ?
[21:35] <dazjorz> wiehan: it's not exactly what you need, but it may help.
[21:35] <blistov> cdecarlo: yes.  use rafal, or go american
[21:35] <cdecarlo> blistov: rafal?
[21:35] <Minty95> have installed ubuntu on my boys comp with dual boot, now when he tries rebooting into xp gets "starting up ...." and nothing else, any ideas please
[21:35] <blistov> ikonia: to find out if anyone has heard of a bug.
[21:36] <ikonia> blistov: you said you have 250 people with it, so you know people have heard of it
[21:36] <blistov> cdecarlo: mirror.rafal.  still pulls 1MB/s
[21:36] <Alpert> Will someone query me for help? I've asked 4 times in here, and I've been ignored.
[21:36] <dazjorz> wiehan: see also the Resources and Using mdadm section :)
[21:36] <ThistleWeb> Minty95, did you instal windows or linux first?
[21:36] <ikonia> Alpert: what's the problem
[21:36] <Alpert> first, in add/remove programs, I get this message for 95% of the applications I can add: "[program name] cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware or the vendor decided not to support your computer type"
[21:36] <blistov> ikonia: yea, they're all my 250 people.  i need to know if anyone has submitted a bug officially. I can't find one, but i can't imagine its just my company having this problem.
[21:36] <Alpert> Which leads me to not being able to download ndisgtk so I can get wireless
[21:37] <blistov> I expect everyone using groupwise is experiencing this, but still, no bug anywhere.
[21:37] <ikonia> blistov: submit the bug, you can always mark it as duplicate if you find one
[21:37] <Minty95> ThistleWeb, xp firts
[21:37] <Minty95> and then just installe ubuntu as usual
[21:37] <cdecarlo> blistov: we've been having issues with evolution and exchange lately
[21:37] <blistov> cdecarlo: what kind of issues?
[21:37] <ikonia> Alpert: please show me the output of uname -a
[21:37] <wiehan> dazjorz: thanks, was reading didn't see all your messages - I will follow the advice...
[21:37] <cdecarlo> blistov: for some reason it just seems to stop connecting, says that the account is offline
[21:38] <ThistleWeb> k, windows overwrites your bootloader, and "forgets" any non-windows OS it finds
[21:38] <flUSK> Hey i'm trying to open my firefox and it gives me : Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[21:38] <zetharx> fstab question: i have my vfat jump drive mounting with mount options  =  user,rw,async
[21:38] <zetharx> but the problem is that when it mounts on bootup, the directory in which it is set to mount gets reset to being owned by root such that i cannot write to the drive unless i manually change permissions.  how do i get it to belong to my user on mount?
[21:38] <flUSK> i tried uninstallijng it and installing it again same prob
[21:38] <ThistleWeb> look at the menu.list file
[21:38] <flUSK> restarted same prob
[21:38] <Alpert> ikonia: how do I do that?
[21:38] <ikonia> Alpert: open a terminal from the applications menu and type uname -a and paste the results in this windows
[21:39] <blistov> cdecarlo: different issue from what we've got.  I have ~250 clients who previously had no problem, have evolution crash after 10 seconds after connecting to groupwise.  Every time.
[21:39] <ThistleWeb> it may be that its not pointed at the correct place
[21:39] <HELP_m3> i kant even open firefox to look up problem
[21:39] <HELP_m3> !
[21:39] <HELP_m3> Hey i'm trying to open my firefox and it gives me : Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[21:39] <cdecarlo> blistov: I'm quickly losing faith with evolution
[21:40] <heril> HELP_m3: open a terminal and killall firefox
[21:40] <ThistleWeb> HELP_m3, you can see your firefox in your taskbar, from there you can kill it
[21:40] <ThistleWeb> or killall works too
[21:40] <onetinsoldier> HELP_m3 - in a terminal try this command..   killall firefox   ...that may not work, but try it first
[21:41] <wiehan> dazjorz: YOU ARE A LEGEND. YOU ARE AWESOME. I LOVE YOU. I WANT YOU BABIES - That worked.... now only to test it and probably run into more poblems, but what the heck - thanks
[21:41] <Alpert> ikonia: my terminal hasn't worked since I started
[21:41] <Alpert> its weirf
[21:41] <HELP_m3> i did!
[21:41] <ThistleWeb> I like to have xkill in the menu for an easy hit
[21:41] <jimcooncat> HELP_m3: I have to use "killall firefox-bin" on my machine
[21:41] <HELP_m3> it din't
[21:41] <dazjorz> wiehan: yay! :P
[21:41] <Alpert> Ikonia: when I type something in, I press enter, and nothing happens
[21:41] <ikonia> Alpert: what do you mean your terminal has not worked. Please be more specific
[21:41] <dazjorz> wiehan: that's one way to say thank you
[21:41] <ikonia> Alpert: such as
[21:41] <ikonia> Alpert: what are you typing
[21:41] <blistov> cdecarlo: well this is just poor.  I'm sure this is a major issue, and I cannot be the only one experiencing it, but I cannot figure out what is causing the crash, and no bug has been submitted apparently, though the problem has been evident for almost 2 weeks.
[21:41] <heril> HELP_m3: terminal command ps -e|grep firefox
[21:41] <Alpert> uname -a
[21:41] <blistov> Maybe I'm the only company using groupwise anymore?
[21:41] <ikonia> HELP_m3: if you reboot it will fix it, lets be quick and easy
[21:42] <Alpert> ikonia: even if I type anything like sudo-apt or something like that, nothing happens
[21:42] <ikonia> Alpert: thats not a command
[21:42] <heril> ikonia: why reboot when you can just restart X?
[21:42] <ikonia> Alpert: open a terminal and type "uname -a" and show me the output
[21:42] <ikonia> heril: may still be in the process list if it's hung
[21:42] <ikonia> heril: if it was still running I'd agree with you
[21:42] <Alpert> oh
[21:42] <HELP_m3> i did reboot
[21:42] <HELP_m3> same problem
[21:43] <HELP_m3> i uninstalled and installe
[21:43] <HELP_m3> same problem!
[21:43] <eax> Alpert: otherwise you can try pressing ctrl+alt+F1 to revert to normal you can press alt+f7
[21:43] <heril> ps -e|grep firefox
[21:43] <heril> does it give anything?
[21:43] <HELP_m3> heril i did same problem
[21:43] <heril> that command doesn't fix anything, just a diagnostic
[21:43] <HELP_m3> 6508 ?        00:00:01 firefox
[21:43] <heril> does it have any output
[21:43] <ikonia> HELP_m3: you can't have uninstalled and re-installed firefox as it's linked to the whole gome desktop
[21:43] <ikonia> heril: pid file ?
[21:43] <heril> sudo kill -9 6508
[21:43] <HELP_m3> ikonia i did
[21:44] <ikonia> HELP_m3: how it will complain that gnome desktop depends on it
[21:44] <ThistleWeb> didnt know firefox was so engrained
[21:44] <eax> Is there a way to remove header/footer in openoffice on the first page but not the rest?
[21:44] <ThistleWeb> i use it on xfce / openbox.....no gnome installed
[21:44] <HELP_m3> darn nothing =(
[21:44] <Hypnus9> Hi guys/girls. I have a a Canon MX700 Multifunction printer on my wireless network, and I am trying to install the drivers via wine. It says that I need to start my print spooler in order to install the software. How do I do that?
[21:45] <DRebellion> eax, ask in #openoffice.org
[21:45] <onetinsoldier> HELP_m3: try the ps -e | grep firefox again
[21:45] <bruenig> Hypnus9: guys
[21:45] <HELP_m3> but it was acting funny would enable the back foward refresh, or stop button
[21:45] <Hypnus9> ok.
[21:45] <HELP_m3> so i made new profile and fixed it
[21:45] <eax> DRebellion: Thanks :)
[21:45] <HELP_m3> then i closed ff and now this
[21:45] <HELP_m3> =(
[21:45] <Hypnus9> ! print spooler
[21:46] <HELP_m3> onesojourner_, nothing
[21:46] <Hypnus9> !cups
[21:46] <heril> HELP_m3: you know, for the purposes of looking up the problem online, you could install another browser
[21:46] <jimcooncat> Hypnus9: sounds like the Windows print spooler to me
[21:46] <onetinsoldier> HELP_m3: ok. good! try starting firefox now
[21:46] <HELP_m3> same problem
[21:46] <HELP_m3> !
[21:46] <Alpert> ikonia: Linux max-laptop 2.6.24-19 generic #1 SMP Wed Jum 18 14:43:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:46] <ikonia> Alpert: ok, so your running hardy 32bit
[21:47] <foolusion> while watching youtube videos my laptop will overheat and shutdown... this happens on windows also. My fan is working anyone have any suggestions?
[21:47] <ortsvorsteher> !downgrade
[21:47] <ikonia> Alpert: so in that same command line, type the following "sudo apt-get update" - what happens (don't paste just tell me)
[21:48] <eax> foolusion: You could try to use a vacuumcleaner on the fans.. Worked for me :)
[21:48] <heril> or just compressed air
[21:48] <eax> foolusion: Be careful though..
[21:48] <foolusion> with a vacuum?
[21:48] <jimcooncat> eax, foolusion, vaccuums make static
[21:48] <foolusion> oh
[21:48] <heril> foolusion: I don't suggest a vacuum
[21:48] <ThistleWeb> foolusion, do you have a lot of USB stuff attached?
[21:48] <eax> jimcooncat: Doesn't that depend on the vacuum?
[21:49] <heril> eax: its a risk with all
[21:49] <vico> buona sera!
[21:49] <Alpert> ikonia: it said resource temp. unavailabe. E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[21:49] <heril> also could buy a cooling pad
[21:49] <jimcooncat> eax, mostly depends on the brush or end on it. they make static-safe vaccuums for electronics
[21:49] <foolusion> if i unscrewed the fan would it be safer?
[21:49] <eax> Ohh okay..
[21:49] <heril> foolusion: just get some compressed air
[21:49] <Alpert> wait
[21:49] <Snowfire> hello, I need help
[21:49] <Alpert> it appears to be owrking
[21:50] <Alpert> but it stopped at 56% done
[21:50] <Snowfire> I cant get any sound on Ubuntu on my old desktop
[21:50] <ikonia> Alpert: close your other package manager
[21:50] <HOMEMADEJAM> You know the code name for Ubuntu 8.10... just wondering, how do you pronounce it? :P
[21:50] <corinth> I'm setting up a launcher for Wbar. What's the command I use if I want to open firefox to a specific url?
[21:50] <ThistleWeb> usb peripherals often take power from the pc itself, which can add up. Your power supply may be close to it's limit
[21:50] <foolusion> i dont have any usb attachments
[21:50] <durka> question about setting up xdmcp
[21:50] <JacaByte> Okay, I've got a problem with Ubuntu 8.04. For some reason, it can't send my MDD G4 PowerMac into sleep mode. It says it doesn't have the correct drivers. Any thoughts?
[21:50] <heril> HOMEMADEJAM: in-trep-id eye-bex ?
[21:50] <puffandstuff> hello
[21:50] <Alpert> ikonia: now it wont work again
[21:51] <durka> i edited /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom, and on the remote system I can connect to the xdmcp box, but i just get a black screen with the X cursor
[21:51] <HOMEMADEJAM> ahh, thanks :D
[21:51] <maleko> how do i create a 10MB dummy file?
[21:51] <vico> ???
[21:51] <ikonia> Alpert: what does it say
[21:51] <eax> maleko: Just something that fills 10mb?
[21:51] <maleko> yes
[21:51] <eax> can you code C++?
[21:51] <Alpert> it says E: unable to lock the list directory
[21:52] <maleko> eax: so..any idea?
[21:52] <Alpert> well, now its working again,
[21:52] <puffandstuff> is there a permanent way to tell cvs to use proxy please ?
[21:52] <Alpert> I forgot to close another manager
[21:52] <Slart> maleko: dd  with input from /dev/urandom.. blocks.. number of blocks
[21:52] <ikonia> Alpert: close it
[21:52] <Alpert> I did
[21:52] <Slart> maleko: I forget the exact syntax.. check man dd for more info
[21:52] <Alpert> the update appears to be working
[21:52] <durka> how about dd if=/dev/urandom of=~/test.garbage bs=10M
[21:52] <ortsvorsteher> maleko: try to cat an ascii file so often in a new file until its 10mb
[21:52] <zorglu_> maleko: use dd
[21:52] <Alpert> ikonia: so after the update, what do I do?
[21:52] <eax> maleko: Read slarts :)
[21:52] <Snowfire> I have no idea how to get sound working on Ubuntu
[21:52] <ikonia> Alpert: now lets try a test, "sudo apt-get install conky"
[21:53] <ortsvorsteher> Snowfire: is the sound device on board?
[21:53] <Snowfire> tried messing around with the sound preferences, I dont know what to do
[21:53] <blistov> maleko:  dd if=/dev/zero of=dummyfile bs=1024 count=10000
[21:53] <ortsvorsteher> !sound
[21:53] <Snowfire> the sound device is in there
[21:53] <Alpert> ikonia: its not done yet
[21:53] <blistov> maleko:  dd if=/dev/zero of=dummyfile bs=1024 count=10000
[21:53] <ikonia> Alpert: well, lets see when it is
[21:53] <Alpert> ok
[21:53] <ortsvorsteher> !sound | Snowfire
[21:53] <Snowfire> I put Ubuntu on my old gateway desktop
[21:53] <Alpert> ikonia: how long shouldd the update take?
[21:54] <ikonia> Alpert: depends how out of date you are
[21:54] <bucky1> .net
[21:54] <Snowfire> !sound
[21:54] <maleko> blistov: thanks
[21:54] <Alpert> I just installed yesterday
[21:54] <heril> Alpert: installed using?
[21:54] <jeancalvin> how can i find out my video card make, model, chip set id?
[21:54] <heril> because likely that means you are as out of date as possible
[21:54] <DIFH-iceroot> !wifi
[21:54] <blistov> maleko: np.
[21:55] <binarymutant> jeancalvin, lspci maybe
[21:56] <neztiti> hi guys - can some on help me with ATI 1250 card to work tvout with ubuntu 8.10 ???
[21:56] <ortsvorsteher> !tv
[21:57] <joachimATjku> does anyone have a solution to the "no sound bug" when using a tv pinnacle pro tv card
[21:57] <joachimATjku> i hear the sound using  arecord -D hw:1,0 -f S16_LE -c2 -r48000  | aplay
[21:57] <Lennon> hi all
[21:57] <joachimATjku> but its quite annoying to enter this everytime starting tvtime
[21:57] <jimcooncat> Lennon: please forgive us if we don't all say hi back
[21:57] <jabba> hello
[21:57] <Lennon> no problem :)
[21:58] <regeya> ooh may we jimcooncat?
[21:58] <jimcooncat> regeya: let's all pm him instead
[21:58] <jabba> is it somehow possible to provide an internet connection to my windows CE pocket PC with ubuntu? (connected via USB... already installed synce)
[21:58] <djiezes> that'd be fun 1446 hi's ;)
[21:58] <regeya> lol
[21:59] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, lspci | grep -i vga
[21:59] <Some_Person> Can someone help me? The ubuntu installer and GParted both cannot see the partitions on my drive. They both show a large, unallocated drive.
[21:59] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: ty
[21:59] <dsmith_> Some_Person: NEW DRIVE?
[21:59] <Some_Person> dsmith_: No
[21:59] <dsmith_> weird
[21:59] <c_korn> does Mark Shuttleworth really want to see desktop screenshots from _all_ ubuntu users?
[22:00] <Some_Person> d_smith: Nautilus (the file manager) sees them, and fdisk sees them
[22:00] <neztiti> ubottu: i mean driver like fglx
[22:00] <dsmith_> c_korn: say what
[22:00] <Alpert> ikonia: update just finished
[22:00] <dsmith_> Some_Person: I have never seen that before
[22:00] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: is there also a way to find out model, make, id, other info, etc about my 2 monitors?
[22:01] <JacaByte> Alright, I'm back.
[22:01] <Some_Person> dsmith_: GParted throws this error when run from a terminal: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[22:01] <JacaByte> !ask
[22:01] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, run the command dmesg
[22:01] <Alpert> ikonia: the install won't go anywhere from 0%. do I restart my computer?
[22:01] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, you may find it there
[22:01] <ikonia> Alpert: what command did you use
[22:01] <Lennon> funny bot
[22:02] <Alpert> sudo apt-get install conky
[22:02] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: so much info. don't know how to sort it out and find what i need.
[22:02] <ikonia> Alpert: ok, wait and lets see what happens
[22:02] <mrwes> re
[22:02] <djiezes> Some_Person: did you try gparted from a live cd?
[22:02] <JacaByte> Okay, does anybody know how to fix a Mirror Door Drive G4 so Ubuntu can put it into sleep mode? Right now it fails when it tries to do so.
[22:02] <Some_Person> djiezes: This is a live cd
[22:02] <Alpert> it's working!
[22:02] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, paste it at paste.ubuntu.com and post the link
[22:02] <Some_Person> djiezes: I am trying to install ubuntu
[22:03] <Alpert> ikonia: done
[22:03] <ikonia> Alpert: looks like it's working
[22:03] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all! Simple question: will OpenOffice be autoupdated to version 3 in Intrepid or do I need to install it manually??
[22:03] <Alpert> ikonia: how do I get to conky now
[22:03] <ikonia> type "conky"
[22:03] <djiezes> Some_Person: and the unalocated space is the full disk-space?
[22:03] <Lennon> manually
[22:04] <Some_Person> djiezes: Yes. But there should be no unallocated space
[22:04] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: what syntax is the best to use? bash? plain text?
[22:04] <NorthByNorthWest> Lennon: That was an answer for me? :)
[22:04] <Stavros> how can i have my computer autojoin a wireless network on bootup? currently it waits for me to log in
[22:04] <Alpert> type conky where?
[22:04] <Lennon> yep
[22:04] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87354/ (in bash syntax)
[22:04] <ikonia> Alpert: in the terminal
[22:04] <Alpert> ok
[22:04] <Alpert> I did
[22:04] <Alpert> its a small black screen
[22:05] <ikonia> thats conky
[22:05] <NorthByNorthWest> Lennon: ok! thanks!
[22:05] <soho> somebody here using twinkle?
[22:05] <ikonia> Alpert: it was just a test application to see if your package manager was working fine, which it is
[22:05] <JacaByte> Nobody knows how to trouble sleep mode?
[22:05] <Lennon> np
[22:05] <Alpert> oh
[22:05] <Alpert> sweet
[22:05] <jimcooncat> NorthByNorthWest: Sometimes things like this will be available in the backports repository, but OOo would probably be too big a project for them
[22:05] <djiezes> Some_Person: I'm not sure, but maybe your MBR or partition table is broken?
[22:06] <Some_Person> djiezes: I already tried using TestDisk to fix it, and it seems like nothing is wrong
[22:06] <Saga_> !lvm partition > Saga_
[22:07] <jimcooncat> Some_Person: sometimes the LiveCD fails to detect stuff, you might try an Alternate or Mini installation
[22:07] <Lennon> lol ubottu. nice bot
[22:07] <Alpert> ikonia: I just installed ndisgtk (Windows Wireless Drivers), and it worked. I then typed in ndisgtk and got the error:
[22:07] <djiezes> Some_Person: weird, did you try booting from other live cd's? same problem?
[22:07] <Alpert> Root or sudo privleges required
[22:07] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, it's not there, here's another command that might have it: "lshw" - list hardware
[22:07] <regeya> some day, the spacer applet will be a standard part of kde4
[22:07] <dtcrshr> hi folks, im having an issue on ubuntu, when i sudo something, it takes a while, more than normal, and "could not resolve host ..."
[22:07] <berilio> how do i configure my finder print?
[22:07] <andrewluy> hi!!!
[22:07] <ikonia> use the command gksudo infront ot it
[22:08] <Alpert> ok
[22:08] <jeancalvin> lshw, allsystemsarego, doesn't seeem to have info on my monitors
[22:08] <mdmkolbe> What is a quick and easy way to preview a font under ubuntu?
[22:08] <Some_Person> djiezes: No I haven't. But I need this one working so I can install ubuntu
[22:09] <jeancalvin> lshw output is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/87356/, allsystemsarego
[22:09] <jamesclayden0127> i am having problems with setting up new users, i just get a blank white screen after loging in. it there a tutorial on this?
[22:09] <Alpert> ah
[22:09] <Alpert> it worked
[22:09] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, , ok, try this command: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[22:09] <Some_Person> djiezes: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1192/issueff5.png
[22:09] <djiezes> Some_Person: well yes, but maybe you can prepare a partition with a gparted live cd & then reboot from your ubuntu install cd & see if it can find your partitions that way.
[22:10] <Alpert> ikonia: now that its working, I opened it up. There is a button that says Install New Driver and one that says configure network (I'm trying to install wireless internet)
[22:10] <Lennon> cya
[22:10] <randy3434> anyone willing to help me out with some networking problems?
[22:10] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: http://paste.ubuntu.com/87360/ is cat xorg.conf output
[22:10] <ortsvorsteher> !ask
[22:10] <Alpert> ikonia: now that its working, I opened it up. There is a button that says Install New Driver and one that says configure network (I'm trying to install wireless internet)
[22:11] <Some_Person> djiezes: Partitions are ready. Just need to format and install. This is actually a reinstall attempt at ubuntu
[22:11] <uselessalways> Is anyone familiar with the error in hardy/intrepid regarding being able to burns cds but not dvds? Is there a workaround besides going back to gutsy?
[22:11] <ikonia> Alpert: what do you want me to do
[22:11] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, I see a "Radeon X850XT Platinum"
[22:11] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: that's my video card, yes. but i'm looking for monitors info.
[22:11] <jimcooncat> mdmkolbe: Open Office Writer is easiest way I know to check out installed fonts
[22:12] <Alpert> Ikonia: I dont have my drivers for my Dell Inspiron B130 for wireless, and I need wireless on my laptop
[22:12] <ikonia> Alpert: have you read the documentation on ndiswrapper
[22:12] <ikonia> !ndis | Alpert
[22:12] <mdmkolbe> jimcooncat: it's not installed, it's just a font I downloaded and want to look at to see whether I want to install it
[22:12] <\\`oot> Hi folks
[22:13] <Alpert> ikonia: yes, but I can't get it to work. I can't figure out how to set it up
[22:13] <\\`oot> Anyone here?
[22:13] <kurisutofuaa> Trying to find a walk-through sync my Palm Vx serial through a usb dongle anyone?
[22:13] <ikonia> \\`oot: 1300+ users
[22:13] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, I don't think I can help
[22:13] <\\`oot> I need to mount a Samba share, and it's not working
[22:13] <ikonia> !ndiswrapper
[22:13] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: ok. thank you for your time.
[22:13] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, are you dual-booting?
[22:13] <randy3434> Alright. I can't get online in Ubuntu. I've tried configuring the network settings every which way, and they all LOOK like they're right. I've restarted networking, restarted the computer, and it won't connect. Other computers on the network, both wired and wireless, work just fine. Within Ubuntu, I can connect to the router in firefox, but nothing else. Oddly, XP in VMware connects just fine.
[22:13] <jeancalvin> allsystemsarego: no. just ubuntu 8.10
[22:13] <\\`oot> I can do it from withing (shudder) Vista... but not from Ubuntu
[22:13] <jimcooncat> mdmkolbe: gnome-font-viewer
[22:13] <allsystemsarego> jeancalvin, ok, good luck
[22:13] <\\`oot> can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[22:14] <ikonia> \\`oot: not got smbfs installed ?
[22:14] <\\`oot> it shows up in the Places, and I can keep clicking 'till i see the shares
[22:14] <\\`oot> but when I try and "mount volume" it just keeps acting like I'm getting the credentials wrong
[22:14] <\\`oot> :(
[22:15] <digitalvaldosta> I would like to keep my printer shared on my 8.10 desktop to my 8.04.1 laptop. I had it shared before but now it is not. What happened?
[22:15] <ikonia> \\`oot: is your ubuntu username the same as your windows one ?
[22:15] <\\`oot> no
[22:15] <ikonia> \\`oot: thats the problem then
[22:15] <\\`oot> sadly
[22:15] <\\`oot> it's not a Windows machine, it's a Gentoo (ancient, ancient box) share
[22:15] <joachimATjku> does anybody know how i can execute both commands in a script without one interfering one another?
[22:15] <joachimATjku> arecord -D hw:X,0 -f S16_LE -c2 -r48000  | aplay
[22:15] <joachimATjku> tvtime
[22:16] <\\`oot> ikonia: So what do I do?
[22:16] <ikonia> \\`oot: you have to pass a username argument with the mount command
[22:16] <Alpert> Ikonia: I have a built in wireless card, and ubuntu will not recognize it.  I was told to type this in by documentation: sudo pccardctl ident . Didn't work
[22:16] <Some_Person> Does anyone know why ubuntu installer and GParted can't see my partitions? http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1192/issueff5.png
[22:16] <\\`oot> so I have to do it off the CLI, and not the Ubuntu GUI?
[22:16] <jimcooncat> \\`oot: Places -> Connect to server
[22:17] <ikonia> Alpert: stop saying "didn't" work and explain why/error of the problem
[22:17] <ikonia> Some_Person: your using raid maybe ?
[22:17] <ikonia> Some_Person: you don't have partitions defined ?
[22:17] <Some_Person> ikonia: What is raid?
[22:17] <ikonia> never mind
[22:17] <Alpert> sorry, it said sudo: pccardct1: command not found
[22:17] <Some_Person> ikonia: I do have partitions. Look at the fdisk output
[22:17] <teq23784> Alpert: pccardctl is the wrong method to identify a built-it wireless card
[22:17] <\\`oot> grrr, that didn't work either
[22:17] <ikonia> Alpert: ok, so that software is not installed
[22:18] <\\`oot> is there a better way to see the output of any errors?
[22:18] <\\`oot> rather than "failed to mount share"???
[22:18] <ikonia> \\`oot: syslog or the samba log
[22:18] <teq23784> Alpert: type lspci and put the output on a pastebin
[22:18] <\\`oot> mm... ok
[22:19] <Some_Person> any ideas anyone?
[22:20] <blistov> Some_Person: I suspect a bug in gparted.
[22:20] <blistov> I never trust gnome software :)
[22:20] <digitalvaldosta> :-? Does anyone know how to setup a printer share? I have one shared on my desktop which is 8.10 and i am trying to reconnect to it from my laptop (8.04.1) that I had connected to it from a week ago. I had connected the laptop to the printer via usb once since I had it shared so i assume thats why its not connected via cups anymore. but how can I reconnect it?
[22:20] <Alpert> teq23784: http://pastebin.com/m689b6932
[22:20] <Some_Person> blistov: And the ubuntu installer?
[22:20] <leequarella> Anyone recommend a music player for linux?
[22:21] <leequarella> for mp3s and such
[22:21] <FarmCretin> leequarella:  mplayer usually works for most media files
[22:21] <teq23784> Alpert: the broadcom 4318 card should be supported by ubuntu, you don't need ndiswrapper.
[22:21] <digitalvaldosta> leequarella, rhythmbox
[22:21] <Alpert> hmm
[22:21] <Alpert> well, since I just did an update, should I restart my computer
[22:21] <randy3434> digitalvaldosta: if you go into the system, administration, printing
[22:21] <blistov> Some_Person: ooh right.  sorry my answer doesn't help in that case :)  I've never had a problem with the installer not being able to see my partitions.  I suspect gparted is having a problem parsing some information in your partition table (ie: all the windows parts)
[22:21] <alexandre> alguém do Brasil?
[22:22] <Alpert> teq23784: well, since I just did an update, should I restart my computer
[22:22] <leequarella> are are they for helping with music library organization?
[22:22] <blistov> Some_Person: I have no recommendation other than to get rid of the windows partions and try again.
[22:22] <blistov> Some_Person: sorry.
[22:22] <digitalvaldosta> randy3434, i tried that. I tried clicking connect to server and refresh and it still does not find it.
[22:22] <ngirard> Hi all, I have a plain vanilla 105-key french keyboard. After migrating from 8.04 to 8.10, the "down" key generates a 116 (Multi_key) event. How can I fix this ?
[22:23] <Some_Person> blistov: I have installed many ubuntu systems over the years, all with Windows partitions, and never had this problem. I doubt Windows is the problem.
[22:23] <djiezes> leequarella: amarok is very versatile in that regard
[22:23] <digitalvaldosta> randy3434, for the server, should i put the ip address?
[22:23] <randy3434> couldn't hurt to rty
[22:23] <kevin_405> teq23784,  Broadcom support is very flaky for wifi
[22:23] <randy3434> try
[22:23] <Alpert> teq23784: well, since I just did an update, should I restart my computer
[22:23] <kevin_405> teq23784,  my wifi sometime does not work (with WAP )
[22:23] <teq23784> kevin_405: that's why i don't any broadcom hardware
[22:24] <teq23784> kevin_405: *don't but
[22:24] <teq23784> kevin_405: *don't buy
[22:24] <kevin_405> teq23784,  i am stuck with it..
[22:24] <kevin_405> teq23784, i bought it 2 years back
[22:24] <randy3434> what sort of problem might i have if VMware's virtual installation of XP can connect to the internet, but nothing running 'natively' in Ubuntu? Can someone help me troubleshoot my internet, get it working again?
[22:24] <blistov> Some_Person: is this the first time you've tried 8.10 to a disk with windubs on a few partitions?
[22:24] <_45h_> hi
[22:25] <Some_Person> blistov: No.
[22:25] <teq23784> Alpert: yeah, restart, whatever
[22:25] <Alpert> ok
[22:25] <Some_Person> But first time on this machine
[22:25] <teq23784> gotta go anyway
[22:25] <Alpert> and it should pick it up automatically?
[22:25] <blistov> I've never dug gparted, as its alway been way to basic.  doesn't handle lvms2 or mdadm properly, if at all.
[22:25] <kevin_405> teq23784,  amazing how these guys dont have standards so that generic drivers would work
[22:25] <_45h_> my ubuntu+xen every time crashes into kernel panic with hard filesystem errors. its bug or easter egg?
[22:25] <blistov> Some_Person: tried running gparted manually, from a terminal, to watch for debugging output?
[22:25] <lorenzo> hello
[22:26] <mathias> Goodevening. I'm having a little problem installing Ubuntu on my Macbook through Parallels. Can anyone help me?
[22:26] <Some_Person> blistov: hang on
[22:26] <Some_Person> blistov: it says "Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[22:26] <kevin_405> what should be the permission of home directory ... i screwed it up and wanna fix it
[22:27] <ikonia> kevin_405: 700
[22:27] <ikonia> kevin_405: or 750 - your call
[22:27] <blistov> Some_Person: Your partition record is skewed.  I can not help in this.
[22:28] <Twois10> anyone have the tmobile G1 phone?
[22:28] <Some_Person> blistov: looks ok in fdisk
[22:28] <blistov> fdisk is more lienient.
[22:28] <blistov> ?
[22:28] <r3al> hello guys
[22:28] <dr_willis> Yes - i would say fdisk is more lenient.
[22:28] <kevin_405> ikonia, i changed home directory to "chmod 777 ." and after that i get a warning in ubuntu about home directory permissions
[22:28] <rsteenwyk> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my IBM Thinkpad r60 and hooked up a second LCD monitor, a IBM ThinkVision
[22:28] <blistov> Some_Person: I get that error with a lot of partition tables written by windows.
[22:29] <enzotib> Some_Person, have you tried the verify command in fdisk?
[22:29] <kevin_405> ikonia, will 740 fix it
[22:29] <Some_Person> blistov: even nautilus (the gnome file manager) sees the partitions
[22:29] <blistov> Some_Person: IE: on a couple of my media devices that insist on FAT
[22:29] <ikonia> kevin_405: 700 is pretty tight, 750 is also acceptable
[22:29] <blistov> Some_Person: Nautilus sees the file systems. not the partitions.
[22:29] <Twois10> anyone know of app that encryp storage card on tmobile G1 phone?
[22:29] <r3al> can anyone gimme a help with gnu's wlan drivers?
[22:29] <kevin_405> ikonia,  i have changed to 750 will see on next reboot
[22:29] <kevin_405> ikonia,  thx
[22:29] <rsteenwyk> it set the LCD monitor as the primary monitor, and when I unplug the screen it won't show the Applications/Places/System bar on my laptops display
[22:30] <Ward1983> why can i not use chroot form the liveCD?
[22:30] <digitalvaldosta> :)) I found my issue. (I'm an idiot) I didn't have the power to the printer on. lol.
[22:30] <randy3434> haha
[22:30] <Ward1983> if i try to chroot from the liveCD: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:31] <Ward1983> digitalvaldosta, at least you found it yourself :p some people need to call to the helpdesk for that :p
[22:31] <Some_Person> blistov: How do I use the "verify function"?
[22:32] <digitalvaldosta> yeah, well being an IT professional and forgetful is not a good combo. I tend to forget the simple things like that when working on my own stuff. lol :D
[22:32] <Slart> is there some kind of command I can run to simulate a mouse click.. ie instead of clicking the mouse.. ?
[22:32] <wiehan> If I use: "cp /media/External/backups /home/wiehan/Videos -pvR" will this copy the contents of the source folder and place it in the target OR wil it place the enitre folder within the target like so: /home/wiehan/Videos/backups... I'm unsure
[22:32] <ikonia> wiehan: cp -pvR
[22:32] <kb3ien> where does one get termcap for ubunto thesedays?
[22:33] <blistov> Some_Person: I don't know.  As far as I know, fdisk does a consistency check automatically.
[22:33] <wiehan> ikonia: I'm sorry but that statement isn't very clear... will it place the source folder including its contents within the target or just the contents of the source folder within the target?
[22:34] <LogicalDash> What's the configuration file that makes kernel modules restart whenever the computer comes back from standby?
[22:34] <afallenhope|work> !dvd
[22:34] <johnpaul> hello
[22:34] <onetinsoldier> wiehan: the 'backups' directory will be copied over to /home/wiehan/Videos
[22:34] <rsteenwyk> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my IBM Thinkpad r60 and hooked up a second LCD monitor, a IBM ThinkVision. When I hooked the second screen up it set the LCD monitor as the primary monitor, and when I unplug the screen it won't show the Applications/Places/System bar on my laptops display. How can I make it to Ubuntu sets my laptop screen as the default/primary screen?
[22:34] <kb3ien> !termcap
[22:35] <kb3ien> worth a try.
[22:35] <wiehan> onetinsoldier: ok, how can I prevent that from happening, I just want to copy the contents from the source into the target
[22:35] <Las> what is the difference between SDL and GTK?
[22:36] <Las> i'm trying to figure out which I would want to install, and neither makes any sense to me (windows user) :(
[22:36] <rsteenwyk> I am in my xorg.conf file, but have no idea on what to do from there
[22:36] <dr_willis> Different apps use different things LAS..  some use the SDL libs.. some use the GTK libs.. some could use both
[22:36] <onetinsoldier> wiehan: wiehan, then... cp -vp /media/External/backups/* /home/wiehan/Videos
[22:36] <h4cker> gtk is more customizable Las
[22:36] <LogicalDash> Las: they are different sorts of libraries; SDL provides general graphics routines, GTK provides widgets that you can make windowed interfaces from. I think you should install both, they're pretty small.
[22:36] <BobBlec> anyone use pidgin? I tried upgrading from gaim to pidgin, but it requires that I remove gaim, and removing gaim also requires that both ubuntu-desktop and nautilus-send be removed, and I don' t want to remove those two
[22:37] <wiehan> Las: for what purpose.. this maybe a n00b statement, but SDL is more for graphics within Games, and GTK is an opensource cross platform widget toolkit or something
[22:37] <Las> is one better for games would be the simplest thing
[22:37] <LogicalDash> Las: more games use SDL
[22:37] <Las> cool, thanks
[22:37] <dr_willis> las are you picking one for YOU to use for 'programing' ? or what exactly?
[22:37] <Las> I just want to play freeciv
[22:37] <wiehan> onetinsoldier: Thanks mate, Can I still include the 'R' in cp -vpR /med.....
[22:37] <Las> :)
[22:37] <onetinsoldier> wiehan: no.. do NOT use the R
[22:37] <Las> and there are all these different clients and my google-fu failed me
[22:38] <LogicalDash> Las: In that case it's different, you should probably use the Gtk version unless you have a specific need for the SDL version
[22:38] <dr_willis> las   one client uses th SDL libs then.. other sues the gtk libs..
[22:38] <djiezes> Las: gtk is gnome based, sdl more open platform and oriented to games.
[22:38] <Doonz> hey is it possible to do a straight upgrade from 32bit system to 64 bit?
[22:38] <LogicalDash> Las: because Gtk provides better buttons 'n stuff
[22:38] <dr_willis> Doonz,  No.
[22:38] <wiehan> onetinsoldier: Ok, can you explain why? Then I'll remember it better
[22:38] <Doonz> didnt think so
[22:38] <djiezes> Las, i mean crossplatform ;à
[22:38] <Some_Person> blistov: fdisk says "Total allocated sectors 625153099 greater than the maximum 625142448"
[22:38] <rsteenwyk> Anybody know how I go about changing what monitor is set as primary/secondary?
[22:39] <djiezes> Some_Person: then there's something wrong with your partitions. repartitioning might help ;( or some tools to fix it (?)
[22:39] <\\`oot> HELP... does anyone know Samba well?  I'm lost
[22:39] <Las> ok, guess i'll try both then. I was figuring it was more hardware-dependant, silly me :) thanks
[22:39] <Alpert> ikonia: so, my computer picked up the driver I needed, and I installed it and restarted. Now what do I do so I can get wireless internet to work
[22:39] <dr_willis> rsteenwyk,  for Nvidia/twinview - the nvidia-settings tool had a checkbox for that.
[22:39] <Some_Person> djiezes: i am not starting from scratch
[22:39] <Alpert> not only ikonia, anyone, please help if you can :)
[22:39] <Doonz> ok with running 64bit OS would i see improvement with my software raid set up. BTW im going from a 3.2 xeon with ht and 2gb ram. To TWO 3.6 xeons and 8gb ram
[22:40] <dr_willis> Doonz,  to make proper use of that much ram - use 64bit - yes.
[22:40] <\\`oot> Places >> Connect to Server >> Windows Share (when filled out and submitted) doesn't even make an attempt to connect to the other server!!
[22:40] <djiezes> Some_Person: then search for tools to check and fix your master boot record / partition table
[22:40] <jack_> i have the actual .dbx files from outlook express and i need to get the folders and files imported into evolution.  anyone know how i can convert .dbx files into readable format at least?
[22:40] <dr_willis> Doonz,  as for the 'raid' setup. I doubt if that part will  matter/be affected much
[22:40] <rsteenwyk> dr_willis, this isn't a nvidia box unfortunately, just integrated Intel graphics
[22:40] <dr_willis> rsteenwyk,  no idea then. sorry
[22:40] <precision_> hi
[22:40] <Some_Person> djiezes: I already tried one of them, called "TestDisk"
[22:41] <djiezes> Some_Person: maybe even windows checkdisk and related harddrive things
[22:41] <onetinsoldier> wiehan: R is for recursive, it will start copying with the directory itself. if you just want the files in there and not the directory, then you cannot use the R.
[22:41] <precision_> is this a forum to ask (possibly troubleshooting) questions about linux/ubuntu?
[22:41] <Alpert> if anyone can help, that would be greatly appreciated :) so, my computer picked up the driver I needed, and I installed it and restarted. Now what do I do so I can get wireless internet to work
[22:41] <Some_Person> djiezes: chkdsk in windows never does anything
[22:42] <djiezes> Some_Person: you mean you tried it?
[22:42] <dr_willis> Alpert,  there should be a network manager icon in the panels somewhere you use to select the wireless network/or enter the ssid/info
[22:42] <Some_Person> djiezes: Yes, I did
[22:42] <thornomad> need help with fixing a problem (or filing a bug): when i upgraded from dapper to hardy (server) my NIC card got stuck at 100MB/s -- it won't get to full gigabit mode (even though it is supported and was working in dapper) ,,, I've tried using ethtool to force the speed to 1000 but that just drops the connection and i have to reset ... any ideas ? card is a "Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller" ... not sure what
[22:42] <Alpert> dr_willis: I need help setting that up
[22:42] <jack_> i have the actual .dbx files from outlook express and i need to get the folders and files imported into evolution.  anyone know how i can convert .dbx files into readable format at least?
[22:42] <leequarella> Where can I adjust my system volume?   Currently I need to have my speakers turned al the way up just to be able to hear anything
[22:42] <dr_willis> Alpert,  all  i did to 'set' it up here.. was enter my ssid and password.
[22:43] <Alpert> I dont have a password
[22:43] <Alpert> so I click on the icon, and what option do I choose?
[22:43] <ethernal> who Ethernal
[22:43] <dr_willis> Alpert,  I  am not on gnome and cant walk ya through it.. click or right click on the icon.. it should have some menus and listings of the networks seen, or a way to connect to another network
[22:43] <virgo1143> you are?
[22:43] <djiezes> Some_Person: i know Ultimate  Boot CD has some tools to check & fix mbr and partition tables, you could try that
[22:43] <Alpert> oik
[22:43] <Alpert> thanks
[22:44] <whileimhere> Hi. I have a folder with tons of other folders which may or may not have files in them. Is there a fast way to recursively search each dir for files with the .nes extension and copy them into one flat folder at the same time?
[22:44] <virgo1143> has anyone in here tried super ubuntu?
[22:44] <dr_willis> whileimhere,  creative use of the 'find' command - can do that.. but i dont rember its ussage enouhg to tell you the exact command for it.
[22:45] <whileimhere> dr_willis I have been looking into that but so far I cant get it to work
[22:45] <dr_willis> whileimhere,  i would look for 'find' examples online - theres tons of them out there. I did a similer task ages ago..
[22:46] <Alpert> dr_willis: I filled everything in, but I dont know how to connect to the wireless connection. I'm at manual configuration right now
[22:46] <djiezes> Some_Person: another option might be tools offered by the manufacturerer of the harddrive
[22:46] <dr_willis> Alpert,  im not on gnome so i cant tell you..  it was a 5 sec deal here.. Its possible the drivers are not proplery installed If its not seeing the SSID of your network
[22:46] <dr_willis> !wireless | Alpert
[22:47] <precision_> have you encountered a problem where you couldn't mount the cdrom even though it still autofinds audio cds?
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> whileimhere: i'm not very good with the find command myself, so i don't know that i should be speaking up. but have you tried   find . -name *.nes -print | xrag cp /dest_directory    ?
[22:47] <onetinsoldier> oops
[22:47] <praet> whileimhere: try find thedir/. -name *.nes -exec cp /home/username/target {}
[22:47] <dr_willis> whileimhere,   http://homepage.mac.com/paalb/Examples/find.html   - Last example... is close to what you want
[22:48] <praet> whileimhere: try find thedir/. -name *.nes -exec cp /home/username/target {} \;
[22:48] <praet> oops
[22:48] <praet> lol onetinsoldier
[22:48] <Alpert> dr_willis: I don't know how to get to the interface screen shown in the docs to check hte boc that says Enable this connection
[22:48] <onetinsoldier> whileimhere: sorry, that xarg = xargs   ...but do what praet says! i don't know the find command well at all, so...
[22:48] <dr_willis> Alpert,  no idea.. click, or double click.. or right click...
[22:49] <dr_willis> Alpert,  its also possible the docs are a little out of date and the gui has changed
[22:49] <Alpert> yea : /
[22:50] <ruhaan_jslip> is there an app similar to HFS for ubuntu?
[22:50] <Alpert> I cant get to the screen that says connect to other wireless Network shown here: http://www.pcmech.com/article/how-to-quick-wireless-setup-with-ubuntu-804/
[22:50] <Alpert> I used to see that though
[22:50] <idejmcd> trying to mount a partition, PM to help
[22:50] <Alpert> I think I clicked something by accident like "manual configuration"
[22:51] <ruhaan_jslip> is there an app similar to HFS for ubuntu for serving files
[22:51] <ruhaan_jslip> is there an app similar to HFS for ubuntu for serving files
[22:51] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls -lh" to drop the date & time?
[22:51] <ruhaan_jslip> is there an app similar to HFS for ubuntu for serving files
[22:51] <ASrock> hey, is it possible to install an antivirus program inside linux that can scan a windows partition for viruses?
[22:51] <FloodBot3> ruhaan_jslip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <kurisutofuaa> Trying to find a walk-through to sync my Palm Vx serial through a usb dongle anyone? running 8.10
[22:51] <dtcrshr> hi folks, iv just got a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04. Iv tryed to configure my adsl trough the gui, but it dont work. the box its checked, but i got no connection. So iv gone on pppoeconf on terminal, now i can use the internet for a few minuts, 20 or so, and i have to go pon dsl-provider again to have connection. im not iddle btw
[22:51] <Alpert> dr_willis: do you know how to fix this?
[22:51] <EADG> ASrock: Clamav
[22:52] <ruhaan_jslip>  is there an app similar to HFS for ubuntu for serving files?
[22:53] <usser> ruhaan_jslip, quote from the wesite: "Access your remote files, over the network. It has been successfully tested with Wine under Linux. "
[22:53] <Tiberio> hi, can somebody help with a openoffice trouble on ubuntu hardy?.
[22:53] <ruhaan_jslip> usser: i am looking for something native to ubuntu
[22:53] <ruhaan_jslip> i dont like to run wine
[22:54] <bkhm> Hi
[22:54] <usser> ruhaan_jslip, hm, so hows hfs different from http or ftp servers?
[22:54] <EADG> ruhaan_jslip: look at fsssh, you can mount remote sytems/drives locally. + it's encrypted :)
[22:54] <idejmcd> having trouble mounting a partition, please help
[22:55] <idejmcd> partition is not showing under Computer, needs to be mounted but isn't working well
[22:55] <n8tuser> dtcrshr-> does your pc have a direct connection to your ISP? or it goes through some kind of dsl modem?
[22:55] <Myxb> how do i convert pdf into html/doc/txt (not pdftools or kword, not suitable)?
[22:56] <keres> what syntax is used along with 'mv' to move files within a folder to a destination?
[22:56] <Tiberio> idejmcd: How you are mounting it?
[22:56] <eseven73> cp
[22:56] <usser> keres, files from folder to another folder? mv source/* destination/
[22:56] <idejmcd> tiberio: i tried to create a directory and mount to that, didn't seem to work
[22:56] <usser> keres, moves all the files from source to destination
[22:56] <EADG> keres: mv * /destination/dir
[22:57] <keres> EADG: thanks
[22:57] <n8tuser> idejmcd-> sudo fdisk -l    to see if it is listed
[22:57] <Tiberio> idejmcd: What type of media is?
[22:58] <idejmcd> tiberio: how do you mean? its a partition on my drive
[22:58] <dtcrshr> [n8tuser]: im at my house, i live with some friends, we got an 3com 812 adslrouter on a eth switch
[22:58] <dtcrshr> in front of me i got two cpters on a kvm
[22:58] <Alpert> can someone help me please set up my wireless internet in 8.04?
[22:59] <Tiberio> idejmcd: What kind of filesystem is?
[22:59] <Alpert> http://www.pcmech.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/screenshot2.png . By accident, I pressed manual configuration, and I can't get back to that screen.
[22:59] <dtcrshr> the other its running xp, and the connection its fine, im actually on it to use irc, the drops are giving me nuts
[22:59] <idejmcd> tiberio: fat32
[22:59] <Alpert> and I can't view this either: http://www.pcmech.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/screenshot1.png
[22:59] <Alpert> please query me if you can help :)
[22:59] <Stavros> whenever i try to open vim or htop, they just freeze. what could be wrong?
[23:00] <ikonia> Alpert: why are you showing us that screenshot
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> man, from what ive seen on here, i would think that some manufacturer could sell a ton of wifi cards that say Linux Driver Support... perhaps even Linux Driver Support ONLY
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[23:00] <ikonia> onetinsoldier: intel provide excellent support, as do others.
[23:00] <Tiberio> idejmcd: df
[23:00] <usser> onetinsoldier, well intel should do that
[23:01] <Alpert> ikonia: I can't view that anymore, and I want to get back to being able to
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: yep, thats why most old linux users have nvidia cards :)
[23:01] <ikonia> Alpert: what happens when you try to open it
[23:01] <Tiberio> idejmcd: send me the output of de command: df
[23:01] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls -lh" to drop the date & time? The man isn't very clear with -I PATTERN or --hide.
[23:02] <idejmcd> tiberio: what is the command line?
[23:02] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: you do realize that i said 'wifi' cards...correct? does nvidia make wifi cards?
[23:03] <balrog__> i can only see a black screen with my cursor on it (even when i move the mouse - the mouse moves but the screen doesnt change, type on the keyboard, etc.), and the screen went on a screensaver when the computer was repartitioning one of my drives.  how should i go about getting my screen back to working?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: no, but its an example of when hardware manufacturers support linux well and it gets uptaken well
[23:03] <Alpert> ikonia: I don't see that anymore
[23:03] <Tiberio> idejmcd: Press ALT-F2, type gnome-terminal, and hit ENTER
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: my atheros loves linux, works out of the box with gutsy and up
[23:03] <Alpert> ikonia: all I see is "Wired Connection" and then "Manual Configuration"
[23:03] <ikonia> Alpert: I'm going to stop helping you now, as I've asked you repeatedly to be exact and stop saying "it doesn't work" or "I don't see it"
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: secret is to read the hcl and buy whats compatible rather than whats cheap
[23:04] <other10101> Can anyone here me now???
[23:04] <FAJALOU> hi. i just installed 8.10 and when i boot up, the boot will always freeze at 'detecting network interface'.  I have to hit ctrl alt delete, and then and only then will my computer continue booting.... any help please?
[23:04] <Alpert> ikonia: literally, It's not an option for me to click
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> other10101: wassup?
[23:04] <\\`oot> Hi - is there a separate support group for Wine?
[23:04] <Alpert> It's not listed when I click or right click like it would normally
[23:04] <ikonia> other10101: we can see you typing
[23:04] <ikonia> \\`oot: #winehq
[23:04] <EADG> other10101: Abit.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !wnie | \\'
[23:04] <FAJALOU> \\`oot:  probably #wine
[23:04] <balrog__> \\`oot: it is #winehq
[23:05] <\\`oot> join #winehq
[23:05] <\\`oot> oops
[23:05] <virgo1143> lol
[23:05] <balrog__> ive done that before...
[23:05] <virgo1143> been ages since I've used IRC..I'm going to make heaps of mistakes :P
[23:05] <Tiberio> idejmcd: /dev/sda6 is mounted!
[23:05] <idejmcd> how do i access it?
[23:06] <FAJALOU> hi. i just installed 8.10 and when i boot up, the boot will always freeze at 'detecting network interface'.  I have to hit ctrl alt delete, and then and only then will my computer continue booting.... any help please?
[23:06] <EADG> idejmcd: cd /media/sda6
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> FAJALOU: run dmesg | less and read your kernel logs, you may see errors
[23:06] <idejmcd> eadg: no such file or directory
[23:07] <Tiberio> idejmcd: using a file browser. nautilus by example.
[23:07] <pejp> is here czech?
[23:07] <balrog__> i can only see a black screen with my cursor on it (even when i move the mouse - the mouse moves but the screen doesnt change, type on the keyboard, etc.), and the screen went on a screensaver when the computer was repartitioning one of my drives.  how should i go about getting my screen back to working?
[23:08] <EADG> idejmcd: nav to your /media dir. It will be listed there, perhaps under a diffrent name.
[23:08] <Tiberio> idejmcd: There are many variables, access rights, mount options...
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> !cz | pejp
[23:09] <EADG> idejmcd: My 500Gb external is mounted as sda2 but it's listed in /media as LACIE
[23:09] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: i may have missed something here, but i was inder the impression that FAJALOU is not making it to a command line to check logs and what not.. perhaps mentioned the single-user boot option is called for here?
[23:09] <onetinsoldier> under*
[23:10] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier:  no i can make it to command line.
[23:10] <FAJALOU> i will check there.
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: "and then and only then will my computer continue booting"
[23:10] <Kimimaro> hello
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: if he can boot to anything he can run dmesg
[23:10] <idejmcd> i think i'm gonna have to switch back to windows so i can attempt something, brb
[23:10] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls -lh" to drop the date & time? The man isn't very clear with -I PATTERN or --hide.
[23:10] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: he means 'reboot'
[23:10] <Kimimaro> does anyone know how to convert a dvd9 (double layer) to dvd5 (single layer)?
[23:10] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier:  after i ctrl alt delete over that part, the boot goes fine.
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: you mean it continues to boot into linux?
[23:11] <\\`oot> Why is it that when I extract the contents of a (windows-based) .iso file, Ubuntu puts a " ;1 " at the end of every file name?!
[23:11] <josh> i cant get pidgin to work on ubuntu.  it works for yahoo, but not myspace im.  can anyone help?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot: your nick is really annoying
[23:11] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: Sorry
[23:11] <Kimimaro> does anyone know how to convert a dvd9 (double layer) to dvd5 (single layer)?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:if you mount it you can copy the files out
[23:11] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: you mean that pressing Ctrl+Alt+Delete does not cause the computer to reboot? instead it continues to load linux?
[23:11] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier:  yes after i press ctrl alt delete it sounds like it just kills that bootup
[23:12] <EADG> Kimimaro: dvd95
[23:12] <virgo1143> Pidgin 2.5.2 :")
[23:12] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier: yes
[23:12] <\\`oot> I did that... still all the files have the ;1 at the end
[23:12] <onetinsoldier> oh!
[23:12] <djiezes> Kimimaro: k9copy does that
[23:12] <josh> how do i tell? its ubuntu 8.
[23:12] <EADG> Kimimaro: open Synaptip and do a quick search for dvd9... dvd95 will come up as a conversion program. Install it :)
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:do the files on the disk when its mounted have that on them?
[23:13] <enki> does anyone know whether hardy or intrepid is better for an aspire one?
[23:13] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: Well, it opens fine (the .iso file) under WinXP... and installs and such
[23:13] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: if pressing Ctrl+Alt+Delete causes it to continue to boot into linux, then how come you don't make it to a command line?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:maybe it is using a different codepage for characters
[23:13] <\\`oot> but the files all have a ;1 on them when opened with ArchiveManager
[23:14] <\\`oot> so how do I fix that?
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: never mid that last message of mine
[23:14] <mib_2tidto> hi when I try and run Software Sources program in ubuntu, nothing happens can someone please help me
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: never mind that last message of mine
[23:14] <Kimimaro> i install dvd95 via sudo apt-get i ran it selected english (it defaults to french) and it shut down automaticly with the arror:
[23:14] <onetinsoldier> FAJALOU: i see now...   "i can make it to command line."
[23:14]  * onetinsoldier makes phone to eye doctor
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> josh: do you have the latest pidgin?
[23:14] <\\`oot> whoa, weird
[23:14] <Kimimaro> *** Zero check failed in ifo_read.c:439 for vmgi_mat->zero_6 = 0x0000000f00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[23:14] <\\`oot> other ISOs are fine
[23:14] <\\`oot> just this one I copied over using SSH
[23:14] <etyrnal> anyone know if if Ubuntu 8+ will gon onto a dell dimension 2350 celeron
[23:14] <\\`oot> dangit
[23:15] <etyrnal> go on ^
[23:15] <josh> i am not sure
[23:15] <FAJALOU> onetinsoldier: ya ;)
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:bad iso then, you could extract the files to the xp partition then read them by mounting the partition
[23:15] <tehquickness> I am trying to setup ssh keys so I can use rsync to make a backup to a webserver. The webhost will make public and private keys for ssh. So I would use the private key on my personal computer to connect to the server right?
[23:15] <\\`oot> that would mean yet another reboot... poo
[23:15] <mib_2tidto> hi when I try and run Software Sources program in ubuntu, nothing happens can someone please help me
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> josh: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:16] <\\`oot> the .iso is fine (at least it better not be corrupt)... I copied it from a working .iso file on another box
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:its the curse of dual boot
[23:16] <EADG> Kimimaro: djiezes suggested k9copy. Have a look at that proggy.
[23:16] <\\`oot> *sigh*... ok, thx
[23:16] <keres> onetinsoldier: gtkradiant works perfect on 8.04
[23:16] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: what exactly are you trying to do... what is "run Software Sources program" ?
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot:then recopy
[23:16] <Kimimaro> k9copy crahed trying to do the same disk
[23:16] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: well, this is the LAST reason I have Windows on this machine... after MS Money is copied and working in Wine... I'm done with Windows permanently
[23:16] <zetharx> fstab question: my jump drive is set to mount with options "user,rw,async" and when i boot my computer the drive mounts to the designated dir and the permissions are automatically set to root as the owner.  i have to manually change it if i want to write to the drive.  anyone know what i need to change to fix this?
[23:16] <mib_2tidto> onetinsoldier: System - Admin - Software sources
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot: gnucash?
[23:17] <Kimimaro> its a good copy it plays perfect on dvd players but it wont copy
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> \\'oot: what version of MS Money?
[23:17] <lilsyko> guys, wanna ask a question.
[23:17] <\\`oot> 2k7
[23:17] <\\`oot> what I have...
[23:17] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh. roger. well, that's good at least. i forget, what happened after you successfully compiled it in 8.10 yesterday?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask | lilsyko
[23:17] <phreck> can anyone tell me how to elevate my priveledges so that i can copy and paste within /usr ?
[23:17] <\\`oot> don't tell me it won't work
[23:17] <djiezes> Kimimaro: does it play on your pc?
[23:17] <lilsyko> can ubuntu be made to run in a dual-boot enviroment with XP?
[23:17] <josh> hang on
[23:17] <phreck> there  has to be some way to get temp SU in the gui
[23:17] <SimonTek> phreck,  sudo will let you do so,
[23:18] <allsystemsarego> phreck, gksu nautilus
[23:18] <lilsyko> i know it can but i have tried many times but it doesnt work
[23:18] <phreck> roger
[23:18] <phreck> thanks
[23:18] <SimonTek> ahh missed the gui part
[23:18] <phreck> ive been sudo cp'ing all day lol.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> \\`oot: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=5691&iTestingId=32015
[23:18] <Kimimaro> djiezes, i will install vlc and try, the first time i used ubuntu i ,ade a vow never to use totem
[23:18] <EADG> Kimimaro: I can only suggest K3B... that all I really know for dvd burning, other than mplayer (which you'de have to use from the cli)
[23:18] <phreck> i want gui!
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: ahh, i see. i've always gotten to that in the Synaptic Package Manager options
[23:18] <SimonTek> sudo su is useful too
[23:18] <keres> onetinsoldier: it was missing gtk+ dependancies, ones that you can't possibly change, but are in 8.04.
[23:18] <phreck> yea
[23:18] <zetharx> lilsyko: my understanding is that XP likes to be on the primary partition.  i have a dual boot system and have had no problems getting it to work
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> SimonTek: sudo -i is advised
[23:18] <onetinsoldier> keres: oh yeah, now i remember
[23:18] <lilsyko> hmmm
[23:19] <keres> onetinsoldier: the missing gtk+ files made the change views inopprable.
[23:19] <\\`oot> oooh
[23:19] <lilsyko> so XP on primary and ubuntu on secondart
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> phreck: you can gksudo <gui app yu want admin acces with>
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> keres: cool
[23:19] <lilsyko> *secondary
[23:19] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls -lh" to drop the date & time?
[23:19] <phreck> good to know
[23:19] <lilsyko> let me try that
[23:19] <phreck> never tried it until today
[23:19] <phreck> thanks
[23:19] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: so, what happens that you cannot run the 'Software Sources'?
[23:19] <lilsyko> thanks mates
[23:20] <SimonTek> hmm didn't know the -i, thanks.
[23:20] <SimonTek> read the man pages after you suggested it
[23:21] <onetinsoldier> keres: anyway... you can run it in 8.04 for now so it's all good, correct? you know that probably considered an actual bug in the gtk libs available in 8.10 and you could file a bug report
[23:21] <luc_> salve a tutti
[23:21] <Kimimaro> fyu, trying to back-up "Don't mess with the Zohan"
[23:21] <Kimimaro> fyi*
[23:21] <luc_> potrei rivolgervi una domanda?
[23:22] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: Must be something with the way this SSH file-copy is working...
[23:22] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Why the heck can't I force my network to use MY settings, instead of using DHCP? grrrr..
[23:22] <\\`oot> Is there a way to do a mass-rename and remove the ;1 from the end of every file?
[23:22] <Psi-Jack> I used the nm-applet in Gnome to manually set the network settings, but it's not making the change. Permanent or temporarily.
[23:22] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: Yes
[23:23] <SimonTek> ActionParsnip, even my cert bosses didn't know -i. funny
[23:23] <pqangel> hi
[23:23] <\\`oot> Psi-Jack: OK... open to ideas
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> haha
[23:23] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: You could always use find, to do that.
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> its sudo with interactivity
[23:23] <pqangel> i'm having a big problem with ubuntu, anyone care to help? please? :)
[23:23] <\\`oot> find?
[23:23] <EADG> \\`oot: Install KRename.
[23:23] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: so, what happens that you cannot run the 'Software Sources'?
[23:23] <\\`oot> KRename, OK
[23:23] <Psi-Jack> Yes, find. ;)
[23:23] <\\`oot> one sec
[23:23] <SimonTek> i don't use network-manager. gives too much problems with NIS, or openLDAP
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> SimonTek: i'd just stick to sudo-ing every command so you dont fluff the system
[23:24] <\\`oot> will KRename work in Gnome?
[23:24]  * Kimimaro will try running dvdfab platinum in wine
[23:24] <mib_2tidto> thanks onetinsoldier but it still doesn't work...
[23:24] <atb101010> does anyone have a recommendation for a linux compatible atx mobo? Tried the GA-EX58-UD5 but have not been able to get the Realtek NIC to work with any of the linux drivers including those available on the Realtek site...any similar experiences out there?
[23:24] <EADG> \\`oot: Hmmm, good question.
[23:24] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: No, Linux software isn't portable. You can only run KDE software in KDE, and Gnome stuff in Gnome....
[23:24] <Psi-Jack> LOL
[23:24] <SimonTek> yes I know. but comes in handy when its repeatitive tasks
[23:24] <Psi-Jack> I'm KIDDING.
[23:24] <\\`oot> haha
[23:24] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: _of course_ you can!
[23:24] <\\`oot> I'm new to this, so I wouldn't know if you were joking or not
[23:24] <binskipy2u> hey guys.. can you install ubuntu in virtualbox and update to whatever you want, and remaster it to an ISO on a shared drive on the HOST os (kubuntu 64bit), and then burn it?
[23:25] <SimonTek> i use k3b all the time in xfce, and gnome
[23:25] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: Here's a tip. Linux is Linux is Linux.
[23:25] <\\`oot> OK
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Kimimaro: you tried acidrip / devede / k3b ?
[23:25] <\\`oot> thx
[23:25] <\\`oot> point taken
[23:25] <binskipy2u> i have 64bit, but i want to "build" the perfect ubunt for a friend that has a 32bit machine
[23:25] <binskipy2u> is this possible?
[23:25] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: i need to know what is happening that it's not working.. is it disappearing on you?
[23:25] <adomas> sorry
[23:25] <josh_> i'm having to share ethernet w/ my dads computer
[23:25] <adomas> yes
[23:25] <berilio> binskipy2u, nope u have to have 32 to do so
[23:25] <josh_> i updated and its still not working
[23:25] <adomas> no you can build 32 using 64 machine
[23:26] <binskipy2u> i could just give my buddy mint 6
[23:26] <onetinsoldier> !doesn't work > mib_2tidto
[23:26] <berilio> adomas, i dont believe thats possible
[23:26] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[23:26] <Psi-Jack> Back to my issue. WHY doesn't nm-applet actually work right? ;)
[23:26] <israelito_solito> hello. Im new to Ubuntu and loving it
[23:26] <josh_> so can i just download myspace im again?
[23:26]  * SimonTek at the office with 90% of the workstations running ubuntu
[23:26] <adomas> wubi is created under linux and compiled in linux enviroment, but we have exe executables. so it is very easy to do such thing as compiling debsrc to 32 from 64 env
[23:26] <EADG> binskipy2u: One option is to burn a dvd of Ubuntu Ultimate Edition... my 2 cents.
[23:26] <erUSUL> berilio: it is you just pass -m32 to the compiler
[23:26] <israelito_solito> but the sound in my laptop just died out
[23:26] <binskipy2u> i have that too
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> josh_: make sure you use your email address instead of scrren name for logging in
[23:26] <binskipy2u> i "collect" distros
[23:27] <israelito_solito> help!
[23:27] <Kevin__> Hi Everyone, what system specs (processor, memory) would you need to run Wordpress/MySQL/PHP/Apache?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> josh_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-544996.html
[23:27] <israelito_solito> how can I check the sound?
[23:27] <adomas> Kevin__: and what do you have?
[23:27] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: A 486 SX32 with 128mb RAM
[23:27] <binskipy2u> play a cd?
[23:27] <israelito_solito> no, it doesnt work
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Kevin__: how many users do you anticipate?
[23:27] <israelito_solito> if faded out
[23:27] <israelito_solito> slowly
[23:28] <atb101010> need an atx mobo recommendation that works with linux, please
[23:28] <SimonTek> whats the laptop?
[23:28] <Psi-Jack> atb101010: Pretty much anything.
[23:28] <israelito_solito> Toshiba
[23:28] <SimonTek> atb101010, almost anything these days
[23:28] <Kevin__> adomas and Psi-Jack and ActionParsnip: I intend few concurrent users. I currently have a Pentium 4 w/ 512 Mb RAM and it is REALLY slow
[23:28] <mib_2tidto> onetinsoldier: this is extremely frustrating. First of all, I download a .deb file(easyubuntu) and I double click it to run the installer or whatever. Nothing happens. No error messages, windows or anything at all pops up. ALSO, when i am typing, my mouse randomly clicks and i am not even touching the mouse, this is horribly annoying because if i am typing, and the mouse clicks, the textbox stops working until i click i
[23:28] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[23:28] <josh_> what does it mean by local alias?
[23:28] <\\`oot> crap.... I wasn't able to install MS Money
[23:28] <\\`oot> boo
[23:28] <israelito_solito> how can I know what video card I have installed?
[23:28] <Kevin__> adomas and Psi-Jack and ActionParsnip: It is taking forever to process PHP files
[23:28] <adomas> Kevin__: it is very good system. you will run without problems
[23:29] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: Are you using a PHP Accelerator like Zend Optimizer or eAccelerator?
[23:29] <SimonTek> lspci
[23:29] <adomas> what version of preprocessor?
[23:29] <Kevin__> Psi-Jack: No, but it is running so slow to the point of unusability.
[23:29] <israelito_solito> how can I know what video card I have installed?
[23:29] <SimonTek> lspci will tell the video stuff
[23:29] <EADG> israelito_solito: What SimonTek said... lspci
[23:29] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: Install an optimizer.
[23:29] <israelito_solito> oh, thanks
[23:29] <Psi-Jack> Zend Optimizer, or more preferred, eAccelerator.
[23:29] <keres> is it possible to make an install of ubuntu take up a whole partition after installing it as a dual boot?
[23:29] <mib_2tidto> is ubuntu just buggy onetinsoldier ??
[23:29] <mib_2tidto> and unstable
[23:29] <Kevin__> Psi-Jack: Any recommendations?
[23:29] <FAJALOU> hi. i just installed 8.10 and when i boot up, the boot will always freeze at 'detecting network interface'.  I have to hit ctrl alt delete, and then and only then will my computer continue booting.... any help please?
[23:30] <Psi-Jack> keres: Most every Linux filesystem can growfs, yes.
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> mib_2tidto: use cli to install it: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[23:30] <EADG> israelito_solito: might want to add |less to that command; lspci |less
[23:30] <onetinsoldier> mib_2tidto: i cannot help with the mouse click problem. sounds like maybe you should get that problem fixed first so that it doesn't annoy you and you can communicate and take care of business at the command line with no annoying interruptions
[23:30] <keres> Psi-Jack: growfs?
[23:30] <Psi-Jack> keres: Yes. Enlarge the filesystem. growfs.
[23:30] <atb101010> Psi-Jack: well, apparently I have not been the only one experiencing problems with the Realtek NIC that comes with the Gigabyte GA-EX58, so was offered a refund and want to make sure that the next board I pick will have a better chance of working out...
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> mib_2tidto: its a fine OS, if you want intelligent outputs i'd suggest the CLI
[23:30] <Psi-Jack> keres: gparted lets you do this automagically.
[23:30] <mib_2tidto> ActionParsnip: thank you
[23:30] <[T]ank> Is there a log file anywhere that would show me when and if a network connection looses its connection?
[23:30] <keres> Psi-Jack: thanks. just wanted to know if it was possible/easy ;)
[23:30] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: Look up eAccelerator
[23:31] <mib_2tidto> but i though ubuntu's gui actually worker
[23:31] <adomas> how do I resize root partition when its active? I mean mounted
[23:31] <Kevin__> Psi-Jack: Should I see a large improvement?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> mib_2tidto: if you have issues, focus on one at a time instead of rattling off a list
[23:31] <mib_2tidto> *worked
[23:31] <SimonTek> i just keep about a dozen or so dlink 530TX+ cards around just in case
[23:31] <Psi-Jack> atb101010: Onboard NIC sucks. Get a real PCI NIC.
[23:31] <Spherous> Okay, I went to dual boot windows and ubuntu, I have ubuntu installed, but the windows install disc can't figure out my drive type, so it can't partition part off.  How do I go about doing that manually as a NTFS drive so I can install windows on it?
[23:31] <[T]ank> I am trying to isolate an issue where a program looses connectivity, but the network should still be working
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: i would think it would show up in /ver/log/messages
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> mib_2tidto: start with the most urgent and work down
[23:31] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: i would think it would show up in /var/log/messages
[23:31] <[T]ank> I am adding a /ver directory as we speak.
[23:31] <[T]ank> ;-)
[23:31] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: Initially, no, but once it's caching is started you will.
[23:32] <atb101010> Psi-Jack: which one do you recommend, why is onboard bad?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: some work out of the box, My nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller works out of the box and is onboard
[23:32] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: lol,i suck at typing sometimes, plus i think i need to clean my keyboard!
[23:32] <[T]ank> what would this possibly mean in messages:
[23:32] <[T]ank> Dec 17 07:56:48 flagship-asterisk -- MARK --
[23:32] <[T]ank> Dec 17 08:09:50 flagship-asterisk syslogd 1.5.0#2ubuntu6: restart.
[23:32] <[T]ank> Dec 17 08:36:48 flagship-asterisk -- MARK --
[23:32] <Scunizi> Spherous: if you just installed ubuntu you might consider starting over and install windows first then ubuntu.. it will go much smoother. Windows likes to be first on a dual boot system.
[23:32] <FloodBot3> [T]ank: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <Psi-Jack> atb: Onboard NIC's share your CPU for processing. Aka: they suck CPU cycles to perform network opperations.
[23:32] <Kevin__> Psi-Jack: Thanks for all the help. I'm just trying to get an idea if I need to seek professional help with this server setup... So how long would you think it would take to see caching begin?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> atb101010: if you read the hcl, you will see whats good ;)
[23:32] <adomas> how do I resize root partition when its active? I mean mounted. is it possible? or I should use GParted LiveCD?
[23:32] <chills> hey guys i have a
[23:32] <[T]ank> I have tons of those -- MARK -- lines
[23:32] <[T]ank> and then the restarts
[23:32] <Psi-Jack> Kevin__: One page load.
[23:32] <SimonTek> Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02) is on this machine
[23:32] <SimonTek> works fine
[23:32] <chills> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE/K8N890CE [Chrome 9] (rev 01)
[23:33] <Kevin__> Psi-Jack: Fair enough. :) I'll give it a shot, thanks a ton.
[23:33] <SimonTek> chills, ouch. what you working on a netbook?
[23:33] <Scunizi> Spherous: if you're not going to be playing games on the windows side, consider installing windows in a Virtual Machine like Virtual Box. It will then run "inside" of Ubuntu
[23:33] <chills> i read an howto that says i should use the openchrome drivers
[23:33] <atb101010> ActionParsnip: hcl??? what's that?
[23:33] <SimonTek> reminds me of the hP netbooks
[23:33] <djiezes> adomas: you can't resize a mounted partition, you need a live cd
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> adomas you should not, run livecd instead
[23:33] <Spherous> scunizi, I've had ubuntu installed for a good 3 months, starting over is not an option. I do not want to lose my data, any other way? I mean, I know I can run Virtual Box or VMWare, but I would prefer a dual boot
[23:33] <Psi-Jack> adomas: Yes, Use the LiveCD
[23:33] <chills> SimonTek, nah dualcore
[23:33] <chills> desktop pc
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: unless you are running a dog slow pci and get high bandwidth usage, the cpu load is minimal
[23:33] <scbchoreo> can i ask something@ ALL
[23:33] <Spherous> scunizi, I do plan to be playing games~
[23:33] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Minimal, BUT present, still.
[23:33] <SimonTek> chills, why have that video card?
[23:33] <chills> SimonTek, so it says i need to use the openchorme drivers.. i tried to apt-get em but it says the latest are installed
[23:33] <EADG> adomas: Yes, boot off the Livecd then run GParted.
[23:33] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: definitely sounds like a problem to me.. i take that the 'flagship-asterisk' is your network card driver. mine is 'sky2'
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: oh i agree
[23:33] <chills> SimonTek, came with the pc
[23:33] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: On high-CPU load opperations, it will affect performance.
[23:34] <michal_> My multimedia buttons work sporadically. How should I fix this? The keyboard shortcuts are all set up.
[23:34] <chills> SimonTek, is there any way i can check if iam actually using them ?
[23:34] <K_Dallas> Q: (I hope it is not just too irrelevant of quesiotn in which case I apologize) Would Suprer-Ubuntu be a better start for a total newbie? I mean if I want to install it for a Windows user, would it make life easier for her/him? (bypassing all the extra packages to install for media, etc). Thanks
[23:34] <SimonTek> ahh. i have the newest ones. give me a second
[23:34] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Example: Games using the internet will drop performance dramatically.
[23:34] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: but in the world of dual core cpus pushing 2Ghz+ a core, we'll live for spending money on a NIC
[23:34] <adomas> djiezes, Jack_Sparrow thank you
[23:34] <adomas> and EADG :)
[23:34] <Scunizi> Spherous: sure.. use gparted to make space ... unpartitioned space for windows.. it will discover it.. after install you'll have to fix grub because you won't be able to boot into ubuntu.. windows overwrites the MBR
[23:34] <chills> my xorg.conf says Section "Device"
[23:34] <chills> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[23:34] <chills> 	Driver		"vesa"
[23:34] <[T]ank> onetinsoldier: flagship-asterisk is the computer name
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Spherous If you dont have a backup and cant afford to lose any data..  there is no room for error
[23:34] <chills> shouldnt that be openchrome ?
[23:34] <michal_> My multimedia buttons work sporadically. How should I fix this? The keyboard shortcuts are all set up.
[23:34] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: oh.. i see
[23:34] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: $20 a NIC, not much, really. ;)
[23:34] <quentusrex> How do I mute the sound for only one application? I want to mute Firefox...
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: servers can get ethernet TOEs to take the burden (especially Citrix / SQL) as te traffic is humungoes
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: yeah for about 10Mhz cpu speed?
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: does this problem only surface when playing that game?
[23:35] <K_Dallas> quentusrex, i am not sure but have you looked into about:config
[23:35] <Spherous> Scunizi: Okay, using gparted to make space wont be hard. What do you mean I'll have to fix grub?
[23:35] <SimonTek> http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=25&CatID=2580&SubCatID=164
[23:35] <atb101010> ActionParsnip: what's hcl?
[23:35] <onetinsoldier> !hcl
[23:35] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: It's even worse when the onboard nic's use software DSP. Like the newer Realteks use.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: makes a 2Ghz CPU cost $4000
[23:36] <atb101010> onetinsoldier: thanks
[23:36] <michal_> My multimedia buttons work sporadically. How should I fix this? The keyboard shortcuts are all set up.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | atb101010
[23:36] <onetinsoldier> HCL = Hardware Compatibility List
[23:36] <SimonTek> i had to fix my bosses mini-note 2133 that had via video and ubuntu. drove me up a wall
[23:36] <Scunizi> Spherous: since windows will overwrite the Master Boot Record the grub menu won't show up to boot into ubutnu. You'll have to use the Live CD to fix grub and rewrite the MBR.
[23:36] <\\`oot> I have a Canon i960 printer (USB)... how do I know if it's supported?
[23:36] <atb101010> ActionParsnip: thanks as well
[23:36] <Scunizi> !grub | Spherous
[23:36] <quentusrex> There was suppose to be a way to control the sound by application
[23:36] <michal_> quentusrex: there is.
[23:37] <quentusrex> michal_: how?
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: hello? does this problem only surface when playing that game?
[23:37] <Spherous> Scunizi: Thanks :D
[23:37] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: LinuxPrinting.org
[23:37] <Scunizi> Spherous: np
[23:37] <\\`oot> ok
[23:37] <michal_> amixer set Master {toggle,4096+,4096-}
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> \\`oot: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3342067/How-To-Install-Printer-Canon-Pixma-iP1000-di-Ubuntu
[23:37] <michal_> quentusrex: ^^
[23:37] <Psi-Jack> \\`oot: That will used the BJC-8200 driver.
[23:37] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: doh! never mind..i misread
[23:37]  * SimonTek leaves to fix one of our workstations
[23:37] <michal_> quentusrex: first one's for mute/unmute.
[23:37] <michal_> Second's for louder. Third's for softer.
[23:38] <michal_> Change 4096 to a greater or less value for finer granularity.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> \\`oot: just don't sudo gedit, its gksudo gedit
[23:38] <michal_> But the problem is that my buttons don't work.
[23:38] <Psi-Jack> Okay, screw this.. What does Ubuntu's sysv-init use to activate the network devices? I need to do manual surgery.
[23:38] <michal_> But sometimes they do.
[23:38] <michal_> I don't know how to fix it.
[23:38] <uselessalways> Why gksudo instead of sudo?
[23:38] <quentusrex> michal_: I'm trying to only mute firefox.
[23:38] <Psi-Jack> nm-applet fails to work, and I want static non-DHCP-assigned IP.
[23:38] <michal_> quentusrex: ahh, thought you were answering my question.
[23:38] <michal_> Don't know.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:39] <bazz> since upgrading to intrepid, my thinkpad t61p hangs every so often with just the numlock led flashing.  i'm pretty sure it's something to do with the wireless since it never seems to happen if i'm on a wired network.  so two questions: 1) is this a known problem and is there a workaround and 2) is there anything i can do to try and track down what's really causing this and help fix it?
[23:39] <eseven73> !gksudo
[23:39] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Useless when it still used DHCP.
[23:39] <israelito_solito> thanks
[23:39] <Jacobbs> !grub
[23:39] <scbchoreo> hello @ ALL ..... anyone who can teach me how to install wine
[23:39] <keres> what does -avz do in this syntax: http://pastebin.com/m790c8e3f
[23:39] <michal_> My multimedia buttons work sporadically. How should I fix this? The keyboard shortcuts are all set up.
[23:39] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: OK... whoa, lots to process
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> scbchoreo sudo apt-get install wine   froma termina;
[23:40] <keres> scbchoreo: Applications->add/remove programs-> search 'wine' (it is the first one with 5 stars)
[23:40] <scbchoreo> ah ok
[23:40] <[T]ank> Spherous: who are you
[23:40] <keres> scbchoreo: you might want to change the dropdown-arrow in the add/remove programs dialog to 'all programs'
[23:40] <scbchoreo> thanks a lot
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[23:40] <keres> scbchoreo: no problem!
[23:40] <keres> ;)
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: you can specify network settings there
[23:40] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Okay, what's /etc/NetworkManager for?
[23:40] <keres> ActionParsnip: what is gksudo?
[23:41] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: That site you gave me, it's not even in English!
[23:41] <funkyHat> quentusrex: you can control the sound by application using pavucontrol, but it doesn't qutie work 'per application' a the moment, i.e. everything by flash has one stream as far as I know
[23:41] <michal_> My multimedia buttons work sporadically. How should I fix this? The keyboard shortcuts are all set up.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> keres: its used for graphical apps like gedit, it sets up the environment properly, sudo doesnt do that
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> \\`oot: dont be so ignorant, the command for the terminal are in english
[23:42] <Spherous> Scunizi: Odd, gparted won't let me resize and add unpartitioned space
[23:42] <keres> ActionParsnip: so for something that uses 3d themes, or just graphical interfaces in general?
[23:42] <keres> ActionParsnip: debugging a 3d game, etc...?
[23:42] <\\`oot> ActionParsnip: Not ignorance... just hard to figure out what they're doing...
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> keres: just outside of the terminal
[23:42] <Scunizi> Spherous: what file system are you using?
[23:42] <Jack_Sparrow> ActionParsnip Take the tone down a notch please
[23:42] <Spherous> Scunizi: I can turn my Swap off, then mess with that, but I don't feel safe messing with swap lol
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Jack_Sparrow: np man
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[23:43] <linuxman410> does anyone know why a kvm switch will not work with ubuntu
[23:43] <Spherous> Scunizi: What do you mean what filesystem am I using?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> keres: like apt-get doesnt launch anything outside the terminal, gedit will launch the gui app, gedit so gksudo is needed
[23:43] <Scunizi> Spherous: swap probably isn't large enough for windows anyway.. another solution is to drop another drive into the machine
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxman410 mine does.. belkin 4 port
[23:43] <templaedhel> so I have a laptop, but when I close the lid it doesn't work. however "xset dpms force off" ran in the terminal works fine. so I'm trying to figure out how to modify lid.sh to work with that. any ideas
[23:43] <keres> ActionParsnip: gotcha
[23:43] <Scunizi> Spherous: the type of file system ext3, reiserFS or whatever might not like to be resized.
[23:44] <Spherous> Scunizi: I have spare drives, but shitty IDE ones that wont suffice with my SATA pc lol
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxman410 FYI it is usb key and mouse enabled..
[23:44] <Scunizi> Spherous: they will work though..
[23:44] <EADG> quentusrex: Awsome question... don't know a quick/easy solution though. I searched Google... there is a plugin called Flashblock that may help you out abit. Other than that I have no idea.
[23:44] <linuxman410> i have a zonet 2 port and when i use it both computers go to 640x480 and i can not change
[23:44] <Spherous> Scunizi: So, why won't it let me create new unpartitioned space?
[23:44] <Spherous> Scunizi: nah, no IDE cables lol
[23:44] <quentusrex> EADG: I'm playing a flash game that doesn't have a built in mute button...
[23:44] <keres> ActionParsnip: can you tell me what -avz does in a syntax?
[23:45] <keres> you don't have to go real in depth
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> keres: depends on the command?
[23:45] <linuxman410> mine is a ps2 switch
[23:45] <Scunizi> Spherous: I have no idea.. maybe someone else will answer that one.. wish you were close, I've got bunches of cables.  check with your local geek. They probably have one for you for nothing.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> \\`oot: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=1199&sort=8&cat=myprod&page=1
[23:45] <[T]ank> Spherous: are you in utah?
[23:46] <Jack_Sparrow> linuxman410 I have used several PS2 and all worked
[23:46] <EADG> quentusrex: I can see how that would be anoying. Hit Google and Ubuntu Forums.
[23:46] <keres> ActionParsnip: 'sudo rsync -avz --delete rsync://satgnu.net/quake2world quake2world'
[23:46] <Spherous> [T]ank: No, Illinois, but I don't even have an IDE cable slot on my motherboard, lol it would be pointless to get one.  Not that I don't have them in my house, my other 3 pcs have only IDE and no sata...
[23:46] <linuxman410> i must have bad switch then
[23:46] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: hello you still here?
[23:46] <[T]ank> yep
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> keres: man rsync
[23:47] <keres> ActionParsnip: man?
[23:47] <[T]ank> Spherous: wondered cuz thats the name of a company I work for
[23:47] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !info man | keres
[23:47] <satsu> I am getting an grub error 18 when I try to boot after I lost power to my ubuntu lamp server.  I am trying to repair grub using ubuntu live CD but i cannot mount the hard drive or run fsck against it.  How can I solve this problem?
[23:47] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: you might try #ubuntu-kernel channel and see what they say
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> keres: its the manual page, EVERY command has one
[23:47] <[T]ank> about the log file for network activity?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> keres: even man man  :D
[23:47] <keres> lol
[23:47] <keres> ok
[23:48] <scbchoreo> hey... what is the best LINUX for old PC ...( pentium 2 >>> 533MHz)
[23:48] <fakereality> Hi, guys. I have a problem with firefox and flash (I install the nonfree adobe flash player). But the flash stuff in firefox doesn't seem to show even after the install.
[23:48] <Spherous> Okay, new question.  Who here can help me with gparted? it doesn't want to create unpartitioned space.  I can turn off my swap, but I can't unmount my filesystem drive, which is understandable, I'm booted onto it...
[23:48] <EADG> when in doubt use apropos {search term} for a command/program
[23:48] <satsu> I am guessing either the MBR or partition tables were messed up.  Any ideas?
[23:48] <scbchoreo> hey... what is the best LINUX for old PC ...( pentium 2 >>> 533MHz)
[23:48] <[T]ank> Spherous: use the live cd
[23:49] <dtcrshr> how i manage to my internet connection stay alive? i have to constantly go pon dsl-provider through terminal to have access...
[23:49] <Wickk> scbchoreo: Puppy linux imo
[23:49] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: i don't know that i see anything in there baout you network, but yes.. tell tham the problem and the messages you are getting(tons of them), and what's with your syslog restarting?
[23:49] <Jack_Sparrow> scbchoreo there is a minimal install or xubuntu, for info on other releases, please google it and avoid taking polls in the channel
[23:49] <Spherous> [T]ank: Will that create unpartitioned space that windows install cd can recognize?
[23:49] <l337ingDisorder> is it possible to mount a drive using command line without editing fstab?
[23:49] <EADG> scbchoreo: Puppy & DSL (Dam Small Linux)
[23:49] <scbchoreo> but puppy linux is a live cd right
[23:49] <l337ingDisorder> correction, to mount a network share
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> scbchoreo: xubuntu, puppy, dmansmalllinux
[23:49] <nachohi88> hi, i got a question... How can i update my grub so the old kernel doesn´t shows there?
[23:49] <scbchoreo> xubuntu?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !xubntu | scbchoreo
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> l337ingDisorder yes
[23:50] <mrfelton> Hi
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !info xubuntu | scbchoreo
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> oh ffs
[23:50] <l337ingDisorder> nachohi88: edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[23:50] <scbchoreo> ah ok
[23:50] <fakereality> Hi, guys. I have a problem with firefox and flash (I install the nonfree adobe flash player). But the flash stuff in firefox doesn't seem to show even after the install. Sorry for the second msg but I'm in hurry : ) SO, pls help me..
[23:50] <l337ingDisorder> Jack_Sparrow: how? :)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> scbchoreo: its a super lightweight version of ubuntu
[23:50] <EADG> nachohi88: edit your grub.lst. # out the entry for the old kernal.
[23:50] <scbchoreo> so whats is best thing i can do
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> scbchoreo: using xfce instead of gnome
[23:50] <onetinsoldier> [T]ank: ok. course, i only saw three lines from your /var/log/messages, so for all i know you do have messages in there concerning you networking
[23:50] <scbchoreo> ah tnx @ ACTION
[23:50] <djiezes> nachohi88: there's an option in your menu.lst file in /boot/grub/ called "default", change that to 1 and you'll only see one kernel option ever, even after kernel updates
[23:51] <l337ingDisorder> fakereality: You won't be able to get it working tonight.
[23:51] <FFighter> hey guys
[23:51] <Saga_> Right now -- I currently have Ubuntu 8.10 full-disk encrypted LVM on the laptop. However, I'm trying to resize the HDD as to create free spaces for a new LVM + Cryptsetup + LUKS encrypted partition that I'd be able to access.  Should I be installing Ubuntu on regular LVM then from there, to resize the LV to...20G then create the new VG + LV for encrypted partition? Lot of partitions surely got me confused.  Please advise.  Thanks.
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> l337ingDisorder Here is example of one.. sudo mkdir /media/BLAH-drive then sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/BLAH-drive substitute your drive for sda1
[23:51] <AutoMatriX> is there a utility that can send the header of an e-mail to a mobile phone via SMS ?
[23:51] <FFighter> I desperately need a software that allows me to take pics with my webcam,
[23:51] <mrfelton> I've just installed firestarter because I'm convinced that sombody is using my network somehow. Today my internet connection speed has dropped from its normal of about 7000kb/s right down to about 175kb/s
[23:51] <FFighter> any ideas?
[23:51] <AutoMatriX> FFighter, try motion
[23:51] <l337ingDisorder> fakereality: the flashplugin-nonfree package points to a broken link on the adobe site
[23:51] <djiezes> nachohi88: oops, belay that, option is called "howmany"
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: check your router to see its dhcp clients
[23:52] <l337ingDisorder> Jack_Sparrow: Yeah sorry, I actually meant mount a network share not a disk
[23:52] <Scunizi> FFighter: cheese
[23:52] <EADG> Anybody know what option to use with "ls" to drop the date & time?
[23:52] <FFighter> AutoMatriX, Scunizi thanks
[23:52] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, yes, I have a MAC address filter on my router, and have removed everything except my own laptop for now
[23:52] <djiezes> EADG: i'm not sure, check man pages
[23:53] <mrfelton> so I installed firestarter, and told it to block everything I don't need... I'm getting a lot of connections to random ports originating from my own machine
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: do you use wpa / wep?
[23:53] <fakereality> l337ingDisorder: where can I find an older (working) version? thanks for the quick response
[23:53] <AutoMatriX> FFighter, good luck ;) it's a powerfull program, too powerfull forme, for the moment :D
[23:53] <mrfelton> I have no idea what they are... how acn I find out?
[23:53] <loca|host> hello all
[23:53] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, no.. just a MAC filter
[23:53] <satsu> fsck running from the live cd yields the following error ... "attempting to read block resulted in a short read while trying to open /dev/sda1"  Any ideas how can I repair the drive so that I can mount it or boot from it again?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: when you connect wirelessly do yuo need a password of any kind?
[23:53] <loca|host> i have a 4GB RAM Xeon Desktop PC
[23:53] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, no. no password
[23:53] <fakereality> loca|host: welcome
[23:53] <EADG> djiezes: Did. nothing specific other than (Ignore) -I PATTERN & --hide=PATTERN... makes no scense to me.
[23:53] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, but I thought the MAC filter would mean I don't need to bother with passwords
[23:54] <Scunizi> !ask | loca|host
[23:54] <loca|host> normal ubuntu 8.10 instal shows only 3gigs, is the anything to do to get all my 4gigs up ? just like the bigmem kernel in Debian ?
[23:54] <loca|host> Scunizi, :) i was just typing my question dude
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: mac can be spoofed, id have it as well as wep / wpa
[23:54] <l337ingDisorder> fakereality: I'm not sure.. I'd definitely like to know though!
[23:54] <djiezes> EADG: there's tons of options, i don't get it just enter "man ls"
[23:54] <Scunizi> loca|host: you running 64 bit or 32 bit OS?  32 bit will only show 3+ gigs no more.. that's the limitation of 32bit
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: you could also hide you ssid too for extra security
[23:55] <Scunizi> loca|host: same with windows.
[23:55] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, ok, I'll do that... but it still doesn't explain all these connections originating from my machine
[23:55] <keres> !fstab
[23:55] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, hide my ssid... good idea
[23:55] <tanath> argh. i can't log into X
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> mrfelton: try rebooting your router, maybe you hit your download cap
[23:55] <loca|host> Scunizi, Xeon CPUs are 64b ready plateforms, i get my 4gigs using Debian's bigmem kernel, so what's the equivalent on Ubuntu
[23:56] <EADG> djiezes: Hehe, ya, read throught the man pages a number of times... no concrete option for dropping date/time stamp though. I'm stumped.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what happens when you startx
[23:56] <mrfelton> ActionParsnip, I don't have a cap. And I have restarted the router several times
[23:56] <tanath> when the login screen comes up, i immediately get an 'authentication failed' error, and can't access the text box.
[23:56] <mrfelton> it certainly does feel like a cap has been imposed
[23:56] <Scunizi> loca|host: I don't know.. I'll leave that for someone else..
[23:56] <mrfelton> I just can't get more than 10k... consistantly
[23:56] <tanath> ActionParsnip: er, it doesn't
[23:56] <tanath> ActionParsnip: not sure why.
[23:56] <mrfelton> but I have an unlimited broadband service
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> tanath: no, what messages do you get
[23:56] <tanath> ActionParsnip: it appears to, but vt7 is still blank
[23:56] <tanath> ActionParsnip: got no error
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> tanath: check system logs to see whats what
[23:57] <Zarcom> hello
[23:57] <scbchoreo> hello i have another problem.. i install ZENWALK to my OLD PC and its run  good but the problem is my machine tells " NO SOUND CARD DEVICE" .... so what should i do?
[23:57] <Scunizi> mrfelton: your isp might be limiting bandwidth if you're running P2P software.. they don't like to admit they do but it happens.
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> hi Zarcom
[23:57] <Zarcom> I love this OS, this is great :D
[23:57] <onetinsoldier> !welcome
[23:57] <DatDude> Can anyone tell me if Ubuntu 8.10 is being offered under GNU GPL and if so which version
[23:57] <Zarcom> I have a couple of questions
[23:57] <mrfelton> Scunizi, well I've been downloading a shit load from UseNext
[23:58] <Zarcom> I have 8.10.02 something, it should not matter
[23:58] <mrfelton> but that isn't really p2p I don't think
[23:58] <tanath> ActionParsnip: is 'no profile for user [me] found' in .xsession-errors significant?
[23:58] <keres> will lines 7 and 8 of http://pastebin.com/m1b268ad0 (my fstab) mount my secondary HDD without format or errors?
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[23:58] <EADG> djiezes: I live in cli; screen, irssi, htop, rtorrent, cplay, elinks, etc. I can't figure this one out... should be easy, I'm missing something somewhere I guess.
[23:58] <schone> is there an easy way to open a file from with a .JAR file, edit it and save it?
[23:58] <mrfelton> I have probably downloaded some 60-70 gigs in the past couple of weeks.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> scbchoreo: this is ubuntu support, not zenwalk
[23:59] <ruhaan_jslip_> is there any tool similar to HFS for sharing files for ubuntu
[23:59] <ruhaan_jslip_> is there any tool similar to HFS for sharing files for ubuntu
[23:59] <tanath> ActionParsnip: another thing is, it's supposed to autologin after a few seconds. it doesn't
[23:59] <djiezes> EADG: well, in that case you prob know more than me, can't help you
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> tanath: can you make a new user and log on as that user instead?
[23:59] <Scunizi> DatDude: yes.. GPL which version I don't know.. I think vs. 2 but you can look for it here. http://www.ubuntu.com/
[23:59] <tanath> ActionParsnip: the 'authentication failed' error comes up immediately though